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post Feb 28 2017, 06:58 AM, updated 8y ago

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Welcome! To the V13 Edition of the Recommendation Thread!! [B] thumbup.gif

Thanks for the continous support from the contributors and forumers. It's been an honor working with the contributors helping others in their journey for the ultimate rig. We are here to help you build your pc from the ground up based on your requirements. notworthy.gif

Please do provide the following info while posting

[B][Budget]


[Purpose]

[Hardwares that will be re-use]

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences]

[Location]
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More updates to come from time to time.Contributors are mostly welcomed!!

Current contributor lists :

- Cable707
- Marfccy
- Pfftclock
- Clem1982
- rav3n82
- Chocobo7779
- Minecrafter
- Zgames
- Goldfries
- TristanX
- terence_nwb
- mod_po
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Pricelists

Low Yat Plaza:
C-Zone - http://www.compu-zone.com
Startec - http://www.startec.com.my
Cycom - http://www.cycom.com.my
Thundermatch (lots of branches outside KL) - http://www.thundermatch.com.my
Idealtech: http://idealtech.com.my/DOWNLOAD/IDEALTECH-PRICELIST.pdf
Viewnet: http://www.viewnet.com.my/downloads/viewne...y_pricelist.pdf
Jayacom: http://www.jayacom.com.my/pricelist/diy/D.I.Y%20hardware.pdf
Etech: http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/easyit2u.htm
Swisspac (Penang):here
Navotech (Johor/Melaka):here

For one-stop price-list - http://www.goldfries.com/pc-component-price-list-malaysia/

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LYN Vendors

For those who are unable to obtain a certain part (due to availability issues), here is a list of forumers which you can buy parts from:

1. Hikari85 ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/Hikari85 )
2. lingloong ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/lingloong )
3. Idealtech PC (Idealtech Facebook)
4. GBros ( https://forum.lowyat.net/user/GBros )
5. CyntrixTech (no longer active, may require you to message their Facebook page instead: https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech )
6. goldfries (shop@goldfries)

Just drop them a personal message and tell them which parts do you need, and if the stocks are available, proceed to payment and they will mail the item to you. icon_idea.gif

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OTHER HELPFUL THREADS:

Extras: Power Supply Wattage Recommendation
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035


Extras: RMA DIRECTORY
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/861703

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Note : All rigs will be updated on a weekly basis and please forgive us for some delay update.Our contributor might be busy from time to time on their stuff.. notworthy.gif
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Big price drops from Intel:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/int...p-ryzen-launch/

You might wanna hold your purchase. AMD Ryzen or Intel? Wait for real world benchmarks.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 28 2017, 12:35 PM)
Big price drops from Intel:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/int...p-ryzen-launch/

You might wanna hold your purchase. AMD Ryzen or Intel? Wait for real world benchmarks.
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Interesting times ahead for us consumers/enthusiasts
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Feb 28 2017, 12:35 PM)
Big price drops from Intel:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/int...p-ryzen-launch/

You might wanna hold your purchase. AMD Ryzen or Intel? Wait for real world benchmarks.
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So around when can we get the discounted price in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(REManiac @ Feb 28 2017, 03:02 PM)
So around when can we get the discounted price in Malaysia?
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Once it becomes official, it will be immediate. Shops will get "rebated" by the distributors.
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post Feb 28 2017, 03:49 PM

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Hi. I am in need to upgrade my graphic card.

My Witcher 3 is collecting dust in my steam library. Can anyone recommend any graphic card that will not cost more than RM 1500? The less the better as i want to save money wherever i can. And which controller is better, ds4 or xbox 360 controller? thanks

My PC specs as per below:
i5 6600k
GIGABYTE Z170-HD3
8gig ram
PSU seasonic 620
1080p monitor
OLD HD 6800 graphic card
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Feb 28 2017, 03:40 PM)
Once it becomes official, it will be immediate. Shops will get "rebated" by the distributors.
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i see, just hope it gets official here soon, need a new PC urgently cry.gif
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QUOTE(djnerv @ Feb 28 2017, 03:49 PM)
Hi. I am in need to upgrade my graphic card.

My Witcher 3 is collecting dust in my steam library. Can anyone recommend any graphic card that will not cost more than RM 1500? The less the better as i want to save money wherever i can. And which controller is better, ds4 or xbox 360 controller? thanks

My PC specs as per below:
i5 6600k
GIGABYTE Z170-HD3
8gig ram
PSU seasonic 620
1080p monitor
OLD HD 6800 graphic card
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Gigabyte GTX1060 Windforce OC 6Gb - RM1385 (Idealtech), or
EVGA GTX1060 Superclocked 3Gb - RM1199 (Idealtech)

Read this for benchmark on Witcher 3


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QUOTE(REManiac @ Feb 28 2017, 03:02 PM)
So around when can we get the discounted price in Malaysia?
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Usually it will take few weeks.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Feb 28 2017, 04:19 PM)
Gigabyte GTX1060 Windforce OC 6Gb - RM1385 (Idealtech), or
EVGA GTX1060 Superclocked 3Gb - RM1199 (Idealtech)

Read this for benchmark on Witcher 3
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Thanks for the article. Thats a good read right there.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Feb 28 2017, 04:19 PM)
Gigabyte GTX1060 Windforce OC 6Gb - RM1385 (Idealtech), or
EVGA GTX1060 Superclocked 3Gb - RM1199 (Idealtech)

Read this for benchmark on Witcher 3
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For those who want a good PC made by Impulse Gaming,

Refer to http://www.impulse.com.my/pc/crimson-gear

flex.gif From RM2199 until RM14999!!!
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Intel G4560
GSKILL 8GB
850EVO 120GB
Asus H110
nVIDIA GT730
FTEC Casing
PSU 500w

Windows 10
MS Office

I'm building this PC for a person, based on internet, office work, & video watching.

GT730 added, incase of light gaming.

Any thoughts on this build?
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QUOTE(NekoRacing @ Mar 1 2017, 01:50 AM)
Intel G4560
GSKILL 8GB
850EVO 120GB
Asus H110
nVIDIA GT730
FTEC Casing
PSU 500w

Windows 10
MS Office

I'm building this PC for a person, based on internet, office work, & video watching.

GT730 added, incase of light gaming.

Any thoughts on this build?
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GT730 is on par (or just slightly faster) with the iGPU of G4560 which is HD 610, not worth spending extra for GT730 TBH, save the money or go for better model instead.


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QUOTE(NekoRacing @ Mar 1 2017, 01:50 AM)
Intel G4560
GSKILL 8GB
850EVO 120GB
Asus H110
nVIDIA GT730
FTEC Casing
PSU 500w

Windows 10
MS Office

I'm building this PC for a person, based on internet, office work, & video watching.

GT730 added, incase of light gaming.

Any thoughts on this build?
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It's fine to me for very budget PC spec. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 1 2017, 08:39 AM)
GT730 is on par (or just slightly faster) with the iGPU of G4560 which is HD 610, not worth spending extra for GT730 TBH, save the money or go for better model instead.
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In this case, wouldn't it be better if I remove the GPU, and upgrade the processor to i3 7100?

Next GPU upgrade would be nVIDIA 1050, light gaming would most likely be Candy Crush, Bejeweled.

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QUOTE(NekoRacing @ Mar 1 2017, 11:18 AM)
In this case, wouldn't it be better if I remove the GPU, and upgrade the processor to i3 7100?

Next GPU upgrade would be nVIDIA 1050, light gaming would most likely be Candy Crush, Bejeweled.
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The benefits of i3 7100 over G4560 are slightly faster core clock speed and iGPU (HD 630), its price tag is the double of G4560, I wouldn't recommend it unless you really need those minor enhancements.

HD 630 is around 25% faster than HD 610.
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Can anyone suggest me RM3k+- rig that is mainly for gaming? Thanks in advanced.. no monitor needed just rig..
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Mar 1 2017, 02:46 PM)
Can anyone suggest me RM3k+- rig that is mainly for gaming? Thanks in advanced.. no monitor needed just rig..
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Disclosing type of games and resolution of monitor will help to provide a better recommendation that is wallet friendly
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CPU: Intel Pentium G4560
MOBO: ASUS H110M-D
RAM: GSKill AEGIS 4GB DDR4 2133mhz
Case: AVF Casing with 450W PSU
SSD: WD 1TB Caviar Blue HDD

Currently I want to make this build w/o gpu and use for watch movie on my 40' FHD TV

Later I will pair up with gtx 1060 3gb

May I know is there any issue on usage with the PSU 450W?
And any issue with gaming while using TV?
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QUOTE(mrisham2 @ Mar 1 2017, 04:36 PM)
CPU: Intel Pentium G4560
MOBO: ASUS H110M-D
RAM: GSKill AEGIS 4GB DDR4 2133mhz
Case: AVF Casing with 450W PSU
SSD: WD 1TB Caviar Blue HDD

Currently I want to make this build w/o gpu and use for watch movie on my 40' FHD TV

Later I will pair up with gtx 1060 3gb

May I know is there any issue on usage with the PSU 450W?
And any issue with gaming while using TV?
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AVF 450W is low end PSU, don't expect good quality with this unit but it will still work just fine, lifespan might be shorter than others though, if you can, always go for a better PSU, it is like the heart of all the components.

TV has much higher input lag compared to PC monitor, manufacturers never disclose this data so it is quite hard to track the real input lag value but you will experience it easily if you play a lot of fast pace games like CS:GO, Overwatch etc.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 1 2017, 03:08 PM)
Disclosing type of games and resolution of monitor will help to provide a better recommendation that is wallet friendly
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Thanks for your helping..

Wish to play latest game at playable fps
Monitor resolution 1920X1080

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Mar 2 2017, 10:39 AM)
Thanks for your helping..

Wish to play latest game at playable fps
Monitor resolution 1920X1080
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Prices are currently in a state of flux because of incoming new (lower) pricing on Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU. Based on currently available prices, here's a potential build for you:

1. CPU - Intel i5 7400 - RM835
2. MOBO - ASUS H110M-K - RM279
3. RAM - 8gb DDR4-2133 - RM289
4. Case - Fractal Design Define C Window - RM399
5. PSU - SuperFlower Leadex Silver 650W - RM399
6. SSD - Samsung 850EVO 120GB - RM299
7. HDD - 1TB 7200rpm - RM219

Total RM2719 before "rebates" based on Idealtech

For GPU, you could choose from:
1. Gigabyte GTX1050 2GB - RM579
2. Gigabyte GTX1050ti 4GB - RM719
3. Gigabyte GTX1060 3GB - RM1229
4. Gigabyte GTX1060 Windforce OC 6GB - RM1385


You can fine-tune using Idealtech's tool here.
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Hi guys, i need advice to build my Rig

[Budget] RM5500 ~ RM6000

[Purpose] Gaming (AAA), Movie, etc

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] -

[Games & softwares that use frequently] latest games, AAA title

[Personal preferences] i5/i7 (Kabylake), Z270 Mobo (prefer MSI, open any suggestion), GTX1070/GTX1080, Liquid CPU cooler

[Location] KL

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QUOTE(masterawai @ Mar 2 2017, 11:56 AM)
Hi guys, i need advice to build my Rig

[Budget] RM5500 ~ RM6000

[Purpose] Gaming (AAA), Movie, etc

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor,Keyboard,mouse

[Monitor resolution] -

[Games & softwares that use frequently] latest games, AAA title

[Personal preferences] i5/i7 (Kabylake), Z270 Mobo (prefer MSI, open any suggestion), GTX1070/GTX1080, Liquid CPU cooler

[Location] KL
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If you are not in a hurry, suggest you wait a bit. Price adjustments expected on Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU soon.

EDIT : What monitor resolution will you be gaming on? 1080p means you won't need super high-end GPU

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 2 2017, 12:00 PM)
If you are not in a hurry, suggest you wait a bit. Price adjustments expected on Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU soon.

EDIT : What monitor resolution will you be gaming on? 1080p means you won't need super high-end GPU
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I'm not really hurry, could be around 3 or 4 months from today,

and if 1080p resolution, which GPU should i buy? and if 1440p?
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QUOTE(masterawai @ Mar 2 2017, 12:14 PM)
I'm not really hurry, could be around 3 or 4 months from today,

and if 1080p resolution, which GPU should i buy? and if 1440p?
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If in no hurry, you will get better value with your budget. In any case, 1080p with ultra settings, a GTX1070 is good. A GTX1060 may do too but some settings will need to be scaled down. For 1440p with ultra settings, a GTX1080 is recommended. FYI GTX1080TI has been announced. Definitely a consideration as it is supposed to be good for 4k and even 5k resolution. This means it will rock 1440p. Price point will be circa current GTX1080. So, should you wait? Definitely!!
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 2 2017, 12:28 PM)
If in no hurry, you will get better value with your budget. In any case, 1080p with ultra settings, a GTX1070 is good. A GTX1060 may do too but some settings will need to be scaled down. For 1440p with ultra settings, a GTX1080 is recommended. FYI GTX1080TI has been announced. Definitely a consideration as it is supposed to be good for 4k and even 5k resolution. This means it will rock 1440p. Price point will be circa current GTX1080. So, should you wait? Definitely!!
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Thinking want to build a long term PC for gaming. Buy some basic stuff first then upgrade later.

[B][Budget] RM1500 - 2000

[Purpose] Mostly focusing on Gaming + Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard, Mouse,

[Monitor resolution] 1080p fine by me.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop, DOTA2, Vegas Pro

[Personal preferences] Smooth gaming or rendering. Recommend me. Donno much bout PC. thanks.

[Location] Selangor
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QUOTE(Lycan91 @ Mar 2 2017, 02:48 PM)
Thinking want to build a long term PC for gaming. Buy some basic stuff first then upgrade later.

[B][Budget] RM1500 - 2000

[Purpose] Mostly focusing on Gaming + Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard, Mouse,

[Monitor resolution] 1080p fine by me.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop, DOTA2, Vegas Pro

[Personal preferences] Smooth gaming or rendering. Recommend me. Donno much bout PC. thanks.

[Location] Selangor
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Your budget is not easy to build a "long term PC", you gonna spend ~RM 500 for a 1080p monitor and ~RM 1500 for the rest of the components (assuming you can fork out 2k max budget), 1.5k is not a healthy budget to deal with especially when gaming is involved, 2 paths for you to choose in this scenario:

1. Get a reasonable + decent CPU and use its iGPU for gaming first, I notice you only listed Dota 2 so iGPU is probably fine if you aren't too picky on the settings that you can run, this path will not include a discrete GPU until you have more funds.

2. Run everything on low end hardware, this will grant you with a low end CPU + low end discrete GPU for gaming.

I would recommend 1st option since you are going to upgrade the parts later, it is much easier to upgrade or add in a discrete GPU later on than upgrading both CPU and GPU at the same time in the future.
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[Budget] unlimited

[Purpose] Gaming only

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None since my 1080p and CSGO pc needs them biggrin.gif

[Monitor resolution] 1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Origin, Uplay

[Personal preferences]

CPU - Intel i7
Mobo - z270? (ATX is preferred)
CPU Cooler - (do i need this?)
RAM - 16gb
Casing - S340 Elite TG
PSU - Full Modular
GFX - recommend
SSD1 - 240/256 for OS & Software
SSD2 - For games, 1TB perhaps or 500/512 dual?
Monitor - recommend (preferably 27" IPS, i don't know whether i need G-Sync or not)

[Location] I prefer Etech PC

[Side Notes] I can compromise with the video setting with high only, no hairworks stuff but any suggestion is welcomed nod.gif


Thanks in advance

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QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Mar 3 2017, 08:46 AM)
[Budget] unlimited

[Purpose] Gaming only

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None since my 1080p and CSGO pc needs them  biggrin.gif

[Monitor resolution] 1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Origin, Uplay

[Personal preferences]

CPU - Intel i7
Mobo - z270? (ATX is preferred)
CPU Cooler - (do i need this?)
RAM - 16gb
Casing - S340 Elite TG
PSU - Full Modular
GFX - recommend
SSD1 - 240/256 for OS & Software
SSD2 - For games, 1TB perhaps or 500/512 dual?
Monitor - recommend (preferably 27" IPS, i don't know whether i need G-Sync or not)

[Location] I prefer Etech PC

[Side Notes] I can compromise with the video setting with high only, no hairworks stuff but any suggestion is welcomed  nod.gif


Thanks in advance
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Unlimited budget?? Wait for GTX1080ti to hit Malaysian market. Expect price will be RM38xx. Get 2 for SLI for ultra setting on EVERYTHING

CPU - Intel i7-7700K RM1559 - Price expected to drop a due to recent Intel announcement
Mobo - ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming RM1200
CPU Cooler - NZXT Kraken X62 RM759 (nice bling bling)
RAM - GSkill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB DDR4-3200 RM799 (more bling bling)
Casing - S340 Elite TG RM475
PSU - Full Modular Superflower Leadex Gold 750W RM549
GFX - recommend GTX 1080ti ~RM38xx
SSD1 - 240/256 for OS & Software - Samsung 960 EVO M2 500GB RM1250 (super fast speed!)
SSD2 - For games, 1TB - Samsung 850EVO RM2199
Monitor - recommend (preferably 27" IPS, i don't know whether i need G-Sync or not)- Predator X34A RM4699 or Acer XB271HU RM3699
- Bangsawan monitor: ASUS PG348Q RM6269 or ASUS PG279Q RM4159

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QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Mar 3 2017, 08:46 AM)
[Budget] unlimited

[Purpose] Gaming only

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None since my 1080p and CSGO pc needs them  biggrin.gif

[Monitor resolution] 1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Steam, Origin, Uplay

[Personal preferences]

CPU - Intel i7
Mobo - z270? (ATX is preferred)
CPU Cooler - (do i need this?)
RAM - 16gb
Casing - S340 Elite TG
PSU - Full Modular
GFX - recommend
SSD1 - 240/256 for OS & Software
SSD2 - For games, 1TB perhaps or 500/512 dual?
Monitor - recommend (preferably 27" IPS, i don't know whether i need G-Sync or not)

[Location] I prefer Etech PC

[Side Notes] I can compromise with the video setting with high only, no hairworks stuff but any suggestion is welcomed  nod.gif


Thanks in advance
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If you prefer to build now (or in other word, get it done within these few days), then you don't really have to wait for GTX1080Ti, GTX1080 has its price dropped since GTX1080Ti launched few days ago and Zotac Malaysia is the first one to announce the price drop, you can get a Zotac branded GTX1080 at just ~2.7k (depends on the variants you get). But you have "unlimited" budget so it is really up to you whether to opt for GTX1080Ti biggrin.gif


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dear sifu here, finally my 9 years old i7 860 rig keep popping out some issue recently. i was thinking change it to AMD 8320, i was wondering is there any amd mobo still supporting 1333 ram with the AMD 8320?

my current build
CPU - Intel i7 860 <---upgradeing this
Mobo - msi gd55-65 <---upgradeing this
RAM - 16gb 1333
Casing - CM 690
PSU - 500w (9 years old)
GPU - GTX750 oc
SSD1 - 240 for OS & Software
HDD1 - 1 TB

reason why i dont go for intel because the price is too high i dont think worth it. i only play wow and cs go and normal video editing. any suggestion?
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QUOTE(cfyong2020 @ Mar 3 2017, 04:45 PM)
dear sifu here, finally my 9 years old i7 860 rig keep popping out some issue recently. i was thinking change it to AMD 8320, i was wondering is there any amd mobo still supporting 1333 ram with the AMD 8320?

my current build
CPU - Intel i7 860 <---upgradeing this
Mobo - msi gd55-65 <---upgradeing this
RAM - 16gb 1333
Casing - CM 690
PSU - 500w (9 years old)
GPU - GTX750 oc
SSD1 - 240 for OS & Software
HDD1 - 1 TB

reason why i dont go for intel because the price is too high i dont think worth it. i only play wow and cs go and normal video editing. any suggestion?
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CS:GO favors Intel CPU, or in other words, it is a single threaded games and the CPU single core performance is vital in this games, FX8320 loses out to modern Intel CPU by quite a huge margin.

FX processors core definition isn't the same with Intel's one, they are like 2 integer cores into a "larger" module, and these 2 cores are sharing similar resources in the module.

An back to your question, AM3+ uses DDR3 RAM, so your 1333MHz DDR3 will work just fine on AM3+ mobo.
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Hi, I'm looking for a rig that is "okay" enough to run 3ds max, fusion, 123d design.
My budget is below rm2000 (as low as possible), and my preference is at least 8gb ram in it. Any recommendation? Thank you smile.gif
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QUOTE(JinYin @ Mar 3 2017, 08:22 PM)
Hi, I'm looking for a rig that is "okay" enough to run 3ds max, fusion, 123d design.
My budget is below rm2000 (as low as possible), and my preference is at least 8gb ram in it. Any recommendation? Thank you smile.gif
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As low as possible.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1543 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

You can consider to add an SSD to improve system responsiveness and reduce boot time or GPU to improve graphics rendering.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 3 2017, 09:15 PM)
As low as possible.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1543 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

You can consider to add an SSD to improve system responsiveness and reduce boot time or GPU to improve graphics rendering.
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Thanks for replying smile.gif , any gpu would you recommend to go with this rig? (within rm2000 budget)
I saw these 2 gpus on ETECH lelong:
gt740 and rx460
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QUOTE(JinYin @ Mar 4 2017, 09:41 AM)
Thanks for replying smile.gif , any gpu would you recommend to go with this rig? (within rm2000 budget)
I saw these 2 gpus on ETECH lelong:
gt740 and rx460
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RX460 is much faster than GT740 but it lacks of Nvidia CUDA technology which is being used/utilized by some of the rendering software out there.

RX460 is indeed a better pick than GT740, it is not necessary to get a discrete GPU now if you are short on budget though nod.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 4 2017, 10:16 AM)
RX460 is much faster than GT740 but it lacks of Nvidia CUDA technology which is being used/utilized by some of the rendering software out there.

RX460 is indeed a better pick than GT740, it is not necessary to get a discrete GPU now if you are short on budget though  nod.gif
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hi all , what is the cheapest GPU I can get ? My purpose is just want to have dual digital output, at least one HDMI because one of my monitor can only receive hdmi , then another can receive hdmi or dvi. So the GPU should have either hdmi+dvi , or hdmi + hdmi , any recommendation ? Both monitor are only up to 1080P. Prefer nvidia.
My mobo only support hdmi + vga that why I need to upgrade. Budget under Rm300 , possible ?

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Mar 4 2017, 01:21 PM)
hi all , what is the cheapest GPU I can get  ? My purpose is just want to have dual digital output, at least one HDMI because one of my monitor can only receive hdmi , then another can receive hdmi or dvi. So the GPU should have either hdmi+dvi , or hdmi + hdmi , any recommendation ? Prefer nvidia
My mobo only support hdmi + vga that why I need to upgrade.
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RX 460 2GB
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RX 460 2GB
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thanks for the reply sifu, however , i forgot to mention that my budget around Rm300, possible ? Since i dont do any gaming, just want digital output
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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Mar 4 2017, 01:21 PM)
hi all , what is the cheapest GPU I can get  ? My purpose is just want to have dual digital output, at least one HDMI because one of my monitor can only receive hdmi , then another can receive hdmi or dvi. So the GPU should have either hdmi+dvi , or hdmi + hdmi , any recommendation ? Both monitor are only up to 1080P. Prefer nvidia.
My mobo only support hdmi + vga that why I need to upgrade. Budget under Rm300 , possible ?
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You go try look for deals in GS section. Here's an example

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thanks for the reply sifu, however , i forgot to mention that my budget around Rm300, possible ? Since i dont do any gaming, just want digital output
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You need to look at 2nd hand market just like this.

http://www.mudah.my/Graphic+card+Zotac+GTX...TI-52771570.htm


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You need to look at 2nd hand market just like this.

http://www.mudah.my/Graphic+card+Zotac+GTX...TI-52771570.htm
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allright, I think i can fork out for GTX 1050, which is bang of buck GPU right now. But can my PSU support it ?

PSU : Seasonic Silence PRo 750W
Processor : i5 6500
mobo : asus h110m-k
SSD X1, HDD 3.5 X3
Kingston value 4gb ram DDR4 x2
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allright, I think i can fork out for GTX 1050, which is bang of buck GPU right now. But can my PSU support it ?

PSU : Seasonic Silence PRo 750W
Processor : i5 6500
mobo : asus h110m-k
SSD X1, HDD  3.5 X3
Kingston value 4gb ram DDR4 x2
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500W is more than enough.
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Hi all, I wanted to build a budget gaming PC for below RM2000 if possible. Exclude monitor, mouse and speakers. My CPU in mind is pentium G4560 and the GPU is GTX 1050 TI OC. I understand that the GPU is taking up almost half the budget but does this make it more future proof?

Appreciate your suggestions and comparisons for this matter.

Thank you
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QUOTE(redapple90 @ Mar 4 2017, 06:46 PM)
Hi all, I wanted to build a budget gaming PC for below RM2000 if possible. Exclude monitor, mouse and speakers. My CPU in mind is pentium G4560 and the GPU is GTX 1050 TI OC. I understand that the GPU is taking up almost half the budget but does this make it more future proof?

Appreciate your suggestions and comparisons for this matter.

Thank you
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Nothing is future proof unless you stick to playing the same game because newer games will require more and more resources.

1. CPU - Intel G4560 (RM239)
2. MOBO - ASUS H110M-D (RM299)
3. RAM - DDR4-2133 8Gb (RM289)
4. HDD - 1TB (RM219)
5. Case - AVF with 450W PSU (RM159)
6. GPU - GTX1050ti (RM719)

Total - RM1924
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Thanks richard for your feedback. So its not necessary to get 1050 TI OC? just get the normal 1 will do right?

Btw should i get 120gb ssd instead of 1tb hdd?

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[Purpose] light gaming, office work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] GC hd 7750, monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2

Can someone help me to upgrade my pc..
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budget - 2 k

[Purpose] - a lil gaming like dota

item reuse - intel core i7 2600 / ram / monitor.

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Thanks richard for your feedback. So its not necessary to get 1050 TI OC? just get the normal 1 will do right?

Btw should i get 120gb ssd instead of 1tb hdd?
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OC is just an factory pre-overclocked version of GTX1050Ti, you can manually OC the normal edition if you want, this is to save money.

QUOTE(aztez @ Mar 5 2017, 02:21 PM)
Budget] 1200

[Purpose] light gaming, office work

[Hardwares that will be re-use]  GC hd 7750, monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2

Can someone help me to upgrade my pc..
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Get Intel Pentium G4560 + H110 + 8GB RAM, add in a 1TB HDD (if needed) or 120G/240G SSD (if you don't mind spending money for it).

PSU is also needed? If yes then entry level Corsair VS450 or FSP Hexa+ 450W is enough.

QUOTE(nicholastze85 @ Mar 5 2017, 02:21 PM)
budget - 2 k

[Purpose] - a lil gaming like dota

item reuse - intel core i7 2600 / ram / monitor.
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So mobo not going to re-use? It is hard to find LGA1155 socket mobo for your i7 2600 now sweat.gif


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motherboard seem got prob. sometime cant open window.
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motherboard seem got prob. sometime cant open window.
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Cannot open window? You mean the OS? If yes then you need to confirm the root cause of the issue first, sometimes the issue is from other components like a faulty HDD/SSD, RAM etc, there should be an error code shown on the screen for you to identify the root cause.

Your i7 2600 runs on a LGA1155 socket mobo, it is almost impossible to find a new mobo with this socket right now since it is long obsoleted, the best option would be finding an used unit in Garage Sales (or somewhere else).


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Have our local retailer updated their latest price tags on Intel's CPUs? I am thinking of building a rig when they do, if they do.

Budget around 4.5k, lower if possible.

For high performance gaming in 1080p.

Currently I have these CPU and GPU pairing in mind - i5 7600K and 1060 6GB.

On top of that, I need suggestions on:

-decent mobo for overclocking
-8GB low timings and decent clock speed RAM (I'm thinking at least 2400mhz)
-120GB SSD should be enough for OS and 50~60GB of games?

Also the rest including cooler, PSU, 1TB internal HDD, casing etc.

Edit : forgot to mention I value performance > appearance. meaning no need to fancy leds and stuff, low temp and good ventilation is what matters to me.

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[Budget] - rm2k

[Purpose] - gaming mostly dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - 19inch monitor

[Monitor resolution] - 19inch

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - dota 2

[Personal preferences] budget must include wifi card / wifi usb
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[Budget] - RM4k

[Purpose] - architecture software (Lumion Software) > https://lumion3d.com/system-requirements.html

anyone knows if the RM4k budget is enough to meet to recommended for this software.
a friend of mine is looking into this and i am helping.
any suggestion or help would be much appreciated.
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QUOTE(ckay- @ Mar 5 2017, 11:06 PM)
Have our local retailer updated their latest price tags on Intel's CPUs? I am thinking of building a rig when they do, if they do.

Budget around 4.5k, lower if possible.

For high performance gaming in 1080p.

Currently I have these CPU and GPU pairing in mind - i5 7600K and 1060 6GB.

On top of that, I need suggestions on:

-decent mobo for overclocking
-8GB low timings and decent clock speed RAM (I'm thinking at least 2400mhz)
-120GB SSD should be enough for OS and 50~60GB of games?

Also the rest including cooler, PSU, 1TB internal HDD, casing etc.

Edit : forgot to mention I value performance > appearance. meaning no need to fancy leds and stuff, low temp and good ventilation is what matters to me.
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No price drop yet in Malaysia.

QUOTE(r1nk @ Mar 6 2017, 01:54 AM)
[Budget] - rm2k

[Purpose] - gaming mostly dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - 19inch monitor

[Monitor resolution] - 19inch

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - dota 2

[Personal preferences] budget must include wifi card / wifi usb
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Intel Pentium G4560 - RM 244
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 579
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45

Total: RM 1889 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

* BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU on a mobo with older chipset (H110/B150/H170/Z170).
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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Mar 6 2017, 08:17 AM)
[Budget] - RM4k

[Purpose] - architecture software (Lumion Software) > https://lumion3d.com/system-requirements.html

anyone knows if the RM4k budget is enough to meet to recommended for this software.
a friend of mine is looking into this and i am helping.
any suggestion or help would be much appreciated.
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According to the system requirements posted by Lumion Software:

10k PassMark points for CPU: Min entry i7 4790
8k PassMark points for GPU: Min entry RX480/GTX970/GTX1060

If you follow all the recommended specs then it will be over your budget. Recommended specs includes an i7 processor (will use i7 7700 instead of i7 4790 because the latter is long obsoleted and replaced by the latest gen which is the former), 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX1060 6GB as GPU, 1TB HDD (SSD is not included), a 80+ Gold rated good quality PSU (not necessary need to follow this as this is just a recommendation from them after all but it is good to keep this) and a standard ATX casing with a mATX mobo (with 4 RAM slots for future RAM expansion).

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 4449 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

At last, monitor with 1080p resolution is not included too, FYI.
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hi greetings
i am looking for desktop system for gaming (RPG games)
please recommend me appropriate hardwares for my budget

[Budget] rm1500

[Purpose] RPG gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] no need

[Games & softwares that use frequently] RPG games

[Personal preferences] any that fits rm1500

[Location] sentul,kuala lumpur


Budget: rm1500
Processor : intel i3 if possible
CPU Coolers : intel stock
Motherboard :
RAM : any 4gb
HDD : any 500gb
SSD : -
Graphic Card : any capable
Power Supply : any capable
Casing : any case (micro tower if possible)
ODD : -
Keyboard Mouse : -
Extra Fans : any if necessary

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QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Mar 6 2017, 12:31 PM)
hi greetings
i am looking for desktop system for gaming (RPG games)
please recommend me appropriate hardwares for my budget

[Budget] rm1500

[Purpose] RPG gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] no need

[Games & softwares that use frequently] RPG games

[Personal preferences] any that fits rm1500

[Location] sentul,kuala lumpur
Budget: rm1500
Processor : intel i3 if possible
CPU Coolers : intel stock
Motherboard :
RAM : any 4gb
HDD : any 500gb
SSD : -
Graphic Card : any capable
Power Supply : any capable
Casing : any case (micro tower if possible)
ODD : -
Keyboard Mouse : -
Extra Fans : any if necessary

tqvm all notworthy.gif
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1. CPU - Intel G4560 (RM239)
2. MOBO - ASUS H110M-D (RM299)
3. RAM - DDR4-2133 4Gb (RM149)
4. HDD - 1TB (RM219)
5. Case - AVF with 450W PSU (RM159)
6. GPU - GTX1050 (RM579)

Total - RM1644
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 6 2017, 08:37 AM)
No price drop yet in Malaysia.
Intel Pentium G4560 - RM 244
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 579
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45

Total: RM 1889 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

* BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU on a mobo with older chipset (H110/B150/H170/Z170).
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Sorry forgot to ask.. Can u give me spec with i3 cpu? (budget still within rm2k +-)
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QUOTE(r1nk @ Mar 6 2017, 02:31 PM)
Sorry forgot to ask.. Can u give me spec with i3 cpu? (budget still within rm2k +-)
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G4560 is basically an i3 (still 2C4T) with slightly lower clock speed and weaker GPU (doesn't really matter since you are going to get a discrete GPU anyway), i3 costs twice the price of G4560.

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 479
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 579
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Armageddon Vulcan T1x - RM 79
TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB WiFi - RM 45

Total: RM 2084 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

* CPU is upgrade-able to Kaby Lake i3 7100 with minor top up.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 6 2017, 08:46 AM)
According to the system requirements posted by Lumion Software:

10k PassMark points for CPU: Min entry i7 4790
8k PassMark points for GPU: Min entry RX480/GTX970/GTX1060

If you follow all the recommended specs then it will be over your budget. Recommended specs includes an i7 processor (will use i7 7700 instead of i7 4790 because the latter is long obsoleted and replaced by the latest gen which is the former), 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX1060 6GB as GPU, 1TB HDD (SSD is not included), a 80+ Gold rated good quality PSU (not necessary need to follow this as this is just a recommendation from them after all but it is good to keep this) and a standard ATX casing with a mATX mobo (with 4 RAM slots for future RAM expansion).

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 4449 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

At last, monitor with 1080p resolution is not included too, FYI.
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I would suggest to get a SSD for his/her friend. I'm also studying architecture and using a rig without a SSD. Some of the files would take almost 2 hour to upload into the Lumion. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 6 2017, 08:46 AM)
According to the system requirements posted by Lumion Software:

10k PassMark points for CPU: Min entry i7 4790
8k PassMark points for GPU: Min entry RX480/GTX970/GTX1060

If you follow all the recommended specs then it will be over your budget. Recommended specs includes an i7 processor (will use i7 7700 instead of i7 4790 because the latter is long obsoleted and replaced by the latest gen which is the former), 16GB DDR4 RAM, GTX1060 6GB as GPU, 1TB HDD (SSD is not included), a 80+ Gold rated good quality PSU (not necessary need to follow this as this is just a recommendation from them after all but it is good to keep this) and a standard ATX casing with a mATX mobo (with 4 RAM slots for future RAM expansion).

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 4449 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

At last, monitor with 1080p resolution is not included too, FYI.
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Hey there, I thought of doing an upgrade to my PC. Here's the info for the suggestion:

[Budget] About RM 700? I rather do this as cheaply as possible.

[Purpose] For digital art and light gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU (230W), HDD (500 GB), Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1440 x 900

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MediBang

Current specs:

Intel Pentium E6600 3.06 GHz (2C2T)
1x 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Gigabyte G41MT-S2PT (LGA 775)
PowerLogic Magnum 230 (230W?)

Is this upgrade okay?

Intel Pentium G4560 3.5 GHz (2C4T)
1x 4 GB 2133 MHz DDR4
ASUS H110M-K or ASRock H110M-DGS
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Hey there, any suggestion on spec for mini itx rig?

[Budget] About RM 3000-3500

[Purpose] Gaming purpose (GTA V , BF 1, and mostly STEAM games)

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I want to buy a led monitor... IPS type. Dell brand. 22-23 inches widescreen... Can find out for me?
Main usage is to do photo editing. So the color should be correct.
Thank you smile.gif
Budget not so sure

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QUOTE(lylee73 @ Mar 6 2017, 10:29 PM)
Hey there, I thought of doing an upgrade to my PC. Here's the info for the suggestion:

[Budget] About RM 700? I rather do this as cheaply as possible.

[Purpose] For digital art and light gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU (230W), HDD (500 GB), Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1440 x 900

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MediBang

Current specs:

Intel Pentium E6600 3.06 GHz (2C2T)
1x 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Gigabyte G41MT-S2PT (LGA 775)
PowerLogic Magnum 230 (230W?)

Is this upgrade okay?

Intel Pentium G4560 3.5 GHz (2C4T)
1x 4 GB 2133 MHz DDR4
ASUS H110M-K or ASRock H110M-DGS
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Fit well for your budget.

QUOTE(Mnsyahir96 @ Mar 6 2017, 10:39 PM)
Hey there, any suggestion on spec for mini itx rig?

[Budget] About RM 3000-3500

[Purpose] Gaming purpose (GTA V , BF 1, and mostly STEAM games)
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Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 359
CM Elite 130 - RM 178

Total: RM 3377 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

Please take note that there is a new GTX1060 variant which comes with next gen & faster GDDR5 memory speed to 9Gbps (8Gbps previously), if you want the latest 9Gbps VRAM version then you will need to wait a bit longer.

You can add SSD if you top up your budget or downgrade the PSU or GPU to 3GB model.

QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:31 AM)
I want to buy a led monitor... IPS type. Dell brand. 22-23 inches widescreen... Can find out for me?
Main usage is to do photo editing. So the color should be correct.
Thank you smile.gif
Budget not so sure
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I would recommend Dell UltraSharp U2417H if you want 99% sRGB coverage and 72% NTSC coverage, excellent monitor for photo editing, price is around 1k.
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QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 7 2017, 05:31 AM)
I want to buy a led monitor... IPS type. Dell brand. 22-23 inches widescreen... Can find out for me?
Main usage is to do photo editing. So the color should be correct.
Thank you smile.gif
Budget not so sure
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 7 2017, 09:06 AM)
I would recommend Dell UltraSharp U2417H if you want 99% sRGB coverage and 72% NTSC coverage, excellent monitor for photo editing, price is around 1k.
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Dell Ultrasharp series is good choice for photo editing
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Alright guys, wanna build a PC for my bro. He using mostly for photo editing (Photoshop, Lightroom, illustrator) and sometimes playing games like Racing Simulator, but mostly for photo editing
Just for PC around RM5-6k
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Hi everyone!

[B][Budget] Rm3k + monitor

[Purpose] gaming, dota2, overwatch and maybe some steam games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] not sure

[Games & softwares that use frequently] gaming

[Personal preferences] intel i3/i5, matte screen monitor

Thanks!

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QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 7 2017, 03:58 PM)
Alright guys, wanna build a PC for my bro. He using mostly for photo editing (Photoshop, Lightroom, illustrator) and sometimes playing games like Racing Simulator, but mostly for photo editing
Just for PC around RM5-6k
Thanks smile.gif
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How about these?

Core i7-7700K - 1564
Coolermaster Hyper 212X - 189
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 508
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
Seagate 2TB HDD - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5983 total (C-Zone prices)

You might wanna wait for AMD parts to arrive if you are interested with Ryzen. 1700X will cost 1899 though.

QUOTE(skyzzable @ Mar 7 2017, 08:03 PM)
Hi everyone!

[B][Budget] Rm3k + monitor

[Purpose] gaming, dota2, overwatch and maybe some steam games

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] not sure

[Games & softwares that use frequently] gaming

[Personal preferences] intel i3, matte screen monitor

Thanks!
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How about these?

Core i3-7100 - 518
Asus H110M-K (BIOS update may be required) - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 254
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169
Asus VC239N 23" monitor - 530

RM2929 total (C-Zone prices)

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[Budget] - RM3k-5k

[Purpose] - light work for autocad and photoshop

including with a 27inch monitor

can anyone help me please?
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2017, 12:50 AM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700K - 1564
Coolermaster Hyper 212X - 189
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 508
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
Seagate 2TB HDD - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5983 total (C-Zone prices)

You might wanna wait for AMD parts to arrive if you are interested with Ryzen. 1700X will cost 1899 though.
How about these?

Core i3-7100 - 518
Asus H110M-K (BIOS update may be required) - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 254
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169
Asus VC239N 23" monitor - 530

RM2929 total (C-Zone prices)
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Is 1 8gb better than 2 4gb?

And im planning to get 1 SSD and 1 HDD. What is your recommendation for SSD, probably 1 with 120gb.

Thanks!
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QUOTE(junya @ Mar 8 2017, 02:32 PM)
[Budget] - RM3k-5k

[Purpose] - light work for autocad and photoshop

including with a 27inch monitor

can anyone help me please?
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Due to wide budget range, specs difference between a 3k rig and a 5k rig is very significant.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 579
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 375
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 359
Tecware Edge - RM 149
Dell P2717H - RM 996

Total: RM 5070 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

If photo editing is the main priority, then switching the monitor to the one with 99% sRGB and wide color gamut support like Dell UltraSharp series will greatly improve the experience.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2017, 12:50 AM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700K - 1564
Coolermaster Hyper 212X - 189
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 508
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
Seagate 2TB HDD - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5983 total (C-Zone prices)

You might wanna wait for AMD parts to arrive if you are interested with Ryzen. 1700X will cost 1899 though.
Thats 16gb ram right ? Or just 8gb ?
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QUOTE(skyzzable @ Mar 8 2017, 05:26 PM)
Is 1 8gb better than 2 4gb?

And im planning to get 1 SSD and 1 HDD. What is your recommendation for SSD, probably 1 with 120gb.

Thanks!
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Technically, 2 x 4GB is slightly faster than 1 x 8GB due to dual channel mode but it is very hard to notice the difference in real life usage.

The mobo chosen comes with 2 RAM slots only so it is better to get 1 x 8GB so you can upgrade to 16GB (more or less) in the future easily.

QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 8 2017, 06:47 PM)
Thats 16gb ram right ? Or just 8gb ?
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2 x 8GB, the total price of the RAM indicates it.
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QUOTE(skyzzable @ Mar 8 2017, 05:26 PM)
Is 1 8gb better than 2 4gb?

And im planning to get 1 SSD and 1 HDD. What is your recommendation for SSD, probably 1 with 120gb.

Thanks!
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8GB x1 is better for your motherboard. You won't see a difference on real world performance.

Samsung or Transcend for current prices.

QUOTE(HayateAyakasi8 @ Mar 8 2017, 06:47 PM)
Thats 16gb ram right ? Or just 8gb ?
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16GB.

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Hey sifus, I think my mobo just died on me, I can't seem to boot into Windows, I just get to the BIOS splash screen and I can't even press f2 or f10 to enter BIOS. I tried reseating the ram, removing and replacing the mobo battery, and still can't seem to enter BIOS

If it is my mobo that's dead, I was wondering whether I can get a decent setup to replace my system. Currently, my rig is

Processor: i5 2500
Mobo: Intel 1155 socket (I'm guessing it's dead )
Ram: 2 x 4gb 1133
Gfx: gtx570
PSU: seasonic X660 (660W gold)
HDD: 1tb + 500gb

Wondering what I could salvage and what could I get with a budget of rm2000. My usage is mainly Photoshop and some gaming

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QUOTE(lost123 @ Mar 9 2017, 01:15 PM)
Hey sifus, I think my mobo just died on me, I can't seem to boot into Windows, I just get to the BIOS splash screen and I can't even press f2 or f10 to enter BIOS. I tried reseating the ram, removing and replacing the mobo battery, and still can't seem to enter BIOS

If it is my mobo that's dead, I was wondering whether I can get a decent setup to replace my system. Currently, my rig is

Processor: i5 2500
Mobo: Intel 1155 socket (I'm guessing it's dead )
Ram: 2 x 4gb 1133
Gfx: gtx570
PSU: seasonic 620w gold
HDD: 1tb + 500gb

Wondering what I could salvage and what could I get with a budget of rm2000. My usage is mainly Photoshop and some gaming
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Do you install any new hardware/components recently? If yes, try to remove it first.

If don't have, then remove all the connected hardware like GPU, HDD/SSD, leave CPU and RAM installed, then try to boot again.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 9 2017, 01:54 PM)
Do you install any new hardware/components recently? If yes, try to remove it first.

If don't have, then remove all the connected hardware like GPU, HDD/SSD, leave CPU and RAM installed, then try to boot again.
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Nope didnt install anything new. It happened after the thunderstorm yesterday. It was on when i left my house, and when i got back, I saw that it was stuck on the BIOS screen (im guessing the thunderstorm killed something, and im praying its not the HDD). I will try removing everything thing tmrw when I get back.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 8 2017, 07:27 PM)
8GB x1 is better for your motherboard. You won't see a difference on real world performance.

Samsung or Transcend for current prices.
16GB.
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For SSD, any good with Kingston and Western Digital?

Is it possible to build one rig with i5 within rm3k? It doesn't matter if reaching rm3.5k (with monitor).

Thanks!
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QUOTE(skyzzable @ Mar 9 2017, 07:21 PM)
For SSD, any good with Kingston and Western Digital?

Is it possible to build one rig with i5 within rm3k? It doesn't matter if reaching rm3.5k (with monitor).

Thanks!
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Kingston is turtle and WD isn't as good as you think.

Just change the CPU to i5-7500. Should be around additional RM400.

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Hi, need a suggestion for a workstation.

Budget : 4k
Software : Sketchup, Vray, Photoshop, Lumion 6
Hardware that'll be reused : None, build from scratch
Preferences : Please prioritize the rig over the monitor (1080p preferably)

TQVM



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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 9 2017, 11:17 PM)
Hi, need a suggestion for a workstation.

Budget : 4k
Software : Sketchup, Vray, Photoshop, Lumion 6
Hardware that'll be reused : None, build from scratch
Preferences : Please prioritize the rig over the monitor (1080p preferably)

TQVM
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1378
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 508
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Additional 12cm fan - 25
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169
LG 22MP48HQ 21.5" monitor - 408

RM3996 total (C-Zone prices)

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 10 2017, 12:10 AM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1378
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 508
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Additional 12cm fan - 25
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169
LG 22MP48HQ 21.5" monitor - 408

RM3996 total (C-Zone prices)
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Hi, Looking for super compact desktop just for CSGO. Budget less than rm3000. Eyeing for Intel skull Canyon for its super compact. (Intel® Core™ i7-6770HQ-2.6GHz | Intel® Wireless AC 8260 | Intel® Iris Graphics 580). Is the integrated graphics sufficient to run smoothly?
I've heard about compact Asus ROG desktop but seems way over my budget.
Appreciate if someone could advise me or any other recommendations.
Many thanks

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 9 2017, 09:54 PM)
Kingston is turtle and WD isn't as good as you think.

Just change the CPU to i5-7500. Should be around additional RM400.
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help to suggest SSD M.2
looking for one for my desktop.
thanks.
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QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Mar 10 2017, 09:35 AM)
help to suggest SSD M.2
looking for one for my desktop.
thanks.
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No budget? Samsung 900 series
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Please recommend a budget gaming rig to play Doom 2016.

Just the system; no need for monitor, keyboard or mouse.

Budget is RM2,500. Looking for best value, so please let me know if I need to adjust budget upwards, and by how much. The most I can stretch it is another RM500.

Not concerned with storage, so I prefer a fast SSD.

Thanks!

As a reference, the minimum specs for Doom are:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400/AMD FX-8320
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 670 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB
RAM: 8 GB
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QUOTE(barjoyai @ Mar 10 2017, 09:24 AM)
Hi, Looking for super compact desktop just for CSGO. Budget less than rm3000. Eyeing for Intel skull Canyon for its super compact. (Intel® Core™ i7-6770HQ-2.6GHz | Intel® Wireless AC 8260 | Intel® Iris Graphics 580). Is the integrated graphics sufficient to run smoothly?
I've heard about compact Asus ROG desktop but seems way over my budget.
Appreciate if someone could advise me or any other recommendations.
Many thanks
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What's the maximum size of the rig that you can accept? Intel Skull Canyon is quite pricey and you can get a much better build if you go for custom rig path.

QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Mar 10 2017, 09:35 AM)
help to suggest SSD M.2
looking for one for my desktop.
thanks.
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There are 2 mainstream SSD in M.2 form factor, SATA and PCIe NVMe, SATA M.2 SSD is somewhat similar to 2.5" SATA based SSD but at a much smaller foot print, while PCIe NVMe uses next gen BUS and is significant faster than SATA based SSD.

Please make sure your mobo supports PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD first before you make the purchase.
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QUOTE(kwackers @ Mar 10 2017, 09:58 AM)
Please recommend a budget gaming rig to play Doom 2016.

Just the system; no need for monitor, keyboard or mouse.

Budget is RM2,500.  Looking for best value, so please let me know if I need to adjust budget upwards, and by how much.  The most I can stretch it is another RM500. 

Not concerned with storage, so I prefer a fast SSD.

Thanks!

As a reference, the minimum specs for Doom are:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400/AMD FX-8320
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 670 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB
RAM: 8 GB
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Doom 2016 is one of the most optimized PC games in recent years, pick an AMD card and run the games with Vulkan API, you can easily get > 60 FPS in max settings (1080p).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Sapphire RX470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 998
WD Blue 250GB SSD - RM 413
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 3093 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

To keep below 3k, you can:
1. Downgrade the SSD to other lower end model with either similar capacity or smaller capacity
2. RX470 4GB to RX460 2GB (-40% in performance)
3. Kaby Lake i5 to Skylake i5 6402P (~almost no difference in terms of performance)
4. Further downgrade to i3 7100 (i3 7100 is on par with i5 2400)

BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU on a mobo with older chipset (H110/B150/H170/Z170).
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Hi,, i've adjusted again my budget. This time the cash is ready..

I'll try fork out few hundred but for now my max budget rm3k.

Can suggest spec max 3k budget?? Dont need monitor.
My monitor is acer s220hql.

Purpose: game.. All game like dota, cs,.dark sider, watch dogs etc. Only tomb raider title i would like to play in high with nice fps. Other game i can go even medcto low sett.

What i have in my mind is

I3 vs i5
Rx480 vs gtx1060
Fractal design mini C or any casing that easy to carry for a girl

Btw,, im thinking to buy from idealtech for now.

Thanks in advance guys for u suggestion.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 10:20 AM)
Doom 2016 is one of the most optimized PC games in recent years, pick an AMD card and run the games with Vulkan API, you can easily get > 60 FPS in max settings (1080p).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Sapphire RX470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ - RM 998
WD Blue 250GB SSD - RM 413
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 3093 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

To keep below 3k, you can:
1. Downgrade the SSD to other lower end model with either similar capacity or smaller capacity
2. RX470 4GB to RX460 2GB (-40% in performance)
3. Kaby Lake i5 to Skylake i5 6402P (~almost no difference in terms of performance)
4. Further downgrade to i3 7100 (i3 7100 is on par with i5 2400)

BIOS update is required to run Kaby Lake CPU on a mobo with older chipset (H110/B150/H170/Z170).
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Thanks terence.

Is there any benefit to using the Intel i5 over an AMD CPU? Just curious, since at the same price point, I can opt for an AMD FX 8350 or an FX 8370.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 10 2017, 09:40 AM)
No budget? Samsung 900 series
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 10:01 AM)
What's the maximum size of the rig that you can accept? Intel Skull Canyon is quite pricey and you can get a much better build if you go for custom rig path.
There are 2 mainstream SSD in M.2 form factor, SATA and PCIe NVMe, SATA M.2 SSD is somewhat similar to 2.5" SATA based SSD but at a much smaller foot print, while PCIe NVMe uses next gen BUS and is significant faster than SATA based SSD.

Please make sure your mobo supports PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD first before you make the purchase.
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Hi,
Noted.

my Mobo is GA-H170N-WIFI, it says in the overview:
PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 Connector with up to 32Gb/s Data Transfer (PCIe NVMe & SATA SSD support)
but in the spec tab:
1 x M.2 Socket 3 connector on the back of the motherboard (Socket 3, M key, type 2260/2280 SATA & PCIe x4/x2/x1 SSD support).

meaning my mobo supports PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD right?
thanks.
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 10 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi,, i've adjusted again my budget. This time the cash is ready..

I'll try fork out few hundred but for now my max budget rm3k.

Can suggest spec max 3k budget?? Dont need monitor.
My monitor is acer s220hql.

Purpose: game..  All game like dota, cs,.dark sider, watch dogs etc. Only tomb raider title i would like to play in high with nice fps. Other game i can go even medcto low sett.

What i have in my mind is

I3 vs i5
Rx480 vs gtx1060
Fractal design mini C or any casing that easy to carry for a girl

Btw,, im thinking to buy from idealtech for now.

Thanks in advance guys for u suggestion.
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Dota 2, CS:GO (and other heavy single core application or single threaded application) runs faster on a CPU with higher core clock speed, i.e. i3 7100's 3.9GHz will beat i5 7400's 3.5GHz in those games, but when it comes with multicore or multithreaded application, i5 7400 will lead once again.

Rise of the Tomb Raider favors Nvidia GPU, even in DX12 mode, with the recent driver update (378.78), performance is boosted even more for this games in DX12 mode (they claim to have 20%+ for 10 series GPU).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 835
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 380
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 989 <Cheapest GTX1060 3GB is 1.2k at Idealtech so I will have to use RX470 to replace it> sweat.gif
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 219
Shark Zone C10 - RM 199

Total: RM 3130 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Another build with GTX1060 3GB from ETECH:

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 2953 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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What's the maximum size of the rig that you can accept? Intel Skull Canyon is quite pricey and you can get a much better build if you go for custom rig path.
I'm actually looking for one that can be put into a normal bag pack 😅
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QUOTE(kwackers @ Mar 10 2017, 11:09 AM)
Thanks terence.

Is there any benefit to using the Intel i5 over an AMD CPU?  Just curious, since at the same price point, I can opt for an AMD FX 8350 or an FX 8370.
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Intel CPU dominates in terms of single threaded performance and comes with much higher IPC (Instruction per cycle) than AMD FX CPU.

Even an Core i3 is able to perform the same as the highest end FX9590 in Doom 2016, check out the benchmark here.

If you prefer AMD, wait for their upcoming Ryzen 5 or 3, those are worth to wait (and invest if performance is good).

QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Mar 10 2017, 11:18 AM)
Hi,
Noted.

my Mobo is GA-H170N-WIFI, it says in the overview:
PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 Connector with up to 32Gb/s Data Transfer (PCIe NVMe & SATA SSD support)
but in the spec tab:
1 x M.2 Socket 3 connector on the back of the motherboard (Socket 3, M key, type 2260/2280 SATA & PCIe x4/x2/x1 SSD support).

meaning my mobo supports PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD right?
thanks.
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Yup nod.gif

For RM 500 budget, the best that you can get is Intel 600P 256GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD, not the fastest out there but is one of the best entry level PCIe NVMe SSD's that you can buy now. Samsung 850 EVO is a better choice if read speed isn't too important (especially large chunk of files) to you as it is faster in terms 4kB random read/write (most of the real case scenario).

QUOTE(barjoyai @ Mar 10 2017, 11:30 AM)
I'm actually looking for one that can be put into a normal bag pack
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Do you accept this size?

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QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Mar 10 2017, 11:14 AM)
sorry budget max RM500.
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Transcend MTS800 240GB at RM479 from Viewnet. Kindly take note most M.2 SSDs runs very hot.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 11:20 AM)
Dota 2, CS:GO (and other heavy single core application or single threaded application) runs faster on a CPU with higher core clock speed, i.e. i3 7100's 3.9GHz will beat i5 7400's 3.5GHz in those games, but when it comes with multicore or multithreaded application, i5 7400 will lead once again.

Rise of the Tomb Raider favors Nvidia GPU, even in DX12 mode, with the recent driver update (378.78), performance is boosted even more for this games in DX12 mode (they claim to have 20%+ for 10 series GPU).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 835
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 380
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 989 <Cheapest GTX1060 3GB is 1.2k at Idealtech so I will have to use RX470 to replace it>  sweat.gif
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 219
Shark Zone C10 - RM 199

Total: RM 3130 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Another build with GTX1060 3GB from ETECH:

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 2953 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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So its true that tomb raider favor nvdia.. Hmm..

Need your opinion since u have knowledge.
Which between these two card amd and nvidia last longer in term of performance for more than 5 years. I dont want to get a nice gpu but in the need to upgrade in the next 2,3 years.
I'll tolerate the setting btw since all games upgrade they feature every year.. Haha

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 10 2017, 11:40 AM)
Transcend MTS800 240GB at RM479 from Viewnet. Kindly take note most M.2 SSDs runs very hot.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 11:40 AM)
Intel CPU dominates in terms of single threaded performance and comes with much higher IPC (Instruction per cycle) than AMD FX CPU.

Even an Core i3 is able to perform the same as the highest end FX9590 in Doom 2016, check out the benchmark here.

If you prefer AMD, wait for their upcoming Ryzen 5 or 3, those are worth to wait (and invest if performance is good).
Yup  nod.gif

For RM 500 budget, the best that you can get is Intel 600P 256GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD, not the fastest out there but is one of the best entry level PCIe NVMe SSD's that you can buy now. Samsung 850 EVO is a better choice if read speed isn't too important (especially large chunk of files) to you as it is faster in terms 4kB random read/write (most of the real case scenario).
Do you accept this size?

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[B][Budget] below 8k including monitor

[Purpose] entertainment mostly gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] peripheral

[Monitor resolution] either dual or curve

[Games & softwares that use frequently] game able to run ultra with high fps in 1440p

[Personal preferences] a must gtx1070, I5 7600k oc

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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 10 2017, 12:37 PM)
So its true that tomb raider favor nvdia.. Hmm..

Need your opinion since u have knowledge.
Which between these two card amd and nvidia last longer in term of performance for more than 5 years. I dont want to get a nice gpu but in the need to upgrade in the next 2,3 years.
I'll tolerate the setting btw since all games upgrade they feature every year.. Haha
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It is hard to predict what is going to happen in the PC gaming industry in 5 years time, if DX12 and Vulkan are able to take over DX11/OpenCL as the main graphics API successfully in 5 years time then according to the current card performance, AMD will take the lead again, their Polaris GPUs are showing better performance than Nvidia's similar offering at the moment in few DX12/Vulkan titles.

If you want something more stable (in terms of current games support and frame rates) then Nvidia is more preferred as they are having a very solid DX11 driver support base now.

Both brands are equally good actually tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 02:38 PM)
It is hard to predict what is going to happen in the PC gaming industry in 5 years time, if DX12 and Vulkan are able to take over DX11/OpenCL as the main graphics API successfully in 5 years time then according to the current card performance, AMD will take the lead again, their Polaris GPUs are showing better performance than Nvidia's similar offering at the moment in few DX12/Vulkan titles.

If you want something more stable (in terms of current games support and frame rates) then Nvidia is more preferred as they are having a very solid DX11 driver support base now.

Both brands are equally good actually  tongue.gif
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Yeah... B4 im already opt for gtx1060 but then read after reading like future proofing, dx11 vs dx12, driver support, hotter/cooler, it really gives me harder times to decide. Since i dont want to keep changing my gpu. Anyway,

I'll take ur opinion into consideration. Thanks so much btw smile.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 11:40 AM)

Do you accept this size?

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QUOTE(Haroolovestar @ Mar 10 2017, 02:29 PM)
Need help urgently

[B][Budget] below 8k including monitor

[Purpose] entertainment mostly gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] peripheral

[Monitor resolution] either dual or curve

[Games & softwares that use frequently] game able to run ultra with high fps in 1440p

[Personal preferences] a must gtx1070, I5 7600k oc

[Location] KL
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1440p monitor is not cheap, the cheapest one will cost you 1.2k, ViewSonic VX3209 and that's an entry level IPS monitor, if you are looking for fast response time and high refresh rate monitor, then you gonna pay more for a TN panel like Dell S2417DG GSYNC. Please take note that there is an pixel inversion issue in some early batches of this monitor, check properly before you make the final purchase.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
ASRock FATAL1TY H270 PERFORMANCE - RM 589
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2168
WD Blue 250GB SSD - RM 413
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 429
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
Dell S2417DG GSYNC - RM 2029

Total: RM 8040 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(barjoyai @ Mar 10 2017, 07:55 PM)
looks like cant fit into a bagpack  sweat.gif
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Oh too bad then, it is quite small actually, should be able to put in normal school bag.
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RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

hello guys, im using this spec around 3 years. the problem now my graphic is not working. I bring my gpu to technician and he said that my card damage due to low voltage. Before this, my pc having trouble such as no display, but after switch on and off and adjusting vga cable, its working again. Can i repair my gpu, or i need to change my psu if i want to buy new gpu? My pc is working fine if i connect my vga cable to mobo.

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Proc - i3-4130
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX dual
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w
HDD - 500 g WD
RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

hello guys, im using this spec around 3 years. the problem now my graphic is not working. I bring my gpu to technician and he said that my card damage due to low voltage. Before this, my pc having trouble such as no display, but after switch on and off and adjusting vga cable, its working again. Can i repair my gpu, or i need to change my psu if i want to buy new gpu? My pc is working fine if i connect my vga cable to mobo.
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Depends on which model you are going to get, the PSU itself is fine to support low and mid end card, even Pascal GTX1060 can be powered on with that PSU.
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Proc - i3-4130
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX dual
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w
HDD - 500 g WD
RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

hello guys, im using this spec around 3 years. the problem now my graphic is not working. I bring my gpu to technician and he said that my card damage due to low voltage. Before this, my pc having trouble such as no display, but after switch on and off and adjusting vga cable, its working again. Can i repair my gpu, or i need to change my psu if i want to buy new gpu? My pc is working fine if i connect my vga cable to mobo.
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i have almost same problem like you. my gtx 1060 no display after few minutes playing games. tested with gtx 1050ti,no problem. RMA the 1060, got new one,problem still happen. so,decided to change the psu,its fine. using evga 600b before change to 700b ( same price given by shop biggrin.gif )

so, that my 600b psu is a bit faulty. it cant support gtx 1060 while in game.
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QUOTE(Lynox @ Mar 11 2017, 09:10 AM)
i have almost same problem like you. my gtx 1060 no display after few minutes playing games. tested with gtx 1050ti,no problem. RMA the 1060, got new one,problem still happen. so,decided to change the psu,its fine. using evga 600b before change to 700b ( same price given by shop  biggrin.gif )

so, that my 600b psu is a bit faulty. it cant support gtx 1060 while in game.
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How long u owned that psu?
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Proc - i3-4130
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS
GPU - Palit GTX 750 StormX dual
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w
HDD - 500 g WD
RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

hello guys, im using this spec around 3 years. the problem now my graphic is not working. I bring my gpu to technician and he said that my card damage due to low voltage. Before this, my pc having trouble such as no display, but after switch on and off and adjusting vga cable, its working again. Can i repair my gpu, or i need to change my psu if i want to buy new gpu? My pc is working fine if i connect my vga cable to mobo.
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how to know my psu is good for new gpu and how to check its condition?
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Hi guys. I have a budget around RM2000 to build a brand new PC. What I'm using now is Pentium G3220, 4GB or RAM. I will use my new PC only for playing games using Bluestacks. I play on my current PC but not very smooth.

So I hope you can give me list just for cpu, ram, ssd, gpu if possible, and others. Don't need a monitor or mouse/keyboard. I already have the extra.
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Hey guys,


I've been given this quote for my rendering rig that I'll be using for work

Any things I should opt in or out, need opinions and feedback? Price sits just right at around my given budget.


AMD Ryzen ™ 7 1700 + Wraith Spire 95W Cooler GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3
CORSAIR Vengeance® LPX 8GB DDR4 2666MHz DRAM x2
Fractal Design Integra M Bronze Modular 550W Power Supply
TOSHIBA 1TB HDD 7200RPM
APACER PANTHER/OCZ TR SERIES 120GB SSD
GIGABYTE GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G # 1430MHz | 4G/D5

Thanks!
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Mar 12 2017, 03:41 PM)
Hi guys. I have a budget around RM2000 to build a brand new PC. What I'm using now is Pentium G3220, 4GB or RAM. I will use my new PC only for playing games using Bluestacks. I play on my current PC but not very smooth.

So I hope you can give me list just for cpu, ram, ssd, gpu if possible, and others. Don't need a monitor or mouse/keyboard. I already have the extra.
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Try looking for second hand i5 or i7 Haswell (LGA 1150), another 4GB RAM, GTX 1050 and Samsung 850 Evo for the SSD. All of that should fit your 2k budget.

QUOTE(Apple_DarreN @ Mar 12 2017, 03:43 PM)
Hey guys,
I've been given this quote for my rendering rig that I'll be using for work

Any things I should opt in or out, need opinions and feedback? Price sits just right at around my given budget.
AMD Ryzen ™ 7 1700 + Wraith Spire 95W Cooler GIGABYTE GA-AB350-GAMING 3
CORSAIR Vengeance® LPX 8GB DDR4 2666MHz DRAM x2
Fractal Design Integra M Bronze Modular 550W Power Supply
TOSHIBA 1TB HDD 7200RPM
APACER PANTHER/OCZ TR SERIES 120GB SSD
GIGABYTE GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti D5 4G # 1430MHz | 4G/D5

Thanks!
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That looks good. Go for it.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 12 2017, 03:50 PM)
Try looking for second hand i5 or i7 Haswell (LGA 1150), another 4GB RAM, GTX 1050 and Samsung 850 Evo for the SSD. All of that should fit your 2k budget.
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What I meant by "new" is I want to build a whole new PC. So I will have 2 PCs after this. My current with Pentium and my new 2K PC. I want new cpu, gpu, and others. I hope you can help me smile.gif
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Mar 12 2017, 03:55 PM)
What I meant by "new" is I want to build a whole new PC. So I will have 2 PCs after this. My current with Pentium and my new 2K PC. I want new cpu, gpu, and others. I hope you can help me smile.gif
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I see. Just trying to save you money using existing motherboard. Tight budget for a good setup on new PC.

How about these?

Pentium G4560 (like i3. 2C 4T) - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 254
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB - 286
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124

RM1975 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 12 2017, 04:03 PM)
I see. Just trying to save you money using existing motherboard. Tight budget for a good setup on new PC.

How about these?

Pentium G4560 (like i3. 2C 4T)  - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 254
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB - 286
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124

RM1975 total (C-Zone prices)
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This PC I want to use mainly for gaming on Bluestacks, so I'm not really sure which is to focus more, cpu or on gpu side.
How about an i5 with lesser gpu? Because it is Bluestacks.. And again, I am not really sure.
I think 8gb of ram is good for the setup. I can stretch a bit the budget if necessary, I can save more. I have the exact 2k now, so..
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Mar 12 2017, 04:12 PM)
This PC I want to use mainly for gaming on Bluestacks, so I'm not really sure which is to focus more, cpu or on gpu side.
How about an i5 with lesser gpu? Because it is Bluestacks.. And again, I am not really sure.
I think 8gb of ram is good for the setup. I can stretch a bit the budget if necessary, I can save more. I have the exact 2k now, so..
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I see. You can remove graphic card and swap the CPU to i5-7500 at RM896. Total 2023.

System requirement of Bluestacks did not mention anything about CPU or GPU.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 12 2017, 04:16 PM)
I see. You can remove graphic card and swap the CPU to i5-7500 at RM896. Total 2023.

System requirement of Bluestacks did not mention anything about CPU or GPU.
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Thank you. Many said Bluestacks is using more of CPU and RAM, and a little bit of GPU power.
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QUOTE(toomanyrulez @ Mar 12 2017, 04:22 PM)
Thank you. Many said Bluestacks is using more of CPU and RAM, and a little bit of GPU power.
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Then it should work. Built-in GPU of i5-7500 is more powerful than phone GPUs.
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Hye Guys, this is my pc spec right now :-

Proc : Intel Core i5 CPU 760@2.80Ghz 2.79Ghz
Socket 1156 LGA
Mainboard : Gigabyte H55m-S2
Ram : DDR3 10 GB ( 8GB+2GB)
Storage : 750 GB
PSU : Cooler Master 650w 80+
GPU : Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS
Monitor : Samsung SyncMaster B2230

I cant play my current game Street Fighter V after my gfx burn and now use temporrary gfx.

What gfx should i buy for make me able to play my Street Fighter V, Dota2 and maybe Tekken7 or latest game soon in high setting ? Pls Advice my budget around RM800 or less. And is it my spec too old and cant play new game soon and need to upgrade ?

PLS ADVICE =,="
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QUOTE(Ji3MOON @ Mar 12 2017, 04:53 PM)
Hye Guys, this is my pc spec right now :-

Proc : Intel Core i5 CPU 760@2.80Ghz 2.79Ghz
          Socket 1156 LGA
Mainboard : Gigabyte H55m-S2
Ram : DDR3 10 GB ( 8GB+2GB)
Storage : 750 GB
PSU : Cooler Master 650w 80+
GPU : Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS
Monitor : Samsung SyncMaster B2230

I cant play my current game Street Fighter V after my gfx burn and now use temporrary gfx.

What gfx should i buy for make me able to play my Street Fighter V, Dota2 and maybe Tekken7 or latest game soon in high setting ? Pls Advice my budget around RM800 or less. And is it my spec too old and cant play new game soon and need to upgrade ?

PLS ADVICE =,="
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You can get GTX 1050 Ti with your budget.

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php...844&game=Street Fighter V
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 12 2017, 05:09 PM)
You can get GTX 1050 Ti with your budget.

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php...844&game=Street Fighter V
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Ok thanks bro.. if i wanna make new PC for playing latest game coming soon, video editing and adobe photoshop and lightroom with budget RM5K can u suggest include new monitor.
item to be reused speaker mouse and keyboard only. I feel my pc sudah OLD liao liao sweat.gif time to change.
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QUOTE(Ji3MOON @ Mar 12 2017, 05:20 PM)
Ok thanks bro.. if i wanna make new PC for playing latest game coming soon, video editing and adobe photoshop and lightroom with budget RM5K can u suggest include new monitor.
item to be reused speaker mouse and keyboard only. I feel my pc sudah OLD liao liao  sweat.gif time to change.
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CPU - i5 7500 RM899
MOBO - Gigabyte GA H270M RM519
RAM - 2x4GB DDR4 2400Mhz RM299
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 250GB RM509
HDD - 1TB 7200rpm RM219
Case - Fractal Design Define C Window RM399
PSU - SuperFlower Leadex Silver 650W RM399
GPU - Gigabyte GTX1050ti RM715
Monitor - Dell U2417H RM1029

Total before "rebate" from Idealtech - RM4987
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QUOTE(Ji3MOON @ Mar 12 2017, 05:20 PM)
Ok thanks bro.. if i wanna make new PC for playing latest game coming soon, video editing and adobe photoshop and lightroom with budget RM5K can u suggest include new monitor.
item to be reused speaker mouse and keyboard only. I feel my pc sudah OLD liao liao  sweat.gif time to change.
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1378
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Super Flower Leadex Silver 550W - 359
Additional 12cm fan - 25
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169
Asus VC239H 23" monitor - 610

RM5022 total (C-Zone prices)
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1440p monitor is not cheap, the cheapest one will cost you 1.2k, ViewSonic VX3209 and that's an entry level IPS monitor, if you are looking for fast response time and high refresh rate monitor, then you gonna pay more for a TN panel like Dell S2417DG GSYNC. Please take note that there is an pixel inversion issue in some early batches of this monitor, check properly before you make the final purchase.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
ASRock FATAL1TY H270 PERFORMANCE - RM 589
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2168
WD Blue 250GB SSD - RM 413
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 429
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
Dell S2417DG GSYNC - RM 2029

Total: RM 8040 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
Planning to get a similar setup to this. I noticed you are using U2417H monitors. Whats your opinion on U2417H vs 144Hz TN panel?

I have been using IPS monitors my entire life and my use case would be gaming (Battlefield 1, Dota 2), and photo editing (Lightroom).

Is GTX1070 going to be overkill for 1080p 60Hz monitor?
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hi sifus,im planning to buy a new pc,since my old pc is slow down ( AROUND 10 YEAR doh.gif )

[Budget] RM 5500

[Purpose] GAMING,MOVIE

[Hardwares that will be re-use] KEYBOARD AND MOUSE ONLY

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MMORG , DOTA2,(my budget possible run GTA5? )

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Thanks you for your help bro richard912 & TristanX biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ThE-1cY @ Mar 13 2017, 06:21 PM)
Planning to get a similar setup to this. I noticed you are using U2417H monitors. Whats your opinion on U2417H vs 144Hz TN panel?

I have been using IPS monitors my entire life and my use case would be gaming (Battlefield 1, Dota 2), and photo editing (Lightroom).

Is GTX1070 going to be overkill for 1080p 60Hz monitor?
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My preference will always be IPS > high refresh rate TN.

I rarely play fast pace games like Overwatch, BF1, CS:GO etc so 144Hz isn't important to me, IPS 144Hz do exist, but they are expensive (3k+). Since you do photo editing, it is better to get a good color gamut IPS monitor (those with 99% sRGB and wide color gamut support), the color of TN panel is not as accurate as IPS and the viewing angle sucks sweat.gif

There is a phrase "once you go for 144Hz, you can never go back", if you haven't tried out 144Hz display yet then you are probably still "safe", but high refresh rate really helps a lot in fast pace games.

I wouldn't say it is overkill to run GTX1070 on a 1080p 60Hz monitor, it depends on how you use it and extract the most out of it, don't forget you can always use DSR to get a sharper graphics output and you are likely to have a more stable frame rate when running the latest titles on the highest settings.

QUOTE(Quan920907 @ Mar 13 2017, 06:37 PM)
hi sifus,im planning to buy a new pc,since my old pc is slow down ( AROUND 10 YEAR doh.gif  )

[Budget] RM 5500

[Purpose] GAMING,MOVIE

[Hardwares that will be re-use] KEYBOARD AND MOUSE ONLY

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MMORG , DOTA2,(my budget possible run GTA5? )

[Personal preferences]

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 519
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 275
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 AMP! SE - RM 1348
WD Blue 250GB SSD - RM 413
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 429
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
Dell S2316H IPS - RM 665

Total: RM 5511 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

There are many possible builds for your budget and yes your budget is more than enough to run GTA V.

Other possible builds:
1. i5 and bump the monitor to 144Hz panel
2. 16GB RAM
3. Other casing model (mobo/SSD/PSU as well)

etc.
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[Budget] - rm 2-2.5k...

[Purpose] - gaming mostly on dota 2, software like Autocad etc...(GTA v if possible)

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QUOTE(GenesisReborn @ Mar 13 2017, 11:16 PM)
[Budget] - rm 2-2.5k...

[Purpose] - gaming mostly on dota 2, software like Autocad etc...(GTA v if possible)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - dota 2, autocad etc
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GTA V still gonna lag with that budget. Quad core is minimum.

How about these?

Core i5-7400  - 816
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124

RM2474 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 13 2017, 11:29 PM)
GTA V still gonna lag with that budget. Quad core is minimum.

How about these?

Core i5-7400  - 816
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124

RM2474 total (C-Zone prices)
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What if i increase my budget to max rm3k?...sorry for silly question... bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(GenesisReborn @ Mar 13 2017, 11:35 PM)
What if i increase my budget to max rm3k?...sorry for silly question...  bangwall.gif
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Upgraded graphic card.

Core i5-7400  - 816
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB DDR5 - 1089
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169

RM3009 total (C-Zone prices)
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Upgraded graphic card.

Core i5-7400  - 816
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB DDR5 - 1089
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Thermaltake Versa (pick your model) case - 169

RM3009 total (C-Zone prices)
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Thanks for the suggestion...maybe will get it in this month...Thanks!!
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what different between 60hz and 144hz monitor,if i change to i5 can u adjust to me?thanks

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QUOTE(Quan920907 @ Mar 14 2017, 12:00 AM)
what different between 60hz and 144hz monitor,if i change to i5 can u adjust to me?thanks
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It's refresh rate difference, hard to describe with words, you will get the meaning when you try it out yourself on a demo unit. 60Hz means your screen refreshes/changes the image/frame by 60 times per second, 144Hz means 144 times so it is much smoother than 60Hz in general, very useful for fast pace games.

If you only want to switch to i5, you can just change the i7 to i5 directly, other parts can remain, total cost will reduce by around RM 500+/- (if you get i5 7500).


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[Budget] - RM1,000 + - (Rig only)

[Purpose] - for office

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - microsoft office and accounting software only

Prefer with i3 processor if able to squeeze in, in case future can slap in another graphic card for my kid gaming😅

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QUOTE(FiragaZ @ Mar 14 2017, 01:43 PM)
[Budget] - RM1,000 + - (Rig only)

[Purpose] - for office

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - microsoft office and accounting software only

Prefer with i3 processor if able to squeeze in, in case future can slap in another graphic card for my kid gaming😅
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How about these?

Pentium G4560 (i3 in disguise) - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 4GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 148
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Cap ayam PSU and casing - RM120

RM1008 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 14 2017, 08:56 AM)
It's refresh rate difference, hard to describe with words, you will get the meaning when you try it out yourself on a demo unit. 60Hz means your screen refreshes/changes the image/frame by 60 times per second, 144Hz means 144 times so it is much smoother than 60Hz in general, very useful for fast pace games.

If you only want to switch to i5, you can just change the i7 to i5 directly, other parts can remain, total cost will reduce by around RM 500+/- (if you get i5 7500).
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ALRIGHT,WHAT U WILL RECOMMEND 144HZ MONITOR FOR GAMING?
IF GAMING ONLY,I5 IS OVERKILL THOSE GAME?

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QUOTE(Quan920907 @ Mar 14 2017, 03:52 PM)
ALRIGHT,WHAT U WILL RECOMMEND 144HZ MONITOR FOR GAMING?
IF GAMING ONLY,I5 IS OVERKILL THOSE GAME?
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Take a chill pill, no need to type in CAPS laugh.gif

The cheapest 1080p 144Hz monitor costs around 1k.

1. Acer KG240A (around 900 - 1k)
2. BenQ Zowie XL2411 (around 1.1k)
3. Acer XB240H (around 1.1k)
4. XF240H FreeSync (around 1.2k)
5. AOC G2460PF FreeSync (around 1.2k)
6. AOC G2460PQU (around 1.1k)

Please take note that all these monitors listed above are using TN panel, the build that I have listed down for you initially comes with an Dell IPS monitor, the differences between them are mostly viewing angle and color reproduction, TN has bad viewing angle and color reproduction but comes with a much higher refresh rate (144 vs 60) and faster response time (1ms vs 6ms), this is the sacrifice that you need to make if you switch from 60Hz to 144Hz, then you might ask why don't go for IPS 144Hz? Yes you can but the cheapest model costs more than 3k, your budget cannot fit it yet.

i5 is not overkill, some MMORPG use a lot of CPU resources and the i5 will help a bit here.
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QUOTE(Quan920907 @ Mar 14 2017, 03:52 PM)
ALRIGHT,WHAT U WILL RECOMMEND 144HZ MONITOR FOR GAMING?
IF GAMING ONLY,I5 IS OVERKILL THOSE GAME?
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Considering that you want to run GTA V, maintaining the i7 is ideal. Adding another RM500+ you should be able to get a 144Hz 24" monitor, one with G-sync since you will be running a GTX1060.

BenQ Zowie XL2411 comes to mind.



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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 14 2017, 02:16 PM)
How about these?

Pentium G4560 (i3 in disguise) - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 4GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 148
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Cap ayam PSU and casing - RM120

RM1008 total (C-Zone prices)
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Hi all,

Am thinking of upgrading my current gaming desktop. My current budget for the upgrade is around RM5000 (excluding current parts that I have). I'm also trying to search for a lightweight/small casing that can fit all the parts as I may have to move several times. The following would be the existing parts that I have:

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory



I have something like the following in my mind (edited).
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Casing: Any recommendation for a lightweight/small casing?

Would appreciate if you could advise on my current build. Any recommendation for it would be much appreciated.

Thank you!

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Hi sifuss

I was wondering since amd ryzen launched and intel is gonna cut price according to news. Is it a good time to buy now or wait until the price drop?
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QUOTE(dudey @ Mar 14 2017, 10:31 PM)
Hi all,

Am thinking of upgrading my current gaming desktop. My current budget for the upgrade is around RM5000 (excluding current parts that I have). I'm also trying to search for a lightweight/small casing that can fit all the parts as I may have to move several times. The following would be the existing parts that I have:

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
I have something like the following in my mind.
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Casing: Any recommendation for a lightweight/small casing?

Would appreciate if you could advise on my current build. Any recommendation for it would be much appreciated.

Thank you!
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Not sure what kind of games you play but assuming you are playing at 1080p, looks like a decent build and I understand you are trying to re-use your existing DDR3. If you want small but still use an ATX mobo, Fractal Design Define C or Corsair Carbide 400 or NZXT S340 may be your choices. They aren't exactly light at ~8kg.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 14 2017, 11:29 PM)
Not sure what kind of games you play but assuming you are playing at 1080p, looks like a decent build and I understand you are trying to re-use your existing DDR3. If you want small but still use an ATX mobo, Fractal Design Define C or Corsair Carbide 400 or NZXT S340 may be your choices. They aren't exactly light at ~8kg.
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Thanks. I've made some modification to the current build. I need to additional memory for some work. What do you think.

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Casing: Any recommendation for a lightweight/small casing?
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QUOTE(dudey @ Mar 15 2017, 12:07 AM)
Thanks. I've made some modification to the current build. I need to additional memory for some work. What do you think.

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Casing: Any recommendation for a lightweight/small casing?
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It's a much better build, more relevant. Mobo is still ATX.
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QUOTE(shunkori @ Mar 14 2017, 11:25 PM)
Hi sifuss

I was wondering since amd ryzen launched and intel is gonna cut price according to news. Is it a good time to buy now or wait until the price drop?
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No official price drop yet from Intel, at least in Malaysia. Don't get your hope too high here, we might not see any price drop after all biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dudey @ Mar 15 2017, 12:07 AM)
Thanks. I've made some modification to the current build. I need to additional memory for some work. What do you think.

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X OC Video Card
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME 650W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Casing: Any recommendation for a lightweight/small casing?
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Erm, lightweight and small casing contradict with ATX mobo sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 14 2017, 02:16 PM)
How about these?

Pentium G4560 (i3 in disguise) - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 4GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 148
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Cap ayam PSU and casing - RM120

RM1008 total (C-Zone prices)
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can recommend cheapest acer IPS monitor? 20-24inch?

Acer 24.0In K242Hl Bd Led Monitor any good? its an IPS right
, any more cheaper than this?

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QUOTE(bamkai @ Mar 15 2017, 10:55 AM)
can recommend cheapest acer IPS monitor? 20-24inch?

Acer 24.0In K242Hl Bd Led Monitor any good? its an IPS right
, any more cheaper than this?
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Did a quick online search, K242HL is using TN panel, not IPS.

The cheapest Acer IPS monitor is R221Q, 21.5", around RM 500.
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Did a quick online search, K242HL is using TN panel, not IPS.

The cheapest Acer IPS monitor is R221Q, 21.5", around RM 500.
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Thanks terence. Any other brand that i can get cheaper than this?
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Thanks terence. Any other brand that i can get cheaper than this?
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AOC I2280SWD, 21.5" - around RM 400
ViewSonic VA-2259-SH, 21.5", around RM 450
ViewSonic VA2419-SH, 24" - around RM 500
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I'm looking at the following system for RM3,165. It's a used/secondhand system with a new GPU.

Can I get some feedback on this build? Is it worth it?



Intel Core i5 4440
Asus H97 Plus
8GB HyperX Fury 1866MHz RAM
Asus GTX 1060 6GB Dual
240GB m.2 SSD
WD Green 1TB HDD
Cooler Master K380 Casing
Cooler Master 500w PSU




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QUOTE(bamkai @ Mar 15 2017, 11:11 AM)
Thanks terence. Any other brand that i can get cheaper than this?
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C-Zone also selling LG 22MP48HQ 21.5" at RM408.

QUOTE(kwackers @ Mar 15 2017, 02:22 PM)
I'm looking at the following system for RM3,165.  It's a used/secondhand system with a new GPU.

Can I get some feedback on this build?  Is it worth it?
Intel Core i5 4440
Asus H97 Plus
8GB HyperX Fury 1866MHz RAM
Asus GTX 1060 6GB Dual
240GB m.2 SSD
WD Green 1TB HDD
Cooler Master K380 Casing
Cooler Master 500w PSU
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Quite reasonable. You might wanna replace that questionable power supply though.


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Can i get a mini itx build rig with gtx 1070 with RM4.5K budget ? @.@
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QUOTE(Mnsyahir96 @ Mar 16 2017, 02:34 AM)
Can i get a mini itx build rig with gtx 1070 with RM4.5K budget ? @.@
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Depends on your other requirements, like casing, storage, brand etc.

Based on my calculation, 4.5k can mostly fit i5 CPU, a non-K i5 is known to create CPU bottleneck when pairing with GTX1070, the GTX1070 won't be able to fully utilize/unleash its full power/potential in CPU demanding titles like Watch Dogs 2, TC: GR Wildlands, Hitman 2016 etc.
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Hey guys. Sorry for a little off topic question. I was wondering there were no more seasonic PSU recommendations. I have seen many seller dropped their products as well. Is Seasonic out of business?
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 16 2017, 09:34 AM)
Hey guys. Sorry for a little off topic question. I was wondering there were no more seasonic PSU recommendations. I have seen many seller dropped their products as well. Is Seasonic out of business?
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This is because Edifier MY (distributor) has stopped bringing in Seasonic PSU into Malaysia since Q3 last year.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 16 2017, 09:50 AM)
This is because Edifier MY (distributor) has stopped bringing in Seasonic PSU into Malaysia since Q3 last year.
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GG. Who's gonna handle the warranty?
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AFAIK there is no new distributor for Seasonic in Malaysia yet, Seasonic HQ in Taiwan will be in charge of RMA/warranty and it will take longer time to complete the claim.
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Hey guys, is it worth to upgrade from i5 4460 to i7 7700?
huge different or slightly different?
Also, isn't the higher ghz the faster it process? Sry for asking noob question.
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QUOTE(Ultraman123 @ Mar 16 2017, 11:15 AM)
Hey guys, is it worth to upgrade from i5 4460 to i7 7700?
huge different or slightly different?
Also, isn't the higher ghz the faster it process? Sry for asking noob question.
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From an i5 4460 to an i7 7700, there will definitely be an improvement for performance. You can check this.

A possible wallet-friendly upgrade is to trade up your i5 4460 to an i7-4790 or an i7 4790K if your existing mobo supports OC.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 16 2017, 10:20 AM)
AFAIK there is no new distributor for Seasonic in Malaysia yet, Seasonic HQ in Taiwan will be in charge of RMA/warranty and it will take longer time to complete the claim.
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QUOTE(Mnsyahir96 @ Mar 16 2017, 02:34 AM)
Can i get a mini itx build rig with gtx 1070 with RM4.5K budget ? @.@
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ITX is more expensive than normal size. This is the price for just normal

Core i7-7700 - 1378
Gigabyte B250M-HD3 - 409
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Cheapest GTX 1070 8GB DDR5 - 1750 (estimated from Garage Sales)
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Additional 12cm fan (Required. Most graphic cards on sale these days does not vent the heat directly) - 25
Thermaltake V3 (pick your model) case - 169

RM4451 total (C-Zone prices)

To go ITX, you need these

Gigabyte H270N-WIFI - 649
Coolermaster Elite 130 - 199

Or even smaller but more expensive

Gigabyte H270N-WIFI - 649
Silverstone SFX 600W - 585
Silverstone ML08B case - 339

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Hi,

Please recommend me a game rig with RM4k - RM5k budget, prefer SSD and 16GB RAM.

Thank you.

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Hi,

Please recommend me a game rig with RM4k budget, prefer SSD and 16GB RAM.

Thank you.
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Adding SSD for a new PC will get you less base performance.

How about these?

Core i5-7500 - 896
Gigabyte B250M-HD3 - 409
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Transcend 220S 120GB - 254
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Additional 12cm fan (Required. Most graphic cards on sale these days does not vent the heat directly) - 25
Thermaltake V3 (pick your model) case - 169

RM4033 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 15 2017, 02:26 PM)
C-Zone also selling LG 22MP48HQ 21.5" at RM408.
Quite reasonable. You might wanna replace that questionable power supply though.
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The 500w Cooler Master psu came with the secondhand rig.

I was told there shouldn't be any issue since the GTX1060 doesn't exceed 122w:

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2017, 02:46 PM)
Adding SSD for a new PC will get you less base performance.

How about these?

Core i5-7500 - 896
Gigabyte B250M-HD3 - 409
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Transcend 220S 120GB - 254
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Additional 12cm fan (Required. Most graphic cards on sale these days does not vent the heat directly) - 25
Thermaltake V3 (pick your model) case - 169

RM4033 total (C-Zone prices)
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Kindly enlighten me SSD will get less base performance.

how about if I increase budget to 5k? Can go up to i7?
And the 8GB ram cost RM520?
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QUOTE(kwackers @ Mar 16 2017, 02:53 PM)
The 500w Cooler Master psu came with the secondhand rig.

I was told there shouldn't be any issue since the GTX1060 doesn't exceed 122w:

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Because Coolermaster has a crappy line of PSUs. Extreme Power Plus is one of them.

Oh, that chart is just the graphic card, not total system power consumption.
QUOTE(loonsave @ Mar 16 2017, 03:14 PM)
Kindly enlighten me SSD will get less base performance.

how about if I increase budget to 5k? Can go up to i7?
And the 8GB ram cost RM520?
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Base performance is PC performance. SSD just improves load times.

520 is for X2. Forgot to update

5k can get you better stuffs and i7.

Core i7-7700 - 1378
Gigabyte B250M-HD3 - 409
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
Seagate 1TB HDD - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5029 total (C-Zone prices)

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Hello, it is possible to build a rig that consist of GTX1060 and small case with the budget of 3k?
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Hey there, I thought of doing an upgrade to my PC

[Budget] About RM 2000

[Purpose] gaming. recent AAA titles with ultra settings and min 60fps on 1080p


[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU (550 W), HDD (1 tb), 2x ssd Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] games. deus ex, witcher 3, battlefield 1, gta v, tomb raider, far cry

Current specs:

Intel Core I5 3470
2x 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Asrock Z77E-ITX
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planned for change gpu to gtx 1070. will it bottleneck my cpu a lot? if so what is an ideal upgrade for my current spec

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Mar 16 2017, 09:11 PM)
Hello, it is possible to build a rig that consist of GTX1060 and small case with the budget of 3k?
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Small case as in MITX mobo?
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No official price drop yet from Intel, at least in Malaysia. Don't get your hope too high here, we might not see any price drop after all  biggrin.gif
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tough luck then sad.gif I have 1 more question.
for gaming in max settings, do i really need a decent GPU? like those gpu that can clock? for example i5 7600 v it 7600k

mind to enlighten me the difference?
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Hello, it is possible to build a rig that consist of GTX1060 and small case with the budget of 3k?
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Not enough. Case and SFX PSU alone already at this price

Silverstone ML08B - 339
Silverstone SFX 500W - 490

Unless you are fine with Coolermaster Elite 130 case.

QUOTE(synchronyzablemie @ Mar 16 2017, 09:31 PM)
Hey there, I thought of doing an upgrade to my PC

[Budget] About RM 2000

[Purpose] gaming. recent AAA titles with ultra settings and min 60fps on 1080p
[Hardwares that will be re-use] PSU (550 W), HDD (1 tb), 2x ssd Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] games. deus ex, witcher 3, battlefield 1, gta v, tomb raider, far cry

Current specs:

Intel Core I5 3470
2x 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Asrock Z77E-ITX
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planned for change gpu to gtx 1070. will it bottleneck my cpu a lot? if so what is an ideal upgrade for my current spec
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You can get GTX1070 but i5 will bottleneck it. You gotta go for i7 or AMD Ryzen if you want GTX 1070.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2017, 09:42 PM)
Not enough. Case and SFX PSU alone already at this price

Silverstone ML08B - 339
Silverstone SFX 500W - 490

Unless you are fine with Coolermaster Elite 130 case.
You can get GTX1070 but i5 will bottleneck it. You gotta go for i7 or AMD Ryzen if you want GTX 1070.
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So what is the best possible way of upgrading my pc. Will the bottlenecking will affect my pc performance a lot?
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QUOTE(shunkori @ Mar 16 2017, 09:36 PM)
tough luck then sad.gif I have 1 more question.
for gaming in max settings, do i really need a decent GPU? like those gpu that can clock? for example i5 7600 v it 7600k

mind to enlighten me the difference?
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It depends on the resolution you game at and the type of games you play. Some games like GTA V require a strong CPU as well as decent GPU. Most will require GPU. Remember though, a low end CPU will bottleneck a high end GPU
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So what is the best possible way of upgrading my pc. Will the bottlenecking will affect my pc performance a lot?
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Look for second hand i7-3770. You can still go for GTX 1070 but it will bottleneck on certain games. I think most games should work fine though. Current generation CPUs needs you to change motherboard and RAM as well.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 10 2017, 11:20 AM)
Dota 2, CS:GO (and other heavy single core application or single threaded application) runs faster on a CPU with higher core clock speed, i.e. i3 7100's 3.9GHz will beat i5 7400's 3.5GHz in those games, but when it comes with multicore or multithreaded application, i5 7400 will lead once again.

Rise of the Tomb Raider favors Nvidia GPU, even in DX12 mode, with the recent driver update (378.78), performance is boosted even more for this games in DX12 mode (they claim to have 20%+ for 10 series GPU).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 835
Asus H110I-PLUS - RM 380
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 289
Gigabyte RX470 4GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 989 <Cheapest GTX1060 3GB is 1.2k at Idealtech so I will have to use RX470 to replace it>  sweat.gif
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 219
Shark Zone C10 - RM 199

Total: RM 3130 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Another build with GTX1060 3GB from ETECH:

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 2953 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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Can I simply swap CM Elite 110 with Shark Zone C10 for this build?

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Another build with GTX1060 3GB from ETECH:

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
CM Elite 110 - RM 158
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QUOTE(shunkori @ Mar 16 2017, 09:36 PM)
tough luck then sad.gif I have 1 more question.
for gaming in max settings, do i really need a decent GPU? like those gpu that can clock? for example i5 7600 v it 7600k

mind to enlighten me the difference?
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Er wait, you are talking about CPU right? If yes then it depends on the games, if it is heavy in CPU then you will benefit from a faster CPU, K or non-K don't matter if you don't overclock it but K series CPU is generally faster than non-K due to higher stock core clock speed.

QUOTE(hoxxaf @ Mar 16 2017, 11:17 PM)
Can I simply swap CM Elite 110 with Shark Zone C10 for this build?
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It depends on the resolution you game at and the type of games you play. Some games like GTA V require a strong CPU as well as decent GPU. Most will require GPU. Remember though, a low end CPU will bottleneck a high end GPU
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i see. thanks for the info! biggrin.gif

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Er wait, you are talking about CPU right? If yes then it depends on the games, if it is heavy in CPU then you will benefit from a faster CPU, K or non-K don't matter if you don't overclock it but K series CPU is generally faster than non-K due to higher stock core clock speed.
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yeah, sorry sorry wasn't thinking properly yesterday tongue.gif. that's the thing. I'm not sure will i overclock or not. am new to the overclocking thing and would like to expore more scare if I overclock
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Hi sifus, is there any significant difference when it comes to 3D/game engine rendering on i7 non-K and K processors? (i7-7700 and i7-7700K in this case)

Planning to get the K variant since it offers faster clocking speed than non-K but since my mobo budget is only around RM500, is it totally fine to go for B250/H270 chipset mobo?

P/S: I don't really plan to overclock the processor since i simply want to play safe (heard that overclocking decreases the processor lifespan)
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i see. thanks for the info! biggrin.gif
yeah, sorry sorry wasn't thinking properly yesterday tongue.gif. that's the thing. I'm not sure will i overclock or not. am new to the overclocking thing and would like to expore more scare if I overclock
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In order to go for overclocking path, you need to prepare some "extra" budget for the components, an overclocked mobo (Z270 for latest Intel chipset or X370/X300/B350 for AMD AM4), a decent after market CPU cooler (new K CPU doesn't come with stock cooler anymore, even if it does include a stock cooler, it still couldn't cope with the amount of heat dissipated), a supported PSU (just make sure it is stable when you overclock) and etc.

If you're limited on budget, don't ever think of overclocking, the performance/price ratio is bad generally.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 16 2017, 12:00 PM)
From an i5 4460 to an i7 7700, there will definitely be an improvement for performance. You can check this.

A possible wallet-friendly upgrade is to trade up your i5 4460 to an i7-4790 or an i7 4790K if your existing mobo supports OC.
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Thanks with the useful link.
Another noob question to ask, is the i7 7700 can support a ddr3 motherboard?
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QUOTE(REManiac @ Mar 17 2017, 10:25 AM)
Hi sifus, is there any significant difference when it comes to 3D/game engine rendering on i7 non-K and K processors? (i7-7700 and i7-7700K in this case)

Planning to get the K variant since it offers faster clocking speed than non-K but since my mobo budget is only around RM500, is it totally fine to go for B250/H270 chipset mobo?

P/S: I don't really plan to overclock the processor since i simply want to play safe (heard that overclocking decreases the processor lifespan)
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Yes quite significant and worth the extra RM 100+ for 7700K, the stock speed difference is 0.6GHz when turbo boost is off (4.2G vs 3.6G) and the most important thing is quad core turbo boost on 7700K can stay at 4.4G while 7700 can only manage to do 4.0G, but bear in mind you will need to spend extra for an after market CPU cooler too because 7700K doesn't come with stock cooler.

QUOTE(Ultraman123 @ Mar 17 2017, 10:40 AM)
Thanks with the useful link.
Another noob question to ask, is the i7 7700 can support a ddr3 motherboard?
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You need to look for previous generation chipset (namely H110/B150/H170/Z170) with DDR3 RAM slot to use DDR3 RAM with i7 7700.
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QUOTE(Ultraman123 @ Mar 17 2017, 10:40 AM)
Thanks with the useful link.
Another noob question to ask, is the i7 7700 can support a ddr3 motherboard?
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As Terence mentioned, you will need to get older mobo that supports DDR3 for this purpose. Unless your plan revolves around reusing existing DDR3 that you may have, it is actually better to get on the current DDR4 platforms. You could always sell your DDR3 in GS
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 17 2017, 10:44 AM)
Yes quite significant and worth the extra RM 100+ for 7700K, the stock speed difference is 0.6GHz when turbo boost is off (4.2G vs 3.6G) and the most important thing is quad core turbo boost on 7700K can stay at 4.4G while 7700 can only manage to do 4.0G, but bear in mind you will need to spend extra for an after market CPU cooler too because 7700K doesn't come with stock cooler.
You need to look for previous generation chipset (namely H110/B150/H170/Z170) with DDR3 RAM slot to use DDR3 RAM with i7 7700.
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As Terence mentioned, you will need to get older mobo that supports DDR3 for this purpose. Unless your plan revolves around reusing existing DDR3 that you may have, it is actually better to get on the current DDR4 platforms. You could always sell your DDR3 in GS
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OK thanks guys, will get a new motherboard combo with i7.. as well as the ddr4 ram.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 17 2017, 10:44 AM)
Yes quite significant and worth the extra RM 100+ for 7700K, the stock speed difference is 0.6GHz when turbo boost is off (4.2G vs 3.6G) and the most important thing is quad core turbo boost on 7700K can stay at 4.4G while 7700 can only manage to do 4.0G, but bear in mind you will need to spend extra for an after market CPU cooler too because 7700K doesn't come with stock cooler.
Ah i see, any budget CPU cooler recommended? Do i have to invest on thermal paste as well?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 17 2017, 10:29 AM)
In order to go for overclocking path, you need to prepare some "extra" budget for the components, an overclocked mobo (Z270 for latest Intel chipset or X370/X300/B350 for AMD AM4), a decent after market CPU cooler (new K CPU doesn't come with stock cooler anymore, even if it does include a stock cooler, it still couldn't cope with the amount of heat dissipated), a supported PSU (just make sure it is stable when you overclock) and etc.

If you're limited on budget, don't ever think of overclocking, the performance/price ratio is bad generally.
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Yeah, I am aware of that. This is what I planning for my rig

Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
z170 or z270 mobo.

Not sure if I should push higher for z270 or 170. my budget is around 5k +-
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Yeah, I am aware of that. This is what I planning for my rig

Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
z170 or z270 mobo.

Not sure if I should push higher for z270 or 170. my budget is around 5k +-
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Cost of Z270 vs Z170 mobo is not too overly different. Better to be current since you are going into KabyLake. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish
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Ah i see, any budget CPU cooler recommended? Do i have to invest on thermal paste as well?
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CM 212 series, TX3 EVO etc. Due to different CPU cooler clearance of each casing, you need to choose the one which can fit in your casing.

And answer to your previous question, yes any B250/H270 will do unless you are looking for specific feature like USB-C, 3.1, RAID etc.

QUOTE(shunkori @ Mar 17 2017, 12:13 PM)
Yeah, I am aware of that. This is what I planning for my rig

Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
z170 or z270 mobo.

Not sure if I should push higher for z270 or 170. my budget is around 5k +-
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Z170 is slightly cheaper than Z270 here, this is because most of the Z170 in our local market are still based on old price (before our currency become 1 USD to RM 4.5).

If you don't need the new features offered by Z270 then you can just go for Z170.
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Hey guys, i wang to buy new gpu. Budget around 400 below. What can i get with that budget (replace my gtx 750 ti). Someone offer me asus gtx 750 ti strix oc rm 400. With warranty. Should i take it?
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Proc - i3-4130
Mobo - Asrock H81M-DGS
GPU -
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w
HDD - 500 g WD
RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

Hey guys, i wang to buy new gpu. Budget around 400 below. What can i get with that budget (replace my gtx 750 ti). Someone offer me asus gtx 750 ti strix oc rm 400. With warranty. Should i take it?
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Unless your current gtx 750i is dead, the gtx 750 ti strix OC is the same thing
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Unless your current gtx 750i is dead, the gtx 750 ti strix OC is the same thing
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Yup dead... So the price is okay?
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Proc - i3-4130
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GPU -
PSU - FSP Hexa 500w
HDD - 500 g WD
RAM - kingston Value RAM 8GB

Hey guys, i wang to buy new gpu. Budget around 400 below. What can i get with that budget (replace my gtx 750 ti). Someone offer me asus gtx 750 ti strix oc rm 400. With warranty. Should i take it?
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You should get something better. Getting the same thing is not worth it. Games gets more demanding over time.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 17 2017, 09:18 PM)
You should get something better. Getting the same thing is not worth it. Games gets more demanding over time.
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Tough with his RM400 budget
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 17 2017, 09:18 PM)
You should get something better. Getting the same thing is not worth it. Games gets more demanding over time.
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Better means higher end gpu (used) or increase budget?
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QUOTE(gengreengeng @ Mar 17 2017, 09:28 PM)
Better means higher end gpu (used) or increase budget?
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Better used GPU or increase budget.
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where to buy ryzen 1800 series in KL ? should we wait a bit for motherboards to become stable or buy biggrin.gif

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hai...im planning to upgrade my existing rig to 1151 platform..

i3 4130
Gigabyte Sniper B5
8GB value ram
Silverstone ST56F
Palit 1060 3GB ------> newly bought

due to tight budget...im eyeing for

G4560
Asus H110M-K
Corsair value ram 8GB

Worth?

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QUOTE(bpc @ Mar 18 2017, 01:17 AM)
where to buy ryzen 1800 series in KL ? should we wait a bit for motherboards to become stable or buy biggrin.gif
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Plenty of stores carry it already, if you are not looking for SFF (X300/A300/B300) mobo then you can buy it now as stocks have arrived tentatively since last week.

I have seen Viewnet/DotaTech/ETECH selling the 1800X @ RM 2599.

QUOTE(sany1424 @ Mar 18 2017, 03:14 AM)
hai...im planning to upgrade my existing rig to 1151 platform..

i3 4130
Gigabyte Sniper B5
8GB value ram
Silverstone ST56F
Palit 1060 3GB ------> newly bought

due to tight budget...im eyeing for

G4560
Asus H110M-K
Corsair value ram 8GB

Worth?
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Not worth, the performance is almost the same.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 18 2017, 09:05 AM)
Plenty of stores carry it already, if you are not looking for SFF (X300/A300/B300) mobo then you can buy it now as stocks have arrived tentatively since last week.

I have seen Viewnet/DotaTech/ETECH selling the 1800X @ RM 2599.
Not worth, the performance is almost the same.
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thx mate
MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM # AMD RYZEN Socket AM4 looks fine actually has ddr4 3200 support price is 1799 at dotatech
and for graphics card i am thinking GIGABYTE GTX1070 WINDFORCE # 8G/D5 / GV-N1070WF2-8GD what do u say? and finally can i fit all those to NZXT MANTA Mini ITX ? biggrin.gif thx man

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QUOTE(bpc @ Mar 18 2017, 11:58 AM)
thx mate
MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM # AMD RYZEN Socket AM4 looks fine actually has ddr4 3200 support price is 1799 at dotatech
and for graphics card i am thinking GIGABYTE GTX1070 WINDFORCE # 8G/D5 / GV-N1070WF2-8GD what do u say? and finally can i fit all those to NZXT MANTA Mini ITX  ? biggrin.gif thx man
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The Gigabyte gtx1070 windforce length is 280mm while NZXT Manta can cater for GPU up to 363mm length so, no problem. As the NZXT Manta is for M-ITX mobo, please ensure the mobo you select is M-ITX as I don't think the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM is M-ITX.

EDIT: If you looking for a small chassis but using ATX mobo, do consider Fractal Design Define C, NZXT S340 or Corsair Carbide 400

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 16 2017, 04:17 PM)
Because Coolermaster has a crappy line of PSUs. Extreme Power Plus is one of them.

Oh, that chart is just the graphic card, not total system power consumption.

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Thanks TristanX.

I'll see about swapping the PSU out with one of my other desktop rigs then.
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QUOTE(bpc @ Mar 18 2017, 11:58 AM)
thx mate
MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM # AMD RYZEN Socket AM4 looks fine actually has ddr4 3200 support price is 1799 at dotatech
and for graphics card i am thinking GIGABYTE GTX1070 WINDFORCE # 8G/D5 / GV-N1070WF2-8GD what do u say? and finally can i fit all those to NZXT MANTA Mini ITX  ? biggrin.gif thx man
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As mentioned earlier, SFF AM4 mobo is still not released yet so if you are aiming for mITX build, you will have to postpone your idea now or switch to Intel.
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QUOTE(kwackers @ Mar 18 2017, 01:41 PM)
Thanks TristanX. 

I'll see about swapping the PSU out with one of my other desktop rigs then.
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Just check the PSU model first before swapping.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 17 2017, 09:32 PM)
Better used GPU or increase budget.
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I got offer gtx 950 for 450. Take it?
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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Mar 18 2017, 08:04 PM)
I got offer gtx 950 for 450. Take it?
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Better than GTX 750 Ti. Pricing looks ok. Some preview of it.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_950_Gaming/

You be the judge.
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Budget under 700.00 Just need CPU, Mobo and ram.
Just play CS:Go..

What should I get? Right now using E8400.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Mar 18 2017, 09:00 PM)
Budget under 700.00 Just need CPU, Mobo and ram.
Just play CS:Go..

What should I get?  Right now using E8400.
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Asking for my friend,
He want to upgrade his cpu i3-7100
Budget around 400-800 used/new to pair with gtx 1060 6gb mini.

And also what decent price that i3 can be sold?

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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 19 2017, 12:11 AM)
Asking for my friend,
He want to upgrade his cpu i3-7100
Budget around 400-800 used/new to pair with gtx 1060 6gb mini.

And also what decent price that i3 can be sold?
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i5 is within the budget range, i7 & Ryzen are out of reach.

Used unit price for i3 7100 should be around RM 400+/-, but bear in mind that Kaby Lake i3 is facing a strong competition with an entry level G4560 which is having similar core configuration as i3 (2C4T), value might drop further.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 19 2017, 09:18 AM)
i5 is within the budget range, i7 & Ryzen are out of reach.

Used unit price for i3 7100 should be around RM 400+/-, but bear in mind that Kaby Lake i3 is facing a strong competition with an entry level G4560 which is having similar core configuration as i3 (2C4T), value might drop further.
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oic i5.. alright..

is it better to get new i5 generation priced around 700-900 or used i5 4th generation which i saw around 400-600.
Sometimes there also used i7 around my budget though. is better performance to get used i7 of 2nd - 4th generation compare to that i3-7100?

intel that got 3 digit is what generation? like i5 750 or somewhat,, cant remember

btw.. thanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:11 AM)
oic i5.. alright..

is it better to get new i5 generation priced around 700-900 or used i5 4th generation which i saw around 400-600.
Sometimes there also used i7 around my budget though. is better performance to get used i7 of 2nd - 4th generation compare to that i3-7100?

intel that got 3 digit is what generation? like i5 750 or somewhat,, cant remember

btw.. thanks  biggrin.gif
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It depends on the mobo that you already have. Given that your friend already has an i3-7100 (Kabylake), he could consider getting an i5-6xxx (Skylake). Unfortunately, that motherboard cannot be used with older generation of CPUs
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:11 AM)
oic i5.. alright..

is it better to get new i5 generation priced around 700-900 or used i5 4th generation which i saw around 400-600.
Sometimes there also used i7 around my budget though. is better performance to get used i7 of 2nd - 4th generation compare to that i3-7100?

intel that got 3 digit is what generation? like i5 750 or somewhat,, cant remember

btw.. thanks  biggrin.gif
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1st gen bruh
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:16 AM)
It depends on the mobo that you already have. Given that your friend already has an i3-7100 (Kabylake), he could consider getting an i5-6xxx (Skylake). Unfortunately, that motherboard cannot be used with older generation of CPUs
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his mobo is asrock h110m-hdv.

icic.. need to see if its compatible also hmm.gif

thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:16 AM)
1st gen bruh
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lol.. hahaha.. no wonder so cheap.. hmm.gif

im noob about pc tongue.gif

thanks btw biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:21 AM)
lol.. hahaha.. no wonder so cheap..  hmm.gif

im noob about pc  tongue.gif

thanks btw  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 19 2017, 10:20 AM)
his mobo is asrock h110m-hdv.

icic.. need to see if its compatible also  hmm.gif

thanks  smile.gif
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The Asrock h110m-hdv will support both 6th and 7th Gen Intel CPU with its socket 1151.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 17 2017, 03:38 PM)
CM 212 series, TX3 EVO etc. Due to different CPU cooler clearance of each casing, you need to choose the one which can fit in your casing.

And answer to your previous question, yes any B250/H270 will do unless you are looking for specific feature like USB-C, 3.1, RAID etc.
I see, thank you for your suggestions biggrin.gif
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Hi Guys,

Games that I play:

1. CSGO
2. Mass Effect: Andromeda (Coming soon)
3. The Witcher

My standard resolution is Full HD 1920 x 1080p

I am planning to upgrade my 8 year old CPU (AMD x3 720BE) to the new Ryzen. What do you think of the below specs:

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X
RX 470 or RX 570 (Launching in April 2017)
Gigabyte or Asus B350 Mainboard
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD
KG240A 144MHz monitor
Cosair VS 650W
8GB Cosair D4 Vengence 2666 C16 LPX 2X

Other PC items that are not relevant:
Armageddon Case

Thanks for the assist, appreciate it.

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Mar 21 2017, 09:18 AM)
Hi Guys,

Games that I play:

1. CSGO
2. Mass Effect: Andromeda (Coming soon)
3. The Witcher

My standard resolution is Full HD 1920 x 1080p

I am planning to upgrade my 8 year old CPU (AMD x3 720BE) to the new Ryzen. What do you think of the below specs:

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X
RX 470 or RX 570 (Launching in April 2017)
Gigabyte or Asus B350 Mainboard
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD
KG240A 144MHz monitor
Cosair VS 650W
8GB Cosair D4 Vengence 2666 C16 LPX 2X

Other PC items that are not relevant:
Armageddon Case

Thanks for the assist, appreciate it.
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Looks like a capable build for 1080p gaming. You may want to consider getting a bigger SSD or adding a HDD though.

EDIT : Witcher 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda will require 40+55Gb free storage space

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Hi guys. I'm thinking of building a mini pc using Cooler Master 110 or any similar portable mini PC case. Please give full suggestion for the hardwares that I need thanks.

[Budget] <RM2k

[Purpose] Gaming on 1080P on smallest PC, high graphic setting.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 1TB Green HDD, MKB+Mouse.

[Monitor resolution]
- ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 495 1080P, if there's a better 1 pls give suggestion. Minimum 21.5".

[Games & softwares that use frequently] : The Witcher series, common upcoming AAA games

[Personal preferences] : RX460 2GB, I will upgrade to GTX1070. So expecting to be using same CPU for GTX1070. Will not overclock. Amd Ryzen if viable?

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 21 2017, 09:56 AM)
Hi guys. I'm thinking of building a mini pc using Cooler Master 110 or any similar portable mini PC case. Please give full suggestion for the hardwares that I need thanks.

[Budget] <RM2k

[Purpose] Gaming on 1080P on smallest PC, high graphic setting.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 1TB Green HDD, MKB+Mouse.

[Monitor resolution]
- ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 495 1080P, if there's a better 1 pls give suggestion. Minimum 21.5".

[Games & softwares that use frequently] : The Witcher series, common upcoming AAA games

[Personal preferences] : RX460 2GB, I will upgrade to GTX1070. So expecting to be using same CPU for GTX1070. Will not overclock. Amd Ryzen if viable?
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The Cooler Master ELite 110 case supports M-ITX mobo and GPU length up to 210mm. Not sure if your RM2k budget is inclusive of the monitor (RM495)

CPU - Intel G4560 RM249
Mobo - Asus H110i-PLUS RM380
RAM - 8GB Kingston PC DDR4-2133 RM270
HDD - Re-use
Case - Cooler Master Elite 110 RM189
PSU - Cooler Master Elite 550W RM235
GPU - Gigabyte RX460 Windforce OC 2Gb RM559 (Idealtech)

TOTAL - RM1882 Based on C-Zone pricing unless otherwise stated

If you elect to go with i3-6100 (RM493) instead, total works out to RM2126 or i3-7100 (RM518) for RM2151

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 21 2017, 09:56 AM)
Hi guys. I'm thinking of building a mini pc using Cooler Master 110 or any similar portable mini PC case. Please give full suggestion for the hardwares that I need thanks.

[Budget] <RM2k

[Purpose] Gaming on 1080P on smallest PC, high graphic setting.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 1TB Green HDD, MKB+Mouse.

[Monitor resolution]
- ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 495 1080P, if there's a better 1 pls give suggestion. Minimum 21.5".

[Games & softwares that use frequently] : The Witcher series, common upcoming AAA games

[Personal preferences] : RX460 2GB, I will upgrade to GTX1070. So expecting to be using same CPU for GTX1070. Will not overclock. Amd Ryzen if viable?
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This is a tight budget, especially when you request to re-use your CPU when you upgrade the GPU to GTX1070 in the future, CPU bottleneck surely will happen if you go for dual core CPU now.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 21 2017, 09:54 AM)
Looks like a capable build for 1080p gaming. You may want to consider getting a bigger SSD or adding a HDD though.

EDIT : Witcher 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda will require 40+55Gb free storage space
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Hi Bro,

thanks for the reply, good point! guess I will need the higher capacity SSD.

A question though, since the B350 board does support on-PCIE m2 SSD, would it be better to buy a m2 SSD or a normal Sata SSD?
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Hey guys, what's the difference between gtx1050, gtx1050ti and gtx1050 ti strix?

Is gtx1050ti strix good for gaming?

If I get gtx1050ti strix is i5 4460 good enough to pair with? or should I get i7 instead?

But read a few threads, they said for gaming rig shud hv priority of gpu instead of cpu. is that truth?

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Mar 21 2017, 10:25 AM)
Hi Bro,

thanks for the reply, good point! guess I will need the higher capacity SSD.

A question though, since the B350 board does support on-PCIE m2 SSD, would it be better to buy a m2 SSD or a normal Sata SSD?
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In terms of read/write performance between M2 SSD and SATA SSD, both are about the same but you will pay slightly more for the M2 (+RM20-30). So, it really is up to you.
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QUOTE(Kieln @ Mar 21 2017, 10:26 AM)
Hey guys, what's the difference between gtx1050, gtx1050ti and gtx1050 ti strix?

Is gtx1050ti strix good for gaming?

If I get gtx1050ti is i5 4460 good enough to pair with? or should I get i7 instead?

But read a few threads, they said for gaming rig shud hv priority of gpu instead of cpu. is that truth?
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GTX1050 and GTX1050Ti are two different GPU models from Nvidia while GTX1050Ti Strix is a customized GTX1050Ti from Asus.

GTX1050Ti is a low/mid end GPU, so pairing it with i5 is completely fine, not necessary need to get i7 and yes for gaming rig, focus more on GPU instead of CPU (this applies for all GPU below GTX1070).

GTX1050Ti Strix is very expensive, its price is very close to GTX1060 3GB from Palit and Zotac already, GTX1060 is roughly 50% ahead of GTX1050Ti in general so it is more worth to invest in GTX1060 3GB card than an expensive Asus Strix GTX1050Ti.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 21 2017, 10:32 AM)
In terms of read/write performance between M2 SSD and SATA SSD, both are about the same but you will pay slightly more for the M2 (+RM20-30). So, it really is up to you.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 21 2017, 10:32 AM)
GTX1050 and GTX1050Ti are two different GPU models from Nvidia while GTX1050Ti Strix is a customized GTX1050Ti from Asus.

GTX1050Ti is a low/mid end GPU, so pairing it with i5 is completely fine, not necessary need to get i7 and yes for gaming rig, focus more on GPU instead of CPU (this applies for all GPU below GTX1070).

GTX1050Ti Strix is very expensive, its price is very close to GTX1060 3GB from Palit and Zotac already, GTX1060 is roughly 50% ahead of GTX1050Ti in general so it is more worth to invest in GTX1060 3GB card than an expensive Asus Strix GTX1050Ti.
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But the Asus Strix GTX1050Ti come with 4gb. So is the performance better than GTX1060 3GB?

Also, what if I upgrade to i7? Will it improve the performance greatly or just slightly?
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QUOTE(Kieln @ Mar 21 2017, 10:36 AM)
But the Asus Strix GTX1050Ti come with 4gb. So is the performance better than GTX1060 3GB?

Also, what if I upgrade to i7? Will it improve the performance greatly or just slightly?
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VRAM doesn't directly impact the raw performance of the card, it is useful only when you need it, GTX1060 3GB is still a better pick than GTX1050Ti 4GB Strix version if you want more performance out of the box (as in higher frame rate) brows.gif

Switching from i5 to i7 doesn't benefit you at all if the games you play don't need that extra horsepower of i7, and you need to top up RM 500+ if you upgrade from i5 to i7, you better spend the money in a better GPU instead, at least it provides a better price/performance ratio in overall.

For example:
1. i5 + GTX1060 = 60 FPS in games
2. i7 + GTX1050Ti = 40 FPS in games

First option is clearly a better choice here.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 21 2017, 10:43 AM)
VRAM doesn't directly impact the raw performance of the card, it is useful only when you need it, GTX1060 3GB is still a better pick than GTX1050Ti 4GB Strix version if you want more performance out of the box (as in higher frame rate)  brows.gif

Switching from i5 to i7 doesn't benefit you at all if the games you play don't need that extra horsepower of i7, and you need to top up RM 500+ if you upgrade from i5 to i7, you better spend the money in a better GPU instead, at least it provides a better price/performance ratio in overall.

For example:
1. i5 + GTX1060 = 60 FPS in games
2. i7 + GTX1050Ti = 40 FPS in games

First option is clearly a better choice here.
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Does this means that if I have a i5 6600k + gtx 1070, I can play any game with ultra setting for my upcoming years?
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QUOTE(DozeMeWithTea @ Mar 21 2017, 10:46 AM)
Does this means that  if I have a i5 6600k + gtx 1070, I can play any game with ultra setting for my upcoming years?
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Not guaranteed, i5 is known to create CPU bottleneck when you pair it with a high end GPU (like GTX1070, 1080, 1080Ti etc) and run any CPU demanding titles like Watch Dogs 2, Hitman 2016, TC: GR Wildlands etc. Just make sure you overclock the 6600K to 4.xGHz to reduce the bottleneck as much as possible when the bottleneck strikes.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 21 2017, 10:43 AM)
VRAM doesn't directly impact the raw performance of the card, it is useful only when you need it, GTX1060 3GB is still a better pick than GTX1050Ti 4GB Strix version if you want more performance out of the box (as in higher frame rate)  brows.gif

Switching from i5 to i7 doesn't benefit you at all if the games you play don't need that extra horsepower of i7, and you need to top up RM 500+ if you upgrade from i5 to i7, you better spend the money in a better GPU instead, at least it provides a better price/performance ratio in overall.

For example:
1. i5 + GTX1060 = 60 FPS in games
2. i7 + GTX1050Ti = 40 FPS in games

First option is clearly a better choice here.
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Thanks for the clear explanation. smile.gif
Last question, what kind of game will required the horsepower of i7?
And I heard that i7 is mainly for video editing purposes?
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QUOTE(Kieln @ Mar 21 2017, 10:52 AM)
Thanks for the clear explanation.  smile.gif
Last question, what kind of game will required the horsepower of i7?
And I heard that i7 is mainly for video editing purposes?
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Terence already highlighted, any CPU demanding titles like Watch Dogs 2, Hitman 2016, TC: GR Wildlands etc.
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hi, just got an offer for my 1060 for a Zotac 980Ti AMP! in which i have to topup around 380, is it a good bargain ?
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 21 2017, 07:28 PM)
hi, just got an offer for my 1060 for a Zotac 980Ti AMP! in which i have to topup around 380, is it a good bargain ?
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GTX1060 6GB is around RM1300, GTX1070 can be found for around RM1750. I wouldn't pay topup that much for increased power consumption.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 21 2017, 07:35 PM)
GTX1060 6GB is around RM1300, GTX1070 can be found for around RM1750. I wouldn't pay topup that much for increased power consumption.
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i see, in terms of power consumption, sure 1070 win right, but still, no one would ever trade their 1070 for a 1060 with a topup of 380, haha, tqvm for the clarification icon_rolleyes.gif
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i see, in terms of power consumption, sure 1070 win right, but still, no one would ever trade their 1070 for a 1060 with a topup of 380, haha, tqvm for the clarification  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Leadex Super Flower Sliver 650W.

System components, i7-7700, B250M Mobo, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Samsung 850 Evo, Samsung 960 Pro, 1TB HDD, DVDRW ODD.

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QUOTE(Kieln @ Mar 21 2017, 10:52 AM)
And I heard that i7 is mainly for video editing purposes?
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People get i7 for video editing and rendering because it is much faster to process than i5 (and other lower end CPU), imagine you adjust the timeline in Premier Pro and have to wait for few seconds just for the playback on slower system, you will rage quit after awhile laugh.gif

QUOTE(Ergotism Prognosis @ Mar 21 2017, 03:52 PM)
Not sure if this is the rite thread.
Have anyone successfully hooked up a desktop gpu to dell inspiron 7559? Mine is i5 vrsyun. Couldn't​ find any verified success posted on net.
P/s: my googling skill not at same lvl as sifus.
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7559 doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 port so eGPU (external GPU) support isn't that easy to achieve, you will need to rely on the mini PCIe (either from WiFi card or SSD, please check the specs of your laptop to confirm) to connect to the eGPU and bear in mind that most of the mini PCIe slots run at a much slower transfer rate than desktop counterpart so bandwidth bottleneck is likely to happen when you connect your laptop with a high end GPU, and don't forget you need a PSU to power it up so it is definitely not an easy job (at least for now).

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 21 2017, 07:52 PM)
Good day to all, quick question can this PSU support a R9 390?

Leadex Super Flower Sliver 650W.

System components, i7-7700, B250M Mobo, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Samsung 850 Evo, Samsung 960 Pro, 1TB HDD, DVDRW ODD.

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 21 2017, 08:17 PM)
People get i7 for video editing and rendering because it is much faster to process than i5 (and other lower end CPU), imagine you adjust the timeline in Premier Pro and have to wait for few seconds just for the playback on slower system, you will rage quit after awhile  laugh.gif
7559 doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 port so eGPU (external GPU) support isn't that easy to achieve, you will need to rely on the mini PCIe (either from WiFi card or SSD, please check the specs of your laptop to confirm) to connect to the eGPU and bear in mind that most of the mini PCIe slots run at a much slower transfer rate than desktop counterpart so bandwidth bottleneck is likely to happen when you connect your laptop with a high end GPU, and don't forget you need a PSU to power it up so it is definitely not an easy job (at least for now).
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Thank You, tho not sure if worth spending money on a older gen GPU, then again they say AMD have Fine Wine laugh.gif
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hi sifu2 here
im planning to buy a new rig this weekend
purpose is for gaming
but budget is quite small, just rm2.5k..however this is excluding monitor
seek your advise on the best spec for this budget please
tq
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Hi. Recently my rig went kaput. The specs are:

AMD Athlon 4x 635 Processor
Asus M4N68-T Mobo
GTX580 GPU(Sent for diagnose)
1TB Samsung HDD
8GB Kingston Hyper fury X Ram
23" Samsung S23a350H (Faulty HDMI port, only VGA available)

I rarely use the PC, less than 10 hours per mth. I may spend more time gaming after the upgrade. My budget is around RM500 to RM1,500 for upgrade. I am thinking of buying a GTX1060 3GB mini but I am afraid that my CPU will substantially bottleneck the GPU. I do not mind used hardware as long as the price is great. PC usage for occasional 1080p DotA 2 gaming. Could any sifu here kindly recommendations or links? Ah, btw before I forget, is it better for me to repair my monitors' HDMI, buy a new monitor or stick with VGA for now? Thanks.




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Budget] 1k or 1.5k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] gtx 750ti, Mouse,Keyboard, Monitor, WiFi adapter.

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] League, and Chrome.

[Personal preferences] would love to have the mobo to be compatible for future i5 and Graphics card when I wanna update it. Approx 6 month from now?

[Location] Etech or Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(What Is This I Don't Even @ Mar 21 2017, 10:28 PM)
hi sifu2 here
im planning to buy a new rig this weekend
purpose is for gaming
but budget is quite small, just rm2.5k..however this is excluding monitor
seek your advise on the best spec for this budget please
tq
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Would be good to know what kind of games you play to establish whether they are GPU/CPU demanding or not. Here's something to consider:

CPU - Intel G4560 RM249
Mobo - Asus H110i-PLUS RM380
RAM - 8GB Kingston PC DDR4-2133 RM270
HDD - 1TB 7200rpm RM212
Case - Cooler Master Elite 110 RM189
PSU - Cooler Master Elite 550W RM235
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1050 2G D5 OC RM599

TOTAL - RM2134 based on C-Zone pricing

For better GPU, GIGABYTE GTX1050TI 4G D5 RM715
Add SSD, KINGSTON UV400 120GB RM239

This post has been edited by richard912: Mar 22 2017, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(What Is This I Don't Even @ Mar 21 2017, 10:28 PM)
hi sifu2 here
im planning to buy a new rig this weekend
purpose is for gaming
but budget is quite small, just rm2.5k..however this is excluding monitor
seek your advise on the best spec for this budget please
tq
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Mid and lower end AMD Ryzen is scheduled to be released next month, so this build is still based on Intel CPU and they are many possible builds for your budget, you didn't list out which games you are going to play so I'll just use a dual core i3 as reference, you may ditch the SSD and upgrade to i5 or even GTX1060 if you prefer to get something that is able to improve your gaming experience.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 260
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 234
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2507 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(piggy2008 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:11 AM)
Hi. Recently my rig went kaput. The specs are:

AMD Athlon 4x 635 Processor
Asus M4N68-T Mobo
GTX580 GPU(Sent for diagnose)
1TB Samsung HDD
8GB Kingston Hyper fury X Ram
23" Samsung S23a350H (Faulty HDMI port, only VGA available)

I rarely use the PC, less than 10 hours per mth. I may spend more time gaming after the upgrade. My budget is around RM500 to RM1,500 for upgrade. I am thinking of buying a GTX1060 3GB mini but I am afraid that my CPU will substantially bottleneck the GPU. I do not mind used hardware as long as the price is great. PC usage for occasional 1080p DotA 2 gaming. Could any sifu here kindly recommendations or links? Ah, btw before I forget, is it better for me to repair my monitors' HDMI, buy a new monitor or stick with VGA for now? Thanks.
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You don't need GTX1060 for 1080p Dota 2, GTX1050(or Ti) is more than enough to give you 60 FPS max settings in games (provided CPU is not the bottleneck). BTW, the performance of GTX1050Ti is quite similar to GTX580, no need to upgrade if it is still working (the problem is the GPU right?).

VGA is using analog signal and new GPU models ditched VGA since long time ago and switched to digital signal to provide a better display output quality. If you want to save money then you can just get an adapter, not necessary need to repair it since VGA is still able to output 1080p60 fairly well.

QUOTE(Xsence @ Mar 22 2017, 08:54 AM)
Budget] 1k or 1.5k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] gtx 750ti, Mouse,Keyboard, Monitor, WiFi adapter.

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] League, and Chrome.

[Personal preferences] would love to have the mobo to be compatible for future i5 and Graphics card when I wanna update it. Approx 6 month from now?

[Location] Etech or Kuala Lumpur
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Future i5? We aren't sure if Intel is going to re-use LGA1151 socket for their 8th gen CPU yet so this is hard to guarantee but rest assured it would be compatible with current gen i5 (6th and 7th).

Intel Pentium G4560 - RM 244
Asus H110M-D - RM 279
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 1341 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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[Budget] 7k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] Don't intend to overclock. 2 TB hard disk at least. GPU minimum 1060.

[Location] KL

Wondering if this is a good period to buy, or should wait a month or so for better bang for buck based on new releases?

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[Purpose] Extended monitor

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
CPU: Intel Core i5-6400
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
SSD: Adata 240GB SP500 Premier Pro
HDD: WD 3.5" 1TB Caviar Blue
RAM: Corsair Value Select DDR4 2132 8GB
MBD: Gigabyte H110M-DS2-CF
PSU: FSP Hexa+ 550W 80 Plus
Monitor: 22 Inch LED (details...)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Chroma v2
Mouse: DeathAdder Elite Chroma

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] The extended monitor can be several inch smaller or wider. My purpose is one monitor for gaming, another for movies and web browsing.

[Location] KL

Side note, need pro advice on my build. Anything seems wrong? Except the fact that my GPU is single fan from ZOTAC which I bought off at RM950

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 22 2017, 11:53 AM)
[Budget] 7k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] Don't intend to overclock. 2 GB hard disk at least. GPU minimum 1060.

[Location] KL

Wondering if this is a good period to buy, or should wait a month or so for better bang for buck based on new releases?
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CPU - Intel i5-7600 RM1002
MOBO - ASUS ROG STRIX H270F GAMING RM689
RAM - GSkill 2800C15 RIPJAWS V 2x8GB RM583
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 120GB RM286
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2TB RM313
GPU - ASUS GTX1070 8G D5 OC STRIX GAMING RM2649
PSU - Superflower Leader Silver 550W RM359
Case - Tecware Edge RM169

Total - RM6050 based on C-Zone prices

EDIT : Not sure what type of 1080p monitor you prefer but I listed 24" gaming monitors:
ACER XF240H -144Hz RM1199
BenQ XL2411Z -144Hz RM1199


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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Mar 22 2017, 02:07 PM)
[Budget] 600

[Purpose] Extended monitor

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
CPU: Intel Core i5-6400
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
SSD: Adata 240GB SP500 Premier Pro
HDD: WD 3.5" 1TB Caviar Blue
RAM: Corsair Value Select DDR4 2132 8GB
MBD: Gigabyte H110M-DS2-CF
PSU: FSP Hexa+ 550W 80 Plus
Monitor: 22 Inch LED (details...)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Chroma v2
Mouse: DeathAdder Elite Chroma

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] The extended monitor can be several inch smaller or wider. My purpose is one monitor for gaming, another for movies and web browsing.

[Location] KL

Side note, need pro advice on my build. Anything seems wrong? Except the fact that my GPU is single fan from ZOTAC which I bought off at RM950
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Your build looks okay. Note however that your existing 22" Samsung monitor don't have DVI nor HDMI input. You want to maintain this as your primary? For RM600, your choice will just be main stream 60Hz monitors eg ACER 24" KA241 (RM599). Since your existing Samsung is a 22", you could consider ACER 21.5" KA221Q (RM499). Note that both have DVI and HDMI inputs
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 22 2017, 11:53 AM)
[Budget] 7k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] Don't intend to overclock. 2 TB hard disk at least. GPU minimum 1060.

[Location] KL

Wondering if this is a good period to buy, or should wait a month or so for better bang for buck based on new releases?
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i7 7700 - 1449
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400 - 279 x2
MSI H270M-BAZOOKA - 514
Seagate 2TB - 319
Samsung EVO 850 250GB - 479
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR OC - 2049
FSP HEXA 550W - 199

Total (without Casing and Monitor) : 5567
Price quote from Viewnet.

Since this is not OC setup, budget PSU will do the work fine. You can change to other PSU that other suggested if u prefer others than this FSP. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:48 PM)
Your build looks okay. Note however that your existing 22" Samsung monitor don't have DVI nor HDMI input. You want to maintain this as your primary? For RM600, your choice will just be main stream 60Hz monitors eg ACER 24" KA241 (RM599). Since your existing Samsung is a 22", you could consider ACER 21.5" KA221Q (RM499). Note that both have DVI and HDMI inputs
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My existing samsung monitor has been following me since 4 years back, I will put this as secondary, other brands or models that you can recommend? Why only acer?

Side note, not sure how to extend monitor with desktop. It is easy with laptop but I never tried with desktop. Need some reference/guidance
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Hi, not sure is it the right place to ask,
bought a laptop with i3-6100U with 4gb ram,
would like to swap out its 500gb 5400rpm with a ssd,
any suggestion which brand/model to buy in terms of price/performance,
prolly a 120gb or 240gb variant

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 22 2017, 11:53 AM)
[Budget] 7k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA titles

[Personal preferences] Don't intend to overclock. 2 TB hard disk at least. GPU minimum 1060.

[Location] KL

Wondering if this is a good period to buy, or should wait a month or so for better bang for buck based on new releases?
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Armor OC - 2650
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD - 286
Seagate 2TB - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor (from Viewnet) - 639

RM6987 total (mostly C-Zone prices)

QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:15 PM)
CPU - Intel i5-7600 RM1002
MOBO - ASUS ROG STRIX H270F GAMING RM689
RAM - GSkill 2800C15 RIPJAWS V 2x8GB RM583
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 120GB RM286
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2TB RM313
GPU - ASUS GTX1070 8G D5 OC STRIX GAMING RM2649
PSU - Superflower Leader Silver 550W RM359
Case - Tecware Edge RM169

Total - RM6050 based on C-Zone prices

EDIT : Not sure what type of 1080p monitor you prefer but I listed 24" gaming monitors:
ACER XF240H -144Hz RM1199
BenQ XL2411Z -144Hz RM1199
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i5 bottlenecks GTX 1070.

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QUOTE(yh28 @ Mar 22 2017, 06:24 PM)
Hi, not sure is it the right place to ask,
bought a laptop with i3-6100U with 4gb ram,
would like to swap out its 500gb 5400rpm with a ssd,
any suggestion which brand/model to buy in terms of price/performance,
prolly a 120gb or 240gb variant
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I tend to have a bias towards Samsung 850 EVO SSD
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:15 PM)
CPU - Intel i5-7600 RM1002
MOBO - ASUS ROG STRIX H270F GAMING RM689
RAM - GSkill 2800C15 RIPJAWS V 2x8GB RM583
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 120GB RM286
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2TB RM313
GPU - ASUS GTX1070 8G D5 OC STRIX GAMING RM2649
PSU - Superflower Leader Silver 550W RM359
Case - Tecware Edge RM169

Total - RM6050 based on C-Zone prices

EDIT : Not sure what type of 1080p monitor you prefer but I listed 24" gaming monitors:
ACER XF240H -144Hz RM1199
BenQ XL2411Z -144Hz RM1199
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Mar 22 2017, 03:10 PM)
i7 7700 - 1449
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400 - 279 x2
MSI H270M-BAZOOKA - 514
Seagate 2TB - 319
Samsung EVO 850 250GB - 479
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR OC - 2049
FSP HEXA 550W - 199

Total (without Casing and Monitor) : 5567
Price quote from Viewnet.

Since this is not OC setup, budget PSU will do the work fine. You can change to other PSU that other suggested if u prefer others than this FSP.  thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 22 2017, 08:07 PM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Armor OC - 2650
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB SSD - 286
Seagate 2TB - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor (from Viewnet) - 639

RM6987 total (mostly C-Zone prices)
i5 bottlenecks GTX 1070.
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 22 2017, 09:01 AM)
Would be good to know what kind of games you play to establish whether they are GPU/CPU demanding or not. Here's something to consider:

CPU - Intel G4560 RM249
Mobo - Asus H110i-PLUS RM380
RAM - 8GB Kingston PC DDR4-2133 RM270
HDD - 1TB 7200rpm RM212
Case - Cooler Master Elite 110 RM189
PSU - Cooler Master Elite 550W RM235
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1050 2G D5 OC RM599

TOTAL - RM2134 based on C-Zone pricing

For better GPU, GIGABYTE GTX1050TI 4G D5 RM715
Add SSD, KINGSTON UV400 120GB RM239
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 22 2017, 09:17 AM)
Mid and lower end AMD Ryzen is scheduled to be released next month, so this build is still based on Intel CPU and they are many possible builds for your budget, you didn't list out which games you are going to play so I'll just use a dual core i3 as reference, you may ditch the SSD and upgrade to i5 or even GTX1060 if you prefer to get something that is able to improve your gaming experience.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 260
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 234
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2507 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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thanks alot for the suggestion
i prefer to play games such as fallout 4, gta v
may i know if dual core cpu is sufficient for these games, or shoud i get the i5?
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QUOTE(What Is This I Don't Even @ Mar 22 2017, 10:59 PM)
thanks alot for the suggestion
i prefer to play games such as fallout 4, gta v
may i know if dual core cpu is sufficient for these games, or shoud i get the i5?
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Those games you mentioned do take advantage of the extra cores, so yea i5 will give you a more stable frame rate and gaming experience.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 22 2017, 11:03 PM)
Those games you mentioned do take advantage of the extra cores, so yea i5 will give you a more stable frame rate and gaming experience.
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thanks for the advice
maybe i'll reuse my 1tb hdd from my old pc to save some budget for the i5
then i5 7400 should be ok rite?
do i need to change the psu and mobo that u suggested earlier to cater for the cpu?
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Mar 22 2017, 05:35 PM)
My existing samsung monitor has been following me since 4 years back, I will put this as secondary, other brands or models that you can recommend? Why only acer?

Side note, not sure how to extend monitor with desktop. It is easy with laptop but I never tried with desktop. Need some reference/guidance
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It's 24 inch 1080p IPS panel monitor.
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thanks for the advice
maybe i'll reuse my 1tb hdd from my old pc to save some budget for the i5
then i5 7400 should be ok rite?
do i need to change the psu and mobo that u suggested earlier to cater for the cpu?
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The earlier suggested mobos are all socket 1151 so, no need to change.
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Hi. Recently my rig went kaput. The specs are:

AMD Athlon 4x 635 Processor
Asus M4N68-T Mobo
GTX580 GPU(Sent for diagnose. Dotting on latest drivers. Blank screen on old drivers. No problem with display when in safe mode or bios or at windows starting screen. I think it may be software issue)
1TB Samsung HDD
8GB Kingston Hyper fury X Ram
23" Samsung S23a350H (Faulty HDMI port, only VGA available)

I rarely use the PC, less than 10 hours per mth. I may spend more time gaming after the upgrade. My budget is around RM500 to RM1,500 for upgrade. I am thinking of buying a GTX1060 3GB mini but I am afraid that my CPU will substantially bottleneck the GPU. I do not mind used hardware as long as the price is great. PC usage for occasional 1080p DotA 2 gaming. Could any sifu here kindly recommendations or links? Ah, btw before I forget, is it better for me to repair my monitors' HDMI, buy a new monitor or stick with VGA for now? Thanks.
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I came across an AMD A10 7850k and FM2A88X+ Killer selling for RM500. Since my GPU is not working, I was thinking of buying this as a replacement. Is the price and performance any good? I may consider buying the R9 380X tomorrow to combo with this APU. Will the APU iGPU increase the FPS of external GPU? Will there be huge bottlenecks? Sorry, I do not understand much about APU. blush.gif

By the way, if I were to sell all my old hardwares except for HDD and RAM, how much do you think I should price them? The issues with the hardwares are stated above. Thank you in advance.

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I came across an AMD A10 7850k and FM2A88X+ Killer selling for RM500. Since my GPU is not working, I was thinking of buying this as a replacement. Is the price and performance any good? I may consider buying the R9 380X tomorrow to combo with this APU. Will the APU iGPU increase the FPS of external GPU? Will there be huge bottlenecks? Sorry, I do not understand much about APU. blush.gif

By the way, if I were to sell all my old hardwares except for HDD and RAM, how much do you think I should price them? The issues with the hardwares are stated above. Thank you in advance.
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You can estimate potential bottleneck using this online tool. On pricing of your stuff, research in Garage Sale section to get some ideas
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QUOTE(piggy2008 @ Mar 23 2017, 10:21 AM)
I came across an AMD A10 7850k and FM2A88X+ Killer selling for RM500. Since my GPU is not working, I was thinking of buying this as a replacement. Is the price and performance any good? I may consider buying the R9 380X tomorrow to combo with this APU. Will the APU iGPU increase the FPS of external GPU? Will there be huge bottlenecks? Sorry, I do not understand much about APU. blush.gif

By the way, if I were to sell all my old hardwares except for HDD and RAM, how much do you think I should price them? The issues with the hardwares are stated above. Thank you in advance.
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APU of iGPU will not increase the FPS of dedicated GPU unless you go for the hybrid crossfire which is only available on few selected low end R7 series GPU, the performance after crossfire might not be able to beat a R9 380X after all so just forget about this.

For RM 500, you better go with new G4560 + H110 mobo (cost the same) or used i3 or even i5 which all of them roll over the performance of the aged A10 7850K.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 23 2017, 10:57 AM)
APU of iGPU will not increase the FPS of dedicated GPU unless you go for the hybrid crossfire which is only available on few selected low end R7 series GPU, the performance after crossfire might not be able to beat a R9 380X after all so just forget about this.

For RM 500, you better go with new G4560 + H110 mobo (cost the same) or used i3 or even i5 which all of them roll over the performance of the aged A10 7850K.
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Thanks for your suggestion! thumbup.gif

I've did some searching but could not find people selling similar hardware such as mine so I could not determine the price. Could anyone provide a rough estimate or guess of how much I should price my old hardwares.

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Hi guys,

I am looking for a pc system to power up a 2x2HDTV video wall. My budget is about RM2k.

Screen resolution for 2x2 video wall should be 3840x2140 thus the eyefinity from RED team is more preferable at the moment.

Any suggestion for the system?

i3 7100
Motherboard?
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normal casing

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QUOTE(piggy2008 @ Mar 23 2017, 12:02 PM)
Thanks for your suggestion! thumbup.gif

I've did some searching but could not find people selling similar hardware such as mine so I could not determine the price. Could anyone provide a rough estimate or guess of how much I should price my old hardwares.
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This specs right?

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AMD Athlon 4x 635 Processor
Asus M4N68-T Mobo
GTX580 GPU(Sent for diagnose)
1TB Samsung HDD
8GB Kingston Hyper fury X Ram
23" Samsung S23a350H (Faulty HDMI port, only VGA available)
Not much you can get from selling off your parts, mostly < RM 200 (if lucky) for CPU and mobo, GPU is not included since it is sent for checking, same goes to HDD, RAM and monitor where you can re-use them in your next build.

QUOTE(sodap0p @ Mar 23 2017, 02:22 PM)
Hi guys,

I am looking for a pc system to power up a 2x2HDTV video wall. My budget is about RM2k.

Screen resolution for 2x2 video wall should be 3840x2140 thus the eyefinity from RED team is more preferable at the moment.

Any suggestion for the system?

i3 7100
Motherboard?
GC: R9 380x
8gb Ram
1TB HD or 128gb SSD
reliable 450-500W power supply
normal casing
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So it is 4 FHD TV combine together and become 3840 x 2160 right?

Just get a cheap H110 mobo and call it a day since nothing special on the mobo requirement side.


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Hi all,

Looking to buy a full setup for a friend's dad.

[Budget] <RM2500

[Purpose] web browsing, word processing, movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none. would need to buy everything

[Monitor resolution] should be possible to get 24" 1980x1080 right?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] chrome, word, media player, etc.

[Personal preferences] I'm not sure if there's a need for a dedicated gpu, but if possible can suggest a setup with room for upgrade in the future (gpu, ssd, ram slots)

[Location] KL

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 23 2017, 08:20 AM)
The earlier suggested mobos are all socket 1151 so, no need to change.
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[Purpose] Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO, F1, Battlefield, PES/Fifa

[Personal preferences] None

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QUOTE(mechaweirdxe @ Mar 23 2017, 08:13 PM)
Hi all,

Looking to buy a full setup for a friend's dad.

[Budget] <RM2500

[Purpose] web browsing, word processing, movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none. would need to buy everything

[Monitor resolution] should be possible to get 24" 1980x1080 right?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] chrome, word, media player, etc.

[Personal preferences] I'm not sure if there's a need for a dedicated gpu, but if possible can suggest a setup with room for upgrade in the future (gpu, ssd, ram slots)

[Location] KL

Thanks!
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Definitely not a budget for getting i5. 2017 prices isn't budget friendly.

How about these?

Core i3-7100 - 518
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
WD Blue 1TB (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa case - 169
LG 24MP68VQ 24" monitor - 562
Edifier M1335 2.1 speakers - 137
Logitech MK100 mouse and keyboard - 49 (from Viewnet)

RM2440 total (mostly C-Zone prices)

QUOTE(Puteih @ Mar 23 2017, 11:21 PM)
[B][Budget] <RM2500

[Purpose] Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] CSGO, F1, Battlefield, PES/Fifa

[Personal preferences] None

[Location] KL
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How about these?

Core i5-7400 - 790
Asus H110M-K - 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1050 2GB DDR5 - 599
WD Blue 1TB (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa case - 169

RM2557 total (C-Zone prices)

If you are gaming on 1080p, I suggest you increase your budget. 2017 prices isn't budget friendly.

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[Hardwares that will be re-use] 3.5" HDD 1tb WD Green, 256GB HyperX SSD, kb+🐁

[Monitor resolution]1080p 21.5">

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Typical AAA Games

[Personal preferences] Portable mini Pc Casing, CM110. May reuse CPU to upgrade my GPU to GTX1070/ new AMD GPU in the future (within 6 months).

[Location] KL(prefer online purchase)

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Dear all, feel that my old pc become slower.
Phenom x4 955
Asus M4A785TDV-EVO
Ram 2 x 4g
Radeon 5870
Huntkey 80master 700w

Not really a gamer, only play starcraft 2,most of the time office/surfing/photoshop. Can I change the CPU/Motherboard/Ram and use back my GPU?

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 24 2017, 01:43 PM)
[Budget] <3k

[Purpose] Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 3.5" HDD 1tb WD Green, 256GB HyperX SSD, kb+🐁

[Monitor resolution]1080p 21.5">

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Typical AAA Games

[Personal preferences] Portable mini Pc Casing, CM110. May reuse CPU to upgrade my GPU to GTX1070/ new AMD GPU in the future (within 6 months).

[Location] KL(prefer online purchase)
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Since you are planning to upgrade the GPU to GTX1070 (or AMD equivalent if got) in the near future, i7 is recommended so you can re-use in your next upgrade as i5 bottlenecks the GTX1070 in some CPU demanding titles (especially few recent triple A titles). But unfortunately your budget cannot fit an i7 yet, if you were to get an i7 now then you will have to rely on a low end GPU for gaming, the next available option is to wait for the cheaper AMD Ryzen 5 and their respective X300/A/B300 SFF mobo to reach Malaysia first before you make the purchase.

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
SSD re-use
HDD re-use
Superflower Leadex Silver 650W - RM 399
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 3006 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(hihi @ Mar 24 2017, 02:47 PM)
Dear all, feel that my old pc become slower.
Phenom x4 955
Asus M4A785TDV-EVO
Ram 2 x 4g
Radeon 5870
Huntkey 80master 700w

Not really a gamer, only play starcraft 2,most of the time office/surfing/photoshop. Can I change the CPU/Motherboard/Ram and use back my GPU?
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Sure.
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should i get ryzen 1700 or i7 7700k? 8C/16T vs 4C/8T

a bit gaming, mostly use for work (multitasking & virtualization)
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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Mar 24 2017, 08:17 PM)
should i get ryzen 1700 or i7 7700k? 8C/16T vs 4C/8T

a bit gaming, mostly use for work (multitasking & virtualization)
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Ryzen should be better for you since you don't play games much.
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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Mar 24 2017, 08:17 PM)
should i get ryzen 1700 or i7 7700k? 8C/16T vs 4C/8T

a bit gaming, mostly use for work (multitasking & virtualization)
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Since it is mostly for work, having more cores will be better
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Ryzen should be better for you since you don't play games much.
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Since it is mostly for work, having more cores will be better
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ok thanks, will get ryzen 7. smile.gif

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Guys, I think I've lost my mind. I've just purchased a GTX 980 in the middle of the night without thinking straight..., my current specs are:

AMD Athlon 4x635
Asus M4N68-T
1TB Samsung SATA HDD
8GB DDR3 Kingston Hyper FuryX​
500W PSU
Samsung S23a350H (Only VGA working)

I am expecting huge bottlenecks. Ryzen i5 coming out soon right?
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QUOTE(piggy2008 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:42 AM)
Guys, I think I've lost my mind. I've just purchased a GTX 980 in the middle of the night without thinking straight..., my current specs are:

AMD Athlon 4x635
Asus M4N68-T
1TB Samsung SATA HDD
8GB DDR3 Kingston Hyper FuryX​
500W PSU
Samsung S23a350H (Only VGA working)

I am expecting huge bottlenecks. Ryzen i5 coming out soon right?
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[Personal preferences] Require monitor. Not overclocking.

[Location] KL
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QUOTE(Distortion @ Mar 25 2017, 10:57 AM)
[Budget] RM 5000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution]

[Personal preferences] Require monitor. Not overclocking.

[Location] KL
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
WD Blue (7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor (from Viewnet) - 639

RM4940 total (mostly C-Zone prices)

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 25 2017, 11:27 AM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
MSI GTX 1060 8GB DDR5 T OC - 130
WD Blue (7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299
Acer R241Y 23.8" monitor (from Viewnet) - 639

RM4940 total (mostly C-Zone prices)
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Your GPU model and price got mistake. Are you mean GTX 1060 6GB - 1300?
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QUOTE(Distortion @ Mar 25 2017, 10:57 AM)
[Budget] RM 5000

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution]

[Personal preferences] Require monitor. Not overclocking.

[Location] KL
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Not much information is provided (games you play, preferences etc.) so you'll have many possibilities on the build, this is just one of the examples.

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - RM 419
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 275
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1319
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA SSD - RM 464
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
ViewSonic VA2419-SH IPS - RM 525

Total: RM 4821 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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Your GPU model and price got mistake. Are you mean GTX 1060 6GB - 1300?
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 24 2017, 01:43 PM)
[Budget] <3k

[Purpose] Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 3.5" HDD 1tb WD Green, 256GB HyperX SSD, kb+🐁

[Monitor resolution]1080p 21.5">

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Typical AAA Games

[Personal preferences] Portable mini Pc Casing, CM110. May reuse CPU to upgrade my GPU to GTX1070/ new AMD GPU in the future (within 6 months).

[Location] KL(prefer online purchase)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 24 2017, 03:13 PM)
Since you are planning to upgrade the GPU to GTX1070 (or AMD equivalent if got) in the near future, i7 is recommended so you can re-use in your next upgrade as i5 bottlenecks the GTX1070 in some CPU demanding titles (especially few recent triple A titles). But unfortunately your budget cannot fit an i7 yet, if you were to get an i7 now then you will have to rely on a low end GPU for gaming, the next available option is to wait for the cheaper AMD Ryzen 5 and their respective X300/A/B300 SFF mobo to reach Malaysia first before you make the purchase.

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 8GB 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 989
SSD re-use
HDD re-use
Superflower Leadex Silver 650W - RM 399
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 3006 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
Sure.
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Ok thank for the suggestion. So let's say I want to make a PC rig that's able to play high on latest AAA games and ultra on older AAA games temporarily with RX460 only, what's the best alternatives? I'll get new CPU+GPU in the future if I'm capable of that, meanwhile I'll stick with RX460. Also, RM3k budget including monitor, so it's around Rm2.5k left for PC rig.
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Ok thank for the suggestion. So let's say I want to make a PC rig that's able to play high on latest AAA games and ultra on older AAA games temporarily with RX460 only, what's the best alternatives? I'll get new CPU+GPU in the future if I'm capable of that, meanwhile I'll stick with RX460. Also, RM3k budget including monitor, so it's around Rm2.5k left for PC rig.
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If you decided to use RX460 only then you need to expect the FPS to be much lower than higher end card, if you go this way then you can get a speedy CPU first like i7 or Ryzen 5.


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QUOTE(Distortion @ Mar 25 2017, 10:57 AM)
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[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution]

[Personal preferences] Require monitor. Not overclocking.

[Location] KL
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Some people here who recommend an i7 7700 is kinda a joke.. or of course on intel payroll (not accusing anyone but this is a known intel tactic, they actually have shills).

get a Ryzen 1700. wait for mobos to restock.
AMDs new chips absolutely annihilates intel overpriced parts.

some will jump in and say "btut but but intel is faster for gaming".. yea.. with the scheduler issue (which is being sorted) the i7 is faster by what? 3 fps in some games?.. eg intel is 103fps, amd is 100fps (look at the numbers, the Ryzen chips can play ANY game at ultra quality at 80fps++) and we are talking 1080p. Higher res the Ryzen pulls ahead.
All other tasks, Ryzen goes circles around that i7.. this is a chip that compares to intels RM7000+ 6950X, just open skype and chrome with in background while gaming and see that 4core/8thread i7 struggle to keep consistent fps.

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QUOTE(newlyjoined @ Mar 25 2017, 09:22 PM)
Some people here who recommend an i7 7700 is kinda a joke.. or of course on intel payroll (not accusing anyone but this is a known intel tactic, they actually have shills).

get a Ryzen 1700. wait for mobos to restock.
AMDs new chips absolutely annihilates intel overpriced parts.

some will jump in and say "btut but but intel is faster for gaming".. yea.. with the scheduler issue (which is being sorted) the i7 is faster by what? 3 fps in some games?.. eg intel is 103fps, amd is 100fps (look at the numbers, the Ryzen chips can play ANY game at ultra quality at 80fps++) and we are talking 1080p. Higher res the Ryzen pulls ahead.
All other tasks, Ryzen goes circles around that i7.. this is a chip that compares to intels RM7000+ 6950X, just open skype and chrome with in background while gaming and see that 4core/8thread i7 struggle to keep consistent fps.
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Like you said, motherboards. You are forgetting games that favor Intel.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1348-amd-ry...ng-performance/
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 25 2017, 09:51 PM)
You recommended an i7 7700. The ryzen is more than twice as fast for relatively same cost. Twice as fast man.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel...1700/3887vs3917

How can that ever be a sane recommendation?
I was at lowyat plaza last weekend and MBs should be coming in any day now..

All consoles are running 8 core AMD chips and developers are taking multi-threading more seriously, Vulkan is getting foothold and considered as a serious alternative to DX (vulkan is good at multi-core scaling)... we are heading towards 1440p and 4k resolutions. The 7700 will struggle in less than a year.

And a guy who's ready to spend 5k on a PC, you tell him to buy a 7700? As in he needs the PC tonight and cant wait a week or so for AM4 motherboards to arrive?

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QUOTE(newlyjoined @ Mar 25 2017, 10:05 PM)
You recommended an i7 7700. The ryzen is more than twice as fast for relatively same cost. Twice as fast man.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel...1700/3887vs3917

How can that ever be a sane recommendation?
I was at lowyat plaza last weekend and MBs should be coming in any day now..

All consoles are running 8 core AMD chips and developers are taking multi-threading more seriously, Vulkan is getting foothold and considered as a serious alternative to DX (vulkan is good at multi-core scaling)... we are heading towards 1440p and 4k resolutions. The 7700 will struggle in less than a year.

And a guy who's ready to spend 5k on a PC, you tell him to buy a 7700? As in he needs the PC tonight and cant wait a week or so for AM4 motherboards to arrive?
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LOL. Twice as fast. Dream on.

We look at price list everyday. There is still no budget motherboards available.
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LOL. Twice as fast. Dream on.

We look at price list everyday. There is still no budget motherboards available.
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"We" ? whos we? the intel damage control team or the staff of some shop that sold out ryzen chips and trying to clear out dead-in-the-water overpriced intel stock?

Anyways.. to person with 5k budget or anyone else, don't ask for suggestions here only.. pls look online and search the web and make an informed decision.

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"We" ? whos we? the intel damage control team or the staff of some shop that sold out ryzen chips and trying to clear out dead-in-the-water overpriced intel stock?

Anyways.. to person with 5k budget or anyone else, don't ask for suggestions here only.. pls look online and search the web and make an informed decision.

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Clearly you hate intel. What makes you think Intel damage control team is here? AMD has been providing crap for a decade.

And the CPU reviews has been provided as well. Synthetic benchmark never tells you the whole story. Real world does. Ryzen is great, only when budget motherboards arrives.

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Can suggest me an amd processor equivalent or almost on par with i5 6400@6500 6th gen/7th gen and motherboard that compatible with it?

Pairing with 8gb ram and gtx 1060 6gb.
Playing dota, cs, witcher, darksider, watch dogs.
Monitor 1080p.

Budget for both are below 1k.. Lowest are preferred.
I know ryzen are coming but its am4 mobo are out of my budget already. Haha..
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Clearly you hate intel. What makes you think Intel damage control team is here? AMD has been providing crap for a decade.

And the CPU reviews has been provided as well. Synthetic benchmark never tells you the whole story. Real world does. Ryzen is great, only when budget motherboards arrives.
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Hate? Nah I don't invest emotions in a company.

What I dislike is when people give wrong advise to others. Maybe when those giving advise don't know better, then no blame. But when they are an "Elite" who are clearly technically competent, then thats disturbing.

You say dream on when I say its double the speed? IT IS twice as fast, look at the multi-core scores, the Ryzen is 95% faster. Thats twice as fast.

It just makes absolutely no sense that one would invest in (or advice another) to get a 4c/8T overpriced CPU when an alternative that is the same price, twice as fast and far more future-proof is available.

It starts to make sense when you consider that intel has been caught red handed with dirty tactics and manipulation (and paid 1.2 billion after court ruling).

That is what makes me think Intel team is here. Some reviewers online (in US and elsewhere) had Intel call them and say "Email us before writing Ryzen reviewes"[1], they provided "Ryzen questions and how to answer them". Just absolutely disgusting.

This is a company that makes rigged compilers to favor their CPUs, it has been milking the world over new "generations" that are basically the exact same thing since sandy bridge. Now we finally have a viable alternative, an alternative that is not only cheaper but far superior, and yet you tell people to buy the i7 7700 and keep arguing with me over motherboards that will arrive in a week?

How can they not have shills here in the most popular tech forum in Malaysia?

[1] https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-is-...zen-launch.html

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Hate? Nah I don't invest emotions in a company.

What I dislike is when people give wrong advise to others. Maybe when those giving advise don't know better, then no blame. But when they are an "Elite" who are clearly technically competent, then thats disturbing.

You say dream on when I say its double the speed? IT IS twice as fast, look at the multi-core scores, the Ryzen is 95% faster. Thats twice as fast.

It just makes absolutely no sense that one would invest in (or advice another) to get a 4c/8T overpriced CPU when an alternative that is the same price, twice as fast and far more future-proof is available.

It starts to make sense when you consider that intel has been caught red handed with dirty tactics and manipulation (and paid 1.2 billion after court ruling).

That is what makes me think Intel team is here. Some reviewers online (in US and elsewhere) had Intel call them and say "Email us before writing Ryzen reviewes"[1], they provided "Ryzen questions and how to answer them". Just absolutely disgusting.

This is a company that makes rigged compilers to favor their CPUs, it has been milking the world over new "generations" that are basically the exact same thing since sandy bridge. Now we finally have a viable alternative, an alternative that is not only cheaper but far superior, and yet you tell people to buy the i7 7700 and keep arguing with me over motherboards that will arrive in a week?

How can they not have shills here in the most popular tech forum in Malaysia?

[1] https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-is-...zen-launch.html
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Nice one dodging the fact that there is no budget motherboards available. And a week... Heard that before like weeks already. So you want people to buy Ryzen with expensive motherboard and using slower graphics cards?

And again, more cores doesn't always makes it faster.

Real world benchmarks is always the thing. Do you want me to spoonfeed you with tons of real world benchmarks again?

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Nice one dodging the fact that there is no budget motherboards available. And a week... Heard that before like weeks already.  So you want people to buy Ryzen with expensive motherboard and using slower graphics cards?

And again, more cores doesn't always makes it faster.

Real world benchmarks is always the thing. Do you want me to spoonfeed you with tons of real world benchmarks again?
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No, allow me, here's a side-to-side comparison of Ryzen 1700 vs i7 7700k (in games only):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVIPo_qbc4&t=0s
Look at the fps.

Isn't it strange? When intel was faster, people quote benchmarks as viable, and disregard arguments that say "AMD is not as fast, but it plays games just as good".

Now the tide changed, AMD benchmark scores match and beat the most expensive i7s, but wait, the same people who used the argument above, flipped it! Now they say "look at real world, benchmarks dont matter."

Real world is EXACTLY my point.. but wait, Ryzen is not only faster in real world (and handles multi-tasking much better due to more cores), but its also faster than an i7 6900k in benchmarks too.

I watched all the reviews I need, and I encourage everyone to watch youtube vids from reputable unbiased people before deciding what to buy.

For the love of god people, you have your hard earned money, spend an hour or so to find out what to buy instead of asking here and having shops salesmen or corporate shills tell you what to buy.
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No, allow me, here's a side-to-side comparison of Ryzen 1700 vs i7 7700k (in games only):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVIPo_qbc4&t=0s
Look at the fps.

Isn't it strange? When intel was faster, people quote benchmarks as viable, and disregard arguments that say "AMD is not as fast, but it plays games just as good".

Now the tide changed, AMD benchmark scores match and beat the most expensive i7s, but wait, the same people who used the argument above, flipped it! Now they say "look at real world, benchmarks dont matter."

Real world is EXACTLY my point.. but wait, Ryzen is not only faster in real world (and handles multi-tasking much better due to more cores), but its also faster than an i7 6900k in benchmarks too.

I watched all the reviews I need, and I encourage everyone to watch youtube vids from reputable unbiased people before deciding what to buy.

For the love of god people, you have your hard earned money, spend an hour or so to find out what to buy instead of asking here and having shops salesmen or corporate shills tell you what to buy.
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So, that's only one you found. You are saying more than 10 press are biased?

Oh, overclocking comes at a price as well. More expensive motherboards and better heatsink....

So you want to tell someone with 5k budget to have those huh?
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Thats another suspicious sign folks. You show mathematical logic with clear winning numbers, but they keep coming back with nonsense.

When cornered they write short replies with questions in confident language. For two reasons:
1. to waste time of those who try to show them for what they really are. And:
2. to fool the masses that their points have validity.
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Thats another suspicious sign folks. You show mathematical logic with clear winning numbers, but they keep coming back with nonsense.

When cornered they write short replies with questions in confident language. For two reasons:
1. to waste time of those who try to show them for what they really are. And:
2. to fool the masses that their points have validity.
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Yeah, getting rolled over again for at least the 3rd time. Make yourself useful and stop posting nonsense. Unless you want admins looking for you to use their "special" button.
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For final stage, self-claimed "victory" as to some this was never about showing whats right or wrong (in our case whats the best value for people's money), but rather it was about "winning an argument".

..and, ending it with a threat about special buttons.

Textbook example.
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QUOTE(suju2403 @ Mar 26 2017, 12:14 PM)
Can suggest me an amd processor equivalent or almost on par with i5 6400@6500 6th gen/7th gen and motherboard that compatible with it?

Pairing with 8gb ram and gtx 1060 6gb.
Playing dota, cs, witcher, darksider, watch dogs.
Monitor 1080p.

Budget for both are below 1k.. Lowest are preferred.
I know ryzen are coming but its am4 mobo are out of my budget already.  Haha..
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The R3 series will be equivalent to i5, to compete with i3. It is possible to get both the processor and motherboard under 1K, considering AM4 boards are quite cheap. smile.gif

Sadly, it hasn't arrived yet. Wait for the announcement.

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For final stage, self-claimed "victory" as to some this was never about showing whats right or wrong (in our case whats the best value for people's money), but rather it was about "winning an argument".

..and, ending it with a threat about special buttons.

Textbook example.
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Why u r so triggered man?? I didnt see anything wrong with i7-7700 build. Clearly intel is still better choice than ryzen if u talking about gaming right now

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[Budget] <3k including monitor

[Purpose] Mainly for gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 3.5" HDD 1tb WD Green, 256GB HyperX SSD, kb+mouse

[Monitor resolution]1080p 21.5">

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Typical AAA Games, old ones and new ones

[Personal preferences] Portable mini Pc Casing, CM110. Able to play games on high settings smoothly, 30 fps minimum.

[Location] KL(prefer physical store if buy within this week/online purchase)
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If you decided to use RX460 only then you need to expect the FPS to be much lower than higher end card, if you go this way then you can get a speedy CPU first like i7 or Ryzen 5.
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With my current budget, should I wait AMD Ryzen to arrive then only I proceed to build my PCt? I'm thinking of getting my PC built within a week, maximum I can wait is 2 weeks. Please suggest on what parts should i get for my PC again since I had revised it. Now I will only focus on bulding 2.5k PC Rigs for the meantime, I will upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time in the future.
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QUOTE(mosty @ Mar 26 2017, 04:35 PM)
Why u r so triggered man?? I didnt see anything wrong with i7-7700 build. Clearly intel is still better choice than ryzen if u talking about gaming right now
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Trist... ops I mean mosty, pls (re)read my replies above? smile.gif
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With my current budget, should I wait AMD Ryzen to arrive then only I proceed to build my PCt? I'm thinking of getting my PC built within a week, maximum I can wait is 2 weeks. Please suggest on what parts should i get for my PC again since I had revised it. Now I will only focus on bulding 2.5k PC Rigs for the meantime, I will upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time in the future.
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If you can afford to wait, wait. You have nothing to lose waiting for the Ryzen 5. However, not sure of the Malaysian pricing yet though. Rumors have it that price of the Ryzen 5 will start from US$169 for Ryzen 5 1400 to US$249 for a Ryzen 1600X
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With my current budget, should I wait AMD Ryzen to arrive then only I proceed to build my PCt? I'm thinking of getting my PC built within a week, maximum I can wait is 2 weeks. Please suggest on what parts should i get for my PC again since I had revised it. Now I will only focus on bulding 2.5k PC Rigs for the meantime, I will upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time in the future.
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If 2 weeks is the max limit, then just pick Intel CPU, Ryzen 3 and 5 are scheduled to reach by 11/04 while their mITX mobo are yet to have any confirmed release date, not really worth to wait if you are in a rush.
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Hi guys

Gonna need your great suggestion again.

[Budget]
2k-2.5k

[Purpose]
Gaming rig and watching movie.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Keyboard and mouse is the only one reuse.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p. Any inch, as long it fits with the budget.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Most of the time playing Path of Exile or heroes of the storm.

[Personal preferences]
Nothing much. Drive is not really required. Need monitor though.

[Location]
Selangor, Damansara.

Thanks guys.

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QUOTE(Nshade @ Mar 26 2017, 05:25 PM)
Hi guys

Gonna need your great suggestion again.

[Budget]
2k-2.5k

[Purpose]
Gaming rig and watching movie.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Keyboard and mouse is the only one reuse.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p. Any inch, as long it fits with the budget.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Most of the time playing Path of Exile or heroes of the storm.

[Personal preferences]
Nothing much. Drive is not really required. Need monitor though.

[Location]
Selangor, Damansara.

Thanks guys.
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Both the games you listed don't appear to be too demanding in terms of system requirement. You could consider this:

CPU - Intel G4560 RM249
MOBO - ASUS H110M-K RM279
RAM - KINGSTON D4 PC2133 8GB RM270
SSD -
HDD - 1TB 7200 Seagate Barracuda RM212
PSU - Thermaltake LitePower 550W RM199
Case - Techware F3 RM124
GPU - ASUS GTX1050 2G GDDR5 PH RM599
Monitor - 21.5" LG 22MP48HQ RM408

Total - RM2340 C-zone price

You could consider adding a PNY CS1311 SSD 120GB for RM233
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RM 3000 - RM 4000

[Purpose]
Gaming, HD movies, etc

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Already have mouse, keyboard, speaker and monitor

[Monitor resolution]
1920 x 1080p (ViewSonic VA2419-sh)

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
League of Legends
CSGO
D2
Dragon Age series
The Witcher series
Tomb Raider 2013 and Rise of Tomb Raider

[Personal preferences]
Not much really, first time building own pc
preferably a rig that can support more recent games as I plan to play them (Overwatch/Dark Souls 3 etc)
planning to get it towards the second half of 2017, just need a rough plan so I can aim for it

[Location]
Selangor

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QUOTE(DeathShadow @ Mar 26 2017, 05:53 PM)
[Budget]
RM 3000 - RM 4000

[Purpose]
Gaming, HD movies, etc

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Already have mouse, keyboard, speaker and monitor

[Monitor resolution]
1920 x 1080p (ViewSonic VA2419-sh)

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
League of Legends
CSGO
D2
Dragon Age series
The Witcher series
Tomb Raider 2013 and Rise of Tomb Raider

[Personal preferences]
Not much really, first time building own pc
preferably a rig that can support more recent games as I plan to play them (Overwatch/Dark Souls 3 etc)
planning to get it towards the second half of 2017, just need a rough plan so I can aim for it

[Location]
Selangor
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CPU - Intel i5 7400 RM790
MOBO - GIGABYTE B250M-HD3 RM409
RAM - KINGSTON D4 PC2133 8GB RM270
SSD - PNY CS1311 SSD 120GB RM233
HDD - 1TB 7200 Seagate Barracuda RM212
PSU - Corsair VS550W RM248
Case - Techware F3 RM124
GPU - MSI GTX1060 6G D5 T OC RM1300
Monitor - ViewSonic VA2419-sh RM499

Total RM4085 C-zone price

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 26 2017, 07:03 PM)
CPU - Intel i5 7400 RM790
MOBO - GIGABYTE B250M-HD3 RM409
RAM - KINGSTON D4 PC2133 8GB RM270
SSD - PNY CS1311 SSD 120GB RM233
HDD - 1TB 7200 Seagate Barracuda RM212
PSU - Corsair VS550W RM248
Case - Techware F3 RM124
GPU - MSI GTX1060 6G D5 T OC RM1300
Monitor - ViewSonic VA2419-sh RM499

Total RM4085 C-zone price
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I already own the monitor, any changes to the build if I exclude the purchase of the monitor? Thanks!
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I already own the monitor, any changes to the build if I exclude the purchase of the monitor? Thanks!
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CPU - Intel i5 7500 RM880
MOBO - GIGABYTE B250M-HD3 RM409
RAM - KINGSTON D4 PC2133 8GB RM270
SSD - Samsung EVO 250GB RM482
HDD - 1TB 7200 Seagate Barracuda RM212
PSU - Corsair VS550W RM248
Case - Techware F3 RM124
GPU - MSI GTX1060 6G D5 T OC RM1300

Total RM3925
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The R3 series will be equivalent to i5, to compete with i3. It is possible to get both the processor and motherboard under 1K, considering AM4 boards are quite cheap. smile.gif

Sadly, it hasn't arrived yet. Wait for the announcement.
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Oic.. Saw some o9 shop selling around rm400.. Cheapest ryzen 5 already rm800++..

Need to wait longer then to see if there is budget am4 mobo..

Ty btw smile.gif
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Oic.. Saw some o9 shop selling around rm400.. Cheapest ryzen 5 already rm800++..

Need to wait longer then to see if there is budget am4 mobo.. 

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There will be. The cheaper A320 chipset will come soon.
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Yeah.. Need to wait patiently.. Haha..

One more question, have u ever use processor of es version.. I mean engineering sample one.

Lately saw people selling skylake i7 qhgg es below rm800.. Kinda temp me but dunno the pros n cons of it.
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Hi everyone!

[Budget]
~5k (rig only w/o peripherals)

[Purpose]
Gaming at 1080p, 60fps, max settings (can compromise la a bit) for most of the recent games
Study

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Literally just a mouse. Need everything else

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim
Witcher 3
Dragon Age Series
Mass Effect Series
Any other AAA game you can think of
Future games (wanna be good for 2017 I guess)

[Personal preferences]
Details below

[Location]
KL/Selangor, will be flying off soon for studies.

Right so hello guys, this will be my first time building a PC. I've been wanting to build my own gaming rig for long enough, and figured I should give it a shot.

My main aim is to be able to comfortably play recent games at high to max settings at 1080p, 60fps. I actually already have a build in mind centered around an i5 7500 and GTX 1060 at my budget.

There is one challenge, however; I'm a student, currently doing A-Levels with final exams in June. If I score, I get to fly off to the UK in September. Between June and September (I finish a levels early June, fly end of September), I have ample time to invest in this hobby. However, building and playing at home is not enough. I'll be away for 4 years, and I've decided I want to build a pc I can bring with me to the UK. On a flight. Crazy, right? But I've done some research. And here's a build I came up with.

CPU: i5 7500 - RM880 (c-zone)
GPU: Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6GB - RM1699 (c-zone)
Mobo: Gigabyte H270N-Wifi - RM629 (viewnet)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 + Integra 450W PSU - RM669 (c-zone)
RAM: Aegis 2x4GB DDR4 2400 - RM299 (idealtech)
SSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GB - RM479 (viewnet)
HDD: Seagate 2.5” Barracuda 1TB - RM249 (viewnet)

Total RM4904 without peripherals.

However, this is a pretty specific build, with specific needs and I have no peripherals, and since I need portability might as well put them in anyway.

Peripherals

Monitor: AOC E1659FWU usb - RM389 (viewnet)
Keyboard: ASUS Cerberus - RM199 (idealtech)
Speakers: Logitech z120 - RM59 (idealtech)

Total RM647 for peripherals.
Net total RM5551 (without software pulak but let's not go into that here)

Right so the key here is the small Fractal Design Node 202 mini ITX case that can actually fit a standard GPU. I've checked that the asus strix gtx1060 fits in the case by comparing dimensions. The monitor is key as well; I had to find a portable one and saw this nifty one listed in viewnet's price list.

Now while I'm typing this I'm actually wondering if this is the right place to post this. I'll just post here first, cause I still need suggestions and have a multitude of questions:

- I am fully aware that as a beginner, this build is gonna be a nightmare. Problems with cramming things in getting the cabling right is gonna be a challenge, but I feel so excited to tackle this. Anybody have any experience building mini-ITX? Specifically in this node 202 case?

- Should I go with stock CPU cooler? I don't plan to overclock, so stock should be enough right?

- The case comes with an Integra 450W PSU, but I can also opt for a non psu version; I've read things like the psu being shit, having too many cables etc etc. Should I opt to buy a modular sfx psu instead?

- I've read about people preferring to use a nano gpu instead of a fat gpu due to noise and temperature reasons, thoughts on this? I really wanna run the 1060.

- the case can only support 2 2.5 sata drives, so I've decided on 1 SSD and one 2.5" sata hdd. Will I encounter any problems?

- I had a question about the monitor because I was struggling to find a solution for a portable screen; I then found the usb 15.6" AOC monitor from viewnet, so I guess I'm set (what do you think?)

So my plan is; build the rig in june, get a nice full sized monitor and speaker to go along with it to play at home. Come September, I'll get the usb AOC monitor and logitech z120 speakers for transport to UK. I'll load the keyboard, speaker and maybe monitor (still thinking about this) into check in baggage and the precious rig into hand carry.

Am I crazy? Probably. This is all still theory, I might not go through with it (I'm supposed to be studying now dammit), but it's fun to plan now and I thought it'd be nice to share with you guys.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Need all of you guys' wisdom in this.

If I should post this somewhere else, do let me know.

Cheers!




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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:25 AM)
Hi everyone!

[Budget]
~5k (rig only w/o peripherals)

[Purpose]
Gaming at 1080p, 60fps, max settings (can compromise la a bit) for most of the recent games
Study

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Literally just a mouse. Need everything else

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim
Witcher 3
Dragon Age Series
Mass Effect Series
Any other AAA game you can think of
Future games (wanna be good for 2017 I guess)

[Personal preferences]
Details below

[Location]
KL/Selangor, will be flying off soon for studies.

Right so hello guys, this will be my first time building a PC. I've been wanting to build my own gaming rig for long enough, and figured I should give it a shot.

My main aim is to be able to comfortably play recent games at high to max settings at 1080p, 60fps. I actually already have a build in mind centered around an i5 7500 and GTX 1060 at my budget.

There is one challenge, however; I'm a student, currently doing A-Levels with final exams in June. If I score, I get to fly off to the UK in September. Between June and September (I finish a levels early June, fly end of September), I have ample time to invest in this hobby. However, building and playing at home is not enough. I'll be away for 4 years, and I've decided I want to build a pc I can bring with me to the UK. On a flight. Crazy, right? But I've done some research. And here's a build I came up with.

CPU: i5 7500 - RM880 (c-zone)
GPU: Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6GB - RM1699 (c-zone)
Mobo: Gigabyte H270N-Wifi - RM629 (viewnet)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 + Integra 450W PSU - RM669 (c-zone)
RAM: Aegis 2x4GB DDR4 2400 - RM299 (idealtech)
SSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GB - RM479 (viewnet)
HDD: Seagate 2.5” Barracuda 1TB - RM249 (viewnet)

Total RM4904 without peripherals.

However, this is a pretty specific build, with specific needs and I have no peripherals, and since I need portability might as well put them in anyway.

Peripherals

Monitor: AOC E1659FWU usb - RM389 (viewnet)
Keyboard: ASUS Cerberus - RM199 (idealtech)
Speakers: Logitech z120 - RM59 (idealtech)

Total RM647 for peripherals.
Net total RM5551 (without software pulak but let's not go into that here)

Right so the key here is the small Fractal Design Node 202 mini ITX case that can actually fit a standard GPU. I've checked that the asus strix gtx1060 fits in the case by comparing dimensions. The monitor is key as well; I had to find a portable one and saw this nifty one listed in viewnet's price list.

Now while I'm typing this I'm actually wondering if this is the right place to post this. I'll just post here first, cause I still need suggestions and have a multitude of questions:

- I am fully aware that as a beginner, this build is gonna be a nightmare. Problems with cramming things in getting the cabling right is gonna be a challenge, but I feel so excited to tackle this. Anybody have any experience building mini-ITX? Specifically in this node 202 case?

- Should I go with stock CPU cooler? I don't plan to overclock, so stock should be enough right?

- The case comes with an Integra 450W PSU, but I can also opt for a non psu version; I've read things like the psu being shit, having too many cables etc etc. Should I opt to buy a modular sfx psu instead?

- I've read about people preferring to use a nano gpu instead of a fat gpu due to noise and temperature reasons, thoughts on this? I really wanna run the 1060.

- the case can only support 2 2.5 sata drives, so I've decided on 1 SSD and one 2.5" sata hdd. Will I encounter any problems?

- I had a question about the monitor because I was struggling to find a solution for a portable screen; I then found the usb 15.6" AOC monitor from viewnet, so I guess I'm set (what do you think?)

So my plan is; build the rig in june, get a nice full sized monitor and speaker to go along with it to play at home. Come September, I'll get the usb AOC monitor and logitech z120 speakers for transport to UK. I'll load the keyboard, speaker and maybe monitor (still thinking about this) into check in baggage and the precious rig into hand carry.

Am I crazy? Probably. This is all still theory, I might not go through with it (I'm supposed to be studying now dammit), but it's fun to plan now and I thought it'd be nice to share with you guys.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Need all of you guys' wisdom in this.

If I should post this somewhere else, do let me know.

Cheers!
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it might be impossible to bring your rig via carry-on as airlines only allow carry-on luggages with max. weight of 7kg per piece, the case (and the bundled PSU) alone is already weighted around 4.5kg
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:25 AM)
Hi everyone!

[Budget]
~5k (rig only w/o peripherals)

[Purpose]
Gaming at 1080p, 60fps, max settings (can compromise la a bit) for most of the recent games
Study

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Literally just a mouse. Need everything else

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim
Witcher 3
Dragon Age Series
Mass Effect Series
Any other AAA game you can think of
Future games (wanna be good for 2017 I guess)

[Personal preferences]
Details below

[Location]
KL/Selangor, will be flying off soon for studies.

Right so hello guys, this will be my first time building a PC. I've been wanting to build my own gaming rig for long enough, and figured I should give it a shot.

My main aim is to be able to comfortably play recent games at high to max settings at 1080p, 60fps. I actually already have a build in mind centered around an i5 7500 and GTX 1060 at my budget.

There is one challenge, however; I'm a student, currently doing A-Levels with final exams in June. If I score, I get to fly off to the UK in September. Between June and September (I finish a levels early June, fly end of September), I have ample time to invest in this hobby. However, building and playing at home is not enough. I'll be away for 4 years, and I've decided I want to build a pc I can bring with me to the UK. On a flight. Crazy, right? But I've done some research. And here's a build I came up with.

CPU: i5 7500 - RM880 (c-zone)
GPU: Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6GB - RM1699 (c-zone)
Mobo: Gigabyte H270N-Wifi - RM629 (viewnet)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 + Integra 450W PSU - RM669 (c-zone)
RAM: Aegis 2x4GB DDR4 2400 - RM299 (idealtech)
SSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GB - RM479 (viewnet)
HDD: Seagate 2.5” Barracuda 1TB - RM249 (viewnet)

Total RM4904 without peripherals.

However, this is a pretty specific build, with specific needs and I have no peripherals, and since I need portability might as well put them in anyway.

Peripherals

Monitor: AOC E1659FWU usb - RM389 (viewnet)
Keyboard: ASUS Cerberus - RM199 (idealtech)
Speakers: Logitech z120 - RM59 (idealtech)

Total RM647 for peripherals.
Net total RM5551 (without software pulak but let's not go into that here)

Right so the key here is the small Fractal Design Node 202 mini ITX case that can actually fit a standard GPU. I've checked that the asus strix gtx1060 fits in the case by comparing dimensions. The monitor is key as well; I had to find a portable one and saw this nifty one listed in viewnet's price list.

Now while I'm typing this I'm actually wondering if this is the right place to post this. I'll just post here first, cause I still need suggestions and have a multitude of questions:

- I am fully aware that as a beginner, this build is gonna be a nightmare. Problems with cramming things in getting the cabling right is gonna be a challenge, but I feel so excited to tackle this. Anybody have any experience building mini-ITX? Specifically in this node 202 case?
My main rig is mITX form factor (not this casing though) and I helped my friend to build his rig based on Node 202 before (in Dec 2016), quite a compact casing.

- Should I go with stock CPU cooler? I don't plan to overclock, so stock should be enough right?
Yes, stock cooler is enough unless temperature is high (no need to go for after market cooler first, get only when it reaches critical level or out of your comfort zone).

- The case comes with an Integra 450W PSU, but I can also opt for a non psu version; I've read things like the psu being shit, having too many cables etc etc. Should I opt to buy a modular sfx psu instead?
Well the 450W PSU is pretty crap, taiwanese capacitors and non-modular cables, ditch it and get a modular SFX PSU instead.

- I've read about people preferring to use a nano gpu instead of a fat gpu due to noise and temperature reasons, thoughts on this? I really wanna run the 1060.
1.7k for a GTX1060?!?! Overpriced man, you could get Zotac GTX1070 Mini by topping up RM 250 and you get extra ~40% performance + confirm can fit in SFF casing without any hassle. Or just get the Zotac GTX1060 Mini (or other GTX1060 SFF version) to save cost.

- the case can only support 2 2.5 sata drives, so I've decided on 1 SSD and one 2.5" sata hdd. Will I encounter any problems?
2.5" HDD usually runs at 5,400 RPM, so it is significantly slower than those 3.5" 7,200 RPM HDD, not really a big deal since it is a limitation of the casing rather than the HDD itself, if your GPU is short enough then you can add a 3.5" HDD alongside with the GPU.

- I had a question about the monitor because I was struggling to find a solution for a portable screen; I then found the usb 15.6" AOC monitor from viewnet, so I guess I'm set (what do you think?)
No comment on this, just to let you know this particular monitor doesn't come with FHD resolution.

So my plan is; build the rig in june, get a nice full sized monitor and speaker to go along with it to play at home. Come September, I'll get the usb AOC monitor and logitech z120 speakers for transport to UK. I'll load the keyboard, speaker and maybe monitor (still thinking about this) into check in baggage and the precious rig into hand carry.

Am I crazy? Probably. This is all still theory, I might not go through with it (I'm supposed to be studying now dammit), but it's fun to plan now and I thought it'd be nice to share with you guys.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Need all of you guys' wisdom in this.

If I should post this somewhere else, do let me know.

Cheers!
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post Mar 27 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:25 AM)
Hi everyone!

[Budget]
~5k (rig only w/o peripherals)

[Purpose]
Gaming at 1080p, 60fps, max settings (can compromise la a bit) for most of the recent games
Study

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Literally just a mouse. Need everything else

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim
Witcher 3
Dragon Age Series
Mass Effect Series
Any other AAA game you can think of
Future games (wanna be good for 2017 I guess)

[Personal preferences]
Details below

[Location]
KL/Selangor, will be flying off soon for studies.

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Thoughts? Suggestions? Need all of you guys' wisdom in this.

If I should post this somewhere else, do let me know.

Cheers!
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Why not consider a gaming notebook instead? It will be portable and mobility will definitely be a plus point for you. Instead of getting speakers, do consider getting a gaming headset as you could have online chats with your family, friends in private when you are abroad. More importantly, don't have to worry about complaints of excessive noise from your neighbors when gaming
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post Mar 27 2017, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 22 2017, 09:01 AM)
Would be good to know what kind of games you play to establish whether they are GPU/CPU demanding or not. Here's something to consider:

CPU - Intel G4560 RM249
Mobo - Asus H110i-PLUS RM380
RAM - 8GB Kingston PC DDR4-2133 RM270
HDD - 1TB 7200rpm RM212
Case - Cooler Master Elite 110 RM189
PSU - Cooler Master Elite 550W RM235
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1050 2G D5 OC RM599

TOTAL - RM2134 based on C-Zone pricing

For better GPU, GIGABYTE GTX1050TI 4G D5 RM715
Add SSD, KINGSTON UV400 120GB RM239
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So I'm opting for this setup, how about the WiFi card? What kind of WiFi receiver should i be getting?
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post Mar 27 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Mar 27 2017, 12:02 PM)
So I'm opting for this setup, how about the WiFi card? What kind of WiFi receiver should i be getting?
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You can use a WIFI USB adaptor. Cost can range between RM23 for a TP-LINK TL-WN727N WIFI 150N to RM509 for a ASUS WIFI AC3100 USB-AC88
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post Mar 27 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(REManiac @ Mar 27 2017, 12:52 AM)
it might be impossible to bring your rig via carry-on as airlines only allow carry-on luggages with max. weight of 7kg per piece, the case (and the bundled PSU) alone is already weighted around 4.5kg
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Damn, I didn't realize. Thanks man. I just checked out mas and air asia, and they both specify max 7kg. I'd initially avoid checking in the pc... But now, seeing as there's an onboard limit, perhaps dismantle the gpu, psu, ssd and hdd, check those in and carry on just the motherboard and case maybe? Or the other way round?

QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 27 2017, 09:18 AM)

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Thanks so much for your input man. For psu, I've read that for sfx (specifically for this case) it's either modular corsair or bust. I saw someone recommend against silverstone sfx psu, and I unfortunately cannot find a modular sfx corsair psu on the pricelists. Yeah, I realize now the gpu I was going for is quite overpriced... About the zotac mini, aside from the smaller size and more manageable installation, any drawbacks/compromises from using a mini compared to a full sized 1070? Also, if I use this mini, can I fit a 3.5" sata hdd? And for the monitor, I knew I overlooked something... I guess I got too excited when I saw "usb" cause there's not many portable monitors available in the pricelists from what I can see. My option right now is an Asus mb168b+, and I currently cant find one online that ships to Malaysia. I'm planning to bring a 15.6" laptop with me, use that as a temporary portable monitor maybe? (idk if possible)


QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 27 2017, 09:35 AM)
Why not consider a gaming notebook instead? It will be portable and mobility will definitely be a plus point for you. Instead of getting speakers, do consider getting a gaming headset as you could have online chats with your family, friends in private when you are abroad. More importantly, don't have to worry about complaints of excessive noise from your neighbors when gaming
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I forgot to put this in the OP; I'm ruling out gaming laptops for now. I know it's ideal for travelling, but for the performance I want, they're way too expensive. I'm gonna build a pc for home use anyway, so I thought why not make that pc semi-portable; able to move from one permanent location to another (I am not gonna bring it around to classes or on the bus; it'll either stay in my room at home or stay in my room at uni). So yeah, no laptop.

Ah, I actually forgot about headsets. Good call. Might as well invest in a good one and forgo speakers. All I'm thinking is I might want speakers for regular use, as wearing headphones for extended periods of time can wear out my ears/head (if that makes any sense). The home set up will definitely have standard sized speakers. Thanks for the suggestions

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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 02:44 PM)
I forgot to put this in the OP; I'm ruling out gaming laptops for now. I know it's ideal for travelling, but for the performance I want, they're way too expensive. I'm gonna build a pc for home use anyway, so I thought why not make that pc semi-portable; able to move from one permanent location to another (I am not gonna bring it around to classes or on the bus; it'll either stay in my room at home or stay in my room at uni). So yeah, no laptop.

Ah, I actually forgot about headsets. Good call. Might as well invest in a good one and forgo speakers. All I'm thinking is I might want speakers for regular use, as wearing headphones for extended periods of time can wear out my ears/head (if that makes any sense). The home set up will definitely have standard sized speakers. Thanks for the suggestions
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Gaming notebooks come in a myriad of configs and of course, price. It will definitely cost more than desktop, the price paid for portability. Maybe you could take a look at this.
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post Mar 27 2017, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 02:44 PM)
Thanks so much for your input man. For psu, I've read that for sfx (specifically for this case) it's either modular corsair or bust. I saw someone recommend against silverstone sfx psu, and I unfortunately cannot find a modular sfx corsair psu on the pricelists. Yeah, I realize now the gpu I was going for is quite overpriced... About the zotac mini, aside from the smaller size and more manageable installation, any drawbacks/compromises from using a mini compared to a full sized 1070? Also, if I use this mini, can I fit a 3.5" sata hdd? And for the monitor, I knew I overlooked something... I guess I got too excited when I saw "usb" cause there's not many portable monitors available in the pricelists from what I can see. My option right now is an Asus mb168b+, and I currently cant find one online that ships to Malaysia. I'm planning to bring a 15.6" laptop with me, use that as a temporary portable monitor maybe? (idk if possible)
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For 3.5" HDD, you'll need to use velcro tape if you go for Node 202, Silverstone RVZ02 doesn't need that as it comes with a dedicated slot and mounting screw holes (provided your GPU is short enough, max length is around 200mm, Gigabyte Mini ITX cards qualify for it).

Mini ITX GPU usually comes with a less powerful cooling system, so expect temperature to be slightly higher than normal card, most of the manufacturers reduce the clock speed of the card to overcome overheating issue, so in contrast, you are likely to be few FPS behind the normal card (probably 1 - 3 FPS which is not really that significant after all).

The airflow of Node 202 is pretty bad, I wouldn't recommend fitting a bulky 3.5" HDD inside unless you really need that storage space, external HDD is a better option in this case.


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post Mar 27 2017, 05:03 PM

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Hi Sifus,

[Budget]
2k-2.5k

[Purpose]
Gaming and drama. Extra coding

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Keyboard, mouse and monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Dota 2 and CS:GO(once in a while)

[Personal preferences]
No special preferences but prefer to have at least i5 or same level processor for heavy job purposes.

[Location]
Setapak, KL

Thanks Sifus

This post has been edited by godyuz95: Mar 27 2017, 05:03 PM
maxxxxx0123
post Mar 27 2017, 08:47 PM

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Hi guys, need some recommendation to replace my 6 years desktop
[Budget] RM7k-8k

[Purpose] Gaming for latest games at max settings, and maybe able to play latest game 5 years down the road (not max settings of course)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Only Monitor maybe (U2311HD). Quite old monitor, not sure should I upgrade or not

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
New games from steam, and also maybe cities skylines, planet coaster with loads of mods

[Personal preferences]
Intel processor & nvidia gc. Price don't need include HDD, but SSD (240gb) is a must. Doubt I will OC at all

This post has been edited by maxxxxx0123: Mar 27 2017, 09:51 PM
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post Mar 27 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(godyuz95 @ Mar 27 2017, 05:03 PM)
Hi Sifus,

[Budget]
2k-2.5k

[Purpose]
Gaming and drama. Extra coding

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Keyboard, mouse and monitor

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Dota 2 and CS:GO(once in a while)

[Personal preferences]
No special preferences but prefer to have at least i5 or same level processor for heavy job purposes.

[Location]
Setapak, KL

Thanks Sifus
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Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 559
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2434 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(maxxxxx0123 @ Mar 27 2017, 08:47 PM)
Hi guys, need some recommendation to replace my 6 years desktop
[Budget] RM7k-8k

[Purpose] Gaming for latest games at max settings, and maybe able to play latest game 5 years down the road (not max settings of course)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Only Monitor maybe (U2311HD). Quite old monitor, not sure should I upgrade or not

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
New games from steam, and also maybe cities skylines, planet coaster with loads of mods

[Personal preferences]
Intel processor & nvidia gc. Price don't need include HDD, but SSD (240gb) is a must. Doubt I will OC at all
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Intel build (faster on stock and single threaded operation):

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2168
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA SSD - RM 464
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Phanteks P400 Tempered Glass RGB - RM 379
BenQ Zowie XL2411 144Hz - RM 1299

Total: RM 7258 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

AMD Ryzen build (more cores and useful in multicore enabled titles in the future):

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - RM 1599
Asus Prime B350-PLUS - RM 533
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2168
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA SSD - RM 464
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Phanteks P400 Tempered Glass RGB - RM 379
BenQ Zowie XL2411 144Hz - RM 1299

Total: RM 7451 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

A 1080p 144Hz monitor is included in both of the builds.
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post Mar 28 2017, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(boon213 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:25 AM)
Hi everyone!

[Budget]
~5k (rig only w/o peripherals)

[Purpose]
Gaming at 1080p, 60fps, max settings (can compromise la a bit) for most of the recent games
Study

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Literally just a mouse. Need everything else

[Monitor resolution]
1920x1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Skyrim
Witcher 3
Dragon Age Series
Mass Effect Series
Any other AAA game you can think of
Future games (wanna be good for 2017 I guess)

[Personal preferences]
Details below

[Location]
KL/Selangor, will be flying off soon for studies.

Right so hello guys, this will be my first time building a PC. I've been wanting to build my own gaming rig for long enough, and figured I should give it a shot.

My main aim is to be able to comfortably play recent games at high to max settings at 1080p, 60fps. I actually already have a build in mind centered around an i5 7500 and GTX 1060 at my budget.

There is one challenge, however; I'm a student, currently doing A-Levels with final exams in June. If I score, I get to fly off to the UK in September. Between June and September (I finish a levels early June, fly end of September), I have ample time to invest in this hobby. However, building and playing at home is not enough. I'll be away for 4 years, and I've decided I want to build a pc I can bring with me to the UK. On a flight. Crazy, right? But I've done some research. And here's a build I came up with.

CPU: i5 7500 - RM880 (c-zone)
GPU: Asus GTX 1060 Strix 6GB - RM1699 (c-zone)
Mobo: Gigabyte H270N-Wifi - RM629 (viewnet)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 + Integra 450W PSU - RM669 (c-zone)
RAM: Aegis 2x4GB DDR4 2400 - RM299 (idealtech)
SSD: Samsung EVO 850 250GB - RM479 (viewnet)
HDD: Seagate 2.5” Barracuda 1TB - RM249 (viewnet)

Total RM4904 without peripherals.

However, this is a pretty specific build, with specific needs and I have no peripherals, and since I need portability might as well put them in anyway.

Peripherals

Monitor: AOC E1659FWU usb - RM389 (viewnet)
Keyboard: ASUS Cerberus - RM199 (idealtech)
Speakers: Logitech z120 - RM59 (idealtech)

Total RM647 for peripherals.
Net total RM5551 (without software pulak but let's not go into that here)

Right so the key here is the small Fractal Design Node 202 mini ITX case that can actually fit a standard GPU. I've checked that the asus strix gtx1060 fits in the case by comparing dimensions. The monitor is key as well; I had to find a portable one and saw this nifty one listed in viewnet's price list.

Now while I'm typing this I'm actually wondering if this is the right place to post this. I'll just post here first, cause I still need suggestions and have a multitude of questions:

- I am fully aware that as a beginner, this build is gonna be a nightmare. Problems with cramming things in getting the cabling right is gonna be a challenge, but I feel so excited to tackle this. Anybody have any experience building mini-ITX? Specifically in this node 202 case?

- Should I go with stock CPU cooler? I don't plan to overclock, so stock should be enough right?

- The case comes with an Integra 450W PSU, but I can also opt for a non psu version; I've read things like the psu being shit, having too many cables etc etc. Should I opt to buy a modular sfx psu instead?

- I've read about people preferring to use a nano gpu instead of a fat gpu due to noise and temperature reasons, thoughts on this? I really wanna run the 1060.

- the case can only support 2 2.5 sata drives, so I've decided on 1 SSD and one 2.5" sata hdd. Will I encounter any problems?

- I had a question about the monitor because I was struggling to find a solution for a portable screen; I then found the usb 15.6" AOC monitor from viewnet, so I guess I'm set (what do you think?)

So my plan is; build the rig in june, get a nice full sized monitor and speaker to go along with it to play at home. Come September, I'll get the usb AOC monitor and logitech z120 speakers for transport to UK. I'll load the keyboard, speaker and maybe monitor (still thinking about this) into check in baggage and the precious rig into hand carry.

Am I crazy? Probably. This is all still theory, I might not go through with it (I'm supposed to be studying now dammit), but it's fun to plan now and I thought it'd be nice to share with you guys.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Need all of you guys' wisdom in this.

If I should post this somewhere else, do let me know.

Cheers!
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If you chosen the casing that FD Node 202 will be the one, just take the one directly with Integra PSU eventho is 450 but is sufficient enough for your 1060.
is a good case, just a lot of people say the airflow not really that good, because inside very cramps..
personal advice, go and buy proc cooler (low profile), if you lazy to measure the height, you can go to pcpartpicker to play around.

For HDD, DO NOT go for 3,5". you only advised to use 2,5" for this case. but your mobo if not mistaken can put m.2 (2280) disk. so total it can cater 3 disk.



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post Mar 28 2017, 10:35 AM

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Currently on i5 3570k, gtx960, PSU 700W
Planning to get Kaby with 3k budget,
need Mobo, RAM, Proc and maybe ssd
Editing and sometimes gaming
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QUOTE(ScivanShimitar @ Mar 28 2017, 10:35 AM)
Currently on i5 3570k, gtx960, PSU 700W
Planning to get Kaby with 3k budget,
need Mobo, RAM, Proc and maybe ssd
Editing and sometimes gaming
whats your take on this sifus?
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Since gaming is not the main priority, you may want to consider switching to AMD Ryzen, they come with more cores and will be faster in video editing (provided the software you use for editing do utilize the multicore architecture of current gen processor).

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (8C16T, 3GHz base, 3.7GHz boost) - RM 1599
ASRock AB350 Pro4 - RM 469
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464

Total: RM 3082 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

Intel Core i7 7700 (4C8T, 3.6GHz base, 4.2GHz boost) - RM 1424
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464

Total: RM 2953 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)



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post Mar 28 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 28 2017, 11:00 AM)
Since gaming is not the main priority, you may want to consider switching to AMD Ryzen, they come with more cores and will be faster in video editing (provided the software you use for editing do utilize the multicore architecture of current gen processor).

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (8C16T, 3GHz base, 3.7GHz boost) - RM 1599
ASRock AB350 Pro4 - RM 469
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464

Total: RM 3082 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

Intel Core i7 7700 (4C8T, 3.6GHz base, 4.2GHz boost) - RM 1424
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464

Total: RM 2953 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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thank you very much for the swift reply.
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post Mar 28 2017, 07:44 PM

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Hi all sifu.

I would like to make a rig to support my workload.

The software that I had been using most of the time are Vray 3D Max , Autocad , Photoshop.

Would like to render the 3D efficiently rather than time consuming.

However I'm not sure the software is processor or graphic card intensive.

Hope all sifu could give me a hand on it.

And lastly.
My budget is 5000
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 07:44 PM)
Hi all sifu.

I would like to make a rig to support my workload.

The software that I had been using most of the time are Vray 3D Max , Autocad , Photoshop.

Would like to render the 3D efficiently rather than time consuming.

However I'm not sure the software is processor or graphic card intensive.

Hope all sifu could give me a hand on it.

And lastly.
My budget is 5000
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How about these?

AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350 Tomahawk - 645
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD - 482
Seagate 2TB - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5006 total (C-Zone prices)

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Thanks for the quick reply.

Do you have any idea all these software is mainly processor or graphic card hunger ?

Try to look for forum to know more but so far couldn't.

QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 28 2017, 07:55 PM)
How about these?

AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350 Tomahawk - 645
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD - 482
Seagate 2TB - 313
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5006 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 07:58 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply.

Do you have any idea all these software is mainly processor or graphic card hunger ?

Try to look for forum to know more but so far couldn't.
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Graphics design is always CPU > RAM > GPU. Ryzen 1700 has 8 core, 16 threads.
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 07:58 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply.

Do you have any idea all these software is mainly processor or graphic card hunger ?

Try to look for forum to know more but so far couldn't.
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The 1050Ti will serves you well for 3DMax, R7 1700 helps a lot during vray rendering
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by any chance should i get more than 16gb like 32gb ram so i could multi task on the rig ?

QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 28 2017, 08:04 PM)
Graphics design is always CPU > RAM > GPU. Ryzen 1700 has 8 core, 16 threads.
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thanks for the info.

if thats the scenario, as long i got more cores theoretically i will get things done in shorter time for graphic design?

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 28 2017, 08:07 PM)
The 1050Ti will serves you well for 3DMax, R7 1700 helps a lot during vray rendering
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 08:11 PM)
by any chance should i get more than 16gb like 32gb ram so i could multi task on the rig ?
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16gb is more than enough, except you're rendering video sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 08:11 PM)
by any chance should i get more than 16gb like 32gb ram so i could multi task on the rig ?
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16GB should be more than enough unless you wanna go nuts.
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all good. so i guess i should heavily invest on processor and graphic card

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 28 2017, 08:17 PM)
16gb is more than enough, except you're rendering video  sweat.gif
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thanks !

is your rig up for sale ? tongue.gif
so i could save hell a lot. hahaha

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16gb is more than enough, except you're rendering video  sweat.gif
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thanks !

is your rig up for sale ? tongue.gif
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haha, nope bro, you better off with Ryzen. 8C/16T vs 4C/8T for vray rendering. Ryzen sure help reduce the time taken for the render to be complete thumbup.gif
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by any chance should i pump more money into the processor with higher clock speed and reduce my fund on the graphic card?
or i should distribute the fund well between both?

since another sifu mention that graphic design is always on processor > ram > gpu

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 28 2017, 09:12 PM)
haha, nope bro, you better off with Ryzen. 8C/16T vs 4C/8T for vray rendering. Ryzen sure help reduce the time taken for the render to be complete  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 09:52 PM)
by any chance should i pump more money into the processor with higher clock speed and reduce my fund on the graphic card?
or i should distribute the fund well between both?

since another sifu mention that graphic design is always on processor > ram > gpu
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i think the build quoted by TristanX is well balanced already. You can proceed with his quotation
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QUOTE(Shaney @ Mar 28 2017, 09:52 PM)
by any chance should i pump more money into the processor with higher clock speed and reduce my fund on the graphic card?
or i should distribute the fund well between both?

since another sifu mention that graphic design is always on processor > ram > gpu
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Just see these review if 1700X is worth RM300 more or 1800X is worth RM900 more or not

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-am...-1700x-and-1700
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-r...0-review,1.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/103270-a...-1700-14nm-zen/

Bare in mind 1700X and 1800X requires you to buy heatsink as well.
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Budget] RM 4000 pc only not counting monitor

[Purpose] gaming, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render colour grading

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently]GTA V, battlefield 1, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render
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Thanks smile.gif
Will do !

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 28 2017, 11:39 PM)
i think the build quoted by TristanX is well balanced already. You can proceed with his quotation
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Thanks !

Will check on it and see how's it !

QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 29 2017, 01:13 AM)
Just see these review if 1700X is worth RM300 more or 1800X is worth RM900 more or not

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-am...-1700x-and-1700
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-r...0-review,1.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/103270-a...-1700-14nm-zen/

Bare in mind 1700X and 1800X requires you to buy heatsink as well.
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Hi guys, looking for a recommendation for a rig, laptop dying already.

Budget: RM2,500 - 3,000 (can go higher really need to dont want to keep changing) and already have peripherals

Purpose: Streaming movies, gaming (minimal), and work (only using office suite, no rendering etc)

Monitor resolution: - 1080

Games & softwares: streaming movies, excel, word, powerpoint. Gaming: shadow of war (in future), fps

Personal preferences: Personally I like those small cases, but I dont mind the normal tower ones.

Location: Kuala Lumpur

Thanks guys!
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 02:26 AM)
Budget] RM 4000 pc only not counting monitor

[Purpose] gaming, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render colour grading

[Monitor resolution] 1080P

[Games & softwares that use frequently]GTA V, battlefield 1, video editing Adobe premiere, after effects, render
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Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3985 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(toiletmonkey @ Mar 29 2017, 07:57 AM)
Hi guys, looking for a recommendation for a rig, laptop dying already.

Budget: RM2,500 - 3,000 (can go higher really need to dont want to keep changing) and already have peripherals

Purpose: Streaming movies, gaming (minimal), and work (only using office suite, no rendering etc)

Monitor resolution: - 1080

Games & softwares: streaming movies, excel, word, powerpoint. Gaming: shadow of war (in future), fps

Personal preferences: Personally I like those small cases, but I dont mind the normal tower ones.

Location: Kuala Lumpur

Thanks guys!
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Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 589
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2464 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

You can add an SSD if you wish to spend more for a more responsive system (boot time & overall speed), SFF casing is also possible (depends on you).
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Hey guys, an off topic question and trying to learn something here. I see there's virtually no suggestions for RX480/RX470 here. Despite its faster on newer API DX12/Vulkan (I know DX12 is a cluster fuck but still it's the future) and slightly cheaper. Also, get to utilize adaptive sync with lower budget (Freesync). Any idea why?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 08:46 AM)
Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149


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Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit

This post has been edited by Lumiaaa: Mar 29 2017, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 08:46 AM)
Will use i7 instead of Ryzen in this build because budget AM4 mobo is nowhere to be found yet, as for the GPU, I'll pick GTX1060 over RX480 because GTA V favors Nvidia GPU heavily.

Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3985 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM)
Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit
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As a node 202 caters for MITX mobo, an ASUS H110I-PLUS RM380 will do the job. As for PSU, you will need a SFX type, which costs more eg Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W RM589, Silverstone SFX 600W RM585. Note that the Node 202 also comes with its own PSU for RM669 but alas, it is only a 450W.

EDIT : You could consider the Node 304 (RM369) or CM Elite 130 (RM219), both of which can support ATX PSU

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would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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I normally would not. A HDD is used to store valuable data and one should not run the risk. Just my own practice.
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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 29 2017, 10:21 AM)
Hey guys, an off topic question and trying to learn something here. I see there's virtually no suggestions for RX480/RX470 here. Despite its faster on newer API DX12/Vulkan (I know DX12 is a cluster fuck but still it's the future) and slightly cheaper. Also, get to utilize adaptive sync with lower budget (Freesync). Any idea why?
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I can see 2 main reasons:

[Personal Preferences] <--- Most of the people here (the one who asks for suggestion) prefer Nvidia over AMD (don't shoot me innocent.gif ).

[Games & softwares] <--- Most of the time, it is occupied with "Nvidia" titles, hence more GTX1060 than RX480.

The budget range in this suggestion thread is mostly < 5k, that's one of the main reasons why FreeSync/GSync is not in the discussion, yup we know that FreeSync is cheaper than GSync by quite a large margin but 1080p 144Hz FreeSync still costs > 1k, it is not really that budget friendly unless FreeSync upgrade is specified purposely.

QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 29 2017, 10:56 AM)
Can you suggest small form factor build? Such as node 202 case and a different mobo to fit

I'm aware my budget may go up a bit
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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 283
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 510
Zotac GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 1229
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
Corsair SF450 - RM 460
Fractal Design Node 202 - RM 379

Total: RM 4504 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 02:42 PM)
would you get a used HDD ? is it reliable ?
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How much cheaper is the used HDD compared to new HDD? If it is not too much then just get a new one laugh.gif
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How much cheaper is the used HDD compared to new HDD? If it is not too much then just get a new one  laugh.gif
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It was a WD Green 2Tb, it is sell for 200 only sweat.gif
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Hello, can recommend me 1.5K gaming rig. For my little sister, she want to play The Sims 4.

[Budget] 1.5k MAX

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] The Sims 4

[Location] Available Melaka, KL, Muar
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Been reading comments. So many conflicting views on Ryzen and i7.

So am i right to sum up that Ryzen is better than i7 in multitasking but falls short of i7 in gaming?

I am planning to build a PC to be used as my workstation and also for some gaming (CS:GO, Dota 2 and some MMORPGs).

Current PC is laggy (i5 2400) - mostly due to heat i guess, the temperature fluctuation is very high, causing lag spikes which annoy me a lot.

I open like 30 tabs in 2 of my browsers always and tens of Microsoft Excel, Word, Paint & few other programs.

I usually also keep games open without closing them.

Most importantly, i want to keep antivirus open without it slowing down my computer.

I also don't like my PC running hot as i think it causes spikes. So a build with aftermarket coolers is preferred.

In short, for the tasks that i have mentioned: Ryzen or i7?

Budget can be anywhere from 5K to 10K.

This build will be used for dual monitor setup. One for gaming (1080 TN), another for work and other stuffs (4K). Will run them together sometimes if i need to multitask heavily.

Thanks.


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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 03:30 PM)
It was a WD Green 2Tb, it is sell for 200 only  sweat.gif
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WD Green is a turtle, I'll spend more to get a 7,200 RPM HDD instead whistling.gif

QUOTE(NoKusshon @ Mar 29 2017, 03:48 PM)
Hello, can recommend me 1.5K gaming rig. For my little sister, she want to play The Sims 4.

[Budget] 1.5k MAX

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] The Sims 4

[Location] Available Melaka, KL, Muar
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The usual i3 7100 build will be sufficient, G4560 is also fine but since you are going to rely on iGPU for gaming, i3 7100's HD630 is faster than G4560's HD610.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 519
Asus H110M-K - RM 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 259
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
AVF PSU + Casing ~ RM 150

Total up will be around RM 1430 (Viewnet price).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 03:59 PM)
WD Green is a turtle, I'll spend more to get a 7,200 RPM HDD instead  whistling.gif

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even the version is the 7200rpm one ?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 03:24 PM)
I can see 2 main reasons:

[Personal Preferences] <--- Most of the people here (the one who asks for suggestion) prefer Nvidia over AMD (don't shoot me  innocent.gif ).

[Games & softwares] <--- Most of the time, it is occupied with "Nvidia" titles, hence more GTX1060 than RX480.

The budget range in this suggestion thread is mostly < 5k, that's one of the main reasons why FreeSync/GSync is not in the discussion, yup we know that FreeSync is cheaper than GSync by quite a large margin but 1080p 144Hz FreeSync still costs > 1k, it is not really that budget friendly unless FreeSync upgrade is specified purposely.
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Yeah. Malaysians are really butthurt about AMD. Nvidia kinda has that "prestige" status when comes to GPU. Nvidia titles aside, if ppl study the benchmarks in a while, as in 2016 vs 2017 benchmarks, RX480's performance is increasing gradually overtime when comparing to GTX1060, they're pretty much on par (sponsored titles like Hitman, RotTR aside. DX12/Vulkan is pretty a clear win for AMD

Speaking of Freesync monitors, sometimes non-adaptive sync monitor even more expensive than freesync monitor despite the similar specs. which I can't understand why. Freesync 144hz is kinda pointless as there's still no viable AMD GPU to feed that amount of framerates for newer games.

Hate it when ppl oppose my suggestion for AMD and insisting Nvidia is better without justifying why. The best they do is show me old benchmarks.
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QUOTE(Saladz @ Mar 29 2017, 03:53 PM)
Been reading comments. So many conflicting views on Ryzen and i7.

So am i right to sum up that Ryzen is better than i7 in multitasking but falls short of i7 in gaming?

I am planning to build a PC to be used as my workstation and also for some gaming (CS:GO, Dota 2 and some MMORPGs).

Current PC is laggy (i5 2400) - mostly due to heat i guess, the temperature fluctuation is very high, causing lag spikes which annoy me a lot.

I open like 30 tabs in 2 of my browsers always and tens of Microsoft Excel, Word, Paint & few other programs.

I usually also keep games open without closing them.

Most importantly, i want to keep antivirus open without it slowing down my computer.

I also don't like my PC running hot as i think it causes spikes. So a build with aftermarket coolers is preferred.

In short, for the tasks that i have mentioned: Ryzen or i7?

Budget can be anywhere from 5K to 10K.

This build will be used for dual monitor setup. One for gaming (1080 TN), another for work and other stuffs (4K). Will run them together sometimes if i need to multitask heavily.

Thanks.
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Ryzen wins in multithreaded/multicore application, most of the games out there aren't fully utilizing the extra core/thread of PC processor yet, hence the one with higher single core performance will win (just like CS:GO & Dota 2).

If you plan to overclock the CPU, then you'll need to get a decent 3rd party CPU cooler and mobo.

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 04:04 PM)
even the version is the 7200rpm one ?
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I'll request for HDD health and bad sector report first, at least I get to know the status of the HDD before I make the purchase right tongue.gif

QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 29 2017, 04:21 PM)
Yeah. Malaysians are really butthurt about AMD. Nvidia kinda has that "prestige" status when comes to GPU. Nvidia titles aside, if ppl study the benchmarks in a while, as in 2016 vs 2017 benchmarks, RX480's performance is increasing gradually overtime when comparing to GTX1060, they're pretty much on par (sponsored titles like Hitman, RotTR aside. DX12/Vulkan is pretty a clear win for AMD

Speaking of Freesync monitors, sometimes non-adaptive sync monitor even more expensive than freesync monitor despite the similar specs. which I can't understand why. Freesync 144hz is kinda pointless as there's still no viable AMD GPU to feed that amount of framerates for newer games.

Hate it when ppl oppose my suggestion for AMD and insisting Nvidia is better without justifying why. The best they do is show me old benchmarks.
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GPU technology is evolving rapidly and people tend to change their gaming card in one to two years of time so the performance that they can get NOW matters the most to them, things might change in the future when Nvidia fails to catch up in the DX12/Vulkan race when they become the primary API.

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I'll request for HDD health and bad sector report first, at least I get to know the status of the HDD before I make the purchase right  tongue.gif

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yup, the seller stated that 100% healthy and got no bad sector, WD Green 2Tb 7200rpm ver for 200 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 05:47 PM)
GPU technology is evolving rapidly and people tend to change their gaming card in one to two years of time so the performance that they can get NOW matters the most to them, things might change in the future when Nvidia fails to catch up in the DX12/Vulkan race when they become the primary API.

Avoid fighting with fanboy, pointless to argue with them  laugh.gif
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True that. Hopefully Vega's pricing can be something like Ryzen, but that's not gonna happen.
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 05:53 PM)
yup, the seller stated that 100% healthy and got no bad sector, WD Green 2Tb 7200rpm ver for 200  sweat.gif
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Wait, there is a WD Green variant with 7,200 RPM? hmm.gif

AFAIK only the WD Black 2TB is running at 7,200 RPM (for WD branded HDD).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 06:13 PM)
Wait, there is a WD Green variant with 7,200 RPM?  hmm.gif

AFAIK only the WD Black 2TB is running at 7,200 RPM (for WD branded HDD).
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haha, if you also not sure, I'll be very much not know too sweat.gif . But for WD Black 2Tb, he sell for 380 only, same condition, good price ?

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RM 1500 - 2500 Max

[Purpose]
Home use for my sister. Mybe for watching movie and surfing the internet and playing games.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Not sure right now. Mybe some CS:GO and Dota2.

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I just need a smooth working system mainly for my little sister. Nothing much.

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Thanks !
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Mar 29 2017, 06:16 PM)
haha, if you also not sure, I'll be very much not know too  sweat.gif . But for WD Black 2Tb, he sell for 380 only, same condition, good price ?
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QUOTE(derthvadar @ Mar 29 2017, 07:11 PM)
[Budget]
RM 1500 - 2500 Max

[Purpose]
Home use for my sister. Mybe for watching movie and surfing the internet and playing games.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None.

[Monitor resolution]
1080p.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Not sure right now. Mybe some CS:GO and Dota2.

[Personal preferences]
I just need a smooth working system mainly for my little sister. Nothing much.

[Location]
Pahang. Temerloh.

Thanks !
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You can remove the GPU if your sister is ok with games running at low settings with the iGPU.

Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 559
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware F3 - RM 119
AOC I2280SWD IPS - RM 405

Total: RM 2507 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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Hi, i;m planning to build an ITX Rig, here is what i have in mind atm:

I7 7700
GA-B250N-Phoenix WIFI (any other itx mobo that support m.2)
INTEL 540s 240GB M.2
Fractal Design Define Nano S

I haven't made up my mind on the ram (at least 16gb) and PSU, any good and reliable full or semi modular PSU to recommend?

Note:

I don't need a GPU..

Appreciate for any recommendation smile.gif

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Hi sifus,
need your recommendation on pc parts with price. I plan to upgrade my rig. Mostly use it to play games on 1080p. Here are the current specs:

Budget: around rm2000 - rm3000

i3 4160 ~~ any newest and best i5 or i7
asus h81m-k ~~ if need to change due to cpu compatibility, please specify ya
ram 8gb (4gbx2) ~~ i think don't need to upgrade on this yet
galax gtx 750ti ~~ preferably to get the best gtx1060. please specify the best one
silverstone strider essential 500w ~~ this one can support gtx1060 right?

My current rig was actually based on one of the sifu here (can't remember the name) around two years ago if I'm not mistaken and I'm really happy with it.

Now I just want to get up to date to the latest tech.

You guys are awesome and Thanks in advance!

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 29 2017, 09:00 PM)
Hmmm, price is way too suspicious, up to you  unsure.gif

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Any good monitor for less than RM500? Cheaper is always better. Currently looking at View Sonic VA2419. If you have any cheaper model which best bang for the buck, appreciate if you could help me. Min size 21"
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QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Mar 29 2017, 09:21 PM)
Hi, i;m planning to build an ITX Rig, here is what i have in mind atm:

I7 7700
GA-B250N-Phoenix WIFI (any other itx mobo that support m.2)
INTEL 540s 240GB M.2
Fractal Design Define Nano S

I haven't made up my mind on the ram (at least 16gb) and PSU, any good and reliable full or semi modular PSU to recommend?

Note:

I don't need a GPU..

Appreciate for any recommendation smile.gif
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No usage pattern/purpose and budget make it harder for us to share our suggestion sweat.gif

QUOTE(dus3 @ Mar 29 2017, 10:40 PM)
Hi sifus,
need your recommendation on pc parts with price. I plan to upgrade my rig. Mostly use it to play games on 1080p. Here are the current specs:

Budget: around rm2000 - rm3000

i3 4160 ~~ any newest and best i5 or i7
asus h81m-k ~~ if need to change due to cpu compatibility, please specify ya
ram 8gb (4gbx2) ~~ i think don't need to upgrade on this yet
galax gtx 750ti ~~ preferably to get the best gtx1060. please specify the best one
silverstone strider essential 500w ~~ this one can support gtx1060 right?

My current rig was actually based on one of the sifu here (can't remember the name) around two years ago if I'm not mistaken and I'm really happy with it.

Now I just want to get up to date to the latest tech.

You guys are awesome and Thanks in advance!

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If you want to save money, then you can try to find i7 4770/4790 and re-use your current mobo because latest generation CPU is using a newer socket (1151), thus increasing the total cost for whole CPU platform upgrade.

For your budget, I would recommend getting the i7 4770/4790 (new or used, depends on you, I'll just assume you are going to get a new one which costs around 1.3k) and GTX1060 6GB or RX480 8GB. Both CPU and GPU upgrade will sum up around 2.6k.

QUOTE(d3ck @ Mar 29 2017, 11:56 PM)
Any good monitor for less than RM500? Cheaper is always better. Currently looking at View Sonic VA2419. If you have any cheaper model which best bang for the buck, appreciate if you could help me. Min size 21"
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AOC I2280SWD, around RM 400
Acer R221Q, around RM 500

Yeah, VA2419 seems to be the best option right now if you are looking for IPS and 24" screen.
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QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Mar 29 2017, 09:21 PM)
Hi, i;m planning to build an ITX Rig, here is what i have in mind atm:

I7 7700
GA-B250N-Phoenix WIFI (any other itx mobo that support m.2)
INTEL 540s 240GB M.2
Fractal Design Define Nano S

I haven't made up my mind on the ram (at least 16gb) and PSU, any good and reliable full or semi modular PSU to recommend?

Note:

I don't need a GPU..

Appreciate for any recommendation smile.gif
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Unfortunately for you, the Nano S will require a SFX PSU, which will be quite pricey. As you have plans to (eventually) add a GPU, you should get a PSU of at least 550W. Here are some for your consideration:

1. Silverstone SX500 (modular) RM499 (Idealtech)
2. Silverstone SX600 (modular) RM575 (Idealtech)
3. Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W (modular) RM589 (C-zone)

As for RAM, you should consider 2 x 8GB DDR4-2133 or 2400.

EDIT: Oops, you don't have plan to add GPU. 450W-500W PSU will suffice. Btw, the Nano S can be bought with 450W PSU for RM669 (C-zone).
1. Silverstone SFX450W (modular) RM455
2. Thermaltake Toughpower SFX450W RM459

This post has been edited by richard912: Mar 30 2017, 11:04 AM
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Hi,

I want to buy a refurbished HP z800

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-z800-Xeon-Quad-...PUAAOSwrklVIx7E


Model HP z800 Workstation
Operating System Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Processor Intel Xeon E5520 2.53/2.26 GHz Quad-Core HT CPU (8 threads)
Memory 8GB DDR3
Storage 2 TB Hard Drive
DVD-RW SuperMulti Drive
Graphics nVidia Quadro FX 1800 - 768 MB
Display n/a
Audio Integrated HD Audio
Networking Gigabit Ethernet

And thinking of upgrading the Graphic with a newer card.

Is this route favourable?

Purpose is gaming.
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QUOTE(hakimida @ Mar 30 2017, 12:00 PM)
Hi,

I want to buy a refurbished HP z800

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-z800-Xeon-Quad-...PUAAOSwrklVIx7E
Model HP z800 Workstation
Operating System Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
Processor Intel Xeon E5520 2.53/2.26 GHz Quad-Core HT CPU (8 threads)
Memory  8GB DDR3
Storage 2 TB Hard Drive
DVD-RW SuperMulti Drive
Graphics nVidia Quadro FX 1800 - 768 MB
Display n/a
Audio Integrated HD Audio
Networking Gigabit Ethernet

And thinking of upgrading the Graphic with a newer card.

Is this route favourable?

Purpose is gaming.
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Not cheap sweat.gif

The processor clock speed is low so expect the performance of single threaded games to suffer a bit.

Why don't get a new set (or used set) locally? Save all the hassle, and you gonna upgrade the GPU also if you really go for this refurbished PC, it's like spending money for nothing.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 27 2017, 10:55 PM)
Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 515
G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550
Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2168
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA SSD - RM 464
EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459
Phanteks P400 Tempered Glass RGB - RM 379
BenQ Zowie XL2411 144Hz - RM 1299

Total: RM 7258 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)


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Thanks

End up I go for this

Intei Core i7 7700
Asus B150 Pro Gaming
Asus Strix GTX10180
Kingsston SSDNow M.2 240gb
Kingston D4 PC2400 Fury 16GB Ram

EVGA SuperNova 550 PSU seems not available here, any other idea what else I can get for PSU?

Case and Monitor still not yet decide. Still thinking should I use back my old Dell, or break the budget and get a 1440p monitor.

PS: Asus B150 pro gaming is a good mobo? This I might still can change.



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Thanks

End up I go for this

Intei Core i7 7700
Asus B150 Pro Gaming
Asus Strix GTX10180
Kingsston SSDNow M.2 240gb
Kingston D4 PC2400 Fury 16GB Ram

EVGA SuperNova 550 PSU seems not available here, any other idea what else I can get for PSU?

Case and Monitor still not yet decide. Still thinking should I use back my old Dell, or break the budget and get a 1440p monitor.

PS: Asus B150 pro gaming is a good mobo? This I might still can change.
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If you are looking for same tier (tier 1) PSU that costs the same (more or less) as the EVGA unit that I've recommended to you earlier, then you can consider these:

1. Superflower Leadex Gold
2. Corsair RMx/RMi
3. Cooler Master V series (only for fully modular model)

Or "downgrade" to EVGA SuperNova GQ series (tier 2).

How much is the mobo? RM 500++? If yes then it is overpriced, B150 is last gen chipset, current gen is B250 (the successor of B150), it is not worth to pay for RM 500 for an old chipset when you can buy a new chipset at about the same cost.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 30 2017, 05:48 PM)
If you are looking for same tier (tier 1) PSU that costs the same (more or less) as the EVGA unit that I've recommended to you earlier, then you can consider these:

1. Superflower Leadex Gold
2. Corsair RMx/RMi
3. Cooler Master V series (only for fully modular model)

Or "downgrade" to EVGA SuperNova GQ series (tier 2).

How much is the mobo? RM 500++? If yes then it is overpriced, B150 is last gen chipset, current gen is B250 (the successor of B150), it is not worth to pay for RM 500 for an old chipset when you can buy a new chipset at about the same cost.
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Ahhh yes. The B150 is around rm550 or so. Guess I will change to others then.

Thanks for the PSU recommendation too
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Mar 27 2017, 04:09 PM)
For 3.5" HDD, you'll need to use velcro tape if you go for Node 202, Silverstone RVZ02 doesn't need that as it comes with a dedicated slot and mounting screw holes (provided your GPU is short enough, max length is around 200mm, Gigabyte Mini ITX cards qualify for it).

Mini ITX GPU usually comes with a less powerful cooling system, so expect temperature to be slightly higher than normal card, most of the manufacturers reduce the clock speed of the card to overcome overheating issue, so in contrast, you are likely to be few FPS behind the normal card (probably 1 - 3 FPS which is not really that significant after all).

The airflow of Node 202 is pretty bad, I wouldn't recommend fitting a bulky 3.5" HDD inside unless you really need that storage space, external HDD is a better option in this case.
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QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Mar 28 2017, 09:56 AM)
If you chosen the casing that FD Node 202 will be the one, just take the one directly with Integra PSU eventho is 450 but is sufficient enough for your 1060.
is a good case, just a lot of people say the airflow not really that good, because inside very cramps..
personal advice, go and buy proc cooler (low profile), if you lazy to measure the height, you can go to pcpartpicker to play around.

For HDD, DO NOT go for 3,5". you only advised to use 2,5" for this case. but your mobo if not mistaken can put m.2 (2280) disk. so total it can cater 3 disk.
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Thank you so much for your input friends. However, I have to say, after looking at current gaming laptops and current circumstance, getting a laptop may be the best for me instead of building a pc, since I'll be moving between two countries and won't have the privilege of being able to be with my desktop for a long time. It's quite sad when I discovered today's gaming laptops have come up to speed, because that means I won't be able to build a precious new pc sad.gif it won't be a hobby I'll be doing anymore; instead of picking up parts and putting them together, seeing all my hard work culminate into a beautiful, powerful machine, it'll be just like buying a toy; buy laptop, play it straight. No thrill of pc building, no new hobby to explore, just playing games on an expensive new toy. It really is sad. I have however learnt a lot, and maybe one day will put all this knowledge into good use.

QUOTE(richard912 @ Mar 27 2017, 03:29 PM)
Gaming notebooks come in a myriad of configs and of course, price. It will definitely cost more than desktop, the price paid for portability. Maybe you could take a look at this.
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That being said, thank you for directing me to this link and ultimately looking at gaming laptops more seriously. I never knew of Nvidia's new pascal architecture and today's laptops being quite decent (although expensive, but as you said, the price paid for portability).

I'm not sad lah, jk only, though I'd love to build a pc, it's not something I can afford (circumstance-wise), and these gaming laptops look really sick. Looking to buy an illegear s5 with kabylake proc and 1070.

Thank you for everything lovely people, and with that, I am moving over to the laptop recommendation thread over at special interest > mobile computing icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hey guys I got a new job so I will be travelling a lot more for work. Need your help to suggest a good build for my purpose. [Budget]
Doesn't matter as long as fits my purpose.

[Purpose]
Gaming while outstation and also something I can just plug in when I go home. I currently have an outdated 900D build with all the bells and whistles but it weighs 30kg. Planning to turn the old pc into media hub/storage server for photos. Kinda Sayang the Intel 4930K but I want to use M2 SSDs for my new build.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None. Maybe a couple of SSD. Peripherals and monitors are all there though.

[Monitor resolution]
Planning to use a projector when travelling or hdmi to the hotel TV. My home monitor is the XR341CK but I have no problem selling it off and buying the Gsync version

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Most often Battlefield, Overwatch and Rainbow Six Siege. I do play a lot of other games like Hitman and even emulators.

[Personal preferences]
I would really like a portable system that I can just carry and transport easily in my car and when I get home just plug into my USB hub and monitor. But at the same time I don't want to compromise on power. Please help me dear sifus =D

Edit: I know the current gen of laptops have almost full blown GPUs in them but I'd rather avoid them if possible due to their limited upgrade potential. Anyway I plan on using wireless keyboard and mouse.

[Location]
Pahang. Pekan

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Mar 31 2017, 10:49 AM)
Hey guys I got a new job so I will be travelling a lot more for work. Need your help to suggest a good build for my purpose. [Budget]
Doesn't matter as long as fits my purpose.

[Purpose]
Gaming while outstation and also something I can just plug in when I go home. I currently have an outdated 900D build with all the bells and whistles but it weighs 30kg.

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None. Maybe a couple of SSD. Peripherals and monitors are all there though.

[Monitor resolution]
Planning to use a projector when travelling or hdmi to the hotel TV. My home monitor is the XR341CK but I have no problem selling it off and buying the Gsync version

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Most often Battlefield, Overwatch and Rainbow Six Siege. I do play a lot of other games like Hitman and even emulators.

[Personal preferences]
I would really like a portable system that I can just carry and transport easily in my car and when I get home just plug into my USB hub and monitor.  But at the same time I don't want to compromise on power. Please help me dear sifus =D

[Location]
Pahang. Pekan
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No budget? How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte H270N-WIFI - 649
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Zotac GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Mini - 2629
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Black 1TB 2.5" - 302
Silverstone SFX 600W - 585
Silverstone RVZ02 case - 399 (estimated)

RM7072 total (C-Zone prices)

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 31 2017, 10:57 AM)
No budget? How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte H270N-WIFI - 649
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Zotac GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Mini - 2629
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Black 1TB 2.5" - 302
Silverstone SFX 600W - 585
Silverstone RVZ02 case - 399 (estimated)

RM7072 total (C-Zone prices)
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Thanks bro. If I wait abit any chance I can get a 1080Ti in there?
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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Mar 31 2017, 11:46 AM)
Thanks bro. If I wait  abit any chance I can get a 1080Ti in there?
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Yeah, you can get MSI GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE at RM3699

If you wanna squeeze every bit of performance, you can switch to these

Core i7-7700K - 1579
Noctua NH-L12 - 285
ASUS ROG STRIX Z270I GAMING - 1003

No Ryzen ITX motherboards yet.

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Budget : RM4500-5000
Requirements :
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AMD RX470
32gb ram

Can anyone help to recommend the full setup ?
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[B][Budget]1.7K without Monitor

[Purpose] College Magazine editor. Thousand of photo and article to edit and arranged. (Main Storage)

[Monitor resolution] doesnt matter

[Games & softwares that use frequently] photoshop. office

[Personal preferences]
For my editing work. which one is important? having a high memory RAM or Proc or just high end GC.

[Location]
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Mar 31 2017, 01:59 PM)
Budget : RM4500-5000
Requirements :
i7
SSD 500 gb
at least 1tb HDD
AMD RX470
32gb ram

Can anyone help to recommend the full setup ?
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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 32GB (16GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 1040
Sapphire RX470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ OC - RM 998
WD Blue 500GB SSD - RM 730
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 5014 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(silent_screamerz @ Mar 31 2017, 02:53 PM)
[B][Budget]1.7K without Monitor

[Purpose] College Magazine editor. Thousand of photo and article to edit and arranged. (Main Storage)

[Monitor resolution] doesnt matter

[Games & softwares that use frequently] photoshop. office

[Personal preferences]
For my editing work. which one is important? having a high memory RAM or Proc or just high end GC.

[Location]
KL
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Depends on the features (3D, render, brush resizing etc.) that you are going to use in PS, some require GPU, some don't need, some won't run without dedicated GPU.

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Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1424
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 32GB (16GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 1040
Sapphire RX470 4GB GDDR5 Nitro+ OC - RM 998
WD Blue 500GB SSD - RM 730
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 5014 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
Depends on the features (3D, render, brush resizing etc.) that you are going to use in PS, some require GPU, some don't need, some won't run without dedicated GPU.
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Able to make it in micro ATX and liquid cooling ?
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Anyone can give me a short brief about what is SSD? Please make it short and easy to understand as I search over the article about the SSD and HDD. It is very confusing me.

1) I know SSD can read, write data faster and also start up window faster, but does it store data as well? or it just help to boots the HDD become faster?

2) If I get a SSD, do I still need the HDD?

3) I saw some SSD is like a ram stick that plug on the mother board and some is just like normal hard drive. sSo what's the difference between these two models.

4) The SDD storage is way smaller than HDD. So how many gb is recommend to take? and what's the price?

Thanks in advance.

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One more thing, anyone can recommend me a mid tower ddr4 mobo with rgb or led?

Budget 750

Prefer ASUS
MSI

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[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After Effect , Sony Vegas pro , Dota2 , CSGO , GTA5

[Personal preferences] I want a ssd in this build since I alreaday have a HDD
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[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker, hard disk

[Monitor resolution] 1080p maybe will upgrade to 4k tv or monitor in future

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Triple A games like GTA 5, The Witcher 3, Adobe Photoshop

[Personal preferences] if possible must include gtx1060 6gb

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Anyone can give me a short brief about what is SSD? Please make it short and easy to understand as I search over the article about the SSD and HDD. It is very confusing me.

1) I know SSD can read, write data faster and also start up window faster, but does it store data as well? or it just help to boots the HDD become faster?

2) If I get a SSD, do I still need the HDD?

3) I saw some SSD is like a ram stick that plug on the mother board and some is just like normal hard drive. sSo what's the difference between these two models.

4) The SDD storage is way smaller than HDD. So how many gb is recommend to take? and what's the price?

Thanks in advance.
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SSD is just like a HDD as in they can store informations. Just like a pendrive and a SD card.

1) It is faster than a HDD thats why ppl use it to boot games or OS(windows). They store information differently using different technology. It does not help to boost the HDD they are 2 completely different type of drives.

2) if you want to, but not necessary. However the main reason people go for both is because SSD cost much more per GB compared to HDD. So they will keep the OS and games in SSD to load faster and other files such as pictures in HDD. A 1 TB SSD can cost more than RM 1000 whereas 1 TB of HDD cost only RM200+

3) Those that look like a RAM sticks is called a NVME SSD it has few advantages e.g takes up less space and is faster than a regular SSD (last I checked this is true). However you have to make sure your MOBO has this M.2 slot for the NVME SSD.

4) Prices varies but generally a 120 GB SSD cost around RM 250 whereas the 1 TB SSD can cost up to RM 2000. I personally think that the 120 GB is enough just to put OS and a few games in there. Unless money is not a problem then go for as much as you can afford biggrin.gif

Hope I helped you
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QUOTE(vDARKv @ Apr 1 2017, 03:37 PM)
Anyone can give me a short brief about what is SSD? Please make it short and easy to understand as I search over the article about the SSD and HDD. It is very confusing me.

1) I know SSD can read, write data faster and also start up window faster, but does it store data as well? or it just help to boots the HDD become faster?

2) If I get a SSD, do I still need the HDD?

3) I saw some SSD is like a ram stick that plug on the mother board and some is just like normal hard drive. sSo what's the difference between these two models.

4) The SDD storage is way smaller than HDD. So how many gb is recommend to take? and what's the price?

Thanks in advance.
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They serve the similar purpose which is to store data (a.k.a storage drive). SSD stores data in the flash memory while HDD stores data in the magnetic storage.

1. SSD doesn't boost the performance of HDD, they work independently. The recently announced Intel Optane memory is the one you are looking for if you want something that can boost the performance of HDD as it is served as a caching drive (you need a compatible 7th gen Intel CPU and mobo to use this feature).

2. And do you need HDD if you already bought SSD? This depends on you, SSD is expensive and usually we still rely on HDD to store files as they are much cheaper than SSD.

3. That's an SSD in M.2 form factor, it can run on SATA or even PCIe NVMe mode, if it is a M.2 SSD with SATA interface then the main difference with normal 2.5" SATA SSD is just the size.

4. As mentioned earlier, SSD is expensive, usually we only use it for OS and frequently used files/apps. 240GB is the standard/common size nowadays. 120GB is around RM 300 while 240GB is around RM 500 (depends on the brand and the price is based on SATA SSD, PCIe NVMe SSD is more expensive).

QUOTE(vDARKv @ Apr 1 2017, 03:41 PM)
One more thing, anyone can recommend me a mid tower ddr4 mobo with rgb or led?

Budget 750

Prefer ASUS
        MSI
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QUOTE(fwzfhmy @ Apr 1 2017, 04:24 PM)
[B][Budget] RM3.5k-3.7K

[Purpose] Gaming record, video editing , gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] non

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Adobe Photoshop, Adobe After Effect , Sony Vegas pro , Dota2 , CSGO , GTA5

[Personal preferences] I want a ssd in this build since I alreaday have a HDD
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AMD Ryzen is coming soon (11 Apr), 4C8T Ryzen 5 is quite suitable (and cheaper than 4C8T i7) for your usage, are you able to wait for another 11 days (+/-)? If cannot then you will have to stick with Intel Core i5 (4C4T).

Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 854
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Samsung 850 EVO 120GB SSD - RM 285
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149
ViewSonic VA2419H IPS - RM 515

Total: RM 3741 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(darkside7 @ Apr 1 2017, 06:36 PM)
[B][Budget] RM 3000 - 3500 Max

[Purpose] Gaming and some Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker, hard disk

[Monitor resolution] 1080p maybe will upgrade to 4k tv or monitor in future

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Triple A games like GTA 5, The Witcher 3, Adobe Photoshop

[Personal preferences] if possible must include gtx1060 6gb

thanks in advance
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Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 386
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3395 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 1 2017, 11:49 PM)

Total: RM 3741 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1229
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 386
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 3395 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)
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thanks terence. but if i have to remove Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 386 from the budget which hardware should i top up / upgrade with for better specs? since i'll reuse my old hard drive instead. thanks again
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thanks terence. but if i have to remove Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 386 from the budget which hardware should i top up / upgrade with for better specs? since i'll reuse my old hard drive instead. thanks again
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terence_nwb how do you make a 3 monitors setup by using 1 gpu ? for example my gpu have 1 DVI-I, 1 Hdmi, and 2 DP
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terence_nwb how do you make a 3 monitors setup by using 1 gpu ? for example my gpu have 1 DVI-I, 1 Hdmi, and 2 DP
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Depends on the display connector of your monitor, if you have 2 monitors with DisplayPort and 1 with HDMI then it is quite straight forward, just use the respective display connector of your GPU and connect to the monitor, then press "Windows key + P" and choose "Extend".

If your monitor doesn't have DisplayPort (only HDMI or DVI) then you need to buy adapter (DP-to-HDMI).


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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Mar 31 2017, 05:47 PM)
Able to make it in micro ATX and liquid cooling ?
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Can do a requote bro?

Budget : 5k +-
Usage :
I) Play games like witcher in high settings. So this should cover all those Dota2 , CSGO and so on.
ii) Run 3 VMs at the same time
iii) Run in 3 monitors
Processor : fastest and stable
GC : fastest and stable according to usage above
RAM : 32 GB Above
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SSD : 500 GB Above
HDD : 2 TB Above

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Apr 2 2017, 05:04 PM)
Can do a requote bro?

Budget : 5k +-
Usage :
I) Play games like witcher in high settings. So this should cover all those Dota2 , CSGO and so on.
ii) Run 3 VMs at the same time
iii) Run in 3 monitors
Processor  : fastest and stable
GC : fastest and stable according to usage above
RAM : 32 GB Above
Chassis : Micro ATX
Cooling : Liquid cooling and without Liquid Cooling
SSD : 500 GB Above
HDD : 2 TB Above
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That is unrealistic.

Ryzen 7 1700 RM1599
MSI B350M Mortar RM480
Kingston Value 2x16GB DDR4 RAM RM998
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC RM1299 [Ehhh, you want fastest? GTX1080 Ti costs 3599]
Intel 600p 512GB SSD RM886
Hitachi 2TB HDD RM429
FSP Hyper 500W PSU RM279
Casing RM200

Total : RM6170
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Apr 2 2017, 05:29 PM)
That is unrealistic.

Ryzen 7 1700 RM1599
MSI B350M Mortar RM480
Kingston Value 2x16GB DDR4 RAM RM998
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC RM1299 [Ehhh, you want fastest? GTX1080 Ti costs 3599]
Intel 600p 512GB SSD RM886
Hitachi 2TB HDD RM429
FSP Hyper 500W PSU RM279
Casing RM200

Total : RM6170
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Thanks bro. Yeah it seems to be unrealistic ..

Compare 1060 and RX 480 ? Which one would you recommend ?

And Micro ATX and Mini ITX ? May I know what's the diff ? I am travelling around and do hope to have a smaller chassis .. That's why i wanted liquid cooling to cool down the hardware ..

Did not realise that Mini ITX is even smaller. Would actually like to have mini ITX now lol.

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Apr 2 2017, 10:58 PM)
Thanks bro. Yeah it  seems to be unrealistic ..

Compare 1060 and RX 480 ? Which one would you recommend ?

And Micro ATX and Mini ITX ? May I know what's the diff ? I am travelling around and do hope to have a smaller chassis .. That's why i wanted liquid cooling to cool down the hardware ..

Did not realise that Mini ITX is even smaller. Would actually like to have mini ITX now lol.
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GTX 1060 6GB definitely faster and consumes less power, more expensive too.

Currently no ITX motherboard available for Ryzen. You have to go Intel path for it. ITX is also more expensive to build.

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Asrock B150M-ITX - 359
Kingston Value 2x16GB DDR4 RAM RM998
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC RM1299 [Ehhh, you want fastest? GTX1080 Ti costs 3599]
Intel 600p 512GB SSD RM886
Hitachi 2TB HDD RM429
Silverstone SFX 550W - 499
Silverstone ML08B case - 339 (estimated)

RM6208 total (changed parts prices from Viewnet)

Kindly take note Ryzen 7 will blow i7-7700 away on multitasking.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 3 2017, 02:24 AM)
GTX 1060 6GB definitely faster and consumes less power, more expensive too.
Cheapest GTX 1060 6GB costs less than RX 480 8GB, and just a little more than the RX 480 4GB.

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Cheapest GTX 1060 6GB costs less than RX 480 8GB, and just a little more than the RX 480 4GB.
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Hi what is the best monitor for rm500 budget? thanks
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Hi what is the best monitor for rm500 budget? thanks
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Depends on your requirements, IPS (for better viewing angle and color gamut support) or 1ms (for fast pace games but it's a TN panel).
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Depends on your requirements, IPS (for better viewing angle and color gamut support) or 1ms (for fast pace games but it's a TN panel).
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i would like to get an IPS panel
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i would like to get an IPS panel
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Dell S2216H RM539
Asus VC239N RM530
LG 22MP48HQ RM408
LG 23MP68VQ RM541

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Dell S2216H RM539
Asus VC239N RM530
LG 22MP48HQ RM408
LG 23MP68VQ RM541
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Where do you get the pricing? I saw it is much cheaper than etech or lazada
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Where do you get the pricing? I saw it is much cheaper than etech or lazada
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The Dell is Idealtech. The others from C-zone. It is just a general guide. Good if you can get cheaper
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Apr 3 2017, 12:21 PM)
Dell S2216H RM539
Asus VC239N RM530
LG 22MP48HQ RM408
LG 23MP68VQ RM541
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Which one is the best between these 4 models? i think the lg 23MP68VQ has fresync?

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Which one is the best between these 4 models? i think the lg 23MP68VQ has fresync?
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Yes, you are right. 23MP68VQ has freesync. Not sure what GPU you are using/planning to use. But between the other 3, I would go for the Asus since it is a 23" and the design looks nice
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Apr 3 2017, 01:38 PM)
Yes, you are right. 23MP68VQ has freesync. Not sure what GPU you are using/planning to use. But between the other 3, I would go for the Asus since it is a 23" and the design looks nice
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Ah only the 23MP68VQ has freesync in that list, so i guess ill get the 23MP68VQ for future proof purposes. As i will get a new pc with amd gpu soon. Thanks for your help bro.
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QUOTE(philip42 @ Apr 3 2017, 01:42 PM)
Ah only the 23MP68VQ has freesync in that list, so i guess ill get the 23MP68VQ for future proof purposes. As i will get a new pc with amd gpu soon. Thanks for your help bro.
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If you are planning to get an AMD GPU, that would be the better choice. You will be able to get 75Hz with Freesync
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[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

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Wanna Build A PC for Office Work

[Budget] About RM 1700? No Need monitor

[Purpose] For Office Work, Surfing and Video Watching

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1680x1050

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MS Office Suites, VLC, Chrome
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MOBO - MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS RM270
RAM - 8Gb Kingston DDR4-2133 RM265
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB RM212
Case - Techware F3 RM124
PSU - Corsair VS450W RM184

Total - RM1569 based on C-Zone price

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4-5k, 5-6k but i m not sure of budget coz only few games i play as below. I will not play first person shooter?
[Purpose]
Main: Gaming. 2nd is office related work. So i need MS Office & Windows.
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
nil.
[Monitor resolution]
Wide screen 22inch maybe, I do not know. Those large size monitor used by CC?
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
XCOM2, HON, DOTA2
[Personal preferences]
In my mind now, maybe go for Asus gaming desktop?? it has to be full SSD. can recommend me other than ASUS?

Can also recommemnd best for bucks computer?
[Location] KL

Please help.

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QUOTE(demetry @ Apr 3 2017, 10:41 PM)
[B][Budget]
4-5k, 5-6k but i m not sure of budget coz only few games i play as below. I will not play first person shooter?
[Purpose]
Main: Gaming. 2nd is office related work. So i need MS Office & Windows.
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
nil.
[Monitor resolution]
Wide screen 22inch maybe, I do not know. Those large size monitor used by CC?
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
XCOM2, HON, DOTA2
[Personal preferences]
In my mind now, maybe go for Asus gaming desktop?? it has to be full SSD. can recommend me other than ASUS?

Can also recommemnd best for bucks computer?
[Location] KL

Please help.
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How about these?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5263 total (C-Zone prices)

Optional:
Transcend 370 512GB - 975
Seagate 2TB - 313

Hunt for cheap office and windows from lelong and garage sales. I still advise not getting full SSD because it is not budget friendly.
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there is cheap ori Windows 10 Pro selling in lelong.com . Bought mine @ RM50/license you can find it there
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[Purpose] Dota 2 max settings >100fps

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota2, browsing

[Personal preferences] Nvidia

[Location] KL, setapak

budget exclude monitor, kb, mouse.
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Apr 4 2017, 08:57 AM)
[Budget] 2000-2500

[Purpose] Dota 2 max settings >100fps

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota2, browsing

[Personal preferences] Nvidia

[Location] KL, setapak

budget exclude monitor, kb, mouse.
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CPU - CORE I3 7100 RM514
MOBO - ASUS H110M-K RM279
RAM - 8Gb Kingston DDR4-2133 RM265
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB RM212
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1050TI 4G D5 OC RM745
Case - Techware F3 RM124
PSU - Corsair VS550W RM248

Total - RM2387 based on C-Zone price
Optional : SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 120Gb RM286
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[Budget] 2000-2500

[Purpose] Dota 2 max settings >100fps

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota2, browsing

[Personal preferences] Nvidia

[Location] KL, setapak

budget exclude monitor, kb, mouse.
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Intel Core i3 7100 - RM 522
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 255
Palit GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 565
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 169
Tecware Edge - RM 149

Total: RM 2138 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

You may add an SSD if needed.
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CPU - CORE I3 7100 RM514
MOBO - ASUS H110M-K RM279
RAM - 8Gb Kingston DDR4-2133 RM265
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1TB RM212
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1050TI 4G D5 OC RM745
Case - Techware F3 RM124
PSU - Corsair VS550W RM248

Total - RM2387 based on C-Zone price
Optional : SSD - Samsung 850 EVO 120Gb RM286
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 3 2017, 11:25 PM)
How about these?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 T OC - 1300
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Corsair Spec (pick your model) case - 299

RM5263 total (C-Zone prices)

Optional:
Transcend 370 512GB - 975
Seagate 2TB - 313

Hunt for cheap office and windows from lelong and garage sales. I still advise not getting full SSD because it is not budget friendly.
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Noticed that you like to recommend Ryzen 7 1700. Not sure how it is compared to i7 7700k ?

In terms of stability ? I am sure Ryzen 7 1700 is faster than 7700k right ?

Whats the pro and cons for each processor ?
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there is cheap ori Windows 10 Pro selling in lelong.com . Bought mine @ RM50/license you can find it there
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Is it really reliable? Saw it in Lazada too. How is it possible to sell for RM50. Retail price I guess around RM400++.
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Apr 4 2017, 10:06 AM)
Noticed that you like to recommend Ryzen 7 1700. Not sure how it is compared to i7 7700k ?

In terms of stability ? I am sure Ryzen 7 1700 is faster than 7700k right ?

Whats the pro and cons for each processor ?
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Ryzen 7-1700 Pros:
8 cores 16 threads (Should rollover i7-7700K when apps and games utilizes it)
Unlocked for overclocking (may require motherboards with better VRM and better heatsink)

Cons:
Low clock speed is bad for single thread performance
Slower for today's gaming performance

Core i7-7700K Pros:
Very high stock clock speed (Better for single threaded performance)
Intel optimized apps and games
Unlocked for overclocking (may require motherboards with better VRM and better heatsink)

Cons:
4 cores 8 threads

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Is it really reliable? Saw it in Lazada too. How is it possible to sell for RM50. Retail price I guess around RM400++.
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Guys need some recommendation. Around 3k is it possible to build a decent rig for streaming?
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Guys need some recommendation. Around 3k is it possible to build a decent rig for streaming?
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Samsung 850 Ev0 120GB - 286
Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Thermaltake V3 case - 169

RM2912 total (C-Zone prices)

Supports Netflix 4k too.
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1352
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Samsung 850 Ev0 120GB - 286
Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Thermaltake V3 case - 169

RM2912 total (C-Zone prices)

Supports Netflix 4k too.
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Sorry I left out I want to live stream on YouTube and Twitch.
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Sorry I left out I want to live stream on YouTube and Twitch.
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Yes, that should be fine. Unless it is gaming then it will be difficult.

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[B][Budget] 4k+/-

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard Mouse and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch

[Personal preferences] Monitor with 144hz such as BenQ XL2430, SSD, Windows10.

[Location] KL

Quite urgent, need this rig to be done before Friday as I will need to deliver it to Singapore.
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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Apr 4 2017, 06:14 PM)
[B][Budget] 4k+/-

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Keyboard Mouse and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] Full HD

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Overwatch

[Personal preferences] Monitor with 144hz such as BenQ XL2430, SSD, Windows10.

[Location] KL

Quite urgent, need this rig to be done before Friday as I will need to deliver it to Singapore.
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This is a tough one, because an entry level BenQ 1080p 144Hz monitor will take ~1.3k already, and you need another RM 400+ for a 240GB SSD sweat.gif

If you only play Overwatch then you can save some money by going for GTX1050Ti instead of GTX1060 (or other equivalent cards).

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 922
Asus H110M-K - RM 259
G.SKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 255
Gigabyte GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 OC - RM 739
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 195
Tecware Edge - RM 149
BenQ Zowie XL2411 - RM 1299

Total: RM 4501 (E TECH price inclusive of GST)

Hunt in Garage Sales for "cheap" Windows 10 key, beware of counterfeit code though.
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Hi all,

Been out of the customizing game for far too long with work and whatnot so need some help here on upgrading my 8 year old rig. I'm looking to upgrade my rig for work.

[Budget] 2000-3000, perhaps even top up from selling my current rig (maybe about 1.5k more?)

[Purpose] I'm a creative director for an agency, so will need use Adobe's CC quite abit. Ill also need to run some serious Excel spreadsheets

[Games & software that use frequently] Adobe CC, LOTS of MS Office

[Personal preferences] Looking to get out of the world of AMD and dive into the i7 Kaby Lake and need suggestions on what i should change and what i can keep as i find my rig is not performing up to par and my SP4 is faster.

[Location] Setia Alam

My current build (about 8 years old now except for the mobo which i just changed last year) :
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
Heatsink: Thermalright TRUE Black
Mobo: ASUS M5A99X Evo R2.0
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB
GC: Sapphire ATi hd4870
PSU: VANTEC 620C
Casing: Cooler Master HAF 932
RAM: Dont know what brand DDR3 1333 2GB X 2 and recently bought 1x ADATA Premier DDR3L 1600 8GB

No need for a monitor as i already have 2 and am happy with them.

Thanks in advance!

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QUOTE(dryll @ Apr 4 2017, 11:50 PM)
Hi all,

Been out of the customizing game for far too long with work and whatnot so need some help here on upgrading my 8 year old rig. I'm looking to upgrade my rig for work.

[Budget] 2000-3000, perhaps even top up from selling my current rig (maybe about 1.5k more?)

[Purpose]  I'm a creative director for an agency, so will need use Adobe's CC quite abit. Ill also need to run some serious Excel spreadsheets

[Games & software that use frequently] Adobe CC, LOTS of MS Office

[Personal preferences] Looking to get out of the world of AMD and dive into the i7 Kaby Lake and need suggestions on what i should change and what i can keep as i find my rig is not performing up to par and my SP4 is faster.

[Location] Setia Alam

My current build (about 8 years old now except for the mobo which i just changed last year) :
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
Heatsink: Thermalright TRUE Black
Mobo: ASUS M5A99X Evo R2.0
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB
GC: Sapphire ATi hd4870
PSU: VANTEC 620C
Casing: Cooler Master HAF 932
RAM: Dont know what brand DDR3 1333 2GB X 2 and recently bought 1x ADATA Premier DDR3L 1600 8GB

No need for a monitor as i already have 2 and am happy with them.

Thanks in advance!
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How about these?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
Reuse the rest of the parts

RM3954 total (C-Zone prices)

Optional:
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W (high quality PSU) - 429

Much more powerful than your current and consumes significantly less power. You can find cheap Windows 10 Pro on lelong or Garage Sales.

But if you wanna insist on overpriced i7-7700K due to our distributors reluctant to drop the price, you can go for these

Core i7-7700K - 1579
Coolermaster Hyper 212X - 189 (not needed if your existing TRUE black has mounting for LGA 1156 or 1155)
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 719
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
Reuse the rest of the parts

RM4542 total (C-Zone prices)

Optional:
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W (high quality PSU) - 429

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Dear Sifus,

Thinking of upgrading my PC slowly. My PC current specs as below. I am thinking of changing the casing to a more low profile casing and also my PSU is it good enough to support my future use? Do i need to Upgrade my PSU?

ASUS P8Z77-V LX
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Corsair Vengence 1600 8GB DDR3 Ram
Leadtek GTX6700
Corsair CX500 PSU
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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Apr 5 2017, 01:03 PM)
Dear Sifus,

Thinking of upgrading my PC slowly. My PC current specs as below. I am thinking of changing the casing to a more low profile casing and also my PSU is it good enough to support my future use? Do i need to Upgrade my PSU?

ASUS P8Z77-V LX
Intel I5-3570k
Corsair Vengence 1600 8GB DDR3 Ram
Leadtek GTX6700
Corsair CX500 PSU
Aerocool Strike X ATX
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Not exactly sure what you mean by "upgrade your PC slowly" but your current mobo is ATX so, what ever case you intend to change to must be capable of hosting ATX mobo. "small" ATX case to consider are Fractal Design Define C, NXZT S340, Corsair 400C. As for the 500W PSUfrom Corsair and based on the list of items you provided, is sufficient, no need to upgrade for now.
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need a new mobo only...
[Budget] = 3k plus a bit.. less than 3.5k

[Purpose] = gaming...... gaming......

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = need extra slot for old hdd

[Monitor resolution] = reuse old

[Games & softwares that use frequently] = new game...

[Personal preferences] = intel board

[Location] = kl

thanks sifu...
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QUOTE(calapia @ Apr 5 2017, 02:57 PM)
need a new mobo only...
[Budget] = 3k plus a bit.. less than 3.5k

[Purpose] = gaming...... gaming......

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = need extra slot for old hdd

[Monitor resolution] = reuse old

[Games & softwares that use frequently] = new game...

[Personal preferences] = intel board

[Location] = kl

thanks sifu...
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This is so confusing. Will give it a try assuming your old monitor is 1980x1080:

CPU - CORE I5 7500 RM880
MOBO - ASUS H110M-K RM279
RAM - 1 x 8Gb KINGSTON D4 PC2133 RM265
SSD - SAMSUNG 850 EVO 120GB RM286
HDD - Re-use
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1060 6G D5 WINDFORCE RM1385
PSU - Silverstone ES230 600W RM249
Case - Techware F3 RM124

Total - RM3468 based on C-zone price
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Apr 5 2017, 04:00 PM)
This is so confusing. Will give it a try assuming your old monitor is 1980x1080:

CPU - CORE I5 7500 RM880
MOBO - ASUS H110M-K RM279
RAM - 1 x 8Gb KINGSTON D4 PC2133 RM265
SSD - SAMSUNG 850 EVO 120GB RM286
HDD - Re-use
GPU - GIGABYTE GTX1060 6G D5 WINDFORCE RM1385
PSU - Silverstone ES230 600W RM249
Case - Techware F3 RM124

Total - RM3468 based on C-zone price
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Thanks bro... yes yes my old monitor is 1980x1080....
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Dear sifu

Im planning to upgrade my rig as my pc starting to black screen itself when im playing game and i've been told it might be my gpu or psu problem. So far, the only solution is to downclock my gpu and im very annoyed by performing the same thing everytime before i launch a game. Please suggest what to upgrade.

My current spec. (Have 2-3k to spend)
Intel Core I5 3470
Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP
Gskill SNIPER 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz
WD 1TB Caviar Blue
XIGMATEK ASGARD PRO
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Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
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Is it really reliable? Saw it in Lazada too. How is it possible to sell for RM50. Retail price I guess around RM400++.
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I have been using it for few months... no issue... key works on first try

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QUOTE(92alvin @ Apr 5 2017, 07:17 PM)
Dear sifu

Im planning to upgrade my rig as my pc starting to black screen itself when im playing game and i've been told it might be my gpu or psu problem. So far, the only solution is to downclock my gpu and im very annoyed by performing the same thing everytime before i launch a game. Please suggest what to upgrade.

My current spec. (Have 2-3k to spend)
Intel Core I5 3470
Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP
Gskill SNIPER 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz
WD 1TB Caviar Blue
XIGMATEK ASGARD PRO
Enermax NAXN82+ 650W PSU
Leadtek GTX670 2GB DDR5
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
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Get a new GPU (likely to be GTX1060/RX480) and a new decent PSU like EVGA SuperNova/Superflower Leadex Gold series, both items will cost you less than 2k.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 5 2017, 08:19 PM)
Get a new GPU (likely to be GTX1060/RX480) and a new decent PSU like EVGA SuperNova/Superflower Leadex Gold series, both items will cost you less than 2k.
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thanks for the suggestion. what if im going for higher end gpu like gtx1070? any bottleneck with my current spec?
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thanks for the suggestion. what if im going for higher end gpu like gtx1070? any bottleneck with my current spec?
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If you are playing on full HD resolution, you will not notice the bottleneck, as GTX1070 already overkill for it. biggrin.gif
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thanks for the suggestion. what if im going for higher end gpu like gtx1070? any bottleneck with my current spec?
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Some CPU-bounded games will still show CPU bottleneck symptoms, it is just the matter of whether you can accept the bottleneck (a.k.a lower FPS compared to a GXT1070 with i7 CPU) or not.

Example of these games are Hitman 2016, Watch Dogs 2, TC: GR Wildlands etc, try to lower down the settings (those CPU-bounded one) to obtain a stable frame rate.
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I have been using it for few months... no issue... key works on first try

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Apr 5 2017, 01:55 PM)
Not exactly sure what you mean by "upgrade your PC slowly" but your current mobo is ATX so, what ever case you intend to change to must be capable of hosting ATX mobo. "small" ATX case to consider are Fractal Design Define C, NXZT S340, Corsair 400C. As for the 500W PSUfrom Corsair and based on the list of items you provided, is sufficient, no need to upgrade for now.
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What i mean is i am going to upgrade the components one by one. first by changing the casing cause my current casing is with 4 led fan and it's noisy so planing to change one first. I am looking at the Carbide Series® 100R Mid-Tower Case. can this fit to my rig?

I forgot to mention. i also have 2 x WD Blue 2TB HDD and a set of CM CPU cooler. Will the PSU sufficient to support my current rig? Future i am planning to upgrade to SSD and also add on my storage HDD because currently the HDD is almost full.
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QUOTE(donavan1986 @ Apr 6 2017, 07:24 AM)
What i mean is i am going to upgrade the components one by one. first by changing the casing cause my current casing is with 4 led fan and it's noisy so planing to change one first. I am looking at the Carbide Series® 100R Mid-Tower Case. can this fit to my rig?

I forgot to mention. i also have 2 x WD Blue 2TB HDD and a set of CM CPU cooler. Will the PSU sufficient to support my current rig? Future i am planning to upgrade to SSD and also add on my storage HDD because currently the HDD is almost full.
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500W PSU can sufficiently power 6 HDD, your current mobo and CPU along with the case fans you are planning. You just have to ensure the case you select will have sufficient clearance for the CPU cooler you plan to use
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Apr 6 2017, 10:26 AM)
500W PSU can sufficiently power 6 HDD, your current mobo and CPU along with the case fans you are planning. You just have to ensure the case you select will have sufficient clearance for the CPU cooler you plan to use
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Thanks a lot for your advise. The CPU Cooler i already have but i forgot about the model.
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hi plz help need some advice/suggestion, im currently using :

4790 [non k]
16gb ddr3
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small ssd [128gb] for windows
1tb black hdd
1x 4k@60 monitor + 1x 1080@60

is it worth it to buy a whole new pc (thinking of cpu like 7700k/ryzen1700, gpu 1080ti, 16gb ddr4, no reuse parts) or just upgrade parts (gpu & add another big ssd for games)? i scare buy new pc the improvement is minimal & is a waste of $
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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 6 2017, 06:50 PM)
hi plz help need some advice/suggestion, im currently using :

4790 [non k]
16gb ddr3
980 ti
small ssd [128gb] for windows
1tb black hdd
1x 4k@60 monitor + 1x 1080@60

is it worth it to buy a whole new pc (thinking of cpu like 7700k/ryzen1700, gpu 1080ti, 16gb ddr4, no reuse parts) or just upgrade parts (gpu & add another big ssd for games)? i scare buy new pc the improvement is minimal & is a waste of $
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You need to upgrade your GPU if you want more performance for 4k gaming. The rest is fine.
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Hi fellow seniors, I'm having a situation like such, with PC specs like below:-

Processor - Intel Core i5 4460
Cooler - Coolermaster Hyper 212+
Mobo - Some DDR3 Mobo
Ram - 4GB RAM DDR3 x 2 = 8GB
Graphics Card - Gigabyte GTX460 768MB OC Edition
PSU - Silverstone ST60F-ESB (80+ BRONZE)
Case - CoolerMaster HAF 922
SSD - Samsung 840 EVO 128GB

Is this spec is still adequate these days? As I open quite a lot Google chrome tabs, but it clashed, and my remaining storage from my SSD is only 12GB. Is it sufficient enough? Looking at DDR4, should I upgrade my mobo, just to get DDR4 8GB or should I get other 4GB DDR3 sticks to make into 12GB DDR3 instead?
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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Apr 6 2017, 10:00 PM)
Hi fellow seniors, I'm having a situation like such, with PC specs like below:-

Processor - Intel Core i5 4460
Cooler - Coolermaster Hyper 212+
Mobo - Some DDR3 Mobo
Ram - 4GB RAM DDR3 x 2 = 8GB
Graphics Card - Gigabyte GTX460 768MB OC Edition
PSU - Silverstone ST60F-ESB (80+ BRONZE)
Case - CoolerMaster HAF 922
SSD - Samsung 840 EVO 128GB

Is this spec is still adequate these days? As I open quite a lot Google chrome tabs, but it clashed, and my remaining storage from my SSD is only 12GB. Is it sufficient enough? Looking at DDR4,  should I upgrade my mobo, just to get DDR4 8GB or should I get other 4GB DDR3 sticks to make into 12GB DDR3 instead?
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Free up the space of your SSD, 8GB RAM is okay for normal usage pattern, but Chrome is known to consume a lot of memory when you open many tabs and Windows will automatically utilize your main OS drive (by default) for pagefile when your RAM is running low.

If insufficient RAM is really the root cause of Chrome occasional crash (you can check Task Manager to monitor the usage), try to get another 8GB DDR3 1333/1600MHz RAM, don't get DDR4 because it is not supported by your current system.
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[Budget] = 5k (rig only )

[Purpose] = gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = no

[Monitor resolution] = 1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] = gta 5 , dota 2 , csgo , fifa

[Personal preferences] = nvidia gpu , mobo with wifi and bluetooth , want max settings in all games at 1440p

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Hi, all sifu, please help me finish build rig based on following... notworthy.gif

[Budget] - RM4k (rig+monitor) can recommend me 1 matx build, 1normal atx

[Purpose] - casual gaming (not going overclock)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - none

[Monitor resolution] - 23inch 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - casual dota, some AAA title games casual

[Personal preferences], include ssd,


Cpu: i5 7400 - RM810
Hdd : Seagate barracuda 1TB-RM200
Ram :8gb (brand & cost??)
Mobo:.?
Gpu : 1060 6gb (zotac mini-RM1130,zotac amp-RM1230, msi normal 6gb version-RM1210) difference in temperature how much Celsius for mini vs amp??
Ssd :?? 128gb (brand & cost)
Psu:.?? Saw (RM189 for fsp hyper k 80+ white 500) is it suitable?
Case:??
Monitor: 23inch?? (asus vc239n price??, LG 23mp68vq, Samsung cf130) many option dunno which is good or bad...

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QUOTE(iskandarnazreen @ Apr 7 2017, 12:48 AM)
[Budget] = 5k (rig only )

[Purpose] = gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = no

[Monitor resolution] = 1440p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] = gta 5 , dota 2 , csgo , fifa

[Personal preferences] = nvidia gpu , mobo with wifi and bluetooth , want max settings in all games at 1440p

thank you in advance smile.gif
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Usually ITX boards has all those stuffs.

How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte H270N-WIFI - 649
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x1 - 260
Gigabyte GTX 1070 8GB DDR5 Windforce - 2055
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Coolermaster Elite 130 case - 199 (estimated)

RM5022 total (C-Zone prices)

You might wanna wait for Ryzen 5 next week and see how it performs

QUOTE(tanalvis @ Apr 7 2017, 01:11 AM)
Hi, all sifu, please help me finish build rig based on following...  notworthy.gif

[Budget] - RM4k (rig+monitor) can recommend me 1 matx build, 1normal atx

[Purpose] - casual gaming (not going overclock)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - none

[Monitor resolution] - 23inch 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - casual dota, some AAA title games casual

[Personal preferences], include ssd,
Cpu: i5 7400 - RM810
Hdd : Seagate barracuda 1TB-RM200
Ram :8gb (brand & cost??)
Mobo:.?
Gpu : 1060 6gb (zotac mini-RM1130,zotac amp-RM1230, msi normal 6gb version-RM1210) difference in temperature how much Celsius for mini vs amp??
Ssd :?? 128gb (brand & cost)
Psu:.?? Saw (RM189 for fsp hyper k 80+ white 500) is it suitable?
Case:??
Monitor: 23inch?? (asus vc239n price??, LG 23mp68vq, Samsung cf130) many option dunno which is good or bad...
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Would not recommend SSD at start of the build because you get more performance maxing out the base hardware. Anyway, price changes every week unless you plan to buy part by part from cheapest sellers.

Try looking for these

C-Zone sells Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 at 260
Gigabyte B250M-D3H (medium priced motherboard)
Corsair VS 550W (usually higher prices comes with better internals)
Casing is up to you
Also, monitor is up to you.

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 6 2017, 06:50 PM)
hi plz help need some advice/suggestion, im currently using :

4790 [non k]
16gb ddr3
980 ti
small ssd [128gb] for windows
1tb black hdd
1x 4k@60 monitor + 1x 1080@60

is it worth it to buy a whole new pc (thinking of cpu like 7700k/ryzen1700, gpu 1080ti, 16gb ddr4, no reuse parts) or just upgrade parts (gpu & add another big ssd for games)? i scare buy new pc the improvement is minimal & is a waste of $
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intel i7 4790 lga1150 haswell, 4 cores 8 threads, frequency 3.6ghz can last you another 3 to 5 years..

don't change to K series if you not intend to OC..

if you decided to get a i7 7700k, need to change mobo - Z270 platform

16gb ddr3 Ram is more than sufficient

GC also can last you another 2 or 3 years before need to upgrade

explanation: -

wait for 10nm / FinFET processor to be available as your i7 is 22nm

as RAM architecture - I would suggest ddr5 RAM, be ready in a year / two

SSD - get at least WD blue M.2 sata SSD 250gb in the future

so, conclusion is, just hold it for the moment, all your components are still feasible & powerful for now icon_idea.gif

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hi i need only a graphics card recommendation
1. STATE your budget : cheapest
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : browser, ms office, movie (movie not often). i use 2 monitors - one with hdmi and the other dvi
4. STATE your intended purchase date : asap
5. STATE your preference : no brand preference. just need a card that doesnt need external power, and doesnt overheat. i dont do any gaming. thanks in advance
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QUOTE(roadie @ Apr 7 2017, 11:06 AM)
hi i need only a graphics card recommendation
1. STATE your budget : cheapest
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : browser, ms office, movie (movie not often). i use 2 monitors - one with hdmi and the other dvi
4. STATE your intended purchase date : asap
5. STATE your preference : no brand preference. just need a card that doesnt need external power, and doesnt overheat. i dont do any gaming. thanks in advance
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Option 1:
Visit Garage Sales for second hand if you want dirt cheap ones.

Option 2:
Any RM100ish graphic card will do for a new one.

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Option 1:
Visit Garage Sales for second hand if you want dirt cheap ones.

Option 2:
Any RM100ish graphic card will do for a new one.
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thanks.
op1 i dont know enough about graphics card etc to know if im getting an ok unit. rather buy new.
op2 sounds like my best bet coz i dont want to spend over rm200. can u give me a model name so i can get one from digi mall now.
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thanks.
op1 i dont know enough about graphics card etc to know if im getting an ok unit. rather buy new.
op2 sounds like my best bet coz i dont want to spend over rm200. can u give me a model name so i can get one from digi mall now.
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Sapphire R5 230 at RM151 from C-Zone

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You need to upgrade your GPU if you want more performance for 4k gaming. The rest is fine.
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hi thanks very much for suggestion, after asking a few people i think i will just upgrade parts [gpu & ssd] as cpu [4790 to 7700 & ddr4] wont impact much at 4k

but if u dont mind can give me a build budget around 8~9k [rig only], just want to know what i can get for that price. i live at klang and thrs literally no good pc shop here, and i will have to go kl to quote price and such doh.gif
will use the format u guys suggest, thanks very much smile.gif

[Budget] 8~9k [rig only]

[Purpose] mostly gaming, sometimes capture and edit for fun, sometimes drawing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, mouse, keyboard, speaker, controller

[Monitor resolution] currently using 2 monitors - 4k@60hz and 1080@60hz

[Games & softwares that use frequently] 1.mostly mmos like ff14 wow tera black desert etc 2.overwatch diablo3 csgo hots hearthstone 3.some steam indie games and random titles 4.rarely play gtav and some other aaa titles
software - obs / nvidia shadowplay / amd playstv for capture, photoshop, clipstudio paint, sai tool paint

[Personal preferences] - amd intel nvidia is fine for me, but it would be great if u can give me 2 build [1 intel/1 amd] for comparison
- would hope if can put 5k+ in just cpu and gpu, the rest will go to other parts
- dont care bout the looks at all [but if got some extra $ dont mind put in some rgb and such] < would like to have very good cooling case
- dont prefer any water cooling inside the case [unless neccessary] < prefer beastly big air cooler [dont care bout light and such]
- never done oc before, so probably wont do it and can be ignore

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Apr 7 2017, 10:33 AM)
intel i7 4790 lga1150 haswell, 4 cores 8 threads, frequency 3.6ghz can last you another 3 to 5 years..

don't change to K series if you not intend to OC..

if you decided to get a i7 7700k, need to change mobo - Z270 platform

16gb ddr3 Ram is more than sufficient

GC also can last you another 2 or 3 years before need to upgrade

explanation: -

wait for 10nm / FinFET processor to be available as your i7 is 22nm

as RAM architecture - I would suggest ddr5 RAM, be ready in a year / two

SSD - get at least WD blue M.2 sata SSD 250gb in the future

so, conclusion is, just hold it for the moment, all your components are still feasible & powerful for now  icon_idea.gif
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hi thanks very much for suggestion, will take note thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 7 2017, 06:04 PM)
hi thanks very much for suggestion, after asking a few people i think i will just upgrade parts [gpu & ssd] as cpu [4790 to 7700 & ddr4] wont impact much at 4k

but if u dont mind can give me a build budget around 8~9k [rig only], just want to know what i can get for that price. i live at klang and thrs literally no good pc shop here, and i will have to go kl to quote price and such  doh.gif
will use the format u guys suggest, thanks very much  smile.gif

[Budget] 8~9k [rig only]

[Purpose] mostly gaming, sometimes capture and edit for fun, sometimes drawing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, mouse, keyboard, speaker, controller

[Monitor resolution] currently using 2 monitors - 4k@60hz and 1080@60hz

[Games & softwares that use frequently] 1.mostly mmos like ff14 wow tera black desert etc 2.overwatch diablo3 csgo hots hearthstone 3.some steam indie games and random titles 4.rarely play gtav and some other aaa titles
software - obs / nvidia shadowplay / amd playstv for capture, photoshop, clipstudio paint, sai tool paint

[Personal preferences] - amd intel nvidia is fine for me, but it would be great if u can give me 2 build [1 intel/1 amd] for comparison
- would hope if can put 5k+ in just cpu and gpu, the rest will go to other parts
- dont care bout the looks at all [but if got some extra $ dont mind put in some rgb and such] < would like to have very good cooling case
- dont prefer any water cooling inside the case [unless neccessary] < prefer beastly big air cooler [dont care bout light and such]
- never done oc before, so probably wont do it and can be ignore

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How about these?

Option 1:
Core i7-7700K (4C 8T) - 1579
Noctua NH-D15 - 415
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM8592 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700X (8C 16T) - 1899
Noctua NH-D15 (check for AM4 compatibility before buying this) - 415
Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 - 1029
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM9042 total (C-Zone prices)

You may want to overclock Ryzen setup because for some reason, it bottlenecks GTX 1070 and higher. Very likely Nvidia haven't optimize the driver for it.

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How about these?

Option 1:
Core i7-7700K (4C 8T) - 1579
Noctua NH-D15 - 415
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM8592 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700X (8C 16T) - 1899
Noctua NH-D15 (check for AM4 compatibility before buying this) - 415
Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5 - 1029
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
MSI GTX1080 Ti 11GB DDR5X FE - 3699
Samsung 850 Pro 256GB - 636
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W - 479
Corsair Carbide Air 540 case - 674

RM9042 total (C-Zone prices)

You may want to overclock Ryzen setup because for some reason, it bottlenecks GTX 1070 and higher. Very likely Nvidia haven't optimize the driver for it.
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nice thanks, gonna go see some reviews for each parts

btw it seems that amd is quite new and got some issues [optimization] including the cooler mounting u mention, which is main problem for me since i want more flexibility in cpu cooler. and i dont like to fix/update/optimize later since im not very good at the hardware bios thing

do u work at c-zone? i can come by and support support when im upgrading/buy new thumbsup.gif just to ty for helping
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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 7 2017, 10:34 PM)
nice thanks, gonna go see some reviews for each parts

btw it seems that amd is quite new and got some issues [optimization] including the cooler mounting u mention, which is main problem for me since i want more flexibility in cpu cooler. and i dont like to fix/update/optimize later since im not very good at the hardware bios thing

do u work at c-zone? i can come by and support support when im upgrading/buy new  thumbsup.gif  just to ty for helping
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Welcome.

Yeah, AMD Ryzen just launched a month ago.

Nope. I just help with specs around here.

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Please suggest a mid-range gaming setup for me. No GPU required (I'm going to reuse my GTX 970 for at least another year) and no power supply needed either (I have an extra Seasonic 620 unit).

I need at least 16 gigs of RAM and I want an SSD. Looking to spend around RM3k to RM4k without monitor or the above two parts.
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Please suggest a mid-range gaming setup for me. No GPU required (I'm going to reuse my GTX 970 for at least another year) and no power supply needed either (I have an extra Seasonic 620 unit).

I need at least 16 gigs of RAM and I want an SSD. Looking to spend around RM3k to RM4k without monitor or the above two parts.
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How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3361 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3592 total (C-Zone prices)

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 6 2017, 06:50 PM)
hi plz help need some advice/suggestion, im currently using :

4790 [non k]
16gb ddr3
980 ti
small ssd [128gb] for windows
1tb black hdd
1x 4k@60 monitor + 1x 1080@60

is it worth it to buy a whole new pc (thinking of cpu like 7700k/ryzen1700, gpu 1080ti, 16gb ddr4, no reuse parts) or just upgrade parts (gpu & add another big ssd for games)? i scare buy new pc the improvement is minimal & is a waste of $
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Not worth upgrading to new platform, since your usage is gaming only. Fyi, haswell is still quite powerful, and the difference between ddr3 and ddr4 is negligible, I bet u won't even notice it in daily usage lol, unless u run benchmark.

If u really want to upgrade, just get a bigger size ssd and gtx 1080 ti will do.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 8 2017, 01:51 PM)
How about these?

Core i7-7700 - 1399
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3361 total (C-Zone prices)

Option 2:
AMD Ryzen 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 x2 - 520
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB - 482
WD Blue (go for 7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair Spec case - 299

RM3592 total (C-Zone prices)
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Thanks for the suggestions. How big is a Windows 10 install these days? Is 250GB for the SSD enough for Windows plus some reasonable programs. At least the games need to be on the SSD as well.

Also looks like the Gigabyte B250M-D3H is specifically for AMD videocards since it has Crossfire support. Wouldn't it be appropriate to get something specifically for NVIDIA cards since I'll be using my old GTX 970 at least for a while yet?

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Thanks for the suggestions. How big is a Windows 10 install these days? Is 250GB for the SSD enough for Windows plus some reasonable programs. At least the games need to be on the SSD as well.

Also looks like the Gigabyte B250M-D3H is specifically for AMD videocards since it has Crossfire support. Wouldn't it be appropriate to get something specifically for NVIDIA cards since I'll be using my old GTX 970 at least for a while yet?
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Nope. Windows 10 with latest update doesn't even hit 80GB with all my software and tools installed.

And motherboard does not favor Nvidia or AMD. Just that it doesn't support SLI because it doesn't have the SLI chip required for 2 or more Nvidia cards.
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hi ts, may I suggest

Coolemaster seidon 120v v3 plus - cost around RM240

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 8 2017, 10:02 PM)
Nope. Windows 10 with latest update doesn't even hit 80GB with all my software and tools installed.

And motherboard does not favor Nvidia or AMD. Just that it doesn't support SLI because it doesn't have the SLI chip required for 2 or more Nvidia cards.
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Hmm, the Gigabyte B250M-D3H also doesn't support CPU graphics, right? It's a rarely used feature but I have found it useful in the past when troubleshooting GPU problems and I don't have a spare GPU on hand. Any alternative to this?
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 9 2017, 02:05 PM)
Hmm, the Gigabyte B250M-D3H also doesn't support CPU graphics, right? It's a rarely used feature but I have found it useful in the past when troubleshooting GPU problems and I don't have a spare GPU on hand. Any alternative to this?
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It does support. i7-7700 comes with built-in GPU.

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-D3H-rev-10#sp


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It does support. i7-7700 comes with built-in GPU.

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-D3H-rev-10#sp
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Huh. Checked it out together with some other motherboards and it said otherwise. Guess this site was wrong.

http://motherboards.specout.com/l/6522/GIGABYTE-GA-B250M-D3H
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Huh. Checked it out together with some other motherboards and it said otherwise. Guess this site was wrong.

http://motherboards.specout.com/l/6522/GIGABYTE-GA-B250M-D3H
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You are checking non-official site....
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Hi all. I just bought a GTX 980 and I am now deciding on which CPU I should get. The options are:

i5 4460=RM480
i7 4790=RM780

Is the RM300 increase worth it? I am gaming at 1080p. Looking for best bang for buck.
Going to buy Asrock H81M-VG4 for RM120 to complete my rig. Thanks.

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