start here guys.. the new V2 progres thread!
old thread can be found here : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry27534649
Training, Pictures and Progress Thread V2, Show Pictures to prove yourself!
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 Jul 27 2009, 12:28 AM, updated 17y ago
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jonesy, ur still alive?
damn... anyway, at the anabolic gym later people will know how each other look like hehe post more pics guys jones how about u |
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Jul 28 2009, 12:14 PM
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hmm..gto force.. how come u know so much about the banned stuff... interesting...
 yea.. post more pics!! interesting!!... currently im in my basketball season.... no gyming.... all cardio work..aih.. |
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Jul 28 2009, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jul 28 2009, 12:14 PM) hmm..gto force.. how come u know so much about the banned stuff... interesting... ohyea.. post more pics!! interesting!!... currently im in my basketball season.... no gyming.... all cardio work..aih..  since these stuffs are actually interesting to see how those huge ass bb'ers got their stuff and i can easily hail fire on those rookies who thought that steroids are the only way to get big (it is but with proper education of course) hahaha |
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of course i'm alive omg lol.. i'm doing normally fine. haha
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Jul 29 2009, 09:02 PM
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Abs on Leg day. Wish my lats and legs would progress faster. Ab training is a bare minimum but still got progress. Sorry bad lighting.
1st progress pic on this thread!  
There finally got it fixed. This post has been edited by John91: Jul 29 2009, 11:44 PM |
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hhm is it just me or the picture ain't loading?
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jul 29 2009, 10:38 PM) hhm is it just me or the picture ain't loading? It's not just you. =/ Not loading for me either. |
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Nice abs bro!
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Jul 30 2009, 07:34 AM
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There finally got it fixed. [/quote] Cool  |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:46 AM
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FUIYO, abs yang amat gila.
Put on somemore mass, u gona look awesome John. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:05 AM
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Working on it lol. Gained 2kg so far. Another 14kg to go lol. 1st salary coming out soon, hoping to make the best out of it to gain mass.
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Jul 30 2009, 10:20 AM
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hehe, wat u need is to buy more meat.
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Jul 30 2009, 11:11 AM
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Chicken breast, whey and tuna is what I plan to get haha. Freakin expensive for a month's cost for a student.
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Jul 30 2009, 11:24 AM
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No one should be allowed to have abz like that...
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Jul 30 2009, 11:35 AM
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nice abs there john91. If you can add more mass, then you are good
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Jul 30 2009, 11:35 AM
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damn those abs....
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Jul 30 2009, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Jul 29 2009, 09:02 PM) Abs on Leg day. Wish my lats and legs would progress faster. Ab training is a bare minimum but still got progress. Sorry bad lighting. 1st progress pic on this thread! There finally got it fixed. 
Bad lighting fixed!  BTW, You're my freakin inspiration! I salute you!  This post has been edited by emino: Jul 30 2009, 12:03 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 12:45 PM
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easy on the tuna. I keep saying this but it seems like no one cares.
A better option is mackerel or pacific pilchard. http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~frf/sea-mehg.html |
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Jul 30 2009, 01:06 PM
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They sell mackeral in cans? Its convenient despite the mercury. I prefer to eat straight from the can tho.
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Jul 30 2009, 02:01 PM
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All you need now is a better haircut.
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Jul 30 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 30 2009, 11:51 AM)
Bad lighting fixed! BTW, You're my freakin inspiration! I salute you!  I must keep hard workout as well TURBO!!!!  |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:05 PM
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John did you feel cold when in air cond and need to pee constantly? lol..
just asking to see whether my problem is normal Chow |
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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 30 2009, 03:05 PM) John did you feel cold when in air cond and need to pee constantly? lol.. ME ME Coz I make sure i drink ALOT of waterjust asking to see whether my problem is normal Chow This post has been edited by metalfreak: Jul 30 2009, 03:24 PM |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Jul 30 2009, 01:06 PM) They sell mackeral in cans? Its convenient despite the mercury. I prefer to eat straight from the can tho. Yes they sell salmon in cans, pilchard in cans (better source than tuna), mackerel in cans, sardine in cans.DESPITE the mercury is an understatement really. You have to limit them to about 3 cans a week. I can go through about 14 cans a week on a good week, just to put things into perspective. So that's more than 3x if I was taking tuna. I stopped taking fish though, not really a big fan. |
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Jul 30 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 30 2009, 03:38 PM) Yes they sell salmon in cans, pilchard in cans (better source than tuna), mackerel in cans, sardine in cans. I take about 1 - 2 cans a week. I alternate chicken breast and beef in between...DESPITE the mercury is an understatement really. You have to limit them to about 3 cans a week. I can go through about 14 cans a week on a good week, just to put things into perspective. So that's more than 3x if I was taking tuna. I stopped taking fish though, not really a big fan. |
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Jul 30 2009, 05:45 PM
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Hoo, nice abs! I'm too lazy to try and burn off that last bit of flab on my lower abs. The idea of an 8-pack just isn't happening for me.
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john...is it that its damn difficult for u to get fat?? how come so low bf 1?
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Jul 30 2009, 09:00 PM
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Took this picture about 1/2 weeks ago. Lats are coming along reasonably, I think.
[attachmentid=1109913] Also, felt a little vain today, thus the new avatar. |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:47 PM
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wow... nice abs u hav there john...
make me feel like giving more on my abs after looking at ur progress pics... keep it up |
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Jul 30 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 30 2009, 04:05 PM) John did you feel cold when in air cond and need to pee constantly? lol.. Hmm... I pee constantly all the time lol. I think more than average, shit also more than average XD. just asking to see whether my problem is normal Chow Thx all, I don't know why my bf so low, and don't ask me what diet i take, I sapu carbs like crazy wan to keep myself from losing weight and to "replace" protein. Just doing more of those ab exercise that I hate. Like hanging leg raises. |
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Jul 30 2009, 10:01 PM
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Bah, it's all genetics.
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Jul 31 2009, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Jul 30 2009, 11:11 AM) Chicken breast, whey and tuna is what I plan to get haha. Freakin expensive for a month's cost for a student. dudeget musclemilk seriously |
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Jul 31 2009, 02:44 AM
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hmm been a while since ive been here... allround weight improvement..lost bodyfat.. .decided on oflining my journal......no real time to update larh.. sick... sticking to old school pen and paper..
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QUOTE(emino @ Jul 30 2009, 11:51 AM)
Bad lighting fixed! BTW, You're my freakin inspiration! I salute you!  i've been trying to get at ur stage but darn, ppl say i'm getting big..damn it!  |
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Jul 31 2009, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 31 2009, 02:59 AM) dude Expensive la dude, get ON better. Its the cheapest out there.get musclemilk seriously |
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Jul 31 2009, 10:31 AM
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hahah coz he is selling
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QUOTE(John91 @ Jul 31 2009, 09:56 AM) Expensive la dude, get ON better. Its the cheapest out there. Isit true that ON is for bodybuilders? My trainer say that if i take it it will only be wasted because some of the ingredients i cant absorb yet.  |
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Jul 31 2009, 11:40 AM
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you cant absorb ...YET??.. ahhaha.. wow.... maybe when u bodybuild for few years like ur trainer than ur intestine suddenly develops additional absorbing qualities.....
dude.. ON whey.. is a protein suplement.. basically ..its protein..with a couple of added chemicals..... u are a human being...ur entire muscular system is made mainly of proteins.....i hypothesize that u CAN use ON.... the thing your trainer should have mentioned is that ON whey is expensive... and is a meal SUPPLEMENT..... so go ahead and get your daily meals stabilized then use supplements to perfect ur protein intake... |
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QUOTE(ecVk @ Jul 31 2009, 11:23 AM) Isit true that ON is for bodybuilders? My trainer say that if i take it it will only be wasted because some of the ingredients i cant absorb yet. did u sense the bull sheet scent from ur trainer's mouth?Sorry for the rudeness but i dont like ppl giving false info. Jangan marah arh. Protein is protein, u eat meat u get protein there is no such thing that u cant absorb protein, if u r into weightlifting, u will need Grams/pound of of ur body weight of protein intake and to gain weight ofcoz ur calories intake needs to be taken care of. (Basically ur diet) ON protein is no magical although some of the protein may say sumthing like giving u ultimate super power muscle gain, actually eatting meat or eggs can give u the same result. Supplement just a easier way to have protein intake and as well as for its convenient. Again i apologize for any area that i have offended u. |
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 31 2009, 11:31 AM) hahah coz he is selling XD i was gonna say that but I thought it would sound rude.On a side note, some time ago recently I said my arms grew from 13" to 13.75" in half a year or something like that and I was aiming for 2" growth in 2 yrs. Well, I think now it has been around 8-9 months, measured today and my arms half pumped are 14.75".  Huhu, aim for 18" This post has been edited by John91: Jul 31 2009, 11:50 AM |
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hey john91.... its all just water...... ur body is trying to trick u...............
...... . . . kidding.... .75 of growth is DAMN good.... congrats..! need to ask u this...... do u experience movement flexibility loss? |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:17 PM
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Just went to your blog...
the lady's voice is sweet You're the bassist huh? |
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Jul 31 2009, 12:26 PM
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ahaha.. yea
... i am... the ladys voice is indeed sweet |
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jul 31 2009, 01:13 PM) hey john91.... its all just water...... ur body is trying to trick u............... Yep, when I grow, certain places are harder to reach, twist and turn. But it should all be fixed with stretching movements in the long run, only I'm too lazy to do them. It most prolly would be water lol, still on creatine. I'll measure again soon. ...... . . . kidding.... .75 of growth is DAMN good.... congrats..! need to ask u this...... do u experience movement flexibility loss? Nice I play the bass too  you from UCSI? |
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Jul 31 2009, 01:07 PM
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naah... im from upm... but my band mates are frm ucsi
u play bass... hmmm many bbers are also musicians.......or maybe we r just cool AHHAHAHAHAHAdamnit ..anyone got good effective hamstring exercises.... really good ones that hurt... im having reaallly unbalanced legs..quads are huge compared to my hams.... from sideways looks like i got half moon shaped legs..  |
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Jul 31 2009, 01:14 PM
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high volume lying leg curls. should get the job done eezy peezy.
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Jul 31 2009, 01:20 PM
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thats the problem.. i dont know why when i do leg curls my leg CRAMPS up.. friggin hamsting start pulling like HELL.....and its very painful to lie with weight pressing on my quads............. HOW!! ARRGH
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braindead,
Romanian deadlift, single leg romanian deadlift, glute-ham-raise, hyperextensions? |
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what's wrong with romanian deads/SLDL ? Note SLDL is not exactly stiff legged all the way, there is some give around the knee area.
Please refer instructional videos before attempting http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112127931 Also, dynamic stretches would help. |
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legs action just for fun
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QUOTE Isit true that ON is for bodybuilders? My trainer say that if i take it it will only be wasted because some of the ingredients i cant absorb yet. i think what your trainer meant is that you already eat enough protein and if you take extra then it will be used for energy or stored as fat rather than building muscle. This post has been edited by CatDog: Aug 1 2009, 09:14 AM |
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Bahger, bata's wheels come out d lol. Never fails to impress.
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Woah! Bata!
Look at those quads! Envy... envy! |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 1 2009, 12:25 PM) Woah! Bata! We haven't seen your photos for quite some times. Whats going on ? Look at those quads! Envy... envy! This post has been edited by shanecross: Aug 1 2009, 12:41 PM |
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I have shrunken! Went to 59 then now drop back to 56. Haven't been eating and sleeping well for some time too.
So I segan to post anything since there's no progress. I look almost the same as the previous photo. P.S. Maybe I should do a JonYeap. Delay posting pics forever! |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 1 2009, 01:59 PM) I have shrunken! Went to 59 then now drop back to 56. Haven't been eating and sleeping well for some time too. Well, its your call to post or not. cheers So I segan to post anything since there's no progress. I look almost the same as the previous photo. P.S. Maybe I should do a JonYeap. Delay posting pics forever! |
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I noticed a discussion on hamstrings earlier, maybe this will help:
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article...t_of_hamstrings I wouldn't call myself a bodybuilder, but i play the guitar |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 1 2009, 04:35 AM) legs action just for fun Solid wheels...but in my opinion, your legs are so much bigger than your torso, but you get the credit for training your legs very hard...I can't train my legs that well.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Chow Do you have problems finding a pair of jeans to wear? My thighs are not big but after started squatting I couldn't wear jeans anymore and I had to turn to khaki pants. |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 1 2009, 04:38 PM) Solid wheels...but in my opinion, your legs are so much bigger than your torso, but you get the credit for training your legs very hard...I can't train my legs that well. yes, you are right. i once train my legs 2x per week because i thought they are my weak parts. turn out i was wrong...lollDo you have problems finding a pair of jeans to wear? My thighs are not big but after started squatting I couldn't wear jeans anymore and I had to turn to khaki pants. my chest and back are my weak part, hence my torso look damn slim...lol still can wear jeans but they start to become tight......if become big like Shukri (heavyweights mr Malaysia), well that time maybe got some problems Chow |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 1 2009, 05:38 PM) Solid wheels...but in my opinion, your legs are so much bigger than your torso, but you get the credit for training your legs very hard...I can't train my legs that well. Haha same case. When i wear jeans now its my quads and thighs supporting the jeans, not the waist. Do you have problems finding a pair of jeans to wear? My thighs are not big but after started squatting I couldn't wear jeans anymore and I had to turn to khaki pants.  |
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QUOTE(John91 @ Aug 1 2009, 11:57 PM) Haha same case. When i wear jeans now its my quads and thighs supporting the jeans, not the waist. Same here too. My school pants are getting tight around the quads but they're loose around the waist. |
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well,i want to try something new, videos!
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 04:21 AM) well,i want to try something new, videos! tak boleh blah siot vids kao faiz as in, gile tinggi confidence kao hehe triceps are there but i guess others need more def methinks |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 04:21 AM) well,i want to try something new, videos! need to get more def |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 2 2009, 04:37 AM) tak boleh blah siot vids kao faiz HAHAHAHas in, gile tinggi confidence kao hehe triceps are there but i guess others need more def methinks saje try bro.now im still on high calorie diet because takut nanti puasa make me shrink so yeahh, after puasa,i will show my VIDEO again HAHA QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Aug 2 2009, 06:47 AM) need to get more def yeah. not aiming for def yet. thanks for the commnt bro! |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 11:32 AM) HAHAHAH correct ....saje try bro.now im still on high calorie diet because takut nanti puasa make me shrink so yeahh, after puasa,i will show my VIDEO again HAHA yeah. not aiming for def yet. thanks for the commnt bro! |
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 nak share jek, my aim to get bigger and bigger and i know still so much body fat, hahhhaha its ok, as long i look big boleh laaa comment apa yg patut k thanks Body weight 86kg ---> 100kg ----> 123kg ---- Now 120kg |
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Aug 2 2009, 01:47 PM) nak share jek, my aim to get bigger and bigger and i know still so much body fat, hahhhaha its ok, as long i look big boleh laaa comment apa yg patut k   thanks Body weight 86kg ---> 100kg ----> 123kg ---- Now 120kg Your arm could probably crush my head. Seriously, that much size in a short period of time! This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 2 2009, 01:58 PM |
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holy shit balls! about friggin ballbanging time you start cutting and see what you're made off. cut all the way until can see abs edi!
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Aug 2 2009, 02:47 PM) nak share jek, my aim to get bigger and bigger and i know still so much body fat, hahhhaha its ok, as long i look big boleh laaa comment apa yg patut k thanks Body weight 86kg ---> 100kg ----> 123kg ---- Now 120kg |
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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Aug 2 2009, 02:38 PM) Do you believe if you tell people you go to gym and lift heavy load, ppl wont believe .... yeah, even when i dont have abs, my friends call me chubby because most of the fat goes to my face |
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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Aug 2 2009, 01:58 PM) holy shit balls! about friggin ballbanging time you start cutting and see what you're made off. cut all the way until can see abs edi! hahaha..lolAl@n2rock you can be part time bouncer edi bro....my God youre huge Chow |
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Aug 2 2009, 01:47 PM) nak share jek, bro, snap a picture of yourself standing...from your neck till thigh ke, waist ke...and don't resize to small la...x puas la bro... my aim to get bigger and bigger and i know still so much body fat, hahhhaha its ok, as long i look big boleh laaa comment apa yg patut k thanks Body weight 86kg ---> 100kg ----> 123kg ---- Now 120kg so u just wanna be big ?? no intention to cut down bf ?? bahaya bro...senang kena high blood pressure woo... p/s : idola ko mesti bob sapp kan ?? hahaha |
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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Aug 2 2009, 03:38 PM) Do you believe if you tell people you go to gym and lift heavy load, ppl wont believe .... Dude,I can't actually interpret what you were saying but I'm assuming you are saying that its pointless to lift heavy in the gym. Stop being an irritating physique junkie. Just because we aren't mirror monkeys, that doesn't mean we don't bust our bums real hard. You will then come up with the corny line " It doesnt matter how much you lift, how much you look like you can lift " rubbish. Jesus, take it easy man....... ____________ Some progress photos.. not progress actually....all natural baby....hahaha.. I should start benching more frequent and more creatine!!!hahah!!screw the bloating 
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Aug 2 2009, 01:47 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nak share jek, my aim to get bigger and bigger and i know still so much body fat, hahhhaha its ok, as long i look big boleh laaa comment apa yg patut k   thanks Body weight 86kg ---> 100kg ----> 123kg ---- Now 120kg I sure hope there's some reasonable amount of muscle beneath all that. Its time to start cutting, You current state does not look healthy at all. however you'd make 1 hell of a scary bouncer! QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 2 2009, 05:02 PM) Dude, i think what he meant was that alan does not look like have the bodybuilder look at the moment and ppl might just think he's fat and not workout.I can't actually interpret what you were saying but I'm assuming you are saying that its pointless to lift heavy in the gym. Stop being an irritating physique junkie. Just because we aren't mirror monkeys, that doesn't mean we don't bust our bums real hard. You will then come up with the corny line " It doesnt matter how much you lift, how much you look like you can lift " rubbish. Jesus, take it easy man....... This post has been edited by tineagle: Aug 2 2009, 05:10 PM |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 2 2009, 05:02 PM) Dude, he's saying "outside" people cant really differ muscle mass than fat mass, they will think physique like angrydog also fat.I can't actually interpret what you were saying but I'm assuming you are saying that its pointless to lift heavy in the gym. Stop being an irritating physique junkie. Just because we aren't mirror monkeys, that doesn't mean we don't bust our bums real hard. You will then come up with the corny line " It doesnt matter how much you lift, how much you look like you can lift " rubbish. Jesus, take it easy man....... ____________ Some progress photos.. not progress actually....all natural baby....hahaha.. I should start benching more frequent and more creatine!!!hahah!!screw the bloating
so Kmaru's saying if alan's goal to look like bodybuilder he need to cut down a bit. Chow |
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Aug 2 2009, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 2 2009, 06:53 PM) he's saying "outside" people cant really differ muscle mass than fat mass, they will think physique like angrydog also fat. Oh yeah? Well he needs to set his words straight. BBing isn't the only sport in the world.so Kmaru's saying if alan's goal to look like bodybuilder he need to cut down a bit. Chow |
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Aug 2 2009, 06:15 PM
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haha, some people not so good with words i think
anyway, u need chest and delts, same goes with me Chow |
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Aug 2 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 2 2009, 07:15 PM) haha, some people not so good with words i think Yeah, i totally agree. I need to put some serious upper body work.anyway, u need chest and delts, same goes with me Chow |
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Aug 2 2009, 06:56 PM
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What Im trying to say is.... Its pointless if you wanna grow big without a lil of muscle definition, BIG is not an issure for most of use here.... I can just sit eat and train to be at 90kg... Do you want ppl to ask "which gym do you go" or do you have to tell ppl that "i go to the gym"
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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Aug 2 2009, 07:56 PM) What Im trying to say is.... Its pointless if you wanna grow big without a lil of muscle definition, BIG is not an issure for most of use here.... I can just sit eat and train to be at 90kg... Do you want ppl to ask "which gym do you go" or do you have to tell ppl that "i go to the gym" LoL, its hard for me to put myself in your position. Why the heck would I want someone to ask which gym do I go to? Added on August 2, 2009, 6:57 pmwhats up with all natural baby ? I'm just being a fecker with the all natural thing. |
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hey bata... u play basketball?.. can hang? or worse ..dunk?... good thighs with small upperbody is a classical asian dunker bod..ahhaha... demm larh..
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Aug 2 2009, 07:24 PM) hey bata... u play basketball?.. can hang? or worse ..dunk?... good thighs with small upperbody is a classical asian dunker bod..ahhaha... demm larh.. im short how the hell i can dunk...wahaha....i was a sprinter though....maybe can try Open comps later Chow |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 2 2009, 08:06 PM) LoL, its hard for me to put myself in your position. Why the heck would I want someone to ask which gym do I go to? are you talking about budak87 ? I ask because he say that he was a PT, so I wish to know from which gym..I'm just being a fecker with the all natural thing. |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 2 2009, 07:06 PM) LoL, its hard for me to put myself in your position. Why the heck would I want someone to ask which gym do I go to? if you're big and well defined (low bf in alan's case), ppl will straightly ask him, "which gym do you go ??" ... means that ppl will and easily notice that you're hitting the gym without you say a word about it...I'm just being a fecker with the all natural thing. but, if you're just big and a bit muscular (maybe like alan's physique now), ppl will not easily notice (hard to tell) wether you're hitting the gym or just naturally/genetically big and muscular...so, you might have to tell ppl that you're actually working out in a gym...lifting those irons... it's all about telling your passion in bodybuilding via your physiques...no need to talk and spread around the story of how you work you ass out in a gym...  |
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Aug 2 2009, 08:41 PM
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Cut..... Cut....... Cut.........
Thanks for all the advise will try to cut more, hopefully can la........ hate doing cardio |
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Aug 2 2009, 08:42 PM
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Well, you guys won't believe it, but I had this very famous Malay BB champion who later did adverts for Shelltox in my apartment once when I was 19. I can't recall his name. You have heard of him. Household name.
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 2 2009, 08:42 PM) Well, you guys won't believe it, but I had this very famous Malay BB champion who later did adverts for Shelltox in my apartment once when I was 19. I can't recall his name. You have heard of him. Household name. mamat tu confessed pakai steroids (addicted tak silap i)With a T-shirt on, he simply looked fat. Like bloated. some of his friends are my gym mates |
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Aug 2 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 2 2009, 09:42 PM) Well, you guys won't believe it, but I had this very famous Malay BB champion who later did adverts for Shelltox in my apartment once when I was 19. I can't recall his name. You have heard of him. Household name. Said Fazli.... Yes bloated is the right word...With a T-shirt on, he simply looked fat. Like bloated. |
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Aug 2 2009, 09:36 PM
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No, not Said Fazli. I can't remember his name. This guy is long retired from BB. I'm not sure though, because I do not own a TV, avoid watching TV and avoid reading Malaysian newspapers.
Added on August 2, 2009, 9:42 pmHe had this very wholesome image. When I talked to him in my student apartment, I realised why. He is a nice guy, and unaffected by his celebrity status. Added on August 2, 2009, 9:45 pmMalek Noor This post has been edited by kotmj: Aug 2 2009, 09:45 PM |
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Malek Noor?
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Aug 2 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 2 2009, 08:42 PM) Well, you guys won't believe it, but I had this very famous Malay BB champion who later did adverts for Shelltox in my apartment once when I was 19. I can't recall his name. You have heard of him. Household name. malik noor did shelltox adverts? SERIOUS? With a T-shirt on, he simply looked fat. Like bloated. |
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Aug 2 2009, 10:42 PM
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Well if not Shelltox then Ridsect or some other brand of mosquito killers. But it was a very long time ago. Back when I was sucking my thumb and watching Transformers, Thundercats, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 10:28 PM) malik noor did shelltox adverts? SERIOUS? He did, apparently.  http://www.video4viet.com/watchvideo.html?...elltox%20(1991)I wasn't even born then! XD This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 2 2009, 10:43 PM |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 10:28 PM) malik noor did shelltox adverts? SERIOUS? Yup long time ago, Malik Noor the 1st shiltox model i still remember hahahahah, budak lagi time tue i ofthen meet Said Fazli at the gym i go, people said he has his twin brother and both are huge, if dia ada time aku train, aku malu nak train rase aku kecik jek hahahahahaha |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 2 2009, 10:28 PM) malik noor did shelltox adverts? SERIOUS? yes....he was Malaysian's Arnold...in fact punching the mosquitoes that Syed Fazli done now originally from him watch this Chow This post has been edited by bata: Aug 2 2009, 10:47 PM |
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Aug 2 2009, 10:59 PM
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la malek noor ke
ingat si fazli tu he's very much berjasa to malaysia tapi sayang last last jadi gay hmm.. |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 2 2009, 10:45 PM) yes....he was Malaysian's Arnold... LOL! I remember that ad!in fact punching the mosquitoes that Syed Fazli done now originally from him watch this Chow |
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Aug 2 2009, 11:23 PM
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i wasnt born yet that year
thanks for the video, btw, now he does look bloated,but still have that monster forearms. |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 2 2009, 10:45 PM) yes....he was Malaysian's Arnold... LOL, I remember this ad. I remember watching it a couple of times on TV while watching cartoons on TV1 at 7pm on Saturdays. I don't know why they have to use hardcore BBers to model their insecticide ads, and not a celebrity like a singer/actor.in fact punching the mosquitoes that Syed Fazli done now originally from him watch this Chow |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 3 2009, 12:42 AM) LOL, I remember this ad. I remember watching it a couple of times on TV while watching cartoons on TV1 at 7pm on Saturdays. I don't know why they have to use hardcore BBers to model their insecticide ads, and not a celebrity like a singer/actor. Because the image of Malik Noor, a strong man, bashing up mosquitoes looked way more impressive than the image of Ziana Zain pricking her fingers when attempting to kill the mosquitoes. |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 3 2009, 12:42 AM) LOL, I remember this ad. I remember watching it a couple of times on TV while watching cartoons on TV1 at 7pm on Saturdays. I don't know why they have to use hardcore BBers to model their insecticide ads, and not a celebrity like a singer/actor. why not? he was a national athlete.How many commercials have you seen with singers and actors in it? Too many ads in todays media use these celebrities to carry brands. As usual, Malaysia does not know how to appreciate its sportsman and sportswomen. If you see overseas ads, many feature sports figures; ranging from clothing lines, soaps brands, shampoos, to pretty much anything under the sun. we should be proud that our fellow BBers get such acknowledgement and recognition. This post has been edited by tineagle: Aug 3 2009, 01:01 AM |
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hey john may i knw any tips to get abs like urs? how long have u been doing it?
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QUOTE(Al@n2rock @ Aug 2 2009, 10:44 PM) Yup long time ago, twin ?? no wonder la they look alike...i tot little bro...his twin was competing on Mr Malaysia couple of weeks ago...but finished last...not as ripped as his brother tho...got muscle defect on his chest...look weird...i'll try look for his picture later...Malik Noor the 1st shiltox model i still remember hahahahah, budak lagi time tue i ofthen meet Said Fazli at the gym i go, people said he has his twin brother and both are huge, if dia ada time aku train, aku malu nak train rase aku kecik jek hahahahahaha |
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   Source : www.tegap.net this year mr. malaysia got alot of people didnt do PCT eh? alot of bit*h tits lahh. |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 3 2009, 02:05 AM) twin ?? no wonder la they look alike...i tot little bro...his twin was competing on Mr Malaysia couple of weeks ago...but finished last...not as ripped as his brother tho...got muscle defect on his chest...look weird...i'll try look for his picture later... Syed Fazli way more bigger..hehe...oh and thats not muscle defect..thats gyno Chow |
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wow the muscle looks gorgeous! Wonder how they pump!
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what the ... gyno. So how do they get rid of it ? Using some kind of drug or fat burner ?
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « is something wrong with his chest?? |
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hahahaha i notice it too, mcm cacat sikit le........
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 4 2009, 07:25 AM) what the ... gyno. So how do they get rid of it ? Using some kind of drug or fat burner ? surgeryChow |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 4 2009, 07:25 AM) what the ... gyno. So how do they get rid of it ? Using some kind of drug or fat burner ? QUOTE Gynecomastia, pronounced /ˌɡaɪnɨkɵˈmæstiə/, is the development of abnormally large mammary glands in males resulting in breast enlargement. The term comes from the Greek γυνή gyne (stem gynaik-) meaning "woman" and μαστός mastos meaning "breast". The condition can occur physiologically in neonates (due to female hormones from the mother; this is called witches' milk), in adolescence, and in the elderly. In adolescent boys the condition is often a source of distress, but for the large majority of boys whose pubescent gynecomastia is not due to obesity, the breast development shrinks or disappears within a couple of years.[1] The causes of common gynecomastia remain uncertain, although it has generally been attributed to an imbalance of sex hormones or the tissue responsiveness to them; a root cause is rarely determined for individual cases. Breast prominence can result from hypertrophy of breast tissue, chest adipose tissue and skin, and is typically a combination. Breast prominence due solely to excessive adipose is often termed pseudogynecomastia[2] or sometimes lipomastia.[3] From wikipediaGynecomastia should be distinguished from work hypertrophy of the pectoralis muscles caused by exercise, e.g. swimming, bench press. Types of Gynecomastia There are multiple manifestations of gynecomastia. The following types have the same basic features of gynecomastia in common, namely, hypertrophy of the male breast glandular tissue, but vary in size, shape, and the extent to which they are intermixed with adipose and fibrous tissue. Puffy Nipples [1] is among the most common forms of gynecomastia. This glandular tissue accumulation is concentrated under and typically confined to the areola, or can be slightly extended outside the areola forming a dome shaped appearance to the areola. Pure Glandular (Bodybuilders) [2] Gynecomastia in bodybuilders may be a result of the use of anabolic steroids. Due to their low level of body fat, bodybuilders and other athletes are sometimes afflicted with gynecomastia in its purest form. Gynecomastia in lean men is usually only a breast tissue gland with little to no adipose tissue. Proper treatment of pure gynecomastia can be done only by excision of the breast tissue, which in the case of bodybuilders is by itself sufficient to achieve a flat nipple-areola complex. Liposuction is only rarely necessary. Adolescent [3] Congenital or Hereditary Gynecomastia is typically evident by the ages of 9 to 14 in boys. Thirty percent to sixty percent of young boys suffer from large male breasts. As many as thirty percent may live with enlarged male breasts for the rest of their lives, but in other cases the gynecomastia will recede with age. However, severe forms of adolescent gynecomastia may require an intervention, in consultation with the patient, the parents, and child development professionals. Adult [4] The most common form of gynecomastia. Gynecomastia in most adults is composed of glandular tissue but may contain varying quantities of adipose and fibrous tissue. Pseudogynecomastia [5] is composed not of glandular tissue, but of adipose tissue. It looks much like real gynecomastia but requires different treatment. Exercise and diet may be effective in combating pseudogynecomastia. Only if this regimen is unsuccessful should surgery be considered. This is generally the only type of gynecomastia which can be improved with liposuction, but excision may be indicated in some cases. Asymmetric/Unilateral [6] Unilateral gynecomastia occurs when only one breast is larger due to gynecomastia, the other breast is typically normal in both size and shape. Bilateral Asymmetry occurs when gynecomastia is present in both breasts, each to a different degree. Severe Gynecomastia [7] is characterized by excess and/or saggy skin and severely enlaged breasts . This is itself determined in part by age, as older persons suffering from gynecomastia tend to have less skin elasticity and thus will have a greater abundance of excess skin related to gynecomastia. Experienced plastic surgeons will perform as much of the surgical treatment of severe gynecomastia as possible through an aereolar incision so as to avoid extensive scarring. However, some scarring may be unavoidable when treating extreme cases of gynecomastia Treatment Treating the underlying cause of the gynecomastia may lead to improvement in the condition. Patients should talk with their doctor about revising any medications,such as risperdal, that are found to be causing gynecomastia; often, an alternative medication can be found that avoids gynecomastia side-effects, while still treating the primary condition for which the original medication was found not to be suitable due to causing gynecomastia side-effects (e.g., in place of taking spironolactone the alternative eplerenone can be used.) Selective estrogen receptor modulator medications, such as tamoxifen and clomiphene, or androgens (typically bio-identical testosterone) or aromatase inhibitors such as Letrozole are medical treatment options, although they are not universally approved for the treatment of gynecomastia. Endocrinological attention may help during the first 2–3 years. After that window, however, the breast tissue tends to remain and harden, leaving surgery (either liposuction, gland excision, skin sculpture, reduction mammoplasty, or a combination of these surgical techniques) the only treatment option. Many American insurance companies deny coverage for surgery for gynecomastia treatment on the grounds that it is a cosmetic procedure. Radiation therapy is sometimes used to prevent gynecomastia in patients with prostate cancer prior to estrogen therapy. Compression garments can camouflage chest deformity and stabilize bouncing tissue bringing emotional relief to some. There are also those who choose to live with the condition. This post has been edited by faiz92: Aug 4 2009, 03:06 PM |
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apsal la ko highlight bench press tu......kan dia tulih distinguished tu la...
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 4 2009, 03:04 PM) apsal la ko highlight bench press tu......kan dia tulih distinguished tu la... SILAP BROChow HHAHAHA tak baca betul betul.sorryyy |
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You know, I never realized that gynecomastia could only occur on one pectoral and not the other. Huh.
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You sure it's gynecomastia? Coz gynecomastia will look like a real boob which hangs or puffy nipples. I think it's a congenital defect of the pectoralis major muscle since it looks solid and arising from the muscle.
Anyway, has anyone here experienced pain and the small joints on the fingers, wrist and knee? There was tenderness and reddnening of the 4th proximal interphalangeal joint of my left hand 2 days ago, which subsided 1 day ago and today there's tenderness on the left 1st interphalangeal joint of my left hand and left knee. I have been having on and off tenderness and reddening of my left and right 1st interphalangeal joint for the past 3 years which always subside after an acute episode of pain lasting for 1 to 2 days without medication. There's restriction of mobility of the joint during the episode. There's no deformity of the hand and feet joints. Could it be gout? This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 5 2009, 12:20 AM |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 4 2009, 03:00 PM) surgery yes surgeryChow because estrogen inhibitors like arimidex (rm600 per box) cannot reverse the effects tamoxifen (nolvadex) and clomid are not inhibitors but estrogen blockers normally, the 2 are used when gyno is detected during steroids cycles ala, diorang nak pakai steroids, tapi tak PCT and tak buat trial and error tu yang dapat gyno its really ugly... and kalau takut pakai esters, pakai la testosterone and equipoise (e.g. boldenone) these have less or no androgenic effects QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 5 2009, 12:09 AM) You sure it's gynecomastia? Coz gynecomastia will look like a real boob which hangs or puffy nipples. I think it's a congenital defect of the pectoralis major muscle since it looks solid and arising from the muscle. dude gynecomastia has a lot of variety of it as posted before...doctors can usually detect...nak tau how each look like cannot depend on written description This post has been edited by gtoforce: Aug 5 2009, 12:19 AM |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 5 2009, 12:18 AM) yes surgery Well if that is the case, then it's the first time I've seen such a pointy male breast on a ripped person.because estrogen inhibitors like arimidex (rm600 per box) cannot reverse the effects tamoxifen (nolvadex) and clomid are not inhibitors but estrogen blockers normally, the 2 are used when gyno is detected during steroids cycles ala, diorang nak pakai steroids, tapi tak PCT and tak buat trial and error tu yang dapat gyno its really ugly... and kalau takut pakai esters, pakai la testosterone and equipoise (e.g. boldenone) these have less or no androgenic effects dude gynecomastia has a lot of variety of it as posted before... doctors can usually detect...nak tau how each look like cannot depend on written description Any pictures of him in the previous competitions? Does he have that distorted left chest in his previous pictures as well? Because common sense is telling me that I won't be going on stage if I have gynecomastia unless it's a congenital deformity which has been there since birth and can't be corrected. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 5 2009, 12:29 AM |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 5 2009, 12:24 AM) Well if that is the case, then it's the first time I've seen such a pointy male breast on a ripped person. dunno him so i dont really pay much attentionAny pictures of him in the previous competitions? Does he have that distorted left chest in his previous pictures as well? Because common sense is telling me that I won't be going on stage if I have gynecomastia unless it's a congenital deformity which has been there since birth and can't be corrected. but gyno is more shameful on bb'ers than fat persons cuz well, its evident u pakai steroids and have no knowledge about it |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 2 2009, 10:59 PM) la malek noor ke R u sure dude?i mean i juz can't imagine he's gay?he doesn't look like one tho..but i heard stories.. ingat si fazli tu he's very much berjasa to malaysia tapi sayang last last jadi gay hmm..  Added on August 5, 2009, 10:16 am QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 5 2009, 12:09 AM) You sure it's gynecomastia? Coz gynecomastia will look like a real boob which hangs or puffy nipples. I think it's a congenital defect of the pectoralis major muscle since it looks solid and arising from the muscle. might be athiritis..your symptom is similar with my parents..i maybe wrong la..try and check with the doctor..coz my dad sakit the same place like yours.. Anyway, has anyone here experienced pain and the small joints on the fingers, wrist and knee? There was tenderness and reddnening of the 4th proximal interphalangeal joint of my left hand 2 days ago, which subsided 1 day ago and today there's tenderness on the left 1st interphalangeal joint of my left hand and left knee. I have been having on and off tenderness and reddening of my left and right 1st interphalangeal joint for the past 3 years which always subside after an acute episode of pain lasting for 1 to 2 days without medication. There's restriction of mobility of the joint during the episode. There's no deformity of the hand and feet joints. Could it be gout? This post has been edited by D_Predator: Aug 5 2009, 10:16 AM |
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really gay ker???now i see the malek noor insaf video on youtube..talking about how he been very bad those past year..but gay..damn....
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Hahahahaha i tot this tread more into posting progress pic
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its not really nice to say things about someone, someone that has a name for himself summore....plus you're not really sure about it...lol
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 5 2009, 12:09 AM) You sure it's gynecomastia? Coz gynecomastia will look like a real boob which hangs or puffy nipples. I think it's a congenital defect of the pectoralis major muscle since it looks solid and arising from the muscle. apart from the tenderness and reddening, do you feel hot on the area ?? but then, gout rarely healed itself...either you take the roids injections or ibuprofen...and you have to take alupurinol for the rest of your life...and gout is a kind of arthritis...Anyway, has anyone here experienced pain and the small joints on the fingers, wrist and knee? There was tenderness and reddnening of the 4th proximal interphalangeal joint of my left hand 2 days ago, which subsided 1 day ago and today there's tenderness on the left 1st interphalangeal joint of my left hand and left knee. I have been having on and off tenderness and reddening of my left and right 1st interphalangeal joint for the past 3 years which always subside after an acute episode of pain lasting for 1 to 2 days without medication. There's restriction of mobility of the joint during the episode. There's no deformity of the hand and feet joints. Could it be gout? |
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why allopurinol?
wouldn't you take probenecid because allopurinol is a xanthine oxidase inhibtor and only 10% of the patients are 'overproducting" uric acid. The remaining 90% would benefit from probenecid. See a doctor to assess whether it's gout. Unlikely that you have it so young unless you're genetically predisposed to it. |
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Aug 6 2009, 02:46 AM) why allopurinol? Ya I always wanted to see a doctor but by the time I want to go to a doctor the swelling and redness all subsided and there's nothing to show.wouldn't you take probenecid because allopurinol is a xanthine oxidase inhibtor and only 10% of the patients are 'overproducting" uric acid. The remaining 90% would benefit from probenecid. See a doctor to assess whether it's gout. Unlikely that you have it so young unless you're genetically predisposed to it. Like now, the pain and redness have already subsided. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 6 2009, 12:26 PM |
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Aug 6 2009, 02:46 AM) why allopurinol? dunno the details but from every clinic I went, the doctors will include allupurinol together with others medications...my father and my grandfather have gout...so, it's genetic... wouldn't you take probenecid because allopurinol is a xanthine oxidase inhibtor and only 10% of the patients are 'overproducting" uric acid. The remaining 90% would benefit from probenecid. See a doctor to assess whether it's gout. Unlikely that you have it so young unless you're genetically predisposed to it. |
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Aug 7 2009, 03:32 AM
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I see it now, probenecid is not without side effects, so allopurinol is preferred as first line.
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Finally broke the 100kg mark for deadlift. Pulled 102kg for 1RM today!
My back seems to be progressing quite decently in terms of thickness and a bit of detail. Wish I could say the same for my front. [attachmentid=1125647] This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 8 2009, 04:08 PM |
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Cool bro !!!!
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Needs traps. You got stretch marks on the lower back region? I do and its rather obvious.
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QUOTE(John91 @ Aug 8 2009, 11:16 PM) Needs traps. You got stretch marks on the lower back region? I do and its rather obvious. Need lots more traps. And yeah, I've got stretch marks there too. |
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My deadlift, row and shrugs instrument...
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 8 2009, 04:07 PM) Finally broke the 100kg mark for deadlift. Pulled 102kg for 1RM today! Hey.....that's not fair. You're my height, my weight, but look so much better than me. My back seems to be progressing quite decently in terms of thickness and a bit of detail. Wish I could say the same for my front. [attachmentid=1125647] |
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looks ugly for me =="
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 8 2009, 04:07 PM) Finally broke the 100kg mark for deadlift. Pulled 102kg for 1RM today! Good job at getting lean, but in my opinion, you need more mass. My back seems to be progressing quite decently in terms of thickness and a bit of detail. Wish I could say the same for my front. [attachmentid=1125647] |
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QUOTE(FirstOne @ Aug 9 2009, 12:33 PM) looks ugly for me ==" Total absurd statetment. |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 9 2009, 04:01 AM) Hey.....that's not fair. You're my height, my weight, but look so much better than me. Can't be. I thought you were easily 10-15kg heavier than me. I'm only 65kg at the moment. But you lift muthafrigging tons more than me. QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 9 2009, 01:13 PM) Good job at getting lean, but in my opinion, you need more mass. I agree with you there. Quite a bit more, in fact. =/QUOTE(FirstOne @ Aug 9 2009, 12:33 PM) looks ugly for me ==" To each his own, mate, to each his own.This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 9 2009, 06:45 PM |
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 2 Years ago when i'm serious bb'ing  now don't have time and just started back the routine |
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edit* need everything lol. Your serious doesn't look serious to me.
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I start damn skinny liao...Start with the weight of 59kg...in first pic is around 73kg below only 68kg...With the height of 183cm...Din go to gym just home gym...
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Aug 10 2009, 11:34 AM
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maybe u can include ur pic before?
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Aug 10 2009, 12:10 PM
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73kg for 183cm is still underweight dude. Me also home gym
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QUOTE(John91 @ Aug 10 2009, 12:10 PM) 73kg for 183cm is still underweight dude. Me also home gym I am 178 now 67kg. Don't give up.hoping to have been able to reduce it to 63. |
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Aug 10 2009, 01:23 PM) I am 178 now 67kg. Aim to reduce BF%, not weight in general.hoping to have been able to reduce it to 63. |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 10 2009, 02:32 PM) Aim to reduce BF%, not weight in general. If he loses bf% , I dont see anything left . He needs more mass,therefore more food = more money. |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 10 2009, 01:34 PM) If he loses bf% , I dont see anything left . He needs more mass,therefore more food = more money. I meant to say that to the general public, not him specifically. xP |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 10 2009, 01:32 PM) Aim to reduce BF%, not weight in general. how? mind to demonstrate a bitcheers. |
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Aug 10 2009, 02:13 PM) how? mind to demonstrate a bit demonstrate or elaborate?cheers. well, wat he meant was... reduce the fats in ur body. and have those masses turn into muscle instead of fats. muscle and fat are totally different. would u rather have 10% bf at 70kg or 20% bf at 65kg? u think for urself... =.= |
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hehehhe...do i look like Johnny Depp?  Chow |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 10 2009, 07:50 PM) hehehhe...do i look like Johnny Depp? Bloody hell. You could be his long lost brother. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Chow |
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wahahah. . bata.. .u friiiiggin small last time... crap.. i also same weight probabl 3 years ago... ... but more taller. ahhahaha lol
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QUOTE(ex660 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:18 PM)
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 11 2009, 12:28 AM) naturally meso? wats meso ?... throughout the year.. i only take whey protein and multi vit...no other supplements.. and .. is already supplement free for a month now... whey protein is too heaty for me.. |
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QUOTE(ex660 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:39 AM) wats meso ? you took it throughout the year and just a months back u realized whey protein caused heaty-ness ?? ... throughout the year.. i only take whey protein and multi vit...no other supplements.. and .. is already supplement free for a month now... whey protein is too heaty for me.. |
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QUOTE(ex660 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:18 PM)
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Monthly progress time!
August 11, 2009    Previously July 5, 2009    Flashback: Jan 9, 2007  Mar 27, 2007  I feel like whacking that person in the Jan 9, 2007 pic and force him to eat more. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 11 2009, 10:49 AM |
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Arrgghhh stupid office internet, all florian pic cannot see la.......go home only can see....tension........$&%^$*(&@#*$
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Florian you have huge arms and shoulders. Nice
Btw, when you put on a tight shirt, is your nipple-shape visible from the outside? I have a pointy chest and that's what happens when I put on a shirt tighter than normal. Anyone here like that? |
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Aug 11 2009, 12:14 PM
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Great arms and chest. Jesus, you have huge traps!
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Aug 11 2009, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 11 2009, 11:42 AM) Florian you have huge arms and shoulders. Nice Thanks Btw, when you put on a tight shirt, is your nipple-shape visible from the outside? I have a pointy chest and that's what happens when I put on a shirt tighter than normal. Anyone here like that? No need tight shirt, normal XL T shirt also can see. Maybe it's because I'm fat. I don't remember having that problem 4 years ago when I was like 59kg. Need to lose that fat but how??? I only know how to bulk. But beneath my nipple is just soft and when I squeeze it it's nothing inside and I can feel the chest muscle right beneath it, so I'm confused whether it's gynecomastia or not coz in gynecomastia underneath the nipple will have a round mass inside. I'm pretty upset with it. QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 11 2009, 12:14 PM) Great arms and chest. Jesus, you have huge traps! Thanks.I've only been doing side DB shrugs for the past 3+ years on shoulder and/or chest days. Now I just started to change it to back DB shrugs because my gym has only 50lbs DBs and I need a burn on my traps. Need to hold long for shrugs. A lot of people doing it wrongly by doing it fast and rotating the shoulder while shruging. For shrugs just lift your shoulders hold, then slowly go down, like when you're doing "I don't know" sign. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 11 2009, 01:33 PM |
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Aug 11 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 11 2009, 11:42 AM) Florian you have huge arms and shoulders. Nice put a bodyfit shirt then, if small loose shirt of coz can see...lolll....very tight shirt will press "it" down...lol Btw, when you put on a tight shirt, is your nipple-shape visible from the outside? I have a pointy chest and that's what happens when I put on a shirt tighter than normal. Anyone here like that? QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 11 2009, 01:28 PM) Thanks puffy nipples also a sign of gyno, no need steroid use also can cause gyno, from foods, from increase of BF level also.No need tight shirt, normal XL T shirt also can see. Maybe it's because I'm fat. I don't remember having that problem 4 years ago when I was like 59kg. Need to lose that fat but how??? I only know how to bulk. But beneath my nipple is just soft and when I squeeze it it's nothing inside and I can feel the chest muscle right beneath it, so I'm confused whether it's gynecomastia or not coz in gynecomastia underneath the nipple will have a round mass inside. I'm pretty upset with it. Thanks. Chow |
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Aug 11 2009, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 11 2009, 01:28 PM) I've only been doing side DB shrugs for the past 3+ years on shoulder and/or chest days. Now I just started to change it to back DB shrugs because my gym has only 50lbs DBs and I need a burn on my traps. Need to hold long for shrugs. A lot of people doing it wrongly by doing it fast and rotating the shoulder while shruging. For shrugs just lift your shoulders hold, then slowly go down, like when you're doing "I don't know" sign. seriously, i love your traps bro...your long neck helps to make it look nicer...yes i second that...DON'T rotate when shruggin...it's no use... |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 11 2009, 03:04 PM) seriously, i love your traps bro...your long neck helps to make it look nicer...yes i second that...DON'T rotate when shruggin...it's no use... Yeah, my neck was awkwardly long before I started training. It looked like those ladies in Chiangmai with those rings on their neck. Maybe my trapezius muscle has a higher attachment. |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 11 2009, 02:12 AM) you took it throughout the year and just a months back u realized whey protein caused heaty-ness ?? ON & Scivation Whey was ok ... minimal to moderate heatyness..and the results was also . ok ok only.. But for Nitrotech.. .. that 3 months brought me into another level.. and also gained 5kg+ .. but.. the heatyness ... need not to mention... its hardcore as well.. hehe.. so i've stopped taking whey powders for a month.. and only rely to milks.chicken breast.eggs.. diet also back to normal.. but of cos avoids pork fats/fats.. ... for now. will be taking in 1 can tuna + 1/2 pack HL milk for post workout.. if you look properly.. Blue Bay Shredded Tuna has 27g protein per 100g serving. 1 can is 170g. seems like incorrect info on d label.. |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 10 2009, 04:11 PM) demonstrate or elaborate? how do i achieve low bf?well, wat he meant was... reduce the fats in ur body. and have those masses turn into muscle instead of fats. muscle and fat are totally different. would u rather have 10% bf at 70kg or 20% bf at 65kg? u think for urself... =.= |
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Aug 11 2009, 10:33 PM) how do i achieve low bf? Cardio to burn off fat and get your diet in check. There, now go do some of your own research. |
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Aug 11 2009, 10:33 PM) how do i achieve low bf? =.= go for liposuction... |
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im new here..wana ask how to really gain some weight..
im very thin but i eat alot..i try a few weight gain supplement and it didnt work out well so im here to ask u all some opinion..tell me step by step to gain some weight...slightly fat abit will look gud on me |
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QUOTE(fr3edwin @ Aug 11 2009, 11:16 PM) im very thin but i eat alot.. |
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QUOTE(fr3edwin @ Aug 11 2009, 11:16 PM) im new here..wana ask how to really gain some weight.. step by step lagi? wakakka...im very thin but i eat alot..i try a few weight gain supplement and it didnt work out well so im here to ask u all some opinion..tell me step by step to gain some weight...slightly fat abit will look gud on me go search la... go see stickies... if u lazy, then live with it... =.= |
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QUOTE(fr3edwin @ Aug 11 2009, 11:16 PM) tell me step by step to gain some weight 1. Wrong thread. This is a "Training, Pictures and Progress Thread"2. Since I'm kind I'll answer your question in step 3. 3. Read http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/367750 4. Be patient. 5. Be consistent. 6. Read more about nutrition and training, but not from Mens Health, pls. 7. Eat Meal 1 8. Eat Meal 2 9. Eat Meal 3 10. Train your @ss off, squat and press, make sure everyday is not biceps and abs day. 11. Eat Meal 4 12. Eat meal 5 13. Eat meal 6 14. Sleep 7-9 hours a day 15. Repeat Step 4. Have a nice day. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 11 2009, 11:39 PM |
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QUOTE(fr3edwin @ Aug 11 2009, 11:16 PM) im new here..wana ask how to really gain some weight.. If you think you eat a lot, you obviously aren't eating enough. Eat more.im very thin but i eat alot..i try a few weight gain supplement and it didnt work out well so im here to ask u all some opinion..tell me step by step to gain some weight...slightly fat abit will look gud on me |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 11 2009, 11:37 PM) 1. Wrong thread. This is a "Training, Pictures and Progress Thread" Hahahahah Florian too many free time to list down all this 2. Since I'm kind I'll answer your question in step 3. 3. Read http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/367750 4. Be patient. 5. Be consistent. 6. Read more about nutrition and training, but not from Mens Health, pls. 7. Eat Meal 1 8. Eat Meal 2 9. Eat Meal 3 10. Train your @ss off, squat and press, make sure everyday is not biceps and abs day. 11. Eat Meal 4 12. Eat meal 5 13. Eat meal 6 14. Sleep 7-9 hours a day 15. Repeat Step 4. Have a nice day. |
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Bodybuilder with gynecomastia. Whether a shirt is overtight or overloose, the same problem happens. I've been hitting my upper chest a lot so as to make those nipples less visible in a tight shirt lol. Added on August 12, 2009, 12:44 pm QUOTE(bata @ Aug 11 2009, 02:46 PM) put a bodyfit shirt then, if small loose shirt of coz can see...lolll....very tight shirt will press "it" down...lol Increase in bf would cause that too? Hmmm then I'll have to cut to solve the prob. I've always had this prob and by bbing, i was hoping to put an end to this. Mana tau....same same only puffy nipples also a sign of gyno, no need steroid use also can cause gyno, from foods, from increase of BF level also. Chow This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Aug 12 2009, 12:45 PM |
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 12 2009, 12:36 PM)
Bodybuilder with gynecomastia. Whether a shirt is overtight or overloose, the same problem happens. I've been hitting my upper chest a lot so as to make those nipples less visible in a tight shirt lol. Added on August 12, 2009, 12:44 pm Increase in bf would cause that too? Hmmm then I'll have to cut to solve the prob. I've always had this prob and by bbing, i was hoping to put an end to this. Mana tau....same same only |
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 12 2009, 12:36 PM)
Bodybuilder with gynecomastia. Whether a shirt is overtight or overloose, the same problem happens. I've been hitting my upper chest a lot so as to make those nipples less visible in a tight shirt lol. Added on August 12, 2009, 12:44 pm Increase in bf would cause that too? Hmmm then I'll have to cut to solve the prob. I've always had this prob and by bbing, i was hoping to put an end to this. Mana tau....same same only  |
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 12 2009, 12:36 PM) Bodybuilder with gynecomastia. Whether a shirt is overtight or overloose, the same problem happens. I've been hitting my upper chest a lot so as to make those nipples less visible in a tight shirt lol. Added on August 12, 2009, 12:44 pm Increase in bf would cause that too? Hmmm then I'll have to cut to solve the prob. I've always had this prob and by bbing, i was hoping to put an end to this. Mana tau....same same only actually gyno is normal la, almost all boys got it in puberty stages, some go away some are not. QUOTE(D_Predator @ Aug 12 2009, 05:27 PM) dude,i wish i had those pecs..honestly it looks fine..serious..damn..gotta go to the gym then today!! the left one is not fine lah Chow This post has been edited by bata: Aug 12 2009, 05:36 PM |
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 12 2009, 05:36 PM) increased in fat percentage also increment in estrogen level right? some people their receptor there damn sensitive, increase a bit also can get gyno. Yeah, I remember I had a firm lump with the size of a guli underneath my nipples when I was 13, which turn disappeared as I turned 14.actually gyno is normal la, almost all boys got it in puberty stages, some go away some are not. the left one is not fine lah Chow |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 11 2009, 11:37 PM) . YES, i remember when i just intro into "building muscle", i tot menshealth is the best magazine ever, now i found out it is just a book with full of bull crap. . . 6. Read more about nutrition and training, but not from Mens Health, pls. . . . . Have a nice day. |
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Aug 12 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 12 2009, 09:42 PM) YES, i remember when i just intro into "building muscle", i tot menshealth is the best magazine ever, now i found out it is just a book with full of bull crap. TRUEtheir front page always ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS and not to forget 'HOW TO BURN FAT AND GET 6 packs'  always the same thing every month thats why i change to musclemag. i seriously dont like MD and Flex because too much advertisement , quite irritating . |
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Aug 12 2009, 05:03 PM) comes with the roidgut not roidgut bromacam all the boring superstars ifbb's and olies like roni coldmen, durian yates, bench warrant, gay kettler all the gut is actually a result of usage of Growth Hormone we call it gh gut |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 12 2009, 11:50 PM) TRUE More like "6 ways to have better SEX!', and the next month "Better SEX in SIX days!", the next month "Have a 6-pack and better SEX!"their front page always ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS and not to forget 'HOW TO BURN FAT AND GET 6 packs' always the same thing every month thats why i change to musclemag. i seriously dont like MD and Flex because too much advertisement , quite irritating . Flex is more to professional BB with lots of info about Pro BBing events, which I don't really understand. I like the research and nutrition segment of MM and M&F, but MM's content is less compared to M&F. Where do you guys get the mags? I don't trust in subscribing coz my mom's Feng Shui mags and my dad's scuba diving mags always get missing in the mail. Popular doesn't always have MM and M&F and I missed a lot of issues earlier this month and I complained to the Popular person and still after 3 months still no mags. Then finally last month I found 1 copy of MM in the magazine section, but no M&F. Then this month there's only 1 copy of M&F but no MM. The only mag they have in stacks on the shelves is that homo mag Exercise/Men's workout, with nothing but ripped people in tights posing for different exercises and nothing else, oh and Men's Health. |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 13 2009, 12:21 AM) More like "6 ways to have better SEX!', and the next month "Better SEX in SIX days!", the next month "Have a 6-pack and better SEX!" i think so far MD - muscular development is also one of the best tapi banyak sangat ifbb's and olies that im bored at the picsFlex is more to professional BB with lots of info about Pro BBing events, which I don't really understand. I like the research and nutrition segment of MM and M&F, but MM's content is less compared to M&F. Where do you guys get the mags? I don't trust in subscribing coz my mom's Feng Shui mags and my dad's scuba diving mags always get missing in the mail. Popular doesn't always have MM and M&F and I missed a lot of issues earlier this month and I complained to the Popular person and still after 3 months still no mags. Then finally last month I found 1 copy of MM in the magazine section, but no M&F. Then this month there's only 1 copy of M&F but no MM. The only mag they have in stacks on the shelves is that homo mag Exercise/Men's workout, with nothing but ripped people in tights posing for different exercises and nothing else, oh and Men's Health. and the training all the same haha menshealth america or australia good la for sports enthusiasts cuz its not so much on bb'ing |
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Aug 13 2009, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 13 2009, 12:21 AM) More like "6 ways to have better SEX!', and the next month "Better SEX in SIX days!", the next month "Have a 6-pack and better SEX!" try to go MPH bro.Flex is more to professional BB with lots of info about Pro BBing events, which I don't really understand. I like the research and nutrition segment of MM and M&F, but MM's content is less compared to M&F. Where do you guys get the mags? I don't trust in subscribing coz my mom's Feng Shui mags and my dad's scuba diving mags always get missing in the mail. Popular doesn't always have MM and M&F and I missed a lot of issues earlier this month and I complained to the Popular person and still after 3 months still no mags. Then finally last month I found 1 copy of MM in the magazine section, but no M&F. Then this month there's only 1 copy of M&F but no MM. The only mag they have in stacks on the shelves is that homo mag Exercise/Men's workout, with nothing but ripped people in tights posing for different exercises and nothing else, oh and Men's Health. i just bought at MPH mid valley September issue of MM. september issue is quite expensive, rm 32, usually rm 28 only because they celebrates their 35 years and we have to pay more. aiyohhh.  |
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Aug 13 2009, 12:57 AM
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Aug 13 2009, 01:00 AM
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Nice forearms!
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Aug 13 2009, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:55 AM) try to go MPH bro. MPH in Melaka also sometimes don't have...i just bought at MPH mid valley September issue of MM. september issue is quite expensive, rm 32, usually rm 28 only because they celebrates their 35 years and we have to pay more. aiyohhh. |
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Aug 13 2009, 03:31 AM
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Aug 13 2009, 05:01 AM
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Wait, people actually buy bodybuilding magazines? Good Lord.
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Aug 13 2009, 08:59 AM
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iceypain..... looks like u ar a runner/ athlete instead of a bb
not bad wheels.... can i picture spam? im on the rebound with the other guy tapping the ball out of my hands..... no 4 is a UPM player....this is our intercollege basketball tourney ... ummm.. ...... this pics shows my........enourmously undeveloped arms....ahahhah ..(my excuse for posting up..) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Aug 13 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 13 2009, 01:01 AM) MPH in Melaka also sometimes don't have... not all MPH got...here sometimes found @ MPH (rarely) and mostly @ Popular...i only managed to buy 4 issues...after that, always dun have... ... but how come I bought it @ RM19 ?? |
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Aug 13 2009, 10:52 AM
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why dont u ppl try out the magazine store in cineleisure(ground floor)? i dont really buy it but there is quite a number of variety for bb magz.
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 13 2009, 10:38 AM) not all MPH got...here sometimes found @ MPH (rarely) and mostly @ Popular...i only managed to buy 4 issues...after that, always dun have... you bought australia version of muscle mag ... but how come I bought it @ RM19 ??http://www.musclemag.com.au/musclemag/ if u buy international ,its rm26++ |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:57 PM) you bought australia version of muscle mag The international one is better.http://www.musclemag.com.au/musclemag/ if u buy international ,its rm26++ |
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QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 13 2009, 10:52 AM) why dont u ppl try out the magazine store in cineleisure(ground floor)? i dont really buy it but there is quite a number of variety for bb magz. U guys actually buy BB mags with super huge dudes decorating the front cover? If that's what you guys want then cineleisure, as mentioned by jamis, is the place to go. |
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Aug 13 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 13 2009, 07:26 PM) U guys actually buy BB mags with super huge dudes decorating the front cover? If that's what you guys want then cineleisure, as mentioned by jamis, is the place to go. Might as well get playboy mags and jerk off. Its much more worth it. Biceps will always be biceps, manipulating an image in a playboy mag could work wonders. |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 13 2009, 08:16 PM) Might as well get playboy mags and jerk off. Its much more worth it. Biceps will always be biceps, manipulating an image in a playboy mag could work wonders. Where to get playboy mag in malaysia?  By the way, sometime the mag may tell u something that might not be true, like... u should take 1.5g of protein to ur bodyweight in pound, u should take at least 3500cals to gain build muscle mass and etc, wat i do owas is standing there reading free mag (like a cheapskate old junk) then aft reading jus put it back and somehow i found out the advertisement inside is occupying at least 50% of the mag  This post has been edited by jamis: Aug 13 2009, 08:25 PM |
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Aug 13 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 13 2009, 09:22 PM) Where to get playboy mag in malaysia? Magazines are the last place to look for reliable/credible informations. They are backed up by the manufacturers of a particular product itself. If over-vascularized guys turn you on, then you should get it. By the way, sometime the mag may tell u something that might not be true, like... u should take 1.5g of protein to ur bodyweight in pound, u should take at least 3500cals to gain build muscle mass and etc, wat i do owas is standing there reading free mag (like a cheapskate old junk) then aft reading jus put it back and somehow i found out the advertisement inside is occupying at least 50% of the mag I used to have a playboy mag supplier in MY. In AU, you could get them at the bookstore |
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Aug 13 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 13 2009, 08:28 PM) Magazines are the last place to look for reliable/credible informations. They are backed up by the manufacturers of a particular product itself. If over-vascularized guys turn you on, then you should get it. AU can even get hustler...with a very good price.I used to have a playboy mag supplier in MY. In AU, you could get them at the bookstore |
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Aug 14 2009, 01:58 AM
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Bro what other exercise than shrugs will develop traps ? Cause i didn't do shrugs at all before this but i got this traps but imbalance traps...left too small and right too big...currently doing shrugs once a week by taking heavier db on my left while i am waiting for my frens which means i haven't been focusing on shrugs yet cause after seeing my traps like that demotivated to do shrugs already...
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Aug 14 2009, 03:29 AM
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hahahha... bro, thats not ur traps. =.=
thats ur bone... kaka... i cant recall the name of that bone... lat bone? |
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Aug 14 2009, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(20052006 @ Aug 14 2009, 01:58 AM) Bro what other exercise than shrugs will develop traps ? Cause i didn't do shrugs at all before this but i got this traps but imbalance traps...left too small and right too big...currently doing shrugs once a week by taking heavier db on my left while i am waiting for my frens which means i haven't been focusing on shrugs yet cause after seeing my traps like that demotivated to do shrugs already... Ya la bro, can see u pushing ur bone up, but yes can see its big one side but try to do Upright Barbell Row i think its may helps to get real traps  |
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Aug 14 2009, 09:11 AM
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Yeap, upright barbell rows/ upright dumbbell rows. Do traps more than once a week la. I do them on lats and delts day.
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Aug 14 2009, 09:26 AM
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hehe... another good workout is deadlift also i assume.
thats what darkie said previously bout his monstrous traps. shrugs, i think its more comfortable using dumbells compared to barbell. its up to ur own personal preference. =.= |
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Aug 14 2009, 09:59 AM
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dam ppl, aft my cutting phase, my deadlift went banana. from 324lbs i dropped to 314 and i found 314 is pretty heavy and cant really do it with proper form so i drop to 284lbs. Man.... guess i got to deload next week.
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Aug 14 2009, 10:22 AM
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20052006, try pushing ur left side bone up cz i think u didnt push the other side up... i had this prob b4, jz get the correct way to push up the other side den u will see it balanced...
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Aug 14 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(20052006 @ Aug 14 2009, 01:58 AM) Bro what other exercise than shrugs will develop traps ? Cause i didn't do shrugs at all before this but i got this traps but imbalance traps...left too small and right too big...currently doing shrugs once a week by taking heavier db on my left while i am waiting for my frens which means i haven't been focusing on shrugs yet cause after seeing my traps like that demotivated to do shrugs already... dude u look like someone tat i know, did u trained at wangsa maju alfa gym before? |
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Try shrugging using the smith at first and once you have the movement then go free-weight.
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QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 14 2009, 10:59 AM) dam ppl, aft my cutting phase, my deadlift went banana. from 324lbs i dropped to 314 and i found 314 is pretty heavy and cant really do it with proper form so i drop to 284lbs. Man.... guess i got to deload next week. 324lbs is a good figure to begin with. How much did you weigh before cutting? I think you should just give it a few more sessions, and you'll see 324lbs back kicking again or maybe even more. How do you go about deloads? What I would do if I were you is to put on some variations of dealifts. Perhaps do a platform pull next session for more hip drives. Oh by the way before I continue crapping, is 324 your 1RM or your 5RM? |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 14 2009, 03:29 AM) hahahha... bro, thats not ur traps. =.= omgg don't tell me i have imbalance bone i gonna faint -.-" how to fix this people...thats ur bone... kaka... i cant recall the name of that bone... lat bone? i tried pushing up other side everytime i flex but nothing come up at all...die man it looks ugly thx anyway for those comment will put db shrug or upright row into routine @bagata..i tried hard to push the other side up but it just won't happened =( @jamis..Aikz i used to train at home but just joined celebrity fitness last month..very seldom will go wangsa maju btw the picture i put so much mustache and thick makeup u still can recognize me as some1 else -.-" @pedro..actually whats the difference sometime i see ppl shrugging from behind or front ? i don't really know the form for barbell shrugging only tried few times db shrugs... btw guys..if that is my bone and is it normal when i flex it will popped up like that ? can i keep it low ? when my fren see it they only can see that area and will say ugly ler...u guys will popped up something lidat also ? This post has been edited by 20052006: Aug 14 2009, 02:57 PM |
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Aug 14 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE @jamis..Aikz i used to train at home but just joined celebrity fitness last month..very seldom will go wangsa maju btw the picture i put so much mustache and thick makeup u still can recognize me as some1 else -.-" I got a fren have the same size like u and i think he has the same issue like urs with the bone tat makes the traps imbalance. |
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Aug 14 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(20052006 @ Aug 14 2009, 02:46 PM) @pedro..actually whats the difference sometime i see ppl shrugging from behind or front ? i don't really know the form for barbell shrugging only tried few times db shrugs... it will hit different parts of traps...you might want to try seated barbell shrugs  low cable rows to neck  |
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QUOTE(20052006 @ Aug 14 2009, 02:46 PM) omgg don't tell me i have imbalance bone i gonna faint -.-" how to fix this people... Looks quite strange indeed. Not necessarily imbalance, maybe you're just used to 'pushing' up your shoulder blade on that side? I myself had similar issues until I checked in the mirror, have to learn to identify and control the muscles to get a symmetrical look. i tried pushing up other side everytime i flex but nothing come up at all...die man it looks ugly @pedro..actually whats the difference sometime i see ppl shrugging from behind or front ? i don't really know the form for barbell shrugging only tried few times db shrugs... btw guys..if that is my bone and is it normal when i flex it will popped up like that ? can i keep it low ? when my fren see it they only can see that area and will say ugly ler...u guys will popped up something lidat also ? |
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Aug 14 2009, 05:13 PM
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My guess is you're just not flexing properly. Practice flexing a bit more and you should be able to make it look right.
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Aug 14 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 14 2009, 05:13 PM) My guess is you're just not flexing properly. Practice flexing a bit more and you should be able to make it look right. second that... |
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i just did 106kg one hand deadlift coz of some crap talk by my frens and make me pissed so i tried single hand.
it was awesome feeling to lift 106kg up with ease. muahaha... i could have gone for more... i could probably lift 130kg single hand, but i didnt... my fren was talking crap here and there, and pissed me off for me bagata was there at the moment as well. =.= haha... it was fun... maybe next time will try 130kg for fun. =.= |
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Aug 14 2009, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 14 2009, 06:44 PM) i just did 106kg one hand deadlift coz of some crap talk by my frens and make me pissed so i tried single hand. let me noe in advance, i go car take phone it was awesome feeling to lift 106kg up with ease. muahaha... i could have gone for more... i could probably lift 130kg single hand, but i didnt... my fren was talking crap here and there, and pissed me off for me bagata was there at the moment as well. =.= haha... it was fun... maybe next time will try 130kg for fun. =.= |
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Aug 14 2009, 06:58 PM
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just now didnt thought of it coz i dulan de coz that sohai choon yong
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Aug 14 2009, 09:54 PM
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130kg one hand..uish....
p/s : bro,comfirm u human ka??see ur hand..if got zipper..that mean u cheating..ur a cyborg..hahahhahah |
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Aug 14 2009, 10:18 PM
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For fun injure ur arm then gg.
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Aug 14 2009, 10:31 PM
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he lift it like an empty bar
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 14 2009, 06:44 PM) i just did 106kg one hand deadlift coz of some crap talk by my frens and make me pissed so i tried single hand. One hand as in the bar in front of you, or the bar on the side (as in suitcase deadlift)?it was awesome feeling to lift 106kg up with ease. muahaha... i could have gone for more... i could probably lift 130kg single hand, but i didnt... my fren was talking crap here and there, and pissed me off for me bagata was there at the moment as well. =.= haha... it was fun... maybe next time will try 130kg for fun. =.= If bar on the side, I kasi 10x the respect (on top of whatever amazement I've got about you)! |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 15 2009, 10:20 AM) One hand as in the bar in front of you, or the bar on the side (as in suitcase deadlift)? So, that's 10 x infinity from me. If bar on the side, I kasi 10x the respect (on top of whatever amazement I've got about you)! This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 15 2009, 11:01 AM |
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Aug 15 2009, 11:32 AM
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haha... errr i dunno consider suitcase style or front.
coz its in between. problem is balancing it when i let it down. i ask 2 frens standing at the side just incase one side lopsided and going to fumble. but didnt need their help also coz i manage to balance it. i wish there is smaller bars coz the olympic bars too long and hard to balance. =.= i think if there is a smaller bar, could have done much more. is there any bar half the length of the olympic size bar? |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 15 2009, 11:32 AM) haha... errr i dunno consider suitcase style or front. ez / curly bar got la that length...oly where got...but then, single-handed DL is dangerous bro...should not do it regularly...coz its in between. problem is balancing it when i let it down. i ask 2 frens standing at the side just incase one side lopsided and going to fumble. but didnt need their help also coz i manage to balance it. i wish there is smaller bars coz the olympic bars too long and hard to balance. =.= i think if there is a smaller bar, could have done much more. is there any bar half the length of the olympic size bar? |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 15 2009, 12:03 PM) ez / curly bar got la that length...oly where got...but then, single-handed DL is dangerous bro...should not do it regularly... Got. Exactly similar to oly bar with the 50mm collars, except that it's way shorter.Seen it in FF leisure mall when I used to exercise there. Just clamp the plates lah. |
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Aug 15 2009, 12:29 PM
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haha diablokun, i wont do it regularly. haha... it was just a test for myself and also something different. =.=
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 15 2009, 12:29 PM) haha diablokun, i wont do it regularly. haha... it was just a test for myself and also something different. =.= retarded=.= how if one day your friend challege you again like :" Jon, i dont believe that you can lift 10kg dumbbell with your kukujiao?"  |
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As iamyuanwu said, in FF there is a bar that is similar to the olympic bar, but it is half in length, it weighs 10kg by itself.
If you're gonna do one handed lifts you might want to start with that, it allows you use higher weights because there is less demand on your core to stabilise it. But holy s*** 100kg+ single handed deadlift. Not hating or anything, but did you keep your back in a proper position? Just saying, always make sure your back is in proper position and don't round your back, otherwise it could cause trouble. Again, congratulations! |
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yeah_guys... muahaha... =.= if its ridiculous and stupid then i wont la. =.=
kakaka... one hand deadlift, i think its possible ma. not hard also. even 106kg felt so easy. no sweat desvaro... too bad my gym dont have those smaller bar. =.= my back position? i think it aint too bad i guess. got to ask bagata what he saw. =.= haha... coz i didnt see my back. i just know i did how i normally deadlift. =.= |
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Aug 15 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 15 2009, 01:47 PM) yeah_guys... muahaha... =.= if its ridiculous and stupid then i wont la. =.= ahaha... i not sure cz never take notice... i jz see him take up n put down like an empty bar kakaka... one hand deadlift, i think its possible ma. not hard also. even 106kg felt so easy. no sweat desvaro... too bad my gym dont have those smaller bar. =.= my back position? i think it aint too bad i guess. got to ask bagata what he saw. =.= haha... coz i didnt see my back. i just know i did how i normally deadlift. =.= feel like s*** yesterday, all thanks to my midterm exams... 2weeks+ din workout... |
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Aug 15 2009, 02:17 PM
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haha... wanted add the weights, tapi malas layan them de. =.=
wat for injured myself coz of my sohai fren. =.= then all of them try to deadlift that weight, all fail teruk. =.= kakaka... cant even move the bar 1cm. =.= |
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Aug 15 2009, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 15 2009, 02:17 PM) haha... wanted add the weights, tapi malas layan them de. =.= Jon, seems like u progress very fast. Still doing those deadlift and squats?wat for injured myself coz of my sohai fren. =.= then all of them try to deadlift that weight, all fail teruk. =.= kakaka... cant even move the bar 1cm. =.= I will pay u a visit when i go back melaka, need u 'si fu' to teach me. |
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Aug 15 2009, 05:15 PM
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hey guys , newbie here
im currently doing 25 kg dumbbell press per arm. however i have never done a barbell bench press before. i was wondering, if 25 kg per arm, does that translate to 50kg barbell bench press or does it work differently. Sorry if this question has been asked before |
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Aug 15 2009, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Short_Circuit @ Aug 15 2009, 05:15 PM) hey guys , newbie here You will most likely be able to do MORE than 50kg.im currently doing 25 kg dumbbell press per arm. however i have never done a barbell bench press before. i was wondering, if 25 kg per arm, does that translate to 50kg barbell bench press or does it work differently. Sorry if this question has been asked before Dumbbell Bench Press requires equal force exerted from both hands, but if one hand is stronger than another (and usually it is), you will be able to lift more when using Barbells. Also, dumbbells place more stress on the core in order to balance the weight, thus reducing the weight you can use. Most likely, you will be able to use more with a barbell. |
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Aug 15 2009, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(rcv86 @ Aug 15 2009, 04:05 PM) Jon, seems like u progress very fast. Still doing those deadlift and squats? ah shan! =.= haha... will be waiting for u. keke u know my number... can come gym anytime la.I will pay u a visit when i go back melaka, need u 'si fu' to teach me. progress actually stopped. elbow injured, cant do any pushing movements. kaka... been slacking. back also dont wanna do too much de, coz slighty injured. will be getting a belt pretty soon. QUOTE(Short_Circuit @ Aug 15 2009, 05:15 PM) hey guys , newbie here my guess is, probably 80kg or more...im currently doing 25 kg dumbbell press per arm. however i have never done a barbell bench press before. i was wondering, if 25 kg per arm, does that translate to 50kg barbell bench press or does it work differently. Sorry if this question has been asked before coz my max for barbell is 90kg, but i am just doing 20kg dumbell per arm. =.= |
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Aug 15 2009, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(Short_Circuit @ Aug 15 2009, 05:15 PM) hey guys , newbie here wow...25kg per arm is great...keep it up...as for the benches, there's no math for workout like that...because you will involve different parts of bodypart for different workout...maybe you can do more or maybe less...just play safe, start with 40kg 1st...im currently doing 25 kg dumbbell press per arm. however i have never done a barbell bench press before. i was wondering, if 25 kg per arm, does that translate to 50kg barbell bench press or does it work differently. Sorry if this question has been asked before good luck bro... |
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Aug 15 2009, 10:02 PM
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thnx for the replies,
reason why i asked was because, i got a feeling im reaching a plateau soon so when the time comes, i hope a switch in workout might help break it. been working out since early jan this year, newbie gains coming to an end? hopefully not , still 4 kg left for my bulking stage and seems forever to get there rite now |
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Aug 15 2009, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Short_Circuit @ Aug 15 2009, 10:02 PM) thnx for the replies, I think the best thing for you would be to get on the Rippetoes program, it is perfect for beginners who want to maximise their newbie gains. Hell I used it after 1.5 years of lifting, and I got the best gains of my life, putting on 10kg in 3 months.reason why i asked was because, i got a feeling im reaching a plateau soon so when the time comes, i hope a switch in workout might help break it. been working out since early jan this year, newbie gains coming to an end? hopefully not , still 4 kg left for my bulking stage and seems forever to get there rite now How's your diet like |
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Aug 15 2009, 10:49 PM
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yea, ive started about 50kg (165cm) ecto .2nd week jan ( i remember i could barely lift a 7.5kg dumbbell) . flashforward till today, about 65kg+/-1kg. aiming for 69. then thinking of cutting some body fat and switching to strength training instead.
Typical Diet Morning (watever time i get up ) 1 apple, yogurt, 2/3 eggs, protein shake(with milk) mid morning (during classes) uncle toby yogurt bars or chewy bars lunch whatever me n my mates choose to eat ( for sure extra meat ) Workout Postworkout - 1 protein shake whatever is in my uni cafeteria which i can afford ( or head home and open a can of tuna or 2 and some fruits) Dinner typically, 300g chicken breast/beef, 1 cup rice, 2 eggs Supper, just yogurt(cant get enuff of it) and protein shake(with milk) sometimes 1 murtabak here and there but not too often to be considered typical diet its been working considerably well , except for during examination and assignment periods where typical weight loss occurs due to lack of food or should i say lack of time to eat. but im alrite with it, not too hardcore. |
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Aug 16 2009, 12:04 AM
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My not so great progress...
Been staying on the same weight for few weeks now... With Ramadan coming, things are not looking good. |
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Aug 16 2009, 12:52 AM
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Pretty good progress, bro. I see you've lost quite a bit of bodyfat and chest and arms are definitely growing. Good job!
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Aug 16 2009, 09:26 AM
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I tot emino always in the bulk mode. Ramadhan is coming, and this week is all cheat day. haha
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Aug 16 2009, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 16 2009, 09:26 AM) I tot emino always in the bulk mode. Ramadhan is coming, and this week is all cheat day. haha Only when the budget allows me Mr. Kurt. |
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Aug 16 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Short_Circuit @ Aug 15 2009, 10:49 PM) yea, ive started about 50kg (165cm) ecto .2nd week jan ( i remember i could barely lift a 7.5kg dumbbell) . flashforward till today, about 65kg+/-1kg. aiming for 69. then thinking of cutting some body fat and switching to strength training instead. Diet seems fine, though you should add in protein to your mid morning snack. I'm a university student as well, I usually pack some chicken steak. It's actually pre-cooked, and you can get it from carrefour, so in the morning just heat it up in the microwave and eat later. It still tastes decent even when I eat it around 5pm.Typical Diet Morning (watever time i get up ) 1 apple, yogurt, 2/3 eggs, protein shake(with milk) mid morning (during classes) uncle toby yogurt bars or chewy bars lunch whatever me n my mates choose to eat ( for sure extra meat ) Workout Postworkout - 1 protein shake whatever is in my uni cafeteria which i can afford ( or head home and open a can of tuna or 2 and some fruits) Dinner typically, 300g chicken breast/beef, 1 cup rice, 2 eggs Supper, just yogurt(cant get enuff of it) and protein shake(with milk) sometimes 1 murtabak here and there but not too often to be considered typical diet its been working considerably well , except for during examination and assignment periods where typical weight loss occurs due to lack of food or should i say lack of time to eat. but im alrite with it, not too hardcore. Just curious, where do you workout at? |
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Aug 16 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 16 2009, 12:04 AM) My not so great progress... chill out la bro...you're not into competing right...ramadhan is off-season then... Been staying on the same weight for few weeks now... With Ramadan coming, things are not looking good. This post has been edited by diablokun: Aug 16 2009, 11:23 PM |
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Aug 16 2009, 11:40 PM
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Aug 17 2009, 01:45 AM
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nice back bro, are bulking up ?
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Aug 17 2009, 07:59 AM
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yup, bulking never stops for me.
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Aug 17 2009, 03:33 PM
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no front pictures ?? nice back btw...low bf will give you better definitions...
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 15 2009, 12:03 PM) ez / curly bar got la that length...oly where got...but then, single-handed DL is dangerous bro...should not do it regularly... I must ask, why is it dangerous? The mechanics of a single-arm deadlift is slightly different, true, but as long as the basics are kept tight, I see minimal problems with doing 1 arm deadlifts. The imbalanced nature of a single arm deadlift, also makes it an amazingly good stability exercise and will tax the cross sectional build of your core which is great. |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 17 2009, 04:03 PM) I must ask, why is it dangerous? maybe it is not to you...normal deadlifts have a negative connotation because if not done properly it can lead to injury. However, if any exercise is done without the proper attention to technique, injury is also inevitable...let alone single arm...The mechanics of a single-arm deadlift is slightly different, true, but as long as the basics are kept tight, I see minimal problems with doing 1 arm deadlifts. The imbalanced nature of a single arm deadlift, also makes it an amazingly good stability exercise and will tax the cross sectional build of your core which is great. am just giving advice...JonYeap wasn't training for PL... |
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Aug 17 2009, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 17 2009, 05:03 PM) I must ask, why is it dangerous? Damn, you sound like a walking textbook The mechanics of a single-arm deadlift is slightly different, true, but as long as the basics are kept tight, I see minimal problems with doing 1 arm deadlifts. The imbalanced nature of a single arm deadlift, also makes it an amazingly good stability exercise and will tax the cross sectional build of your core which is great. JonYeap did a single arm deadlift to boast to his friends that I believe were doubting his ability to do so. I personally have done a single arm/leg romanian deadlift with a dumb bell. It is an unusual movement to the body which requires a significant amount of stability. JonYeap did a single arm deadlift with a barbell right? Well use a dumbbell next time. To say that a deadlift is a dangerous form of exercise, well maybe it is if you don't know how to do it right, then there is an exception. A deadlift might be complex to certain trainees, therefore a dumbbell deadlift might just raise an eyebrow, thats all. Cross Sectional build of your core, that is so complex but it sounds so cool  . Nevertheless, training your core will reduce your chances of sports specific injuries. Reduce, not completely eliminate.This post has been edited by shanecross: Aug 17 2009, 04:34 PM |
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Aug 17 2009, 05:48 PM
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aiya... no need say me boasting la. wakkakaka...
i just pissed off at him. since he can do 85kg and so proud of it i show him i can lift it up with a single hand. but then it was like damn easy. so i added 20kg more. and it too felt so easy... but i dont gain anything more that wat i already gained so i stopped adding. =.= i wont do it often coz its hmmm... i dunno... maybe just not the right exercise. kaka... |
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Aug 17 2009, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 17 2009, 05:48 PM) aiya... no need say me boasting la. wakkakaka... That Arabian guy is it you told us the other day?i just pissed off at him. since he can do 85kg and so proud of it i show him i can lift it up with a single hand. but then it was like damn easy. so i added 20kg more. and it too felt so easy... but i dont gain anything more that wat i already gained so i stopped adding. =.= i wont do it often coz its hmmm... i dunno... maybe just not the right exercise. kaka... |
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Aug 17 2009, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 17 2009, 08:13 PM) That Arabian guy is it you told us the other day? Arabian guy........ |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 17 2009, 07:13 PM) That Arabian guy is it you told us the other day? no no... haha... its a chinese classmate. he just started gym and he only goes gym to be an ashole... enter 2 hours, spend 1 hour looking at the mirror and adjusting his hair. ever had frens that talks craps that irritates u? same goes to this fella... |
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Aug 17 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 17 2009, 07:48 PM) no no... haha... its a chinese classmate. gym is grooming session for him he just started gym and he only goes gym to be an ashole... enter 2 hours, spend 1 hour looking at the mirror and adjusting his hair. ever had frens that talks craps that irritates u? same goes to this fella... |
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Aug 18 2009, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 17 2009, 07:48 PM) no no... haha... its a chinese classmate. have u ever wondered if he might be ghey?he just started gym and he only goes gym to be an ashole... enter 2 hours, spend 1 hour looking at the mirror and adjusting his hair. ever had frens that talks craps that irritates u? same goes to this fella... This post has been edited by metalfreak: Aug 18 2009, 10:13 AM |
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Aug 18 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 18 2009, 10:12 AM) have u ever wondered if he might be ghey? haha... =.=one day i ask bagata snap a pic of him grooming himself in front of the mirror. hahahahahaha |
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Aug 18 2009, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 18 2009, 02:15 PM) haha... =.= seriously. damn geli to see someone in the gym...2 hours and spends more time looking at himself. one day i ask bagata snap a pic of him grooming himself in front of the mirror. hahahahahaha |
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Aug 18 2009, 02:58 PM
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Sounds like a Johnny Bravo cartoon.
Favourite quotes of JB, "Man, I'm pretty!" This post has been edited by kianweic: Aug 18 2009, 02:59 PM |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 17 2009, 04:22 PM) maybe it is not to you...normal deadlifts have a negative connotation because if not done properly it can lead to injury. However, if any exercise is done without the proper attention to technique, injury is also inevitable...let alone single arm... People that train for powerlifting, barely if ever use single-arm deadlifts. They may use single limb leg work to decrease the load on their spine while increasing work load on the legs. am just giving advice...JonYeap wasn't training for PL... Single arm work, is mostly used for athletes that require a lot of unilateral movement such as speed skaters, discus throwers, javelin throwers, sprinters. They require the single arm coordination to be able to throw their power from the base (legs) to the final extension (arm) Deadlifts to any healthy individual should usually not be dangerous, unless a form breakdown on essential portions of the body happen (eg:lumbar) On that note, I'm thinking about bringing a TRXsuspension system since there's a lot of people out there that want to workout but don't have a gym or can't find time to go. What do you guys think about it? Think it'll sell? |
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Aug 18 2009, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 18 2009, 06:20 PM) People that train for powerlifting, barely if ever use single-arm deadlifts. They may use single limb leg work to decrease the load on their spine while increasing work load on the legs. TRX would be a good and worthwhile equipment. But the price is a little steep but if you look at it on a long term basis...it wouldn't hurt much. RM700-RM800. Any takers? Might get it cheaper if PB could get more of you blokes on the list.Single arm work, is mostly used for athletes that require a lot of unilateral movement such as speed skaters, discus throwers, javelin throwers, sprinters. They require the single arm coordination to be able to throw their power from the base (legs) to the final extension (arm) Deadlifts to any healthy individual should usually not be dangerous, unless a form breakdown on essential portions of the body happen (eg:lumbar) On that note, I'm thinking about bringing a TRXsuspension system since there's a lot of people out there that want to workout but don't have a gym or can't find time to go. What do you guys think about it? Think it'll sell? This post has been edited by shanecross: Aug 18 2009, 06:12 PM |
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Aug 18 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 18 2009, 02:15 PM) haha... =.= who the hell is that sohai.. hahaone day i ask bagata snap a pic of him grooming himself in front of the mirror. hahahahahaha jon, im gary |
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Aug 18 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Aug 18 2009, 06:19 PM) who the hell is that sohai.. haha im zaxx. jon, im gary btw is there anyone here training like two times a day? cuz i got a friend who did that. |
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Aug 18 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Aug 18 2009, 07:34 PM) im zaxx. pizzaboy does, I think. btw is there anyone here training like two times a day? cuz i got a friend who did that. |
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Aug 18 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 18 2009, 08:28 PM) pizzaboy does, I think. really. izzit good or not? |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 18 2009, 05:20 PM) People that train for powerlifting, barely if ever use single-arm deadlifts. They may use single limb leg work to decrease the load on their spine while increasing work load on the legs. I think you'll sell more power racks. Those available at Fitness Concept are overfeatured and therefore too expensive.Single arm work, is mostly used for athletes that require a lot of unilateral movement such as speed skaters, discus throwers, javelin throwers, sprinters. They require the single arm coordination to be able to throw their power from the base (legs) to the final extension (arm) Deadlifts to any healthy individual should usually not be dangerous, unless a form breakdown on essential portions of the body happen (eg:lumbar) On that note, I'm thinking about bringing a TRXsuspension system since there's a lot of people out there that want to workout but don't have a gym or can't find time to go. What do you guys think about it? Think it'll sell? |
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Aug 18 2009, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Aug 18 2009, 06:19 PM) who the hell is that sohai.. haha hahaha that sohai la. =.=jon, im gary who else... kaka... always come in look at the mirror... u sendiri tau la. kaka... |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 18 2009, 05:20 PM) People that train for powerlifting, barely if ever use single-arm deadlifts. They may use single limb leg work to decrease the load on their spine while increasing work load on the legs. WOAH! 150USD!!Single arm work, is mostly used for athletes that require a lot of unilateral movement such as speed skaters, discus throwers, javelin throwers, sprinters. They require the single arm coordination to be able to throw their power from the base (legs) to the final extension (arm) Deadlifts to any healthy individual should usually not be dangerous, unless a form breakdown on essential portions of the body happen (eg:lumbar) On that note, I'm thinking about bringing a TRXsuspension system since there's a lot of people out there that want to workout but don't have a gym or can't find time to go. What do you guys think about it? Think it'll sell? How about the USA? LOL! http://www.bwculture.net/Universal_Strengt...ratus_p/usa.htm I assume hanging the legs off it might be a little more uncomfortable compared to the TRX. And I wonder if you could order something similar in China. I mean, it's not exactly something that really requires a lot of technology to manufacture. As a poor Msian, I feel RM500+ for strap is a little expensive. Or perhaps gymnastic rings too? |
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Aug 18 2009, 08:53 PM) really. izzit good or not? Yeah I train twice a day. It's good in the sense it allows me to peak my testosterone level twice in a day, instead of having one session where I have to rush. Also it allows me to stay fresher provided I have enough sleep. I've not heard of this method being used to build muscle though. I'd imagine it be counter-productive to muscle growth, as muscles require between 24-48 hours of rest to grow and have sufficient protein and calories. Training twice a day, would require you to probably move beyond 5000 calories a day for growth. Even that I'm not sure if you can recover in time because of the longer period of time required between for synthesis. I do this because my only concern is getting stronger and faster. Moving fresh and fast, allows my muscles to be very explosive and ensures I have a good bulk of fast twitch muscle fibers. Also I give sports massages and I know how to work with my trigger points and tightness as well as increase blood flow, so in that sense, I'm able to incorporate this. One day I think I wanna get my test levels checked. Wonder how many mmols/g I have QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 18 2009, 10:34 PM) I think you'll sell more power racks. Those available at Fitness Concept are overfeatured and therefore too expensive. I'll try seeing if my friend can get it cheaper from the USA. Just met him. He goes between US and Singapore monthly. If he can get it for cheaper, I'll spread the savings to the fine fellows here. Actually, I was just thinking about TRX. Can get other stuff such as gymnastic rings and bands too.QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 18 2009, 11:53 PM) WOAH! 150USD!! Honestly speaking, I used to think the TRX was crap. I mean, rings are better in almost every way. There was however, one small difference. The TRX was useful for those that NEEDED the convenience and portability. One TRX+bands+chains=can workout anywhere. How about the USA? LOL! http://www.bwculture.net/Universal_Strengt...ratus_p/usa.htm I assume hanging the legs off it might be a little more uncomfortable compared to the TRX. And I wonder if you could order something similar in China. I mean, it's not exactly something that really requires a lot of technology to manufacture. As a poor Msian, I feel RM500+ for strap is a little expensive. Or perhaps gymnastic rings too? Oh and I still kicked TRX'S ass. Duno lah....see maybe get something else lah from US like training DVD'S or training texts. I'm thinking about getting some books by Tudor Bompa and Paul Chek (Yeah I hate him, but I can still learn frm him)This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Aug 19 2009, 09:59 PM |
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Pics b4 fasting month.
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bro,during april 08 u bulking ke?
u look better at april 08 tu apa plan fasting? cutting or bulking during fasting?=D |
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 20 2009, 01:01 AM) bro,during april 08 u bulking ke? i never cut , always bulk....lol...fasting sure lose mass....no idea how lau look better at april 08 tu apa plan fasting? cutting or bulking during fasting?=D Chow |
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Aug 20 2009, 02:47 AM
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Bata, very nice man!
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Aug 20 2009, 08:20 AM
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Bata gona lose more BF
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dude, nice la ur body..serious..damn, what sort of training ucurrently using?might try em..share a bit la on diet and supplements..would love to try em..
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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Aug 20 2009, 02:20 PM) dude, nice la ur body..serious..damn, what sort of training ucurrently using?might try em..share a bit la on diet and supplements..would love to try em.. 5-6 days split. Diet and supplements u better not follow me as most people will end up fat....lol. im always on dirty bulk. If u want clean lean bulk, i suggest follow Noel's diet, he's cleaner version of me...lolChow. |
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Aug 20 2009, 10:43 PM
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Some new pictures. Side tricep for both arms.
[attachmentid=1149475][attachmentid=1149477] Meh, left arm's still very noticeably smaller. This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 21 2009, 01:50 AM |
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Aug 21 2009, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 20 2009, 10:43 PM) Some new pictures. Side tricep for both arms. damn. nice triceps. [attachmentid=1149475][attachmentid=1149477] Meh, left arm's still very noticeably smaller. |
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Aug 21 2009, 01:52 PM
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nice triceps bro, 15"?
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Aug 21 2009, 02:05 PM
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amazing triceps bro Dan....wish have that triceps on me..haha..
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Aug 21 2009, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 21 2009, 01:52 PM) nice triceps bro, 15"? Aheh, thanks. I wish they were 15". Currently they're 13 3/4 and 13 1/8 respectively. |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:06 PM
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im sure before u are into bodybuilding,u play some other sports also right?
your defination is awesome for 13 3/4! i still remember when i start bodybuilding, my arms is only 11", damn skinny weih.. how about u? u start at 12"? |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:09 PM
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Did gymnastics from age 7-12, along with loads of other sports. Basketball, football, badminton, atheletics, tennis, squash, etc. xD
My foundation was definitely built from the gymnastics. This post has been edited by -Dan: Aug 21 2009, 04:10 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 04:47 PM
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Off topic:
Where's koyak orgasm man, Zeist? |
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Aug 21 2009, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 20 2009, 12:55 AM) Pics b4 fasting month. woooahh...nice bro...but i think, i like the old you better...maybe because you look bigger ?? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Chow Added on August 21, 2009, 5:55 pm QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 20 2009, 10:43 PM) Some new pictures. Side tricep for both arms. what is your bf now bro ??» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Meh, left arm's still very noticeably smaller. This post has been edited by diablokun: Aug 21 2009, 05:55 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 21 2009, 04:47 PM) Off topic: He's very active in kopitiam. Where's koyak orgasm man, Zeist? |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 21 2009, 05:54 PM) what is your bf now bro ?? Not too sure. Where can I check it? |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 21 2009, 06:04 PM) Not too sure. Where can I check it? I think below 15% ?? hurm you can go check at fitness concept...tanita machine...or caliper... |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:17 PM
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There's this full-featured Tanita scale at every Fitness Concept you can use for free. It even prints out your results on a piece of paper. The one at 1U is defective though.
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Aug 21 2009, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(~LynX~ @ Aug 21 2009, 06:00 PM) He's very active in kopitiam. oh really? did he go there and koyak orgasm all day long? and nais nais? =.= haha did he boast bout his 320kg leg press? haha Added on August 21, 2009, 6:41 pmmuahaha... some ppl never change! =.= still like an idiot... i just found out some posts by ZEIST our mr koyak orgams 320kg leg press nais nais... =.= http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...lluser&mid=1282 This post has been edited by JonYeap: Aug 21 2009, 06:41 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 06:47 PM
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zeist is still full of shit even after my long leave of absence I see. What kind of a lame ass retarded shit phrase is "koyak orgasm"? Something zeist gets in the men's locker room when bending over to pick up a bar of soap?
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Aug 21 2009, 06:51 PM
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not to forget... NAIS NAIS... 320KG LEG PRESS!!! KASI KOYAK ORGASM... muahaha... he b4 can boast bout doing this and that, and dont think its a big deal... where is ur 140kg deadlift zeist? i still waiting since 3-4 months ago. haha |
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Aug 21 2009, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 21 2009, 06:51 PM) not to forget... NAIS NAIS... 320KG LEG PRESS!!! KASI KOYAK ORGASM... muahaha... he b4 can boast bout doing this and that, and dont think its a big deal... where is ur 140kg deadlift zeist? i still waiting since 3-4 months ago. haha zeist should know that an e-stat is not a stat unless a valid video is posted especially given the fact that his claims are outrageous. Added on August 21, 2009, 7:20 pmSo I'm in the bulking phase atm. Trying to break the 17.1 barrier. I think I broke it, not sure. Small random shot.  This post has been edited by darklight79: Aug 21 2009, 07:20 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 21 2009, 07:01 PM) F'in bullshit crap. THIS is more than a 300kg leg press:- WTB: your muscles. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « zeist should know that an e-stat is not a stat unless a valid video is posted especially given the fact that his claims are outrageous. Added on August 21, 2009, 7:20 pmSo I'm in the bulking phase atm. Trying to break the 17.1 barrier. I think I broke it, not sure. Small random shot. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 21 2009, 08:06 PM
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darklight, u always train with hat right?
why eh? 17.1??? wahh, how long does it take? |
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Aug 21 2009, 08:13 PM
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huge!!! i punch k.o LOL
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Aug 21 2009, 08:51 PM
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I just realized: Doesn't H&F have quite a habit of running posters "out of town," if we can put it that way? I mean, just off the top off my head: Budak84, King83, Zeist...
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Aug 21 2009, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 21 2009, 07:50 PM) WTB: your muscles. Lol. QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:06 PM) darklight, u always train with hat right? Not all the time but coincidentally when I feel like taking a pic there's a cap on. why eh? 17.1??? wahh, how long does it take? I went on an FST program for a few months, then switched to light weight high rep training. Still on it atm. For example, incline bench would be 95kg x 15 reps for 4 sets. The new growth surge and pump I get is amazing. I think that contributed to my extra growth. I needed to give joints and ligaments a rest since my right shoulder is giving way. QUOTE(jackwylde @ Aug 21 2009, 08:13 PM) huge!!! i punch k.o LOL I'm nice, I don't throw punches. Much. QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 21 2009, 08:51 PM) I just realized: Doesn't H&F have quite a habit of running posters "out of town," if we can put it that way? I mean, just off the top off my head: Budak84, King83, Zeist... Lol, I'm ok with King83 already. We met a few times at gatherings and we've talked cordially. Give him a break, he's been through a lot of shit from his breakup with his ex. How you doin? I lost your number btw.(I'm not sure if I'm forgetting anyone) This post has been edited by darklight79: Aug 21 2009, 09:24 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:32 PM
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Pre-Puasa shots... And arm shot. Please don't compare it with Dan and darklight, since mine would look like a twig compared to them lol.
Got my measurement taken earlier today. As I suspected, some of the measurements gets smaller due to busy work/college schedule and dont have time for regular sessions. |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:22 PM) Lol, I'm ok with King83 already. We met a few times at gatherings and we've talked cordially. Give him a break, he's been through a lot of shit from his breakup with his ex. How you doin? I lost your number btw. Hah, I wasn't condoning dogpiling specific posters until they stopped coming to the H&F forum, I just noticed that it seems to happen a lot. I've been all right--could be better, could be worse.No worries about the number--given that the last time I talked to you was, what, over a year ago?--it's no surprise I've lost your number as well. This post has been edited by angrydog: Aug 21 2009, 09:35 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(emino @ Aug 21 2009, 09:32 PM) Pre-Puasa shots... And arm shot. Please don't compare it with Dan and darklight, since mine would look like a twig compared to them lol. bro...train too much on triceps ?? nice wor
Got my measurement taken earlier today. As I suspected, some of the measurements gets smaller due to busy work/college schedule and dont have time for regular sessions. Added on August 21, 2009, 9:40 pm QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 21 2009, 07:01 PM) So I'm in the bulking phase atm. Trying to break the 17.1 barrier. I think I broke it, not sure. Small random shot. dayyummm...that's some arsenal you got there...!! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by diablokun: Aug 21 2009, 09:40 PM |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 21 2009, 09:34 PM) Hah, I wasn't condoning dogpiling specific posters until they stopped coming to the H&F forum, I just noticed that it seems to happen a lot. I've been all right--could be better, could be worse. Yeah. Lol, the training meetup which never happened. =P No worries about the number--given that the last time I talked to you was, what, over a year ago?--it's no surprise I've lost your number as well. QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 21 2009, 09:39 PM) Added on August 21, 2009, 9:40 pmdayyummm...that's some arsenal you got there...!! |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:48 PM
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I'm surprised that so many gyms here apparently let people into the weight room without a shirt on, what with the potential problems with sweaty benches and all.
re: Darkie: From what I remember, you called to tell me to check out that Pro Buffed Bodies forum Terry Gallyot had started up. I've never received an invite to a training meetup! |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:45 PM) I'm still not happy bro. I figure I'll bulk a few more weeks, maybe 2-3 then start a cutting cycle. 95kg x 15 reps for 4 sets, how long you rest between sets bro ?? p/s : 95kg benching ?? my 1RM is 90kg... |
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Aug 21 2009, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 21 2009, 09:39 PM) bro...train too much on triceps ?? nice wor NO lah. Training all parts fair and square as listed by my trainer.QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 21 2009, 09:48 PM) I'm surprised that so many gyms here apparently let people into the weight room without a shirt on, what with the potential problems with sweaty benches and all. I usually just take off shirt for pic wor... Not really working out without shirt. Plus, usually do that when all the others left (my company's gym closed at 7) and the trainer usually wont mind me hanging out late. Hehe. |
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Aug 21 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 21 2009, 09:48 PM) 95kg x 15 reps for 4 sets, how long you rest between sets bro ?? haha... his 1rm, is too high. =.=p/s : 95kg benching ?? my 1RM is 90kg...95kg, is consider his light weight. =.= |
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Aug 22 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 21 2009, 09:45 PM) I'm still not happy bro. I figure I'll bulk a few more weeks, maybe 2-3 then start a cutting cycle. ur aim is nak kalahkan dennis wolf ke kane sumabat?haha but excellent progress man ur 95kg incline bp is 95kg per sides or overall poundages? |
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Aug 22 2009, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 22 2009, 11:30 AM) ur aim is nak kalahkan dennis wolf ke kane sumabat? 95kg total bro... not per side. if per side, then he is already kane sumabat. wakkakakahaha but excellent progress man ur 95kg incline bp is 95kg per sides or overall poundages? |
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Aug 22 2009, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 22 2009, 02:01 PM) 95kg total bro... not per side. if per side, then he is already kane sumabat. wakkakaka Muahaha, if it's 95kg per side, that's 463lbs total including the bar! |
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Aug 22 2009, 06:00 PM
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Guys, I feel that my arms are getting fuller. There's like more density in em but when measured, they're the same as before.
Is it just in my mind or is there an explanation for this? |
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Aug 22 2009, 07:09 PM
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when you workout, your muscle will be bigger. Maybe you should measure during this time
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Aug 22 2009, 07:18 PM
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It's the pump which increases the measurement so I do not want to measure them then as it would not be accurate.
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Aug 22 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 22 2009, 07:09 PM) when you workout, your muscle will be bigger. Maybe you should measure during this time that will make the measurement inaccurate...coz during that time mucle is pumped up with lactic acid... |
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Aug 22 2009, 09:21 PM
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Pumped with blood
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Aug 22 2009, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 22 2009, 02:01 PM) 95kg total bro... not per side. if per side, then he is already kane sumabat. wakkakaka damn thats superbmy gym mate is currently doing 40kg's per side haha he's big but not cut yet like darkie my max is 25kg's per side = weak hey, no one's posting further progress pics? |
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Aug 22 2009, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Aug 22 2009, 09:08 PM) that will make the measurement inaccurate...coz during that time mucle is pumped up with lactic acid... If it got pumped with lactic acid the same way the muscle experiences a pump with blood, you'd be screaming. |
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Aug 22 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 22 2009, 10:35 PM) If it got pumped with lactic acid the same way the muscle experiences a pump with blood, you'd be screaming. I LOL'ed at that. I seriously did. |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 22 2009, 10:31 PM) damn thats superb 70kg is not too bad.my gym mate is currently doing 40kg's per side haha he's big but not cut yet like darkie my max is 25kg's per side = weak hey, no one's posting further progress pics? how many reps? my bench press sucks big time compared to deadlift, rows, press or squats. i cant even bench press 90kg properly. haiz... i wish to hit 100kg end of this year but dang... TENDONITIS screw my progress... |
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Aug 23 2009, 02:45 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 21 2009, 10:40 PM) haha... his 1rm, is too high. =.= My normal incline is 275 pounds for 8 reps, but now it's 15 reps per set obviously i would need to reduce. =) 95kg, is consider his light weight. =.= QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 22 2009, 06:00 PM) Guys, I feel that my arms are getting fuller. There's like more density in em but when measured, they're the same as before. Body recomp.Is it just in my mind or is there an explanation for this? |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 23 2009, 01:46 AM) 70kg is not too bad. tak sampai 70kg's dudehow many reps? my bench press sucks big time compared to deadlift, rows, press or squats. i cant even bench press 90kg properly. haiz... i wish to hit 100kg end of this year but dang... TENDONITIS screw my progress... 25kg's per sides = 50kg's the bar i think around 12kg's je cuz its not the oly bar actually, i hate barbell bb's cuz for most of my exercise except for back and legs, i love dumbbells and i used to have tendonitis bro, tapi if u throw away ur ego and rest in between workouts and use lighter weights, it'll heal and use counter pain like sloan's analgesic during workouts it'll do wonders |
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Aug 23 2009, 02:44 PM
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yup... thats what i am doing currently. haha... even bench pressing around 50kg only. =.= wakkakaka...
coz wanna let it heal slowly. |
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Aug 23 2009, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 23 2009, 02:44 PM) yup... thats what i am doing currently. haha... even bench pressing around 50kg only. =.= wakkakaka... i always believe in bb, poundages come thirdcoz wanna let it heal slowly. my priorties are 1) diet 2) diet 3) form 4) form 5) poundages |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 23 2009, 10:20 PM) i always believe in bb, poundages come third Bang u lupa nak tidur haha my priorties are 1) diet 2) diet 3) form 4) form 5) poundages This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Aug 24 2009, 11:51 AM |
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Aug 24 2009, 12:07 PM
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haha... i believe in genetics! =.=
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 24 2009, 01:07 PM) haha... i believe in genetics! =.= YUP I agree on that a lot |
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QUOTE(Kmaru @ Aug 24 2009, 05:41 PM) YUP I agree on that a lot genetics 10% je brohaha but it doubles the effectiveness of everything including diet, training, supplements and also drugs haha |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 24 2009, 09:31 PM) genetics 10% je bro You're so wrong. Bob Chick (IFBB Pro) himself said that genetics play 97% role in elite bodybuilding competitions. You can't make a pitbull out of a chihuahua no matter how much you buff up that chihuahua correct? Everything else is secondary. Elite bodybuilders are born, not made. Terry even said so, Kmaru will agree with me I'm pretty sure. haha but it doubles the effectiveness of everything including diet, training, supplements and also drugs haha I know a guy here, natural, eats just twice a day and has donuts for breakfast and he benches 100kgs for warm ups for 20 reps and benches 4 big plates a side for work sets of 6-8. That is almost what i deadlift. Genetics mate. This post has been edited by darklight79: Aug 24 2009, 09:41 PM |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 24 2009, 09:38 PM) You're so wrong. Bob Chick (IFBB Pro) himself said that genetics play 97% role in elite bodybuilding competitions. You can't make a pitbull out of a chihuahua no matter how much you buff up that chihuahua correct? Everything else is secondary. Elite bodybuilders are born, not made. Terry even said so, Kmaru will agree with me I'm pretty sure. damn!!I know a guy here, natural, eats just twice a day and has donuts for breakfast and he benches 100kgs for warm ups for 20 reps and benches 4 big plates a side for work sets of 6-8. That is almost what i deadlift. Genetics mate. haha... |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 24 2009, 09:43 PM) damn!! I'm just so jealous when I see him bench. Lol. I train with him sometimes and no way i can keep up with that guy. His bench press workout consists of 20 sets. This was exactly what the psycho did:-haha... 225lbs x 15 225lbs x 15 225lbs x 20 315lbs x 10 405lbs x 6 405lbs x 6 405lbs x 6 315lbs x 18 And the rest of the sets are cool downs of 225lbs. I mean.... wtf?! JonYeap has seen this guy in person. |
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Aug 24 2009, 09:46 PM
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the darkie has spoken... yo darkie.... u hv any problems with your shoulder when u bench?..... u strictly do dumbell only right?.. no more bar?....
i get this internal "click" when i push up above 60kgs of weights... weird |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 24 2009, 09:45 PM) I'm just so jealous when I see him bench. Lol. I train with him sometimes and no way i can keep up with that guy. His bench press workout consists of 20 sets. This was exactly what the psycho did:- sheit225lbs x 15 225lbs x 15 225lbs x 20 315lbs x 10 405lbs x 6 405lbs x 6 405lbs x 6 315lbs x 18 And the rest of the sets are cool downs of 225lbs. I mean.... wtf?! JonYeap has seen this guy in person. so that means, no matter what u do, if u dun have the genetics, better dont waste time? haha...or just go with the flow and let practice makes perfect |
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bro...if u dun hav the genetics = u will never be my olympia/universe/ batu berendam..............but u still can be. MR...im the fittest nice body sexy dude muscle muscle head in ur lil circle of friends and family...... forgive the expletives.... ... i feel its a pretty good achievement for anyone to have a great physique.....isnt that goal enough....
and look on the bright side....u EVEN get to be strooooooooooonngg...........wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 24 2009, 09:38 PM) You're so wrong. Bob Chick (IFBB Pro) himself said that genetics play 97% role in elite bodybuilding competitions. You can't make a pitbull out of a chihuahua no matter how much you buff up that chihuahua correct? Everything else is secondary. Elite bodybuilders are born, not made. Terry even said so, Kmaru will agree with me I'm pretty sure. o.O Samson.I know a guy here, natural, eats just twice a day and has donuts for breakfast and he benches 100kgs for warm ups for 20 reps and benches 4 big plates a side for work sets of 6-8. That is almost what i deadlift. Genetics mate. Dayum 2 meals a day, can bench like mad i wonder how will he looks like if he take proper meal. |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 24 2009, 09:47 PM) sheit Not really. We who are of average genetics and natural can still achieve an impressive level of physical development. I don't have to wear sleeveless anymore for people to know I bodybuild. Don't get disheartened by all that. It's no excuse to stop training. =) BB for life!so that means, no matter what u do, if u dun have the genetics, better dont waste time? haha...or just go with the flow and let practice makes perfect QUOTE(jamis @ Aug 24 2009, 10:00 PM) o.O Samson. His 2 meals are huge. Really huge. Basically he fulfills his caloric requirements with those 2 meals. The donuts are taken in the morning for energy. Lol.Dayum 2 meals a day, can bench like mad i wonder how will he looks like if he take proper meal. |
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darkie.. why u do dat.. .go leaving out vital information....ull be misleading all the new wannabes that u can eat doughnuts and eat like u usually do and POTENTIALLY BENCH 100kg... hahahhahahah
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Aug 24 2009, 10:29 PM
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So yes, genetics largely explain the extreme differences between individual bodybuilders. What they DON'T explain is: What's up with Jay Cutler's fruity little haircut?
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Aug 24 2009, 10:31 PM
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angry dog... i got ur answer..... : just cause some people are born with great genes....doesnt mean they come with great taste as well....as u see..God is fair.....except with Lebron and Jordan...Usain bolt...yada yda yada
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Aug 24 2009, 11:00 PM
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you guys agree BB is a sport for meso and ecto-meso then, because endo have to take dieting into whole different level, although they are powerhouse?
usually they shift to powerlifting. yes i mean competitive BB. Chow |
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Aug 24 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 24 2009, 11:00 PM) you guys agree BB is a sport for meso and ecto-meso then, because endo have to take dieting into whole different level, although they are powerhouse? hmm...apparently and unfortunately im a super endomorph...stupid genesusually they shift to powerlifting. yes i mean competitive BB. Chow haha |
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Aug 25 2009, 12:18 AM
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Just some back pics.
22.8.09 Been bulking for almost 3 months. W: 77kg H: 183cm 
For comparison, here are some old pics http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/714598/+1700 |
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Aug 25 2009, 02:01 AM
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bro good job bro, u are wider and your arms gain some size rite?
i think u should continue bulking! how many meals u eat a day eh? |
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Aug 25 2009, 02:41 AM
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i have seen the dude darkie was referring to. haha... freaking strong!
Genetics' is a bit!ch! No matter wat we do, there is always a limit for us. Be it juicing or wat, there is no way we can beat genetics. for example, i give u all the juice u wanna take, and also give u the best workout exercise and just do wat u need to... u can never be like ronnie coleman. haha... thats how life is... genetics sucks... we asian are considered one of the smaller one's. no doubt bout that... haha... but we can get the best out of ourself through working hard and doing wats right... BB for life... haha... |
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Aug 25 2009, 04:44 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Aug 24 2009, 11:00 PM) you guys agree BB is a sport for meso and ecto-meso then, because endo have to take dieting into whole different level, although they are powerhouse? There're quite a few ectos in competitive BB'ing I think. But the top elite, most likely not. usually they shift to powerlifting. yes i mean competitive BB. Chow QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 24 2009, 11:44 PM) hmm...apparently and unfortunately im a super endomorph...stupid genes Frank Zane is the only guy who has beaten Arnold at the Mr Olympia. He's pure ecto.haha |
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Aug 25 2009, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 25 2009, 04:44 AM) There're quite a few ectos in competitive BB'ing I think. But the top elite, most likely not. yeah?Frank Zane is the only guy who has beaten Arnold at the Mr Olympia. He's pure ecto. where's the endo brotherhood love in the world of BB? |
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Aug 25 2009, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 24 2009, 10:05 PM) Not really. We who are of average genetics and natural can still achieve an impressive level of physical development. I don't have to wear sleeveless anymore for people to know I bodybuild. Don't get disheartened by all that. It's no excuse to stop training. =) BB for life! more like a 5 pieces of chicken breast? But still i think i m still far away from my genetic limit, gona push harder.His 2 meals are huge. Really huge. Basically he fulfills his caloric requirements with those 2 meals. The donuts are taken in the morning for energy. Lol. |
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Aug 25 2009, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 24 2009, 10:29 PM) So yes, genetics largely explain the extreme differences between individual bodybuilders. What they DON'T explain is: What's up with Jay Cutler's fruity little haircut? dude, that was a bomb haircut back in 90s...it's called GQ...and i think it's better than most of the malaysian's bber hairstyles, GI or flat top... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « (seriously, what's up with that.) p/s : dennis wolf also hv the same hairstyle... |
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Aug 25 2009, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 25 2009, 02:01 AM) bro good job bro, u are wider and your arms gain some size rite? Thanks bro.i think u should continue bulking! how many meals u eat a day eh? Yeah I've gained only about 0.3 inches on my arms since I started bulking and that was after I switched to 10x10 arm training. I take 5 or 6 meals a day but on bad days, only 3. Will continue bulking. |
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Aug 26 2009, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 25 2009, 10:41 AM) Thanks bro. Keep on lifting! what is current supplement for bulking? seems that your bulking is quite clean Yeah I've gained only about 0.3 inches on my arms since I started bulking and that was after I switched to 10x10 arm training. I take 5 or 6 meals a day but on bad days, only 3. Will continue bulking. |
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Aug 26 2009, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Aug 25 2009, 10:41 AM) Thanks bro. wat exactly is 10x10 bro?Yeah I've gained only about 0.3 inches on my arms since I started bulking and that was after I switched to 10x10 arm training. I take 5 or 6 meals a day but on bad days, only 3. Will continue bulking. haha care to share? |
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Aug 26 2009, 09:37 AM
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guys, here's my progress..i think i got a lil more defined then last time..well,thanks to puasa la..but still not yet there yet..been doing the kevin levrone routine, and seriously, u guys gotta try it..well, then again, maybe it's juz me who perasan..hahaha
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Aug 26 2009, 11:18 AM
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Seriously need more bulking lo.
how long been you training? |
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Aug 26 2009, 11:36 AM
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i aim not to bulk..coz was fat back then..i'm slowly trying to ge lean..not to the extend of so damn ripped..but at least ppl know la that i'm fit enuff..that's all..
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Aug 26 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Aug 26 2009, 09:37 AM) guys, here's my progress..i think i got a lil more defined then last time..well,thanks to puasa la..but still not yet there yet..been doing the kevin levrone routine, and seriously, u guys gotta try it..well, then again, maybe it's juz me who perasan..hahaha i assume that the right one is post ? |
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Aug 26 2009, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(de.crystal @ Aug 26 2009, 11:38 AM) i assume that the right one is post ? not exactly, i post my pic sumtime ago..so those 2 pics are the new ones.. |
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Aug 26 2009, 12:16 PM
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@faiz:
Not a big fan of supplements but I'm currently using Scivation Whey and UN Creatine. I try my best to keep my meals clean but it doesn't happen all the time haha. Will keep on lifting! @jonyeap 10x10 = 10 sets of 10 reps with only 30 secs rest in between each set. Use weights which you can normally lift for about 20 times before reaching failure and use those weights for the 10x10. Superb intensity. Great pump too haha |
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Aug 26 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(D_Predator @ Aug 26 2009, 09:37 AM) guys, here's my progress..i think i got a lil more defined then last time..well,thanks to puasa la..but still not yet there yet..been doing the kevin levrone routine, and seriously, u guys gotta try it..well, then again, maybe it's juz me who perasan..hahaha hasn't even been a week of puasa man. there'll be much more noticeable diff when your done.assuming you dont go crazy at break fast and stuff your mouth will all sorts of junk fro Ramadan bazaars. gluck- |
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Aug 26 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Aug 26 2009, 02:35 AM) wat exactly is 10x10 bro? They call it GVT or German Volume Training.haha care to share? More About GVT |
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Aug 26 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 26 2009, 04:15 PM) Dam. Never knew that there were so many ways to do it. Thanks man. Missed this one |
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Aug 28 2009, 05:10 PM
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daamn, was measuring my biceps yesterday and it's only 13 inches!
And i am a 76 kg dude. Thats tinier than average right? I need a reroll |
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Aug 28 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(bledig @ Aug 28 2009, 05:10 PM) daamn, was measuring my biceps yesterday and it's only 13 inches! There are wayyyy too many variables in play to draw that conclusion.And i am a 76 kg dude. Thats tinier than average right? I need a reroll Also: Go by the mirror, rather than the measuring tape. This post has been edited by angrydog: Aug 28 2009, 05:50 PM |
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Aug 28 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(bledig @ Aug 28 2009, 05:10 PM) daamn, was measuring my biceps yesterday and it's only 13 inches! don't push it too hard bro...as long as it develop, i think should be ok...like me different, i can relax because already 16".......And i am a 76 kg dude. Thats tinier than average right? I need a reroll because i'm a fat ass....LOL hahahaha |
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Aug 28 2009, 09:48 PM
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ahhahah...diablo kun...post up some of ur dasyat arms lar.... i myself only about 14" i think .. ahha ..
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Aug 28 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Aug 28 2009, 09:48 PM) ahhahah...diablo kun...post up some of ur dasyat arms lar.... i myself only about 14" i think .. ahha .. 16" is not dasyat la braindead...all fatass ppl also like that la...full of fats around arm de....  consider this as a bodybuilding bloopers tonite laa...hahahaha |
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Aug 28 2009, 10:54 PM
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ahahha nice nice... cut down bod fat a bit...the lats can come out... good lats by the way....what do u do?... besides pulldowns...?...dips?...
my most undeveloped parts : lats, chest and calves... hahaha |
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Aug 28 2009, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Aug 28 2009, 10:54 PM) ahahha nice nice... cut down bod fat a bit...the lats can come out... good lats by the way....what do u do?... besides pulldowns...?...dips?... wah nice ka ?? LOL ROFL hahahaha LMAO....hahahamy most undeveloped parts : lats, chest and calves... hahaha lat pulldowns + cable row + standing one arm cable row (arnold's tip @ muscle mag) .... my undeveloped parts is urmmmmm all bodyparts liaoo...hahahaha my bodyfat is 25%....gilaaaaa hahaha correction : biceps is 15.8 " ...hahaha sori aku bundarkan pada titik perpuluhan yang hampir...hahahaha This post has been edited by diablokun: Aug 28 2009, 10:58 PM |
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Aug 28 2009, 11:04 PM
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LOL cikgu kata bundar. I'm closing in on 15". So close....................
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Aug 28 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 28 2009, 10:57 PM) wah nice ka ?? LOL ROFL hahahaha LMAO....hahaha relax brolat pulldowns + cable row + standing one arm cable row (arnold's tip @ muscle mag) .... my undeveloped parts is urmmmmm all bodyparts liaoo...hahahaha my bodyfat is 25%....gilaaaaa hahaha correction : biceps is 15.8 " ...hahaha sori aku bundarkan pada titik perpuluhan yang hampir...hahahaha my bf is 30% |
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Aug 29 2009, 12:24 AM
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   Mar 30, 2006_________________________Aug 28, 2009 Some random close ups taken just now. Starting to feel that I should cut...everything starting to look puffy. Should I cut? This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 29 2009, 12:25 AM |
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Aug 29 2009, 12:27 AM
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cut for 2 weeks then so from there either bulk or cut more
sigh, i got some problem drinking pure whey protein concentrate. my stomach feel unconfortable |
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Aug 29 2009, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 28 2009, 11:26 PM) relax bro Sejak bila engko 30%my bf is 30% Last time in KLCC gathering... I don't remember seeing you as being fat? |
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Aug 29 2009, 01:04 AM
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some random snap. Just bicep is noticeable. Others quite small. I'm hiding so cannot see my traps lol
 but my trap is small This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Aug 29 2009, 01:13 AM |
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Aug 29 2009, 05:29 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 29 2009, 01:04 AM) but my trap is small most of the bber i met said the same thing for traps...hit em heavy bro...really, really heavy... |
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Aug 29 2009, 05:40 AM
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yeah, I'm working on it.
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Aug 29 2009, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 28 2009, 05:46 PM) There are wayyyy too many variables in play to draw that conclusion. Here's a pic. It's still barely picking up shape unlike u guysAlso: Go by the mirror, rather than the measuring tape. OK will work harder, eat more and hope to be 14 by end of year lol *chews breakfast* |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 29 2009, 05:40 AM) yeah, I'm working on it. what excercise and poundage>? |
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Aug 29 2009, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 29 2009, 05:29 AM) most of the bber i met said the same thing for traps...hit em heavy bro...really, really heavy... What I heard is hit the traps with more volume (heavy weights goes without saying). More sets and/or more reps. |
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Aug 29 2009, 10:50 AM
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I guess I need to do shrug. what poundage donno. Cause I tot deadlift and rows already build the traps ?
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Aug 29 2009, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 29 2009, 10:50 AM) I guess I need to do shrug. what poundage donno. Cause I tot deadlift and rows already build the traps ? lol, deadlift do trained trap, but i think row is very minimalfor better trap, try doing upright row or power clean http://stronglifts.com/the-ultimate-beginn...o-power-cleans/ if you have a strap, you can go with very heavy shrug with barbell or dumbell lo. but the above i listed i have'nt done before lol, i mainly focus on 5big compound |
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Aug 29 2009, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 29 2009, 10:50 AM) I guess I need to do shrug. what poundage donno. Cause I tot deadlift and rows already build the traps ? try do the shrugs + cable upright row...for shrugs, do heavy volumes...means 1st set, > rep 10 = failure .... repeat for 4 sets... |
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Aug 29 2009, 11:29 AM
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I've tried doing power cleans. And my wrist gets real hurt. and I'm afraid to slam the barbell on my upper chest bone. furthermore, my gym dont have padded floor.
so, I will do shrug with heavy weight. and more than 10 reps. 10 to 12 reps. Hope my traps will grow |
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Aug 29 2009, 11:38 AM
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Got my traps from heavy shrugging i would say,used to use the 80Lbs dumbbells and even used the smith to shrug 80+kgs!
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Aug 29 2009, 03:03 PM
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Heavy shrugging is the way to go to build traps.
You should mix it up between using dumbbells and barbells. With dumbbells - the range of motion for your traps is larger, you can even do one side at a time. But you will be using less weight. With barbells, this is when it's time to go heavy. The best exercise would be shrugging while holding the barbell behind your back. All the best. |
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Aug 29 2009, 03:37 PM
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Trapezius is not a small muscle.
 And alot of exercise to make it bigg Barbell Shrug , Barbell Shrug behind the Back, Cable Shrugs, Machine Shoulder Shrug, Dumbbell Incline Shoulder Raise, Dumbbell Shrug, Low Pulley Row To Neck Smith Machine Shrug Smith Machine Upright Row Hang Clean Standing Dumbbell Upright Row Upright Barbell Row Upright Cable Row |
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Aug 29 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Aug 29 2009, 12:24 AM) Mar 30, 2006_________________________Aug 28, 2009 Some random close ups taken just now. Starting to feel that I should cut...everything starting to look puffy. Should I cut? Added on August 29, 2009, 6:12 pm QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 29 2009, 01:04 AM) some random snap. Just bicep is noticeable. Others quite small. I'm hiding so cannot see my traps lol u have a fit waist, if not mistaken.but my trap is small This post has been edited by de.crystal: Aug 29 2009, 06:12 PM |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:06 PM
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I have about 29'-30' waist. not sure.
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Aug 29 2009, 08:24 PM
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All good pics. Now where the hell are zeist's pics? Since he likes talking so much smack on Kopitiam.
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Aug 29 2009, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(faiz92 @ Aug 29 2009, 03:37 PM) Trapezius is not a small muscle. yeah...physically that's correct...but for the upper part of trapezius, if you can commit to shrugs and cable upright only, you still can achieve those monstrous kinda traps...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « And alot of exercise to make it bigg Barbell Shrug , Barbell Shrug behind the Back, Cable Shrugs, Machine Shoulder Shrug, Dumbbell Incline Shoulder Raise, Dumbbell Shrug, Low Pulley Row To Neck Smith Machine Shrug Smith Machine Upright Row Hang Clean Standing Dumbbell Upright Row Upright Barbell Row Upright Cable Row i started to train on heavy volumes for the past 2 months...i can see there's difference from my previous condition...  it's not gigantic, but at least that's the most develop part on my body as at today... p/s : you can see the excess fats on the nipples area...still got a lot of fats...a long journey ahead... This post has been edited by diablokun: Aug 29 2009, 08:26 PM |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:31 PM
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 Plain Smith machine or dumbell shrugs, 15-20 reps for 3-4 sets. Heavy as possible, but with good form, don't turn it into a mini clean. |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 29 2009, 09:24 PM) All good pics. Now where the hell are zeist's pics? Since he likes talking so much smack on Kopitiam. He is sulking at one corner and no one wants to go and talk to him. |
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Aug 29 2009, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 29 2009, 08:39 PM) He is sulking at one corner and no one wants to go and talk to him. Like seriously I was chatting with a female LYN member on msn and she says that he's so annoying. I can't believe he posted a squat video at Kopitiam showing atrocious form. The amount of bashing he got, he took it down in such a hurry. Lol. Guess he didn't get the responses he'd hoped for. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 29 2009, 09:51 PM) Like seriously I was chatting with a female LYN member on msn and she says that he's so annoying. I can't believe he posted a squat video at Kopitiam showing atrocious form. The amount of bashing he got, he took it down in such a hurry. Lol. Guess he didn't get the responses he'd hoped for. LoL. Perhaps he was under the impression that Kopitiam has credible trainees to critic his Squat. Fresh trainees have the mentality of posting their videos to receive a pat on the back but not open to any form of critics at all and if they do receive, they start becoming defensive. No one here is probably good enough for him since he is probably leg pressing 290kg easy breezy . |
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Aug 29 2009, 09:39 PM
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kekkkeek...... nice... zeist haz disaaaapppeered....shane cros....lost some weight i can see
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Aug 29 2009, 10:17 PM
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My traps are pathetic.
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Aug 30 2009, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 29 2009, 08:31 PM) Plain Smith machine or dumbell shrugs, 15-20 reps for 3-4 sets. Heavy as possible, but with good form, don't turn it into a mini clean. This post has been edited by Florian: Aug 30 2009, 12:38 AM |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Aug 29 2009, 09:00 PM) LoL. Perhaps he was under the impression that Kopitiam has credible trainees to critic his Squat. Fresh trainees have the mentality of posting their videos to receive a pat on the back but not open to any form of critics at all and if they do receive, they start becoming defensive.  What I disliked is how he kept spewing venom at random people minding their own business at the gym. My beef had nothing to do with the fact that he wasn't very big/lifting very little; I would've called him a douche even if he'd been some gigantic Ronnie Coleman clone.No one here is probably good enough for him since he is probably leg pressing 290kg easy breezy .This post has been edited by angrydog: Aug 30 2009, 01:16 AM |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 29 2009, 12:32 AM) Sejak bila engko 30% pakai baju ngan bukak lain broLast time in KLCC gathering... I don't remember seeing you as being fat? haha actually i also dunno whats the accurate one takpe, my full rest is march 2010 masa tu gua post gamba la later hahaha tanita nye idiot machine says my bf is 32% |
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 29 2009, 08:24 PM) yeah...physically that's correct...but for the upper part of trapezius, if you can commit to shrugs and cable upright only, you still can achieve those monstrous kinda traps... relax broi started to train on heavy volumes for the past 2 months...i can see there's difference from my previous condition... it's not gigantic, but at least that's the most develop part on my body as at today... p/s : you can see the excess fats on the nipples area...still got a lot of fats...a long journey ahead... biar lambat asal selamat pakai steroid cepat dapat tapi jalan also cepat hahaha QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 29 2009, 08:31 PM) Plain Smith machine or dumbell shrugs, 15-20 reps for 3-4 sets. Heavy as possible, but with good form, don't turn it into a mini clean. some people hate using the smith machine for god knows why. some say, pakai machine will not illicit growth oh well... i believe in common sense but urs is also gigantic eh darkie haha |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 30 2009, 02:58 AM) relax bro yeah...couldn't be more agree on that...LOLbiar lambat asal selamat pakai steroid cepat dapat tapi jalan also cepat hahaha it's been 8 months since i hit the gym...on and off...losing 16kg is not bad aite ?? go go diablokun |
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Aug 30 2009, 06:10 AM
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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 30 2009, 05:52 AM) yeah...couldn't be more agree on that...LOL heheit's been 8 months since i hit the gym...on and off...losing 16kg is not bad aite ?? go go diablokun set long term goal cukup it'll avoid plateau mindset and losing momentum |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 30 2009, 10:25 AM) Those people are stupid. Every pro and amateur bb'er will tell you that machines and free weights both are tools as a means to an end. Not the end itself. I used to have the freeweight only hardcore mentality till I realized that kind of mindset was severely limiting my potential. I even do an entire workout just based on machines sometimes. yeah i knowi never never allow the muscle to get used with either free weights or machines every 2-3 weeks i will sure alternate although certain things like legs i still do much of the same thing except i either up the poundages or sets cuz legs are my greatest assets hey darkie just wanna know, whats ur normal routine for back? im bored with my current routine la which includes the following although not all at the same time i.e. wide grip lat pulldowns / close grip pulldowns barbell rows - will never miss this although im still using puny weights (15-25 kg's per side depends on mood) but kept at 15-20 reps (registryeditor thought me the right way) t-bar / seated rows (pulley / handles) lying back raises - for the back delts chin ups and sometimes if im bored squats - This post has been edited by gtoforce: Aug 30 2009, 02:38 PM |
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Gto force....... puny weights?... 25 kg per side + bar = total 60kg....... its not puny wei.... i myself only go for 40kg bent over rows...
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 30 2009, 02:38 PM) yeah i know --------------> My journal. It's all there. I stopped posting there for a while cos i have other commitments but I'll resume sometime in the near future. But my back workouts are there.i never never allow the muscle to get used with either free weights or machines every 2-3 weeks i will sure alternate although certain things like legs i still do much of the same thing except i either up the poundages or sets cuz legs are my greatest assets hey darkie just wanna know, whats ur normal routine for back? im bored with my current routine la which includes the following although not all at the same time i.e. wide grip lat pulldowns / close grip pulldowns barbell rows - will never miss this although im still using puny weights (15-25 kg's per side depends on mood) but kept at 15-20 reps (registryeditor thought me the right way) t-bar / seated rows (pulley / handles) lying back raises - for the back delts chin ups and sometimes if im bored squats - |
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Aug 31 2009, 04:37 PM
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 Been doing pullups only for almost 2months cause gym is closed and exams. Anybody knows when gym rakyat kg.pandan is reopening? I miss squatting |
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Aug 31 2009, 05:47 PM
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Since everyone is talking about Traps, here's mine
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Aug 31 2009, 06:07 PM
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nice traps. zoom out more so can see shoulder
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 31 2009, 06:07 PM) nice traps. zoom out more so can see shoulder On my next update |
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smith machine, is it ok to use it for squat? i heard it will not trigger the additional stabilizer muscle but for me, i feel smith machine safer.
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Aug 31 2009, 07:53 PM) smith machine, is it ok to use it for squat? i heard it will not trigger the additional stabilizer muscle but for me, i feel smith machine safer. it gives a different range of motion.i still cant get use to it. by some of my frens dont do freeweights, they do more on smith squats. heck... even darkie uses smith machine, so i guess its ok... its up to u i guess... i would choose free weights. personal choice i suppose. =.= |
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Aug 31 2009, 07:53 PM) smith machine, is it ok to use it for squat? i heard it will not trigger the additional stabilizer muscle but for me, i feel smith machine safer. Just don't use the Smith machine to do bicep curls. |
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Sep 1 2009, 12:12 AM) Just don't use the Smith machine to do bicep curls. lol!!! muahahhaha guys, have any of u seen someone using the smith machine to do leg press? =.= i got a shock when i see this... wakkakaka |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 1 2009, 12:15 AM) lol!!! muahahhaha Haha LOL I've seen that in my gym. I dun quite understand why they do that when the freaking leg press machine is just like 3m away.   guys, have any of u seen someone using the smith machine to do leg press? =.= i got a shock when i see this... wakkakaka The leg press machine may not be of Hammer Strength quality but at least it's meant for leg press. They lie on the floor and push the Smith bar upwards. I think that's kinda dangerous. This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Sep 1 2009, 12:37 AM |
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Sep 1 2009, 12:49 AM
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thats the thing... this dude sit on the bench and do that... i dunno why... smith machine in my gym is right beside the leg press
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Sep 1 2009, 01:02 AM
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i prefer free weight too but since i went to gym alone, there is no one will support me if i fail..haha....since i'm on bulking, my workout is focusses more on squat. is doing squat using smith machine will affect the gain i will have than using free weight?
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QUOTE(MayAnne @ Aug 31 2009, 02:12 PM) Unapproved posts have been set invisible. Personal insults/attacks are not permitted in the Forum. Consider this a verbal warning... and if it happens again, 10% will be added to your warn logs. i think the standard bar at the squat rack is 12kg's kanso that makes it around 62? haha |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:03 AM
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leg press with smith machine? i wonder how that dude did it..
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Aug 31 2009, 07:53 PM) smith machine, is it ok to use it for squat? i heard it will not trigger the additional stabilizer muscle but for me, i feel smith machine safer. good start with a smith machine for squat to get ur 'tonggek' (arch) right, and ur elbows position, ur knees etcbut i believe both will promote growth but perhaps smith is a lot slower QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 1 2009, 12:15 AM) lol!!! muahahhaha there's nothing wrong i think guys, have any of u seen someone using the smith machine to do leg press? =.= i got a shock when i see this... wakkakaka i've seen this guy in bb.com super huge guy but friendly he posts vids at his bodyspace but forgot la his nick he did that too i think timberwolf pun buat |
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Sep 1 2009, 01:02 AM) i prefer free weight too but since i went to gym alone, there is no one will support me if i fail..haha....since i'm on bulking, my workout is focusses more on squat. is doing squat using smith machine will affect the gain i will have than using free weight? If you're just starting out, I think pretty much anything you do in the gym will get results.This post has been edited by angrydog: Sep 1 2009, 01:06 AM |
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Sep 1 2009, 01:05 AM) If you're just starting out, I think pretty much anything you do in the gym will get results. got that right |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 1 2009, 01:02 AM) i think the standard bar at the squat rack is 12kg's kan Standard Olympic sized bar 20 kg's bro. Biasanye kat squat rack tu 20 kg's but some gyms might not have that. so that makes it around 62? haha There isn't a squat rack in my gym hahaa This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Sep 1 2009, 01:12 AM |
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Sep 1 2009, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Sep 1 2009, 01:11 AM) Standard Olympic sized bar 20 kg's bro. Biasanye kat squat rack tu 20 kg's but some gyms might not have that. aku tak rase gym aku pegi tu, or the other gym i go i.e. fitness first the bars are 20kg's There isn't a squat rack in my gym hahaa at least they dont feel 20kg's tapi berat gak cuz its long (the standard bench press / squat bar i think is 12kg's kot)...i've never tried the oly bar nor have i seen one...tapi i could be wrong cuz those bars might be 20kg's actually hahaha... This post has been edited by gtoforce: Sep 1 2009, 06:03 AM |
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Sep 1 2009, 07:32 AM
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hehe. If do leg press with smith, how do they lock the bar. standard man barbell 20kg, woman 15kg.
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Sep 1 2009, 08:04 AM
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One of the odd exercises i saw was doing dumbbell bench press using a Swiss ball and the guy was using 100Lbs per side (Max weight for dumbbell),i tried it the following and found that its quite hard as i was only able to use 30Lbs and maintain correct form,if i went for higher poundage its really hard to control the movemnt.
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I think once while i was benching my max weight, i suddenly feel weak. Can't carry up anymore!! No matter how much i try. Have to roll it down my chest, stomach, legs and to the floor.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 08:04 AM) One of the odd exercises i saw was doing dumbbell bench press using a Swiss ball and the guy was using 100Lbs per side (Max weight for dumbbell),i tried it the following and found that its quite hard as i was only able to use 30Lbs and maintain correct form,if i went for higher poundage its really hard to control the movemnt. Swiss balls are awesome for training core stability and general balance. QUOTE(bledig @ Sep 1 2009, 09:16 AM) I think once while i was benching my max weight, i suddenly feel weak. Can't carry up anymore!! No matter how much i try. Have to roll it down my chest, stomach, legs and to the floor. I did that before. Had to tense up my whole body in fear of breaking a rib or something. I was kinda bruised for awhile later:P  The kind of annoying thing was, there were 2 other guys in the gym at that time who're somewhat regulars. And all they did was watch as I was trying to get the bar off me and onto the floor. I mean, I don't expect people to go over and help a complete stranger, but wouldn't it be the better thing to do to get a bunch of weights off a person? xP |
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Sep 1 2009, 08:54 PM
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Does anybody want to experiment with the swiss ball? It sounds like if you can overload those stabilizers, you may be able to get some way in strength.
Anybody? |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 08:54 PM) Does anybody want to experiment with the swiss ball? It sounds like if you can overload those stabilizers, you may be able to get some way in strength. Care to elaborate on that one bro?Anybody? Am curious. |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 08:04 AM) One of the odd exercises i saw was doing dumbbell bench press using a Swiss ball and the guy was using 100Lbs per side (Max weight for dumbbell),i tried it the following and found that its quite hard as i was only able to use 30Lbs and maintain correct form,if i went for higher poundage its really hard to control the movemnt. That's a pretty stupid thing to do. Seriously. There's been several posts like that on bb.com forums are they got flamed to high heaven. QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 1 2009, 05:43 PM) Swiss balls are awesome for training core stability and general balance. Lol whut? No. |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 08:04 AM) One of the odd exercises i saw was doing dumbbell bench press using a Swiss ball and the guy was using 100Lbs per side (Max weight for dumbbell),i tried it the following and found that its quite hard as i was only able to use 30Lbs and maintain correct form,if i went for higher poundage its really hard to control the movemnt. Since the ball requires you to keep your balance, a number of supportive muscle groups are called into play, thus creating a more "well-rounded" athlete, not only in muscular terms, but in functional terms, too. But I think it's not worth to try, at my level I means... |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 09:04 PM) Care to elaborate on that one bro? I'm wondering, if the Swiss ball can overload your stabilizers, perhaps you can get stronger by switching a part of your bench workout, to dumbbell benches on a Swiss ball. I've seen Joe DeFranco do it and put his athletes to it. They also like to use chains to act as overloading agents, though I'm not sure anybody on this forum needs this yet.Am curious. Basically, they will choose one bench exercise (pin benches for example) Work to a max according to the Prilepin's table. Then they move to exercises that require the stabilizers to fry, and the Swiss ball bench is one of them. Sometimes they change to kettlebells and chains as well. Kettlebells shake like crazy when put on a barbell. If you don't watch it properly, you may be benching just 40KG but the bar can fall and turn your teeth out.  It's worth a try, if you can keep the ego out and progress gradually from lighter to heavier dumbbells on the swiss ball. This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 1 2009, 09:45 PM |
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The guy who did that is the previous manager/owner of Celebrity fitness,Jamie is his name.
Serious bodybuilder with an awesome body,now no longer in Malaysia tho,he is American. Used to pump the 100 pounders as if it was nothing,i spotted him for barbell bench until 250kgs. I might give the Swiss ball bench a serious effort if i see some progress in 3 more weeks. |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 09:24 PM) It's worth a try, if you can keep the ego out and progress gradually from lighter to heavier dumbbells on the swiss ball. if you're referring to me, i'm not ego bro...in my head, a tonnes of training method i'd like to try but with limited time to do workout and physical constraint, i'm really not fit to try most of it...including the swiss balls... |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 09:45 PM) The guy who did that is the previous manager/owner of Celebrity fitness,Jamie is his name. Do keep me updated with the progress.Serious bodybuilder with an awesome body,now no longer in Malaysia tho,he is American. Used to pump the 100 pounders as if it was nothing,i spotted him for barbell bench until 250kgs. I might give the Swiss ball bench a serious effort if i see some progress in 3 more weeks. I tried doing push-ups on a swiss ball before. Silliest thing ever. I kept falling on the ball. Added on September 1, 2009, 9:56 pm QUOTE(diablokun @ Sep 1 2009, 09:48 PM) if you're referring to me, i'm not ego bro...in my head, a tonnes of training method i'd like to try but with limited time to do workout and physical constraint, i'm really not fit to try most of it...including the swiss balls... I didn't even know you posted anything. I was looking for the video for the kettlebell bench when you posted your reply, so I didn't even see your reply. Rest assured, I was more concerned about other more important things.This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Sep 1 2009, 09:56 PM |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 09:51 PM) I didn't even know you posted anything. I was looking for the video for the kettlebell bench when you posted your reply, so I didn't even see your reply. Rest assured, I was more concerned about other more important things. LMAO allrighty then...being over sensitive I am... |
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Sep 1 2009, 10:06 PM
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Sure,ego is not a problem as i take it more as a challenge!
Push ups might require a little bit more balance. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Sep 1 2009, 09:09 PM) That's a pretty stupid thing to do. Seriously. There's been several posts like that on bb.com forums are they got flamed to high heaven. Why not?Lol whut? No. |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 1 2009, 10:45 PM) The guy who did that is the previous manager/owner of Celebrity fitness,Jamie is his name. Just try not to fall off the swiss ball. It's a big mess if that happens.Serious bodybuilder with an awesome body,now no longer in Malaysia tho,he is American. Used to pump the 100 pounders as if it was nothing,i spotted him for barbell bench until 250kgs. I might give the Swiss ball bench a serious effort if i see some progress in 3 more weeks. |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 1 2009, 09:51 PM) Do keep me updated with the progress. Not with your feet on the ball meh?I tried doing push-ups on a swiss ball before. Silliest thing ever. I kept falling on the ball. You did it with both hands on the ball instead? |
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Sep 1 2009, 11:08 PM) Not with your feet on the ball meh? I'm not that smart alright. Give it up already.You did it with both hands on the ball instead? |
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Sep 1 2009, 10:43 PM) Just try not to fall off the swiss ball. It's a big mess if that happens. Its easy to balance actually,the trick is balancing both weights at the end of your arms and also to control the rebound. |
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Sep 2 2009, 12:25 AM
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easier said than done. =.=
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Me benching 45lbs DB.
I have no idea why the video is so laggy...it was fine on the phone. Must have been youtube's fault for compressing it. Darklight is going to bash me for not going down all the way, but I swear it's the lowest I could go and it was my 4th set for DB bench press and before that I did 5 4 sets of flat BB bench press and 5 sets of SM incline bench press. |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Sep 2 2009, 12:31 AM) Me benching 45lbs DB. Why? It looks fine to me. As long as you get the stretch. Seriously those weights don't do you justice. I know you can push much harder than that. Great form.I have no idea why the video is so laggy...it was fine on the phone. Must have been youtube's fault for compressing it. Darklight is going to bash me for not going down all the way, but I swear it's the lowest I could go and it was my 4th set for DB bench press and before that I did 5 4 sets of flat BB bench press and 5 sets of SM incline bench press. |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 2 2009, 12:25 AM) easier said than done. =.= Its not as difficult as it looks,am doing it so i know! |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Sep 2 2009, 01:39 AM) Why? It looks fine to me. As long as you get the stretch. Seriously those weights don't do you justice. I know you can push much harder than that. Great form. Yeah, i love this quote by scott abel from t-nationStrength doesn't increase forever and ever. There's a ceiling effect. What happens is after the bodybuilders learn that it's the amount of stress the muscle is under and not the load, they actually start to progress more by using less and less weight. — Scott Abel By the way, florian ur video looks like gif file :s. |
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Wuahahaha!!!
finally finish my busy thing last week and back to my lovely workout yesterday but ended up sinfully with heavy KFC |
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talk about KFcccc....at one time i against and avoided kfc and now i myself addicted to it...
hate all the oily part but what to do the tatste is so good good source of protein + the oil = ?? |
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is the oil healthy ? I'm afraid if it use the trans fat to fry it.
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Sep 2 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Sep 2 2009, 02:16 PM) is the oil healthy ? I'm afraid if it use the trans fat to fry it. |
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wuahahaha
well once a blue moon lo plus i wanna taste the shrimp stick ma taste quite nice la hehehehe kurtkob78--> KFC is not healthy la hehehe!!! just sometimes cant ignore from the smells |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Sep 2 2009, 01:16 PM) is the oil healthy ? I'm afraid if it use the trans fat to fry it. honestly, is KFC's chicken that bad ?? restrain yourself like that gosh...i don't understand...or you are a fully-oil-free-dude ??so, how you consume chicken breast ?? kukus ?? |
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Sep 2 2009, 06:17 PM
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the thing about KFC is that the oil is reused. And some say they use trans fat.
There's enough oil and fat i consume at mamak / cafe / restaurant. All the food at mamak and cafe is oily. Cannot escape that. I just supplement with some olive and fish oil. btw I seldom cook my food. not much time. |
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KFC oil is definitely reused. See the colour of the oil also know already. Its like dark brownish. Most fried chicken vendors also like that. Cuz there's a large amount of oil being used and its expensive if they keep changing it.
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Sep 2 2009, 06:56 PM
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I usually eat dinner plate with 3 breasts but i remove the skin. The smell makes me feel sick btw. But what to do, friend want to gain weight. What makes me even sicker is sushi king. RM20 for a rice ball.
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agree with you john91
i still remember there is one person in H&F who goes to kfc almost everyday and once he enter the premis the people at the counter know what is he going to order....go in pay and come out....forgot who was tat...if im not mistaken angrydog is a kfc lover too.. sometimes the chicken covered with oil and it will oozes out on your plate....almost like drinking oil from the fried chicken it takes longer time to digest the chicken since its covered with all the oil stuff. so kfc surely not recommended for prework meal cheat meal... |
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QUOTE(lcsum @ Sep 2 2009, 07:11 PM) agree with you john91 Sounds like king83 ... hummmmmmmi still remember there is one person in H&F who goes to kfc almost everyday and once he enter the premis the people at the counter know what is he going to order....go in pay and come out....forgot who was tat...if im not mistaken angrydog is a kfc lover too.. sometimes the chicken covered with oil and it will oozes out on your plate....almost like drinking oil from the fried chicken it takes longer time to digest the chicken since its covered with all the oil stuff. so kfc surely not recommended for prework meal cheat meal...But i owas heard from ppl who worked in KFC before, they will never ever buy those stuff aft tat. They said the process is disgusting |
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QUOTE(lcsum @ Sep 2 2009, 07:11 PM) agree with you john91 i still remember there is one person in H&F who goes to kfc almost everyday and once he enter the premis the people at the counter know what is he going to order....go in pay and come out....forgot who was tat...if im not mistaken angrydog is a kfc lover too.. That ain't the half of it. Other unhealthy things I love (and eat frequently) in addition to KFC: - steak - Ramly burgers - mashed potatoes with lots of butter - chili crab - fatty pork - billionaire's bacon - curry laksa - kaya (okay, pretty much anything with tons of coconut milk in it) - Yorkshire pudding - etc. QUOTE sometimes the chicken covered with oil and it will oozes out on your plate....almost like drinking oil from the fried chicken Reading that description literally made me go it takes longer time to digest the chicken since its covered with all the oil stuff. so kfc surely not recommended for prework meal cheat meal... |
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Sep 2 2009, 09:04 PM
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I don't know read from where, a strength coach once said that he can smell the trans fat oozing throught the pores of athletes who are coming for the weigh-in.
(you know, weight class athletes go sauna and sweat themselves to reduce weight for the weight in) |
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Sep 2 2009, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Sep 2 2009, 09:04 PM) I don't know read from where, a strength coach once said that he can smell the trans fat oozing throught the pores of athletes who are coming for the weigh-in. paul chek.(you know, weight class athletes go sauna and sweat themselves to reduce weight for the weight in) |
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Sep 2 2009, 10:09 PM
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OMG Ramly burgers FTW.
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Sep 2 2009, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Sep 2 2009, 10:09 PM) OMG Ramly burgers FTW. John! I can smell the odour of Planta margarine oozing out of your pores & sweat here in CHINA!LMAO! |
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Sep 2 2009, 11:51 PM
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hehe, now there's advertising to promote the use planta. "fry your rice with planta, your children will love it" . wtf
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Sep 3 2009, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 2 2009, 08:23 PM) But i owas heard from ppl who worked in KFC before, they will never ever buy those stuff aft tat. They said the process is disgusting wait till u see mamak's kitchen...LOL |
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Sep 3 2009, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Sep 2 2009, 09:03 PM) That ain't the half of it. Other unhealthy things I love (and eat frequently) in addition to KFC: Nao who said eat KFC maks you fat??? angrydog is fit - steak - Ramly burgers - mashed potatoes with lots of butter - chili crab - fatty pork - billionaire's bacon - curry laksa - kaya (okay, pretty much anything with tons of coconut milk in it) - Yorkshire pudding - etc. Reading that description literally made me go Chow This post has been edited by bata: Sep 3 2009, 02:49 AM |
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Sep 3 2009, 02:58 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Sep 3 2009, 02:39 AM) Nao who said eat KFC maks you fat??? angrydog is fit Not according to the reactions the last time I put up photos! Chow |
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Sep 3 2009, 02:59 AM
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most ppl has hard time to differentiate fat mass and muscle mass.
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Sep 3 2009, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Sep 3 2009, 02:59 AM) most ppl has hard time to differentiate fat mass and muscle mass. Full disclosure: A lot of it IS fat, and my blood pressure is only a unit or two from the prehypertension range.Chow (On the other hand, I passed my last stress test the other month with flying colors.) |
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Sep 3 2009, 12:47 PM
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Thansks Jamis, yes its him the guy who goes to KFC almost everyday, King83. What happen to this guy anyway long time never see him in here. He always become darklight's victim before zeist.
Angrydog: Your statement makes me wonder how is your LDL, HDL and cholesterol level is. What is your doctor's advice base on the result? Stress test is related to hearth and artery condition rite. Wow your 'taste good food' list makes me go hungry This post has been edited by lcsum: Sep 3 2009, 03:17 PM |
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Sep 3 2009, 01:04 PM
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All the other numbers are good, actually. Pretty strange, considering my diet.
I think Malaysians have a Pavlovian response whenever they see the words "Ramly burger" written anywhere. |
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Sep 3 2009, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Sep 3 2009, 01:04 PM) All the other numbers are good, actually. Pretty strange, considering my diet. I read a study, but as usual lah...I never bother to bookmark it. There was a doctor that believed that HDL/LDL/saturated fat is all good stuff. He says that cholesterol is just running in your body and when there's a problem, cholesterol will fix it. I think Malaysians have a Pavlovian response whenever they see the words "Ramly burger" written anywhere. AH! FOUND IT! http://westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html And then, there's another study (which I can't access because I don't have the acc password/username) about cholesterol, fat and protein. It has very solid proof (Test subject of 150 ppl. 86 ppl managed to finish the test) that may ruin the agriculture industry. It seems, we humans really do not need...... rice! We can basically live very well off simple meat and fruits. That bodes great for me, because I can't stand rice. It leaves me bloated. |
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Sep 3 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 3 2009, 02:17 PM) I read a study, but as usual lah...I never bother to bookmark it. There was a doctor that believed that HDL/LDL/saturated fat is all good stuff. He says that cholesterol is just running in your body and when there's a problem, cholesterol will fix it. If you are able to access the site, please let me have a full copy of the journal article for reading purposes . 150 samples and 86 of them made through isn't that convincing but then again, running through the report might prove me wrong.AH! FOUND IT! http://westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html And then, there's another study (which I can't access because I don't have the acc password/username) about cholesterol, fat and protein. It has very solid proof (Test subject of 150 ppl. 86 ppl managed to finish the test) that may ruin the agriculture industry. It seems, we humans really do not need...... rice! We can basically live very well off simple meat and fruits. That bodes great for me, because I can't stand rice. It leaves me bloated. |
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Sep 3 2009, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Sep 3 2009, 03:12 PM) If you are able to access the site, please let me have a full copy of the journal article for reading purposes . 150 samples and 86 of them made through isn't that convincing but then again, running through the report might prove me wrong. 86 samples. I think that's good enough for me. The dropout rate is quite high, but I think it's because the study was run in US, where it's rather hard for them to stick to a proper diet for a long time. I'd like to see the study done in Europe though. That ought to have solid consistent entries. |
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Sep 3 2009, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 3 2009, 01:17 PM) I read a study, but as usual lah...I never bother to bookmark it. There was a doctor that believed that HDL/LDL/saturated fat is all good stuff. He says that cholesterol is just running in your body and when there's a problem, cholesterol will fix it. Errr... it's not that surprising actually. Rice (and wheat) simply happens to be a great source of energy, and thus cultivated.AH! FOUND IT! http://westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html And then, there's another study (which I can't access because I don't have the acc password/username) about cholesterol, fat and protein. It has very solid proof (Test subject of 150 ppl. 86 ppl managed to finish the test) that may ruin the agriculture industry. It seems, we humans really do not need...... rice! We can basically live very well off simple meat and fruits. That bodes great for me, because I can't stand rice. It leaves me bloated. I attended a 7th Day Adventist church seminar a looooonng time ago (some friend trying to convert me. LOL!). One points they kept hammering to their members is good nutrition through primitive diet. Primitive as in: Fruits & only fruits. Even vegetables are not considered the main source of food for humans. Of course, that's not possible for most. So it is only an ideal diet. They then suggested this: Fruits, vege and Jesus bread. (OK, OK! I made this name up because they were referring to the type of bread made during Jesus's time. Not the white bread we have now, but the raw, hard, brown bread 2000 years ago.) =) Think about fruit fasting, if some dude can live with just eating fruits for a week and become healthier... I'm sure we could eat fruits only for all our lives with no problem. Well, perhaps protein might be a bit of a problem in the long term. |
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Sep 3 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 3 2009, 09:07 PM) 86 samples. I think that's good enough for me. The dropout rate is quite high, but I think it's because the study was run in US, where it's rather hard for them to stick to a proper diet for a long time. I'd like to see the study done in Europe though. That ought to have solid consistent entries. When evaluating a study, there are lots of things that you need to look into. Its not a matter of who can stick to a diet or so. We don't know what they really eat. Studies can be very misleading. You are saying that a success rate of 57% could justify things for you? Not very convincing to me. Whats more without running through the journal, you wouldn't even know who are the samples ; athletes ? some jock ? old people ? To also say that humans don't need rice to survive is just too much . A lot of things should be put into consideration. Credibility of a study is so important because we got heaps of journal articles these days proving things that would only cause a huge mislead. I'm just trying to make a point here because I don't want everyone to go home and start eating meat and fruits and nothing else. Things like this just can't be preached. w/r This post has been edited by shanecross: Sep 3 2009, 09:22 PM |
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Sep 3 2009, 09:35 PM
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Very true. I'll see what I can do about the journal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCFZoqmKf5M Pretty close to what we're talking bout. |
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Sep 4 2009, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE(John91 @ Sep 2 2009, 06:51 PM) KFC oil is definitely reused. See the colour of the oil also know already. Its like dark brownish. Most fried chicken vendors also like that. Cuz there's a large amount of oil being used and its expensive if they keep changing it. I did some part time work at McDonalds for around a month before, and here's how they handle cooking oil.They completely change the oil about once or twice a week, the rest of the time the oil is topped up when necessary. So naturally, by the time a change is due, the oil has turned rather dark. Can't say I know how KFC's kitchen procedures are exactly, but i'd say its similar. |
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Sep 4 2009, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(~LynX~ @ Sep 4 2009, 04:29 AM) I did some part time work at McDonalds for around a month before, and here's how they handle cooking oil. oil change per 1 week with alot of cooking per day. Are McD using normal palm oil or specil oil ?They completely change the oil about once or twice a week, the rest of the time the oil is topped up when necessary. So naturally, by the time a change is due, the oil has turned rather dark. Can't say I know how KFC's kitchen procedures are exactly, but i'd say its similar. |
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Sep 4 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(lcsum @ Sep 3 2009, 12:47 PM) Thansks Jamis, yes its him the guy who goes to KFC almost everyday, King83. What happen to this guy anyway long time never see him in here. He always become darklight's victim before zeist. halloAngrydog: Your statement makes me wonder how is your LDL, HDL and cholesterol level is. What is your doctor's advice base on the result? Stress test is related to hearth and artery condition rite. Wow your 'taste good food' list makes me go hungry |
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Sep 4 2009, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(King83 @ Sep 4 2009, 09:55 AM) hallo |
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Sep 4 2009, 12:16 PM
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'i'm the guy your mother warned you'....nice try King83. How is your training going on?
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Sep 4 2009, 12:36 PM
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Hey king83 how's going? still 100kg?
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Sep 4 2009, 12:51 PM
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elloz...
I've been 105kg for awhile now... trying to keep it that way, don't wanna get any heavier 'cos i keep breaking them chairs lol. But lately i have gotten a lil bigger, when i stepped on the scale, i was shocked to see myself at 108kg lifetime heaviest... so i am dieting now.... atm i'm back to 105kg, i'm thinking of dropping back to double digits, cos i wanna be faster in sports. got caught up with the numbers bcos i am getting stronger and stronger so i continue eating without realizing my weight is shooting up Added on September 4, 2009, 12:51 pmwhat about u guys ? This post has been edited by King83: Sep 4 2009, 12:51 PM |
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Sep 4 2009, 12:53 PM
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met lynx the other day, big guy
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Sep 4 2009, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(King83 @ Sep 4 2009, 12:51 PM) elloz... cool, i have been downsizing to 84kg, planning to get to 90+ end of this year. Now i can feel tat i lose strength on my DL. Dayum.I've been 105kg for awhile now... trying to keep it that way, don't wanna get any heavier 'cos i keep breaking them chairs lol. But lately i have gotten a lil bigger, when i stepped on the scale, i was shocked to see myself at 108kg lifetime heaviest... so i am dieting now.... atm i'm back to 105kg, i'm thinking of dropping back to double digits, cos i wanna be faster in sports. got caught up with the numbers bcos i am getting stronger and stronger so i continue eating without realizing my weight is shooting up Added on September 4, 2009, 12:51 pmwhat about u guys ? |
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Sep 4 2009, 04:25 PM
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damn, that sucks...
i dun wanna lose strength either |
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Sep 5 2009, 09:49 AM
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yeah, it is very demotivating, i m going to start with light again, at least my gut is smaller now hehe.
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Sep 6 2009, 05:11 AM
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my back. still "malu" want to show with shirt off. still skinny. i'm bulking currently. the most effective workout for back is lat pulldown?
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Sep 6 2009, 07:17 AM
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the shirt do no justice for you bro
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Sep 6 2009, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Sep 6 2009, 05:11 AM) my back. still "malu" want to show with shirt off. still skinny. i'm bulking currently. the most effective workout for back is lat pulldown? Only one exercise is not enough.
BB row, lat pull down, one arm DB row, deadlift and seated cable row, shrugs. |
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