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gtoforce
post Mar 4 2009, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 4 2009, 07:49 PM)
its ok, i noe i asked too much noob question  sweat.gif

cheers  biggrin.gif
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go to supplement2day.com la
cy8ex promoted the ergopharm products long time ago

havent been in this thread for quite some time and our pro bb guy i.e. pizzaboy already a mod
congrats man

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post Mar 9 2009, 02:17 PM

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just wanna rant
currently bb'ing has been on the low days since my tendonitis
shit
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post Apr 5 2009, 05:13 PM

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dudes
quick question
im at the end of a 3 months of bulking and heavy training and april is my rest month (may - august is cutting period)
for april, i plan to only go gym on weekends to do whole body stuff while most of the time is spent on cardio or nothing

what kind of diet should i prescribe to eh?
last time during bulk, i stick to the 5-7 times of meals per day with the aim of 1g per pound of my bodyweight (now im 191lbs) and lean carbs/fat and good cals (gained from 75kgs - 87kgs in 4-5mnths including the bulk period)

any good diet plans during resting period?
gtoforce
post Apr 10 2009, 01:22 AM

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just wanna rant
i think gym took its toll on me
as i love squats and barbell bend over rows, now i gotta go for physio for my lumbar (cant do perfect form with belts so i skipped belts)
damn it...the specialist said my back muscles is too ketat...luckily it aint slip disc
hahaha...and did i mention the ubat for back pain and tendonitis costs my insurance company about rm100 per week
haha
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post Jul 25 2009, 03:10 AM

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haha
cappuccino bukan fattening ke?
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no barbells is fine by me
whats the max weight of the db?
to me, i hate those resorts and hotels with gyms that have max db weight of 15kgs only
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jul 25 2009, 07:05 PM)
Retarded video, sure they was some trick on the plate tongue.gif

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did u see how the barbell just bounced like that?
haha
im sure the plates' got some tricks there (i mean i squat 50kg's per sides and once it jatuh from my back cuz licin, it did not bounce pun)
kalau tak, sure dis guy's into ifbb already
hahha
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post Jul 26 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(hipopotomose001 @ Jul 26 2009, 06:20 PM)
lol vid is totally fake  icon_idea.gif
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nuff said
hehe
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post Jul 28 2009, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(CatDog @ Jul 27 2009, 01:32 AM)
hi ya all! im not malaysian so please be patient with me if my question seems stupid...

are steroids legal in malaysia?
i asked some people who said they are legal(i mean can be bought in pharmacy) in some states and Illegal in some.

in my country it is ok to have steroids but you can not buy most of them from pharmacy without doctor recommendation. but there are legal companies who you can get steroids however the price is higher than pharmacy. now im stuck in malaysia(no offense.i love it here:) ) and dont know what to do...either i have to buy expensive fake stuff or wait a long time until i return to my country...
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dude
me is a legal officer so take it from me

steroids are legal anywhere else in the world
in malaysia, its not restricted under the akta dadah berbahaya (dangerous drugs act)
please check out i think section 7 and/or section 57 i cant remember

i know where and price for steroids and i've done a concise research on this subject
but its for u to know for u to find out
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discussing the details here will get u banned mind u

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post Jul 28 2009, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 28 2009, 01:22 AM)
legal with prescriptions, illegal if not.
Chow
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depends gak bro
aku tanye senior criminal lawyers the other day
u cant get arrested by the police on the grounds that u carry say, a bottle or 2 of sustanon or ternbolone
of course la kalau bulk load, then its smuggling or drug pushing etc
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(CatDog @ Jul 28 2009, 11:23 AM)
thank you guys.

dont know what people who make these laws think. if they ban things like this, people have to go to underground places and buy these stuff. this is 10 times worse. fake stuff can cause crazy damage to your body.
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underground malaysia still ok bro
cuz all of them got from one source only

outside there is the one u should be taking care of when buying
never buy from websites etc
get from people from the gym itself
at least if anything happens, you know where to go
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 28 2009, 12:46 PM)
There are ways to find out whether a person took steroids or not.
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yeah but some people whom are naturals look like they take steroids too
some of the indications are

1) acne scars on their body (a lot...body acne is purely hormonal albeit sometimes bacterial but usually entails use of hormone treatment etc like steroids)
2) gynecomastia - female boobs on man
3) ultra big - look at ronnie coldman, durian yates, kevin lebrong, etc and compare them with defranco, mentzer and arnie

if u guys look at my posts, i never disagree with the use of steroids cuz i think its just a way of skirting the natural methods but never condone the use of it cuz i myself dont...its expensive, potentially destructive, requires a heap of education on your own, trial and errors, bombs by people in the threads especially in bb.com and t-nation, questionings, and most of all ULTIMATE COURAGE and again EDUCATION
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post Jul 28 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Jul 28 2009, 03:04 PM)
Steroids makes people emo, dunnotwan take steroids.
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its roid rage not emo bro
different...
and its mind over matter...macam chris benoit and some of those wwe's bunoh their families due to roid rage
i think thats due to strees + addiction etc
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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Jul 28 2009, 03:54 PM)
your head. lol. where did you learn that? bodybuilders get emo bcos they are dieting hard or probably on a low carb diet.
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nuff said syed
hehehe
but i think bb'ers emo cuz makan oily food especially when they 'terpaksa' makan at events
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 28 2009, 07:58 PM)
Yea, acne scars is the most obvious to find out whether a person took steroids or not. That does not include face acne scars? Like tiny holes everywhere.
Nais durian. Dorian Yates.  icon_idea.gif


Added on July 28, 2009, 8:04 pmOh yea, saw a young chap only 18 years old, but taller than me. As tall as arabian guy, holy crap he bench press at 80kg (including bar, arabian guy only can bench press at 90kg and he cakap barbell bench press not his cup of tea, lulz!). From what I heard, he only workout for a couple of months, can see he's growing definitely, decent physique and size, nais!. He spoken to arabian guy, but me haven't spoken to him yet (they always come later, pfftttt!). I should learn a thing or two from him.

Based on my observation, apparently a lot of guise in the gym including myself can't do barbell bench press much, don't know WTF is wrong. I know my bench press form is definitely wrong, DB bench press is okay (always do 6 - 7 sets each for both flat and incline). I know if I rely on the barbell bench press, there won't be any koyak orgasm at all.
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look at how i name them
ronnie coldman
kevin lebrong
durian yates
hahaha

its just something to jab at them
they are not 'true' bb'ers like arnie and mentzer era
nuff said there


and i dont think u should worry much about poundages
as long as ur improving thats just fine
worry too much, that'll be the main reason why gym goers quit and i think its ridiculous
i hate the term giving ur self credit etc and all those crap but i'd rather say be patient
give urself 1 year plus
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i've seen people benching 50kg's plates per side (100kg's colelctively) but they all suck at doing it cuz they dont do it full rom
perhaps 40-50% rom

my max is 40kg's per side but i'd rather do a 4-6 reps 100% ROM
just sharing
haha

QUOTE(kotmj @ Jul 28 2009, 11:17 PM)
It's bedtime, and as I'm writing this I'm drinking a glass of full-cream UHT milk + 1 scoop of ON Casein.
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if u kurus, casein's good for u
as for me who's on a clean cut phase, casein's just bad
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Added on July 28, 2009, 11:40 pmbtw saw wong hong played today at anabolic
he also didnt play really heavy
maybe he's on a cutting season kot

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post Jul 29 2009, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Jul 29 2009, 12:22 AM)
My friend in the  UK saw this mat salleh doing 50 kg DB press.
I gotta say that he has certainly "owned" our asses  tongue.gif
Oh yes, what do you guys think about having tandoori and rice as a pre-bed meal?

Tandoori is certainly not oily but the idea of having rice before sleep sounds crazy to my friends.
Just wondering what you guys think.  smile.gif
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ala, i have friends at my gym doing 40kg's dumbbell (thats the max dumbbell at our gym...planning to buy more but thats gonna cost more) macam warm up je
haha
so relax bro
no one is left behind
i do 30kg's
so kejap je lagi tu
haha
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post Jul 29 2009, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 29 2009, 12:31 PM)
He's using it to describe the dangers of alcohol compared to steroids. Steroids is just so much safer. Read the sentence properly. It's pretty obvious. I know a forum member who was a steroid user. Gentle like a pony. A pretty big pony at that.
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are ponies that gentle eh pizza?
haha

i think im agreeing to bata
orang sakit otak can get roid rage as the increased in testosterone just make things worse
especially those with anger management issues

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post Aug 2 2009, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Aug 2 2009, 02:01 AM)
lol. bowl of miso. no comment. go and get something more proper la. such as some oral rehydration salt or gatorade or 100plus or something. E L E C T RO L Y T E S. your muscle are too dehydrated. not drinking enough water also can be another reason.
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not drinking at least 2l of plain water per day qualifies one as a non-bb'er
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Aug 4 2009, 09:45 PM)
LOLhypocrisyLOLOLOLOLOLOL
You HAVE to be a troll.  You always seem to clam up and revert to this YOU DON'T KNOW ME BLAHHHHH argument whenever someone calls you out and tells you to put up a photo of yourself for people to back up your shit.
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hey angrydog, these posts by that troll reminds me of err...king
hahaha
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 10 2009, 10:25 PM)
I've just received some 'unconventional' nutrition and exercise advice today:
(pizzaboy, can you ask your coach about these pointers whether they make sense? Because they certainly don't make any sense to me. LOL!)

1) Drinking whey in between set during workout will put the proteins to waste. It's better to take isotonic drinks. Post workout should be something with carbs (milk, bananas, eggs), then a few minutes later---whey protein.

2) Don't take protein stuff immediately after waking up. Take some carb (fruits, honey, bread, rice, porridge, etc) or chinese style soup. Then take protein (eggs, milk, whey, etc) 1/2 to 1 hour later.

3) Chin up works the triceps instead of the biceps.
Well I have lots of respect for the gym owner, but this one I can't accept.

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http://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

Braindead,
HL is low lactose. Probably that's why it's more expensive. If you're not lactose intolerant, then it doesn't matter much to you.
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where did u get the stuff on the statements from 1-3?
they sound weird although not absolutely wrong...just weird
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post Aug 22 2009, 10:36 PM

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hey dudes
i've googled enough but could not find the best answer to this

im aware of the basic functions of l-glutamine and creatine, but when's the best time to take them and how?

i've read in sites including bb.com by big cat and shaun lebrun

for creatine, i've read that if your goal is strength during training, one should take it pre-workout whereas muscle mass as a goal requires taking it post workout...but i've read somewhere that it should also be consumed upon rising and/or before bedtime

as for glutamine, some say that it should be consumed upon waking up, before bed and post workout

my question is, lets say after workout we wanna consume whey protein due to the muscles in the anabolic state
so we consume whey + glutamine + creatine?
or?

and like upon waking up, usually i take casein or whey
so whey/casein + glutamine + creatine or?

they also talk on insulin spikes like taking creatine/glutamine efficiently with simple carbs drinks like fruit juice etc
are stuffs like ribena and sunkist sufficient?

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Aug 23 2009, 10:20 AM)
All this debate about creatine just makes me wonder one simple thing.

How do these researchers/guideline makers know that it's better to take it at that particular time?

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i think mamat big cat in bb.com did a physical test on bb'ers who drank creatine with orange juice at a certain period of time and measured the gains in muscle mass after 8-10 weeks

to sum up uhuk-uhuk's summary, so, to save all the hassle, for creatine cycle, start with the loading phase and later the post loading, and if malas just campur with whey protein or drink whey 30 minutes after taking the creatine (u used glucolin eh? i'd prefer sunquick or ribena)
after loading phase, for non-workout days, drink creatine upon waking up
whereas workout days, drink 10g post workout

then, does the same apply to glutamine? i mean glutamine takde load or post loading phase kan?
and do u think glutamine and creatine consumption could help with fat loss cuz they supposedly help our body to repair and grow muscles

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QUOTE(diablokun @ Aug 23 2009, 12:06 PM)
rasanya high-fructose components (e.g. fruit juice) should be avoided because fructose does not elicit a significant insulin response, aite ??
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fructose, glucose, sucrose all invoke insulin spikes imho
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 23 2009, 05:30 PM)
Fructose has a induces a lesser insulin response.
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hmm...i dunno
but here's the article by big cat

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catcrea.htm


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