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> Scammer : laialstein, iPhone 4 16g. Lost Rm1k

alwinc
post Jan 30 2012, 02:08 AM, updated 8y ago

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!!! READ THIS NOTICE FIRST. IMPORTANT RULES !!!!
!!! 1) laialstein LYN PROFILE : Here
!!! 2) He closed his thread

Contact Number used: 012-5610348

Public Bank Account: 4548163308
under name TAN WOOI MING

Forumer you are complaining against: laialstein

Item being sold/bought: iPhone 4 16GB

Original thread link: He Closed

Date of transaction: 14 NOV 2011

Details of the complaint :

14-11-2011
- He offered to sell Digi Iphone 4 that he bought from Online Digi Store
- He named himself as Mr.Lai from Kampar, Perak so not able to cod with me at PJ
- asked me to bank in rm1k to his public account as deposit then he will ship the item to me and i will pay remaining balance when i received the item.
- he even sent me the proof of receipt of the iphone purchase from digi online store via email
- i was convinced and cash deposited rm1k to his public account
- after that, he sent me a fake poslaju tracking number which is not working

Attached below is the screenshots he sent tried to convince me.
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15-11-2011
- i never received any parcel from him
- called his phone number but it was already turned off and directed to voice mailbox

By the time i got to know that i has been conned and never thought of report this as i accepted it as a lesson and my misfortune that encountered this scammer

but until recently, when i noticed that he is still active in the forum and has been asking him for refund. But what is really frustrating is he tried to threaten me! Our PMs as attached below :

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I will squeeze time to report this scam case to the police by this week even though it was late.


To Guys out there, please learn the lesson so wont fall into scammer's traps anymore.

Also, to the Moderators : In case i lose my lowyat.net account one day, i hope this this post can be a proof for me to retrieve it back.

This post has been edited by alwinc: Jan 30 2012, 05:40 PM
asamkipas
post Jan 30 2012, 06:07 AM

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What the "scammer" said is true

Malaysian police is stupid n useless..my uncle who works in the Police also confirms that these online scam cases reported to them normally just become a mere statistic rather than a case to be taken highly of and be solved.

Thats why so many scammer are not caught..

If they can trace blogger or those who do/say bad things against the government..why cant they put the same effort to hunt these scammers as well ? Simply because it doesn't hurt their pocket so they don't bother at all

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Regardless of the rant above..what I may suggest you is to contact SKMM / CyberSecurity / Public Bank / Your Bank account and notify
them of your case and what can you do to protect your confidential details that you have enclosed to the scammer

Though it may seem that what this scammer is just trying to scare you off from taking any further actions, his words about
wanting to misuse your details also cannot be taken lightly as there are so many case of 3rd party scam involving the owner of the victim account without them knowing anything.

I've helped lots of people to make police report and none of them are fruitful nor am I be contacted by them informing on what are the updates of the case that I've reported before
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post Jan 30 2012, 09:42 AM

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GO REPORT NO matter what the con man say .

if he/they really is expert hacker . i dont think they will come lyn here to con 1k .

the reason maybe he want to make u fell pointsless report to police .

go report even we know our police is useless .

and alway do cod with new member .

This post has been edited by nagflar: Jan 30 2012, 09:56 AM
WhatMan
post Jan 30 2012, 09:51 AM

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He is bullshitting you on hacking bank account.

They simply use that nick to con you.

The hacking is a red herring to make you look the other way.

Just go on report to police.

This post has been edited by WhatMan: Jan 30 2012, 09:58 AM
Apis_LuaLua
post Jan 30 2012, 11:10 AM

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Details added in the blacklist. BTW, alwinc.. plz reply my PM. tq
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Jan 30 2012, 09:51 AM)
He is bullshitting you on hacking bank account.

They simply use that nick to con you.

The hacking is a red herring to make you look the other way.

Just go on report to police.
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yup agree.just track the acc holder n report police
cky6667
post Jan 30 2012, 01:22 PM

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U bought iPhone 4 16gb for rm1900??
Hunakadoo
post Jan 30 2012, 01:53 PM

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But i will assume u made a mistake while making deal online .

Never bank in to seller like paying deposit first , balance pay upon item received .

Just imagine If you were the seller , u also will worried while ur item reached buyer hand and he/she denied to admit the item he/she already receive , in the end he/she refuse bank in balance to you , and u have to suffer the loss .


Added on January 30, 2012, 2:02 pm
QUOTE(asamkipas @ Jan 30 2012, 06:07 AM)
What the "scammer" said is true

Malaysian police is stupid n useless..my uncle who works in the Police also confirms that these online scam cases reported to them normally just become a mere statistic rather than a case to be taken highly of and be solved.

Thats why so many scammer are not caught..

If they can trace blogger or those who do/say bad things against the government..why cant they put the same effort to hunt these scammers as well ? Simply because it doesn't hurt their pocket so they don't bother at all

=================

Regardless of the rant above..what I may suggest you is to contact SKMM / CyberSecurity / Public Bank / Your Bank account and notify
them of your case and what can you do to protect your confidential details that you have enclosed to the scammer

Though it may seem that what this scammer is just trying to scare you off from taking any further actions, his words about
wanting to misuse your details also cannot be taken lightly as there are so many case of 3rd party scam involving the owner of the victim account without them knowing anything.

I've helped lots of people to make police report and none of them are fruitful nor am I be contacted by them informing on what are the updates of the case that I've reported before
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Just like what i said above , you can't really say Malaysia police is stupid and useless .
They only can take actions if there's PROOF and EVIDENCE .
Even Con-man has caught by police also ,
1 . he can just say that he do courier the things to buyer already , and push everythings to courier service .
2 . he can say that he isnt the account holder of LYN , somebody has hacked his account and cheat people .

Samethings if terbalik the situation , u do courier the item to buyer already , but buyer said didnt receive at all and report polis , polis come your house and catch u back police station makan curry rice for few days and sue u to the court , and u go in jail .

This post has been edited by Hunakadoo: Jan 30 2012, 02:03 PM
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post Jan 31 2012, 12:26 AM

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u have his bank account - good enough. report police and hope the 'international scammer' will get caught. if he was so great, he would be working in some government/spy/hacker or whatsoever with his skills.

if all else fails..get his house address,name, and bring along some parangs to chop off his bodies, part by part.

sorry for your loss.
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post Apr 10 2012, 06:48 AM

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Remove because he has provided proof he is not a scammer BUT I still keep all the info in a place. @Apis_lualua, if you need me to post the info again, I will do so.

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post Apr 10 2012, 08:16 AM

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Many thanks. Details updated.

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LAI AL STEIN | TAN WOOI MING
[ laialstein | IchigoX | BeatsFan ]
MBB : 152031561193
PBB : 4548163308
PICS : LAI AL STEIN | TAN WOOI MING
H/P No : 0125610348 | 0165474083 | 0185844523 | 0164210880 | 0164210348

LINK


This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Apr 12 2012, 02:54 PM
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post Apr 10 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 10 2012, 06:48 AM)
Hi there, I think I may have info for this "laialstein" guy. I remember it was back then in high school that online gaming was hot. I met this guy by the name of "laialstein" and I have him on Facebook too.

BUT I cannot be very sure it is him.

<<removed - RBR 26/9/14. Refer https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3347560>>

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Nice INFO you got there. Keep it up!!! icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(XxHawksxX @ Apr 10 2012, 09:45 AM)
Nice INFO you got there. Keep it up!!!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Actually I didn't know about this thread... I was googling "Poslaju.com.my fake or real" then I saw this thread "laialstein"; immediately it caught my attention. Anyways, I really really hope TS can get back his money now since we have all the valid details + pictures of iPhone transaction with DiGi (Albert Lai - 016 421 0880)
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post Apr 11 2012, 12:20 AM

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lol SMK sultan badlishah, that was my high school...form 1-form 6 upper..2001-2007..


Added on April 11, 2012, 12:21 am
QUOTE(imranzero @ Apr 11 2012, 12:20 AM)
lol SMK sultan badlishah, that was my high school...form 1-form 6 upper..2001-2007..
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plus, i a bit of know him..was my junior in pengakap..@,@

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post Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM

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Hi guys..I want to clarify the case above..I am the previous owner of that account laialstein. I am the real person Lai Al Stein but my lowyat/hotmail account was hacked when I online at cyber cafe..I forgot to log out and someone use my account for scamming after I left..I don't know how this scam case going on but I had just settle a previous scam case of a external hard disk last month..I thought all the scam cases had been solved and I did not notice this is still going on..can u give me some time to solve this? We are innocent victims in this scam case..First time I encounter this matter due to my carelessness..For other person who deal with me before, for sure they know I'm not a scammer..
Alwinc, can u contact me personally in facebook? I added u..I will figure out how to solve this case..

my badlishah pengakap senior, I hope you understand how this situation going..I am not a scammer who come to lowyat and cheat other people money..I just dont want I got an unnecessary bad reputation outside..

This post has been edited by IchigoX: Apr 15 2012, 02:32 AM
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post Apr 11 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(IchigoX @ Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM)
Hi guys..I want to clarify the case above..I am the previous owner of that account laialstein. I am the real person Lai Al Stein but my lowyat/hotmail account was hacked when I online at cyber cafe..I forgot to log out and someone use my account for scamming after I left..I manage to catch the person who use my account..He is one of our cyber cafe friend we used to play online game together and he owed us money..He used my account to scam and pay the debt and I didnt know that..I don't know how this scam case going on but I had just settle a previous scam case of a external hard disk last month..I thought all the scam cases had been solved and I did not notice this is still going on..can u give me some time to solve this? We are innocent victims in this scam case..First time I encounter this matter due to my carelessness..For other person who deal with me before, for sure they know I'm not a scammer..
Alwinc, can u contact me personally in facebook? I added u..I will figure out how to solve this case..

my badlishah pengakap senior, I hope you understand how this situation going..I am not a scammer who come to lowyat and cheat other people money..I just dont want I got an unnecessary bad reputation outside..
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talk to the police. bring along " one of our cyber cafe friend we used to play online game together and he owed us money"
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post Apr 11 2012, 10:12 AM

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I had sent replies to Alwinc's facebook and I will figure out how to solve this case..I will responsible for this scam case..

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post Apr 11 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Apr 10 2012, 06:48 AM)
Hi there, I think I may have info for this "laialstein" guy. I remember it was back then in high school that online gaming was hot. I met this guy by the name of "laialstein" and I have him on Facebook too.

BUT I cannot be very sure it is him.

<<removed RBR 26/9/14>>
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GREAT CSI !!! ..
dont stop fight ur own right TS !!! ..
we will support u ..

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QUOTE(IchigoX @ Apr 11 2012, 10:12 AM)
I had sent replies to Alwinc's facebook and I will figure out how to solve this case..I will responsible for this scam case..
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Surely u gonna responsible for this as u are dupe of laialstein.. and u got DISPUTE TAG. Nice to see u here after all details exposed. rolleyes.gif
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