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vyzc
post Aug 30 2010, 11:20 PM, updated 10y ago

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Item being bought: 1x iPhone 3GS 32GB (Black)

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1469322&hl=

Date of transaction: 28/06/10

Amount of money involved: RM400

Details of the complaint (in chronological order):

1. Seller opened a preorder/bulk for the iPhone 3GS. 16GB and 32GB versions at RM1,400 and RM1,500, respectively.

2. A deposit of RM400 was required to secure an order (for both 16GB and 32GB versions)

3. I placed a deposit of RM400 for 1x iPhone 3GS 32GB (Black)

4. Seller stated that the ETA is at the end of July 2010.

5. When asked for his name and contact number, the seller was reluctant to give those details.

6. Towards the end of July 2010, I asked the seller if the phone is ready to be collected.

7. Seller claims that he is in the US and will only be able to perform a COD transaction in the middle of August 2010.

8. At the same time, the seller provided a picture of the stock:

http://i27.tinypic.com/4uw291.jpg

9. Seller asked if I wanted to have the item sent via courier to Malaysia. I declined.

10. I requested for the serial number and IMEI of my phone. Seller dodged the question.

11. I asked the seller why he refused to provide the serial number and IMEI of the phone that I'll be receiving and requested for more pictures of the stock.

12. Again, the seller dodged the question. He maintains that he is still in the US and gave some lame excuses, saying that Internet access is expensive and "hard to get".

13. Seller even questioned me, saying that I'm the only one who has been asking so many questions.

14. I told him that it's my right as a buyer to ask.

15. Seller hasn't been online since 03/08/10 (as of 30/08/10, 11:10PM). His profile: http://forum.lowyat.net/user/342597.

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My Comments

I do not have the seller's name and contact number. However, from the bank account number that he provided, I discovered that the bank account is registered under the name of a company. I proceeded to purchase more information regarding this company from the Companies Commission of Malaysia / Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia. Details below:

Company Details

Company Name: Iconic Management Sdn. Bhd.

Company Number: 875516-H

Bank Account Number: HSBC 383618618101

Registered Address: 5B-1, Persiaran Greentown 5, Pusat Perdagangan Greentown, Ipoh, 30450, Perak.

Nature of Business: "RESTAURANT, DEAL IN FOOD, GENERAL TRADERS"

Directors/Officers:

1. Chew Bee Chuan (Director) - 851007-08-5808
2. Lee Poh Sim (Director) - 860922-38-6422
3. Noor Ariah Binti Maaris (Secretary) - 730914-01-5482

Shareholders/Members:

1. Lee Poh Sim - 5,025 shares - 860922-38-6422
2. Chew Bee Chuan - 5,025 shares - 851007-08-5808
3. Liang Tiancheng - 25,025 shares - G18362014
4. Luo Ci De - 125,025 shares - G16305374

Now, how should I go about tracking the c*nt who conned me of my RM400? I know I should have gotten his name and contact number prior to the transaction. Could it be the person holding the most shares?

Should I proceed to make a police report?

Please advise .

This post has been edited by vyzc: Aug 31 2010, 12:28 AM
pirateguy
post Aug 31 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(vyzc @ Aug 30 2010, 11:20 PM)
5. When asked for his name and contact number, the seller was reluctant to give those details.
Amazing, I really want to say you deserved it because you simply dump your money to an UNKNOWN seller.




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post Aug 31 2010, 12:02 AM

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just lodge a police report..
easier to search all the detail all of them when u got the police report..

vyzc
post Aug 31 2010, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Aug 31 2010, 12:00 AM)
Amazing, I really want to say you deserved it because you simply dump your money to an UNKNOWN seller.
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Yeah, and amazingly, I really want to say thank you for your rather "constructive" comment.






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post Aug 31 2010, 12:56 AM

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Good luck in your chase. Btw, i m interested to know more regarding your purchase of information from SSM. I never know that it can be done.. or u have 'special' way? tongue.gif
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Aug 31 2010, 12:56 AM)
Good luck in your chase. Btw, i m interested to know more regarding your purchase of information from SSM. I never know that it can be done.. or u have 'special' way?  tongue.gif
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It's legal. All you need is RM15.

http://www.ssm-einfo.my/
PulseAngel
post Aug 31 2010, 05:51 PM

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that picture, probably iphone look-alike, yesterday saw at BTS, almost the same box if look from above, except for the iphone detail under the box dont have
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post Aug 31 2010, 08:12 PM

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have u make any contact to the company yet?. maybe u can ask them about the transaction u made.
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post Aug 31 2010, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(PulseAngel @ Aug 31 2010, 05:51 PM)
that picture, probably iphone look-alike, yesterday saw at BTS, almost the same box if look from above, except for the iphone detail under the box dont have
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Hah, the dreaded "ChiPhone" ("China iPhone") !


QUOTE(figure8 @ Aug 31 2010, 08:12 PM)
have u make any contact to the company yet?. maybe u can ask them about the transaction u made.
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Based on the information that I have, there isn't any contact number given.

I can find the company's number through TM, though it may not be of much help because this company may turn out to be a "fake" one, being used as a front for scamming purposes.

Anyway thanks smile.gif

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post Aug 31 2010, 10:45 PM

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U already have the Registered address. Y don't u just go to that address and find it out?
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QUOTE(vyzc @ Aug 31 2010, 10:25 AM)
It's legal. All you need is RM15.

http://www.ssm-einfo.my/
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Thanks. Good info.. at least for me. Gudluck in your case mate.
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post Sep 1 2010, 11:25 AM

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i thought there are more buyers in his thread dat banked in RM400... when he 1st started the thread many advise was given that its too good to be true.. moreover he requested rm400 1st before u guys even get to see what u guys are getting in reality... but seems alot not bothering and bank in rm400 to him... are u the only one not getting the phone or the rest also the same... check his thread with those members dat seem to bank in to him.. see if they reali get the phone or not...
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post Sep 1 2010, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(A_One @ Sep 1 2010, 11:25 AM)
i thought there are more buyers in his thread dat banked in RM400... when he 1st started the thread many advise was given that its too good to be true.. moreover he requested rm400 1st before u guys even get to see what u guys are getting in reality... but seems alot not bothering and bank in rm400 to him... are u the only one not getting the phone or the rest also the same... check his thread with those members dat seem to bank in to him.. see if they reali get the phone or not...
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Yes, there are many others who banked in their money to the seller and I've already contacted some of them. None have received their item. It's up to them to come in here and let their voices be heard.

Before more trolls come in, I would like to make it CLEAR that I was aware of the risks of banking in the cash to the seller. Moreover, the price is too good to be true.

I was already expecting this seller to turn out to be a scammer. I was willing to take a risk and lose RM400.

The reason I'm posting this complaint here is to bring the seller down, if possible.
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(my_zYen @ Aug 31 2010, 12:02 AM)
just lodge a police report..
easier to search all the detail all of them when u got the police report..
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I second this. Just lodge a police report as soon as possible, from that it should be easier to continue to gather more information/evidence. Just IN CASE the seller proven to be genuine (by any miracle), no harm is done.

You can also PM one of the Staff/Admin to check the seller's IP address. Should be useful in investigation.
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post Sep 1 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(my_zYen @ Aug 31 2010, 12:02 AM)
just lodge a police report..
easier to search all the detail all of them when u got the police report..
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QUOTE(PetomJL @ Sep 1 2010, 01:14 PM)
I second this. Just lodge a police report as soon as possible, from that it should be easier to continue to gather more information/evidence. Just IN CASE the seller proven to be genuine (by any miracle), no harm is done.

You can also PM one of the Staff/Admin to check the seller's IP address. Should be useful in investigation.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated.
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post Sep 1 2010, 03:37 PM

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with the police report...
u can go to hsbc and ask detail about the acc...sure bank will help u if got the report..
if lucky enough..can ask the bank to freeze their bank acc...
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post Sep 1 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(vyzc @ Sep 1 2010, 12:38 PM)
Yes, there are many others who banked in their money to the seller and I've already contacted some of them. None have received their item. It's up to them to come in here and let their voices be heard.

Before more trolls come in, I would like to make it CLEAR that I was aware of the risks of banking in the cash to the seller. Moreover, the price is too good to be true.

I was already expecting this seller to turn out to be a scammer. I was willing to take a risk and lose RM400.

The reason I'm posting this complaint here is to bring the seller down, if possible.
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Rm400 is quite alot of cash bro... it doesnt worth it to take a risk like this... hunt this guy dwn... rm400 perhead.. 10 already 4k... he must be enjoying the cash dat u guys gave him... so lodge a report and bring him dwn... before he scam more in the future... good luck to u
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post Sep 2 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(my_zYen @ Sep 1 2010, 03:37 PM)
with the police report...
u can go to hsbc and ask detail about the acc...sure bank will help u if got the report..
if lucky enough..can ask the bank to freeze their bank acc...
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Will give it a try. Thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(A_One @ Sep 1 2010, 11:20 PM)
Rm400 is quite alot of cash bro... it doesnt worth it to take a risk like this... hunt this guy dwn... rm400 perhead.. 10 already 4k... he must be enjoying the cash dat u guys gave him... so lodge a report and bring him dwn... before he scam more in the future... good luck to u
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Yup, you are right. RM400 is not a small amount. There were also other victims in this case who lost way more than I did.

Anyway thanks smile.gif

This post has been edited by vyzc: Sep 2 2010, 12:03 AM
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post Sep 12 2010, 10:52 AM

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so bro??whats the update?

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post Oct 13 2010, 12:18 PM

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should faster make a police report ... and go bank get more details about the scammer ..

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