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post Mar 3 2009, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 3 2009, 04:08 PM)
woooooo
i moderator!!!

weird man....can close open topics here. Cool in a way...wolol!
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GOSH!! till now you only noticed that?
you have become Mod since yesterday night!
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post Mar 3 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 3 2009, 08:10 PM)
60G is correct!

Less servings for more protein!

Is peeing protein a problem for the kidneys??Last urine test i did the doc said i had a trace amount of protein!
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Do take note that the serving size of the on complex ..lol

On complex
Serving Size 2Rounded Scoops(74g)-60g Protein
0.8108g protein per Gram

On standard
Serving Size1Rounded Scoop(32g) -24g Protein
0.75g protein per Gram

Scivation
Serving Size: (28.40g)-22g Protein
0.7747g per Gram
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post Mar 4 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 4 2009, 10:25 AM)
BEST post ever by MYVI5949. EVER.
Thanks guys for the wishes. I just hope I don't mess up.

I really wonder if there's anything we can do bout such PT's. I mean, they're complete unqualified, promote the wrong exercises, form and even products, half the time they're bragging about waht they know instead of trying to share and educate others about the right methods.

This is extremely unethical for one, and should be against industry practices. I think there should really be a guideline in the Malaysian fitness/gym scene about the do's and don't of being a personal trainer.

And the biggest DON'T i feel that should be up there is;

"Don't pretend you know everything, just because you're a personal trainer and you've read bb.com"
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and 9 out of 10 PT will tell you, DONt Squat full and deep, you will hurt your knee
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post Mar 4 2009, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 4 2009, 09:41 PM)
Can get those in pairs.. 1 pair for RM30-40 i cant remember..get those at Tesco. The plates u can buy seperately too..there is 10kg, 5kg, 1kg, 7.5kg plates..the barbell bar cost RM75. 

If u want 1 dumbell bar only its hard to find.. can search secondhand. 1 dumbell with 10kg plates cost around Rm40 at Econsave.
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hard to find meh..i see alot selling at carefour price around RM20+-

but buying individualy cost you a bomb

just wait for promotion, i got mine 15kg adjustable at around RM60+

now it is collecting dust...lol
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post Mar 4 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:15 PM)
Can't find those at Carefour last time i check..well i am at JB maybe different stock. 15kg dumbell for that price is quite cheap actually. Why not just sell yours..let other people use lor don waste. i am sure there are people willing to buy at Garage sale.
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dont want, LYN ppl love to offer ridiculous price..lol
rather keep it, can use it for magic 50 at home XD
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post Mar 5 2009, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(uhuk-uhuk @ Mar 5 2009, 01:54 AM)
Concerning the heavy-weights low-rep workout (5x5), the main purpose is to activate "sleeping" muscle fibres which have not been given a reason to be active because of the lack of intensity. Yes, you may lift moderate weights for 15 reps but only the last few reps (perhaps the last 2 or 3), when you are finding it harder to lift, would actually contribute the most to the "waking-up" of the inactive muscle fibres.

So, now that it is clear that the greatest stress is caused by the last few reps, wouldn't it be good to have stress from the very beginning? Of course, you cannot have stress by using moderate weights. You would need to up your poundages to a certain degree that even the first two or three reps of your set would have already put your muscles under stress. When this is done for a few sets (5x5), additional muscle fibers would have a role to play because your muscle fibers are already fatigued. There is now a reason for your muscles to grow.
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20reps squat then? XD
with heavy weight, 80% to 90% your 5RM
your muscle will be shocked again
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post Mar 5 2009, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:38 AM)
I am quiet curious wif this routine..doing 20 reps of 80% 5RM would be tiring.  Muscles would be exhausted, but muscles cannot get big from exhaustion.. it gets big from overloading.  That is the basis of all those low rep heavy weight routine. I am sure that by doing 20 reps you'lll boost your testosterone and hgh levels.. but this could also be achieve by doing regular strength training program like madcow and max ot. Varying the routine is ok but i just don't get the 20 reps..other than the increase intensity.
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found some link
happy reading
do check the link inside
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/20_Rep_Squats

http://ezinearticles.com/?Get-Big-Muscle-F...quats&id=714241

QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 2 2009, 12:36 AM)
saw this when surfing net...lol tongue.gif

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...arting_strength
T-Nation: Speaking of stupid shit, or rather, crazy shit, a section of your book Strong Enough?: Thoughts from Thirty Years of Barbell Training talked about the mental benefits of 20-rep squats. Can you go a bit more into that?


Rippetoe:
This isn't something I dreamed up. Strossen's written about it. Perry Rader's old programs from the '40s and '50s involved 20-rep squats. 20-rep squats are not a beginner's thing, because beginners can't possibly do them correctly. But for an intermediate lifter who wants to take six or eight weeks and grow some legs, 20-rep squats do a marvelous job.

It does make you tough. But most people can't stand to do the damn thing. If you're doing it right, you won't go more than six or eight weeks. You just can't. At least I couldn't, and I'm kind of stupid about that kind of stuff.

For an actual, no shit, set of 20 squats, you're going to pick a weight that you previously thought was your 10-rep max. And you're going to do 10 reps with it. Then you're going to do the 11th rep, and you're gonna breathe a little bit. And finally, you're gonna finish the 19th rep, and Jesus is gonna be talking to you about this time.

Then you're gonna finish the 20th rep, and you'll somehow get it back in the rack, and then you collapse. You'll get tunnel vision and your hearing will change while you're trying to catch your breath. All kinds of weird peripheral central nervous system effects will take place.

What you normally find is that you're laying on the ground, and you think, "Oh my God, I'm so glad that's over with." And then after about five minutes, the realization occurs, "I gotta do this again next week with another ten pounds. Oh shit."

Most people can't deal with that for a long period of time. But it's terribly useful for short periods of time.
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post Mar 5 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(bebeq @ Mar 5 2009, 01:21 PM)
totaly wrong... everybdy got diffrn kind of metoblzma and body shape from genetic... u gotta work out diffrn style to see the result...u cant copy what people do...if i do 2 set bicep work out...is not mean same thing u can do...train yaslf...and see wich is workin out well...don copy simply...
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which post you refering? if you refered to mine,

i didnt said that you will see the result 100%,many factor playing inside, if you do a good program without proper diet, you will still fail

those program is proven well program with proper diet, they give alot usefull guideline and compound movement
and most important thing is they give you the basic idea and basic knowledge! do you think your bicep will grow big with just doing biceps curls?

for those simply copy, i dont see anything wrong with it, at least for novice like me. (not talking about 20 reps program, if you donno the squat form, it will push you to death tongue.gif )

and most importantly you know what the hell you are doing for. and i am trying different program as well


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post Mar 6 2009, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(anonymousover9000 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:13 PM)
peeps, i have been doin 20 rep squats for a month now.
but i feel that i am not feeling much from the squat like soreness or "that feeling u get on the next day afta u workout " .
i am almost approaching carying my bw squat but i dont wanna get into that too fast coz i am still am begineer in squats.
izit becoz of my weight or my form?
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yap, 20 reps is not for novice, but i only have half year exp of lifting weight, i think i am under novice category as well, but i think it is allright as long as you know the proper form of squat


ya, exactly the same thing happened to me also. when 1st started, there is a slight soreness, but after awhile, the soreness has been decrease alot for following squat, but it cames again after i reach a quite heavy squat. i miss the soreness given when my 1st dumbbell squat... there is only 10kg dumbbell each side
haha, sore for 1 whole week. now i think my body already get used to the workload


now, all and i want to learn is clean, snatch bla bla movement, they looks interesting. have to do alot of study for that. try and error, try and error.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 6 2009, 09:29 PM)
I can help you there. Really. brows.gif
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good good!! tongue.gif

Power Clean! XD is to replace with row

or hang clean 1st?


http://www.myfit.ca/exercisedatabase/viewa...xercises&id=127

omg, this lifter is HOT! wub.gif

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post Mar 7 2009, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(iceypain @ Mar 7 2009, 10:48 AM)
RM stands for rep max
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5 RM = 5 Rep max

mean the max weight you can lift for 5 time
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Mar 20 2009, 09:29 AM)
whey + creatine can gain weight oso ? i think ill op for dis one coz if gainer need to take 2 x 6lbs per month le...btw if i stop taking amino will my recovery slow down oso ?
me oredi rice bowl all my life but rice bowl not enuf for me to gain weight le...unless i take 12 big rice a day la hehe...
i mix normal sugar with creatine for pre is dat ok ?
u mean normal peanut butter? geez never try dat b4 ..few scoops wor means one jar per intake ? how many jar of peanut butter u buy ?
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seriously!you need more knowledge in BB. please do your study, you seem like lacks of basic knowledge of nutrition and how the body works. please go bodybuilding.com and stuff yourself a bunch of article

without proper knowledge, you just waste of money for those supplement
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post Mar 24 2009, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 11:02 AM)
Nope, I don't mean pause. I mean stand straight in squat and push your hand straight in bench press or shoulder press. So it locks. Btw I think I cannot pause when I am at the bottom during squat. For sure, I cannot push the weight back up. It's better for me to pause at standing position.
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some say lockout will hurt the joint, some say no, but i always lockout, if not i dont have energy to push next reps,

QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 24 2009, 12:15 PM)
i have a prob which is lack of plate, coz im doing weight lifting at home... i do have a total weight plate around 20++ kg.. to get a lean body, what should i do? increase rep? usually, i did my routine for example, squat : 20kg x 5 set x 15.. lately, i dont feel any soreness and feel like my muscles were not growing.. huhu.. any ideas?

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what is your bodyweight?, for those who train for more than 6 month, who can probably squat at least 0.75-1x of their bodyweight
even you do 5x50x20kg, the result compared with 5x10x100kg is still a huge diff.
so join a gym is best solution. try find some ghetto gym
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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Mar 26 2009, 07:37 PM)
shit, this thread is becoming a weightlifting thread instead of bodybuilding thread. no offence though, pizzaman. well, its just me cuz i carry babyweights, so, there's nothing i can brag about. =(
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someone please open a powerlifting theard then XD biggrin.gif
gosh after rest for 3 days, my legs still no recover from the squat sweat.gif
sometime i just dont understand, if you train frequently(1 week 3 times), the soreness is lesser compare with if you rest for a week and squat again
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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 7 2009, 06:55 PM)
Bloody hell I hurt my middle back today while doing squat, pakai belt also kena. I think I didn't do stretching punya pasal. Fukkk!

Faster recover, I hate this fukken' feeling.
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i that that is the form problem, dont blame on stretching
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 10 2009, 05:04 PM)
I just came back from gym.
There is this guy, i think weight around 65-70kg max.
he is around 170-173cm.
he was doing squat.
started off at
70kg x5
90kg x5
110kg x5
120kg x3
when he reach 130kg, i got a feeling he is going to stumble.
he didnt ask for any spotter, but somehow my heart says go...
so i went...
true enough after his 1st rep, on his 2nd rep, he fell... backwards!
i was like wtf... lucky i grab the whole bar in time.
and manage to do a deadlift pose... muahaha!!! =.=

damn... i dun know wats gonna happen if i am not there...
coz he fell straight down and if i didnt catch the bar, he is so gonna get hurt... but yet again... he is strong. =.=
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lol, he is an idiot?
no safety pin meh?>
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 10 2009, 05:34 PM)
hmmm... safety pin?
errr... i dont think my campus gym has any of those.
and he aint an idiot.
i kinda respect him though.
he is a very nice and humble guy.
he is very very quite person and not cocky type.
i guess his leg just gave way at the moment he tried the 2nd rep.
he is taking 2 times his weight.
nobody laughed at all even when he failed, coz i think he gave his best shot and  look at the weight he is carrying.
if it were to be double my weight, i think i am suppose to be carrying 170kg.
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oh my bad then, i though he dint make use of the safety pin
seriously, none of us is going to laugh!

i only laugh to those when i enter the gym, those doing biceps curl, when i taking my post-drink, they are still doing biceps curl rclxub.gif
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post Apr 20 2009, 10:20 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WOP9J7QPwI

this workout looks great XD
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post Apr 28 2009, 03:34 PM

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if you really want to kill your fear

go and try 20 reps squat program.
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 29 2009, 11:11 AM)
if it grows up to not proportionate, then its stupid...
some ppl just workout their arm and chest, while they dont work out their legs...
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that's why alot chicken leg walking around in gym

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