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post Jun 5 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM)
Breakfast - 3 In 1 Milo with cereal
Lunch - Chap Fan with chicken that is not fried or curry + egg / beancurd / orangebeen with egg + vege (small portion rice) or roast chicken breast with small portion of rice.
Dinner - Oat + 3 in 1 Milo or Brocolli + cauliflower + carrot braised with salt.
Snack / Supper - Apple 1 or 2 depends on how hungry.

GYM
Trackmill - 35min = 3min walk, 7min jog, 2min walk 8min jog, 2min walk 8 ming jog, 5min walk cool down.
Crosstrainner = 15min
Some abs machine, you can lie on it and put leg on the end, then pull up your body by handle beside left and right (behind also can add weight) = 12times per set, 6 set with 2.5kg weight. (something like sit-up)
Some abs machine, you knee on it and swing left and right - 15times per set, 6 set with 17kg weight
Abs crunch - 20 times per set, 3 set.

This is daily routine for weekdays, weekend only sometime free on Sunday.
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Wow, I think I'll use your diet plan for now, cause I dont have any and I dont know where to start sad.gif I'm 80KG and used to be 65KG.
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post Jun 6 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Faith+1 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:59 PM)
Your meal plan is terrible (lazy to explain) but if you're in calories deficit, you will still lose weight anyway.

And for you workout, just ditch the abs exercises if you think this going to help to lose tummy fats as there is not such thing as spot reduction. You can do your cardio after workout or during OFF days.

Look up for Starting Strength workout, more compound exercises and monitor your daily diet. Not only you will lose weights, but fats as well.
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Don't mind me asking but whats the right meal plan? I'm not sure what diet to follow rclxub.gif so many advices from so many websites and books, haha mostly they say avoid heavy carbs and consume more fibre. But whats the idle balance diet in which both are included? Do you have a diet plan or examples?
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jun 6 2012, 09:02 AM)
There are two types of carbs....simple and complex carbs....for me i'd avoid simple carbs...go for complex carbs and you need carbs for energy. There are so called refined and unrefined carbs and unrefined carbs is better than refined carbs in term of simple carbs. So search up those term and you will know more
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Thanks, found it smile.gif http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm

Food Sources
Carbohydrates are classified as simple or complex. The classification depends on the chemical structure of the food, and how quickly the sugar is digested and absorbed. Simple carbohydrates have one (single) or two (double) sugars. Complex carbohydrates have three or more sugars.

Examples of single sugars from foods include:

Fructose (found in fruits)
Galactose (found in milk products)
Double sugars include:

Lactose (found in dairy)
Maltose (found in certain vegetables and in beer)
Sucrose (table sugar)
Honey is also a double sugar. But unlike table sugar, it contains a small amount of vitamins and minerals. (Note: Honey should not be given to children younger than 1 year old.)

Complex carbohydrates, often referred to as "starchy" foods, include:

Legumes
Starchy vegetables
Whole-grain breads and cereals
Simple carbohydrates that contain vitamins and minerals occur naturally in:

Fruits
Milk and milk products
Vegetables
Simple carbohydrates are also found in processed and refined sugars such as:

Candy
Regular (nondiet) carbonated beverages, such as soda
Syrups
Table sugar
Refined sugars provide calories, but lack vitamins, minerals, and fiber. Such simple sugars are often called "empty calories" and can lead to weight gain.

Also, many refined foods, such as white flour, sugar, and white rice, lack B vitamins and other important nutrients unless they are marked "enriched." It is healthiest to get carbohydrates, vitamins, and other nutrients in as natural a form as possible -- for example, from fruit instead of table sugar.


Added on June 6, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(Faith+1 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:59 PM)
Your meal plan is terrible (lazy to explain) but if you're in calories deficit, you will still lose weight anyway.

And for you workout, just ditch the abs exercises if you think this going to help to lose tummy fats as there is not such thing as spot reduction. You can do your cardio after workout or during OFF days.

Look up for Starting Strength workout, more compound exercises and monitor your daily diet. Not only you will lose weights, but fats as well.
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Recommendations
Most people should get between 40% and 60% of total calories from carbohydrates, preferably from complex carbohydrates (starches) and natural sugars. Complex carbohydrates provide calories, vitamins, minerals, and fiber.

Foods that are high in processed, refined simple sugars provide calories, but very little nutrition. It is wise to limit these sugars.

To increase complex carbohydrates and healthy nutrients:

Eat more fruits and vegetables.
Eat more whole-grain rice, breads, and cereals.
Eat more legumes (beans, lentils, and dried peas).
Here are recommended serving sizes for foods high in carbohydrates:

Vegetables: 1 cup of raw vegetables, or 1/2 cup cooked vegetables, or 3/4 cup of vegetable juice
Fruits: 1 medium-size fruit (such as 1 medium apple or 1 medium orange), 1/2 cup of a canned or chopped fruit, or 3/4 cup of fruit juice
Breads and cereals: 1 slice of bread; 1 ounce or 2/3 cup of ready-to-eat cereal; 1/2 cup of cooked rice, pasta, or cereal; 1/2 cup of cooked dry beans, lentils, or dried peas
Dairy: 1 cup of skim or low-fat milk
For information about how many servings are recommended, see the article on the food guide plate.

Here is a sample 2,000 calorie menu, of which 50 - 60% of the total calories are from carbohydrates:

Breakfast
Cold cereal
1 cup shredded wheat cereal
1 tbsp raisins
1 cup fat-free milk
1 small banana
1 slice whole-wheat toast
1 tsp soft margarine
1 tsp jelly
Lunch
Smoked turkey sandwich
2 ounces whole-wheat pita bread
1/4 cup romaine lettuce
2 slices tomato
3 ounces sliced smoked turkey breast
1 tbsp mayo-type salad dressing
1 tsp yellow mustard
1/2 cup apple slices
1 cup tomato juice
Dinner
Grilled top loin steak
5 ounces grilled top loin steak
3/4 cup mashed potatoes
2 tsp soft margarine
1/2 cup steamed carrots
1 tbsp honey
2 ounces whole-wheat dinner roll
1 tsp soft margarine
1 cup fat-free milk
Snacks
1 cup low-fat fruit yogurt

Source: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm

You mean something like this?

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post Jun 7 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Altruis @ Jun 7 2012, 01:11 AM)
Disclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion".

Basically losing weight is very basic maths.

Energy input must be less than energy output to lose weight.
You can either decrease input or increase output
Every 3300 calories you reduce you lose 1kg of fat

Reduce your calorie intake a day to 1400 calories, and you have -600 calories per day
assuming you have a cheat day/willpower fails 1x a week
you will lose approximately 1kg a week

The other option is to increase output. Running 1 hour increases output by about 600 calories. Do that 6x a week and you lose 1kg fat too.

You can of course combine part of both to acheive the results you want
The other option is physical removal of fat

There is currently on 2 methods - the generally recognised method is liposuction

The newer alternative is injection lipolysis - still has not gotten FDA approval yet for cosmetic sculpting. It is only FDA approved for injection into the bloodstream to break down fatty plaques that obstruct blood vessels. Nevertheless it is widely used in US/Europe and it costs about 400-500 USD.

I've gotten hold of a vial of it and I think it holds much promise. I experimented on myself. XD. Injected the left side of my tummy with the active compound, and injected the right side of my tummy with normal saline. Within a week, when I was pinching the fat on my tummy I realised the left side was bout 2cm thick whereas the right side was 3cm thick. Needless to say I am now busy injecting over my entire stomach.


Added on June 7, 2012, 1:31 amDisclaimer first : as the title at the start of this forum says - all health advice here is not to be taken as medical advice, so though I am a current practicing medical officer, I am to be just considered as voicing my own "opinion".
Very possible but you need strong willpower. Take a 1200-1400 calorie diet daily and you should reach your target
Try to do some resistance/weights too so you can maintain your muscle mass.

Willpower is going to be the toughest part.
I know because even this week itself though I was trying to keep to a 1400 kcal diet, I seriously exceeded it.
I still did manage to lose weight though, but that was cause I was cheating with other stuff.
Past 3 weeks lost 1 kg per week. Then I realised my calorie restriction was failing last week. (reduction of energy input failing)

monday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), satay 4 sticks (200 calories), spaghetti (300 calories) = 1640 calories
tuesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), tomyum (400 calories), fries (375 calories), double chicken burger (780 calories), coke (240 calories) = 2300 calories
wednesday - 280g beef, grilled (500 calories), protein shake (640 calories), triple patty burger (900 calories), satay 12 sticks (600 calories) = 2640 calories
thursday - KFC snack plate (1180 calories), protein shake (640 calories), 280g beef (500 calories) = 2320 calories
friday - coffee (150 calories), starbucks venti (600 calories), home cooked dinner (circa 600 calories) = 1350 calories

Realising my diet was gonna fail and that there would be a :horror: gain that weekend, I started on backup plan.

I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output)
I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat)

Net result = last week only lost 500g

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Moral of the story : willpower is what will make or break the dieting plan. If your willpower is strong enough then no problem you can reach your target.
If willpower weak however sweat.gif  sweat.gif then need to find other methods.
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Interesting bro, thanks for sharing.

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I commenced thyroxine analogues and increased caffeine consumption. (to increase energy output)
I also cheated further by initiating the injection lipolysis experiment to chemically localised breakdown of fat cells. (physical/chemical destruction of fat)
- as in increase coffee consumption? or tea? or anything with caffeine?
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:08 AM

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Whats good (drink/food) to have after a hardcore work out? I find that my muscles takes a long time to recover sad.gif gym kaki says drink milk, other say drink protein whey hmm
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post Jun 21 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 21 2012, 01:17 AM)
Key to quick recovery:

At least 6 hours of sleep, the more the better
Daily diet consisting of at least 1.6g of protein per kg of body weight
Nutritious diet with no major nutrient deficiency

Slow digesting protein, e.g. casein/milk before sleep
Whey protein blend (isolate and concentrate) pre-workout
High GI carbs + whey isolate post workout
If money is not an issue, BCAAs post workout

That should be all.
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 21 2012, 08:25 AM)
You need healthy meal with sufficient protein for your recovery. Usually after workout, you need to take protein like protein shake or a solid meal within 1 hour after workout.

additionally, if you are taking too long time recovering, this may be due to you overtrain or did too much volume per muscle part. For example if you do 18++ set of chest exercise. I think this is over train. Try to reduce to 12-16 set per muscle part.
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Thanks DT1 & kurtkob78, what protein supplements should I get? Brand? not sure in the long run is it healthy? i heard too much protein/calcium causes kidney stones etc.
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post Jun 25 2012, 08:38 AM

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first week of training - 850gm lost, mostly water haha. Did 10km set jogs on treadmill for 3 days, the rest are cardio and swimming.
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post Jun 25 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 11:49 AM)
10km? Wow! How long? I cant stand jogging for 10km! Max 4km, i get bored easilly
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about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* tongue.gif


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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 11:49 AM)
10km? Wow! How long? I cant stand jogging for 10km! Max 4km, i get bored easilly
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about 45 mins, abit slow me. HAHA unfit liao. I got a whole music playlist to keep me accompanied. Plus got girls to look at *ok im joking* tongue.gif

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post Jun 25 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 25 2012, 12:21 PM)
Ahaha ok what 45 minutes is not bad! What speed? Nowadays i start with incline 0, speed 12 for the first 2 mintues, then speed 14 for the next 2 minutes then speed 20 till failure. Girls looking, thats the best thing ever mann
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Dude...speed 12?! sprinting ah?! hahahaha i start with incline 1, 2 mins at 5.5 (fast walking) then 8.5 for the rest until i hit 10km. Hahahaha, I'm not that fit to be looked at. sweat.gif
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post Jun 25 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 25 2012, 01:15 PM)
10km jogs + cardio + swimming but only 850g weight loss? How is your diet?
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My diet is quiet bad, as I have to entertain clients and attend two wedding dinners last week and this week. The horror, not the mention the temptations tongue.gif I'm cutting down on carbs this week and increase greenery intake. Tuna and wholemeal bread advisable?
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post Jun 26 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 25 2012, 01:26 PM)
It is good that you notice that it is bad. I guess you can alter your diet to become more healthy but still you need to entertain clients right so... You still can eat but keep it to minimum. Hate to see that all the weeks of exercising go down to the toilet just like that right?
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HAha yeah man,avoiding all those fast food and soft drinks and oily food. btw is tuna and wholemeal bread advisable? without mayo etc. with egg whites maybe? im trying to find alternatives but not completely shutting out food that i like.
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post Jun 29 2012, 09:10 AM

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man..didnt hit the gym this week yet, feeling all so shitty. working late, due dates omg! target for this month failed kaw kaw
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post Jul 3 2012, 06:55 PM

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I'm still stuck at work icon_question.gif mad.gif not been to gym for a week now
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post Jul 4 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 3 2012, 07:32 PM)
Relax man. Been off from gym for a month, just started back again yesterday. Consider that your week off from gym as a resting week. Your body need to rest to you know, ridding all the accumulated fatigue. If you manage to go to the gym, you would feel like refresh and more energize.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, booked Sat for morning to afternoon workout session. Gym trainer calling me hahaha, ffk too many times liao! thanks bro, i think i rested too much..hardwork last last week went down the drain.
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 4 2012, 10:52 AM)
Lower and side belly fats, so hard to get rid off  doh.gif
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Diet + long term consistent exercise! *easier said than done* Long way more for me at this rate of workout schedule
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post Jul 6 2012, 08:32 PM

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@gannicholas wanna be superman ka?

I did insanity yesterday, omg almost died. haha lembik already
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 08:36 PM)
Insanity?  blink.gif
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Basically some cardio workout smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLK28BHJDd8
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 6 2012, 10:50 PM)
The usage of word cardio is absolutely wrong there.
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Body pump according to gannicholas? haha i duno whats the diff :s

QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 11:12 PM)
Oh, watched this video before. This is more to body pump, etc  smile.gif. I dont seem to be attracted to all these kind of workouts, dont know why  icon_idea.gif
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I follow a bunch of friends for that night workout. epic fail, ended up going mcd.
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 6 2012, 11:39 PM)
McDonalds, damnnn! I never had beef/chicken McD burger in 7 months!
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7 months & you're still alive?! haha me 5.5 months and counting. tongue.gif

Btw do you guys use standard weighing scale or the ones with body fat/water measurement thinggy? Price diff for manual to digital to the body fat/water function is a huge gap, but worth the investment?
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post Jul 10 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 10 2012, 09:15 AM)
88kgs today. Broke my barrier of 90kgs within 2 months. laugh.gif
now need to work towards 85kgs followed by 80kgs.

Feeling great seeing that I was a massive ~100kgs when I started out.
Feeling not so great that work/commitments have made me skip my gym sessions since Saturday sad.gif
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Keep it going! rclxms.gif

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