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> JUANBILL aka -EvasoN- aka muitao Strikes Back!, This Time at Mudah.my

Apis_LuaLua
post Nov 22 2010, 01:47 AM, updated 7y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: -EvasoN- aka JUANBILL aka muitao aka James Ong (from FB email jamesong888@hotmail.com but already change to his other identity, DANIEL YAP, also friend of Raguvaran Kamalakkana as well) aka ONG CHIN CHUAN

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His Details :
ONG CHIN CHUAN
IC Number : 810611-08-5205
Maybank Account - 108319061061
HP number is :
0165423743
0103818278
016-5106880 (ACTIVE & Registered under CHIA PAU YOUNG ; 860330-52-6292 ; 200 KAMPONG BARU BUKIT MERAH 31500 LAHAT), 016-6903449 (NEW, ACTIVE & Registered Under ONG CHIN CHUAN), 016-6910413 (NEW, ACTIVE & Registered Under ONG CHIN CHUAN)

Several Potential Address :

19, Laluan Pakatan Jaya, Taman Pakatan Jaya, Ipoh
NO 1 DATARAN TASEK TIMUR 21 TAMAN MUJUR 31400 PERAK (Address Registered With ONG CHIN CHUAN MOBILE PHONE NUMBERS)
200 KAMPONG BARU BUKIT MERAH 31500 LAHAT
8 Medan Tambun Ipoh 31400 Ipoh


Item being sold/bought: Ipod 32gb

Original thread link: None, Case happen on Mudah.my, but found that the scammer has an account in LYN too (-EvasoN- & JUANBILL)

Date of transaction: 18th November 2010 (YES, ITS JUST 21st AND ITS SUNDAY, But then, the way he react show that he intent to Cheat)

Details of the complaint : Someone who dont want his details to be expose has PM me. Read the case below attached from my PM Box

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Hi Apis...,

I think I've been conned via mudah.com but hush hush first ya. I do not want to post this openly because I know it's my fault.

I hope you will add this person to your warning list...but please leave my nick alone and just mentioned "MR.Z" ya. Or bagitau 'kawan' ke apa ke...ya...?

OK, the story started last Monday. I was looking for an ipod touch 4g 32gb. I saw one via Mudah (the f***er has deleted the ad!). He was selling it at RM900 second hand. Reason for sale - he already got iphone 4 from maxis. He bought the ipod in October.

After negotiating, he agreed to settle for RM850 plus shipping to my place KK Sabah. I was so convinced because I managed to get him via Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100...100001829869588 (he now removed me from his friend's list)

The guy's name in Facebook is James Ong, his chinese name is ONG CHIN CHUAN with Maybank account 108319061061 and hp number is 0165423743

I did check the account number through your warning thread but not listed. I didn't type in his name though. Somehow, now IF I type in his name, it leads to your warning thread. Just that I couldn't find it anywhere from page 1 to 8. Tak jumpa pun bro...

I transferred RM850 (aduiiiii...gaji bulan Oktober ni bro...) into his account last Thursday around 7pm. He said he posted the ipod yesterday (Friday) during his lunch. At first he gave me 10-digit poslaju EN4178846240MY. I said Poslaju doesn't have 10-digit. Only 9-digit. Then he sms me EN417884624MY.

I went to Poslaju Office today to check but the code was not in record. I texted him asking BUT he didn't reply although my sms was delivered.

You know bro...? I should've seen it coming. I never trusted Mudah.com but for the past two weeks I managed to buy things from Mudah. That's why I got the nerve to buy his ipod.

The advertisement at Mudah was using a different name begins with Ong too. When I asked why different names, he said that the Mudah account is belong to his brother sebab Mudah needs to verify IC and pay money to register to sell items. I believed him! Adui bodohnya aku...!!!!!!!!

I really fell for his trick when I asked for his FB account, he straight away gave me. At first he gave John Ong...then he said typo error...James Ong yang betul!!!

When I go through his FB details, ramai kawan...dan ramai yang say "thanks for add". Aku rasa dia yang create semua akaun tu dan tempel gambar siapa2.

Bro, what should I do? Please help. He said he's from Ipoh....and can COD in Ipoh. AKu ada kawan di Kuala Kangsar...tapi tak dapat tolong COD.

Please help bro....dan please inform other members taktik penipuan via Facebook tu. Trick yang shows banyak FB friends tiba2 post kat wall user tu - 'thanks for add'. Terlalu ramai yg post kat wall dia saying 'thanks for add'. Dan one more thing - friend's list user tu banyak yg guna nama samaran. Tak ramai yg nama manusia lengkap...huhuhuhuhu!

I will wait until Monday...mana tau ada miracle happens tiba2 ipod tu sampai...walaupun aku rasa that will not happen. There goes my RM850  

Ni first time aku kena conned bro  

I hope you could help me. Kalau tak dapat cari conman tu pun, at least aku dapat idea apa nak buat....

Sakit hati duit lesap...tapi I have to think positively. Kena ada experience...baru nak waspada. Aku dah cukup careful bro...tapi terkena jugak! Ni semua gara2 tamak nak yang murah. Isnin ni kalau tak ada jugak..., terpaksa la beli brand new from Apple Store...huhuhuhuhu!

Bro, what should I do? Nak report polis pun aku rasa tak guna. Cuma mungkin laporan polis tu boleh bawa ke Maybank to investigate the account holder?


As you can read, the sale took place in mudah.my. After i got this pm asking for my help, i straightly try to investigate. After some investigation, i found that this person (James Ong) got many sales thread at hahasales.com mostly on Apple stuffs (by googling his phone number - 0165423743). And to my surprise, the phone number applied to one of LYN Thread Sales too. The forumer name is -EvasoN- and if u click to his sale thread, u cannot find his phone number already. So, here it is

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From the link, u can clearly see JUANBILL claim thats he bought one from -EvasoN-. So, you may ask what the relation between -EvasoN- and JUANBILL, but i just feel so curious about it. I have decide to check on JUANBILL who previously so famous with the Zntrax81 PS3 cases. (You can read it HERE). I decide to check on his profile on that thread but found out that Zntrax81 already removed his details since case already settled.

Then, i just checked on the Pos Laju Slip Pic provided there and found out thats his details is RAGUVARAN KAMALAKKANA from Tambun, Ipoh. So, i was like, eh, maybe i am wrong here since victim said the account holder name (Scammer) is Chinese (ONG CHIN CHUAN), not indian. Then, i just try RAGUVARAN KAMALAKKANA at FB, and to my surprise, yes, there is his FB Account with exactly his name.

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Details of RAGUVARAN KAMALAKKANA :
RAGUVARAN A/L KAMALAKKANAN
910304086767
NO 22 JALAN SRI WANGSA 8,
TAMAN SRI WANGSA,
31000 BATU GAJAH,
PERAK DARUL RIDZUAN.
016-5143444

Other Address Retrieved from Zntrax81 Thread :
Raguvaran a/l Kamalakkana
8 Medan Tambun Ipoh 31400 Ipoh.. just opposite Pantai Hospital Ipoh
HP - 0165053353
Bank account - 158118159094 Maybank


There are 2 different addresses, me an Zntrax81 believe the latter address is actually belong to JUANBILL.

And to make it even surprise, see his fren list below, they even same school, ANDERSON IPOH.

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If u feel like 'is it true that JUANBILL is not an Indian, is it true that he is actually chinese?', below is the proofs

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Afterall, ppl at Zntrax81 Against JUANBILL Dispute Case (LINK) was actually been fooled by JUANBILL thinking that he is INDIAN. tongue.gif

After some other googling.. i found this

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This guy above buying Iphone 4 from this scammer via Lelong.com.myand looks, this time it was A BOX OF CANDLES, so it has been confirmed that he was intentionally send an empty box with mineral water bottle to Zntrax81 last time.

And to make it even clear, looks at his Lelong Nick, its juanongcc. To my assumption, it is :

juan = JUANBILL
ongcc = ONG CHIN CHUAN


And to my surprise, the victim also has an account here, he is Andyshan007 and he already reported here after i sms him. (retrieved his number from Lelong.com.my)

You can see this THREAD open up by -EvasoN- pretend to ask what to do regarding his so called gf have been cheated at mudah.my, perhaps i guess the reason he was open up that thread is just to survey what will be the consequence if he cheat via mudah.my before he actually proceed to con the victim.

So, i guess JUANBILL and -EvasoN- really has 'connection' after all. I have handed all this information and details to the victim for police report, but then i m asking him to wait until JUANBILL respond.

To JUANBILL aka -EvasoN-, Post the so called IPOD, or REFUND victim. U know who you cheated. We all expect you to repent from Zntrax81 case, but you are not. And plz dont send A BOX OF MINERAL WATER BOTTLE OR A BOX OF CANDLES (eh, ur dad own grocery shop huh? sweat.gif) again, this will not work anymore. Remember, PISANG TAK BERBUAH DUA KALI.

This post has been edited by Apis_LuaLua: Aug 16 2011, 05:06 PM
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:10 AM

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Look what do we have here! Good find, Apis rclxms.gif

Guess that his photo has been revealed, that guy can't hide anymore thumbup.gif


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kalau ada alamat untuk dua2 scammer ni, just give it to me since i'm staying in ipoh too~

and if can, i'll go to the anderson school asking for their details or whatsoever~

p/s: apis, kalau boleh, besarkan lagi gmbr diorang tu icon_rolleyes.gif

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The one with the Playstation 3 case? Meh. He should feel darn stress after see this thread, after all, there's a case against him in the past.

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post Nov 22 2010, 08:17 AM

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shocking.gif shocking.gif this guy really nv learn

ps3 case now ipod damn freaking Bastard

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post Nov 22 2010, 08:56 AM

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Good job, Apis..
Now we have new detective here... rclxms.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 09:18 AM

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let try play some miss call on all the numbers we have hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Good job there apis thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(skypie @ Nov 22 2010, 09:18 AM)
let try play some miss call on all the numbers we have  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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How hard do you think for him to read the forum and update himself whats being discussed here. He'll be alerted if you discuss here.

Correct?
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Nov 22 2010, 10:37 AM)
How hard do you think for him to read the forum and update himself whats being discussed here. He'll be alerted if you discuss here.

Correct?
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not hard but well i have alot of free time and i just go a head and have some 1 miss call fun later today
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the victim has sms him threatening to make a police report with all the details we got here, n this is what he reply.

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Interesting. Ya bro i think u better go make police report. Let they go catch Ong Chin Chuan or juanbill or evason or raguvaran as pos by ur friend. Poor Ong chin chuan. Good luck bro. Those acc i use only cost me like 300 each. And i think ong chin chuan already in jail or pusat serenti now. Good luck again


You choose hard way, then we play hard way. Just wait ONG CHIN CHUAN.

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so apparently Ong Chin Chuan or juanbill or evason or raguvaran aka conman is not going to give a sheet about it?

nice well lets go make something out of it
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i have just got more related information.

Check here http://www.lelong.com.my/apple-i-phone-4-1...CI_enMY391MY391

His nick name is juanongcc, and he has cheated the person that win the bid there, andyshan who then make report and complain at

http://www.carilubang.com/redirect.php?tid...3&goto=lastpost

And

http://cforum5.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=2121268

this time, instead of box of mineral water bottles, he send a box of candles rolleyes.gif his phone number this time is 0103818278

And if u guys notice, he is DIGI LOYAL USER biggrin.gif

If someone can provide service to track this DiGi number, plz come up. PM me.

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http://www.lelong.com.my/apple-i-phone-4-1...10-11-Std-P.htm
i was cheat by this seller.
19 november 2010 morning i use maybank2u bank transfer RM2090 to his account 108319061061 Ong Chin Chuan
(Name is same with lelong provide)
on 20november 2010 morning i go to seremban skynet take the items . after i open it. that is candle .it is not iphone 4,
Means that i was cheated by seller .
i do the complaint to lelong admin already!
now wait them give me more ong chin chuan personal etail.
then go to report Police!
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QUOTE(andyshan007 @ Nov 22 2010, 02:06 PM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/apple-i-phone-4-1...10-11-Std-P.htm
i was cheat by this seller.
19 november 2010 morning i use maybank2u bank transfer RM2090 to his account 108319061061 Ong Chin Chuan
(Name is same with lelong provide)
on 20november 2010 morning i go to seremban skynet take the items . after i open it. that is candle .it is not iphone 4,
Means that i was cheated by seller .
i do the complaint to lelong admin already!
now wait them give me more ong chin chuan personal etail.
then go to report Police!
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I see.. so u actually have account here.. good to see u respond here.
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Nov 22 2010, 02:07 PM)
I see.. so u actually have account here.. good to see u respond here.
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but i think the handset no both is offline!!
0165423743...
i get the information from police friend say this kind of case in malaysia got alot!!!
but cannot catch them too.
cause it is individual case . not many case for same cheater. even i call bank. bank say the cheater is their customer also.
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QUOTE(andyshan007 @ Nov 22 2010, 02:14 PM)
but i think the handset no both is offline!!
0165423743...
i get the information from police friend say this kind of case in malaysia got alot!!!
but cannot catch them too.
cause it is individual case . not many case for same cheater. even i call bank. bank say the cheater is their customer also.
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yes, but plz no give up. Zntrax81 has successfully got his refund.. and you sure dont want this scammer enjoying your hard earned cash. do u?
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QUOTE(andyshan007 @ Nov 22 2010, 02:14 PM)
but i think the handset no both is offline!!
0165423743...
i get the information from police friend say this kind of case in malaysia got alot!!!
but cannot catch them too.
cause it is individual case . not many case for same cheater. even i call bank. bank say the cheater is their customer also.
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police ar

individual case
not many case for same cheater

cwh case so many victims
till now no news no updates no nothin
how much would it constitutes
more than a few millions or billions?
its just excuse for them not to do any work

bank wont provide any details unless wit police reports or a search warrant or wat

tis is a sad world we live in
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Nov 22 2010, 02:15 PM)
yes, but plz no give up. Zntrax81 has successfully got his refund.. and you sure dont want this scammer enjoying your hard earned cash. do u?
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Yes of cos i do.
i want my money back.
hope all people can help me!!!
once i get the cheater address on ic .
i will post here too. to make sure the address online and ic is same or not.
if u are in ipoh. please help me to vertified this cheater!!!.

Any way thanks all the person who can help !!!!
thank you
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JUANBILL is a Chinese? I thought u alredi repent..x serik2 shakehead.gif muda2 da jadi conmen

I think this is the work of two people
These type of person should be locked up in jail.....bukti sudah ada ...apa lagi brows.gif

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