The Story

On 24th June 2010 (Thursday), I got a call from someone calling himself raymond. He told me that he is so interested with the Laptops that i advertised in Mudah.com. To make it looks real, he asking me if he can trade in his friend's Toshiba L510. I m asking for the spec, and after some hrs, he send me the full spec. I told him that i take it RM1,200 and he need to top up RM13,200 considering each of my 3 laptops selling at RM4,800. After some negotiation, i agree to reduce RM200, make it RM13,000 top up. He said that was cool and straightaway tell me that he gonna check his bank account whether he can make it that day (24th June 2010) or not. After sometimes, he sms saying that he got not enough cash and ask me if i can wait until 28th June 2010 (Monday) because he said thats was his payday. I said, okay.. i will wait.

On 28th June 2010, i sms him if we can deal today as he said b4, he straightaway call me and said he got his pay by cheque and need 2 days to be cleared. Maybe on Wednesday, it will be clear and he said he will contact me back later on Wednesday. I said OK.

On 29th June 2010, he call me when i m at office, saying that his friend decide to not to trade in his Toshiba, and he will pay full amount. I guess its was a good news for me. So i said, No Problem. He said, tomorrow he will contact me again to confirm time n place. He said maybe at lunch time, 1.30pm. Again, i m OK with it.

On 30th June 2010, early in the morning around 8am, he call me to confirm the time. 1.30pm at his apartment at Bandar Puteri Puchong. He gave me the full address and ask me to come to his house. I said to him, that i might come after 1.30pm then, since i m working n got something to settle 1st including fixing my car and posting the 16gb 3gs to jhlee_0722 which he had paid today and expect to send before 3pm as i promise him. Right at 1.30pm, he call me said that he already at home and waiting for me. I said, i will be there 1hr later, but he said he need to be back at office by 2.30pm. I guess, i have no choice but to settle deal with him 1st, considering that I might still have a time later to go Pos Laju to send the phone.

Raymond keep call me asking if i could reach his house in time, at last i arrive at his apartment area at 1408. Direct call him, and meet him at the parking area. Average guy, definitely chinese, wearing shorts and blue t-shirt (eh, u said rushing to go back to office, but u wearing shorts?). I say sorry to him for my late. He said ok, even help me carrying one of the laptop and take me to his house. His apartment is a ground floor. He even tell me that he hope i will don't mind to come into his house because he said he has a dog but then the dog was pent up in a cage. Then i said nevermind.

He lock off his house padlock, and ask me to come in. Entering his house, nice and clean house i must say. Tv was open. I sat down at the couch right in front of the TV, and start to open each laptop for checking purpose while he lock up the sliding door padlock. Upon checking, i found that the laptop out of batt and i pull out the charger from its packaging to charge it so that we can test. He said its ok, i can open another one, because he dont want the real package of charger been open. I said OK. I open another one which is still in sealed. Unfortunately, that unit also need to be charge. Then, he said OK la. I trust u, furthermore the laptop is sealed. At the moment, i said how come he dont want to check? This is 14K plus deal. Hmm. nvm la, maybe he really urgent to get back to office. After that, we talk about the price again, and he ask to nego some more, from RM14,400. I said RM14,200, then he ask me RM14,100, he said he doesnt want to nego until 14K, simply because i already had trouble coming all my way to his apartment. Then i said OK lah..

After that, he bring all the laptops to one of the room, and ask me to wait because he need some time to prepare the money. I m understand because i myself will do the same if in his situation. It is RM14K money  . Before entering his room with all the laptops, he telling me that i can turn the tv to the other channel if i insist, and after a while, he ask me whether i want some drink, i m asking for plain water. After handed me a glass of water, again he ask me to wait for him to prepare the money.

After 15 minutes waiting (isnt that long? but trust me, i really have no doubt of him because it was his house. He has the house key!!), he smsed me, the SMS that i will never ever forget, the SMS i will never ever delete from my phone..


"KEY AT TV, HOUSE NOT US, SORRY"

Straightaway i see the key on the tv rack, going to the room, its locked... i calling his name, silence.. i go get the house key, open the padlock, and i saw from the outside of the room, the grill has been open, the window has been open, there is a chair outside and inside the room. I was stunned for 2-3 minutes.. i go back inside the house, checking other rooms, but all the rooms was locked. The dog in the cage have some weird looks on me. I went out from the house, lock up the sliding door and grill, fasten to the guard house. I m asking whether they have see the guy (i describe the guy to them) drove out from the apartment, they said they never notice. All residents coming in, going out, so they really didnt notice. I ask them whether i can have the details of the house owner. I told to the management and security head what was happen, and they called the owner, single chinese girl (call her Alice). Alice was then come back home from office. She is working 8-6.

Alice arrive and the story is, Raymond was one of her room renter. He rent the room, paying 2 months rent (Mei and June), but never going in. 2 week before, he came to Alice office to get the house key, Alice did ask for his IC Copy, but then he manage to not giving what Alice want by so many excuses, telling that he will give her that night when he moving in to the room. Alice said, she got no choice but to give him the key and was weird because he never move in that night as what he said. She keep calling Raymond, but Raymond said he was so busy outstation, meeting client (claiming to Alice that he is an insurance agent), so he cannot pick up call. Alice don't bother because he seems like a good person, met her with his gf and the point is, he already pay her the rent. Alice was so kind, later she going to police station nearby with me for making report. She herself need to buy new sets of padlock because Raymond might be back again. The only details i got was his hp number. And Alice got his another number. For sure, both number cannot be reach. I m not going to expose the number, because i m pretty sure he will never use the number back. If happen i manage to get thru the number, i will expose it here later. I m so lucky actually that nothing from the house was stolen, Raymond just using the house trick me. If not, i maybe in trouble too.

If you can see, he start all this from renting the room from Alice. He need a ground unit, for sure a room with windows so easy for him to get out, he was so smart to make it like he is not so urgent on buying, he told he need to wait until his payday.. whatsoever.. what for? he dont have to prepare the money, he just lose around 7xx to pay Alice, but looks what he got. He was successful. Talking on the phone like he was so professional, never forget to say thanks in the end of each sms/call conversation, what can i say, he was so smart. TBH, i never ever expect that i got to be cheat. But God have show me that we all need to always thanks HIM. This is HIS test to me and i guess i really need to face it. Life must go on.

The Lesson To Me and You :
1) Never ever pass the stuff before money in hand, even if you are in his house.
2) Bring someone with you.
3) Dont simply be tricked to a smart guy.
4) ...... You can list down yours.

The Lesson To Alice :
1) YOu got the money, you dont have his details, you give him your
house key?? 
2) List down yours

hats off to you bro...this will definitely be very useful....thanks

U are awesome!!! Thanks for all ur hard work on this WANTED LIST.
Keep it up bro!!! GAMBATEH!!!

This topic should appear and duplicated in every lowyat.net sales thread as a sticky, with the title "PLEASE CHECK THESE ACCOUNT NUMBERS BEFORE YOU PROCEED WITH PURCHASING" (or something like that).

good thread, thank you very much

You are welcome.. btw, how ur case going?

dear Apis,
u should be promote as moderator.
guys please vote for Apis
thank you

dear Apis,
u should be promote as moderator.
guys please vote for Apis
thank you

second this
at least he is doin somethin
not like those tat got their tags n any helpful help?

Support you 100%. Good post.

+1

Agree.. Please add beckylove aka kelly2bee into ur list...

he FP looks messy 

i suggest apis use this format ..


this will make a very good reading .. btw, good job 

Wow Apis nice thread! thanks for your work here.
perhaps in the future you are going to add this fella into the list as well?

Intune ---> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=1457

Real Name: Habib Abdul Rashid

Maybank account number:164801034639 MAYBANK

Tel: 017 - 274 1701

Wow, thanks a lot! You really made lowyat.net a better and safer forum. Keep it up, and keep it updated. 

Apis seorang yang rajin dan berdedikasi
papa pround of you
thank you

aaaa Boh nama aku skali boleh dak.. nak letak gak nama aku kat situ. heheh

great work! this is like CODIS in CSI lol..
next time shopping.. i'll triple check this list.. 

Apis, put all their phone numbers on the front page if you found any. 

Its still less then 2 weeks. plus she doenst online since 23rd sept. Who knows she might gettin into trouble. give her 2-3 days, else, i will include their details here. Plz remind me later. Thanks ya.

hello... her last online was 1st Oct.. i am pretty sure she has seen my thread as I had alert her in her every thread & even pm her!! Still... no news from her... Mobile still off when i try to call / sms her... Maybe u should also list down kelly2bee since they share the same contact number, maybank account number yet register their DOB differently. One at 1975 & the other at 1982.

So, still not any respond from her? I m sorry because last time i check was 23rd sept.. not 1st october.

true, her last online time when i alert u was 23rd Sept. This Oct 1st is when she has got my msgs & pm but dun bother to reply or refund..

okay, i will put her name and acc here too. Thanks.