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 Tips and Tricks for Mass Gaining, Tips and Physique Friendly Recipes :)

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TSken86
post Nov 12 2009, 09:17 AM, updated 16y ago

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Since I m on a lean mass gaining phase

Generally, a good starting point will be multiplying your lean body weight x 15 and add 500 - 1000 calories to that. You'll have to experiment with this. If u have a crazy-ass metabolism (ectomorphs not skinny fat people) you probably want to start at 500-1000 calories over maintenance. If you have a slow metabolism (LIKE ME !!!) you would want to start at about ~500 calories over predicted maintenance. You'll have to experiment this smile.gif take weekly pictures and show it to the world !!!

protein - at least 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
carbs - at least 2 - 3 grams per pound of lean body mass
fats - the remaining calories available

Healthy, but Delectable Recipes

now for my favourite breakfast mass gaining shake
(1,111 calorie shake)

Ingredients
12 oz low fat milk (HL? MARIGOLD?)
1 scoop of Whey (Optimum nutrition 100%, Scivation)
1 Low carb yoghurt ( read the labels )
1 banana (medium sized, maybe longer than your WIENER biggrin.gif)
2 tbsp of mixed nuts (I use walnuts and almond mix)
1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil
1/2 cup of Dry oats
2 Splenda / Equal Packets (Optional)

BLEND AND DOWN IT LIKE A MAN

another goodie
Low-Fat Fruit Smoothie

2 Scoops of Whey - Strawberry / Vanilla
Strawberries or Blueberries (Blueberries are expensive over here, Use strawberries instead)
1 big banana
1 cup of instant, non-flavored oatmeal
8 ounces of light yogurt
2 cups of low fat milk
Calories: 850
Protein: 70 grams

Smooth Strawberry Dream
Ingrediets
1 cup plain 2%/non-fat Greek yogurt
1 cup fresh or frozen strawberries
3 tbsp organic coconut milk
1-2 tbsp flax seeds - optional
1 scoop vanilla or strawberry protein powder - optional
splenda if required
ice cubes


Here are the Nutrition Facts for the Smoothie in its original form: Calories 335 Fat 16.5 grams Carbs 22.5 grams Fiber 4 grams Protein 24 grams.

For modified version with optional ingredients - the protein and flax seeds: Calories 524 Fat 22 grams Carbs 34.5 grams Fiber 10 grams Protein 47 grams.

The original form has no so called dietary supplements (eg. whey protein which is a bane for some, for reasons I cannot fathom as well). It taste great and a well balanced meal. enjoy

Banana "Ice Cream"

Looking for some guilt free carb source to fuel your workouts, look no further !
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Here is probably the easiest recipe you will ever find and surprisingly tasty.

Ingredients

- 2 bananas (frozen)

- Vanilla Essence

There is a couple of ways you could make this – either puree then freeze or do what i did which was chuck a couple of bananas (peeled) which were about to go black into the freezer, then throw them in the food processor and blend with the vanilla until smooth and creamy – surprisingly not unlike ice-cream. Depending on how soft/cold you want it, you can either get straight into it or pop it back in the freezer for a while. The other way to do it would be to puree the fresh bananas then freeze the puree, tho I suspect it would freeze solid and you would have to puree again to regain the creamy texture.

Raspberry sorbet
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Ingredients
1 ½ cups raspberries
½ cup light coconut milk
1 egg white, beaten to soft peaks
½ medium banana
1 tbs honey
1 tbs lemon juice

Instructions
Blend raspberries, coconut milk, banana, lemon juice and honey in a blender on high speed until creamy.

Gently fold raspberry mixture into the beaten egg white. Pour mixture into an ice-cream container/ freezer proof container and freeze for 6 hours or overnight until set.

To serve, cut into slices and scoop it with a spoon. Can be done with blueberries or strawberries or whatever berries that swing your way.

Mango sorbet
Ingredients
1 cup diced mango pieces, frozen
2/3 cup of light coconut milk

Instructions
Blend frozen mango pieces and coconut milk in a blender on high speed until creamy and smooth. serve

Tasty Cold Oatmeal
- Base
1.Blend up a scoop or two of protein powder with water and pour it over some Old Fashioned/Rolled Quaker Oats (or whatever brand, dun be so rigid !). Now, add some frozen berries (optional), 'I buy strawberries and freeze them'

2.Let it sit for 3-4 minutes in the fridge before chowing down

You can always tweak this recipe say if you use vanilla flavour protein, a hint of cinammon and some pan seared banana slices (use a lil butter to cook it).

or
1. In the base above, replace water with milk and put a little peanut butter as u blend it. Pour over your oats, sprinkle some toasted almond flakes(buy them from the supermarket and toast it in an over at 150C ) or sunflower seeds or toasted chopped walnuts
2. Let it sit for 3-4 minutes before consuming.

HEALTHY & GUILT FREE NESCAFE ICE
1/2 scoop low carb vanilla protein powder
3/4 cup cold brewed coffee (nescafe or whatever brand that works for u)
4 ice cubes
1/2 cup cold water
4 packets of Equal (optional)
1/2 tsp cocoa to shake things up (I use heinz unsweetened cocoa powder/ possible substitute - if u r not strict on diet can be any chocolate powder (cadbury perhaps?)


My normal main meals where I cooked on sunday and sliced it accordingly

Lean Meatloaf

1 pound 96% Lean Beef
1/4 cup onion,diced
1/2 large green pepper,diced
2 egg whites,beaten
1/4 cup oatmeal
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
8oz reduced sodium tomato sauce

Pepper to taste

Preheat over 350degrees. Mix meat,vegetables,eggs,garlic powder,oatmeal and half of the tomato sauce together in medium sized bowl. Spoon mixture into an 8x8 square baking pan or bread loaf pan sprayed with nonstick cooking spray. Top loaf with remaining tomato sauce and bake for approximately 50 minutes. Makes 4 large slices. (you can put it in a muffin tray, and make some anabolic MEAT MUFFINS !!!!, baking time varies depending on size)

Supplement Facts:
per serving

Calories-172
Carbs-9g
Protein-23g
Fat-5g
Fiber-2g

Rosemary Balsamic Chicken

3 boneless skinless chicken breasts
1 tablespoon rosemary (fresh preferred)
3 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon pepper

When you get home, rinse off the chicken breasts, then throw them in the bag with everything else. Mix it up a little, and let it sit in the fridge for at least two hours to marinate.

To cook, preheat your over to 400 degrees, throw the chicken and stuff into a baking dish, cover it, and let it cook in the oven for 25 minutes, or until the meat reaches 165 degrees. If you don't have a "meat thermometer", separate it with a fork.

I cooked these in big batches. 4kgs at a time, go ahead, laugh , I don't care.

Nutrition Facts:
6 oz of breast = 45g of protein (the spices/condiments are calorie free ! the wonders of knowing your way in the kitchen)


Asian Chicken and Broccoli Stirfry
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Ingredients
8oz 97% lean ground chicken or turkey or beef (can be precooked and shred it when you need em')
2 cups chopped broccoli
1 cup chopped mushrooms
1 tbsp Sesame Oil
1.5 tbsp reduced-sodium soy sauce
garlic powder to taste
ginger powder to taste
Directions
Brown turkey on med to medium high heat (you can go higher if using stainless steel or cast iron cooking pan, for non stick I would stay there) in the sesame oil and soy sauce. Once meat is approximately halfway cooked, add in broccoli and mushrooms and stir. Sprinkle on powders and stir some more until evenly distributed. Enjoy.
There you go. Another delicious and easy recipe. If you want more carbs with it (especially post training), serve hot with rice!


Crispy "Fried" Chicken

2 pounds boneless, skinless chicken breast halves
1/4 cup whole wheat flour
1/2 cup unprocessed bran flakes (optional)
4 egg whites, beaten
1 teaspoon fresh ground pepper
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1 teaspoon parsley
1/2 teaspoon salt


Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Combine all dry ingredients in large bowl and mix well. Dip chicken in egg whites and the coat both sides by dipping them in dry mixture. Dip them again if desired and spray both sides with nonstick cooking spray. Bake chicken in a shallow baking dish for about 30 minutes or until coating and insides of breast are no longer pink.

Taste great and highly palatable ! Give it a honest try u kitchen noobs !

Tuna Melt Patties

1 6oz can tuna in WATER, drained
1 egg, beaten
2 tablespoons oatmeal
2 tablespoons onions, diced
(or 1/4 teaspoon onion powder)
1/4 teaspooon garlic powder
2 tablespoons reduced fat mozzarella / Cheddar

Mix all ingredients except cheese together in a small bowl. Heat a small nonstick frying pan over medium heat and spray with nonstick cooking spray. Make to small patties by spooning half the tuna mixture into each side of the pan and lightly pressing with a fork to flatten into a patty. Cook until both sides are brown. Top with on tablespoon cheese and serve.

For everyone that complains bout plain tuna

"Cocoa-Nut Milk Shake"
2 scoops chocolate protein powder
1 scoop cocoa powder
1 tbsp cinnamon
1/2 cup coconut milk
1/2 cup water
5 ice cubes
Place ingredients into blender for 30 seconds.

not your usual shake but taste like a dream

The Orgasmatron

Ingredients; 
80g (1 cup) rolled oats 
1 large banana 
2 scoops Optimum Nutrition 100% whey, chocolate flavour 
1 tablespoon honey 
1.5 cups 2% fat milk3) Preparation; 
Put 2 scoops of ON chocolate whey into the shaker bottle (must go in first) 
Add 80g of oats 
Chop up the large banana into small slices and add to the shaker bottle 
Add a tablespoon of honey 
Pour in the 1.5 cups of milk 
The trick is NOT to blend this, add the ingredients into the shaker bottle, put the cap on, and shake it, this means that the ingredients mix but the oats and banana slices remain relatively in tact. 

Once the ingredients are all mixed up, add water until you reach the desired consistency. Once you?re happy that the shake is mixed and has enough water simply drink the sweet, chocolate, milky liquid. Once you?ve drunk the liquid get a spoon and eat the rest like a cereal. 


a. 903 calories 
b. 71g protein 
c. 120g carbohydrates 
d. 11g fibre 
e. ? 
f. 17g fat 
i. 7g saturated 
ii. 6g monounsaturated 
iii. 3g polyunsaturated 

This shake is absoloutely ideal for either breakfast or preworkout, it packs a huge number of calories and provides enough protein/carbs to fuel your workout and recovery or kick start your metabolism after the overnight fast. 

good ol' scrambled eggs

Ingredients:

4 Omega-3 enriched local eggs
2% Milk
Butter
Sea Salt
Black Pepper - Those whole black pepper in pepper grinder variant not the pre-grind shit, they taste like smoke ash
Cooking pan
Rubber spatula - This took me a year to figure out and it's the key to some damn good scrambled eggs. Don't be like my unenlightened friends and use one of those burger-flipper spatulas. They're too large and clumsy. You need something svelte, small, and easy to maneuver.

Make the perfect scrambled eggs

1. Crack your eggs against the lip of the bowl and use your thumbs to pull the egg apart. Make sure not to get any shell in the mixture. And keep the yolks! If I find one more person who only cooks with egg whites I'm going to poke him numerous times with my egg-soaked fork and hope he gets salmonella.

2. Heat your nonstick pan on medium heat for a minute or so and toss a teaspoon of butter into the pan.

3. While your pan is heating, pour a little bit of milk into the egg mixture. I'm not sure exactly how much because I've never measured it. My guess is about two tablespoons.

4. Take your fork and beat the hell out of the egg and milk mixture using quick wrist flicks. Your wrist should be moving like you're using one of those old pencil sharpeners that you have to crank with your hand. Make sure to some air into the bowl as it'll make the eggs fluffier. Beat for 30 seconds or so.

5. Making sure the butter is melted and the pan is hot pour the mixture into the pan. You should hear a slight sizzle.

6. Let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute and then take your rubber spatula and start "scrambling" the eggs by pushing the cooked stuff off the bottom and letting the runny yellow part directly onto the pan.

7. After a couple of minutes of scrambling, you should have some nice, fluffy, yellowy-white eggs. I like to pull mine off the stove top before I see any brown spots on the eggs.

8. Dash some salt and pepper on your eggs and eat! Oh, and make sure you complement your eggs with turkey sausage, whole-wheat toast, or some fresh fruit on the side.

Nutritional Facts :
28g of protein, 20g of fat (the good kind), virtually no carbs

Try it a few times and play around with how much milk you add and how long you leave it on the stove top.

these takes way less than 10 minutes to prepare and cook. stop whining.

Home-made Protein Bars

Ingredients
Peanut Butter – 1 cup
Oats – ½ Cup
Protein Powder (preferably chocolate or vanilla) – ¼ cup
Honey - optional
All measurements are approximate since I usually just mix until it looks good.
Optional
o Raisins
o Nuts – pecans, almond, walnuts, cashew, or make a trail mix !
o Dark chocolate pieces – sugar free variant
Instructions
Mix all ingredients. The protein powder will take some of the “tackiness” off of the peanut butter and honey. The mix should not be crumbling. If it is, add another spoonful of PB. If it is too wet add some more oats.
Stick it the mixture between two sheets of wax paper and refrigerate for at least 25 minutes.
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Home-made Protein Bars (Fortified version for the skinnies)

Ingredients

2 1/2 c. (200 g) oats
1 scoop (30 g) whey powder (use chocolate flavor)
2 tbsp. natural peanut butter
3 large egg whites
2 medium bananas (300 g), mashed
1 tbsp. honey
7 tbsp. (approx. 100 ml) non-fat milk or low fat milk
1 tsp. cinnamon

Instructions

Preheat your oven for 5 minutes at 375oF. Mix the oats, the whey and the cinnamon. Add the peanut butter and stir in thoroughly. Add the egg whites, mashed bananas and the honey. Add the non-fat/low fat milk slowly, while mixing thoroughly.
Spoon the mixture into a greased lined cake tin and level with a knife. Place in oven and bake for 15 minutes. Remove from oven and allow to cool slightly before cutting to reduce stickiness. Cut into 8 bars.

Alternatively, just refrigerate them and eat it straight if you don’t have an oven in home.

NUTRITION INFORMATION
Calories (Per Serving): 154
Protein 9.5g
Carbohydrates 21.3g
Fat 3.4g

Tomato and Eggplant Curry
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prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients
. 1 medium eggplant
. 1 large tomato
. 2 Tbsp olive oil
. 1/4 C coconut milk
. 1/2 C chicken broth
. 1 tsp curry powder
. 2 Tbsp sesame seeds
. 2 cloves garlic
. Fresh basil
. 5 oz cooked and diced chicken

Cut the tomato and eggplant into small pieces, then saute them in a large saucepan with the olive oil and curry powder. Saute them until they are soft and begin to break down. Add the remaining ingredients and simmer for 3-4 more minutes. Enjoy!

If you can find Thai fish sauce and red curry paste, these can be added as well and will really enhance the taste.

This meal is high protein, high fat and low carbs - perfect for anytime meals

Cauliflower with Egg Sauce

prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients

. 1 head of cauliflower
. 2 tbsp olive oil
. 2/3 C minced sweet onion
. 2 tbsp ground walnuts or almonds
. 2 hard boiled eggs, chopped finely
. 1/4 C fresh parsley or dill Pepper to taste

Boil the cauliflower florets. In a skillet, saute the onions in the olive oil until soft and brown. Stir in the ground nuts, eggs, parsley or dill, and pepper. Toss lightly until blended. Place the cauliflower in a dish, then pour the sauce over it. This can make a great 5 block meal at X5 fat with the addition of a little lean protein - grilled chicken, beef etcetra.

ALMOND MILK
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Use 1 cup of almonds for approximately 1ltr of Almond Milk. one cup almond = approx. < 250g of almonds = 4 x 250ml of almond milk and no it's not expensive at all. 1kg almonds ranges from RM 10 - 20. 20 /4 = RM 5 for 1 ltr almond milk (breakdown)

Directions : -
• Soak 1 cup of almonds overnight (or for a minimum of 6hours). Overnight soaking is the better way to prepare the almonds as more tannins and phytic acids are removed, ultimately enhancing digestibility of the almond milk.

• Place the almonds in a blender along with 3‐4cups of water (you do not need to remove the skins). Blend the almonds for 1minute.

• Sweetener is not necessary especially if fresh almonds are used. If it is desired, however, adding 3‐8 dates or a tablespoon of honey within the blending process will add a hint of sweetness to the almond milk.

• Strain milk through a nut milk bag or a couple of layers of cheese cloth into a bowl or through a sieve (this may result in a little bit of almond fiber in the milk but will sit to the bottom of your jug/cup).

• Keep in an air‐tight container/jug for up to 4‐5days in the refrigerator.

Commercial preparations of almond milk do not have the desired amount of almond nutrients, as pasteurization and other manufacturing processes take their toll on nutrient content. Besides, almond milk has a shelf life of only 4‐5 days, so commercially available almond milk has to add more water and is laced with sugar and preservatives to prolong shelf life. In addition, vitamin E is no longer present and only a few hundred milligrams of essential fatty acids (especially omega‐3 and omega‐6) are left in shop‐bought almond milk.

Almond milk is very nutritious. Each cup (approximately 100g) of raw almonds converted into almond milk is good for 4 servings, and each serving roughly provides 105.3 calories, 4g of protein (or 16g per 100g of almond), 3.6g of carbohydrate, 1.9g of fiber, 23mg of calcium, 5.1mg of sodium, and 9.2g of total fat of which only 0.7g is saturated fat (the 8.5g of unsaturated fat is 92.4% of total fat)

Apple and Almond Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
½ cup diced green apple (skin removed)
½ tsp natural vanilla essence
2 scoop of protein powder - vanilla

Place ingredients into a blender and blend for 1min.

Nut Crunch Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
2 ice cubes
1 tbs almond butter
½ tsp cinnamon
1 tbs crushed nuts
2 scoops of protein powder - chocolate or whatever swings your way

Place all ingredients except for the crushed nuts into a blender and bend for 1min. Once poured into a glass, sprinkle top with crushednuts

Marinades - New Section
All Purpose Marinade
1/4 cup olive oil
2 tablespoons of balsamic vinegar
2 tablespoons of whole grain mustard
1 teaspoon of onion powder
1 teaspoon of garlic powder
1 teaspoon of oregano
1 teaspoon of thyme
1 teaspoon of rosemary
Salt and pepper



Approved 'Clean' Foods - Wanna gain some lean mass, then starting eating Whole 'Clean' Foods, ditch the junk

Proteins
 Chicken Breast
 Egg Whites
 Lean Beef
 Lean Fish
 Low-Fat Dairy products
 Protein Powder
 Turkey Breast
Carbohydrates
 Amaranth
 Beans
 Brown Rice Tortillas
 Fruit
 Oats
 Pasta
 Quinoa
 Potatoes
 Rice
Vegetables
 Asparagus
 Bell Peppers
 Bok Choy
 Broccoli
 Carrots
 Cauliflower
 Celery
 Cucumbers
 Green Beans
 Lettuce
 Onions
 Spinach
 Squash
 Tomatoes
Fats
 Avocado
 Cheese
 Whole Omega 3 Eggs
 Hummus
 Nuts
 Oils
 Olives

Short tip of eating clean - try to eat foods that take lesser 'STEPS' to prepared.

Simple tips

If you are still struggling to gain weight
Tip 1 - Graze Healthily - Still whining about not being able to eat enough? Geez. Okay, try this: throw two servings of dried fruit (I like RAISINS the best) into a sandwich bag with two servings of omega-3 rich walnuts. That's about 12 dates and a half cup of shelled walnuts.

Place these in your car, your desk at work, or your locker at school. Snack at will. Consume the whole bag in one day and you'll have ingested an easy 640 healthy calories. Have one bag a day and you'll get over 4400 extra calories per week, all from healthy fruits and nuts.

Tip 2 - Olive oil shooters - Get a shooter glass and down it 2 - 3 times a day (use it sparingly unless you are a pure ectomorph, clearly I m not one so I don';t use it)

Tip 3 - Essentials -

Raw nuts. They're cheap, healthy, and portable. They also pack some healthy fats and a little protein — the type of calories that aren't likely to end up on your waistline.

Canned tuna and salmon. Great sources of protein that are also convenient and portable.

Fruits and veggies. You can't eat enough of these. The ones in the store are fine, but the ones you pick up at the local farmer's market are even better (and probably organic as well).

Rolled oats Nothing fancy, but a great source of fiber and slow-digesting carbs. Avoid the instant packets. Buy the store brand if you need to save some money. Look for just one ingredient on the label: whole rolled oats.

So you will never run out of food and give excuses to F***ing binge.

Tip 4 - Eat Clean 90% of the time, follow John Berardi's 90% Rule say I eat 42 meals a week (6 meals a day) I have the privilege of eating 4 meals of whatever I want (keep in moderation please)

Tip 5 - Eat lean protein with every meal, Get most of your carbs in the morning, take your fish oils

Tip 6 - Rest and Recover - Contrast Bath, Self Myofascial Release using a FOAM ROLLER / PVC Pipe , Hiring Pizzaboy to loosen you out, Soft tissue work with golf ball/tennis ball (piriformis, rotator cuffs, peroneals, calves, etc)

Tip 7 - Do your conditioning - Don't wanna turn in tub of fat lard , do the conditioning drills shown below

Tip 8 - MILK is NOT the best food product for lean mass gain but perfect for weight gaining. Lactose is just not a good carb source, not to mention many people are allergic to it. Casein and whey are exceptional protein sources though, but get them on their own without the fat and lactose found in milk.

Tip 9 - Drink Ample Water - It's essential to stay hydrated as muscle tissues are 75% water and blood is over 90% water. A rule of thumb would be 0.6 ounces of water for every pound of BW. Eg. a 200 lbs male would drink 120 ounces, 3.5 litres water a day.

Tip 10 - Prepare your meal in advance - When you are not prepared, you are at the mercy of what's available at restaurants, hawker stalls , etc.

'An hour in the kitchen' - Sunday Meal Prep Ritual

*Boiling pot of water, used for steaming one batch after another of a variety of fresh veg (for example, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, chard, spinach, brussels sprouts, asparagus).

*In the oven, I'll be cooking yams in a glass dish with water (I use yams as my starch of choice for fueling my endurance training!), along with some plain chicken breast, perhaps, or maybe some fresh black cod or salmon...

*I might also prepare a marinade to use on some grass-fed skirt steak, after I've tenderized it with a mallet; using extra virgin olive oil, fresh garlic, lime juice cilantro and a dash of cayenne pepper (as long as one is not following the AI plan, this is acceptable).

*I may also create a marinade for some chicken- perhaps a pesto using basil, garlic, walnuts, pine nuts,
lemon and olive oil.

*I'd wash whole fruit (apples, oranges, pears, peaches, grapes, and so on).

*After everything is cool, store in small, portable containers that you will be able to grab in a flash en route to the office or school when you're rushing out the door in the morning! Be sure to place in each container- some protein, some healthy unprocessed carbohydrate (fruit/veg) and some good fat (avocado, flax, olive oil) etc..


Nutrition Tips for the Busy

Here’s a collection of tips to help you “get your eat on” in a healthy and inexpensive manner without having to devote hours of your day to food preparation.
At home
Start off your mornings with a blender shake consisting of dry oats, a protein powder blend, and some healthy fats like walnuts or flaxseed oil. Prepare the shake “dry” at night by putting all the ingredients in a Tupperware container. In the morning, all you’ll have to do is put some ice and water in the blender, dump in the contents of the container, and blend for about thirty seconds. This way you can prepare and consume your first meal of the day in just a few minutes.
Prepare all your meals on one day of the week. Choose a day when you’re not very busy, like Sunday, to cook all your meats, vegetables rice, and other items. Divide what you prepare into meals that you can
freeze in separate containers. Each night before you go to bed, take out what you need for the following day and let it thaw overnight in the
fridge. This might sound like a lot of work at first, but after a couple of weeks, it will become part of your regular routine.
On the road
Keep your car and office stocked with items like tuna pouches, a sleeve of rice cakes, bottled water, some protein meal replacement packets, or canisters of nuts.
Didn’t pack any food? Stop at a supermarket instead of a fast food joint. Most supermarkets have salad bars, sushi, and other healthy options.
Most fast food restaurants now offer a healthy menu. Choose items like chicken salads, chicken wraps, and baked potatoes. Deli-style fast food restaurants where you can get a turkey or chicken sub on whole wheat bread are other good options.
In the office
Pack a lunch. Not only will this save you money, but you’ll also have complete control over what you eat each day.
At a business lunch? Most restaurants should have a healthy choice like a chicken salad (skip the dressing), a piece of fish, or baked/broiled chicken with some steamed vegetables. Ask to have any sauces or condiments put on the side.
Not enough time for a meal at work? Keep a couple of pre-made protein shakes (a couple scoops of protein powder, some oats, and some calorie-free sweetener) in plastic shaker bottles at your desk or in your toolbox.In less than thirty seconds, you can add water and consume the entire “meal.” These emergency meals will also come in handy if you ever have to work an extra long shift and don’t have anything else prepared.
The first step to success is making a firm commitment to a healthy diet. Once that’s done, solutions with arise on their own. With a little bit of planning and determination, even the busiest schedule will be no obstacle to sound nutrition.


Zig zagging your calories - the basic premise is to reduce calories on non training days'
The idea is similar to carb cycling - I m sure everyone heard of carb cycling, I use exclusively the rules from Shelby Starnes after consulting him many times
MEN

High day

Carbs: 2-3 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1-1.25 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.5-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.15-0.35 grams per pound of body weight

WOMEN
High Day

Carbs: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.75 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.2-0.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.1-0.2 grams per pound of body weight

Sample for a 250 lb male
High Day


Meal 1 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 2 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 3 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 4 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 5 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 6 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 7 : same

Low to Moderate Day
Meal 1 : 60g protein, 80g carbs
meal 2 : 60g protein, 50g carbs, 5g fat
Meal 3 : 60g protein, 10g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 4 : 60g protein, 80g carbs (or whenever postworkout)
Meal 5 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 6 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables

Carb cycling is a wonderful plan as you can do it both ways - more high days and less low days for lean mass gain and less high days more low days for weight loss.
You need to experiment this or post your diet if you wanna try carb cycling.

I personally used high, med, low days. For now, 1 high day on monday, other training days are med days, and remaining days are low days. I will monitor my progress and add more high days. Some weeks I feel flat , I would add a SUPER HIGH DAY 1000g of carbs to replenish my glycogen and to jump start my metabolism.

Glycemic Index

Question: Should I be concerned with the glycemic index of carbs?

Answer: I get asked bout this a lot, seriously GI is not rocket science. Although I think it's silly to base an entire diet book on glycemic index alone, it is still something that should be considered.

To get everyone up to speed, the glycemic index (G.I.) is a measure of how quickly a carbohydrate ends up as glucose in the bloodstream. Simple (typically more sugary) carbs are digested very rapidly and have a high G.I. This results in significant amounts of glucose flooding the bloodstream at once. Complex carbs, on the other hand, are in essence time released and are characterized as having a low G.I. This is much better as it results in fewer ups and downs in both energy and appetite. However, consuming carbohydrates with other foods like protein, fibrous carbs, and fat slows the digestion of the carbs in that meal. Therefore, the glycemic index of the carbohydrate itself becomes slightly less important. Although the glycemic index is something that you should keep in the back of your mind, eating natural, unprocessed carbs is a far more important consideration. Bananas and white potatoes, for example, have a fairly high glycemic index but are still good nutrient dense foods that are perfectly fine to consume on a fairly regular basis, especially if you consume them with protein and fibrous carbs
(vegetables) as you should be doing anyway.

Let me put it this way: if the worst thing you do is eat carrots, bananas, and potatoes... you will do just fine! best time to put your carbs (excluding non-fibrous carbs especially like cruciferous vegetables) is breakfast and postworkout.

carbs is your friend , use it to your advantage, don't be a carb phobic !


Conditioning & Energy system training (also called cardio) -

You wanna gain some mass with minimal fat gain, do SOME CONDITIONING DRILLS !

Plate/Car pushes
An exercise mat, and some plates, you can accomplish this excellent conditioning exercise. Place a mat (or towel) on the ground, put plates on the mat, push. It’s that simple. or just push your CAR

Try 60 yards for five rounds with 60 seconds rest between rounds. It’s a great place to start.

Wrestler’s circuit
This is a wrestling coach’s circuit, and I found it very effective. Aim to use 70–80 percent of your competition weight (the top of your weight class). This is going to take you anywhere from 1.5–2 minutes to complete

A 185-lb fighter could use 135 lbs to start with:

Clean X 5
Romanian deadlift X 5
Front squat X 5
Overhead press X 5
Clean X 5


Perform with as minimal transition time between exercises as possible.

Legal eagle drill
I found a fitness qualifications manual for the RCMP or Canadian Army as some standards for their applicants. You can customize this to your own nation’s requirements. It’s just simply something to play with, and it’s very customizable. I’d recommend throwing it in every so often and testing to see where you’re at. Once you beat the standards, make it more difficult.


2.5 Kms/1.5 mile run, 11 minutes minimum, 9 minutes is ideal
40+ push-ups
40+ sit-ups
5+ full ROM pull-ups

I put this up in a hurry, time to get back to the lab smile.gif

Add blast straps (I made my own blast straps using chains and D-handles, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANNA KNOW HOW), a weight vest, the incline on a treadmill, or weighted pull-ups to increase the difficulty level.

Barbell complexes
These are familiar to everyone by now thanks to Alywn’s infamous articles. Here is an example:


Deadlift
Romanian deadlift
Shrug
Clean
Upright row
Overhead press
Back squat
Row

You can literally create any combinations that you dream of. Rep ranges are dependent on you, but it is recommended that you stick between 6–8 reps. The rule is keep the bar moving quickly. A simple method is to perform one round, add weight, and perform again for time. Here’s an example:


Circuit one

R1: Start with the barbell.
R2: Add 10 lbs to the bar (55 lbs).
R3: Add another 10 lbs to the bar (65 lbs).
R4: Remove 10 lbs (55 lbs).
R5: Just use the bar.

Rest periods can last from 30–60 seconds.

Louie’s Olympic “tri-plex”
This is a simple Olympic lift complex where a single lift is performed in each of the three exercises. Then you rest for 30 seconds. Start each rep with your knees on the floor to help build up explosive power in the hips


High pull
Clean
Clean and press


When working with Kevin Randleman, Louie is rumored to have used this circuit to build up Kevin’s amazing explosive speed and strength. Mind you, Kevin used 200 lbs. Start slowly and work your way up in both time and weight.

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Added on November 12, 2009, 9:19 amMust Read article from John Romano. (to all everyone that has been asking what supplement works and all, DIET AND TRAINING IS YOUR BEST SUPPLEMENT !!)

The most commonly asked question I ever get is, "does ____work?" I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been asked that question by a guy looking for the answer. From this or that supplement; to this or that drug; to this or that training method; high-carb or low-carb; high intensity, low intensity; for every possible machination of bodybuilding, someone has asked me for my opinion. Do I look like I know? I'm only five-nine, 205! I just like to train. So, for the most part, I really don't care if the subtle nuances in this great big thing we practice make that much of a difference. I just do what I like and whatever doesn't aggravate my injuries. After 35years it's not going to make that much difference to me anyway. And since it doesn't matter to me, I've been five-nine, 205, for a really long time. I'm, actually, quite happy staying right here in the groove that works for me. While weighing 260 might look pretty cool on my frame, I have no desire to do so. That's not to say I never did...

At some point in my mid-20s, I got up to a little over 230 and couldn't stand it. I was always walking around with my mouth open, glazed in sweat and wheezing like an old Ford with a leaky head gasket. I had a gallon jug of water in one hand and cooler in the other, and if either got below a quarter full while I was stuck in traffic, I began to panic. A "real job" was totally out of the question, so my income was derived by a smattering of various activities, half of them illicit, and none of them more than five miles from Gold's. Had my stellar genetics gone any higher than my knees, perhaps I would have chased this endeavor a bit further, but, in this business, being smarter than you look has its advantages.

So, here I am, steeped in physical mediocrity, albeit through jaundiced eyes. While anyone who has this much time in the iron game has it all over the average Joe, I'll never look in the mirror and see it that way; not with guys like Jay Cutler running around at my height and outweighing me by 100 pounds. And I really don't care anymore. Yet, because of where I am, what I've done, and who I know, I still get the questions about drugs, supplements and training from guys who look at a guy like Cutler and can't possibly begin to imagine the magnitude of what they‘re looking at.

I really can't blame anyone for being so in-awe and yet so lost. With so much bullshit to waddle through, I don't even know why anyone would put their magazine down and head out to the gym. Science, science, science.... Who gives a f*** about science? Anyone who does looks like they do. Jay Cutler doesn't give a rat's ass about science. Only the stringy little geeks do. What matters is what works in the real world - in the gym, and on contest day. University studies are for wimps because empirical knowledge trumps science every time. So, inevitably, you guys turn to us for the truth. And when you do, you get such a cold dose of reality that I sometimes think some people might feel better being lied to. There are enough illegal performance-enhancing drugs out there to grow hair on the Statue of Liberty. Then there are the legal ones,: pro-hormones, supplements, meal replacements, protein powders, training regimens and diet philosophies, all geared to building muscle and burning fat. No one could possibly do all of them, so they inevitably ask: "Does ____ work?"

In all the years I've been in this business, that question was only answered once to my satisfaction by anyone meaty enough to do so- Mike Matarazzo. His answer, "Everything works, but nothing works all the time," was his answer, and it has been my mantra since he uttered it. It's perhaps the single greatest truth in bodybuilding. Hence, it's in your better interest for me to answer the question, "does ____ work?" by telling you, "maybe." I say this regardless of whatever it is, because if I, or anyone else, tells you "yes," you're likely to give lesser credence to the only two things that work all the time in favor of something that might work some of the time.

What two things work all the time? Eating and training! True, this site would be awfully small and we'd have no advertisers if that's all there was to it, but until you have those two things dialed in, you're wasting your time, money and energy on anything else. I see too many guys who put the weight down after 10 reps and head to Denny‘s, and then wonder why, after a year, they only have 12-inch arms and no abs. Then, frustrated, their solution is to come to me and ask for a stack to put on mass. As comical as that may sound to some of you, to many of you it may well be a revelation. Ferocious training intensity and spot-on nutrition are 95 percent of the game. The other five percent can't possibly make up for it-no matter what it is. So go eat and go to the gym. Do that first, then start asking about what works. Intensity and consistency will always be the best medicine.

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hey bro, nice article u put up ere..btw, juz wondering, how much do u spend on solid food alone?
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good diet and all but i think as predator is trying to hint, not cheap smile.gif
but hey, comes at a cost eh
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I spent about RM 200 - 250 on groceries a week, that's not a lot if you divide it by 7. Most people are unwilling to spend the time to prep for their food, but I am aware of my less than stellar genetics and hence more hard work & dedication needed in the kitchen and weightroom.

Look around guys like Kmaru & registryeditor, they eat strict as well and adhere to their nutrition and their physique reflects it.
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lol it is alot when it adds up to 1k a month especially when young degree holders earn about 1600-2000, 1k will take a huge chunk off their pay.

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i think it's a good template...maybe we can try to amend it to suit our budget...or we can zig zag it to follow our training split-days...?? is it ok ken ???
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QUOTE(strinq @ Nov 12 2009, 05:11 PM)
lol it is alot when it adds up to 1k a month especially when young degree holders earn about 1600-2000, 1k will take a huge chunk off their pay.

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So i guess u save all your money and don't eat at all everyday ? Of course it cost a little more compared to what you are getting at chap fan stalls or hawker stalls. And hawker food are sugar laden , oil infused and it ain't cheap. It's normally comprised of simple carbs and keeps you even hungrier. Just a food for thought.


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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 05:44 PM)
So i guess u save all your money and don't eat at all everyday ?
yeah sure, my statement above totally implied that.
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y so defensive?
all i said is that it costs quite a bit and i actually said tht good diet comes at a cost that's all.

Chill lah.

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diablokun - korrect smile.gif

strinq - hey, I apologize if I sounded defensive or my attempt at berating you, your statement is the very reason steering most people away from following a sound nutrition plan. Again, my sincere apologies. Will read closely next time, I log in, quick read then reply hastily. I did explain on why spending a little more on your diet vs eating out all the time though.




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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 06:46 PM)
diablokun - korrect smile.gif

strinq - hey, I apologize if I sounded defensive or my attempt at berating you, your statement is the very reason steering most people away from following a sound nutrition plan. Again, my sincere apologies. Will read closely next time, I log in, quick read then reply hastily. I did explain on why spending a little more on your diet vs eating out all the time though.
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No worries, statements on the net are very easily misunderstood.
And I actually meant that we have to be willing to sacrifice/spend if we want something good by the statement "comes at a cost eh". But like i said, turned out that i phrased it badly i guess lol.

Great plan by the way.

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QUOTE(strinq @ Nov 12 2009, 05:11 PM)
lol it is alot when it adds up to 1k a month especially when young degree holders earn about 1600-2000, 1k will take a huge chunk off their pay.

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agree with that.

QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 05:44 PM)
So i guess u save all your money and don't eat at all everyday? Of course it cost a little more compared to what you are getting at chap fan stalls or hawker stalls. And hawker food are sugar laden , oil infused and it ain't cheap. It's normally comprised of simple carbs and keeps you even hungrier. Just a food for thought.
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BB never is a economic sport lol. as common, junk food always cheaper compared with healthy food in term of calorie nutrition.
my monthly expenses on food is around RM500-RM600
i am kind of lazy to cook, but i well use the time to prepare those super easy to cook meal yet with good nutrition
example
After wake up in early morning, fill water in the bowl, at the same time fill some "water" to the WC as well.
after toxic release, boil water>shower > water done> boil egg> wash face> egg is ready
there my breakfast go few slice of WW bread+few half boiled egg

Afternoon chap fan

Dinner
IF i went to gym then will probably cook myself. the time spent in the gym enough for defrosting chicken. ( the way i prepare chicken is damn easy yet fast, put some seasoning to the fillet, then put inside oven, it is ready after 15min)

Still, eggs and chicken is the cheapest protein you can find in the market.

QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 06:46 PM)
diablokun - korrect smile.gif

strinq - hey, I apologize if I sounded defensive or my attempt at berating you, your statement is the very reason steering most people away from following a sound nutrition plan. Again, my sincere apologies. Will read closely next time, I log in, quick read then reply hastily. I did explain on why spending a little more on your diet vs eating out all the time though.
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How fast the significant result can we seen with it?
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Grocery shopping for canned tuna, eggs, granola bars, peanut butter, HL milk, bread, cereal and oats already burn big holes in my wallet. If I were to add in chicken breast, beef and salmon or whatever.... I would be broke.... Like real broke with not much savings and no more happy hours.. sad.gif sad.gif
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How fast the significant result can we seen with it?
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you recently gained 10kgs of lean mass. why not tell me more how did you achieve it w/ pictures please and how can i improve on my article smile.gif .

results can be seen within a month if you adhere to it strictly and train hard.

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 13 2009, 03:40 PM)
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you recently gained 10kgs of lean mass. why not tell me more how did you achieve it w/ pictures please and how can i improve on my article  smile.gif .

results can be seen within a month if you adhere to it strictly and train hard.
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i'm big now but not lean yet. Now try to be as lean as you.
Will try you way. hope in one month the 6-pack will start visible

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QUOTE(arekey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:48 PM)
i'm big now but not lean yet. Now try to be as lean as you.
Will try you way. hope in one month the 6-pack will start visible
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10kgs of weight not lean mass , damn my hastiness sad.gif not to sound like a turd, but 178 cm and 78 kgs is not big in any way well maybe in malaysia biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 13 2009, 03:50 PM)
10kgs of weight not lean mass , damn my hastiness sad.gif not to sound like a turd, but 178 cm and 78 kgs is not big in any way well maybe in malaysia biggrin.gif
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True, what i'm sayin is i'm bigger now compare to before.
Thats why i target to 83-85kg

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 13 2009, 03:50 PM)
10kgs of weight not lean mass , damn my hastiness sad.gif not to sound like a turd, but 178 cm and 78 kgs is not big in any way well maybe in malaysia biggrin.gif
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You are 18+cm and 80kg but you seem to be big. 178 and 78kg is fair. I'm around there too.
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QUOTE(arekey @ Nov 13 2009, 02:59 PM)
True, what i'm sayin is i'm bigger now compare to before.
Thats why i target to 83-85kg
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i around 180cm but my weight just 60kg...my target is 65...^^
5 months ago i just 53 kg...lol...
after break with gf,then keep eat and eat...^^
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Woahh, 180 cm and 55kg is super slim.


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That's freaking underweight!
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QUOTE(John91 @ Nov 13 2009, 07:30 PM)
You are 18+cm and 80kg but you seem to be big. 178 and 78kg is fair. I'm around there too.
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difference case lol, your bf damn low, that why at your stat, you are quite big
but if 78kg with 30% BF doesnt big at all lo

QUOTE(winter-X @ Nov 13 2009, 08:11 PM)
i around 180cm but my weight just 60kg...my target is 65...^^
5 months ago i just 53 kg...lol...
after break with gf,then keep eat and eat...^^
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so what are you trying to tell us is your gf eat all your food or don't allow you to eat or together with her you cant afford to eat so much

LOL enough for crap
my suggestion is gain weight in healthy way. eating a junk food and pack tonne of FAT doesn't good at all. skinny fat guy looks sucks and mostly have alot of body problem.

so lift weight and eat hard
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180cm target 65kg? sweat.gif I've been underweight all my life but i'm trying to change that now. I'm 172cm and aiming to be 65kg. I put on 3 kg over the past few months working out and eating a lot (i thought i used to eat a lot but i gained after sticking to 6 meals). Now i'm at 55kg. After spm ends i'm gonna resume my training and eventually maybe i'll pack on 10 more kg of mostly muscle laugh.gif

Question though, i seem to be the only one bothered with this. How far can a guy go at my height while maintaining an athletic & fit instead of stocky look?

EDIT: I also wanted to ask about bodyfat... How much is good? Some herbalife people put me at 12.8% bodyfat and that's after i gained up to 55kg. They say 17% is optimum for guys but i was always under the impression that less is better. Bruce lee, anyone? bruce.gif Apparently he had near 0% b.f.

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QUOTE(pllx @ Nov 13 2009, 09:06 PM)
180cm target 65kg? sweat.gif I've been underweight all my life but i'm trying to change that now. I'm 172cm and aiming to be 65kg. I put on 3 kg over the past few months working out and eating a lot (i thought i used to eat a lot but i gained after sticking to 6 meals). Now i'm at 55kg. After spm ends i'm gonna resume my training and eventually maybe i'll pack on 10 more kg of mostly muscle laugh.gif

Question though, i seem to be the only one bothered with this. How far can a guy go at my height while maintaining an athletic & fit instead of stocky look?

EDIT: I also wanted to ask about bodyfat... How much is good? Some herbalife people put me at 12.8% bodyfat and that's after i gained up to 55kg. They say 17% is optimum for guys but i was always under the impression that less is better. Bruce lee, anyone? bruce.gif Apparently he had near 0% b.f.
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You are 18+cm and 80kg but you seem to be big. 178 and 78kg is fair. I'm around there too.
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like it said before, your bodyfat levels are low. I was 215 lbs going down to 80kgs . I was losing fat in that process.

Gaining muscle from say 65 kgs to 75 kgs is whole different ball game. Unless you have good genetics or adhere to super strict nutrition and train hard, part of weight gained is gonna be fat. Of course it's gonna look a lot different from someone going the other way (losing fat) say 75kgs to 65 kgs

and being lean gives the illusion of looking bigger.

prime example below

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he actually looks bigger in the after pics despite losing weight



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immediately post shakes, after that depends on your foods availability.

if malay stall,

nasi ayam with double serving for chicken
nasi telur bistik (ask telur bistik whole plates)

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steak
chicken chop

mamak
ayam tandoori + capati

Chow
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gomad la.. RM10 per day u can get around 90g of protein using everyday milk powder

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gomad la.. RM10 per day u can get around 90g of protein using everyday milk powder
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- added zig zagging calories section
- added tip - why milk is not for everyone

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ah, some simple clear cut description on the whole zig zag method and carb cycling. Been reading about it here and there with all sorts of conflicting opinions. Will try this and see if it works.
Thanks Ken.
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guys & girls let me know what else should be included !
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very nice guide. I'm about to try the zig zag method because I find it hard to gain lean mass if you control too much of your diet. I guess I am undereat. I'm too afraid to eat alot. Starting today, I will try this zigzag. During training day, eat as much as u like. I hope my bf dont go up too much
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 17 2009, 09:08 AM)
very nice guide. I'm about to try the zig zag method because I find it hard to gain lean mass if you control too much of your diet. I guess I am undereat. I'm too afraid to eat alot. Starting today, I will try this zigzag. During training day, eat as much as u like. I hope my bf dont go up too much
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Not eating as you much as like!!! is about ingesting quality calories and eating above maintenance, monitor your progress week by week and add calories accordingly and reduce calories accordingly


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@ken86 .. I like your guide and love your siggie and HIGHLY agree with it .. and here's why..

I was fat once and when i know it's time for a change i've picked up Tony's P90X program and followed it very tight and as for diet I've tried my best to follow what I have and replace for what i didn't have ...I was highly motivated, followed strict diet and workout as hard as i could. On the last day of the program i could see a huge difference ...

I was damn happy and stoke and decide to do the program one more time... but then this time I was recommended by a friend to replace all my meals with supplement (those MLM kind), it was cheaper than extremely clean diet and from one supplement i've ended having tonnes of them cuz they claim it needed this to work with this and so on and so on

In time i've realised I'm trying to make supplement to change me and I wasn't hitting the gym as hard as i would before... And you know what DO people actually do when they find out the supplements doesn't work .. they don't blame themselves but they blame on the product ... HAHAHA .. I went back to high regime training and this time i've limited to just a TUB of ON Whey and Multivits ... and the rest of the day EAT RIGHT and cheat once in a while to give yourself a reward ... and the result came back flying to me and been doing it till now smile.gif
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now dis is a good read...my weight hit a plateau 175cm 71kg...i wan to go on further oso ...target weight 80kg for now...body fat 15% i guess the 15 is on my waist line...
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I'm around 170cm and 60kg and aim to go up to 65kg. I tried taking some whey+protein supplement previously (din really stick to diet plan) and noticed it din help me in gaining any muscle even though i worked out tirelessly.
my question is how to actually utilise the supplement and how long/often do i need to work out to have lean body. do i need to totally skip taking rice for a month n take more food made of fibre+protein?
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Nov 26 2009, 05:27 PM)
I'm around 170cm and 60kg and aim to go up to 65kg. I tried taking some whey+protein supplement previously (din really stick to diet plan) and noticed it din help me in gaining any muscle even though i worked out tirelessly.
my question is how to actually utilise the supplement and how long/often do i need to work out to have lean body. do i need to totally skip taking rice for a month n take more food made of fibre+protein?
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you can use all the supplement you want but without a sound nutrition plan. It will never work. At least start out eating 'cleaner' and more frequent,
1) cleaner in the sense of lesser processed food , stick to whole foods
2) lesser refined carbs (bread, sugar) more complex carbs (it helps keep you fuller)

to gain muscle weight, you need to be at a caloric surplus.

workout tirelessly ? how ?

to obtain a 'lean and hard' cry.gif body takes times and much trial and error. not an overnight task.

u can take rice but try having it post workout instead. yes increase fibre intake aka more vegetables and MORE protein. and please DON't neglect the healthy fats !! like whole omega-3 eggs, nuts, olive oil, macadamia nut oil etc just to name a few. contrary to popular believes, fats don't make u fat.
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thx for the reply mate. hmm i'm working guy and it's hard not to have any processed food whole day.
could you share your/your recommendations of type of food to be consumed for 5-meals a day. i cannot bet i'll follow strictly that, but i'll try... things like wat to eat for breakfast n lunch especially, dinner i think it's ok to adjust.

btw, dunno whether this is out of topic, for those who are working, how often do u workout during the week?


QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 26 2009, 06:37 PM)
you can use all the supplement you want but without a sound nutrition plan. It will never work. At least start out eating 'cleaner' and more frequent,
1) cleaner in the sense of lesser processed food , stick to whole foods
2) lesser refined carbs (bread, sugar) more complex carbs (it helps keep you fuller)

to gain muscle weight, you need to be at a caloric surplus.

workout tirelessly ? how ?

to obtain a 'lean and hard'  cry.gif  body takes times and much trial and error. not an overnight task.

u can take rice but try having it post workout instead. yes increase fibre intake aka more vegetables and MORE protein. and please DON't neglect the healthy fats !! like whole omega-3 eggs, nuts, olive oil, macadamia nut oil etc just to name a few. contrary to popular believes, fats don't make u fat.
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Hey guys,

Bought some almond nuts from the organic shop. RM 13.90 for probably 3-4 servings. I'll probably spend RM 20+ on nuts a week if I keep buying from that place. Any place that sells it for a cheaper price? I'm unsure of where to look.
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Eat nuts sparingly. Nuts are known to be affected by aflatoxin producing molds. Aflatoxin is a natural very toxic and carcinogenic substance produced by a type of fungus called Aspergillus.

Nuts contain measurable amounts of oxalates. When oxalates become too concentrated in body fluids, they can crystallize and cause formation of kidney stones.

If you are looking for healthy fats, take fish oil, flax oil, coconut oil, olive oil, red palm oil and butter.
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nice try with causing an uproar with this minutia stuffs. I saw the same thing in whfoods.com with the help of google

Almonds are among a small number of foods that contain measurable amounts of oxalates, naturally-occurring substances found in plants, animals, and human beings. When oxalates become too concentrated in body fluids, they can crystallize and cause health problems. For this reason, individuals with already existing and untreated kidney or gallbladder problems may want to avoid eating almonds. Laboratory studies have shown that oxalates may also interfere with absorption of calcium from the body. Yet, in every peer-reviewed research study we've seen, the ability of oxalates to lower calcium absorption is relatively small and definitely does not outweigh the ability of oxalate-containing foods to contribute calcium to the meal plan. If your digestive tract is healthy, and you do a good job of chewing and relaxing while you enjoy your meals, you will get significant benefits -including absorption of calcium-from calcium-rich foods plant foods that also contain oxalic acid. Ordinarily, a healthcare practitioner would not discourage a person focused on ensuring that they are meeting their calcium requirements from eating these nutrient-rich foods because of their oxalate content

nuff said. Virtually every diet that works (paleo, john berardi stuffs) not grapefruit diet (those fad bullshit) recommends including nuts (especially almonds and walnuts). keep your GI Tract healthy with probiotics but these are finer things you SHOULD ONLY CONSIDER when you are at least eating right.


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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Nov 26 2009, 07:46 PM)
thx for the reply mate. hmm i'm working guy and it's hard not to have any processed food whole day.
could you share your/your recommendations of type of food to be consumed for 5-meals a day. i cannot bet i'll follow strictly that, but i'll try... things like wat to eat for breakfast n lunch especially, dinner i think it's ok to adjust.

btw, dunno whether this is out of topic, for those who are working, how often do u workout during the week?
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I am working as well. And I train , not workout.


People that Trains, not workout
They enter the gym with specific goals set in stone and that’s what their nutrition and training show. Once their goal is reached another is set. They do squats, deadlifts, cleans, chins, bench, overhead presses and not because they are hard, but because they work! They take these exercises and actually reach their goals. They have intensity in their eyes and desire in their heart. They don’t give a shit about “getting a pump”. They want to pick some heavy shit up, over and over. And you know what? They look like they “have a pump” ALL THE TIME. They train to push themselves to their limit and try to surpass it each time. They train to better themselves. People who train get to know themselves better. They find out what their made of and what it takes to overcome. They go to battle with the iron not knowing who will win. They TRAIN.

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Hey guys,

Bought some almond nuts from the organic shop. RM 13.90 for probably 3-4 servings. I'll probably spend RM 20+ on nuts a week if I keep buying from that place. Any place that sells it for a cheaper price? I'm unsure of where to look.
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purchase your almonds from baking shops instead. Look around, i am sure that's one near your neighborhood. They sell it really cheap bout RM 20 per kilo. Try to strike a deal with them, I buy mine in 5kgs every time and get a really good price.

and contrary to the post by 4rings, almonds and walnuts are really good for you. Many are fond of reading the first half of the paragraphs and jump straight into conclusion and post something to sound smart. Nice try.

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im gonna love this topic and pages here. and TS is that you in the picture? you r giving alot of motivation to me. thanks
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QUOTE(winkybear @ Nov 27 2009, 01:00 AM)
Hey guys,

Bought some almond nuts from the organic shop. RM 13.90 for probably 3-4 servings. I'll probably spend RM 20+ on nuts a week if I keep buying from that place. Any place that sells it for a cheaper price? I'm unsure of where to look.
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bro u said MILK is not the best for lean mass but weight gaining.

i always will take my 99% fat free milk with high calcium at 9pm-10pm. is it any good? will i become more n more fat in look? im so worried
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QUOTE(FoxAss @ Dec 1 2009, 07:23 PM)
bro u said MILK is not the best for lean mass but weight gaining.

i always will take my 99% fat free milk with high calcium at 9pm-10pm. is it any good? will i become more n more fat in look? im so worried
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how much milk are you taking ? It really depends on your body type. there's no 'one size fits all' diet. Some operate well with high carbs some don't . but I personally eliminate all dairy from diet as it gives me the bloats and smelly farts.

hammond tan - I will post it but too many here need to gain some muscle weight before even thinking of cutting.



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erm ken86..as for the oat thingy..i can use those Instant Oat from supermarket rite? Like Quaker Instant Oatmeal...
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erm ken86..as for the oat thingy..i can use those Instant Oat from supermarket rite? Like Quaker Instant Oatmeal...
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Rolled oats have relatively low GI (40-50) while instant oats are higher (75ish).

instant oatmeal have a relatively high glycemic index (GI) which means they have a greater impact on blood sugar and insulin release.

This makes them not very favorable for dieting, as more insulin not only means less fat-burning, it also means more hunger.

Choose slower digesting, lower GI carbs to keep you fuller longer and keep your insulin levels more steady.

Once you add something to the oats though (like protein, fat, etc.) you start lowering the GI.

all in all, If u bought your instant oats, finish it and then buy rolled oats next time preferably.

Glycemic index is not a good benchmark, what we should consider is the glycemic load. again these are details that none of us should worry about , focus on eating more quality food. Oats are a great start.
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icic..where do i get rolled oat? sorry...cant differentiate >_<..i see in supermarket all like the same only @@
by the way..i eat tat to gain weight..not lose weight >_< cause im super skinny....

thanks

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rolled oat can be found in many supermarket. If you eat to gain weight, then try ken's suggestion of eating more nuts and extra virgin olive oil.
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erm..i juz went to the supermarket...i only see..Instant Oatmeal and Quickcook Oatmeal...is it quickcook oatmeal is rolled oat? cause cant really find a product there writing rolled oat >_<
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hey pizzaboy, can you please remove the above post and my post as well. max91 I would like to help but not to the extent of holding your hand with grocery shopping. Open your eyes and look around. Is there only one supermarket in your area ?!

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erm..i juz went to the supermarket...i only see..Instant Oatmeal and Quickcook Oatmeal...is it quickcook oatmeal is rolled oat? cause cant really find a product there writing rolled oat >_<
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I recently just bought rolled oats from a supermarket. I found mine in the organics section. Not near the instant breakfast stuff. No fancy packaging, just a plastic bag that looks like a block of drug and a sticker saying "organic oats (rolled)" Gotta search a little.

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erm..i juz went to the supermarket...i only see..Instant Oatmeal and Quickcook Oatmeal...is it quickcook oatmeal is rolled oat? cause cant really find a product there writing rolled oat >_<
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icic thx..cause i look at instant breakfast there >_<
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hey guys . may i know how do you all count the amount of calories
for " economy rice " ? I use to have a plate of rice with 3 dishes such as pork/chicken , vege and eat for lunch . But i could never determine
the amount of calories and protein . Mind explaining a lil ?
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hey guys . may i know how do you all count the amount of calories
for " economy rice " ? I use to have a plate of rice with 3 dishes such as pork/chicken , vege and eat for lunch . But i could never determine
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worry bout gluten free when you have celiac disease.
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don't ya just love the internet.

to prevent a fright,

yes celiac disease is very real
Celiac is the bodies inability to process gluten. Gluten is typically found in rye, wheat, oats ,barley (basically grains). The disease is hard to diagnose because it masked itself with very common symptoms.

If you feel ill eating oats, stop eating it and consult the doctor.


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A quick shoutout to anyone looking for Milk. Dutch Lady UHT low fat. RM 3.89 per pack of 1 litre. I bought like 12 of them @ Tesco The Curve.

Drink away. Trust me it taste wayy better than a jim beam
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hey ken...any recipes which is suitable for pre and post workout? I mean without supplement..coz i stop taking supplement and my workout dint feel 'syok' ><
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Does whey protein causes allergy such as breathing difficulty?

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hi, just drop by wanna ask sum few question..

1) what is the different between mass gain and weight gain ?

2) i am skinny and i wish to become more BIGGER... what product u all recomend me ?

HELP ME !!!

THx a lot...


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Hi , just drop by wanna ask a fews question.

1) what the different between MASS gain and WEIGHT gain ??

2) i am so skinny and i wish to get a bigger size, so what type of nutrition u suggess me to take? Whey protein ?

Pls Help ME !!! sad.gif

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QUOTE(AhZui @ Dec 22 2009, 07:53 AM)
hi, just drop by wanna ask sum few question..

1) what is the different between mass gain and weight gain ?

2) i am skinny and i wish to become more BIGGER...  what product u all recomend me ?

HELP ME !!!
 
THx a lot...


Added on December 22, 2009, 6:57 am
Hi , just drop by wanna ask a fews question.

1) what the different between MASS gain and WEIGHT gain ??

2) i am so skinny and i wish to get a bigger size, so what type of nutrition u suggess me to take? Whey protein ?

Pls Help ME !!! sad.gif
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The scrambled eggs recipe tastes great, but is dam filling. Had to force myself to finish it today compared to the usual 3 half boiled eggs for breakfast. (With 3 slices of bread and a cup of oatmeal).
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What I like to do with my scrambled eggs is mix in a tin of tuna with 3 or 4 eggs and cook them together. Then a light drizzle of olive oil on them when they're done gives it a nice touch. And it's really filling as well. biggrin.gif
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Ok, I wanna add one tip here - take beef as often as you can up to once or twice a day. Beef is fantastic! Mr Olympia, Jay Cutler swears that he couldn't gain any muscle mass without beef.

And my reaction when I read that was the same as what some of u guys are thinking now, "Ok, beef is great. But not many places sell it. I'll just take eggs or chicken as a substitute." I gained 5kg in 1.5 yrs when I'm in KL.

Then when I came to Singapore to study, Singapore has a beef eating culture, so I tried taking beef & I found out how wrong I was thinking that chicken and eggs could replace beef - I GAINED 5KG IN 2.5 MONTHS!!!!

SO GUYS, TAKE THE EFFORT TO CONSUME BEEF!!

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QUOTE(wildcat90 @ Jan 18 2010, 06:16 PM)
Ok, I wanna add one tip here - take beef as often as you can up to once or twice a day. Beef is fantastic! Mr Olympia, Jay Cutler swears that he couldn't gain any muscle mass without beef.

And my reaction when I read that was the same as what some of u guys are thinking now, "Ok, beef is great. But not many places sell it. I'll just take eggs or chicken as a substitute." I gained 5kg in 1.5 yrs when I'm in KL.

Then when I came to Singapore to study, Singapore has a beef eating culture, so I tried taking beef & I found out how wrong I was thinking that chicken and eggs could replace beef - I GAINED 5KG IN 2.5 MONTHS!!!!

SO GUYS, TAKE THE EFFORT TO CONSUME BEEF!!
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Yeah, beef is better than chicken because it has more creatine in it...
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yeeck, beef's creatine content is minimal. You need to eat a LOT of beef to make up for 5g of creatine. If u are looking for creatine supplementation, I suggest taking creatine monohydrate, CEE, Creatine pyruvate, blah blah etc.
I'd stay with the basic - micronized creatine monohydrate.

Regardless, beef is a great source of protein and good fats. especially the grass fed variant (which can be bought here for cheap)

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beef is great! taste good, easy to prepare.
i`m having ribeye steak twice a day. hehe
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Wow, just bumped into this thread. Ken86, u rawk bro. Thanks for your thread here, I believe you've helped so many peeps out there.

I've got a similar list like yours but lost it when my 2GB went kaput. Lolz.

Last time when I was really into this, I cooked at my workplace 'cause there's a fridge + electrical cooker [ but I hate the cooker 'cause very the leceh to control the temp ].

But then I lost the drive because the fridge only got enough space for me to put a pack of 4 chicken breast, a bottle of milk, and some brocolli + baby carrots [ 'cause the fridge is used for business purposes lolz ].

Ken86, I'm thinking of buying one of those smaller electrical ovens, but the max temp I see is either 300, or 350. How can I cook one of your recipes that require higher temp?

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ken, this thread is a nice mass gaining tips and tricks. How about cutting or losing fat tips and trick ? Or maybe pre contest preperation. For sure many are interested in this.
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would be great if you could include for people who wants to lose weight and burn fat

thanks!
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caloric expenditure > caloric ingested, you lose weight.

Let cardio and diet do the fat burning portion. Continue to train at a high intensity (e.g intensity = % of load, different of intensiveness) Lift intensely - intensiveness and lifting heavier things - intensity.


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good thread. i just noticed. i used to be underweight for the last few years until past few month. but i have 1 problem, to eliminate stubborn fat at my belly. very stubborn one.
i'm 165cm and 60kg now.
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Hi all, I'm underweight and skinny (178cm/56kg). I read first post and feels like mainly taking more raisins to gain weight & mass. Is this a good way?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Jun 17 2010, 11:44 PM)
Hi all, I'm underweight and skinny (178cm/56kg). I read first post and feels like mainly taking more raisins to gain weight & mass. Is this a good way?

Thanks.
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Hey Shinichi,

I think I mentioned walnuts (basically any nuts - almonds, macadamia) with raisins (craisins aka dried cranberry works as well)

Gourmet Nutrition Trail Mix

Simply mix together: 1 part dried cranberries, 2 parts raw cashews, and 2 parts raw almonds.

Nutritional Information, per ½ cup serving:
Calories: 302
Protein: 10 g
Carbs: 16 g
Fiber: 4 g
Fat: 23 g
SFA: 2.7 g
MUFA: 13.4 g
PUFA: 4.9 g
Omega-6: 4.9 g
Omega-3: 0.01 g

Use these as snacks between meals to increase the calories

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Jun 18 2010, 09:39 AM)
Hey Shinichi,

I think I mentioned walnuts (basically any nuts - almonds, macadamia) with raisins (craisins aka dried cranberry works as well)

Gourmet Nutrition Trail Mix

Simply mix together: 1 part dried cranberries, 2 parts raw cashews, and 2 parts raw almonds.

Nutritional Information, per ½ cup serving:
Calories: 302
Protein: 10 g
Carbs: 16 g
Fiber: 4 g
Fat: 23 g
SFA: 2.7 g
MUFA: 13.4 g
PUFA: 4.9 g
Omega-6: 4.9 g
Omega-3: 0.01 g

Use these as snacks between meals to increase the calories
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Thanks ken86.

Any brand for Raisins do you think is good?
As for nuts, walnuts/cashews/almonds is kinda high cost for me. Are those cheap peanuts workable too?

Are calories all we need to gain weight/mass?

Do you mind to recommend me healthy and low cost diet for weight gain?

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made a mistake in my earlier days of gaining weight.
ripped and fill up at the same time which takes me forever to reach my goal. altered program half way.
should've just fill up, then, cut from the start... lesson learned sweat.gif

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hey guys this thread is AWESOME. thanks for sharing! i make banana ice cream once in awhile and its so, so good biggrin.gif yummy....

why dont i share some of my fave recipes too hehe. heres one very basic pancake recipe i learned frm my friend Buda Anchah... i have these for bfast every morning and they're the best thing ever!

1 large scoop vanilla whey (choc works fine too)
5 egg whites
2 yolks
cinnamon (to taste)

break one egg into the whey and whisk it up until the mixture is even... then gradually add more eggs and keep whisking so the batter is smooth and even. then dump everything into a non-stick pan and cook until the edges are slightly crispy. the top should be slightly moist, spongy and fluffy. sprinkle cinnamon and enjoy!
this is just the basic and you can make many variations. if you use alot of eggs it might get very watery so you can add either more protein... or put in some oatmeal. you can add nuts, raisins, bananas etc to it as well and change it up abit! i sometimes have it with a big spoonful of natural peanut butter. i dont need to use any butter or oil whn i cook cos i have a superb non-stick pan... but for those who dont i think there are some pretty good cooking sprays out there... or just use a small amt of butter smile.gif


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I actually make something very similar every morning ! carbless pancakes

12 egg whites or eggs if it matches my macros
1 tbsp of natural psyillium husk
cinnamon
almond essence

blend all and cook it like a pancake (i use macadamia nut oil)

and spread 2 tbsp of all natural peanut butter on top for taste. mmmmmmmmm

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yummy isnt it... lol.... id love to have more peanut butter... if only it wasnt so high in calories and fats.... cals especially. hehehehe.... if not id happily pig out on a whole jar of Adam's!

Oh yeah while we're talking abt PB.... im hving some right now. craaaazy sugar cravings.... PB + whey + lil bit of water + cinnamon + 1 sachel Equal, all mixed up into a thick "sludge". relief!! but gotta cut it out lol. That equal is baaaad

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Found a pretty wicked tuna menu. Plan to try it out XD~

Ingredients:

1 can (7 ounces) tuna
1 small package (3 ounces) cream cheese, at room temperature
1 ripe mashed avocado
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 teaspoon chili powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon Tabasco or similar pepper sauce
1/2 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
2 pints cherry tomatoes
Preparation:

Drain and flake tuna. Cream together cheese and mashed avocado. Add lemon juice, chili powder, salt, pepper sauce, Worcestershire, and tuna. Refrigerate to chill thoroughly. Wash cherry tomatoes and hollow out centers. Turn upside-down and drain well on paper towels. Fill each tomato center with a heaping teaspoonful of tuna and cream cheese mixture.
Makes about 40 to 48 appetizers. Keep in refrigerator until serving time.
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 10 2010, 11:44 PM)
Found a pretty wicked tuna menu. Plan to try it out XD~

Ingredients:

1 can (7 ounces) tuna
1 small package (3 ounces) cream cheese, at room temperature
1 ripe mashed avocado
1 tablespoon lemon juice
1 teaspoon chili powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon Tabasco or similar pepper sauce
1/2 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
2 pints cherry tomatoes
Preparation:

Drain and flake tuna. Cream together cheese and mashed avocado. Add lemon juice, chili powder, salt, pepper sauce, Worcestershire, and tuna. Refrigerate to chill thoroughly. Wash cherry tomatoes and hollow out centers. Turn upside-down and drain well on paper towels. Fill each tomato center with a heaping teaspoonful of tuna and cream cheese mixture.
Makes about 40 to 48 appetizers. Keep in refrigerator until serving time.
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What's the nutritional value on this? Looks good. Would probably take it without the tomatoes tho.
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tuna recipe looks good. im up for anything with cream cheese in it! reminds me of a similar recipe with eggs - whole hard boiled eggs, mayo, black pepper... mash it all up together and eat! yum yum
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 11 2010, 11:37 AM)
What's the nutritional value on this? Looks good. Would probably take it without the tomatoes tho.
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I just found it on some web site, i think i can stuff in 1 can of tuna in 4 hemisphere so.. i guess it should be around +-35g of protein all together with the cream cheese, and no idea on the fat level should be quite high and good for no carbs meal (especially those fat from avocado) XD.

Plan to do it for my prebed meal drool.gif


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QUOTE(LadyVanity @ Jul 11 2010, 06:22 PM)
tuna recipe looks good. im up for anything with cream cheese in it! reminds me of a similar recipe with eggs - whole hard boiled eggs, mayo, black pepper... mash it all up together and eat! yum yum
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I tried egg + mayo + tuna before , half bowl, no go. lol.

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really? haha.... guess mayo really isnt everyone's thing huh. lol. i dont like mayo on its own... i spice it up with things like garlic powder, curry powder, pepper and things like that.

oh i dont like tuna mayo tho. its hard to eat on its own sad.gif eggs and chicken yes but tuna is a big fat BLEARGH.


Added on July 11, 2010, 8:25 pmoh yea, btw ive been critiqued for my diet on another forum... telling me that i shld not be hving cheese cos of the high amount of saturated fats. dont wanna look lean but have arteries clogged to hell. lol. i mean i dont go crazy and scarf off a huge block of the stuff. all my cheeses are portioned for control. one portion of cheese is about 9g fat, 5g of which are saturated fats. practically 0 carb too, thats why i thought it was a great snack to have.

and its said that id be better off having my fat intake frm other sources like extra virgin olive oil, cashews, almonds, PB etc. and then again coconut oil is almost all saturated fats... only difference is that its a medium chain triglyceride.

hurm. your thoughts, please?

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I think most of the time we should be worrying about trans fat right? Tats wat i read last time, anyway, just did a search

http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/04/...t#axzz0tOD6qibn

Last time i tot olive oil was bad too hehe. Some of my fat + protein meal are like..... Roasted skinless chicken breast with melted monzarella and sprinkle with some parmesan and origano XD~ (chicken is spread with butter while in the oven)
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- added raspberry (blueberries, strawberries, black berries can sub instead) sorbet and mango sorbet
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wowwee... are you a trained chef or something? those recipes sure look good! i wish i wasnt dieting!!
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Thanks for the fruity shake recipes Ken biggrin.gif
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Finally tried out the tomato with tuna and cream cheese, not the full ingredient, i dont have the Worcestershire sauce and the pepper sauce, so ... instead i use coarse pepper and 3 huge tomatoes and top with cheddar cheese and roast it in the oven.

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 19 2010, 09:53 PM)
Finally tried out the tomato with tuna and cream cheese, not the full ingredient, i dont have the Worcestershire sauce and the pepper sauce, so ... instead i use coarse pepper and 3 huge tomatoes and top with cheddar cheese and roast it in the oven.

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How'd it taste like?
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aaarrrgghhh damn that looks SOOOO GOOOOOD
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I have GOT to try those!
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 19 2010, 10:37 PM)
How'd it taste like?
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The tuna taste is mild and very cheesy, cant really taste the avocado, can taste the chilli but not spicy and little sourish. Very nice, but still, up to the very last piece the fat content is too strong for me, felt abit "geli" lol.

QUOTE(LadyVanity @ Jul 19 2010, 11:13 PM)
aaarrrgghhh damn that looks SOOOO GOOOOOD
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XD~ , my bro in law saw it and curi one doh.gif

QUOTE(-Dan @ Jul 19 2010, 11:14 PM)
I have GOT to try those!
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hehe, easy to prepare, once u have extract out the middle part of the tomato, still can use them for bolognese sauce XD
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he curi one only... i will run away with d whole plate!!
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I will sniff at a dark corner if u do tat. XD
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- added Tomato and Eggplant Curry and Cauliflower with Egg Sauce - more hidden dietary fibres to aid your bowel or stool or feces to get out of that anus and to balance the sweetness of the dessert recently posted.

LIFT THE FORK !
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bro.. teach me how to gain weight... i'm now 180cm, weight 60kg... i have gone to gym every week twice at least, drinking protein(true mass), but still i seems not gaining any weight...
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Ken, i would like to know wat do u think of starn's carb cycle thinggy, as he consume carbs through out 5/6 meals out of 7 meals (high day high carbs low protein and vice versa) and as christian thibaudeau's cycle is like squeezing that carbs intake in 3 meals in which on high carbs day, the postworkout has like 170 -180g of carb, and i m wondering if thats too aggressive for post workout to spike the insulin and causes fat gain (as 180g of simple carbs) ? And as for starn's diet, throughout the day he consume carbs, so does that mean we will cause unnecessary insulin spike or we just consume low gi carbs to stabilize the sugar lvl ?
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 21 2010, 02:08 PM)
Ken, i would like to know wat do u think of starn's carb cycle thinggy, as he consume carbs through out 5/6 meals out of 7 meals (high day high carbs low protein and vice versa) and as christian thibaudeau's cycle is like squeezing that carbs intake in 3 meals in which on high carbs day, the postworkout has like 170 -180g of carb, and i m wondering if thats too aggressive for post workout to spike the insulin and causes fat gain (as 180g of simple carbs) ?  And as for starn's diet, throughout the day he consume carbs, so does that mean we will cause unnecessary insulin spike or we just consume low gi carbs to stabilize the sugar lvl ?
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high carb days raises body's insulin levels, fill glycogen stores, keep the metabolism revving and stave off muscle catabolism.

No it is not aggressive, it's high carb day man! Carb intake causes insulin secretion, insulin blunts fat loss by deactivating HSL.

If u cycle correctly and you are trying to add some muscle weight, some of it is gonna be fat and all we can do is do ensure minimal fat gain.

Shelby starnes recommends consuming ur carbs early in the day and PWO and spread it out evenly. This works well ESPECIALLY when during a fat loss phase,

picture this

say PWO meal (fat loss phase)

shelby starnes recommends something low GI to appease ur appetite and keep you full longer (you will understand when you are in your final weeks of dieting and staying less hungry / staving off hunger pangs is essential to prevent you from having that extra cookie)

Compare this
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45 grams of protein
60 grams of carbs

and

A similar PWO meal of whey protein + simple carbs in a shaker. Which is more "filling" ? this is all about volumization and this is especially important when u are dieting for fat loss.

When you are bulking and there is a caloric surplus, I'd say both methods works very well.

Ultimately both works, but regular feedings of carbs during high carb day as opposed to a PWO shake of whey + waxy maize starch will be much appeasing.



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QUOTE(ken86 @ Jul 25 2010, 11:58 AM)
high carb days raises body's insulin levels, fill glycogen stores, keep the metabolism revving and stave off muscle catabolism.

No it is not aggressive, it's high carb day man! Carb intake causes insulin secretion, insulin blunts fat loss by deactivating HSL.

If u cycle correctly and you are trying to add some muscle weight, some of it is gonna be fat and all we can do is do ensure minimal fat gain.

Shelby starnes recommends consuming ur carbs early in the day and PWO and spread it out evenly. This works well ESPECIALLY when during a fat loss phase,

picture this

say PWO meal (fat loss phase)

shelby starnes recommends something low GI to appease ur appetite and keep you full longer (you will understand when you are in your final weeks of dieting and staying less hungry / staving off hunger pangs is essential to prevent you from having that extra cookie)

Compare this
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45 grams of protein
60 grams of carbs

and

A similar PWO meal of whey protein + simple carbs in a shaker. Which is more "filling" ? this is all about volumization and this is especially important when u are dieting for fat loss.

When you are bulking and there is a caloric surplus, I'd say both methods works very well.

Ultimately both works, but regular feedings of carbs during high carb day as opposed to a PWO shake of whey + waxy maize starch will be much appeasing.
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Thx for the wonderful explanation. I m currently doing my bulking, so the number of carbs kind of paranoid me for while lol. Now i totally understand, i will readjust my high day with regular carbs intake and the rest of the week (no carbs, medium carbs and low carbs day) with protein + simple carbs. AND with the picture that u have shown, tats totally one kick S PWO. XD Thankx alot buddy.


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QUOTE(Lord Zurg @ Jul 21 2010, 10:47 AM)
bro.. teach me how to gain weight... i'm now 180cm, weight 60kg... i have gone to gym every week twice at least, drinking protein(true mass), but still i seems not gaining any weight...
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hi, just drinking protein is not enough. u need eat solid protein also like chicken breast, eggs. solid foods help u build up solid muscles. i know few body builder * i mean really big one* they tell me they didnt drink protein. for them is useless. what they suggest me is eat 20 eggs white, 1 whole steam chicken or around 800gram steam fish, oatmeal breads, and drink 3 glass of milk or soya per day. That what they eat per day.

i dont want to build up like them so i only eat 5 eggs white, quarter steam chicken or 150 gram steam fish, and drink one glass of milk or soya perday. it work for me. i starting with 52kg 1 year ago and now i 63 kg... yes it a bit slow but at least more solid muscles..
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any suggestion simple, fast, easy and cheap food for mass gaining? :-/
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any suggestion simple, fast, easy and cheap food for mass gaining? :-/
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anything to do with weight gain/loss starts with your diet, not that ONE food tat does it all. so just eat more than you already are eating and make sure you are training enough. meat/rice/vege is enough to get you bigger if u workout and eat enough. read the following quote, its very relevant.

QUOTE(alex84 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:39 PM)
hi, just drinking protein is not enough. u need eat solid protein also like chicken breast, eggs. solid foods help u build up solid muscles. i know few body builder * i mean really big one* they tell me they didnt drink protein. for them is useless. what they suggest me is eat 20 eggs white, 1 whole steam chicken or around 800gram steam fish, oatmeal breads, and drink 3 glass of milk or soya per day. That what they eat per day.

i dont want to build up like them so i only eat 5 eggs white, quarter steam chicken or  150 gram steam fish, and drink one glass of milk or soya perday. it work for me. i starting with 52kg 1 year ago and now i 63 kg... yes it a bit slow but at least more solid muscles..
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in 12 months he gained 11kg of weight, almost 1kg per month, is a reasonable progress. so dude you wanna gain MASS as in muscle mass or just mass? if muscle mass, eat more than enough calories and enough protein and lift weights! just mass... go mcD every meal but i cannot guarantee your health..
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- added almond milk and economic breakdown of it
- added two recipes utilizing cheap almond milk


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bro how much is 1L of almond milk at a store and which stores usually sell?? >< i know kopitiam got la hahaha.

also, 100g of almonds on fitday is about 21.3g protein zomg! that way 100g alone with almond milk should provide quite a fair amount of protein in 1 single shake biggrin.gif
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i remember seeing village grocer selling almond breeze (almond milk) brand and it was about RM 25 per carton.

100g of almonds have significant amounts of fat as well albeit the good for your heart kind. as long as it fit ur macros, why not ?
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Sep 7 2010, 12:35 PM)
i remember seeing village grocer selling almond breeze (almond milk) brand and it was about RM 25 per carton.

100g of almonds have significant amounts of fat as well albeit the good for your heart kind. as long as it fit ur macros, why not ?
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oooh nice. yeah! I like the fact that it has fat, quite tough to get healthy fat in my diet.

gonna try making an almond milk shake for supper biggrin.gif
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what's wrong with eating protein shake instead of solid protein. As long as you eat more than you need, enough protein and train hard, you will gain muscle mass. Or am I missing something ?

For me, solid protein in more expensive compared to whey protein. So in between meal I will take my whey protein. It is cheaper and more convenient .... and you don't look like you always eating when you are working. lol
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15 eggs.

Add lots of cheese.

Heat the pan up with olive oil.

Fry the damn shit out of it. It will be watery at first but dont worry.

Eat that for 1 month and a half. Then let me know if you put on weight.

If you're not eating that, you'rte too skinny.
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Hey guys,i need help for my diet..Can u guys give some comment about how to correct my diet??.My weight is 55kg and height is 171 cm..My goal is to get six packs and lean muscle and to gain my weight till 65kg..Here's my diet:

Morning(5.40a.m)
2 boiled eggs..
oats(5teaspoon)
2 pieces of chicken breast meat.

Recess time(10.45a.m)
Oat meal bread with cheese
Carman's bar

Back from school Lunch(2.30p.m)
Rice with vege and meats
sometimes rice with soup..
sometimes porridge witch chicken breast meat

5p.m (snack)
Horlick or milo.
with some biscuit
sometimes fruits

7pm or 8pm Dinner
rice with vege and meat
and sometimes soup too..

Thanks in advanced
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not enough, take milk before u sleep and during snack time. more eggs.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Sep 23 2010, 05:40 PM)
not enough, take milk before u sleep and during snack time. more eggs.
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should i eat the eggs with the yolks also or just the egg white??Do u guys mind to correct my diet too??see what i can add in..

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sorry i'm new to diet thingy...been reading up the threads for the past 3 hours and now i'm so blur and dizzy T.T i'm 20 , 184cm 70kg [skinnny type] i'm used to drinking 9 type of supplements per day and now i've cut it down to 2-3 supplements and decided to focus more on solid and quality foods for nutritions than depending on supplements.

protein - at least 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
carbs - at least 2 - 3 grams per pound of lean body mass
fats - the remaining calories available

protein = 154 lbs(70kg) x 1.5g = 231g protein
carbs = 154 lbs(70kg) x 2.5g = 385g carbs
fats - ? ? ?

is this what i am supposed to consume perday? and what's the recommended calories intake to keep me in lean shape? i am aiming for lean mass and with 184cm height, is 70kg weight enough for me? or should i gain some weight too?

i may be asking unnecessary and noobs questions but hopefully someone can help me out with this.

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sorry i'm new to diet thingy...been reading up the threads for the past 3 hours and now i'm so blur and dizzy T.T i'm 20 , 184cm 70kg [skinnny type] i'm used to drinking 9 type of supplements per day and now  i've cut it down to 2-3 supplements and decided to focus more on solid  and quality foods for nutritions than depending on supplements.

protein - at least 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
carbs - at least 2 - 3 grams per pound of lean body mass
fats - the remaining calories available

protein = 154 lbs(70kg) x 1.5g = 231g protein
carbs = 154 lbs(70kg) x 2.5g = 385g carbs
fats - ? ? ?

is this what i am supposed to consume perday? and what's the recommended calories intake to keep me in lean shape? i am aiming for lean mass and with 184cm height, is 70kg weight enough for me? or should i gain some weight too?

i may be asking  unnecessary and noobs questions but hopefully someone can help me out with this.
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this shows how much supplement are indeed a "supplement" to aid a good diet and training regime (not having fun at your expense seriously, don't take it wrongly) and at almost the same height as you i am 185cm, you are really underweight. But it's difficult to tell, u can be skinny but have a tummy, the skinny-fat syndrome.

High body fat (15%+) Endomorph = 28-31 calories/kg
High body fat (15%+) Mesomorph = 32-35 calories/kg
High body fat (15%+) Ectomorph = 36-40 calories/kg

Low body fat (14%-) Endomorph = 30-33 calories/kg
Low body fat (14%-) Mesomorph = 34-36 calories/kg
Low body fat (14%-) Ectomorph = 37-40 calories/kg

For example, a 180lb male at 22% body fat who is a mesomorph body type would equal:
180/2.2 = 81.819 Kg x 32-35 calories/kg = ~2,600 – 2,900 calories

You need to determine your baseline calories and work from there. If say after 2 weeks @ 3000 calories, weigh is not moving , then add 200 calories if the scale is going up too fast, reduce calories. it's really that simple but many people fail to grasp this concept because they don;t monitor their intake.

If you are someone who thrives on a high-carb diet, then go for it (though I think you are in the minority). If you are someone who thrives on a low-carb diet, then go for it as well. And, maybe you fit somewhere in the middle like most people, and perform and feel your best on a relatively balanced diet. Just like most things, nutritional preference is a bell curve; the trick is to find where you fit on that continuum.

There is no perfect diet seriously, if it did exist, the world wouldn;t be in this whole obesity jeopardy.

I will point out that protein and fats are essential to optimal health and performance; you can’t live without them! As such, I wouldn’t let either of them fall below 20% of caloric intake.

Carbohydrates, however, can be dropped lower if you are someone who thrives on low-carb or ketogenic diets, but it is certainly not necessary. They can also be raised above that 40% if you are someone, especially an endurance athlete, who performs their best at that level.

I do encourage you minimize refined carbohydrates, sugar and man-made food products, but a slice of cheesecake or a club sandwich with fries once in a while won’t kill you or hinder your progress, either. Smartly building in some splurges will prevent those feelings of deprivation, the ensuing binges, and the guilt that follows it all, without diminishing your results!

I can’t stress enough that this is not a “diet;” it is a lifestyle. Trying to lead a perfect lifestyle is an exercise in futility, and will actually be more stressful and self-defeating than anything else.

Just ditch the supplements and focus ON REAL FOOD

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I hope this answers many questions that everyone have. People are always searching for the quick fix. Beverly Sills said, “There are no shortcuts to any places worth going.” Getting results in the real world isn’t pretty. It isn’t cute. It requires a lot of sweat, hard work, and proper education.

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Alright noted...will try and understand what u're trying to say there... i'm cutting down on supplements and going on REAL FOOD starting today hahah but need sometimes to plan my daily food intake...

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i think i'm Low body fat (14%-) Ectomorph = 37-40 calories/kg

that means i have to take around ~ 2800 calories per day.... * increase if wan to bulk * right?

P/S : What is the normal weight i should have @ 183cm height? i'm 70kg right now sibeh skinny damn jialat T.T

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Alright noted...will try and understand what u're trying to say there... i'm cutting down on supplements and going on REAL FOOD starting today hahah but need sometimes to plan my daily food intake...
i think i'm Low body fat (14%-) Ectomorph = 37-40 calories/kg

that means i have to take around ~ 2800 calories per day.... * increase if wan to bulk * right?

P/S : What is the normal weight i should have @ 183cm height? i'm 70kg right now sibeh skinny damn jialat T.T
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U have a strong base to work with, there's no magical weight at certain height, everyone is unique in terms of musculature and body fat levels. low body fat levels will generally give a leaner/muscular/bigger appearance physique, you can always refer to the fat loss cycle link below to see the difference between a fat ******* and leaner person despite the weigh loss.

Yes start at 2800-3000 calories. then monitor weekly, If u are making good progress then continue with what you are doing and once u stalled increase the calories further. If you are gaining too much fat instead of muscle, reduce the calories instead by 200-300. and repeat the process as many as u want.

Our body is very dynamic and it's always striving for homoeostasis, u just need to find a balance according to your goals and experiment.


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wah lao i'm starting to have proper diet... when to jusco and buy cost me one big bomb in my pocket LMAO... i dunno how much longer can i survive lol...

btw, i got some questions.
i bought the skinless chicken breast... 2 huge breast around RM7~8. what's the nutrition content for one breast? and how do i cook it... i have no experience in cooking @ all lol... my friend say just boil it and eat with soy sauce....but i think it wont taste good man..

Bought some instant oats.....
1/2 cup = 6g protein , 164 calories , 27.5g carbs...
Serving Size (1/2 cup) = how many spoon/ table spoon?

and can i just pour cold goodday milk and mix with oat and drink like that tho the label say need use hot water....
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woww... there lot to consume man.. not only food... but money as well.. but anyway thanks 4 d information
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Hey all, Newbie speaker here.

I need advice for my daily intake to gain weight.

Breakfast:
-Sandwich(Sardin or Butter) + 300ml milo

Lunch:
-Rice + 1 fried egg + chicken drumstick + taufu or any vegetable.

Tea time:
Roti Telur + 325ml milk.

Dinner:
Chicken rice + 1fried egg/fish rich + 1fried egg

Supper:
Chocolate bread + 300ml soya milk.

Go to gym twice a week and play basketball(2 hour) per week.

I continue to eat daily and I'm not again a single kg. What do I miss and what do I need to add to my daily intake ?
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hey where do u find the almond breeze almond milk in malaysia?? issit a dairy product??
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hey where do u find the almond breeze almond milk in malaysia?? issit a dairy product??
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i think i see non-dairy beverage written on the label and it's too expensive to buy almond breeze in malaysia. U can always try to make your own.


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Hey all, Newbie speaker here.

I need advice for my daily intake to gain weight.

Breakfast:
-Sandwich(Sardin or Butter) + 300ml milo

Lunch:
-Rice + 1 fried egg + chicken drumstick + taufu or any vegetable.

Tea time:
Roti Telur + 325ml milk.

Dinner:
Chicken rice + 1fried egg/fish rich + 1fried egg

Supper:
Chocolate bread + 300ml soya milk.

Go to gym twice a week and play basketball(2 hour) per week.

I continue to eat daily and I'm not again a single kg. What do I miss and what do I need to add to my daily intake ?
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you are eating the same daily and not gaining any weight, isn't that a good indication to eat MORE ?

for instance
5 - 7 eggs and bacon for your sandwich (you can toast them if u like) and ditch the milo

or maybe fcuk the roti telur and eat some eggs /chicken/beef

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 1 2010, 12:12 PM)
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i think i see non-dairy beverage written on the label and it's too expensive to buy almond breeze in malaysia. U can always try to make your own.


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you are eating the same daily and not gaining any weight, isn't that a good indication to eat MORE ?

for instance
5 - 7 eggs and bacon for your sandwich (you can toast them if u like) and ditch the milo

or maybe fcuk the roti telur and eat some eggs /chicken/beef
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Too bad I can't eat beef. I started to Eng Nasi Lemak + Fried Chicken/McD Chicken for my tea time at least 4 times a week. But as a result pimple pop out on my face and backside. doh.gif


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Too bad I can't eat beef. I started to Eng Nasi Lemak + Fried Chicken/McD Chicken for my tea time at least 4 times a week. But as a result pimple pop out on my face and backside.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 1 2010, 12:12 PM)


for instance
5 - 7 eggs and bacon for your sandwich (you can toast them if u like) and ditch the milo


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5-7 eggs just for breakfast? how bout the other meals? 1 egg consists 6gram of protein, means maximum 42g of protein for one meal?

now here my question, im 177 and 60kg (132lb) , 132g of protein for daily consumption

my meals plan
breakfast
2 white half boiled eggs+ ON serious mass 1 scoop 8oz mix with dutch lady fullcream milk 3 tablespoon +tuna with 2 slices of gardenia bread and some fresh vege+1 banana

lunch
chicken breast 80g+ whatever my mom cooks+3 boiled potatoes

tea time
dutch lady full cream milk

pre-workout
ON 100% whey gold standard 1 scoop+3 tablespoon dutch lady fullcream

post-workout
on 100% whey gold standard 1 scoop

dinner
2 half boiled white eggs+ whatever my mom cooks

supper
ON serious mass 1 scoop 8oz with 3 tablespoon dutch lady milk

shud i take more eggs in my meal plan? or what shud i add in or exclude to gain more masses since im only 60 kg(very skinny)
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5-7 eggs just for breakfast? how bout the other meals? 1 egg consists 6gram of protein, means maximum 42g of protein for one meal?

now here my question, im 177 and 60kg (132lb) , 132g of protein for daily consumption

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the additional eggs are just recommendation, of course the other meals gotta reflect the necessary changes as well- more protein more good fats

U are really underweight, it's okay to push the protein consumption to 1.5g-2g per lb of bodyweight and let the others (carbs and fats) take care of itself after establishing your baseline calories needs

some ways to establish (please note this may not be exactly accurate but it presents a good start to work with)

the quick method

Use this formula for a personalize ballpark estimate. use the lower number for lightly active, the middle number for moderately active and well higher for very active

Muscle Gain
16-18 calories per lb. of BW

Maintenance
14-16 calories per lb. of BW

Fat loss
12-14 calories per lb. of BW

or

The harris benedict formula

or

The Kathe-McCardle Formula

U gotta do some work and google the last two if u are interested. Ultimately just pick one and stick with it, if u r not seeing weight gain +250 calories every week from the baseline.

and I don't really understand the whole idea of Mass Gainer ??

Say ON serious MASS

12lbs Chocolate
Serving Size: 2 Heaping Scoops (334g)
Servings Per Container: 16

for RM 230 for 16 servings ?!

Each serving yield a paltry 50g of protein, 252g of carbs in the form maltodextrin, 4.5g fat.

Any generic whey protein brand for 10lbs cost about 270 - 330 =approx 160 servings of 22 - 24 g of protein. M i missing the math here ?!!!

U can add your carbs or follow the (1,111 calorie shake) i posted or if u want more ideas for home made mass gainer , let me know and i will post more.

I hope this clears out most questions for gaining weight
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 2 2010, 02:11 PM)
the additional eggs are just recommendation, of course the other meals gotta reflect the necessary changes as well-  more protein more good fats

U are really underweight, it's okay to push the protein consumption to 1.5g-2g per lb of bodyweight and let the others (carbs and fats) take care of itself after establishing your baseline calories needs

some ways to establish (please note this may not be exactly accurate but it presents a good start to work with)

the quick method

Use this formula for a personalize ballpark estimate. use the lower number for lightly active, the middle number for moderately active and well higher for very active

Muscle Gain
16-18 calories per lb. of BW

Maintenance
14-16 calories per lb. of BW

Fat loss
12-14 calories per lb. of BW

or

The harris benedict formula

or

The Kathe-McCardle Formula

U gotta do some work and google the last two if u are interested. Ultimately just pick one and stick with it, if u r not seeing weight gain +250 calories every week from the baseline.

and I don't really understand the whole idea of Mass Gainer ??

Say ON serious MASS

12lbs Chocolate
Serving Size: 2 Heaping Scoops (334g)
Servings Per Container: 16

for RM 230 for 16 servings ?!

Each serving yield a paltry 50g of protein, 252g of carbs in the form maltodextrin, 4.5g fat.

Any generic whey protein brand for 10lbs cost about 270 - 330 =approx 160 servings of 22 - 24 g of protein. M i missing the math here ?!!!

U can add your carbs or follow the (1,111 calorie shake) i posted or if u want more ideas for home made mass gainer , let me know and i will post more.

I hope this clears out most questions for gaining weight
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actually im dono well bout serious mass too.. 2 heaping scoops are way too much for me, 24oz equals to 4 cups. after drinking it cant consume more food. so i take 1 scoop in the morning and for workout day i take 1 scoop in the morning and before bed..
btw, can i take 100% whey as daily consumption 1 scoop a day instead of taking it for pre-workout and post-workout during workout days only?
give me more mass gainer recipe which is convenient and easily to find pls.. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 1 2010, 12:12 PM)
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i think i see non-dairy beverage written on the label and it's too expensive to buy almond breeze in malaysia. U can always try to make your own.


Added on November 1, 2010, 12:14 pm

you are eating the same daily and not gaining any weight, isn't that a good indication to eat MORE ?

for instance
5 - 7 eggs and bacon for your sandwich (you can toast them if u like) and ditch the milo

or maybe fcuk the roti telur and eat some eggs /chicken/beef
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erm then which place got sell this product?? ask in cold storage in 1 utama say no sell ?? which place got ??

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Excellent advice as always ken86.
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nice article, lots of details. Any articles on how to get lean-muscle mass?
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I use to take lots of weight gainer, but end out all the fat grow on my back, tummy and surprisingly on my ass also..Now i decided just to take whey protein though i am slightly underweight. BTW one question, it is true that egg yolk suitable for body builder? cause some article claims that egg yolk contain bad fat.. it is really confusing.
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QUOTE(cywong89 @ Nov 20 2010, 01:32 AM)
I use to take lots of weight gainer, but end out all the fat grow on my back, tummy and surprisingly on my ass also..Now i decided just to take whey protein though i am slightly underweight. BTW one question, it is true that egg yolk suitable for body builder? cause some article claims that egg yolk contain bad fat.. it is really confusing.
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Eat more protein and fat if you wanna gain muscles. Eat more protein, more fat and less carb if you wanna gain muscles and lose fats at the same time.

About a year ago, a customer came to me for advice. He was a plump guy who had been training for a couple of years. He had been on calorie counting diets and his waist was still the same at 36" and weighed 190lbs.
I told him to forget about calorie counting.

My diet for him was

Breakfast
6 whole eggs, fried with butter
1 small tomato and a few slices of cucumber.

Lunch.
2 whole chicken thigh with skin
3 tablespoon cooked rolled oats plus 2-3 tablespoons of oil

Tea.
60g of whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil and 1 green apple.

Post workout
80g whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil.

Dinner.
300g of fish plus lots of vege plus 3 tablespoons oil.

Before bed.
40g of whey protein.

Less protein on rest days.

He trains and diets consistently for about a year. He now weighs 185lbs and waistline is 32". He gains muscles mass and lose fats at the same time while on low carb diet. If I calculate his calorie intake, his new diet has more calories than his former due to more fats intake.

Note.
No insulin spike in his diet. He was still able to gain muscles without insulin spike.
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I have just finished my low carb diet and back eating toasts and weet bix for breakkies and pre workouts, still pre low carb considering that I only take carbs during breakfasts and pre workouts, 6-7 meals a day with a rough estimation of 2000cal per day with the intention of clean bulking, I've gained 1.5kgs(Mostly fats) in 2 weeks. FECK!!!! tongue.gif

And an annoying bugger in my gym kept asking me to buy True Mass or any other supplements from him, I told him about my body and he's still insistent, if you are here, listen, why should I take 600 extra calories if I can get those easily from real food, and I don't take sugars anymore except for post or intra workout.

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Eat more protein and fat if you wanna gain muscles. Eat more protein, more fat and less carb if you wanna gain muscles and lose fats at the same time.

About a year ago, a customer came to me for advice. He was a plump guy who had been training for a couple of years. He had been on calorie counting diets and his waist was still the same at 36" and weighed 190lbs.
I told him to forget about calorie counting.

My diet for him was

Breakfast
6 whole eggs, fried with butter
1 small tomato and a few slices of cucumber.

Lunch.
2 whole chicken thigh with skin
3 tablespoon cooked rolled oats plus 2-3 tablespoons of oil

Tea.
60g of whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil and 1 green apple.

Post workout
80g whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil.

Dinner.
300g of fish plus lots of vege plus 3 tablespoons oil.

Before bed.
40g of whey protein.

Less protein on rest days.

He trains and diets consistently for about a year. He now weighs 185lbs and waistline is 32". He gains muscles mass and lose fats at the same time while on low carb diet. If I calculate his calorie intake, his new diet has more calories than his former due to more fats intake.

Note.
No insulin spike in his diet. He was still able to gain muscles without insulin spike.
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this is a great basic template for a keto(<50g of carbs)/paleo and good to see I m not the only one that thinks coconut oil is so awesome. A few studies does show BCAA helps the secretion of insulin and hence it's value pre,peri and post workout

but in the end

If you are someone who thrives on a high-carb diet, then go for it (though I think you are in the minority). If you are someone who thrives on a low-carb diet, then go for it as well. And, maybe you fit somewhere in the middle like most people, and perform and feel your best on a relatively balanced diet. Just like most things, nutritional preference is a bell curve; the trick is to find where you fit on that continuum.


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Excellent advice as always ken86.
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nice article, lots of details. Any articles on how to get lean-muscle mass?
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everything mentioned here is aiming at gaining lean muscle mass and of course that slight fat gain is inevitable even if u are diligent about it.


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I use to take lots of weight gainer, but end out all the fat grow on my back, tummy and surprisingly on my ass also..Now i decided just to take whey protein though i am slightly underweight. BTW one question, it is true that egg yolk suitable for body builder? cause some article claims that egg yolk contain bad fat.. it is really confusing.
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seriously egg yolk is good for you

http://www.tonygentilcore.com/2010/02/what...figure-skating/

everything u need to know is inside.

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It wasn't a keto diet, Ken. The carb is more than 50g, a low carb diet. Nobody can last long on keto diet. Carb is too additive. Protein does spike up insulin but not as much as carbs.

Coconut oil is one of the best oils around and tastes jolly good too. Great for frying your eggs.

The low carb diet is designed for someone wanting to gain muscles and lose fats at the same time and it is not for skinny fellas.
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Nov 23 2010, 03:52 PM)
It wasn't a keto diet, Ken. The carb is more than 50g, a low carb diet. Nobody can last long on keto diet. Carb is too additive. Protein does spike up insulin but not as much as carbs.

Coconut oil is one of the best oils around and tastes jolly good too. Great for frying your eggs.

The low carb diet is designed for someone wanting to gain muscles and lose fats at the same time and it is not for skinny fellas.
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if you want to fry your eggs? what kind of oil did you use bro? and why?


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if you want to fry your eggs? what kind of oil did you use bro? and why?
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Nov 23 2010, 04:52 PM)
It wasn't a keto diet, Ken. The carb is more than 50g, a low carb diet. Nobody can last long on keto diet. Carb is too additive. Protein does spike up insulin but not as much as carbs.

Coconut oil is one of the best oils around and tastes jolly good too. Great for frying your eggs.

The low carb diet is designed for someone wanting to gain muscles and lose fats at the same time and it is not for skinny fellas.
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Can the coconut oil been replace by fish oil?
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Can the coconut oil been replace by fish oil?
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Kinda stupid right? He's talking about using it to fry eggs with and you're asking if it can be replaced using fish oil.....? Yuck!
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Kinda stupid right? He's talking about using it to fry eggs with and you're asking if it can be replaced using fish oil.....? Yuck!
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"80g whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil."
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QUOTE(arekey @ Nov 24 2010, 07:36 PM)
I'm refering to this statement
"80g whey protein +2 tablespoon coconut oil."
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Hmmm.... actually I am curious how frying eggs with fish oil will taste like. Anyone willing to experiment?
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Hmmm.... actually I am curious how frying eggs with fish oil will taste like. Anyone willing to experiment?
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Nov 23 2010, 03:52 PM)
It wasn't a keto diet, Ken. The carb is more than 50g, a low carb diet. Nobody can last long on keto diet. Carb is too additive. Protein does spike up insulin but not as much as carbs.

Coconut oil is one of the best oils around and tastes jolly good too. Great for frying your eggs.

The low carb diet is designed for someone wanting to gain muscles and lose fats at the same time and it is not for skinny fellas.
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hmmm

1 small tomato and a few slices of cucumber =7 g of carbs

tomato
~100g

Total Carbs = 4g

cucumber
1 cup sliced (119g)
Total Carbs = 3g


3 tablespoon cooked rolled oats

1/3 cup of uncooked rolled oats (27g) = 19g of carbs
1 tbsp of uncooked rolled oats = 5g

plus cooking it expands it hence increasing its volume in the spoon and it's overall weight

so let's say 15g of net carbs

1 green apple

about 110-120g = 14g of net carbs

lots of vege

let's say the denser mini tree - Broccoli, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt = 7g carbs

7 + 15 + 14 + 7 ~= 43g of carbs okay say 50g of carbs with miscellaneous carbs from the whey

all figures are from www.nutritiondata.com

Additionally, from the standpoint of rapidly depleting liver glycogen, the more that carbohydrates are restricted during the first days of a ketogenic diet, the faster ketosis will occur and the deeper the degree of ketonemia. When examining the diet studies, any diet with more than 100 grams of carbohydrates is considered to be non-ketogenic (often called a ‘balanced’ diet) while any diet with less than 100 grams of carbohydrates is ketogenic (2).

from lyle mcdonald's ketogenic diet book and 2. Phinney S. Exercise during and after very-low-calorie dieting. Am J Clin Nutr (1992) 56: 190S-194S

again it also depends on dan duchaine's ketogenic model of <30g carbs or also known as SKD (standard ketogenic diet)

or maybe targeted ketogenic diet (TKD) or cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD) with slightly higher carb requirement pending on activity levels and various factors.

regardless these are all just small details and let's focus on the bigger picture. If u are fat ******* and wants to lose some weight, find something that swings your way with a caloric deficit. Some individuals handle carbs well and some don't. trying is key.

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http://chetday.com/eggyolk.htm
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http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cholesterol/HQ00608

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forget bout this video.Darklight have 12 full eggs per day.
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Hi there, i'm currently 58kgs, 176cm tall.

Thing is, I work out a lot, at least 3-4 times a week, 1.5hours per session.

I'll do deadlifts, squats, back, arms, legs - Alternating 2-3 types only per session.

I have trouble gaining weight, although I'm seeing physical improvement because I have been working out for about 8 months now.

Weight gained from 54kgs to about 58 now. I was at 60kgs a few weeks back, but fell sick due to dengue.

Would appreciate if you could help me with my diet. I am lactose intolerant, so no dairy products for me, no cheese, no milk, no yogurt and stuff like that. I also don't eat beef.

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QUOTE(Seager @ Feb 14 2011, 02:05 PM)
Hi there, i'm currently 58kgs, 176cm tall.

Thing is, I work out a lot, at least 3-4 times a week, 1.5hours per session.

I'll do deadlifts, squats, back, arms, legs - Alternating 2-3 types only per session.

I have trouble gaining weight, although I'm seeing physical improvement because I have been working out for about 8 months now.

Weight gained from 54kgs to about 58 now. I was at 60kgs a few weeks back, but fell sick due to dengue.

Would appreciate if you could help me with my diet. I am lactose intolerant, so no dairy products for me, no cheese, no milk, no yogurt and stuff like that. I also don't eat beef.

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How is your current diet like?

You can always get lactase pills if you're lactose intolerant. That's if you're willing to spend about 100 bucks a month.

Doesn't matter if you can't take beef. Eggs and chicken breast are rich in protein.


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ok guys I need ur advice. I'm 21 and I only weight 42kg. my waistline is only 25 (yes im super thin) and i'm trying to gain weight but hard. im taking serious mass as my protien as I only use dumbell as my only work out equipement. my breakfast normally consist of just bread with peanut butter and milk (as above) or sometimes roti canai and tosai. what should I do or fix to my plan?
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ May 2 2011, 01:03 AM)
ok guys I need ur advice. I'm 21 and I only weight 42kg. my waistline is only 25 (yes im super thin) and i'm trying to gain weight but hard. im taking serious mass as my protien as I only use dumbell as my only work out equipement. my breakfast normally consist of just bread with peanut butter and milk (as above) or sometimes roti canai and tosai. what should I do or fix to my plan?
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Heylow all sifu here,


I'm an ordinary college student, Weight 53kg, 175cm height, 19 years old.

I was born as fat baby, but getting thinner and thinner as age grows. Recently I moving to a new condo and it has awesome GYM facilities. Plus this whole semester is pretty "senang" as only few subjects to cover.

Now I have time, nice GYM, mamak stall, McD nearby. I want to gain muscle and weight ?

But how to start ?

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nice 1...I combine experts diet in my weekly diet...normally work day more carbs less fat and rest day/cardio day more fat less carbs, my diet also includes 1 day(30 hours) fast...in progress! I also cheat about every 2 weeks! I'm middle distance runner, I always add some functional training such as uphill/downhill sprinting, drills, isometric and plyometric training
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what's the difference between eating almonds and drinking almond milk?
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Hi,

I'm new in BB.

I'm 24, 179cm height, 79 kgs. Am i considered overweight?

I feel that i look tiny everytime i go to the gym. Do i need to gain more weight to look bigger?

I'm really confused with all the information here. So many jargon eventhough i read through 10 pages and googling at the same time.

Please help me!

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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 05:44 PM)
So i guess u save all your money and don't eat at all everyday ? Of course it cost a little more compared to what you are getting at chap fan stalls or hawker stalls. And hawker food are sugar laden , oil infused and it ain't cheap. It's normally comprised of simple carbs and keeps you even hungrier. Just a food for thought.
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Your score is 2.25.

Your body is closest to a Mesomorph. You have a naturally fit body but to maintain it or improve it you should exercise and diet correctly for your type. Strength training can be done more often and for longer sessions then would be good for an Ectomorph, but you must still be carefull not to overdo it. You should train with moderate to heavy weighs and at a moderate pace, not resting too long between sets. You will find you gain muscle quite easy (some women and even men might not want to get too bulky, but this won't happen suddenly. When you are happy with your muscle size simply train to maintain it). Stick to a good healthy diet to keep you lean and muscular, and watch for any slow creeping fat gains. Engage in and enjoy aerobic activities, sports, etc. but do not overdo.


im 169cm
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how much should i eat every day?
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not 100% sure abt how to make chicken breast soft, but normally marinate it with lime/lemon juice and it can become soft.
yogurt also can
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all sifus,do take a look at my diet and c if it is ok..

9am : noodles with an egg and 100g chicken breast and multivitamins. / 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white(with chicken breast)
12pm : starfruit juices with 100g chicken breast
3pm : 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white
3.45pm : 250ml water with glucose 2 tablespoon.
4pm : workout
7pm : 100g chicken breast with rice,some veges and plain soup.
10pm : HL with oats.

now im having a hard time of cooking a healthy chicken breast except by steaming it with mushroom,half tbs of oyster sauce and some ginger..im looking on another way to cook more variety of healthy meal which consist of protein but didnt hit my calories that much. i dont have any oven...

im 73kg with 177cm btw..on top is pretty much my diet and i need to change it b4 i get boring..
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anyone can correct me?im into my work place normal basic gym..b4 i hit the weights i'll run for 15mins and may target is to hit 2km on the treadmill wit speed average 7.0 to max 8.0..later wil do some ab workout
b4 go into the weights..
Day 1-chest and triceps
Day 2-back and biceps
Day 3-shoulder and legs and next day wil back to day 1 schedule and so on and sometimes wil include forearm if im stil have gas left in the tank and fyi im not into any protein supplement..just have my normal meals and rice only in the lunch..also into HL milk and some green peas wit egg..this is what im doing and normally if im tired i wil skip and replace it next day..currently im 75kg and 1.69m..ive been told my ideal weight 72kg..im not into bulking just hope to get some shape and stay fit..any comments about my workout,i really appreciate and do correct me if im missing something..really appreciate..Tq
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Jul 16 2011, 11:06 PM)
all sifus,do take a look at my diet and c if it is ok..

9am : noodles with an egg and 100g chicken breast and multivitamins. / 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white(with chicken breast)
12pm : starfruit juices with 100g chicken breast
3pm : 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white
3.45pm : 250ml water with glucose 2 tablespoon.
4pm : workout
7pm : 100g chicken breast with rice,some veges and plain soup.
10pm : HL with oats.

now im having a hard time of cooking a healthy chicken breast except by steaming it with mushroom,half tbs of oyster sauce and some ginger..im looking on another way to cook more variety of healthy meal which consist of protein but didnt hit my calories that much. i dont have any oven...

im 73kg with 177cm btw..on top is pretty much my diet and i need to change it b4 i get boring..
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u got non-stick frying pan?
try mincing the chicken breast into burger patty...
thn saute it till cooked....
taste well....


Added on August 10, 2011, 9:08 pmIf you don't mind carbs...
can eat wif whole meal bread or pita bread thn add cheese or eggs to flavour it up...

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ May 16 2011, 11:12 PM)
Heylow all sifu here,
I'm an ordinary college student, Weight 53kg, 175cm height, 19 years old.

I was born as fat baby, but getting thinner and thinner as age grows. Recently I moving to a new condo and it has awesome GYM facilities. Plus this whole semester is pretty "senang" as only few subjects to cover.

Now I have time, nice GYM, mamak stall, McD nearby. I want to gain muscle and weight ?

But how to start ?
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mamak, mcd is a no no...
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My problem is my appetite, I can't even eat 2 packs of instant noodles without feeling like vomiting all of them back.

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My problem is my appetite, I can't even eat 2 packs of instant noodles without feeling like vomiting all of them back.

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I believe u have some other favorite food, you can't have any of them in big portions?
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That's a problem of satiety. Probably there's articles online on how to deal with that and gaining weight.
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QUOTE(Aying @ Jun 15 2011, 06:17 AM)
Hi,

I'm new in BB.

I'm 24, 179cm height, 79 kgs. Am i considered overweight?

I feel that i look tiny everytime i go to the gym. Do i need to gain more weight to look bigger?

I'm really confused with all the information here. So many jargon eventhough i read through 10 pages and googling at the same time.

Please help me!
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i don't think 79kgs is alot of weight for you to consider overweight especially with that height... there's probably more bodyfat than muscle mass... just remember a simple fact... input>output=muscles... (providing that you're on a correct diet and a proper workout program)
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high scores protein food: parmesan 35.76 to 41.6

high score protein vegetable : Nori seaweed, dried sheets: 36.24


source : Protein food wiki

anyone know what recipe ideal for tiz food?

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QUOTE(Nur Amina @ Aug 28 2011, 06:07 PM)
high scores protein food: parmesan 35.76 to 41.6

high score protein vegetable : Nori seaweed, dried sheets: 36.24
source : Protein food wiki

anyone know what recipe ideal for tiz food?
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Pizza with parmesan cheese with nori seaweed toppings!

Wait, that does not sound good
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To ken86's first post here on making your own almond milk,

I believe soaking almonds is necessary to remove/neutralize the tannins and more importantly, phytic acid content.

However, there are two concerns that I have:
1. Just by soaking with plain water, how does that remove the phytic acid? Do we need to add some other agents, e.g. salt, or baking soda? Some even say slightly acidic water as this will activate the enzymes to neutralize the phytic acid.
2. Currently most almonds that are being sold, even if labelled as raw, are already pasteurized. Is soaking with plain water of any help here? Do the almonds even contain any enzymes already?


Added on September 13, 2011, 12:18 pmFound this to be useful, at least some extra details, though not entirely complete & straightforward

http://wss.nourishingconnections.org/Educa...f%20Soaking.pdf

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Better add some salt/baking soda to kill any crawlies/germs in them. Some not so fresh almonds though not expired i noticed has powders at the bottom of packaging, close look revealed small moving things. now i only buy my nuts at bake with yen.
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Sep 16 2011, 11:49 PM)
Better add some salt/baking soda to kill any crawlies/germs in them. Some not so fresh almonds though not expired i noticed has powders at the bottom of packaging, close look revealed small moving things. now i only buy my nuts at bake with yen.
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I think apple cidar vinegar is used for killing germs instead.
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Just had my home made almond milk just now.

Tastes great, only when chilled though. Very refreshing taste and texture.

Before trying I thought it would taste like the dreadful almond milk premix sachets, but surprising, not at all.

The taste is almost the same as eating em almonds, just a much lighter/blander version as it's in liquid form.

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What you will need for making 1 litre of almond milk
- Blender
- Filter bag/nut milk bag
- Clean bottle for storage
- Sieve

- 1 cup of almonds
- Boiled/purified water
- 1 tsp salt

Process (to make 1 litre of almond milk with 1 cup of almonds)

1. Pour about 500ml clean, boiled/purified water (room temp) into a big bowl
2. Pour in the almonds and soak approx. 20 minutes
3. Remove the almonds from the bowl
4. Discard the water and pour in 1 litre of boiled/purified water (room temp)
5. Dissolve 1 teaspoon of salt with a little hot water and mix into the bowl of water
6. Add in the almonds and soak for 9 - 12 hours.
7. Drain the water, shake the almonds in the sieve till they're relatively dry
8. Pour 4 cups (950ml) of boiled/purified water into the blender and blend the almonds for approximately 1 minute on medium speed till fine.
9. Pour the almond milk through the filter bag and squeeze the bag so that you won't be wasting any milk.
10. Store in the fridge, consume within 48 hours.

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Nutrition facts of almond milk

1 cup of whole almonds (143g)
822 calories
31g carbs, 30g protein, 71g fats (7% saturated, 62% monounsaturated, 24% polyunsaturated fats primarily in the form of omega 6 fatty acids)

Therefore one cup (240ml) of almond milk provides approximately (240ml/1000ml)
200 calories
7.4g carbs, 7.2g protein, 17.4g fats

Vitamins and Minerals content
I'm only listing the highest ones
1 cup of almond milk will lead to fulfilling %DV (percentage of recommended daily requirements)
Vitamin E - 44.88%
Riboflavin - 20.40%
Manganese - 39.12%
Magnesium - 23.04%
Phosphorus - 16.56%
Calcium - 9.12% < Same amount or more than cow's milk. currently checking bioavailibility comparison, will update!
Iron - 7.2%
Copper - 17%

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QUOTE(entryman @ Sep 22 2011, 10:26 AM)
Just had my home made almond milk just now.

Tastes great, only when chilled though. Very refreshing taste and texture.

Before trying I thought it would taste like the dreadful almond milk premix sachets, but surprising, not at all.

The taste is almost the same as eating em almonds, just a much lighter/blander version as it's in liquid form.

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What you will need for making 1 litre of almond milk
- Blender
- Filter bag/nut milk bag
- Clean bottle for storage
- Sieve

- 1 cup of almonds
- Boiled/purified water
- 1 tsp salt

FYI, this is what Indian uses as part of 'first night' ritual drink brows.gif rclxms.gif
but its added with Cardamom and Saffron as well.

Thanks for sharing mate, good energetic drink! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 2 2011, 01:29 AM)
FYI, this is what Indian uses as part of 'first night' ritual drink  brows.gif    rclxms.gif
but its added with Cardamom and Saffron as well.

Thanks for sharing mate, good energetic drink!  thumbup.gif
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Hey guys,

I,m 21 this year.

190cm
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I really wanna gain weight.

Does consuming weight gainer helps? Without working out. nod.gif

Some people recommended me ON Serious Mass 12lbs - RM180
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QUOTE(dealer.merchant @ Jan 13 2012, 06:20 PM)
Hey guys,

I,m 21 this year.

190cm
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cry.gif

I really wanna gain weight. 

Does consuming weight gainer helps? Without working out.  nod.gif

Some people recommended me ON Serious Mass 12lbs - RM180
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Are you schizophrenic? Using all the silly emoticons? EAt more natural food.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jan 13 2012, 06:24 PM)
Are you schizophrenic? Using all the silly emoticons? EAt more natural food.
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How did you know? cry.gif

Thanks! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dealer.merchant @ Jan 13 2012, 06:20 PM)
Hey guys,

I,m 21 this year.

190cm
65kg

cry.gif

I really wanna gain weight. 

Does consuming weight gainer helps? Without working out.  nod.gif

Some people recommended me ON Serious Mass 12lbs - RM180
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hey schizo, wrong section. the people here work out.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jan 13 2012, 11:37 PM)
hey schizo, wrong section. the people here work out.
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 09:17 AM)
Since I m on a lean mass gaining phase

Generally, a good starting point will be multiplying your lean body weight x 15 and add 500 - 1000 calories to that. You'll have to experiment with this. If u have a crazy-ass metabolism (ectomorphs not skinny fat people) you probably want to start at 500-1000 calories over maintenance. If you have a slow metabolism (LIKE ME !!!) you would want to start at about ~500 calories over predicted maintenance. You'll have to experiment this smile.gif take weekly pictures and show it to the world !!!

protein - at least 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
carbs - at least 2 - 3 grams per pound of lean body mass
fats - the remaining calories available

Healthy, but Delectable Recipes

now for my favourite breakfast mass gaining shake
(1,111 calorie shake)

Ingredients
12 oz low fat milk (HL? MARIGOLD?)
1 scoop of Whey (Optimum nutrition 100%, Scivation)
1 Low carb yoghurt ( read the labels )
1 banana (medium sized, maybe longer than your WIENER biggrin.gif)
2 tbsp of mixed nuts (I use walnuts and almond mix)
1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil
1/2 cup of Dry oats
2 Splenda / Equal Packets (Optional)

BLEND AND DOWN IT LIKE A MAN

another goodie
Low-Fat Fruit Smoothie

2 Scoops of Whey - Strawberry / Vanilla
Strawberries or Blueberries (Blueberries are expensive over here, Use strawberries instead)
1 big banana
1 cup of instant, non-flavored oatmeal
8 ounces of light yogurt
2 cups of low fat milk
Calories: 850
Protein: 70 grams

Smooth Strawberry Dream
Ingrediets
1 cup plain 2%/non-fat Greek yogurt
1 cup fresh or frozen strawberries
3 tbsp organic coconut milk
1-2 tbsp flax seeds - optional
1 scoop vanilla or strawberry protein powder - optional
splenda if required
ice cubes
Here are the Nutrition Facts for the Smoothie in its original form: Calories 335  Fat 16.5 grams  Carbs 22.5 grams  Fiber 4 grams  Protein 24 grams.

For modified version with optional ingredients - the protein and flax seeds: Calories 524  Fat 22 grams  Carbs 34.5 grams  Fiber 10 grams  Protein 47 grams.

The original form has no so called dietary supplements (eg. whey protein which is a bane for some, for reasons I cannot fathom as well). It taste great and a well balanced meal. enjoy

Banana "Ice Cream"

Looking for some guilt free carb source to fuel your workouts, look no further !
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Here is probably the easiest recipe you will ever find and surprisingly tasty. 

Ingredients

- 2 bananas (frozen)

- Vanilla Essence

There is a couple of ways you could make this – either  puree then freeze or do what i did which was chuck a couple of bananas (peeled) which were about to go black into the freezer, then throw them in the food processor and blend with the vanilla until smooth and creamy – surprisingly not unlike ice-cream.  Depending on how soft/cold you want it, you can either get straight into it or pop it back in the freezer for a while.  The other way to do it would be to puree the fresh bananas then freeze the puree, tho I suspect it would freeze solid and you would have to puree again to regain the creamy texture.

Raspberry sorbet
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Ingredients
1 ½ cups raspberries
½ cup light coconut milk
1 egg white, beaten to soft peaks
½ medium banana
1 tbs honey
1 tbs lemon juice

Instructions
Blend raspberries, coconut milk, banana, lemon juice and honey in a blender on high speed until creamy.

Gently fold raspberry mixture into the beaten egg white. Pour mixture into an ice-cream container/ freezer proof container and freeze for 6 hours or overnight until set.

To serve, cut into slices and scoop it with a spoon. Can be done with blueberries or strawberries or whatever berries that swing your way.

Mango sorbet
Ingredients
1 cup diced mango pieces, frozen
2/3 cup of light coconut milk

Instructions
Blend frozen mango pieces and coconut milk in a blender on high speed until creamy and smooth. serve

Tasty Cold Oatmeal
- Base
1.Blend up a scoop or two of protein powder with water and pour it over some Old Fashioned/Rolled Quaker Oats (or whatever brand, dun be so rigid !). Now, add some frozen berries (optional), 'I buy strawberries and freeze them'

2.Let it sit for 3-4 minutes in the fridge before chowing down

You can always tweak this recipe  say if you use vanilla flavour protein, a hint of cinammon and some pan seared banana slices (use a lil butter to cook it).

or
1. In the base above, replace water with milk and put a little peanut butter as u blend it. Pour over your oats, sprinkle some toasted almond flakes(buy them from the supermarket and toast it in an over at 150C  ) or sunflower seeds or toasted chopped walnuts
2. Let it sit for 3-4 minutes before consuming.

HEALTHY & GUILT FREE NESCAFE ICE
1/2 scoop low carb vanilla protein powder
3/4 cup cold brewed coffee (nescafe or whatever brand that works for u)
4 ice cubes
1/2 cup cold water
4 packets of Equal (optional)
1/2 tsp cocoa to shake things up (I use heinz unsweetened cocoa powder/ possible substitute - if u r not strict on diet can be any chocolate powder (cadbury perhaps?)
My normal main meals where I cooked on sunday and sliced it accordingly

Lean Meatloaf

1 pound 96% Lean Beef
1/4 cup onion,diced
1/2 large green pepper,diced
2 egg whites,beaten
1/4 cup oatmeal
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
8oz reduced sodium tomato sauce

Pepper to taste

Preheat over 350degrees. Mix meat,vegetables,eggs,garlic powder,oatmeal and half of the tomato sauce together in medium sized bowl. Spoon mixture into an 8x8 square baking pan or bread loaf pan sprayed with nonstick cooking spray. Top loaf with remaining tomato sauce and bake for approximately 50 minutes. Makes 4 large slices. (you can put it in a muffin tray, and make some anabolic MEAT MUFFINS !!!!, baking time varies depending on size)

Supplement Facts:
per serving

Calories-172
Carbs-9g
Protein-23g
Fat-5g
Fiber-2g

Rosemary Balsamic Chicken

3 boneless skinless chicken breasts
1 tablespoon rosemary (fresh preferred)
3 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon pepper

When you get home, rinse off the chicken breasts, then throw them in the bag with everything else. Mix it up a little, and let it sit in the fridge for at least two hours to marinate.

To cook, preheat your over to 400 degrees, throw the chicken and stuff into a baking dish, cover it, and let it cook in the oven for 25 minutes, or until the meat reaches 165 degrees. If you don't have a "meat thermometer", separate it with a fork.

I cooked these in big batches. 4kgs at a time, go ahead, laugh , I don't care.

Nutrition Facts:
6 oz of breast = 45g of protein (the spices/condiments are calorie free ! the wonders of knowing your way in the kitchen)
Asian Chicken and Broccoli Stirfry
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Ingredients
8oz 97% lean ground chicken or turkey or beef (can be precooked and shred it when you need em')
2 cups chopped broccoli
1 cup chopped mushrooms
1 tbsp Sesame Oil
1.5 tbsp reduced-sodium soy sauce
garlic powder to taste
ginger powder to taste
Directions
Brown turkey on med to medium high heat (you can go higher if using stainless steel or cast iron cooking pan, for non stick I would stay there) in the sesame oil and soy sauce. Once meat is approximately halfway cooked, add in broccoli and mushrooms and stir. Sprinkle on powders and stir some more until evenly distributed. Enjoy.
There you go. Another delicious and easy recipe. If you want more carbs with it (especially post training), serve hot with rice!
Crispy "Fried" Chicken

2 pounds boneless, skinless chicken breast halves
1/4 cup whole wheat flour
1/2 cup unprocessed bran flakes (optional)
4 egg whites, beaten
1 teaspoon fresh ground pepper
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1 teaspoon parsley
1/2 teaspoon salt
Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Combine all dry ingredients in large bowl and mix well. Dip chicken in egg whites and the coat both sides by dipping them in dry mixture. Dip them again if desired and spray both sides with nonstick cooking spray. Bake chicken in a shallow baking dish for about 30 minutes or until coating and insides of breast are no longer pink.

Taste great and highly palatable ! Give it a honest try u kitchen noobs !

Tuna Melt Patties

1 6oz can tuna in WATER, drained
1 egg, beaten
2 tablespoons oatmeal
2 tablespoons onions, diced
(or 1/4 teaspoon onion powder)
1/4 teaspooon garlic powder
2 tablespoons reduced fat mozzarella / Cheddar

Mix all ingredients except cheese together in a small bowl. Heat a small nonstick frying pan over medium heat and spray with nonstick cooking spray. Make to small patties by spooning half the tuna mixture into each side of the pan and lightly pressing with a fork to flatten into a patty. Cook until both sides are brown. Top with on tablespoon cheese and serve.

For everyone that complains bout plain tuna

"Cocoa-Nut Milk Shake"
2 scoops chocolate protein powder
1 scoop cocoa powder
1 tbsp cinnamon
1/2 cup coconut milk
1/2 cup water
5 ice cubes
Place ingredients into blender for 30 seconds.

not your usual shake but taste like a dream

The Orgasmatron

Ingredients; 
80g (1 cup) rolled oats 
1 large banana 
2 scoops Optimum Nutrition 100% whey, chocolate flavour 
1 tablespoon honey 
1.5 cups 2% fat milk3) Preparation; 
Put 2 scoops of ON chocolate whey into the shaker bottle (must go in first) 
Add 80g of oats 
Chop up the large banana into small slices and add to the shaker bottle 
Add a tablespoon of honey 
Pour in the 1.5 cups of milk 
The trick is NOT to blend this, add the ingredients into the shaker bottle, put the cap on, and shake it, this means that the ingredients mix but the oats and banana slices remain relatively in tact. 

Once the ingredients are all mixed up, add water until you reach the desired consistency. Once you?re happy that the shake is mixed and has enough water simply drink the sweet, chocolate, milky liquid. Once you?ve drunk the liquid get a spoon and eat the rest like a cereal. 
a. 903 calories 
b. 71g protein 
c. 120g carbohydrates 
d. 11g fibre 
e. ? 
f. 17g fat 
i. 7g saturated 
ii. 6g monounsaturated 
iii. 3g polyunsaturated 

This shake is absoloutely ideal for either breakfast or preworkout, it packs a huge number of calories and provides enough protein/carbs to fuel your workout and recovery or kick start your metabolism after the overnight fast. 

good ol' scrambled eggs

Ingredients:

4 Omega-3 enriched local eggs
2% Milk
Butter
Sea Salt
Black Pepper - Those whole black pepper in pepper grinder variant not the pre-grind shit, they taste like smoke ash
Cooking pan
Rubber spatula - This took me a year to figure out and it's the key to some damn good scrambled eggs. Don't be like my unenlightened friends and use one of those burger-flipper spatulas. They're too large and clumsy. You need something svelte, small, and easy to maneuver.

Make the perfect scrambled eggs

1. Crack your eggs against the lip of the bowl and use your thumbs to pull the egg apart. Make sure not to get any shell in the mixture. And keep the yolks! If I find one more person who only cooks with egg whites I'm going to poke him numerous times with my egg-soaked fork and hope he gets salmonella.

2. Heat your nonstick pan on medium heat for a minute or so and toss a teaspoon of butter into the pan.

3. While your pan is heating, pour a little bit of milk into the egg mixture. I'm not sure exactly how much because I've never measured it. My guess is about two tablespoons.

4. Take your fork and beat the hell out of the egg and milk mixture using quick wrist flicks. Your wrist should be moving like you're using one of those old pencil sharpeners that you have to crank with your hand. Make sure to some air into the bowl as it'll make the eggs fluffier. Beat for 30 seconds or so.

5. Making sure the butter is melted and the pan is hot pour the mixture into the pan. You should hear a slight sizzle.

6. Let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute and then take your rubber spatula and start "scrambling" the eggs by pushing the cooked stuff off the bottom and letting the runny yellow part directly onto the pan.

7. After a couple of minutes of scrambling, you should have some nice, fluffy, yellowy-white eggs. I like to pull mine off the stove top before I see any brown spots on the eggs.

8. Dash some salt and pepper on your eggs and eat! Oh, and make sure you complement your eggs with turkey sausage, whole-wheat toast, or some fresh fruit on the side.

Nutritional Facts :
28g of protein, 20g of fat (the good kind), virtually no carbs

Try it a few times and play around with how much milk you add and how long you leave it on the stove top.

these takes way less than 10 minutes to prepare and cook. stop whining.

Home-made Protein Bars

Ingredients
Peanut Butter – 1 cup
Oats – ½ Cup
Protein Powder (preferably chocolate or vanilla) – ¼ cup
Honey - optional
All measurements are approximate since I usually just mix until it looks good.
Optional
o Raisins
o Nuts – pecans, almond, walnuts, cashew, or make a trail mix !
o Dark chocolate pieces – sugar free variant
Instructions
Mix all ingredients. The protein powder will take some of the “tackiness” off of the peanut butter and honey. The mix should not be crumbling. If it is, add another spoonful of PB. If it is too wet add some more oats.
Stick it the mixture between two sheets of wax paper and refrigerate for at least 25 minutes.
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Home-made Protein Bars (Fortified version for the skinnies)

Ingredients

2 1/2 c. (200 g) oats
1 scoop (30 g) whey powder (use chocolate flavor)
2 tbsp. natural peanut butter
3 large egg whites
2 medium bananas (300 g), mashed
1 tbsp. honey
7 tbsp. (approx. 100 ml) non-fat milk or low fat milk
1 tsp. cinnamon

Instructions

Preheat your oven for 5 minutes at 375oF. Mix the oats, the whey and the cinnamon. Add the peanut butter and stir in thoroughly. Add the egg whites, mashed bananas and the honey. Add the non-fat/low fat milk slowly, while mixing thoroughly.
Spoon the mixture into a greased lined cake tin and level with a knife. Place in oven and bake for 15 minutes. Remove from oven and allow to cool slightly before cutting to reduce stickiness. Cut into 8 bars.

Alternatively, just refrigerate them and eat it straight if you don’t have an oven in home.

NUTRITION INFORMATION
Calories (Per Serving): 154
Protein 9.5g
Carbohydrates 21.3g
Fat 3.4g

Tomato and Eggplant Curry
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prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients
. 1 medium eggplant
. 1 large tomato
. 2 Tbsp olive oil
. 1/4 C coconut milk
. 1/2 C chicken broth
. 1 tsp curry powder
. 2 Tbsp sesame seeds
. 2 cloves garlic
. Fresh basil
. 5 oz cooked and diced chicken

Cut the tomato and eggplant into small pieces, then saute them in a large saucepan with the olive oil and curry powder. Saute them until they are soft and begin to break down. Add the remaining ingredients and simmer for 3-4 more minutes. Enjoy!

If you can find Thai fish sauce and red curry paste, these can be added as well and will really enhance the taste.

This meal is high protein, high fat and low carbs - perfect for anytime meals

Cauliflower with Egg Sauce

prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients

. 1 head of cauliflower
. 2 tbsp olive oil
. 2/3 C minced sweet onion
. 2 tbsp ground walnuts or almonds
. 2 hard boiled eggs, chopped finely
. 1/4 C fresh parsley or dill Pepper to taste

Boil the cauliflower florets. In a skillet, saute the onions in the olive oil until soft and brown. Stir in the ground nuts, eggs, parsley or dill, and pepper. Toss lightly until blended. Place the cauliflower in a dish, then pour the sauce over it. This can make a great 5 block meal at X5 fat with the addition of a little lean protein - grilled chicken, beef etcetra.

ALMOND MILK
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Use 1 cup of almonds for approximately 1ltr of Almond Milk. one cup almond = approx. < 250g of almonds = 4 x 250ml of almond milk and no it's not expensive at all. 1kg almonds ranges from RM 10 - 20. 20 /4 = RM 5 for 1 ltr almond milk (breakdown)

Directions : -
• Soak 1 cup of almonds overnight (or for a minimum of 6hours). Overnight soaking is the better way to prepare the almonds as more tannins and phytic acids are removed, ultimately enhancing digestibility of the almond milk.

• Place the almonds in a blender along with 3‐4cups of water (you do not need to remove the skins). Blend the almonds for 1minute.

• Sweetener is not necessary especially if fresh almonds are used. If it is desired, however, adding 3‐8 dates or a tablespoon of honey within the blending process will add a hint of sweetness to the almond milk.

• Strain milk through a nut milk bag or a couple of layers of cheese cloth into a bowl or through a sieve (this may result in a little bit of almond fiber in the milk but will sit to the bottom of your jug/cup).

• Keep in an air‐tight container/jug for up to 4‐5days in the refrigerator.

Commercial preparations of almond milk do not have the desired amount of almond nutrients, as pasteurization and other manufacturing processes take their toll on nutrient content. Besides, almond milk has a shelf life of only 4‐5 days, so commercially available almond milk has to add more water and is laced with sugar and preservatives to prolong shelf life. In addition, vitamin E is no longer present and only a few hundred milligrams of essential fatty acids (especially omega‐3 and omega‐6) are left in shop‐bought almond milk.

Almond milk is very nutritious. Each cup (approximately 100g) of raw almonds converted into almond milk is good for 4 servings, and each serving roughly provides 105.3 calories, 4g of protein (or 16g per 100g of almond), 3.6g of carbohydrate, 1.9g of fiber, 23mg of calcium, 5.1mg of sodium, and 9.2g of total fat of which only 0.7g is saturated fat (the 8.5g of unsaturated fat is 92.4% of total fat)

Apple and Almond Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
½ cup diced green apple (skin removed)
½ tsp natural vanilla essence
2 scoop of protein powder - vanilla

Place ingredients into a blender and blend for 1min.

Nut Crunch Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
2 ice cubes
1 tbs almond butter
½ tsp cinnamon
1 tbs crushed nuts
2 scoops of protein powder - chocolate or whatever swings your way

Place all ingredients except for the crushed nuts into a blender and bend for 1min. Once poured into a glass, sprinkle top with crushednuts

Marinades - New Section
All Purpose Marinade
1/4 cup olive oil
2 tablespoons of balsamic vinegar
2 tablespoons of whole grain mustard
1 teaspoon of onion powder
1 teaspoon of garlic powder
1 teaspoon of oregano
1 teaspoon of thyme
1 teaspoon of rosemary
Salt and pepper
Approved 'Clean' Foods - Wanna gain some lean mass, then starting eating Whole 'Clean' Foods, ditch the junk

Proteins
 Chicken Breast
 Egg Whites
 Lean Beef
 Lean Fish
 Low-Fat Dairy products
 Protein Powder
 Turkey Breast
Carbohydrates
 Amaranth
 Beans
 Brown Rice Tortillas
 Fruit
 Oats
 Pasta
 Quinoa
 Potatoes
 Rice
Vegetables
 Asparagus
 Bell Peppers
 Bok Choy
 Broccoli
 Carrots
 Cauliflower
 Celery
 Cucumbers
 Green Beans
 Lettuce
 Onions
 Spinach
 Squash
 Tomatoes
Fats
 Avocado
 Cheese
 Whole Omega 3 Eggs
 Hummus
 Nuts
 Oils
 Olives

Short tip of eating clean - try to eat foods that take lesser 'STEPS' to prepared.

Simple tips

If you are still struggling to gain weight
Tip 1 - Graze Healthily - Still whining about not being able to eat enough? Geez. Okay, try this: throw two servings of dried fruit (I like RAISINS the best) into a sandwich bag with two servings of omega-3 rich walnuts. That's about 12 dates and a half cup of shelled walnuts.

Place these in your car, your desk at work, or your locker at school. Snack at will. Consume the whole bag in one day and you'll have ingested an easy 640 healthy calories. Have one bag a day and you'll get over 4400 extra calories per week, all from healthy fruits and nuts.

Tip 2 - Olive oil shooters - Get a shooter glass and down it 2 - 3 times a day (use it sparingly unless you are a pure ectomorph, clearly I m not one so I don';t use it)

Tip 3 - Essentials -

Raw nuts. They're cheap, healthy, and portable.  They also pack some healthy fats and a little protein — the type of calories that aren't likely to end up on your waistline.

Canned tuna and salmon. Great sources of protein that are also convenient and portable.

Fruits and veggies. You can't eat enough of these. The ones in the store are fine, but the ones you pick up at the local farmer's market are even better (and probably organic as well).

Rolled oats Nothing fancy, but a great source of fiber and slow-digesting carbs. Avoid the instant packets. Buy the store brand if you need to save some money. Look for just one ingredient on the label: whole rolled oats.

So you will never run out of food and give excuses to F***ing binge.

Tip 4 - Eat Clean 90% of the time, follow John Berardi's 90% Rule say I eat 42 meals a week (6 meals a day) I have the privilege of eating 4 meals of whatever I want (keep in moderation please)

Tip 5 - Eat lean protein with every meal,  Get most of your carbs in the morning, take your fish oils

Tip 6 - Rest and Recover - Contrast Bath, Self Myofascial Release using a FOAM ROLLER / PVC Pipe , Hiring Pizzaboy to loosen you out, Soft tissue work with golf ball/tennis ball (piriformis, rotator cuffs, peroneals, calves, etc)

Tip 7 - Do your conditioning - Don't wanna turn in tub of fat lard , do the conditioning drills shown below

Tip 8 - MILK is NOT the best food product for lean mass gain but perfect for weight gaining. Lactose is just not a good carb source, not to mention many people are allergic to it. Casein and whey are exceptional protein sources though, but get them on their own without the fat and lactose found in milk.

Tip 9 - Drink Ample Water - It's essential to stay hydrated as muscle tissues are 75% water and blood is over 90% water. A rule of thumb would be 0.6 ounces of water for every pound of BW. Eg. a 200 lbs male would drink 120 ounces, 3.5 litres water a day.

Tip 10 - Prepare your meal in advance - When you are not prepared, you are at the mercy of what's available at restaurants, hawker stalls , etc.

'An hour in the kitchen' - Sunday Meal Prep Ritual

*Boiling pot of water, used for steaming one batch after another of a variety of fresh veg (for example, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, chard, spinach, brussels sprouts, asparagus).

*In the oven, I'll be cooking yams in a glass dish with water (I use yams as my starch of choice for fueling my endurance training!), along with some plain chicken breast, perhaps, or maybe some fresh black cod or salmon...

*I might also prepare a marinade to use on some grass-fed skirt steak, after I've tenderized it with a mallet; using extra virgin olive oil, fresh garlic, lime juice cilantro and a dash of cayenne pepper (as long as one is not following the AI plan, this is acceptable).

*I may also create a marinade for some chicken- perhaps a pesto using basil, garlic, walnuts, pine nuts,
lemon and olive oil.

*I'd wash whole fruit (apples, oranges, pears, peaches, grapes, and so on).

*After everything is cool, store in small, portable containers that you will be able to grab in a flash en route to the office or school when you're rushing out the door in the morning! Be sure to place in each container- some protein, some healthy unprocessed carbohydrate (fruit/veg) and some good fat (avocado, flax, olive oil) etc..


Nutrition Tips for the Busy

Here’s a collection of tips to help you “get your eat on” in a healthy and inexpensive manner without having to devote hours of your day to food preparation.
At home
Start off your mornings with a blender shake consisting of dry oats, a protein powder blend, and some healthy fats like walnuts or flaxseed oil. Prepare the shake “dry” at night by putting all the ingredients in a Tupperware container. In the morning, all you’ll have to do is put some ice and water in the blender, dump in the contents of the container, and blend for about thirty seconds. This way you can prepare and consume your first meal of the day in just a few minutes.
Prepare all your meals on one day of the week. Choose a day when you’re not very busy, like Sunday, to cook all your meats, vegetables rice, and other items. Divide what you prepare into meals that you can
freeze in separate containers. Each night before you go to bed, take out what you need for the following day and let it thaw overnight in the
fridge. This might sound like a lot of work at first, but after a couple of weeks, it will become part of your regular routine.
On the road
Keep your car and office stocked with items like tuna pouches, a sleeve of rice cakes, bottled water, some protein meal replacement packets, or canisters of nuts.
Didn’t pack any food? Stop at a supermarket instead of a fast food joint. Most supermarkets have salad bars, sushi, and other healthy options.
Most fast food restaurants now offer a healthy menu. Choose items like chicken salads, chicken wraps, and baked potatoes. Deli-style fast food restaurants where you can get a turkey or chicken sub on whole wheat bread are other good options.
In the office
Pack a lunch. Not only will this save you money, but you’ll also have complete control over what you eat each day.
At a business lunch? Most restaurants should have a healthy choice like a chicken salad (skip the dressing), a piece of fish, or baked/broiled chicken with some steamed vegetables. Ask to have any sauces or condiments put on the side.
Not enough time for a meal at work? Keep a couple of pre-made protein shakes (a couple scoops of protein powder, some oats, and some calorie-free sweetener) in plastic shaker bottles at your desk or in your toolbox.In less than thirty seconds, you can add water and consume the entire “meal.” These emergency meals will also come in handy if you ever have to work an extra long shift and don’t have anything else prepared.
The first step to success is making a firm commitment to a healthy diet. Once that’s done, solutions with arise on their own. With a little bit of planning and determination, even the busiest schedule will be no obstacle to sound nutrition.
Zig zagging your calories -  the basic premise is to reduce calories on non training days'
The idea is similar to carb cycling - I m sure everyone heard of carb cycling, I use exclusively the rules from Shelby Starnes after consulting him many times
MEN

High day

Carbs: 2-3 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1-1.25 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.5-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.15-0.35 grams per pound of body weight

WOMEN
High Day

Carbs: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.75 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.2-0.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.1-0.2 grams per pound of body weight

Sample for a 250 lb male
High Day


Meal 1 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 2 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 3 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 4 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 5 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 6 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 7 : same

Low to Moderate Day
Meal 1 : 60g protein, 80g carbs
meal 2 : 60g protein, 50g carbs, 5g fat
Meal 3 : 60g protein, 10g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 4 : 60g protein, 80g carbs (or whenever postworkout)
Meal 5 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 6 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables

Carb cycling is a wonderful plan as you can do it both ways - more high days and less low days for lean mass gain and less high days more low days for weight loss.
You need to experiment this or post your diet if you wanna try carb cycling.

I personally used high, med, low days. For now, 1 high day on monday, other training days are med days, and remaining days are low days. I will monitor my progress and add more high days. Some weeks I feel flat , I would add a SUPER HIGH DAY 1000g of carbs to replenish my glycogen and to jump start my metabolism.

Glycemic Index

Question: Should I be concerned with the glycemic index of carbs?

Answer: I get asked bout this a lot, seriously GI is not rocket science. Although I think it's silly to base an entire diet book on glycemic index alone, it is still something that should be considered.

To get everyone up to speed, the glycemic index (G.I.) is a measure of how quickly a carbohydrate ends up as glucose in the bloodstream. Simple (typically more sugary) carbs are digested very rapidly and have a high G.I. This results in significant amounts of glucose flooding the bloodstream at once. Complex carbs, on the other hand, are in essence time released and are characterized as having a low G.I. This is much better as it results in fewer ups and downs in both energy and appetite. However, consuming carbohydrates with other foods like protein, fibrous carbs, and fat slows the digestion of the carbs in that meal. Therefore, the glycemic index of the carbohydrate itself becomes slightly less important. Although the glycemic index is something that you should keep in the back of your mind, eating natural, unprocessed carbs is a far more important consideration. Bananas and white potatoes, for example, have a fairly high glycemic index but are still good nutrient dense foods that are perfectly fine to consume on a fairly regular basis, especially if you consume them with protein and fibrous carbs
(vegetables) as you should be doing anyway.

Let me put it this way: if the worst thing you do is eat carrots, bananas, and potatoes... you will do just fine! best time to put your carbs (excluding non-fibrous carbs especially like cruciferous vegetables) is breakfast and postworkout.

carbs is your friend , use it to your advantage, don't be a carb phobic !
Conditioning & Energy system training (also called cardio) -

You wanna gain some mass with minimal fat gain, do SOME CONDITIONING DRILLS !

Plate/Car pushes
An exercise mat, and some plates, you can accomplish this excellent conditioning exercise. Place a mat (or towel) on the ground, put plates on the mat, push. It’s that simple. or just push your CAR

Try 60 yards for five rounds with 60 seconds rest between rounds. It’s a great place to start.

Wrestler’s circuit
This is a wrestling coach’s circuit, and I found it very effective. Aim to use 70–80 percent of your competition weight (the top of your weight class). This is going to take you anywhere from 1.5–2 minutes to complete

A 185-lb fighter could use 135 lbs to start with:

Clean X 5
Romanian deadlift X 5
Front squat X 5
Overhead press X 5
Clean X 5


Perform with as minimal transition time between exercises as possible. 

Legal eagle drill
I found a fitness qualifications manual for the RCMP or Canadian Army as some standards for their applicants. You can customize this to your own nation’s requirements. It’s just simply something to play with, and it’s very customizable. I’d recommend throwing it in every so often and testing to see where you’re at. Once you beat the standards, make it more difficult.


2.5 Kms/1.5 mile run, 11 minutes minimum, 9 minutes is ideal
40+ push-ups
40+ sit-ups
5+ full ROM pull-ups

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Add blast straps (I made my own blast straps using chains and D-handles, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANNA KNOW HOW), a weight vest, the incline on a treadmill, or weighted pull-ups to increase the difficulty level.

Barbell complexes
These are familiar to everyone by now thanks to Alywn’s infamous articles. Here is an example:


Deadlift
Romanian deadlift
Shrug
Clean
Upright row
Overhead press
Back squat
Row

You can literally create any combinations that you dream of. Rep ranges are dependent on you, but it is recommended that you stick between 6–8 reps. The rule is keep the bar moving quickly. A simple method is to perform one round, add weight, and perform again for time. Here’s an example:


Circuit one

R1: Start with the barbell.
R2: Add 10 lbs to the bar (55 lbs).
R3: Add another 10 lbs to the bar (65 lbs).
R4: Remove 10 lbs (55 lbs).
R5: Just use the bar.

Rest periods can last from 30–60 seconds.

Louie’s Olympic “tri-plex”
This is a simple Olympic lift complex where a single lift is performed in each of the three exercises. Then you rest for 30 seconds. Start each rep with your knees on the floor to help build up explosive power in the hips


High pull
Clean
Clean and press


When working with Kevin Randleman, Louie is rumored to have used this circuit to build up Kevin’s amazing explosive speed and strength. Mind you, Kevin used 200 lbs. Start slowly and work your way up in both time and weight.

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Added on November 12, 2009, 9:19 amMust Read article from John Romano. (to all everyone that has been asking what supplement works and all, DIET AND TRAINING IS YOUR BEST SUPPLEMENT !!)

The most commonly asked question I ever get is, "does ____work?" I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been asked that question by a guy looking for the answer. From this or that supplement; to this or that drug; to this or that training method; high-carb or low-carb; high intensity, low intensity; for every possible machination of bodybuilding, someone has asked me for my opinion. Do I look like I know? I'm only five-nine, 205! I just like to train. So, for the most part, I really don't care if the subtle nuances in this great big thing we practice make that much of a difference. I just do what I like and whatever doesn't aggravate my injuries. After 35years it's not going to make that much difference to me anyway. And since it doesn't matter to me, I've been five-nine, 205, for a really long time. I'm, actually, quite happy staying right here in the groove that works for me. While weighing 260 might look pretty cool on my frame, I have no desire to do so. That's not to say I never did...

At some point in my mid-20s, I got up to a little over 230 and couldn't stand it. I was always walking around with my mouth open, glazed in sweat and wheezing like an old Ford with a leaky head gasket. I had a gallon jug of water in one hand and cooler in the other, and if either got below a quarter full while I was stuck in traffic, I began to panic. A "real job" was totally out of the question, so my income was derived by a smattering of various activities, half of them illicit, and none of them more than five miles from Gold's. Had my stellar genetics gone any higher than my knees, perhaps I would have chased this endeavor a bit further, but, in this business, being smarter than you look has its advantages.

So, here I am, steeped in physical mediocrity, albeit through jaundiced eyes. While anyone who has this much time in the iron game has it all over the average Joe, I'll never look in the mirror and see it that way; not with guys like Jay Cutler running around at my height and outweighing me by 100 pounds. And I really don't care anymore. Yet, because of where I am, what I've done, and who I know, I still get the questions about drugs, supplements and training from guys who look at a guy like Cutler and can't possibly begin to imagine the magnitude of what they‘re looking at.

I really can't blame anyone for being so in-awe and yet so lost. With so much bullshit to waddle through, I don't even know why anyone would put their magazine down and head out to the gym. Science, science, science.... Who gives a f*** about science? Anyone who does looks like they do. Jay Cutler doesn't give a rat's ass about science. Only the stringy little geeks do. What matters is what works in the real world - in the gym, and on contest day. University studies are for wimps because empirical knowledge trumps science every time. So, inevitably, you guys turn to us for the truth. And when you do, you get such a cold dose of reality that I sometimes think some people might feel better being lied to. There are enough illegal performance-enhancing drugs out there to grow hair on the Statue of Liberty. Then there are the legal ones,: pro-hormones, supplements, meal replacements, protein powders, training regimens and diet philosophies, all geared to building muscle and burning fat. No one could possibly do all of them, so they inevitably ask: "Does ____ work?"

In all the years I've been in this business, that question was only answered once to my satisfaction by anyone meaty enough to do so- Mike Matarazzo. His answer, "Everything works, but nothing works all the time," was his answer, and it has been my mantra since he uttered it. It's perhaps the single greatest truth in bodybuilding. Hence, it's in your better interest for me to answer the question, "does ____ work?" by telling you, "maybe." I say this regardless of whatever it is, because if I, or anyone else, tells you "yes," you're likely to give lesser credence to the only two things that work all the time in favor of something that might work some of the time.

What two things work all the time? Eating and training! True, this site would be awfully small and we'd have no advertisers if that's all there was to it, but until you have those two things dialed in, you're wasting your time, money and energy on anything else. I see too many guys who put the weight down after 10 reps and head to Denny‘s, and then wonder why, after a year, they only have 12-inch arms and no abs. Then, frustrated, their solution is to come to me and ask for a stack to put on mass. As comical as that may sound to some of you, to many of you it may well be a revelation. Ferocious training intensity and spot-on nutrition are 95 percent of the game. The other five percent can't possibly make up for it-no matter what it is. So go eat and go to the gym. Do that first, then start asking about what works. Intensity and consistency will always be the best medicine.
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hi there, i need some help wit my chest n arm. can u giv me some advice on how my chest n arm can gain mass. if it can look bigger is also good. thnx.
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hi there, i need some help wit my chest n arm. can u giv me some advice on how my chest n arm can gain mass. if it can look bigger is also good. thnx.
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If i were you, I would try increase mass on whole body parts and not just chest and arm.
It takes times to gain mass as you need consistency in doing heavy lifts, eat enough of protein, supplements and most importantly get enough rest.
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which training to do if i am satisfied with my size and jsut want to increase density & cuttings only? I read on BB web that to gain density is to gain weight with lower reps... aint that goign to boost size as well?

what about like I get a moderate weight and hit till failure say 50 or 100 reps? its where you can do it, the weight is no big deal, just that the pain is killing you.
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If you want to look cut, decrease your body fat. Simple as that. Doing insanely high reps does not give you 'cuts' contrary to popular belief and will do you no good. Muscles need to be overloaded to be stimulated properly. That means heavy weight.
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what about long run, e.g. my 4-5days gym per week... to maintain, increase strength,density & cut without size...
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QUOTE(Awakened_Angel @ Mar 3 2012, 02:19 PM)
which training to do if i am satisfied with my size and jsut want to increase density & cuttings only? I read on BB web that to gain density is to gain weight with lower reps... aint that goign to boost size as well?

what about like I get a moderate weight and hit till failure say 50 or 100 reps? its where you can do it, the weight is no big deal, just that the pain is killing you.
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Low carb hi protein diet to gain muscles size + definition. 12-8 reps is the best all rounder. To get quality muscles, it takes time. To gain fat and bulky is pretty fast. You must learn how to distinguish between muscles and fat. Most people gain fats to look big.
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Mar 7 2012, 04:00 PM)
Low carb hi protein diet to gain muscles size + definition.  12-8 reps is the best all rounder. To get quality muscles, it takes time. To gain fat and bulky is pretty fast. You must learn how to distinguish between muscles and fat. Most people gain fats to look big.
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thanks.. for the past few weeks, I notice my arms grew a bit, but not my chest etc...
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should I stop cardio if i want to gain bulk?
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should I stop cardio if i want to gain bulk?
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You don't need to stop doing cardio, just cut down your sessions or up your caloric intake to compensate.
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like how much should I increase?
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increase around 300 to 700kcal a day.

The amount is up to you. You can eat more to bulk faster, but your gains will contain more fat than muscle. Then you have to repeat a few more cycle of bulking and cutting.

You can do it slower rate but longer time, then you gain less fat, but this process might take you months or years.

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You can do it slower rate but longer time, then you gain less fat, but this process might take you months or years.
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Then for a skinny guy who wanna look big, what's the method on training? Sorry for the noob ques as i'm a newcomer.
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i oreadi start my training in gym back now. oreadi a week. but i just train by my self. without a trainer. using dumbbell, cycling and others machine. so just asking, do i need a proper trainer to training me and gain muscle and at the same time gain weight and get good body shaping ?? or just buy the dumbbell for ladies then workout at home ?? if i wanna use some machine, then i will go to the gym. that gym is free under my campus.

which one more proper and serious to gain muscle etc OR just buy the dumbbell ?? but i dunno how to workout properly. at the same time im taking real mass. and im a thin lady too. just wanna gain some muscle, get shaping and weight. not to be hardcore bodybuilder.

im currently not working now. just finished my degree last week.

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i oreadi start my training in gym back now. oreadi a week. but i just train by my self. without a trainer. using dumbbell, cycling and others machine. so just asking, do i need a proper trainer to training me and gain muscle and at the same time gain weight and get good body shaping ?? or just buy the dumbbell for ladies then workout at home ?? if i wanna use some machine, then i will go to the gym. that gym is free under my campus.

which one more proper and serious to gain muscle etc OR just buy the dumbbell ?? but i dunno how to workout properly.  at the same time im taking real mass. and im a thin lady too. just wanna gain some muscle, get shaping and weight. not to be hardcore bodybuilder.

im currently not working now. just finished my degree last week.
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Simple rules for mass gaining

1.Eat more (medium size meal containing 50% carbs,25% protein and 25% vegies) try to eat every 2-3 hours..
2.Do compund exercise using fairly heavy weights
3.get enough rest for muscle recovery.

PM me if u need to ask anything smile.gif
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QUOTE(IjatKuchai @ May 24 2012, 05:05 PM)
Simple rules for mass gaining

1.Eat more (medium size meal containing 50%  carbs,25% protein and 25% vegies) try to eat every 2-3 hours..
2.Do compund exercise using fairly heavy weights
3.get enough rest for muscle recovery.

PM me if u need to ask anything  smile.gif
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most people said same like u. but i need a coach. to discipline myself if not, nothing will work.
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im in bandar baru bangi... near kajang
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i around 180cm but my weight just 60kg...my target is 65...^^
5 months ago i just 53 kg...lol...
after break with gf,then keep eat and eat...^^
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Hi, we have similar body. i was 53kg with 176cm before joining gym. the most successful weight i ever hit was 65kg. but now my weight decrease to 61kg. please advice how to break through my bottleneck. my target is 68-70kg. Thanks.
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Here's some cooking tips from a guy who likes to explore a lot on cooking food.

Boiling eggs for a workout

Boiling eggs take 20 minutes. That's my experience if you it to come out clean and nice and you crack open the shell. A good thing you might want to do is to boil it a few hours before you intend to eat it.

I personally wake up in the morning, grab 3 eggs and start boiling them in cold water, leave them on the stove and bath and prepare to go to work. 10 minutes in the shower, 10 minutes dressing up, and the eggs are done.

If you intend to eat in the morning buy don't have time to boil it in the morning too, boiling them before you sleep (say you sleep at 10.30pm) would be a good method. But boil it before you are sleeping. This should be done last. Overnight eggs aren't that good actually, but this helps a little.

Steamed Soy Chicken

As much Chicken as you want
Light Soy Sauce
Dark Soy Sauce
Oyster Sauce
Sesame Seed Oil
Pepper to taste
Bawang Goreng to taste

Marinate all the ingredients above except for Sesame Seed Oil and Pepper and Bawang Goreng. Leave them overnight and when you wake up next morning, sprinkle some Sesame Seed Oil and steam it up. It should take 15 to 20 minutes to be done. When it's done, sprinkle pepper and the bawang goreng. DONE!

Giving some flavor to food with shallots, garlic and ginger

Common Malay recipes would want you to peel shallots / onions / ginger and frying them up before doing the rest of the process. Since we may not have that much prep time due to work and what not, here's what I used to do when I was in Uni.

Grab 2 bawang merah
4 little cloves of garlic.
ginger the size of the garlic.

Now peel those skins off, and get a mortar and pestle and smash them up until it's nicely look a good mixture. Now, whenever you need to make a meal for at most 2 people, grab a teaspoon of the mixture and fry em. Since you will have leftovers, keep in the fridge. The mixture should last for the next 2 to 3 days in the fridge.

color my food!

If you think my Steamed Soy Chicken recipe is quite bland in terms of color (it'll just come out a nice brown soy color in the end), consider having green and red bell peppers in the ready. Once whatever food is done, just go ahead and give a wash, cut them, and spread it on the food. Then, stir it up. It gives a nicer presentation than seeing bland bodybuilding food. tongue.gif

Readying veges for a week

Lifehacker has a good idea. Consider cutting veges in the weekend for a week's duration (practically, i'd do 3 to 4 days since it depends on your mood what vege you want during the days you live in). Prep time takes a while, and this should shave it, while still giving you the nutrients you need. More on that in this link:

http://lifehacker.com/5922608/save-kitchen...es-in-one-batch

That's all I've got for now. smile.gif

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Lets be real: Bodybuilders / Concious weight watchers don't really get a chance to indulge in a snack that is supposed to serve as guilty pleasures.

And baking protein bars does get some eye brows raised (because you don't want to subject protein into heat).

But what if I told you that you can actually make a snack, that is high in protein, doesn't have to be flavorless, and you don't have to even feel guilty about it?

Well, Whey Protein Ice cream is your fix.

http://blog.recipeforfitness.com/2011/07/p...am-recipes.html

The blog gives some good ideas on what kind of flavors you can mix in. No sweeteners too (unless you somehow get a chance to use Stevia / Splenda of all things).

Hard to find Almond Milk? Water is still fine. The reason why Almond Milk is more considered is due to the natural fat qualities that help give an extra boost. So it won't just be proteins, you'll get some nice fats too.

No ice cream maker? Do the trick with the ziplock bag. That works too. Or, order a super cheap ice cream maker that you can shake with. (Well, at least it is cheaper than buying a maker)

I'll see if I've got more tricks and tips to add more color and flavor to food. biggrin.gif
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Ah oatmeal... I either love you or hate you. But since I'm a horribly picker eater, I have no choice but to consume you (since you also help me lower down my cholesterol level).

If you feel that eating oats with hot water and a pinch of salt would do you good enough, then you're good. But for picky eaters, I have these suggestions for you.

- Peanut Butter and Raisins. What I personally chose was Steffi's Natural Peanut Butter (Based on content, it's just Peanut butter and some additives I think. And price is RM 11 at Cold Storage) and Sunmaid Raisins (During offers, they can be HORRIBLY CHEAP).
- If you can't find Steffi's, Jif is fine too. But I can only vouch for these 2 brands, and nothing else.
- If you still feel a little down and out, or you just want some sugar at times, there's no harm with a TEASPOON (READ: TEASPOON) of evaporated milk. But of course, at times lah.
- Another one I would also do personally is 3 teaspoons of Milo (This is actually based on how many spoonfuls of oat you put into the bowl. I use the Chinese Plastic Soup Spoon for measurement). But Cocoa powder might help you out better (if you like it bitter).
- Want a spike in your routine? Coffee then. But 1 teaspoon for up to 3 spoonfuls. Anything more than taht and you'll be drinking coffee with oats inside.
- You might oppose against this, but I find that if you're not chugging down on a protein shake, having a scoop or 2 of whey into the oats can help too.

And the good thing is that you can keep the items in office so if you're in a rush, at least you can pop open all that stuff and eat it there.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 2 2012, 04:58 PM)
Here's some cooking tips from a guy who likes to explore a lot on cooking food.

Boiling eggs for a workout

Boiling eggs take 20 minutes. That's my experience if you it to come out clean and nice and you crack open the shell. A good thing you might want to do is to boil it a few hours before you intend to eat it.

I personally wake up in the morning, grab 3 eggs and start boiling them in cold water, leave them on the stove and bath and prepare to go to work. 10 minutes in the shower, 10 minutes dressing up, and the eggs are done.

If you intend to eat in the morning buy don't have time to boil it in the morning too, boiling them before you sleep (say you sleep at 10.30pm) would be a good method. But boil it before you are sleeping. This should be done last. Overnight eggs aren't that good actually, but this helps a little.


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Sorry man I really don't encourage this.

Although it may (or may not) damage the protein, overcooking the egg like this definitely changes the molecular structure of the egg, which is probably not healthy (just like overcooking meat on a barbeque is asking for cancer).

I don't boil my eggs for anything longer than 4 mins.
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My method is by dunking in the eggs in cold water and begin heating up. By the time I was done with my activities, it would be just nice and easily peeled.

But hey, everyone has their opinions. So do heed his advice too guys. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 5 2012, 11:27 PM)
Sorry man I really don't encourage this.

Although it may (or may not) damage the protein, overcooking the egg like this definitely changes the molecular structure of the egg, which is probably not healthy (just like overcooking meat on a barbeque is asking for cancer).

I don't boil my eggs for anything longer than 4 mins.
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Hey some of you guys don't know how good you have it. I'm 189cm and 58kg.

Yeah, I know I need to eat, but at 19 and just about to start university I can't really afford all the expenses. How do you guys (students) cope? I mean there's a shitload of food to buy, gym membership, protein. Very frustrating lol.
Btw is 3200kcal a day good enough to see gains (of any kind)?
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QUOTE(JohnDoe93 @ Jul 6 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hey some of you guys don't know how good you have it. I'm 189cm and 58kg.

Yeah, I know I need to eat, but at 19 and just about to start university I can't really afford all the expenses. How do you guys (students) cope? I mean there's a shitload of food to buy, gym membership, protein. Very frustrating lol.
Btw is 3200kcal a day good enough to see gains (of any kind)?
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Hey im a student. I work part time to get some money to buy the food. I'm sure the university do have a gym rite.
You can read up more about bodybuilding and calculate precisely how much calories you need to consume.
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QUOTE(JohnDoe93 @ Jul 6 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hey some of you guys don't know how good you have it. I'm 189cm and 58kg.

Yeah, I know I need to eat, but at 19 and just about to start university I can't really afford all the expenses. How do you guys (students) cope? I mean there's a shitload of food to buy, gym membership, protein. Very frustrating lol.
Btw is 3200kcal a day good enough to see gains (of any kind)?
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What is your budget?

Eggs are cheap.
Bread is cheap.
Peanut butter is (relatively) cheap.

You don't have to rely on whey all the time.
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QUOTE(JohnDoe93 @ Jul 6 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hey some of you guys don't know how good you have it. I'm 189cm and 58kg.

Yeah, I know I need to eat, but at 19 and just about to start university I can't really afford all the expenses. How do you guys (students) cope? I mean there's a shitload of food to buy, gym membership, protein. Very frustrating lol.
Btw is 3200kcal a day good enough to see gains (of any kind)?
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You first word kind a confusing to me rclxub.gif Nevertheless, I am currently in the same boat as you. Still studying with not so much money so this is what I do.

1. Work as a part time. You have to and you need to. Just like what rc2x said. I do part time job every weekend and I can get RM 120. That can last me for the week.

2. If you can cook, you better cook. If you compared buying food from outside than cooking them, you will found out that cooking them is far more cheaper. For example, 1 serving of white rice can easily priced at RM 1.50 but 10kg of 'beras' is RM 15.00.

3. Your university should have a gym. If it is a well equipped gym, then use it. If not, there is no other way. Beggars can't be choosers.

4. Supplements are not a necessity. A good diet, a good workout and a good rest are needed. You can spend your money to buy supps but if you don't even have enough money to eat foods to meet your calorie intake, then it will be just a waste.

5. Again, supps is not a necessity. Just want to make sure that this point is heard.

And if you need to ask whether 3200kcal is enough for you, then you need to do some calculating. There is a lot of posts lately on how you can calculate your required calorie.






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QUOTE(JohnDoe93 @ Jul 6 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hey some of you guys don't know how good you have it. I'm 189cm and 58kg.

Yeah, I know I need to eat, but at 19 and just about to start university I can't really afford all the expenses. How do you guys (students) cope? I mean there's a shitload of food to buy, gym membership, protein. Very frustrating lol.
Btw is 3200kcal a day good enough to see gains (of any kind)?
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When I was studying, I never used any sort of protein.

Just consistently I remembered to eat 6 small meals (1 of them being just an apple), cooked most of my meals (only going out when I feel I have extra cash) and making due with whatever I could.

I still bulked up. Just that it took a while since I was still young with the knowledge.
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Satay satay satay.

I actually love Satay. A whole lot. You find the right people selling and you get chunks of bite sized meat on a stick. And these chunks store a WHOLE LOT of awesome flavor.

But the other reason, and perhaps actual one, is really the peanut sauce. It's peanuts. It's calorie dense!

I have this recipe that I can show to you guys that has real Malaysian flavor to it (i've read some others from AllRecipe.com, but they don't have TUMERIC/ Kunyit in them. WHAT THE HELL?)

http://rasamalaysia.com/recipe-chicken-satay/2/

Now, I can't vouch if it tastes good or not. I have yet to try myself. But this is still a good thing because:

- You can do this in the weekend since MARINATION is important as hell. It needs to be marinated for a long time (or you can actually marinate in 2 hours minimum if you just can't tahan). And you can keep it for a few days too.
- Don't fancy eating from a stick? Stir frying is also a plausible idea. The trick is to drizzle some oil (olive if you want the healthy route) when heating the pan. I'd recommend non stick.
- A grilling pan won't work so well. Since what actually drives satay to be fun is the chargrilled elements. You can't emulate that without the common charcoal net/ bbq station grill. you can try putting it on sticks and placing it on direct fire, but that'd be a waste of natural resources. (unless you precook the chicken by baking)

That's the satay, here's the peanut sauce.

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/satay-sauce/d...&e7=Home%20Page

http://rasamalaysia.com/malaysian-sataynow...peanut-sauce/2/

Again, i've not tried the sauces, but bear in mind this 2 very different ways for a sauce. I've yet to see any tricks to modify it (unless you're willing the lower the fat content by changing the santan or finding someway to make the sambal for the 2nd recipe not have too much oil), but I guess these will do.

Consider that you get protein, calorie dense nuts with good fats in them. The carbs are also there through the nuts, so you don't really need rice to eat with. Cucumber should be a good addition though. But if you're also picky like me, dip green peppers into the sauce rather than eating cucumbers.

best eaten IMMEDIATELY after they're done cooking. You store them any longer and you'll have some tough meat to chew instead.
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should I stop cardio if i want to gain bulk?
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You don't need to stop doing cardio, just cut down your sessions or up your caloric intake to compensate.
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hey, just curious, what if i'm bulking and I do cardio and I eat more to compensate. What will happen? Where the stuffs will go? lol.

btw, good sharing Kyoyagami, gonna try soy chicken steamed tmr! smile.gif
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hey, just curious, what if i'm bulking and I do cardio and I eat more to compensate. What will happen? Where the stuffs will go? lol.

btw, good sharing Kyoyagami, gonna try soy chicken steamed tmr! smile.gif
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Most likely nothing significant in terms of fat/muscle unless you're a newbie just starting out for the first time, in which case a body recomp is quite possible. Your cardiovascular health will benefit from the cardio too.
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Most likely nothing significant in terms of fat/muscle unless you're a newbie just starting out for the first time, in which case a body recomp is quite possible. Your cardiovascular health will benefit from the cardio too.
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if you do it regularly and consistently.
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I've got 2 ideas.

There used to be a way that if you're very busy with work and you don't have time to cook, roasting a turkey would be the best choice. I know how expensive turkey can be. And let's be honest, Malaysian Chicken aren't that huge. You can finish 1 whole bird in a whole day given. (unless you spread your meals of when you want to eat chicken and everything else).

There's plenty of ways to roast a good chicken or turkey. You can find it everywhere. but if you want a simple one from me, the soy sauce recipe from the steamed chicken earlier can also be put to use here. You'll only need.

Dark soy Sauce.
Light soy sauce.
salt and pepper.
and... BUTTTERRRRR

Again, marination is crucial. But what makes a good roast chicken is also on how well you spread the seasoning you've got. Youtube videos can give you a better idea, but I like to do this:

- Rub salt and pepper first. Above skin, under skin, the inside.
- Pour dark soy sauce first, and give it a good massage around.
- Top it off by pouring light soy sauce all over.
- And lastly, place butter in wherever desired. I'd cover as much as possible, but try coating the chicken with small sticks. And give those sticks like 5cm apart from each other. The good part is actually watching them melt and cover the chicken. hehe.
- Optional, you can throw in some veges like potatos and let them bake in the pan.

Ayam / Daging Masak Kunyit (Stir Fried Tumeric Beef or Chicken)

This is horribly simple. I may have covered this, but here's an idea still.

-Chicken/beef chunks.
-Tumeric Powder.
-Salt and pepper for seasoning.
-Optional: Onions, green and red peppers, any vege that's small enough for you to try as long as it's not leafy.

Marinate them meat with the tumeric powder and salt and pepper. Heat your pan, throw them in when it's hot, fry until dry. That's it. Once it's dry then you can start throwing in the other optional items.

And walah! Another speedy dish. But take note that beef can take longer to fry.
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Hello everyone. I wish to ask few questions smile.gif Appreciate it if you guys help me out.

I am 21 this year. My target is to lose weight first and gain muscle later. So i have manage to lose 7kg so far in 3months. Currently 74 or 75kg. So i think i am fine with this weight.

I workout 2 times per day ( Afternn and night ) and 6 days a week except on Saturday. Supplement i take is whey protein. Questions is it alright if i drink whey after my workout both times? Or only once will do?

Thank you
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QUOTE(Nevermore91 @ Aug 6 2012, 10:37 PM)
Hello everyone. I wish to ask few questions smile.gif Appreciate it if you guys help me out.

I am 21 this year. My target is to lose weight first and gain muscle later. So i have manage to lose 7kg so far in 3months. Currently 74 or 75kg. So i think i am fine with this weight.

I workout 2 times per day ( Afternn and night ) and 6 days a week except on Saturday. Supplement i take is whey protein. Questions is it alright if i drink whey after my workout both times? Or only once will do?

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Yeah, both times are ok.

But if you're not losing, that means you're not resting well enough. Rest periods are going to be important too.
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taking mass gainer supplement without body exercise, will the supplement just wasted, or still the body will be able to absorb and body put on weight?

i'm using inner armour hardmass now. gaining about ~2 to 3kg since 24th aug.
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QUOTE(Mliven @ Sep 5 2012, 03:43 PM)
taking mass gainer supplement without body exercise, will the supplement just wasted, or still the body will be able to absorb and body put on weight?

i'm using inner armour hardmass now. gaining about ~2 to 3kg since 24th aug.
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All those extra calories will go to all those fats and you'll wish that you didn't do that in the first place.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 5 2012, 11:27 PM)
Sorry man I really don't encourage this.

Although it may (or may not) damage the protein, overcooking the egg like this definitely changes the molecular structure of the egg, which is probably not healthy (just like overcooking meat on a barbeque is asking for cancer).

I don't boil my eggs for anything longer than 4 mins.
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All those extra calories will go to all those fats and you'll wish that you didn't do that in the first place.
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my body bmi = 19. No worries yet about the fat (lubricant) slugging on my body.
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I won't get hard-boiled eggs in 4 mins sad.gif
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Boil water - water boiled - put egg in - 4 mins - hard boiled

If you start with cold water and cold eggs, then closer to 5-6 min.
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Hi Guys,

Tumpang thread abit.

Currently our company is selling the Gaspari MyoFusion Probiotic 5lbs at only RM179.90

Come over to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2542477 for more info.




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Dude do it at the sales thread. Not here.
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im currently 17. i weigh around 66kg. what would you recommend as a snack for beginners like me?
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im currently 17. i weigh around 66kg. what would you recommend as a snack for beginners like me?
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Trail mix! Or a variety of nuts mixed together. Good fat and good protein contents.
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Trail mix! Or a variety of nuts mixed together. Good fat and good protein contents.
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anything else to replace nuts? coz my tummy cant digest nuts well..

..it will go nuts and cause me diarrhea sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Oct 12 2012, 05:27 PM)
anything else to replace nuts? coz my tummy cant digest nuts well..

..it will go nuts and cause me diarrhea sweat.gif
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When it comes to snacking, the cheapest option is indeed nuts. If you are going to want protein and good contents of fat, there you go.

However, if money wasn't an issue, yogurt is fine. But if you hate eating yogurt on it's own, grab some cinnamon powder and some raisins. That counters the sour taste. If that's too expensive or too low in Protein contents, you can definitely get a can of tuna. Don't think about the brand too much, just something adequate.

but if you're in a budget, I can't think of any good alternatives. Unless you don't mind buying RM 1 sardines/mackarel. I'm serious. Those small cans actually pack around 22 grams of protein (per 100gram). That's a good serving of an uncooked drumstick.

The good thing about Malaysia is that while our dairy is crap in price, our fish is awesomely affordable.

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This gives me a good idea for a night snack.

Cinnamoned Banana Ice cream!

You'll need:

Frozen banana, ripe.
Cinnamon powder to taste
Raisins or dried cherries.

Slice them frozen bananas.
Put them in a food processor and blend.
Blend until it's consistency is like an ice cream. Soft serve ice cream.
Scoop em up when done.
Mix the raisins or cherries and sprinkle the cinnamon powder.
Kacau. If not enough cinnamon flavor, sprinkle somemore. You don't want it to overpower the banana nor the dried fruits you mixed in earlier.

Walah, 10 minute snack done. For added protein, I'd go with some a few spoons of yogurt after blending it. Then it because some awesome fruit yogurt.
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im not that fond of nuts but ill try it out. ive been snacking on cans of tuna lol. 5 cans gone in two days.. btw im doing my weight training with 3kg dumbbells. is it too light for muscle gaining?

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Oct 12 2012, 11:33 PM)
im not that fond of nuts but ill try it out. ive been snacking on cans of tuna lol. 5 cans gone in two days.. btw im doing my weight training with 3kg dumbbells. is it too light for muscle gaining?
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WAY.TOO.LIGHT. At least go for a 5kg EZ Bar.
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WAY.TOO.LIGHT. At least go for a 5kg EZ Bar.
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Still way too light
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At least it's close to double of what he's doing. Or her. Let em do it. We all start somewhere.
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Hey Kyo, I'd like to put on some weight too, could you give me some tips on how to do it efficiently ?

I'm 23 this year with a height of 170 cm and have been staying at 61 kg on the weighing scale for a few years now. I can eat 2-3 bowls of rice for lunch and dinner ( but i usually skip breakfast as I sleep rather late and have supper instead ).
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Trail mix! Or a variety of nuts mixed together. Good fat and good protein contents.
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Hi bro, u mean the cooked mix nut snack that we usually see at supermarket like jusco? i usually take biscuit(munchy mix/chipsmore) as snack whenever i feel hungry in the office. is it sufficient compared to nuts?
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QUOTE(Dimiberbs @ Oct 13 2012, 02:12 AM)
Hey Kyo, I'd like to put on some weight too, could you give me some tips on how to do it efficiently ?

I'm 23 this year with a height of 170 cm and have been staying at 61 kg on the weighing scale for a few years now. I can eat 2-3 bowls of rice for lunch and dinner ( but i usually skip breakfast as I sleep rather late and have supper instead ).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=f6OJYtBJzV8

this is a breakfast of bodybuilder. if you can match it, then you can gain weight.
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QUOTE(ixole @ Oct 13 2012, 10:29 AM)
Hi bro, u mean the cooked mix nut  snack that we usually see at supermarket like jusco? i usually take biscuit(munchy mix/chipsmore) as snack whenever i feel hungry in the office. is it sufficient compared to nuts?
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Hell no. That's never sufficient considering chipsmore has sugar. Throw that. Now.

If you're more adventurous, try and roast them yourselfs. get them at the raw area and do it on your own.

If you're lazy, then yeah, the ones that are packed already would work too. But try to avoid the nuts that contain palm oil and sugar. Salt try to be more reasonable.

if you want ideas on what kind of nuts would work together, here's some:

Peanuts
Pistachio
Walnuts
Almonds
Cashews

Jumble em up. If you want a little sugar/carb, dried fruits in the mix would be good. But don't roast them all. It's mixed after you mixed the nuts, and roasted them a little.
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Oct 13 2012, 12:13 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=f6OJYtBJzV8

this is a breakfast of bodybuilder. if you can match it, then you can gain weight.
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blink.gif there's no way I can do that without my stomach exploding.
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blink.gif  there's no way I can do that without my stomach exploding.
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Frankly speaking, you can at least attempt half of that. And that would be just be great.

Frankly speaking also, I have no idea how it takes to go efficient. There's been the notion of 6 small meals, 3 big meals, 2 mega meals, or even 7 meals. But what you should do is ask yourself how many protein, carbs and fat and do you need per day.

Once you've sorted that out, figure out the vitamins you'll need and where to get them. It gets easier after you figure out the 3 important macros needed.
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Thanks a lot for all the help in giving us these tips and guidelines...I am sure everything will then be alright. I got to learn from it now. beef jerky
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Hello everyone, i hope i can get some advise from you guys


Firstly, i heard that for a person to gain muscle, he should only do bout 45min- an hour per session, not mre than tht, isit true? If its true, whats the reason?

Next is I read in a blog to gain muscle, you should do till your muscle hurt n hurt for few days. Problem for me is ( example doing biceps exercise ) i will feel muscle sore but only for few hours ), is tht ok n will i be able gain muscle?
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QUOTE(Nevermore91 @ Nov 13 2012, 08:55 PM)
Hello everyone, i hope i can get some advise from you guys
Firstly, i heard that for a person to gain muscle, he should only do bout 45min- an hour per session, not mre than tht, isit true? If its true, whats the reason?

Next is I read in a blog to gain muscle, you should do till your muscle hurt n hurt for few days. Problem for me is ( example doing biceps exercise ) i will feel muscle sore but only for few hours ), is tht ok n will i be able gain muscle?
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mind sharing your source(s)?
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He's just referring to the common saying that DOMS up to a few days is the key indication to having had a productive workout. But that is incorrect ain't it. And the statement before that, 45 mins required to gain muscles, is definitely incorrect.
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http://jasonferruggia.com/how-long-should-your-workout-last/

I guess my friend was right about the 45min thing. Here.


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Ferrugia has a point. He always had. But it will still depend on people. Some peak at 60, some lesser. Hence why some people might benefit working out shorter compared to longer.
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Ferrugia has a point. He always had. But it will still depend on people. Some peak at 60, some lesser. Hence why some people might benefit working out shorter compared to longer.
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Ideally 45-60 min is fine; excluding warmups.

I normally would quit when I feel tired; that is when I'm going heavy (relative to individual).

SOmetimes I only done one exercise ( with 10-12 sets).

Not during my early days, but as you train more than 2-3 years and you are more mature and going with quality and heavy drive, I would say, dont push to meet the number of exercise you do but rather quality. cheers.
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I just started to switch to bulking mode. Unsure whether it is sufficient enough ...

Height : 178cm, Weight : 80-81kg

Weekdays
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1. Breakfast - Cornflakes + pumpkin seed + almond mix with low fat milk and protein shakes
2. Lunch - Rice (slightly more than 1 clenched of first) + 2 pieces of omelets + 1/2 Vege + 3 types of meats ... Quite heavy
3. Dinner - Usually after workout, protein shakes will be the one. Once a week, will have broccoli, salmon, dim sum, eggs.

Weekend
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1. Breakfast - Cornflakes + pumpkin seed + almond mix with low fat milk + protein shakes
2. Lunch - Diversify - It can be noodles, fried rice ....
3. Dishes

Well, weekend could be junkie days for me but when back to weekdays, it will be totally different.

Any ideas if I able to bulk ? I don't really extreme bulk ... My goal is to build more muscle mass ... Used to bulk and tone to get the shape ...

Let me know if you need more information. Thanks.
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jan 14 2013, 04:59 PM)
I just started to switch to bulking mode. Unsure whether it is sufficient enough ...

Height : 178cm, Weight : 80-81kg

Weekdays
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1. Breakfast - Cornflakes + pumpkin seed + almond mix with low fat milk and protein shakes
2. Lunch - Rice (slightly more than 1 clenched of first) + 2 pieces of omelets + 1/2 Vege + 3 types of meats ... Quite heavy
3. Dinner - Usually after workout, protein shakes will be the one. Once a week, will have broccoli, salmon, dim sum, eggs.

Weekend
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1. Breakfast - Cornflakes + pumpkin seed + almond mix with low fat milk + protein shakes
2. Lunch - Diversify - It can be noodles, fried rice ....
3. Dishes

Well, weekend could be junkie days for me but when back to weekdays, it will be totally different.

Any ideas if I able to bulk ? I don't really extreme bulk ... My goal is to build more muscle mass ... Used to bulk and tone to get the shape ...

Let me know if you need more information. Thanks.
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Total calorie for this diet? What's you calorie maintenance?
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Hold on, let me calculate ...
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Cutting mode is around : 1500+ calories with whey protein
Bulking mode is around : 1800+ calories with muscle mass protein (additional 300 calories)

That is for weekdays, but for weekend my calories tend to be slightly higher.

Seems like really insufficient ......
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jan 14 2013, 05:20 PM)
Cutting mode is around : 1500+ calories with whey protein
Bulking mode is around : 1800+ calories with muscle mass protein (additional 300 calories)

That is for weekdays, but for weekend my calories tend to be slightly higher.

Seems like really insufficient ......
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I feel a little awkward by the way, but of course I don't intention to be a body builder ... I just want to have a nice shape of muscular body ... maybe we can PM to talk things in detail ..
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QUOTE(patrickyeo21 @ Jan 14 2013, 05:27 PM)
I feel a little awkward by the way, but of course I don't intention to be a body builder ... I just want to have a nice shape of muscular body ... maybe we can PM to talk things in detail ..
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Well, I'm in the middle of final exam week so I don't think that is possible at the moment. Sorry. But you can refer to the 3 links on my signature since you are seriously didn't know much about nutrition.
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I have a feeling he's counting it wrongly. But hey, take his advice and look at the Nutrition for Beginner's link.
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skinny fat . started Sept 2011 ended May 2012, build up slightly with 1-2 inch fat tummy (15kgx2 bell squat,25kg arm row,etc)
work stuff got shitty and stop , taught to mass up with health food
in the end all end up back in tummy doh.gif , really sucks bad with 3-4 inch now
good is that the earlier gain muscle is still there and i can lift back my weights with a couple of session
time to hit back the dumbells and countinue were i left off nod.gif

Lesson learn : skinnies only gain tummy without pumping
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Maybe you should try the barbell instead of the dumbbells now.
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I'm 169cm 110lbs. Is it fine if i maintain 2,000 - 2,500 calories a day to gain mass? Estimating my body fat is around 15-20%.
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I'm 169cm 110lbs. Is it fine if i maintain 2,000 - 2,500 calories a day to gain mass? Estimating my body fat is around 15-20%.
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An easy rule for this is that if you're not slimming down, that's your maintenance.
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Everyone should have a calorie counter app in their phones IMO, easier to track whether you've eaten enough for the day or not.

I just started using it today, its quite awesome, the one I use is myfitnesspal, you guys can check it out biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(afieQ @ Feb 16 2013, 10:22 AM)
Everyone should have a calorie counter app in their phones IMO, easier to track whether you've eaten enough for the day or not.

I just started using it today, its quite awesome, the one I use is myfitnesspal, you guys can check it out  biggrin.gif

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i've never counted the calories that i took. my food r always oil free, fried free low salt zero sugar. 5 boiled eggs, veggies n chicken breast meat, and whey in the morning, post workout, n prebedtime.

the weights that i train r increasing 1.5-2kgs weekly
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 18 2013, 03:06 PM)
i've never counted the calories that i took. my food r always oil free, fried free low salt zero sugar. 5 boiled eggs, veggies n chicken breast meat, and whey in the morning, post workout, n prebedtime.

the weights that i train r increasing 1.5-2kgs weekly
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your diet must be pretty tiring, drab and from my point of view, nauseating

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you dont even give a damn about your diet so why bother others? and u said u r in the obese category right? lol

my diet is not tiring at all because im already 27yo. since i was 15yo i've already became slim boy.. so i've already get used to how to control my diet

seriously sometimes it feels even sicker to see some people who never care about their diet when they're already out of shape.. i pray for them
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 19 2013, 01:29 PM)
you dont even give a damn about your diet so why bother others? and u said u r in the obese category right? lol

my diet is not tiring at all because im already 27yo. since i was 15yo i've already became slim boy.. so i've already get used to how to control my diet

seriously sometimes it feels even sicker to see some people who never care about their diet when they're already out of shape.. i pray for them
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Yes, I should not bother if I am obese :/
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It depends how ones plays with cal in cal out plus type of carbs. Nasi Lemak/Pizza, shall we classify them as dirty? At times we need our lives, how far we wanna go, what are the short term goal, long term.. Eating clean may has its adverse effect, that doesn't mean we shall not aim on that direction.

Assuming 1 roti canai having same cal with a plate of green big leafy vege, which one you go for? I will go for Canai.. So in short, you gotta know how fast your body can response to it, how you can enjoy certain foods and yet you are able to pilot your body.

Let's strike a balance in life is always the best deal.
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QUOTE(Arrio @ Mar 20 2013, 01:53 PM)
It depends how ones plays with cal in cal out plus type of carbs. Nasi Lemak/Pizza, shall we classify them as dirty? At times we need our lives, how far we wanna go, what are the short term goal, long term.. Eating clean may has its adverse effect, that doesn't mean we shall not aim on that direction.

Assuming 1 roti canai having same cal with a plate of green big leafy vege, which one you go for? I will go for Canai.. So in short, you gotta know how fast your body can response to it, how you can enjoy certain foods and yet you are able to pilot your body.

Let's strike a balance in life is always the best deal.
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The cal in vs out theory is just part of eating clean and maintaining a perfect physique.

What people fail to realize is that the slow/fast digestion, energy used to breakdown the fats/carbs/proteins, thermogenic effect of food, metabolism, etc are actually important elements in helping one sustain his/her diet program as well.

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cold / normal water to blend a mass gain shake?
my stomach is not good, every morning after drinking cold stuff wil go to toilet afterward
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QUOTE(ItsWL @ Mar 26 2013, 11:45 AM)
cold / normal water to blend a mass gain shake?
my stomach is not good, every morning after drinking cold stuff wil go to toilet afterward
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Are you sure because of cold stuff?
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Are you sure because of cold stuff?
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probably ~ Coz i used to drink hot milo / coffe previously , i start not feeling well after chg to cold mass gain shake and sometimes even drink and after awhile it shit out = = it's lik nv absorb in my stomach at all
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QUOTE(ItsWL @ Mar 27 2013, 12:08 AM)
probably ~ Coz i used to drink hot milo / coffe previously , i start not feeling well after chg to cold mass gain shake and sometimes even drink and after awhile it shit out = = it's lik nv absorb in my stomach at all
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does your mass gain shake contain magnesium?
"people also take magnesium in the form of antacids to relieve indigestion or laxatives to relieve constipation" as quoted from a website nod.gif
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cold / normal water to blend a mass gain shake?
my stomach is not good, every morning after drinking cold stuff wil go to toilet afterward
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Very likely it's due to high lactose in your shake smile.gif
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probably ~ Coz i used to drink hot milo / coffe previously , i start not feeling well after chg to cold mass gain shake and sometimes even drink and after awhile it shit out = = it's lik nv absorb in my stomach at all
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u need hydrolyzed whey
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QUOTE(Arrio @ Mar 27 2013, 09:40 AM)
Very likely it's due to high lactose in your shake smile.gif
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QUOTE(Arrio @ Mar 27 2013, 09:40 AM)
Very likely it's due to high lactose in your shake smile.gif
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QUOTE(Rapidknight @ Mar 27 2013, 12:26 AM)
does your mass gain shake contain magnesium?
"people also take magnesium in the form of antacids to relieve indigestion or laxatives to relieve constipation" as quoted from a website  nod.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 27 2013, 03:44 PM)
u need hydrolyzed whey
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So u guy hav any suggested supplement [mass gain] for ppl lik me?

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Leangains Intermittent Fasting works for me, lost 10 kg in 3 months. Gain 4kg of muscle mass also. Easier to follow compared to 6 times eating style.
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Hi guys, I have a fat belly but at the same time I need bulk the other part of my body.
Should I focus on reducing my belly 1st, or how do I achieve to reduce my belly at the same time bulk up my body?
Would be glad if someone can give some tips to me. Thanks
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 31 2013, 10:05 AM)
Hi guys, I have a fat belly but at the same time I need bulk the other part of my body.
Should I focus on reducing my belly 1st, or how do I achieve to reduce my belly at the same time bulk up my body?
Would be glad if someone can give some tips to me. Thanks
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when u bulk u can do some 'daily belly fat blasting' exercises. look them up at youtube
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QUOTE(mmnr00 @ Mar 28 2013, 04:29 PM)
Leangains Intermittent Fasting works for me, lost 10 kg in 3 months. Gain 4kg of muscle mass also. Easier to follow compared to 6 times eating style.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif it is nice to see someone also doing same Intermittent Fasting too. i lost 5 kg in 5 weeks without much muscles lost..
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 31 2013, 02:05 AM)
Hi guys, I have a fat belly but at the same time I need bulk the other part of my body.
Should I focus on reducing my belly 1st, or how do I achieve to reduce my belly at the same time bulk up my body?
Would be glad if someone can give some tips to me. Thanks
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Consume a caloric surplus which isn't too fat away from your maintenance. If you're gaining about a 1-2kg a month (WITH consistent training and nutrition), you should be fine.

QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 31 2013, 03:42 AM)
when u bulk u can do some 'daily belly fat blasting' exercises. look them up at youtube
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No such thing as 'fat blasting' exercises. If you mean ab exercises, that's all good, but it won't make the abs visible without lowering body fat levels.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 31 2013, 07:43 PM)
Consume a caloric surplus which isn't too fat away from your maintenance. If you're gaining about a 1-2kg a month (WITH consistent training and nutrition), you should be fine.
No such thing as 'fat blasting' exercises. If you mean ab exercises, that's all good, but it won't make the abs visible without lowering body fat levels.
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if u search them up.. those so called fat blasting exercises r actually intensive, non-stop 5-10mins abs exercise and you'll sweat alot. of coz i know bodyfat burn as a whole and u cant 'spot' reduce a certain part. those abs exercises r as a post-workout finisher..
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First of all we should learn what does "MASS GAIN" means. In order to gain size or mass, you should EAT more. Protein shakes and mass gainers is just a hype that marketing companies have created. Switch to red meat protein sources such as beef or lamb. That has more fat in it too. Chicken is a lean protein source so dont eat that if you want to put on size. Next thing you could do is lower or stop doing cardio for a week. Make sure your daily calorie intake should be between 2300 to 2700. Stay away from trans fats or saturated fats. Remember, you need to put on lean mass or muscle mass. NOT fat mass. Do clean bulking. Eat healthy food but increase your portion size. Lift heavy weights for your workouts. Keep your rep range between 8 to 10. Try this for a week or so and you can see the changes. Always test and see what works best for your body. These methods might work on my body but not necessarily yours. So always keep testing and see what gives you the results and stick with it. Goodluck
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No tips but tricks to gain: pump hard then enjoy Capati & Tosai.. yummy even without the curry.. Wrap Capati with dry mutton rendang lagi Shiokalingam..
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QUOTE(avi_habibi @ Apr 8 2013, 03:55 AM)
First of all we should learn what does "MASS GAIN" means. In order to gain size or mass, you should EAT more. Protein shakes and mass gainers is just a hype that marketing companies have created. Switch to red meat protein sources such as beef or lamb. That has more fat in it too. Chicken is a lean protein source so dont eat that if you want to put on size. Next thing you could do is lower or stop doing cardio for a week. Make sure your daily calorie intake should be between 2300 to 2700. Stay away from trans fats or saturated fats. Remember, you need to put on lean mass or muscle mass. NOT fat mass. Do clean bulking. Eat healthy food but increase your portion size. Lift heavy weights for your workouts. Keep your rep range between 8 to 10. Try this for a week or so and you can see the changes. Always test and see what works best for your body. These methods might work on my body but not necessarily yours. So always keep testing and see what gives you the results and stick with it. Goodluck
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No tips but tricks to gain: pump hard then enjoy Capati & Tosai.. yummy even without the curry.. Wrap Capati with dry mutton rendang lagi Shiokalingam..
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All very good advices! Gonna try the capati with mutton rendang Arrio!
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QUOTE(Arrio @ May 4 2013, 12:10 AM)
No tips but tricks to gain: pump hard then enjoy Capati & Tosai.. yummy even without the curry.. Wrap Capati with dry mutton rendang lagi Shiokalingam..
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I still love my roti planta, sugar + butter + more sugar


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QUOTE(joe1aaa @ May 5 2013, 04:17 PM)
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All very good advices! Gonna try the capati with mutton rendang Arrio!
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ May 7 2013, 02:05 PM)
I still love my roti planta, sugar + butter + more sugar
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Aye.. Somehow I just love Banana Leaf's stuff, be simple Canai/Planta to some real heavy stuff. Sometimes just love the MURTABAK, also not forgetting BL floods with curry, sinking all the rice.. thumbup.gif then ended with a bowl of Cendol..

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QUOTE(Arrio @ May 8 2013, 12:22 PM)
Aye.. Somehow I just love Banana Leaf's stuff, be simple Canai/Planta to some real heavy stuff. Sometimes just love the MURTABAK, also not forgetting BL floods with curry, sinking all the rice..  thumbup.gif then ended with a bowl of Cendol..
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I hate them for their chicken naan, got conned, inside got too much vegetables
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ May 8 2013, 12:31 PM)
I hate them for their chicken naan, got conned, inside got too much vegetables
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Errr... vege in naan? Mana punya mamak? Q Bistro not bad though their naan, chicken also quite juicy.. YUMMY!

Just saw this on Groupon, damned tempting man.. http://www.groupon.my/deals/klang-valley-k...128&a=715827975

Maybe should start a thread what "rubbish" we take daily.. Only "rubbish" allowed in the thread.. No supps no protein! Hahaha

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QUOTE(Arrio @ May 8 2013, 12:37 PM)
Errr... vege in naan? Mana punya mamak? Q Bistro not bad though their naan, chicken also quite juicy.. YUMMY!

Just saw this on Groupon, damned tempting man.. http://www.groupon.my/deals/klang-valley-k...128&a=715827975

Maybe should start a thread what "rubbish" we take daily.. Only "rubbish" allowed in the thread.. No supps no protein! Hahaha
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Banana Leaf lor, the last time I was there la.

Q bistro at where?

YES! We should start something like that. Workout so hard, diet so hard, have to have FOOD sometimes
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ May 8 2013, 02:21 PM)
Banana Leaf lor, the last time I was there la.

Q bistro at where?

YES! We should start something like that. Workout so hard, diet so hard, have to have FOOD sometimes
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Q Bistro at Tesco Curve, used to be Ori Kayu I think if not mistaken.

Just had 3 pcs of Capati after workout today.. Simply love it wei...

Coming soon the thread... Cheers! Hopefully members will contribute, also name the place to get those good rubbish to satisfy us...
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QUOTE(Arrio @ May 8 2013, 11:37 PM)
Q Bistro at Tesco Curve, used to be Ori Kayu I think if not mistaken.

Just had 3 pcs of Capati after workout today.. Simply love it wei...

Coming soon the thread... Cheers! Hopefully members will contribute, also name the place  to get those good rubbish to satisfy us...
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I concur but u sure people would approve of such thread? Like Instagram? Here many are so paranoid about having fatty carby foods but those who are the real deal feeds on Oreo cookies and Nutella for fun

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just started to work out 6 months ago, 178cm, 65kg.

i think i'm slightly underweight, any recommendation on the protein?

thanks
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QUOTE(LightEnchanter @ May 23 2013, 03:22 PM)
just started to work out 6 months ago, 178cm, 65kg.

i think i'm slightly underweight, any recommendation on the protein?

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Protein is not the answer
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i'm sorry i should have said gainer smile.gif

saw a couple of it, mass peak, muscle tech, etc.

which one is recommended ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LightEnchanter @ May 27 2013, 01:56 PM)
i'm sorry i should have said gainer smile.gif

saw a couple of it, mass peak, muscle tech, etc.

which one is recommended ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LightEnchanter @ May 23 2013, 03:22 PM)
just started to work out 6 months ago, 178cm, 65kg.

i think i'm slightly underweight, any recommendation on the protein?

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was in your shoes few mths ago.
bought some mass gainer. but as what other bros advised, do concentrate more on real foods.

example: peanut butter with bread, almonds (i like those coated in honey) etc etc.

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hi guys, if i'm doing cardio (squash) and hitting the gym few times a week,
and i want to gain some volume to my body ( i assume its called bulking ), should I start dirty bulking?
cuz even if i drink gainers/proteins, eat regularly (only breakfast, lunch, dinner), i seem to just be getting fitter (i see some shape but its still considered skinny).
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QUOTE(PhungTM @ Jun 1 2013, 06:22 PM)
hi guys, if i'm doing cardio (squash) and hitting the gym few times a week,
and i want to gain some volume to my body ( i assume its called bulking ), should I start dirty bulking?
cuz even if i drink gainers/proteins, eat regularly (only breakfast, lunch, dinner), i seem to just be getting fitter (i see some shape but its still considered skinny).
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Have a read on several stickies thread here such as this one. You'll understand what you actually need.


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was in your shoes few mths ago.
bought some mass gainer. but as what other bros advised, do concentrate more on real foods.

example: peanut butter with bread, almonds (i like those coated in honey) etc etc.
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thanks, the mass gainer you bought does it work for you?
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thanks, the mass gainer you bought does it work for you?
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In concentrating more on real food, in the first week u might struggle to eat more, cos not used to it.
but after that, u will naturally b hungry, then start searching for food.
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my body type is ectomorph with 5 feet 9 inch and 57kg. very skinny.

i plan to reach 70kg weight by lifting and high protein diet. but i wonder, will i lose back if i reduce my lifting workout and eat just normal 3 meals instead of 5-6 meals per day ?

in another words, will i stay on at 70kg if i stop working out and eating 3-4 meals per day ?
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QUOTE(danny200 @ Jun 8 2013, 07:15 PM)
my body type is ectomorph with 5 feet 9 inch and 57kg. very skinny.

i plan to reach 70kg weight by lifting and high protein diet. but i wonder, will i lose back if i reduce my lifting workout and eat just normal 3 meals instead of 5-6 meals per day ?

in another words, will i stay on at 70kg if i stop working out and eating 3-4 meals per day ?
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Since I'm in a good mood albeit a bit tired today, I'll answer your questions.

Meal timing will never effect your progress. Doesn't matter if you eat 1 time a day or 10 times a day, it is all about calorie in vs calorie out. If you do consumed enough calorie for you to grow, then you'll grow. If you eat 10 times a day but you never consumed calorie to even fulfill your TDEE, then you'll never grow.

Is there any method than high protein may I ask?
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when i did pumping, my shoulder hurts, not sure if it's the joints or muscle, but it feels more like the joints, what is the implication of this?
should i continue doing pumps or should i stop?
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QUOTE(justnits @ Jun 22 2013, 10:12 AM)
when i did pumping, my shoulder hurts, not sure if it's the joints or muscle, but it feels more like the joints, what is the implication of this?
should i continue doing pumps or should i stop?
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If your shoulders are hurting then I have to say that your form is wrong.

There are many problems with shoulders when your form isn't right.
What I suggest is look up the proper form and try it with less weight the next time you lift.

It is really important to have proper form, it helps the muscles grow in proportion and reduces the risk of injury.

For example not flailing out your elbows when benching or have them at a 90 degree angle from your body but instead have them below your shoulders to reduce the stress on your shoulders and also get a better pump on your chests.

All these things you can find easily on the internet just search for proper form for whatever exercises your doing!!

It is very important
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Very Huge and an informative thread, I want describe briefly that red eat meat at least once in a weak and try to get quality sleep you must sleep at least 6 hours in a day.
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post Dec 21 2013, 01:06 AM

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One of my fav post workout meal: One can of Tuna in Water, 2 table spoons of coconut oil, big onions, garlics, chilly flakes and 6 whole eggs. You ma too with some oregano.. Simply yummy!!!!!

Try it and share with me...
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QUOTE(Arrio @ Dec 21 2013, 01:06 AM)
One of my fav post workout meal: One can of Tuna in Water, 2 table spoons of coconut oil, big onions, garlics, chilly flakes and 6 whole eggs. You ma too with some oregano.. Simply yummy!!!!!

Try it and share with me...
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bro, where else do you get your dietary fat man? Only from them coconut oil?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 23 2013, 02:18 PM)
bro, where else do you get your dietary fat man? Only from them coconut oil?
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you can put 2 tea spoon olive oil in your protein shake also. protein taste will cover it. :-)
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Dec 24 2013, 03:09 PM)
you can put 2 tea spoon olive oil in your protein shake also. protein taste will cover it. :-)
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hmm I went and check the prices of olive oil, seem on the high side. Where and which one did you get?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 24 2013, 03:21 PM)
hmm I went and check the prices of olive oil, seem on the high side. Where and which one did you get?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 24 2013, 03:21 PM)
hmm I went and check the prices of olive oil, seem on the high side. Where and which one did you get?
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Olive oil TESCO
don think the price that high also. blink.gif
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Dec 26 2013, 10:17 AM)
Olive oil TESCO
don think the price that high also.  blink.gif
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thanks man

Good stuff. Basso Olive Oil 500ml = 1tbspoon 4mg = 125 calories, 14g fat (saturated 2, polyunsaturated 2, monounsaturated 11)

doh.gif looks like i got conned by my gf

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QUOTE(akiratm @ Dec 24 2013, 03:09 PM)
you can put 2 tea spoon olive oil in your protein shake also. protein taste will cover it. :-)
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bro how you count the amount that you've taken? how u measure man?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 27 2013, 02:59 PM)
bro how you count the amount that you've taken? how u measure man?
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2tbsp wooo. myfitnesspal have it right?
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QUOTE(Wyxor @ Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM)
I'm a skinny guy so I am bulking and am curious,

is white rice + chicken curry / usual mamak chicken considered lean food? i get carbs from white rice and protein from the chicken.

or can anyone suggest me healthy bulking malaysian food?
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chicken rice (with chicken breast) or economic rice (pick wisely) and alottttttt more if you wan to bulk..
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chicken rice (with chicken breast) or economic rice (pick wisely) and alottttttt more if you wan to bulk..
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Hey guys, I really want to gain mass this year.

I'm 175cm tall but 50kgs, I believe i'm underweight.. for the past whole year. So, I'm determined to gain mass, esp a few days ago I saw my nephew at a wedding, he's in his late 20s but has a fitter body compared to last time i saw him few months ago. This definitely somehow encouraged me to be fitter/healthier..

He suggested me the dymatize super mass gainer, as what he's taking now. In the mean time, as I read above few posts abt chicken rice, is it advisable for me to consume more rice+chicken now onwards? I mean, something to go with the mass gainer, not just rice+chicken, just to speed up the mass gain..

Really n sincerely need advises.. Thx in advance guys.
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QUOTE(futra @ Jan 15 2014, 06:22 PM)
Hey guys, I really want to gain mass this year.

I'm 175cm tall but 50kgs, I believe i'm underweight.. for the past whole year. So, I'm determined to gain mass, esp a few days ago I saw my nephew at a wedding, he's in his late 20s but has a fitter body compared to last time i saw him few months ago. This definitely somehow encouraged me to be fitter/healthier..

He suggested me the dymatize super mass gainer, as what he's taking now. In the mean time, as I read above few posts abt chicken rice, is it advisable for me to consume more rice+chicken now onwards? I mean, something to go with the mass gainer, not just rice+chicken, just to speed up the mass gain..

Really n sincerely need advises.. Thx in advance guys.
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you can do it without mass gainer. just add extra rice and increase meal portion compare what you eat before. of course have to workout also. else you going gain fat rather than muscles.

do you read 1st page of this thread? try read it from 1st page to lastest. read all, one by one. you will get the point.
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QUOTE(akiratm @ Jan 16 2014, 07:58 AM)
you can do it without mass gainer. just add extra rice and increase meal portion compare what you eat before. of course have to workout also. else you going gain fat rather than muscles.

do you read 1st page of this thread? try read it from 1st page to lastest. read all, one by one. you will get the point.
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Hmm ok, will go through it thoroughly smile.gif Thanks.
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 09:17 AM)
Rosemary Balsamic Chicken

3 boneless skinless chicken breasts
1 tablespoon rosemary (fresh preferred)
3 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon pepper

When you get home, rinse off the chicken breasts, then throw them in the bag with everything else. Mix it up a little, and let it sit in the fridge for at least two hours to marinate.

To cook, preheat your over to 400 degrees, throw the chicken and stuff into a baking dish, cover it, and let it cook in the oven for 25 minutes, or until the meat reaches 165 degrees. If you don't have a "meat thermometer", separate it with a fork.

I cooked these in big batches. 4kgs at a time, go ahead, laugh , I don't care.

Nutrition Facts:
6 oz of breast = 45g of protein (the spices/condiments are calorie free ! the wonders of knowing your way in the kitchen)
Tried a variation of this last night but with:
Apple Cider Vinegar(Didn't have Balsamic lying around)
Thyme
Oregano
Olive Oil
Crushed black peppers
Onion
Garlic
Soy sauce
Onion
Salt

I just eyeballed the amounts and it came out pretty decent! Seared in a coconut oil-lined pan till golden brown on both sides. Cheap, healthy and tasty alternative to eating out!

Thanks for inspiring me to get my lazy ass into the kitchen to actually cook my own dinner!
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is it enough to have semi tough shape with just doing push-up and sit-up and 2kg dumbell excercise??

i have done it for 1.5month.. do feel the improvement compare from 1st day..but my shape look the same since then.. nothing improve..

do i need to improvised my training or buying higher weight dmbell?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
is it enough to have semi tough shape with just doing push-up and sit-up and 2kg dumbell excercise??

i have done it for 1.5month.. do feel the improvement compare from 1st day..but my shape look the same since then.. nothing improve..

do i need to improvised my training or buying higher weight dmbell?
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I'm not sure what you meant, tough shape?? 2kg, even girls don't use that to warm up.

I assume you wanna gain mass.

You need to : -

1. Read up on nutrition & diet. (Bodybuilding.com, read all the stickies there and here)
2. Sign up to a gym nearby.
3. Follow a good beginner program.
4. Make sure you complete #1 before you ask anything else.
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Any tips on how to gain muscle around the arms and abs without going to gym ? Nearest gym from my place is like 10km away and i dont have any transport .
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you sure consume protein a lot man... great post.
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Very good article indeed. Can you teach me how to gain mass faster?
im 166, 53kg
I took Serious Mass Gainer and 4-6 eggs white per day
At least 3 meals everyday

However, its quite hard for me to gain up mass
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Hello, I've buy a Mass Gainer(Inner Armour) Choco Flavor last year... I try some workouts(but inconsistent cuz lazy like dog) and have both hands like cacat (but can use it well). Also I'm IT nerds like play DOTA 2 etc. bla bla bla but I want to be like some of my friends be like Sazali Samad, famous bodybuilder(but not muscular as him) and be fit. HOW??? icon_question.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(ZR46 @ Feb 1 2015, 11:43 AM)
Hello, I've buy a Mass Gainer(Inner Armour) Choco Flavor last year... I try some workouts(but inconsistent cuz lazy like dog) and have both hands like cacat (but can use it well). Also I'm IT nerds like play DOTA 2 etc. bla bla bla but I want to be like some of my friends be like Sazali Samad, famous bodybuilder(but not muscular as him) and be fit. HOW??? icon_question.gif  cry.gif
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Well , first off , don't dream on getting a physique like Sazali. With an attitude like that, you can't. Check up on ur workout routine and DIET.
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QUOTE(kshen @ Feb 1 2015, 06:54 PM)
Well , first off , don't dream on getting a physique like Sazali. With an attitude like that, you can't. Check up on ur workout routine and DIET.
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Okay...

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Hi All,

I have a few questions I want to ask about my food intake that is shown below:

1. What other on-the-go real meals that I can take to substitute the true mass?
2. It looks like I do not have enough Sodium and Sugar. What are the food that I can take that can fill up the missing Sodium and Sugar?

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QUOTE(asciii @ Feb 13 2015, 10:49 AM)
Hi All,

I have a few questions I want to ask about my food intake that is shown below:

1. What other on-the-go real meals that I can take to substitute the true mass?
2. It looks like I do not have enough Sodium and Sugar. What are the food that I can take that can fill up the missing Sodium and Sugar?

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On the go as in food you can buy from shop? I'll say KFC. It's chicken, and it's high in sodium.
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On the go food as in something that I can eat while driving/stuck in traffic jam..not necessarily buy from shop..perhaps some recipes that I can prepare from home and tapau it..
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QUOTE(asciii @ Feb 13 2015, 10:49 AM)
Hi All,

I have a few questions I want to ask about my food intake that is shown below:

1. What other on-the-go real meals that I can take to substitute the true mass?
2. It looks like I do not have enough Sodium and Sugar. What are the food that I can take that can fill up the missing Sodium and Sugar?

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Just a quick question. Why you want to fill the sodium & sugar? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Feb 13 2015, 01:45 PM)
Just a quick question. Why you want to fill the sodium & sugar?  hmm.gif
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I am currently trying to bulk up and gain mass. According to myfitnesspal, based on my height and current weight and target weight, my daily goal of nutrition should amount to what is mentioned in my earlier screenshot..based on that, I see that I am not reaching the target..thats why..

I am noob when it comes to nutrition doh.gif
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QUOTE(asciii @ Feb 13 2015, 03:16 PM)
I am currently trying to bulk up and gain mass. According to myfitnesspal, based on my height and current weight and target weight, my daily goal of nutrition should amount to what is mentioned in my earlier screenshot..based on that, I see that I am not reaching the target..thats why..

I am noob when it comes to nutrition doh.gif
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Okay then focus on calorie > protein > fat > carb.
Sodium & Sugar is for people to keep it under certain value. Not to reach it.
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QUOTE(asciii @ Feb 13 2015, 11:04 AM)
On the go food as in something that I can eat while driving/stuck in traffic jam..not necessarily buy from shop..perhaps some recipes that I can prepare from home and tapau it..
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you wanna try eating edible bugs?

high in protein and fats. eat like how you would eat kacang
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hi all, i need some serious advice, i have a few problems:

First my intention is two-fold:
A. Gain mass/weight, i'm a skinny guy
B. Gain muscles/bodybuilding

1. My right pec development is coming along nicely after starting gym for 1 month, but my left pec development seems to have stalled. I am doing barbell and dumbells press/rows/lifts for both sides. Is it my form? I'm right handed
2. Before starting out at the gym, my weight was 58kg with significant fat around the belly. After 1 month, the belly fat is gone, my forearms, right pec, biceps have gained a little muscle, but my weight still remains at 58kg despite taking Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass. During the entire month, I have increased my dumbell weights from 5kg to 10kg already, and now I'm even starting 12.5kg on my right hand. Is there anything I can do to further increase weight/mass?

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Mar 15 2015, 11:47 AM)
hi all, i need some serious advice, i have a few problems:

First my intention is two-fold:
A. Gain mass/weight, i'm a skinny guy
B. Gain muscles/bodybuilding

1. My right pec development is coming along nicely after starting gym for 1 month, but my left pec development seems to have stalled. I am doing barbell and dumbells press/rows/lifts for both sides. Is it my form? I'm right handed
2. Before starting out at the gym, my weight was 58kg with significant fat around the belly. After 1 month, the belly fat is gone, my forearms, right pec, biceps have gained a little muscle, but my weight still remains at 58kg despite taking Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass. During the entire month, I have increased my dumbell weights from 5kg to 10kg already, and now I'm even starting 12.5kg on my right hand. Is there anything I can do to further increase weight/mass?
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1. You didn't gain much muscle mass . 1 month is too short to track your progress.
2. You've probably lost some fat instead , making your physique slightly defined , hence you assume you're gaining muscle mass
3. Mass gainers won't help if you don't watch your caloric intake

Take note that if you ever plan to "gain mass/muscle" you're definitely prone to fat gains as well . There's no 100% lean muscle gains . A small amount of fat will still be gained

This post has been edited by kshen: Mar 15 2015, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(kshen @ Mar 15 2015, 02:04 PM)
1. You didn't gain much muscle mass . 1 month is too short to track your progress.
2. You've probably lost some fat instead , making your physique slightly defined , hence you assume you're gaining muscle mass
3. Mass gainers won't help if you don't watch your caloric intake

Take note that if you ever plan to "gain mass/muscle" you're definitely prone to fat gains as well . There's no 100% lean muscle gains . A small amount of fat will still be gained
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1. No i've definitely gain some muscle mass. I know 1 month is short, I've been training 4 days each week, with alternate rest days
2. My right pec used to be flat and I've also measured the circumference of my forearm and biceps before/after. It''s bigger than before, of this I'm very sure. Plus I can lift 10kg (>5 sets) now without strain whereas before I could only lift 5kg before tiring out quickly (<2 sets). Is this not considered gaining muscle?
3. I understand that. But one problem i have is that I can't seem to force myself to eat more after taking 3 meals a day and the mass gainer. Does this mean I have to increase the training intensity by upping the weights?

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Mar 15 2015, 05:08 PM)
1. No i've definitely gain some muscle mass. I know 1 month is short, I've been training 4 days each week, with alternate rest days
2. My right pec used to be flat and I've also measured the circumference of my forearm and biceps before/after. It''s bigger than before, of this I'm very sure. Plus I can lift 10kg (>5 sets) now without strain whereas before I could only lift 5kg before tiring out quickly (<2 sets). Is this not considered gaining muscle?
3. I understand that. But one problem i have is that I can't seem to force myself to eat more after taking 3 meals a day and the mass gainer. Does this mean I have to increase the training intensity by upping the weights?
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Here's a few solutions that may help you :

1) throw in more compound workouts , check out the fierce 5 program. Run this program until you stall in your 3 main big lift
2) calculate your caloric intake , literally , calculate and track them . Find out your tdee using "IIFYM calculator".
3) do all the above and compare in a few months time .

All the best .
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QUOTE(H3lpM3 @ Mar 9 2015, 10:34 PM)
you wanna try eating edible bugs?

high in protein and fats. eat like how you would eat kacang
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bugs?
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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Mar 15 2015, 11:47 AM)
hi all, i need some serious advice, i have a few problems:

First my intention is two-fold:
A. Gain mass/weight, i'm a skinny guy
B. Gain muscles/bodybuilding

1. My right pec development is coming along nicely after starting gym for 1 month, but my left pec development seems to have stalled. I am doing barbell and dumbells press/rows/lifts for both sides. Is it my form? I'm right handed
2. Before starting out at the gym, my weight was 58kg with significant fat around the belly. After 1 month, the belly fat is gone, my forearms, right pec, biceps have gained a little muscle, but my weight still remains at 58kg despite taking Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass. During the entire month, I have increased my dumbell weights from 5kg to 10kg already, and now I'm even starting 12.5kg on my right hand. Is there anything I can do to further increase weight/mass?
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First thing, muscles are part of your mass. Your mass is your muscles + your fats together.

The reason why you're not gaining weight is because you did not eat enough. Do not mistaken your strength gains as muscle gains. Strength =/= Mass.

From your post in another thread, I could tell that you are not familiar with bodybuilding terms. Familiarize yourself with it so that when the people here tell you something, you won't look like a fool by justifying yourself with your uninformed theories.
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Hi i want to ask something...if anabolic mass gainer good taste or not?before this using megatuar triple choc.but now i feel nausea.So can you give exampla mass gainer good taste and less sweet.i feel like if i take that 3 month after this maybe get diebetes..haha...too sweet..and can i know the strawberry flavour is good taste then choc and vanila...
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QUOTE(zamnrul @ May 4 2016, 01:06 AM)
Hi i want to ask something...if anabolic mass gainer good taste or not?before this using megatuar triple choc.but now i feel nausea.So can you give exampla mass gainer good taste and less sweet.i feel like if i take that 3 month after this maybe get diebetes..haha...too sweet..and can i know the strawberry flavour is good taste then choc and vanila...
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Can try MHP Up your mass fudge brownie. taste nice and not sweet. Avoid Dymatize Super Mass Gainer/BSN TrueMass/Muscle juice. These are very sweet.
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QUOTE(zamnrul @ May 4 2016, 01:06 AM)
Hi i want to ask something...if anabolic mass gainer good taste or not?before this using megatuar triple choc.but now i feel nausea.So can you give exampla mass gainer good taste and less sweet.i feel like if i take that 3 month after this maybe get diebetes..haha...too sweet..and can i know the strawberry flavour is good taste then choc and vanila...
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There is no need to take mass gainer. It is a waste of money. Just take whey and eat tonnes of carbs.
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Can try MHP Up your mass fudge brownie. taste nice and not sweet. Avoid Dymatize Super Mass Gainer/BSN TrueMass/Muscle juice. These are very sweet.
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Thanks for the suggestion...
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There is no need to take mass gainer. It is a waste of money. Just take whey and eat tonnes of carbs.
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Yes for me its overprice but not waste..but its help me to gain weight..2-3 years before this i eat a lot but cant gain weight..this only 1 month drink megatuar help me ..gain 7kg...from 42 to 49 now...i must gain around 60kg then stop drinking weight gain n take whey after that...
Thanks reply..
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wow! Informative and interesting which we share with you so i think so it is very useful and knowledgeable. I would like to thank you for the efforts. I am tiring the same best work from me in the future as well.
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Informative and interesting which you share with us so i think so it is very useful and knowledgeable. I would like to thank you for the efforts. I am tiring the same best work from me in the future as well.
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Can someone tell me what am i doing wrong? I am underweight and only 56kg. I have been doing weightlifting in gym, eat and drink mass gainer for months but only gained 1kg so far and never increased more!!
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Mar 17 2017, 04:08 PM)
Can someone tell me what am i doing wrong? I am underweight and only 56kg. I have been doing weightlifting in gym, eat and drink mass gainer for months but only gained 1kg so far and never increased more!!
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Simple answer? You're not eating enough.

Long answer? Calculate your TDEE, track your macros, track your weight. Eat 500 calories above your TDEE, 1g of protein for every pound of lean body mass (estimate your BF% and calculate from there). Keep lifting heavy and put effort. Get your weekly average weight. Aim fr about 250g a week. No increase? Well, eat more.
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Until you know how much calorie you should consume each day to maintain weight, there will be no way you know how much calories you will need to gain or lose weight. eating 3000 calories and still not gaining? then bump it up 3500 calories... still not gaining? then 4000, or 5000 or 6000 calories.
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 17 2017, 04:31 PM)
Simple answer? You're not eating enough.

Long answer? Calculate your TDEE, track your macros, track your weight.  Eat 500 calories above your TDEE, 1g of protein for every pound of lean body mass (estimate your BF% and calculate from there). Keep lifting heavy and put effort. Get your weekly average weight. Aim fr about 250g a week. No increase? Well, eat more.
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Wow, that is very slow. 0.2kg per week and you need to ensure 2 weeks time, the weight did not increase.

It is a slow progress, need to be very determine to sustain it.
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QUOTE(henry1203 @ Apr 5 2017, 01:10 PM)
Wow, that is very slow. 0.2kg per week and you need to ensure 2 weeks time, the weight did not increase.

It is a slow progress, need to be very determine to sustain it.
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With 250g a week it is 1kg a month, 12kg a year u know. Not very slow if you ask me.
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QUOTE(zamnrul @ May 5 2016, 08:51 PM)
Yes for me its overprice but not waste..but its help me to gain weight..2-3 years before this i eat a lot but cant gain weight..this only 1 month drink megatuar help me ..gain 7kg...from 42 to 49 now...i must gain around 60kg then stop drinking weight gain n take whey after that...
Thanks reply..
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Any side effect on this megataur mass gainer? saw a lot comment saying it could help to gain 10kg weight in a month, it sounds a bit exaggerated to me. Couldn't find much information or review on this product also. is it a new product? Thanks
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QUOTE(lee90 @ Jul 1 2017, 10:22 PM)
Any side effect on this megataur mass gainer? saw a lot comment saying it could help to gain 10kg weight in a month, it sounds a bit exaggerated to me. Couldn't find much information or review on this product also. is it a new product? Thanks
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till now im using this product...this one quite fast if u skinny
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Pavel Tsatsouline's commando routine is IMO the best mass routine in existence.
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i'm skinny. currently still cannot decide if whey protein or mass gainer should i take. I want to build more muscle but not to be a bulky guys. My height is around 172 cm and my weight is 66 kg. What should i consume whey protein or mass gainer? TQ.
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Hi all, i am selling Alphabolic Alphamass 1000, Double Chocolate, 17lbs/7.711kg (Only 5 gram of sugar per 1000 calories) at only RM160 (retail price RM210++). PM me if interested smile.gif
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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Feb 7 2018, 03:51 PM)
i'm skinny. currently still cannot decide if whey protein or mass gainer should i take. I want to build more muscle but not to be a bulky guys. My height is around 172 cm and my weight is 66 kg. What should i consume whey protein or mass gainer? TQ.
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Consume more food.
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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Feb 7 2018, 03:51 PM)
i'm skinny. currently still cannot decide if whey protein or mass gainer should i take. I want to build more muscle but not to be a bulky guys. My height is around 172 cm and my weight is 66 kg. What should i consume whey protein or mass gainer? TQ.
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Eat. Eat. Eat. Come out with your calorie and macros plan. Without those, you dont need hey or mass gainer. And you will not be too bulky.
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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Feb 7 2018, 03:51 PM)
i'm skinny. currently still cannot decide if whey protein or mass gainer should i take. I want to build more muscle but not to be a bulky guys. My height is around 172 cm and my weight is 66 kg. What should i consume whey protein or mass gainer? TQ.
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ May 28 2018, 04:10 PM)
Eat. Eat. Eat. Come out with your calorie and macros plan. Without those, you dont need hey or mass gainer. And you will not be too bulky.
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Hi, have the same question as gonzalo20. I know taking in (eat) more calories than I need is the way to gain but as my job is quite busy, I don't find it's not easy to split and add the times to take additional meal (e.g. at 11am or 3:15pm), therefore thinking to take whey or mass gainer as it is convenience.

Went through a few post here and saw people mostly recommending whey over mass gainer. However, looks at the calories it offer (take On as example), the mass gainer provides 1250 and whey for 120, almost 10 times calories of whey per serving. so why is whey are prefered over mass gainer if my main purpose is to gain weight and not building muscle?
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QUOTE(nlks @ Aug 26 2018, 04:16 PM)
Hi, have the same question as gonzalo20. I know taking in (eat) more calories than I need is the way to gain but as my job is quite busy, I don't find it's not easy to split and add the times to take additional meal (e.g. at 11am or 3:15pm), therefore thinking to take whey or mass gainer as it is convenience.

Went through a few post here and saw people mostly recommending whey over mass gainer. However, looks at the calories it offer (take On as example), the mass gainer provides 1250 and whey for 120, almost 10 times calories of whey per serving. so why is whey are prefered over mass gainer if my main purpose is to gain weight and not building muscle?
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When I am in office I dont have time to eat too last time. Milk, whey, bread and peanut butter, nuts, oats are my staple. When I have time during dinner I eat dinner to fill up whatwver I need. Find your way to eat. It is easier than finding time to watch youtube. You do not need to split your meals. Just eat.

Whey per serve generally is only 30g. Mass gainer's perserve is whooping scoop. Bigger scoop than the powdered detergent your mum uses to scoop the powder into the washing machine. So go figure. You might as well drink milo.
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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Feb 7 2018, 03:51 PM)
i'm skinny. currently still cannot decide if whey protein or mass gainer should i take. I want to build more muscle but not to be a bulky guys. My height is around 172 cm and my weight is 66 kg. What should i consume whey protein or mass gainer? TQ.
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As what the replies above. Just eat more carbs and work out.
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Top 10 ways for mass gaining.



Perform multi-joint exercises. ...
Eat more protein. ...
Don't just lift heavy. ...
Get plenty of shut-eye. ...
Increase in weight responsibly. ...
Allow time for recovery. ...
Increase calories. ...
Strike the right mix of macros.
Focus on post-workout nutrition
Exercise Regularly

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To gain muscle you need good nutrition!
To do this, you need a sufficient amount of protein, fat and carbohydrates! This is one of my favorite recipes! Great Fish Soup! Perfect for your goal!
How To Make Fish Soup - https://club.cooking/recipe/fish-soup/

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Thanks for good tips about mass gaining
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thanks very useful

hope to gain 10kg from 50 to 60.... in 1 year or 2?

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Just came across this ..
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It is wonder tips which have many feature to gain mass body weight and it is work for calories for our body
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QUOTE(ken86 @ Nov 12 2009, 09:17 AM)
Since I m on a lean mass gaining phase

Generally, a good starting point will be multiplying your lean body weight x 15 and add 500 - 1000 calories to that. You'll have to experiment with this. If u have a crazy-ass metabolism (ectomorphs not skinny fat people) you probably want to start at 500-1000 calories over maintenance. If you have a slow metabolism (LIKE ME !!!) you would want to start at about ~500 calories over predicted maintenance. You'll have to experiment this smile.gif take weekly pictures and show it to the world !!!

protein - at least 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight
carbs - at least 2 - 3 grams per pound of lean body mass
fats - the remaining calories available

Healthy, but Delectable Recipes

now for my favourite breakfast mass gaining shake
(1,111 calorie shake)

Ingredients
12 oz low fat milk (HL? MARIGOLD?)
1 scoop of Whey (Optimum nutrition 100%, Scivation)
1 Low carb yoghurt ( read the labels )
1 banana (medium sized, maybe longer than your WIENER biggrin.gif)
2 tbsp of mixed nuts (I use walnuts and almond mix)
1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil
1/2 cup of Dry oats
2 Splenda / Equal Packets (Optional)

BLEND AND DOWN IT LIKE A MAN

another goodie
Low-Fat Fruit Smoothie

2 Scoops of Whey - Strawberry / Vanilla
Strawberries or Blueberries (Blueberries are expensive over here, Use strawberries instead)
1 big banana
1 cup of instant, non-flavored oatmeal
8 ounces of light yogurt
2 cups of low fat milk
Calories: 850
Protein: 70 grams

Smooth Strawberry Dream
Ingrediets
1 cup plain 2%/non-fat Greek yogurt
1 cup fresh or frozen strawberries
3 tbsp organic coconut milk
1-2 tbsp flax seeds - optional
1 scoop vanilla or strawberry protein powder - optional
splenda if required
ice cubes
Here are the Nutrition Facts for the Smoothie in its original form: Calories 335  Fat 16.5 grams  Carbs 22.5 grams  Fiber 4 grams  Protein 24 grams.

For modified version with optional ingredients - the protein and flax seeds: Calories 524  Fat 22 grams  Carbs 34.5 grams  Fiber 10 grams  Protein 47 grams.

The original form has no so called dietary supplements (eg. whey protein which is a bane for some, for reasons I cannot fathom as well). It taste great and a well balanced meal. enjoy

Banana "Ice Cream"

Looking for some guilt free carb source to fuel your workouts, look no further !
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Here is probably the easiest recipe you will ever find and surprisingly tasty. 

Ingredients

- 2 bananas (frozen)

- Vanilla Essence

There is a couple of ways you could make this – either  puree then freeze or do what i did which was chuck a couple of bananas (peeled) which were about to go black into the freezer, then throw them in the food processor and blend with the vanilla until smooth and creamy – surprisingly not unlike ice-cream.  Depending on how soft/cold you want it, you can either get straight into it or pop it back in the freezer for a while.  The other way to do it would be to puree the fresh bananas then freeze the puree, tho I suspect it would freeze solid and you would have to puree again to regain the creamy texture.

Raspberry sorbet
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Ingredients
1 ½ cups raspberries
½ cup light coconut milk
1 egg white, beaten to soft peaks
½ medium banana
1 tbs honey
1 tbs lemon juice

Instructions
Blend raspberries, coconut milk, banana, lemon juice and honey in a blender on high speed until creamy.

Gently fold raspberry mixture into the beaten egg white. Pour mixture into an ice-cream container/ freezer proof container and freeze for 6 hours or overnight until set.

To serve, cut into slices and scoop it with a spoon. Can be done with blueberries or strawberries or whatever berries that swing your way.

Mango sorbet
Ingredients
1 cup diced mango pieces, frozen
2/3 cup of light coconut milk

Instructions
Blend frozen mango pieces and coconut milk in a blender on high speed until creamy and smooth. serve

Tasty Cold Oatmeal
- Base
1.Blend up a scoop or two of protein powder with water and pour it over some Old Fashioned/Rolled Quaker Oats (or whatever brand, dun be so rigid !). Now, add some frozen berries (optional), 'I buy strawberries and freeze them'

2.Let it sit for 3-4 minutes in the fridge before chowing down

You can always tweak this recipe  say if you use vanilla flavour protein, a hint of cinammon and some pan seared banana slices (use a lil butter to cook it).

or
1. In the base above, replace water with milk and put a little peanut butter as u blend it. Pour over your oats, sprinkle some toasted almond flakes(buy them from the supermarket and toast it in an over at 150C  ) or sunflower seeds or toasted chopped walnuts
2. Let it sit for 3-4 minutes before consuming.

HEALTHY & GUILT FREE NESCAFE ICE
1/2 scoop low carb vanilla protein powder
3/4 cup cold brewed coffee (nescafe or whatever brand that works for u)
4 ice cubes
1/2 cup cold water
4 packets of Equal (optional)
1/2 tsp cocoa to shake things up (I use heinz unsweetened cocoa powder/ possible substitute - if u r not strict on diet can be any chocolate powder (cadbury perhaps?)
My normal main meals where I cooked on sunday and sliced it accordingly

Lean Meatloaf

1 pound 96% Lean Beef
1/4 cup onion,diced
1/2 large green pepper,diced
2 egg whites,beaten
1/4 cup oatmeal
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
8oz reduced sodium tomato sauce

Pepper to taste

Preheat over 350degrees. Mix meat,vegetables,eggs,garlic powder,oatmeal and half of the tomato sauce together in medium sized bowl. Spoon mixture into an 8x8 square baking pan or bread loaf pan sprayed with nonstick cooking spray. Top loaf with remaining tomato sauce and bake for approximately 50 minutes. Makes 4 large slices. (you can put it in a muffin tray, and make some anabolic MEAT MUFFINS !!!!, baking time varies depending on size)

Supplement Facts:
per serving

Calories-172
Carbs-9g
Protein-23g
Fat-5g
Fiber-2g

Rosemary Balsamic Chicken

3 boneless skinless chicken breasts
1 tablespoon rosemary (fresh preferred)
3 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon pepper

When you get home, rinse off the chicken breasts, then throw them in the bag with everything else. Mix it up a little, and let it sit in the fridge for at least two hours to marinate.

To cook, preheat your over to 400 degrees, throw the chicken and stuff into a baking dish, cover it, and let it cook in the oven for 25 minutes, or until the meat reaches 165 degrees. If you don't have a "meat thermometer", separate it with a fork.

I cooked these in big batches. 4kgs at a time, go ahead, laugh , I don't care.

Nutrition Facts:
6 oz of breast = 45g of protein (the spices/condiments are calorie free ! the wonders of knowing your way in the kitchen)
Asian Chicken and Broccoli Stirfry
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Ingredients
8oz 97% lean ground chicken or turkey or beef (can be precooked and shred it when you need em')
2 cups chopped broccoli
1 cup chopped mushrooms
1 tbsp Sesame Oil
1.5 tbsp reduced-sodium soy sauce
garlic powder to taste
ginger powder to taste
Directions
Brown turkey on med to medium high heat (you can go higher if using stainless steel or cast iron cooking pan, for non stick I would stay there) in the sesame oil and soy sauce. Once meat is approximately halfway cooked, add in broccoli and mushrooms and stir. Sprinkle on powders and stir some more until evenly distributed. Enjoy.
There you go. Another delicious and easy recipe. If you want more carbs with it (especially post training), serve hot with rice!
Crispy "Fried" Chicken

2 pounds boneless, skinless chicken breast halves
1/4 cup whole wheat flour
1/2 cup unprocessed bran flakes (optional)
4 egg whites, beaten
1 teaspoon fresh ground pepper
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1 teaspoon parsley
1/2 teaspoon salt
Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Combine all dry ingredients in large bowl and mix well. Dip chicken in egg whites and the coat both sides by dipping them in dry mixture. Dip them again if desired and spray both sides with nonstick cooking spray. Bake chicken in a shallow baking dish for about 30 minutes or until coating and insides of breast are no longer pink.

Taste great and highly palatable ! Give it a honest try u kitchen noobs !

Tuna Melt Patties

1 6oz can tuna in WATER, drained
1 egg, beaten
2 tablespoons oatmeal
2 tablespoons onions, diced
(or 1/4 teaspoon onion powder)
1/4 teaspooon garlic powder
2 tablespoons reduced fat mozzarella / Cheddar

Mix all ingredients except cheese together in a small bowl. Heat a small nonstick frying pan over medium heat and spray with nonstick cooking spray. Make to small patties by spooning half the tuna mixture into each side of the pan and lightly pressing with a fork to flatten into a patty. Cook until both sides are brown. Top with on tablespoon cheese and serve.

For everyone that complains bout plain tuna

"Cocoa-Nut Milk Shake"
2 scoops chocolate protein powder
1 scoop cocoa powder
1 tbsp cinnamon
1/2 cup coconut milk
1/2 cup water
5 ice cubes
Place ingredients into blender for 30 seconds.

not your usual shake but taste like a dream

The Orgasmatron

Ingredients; 
80g (1 cup) rolled oats 
1 large banana 
2 scoops Optimum Nutrition 100% whey, chocolate flavour 
1 tablespoon honey 
1.5 cups 2% fat milk3) Preparation; 
Put 2 scoops of ON chocolate whey into the shaker bottle (must go in first) 
Add 80g of oats 
Chop up the large banana into small slices and add to the shaker bottle 
Add a tablespoon of honey 
Pour in the 1.5 cups of milk 
The trick is NOT to blend this, add the ingredients into the shaker bottle, put the cap on, and shake it, this means that the ingredients mix but the oats and banana slices remain relatively in tact. 

Once the ingredients are all mixed up, add water until you reach the desired consistency. Once you?re happy that the shake is mixed and has enough water simply drink the sweet, chocolate, milky liquid. Once you?ve drunk the liquid get a spoon and eat the rest like a cereal. 
a. 903 calories 
b. 71g protein 
c. 120g carbohydrates 
d. 11g fibre 
e. ? 
f. 17g fat 
i. 7g saturated 
ii. 6g monounsaturated 
iii. 3g polyunsaturated 

This shake is absoloutely ideal for either breakfast or preworkout, it packs a huge number of calories and provides enough protein/carbs to fuel your workout and recovery or kick start your metabolism after the overnight fast. 

good ol' scrambled eggs

Ingredients:

4 Omega-3 enriched local eggs
2% Milk
Butter
Sea Salt
Black Pepper - Those whole black pepper in pepper grinder variant not the pre-grind shit, they taste like smoke ash
Cooking pan
Rubber spatula - This took me a year to figure out and it's the key to some damn good scrambled eggs. Don't be like my unenlightened friends and use one of those burger-flipper spatulas. They're too large and clumsy. You need something svelte, small, and easy to maneuver.

Make the perfect scrambled eggs

1. Crack your eggs against the lip of the bowl and use your thumbs to pull the egg apart. Make sure not to get any shell in the mixture. And keep the yolks! If I find one more person who only cooks with egg whites I'm going to poke him numerous times with my egg-soaked fork and hope he gets salmonella.

2. Heat your nonstick pan on medium heat for a minute or so and toss a teaspoon of butter into the pan.

3. While your pan is heating, pour a little bit of milk into the egg mixture. I'm not sure exactly how much because I've never measured it. My guess is about two tablespoons.

4. Take your fork and beat the hell out of the egg and milk mixture using quick wrist flicks. Your wrist should be moving like you're using one of those old pencil sharpeners that you have to crank with your hand. Make sure to some air into the bowl as it'll make the eggs fluffier. Beat for 30 seconds or so.

5. Making sure the butter is melted and the pan is hot pour the mixture into the pan. You should hear a slight sizzle.

6. Let it sit for 30 seconds to a minute and then take your rubber spatula and start "scrambling" the eggs by pushing the cooked stuff off the bottom and letting the runny yellow part directly onto the pan.

7. After a couple of minutes of scrambling, you should have some nice, fluffy, yellowy-white eggs. I like to pull mine off the stove top before I see any brown spots on the eggs.

8. Dash some salt and pepper on your eggs and eat! Oh, and make sure you complement your eggs with turkey sausage, whole-wheat toast, or some fresh fruit on the side.

Nutritional Facts :
28g of protein, 20g of fat (the good kind), virtually no carbs

Try it a few times and play around with how much milk you add and how long you leave it on the stove top.

these takes way less than 10 minutes to prepare and cook. stop whining.

Home-made Protein Bars

Ingredients
Peanut Butter – 1 cup
Oats – ½ Cup
Protein Powder (preferably chocolate or vanilla) – ¼ cup
Honey - optional
All measurements are approximate since I usually just mix until it looks good.
Optional
o Raisins
o Nuts – pecans, almond, walnuts, cashew, or make a trail mix !
o Dark chocolate pieces – sugar free variant
Instructions
Mix all ingredients. The protein powder will take some of the “tackiness” off of the peanut butter and honey. The mix should not be crumbling. If it is, add another spoonful of PB. If it is too wet add some more oats.
Stick it the mixture between two sheets of wax paper and refrigerate for at least 25 minutes.
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Home-made Protein Bars (Fortified version for the skinnies)

Ingredients

2 1/2 c. (200 g) oats
1 scoop (30 g) whey powder (use chocolate flavor)
2 tbsp. natural peanut butter
3 large egg whites
2 medium bananas (300 g), mashed
1 tbsp. honey
7 tbsp. (approx. 100 ml) non-fat milk or low fat milk
1 tsp. cinnamon

Instructions

Preheat your oven for 5 minutes at 375oF. Mix the oats, the whey and the cinnamon. Add the peanut butter and stir in thoroughly. Add the egg whites, mashed bananas and the honey. Add the non-fat/low fat milk slowly, while mixing thoroughly.
Spoon the mixture into a greased lined cake tin and level with a knife. Place in oven and bake for 15 minutes. Remove from oven and allow to cool slightly before cutting to reduce stickiness. Cut into 8 bars.

Alternatively, just refrigerate them and eat it straight if you don’t have an oven in home.

NUTRITION INFORMATION
Calories (Per Serving): 154
Protein 9.5g
Carbohydrates 21.3g
Fat 3.4g

Tomato and Eggplant Curry
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prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients
. 1 medium eggplant
. 1 large tomato
. 2 Tbsp olive oil
. 1/4 C coconut milk
. 1/2 C chicken broth
. 1 tsp curry powder
. 2 Tbsp sesame seeds
. 2 cloves garlic
. Fresh basil
. 5 oz cooked and diced chicken

Cut the tomato and eggplant into small pieces, then saute them in a large saucepan with the olive oil and curry powder. Saute them until they are soft and begin to break down. Add the remaining ingredients and simmer for 3-4 more minutes. Enjoy!

If you can find Thai fish sauce and red curry paste, these can be added as well and will really enhance the taste.

This meal is high protein, high fat and low carbs - perfect for anytime meals

Cauliflower with Egg Sauce

prep Time: 15 minutes

Ingredients

. 1 head of cauliflower
. 2 tbsp olive oil
. 2/3 C minced sweet onion
. 2 tbsp ground walnuts or almonds
. 2 hard boiled eggs, chopped finely
. 1/4 C fresh parsley or dill Pepper to taste

Boil the cauliflower florets. In a skillet, saute the onions in the olive oil until soft and brown. Stir in the ground nuts, eggs, parsley or dill, and pepper. Toss lightly until blended. Place the cauliflower in a dish, then pour the sauce over it. This can make a great 5 block meal at X5 fat with the addition of a little lean protein - grilled chicken, beef etcetra.

ALMOND MILK
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Use 1 cup of almonds for approximately 1ltr of Almond Milk. one cup almond = approx. < 250g of almonds = 4 x 250ml of almond milk and no it's not expensive at all. 1kg almonds ranges from RM 10 - 20. 20 /4 = RM 5 for 1 ltr almond milk (breakdown)

Directions : -
• Soak 1 cup of almonds overnight (or for a minimum of 6hours). Overnight soaking is the better way to prepare the almonds as more tannins and phytic acids are removed, ultimately enhancing digestibility of the almond milk.

• Place the almonds in a blender along with 3‐4cups of water (you do not need to remove the skins). Blend the almonds for 1minute.

• Sweetener is not necessary especially if fresh almonds are used. If it is desired, however, adding 3‐8 dates or a tablespoon of honey within the blending process will add a hint of sweetness to the almond milk.

• Strain milk through a nut milk bag or a couple of layers of cheese cloth into a bowl or through a sieve (this may result in a little bit of almond fiber in the milk but will sit to the bottom of your jug/cup).

• Keep in an air‐tight container/jug for up to 4‐5days in the refrigerator.

Commercial preparations of almond milk do not have the desired amount of almond nutrients, as pasteurization and other manufacturing processes take their toll on nutrient content. Besides, almond milk has a shelf life of only 4‐5 days, so commercially available almond milk has to add more water and is laced with sugar and preservatives to prolong shelf life. In addition, vitamin E is no longer present and only a few hundred milligrams of essential fatty acids (especially omega‐3 and omega‐6) are left in shop‐bought almond milk.

Almond milk is very nutritious. Each cup (approximately 100g) of raw almonds converted into almond milk is good for 4 servings, and each serving roughly provides 105.3 calories, 4g of protein (or 16g per 100g of almond), 3.6g of carbohydrate, 1.9g of fiber, 23mg of calcium, 5.1mg of sodium, and 9.2g of total fat of which only 0.7g is saturated fat (the 8.5g of unsaturated fat is 92.4% of total fat)

Apple and Almond Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
½ cup diced green apple (skin removed)
½ tsp natural vanilla essence
2 scoop of protein powder - vanilla

Place ingredients into a blender and blend for 1min.

Nut Crunch Shake
Ingredients
1 cup almond milk
2 ice cubes
1 tbs almond butter
½ tsp cinnamon
1 tbs crushed nuts
2 scoops of protein powder - chocolate or whatever swings your way

Place all ingredients except for the crushed nuts into a blender and bend for 1min. Once poured into a glass, sprinkle top with crushednuts

Marinades - New Section
All Purpose Marinade
1/4 cup olive oil
2 tablespoons of balsamic vinegar
2 tablespoons of whole grain mustard
1 teaspoon of onion powder
1 teaspoon of garlic powder
1 teaspoon of oregano
1 teaspoon of thyme
1 teaspoon of rosemary
Salt and pepper
Approved 'Clean' Foods - Wanna gain some lean mass, then starting eating Whole 'Clean' Foods, ditch the junk

Proteins
 Chicken Breast
 Egg Whites
 Lean Beef
 Lean Fish
 Low-Fat Dairy products
 Protein Powder
 Turkey Breast
Carbohydrates
 Amaranth
 Beans
 Brown Rice Tortillas
 Fruit
 Oats
 Pasta
 Quinoa
 Potatoes
 Rice
Vegetables
 Asparagus
 Bell Peppers
 Bok Choy
 Broccoli
 Carrots
 Cauliflower
 Celery
 Cucumbers
 Green Beans
 Lettuce
 Onions
 Spinach
 Squash
 Tomatoes
Fats
 Avocado
 Cheese
 Whole Omega 3 Eggs
 Hummus
 Nuts
 Oils
 Olives

Short tip of eating clean - try to eat foods that take lesser 'STEPS' to prepared.

Simple tips

If you are still struggling to gain weight
Tip 1 - Graze Healthily - Still whining about not being able to eat enough? Geez. Okay, try this: throw two servings of dried fruit (I like RAISINS the best) into a sandwich bag with two servings of omega-3 rich walnuts. That's about 12 dates and a half cup of shelled walnuts.

Place these in your car, your desk at work, or your locker at school. Snack at will. Consume the whole bag in one day and you'll have ingested an easy 640 healthy calories. Have one bag a day and you'll get over 4400 extra calories per week, all from healthy fruits and nuts.

Tip 2 - Olive oil shooters - Get a shooter glass and down it 2 - 3 times a day (use it sparingly unless you are a pure ectomorph, clearly I m not one so I don';t use it)

Tip 3 - Essentials -

Raw nuts. They're cheap, healthy, and portable.  They also pack some healthy fats and a little protein — the type of calories that aren't likely to end up on your waistline.

Canned tuna and salmon. Great sources of protein that are also convenient and portable.

Fruits and veggies. You can't eat enough of these. The ones in the store are fine, but the ones you pick up at the local farmer's market are even better (and probably organic as well).

Rolled oats Nothing fancy, but a great source of fiber and slow-digesting carbs. Avoid the instant packets. Buy the store brand if you need to save some money. Look for just one ingredient on the label: whole rolled oats.

So you will never run out of food and give excuses to F***ing binge.

Tip 4 - Eat Clean 90% of the time, follow John Berardi's 90% Rule say I eat 42 meals a week (6 meals a day) I have the privilege of eating 4 meals of whatever I want (keep in moderation please)

Tip 5 - Eat lean protein with every meal,  Get most of your carbs in the morning, take your fish oils

Tip 6 - Rest and Recover - Contrast Bath, Self Myofascial Release using a FOAM ROLLER / PVC Pipe , Hiring Pizzaboy to loosen you out, Soft tissue work with golf ball/tennis ball (piriformis, rotator cuffs, peroneals, calves, etc)

Tip 7 - Do your conditioning - Don't wanna turn in tub of fat lard , do the conditioning drills shown below

Tip 8 - MILK is NOT the best food product for lean mass gain but perfect for weight gaining. Lactose is just not a good carb source, not to mention many people are allergic to it. Casein and whey are exceptional protein sources though, but get them on their own without the fat and lactose found in milk.

Tip 9 - Drink Ample Water - It's essential to stay hydrated as muscle tissues are 75% water and blood is over 90% water. A rule of thumb would be 0.6 ounces of water for every pound of BW. Eg. a 200 lbs male would drink 120 ounces, 3.5 litres water a day.

Tip 10 - Prepare your meal in advance - When you are not prepared, you are at the mercy of what's available at restaurants, hawker stalls , etc.

'An hour in the kitchen' - Sunday Meal Prep Ritual

*Boiling pot of water, used for steaming one batch after another of a variety of fresh veg (for example, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, chard, spinach, brussels sprouts, asparagus).

*In the oven, I'll be cooking yams in a glass dish with water (I use yams as my starch of choice for fueling my endurance training!), along with some plain chicken breast, perhaps, or maybe some fresh black cod or salmon...

*I might also prepare a marinade to use on some grass-fed skirt steak, after I've tenderized it with a mallet; using extra virgin olive oil, fresh garlic, lime juice cilantro and a dash of cayenne pepper (as long as one is not following the AI plan, this is acceptable).

*I may also create a marinade for some chicken- perhaps a pesto using basil, garlic, walnuts, pine nuts,
lemon and olive oil.

*I'd wash whole fruit (apples, oranges, pears, peaches, grapes, and so on).

*After everything is cool, store in small, portable containers that you will be able to grab in a flash en route to the office or school when you're rushing out the door in the morning! Be sure to place in each container- some protein, some healthy unprocessed carbohydrate (fruit/veg) and some good fat (avocado, flax, olive oil) etc..


Nutrition Tips for the Busy

Here’s a collection of tips to help you “get your eat on” in a healthy and inexpensive manner without having to devote hours of your day to food preparation.
At home
Start off your mornings with a blender shake consisting of dry oats, a protein powder blend, and some healthy fats like walnuts or flaxseed oil. Prepare the shake “dry” at night by putting all the ingredients in a Tupperware container. In the morning, all you’ll have to do is put some ice and water in the blender, dump in the contents of the container, and blend for about thirty seconds. This way you can prepare and consume your first meal of the day in just a few minutes.
Prepare all your meals on one day of the week. Choose a day when you’re not very busy, like Sunday, to cook all your meats, vegetables rice, and other items. Divide what you prepare into meals that you can
freeze in separate containers. Each night before you go to bed, take out what you need for the following day and let it thaw overnight in the
fridge. This might sound like a lot of work at first, but after a couple of weeks, it will become part of your regular routine.
On the road
Keep your car and office stocked with items like tuna pouches, a sleeve of rice cakes, bottled water, some protein meal replacement packets, or canisters of nuts.
Didn’t pack any food? Stop at a supermarket instead of a fast food joint. Most supermarkets have salad bars, sushi, and other healthy options.
Most fast food restaurants now offer a healthy menu. Choose items like chicken salads, chicken wraps, and baked potatoes. Deli-style fast food restaurants where you can get a turkey or chicken sub on whole wheat bread are other good options.
In the office
Pack a lunch. Not only will this save you money, but you’ll also have complete control over what you eat each day.
At a business lunch? Most restaurants should have a healthy choice like a chicken salad (skip the dressing), a piece of fish, or baked/broiled chicken with some steamed vegetables. Ask to have any sauces or condiments put on the side.
Not enough time for a meal at work? Keep a couple of pre-made protein shakes (a couple scoops of protein powder, some oats, and some calorie-free sweetener) in plastic shaker bottles at your desk or in your toolbox.In less than thirty seconds, you can add water and consume the entire “meal.” These emergency meals will also come in handy if you ever have to work an extra long shift and don’t have anything else prepared.
The first step to success is making a firm commitment to a healthy diet. Once that’s done, solutions with arise on their own. With a little bit of planning and determination, even the busiest schedule will be no obstacle to sound nutrition.
Zig zagging your calories -  the basic premise is to reduce calories on non training days'
The idea is similar to carb cycling - I m sure everyone heard of carb cycling, I use exclusively the rules from Shelby Starnes after consulting him many times
MEN

High day

Carbs: 2-3 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1-1.25 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.5-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 1.25-1.5 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.15-0.35 grams per pound of body weight

WOMEN
High Day

Carbs: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.75 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: as little as possible

Low and moderate days

Carbs: 0.2-0.5 grams per pound of body weight
Protein: 0.9-1.0 grams per pound of body weight
Fat: 0.1-0.2 grams per pound of body weight

Sample for a 250 lb male
High Day


Meal 1 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 2 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 3 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 4 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
meal 5 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 6 : 90g carbs, 40g protein
Meal 7 : same

Low to Moderate Day
Meal 1 : 60g protein, 80g carbs
meal 2 : 60g protein, 50g carbs, 5g fat
Meal 3 : 60g protein, 10g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 4 : 60g protein, 80g carbs (or whenever postworkout)
Meal 5 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables
Meal 6 : 60g protein, 15g healthy fat, green vegetables

Carb cycling is a wonderful plan as you can do it both ways - more high days and less low days for lean mass gain and less high days more low days for weight loss.
You need to experiment this or post your diet if you wanna try carb cycling.

I personally used high, med, low days. For now, 1 high day on monday, other training days are med days, and remaining days are low days. I will monitor my progress and add more high days. Some weeks I feel flat , I would add a SUPER HIGH DAY 1000g of carbs to replenish my glycogen and to jump start my metabolism.

Glycemic Index

Question: Should I be concerned with the glycemic index of carbs?

Answer: I get asked bout this a lot, seriously GI is not rocket science. Although I think it's silly to base an entire diet book on glycemic index alone, it is still something that should be considered.

To get everyone up to speed, the glycemic index (G.I.) is a measure of how quickly a carbohydrate ends up as glucose in the bloodstream. Simple (typically more sugary) carbs are digested very rapidly and have a high G.I. This results in significant amounts of glucose flooding the bloodstream at once. Complex carbs, on the other hand, are in essence time released and are characterized as having a low G.I. This is much better as it results in fewer ups and downs in both energy and appetite. However, consuming carbohydrates with other foods like protein, fibrous carbs, and fat slows the digestion of the carbs in that meal. Therefore, the glycemic index of the carbohydrate itself becomes slightly less important. Although the glycemic index is something that you should keep in the back of your mind, eating natural, unprocessed carbs is a far more important consideration. Bananas and white potatoes, for example, have a fairly high glycemic index but are still good nutrient dense foods that are perfectly fine to consume on a fairly regular basis, especially if you consume them with protein and fibrous carbs
(vegetables) as you should be doing anyway.

Let me put it this way: if the worst thing you do is eat carrots, bananas, and potatoes... you will do just fine! best time to put your carbs (excluding non-fibrous carbs especially like cruciferous vegetables) is breakfast and postworkout.

carbs is your friend , use it to your advantage, don't be a carb phobic !
Conditioning & Energy system training (also called cardio) -

You wanna gain some mass with minimal fat gain, do SOME CONDITIONING DRILLS !

Plate/Car pushes
An exercise mat, and some plates, you can accomplish this excellent conditioning exercise. Place a mat (or towel) on the ground, put plates on the mat, push. It’s that simple. or just push your CAR

Try 60 yards for five rounds with 60 seconds rest between rounds. It’s a great place to start.

Wrestler’s circuit
This is a wrestling coach’s circuit, and I found it very effective. Aim to use 70–80 percent of your competition weight (the top of your weight class). This is going to take you anywhere from 1.5–2 minutes to complete

A 185-lb fighter could use 135 lbs to start with:

Clean X 5
Romanian deadlift X 5
Front squat X 5
Overhead press X 5
Clean X 5


Perform with as minimal transition time between exercises as possible. 

Legal eagle drill
I found a fitness qualifications manual for the RCMP or Canadian Army as some standards for their applicants. You can customize this to your own nation’s requirements. It’s just simply something to play with, and it’s very customizable. I’d recommend throwing it in every so often and testing to see where you’re at. Once you beat the standards, make it more difficult.


2.5 Kms/1.5 mile run, 11 minutes minimum, 9 minutes is ideal
40+ push-ups
40+ sit-ups
5+ full ROM pull-ups

I put this up in a hurry, time to get back to the lab smile.gif

Add blast straps (I made my own blast straps using chains and D-handles, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANNA KNOW HOW), a weight vest, the incline on a treadmill, or weighted pull-ups to increase the difficulty level.

Barbell complexes
These are familiar to everyone by now thanks to Alywn’s infamous articles. Here is an example:


Deadlift
Romanian deadlift
Shrug
Clean
Upright row
Overhead press
Back squat
Row

You can literally create any combinations that you dream of. Rep ranges are dependent on you, but it is recommended that you stick between 6–8 reps. The rule is keep the bar moving quickly. A simple method is to perform one round, add weight, and perform again for time. Here’s an example:


Circuit one

R1: Start with the barbell.
R2: Add 10 lbs to the bar (55 lbs).
R3: Add another 10 lbs to the bar (65 lbs).
R4: Remove 10 lbs (55 lbs).
R5: Just use the bar.

Rest periods can last from 30–60 seconds.

Louie’s Olympic “tri-plex”
This is a simple Olympic lift complex where a single lift is performed in each of the three exercises. Then you rest for 30 seconds. Start each rep with your knees on the floor to help build up explosive power in the hips


High pull
Clean
Clean and press


When working with Kevin Randleman, Louie is rumored to have used this circuit to build up Kevin’s amazing explosive speed and strength. Mind you, Kevin used 200 lbs. Start slowly and work your way up in both time and weight.

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Added on November 12, 2009, 9:19 amMust Read article from John Romano. (to all everyone that has been asking what supplement works and all, DIET AND TRAINING IS YOUR BEST SUPPLEMENT !!)

The most commonly asked question I ever get is, "does ____work?" I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been asked that question by a guy looking for the answer. From this or that supplement; to this or that drug; to this or that training method; high-carb or low-carb; high intensity, low intensity; for every possible machination of bodybuilding, someone has asked me for my opinion. Do I look like I know? I'm only five-nine, 205! I just like to train. So, for the most part, I really don't care if the subtle nuances in this great big thing we practice make that much of a difference. I just do what I like and whatever doesn't aggravate my injuries. After 35years it's not going to make that much difference to me anyway. And since it doesn't matter to me, I've been five-nine, 205, for a really long time. I'm, actually, quite happy staying right here in the groove that works for me. While weighing 260 might look pretty cool on my frame, I have no desire to do so. That's not to say I never did...

At some point in my mid-20s, I got up to a little over 230 and couldn't stand it. I was always walking around with my mouth open, glazed in sweat and wheezing like an old Ford with a leaky head gasket. I had a gallon jug of water in one hand and cooler in the other, and if either got below a quarter full while I was stuck in traffic, I began to panic. A "real job" was totally out of the question, so my income was derived by a smattering of various activities, half of them illicit, and none of them more than five miles from Gold's. Had my stellar genetics gone any higher than my knees, perhaps I would have chased this endeavor a bit further, but, in this business, being smarter than you look has its advantages.

So, here I am, steeped in physical mediocrity, albeit through jaundiced eyes. While anyone who has this much time in the iron game has it all over the average Joe, I'll never look in the mirror and see it that way; not with guys like Jay Cutler running around at my height and outweighing me by 100 pounds. And I really don't care anymore. Yet, because of where I am, what I've done, and who I know, I still get the questions about drugs, supplements and training from guys who look at a guy like Cutler and can't possibly begin to imagine the magnitude of what they‘re looking at.

I really can't blame anyone for being so in-awe and yet so lost. With so much bullshit to waddle through, I don't even know why anyone would put their magazine down and head out to the gym. Science, science, science.... Who gives a f*** about science? Anyone who does looks like they do. Jay Cutler doesn't give a rat's ass about science. Only the stringy little geeks do. What matters is what works in the real world - in the gym, and on contest day. University studies are for wimps because empirical knowledge trumps science every time. So, inevitably, you guys turn to us for the truth. And when you do, you get such a cold dose of reality that I sometimes think some people might feel better being lied to. There are enough illegal performance-enhancing drugs out there to grow hair on the Statue of Liberty. Then there are the legal ones,: pro-hormones, supplements, meal replacements, protein powders, training regimens and diet philosophies, all geared to building muscle and burning fat. No one could possibly do all of them, so they inevitably ask: "Does ____ work?"

In all the years I've been in this business, that question was only answered once to my satisfaction by anyone meaty enough to do so- Mike Matarazzo. His answer, "Everything works, but nothing works all the time," was his answer, and it has been my mantra since he uttered it. It's perhaps the single greatest truth in bodybuilding. Hence, it's in your better interest for me to answer the question, "does ____ work?" by telling you, "maybe." I say this regardless of whatever it is, because if I, or anyone else, tells you "yes," you're likely to give lesser credence to the only two things that work all the time in favor of something that might work some of the time.

What two things work all the time? Eating and training! True, this site would be awfully small and we'd have no advertisers if that's all there was to it, but until you have those two things dialed in, you're wasting your time, money and energy on anything else. I see too many guys who put the weight down after 10 reps and head to Denny‘s, and then wonder why, after a year, they only have 12-inch arms and no abs. Then, frustrated, their solution is to come to me and ask for a stack to put on mass. As comical as that may sound to some of you, to many of you it may well be a revelation. Ferocious training intensity and spot-on nutrition are 95 percent of the game. The other five percent can't possibly make up for it-no matter what it is. So go eat and go to the gym. Do that first, then start asking about what works. Intensity and consistency will always be the best medicine.
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Thanks for sharing this! Need to try it out soon.
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Good thread! Thanks for this.
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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Nov 12 2009, 10:19 AM)
hey bro, nice article u put up ere..btw, juz wondering, how much do u spend on solid food alone?
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