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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 3 2009, 01:47 PM) ... yea i noe bout that, i mean ppl usually didnt do reps more than 10, or mayb 15... my point is, lift heavier, n less frequency? lik 3x5, 5reps is enuf?the 3X signifies..sets...most ppl do between 3-6 sets....... reps are normally 4-13 depending on what is your goal.... meanint 3x10x40kg...means 3 sets of 10 reps using 40kg weights.. go google it up....  hm... my goal is loss fat 1st, and shape up my body  whow btw... 2nd post  |
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 3 2009, 03:07 PM) why pedro email me to open thread? any of u guys oso can open la hahaha Original starter always better!! |
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Reps from 6-12 is said to build muscle mass. 4-6 reps for strentgh. 13 and above not sure though. I do my reps between 6-12. If you want to lose fat first, do more cardio and eat clean and a bit lower than your body needs. maybe 2-4 days cardio, 3 days weight lifting. follow this for 2 weeks and see how is the result
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 03:19 PM) Original starter always better!! haha i've been absent from lyn for so long man. and pizzaboy is a damn moderator. damn you pizzaboy. too packed with my damn studies. lol |
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I failed to do proper dumbbell flyes yesterday, even with a friend coaching. My grip was wrong.. etc.. T_______T Never knew it was so hard. Gonna try again today!
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QUOTE(Nikorasu @ Mar 3 2009, 03:29 PM) I failed to do proper dumbbell flyes yesterday, even with a friend coaching. My grip was wrong.. etc.. T_______T Never knew it was so hard. Gonna try again today! symptoms of dumbbell being too heavy. lol |
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With 2.5kg also cannot. I think my wrist(s) especially my left is too weak. I felt like shit after trying so many times and failed in the end.
edit: -luckily- My housemate showed me the new animated Wonder Woman movie to cheer me up (not supposed to be released on blu-ray yet). If not I'll punch the wall until my knuckles bleed. This post has been edited by Nikorasu: Mar 3 2009, 03:39 PM |
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lol slowly la mate. everybody starts from below..
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goddamn, jones. you went AWOL for ages havent you?? lolwut hagaga
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 3 2009, 03:44 PM) lol slowly la mate. everybody starts from below.. Yeah. *hangs head low* I don't give up easily! |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 3 2009, 03:19 PM) Reps from 6-12 is said to build muscle mass. 4-6 reps for strentgh. 13 and above not sure though. I do my reps between 6-12. If you want to lose fat first, do more cardio and eat clean and a bit lower than your body needs. maybe 2-4 days cardio, 3 days weight lifting. follow this for 2 weeks and see how is the result thanks for the info... is 3sets sufficient for building muscle mass? i'l try 4 days cardio n 3days weight lifting for 2weeks then ohya btw, i am considered underweight if calculate the ratio of height n weight (duno wat the calculation method name) jz wanna get rid of my tummy fat  |
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 3 2009, 03:57 PM) thanks for the info... is 3sets sufficient for building muscle mass? i'l try 4 days cardio n 3days weight lifting for 2weeks then that means u got fats on ur tummy thats all. ohya btw, i am considered underweight if calculate the ratio of height n weight (duno wat the calculation method name) jz wanna get rid of my tummy fat do some cardio, eat clean. and do sit ups to build the abs... |
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 3 2009, 03:07 PM) why pedro email me to open thread? any of u guys oso can open la hahaha bcos u r the bber topic guardian angel mah...  need to know what is the resting interval between each set?...last month during workout..i rest around 30seconds after each set...then my fren who got engaged PT say i should actually rest more than 1 min... i rest 30 seconds becos i want to burn fat...but then he say cannoy like that~ |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 3 2009, 04:08 PM) woooooo W00t. moderator! tahts great man. now can stop all those nonsensical one-line spammers!i moderator!!! weird man....can close open topics here. Cool in a way...wolol! |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 3 2009, 04:02 PM) that means u got fats on ur tummy thats all. yea, all part looks thin except the tummy do some cardio, eat clean. and do sit ups to build the abs... i doing crunch ONLY (cz duno what else i can do with my matt) as sit up is bad for our backQUOTE(dokidoki @ Mar 3 2009, 04:12 PM) bcos u r the bber topic guardian angel mah... erm, can i ask u doing the same set after resting? means lik if u do bicep curl, after 30sec do the same bicep curl again? cz i oways go to another part, den circle back >.< need to know what is the resting interval between each set?...last month during workout..i rest around 30seconds after each set...then my fren who got engaged PT say i should actually rest more than 1 min... i rest 30 seconds becos i want to burn fat...but then he say cannoy like that~ |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 3 2009, 04:08 PM) woooooo Congrats pizzaboy.. i moderator!!! weird man....can close open topics here. Cool in a way...wolol!  |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 3 2009, 04:08 PM) woooooo Congrats Bro ~!i moderator!!! weird man....can close open topics here. Cool in a way...wolol! QUOTE(dokidoki @ Mar 3 2009, 04:12 PM) bcos u r the bber topic guardian angel mah... It depends on the intensity of ur set. If u r carrying heavy (more than 80%).. Rest for 1 min....... As u are into fat burning, u aught to keep the heart pumping. To do so, rest between 30-40 seconds before ur next set. need to know what is the resting interval between each set?...last month during workout..i rest around 30seconds after each set...then my fren who got engaged PT say i should actually rest more than 1 min... i rest 30 seconds becos i want to burn fat...but then he say cannoy like that~ |
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how to gain forearm muscles?
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Woot, NEW theard, spam 1st
QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 3 2009, 04:08 PM) woooooo GOSH!! till now you only noticed that?i moderator!!! weird man....can close open topics here. Cool in a way...wolol! you have become Mod since yesterday night! |
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I believe in this....
"If you feel you need to rest a lil longer, then rest a lil longer. " If it's heavy, it's illogical that you plan to attack each set within 60 seconds. And if it's light, won't you feel stupid just sitting there for half a day, knowing that you can easily finish that 6 reps of bench presses? People generally rest a lil longer, because they're unsure about the body capacity to complete the next set, thus they take a little longer of a breather. In light especially conditioning workouts, you're supposed to push through the pain and collapsing heartbeat to increase your work capacity. The seconds, are merely a guideline. I won't be retarded enough to take a max deadlift attempt within 50 seconds of my last 97% 1RM set. |
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QUOTE(kickent @ Mar 3 2009, 05:10 PM) how to gain forearm muscles? By working out the forearms maybe??????????Click here! |
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pizzaman, congrats on the mod thing. you might wana start working straightaway and score brownie points by closing off all those masturbate, penis, similar thread threads. hahahahahahahah. 99% of the things in there are rubbish man.
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what is the internet without some cock?
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 3 2009, 05:51 PM) what is the internet without some cock? true but then again. they can practically open 10 similar thread just for the friggin sake of spamming and increasing their post count. so, friggin annoying. feel like whacking each and every one of them in the head. haaaaaahahahaha. *sigh*btw, check this out. Click here |
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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Mar 3 2009, 05:49 PM) pizzaman, congrats on the mod thing. you might wana start working straightaway and score brownie points by closing off all those masturbate, penis, similar thread threads. hahahahahahahah. 99% of the things in there are rubbish man. I've closed over 20 threads already. Some old reported ones.I can't believe the kinda bullshit they actually post around here that slips our nose. QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 3 2009, 05:51 PM) what is the internet without some cock? A math forum.http://www.youtube.com/user/troponinnutrition |
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Too much spam,recommended for closure!!!
You guys remember which supplement has 50G of protein per serving?? |
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whey or gainers?
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 06:22 PM) Too much spam,recommended for closure!!! 2 scoops of O.N Whey?You guys remember which supplement has 50G of protein per serving?? or the recommended servings of whatever weight gainer they sell out there. |
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Whey!(1 scoop and its not a gainer!)
Btw these triceps are awesome! Found it-ON pro complex! This post has been edited by pedro: Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 06:27 PM) Whey!(1 scoop and its not a gainer!) Any local pricing for those babies? My protein intake has been horrendous these few weeks. Btw these triceps are awesome! Found it-ON pro complex! |
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1 of my mates says its approx Rm360 for 12Lbs!
I asked him to find out for me! |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 06:54 PM) 1 of my mates says its approx Rm360 for 12Lbs! what brand is that...ONs is it?I asked him to find out for me! oh i got a question.. i havent been to the gym for almost 3months.. so this week onwards manage to get the motivation to start n push myself again.. how should i start it off.. push hard or do less weight that usual so i get the power back to lift.. yesterday felt so weak la.. today much better with my work out.. any tips.. |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 06:54 PM) 1 of my mates says its approx Rm360 for 12Lbs! do let us know. haha... i am interested if its really rm360 for 12lbs.I asked him to find out for me! its almost the same price as scivation. for the pounder. but its more than double the dosage of protein. 22g to 50g... i am sure to get it. wakakka... Added on March 3, 2009, 7:31 pmjust found out some info from it. its actually 60g of protein. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/pro.html http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/p...omplex-c-4.html This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 3 2009, 07:31 PM |
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Okay um, I didn't want to start a whole thread for this, so I'll just ask here. Does anyone know where I can purchase a pull up bar? Preferably one that would allow me to perform a variation of grips. And also, a rough price so I have an idea of how much I'll have to fork out. xD
Something like these I suppose.   |
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wow you all sure eat alot of protein. You will pee out your excess protein right. And protein cannot be stored right ? I'm at 17% bf and weighing 63kg. I need about 105g of protein a day only.
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60G is correct!
Less servings for more protein! Is peeing protein a problem for the kidneys??Last urine test i did the doc said i had a trace amount of protein! |
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 08:10 PM) 60G is correct! Do take note that the serving size of the on complex ..lolLess servings for more protein! Is peeing protein a problem for the kidneys??Last urine test i did the doc said i had a trace amount of protein! On complex Serving Size 2Rounded Scoops(74g)-60g Protein 0.8108g protein per Gram On standard Serving Size1Rounded Scoop(32g) -24g Protein 0.75g protein per Gram Scivation Serving Size: (28.40g)-22g Protein 0.7747g per Gram |
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Mar 3 2009, 08:55 PM
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You bust my bubble there!
Thanks you mentioned that before i bought it! Scivation still best bang for buck then? |
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ahh another beautiful question...let me let me...... how to gain forearm muscle...
xenograft...allo graft also can..then lifetime on immunosupresent drugs... there..u got ur answer..!! |
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Good on you Pizzaboy for being the moderator in Health & Fitness forum.
I have actually tried the ON Pro Complex and it tasted a lot better than the usual ON Whey 100% when mix with milk. However, the price is far too expensive to justify this product. Some photos of ON Pro Complex 2.3lbs Front shot:  Nutrition facts shot:  |
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Protein is protein is protein. Unless you get enough protein from real food, there is no point spending more money on designer protein shakes. I am just happy with the basic Scivation whey or ON gold.. the pro complex got more protein per serving coz the serving size is bigger.
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hahaha... i knew it... something must be wrong...
no wonder... wakakkaa... scivation whey really cant last a long time. and its price... its really worth it... Added on March 3, 2009, 11:55 pmmay i ask, does anyone use hydrocut or lipo6? which is more effective? i plan on trying them out. i want a faster result... haha This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 3 2009, 11:55 PM |
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Mar 3 2009, 04:12 PM) bcos u r the bber topic guardian angel mah... nah dont listen to that PT crap. 30 seconds is fine. for fat burning sometimes i do circuit. no rest between sets with different bodypart muscle for like 4-6 sets of different exercise. some ppl does HVT with 30 seconds rest only too. need to know what is the resting interval between each set?...last month during workout..i rest around 30seconds after each set...then my fren who got engaged PT say i should actually rest more than 1 min... i rest 30 seconds becos i want to burn fat...but then he say cannoy like that~ QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 3 2009, 04:18 PM) W00t. moderator! tahts great man. now can stop all those nonsensical one-line spammers! ALL HAIL PIZZABOY (CARBS)Added on March 4, 2009, 12:24 am QUOTE(registryeditor @ Mar 3 2009, 05:49 PM) pizzaman, congrats on the mod thing. you might wana start working straightaway and score brownie points by closing off all those masturbate, penis, similar thread threads. hahahahahahahah. 99% of the things in there are rubbish man. yo bugger! we dont need cocks around here. we need more vaginasThis post has been edited by jones007: Mar 4 2009, 12:24 AM |
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Hooray for the new thread!
Congrats to pizzaman on being a mod! Shit exams tomorrow, have been guiltily skipping gym for like 2 weeks so that I won't have narcoleptic attacks while studying. Will resume gym next week. In the meantime, I gained a shit load of bf%. My belly is starting to bloat up like a medicine ball. This post has been edited by Florian: Mar 4 2009, 01:00 AM |
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hey florian..join the boat...my belly is already like minature medicine ball. hahhah sucks and im still GYMMING!
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Gratz Pizzaboy, u deserve tat title.
By the way, protein powder is not a magical food, tats y it is a supplement, if u can get meat for 6 times a day, tats way better than taking those powder thou. Last time i heard from this PT saying that, muscle tech worth the price, since the quality of the protein is better. Wat i did i just give him a smile and walk away. Dude, before those big big hype comp process their protein powder by mixing all kinds of flower into their product, it is comming from the same place with the same ingredient. and worse, tat PT told me he gained 4kg in a week, and he said tat supplement is awesome and when i checked.....there is creatine in that powder.. =.= water weight and he dun even know wat is he taking and make such a big claim about it. Oh man..... |
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 3 2009, 10:16 PM) Protein is protein is protein. Unless you get enough protein from real food, there is no point spending more money on designer protein shakes. I am just happy with the basic Scivation whey or ON gold.. the pro complex got more protein per serving coz the serving size is bigger. BEST post ever by MYVI5949. EVER.QUOTE(jamis @ Mar 4 2009, 09:28 AM) Gratz Pizzaboy, u deserve tat title. Thanks guys for the wishes. I just hope I don't mess up.By the way, protein powder is not a magical food, tats y it is a supplement, if u can get meat for 6 times a day, tats way better than taking those powder thou. Last time i heard from this PT saying that, muscle tech worth the price, since the quality of the protein is better. Wat i did i just give him a smile and walk away. Dude, before those big big hype comp process their protein powder by mixing all kinds of flower into their product, it is comming from the same place with the same ingredient. and worse, tat PT told me he gained 4kg in a week, and he said tat supplement is awesome and when i checked.....there is creatine in that powder.. =.= water weight and he dun even know wat is he taking and make such a big claim about it. Oh man..... I really wonder if there's anything we can do bout such PT's. I mean, they're complete unqualified, promote the wrong exercises, form and even products, half the time they're bragging about waht they know instead of trying to share and educate others about the right methods. This is extremely unethical for one, and should be against industry practices. I think there should really be a guideline in the Malaysian fitness/gym scene about the do's and don't of being a personal trainer. And the biggest DON'T i feel that should be up there is; "Don't pretend you know everything, just because you're a personal trainer and you've read bb.com" |
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 4 2009, 10:25 AM) BEST post ever by MYVI5949. EVER. and 9 out of 10 PT will tell you, DONt Squat full and deep, you will hurt your kneeThanks guys for the wishes. I just hope I don't mess up. I really wonder if there's anything we can do bout such PT's. I mean, they're complete unqualified, promote the wrong exercises, form and even products, half the time they're bragging about waht they know instead of trying to share and educate others about the right methods. This is extremely unethical for one, and should be against industry practices. I think there should really be a guideline in the Malaysian fitness/gym scene about the do's and don't of being a personal trainer. And the biggest DON'T i feel that should be up there is; "Don't pretend you know everything, just because you're a personal trainer and you've read bb.com" |
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 3 2009, 03:15 PM) QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 3 2009, 04:02 PM) that means u got fats on ur tummy thats all. yea, all part looks thin except the tummy do some cardio, eat clean. and do sit ups to build the abs... i doing crunch ONLY (cz duno what else i can do with my matt) as sit up is bad for our backQUOTE(dokidoki @ Mar 3 2009, 04:12 PM) bcos u r the bber topic guardian angel mah... erm, can i ask u doing the same set after resting? means lik if u do bicep curl, after 30sec do the same bicep curl again? cz i oways go to another part, den circle back >.< need to know what is the resting interval between each set?...last month during workout..i rest around 30seconds after each set...then my fren who got engaged PT say i should actually rest more than 1 min... i rest 30 seconds becos i want to burn fat...but then he say cannoy like that~ This post has been edited by bagata: Mar 4 2009, 10:48 AM |
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[quote=bagata,Mar 4 2009, 10:47 AM]
yea, all part looks thin except the tummy i doing crunch ONLY (cz duno what else i can do with my matt) as sit up is bad for our backerm, can i ask u doing the same set after resting? means lik if u do bicep curl, after 30sec do the same bicep curl again? cz i oways go to another part, den circle back >.< [/quote] erm... got few question in 1st page >.< [/quote] Dude...you're underweight and you wanna cardio 4x a week and lift weights 3x a week. Nobody's going to answer your questions really. Anyway, next time use google. Here I found a simple description http://zenhabits.net/2007/10/how-to-build-...e-and-lose-fat/ |
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Mar 4 2009, 11:20 AM
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underweight, then pls bulk up.
no point getting an underweight body. u still look like sh*t. u wan a nice body, u got to have mass... |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 4 2009, 11:20 AM) underweight, then pls bulk up. Please give proper motivation advice than just telling them the fact that they already knew. They know they look like shit, they know that to get a nice body they have to gain mass and bulk up.no point getting an underweight body. u still look like sh*t. u wan a nice body, u got to have mass... At least point them the right direction.  The last thing we want are meatheads here. This post has been edited by Nikorasu: Mar 4 2009, 12:13 PM |
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Ok I'm new here. I do lift weights, but very very light. >w< Starting for below haha
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[quote=pizzaboy,Mar 4 2009, 10:58 AM]
erm... got few question in 1st page >.< [/quote] Dude...you're underweight and you wanna cardio 4x a week and lift weights 3x a week. Nobody's going to answer your questions really. Anyway, next time use google. Here I found a simple description http://zenhabits.net/2007/10/how-to-build-...e-and-lose-fat/ [/quote] [quote=JonYeap,Mar 4 2009, 11:20 AM] underweight, then pls bulk up. no point getting an underweight body. u still look like sh*t. u wan a nice body, u got to have mass... [/quote] oops, sorry my mistake. here is my height and weight Height - 173CM Weigh - 65kg not really those skinny skinny type i noe i needa bulk up if i am into building muscle, dun get me wrong, my unanswer question is this [quote=bagata,Mar 3 2009, 04:21 PM] yea, all part looks thin except the tummy i doing crunch ONLY (cz duno what else i can do with my matt) as sit up is bad for our backerm, can i ask u doing the same set after resting? means lik if u do bicep curl, after 30sec do the same bicep curl again? cz i oways go to another part, den circle back >.< [/quote] i dunno if it is correct if i do i round den repeat the reps, or jz focus on 1part, den go for another part after i finish the previous part  |
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 3 2009, 07:56 PM) Okay um, I didn't want to start a whole thread for this, so I'll just ask here. Does anyone know where I can purchase a pull up bar? Preferably one that would allow me to perform a variation of grips. And also, a rough price so I have an idea of how much I'll have to fork out. xD Anyone? =)Something like these I suppose. [img]http://totaltransformation.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/chin-up-bar.jpg[img] [img]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6524/p1010058has.jpg[img] Oh and, any views or comments on tabata routines? This post has been edited by -Dan: Mar 4 2009, 05:31 PM |
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Mar 4 2009, 05:49 PM
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anyone got lubang where to get Ergolean AMP?
i have been asking around in garage sales, but no stock till maybe a month time. oh ya, bagata, sorry if i sounded rude, but just hope u take it positively |
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Mar 4 2009, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 4 2009, 05:49 PM) anyone got lubang where to get Ergolean AMP? its ok, i noe i asked too much noob question i have been asking around in garage sales, but no stock till maybe a month time. oh ya, bagata, sorry if i sounded rude, but just hope u take it positively cheers |
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Mar 4 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 4 2009, 07:49 PM) its ok, i noe i asked too much noob question go to supplement2day.com la cheers cy8ex promoted the ergopharm products long time ago havent been in this thread for quite some time and our pro bb guy i.e. pizzaboy already a mod congrats man |
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Mar 4 2009, 09:06 PM
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pizzaboy aint a bodybuilder. lol he's a olympic weightlifter.
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Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM
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hey guys... need opinion on pricing... how muhc does usualy a dumbell cost? 1 stick withouth plates.. for 1 hand only.. not barbell
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Mar 4 2009, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM) hey guys... need opinion on pricing... how muhc does usualy a dumbell cost? 1 stick withouth plates.. for 1 hand only.. not barbell Can get those in pairs.. 1 pair for RM30-40 i cant remember..get those at Tesco. The plates u can buy seperately too..there is 10kg, 5kg, 1kg, 7.5kg plates..the barbell bar cost RM75. with threaded sides... If u want 1 dumbell bar only its hard to find.. can search secondhand. 1 dumbell with 10kg plates cost around Rm40 at Econsave. |
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Mar 4 2009, 09:45 PM
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Mar 4 2009, 09:56 PM
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Seen the guy's thread. I workout at home and buy my own equipment. My first choice would be Tesco. U see with dumbells and barbells there is no guarantee that the plates will fit each other..especially if u buy from different brands. I find that the Tesco weight plates can fit both its barbell and dumbell.
Believe me..You dont want to buy and return back the plates once u found it wont fit the dumbell bar/barbell. |
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Mar 4 2009, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 4 2009, 09:41 PM) Can get those in pairs.. 1 pair for RM30-40 i cant remember..get those at Tesco. The plates u can buy seperately too..there is 10kg, 5kg, 1kg, 7.5kg plates..the barbell bar cost RM75. hard to find meh..i see alot selling at carefour price around RM20+-If u want 1 dumbell bar only its hard to find.. can search secondhand. 1 dumbell with 10kg plates cost around Rm40 at Econsave. but buying individualy cost you a bomb just wait for promotion, i got mine 15kg adjustable at around RM60+ now it is collecting dust...lol |
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Mar 4 2009, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 4 2009, 10:00 PM) hard to find meh..i see alot selling at carefour price around RM20+- Can't find those at Carefour last time i check..well i am at JB maybe different stock. 15kg dumbell for that price is quite cheap actually. Why not just sell yours..let other people use lor don waste. i am sure there are people willing to buy at Garage sale.but buying individualy cost you a bomb just wait for promotion, i got mine 15kg adjustable at around RM60+ now it is collecting dust...lol |
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Mar 4 2009, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:15 PM) Can't find those at Carefour last time i check..well i am at JB maybe different stock. 15kg dumbell for that price is quite cheap actually. Why not just sell yours..let other people use lor don waste. i am sure there are people willing to buy at Garage sale. dont want, LYN ppl love to offer ridiculous price..lol rather keep it, can use it for magic 50 at home XD |
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Mar 5 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 4 2009, 09:45 PM) Kettler more expensive than Maxx brandChow |
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Mar 5 2009, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 5 2009, 12:16 AM) Kettler more expensive than Maxx brand but is it worth it at that price? and also is kettler compatible with common plates?Chow |
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Mar 5 2009, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Mar 4 2009, 08:19 PM) go to supplement2day.com la supplement2day.com doesnt sell ergopharm amp.cy8ex promoted the ergopharm products long time ago havent been in this thread for quite some time and our pro bb guy i.e. pizzaboy already a mod congrats man also cy6ex stock comes end of this month or early next month. i wonder should i wait a month, or just try on lipo6 1st? |
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Mar 5 2009, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 3 2009, 03:15 PM) yea i noe bout that, i mean ppl usually didnt do reps more than 10, or mayb 15... my point is, lift heavier, n less frequency? lik 3x5, 5reps is enuf? Concerning the heavy-weights low-rep workout (5x5), the main purpose is to activate "sleeping" muscle fibres which have not been given a reason to be active because of the lack of intensity. Yes, you may lift moderate weights for 15 reps but only the last few reps (perhaps the last 2 or 3), when you are finding it harder to lift, would actually contribute the most to the "waking-up" of the inactive muscle fibres. hm... my goal is loss fat 1st, and shape up my body whow btw... 2nd post So, now that it is clear that the greatest stress is caused by the last few reps, wouldn't it be good to have stress from the very beginning? Of course, you cannot have stress by using moderate weights. You would need to up your poundages to a certain degree that even the first two or three reps of your set would have already put your muscles under stress. When this is done for a few sets (5x5), additional muscle fibers would have a role to play because your muscle fibers are already fatigued. There is now a reason for your muscles to grow. |
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Mar 5 2009, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 5 2009, 12:29 AM) but is it worth it at that price? and also is kettler compatible with common plates? can help me answer ^and also.. how long does ur 'the pump' feeling last? as in the big swell that makes it look big... |
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Mar 5 2009, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 5 2009, 12:29 AM) but is it worth it at that price? and also is kettler compatible with common plates? worth or not? i dunno...its a piece of cast iron Maxx rubberized dumbbell only rm 89 afaik. from the looks of it, yeah compatible Chow |
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Mar 5 2009, 07:50 AM
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I own a kettler and the cheapo max dumbell. Almost the same..cant tell one apart from the other. But my Kettler comes 2.5kg and 1.25kg plates..not the regular 2kg,1kg plates on the max dumbell.
on a side note, both dumbell bars cannot fit the barbell weight plates..the hole is different size. This post has been edited by myvi5949: Mar 5 2009, 07:55 AM |
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Mar 5 2009, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Mar 5 2009, 01:54 AM) Concerning the heavy-weights low-rep workout (5x5), the main purpose is to activate "sleeping" muscle fibres which have not been given a reason to be active because of the lack of intensity. Yes, you may lift moderate weights for 15 reps but only the last few reps (perhaps the last 2 or 3), when you are finding it harder to lift, would actually contribute the most to the "waking-up" of the inactive muscle fibres. thanks a lot for the information So, now that it is clear that the greatest stress is caused by the last few reps, wouldn't it be good to have stress from the very beginning? Of course, you cannot have stress by using moderate weights. You would need to up your poundages to a certain degree that even the first two or three reps of your set would have already put your muscles under stress. When this is done for a few sets (5x5), additional muscle fibers would have a role to play because your muscle fibers are already fatigued. There is now a reason for your muscles to grow. so means i have to focus on 1part of muscle b4 i go to another part? (like 5x5 on biceps, den only go forearm ect.) had been doing in circle fashion (for example, biceps>triceps>forearm>abs>chest den back one round biceps>triceps>forearm>abs>chest) |
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Mar 5 2009, 09:50 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « thanks guys for the replies ^ appreciate it.. i got a prob now... i am working out back at home with a pair of dumbells... i only do curls, poewrlift, chin ups and fist push ups... there's a huge increase in the size of my chest however i notice that the nipple is starting to face apart, meaning to the sides... my trainer once told me that it is possible to control where i want it to be... so what kind of moves can i do to let it face more towards the centre again? |
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Mar 5 2009, 09:52 AM
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LOL, that is the most ridiculous aesthetic need for bodybuilding I've heard.
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Mar 5 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 5 2009, 09:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « thanks guys for the replies ^ appreciate it.. i got a prob now... i am working out back at home with a pair of dumbells... i only do curls, poewrlift, chin ups and fist push ups... there's a huge increase in the size of my chest however i notice that the nipple is starting to face apart, meaning to the sides... my trainer once told me that it is possible to control where i want it to be... so what kind of moves can i do to let it face more towards the centre again? |
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Mar 5 2009, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Nikorasu @ Mar 5 2009, 10:01 AM) Hahaha..haha.. really? How do I move it. I want to know too. I want it on my neck. rofl...haha... positioning ur nipple? well, maybe he meant by targeting ur muscle so it looks as if the nipple were somewhere there. different workout or angle target different specific parts. try to find out which works. |
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Mar 5 2009, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Mar 5 2009, 01:54 AM) Concerning the heavy-weights low-rep workout (5x5), the main purpose is to activate "sleeping" muscle fibres which have not been given a reason to be active because of the lack of intensity. Yes, you may lift moderate weights for 15 reps but only the last few reps (perhaps the last 2 or 3), when you are finding it harder to lift, would actually contribute the most to the "waking-up" of the inactive muscle fibres. 20reps squat then? XDSo, now that it is clear that the greatest stress is caused by the last few reps, wouldn't it be good to have stress from the very beginning? Of course, you cannot have stress by using moderate weights. You would need to up your poundages to a certain degree that even the first two or three reps of your set would have already put your muscles under stress. When this is done for a few sets (5x5), additional muscle fibers would have a role to play because your muscle fibers are already fatigued. There is now a reason for your muscles to grow. with heavy weight, 80% to 90% your 5RM your muscle will be shocked again |
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Mar 5 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 5 2009, 09:52 AM) LOL, that is the most ridiculous aesthetic need for bodybuilding I've heard. if it is too side ways it looks like man boobs... and i dont want it that way... because i dont go to gym i am limited to only a few moves i know.. probably i have been working out just that part and only that part enlargeI'd like to see some replies to that. bodybuilding is about sculpturing ur body to ur liking right? i remember arnold's interview... if u want a certain musccle/part of ur body to look bigger/nicer u work that particular part QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 5 2009, 10:03 AM) rofl... yes yes... my trainer did mention about it.. but he showed me with d machine... i wonder is there anyway else with dumbells? i dont go gym i work out from home... so it is a bit hard for mehaha... positioning ur nipple? well, maybe he meant by targeting ur muscle so it looks as if the nipple were somewhere there. different workout or angle target different specific parts. try to find out which works. |
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Mar 5 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 5 2009, 10:16 AM) 20reps squat then? XD I am quiet curious wif this routine..doing 20 reps of 80% 5RM would be tiring. Muscles would be exhausted, but muscles cannot get big from exhaustion.. it gets big from overloading. That is the basis of all those low rep heavy weight routine. I am sure that by doing 20 reps you'lll boost your testosterone and hgh levels.. but this could also be achieve by doing regular strength training program like madcow and max ot. Varying the routine is ok but i just don't get the 20 reps..other than the increase intensity.with heavy weight, 80% to 90% your 5RM your muscle will be shocked again |
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Mar 5 2009, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 5 2009, 10:31 AM) if it is too side ways it looks like man boobs... and i dont want it that way... because i dont go to gym i am limited to only a few moves i know.. probably i have been working out just that part and only that part enlarge well, do different angle of bench presses.bodybuilding is about sculpturing ur body to ur liking right? i remember arnold's interview... if u want a certain musccle/part of ur body to look bigger/nicer u work that particular part yes yes... my trainer did mention about it.. but he showed me with d machine... i wonder is there anyway else with dumbells? i dont go gym i work out from home... so it is a bit hard for me eh wait a min, u got a bench? if none, then its a bit hard. oh... u only got dumbell rite? then u got to do dumbell press different angles... shape ur chest the way u want it... not too sure bout it, but someone said something like different angle target different parts of the chest. |
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Mar 5 2009, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:38 AM) I am quiet curious wif this routine..doing 20 reps of 80% 5RM would be tiring. Muscles would be exhausted, but muscles cannot get big from exhaustion.. it gets big from overloading. That is the basis of all those low rep heavy weight routine. I am sure that by doing 20 reps you'lll boost your testosterone and hgh levels.. but this could also be achieve by doing regular strength training program like madcow and max ot. Varying the routine is ok but i just don't get the 20 reps..other than the increase intensity. found some linkhappy reading do check the link inside http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/20_Rep_Squats http://ezinearticles.com/?Get-Big-Muscle-F...quats&id=714241 QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 2 2009, 12:36 AM) saw this when surfing net...lol  http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...arting_strength T-Nation: Speaking of stupid shit, or rather, crazy shit, a section of your book Strong Enough?: Thoughts from Thirty Years of Barbell Training talked about the mental benefits of 20-rep squats. Can you go a bit more into that? Rippetoe: This isn't something I dreamed up. Strossen's written about it. Perry Rader's old programs from the '40s and '50s involved 20-rep squats. 20-rep squats are not a beginner's thing, because beginners can't possibly do them correctly. But for an intermediate lifter who wants to take six or eight weeks and grow some legs, 20-rep squats do a marvelous job. It does make you tough. But most people can't stand to do the damn thing. If you're doing it right, you won't go more than six or eight weeks. You just can't. At least I couldn't, and I'm kind of stupid about that kind of stuff. For an actual, no shit, set of 20 squats, you're going to pick a weight that you previously thought was your 10-rep max. And you're going to do 10 reps with it. Then you're going to do the 11th rep, and you're gonna breathe a little bit. And finally, you're gonna finish the 19th rep, and Jesus is gonna be talking to you about this time. Then you're gonna finish the 20th rep, and you'll somehow get it back in the rack, and then you collapse. You'll get tunnel vision and your hearing will change while you're trying to catch your breath. All kinds of weird peripheral central nervous system effects will take place. What you normally find is that you're laying on the ground, and you think, "Oh my God, I'm so glad that's over with." And then after about five minutes, the realization occurs, "I gotta do this again next week with another ten pounds. Oh shit." Most people can't deal with that for a long period of time. But it's terribly useful for short periods of time. |
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Mar 5 2009, 01:21 PM
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totaly wrong... everybdy got diffrn kind of metoblzma and body shape from genetic... u gotta work out diffrn style to see the result...u cant copy what people do...if i do 2 set bicep work out...is not mean same thing u can do...train yaslf...and see wich is workin out well...don copy simply...
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Mar 5 2009, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(bebeq @ Mar 5 2009, 01:21 PM) totaly wrong... everybdy got diffrn kind of metoblzma and body shape from genetic... u gotta work out diffrn style to see the result...u cant copy what people do...if i do 2 set bicep work out...is not mean same thing u can do...train yaslf...and see wich is workin out well...don copy simply... which post you refering? if you refered to mine,i didnt said that you will see the result 100%,many factor playing inside, if you do a good program without proper diet, you will still fail those program is proven well program with proper diet, they give alot usefull guideline and compound movement and most important thing is they give you the basic idea and basic knowledge! do you think your bicep will grow big with just doing biceps curls? for those simply copy, i dont see anything wrong with it, at least for novice like me. (not talking about 20 reps program, if you donno the squat form, it will push you to death )and most importantly you know what the hell you are doing for. and i am trying different program as well |
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Mar 5 2009, 06:27 PM
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Nobody knows where I might find a pull up bar? =/
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Mar 5 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 5 2009, 10:16 AM) 20reps squat then? XD A crash set for squats would be okay.with heavy weight, 80% to 90% your 5RM your muscle will be shocked again About 12 to 15 reps in a single crash set. 3 mini sets in a Crash Set, with 30 secs rest in between. |
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Mar 5 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 5 2009, 01:12 PM) found some link Thanks for that .. a good read. Though these routines are not for novices i think..easily prone to injury if u dont know your limits.happy reading do check the link inside http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/20_Rep_Squats http://ezinearticles.com/?Get-Big-Muscle-F...quats&id=714241 |
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peeps, i have been doin 20 rep squats for a month now.
but i feel that i am not feeling much from the squat like soreness or "that feeling u get on the next day afta u workout " . i am almost approaching carying my bw squat but i dont wanna get into that too fast coz i am still am begineer in squats. izit becoz of my weight or my form? |
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Mar 6 2009, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 5 2009, 11:48 AM) well, do different angle of bench presses. yea.. no bench,,, is it? diff angles for diff parts i know.. waht what r d angles? eh wait a min, u got a bench? if none, then its a bit hard. oh... u only got dumbell rite? then u got to do dumbell press different angles... shape ur chest the way u want it... not too sure bout it, but someone said something like different angle target different parts of the chest. QUOTE(bebeq @ Mar 5 2009, 01:21 PM) totaly wrong... everybdy got diffrn kind of metoblzma and body shape from genetic... u gotta work out diffrn style to see the result...u cant copy what people do...if i do 2 set bicep work out...is not mean same thing u can do...train yaslf...and see wich is workin out well...don copy simply... heh? like that 1 meh? i thought everybody's body part is d same.. just diff size |
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Mar 6 2009, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 6 2009, 01:16 PM) yea.. no bench,,, is it? diff angles for diff parts i know.. waht what r d angles? wat do u mean waht whare r d angles?heh? like that 1 meh? i thought everybody's body part is d same.. just diff size u see the bench got different degree of angles. thats what i am talking about. some work on ur top, mid, and lower chest areas. u can do variety of sections with the bench and dumbell. u dont have then, try think of another solution. =.= haha |
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QUOTE(anonymousover9000 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:13 PM) peeps, i have been doin 20 rep squats for a month now. you SHOULDN'T do 20reppers as a beginnerbut i feel that i am not feeling much from the squat like soreness or "that feeling u get on the next day afta u workout " . i am almost approaching carying my bw squat but i dont wanna get into that too fast coz i am still am begineer in squats. izit becoz of my weight or my form? |
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 5 2009, 11:48 AM) well, do different angle of bench presses. The shape of your chest is genetically-controlled.eh wait a min, u got a bench? if none, then its a bit hard. oh... u only got dumbell rite? then u got to do dumbell press different angles... shape ur chest the way u want it... not too sure bout it, but someone said something like different angle target different parts of the chest. One might long for squarish pecs but if your genes says no, then no it is. The same goes for abs. Some people might have ab separation while others have packs which are neatly and closely packed like Tom Venuto's. But, of course, it is possible to target different areas of the chest despite it being a pec as a whole. |
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Mar 6 2009, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(anonymousover9000 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:13 PM) peeps, i have been doin 20 rep squats for a month now. yap, 20 reps is not for novice, but i only have half year exp of lifting weight, i think i am under novice category as well, but i think it is allright as long as you know the proper form of squatbut i feel that i am not feeling much from the squat like soreness or "that feeling u get on the next day afta u workout " . i am almost approaching carying my bw squat but i dont wanna get into that too fast coz i am still am begineer in squats. izit becoz of my weight or my form? ya, exactly the same thing happened to me also. when 1st started, there is a slight soreness, but after awhile, the soreness has been decrease alot for following squat, but it cames again after i reach a quite heavy squat. i miss the soreness given when my 1st dumbbell squat... there is only 10kg dumbbell each side haha, sore for 1 whole week. now i think my body already get used to the workload now, all and i want to learn is clean, snatch bla bla movement, they looks interesting. have to do alot of study for that. try and error, try and error. This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Mar 6 2009, 07:55 PM |
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QUOTE(anonymousover9000 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:13 PM) peeps, i have been doin 20 rep squats for a month now. Soreness should not be a measurement of progress. The measuring tape and the mirror is.but i feel that i am not feeling much from the squat like soreness or "that feeling u get on the next day afta u workout " . i am almost approaching carying my bw squat but i dont wanna get into that too fast coz i am still am begineer in squats. izit becoz of my weight or my form? You just started.. doing 20 reps squats with 5RM weight is not a good idea. Focus on perfecting your form, intensity will come as u progress. |
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Mar 6 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 6 2009, 07:54 PM) yap, 20 reps is not for novice, but i only have half year exp of lifting weight, i think i am under novice category as well, but i think it is allright as long as you know the proper form of squat I can help you there. Really. ya, exactly the same thing happened to me also. when 1st started, there is a slight soreness, but after awhile, the soreness has been decrease alot for following squat, but it cames again after i reach a quite heavy squat. i miss the soreness given when my 1st dumbbell squat... there is only 10kg dumbbell each side haha, sore for 1 whole week. now i think my body already get used to the workload now, all and i want to learn is clean, snatch bla bla movement, they looks interesting. have to do alot of study for that. try and error, try and error.  |
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Mar 6 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 6 2009, 09:29 PM) I can help you there. Really. good good!! Power Clean! XD is to replace with row or hang clean 1st? http://www.myfit.ca/exercisedatabase/viewa...xercises&id=127 omg, this lifter is HOT!  This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Mar 6 2009, 09:59 PM |
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Mar 6 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 6 2009, 09:55 PM) good good!! You can't replace the row with the power clean. The mechanics are all different, as are the purposes. Power Clean! XD is to replace with row or hang clean 1st? http://www.myfit.ca/exercisedatabase/viewa...xercises&id=127 omg, this lifter is HOT! The video is generally quite good. Just the only thing I'd change is the girl's method of extension. She doesn't do a real triple extension, merely a jump. The triple extension comes from the shrug, hip/quad popping upwards and calves extending at the same moment. If you watch the video, she only shrugs powerfully but her hips and calves didn't extend as much as it should be. This is indicated by the backward motion of her legs. A real power clean should see your hips go upwards. MY cue is keeping my body taut and straight. The moment it reaches the highest point,(near my hips) I'll shrug like a sicko. That's my cue, which helps my hip go upwards. Some lifters do it differently...like they consciously imagine extending their hips and quads. Whatever works for youlah. |
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Mar 7 2009, 01:28 AM
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where is 4rings.. im really looking 4ward for his POV.. man, hes a legend.. and his body really do the talk
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Mar 7 2009, 01:47 AM
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is that coleman spelled wrong?
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Mar 7 2009, 01:51 AM
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hehe its rooney colemon.. frenchie, a legend in underground mma fights
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Mar 7 2009, 09:59 AM
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erm erm... 5RM means what? >.<
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Mar 7 2009, 10:48 AM
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RM stands for rep max
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Mar 7 2009, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(iceypain @ Mar 7 2009, 10:48 AM) RM stands for rep max 5 RM = 5 Rep maxmean the max weight you can lift for 5 time |
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Mar 7 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(iceypain @ Mar 7 2009, 10:48 AM) RM stands for rep max QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 7 2009, 10:51 AM) 5 RM = 5 Rep max thanks for the info mean the max weight you can lift for 5 time waaa 5RM is a lot >.< |
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Mar 7 2009, 09:12 PM
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guys.. why do u wear belt when u work out ?? i'm kinda confused..
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Mar 7 2009, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(dun_toi @ Mar 7 2009, 09:12 PM) guys.. why do u wear belt when u work out ?? i'm kinda confused.. generally for back support I suppose. But you really don't need it unless you have/had a severe back injury or you're lifting REALLY heavy weights.I believe in not relying too much on belts for support and let the back naturally adjust itself and grow stronger. But then again, everyone has their own approach to BBing, so yeah.. |
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Mar 8 2009, 11:24 AM
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5RM is it without pause ? Now I'm stalling my 5RM at around +/- 75kg. Got tips to increase this ?
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Mar 8 2009, 12:44 PM
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Depends really..when do u usually fail when u squat. When lowering or lifting the weights?
I dunno much either but i heard that if u have problem lifting the barbell up u need to work on the "explosiveness".. improve explosiveness using pylometric exercises. Another method is to determine which bodypart that fail u during the exercise and work on them. Is it the back? quads? Improve on the lagging bodypart and you'll be able to lift more. |
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Mar 8 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Mar 7 2009, 10:06 PM) generally for back support I suppose. But you really don't need it unless you have/had a severe back injury or you're lifting REALLY heavy weights. my back do get injured very easily.. I believe in not relying too much on belts for support and let the back naturally adjust itself and grow stronger. But then again, everyone has their own approach to BBing, so yeah.. mayb i should adjust my training schedule.. |
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Mar 8 2009, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(dun_toi @ Mar 8 2009, 02:59 PM) my back do get injured very easily.. Use small weight when u train ur back and gradually increase the weight when u feel better..mayb i should adjust my training schedule.. U should wear belt when doing deadlift..  |
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Mar 8 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(dun_toi @ Mar 8 2009, 02:59 PM) my back do get injured very easily.. Work on your weight progression slowly. Focus more on form and doing complete reps instead of aiming just to complete a set.mayb i should adjust my training schedule.. The body will adapt over time. Also, you could consider using a lifting belt for back support when doing squats, dead lifts and other back straining lifts. |
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Mar 8 2009, 09:03 PM
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i wanna ask
is there any medication for elbow injury? i hurt myself 6 years ago, till now once a while its still hurting if i stress my elbow. |
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Mar 8 2009, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 8 2009, 09:03 PM) i wanna ask U should consult a doctor..is there any medication for elbow injury? i hurt myself 6 years ago, till now once a while its still hurting if i stress my elbow. I think u should get an x-ray.. It might be ur joints or ligamen.. |
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Mar 9 2009, 12:22 AM
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hey guys, my whey is nearly depletes. need some suggestion of which type of whey should i get. is ON nitrocore-24 better or muscletech nitrotech hardcore better?
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Mar 9 2009, 12:52 AM
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ON 100% Whey cheap and good.
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Mar 9 2009, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(mamedai @ Mar 8 2009, 09:53 PM) U should consult a doctor.. my friend suspect its ligamen problem too...I think u should get an x-ray.. It might be ur joints or ligamen.. but i ignored it for so long... =.= |
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Mar 9 2009, 12:22 AM) hey guys, my whey is nearly depletes. need some suggestion of which type of whey should i get. is ON nitrocore-24 better or muscletech nitrotech hardcore better? Try scivation, IMO it works same as ON.Don't get muscletech's nitrotech, dump the extra money in creatine or double up your protein intake. |
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Mar 9 2009, 03:50 AM
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I've been sick for 5 days (Wednesday to Sunday). Today (Sunday) is the only day I've been feeling good enough to actually eat right although I've been forcefeeding myself to get my macros up.
The only upside to being sick is that my ectomorphic genes kick in overtime to get me cut like mad LOL. Jokes. Anyway, I'm planning to hit the gym tomorrow, but maybe it's too soon? I need to get the barbell itch out of the way. Can I just go in and do 5rep squats with a light weight of about 105 to 110 kg? (my 3RM is 125kg) Or should I rest it out till next week? Thanks. |
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Mar 9 2009, 04:03 AM
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its better rest till at least wednesday
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Mar 9 2009, 04:14 AM
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Rule of thumb for me, just workout if you think you are able to workout.
We can't determine whether you should/shouldn't workout as we do not have idea about the level of your current health/sickness, follow your instinct. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 12:52 AM) ON 100% Whey cheap and good. so i should get the ON nitrocore-24 or the normal GS100% whey?QUOTE(ExpZero @ Mar 9 2009, 02:36 AM) Try scivation, IMO it works same as ON. which scivation product? Xtend?Don't get muscletech's nitrotech, dump the extra money in creatine or double up your protein intake. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:42 AM
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just the normal one.
why so fancy, not like it's gonna do you magic. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:50 AM
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ahhhh......ok. currently im only taking whey. is there anymore supplemet i need to take? planning to get a multivite.
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Mar 9 2009, 08:59 AM
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multivit, fish oil are all good things to take even if you're not bb-ing.
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Mar 9 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 08:59 AM) multivit, fish oil are all good things to take even if you're not bb-ing. which brand is having the quality products of it?btw, need some advice on my diet. here is how it goes. morning: oats /w milo. 4-5 half boil eggs(sometime only eat.) 30-1hour rest or journey to the gym. 1hour++ finish gym post-workout: 1 1/2 scoop whey in large cup lunch: pasta salads(pasta,potatoes,beans,vegies) or braised chicken meat/vegies/tofu or anything that is available at my canteen snack: 1 scopp whey in large cup dinner: maggi rebus sardine telur mata / nasi paprik b4 bed: 1 scopp whey + milk |
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Mar 9 2009, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Mar 9 2009, 09:13 AM) which brand is having the quality products of it? Less shakes, more solid food.btw, need some advice on my diet. here is how it goes. morning: oats /w milo. 4-5 half boil eggs(sometime only eat.) 30-1hour rest or journey to the gym. 1hour++ finish gym post-workout: 1 1/2 scoop whey in large cup lunch: pasta salads(pasta,potatoes,beans,vegies) or braised chicken meat/vegies/tofu or anything that is available at my canteen snack: 1 scopp whey in large cup dinner: maggi rebus sardine telur mata / nasi paprik b4 bed: 1 scopp whey + milk |
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Mar 9 2009, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 03:50 AM) I've been sick for 5 days (Wednesday to Sunday). Today (Sunday) is the only day I've been feeling good enough to actually eat right although I've been forcefeeding myself to get my macros up. When I was sick bout 4/5 weeks ago, I skipped gym for 5 days because I wasn't feeling good. I was feeling weak and I knew that I would most probably fail to outdo my previous workout session. So, for me, there was no point in hitting the gym if I could not push my body to the limit. Might as well wait for total recovery and then work those muscles like I've never worked them before LOL The only upside to being sick is that my ectomorphic genes kick in overtime to get me cut like mad LOL. Jokes. Anyway, I'm planning to hit the gym tomorrow, but maybe it's too soon? I need to get the barbell itch out of the way. Can I just go in and do 5rep squats with a light weight of about 105 to 110 kg? (my 3RM is 125kg) Or should I rest it out till next week? Thanks. |
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Mar 9 2009, 01:23 PM
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Eh, sorry for the lack of updates..
I haven't printed those tshirts yet. will give you an update once I've ordered them hehe.I'm off to measure my chest size again. |
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Mar 9 2009, 01:26 PM
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when I have my selsema, I still workout. But I lower down the weight and do more reps so that I will sweat. I will not push myself during selsema. I will only stop gym when I have demam. At this time, the body needs the rest.
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Mar 9 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Bugsy @ Mar 9 2009, 10:43 AM) Less shakes, more solid food. wat kind of solid food u would suggest? im trying to hit protein ratio for my body weight. |
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Mar 9 2009, 02:17 PM
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just wanna rant
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Mar 9 2009, 03:08 PM
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there was this guy from iran that i met at the gym...he's bloody big size (not fat) and his arm is even bigger than my thigh...had a short conversation with him
Me: Kazeem, what do you eat for dinner after your gym session? Kazeem: Sometimes i eat bread, sometimes i don't eat anything for dinner Me: ..... Me: Do you take protein powder? Kazeem: Nah, i don't believe in those powder.. |
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QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 03:08 PM) there was this guy from iran that i met at the gym...he's bloody big size (not fat) and his arm is even bigger than my thigh...had a short conversation with him Genetics are a bitch aren't they?Me: Kazeem, what do you eat for dinner after your gym session? Kazeem: Sometimes i eat bread, sometimes i don't eat anything for dinner Me: ..... Me: Do you take protein powder? Kazeem: Nah, i don't believe in those powder.. IF and ONLY IF I'm not mistaken, Iranians have a genetical root tracing to Caucasians. I read this off some website about why the heck do Americans hate Iranians so badly, when they're actually sorta like ....related. Maybe that's why lah they so darned big sized. |
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Mar 9 2009, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 9 2009, 03:19 PM) Genetics are a b**** aren't they? i heard Arabs and Blacks have quite same genetic make up (apart from skin color). thats why they said Arabs n Blacks are brothers IF and ONLY IF I'm not mistaken, Iranians have a genetical root tracing to Caucasians. I read this off some website about why the heck do Americans hate Iranians so badly, when they're actually sorta like ....related. Maybe that's why lah they so darned big sized. Chow This post has been edited by bata: Mar 9 2009, 03:27 PM |
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Mar 9 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 9 2009, 03:19 PM) Genetics are a b**** aren't they? Probably.. IF and ONLY IF I'm not mistaken, Iranians have a genetical root tracing to Caucasians. I read this off some website about why the heck do Americans hate Iranians so badly, when they're actually sorta like ....related. Maybe that's why lah they so darned big sized. Mr. Kazeem also told me "I would advice you to take good breakfast and if possible rice for lunch, but for dinner take something light...something other than ricee"I got shocked when i saw the weight he was carrying when doing bench press...LOL |
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Mar 9 2009, 03:40 PM
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genetics...!!!
damn... why we asian have genetically smaller. hahaha... everything also smaller... kakakka... but got to just admire their genetic. we train like mad also cant reach like that... wats his bench press by the way? |
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Mar 9 2009, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 03:40 PM) genetics...!!! i can't really remember..something like 10kg+10kg+5kg+5kg.... on one side...i'll take a peek when i see him at the gym againdamn... why we asian have genetically smaller. hahaha... everything also smaller... kakakka... but got to just admire their genetic. we train like mad also cant reach like that... wats his bench press by the way? |
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Mar 9 2009, 04:00 PM
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huh? 30kg per side? =.=
thats not a lot bro... thats just normal. i started gym less than a month and i am carrying 25kg on one side... i think most of us here can carry more than 30kg per side. |
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Mar 9 2009, 04:34 PM
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izit ? maybe those 10kilos are 20kilos...will check when i see him again
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Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM
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erk....30 kg per side + bar is about 70 kgs.... its not that little wei...im doing 50 kgs....
the problem is i think i can handle more weight chest wise.... but my prob is my wrist.. |
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Mar 9 2009, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 04:34 PM) izit ? maybe those 10kilos are 20kilos...will check when i see him again Lol,thats also not a lot!Hey guys,opinions on Elbows-flared pushdown for triceps? Nobody seems to do this here! |
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Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 04:00 PM) huh? 30kg per side? =.= If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB.thats not a lot bro... thats just normal. i started gym less than a month and i am carrying 25kg on one side... i think most of us here can carry more than 30kg per side. And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post. I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline. QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM) erk....30 kg per side + bar is about 70 kgs.... its not that little wei...im doing 50 kgs.... Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit.the problem is i think i can handle more weight chest wise.... but my prob is my wrist.. This post has been edited by Florian: Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM |
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Mar 9 2009, 05:59 PM
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Mar 9 2009, 06:20 PM
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yea.. ..benches are dangerous also....if ur forearm grip not up to par...hahaha......lets not go there....
im doing a pretty safe set... i can do 10x3 bench press for 5-kgs and then to dumbell flys....so i think i definitely can do more... saying that...compared to my bod....my chest is toooo small!! |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:22 PM
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me 5kg on each side already shaking....*blush*
if i use those station gyms and do workout for chest ...will it be as good as bench press?? This post has been edited by jackyjin: Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM) If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB. hmmm... i started off struggling at 10kg per side.And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post. I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline. Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit. but as days goes by, i begin to adept. i guess i adepted with the weight pretty fast. now i am already bench pressing for 2 weeks or so. 20kg without support on each side (bar is 18kg) with slight support then i can go for 25kg. i am doing MAX-OT which concentrate on heavy weight 6 reps maximum. by the way, i am 85kg(big guy). so i think the bigger u r, the more weight u could possibly get adapted to faster... (generally) i wouldnt expect a 50kg guy to do the same progress as me... it would kill him. but i guess i will try 30kg per side by end of the month. Added on March 9, 2009, 6:26 pm QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 06:22 PM) me 5kg on each side already shaking....*blush* smith machine?if i use those station gyms and do workout for chest ...will it be as good as bench press?? its not as good as bench press coz bench press u need stability in both hands. while on the machine, u can cheat with another hand pushing more. This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:28 PM
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Your progress is fast,it took me 9 months to bench 55kgs per side!
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Mar 9 2009, 06:29 PM
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aih...guys dun worry about how u are doing in relative to others...
5kg per side or 50kg per side bench...... keep ur form right... try to push ur limits with regard to urself not what others are doing.... eat right.....train hard....im sure progress will follow... |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM) hmmm... i started off struggling at 10kg per side. hmm, yea but i think it's safer for beginners like me but as days goes by, i begin to adept. i guess i adepted with the weight pretty fast. now i am already bench pressing for 2 weeks or so. 20kg without support on each side (bar is 18kg) with slight support then i can go for 25kg. i am doing MAX-OT which concentrate on heavy weight 6 reps maximum. by the way, i am 85kg(big guy). so i think the bigger u r, the more weight u could possibly get adapted to faster... (generally) i wouldnt expect a 50kg guy to do the same progress as me... it would kill him. but i guess i will try 30kg per side by end of the month. Added on March 9, 2009, 6:26 pm smith machine? its not as good as bench press coz bench press u need stability in both hands. while on the machine, u can cheat with another hand pushing more. there was once i doing bench press, i kinda lost strength and the bar came down on my chest ..luckily there was another guy in the gym and he helped me to carry it away...*embarassing* |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 9 2009, 06:28 PM) Your progress is fast,it took me 9 months to bench 55kgs per side! 55kg per side... =.=i dont think i will ever think of reaching that... muahhaha... even if it takes a year. =.= i might stop at 40kg max i guess... thats coz i dont want to torture my ligamen in my elbow. been damaged for 6 years already. Added on March 9, 2009, 6:35 pm QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 06:30 PM) hmm, yea but i think it's safer for beginners like me always get someone to support if u know u r doing ur limit weight. there was once i doing bench press, i kinda lost strength and the bar came down on my chest ..luckily there was another guy in the gym and he helped me to carry it away...*embarassing* as for now, i am safe with 60kg in total. but once i reach 70kg weight, i get a person to support. This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 9 2009, 06:35 PM |
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QUOTE(Florian @ Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM) If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB. Beginner here. I can only bench 10kg on each side and the pole should be around 10kg. @@"And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post. I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline. Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit. Guess it takes time huh. |
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Mar 9 2009, 06:46 PM
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It does and patience is a must!
Olympic bar is 18Kgs btw! |
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Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM
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Mind if i ask whether one's initial weight (untrained, beginner level) have any effect on strength levels? I was sort of obese months ago and could at least struggle 30kg each side, but when i went on a weight losing phase (im 'normal' now) im actually shivering just trying to push 15...(each side) Its really very discouraging
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Mar 9 2009, 07:13 PM
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How did you lose the weight??
Might be due to muscle loss! |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(roxxor89 @ Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM) Mind if i ask whether one's initial weight (untrained, beginner level) have any effect on strength levels? I was sort of obese months ago and could at least struggle 30kg each side, but when i went on a weight losing phase (im 'normal' now) im actually shivering just trying to push 15...(each side) Its really very discouraging i believe weight holds a vital role also.if lets say 2 person were to be a beginner in bench press; A: 90kg B: 60kg Who do u think would be able to lift heavier weights? I guess weight does matter in someway or another. Just my 2 cent... Could be untrue. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:16 PM
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It does not matter how much weight u train with. Whats important is your level of intensity.
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Mar 9 2009, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 08:00 PM) i believe weight holds a vital role also. Erm, not quite true. Not to brag but when me and my friend first started, I'm 67 and he's 80, I benched 20 each side but he could managed 15. He's bigger as well.if lets say 2 person were to be a beginner in bench press; A: 90kg B: 60kg Who do u think would be able to lift heavier weights? I guess weight does matter in someway or another. Just my 2 cent... Could be untrue. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:28 PM
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hahah
tis is funny of course if u compare a untrained 60kg and a 85kg guy.. the 85 kg guy should be stronger.... but if u compare an athletic 60kg guy and a slob of 85kg.... needless to say.. 20kgs a side is not bad... i seem to have problem doing 30reps of 50kgs... (3x10).... maybe i should increase weight and decrease rep..thats what i will do....but use the safety barbells......ill be damned if im stupid enough to allow the 70+ kg bar to fall on my chest.1!! |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:30 PM
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This is the Bodybuilding thread rite?
Unless your goal is to be a weightlifter or compete in a strongman competition, it doesnt matter how much weight u can lift. Whats important is that u are able to stimulate muscle growth. This is done by lifting the heavy to overload the muscles. Though the catalyst for growth is strength, strength alone should not be a major concern. As long as you're progressively achieving good results in body aesthetics and bodymass, you're in the right path. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:37 PM
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yeah, imo weights aren't really important.. for bb'ing my take on it is just push yourself to the limit and fight pain, exhaustion and just correct my form so im targeting the right muscle groups..
if you use your mind to conquer the pain, the gains will come! |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:48 PM
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yes.
u got to carry the weight according to ur ability. if u feel the intensity with 10kg, then by all means, do so... if u dont feel the intensity with it anymore, then increase. I have read from MAX OT article which says, if u wanna stimulate muscle growth, u got to push it hard too. Thats why i am trying 4-6 reps with intense weight. Any more than 10 reps, i believe its just more to endurance. =.= Haha... Everyone have their opinion. =.= |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 9 2009, 08:37 PM) yeah, imo weights aren't really important.. for bb'ing my take on it is just push yourself to the limit and fight pain, exhaustion and just correct my form so im targeting the right muscle groups.. Well when muscle fatigue reaches its peak, even Professor Xavier with all his mind-power wouldn't be able to move that barbell an inch higher if you use your mind to conquer the pain, the gains will come! The bar just stays there (bench press) or drops down. It can never go higher even though in my mind, I'm psycho-ing myself to complete that half a rep. But of course, going into the gym with confidence that you can lift a certain amount of weight would be helpful. |
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Mar 9 2009, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 9 2009, 06:46 PM) It does and patience is a must! I'm not sure whether the one in Uni is an olympic bar or not. But I know it's damn thick and heavier than the usual straight bar. @@Olympic bar is 18Kgs btw! Or at least that's what the dudes tell me there.. but I don't think I can trust them XD |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 9 2009, 03:19 PM) Genetics are a b**** aren't they? The genetic trace goes back to Genghis Khan. If I could find my genetics lecture, they did an analysis on a star cluster of Y-chromosome, the chromosome passed down from father to son. This star-cluster was traced back to Genghis KhanIF and ONLY IF I'm not mistaken, Iranians have a genetical root tracing to Caucasians. I read this off some website about why the heck do Americans hate Iranians so badly, when they're actually sorta like ....related. Maybe that's why lah they so darned big sized. Genghis Khan rampaged through the middle east effectively raping every woman in his way. So anyone from the east-middle east could have Genghis Khan ancestry. Interesting stuff eh?  |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Mar 9 2009, 08:59 PM) I'm not sure whether the one in Uni is an olympic bar or not. But I know it's damn thick and heavier than the usual straight bar. @@ the one in mmu melaka uni, is 18kg.Or at least that's what the dudes tell me there.. but I don't think I can trust them XD where r u studying? |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 09:17 PM) the one in mmu melaka uni, is 18kg. Nottingham University.where r u studying? |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 09:11 PM) The genetic trace goes back to Genghis Khan. If I could find my genetics lecture, they did an analysis on a star cluster of Y-chromosome, the chromosome passed down from father to son. This star-cluster was traced back to Genghis Khan Genghis Khan?Genghis Khan rampaged through the middle east effectively raping every woman in his way. So anyone from the east-middle east could have Genghis Khan ancestry. Interesting stuff eh? I've read bout him on my school's notice board a few years back. They were praising him for this and that. LOL. All along I thought he was a hero. |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Mar 9 2009, 09:25 PM) Genghis Khan? he is one of the great conqueror. =.=I've read bout him on my school's notice board a few years back. They were praising him for this and that. LOL. All along I thought he was a hero. "Ganas". Thats a word i could describe him. He is feared by everyone that time. |
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Mar 9 2009, 09:48 PM
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haha.. i wonder how he does it..
but if we were to do some math, lets say he had a virility of 40 years and assuming everyday he had some 'pleasure'.. thats 14600 pleasures he had.. most women are only fertile about 5 days a month.. so means 5/30 = 16.6% chance the women will get a baby.. so if every woman gave birth.. he'd get 2400 children.. back in the days, mortality rate of children was high, about 20-30% ? so in total only 1700 children survived if he shagged everyday in the middle east for 40 years and assuming that every women will conceive on her fertile day (which also there is a chance she will not).. so that makes it kinda unlikely got a huge population with genghis khans genes ? lol.. This post has been edited by zorange: Mar 9 2009, 09:51 PM |
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Mar 9 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 9 2009, 09:48 PM) haha.. i wonder how he does it.. but if we were to do some math, lets say he had a virility of 40 years and assuming everyday he had some 'pleasure'.. thats 14600 pleasures he had.. most women are only fertile about 5 days a month.. so means 5/30 = 16.6% chance the women will get a baby.. so if every woman gave birth.. he'd get 2400 children.. back in the days, mortality rate of children was high, about 20-30% ? so in total only 1700 children survived if he shagged everyday in the middle east for 40 years and assuming that every women will conceive on her fertile day (which also there is a chance she will not).. so that makes it kinda unlikely got a huge population with genghis khans genes ? lol.. Wow that's highly informative Anyways, anyone ever hear ringing sound at the ears when you're lifting heavy? Sometimes i get this ringing on the last rep or lifting near my max. Its dont happen all the time, just sometimes.  |
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Mar 9 2009, 11:23 PM
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no, but when i do 1RM, especially deads, i thought my veins in my head and neck will pop open, and usually my face will turn red. haha
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Mar 10 2009, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 09:11 PM) The genetic trace goes back to Genghis Khan. If I could find my genetics lecture, they did an analysis on a star cluster of Y-chromosome, the chromosome passed down from father to son. This star-cluster was traced back to Genghis Khan aaahhhhhhh. this explains my 24/7 horniness! good stuff mofonyx hahahahahahah.Genghis Khan rampaged through the middle east effectively raping every woman in his way. So anyone from the east-middle east could have Genghis Khan ancestry. Interesting stuff eh? |
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Mar 10 2009, 12:23 AM
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hmmm..guys...how do u find ur 1 rep max.......... sorry ya...noob question again...... its a bit interesting.....how do u know ur 1 rep max is not ur 2 RM or your 6RM is actually ur 7RM?...different day ur RM can change what...
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Mar 10 2009, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Mar 9 2009, 09:11 PM) The genetic trace goes back to Genghis Khan. If I could find my genetics lecture, they did an analysis on a star cluster of Y-chromosome, the chromosome passed down from father to son. This star-cluster was traced back to Genghis Khan WOAH!Genghis Khan rampaged through the middle east effectively raping every woman in his way. So anyone from the east-middle east could have Genghis Khan ancestry. Interesting stuff eh? Cool! Can you trace the roots of Peranakan people in Malaysia!! Btw, Genghis Khan is a hero. To the Mongolians. Not to half the other population of the world where he conquered. If I remember correctly when I read my encyclopedia, he wanted to rule the world but died before he could. In the end, he still managed the biggest areas ever in history. Back to topic though (Sometimes, this Mod title forces me to behave.....drat) |
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Mar 10 2009, 12:54 AM
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guys i wanna ask..
i just bought dymatize elite whey.. the flavor is pina colada. from what i search on the internet they says that pina colada = pineapple with rum. do u think it contains alcohol? im a muslim. i feel guilty. hahaha |
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Mar 10 2009, 01:03 AM
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wow, got such flavour
haha, i dun think it contains alcohol as it is bad for sports as it is a diuretic (urine alot) and also its empty calories..but just to make sure, read the product label.. they have to say if its there.. well, at least u get to taste how pina colada taste like without breaking any rules rite.. |
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Mar 10 2009, 01:18 AM
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thats what i tot too.
if it contains alcohol. then it should not be advisable for sports nutrition supplement rite. haha well it is safe then. haha |
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Mar 10 2009, 01:37 AM
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Full article link on Genghis Khan Y-chromosome 'star cluster'
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1180246 For those too lazy to read, this is the essence of the article. Star-cluster frequencies in populations represented by green sectors. 
For those who are keen on the info, reading the paper should be quite interesting. It's not very long. If you notice disparities between what little I have said and the paper, pardon my ignorance because I'm just retracing memories from 6 months ago. Genetics is one heck of a course. I'm having fun here but I can't wait to get back to medschool. |
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Mar 10 2009, 02:16 AM
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i had heck loads of genetics subjects too back in uni.. its fun when it comes to the quirks of human-kind and where and how we evolved.. but its another thing when we had to keep breeding drosophillia flies just to see different colourations in their phenotypes.. and thanks for that piece of info!
maybe u study further see whether got any enhancers for bb'ing This post has been edited by zorange: Mar 10 2009, 02:17 AM |
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Mar 10 2009, 02:24 AM
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Drosophilla research is big in UCL. It's the main model for Prof. David Gems for the study of Biogerontology (Biology of Ageing).
So yeah, I can relate. We have flies coming into our yeast lab from time to time. Urghh. Enhancers for bb'ing? Steroids. |
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Mar 10 2009, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(itypewithkeyboard @ Mar 10 2009, 01:18 AM) thats what i tot too. I don't think they put any actual alcohol in it, i'm sure they're not dumb enough to risk the many lawsuits over drunken weightlifting injuries. if it contains alcohol. then it should not be advisable for sports nutrition supplement rite. haha well it is safe then. haha |
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Mar 10 2009, 03:11 AM
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hahaha..what is all this genghis khan and population and everything haha..
anyways i know some ppl who have a khan family name.. mayb same family line?? haha and they are huge hahaa |
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Mar 10 2009, 10:12 AM
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Eh, what i read of mongols is that they are short stocky but heavy set. Some europeans describe them as comical esp when they ride on their small but tough horses of the steppes. Anyhow due to their prowess they are so feared when sighted, being equated to the plague itself. I think its the tough environment that breeds tough ppl, eg infamous vikings & celts came from the cold areas as well.
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Mar 10 2009, 12:25 PM
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erm... how heavy is a barbell bar? for dumbell bar its 1.75kg rite? >.<
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Mar 10 2009, 12:29 PM
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my dumbbell bar is 1.5KG not sure if its a standard weight
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Mar 10 2009, 01:13 PM
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Oly barbell is 20kg.
Previous few post I read also damn lawak. 5kg per side lah, 15kg per side lah, 40kg per side lah... saya pun terkonfius. =P Why not just use the total weight, barbell (20kg) + both sides? |
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Mar 10 2009, 02:25 PM
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hey anyone noe whr can buy dumbbells set which can adjustable from 10lbs to 30lbs or more??
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=874423 20lbs for rm160/pair...fair price? |
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Mar 10 2009, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(celion @ Mar 10 2009, 02:25 PM) hey anyone noe whr can buy dumbbells set which can adjustable from 10lbs to 30lbs or more?? why dun u ask pizzaboy about this.http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=874423 20lbs for rm160/pair...fair price? |
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Mar 10 2009, 03:28 PM
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30lbs thats around 15kg.. i thought i saw one selling at econsave for RM79 per one piece. So.. its not cheap its fair price..
Can buy custom weights at Tesco also. Quite cheap. |
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Mar 11 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 10 2009, 03:28 PM) 30lbs thats around 15kg.. i thought i saw one selling at econsave for RM79 per one piece. So.. its not cheap its fair price.. where to get a bar that suits custom weights at tesco??Can buy custom weights at Tesco also. Quite cheap. fitness concept got a 10lb adjustable dummbells set but i dunno wad is the max. weight it can handle |
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Mar 11 2009, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(celion @ Mar 11 2009, 02:04 PM) where to get a bar that suits custom weights at tesco?? Other than plates 1kg, 5kg, 10kg.. tesco sells dumbell bar, ez bar.. u can get the barbell from carrefour at RM75.fitness concept got a 10lb adjustable dummbells set but i dunno wad is the max. weight it can handle |
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Mar 11 2009, 02:44 PM
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hi there guys..just want some advice..
my w/out time is not consistence n its due to my shift work...so i tend to follow whicheva time tat is convinience.. so the way i separate my w/out routine is... day 1- 20-30mins treadmill cardio/abs training/chest and tricep day 2- 20-30mins treadmill cardio/abs training/legs and shoulders day 3- 20-30mins treadmill cardio/abs training/back and biceps wat i eat now is : morning- oats 3 in 1 2 sachets only lunch- mixed rice-rice half/chicken alot n 1 type of vege dinner- similar to lunch but usualy rice replace with nan bread or capati/tosai i take my meal day off on weekends as i go more on carbs rather than weekdays where i try my best to consume protein alot...so pls guys..do advice me on how should i 'repair' my meals..i know i shud be eatin 5- 6 times a day but m afraid i'd put on weight...i just went shoppin n and stocked a few hl milk,tuna,chicken slice meat,oats n cheese so hope u guys could advice me to based on my stocks and m consumin lipo 6 now my goal is to have a lean body with good muscle definition (like a footballer) my weight is around 77 to 79 kg... height is around 172-174cm m actually lookin at hittin a weight at 70-73kg so any advice for a beginner n i dunno my fb level cause i'm havin trouble findin a place wic offers me de service of measurin it... n i do my cardio b4 w/out on treadmill for 20-30mins on de speed of 10.0..n my ques is wic is betta..cardio b4 or after w/out is betta?? i want n currently is emphasising on gettin a lean body n not bulking up... advice me based on tat guys... thanks in advance.. |
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Mar 11 2009, 02:51 PM
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Replace the rice/capati with complex carbs.. take more healthy fats like peanut butter and virgin olive oil.
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Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM
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Many people say, breakfast is important meal of the day. Put in more protein and good fat in breakfast. Oat is mostly carb.
IF u just eat 3 times a day. Don't you feel hungry in between ? You don't get fat from eating 5-7 times a day. You get fat if overeating. 5 meals a day also help to increase your metabolism. As for weekend, i think you still need to take the protein. To repair the muscle. BTW chapati is made of what ? As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends. This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Mar 11 2009, 04:46 PM |
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Mar 11 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) Many people say, breakfast is important meal of the day. Put in more protein and good fat in breakfast. Oat is mostly carb. err... i usually skip breakfast (as i am a student) i noe it is bad for my body, so i wana ask if i jz get the whey protein as breakfast, izzit ok?and 1 thing is that i realise i slp lots more nowadays, izzit becaused the exhaustion of my muscle? thanks in advance |
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Mar 11 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends. for me id say the opposite is true, weight train half of your normal routine, then go cardio.. this is because when you weight train you use the glycogen / sugars and carbs (first line of energy source) for your body.. after you used it up, then you go for cardio, the fat burning will start straight away!of course you have to make sure u have energy for cardio, thats why i recommend half of your workout routine.. i mightve gotten my facts wrong so correct me if im wrong yeh.. |
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Mar 11 2009, 05:43 PM
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no cardio on workout daysss... :S
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Mar 11 2009, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 10 2009, 12:25 PM) erm... how heavy is a barbell bar? for dumbell bar its 1.75kg rite? >.< i saw dumbell with 2.25kg beforeQUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 10 2009, 01:13 PM) Oly barbell is 20kg. got 2 types of barbell... i think one is 20 one is lighterPrevious few post I read also damn lawak. 5kg per side lah, 15kg per side lah, 40kg per side lah... saya pun terkonfius. =P Why not just use the total weight, barbell (20kg) + both sides? |
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Mar 11 2009, 06:04 PM
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A standard oly bar should be 20kgs!
Not less than that! |
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Mar 11 2009, 06:37 PM
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You mean the shorter bar? (I can't remember if it's 15 or 18kg)
That's not an oly barbell, that's a retard-bar. Short and retarded... like me! X^D |
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Mar 11 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) Many people say, breakfast is important meal of the day. Put in more protein and good fat in breakfast. Oat is mostly carb. mostly i a agree.. but cardio should not be done immediately after of prior weight training. Cardio would drain your energy..after all, it is called weight training.. u should be able to lift the weight with 100% effort. So for me at least cardio is on off training days.IF u just eat 3 times a day. Don't you feel hungry in between ? You don't get fat from eating 5-7 times a day. You get fat if overeating. 5 meals a day also help to increase your metabolism. As for weekend, i think you still need to take the protein. To repair the muscle. BTW chapati is made of what ? As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends. |
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Mar 11 2009, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 11 2009, 05:20 PM) for me id say the opposite is true, weight train half of your normal routine, then go cardio.. this is because when you weight train you use the glycogen / sugars and carbs (first line of energy source) for your body.. after you used it up, then you go for cardio, the fat burning will start straight away! so means go for cardio after lifting burns more fat? given i still can run after that of course you have to make sure u have energy for cardio, thats why i recommend half of your workout routine.. i mightve gotten my facts wrong so correct me if im wrong yeh.. QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 11 2009, 05:44 PM) i saw dumbell with 2.25kg before thanks dude got 2 types of barbell... i think one is 20 one is lighter |
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Mar 11 2009, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 11 2009, 06:38 PM) mostly i a agree.. but cardio should not be done immediately after of prior weight training. Cardio would drain your energy..after all, it is called weight training.. u should be able to lift the weight with 100% effort. So for me at least cardio is on off training days. I agree with you. I do my cardio on the days I don't weight-train. |
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Mar 11 2009, 07:46 PM
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if u weight lifting for the day, go full blast on that.
if u cardio, then go full blast. i believe the result will be better this way. but u got to rest well too. good diet and good rest is another key to success. =.= |
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If you plan to do your cardio after workout, it should be slow cardio.
There is no need to perform the explosive HIIT because the glycogen supply in your muscles are already running low so any cardio thereafter would use mostly your fat storage as an energy source. |
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Mar 11 2009, 08:26 PM
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I always do my 30 mins cardio after weights.
Before weights, 10 mins cardio as warm up. |
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Mar 11 2009, 08:42 PM
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As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends. [/quote] wat is IMO..wat does it mean |
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Mar 11 2009, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM) As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends. |
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Mar 11 2009, 08:49 PM
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help help
wat is atp or imo thingey |
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Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(rascalz @ Mar 11 2009, 08:49 PM) help help It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work.wat is atp or imo thingey |
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Mar 11 2009, 09:29 PM
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darklight missed out the more important explanation
IMO = in my opinion. |
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Mar 11 2009, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM) It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work. Good one la dude =)There is always google as well. |
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Mar 11 2009, 11:42 PM
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atp - adenosine triphosphate is used by muscles to generate movement/lift things etc. basically once atp is used, it is regenerated by aerobically (breathing in oxygen) and anaerobically (not enuff o2 in your body and also can be enhanced by creatine)..
thats why when bb'ers take creatine it gives them more energy for bursts of power.. bb'ing mostly uses anaerobic energy as it is bursts of heavies rather than say marathon which needs long sustained energy.. thats why marathon runners have a HUGE lung capacity, to take up more oxygen.. but as darklight said, it is our mana pool to cast magical spells on enemies such as barbells and dumbbells This post has been edited by zorange: Mar 11 2009, 11:43 PM |
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Mar 12 2009, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM) It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work. Thats some entertaining way of explaining bb-ing terms. lol |
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Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM
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Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei!
I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them. ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy. Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D |
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Mar 12 2009, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM) Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei! 200 for member?I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them. ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy. Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D i guess a lot of member will get it then coz buying from lyn is also rm200 with delivery. =.= haha... but again, lets see how it goes. =.= |
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Mar 12 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM) Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei! its competitions that make them realizeI find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them. ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy. Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D Chow |
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Mar 12 2009, 06:31 PM
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Hey,anyone into plate pinches here??
Started yesterday and its damn nice! |
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Mar 12 2009, 09:00 PM
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Plate pinches are good, it works the forearm and grip work. try manila rope pullups. that is a killer .
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Mar 12 2009, 09:05 PM
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Mar 13 2009, 09:53 AM
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Ya, must pick a day that I can go early and then don't have to rush to go home and bathe and crap.
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Mar 13 2009, 06:41 PM
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 Posted this here for the sheer awesomeness of his abs! |
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Mar 13 2009, 09:45 PM
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wow! his abs look different from others. they are so huge and chunky.
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Mar 13 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 13 2009, 06:41 PM) Posted this here for the sheer awesomeness of his abs! |
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Mar 13 2009, 11:34 PM
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almost as big as his chest muscle. =.=
and its out of proportion. |
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Mar 14 2009, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 13 2009, 06:41 PM) Posted this here for the sheer awesomeness of his abs!  QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 13 2009, 11:34 PM) almost as big as his chest muscle. =.= that one cant change and its out of proportion.  Chow |
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Mar 14 2009, 12:49 AM
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true enough... its in the genes...
but can the right exercise affect this? i mean even genetically its crooked, but then is there any way to help it? |
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Mar 14 2009, 12:51 AM
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afaik, no. they are PRO. if there is, wouldn't you think they done it at first to correct their "crooked" abs?
makes sense right? Chow |
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Mar 14 2009, 01:31 AM
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true enough. =.=
well, then i got to find out for myself bout my abs. kaka... if i see it looks weird, i might as well not have it too obvious. =.= |
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Mar 14 2009, 02:12 AM
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I know there is much better than his but his is unique!
Zane and Flex would be great examples! |
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Mar 14 2009, 02:12 AM
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am a fan of his abs
 Tom Venuto at 3.7% bf |
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Mar 14 2009, 03:55 AM
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cmon guys..post up pics uf urself not pros...hahhm motivtion...first person is darklight..ahhaha
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Mar 14 2009, 04:18 AM
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got abs like Serge later i post. lol
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Mar 14 2009, 04:43 AM
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awesome..... i would like abs liek that too............ i only can see 4 rectus..... dem......but i predict once i stop my bulking and pump up on my cardio...i will definitely be able to see six...
i can feel it....its under all dose fats... grr |
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Mar 14 2009, 12:35 PM
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Hey guys, id like to ask something about weight increment during lifting.
I know the norm is to start with lower weights to 'pump' blood into ur muscles before ur work sets and as a warmup session, but i find it odd that my performance actually drops if i were to follow that method. I'll use bicep curls for example. Here's what happened: - Current method (All weights are in kg) 10x15 (Warmup) 10x20 (Work set? Dont really know) 10x25 8x30 (SUPPOSED to be the best i can carry, but i'll definately either give up on the 5th or 6th rep because of the previous sets) How do i feel? Damn tired. Much much more tired than my previous method and the lactic acid buildup is so bloody annoying. VERY DIZZY. - Previous method (Before i know anything decent about bodybuilding) 9x30 (Didnt really warmup target muscles before..just did 5 min cardio) 9x30 9x30 How do i feel? Definately not as tired as the current method, not as much lactic 'burn' in my arms but muscles feel completely wiped out (isnt it supposed to be good?) Note: Rest time around 1-1.30 mins between sets. This post has been edited by roxxor89: Mar 14 2009, 12:36 PM |
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Mar 14 2009, 03:58 PM
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Take darklight's advice,warm up the muscle with very light weight first then do your work sets!
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Mar 14 2009, 05:23 PM
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warm up of 5-6 reps is ok. And eat more for more pump
Ok. I have a little problem. Now my deadlift is at 70kg and I wear maxx glove. Nowadays my middle finger will feel numb. Even when on rest day. When I try to deadlift, when gripping the barbell. My numb get worst. It's like got a vein there got some pressure. How to overcome this or got any substitute for deadlift ? |
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Mar 14 2009, 06:11 PM
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Had this problem where my leather gloves pinched a nerve and cause numbness in my fingers,i stopped using gloves since then!
Calluses rock! |
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Mar 14 2009, 07:27 PM
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Hey anyone knows who is that big guy in that kit kat ad? The one who's afraid of the cockroach and stepped all cans flat? Damn he's huge!
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Mar 14 2009, 07:46 PM
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Got a link to the ad?Haven't seen it yet!
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Mar 14 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 14 2009, 07:46 PM) Got a link to the ad?Haven't seen it yet! I can't find the youtube of it. But it has been on TV for like almost a year already. |
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Mar 15 2009, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Mar 14 2009, 07:27 PM) Hey anyone knows who is that big guy in that kit kat ad? The one who's afraid of the cockroach and stepped all cans flat? Damn he's huge! i didnt watch TV, but i heard Wong Hong on some ads.ps: u do know Wong Hong right? Chow |
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Mar 15 2009, 01:11 AM
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wong hong has huge huge forearms... =.=
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Mar 15 2009, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 15 2009, 12:02 AM) i didnt watch TV, but i heard Wong Hong on some ads. That guy on TV is too young to be Wong Hong la.ps: u do know Wong Hong right? Chow |
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Mar 15 2009, 12:16 PM
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Something funny i came across, Lol Light weight baby! |
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Mar 15 2009, 03:03 PM
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err... can i take whey as my breakfast? or any suggestion of instant breakfast? thanks~
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Mar 15 2009, 03:06 PM
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Oats!
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Mar 15 2009, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 15 2009, 03:06 PM) Oats! err.. oats is gud, i noe that... but need get hot water 2prepare it... >.< no time 2prepare it when i am rushing 2 class... haha... |
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Mar 15 2009, 03:39 PM
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Boiling water is like what.................5 mins???
You could always get an oats bar! |
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Mar 15 2009, 03:47 PM
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I always take my oats with cool water, not cold, not hot.
It's fine. Y do u even need to boil the water? |
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Mar 15 2009, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 15 2009, 03:39 PM) Boiling water is like what.................5 mins??? thanks, oats bar (aww... i duno there r oats bar in the market) sounds nice... anythng else? cz duwan taking oats bar daily You could always get an oats bar!  yea, 5mins to boil water, 5mins prepare, 5mins makan (as its hot) = 15mins |
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Mar 15 2009, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 15 2009, 03:49 PM) thanks, oats bar (aww... i duno there r oats bar in the market) sounds nice... anythng else? cz duwan taking oats bar daily wake up 30min b4 ur class lor....reduce 15min... yea, 5mins to boil water, 5mins prepare, 5mins makan (as its hot) = 15mins still got 15min for u to prepare.. |
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Mar 15 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(MooZz @ Mar 15 2009, 04:14 PM) wake up 30min b4 ur class lor....reduce 15min... i skip breakfast cz needa wake up early prepare, lik class at 8, wake 7 take bath n prepare, 7.30 go out... if need do breakfast den need wake 6++ still got 15min for u to prepare.. ok, i noe i am lazy =X |
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Mar 15 2009, 04:38 PM
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What do you want us to tell you??
You're too lazy? You already know that! Just eat a banana in the morning then! |
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Mar 15 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 15 2009, 04:38 PM) What do you want us to tell you?? wokie, my bad... You're too lazy? You already know that! Just eat a banana in the morning then! i think i'l stop here... answer obtained : oats, oats bar and banana cheers |
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Mar 15 2009, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 15 2009, 04:27 PM) i skip breakfast cz needa wake up early prepare, lik class at 8, wake 7 take bath n prepare, 7.30 go out... if need do breakfast den need wake 6++ Then don't bother working out. My breakfast takes 5 minutes to prepare. Idiot. ok, i noe i am lazy =X |
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Mar 15 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 15 2009, 10:04 PM) Then don't bother working out. My breakfast takes 5 minutes to prepare. Idiot. kk, my bad... not finding trouble here... jo u should pm me earlier... i'l stick wif ur way |
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Mar 15 2009, 10:45 PM
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wah.. kena shoot from many directions.. haha.. still student forgivable, but if ur a working responsible adult you deserve to be shot..
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Mar 15 2009, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 15 2009, 10:45 PM) wah.. kena shoot from many directions.. haha.. still student forgivable, but if ur a working responsible adult you deserve to be shot.. yea... lol... still a student... i did say i am lazy, but i din say i wont wake 5mins earlier 2 prepare a breakfast... jz wanna noe if i can get any nutritious instant breakfast... lik oats bar? if really dun hav, den wake early lo... last alternative ma peace~ This post has been edited by bagata: Mar 15 2009, 11:16 PM |
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Mar 15 2009, 11:12 PM
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Eat your oat with whey. Then fish oil. Fast enough
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Mar 16 2009, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 15 2009, 10:27 PM) kk, my bad... I'm just kidding. =P It's so easy man. Add oats into a shaker with cold milk, mix it up and drink it down. I add in whey though.not finding trouble here... jo u should pm me earlier... i'l stick wif ur way |
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Mar 16 2009, 12:17 AM
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haha... vincent, kena shoot from everywhere.
how i know u starting gym. kaka... okok later in class find me. i tell u more... =.= hehe... well, anyway, any of u have elbow problem? wat i mean is... i feel weak at my elbow... its aching at times... and as i stretch it, its painful too... =.= haha... its fakap aint it? =.= i wonder... |
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Mar 16 2009, 12:38 AM
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i wont say mine fakap, lol, but got sound kluk klak...lullzz..
its quite pain when push ups or bench press. i wanna try glucosamine and see how it goes ps: bagata and you MMU student? if you guys bought together we can meet. lol Chow |
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Mar 16 2009, 12:57 AM
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hehe... yup. mmu... =.=
actually many mmu gym goer taking supplements. but most of them go gnc buy... wakkaka... well, sure, can meet anytime. mine also got krak krak sound... having problem with heavy weights... bench press can surpass 70kg. haiz... started 1 month but still at here... thought can reach 80kg by this week. but guess i got to stop coz of the stupid elbow... |
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Mar 16 2009, 01:10 AM
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im using dumbbell now, more easy onmy shoulder and elbow
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Mar 16 2009, 01:11 AM
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hmmm... i am doing bench presses and also inclined and decline.
haha... i think i will follow u changing to dumbell if it hurts like this any more. |
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Mar 16 2009, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 16 2009, 12:57 AM) hehe... yup. mmu... =.= You guys train in MMU's gym? How does it look like? Got pics to share?actually many mmu gym goer taking supplements. but most of them go gnc buy... wakkaka... well, sure, can meet anytime. mine also got krak krak sound... having problem with heavy weights... bench press can surpass 70kg. haiz... started 1 month but still at here... thought can reach 80kg by this week. but guess i got to stop coz of the stupid elbow... |
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Mar 16 2009, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 15 2009, 11:12 PM) Eat your oat with whey. Then fish oil. Fast enough QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 16 2009, 12:13 AM) I'm just kidding. =P It's so easy man. Add oats into a shaker with cold milk, mix it up and drink it down. I add in whey though. thanks for the suggestion... oats + milk/whey sounds fast enuf QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 16 2009, 12:17 AM) haha... vincent, kena shoot from everywhere. should noe it when u look at my siggy how i know u starting gym. kaka... okok later in class find me. i tell u more... =.= hehe... well, anyway, any of u have elbow problem? wat i mean is... i feel weak at my elbow... its aching at times... and as i stretch it, its painful too... =.= haha... its fakap aint it? =.= i wonder... QUOTE(bata @ Mar 16 2009, 12:38 AM) i wont say mine fakap, lol, but got sound kluk klak...lullzz.. yea, mmu... might consider it cz haven decide which suppliment i will get... will get to ya soon bro...its quite pain when push ups or bench press. i wanna try glucosamine and see how it goes ps: bagata and you MMU student? if you guys bought together we can meet. lol Chow |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:06 AM
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vincent, wake up so early make breakfast go class?
wow... =.= haha... u got the wrong concept le... =.= oats + milk/whey sounds fast enuf.... (its actually more to oats/whey + milk) haha... why dont just dump in all... u r not fat at all, so no problem. ur bf might be even less than 15%. |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:15 AM
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I got this kruk kruk sound at my right shoulder. Every curl, kruk. Quite scary. Cannot bicep curl much on my right hand. My left hand stronger than my right hand altho i am a right handed. What the ..
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Mar 16 2009, 11:50 AM
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LOL, No kruk-krak, no gain.
Hahaha.. is it wise to use wrist, albow, joint straps for support? If it helps, by all means use them. And I think there are supplements/multivitamins for joints and cartilage support. |
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Mar 16 2009, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 16 2009, 10:06 AM) vincent, wake up so early make breakfast go class? lol... tot oats is for carbs, whey/milk is for protein... eggs sounds cheaper thou wow... =.= haha... u got the wrong concept le... =.= oats + milk/whey sounds fast enuf.... (its actually more to oats/whey + milk) haha... why dont just dump in all... u r not fat at all, so no problem. ur bf might be even less than 15%. nola, wake early study... haven get my breakfast ingredient ready... makan cookies nia... aiyo, all fat concentrate on belly u cant see nia... |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:10 PM
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anybody using whiteflood or vasocharge over here ? this might be my next supplement on the list.. im not sure whether to get a creatine product or get the abovementioned ones to aid in training..
i don't really fancy creatine that much as i think the fullness of the body is because of the water retention not fully lean mean muscles.. also, i read a few places that creatine is somewhat of a psychological effect? no doubt of its effectiveness to give you anaerobic energy, but whether it is worth it or not ? |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:33 PM
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wow bodybuilding thread? i guess i gotta tune in here more frequent now
since my gf i've got a problem though. Whenever i do sit-ups, my backbone just aches. Maybe cos last time i fell on my back few times.any other method to like, to get rid of the tummy? |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:39 PM
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You thought sit ups would decrease your belly?
Wrong! Cardio will! Go run! |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 16 2009, 10:39 PM) You thought sit ups would decrease your belly? it wouldn't??!! Wrong! Cardio will! Go run!  ya doing runnings too.. Trying to hit the gym regularly nowadays, since i'm like 10 metres away from the campus gym only well at least built some muscles ady somewhat firmer now.. |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:47 PM
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There is no spot reduction!
You need to lower the overall fat percentage! |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:50 PM
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^so therefore by consuming less food right?
yeah.. doing it too.. |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:56 PM
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Correct,food intake and exercise work together!
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 16 2009, 10:10 PM) i don't really fancy creatine that much as i think the fullness of the body is because of the water retention not fully lean mean muscles.. also, i read a few places that creatine is somewhat of a psychological effect? no doubt of its effectiveness to give you anaerobic energy, but whether it is worth it or not ? Have you actually TRIED any creatine supplements? If you have, I really think you won't be making such remarks. If you are expecting instant results, nomatter what supplement you take you will never be satisfied; this is where the 'psychological' effect takes place.There is no miracle supplement for bb-ing. I've been taking creatine for nearly a year now and I can honestly say that it does have its effects. It takes time to notice, but creatine has surely helped me in getting BIGger and STRONGer. For me, the effects are not so much as having extra energy in the gym or being able to push those extra reps. Its more to recovery and helping nutrients get to the muscles during rest. After all, our muscles don't grow in the gym. Allow it time to work, and you will surely see results. |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:08 PM
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Well, in spite of the wide belief that there is no such thing as spot reduction, Vince DelMonte believes there is.
Tom Venuto says no, Mike Geary says no too but Vince is of the opinion that spot reduction focused on the abdominal area is possible. He states that his high intensity training (on abs) would be able to spot reduce fats around the abdominal area and reveal the abs more quickly. |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 16 2009, 10:56 PM) Correct,food intake and exercise work together! But it takes perseverance man.. Aih... sometimes it's hard eh>>uhuk-uhuk: er.... wat that mean? sorry mate i'm new here.. don't exactly know the terms. pardon me pls |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:11 PM
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Another theory i read is that sit ups makes the abs more prominent so you can see them even with the fat still there!
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Mar 16 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 16 2009, 10:39 PM) You thought sit ups would decrease your belly? ahhh was wondering how to loose my belly..Wrong! Cardio will! Go run! lower abs too much fat la.. bad habit of eating b4 i sleep.. so just cardio huh... but im like skinny enough on the other parts of the body... |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 16 2009, 11:11 PM) Another theory i read is that sit ups makes the abs more prominent so you can see them even with the fat still there! ah... then... how? |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:16 PM
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Then continue with your cardio!
This one is the simplest method! |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Mar 16 2009, 11:00 PM) Have you actually TRIED any creatine supplements? If you have, I really think you won't be making such remarks. If you are expecting instant results, nomatter what supplement you take you will never be satisfied; this is where the 'psychological' effect takes place. nope, i have not tried creatine and lookin into whether i should or not thats why im askin There is no miracle supplement for bb-ing. I've been taking creatine for nearly a year now and I can honestly say that it does have its effects. It takes time to notice, but creatine has surely helped me in getting BIGger and STRONGer. For me, the effects are not so much as having extra energy in the gym or being able to push those extra reps. Its more to recovery and helping nutrients get to the muscles during rest. After all, our muscles don't grow in the gym. Allow it time to work, and you will surely see results. but budget is tight therefore im asking whether to buy something like a whiteflood/vasocharge/creatine.. which one do you think is more bang for buck if you were to put it that way..by the way, what happens when u stop taking creatine ? muscles shrink from lack of retention of water ? |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:19 PM
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>>pedro: alright. will increase my time on the treadmill then
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Mar 16 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 16 2009, 11:17 PM) nope, i have not tried creatine and lookin into whether i should or not thats why im askin i think a normal creatine mono is the cheapest comparing whiteflood or vaso but budget is tight therefore im asking whether to buy something like a whiteflood/vasocharge/creatine.. which one do you think is more bang for buck if you were to put it that way..by the way, what happens when u stop taking creatine ? muscles shrink from lack of retention of water ? right? |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:28 PM
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Creatine should be cheaper!
MyKy44-You have any other cardio equipment available? |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:29 PM
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ohhh speaking of which...can i just sit in the sauna anyways?
wont i just sweat it out hahah.. |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 16 2009, 11:28 PM) Creatine should be cheaper! not me, but the uni's gym MyKy44-You have any other cardio equipment available? er, got treadmill, the stairs machine, cycling machine |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:33 PM
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Thats neat!
Use all the 3! Stepper is a nice calorie burner! |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:39 PM
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but all like, got problem a bit wan. kinda difficult to adjust the settings. Some don't even work
but yeah, found a few which can use wan la. But that also gotta go at odd hours. Evening is a no no, cos gym will be quite crowded. got that rowing machine too. I like to work on that, can feel my arms really toning up |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:43 PM
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How is the free weights section??
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Mar 16 2009, 11:49 PM
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they got the dumbells, the er, i dunno call wat, but the longer version of dumbell.
they got this, er, weights machine too. sorta like all in one punya stuff sorta ancient i bet, a bit rusty here and there |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 16 2009, 10:33 PM) wow bodybuilding thread? i guess i gotta tune in here more frequent now sit-ups is bad for health... wiki bout "sit-ups" since my gf i've got a problem though. Whenever i do sit-ups, my backbone just aches. Maybe cos last time i fell on my back few times.any other method to like, to get rid of the tummy? QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 16 2009, 11:11 PM) ahhh was wondering how to loose my belly.. same here same here... other part thin, jz belly nia lower abs too much fat la.. bad habit of eating b4 i sleep.. so just cardio huh... but im like skinny enough on the other parts of the body... |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:54 PM
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^srs shit? damn............... i felt.... tricked...
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Mar 16 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 16 2009, 11:53 PM) same here same here... other part thin, jz belly nia the belly is not a nice view... gonna loose it la.. gonna add cardio day into my workout already... |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 16 2009, 11:49 PM) they got the dumbells, the er, i dunno call wat, but the longer version of dumbell. its called barbell they got this, er, weights machine too. sorta like all in one punya stuff sorta ancient i bet, a bit rusty here and there QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 16 2009, 11:54 PM) ^srs shit? damn............... i felt.... tricked... srs shit?  Added on March 16, 2009, 11:57 pm QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 16 2009, 11:55 PM) hahaa...yessss...it looks bad... not jz bad... its vy vy vy bad the belly is not a nice view... gonna loose it la.. gonna add cardio day into my workout already... This post has been edited by bagata: Mar 16 2009, 11:57 PM |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:57 PM
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oh. barbell.. lol
srs shit = serious shit.. erm. think of it like another term for 'seriously?' |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 16 2009, 11:57 PM) oh. barbell.. lol did u mean the sit-up thingy? i even bought the inclined sit-up bench from fitness concept srs shit = serious shit.. erm. think of it like another term for 'seriously?'   |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:01 AM
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they got the "longer " version of dumbells?.......... AHHAHAHAHAH
...its called a barbell... |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:01 AM
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^yeah.. i always thought, and been told, that sit-ups are to eliminate the tummy problem
Grrr... |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:01 AM) ^yeah.. i always thought, and been told, that sit-ups are to eliminate the tummy problem i duno bout that, but i am vy sure that sit-ups is bad for back... try crunch instead Grrr... |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:16 AM
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fuyoh... vincent pro de wor...
wakkaka... well, u really got the sit up bench? how much u buy le? |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:17 AM
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actually, wats the difference between sit up and crunch?
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Mar 17 2009, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Mar 17 2009, 12:17 AM) actually, wats the difference between sit up and crunch? u can try google and see?youtube can show u better view. =.= |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 17 2009, 12:01 AM) they got the "longer " version of dumbells?.......... AHHAHAHAHAH omg... i think i've just become the joke of this thread.... uh waaaaahh ...its called a barbell...  QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 17 2009, 12:03 AM) i duno bout that, but i am vy sure that sit-ups is bad for back... try crunch instead crunch is how? |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:19 AM) omg... i think i've just become the joke of this thread.... uh waaaaahh crunch? hmmm... its when u do this and do that. then ur that thing get more muscular.crunch is how? then more more more nicer and harder... dont understand? haha... i being lame... =.= try youtube bro... it really gives u the explanation u want. =.= |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:29 AM
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well i'm sorry then, i'm using only EDGE and the speed doesn't permit me to watch youtube.
maybe i'll go to the pc lab 2moro and hope the speed is fast enough so i can load the front page.. |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 17 2009, 12:16 AM) fuyoh... vincent pro de wor... nah, not pro... lolx... noe that cz i experience it, n research bout it... lol..wakkaka... well, u really got the sit up bench? how much u buy le? yea, i got it... u wan ar? sell u 2nd hand i bought 90bucks QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Mar 17 2009, 12:17 AM) actually, wats the difference between sit up and crunch? QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:19 AM) omg... i think i've just become the joke of this thread.... uh waaaaahh crunch is lik sit up, its jz that ur back dun leave the floor... crunch is how? jo is right, youtube is a better teacher here... |
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anybody follow milos sarcev the way of training... it very hardcore... not only feel muscle pain but ur bone also..
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Mar 17 2009, 12:33 AM
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>>bagata: ok.. i think i get the pic.. will consult youtube 2moro morning.
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Mar 17 2009, 12:33 AM
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its not about how many rep ur lift... but how u feel it... more rep and more heavy ur lift make more damage to the muscle... when more damage s you muscle will heal and grow bigger ang stronger..
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Mar 17 2009, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:33 AM) >>bagata: ok.. i think i get the pic.. will consult youtube 2moro morning. cz by jz wordings at here doesnt show anythng... take ur time n consult youtube |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:35 AM
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Mar 17 2009, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(DOUBLEBICEPS @ Mar 17 2009, 12:31 AM) anybody follow milos sarcev the way of training... it very hardcore... not only feel muscle pain but ur bone also.. well, i kinda like his way Chow |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(DOUBLEBICEPS @ Mar 17 2009, 12:33 AM) its not about how many rep ur lift... but how u feel it... more rep and more heavy ur lift make more damage to the muscle... when more damage s you muscle will heal and grow bigger ang stronger.. yeah i've read of such articles too >>pedro: yeah it loaded oh i did those too, when my dad took me to the gym they had those machines too. but my back still aches when i do those |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 17 2009, 12:35 AM) nice site... but load bit slow >.<Added on March 17, 2009, 12:44 am QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 12:41 AM) yeah i've read of such articles too if crunches still hurts ur back... i think it is either u do it the wrong way, or ur back really vy vy vy weak... cz i am doing ok wif crunches =)>>pedro: yeah it loaded oh i did those too, when my dad took me to the gym they had those machines too. but my back still aches when i do those This post has been edited by bagata: Mar 17 2009, 12:44 AM |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:49 AM
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Dorian Yate's method.
anyone tried it? how is it compared to 3 sets heavy weight 4-6 reps of Max-OT? |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:31 AM
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Dude, to do Dorian Yates' regime takes years of experience, know-how and mental strength like no other. I forgot which month of Flex I read that had a piece on him and his training methods. All I can say is, WOW. Maybe someone could find his training regime as I'm lazy.
Personally, I greatly respect his philosophy and his complete dedication to the sport but I don't think I'll ever try his regime. I'm happy with what I am now. Interesting interview here. |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 17 2009, 12:41 AM) if crunches still hurts ur back... i think it is either u do it the wrong way, or ur back really vy vy vy weak... cz i am doing ok wif crunches =) i think i've hurt my back quite srsly.. let's say if it still hurts, any other methods? |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 17 2009, 10:42 AM) i think i've hurt my back quite srsly.. consult doctor? >.<let's say if it still hurts, any other methods? for me, i rest few days... i mean when last time doing sit-ups... This post has been edited by bagata: Mar 17 2009, 10:45 AM |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:47 AM
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if u did some workout for your back..mayb its just normal sore..
normally it would heal around a week? but if the pain is too much.. yess you should get it check... |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:47 AM
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maybe i should.. but wat/how to describe my problem? maybe while seeing the doc, ask for removal of my toenail too.. >< |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:58 AM
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Lol,2 birds one stone??
Normally rest should make the back fine again! |
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Mar 17 2009, 05:39 PM
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wanna ask yall~
how long do you guys workout everyday? i workout only for 30 minutes everday, including HIIT 7 days a week, I alternate each muscle group in such a way that, after every workout they will get a recovery of 1 day period? I considered myself to be a amateur looking for better physique(bodybuilder? lol i wish i am:D) the question is: 30 minutes of heart pumping workout, is it enough? hope you guys can give me some opinions~^^ |
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Mar 17 2009, 05:56 PM
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well for myself..
im doing a 5day split... one day 1hours.. one day one major muscle group n one smaller one.. or just a single cardio day.. its not good to work out so long i heard... |
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Mar 17 2009, 06:14 PM
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It depends on what you want to achieve!
This will determine everything,like reps,sets and rest time between sets! |
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Mar 17 2009, 07:06 PM
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more than 1 hour now, only weights
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Mar 17 2009, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 17 2009, 10:58 AM) Lol,2 birds one stone?? yaya... normally rest will heal it... mayb try resting for few days, if still same den go see doct tel him u doing sit-ups? Normally rest should make the back fine again! btw, HIIT is what? |
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Mar 17 2009, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 17 2009, 05:56 PM) well for myself.. ya, cortisol will rise, some claimedim doing a 5day split... one day 1hours.. one day one major muscle group n one smaller one.. or just a single cardio day.. its not good to work out so long i heard... imo, it's the intensity, ie volume and reps, that matters Added on March 17, 2009, 8:04 pm QUOTE(bata @ Mar 17 2009, 07:06 PM) more than 1 hour now, only weights wow that's serious manChow i wish my work allows me to workout for an hour This post has been edited by XmT: Mar 17 2009, 08:04 PM |
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Mar 17 2009, 08:16 PM
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It is extremely difficult to maintain a healthy body while working in Malaysia.
I sometimes work on weekends, so I have to really push myself to the gym whenever I am free. |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 17 2009, 08:16 PM) It is extremely difficult to maintain a healthy body while working in Malaysia. The hardest part is actually the food!!!! hard to find healthy food everywhere. only selected places can find foods suitable.I sometimes work on weekends, so I have to really push myself to the gym whenever I am free. oh well, just need to know how to get around it. |
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Mar 17 2009, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 17 2009, 07:52 PM) yaya... normally rest will heal it... mayb try resting for few days, if still same den go see doct tel him u doing sit-ups? vincent... lucky i am the 1st to reply u. btw, HIIT is what? its high intensive interval training. try google to know more... if other ppl see u ask, sure shoot u. =.= well, for u... i suggest do normal cardio instead of doing hiit. or u can try cross training. =.= |
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Mar 18 2009, 12:09 AM
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any1 here got good advice on ppl planing to do HIIT? i read an article at bb.com that warm up for 5-10min than do slow jog 30sec than sprint for 30 sec and do a 7 rep. issit this good for beginner of HIIT?
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Mar 18 2009, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Mar 18 2009, 12:09 AM) any1 here got good advice on ppl planing to do HIIT? i read an article at bb.com that warm up for 5-10min than do slow jog 30sec than sprint for 30 sec and do a 7 rep. issit this good for beginner of HIIT? Depending on your condition. if thats your goal, u might wanna start out with jog 1 min, then sprint 30 secs. then jog 1 min and sprint 30 secs cycle. when u get better then u reduce the jog time to 45 secs and sprint 30 secs. and ultimately jog and sprint 30 secs.if condition not that good, then mebbe jog 2 mins and sprint 30 secs. u get the idea... |
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Mar 18 2009, 12:45 AM
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Mar 18 2009, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 17 2009, 10:53 PM) vincent... lucky i am the 1st to reply u. its high intensive interval training. try google to know more... if other ppl see u ask, sure shoot u. =.= well, for u... i suggest do normal cardio instead of doing hiit. or u can try cross training. =.= QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 18 2009, 12:45 AM) thanks for the explanation... been doing it w/o knowing thre is a term for it... |
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Mar 18 2009, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 18 2009, 12:45 AM) i simply climb the stair of six floor and consider it as one set of my HIITthere's will there's a way, though sort of nuts,haha |
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Mar 18 2009, 01:05 PM
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HIIT is when heart rate is more than 85% max during the high intensity part. If not, it's just a normal cardio. It's very hard to do the real HIIT. You'll ache all over the body
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Mar 18 2009, 01:16 PM
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if i am not wrong, doing that too much, might even burn off ur muscles?
or so... i forgot where i read bout it... =.= might be wrong or i am blur... |
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Mar 18 2009, 04:39 PM
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Do that too much. You won't have enough time to recover for your aching muscle. In the end you will lose muscle. Cause no recovery time. cardio HIIT main target is the quad, and calf (dono in bodybuilding term) and base of feet. People sprint put down toe first not the heel first. you will go faster. See Usain bolt slow mo. Try it in HIIT
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Mar 18 2009, 05:16 PM
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How fast does one lose muscles after having Diarhea?
I had diarrhea last week and was unable to eat much for at least 3 days. |
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Mar 18 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Mar 18 2009, 05:16 PM) How fast does one lose muscles after having Diarhea? LOL me too! u knew about it anyway I had diarrhea last week and was unable to eat much for at least 3 days. same ler...but my appetite is recovering |
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Mar 18 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Mar 18 2009, 05:19 PM) LOL me too! u knew about it anyway Haha should have tell me, I would try my luck with 4D earlier haha.same ler...but my appetite is recovering My appetite is yet to recover but still managed to drink my shakes at the moment. Just eating a lot less, getting less tempted by food for some reasons. |
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Mar 18 2009, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 18 2009, 01:05 PM) HIIT is when heart rate is more than 85% max during the high intensity part. If not, it's just a normal cardio. It's very hard to do the real HIIT. You'll ache all over the body ok that differs from the HIIT u guys talking and the HIIT i tot i am doing |
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Mar 19 2009, 11:40 AM
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Finally, I managed to do dumbbells shoulder press @ 55lbs per arm, total = 110lbs last night with the help of the kicking technique.
Thank guys. PS. I am going to try 60-65lbs per arm next time which brings the total up to 120-130lbs. This post has been edited by kianweic: Mar 19 2009, 11:40 AM |
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Mar 19 2009, 02:11 PM
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hiya i need to know something...please enlighten me... im taking whey protien, creatine, and amino at the moment...i was wondering if i take those weight gain supplement to increase my weight say for 2months...after dat i stop taking them...will my mass decrease to the way i was before?
example like if the carbo supplement i take will gain me a 5-7kg, den after i stop will i go back to my previous weight ? coz its not cheap le... |
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Mar 19 2009, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 18 2009, 01:16 PM) if i am not wrong, doing that too much, might even burn off ur muscles? I'm currently doing 20mins of interval treadmill cardio after my weight training. I doesn't cause any muscle lost, provided you don't OVERDO it. 20mins is perfectly fine; it also increases blood flow and I notice a significant improvement in recovery time of the target muscles i workout after adding the interval cardio session to my workout.or so... i forgot where i read bout it... =.= might be wrong or i am blur... Doing interval cardio will also help boost metabolism post workout, important for continuously burning fats while you are out of the gym. |
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Mar 19 2009, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 19 2009, 02:11 PM) hiya i need to know something...please enlighten me... im taking whey protien, creatine, and amino at the moment...i was wondering if i take those weight gain supplement to increase my weight say for 2months...after dat i stop taking them...will my mass decrease to the way i was before? Ask this question in the bodybuilding thread please.example like if the carbo supplement i take will gain me a 5-7kg, den after i stop will i go back to my previous weight ? coz its not cheap le... I'll attach it there, easier that way. And if you actualy search, this question has been answered........over and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and over and over already. EDIT: I've merged your post yeezai This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 19 2009, 03:50 PM |
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Mar 19 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 19 2009, 02:28 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 19 2009, 03:50 PM
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erh... nt urs.
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Mar 19 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 18 2009, 01:05 PM) HIIT is when heart rate is more than 85% max during the high intensity part. If not, it's just a normal cardio. It's very hard to do the real HIIT. You'll ache all over the body I've been doing HIIT for 2 weeks already. But in the last session, after HIIT, I felt faint and visions are as if you're drunk and the sounds from the surroundings are getting softer and softer as if someone is closing my ears. I sat idle for 15 mins, then everything went back to normal. What is the problem? Never experience this before. |
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Mar 19 2009, 04:28 PM
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maybe overdone? fatigue?
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Mar 19 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 19 2009, 04:28 PM) maybe overdone? fatigue? But this never happened in the last 2 weeks. Just few days ago. Maybe it's just like you said, fatigue. |
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Mar 19 2009, 05:12 PM
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it could be... ur body need more rest maybe?
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Mar 19 2009, 05:24 PM
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Whats your pre-workout??
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Mar 19 2009, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 19 2009, 02:28 PM) Ask this question in the bodybuilding thread please. pizzaboy mind to link the post .... I'll attach it there, easier that way. And if you actualy search, this question has been answered........over and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and overover and over and over already. EDIT: I've merged your post yeezai |
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Mar 19 2009, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 19 2009, 05:24 PM) Whats your pre-workout?? Most of the time, 250mL milk + whey.Occasionally, 2 bananas. |
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Mar 19 2009, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 19 2009, 05:28 PM) pizzaboy mind to link the post .... Mind to simply "search" This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 19 2009, 05:54 PM |
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Mar 19 2009, 06:43 PM
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pizzaboy i need your help here...i tried many keywords ... zero...nada...anyone here can answer my questions? thx thx.....
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Mar 19 2009, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE hiya i need to know something...please enlighten me... im taking whey protien, creatine, and amino at the moment...i was wondering if i take those weight gain supplement to increase my weight say for 2months...after dat i stop taking them...will my mass decrease to the way i was before? example like if the carbo supplement i take will gain me a 5-7kg, den after i stop will i go back to my previous weight ? coz its not cheap le... This one i guess!  |
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Mar 19 2009, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 19 2009, 06:43 PM) pizzaboy i need your help here...i tried many keywords ... zero...nada...anyone here can answer my questions? thx thx..... Let me dig this out of my brains (DIGS)Your weight increase was thanks to the increase in calories. Your added protein gave your body the building blocks to start reconstruction as your body was broken down via exercise. Carbs became the catalyst to your muscle reconstruction via synthesis of the amino acids. If your body has reached the desired weight, and caloric intake remains consistent to the minimal intake your body needs for maintenance of weight, it will not drop. However, if there's a decrease below your maintenance caloric requirement, you will drop in weight. It's as simple as that. |
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Mar 19 2009, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 19 2009, 07:00 PM) Let me dig this out of my brains (DIGS) hmm for example if i eat 6 meals a day = 2500cal/day ... out of the six , 2 is meal replacement drinks....if i cut down on those 2 meal den i will become thin again ka...im a hardgainer ma but if i invest on mass supplement on short term oso a waste of money rite? why those mass i gain cant remain on my body ? say if ive not started to weight train or do exercise b4 i have 4meals sometime 3 meals only but my weight still not change geh...... abit confused ....Your weight increase was thanks to the increase in calories. Your added protein gave your body the building blocks to start reconstruction as your body was broken down via exercise. Carbs became the catalyst to your muscle reconstruction via synthesis of the amino acids. If your body has reached the desired weight, and caloric intake remains consistent to the minimal intake your body needs for maintenance of weight, it will not drop. However, if there's a decrease below your maintenance caloric requirement, you will drop in weight. It's as simple as that. |
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Mar 19 2009, 10:13 PM
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calorie intake > calories needed = gain weight
calorie intake < calories needed = lose weight calorie intake = calories needed = no gain no lose u figure out from here la.. depends on ur lifestyle, body metabolism, how many calories u use everyday for gym etc. say if u take 2500 cal/day and u use 2000 cal/day for gym, work, etc, then ull gain weight.. but if u take out the 2 meal replacement drink to 2000 cal/day, and ur still using 2000 cal/day for gym, work etc then ull not lose weight nor gain weight.. simple no ? |
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Mar 19 2009, 11:28 PM
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I'm still new to BB and i notice that most of the guys use barbell,dumbell for workout instead of equipment. Just wanna is there any reason for it as currently i m using equipment for workout .
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Mar 19 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 19 2009, 07:30 PM) hmm for example if i eat 6 meals a day = 2500cal/day ... out of the six , 2 is meal replacement drinks....if i cut down on those 2 meal den i will become thin again ka...im a hardgainer ma but if i invest on mass supplement on short term oso a waste of money rite? why those mass i gain cant remain on my body ? say if ive not started to weight train or do exercise b4 i have 4meals sometime 3 meals only but my weight still not change geh...... abit confused .... im not good as pizzaboy, lets keep it simple.the ectos need a bit simulation to grow. Lets say u eat xxx amount of calories b4, and didnt exercise, ur weights still the same. u do weights training, and consume xxx calories, u see improvement, your body finally know what to do with all the calories u consumed. lulz QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 19 2009, 02:11 PM) hiya i need to know something...please enlighten me... im taking whey protien, creatine, and amino at the moment...i was wondering if i take those weight gain supplement to increase my weight say for 2months...after dat i stop taking them...will my mass decrease to the way i was before? imagine your body as a car. you as a Kancil before. your consume only a little bit of fuel.example like if the carbo supplement i take will gain me a 5-7kg, den after i stop will i go back to my previous weight ? coz its not cheap le... and now you're a Lamborghini, you consume more fuel, even at red traffic light, compared to Kancil idling right? makes sense? bigger car = more fuel more bigger body needs more calories, doesnt matter which they come from, natural foods or supplements Chow This post has been edited by bata: Mar 19 2009, 11:41 PM |
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Mar 19 2009, 11:41 PM
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hahah yesss...
almost a month i manage to get more than 2000cal perday.. with help of shakes la..made my life so much easier.. i just eat my normal meals and some snacks la.. plus heavy lifting.. been gaining weight consistently.. mayb water weight and some fat.. |
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Mar 20 2009, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 19 2009, 10:13 PM) calorie intake > calories needed = gain weight okie now i understand....calorie intake < calories needed = lose weight calorie intake = calories needed = no gain no lose u figure out from here la.. depends on ur lifestyle, body metabolism, how many calories u use everyday for gym etc. say if u take 2500 cal/day and u use 2000 cal/day for gym, work, etc, then ull gain weight.. but if u take out the 2 meal replacement drink to 2000 cal/day, and ur still using 2000 cal/day for gym, work etc then ull not lose weight nor gain weight.. simple no ? QUOTE(bata @ Mar 19 2009, 11:36 PM) im not good as pizzaboy, lets keep it simple. the thing is i have a really high metabolism so previously before i join the gym no matter how much i eat im still skinny...so quite a large portion of my pay oredi went to food...dats why i wan to understand whether i should invest on carbo supplement or not...coz creatine,protein,amino oredi killing me... lolthe ectos need a bit simulation to grow. Lets say u eat xxx amount of calories b4, and didnt exercise, ur weights still the same. u do weights training, and consume xxx calories, u see improvement, your body finally know what to do with all the calories u consumed. lulz imagine your body as a car. you as a Kancil before. your consume only a little bit of fuel. and now you're a Lamborghini, you consume more fuel, even at red traffic light, compared to Kancil idling right? makes sense? bigger car = more fuel more bigger body needs more calories, doesnt matter which they come from, natural foods or supplements Chow |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 12:38 AM) okie now i understand.... you can dump amino. choose one whether gainers or whey protein.the thing is i have a really high metabolism so previously before i join the gym no matter how much i eat im still skinny...so quite a large portion of my pay oredi went to food...dats why i wan to understand whether i should invest on carbo supplement or not...coz creatine,protein,amino oredi killing me... lol gainers + creatine or whey + creatine shud be enough. the rest invest on solid foods Chow |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:27 AM
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come to think of it, food just to live is actually pretty cheap and affordable.. food for being vain and strong costs an arm and a leg.. :/
how nice if we actually needed carbs to build muscle and not protein! that would be awesome.. i become rice bowl that time.. |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:28 AM
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Weight gainers very the expensive oh.
Can cut cost by mixing whey with carbs/oats/glucose what. BTW, anybody tried mixing sucrose (normal sugar) instead of glucose/dextrose into whey for pre- & during workout drink? (I don't have glucose with me right now) Is the effect the same? I reckon sugar is pretty much a simple carb and easily digested anyway. |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:43 AM
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haha..well if you buying gainers..or just normal whey
try to do less scoops from what they tell you.. and just blend it with a few scoop of oats and some peanut butter.. some flax seed oil...some honey haha... there you go budget gainer with i think 1000cal.. if not mistaken well im muscle juice pretty economical for a 5kg tub.. and i still add oats,peanut butter and honey... This post has been edited by alzaim: Mar 20 2009, 01:43 AM |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:48 AM
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sucrose i think is considered an empty calorie..
QUOTE "Empty Calories" describes foods high in calories but low in nutritional values (also known as junk food!), lacking the health-promoting micro-nutrients listed above. so i dun think its wise to add sucrose in? might be wrong tho.. dextrose and some other sugars are used in products like vitargo tho.. so they might have beneficial effects.. |
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Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 20 2009, 01:13 AM) you can dump amino. choose one whether gainers or whey protein. whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ?gainers + creatine or whey + creatine shud be enough. the rest invest on solid foods Chow QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 20 2009, 01:27 AM) come to think of it, food just to live is actually pretty cheap and affordable.. food for being vain and strong costs an arm and a leg.. :/ me oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe...how nice if we actually needed carbs to build muscle and not protein! that would be awesome.. i become rice bowl that time.. QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 20 2009, 01:28 AM) Weight gainers very the expensive oh. i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ? Can cut cost by mixing whey with carbs/oats/glucose what. BTW, anybody tried mixing sucrose (normal sugar) instead of glucose/dextrose into whey for pre- & during workout drink? (I don't have glucose with me right now) Is the effect the same? I reckon sugar is pretty much a simple carb and easily digested anyway. QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 20 2009, 01:43 AM) haha..well if you buying gainers..or just normal whey u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ? try to do less scoops from what they tell you.. and just blend it with a few scoop of oats and some peanut butter.. some flax seed oil...some honey haha... there you go budget gainer with i think 1000cal.. if not mistaken well im muscle juice pretty economical for a 5kg tub.. and i still add oats,peanut butter and honey... |
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Mar 20 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 20 2009, 01:48 AM) sucrose i think is considered an empty calorie.. Sucrose is 1 molecule of glucose/dextrose + 1 molecule of furctose.so i dun think its wise to add sucrose in? might be wrong tho.. dextrose and some other sugars are used in products like vitargo tho.. so they might have beneficial effects.. They are all empty calories (which provide quick energy). =D I just wanted to know have anybody tried sugar + whey as pre- & during workout shake, and if it's the same as using glucose. |
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Mar 20 2009, 10:08 AM
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Its not the same,tried it before,sugar doesn't last long and leaves you feeling like an empty sac!
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Mar 20 2009, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM) whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ? Honey, anything can gain weight as long as there's enough calories. Many people take excessive protein shakes and wonder "Why am I not gaining weigh?" Ever noticed that a scoop of protein is only 100-130 cals? If 110/3000 cals, you'd need 27 scoops of shakes a day to MEET your average ectomorph requirement. me oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe... i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ? u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ? You mix sugar+creatine for pre, you might experience a sugar crash about 40-45 minutes into your workout and that's when you have to drag yourself to do a single row. My friend has this issue. I don't. In fact, I don't have ANY of issues most people have when training.....weird..... http://rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html <---read this entire article first. It's a goldmine of information. Let's just say that, if you feel you're losing weight after stopping the supplement intake, (which I highly doubt provided you have sufficient food) then you can easily just eat a few more eggs in the morning, a few more chunks of beef and lamb or any meat source. GO to my friend's blog, coachjon.com/blog. I think he has an article about this put very simply. Something about bricks and workers and money = protein, carbs and fat. |
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Mar 20 2009, 12:34 PM
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fructose I read somewhere is converted to glycogen that is easily be stored in liver compared to muscle. While lactose and glucose converted to glycogen and is easily stored in the muscles. So eating too much fructose (fruit) will result in fat storage cause liver can only store about 50-60g glycogen. This is what I recall. AND THIS MUST BE CONFIRM BY EXPERT. DON't SIMPLY FOLLOW MY WORD. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'm WRONG. Thank you
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Mar 20 2009, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM) whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ? seriously!you need more knowledge in BB. please do your study, you seem like lacks of basic knowledge of nutrition and how the body works. please go bodybuilding.com and stuff yourself a bunch of articleme oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe... i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ? u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ? without proper knowledge, you just waste of money for those supplement |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ? well i dont buy that many jar also..coz its juz to add a few calories if i miss or i need some extra on a day.. coz if im not mistaken one spoon is around 100cal with 7 to 9 g of protein.. so yess..with a muscle juice ermm 700cal i think.. peanut butter honey milk bananas and a few spoon of oats.. there you go...an easy 1000cal shake haha.. well pleaseee eat real food also...shakes are just there to make you life much easier... |
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Mar 20 2009, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 20 2009, 12:34 PM) fructose I read somewhere is converted to glycogen that is easily be stored in liver compared to muscle. While lactose and glucose converted to glycogen and is easily stored in the muscles. So eating too much fructose (fruit) will result in fat storage cause liver can only store about 50-60g glycogen. This is what I recall. AND THIS MUST BE CONFIRM BY EXPERT. DON't SIMPLY FOLLOW MY WORD. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'm WRONG. Thank you cobain take a look at this~~http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/200...ruit_fructo.php I think their words is very true, moderation is the key~ |
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Mar 20 2009, 02:46 PM
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Thank you XmT for digging the info
Actually 7 big banana a day will be stored to fat But in the end, if your are in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Mar 20 2009, 02:48 PM |
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Mar 20 2009, 03:34 PM
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yah, doing workout hard doesn't mean we can pigging out
moderation is still the key i have two pieces of fruit everyday, and i can't take more than that, otherwise i'll be too full for other meal, lol |
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Mar 21 2009, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 20 2009, 12:32 PM) Honey, anything can gain weight as long as there's enough calories. Many people take excessive protein shakes and wonder "Why am I not gaining weigh?" Ever noticed that a scoop of protein is only 100-130 cals? If 110/3000 cals, you'd need 27 scoops of shakes a day to MEET your average ectomorph requirement. yes sir...... You mix sugar+creatine for pre, you might experience a sugar crash about 40-45 minutes into your workout and that's when you have to drag yourself to do a single row. My friend has this issue. I don't. In fact, I don't have ANY of issues most people have when training.....weird..... http://rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html <---read this entire article first. It's a goldmine of information. Let's just say that, if you feel you're losing weight after stopping the supplement intake, (which I highly doubt provided you have sufficient food) then you can easily just eat a few more eggs in the morning, a few more chunks of beef and lamb or any meat source. GO to my friend's blog, coachjon.com/blog. I think he has an article about this put very simply. Something about bricks and workers and money = protein, carbs and fat. |
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Mar 21 2009, 01:17 AM
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Yo pizza, do u still do front squats?
any tips on performing front squats better? and how to get front squat weightage up? |
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Mar 21 2009, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 21 2009, 02:17 AM) Yo pizza, do u still do front squats? I'm not pizzaboy but, here is a tip, do cleans.any tips on performing front squats better? and how to get front squat weightage up? |
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Mar 21 2009, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 20 2009, 03:34 PM) yah, doing workout hard doesn't mean we can pigging out I think you mean "Pig Out"? It's kinda weird that you only take two fruits a day....I think you're not training hard enough moderation is still the key i have two pieces of fruit everyday, and i can't take more than that, otherwise i'll be too full for other meal, lol QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 21 2009, 01:17 AM) Yo pizza, do u still do front squats? Still do it three times a week. Two max strength sessions. One more power/speed/explosive session with emphasis at the top drive to assist my clean recovery.any tips on performing front squats better? and how to get front squat weightage up? Trying to front squat 180KG's by December. Rawr! Another 30KG'S more! If you mean better....then I guess the few cues are; 1. Keep chest really high up 2. Use a "clean grip" and push your elbows as high as you possibly can 3. Contract your thighs at the top and keep it contracted all the way down. 4. At the lowest point, explode powerfully upwards. PS: I'm not going to answer what a clean grip is, but I reckon you know what it is. Let's just call it weightlifters grip. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM
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my appetite is not that great anyhow
any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system |
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Mar 21 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM) my appetite is not that great anyhow same here my friend..any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system well my advice..drink those calories down..the easiest way to go.. okay are you into bodybuilding..or doin sports or anything first.. |
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Mar 21 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 03:25 PM) my appetite is not that great anyhow Tips for boosting appetite. any suggestion for boosting appetite? i am an ecto btw, but brawny one sometimes i overtrained, last time i got flu due to brutalizin my immune system 1. Find Shanecross and go do a cross training session with him. 2. Find JIB-89 and try going to a ME deadlift session with him 3. Come to Mlk and train with my coach and I through the evening session. |
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Mar 21 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(alzaim @ Mar 21 2009, 03:48 PM) same here my friend.. yeah i eat a lot of white rice and eggs, cause egg is easier for my stomachwell my advice..drink those calories down..the easiest way to go.. okay are you into bodybuilding..or doin sports or anything first.. im a basketball player, typical point guard explosiveness and power is what i am looking for, i do HIIT sprint one day, follow by a jumping HIIT, not much strength training, only barbell and bench press HIIT session last 15-20 minutes, and TONS of running and jumping I eat around 3000kcal per day, off day around 2500kcal + do steady cardio for 30 minutes bodyfat around 12% |
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Mar 21 2009, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 21 2009, 08:06 PM) yeah i eat a lot of white rice and eggs, cause egg is easier for my stomach Mate,im a basketball player, typical point guard explosiveness and power is what i am looking for, i do HIIT sprint one day, follow by a jumping HIIT, not much strength training, only barbell and bench press HIIT session last 15-20 minutes, and TONS of running and jumping I eat around 3000kcal per day, off day around 2500kcal + do steady cardio for 30 minutes bodyfat around 12% where are you located. I know what you need. HIIT wouldn't suffice your needs for explosiveness. Ever done burpees? Ever done shuttle sprints? What about rope pullups? Stuffs like these generate explosiveness. PM me if you want to train together with us every Monday evening. |
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Mar 21 2009, 10:33 PM
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hi all gym-pro out there,
i have been working out for almost 1 year.. every part of my body is progressively getting better into shape.. chest...ok.. bicep..in shape tricep...visible.. abs.....still need improvement but i'm still satisfied with its progress.. back...getting wider.. but when it comes to deltoid (both anterior and posterior) muscle... so disappointed.. why.. i have tried all of the steps that can be found in youtube.. for instance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKW8S9GCo2M but my deltoid muscle still looks small.. and the line/shape/tome of my shoulder is still not visible... some times i feel that my bicep+tricep is even larger than my deltoid.. some some more it looks weird on a person that has wide chest but small shoulder.. how come it's like that de?? i do follow the high-protein-low-carbo diet. and some more increased the weight and times of the deltoid-routine.. still no use... can anyone help me?? my stat is 177 cm and 62 kg, if its relavant ... (p/s: sorry for the poor description as english is my thrid language) (p/s 2: as i'm using the gym facility of my uni, i dont have any workout instructor to ask for advice....pathetic me..) This post has been edited by pgboy_serdang: Mar 21 2009, 10:45 PM |
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Mar 21 2009, 11:17 PM
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it will be much better if u include ur pic for us to see and comment.
u can exclude ur face if u dont want us to know who u r This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 21 2009, 11:17 PM |
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Mar 21 2009, 11:24 PM
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pic says a thousand words...
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Mar 21 2009, 11:30 PM
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What about your legs, are you satisfied with them?
And what's your shoulder routine like? I'm sure we're all interested in that. If it really really can't grow, ultimately it might just be because of your genetics... |
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Mar 21 2009, 11:32 PM
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Do you do shrugs?
They are right,a picture is required! |
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Mar 22 2009, 12:14 AM
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JonYeap & yeezai =
pic ar?? coz i do not have my camera with me, i left it in my hometown.. h/p camera, no quality... then if borrow from fren to take pic of body, feels a bit weird... haha... will find a way soon... wallpaper89 = legs, good question, as my uni's gym lacks training equipment for legs, so i depend on cycling and swimming to tone them up lo.. my shoulder routine is more or less like the youtube video attached.. genetics... means i'm fated not to have firm shoulder?? haha pedro = i did do shrug for 1 month plus, but it makes my traps and neck thicker.. so i stop this routine, coz think i'll look weird with small shoulder but big trap and thick neck.. This post has been edited by pgboy_serdang: Mar 22 2009, 12:16 AM |
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Mar 22 2009, 12:19 AM
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Hehe I got opposite problem with you. I got nice shoulders but flat chest so it looks kinda weird, so I know exactly how you feel about it!
Depends what's your body type lah. And don't forget to up the weights once your muscles gets bored with it! As for building your legs, you can do weighted calf raises with dumbbells, and you can do squats if you have access to barbells and racks. Or just use a dumbbell instead haha. I'm no pro so I can't give much useful advice. Sorry! And posting a pic would help. It might be that your delts aren't really as bad as you think they are! |
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Mar 22 2009, 12:43 AM
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Do dumbell flyes, bent over flyes, bent over barbell rows, shoulder presses etc.
Dumbell flyes are very effective for anterior delts, bent over flyes and barbell rows for posterior delts, shoulder presses for overall shoulder. You really need to work all 3 parts, when I started out I was having problems with my anterior delts until I started doing those specific exercises for them. Some exercises you can do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vY-kNDusTA This post has been edited by ~LynX~: Mar 22 2009, 12:51 AM |
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Mar 22 2009, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Mar 21 2009, 08:03 PM) Mate, I used to burpeewhere are you located. I know what you need. HIIT wouldn't suffice your needs for explosiveness. Ever done burpees? Ever done shuttle sprints? What about rope pullups? Stuffs like these generate explosiveness. PM me if you want to train together with us every Monday evening. This is what I have been doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX7pD-CeCvU I sprint a lot, sometimes overtrained without realizing it..yesterday i overtrained again and completely lose my appetite again, can't afford to gulp down a glass of milk gotta take a day off today thanks for your help mate:D |
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Mar 22 2009, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(XmT @ Mar 22 2009, 08:27 AM) I used to burpee Why don't you try Yoga or Pilates in between your HIIT training? You might find the results interesting and you'll probably be more flexible and condition to handle the bouts of sprinting. You may need to try it out for at least a month to see the results though. Just a thought.This is what I have been doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX7pD-CeCvU I sprint a lot, sometimes overtrained without realizing it..yesterday i overtrained again and completely lose my appetite again, can't afford to gulp down a glass of milk gotta take a day off today thanks for your help mate:D |
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Mar 22 2009, 08:54 AM
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hmm i wish i can try that, i simply having problem juggling my game and my work
i do HIIT because it REALLY increase muscle explosiveness and agility, within the shortest time |
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Mar 22 2009, 11:33 AM
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I always work out till i am completely out of energy, which took about 50mins.
but still i nvr feel muscle pain... So, is this symptom good?? a lot ppl said if get muscle pain then will be more effective. |
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Mar 22 2009, 01:56 PM
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pgboy_serdang...
Aiyah... just use the camera phone lah. Cincai can already. Not that we want to see every bulu so clearly also, just want to see the shape of you shoulder only mah. *#*#*#*#*# QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Mar 22 2009, 11:33 AM) I always work out till i am completely out of energy, which took about 50mins. No such thing. DOMS (muslce soreness, it is not 'pain') will decrease after you slowly get used to the training.but still i nvr feel muscle pain... So, is this symptom good?? a lot ppl said if get muscle pain then will be more effective. Normally, I won't have DOMS anymore after about 1-2 weeks into a new workout programme. I think it's a good thing. I take it that my body is continually adapting and growing faster than the workout load. This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Mar 22 2009, 02:11 PM |
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Mar 22 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Mar 22 2009, 11:33 AM) I always work out till i am completely out of energy, which took about 50mins. You have milked your newbie gains. And your body's adapted. So now the soreness is no indication of anything truly significant, except you're working that muscle part.but still i nvr feel muscle pain... So, is this symptom good?? a lot ppl said if get muscle pain then will be more effective. IF you want to have it ache some more, change your rep ranges and weight and sets around. Go from heavy to lighter with more repetitions and more sets. Or go from light to heavy with less repetitions and more sets. Change it around. Do a final set with a dropset method. |
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Mar 22 2009, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 21 2009, 10:36 AM) I think you mean "Pig Out"? It's kinda weird that you only take two fruits a day....I think you're not training hard enough So far been doing front squats for about 4 times now... front squatting 60kgs. however i'm using the cross arm grip. still not used to the clean grip. i think my wrist is not flexible enough.. and also i'm not used to supporting the weights on my front delts. Still do it three times a week. Two max strength sessions. One more power/speed/explosive session with emphasis at the top drive to assist my clean recovery. Trying to front squat 180KG's by December. Rawr! Another 30KG'S more! If you mean better....then I guess the few cues are; 1. Keep chest really high up 2. Use a "clean grip" and push your elbows as high as you possibly can 3. Contract your thighs at the top and keep it contracted all the way down. 4. At the lowest point, explode powerfully upwards. PS: I'm not going to answer what a clean grip is, but I reckon you know what it is. Let's just call it weightlifters grip. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « with the cross grip can support on side delts which seems easier and less tiring too. also when i do the clean grip, seems like the bar is too near my throat.. feels like its choking me. hmmm.. need to work on my clean grip more. think i'll want to incorporate both front and back squat into my leg routine.... Thanks for da tips so far. |
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Mar 22 2009, 09:01 PM
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hey guys...ive just stopped sit ups alltogether..ive had back pains everytime i complete my workout..
now im doing sumthing called ....renegade dumbell rows.... hehehehe....dem... u guys should try this....hahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah |
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Mar 22 2009, 10:43 PM
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pgboy_serdang, try posting your usual routine for shouders. What exercises, how many sets, how many reps, what's the weight, how much rest do you have in between? Form and proper speed is also important so that the exercises you do are actually hitting your delts, AND encouraging them to grow. Any vids? How often do you work the shoulders? What's your diet like?
And i think ~LynX~ meant reverse dumbbell flyes, he just missed out the 'reverse' word. |
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Mar 22 2009, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 22 2009, 05:59 PM) So far been doing front squats for about 4 times now... front squatting 60kgs. however i'm using the cross arm grip. still not used to the clean grip. i think my wrist is not flexible enough.. and also i'm not used to supporting the weights on my front delts. There's a pocket when you raise your elbows up. This is where the bar should be resting upon. And yes it is EXTREMELY close to your neck, but you'll have to "tahan" the pain. Use an empty bar first, do warm-ups for about 20-30 reps. Find the position, and keep holding it there. Trust me, the clean grip will make a difference.with the cross grip can support on side delts which seems easier and less tiring too. also when i do the clean grip, seems like the bar is too near my throat.. feels like its choking me. hmmm.. need to work on my clean grip more. think i'll want to incorporate both front and back squat into my leg routine.... Thanks for da tips so far. QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 22 2009, 09:01 PM) hey guys...ive just stopped sit ups alltogether..ive had back pains everytime i complete my workout.. They get pretty normal after a while. Then you can try bear crawls. That's one heckofva upperbody workout.now im doing sumthing called ....renegade dumbell rows.... hehehehe....dem... u guys should try this....hahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah Added on March 22, 2009, 10:45 pmAND WHAT? Nobody has anything to say about this? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/973070 This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Mar 22 2009, 10:45 PM |
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Mar 22 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 22 2009, 10:44 PM) There's a pocket when you raise your elbows up. This is where the bar should be resting upon. And yes it is EXTREMELY close to your neck, but you'll have to "tahan" the pain. Use an empty bar first, do warm-ups for about 20-30 reps. Find the position, and keep holding it there. Trust me, the clean grip will make a difference. Is the "pocket" the part with the bone? thats gonna friggin hurt.... resting the weight on muscle shd be fine... but resting on the bone is insane... otherwise, where is the "pocket"? |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:03 AM
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heheh..front squat is painful wan...till u become used to it...i wanna develop my shoulders more then the " pocket" easier to tahan the weight...
if im not mistaken...the bar is on the ridge between the clavicle and the anterior deltoid... its only visible when u cross ur arms..then lift ur arms while crossed and press them towards ur chest... incidentally...thats the position u do front squats with... oh yea...front squats require a rack...for the heavy weights.... cant seem to see how u gonna get 80kgs on your shoulders with ur arms like that................................................or am i wrong...my inferences...... |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 23 2009, 12:03 AM) heheh..front squat is painful wan...till u become used to it...i wanna develop my shoulders more then the " pocket" easier to tahan the weight... cross my arms? thats the cross grip. i can do that rather ok for now.... i'm asking bout the clean grip. meaning arms not crossed.if im not mistaken...the bar is on the ridge between the clavicle and the anterior deltoid... its only visible when u cross ur arms..then lift ur arms while crossed and press them towards ur chest... incidentally...thats the position u do front squats with... oh yea...front squats require a rack...for the heavy weights.... cant seem to see how u gonna get 80kgs on your shoulders with ur arms like that................................................or am i wrong...my inferences...... the front squat is part of oly lifting. they usually clean the weights onto their shoulders then they front squat. by "clean" i mean power clean/ hang clean. can google it if not sure what cleans are. the pocket i'm asking is for clean grip style front squat |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:18 AM
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aights.... my bad..
...i havent even started the front cross style stuff.....dont have that damn rack in my room... aih.............u wanna clean then squat................wouldn that hurt ur wrist.... oh yea..any procedures to train ur wrist?..im doing forearm curls...do they help with wrist strenght too? |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:44 AM
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sorry, i have a very n00b question which somehow i cant seems to google the answer out.
wats the number on the cable pull bars? i mean as in they are weighing base on lbs or kg? |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:55 AM
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compare with dumbel la bro... the number say 10..u life a 10 kg dumbell see if it feels the same...if its the same meaning its kg...if its much lighter..then its lbs....
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Mar 23 2009, 08:47 AM
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Not exactly,it can be different,like in CF the dumbells are in Lbs and the plates in kgs.
A way to figure it out is to put more than your bodyweight and then try to pull it down without locking your feet. If you can means its in Lbs. |
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Mar 23 2009, 12:10 PM
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why so complicated?
ask ppl la... hahahah |
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Mar 24 2009, 10:26 AM
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Got a question. When we do an exercise for example the bench press, do we need to extend the arm until it lock at the end or not ? Same goes to squat, do we lock at the end of the move or not. Get what I mean ?
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Mar 24 2009, 10:52 AM
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Damn, i hurt my back while benching LMAO
QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 10:26 AM) Got a question. When we do an exercise for example the bench press, do we need to extend the arm until it lock at the end or not ? Same goes to squat, do we lock at the end of the move or not. Get what I mean ? Do u mean pausing?Squats it's definately better to pause at the bottom if u can... don't think so that's the case for benching. |
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Mar 24 2009, 11:02 AM
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Nope, I don't mean pause. I mean stand straight in squat and push your hand straight in bench press or shoulder press. So it locks. Btw I think I cannot pause when I am at the bottom during squat. For sure, I cannot push the weight back up. It's better for me to pause at standing position.
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Mar 24 2009, 11:05 AM
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Nope,no joint lockout,it will be hard on the joints in the long rug.
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Mar 24 2009, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 10:26 AM) Got a question. When we do an exercise for example the bench press, do we need to extend the arm until it lock at the end or not ? Same goes to squat, do we lock at the end of the move or not. Get what I mean ? In powerlifting, a lift isn't counted, until you lockout. Also in weightlifting, a jerk doesn't count till you lockout. In bodybuilding.....hmmm...here's where it's a little different. I'll list it;Lockout: -You work your whole tricep heads -It looks better -You strengthen your shoulders and joints and ligaments +isometric strength No lockout: -Your muscles work harder with more lactic acid buildup -More tear, probably more muscular development In the squats, if it's light, don't lock out. If it's heavy and you wanna get stronger, lockout. This "rest" period helps you get more weights moved. SO you choose what you want. |
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Mar 24 2009, 12:00 PM
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so lock will strengten your joints ? I need to study more on these, cause I have weak shoulder joint.
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i have a prob which is lack of plate, coz im doing weight lifting at home... i do have a total weight plate around 20++ kg.. to get a lean body, what should i do? increase rep? usually, i did my routine for example, squat : 20kg x 5 set x 15.. lately, i dont feel any soreness and feel like my muscles were not growing.. huhu.. any ideas?
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Mar 24 2009, 12:39 PM
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change the temp of ur routine.
do a different type of workout. maybe change the sets and reps. coz ur body is now use to ur normal workout. thats why u dont feel anything. |
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Mar 24 2009, 12:39 PM
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hmm..dude..i had the same problem as u..buy more plates la.....
if cant...ikat rice bag.... hahahi hv about 40kg of plates... another 20 coming soon! |
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Mar 24 2009, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 11:02 AM) Nope, I don't mean pause. I mean stand straight in squat and push your hand straight in bench press or shoulder press. So it locks. Btw I think I cannot pause when I am at the bottom during squat. For sure, I cannot push the weight back up. It's better for me to pause at standing position. Time to reduce ur weight and squat properly instead of yoyo-bouncing ur way up and down. |
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Mar 24 2009, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 24 2009, 12:39 PM) hmm..dude..i had the same problem as u..buy more plates la..... waaa.. then pokai la.. need to buy plate from time to time.. if cant...ikat rice bag.... hahahi hv about 40kg of plates... another 20 coming soon! that's why i need a method to overcome that prob.. for now.. im just increasing my rep.. so i can feel the soreness.. really miss that feeling when i couldnt lift up my hand coz of muslce sore... ... but now.. even i do bicep curl, 20kg x 8 set x 8.. i dont feel anything the other day.. huhuh... |
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Mar 24 2009, 02:36 PM
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WOAH, bicep curl for 20kg. Is it 20kg each hand ?
Only way for u is add weight. Or you can ask someone sit on your neck for squat |
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Mar 24 2009, 02:51 PM
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20kg bicep curl? =.=
u must be damn strong... |
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Mar 24 2009, 02:51 PM
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ops.. sorry.. barbell bicep curl.. hehehe.. with damn slow motion..
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Mar 24 2009, 04:26 PM
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ahahhaha 20kg bicep curl..not too bad..including bar?... if not including bar means..same as me... ahhaha.. but can complete 3x5 only..
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Mar 24 2009, 04:41 PM
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barbell... =.=
hahaha... i thought u say 20kg bicep curl and no feel... u must be a strong guy then if so |
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Mar 24 2009, 04:54 PM
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hhahaha.. my bad.. hahaha... but, that is my prob rite now.. without that 'feel', i feel like.. oh shittt... what am i doin yesterday?.. u know what i mean..
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Mar 24 2009, 07:50 PM
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yeah we got cha...
hmmm... try doing a different routine to give ur body the "shock". coz ur body is use to wat u r doing, it becomes "familiar". but try alter ur routine or method to stir things up Added on March 24, 2009, 7:50 pmjust my opinion... could be wrong. =.= wait for the experience ones to answer. =.= This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 24 2009, 07:50 PM |
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Mar 24 2009, 08:56 PM
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i tot.. wit increasing rep and set will shock our body...
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Mar 24 2009, 09:00 PM
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There are many ways to shock the body.......
Ranging from changing reps and sets. Changing entire exercise routine from splits to full body workout. Using complexes. And a lot more..... The trick is to do something that your body isn't used to. |
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Mar 24 2009, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 11:02 AM) Nope, I don't mean pause. I mean stand straight in squat and push your hand straight in bench press or shoulder press. So it locks. Btw I think I cannot pause when I am at the bottom during squat. For sure, I cannot push the weight back up. It's better for me to pause at standing position. some say lockout will hurt the joint, some say no, but i always lockout, if not i dont have energy to push next reps,QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 24 2009, 12:15 PM) i have a prob which is lack of plate, coz im doing weight lifting at home... i do have a total weight plate around 20++ kg.. to get a lean body, what should i do? increase rep? usually, i did my routine for example, squat : 20kg x 5 set x 15.. lately, i dont feel any soreness and feel like my muscles were not growing.. huhu.. any ideas? what is your bodyweight?, for those who train for more than 6 month, who can probably squat at least 0.75-1x of their bodyweightedit : typo even you do 5x50x20kg, the result compared with 5x10x100kg is still a huge diff. so join a gym is best solution. try find some ghetto gym |
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Mar 24 2009, 09:21 PM
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Damnn.. as i expected.. there r no other ways.. huhu..
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Mar 24 2009, 11:31 PM
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good luck sprix.
i bet there are gym nearby. if not, then u got to take initiative to find. if really dont want, then figure a way to shock ur body. =.= |
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Mar 25 2009, 03:12 PM
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hey doing price survey here
one pair of 10kg dumbbells wad's the market price? planning to get it at fitness concept...afraid kena rip off |
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Mar 25 2009, 03:29 PM
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saw a promotion somewhere in newspaper.. around 69.90.. for 10 kg maxx dumbbell...
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Mar 25 2009, 03:58 PM
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hmmm.. i know one shop in seremban...10kg rubberized 60+...all other rubberized more ex...
15kg 69 buks also..non rubberized |
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Mar 25 2009, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 25 2009, 03:29 PM) saw a promotion somewhere in newspaper.. around 69.90.. for 10 kg maxx dumbbell... yah it is fitness concept ads...i think it mean 1 pc so a pair would cost rm 140....fair price?QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 25 2009, 03:58 PM) hmmm.. i know one shop in seremban...10kg rubberized 60+...all other rubberized more ex... it is cheaper den fitness concept....maxx db is not rubberized summore 15kg 69 buks also..non rubberized  too bad dat i selangor ppl the shop got any branch in selangor? wad name btw... |
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Mar 26 2009, 04:15 AM
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Hi all,
Im new in bodybuilding.. i have a question.. Should i eat a lot of carbs during my rest day? coz i tot it might be unnecessary to eat a lot if we dun use a lot of energy? |
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Mar 26 2009, 04:37 AM
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not many people here into abs exercise, but anybody doing advanced abs exercise? its too boring with sit ups and leg raises now.
im thinking of hanging wipers or dragon flag.... Chow |
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Mar 26 2009, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 04:37 AM) not many people here into abs exercise, but anybody doing advanced abs exercise? its too boring with sit ups and leg raises now. me.. me.. we r in the same boat bro.. im thinking of hanging wipers or dragon flag.... Chow i oso into abs exercise.. but, no advance exercise so far.. crunch, sit ups, just the same exercise as yours.. but i have a prob here.. my lower abs got a layer of stubborn fat, which is REALLY..REALLY DAMN HARD to get rid.. any suggestion? edit:typo ..Damn!!This post has been edited by sprix: Mar 26 2009, 08:38 AM |
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Mar 26 2009, 08:59 AM
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situp won't burn your fat much compared to cardio or HIIT
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Mar 26 2009, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 04:37 AM) not many people here into abs exercise, but anybody doing advanced abs exercise? its too boring with sit ups and leg raises now. Have you seen the exercises in The Truth About 6 Pack Abs?im thinking of hanging wipers or dragon flag.... Chow They have different levels of exercises depending on how fit a person is. I can send it to your email of you want it. |
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Mar 26 2009, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 04:37 AM) not many people here into abs exercise, but anybody doing advanced abs exercise? its too boring with sit ups and leg raises now. Hanging windshield wipers, surprisingly, not as difficult. Dragon flag, not human. Two reps is all you need for it to hurt so badly for 2-3 daysim thinking of hanging wipers or dragon flag.... Chow QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 26 2009, 08:37 AM) me.. me.. we r in the same boat bro.. Wha? You're thinking that sit-ups will help lose fat around the belly area? Wrong my friend. i oso into abs exercise.. but, no advance exercise so far.. crunch, sit ups, just the same exercise as yours.. but i have a prob here.. my lower abs got a layer of stubborn fat, which is REALLY..REALLY DAMN HARD to get rid.. any suggestion? edit:typo ..Damn!! |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:22 PM
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eeeeeeeeeeeevvvveeerrryyyyyyyyybody wana have those 6 packs, but aint nobody wana do no proper dieting. or do no cardio.
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Mar 26 2009, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(yop da great @ Mar 26 2009, 04:15 AM) Hi all, No...Im new in bodybuilding.. i have a question.. Should i eat a lot of carbs during my rest day? coz i tot it might be unnecessary to eat a lot if we dun use a lot of energy? We eat less on rest days compared to training days. |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:33 PM
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6 packs really need a hell loads of discipline. =.=
cant get it by sitting there eating like normal doing no cardio. agree with u registry. but again... not everyone has the good genes to get nice 6 packs rite? |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:34 PM
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Nope.. im doing cardio everyday... set my heart beat levet to at least 65% from normal.. for at least 20 minutes.. Usually, my average heart beat during cardio was around 150-160 per minutes.. but still... toooo hard to eliminate those lower abs fat.. plus.. abs exercise after cardio session..
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Mar 26 2009, 12:36 PM
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i want them 6 pekz.....am gonna diet properly and am gonna cardio to hell...
will start my cardio next week.... planning to go all out..bloody tummy friggin pissing me off man................. hmm..oh ya.... just did 60kg straight back straight leg deadlifts... and 20kg dumbell rows.....each hand! hehehehe |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:38 PM
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Getting it is one thing, maintaining it is a diff story altogether.
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Mar 26 2009, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 26 2009, 12:36 PM) i want them 6 pekz.....am gonna diet properly and am gonna cardio to hell... what are db rows?will start my cardio next week.... planning to go all out..bloody tummy friggin pissing me off man................. hmm..oh ya.... just did 60kg straight back straight leg deadlifts... and 20kg dumbell rows.....each hand! hehehehe one arm row u mean? 20kg pretty good.... |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 26 2009, 08:37 AM) me.. me.. we r in the same boat bro.. its long time i abandon those exercise. im doing straight leg raises, hang on the pull up bar and your feet touch the bar. i oso into abs exercise.. but, no advance exercise so far.. crunch, sit ups, just the same exercise as yours.. but i have a prob here.. my lower abs got a layer of stubborn fat, which is REALLY..REALLY DAMN HARD to get rid.. any suggestion? edit:typo ..Damn!!its a gymnast exercise QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Mar 26 2009, 09:11 AM) Have you seen the exercises in The Truth About 6 Pack Abs? who's the author ya?They have different levels of exercises depending on how fit a person is. I can send it to your email of you want it. QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 26 2009, 10:23 AM) Hanging windshield wipers, surprisingly, not as difficult. Dragon flag, not human. Two reps is all you need for it to hurt so badly for 2-3 days will try tonight. actually already done this in fitness test, sore like 2-3 days....wakaa...damn brutall Wha? You're thinking that sit-ups will help lose fat around the belly area? Wrong my friend. QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 26 2009, 12:33 PM) 6 packs really need a hell loads of discipline. =.= the level of visibility is not the same even the same bodyfat.cant get it by sitting there eating like normal doing no cardio. agree with u registry. but again... not everyone has the good genes to get nice 6 packs rite? Hidetada Yamagishi can go down to like 4% BF, but his abs only slightly visible Chow |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 12:43 PM) the level of visibility is not the same even the same bodyfat. bcos not enuff ab workout?Hidetada Yamagishi can go down to like 4% BF, but his abs only slightly visible Chow |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:48 PM
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haha... 4% bf. =.=
madness... i would be smiling to even reach 14%. muahaha... now i think 20 plus % This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 26 2009, 12:49 PM |
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Mar 26 2009, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2009, 12:46 PM) bcos not enuff ab workout? not sure, have to ask him...haha..Young Hide here Chow |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:03 PM
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Perhaps.. gen is the main factor here... not everybody can get those 6 DAMN pek.. huhu..
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Mar 26 2009, 01:04 PM
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yea... one arm rows... 20kgs.... 3x5 reps for left ..2x5 reps for right..
hmmm... just got 2 more 10kg plates. ehheheheh... now my maximum weightage is 70kgs... will try my 70kg deadlift and 60kg bench press today ehhehehehehheheheh... cant wait! GRR |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:06 PM
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errr... just curious.
is one arm rows that hard? got to be honest, i think its not too hard. of coz i am talking correct form. =.= |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:12 PM
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some motivation for ya'll
 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showga...2830983&cat=500 damn,his body is like,no fat at all  |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:16 PM
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his chest is not... errr... how do i say? bulky enough? haha... if its bigger, would be better.
but there is a big gap in between his abs... looks weird. |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 26 2009, 01:06 PM) errr... just curious. All rows are hard...is one arm rows that hard? got to be honest, i think its not too hard. of coz i am talking correct form. =.= i hate barbell rows, one arm row, t bar rows... I find myself finding excuses not to go gym sometimes because it's back day. I prefer chest day.... but chest is also my weakest. I dunno why my bench press is so low, i only bench 70kg (3RM)... but i can barbell row 70kg 5RM... weird huh? but nvm lah... i used to be that fat kid who couldn't do push ups.. and when i started, i can barely bench 20kg... so, it's improvement |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:27 PM
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king..whats your height and weight....
i think rows are not painful......even after i did 20kg one arm rows not too bad... and i did them slow up slow down..no jerking.... but when i do bent over barbell rows...shit....this one suck like hell... first set 35kgs.... x7 then... 40kg pain adi.... second set can only do 5... then third 40kg can only do 3 rep......died....last rep only can lift above knee.. cant touch my stomach anymore... but my back ...the soreness feel different... not pain wan...just like stiff only... aih......... |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:32 PM
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icic... thanks for the info.
haha... i will check wats mine next time. havent start doing all this rows thing. i tried 30kg one arm row though. 6-8 reps. maybe i am cheating. =.= |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:32 PM
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i'm 180cm, 101kg
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Mar 26 2009, 01:34 PM
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hmmm....aite...too much bodyweight difference....
im 178cm 70kgs... will post my updated pic later after my workout.. |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 26 2009, 01:34 PM) hmmm....aite...too much bodyweight difference.... u're an ectomorph?im 178cm 70kgs... will post my updated pic later after my workout.. |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:39 PM
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King,Endo right?
Train your chest harder man,i normally start dropsets at 70kgs for 15 reps. |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:40 PM
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hmmm..i thought im ecto..but....................................more of a meso i think..... im not that thin...
my journal... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/915902/+80... will update ltr |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:41 PM
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I'm not endo...
I'm a fat meso |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 26 2009, 01:39 PM) King,Endo right? You START a dropset at 70KG'S for 15?Train your chest harder man,i normally start dropsets at 70kgs for 15 reps. I tried 70KG'S for 20 reps and I couldn't even drive back home. (That was months ago when I still benched) How do you even open a door with that sort of dropset?? |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:47 PM
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It's cool...
I've been benching 60kg for a year before i finally broke the plateau and into the 70kg category. Just gotta keep at it.... |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:47 PM
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aites... hahaha.... no worries..we all got our goals...
cant wait to start my cardio regime...i think its time to lose the tummy fat... been bulking for two months..i think i put on about 1.5kgs... ive got a beach trip on 27th of april...so i need to start getting lean..cant afford d tummy mates...... i can definitely feel the last pair of pecs...... can see four already... so i just need to work of the fat ...and bulk slightly... hehehe..should not be a problem... only thing that will suck is the cut down on nice yummy food.... its gonna be 1 solid meal per day with low amount of carbs...higher protein... then the rest supplemented with egg...whey and oats... wonder what would the effect be on my body... i will start with todays pic as the before .....see what 1 month of cutting can do yea? |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:54 PM
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Me too.... I'm happy with my size already.
I just wanna lean out a lil... but i'm so lazy when it comes to cardio -.-" |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 26 2009, 01:44 PM) You START a dropset at 70KG'S for 15? Guess my pecs are used to it by now,when i used to train ghetto style i used to start at 115 for 20 reps,but that was 3 years ago and i had training partners back then.I tried 70KG'S for 20 reps and I couldn't even drive back home. (That was months ago when I still benched) How do you even open a door with that sort of dropset?? |
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Mar 26 2009, 01:56 PM
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hey guys..care to clarify what is a drop set..?
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Mar 26 2009, 02:00 PM
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should i get a bench set? my room lack of space and the benching set seems to be large
i cant bench, basically i just lift weight .. tried benching on the side bed, but it's hard to bench properly anyone workout at home? |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:04 PM
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Dropset means u do several sets without rest but u reduce the weight by a set amount after each sets
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 26 2009, 01:56 PM) hey guys..care to clarify what is a drop set..? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par44.htmHere is your prescription for an advanced drop set workout. We will use chest as the example workout. Be forewarned, this workout will have your pecs begging for mercy. * Start with a good compound movement such as incline barbell bench press. Load the bar with a nice warm up weight you can handle for 15-20 reps. I will use 135 as an example, but you can start with whatever weight you have to-95, 115. This will be your "base weight", meaning that it will be the last weight you use on all subsequent sets. * After completing one set with this weight, move up to a weight you can do 12-15 reps with (185 will be the example). Immediately after doing this set, strip off the 25 pound plate and rep out 135 to failure. * Then choose a weight you can do for 10-12 reps (225). After completing this set, drop to 185 to failure then drop again to 135 to failure. * Then do the same method until you can't increase anymore - this is usually around progressive drop set number 5 for me. i hate drop set |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:12 PM
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oh..........my................god.........................................wanna die ar.................CRAZY SHIT!!!
I WANNA DO IT NOW!! MWHWHWHHWHAHAHAHAH but my base is dem light la..i think 40kg only...... faiz...u do 90kg bench presses?....... |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 26 2009, 02:12 PM) oh..........my................god.........................................wanna die ar.................CRAZY SHIT!!! no,that one i quote from bb.comI WANNA DO IT NOW!! MWHWHWHHWHAHAHAHAH but my base is dem light la..i think 40kg only...... faiz...u do 90kg bench presses?....... i can do 80kg for 8 reps only my chest and my shoulder is my lagging body part.so yeah |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:17 PM
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80kg is hell a lot de. =.= for ur size...
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Mar 26 2009, 02:18 PM
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80kg still pretty good.... my chest is the worst...... 50kgs........ aih...should be able to do 60..well thats for today
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Mar 26 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 26 2009, 02:17 PM) 80kg is hell a lot de. =.= for ur size... not really, most of the time i can see ppl bench that 80kg 15reps like nothing only well,guys,anybody tried GVT? its GermanVolumeTraining. it works for my chest and my shoulder,but not for my back. its a good routine i guess. ithink u guys can try it after doing HVT for a month or more |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:24 PM
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i am trying out MAX OT for now... is it any good?
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Mar 26 2009, 02:24 PM
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80kg benchers 15reps like nothing...what u in sum MSN college...or ROID gym izzit...
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Mar 26 2009, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 26 2009, 12:33 PM) 6 packs really need a hell loads of discipline. =.= yea, not easy as we tends to use our fat to protect our abs, from impact? cant get it by sitting there eating like normal doing no cardio. agree with u registry. but again... not everyone has the good genes to get nice 6 packs rite? QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2009, 12:38 PM) Getting it is one thing, maintaining it is a diff story altogether. agree, getting 6pack is jz the beginning... maintaining it is the real thing... no yummy food ur taste bud QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 12:43 PM) its long time i abandon those exercise. im doing straight leg raises, hang on the pull up bar and your feet touch the bar. Mike Gearyits a gymnast exercise who's the author ya? QUOTE(faiz92 @ Mar 26 2009, 01:12 PM) some motivation for ya'll err... the middle of the abs is lik got an opening? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showga...2830983&cat=500 damn,his body is like,no fat at all looks weird, if not cz of the 'opening', it looks cool QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Mar 26 2009, 02:00 PM) should i get a bench set? my room lack of space and the benching set seems to be large i am working out at home currently... err... to b exact, at room... hav a pairs of 15kgs dumbell, inclined sit-up bench, and matt, but still... if really into BB, gym is a must... gonna start hitting my sch gym soon i cant bench, basically i just lift weight .. tried benching on the side bed, but it's hard to bench properly anyone workout at home? QUOTE(faiz92 @ Mar 26 2009, 02:05 PM) http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par44.htm it sounds... hardcore... Here is your prescription for an advanced drop set workout. We will use chest as the example workout. Be forewarned, this workout will have your pecs begging for mercy. * Start with a good compound movement such as incline barbell bench press. Load the bar with a nice warm up weight you can handle for 15-20 reps. I will use 135 as an example, but you can start with whatever weight you have to-95, 115. This will be your "base weight", meaning that it will be the last weight you use on all subsequent sets. * After completing one set with this weight, move up to a weight you can do 12-15 reps with (185 will be the example). Immediately after doing this set, strip off the 25 pound plate and rep out 135 to failure. * Then choose a weight you can do for 10-12 reps (225). After completing this set, drop to 185 to failure then drop again to 135 to failure. * Then do the same method until you can't increase anymore - this is usually around progressive drop set number 5 for me. i hate drop set  |
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Mar 26 2009, 02:30 PM
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haha... vincent... kia... next week gym. i gonna force u smack hard hard... kaka
Added on March 26, 2009, 2:31 pm QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 26 2009, 02:24 PM) 80kg benchers 15reps like nothing...what u in sum MSN college...or ROID gym izzit... actually in mmu... there are many ppl doing 80kg. some even go up to 100kg i think.i rarely seen ppl bench 80kgs....... This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 26 2009, 02:31 PM |
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