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TristanX
post Apr 10 2017, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(piggy2008 @ Apr 10 2017, 12:18 AM)
Hi all. I just bought a GTX 980 and I am now deciding on which CPU I should get. The options are:

i5 4460=RM480
i7 4790=RM780

Is the RM300 increase worth it? I am gaming at 1080p. Looking for best bang for buck.
Going to buy Asrock H81M-VG4 for RM120 to complete my rig. Thanks.
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Yes, it is worth it. Games are getting more demanding....
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post Apr 10 2017, 01:09 AM

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Sapphire R5 230 at RM151 from C-Zone
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post Apr 10 2017, 12:22 PM

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hi im planning to get a desktop. hoping to get some recommendations from you guys.

1. STATE your budget : 2.5-3k
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : gaming (mostly league of legends, overwatch, dota2)
4. STATE your intended purchase date : 2 - 3 months
5. STATE your preference : no preference. as long as it works well.
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post Apr 10 2017, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Apr 10 2017, 12:22 PM)
hi im planning to get a desktop. hoping to get some recommendations from you guys.

1. STATE your budget : 2.5-3k
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : gaming (mostly league of legends, overwatch, dota2)
4. STATE your intended purchase date : 2 - 3 months
5. STATE your preference : no preference. as long as it works well.
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I suggest wait 2-3 months then ask again. AMD Ryzen 5 could shake things up on prices.
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post Apr 10 2017, 08:17 PM

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Hello Sifus,

Looking for your advise or suggestions regarding upgrading my old build. Is the current specs good enough to just upgrade the GPU to a new GTX 1070 without changing anything else except maybe upgrading the RAM to 2x 8gb DDR3 rams? Would like advise on if doing this would bottleneck the card or not as well or if which parts could be upgraded to avoid that.

Or would it be better to just spend RM 3-4k on a completely new setup that would be good to last for another 3-5 years?

The rig will be mainly be used for casual gaming on games like far cry primal, star wars battlefront, diablo 3, overwatch etc. Looking to get around a stable frame rate of around 70-80 fps averagely for a 24" 1920 x 1080 screen. Of course higher would be better.



Old Specs-

CPU - CORE I7 2600 @ 3.4 GHZ
MOBO - ASUS P8P67 LE REV 1.03
RAM - 2 x 4Gb Corsair DDR3 1333MHz
SSD - Sandisk 128gb
HDD - wd10ealx-009ba0
GPU - MSI N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II
PSU - CoolerMaster GX 650W
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Monitor - Samsung syncmaster bx2450 - 24", 1920 x 1080 (Looking to upgrade this to a 27" or 31" Screen as well if possible)

Thank you!


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post Apr 10 2017, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(teddymonster @ Apr 10 2017, 08:17 PM)
Hello Sifus,

Looking for your advise or suggestions regarding upgrading my old build. Is the current specs good enough to just upgrade the GPU to a new GTX 1070 without changing anything else except maybe upgrading the RAM to 2x 8gb DDR3 rams? Would like advise on if doing this would bottleneck the card or not as well or if which parts could be upgraded to avoid that.

Or would it be better to just spend RM 3-4k on a completely new setup that would be good to last for another 3-5 years?

The rig will be mainly be used for casual gaming on games like far cry primal, star wars battlefront, diablo 3, overwatch etc. Looking to get around a stable frame rate of around 70-80 fps averagely for a 24" 1920 x 1080 screen. Of course higher would be better. 
Old Specs-

CPU - CORE I7 2600 @ 3.4 GHZ
MOBO - ASUS P8P67 LE REV 1.03
RAM - 2 x 4Gb Corsair DDR3 1333MHz
SSD - Sandisk 128gb
HDD - wd10ealx-009ba0
GPU - MSI N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II
PSU - CoolerMaster GX 650W
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Monitor - Samsung syncmaster bx2450 - 24", 1920 x 1080 (Looking to upgrade this to a 27" or 31" Screen as well if possible)

Thank you!
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You just need to upgrade your graphic card. GTX 560 Ti is not powerful enough to max out at 1080p for today's game.

teddymonster
post Apr 10 2017, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2017, 08:24 PM)
You just need to upgrade your graphic card. GTX 560 Ti is not powerful enough to max out at 1080p for today's game.
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Alright. Will do that then. Thanks alot Tristan!
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post Apr 10 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(teddymonster @ Apr 10 2017, 08:17 PM)
Hello Sifus,

Looking for your advise or suggestions regarding upgrading my old build. Is the current specs good enough to just upgrade the GPU to a new GTX 1070 without changing anything else except maybe upgrading the RAM to 2x 8gb DDR3 rams? Would like advise on if doing this would bottleneck the card or not as well or if which parts could be upgraded to avoid that.

Or would it be better to just spend RM 3-4k on a completely new setup that would be good to last for another 3-5 years?

The rig will be mainly be used for casual gaming on games like far cry primal, star wars battlefront, diablo 3, overwatch etc. Looking to get around a stable frame rate of around 70-80 fps averagely for a 24" 1920 x 1080 screen. Of course higher would be better. 
Old Specs-

CPU - CORE I7 2600 @ 3.4 GHZ
MOBO - ASUS P8P67 LE REV 1.03
RAM - 2 x 4Gb Corsair DDR3 1333MHz
SSD - Sandisk 128gb
HDD - wd10ealx-009ba0
GPU - MSI N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II
PSU - CoolerMaster GX 650W
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Monitor - Samsung syncmaster bx2450 - 24", 1920 x 1080 (Looking to upgrade this to a 27" or 31" Screen as well if possible)

Thank you!
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I have seen few rigs with i7 2600 + GTX1070 combo and the CPU bottlenecks the GPU when running CPU demanding games, just make sure you lower down (if you don't mind) those CPU demanding settings in return for a more stable frame rate.
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post Apr 10 2017, 11:10 PM

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hi any1 buying stuff using credit card visa from lowyat pc shops recently? do they have any extra charges using credit card when buying new pc/parts? do they have extra service charge building new pc/upgrade pc?

i found a shop at web quite nice - http://www.idealtech.com.my/store/index.ph...ute=common/home

price almost same as lowyat but they can make ur pc nice nice, :
- Free Assembly & Installation
(for full rigs hardware purchased from Ideal Tech PC only)
- Update with Latest Hardware BIOS or Firmware & Latest Drivers
(We will flash the latest bios on motherboard and using latest graphic card drivers)

ive ask them they say got extra 2% charge for credit card, not sure if using half cash half credit card though
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post Apr 11 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 10 2017, 11:10 PM)
hi any1 buying stuff using credit card visa from lowyat pc shops recently? do they have any extra charges using credit card when buying new pc/parts? do they have extra service charge building new pc/upgrade pc?

i found a shop at web quite nice - http://www.idealtech.com.my/store/index.ph...ute=common/home

price almost same as lowyat but they can make ur pc nice nice, :
- Free Assembly & Installation
(for full rigs hardware purchased from Ideal Tech PC only)
- Update with Latest Hardware BIOS or Firmware & Latest Drivers
(We will flash the latest bios on motherboard and using latest graphic card drivers)

ive ask them they say got extra 2% charge for credit card, not sure if using half cash half credit card though
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Viewnet Lowyat Plaza doesn't have any credit card surcharge, not sure about others though.
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post Apr 11 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 10 2017, 11:10 PM)
hi any1 buying stuff using credit card visa from lowyat pc shops recently? do they have any extra charges using credit card when buying new pc/parts? do they have extra service charge building new pc/upgrade pc?

i found a shop at web quite nice - http://www.idealtech.com.my/store/index.ph...ute=common/home

price almost same as lowyat but they can make ur pc nice nice, :
- Free Assembly & Installation
(for full rigs hardware purchased from Ideal Tech PC only)
- Update with Latest Hardware BIOS or Firmware & Latest Drivers
(We will flash the latest bios on motherboard and using latest graphic card drivers)

ive ask them they say got extra 2% charge for credit card, not sure if using half cash half credit card though
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Just to answer your question, any amount u use on the credit card will be charged 2%.

So if your pc is 4000, u pay 2000 cash and 2000 credit card. U'll be charged 1.02X2000 = 2040.
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post Apr 11 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2017, 12:42 PM)
I suggest wait 2-3 months then ask again. AMD Ryzen 5 could shake things up on prices.
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Okay I'll wait.
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post Apr 11 2017, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kirino2012 @ Apr 10 2017, 11:10 PM)
hi any1 buying stuff using credit card visa from lowyat pc shops recently? do they have any extra charges using credit card when buying new pc/parts? do they have extra service charge building new pc/upgrade pc?

i found a shop at web quite nice - http://www.idealtech.com.my/store/index.ph...ute=common/home

price almost same as lowyat but they can make ur pc nice nice, :
- Free Assembly & Installation
(for full rigs hardware purchased from Ideal Tech PC only)
- Update with Latest Hardware BIOS or Firmware & Latest Drivers
(We will flash the latest bios on motherboard and using latest graphic card drivers)

ive ask them they say got extra 2% charge for credit card, not sure if using half cash half credit card though
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 11 2017, 08:41 AM)
Viewnet Lowyat Plaza doesn't have any credit card surcharge, not sure about others though.
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Sadly, most shops subject credit card payments to a 2% surcharge sad.gif

QUOTE(avengers88 @ Apr 11 2017, 10:34 AM)
Just to answer your question, any amount u use on the credit card will be charged 2%.

So if your pc is 4000, u pay 2000 cash and 2000 credit card. U'll be charged 1.02X2000 = 2040.
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post Apr 11 2017, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 10 2017, 08:41 PM)
I have seen few rigs with i7 2600 + GTX1070 combo and the CPU bottlenecks the GPU when running CPU demanding games, just make sure you lower down (if you don't mind) those CPU demanding settings in return for a more stable frame rate.
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Hey thanks for the reply!

Would upgrading the CPU to some of the latest I5/i7s solve this bottleneck issue ? My concern would be the MOBO not being compatible or already too old for the new processors.

Thanks!
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post Apr 11 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(teddymonster @ Apr 11 2017, 06:17 PM)
Hey thanks for the reply!

Would upgrading the CPU to some of the latest I5/i7s solve this bottleneck issue ? My concern would be the MOBO not being compatible or already too old for the new processors.

Thanks!
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You'd have to upgrade to the same CPU series, if you're running a i7-2xxx series, u can only upgrade to that maximum series, be it for example; i7-2770K or something. lol. You cant fit in new CPUs like i7-7700K into that mobo. The cpu does not fit.

If you want you can upgrade to the Haswell series CPU, the i7-4000 series, since you're running on DDR3. Lol. It may save you on some cost like RAMs. But then.. Its better just saving a bit more and buy an i5-7000series and a decent cpu + your 1070. Haha.. Should be good enough to last.. xD

This post has been edited by bobowyc: Apr 11 2017, 06:33 PM
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post Apr 11 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(teddymonster @ Apr 11 2017, 06:17 PM)
Hey thanks for the reply!

Would upgrading the CPU to some of the latest I5/i7s solve this bottleneck issue ? My concern would be the MOBO not being compatible or already too old for the new processors.

Thanks!
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So far only the i7 6700/7700 (excl. Intel Extreme series) are known to have almost zero bottleneck issue when pairing with GTX1070. The highest tier CPU that your mobo can support is the i7 3770 and you are likely won't be able to find any new unit in the market now since it is long obsoleted.

My suggestion is stick with your i7 2600 first, perform the entire CPU platform upgrade only if you really cannot "tahan" in the future biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2017, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(nihilistpuppy @ Apr 10 2017, 12:22 PM)
hi im planning to get a desktop. hoping to get some recommendations from you guys.

1. STATE your budget : 2.5-3k
2. STATE the parts that you wish to re-use: n/a
3. STATE your purpose : gaming (mostly league of legends, overwatch, dota2)
4. STATE your intended purchase date : 2 - 3 months
5. STATE your preference : no preference. as long as it works well.
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post Apr 11 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(teddymonster @ Apr 10 2017, 08:17 PM)
Hello Sifus,

Looking for your advise or suggestions regarding upgrading my old build. Is the current specs good enough to just upgrade the GPU to a new GTX 1070 without changing anything else except maybe upgrading the RAM to 2x 8gb DDR3 rams? Would like advise on if doing this would bottleneck the card or not as well or if which parts could be upgraded to avoid that.

Or would it be better to just spend RM 3-4k on a completely new setup that would be good to last for another 3-5 years?

The rig will be mainly be used for casual gaming on games like far cry primal, star wars battlefront, diablo 3, overwatch etc. Looking to get around a stable frame rate of around 70-80 fps averagely for a 24" 1920 x 1080 screen. Of course higher would be better. 
Old Specs-

CPU - CORE I7 2600 @ 3.4 GHZ
MOBO - ASUS P8P67 LE REV 1.03
RAM - 2 x 4Gb Corsair DDR3 1333MHz
SSD - Sandisk 128gb
HDD - wd10ealx-009ba0
GPU - MSI N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II
PSU - CoolerMaster GX 650W
Case - Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
Monitor - Samsung syncmaster bx2450 - 24", 1920 x 1080 (Looking to upgrade this to a 27" or 31" Screen as well if possible)

Thank you!
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It is advised to change a new PC, instead of upgrading only ur Graphic card
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post Apr 12 2017, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Apr 11 2017, 06:31 PM)
You'd have to upgrade to the same CPU series, if you're running a i7-2xxx series, u can only upgrade to that maximum series, be it for example; i7-2770K or something. lol. You cant fit in new CPUs like i7-7700K into that mobo. The cpu does not fit.

If you want you can upgrade to the Haswell series CPU, the i7-4000 series, since you're running on DDR3. Lol. It may save you on some cost like RAMs. But then.. Its better just saving a bit more and buy an i5-7000series and a decent cpu + your 1070. Haha.. Should be good enough to last.. xD
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Thanks for clarifying that! Learned something new as well. I'll just change the GPU to the 1070 then for now.


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 11 2017, 06:55 PM)
So far only the i7 6700/7700 (excl. Intel Extreme series) are known to have almost zero bottleneck issue when pairing with GTX1070. The highest tier CPU that your mobo can support is the i7 3770 and you are likely won't be able to find any new unit in the market now since it is long obsoleted.

My suggestion is stick with your i7 2600 first, perform the entire CPU platform upgrade only if you really cannot "tahan" in the future  biggrin.gif
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Yes. I'll probably get the "itch" again in a few months to change the mobo and processor. Just doesn't seem right to give only one part an upgrade and leave the rest alone. tongue.gif

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