Bodybuilding Bodybuilding Thread V5, Lets pump some blood into some muscles
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 Mar 10 2009, 01:13 PM
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Oly barbell is 20kg.
Previous few post I read also damn lawak. 5kg per side lah, 15kg per side lah, 40kg per side lah... saya pun terkonfius. =P Why not just use the total weight, barbell (20kg) + both sides? |
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Mar 11 2009, 06:37 PM
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You mean the shorter bar? (I can't remember if it's 15 or 18kg)
That's not an oly barbell, that's a retard-bar. Short and retarded... like me! X^D |
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Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM
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Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei!
I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them. ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy. Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D |
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Mar 20 2009, 01:28 AM
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Weight gainers very the expensive oh.
Can cut cost by mixing whey with carbs/oats/glucose what. BTW, anybody tried mixing sucrose (normal sugar) instead of glucose/dextrose into whey for pre- & during workout drink? (I don't have glucose with me right now) Is the effect the same? I reckon sugar is pretty much a simple carb and easily digested anyway. |
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Mar 20 2009, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 20 2009, 01:48 AM) sucrose i think is considered an empty calorie.. Sucrose is 1 molecule of glucose/dextrose + 1 molecule of furctose.so i dun think its wise to add sucrose in? might be wrong tho.. dextrose and some other sugars are used in products like vitargo tho.. so they might have beneficial effects..  They are all empty calories (which provide quick energy). =D I just wanted to know have anybody tried sugar + whey as pre- & during workout shake, and if it's the same as using glucose. |
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Mar 22 2009, 01:56 PM
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pgboy_serdang...
Aiyah... just use the camera phone lah. Cincai can already. Not that we want to see every bulu so clearly also, just want to see the shape of you shoulder only mah. *#*#*#*#*# QUOTE(Dark Lord @ Mar 22 2009, 11:33 AM) I always work out till i am completely out of energy, which took about 50mins. No such thing. DOMS (muslce soreness, it is not 'pain') will decrease after you slowly get used to the training.but still i nvr feel muscle pain...  So, is this symptom good?? a lot ppl said if get muscle pain then will be more effective. Normally, I won't have DOMS anymore after about 1-2 weeks into a new workout programme. I think it's a good thing. I take it that my body is continually adapting and growing faster than the workout load. This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Mar 22 2009, 02:11 PM |
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Mar 27 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 26 2009, 08:46 PM) Eh please, weightlifting is clean and jerk and snatch competition. These guys talking bench presses. Tak berkaitan with me. Okay what, at least they're talking about lifting. Nobody asking about "Should I eat turtle eggs or chihuahua eggs?" Ooooh, me LUUURRRV chihuahua eggs.I almost fell off the chair laughing! |
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Mar 27 2009, 11:10 PM
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You can dumbbell press more than barbell military press?!
You sure you got the numbers correct or not? Last week I gatal go and try same weight... my arms almost fell off my shoulders. =P |
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Apr 5 2009, 09:03 PM
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Err... Velocity Diet in T-nation?
Lots of hype! But dunno got substance or not. |
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Apr 7 2009, 06:10 PM
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Nice leh the abs wheelie?!
Abs sore now? Eh heheheheh BTW, where did you buy it? For how much. I lost my old one. |
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Apr 7 2009, 08:32 PM
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RM30? So Cheap? I'm gonna go buy it.
Last time I asked the shop NEXT TO Fitness Concept in MidValley, the ciput shop quoted me RM100 for exactly the same stuff I can buy for RM30 in Bintang supermarket. I can't access Youtube from my place. I remember there was a video on how to do the abs wheelie. The thigh must be 90 degrees to the floor when you are up so that you don't use your legs to pull yourself back. And the back should be rounded a little at all times to prevent injuries. Is this the video? |
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Apr 7 2009, 09:03 PM
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I dunno lah. To me all the bicep curls are same-same. Not that you can curl sideways, or the grip width will affect the muscles involved. =P
So I just do the hammer curl so that I can work the forearms at the same time. I'm so lazy. BTW Jamis, it uses the Preacher curl bench. Most gyms have the preacher curl bench. It's almost mandatory... no one would go to a gym that doesn't make it easy to do bicep curls. Most people only want to BP and bicep curl.  This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Apr 7 2009, 09:06 PM |
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Apr 9 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2009, 09:00 PM) You know...can I use this example again? Okay I'll use it. Boxers and a lot of MMA fighters who move up a weight class, actually do it via conditioning circuits? It is probably the only way they will move up a weight class. Conditioning as in those in Ross Training's Magic 50 and No Excuses stuff?This is because bigger boxers have bigger punches but also high conditioning levels. To get stronger but lose your conditioning is akin to buying a riced up R34 without petrol. Cardio isn't wrong for bulking. It's just excessive cardio that kills it. That's why conditioning circuits are always gold. Are there any other conditioning exercises? QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 8 2009, 09:06 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Basically we're supposed do some serious HIIT lah. Damn, I've been neglecting cardio for so long. No wonder my belly is starting to become more and more boroi! --- That Satterwhite article mentioned this: QUOTE And because contracting muscle has an insulting-like action (you probably call it the "pump"), all the extra movement from the cardio will be drawing more IGF-I in to cells. So it would be wise to find some type of cardio that uses a lot of different muscle groups. You guys reckon running is enough for "a lot of different muscle groups"? Running HIIT plus some conditioning work? |
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Apr 9 2009, 01:10 AM
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Now only you share!
*smacks Mofonyx in the head with a dumbbell. Heh heh heh! But still, thanks again. |
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Apr 9 2009, 03:15 PM
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No lah, not spasm lah. It's the soreness. Zeist is nut case. =P
I'm sure some of you have heard of the Tough Guy Challenge in UK. Here's some photos of the 2009 on Feb 1st. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/t...lenge_2009.html Nasty stuff! Running over fire, crawling under barbed wire, crawling across rope, swim in freezing cold mud, etc... 600 hypothermia cases during the competition. Can you survive the Tough Guys Challenge? P.S. Check out pic #14 for Borat. |
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Apr 10 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Apr 10 2009, 01:22 AM) just wanna rant Eh, apa dier cakap untuk reduce the ketat-ness?i think gym took its toll on me as i love squats and barbell bend over rows, now i gotta go for physio for my lumbar (cant do perfect form with belts so i skipped belts) damn it...the specialist said my back muscles is too ketat...luckily it aint slip disc hahaha...and did i mention the ubat for back pain and tendonitis costs my insurance company about rm100 per week haha Stretching ke? Foam rolling ke? I wonder if over-emphasis of squats and deadlift can cause lordosis? |
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Apr 10 2009, 02:36 PM
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When you hold a barbell, it's a closed system (well, semi closed). You could just squeeze the pecs or the lats to stabilise it --> so you mainly stabilise it in 1 plane. You are stabilising 1 weight with 2 points.
Dumbbells are so different. Each side is a single balancing system. each is an open system. You stabilise 1 weight with 1 point. You're stabilising the weight in 2 planes of dimension (2D). It's hard (at least for me). I can only DB BP 25% of my barbell bench. =P |
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Apr 10 2009, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 10 2009, 03:17 PM) Skill and strength transfer is different individually based on a person's neural efficiency, how many motor pathways they can recruit, etc. Which is why there'll never be a fixed formula for bb/db comparison. Alamak, kena taruh. X^DThat's what i've been trying to drill into beginners' heads. Not that most listen. Bodybuilding = about feel, not about fixed formulas and routines. I'd give my left nut if there is any IFBB Pro doing 5 x 5 or 6 x 6 or calculating his next 1RM max, etc. I couldn't grasp this feel and instintive thingamagick very clearly yet. I mean, there has got to be certain guidelines that are used in instinctive training. I went through your current journal to figure out how you do your HVT and I'm still  .For example: Picasso. He certainly didn't start drawing Cubism the first time he started drawing. He would have learned conventional methods and basic rules of painting, before he became pro and broke the rules. So in bodybuilding, how do I get from noob-state to instinctive training like you do? --- Hmmm, 5x5... sound like me.  |
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Apr 10 2009, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 10 2009, 05:23 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I'm not trying to be an ass or a bigoted fool. I was just being the devil's advocate by using the Picasso example.  But I really want to know how do I get from noob to instinctive training? I certainly understand the the concept and the advantages of instinctive training. And I want to start doing it. But, err... how do I get about it? Or rather, how did you first started doing it? It's simple, but that doesn't make it easy to jump into with no knowledge. =) |
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Apr 10 2009, 11:17 PM
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Darklight...
Errr, well yeah. I'm mentally nuts sometimes. =P And it's easy to mis-interpret something in text, without tones and emotions of real speech mah. So, I thought I should be a little more cautious. Anyway, haven't answered my questions yet leh... Or should I go kacau you in your journal instead? Heheheh! QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 10 2009, 09:27 PM) I don't have to balls to go heavy with my squats and deadlifts. Reason being the gym I go to isn't very complete, so no squat rack. I'm currently lifting the barbell for squats off the benchpress 'hook'. Hard enough to get it off and then move away from the bench to get into position, let alone add more weight. And I'm not going much heavier for deadlifts because I'm afraid of forsaking form to lift heavier, resulting in me injuring my back. X^D  Same here. I had to use the bench press. I love free weights squats too much... maybe a little too much for my own good. This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Apr 10 2009, 11:30 PM |
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