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The Weight Loss Thread v3, Ask your weight loss questions here.
The Weight Loss Thread v3, Ask your weight loss questions here.
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Continued from v2
V1 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1056090 V2 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1518200 This post has been edited by Syd G: Apr 13 2012, 04:30 PM |
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Why isn't there like a pinned sticky about the science behind losing weight ?
Should I make one ? It would curb the amount of "HOw do I lose weight" threads. |
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Losing weights is a big struggle for me
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losing weight is not big deal, maintain the weight after you losing it is something serious. I am on the process of losing weight now, build up the awareness of healthy lifestyle and selective eating but those delicious are just too tempting.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 13 2012, 12:42 PM) Thanks Syd G for getting this pinned and the new thread.Could you also place these links on your first posting as a reference V1 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1056090 V2 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1518200 |
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waaa.....V3 ^^
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waaa V3 already !!
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since I posted this in the end of V2, so I guess I repost this to get you guys opinion about it.
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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Apr 16 2012, 01:12 AM) since I posted this in the end of V2, so I guess I repost this to get you guys opinion about it. 5 spoons? how many cups is that? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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well, apparently the myth works for me. i dropped my BF% from 24 to 18 in 5 weeks and maintaining my muscle mass with high reps workout program. if you have time and commitment, no harm trying it out right?
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I dont think one could called it a myth, studies has shown its inconclusive. we should not be concluding anything just based on a one or two studies. A new study would show otherwise.
Regular (consistent) Split meals has its benefits in many ways. This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 17 2012, 12:17 AM |
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Inconclusive? One or two studies? There has been more than 10 done iirc, and they were all pretty much conclusive, that frequent feedings have no effect on metabolism compared to fewer feedings.. The fact that its been replicated so many times means its very conclusive.
Perhaps there are other benefits, but there is no metabolic advantage to it. Link to said study please. Does it assert that there is metabolic advantage to frequent feedings? Otherwise, skip it. This post has been edited by darkseifer: Apr 17 2012, 08:41 AM |
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honestly i've tried both.....many meals and 3 meals per day, i dont see much changes in my metabolism as well as my weight.....DL do it with only 3 meals and now i'm on 3 meals most of the day as well....still okay with my weight and all....so yea, i'm with darkseifer this time
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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Apr 17 2012, 08:40 AM) Inconclusive? One or two studies? There has been more than 10 done iirc, and they were all pretty much conclusive, that frequent feedings have no effect on metabolism compared to fewer feedings.. The fact that its been replicated so many times means its very conclusive. somewhat I agreed with you but not as whole....when looking from a holistic view, it has more benefits to split the meals, hence that practice should not be discarded in a fly.Perhaps there are other benefits, but there is no metabolic advantage to it. Link to said study please. Does it assert that there is metabolic advantage to frequent feedings? Otherwise, skip it. Eating 3 meals is fine, if you know what you are doing, and have planned your micros/marcos. sorry, I'm unable to detail my thoughts further....short of time...hence copy and paste reading material below... << Meal frequency was related to BMI and should be considered when developing guidelines to prevent childhood overweight. http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v32/n1/abs/0803654a.html >> << Eating meals regularly is inversely associated to the metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance and (high) serum concentrations of gamma-glutamyl transferase. These findings suggest that eating meals irregularly may be part of several potential environmental risk factors that are associated with the metabolic syndrome and may have future implications in giving dietary advice to prevent and/or treat the syndrome. http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v16/n6/f...by2008203a.html >> << The prevalence of obesity decreased by number of daily meals: three or fewer meals, 4.2% [95% confidence interval (CI), 2.8 to 6.1]; four meals, 2.8% (95% CI, 2.1 to 3.7); and 5 or more meals, 1.7% (95% CI, 1.2 to 2.4). These effects could not be explained by confounding due to a wide range of constitutional, sociodemographic, and lifestyle factors. The adjusted odds ratios for obesity were 0.73 (95% CI, 0.44 to 1.21) for four meals and 0.51 (95% CI, 0.29 to 0.89) for five or more meals. Additional analyses pointed to a higher energy intake in nibblers compared with gorgers. http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v13/n11/...by2005238a.html >> << Eating meals regularly is inversely associated to the metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance and (high) serum concentrations of gamma-glutamyl transferase. These findings suggest that eating meals irregularly may be part of several potential environmental risk factors that are associated with the metabolic syndrome and may have future implications in giving dietary advice to prevent and/or treat the syndrome. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1838890...act&holding=npg >> << Results: Omitting a meal was followed by increases in fat mass (360 plusminus 115 grams, p < 0.05), late evening leptin concentration (20.7 plusminus 11.0% , p < 0.05), and respiratory quotient (3.7 plusminus 1.4% , p < 0.05). Increase in the percentage of dietary fat during the habituation period (+4.1 plusminus 2.0% , p < 0.05) was correlated with fat mass (r = 0.66, p < 0.05). Adding a meal had no effect, but, in both groups, the change in energy content at this fourth eating occasion was correlated with the change in adiposity. Discussion: Our results suggest that adiposity may increase when young lean male subjects switch from a four- to a three-meal pattern by removing their usual afternoon meal. This effect could be partly mediated by a change in the macronutrient composition of the diet. http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v14/n2/f...oby200628a.html >> << The irregular meal frequency appears to produce a degree of insulin resistance and higher fasting lipid profiles, which may indicate a deleterious effect on these cardiovascular risk factors. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15220950 >> << The data indicate that increased meal frequency may have a beneficial effect on a reduced BMI. Physical activity and breakfast skipping may be candidate targets for prevention programmes aimed at reducing overweight/obesity among adolescents http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18274921 >> Clearly the above shows that there is a link of meal frequency and metabolism, muscle mass, obesity and fat loss, insulin resistance. Hence we should not brush aside meal frequency and metabolism or the other body's characteristic changes to the affect. And clearly I dont want to pick a fight, just matter of discussion, and hope others could throw some factual light as well. Cheers. This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 17 2012, 02:26 PM |
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You did not present a cohesive argument. I would advice you not to straw man my position and stay on topic. Nobody said that frequent feedings is useless. Did you not properly read my original response? The previous poster recommended to split meals to keep metabolism high. Frequent feedings to increase metabolism is a myth. I did not say anything else.
The assertion: Does meal frequency increase metabolism? The answer is no. Its that simple. Controlled trials have demonstrated that clearly. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1905998 QUOTE A study was conducted to investigate whether there is a diurnal pattern of nutrient utilization in man and how this is affected by meal frequency to explain possible consequences of meal frequency for body weight regulation. When the daily energy intake is consumed in a small number of large meals, there is an increased chance to become overweight, possibly by an elevated lipogenesis (fat synthesis and accumulation) or storage of energy after the meal. Thirteen subjects, two males and eleven females, were fed to energy balance in two meals per day (gorging pattern) and seven meals per day (nibbling pattern) over 2-day intervals. On the second day on each feeding regimen, the diurnal pattern of nutrient utilization was calculated from simultaneous measurements of oxygen consumption, carbon dioxide production and urinary nitrogen excretion over 3 h intervals in a respiration chamber. A gorging pattern of energy intake resulted in a stronger diurnal periodicity of nutrient utilization, compared to a nibbling pattern. However, there were no consequences for the total 24 h energy expenditure (24 h EE) of the two feeding patterns (5.57 +/- 0.16 kJ/min for the gorging pattern; 5.44 +/- 0.18 kJ/min for the nibbling pattern). Concerning the periodicity of nutrient utilization, protein oxidation during the day did not change between the two feeding patterns. In the gorging pattern, carbohydrate oxidation was significantly elevated during the interval following the first meal (ie from 1200 h to 1500 h, P less than 0.01) and the second meal (ie from 1800 h to 2100 h, P less than 0.05). The decreased rate of carbohydrate oxidation observed during the fasting period (from rising in the morning until the first meal at 1200 h), was compensated by an increased fat oxidation from 0900 to 1200 h to cover energy needs. In the nibbling pattern, carbohydrate and fat oxidation remained relatively constant during the active hours of the day.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494 QUOTE Several epidemiological studies have observed an inverse relationship between people's habitual frequency of eating and body weight, leading to the suggestion that a 'nibbling' meal pattern may help in the avoidance of obesity. A review of all pertinent studies shows that, although many fail to find any significant relationship, the relationship is consistently inverse in those that do observe a relationship. However, this finding is highly vulnerable to the probable confounding effects of post hoc changes in dietary patterns as a consequence of weight gain and to dietary under-reporting which undoubtedly invalidates some of the studies. We conclude that the epidemiological evidence is at best very weak, and almost certainly represents an artefact. A detailed review of the possible mechanistic explanations for a metabolic advantage of nibbling meal patterns failed to reveal significant benefits in respect of energy expenditure. Although some short-term studies suggest that the thermic effect of feeding is higher when an isoenergetic test load is divided into multiple small meals, other studies refute this, and most are neutral. More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging. Finally, with the exception of a single study, there is no evidence that weight loss on hypoenergetic regimens is altered by meal frequency. We conclude that any effects of meal pattern on the regulation of body weight are likely to be mediated through effects on the food intake side of the energy balance equation. Thus adding more meals while keeping total calorie intake the same does nothing to improve metabolism. You posted nothing to refute that. By the way, correlation does not imply causation, keep in mind the next time you decide to draw conclusions from behavioural/statistical studies. This post has been edited by darkseifer: Apr 17 2012, 04:08 PM |
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split it into 5-6 meals in order to keep your metabolism rate high.
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Tried the 5-6 meal method. No difference for me in terms of result. It just felt more irritating. Broscience sux. Lol.
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In my opinion , just common sense .
Stomach = Meat Grinder If you put in less meat at a time , the "grinder" will suffer less ? Instead of piling more than what it can handle. |
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Hey all,
I'm starting to lose weight lately, but not sure if my method is consider "alright" I go to gym 3 times every week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) and sometimes an extra. My routine: 15min cycling + (2-5minute of cooldown *auto set by the machine*) 10min threadmill *speed 4~5.5* + (5minute of cooldown) 10~30min of muscle training (do 4 sets and each set 10 times) lastly, at least Swimming for 20 laps (normally about 20minutes) is that consider okay? |
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:34 PM) Hey all, what r u trying to archive? reducing body fats?I'm starting to lose weight lately, but not sure if my method is consider "alright" I go to gym 3 times every week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday) and sometimes an extra. My routine: 15min cycling + (2-5minute of cooldown *auto set by the machine*) 10min threadmill *speed 4~5.5* + (5minute of cooldown) 10~30min of muscle training (do 4 sets and each set 10 times) lastly, at least Swimming for 20 laps (normally about 20minutes) is that consider okay? |
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do i need to do abs exercise to get more satisfying result in slimming down my belly? i have been doing cardio and weight training for the past few months, but still have some leftover hanging there. my weight is within a range of 68-72kg and height 178cm.
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QUOTE(hexion @ Apr 20 2012, 01:57 PM) do i need to do abs exercise to get more satisfying result in slimming down my belly? i have been doing cardio and weight training for the past few months, but still have some leftover hanging there. my weight is within a range of 68-72kg and height 178cm. there is no such thing as spot reduction .Meaning do abs to reduce tummy flat |
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To reduce belly fat you need to lose total body fat
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ok. i frequent mamak with friends and there's where i always gather:
This is what i eat today as dinner: 2 Chapati 2 Telur Rebus 2 Bananas 2 Icewater and now while typing this eating 2 green apple Good and balance diet? If not how to improve in a mamak context. Also, what to replace bananas, because bananas only available on friday This post has been edited by hidden830726: Apr 20 2012, 09:57 PM |
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:56 PM) ok. i frequent mamak with friends and there's where i always gather: Its terrible.This is what i eat today as dinner: 2 Chapati 2 Telur Rebus 2 Bananas 2 Icewater and now while typing this eating 2 green apple Good and balance diet? If not how to improve in a mamak context. Also, what to replace bananas, because bananas only available on friday Lacking in fats and protein. For a person trying to lose weight thats a lot of carbs. |
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:42 PM) wow, okay, good luck to u, glad u decide to lost weight, i was 186cm, 94kg 4months ago, about the same situation as u r facing nowAdded on April 23, 2012, 1:06 pm QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:56 PM) ok. i frequent mamak with friends and there's where i always gather: This is what i eat today as dinner: 2 Chapati 2 Telur Rebus 2 Bananas 2 Icewater and now while typing this eating 2 green apple Good and balance diet? If not how to improve in a mamak context. Also, what to replace bananas, because bananas only available on friday QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 21 2012, 05:04 AM) definitely too much carbs for a person that wish to reduce body weight pls calculate ur macros learn all this from thelion4ever This post has been edited by woonrokjou: Apr 23 2012, 01:08 PM |
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Apr 20 2012, 09:56 PM) ok. i frequent mamak with friends and there's where i always gather: u need protein and meat too..This is what i eat today as dinner: 2 Chapati 2 Telur Rebus 2 Bananas 2 Icewater and now while typing this eating 2 green apple Good and balance diet? If not how to improve in a mamak context. Also, what to replace bananas, because bananas only available on friday u sure can lose weight with those meal but u will look pale and dull |
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hey guys are there something wrong with my dietary program? people keep on saying that i look pale and weak nowadays even when there's wind breeze can blow me off. + family also worried that i may not had enough carbs for my brain to function properly for studying purpose. most of them also think that i might have eating disorder.
my weight is 69kg and height 178cm++. waist i think around 32 1/2. used to be slightly obese 89kg now my collar bone are visible and pretty much else can see my ribs too but still failed to get flat stomach. i workout 5 times a week, consist of cardio and weight training. my weekly diet: breakfast- whole grain cereal and milk lunch- probably subway or o'brien sandwiches or white rice with chicken dinner- salad with a few piece of feta cheese and pepperoni snack- fruit like grapes,apple or orange. should i eat more? counting calories kinda pain in the ass, really gave me a headache on where to eat and what to order. from online calories calculator said that i should not exceed consuming calories more than 2k per day. do i need to reduce more weight to get flat stomach or continue with building a muscle? |
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^ im facing the same problem with u... maybe because your family used to see u in obese size .. and normally obese person will look fresher. After become thin.. family feel like we're too thin and don't look as fresh as before xD
from your weight i think u are thin enough.. now just focus on the tummy.. do more sit up and waist exercise |
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QUOTE(hexion @ Apr 24 2012, 06:47 PM) hey guys are there something wrong with my dietary program? people keep on saying that i look pale and weak nowadays even when there's wind breeze can blow me off. + family also worried that i may not had enough carbs for my brain to function properly for studying purpose. most of them also think that i might have eating disorder. It means you are skinny fat. my weight is 69kg and height 178cm++. waist i think around 32 1/2. used to be slightly obese 89kg now my collar bone are visible and pretty much else can see my ribs too but still failed to get flat stomach. i workout 5 times a week, consist of cardio and weight training. my weekly diet: breakfast- whole grain cereal and milk lunch- probably subway or o'brien sandwiches or white rice with chicken dinner- salad with a few piece of feta cheese and pepperoni snack- fruit like grapes,apple or orange. should i eat more? counting calories kinda pain in the ass, really gave me a headache on where to eat and what to order. from online calories calculator said that i should not exceed consuming calories more than 2k per day. do i need to reduce more weight to get flat stomach or continue with building a muscle? Stop cutting and starts BULKING now and lift heavy. Cut back on cardio. And yeah, eat more protein. This post has been edited by verticalforce: Apr 25 2012, 12:28 PM |
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QUOTE(dywx07045 @ Apr 25 2012, 11:44 PM) for bulking up, i use MuscleTech Nitro-tech hard core, the taste is a bit weird, but really effective for building lean muscles it's not weight-gainer type of supplement aite? i dont want my tummy to gain fat later-on. so how it work? do i need to take it as a pre-workout supplement or post-workout, as a pre-workout i already take jack3d. |
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Hi guys, I looking for some advices about weight loss and maintaining it.
To my understanding is that maintaining a calories deficit diet/lifestyle is the way to lose weight and when my calories intake equals my calories burned, my weight maintains. Lets just say if I start a strict diet to lower my calories intake drastically while maintaining my physical activities as per usual (weight training and cardio), I should be losing weight (while I understand that it will be a net loss in weight but it is lesser because of muscle build and that muscle weight is actually heavier than fat). So with all the exercise and strict diet, say I am able to shed 15kg and I am happy and satisfied with my current body weight. My main question is now, whether if I continue with my exercise routines (no change in style or intensity) but I am no longer following a strict diet and revert to my usual diet pattern (healthy and nothing excessively). Would I still be able to maintain my new weight or my weight will increase back to my old previous weight ? I read that bigger muscle build would result in higher metabolism and if I do not eat excessively, I should still be able to maintain a slight calorie deficit if not equal calorie intake and consumption to maintain my new lighter body weight. Any views in my theory ? This post has been edited by RedShirt: Apr 26 2012, 06:46 PM |
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QUOTE(RedShirt @ Apr 26 2012, 06:39 PM) Hi guys, I looking for some advices about weight loss and maintaining it. Sup brah. It seems like you answered your own question?To my understanding is that maintaining a calories deficit diet/lifestyle is the way to lose weight and when my calories intake equals my calories burned, my weight maintains. Lets just say if I start a strict diet to lower my calories intake drastically while maintaining my physical activities as per usual (weight training and cardio), I should be losing weight (while I understand that it will be a net loss in weight but it is lesser because of muscle build and that muscle weight is actually heavier than fat). So with all the exercise and strict diet, say I am able to shed 15kg and I am happy and satisfied with my current body weight. My main question is now, whether if I continue with my exercise routines (no change in style or intensity) but I am no longer following a strict diet and revert to my usual diet pattern (healthy and nothing excessively). Would I still be able to maintain my new weight or my weight will increase back to my old previous weight ? I read that bigger muscle build would result in higher metabolism and if I do not eat excessively, I should still be able to maintain a slight calorie deficit if not equal calorie intake and consumption to maintain my new lighter body weight. Any views in my theory ? "To my understanding is that maintaining a calories deficit diet/lifestyle is the way to lose weight and when my calories intake equals my calories burned, my weight maintains." -All you have to do is adjust your eating accordingly to your maintenance calories if you want to maintain. Assuming you are still in a deficit, if you plan to return to maintenance, add a small amount of calories weekly till you reach maintenance calories. On to the next "I read that bigger muscle build would result in higher metabolism and if I do not eat excessively, I should still be able to maintain a slight calorie deficit if not equal calorie intake and consumption to maintain my new lighter body weight." -This is something that is usually blown out of proportion. Yes a 1lb of muscle tissue burns more calories than 1lb fat tissue, however its pretty insignificant. Lets put some numbers to it. 1lb of muscle burns about 6 calories at rest and fat burns about 2 calories at rest. Lets assume that you lose 10lbs of fat and gain 10lbs of muscle. You're going to weigh the same, but of course you're going to look a heck of a lot better. So back to the point, you're going to burn an additional 40 calories a day due to the change in body composition. Not very significant. For it to be very significant you have to build a significant amount of muscle which will take a very long time to reach. |
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V3 already...nice. Normally jog 4 times a week, 45 minutes each session. Stopped jogging since Januari 2012 since moving to a new apartment. Still walking 2.4 km everyday though since have no time to jog. Waist 32 inches...now 31 inches; loosen pants Old days was 36 inches. Started again FINALLY last Saturday. Sore on the CALF and THIGH Took a week to heal. Maybe can jog again tomorrow. Last time longest break was a month, only a sore calf. This time after nearly 4 months...even the thigh was sore Glad to be back. Stay healthy guys. This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Apr 28 2012, 10:03 AM |
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Can I play skipping rope to lose belly fat? I've played for quite a time and at first, it was very effective but not that effective now.
I don't know why but now I seem like not gaining or losing weight no matter how I starve myself or eat a lot of stuffs. Last time I used to eat breakfast and dinner only but I didn't lose weight. Now I eat breakfast, lunch and even dinner but, not gaining weight also. Sometimes, I even have tea time.... This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: Apr 28 2012, 12:57 PM |
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the weight doesnt matters~ the SHAPE does
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I decided to challenge myself. I was overweight, kinda plump. Over 12 weeks, I followed this plan (http://www.primermagazine.com/2009/train/a-new-year-a-new-body-the-complete-12-week-body-transformation-program), which did wonders for me. I lost 8KG in 2 months, gain muscle that I never though I have. However, just want to ask, the fat around the belly seems like won't go away. Any tips and tricks to burn the fat around the belly area?
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Apr 30 2012, 07:34 PM
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err guys..i'm 29 years old male weighing around 94kg..
ideal weight is 74kg..now focus on cardio for loosing my weight.. one question, which fat burner pills/supplement is d best to help me burn more fat and calories..? thanks guys.. |
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Apr 30 2012, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Apr 30 2012, 07:34 PM) err guys..i'm 29 years old male weighing around 94kg.. i took fat burner for 3 months straight, i cant see any significant result...will suggest you to straight go for protein shake...my opinion thoughideal weight is 74kg..now focus on cardio for loosing my weight.. one question, which fat burner pills/supplement is d best to help me burn more fat and calories..? thanks guys.. |
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Apr 30 2012, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Apr 30 2012, 09:25 PM) i took fat burner for 3 months straight, i cant see any significant result...will suggest you to straight go for protein shake...my opinion though protein shake good to lose weight?how bout this? http://fatburner.net/fat-burners/apidexin/ |
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May 1 2012, 02:55 PM
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anyone know how to loose those stubborn tummy fat? my weight is down but, the spare tyre is still around, soft and flabby belly
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May 1 2012, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(birain @ May 1 2012, 02:55 PM) anyone know how to loose those stubborn tummy fat? my weight is down but, the spare tyre is still around, soft and flabby belly mind sharing what is your diet and your workout schedule?my 1st wild guess is because u lose muscle instead of fat. That is why you weight is down but still have fats around |
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May 2 2012, 10:03 PM
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May 3 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(nightfal @ Apr 13 2012, 01:41 PM) struggle no more! try to feed your appetite and feel happy every time you eat, because you know what? studies shows that every time you feel guilty after eating it can lead to stress and during stress our body normally release the stress hormone(cortisol). Too much cortisol can slow your metabolism, causing more weight gain than you would normally experience. |
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May 3 2012, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(zeropulse @ Apr 29 2012, 09:57 PM) I decided to challenge myself. I was overweight, kinda plump. Over 12 weeks, I followed this plan (http://www.primermagazine.com/2009/train/a-new-year-a-new-body-the-complete-12-week-body-transformation-program), which did wonders for me. I lost 8KG in 2 months, gain muscle that I never though I have. However, just want to ask, the fat around the belly seems like won't go away. Any tips and tricks to burn the fat around the belly area? Why do only 12w? do it for life. otherwise you gonna regain what you lost, maybe with extra bonus gain too.At the moment I run, do body weight circuits as I have no access to gym now. no spot reduction, fat are useful for your body, it's normal that your body would want to keep them. unless you are having specific goal like joining Body Building Competition or Dare by a friend to have 6 packs, I don't see any idea why you should hurry it. Keep your life style right, you will be happier man. QUOTE(leah.semilla1 @ May 3 2012, 02:39 PM) struggle no more! try to feed your appetite and feel happy every time you eat, because you know what? studies shows that every time you feel guilty after eating it can lead to stress and during stress our body normally release the stress hormone(cortisol). Too much cortisol can slow your metabolism, causing more weight gain than you would normally experience. I never felt guilty eating.. is that a problem? My weight can fluctuate a lot, I weight 94 last 2 week, 98 last week, 96 this week. |
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May 3 2012, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(leah.semilla1 @ May 3 2012, 02:39 PM) struggle no more! try to feed your appetite and feel happy every time you eat, because you know what? studies shows that every time you feel guilty after eating it can lead to stress and during stress our body normally release the stress hormone(cortisol). Too much cortisol can slow your metabolism, causing more weight gain than you would normally experience. So as long as you feel happy after eating you won't gain weight?? Riveting tale. |
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May 3 2012, 10:52 PM
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Hi, the best method is to control diet intake and regular exercise.
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May 4 2012, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(alvin227 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:45 PM) losing weight is not big deal, maintain the weight after you losing it is something serious. I am on the process of losing weight now, build up the awareness of healthy lifestyle and selective eating but those delicious are just too tempting. So true... I have been doing Zumba for a month already and have successfully loose some weight. I tried so hard to maintain this weight but I also need to watch on my diet which is really hard. Salty and fatty foods are so irresistible. |
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May 4 2012, 05:50 PM
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If I jog 1-1.5 km and walk 0.5-1km 3/4 times a week can I lose weight ( of course not eating junk food, oily food too much) and stay fit?
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May 4 2012, 06:19 PM
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May 4 2012, 06:26 PM
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May 4 2012, 07:42 PM
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maybe many should realize lose fats and lose lean muscle mass is 2 different things but same outcome.
So IMHO one should aim for lose fat instead of lose weight because when you lose fat, eventually your weight will drop. |
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May 4 2012, 11:12 PM
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just my opinion and experience. weight loss does not mean u loose fat but rather loose muscle mass. wut i do to control this is do cardio (jog and skipping) for 20-30mins just as a warm up n set the body to burn. but off course drink at least a glass of plain water b4 u do cardio. after this do some weight training to maintain ur muscles. as u work out u burn fat and gain muscle. this is how i maintain so far its doing good. but it does get a bit bored after a month so hav to change the schedule.... loosing weight and loosing fat is 2 different thing... and i dnt use any fat burners wut so ever.. not yet anyway...
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May 6 2012, 06:47 PM
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what kind of exercise i can do without reducing my food intake?
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May 6 2012, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(aeynan @ May 6 2012, 10:40 PM) Losing weight is not simply dieting, it should be a change in your lifestyle. Even if you try to do all the diets that you can find, but you don't change your bad habits such as not exercising,drinking too much alcohol, smoking and others, then NO DIET would work at all. Losing weight doesn't require exercise.Smoking or drinking don't exactly prevent one from losing weight as well. It all starts with the diet. |
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May 6 2012, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(aeynan @ May 6 2012, 10:50 PM) Best exercise would be walking. These are the estimated figures for an hour of walking.. Do they look promising?http://www.nutristrategy.com/caloriesburnedwalking.htm Added on May 6, 2012, 10:58 pm QUOTE(aeynan @ May 6 2012, 10:50 PM) Even if somebody lost weight from dieting, if there is no change in her or his lifestyle, then the weight would be back before they know it. What I mean is, you do dieting not only for a specific time, if somebody wants to keep off the weight, better make their diet their new lifestyle. plus, exercise not only helps lose weight, it makes you healthier. smoking and drinking on the other hand, are contributing factors of being unhealthy, not just the weight issue. The main issue about dieting is the misconception that it requires food reduction.It's actually about eating the same quantity for satiety, but changing the selection of food. This post has been edited by entryman: May 6 2012, 10:58 PM |
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QUOTE(aeynan @ May 6 2012, 11:06 PM) i said walking is the best because i think it's the easiest to do. we do it everyday. right? so for somebody who doesn't like to work out, this can be the easiest way to exercise without noticing it. as for the diet, i'm not trying to fight you. all that i'm saying are the things that the doctors and gym trainers that i know told me. i am a diabetic, i needed to lose weight and i am losing weight constantly by slowly changing my lifestyle. Okay. Actually it's pretty easy. Diet can be very satisfying too.Example of just one meal: Roasted chicken + broccoli + carrots + natural (sugarless) yoghurt. That's what you should be eating, as opposed to, take for example, curry mee. This post has been edited by entryman: May 6 2012, 11:18 PM |
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May 7 2012, 01:40 AM
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muscles are grown in yhe kitchen...
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May 7 2012, 12:56 PM
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Aminophylline Creams seem promising for spot reductions.
Tim Ferriss:"Based on my experience, using a 2% aminophylline cream for two and a half weeks, applied twice daily, accelerates thigh fat-loss more than 10 times compared to a control." |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 7 2012, 12:56 PM) Aminophylline Creams seem promising for spot reductions. can i make my body full of holes by applying spot reduction cream on very specific hole here and there?Tim Ferriss:"Based on my experience, using a 2% aminophylline cream for two and a half weeks, applied twice daily, accelerates thigh fat-loss more than 10 times compared to a control." then I will have a tummy which looks like moon surface |
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Was 88, currently 80
Planning to lose weight and bulk up at the same time My Goal :- Beach Body/Model Body Day 1 : Biceps, Back, Abs, Cardio Day 2 : Triceps, Chest, Shoulders, Cardio Day 3 : Legs, Cardio Day 4 : Same as day 1 Day 5 : Same as day 2 And so on My resting day isnt set properly. If i feel like resting on that day, i'll do so. But max 1 rest day per week My workouts are :- 4 sets, 8-10 reps. 3 exercises per muscle group. So total 9 exercises per day. Cardio = Cycling studio. At least.. 40 minutes? 5-10 minutes max incline jog on treadmill before weights Warmup -> Weights -> Cardio Am i doing the right thing? Thanks! |
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May 9 2012, 08:59 AM
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Hey guys,
I don't know if im getting on correct track or not.Please review on my routine please. Currently focusing on Weight Loose. Weight - 130kg Height - 170cm +- QUOTE Gym :(Monday,Tues,Wed,Thur,Fri,Sunday) Time :7pm - 9pm Routine : Warm Up - 5 minutes Treadmill - 1st 30minutes (4.2~5.3 , incline 3-10) Cool down on gulp *mineral water Cycle - 15minutes Treadmill - 2nd 15minutes (5.5 , incline 3) Rehydrate with 100 plus 2 times a week. Eating Habit: *Indian Home Food Breakfast - Thosai,chapatti + tea Lunch - Rice , Vege , Meat *consume 3 times a week + ice/juice (sunquick) Dinner - Toast bread (3bread) , Tuna Sleeping Habit: Waking Up - 6am Sleeping - 11pm-12am So guys,do you think its actually worth and correct what im doing ? I just aiming to burn lotsa fat before my brothers marriage which is in Jun end. |
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May 9 2012, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(makaveli @ May 9 2012, 08:59 AM) Hey guys, I don't know if im getting on correct track or not.Please review on my routine please. Currently focusing on Weight Loose. Weight - 130kg Height - 170cm +- So guys,do you think its actually worth and correct what im doing ? I just aiming to burn lotsa fat before my brothers marriage which is in Jun end. Well i think you're lacking on fibre and you gotta reduce on carbs buddy My routine :- 10 minutes wamup, incline 15 speed 6 Weights for an hour, 9 exercises total, 3 muscle group Lastly, cycling classes RPM for 50 minutes I got rid of what, only 8kgs in 3 months? So yeah, losing weight is a slow process... Or maybe i've been eating too much Dont forget to minimize meal portions. Take 6 meals per day to increase your metabolism rate, it works! Oh, and drink lots of water too! Good luck! Congrats on your brother's engagement |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ May 9 2012, 10:46 AM) Well i think you're lacking on fibre and you gotta reduce on carbs buddy Thanks for your advise buddy.My routine :- 10 minutes wamup, incline 15 speed 6 Weights for an hour, 9 exercises total, 3 muscle group Lastly, cycling classes RPM for 50 minutes I got rid of what, only 8kgs in 3 months? So yeah, losing weight is a slow process... Or maybe i've been eating too much Dont forget to minimize meal portions. Take 6 meals per day to increase your metabolism rate, it works! Oh, and drink lots of water too! Good luck! Congrats on your brother's engagement Really appreciate it. Can suggest me a perfect 6 meal a day ? Sorry im too noob on this. This is my 2nd week on gym,meanwhile parents thinking that im forcing my self everyday working out. But the intention makes me cut down most of my craving food etc Ice Cream,Chocolates,and even Rice. Im a weight pounder about 130kg. I eventually loose around 2-5kg by eating oats . As instructed by my coach,there no point for me to carry weight at the moment because he wants me to loose weight . Is that my workout routine is a proper one ? |
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May 9 2012, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(makaveli @ May 9 2012, 11:11 AM) Thanks for your advise buddy. I cant advise you on the perfect 6 meal a day cause me, myself dont even consume 6 meals per day, sorry!Really appreciate it. Can suggest me a perfect 6 meal a day ? Sorry im too noob on this. This is my 2nd week on gym,meanwhile parents thinking that im forcing my self everyday working out. But the intention makes me cut down most of my craving food etc Ice Cream,Chocolates,and even Rice. Im a weight pounder about 130kg. I eventually loose around 2-5kg by eating oats . As instructed by my coach,there no point for me to carry weight at the moment because he wants me to loose weight . Is that my workout routine is a proper one ? Reduce on sugar and salt Celeb Fitness gym trainer told me to not focus on your weight loss, focus on your appearance and body fat Cause you can lose 3 kgs of WATER in one day, intense cardio Which i find his statement pretty true I'm not so sure abt your situation, i'm weighing 80kgs, im overweight according to my BMI I asked CF trainer what should i do? He told me to focus on weights, cause he wants me to convert my fats into muscles So i'll suggest you to lift weights as well. I used to spend 3 hours in the gym last time before i started working But the most inportant thing i've learned from the gym for losing weight is to keep your heart rate constant What i mean by is after warmup, lift weights. Dont take a break too long, try your best to avoid your heart rate from dropping Eventually you're burn fats. Try googling on the AFTERBURN workouts too! P/S i'm not 100% correct, this is based on my experience only. I might be wrong too |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ May 9 2012, 12:01 PM) I cant advise you on the perfect 6 meal a day cause me, myself dont even consume 6 meals per day, sorry! That statement is wrong....fats and muscles are two different tissue...they don't convert to each other...you either lose this and gain that..or vice versa..Reduce on sugar and salt Celeb Fitness gym trainer told me to not focus on your weight loss, focus on your appearance and body fat Cause you can lose 3 kgs of WATER in one day, intense cardio Which i find his statement pretty true I'm not so sure abt your situation, i'm weighing 80kgs, im overweight according to my BMI I asked CF trainer what should i do? He told me to focus on weights, cause he wants me to convert my fats into musclesSo i'll suggest you to lift weights as well. I used to spend 3 hours in the gym last time before i started working But the most inportant thing i've learned from the gym for losing weight is to keep your heart rate constant What i mean by is after warmup, lift weights. Dont take a break too long, try your best to avoid your heart rate from dropping Eventually you're burn fats. Try googling on the AFTERBURN workouts too! P/S i'm not 100% correct, this is based on my experience only. I might be wrong too But about his statement about weight loss is correct...one should focus on losing fats but not weight |
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ May 9 2012, 01:31 PM) That statement is wrong....fats and muscles are two different tissue...they don't convert to each other...you either lose this and gain that..or vice versa.. Thanks sir.But about his statement about weight loss is correct...one should focus on losing fats but not weight May i know the cardio im doing currently are for loose weight or fats ? Far as i know,loose fats=weight are almost the same thing as you loose fats it also loose weight. Correct me if im wrong. |
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May 9 2012, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(makaveli @ May 9 2012, 02:14 PM) Thanks sir. True...but it is also can be lose lean muscle mass = weight....and you don't want that to happen. May i know the cardio im doing currently are for loose weight or fats ? Far as i know,loose fats=weight are almost the same thing as you loose fats it also loose weight. Correct me if im wrong. Cardio will make you lose fats but it is not that superior. To lose fats more effective you need to increase your lean muscles mass because the more muscle mass you have, the more effective your body burn fats. If I were you, I'll take away treadmill. You will hurt your knee alot. do other type of cardio such as crosstrainer which is more knee friendly, or rower. Then I will replace 100plus with only plain water. 100plus is just a sugar drink. Then I will start doing weight training. and end with some cardio for 15 to 20mins. Use your energy for weight training to increase your muscle mass, don't waste energy on cardio too much. As for your diet, I notice you have a lot of carbs in there(such as bread, rice, chapati, etc). Reduce those and replace with more protein source such as tofu, eggs, and such. Oh, take away sunquick as well. Only take it during your cheat meal but not normal meal oh yea...don't skip meal, you must eat to lose fats! more or less like this....i might be wrong but that's what i'd do if i were you. |
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Thanks playerseeker.
It helps me alot. Let me try on changing cardio method tonight. And yes knee hurts alot on 2nd week.I will try on that constrainer tonight. |
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May 9 2012, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ May 9 2012, 03:50 PM) True...but it is also can be lose lean muscle mass = weight....and you don't want that to happen. i agree with this.. i only do cardio twice n sometime 3times a week just to inc my metabolism. most of the time on the weights. the best of luck on u..Cardio will make you lose fats but it is not that superior. To lose fats more effective you need to increase your lean muscles mass because the more muscle mass you have, the more effective your body burn fats. If I were you, I'll take away treadmill. You will hurt your knee alot. do other type of cardio such as crosstrainer which is more knee friendly, or rower. Then I will replace 100plus with only plain water. 100plus is just a sugar drink. Then I will start doing weight training. and end with some cardio for 15 to 20mins. Use your energy for weight training to increase your muscle mass, don't waste energy on cardio too much. As for your diet, I notice you have a lot of carbs in there(such as bread, rice, chapati, etc). Reduce those and replace with more protein source such as tofu, eggs, and such. Oh, take away sunquick as well. Only take it during your cheat meal but not normal meal oh yea...don't skip meal, you must eat to lose fats! more or less like this....i might be wrong but that's what i'd do if i were you. |
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Thanks brothers.
Just back from gym.1st time tried on abdominal crunch.did 2 set of 30. |
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i think the key of losing fat it self actually depends on individual.. however, i think its more important to understand the science behind fat storage, muscle growth, fat burning process in your body. i have tried several ways to cut down in size but actually i cant , i always fall to this what we call "rebound" after slimming down. Until one day i meet this national bodybuilder don wan to mention coz i bought supplement from him then he thought me some tricks. I don want to mention who he is but i would share what i have learn from this guy
First, there is no certain plan for each people to follow to go for diet, if a plan works for you then you are lucky enough but you nvr understand your own body.Each body works differently depends what your body store in your body and your lifestyle, jot that its body works differently but the science behind your body to eliminate fat is same ,thats why some can lose fat fast while some can't. But this are some basic information on fat burning. Your body will use up energy in your body from the food we take measured as calories first. If you are in a calories deficit then the body mechanism will switch to burn sugar or fats in your body depends on the intensity of the exercise you do. From there, you should try workout yourselves on how to lose it rather than lose it and replace it . i really start to figure from there and my 17% body fat end up at 10%. |
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how do yo calculate it? i kno bout the BMI and things but any more tricks from ur trainer?
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QUOTE(malfogs @ May 9 2012, 11:42 PM) i think the key of losing fat it self actually depends on individual.. however, i think its more important to understand the science behind fat storage, muscle growth, fat burning process in your body. i have tried several ways to cut down in size but actually i cant , i always fall to this what we call "rebound" after slimming down. Until one day i meet this national bodybuilder don wan to mention coz i bought supplement from him then he thought me some tricks. I don want to mention who he is but i would share what i have learn from this guy Much appreciate if you could post on the calculate which helps me alot.First, there is no certain plan for each people to follow to go for diet, if a plan works for you then you are lucky enough but you nvr understand your own body.Each body works differently depends what your body store in your body and your lifestyle, jot that its body works differently but the science behind your body to eliminate fat is same ,thats why some can lose fat fast while some can't. But this are some basic information on fat burning. Your body will use up energy in your body from the food we take measured as calories first. If you are in a calories deficit then the body mechanism will switch to burn sugar or fats in your body depends on the intensity of the exercise you do. From there, you should try workout yourselves on how to lose it rather than lose it and replace it . i really start to figure from there and my 17% body fat end up at 10%. Guys,drinking oats with brown sugar is that healthy ? |
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Guys... i just started out with my gym trainer for a week... quite fun and started to get used to it... currently have a big stomach T.T
But what i worry is my diet... Cause i aim at having a fit body like those model.. not that type of big muscle mass.... Is it okay to eat any type of fruits? any fruits that is weight friendly? And any kind of diet can be recommended? |
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apples are weight friendly
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May 26 2012, 12:13 AM
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Previously loosing weight is really a struggle for me. Now it is really just so easy.
Check this out: How to lose weight naturally without struggling? This post has been edited by Enjoyrurlife: Sep 3 2012, 12:12 PM |
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i am trying to lose weight too but my biggest problem is eating. I exercise but i still eat lol
Argh i just love to eat =(, my discipline when it comes to eating is terrible. |
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QUOTE(wai2kit @ May 26 2012, 11:17 PM) i am trying to lose weight too but my biggest problem is eating. I exercise but i still eat lol Dependent on what you eat as well. Rice, noodles, fried meats, sugary drinks, sweet desserts?Argh i just love to eat =(, my discipline when it comes to eating is terrible. Next time, try a piece of grilled chicken breast with some broccoli and carrots, and a fruit as dessert. |
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QUOTE(entryman @ May 27 2012, 01:13 AM) Dependent on what you eat as well. Rice, noodles, fried meats, sugary drinks, sweet desserts? A lot of rice usually. Sigh. Next time, try a piece of grilled chicken breast with some broccoli and carrots, and a fruit as dessert. So i'm trying out eating as per normal for lunch and breakfast and eating very little (or sometimes skipping it altogether if i don't jog at night) dinner. Is that good? |
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May 27 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(wai2kit @ May 27 2012, 07:49 AM) A lot of rice usually. Sigh. There, you have your answer. A mental barrier. An addiction to a lot of rice. No different from being addicted to gambling.So i'm trying out eating as per normal for lunch and breakfast and eating very little (or sometimes skipping it altogether if i don't jog at night) dinner. Is that good? And being hungry is not a good thing. Although sometimes intermittent fasting is a great tool if you understand more about nutrition and weight loss. But what I would do if I were on a rapid weight loss program is to constantly feed the body, but with significantly lowered calories. Achieved by lots of vegetables and some fruits that are high in fibre while being low in fructose, very clean protein without fats, and some small to moderate amounts of fats that come from fruits such as avocado, or minimally processed oils such as extra virgin olive oil. The goal here is to avoid as best as possible any vitamin and mineral deficiency, while at the same time meeting calorific goals. Rice would be a poor performer with regards to this goal, along with most other empty carbohydrates. And don't forget resistance training, to cap the loss of muscle mass. If done properly, you can forget about plain ol' jogging as its much more efficient, in terms of time cost and benefits. Exercise with a purpose. Anything without a measurable and traceable purpose is just a leisure activity. A great leisure activity for weight loss would be swimming in cold water. This post has been edited by entryman: May 27 2012, 10:03 AM |
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May 28 2012, 07:56 PM
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hi.
first of all, I'm 186cm/86kg. I have a huge tummy and manboobs. my meals, breakfast: usually a cup of milo or low fat yoghurt. lunch: small portion of spaghetti or fried noodles. dinner: veg, fruits and meat. I've managed to control my food portion to almost 1/2 of what I'm eating since the start of this month. any comments? I'm really serious about loosing my fats and weight. Should I start joining those ghetto gyms around my area? |
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May 28 2012, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ May 28 2012, 07:56 PM) hi. I've managed to lost 20kgs in half a year with proper exercise and food intake control.first of all, I'm 186cm/86kg. I have a huge tummy and manboobs. my meals, breakfast: usually a cup of milo or low fat yoghurt. lunch: small portion of spaghetti or fried noodles. dinner: veg, fruits and meat. I've managed to control my food portion to almost 1/2 of what I'm eating since the start of this month. any comments? I'm really serious about loosing my fats and weight. Should I start joining those ghetto gyms around my area? Trust me, your diet will work but it will not build any lean muscles though. We aim to build lean muscles so you will look fit, and burn fats even when you sleep. Your breakfast, is not nutrition enough. Get some good carbs when you wake up in the morning, like smoothie, but good thing though, you nailed yoghurt. Lunch should be very very healthy, filled up with protein and fiber, and eat a whole lot of it! e.g: Salad, fruits and vegetables, or small mixed rice with toufu, eggs...etc. Fried food is always your enemy when you are trying to gain lean muscles and lost weight. Dinner is nice, lots of fruits and veges. But do rmb meat, must make sure they are not fried or whatever. Boiled or Steamed or grilled are fine. Erm, joining gym to me is not that important though, you can do planking or sit up or push up in your own room. But you should RUN, do cardio and strength training together + watch your diet = very fit body. Weightlifting will burn fat too, but not as much as how cardio can take you to. Hope this helps! |
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May 29 2012, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ May 28 2012, 09:57 PM) I've managed to lost 20kgs in half a year with proper exercise and food intake control. mind giving more info about the bolded statement??Trust me, your diet will work but it will not build any lean muscles though. We aim to build lean muscles so you will look fit, and burn fats even when you sleep. Your breakfast, is not nutrition enough. Get some good carbs when you wake up in the morning, like smoothie, but good thing though, you nailed yoghurt. Lunch should be very very healthy, filled up with protein and fiber, and eat a whole lot of it! e.g: Salad, fruits and vegetables, or small mixed rice with toufu, eggs...etc. Fried food is always your enemy when you are trying to gain lean muscles and lost weight. Dinner is nice, lots of fruits and veges. But do rmb meat, must make sure they are not fried or whatever. Boiled or Steamed or grilled are fine. Erm, joining gym to me is not that important though, you can do planking or sit up or push up in your own room. But you should RUN, do cardio and strength training together + watch your diet = very fit body. Weightlifting will burn fat too, but not as much as how cardio can take you to. Hope this helps! |
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May 29 2012, 05:49 PM
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Jogging/Running to burn fat, strength training to build lean muscles.
Weightlifting is what we called anarobic exercise, is consider strength training. These types of exercise will only do toning and build lean muscles, makes you look slim but to burn fat and reduce body fat percentage, is through cardio exercise. |
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May 29 2012, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ May 28 2012, 09:57 PM) I';ve managed to lost 20kgs in half a year with proper exercise and food intake control. wow, thanks for enlightening me. Trust me, your diet will work but it will not build any lean muscles though. We aim to build lean muscles so you will look fit, and burn fats even when you sleep. Your breakfast, is not nutrition enough. Get some good carbs when you wake up in the morning, like smoothie, but good thing though, you nailed yoghurt. Lunch should be very very healthy, filled up with protein and fiber, and eat a whole lot of it! e.g: Salad, fruits and vegetables, or small mixed rice with toufu, eggs...etc. Fried food is always your enemy when you are trying to gain lean muscles and lost weight. Dinner is nice, lots of fruits and veges. But do rmb meat, must make sure they are not fried or whatever. Boiled or Steamed or grilled are fine. Erm, joining gym to me is not that important though, you can do planking or sit up or push up in your own room. But you should RUN, do cardio and strength training together + watch your diet = very fit body. Weightlifting will burn fat too, but not as much as how cardio can take you to. Hope this helps! can you suggest any more food with high carb for my breakfast..bread? I've been dunking on loads of fruits, salad and fruits today. Added on May 29, 2012, 8:53 pm QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ May 29 2012, 05:49 PM) Jogging/Running to burn fat, strength training to build lean muscles. the best is to strike a right balance between the two right? Weightlifting is what we called anarobic exercise, is consider strength training. These types of exercise will only do toning and build lean muscles, makes you look slim but to burn fat and reduce body fat percentage, is through cardio exercise. do we have any specific food to take before and after workout? Or just protein will do? This post has been edited by TechnoG: May 29 2012, 08:53 PM |
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May 31 2012, 11:22 AM
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i Was 116kg, currently 87kg, My height is around 186cm
My target weight is 83kg. My waist was 40cm,currently 35cm, Target waist is 33cm This is my workout routine Day 1 : Chest(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15) Day 2 : Shoulders(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Cardio( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km),back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15),Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25) Day 3 : back(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 4 : Legs(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15),Chest(1sets of 15), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 5 : Same as day 1 And so on I have badminton session every Tuesday. I always on the treadmill and move on to the weight lifting afterward. Did i do it too extreme?? i am afraid i can't maintain my body weigh afterward. I been on this routine for 7 months. My belly fat is so hard to lose, any suggestion??? |
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May 31 2012, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(wai2kit @ May 27 2012, 12:17 AM) i am trying to lose weight too but my biggest problem is eating. I exercise but i still eat lol honestly you should low down your eating habit especially rice..and those high fiber stuff. Argh i just love to eat =(, my discipline when it comes to eating is terrible. eat more vegetable & fruit. for snack try to have yogurt.. the most important is dont eat too many supper should not waste your money on the gym ya.. Try to join the classes too. i mean those classes provide in the gym especially body combat, zumba fitness , body pumping and etc. |
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Jun 1 2012, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(SlayerX~XX @ May 31 2012, 11:22 AM) i Was 116kg, currently 87kg, My height is around 186cm then...its your diet...check out what is your daily calorie intake amount to?My target weight is 83kg. My waist was 40cm,currently 35cm, Target waist is 33cm This is my workout routine Day 1 : Chest(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15) Day 2 : Shoulders(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Cardio( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km),back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15),Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25) Day 3 : back(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 4 : Legs(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15),Chest(1sets of 15), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 5 : Same as day 1 And so on I have badminton session every Tuesday. I always on the treadmill and move on to the weight lifting afterward. Did i do it too extreme?? i am afraid i can't maintain my body weigh afterward. I been on this routine for 7 months. My belly fat is so hard to lose, any suggestion??? |
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Jun 4 2012, 10:00 PM
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to lose weight for my wedding next year, (I'm Male) as my wife complaint lol I went to gym daily except saturday and sometime sunday if got things to do.. and for dinner i take oat, i started with just oat + hot water, terrible taste then i add 1 pack of 3 in 1 milo but my gym fren say add milo make no different already... I also eat brocoli, coliflower + carrot braised + salt only.. the thing is i wanna add into variety of diet for my dinner if not sure bored until vomit I was thinking oat kinda of like porrige and i like porrige with Marmite / Borwls (the sticky black thing) wanna ask if this thing contribute to fattening ? and new easy diet for dinner / lunch / breakfast are always welcome Thanks for helping.. Started last week 97kg 7 days pass 95.2kg Aim 70kg please help A friend also told me coliflower got sugar inside ? also fat ???? anyone can confirm this ??? |
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Jun 5 2012, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 4 2012, 10:00 PM) Hi guys, You need to lay out your daily meal and workout in order for us to give you a piece of advice. I'm trying to lose weight for my wedding next year, (I'm Male) as my wife complaint lol I went to gym daily except saturday and sometime sunday if got things to do.. and for dinner i take oat, i started with just oat + hot water, terrible taste then i add 1 pack of 3 in 1 milo but my gym fren say add milo make no different already... I also eat brocoli, coliflower + carrot braised + salt only.. the thing is i wanna add into variety of diet for my dinner if not sure bored until vomit I was thinking oat kinda of like porrige and i like porrige with Marmite / Borwls (the sticky black thing) wanna ask if this thing contribute to fattening ? and new easy diet for dinner / lunch / breakfast are always welcome Thanks for helping.. Started last week 97kg 7 days pass 95.2kg Aim 70kg please help A friend also told me coliflower got sugar inside ? also fat ???? anyone can confirm this ??? Losing weight is easy, losing fats and preserving muscle mass is another story. |
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Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Faith+1 @ Jun 5 2012, 01:09 AM) You need to lay out your daily meal and workout in order for us to give you a piece of advice. Breakfast - 3 In 1 Milo with cerealLosing weight is easy, losing fats and preserving muscle mass is another story. Lunch - Chap Fan with chicken that is not fried or curry + egg / beancurd / orangebeen with egg + vege (small portion rice) or roast chicken breast with small portion of rice. Dinner - Oat + 3 in 1 Milo or Brocolli + cauliflower + carrot braised with salt. Snack / Supper - Apple 1 or 2 depends on how hungry. GYM Trackmill - 35min = 3min walk, 7min jog, 2min walk 8min jog, 2min walk 8 ming jog, 5min walk cool down. Crosstrainner = 15min Some abs machine, you can lie on it and put leg on the end, then pull up your body by handle beside left and right (behind also can add weight) = 12times per set, 6 set with 2.5kg weight. (something like sit-up) Some abs machine, you knee on it and swing left and right - 15times per set, 6 set with 17kg weight Abs crunch - 20 times per set, 3 set. This is daily routine for weekdays, weekend only sometime free on Sunday. This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jun 5 2012, 09:27 AM |
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Jun 5 2012, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM) Breakfast - 3 In 1 Milo with cereal just abs exercise and cardio? My suggestion will be take away treadmill and one of your abs machine exercise, use those energy and strength to do weight training, chest, back, shoulder, leg. You need to build more muscle mass in order to burn fats more effective.Lunch - Chap Fan with chicken that is not fried or curry + egg / beancurd / orangebeen with egg + vege (small portion rice) or roast chicken breast with small portion of rice. Dinner - Oat + 3 in 1 Milo or Brocolli + cauliflower + carrot braised with salt. Snack / Supper - Apple 1 or 2 depends on how hungry. GYM Trackmill - 35min = 3min walk, 7min jog, 2min walk 8min jog, 2min walk 8 ming jog, 5min walk cool down. Crosstrainner = 15min Some abs machine, you can lie on it and put leg on the end, then pull up your body by handle beside left and right (behind also can add weight) = 12times per set, 6 set with 2.5kg weight. (something like sit-up) Some abs machine, you knee on it and swing left and right - 15times per set, 6 set with 17kg weight Abs crunch - 20 times per set, 3 set. This is daily routine for weekdays, weekend only sometime free on Sunday. |
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Hey guys, need some advice here.
I'm a male, height about 176cm and weight 78kg. Target to lose another 8kg more and start to work out on my muscle. Currently, my work office is on 3rd floor and I choose to walk the stairs instead of the lifts everyday. After work, I would hit the gym every monday, tuesday and thursday except saturday and sunday. Normally I will start off with 30min of cycling ( as the gym do not have threadmill) and start to do some weight lifting, sit-ups and other machines. I've been continue like this for almost 5 weeks and I already lose 2kg. (80kg before gym) For wednesday and friday, I'll have badminton session with friends. For weekend, I would follow video from Youtube (Mike Chang) doing those m-100, hardcore belly fat burn. For my diet part, I still eat everything like normal. Weekdays Morning = economic mee Lunch = normal hawker center food Dinner = less rice and more vege (home cuisine) Weekend Normally will be brunch since I always woke up late, and dinner same like weekdays. So am I doing correctly? Or do I need to do more? 5 weeks for 2kg is it normal or can do better? Thanks in advance |
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Jun 5 2012, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM) Breakfast - 3 In 1 Milo with cereal Wow, I think I'll use your diet plan for now, cause I dont have any and I dont know where to start Lunch - Chap Fan with chicken that is not fried or curry + egg / beancurd / orangebeen with egg + vege (small portion rice) or roast chicken breast with small portion of rice. Dinner - Oat + 3 in 1 Milo or Brocolli + cauliflower + carrot braised with salt. Snack / Supper - Apple 1 or 2 depends on how hungry. GYM Trackmill - 35min = 3min walk, 7min jog, 2min walk 8min jog, 2min walk 8 ming jog, 5min walk cool down. Crosstrainner = 15min Some abs machine, you can lie on it and put leg on the end, then pull up your body by handle beside left and right (behind also can add weight) = 12times per set, 6 set with 2.5kg weight. (something like sit-up) Some abs machine, you knee on it and swing left and right - 15times per set, 6 set with 17kg weight Abs crunch - 20 times per set, 3 set. This is daily routine for weekdays, weekend only sometime free on Sunday. |
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QUOTE(SlayerX~XX @ May 31 2012, 11:22 AM) i Was 116kg, currently 87kg, My height is around 186cm Me too, on diet plus daily 1 hours workout, can fell stamina and strength improve but belly still hardly remove (waist size keep stuck at 76cm My target weight is 83kg. My waist was 40cm,currently 35cm, Target waist is 33cm This is my workout routine Day 1 : Chest(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15) Day 2 : Shoulders(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Cardio( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km),back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15),Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25) Day 3 : back(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15) ,Chest(1sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 4 : Legs(6 diff workout- 3sets of 15),Chest(1sets of 15), back(1 workout of 3 sets of 15), Abs(5 diff workout- 4sets of 25), Cardio ( running on treadmill for 7 - 8km) Day 5 : Same as day 1 And so on I have badminton session every Tuesday. I always on the treadmill and move on to the weight lifting afterward. Did i do it too extreme?? i am afraid i can't maintain my body weigh afterward. I been on this routine for 7 months. My belly fat is so hard to lose, any suggestion??? |
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Jun 5 2012, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM) Breakfast - 3 In 1 Milo with cereal Your meal plan is terrible (lazy to explain) but if you're in calories deficit, you will still lose weight anyway. Lunch - Chap Fan with chicken that is not fried or curry + egg / beancurd / orangebeen with egg + vege (small portion rice) or roast chicken breast with small portion of rice. Dinner - Oat + 3 in 1 Milo or Brocolli + cauliflower + carrot braised with salt. Snack / Supper - Apple 1 or 2 depends on how hungry. GYM Trackmill - 35min = 3min walk, 7min jog, 2min walk 8min jog, 2min walk 8 ming jog, 5min walk cool down. Crosstrainner = 15min Some abs machine, you can lie on it and put leg on the end, then pull up your body by handle beside left and right (behind also can add weight) = 12times per set, 6 set with 2.5kg weight. (something like sit-up) Some abs machine, you knee on it and swing left and right - 15times per set, 6 set with 17kg weight Abs crunch - 20 times per set, 3 set. This is daily routine for weekdays, weekend only sometime free on Sunday. And for you workout, just ditch the abs exercises if you think this going to help to lose tummy fats as there is not such thing as spot reduction. You can do your cardio after workout or during OFF days. Look up for Starting Strength workout, more compound exercises and monitor your daily diet. Not only you will lose weights, but fats as well. |
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Jun 6 2012, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(Faith+1 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:59 PM) Your meal plan is terrible (lazy to explain) but if you're in calories deficit, you will still lose weight anyway. Don't mind me asking but whats the right meal plan? I'm not sure what diet to follow And for you workout, just ditch the abs exercises if you think this going to help to lose tummy fats as there is not such thing as spot reduction. You can do your cardio after workout or during OFF days. Look up for Starting Strength workout, more compound exercises and monitor your daily diet. Not only you will lose weights, but fats as well. |
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Jun 6 2012, 09:02 AM
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There are two types of carbs....simple and complex carbs....for me i'd avoid simple carbs...go for complex carbs and you need carbs for energy. There are so called refined and unrefined carbs and unrefined carbs is better than refined carbs in term of simple carbs. So search up those term and you will know more
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Jun 6 2012, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jun 6 2012, 09:02 AM) There are two types of carbs....simple and complex carbs....for me i'd avoid simple carbs...go for complex carbs and you need carbs for energy. There are so called refined and unrefined carbs and unrefined carbs is better than refined carbs in term of simple carbs. So search up those term and you will know more Thanks, found it Food Sources Carbohydrates are classified as simple or complex. The classification depends on the chemical structure of the food, and how quickly the sugar is digested and absorbed. Simple carbohydrates have one (single) or two (double) sugars. Complex carbohydrates have three or more sugars. Examples of single sugars from foods include: Fructose (found in fruits) Galactose (found in milk products) Double sugars include: Lactose (found in dairy) Maltose (found in certain vegetables and in beer) Sucrose (table sugar) Honey is also a double sugar. But unlike table sugar, it contains a small amount of vitamins and minerals. (Note: Honey should not be given to children younger than 1 year old.) Complex carbohydrates, often referred to as "starchy" foods, include: Legumes Starchy vegetables Whole-grain breads and cereals Simple carbohydrates that contain vitamins and minerals occur naturally in: Fruits Milk and milk products Vegetables Simple carbohydrates are also found in processed and refined sugars such as: Candy Regular (nondiet) carbonated beverages, such as soda Syrups Table sugar Refined sugars provide calories, but lack vitamins, minerals, and fiber. Such simple sugars are often called "empty calories" and can lead to weight gain. Also, many refined foods, such as white flour, sugar, and white rice, lack B vitamins and other important nutrients unless they are marked "enriched." It is healthiest to get carbohydrates, vitamins, and other nutrients in as natural a form as possible -- for example, from fruit instead of table sugar. Added on June 6, 2012, 10:59 am QUOTE(Faith+1 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:59 PM) Your meal plan is terrible (lazy to explain) but if you're in calories deficit, you will still lose weight anyway. RecommendationsAnd for you workout, just ditch the abs exercises if you think this going to help to lose tummy fats as there is not such thing as spot reduction. You can do your cardio after workout or during OFF days. Look up for Starting Strength workout, more compound exercises and monitor your daily diet. Not only you will lose weights, but fats as well. Most people should get between 40% and 60% of total calories from carbohydrates, preferably from complex carbohydrates (starches) and natural sugars. Complex carbohydrates provide calories, vitamins, minerals, and fiber. Foods that are high in processed, refined simple sugars provide calories, but very little nutrition. It is wise to limit these sugars. To increase complex carbohydrates and healthy nutrients: Eat more fruits and vegetables. Eat more whole-grain rice, breads, and cereals. Eat more legumes (beans, lentils, and dried peas). Here are recommended serving sizes for foods high in carbohydrates: Vegetables: 1 cup of raw vegetables, or 1/2 cup cooked vegetables, or 3/4 cup of vegetable juice Fruits: 1 medium-size fruit (such as 1 medium apple or 1 medium orange), 1/2 cup of a canned or chopped fruit, or 3/4 cup of fruit juice Breads and cereals: 1 slice of bread; 1 ounce or 2/3 cup of ready-to-eat cereal; 1/2 cup of cooked rice, pasta, or cereal; 1/2 cup of cooked dry beans, lentils, or dried peas Dairy: 1 cup of skim or low-fat milk For information about how many servings are recommended, see the article on the food guide plate. Here is a sample 2,000 calorie menu, of which 50 - 60% of the total calories are from carbohydrates: Breakfast Cold cereal 1 cup shredded wheat cereal 1 tbsp raisins 1 cup fat-free milk 1 small banana 1 slice whole-wheat toast 1 tsp soft margarine 1 tsp jelly Lunch Smoked turkey sandwich 2 ounces whole-wheat pita bread 1/4 cup romaine lettuce 2 slices tomato 3 ounces sliced smoked turkey breast 1 tbsp mayo-type salad dressing 1 tsp yellow mustard 1/2 cup apple slices 1 cup tomato juice Dinner Grilled top loin steak 5 ounces grilled top loin steak 3/4 cup mashed potatoes 2 tsp soft margarine 1/2 cup steamed carrots 1 tbsp honey 2 ounces whole-wheat dinner roll 1 tsp soft margarine 1 cup fat-free milk Snacks 1 cup low-fat fruit yogurt Source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm You mean something like this? This post has been edited by futuredarthvader: Jun 6 2012, 10:59 AM |
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Jun 6 2012, 03:22 PM
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guys. im 175-178 cm and weighted 96kg. any diet meals suggestion to slim down to 75kg in 4 months time?
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Evening.
Is this ok? 1 Coffee twice a day. Each coffee, one(1) tablespoon of sugar. 2 .Bihun. Replacing rice. But bihun are made out of rice correct? |
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Jun 7 2012, 01:11 AM
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Disclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion".
Basically losing weight is very basic maths. Energy input must be less than energy output to lose weight. You can either decrease input or increase output Every 3300 calories you reduce you lose 1kg of fat Reduce your calorie intake a day to 1400 calories, and you have -600 calories per day assuming you have a cheat day/willpower fails 1x a week you will lose approximately 1kg a week The other option is to increase output. Running 1 hour increases output by about 600 calories. Do that 6x a week and you lose 1kg fat too. You can of course combine part of both to acheive the results you want The other option is physical removal of fat There is currently on 2 methods - the generally recognised method is liposuction The newer alternative is injection lipolysis - still has not gotten FDA approval yet for cosmetic sculpting. It is only FDA approved for injection into the bloodstream to break down fatty plaques that obstruct blood vessels. Nevertheless it is widely used in US/Europe and it costs about 400-500 USD. I've gotten hold of a vial of it and I think it holds much promise. I experimented on myself. XD. Injected the left side of my tummy with the active compound, and injected the right side of my tummy with normal saline. Within a week, when I was pinching the fat on my tummy I realised the left side was bout 2cm thick whereas the right side was 3cm thick. Needless to say I am now busy injecting over my entire stomach. Added on June 7, 2012, 1:31 amDisclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion". QUOTE(edenian @ Jun 6 2012, 03:22 PM) guys. im 175-178 cm and weighted 96kg. any diet meals suggestion to slim down to 75kg in 4 months time? Very possible but you need strong willpower. Take a 1200-1400 calorie diet daily and you should reach your targetTry to do some resistance/weights too so you can maintain your muscle mass. Willpower is going to be the toughest part. I know because even this week itself though I was trying to keep to a 1400 kcal diet, I seriously exceeded it. I still did manage to lose weight though, but that was cause I was cheating with other stuff. Past 3 weeks lost 1 kg per week. Then I realised my calorie restriction was failing last week. (reduction of energy input failing) monday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), satay 4 sticks (200 calories), spaghetti (300 calories) = 1640 calories tuesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), tomyum (400 calories), fries (375 calories), double chicken burger (780 calories), coke (240 calories) = 2300 calories wednesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), triple patty burger (900 calories), satay 12 sticks (600 calories) = 2640 calories thursday - KFC snack plate (1180 calories), protein shake (640 calories), 280g beef (500 calories) = 2320 calories friday - coffee (150 calories), starbucks venti (600 calories), home cooked dinner (circa 600 calories) = 1350 calories Realising my diet was gonna fail and that there would be a :horror: gain that weekend, I started on backup plan. I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output) I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat) Net result = last week only lost 500g **** Moral of the story : willpower is what will make or break the dieting plan. If your willpower is strong enough then no problem you can reach your target. If willpower weak however This post has been edited by Altruis: Jun 7 2012, 01:31 AM |
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QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 7 2012, 01:11 AM) Disclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion". Interesting bro, thanks for sharing.Basically losing weight is very basic maths. Energy input must be less than energy output to lose weight. You can either decrease input or increase output Every 3300 calories you reduce you lose 1kg of fat Reduce your calorie intake a day to 1400 calories, and you have -600 calories per day assuming you have a cheat day/willpower fails 1x a week you will lose approximately 1kg a week The other option is to increase output. Running 1 hour increases output by about 600 calories. Do that 6x a week and you lose 1kg fat too. You can of course combine part of both to acheive the results you want The other option is physical removal of fat There is currently on 2 methods - the generally recognised method is liposuction The newer alternative is injection lipolysis - still has not gotten FDA approval yet for cosmetic sculpting. It is only FDA approved for injection into the bloodstream to break down fatty plaques that obstruct blood vessels. Nevertheless it is widely used in US/Europe and it costs about 400-500 USD. I've gotten hold of a vial of it and I think it holds much promise. I experimented on myself. XD. Injected the left side of my tummy with the active compound, and injected the right side of my tummy with normal saline. Within a week, when I was pinching the fat on my tummy I realised the left side was bout 2cm thick whereas the right side was 3cm thick. Needless to say I am now busy injecting over my entire stomach. Added on June 7, 2012, 1:31 amDisclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion". Very possible but you need strong willpower. Take a 1200-1400 calorie diet daily and you should reach your target Try to do some resistance/weights too so you can maintain your muscle mass. Willpower is going to be the toughest part. I know because even this week itself though I was trying to keep to a 1400 kcal diet, I seriously exceeded it. I still did manage to lose weight though, but that was cause I was cheating with other stuff. Past 3 weeks lost 1 kg per week. Then I realised my calorie restriction was failing last week. (reduction of energy input failing) monday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), satay 4 sticks (200 calories), spaghetti (300 calories) = 1640 calories tuesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), tomyum (400 calories), fries (375 calories), double chicken burger (780 calories), coke (240 calories) = 2300 calories wednesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), triple patty burger (900 calories), satay 12 sticks (600 calories) = 2640 calories thursday - KFC snack plate (1180 calories), protein shake (640 calories), 280g beef (500 calories) = 2320 calories friday - coffee (150 calories), starbucks venti (600 calories), home cooked dinner (circa 600 calories) = 1350 calories Realising my diet was gonna fail and that there would be a :horror: gain that weekend, I started on backup plan. I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output) I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat) Net result = last week only lost 500g **** Moral of the story : willpower is what will make or break the dieting plan. If your willpower is strong enough then no problem you can reach your target. If willpower weak however QUOTE I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output) - as in increase coffee consumption? or tea? or anything with caffeine?I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat) |
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finally i join gym. lol XD
Been kinda lazy to squeeze the time for exercise, max also about 2-3 times a week. Thus, no choice but to spend money to make myself feel heartache for wasting money to pay membership if i don't go anyway, after lost 12kgs, now maintain and wanting to build up more muscle. I do realize I have water retention problem, any pros here can guide to get rid of water retention issue? |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 7 2012, 09:56 AM) Interesting bro, thanks for sharing. I suppose that should help too. But must be tea/black coffee without creamer and cannot add sugar. Can add aspartame though.- as in increase coffee consumption? or tea? or anything with caffeine? I used caffeine in tablet form... Added on June 7, 2012, 11:42 am QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 7 2012, 10:16 AM) finally i join gym. lol XD what makes you think you have water retention problem?Been kinda lazy to squeeze the time for exercise, max also about 2-3 times a week. Thus, no choice but to spend money to make myself feel heartache for wasting money to pay membership if i don't go anyway, after lost 12kgs, now maintain and wanting to build up more muscle. I do realize I have water retention problem, any pros here can guide to get rid of water retention issue? who diagnosed it? pitting oedema over you ankles? fluid in the lungs? enlarged heart? This post has been edited by Altruis: Jun 7 2012, 11:42 AM |
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QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 7 2012, 11:36 AM) I suppose that should help too. But must be tea/black coffee without creamer and cannot add sugar. Can add aspartame though. The other day I went to the beauty center for Gua Sha and facial, they told me that my body is having a lot of water, saying I have water retention problem. After that I did some reading on net too, so unknown now. I used caffeine in tablet form... Added on June 7, 2012, 11:42 am what makes you think you have water retention problem? who diagnosed it? pitting oedema over you ankles? fluid in the lungs? enlarged heart? Even getting smaller size but a lot of flabs still |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 7 2012, 12:20 PM) The other day I went to the beauty center for Gua Sha and facial, they told me that my body is having a lot of water, saying I have water retention problem. After that I did some reading on net too, so unknown now. Well, water is 70% of what inside our body. Most slimming centre gave a good result on their therapy for the first few sessions because of they managed to rid the water weight, but not the fat. When it comes to fat, their therapy ain't working effectively thus seeing the slow result; and will make you come again and buy more sessions.Even getting smaller size but a lot of flabs still |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 7 2012, 12:54 PM) Well, water is 70% of what inside our body. Most slimming centre gave a good result on their therapy for the first few sessions because of they managed to rid the water weight, but not the fat. When it comes to fat, their therapy ain't working effectively thus seeing the slow result; and will make you come again and buy more sessions. So it's normal for me now or I'll still have to get rid of the water weight? I did body fat result before and the result is ok. I don't believe in slimming pills or what not, but not sure on that water retention they mentioned to us |
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QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 7 2012, 01:11 AM) Disclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion". True of what you said. Willpower to be discipline and abide to the diet plan and exercise schedule is the main road block. Any recommendation for diet plan and effective exercise schedule that can suit the working lifestyle and yet not too dry and bore??Basically losing weight is very basic maths. Energy input must be less than energy output to lose weight. You can either decrease input or increase output Every 3300 calories you reduce you lose 1kg of fat Reduce your calorie intake a day to 1400 calories, and you have -600 calories per day assuming you have a cheat day/willpower fails 1x a week you will lose approximately 1kg a week The other option is to increase output. Running 1 hour increases output by about 600 calories. Do that 6x a week and you lose 1kg fat too. You can of course combine part of both to acheive the results you want The other option is physical removal of fat There is currently on 2 methods - the generally recognised method is liposuction The newer alternative is injection lipolysis - still has not gotten FDA approval yet for cosmetic sculpting. It is only FDA approved for injection into the bloodstream to break down fatty plaques that obstruct blood vessels. Nevertheless it is widely used in US/Europe and it costs about 400-500 USD. I've gotten hold of a vial of it and I think it holds much promise. I experimented on myself. XD. Injected the left side of my tummy with the active compound, and injected the right side of my tummy with normal saline. Within a week, when I was pinching the fat on my tummy I realised the left side was bout 2cm thick whereas the right side was 3cm thick. Needless to say I am now busy injecting over my entire stomach. Added on June 7, 2012, 1:31 amDisclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion". Very possible but you need strong willpower. Take a 1200-1400 calorie diet daily and you should reach your target Try to do some resistance/weights too so you can maintain your muscle mass. Willpower is going to be the toughest part. I know because even this week itself though I was trying to keep to a 1400 kcal diet, I seriously exceeded it. I still did manage to lose weight though, but that was cause I was cheating with other stuff. Past 3 weeks lost 1 kg per week. Then I realised my calorie restriction was failing last week. (reduction of energy input failing) monday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), satay 4 sticks (200 calories), spaghetti (300 calories) = 1640 calories tuesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), tomyum (400 calories), fries (375 calories), double chicken burger (780 calories), coke (240 calories) = 2300 calories wednesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), triple patty burger (900 calories), satay 12 sticks (600 calories) = 2640 calories thursday - KFC snack plate (1180 calories), protein shake (640 calories), 280g beef (500 calories) = 2320 calories friday - coffee (150 calories), starbucks venti (600 calories), home cooked dinner (circa 600 calories) = 1350 calories Realising my diet was gonna fail and that there would be a :horror: gain that weekend, I started on backup plan. I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output) I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat) Net result = last week only lost 500g **** Moral of the story : willpower is what will make or break the dieting plan. If your willpower is strong enough then no problem you can reach your target. If willpower weak however Added on June 7, 2012, 2:02 pmBarley Drink is best and healthiness method to get rid of water retention problem. Although high caffeine drink like coffee and tea do the same but it is commonly known that caffeine is bad for overall health. This post has been edited by FantaPeach: Jun 7 2012, 02:02 PM |
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Barley drink without sugar or added with sugar? Will try to make it this weekend. Just hit to gym again for lunch hour. Now glad to realize that my stamina is improved tremendously
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Hi there.
Sorry to hijack this thread but I don't wanna create a thread just to ask one question.. Besides, this thread is the closest in relation to what I want to ask I have lost 4 kg after doing some serious cardio workout and jogging for the last 4-5 months now my weight is at 70kg. (my stats now: 170cm, 70kg, 32inch waist). I ve just joined a gym recently to build some muscle My question is, since I just started joining gym, and only using the machine (not even venturing to he free weight area YET accept a pair of 10 kg dumbells), and I go there on alternate days (plus weekend off). Should I consume the formula using the suggested consumption or do I have to modify it? You see I am very afraid if I drink em everyday, I would gain weight again and that would be disheartening for me If I do have to modify it.. Can someone give me some advice regarding this? Thank you guys |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 7 2012, 12:54 PM) Well, water is 70% of what inside our body. Most slimming centre gave a good result on their therapy for the first few sessions because of they managed to rid the water weight, but not the fat. When it comes to fat, their therapy ain't working effectively thus seeing the slow result; and will make you come again and buy more sessions. haha what a nice way 2 cheat more unaware customers |
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QUOTE(krypt5 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:42 AM) Tried the 5-6 meal method. No difference for me in terms of result. It just felt more irritating. Broscience sux. Lol. Bro,If you need to lose weight, I did it successful in gaining 2-3 kilo a week without changing any way of eating habit.. visit my blog : http://www.coachfahmi.blogspot.com Email me, and I will share with you the programme.. no obligation.. it work's everytime. Added on June 9, 2012, 9:13 pm QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 7 2012, 11:36 AM) I suppose that should help too. But must be tea/black coffee without creamer and cannot add sugar. Can add aspartame though. I used caffeine in tablet form... Added on June 7, 2012, 11:42 am what makes you think you have water retention problem? who diagnosed it? pitting oedema over you ankles? fluid in the lungs? enlarged heart? Bro, If you need to lose weight, I did it successful in gaining 2-3 kilo a week without changing any way of eating habit.you are right, you need to tea as antioxidant and also help to flush out toxin.... visit my blog : http://www.coachfahmi.blogspot.com. Email me, and I will share with you the programme.. no obligation.. This post has been edited by coachfahmi: Jun 9 2012, 09:13 PM |
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QUOTE(coachfahmi @ Jun 9 2012, 09:11 PM) Bro, Yeah, why don't you just said you are promoting Herbalife? BTW, sales advertisement is not allowed in this section.If you need to lose weight, I did it successful in gaining 2-3 kilo a week without changing any way of eating habit.. visit my blog : http://www.coachfahmi.blogspot.com Email me, and I will share with you the programme.. no obligation.. it work's everytime. Added on June 9, 2012, 9:13 pm Bro, If you need to lose weight, I did it successful in gaining 2-3 kilo a week without changing any way of eating habit.you are right, you need to tea as antioxidant and also help to flush out toxin.... visit my blog : http://www.coachfahmi.blogspot.com. Email me, and I will share with you the programme.. no obligation.. |
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QUOTE(redzaril @ Jun 8 2012, 10:40 AM) Hi there. If you know how much protein you should consume daily and how much calorie you need to increase your muscle mass, you will know how many serving of whey you need to consume daily.Sorry to hijack this thread but I don't wanna create a thread just to ask one question.. Besides, this thread is the closest in relation to what I want to ask I have lost 4 kg after doing some serious cardio workout and jogging for the last 4-5 months now my weight is at 70kg. (my stats now: 170cm, 70kg, 32inch waist). I ve just joined a gym recently to build some muscle My question is, since I just started joining gym, and only using the machine (not even venturing to he free weight area YET accept a pair of 10 kg dumbells), and I go there on alternate days (plus weekend off). Should I consume the formula using the suggested consumption or do I have to modify it? You see I am very afraid if I drink em everyday, I would gain weight again and that would be disheartening for me If I do have to modify it.. Can someone give me some advice regarding this? Thank you guys |
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QUOTE(redzaril @ Jun 8 2012, 10:40 AM) Hi there. If you know how much protein you should consume daily and how much calorie you need to increase your muscle mass, you will know how many serving of whey you need to consume daily.Sorry to hijack this thread but I don't wanna create a thread just to ask one question.. Besides, this thread is the closest in relation to what I want to ask I have lost 4 kg after doing some serious cardio workout and jogging for the last 4-5 months now my weight is at 70kg. (my stats now: 170cm, 70kg, 32inch waist). I ve just joined a gym recently to build some muscle My question is, since I just started joining gym, and only using the machine (not even venturing to he free weight area YET accept a pair of 10 kg dumbells), and I go there on alternate days (plus weekend off). Should I consume the formula using the suggested consumption or do I have to modify it? You see I am very afraid if I drink em everyday, I would gain weight again and that would be disheartening for me If I do have to modify it.. Can someone give me some advice regarding this? Thank you guys |
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QUOTE(redzaril @ Jun 8 2012, 10:40 AM) Hi there. Hey, I've just gotten delivery of two 4lb tubs of the Nitrotech Hardcore Chocolate. Same same.Sorry to hijack this thread but I don't wanna create a thread just to ask one question.. Besides, this thread is the closest in relation to what I want to ask I have lost 4 kg after doing some serious cardio workout and jogging for the last 4-5 months now my weight is at 70kg. (my stats now: 170cm, 70kg, 32inch waist). I ve just joined a gym recently to build some muscle My question is, since I just started joining gym, and only using the machine (not even venturing to he free weight area YET accept a pair of 10 kg dumbells), and I go there on alternate days (plus weekend off). Should I consume the formula using the suggested consumption or do I have to modify it? You see I am very afraid if I drink em everyday, I would gain weight again and that would be disheartening for me If I do have to modify it.. Can someone give me some advice regarding this? Thank you guys Haha. I'm just taking 2 scoops after each workout. 3 times a day - mampusla that much protein. |
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QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 9 2012, 09:34 PM) Hey, I've just gotten delivery of two 4lb tubs of the Nitrotech Hardcore Chocolate. Same same. Hahaha.. Yup.. mamposla with that amount of protein Haha. I'm just taking 2 scoops after each workout. 3 times a day - mampusla that much protein. Actually, I ve contacted someone but dunno whether tis can be implement with your training schedule or not. Since I workout on alternate days..he suggest I take two servings (breakfast and dinner) on non training day and three servings (add one b4 workout) on training day... Oh ya, 1 serving means 1 scoop. Ahahha.. Imma answering my own question.. P/S: Since you are starting to use the same supplement, maybe we can motivate one another hehehe |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 9 2012, 09:19 PM) Yeah, why don't you just said you are promoting Herbalife? BTW, sales advertisement is not allowed in this section. I'm sharing some of the way you can try if other method fails.. It works for me thou..you can gain/lose or sustain depending on method you use. It pretty simple.. |
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QUOTE(redzaril @ Jun 9 2012, 09:55 PM) Hahaha.. Yup.. mamposla with that amount of protein Haha. That sounds OKla. but my diet quite protein rich, so I plan to only use on workout days.Actually, I ve contacted someone but dunno whether tis can be implement with your training schedule or not. Since I workout on alternate days..he suggest I take two servings (breakfast and dinner) on non training day and three servings (add one b4 workout) on training day... Oh ya, 1 serving means 1 scoop. Ahahha.. Imma answering my own question.. P/S: Since you are starting to use the same supplement, maybe we can motivate one another hehehe Bankruptla kalau guna too much. XD Current status: 5th week diet, total loss 5kg d. Yay! |
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Thank god i have this kind thread which helps me motivate to loose weight.
Finally i able to stable up my self with all high nutrition foods and of course my protein as supplement. Really cut down high carbohydrate food eg : rice(indian cant live without rice) and bread which i think i been craving for weeks. Green apple,Oats,Banana,Vegetable and 2 hours of workout (1 1/2 hour cardio and 1/2 hour weight lifting. Happy that ihv loose around 3kg in 4th week.Current weigh 131kg. |
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*makaveli
you can buy gardenia breakthru if you craving for bread,calorie very low. |
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It'strue that this thread motivate ppl for weight loss. Nowadays I still work out for cardio and extra exercises like squats and weight lifting. Sadly lately my appetite changed badly. I used to eat a lot for high protein and fiber food ,even now still but the amount is much lesser but I don't feel hungry, normal? ?
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Oven baked. One whole chicken leg, 3 chicken fillet pieces, one brocolli and one carrot. I think i eat too much for lunch :/
Added on June 11, 2012, 2:51 pm QUOTE(redzaril @ Jun 8 2012, 10:40 AM) Hi there. 2 servings 3 times per day? Woah. I only take 2 servings one time per day, after workout. I'm taking ON Gold StandardSorry to hijack this thread but I don't wanna create a thread just to ask one question.. Besides, this thread is the closest in relation to what I want to ask I have lost 4 kg after doing some serious cardio workout and jogging for the last 4-5 months now my weight is at 70kg. (my stats now: 170cm, 70kg, 32inch waist). I ve just joined a gym recently to build some muscle My question is, since I just started joining gym, and only using the machine (not even venturing to he free weight area YET accept a pair of 10 kg dumbells), and I go there on alternate days (plus weekend off). Should I consume the formula using the suggested consumption or do I have to modify it? You see I am very afraid if I drink em everyday, I would gain weight again and that would be disheartening for me If I do have to modify it.. Can someone give me some advice regarding this? Thank you guys This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 11 2012, 02:51 PM |
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 11 2012, 12:20 PM) Thanks for the suggestion.I will start take one of these days. How about wholemeal bread ? QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 11 2012, 01:13 PM) It'strue that this thread motivate ppl for weight loss. Nowadays I still work out for cardio and extra exercises like squats and weight lifting. Sadly lately my appetite changed badly. I used to eat a lot for high protein and fiber food ,even now still but the amount is much lesser but I don't feel hungry, normal? ? I think its normal.Even now,after strict diet,i really dont feel much appetite to eat.Where after my gym,come back around 8.30 take warm show and half glass Wholemeal Oats and green apple. |
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QUOTE(makaveli @ Jun 11 2012, 03:04 PM) Thanks for the suggestion. Is it? Last time breakfast alone well be having two eggs, one glass milk and oats, then apple,I will start take one of these days. How about wholemeal bread ? I think its normal.Even now,after strict diet,i really dont feel much appetite to eat. Where after my gym,come back around 8.30 take warm show and half glass Wholemeal Oats and green apple. but now after gym at 6, breakfast only one glass milk and an apple QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 11 2012, 03:07 PM) Currently learning how to cook at home. I'll be staying out soon for college, i cant rely on outside food. Ahahaha! Cool, I enjoy cooking but problem is no one help me finish it |
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I'm currently planning to lose body fat, gain muscle mass
My BMI is slightly overweight and i'm currently consuming ON Gold Standard Whey Just wanna how many scoops do i have to consume per day? My meals :- Breakfast :- A cup of milk, 2-3 eggs ( 1 yolk only ) Lunch :- Chicken Whole Leg, 3 Chicken Fillets, Vegetables ( One Broc, One Carrot ) All oven baked, 0% salt Tea :- A cup of milk Dinner :- Ordinary asian dinner. Vegetables, Tofu, Chicken ( Curry, Baked, Bla bla ) ( Under catering cause my family is busy ) I consume 2 scoops of ON Gold Standard Whey after weight training, before cardio My workout routine :- Day 1 :- Abs, Biceps, Back Day 2 :- Triceps, Shoulders, Chest Day 3 :- Legs, Lower Back ( Spine ) cause i have some lower back problems, physiotherapist told me to work on my lower back and the cycle repeats I spend at least 28 out of 31 days in the gym Am i doing it right? Consuming 2 scoops of ON Gold Standard? Some people has been taking what, 2 scoops 3 times per day? Pretty insane for me. Cause i'm afraid i'll overdose protein intake. I'm 18, 78kgs, 175cm Thanks |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 11 2012, 03:11 PM) Is it? Last time breakfast alone well be having two eggs, one glass milk and oats, then apple, same as my girlfriend.she call me to come over and ask me to finish her food.thats maybe another reason that i gain in this 2 years.but now after gym at 6, breakfast only one glass milk and an apple Cool, I enjoy cooking but problem is no one help me finish it |
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what should you eat when you're hungry? like tea time? is it the normal high protein food of eggs etc?
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 11 2012, 08:46 PM) I guess cutting mostly revolve around eggs huh? So I was thinking about other type of food? Instead of eggs tiap2 hari. |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 11 2012, 10:02 PM) okay, sounds like a plan. |
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 11 2012, 10:03 PM) I guess cutting mostly revolve around eggs huh? I got sick and tired of eggs. I'll have rolled raw oats and milk sometimes So I was thinking about other type of food? Instead of eggs tiap2 hari. |
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jun 11 2012, 10:07 PM) Because easy QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 11 2012, 10:09 PM) okay, sounds like a plan. Haha, somehow is a plan la. Everyday pack a few type of fruits go office and just munch it when hungry. Biscuits I don't take, sometimes I also eat junk foods, once in a blue moon then OK la |
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Let say i go on a low calorie diet, zero carb and still jog+sprint (like HIIT) everyday for 30mins... Can i lose this tummy of mine? Would like to go for Brad Pitt Fight Club physique rather than body builder Arnold type.. Here is my details...
Body Mass Index: 21.7 kg/m2 Waist-to-Height ratio: 0.50 Percent Body Fat: 19.2% Lean Body Mass: 108.3 lb i got it from here: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html |
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QUOTE(shyghost @ Jun 12 2012, 08:01 PM) Let say i go on a low calorie diet, zero carb and still jog+sprint (like HIIT) everyday for 30mins... Can i lose this tummy of mine? Would like to go for Brad Pitt Fight Club physique rather than body builder Arnold type.. Here is my details... Zero carbs? Definitely gonna fail.Body Mass Index: 21.7 kg/m2 Waist-to-Height ratio: 0.50 Percent Body Fat: 19.2% Lean Body Mass: 108.3 lb i got it from here: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html And if you meant lowering amount of carbs. By how much? And what for? |
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QUOTE(shyghost @ Jun 13 2012, 08:21 AM) Hmm... ok, lowering my carbs intake for the purpose of achieving a flat tummy (not necessarily a six pack, well… not that soon, I mean) My waist now is at 33inch. Be wary of the source of information.You don't exactly need to worry about lowering or eliminating carbs, what's more important is reconsidering your food type. For example, replace rice with more vegetables and legumes. |
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QUOTE(shyghost @ Jun 12 2012, 08:01 PM) Let say i go on a low calorie diet, zero carb and still jog+sprint (like HIIT) everyday for 30mins... Can i lose this tummy of mine? Would like to go for Brad Pitt Fight Club physique rather than body builder Arnold type.. Here is my details... Not only are you 99% likely to fail, if in the 1% event you succeed, you are not gonna look so much Brad Pitt as African famine victim. Body Mass Index: 21.7 kg/m2 Waist-to-Height ratio: 0.50 Percent Body Fat: 19.2% Lean Body Mass: 108.3 lb i got it from here: http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html LBM 108.3 lb, Brad Pitt had about 8% Body fat in Fight Club. That means your weight will be around 115lbs which is give or take 55kgs. You will look like a absolute stick. Eat meat Lift weights Eat vegetables Btw, your waist size is at 33in, this means you are not that fat anyways - there's no real need to cut |
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Managed to shed off 12kgs in about 3 months + time. I reduce my carbs intake, did cardio 4-5 times a week. Counting calories and voila, 12kgs. Hehe
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 14 2012, 08:40 AM) Commitment is the key! Just got back from my morning workout, did afterburn training circuit.Added on June 14, 2012, 12:36 pmGuys! Seasonings like Basil Leaves & Cinnamon Powder, are they healthy? This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 14 2012, 12:36 PM |
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Does taking protein shake helps to lose weight or will it actually makes one gain instead? Without doing any strength exercises?
I'm asking out of curiosity only. |
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 13 2012, 11:44 AM) Be wary of the source of information. Ok, noted... already replace rice with others. Thank you for your input You don't exactly need to worry about lowering or eliminating carbs, what's more important is reconsidering your food type. For example, replace rice with more vegetables and legumes. QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 13 2012, 03:45 PM) Not only are you 99% likely to fail, if in the 1% event you succeed, you are not gonna look so much Brad Pitt but as an African famine victim. Still when I tighten my ab, i can rub the six packs under 1-2inch layer of fat. If I can't get the six packs to push up, I just wanna get rid of the ab fat so when I relax my stomach (breath out) it does not look like a muffin top in a skinny low waist jeans. No offence to muffin. LBM 108.3 lb, Brad Pitt had about 8% Body fat in Fight Club. That means your weight will be around 115lbs which is give or take 55kgs. You will look like a absolute stick. Eat meat Lift weights Eat vegetables Btw, your waist size is at 33in, this means you are not that fat anyways - there's no real need to cut Eat meat - ok, eat vege - ok, but here I thought lifting weights gonna get myself bulky like arnie which is the opposite result I wanna get. I just wanna get lean but cut and define muscle, definitely not aiming to look skinny, straight and a flat body. Thank you for your notes. I really appreciate it |
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Do this everyday at home..
100% sure you will lost your weight and you also can reduce your tummy / burn calorie this is a part of zumba dance My Webpage Body combat This post has been edited by StrawberryGirL: Jun 15 2012, 02:26 PM |
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 14 2012, 07:48 PM) Does taking protein shake helps to lose weight or will it actually makes one gain instead? Without doing any strength exercises? Protein shake wont help you lose weight. It depends on your calorie intake. Some say if you take protein shakes without doing any exercise, you'll get fat. I take protein shakes everyday after workout only and i'm still losing weight I'm asking out of curiosity only. Added on June 15, 2012, 5:00 pm QUOTE(StrawberryGirL @ Jun 15 2012, 02:20 PM) Do this everyday at home.. Losing weight, the fun way!100% sure you will lost your weight and you also can reduce your tummy / burn calorie this is a part of zumba dance My Webpage Body combat This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 15 2012, 05:00 PM |
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Need some advise here. I'm 170cm 68kg.
My daily meal is: Breakfast Tuna with 2 slice wholemeal bread + low fat milk or 2 half boiled egg with 2 slice wholemeal bread + low fat milk Lunch Small rice with veggie/potatoes, tofu, egg and chicken Dinner Small rice with veggie, egg, fish/chicken I've been doing cardio on stationery bike for 6 times per week, each time 30-40 mins. After that will be on dumb bell for around 10-15 mins. Do you guys think this is the correct way for me to reduce the bf% in my body? Any advise is much appreciated This post has been edited by xing87: Jun 15 2012, 06:16 PM |
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jun 15 2012, 05:58 PM) Need some advise here. I'm 170cm 68kg. I would advice you to reduce on cardio and spend more time on weight training if you wanna look buff and rippedMy daily meal is: Breakfast Tuna with 2 slice wholemeal bread + low fat milk or 2 half boiled egg with 2 slice wholemeal bread + low fat milk Lunch Small rice with veggie/potatoes, tofu, egg and chicken Dinner Small rice with veggie, egg, fish/chicken I've been doing cardio on stationery bike for 6 times per week, each time 30-40 mins. After that will be on dumb bell for around 10-15 mins. Do you guys think this is the correct way for me to reduce the bf% in my body? Any advise is much appreciated Weight training also burns body fat, dont forget Try and reduce on carbs though |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 15 2012, 05:00 PM) Protein shake wont help you lose weight. It depends on your calorie intake. Some say if you take protein shakes without doing any exercise, you'll get fat. I take protein shakes everyday after workout only and i'm still losing weight Well, ya I didn't think that just taking protein shakes alone will help to lose weight. My bro has this thinking though. He is now starting on protein shakes (with milk summore!) and only doing 30mins cardio once a week, which I told him isn't enuff. He is very stubborn and kept thinking that protein shakes will help him lose weight just because a friend advised him to do so. He is taking it as one meal replacement which I guess isn't that bad but still, I don't see how it will help him lose weight without doing more exercise along with drinking the shakes. |
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 16 2012, 12:15 PM) Well, ya I didn't think that just taking protein shakes alone will help to lose weight. My bro has this thinking though. He is now starting on protein shakes (with milk summore!) and only doing 30mins cardio once a week, which I told him isn't enuff. He is very stubborn and kept thinking that protein shakes will help him lose weight just because a friend advised him to do so. He is taking it as one meal replacement which I guess isn't that bad but still, I don't see how it will help him lose weight without doing more exercise along with drinking the shakes. If your brother use it as a meal replacement, he will lose the weight. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 16 2012, 01:08 PM) But wont he lose weight in an unhealthy way? Even the tub states "Dont use this as a meal replacement" Yeah. That is true. You can lose weight if you take protein as a meal replacement, but it is not healthy and even the tubs say that it shouldn't be used as meal replacement but still your brother opted to listen to his friend. Tell him that he is wrong. If he want a meal replacement, ask him to buy real meal replacement product such as Herbalife etc2. Still, nothing beats the old dieting and exercising method |
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You should visit my blog:
www.coachfahmi.blogspot.com I had the same problem as you before and now I lose 12 kg in 2 months.. Now only I can join the gym as no more knee pain. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 16 2012, 01:08 PM) But wont he lose weight in an unhealthy way? Even the tub states "Dont use this as a meal replacement" Can't be any unhealthier than the usual Malaysian food, e.g. char koay teow or nasi lemak.In fact, it is much healthier if compared to such foods. Added on with milk, that's even better. The only lacking thing would be a significant source of vitamins and minerals, which the usual foodstuff as mentioned above don't provide anyway. |
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 16 2012, 10:01 PM) Can't be any unhealthier than the usual Malaysian food, e.g. char koay teow or nasi lemak. Malaysian food is really unhealthy indeed. Homecooked meal are the best.In fact, it is much healthier if compared to such foods. Added on with milk, that's even better. The only lacking thing would be a significant source of vitamins and minerals, which the usual foodstuff as mentioned above don't provide anyway. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 16 2012, 10:03 PM) Actually it would be foolish to say food is unhealthy. In actual fact what's unhealthy is the selection process. For example, what's lacking in most diets are vegetables and legumes, very lacking. They are compensated with rice instead. |
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 16 2012, 10:07 PM) Actually it would be foolish to say food is unhealthy. In actual fact what's unhealthy is the selection process. For example, what's lacking in most diets are vegetables and legumes, very lacking. They are compensated with rice instead. Malaysian food nowadays i guess? |
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I need help here. Since CNY, I have started my weight loss plan. Before that, my weight is 99 kg,173cm.
Now I am 90kg,173cm. I sprint(run fast and rest continuously) 30 mins everyday for about 3.25km(65 lamp posts) Didnt take breakfast(sleep til very late since i am final year student lol), lunch eat rice,(meat,vege,egg)any of 2, and dinner only take oat with 2-3big spoons of sugars(without sugar it is yucky lol) Sometimes supper(not frequent,once in 2 weeks) with roti bawang/kosong with teh o ais kosong. In addition, I do take dumbbell for biceps on arms for about 200 times per everyday.. Er, for fun,not to increase muscle mass, just because my brother got dumb bells XD I every tues will go to uni clinic to measure weight, and consistently drop within 0.5-2kg. I do understand that my max intake of calories is 2000 per day calculated from internet. Now the problem is, when it reaches 90 or 89.5, it cant go further more, and remain same though add another activity:cycling for 3.25km every night around 11pm. another problem occurs as I feel no energy when running,not because of tired or lack of oxygen, oni feel better if i eat more abit during lunch. Anyone can help me?as my target is to reduce until 70-80kg. 10 more kg to go. I am graduating,so maybe someone can suggest a better plan for me? lets say everyday jog 30 mins, breakfast with 4 empty breads + nescafe, lunch rice(vege+egg+meat any 2), dinner(i cant choose for dinner,have to eat whatever mum cook==). what else i can do? plz help |
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 17 2012, 10:15 PM) I need help here. Since CNY, I have started my weight loss plan. Before that, my weight is 99 kg,173cm. What's up Kenneth!Now I am 90kg,173cm. I sprint(run fast and rest continuously) 30 mins everyday for about 3.25km(65 lamp posts) Didnt take breakfast(sleep til very late since i am final year student lol), lunch eat rice,(meat,vege,egg)any of 2, and dinner only take oat with 2-3big spoons of sugars(without sugar it is yucky lol) Sometimes supper(not frequent,once in 2 weeks) with roti bawang/kosong with teh o ais kosong. In addition, I do take dumbbell for biceps on arms for about 200 times per everyday.. Er, for fun,not to increase muscle mass, just because my brother got dumb bells XD I every tues will go to uni clinic to measure weight, and consistently drop within 0.5-2kg. I do understand that my max intake of calories is 2000 per day calculated from internet. Now the problem is, when it reaches 90 or 89.5, it cant go further more, and remain same though add another activity:cycling for 3.25km every night around 11pm. another problem occurs as I feel no energy when running,not because of tired or lack of oxygen, oni feel better if i eat more abit during lunch. Anyone can help me?as my target is to reduce until 70-80kg. 10 more kg to go. I am graduating,so maybe someone can suggest a better plan for me? lets say everyday jog 30 mins, breakfast with 4 empty breads + nescafe, lunch rice(vege+egg+meat any 2), dinner(i cant choose for dinner,have to eat whatever mum cook==). what else i can do? plz help Based on my diet plan with results :- From what i've learned, breakfast is really important. In fact, i read this article which says that having eggs for breakfast helps you lost weight. Totally cut off rice for lunch. Rice plays alot of factor especially when it comes to losing weight. Where as for dinner, have a simple light dinner, prob a bowl of salad with chicken breast. Try your very best to reduce on sugar and salt. I know its hard but you dont have a choice. Sugar is really really bad. I only have one can of soda per month. Totally cut on supper, never have meals after 8pm. Really unhealthy dude especially roti bawang/kosong. Packed with unhealthy carbs. Teh O Ais kosong, packed with unhealthy diluted sugar. There's no point working out hard when you cant control your diet, like some of them say 'muscles are made in the kitchen the most'. Eventhough you go to clinic all the time, losing weight doesnt mean you lose body fat mass. Dont forget about water retention ( sweat ). This is my routine everyday :- Bfast :- 2 Eggs. If too lazy to cook, a cup of raw rolled oats and milk Lunch :- Oven baked chicken legs ( sometimes breast ) with vegetables. Sometimes i'll have Salmon Dinner :- My family is busy, so i cater food. I'll stop eating when i'm not feeling hungry, feel slightly abit full Gym :- 10 mins warmup on treadmill, incline 8 constant. Speed 4, then Speed 12, then back to Speed 4, Then back to speed 12. Change every 30 seconds. Yes, it's really tiring. Remember, finish when you're done, not when you're tired. Then i'll move on to weights. Weight training about 1-2 hours. Consistent weight training, meaning shorter rest time. Then i'll go for cycling classes ( one class burns approx 500 calories, i'll only cycle 3 times per week ) I did this for 3 months. My results :- 88.8kgs --> 76.4kgs in 3 months I'm pretty sure you'll do better if you totally cut off on sugar and salt. I'm not disciplined enough, i have ice cream and hamburgers sometimes |
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hi gannicholas ,your outcome is effective within 3 months! just a few questions below which i hope you can answer if you don't mind:
1) totally cut off of rice -> without rice,don't you feel no energy when running?i sometimes even take livita or redbull to burst energy before running 2)weight training for about 2-3 hours. wow tats tiring ><may i know your total spent of time in exercising per day is? 3) lets say I plan to have 1 hour of exercise everyday, can i purely just jog(or sprint)? cuz infront of my house there is a jog lane, quite convenient to do so. is it ok if i don do weight training? I prefer to look skinny rather than muscular because I have a quite wide bone structure =( 4) eat dinner before or after workout? Thanks! |
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:38 AM) 1) totally cut off of rice -> without rice,don't you feel no energy when running?i sometimes even take livita or redbull to burst energy before running Well you'd just have to run harder to burn off that rice or energy drink which had no health benefits. What's the point of taking it then. |
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 17 2012, 10:15 PM) I need help here. Since CNY, I have started my weight loss plan. Before that, my weight is 99 kg,173cm. The exercise that you do is called aerobic exercise. Sure it is good to burn the fat but the problem with aerobic exercise is that, it also burn your muscle and that is the hard truth. You know that you have a 2000kcal of calorie you need to eat a day but with that 9 kg of weight that you lose, it might be 50% fat and 50% muscle, 70% fat and 30% muscle or any other value. When you lose your muscle, your BMR will drop a lot. When your BMR drop, your calorie maintenance will drop thus you have lower calorie to eat daily (From 2000kcal maybe drop to 1800kcal). Unless you alter your diet according to your new calorie intake, you will not lose weight. Now I am 90kg,173cm. I sprint(run fast and rest continuously) 30 mins everyday for about 3.25km(65 lamp posts) Didnt take breakfast(sleep til very late since i am final year student lol), lunch eat rice,(meat,vege,egg)any of 2, and dinner only take oat with 2-3big spoons of sugars(without sugar it is yucky lol) Sometimes supper(not frequent,once in 2 weeks) with roti bawang/kosong with teh o ais kosong. In addition, I do take dumbbell for biceps on arms for about 200 times per everyday.. Er, for fun,not to increase muscle mass, just because my brother got dumb bells XD I every tues will go to uni clinic to measure weight, and consistently drop within 0.5-2kg. I do understand that my max intake of calories is 2000 per day calculated from internet. Now the problem is, when it reaches 90 or 89.5, it cant go further more, and remain same though add another activity:cycling for 3.25km every night around 11pm. another problem occurs as I feel no energy when running,not because of tired or lack of oxygen, oni feel better if i eat more abit during lunch. Anyone can help me?as my target is to reduce until 70-80kg. 10 more kg to go. I am graduating,so maybe someone can suggest a better plan for me? lets say everyday jog 30 mins, breakfast with 4 empty breads + nescafe, lunch rice(vege+egg+meat any 2), dinner(i cant choose for dinner,have to eat whatever mum cook==). what else i can do? plz help About your tiredness, that is the sign of lack of energy. Eat high GI carbs before exercising for your energy. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:23 AM) The exercise that you do is called aerobic exercise. Sure it is good to burn the fat but the problem with aerobic exercise is that, it also burn your muscle and that is the hard truth. You know that you have a 2000kcal of calorie you need to eat a day but with that 9 kg of weight that you lose, it might be 50% fat and 50% muscle, 70% fat and 30% muscle or any other value. When you lose your muscle, your BMR will drop a lot. When your BMR drop, your calorie maintenance will drop thus you have lower calorie to eat daily (From 2000kcal maybe drop to 1800kcal). Unless you alter your diet according to your new calorie intake, you will not lose weight. How come?Any exercise will indirectly train certain part of our muscles, isnt? for instance, jogging would train our leg's muscle. I don't understand why I will lose my muscle if I purely exercise rather than going to gym for dumbbells.. But you might be right that my BMR drops. As everyday i use 2000kcal as my guideline, suppose 1 day net reduce 1100kcal will lead to 1kg lost per weak (7700kcal consumption = 1 kg weight loss), now it is no longer working in this way. only explanation is my BMR drops About your tiredness, that is the sign of lack of energy. Eat high GI carbs before exercising for your energy. wiki states that high glucose or GI food will lead to obesity, is it appropriate to consume before exercising? Normally we eat dinner before or after exercise?I mean the final meal of the day. |
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at this time, you should take only really healthy food. not the bad sugar and all. why not replace the 2 tablespoon sugar with banana. the roti canai with wholegrain bread + no sugar peanut butter.
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:38 AM) hi gannicholas ,your outcome is effective within 3 months! just a few questions below which i hope you can answer if you don't mind: Hi kenneth 1) totally cut off of rice -> without rice,don't you feel no energy when running?i sometimes even take livita or redbull to burst energy before running 2)weight training for about 2-3 hours. wow tats tiring ><may i know your total spent of time in exercising per day is? 3) lets say I plan to have 1 hour of exercise everyday, can i purely just jog(or sprint)? cuz infront of my house there is a jog lane, quite convenient to do so. is it ok if i don do weight training? I prefer to look skinny rather than muscular because I have a quite wide bone structure =( 4) eat dinner before or after workout? Thanks! 1. Never take livita or redbull. Extremely high in sugar. I used to bring along a bottle of 100 plus when i workout, nowadays i stop due to the amount of sugar content in it. I get carbs from oats. I usually feel energized before i workout because i'll always take a 30 minutes short nap before i head to the gym. After my 10 minutes warmup on cardio, i'll do one set of pushup to pump in some blood into my head. I'll feel more energized. 2. Weight training 1-2 hours, sorry. Hmm. i'll usually workout 27 out of 31 days. Let's just say i workout everyday in a random week. I'll spend at least 3 hours in the gym, 3 times per week. The rest 2 hours. Remember, it doesnt matter how long you spend time in the gym. It all matters on how much effort you put on working out. 3. If you prefer to look skinny than muscular, why not? 4. That i dont know, i have not done any research on that. I usually eat after workout cause i cant go to the gym that late at night |
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Jun 18 2012, 12:58 PM
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haha.. true also. I will eliminate sugars from now onwards..ya better don take livita, the drinks is more sugary than u expected..very concerntrated especially the honey 1..but why salt also has to be reduced?salt can be eliminated by sweating out right?
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 11:50 AM) How come?Any exercise will indirectly train certain part of our muscles, isnt? for instance, jogging would train our leg's muscle. I don't understand why I will lose my muscle if I purely exercise rather than going to gym for dumbbells.. But you might be right that my BMR drops. As everyday i use 2000kcal as my guideline, suppose 1 day net reduce 1100kcal will lead to 1kg lost per weak (7700kcal consumption = 1 kg weight loss), now it is no longer working in this way. only explanation is my BMR drops 1. Yes, all exercise train your intended body part but I've read somewhere in bodybuilding.com section about this thing. Tried to search it, maybe I'll post it here if I found it. But the thing is, have you seen a long distance runner? How is their physique? And compared to sprinters, they have good muscular physique because they incorporate weight training into their routine.wiki states that high glucose or GI food will lead to obesity, is it appropriate to consume before exercising? Normally we eat dinner before or after exercise?I mean the final meal of the day. 2. If you lose fat, you must alter your BMR as fat also contribute to BMR value although not as much as muscle. But then, since you are not doing any specific exercise that increase your muscle mass, you might lose your muscle thus lowering down your BMR value. Even when people who in cutting phase continue with their weight training. Why? It is because to minimize he amount of muscle loss during cutting process. 3. Disregard my advice about GI but you still need to consume carbs before doing exercises. Most people who opted for weight training consume carbs meal 1 hour prior to exercise. I don't because I train fasted. QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 18 2012, 12:48 PM) Hi kenneth 3 hours per session in the gym or total of 3 hours?1. Never take livita or redbull. Extremely high in sugar. I used to bring along a bottle of 100 plus when i workout, nowadays i stop due to the amount of sugar content in it. I get carbs from oats. I usually feel energized before i workout because i'll always take a 30 minutes short nap before i head to the gym. After my 10 minutes warmup on cardio, i'll do one set of pushup to pump in some blood into my head. I'll feel more energized. 2. Weight training 1-2 hours, sorry. Hmm. i'll usually workout 27 out of 31 days. Let's just say i workout everyday in a random week. I'll spend at least 3 hours in the gym, 3 times per week. The rest 2 hours. Remember, it doesnt matter how long you spend time in the gym. It all matters on how much effort you put on working out. 3. If you prefer to look skinny than muscular, why not? 4. That i dont know, i have not done any research on that. I usually eat after workout cause i cant go to the gym that late at night |
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sounds confusing. lets summarize out a general way for overweight people like me.
1) no extra sugar, no can drinks, no junk food 2) exercise daily(sprinting or jogging) after work for about 30 mins to 1 hour,another 1 hour of workout in muscle pumping. then only dinner. 3) dinner eat plain oat, lunch normal with less rice and lots of vege, breakfast eat plain breads(4pcs) or 1 egg & 2 plain breads 4) no supper after 8pm. Is that ok? |
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Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:11 PM) sounds confusing. lets summarize out a general way for overweight people like me. 1. Very true.1) no extra sugar, no can drinks, no junk food 2) exercise daily(sprinting or jogging) after work for about 30 mins to 1 hour,another 1 hour of workout in muscle pumping. then only dinner. 3) dinner eat plain oat, lunch normal with less rice and lots of vege, breakfast eat plain breads(4pcs) or 1 egg & 2 plain breads 4) no supper after 8pm. Is that ok? 2. I would advice you to do weight training first then cardio exercise. You need a lot of energy for weight training, whatever energy left is used for cardio. 3. It totally depends on your calorie intake. I would suggest you to avoid the carb but eat slow digesting protein prior to sleep. This will give your body a steady amount of protein in order to repair your muscle (if you do weight training). 4. If you sleep at 10 pm, do no 3 at 10 pm. But it totally depends on your calorie intake and how you portion them throughout the day. Let say, breakfast 20%. lunch 35%, dinner 30% and supper is 15% of calorie intake. 5. The best way to lose fat would be weight training. Why? Weight training if done right would lead to increase of muscle mass thus increasing your BMR thus increasing your calorie maintenance. High calorie maintenance would able you to eat lots of food without worrying about increase in fat (unless you created a calorie surplus). This post has been edited by alien9: Jun 18 2012, 01:23 PM |
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additionally. take good multivitamin. a healthy body should burn fat more effectively.
Try to reduce your carb and replace with lean protein such as chicken breast, fish, lean meat, egg whites. To fill yo up during meal, eat more vege, sufficient lean protein. Reduce the carb. This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Jun 18 2012, 02:01 PM |
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Jun 18 2012, 05:12 PM
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haiz,i cant imagine i need to keep in such a lifestyle for remaining of my life in order to stay healthy =(
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:59 PM) 1. Yes, all exercise train your intended body part but I've read somewhere in bodybuilding.com section about this thing. Tried to search it, maybe I'll post it here if I found it. But the thing is, have you seen a long distance runner? How is their physique? And compared to sprinters, they have good muscular physique because they incorporate weight training into their routine. total of 3 hours 2. If you lose fat, you must alter your BMR as fat also contribute to BMR value although not as much as muscle. But then, since you are not doing any specific exercise that increase your muscle mass, you might lose your muscle thus lowering down your BMR value. Even when people who in cutting phase continue with their weight training. Why? It is because to minimize he amount of muscle loss during cutting process. 3. Disregard my advice about GI but you still need to consume carbs before doing exercises. Most people who opted for weight training consume carbs meal 1 hour prior to exercise. I don't because I train fasted. 3 hours per session in the gym or total of 3 hours? Added on June 18, 2012, 10:38 pm QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:11 PM) sounds confusing. lets summarize out a general way for overweight people like me. Nooo, dont take plain bread at all. Unhealthy carbs. Try your best to reduce on carbs, really. Worst come to worst wholemeal bread, at least it has grains1) no extra sugar, no can drinks, no junk food 2) exercise daily(sprinting or jogging) after work for about 30 mins to 1 hour,another 1 hour of workout in muscle pumping. then only dinner. 3) dinner eat plain oat, lunch normal with less rice and lots of vege, breakfast eat plain breads(4pcs) or 1 egg & 2 plain breads 4) no supper after 8pm. Is that ok? This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 18 2012, 10:38 PM |
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 18 2012, 05:12 PM) haiz,i cant imagine i need to keep in such a lifestyle for remaining of my life in order to stay healthy =( When u see result coming out, it will surely motivate you. HeheU can plan your diet not to be that bland and boring. Work out Mon - Fri for at least an hour a day. Start with cardio cause it's the most easiest and cheapest. Break loose on Sat and Sun. Eat you favourite meal. |
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 19 2012, 12:18 PM) When u see result coming out, it will surely motivate you. Hehe That is what i always do. Lose weights on weekdays, gain weight on weekends U can plan your diet not to be that bland and boring. Work out Mon - Fri for at least an hour a day. Start with cardio cause it's the most easiest and cheapest. Break loose on Sat and Sun. Eat you favourite meal. |
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ya,after i lost weight for 9kg, people around me keep praising me, and it makes me more confident as well..i will continue to work harder! hehe =)
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 19 2012, 02:48 PM) It's better for you to just consume your favourite food / having a cheat meal as long as you are within calorie maintenance. You don't have to follow your calorie deficit requirement but having created a good amount of calorie deficit for 5 days and be ruined by a two days cheat meal is not worthwhile. But, if it keeps you motivated, why not?For me, I have a 6 days clean healthy food within my cutting macro and one day of a bit of a cheat meal. Maybe a serving of McD, or a TGV popcorn and that is good enough for me. |
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How do you guys measure your calorie intake? And knowing how much to take?
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 19 2012, 04:56 PM) Average for women is 2000 cal per day to maintain. First u need to know your BMR then u can calculate you actual needs for daily cal intake.To keep track on your calories intake, u can use myfitnesspal. One of the best apps i have been using to keep track on my cal. |
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Jun 19 2012, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 19 2012, 09:22 PM) This question i wanted to ask. Any specific calculation guys? Prob something to do with heigh x 100 divided by weight bla bla bla Male: BMR = (height in centimeters x 6.25) + (weight in kilograms x 9.99) - (age x 4.92) + 5.Female: BMR = (height in centimeters x 6.25) + (weight in kilograms x 9.99) - (age x 4.92) - 161. But the more accurate calculations is if you have the body fat equation. |
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To find your Body Fat % with just a measuring tape, use this (page 13 onwards)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « To find Lean Body Mass (LBM), » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « To find Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR), » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « To find Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE), multiply BMR with the appropriate physical activity multiplier, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 21 2012, 02:50 AM |
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 19 2012, 05:07 PM) Average for women is 2000 cal per day to maintain. First u need to know your BMR then u can calculate you actual needs for daily cal intake. Whoa! So many things! To keep track on your calories intake, u can use myfitnesspal. One of the best apps i have been using to keep track on my cal. Well, I never bothered to calculate the cal thought just maintain high protein low carbs diet then ok already Even though it work for me |
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anyone knows why salt is not advisable to be taken that much when in diet?
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i had gained 15kilo! how is easiest way to burn all that ?
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QUOTE(kenneth1314 @ Jun 20 2012, 10:55 PM) http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_salt_bad_for_youAnd a from what i've heard, i;m not really sure whether its true or not, the more salt u consume, the harder for you to sweat. Added on June 20, 2012, 11:19 pmI have a feeling that there's something wrong with my diet. I kinda feel tired before i go to the gym eversince i reduce on my calorie intake. My eyes gets tired and stuff, etc etc. Is there anything wrong somewhere? :/ Breakfast :- either 2 eggs & milk or Oats N' Milk Lunch :- Oven baked chicken leg, vegetables Dinner :- Catered food Now i'm trying to consume 3 chicken fillets, oven baked before i work out to keep myself going Added on June 20, 2012, 11:20 pm QUOTE(yarusaru @ Jun 20 2012, 11:00 PM) Easiest way? Take fat burner pills. Which i would suggest not to. There isnt any short cut to lose weight This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 20 2012, 11:20 PM |
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Whats good (drink/food) to have after a hardcore work out? I find that my muscles takes a long time to recover
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 21 2012, 01:08 AM) Whats good (drink/food) to have after a hardcore work out? I find that my muscles takes a long time to recover Key to quick recovery:At least 6 hours of sleep, the more the better Daily diet consisting of at least 1.6g of protein per kg of body weight Nutritious diet with no major nutrient deficiency Slow digesting protein, e.g. casein/milk before sleep Whey protein blend (isolate and concentrate) pre-workout High GI carbs + whey isolate post workout If money is not an issue, BCAAs post workout That should be all. This post has been edited by DT1: Jun 21 2012, 03:21 AM |
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You need healthy meal with sufficient protein for your recovery. Usually after workout, you need to take protein like protein shake or a solid meal within 1 hour after workout.
additionally, if you are taking too long time recovering, this may be due to you overtrain or did too much volume per muscle part. For example if you do 18++ set of chest exercise. I think this is over train. Try to reduce to 12-16 set per muscle part. |
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 21 2012, 01:17 AM) Key to quick recovery: At least 6 hours of sleep, the more the better Daily diet consisting of at least 1.6g of protein per kg of body weight Nutritious diet with no major nutrient deficiency Slow digesting protein, e.g. casein/milk before sleep Whey protein blend (isolate and concentrate) pre-workout High GI carbs + whey isolate post workout If money is not an issue, BCAAs post workout That should be all. QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 21 2012, 08:25 AM) You need healthy meal with sufficient protein for your recovery. Usually after workout, you need to take protein like protein shake or a solid meal within 1 hour after workout. Thanks DT1 & kurtkob78, what protein supplements should I get? Brand? not sure in the long run is it healthy? i heard too much protein/calcium causes kidney stones etc.additionally, if you are taking too long time recovering, this may be due to you overtrain or did too much volume per muscle part. For example if you do 18++ set of chest exercise. I think this is over train. Try to reduce to 12-16 set per muscle part. |
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QUOTE(birain @ May 1 2012, 02:55 PM) anyone know how to loose those stubborn tummy fat? my weight is down but, the spare tyre is still around, soft and flabby belly My advise to you is to change your diet to clean diet and workout/exercise consistently. If you're seeing progress, but slow. I recommend you to look into Cellucor D4 Thermal Shock as it's the one and only User Friendly Fat Destroyer that appears in INC 500 USA. |
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QUOTE(8starfitness @ Jun 21 2012, 06:12 PM) My advise to you is to change your diet to clean diet and workout/exercise consistently. If you're seeing progress, but slow. I recommend you to look into Cellucor D4 Thermal Shock as it's the one and only User Friendly Fat Destroyer that appears in INC 500 USA. What does it mean by user friendly? |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 21 2012, 10:41 PM) It is not the amount of protein shakes' serving that make you grow but whether you managed to hit your daily protein requirement. If let say I have a 200g protein intake daily and only managed to consume 150lbs through whole food, I need to acquire another 50g from another source which would be from whey protein shakes. A serving of whey gives average of 25g protein thus I need to consume 2 servings to meet the total protein requirement. If you fail to do so, you might see some gain but not optimality. Added on June 21, 2012, 10:53 pm QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 21 2012, 03:39 PM) Thanks DT1 & kurtkob78, what protein supplements should I get? Brand? not sure in the long run is it healthy? i heard too much protein/calcium causes kidney stones etc. It is just a myth. But it will happened to a person who suffered a kidney disease. If you don't have any, then there shouldn't be any problem.This post has been edited by alien9: Jun 21 2012, 10:53 PM |
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first week of training - 850gm lost, mostly water haha. Did 10km set jogs on treadmill for 3 days, the rest are cardio and swimming.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 11:49 AM) about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* Added on June 25, 2012, 11:58 am QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 11:49 AM) about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* This post has been edited by futuredarthvader: Jun 25 2012, 11:58 AM |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 25 2012, 11:58 AM) about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* Ahaha ok what 45 minutes is not bad! What speed? Nowadays i start with incline 0, speed 12 for the first 2 mintues, then speed 14 for the next 2 minutes then speed 20 till failure. Girls looking, thats the best thing ever mannAdded on June 25, 2012, 11:58 am about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 12:21 PM) Ahaha ok what 45 minutes is not bad! What speed? Nowadays i start with incline 0, speed 12 for the first 2 mintues, then speed 14 for the next 2 minutes then speed 20 till failure. Girls looking, thats the best thing ever mann Dude...speed 12?! sprinting ah?! hahahaha i start with incline 1, 2 mins at 5.5 (fast walking) then 8.5 for the rest until i hit 10km. Hahahaha, I'm not that fit to be looked at. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 25 2012, 01:15 PM) My diet is quiet bad, as I have to entertain clients and attend two wedding dinners last week and this week. The horror, not the mention the temptations |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 25 2012, 01:21 PM) My diet is quiet bad, as I have to entertain clients and attend two wedding dinners last week and this week. The horror, not the mention the temptations It is good that you notice that it is bad. I guess you can alter your diet to become more healthy but still you need to entertain clients right so... You still can eat but keep it to minimum. Hate to see that all the weeks of exercising go down to the toilet just like that right? |
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yay, I'm showing good progress. I just got on the scale, and I'm 82kg. I'm pretty sure it's not my body losing water cos I drank like 4 cups of water before getting on the scale.
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 25 2012, 01:21 PM) My diet is quiet bad, as I have to entertain clients and attend two wedding dinners last week and this week. The horror, not the mention the temptations oh gawd foods being served in wedding dinners. ENDLESS. HAHAAdded on June 25, 2012, 9:07 pm QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 25 2012, 05:07 PM) yay, I'm showing good progress. I just got on the scale, and I'm 82kg. I'm pretty sure it's not my body losing water cos I drank like 4 cups of water before getting on the scale. WOW! Congratulations! I went from 88 to 76.4 in 3 months, now i'm currently stuck at 76.4 for two damn weeks already p/s: I would like to thank everyone here especially alien9 for the advice. Not doing anymore cardio, just weight training only. This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 25 2012, 09:07 PM |
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jun 25 2012, 05:07 PM) yay, I'm showing good progress. I just got on the scale, and I'm 82kg. I'm pretty sure it's not my body losing water cos I drank like 4 cups of water before getting on the scale. That is good man. Congratulation on your progress. Now it is my turn to use all my advices to start back my fat loss journey. Been exactly one month from not doing any exercise and controlling diet due to lots of projects needed to be done. p/s: I would like to thank everyone here especially alien9 for the advice. Not doing anymore cardio, just weight training only. |
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Jun 26 2012, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 25 2012, 01:26 PM) It is good that you notice that it is bad. I guess you can alter your diet to become more healthy but still you need to entertain clients right so... You still can eat but keep it to minimum. Hate to see that all the weeks of exercising go down to the toilet just like that right? HAha yeah man,avoiding all those fast food and soft drinks and oily food. btw is tuna and wholemeal bread advisable? without mayo etc. with egg whites maybe? im trying to find alternatives but not completely shutting out food that i like. |
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Jun 26 2012, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 26 2012, 09:15 AM) HAha yeah man,avoiding all those fast food and soft drinks and oily food. btw is tuna and wholemeal bread advisable? without mayo etc. with egg whites maybe? im trying to find alternatives but not completely shutting out food that i like. Whole meal bread is good. If possible try to get Gardenia Breakthru which have low GI. For tuna in can, get ayam brand Tuna in mineral water which is the healthiest tuna u can ever get. Egg white is great. One whole egg white without the yolk is only 17 cal which is super low in calories. Steamed chicken breast is also goos |
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Jun 26 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 09:06 PM) oh gawd foods being served in wedding dinners. ENDLESS. HAHA Congrats bro. U can do it. I started with about your weight at 86kgs (once 89 b4). In 4 months time, I have lost a lot kgs. I am now 73kgs and looking forward to my idol weight at 68kgs. Let's do it together. I weight once every two week and so far the scale is moving slowly. About 1kg per two weeks.Added on June 25, 2012, 9:07 pm WOW! Congratulations! I went from 88 to 76.4 in 3 months, now i'm currently stuck at 76.4 for two damn weeks already |
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Jun 26 2012, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 09:06 PM) WOW! Congratulations! I went from 88 to 76.4 in 3 months, now i'm currently stuck at 76.4 for two damn weeks already QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 25 2012, 10:42 PM) That is good man. Congratulation on your progress. Now it is my turn to use all my advices to start back my fat loss journey. Been exactly one month from not doing any exercise and controlling diet due to lots of projects needed to be done. thanks. Good luck with your cutting too. |
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Jun 26 2012, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(yarusaru @ Jun 20 2012, 11:00 PM) It's hard to gain 15 kilo too, expect hard way to burn them off.pay for what you did =) QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 12:21 PM) Ahaha ok what 45 minutes is not bad! What speed? Nowadays i start with incline 0, speed 12 for the first 2 mintues, then speed 14 for the next 2 minutes then speed 20 till failure. Girls looking, thats the best thing ever mann wow... are you sure for that? 12km/h warm up?? our best runner in LYN runners also cannot warm up with that kind of speed. summore 20 km/h?? you can challenge those Kenya in local marathon events already.. That is like 3 min / km pace, you will finish your 10k race in 30 minutes, plus your first 2 minute in 12 km/h, 2 minutes in 14 km/h, you total expected finishing time for 10k = 31:24 http://track.rtrt.me/?appid=4fd179f2546798...-10&l=FINISH-10 Fastest Malaysian 10k runner is only 35:24 for distance of 10.6km. your expected finishing time = 33:12, bravo a new malaysian running star is born! |
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 26 2012, 02:23 PM) It's hard to gain 15 kilo too, expect hard way to burn them off. Harharhar you are so funny pay for what you did =) wow... are you sure for that? 12km/h warm up?? our best runner in LYN runners also cannot warm up with that kind of speed. summore 20 km/h?? you can challenge those Kenya in local marathon events already.. That is like 3 min / km pace, you will finish your 10k race in 30 minutes, plus your first 2 minute in 12 km/h, 2 minutes in 14 km/h, you total expected finishing time for 10k = 31:24 http://track.rtrt.me/?appid=4fd179f2546798...-10&l=FINISH-10 Fastest Malaysian 10k runner is only 35:24 for distance of 10.6km. your expected finishing time = 33:12, bravo a new malaysian running star is born! Added on June 26, 2012, 3:24 pm QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jun 26 2012, 01:30 PM) Congrats bro. U can do it. I started with about your weight at 86kgs (once 89 b4). In 4 months time, I have lost a lot kgs. I am now 73kgs and looking forward to my idol weight at 68kgs. Let's do it together. I weight once every two week and so far the scale is moving slowly. About 1kg per two weeks. thanks bro. I weigh every morning and night. Ahahahaha! Stuck at 76.4 for 2 weeks already, sadly This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 26 2012, 03:25 PM |
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Jun 26 2012, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 26 2012, 03:23 PM) Harharhar you are so funny 5 minutes treadmill workput? haha tht's interesting.. usually i start from walking, 5 ~6k, then proceed on to 8~9, stay around 10, then final push around 12, before gradually slowing down back to cool down..Added on June 26, 2012, 3:24 pm thanks bro. I weigh every morning and night. Ahahahaha! Stuck at 76.4 for 2 weeks already, sadly |
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Jun 26 2012, 04:01 PM
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What to ask, is Heart Rate Monitor (Timex, Polar..etc) good to use? Need something motivate to push me.
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Jun 26 2012, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 26 2012, 03:48 PM) 5 minutes treadmill workput? haha tht's interesting.. usually i start from walking, 5 ~6k, then proceed on to 8~9, stay around 10, then final push around 12, before gradually slowing down back to cool down.. haha warmup bro. I'm reducing on cardio now, focusing on weight training |
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Jun 26 2012, 08:29 PM
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hmm...Any guide on weight training? Nowadays I'm only doing cardio in gym, after that will be rushing off to work, wonder if without PT what can I do with the gym >"<
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Jun 26 2012, 08:42 PM
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guys...can anyone give me an certain exercise that help me lose some weight ..
im 63kg now and planning on losing 3kg ..no rush .. do i have to do aerobics all the way? |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jun 26 2012, 08:29 PM) hmm...Any guide on weight training? Nowadays I'm only doing cardio in gym, after that will be rushing off to work, wonder if without PT what can I do with the gym >"< You can always self train like what I've done when I am starting to weightlifting until now. Here is a link for you to read: http://www.stronglifts.com A good compound routine exercise great for beginner. QUOTE(achik1990 @ Jun 26 2012, 08:42 PM) guys...can anyone give me an certain exercise that help me lose some weight .. You can always opted for aerobic exercises but if you want something different, try the link above. It is called stonglifts 5x5im 63kg now and planning on losing 3kg ..no rush .. do i have to do aerobics all the way? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 26 2012, 09:06 PM) You can always self train like what I've done when I am starting to weightlifting until now. Thank you very much. I'll give it a try for my next visit to gym. I'm not a very strong person. Only manage to get some stamina from gym. Now hoping to build more muscle and tone up the flabby partHere is a link for you to read: http://www.stronglifts.com A good compound routine exercise great for beginner. You can always opted for aerobic exercises but if you want something different, try the link above. It is called stonglifts 5x5 |
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Jun 28 2012, 02:23 PM
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Hiya.
92kgs 165cm 35 years old. FAT. Borderline HBP was almost a 100kgs a a couple of months ago b4 i started dieting/exercising. 2 normal meals a day - breakfast (oats) and lunch (rice + veg + a bit of meat) and homemade celery + apple juice for dinner - acceptable or not? My place has a fully equiped gym. No trainers though. Am currently doing 30 minutes of cardio workout on the threadmill every other day (a total distance of 2.5 - 3kms) plus some basic weight training (sigh, 12 x 2 rotations of bench pressing and 12 x 2 dumbell lifts, puny me can only do 10 pounds sigh x 100). Am I on the right track or do i need to gym everyday? Am usually knackered after every session so am worried I will be overdoing it. Thanks. |
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Jun 28 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 28 2012, 03:07 PM) Hiya. 92kgs, 165cm, woah.92kgs 165cm 35 years old. FAT. Borderline HBP was almost a 100kgs a a couple of months ago b4 i started dieting/exercising. 2 normal meals a day - breakfast (oats) and lunch (rice + veg + a bit of meat) and homemade celery + apple juice for dinner - acceptable or not? My place has a fully equiped gym. No trainers though. Am currently doing 30 minutes of cardio workout on the threadmill every other day (a total distance of 2.5 - 3kms) plus some basic weight training (sigh, 12 x 2 rotations of bench pressing and 12 x 2 dumbell lifts, puny me can only do 10 pounds sigh x 100). Am I on the right track or do i need to gym everyday? Am usually knackered after every session so am worried I will be overdoing it. Thanks. Based on your meals.. Well, based on my meal, i cut off carbs. Totally cut off carbs for 3 months, now i'm having carbs for breakfast only ( oats ) i totally cut off rice. If you really need to eat rice in your meal, make sure its brown rice. High in fibre. For bread, avoid white bread. Regarding on the apple juice, what kind of apple juice? Freshly blended or those sold in the supermarkets? Cause those sold in supermarkets are high in sugar, eventhough some stated "NO SUGAR ADDED" but there is still sugar. Always check the nutrition content before you buy a product. Cut off carbs, sugar, oil and salt and you'll do good for sure. Avoid junk food too. Trainers isnt necessary, dont worry. This guy, he told me that it doesnt matter if we're physically strong. All it matters is that we have to be mentally strong. A strong mentality is the main key that motivates ourselves to lose weight. Regarding on cardio, try and go for high intensity cardio. For example, run on tredmill for 30 seconds, rest 30 seconds and repeat or set the tredmill maximum incline and take a really slow jog. Resistance is the key, resistance is your friend. 3 months, i go to the gym at least 27 out of 31 days, i lost 12kgs in 3 months. Just avoid working on your same group muscles everyday. Have a 48 hours rest. Let's say you're doing biceps today, do triceps tomorrow and do legs the day after tomorrow. All these are only based on my experience Seniors, correct me if im wrong |
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Jun 28 2012, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 28 2012, 03:07 PM) Hiya. On the weight loss process, you are on the right track. Congratulations on that 92kgs 165cm 35 years old. FAT. Borderline HBP was almost a 100kgs a a couple of months ago b4 i started dieting/exercising. 2 normal meals a day - breakfast (oats) and lunch (rice + veg + a bit of meat) and homemade celery + apple juice for dinner - acceptable or not? My place has a fully equiped gym. No trainers though. Am currently doing 30 minutes of cardio workout on the threadmill every other day (a total distance of 2.5 - 3kms) plus some basic weight training (sigh, 12 x 2 rotations of bench pressing and 12 x 2 dumbell lifts, puny me can only do 10 pounds sigh x 100). Am I on the right track or do i need to gym everyday? Am usually knackered after every session so am worried I will be overdoing it. Thanks. On you exercise routine, except for the cardio, you are almost derail the train. Haha. Nevermind, everyone make mistakes. If you want to lose the weight, you can continue to do cardio exercises such as jogging, swimming, bicycling etc2. But, the best way to lose weight is to do weightlifting. If you want to have the ability to eat your favourite food without worrying about getting fat easily or you just want a small yet muscular body, you have to do weightlifting. You can always start with reading the pinned thread here to get to know some basics on how to weightlifting. |
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oic.
so i should cut down on carbs even more and hit the gym after work daily? there's no danger in losing too much weight too soon right? I've lost close to 8 kilos in about 5 weeks. |
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 28 2012, 03:23 PM) oic. 8 kilos in 5 weeks is good but not healthy. Our body are made up from water, muscles and fats and etc. When we lose weight, the one that we want to lose is fat because fat is bad. Losing weight just like what you've done is bad because you are losing fat+muscle at the same time due tu very low calorie intake. Muscle is very good. Why? It makes you to be able to eat more without getting fat fast. Do read on one of my link below about BMR.so i should cut down on carbs even more and hit the gym after work daily? there's no danger in losing too much weight too soon right? I've lost close to 8 kilos in about 5 weeks. |
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 28 2012, 03:23 PM) oic. Umm i would advice you to cut down on carbs and spend more time at the gym so i should cut down on carbs even more and hit the gym after work daily? there's no danger in losing too much weight too soon right? I've lost close to 8 kilos in about 5 weeks. This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 28 2012, 03:40 PM |
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thanks! reading now.
Added on June 28, 2012, 4:34 pmSo it is gonna be:- Weight training one day, interval training the next. rinse and repeat but leave 1 day as rest day. Eat less rice, less bread more veg and meat. Lose fat, gain muscles? This post has been edited by madmoz: Jun 28 2012, 04:34 PM |
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 28 2012, 03:41 PM) thanks! reading now. Cut off white rice and white bread if possibleAdded on June 28, 2012, 4:34 pmSo it is gonna be:- Weight training one day, interval training the next. rinse and repeat but leave 1 day as rest day. Eat less rice, less bread more veg and meat. Lose fat, gain muscles? |
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Jun 29 2012, 12:37 AM
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totally cut rice for 2 week.
feel like in hell. but the best part : manage to cut 1kg! yeah. Let get healthy friends! |
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Jun 29 2012, 01:08 AM
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Jun 29 2012, 09:10 AM
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man..didnt hit the gym this week yet, feeling all so shitty. working late, due dates omg! target for this month failed kaw kaw
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Jun 29 2012, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 29 2012, 12:37 AM) totally cut rice for 2 week. Cutting rice plays an important role in losing weight for me man ahahahaah.feel like in hell. but the best part : manage to cut 1kg! yeah. Let get healthy friends! Added on June 29, 2012, 1:46 pm QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jun 29 2012, 09:10 AM) man..didnt hit the gym this week yet, feeling all so shitty. working late, due dates omg! target for this month failed kaw kaw Hate it when my schedule is packed. I feel shitty if i skip gym twice in a row. Ahahah! So far never skipped twice in a row yet, hopefully i dont have to until i get those abs i always wanted This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 29 2012, 01:46 PM |
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From my experience,
To be slim and healthy, remember E.A.R.N Exercise, Attitude, Rest and Nutrition Practice these then u may slim down healthily and without extreme sports needed and definitely no hungriness in the period, maintain the lifestyle then hard to be fat again^^ PM me if u need further guideline how to do it=) |
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Jun 29 2012, 05:50 PM
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been nursing injuries at home for a week =(
leg itchy to run again.. but better know else it will add salt to wound.. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 29 2012, 01:08 AM) hi bro i dont know if im doing this right or not, but this is my meal plan and exercise : breakfast : oat with milk 1 bowl lunch : salad and steam chicken, sometimes change chicken with fish dinner : before 8 pm, nesvita 1 cup and yes, first 3 day feel very starving , but to wait for my lunch and dinner im eating various of nut exercise : 1 week only 4 day because pack of classes in university. if i go jog, will aim for 3 round around 2 km. before jog i eat 2 pcs of banana. please help me if im wrong. now this routine had been do for 2 week . |
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Mmmmmm, my usual weekends. I usually need to spend 2 hours in the gym, now currently have shortage of time. Always thinking whether should i go or should i not. Since i wont be having enough time, should i go to the gym and do circuit training or should i not. But then, i cant be going to the gym everyday, i need at least a day of in a week apparently. But then i eat alot during weekends, make me feel as if i'm becoming a lazy potato all over again. Ahahahaa. Weekend gym problems
Added on June 30, 2012, 4:52 pm QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 30 2012, 02:36 PM) hi bro Holy crap you eat so little i dont know if im doing this right or not, but this is my meal plan and exercise : breakfast : oat with milk 1 bowl lunch : salad and steam chicken, sometimes change chicken with fish dinner : before 8 pm, nesvita 1 cup and yes, first 3 day feel very starving , but to wait for my lunch and dinner im eating various of nut exercise : 1 week only 4 day because pack of classes in university. if i go jog, will aim for 3 round around 2 km. before jog i eat 2 pcs of banana. please help me if im wrong. now this routine had been do for 2 week . This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jun 30 2012, 04:52 PM |
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 30 2012, 02:36 PM) hi bro The thing here is that, you have a very low calorie intake. Probably around 1200++ kcal excluding the nuts. Your goal is lose weight and this diet obviously work with you so far but you have to remember this, very low calorie intake is not healthy because you will lose fat+muscle. We want to keep the muscle as much as possible, because muscle is the main source of metabolism; the calorie burning source be it from food or fat. If you have low metabolism, you will have low capability to burn calorie thus your weight loss result will start to diminished.i dont know if im doing this right or not, but this is my meal plan and exercise : breakfast : oat with milk 1 bowl lunch : salad and steam chicken, sometimes change chicken with fish dinner : before 8 pm, nesvita 1 cup and yes, first 3 day feel very starving , but to wait for my lunch and dinner im eating various of nut exercise : 1 week only 4 day because pack of classes in university. if i go jog, will aim for 3 round around 2 km. before jog i eat 2 pcs of banana. please help me if im wrong. now this routine had been do for 2 week . So, what is the proper way to lose weight? You need to consume at least 80% of your calorie maintenance. No lesser than that. Eat more protein, reduce carb intake and do exercises be it aerobic or anerobic exercises. This post has been edited by alien9: Jun 30 2012, 08:18 PM |
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jun 30 2012, 03:36 PM) hi bro with this, i can see that you getting skinnier and losing your muscle as well. hahai dont know if im doing this right or not, but this is my meal plan and exercise : breakfast : oat with milk 1 bowl lunch : salad and steam chicken, sometimes change chicken with fish dinner : before 8 pm, nesvita 1 cup and yes, first 3 day feel very starving , but to wait for my lunch and dinner im eating various of nut exercise : 1 week only 4 day because pack of classes in university. if i go jog, will aim for 3 round around 2 km. before jog i eat 2 pcs of banana. please help me if im wrong. now this routine had been do for 2 week . |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 30 2012, 06:43 PM) The thing here is that, you have a very low calorie intake. Probably around 1200++ kcal excluding the nuts. Your goal is lose weight and this diet obviously work with you so far but you have to remember this, very low calorie intake is not healthy because you will lose fat+muscle. We want to keep the muscle as much as possible, because muscle is the main source of metabolism; the calorie burning source be it from food or fat. If you have low metabolism, you will have low capability to burn calorie thus your weight loss result will start to diminished. So, what is the proper way to lose weight? You need to consume at least 80% of your calorie maintenance. No lesser than that. Eat more protein, reduce carb intake and do exercises be it aerobic or anerobic exercises. QUOTE(kaoshi @ Jul 1 2012, 01:38 AM) thx for your advice. im seriously need to loss my weight. 4 years ago i was 60kg and very active with rugby tournament.and this year i feel so ashamed with myself gaining weight until 120 kg because my life style was changing. and last 3 week i feel very pain at my chest so i go to doctor and check my cholesterol, bp and the doctor say that i need to slim down. hurm. thinking to go to kevin zahri seminar for advice. bro can i use harris-benedict theory in calories? so my basic calories is 2421.4076 so i need to cut it until 1937.12 calories (80%) ? This post has been edited by tedisgodlike: Jul 1 2012, 03:11 AM |
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jul 1 2012, 02:43 AM) thx for your advice. im seriously need to loss my weight. 4 years ago i was 60kg and very active with rugby tournament. Harris-Benedict equation is a good way to know your TDEE@calorie maintenance. But how did you get your BMR? For me, the equation that I've used is the equation that calculate together with your body fat percentage.and this year i feel so ashamed with myself gaining weight until 120 kg because my life style was changing. and last 3 week i feel very pain at my chest so i go to doctor and check my cholesterol, bp and the doctor say that i need to slim down. hurm. thinking to go to kevin zahri seminar for advice. bro can i use harris-benedict theory in calories? so my basic calories is 2421.4076 so i need to cut it until 1937.12 calories (80%) ? |
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can u help calculate mine?
23 years old , 120kg , 175cm |
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last week i was 75.6kgs. This week i'm currently 77.kgs. My Sunday meal was epic shytz. Heavy korean food for lunch, wedding dinner afterwards. God bless my soul
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Jul 3 2012, 11:35 AM
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gardenia wholegrain bread 2 slices (57g) 124kcal.
what exactly does this mean? is it a high carb item that should be avoided? thanks nutrition gurus. |
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Jul 3 2012, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 11:35 AM) gardenia wholegrain bread 2 slices (57g) 124kcal. That would mean that, the two bread slices weight 57g and it have 124kcal. what exactly does this mean? is it a high carb item that should be avoided? thanks nutrition gurus. These are the main nutrition info for 2 slices of gardenia wholegrain: Calories 145kcal Total Carbs 29 g Total Fat 1 g Protein 7 g To count your calorie, you just need to include these number into your diet. As easy as that. About the carb, it depends on your goal. You can eat anything as long as it suits your macro and it is healthy. |
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Jul 3 2012, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 11:35 AM) gardenia wholegrain bread 2 slices (57g) 124kcal. i went bread shopping just now at the grocery store nearbywhat exactly does this mean? is it a high carb item that should be avoided? thanks nutrition gurus. I bought the one in the green plastic. Gardenia. With sunflower seed if im not mistaken because it has the lowest carb, highest calcium compared to the others. http://www.gardenia.com.my/fibremeal.html |
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Jul 3 2012, 12:28 PM
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You should have buy Gardenia Breakthru. It have the lost GI value.
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Jul 3 2012, 12:53 PM
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http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
TDEE calculator? Mine says 2965. That's in calories right? If 2 pieces of bread = 124kilo calories then i am doomed? one piece of bread already over? or did i get my conversions wrong, i.e 124kcal = 124 calories? |
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Jul 3 2012, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 12:53 PM) http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html Nope. That calculator is wrong. Mine should be 2500ish kcal but it stated that I have 3263 kcal.TDEE calculator? Mine says 2965. That's in calories right? If 2 pieces of bread = 124kilo calories then i am doomed? one piece of bread already over? or did i get my conversions wrong, i.e 124kcal = 124 calories? kcal is kilo calories which is what all the foods are using and our metabolism value. To make it simple, my TDEE would be 2500kcal and 2 pieces of bread is 124kcal. |
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Jul 3 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 2 2012, 11:29 AM) last week i was 75.6kgs. This week i'm currently 77.kgs. My Sunday meal was epic shytz. Heavy korean food for lunch, wedding dinner afterwards. God bless my soul Try to control your diet this week..It's okay to indulge once in a while. But remember to exercise more! |
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Jul 3 2012, 02:29 PM
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Jul 3 2012, 02:38 PM
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Jul 3 2012, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 3 2012, 01:59 PM) Nope. That calculator is wrong. Mine should be 2500ish kcal but it stated that I have 3263 kcal. Oh, so lets just assume that the calculator is off by the same %, hence mine should be around 2300kcal. 80% would then be 1840kcal, which is like 14 pieces of bread?kcal is kilo calories which is what all the foods are using and our metabolism value. To make it simple, my TDEE would be 2500kcal and 2 pieces of bread is 124kcal. So approximately how many kcal would a plate of chap fan (1/4 portion of normal rice) + 2 greens and a small piece of meat be? |
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Jul 3 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 02:39 PM) Oh, so lets just assume that the calculator is off by the same %, hence mine should be around 2300kcal. 80% would then be 1840kcal, which is like 14 pieces of bread? I don't think that it is correct that way. You must know your real TDEE as it will ensure that you will lose weight or not. So approximately how many kcal would a plate of chap fan (1/4 portion of normal rice) + 2 greens and a small piece of meat be? This is a way to find about TDEE by DT1: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=52659636 2 pieces of bread would be 124kcal. So, to meet the 1840kcal, you would need 30 pieces of bread (1 bread would be 62kcal) but I don't think that someone would just eat 30 pieces of bread a day no? |
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Jul 3 2012, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Dayang Kemboja @ Jul 3 2012, 02:38 PM) Based on diet, best tip i can give is to reduce on fats, oil, carbs, sugar and salt. Let's just say i'm preparing a whole chicken leg today, i'll take the time to scrap and remove all the fats in the chicken leg. Some people they just cook them without removing the fats. Reduce on sugar and salt, replace ordinary cooking oil with olive oil. If you're working out mostly everyday, have carbs in the morning/afternoon. Try your best and keep your carbs level low at night. Eat alot of fruits and vegetables too ( i seldom eat fruits |
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Jul 3 2012, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 3 2012, 02:50 PM) Based on diet, best tip i can give is to reduce on fats, oil, carbs, sugar and salt. Let's just say i'm preparing a whole chicken leg today, i'll take the time to scrap and remove all the fats in the chicken leg. Some people they just cook them without removing the fats. Reduce on sugar and salt, replace ordinary cooking oil with olive oil. If you're working out mostly everyday, have carbs in the morning/afternoon. Try your best and keep your carbs level low at night. Eat alot of fruits and vegetables too ( i seldom eat fruits So it's best to not eat fried stuffs right?But I will find it hard to get steamed or boiled food for every meal. Thanks for your advice anyway. I do go for a run three to four times a week. I am seeing some results already |
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Jul 3 2012, 03:18 PM
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been checking some of the internet sites, seems like chinese cooking is rather high in calories due to the oil.
means 'chap fan' or mixed rice for lunch is a no go what other substitutes then? bread? mi hun soup? |
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Jul 3 2012, 03:26 PM
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I tend to feel hungry at night around 11pm.
And I can't fall asleep with a hungry stomach. So will tend to eat either junk food (biscuits) or instant noodles. It's very bad for my health.. Is there a solution to this?? Thanks everyone! |
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Jul 3 2012, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Dayang Kemboja @ Jul 3 2012, 02:55 PM) So it's best to not eat fried stuffs right? Definately! I have not eaten fried stuff like fried chicken for 3 months already! Ahahaha! But I will find it hard to get steamed or boiled food for every meal. Thanks for your advice anyway. I do go for a run three to four times a week. I am seeing some results already I do my cardio ( stationary bike ) 3 times per day Glad to see results! Keep it up! Added on July 3, 2012, 3:30 pm QUOTE(Sayid Kasturi @ Jul 3 2012, 03:26 PM) I tend to feel hungry at night around 11pm. When i face these kind of situations, i'll drink a cup of milk. If im still hungry, i'll prob have oat and milk, just a small cup. Wouldnt wanna feel full before i sleep. Or prob fruits, an apple or something And I can't fall asleep with a hungry stomach. So will tend to eat either junk food (biscuits) or instant noodles. It's very bad for my health.. Is there a solution to this?? Thanks everyone! Added on July 3, 2012, 3:32 pm QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 03:18 PM) been checking some of the internet sites, seems like chinese cooking is rather high in calories due to the oil. definately! Especially meals like hokkien mee, cause the chef throws in something called 'lards', i forgot what's the name of it. Pork fats, something like that. Well, if i'm eating in a hawker stall, i'll usually order chicken rice. I'll ask for less rice, more chicken and more vegetables means 'chap fan' or mixed rice for lunch is a no go what other substitutes then? bread? mi hun soup? This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 3 2012, 03:32 PM |
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Jul 3 2012, 04:01 PM
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Hi all,
Wanna ask is Ketogenic Diet good? I heard it is the most effective way to reduce weight for those who seldom do any exercise. I am a programmer with 80kg weight and 167cm height. I know I am obese and currently taking medicine to control my HB pressure and cholestrol level. I hardly do any exercise. Work all the time. Reaching home around 9PM everyday and also do some work on weekend. So I did some Google and found out Ketogenic Diet is the best way for people like me? Any idea? |
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Jul 3 2012, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(aliqueamyrei @ Jul 3 2012, 04:01 PM) Hi all, My answer would be no. Keto is not for someone who are not doing any exercise. Why? Before entering the ketosis state, you must depleted first your glycogen store both from muscle and liver. It is hard to do that without doing any exercises. And to fully utilize the fat burning effect, you have to do exercises to use the energy, if not, the effect would be too slow.Wanna ask is Ketogenic Diet good? I heard it is the most effective way to reduce weight for those who seldom do any exercise. I am a programmer with 80kg weight and 167cm height. I know I am obese and currently taking medicine to control my HB pressure and cholestrol level. I hardly do any exercise. Work all the time. Reaching home around 9PM everyday and also do some work on weekend. So I did some Google and found out Ketogenic Diet is the best way for people like me? Any idea? My take would be just do the low carb diet. Lower your carb intake, less rice, less bread take no rice at all. |
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Jul 3 2012, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 3 2012, 04:05 PM) My answer would be no. Keto is not for someone who are not doing any exercise. Why? Before entering the ketosis state, you must depleted first your glycogen store both from muscle and liver. It is hard to do that without doing any exercises. And to fully utilize the fat burning effect, you have to do exercises to use the energy, if not, the effect would be too slow. Like Atkins Diet? But Atkins still got carb intake. So my fat will depleted slower than Keto Diet since carb intake in Keto Diet is lower than Low-Carb diet. Right?My take would be just do the low carb diet. Lower your carb intake, less rice, less bread take no rice at all. |
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Jul 3 2012, 04:13 PM
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i would like to lose 5 kilos.
i've started doing sit-ups and light exercise daily at home. i also purchased this product called Kinohimitsu J'pan Kilos Cut . there're 30 sachets to be consumed on a daily basis. i've done some review on this Kinohimitsu thingy and yet to read any negative side effects regarding it. anyone has anything to share about Kinohimitsu products, and also any motivation tips to maintain my daily exercise? thanks |
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Jul 3 2012, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(aliqueamyrei @ Jul 3 2012, 04:10 PM) Like Atkins Diet? But Atkins still got carb intake. So my fat will depleted slower than Keto Diet since carb intake in Keto Diet is lower than Low-Carb diet. Right? The purpose of very low carb in Keto diet (less than 40g) is to change the 'fuel' usage for the body. Instead of using glucose that comes from carb, our body will use ketones that comes from fat. Basically, it is all about calorie in vs calorie out. The purpose of lowering carb so that you will have lower calorie in hence creating a calorie deficit. Keto diet is not so easy, you need to count precise calorie, hold out from not be able to eat most carb food such as rice, pasta, bread, roti canai etc. And you need to do it continuously without taking a break once; by break would mean eating carb. Once you consume carb that makes your carb intake more than 50g (more or less depends on the person), you will get out from the keto state and you need to restart the keto diet. To reenter the keto diet, you need about 2-4 days depending on the person. The protocol itself is quiet 'troublesome' and to follow it requires great discipline and I would rate it as a quite hard diet to follow. Why? Because I'm doing it currently, just start back yesterday. Even after a one day of intense exercise, I'm still not in the keto state. There are more easy diet such as atkins etc2. If you are in an unexpected dinner etc, you can skip your diet but keto? Once you are out, it takes days to get in the keto state. |
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Jul 3 2012, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 3 2012, 04:51 PM) The purpose of very low carb in Keto diet (less than 40g) is to change the 'fuel' usage for the body. Instead of using glucose that comes from carb, our body will use ketones that comes from fat. Thanks bro for explaination.Basically, it is all about calorie in vs calorie out. The purpose of lowering carb so that you will have lower calorie in hence creating a calorie deficit. Keto diet is not so easy, you need to count precise calorie, hold out from not be able to eat most carb food such as rice, pasta, bread, roti canai etc. And you need to do it continuously without taking a break once; by break would mean eating carb. Once you consume carb that makes your carb intake more than 50g (more or less depends on the person), you will get out from the keto state and you need to restart the keto diet. To reenter the keto diet, you need about 2-4 days depending on the person. The protocol itself is quiet 'troublesome' and to follow it requires great discipline and I would rate it as a quite hard diet to follow. Why? Because I'm doing it currently, just start back yesterday. Even after a one day of intense exercise, I'm still not in the keto state. There are more easy diet such as atkins etc2. If you are in an unexpected dinner etc, you can skip your diet but keto? Once you are out, it takes days to get in the keto state. |
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Jul 3 2012, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(min.lin @ Jul 3 2012, 04:13 PM) i would like to lose 5 kilos. sure it works, of course..but the problem is once you stopped using it, you'll be enjoying looking at your weight soar even higher. i've started doing sit-ups and light exercise daily at home. i also purchased this product called Kinohimitsu J'pan Kilos Cut . there're 30 sachets to be consumed on a daily basis. i've done some review on this Kinohimitsu thingy and yet to read any negative side effects regarding it. anyone has anything to share about Kinohimitsu products, and also any motivation tips to maintain my daily exercise? thanks just forgo those products and just do some cardio or weight training. Do heavy exercises like jogging, not light exercises if you're really serious about it. This post has been edited by TechnoG: Jul 3 2012, 06:23 PM |
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Jul 3 2012, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(min.lin @ Jul 3 2012, 04:13 PM) i would like to lose 5 kilos. The best (free) way to lose weight and keep weight off?i've started doing sit-ups and light exercise daily at home. i also purchased this product called Kinohimitsu J'pan Kilos Cut . there're 30 sachets to be consumed on a daily basis. i've done some review on this Kinohimitsu thingy and yet to read any negative side effects regarding it. anyone has anything to share about Kinohimitsu products, and also any motivation tips to maintain my daily exercise? thanks Learn about nutrition and learn how to read product labels. |
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Jul 3 2012, 06:55 PM
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I'm still stuck at work
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Jul 3 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 3 2012, 06:55 PM) Relax man. Been off from gym for a month, just started back again yesterday. Consider that your week off from gym as a resting week. Your body need to rest to you know, ridding all the accumulated fatigue. If you manage to go to the gym, you would feel like refresh and more energize. |
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Jul 3 2012, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(min.lin @ Jul 3 2012, 04:13 PM) i would like to lose 5 kilos. Ermm i dont know about you but i wont trust those kind of product. Whether isit harmful to your body or not. I will suggest you to focus on cardio, and if you wanna tone up, check out http://www.youtube.com/user/charliejames19...re=results_maini've started doing sit-ups and light exercise daily at home. i also purchased this product called Kinohimitsu J'pan Kilos Cut . there're 30 sachets to be consumed on a daily basis. i've done some review on this Kinohimitsu thingy and yet to read any negative side effects regarding it. anyone has anything to share about Kinohimitsu products, and also any motivation tips to maintain my daily exercise? thanks |
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Jul 3 2012, 10:49 PM
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Ok, my TDEE should be around 2517.
So conventional wisdom says that i should be eating around 2000 calories a day. But how much food exactly is this, in terms of rice, bread etc? Can someone share their experience? Much appreciated. |
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Jul 3 2012, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 3 2012, 10:49 PM) Ok, my TDEE should be around 2517. Good work there man. Now, you just need to know about your macro nutrition. If you are bulking, the usual ratio for carb/protein/fat would be 40/40/20. So, 40% of your calorie should comes from carb, 40% of your calorie should comes from protein and another 20% of your calorie should comes from fat. 1g of carb and protein is 4kcal, 1g of fat is 9kcal.So conventional wisdom says that i should be eating around 2000 calories a day. But how much food exactly is this, in terms of rice, bread etc? Can someone share their experience? Much appreciated. About nutritional info, you can always see http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ or http://cekodok.com/ for Malaysia food database. For example, let say that you need to consume 200g of protein. 100g of cooked chicken breast provide 31g of protein so you need to consume at least 640g of chicken breast. Of course it just an example. You can always mix your protein/carb/fat intake. 200g of chicken breast, 10 eggs, 2 serving of whey etc. |
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Jul 4 2012, 01:01 AM
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I did Atkins diet few years back (Atkins + 5 days a week workout in the gym). It lasts for 7 months. I lost 10 kgs. But friends said that I look tired and dry (skin). Now, I still go to gym buy I don't do Atkins. Trainer friend told me that low carbs diet makes us tired and dry. I do eat carbs nowadays but not much.
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Jul 4 2012, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 4 2012, 01:01 AM) I did Atkins diet few years back (Atkins + 5 days a week workout in the gym). It lasts for 7 months. I lost 10 kgs. But friends said that I look tired and dry (skin). Now, I still go to gym buy I don't do Atkins. Trainer friend told me that low carbs diet makes us tired and dry. I do eat carbs nowadays but not much. Well, if your workout in the gym is weightlifting, low carb is quite troublesome as you need the energy from carbs to do the workout. Maybe you are going too low? 10kg in 7 months is quite slow IMO. Do you calculate your calorie intake etc2? |
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Jul 4 2012, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 4 2012, 01:10 AM) Well, if your workout in the gym is weightlifting, low carb is quite troublesome as you need the energy from carbs to do the workout. Maybe you are going too low? 10kg in 7 months is quite slow IMO. Do you calculate your calorie intake etc2? My main target is to lose weight. I didn't do a lot of weight but 1 hour of cardio and 1 hour of weight (light ones for toning). I lost 10kgs in the 1st month. And plateu after losing -10 kgs and my weight increase. I gain back 3 kgs with total lost of -7kgs instead. I did the same regime. Never increase or decrease. Currently, My trainer gave me a lot of cardio exercises. He told me to increase and decrease my speed from time to time instead of fast pace throughout 20-30 min of jog. That is to prevent muscle burning instead of fat. And he told me to use dumbells or body weight for toning instead of machines. |
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Jul 4 2012, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 4 2012, 01:22 AM) My main target is to lose weight. I didn't do a lot of weight but 1 hour of cardio and 1 hour of weight (light ones for toning). I would say that your 10kg of weight loss is a total loss * Ba dum tssI lost 10kgs in the 1st month. And plateu after losing -10 kgs and my weight increase. I gain back 3 kgs with total lost of -7kgs instead. I did the same regime. Never increase or decrease. Currently, My trainer gave me a lot of cardio exercises. He told me to increase and decrease my speed from time to time instead of fast pace throughout 20-30 min of jog. That is to prevent muscle burning instead of fat. And he told me to use dumbells or body weight for toning instead of machines. This is my take on your weight loss result. You can only lose that much weight in a month when you lose your body water, your body fat and the invaluable muscle. Those muscle is the thing that dictates whether you will continue to lose your weight or just hit a plateau and gain back all the weight you've loss. I hope that you can read the importance of muscle on my link; BMR and fat loss explained. Another thing, your PT seems didn't grasp the best way to lose weight and dumbbell and bodyweight for toning instead of machine? That is just funny |
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Jul 4 2012, 09:44 AM
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thanks for the tips. will stick to my sit ups and exercise then
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Jul 4 2012, 10:12 AM
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A word of caution though, I've been doing sit ups, push ups and morning walks/walking the dog and eating 'less' for months. never had any real tangible effect.
About one and a half months ago, decided to finally use the gym in my clubhouse. I alternate between 30 minutes of cardio workout on the threadmill and a weight training regime everyday. At most i'll skip a day in between if my work schedule is too tight. I usually combine both (i.e. double up) on Saturdays and on Sundays I play badminton or basketball as well. I eat slightly less than the usual 'less' before. Unlike before, I have actually lost over 9 kilos of weight (as of this morning) which is nearly 10% of my fat arse body weight. Morale of the story would be if you are serious about losing weight, simple sit ups and exercises just doesn't work methinks. |
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Jul 4 2012, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 3 2012, 07:32 PM) Relax man. Been off from gym for a month, just started back again yesterday. Consider that your week off from gym as a resting week. Your body need to rest to you know, ridding all the accumulated fatigue. If you manage to go to the gym, you would feel like refresh and more energize. Yeah, booked Sat for morning to afternoon workout session. Gym trainer calling me hahaha, ffk too many times liao! thanks bro, i think i rested too much..hardwork last last week went down the drain. |
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Jul 4 2012, 10:44 AM
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Jul 4 2012, 10:52 AM
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Lower and side belly fats, so hard to get rid off
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Jul 4 2012, 11:05 AM
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I also missed gym. Lol
Toning up is what killing me |
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Jul 4 2012, 11:14 AM
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Jul 4 2012, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 4 2012, 10:12 AM) A word of caution though, I've been doing sit ups, push ups and morning walks/walking the dog and eating 'less' for months. never had any real tangible effect. Sometimes the exercises that we've done is not enough. We keep thinking that these 'exercises' can you lost your weight. For health purpose, maybe it is enough; better than be a potato couch but to lose weight, more intensity and volume is needed, and a well balance diet.About one and a half months ago, decided to finally use the gym in my clubhouse. I alternate between 30 minutes of cardio workout on the threadmill and a weight training regime everyday. At most i'll skip a day in between if my work schedule is too tight. I usually combine both (i.e. double up) on Saturdays and on Sundays I play badminton or basketball as well. I eat slightly less than the usual 'less' before. Unlike before, I have actually lost over 9 kilos of weight (as of this morning) which is nearly 10% of my fat arse body weight. Morale of the story would be if you are serious about losing weight, simple sit ups and exercises just doesn't work methinks. Props for the weight loss result QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 4 2012, 10:36 AM) Yeah, booked Sat for morning to afternoon workout session. Gym trainer calling me hahaha, ffk too many times liao! thanks bro, i think i rested too much..hardwork last last week went down the drain. Sometimes less is more. When you've been working out every day for every weeks, you body do get tired eventhough you do have alternate rest day. Some people take a week break every 8 weeks of heavy intense training, and they will come back stronger. In fact, one of the tip to break plateau is to take a week off. Kinda defeat the purpose if you want to get stronger right? QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 4 2012, 10:52 AM) That is the main primary fat storage for man. You need to have a low single digit body fat percentage to lose them. And some people, although they have less fat around the love handles, the obliques still didn't show up. Bad genetics. Haha |
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Jul 4 2012, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Dayang Salmah @ Jul 4 2012, 11:21 AM) Apaprently sit ups and stuff is to tone up your abs? In order to have visible abs, gotta do lost of cardio and fat burning workouts. Added on July 4, 2012, 11:35 am QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 4 2012, 11:28 AM) Sometimes the exercises that we've done is not enough. We keep thinking that these 'exercises' can you lost your weight. For health purpose, maybe it is enough; better than be a potato couch but to lose weight, more intensity and volume is needed, and a well balance diet. LOW + SINGLE digit body fat percentage? Haha, looks like i still have a long way to go Props for the weight loss result Sometimes less is more. When you've been working out every day for every weeks, you body do get tired eventhough you do have alternate rest day. Some people take a week break every 8 weeks of heavy intense training, and they will come back stronger. In fact, one of the tip to break plateau is to take a week off. Kinda defeat the purpose if you want to get stronger right? That is the main primary fat storage for man. You need to have a low single digit body fat percentage to lose them. And some people, although they have less fat around the love handles, the obliques still didn't show up. Bad genetics. Haha This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 4 2012, 11:35 AM |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 4 2012, 11:34 AM) Apaprently sit ups and stuff is to tone up your abs? In order to have visible abs, gotta do lost of cardio and fat burning workouts. I think it also helps to prevent your belly fats from "sagging" further. What kind of fats burning workouts would you recommend? Cos some workouts are for certain parts of our body (legs, arms). |
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QUOTE(Dayang Salmah @ Jul 4 2012, 11:40 AM) I think it also helps to prevent your belly fats from "sagging" further. I will recommend cardio or afterburn workouts ( mountain climbers, etc ) cause eventually we'll get bored of cardio What kind of fats burning workouts would you recommend? Cos some workouts are for certain parts of our body (legs, arms). |
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QUOTE(Dayang Salmah @ Jul 4 2012, 11:40 AM) I think it also helps to prevent your belly fats from "sagging" further. If you have a huge layer of fat in front of your belly, by doing more abs work, your abs muscle will grow thus pushing the layer of fat further hence you will see that you are more fatter than before. Trust me, I've been there What kind of fats burning workouts would you recommend? Cos some workouts are for certain parts of our body (legs, arms). |
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@gannicholas well i've set myself a target of 85kg at the end of the year... that's another 5 kilos to go. but am secretly hoping to drop back to at least my uni days weight of ~75kgs eventually.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 AM) @gannicholas well i've set myself a target of 85kg at the end of the year... that's another 5 kilos to go. but am secretly hoping to drop back to at least my uni days weight of ~75kgs eventually. Weight doesn't matter much but physical appearance does. You won't putting a sign telling other people how much is your weight just like Herba**** consumers do right? Hahaha.Loooooong way to go My current weight is at 92.6kg and I want to reach 80kg before September. That would be 13kg of fat (not muscle) in two months time. This post has been edited by alien9: Jul 4 2012, 11:56 AM |
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having people come and say that you look much slimmer is priceless. honest
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 AM) @gannicholas well i've set myself a target of 85kg at the end of the year... that's another 5 kilos to go. but am secretly hoping to drop back to at least my uni days weight of ~75kgs eventually. My weight hit 76.5 from 88.8kgs in 3 months, now currently 75.3 ( 4th month ). If i can do it, so can you! Wish you all the best! Loooooong way to go |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 4 2012, 11:56 AM) Weight doesn't matter much but physical appearance does. You won't putting a sign telling other people how much is your weight just like Herba**** consumers do right? Hahaha. weight matters.. putting strain on your joint when you do everything..My current weight is at 92.6kg and I want to reach 80kg before September. That would be 13kg of fat (not muscle) in two months time. Everyone say I looks lighter than I am, in fact i din loose much weight.. i want to be lighter!! |
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 4 2012, 12:07 PM) weight matters.. putting strain on your joint when you do everything.. Lol, whenever i tell people my weight, they'll all say 'Oh you have heavy bones, you're tall, etc etc"Everyone say I looks lighter than I am, in fact i din loose much weight.. i want to be lighter!! |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 AM) If you have a huge layer of fat in front of your belly, by doing more abs work, your abs muscle will grow thus pushing the layer of fat further hence you will see that you are more fatter than before. Trust me, I've been there Then do you have any suggestion to get rid of belly fats?I am currently having troubles on that. |
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Tried running 7km today cause i;ll be participating an upcoming run this Sunday Of course, i wont do long distance running all the time. I'm pretty sure one long cardio wont burn my muscles... well i hope so Added on July 5, 2012, 9:03 pm QUOTE(vksheilds @ Jul 5 2012, 06:52 PM) Losing weight is not few day task it’s like ongoing process and all tummy are not same so everyone need instructor for doing exercise without instructions your blindly exercise may demoralize you but one think is really true that everyone need exercise for loosing fat Instructor isnt necessarily required This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 5 2012, 09:03 PM |
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 4 2012, 10:12 AM) A word of caution though, I've been doing sit ups, push ups and morning walks/walking the dog and eating 'less' for months. never had any real tangible effect. That's because the calories expended during such light exercise is actually very minimal. If for example instead of weight training you began running marathons you would have seen similar progress in fat loss (although obviously less muscle gains). A lot of people overestimate their exercise and underestimate their calories consumed (especially in Msia thanks to teh tarik, nescafe, milo, etc) which is reflected in our growing obesity rate. Added on July 6, 2012, 12:36 am QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 5 2012, 09:02 PM) Tried running 7km today cause i;ll be participating an upcoming run this Sunday Don't be silly, of course it won't.Of course, i wont do long distance running all the time. I'm pretty sure one long cardio wont burn my muscles... well i hope so I just ran 21km at the last Stan Chart, and I did the full marathon at last years' Stan Chart. Didn't lose any muscle! Just eat something light before you run. Powerbar works good. This post has been edited by DJJD: Jul 6 2012, 12:36 AM |
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 6 2012, 12:35 AM) That's because the calories expended during such light exercise is actually very minimal. Ahaha, my calves are aching. I dont usually run. Anyways thanks for your advice! Btw, is my results normal?If for example instead of weight training you began running marathons you would have seen similar progress in fat loss (although obviously less muscle gains). A lot of people overestimate their exercise and underestimate their calories consumed (especially in Msia thanks to teh tarik, nescafe, milo, etc) which is reflected in our growing obesity rate. Added on July 6, 2012, 12:36 am Don't be silly, of course it won't. I just ran 21km at the last Stan Chart, and I did the full marathon at last years' Stan Chart. Didn't lose any muscle! Just eat something light before you run. Powerbar works good. This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 6 2012, 12:48 AM |
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QUOTE(Sutan Tuah @ Jul 5 2012, 03:20 PM) Anerobic exercises are the kind of exercise that you only can do for a short time (around 30 seconds before you need to stop). A very good example is weightlifting. You cannot do 25 reps of heavy squatting without stopping because you will be very tired and your body won't allow you to do that; that is why comes the 5X5 which is 5 sets of 5 reps. Every 5 reps is one set, and you rest between sets.Compared to aerobic exercises, it can be done for a long period such as slow pace jogging, marathon etc2. QUOTE(vksheilds @ Jul 5 2012, 06:52 PM) Losing weight is not few day task it’s like ongoing process and all tummy are not same so everyone need instructor for doing exercise without instructions your blindly exercise may demoralize you but one think is really true that everyone need exercise for loosing fat This is the key word there. I won't know what exercises that I need to do if I don't do my research. In this IT era, almost all people have access to internet. If they can't google what is the best exercises, how to do them, diet etc, then it's their fault.I didn't need any instructors at all. My gym PT cost me RM 18.00 per session where I can get all info on the Internet and it's free. This post has been edited by alien9: Jul 6 2012, 01:29 AM |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 6 2012, 01:28 AM) Anerobic exercises are the kind of exercise that you only can do for a short time (around 30 seconds before you need to stop). A very good example is weightlifting. You cannot do 25 reps of heavy squatting without stopping because you will be very tired and your body won't allow you to do that; that is why comes the 5X5 which is 5 sets of 5 reps. Every 5 reps is one set, and you rest between sets. RM18.00 per session is pretty cheap Compared to aerobic exercises, it can be done for a long period such as slow pace jogging, marathon etc2. This is the key word there. I won't know what exercises that I need to do if I don't do my research. In this IT era, almost all people have access to internet. If they can't google what is the best exercises, how to do them, diet etc, then it's their fault. I didn't need any instructors at all. My gym PT cost me RM 18.00 per session where I can get all info on the Internet and it's free. I mean, if you compare with the price of PT in Celeb Fitness. Lol. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 4 2012, 01:42 AM) I would say that your 10kg of weight loss is a total loss * Ba dum tss So what should I do? What kind of machine should I use and how?This is my take on your weight loss result. You can only lose that much weight in a month when you lose your body water, your body fat and the invaluable muscle. Those muscle is the thing that dictates whether you will continue to lose your weight or just hit a plateau and gain back all the weight you've loss. I hope that you can read the importance of muscle on my link; BMR and fat loss explained. [B]Another thing, your PT seems didn't grasp the best way to lose weight and dumbbell and bodyweight for toning instead of machine? That is just funny |
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 6 2012, 03:03 PM) At the moment, read the pinned thread in the bodybuilding section. There is a thread about diet, training for beginner. Read them thoroughly and twice, and pm me if you got any questions or you can just post it here |
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Body building? No, I don't want bulk muscles:( ... Btw, I'm a female, so weight loss and toning up is what I need
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@gannicholas, that threadmill is exactly the same as the ones in my taman's clubhouse!!!
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 6 2012, 03:18 PM) Body building? No, I don't want bulk muscles:( ... Btw, I'm a female, so weight loss and toning up is what I need I'm also a female, it's difficult for female to have bulk muscles, so no worriesIf want to have weight loss and toning up , can follow the guide. I did, and I lost more than 10 kgs and maintaining it till now, and now toning up a bit slow in progress as I'm kinda lazy |
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Jul 6 2012, 03:18 PM) Body building? No, I don't want bulk muscles:( ... Btw, I'm a female, so weight loss and toning up is what I need what DJJD said. BodyRock.TV will suit you the best Added on July 6, 2012, 8:23 pm QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 6 2012, 03:32 PM) haha, that's the treadmill in celeb fitness Added on July 6, 2012, 8:24 pmBtw guys, check her out Female bodybuilder. Her back *thumbs up* http://www.facebook.com/tigerlilian1 motivates me to train harder. Lol. This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 6 2012, 08:24 PM |
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@gannicholas wanna be superman ka?
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Hey peeps, need some advice
Lately I downloaded the apps for phone, myfitnesspal, it shows my daily calorie intake is 1.2k but I used the web page from google search, it shows about 1.8k, so which shall I follow? Any good suggestion and advice on the BMR? |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 6 2012, 08:33 PM) Hey peeps, need some advice yo..just follow ya weight... Lately I downloaded the apps for phone, myfitnesspal, it shows my daily calorie intake is 1.2k but I used the web page from google search, it shows about 1.8k, so which shall I follow? Any good suggestion and advice on the BMR? |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 08:36 PM) Basically some cardio workout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLK28BHJDd8 |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 10:36 PM) The usage of word cardio is absolutely wrong there.This post has been edited by alien9: Jul 6 2012, 10:51 PM |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 6 2012, 10:50 PM) Which means? Both also I used the same height and weight to measure hi sarah,Now I'm completely confused. I actually can't even reach the 1.2k calorie also, daily intake is like only 800-900 max what i meant is if u put some weight then try to reduce ya intake/foods.or do some xtra burn calories maybe like walk 5000 steps perday This post has been edited by Microsuck_360: Jul 6 2012, 11:03 PM |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 10:36 PM) Oh, watched this video before. This is more to body pump, etc This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 6 2012, 11:12 PM |
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 6 2012, 11:02 PM) hi sarah, I do understand that for my eating habit and amount, I'll suffer low metabolism rate, which will have more body fat. I've been trying to eat a lot already, but my tummy is having hard time to absorb all. Even one hard boil egg for me is already full what i meant is if u put some weight then try to reduce ya intake/foods.or do some xtra burn calories maybe like walk 5000 steps perday I'd wish to really have very very low body fat, and lean muscles only |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 6 2012, 10:50 PM) Body pump according to gannicholas? haha i duno whats the diff :sQUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 11:12 PM) Oh, watched this video before. This is more to body pump, etc I follow a bunch of friends for that night workout. epic fail, ended up going mcd. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 11:39 PM) 7 months & you're still alive?! haha me 5.5 months and counting. Btw do you guys use standard weighing scale or the ones with body fat/water measurement thinggy? Price diff for manual to digital to the body fat/water function is a huge gap, but worth the investment? |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 11:52 PM) 7 months & you're still alive?! haha me 5.5 months and counting. 7 months without instant noodles too. AHahaha! McD i'll order fillet-o-fish only, but i dont think i'll be ordering that anymore for my next visit Btw do you guys use standard weighing scale or the ones with body fat/water measurement thinggy? Price diff for manual to digital to the body fat/water function is a huge gap, but worth the investment? Meh, i just use those ordinary digital weighing scale. |
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QUOTE(futuredarthvader @ Jul 6 2012, 11:52 PM) 7 months & you're still alive?! haha me 5.5 months and counting. Buy the normal scale and a fat caliper to calculate body fat percentage. It's cheaper that way plus BEI machine (the digital scale with measurement thingy) gave not so accurate measurement.Btw do you guys use standard weighing scale or the ones with body fat/water measurement thinggy? Price diff for manual to digital to the body fat/water function is a huge gap, but worth the investment? |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 6 2012, 11:57 PM) Buy the normal scale and a fat caliper to calculate body fat percentage. It's cheaper that way plus BEI machine (the digital scale with measurement thingy) gave not so accurate measurement. I have a manual and digital scale at home, both says 75.5kgs but if i weigh myself at the gym, i weigh 78kgs... Which one should i follow? Gym weighing scales, they're the ones with the ermm, you know, the one where you can measure your height at the same time. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 7 2012, 12:00 AM) I have a manual and digital scale at home, both says 75.5kgs but if i weigh myself at the gym, i weigh 78kgs... Which one should i follow? Gym weighing scales, they're the ones with the ermm, you know, the one where you can measure your height at the same time. choose either one and stick to it. that way, you can eliminate possible variables that might affecting your weight gain/loss; if your weighing scale is a high quality one. low quality might have a defect and/or inaccurate reading. |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 6 2012, 11:17 PM) I do understand that for my eating habit and amount, I'll suffer low metabolism rate, which will have more body fat. I've been trying to eat a lot already, but my tummy is having hard time to absorb all. Even one hard boil egg for me is already full u already lost more than 10kg...so now more weight lose or maintain current weight or too much fat?... I'd wish to really have very very low body fat, and lean muscles only |
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 7 2012, 07:31 AM) u already lost more than 10kg...so now more weight lose or maintain current weight or too much fat?... Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM) Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check So hard to find girls like you nowadays. Most of my girlfriends, they're super super lazy and they dont really care cause they have high metabolism rate |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM) Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check oh i see...maybe try to use ya body more often like use stairs instead of lift (make sure its safe 1st lol.. lastly check ya workout routine ask PT if ya workout is correct or not... EDIT: since ya meta is low u got to push ya body harder..not bout put more weight but like i said do everything manually... This post has been edited by Microsuck_360: Jul 7 2012, 10:30 AM |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM) Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check You don't have to worry much, Just continue having a healthy diet, doing exercises and those toned body that you want will come. Low metabolism is a signed of low muscle mass (one of it). I guess that maybe you like a body something like this no? ![]() This is here bodyspace url: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BTacy2/ p.s: I'll love to get a girl with that kind of body |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 7 2012, 11:43 AM) You don't have to worry much, Just continue having a healthy diet, doing exercises and those toned body that you want will come. Low metabolism is a signed of low muscle mass (one of it). *drools*I guess that maybe you like a body something like this no? ![]() This is here bodyspace url: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BTacy2/ p.s: I'll love to get a girl with that kind of body But check out her current picture. Dont really like girls with vein-ish arms This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 7 2012, 11:46 AM |
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 09:55 AM) Want to lose another 3 more kgs and tone up. I've only manage to make a nice shape for abs but thighs and arms still ugly and flabby and no shape yet. Body fat at about 19% for my last check Another 'great' person that I think that you can learn from is Lindsay Cappotelli. ![]() This is here training log, maybe you can learn something or ask her directly. http://lindsaystraininglog.blogspot.com/ This post has been edited by alien9: Jul 7 2012, 12:00 PM |
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Jul 7 2012, 02:44 PM
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when one becomes lean with little body fat, the veins pop out naturally more for some people, less on some.
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Jul 7 2012, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 7 2012, 10:06 AM) So hard to find girls like you nowadays. Most of my girlfriends, they're super super lazy and they dont really care cause they have high metabolism rate Well, maybe because I'm still single gua, that's why have to jaga to see if can get any chance or not lo QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 7 2012, 10:27 AM) oh i see...maybe try to use ya body more often like use stairs instead of lift (make sure its safe 1st lol.. Yes, I've not use lift, not even escalator, always walk. Daily aerobic, anaerobic, and dancing (nowadays la)lastly check ya workout routine ask PT if ya workout is correct or not... EDIT: since ya meta is low u got to push ya body harder..not bout put more weight but like i said do everything manually... I consulted PT before, he does comment I am in good shape already, in fact body fat is lower than normal but I'm fussy a bit la. No doubt my arms are still flabby which need to tone up a bit and thighs too Already push hard on body, everything manual, only problem is eating QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 7 2012, 11:43 AM) You don't have to worry much, Just continue having a healthy diet, doing exercises and those toned body that you want will come. Low metabolism is a signed of low muscle mass (one of it). I'll hope to get even nicer abs than hers as currently mine kinda similar to hers, but arms not as firm like her, but wish to be smaller than hers I guess that maybe you like a body something like this no? ![]() This is here bodyspace url: http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BTacy2/ p.s: I'll love to get a girl with that kind of body QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 7 2012, 11:59 AM) @Sarah Angelina Thanks thanks Alien9Another 'great' person that I think that you can learn from is Lindsay Cappotelli. ![]() This is here training log, maybe you can learn something or ask her directly. http://lindsaystraininglog.blogspot.com/ |
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Jul 7 2012, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(mnkh27 @ Jul 7 2012, 02:44 PM) when one becomes lean with little body fat, the veins pop out naturally more for some people, less on some. hmm..my biceps have visible veins, but you can't really feel the bump on my skin. Now just waiting to see those veins that stretch from my fingers right up to my arm..if it's possible. hais, not sure whether I should bulk up or cut now. 83kg, 188cm..feel like bulking up, but I still have fats around my tummy area. |
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 7 2012, 05:58 PM) hmm..my biceps have visible veins, but you can't really feel the bump on my skin. Now just waiting to see those veins that stretch from my fingers right up to my arm..if it's possible. My suggestion is to bulk a little, to increase your muscle mass (of course) and your BMR will increase to. It will help you in cutting. Or you can always bulk and then do your cutting phase. 83kg for 188cm is not fat.hais, not sure whether I should bulk up or cut now. 83kg, 188cm..feel like bulking up, but I still have fats around my tummy area. |
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Jul 7 2012, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 05:40 PM) Well, maybe because I'm still single gua, that's why have to jaga to see if can get any chance or not lo u worried 2 much the end... Yes, I've not use lift, not even escalator, always walk. Daily aerobic, anaerobic, and dancing (nowadays la) I consulted PT before, he does comment I am in good shape already, in fact body fat is lower than normal but I'm fussy a bit la. No doubt my arms are still flabby which need to tone up a bit and thighs too Already push hard on body, everything manual, only problem is eating I'll hope to get even nicer abs than hers as currently mine kinda similar to hers, but arms not as firm like her, but wish to be smaller than hers Thanks thanks Alien9 |
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Jul 7 2012, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 7 2012, 05:58 PM) hmm..my biceps have visible veins, but you can't really feel the bump on my skin. Now just waiting to see those veins that stretch from my fingers right up to my arm..if it's possible. hahaha we r in the same situation... eyes telling me to cut where mind telling me to bulk.. funny thing...hais, not sure whether I should bulk up or cut now. 83kg, 188cm..feel like bulking up, but I still have fats around my tummy area. |
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Jul 7 2012, 09:54 PM
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I am trying to lose weight and gain some muscle, to which I have started my workouts for the past 2 weeks. In summary, it's something like this:
Monday : Weights (chest & triceps) Tuesday : Cardio Wednesday : Weights (back & biceps) Thursday : Cardio Friday : Weights (legs & shoulders) Saturday and Sunday are rest days. I workout at home with dumbbells and a barbell. So far my workouts really tire me out, especially since I workout after work. However, ever since I started working out, I have had trouble sleeping. For the past 2 weeks, I always wake up at around 2-3am (I usually sleep around 10.30pm) and continue on with a fitful sleep till my alarm goes off at 5am. Has anyone faced something like this? |
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Jul 7 2012, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 7 2012, 08:41 PM) Perhaps, but who wouldn't want to be in best shape? QUOTE(fullmetalneko @ Jul 7 2012, 09:54 PM) I am trying to lose weight and gain some muscle, to which I have started my workouts for the past 2 weeks. In summary, it's something like this: I never experience problem in sleeping ever since started workout, in fact I'm craving for more sleep Monday : Weights (chest & triceps) Tuesday : Cardio Wednesday : Weights (back & biceps) Thursday : Cardio Friday : Weights (legs & shoulders) Saturday and Sunday are rest days. I workout at home with dumbbells and a barbell. So far my workouts really tire me out, especially since I workout after work. However, ever since I started working out, I have had trouble sleeping. For the past 2 weeks, I always wake up at around 2-3am (I usually sleep around 10.30pm) and continue on with a fitful sleep till my alarm goes off at 5am. Has anyone faced something like this? |
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Jul 7 2012, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 7 2012, 10:02 PM) Perhaps, but who wouldn't want to be in best shape? some body part do take a while do lose weight/part or double check/change some of ya routine especially ya arms exercise...give a try for a week or more.. I never experience problem in sleeping ever since started workout, in fact I'm craving for more sleep Added on July 7, 2012, 10:51 pm QUOTE(fullmetalneko @ Jul 7 2012, 09:54 PM) I am trying to lose weight and gain some muscle, to which I have started my workouts for the past 2 weeks. In summary, it's something like this: ya routine almost like mine xcept i like chest with biceps..and back with triceps...not sure bout ya sleeping problem.. Monday : Weights (chest & triceps) Tuesday : Cardio Wednesday : Weights (back & biceps) Thursday : Cardio Friday : Weights (legs & shoulders) Saturday and Sunday are rest days. I workout at home with dumbbells and a barbell. So far my workouts really tire me out, especially since I workout after work. However, ever since I started working out, I have had trouble sleeping. For the past 2 weeks, I always wake up at around 2-3am (I usually sleep around 10.30pm) and continue on with a fitful sleep till my alarm goes off at 5am. Has anyone faced something like this? This post has been edited by Microsuck_360: Jul 7 2012, 10:51 PM |
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Jul 8 2012, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(fullmetalneko @ Jul 7 2012, 09:54 PM) I am trying to lose weight and gain some muscle, to which I have started my workouts for the past 2 weeks. In summary, it's something like this: I've not faced these kind of situations. I tend to sleep harder, cause i workout late evening. Ahahaha! I dont know about you but here's my workout routine, and so far results has been good Monday : Weights (chest & triceps) Tuesday : Cardio Wednesday : Weights (back & biceps) Thursday : Cardio Friday : Weights (legs & shoulders) Saturday and Sunday are rest days. I workout at home with dumbbells and a barbell. So far my workouts really tire me out, especially since I workout after work. However, ever since I started working out, I have had trouble sleeping. For the past 2 weeks, I always wake up at around 2-3am (I usually sleep around 10.30pm) and continue on with a fitful sleep till my alarm goes off at 5am. Has anyone faced something like this? Monday :- Heavy Lifts ( Deadlifts, Squats ) , Lower Back, Legs and cardio Tuesday :- Back, Biceps, Abs and cardio Wednesday :- Chest, Shoulders and Triceps Thurs :- Back to Heavy Lifts ( Deadlifts, Squats ) , Lower Back, Legs Friday :- Back, Biceps, Abs and cardio Either Saturday or Sunday :-Chest, Shoulders and Triceps and the same routine goes on Why cardio unconsistent? Cause i attend their cycling classes. Planning to stop soon and focus on bodybuilding |
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Jul 9 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jul 7 2012, 10:46 PM) some body part do take a while do lose weight/part or double check/change some of ya routine especially ya arms exercise...give a try for a week or more.. Hmm, Yeah, now somewhat change the whole routine. morning cardio and abs exercise and evening cardio and whole body HIIT session.Added on July 7, 2012, 10:51 pm ya routine almost like mine xcept i like chest with biceps..and back with triceps...not sure bout ya sleeping problem.. hopefully will see some changes later |
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Jul 9 2012, 01:19 PM
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Yes, down another 1.5kg in two weeks time. I weight 2 weeks once. Another 3.5kg to my ideal weight!
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Jul 9 2012, 02:38 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 02:40 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 02:40 PM) Ahaha! I forgot actually. But its pretty out of balance. Normal carbs for asian people, less protein but yeah.. Went for a 7km run yesterday morning though, was too tired. Ahahaha!I go to Celeb Fitness WMM, will be heading to Celeb Fitness either Sunway or Subang Parade in two weeks time You? |
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Jul 9 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 02:47 PM) Ahaha! I forgot actually. But its pretty out of balance. Normal carbs for asian people, less protein but yeah.. Went for a 7km run yesterday morning though, was too tired. Ahahaha! True fitness I go to Celeb Fitness WMM, will be heading to Celeb Fitness either Sunway or Subang Parade in two weeks time You? Lol, was about to get the celeb fitness subang parade though, but doubt they open as early as true fitness thus decided to skip it. Yesterday morning the feel good run? Once a while should be ok ma, I normally have cheat meals during weekend |
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Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 02:56 PM) True fitness celeb fitness opens at 630 if im not mistaken. Ahaha!Lol, was about to get the celeb fitness subang parade though, but doubt they open as early as true fitness thus decided to skip it. Yesterday morning the feel good run? Once a while should be ok ma, I normally have cheat meals during weekend Nope, McDonalds Olympic Day Run Injured my toes, nail should be coming off in a week. Ahahaha! Going to the gym in a bit with slippers I have cheat meals every weekend |
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Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM) celeb fitness opens at 630 if im not mistaken. Ahaha! So, the earliest one is still True Fitness unless I open up a ghetto gym in subang area, then can gym whatever time I want Nope, McDonalds Olympic Day Run Injured my toes, nail should be coming off in a week. Ahahaha! Going to the gym in a bit with slippers I have cheat meals every weekend Oh, I thought the feel good run. Hmm, was it very suffering or how? How long to complete the 7km? I'm thinking if should take up for any run like that. My cheat meals didn't help me to reach my target calories intake |
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Jul 9 2012, 03:22 PM
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Wanna ask , Shaklee cinch plan any good ?
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Jul 9 2012, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 03:21 PM) So, the earliest one is still True Fitness unless I open up a ghetto gym in subang area, then can gym whatever time I want What time does True Fitness opens? Why do you have to go to the gym that early? Ahaha!Oh, I thought the feel good run. Hmm, was it very suffering or how? How long to complete the 7km? I'm thinking if should take up for any run like that. My cheat meals didn't help me to reach my target calories intake It was okay la, not so bad. I took 47 minutes My friends are bailing on me already for all these kind of activities cause they're too lazy |
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Jul 9 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 03:26 PM) What time does True Fitness opens? Why do you have to go to the gym that early? Ahaha! Because I'll have to rush to office at 7am, so start sharp at 6, then leave by 7 then ok lo. And by time I off work, back home cook dinner, already 8plus, so I'll be doing at home instead of going out again (lazy It was okay la, not so bad. I took 47 minutes My friends are bailing on me already for all these kind of activities cause they're too lazy 47minutes for 7km???? Whoa, how fast you run la? Hmm, ok, if there's any that short distance and ok one then let me know, if my schedule is ok then let's go! Btw, I heard there's a park in Shah alam can do cycling? What park is that? XD |
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Jul 9 2012, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 03:33 PM) Because I'll have to rush to office at 7am, so start sharp at 6, then leave by 7 then ok lo. And by time I off work, back home cook dinner, already 8plus, so I'll be doing at home instead of going out again (lazy Ahaha, i'm planning to go for longer distance onces, like 10km or 12km 47minutes for 7km???? Whoa, how fast you run la? Hmm, ok, if there's any that short distance and ok one then let me know, if my schedule is ok then let's go! Btw, I heard there's a park in Shah alam can do cycling? What park is that? XD Never heard of it, but it sounds good! Far away from where i'm currently staying though |
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Jul 9 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 03:36 PM) Ahaha, i'm planning to go for longer distance onces, like 10km or 12km I 5km also haven't run before, so fast ask me go 10km or 12km meh Never heard of it, but it sounds good! Far away from where i'm currently staying though Can die one wor, haha Heard it's name Bukit Cahaya, but not sure if it's safe or not, intend to have a place for cycling on and off Because I heard that Rock climbing is expensive right? Lately very energetic to go for some tiring activities, be it outdoor or indoor lol |
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Jul 9 2012, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 02:38 PM) Nice, what's your ideal weight? My weight has been increasing, skipped gym two days in a row already, feeling shitty 68kgs for 170cm. After getting this ideal weight, will either do maintaince or perharps get it down to 65kgs. Need to see what's my BF on that time first. For me i jog very slow nia. 8Km for 1 hour 10 minutes Same like gannicholas, i always have my cheat day on weekend where i eat all i want. But still maintain calories per week. Eat less on weekdays and blast it on weekend. I wonder if this can consider calories cycling? This post has been edited by adriankhoo153: Jul 9 2012, 05:21 PM |
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Jul 9 2012, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 04:08 PM) I 5km also haven't run before, so fast ask me go 10km or 12km meh Bukit Cahaya is a nice place for cycling. Uhill and downhill with a nice forestly scene. Very fun and tiring but the bad thing is their biycle seat very keras. My butt cant seat for more than 10 minutes. Painful leh.Can die one wor, haha Heard it's name Bukit Cahaya, but not sure if it's safe or not, intend to have a place for cycling on and off Because I heard that Rock climbing is expensive right? Lately very energetic to go for some tiring activities, be it outdoor or indoor lol This post has been edited by adriankhoo153: Jul 9 2012, 05:28 PM |
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Jul 9 2012, 05:31 PM
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slimming program in 3 month time, interested please click on my signature, or send me a PM, thank you!
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Jul 9 2012, 07:54 PM
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my food intake is always bothering me, I'm not very confident whether it suits my current lifestyle which is cutting. I'm 188cm, 84kg and I go to the gym everyday except for Sundays which I would do a 3km run instead.
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Jul 9 2012, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 9 2012, 07:54 PM) my food intake is always bothering me, I'm not very confident whether it suits my current lifestyle which is cutting. I'm 188cm, 84kg and I go to the gym everyday except for Sundays which I would do a 3km run instead. For Monday, how much calorie do you consume?Mon-Fri » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Sat » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « do you think it's okay for cutting? |
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Jul 9 2012, 08:07 PM
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Jul 9 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 9 2012, 08:07 PM) the last time I calculated it was around 1200kcal-1300kcal. Wow, that is extremely low. Are you trying to be anorexia? I am 168cm with 91kg and the lowest I go is 2000kcal. That is just borderline low calorie for me. Any lower than that, my muscle will start to breakdown a lot and my BMR will start to plummet. |
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Jul 9 2012, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Jul 9 2012, 05:27 PM) Bukit Cahaya is a nice place for cycling. Uhill and downhill with a nice forestly scene. Very fun and tiring but the bad thing is their biycle seat very keras. My butt cant seat for more than 10 minutes. Painful leh. Hmm... intend to get extra place for workout, cycling is a good workout right? Well, like that then don't sit on it and just cycle like those professionals with their body leaning forward lo I'm only worried if cycle half way then got ppl come out rob |
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Jul 9 2012, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 9 2012, 08:29 PM) Hmm... intend to get extra place for workout, cycling is a good workout right? That is the main problem nowadays Well, like that then don't sit on it and just cycle like those professionals with their body leaning forward lo I'm only worried if cycle half way then got ppl come out rob |
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Jul 9 2012, 09:33 PM
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who stay in Shah Alam. got tasik and Gym. a lot of place to workout
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Jul 10 2012, 01:37 AM
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Hi, Im here to seek advice from sifus
18yo, 95kg, 170cm. *Dreaming to wear those M and L size cloth I bought before next CNY Breakfast, 730am: Mostly a cup of Teh C + Kolo Mee / Fried Kuehtiaw Lunch, 1200pm: Rice, 1meat 2vege / 2meat 2 vege Dinner, 600pm: (same thing as lunch) No supper. I want to lose fats and get my body into better shape. Currently doing some workout and cardio 4days a week. How can I improve my lifestyle? What kind of workout and cardio I should do when I'm at the gym? Is 4days a week enough? With my body condition, is protein shake recommended? Thanks alot! |
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Jul 10 2012, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(denieru @ Jul 10 2012, 01:37 AM) Hi, Im here to seek advice from sifus Calculate your calorie maintenance first. How? Find your BMR. Then we can talk more. You want to be in good shape before CNY? You have to follow the correct path.18yo, 95kg, 170cm. *Dreaming to wear those M and L size cloth I bought before next CNY Breakfast, 730am: Mostly a cup of Teh C + Kolo Mee / Fried Kuehtiaw Lunch, 1200pm: Rice, 1meat 2vege / 2meat 2 vege Dinner, 600pm: (same thing as lunch) No supper. I want to lose fats and get my body into better shape. Currently doing some workout and cardio 4days a week. How can I improve my lifestyle? What kind of workout and cardio I should do when I'm at the gym? Is 4days a week enough? With my body condition, is protein shake recommended? Thanks alot! BTW, 90kg at 170cm can let you wear L shirt already |
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Jul 10 2012, 08:44 AM
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Let say my TDEE is 2600cal and i am doing cutting. Hence -20% will be about 2000cal a day. If i eat 2300cal a day and my workout is -500cal, i get net 1800cal a day.
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Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM
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88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months.
now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs. Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out. Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday |
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Jul 10 2012, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM) 88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months. Keep it going! now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs. Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out. Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday |
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Jul 10 2012, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM) 88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months. now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs. Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out. Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday |
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Jul 10 2012, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM) 88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months. congrats! now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs. Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out. Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday |
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Jul 10 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 9 2012, 08:32 PM) That's tree reason why I sign gym too QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM) 88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months. Salute! Respect!now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs. Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out. Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday |
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QUOTE(denieru @ Jul 10 2012, 01:37 AM) Hi, Im here to seek advice from sifus maybe you can try 18yo, 95kg, 170cm. *Dreaming to wear those M and L size cloth I bought before next CNY Breakfast, 730am: Mostly a cup of Teh C + Kolo Mee / Fried Kuehtiaw Lunch, 1200pm: Rice, 1meat 2vege / 2meat 2 vege Dinner, 600pm: (same thing as lunch) No supper. I want to lose fats and get my body into better shape. Currently doing some workout and cardio 4days a week. How can I improve my lifestyle? What kind of workout and cardio I should do when I'm at the gym? Is 4days a week enough? With my body condition, is protein shake recommended? Thanks alot! breakfast : big portion of vege + medium portion of protein(lean meat or egg) + little bit of carb(rice,mee,bihun) lunch: same with breakfast dinner: meat and vege and fruit, try to cut less on carb during dinner 2 hour after each meal eat a portion of fruit dun eat too oily food and continue your workout then think can achive your target, if want best result may PM me for detail. i have no time to workout but still manage to loss 9 kg last month without starving and enjoy the food. hope this help! |
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tq tq for the kind words of encouragement!
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QUOTE(denieru @ Jul 10 2012, 01:37 AM) Hi, Im here to seek advice from sifus This is definitely 100% possible. I'm 18yo, 175cm. I went from XL/L to M in 3/4 months 18yo, 95kg, 170cm. *Dreaming to wear those M and L size cloth I bought before next CNY Breakfast, 730am: Mostly a cup of Teh C + Kolo Mee / Fried Kuehtiaw Lunch, 1200pm: Rice, 1meat 2vege / 2meat 2 vege Dinner, 600pm: (same thing as lunch) No supper. I want to lose fats and get my body into better shape. Currently doing some workout and cardio 4days a week. How can I improve my lifestyle? What kind of workout and cardio I should do when I'm at the gym? Is 4days a week enough? With my body condition, is protein shake recommended? Thanks alot! Best advice i can give you for rapid weight loss is to cut on carbs, salt, oil and sugar Replace your breakfast with something high in fibre, prob something simple such as a cup of oats with milk. Whereas for lunch, i totally reduce on carbs. If you cant survive without consuming carbs, replace rice with brown rice. Replace white bread with wholemeal bread. Same goes to dinner but reduce your dinner portion. Consume more vegetables and fruits. Vitamins, Fibre, bla bla. My routine is :- Mondays :- Legs ( Calves, Hamstrings, Quads ) and cardio ( cycling, approx 580 calories burned average per class ) Tuesdays :- Biceps, Back, Abs. One muscle group, 4 different kind of exercises and cardio ( cycling, approx 580 calories burned average per class ) Wednesdays :- Triceps, Chest, Shoulders. One muscle group, 4 different kind of exercises Thursdays :- Legs again. One muscle group, 4 different kind of exercise Fridays :- Back to Biceps, Back and Abs. Same thing, one muscle group, 4 different kind of exercises and cardio ( cycling, approx 580 calories burned average per class ) EITHER Saturday or Sunday :- Triceps, Chest, Shoulders. One muscle group, 4 different kind of exercises The reason why my cardio isnt consistent is because i attend cycling classes in the gym I wouldnt recommend you protein shake. I would recommend you to get used to the basics first, get your workout correct and make sure you really wana lose weight. Some people like my friends, first week of working out they buy protein tubs already, next week they got lazier and lazier, in the end they wasted cash on their protein shake. Remember, just by drinking protein shakes doesnt help you build muscles Wish you all the best! Losing weight is fun, trust me. |
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QUOTE(ykl @ Jul 10 2012, 10:41 AM) maybe you can try Can you pm me how you make it?breakfast : big portion of vege + medium portion of protein(lean meat or egg) + little bit of carb(rice,mee,bihun) lunch: same with breakfast dinner: meat and vege and fruit, try to cut less on carb during dinner 2 hour after each meal eat a portion of fruit dun eat too oily food and continue your workout then think can achive your target, if want best result may PM me for detail. i have no time to workout but still manage to loss 9 kg last month without starving and enjoy the food. hope this help! |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 9 2012, 08:16 PM) Wow, that is extremely low. Are you trying to be anorexia? I am 168cm with 91kg and the lowest I go is 2000kcal. That is just borderline low calorie for me. Any lower than that, my muscle will start to breakdown a lot and my BMR will start to plummet. I'm trying to loose fats and weights faster, so I figured out lowering my calorie intake more will prolly help. Aaaahhhh..sometimes it's pretty frustrating to see the belly there after 2 months. less calories will lead to muscle breakdown? Interesting. |
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Jul 10 2012, 04:57 PM) I'm trying to loose fats and weights faster, so I figured out lowering my calorie intake more will prolly help. Yup. You can always google for it. The lowest that you can go is 80% from your calorie maintenance @TDEE. Any lower than that would be unhealthy and your muscles will start to breakdown more (whenever you are in calorie deficit, your muscle will start to breakdown). Aaaahhhh..sometimes it's pretty frustrating to see the belly there after 2 months. less calories will lead to muscle breakdown? Interesting. That is what most meal replacement products go for. A very low calorie diet where they can say that you can lose like 10kg per month. The weight reduction is not fat only but muscles + fat + water weight. Ever seen a meal product replacement that have a muscular body? There is some but it is very unlikely that they use it to get their body. |
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Are fat burners good or bad? If bad, what are the side effects? Thanks ( I'm not taking fat burners, i'm just doing some research on it for fun, dont get me wrong. Lol. ) |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 10 2012, 08:30 PM) Random topic Speaking from a fat burner consumer. I've tried OxyElite Pro once when I want to start my weight loss routine.Are fat burners good or bad? If bad, what are the side effects? Thanks ( I'm not taking fat burners, i'm just doing some research on it for fun, dont get me wrong. Lol. ) Basically it depends, some say it is not natural thus it is not healthy. Some say it helps, so it is a good thing. What I got from OxyElite Pro is that (usually most of the fat burners have this): 1. Appetite Suppressant - The problem with overweight people is that they cannot curb their appetite. Some of them have a great willpower to control their appetite but mostly don't. So, having an appetite suppressant is a good thing where it can limit your food intake thus the possibility of calorie in will be much lower that calorie out. 2. Energy Booster - When we are in calorie deficit, we don't have that much of energy thus energy booster really help to do what we used to do everyday. It is downright demotivating when you are tired all the day because of the insufficient energy due to consuming less food. Feels like eating is a very good option at that time right. BUT If you have ample knowledge about losing weight, then you don't need one. I just need a bottle and after that it is all natural for me. Side Effect: It is totally depend on the person. 1. Caffeine (Stimulant) - Some people don't react well with caffeine so there is a stimulant free fat burners. 2. Excessive sweating - Some products such as Polythermax have this side effect. I actually thought that OxyElite Pro is not working because I don't sweat. 3. Increase Heartrate - Usually caused by 1,3 - Dimethylamylamine. People with hypertension should not consume this products. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 10 2012, 08:43 PM) Speaking from a fat burner consumer. I've tried OxyElite Pro once when I want to start my weight loss routine. Are you studying sports science? Your answers are always in detail & amazing Basically it depends, some say it is not natural thus it is not healthy. Some say it helps, so it is a good thing. What I got from OxyElite Pro is that (usually most of the fat burners have this): 1. Appetite Suppressant - The problem with overweight people is that they cannot curb their appetite. Some of them have a great willpower to control their appetite but mostly don't. So, having an appetite suppressant is a good thing where it can limit your food intake thus the possibility of calorie in will be much lower that calorie out. 2. Energy Booster - When we are in calorie deficit, we don't have that much of energy thus energy booster really help to do what we used to do everyday. It is downright demotivating when you are tired all the day because of the insufficient energy due to consuming less food. Feels like eating is a very good option at that time right. BUT If you have ample knowledge about losing weight, then you don't need one. I just need a bottle and after that it is all natural for me. Side Effect: It is totally depend on the person. 1. Caffeine (Stimulant) - Some people don't react well with caffeine so there is a stimulant free fat burners. 2. Excessive sweating - Some products such as Polythermax have this side effect. I actually thought that OxyElite Pro is not working because I don't sweat. 3. Increase Heartrate - Usually caused by 1,3 - Dimethylamylamine. People with hypertension should not consume this products. Some say fat burners causes various kind of damages to the heart? |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 10 2012, 09:13 PM) Are you studying sports science? Your answers are always in detail & amazing No man. My degree is far from any science stream but I take that as complement. Not saying that my answers are correct but I like to read Some say fat burners causes various kind of damages to the heart? Recent cases of a few months backs where lots of fat burners and pre-wo that contain 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, have being banned from being produced because the ingredient suspected to cause heart attack. Other than that, I don't think that there is a major sides effect of fat burners. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 10 2012, 10:02 PM) No man. My degree is far from any science stream but I take that as complement. Not saying that my answers are correct but I like to read Heart attack, woah Recent cases of a few months backs where lots of fat burners and pre-wo that contain 1,3-Dimethylamylamine, have being banned from being produced because the ingredient suspected to cause heart attack. Other than that, I don't think that there is a major sides effect of fat burners. Well, conclusion its best to avoid i guess Added on July 10, 2012, 11:33 pm QUOTE(felixfatass @ Jul 10 2012, 11:23 PM) you are right, those direct sales product again! huhuh haha toldcya so, what product? that's why i think exercise will be the most effective way! This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 10 2012, 11:33 PM |
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need advice on my situation
after 3 semester i went from 105 to 72 but after checking out this thread i realised that i mostly lost muscle tissue instead of fat i think so because all i did was control my eating (eat less but not deprived of food) and some stair climbing nothing extreme plus in sem 2 i did some strength workout and too lazy to continue in sem 3 this is when i drop another 10 and i noticed that my arm no longer has the same shape, now just flab please advice would be much appreciated |
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Thanks for all the replies! So basically what I have to do is cut on my carbs. Ahh I still remember what PLKN feed us with, fish and fruits will surely be on the menu every day. Lost 8kg there but gain back 3 here. lol! Will keep you guys updated with my progress! Hope my schedule won't be affected by the coming semester.
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Jul 11 2012, 02:11 AM) need advice on my situation Well, don't waste anymore time. Start bulking and regain back all your lost muscle. Find a gym; hopefully your uni have a gym then find a good routine. Find and follow a good bulking diet then as usual have a good rest.after 3 semester i went from 105 to 72 but after checking out this thread i realised that i mostly lost muscle tissue instead of fat i think so because all i did was control my eating (eat less but not deprived of food) and some stair climbing nothing extreme plus in sem 2 i did some strength workout and too lazy to continue in sem 3 this is when i drop another 10 and i noticed that my arm no longer has the same shape, now just flab please advice would be much appreciated |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 11 2012, 07:19 AM) Well, don't waste anymore time. Start bulking and regain back all your lost muscle. Find a gym; hopefully your uni have a gym then find a good routine. Find and follow a good bulking diet then as usual have a good rest. sadly the semester has ended.gonna have to start strength exercise again |
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Jul 11 2012, 02:11 AM) need advice on my situation Hit the gym, focus on weights after 3 semester i went from 105 to 72 but after checking out this thread i realised that i mostly lost muscle tissue instead of fat i think so because all i did was control my eating (eat less but not deprived of food) and some stair climbing nothing extreme plus in sem 2 i did some strength workout and too lazy to continue in sem 3 this is when i drop another 10 and i noticed that my arm no longer has the same shape, now just flab please advice would be much appreciated Feel free to ask for more information regarding on weights Added on July 11, 2012, 10:27 am QUOTE(denieru @ Jul 11 2012, 02:15 AM) Thanks for all the replies! So basically what I have to do is cut on my carbs. Ahh I still remember what PLKN feed us with, fish and fruits will surely be on the menu every day. Lost 8kg there but gain back 3 here. lol! Will keep you guys updated with my progress! Hope my schedule won't be affected by the coming semester. Cut on carbs, oil, sugar and salt Good luck! This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 11 2012, 10:27 AM |
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QUOTE(felixfatass @ Jul 10 2012, 11:23 PM) you are right, those direct sales product again! huhuh Yeah. Losing more than half a kg a week at the moment exercising and working out in the gym and cutting down my fatty food and rice intake. that's why i think exercise will be the most effective way! No diet pills, no proteins supplements at all. Results are showing too - less flabby arms, slight muscles and best of all, tummy is shrinking! I can see mah toes! Although I do suspect that the loss rate will drop a bit once I get over the great beginners' period. This post has been edited by madmoz: Jul 11 2012, 11:03 AM |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 10 2012, 08:27 PM) Yup. You can always google for it. The lowest that you can go is 80% from your calorie maintenance @TDEE. Any lower than that would be unhealthy and your muscles will start to breakdown more (whenever you are in calorie deficit, your muscle will start to breakdown). Totally agree, because that's what I'm facing That is what most meal replacement products go for. A very low calorie diet where they can say that you can lose like 10kg per month. The weight reduction is not fat only but muscles + fat + water weight. Ever seen a meal product replacement that have a muscular body? There is some but it is very unlikely that they use it to get their body. I can lose weight but my arms are still flabby now trying to bump my calories intake via ice cream and what not |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 11 2012, 01:13 PM) Hmm, almonds |
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Dont know whether this question should be in this thread
Oh well. Being paranoid over here, this MIGHT be a stupid question I workout 6 days per week. I'll be donating blood tomorrow morning, will it effect my performance? This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 11 2012, 08:29 PM |
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I was 97kg back in January and now 83kg with 183cm height.
The thing is I have been consistently eating below maintenance calories (except for the odd cheat days) and my weight has been plateauing for weeks now.... Anything I can do to jumpstart the weight loss? It seems that my body is clinging to the excess fat that I have... |
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verticalforce you do any workout ? maybe you can add some workout or increase the intensity and duration of the workout. do strength training
Also can list down your food intake for day so forumer here can help |
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Jul 12 2012, 04:25 AM) I was 97kg back in January and now 83kg with 183cm height. Reassess your maintenance calories. Either eat less, or incorporate exercise.The thing is I have been consistently eating below maintenance calories (except for the odd cheat days) and my weight has been plateauing for weeks now.... Anything I can do to jumpstart the weight loss? It seems that my body is clinging to the excess fat that I have... |
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Jul 12 2012, 04:25 AM) I was 97kg back in January and now 83kg with 183cm height. When you lose your weight, your BMR will also be effected by it. Just like DT1 said, reassess your calorie maintenanceThe thing is I have been consistently eating below maintenance calories (except for the odd cheat days) and my weight has been plateauing for weeks now.... Anything I can do to jumpstart the weight loss? It seems that my body is clinging to the excess fat that I have... |
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I'm planning to change my schedule
My current meal is ( on weekdays ) :- Breakfast :- EITHER One cup of Raw Rolled Oats and Low Fat Milk OR 3 Eggs fried with olive oil and a cup of low fat milk Lunch :- One whole chicken leg, vegetables ( either one brocolli or 3 pak-choys ) sometimes add mushrooms/potatoes but not all the time x) Pre-workout :- 3 pieces of chicken fillet ( breast meat ) those buy 3 rm10 from Giant Supermarket ones and a small cup of low fat milk Post-workout :- Protein shake, Gaspari Nutrition Probiotic Series two scoops Dinner :- Catering food ( Small portion, average 2 small chicken drumsticks, 1 cup of vegetables and finger foods like tofu and stuff ) catering very random, sorry Before bed :- One scoop protein shake ( 3 days per week due to financial problems My current workout routine is :- ( this week workout routine, usually its the same every week. Usually. ) WARM UP 5 mins incline 15 speed 6 jog for 5 minutes ( The reason why there are many 'or(s)' is because of my timing MONDAY Biceps, Back and Abs day 4 or 5 Back Exercises, 4 or 5 Bicep Exercises, 2 or 3 Abs Exercises One exercise, 4 sets. FIRST set 14 reps, SECOND set either 10 or 12 reps, THIRD set either 9 or 10 reps, FOURTH set either 8 reps TUESDAY Triceps, Chest and Shoulders 4 or 5 Chest Exercises, 4 or 5 Tricep Exercises, 3 or 4 Shoulder Exercises One exercise, 4 sets. FIRST set 14 reps, SECOND set either 10 or 12 reps, THIRD set either 9 or 10 reps, FOURTH set either 8 reps WEDNESDAY Heavy Lifts and Legs Squats, Deadlifts, Shrugs, bla bla Current Squats :- FIRST SET : 20KGS 12 REPS SECOND SET : 30KGS 10 REPS THIRD SET : 40KGS 9 REPS FOURTH SET : 50KGS TILL FAILURE ( Usually 8 reps Current Deadlifts FIRST SET : 20KGS 10 REPS SECOND SET : 30KGS 10 REPS THIRD SET : 40KGS 9 REPS FOURTH SET : 50KGS TILL FAILURE ( Usually 8 reps ) Then i'll do leg workouts. Calves, Leg Curls, bla bla. Whichever that works my Hamstrings, Calves and the one infront of Hamstrings ( forgot the name, currently stress now Current Shrugs ( Barbell Infront ) FIRST SET : 20KGS 10 REPS SECOND SET : 40KGS 10 REPS THIRD SET : 60KGS 8 REPS FOURTH SET : 60KGS TILL FAILURE ( Usually 8 reps ) THURSDAY Same as MONDAY FRIDAY Same as TUESDAY EITHER SATURDAY OR SUNDAY Same as WEDNESDAY And the same routine all over again Some recommend me to work one muscle per day Some recommend me to work only two muscle group perday Some recommend me to work one muscle per day and abs everyday What do you guys think? Go easy on me This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 12 2012, 10:33 PM |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 12 2012, 10:30 PM) First of all, to comment anything on your workout, you have to be more precise rather than bla bla bla. Yea, maybe 4/5 exercises for leg is good but if you do exercises that target the same muscle's angle twice, then it is not ok and we cannot comment on that due to the bla bla bla. Get it?A proper way to list your exercises should be as below: Lower Body Hypertrophy Day Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats 6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hack squats 3 sets of 8-12 reps Hypertrophy pressing movement: Leg presses 2 sets of 12-15 reps Hypertrophy extension movement: Leg extensions 3 sets of 15-20 reps Hypertrophy pulling movement: Romanian deadlifts 3 sets of 8-12 reps Hypertrophy curling movement: Lying leg curls 2 sets of 12-15 reps Hypertrophy curling movement: Seated leg curls 2 sets of 15-20 reps Hypertrophy calf movement: Donkey calf raises 4 sets of 10-15 reps Hypertrophy calf movement: Seated calf raises 3 sets of 15-20 reps From there we can see that there is one major compound exercise which is the squat, then two pressing movements, one pulling movement so that the ratio of press and pull would be 2:1 (if there is any significant on that). All in all, it is done precisely and detailed. About your diet, if what you consume is enough to meet your macro nutrition and calorie intake, there is nothing much that can be change. |
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:50 AM) First of all, to comment anything on your workout, you have to be more precise rather than bla bla bla. Yea, maybe 4/5 exercises for leg is good but if you do exercises that target the same muscle's angle twice, then it is not ok and we cannot comment on that due to the bla bla bla. Get it? I'm sorry, i'm not really good in naming workout routines. I'll try my best though next time A proper way to list your exercises should be as below: Lower Body Hypertrophy Day Lower Body Power Exercise speed work: Squats 6 sets of 3 reps with 65-70% of normal 3-5 rep max Hypertrophy pressing movement: Hack squats 3 sets of 8-12 reps Hypertrophy pressing movement: Leg presses 2 sets of 12-15 reps Hypertrophy extension movement: Leg extensions 3 sets of 15-20 reps Hypertrophy pulling movement: Romanian deadlifts 3 sets of 8-12 reps Hypertrophy curling movement: Lying leg curls 2 sets of 12-15 reps Hypertrophy curling movement: Seated leg curls 2 sets of 15-20 reps Hypertrophy calf movement: Donkey calf raises 4 sets of 10-15 reps Hypertrophy calf movement: Seated calf raises 3 sets of 15-20 reps From there we can see that there is one major compound exercise which is the squat, then two pressing movements, one pulling movement so that the ratio of press and pull would be 2:1 (if there is any significant on that). All in all, it is done precisely and detailed. About your diet, if what you consume is enough to meet your macro nutrition and calorie intake, there is nothing much that can be change. |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 13 2012, 01:05 AM) If that so, I would suggest that you find a routine that have been create by pro. Why? Because they are pro. They know what they do. There is a reason why this exercise must be done first and this one is last, why do you omit this exercises etc2. If you have the knowledge to do so, then suit yourself. Even -Dan and I are currently using PHAT which is created by Dr. Layne Norton. He is a doctor so I guess that he knows what he do no? |
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Complete sore legs! I like it! Ran another 5km this morning with weight lifting and belly dance, gonna run another round later in the evening and do some abs exercises. I want a six packs! Alien9, any suggestions? XD
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sarah, very nice of you targetting a six pax. how's your progress so far?
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 13 2012, 02:46 PM) sarah, very nice of you targetting a six pax. how's your progress so far? I've already got a nice waist line and managed to shape up, this week see-ing a visible 2 packs As for me, six pax is really really hard unless you take some "supplement" Slow progress, but will double up my workout whenever possible. Not as knowledgeable and pro like other forumers here, but I can't deny my addiction towards workout now |
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Umm, i hope this isnt a stupid question
Let's just say i spent an hour on biceps. Bicep Curls, Hammer Curls, 2 BB Curls, Cable Curls After my bicep workout, i worked on abs :- I did cable crunches I realize that i'm 'compressing' my biceps alot when i do cable crunches. Will it effect the growth of my biceps? Sometimes i feel like i'm doing cable crunches wrongly My hands goes behind my back, the rope touches my shoulder. Something like carrying-a-bag posture UPDATED I think i'm doing it wrongly This post has been edited by gannicholas: Jul 13 2012, 08:31 PM |
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 13 2012, 08:31 PM) Umm, i hope this isnt a stupid question Supposedly, if you are doing an isolation exercise, it should be targeting the intended muscle only (and a bit of nearest/connected muscle).Let's just say i spent an hour on biceps. Bicep Curls, Hammer Curls, 2 BB Curls, Cable Curls After my bicep workout, i worked on abs :- I did cable crunches I realize that i'm 'compressing' my biceps alot when i do cable crunches. Will it effect the growth of my biceps? Sometimes i feel like i'm doing cable crunches wrongly My hands goes behind my back, the rope touches my shoulder. Something like carrying-a-bag posture UPDATED I think i'm doing it wrongly And for your case, your biceps should feel anything if you are doing cable crunches. The abs should be doing all the works, not the biceps. Same like mine when doing pulldowns. If I feel that I'm pulling with my forearm and my biceps compared to my back which is the intended muscle, I'll stop for a moment to adjust my form. If it still not fixed, I'll just drop it. Move on and focus on the next exercise. |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 13 2012, 11:05 PM) Supposedly, if you are doing an isolation exercise, it should be targeting the intended muscle only (and a bit of nearest/connected muscle). What i'm trying to ask is that let's just say i worked on my biceps till its fatigue. Then i moved on to cable crunches, my cable crunches was wrong, i just found out. But anyways, lets just say you bring your fingers to your shoulders, you 'sort of' compress your biceps, will it effect the growth during recovery?And for your case, your biceps should feel anything if you are doing cable crunches. The abs should be doing all the works, not the biceps. Same like mine when doing pulldowns. If I feel that I'm pulling with my forearm and my biceps compared to my back which is the intended muscle, I'll stop for a moment to adjust my form. If it still not fixed, I'll just drop it. Move on and focus on the next exercise. |
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Jul 13 2012, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 13 2012, 11:17 PM) What i'm trying to ask is that let's just say i worked on my biceps till its fatigue. Then i moved on to cable crunches, my cable crunches was wrong, i just found out. But anyways, lets just say you bring your fingers to your shoulders, you 'sort of' compress your biceps, will it effect the growth during recovery? Well, obviously no man. The 'compress' biceps is just like what you done for all the curls. Is that when you do the concentric movement, you are 'compressing' them muscles.Just look for the logic here. If you said that by doing it would stunt your muscle recovery, I shouldn't walk after I've done a leg workout right? |
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Jul 14 2012, 03:36 PM
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5KM jog didn't go well. too many stops along the way. weight still the same for a week. even with dieting. huhu, work harder next week.
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Jul 14 2012, 06:53 PM
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New PR, score! 60kgs deadlift, 4th set 8 reps
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Jul 15 2012, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 30 2012, 06:43 PM) The thing here is that, you have a very low calorie intake. Probably around 1200++ kcal excluding the nuts. Your goal is lose weight and this diet obviously work with you so far but you have to remember this, very low calorie intake is not healthy because you will lose fat+muscle. We want to keep the muscle as much as possible, because muscle is the main source of metabolism; the calorie burning source be it from food or fat. If you have low metabolism, you will have low capability to burn calorie thus your weight loss result will start to diminished. bro, i think you were right. So, what is the proper way to lose weight? You need to consume at least 80% of your calorie maintenance. No lesser than that. Eat more protein, reduce carb intake and do exercises be it aerobic or anerobic exercises. already 1 month im been dieting, so total kg loss = 4.3kg. but i seems like my belly become more flappy. it is because i loss my muscle? rather than that, i feel so happy man, from 120 kg now 116 kg. need to push more |
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Jul 16 2012, 09:36 AM
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Is swimming good exercise for toning up?
Now pick up swimming too as addition exercise other than gym |
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Jul 16 2012, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 09:36 AM) Is swimming good exercise for toning up? You don't need to add swimming if you're already on a good weightlifting regimen. If you want to add it in, do it in cold water, else don't bother. The only thing that you need to do for a nice physique is to watch your diet. To have a perfect one you'll need to weightlift. That's all to it.Now pick up swimming too as addition exercise other than gym This post has been edited by DT1: Jul 16 2012, 09:54 AM |
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Jul 16 2012, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:47 AM) You don't need to add swimming if you're already on a good weightlifting regimen. I'm kinda greedy, wish to get six packs as soon as possible, of cos, even if can't, i'd want to build up real good stamina and firm the entire body to fit fit condition Then again, it is a great form of exercise. Easy on the joints, builds your stamina, and stress relieving. Do it in cold water, which will lead to more calorie expenditure. Yea, doing in the indoor pool, damn cold |
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Jul 16 2012, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 09:53 AM) I'm kinda greedy, wish to get six packs as soon as possible, of cos, even if can't, i'd want to build up real good stamina and firm the entire body to fit fit condition Edited my post above.Yea, doing in the indoor pool, damn cold Yeah, the main thing is to watch your diet. For your case, exercise works like a supplement. You can't run away from solving the diet part. |
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Jul 16 2012, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:55 AM) Edited my post above. Diet is good, I have very minimal carbs, and high protein and fiber diet. The only problem I face is, I'm eating too little Yeah, the main thing is to watch your diet. For your case, exercise works like a supplement. You can't run away from solving the diet part. |
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Jul 16 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 10:01 AM) Diet is good, I have very minimal carbs, and high protein and fiber diet. The only problem I face is, I'm eating too little From this post you sound like a skinny fat person? Eat more. Force it down, with the right foodstuff. Be consistent. First week or two you will feel really uncomfortable, but as with everything in life, once you pass the first threshold, you're set for success. |
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Jul 16 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:28 AM) From this post you sound like a skinny fat person? Eat more. Force it down, with the right foodstuff. Be consistent. First week or two you will feel really uncomfortable, but as with everything in life, once you pass the first threshold, you're set for success. Er... I was fat, as I was on very bad diet, everyday snacks and soft drinks/fast food Anyhow, managed to lost very fast, and maintained nicely but because of my eating problem so now is a skinny fat lo, body fat stucked at 19% never drop |
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Jul 16 2012, 12:20 PM
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My body weight stay at 68kg for almost a month now. I've been doing cardio 3 times around 20-30 minutes each round and 3 times dumbbell lifting per week. Does my body still burning the fats in me?
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Jul 16 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 12:20 PM) My body weight stay at 68kg for almost a month now. I've been doing cardio 3 times around 20-30 minutes each round and 3 times dumbbell lighting per week. Does my body still burning the fats in me? Increase the insensitivity of your cardio? I heard something like our body get used to the exercises already then will need to increase it to burn the fats/calories or something My bad, I'm lousy at remembering these kind of things |
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Jul 16 2012, 02:43 PM
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Already increased my cardio by using 90 second normal speed and 30 second sprint technique but still my weight stay the same. Not been eating oily and fried foods for almost 1 month now.
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Jul 16 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 02:43 PM) Already increased my cardio by using 90 second normal speed and 30 second sprint technique but still my weight stay the same. Not been eating oily and fried foods for almost 1 month now. Maybe take a look at the muscle and strength website for more exercises lo, I find their exercises kinda good and following. Now can see my arms having a bit of the line already You're female or male? My weight also been same for like a year already but I don't intend to drop it further till I can shape up everywhere first |
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Jul 16 2012, 02:51 PM
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Male. I dont plan to lose weight too just to burn off the extra fats on my waistline and thigh
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Jul 16 2012, 03:06 PM
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Jul 16 2012, 03:15 PM
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Guess i need to increase my cardio back to 40 mins. A bro advice me to cut down my cardio last time. But still i feel my waist become smaller as the pants that i used to wear become loose. Need to use belts every now and then
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Jul 16 2012, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 03:15 PM) Guess i need to increase my cardio back to 40 mins. A bro advice me to cut down my cardio last time. But still i feel my waist become smaller as the pants that i used to wear become loose. Need to use belts every now and then I also got my shape from doing cardio I couldn't use belt, but actually to change all the pants and skirts |
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Jul 16 2012, 03:23 PM
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I plan to buy new pants too to restrict myself from getting fat in my waist
Need to wait until i'm toned up only i will do it |
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Jul 16 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 03:23 PM) I plan to buy new pants too to restrict myself from getting fat in my waist Actually is quite a good way to motivate self, especially purposely buy one size smaller for your most favorite and beloved clothes, and you'll force yourself all the way to fit into that Need to wait until i'm toned up only i will do it |
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Jul 16 2012, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 04:17 PM) Actually is quite a good way to motivate self, especially purposely buy one size smaller for your most favorite and beloved clothes, and you'll force yourself all the way to fit into that This mostly happens to girls only. Nowadays out of 10 guys 5 of them have beer belly And some of them still wearing tight tee and their belly is popping out |
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Jul 16 2012, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 05:09 PM) This mostly happens to girls only. Nowadays out of 10 guys 5 of them have beer belly i've seen many men without the belly too And some of them still wearing tight tee and their belly is popping out Those make me droolllll alllllll over!!! Well, it works too one, because you'll feel good when you get to notice you're able to wear a size smaller |
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Jul 16 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 05:20 PM) i've seen many men without the belly too Quite hard to see 1 nowadays. Either they have beer belly or thin like bamboo stick.Those make me droolllll alllllll over!!! Well, it works too one, because you'll feel good when you get to notice you're able to wear a size smaller And mostly chinese who do have the beer belly. Am not trying to be racist here as i'm chinese too |
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Jul 16 2012, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ Jul 15 2012, 02:24 PM) bro, i think you were right. The flabby part should be a good indicator of you are losing fat. That part of your body becomes flabby because of the stretched skin. already 1 month im been dieting, so total kg loss = 4.3kg. but i seems like my belly become more flappy. it is because i loss my muscle? rather than that, i feel so happy man, from 120 kg now 116 kg. need to push more QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 16 2012, 09:53 AM) I'm kinda greedy, wish to get six packs as soon as possible, of cos, even if can't, i'd want to build up real good stamina and firm the entire body to fit fit condition Sometime less is more. If you become too greedy to have everything in a short time period, maybe you won't achieve even one goal. Remember, your body need a rest too. If you do exercises without having sufficient rest, your body might take the tolls and it will cost your dearly.Yea, doing in the indoor pool, damn cold QUOTE(xing87 @ Jul 16 2012, 12:20 PM) My body weight stay at 68kg for almost a month now. I've been doing cardio 3 times around 20-30 minutes each round and 3 times dumbbell lifting per week. Does my body still burning the fats in me? As long as you have calorie deficit in your diet, your body will burn the required amount of fat in your body as fuel. But remember to not to have too much of calorie deficit because your body will start to burn away those muscles thus lowering your body capability to burn those fat. |
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Jul 16 2012, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 16 2012, 06:57 PM) The flabby part should be a good indicator of you are losing fat. That part of your body becomes flabby because of the stretched skin. Yea, I know the important of rest for body, been there and cost me huge amount. Anyhow, now lesson learned and being good, the harder I workout, the more I rest my body Sometime less is more. If you become too greedy to have everything in a short time period, maybe you won't achieve even one goal. Remember, your body need a rest too. If you do exercises without having sufficient rest, your body might take the tolls and it will cost your dearly. As long as you have calorie deficit in your diet, your body will burn the required amount of fat in your body as fuel. But remember to not to have too much of calorie deficit because your body will start to burn away those muscles thus lowering your body capability to burn those fat. |
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Jul 17 2012, 07:39 PM
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I think I am skinny fat though. I got fat but bony/skinny. I do some weight lifts too.
Is it always advisable to do weight lifting first before cardio/spinning? I need to cut down my fat to lose that belly n butt =( |
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Jul 18 2012, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Jul 17 2012, 07:39 PM) I think I am skinny fat though. I got fat but bony/skinny. I do some weight lifts too. Try to read some of the threads here man. Your questions have been answered like so many times. That is why people are ignoring you. Do some comprehensive readings because if you are asking that kind of questions, you would start to ask more questions and we don't want to spoon feeding here.Is it always advisable to do weight lifting first before cardio/spinning? I need to cut down my fat to lose that belly n butt =( No offence man. |
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