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post Nov 5 2008, 10:15 PM, updated 17y ago

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Version 5:

One good site to add from http://www.bankinginfo.com.my
KNOWING YOUR CARDS (pls spend some time reading it up, especially for first time card user)

1. Visa
2. Mastercard.
3. JCB
4. AMEX - Charge or Credit Card
5. Diners Club
6. Etc.

1. Annual fee matters

No need to request for waiver
CIMB Direct Access Platimum and Gold - requirement Professional/Graduate.
UOB Platinum - got to have BOTH MasterCard and Visa and swipe minimum 6 times/card.
Alliance Platinum - swipe 12 times a year or spend RM3,000/year.
RHB Evo - got to swipe once a month or RM8 is charged for that month.
OCBC Platinum Robinson - got to spend RM8K/year inclusive of minimum RM1K at Robinson
MBB Flex -got to swipe twice a month or else charged RM3.95
Citibank Choice - 2 transactions in a month
CIMB Mastercard Paypass - free for life without conditions

2. Tap and Go - no signature required matters

Visa Wave - MBB, UOB
Mastercard Paypass - CIMB, CIMB DA
Visa payWave - MBB Petronas

Paypass limited to RM120
Visa Wave limit should be RM150


3. Important Notice for CIMB and CIMB DA card holders

New CIMB i-pay.plan

4. Credit Card linked to Petrol Giants

BHP-UOB
Shell-Citibank
AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.
Petronas-MBB Visa Gold with payWave (free for life with no conditions)
Petronas-CIMB Mastercard Gold (free for life)
All petrol brands with CIMB DA Mastercard with rebate up to 2% monthly*.


5. Standard financial charge (interest rate)

Retails purchases: 18% p.a or 1.5% p.m from statement date upon paying the minimum amount.
Cash advance: 18% p.a from the date of withdrawal.
Late payment: 1% of outstanding or RM 5 whichever is higher.
Minimum payment amount: 5% of outstanding or RM 25/RM 50 whichever is higher.

*Malaysia had adopted tiered pricing interest rate: BNM Press Statement


6. Complementary Cards

1) Citibank - Just deposit and maintain RM200k
2) UOB - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
3) Standard Chartered - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k
4) OCBC - Opening deposit of RM300k with maintenance of RM200k
5) HSBC - Deposit & maintenance of RM200k

7. Amex - Charge card
AMEX charged card gives rewards point (presently 2X if got Turbo 3X) for pumping petrol at ALL petrol stations.

Another benefit AMEX have over others is that they presently have 6 months 0% installment for any transaction. AMEX is truly 0% as they is no handling or surchage fees as compared to DA and UOB.

8. International Transactions
Mastercard and Visa charges a surcharge on top of the exchange rate. The banks also choose to charge an additional administration charge on top of that

Maybank: 0.5% -->verified by Hye

CIMB/DA: DA - 1% (starting April 2009 - by hye)

Hong Leong: 1%

PBB: 1.25% (thanks to the link by prasys)
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Transactions incurred will be converted to Ringgit Malaysia using US$ as the base currency on the date the item is received and/or processed at such exchange and at such time as may be determined by Visa International/MasterCard Worldwide at its absolute discretion plus administration cost of 1.25%. The exchange may differ from the rate in effect on the date of the transaction due to market fluctuations. Such rate imposed shall be final and conclusive and the Cardmember shall bear all exchange risks, losses, commission and other bank charges which may thereby be incurred.

http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...ates/cards.html

Citibank: 1% --> verified by tinkerbel

HSBC: 1% --> HSBC will also charge a Misc fee; bank isn't able to provide details on what that is but according to CS whom I spoke with, there's a small misc fee. (contribution by Tinkerbel)

EON: 2%

UOB: NIL

Standard Chartered: 1%

AMEX card: 1.5% charge + 0.5% (provided by Hye)
: an additional 2.5% (provided by tinkerbel)


Credit Card Cancellation Letter

[Your name]
[Your address]
[Date]

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please let this letter serve as notice that I am terminating my credit card account effective immediately. Please close the following account:

Credit Card Company: ____________
Account Number: ________________

Please send me written confirmation that my account has been closed. Also, please confirm that you have notified all appropriate credit card bureaus that this account was closed at my request.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
[Your Signature]


Cash Advance fees
5% of cash amount (min RM20), and
18% p.a. daily interest
(N/A for Ready Cash)
[from Citibank]

Cash Advance Fee :
The cash advance fee is charged
to any withdrawal of cash made.
This is imposed for each cash
advance transaction.
5% or RM20, whichever is higher.
[From UOB bank]

Cash Advance Commission/Fee*
VISA/Mastercard (Both Classic and Gold)

Flat rate of 5.00% of the total amount of cash advance
Min: RM10
[From Maybank]

Cash Advance Fee
5% of the amount drawn, subject to a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher.
[ From Direct Access]

Cash Advance Fee
5% of the amount drawn, subject to a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher.
[From CIMB]

Cash Advance fees
} The cash advance fee is 5% of the amount advanced or a minimum of RM15. Whichever is higher. This is imposed for each cash advance transaction
} For HSBC Amanah Charge Card, cash advance is capped at RM1,000 per transaction and a fee of RM60 per transaction will be levied
} For cash advances made over the HSBC banking counter, there will be an additional charge of the following:-
- RM50 on credit cards issued by local banks other than HSBC - RM20 on credit cards issued by non-Malaysian card issuers (including JCB)
- Cards issued by HSBC Bank Malaysia and the HSBC Groupare exempted from this charge
[HSBC]

Cash Advance Fees/Casino Chip Fees
The cash advance fee is 5% of the amount advanced or a minimum of RM15, whichever is higher. This is imposed for each cash advance/casino chips transaction.
[From OCBC]

Credit Card V2 Thread
Credit Card V3 Thread
Credit Card V4 Thread

Useful information
BNM issued guidelines in 2003 that limits consumer liability in cases of fraud to only RM250. See the actual document here, page 123 has the guidelines. (Courtesy of tishaban) (thanks awaynoway for the updated link))

Credit information:
CCRIS: http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/
CTOS: http://www.ctos.com.my/
BRIS: http://bris.com.my/index.html

FMB - Financial Mediation Bureau
http://www.fmb.org.my/index.htm
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The Financial Mediation Bureau (FMB) is an independent body set up to help settle disputes between you and your financial services providers who are its members..

The FMB provides you with free, fast, convenient and efficient avenue to refer your disputes for resolution as an alternative to the courts. These disputes may be Banking/Financial related as well as Insurance and Takaful related .


Disclaimer: If there's anything one wants to update on this first page or if there's any information wrong, pls PM me and I'll update if it's relevant.


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post Nov 5 2008, 10:18 PM

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Last couple of discussion:
QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 5 2008, 06:51 PM)
I've applied for Maybank Petronas VISA but didn't receive any phone call for 3 weeks, today i check my M2U.com account found that there is a Petronas VISA Credit Card account inside it, so strange, no one calling me for verification but the card approved already? Or it will be disapear from my M2U account if they fail to make the verification? Anyone has the same experience before?

By the way, my UOB card get rejected, may i know can i appeal instead of submit all the document again (I'm applying using pay slip...Don't want to submit again)?
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QUOTE(amerz @ Nov 5 2008, 07:43 PM)
last time I apply for MBB Petronas also the same, no one call me. Then I realize that in my maybank2u has the CC portion. I just go pick up the card at the branch that I told them to send.

For your case, I'm not sure whether u want them to send the card at your home, office or pickup at the branch.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 5 2008, 08:15 PM)
If it appears in M2U, it's very likely that your application has been approved and no verification is required.

Anything, you can still go back to the CS for clarification.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 5 2008, 09:42 PM)
Too bad it won't be here for long since it is already November now  sad.gif
Last day is 31/12/08.
So NOT TRUE. CIMB doesn't need you to activate the card if you choose to receive your newly approved credit card at one of their branches. But if they courier it to you, you will need to call their CS to activate it and they will ask you a few security questions or else the card will be rejected at any terminal slot the cashier swipe the card.
Yes. You can. All you need to do is ask your mom to request a pin number for the credit card as well as online banking service so you can keep track of your spending. You can get this even if you do not maintain any account with CIMB.
Mine too. Maybank never call my mom for verification but still approved our application.
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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 5 2008, 10:03 PM)
If I were you ... if the bank don't want to approve you then just forget about it. They are not the only cc provider in town unless you have special reason to apply for the card. Plus .. you already have a credit card.

Emmm ... if I'm not mistaken, your appeal won't carry any weight since they probably will ask you to submit additional proof of income (or extra income). If you can wait then wait 1 year for your current cards to hit 1st year and then use those card to apply for UOB.
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Hmm... Currently have AEON, newly approved UOB.. and coming soon , just signed the cc application, the manager personally come to my residential place give me sign because last week forget to sign at the application letter ( he so good n handsome tongue.gif )

so, in case i want to cancel CC, which one should i cancel? any opinion?
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post Nov 5 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(wenjie86 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:33 PM)
Hmm... Currently have AEON, newly approved UOB.. and coming soon , just signed the cc application, the manager personally come to my residential place give me sign because last week forget to sign at the application letter ( he so good n handsome tongue.gif )

so, in case i want to cancel CC, which one should i cancel? any opinion?
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which 1? sure definately is both lo... haha

AEON shd be the 1st card to cancel... other forumer have bad experience with it. Hope you wont face the same thing.

then for UOB, u will find difficulties of payment, unless u willing to spend RM2 each month to pay UOB credit card balance via online banking.

in future, it's best to get local bank credit card which near to your house or ur salary banked-in's bank.
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(wenjie86 @ Nov 5 2008, 10:33 PM)
Hmm... Currently have AEON, newly approved UOB.. and coming soon , just signed the cc application, the manager personally come to my residential place give me sign because last week forget to sign at the application letter ( he so good n handsome tongue.gif )

so, in case i want to cancel CC, which one should i cancel? any opinion?
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Vin_ann's right about AEON. I'm one of the guys who had bad experiences with the card - it is one of the problems which you should not tolerate. (Or anyone else for that matters) AEON had problems losing their customer's cc payments - if you are confident with it and thinks they have improved then good luck!

Oh yes ... not to mention a CS system which is highly unresponsive, it is the only card that I will never reconsider reapplying in the future.


With the exception of the payment difficulties with UOB, their CS is generally good and helpful. The only thing I didn't like them was that they refused to upgrade my CL despite me paying them in full every month and have spent generously over the years. So it's goodbye to UOB.

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Guys, any idea where can i view the list of items i can redeem using my TreatPoints ? I know we can search it thru M2U but the list seems incomplete. Do they have a catalogue or something like CIMB credit card Rewards ? Thanks in advance.


Added on November 5, 2008, 11:23 pm
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 5 2008, 11:19 PM)
Guys, any idea where can i view the list of items i can redeem using my TreatPoints ? I know we can search it thru M2U but the list seems incomplete. Do they have a catalogue or something like CIMB credit card Rewards ? Thanks in advance.
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Never mind. I have just found it ...

Maybank TreatPoints Redemption Catalogue



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I know citibank cash back credit card but still unclear about the rewards system that offered..actually if you have no carried forward balance then u only get 0.2% rebated...while if you have rm101-4000 carried forward balance, then you can get 0.5% rebate, >rm4000 carried forward balance will entitled to get 1% cash back..>8k will get 2% cash back..

Yet.i have confused with another tier system which provides 0.4%, 1% and 2% cash back...if you have carried forward balance with <rm2000 then will get 0.4% rebate, rm2000-rm5000 will get 1%, >rm5000 carried forward balance will get 2%...

May i know why got such different? for my case, i always pay off outstanding balance every month, so wil get 0.4%...why no 0.2%? how they divide both system?

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QUOTE(Chester @ Nov 5 2008, 11:23 PM)
I wish I have a World MasterCard smile.gif
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Any particular reasons you want to have one? Its not really of much stock unless you are a frequent traveller smile.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 5 2008, 11:52 PM)
which 1? sure definately is both lo... haha

AEON shd be the 1st card to cancel... other forumer have bad experience with it. Hope you wont face the same thing.

then for UOB, u will find difficulties of payment, unless u willing to spend RM2 each month to pay UOB credit card balance via online banking.

in future, it's best to get local bank credit card which near to your house or ur salary banked-in's bank.
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Oic.. the new application that manager i signed last night was Maybank.. >.<

hmm.. so far, havent encounter any problem with AEON...

UOB... i think will be ok.. since, my hometown , 500m from my house is UOB tongue.gif


QUOTE(hye @ Nov 6 2008, 12:17 AM)
Vin_ann's right about AEON. I'm one of the guys who had bad experiences with the card - it is one of the problems which you should not tolerate. (Or anyone else for that matters) AEON had problems losing their customer's cc payments - if you are confident with it and thinks they have improved then good luck!

Oh yes ... not to mention a CS system which is highly unresponsive, it is the only card that I will never reconsider reapplying in the future.
With the exception of the payment difficulties with UOB, their CS is generally good and helpful. The only thing I didn't like them was that they refused to upgrade my CL despite me paying them in full every month and have spent generously over the years. So it's goodbye to UOB.
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Ic... depending also la.. >.< if got 4K CL, in one month u straight away use 4K, and pay full, then 3rd month use again, and paid full.. definitely they will increase tongue.gif
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Thanks hye and amerz for the reply in CC thread V4, I think will collect my Petronas VISA and start earn Treat Point, smile.gif

by the way, want to inform that UOB One Card have the latest promotions

4% Cash Rebates at TESCO, Carrefour and Giant !! (1 Nov - 31 Jan 09)
Link

http://www1.uob.com.my/webpages/p_cards_credit_One.htm

The most i surprise is Giant got 4% rebate, for Citibank co-brand card (Giant VISA) it only gives the card user 2%, but UOB give more than that, also for Tesco, HLB gives 3% cash rebate only.


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I've fax-ed in my application to the telebanker (card centre) on Monday, but up to today still not even in the system !!! Somemore I got told them I need urgent cos im going vacation by 14th Nov

When i call back to the telebanker, he said from his side he can see my application in HIS system ...

lolll i really need it urgent asap !!!
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apply DA. fastest card i got so far.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 6 2008, 08:55 PM)
apply DA. fastest card i got so far.
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QUOTE(Chester @ Nov 5 2008, 11:23 PM)
I wish I have a World MasterCard smile.gif
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I have just seen the CIMB Enrich World Mastercard on "The Edge". Now i wonder how to get invited.

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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 6 2008, 11:16 AM)
Thanks hye and amerz for the reply in CC thread V4, I think will collect my Petronas VISA and start earn Treat Point, smile.gif

by the way, want to inform that UOB One Card have the latest promotions

4% Cash Rebates at TESCO, Carrefour and Giant !! (1 Nov - 31 Jan 09)
Link

http://www1.uob.com.my/webpages/p_cards_credit_One.htm

The most i surprise is Giant got 4% rebate, for Citibank co-brand card (Giant VISA) it only gives the card user 2%, but UOB give more than that, also for Tesco, HLB gives 3% cash rebate only.
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im once used to be UOB supporter / fan, but now i have changed to Maybank, where Carrefour gives 10% cash rebate on TUESDAY and 5% on other days!! icon_rolleyes.gif

for me, it's good as im only shop at Carrefour which nearer to me. tht's y it's suite me.
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I'm currently enjoying my SCB cc which gives me 0.5% rebates (unlimited) for all purchases. AllianceBank's card has a cap of up to RM5K.

Still this is nothing to the rebates that you guys here are getting @ Carrefour! cry.gif I don't shop for groceries much so it would not benefit me much.

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today my office below got HSBC CC counter opened, they promoting islamic credit card, n saying give 5% or 2% rebates (forget extract how many %) on the all purchases.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 7 2008, 12:08 AM)
today my office below got HSBC CC counter opened, they promoting islamic credit card, n saying give 5%  or 2% rebates (forget extract how many %) on the all purchases.
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May I know what card is it ? + If the rebates are promos or permanant. Can't get any info on it in their website.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 6 2008, 11:13 PM)
I have just seen the CIMB Enrich World Mastercard on "The Edge". Now i wonder how to get invited.
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Easy, all current enrich plat card holder with limit of RM200K and above automatically qualifies tongue.gif
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Called Maybank CS and confirmed that they have received my Ikhwan application (included the faxed top up version) and starting to process.
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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Nov 7 2008, 09:33 AM)
Easy, all current enrich plat card holder with limit of RM200K and above automatically qualifies tongue.gif
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Hi everyone was just noticed this thread recently and thought I share a recent experience with you guys.

Recently I was unfortunate enough to experience a theft of my credit card and the card was used before I realized it, hence I was not able to block it. It was a financially painfull experience but out of this experience, I got to know some information which will hopefully be a part of your consideration when choosing your credit cards.

In a nutshell, I lost 2 cards, one belonging to HSBC, and one belonging to Citibank. HSBC detected the usage of my card and called up to ask if I had used my card to transact a large sum. I mentioned no and thanks to their quick action, they called up the merchant and they manage to stop the transaction. That saved me a large sum of money.

On the other hand, my experience with Citibank was totally diffrent. When Citibank called me up to ask if I had used my card, I replied no. I asked them to immediately call the merchant and cancel the transaction. They refused and gave all sorts of excuses like

- We don't know where's the merchant
- We don't know the number
- The guy may have left by now

And instead of helping me out, they just insisted on asking for my information as to where to send my new replacement card to. It was a pretty fustrating experience and as a result, I now have a dispute with them.

As part of my dispute, I have highlighted to them that I told the person who called me on that day, to call the merchant and try to cancel it, but the person flat out refused to do so without even trying. They have refused to look at this point and have made me fully liable for it. I recently met up with Citibank's fraud department manager and I picked up the following during our conversation:

- Diffrent banks have diffrent policies when treating these kind of cases (Notes: this is the answer given to me constantly whenever I asked why no attempt to call was made. I hazard that it implies that diffrent banks may have diffrent processes when hit with these cases and may include whether or not they will try to call)
- She claimed that the merchant may sue them if they called the merchant to cancel the transaction!



Summary
After the incident, I asked a number of banks, if it is possible to block any transaction above a set limit (e.g RM200). All banks responded that they can only call the card holder if they detected a transaction more than RM200. They CANNOT block the authorization of the transaction. Hence, if your card is stolen, and someone used it to transact a certain amount and the bank did not or is not able to stop the transaction, you will very likely be held liable for that amount (especially if it is a large amount and depending on the situation and circumstance of how you lost it etc) and you will have to dispute it with the bank or go through the FMB.

From the point above, the varying ways and processes in which a bank handles the situation at the moment of fraud, will really make a diffrence and should be a very important consideration point when choosing a credit card issuer. Clearly HSBC was better in handling the situation, at least they made an attempt to call and block the transaction while Citibank did not even try, resulting in my money being lost.



Dear friends, I'm not writing this as a person disputing a transaction with Citibank. I'm writing this because I feel that discrepencies in handling of these cases between banks, makes a huge diffrence for us card holders. It may seem diffrent banks have diffrent ways of handling these cases and may include whether they will call the merchant or not (especially if the merchant is tied with another merchant bank). I hope none of you have to go through what I went through. But when push comes to shove, it's good to know whether your bank will help you, or just keep quiet and let your money slip away. The feeling of knowing, at that moment of time that your card had been used, and the bank totally refuses to help you, is a really depressing feeling. Hope you choose wisely on the bank your credit card is tied to, not just by looking at the rewards or benefits, but at the security and how the bank handles or protects it's card holders during moments of crisis.


I'd love to hear your opinions as well as a card member of both of these banks, i'm sure there are differing experiences. I could not include all the info here, so if you guys need additional info, I'd be glad to oblige. nod.gif


Edited: Corrected some points and statements

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perror, they are actually correct.
However your case with Citibank, I think you can dispute the amount and not pay for it albeit a lengthy process because of the bank's policy.
Reason being your call is been recorded and you have specifically in that call denied the transactions and request them to stop it.

Good luck in your dispute. But if it doesn't go your way, write to BNM regarding your case and CC Citibank. That would most of the time forces banks into pressure in responding to BNM.

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How to set amount to let bank call us if exceed?

Let say i set the limit for every transaction to 250
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 7 2008, 02:00 PM)
How to set amount to let bank call us if exceed?

Let say i set the limit for every transaction to 250
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I doubted that they would do that or even be able to do that.
Most of the time they can set parameters for a "set/group/segment" of customer under the same feature. But I don't think they can do it individually.
Imagine a bank with a card base of 1million and they need to set up parameters for all 1million individually and call these customers individually upon hitting the specific amount. So if the amount is small enough and didn't trigger the "parameter" they wouldn't even notice as we're talking about monitoring tens thousands of transactions per day.

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Hi b00n, thanks for your info. If you don't mind may I request you elaborate more on that? smile.gif

I'm planning to push the dispute over to BNM and the FMB. It's gonna be a lengthy process but that's allright. I hope that forcing them to respond to BNM not just in regards to my dispute but to pressure Citibank to seriously look into this. It's not so much about the money, but about the people who are holding Citibank cards who may be at risk if the treatment extended to them is the same as they extended to me.

There is such a huge contrast in the way both banks handle the situation. In both of these cases, neither of those banks were the merchant bank to the merchant (as far as I know) but HSBC was successful in blocking the transaction. For me, if Citibank had even tried to do it, rather than just flat out refusing, at least that would have been something. My constant emphasis to them was "If you don't try, how would you know?". In the case of the Citibank transaction, the fraudster was there for 1 hour after the transaction occured. I'm sure that within 1 hour, they could have acomplished something.

Just hoping to raise the awareness that we carry a liability in our pockets with credit cards, despite the convinience and the major inconvinience if we are unlucky enough to lose it. It's something that really has to be taken care of.

In the mean time, the reason for sharing my experience is for those who are considering Citibank cards, or those who have Citibank cards, do take good care of the card. I wouldn't count on them if push comes to shove. Whether or not this is how they handle all fraud cases, I am not sure, but if I have any new info, I'll update this thread.

tachlio, you can call the customer service up and tell them to set the limit. They will not call you to authorize the transaction. It will still go through. Just that they may call you if the transaction amount exceeded the amount you specified. (b00n, perhaps you can correct me if I am wrong?)

On the other hand, I am also thinking of getting a debit card that's tied to an account with only small amounts of cash (maybe RM500). Hopefully that should help limit loses in the case the card is stolen. What do you guys think about this?smile.gif



Edited: Changed first paragraph to reflect I intend to push the case to have BNM and Citibank to seriously look into this matter on how they handled my case and whether this is how they always handle fraud cases, rather than imply it is their policy. Same with paragraph 4.



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On the other hand, I am also thinking of getting a debit card that's tied to an account with only small amounts of cash (maybe RM500). Hopefully that should help limit loses in the case the card is stolen. What do you guys think about this?smile.gif
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The purpose of credit card is to give you credit, i believe by setting a limit, it just defeats its purpose.

Furthermore, this will increase the workload of banks worker.

Can you imagine if your credit card unable to swipe because the bank personnel forgot / didn't call you up for the confirmation?
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Hi keith_hjinhoh, really agree with you on that. I guess it's a once bitten twice shy thingy on this which is why I'm kinda like looking at alternatives that limit the exposure in addition to being extra carefull.smile.gif
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I think this is an excellent topic which I've brought up before but should definitely be on the front page b00n.

BNM issued guidelines in 2003 that limits consumer liability in cases of fraud to only RM250. See the actual document here, page 123 has the guidelines.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/files/publication/ar...box_banking.pdf

However I've read places including this blog post from CAP

http://lanaibeach.blogspot.com/2005/09/i-am-out-52.html

that the guidelines are simply guidelines and cannot be enforced. I think consumer protection in Malaysia is pathetic, banks don't seem to give a flying f*** about their customers and the govt through BNM isn't helping. Doing away with the 20-day interest free period was one such thing, only the banks are making money out of that particular ruling.

Anyway what I suggest is that we should pool some experiences together so that at least we as consumers are aware of:

1. our rights according to the law (if any)
2. our legal recourse if something goes wrong
3. individual experiences with banks

perror thanks for bringing this up!


Added on November 7, 2008, 2:50 pmHere's my individual experience. I had Maybank call me one time stating that they detected fraudulent transactions on my Maybank credit card. They did not state the details but immediately cancelled the card and issued me a new one.

At this point I'm not sure which card I should use. I stopped using Citibank simply because I didn't trust them enough and perror's experience is an example of that. I occassionally use my MBB Visa but I'm almost exclusively on Amex right now because of good experiences in the US with Amex, however Amex in Malaysia is handled by Maybank...


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Most of the forumers here have mentioned HSBC as one of the better cards in town, glad there's one extra example already.

Sorry to hear about your case and yes most of the folks here have experienced a hit and miss with their Citibank cc. I used to have a good impression about them but all that changed when their staff fraudalently applied extra cards for me which I did not appreciate. Good that someone acknowledge the mistake but they are bad @ fixing the damages.
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Hi tishaban, you're most welcomed. You're right that consumer protection really leaves a lot to be desired.sad.gif

I second the idea that perhaps we can have a pool or place where we can share our experiences with the banks, probably from the aspect of how they handle cases like that (i'm sure others may have differing experiences), security and customer service. Just my 2 cents, for me I'd be willing to pay annual fees for a credit card if I know the bank is trustworthy and can be relied on especially on times like these. For me right now after going through this, things like reward points, the annual fee waiver etc takes a back seat.

Like tishaban mentioned, consumer protection is poor in this country, and if we know which bank is good, and will do the right thing (e.g helping to call the merchant when a fraud occurs or when push comes to shove, or at least try), then that would be a really good piece of information to have. I would certainly use that info prior to applying for another credit card.

Perhaps having a pool or a place to share will allow forum readers to have a source of info as part of their decision making? After going through my experience, and going through so many pages of others who have had similar experiences, it seems like when a card holder is unfortunate enough to be hit with this, he/she is pretty much left to his own devices to sort it out.

In regards to the RM250 max liability, I actually had a friend who lost his maybank card and the fraudster used 9k to purchase some handphones. He was not aware of the transaction until the statement came. Maybank held him fully liable and he took it to the FMB. FMB sided him and the result was that he is only required to pay RM250. 1 month later, Maybank wrote back indicating their management is not agreeable to that decision, and requires that he pay 50% of it. Not sure how it turned out but I guess I can find out.

Hi hye, I used to have pretty good impression about Citibank too, at least until now.sad.gif



Off topic a bit: I asked HSBC's fraud team, if the merchant was using a mechant bank other than HSBC (e.g RHB or MBF etc), will they call up the merchant if the card holder confirmed during the call that he did not authorize the transaction. The person mentioned that they will try to obtain the merchant info and do their best to cancel it.
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To elaborate more, banks are dealing with consumer markets which is mass market. There's lots of card holders in their bank. So it would not be feasible for them to set account by account basis on the limit one requested to pop up as possible fraudulent transaction as it is hard for them to keep track on the various limit set per account too.

Usually they would have a parameter set up for all cards which if the transaction is over whatever amount, a screen would pop up and they would need to verify like what they did with you in both cases. Or some system would have parameters smart enough to detect out of norm transactions, and either way they might or might not call the customers depending on the bank's policy in regards to that. I guess you've got the information from some banks that some would stop the transactions and some would not upon confirmation; that is because of their internal policy, nothing much we can do about that but to complain on it.

However in your case where if Citi ask you to pay back the amount which on the phone you've denied, you would have a high chances of winning it. Especially when HSBC had done it. It is their policy not to stop the transactions thus it's their policy for them to take it as fraud losses.

But one thing to look out is on the T&C which is the tricky part. Did you report the card lost in 24hrs and inform the banks? They would use that as a shield that it is stated in the T&C. If you have done that, than no worries on your case. Just provided sufficient prove to BNM attached to your complain letter and let BNM dealt with Citi.
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So far, I have a good impression towards HSBC in handling the transactions. whenever there is a huge transactions going on in HSBC they will contact me. Even I make a small amount transaction in internet shopping, they will call to confirm. Meanwhile, Citibank and Maybank, hehe, no call from them except asking for payment or promoting their products/3rd party products.

Currently I just keep my Citibank/Maybank at home and take HSBC out, at least, I feel it is safer when my wallet suddenly **** (touch wood) laugh.gif
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Hi b00n, thanks for your insights, that was really informative notworthy.gif I guess differing banks have differing policies. Really appreciate the point you made in regards to their policies and how it should be viewed. Will certainly try to drive it in. In my case, the card was stolen from me and I was not aware of it. So it was used before I managed to report that it was stolen.

May I ask when you refer to BNM, would that mean that I write directly to BNM or I go via the FMB?

Hi takky, I also was reading another thread in this section of the forum regarding stolen cards. The forummer also kept the card at home, but someone broke in and stole the cards and used it, or something to that effect. Can't really recall the exact details. Maybe not so safe to keep the cards at home or perhaps block it temporarily until you need it? Not sure if this is possible though.
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Hi b00n, thanks for your insights, that was really informative  notworthy.gif I guess differing banks have differing policies. Really appreciate the point you made in regards to their policies and how it should be viewed. Will certainly try to drive it in. In my case, the card was stolen from me and I was not aware of it. So it was used before I managed to report that it was stolen.

May I ask when you refer to BNM, would that mean that I write directly to BNM or I go via the FMB?
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Yes, you can direct to BNM complaint department and CC Citibank.
I can't see the PDF in my office, might be because of different version of Adobe. Maybe you can see, it's from http://www.bankinginfo.com.my/_system/medi...g_complaint.pdf
Another one from the same site:
http://www.bankinginfo.com.my/04_help_and_...ntPrefLangID=1& which includes a complain form format.
An old press release from BNM - http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=276&lang=bm hope the address doesn't change

QUOTE(perror @ Nov 7 2008, 07:08 PM)
Hi takky, I also was reading another thread in this section of the forum regarding stolen cards. The forummer also kept the card at home, but someone broke in and stole the cards and used it, or something to that effect. Can't really recall the exact details. Maybe not so safe to keep the cards at home or perhaps block it temporarily until you need it? Not sure if this is possible though.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=532331

@perror,
I'm just afraid that they would defend themselves by using the excuses that you didn't report.
But anyway, you still have a solid case because the bank (HSBC and Citi) did call you up in regards to the certain transactions. So maybe you should illustrate the initiative that HSBC took in regards to this incident.

Good luck!

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Hi perror

Thanks for sharing us with on your thoughts and I share your enthusiasm to build an information system which provides a good review on the various approach that the bank uses to tackle cc frauds.

Just one thing though .... I'm worried that some smart alert will find a loophole based our information and use it to commit cc fraud. Should be careful though.

And yes ... one of my main criteria in choosing a cc provider now is how good is their service level. I don't really care about promos so much but I want to feel secure whenever I use the card while travelling. So many things can happen and the last thing you want is not being able to pay for anything or you are being frauded.

Just my thoughts ...

P/S Do tell us what happens to your friend & Maybank. I am curious coz as far as I know, the bank can screw up you by messing with your credit history in your CTOS / CCRIS. When that happens then your friends will have a lot of problems with financial institutions when want to apply cc, loans, etc.

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Hi hye, most welcomed. Thanks for sharing the same enthusiasm too!:) And thanks for the various information that have come up from b00n in particular the links.

Certainly agree we should be carefull if there's too much information being presented, someone may start to analyze and make certain deductions. Probably we can form a thread or maybe add information to this thread that focuses how good is their service level, without diving overly deep or revealing too much. I'm sure there's a way to strike the balance. Perhaps this could be in addition to the information that's already provided at the front page in addition to the many usefull info already there?smile.gif

I'll find out more about the case with Maybank, latest update I got is FMB told him to write a letter back and counter with a certain amount, not sure if there's been any progress.

As for me I'll forward my case to the FMB and look through the links from b00n (thanks man!). I'm planning to send a complaint to BNM contrasting the handling between HSBC and Citibank to drive the case through. Would be glad to share it with you guys as the case progress if you all are interested.

P.S: In addition, may I suggest we add in some 'best practices' on how to be carefull and safeguard the cards? I have one from a friend who reccomends that the card be placed with name up so everytime you open your wallet, you can see and be sure the card is your's. I'm sure there are plenty of more good ones:)
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P.S: In addition, may I suggest we add in some 'best practices' on how to be carefull and safeguard the cards? I have one from a friend who reccomends that the card be placed with name up so everytime you open your wallet, you can see and be sure the card is your's. I'm sure there are plenty of more good ones:)
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Treat it like your own cash.

It's unnecessarily to put card up side down just to show your name, rather you should not let anyone having any chances to touch your wallet.

Whenever you open your wallet or keep your wallet, check if all your cards available.

Rule of thumbs, having 2 different credit card companies, one international, one local. That should be more than sufficient. It's unnecessarily and troublesome to have too many credit cards.
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hi perror

thanks for sharing, you have create a very good awareness. i thinks i shd have consider how to handle n keep my credit card safely.
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You have the info on that HSBC card with the rebates ?

Same here ... I always carry 2 cards around from 2 different banks. My spendings are also segregated into the 2 cards. My current craze is for cc with spending rebates ... helps to get something back in these tiring times.

I always treat my cards as if it were cash and to consiously aware that the cards are always in my wallet or in safe keeping. Not letting it out of my sight if I hand it over to the cashier.

I do get those calls saying that they are from some Mastercard / VISA center and they offer these cards where you can get all sort of promos. What do I do ? ... If I am in a good mood ... I'll let them talk while I keep quiet after a saying a few words. If not ... I won't pick the call from numbers which I don't know + they tend to call from a Digi number. Definitely won't pick up a call from an unknown Digi number
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Hi,

how actually bank set the credit limit for a new applicant? I heard somewhere it should be 2 times your salary. is it right? so if your salary is 5K the limit is 10k
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how actually bank set the credit limit for a new applicant? I heard somewhere it should be 2 times your salary. is it right? so if your salary is 5K the limit is 10k
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Factors such as bank's internal policies, credit history, payment history, etc. will impact your credit limit granted by the bank. E.g. Heard before that Platinum card holders given a RM8K-15K limit only ? Or a basic card with RM3K limit only ? These are real credit limits that have been granted to local cc holders.
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hye, i dun have the information, as it's just verbally told by my colleague and i got no time to visit the HSBC counter which open at below my office Menara Axis.

if next monday they still there, then i got the time to ask already.
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i see if that the case, for new applicant they maybe need to try for a few cards until they get the limit that they are looking for. Or just accept the limit set by the bank and apply for limit increase later on.
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a HSBC telemarketer told me that reward points that a HSBC mastercard collects cannot be added with points collected by a HSBC visa. Is this true?
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Nov 7 2008, 11:40 PM)
Rule of thumbs, having 2 different credit card companies, one international, one local. That should be more than sufficient. It's unnecessarily and troublesome to have too many credit cards.
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MBB consider local or international? :-)

international:OCBC,HSBC,UOB,Citbank,SC
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My Ikhwan Amex card appears in M2U. I think my application has been approved. Waiting for the card to arrive.
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is it logic to get CL of 10k for RM4.5k salary? or should it be more or less? consider there is no other limiting factor
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is it logic to get CL of 10k for RM4.5k salary? or should it be more or less? consider there is no other limiting factor
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Should be 3x of your basic salary I think.
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MBB consider local or international? :-)

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what is the advantage of MBB Ikhwan? any rebates?

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what is the advantage of MBB Ikhwan? any rebates?
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Ikhwan Visa Platinum: http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...sonal/CRD-Cards

Ikhwan Amex Gold: http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...sonal/CRD-Cards

Ikhwan Amex Platinum: http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...sonal/CRD-Cards
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Nov 7 2008, 11:40 PM)
Rule of thumbs, having 2 different credit card companies, one international, one local. That should be more than sufficient. It's unnecessarily and troublesome to have too many credit cards.
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I would like to do so, but too bad don't have any no condition - free for life CC from international bank...
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i tried to book airasia ticket online using my maybank petronas visa cc.... the card was declined by the system.... dont know what's wrong...

then i tried bank islam mastercard.....also cannot..

finally, i tried my citibank shell visa cc... accepted....very smooth....

why haa?? is there any other authorization or security features that i must enable before performing online transaction with maybank petronas visa cc & bank islam mastercard ??
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With effect from next year, rates for credit cards may increase to 24% p.a. (2% per month),
currently 18% p.a. (1.5% per month).
Minimum payment will also increase to 10% - 15%, currently is 5%.

These information leaked out from one of the financial institution.
One of the reason why many banks are promoting their Debit Cards.

We shall wait and see, just get prepared.
Try to minimize your card usage for daily expenses.
Keep your outstanding balances as low as possible, so that can easily settle when time comes.

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do you all receive calls from the menara kad people asking for your card info and telling that they wana send you some sort of member cards recently?
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anyone knows roughly how long does it take to know if my citibank clear card has been approved or not? want to call them to ask abt the status....
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do you all receive calls from the menara kad people asking for your card info and telling that they wana send you some sort of member cards recently?
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This scam has been repeatedly mentioned in this forum. You should say no and not to reveal them any info despite being asked. Take note they may seem to know your details but actually they are scamming you.
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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 9 2008, 02:00 PM)
This scam has been repeatedly mentioned in this forum. You should say no and not to reveal them any info despite being asked. Take note they may seem to know your details but actually they are scamming you.
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Can we file a police report or what on this kind of scam? Any appropriate authority?
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Is there any other hidden charge if we apply for balance transfer plan? plan to settle outstanding balance in previous card ASAP. looks like it is much more cheaper to use balance transfer plan instead of pay to the bank bit by bit (interest much more higher)
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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Nov 9 2008, 03:14 PM)
Is there any other hidden charge if we apply for balance transfer plan? plan to settle outstanding balance in previous card ASAP. looks like it is much more cheaper to use balance transfer plan instead of pay to the bank bit by bit (interest much more higher)
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Balance transfer has:

1. Lower one time interest charged (depending on the offer from the bank)
2. Some sort like a installament plan
3. Has minimum amount.
4. Has maximum transfer (3 for most generic)
5. Has processing fee.
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QUOTE(ernest2020 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:24 AM)
With effect from next year, rates for credit cards may increase to 24% p.a. (2% per month),
currently 18% p.a. (1.5% per month).
Minimum payment will also increase to 10% - 15%, currently is 5%.

These information leaked out from one of the financial institution.
One of the reason why many banks are promoting their Debit Cards.

We shall wait and see, just get prepared.
Try to minimize your card usage for daily expenses.
Keep your outstanding balances as low as possible, so that can easily settle when time comes.
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Usually there have to be a circular from BNM before any other financial institutions have the information.
I would treat that as unfounded rumours for now because there haven't been any circular or talks between ABM and BNM which I've known of.

QUOTE(lil`pumpkinz @ Nov 9 2008, 01:06 PM)
do you all receive calls from the menara kad people asking for your card info and telling that they wana send you some sort of member cards recently?
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Like advised, better don't entertain any calls which ask for one's card information. There's lots of scam out there.

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why suddenly want to get islamic credit card?
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why suddenly want to get islamic credit card?
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MBB consider local or international? :-)

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Usually there have to be a circular from BNM before any other financial institutions have the information.
I would treat that as unfounded rumours for now because there haven't been any circular or talks between ABM and BNM which I've known of.

Like advised, better don't entertain any calls which ask for one's card information. There's lots of scam out there.
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My colleague received the same call. She said that fella asked from which bank the credit cards she's using and the expiry date. She told them already sweat.gif Do you think it will do any harm?? sweat.gif
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I'm only interested with the AMEX.
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Should consider the charge card as well if you pay full each month. It comes with 3 years annual fee free now. I'm using the MBB Gold AMEX now and is considering migrating to the charge card.

P.S. Still no news about my Ikhwan VISA Gold application yet hmm.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 9 2008, 10:11 PM)
Should consider the charge card as well if you pay full each month. It comes with 3 years annual fee free now. I'm using the MBB Gold AMEX now and is considering migrating to the charge card.

P.S. Still no news about my Ikhwan VISA Gold application yet  hmm.gif
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My salary doesn't qualify for AMEX charge card.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 9 2008, 05:22 PM)
I'm only interested with the AMEX.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:26 PM)
My salary doesn't qualify for AMEX charge card.
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wei, it's conflicting la... what u wan try to tell?

i ask u, y u wan apply, tht islamic amex card, u give me another 1 pulak... sweat.gif
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wei, it's conflicting la... what u wan try to tell?

i ask u, y u wan apply, tht islamic amex card, u give me another 1 pulak...  sweat.gif
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The Ikhwan AMEX I applied is a credit card; not charge card.
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The Ikhwan AMEX I applied is a credit card; not charge card.
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my question is what's so special compare to other MBB card which attract you to apply?
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David83, you forget to mention the Ikhwan card is "FREE FOR LIFE" biggrin.gif
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David83, you forget to mention the Ikhwan card is "FREE FOR LIFE"  biggrin.gif
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You need to reach minimum annual swipe of 12.
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You need to reach minimum annual swipe of 12.
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Which is a piece of cake. Just spend on petrol alone will do laugh.gif
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anyways guys, can i use m2u to settle my cc balance for other bank?
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wat if one's doesnt drive?

anyways guys, can i use m2u to settle my cc balance for other bank?
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but gonna cost u extra RM2..
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Which is a piece of cake. Just spend on petrol alone will do laugh.gif
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2x TP.
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boz of tht u applied the islamic card?

QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:17 PM)
For petrol, I have MBB Petronas Visa. biggrin.gif
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I have been eyeing for AMEX since last year.
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By the way guys, i just found out that the minimum salary required to apply for the AMEX Green Charge Card is now RM30,000 instead of RM24,000 previously.
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The Maybank staff lied to me that in order to qualify for AMEX Charge Card, my current limit of my MBB cards should touch RM 10k.
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The Maybank staff lied to me that in order to qualify for AMEX Charge Card, my current limit of my MBB cards should touch RM 10k.
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What is your current MBB card limit?
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The Maybank staff lied to me that in order to qualify for AMEX Charge Card, my current limit of my MBB cards should touch RM 10k.
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aiyo... why so care about ur credit limits....
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What is your current MBB card limit?
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Lower than that requirement.

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aiyo... why so care about ur credit limits....
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I didn't care but that's the min requirement the bank staff told me.
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In line with the banking industry, all credit card transactions for petrol purchases will not be accorded with reward (including BonusLink) Points.


Is it true for bonuslink??
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The Maybank staff lied to me that in order to qualify for AMEX Charge Card, my current limit of my MBB cards should touch RM 10k.
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Just another Maybank staff who doesn't have a clue about their own product rclxub.gif
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It's OK. I think for the mean time, credit charge still best for me. biggrin.gif
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when Shell Citibank CC usually credit the rebates (fuel+retail) ??
i dont see any rebates in my statement ??

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Is it true for bonuslink??
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i've check with citibank,we can still collect points from bonus link while having petrol rebate with its shell card.
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anyone knows roughly how long does it take to know if my citibank clear card has been approved or not? want to call them to ask abt the status....
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for citibank, you just need call 0323830000, then keyin your ic no.

you will get your application status, like how many times you have submit (approve or reject)

no need talk to customer service


Added on November 11, 2008, 4:06 pmbtw any "good" credit card out there? like many promotion?

now using...
ocbc robinson (wish to cancel cos not much discount)
citibank gold (nice, use for online payment)
alliance ikea (just got it)
maybank sony (too bad only 10k limit, already reach limit for LCD tv, Vaio...)

already used (cancelled) in 10 years
rhb
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standard chartered
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mbf (annual fees higher than gold card)

can't remember other...


never use public & eon.. finding cards with many gift for redeem, can online payment (use their own portal), many discount and offer

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HSBC AMANAH MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

Please click the link below to view the card.
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

**Please note that this is an Islamic credit card.

Besides the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i, HSBC AMANAH also offers MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i for those who are not illegible to apply for the Platinum credit card-i. Minimum salary required to apply the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i is RM120,000. At the moment i have no information on what is the minimum required salary to apply the MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i.

Some notable difference between the HSBC conventional credit card and HSBC AMANAH Islamic credit card.
- NO ANNUAL FEE***
- 0.5% cash back on all local retail spending/1.0% for overseas retail spending (except transaction made online in foreign currency) instead of point reward system.


***The first year annual fee is waived automatically. Waiver on subsequent years' annual fee is subject to 12 or more transactions.

This post has been edited by MilesAndMore: Nov 11 2008, 04:36 PM
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Is it true for bonuslink??
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I've been getting bonuslink points when I used the Shellkad, but I recently switched to Amex, not sure if I can get double points (Amex and Bonuslink) biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Nov 11 2008, 05:10 PM)
I've been getting bonuslink points when I used the Shellkad, but I recently switched to Amex, not sure if I can get double points (Amex and Bonuslink) biggrin.gif
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I have used MBB Amex Credit Card and Bonuslink at Shell. Yes, you can get both 2x TP and 1x Bonuslink points. However, must swipe BL first, then only swipe Amex. sweat.gif

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Hi guys,

I found a good deal from 0% installment but i have a few questions to ask:

1. is there any hidden fee such as process fee, etc? if yes, how much is it?
2. Let say I buy an item at RM6000 (6000/12 = RM500 monthly) and my credit limit is just RM5000, do I eligible for this purchase?

thanks in advance.
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Usually the merchant will absorb the processing fee or it could be already included in the shown price tag. biggrin.gif
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Hi guys,

I found a good deal from 0% installment but i have a few questions to ask:

1. is there any hidden fee such as process fee, etc? if yes, how much is it?
2. Let say I buy an item at RM6000 (6000/12 = RM500 monthly) and my credit limit is just RM5000, do I eligible for this purchase?

thanks in advance.
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If ever there is a free lunch, I would have eaten it already. smile.gif

0% interest, 0% installment, all these are gimmicks.

Mana ada orang bagi u duit dengan cara percuma punya???

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The idea of installament program is for cash revolving. If you don't want to cash out a large sum of money in one shot, installament program will be very handy to you. Use it with cautious and wise. You don't want to end up with high debts.


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what credit card got 0% one without any fee and can buy anything??
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Nov 11 2008, 08:19 PM)
Hi guys,

I found a good deal from 0% installment but i have a few questions to ask:

1. is there any hidden fee such as process fee, etc? if yes, how much is it?
2. Let say I buy an item at RM6000 (6000/12 = RM500 monthly) and my credit limit is just RM5000, do I eligible for this purchase?

thanks in advance.
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1. Call your bank to confirm
2. NO

QUOTE(kalambong @ Nov 11 2008, 08:32 PM)
If ever there is a free lunch, I would have eaten it already. smile.gif

0% interest, 0% installment, all these are gimmicks.

Mana ada orang bagi u duit dengan cara percuma punya???
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sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
wat talking u?

QUOTE(arsenal @ Nov 11 2008, 09:05 PM)
what credit card got 0% one without any fee and can buy anything??
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I used my RHB and MBB card for installment never have any fee oso?
except late payment fee lar
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QUOTE(he-sham @ Nov 11 2008, 10:40 AM)
when Shell Citibank CC usually credit the rebates (fuel+retail) ??
i dont see any rebates in my statement ??
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DA got monthly rebate...
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HSBC AMANAH MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

Please click the link below to view the card.
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

**Please note that this is an Islamic credit card.

Besides the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i, HSBC AMANAH also offers MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i for those who are not illegible to apply for the Platinum credit card-i. Minimum salary required to apply the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i is RM120,000. At the moment i have no information on what is the minimum required salary to apply the MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i.

Some notable difference between the HSBC conventional credit card and HSBC AMANAH Islamic credit card.
- NO ANNUAL FEE***
- 0.5% cash back on all local retail spending/1.0% for overseas retail spending (except transaction made online in foreign currency) instead of point reward system.


***The first year annual fee is waived automatically. Waiver on subsequent years' annual fee is subject to 12 or more transactions.
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i thinks this is the card which HSBC opened a counter below my office....

my colleagues applied it.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Nov 11 2008, 08:19 PM)
Hi guys,

I found a good deal from 0% installment but i have a few questions to ask:

1. is there any hidden fee such as process fee, etc? if yes, how much is it?
2. Let say I buy an item at RM6000 (6000/12 = RM500 monthly) and my credit limit is just RM5000, do I eligible for this purchase?

thanks in advance.
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1. No. When it is stated 0% than it's 0%. and 0% usually only applies to the specific bank's card whose merchant terminal is used by the shop.
I.e. Maybank cards with Maybank terminals etc.. Sort of a tie up between the store and the bank.

2. No. You need RM6,000 to purchase a RM6,000 item. It's logic.

Anyway, thread merged with pinned credit card thread.

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Mr boon, you combined wrongly or what?
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yap I think you combined the pinned credit card thread to the 0% interest thread rclxub.gif
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should be fixed already....
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first time merging topics wink.gif
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 11 2008, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 11 2008, 04:32 PM)

HSBC AMANAH MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

Please click the link below to view the card.
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i

**Please note that this is an Islamic credit card.

Besides the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i, HSBC AMANAH also offers MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i for those who are not illegible to apply for the Platinum credit card-i. Minimum salary required to apply the MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i is RM120,000. At the moment i have no information on what is the minimum required salary to apply the MPOWER VISA CREDIT CARD-i.

Some notable difference between the HSBC conventional credit card and HSBC AMANAH Islamic credit card.
- NO ANNUAL FEE***
- 0.5% cash back on all local retail spending/1.0% for overseas retail spending (except transaction made online in foreign currency) instead of point reward system.


***The first year annual fee is waived automatically. Waiver on subsequent years' annual fee is subject to 12 or more transactions.
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i thinks this is the card which HSBC opened a counter below my office....

my colleagues applied it.
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By the way guys, from the application form i took at the HSBC office this late afternoon. I noticed there is a fixed monthly management charge to each card. It is 1500 for MPower Visa Credit Card-i and 2700 for MPower Visa Platinum Credit Card-i. "RM" is missing in front of the figure. I wondered what is that ?
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Anyone here could help to upload the full info + application form for the
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i ? This card is so new that it has yet to register in HSBC's Malaysia website.

I wonder whether users of this card still qualifies for points similar to SCB's Business Platinum card.
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Anyone here could help to upload the full info + application form for the
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i ? This card is so new that it has yet to register in HSBC's Malaysia website.

I have the application form but the form is just too long ...


QUOTE(hye @ Nov 11 2008, 10:48 PM)
I wonder whether users of this card still qualifies for points similar to SCB's Business Platinum card.
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What points ? No point for HSBC AMANAH (Islamic) credit card. It's all cash back.
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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 11 2008, 10:48 PM)
Anyone here could help to upload the full info + application form for the
HSBC MPOWER VISA PLATINUM CREDIT CARD-i ? This card is so new that it has yet to register in HSBC's Malaysia website.

I wonder whether users of this card still qualifies for points similar to SCB's Business Platinum card.
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i try to ask from my colleague whether she got keep the catelog or not...

if got time i will scan it. haha...
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 11 2008, 11:37 PM)
i try to ask from my colleague whether she got keep the catelog or not...

if got time i will scan it. haha...
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Thank you bro
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QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 11 2008, 09:48 PM)
1. No. When it is stated 0% than it's 0%. and 0% usually only applies to the specific bank's card whose merchant terminal is used by the shop.
I.e. Maybank cards with Maybank terminals etc.. Sort of a tie up between the store and the bank.

2. No. You need RM6,000 to purchase a RM6,000 item. It's logic.

Anyway, thread merged with pinned credit card thread.
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Ok. thanks for the info.

ok, let say i bough an item priced at RM4999 and my credit limit is RM5000. So, I cannot use cc for fuel already until 2 years (after installment done)? Am I right?
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your credit limit is free-ed up by the installment amount every month.

eg. is ur purchase is 4800. credit limit is 5000. Over 12 months.

Month 0 Installment left: 4800 Credit limit: 200
Month 1 Installment left: 4400 Credit limit: 600 (pay RM400)
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I just received my UOB card, activation DAMN HARD! call to the number that stated, for whole day nobody answer !

call to customer service for 2 days.. only today morning finally got PPL answer... walao..

100% cancel it.. damn UOB

SMS to the number that stated in the activation also, always FAILED >.<

arrghh.. make me crazy.. just like the CARD..

if i cancel, i say i lost the card, need to pay money? coz the card is beautiful.. that UOB VOUX tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 12 2008, 07:26 AM)
your credit limit is free-ed up by the installment amount every month.

eg. is ur purchase is 4800.  credit limit is 5000. Over 12 months.

Month 0 Installment left: 4800  Credit limit: 200
Month 1 Installment left: 4400  Credit limit: 600  (pay RM400)
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Ok.. I got the point. smile.gif..

btw, which cc company and card are you recommend? Currently, I am applying for Petronas Maybank Visa. I am looking for another, Master Card card.
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QUOTE(perror @ Nov 7 2008, 01:26 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Personally, I avoided Citi like the plague. Very frustrating dealing with them.


Added on November 12, 2008, 11:41 am
QUOTE(perror @ Nov 7 2008, 02:24 PM)
On the other hand, I am also thinking of getting a debit card that's tied to an account with only small amounts of cash (maybe RM500). Hopefully that should help limit loses in the case the card is stolen. What do you guys think about this?smile.gif

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What I did was applied for a basic card (I don't want gold or platinum) with the very minimum credit limit of RM3000. I had requested for lower but that's the lowest limit possible. That is my main card for use in places whereby I can't see them swapping my card like in the restaurant.



edited by b00n: help include the spoiler tag to shorten a long post for better reading.


Added on November 12, 2008, 12:12 pmUsing CIMB DA card doing 3 purchases in UK GBP.
1. Twice, the exchange rate given by DA are lower then BNM's interbank for the date. 6.249 vs BNM 6.305. Forgot about the other one.
2. Once was higher. 6.359 vs BNM 6.225.

I could understand DA charging higher rate than BNM's interbank rate. But I could never understand as to the lower rates given for the other 2 occasion.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=6...ype=Mid&unit=rm

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I just fetched my MBB IKhwan AMEX from the branch.


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Added on November 12, 2008, 12:12 pmUsing CIMB DA card doing 3 purchases in UK GBP.
1. Twice, the exchange rate given by DA are lower then BNM's interbank for the date. 6.249 vs BNM 6.305.  Forgot about the other one.
2. Once was higher. 6.359 vs BNM 6.225.

I could understand DA charging higher rate than BNM's interbank rate. But I could never understand as to the lower rates given for the other 2 occasion.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=6...ype=Mid&unit=rm
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They don't follow BNM's rate. They will use the rate determined by VISA/MASTER. Refer to the last section of the following site.
http://www.directaccess.com.my/index.php?c...c_s&ac=1&tpt=da

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You missed my meaning completely.

Let me take this as an example:
Credit card charged me 6.249
BNM rate is 6.305

I have reason to believe those BNM rate of 6.305 is interbank or wholesale rate that is NOT available to us normal consumer. When we go to the bank to buy GBP, we are guaranteed to be charged higher retail rate.

Since bank typically add 200 to 500 base point to those wholesale rate, we will be charged:
MINIMUM of 6.305+0.02 = 6.325 or
MAXIMUM of 6.305+0.05 = 6.355.

If that assumption hold, then how is it possible for us to be charged a rate that is LOWER than the wholesale rate? In this particular case, I was charged 6.249!!!

I have a Vista gadget displaying almost real time exchange rate on my pc screen and I have never notice it going anywhere below 6.3 for the few days I tracked them. And of course, it might have momentarily done so when I am asleep at night. So it's either a mystery or I must be super lucky that day while sleeping.


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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 12 2008, 12:34 PM)
I just fetched my MBB IKhwan AMEX from the branch.
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Both of us applied around the same time but i have yet to get any news about my application. Went to the Maybank Islamic branch here just now and the staff entertained me wasn't helpful at all. So right after i came out from Maybank i drove straight to HSBC to get the application form for the normal HSBC AMANAH Visa Credit Card-i. Going to submit my application form tomorrow. Hopefully they are efficient in what they're doing and can provide me the status of my application from time to time.
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I have used MBB Amex Credit Card and Bonuslink at Shell. Yes, you can get both 2x TP and 1x Bonuslink points. However, must swipe BL first, then only swipe Amex.  sweat.gif
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may I know which amex card you are using?MBB amex or amex charge card?

if is that case,i'm thinking to apply amex card so that to collect both TP and bonus link point... tongue.gif
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I just fetched my MBB IKhwan AMEX from the branch.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 11 2008, 05:49 PM)

I have used MBB Amex Credit Card and Bonuslink at Shell. Yes, you can get both 2x TP and 1x Bonuslink points. However, must swipe BL first, then only swipe Amex.  sweat.gif
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may I know which amex card you are using?MBB amex or amex charge card?

if is that case,i'm thinking to apply amex card so that to collect both TP and bonus link point... tongue.gif
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MBB Amex Credit Card doh.gif I already bold it on my initial posting doh.gif
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Hi Optiplex330 , yeah I certainly intend to avoid them at all costs. Your suggestion's great, probably I'll try to ask HSBC and see what's the lowest limit they can set for the card. It seems like debit cards also come with it's own downpoints...guess I gotta eval both options.

For my case I have sumitted it to the FMB and guess I'll have to wait for them to get back to me.
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By the way guys, i just found out that the minimum salary required to apply for the AMEX Green Charge Card is now RM30,000 instead of RM24,000 previously.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 12 2008, 02:33 PM)
You missed my meaning completely.

Let me take this as an example:
Credit card charged me 6.249
BNM rate is 6.305

I have reason to believe those BNM rate of 6.305 is interbank or wholesale rate that is NOT available to us normal consumer. When we go to the bank to buy GBP, we are guaranteed to be charged higher retail rate.

Since bank typically add 200 to 500 base point to those wholesale rate, we will be charged:
MINIMUM of 6.305+0.02 = 6.325 or
MAXIMUM of 6.305+0.05 = 6.355.

If that assumption hold, then how is it possible for us to be charged a rate that is LOWER than the wholesale rate? In this particular case, I was charged 6.249!!!

I have a Vista gadget displaying almost real time exchange rate on my pc screen and I have never notice it going anywhere below 6.3 for the few days I tracked them. And of course, it might have momentarily done so when I am asleep at night. So it's either a mystery or I must be super lucky that day while sleeping.
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I got what u meant, but u din get what i meant. Maybe my explanation not good enough blush.gif
Refer to this thread, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/402992

However, I hv no idea how visa/master determine their rates

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VISA Forex rate = http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv....jsp?src=ex_rez
For more info, read this

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According to Maybank webside stated, Green card is Minimum annual income:
RM24,000
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That's the old one. It has since been revised to RM30,000 for the Green Card and still is RM48,000 for the Gold Card. Check out the application below :
American Express (CLICK ME)


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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Nov 13 2008, 08:32 PM)
I got what u meant, but u din get what i meant. Maybe my explanation not good enough blush.gif
Refer to this thread, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/402992

However, I hv no idea how visa/master determine their rates

Updated
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VISA Forex rate = http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv....jsp?src=ex_rez
For more info, read this
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You still do not get what I meant.

Based on my 2 past experience and using this as an example. Right now,
The Vista gadget (drawing data from some internet site) quoted 5.352
And assuming BNM quoted rate is 5.36
(These 2 must be wholesale or interbank rate not available to retail customer)

The Visa site you gave me quoted exchange rate of 5.40
(This must be the rate charged to retail customer)


But my credit card company is only charging me 5.29!!

How is that possible?




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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 14 2008, 05:43 AM)
You still do not get what I meant.

Based on my 2 past experience and using this as an example. Right now,
The Vista gadget (drawing data from some internet site) quoted 5.352
And assuming BNM quoted rate is 5.36
(These 2 must be wholesale or interbank rate not available to retail customer)

The Visa site you gave me quoted exchange rate of 5.40
(This must be the rate charged to retail customer)
But my credit card company is only charging me 5.29!!

How is that possible?
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The site gave me a calculation of 5.30, which is pretty close to 5.29

Effective: Nov 13, 2008
10 MYR = 1.89 GBP / 1 GBP = 5.30 MYR

British Pounds to Malaysian Ringgit

1 = 5.30 50 = 265.00
5 = 26.50 75 = 397.50
10 = 53.00 100 = 530.00
20 = 106.00 150 = 795.00
25 = 132.50 200 = 1060.00
30 = 159.00 250 = 1325.00
40 = 212.00 300 = 1590.00
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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Nov 14 2008, 10:21 AM)
The site gave me a calculation of 5.30, which is pretty close to 5.29


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No matter how you wanted to argue, the fact remains the credit card is making a lost in 2 of my previous transaction. That is simply NOT possible , hence the mystery.

Using your example, 5.40 vs 5.29 is 100 base point difference. AFAIK, bank normally mark up 200 to 400 base point as profit when they sell you foreign currency. For larger transaction, they may even be willing to mark up only 100 base point so your 100 base point difference is significant loses to the credit card company.


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Guys,

Currently I'm using HSBC credit card so i'm planning to get second one..hopefully local one with no annual fee or less..My choice is between,Public bank,RHB, or UOB.Please help me to decide.I normally use for 0% interest fee installment to buy things...Please no maybank or cimb....

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 14 2008, 11:05 AM)
No matter how you wanted to argue, the fact remains the credit card is making a lost in 2 of my previous transaction. That is simply NOT possible , hence the mystery.

Using your example, 5.40 vs 5.29 is 100 base point difference. AFAIK, bank normally mark up 200 to 400 base point as profit when they sell you foreign currency. For larger transaction, they may even be willing to mark up only 100 base point so your 100 base point difference is significant loses to the credit card company.
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well, i would say that no one is losing. You gain some through lower FOREX rate (most of the time though not always), your bank pays the amount requested, and VISA/MASTER still can gain from the lower FOREX rate than banks. Don't forget that Visa/Master are powerful global companies that can even fix their own FOREX rate.

I think the relation is like this
You ----> Bank ----> Visa/Master <---- Merchant

Your bank is not going to earn from the FOREX. It might be more complicated than the above but my knowledge are limited. Maybe some forumer who works in the financial institutions can explain further.
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i just applied for RHB money travel card.... i travel kinda alot for work so wanna get travel points.... 1 year free but 2nd year and throughout remaining usage can call and apply for waive...
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QUOTE(letchuanna @ Nov 14 2008, 01:03 PM)
Guys,

Currently I'm using HSBC credit card so i'm planning to get second one..hopefully local one with no annual fee or less..My choice is between,Public bank,RHB, or UOB.Please help me to decide.I normally use for 0% interest fee installment to buy things...Please no maybank or cimb....

Thanks,
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UOB is NOT a local bank. It is a Singaporean bank.

As much as i adore Public Bank (it's my main bank for savings and such) but you may just forget it if you intend to use their credit card. Public Bank credit card doesn't give you much benefits and is one of the worst credit cards in Malaysia. The cash back reward is also unbelievably low thus make their credit cards uncompetitive at all.

I suggest you to apply for CIMB Bank Mastercard but too bad you don't want to consider CIMB. It got lots of promotion year-round and it is absolutely free-for-life with no catch at all.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 14 2008, 02:23 PM)
UOB is NOT a local bank. It is a Singaporean bank.

As much as i adore Public Bank (it's my main bank for savings and such) but you may just forget it if you intend to use their credit card. Public Bank credit card doesn't give you much benefits and is one of the worst credit cards in Malaysia. The cash back reward is also unbelievably low thus make their credit cards uncompetitive at all.

I suggest you to apply for CIMB Bank Mastercard but too bad you don't want to consider CIMB. It got lots of promotion year-round and it is absolutely free-for-life with no catch at all.
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If you wanted to use your credit card overseas or overseas purchase, CIMB DA card do not have transaction fees. Others add 1 to 2% on top of VISA/MC exchange rate.

The only catch I know of CIMB DA card is that you must be a professional or graduate to be entitled to free-for-life annual fee.

As for ATM, Public Bank ATM card can not be used to withdraw cash from overseas ATM machine. RHB very limited. Best is HSBC ATM card.


Added on November 14, 2008, 2:38 pm
QUOTE(alexwsk @ Nov 14 2008, 01:53 PM)
well, i would say that no one is losing. You gain some through lower FOREX rate (most of the time though not always), your bank pays the amount requested, and VISA/MASTER still can gain from the lower FOREX rate than banks. Don't forget that Visa/Master are powerful global companies that can even fix their own FOREX rate.

I think the relation is like this
You ----> Bank ----> Visa/Master <---- Merchant

Your bank is not going to earn from the FOREX. It might be more complicated than the above but my knowledge are limited. Maybe some forumer who works in the financial institutions can explain further.
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On several occasion, the currency exchange I got from CC is so low that it is available nowhere else in the world (because it's even lower than interbank rates). Heck, it is not even available to the bank themselves, let alone their customers. When you think about that statement, it's truly puzzling. Hence my original posting asking as to whether anyone here know something I don't.



Foreign merchant ----> VISA/MC -----> CIMB -----> You.
AFAIK, CIMB DA is one of the very few bank that do not earn anything from you for foreign transaction.

The merchant makes money from you. VISA/MC makes money from you. CIMB do not charge transaction fee so do not earn money from you.

Other banks do. HSBC add 1% on top of VISA/MC charges. PBB also 1%. EON adds 2%.




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How come my UOB card got such charges?

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Just wondering if any of you can help. What is the difference between the HSBC Amanah M-Power Credit Card and the normal HSBC credit card? I heard the HSBC Amanah one is like an Islamic-Banking card. Is there any effect from using it or any terms? I can't find any info of this on their website since it is not updated yet.
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Just wondering if any of you can help. What is the difference between the HSBC Amanah M-Power Credit Card and the normal HSBC credit card? I heard the HSBC Amanah one is like an Islamic-Banking card. Is there any effect from using it or any terms? I can't find any info of this on their website since it is not updated yet.
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It is pretty much the same. You will get point for the normal HSBC credit card. As for the HSBC Amanah MPower Credit Card-i, you'll get 0.5% cash back instead.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 14 2008, 04:05 PM)
It is pretty much the same. You will get point for the normal HSBC credit card. As for the HSBC Amanah MPower Credit Card-i, you'll get 0.5% cash back instead.
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I see. Thanks for the info. mate. notworthy.gif

But regards to the Islamic Banking part, is there any limitation to customers or non-Muslims? I'm applying for the HSBC card and they asked me to take the MPower because it's newer. sweat.gif
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I see. Thanks for the info. mate. notworthy.gif

But regards to the Islamic Banking part, is there any limitation to customers or non-Muslims?  I'm applying for the HSBC card and they asked me to take the MPower because it's newer. sweat.gif
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What kind of limitation?

I'm holding a Islamic based credit card.
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what is the cc that comes with no annual fee for life except petronas card? is there any other?


Added on November 15, 2008, 12:23 am2nd question, let say i have a cc from maybank with credit limit 2k, and i apply for 2nd one, the credit limit is combined or different?

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What kind of limitation?

I'm holding a Islamic based credit card.
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I'm not sure. Maybe like not being able to use the card in non-halal places?
Since Islamic banking does require to follow Shariah laws.

QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Nov 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
what is the cc that comes with no annual fee for life except petronas card? is there any other?


Added on November 15, 2008, 12:23 am2nd question, let say i have a cc from maybank with credit limit 2k, and i apply for 2nd one, the credit limit is combined or different?
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There are a few others like HSBC which only requires you to perform a minimum amount of transactions to keep the card free year after year.
For credit limit from a particular bank, it is the combination of all cards combined from that same bank. The only way for you to increase the credit limit is to request specially from them; but usually they will review your financial status before approving any credit limit increase.
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what is the cc that comes with no annual fee for life except petronas card? is there any other?


Added on November 15, 2008, 12:23 am2nd question, let say i have a cc from maybank with credit limit 2k, and i apply for 2nd one, the credit limit is combined or different?
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For Maybank CC, it'll be a combined limit. However, for Ikhwan series cards, the limit is not shared with the conventional, meaning to say it has seperate limit.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Nov 15 2008, 01:30 AM)
I'm not sure. Maybe like not being able to use the card in non-halal places?
Since Islamic banking does require to follow Shariah laws.
There are a few others like HSBC which only requires you to perform a minimum amount of transactions to keep the card free year after year.
For credit limit from a particular bank, it is the combination of all cards combined from that same bank. The only way for you to increase the credit limit is to request specially from them; but usually they will review your financial status before approving any credit limit increase.
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yeah, i was about to ask this question when saw ur previous post.

use islamic credit card to pay Alcohal, clubbing and chinese restuarant.

but thinks back, it's just the principle uses islamic rules, but usage is just up to us individual who own the card. so i thinks, we can use islamic CC to pay non-halal services & goods.

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Recently I bought kitchen cabinet set and service from a kitchen specialist and paid the progress payment using credit card.

They are very clever to request until 90% of the total amount before the installation. Then left 10% after everything is done and you satisfy it, you pay the remaining balance.

However, the installation job and certain things are not as good as promised.

As the credit card holder and consumer, do we have the right to request our bank to revert that credit card payment and charge back the merchant due to undelivered of service as promised?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 14 2008, 02:31 PM)
If you wanted to use your credit card overseas or overseas purchase, CIMB DA card do not have transaction fees. Others add 1 to 2% on top of VISA/MC exchange rate.

The only catch I know of CIMB DA card is that you must be a professional or graduate to be entitled to free-for-life annual fee.

As for ATM, Public Bank ATM card can not be used to withdraw cash from overseas ATM machine. RHB very limited. Best is HSBC ATM card.


Added on November 14, 2008, 2:38 pm

On several occasion, the currency exchange I got from CC is so low that it is available nowhere else in the world (because it's even lower than interbank rates). Heck, it is not even available to the bank themselves, let alone their customers. When you think about that statement, it's truly puzzling. Hence my original posting asking as to whether anyone here know something I don't.
Foreign merchant ----> VISA/MC -----> CIMB -----> You.
AFAIK, CIMB DA is one of the very few bank that do not earn anything from you for foreign transaction.

The merchant makes money from you. VISA/MC makes money from you. CIMB do not charge transaction fee so do not earn money from you.

Other banks do. HSBC add 1% on top of VISA/MC charges. PBB also 1%. EON adds 2%.
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Banks are not looking at FOREX, they want late payments and minimum payments customers brows.gif
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On foreign currency conversion rate. It's entirely done by VISA/MC and my bank has absolutely nothing to do with it. So what you said has nothing to do with this particular case.

In this particular case, it seems VISA/MC is MAKING A LOST (by giving me BELOW wholesale market rate) and that can not be true! Hence THE mystery that I am trying to decipher.

From the posting so far, nobody seem to have an answer to this mystery.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 15 2008, 06:50 AM)
yeah, i was about to ask this question when saw ur previous post.

use islamic credit card to pay Alcohal, clubbing and chinese restuarant.

but thinks back, it's just the principle uses islamic rules, but usage is just up to us individual who own the card. so i thinks, we can use islamic CC to pay non-halal services & goods.
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yeah. perhaps all the promotions with the islamic credit card will be halal-focused, but if the user wants to use for any non-halal products/services, should be okay as well I guess.

when I first applied for the HSBC card, it was for their normal card which has rewards-system, but now they called and offered me this islamic cash-back card (there seems to be no standard/gold/platinum variation with the card). oh well, as long as it is still HSBC, I'm okay with it. laugh.gif

QUOTE(jack2 @ Nov 15 2008, 09:24 AM)
Recently I bought kitchen cabinet set and service from a kitchen specialist and paid the progress payment using credit card.

They are very clever to request until 90% of the total amount before the installation. Then left 10% after everything is done and you satisfy it, you pay the remaining balance.

However, the installation job and certain things are not as good as promised.

As the credit card holder and consumer, do we have the right to request our bank to revert that credit card payment and charge back the merchant due to undelivered of service as promised?
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Hmm. I'd like to know about this too. Then it would be very useful for us, consumers.
But come to think of it, just say we are paying for such a thing with cash, there's no way to get back also.

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 15 2008, 11:01 AM)
On foreign currency conversion rate. It's entirely done by VISA/MC and my bank has absolutely nothing to do with it. So what you said has nothing to do with this particular case.

In this particular case, it seems VISA/MC is MAKING A LOST (by giving me BELOW wholesale market rate) and that can not be true! Hence THE mystery that I am trying to decipher.

From the posting so far, nobody seem to have an answer to this mystery.
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From your previous post, only CIMB right? So maybe they haven't thought of it, or are in the midst of implementing it, or there is a glitch somewhere in their terms. hmm.gif
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How come my UOB card got such charges?

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Most probably it is the insurance plan.
Was asked to fill in a UOB card form that day, saw a column at the bottom for insurance. Something like Every RM100 outstanding balance will be charged RM0.60 for insurance (if you decided to take it up)

Affinbank insurance is way cheaper.. RM0.2x for every RM1000 outstanding if i remember correctly
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Need some helps here

I saw Maybank offer AMEX Credit Card and Charge Card.
Just want to know more about the charge card part, any Maybank charge card user please help

1) How was the design for the Maybank AMEX charge card? Is it a soldier inside a green card, or a Yellow Card that only have the "AMEX" small sign at the right bottom of the card? I ask the staff inside Maybank, she seems also not clear about the design. Personal prefered the "Soldier in Green"....

2) For the Membership Reward Programme as stated as the brochure, we have to pay RM 25 for each year right? May i know is the point earned consider as Maybank Treatpoints or it is other type of rewards point, if it is Treatpoint it will be great for me as i can use the Petronas VISA + this AMEX to redeem the gift faster, hehe...


Thanks for the helps..

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Currently, which banks offer "Free For Life" credit cards with cash rebate promotion?
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CitiBank, you get a 'free' laptop... cheack this out..http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/02/03/shell-citibank-credit-card-hp-compaq-presario-pc700-notebook-specifications/


Added on November 15, 2008, 2:15 pmhttp://www.jayceooi.com/2008/02/03/shell-citibank-credit-card-hp-compaq-presario-pc700-notebook-specifications/

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CitiBank, you get a 'free' laptop... cheack this out..http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/02/03/shell-citibank-credit-card-hp-compaq-presario-pc700-notebook-specifications/


Added on November 15, 2008, 2:15 pmhttp://www.jayceooi.com/2008/02/03/shell-citibank-credit-card-hp-compaq-presario-pc700-notebook-specifications/
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That offer has now been replaced with a promotion for a GPS device. Both of which, I don't think is worth it at all.
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I already request for maybank petronas card, normally how long it takes? is there any hotline that I can contact to know the status?

What is the other card that is free for life and not from Maybank? what is the card name? thanks.
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Direct Access from CIMB
CIMB Petronas (free for life with cash rebate)
CIMB Mastercard
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QUOTE(shockk @ Nov 15 2008, 11:10 AM)
yeah. perhaps all the promotions with the islamic credit card will be halal-focused, but if the user wants to use for any non-halal products/services, should be okay as well I guess.
i have maybank ikhwan cc, based on islamic law.. it stated in the agreement, you can not use it to buy alcohol stuff.. other thing, i'm not very sure.. generally, i think you can not use it to bought non halal thing or gambling..

btw, coming here for a question.. which cc is the best for petrol.. for now, i know maybank petronas give 5x point, cimb petronas give 3% rebate, citibank shell got rebate also i think.. what more cc that offer benefit when use on petrol station?
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QUOTE(shockk @ Nov 15 2008, 11:10 AM)
when I first applied for the HSBC card, it was for their normal card which has rewards-system, but now they called and offered me this islamic cash-back card (there seems to be no standard/gold/platinum variation with the card). oh well, as long as it is still HSBC, I'm okay with it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 15 2008, 12:44 PM)
1) How was the design for the Maybank AMEX charge card? Is it a soldier inside a green card, or a Yellow Card that only have the "AMEX" small sign at the right bottom of the card? I ask the staff inside Maybank, she seems also not clear about the design. Personal prefered the "Soldier in Green"....

For AMEX Charge Card it comes in 4 variations namely "Green", "Gold", "Singapore Airlines Krisflyer Gold" and "Platinum". The design of the cards are exactly the same as those you see in their website.



QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 15 2008, 12:44 PM)
2) For the Membership Reward Programme as stated as the brochure, we have to pay RM 25 for each year right? May i know is the point earned consider as Maybank Treatpoints or it is other type of rewards point, if it is Treatpoint it will be great for me as i can use the Petronas VISA + this AMEX to redeem the gift faster, hehe...
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Yes. You'll have to pay RM25/pa to enroll in their membership rewards program. It is completely unrelated to "Maybank Treatpoints". Therefore you CANNOT combine the points you earned thru your AMEX Charge Card and Petronas Visa.


QUOTE(winner @ Nov 15 2008, 02:04 PM)
Dear all,

Currently, which banks offer "Free For Life" credit cards with cash rebate promotion?
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- CIMB Mastercard
- CIMB Islamic Mastercard
- CIMB Petronas Mastercard
- Maybank Petronas Mastercard
- Direct Access
- Citibank Choice**
- HSBC MPower Credit Card-i**
- Maybank Ikhwan American Express
- Maybank Ikhwan Visa
& many more.

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Nov 15 2008, 03:51 PM)
I already request for maybank petronas card, normally how long it takes? is there any hotline that I can contact to know the status?

What is the other card that is free for life and not from Maybank? what is the card name? thanks.
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Kindly refer to the list above.



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For AMEX Charge Card it comes in 4 variations namely "Green", "Gold", "Singapore Airlines Krisflyer Gold" and "Platinum". The design of the cards are exactly the same as those you see in their website.

Yes. You'll have to pay RM25/pa to enroll in their membership rewards program. It is completely unrelated to "Maybank Treatpoints". Therefore you CANNOT combine the points you earned thru your AMEX Charge Card and Petronas Visa.
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http://www.americanexpress.com/malaysia/pe...s/default.shtml

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http://www10.americanexpress.com/sif/cda/p...41,20750,00.asp

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how the cimb direct access card looks like? ..
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http://www.directaccess.com.my/index.php?c...ard&ac=7&tpt=da

Free for life for professional and graduate. No other strings attached like minimum numbers of time you have to use the card etc.

And the zero overseas transaction charge by DA is very attractive to me. 2% fuel rebate is another.

They also allow up to 8 supplementary card for free. And the best thing is, you can set different credit limit for each of those supplementary card, something not often available with other cc. For example, you can give one supplementary card to your college son and set his limit at RM3K. Then another one to your wife with limit of RM10K etc.

DA previously belongs to Southern Bank and there aren't many of their branches around so payment can be troublesome for me personally in EM. But since taken over by CIMB, that is no longer a problem.
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MBB and Citibank are somewhat efficient on replacing my CCs.

I lodged a report of unusable card (due to faulty chips), and got my replacement card within the week (3 working days to be exact).
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any1 has register on the secure e-pay? i have juz registered myself.. but, i duno wher to log into the a/c? any ideas?


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any1 has register on the secure e-pay? i have juz registered myself.. but, i duno wher to log into the a/c? any ideas?
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u only need to key in ur e-secure e-pay thing when u purchases good online.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 16 2008, 08:59 PM)
u only need to key in ur e-secure e-pay thing when u purchases good online.
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i still dun get it. can giv me an example?
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Is DA and CIMB cards are two different things? furthermore if I apply for both and get approved is the credit limit will be shared in those cards?

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QUOTE(yiivei @ Nov 16 2008, 09:07 PM)
i still dun get it. can giv me an example?
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what she meant was, de window for authorization n such will appear prompting for password before u could conclude de transaction.. there's no a/c watsoeva 4 u to log in to do online trans for secure e-pay..

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Hi all,

Anyone here can tell me which credit card has the fastest approval and issue speed? My friend is going overseas really soon and might need one ASAP. A credit card from overseas bank is of course preferable but speed is of the essence here.


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QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 17 2008, 09:54 AM)
what she meant was, de window for authorization n such will appear prompting for password before u could conclude de transaction.. there's no a/c watsoeva 4 u to log in to do online trans for secure e-pay..

correct me if i'm wrong..
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ok got it... thanks!!

btw~ will they cancel my CC if im inactive for few months or so?
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btw~ will they cancel my CC if im inactive for few months or so?
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Is DA and CIMB cards are two different things? furthermore if I apply for both and get approved is the credit limit will be shared in those cards?
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Have not been successful yet. If you have a DA card, you cannot apply for a CIMB Petronas. I know cause I tried. Reason given is both cards got fuel rebate. Have not tried the vanilla CIMB cards or Enrich cards yet.

QUOTE(jeff_ckf @ Nov 17 2008, 10:13 AM)
Hi all,

Anyone here can tell me which credit card has the fastest approval and issue speed? My friend is going overseas really soon and might need one ASAP. A credit card from overseas bank is of course preferable but speed is of the essence here.
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Based on my experience Direct Access from CIMB. Within a week you get your card.
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Have not been successful yet. If you have a DA card, you cannot apply for a CIMB Petronas. I know cause I tried. Reason given is both cards got fuel rebate. Have not tried the vanilla CIMB cards or Enrich cards yet.
Based on my experience  Direct Access from CIMB. Within a week you get your card.
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Citibank can get card in 1 hour if you show up & apply at their card center at jln ampang.
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Citibank can get card in 1 hour if you show up & apply at their card center at jln ampang.
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That only applies if you already have other bank's card. Also if I remember correctly, the sales would usher you to the EPF kiosk machine located there and ask you to print out your own EPF statement for verification.

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QUOTE(c9 @ Nov 16 2008, 01:22 PM)
MBB and Citibank are somewhat efficient on replacing my CCs.

I lodged a report of unusable card (due to faulty chips), and got my replacement card within the week (3 working days to be exact).
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do they disable your current card on those 3 working days? hmm.gif

my card has problem at a random petrol pump. (Error code A6) really annoying.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 17 2008, 06:19 PM)
That only applies if you already have other bank's card. Also if I remember correctly, the sales would usher you to the EPF kiosk machine located there and ask you to print out your own EPF statement for verification.
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they just need to keep a copy of your epf. The thing they really need are just photocopy of your credit card over 18 months or 1 year with CL 6k and above.

I've tried applying over there and managed to get my card in 1 and half hour.



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do i need to have had my cc for 1 year or more before i can do a balance transfer.

I recently had to do a major repair for my car so had to use my mbb cc. can i do a balance transfer so i can slowly pay the amount but with lesser interest?
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do i need to have had my cc for 1 year or more before i can do a balance transfer.

I recently had to do a major repair for my car so had to use my mbb cc. can i do a balance transfer so i can slowly pay the amount but with lesser interest?
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Balance transfer is usually offered to new applications.

Some banks like PB offer it round the year.

No need to be 1 year old.
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do they disable your current card on those 3 working days?  hmm.gif

my card has problem at a random petrol pump. (Error code A6) really annoying.
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For Maybank nope, they only canceled it once I received the new card.

For Citibank, they canceled it on the spot.

Actually, been getting that same error and plus the faulty chip and whatnot.
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usually which card can offer best rate when we spend money overseas? it depends on visa and mastercard OR diff banks like maybank & cimb offer diff cc rates?
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hey any comment for the citibank clear card,planning to get one soon from citibank
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Balance transfer is usually offered to new applications.

Some banks like PB offer it round the year.

No need to be 1 year old.
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The balance transfer can do with anytime after u take the card...not only for the new applicant.
But the better is apply the new card and then do the balance transfer at the same time becoz u have the extra credit limit to let u to transfer.
I suggest u can try hong leong bank balance transfer becoz for HLB gold card cardholder can have 6.99% p.a. interest rate and the payment is for whole life until u finish paid.That means u can pay any amount every month depends on u.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 17 2008, 06:05 PM)
Have not been successful yet. If you have a DA card, you cannot apply for a CIMB Petronas. I know cause I tried. Reason given is both cards got fuel rebate. Have not tried the vanilla CIMB cards or Enrich cards yet.
Based on my experience  Direct Access from CIMB. Within a week you get your card.
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Ya my friend gona try apply that one today. He needs to be off next week so let's see how fast it is

QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Nov 17 2008, 06:11 PM)
Citibank can get card in 1 hour if you show up & apply at their card center at jln ampang.
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Citibank just rejected my friend's application tongue.gif Reason was not clear except he never had a credit card or any financial record. But the guy told him his pay would easily pass a gold card application sweat.gif Citibank for you....
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Remember the golden rule ... never trust the cc agent so quickly. They just want you to apply the card but do understand the approval lies in the cc application department hands. Citibank cc agents works on comission ... more reasons for them to be aggresive and will do anything to make you sign up.

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Remember the golden rule ... never trust the cc agent so quickly. They just want you to apply the card but do understand the approval lies in the cc application department hands. Citibank cc agents works on comission ... more reasons for them to be aggresive and will do anything to make you sign up.
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He went to the bank itself to apply, not via some agents coz he needs it really urgently smile.gif
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... why the idiotic shi++ybank upgraded my card to gold card vmad.gif damm...

Wonder what's the difference now. I tot clear card have more discounts or promotions than gold card.

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Nov 18 2008, 10:30 AM)
... why the idiotic shi++ybank upgraded my card to gold card vmad.gif damm...

Wonder what's the difference now. I tot clear card have more discounts or promotions than gold card.

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eh? they did it again?
zzzz

thinking of applying for the maybank credit card, so that i can apply for the zing touch n go card. no need to worry about my tng balance laugh.gif
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guys just wanna ask u guys question on my CL...when i received the card, stated in the letter my CL is 7k and i have used RM1350 for installment and outstanding of RM900.25 so total outstanding is RM2250.25...

when i check at cimbclicks my available limit was only RM4336 and less RM413.75 from the 7k CL...is it normal? noobies here...
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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 18 2008, 11:27 AM)
guys just wanna ask u guys question on my CL...when i received the card, stated in the letter my CL is 7k and i have used RM1350 for installment and outstanding of RM900.25 so total outstanding is RM2250.25...

when i check at cimbclicks my available limit was only RM4336 and less RM413.75 from the 7k CL...is it normal? noobies here...
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It would actually help if you call them up and clarify.
Also, don't forget to post your findings here.



*p/s: I just noticed that a lot of times, ppl post questions here (as in many other threads as well) instead of going to the direct source and seek clarification. (it's either a phone call away or since on the internet, can search the whole WWW)
It would indeed help if when one hits a problem; they go direct to seek clarification than post up their experience here. So when others search and can't find the answer, than they know what to do. i.e. go to the source, seek clarification than if yes there's answer - share the experience; if no answer, than post the question.


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i tried to call them but hate to wait for them to pickup my call...wasting my credit sometimes i wait for 4min no one pickup the call...
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still, the best way is to call them up.
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do u mean a company dat could refinance your o/standing credit? Is there any? ALONG ade la.. All i know we can sort of restructuring it into low interest monthly installment.. Some local banks offer this, but it wasnt made known to public..
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call them up already actually the RM413.75 is actually pending amount...RM400 is for petrol coz when we swipe once they will put on hold RM200 something like that...
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QUOTE(suiteng @ Nov 18 2008, 10:30 AM)
... why the idiotic shi++ybank upgraded my card to gold card vmad.gif damm...

Wonder what's the difference now. I tot clear card have more discounts or promotions than gold card.

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if u dun wan, just dun activate it....
and even got citibank people call u to persue you to upgrade.

best is CUT the gold card... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(sassyset @ Nov 18 2008, 10:32 AM)
eh? they did it again?
zzzz

thinking of applying for the maybank credit card, so that i can apply for the zing touch n go card. no need to worry about my tng balance laugh.gif
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Citi always did!! it's normal, else it's wont be Citibank... sweat.gif

pls beware that, the Zing Card, every time reload RM100 will charge RM2.00 when ur Zing card balance falls under RM50.


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finding company....not ah long lah...actually after they sweep ur card to convert ur o/standing credit to installment, then the bank will directly pay the credit to them, then u just pay ur o/stading credit to the bank monthly. currently i found 1 that the interest they charging 11-12% if re-structure ur o/stading credit to 1 year, so I want to find the lower interest 1....mayb 6%-8% tongue.gif

QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 18 2008, 01:44 PM)
do u mean a company dat could refinance your o/standing credit?  Is there any? ALONG ade la.. All i know we can  sort of restructuring it into low interest monthly installment.. Some local banks offer this, but it wasnt made known to public..
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 18 2008, 08:52 PM)
if u dun wan, just dun activate it....
and even got citibank people call u to persue you to upgrade.

best is CUT the gold card...  thumbup.gif
Citi always did!! it's normal, else it's wont be Citibank...  sweat.gif

pls beware that, the Zing Card, every time reload RM100 will charge RM2.00 when ur Zing card balance falls under RM50.
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meaning to say they charge 102 la? noted nod.gif
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QUOTE(keithgoh @ Nov 19 2008, 02:31 AM)
finding company....not ah long lah...actually after they sweep ur card to convert ur o/standing credit to installment, then the bank will directly pay the credit to them, then u just pay ur o/stading credit to the bank monthly. currently i found 1 that the interest they charging 11-12% if re-structure ur o/stading credit to 1 year, so I want to find the lower interest 1....mayb 6%-8%  tongue.gif
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I got it, meaning.. u want to keep de remaining balance of CL remain low, so u still can utilise it after charging a big amount of money to ur card.. Coz 'someone' is paying it for u.. I've heard dat kinda thing somwher.. How these companies operate? To be precise, in term of legality.. BNM regulations watsoeva..




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Want to apply for Ikhwan AMEX Gold Card,

1) Did the 2X Treatpoint for AMEX is temporary?
2) In the form, i see a place that have Akad Declaration, should i sign this if i'm non-muslim?

Headache about the AMEX all the times :\

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Want to apply for Ikhwan AMEX Gold Card,

1) Did the 2X Treatpoint for AMEX is temporary?
2) In the form, i see a place that have Akad Declaration, should i sign this if i'm non-muslim?

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finding company....not ah long lah...actually after they sweep ur card to convert ur o/standing credit to installment, then the bank will directly pay the credit to them, then u just pay ur o/stading credit to the bank monthly. currently i found 1 that the interest they charging 11-12% if re-structure ur o/stading credit to 1 year, so I want to find the lower interest 1....mayb 6%-8%  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 19 2008, 08:50 AM)
I got it, meaning.. u want to keep de remaining balance of CL remain low, so u still can utilise it after charging a big amount of money to ur card.. Coz 'someone' is paying it for u.. I've heard dat kinda thing somwher.. How these companies operate? To be precise, in term of legality.. BNM regulations watsoeva..
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It is not entirely legal.
I've inputed my comments in this thread:
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Can browse through why I say so.
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harlow, i am thinking to get one credit card due to my nature of work. since i just join this company about one month and i need to travel a lot in the future, maybe. so i want a credit card just to use for the outstation which means only for work or company purposes. i dun need it for personal purposes.

i am consider about cimb direct access. is it suitable for me?

what if i dont need to travel let say for a year so i dun need to use it, is there any charges, interest or what so ever, or is there any requirement to swept at least once per year?... i dun want to be charges when im not using the credit card.(remember this is only for cimb direct access)


thanks to credit card expert.... in advance..
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harlow, i am thinking to get one credit card due to my nature of work. since i just join this company about one month and i need to travel a lot in the future, maybe. so i want a credit card just to use for the outstation which means only for work or company purposes. i dun need it for personal purposes.

i am consider about cimb direct access. is it suitable for me?

what if i dont need to travel let say for a year so i dun need to use it, is there any charges, interest or what so ever, or is there any requirement to swept at least once per year?... i dun want to be charges when im not using the credit card.(remember this is only for cimb direct access)
thanks to credit card expert.... in advance..
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if your nature of work requires a lot of traveling, i think there are better cards out there. but if you're looking at the most lenient pre-requisite, direct access ftw lor ^_-
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QUOTE(killingspree @ Nov 19 2008, 10:21 AM)
harlow, i am thinking to get one credit card due to my nature of work. since i just join this company about one month and i need to travel a lot in the future, maybe. so i want a credit card just to use for the outstation which means only for work or company purposes. i dun need it for personal purposes.

i am consider about cimb direct access. is it suitable for me?

what if i dont need to travel let say for a year so i dun need to use it, is there any charges, interest or what so ever, or is there any requirement to swept at least once per year?... i dun want to be charges when im not using the credit card.(remember this is only for cimb direct access)
thanks to credit card expert.... in advance..
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at de moment, cimb DA does fit you.. Especially if you're a univ graduate.. free for life with no min swipe requirements.. n high CL (for me 8k is pretty high), .. but dont get too tempted or u might ended having too much debt.. plus, petrol rebates..

u may juz browse this topic for more info.. i'm sure all de feedback n infos available are very much sufficient..
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QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 19 2008, 10:43 AM)
at de moment, cimb DA does fit you.. Especially if you're a univ graduate.. free for life with no min swipe requirements.. n high CL (for me 8k is pretty high), .. but dont get too tempted or u might ended having too much debt.. plus, petrol rebates.. 

u may juz browse this topic for more info.. i'm sure all de feedback n infos available are very much sufficient..
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i got 6k only ._.
gonna ask to increase to 8k later next month
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i got 6k only ._.
gonna ask to increase to 8k later next month
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really? i thought CL for DA is standard for all new applicants..
stay prudent once u got ur raise, o'wise u might end up strangled wit ur own debt..
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QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 19 2008, 11:04 AM)
really? i thought CL for DA is standard for all new applicants..
stay prudent once u got ur raise, o'wise u might end up strangled wit ur own debt..
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besides, i only use the card to pay bills and insurance laugh.gif
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actually, i dont want to use credit card because i hate paying interest. hahaha.... i dont want the bank get rich.... hahaha.. i have to because of my work...

so when using the direct access, no interest will be charged if im not using it right? because that's the important thing for me to know.
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QUOTE(killingspree @ Nov 19 2008, 11:28 AM)
actually, i dont want to use credit card because i hate paying interest. hahaha.... i dont want the bank get rich.... hahaha.. i have to because of my work...

so when using the direct access, no interest will be charged if im not using it right? because that's the important thing for me to know.
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keep it home then when not on de go.. hehe.. brows.gif

btw, u might consider register for cimbclicks.. in case u dun hav one yet..
can track ur cc activity.. can also pay even before de bills coming..
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can someone elaborate more bout cheque on call...
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can someone elaborate more bout cheque on call...
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It is basically cash advance.
They give you a blank cheque where you can bank in the amount you want, subject to your available limit.
just another marketing gimmick.

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No they won't. In fact, you can keep your card for years without usage and they still won't cancel it but be aware of your annual fee anniversary if you are not using a free-for-life card.
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Im using a free-for-life card. so i got nth to worry on. juz tat i wont use it until the end of this year to pay my study fees... anyway~ thanks


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QUOTE(fikrie @ Nov 19 2008, 11:04 AM)
really? i thought CL for DA is standard for all new applicants..
stay prudent once u got ur raise, o'wise u might end up strangled wit ur own debt..
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i tink standard CL is 6k gua.. coz i got 6k CL 2..

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yeah. i called their customer service and asked how to increase. permanent increase need 3 months salary
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wave.gif Hi guys,

until now i still haven get my 1st statement after i apply for the CIMB CC, y ne??? can i go on9 check?? So scare they will charge me outstanding..
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can i apply for CC if i dont have pay slip? i have steady income of more than 2k/month. n i dont hv epf too. but my old job got epf

can apply?
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can. do refer to the application form. i think they got say for situation like yours.
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anyone here using Rhb visa plat card? It comes with a priorty lounge access card , and is the annual fee can be waived?
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can i apply for CC if i dont have pay slip? i have steady income of more than 2k/month. n i dont hv epf too. but my old job got epf

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Under special circumstances, they may request J-form or EPF statement.
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can. do refer to the application form. i think they got say for situation like yours.
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actually, you can apply, some CC agent, they able to do so by using ur Insurance Policy detail and payment detail.
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my DA gave me 10k credit limit....sad.gif
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wave.gif Hi guys,

until now i still haven get my 1st statement after i apply for the CIMB CC, y ne??? can i go on9 check?? So scare they will charge me outstanding..


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QUOTE(Scopio @ Nov 19 2008, 09:44 PM)
wave.gif Hi guys,

until now i still haven get my 1st statement after i apply for the CIMB CC, y ne??? can i go on9 check?? So scare they will charge me outstanding..
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Your statement will only be issued once you hit your billing cycle. Call the CS and ask about the billing cycle and while you are at it, call and check whether your account is due for payment.

There ... very easy and no need to sweat or panic.
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anyone here using Rhb visa plat card? It comes with a priorty lounge access card , and is the annual fee can be waived?
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when u r Platinum user, you wont bother about the annual already. if im not wrong, there are some Platinium's annual fee is un-waiveable...
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 19 2008, 10:31 PM)
when u r Platinum user, you wont bother about the annual already.  if im not wrong, there are some Platinium's annual fee is un-waiveable...
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my DA gave me 10k credit limit....sad.gif
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i wanted to increase my CL. not that i'm going to spend much anyway, but at least if got emergency, the exit is there brows.gif

QUOTE(Scopio @ Nov 19 2008, 09:44 PM)
wave.gif Hi guys,

until now i still haven get my 1st statement after i apply for the CIMB CC, y ne??? can i go on9 check?? So scare they will charge me outstanding..
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got mine today icon_rolleyes.gif
but will need to ask the CS on how the points thingy work...
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Added on November 14, 2008, 2:38 pm

On several occasion, the currency exchange I got from CC is so low that it is available nowhere else in the world (because it's even lower than interbank rates). Heck, it is not even available to the bank themselves, let alone their customers. When you think about that statement, it's truly puzzling. Hence my original posting asking as to whether anyone here know something I don't.
Foreign merchant ----> VISA/MC -----> CIMB -----> You.
AFAIK, CIMB DA is one of the very few bank that do not earn anything from you for foreign transaction.

The merchant makes money from you. VISA/MC makes money from you. CIMB do not charge transaction fee so do not earn money from you.

Other banks do. HSBC add 1% on top of VISA/MC charges. PBB also 1%. EON adds 2%.
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It's happening again.

18-Oct. BNM rate 6.1108. DA rate 6.102
28-Oct. BNM rate 5.5856. DA rate 5.56
11-Nov. BNM rate 5.6031. DA rate 5.621

As you can see, only the last conversion rate is normal, aka above the wholesale rate. And only marked up by 200 base point whereas bank normal marked up by 400 to 500 base point.

It seems it's actually cheaper to use DA credit card than buying GBP bank draft. I simply couldn't figure it why.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=6...ype=Mid&unit=rm


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It's happening again.

18-Oct. BNM rate 6.1108. DA rate 6.102
28-Oct. BNM rate 5.5856. DA rate 5.56
11-Nov. BNM rate 5.6031. DA rate 5.621

As you can see, only the last conversion rate is normal, aka above the wholesale rate. And only marked up by 200 base point whereas bank normal marked up by 400 to 500 base point.

It seems it's actually cheaper to use DA credit card than buying GBP bank draft. I simply couldn't figure it why.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=6...ype=Mid&unit=rm
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is that good or bad?
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I posted this in another tread. A summary of my experience so far.

This is incredible and I have a hard time understand why. But it could be very significant for those having to study overseas.

Now, when you needed money to pay for UK university tuition or accommodation, you typically go buy a bank draft from Malaysian bank and send it to UK. But here is another incredible method: It's may actually be cheaper to use your Malaysian credit card to pay for those thing in term of foreign currency conversion. Not sure of other CC.

I have used my DA credit card to pay for several things in UK and here are the records:

23-Sep. BNM rate 6.305. DA rate 6.249
30-Sep. BNM rate 6.225. DA rate 6.359*
18-Oct. BNM rate 6.1108. DA rate 6.102
28-Oct. BNM rate 5.5856. DA rate 5.56
11-Nov. BNM rate 5.6031. DA rate 5.621*

BNM indicative rate is supposedly the wholesale rate or Interbank rate. That is supposedly the price your local bank pays for GBP. So when the bank sell you the GBP, they will typically mark up by 0.04 ot 0.05 (400 to 500 base point) to the wholesale rate and sell it to you.

2 of the transaction is considered normal (*) in the sense that there is a mark up of 1400 (highly excessive) and 200 base point (considered super cheap).

But what I could not figure out are the other 3 transactions. They are 600, 100, 300 base point BELOW the wholesale rate. It is like as if your bank is subsidizing your GBP purchase. Instead of marking up 400 to 500 base point, they actually make a lost of 100 to 600 base point on those transaction. For bank to make a lost is most ridiculous and impossible but the records seem to say otherwise.

What's up? Anyone got an explanation?

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=629

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so, which bank cc offer the best rate?
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QUOTE(sassyset @ Nov 20 2008, 04:30 AM)
you're my agent oso after i got my card never contact nemore zzz shakehead.gif
i wanted to increase my CL. not that i'm going to spend much anyway, but at least if got emergency, the exit is there brows.gif
got mine today icon_rolleyes.gif
but will need to ask the CS on how the points thingy work...
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sassy.. the limit that you having now is just right for you.. no need to increase so much... nod.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Nov 20 2008, 11:30 AM)
sassy.. the limit that you having now is just right for you.. no need to increase so much...  nod.gif
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affraid that you will have hard time for paying those amount...
event you are paying installment but the interested rate very high...
you will never finish paying up until you pay full of the amount... hmm.gif
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anyone use credit card with paypal? can we sent money to someone normal account with our paypal? using the cc of course...and whats the charge?
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Nov 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
affraid that you will have hard time for paying those amount...
event you are paying installment but the interested rate very high...
you will never finish paying up until you pay full of the amount...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 20 2008, 12:17 PM)
anyone use credit card with paypal? can we sent money to someone normal account with our paypal? using the cc of course...and whats the charge?
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yeah, interested to know as well
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*Rant* - Ive applied 2 times for the Citibank Air Asia card via the email link sent to me (free bag). To date no has bothered to follow up call with me. Well once I was busy and asked them to call me at a different time..

I thought these CC card people were dying for business.





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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 19 2008, 09:55 PM)
Your statement will only be issued once you hit your billing cycle. Call the CS and ask about the billing cycle and while you are at it, call and check whether your account is due for payment.

There ... very easy and no need to sweat or panic.
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QUOTE(sassyset @ Nov 20 2008, 04:30 AM)
you're my agent oso after i got my card never contact nemore zzz shakehead.gif
i wanted to increase my CL. not that i'm going to spend much anyway, but at least if got emergency, the exit is there brows.gif
got mine today icon_rolleyes.gif
but will need to ask the CS on how the points thingy work...
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call the cs until kl?? shocking.gif walao they din gv the statement den we need 2 call them.. cry.gif sad la.. i still haven got my statement.. My fren say if the charge me outstanding den go argue with them wor.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 20 2008, 12:17 PM)
anyone use credit card with paypal? can we sent money to someone normal account with our paypal? using the cc of course...and whats the charge?
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No charge will be incurred by you when you load funds into your PayPal via cc. (Make sure you are using a verified credit card for the purpose. Login into PayPal and get your cc verified) However the fund recipient will be charged by PayPal.
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Hi guys Im planning to get a Maybank credit card. Ive visited their website and here are the choices:

Maybank Flex... the main page show annual fee is free but after click on more details it show need to pay annual fee under the annual fee section. So is it free or not?

Maybankard Visa Classic, needs annual fee... is it waivable?

Anyone have any idea the credit limit for those cards?



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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 20 2008, 12:17 PM)
anyone use credit card with paypal? can we sent money to someone normal account with our paypal? using the cc of course...and whats the charge?
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I've been using paypal for quite sometime..

Basically, I believe we can send money direct to another paypal account, i think all of u agree.. given that u have sufficient balance account in the account, or you have the cc to be charged with the transferred amount.. But to directly send money to a bank account, for Malaysia's case, it is not possible at the moment..

But i tried once transfer using moneybookers.. As matter of fact, I was experimenting it at that point of time.. I add fund into my moneybookers acc using my cc, and then transfer it to my bank account.. but in total it cost me more than RM50 just to experiment this process for an amount of RM5++ (dun quite remember, coz it was 7-8 months way back)..

Maybe some of you has different story.. Care to share?


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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 20 2008, 12:51 PM)
No charge will be incurred by you when you load funds into your PayPal via cc. (Make sure you are using a verified credit card for the purpose. Login into PayPal and get your cc verified) However the fund recipient will be charged by PayPal.
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Ist really possible to load funds via cc? I.e to have a balance in the account by funding it via cc..?? The only thing i know, its kinda dual transaction, we buy somtin using paypal (subscriptions, ebook or somtin), then paypal will charge ur cc (fund the account to pay for the purchase).. Correct me if i missed somtin here..

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i saw this in paypal...

** If your transaction involves a currency conversion, it will be completed at a retail foreign exchange rate determined by PayPal, which is adjusted regularly based on market conditions. This exchange rate includes a 2.5% spread above the wholesale exchange rate at which PayPal obtains foreign currency, and the spread is retained by PayPal. The specific exchange rate that applies to your multiple currency transaction will be displayed at the time of the transaction.

** Personal accounts may not receive payments funded by credit card, debit card or Buyer Credit for eBay or eBay Express transactions without upgrading to Premier or Business accounts.

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QUOTE(Asus @ Nov 20 2008, 02:20 PM)
i saw this in paypal...

** If your transaction involves a currency conversion, it will be completed at a retail foreign exchange rate determined by PayPal, which is adjusted regularly based on market conditions. This exchange rate includes a 2.5% spread above the wholesale exchange rate at which PayPal obtains foreign currency, and the spread is retained by PayPal. The specific exchange rate that applies to your multiple currency transaction will be displayed at the time of the transaction.

** Personal accounts may not receive payments funded by credit card, debit card or Buyer Credit for eBay or eBay Express transactions without upgrading to Premier or Business accounts.
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meant for ebay..
i hav a premier account, bought n sold few items on international ebay..

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yes i want to sent money to an ebay seller but he only holds personal account...so i cant sent the money to him is it?
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yes i want to sent money to an ebay seller but he only holds personal account...so i cant sent the money to him is it?
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yup, thats true..

He'll be asked to upgrade his account to premier if he's to accept the money, if i'm not mistaken la..

btw, this is CC thread.. maybe u can find another specific thread for paypal in LYN..

Sorry guys, we both might juz a little bit out of original topic here..

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Want to get 1 American Express Card since last week,after thinking i would like to take a Credit Card instead of Charge Card to speed up my point earning.

There are 2 choices for Maybank AMEX Credit Card
1) Ikhwan Maybank AMEX
2) Maybankard Classic AMEX Card

Want to know more about the Maybankard Classic AMEX Card.

For the Treatpoint earning, is that 2x for Maybankard Classic AMEX Card?

Thanks
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 20 2008, 03:04 PM)
Want to get 1 American Express Card since last week,after thinking i would like to take a Credit Card instead of Charge Card to speed up my point earning.

There are 2 choices for Maybank AMEX Credit Card
1) Ikhwan Maybank AMEX
2) Maybankard Classic AMEX Card

Want to know more about the Maybankard Classic AMEX Card.

For the Treatpoint earning, is that 2x for Maybankard Classic AMEX Card?

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Yes, 2x TP for MBB Amex Credit Card for all purchases, including at petrol station (any brand, Petronas, Shell, Mobil/Esso, etc.)

The only difference I see between spending with Amex Charge and Credit card are:
1) Both has 2x TP forever. However, Charge card need to pay RM25 every year for the so called 2x turbo points. Credit card in default is free for 2x points collection.
2) Credit limit - so called higher/unlimited credit limit for Charge card
3) Recognition - my opinion is only recognisable outsite M'sia. But so far I have to problem swiping MBB Amex Credit card overseas. Definitely no problem swiping it inside M'sia, if to compare between Amex Charge or Credit.

For the two MBB Amex Credit card you list above, it is same to me to use/spend, only different 'packaging'.

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anyone have any idea of how this work ? = CIMB BANK_Card Protection Premier (CPP) ,recently keep received call to askin me purchase this kind

of product. besides cimb bank, citibank did keep callin me to offer somekind of insurance.


OMG, i was dizzy about those product and the way they chasing me to subcribe. rclxub.gif

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Thanks Cuteboboi, you answered most of my doubt.

Actually just decided to get the AMEX Ikhwan, but afraid of something is can't buy by using it. (Wine, Pork, Gamble, perhaps i not meant to, but i m afraid 1 day if i m out of cash and need to buy it, then it will be my worst nightmare)

Thanks for the answer, i try to apply for Maybankard Classic Credit Card now smile.gif
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 20 2008, 04:34 PM)
Thanks Cuteboboi, you answered most of my doubt.

Actually just decided to get the AMEX Ikhwan, but afraid of something is can't buy by using it. (Wine, Pork, Gamble, perhaps i not meant to, but i m afraid 1 day if i m out of cash and need to buy it, then it will be my worst nightmare)

Thanks for the answer, i try to apply for Maybankard Classic Credit Card now smile.gif
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You are welcomed. My experience using MBB Amex Credit Card for >2 years:
1) No problem swipe local or overseas at all (Asean & Europe), as long as they accept Amex icon_rolleyes.gif
2) Sometimes local shops have problem swipe/approval MBB Amex Credit card, but no problem with MBB Visa/Mastercard. doh.gif
3) No issue with credit limit, as it is more than enough to use.
4) CL is combined with other MBB Visa/Mastercard. MBB Amex Charge Card CL is separate though.
5) Recognition/status/class/etc - I don't care, as long as can swipe and collect MORE points than normal.
6) Benefits - not much. I seldom use for promotion or airport lounge or etc. I don't like to hang around airport for too long. 1-2 hours for shopping/walk around/wash eyes rolleyes.gif

Coming back to Ikhwan/basic Amex credit card, I read above posting Ikhwan is rebate % ? Do a simple calculation, nowadays MBB TP 8500 = RM50 voucher, which means need to spend 8500/2 = RM4,250 to get RM50 voucher.

If Ikhwan is 2% rebate, spend RM4,250 x 2% = RM85 !!! More worth it.

To make things complicated a bit tongue.gif , my MBB Petronas is 5x TP, which is 8500/5 = RM1,700 to get RM50 voucher.
If Ikhwan rebate 2% @RM1,700 = RM34 only. Means more worthwhile to use MBB Petronas CC at Petronas station, rather than MBB Amex. sweat.gif

BTW, your signature is Hong Leong Bank CC application ? rclxub.gif tongue.gif

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You are welcomed. My experience using MBB Amex Credit Card for >2 years:
1) No problem swipe local or overseas at all (Asean & Europe), as long as they accept Amex  icon_rolleyes.gif
2) Sometimes local shops have problem swipe/approval MBB Amex Credit card, but no problem with MBB Visa/Mastercard.  doh.gif 
3) No issue with credit limit, as it is more than enough to use.
4) CL is combined with other MBB Visa/Mastercard. MBB Amex Charge Card CL is separate though.
5) Recognition/status/class/etc - I don't care, as long as can swipe and collect MORE points than normal.
6) Benefits - not much. I seldom use for promotion or airport lounge or etc. I don't like to hang around airport for too long. 1-2 hours for shopping/walk around/wash eyes  rolleyes.gif

Coming back to Ikhwan/basic Amex credit card, I read above posting Ikhwan is rebate % ? Do a simple calculation, nowadays MBB TP 8500 = RM50 voucher, which means need to spend 8500/2 = RM4,250 to get RM50 voucher.

If Ikhwan is 2% rebate, spend RM4,250 x 2% = RM85 !!! More worth it.

To make things complicated a bit  tongue.gif  , my MBB Petronas is 5x TP, which is 8500/5 = RM1,700 to get RM50 voucher.
If Ikhwan rebate 2% @RM1,700 = RM34 only. Means more worthwhile to use MBB Petronas CC at Petronas station, rather than MBB Amex.  sweat.gif

BTW, your signature is Hong Leong Bank CC application ?  rclxub.gif  tongue.gif
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Ikhwan got 2% rebate? Rebate on what? I didn't hear such thing also even though I have Ikhwan AMEX with me.
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Ikhwan got 2% rebate? Rebate on what? I didn't hear such thing also even though I have Ikhwan AMEX with me.
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What's the rebate/rewards with Ikhwan ? Just plain 2x TP ?

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What's the rebate/rewards with Ikhwan ? Just plain 2x TP ?
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Promotion period is from 1 November 2008 till 30 April 2009. Offer is not applicable for Corporate card.

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Hi guys Im planning to get a Maybank credit card. Ive visited their website and here are the choices:

Maybank Flex... the main page show annual fee is free but after click on more details it show need to pay annual fee under the annual fee section. So is it free or not?

Maybankard Visa Classic, needs annual fee... is it waivable?

Anyone have any idea the credit limit for those cards?
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nowadays people did not go for the MBB Visa Classic instead go for islamic card like david83 having 1, or Maybank Petronas CC which is Free for life.

but if u insist wan Visa Classic, the annual fee is waivable if u swipe 2 times per months that was my last heard requirement, now im not sure.


QUOTE(yks8845 @ Nov 20 2008, 04:17 PM)
anyone have any idea of how this work ? = CIMB BANK_Card Protection Premier (CPP) ,recently keep received call to askin me purchase this kind

of product. besides cimb bank, citibank did keep callin me to offer somekind of insurance.
OMG, i was dizzy about those product and the way they chasing me to subcribe. rclxub.gif
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if u thinks u need then get it.

it's protect you from paying outstanding balance when u are facing accident cause loss of income or whatever.

it's go by outstanding balance, example : for every RM100 outstanding charge some % as premium.
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I'm going to apply my 1st ever credit card in my life & I need yours advices to assist me in deciding which bank's CC i should apply. My criteria goes like this: low or nil annual fee, great customer service, near to my residential area so that easy payment to outstanding balance can be made, no hassle on internet transaction e.g. Amazon, paypal, etc and of course smooth transaction during international travelling.

My colleagues suggested me to apply for HSBC, any good? I'm also thinking of Public Bank as it's very near to my house, any good? Another question is that HSBC asks for Form J/EA, what exactly is that? Is it really compulsory? What if I don't have such applications? Sorry if it sound noobish because I just started my work barely a month. blush.gif
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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ Nov 20 2008, 09:13 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm going to apply my 1st ever credit card in my life & I need yours advices to assist me in deciding which bank's CC i should apply. My criteria goes like this: low or nil annual fee, great customer service, near to my residential area so that easy payment to outstanding balance can be made, no hassle on internet transaction e.g. Amazon, paypal, etc and of course smooth transaction during international travelling.

My colleagues suggested me to apply for HSBC, any good? I'm also thinking of Public Bank as it's very near to my house, any good? Another question is that HSBC asks for Form J/EA, what exactly is that? Is it really compulsory? What if I don't have such applications? Sorry if it sound noobish because I just started my work barely a month. blush.gif
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ur requirement is so shocking.gif , but it's good.

HSBC near to your house? if yes, then it's seems fits all your requirement. As you read the previous post, (i doubt you will), HSBC is very trustable CC, if compared with Citibank.

just saw the highlighted. rclxub.gif why so desperate to get CC. works for 3 months then only apply la. btw, you need 3 month pay-slip to apply CC.


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Haha, I admit that I sounded desperate. Anyway, I read the eligibility of HSBC that says Letter of Acceptance also can do, the only problem is Form J. So I assume that those who have working experience (recently switch to new company) & have their Form J from their former HR dep can definitely for CC. But for a fresh grad like me, too bad is it?

Actually I read the previous post but hardly anyone mentioned about PB's CC...is it bcoz their CC reward not enticing enough?
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MBB cardholder, I would like to ask where is TP hotspot? Any example or list?

Thank you.
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i remember one tp hotspot located at times square .
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:12 PM)
MBB cardholder, I would like to ask where is TP hotspot? Any example or list?

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 20 2008, 04:58 PM)
You are welcomed. My experience using MBB Amex Credit Card for >2 years:
1) No problem swipe local or overseas at all (Asean & Europe), as long as they accept Amex  icon_rolleyes.gif
2) Sometimes local shops have problem swipe/approval MBB Amex Credit card, but no problem with MBB Visa/Mastercard.  doh.gif 
3) No issue with credit limit, as it is more than enough to use.
4) CL is combined with other MBB Visa/Mastercard. MBB Amex Charge Card CL is separate though.
5) Recognition/status/class/etc - I don't care, as long as can swipe and collect MORE points than normal.
6) Benefits - not much. I seldom use for promotion or airport lounge or etc. I don't like to hang around airport for too long. 1-2 hours for shopping/walk around/wash eyes  rolleyes.gif

Coming back to Ikhwan/basic Amex credit card, I read above posting Ikhwan is rebate % ? Do a simple calculation, nowadays MBB TP 8500 = RM50 voucher, which means need to spend 8500/2 = RM4,250 to get RM50 voucher.

If Ikhwan is 2% rebate, spend RM4,250 x 2% = RM85 !!! More worth it.

To make things complicated a bit  tongue.gif  , my MBB Petronas is 5x TP, which is 8500/5 = RM1,700 to get RM50 voucher.
If Ikhwan rebate 2% @RM1,700 = RM34 only. Means more worthwhile to use MBB Petronas CC at Petronas station, rather than MBB Amex.  sweat.gif

BTW, your signature is Hong Leong Bank CC application ?  rclxub.gif  tongue.gif
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Yes, the 2% cash rebate is quite interesting but not all of the purchase we will get 2%, for example Giant VISA, 2% on Giant and others 0.5% only. By the way, AMEX can get 2x on all purchase and it can be accumulate together with other Credit Card/ Savings/ Current Account in M2U (that's i interested). Just want to get the point grow faster, coz MBB Petronas VISA get 1 TP for other purchase outside Petronas, the AMEX will substitude at this part smile.gif

Ya, i m agent for Hong Leong Bank, thanks for the answers smile.gif
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Guys, i'm currently holding a supplementary AMEX credit card. I'd like to know if it is possible to combine the treatpoints earned thru my credit card and the principal's to redeem gift from Maybank ? Because from what i've noticed from my mom's online banking, both cards do appear in her online banking account but the treatpoints earned are separated between principal and supplementary. So i wondered if we need to redeem the gift seperately or we can actually combine it. Please help me out guys ! Thanks !
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 21 2008, 01:08 PM)
Yes, the 2% cash rebate is quite interesting but not all of the purchase we will get 2%, for example Giant VISA, 2% on Giant and others 0.5% only. By the way, AMEX can get 2x on all purchase and it can be accumulate together with other Credit Card/ Savings/ Current Account in M2U (that's i interested). Just want to get the point grow faster, coz MBB Petronas VISA get 1 TP for other purchase outside Petronas, the AMEX will substitude at this part smile.gif

Ya, i m agent for Hong Leong Bank, thanks for the answers smile.gif
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Just to highlight to other forumers, some may already aware. The TP can only be combined with other MBB SA/CA/Visa/Mastercard if you are using MBB Amex Credit Card, but NOT the MBB Amex Charge Card.

You are right. I am using MBB Petronas now until 31st Dec 2008 to pump Petronas fuel @5x TP and purchase lubricants. For other purchases, I try to use MBB Amex Credit card as much as possible for 2x TP. Last option is use the MBB Petronas for other transactions that do not accept Amex and earn @1x TP.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Nov 21 2008, 01:12 PM)
Guys, i'm currently holding a supplementary AMEX credit card. I'd like to know if it is possible to combine the treatpoints earned thru my credit card and the principal's to redeem gift from Maybank ? Because from what i've noticed from my mom's online banking, both cards do appear in her online banking account but the treatpoints earned are separated between principal and supplementary. So i wondered if we need to redeem the gift seperately or we can actually combine it. Please help me out guys ! Thanks !
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For supp card, the points will go back to the principal card holder account. Not sure whether can combine two different principal to redeem or not. I think the MBB what-shop? to direct redeem can do that or something previously but not sure now.

For Principal and Supp card under same owner, yes, can combine.

For multi-card from one principal, yes, can combine.

e.g. I have MBB Petronas Visa and Amex credit card. Let's say both has 50,000 TP each. I can combine to redeem a Corelle dining set for 64,000 TP, then I have balance 36,000 TP. But how MBB is going to deduct from which card, or how to choose, I don't know. They always screw up, I told them to deduct all from Amex, they go and deduct all from Visa. Or they deduct 50-50 doh.gif

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MBB TP is tied to the principal individual. It does not matter if you have how many TP in one principal card or another supplementary card (edit: meaning supplementary cards tied to the same principal card account, lah), all TP do not expire and can be combined for purposes of exchange.

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Public Bank
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Regarding the above, what's the amount needed by the bank in order to get a regular visa card and how long is the approval time?

Thank you
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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ Nov 20 2008, 09:13 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm going to apply my 1st ever credit card in my life & I need yours advices to assist me in deciding which bank's CC i should apply. My criteria goes like this: low or nil annual fee, great customer service, near to my residential area so that easy payment to outstanding balance can be made, no hassle on internet transaction e.g. Amazon, paypal, etc and of course smooth transaction during international travelling.

My colleagues suggested me to apply for HSBC, any good? I'm also thinking of Public Bank as it's very near to my house, any good? Another question is that HSBC asks for Form J/EA, what exactly is that? Is it really compulsory? What if I don't have such applications? Sorry if it sound noobish because I just started my work barely a month. blush.gif
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one month ? u need at least 2-3months even for hong leong bank CC ....

u can try hong leong bank CC ....
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:18 AM)
one month ? u need at least 2-3months even for hong leong bank CC ....

u can try hong leong bank CC ....
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nowsday, normal standard of waiting time is about 3-4 weeks, other than this is consider slow and can forget about the card already, except for Maybank... some waited quites long... bcoz of over-popular.
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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ Nov 20 2008, 09:57 PM)
Haha, I admit that I sounded desperate. Anyway, I read the eligibility of HSBC that says Letter of Acceptance also can do, the only problem is Form J. So I assume that those who have working experience (recently switch to new company) & have their Form J from their former HR dep can definitely for CC. But for a fresh grad like me, too bad is it?

Actually I read the previous post but hardly anyone mentioned about PB's CC...is it bcoz their CC reward not enticing enough?
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If I have no wrong, PBB's CC do provide up to 0.7% cash rebate on your spending, and if you apply it online, you can get RM50 cash rebate on your CC. and if you introduce your friend to apply PBB's CC u will get RM50 cash rebate as well^.^
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anyone got the standardchartered bank character card? e.g. batman card?
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anyone got the standardchartered bank character card? e.g. batman card?
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I had this card a short while back. Actually, it is quite cool but I decided to retire this card coz it is a little embarassing to pull this card out in front of a client. It is actually one of SCB's best product back then and this product was launched when SCB just had a management change. Their cc customer base grew coz of this card. Before that SCB cc was one of the hardest card to apply in town coz rejection rates was high.

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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 22 2008, 06:18 AM)
I had this card a short while back. Actually, it is quite cool but I decided to retire this card coz it is a little embarassing to pull this card out in front of a client. It is actually one of SCB's best product back then and this product was launched when SCB just had a management change. Their cc customer base grew coz of this card. Before that SCB cc was one of the hardest card to apply in town coz rejection rates was high.
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i'd apply for it if it has cat pictures wub.gif
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why not le?

just go to direct access website.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 22 2008, 08:38 AM)
why not le?

just go to direct access website.
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oh ok i'll check it out. as i have thrown the discount booklet that i receive 2 months ago sweat.gif
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hi every1,

i curious why need 2 use cc? i still student...if i apply Mol Freedom card..is worth? oso got cash rebate 0-15%??
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i curious why need 2 use cc? i still student...if i apply Mol Freedom card..is worth? oso got cash rebate 0-15%??
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MOL freedom card is a debit card and this is a thread for credit card. Wrong discussion thread my friend.
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Just received my 1st month Ikhwan AMEX statement. It's seperated from my other two MBB CC statements. This one is under Maybank Islamic.
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Just received my 1st month Ikhwan AMEX statement. It's seperated from my other two MBB CC statements. This one is under Maybank Islamic.
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bro, as the name suggest, it's a separate entity. tht's why got 2 statement.
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just got a CC and now decided not to take it. how should I cancel the card. should I just cut the card or I have to inform them

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Nov 22 2008, 05:40 PM)
just got a CC and now decided not to take it. how should I cancel the card. should I just cut the card or I have to inform them
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try look at de beginning of this topic, u'll find a template letter for that purpose..

Simply cutting it wont make any diff, especially if it comes with annual fees.. Calling them to cancel de card also not sufficient, its either u come to their place n hav it cancelled or send a letter to them asking for cancellation.. Then maybe u can convert de cc into a keychain or somtin later on..

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I'm only holding my HSBC Credit Card for 11 mths.... is there anyone had managed to do the card to card application and successfully received the card with an existing card that is less than 12mths...

i know all the banks required 12 mths old card for that...dun quote me for that....

but i'm only asking if there is special case that anyone managed to do it even without 12 mths....
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QUOTE(kindaichi @ Nov 23 2008, 12:24 AM)
I'm only holding my HSBC Credit Card for 11 mths.... is there anyone had managed to do the card to card application and successfully received the card with an existing card that is less than 12mths...

i know all the banks required 12 mths old card for that...dun quote me for that....

but i'm only asking if there is special case that anyone managed to do it even without 12 mths....
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You may need to submit more supporting documents. I usually will attach along payslip. biggrin.gif
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i dun see any problem where you work at... unless if the payslip is a few months old tongue.gif
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Who want apply EON bank Credit card can just direct contact me,i am one of the personal banker in EON bank,and as my knowledge,EON bank credit card is free for life,which mean there are no annual fee will be charge in your credit card statement.Besides that,the user will feel easy to make the payment because there are so many branch in Malaysia,and for EON bank' housing loan still the lowest interest at up to BLR-2.2%.
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^EON CC are 'free for life' with terms and condition.
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The new AmBank CreditCard with free for life as well is it good?

Pls give some feed back . . . for those good in this field thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Yunice Ho @ Nov 23 2008, 12:09 PM)
Who want apply EON bank Credit card can just direct contact me,i am one of the personal banker in EON bank,and as my knowledge,EON bank credit card is free for life,which mean there are no annual fee will be charge in your credit card statement.Besides that,the user will feel easy to make the payment because there are so many branch in Malaysia,and for EON bank' housing loan still the lowest interest at up to BLR-2.2%.
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QUOTE(MakeYouHappy @ Nov 23 2008, 01:28 PM)
^EON CC are 'free for life' with terms and condition.
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QUOTE(Colaboy @ Nov 23 2008, 01:39 PM)
The new AmBank CreditCard with free for life as well is it good?

Pls give some feed back . . .  for those good in this field  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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hmm...
i kinda expect this kind of situation laugh.gif
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I just got the job and applied for maybank petronas but the application been rejected .. sad.gif . damn.. I fulfill the min requirement .. Maybe I do not have enough payslips (but I already gave the degree transcript and offer letter). sad.gif


Added on November 23, 2008, 2:39 pmlet say the form asking for gross annual income, and in my offer letter, there is a contractual bonus ... say my pay is rm3k per month .. should I put RM36k or RM39k gross annual income?

I also have fixed allowances such as transport and shift. It is not included OT that I work on public holiday. how should I state my gross annual income here?

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have you considered CIMB direct access? No idea whether Maybank accepts offer letter and transcript as supporting documents but I've heard direct access does.

on contractual bonus, no idea but when in doubt why don't you break it up say write 36k then at the bottom "not inc 1 month contractual bonus". the forms are processed by humans anyway.

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 23 2008, 03:02 PM)
have you considered CIMB direct access? No idea whether Maybank accepts offer letter and transcript as supporting documents but I've heard direct access does.

on contractual bonus, no idea but when in doubt why don't you break it up say write 36k then at the bottom "not inc 1 month contractual bonus". the forms are processed by humans anyway.
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i really disappointed with maybank petronas .. i was waiting for 3 weeks and know that my application been rejected .. sad.gif ..


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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 23 2008, 03:02 PM)
have you considered CIMB direct access? No idea whether Maybank accepts offer letter and transcript as supporting documents but I've heard direct access does.

on contractual bonus, no idea but when in doubt why don't you break it up say write 36k then at the bottom "not inc 1 month contractual bonus". the forms are processed by humans anyway.
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yup .. already applied for cimb da a week ago .. still waiting the status .. smile.gif ..

i really disappointed with maybank petronas .. i was waiting for 3 weeks and know that my application been rejected .. sad.gif ..

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Hi guys Im planning to get a Maybank credit card. Ive visited their website and here are the choices:

Maybank Flex... the main page show annual fee is free but after click on more details it show need to pay annual fee under the annual fee section. So is it free or not?

Maybankard Visa Classic, needs annual fee... is it waivable?

Anyone have any idea the credit limit for those cards?
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Nov 23 2008, 03:24 PM)
yup .. already applied for cimb da a week ago .. still waiting the status .. smile.gif ..

i really disappointed with maybank petronas .. i was waiting for 3 weeks and know that my application been rejected .. sad.gif ..


Added on November 23, 2008, 3:26 pm
yup .. already applied for cimb da a week ago .. still waiting the status .. smile.gif ..
Maybank ah biasa la. their processing is very slow man. If fast 3 weeks, or else you have to wait for months. Slow is another problem. but plus the approving rate so low, you will feel sick of them and never want to apply card from them anymore. if your salary is not above 2.5k then be patient but to wait or you can always choose other bank to apply.

For my experience, CIMB bank is one of the fastest i could tell. I apply on Monday and by next monday they send the card to me. For Cimb DA, i think their customer service is quite lousy. There were once I tried to call them up, if i am not mistaken about 10 times, but just cant get through and cant get a person to talk to. I have no choice but to write an email to them and then have their personnel to call me back. So, lets say you want to check your card application status or request anything from them, i think it is better for you to shoot an email to them instead wasting time calling because the line was always busy. good luck for your application.

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All bank cc is free for life for some of the term and condition.Last time i work in ocbc call centre,i know for some bank ,there are not easy to waive the annual fee.Need to meet spending criteria,using time....and if u call up to waive annual fee,u need to write in some more.leceh^^

but for EON bank cc is different,u can get 100% annual fee waiver if u have at least 12 time transaction in one year.The annual fee is auto waive,no need to call call centre.

using credit card actually is using future money,Avoid to pay interest and overdue charge,we better make full payment before due date in every month.
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QUOTE(betatestar1 @ Nov 23 2008, 07:00 PM)
Maybank ah biasa la. their processing is very slow man. If fast 3 weeks, or else you have to wait for months. Slow is another problem. but plus the approving rate so low, you will feel sick of them and never want to apply card from them anymore. if your salary is not above 2.5k then be patient but to wait or you can always choose other bank to apply.

For my experience, CIMB bank is one of the fastest i could tell. I apply on Monday and by next monday they send the card to me.  For Cimb DA, i think their customer service is quite lousy. There were once I tried to call them up, if i am not mistaken about 10 times, but just cant get through and cant get a person to talk to. I have no choice but to write an email to them and then have their personnel to call me back.  So, lets say you want to check your card application status or request anything from them, i think it is better for you to shoot an email to them instead wasting time calling because the line was always busy. good luck for your application.
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my experience with DA customer service is not that bad. just that sometime, the waiting time is quite long...

the DA customer service quality is dropped since the acquisition by CIMB. previously got people mentioned it.
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QUOTE(Colaboy @ Nov 23 2008, 01:39 PM)
The new AmBank CreditCard with free for life as well is it good?

Pls give some feed back . . .  for those good in this field  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Many years ago had one of them. I have such unpleasant experience that I swore I would never touch them with a ten foot pole.

They may be good now but the bitterness lingers......


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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 23 2008, 08:06 PM)
my experience with DA customer service is not that bad. just that sometime, the waiting time is quite long...

the DA customer service quality is dropped since the acquisition by CIMB. previously got people mentioned it.
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I have DA's Platinum. One of the better service compared to my other cards. Often get a REAL human being talking to me with 20 second unlike others that takes you through numerous selection menu.

For non-standard request. One of the best and the worst is EON which I am hoping to find another easy "free for life" card to replace it with.


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1 stupid question,

i want to cancel my rhb cc<--apply for the chick tongue.gif
if i never activate my cc... do i hv to call the call center to cancel it?

rhb cc.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 23 2008, 08:26 PM)
Many years ago had one of them. I have such unpleasant experience that I swore I would never touch them with a ten foot pole.

They may be good now but the bitterness lingers......


Added on November 23, 2008, 8:38 pm

I have DA's Platinum. One of the better service compared to my other cards. Often get a REAL human being talking to me with 20 second unlike others that takes you through numerous selection menu.

For non-standard request. One of the best and the worst is EON which I am hoping to find another easy "free for life" card to replace it with.
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if im not wrong, Platinium holder can call another hotline, i thinks which is lesser people calling and u get the good services.

unlike us normal CC.... sad.gif
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I paid for something, they wrote my creditcard number on the receipt, and keep the carbon copy.

Is this practice normal? I didn't notice it until I go home and check. If this is not normal, how do I protest?
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I paid for something, they wrote my creditcard number on the receipt, and keep the carbon copy.

Is this practice normal? I didn't notice it until I go home and check. If this is not normal, how do I protest?
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No, this practise is quite normal, and either way, the merchant has your CC number on their copy of the transaction slip. Better to frequently check your statement online than worry about this. tongue.gif
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For platinum card,the most quality platinum card now is HSBC Platinum.
And it have most good service and security...me just upgrade it rclxms.gif biggrin.gif
I like HSBC so much~
How u all opinion?
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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Nov 24 2008, 01:57 AM)
No, this practise is quite normal, and either way, the merchant has your CC number on their copy of the transaction slip. Better to frequently check your statement online than worry about this.  tongue.gif
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Owh, okay. Thanks tongue.gif

A bit worry though, since the receipt could be with anyone or anywhere. They don't actually have to write it in the receipt, since i will use as a proof for signing up the program.

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if im not wrong, Platinium holder can call another hotline, i thinks which is lesser people calling and u get the good services.

unlike us normal CC....  sad.gif
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DA Platinum number 03-62047979. Is that the number you called?


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QUOTE(skylancer @ Nov 24 2008, 02:02 AM)
For platinum card,the most quality platinum card now is HSBC Platinum.
And it have most good service and security...me just upgrade it  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif
I like HSBC so much~
How u all opinion?
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No doubt about it. When it comes to service quality, you can't beat HSBC. The only downside to HSBC is perhaps their lack of promotions as compared to the likes of Citibank and they are less aggresive in terms of giving you bonus points.


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All bank cc is free for life for some of the term and condition.Last time i work in ocbc call centre,i know for some bank ,there are not easy to waive the annual fee.Need to meet spending criteria,using time....and if u call up to waive annual fee,u need to write in some more.leceh^^

but for EON bank cc is different,u can get 100% annual fee waiver if u have at least 12 time transaction in one year.The annual fee is auto waive,no need to call call centre.
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I know you meant well but there are a multitude of dimensions which a potential cc user will consider besides just annual fee waiver alone. Mostly will see whether the bank has a good CS and it is one of my critical criteria as well. I used to have EON cc a short while back but what turns me off was

1. CS is average. (Could be below average for some) Takes a while to pick up the phone.
2. There's this 2% charge when you use your cc overseas. One of the highest among others.

I doubt so it will be difficult for anyone to get an annual fee waiver if they had been a good payee and using their cc frequently. I'm speaking from experience myself.

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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 24 2008, 09:28 AM)
No doubt about it. When it comes to service quality, you can't beat HSBC. The only downside to HSBC is perhaps their lack of promotions as compared to the likes of Citibank and they are less aggresive in terms of giving you bonus points.

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An acquaintance once told me. Not sure true or not. He said, when traveling overseas, HSBC charges/conversion rate is on the higher side. And they do charge an extra 1% for oversea transaction.

AFAIK, only DA has 0% oversea transaction charge. Most are 1% with EON the highest at 2%.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:57 AM)
An acquaintance once told me. Not sure true or not. He said, when traveling overseas, HSBC charges/conversion rate is on the higher side. And they do charge an extra 1% for oversea transaction.
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If I'm not mistaken, the conversion rates are determined at the VISA/MC International level rather the HSBC's bank level.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:57 AM)
An acquaintance once told me. Not sure true or not. He said, when traveling overseas, HSBC charges/conversion rate is on the higher side. And they do charge an extra 1% for oversea transaction.

AFAIK, only DA has 0% oversea transaction charge. Most are 1% with EON the highest at 2%.
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So far I see DA has a good reputation here.. I myself have DA, oso Maybank n BankIslam.. Been attended timely by the DA CS every time got prob or need to ask somtin (even it was 12 a.m!!).. Also, often they call call me when i charged somtin online using de cards.. Annoying, but better keep it dat way..

The only inconvenience i ever experienced was the cimbclicks, so frustrating.. I used all kinda browsers, IE, firefox, netscape, safari, chrome.. Office line, broadband, WIFI hotspots even Cybercafe, u name it.. Yet, I ended up having not-so-smooth experiences when it comes to cimbclicks juz for de sake of paying bills online.. Luckily they get branches everywhere.. Why cant they have good online services like m2u..

I dun hav any other cc beside the one i mentioned earlier.. So, cant comment much on other cards..
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QUOTE(hye @ Nov 24 2008, 10:45 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, the conversion rates are determined at the VISA/MC International level rather the HSBC's bank level.
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Yes, the conversion rates are supposedly determined by VISA/MC. But the transaction charge are determined by the local bank.

Anyone got any comparison of conversion rate by VISA vs MC?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:57 AM)
An acquaintance once told me. Not sure true or not. He said, when traveling overseas, HSBC charges/conversion rate is on the higher side. And they do charge an extra 1% for oversea transaction.

AFAIK, only DA has 0% oversea transaction charge. Most are 1% with EON the highest at 2%.
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i use my hsbc charge oversea...no charge oso...
never heard got additional charge....
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i use my hsbc charge oversea...no charge oso...
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Those extra bank charges are clearly stated in black and white.

http://www.hsbc.com.my/1/2/personal-bankin...rd-fees-charges

http://www.directaccess.com.my/index.php?c...rd&ac=12&tpt=da






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Hi guys, just wondering credit card restructuring is better option or balance transfer? As told restructuring rate is around 0.6% per annum.
Is that true? Please advise. Thanks.
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Hi guys, just wondering credit card restructuring is better option or balance transfer? As told restructuring rate is around 0.6% per annum.
Is that true? Please advise. Thanks.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 19 2008, 09:50 AM)
It is not entirely legal.
I've inputed my comments in this thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=796677

Can browse through why I say so.
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DA Platinum number 03-62047979. Is that the number you called?
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i've just applied for balance transfer with alliance bank. in the application for the cc i had to give a reference who is not my close relative. i gave them my office mate's name and phone no. why do they need this?

with my mbb cc i could just give them my brother's name. why do they need the reference? they never called my brother before also.
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QUOTE(panafone @ Nov 25 2008, 12:38 PM)
i've just applied for balance transfer with alliance bank. in the application for the cc i had to give a reference who is not my close relative. i gave them my office mate's name and phone no. why do they need this?

with my mbb cc i could just give them my brother's name. why do they need the reference? they never called my brother before also.
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This policy is in the event you did not pay for a few months and the bank can't contact you. The bank will then call these people in the hope that they know where you are. Sometimes the bank checks out the reference sometimes they don't - it is random but they will if they are slightly suspicious of your application.

This procedure is quite standard, so don't worry.
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I am seeking a template/ letter to a bank, in order to waive the credit card annual fees.

Can anyone send me a sample letter.

Thank you in advance. notworthy.gif
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no need la, just call them and ask
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Daddy's card.

They need to talk to my dad, but my dad can't speak well in English.
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It's on the first page of this topic.
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that one is cancellation of credit card.
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Catherine85, I take it as you are born in 1985 (from your nick) which makes you like 23 years old this year.

So learn to improvise. Luckily I didn't ask you to search the web or even ask you to use common sense to draft own letter.

What you need to do is change the termination/cancellation letter to asking for a waiver on credit card annual fees.
Also, this text here "Also, please confirm that you have notified all appropriate credit card bureaus that this account was closed at my request." you can take it off.

OR

Alternatively you can still call the bank. Most call centers here would have someone who speaks mandarin.
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anyone here using maybankard platinum cards which have the annual fee waived???(excluding the petronas visa platinum)
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QUOTE(allwerp @ Nov 25 2008, 05:53 PM)
anyone here using maybankard platinum cards which have the annual fee waived???(excluding the petronas visa platinum)
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As I always maintain my principle now, I don't go for cards that need you to call in/write letter/beg for annual fee waiver, whether you swipe RM1 or RM1,000,000 in a year.

Either switch to free-for-life, or if there are conditions like swipe at least twice a month or 12x per year. Swipe it and follow the conditions.

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QUOTE(allwerp @ Nov 25 2008, 05:53 PM)
anyone here using maybankard platinum cards which have the annual fee waived???(excluding the petronas visa platinum)
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I'm using MBB visa plat, you can get annual fee waived by calling them once they billed the fee in your statement. Afaik that work for every bank generic plat card except amex plat.
The one i can't sure is some bank plat card like Rhb which come with a priorty pass can get annual fee waived thru a phone call or not. No answer to this quest yet.




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This might be embarrassing. well I would like to ask, lets say my salary is 2k, after deduction left 1.8k. which should I use to declare my annual income?
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Daddy's card.

They need to talk to my dad, but my dad can't speak well in English.
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you shd ask the customer service who can speak mandarin!!!
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I understand the decision of credit limit is solely based on bank itself. but is it normal to get an entry limit for gold card (example 10k) for first timer even though the salary is reasonably high (example 8k per month)?
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 25 2008, 07:02 PM)
This might be embarrassing. well I would like to ask, lets say my salary is 2k, after deduction left 1.8k. which should I use to declare my annual income?
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Use gross salary. Even previous EA form and J form also based on gross salary. Hence 2k.

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A lot of ways to prove your income:

1. Payslip
2. EA or J form
3. EPF statement
4. Insurance premium payment slip (some forumer shared).
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Thanks for the prompt response. if a customer whom do not posses a savings account as opposed to those whom have a savings account in the same bank. will there be any difference in treatment? or its just same?
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 25 2008, 08:34 PM)
Thanks for the prompt response. if a customer whom do not posses a savings account as opposed to those whom have a savings account in the same bank. will there be any difference in treatment? or its just same?
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Technically speaking, no difference at all!
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 25 2008, 08:34 PM)
Thanks for the prompt response. if a customer whom do not posses a savings account as opposed to those whom have a savings account in the same bank. will there be any difference in treatment? or its just same?
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Again, my weird experience. My salary is banked into HSBC every month. I applied HSBC CC, submit all docs, salary slip, proof, etc. But I got rejected. doh.gif

Then I not happy already. One fine day, HSBC tele-marketer called me, and asked me fill up one single form. No docs. I fill up, faxed in, and they send me the CC. doh.gif All happened within 12 months period.

Same company, same salary, same home. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 25 2008, 08:50 PM)
Again, my weird experience. My salary is banked into HSBC every month. I applied HSBC CC, submit all docs, salary slip, proof, etc. But I got rejected.  doh.gif 

Then I not happy already. One fine day, HSBC tele-marketer called me, and asked me fill up one single form. No docs. I fill up, faxed in, and they send me the CC.  doh.gif  All happened within 12 months period.

Same company, same salary, same home.  rclxub.gif
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HSBC has a lousy management. This could be their non-integrated system like Maybank has whereby one button (maybe several clicks), all your financial products with Maybank could be retrieved on the screen.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 25 2008, 08:50 PM)
Again, my weird experience. My salary is banked into HSBC every month. I applied HSBC CC, submit all docs, salary slip, proof, etc. But I got rejected.  doh.gif 

Then I not happy already. One fine day, HSBC tele-marketer called me, and asked me fill up one single form. No docs. I fill up, faxed in, and they send me the CC.  doh.gif  All happened within 12 months period.

Same company, same salary, same home.  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 25 2008, 08:54 PM)
HSBC has a lousy management. This could be their non-integrated system like Maybank has whereby one button (maybe several clicks), all your financial products with Maybank could be retrieved on the screen.
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You have got to be kidding me right ? HSBC is like one of the most efficient banks in Malaysia, along with Public Bank.

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You have got to be kidding me right ? HSBC is like one of the most efficient banks in Malaysia, along with Public Bank.
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Seriously, my friend and I do not agree that HSBC is really efficient as everybody portrays.

They have only one classical credit card and they manage it like a total mess.

Some packages are tied with no annual fee for first 3 years but still got charged for it and couldn't get refund.

Seriously, some of my friends already cancelled them.

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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 25 2008, 10:41 PM)
Seriously, my friend and I do not agree that HSBC is really efficient as everybody portrays.

They have only one classical credit card and they manage it like a total mess.

Some packages are tied with no annual fee for first 3 years but still got charged for it and couldn't get refund.

Seriously, some of my friends already cancelled them.
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for people like me n you, sure will thinks HSBC is just another crap card, not much benefits but as you getting to higher income brackets, you will thinks HSBC the opposite as u thinks now.

perhaps, HSBC is not targeting fresh grad and young market but towards more mature and security wanted market.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 25 2008, 10:50 PM)
for people like me n you, sure will thinks HSBC is just another crap card, not much benefits but as you getting to higher income brackets, you will thinks HSBC the opposite as u thinks now.

perhaps, HSBC is not targeting fresh grad and young market but towards more mature and security wanted market.
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I'm not talking the benefits or privileges. No doubt that HSBC customer service is great; much better than most of the local banks. I also have to agree that the benefits or privileges that HSBC offers are not meant for an average joe or jane.

I'm talking about its efficiency.
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I'm not talking the benefits or privileges. No doubt that HSBC customer service is great; much better than most of the local banks. I also have to agree that the benefits or privileges that HSBC offers are not meant for an average joe or jane.

I'm talking about its efficiency.
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example of bad efficiency???
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I dunno if someone has discussed about this before but recently only i know Citibank Shell card petrol rebate is only deductible if you have outstanding from previous month. But i noticed tha they will accumulate your rebate as well. Is it like that for all Citibank card holders or izzit me only?

All the while i thought the petrol rebate will be given every month regardless of whether you have outstanding or not(because i have had outstanding for long time until i cleared it recently sweat.gif so i din notice)

My question is, is Maybank and CIMB petronas card also the same? i mean for their petrol rebate?

Also, for citibank card, do they have like point collection to redeem products?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 25 2008, 10:18 PM)
good lo... since u got what u want, still complain?
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At that time, I want it as the points and gifts are what I want. vmad.gif Now, after I got the CC, never swipe it at all. Still in mint condition, no scratch rolleyes.gif


Added on November 26, 2008, 12:32 amohya, since david83 mention it, the tele-marketer offer is 5 yrs free with no condition. No need swipe minimum per month./year

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 25 2008, 08:50 PM)
Again, my weird experience. My salary is banked into HSBC every month. I applied HSBC CC, submit all docs, salary slip, proof, etc. But I got rejected.  doh.gif 

Then I not happy already. One fine day, HSBC tele-marketer called me, and asked me fill up one single form. No docs. I fill up, faxed in, and they send me the CC.  doh.gif  All happened within 12 months period.

Same company, same salary, same home.  rclxub.gif
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Then one fine day, a HSBC tele-marketer is short of target sales so you got lucky?


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I dunno if someone has discussed about this before but recently only i know Citibank Shell card petrol rebate is only deductible if you have outstanding from previous month. But i noticed tha they will accumulate your rebate as well. Is it like that for all Citibank card holders or izzit me only?

All the while i thought the petrol rebate will be given every month regardless of whether you have outstanding or not(because i have had outstanding for long time until i cleared it recently  sweat.gif so i din notice)

My question is, is Maybank and CIMB petronas card also the same? i mean for their petrol rebate?

Also, for citibank card, do they have like point collection to redeem products?
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What's the % rebate for Citibank Shell now?

AFAIK,
RHB only for 1st weekend of the month: 5%
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Then one fine day, a HSBC tele-marketer is short of target sales so you got lucky?
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No, I did not hit on her sweat.gif doh.gif tongue.gif
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No, I did not hit on her  sweat.gif  doh.gif  tongue.gif
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What a waste ...... or maybe you not telling??? brows.gif

Finally after a record time of 2 months, I have finally terminated all my Maybank card .... what a relief rclxm9.gif
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which bank's card currently got good free gift upon successful application?
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QUOTE(zenwell @ Nov 25 2008, 11:54 PM)
I dunno if someone has discussed about this before but recently only i know Citibank Shell card petrol rebate is only deductible if you have outstanding from previous month. But i noticed tha they will accumulate your rebate as well. Is it like that for all Citibank card holders or izzit me only?

All the while i thought the petrol rebate will be given every month regardless of whether you have outstanding or not(because i have had outstanding for long time until i cleared it recently  sweat.gif so i din notice)

My question is, is Maybank and CIMB petronas card also the same? i mean for their petrol rebate?

Also, for citibank card, do they have like point collection to redeem products?
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you should've read the conditions properly. Last time they do the promotion/advertisement of rebate up to X%. I wondered what the hell was "up to X%" about and found out that you need to have a few THOUSAND bucks outstanding to get that damn rebate. Its really stupid considering you're paying a lot more on the card's interest doh.gif I guess this is what they call marketing gimmic.

I use Shell petrol but don't use that Citylame card. Using RHB travelmoney as they have good promotion on petrol rebates (at the moment its 5% on the first weekend of the month, and 2% on other days). Last time when the promotion period for the petrol rebate ended, they renewed the promotion period. They'll keep renewing it, so dun worry about the promotion time limit. And the rebate is not limited to just one petrol station company...Petronas, Shell, BHP, Caltex...any station you go to, got rebate.

If I'm not mistaken, other cards also offer similar petrol rebate promotions. Except Maybank...they only give points. As far as I know these cards have petrol rebates - OUB card (BHP only), Direct Access, CIMB (Petronas only), Citylame (Shell), RHB (All). Mostly only give 2% rebate though...so you might want to consider how much you're saving by getting the card and compare it to how much the card's annual fee or other fees cost. As the petrol prices are reducing, 2% is not much at all.

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QUOTE(inuyasha88 @ Nov 26 2008, 08:57 AM)
which bank's card currently got good free gift upon successful application?
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I think it should be rephrase to:
which bank's card currently got good free gift upon unsuccessful application?

Anyway, if you are looking for gifts, just apply at roadshows where they'll give free gifts. I remember RHB offer the Renault F1 toy car and also a set of "plastic" crystal chess set. Quite nice actually.

Then hope they will reject your application tongue.gif

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I applied for Public Bank Visa Gold...i submit my payslips & epf statement...
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my annual income (basic only) is rm27600....

but the bank rejected it with no reason.... although approval subject to their sole discretion, but put in the advertisement requirement so low with minimum documents.... if like this dont bother to promote your product la...
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 26 2008, 12:30 PM)
Anyway, if you are looking for gifts, just apply at roadshows where they'll give free gifts. I remember RHB offer the Renault F1 toy car and also a set of "plastic" crystal chess set. Quite nice actually.

Then hope they will reject your application  tongue.gif
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I felt so unsafe giving my details to those people by the road side. I have nightmares thinking what they could have done with it.


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QUOTE(he-sham @ Nov 26 2008, 12:40 PM)
I applied for Public Bank Visa Gold...i submit my payslips & epf statement...
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my annual income (basic only) is rm27600....

but the bank rejected it with no reason.... although approval subject to their sole discretion, but put in the advertisement requirement so low with minimum documents.... if like this dont bother to promote your product la...
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It is most likely due to other reasons like CCRIS, CTOS, call home/office to verify, etc.


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I felt so unsafe giving my details to those people by the road side. I have nightmares thinking what they could have done with it.
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No doubt, but if you know how things work, e.g. online banking, ATM, etc. You may not use it ever again tongue.gif Even the document workflow process over the counters.

Sometimes, it is better not to know it.


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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 26 2008, 12:56 PM)
No doubt, but if you know how things work, e.g. online banking, ATM, etc. You may not use it ever again  tongue.gif  Even the document workflow process over the counters.

Sometimes, it is better not to know it.
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OK. I went out and claim I am from ** CC company. I get your photostatted copies of your IC, your other Credit Card, your mother's maiden name and other details etc. The amount of damage I could do will be immense.

On the other hand, if you hand those documents to the staff inside the bank, the chances of mischief will be much less because at the very least, you know the staff is genuine. .

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 26 2008, 12:56 PM)
It is most likely due to other reasons like CCRIS, CTOS, call home/office to verify, etc.
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what are CCRIS & CTOS ??
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what are CCRIS & CTOS ??
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I've updated the first page with this links:
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CCRIS: http://creditbureau.bnm.gov.my/
CTOS: http://www.ctos.com.my/
BRIS: http://bris.com.my/index.html

You can visit all to get what their functions are and how banks utilised them to check on one's worthiness.
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I've seen how they use CCRIS before. Its really detailed...up to the past 24 months of your life.
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I've seen how they use CCRIS before. Its really detailed...up to the past 24 months of your life.
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It's only 12 months. And to be exact; it's only like 10-11 months of payment string.

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Hi, guy want to know which bank give the best rate for Balance Transfer amount over RM5000 ?

The best I get is PB Balance Transfer which give me 10% one time fee for 36 monthly payment. Which is about 3.6% P.A.

Its true or there is other choice/bank ?
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Anyone know where can I escalated my complain regarding my MBB card application ?

Its totally plain useless speaking to the operator each time I call them.

I have requested super urgent request, and I waited 2 weeks and my application not even receive mad.gif After check finally they receive it. Guess what, they ask me to courier my application form again. vmad.gif

Fine then, after few days they receive it and request for my full office add.

I have updated to the person on last wednesday, but until now still not a single damn update on it.

Each time i call and the operator telling me the same thing again n again. I think till now I have update them my office address for at least 7 times !!!!!!!!!!! imagine tat

anyone have idea or any email or contact to really speak to the person in charge ?
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Norns,

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Are you really desperate for MBB cards ? Why not try apply other banks ?

FYI, I'm MBB CC holder as well and I do agree generally the people and CS are a pain in the neck to deal with. I rather deal with machines (ATM, CDM, Online Banking, etc.) than humans in MBB. Why I use MBB is because it has the largest ATM network, the Amex 2x TP and current Petronas 5x are tempting.

If you really serious, just go direct to Menara Maybank CC CS counter. It is jam, waste time but I always get the things done there and it is still slow (expectation).
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I've seen how they use CCRIS before. Its really detailed...up to the past 24 months of your life.
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Its 12 months...not 24.
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Norns,

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Are you really desperate for MBB cards ? Why not try apply other banks ?

FYI, I'm MBB CC holder as well and I do agree generally the people and CS are a pain in the neck to deal with. I rather deal with machines (ATM, CDM, Online Banking, etc.) than humans in MBB. Why I use MBB is because it has the largest ATM network, the Amex 2x TP and current Petronas 5x are tempting.

If you really serious, just go direct to Menara Maybank CC CS counter. It is jam, waste time but I always get the things done there and it is still slow (expectation).
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Hmm i prefer a better convenient way lol, such as email or speak to the person who can make decision unlike the CC sad.gif

Not to say im real desperate for mbb cards, but i've only apply this bank since i got my payslip last month. I've waited so long and I got different update each time i call their CC mad.gif this really make me frust

i can apply another bank now, but i suppose it'll take another few weeks cry.gif

hope to hear advice how to get in touch with mbb card centre person in charge notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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I'm not sure how interest are calculated for balance transfer and personal loan. My understanding is for balance transfer the interest will be calculated by X % (interest rate) times each of the month outstanding balance while for personal X % times the total loan. so that's means for personal loan the interest is fixed every month. can someone confirm this? I ask this question to evaluate which is more cheaper to settle outstanding balance.
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QUOTE(Norns @ Nov 28 2008, 01:01 PM)
Hmm i prefer a better convenient way lol, such as email or speak to the person who can make decision unlike the CC sad.gif

Not to say im real desperate for mbb cards, but i've only apply this bank since i got my payslip last month. I've waited so long and I got different update each time i call their CC mad.gif this really make me frust

i can apply another bank now, but i suppose it'll take another few weeks cry.gif

hope to hear advice how to get in touch with mbb card centre person in charge  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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maybe u can request to talk to their team leader, these CS every shift there will be a team leader as their supervisor.
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citibank airasia rejected my application although i fulfill their requirements. and no reasons are given. how am i goin to improve myself without any reason?
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Norns,

If you are a degree grad, go and apply CIMB Direct Access. They have the fastest turnaround time for card application and approval, although may not have the best CS as some claimed here. I myself upgraded my DA card recently, and I received the new cards in <1 week (5 working days) after submit form/proof.

For comparison, my MBB Petronas CC took me 2 months, and that is after I call up CS to check and chase after 7 weeks. In my case, it might be easier to chase as I'm an existing MBB a/c and CC client. I have good payment track record and history.

If you still want to continue with MBB CC application, each time you call up, ask for the CS name and write it down together with the date and time. Then submit official complain to MBB CC center (not banking) with these proof and ask them to expedite.


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citibank airasia rejected my application although i fulfill their requirements. and no reasons are given. how am i goin to improve myself without any reason?
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citibank airasia rejected my application although i fulfill their requirements. and no reasons are given. how am i goin to improve myself without any reason?
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boboi, i juz love de way u commented.. Yup, its unfair.. I was one of de citibank casualties.. On de same day i got rejected i applied for maybank.. n luckily 3 weeks later got my card.. Now they even upgrade de CL w'out me knowing..
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fikrie,

I'm a Citibank casualty also. My first CC application was a Citibank and MBB. Citibank rejected me. MBB approved me. After 12 months, Citibank starts to get aggressive and send free CC to me without application many times. I cancel/reject back all (revenge *evil* ) tongue.gif including the latest Shell Card. Out of the 5-10x free cards after so many years, I only keep 1 Citibank CC offered for backup purpose. The other rejected cards, I keep as souvenir tongue.gif big stack. Maybe one day can use as coffee table design and put a piece of tempered-glass on top whistling.gif

My latest casualty this year is HSBC. My monthly salary is banked into HSBC. I try to apply early this year and rejected. Several months back, they call and give me a card doh.gif

Is life fair to me ? no. So I moved on. smile.gif

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 28 2008, 03:49 PM)
fikrie,

I'm a Citibank casualty also. My first CC application was a Citibank and MBB. Citibank rejected me. MBB approved me. After 12 months, Citibank starts to get aggressive and send free CC to me without application many times. I cancel/reject back all (revenge *evil* ) tongue.gif including the latest Shell Card. Out of the 5-10x free cards after so many years, I only keep 1 Citibank CC offered for backup purpose. The other rejected cards, I keep as souvenir  tongue.gif  big stack. Maybe one day can use as coffee table design and put a piece of tempered-glass on top  whistling.gif

My latest casualty this year is HSBC. My monthly salary is banked into HSBC. I try to apply early this year and rejected. Several months back, they call and give me a card  doh.gif

Is life fair to me ? no. So I moved on.  smile.gif
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Lucky Citibank they didnt do same thing to me juz like wat they did 2u.. O'wise i'd had my revenge then (but i'll get more tempted i guess!!) I always wanted to have my own card collection.. But my wallet has no enough room for extra cards.. I guess enough is enough..

even life isnt that fair, but being grateful always a good thing to do.. Life must go on..
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erh.. well, it really depends on luck.. perhaps.
I tried to apply 4 cards before, which were citi, hsbc, mbb and rhb. All also approved.

citi- approved within 3 days and got the card in the next week.
hsbc - got the card within 3 weeks.
mbb and rhb slightly longer - around 1 month

oh well, i just cut rhb cc today laugh.gif
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i juz get my hongleong CC approved in 3-4days after i submitted my form .

they phone to my office to confirmed the address so that can send the approval letter to me ...

damn...economy nowadays is very bad .. i guess u can simply get any creditcard now

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I got the thing that I redeemed from Maybank TP.

Surprisingly the turn around time is pretty fast; roughly in 1.5 weeks after faxing the redemption form.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 28 2008, 07:12 PM)
I got the thing that I redeemed from Maybank TP.

Surprisingly the turn around time is pretty fast; roughly in 1.5 weeks after faxing the redemption form.
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fax? so troublesome!

HSBC is online redemption! haha

btw, Citibank upgraded my CL almost 1 times of my CL. now i got double of my CL than previous. sweat.gif

thinking of going to cancel it.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 28 2008, 10:39 PM)
fax? so troublesome!

HSBC is online redemption! haha

btw, Citibank upgraded my CL almost 1 times of my CL. now i got double of my CL than previous.  sweat.gif 

thinking of going to cancel it.
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But last time when I did an online redemption with HSBC, it took ages. I have to call CS to check my status and guess what, they said the online redemption that I did somehow didn't go through! WTH!
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Hi, guy want to know which bank give the best rate for Balance Transfer amount over RM5000 ?

The best I get is PB Balance Transfer which give me 10% one time fee for 36 monthly payment. Which is about 3.6% P.A.

Its true or there is other choice/bank ?

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Just get my Maybank AMEX card, wanna ask something here, did you guys call to the Maybank and ask them waive your AMEX annual fee and how they response?

I heard nowsaday not all of the bank will waive your annual fee when you call to them (eg Citibank Co-brand card), but i wish the bank can waive for me instead of using my hard earning treat point to pay for the annual fee (10000 points = RM 5000 spend on the AMEX card)

Mine one is Maybank AMEX Classic

Hope somebody helps, thank you
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 29 2008, 10:43 AM)
Just get my Maybank AMEX card, wanna ask something here, did you guys call to the Maybank and ask them waive your AMEX annual fee and how they response?

I heard nowsaday not all of the bank will waive your annual fee when you call to them (eg Citibank Co-brand card), but i wish the bank can waive for me instead of using my hard earning treat point to pay for the annual fee (10000 points = RM 5000 spend on the AMEX card)

Mine one is Maybank AMEX Classic

Hope somebody helps, thank you
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Your AMEX card is an additional card or a brand new applied card?
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Your AMEX card is an additional card or a brand new applied card?
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It is a brand new card.

i've applied and get the Maybank Petronas VISA before that, i applied AMEX Credit Card after a month
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darn...totally forgotten to pay this month's statement until today. There goes my perfect "on-time" streak...
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It is a brand new card.

i've applied and get the Maybank Petronas VISA before that, i applied AMEX Credit Card after a month
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So did they charge annual fee already? I believe shouldn't have.
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QUOTE(aeronlim @ Nov 29 2008, 10:43 AM)
Just get my Maybank AMEX card, wanna ask something here, did you guys call to the Maybank and ask them waive your AMEX annual fee and how they response?

I heard nowsaday not all of the bank will waive your annual fee when you call to them (eg Citibank Co-brand card), but i wish the bank can waive for me instead of using my hard earning treat point to pay for the annual fee (10000 points = RM 5000 spend on the AMEX card)

Mine one is Maybank AMEX Classic

Hope somebody helps, thank you
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just got the card, and so fast worry about annual fees??

if im not wrong, Amex got give either 1 year or 3 years waiver.
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just got the card, and so fast worry about annual fees??

if im not wrong, Amex got give either 1 year or 3 years waiver.
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For fresh application (not as additional to existing cards), one is entitled to 2 years waiver.
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But last time when I did an online redemption with HSBC, it took ages. I have to call CS to check my status and guess what, they said the online redemption that I did somehow didn't go through! WTH!
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i have no problem at all.
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No 1 complain bout alliance bank cc ?
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maybe coz no one here ever had any experience wit alliance to share.. anyone?
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anyone has experience with Hong Leong Bank? they current promotion for balance transfer sound interesting. 6.99% p.a for life or you can take other BT with low interest in 6, 9 or 12 months
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I am using Alliance bank CC since early this year. So far no complain except during application. They reject my first application even though I have 4 other CC from other back with good track record.

Cash back option is good.
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No 1 complain bout alliance bank cc ?
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Im using one. Just got a gold card from them. They do give crazy CL (I used my HSBC to apply, CL was 9.5k, was almost doubled to 18k).
One thing though, it says can get back 1.3% rebate but nothing shown in the bill. Since I got my bill, has stop using. Back to Citibank.
This month rebate sure kao kao... help my boss take car to repair, 3.5k + air ticket 1.7k... almost RM50 rebate + RM10 petrol rebate can go eat Jogoya liao.
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The cash rebate for the alliance back CC only come in on the next month statement. Usually the first item on the subsequent month statement. It is not exactly 1.3% but rather tier rate.
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is it safe to apply credit card over the promotion counter at the shopping mall? do they need to photocopy both side of our credit card from the other bank?
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QUOTE(Norns @ Nov 28 2008, 09:23 AM)
Anyone know where can I escalated my complain regarding my MBB card application ?

Its totally plain useless speaking to the operator each time I call them.

I have requested super urgent request, and I waited 2 weeks and my application not even receive mad.gif After check finally they receive it. Guess what, they ask me to courier my application form again. vmad.gif

Fine then, after few days they receive it and request for my full office add.

I have updated to the person on last wednesday, but until now still not a single damn update on it.

Each time i call and the operator telling me the same thing again n again. I think till now I have update them my office address for at least 7 times !!!!!!!!!!! imagine tat

anyone have idea or any email or contact to really speak to the person in charge ?
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ur experience same wit me bro during applying Ambank card. But ur the worst, mine after 7 working days I submitted app to bank branch, check with hotline I knew CS will tell me the same thing again on my next call asking me to wait week & week( I knew not their fault due to they just answer call only but given not much power to rectify problem)

I keep on calling to the branch I submitted, make sure they handed up application. besides that I email twice to Ambank but never get reply, I knew it couldn't help much but at least can draw their attention.

Finally my application was done in 22 working days given 3K CL only sad.gif
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YA u will get more C/L if u apply ALLIANCE BANK CC wit ur overseas bank card or do BT
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I applied for Citibank AirAsia and they told me I'll not be entitled to this and that due to... guess wat, becos I'm an existing Citibank CC holder! I thought loyal customers should enjoy more benefits?

At first they said I'm not entitled for free mp3 player from the promotion therefore only voucher available for me. Fine nvm. Later on they told me I'm not even entitled for the RM50 voucher, only RM20 for me!! WHAT? WTH, RM20 voucher??? Like peanuts!!

Has anyone faced similar situation like me? Is there any way to bargain for more "free gifts" for new application? Lets share some tips! hehe
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lol where did u apply the AIR ASIA card ? NORMALLY salesman in shopping mall seldom do 2nd card becoz got no commission , all i noe is 2nd card for citibank only earn RM20 commission if the card approve ...


Added on November 30, 2008, 11:16 pmANy1 got ikea card ?

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Noob question, which bank is good for very less use, first time application, free forever without any minimum commitment, and can access to e-statement? Thanks.
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Regarding the above, what's the amount needed by the bank in order to get a regular visa card and how long is the approval time?

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Hello,
I'm new here in Lowyat forums. I submitted my application to Public Bank last month and the credit card should be ready this week. They require (actually most banks) RM5K only as minimum (or shall I say, initial) amount for FD (rate is 3.70% - 12 months)... as your pledge for a credit card. I gave them RM10K for an FD and then PB staff said I'm eligible for Gold credit card. I have read the agreement that they asked me sign.. I can renew the FD for 7 years.

I phoned CIMB and Citibank the other day... to ask if they also offer credit card for any FD. They said "yes". The requirement is the same as Public Bank -- minimum RM5K and copy of IC.

I'll see if PB's credit card is OK... if not, I might FD also at Citibank.

Update: Just collected today (1st Dec) the PB visa gold credit and debit cards. No PIN yet for the credit card but I think I can start using the credit card to get a new desktop biggrin.gif
BTW, I'm surprised that the credit card is valid for 2 years. I was expecting 1 year only since it's my first credit card blush.gif

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anyone Doing Citibank Credit Card.

i Want to apply AirAsia Citibank Card

AnyOne Can HElp? I WAnt The Free Troller Bag
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MEMEME i got fren doing CITIBANK CC .. PM me ..... WHO WANNA APPLY ALLIANCE CASH BACK CARD ? OR IKEA CARD ?
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QUOTE(numx @ Dec 1 2008, 01:16 AM)
MEMEME i got fren doing CITIBANK CC .. PM me ..... WHO WANNA APPLY ALLIANCE CASH BACK CARD ? OR IKEA CARD ?
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If I have Ikea card and normal Alliance Credit Card, can I apply for the Cash back card?
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Anyone encountered not receiving credit card statement for the month and ended up getting charged for late payment?

What the... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Possible to request for the waiver for late payment charges? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


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YA u can call to customers service to waive the late payment charges ....


skygreen " NO " U already have 2 alliance bank cards ,
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Anyone encountered not receiving credit card statement for the month and ended up getting charged for late payment?

What the... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

Possible to request for the waiver for late payment charges?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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If it is Citi card, forget about it.
Assuming they waive. Then next month, they will charge you late payment charge on the 1st late payment charge and it will go on forever.
Been there. Done that. Many times.
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Anyone encountered not receiving credit card statement for the month and ended up getting charged for late payment?
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I suggest you to only get credit card that have online facility. That way you can be spared from late bills.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 1 2008, 09:56 AM)
If it is Citi card, forget about it.
Assuming they waive. Then next month, they will charge you late payment charge on the 1st late payment charge and it will go on forever.
Been there. Done that. Many times.
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Thanks..Its CIMB..

Bank are out to make money after all..

QUOTE(hye @ Dec 1 2008, 10:00 AM)
I suggest you to only get credit card that have online facility. That way you can be spared from late bills.
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CIMB online makes me pening.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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Hi every1... I just got my UOB CC last week...
Can any1 teach me how do i ON9 to pay the CC???
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anyone got the 'right' email for me to complain my cc maybank application ?

up to now, i call the call centre 15 min back n guess wat ... SAME ANSWER AGAIn

i think i update them my office address for 100 times also they wont update it mad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 1 2008, 09:56 AM)
If it is Citi card, forget about it.
Assuming they waive. Then next month, they will charge you late payment charge on the 1st late payment charge and it will go on forever.
Been there. Done that. Many times.
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Is Citibank really gives such bad services? So far I'm not having any problems with their credit cards after using it for nearly 2 years. The only time Citibank gives me a week of headache is when i try to apply the personal loan and the service is so bad.


Anyway, may I know if we have cancelled a certain cc, is it safe to continue to keep the card as collection or is it better to cut it up and pass back to the bank?

if I wanna cancel UOB card, can i just go to the branch and settle the balance or do I still need to write a letter?

Thanks notworthy.gif
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Hi every1... I just got my UOB CC last week...
Can any1 teach me how do i ON9 to pay the CC???
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U need to walk in to any of the branches, bring along ur ic. they will give u a very long temp id, u can ready a 7-digit numerical password, they will ask u to key in during the processing as ur temp password for 1st time login. back to home, use ur pc login to www.uob.com.my, job done.
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QUOTE(boonsin23 @ Dec 1 2008, 05:46 PM)
U need to walk in to any of the branches, bring along ur ic. they will give u a very long temp id, u can ready a 7-digit numerical password, they will ask u to key in during the processing as ur temp password for 1st time login. back to home, use ur pc login to www.uob.com.my, job done.
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Must walk in ah???
In JB oni got 2 UOB leh...
So leceh de oh...
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QUOTE(pingping86 @ Dec 1 2008, 08:01 PM)
Must walk in ah???
In JB oni got 2 UOB leh...
So leceh de oh...
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before you apply the card, you shd have aware of the circumstances that u going to face!

pls dun complain here n there, it's your own punya faults... tht's the price u need to pay when u get foreign bank.

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QUOTE(pingping86 @ Dec 1 2008, 08:01 PM)
Must walk in ah???
In JB oni got 2 UOB leh...
So leceh de oh...
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Actually you can write in to do all that but of course it will take longer. (I did all this before, so I know)


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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 1 2008, 10:53 PM)
before you apply the card, you shd have aware of the circumstances that u going to face!

pls dun complain here n there, it's your own punya faults... tht's the price u need to pay when u get foreign bank.
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Yup ... couldn't agree more. Always be aware of the consequences when you apply for any cc from any bank - each bank got their own peculiarities.

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Is it safe to accept services offered by 3rd party company? Last week someone called me and offered me insurance services. They got my info through my CC company. Autodebit Rm39/month.
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anyone here using AMEX Charge Card? AMEX has Classic & Gold cards which offered to the public, which these cards have no preset credit limit. So anyone can explain how can this happen if somebody holds the classic card, can he/she swap for RM50k?? In theoretical its quite hard for the card holder to settle the payment if their annual income is @ RM30k+-? Another is whats the diff between their Classic or Gold members?

Anybody can share?
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boonsin23,

This is a Credit Card thread. There is a separate thread for Amex Charge Card.

Your questions are answered there on the "no preset CL"

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 1 2008, 09:56 AM)
If it is Citi card, forget about it.
Assuming they waive. Then next month, they will charge you late payment charge on the 1st late payment charge and it will go on forever.
Been there. Done that. Many times.
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we should start practice paying the statement the moment the bill arrives, or on the usual date of the statement.

btw, anyone heard about that Ambank True Visa card? 12% p.a. Sounds tempting...
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QUOTE(Norns @ Dec 1 2008, 05:12 PM)
anyone got the 'right' email for me to complain my cc maybank application ?

up to now, i call the call centre 15 min back n guess wat ... SAME ANSWER AGAIn

i think i update them my office address for 100 times also they wont update it mad.gif mad.gif
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I remembered last time they took 3 months to update my cc statement address.
what a efficient works they done? tongue.gif
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Is it safe to accept services offered by 3rd party company? Last week someone called me and offered me insurance services. They got my info through my CC company. Autodebit Rm39/month.
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I never sign this kind of insurance, because I hardly get their information sometimes,
and the information they give is not details at all, many term n conditions inside which we may not know. tongue.gif
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boonsin23,

This is a Credit Card thread. There is a separate thread for Amex Charge Card.

Your questions are answered there on the "no preset CL"
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we should start practice paying the statement the moment the bill arrives, or on the usual date of the statement.

btw, anyone heard about that Ambank True Visa card? 12% p.a. Sounds tempting...
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why wan to get CC tht give 12% p.a or 18% when u planning to let them charge u interest?

u shd not get it at the 1st place!
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 2 2008, 04:33 PM)
we should start practice paying the statement the moment the bill arrives, or on the usual date of the statement.

btw, anyone heard about that Ambank True Visa card? 12% p.a. Sounds tempting...
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How about this example for punctuality?

Statement date: 1-Nov
Statement received: 4-Nov
Payment made and check cleared from my account: 7-Nov

And still got hit by late payment mad.gif

As I said, been there, done that with citi

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How about this example for punctuality?

Statement date: 1-Nov
Statement received: 4-Nov
Payment made and check cleared from my account: 7-Nov

And still got hit by late  payment mad.gif

As I said, been there, done that with citi
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my goodness?!?! were they using lunar year practice? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:36 PM)
How about this example for punctuality?

Statement date: 1-Nov
Statement received: 4-Nov
Payment made and check cleared from my account: 7-Nov

And still got hit by late  payment mad.gif

As I said, been there, done that with citi
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i thinks some bad apple do happened. importantly u communicate with the Customer Service. demand explanation.

else, complain to bank negara.

since u face this kind of problems, did u know what's the reason why it's happened? how u solve it?
mind to share?

dun just complain, share with us, else keep it to yourself.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:36 PM)
How about this example for punctuality?

Statement date: 1-Nov
Statement received: 4-Nov
Payment made and check cleared from my account: 7-Nov

And still got hit by late  payment mad.gif

As I said, been there, done that with citi
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Normally I will call up to the customer explain my situation to them,
They will waive the interest charges and also RM5 late payment fee as well.
Of course I have to waste maybe I think 90cents if I don't go to the bank to make the call.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 2 2008, 10:30 PM)
i thinks some bad apple do happened. importantly u communicate with the Customer Service. demand explanation.

else, complain to bank negara.

since u face this kind of problems, did u know what's the reason why it's happened? how u solve it?
mind to share?

dun just complain, share with us, else keep it to yourself.
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This what happens next.

1. Called up. CC agree to refund late payment charge.
2. Subsequent month's bill will see new late payment charge of the late payment charge.
3. Repeat #1 again and #2 will also happen again.
4. Repeat #3
5. Repeat #4

I got so fed up that I send a check with a covering letter. In the letter, I mentioned they have no right to the money and if they have any ethic at all, they do not need to return the money but give it to charity. They cashed the check so what can I say? No ethic? Lousy computer system?

BTW, the same thing happening to my friends so mine wasn't an isolated case.

So there you have it. I will not want to touch another of their card with a ten foot pole.


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Look at the star newspaper today. HSBC Amanah promote their new Platinum card-i. 5% cash rebate for 5th transaction & 0.5% for other transaction. Looks good, the first 4 transaction we buy only small transaction but on the 5th buy BIG items. haha.
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QUOTE(GHz @ Dec 3 2008, 08:22 AM)
Look at the star newspaper today. HSBC Amanah promote their new Platinum card-i. 5% cash rebate for 5th transaction & 0.5% for other transaction. Looks good, the first 4 transaction we buy only small transaction but on the 5th buy BIG items. haha.
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I saw this too. Bear in mind that you don't get any points for your spendings. Comparatively,SCB has the same with their Platinum Business card (Unlimited 0.5% rebate for all transactions except petrol purchases, you get to accumulate points & 3X points for overseas purchases) The 5% cash rebate is interesting but I want to check it out whether this is a short time promo. (See the * in the advert ? It says Terms and Conditions apply) The website has no info on this 5% cash rebate yet.

Similarly Alliance Bank has a up to 1.5% tiered rebate for purchases but capped @ RM5K.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 2 2008, 08:29 PM)
why wan to get CC tht give 12% p.a or 18% when u planning to let them charge u interest?

u shd not get it at the 1st place!
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no la, I do have a small balance in my credit cards. Plus, one of the card's feature is 0% interest for the first 3 months after purchase wor...

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:36 PM)
How about this example for punctuality?

Statement date: 1-Nov
Statement received: 4-Nov
Payment made and check cleared from my account: 7-Nov

And still got hit by late  payment mad.gif

As I said, been there, done that with citi
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wow...the things they'll do for a buck or two whistling.gif
I'll just cancel the card after the 2nd/3rd time repeat same problem...
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Good morning to all the forumer here,

I would like to know which credit card (CC) offer the highest cash back so far?

I planning to apply a new credit card but i not sure which CC offer the best previlege or cash rebate. From what i see, HSBC and Citibank sound the best. Pls correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
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The truth of the matter is, you will need several cards because no one card fits all.

I have:
1. RHB Travel Money because it gives me fuel rebate. 5% on 1st weekend and 2% other time. I fill up all my cars on 1st weekend.
2. SCB because it gives me 30 days purchase protection. I buy big ticket item with them for the protection. The last being a laptop.
3. EON. Because it's easiest to qualify for free. A deliberately low RM3000 limit card for use in restaurant and online purchases.
4. DA. My main free for life card with higher limit.
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mmmm... how bout cash back? which CC offer the best cash back so far?
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QUOTE(SkyBlue® @ Dec 3 2008, 09:20 AM)
mmmm... how bout cash back? which CC offer the best cash back so far?
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Read it up my friend. If you go back a few post then you'll find the answer. We do our homework to give this forum the info but at least we expect the readers to make some effort to read.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2008, 09:11 AM)
The truth of the matter is, you will need several cards because no one card fits all.

I have:
1. RHB Travel Money because it gives me fuel rebate. 5% on 1st weekend and 2% other time. I fill up all my cars on 1st weekend.
2. SCB because it gives me 30 days purchase protection. I buy big ticket item with them for the protection. The last being a laptop.
3. EON. Because it's easiest to qualify for free. A deliberately low RM3000 limit card for use in restaurant and online purchases.
4. DA. My main free for life card with higher limit.
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SCB is? Standard Charted Bank? What kind of protection they provide?

QUOTE(SkyBlue® @ Dec 3 2008, 09:20 AM)
mmmm... how bout cash back? which CC offer the best cash back so far?
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jeez, Optiplex just gave you good answers and you repeat your question???
do you even know what kind of cash back you want? Groceries? Petrol? Bills?
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SCB is? Standard Charted Bank? What kind of protection they provide?

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Purchase Protection

Your purchases are automatically insured when you use your Standard Chartered Visa Infinite
Credit Card. Purchase Protection assures you of a worry-free experience every time you make purchases with your Credit Card within 30 days from the date of purchase, with coverage of up to RM100,000.

Purchase Protection insurance is underwritten by MSIG Insurance (Malaysia) Bhd. For more details and Terms and Conditions, please click here.

http://www.standardchartered.com.my/person...l/en/index.html

I always use it for big ticket item. You never knows when you needed it. And since my SCB card is free, why not?

I think HSBC may have similar offering. Not sure.

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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 3 2008, 09:33 AM)
Read it up my friend. If you go back a few post then you'll find the answer. We do our homework to give this forum the info but at least we expect the readers to make some effort to read.
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I did. Just that i couldn't find it. I would be pleased if you can direct the page for me. thanks ya.
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I never sign this kind of insurance, because I hardly get their information sometimes,
and the information they give is not details at all, many term n conditions inside which we may not know. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 3 2008, 09:39 AM)

jeez, Optiplex just gave you good answers and you repeat your question???
do you even know what kind of cash back you want? Groceries? Petrol? Bills?
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Sorry, my bad. what i mean is which CC offer the best cash rebate for groceries. I know UOB one card offer 0.3% for general groceries other than those specific mentioend like Tesco, BP and etc. HSBC Amanah offer 0.5% for all other retail transaction. I just wonder, is there any other CC offer something higher than 0.5% for general groceries?


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wasn't Maybank giving 5% (10% on Tuesdays) at Carrefour? Even if you know what kind of cash back you want, you're most likely limited to one particular brand of supermarket to go to. Tesco also has a similar promotion but I don't know which cc is applicable for the cash back.
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Another cc that I would not want to touch with a ten foot pole would be AM's. Terrible experience.

1. Bought a big ticket item and reaches end of credit limit.
2. Immediately deposited the full CASH amount for the item into CC.
3. Called up to same evening to confirm CASH received. They told me I have full credit again.

Went on holiday next day. Card rejected everywhere and almost have to sleep on the street because hotel wouldn't accept. Called up AM and they say even though cash received, their system needed a few day to update so meanwhile....too bad....there is nothing they can do. Sleep on the street if you have to.

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Optiplex330,

Wow, that's bad and slow system. I encounter several times your scenario, but I'm using MBB CC and no problem with it.

E.g.
At overseas hotel, online inside hotel room before checkout and check CC CL balance.
CL: 10k, used up 8k
Immediate online Maybank2u 5k cash payment, used-up available become 8k-5k=3k
Pack up, go down and check out hotel. Swipe 4k immediate, used up 3k+4k=7k

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In all fairness, my terrible experience was before Internet and online becomes common.

But there is still no reason why they told me the evening before I went on holiday that I have full credit available. Available means USABLE and it is certainly NOT. To make matter worst, it was Christmas eve! And in a resort hotel far far away from town to be able to use ATM to withdraw money. Now you can understand why I would never ever use their card again.

But the lesson taught me 1 thing. Never leave home with just 1 card or cards from the same bank. Nowadays, it's at least 2 cards from different bank and different operator (Visa and MC). Who knows, may be Visa computer could be down and MC running or vice versa?

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QUOTE(SkyBlue® @ Dec 3 2008, 10:18 AM)
Sorry, my bad. what i mean is which CC offer the best cash rebate for groceries. I know UOB one card offer 0.3% for general groceries other than those specific mentioend like Tesco, BP and etc. HSBC Amanah offer 0.5% for all other retail transaction. I just wonder, is there any other CC offer something higher than 0.5% for general groceries?
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Alliance bank. Up to 1.5% tier rate. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:28 PM)
But the lesson taught me 1 thing. Never leave home with just 1 card or cards from the same bank. Nowadays, it's at least 2 cards from different bank and different operator (Visa and MC). Who knows, may be Visa computer could be down and MC running or vice versa?
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Sorry to hear about your experience. I ran close into your problem before where the bank refuse to increase my CL temporarily. My CL nearly maxed out when I checked out and thank god I did not run out of it or I would have been in deep trouble. (5 figure bill mind you) This is a kind of trouble you don't want to have when you are travelling.

I got back home and called the bank and they told me - they can't help me to temp increase my limit and need to justify and need extra docs bla bla bla. I got upset coz I have been a good paymaster and use the card a lot. Next ... I pay for the whole thing and cancel the card.

The card was UOB. Not necessarily foreign bank will give good service.

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at least now the cash deposits are immediate unless it was made through another bank's ATM, which would take 2-3 days to appear on your account.
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The card was UOB. Not necessarily foreign bank will give good service after all.
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Really, UOB service is not good? I just received my preferred platinum CC but still not activated yet. Since the service is really bad then I should I cancel them?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2008, 11:52 AM)
Another cc that I would not want to touch with a ten foot pole would be AM's. Terrible experience.

1. Bought a big ticket item and reaches end of credit limit.
2. Immediately deposited the full CASH amount for the item into CC.
3. Called up to same evening to confirm CASH received. They told me I have full credit again.

Went on holiday next day. Card rejected everywhere and almost have to sleep on the street because hotel wouldn't accept. Called up AM and they say even though cash received, their system needed a few day to update so meanwhile....too bad....there is nothing they can do. Sleep on the street if you have to.
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That's not good experience and thanks for sharing this experience of yours. I only have 1 credit card and 1 debit card (both issued by Public Bank). I want to use the debit card... only if the credit card fail for some reason and if the merchant's machine is acting up. I realized now (after reading your post), that it's better to have a backup credit card. I think I'll drop by to CIMB or Citibank today to FD for another credit card.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:28 PM)
But the lesson taught me 1 thing. Never leave home with just 1 card or cards from the same bank. Nowadays, it's at least 2 cards from different bank and different operator (Visa and MC). Who knows, may be Visa computer could be down and MC running or vice versa?
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Yeap, encounter that before. Amex credit card down, Visa CC can swipe. sweat.gif Both CC from MBB.

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Really, UOB service is not good? I just received my preferred platinum CC but still not activated yet. Since the service is really bad then I should I cancel them?
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Since you already got your card then maybe you want to try it out first. Some folks here speak well about one bank but another may have a bad experience.

If you ask me, UOB not much priviledges and the current preferred platinum product has this no-preset limit thing. (Plus now some of the forummers reported that they charge RM50 for cancelling the card. I don't support this fee/bank since no other banks does.) If you realise this is more or less to offset their CL upgrade inflexibility problem.

It is entirely up to you actually whether you want to use it. Except for the bad experience related to my CL incident, they are quite OK. It is just that I travel quite a bit and I need flexibility on my credit limit. Oh yes, I always practice carrying 2 cards from different banks where ever I go. I think you should be well experienced yourself to decide which card suits you and which one don't.
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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 3 2008, 02:25 PM)
Since you already got your card then maybe you want to try it out first. Some folks here speak well about one bank but another may have a bad experience.

If you ask me, UOB not much priviledges and the current preferred platinum product has this no-preset limit thing. (Plus now some of the forummers reported that they charge RM50 for cancelling the card. I don't support this fee/bank since no other banks does.) If you realise this is more or less to offset their CL upgrade inflexibility problem. 

It is entirely up to you actually whether you want to use it. Except for the bad experience related to my CL incident, they are quite OK. It is just that I travel quite a bit and I need flexibility on my credit limit. Oh yes, I always practice carrying 2 cards from different banks where ever I go. I think you should be well experienced yourself to decide which card suits you and which one don't.
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To cancel card also need to pay. That is really bad. mad.gif

I think better I cancel it. Just pretend that I do not received the card & it lost during posting. haha
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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 3 2008, 01:07 PM)
Sorry to hear about your experience. I ran close into your problem before where the bank refuse to increase my CL temporarily. My CL nearly maxed out when I checked out and thank god I did not run out of it or I would have been in deep trouble. (5 figure bill mind you) This is a kind of trouble you don't want to have when you are travelling.

I got back home and called the bank and they told me - they can't help me to temp increase my limit and need to justify and need extra docs bla bla bla. I got upset coz I have been a good paymaster and use the card a lot. Next ... I pay for the whole thing and cancel the card.

The card was UOB. Not necessarily foreign bank will give good service.
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Your experience aren't as bad as mine with EON on similar issue.

EON wanted to give me Gold or Platinum (couldn't remember) and I instead insisted on a plain Classic with lowest possible limit of RM3K. Because I am using that card for mainly online purchases and that limits my liability to RM3K should fraud occurs.

One time, I needed to temporary increase the limit. EON asked for lots of documents and I complied and they came back with an increase of RM1K. I told them to f*#k off.

But I still have that card because it's a VISA and very easy to qualify free card. If I could find another VISA with similar condition, I will get rid of the EON.


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at least now the cash deposits are immediate unless it was made through another bank's ATM, which would take 2-3 days to appear on your account.
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My cash deposit was done at their OWN bank branch and over the counter. So no reason whatsoever for the delay in updating. Oh....they said it takes 7 days to update. When I complained like hell, they did it in about 2 days but then, the damage was done.

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Hi guys,
i'm planning to apply a gold credit card, anyone got any idea which card is better???
(i wan that card with maximum feature n minimum charges......^^)

thanx for ur opinion
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woohoo... just called up standardchartered, they said my batman card has just been approved.... woohoo my 2nd malaysia issued credit card after my closed to one year usage of hsbc malaysia credit card

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 3 2008, 10:23 AM)
wasn't Maybank giving 5% (10% on Tuesdays) at Carrefour? Even if you know what kind of cash back you want, you're most likely limited to one particular brand of supermarket to go to. Tesco also has a similar promotion but I don't know which cc is applicable for the cash back.
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why you dun know? website, internet is always there for you to explorer.

i got my 10% cash back, set off my CC account at the statement date. thumbup.gif

btw, what are you trying to express in your post?

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 3 2008, 10:12 PM)
why you dun know? website, internet is always there for you to explorer.

i got my 10% cash back, set off my CC account at the statement date.  thumbup.gif

btw, what are you trying to express in your post?
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I was just answering SkyBlue's question on which card give rebate on groceries. Lazy to surf all the supermarket websites just to answer his question. Just say what I know la...

your 10% cash back...got conditions rite? I think you should clarify the conditions. For example - minimum purchase, only on 'what day', which supermarket, etc
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i wanan apply sony maybankcard.. but i'm lazy to go branch fill in forms..

kenot like.. some agent call me.. then can get d? hahaha i have been using cimb credit card for 2 years d....
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Ok guys, just found out this excellent thread. Version 5 already. Congrats!

My situation is like this. I have a Maybank Visa Classic card which I use for everything and the limit now is RM8k. Currently have TnG Zing and several auto bills link to it.

I also have a CIMB classic card used since year 2000 limit RM10K and they offer me to upgrade to Gold card for limit RM14K a couple of months back. I use this as backup card for travel. Upgrade means I have to cancel the old classic card.

Now the situation is I want to apply Maybank Visa Gold card to same or higher limit as CIMB smile.gif

So what is the procedures? If anyone could give suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Can I keep the old card first, transfer all auto bills to new card and then only cancel.

p.s. Is the Maybank Sonycard any good since I also plan to buy LCD tv in near future.


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anyone Doing Citibank Credit Card.

i Want to apply AirAsia Citibank Card

AnyOne Can HElp? I WAnt The Free Troller Bag
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I just fill in form at the Air Asia website and yesterday someone call me and email me forms. Today someone from Citibank come to pickup my form. If can get same limit as my CIMB card then I would also keep this card for emergencies, else cancel. Also if very very lucky can win that trip to London smile.gif

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QUOTE(areankim @ Dec 4 2008, 10:19 AM)
i wanan apply sony maybankcard.. but i'm lazy to go branch fill in forms..

kenot like.. some agent call me.. then can get d? hahaha i have been using cimb credit card for 2 years d....
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Maybank agents are less aggresive as compared to their local foreign cc counterparts. The likely hood of them looking for you are less as they are more likely to operate out of shopping mall and events. (or wait for the annual Treats fair) You want the card quickly then pick up the phone, fill in the forms and send it to them.
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Anyone using Alliance-IKEA card? This is my situation. There have been 2 times already when they don't send me the bills for a month so the next month when arrived I will be charge a late fee and interest on the auto bills to this card. At least for CIMB they will call me up if they don't receive the payment for that particular month.

It seems that they are doing this sort of money game to get RM28 off me. What lousy tactics. It's not that much but having my card blocked for the autobill really pisses me off. Then AIA will charge some more high interest to my account.

I have been a loyal user and paymaster since the year 2000 and no problems before but this year this thing happen. To be fair the free cofee at IKEA is a nice gesture though. So what you guys think? Cancel or not... hehehe
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QUOTE(awaynoway @ Dec 1 2008, 12:29 AM)
Hello,
I'm new here in Lowyat forums.  I submitted my application to Public Bank last month and the credit card should be ready this week.  They require (actually most banks) RM5K only as minimum (or shall I say, initial) amount for FD (rate is 3.70% - 12 months)... as your pledge for a credit card.  I gave them RM10K for an FD and then PB staff said I'm eligible for Gold credit card.  I have read the agreement that they asked me sign.. I can renew the FD for 7 years. 

I phoned CIMB and Citibank the other day... to ask if they also offer credit card for any FD.  They said "yes". The requirement is the same as Public Bank -- minimum RM5K and copy of IC.

I'll see if PB's credit card is OK... if not, I might FD also at Citibank.

Update:  Just collected today (1st Dec) the PB visa gold credit and debit cards.  No PIN yet for the credit card but I think I can start using the credit card to get a new desktop biggrin.gif
BTW, I'm surprised that the credit card is valid for 2 years. I was expecting 1 year only since it's my first credit card  blush.gif
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QUOTE(gyver @ Dec 4 2008, 11:53 AM)
Anyone using Alliance-IKEA card? This is my situation. There have been 2 times already when they don't send me the bills for a month so the next month when arrived I will be charge a late fee and interest on the auto bills to this card. At least for CIMB they will call me up if they don't receive the payment for that particular month.

It seems that they are doing this sort of money game to get RM28 off me. What lousy tactics. It's not that much but having my card blocked for the autobill really pisses me off. Then AIA will charge some more high interest to my account.

I have been a loyal user and paymaster since the year 2000 and no problems before but this year this thing happen. To be fair the free cofee at IKEA is a nice gesture though. So what you guys think? Cancel or not... hehehe
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I think the blame is on Alliance bank. Ikea only provide the promotion...Alliance is supposed to send you the monthly statements rite? Only thing you can do is call them and make a complaint. But annoy them as well by paying on time, with or without the statements. Can you check the amount with ease? like online or nearby ATM?
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Dec 4 2008, 02:37 PM)
I think the blame is on Alliance bank. Ikea only provide the promotion...Alliance is supposed to send you the monthly statements rite? Only thing you can do is call them and make a complaint. But annoy them as well by paying on time, with or without the statements. Can you check the amount with ease? like online or nearby ATM?
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Not really. But now I will make a manual system to track my bills deadline (not wait for bills like last time) and I plan to pay on time every month with or without the statements. Thanks for your suggestion thumbup.gif

FYI last week when I went to Ikea and find out that my card was block, I pay using Maybank CC and collect points to Ikea card. This way I get 2 extra points collection - to Ikea friends and also to Treatpoints. I will try to do this next time also and see if it works and let you guys know about it.
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QUOTE(Prestigitation @ Dec 4 2008, 09:04 PM)
Most probably typo.
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QUOTE(Prestigitation @ Dec 4 2008, 09:04 PM)
QUOTE(gyver @ Dec 4 2008, 10:28 PM)
Most probably typo.
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No. It's not a typo. RM18000/pa is the minimum salary required to apply for Standard Chartered Bank Gold credit card.
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maybe for SCB Character Cc.
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morning everybody,

i would like to stop few of my credit card service, but i have no idea which one to keep or leave.

pls advice!!! notworthy.gif

1. HLB CC
2. Stanchart batman
3. Shell citi visa
4. MBF
5. HSBC

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I vote for Shell City Visa. Doesn't really have any use. HLB good? Don't see many people using them...
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post Dec 5 2008, 10:01 AM

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vote for MBF...need to pay every year. poor CS
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post Dec 5 2008, 10:49 AM

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Depends on which card's benefits you use the most?

Eg: if you are always getting petrol at Shell then it is better to keep Citi Shell card. Likewise for other cards, you gotta evaluate it. At least that's how I do it laugh.gif
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My mbb visa & master seem to be appear in my m2u , i guess its just been approved

i check my Visa & master seem to have rm5k limit on each of them

Is it a combine limit or seperate ?
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QUOTE(yitbunzai @ Dec 5 2008, 09:09 AM)
i would like to stop few of my credit card service, but i have no idea which one to keep or leave.

pls advice!!! notworthy.gif

1. HLB CC
2. Stanchart batman
3. Shell citi visa
4. MBF
5. HSBC
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I would say HLB, Shell Citi VISA and MBF.

MBF = Always will con people to pay for the annual fee.
Citi Shell = If you want to enjoy the rebate, best if you have debt with the bank. Forget it
HLB = Not the best cc around. Many others which are better than them. They lost a lot of customers when no more free parking @ 1Utama coz that's their best priviledge !

SCB Batman = Neutral. Card got no problems actually but you may want to cancel this card once your friends / business associate laugh (or lose face) @ you when they see the card.


Added on December 5, 2008, 11:22 am
QUOTE(Norns @ Dec 5 2008, 11:12 AM)
i check my Visa & master seem to have rm5k limit on each of them

Is it a combine limit or seperate ?
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Combined limit

This post has been edited by hye: Dec 5 2008, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(lil`pumpkinz @ Nov 9 2008, 01:06 PM)
do you all receive calls from the menara kad people asking for your card info and telling that they wana send you some sort of member cards recently?
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it is suggest you go to their company to clear about what actually they provide, nowsday a lots of scam...

QUOTE(kindaichi @ Nov 9 2008, 01:27 PM)
anyone knows roughly how long does it take to know if my citibank clear card has been approved or not? want to call them to ask abt the status....
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Approval takes 3-4 weeks if you apply through agent or online...
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QUOTE(yitbunzai @ Dec 5 2008, 09:09 AM)
morning everybody,

i would like to stop few of my credit card service, but i have no idea which one to keep or leave.

pls advice!!! notworthy.gif

1. HLB CC
2. Stanchart batman
3. Shell citi visa
4. MBF
5. HSBC

thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I would just cut all except HSBC. It has almost the best benefits among all cards in the markets now..
the CS somemore is very satisfying (up until now)
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QUOTE(yitbunzai @ Dec 5 2008, 09:09 AM)
morning everybody,

i would like to stop few of my credit card service, but i have no idea which one to keep or leave.

pls advice!!! notworthy.gif

1. HLB CC
2. Stanchart batman
3. Shell citi visa
4. MBF
5. HSBC

thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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All except HSBC, but if your monthly expenses can be more than RM3k, then you better keep your SCB, there is a contest now:

http://www.standardchartered.com.my/cb/cre...ndad/index.html
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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 3 2008, 08:33 AM)
I saw this too. Bear in mind that you don't get any points for your spendings. Comparatively,SCB has the same with their Platinum Business card (Unlimited 0.5% rebate for all transactions except petrol purchases, you get to accumulate points & 3X points for overseas purchases) The 5% cash rebate is interesting but I want to check it out whether this is a short time promo. (See the * in the advert ? It says Terms and Conditions apply) The website has no info on this 5% cash rebate yet.

Similarly Alliance Bank has a up to 1.5% tiered rebate for purchases but capped @ RM5K.
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Just call HSBC. The 5% cash rebate on the 5th purchase promotion is only until 31st March 2009.
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QUOTE(yitbunzai @ Dec 5 2008, 09:09 AM)
morning everybody,

i would like to stop few of my credit card service, but i have no idea which one to keep or leave.

pls advice!!! notworthy.gif

1. HLB CC
2. Stanchart batman
3. Shell citi visa
4. MBF
5. HSBC

thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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CANCEL "HLB", "StanChart Batman", "Shell Citi" and "MBF". KEEP "HSBC" and APPLY for "CIMB Mastercard". Lots of promotion year-round from CIMB.

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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 3 2008, 02:25 PM)
Since you already got your card then maybe you want to try it out first. Some folks here speak well about one bank but another may have a bad experience.

If you ask me, UOB not much priviledges and the current preferred platinum product has this no-preset limit thing. (Plus now some of the forummers reported that they charge RM50 for cancelling the card. I don't support this fee/bank since no other banks does.) If you realise this is more or less to offset their CL upgrade inflexibility problem. 

It is entirely up to you actually whether you want to use it. Except for the bad experience related to my CL incident, they are quite OK. It is just that I travel quite a bit and I need flexibility on my credit limit. Oh yes, I always practice carrying 2 cards from different banks where ever I go. I think you should be well experienced yourself to decide which card suits you and which one don't.
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I found this old reply by vin_ann saying that you can terminate the UOB cc without any charges but must return the cc to the bank

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 22 2008, 03:02 PM)
anyways, for procedures terminate UOB card, u can request them to e mail u cancellation form. filled in and fax back to them. while the physical card need to send to them by mail or pass to customer service at branch.

failure to return the card will be charge RM25.
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QUOTE(muscaa @ Dec 5 2008, 06:53 PM)
I found this old reply by vin_ann saying that you can terminate the UOB cc without any charges but must return the cc to the bank
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I told them that I never received the card as they only post by normal mail & I still not activate it. smile.gif So I do not need to return the card or pay the fee. smile.gif

Very bad bank. To cancel also very difficult.
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wanna ask how to apply for cimb da gold card???
wher can i apply it????
is it worth to apply it????

thanx for ur answer ^^
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QUOTE(muscaa @ Dec 5 2008, 06:53 PM)
I found this old reply by vin_ann saying that you can terminate the UOB cc without any charges but must return the cc to the bank
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haha. notworthy.gif

that's was my experience. the cancellation form states will charge RM25.

the result is i never return the ugly blue UOB Master CC to UOB. 1st i was faxed the cancellation in and going to send back the card, whose know after tht i got call from UOB and they offered me VOX master card.

after tht i din bother to send back.

Anyways, im going to cancel my UOB again. let's see this time how the reaction.

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 6 2008, 06:15 AM)
haha.  notworthy.gif

that's was my experience. the cancellation form states will charge RM25.

the result is i never return the ugly blue UOB Master CC to UOB. 1st i was faxed the cancellation in and going to send back the card, whose know after tht i got call from UOB and they offered me VOX master card.

after tht i din bother to send back.

Anyways, im going to cancel my UOB again. let's see this time how the reaction.
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Yeah... i'm going to cancel UOB cc too. I find that their cards are not attractive anymore. (Even though they allow rebate on the spot at BHP petrol station now)
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So only UOB charge for cancellation? How about others?
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So only UOB charge for cancellation? How about others?
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No other bank will charge you for cancellation. I've even cancelled a cc right after I got it via mail with no charges applied!
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Yeah... i'm going to cancel UOB cc too. I find that their cards are not attractive anymore. (Even though they allow rebate on the spot at BHP petrol station now)
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Dec 6 2008, 10:09 AM)
So only UOB charge for cancellation? How about others?
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the RM25 charge mention is charging for not returning the Card.

so the cancellation is FREE provided u return the card back to them in 2 pieces... biggrin.gif
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A new list of CIMB latest promotion for CIMB and DA Mastercard cardholders:

10% rebate + 10% to 20% of discounts at participating merchants:

The list is available at: http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/CIMB%20...bate_041208.pdf

Promotion period: 1 December 2008 to 30 April 2009.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 6 2008, 01:35 PM)
A new list of CIMB latest promotion for CIMB and DA Mastercard cardholders:

10% rebate + 10% to 20% of discounts at participating merchants:

The list is available at: http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/CIMB%20...bate_041208.pdf

Promotion period: 1 December 2008 to 30 April 2009.
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yep. i received their member priviledges and rewards mag couple of days ago..
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its hard ler .. need to time yr purchase properly.. like 1st fri 2nd fri.. one monday.. etc.. its supposed to be more convenient.. ending up need to pre-plan yr expenses.. want to buy also need to wait till tat particular fri or so.. thn whn it reaches thn.. forgot di..

i think its rather troublesome. want to buy jus buy.. get discount.. wouldnt tat be easier.. patut cimb can get so many merchants discounts.
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but the 1 u post is xtra discount..

mostly for west msia de.. sigh~

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yep. i received their member priviledges and rewards mag couple of days ago..
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CIMB or DA user? New cardholder?

I didn't receive anything yet. Let's see if it comes in the upcoming statement most probably next week.
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Dec 6 2008, 01:47 PM)
its hard ler .. need to time yr purchase properly.. like 1st fri 2nd fri.. one monday.. etc.. its supposed to be more convenient.. ending up need to pre-plan yr expenses.. want to buy also need to wait till tat particular fri or so.. thn whn it reaches thn.. forgot di..

i think its rather troublesome. want to buy jus buy.. get discount.. wouldnt tat be easier..  patut cimb can get so many merchants discounts.
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depends lor. 10 - 20% is alot sometime. so need to plan perfectly in order to enjoy the benefits..

bside some are for certain boutiques only..


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CIMB or DA user? New cardholder?

I didn't receive anything yet. Let's see if it comes in the upcoming statement most probably next week.
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new DA user...

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Dec 6 2008, 01:47 PM)
its hard ler .. need to time yr purchase properly.. like 1st fri 2nd fri.. one monday.. etc.. its supposed to be more convenient.. ending up need to pre-plan yr expenses.. want to buy also need to wait till tat particular fri or so.. thn whn it reaches thn.. forgot di..

i think its rather troublesome. want to buy jus buy.. get discount.. wouldnt tat be easier..  patut cimb can get so many merchants discounts.
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Well, I have to agree that it's a little inconvenent but this could promote smart consuming and personal budgeting.


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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 6 2008, 01:35 PM)
A new list of CIMB latest promotion for CIMB and DA Mastercard cardholders:

10% rebate + 10% to 20% of discounts at participating merchants:

The list is available at: http://www.directaccess.com.my/pdf/CIMB%20...bate_041208.pdf

Promotion period: 1 December 2008 to 30 April 2009.
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it's wont interest me so much.
if, im so happened, i need to buy the particular item and so happened im at particular merchants, i will just go for it. even with rebate o without rebate.

QUOTE(ruztynail @ Dec 6 2008, 01:47 PM)
its hard ler .. need to time yr purchase properly.. like 1st fri 2nd fri.. one monday.. etc.. its supposed to be more convenient.. ending up need to pre-plan yr expenses.. want to buy also need to wait till tat particular fri or so.. thn whn it reaches thn.. forgot di..

i think its rather troublesome. want to buy jus buy.. get discount.. wouldnt tat be easier..  patut cimb can get so many merchants discounts.
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yalo. you need to always to bring the leaflet with u all the time to remind of urself.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 6 2008, 02:15 PM)
it's wont interest me so much.
if, im so happened, i need to buy the particular item and so happened im at particular merchants, i will just go for it. even with rebate o without rebate.
yalo. you need to always to bring the leaflet with u all the time to remind of urself.
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haha you can set reminder in your mobile too biggrin.gif
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If I cancel a credit card from Citibank for example, Can I apply again any credit card from that bank a few years down the road?.

I heard someone says that if you cancel then you not eligible to apply any card again from that bank. Is it true?
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QUOTE(GHz @ Dec 6 2008, 08:38 PM)
If I cancel a credit card from Citibank for example, Can I apply again any credit card from that bank a few years down the road?.
I heard someone says that if you cancel then you not eligible to apply any card again from that bank. Is it true?
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Partially true. Some banks practice a temporary block out period for customers who cancels their card. This can varies from a few weeks to 6 months. But no, I do not know of any banks which permanently block you and if such permanent block exist means the person itself is blacklisted by all banks due to some reason. (Thanks to CCRIS, CTOS)
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QUOTE(hye @ Dec 6 2008, 09:03 PM)
Partially true. Some banks practice a temporary block out period for customers who cancels their card. This can varies from a few weeks to 6 months. But no, I do not know of any banks which permanently block you and if such permanent block exist means the person itself is blacklisted by all banks due to some reason. (Thanks to CCRIS, CTOS)
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If <1years temporary block than it is OK as I plan to cancel a couple of my CC. I holding too many now. Getting difficult to manage & my wallet getting heavier.

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