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post Mar 25 2007, 12:12 AM, updated 18y ago

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Due to the many many threads around asking bout how to lose their tummy or lose fat or is their diet fattening or whatever, post here. Please dont open a new thread. If every single person wants an individual thread to lose weight, we'll be filled with them. be considerate and use your brains.

Remember to include:

1) your age, current weight and height, and if possible BMI and fat%
2) your diet
3) how often you exercise and what do you do

posts lacking these info will be ignored.
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post Mar 25 2007, 01:16 AM

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got some question.. will the cold weather help or make it difficult to lose body fat? on the box of the cerial/food usully they put the amount of callorie like 150kcal, what the kcal mean? kilo callories or what?

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post Mar 25 2007, 01:23 AM

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Calorie is measured in kcal (kilocalories)

Cold weather, hot weather doesnt matter much in Malaysia. Just dont make it an excuse to not do ur cardio dues wink.gif




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post Mar 25 2007, 09:35 AM

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Take less calories than u normal intake....

u can see the results very fast


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QUOTE(aimleeds @ Mar 25 2007, 01:16 AM)
got some question.. will the cold weather help or make it difficult to lose body fat? on the box of the cerial/food usully they put the amount of callorie like 150kcal, what the kcal mean? kilo callories or what?
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Calorie (capital "C") = kcal = 1000 calories

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In non-scientific contexts the kilocalorie is often referred to as a Calorie (capital "C"), or just a calorie, and it has to be inferred from the context that the small calorie is not intended.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie

so, practically calories on the box usually refers to kcal.

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post Mar 25 2007, 01:27 PM

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1. To lose weight, you must cut calories

The low-fat/low-carbohydrate debate comes down to this: You still have to eat fewer calories than you burn if you want to lose weight. Every study I looked at shows this. The perfect weight-loss diet is the one you can live with, whether you cut fat, carbs, or some combination.

2. Use whey to cut waist

Protein-rich foods put more distance between hunger pangs. And the fuller you feel between meals, the easier it is to avoid binges.

The best food for appetite destruction: whey protein. A daily shake made with two scoops of whey protein, fruit (fresh or frozen berries or a banana), and water or crushed ice will improve your middle line. You can buy whey protein at any good health-food store.

3. Meat kills fat

When you eat, your body has to expend calories to digest the food. Protein causes this inner fire to burn the hottest, followed by carbohydrates, followed by fat. Animal proteins increase thermogenesis more than vegetable proteins, so the best calorie-burning foods are lean meats. So eat some protein at each meal--build your dinner around lean chicken, beef, or pork. That way, you're burning the most calories through digestion at the end of the day, when your metabolism is slower.

4. Remember these letters: BCAA

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein, and the branched-chain amino acids--leucine, isoleucine, and valine--are the best of the bunch. BCAAs are as close to magic foods as we'll ever get. They help you recover from hard workouts by reducing the protein breakdown within your muscles; they increase testosterone and growth hormone, your body's most important fat-fighting and muscle-building hormones; and they have their most profound effect when you're following law number 1 and cutting calories in order to lose weight.

For starters, try to get at least 10 grams (g) of BCAAs a day. Since they're most abundant in meat and dairy products, you can get the better part of that by following laws 2 and 3. (Two scoops of whey protein and 3 ounces of beef contains 10 g of BCAAs.)

You can also buy BCAA supplements (which, you should be aware, are expensive). Look for supplements that are 50 percent leucine, 25 percent isoleucine, and 25 percent valine. Start off with 10 g per day, and wait a month before bumping up the dose. The maximum useful intake is probably 60 g a day from food and supplements.

5. If it's fryin', you're dyin'

One thing that every weight-loss researcher and diet-plan author can agree on: Highly refined carbohydrates, such as fructose-sweetened beverages and low-fiber breads, are a terrible idea. Among the many sins of Mountain Dew and Twinkies is the way they cause your blood sugar to spike soon after eating. What goes up fast comes down fast, and you end up feeling tired and hungry much sooner than you should.

Goodbye diet, hello diabetes.



Now we know of a way to make refined carbohydrates even worse: Fry them. Researchers have found a suspected carcinogen called acrylamide in such products as potato chips and french fries.

A "suspected" carcinogen isn't the same as a proven carcinogen, such as tobacco smoke. But anytime I get a chance to talk you out of eating worthless snack foods, I do it.

6. Food goes farther with fiber

Fiber's effect is the opposite of snack foods'. When you have fiber in your stomach, food takes longer to enter the bloodstream, and your blood-sugar level stays steady.

The benefits: You'll have a more consistent energy supply and less between-meal hunger. The only potential downside is that you won't get as much reading done in the bathroom. What slows down your blood sugar at the front end speeds things up at the back end. I could give you the usual riff about eating more broccoli and raisin bran, but you can safely and easily take in more fiber by using a supplement. (MD Labs' Fiber-Psyll is a good one; go to MDlabs.com.) Start with 7 to 12 g a day, mixing some with water and drinking it before your main meals.

7. Count on calcium

Recently, nutrition researchers discovered that dairy and other calcium-rich foods help you stay lean, prevent osteoporosis, and possibly prevent colon cancer. The recommendation is to take in 1,000 to 1,200 milligrams (mg) of calcium a day. (A cup of milk contains 300.) Unfortunately, too much calcium may increase the risk of prostate cancer. The tragic number seems to be 600 mg a day from dairy products. And what's the point of having a V-shaped torso if your prostate has a spare tire? Here's how to reap the benefits of calcium without the risks:

Avoid taking high-dose calcium supplements unless you really need them (under doctor's orders, or if you never eat foods naturally rich in calcium). The fat -fighting properties of calcium are activated only if you obtain it from real food.
Look for low-fat dairy products fortified with vitamin D, such as fat-free milk and yogurt. Vitamin D offers prostate protection.
Triple your home-gland security by occasionally eating a tomato salad (rich in prostate-protecting lycopene), mozzarella cheese (rich in calcium), and olive oil (which contains a cancer-fighting fat called beta-sitosterol).
8. Alpha males use omega-3 fats

Each year, we learn more about the health benefits of omega-3 polyunsaturated fats, which are found in fish, nuts, seeds, and flaxseed and fish oils. (And also in the cool, orange-flavored supplement Coromega, available at iherb.com.)

These health benefits--less risk of heart disease and diabetes, for example--are great on their own. But omega-3 fats contribute to a better physique as well. For example, omega-3s reduce inflammation throughout your body. That not only prevents heart attacks (inflammation in the tissues surrounding blood vessels is a major cause) but also helps your muscles recover faster from workouts.

Bigger, less-inflamed muscles mean a faster metabolism, and speeding up your metabolism is crucial when you're trying to get lean. If you don't eat fish twice a week and can't stomach fish-oil supplements, try eggs high in omega-3s, which are found in the dairy case, next to the regular eggs. You can eat four of them a day without any negative effect on your cholesterol levels.

9. Make a plan Next time you read a weight-loss story in a newspaper or magazine, count the number of disparaging references to popular diets. Based on the way diet gurus trash their competitors, you'd think there was no plan on earth that actually works. But the truth is that you can't lose weight without a diet.

You must have a plan. The more sophisticated it is, and the more tailored to your likes and dislikes, the better. You can't wing it and expect to see results. I won't offer you the perfect weight-loss regimen, because research has yet to discover one. But even the worst plan is more likely to succeed than no plan at all.

The best plan is likely to include these elements:

Meals and snacks are based on some lean protein source--fish, eggs, dairy, meat.
More meals are better than fewer. Five or six meals and snacks a day is ideal.
Low-fat and high-fat diets can both work, but one that cuts almost all fat is doomed.
Nobody ever became obese from eating the best carbohydrates--fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. And nobody ever died from skipping potatoes, pasta, rice, popcorn, and Wonder Bread.


Added on March 25, 2007, 1:28 pmArgh....do this and see RESULTS FAST !!!

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post Mar 26 2007, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Dec 19 2006, 09:35 AM)
I suggest varying cardio every session... say jog one day, stepper one day and cycle one day instead of doing everything in one go. Cause if you need to lose weight then need to maintain 60% of max HR. So if you jump from one machine to another it's pretty hard to maintain the HR no?

But do whatever you enjoy doing @ the gym first. Else monotony will kill ya spirit too biggrin.gif
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what is it mean by need to maintain 60% of max heart rate on the treadmill? and how do we know our maximum heart rate?
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post Mar 26 2007, 07:42 PM

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there's a heart rate detector on the bar to put your hands on it
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post Mar 26 2007, 07:57 PM

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yerp, and how do i know my maximum HR?
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theres a list there, ur age and your max HR
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post Mar 26 2007, 08:07 PM

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owh ok.. then which one is better, to maintain higher or lower than 60% of max HR if i cant maintain it.??
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just maintain around 60% more or less wont hurt
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:13 AM

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wat bout peanuts? good idea for weight loss?haha.
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:52 AM

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hey man ....there's damn many contradiction around cardio fields...shit !!!

MAX OT CARDIO

DONT DO CARDIO AFTER YOUR WORKOUT.....wtf !!!

wateva...


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post Apr 22 2007, 12:35 PM

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"By their fruits they shall be known". Try and do whatever that gives you results.
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ok, here it goes...some comment on it,
1. age=23, height=181cm, weight=80kg, bmi is 24.4
2. diet ah....just breakfast....sandwich and teh , lunch is just those mix rice, and cheong fun, dinner is home cook....but mostly is meat, egg and some vege, sometime will eat supper since cannot tahan, will buy some bread and add tuna.....
3. i only play some sport when i have time, few times a week....
any comment?
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Say no to rice.God did not make rice!.The devil did!...LOL

JK.But seriously if you feel like you need to load up on carbs jsut eat wholemeal bread.It's full of fibre so you wont get hungry quicly and because it has yeast in it, it will expand further in your stomach.Whats more!.It burns faster than rice cuz it's not as startchy.In direct translation, it has a lower GI(Glycemic Index).
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so, bout the tuna? is it good to add in as part of my diet?
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Err...what are you trying to achieve actually? Don't bother about BMI.
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tuna is awesome man...fish protein has very little fat and tons of omega-3 oils...
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but the tuna can that selling in the market mostly are with mayonaise added

mayonaise is fattening, isn't?


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post Apr 23 2007, 01:02 PM

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wanna lose fat, post here??

ok, i posted.... when can i start seeing results? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:57 PM)
but the tuna can that selling in the market mostly are with mayonaise added

mayonaise is fattening, isn't?
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Dun get the tuna with mayonaisse la. buy the one which is canned in water. biggrin.gif

I was also told that tuna has high mercury content. so its not to be consumed everyday. perhaps 1-2 times/week? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 23 2007, 12:57 PM)
but the tuna can that selling in the market mostly are with mayonaise added

mayonaise is fattening, isn't?
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Mayo is loaded in calories. Get the tuna in water. But i don't think you'll like the taste of it alone. It's for hardcore bb'ers. It tasted disgusting when i have to take a bite, swirl with water in my mouth and swallow, repeat. It's like trying to eat sewage.
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damit, i've been eating mayo tuna. doh.gif
just the tuna-in-water thought already makes my stomach turn upside down.
btw, what brands are there?
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:41 PM)
damit, i've been eating mayo tuna.  doh.gif
just the tuna-in-water thought already makes my stomach turn upside down.
btw, what brands are there?
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Good for you. Way to go for fat loss.

And go look at the mart. Don't be such a lazy bum and post senseless questions in here.
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there's those expensive salmon/mackerel steaks
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post Apr 23 2007, 01:51 PM

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1.Avoid eating 4 hours prior to bed unless its protein or vegetables,fruits.
2.Lifting weights is the easiest way to loss weight. More muscle the more you burn.
3.Drink lots of water 8 at least more if you can but not too much unless you want to poison yourself. Its the best detoxification.Try to avoid sugar unless its necessary, sugar=energy.
4.Do a lot of cardiovascular.
5.Lessen your carbo intake and upper your protein intake, but dont strain yourself, you need the carbo for energy.
6.Lessen the oily food,fried,junk foods.
7.Try to sleep early and wake up for a jog with an empty stomache.
8.I would like to emphasize on diet and sleeping habits mainly, shitty diet=no improvement, less sleep=wont get you motivated.

There are ways to lose fat very very fast that i learned from my silat master,but its a very dangerous technique and only used before tournament to match the weight category tongue.gif .
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
There are ways to lose fat very very fast that i learned from my silat master,but its a very dangerous technique and only used before tournament to match the weight category tongue.gif .
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u talking bout dropping water weight in the sauna?
everyone knows that already LOL.

p.s: zomg.... malayneum is here shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
1.Avoid eating 4 hours prior to bed unless its protein or vegetables,fruits.
2.Lifting weights is the easiest way to loss weight. More muscle the more you burn.
3.Drink lots of water 8 at least more if you can but not too much unless you want to poison yourself. Its the best detoxification.Try to avoid sugar unless its necessary, sugar=energy.
4.Do a lot of cardiovascular.
5.Lessen your carbo intake and upper your protein intake, but dont strain yourself, you need the carbo for energy.
6.Lessen the oily food,fried,junk foods.
7.Try to sleep early and wake up for a jog with an empty stomache.
8.I would like to emphasize on diet and sleeping habits mainly, shitty diet=no improvement, less sleep=wont get you motivated.

There are ways to lose fat very very fast that i learned from my silat master,but its a very dangerous technique and only used before tournament to match the weight category tongue.gif .
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one question here,

which one is better to lose weight, lift 20 kg with 12 reps or 12 kg with 16 reps?
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post Apr 23 2007, 07:00 PM

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LOL...

OMG , MALAYNUEM IS HERE???

PHUCKED...

GO BCK UR REMPIT KOPITIAM ...haha
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
1.Avoid eating 4 hours prior to bed unless its protein or vegetables,fruits.
2.Lifting weights is the easiest way to loss weight. More muscle the more you burn.
3.Drink lots of water 8 at least more if you can but not too much unless you want to poison yourself. Its the best detoxification.Try to avoid sugar unless its necessary, sugar=energy.
4.Do a lot of cardiovascular.
5.Lessen your carbo intake and upper your protein intake, but dont strain yourself, you need the carbo for energy.
6.Lessen the oily food,fried,junk foods.
7.Try to sleep early and wake up for a jog with an empty stomache.
8.I would like to emphasize on diet and sleeping habits mainly, shitty diet=no improvement, less sleep=wont get you motivated.

There are ways to lose fat very very fast that i learned from my silat master,but its a very dangerous technique and only used before tournament to match the weight category tongue.gif .
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While i may not agree with everything in here, surprisingly i'm rather impressed. Pretty sensible advice.

QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 23 2007, 07:00 PM)
LOL...

OMG , MALAYNUEM IS HERE???

PHUCKED...

GO BCK UR REMPIT KOPITIAM ...haha
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OMG. CANOPIES IS HERE???

PHUUUUUUUUCKED...

GO BACK TO NOOBLAND AND READ MORE BEFORE POSTING NOOB QUESTIONS... haha

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 23 2007, 07:12 PM)
While i may not agree with everything in here, surprisingly i'm rather impressed. Pretty sensible advice.
OMG. CANOPIES IS HERE???

PHUUUUUUUUCKED...

GO BACK TO NOOBLAND AND READ MORE BEFORE POSTING NOOB QUESTIONS... haha
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u will never know how much i study and research on it

just gv me some time , one day u will know


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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
1.Avoid eating 4 hours prior to bed unless its protein or vegetables,fruits.
2.Lifting weights is the easiest way to loss weight. More muscle the more you burn.
3.Drink lots of water 8 at least more if you can but not too much unless you want to poison yourself. Its the best detoxification.Try to avoid sugar unless its necessary, sugar=energy.
4.Do a lot of cardiovascular.
5.Lessen your carbo intake and upper your protein intake, but dont strain yourself, you need the carbo for energy.
6.Lessen the oily food,fried,junk foods.
7.Try to sleep early and wake up for a jog with an empty stomache.
8.I would like to emphasize on diet and sleeping habits mainly, shitty diet=no improvement, less sleep=wont get you motivated.

There are ways to lose fat very very fast that i learned from my silat master,but its a very dangerous technique and only used before tournament to match the weight category tongue.gif .
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zomg...you're actually civil and polite....is this another dimension?

but really, its nice that you're no longer doing the malaysian impersonation of cartman biggrin.gif

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post Apr 23 2007, 08:56 PM

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LOlx...he changed his display , gender and siggy ....


Added on April 23, 2007, 8:56 pmto the holy one , amen

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 23 2007, 08:56 PM)
LOlx...he changed his display , gender and siggy ....


Added on April 23, 2007, 8:56 pmto the holy one , amen
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 23 2007, 07:12 PM)
OMG. CANOPIES IS HERE???

PHUUUUUUUUCKED...

GO BACK TO NOOBLAND AND READ MORE BEFORE POSTING NOOB QUESTIONS... haha
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Yeah lar...same size...lolx...bigger 1 got?
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Apr 23 2007, 10:33 PM)
Yeah lar...same size...lolx...bigger 1 got?
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 22 2007, 10:32 PM)
Err...what are you trying to achieve actually? Don't bother about BMI.
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not bother bout the bmi thing, just wan get back in shape....or maybe i should say in cut the fat...

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Mar 25 2007, 12:12 AM)
Due to the many many threads around asking bout how to lose their tummy or lose fat or is their diet fattening or whatever, post here. Please dont open a new thread. If every single person wants an individual thread to lose weight, we'll be filled with them. be considerate and use your brains.

Remember to include:

1) your age, current weight and height, and if possible BMI and fat%
2) your diet
3) how often you exercise and what do you do

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Me a big bone dude.
Target weight = 65kg.

1) Age = 31, Weight = 72kg, Height = 170cm, BMI = 24.9

http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm

2) 3/4 of rice on normal plate twice a day (lunch and dinner at 6.00pm)
Wash fried foods like chicken etc. as well as threw the skins away.

3) 3 times a week (four if obsessed tongue.gif ) jogging for 30 minutes. Drank 100 Plus.

There you go.
How can you help me?

I know that eating less can achieve good weight.
But when hungry...what to do?
Stomach making hungry sounds.

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 24 2007, 07:55 AM)
But when hungry...what to do?
Stomach making hungry sounds.
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if it's at night, go sleep straight, but remember not starve yourself.

sometimes when I eat the same amount of food, the same exercise, but i feel more hungry, so I just ignore it cuz i know I eat enough for my body nod.gif

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u noe, when u eat tuna...u can close your nose, chomp real quick and gargle down with a milky protein shake.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 24 2007, 10:55 AM)
u noe, when u eat tuna...u can close your nose, chomp real quick and gargle down with a milky protein shake.
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That's disgusting! I once blended my tuna with chocolate milk. I will NEVER do so again. Here's a tip. Squeeze out all the water from the tuna, put in bowl, add a dash of 'ikan bilis' powder and mix it up. It doesn't taste too bad after that.
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Here's a tip. Squeeze out all the water from the tuna, put in bowl,
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ikan bilis powder?
wtf is that? the knor's granules ah?? LOL
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ikan bilis powder?
wtf is that? the knor's granules ah?? LOL
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Something like that if i think i knwo what you're talking about. Break off a bit and sprinkle over the tuna.
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Just like how you avoid eggs, I'm gonna avoid tuna like its teh plague
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 24 2007, 12:40 PM)
Just like how you avoid eggs, I'm gonna avoid tuna like its teh plague
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It's good lean protein, even though it tastes like sewage.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 24 2007, 12:46 PM)
It's good lean protein, even though it tastes like sewage.
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Tuna aint that bad, I have no problem eating it
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I have a friend that fries his tuna with egg on a non stick pan with no oil. tastes not bad actually (he gave me some to eat tongue.gif ). beats putting in mayonaise.

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Tuna...good with bread.
No high cholesterole or fat?


Added on April 24, 2007, 2:29 pmTuna...good with bread.
No high cholesterole/fat?

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Try dried tuna,salad and a high fiber bread to go with as lunch, youll be amazed of the results within just 2 weeks.

Tip of the day for weightloss:-

Exercise in cold places, this is because when your body heats up it tends to regulates and works twice as much in a cold place.

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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 24 2007, 01:15 PM)
Tuna aint that bad, I have no problem eating it
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actually, i like its taste drool.gif


QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 24 2007, 03:31 PM)
Try dried tuna,salad and a high fiber bread to go with as lunch, youll be amazed of the results within just 2 weeks.

Tip of the day for weightloss:-

Exercise in cold places, this is because when your body heats up it tends to regulates and works twice as much in a cold place.

Malayneum.
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this is the real malayneum or imposer hmm.gif

it seems that his gender tag and avatar was changed to male & nothing.

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Apr 24 2007, 03:31 PM)
Try dried tuna,salad and a high fiber bread to go with as lunch, youll be amazed of the results within just 2 weeks.

Tip of the day for weightloss:-

Exercise in cold places, this is because when your body heats up it tends to regulates and works twice as much in a cold place.

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i've been taking tuna and eggs as breakfast for the past 2 month. i'm getting so bloody sick of it doh.gif
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Tuna is good, and it's one of the cheapest source of protein around.
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can any one tell me the different betwen 2 persons equal weight and equal height but one is fat, one is medium?
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can any one tell me the different betwen 2 persons equal weight and equal height but one is fat, one is medium?
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Bone mass... Meaning the other has a heavier bone structure.

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can any one tell me the different betwen 2 persons equal weight and equal height but one is fat, one is medium?
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besides factor of bone structure & density, muscle is much heavier than fat.
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one question here,

which one is better to lose weight, lift 20 kg with 12 reps or 12 kg with 16 reps?

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that's not much of a difference there, my fren.
If u can rep up to 12, then it's too light for you.

since u're asking which is better for fat loss, i'd say high reps.
but please, if u wanna compare, take a 5 rep one with a 15-20 rep as example.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 08:52 AM)
that's not much of a difference there, my fren.
If u can rep up to 12, then it's too light for you.

since u're asking which is better for fat loss, i'd say high reps.
but please, if u wanna compare, take a 5 rep one with a 15-20 rep as example.
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its a myth. havent you learnt anything?
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what?
high reps trains ur endurance, hence burn more fat.
low reps is for size + strength.

why did i even bother lowering my deads and squats to 5 reps
if it's the same thing?
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:13 AM)
what?
high reps trains ur endurance, hence burn more fat.
low reps is for size + strength.


why did i even bother lowering my deads and squats to 5 reps
if it's the same thing?
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i use to do 10 all the time...
but i remember u telling me everyone is different.
Some are better at lows, others a bit higher.

but eversince i started doing 5s, i feel stronger.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:26 AM)
i use to do 10 all the time...
but i remember u telling me everyone is different.
Some are better at lows, others a bit higher.

but eversince i started doing 5s, i feel stronger.
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I'm talking about you saying high reps is for burning fat and low reps for size. It's a myth. It's individual muscle fibre composition theory (high twitch or low twitch make-up).
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:31 AM)
I'm talking about you saying high reps is for burning fat and low reps for size. It's a myth. It's individual muscle fibre composition theory (high twitch or low twitch make-up).
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:34 AM)
ok... you learn something everyday  rolleyes.gif
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Sigh... if you keep up with the smart ass attitude with that emote at the end, good luck in wanting to grow when experienced people try giving you advice. I will tell you that muscle mass and free enuf would tell you the same thing that it's a myth about the high/low rep thingie.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:44 AM)
Sigh... if you keep up with the smart ass attitude with that emote at the end, good luck in wanting to grow when experienced people try giving you advice. I will tell you that muscle mass and free enuf would tell you the same thing that it's a myth about the high/low rep thingie.
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not being a smartass...
i admit i didn't know it was a myth.
Some senior at my gym told me that.
But i rather believe you than believing him.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:49 AM)
not being a smartass...
i admit i didn't know it was a myth.
Some senior at my gym told me that.
But i rather believe you than believing him.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:49 AM)
not being a smartass...
i admit i didn't know it was a myth.
Some senior at my gym told me that.
But i rather believe you than believing him.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 09:51 AM)
I'm not trying to screw you over. I'm trying to help you improve, hence the harsh criticism in your journal. You know the way i talk, if you meet me, that'll be how i talk in real life too. My personality is the same on the net as in real life, but i mean well. Ask Joey Kun if you think i'm lying. He's met me before since he's an actual friend of mine.
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if you want cajoling and being treated like a baby, go to a PT.

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Apr 25 2007, 10:03 AM)
if you wanna get big, go to darklight

if you want cajoling and being treated like a baby, go to a PT.

darklight>PT
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You give me far too much credit my friend.

Well, there are PT's which know their stuff but they're such a minority that looking for an elite one is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

I've been to TF, CF, FF, etc, and none of the trainers actually measure up, except maybe one or two i've seen.
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talking about high reps & low weight, i m doing very high reps and light weight exercise on non-workout day (mainly for active recovery).

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Use Active Recovery!

When embarking on a new training program that forces you to perform a frequency greater than your nervous system is accustomed to, active recovery sessions are a godsend. These sessions consist of an extremely light load (~25-50% of 1RM) in order to increase blood flow perfusion and nutrient transfer. This performs like a champ to help lagging muscle groups recover between workouts and induce sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

Chad Waterbury
other benefits:
size increase with sarcoplasmic hypertrophy
reduced muscle soreness
better muscle endurance


more details

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m160...21/ai_n13667732

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QUOTE(T+1 @ Apr 25 2007, 10:35 AM)
talking about high reps & low weight, i m doing very high reps and light weight exercise on non-workout day (mainly for active recovery).
other benefits:
size increase with sarcoplasmic hypertrophy
reduced muscle soreness
better muscle endurance
more details

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m160...21/ai_n13667732
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T+1, you're pretty ripped yourself. Workout everyday? sweat.gif


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one question here,

which one is better to lose weight, lift 20 kg with 12 reps or 12 kg with 16 reps?
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Performing lighter weight with more repetitions (15-20 reps, 20-30 reps, or 20-50 reps) does not burn more fat or tone (simultaneous decrease of fat and increase muscle) better than a heaver weight with moderate repetitions (8-12 reps). Weight training utilizes carbohydrates after the initial ATP and CP stores have been exhausted after the first few seconds of intense muscular contraction. Typically a set's duration is 20 to 30 seconds. For the average fit person, it requires 20 to 30 minutes of continuous aerobic activity with large muscle groups (eg. Gluteus Maximus and Quadriceps) to burn even 50% fat; fat requires oxygen to burn. Performing a few extra repetitions on a weight training exercise is not significant enough to burn extra fat and may in effect burn less fat. If intensity is compromised, less fat may be burned when light weight is used with high repetitions. The burning sensation associated with high repetition training seems to be the primary deterrent for achieving higher intensities.

For individuals attempting to achieve fat loss for aesthetics, the intensity of weight training can be a double edge sword. When beginning an exercise program, muscle mass increases may out pace fat losses, resulting in a small initial weight gain. Significant fat loss requires a certain intensity, duration, and frequency that novice exercisers may not be able to achieve until they develop greater tolerance to exercise. If an exercise and nutrition program is not adequate for significant fat loss, a lighter weight with higher repetitions may be recommended to minimize any bulking effects, although less fat may be utilized hours later. If an aerobic exercise and nutrition program is sufficient enough to lose fat, a moderate repetition range with a progressively heavier weight will accelerate fat loss with a toning effect. If a muscle group ever out paces fat loss, the bulking effect is only temporary. For a toning effect, fat can be lost later when aerobic exercise can be significantly increased or the weight training exercise(s) for that particular muscle can be ceased altogether. The muscle will atrophy to a pre-exercise girth within months. Higher repetitions training may be later implemented and assessed.

Higher volume weight training (ie 3 sets versus 1 set of each exercise) with short rest periods of approximately 1 minutes can stimulate a greater acute growth hormone realease (Kraemer 1991, 1993; Mulligan 1996). Growth hormone is lipolytic in adults. It is hypothesized that maximal effort is necessary for optimizing exercise induced secretion of growth hormone. Growth hormone release is related to the magnitude of exertion (Pyka 1992) and is attenuated with greater lactic acidosis (Gordon 1994).

Intense weight training utilizing multiple large muscles with longer rest between sets may also accentuate body lipid deficit by increasing post training epinephrine. Intramuscular triacylgycerol it thought to be an important energy substrate following repeated 30 second maximal exercise with 4 minute recovery intervals (McCartney 1996, Tremblay 1994). Rest periods lasting approximately 4 minutes between maximal exercise exercise of very short duration is required for almost complete creatine phosphate recovery required for repeated maximal bouts (McCartney 1986).

It still may be recommended to perform high repetitions (eg 20-30) for abdominal and oblique training. It has been theorized muscular endurance may be more benifitial for low back health than muscular strength. Furthermore, moderate repetitions with a greater resistance can increase muscular girth under the subcutaneous fat, particularly in men, who have greater potiential for muscular hypertrophy. Increasing the thickness around the waist with existing abdominal fat may further increase bulk, particularly in men who typically have greater intra-abdominal and subcutanuous fat in this area. The abdominal muscularture is composed of relatively small musclemass as compared to the glutes, quadriceps, hamstrings, chest, and upper back. Performing high reps with a lighter resistance should not compromise metabolism or muscle increases as would performing high reps with light resistance on larger muscle groups. See Spot Reduction Myth above.

It is plausible that the high repetition myth was originated and later propagated by bodybuilders that used calorie restrictive diets to shed fat before a contest. Because of their weakened state from dieting, they were unable to use their usual heavier weights. When inquired about their use of lighter weights, they explained they were "cutting up" for a contest. This is merely a theory, but it is easy to see how it may have been misunderstood that the lighter weight was used to reduce fat instead of actually being a result of their dietary regime.

Typically with weight training alone, fat loss is similar to muscle gain, give or take a few pounds. Certain dietary modification can have much greater impact on fat loss than weight training alone. The ideal program for fat loss would include the combination of proper diet, weight training, and cardio exercise.


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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Apr 25 2007, 11:17 AM)
too bad I dont go to the gym every single day
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Apr 25 2007, 11:19 AM)
T+1, you're pretty ripped yourself. Workout everyday? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 11:27 AM)
It is plausible that the high repetition myth was originated and later propagated by bodybuilders that used calorie restrictive diets to shed fat before a contest. Because of their weakened state from dieting, they were unable to use their usual heavier weights. When inquired about their use of lighter weights, they explained they were "cutting up" for a contest. This is merely a theory, but it is easy to see how it may have been misunderstood that the lighter weight was used to reduce fat instead of actually being a result of their dietary regime.

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QUOTE(T+1 @ Apr 25 2007, 11:30 AM)
good explanation for the myth  laugh.gif
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can we trust 100% the source? icon_idea.gif
i prefer high weight with moderate reps icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 24 2007, 10:53 PM)
Bone mass... Meaning the other has a heavier bone structure.
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QUOTE(T+1 @ Apr 25 2007, 12:27 AM)
besides factor of bone structure & density, muscle is much heavier than fat.
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what is volume difference between 1 kg of fat & 1 kg of muscle?
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QUOTE(biebie @ Apr 25 2007, 02:16 PM)
what is volume difference between 1 kg of fat & 1 kg of muscle?
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1kg of muscle = less mass || hard to be seen but you will be heavier

1kg of fat = more mass || easy to be seen but you wont be THAT heavy
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fat 1 : 2 muscle.

muscle is 2 times heavier than fat. around there la.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 25 2007, 03:05 PM)
fat 1 : 2 muscle.

muscle is 2 times heavier than fat. around there la.
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 11:59 AM)
can we trust 100% the source? icon_idea.gif
i prefer high weight with moderate reps icon_rolleyes.gif
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You prefer... Any scientific explanation to back it up? This is the whole situation with 90% of the people in the gym... They go around doing things that they FEEL/THINK is appropriate instead of things that are proven to work.

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fat 1 : 2 muscle.

muscle is 2 times heavier than fat. around there la.

hmm.... therefore my thinking of losing fat not weight is some sort correct i think.

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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 03:43 PM)
You prefer... Any scientific explanation to back it up? This is the whole situation with 90% of the people in the gym... They go around doing things that they FEEL/THINK is appropriate instead of things that are proven to work.
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At least I think with high weight moderate reps didn't harm me. Or else you know anything cons of it?
So what you doing now? I meant low weight high reps or high weight low reps. and do you got any scientific explanation to back it up? so I can follow. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:07 PM)
At least I think with high weight moderate reps didn't harm me. Or else you know anything cons of it?
So what you doing now? I meant low weight high reps or high weight low reps. and do you got any scientific explanation to back it up? so I can follow. rclxms.gif
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You prefer, but does it work for you? Some people grow more on high reps and some explode in growth on low reps. It depends on the composition of high or low twitch muscle fibres in an individual or a bodypart. This is something you must experiment by yourself.

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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:07 PM)
At least I think with high weight moderate reps didn't harm me. Or else you know anything cons of it?
So what you doing now? I meant low weight high reps or high weight low reps. and do you got any scientific explanation to back it up? so I can follow. rclxms.gif
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You want scientific proof? Just read all the topics that have been pinned up.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 04:10 PM)
You prefer, but does it work for you? Some people grow more on high reps and some explode in growth on low reps. It depends on the composition of high or low twitch muscle fibres in an individual or a bodypart. This is something you must experiment by yourself.
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ok, thanks, really appreciate it.

QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 04:11 PM)
You want scientific proof? Just read all the topics that have been pinned up.
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no, I just want to know you do
1)light weight high rep OR
2)heavy weight low rep
and I want to know why do you choose cuz just now you just asked me and i can't give you a scientific explanation to my choice so I wanna know izzit your choice got good scientific explnation back up.
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:15 PM)
ok, thanks, really appreciate it.
no, I just want to know you do
1)light weight high rep    OR
2)heavy weight low rep
and I want to know why do you choose cuz just now you just asked me and i can't give you a scientific explanation to my choice so I wanna know izzit your choice got good scientific explnation back up.
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Yes, my choice has been proven by scientific backup in the topics which haven been pinned up. I am using heavy weights low reps.

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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 04:17 PM)
Yes, my choice has been proven by scientific backup in the topics which haven been pinned up. I am using heavy weights low reps.
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Oh, so heavy weights low reps is good proven by scientific backup. But why Darklight keep say that it's myth and it doesn't work for everyone.
What I'm going to say is, If it's scientific proven, It should work for every people.
Thanks for enlighten me up, I'm not flaming to anyone but just asking question. sweat.gif Don't use negative word + flame me if possible doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:15 PM)
no, I just want to know you do
1)light weight high rep    OR
2)heavy weight low rep
and I want to know why do you choose cuz just now you just asked me and i can't give you a scientific explanation to my choice so I wanna know izzit your choice got good scientific explnation back up.
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Everyone is different Kelvin. Look at the pros train, look at their videos. Some have a very fast cadence in their reps, some go really slow for maximum contraction. Some go high reps, some go low reps, etc. You may be wondering where the hell am i going with this. Moral of the story, EVERYONE is different. This is why we have so many programs like Max OT (low reps, compound orientated), HST (high reps, high frequency), 5 x 5, HVT, etc, etc.

Then there's periodization, deloading phase, etc. Plus, you cannot grow indefinitely on just one program. No matter how effective the 5 x 5 program is, changes have to be made. Your body adapts. Change makes it grow, but of course i ain't saying you should bunny hop between programs like you change your underwear.

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Oh, so heavy weights low reps is good proven by scientific backup. But why Darklight keep say that it's myth and it doesn't work for everyone.
What I'm going to say is, If it's scientific proven, It should work for every people.
Thanks for enlighten me up, I'm not flaming to anyone but just asking question. sweat.gif Don't use negative word + flame me if possible doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:22 PM)
Oh, so heavy weights low reps is good proven by scientific backup. But why Darklight keep say that it's myth and it doesn't work for everyone.
What I'm going to say is, If it's scientific proven, It should work for every people.
Thanks for enlighten me up, I'm not flaming to anyone but just asking question. sweat.gif Don't use negative word + flame me if possible doh.gif
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You misunderstand me again! I said it is a myth in context of high reps for cutting and low reps for size.
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You misunderstand me again! I said it is a myth in context of high reps for cutting and low reps for size.
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Well, what about HST training program? its a myth also?

Its specific on reps also rite?

they have high reps with lighter weight day and mainly purpose for cut and conditioning...
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Well, what about HST training program? its a myth also?

Its specific on reps also rite?

they have high reps with lighter weight day and mainly purpose for cut and conditioning...
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It's not a myth, it's proven to work, just that not everybody will respond in the exact same way. For example, if you and I were to embark on HST, it doesn't mean that if I were to gain 10 pounds of muscle, you will gain 10 pounds as well, maybe you will gain a little lesser, maybe a little more. But that doesn't mean that HST does not work right?

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Eh...u guys so fast reply...I saw the answer from darklight post above edi
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ok, thanks for enlighten me up.
1)high reps for cutting and low reps for size is myth.
2)heavy weights low reps is good proven by scientific backup
3)after sometimes, must change training style to make sure your body have to adapt new enviroment to grow bigger.

Am I right now?
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so the conclusion is , to be a pro bodybuilder ...u still hv to make mistake in order to get what u want . trial in error ...haha


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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:29 PM)
ok, thanks for enlighten me up.
1)high reps for cutting and low reps for size is myth.
2)heavy weights low reps is good proven by scientific backup
3)after sometimes, must change training style to make sure your body have to adapt new enviroment to grow bigger.

Am I right now?
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 04:23 PM)
You misunderstand me again! I said it is a myth in context of high reps for cutting and low reps for size.
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but darklight say this. I read already.
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so the conclusion is , to be a pro bodybuilder ...u still hv to make mistake in order to get what u want . trial in error ...haha
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but darklight say this. I read already.
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Haha...Show me ur nerves , damn its genetic again!!!
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" I said it is a myth in context of high reps for cutting and low reps for size." is not same with "high reps for cutting and low reps for size is myth"?

sorry my english is weak then..huh..huh..
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Haha...Show me ur nerves , damn its genetic again!!!
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Hey................. this pic is specially for you. smile.gif
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Added on April 25, 2007, 4:46 pmAnd yeah, you look better with baseball cap

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ROFL!!!!!!!!


Added on April 25, 2007, 4:46 pmAnd yeah, you look better with baseball cap
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That pic was taken a year and a half ago when i was suffering from post workout fatigue. I save it for special people like Canopies because they make me experience post workout fatigue without me even working out.

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Bah... You should dedicate it to King83 earlier too..
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hmm.......i want to lose fat, only on the tummy. im losing me abs.

reduce carbo intake?

or

should i start a minor workout program, weightlifting. i cant do cardio now or anything lower body cause im still nursing an injury to my ankle.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 25 2007, 04:55 PM)
Aww gee... I'm naturally hairy on teh face. Oooh... oooh!! I know! You could improvise.
Shave off your pubes and stick 'em there.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Apr 25 2007, 04:56 PM)
hmm.......i want to lose fat, only on the tummy. im losing me abs.

reduce carbo intake?

or

should i start a minor workout program, weightlifting. i cant do cardio now cause im still nursing an injury to my ankle.
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I'm talking about you saying high reps is for burning fat and low reps for size. It's a myth. It's individual muscle fibre composition theory (high twitch or low twitch make-up).
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I read read read read and read again, but my conclusion is still
1)high reps for cutting and low reps for size is myth.
cuz darklight said. Anything wrong?
I really don't think my english level so low
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is the liquor thing also another myth ?
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QUOTE(Kelvinz @ Apr 25 2007, 04:57 PM)
I read read read read and read again, but my conclusion is still
1)high reps for cutting and low reps for size is myth.
cuz darklight said. Anything wrong?
I really don't think my english level so low
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You can't spot reduce.
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i dont get you, i should not reduce carbo? but even if i wanted i plan to reduce a little, and only for a short while cause currently im eating more then im burning. also i dont have much room for body building and extra cardio activities, im active in sports also so i do have an amount of exercise
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Apr 25 2007, 05:02 PM)
i dont get you, i should not reduce carbo? but even if i wanted i plan to reduce a little, and only for a short while cause currently im eating more then im burning. also i dont have much room for body building and extra cardio activities, im active in sports also so i do have an amount of exercise
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I mean you can't reduce fat in a specific area. Your body lose fat as a whole.


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QUOTE(musclemass @ Apr 25 2007, 05:04 PM)
I mean you can't reduce fat in a specific area. Your body lose fat as a whole.
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i know, im not starting a crunch and abs workout program. it seems like im targeting but its because only my tummy is the one thats getting bigger. so i just mention that only.

still, options?

issit better that i reduce carbo or i increase my workout. currently i play sports about 2 -3 times a week lasting about 2-3 hours each. so gym would be extra.....
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Apr 25 2007, 05:16 PM)
i know, im not starting a crunch and abs workout program. it seems like im targeting but its because only my tummy is the one thats getting bigger. so i just mention that only.

still, options?

issit better that i reduce carbo or i increase my workout. currently i play sports about 2 -3 times a week lasting about 2-3 hours each. so gym would be extra.....
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How about eating less? Reducing your caloric intake? Carb timing? Cutting carbs after 7pm, etc and all that.

I can tell you that no matter how active you are if your diet is crap, eg. you're eating a double maggi goreing every night and all that, you will still stay fat.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Apr 25 2007, 05:16 PM)
i know, im not starting a crunch and abs workout program. it seems like im targeting but its because only my tummy is the one thats getting bigger. so i just mention that only.

still, options?

issit better that i reduce carbo or i increase my workout. currently i play sports about 2 -3 times a week lasting about 2-3 hours each. so gym would be extra.....
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Try reducing carbs first, if you don't notice any changes, you might want to throw in some cardio

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How about eating less? Reducing your caloric intake? Carb timing? Cutting carbs after 7pm, etc and all that.

I can tell you that no matter how active you are if your diet is crap, eg. you're eating a double maggi goreing every night and all that, you will still stay fat.
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hahaha, actually i aint fat.. im thin 63kgs and well 172 cm. its because recently in these few months the flab has been increasing.

well i'll do this, i'll reduce carbo...only for dinner and stop on my fizz drinks for a while.
and start a tuna diet, when ever i get hungry i pop a can. then i start a minor workout program.

im already doing cardio pretty regular, i play guard for bball so i run a lot. its pretty much how i manage to keep slim for all these years.
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hahaha, actually i aint fat.. im thin 63kgs and well 172 cm. its because recently in these few months the flab has been increasing.

well i'll do this, i'll reduce carbo...only for dinner and stop on my fizz drinks for a while.
and start a tuna diet, when ever i get hungry i pop a can. then i start a minor workout program.

im already doing cardio pretty regular, i play guard for bball so i run a lot. its pretty much how i manage to keep slim for all these years.
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Didn't say you were fat mate. I meant hypothetically. Yeah, those fizz drinks are crap. Calorie laden. Good luck and keep us updated on the progress.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Apr 25 2007, 05:27 PM)
hahaha, actually i aint fat.. im thin 63kgs and well 172 cm. its because recently in these few months the flab has been increasing.

well i'll do this, i'll reduce carbo...only for dinner and stop on my fizz drinks for a while.
and start a tuna diet, when ever i get hungry i pop a can. then i start a minor workout program.

im already doing cardio pretty regular, i play guard for bball so i run a lot. its pretty much how i manage to keep slim for all these years.
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Fizz drink... No wonder...
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A lotta people don't realize that kind of shit has like 10 tablespoons of goddamn sugar in it. I lol when i see people ordering diet coke. It's still the same shit.
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Well i am new here , Can anyone explain to me what is Reduce Carb and Do Cardio ?

I am trying to lose my weight right now . I dont take Any Junk food and cold drinks for a month already , but i am only losing 2kg ? Omg.

I always do skipping before i start playing with my Dumbell and sit up tongue.gif
For your informations , i am replacing my dinner with Milk and biscuit.

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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Apr 27 2007, 04:12 PM)
Well i am new here , Can anyone explain to me what is Reduce Carb and Do Cardio ?

I am trying to lose my weight right now . I dont take Any Junk food and cold drinks for a month already , but i am only losing 2kg ? Omg.

I always do skipping before i start playing with my Dumbell and sit up tongue.gif
For your informations , i am replacing my dinner with Milk and biscuit.
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reduce those stuff and take more lean meat instead.

in fact, you shouldn't eat noodles.... at all

Cardio = jogging, stair climbing, swimming, dancing bla bla bla

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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Apr 27 2007, 04:12 PM)
Well i am new here , Can anyone explain to me what is Reduce Carb and Do Cardio ?

I am trying to lose my weight right now . I dont take Any Junk food and cold drinks for a month already , but i am only losing 2kg ? Omg.

I always do skipping before i start playing with my Dumbell and sit up tongue.gif
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carb is short for carbohydrate. Yer science teacher shd have taught yo bout carbohydrates in std 3. its stuff like flour, rice and noodles.

do cardio is short for doing cardiovascular activities. such as jogging, running, cycling, swimming, etc.
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QUOTE(Neek @ Apr 27 2007, 04:29 PM)
carb is short for carbohydrate. Yer science teacher shd have taught yo bout carbohydrates in std 3. its stuff like flour, rice and noodles.

do cardio is short for doing cardiovascular activities. such as jogging, running, cycling, swimming, etc.
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Thanks mate smile.gif
I get it already. I eat very less Carbo already , but i am still reducing weight very slowly. Any methods for losing fat more efficiency ? Maybe replacing my lunch and dinner for other food ?

1) I am 20 yrs old, weight is 95 and heigh is 170cm. BMI of 31.8
2) Diet = not sure @@
3) Exercise everyday since last 2 weeks , playing Dumbell and skipping , and sit up 10 times everyday.



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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Apr 27 2007, 04:36 PM)
Thanks mate smile.gif
I get it already. I eat very less Carbo already , but i am still reducing weight very slowly. Any methods for losing fat more efficiency ? Maybe replacing my lunch and dinner for other food ?

1) I am 20 yrs old, weight is 95 and heigh is 170cm. BMI of 31.8
2) Diet = not sure @@
3) Exercise everyday since last 2 weeks , playing Dumbell and skipping , and sit up 10 times everyday.
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Hi all,

i need help here. i know a lot of people here is quiet experience in losing fat and gaining muscle. i'm currently finishing the gym's PT program this weekend. i need a new workout program from 7/5 until 31/5.. i tried to search in bb.com but all the workout program need to use the free weight area. but the gym i currenly enrol until dis may have no free weight. they only have machines and dumbell. the machines are :-

1) Back extension
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8) abs cruncher
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can anyone sugest me a workout program using this machine and dumbell? i'm prepare to workout 5 times per week. cardio 20 minutes after weight training. my goal is to loose weight. cheers mate.
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QUOTE(aimleeds @ May 3 2007, 07:48 AM)
Hi all,

i need help here. i know a lot of people here is quiet experience in losing fat and gaining muscle. i'm currently finishing the gym's PT program this weekend. i need a new workout program from 7/5 until 31/5.. i tried to search in bb.com but all the workout program need to use the free weight area. but the gym i currenly enrol until dis may have no free weight. they only have machines and dumbell. the machines are :-

1) Back extension
2) biceps curl
3)leg press
4) pec dec
5) lat pulldown
6) lower pulley
7) leg curl
8) abs cruncher
9) bench press
10) chest press
11) machine for back(dunno de name)

can anyone sugest me a workout program using this machine and dumbell? i'm prepare to workout 5 times per week. cardio 20 minutes after weight training. my goal is to loose weight. cheers mate.
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you can benchpress dumbells, deadlift dumbells, and even shoulder press dumbells.
squatting might be off tho.
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Dumbbells ARE freeweights  sweat.gif
you can benchpress dumbells, deadlift dumbells, and even shoulder press dumbells.
squatting might be off tho.
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i do dumbbell squat sometimes (alternatively with squat machine) bcoz no squat rack in my gym sad.gif

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Db squats and db military press rocks because they make both ur arms work with the same weights each. They're actually more difficult to do than using barbells.

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I am sad today .. Because last night i overnight at my friend house and yamcha with them at mamak stalls about 1am+..

All of my friend ordered Nasi Lemak ayam and i have ordered Maggie goreng Ayam (Fried chicken).

Currently i am on my fattloss goals but yesterday i eat such oily and meaty meals on late night .. So i was afraid and sad that all my progress (Cardio everyday) will just sia-sia only..

I am worried if i will gain fat more because of that heavy meals last nite.. Anyone can give some advise to me ?

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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ May 8 2007, 01:50 PM)
I am sad today .. Because last night i overnight at my friend house and yamcha with them at mamak stalls about 1am+..

All of my friend ordered Nasi Lemak ayam and i have ordered Maggie goreng Ayam (Fried chicken).

Currently i am on my fattloss goals but yesterday i eat such oily and meaty meals on late night .. So i was afraid and sad that all my progress (Cardio everyday) will just sia-sia only..

I am worried if i will gain fat more because of that heavy meals last nite.. Anyone can give some advise to me ?
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There are 3500 Calories per pound of body fat. how many calories u ate yesterday? i don't think it was even 500 Calories. even all r turned into fat, it is just 0.14lbs of fat.

relax...
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There are 3500 Calories per pound of body fat. how many calories u ate yesterday? i don't think it was even 500 Calories. even all r turned into fat, it is just 0.14lbs of fat.

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once in a blue moon is ok le.. unless u r taking maggie goreng 2-4 days a night every week then wat ever u do will be futile
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it's ok to binge once a while.. train hard and u'll realize you need to give your tummy some loving once a while.

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1 hours of jogging kills how many calories?
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been trying hard to loose some fat lately... but didn't seem to work well, but i did not grow more either.... I suppose that my diet has gone wrong... maybe I've eaten too much carb base food. But I wonder what other food source that's less in carb and high in protien? Coz all the food I've taken are usually high in protein but higher in carb. Sad...

BTW, I couldn't afford a whey product yet... quite tight in budgeting nowadays.
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Depends on the intensity you run.
Running 10km an hour obviously burn more calories then running 10km in 2 hours.


QUOTE(jojoG @ May 9 2007, 09:00 AM)
been trying hard to loose some fat lately... but didn't seem to work well, but i did not grow more either.... I suppose that my diet has gone wrong... maybe I've eaten too much carb base food. But I wonder what other food source that's less in carb and high in protien? Coz all the food I've taken are usually high in protein but higher in carb. Sad...

BTW, I couldn't afford a whey product yet... quite tight in budgeting nowadays.
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high protein but higher in carbs??
are you talking about milk?
throw away ur rice & eat protein only(meat)...
but only do that if you're working out...
cos last time i eat meat only but without exercising,
and i grew fatter.

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QUOTE(jojoG @ May 9 2007, 09:00 AM)
been trying hard to loose some fat lately... but didn't seem to work well, but i did not grow more either.... I suppose that my diet has gone wrong... maybe I've eaten too much carb base food. But I wonder what other food source that's less in carb and high in protien? Coz all the food I've taken are usually high in protein but higher in carb. Sad...

BTW, I couldn't afford a whey product yet... quite tight in budgeting nowadays.
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how long have u been trying? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 9 2007, 02:40 AM)
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For me its 600+ calories. It depends on yer fitness level, age, weight, metabolism and exercise intensity. You'll need to find out how much you burn yerself le...
Its normally much less than you think it is.

QUOTE(jojoG @ May 9 2007, 09:00 AM)
been trying hard to loose some fat lately... but didn't seem to work well, but i did not grow more either.... I suppose that my diet has gone wrong... maybe I've eaten too much carb base food. But I wonder what other food source that's less in carb and high in protien? Coz all the food I've taken are usually high in protein but higher in carb. Sad...

BTW, I couldn't afford a whey product yet... quite tight in budgeting nowadays.
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by the grow, you mean grow muscles or grow fatter?
if you mean didn't grow fatter and didn't put on weight, means you're eating at maintenance calories. you need to cut down a lil more, or say... 500-1000 calories more to lose weight. smile.gif
less carb high protein food are meats. eat skinned chicken (don't go for fried stuff), fish, beef and especially eggs.


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QUOTE(jojoG @ May 9 2007, 09:00 AM)
been trying hard to loose some fat lately... but didn't seem to work well, but i did not grow more either.... I suppose that my diet has gone wrong... maybe I've eaten too much carb base food. But I wonder what other food source that's less in carb and high in protien? Coz all the food I've taken are usually high in protein but higher in carb. Sad...

BTW, I couldn't afford a whey product yet... quite tight in budgeting nowadays.
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as everyone asked. what were u trying? what exercise? what diet
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Maybe 250-400? Not very many, less than a bigmac.
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darkie can never stop putting sex related to health and fitness lol
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darkie can never stop putting sex related to health and fitness lol
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My Info:-
1) 30++, weight nearly 100KGs and height 5' 5", BMI dunno and fat% dunno
2) barely eat heavy meal at night, normally light meal like fruits or bread, biscuits
3) NOW, i'm exercising once a week for 1 hour playing badminton & planning to start going to gym 3 times a week
4) Diet; I ate fried mee or rice for breakfast, sometimes nasi lemak or roti canai & i barely ate anything for dinner BUT if i eat, i'll take nasi goreng or bread

I normally use running on treadmill without inclining for 30 to 60 minutes IF i go to the gym

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QUOTE(madstone @ May 14 2007, 03:45 PM)
My Info:-
1) 30++, weight nearly 100KGs and height 5' 5", BMI dunno and fat% dunno
2) barely eat heavy meal at night, normally light meal like fruits or bread, biscuits
3) NOW, i'm exercising once a week for 1 hour playing badminton & planning to start going to gym 3 times a week

I normally use running on treadmill without inclining for 30 to 60 minutes IF i go to the gym
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post your exact diet (what you eat in detail) so that we can check. please refer to earlier posts for examples
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well, sorry to lost track my previous post. hmm.. all these while I've reduced my waist size from 35 to 34. and it seems maintaining there. as for growth, it means for both muscles and fat. And I do gym, jog, badminton, sailing, occasionally swim when time fits.

well here's the routine
1. 26 age, 75kg, 5'7"
2. breakfast: variations of bread, oat meal, cake, noodles
if hungry : bun or milk or whatever i can get around
lunch : chap choi fan
3 - 4 pm : fruits
pre exercise : milk, buns
dinner : mom's cook food
3. gym, jog on alternate days, on public holidays will swim if the pool is open, sunday sailing, sat badminton

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i need more exercise
gonna start it tonight following my schedule
tuesday thursday sunday
friday playing badminton

after weekly badminton n frequent exercise i can felt my belly getting smaller
the belly near the rib area like going fatless
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QUOTE(madstone @ May 14 2007, 03:45 PM)
My Info:-
1) 30++, weight nearly 100KGs and height 5' 5", BMI dunno and fat% dunno
2) barely eat heavy meal at night, normally light meal like fruits or bread, biscuits
3) NOW, i'm exercising once a week for 1 hour playing badminton & planning to start going to gym 3 times a week
4) Diet; I ate fried mee or rice for breakfast, sometimes nasi lemak or roti canai & i barely ate anything for dinner BUT if i eat, i'll take nasi goreng or bread

I normally use running on treadmill without inclining for 30 to 60 minutes IF i go to the gym
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BMI Categories:
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
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If your weight is 100kg and heigh is 5'5 , then your BMI is = 36.6 .

BMI Categories:
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater
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me 6inch and 100kilos

BMI 30 tongue.gif

now target to loose 20kilos so my BMI will be around 25 icon_idea.gif
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Age: 24
Started since this year.
January to February = Cycling(about 20 - 30mins?)
Then started to jog during the last week of February.

Exercise: Jog in the morning before work and also in the evening after work. Each jogging session is at least 1KM. I do about 20 sit ups and 10 push ups from time to time(sorry..still weak in push ups..so 10 dulu smile.gif )

Waist size? from 36 to < 34 (okay okay I'll use a measuring tape soon =.= )

Weight? Was from 80KG...now around 74KG.
Food:
Breakfast - Drink(Nestum/Coffee) + Bread(fried fish fillet/sausages/butter and jam)

I usually bring bread for lunch(sometimes with fried fish fillet/ sausage/ and plain butter and jam)

I know i know....why eat fried stuff like Fish Fillet and sausages when i wanna lose weight right? haha....I dont know..I have cut down alot in the month of Mid April till now. I think 75% of the time I have been bringing bread with butter and jam.

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ May 23 2007, 04:15 PM)
hehe..would like to add into the list

Age: 24
Started since this year.
January to February =  Cycling(about 20 - 30mins?)
Then started to jog  during the last week of February.

Exercise: Jog in the morning before work and also in the evening after work. Each jogging session is at least 1KM.  I do about 20 sit ups and 10 push ups from time to time(sorry..still weak in push ups..so 10 dulu smile.gif )

Waist size? from 36 to < 34 (okay okay I'll use a measuring tape soon =.= )

Weight? Was from 80KG...now around 74KG.
Food:
Breakfast - Drink(Nestum/Coffee) + Bread(fried fish fillet/sausages/butter and jam)

I usually bring bread for lunch(sometimes with fried fish fillet/ sausage/ and plain butter and jam)

I know i know....why eat fried stuff like Fish Fillet and sausages when i wanna lose weight right? haha....I dont know..I have cut down alot in the month of Mid April till now. I think 75% of the time I have been bringing bread with butter and jam.

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Butter and jam is not eactly the best thing to eat when trying to lose weight as well.
Reason being that butter is fats, and jam has sugar.

btw, you mentioned, breakfast and lunch. dun eat dinner? or forgotten to mention?

Congrats on the weight loss so far tho. keep it up! rclxms.gif
if you could start working with free weights as well instead of just situps and pushups...
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Of course got dinner lar..

Dinner
Rice, Veg and Meat.

lol...if i skipped dinner i would have lost even more hahaha

thanks for the reminder tongue.gif
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i think im getting fatter la
looks like even though i need to gain mass by eating, its like my body demands some cardio as well
what do u think?
my weight tiba2 naik for no reason...
im drinking and eating normally...damn it la
and what i work still got no results...ahahaa
or is this what we call as impatience?
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how long have you been working out/exercising?
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ May 23 2007, 08:39 PM)
i think im getting fatter la
looks like even though i need to gain mass by eating, its like my body demands some cardio as well
what do u think?
my weight tiba2 naik for no reason...
im drinking and eating normally...damn it la
and what i work still got no results...ahahaa
or is this what we call as impatience?
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u makan wayy too much.
Bulking is not an excuse to become fat.
your goal is to achieve caloric excess while keeping fat gain at a minimum.
So don't eat like there's no tomorrow.
If you like eating, wait till you get bigger mass...
you will hafta eat more just to maintain, and for caloric excess, you need to
eat even more

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I did manage to lose somewhere near to 20 kg in one and a half months. What i did was simple meals for morning. Sandwiches, spaghetti and so on. More carbs in the morning. Afternoon opt for more balanced meal. Exercise 3 or 4 hours a day. And dinner containing more proteins. I did eat boiled chicken drumstick and thigh once or twice a week. Worked well. But of course , i was only 12 at that time. So i was very damn free to work out, i just blindly followed wat my mum or maid cooked, and i was growing so that could contribute to weight loss too.

And also, my BMI at that time was near to 30 and it dropped to 22. Now its back at 26 so i need to lose weight again. Sad

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I did manage to lose somewhere near to 20 kg in one and a half months. What i did was simple meals for morning. Sandwiches, spaghetti and so on. More carbs in the morning. Afternoon opt for more balanced meal. Exercise 3 or 4 hours a day. And dinner containing more proteins. I did eat boiled chicken drumstick and thigh once or twice a week. Worked well. But of course , i was only 12 at that time. So i was very damn free to work out, i just blindly followed wat my mum or maid cooked, and i was growing so that could contribute to weight loss too.

And also, my BMI at that time was near to 30 and it dropped to 22. Now its back at 26 so i need to lose weight again. Sad
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20KG in 1 month =.= i baru lost 6KG in 3-4 months =.=

but feels good biggrin.gif clothes that i used to wear..alot more comfortable
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bought new jeans biggrin.gif old one was loose edi
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well... i thought losing fat is more important than losing weight... as losing weight may also mean that u r losing lean mass.

anyway, just want to ask u guys, where can u get a caliper? I've been searching around the farmacy here none sells those... btw, I'm from Sabah
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i lost nearly 2kg in 2 weeks. hopefully all r fat loss. my weight fluctuates greatly, haha.
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Hi! need some info on how to start loosing weight:

Age: 30 yrs old
Sex: Female
Height: 1.6m
Weight: 85 kg
BMI: 33.2 (obese! cry.gif )
Diet: Morning eat yogurt, culutured drink, oatmeal with fruit slices
Lunch eat a fist size of rice with chicken or fish n veggies (if im too hungry)
Dinner eat fried rice (if too hungry) or fruits before heading to bed
In between meals eat rice crackers, sumtimes junk food
Fat %: i don't know

Mid last year i started to exercise together with my fren(doing aerobics from the CD) and starting a diet of fruits only and i manage to loose 5 kg. Earlier this year my weight started to slowly gain back to where i was to 85 kg cry.gif .

The problem is i don't think im fat but the reality sinks in wen ppl comment on how fat i am. Furthermore, wen i started watching the home n health channel, im starting to worry about all this crazy obese related disease.

Rite now i know i have to lose all this weight with all this health scare. Plus i think im gaining weight bcoz my exercise buddy just moved away n i use food s my comfort (comfort food). I have no trouble exercising. I enjoy it. it's just that im too lazy to start n do it alone. Yesterday im taking small steps at a time to start exercising bcoz i noticed that my arms n thighs have grown bigger... cry.gif

Any suggestions from the health gurus?
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Join a gym and find a buddy there ? shadowjass , syd G might help ya , they are experienced female fat loser in our tread eh laugh.gif
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it's great if i were staying somewhere in a city but rite now im staying sumwhere in tampin (a small cozy town area). so i think starting with an exercise CD or just brisk walking at the park will do rite?
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QUOTE(furryfeline @ Jun 5 2007, 10:27 AM)
it's great if i were staying somewhere in a city but rite now im staying sumwhere in tampin (a small cozy town area). so i think starting with an exercise CD or just brisk walking at the park will do rite?
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brisk walk will not do. jogging, HIIT cardio will do.
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brisk walk will not do. jogging, HIIT cardio will do.
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it's great if i were staying somewhere in a city but rite now im staying sumwhere in tampin (a small cozy town area). so i think starting with an exercise CD or just brisk walking at the park will do rite?
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jogging? sweat.gif  not into jogging. but i'll give it a try. what is HIIT? is cycling considered as cardio?
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Exercise is one aspect to losing weight, but more importantly also is the diet. you really need to control what you eat. all the exercise in the world won't do much if your diet is not in control. And by diet, i don't mean starving yourself or only eating grass.
What i mean is, throw away the junk food! don't even buy it in the first place...
if you're not the one buying it, tell whoever it is to stop buying it. why spend money on something that makes you fat? doh.gif
spend it on something that makes you healthier instead. thumbup.gif

Btw, i know fried rice is tasty... its also my favourite... but then i think of it as fried carbohydrates... you can make do with out it.
Try reading up on some of the pinned thread on dieting.. will give you more info on whats good.

Keep up the exercises too. just cos i said diet is more important, doesn't mean you don't exercise. tongue.gif Good luck, all the best! icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Neek @ Jun 5 2007, 05:48 PM)
Exercise is one aspect to losing weight, but more importantly also is the diet. you really need to control what you eat. all the exercise in the world won't do much if your diet is not in control. And by diet, i don't mean starving yourself or only eating grass.
What i mean is, throw away the junk food! don't even buy it in the first place...
if you're not the one buying it, tell whoever it is to stop buying it. why spend money on something that makes you fat?  doh.gif
spend it on something that makes you healthier instead.  thumbup.gif

Btw, i know fried rice is tasty... its also my favourite... but then i think of it as fried carbohydrates... you can make do with out it.
Try reading up on some of the pinned thread on dieting.. will give you more info on whats good.

Keep up the exercises too. just cos i said diet is more important, doesn't mean you don't exercise.  tongue.gif  Good luck, all the best!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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this has been mentioned to death... i think we should pin this up rather than keep repeating all the time.
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QUOTE(Neek @ Jun 5 2007, 07:35 PM)
I know it has been mentioned a million times. its just that new people keep on coming in, and they dun really research about it... so have to mention over and over and over and over... you get the point...  laugh.gif
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Yeah , we should really treat out newbies fine . I hv seen hardware section , people are just everytime asking for recommendation for their new pc , yet those mod and some active members never give up on posting the rigs to the one who needs help . Kudos actually to them
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You don't expect people to spoon feed you with information, do you? You are supposed to do YOUR OWN research before asking questions. That's how you learn.

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You don't expect people to spoon feed you with information, do you? You are supposed to do YOUR OWN research before asking questions. That's how you learn.
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However, i still do try to help the newbies a lil bit. If i flood them with info they'd just give up on reading it anyway or get confused. tongue.gif
So i usually just give some simple tips/concept.
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go t nation! lots of great articles. always spend my extrafree time there

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Then we should post some good info website to them , many of them don't even know the existency of bodybuilding.com , t-nation.com , many more .

Might should be a tread only recommendation for good health and fitness website to share?
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QUOTE(Neek @ Jun 5 2007, 05:48 PM)
Exercise is one aspect to losing weight, but more importantly also is the diet. you really need to control what you eat. all the exercise in the world won't do much if your diet is not in control. And by diet, i don't mean starving yourself or only eating grass.
What i mean is, throw away the junk food! don't even buy it in the first place...
if you're not the one buying it, tell whoever it is to stop buying it. why spend money on something that makes you fat?  doh.gif
spend it on something that makes you healthier instead.  thumbup.gif

Btw, i know fried rice is tasty... its also my favourite... but then i think of it as fried carbohydrates... you can make do with out it.
Try reading up on some of the pinned thread on dieting.. will give you more info on whats good.

Keep up the exercises too. just cos i said diet is more important, doesn't mean you don't exercise.  tongue.gif  Good luck, all the best!   icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks for the advice. actually just for ur info, i did tried exercising without controlling my diet and in the end i only lost 0.5 kg to 1 kg. then i decided to try both and i ended up 5 kg. so rite now i need to start that routine again n discipline myself ever since i found out that i already gained back the weight that i loss. i would say that self disciplinie is most improtant in loosing weight. thanks again for the advice


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so many complex exercises there that i haven't seen before. i m going to try them thumbup.gif
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so many complex exercises there that i haven't seen before. i m going to try them  thumbup.gif
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I hope they're not too complex for newbies. however, shouldn't be too big of a problem if they're using light weights. nod.gif
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can i ask? is swimming effective for slimming down fast? or gym faster? or combine even better? hehe..
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can i ask? is swimming effective for slimming down fast? or gym faster? or combine even better? hehe..
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I read an article which said swimming doesn't burn as much calories compared to jogging cos your weight is being supported by the water. UNLESS you swim butterfly style.

If you're looking at swimming as a form of cardio, then combining is definitely better. nod.gif
but if you're doing swimming to build muscles, uhhh... no comment.
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QUOTE(Neek @ Jun 7 2007, 12:58 AM)
I read an article which said swimming doesn't burn as much calories compared to jogging cos your weight is being supported by the water. UNLESS you swim butterfly style.

If you're looking at swimming as a form of cardio, then combining is definitely better.  nod.gif
but if you're doing swimming to build muscles, uhhh... no comment.
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T_T , I have phobia when my head is totally dunk inside the water . ohmy.gif
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well i doubt that swimming doesn't burn as much calories as jogging even though the body is supported in the water but it takes more energy to move in the water. however, we leave that conclusion to those health science. but 1 thing is clear of is that through a study, found that athlete swimmers contain more body fat than other athletes.

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Because it helps them float better?

Hey , does swimming helps increase the broadness of shoulder?
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i wanna be thinner but not more muscular...isit even possible??
cuz i used to play sports...n then stopped..n then now fat...
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@Ripp87
Combine both.And of course,you also need to look into your overall diet

@Canopies
To a certain extent yes

Body fat helps to provide energy, which is essential for endurance.

@mumuz,for long term maintenance or control your bf,you need muscle.Having more muscle,helps to increase metabolism,hence you can eat more(but not binge eating) and not worry too much about fat.

Here's some links for your reading
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/goulet5.htm
http://www.busywomensfitness.com/bodybuilding.html




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Im curious abt a few things...like what kind of foods are actually better..These are a list of the stuffs i mostly eat i guess..i can have some of these for breakfast/lunch/dinner..tho some of them may be really light for as a meal itself.and yeah.i know its not the typical kinda diet laugh.gif but i perceive some as being quite healthy food(correct me if im wrong)

Fish(any style..but mostly here as u know is fried lah.)
yong tau fu
Pasta/Spaghetti
Instant soup
Pancake(the malay type)
tau fu fa
Claypot yee mee
Pastry/cakes/bread(dun eat much ady nowdays..i know its bad haha)
Biscuits(currently loving the IKO brand wholegrain biscuit)
Sushi
noodle/meehun soup
mamak food (chapati,naan/cheese naan)
PEANUTS. I love peanuts alot and cant stop eating once i start lol but i dun think it is THAT healthy hmm.gif
Pao.Particularly the vegetarian one
Fruits.yeah i eat quite alot of fruits..

So out of this list..which one shud i avoid completely or cut down? U can certainly count in rice and noodles cause i seriously have no idea how to NOT eat those when im living in malaysia. Im staying outside and my food choices are pretty limited..and abt half of those i listed are basically wat is available here..plus mix rice,all kinds of rice with fish/chic/beef/lamb...noodles...those kind. But i would like to know which of those in the list are the better/healthier choices. Oh btw, i very very seldom touch nasi lemak,fried kuey teow,McD,kfc,pizza.Can say i only eat those once in a blue moon or during special occasions only. And i would like to ask..how much calories in a meal is considered little or moderate or alot? For eg, if a meal contains abt 300+ calories is it considered alot?

And abt exercise...i go gym abt twice a week and always use the stationary bike only.they have this thing to calculate how mnuch calories burnt..is it accurate? I got do before till 500+ few times and got once 600+..sumore so tired d after that so i dun use the treadmill and other stuffs..

After eating a meal,how long should one wait before going to bed? I for one,normally set a 'timer' for 3 hours at least..but ive read sumwhere someone said 4 hours.So..curious abt that too.

Sorry if im asking too much questions here..but hope i can gain some information from this and help others to do so along the way as well. Hope someone can kindly answer my questions. Thanks smile.gif

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age:19
current weight:125kg
current heigt:173cm
BMI:41.4
my diet :no rice, trying to avoid carb
my execise rutin:morning:walk n jogging arond 2 km
night :cycle for 1hour


how to make it keep cutting down on the weight...??
after cycle lose some weight ...eat a bit n drink than sure weight rise again rclxub.gif
hate this ...i really wanna lose it laugh.gif ..kinda happy when 1st drop few kg but sadly cant go down more than that sweat.gif
i think one thing that is great is that i can jog now for a while..where i could not do that before
i just started for about one week...
any advise u guys??
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Fat is used as a fuel source in beta oxidation, which is the system used during long duration, low intensity cardio. During the first 18 - 25 minutes, you're still using sugar as a fuel source, but after that time passes, your body starts breaking down fat.

If you can talk but can't sing, you know you're at the right intensity. This can be walking on an incline for 30+ minutes. If you do circuit training and other more intense aerobic work, it will increase you're level of fitness, which means you're personal "low intensity work" will be at a comparatively higher level, eliciting more calories burned and effectively more weight loss.
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Because it helps them float better?

Hey , does swimming helps increase the broadness of shoulder?
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i think so.. cos usually swimmers have broad shoulder.. nod.gif

for me, i swim to de-stress... and also for cardio..

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I hv broad shoulders but I seldom swim.....

No stamina blush.gif
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I hv broad shoulders but I seldom swim.....

No stamina blush.gif
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me too.. esp when doing free style.. totally beat!! shakehead.gif
so i alternate between breast stroke and free style so that i can do at least 5 laps without stopping..
now want to pick up jogging to incease my stamina.. can right?
i mean jogging to increase stamina??
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Due to the many many threads around asking bout how to lose their tummy or lose fat or is their diet fattening or whatever, post here. Please dont open a new thread. If every single person wants an individual thread to lose weight, we'll be filled with them. be considerate and use your brains.

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1. 31, 52KG , 171cm
2. breakfast (4 keping gardenia), lunch (5 keping gardenia), dinner (5 keping gardenia + 1 maggie)
3. never exercise

my waist shrunk to 27inch from 31inch in 2 months.

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1. 31, 52KG , 171cm
2. breakfast (4 keping gardenia), lunch (5 keping gardenia), dinner (5 keping gardenia + 1 maggie)
3. never exercise

my waist shrunk to 27inch from 31inch in 2 months.
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seriously?? i mean the food part not the weight loss part...
no veggies, fruits, meat?? shakehead.gif
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seriously?? i mean the food part not the weight loss part...
no veggies, fruits, meat??  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 23 2007, 10:56 AM)
I hv broad shoulders but I seldom swim.....

No stamina blush.gif
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well my body's hideous but i know i have stamina
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bump bump. need some advice.

age:27
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tuesday-tkd class
wednesday-gym
thursday-gym
friday-tkd class
saturday-sumtimes gym
sunday-lazy day

cutting down on carbo for the moment. planning to add jogging once i get a reliable jogging companion namely a german sheperd doggie ehhe

u guys think i'm overdoing the exercise?
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bump bump. need some advice.

age:27
height:172cm
weight:84 kg.

routine:
monday-yoga
tuesday-tkd class
wednesday-gym
thursday-gym
friday-tkd class
saturday-sumtimes gym
sunday-lazy day

cutting down on carbo for the moment. planning to add jogging once i get a reliable jogging companion namely a german sheperd doggie ehhe

u guys think i'm overdoing the exercise?
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Actually carbo is not that matter much , most importantly is calories in calories out . But I guess with ur active lifestyle , as long as your diet is normal and clean , bet u gotta lose weight fast.

I go to gym 5days per week ,

monday-gym (weight training)
tuesday-gym (cardio)
wednesday-gym (weight training)
thurs-rest or gym (alternate) (cardio)
fri-gym (weight training)
sat-gym or rest(alternate) (cycling class 1.5hour)
sunday-rest or gym if free. (cardio)

my weight and height same as u but I'm 18 this year. So, should have no problem losing down the weight , all the best mate !

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QUOTE(cskeong @ Jul 25 2007, 10:54 AM)
bump bump. need some advice.

age:27
height:172cm
weight:84 kg.

routine:
monday-yoga
tuesday-tkd class
wednesday-gym
thursday-gym
friday-tkd class
saturday-sumtimes gym
sunday-lazy day

cutting down on carbo for the moment. planning to add jogging once i get a reliable jogging companion namely a german sheperd doggie ehhe

u guys think i'm overdoing the exercise?
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Whatcha do at the gym?
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Jul 25 2007, 11:03 AM)
Actually carbo is not that matter much , most importantly is calories in calories out . But I guess with ur active lifestyle , as long as your diet is normal and clean , bet u gotta lose weight fast.

I go to gym 5days per week ,

monday-gym (weight training)
tuesday-gym (cardio)
wednesday-gym (weight training)
thurs-rest or gym (alternate) (cardio)
fri-gym (weight training)
sat-gym or rest(alternate) (cycling class 1.5hour)
sunday-rest or gym if free. (cardio)

my weight and height same as u but I'm 18 this year. So, should have no problem losing down the weight , all the best mate !

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"overdoing the exercise" is subject to ur diet, rest & sleep and duration of exercises. so as long as u feel energetic, then u r fine  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I heard that usually when ppl go for diet, they only consume either "oats" or "sweet potato" for their daily meals. Those two things can make you feel full but at the same time, dieting. Is is true ?? My fren told me she ate oats every day for breakfast and dinner. Then lucnh, she eats rice like normal. And she said her waist is smaller now and she is indeed thinner now. What about sweet potato??? I thot sweet potato has lotsa starch and it's fattening ?? Correct me if i'm wrong biggrin.gif.


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Weight : 50kg

I know my BMI is normal but I just want to have a nice body shape.
My diet? Normally no breakfast, too rush for me. Lunch? Either sandwiches or pao, sometimes when I have time, fried kuey teow or nasi lemak or eco rice. Dinner, depends do I have time to eat or not. I am quite busy with my work. So not much time for me to do any exercise. But my work need to walk around, sometimes run too. I was thinking to try out swimming but so far no time for it yet. So any better way for me to get a better shape? Cut off food? I do not know why do I look chubby/ fat with current weight and height. Help please sad.gif sad.gif
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1. 24 yrs old, 61kg,168cm,BMI 21.6
morning: cereal, kuehtiew soup,chinese tea,aft: veggie, milo oat, nite..spirulina+soy powder drink, a bit of veggie and meat or soup.
Replace rice, bread, kueh with beehoon, kuehtiew
rarely exercise..mayb juz walk steps becauseI'm a teacher.
any comment? my ideal kg is 56kg
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Ideal weight according to?
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i found this on the website.
mayb u can try?
我常用来量女性体重的公式
算是公开了一些秘密给各位美媚了啦....
准与不准都可以告诉我,谢谢你的指点!


身高-100*0.70以下=(你目前的体重)
骨女型,一般上整体都瘦瘦的,上围也较平,看似有点营养不够了

身高-100*0.72=(你目前的体重)
纤瘦型,身材较特出的该是脸较瘦,腰围也小

身高-100*0.75=(你目前的体重)
腰女型,整体的三围都匀称,最明显是腰围有相当显眼的美感

身高-100*0.80=(你目前的体重)
丰满型,三围完美,上围与腰围的比率造成上围看似明显的"丰满"

身高-100*0.85=(你目前的体重)
小腹型,上围看似明显的"丰满"整体的三围中腰有点粗,小腹少许凸出

身高-100*0.90=(你目前的体重)
肉女型,全身整体看似有点多余的肉,如手臂、腰、小腹、大腿

身高-100*0.95=(你目前的体重)
小肥型,全身整体看似有点发胖的感觉,臀部、大腿也较肥大

身高-100*1.00=(你目前的体重)
发胖型,全身整体看似有偏向发胖的感觉,脸圆,手掌多肉

身高-100*1.00以上=(你目前的体重)
肥胖型,你...肥了!人家会叫你肥妹仔!呵呵!


(身高(cm)减100)乘0.7至1.0
看那一个是属于目前的体重

例如:
身高160cm,体重45kg

=(160-100)*0.75
=60*0.75
=45

0.75=腰女型


Added on August 4, 2007, 2:28 pmin english..should go like this:
(height in cm-100)*0.xx=current weight
it more or less help you to know which category you're in..
the ideal weight is the one (*0.75)
example: mine
(168-100)*0.75=51kg--> usually too thin so i added a few kgs

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it doesn't actually work that way. people shouldn't be so concern of the weight scale. its all about how u look on the mirror. if u are on the perfect ideal weight of your BMI or wat so ever calculation, but u look shit on the mirror. doesn't that mean u r fit or hot or perfectly balances body wat so ever right?
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I know how I looked when I'm 65kg.. wear what also not pretty..broad back, lumps here and there.. any my clothes are XL or large L.
now I'd dropped till 61kg..still heavy but at least the tummy has shrunk..and i look and feel better.. so my next target is 58kg..If i Look best at that weight, I might maintain it.
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I just don't know , when I tell my friends about my weight , they just don't believe. Not one of them , most of them don't believe my current weight. WTF? They thought I'm just around 75kg ...swt ,


P/s: I'm still a fatty.
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my frens also din believe i'm 65kg.. their reason: becoz u are tall marr..
my tummy is bulging and they still say:" becoz u are tall so it's not that significant". sheezz..what the heck
now i'm 61kg..i feel lighter..and my dress doesnt hang on me that tightly . lol
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I gained some weight but lost some serious fat. Muscles ftw
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is it eat whey protein can help gain more stamina to do cardio?
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No. Funnily I started being able to do some decent running after doing 100kg leg presses. It gives the 'autorun' effect for whatever reason. So instead of dragging my legs in order to improve stamina, I really use it to my advantage.

After that, train slowly from 15 mins to 20 mins to 25 mins (check my earlier entries).

It's nice to have stamina. Helps with weights too smile.gif


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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 15 2007, 12:24 PM)
No. Funnily I started being able to do some decent running after doing 100kg leg presses. It gives the 'autorun' effect for whatever reason. So instead of dragging my legs in order to improve stamina, I really use it to my advantage.

After that, train slowly from 15 mins to 20 mins to 25 mins (check my earlier entries).

It's nice to have stamina. Helps with weights too smile.gif
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syd G..the whey u taking from the bulk selling...1 botol can last for how long...?1 month?
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1 tub has 77 servings. Around one month. But I'm pretty kedekut and take only on workout days for post-workout. Could stretch it till 2 months wink.gif
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 15 2007, 12:48 PM)
1 tub has 77 servings. Around one month. But I'm pretty kedekut and take only on workout days for post-workout. Could stretch it till 2 months wink.gif
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ooo..cool i think i will soon order some from rayzai...today going to site visit clark hatch after work tongue.gif
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OMG! Let's turn fat into teh musclez.

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernu...fat-into-muscle

READ!
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hi all
me details as below

age = 27
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jog and walk to warm up for 20 min. no stamina to go further also

then continue with this ski
for 30 minute

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90 kilo for 100 times

bfast normal noodle stuff
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then this
90 kilo for 100 times

Wo0T???
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or is it 90 pound ? i mean the weight i set there wrote 90
do it 100 times
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sorry ha
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QUOTE(ahchun @ Aug 22 2007, 02:22 PM)
or is it 90 pound ? i mean the weight i set there wrote 90
do it 100 times
hehhe
sorry ha
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The first thing u need to know is there's so such thing at spot reduction. Means u target on ur abs to lose the fats around your abs.

The only way to lose weight is cardio cardio cardio . Run , or do sky walker (I love it) and watch tv if your gym has it.Lolx , if u are extremely fatso like the before me , try 1 hour moderate cardio . I know its really tough at first but gradually u will love it cos the results will tell u from people mouth.

Besides cardio , u need to do weight training to maintain your muscle mass. Do some full body workout 2 days per week before cardio. Thats how I lost great amount of fats in 7months time .

Oh yeah , diet is important too.
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Spot reduction is NOT a myth!!!

Liposuction = spot reduction tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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90lbs la. 90kilo is, 200lbs. u ab crunch my squat? w00t
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sorry shld be 90 pound lor
hehhe

i do some weightlisfting for sholuder and arm also.
yes
since i cant jog or run much
i target to make my sky walker time longer.
thanks for the advice.

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Aug 22 2007, 02:11 PM)
hi all
me details as below

age = 27
kg = 108
cm = 185

went to gym regularly for pass 3 week
jog and walk to warm up for 20 min. no stamina to go further also

then continue with this ski
for 30 minute

then this
90 kilo for 100 times

bfast normal noodle stuff
noon chap fan or noodle
night sometimes soya
sometimes light vege and meat

please comment and help
look fat
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Your diet, consists so much carbo. Should try to reduce or at least, avoid as much as possible. Eat more veges, preferable boiled or steamed and season it with salt for flavouring. Meat, try to avoid fats, if you notice them, cut and trim 'em. I would normally go for chicken breast fillets, they are low in fat and great source of protein. And for the jog, try at least 40mins, I think thats even better than sky walker. I know it sounds hard, but you should be familiarized with it in no time.
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i try hard to reduce high card food nowaday
but for jog 40 minute still never reach that stage yet
we try to improve slowly

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guys....need some advice >.<
How many scoops of whey do you use ? Like syd g...i take only during my post workout and everynight before i sleep. So far I've been taking 1 scoop only.

Does it depend on much you workout? i'm only working with dumbbells though

Also I dont take my protein shake in the morning though.

I've been reading here and there...they did advice..for non workout days....to drink 1 in the morning and 1 for prebed?

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prebed whey should be taken with milk. else dont bother smile.gif
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yea..i always take it with milk anyway biggrin.gif
damn nice..double rich choc....

i think i should be using 2 scoops instead of 1 scoop
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 11:50 AM)
yea..i always take it with milk anyway biggrin.gif
damn nice..double rich choc....

i think i should be using 2 scoops instead of 1 scoop
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you're the first person i know to have said whey dam nice notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 10:45 AM)
guys....need some advice >.<
How many scoops of whey do you use ? Like syd g...i take only during my post workout and everynight before i sleep. So far I've been taking 1 scoop only.

Does it depend on much you workout? i'm only working with dumbbells though

Also I dont take my protein shake in the morning though.

I've been reading here and there...they did advice..for non workout days....to drink 1 in the morning and 1 for prebed?
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To answer this, you'll first need to understand why you wanna take whey protein in the first place.
Whey protein supplement is just to increase your daily protein intake. so lets say for example, you're supposed to get 150g of protein a day, and you've gotten protein from eating your normal dietary food (chicken, fish, beef, milk, whatever) up to 100g, then you might wanna take a protein shake to increase your total protein intake for that day.
but if you've ate lots of meat and drank lotsa milk already, and have met your daily required protein intake, then you don't need to drink your protein shake anymore. can save you a few bucks tongue.gif

The reason we take whey protein post workout is cos its fast absorbing compared to other sources. as muscle break-down occured during resistance training, we wanna supplement the body with quick absorbing protein to provide the body with the materials to repair the muscles ASAP.

Edit: Oh, i forgot to answer the prebed time part... some ppl take before sleeping cos the body does most of its recovery work while we're sleeping. so its only common sense to give the body the required materials to repair itself while you sleep. so lets drink away my friend! cheers.gif protein shake ftw!!

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QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 23 2007, 12:52 PM)
The reason we take whey protein post workout is cos its fast absorbing compared to other sources. as muscle break-down occured during resistance training, we wanna supplement the body with quick absorbing protein to provide the body with the materials to repair the muscles ASAP.
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^^^^ Exactly why I only take it post-workout wink.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 12:40 PM)
you're the first person i know to have said whey dam nice  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I dunno about you... but i like the ON protein shakes too...
i had some nasty ones b4.. so drinking ONs whey is actually much nicer compared to those sucky one...
some ppl said cookies and cream sucked... but i actually liked it tongue.gif
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good day milk + double choc whey= memang nice.
double choc whey+water= sucks
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 11:50 AM)
yea..i always take it with milk anyway biggrin.gif
damn nice..double rich choc....

i think i should be using 2 scoops instead of 1 scoop
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bad move...
unless you're that freaking big, any excess protein will get stored as fat.
and don't forget your milk, there's already some protein there.
going 2 scoops will not make u any bigger.

it's like saying i'll drink this whole tub of whey today and get big tomorrow.
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QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 23 2007, 12:59 PM)
I dunno about you... but i like the ON protein shakes too...
i had some nasty ones b4.. so drinking ONs whey is actually much nicer compared to those sucky one...
some ppl said cookies and cream sucked... but i actually liked it  tongue.gif
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again. there was a legendary thread about cookies and cream whey taste like vagina. lol search for it lol
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vagina tastes acidic actually.

more like... no-xplode or fruitified creatine mix wink.gif
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Neek,
i understand ON are the best tasting ones... but still, all whey tastes like crap.
I would choose to drink any softdrinks over whey at any given day for the taste.
But still, we drink it for its nutritional value. Whey is just nasty... so i was surprised
to see someone enjoying its taste.


and jones, cookies and cream DOES NOT taste like vagina.
Vanilla taste like vagina cool2.gif

my feedback on the ones i've tasted,
double choc --> tastes like ass
cookies & cream --> tastes like dead fish
rocky road --> tastes like puke
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 01:07 PM)
vagina tastes acidic actually.

more like... no-xplode or fruitified creatine mix wink.gif
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how would u know? blink.gif
wait.... don't answer that.
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You should try Syntha-6 with milk! superb! really like drinking chocolate milk shake...
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 01:12 PM)
Vanilla taste like vagina  cool2.gif

my feedback on the ones i've tasted,
double choc --> tastes like ass
cookies & cream --> tastes like dead fish
rocky road --> tastes like puke
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If you can read between the lines, you've just admitted that you've tasted vagina, ass, dead fish and puke.


Added on August 23, 2007, 1:15 pm
QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 23 2007, 01:14 PM)
You should try Syntha-6 with milk! superb! really like drinking chocolate milk shake...
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What a coincidence. I just ordered mine. For pre-bed and super emergency meal replacement biggrin.gif

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ei syd your vanilla whey. save to scoops for me. remember to bring when we meet up lol
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wah...why my simple question about whey sudden has vagina tasting =.=

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The reason we take whey protein post workout is cos its fast absorbing compared to other sources. as muscle break-down occured during resistance training, we wanna supplement the body with quick absorbing protein to provide the body with the materials to repair the muscles ASAP.
anyway...thanks Neek. yea..that is why i started taking protein shakes too..friends that are working out are advising me alittle.


King83:
of course I know drinking protein shakes doesn't make you big..I've never said that. Why do you think I worked hard to lose 8KG? all my effort to watch what I eat...wake up in the morning to jog. I might be new but i aint that stupid to drink the whole tub right?

Its just that my friend told me it will do me some good. I've just started to workout..


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Neek,
i understand ON are the best tasting ones... but still, all whey tastes like crap.
I would choose to drink any softdrinks over whey at any given day for the taste.
But still, we drink it for its nutritional value. Whey is just nasty... so i was surprised
to see someone enjoying its taste.
and jones, cookies and cream DOES NOT taste like vagina.
Vanilla taste like vagina  cool2.gif

my feedback on the ones i've tasted,
double choc --> tastes like ass
cookies & cream --> tastes like dead fish
rocky road --> tastes like puke
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lol dude...no offense..but I seriously wonder how you make your protein shakes man..




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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:08 PM)
ei syd your vanilla whey. save to scoops for me. remember to bring when we meet up lol
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Okie. I have em in my car permanently wink.gif

QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 02:15 PM)
Its just that my friend told me it will do me some good. I've just started to workout..
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Congratulations on your decision to start working out. Whey is good for you since you know how to consume it dy. If I could turn back time, I'd stock up on whey when I first started just to ease up recovery a bit.

Syd with sore muscles = pissy Syd laugh.gif
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metalfreak,
i wasn't dissing u lah...
i just advised not to drink 2 scoops for prebed else u'll become fat.

i don't know what ur reason to wanting to drink 2 scoops, but as for as i'm concerned,
nobody will want to gain fat.

your friend is an idiot... let him drink 2 scoops and get fat.
You only need to drink that much if you are fukking big.

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then u dont have to sound so boast full and post a nasty post la king.. i told u many times ady.. not everyone knows u. new ppl will be pissed off with your post like tat.. add in IMHO every post and it will be fine.. lol

and also taking 2 scoops of pre bed is not wrong as well. advance traners take up to 8 scoops of whey on workout day. u'll never know how much protein your body needs. and for bodybuilding/weightlifters/powerlifters/athelete, the recommended protein intake is 1.5 grams per pound of body. so taking 2 scoops is not really too much
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oh nvm jones007. I know how he posts from other threads as well

i know lar king83..relax smile.gif I know you're not dissing me. haha

anyway I've been taking 1 scoop. even after workingout..

so its okay to take 2 scoops for post workout shakes?
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i think i should be like bata and put a "IMHO" at the end of every post laugh.gif

i see where this is going, so i'm not gonna start.
It'll only end with us saying protein in excess gets peed out / stored as fat.
Either way, as a young trainer, i'd really suggest sticking to 1 scoop like most of us here do.

IMHO
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 02:20 PM)
Congratulations on your decision to start working out. Whey is good for you since you know how to consume it dy. If I could turn back time, I'd stock up on whey when I first started just to ease up recovery a bit.

Syd with sore muscles = pissy Syd laugh.gif
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yea biggrin.gif

Doing HIIT cardio gets kinda boring..so I alternate nowadays... 1 day for working out..1 day for cardio

smile.gif

more muscle = more fat burning


Added on August 23, 2007, 2:38 pmlol king83..


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2 scoops as pre workout 1 scoop as pre bed will do perfectly fine.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:44 PM)
2 scoops as pre workout 1 scoop as pre bed will do perfectly fine.
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yeah...
The prebed one is easy to determine when it's not enough.
e.g. if you're still feeling sore the next day, it's time to upgrade.

IMHO
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ah thanks...I'll do that now biggrin.gif

btw..I dont know whether my friend takes 1 scoop or 2 scoop for their prebed.

they take cottage cheese and peanut butter..i think..how many scoops of whey..that I dont know smile.gif

Thanks jones!

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:36 PM)
i think i should be like bata and put a "IMHO" at the end of every post  laugh.gif

i see where this is going, so i'm not gonna start.
It'll only end with us saying protein in excess gets peed out / stored as fat.
Either way, as a young trainer, i'd really suggest sticking to 1 scoop like most of us here do.

IMHO
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Wow , thats my first time seeing him saying IMHO !!! Good job then blink.gif
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 02:47 PM)
ah thanks...I'll do that now biggrin.gif

btw..I dont know whether my friend takes 1 scoop or 2 scoop for their prebed.

they take cottage cheese and peanut butter..i think..how many scoops of whey..that I dont know smile.gif

Thanks jones!
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Cottage cheese is a form of casein protein.
its a slow digesting protein. to get more detailed info.. you can google it.. or wiki it.
IMO, casein protein b4 bsleep is better than whey b4 sleep.
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SELLING MY CHOC MINT ON WHEY 100% , TASTE LIKE SUPERB NICE !!! Imagine after your workout , having a cooling mint beverage to cool you down. Syok !!!
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 02:47 PM)
ah thanks...I'll do that now biggrin.gif

btw..I dont know whether my friend takes 1 scoop or 2 scoop for their prebed.

they take cottage cheese and peanut butter..i think..how many scoops of whey..that I dont know smile.gif

Thanks jones!
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cheese and PB have very high fat content than protein.
so if u're taking that as ur protein intake and fats is of concern to you,
you're better off eating something else.

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This is a classic case of buying too many whey of same flavour too soon tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 23 2007, 02:52 PM)
SELLING MY CHOC MINT ON WHEY 100% , TASTE LIKE SUPERB NICE !!! Imagine after your workout , having a cooling mint beverage to cool you down. Syok !!!
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I smell something fishy hmm.gif

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 02:47 PM)
ah thanks...I'll do that now biggrin.gif

btw..I dont know whether my friend takes 1 scoop or 2 scoop for their prebed.

they take cottage cheese and peanut butter..i think..how many scoops of whey..that I dont know smile.gif

Thanks jones!
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cottage cheese itu fat.. peanut butter as well. unless u r bulking. and u r not an FFB

QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 23 2007, 02:50 PM)
Cottage cheese is a form of casein protein.
its a slow digesting protein. to get more detailed info.. you can google it.. or wiki it.
IMO, casein protein b4 bsleep is better than whey b4 sleep.
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true true. then again ada fat..

QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 03:03 PM)
I smell something fishy  hmm.gif

IMHO
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i feel something fishy as well hmm.gif

LMAO
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 03:17 PM)
i feel something fishy as well hmm.gif

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i smell something fishy but you "feel" something fishy ??

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As an ex pro cottage cheese consumer, I'd like to say that cottage cheese has among the lowest amount of fat among all teh cheezes.

Why ya'll so afraid of fat? IMHO stress, smoking and alcohol are far worse than that teeny tiny fat content in cottage cheeze.

Oh I accidently terbashed someone? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 03:24 PM)
As an ex pro cottage cheese consumer, I'd like to say that cottage cheese has among the lowest amount of fat among all teh cheezes.

Why ya'll so afraid of fat? IMHO stress, smoking and alcohol are far worse than that teeny tiny fat content in cottage cheeze.

Oh I accidently terbashed someone? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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What about cheddar cheese ? I messed up with CC , I thought CC is cheddar cheese , so I bought 3 boxes Kraft cheddar cheese. Rm7 only , Jusco promotion.
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yea..my friends...they are bulking

im not tongue.gif i'm just er...i also dunno. working out for the sake of fitness biggrin.gif
1 more KG to lose then i'll be in the healthy zone! ahaha =.=
although i 'm aiming for 70KG >.< this month reached 72kg edi

damn..lose 1 single KG in 1 month...slow progress?

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 03:27 PM)
yea..they are bulking tongue.gif

im not tongue.gif i'm just er...i also dunno. working for the sake of fitness biggrin.gif
1 more KG to lose then i'll be in the healthy zone! ahaha =.=
although i 'm aiming for 70KG >.< this month reached 72kg edi

damn..lose 1 single KG in 1 month...slow progress?
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Optimum weight loss is 1kg a week...

IMHO no, i am fukking sure laugh.gif

maybe something wrong with ur diet... post it let us see see

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posted before lar....
at the main stickies.... tongue.gif sorry malas wanna retype tongue.gif

thanks anywayz tongue.gif

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According to USDA Nutrient Data Laboratory :

Cottage Cheese (per 100g) has 12.5g protein, 4.5g fat and 2.68g carbs.
Cheddar Cheese (per 100g) has 24.9g protein, 33.14g fat and 1.28g carbs.

So yeah, it's not the same. I can finish one small tub of cottage cheese easy peasy cause they're easy to swallow. Cant say the same as Cheddar wink.gif Btw, I stopped taking cottage cheese it cause it's very expensive!

But you can make wicked sandwiches with cheddar cheese tho thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 03:23 PM)
i smell something fishy but you "feel" something fishy ??

IMMFHO
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whats IMMFHO? in my mighty f***ing humble opinion?

QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 03:24 PM)
As an ex pro cottage cheese consumer, I'd like to say that cottage cheese has among the lowest amount of fat among all teh cheezes.

Why ya'll so afraid of fat? IMHO stress, smoking and alcohol are far worse than that teeny tiny fat content in cottage cheeze.

Oh I accidently terbashed someone? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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i ter-perasan.

where to buy cottage cheese and how much first.

LMAO
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I can't remmeber the price..
Giant has only 1 or two brands...not sure about Jaya Jusco...I ain't bulking so didnt really look for them biggrin.gif

I bought lots of Marigold HL milk though tongue.gif
and...Post Wholegrain Cereals

Banana Nut Crunch are niceeee


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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 03:27 PM)
yea..my friends...they are bulking

im not tongue.gif i'm just er...i also dunno. working  out for the sake of fitness biggrin.gif
1 more KG to lose then i'll be in the healthy zone! ahaha =.=
although i 'm aiming for 70KG >.< this month reached 72kg edi

damn..lose 1 single KG in 1 month...slow progress?
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dude.. i have to be rude and blunt. BMI measurement is total BULLSHIT. its how u look in the mirror and your stamina/strength level that measures yours fitness level.

not weight/height. thats pure failure to measure. pro bodybuilders are 260lbs at 5 foot 11 inch. does that make them not fit? they are in the obese level of BMI but they are fukking ripped and fukking strong like spartans.


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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 03:39 PM)
whats IMMFHO? in my mighty f***ing humble opinion?
i ter-perasan.

where to buy cottage cheese and how much first.

LMAO
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Think about it... 33.14g of fat is 298kcals.
There's so much other food i'd rather eat that 1 stupid slice of cheese that
won't even feel a thing in my tummy.

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Mahal la cottage cheese. Last time IIRC around RM8 per small tub of 2 servings @ Cold Storage.

If your vagina is yeast-infected, it will discharge a white substance that's cottage cheese-like. So IMHO cottage cheese tastes more like vagina than ON Cookies & Cream brows.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 03:46 PM)
Mother.
Think about it... 33.14g of fat is 298kcals.
There's so much other food i'd rather eat that 1 stupid slice of cheese that
won't even feel a thing in my tummy.

IMHO
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a plate of char kuey teow has 400 to 500 kcals.
Make your choice.

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 03:49 PM)
Mahal la cottage cheese. Last time IIRC around RM8 per small tub of 2 servings @ Cold Storage.

If your vagina is yeast-infected, it will discharge a white substance that's cottage cheese-like. So IMHO cottage cheese tastes more like vagina than ON Cookies & Cream brows.gif
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dude... thats gonna taste like rotten vagina....
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I still think tuna has the most wretched taste of all. Worse than raw egg.
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jones..
yea i know what you mean smile.gif


Added on August 23, 2007, 4:08 pmyea tuna can get pretty nasty in taste

..but the ones i take is either Ayam brand or TC boy

Tuna in Olive oil biggrin.gif + add onions

add afew slices of tomato, cucumber and finally wholemeal bread..yummy

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Cottage cheese is plenty here in Aus, I tried once and it taste like sh*t. But, if you spread across a sandwich, it doesn't taste that bad afterall. And yet, low fat!
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Aug 23 2007, 04:02 PM)
jones..
yea i know what you mean smile.gif


Added on August 23, 2007, 4:08 pmyea tuna can get pretty nasty in taste

..but the ones i take is either Ayam brand or TC boy

Tuna in Olive oil biggrin.gif + add onions

add afew slices of tomato, cucumber and finally wholemeal bread..yummy
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When we say tuna, we mean tuna in water (brine)...
oil is still fat there, we don't take that.
and bear in mind this is a fatloss thread, so calories count.

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 23 2007, 05:23 PM)
When we say tuna, we mean tuna in water (brine)...
oil is still fat there, we don't take that.
and bear in mind this is a fatloss thread, so calories count.

IMHO
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i remember there was an epic joke about u posting in dono which thread saying

"HEY guys i bought some healthy food today from the supermarket!! look what i got! milk, oats and tune in OLIVE OIL

LMAO
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 05:35 PM)
i remember there was an epic joke about u posting in dono which thread saying

"HEY guys i bought some healthy food today from the supermarket!! look what i got! milk, oats and tune in OLIVE OIL

LMAO
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i made a mistake, so i'm telling people now.
If i hadn't... he'd prolly think it's ok.
I'm a nice guy, but not many people thinks so.

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in your humble opinion you claim u r a nice guy.

opinion rejected laugh.gif
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For argument's sake...
technically, i'm on keto (according to syd guru)..
so i need to increase fat intake (olive oil is good fat)
see? No harm done...

and smacking olive oil tuna on bread, that ain't keto man shakehead.gif shakehead.gif


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IMHO should be put infront rather than the last word , it seems not sincere enough . laugh.gif
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cotatge cheese cost a bomb for RM9 for only 2 servings...
so i hardly take them. i'm taking syntha 6 now... another casein protein.
i think its about rm4 per one scoop serving... can't remember.. few cents cheaper, more protein and less fats than cottage cheese.

Anyway, even without casein protein, you can still get the results you want.. IMHO, casein just gonna help a lil bit.
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great, now everyone is using IMHO

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Well , I taking cheddar cheese light by kraft. Kinda high protein and low fat also.
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 23 2007, 07:41 PM)
Well , I taking cheddar cheese light by kraft. Kinda high protein and low fat also.
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high protein and high fat. i never liked cheese. the taste is sickening and it makes me feel so stuffed.

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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 23 2007, 07:41 PM)
Well , I taking cheddar cheese light by kraft. Kinda high protein and low fat also.
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u might wanna check the carbs... low fat usually = high carbs tongue.gif

IMHO of cos

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Lolx , don't care la..clean bulking maa..

LIght means low fat ady .
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Aug 23 2007, 09:15 PM)
Lolx , don't care la..clean bulking maa..

LIght means low fat ady .
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No LOL...
you ever check the label of ayam brand tuna in water?
regular one contains fewer calories than the "light" version one LOL
read the label, don't fall for marketing strategy lol

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the content facts oso dono can trust onot one...... any u guys taking wat honey?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 23 2007, 09:21 PM)
the content facts oso dono can trust onot one...... any u guys taking wat honey?
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I found out maltose can found in mak nga tong . Darn cheap , rm2 for whole tin. lolx , hope it taste good with my cooling whey. sad.gif
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pls advice in my thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry12970385

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I wonder how much of fats and protein do a fried chicken have ?
I just had KFC dinner plate with 3 chicken breast part today tongue.gif Yummy .. But i believe i gonna work harder to burn those fat mad.gif
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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Aug 23 2007, 10:57 PM)
I wonder how much of fats and protein do a fried chicken have ?
I just had KFC dinner plate with 3 chicken breast part today  tongue.gif  Yummy .. But i believe i gonna work harder to burn those fat  mad.gif
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I posted the link b4.. you can actually check it out at KFC .com.my
they got one page with nutritional values showing the average protein fat and carb contents of the respective chicken part. ie wing, drunstick, breast, thigh, keel..
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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Aug 23 2007, 10:57 PM)
I wonder how much of fats and protein do a fried chicken have ?
I just had KFC dinner plate with 3 chicken breast part today  tongue.gif  Yummy .. But i believe i gonna work harder to burn those fat  mad.gif
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If i remembered correctly, in the link Neek posted, fried chickens are approx. 350kcals, with original recipe slightly lower calories than hot & spicy. Of cos, it you ditch the skin, the calories will be significantly less cos 1g of fat = 9 kcals. Do the math.

IMHO i should know, i'm a big fried chicken fan

1pc hot & spicy chicken (with skin) is 350kcals.
1pc cheddar chesse has 33.14g fats, that's 298kcals.
And those are just calories from fat content, not counting the protein & carbs yet.
So, which one would you rather eat?

IMHO

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Not so IMHO, 1pc of cheddar cheese does not have 33.14g of fats la.
You seem to have mistaken 100g for 1pc a few post back... =)
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 23 2007, 03:37 PM)
According to USDA Nutrient Data Laboratory :

Cottage Cheese (per 100g) has 12.5g protein, 4.5g fat and 2.68g carbs.
Cheddar Cheese (per 100g) has 24.9g protein, 33.14g fat and 1.28g carbs.

So yeah, it's not the same. I can finish one small tub of cottage cheese easy peasy cause they're easy to swallow. Cant say the same as Cheddar wink.gif Btw, I stopped taking cottage cheese it cause it's very expensive!

But you can make wicked sandwiches with cheddar cheese tho  thumbup.gif
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how many grams is one slice?
doesn't matter, 1pc chicken with whole lot of protein still kicks 2, 3 slices of cheddar cheese's ass.

IMHO

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after see all yours debate...i think i better stick to my vege diet and soy milk tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Aug 24 2007, 10:11 AM)
after see all yours debate...i think i better stick to my vege diet and soy milk tongue.gif
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and grow man boobs whistling.gif whistling.gif

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soy milk will give u man boobs. AKA moobs. cuz soy contains lots of estrogen.. when a man is overflowed with estrogen.. they grow moobs and pussies.
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:23 AM)
soy milk will give u man boobs. AKA moobs. cuz soy contains lots of estrogen.. when a man is overflowed with estrogen.. they grow moobs and pussies.
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Really? The latter will really grow? blink.gif
if i have a puccy, i'd stare at myself in the mirror the whole day...
just jk

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[sarcasm]Ya just like if I take roids I'll be growing mah own d***[/sarcasm]

Not gonna happen. NEXT!
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oh shit if men take roids will they grow another d***? LOOOOOOOOL
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:49 AM)
oh shit if men take roids will they grow another d***? LOOOOOOOOL
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actually, it's the opposite,
their balls shrink to the size of peanuts tongue.gif
LOL

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where can i get anabolic steroid in malaysia?
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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:12 AM)
and grow man boobs  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

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no wonder sad.gif i m going to gym to fight off my tummy and 'boobs' sad.gif

QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:23 AM)
soy milk will give u man boobs. AKA moobs. cuz soy contains lots of estrogen.. when a man is overflowed with estrogen.. they grow moobs and pussies.
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huh...grow puccy ?.....i dun think so tongue.gif

QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:36 AM)
Really? The latter will really grow?  blink.gif
if i have a puccy, i'd stare at myself in the mirror the whole day...
just jk

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stay at ur own puccy?..i m afraid u might not hav the time...cos scientist will be bz researching u tongue.gif

QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 10:37 AM)
[sarcasm]Ya just like if I take roids I'll be growing mah own d***[/sarcasm]

Not gonna happen. NEXT!
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lol..good..u can go for bisexual~

QUOTE(jones007 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:49 AM)
oh shit if men take roids will they grow another d***? LOOOOOOOOL
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so greedy...1 d** still not enuf?
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Aug 24 2007, 10:59 AM)
lol..good..u can go for bisexual~
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QUOTE(lovexoxohug @ Aug 24 2007, 10:58 AM)
hi
where can i get anabolic steroid in malaysia?
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Don't post these type of question here...
it's illegal in msia.

it's like being a drug addict,
if police finds out, they will catch u and lock u up.
No Joke !!

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get dono wat crypto____ something steroid. this one is legal
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1 more question . If i have go to gym frequently and i suddenly need to stop for some period, will my mussle become fat ? or i will become more fat than before ?
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QUOTE(danilo5753 @ Aug 24 2007, 07:54 PM)
1 more question . If i have go to gym frequently and i suddenly need to stop for some period, will my mussle become fat ? or i will become more fat than before ?
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In case you dunno what that means... its:

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Lipomoronification
The myth where people assume that fat cells and muscle cells are made of the same structure which are interchangeable.

Scenario 1:
When you're fat, and you start lifting weights, your fat turns into muscles.

Scenario 2:
I stopped weight training and my muscles have turned into fats.

Both examples shows that people assume that the muscle cells and fat cells can change from one to another. In truth, this is not so. In scenario 1, what they will see from the results of a newer exercising lifestyle matched with a suitable diet is a reduction in bodyfat and increase in muscle mass. It is not the transformation of fat into muscles. In Scenario 2, a person who stops exercising and does NOT watch his diet (eating excessively) will experience a reduction in muscle size and an increase in fat amounts. This means that one increases as the other reduces. A muscle cell cannot transform into a fat cell and neither can a fat cell transform into a muscle cell.


sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipomoronification

so, to answer danilo5753, if you stop exercising, but then you continue to eat correctly, (enough protein to maintain muscles size and your total calories intake meets maintenance levels) your muscles should not shrink in size, and you would not put on weight/fats.

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QUOTE(King83 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:28 PM)
Remember the age old myth,
when bbers stop training, their muscle gets turned to fat?

whoever said that always kena shoot with the explanation
"muscle do not turn to fat, when u stop training, they simply shrink".

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My take on this,
To gain muscle, u eat heck alot... after years and years of training, u have grown used
to the diet. If you stop training, but you still eat like a bodybuilder, you get fat.
and that's where the myth came from.

use some logic.
Muscles enables you to move, while fats are simple energy storage.
Both are composed of different things, so how can they be one another?

IMHO
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QUOTE(Neek @ Aug 24 2007, 08:25 PM)
In case you dunno what that means... its:
sauce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipomoronification

so, to answer danilo5753, if you stop exercising, but then you continue to eat correctly, (enough protein to maintain muscles size and your total calories intake meets maintenance levels) your muscles should not shrink in size, and you would not put on weight/fats.
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Thanks mate , now i understand it already ..

So i can feel more comfortable to stop my training a bit , and eat enough protein to maintain my muscles smile.gif
Anyway , i dont really eat much if i dont do weight lifting ..coz i want my fat to be burn out .
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King,

"Brevity is the soul of wit" - Shakespeare

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can you say that in a way that even people like me can understand ? sweat.gif
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Hey guys, just wanna ask right... nowadays i drink milo + fruit as dinner. Why I choose milo is because it's free in my company's pantry, haha! But I wonder does it contain alot of sugar? Cos milo seems to be sweet drink also..

Btw, I have very little rice nowadays, with alot of dishes (vege/meat). And I swim for 1 hour almost everyday. The result.... I think I dint shake off even 1 kg for 1 week's effort. Damn!
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Aug 24 2007, 09:42 PM)
Awww you guys are so sweet to steal a quote from my siggy biggrin.gif

Neek, you're a funny monkey. Should post often wink.gif
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Damm , now is 2.02am and i cant sleep because of starving hungry.
I took my dinner too early today around 6pm and i go to bed at 1am.
Strunggled for about 30 minutes and feeling a bit of gastric , and i just take Milo with oat ( 2 tablespoon ) . Well , any solution to prevent this happen again ?
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Danilo, I usually take a cup of milk before bed. Fills that tummy up for ya smile.gif
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I didn't do any weightlifting. All I did was about 1 hour jog every evening and breakdown my meals in smaller portions and eat accordingly, and not take any fastfood like instant noodles, etc. In about 1 month I just shave about 2KG permanently. Can feel a bit different than before la...I get hungry quick. My body also toned down a bit that my friend can actually realize it.

I don't really take supper though. Usually I will just drink one or two glasses of cold water before going to sleep. But breakfast is a must for me.

But then again, I've always been like a balloon. I think different ppl might get different result.

I just need to slim down my face sweat.gif

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guys, i am curious here. cycling is a cardio activity too rite? so does tat mean tat we shud cycle very hard tat we can feel our heart beat fast or just normal cycling will do? and is hiking hill considered as a cardio?

also, is taking milo o kosong(solely milo without sugar and concentrated milk) for breakfast ok?
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
guys, i am curious here. cycling is a cardio activity too rite? so does tat mean tat we shud cycle very hard tat we can feel our heart beat fast or just normal cycling will do? and is hiking hill considered as a cardio?
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Cycling is cardio. I think you should read this article if you wanna lose those weight or fat or burn calories...
What is High Intensity Interval training

QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 23 2007, 01:08 PM)
also, is taking milo o kosong(solely milo without sugar and concentrated milk) for breakfast ok?
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I think you should consider taking something more nutritious for your breakfast. If you're taking protein inthe morning, I suggest you blend your protein shake with a heap scoop of oatmeal and milk.. its nutritious and simply delicious smile.gif


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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 23 2007, 11:33 AM)
I just need to slim down my face  sweat.gif
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I guess you're one of the millions who have cute chubby face.. its better than a sinker or a sagger though

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hmm, 6a6y6lue, i take a bowl of oatmeal and a cup of milo for breakfast. is it good enuf?
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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Sep 23 2007, 05:28 PM)
I guess you're one of the millions who have cute chubby face.. its better than a sinker or a sagger though
how do u know i'm cute? lol

anyway i see u r located at 'oil town'... miri? where?

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hmm, 6a6y6lue, i take a bowl of oatmeal and a cup of milo for breakfast. is it good enuf?
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Yup, that's good enough. I salute everybody who eat oatmeal in the morning notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 23 2007, 08:27 PM)
how do u know i'm cute? lol

anyway i see u r located at 'oil town'... miri? where?
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He he he.. Pujut area... how about you? Which gym do you go?

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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Sep 24 2007, 06:44 AM)
Yup, that's good enough. I salute everybody who eat oatmeal in the morning  notworthy.gif

He he he.. Pujut  area... how about you? Which gym do you go?
I live in Pujut 9.
I never go to gym laugh.gif

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since your photography is excellent, come and see Mr. X-trim this coming October at Imperial hotel. Take good pictures and show us your skills biggrin.gif
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interesting info there. will drop by if i'm free
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can lifting weights alone loss fat?
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any1 has any tips in hw to lose da small lapis of fat in da lower tummy? FAST way plsss...hehe

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any has any tips in hw to lose da small lapis of fat in da lower tummy? FAST way plsss...hehe
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lead a healthy life - have enough sleep, do exercise regularly, take balanced diet, no alcoholic drink, no soda drink...

or u prefer 'FAST' way? (pun intended biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(T+1 @ Sep 27 2007, 01:15 AM)
lead a healthy life - have enough sleep, do exercise regularly, take balanced diet, no alcoholic drink, no soda drink...

or u prefer 'FAST' way? (pun intended  biggrin.gif )
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hmmmm, dun look fast at all to me..lol..anyway, thx for da answer notworthy.gif
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I found this gem on what exercise to do to lose bodyfat.

QUOTE("Lyle Mcdonald")
There's absolutely no magic to having a lean midsection. You simply have to lose body fat. The best exercises for this are table pushaways (when you start to get full, push yourself away from the plate) and multiple repetitions of side to side head rotations (when someone offers you junk food say, "No thank you" while performing this exercise).
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Sep 28 2007, 02:59 AM)
I found this gem on what exercise to do to lose bodyfat.

QUOTE("Lyle Mcdonald")
There's absolutely no magic to having a lean midsection. You simply have to lose body fat. The best exercises for this are table pushaways (when you start to get full, push yourself away from the plate) and multiple repetitions of side to side head rotations (when someone offers you junk food say, "No thank you" while performing this exercise).
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i had a cup of milo and a bowl of oatmeal wif low fat milk for breakfast. is it ok?

and oh ya, if i wanna have cornflakes like coco crunch for breakfast, is it fattening?
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I still think the best way is that, to eat small portion of food 6-7 times a day. To lose body fat means to do cardio alternate days.


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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Sep 28 2007, 07:31 AM)
i had a cup of milo and a bowl of oatmeal wif low fat milk for breakfast. is it ok?
and oh ya, if i wanna have cornflakes like coco crunch for breakfast, is it fattening?
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hot cup of milo minus the sugar/sweet condense milk smile.gif
Oatmeal+low fat milk = very healthy breakfast... try add in 2 hard or half boiled egg in your breakfast menu..
once in a while, i eat coco crunch in the morning.. you don't want to eat the same meal everyday don't you... you'll get fed up of it right nod.gif

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i had milo o kosong(no sugar, no condensed milk) and i think it is sweet already.(maybe i added too many spoons of milo. hmm.gif) is this fattening?

and yeah, the oatmeal wif milk is sweet too imho, again maybe it is me who added too many spoons of low fat milk powders. the ratio is like 5 spoons of oatmeals to 4 spoons of milk powder. is it ok or shud i cut down on the milk powder?

hmm, 2 hard boiled eggs or half boiled eggs? shud i take the yolks too bcos having 2 eggs everyday might be too much. and if wanna have it wif kicap(forgot it in english, mind to enlighten me?) and pepper, is it ok?

i heard tat if we must have cornflakes, we shud have those normal cornflakes,not those coco crunch bcos it is too sweet. is it true?

and yeah, 6a6y6lue, having those every morning maybe too much for me after some time, so still trying to figure out what meal tat is still suitable for me, but then again, i know oatmeal is a healthy food and i can usually serve it within 10 minutes, so it is still the best meal for me atm i think.
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kinda need help... sweat.gif

1) im 20 this year, 160cm and 70kg (felt short and fat... sweat.gif) my BMI is 27.3
2) i eat a lot... depends on time and tummy... tongue.gif i dont eat veggie as it makes me puke... sweat.gif
3) doesnt really do any exercise now... but play futsal and football at least 1/2 times per week...

so how do i lose some fat?? since my tummy grows bigger now... tongue.gif i do need some health advice... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Sep 28 2007, 02:21 PM)
kinda need help... sweat.gif

1) im 20 this year, 160cm and 70kg (felt short and fat... sweat.gif) my BMI is 27.3
2) i eat a lot... depends on time and tummy... tongue.gif i dont eat veggie as it makes me puke...  sweat.gif
3) doesnt really do any exercise now... but play futsal and football at least 1/2 times per week...

so how do i lose some fat?? since my tummy grows bigger now... tongue.gif i do need some health advice... notworthy.gif
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1 fitness trainer told me once.... two most important thing to lose weight......

1. diet
2. running

one a piece of advice? judging by da way u type "i eat a lot", i assume tat u shud be really eating A LOT.... so u mz cut tat dwn.... n seriously look after wat u eat... no chaw kor tuey... no pasar malam food... no deep fried.... no burger... no soft drinks!!

and running!! at least 20 to 30 minutes a day..

bottom line..da way u eat is da most important!
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try reading up abit
http://www.intense-workout.com/diet.html

Try not to eat anything heavy 3 hours before u sleep.

also exercise regularly. If you really want..try High Intensive Interval Training instead of jogging 1 hour. HIIT cardio..make a search on google. You basically start of by slow jog..then fast..then slow then fast. For proper explaination tongue.gif search abit haha

http://www.intense-workout.com/cardio.html

When i 1st started off..I read that site almost everyday. I aint pro but it got me started jogging the morning. some might say jogging with an empty stomache in the morning is bad....but..I've been doing it. so far no complains as I manage to lower down body fats.

Didnt measure my body fat% with caliper but...was 80kg...currently about 72kg.


Added on September 28, 2007, 2:00 pmoh..and also tongue.gif
I couldn't really lose the tummy until i started working out with weights. I bought a pair of 10KG dumbbells.

so I do cardio on certain days and weights on another day.

as they say..more muscle = burns more fat

I do sit ups with a 5KG dumbbell. I know sounds little but its enough tension compared to doing a normal sit up.

its working tongue.gif so ..hehe

Lower down body fat % + working out ...your abs and all will be more visible

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My advice is to do High Intensity Interval Training. Anybody who wants to lose weight, fat or what so ever you call that stubborn thing on your body that you hate so much, HIITs is the best.. Forget about doing weight lifting first, focus on one thing at a time. Do it for a 3 weeks and gradually add in your weight training. Shawn Philips wrote an article on how to lose those pound in Muscle Media ~ HIIT and Run... Do google search and you'll find it.
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oh yea..when i first tried HIIT...just afew mins..sweat like mad edi...
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One of the best cardio leh... still sweating even after you stop doing it..
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Before this I dd jogging, increasing the time and round... so far I've managed to los 25kg with workout + diet.

Then recently I just started HIIT after hearing all the benefits about it! Oh gosh, last time I can jog/walk for 8 rounds or 1 hour... nw 3-4 rounds of HIIT almost dead liao hahaha! but I'm still doing it! many fats around tummy to burn while doing abs workout haha
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To: 6a6y6lue

i had milo o kosong(no sugar, no condensed milk) and i think it is sweet already.(maybe i added too many spoons of milo. hmm.gif) is this fattening?

and yeah, the oatmeal wif milk is sweet too imho, again maybe it is me who added too many spoons of low fat milk powders. the ratio is like 5 spoons of oatmeals to 4 spoons of milk powder. is it ok or shud i cut down on the milk powder?

hmm, 2 hard boiled eggs or half boiled eggs? shud i take the yolks too bcos having 2 eggs everyday might be too much. and if wanna have it wif kicap(forgot it in english, mind to enlighten me?) and pepper, is it ok?

i heard tat if we must have cornflakes, we shud have those normal cornflakes,not those coco crunch bcos it is too sweet. is it true?

and yeah, 6a6y6lue, having those every morning maybe too much for me after some time, so still trying to figure out what meal tat is still suitable for me, but then again, i know oatmeal is a healthy food and i can usually serve it within 10 minutes, so it is still the best meal for me atm i think.

and curious here, is banana suitable to be a snack bcos i heard it is high in carb?

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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Sep 30 2007, 06:49 PM)
One of the best cardio leh... still sweating even after you stop doing it..
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can give da link for hiit pls? seems affective from all da comments

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Oct 1 2007, 03:57 AM)
can give da link for hiit pls? seems affective from all da comments
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is it tis link tat u guyd r talking about? http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp wow, looks pretty attractive...will try it out tmr!!! wooohooo rclxm9.gif
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Yup you got that link right. My inspiration... Follow the table given and you won't think of HIIT a hard program to follow.. Its simple and easy...
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QUOTE(cy6ex @ Oct 1 2007, 08:18 AM)
Yup you got that link right. My inspiration... Follow the table given and you won't think of HIIT a hard program to follow.. Its simple and easy...
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so here's 1 more effective HIIT practitioner? how's da result? does it really burn fats tat fast as it claims? work perfectly for anyone at all?
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so here's 1 more effective HIIT practitioner? how's da result? does it really burn fats tat fast as it claims? work perfectly for anyone at all?
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dude, HIIT works...but you also gotta be consistent and watch what you eat too.

I've done HIIT..and it worked....how long did it take? I dont remember hehe sorry tongue.gif

From http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit_table.asp...table 2 is something what I do..although some websites might be different


I slow jog 2 mins then run for 20 sec then jog another 20 sec....When they say sprint...dont la buta buta run at your maximum speed. Just increase your speed from jogging..may be 75% or 80% ...then slow down to 50% or something..


good luck biggrin.gif

but as long as you do Cardio exercises..its all good
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Oct 1 2007, 10:37 AM)
dude, HIIT works...but you also gotta be consistent and watch what you eat too.

I've done HIIT..and it worked....how long did it take? I dont remember hehe sorry tongue.gif

From http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit_table.asp...table 2 is something what I do..although some websites might be different
I slow jog 2 mins then run for 20 sec then jog another 20 sec....When they say sprint...dont la buta buta run at your maximum speed. Just increase your speed from jogging..may be 75% or 80% ...then slow down to 50% or something..
good luck biggrin.gif

but as long as you do Cardio exercises..its all good
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I like what you write... That is absolutely true. I did table #2 also. Mine is 1 minutes jog and 30 seconds sprints. i start off with 5 muntes and now doing it for 20 minutes. I just love the way it helps me with my weight loss routine. Btw, woman tend to have slow metabolism rate and we have stubborn fat, so to lose weight is very hard. But when doing HIIT, you can never be wrong. From 60kg last July, now I'm 54kg..

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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Oct 1 2007, 11:12 AM)
I like what you write... That is absolutely true. I did table #2 also. Mine is 1 minutes job and 30 seconds sprints. i start off with 5 muntes and now doing it for 20 minutes. I just love the way it helps me with my weight loss routine. Btw, woman tend to have slow metabolism rate and we have stubborn fat, so to lose weight is very hard. But when doing HIIT, you can never be wrong. From 60kg last July, now I'm 54kg..
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wow, tat's a lot of weight lose.... is tat u in da pic? u look fit thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
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wa HIIT macam very effective leh...
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Read all about it... Everyone give a good comment bout HIIT.... I think I should learn from 6a6y6lue..... tongue.gif
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wow, tat's a lot of weight lose.... is tat u in da pic? u look fit  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Thanks for the compliment. tongue.gif

Those who think that they're oversize, obese or fat.. don't worry, take Hydroxycut Hardcore and do HIIT.. walahhhh.... the energy that you get from HH will make HIIT a simple and easy hardcore cardio..
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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Oct 1 2007, 06:50 PM)
Thanks for the compliment.  tongue.gif

Those who think that they're oversize, obese or fat.. don't worry, take Hydroxycut Hardcore and do HIIT.. walahhhh.... the energy that you get from HH will make HIIT a simple and easy hardcore cardio..
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hw much is 1 hydroxy hardcore? wat's da use of it? drool.gif drool.gif
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hw much is 1 hydroxy hardcore? wat's da use of it? drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(bhorng @ Oct 1 2007, 06:14 PM)
Read all about it... Everyone give a good comment bout HIIT.... I think I should learn from 6a6y6lue..... tongue.gif
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Thanks bhorng, I'm just telling the truth about what is good and what's not. You should give it a try..

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jst nw i did da hiit on da bike...i hit it out vr vr vr hard!!! god dammit.... almost vomit... was in da toilet waiting for my puke to come out...luckily ntg happens eventually...hahaha.... guess i did it wif my stomach empty... wont be a wise thing to do... hmmm
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the HIIT...first they say when u sprint..ur heart beat rate shd be 80-90% so calculate my age 26..my max heart beat shd be 194 then 80% shd be ard 180bpm...

then i try this HIIT on a bike...i try to reach 170bpm is very difficult..the max i can reach is only 160++~...wondering how to push to 180++?
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Doki Doki,

If you can't cycle any faster, increase the resistance in order to reach the desired heart rate.
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Oct 2 2007, 11:27 PM)
Doki Doki,

If you can't cycle any faster, increase the resistance in order to reach the desired heart rate.
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no no... i can cycle 1...trust me... i jst think i have an empty stomach today... sux ...
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I did HIIT by jogging/sprinting too... 3rd time doing... so damn tiring! haha.. couldn't push furter, gave up after about 15-20mins haha
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All this 30 sec spilts of jogging and running susah on the threadmill... cos the thread mill takes about 8 seconds to accelerate/slow down to the desired speed...so a whole bunch of time will be lost in the middle...
maybe i'll try the 60 second splits.

was previously on a 4 min jog/ 1 min sprint HIIT. (so far only done 3 times this way.)

Also that website say do HIIT in the morning fasted... sure ah? won't burn muscles ke? muscles are very precious to me... i dun have much of it...
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cuz fats are easier to lose on morning ...... about da loss of muscles,...i m nt sure about that then..
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He he he.. dats good. don't push yourself too hard, try doing it 10 minutes and next week do it for 15 - 20 minutes.. slowly increase la.
QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 3 2007, 12:27 AM)
I did HIIT by jogging/sprinting too... 3rd time doing... so damn tiring! haha.. couldn't push furter, gave up after about 15-20mins haha
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QUOTE(Neek @ Oct 3 2007, 01:31 AM)
All this 30 sec spilts of jogging and running susah on the threadmill... cos the thread mill takes about 8 seconds to accelerate/slow down to the desired speed...so a whole bunch of time will be lost in the middle...
maybe i'll try the 60 second splits.

was previously on a 4 min jog/ 1 min sprint HIIT. (so far only done 3 times this way.)

Also that website say do HIIT in the morning fasted... sure ah? won't burn muscles ke? muscles are very precious to me... i dun have much of it...
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Erm...
Hi blush.gif. I read most of the pages, rules and et cetera.
Hope you girls & guys can help me out.
Hope I did not do anything wrong by posting here sad.gif.
If I did, I sincerely apologize sad.gif .
Really new at this health and fitness thing... sad.gif

1) Your age, Current Weight and Height, and if possible BMI and Fat%

According to the physical examination I took from California Fitness
[They were having promotion.. So did it for free]
Erm.
My age : 19
Weight : 46.6kg sweat.gif
Height : 157cm
Muscle Mass : 33.1kg
Body Fat Mass : 11kg sweat.gif
Percentage Body Fat% : 23.6%
BMI : 18.9kg/m^2
BMR : 1329.4kcal

2) Your Diet

sweat.gif I am very lost in this area.. Haha...
Breakfast : Eggs, Apple and a cup of warm skim milk.
Lunch : Erm depends... Most of the time, 2 Apples, 200ml-250ml milk, And 1 bread...
Sometimes eat tuna or ... go for economy rice .... just ... no rice... but with veggies and fishies.
Dinner : Apples and milk. If not apples... its other types of fruits ... like papaya or banana~! sweat.gif

3) How often you exercise and what do you do?

I jog in the evening ... for around 30 minutes or skip rope about 500 times each day.
During weekends, I jog in the morning 30 minutes and evening 30 minutes.
sweat.gif My plan so simple .. lol.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

Erm.. Mainly I want to lose my body fat + tone up. Especially around the thigh and butt area ... Rawr.
However I heard from someone, I should only lose my body fat then only tone up..?
So I shouldn't do any weight training or all that .... ? So I did not implement any of those into my exercise plan.
I also heard that jogging for the first 10-15 minutes will be just a waste of time..?
Erm, if so... sweat.gif What to do then?

Erm, I am not really sure of the facts that I heard... So, that is why ask help from you experts here.
Cause... the more I read, the more confused I get... Sounds complex to me...

Really sorry, if I did anything wrong that violates the rules or et cetera.
Thank you very much for your time wub.gif .
I appreciate it very much. wub.gif .


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QUOTE(TwistedInsanity @ Oct 3 2007, 11:58 PM)
Erm...
Hi  blush.gif. I read most of the pages, rules and et cetera.
Hope you girls & guys can help me out.
Hope I did not do anything wrong by posting here  sad.gif.
If I did, I sincerely apologize  sad.gif .
Really new at this health and fitness thing...  sad.gif

1) Your age, Current Weight and Height, and if possible BMI and Fat%

According to the physical examination I took from California Fitness
[They were having promotion.. So did it for free]
Erm.
My age : 19
Weight : 46.6kg  sweat.gif
Height : 157cm
Muscle Mass : 33.1kg
Body Fat Mass : 11kg sweat.gif
Percentage Body Fat% : 23.6%
BMI : 18.9kg/m^2
BMR : 1329.4kcal

2) Your Diet

sweat.gif  I am very lost in this area.. Haha...
Breakfast : Eggs, Apple and a cup of warm skim milk.
Lunch : Erm depends... Most of the time, 2 Apples, 200ml-250ml milk, And 1 bread...
          Sometimes eat tuna or ... go for economy rice .... just ... no rice... but with veggies and fishies.
Dinner : Apples and milk. If not apples... its other types of fruits ... like papaya or banana~! sweat.gif

3) How often you exercise and what do you do?

I jog in the evening ... for around 30 minutes or skip rope about 500 times each day.
During weekends, I jog in the morning 30 minutes and evening 30 minutes.
sweat.gif My plan so simple .. lol....  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Erm.. Mainly I want to lose my body fat + tone up. Especially around the thigh and butt area ... Rawr.
However I heard from someone, I should only lose my body fat then only tone up..?
So I shouldn't do any weight training or all that .... ? So I did not implement any of those into my exercise plan.
I also heard that jogging for the first 10-15 minutes will be just a waste of time..?
Erm, if so...  sweat.gif What to do then?

Erm, I am not really sure of the facts that I heard... So, that is why ask help from you experts here.
Cause... the more I read, the more confused I get... Sounds complex to me...

Really sorry, if I did anything wrong that violates the rules or et cetera.
Thank you very much for your time  wub.gif .
I appreciate it very much.  wub.gif .
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Welcome and you're not at the wrong place... NOW...
What's your goal actually? To get rid of fat, get lean or just to maintain???? you have to be more specific..
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@ Twisted Insanity!

hahaha! I got you there! i believe I know who you are tongue.gif lalalaa..

owh! you're so thin la! sleep.gif" sheesh.. aih.. haha..

30 mins a day, everyday! wow... perhaps, depends on ur intensity of jogging lor.
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cant believe u can survice with that diet
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omg..the dinner .. o.O"
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QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 4 2007, 07:49 AM)
@ Twisted Insanity!

hahaha! I got you there! i believe I know who you are tongue.gif lalalaa..

owh! you're so thin la! sleep.gif" sheesh.. aih.. haha..

30 mins a day, everyday! wow... perhaps, depends on ur intensity of jogging lor.
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Idol of our class d... Become so fit XD.
Next time must make my nickname more ........ >.> .................. Discrete.
Rawr.
Where got thin ...
My family keep calling me fat. ._."

@ Jones and metalfreak
Sure can de .... If you are eating one of your fav foods...
And I love fruits lol sweat.gif .
But not sure if Im doing right?
Yeah sweat.gif sweat.gif
Sorry sweat.gif .

@6a6y6lue

My goal is to lose body fat . The counsellor of the California Fitness told me my body fat is more than an average person... He said it was 9 or 10 kgs .... or something... But I at 11kg .... sweat.gif
And also to tone my body? sweat.gif
So lost >.<"
Sorry and thanks.

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screw counsellor and shit from california fitness.

make it clear, u r trying to lose weight or lose fat?

if u wana lose fat THEN EAT. if u wana lose weight hten continue
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 4 2007, 04:52 PM)
screw counsellor and shit from california fitness.

make it clear, u r trying to lose weight or lose fat?

if u wana lose fat THEN EAT. if u wana lose weight hten continue
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Ok, I can sense I am annoying you in some way...
Sorry... sad.gif



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Well, if you wanna lose fat, you have to maintain the muscles in your body while losing fats. Muscle need food to survive.No food = muscle die.

Therefore, by maintaining your muscles you will only lose fats. This is what you probably should want. If you wanna lose weight and look like a anoroxic(sp?) do continue what you are doing.


p.s. You still need to exercise.
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are there such food that can burn fat? jst askin....
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1) your age, current weight and height, and if possible BMI and fat%
i'm 20 years old now.. 100kg at 180cm. I dunno my BMI and fat% though T_T


2) your diet
please help me comment on a better way to lose fat. I just seem to gain weight all the time but my diet is seriously unhealthy. About 3 biscuits a day (oatmeal) for about 3-4 days. I'll lose about 3kg in 4days.


3) how often you exercise and what do you do
During my diet i exercise by jogging about 2.5kilometers twice a day. Somehow my parents have warned me about the unhealthyness of this.. i wonder why?




any1 please give me your 2 cents thanks
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FOODS THAT BURN FAT

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Foods that are rich in Vitamin C have the properties of acting as fat burners. Limes, lemons, oranges, grapefruit and vegetables like, broccoli, cabbage, celery, carrot, watermelon and apple fall into this category. Broccoli and cabbage contain high quantities of calcium and vitamin C, and is also fibrous. What vitamin C does it dilutes the fat and thus renders it less effective. It also becomes easier for such fat to be flushed out of the system.

Pectin is found in apples and mot fresh fruits. This substance is said to be able to limit the fat that is absorbed by the cells. In addition to this , pectin helps in the absorption of watery substances. The reaction of the watery substances on the cells makes it release fat deposits.

Breakfast foods like Oatmeal, skimmed milk and whole grain cereal and even spicy foods containing peppers are considered as foods that burn fat. Oats are a good source of vitamins, minerals and fiber. The capsaicin present in peppers induces the body to produce more stress hormones which in turn revs the metabolic rate burning more calories in the process.

Soy is the wonder product, which has chemicals, which help fat from being deposited and also helps to act on the fat deposits in the body by breaking them down. Soybeans enhance the body's ability to do away with fat.

The juice of garlic or the oil of garlic has the same protective property towards body cells and catalyses the action of getting rid of body fat.

Black Tea, coffee, and green tea also perform the same function. Consuming these foods and doing exercise would increase the metabolic rate of the body. Since the metabolism is boosted and the foods themselves are deficit in calories, the energy and fat that is stored in the body help in the digestion process. In short such foods take longer to digest and require more energy to break them down. These foods are often termed as negative calorie foods. Such foods often contain a lot of water, high percentage of fiber and are low in fat.


source: http://www.indianchild.com/Recipes/foods-that-burn-fat.htm
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After reading the article from vivian. Tempting to try green tea + whey ~!
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U noe there have been talking about HIIT or rather interval training fast for fat loss.

The fastest is 9km/h right? or was it 9mph? +I can't remember..

Jz nw I on threadmill the first time, 13mph seems so slow to me!!!! I guess I've been doing above 16mph normally when I jog, yes, I sprint like those 100m runner...

No wonder I get exhausted easily.. hahaha! and I guess 13mph is like my normal speed of jogging... sleep.gif"
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QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 4 2007, 10:10 PM)
U noe there have been talking about HIIT or rather interval training fast for fat loss.

The fastest is 9km/h right? or was it 9mph? +I can't remember..

Jz nw I on threadmill the first time, 13mph seems so slow to me!!!! I guess I've been doing above 16mph normally when I jog, yes, I sprint like those 100m runner...

No wonder I get exhausted easily.. hahaha! and I guess 13mph is like my normal speed of jogging... sleep.gif"
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i dunno but others.. but when i jog.. i set it to 6.1m/s.. go convert
sometimes i increase it to 6.9m/s.. but the range is somewhere around that laa...

btw dude, its a treadmill not threadmill tongue.gif
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wow...nice 1 by vivien.... so vitamin c can act as fat burner!! woohooo... gonna eat a lot of those!! thx for da post vivien!!
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QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 4 2007, 10:10 PM)
U noe there have been talking about HIIT or rather interval training fast for fat loss.

The fastest is 9km/h right? or was it 9mph? +I can't remember..

Jz nw I on threadmill the first time, 13mph seems so slow to me!!!! I guess I've been doing above 16mph normally when I jog, yes, I sprint like those 100m runner...

No wonder I get exhausted easily.. hahaha! and I guess 13mph is like my normal speed of jogging... sleep.gif"
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To determine the speed on the treadmill that you need to set for HIIT, choose the speeds which are pushing you hard but you can keep up for 10-15 mins.

I usually do LISS(Low intensity steady state) cardio for 30 minutes. Yesterday I decided to try HIIT on treadmill.

Warm up 3 minutes,
sprint 30 sec jog 1 min (6 sets)
cool down 3 min.
total=15 minutes

Is the routine ok?



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The following list is taken from CME (Chemical Muscle Enhancement) book.

The following is a list of items that were reported to significantly have altered fat to muscle ratios quickly. Any one or combination of these items has been successfully utilized to reduce fat stores and shredded most anyone in 28-42 day unless they were a blimp.

1.Any IGF-1 producing androgen such as Testosterone Propionate.

2.Any Testosterone stacked with any anti-estrogen (some added Primobolan Depot for more kick).

3.200 MCG of T-4 or 50 MCG of T-3 Two-days on-Two days off.

4.Clenbuterol 80-120 MCG daily, 2 days on alternated with 50 MG of Ephedrine /350 MG of Caffeine.

5.6 MG of DNP per KG of bodyweight daily for 5-10 days.

6.6 G of Linoleic Acid and 2 G of Linolenic Acid daily (Flax Seed Oil).

7.1 teaspoon of Virgin Olive Oil daily.

8.2 I.U. of GH 2-4 times daily.

9.Replace equal amount of carbohydrate calories with MCT oil (Up to 3 TBS daily).

10.Ingest 2 G of protein per pound of bodyweight daily.

11.Eat broccoli 5-6 times daily.

12.Eat 4-5 OZ. Of salmon every 3rd day.

13.Take 4 G of Glutamine per 25 LB of bodyweight daily.

14.Drink 2 gallons of water daily.

15.Take 5 G of Vitamin-C in the morning.

16.Take 20 G of Amino Acid tablets per 100 LBS of bodyweight daily
(A 250 LB bodybuilder ingested 50G daily)

17.Eat only what is on this list.

18.Have lots of sex, the best cardio there is.

19.1 MG or Arimidex and 40 MG of Nolvadex daily, 2 days on-2 days off.

20.Smile more.

21.250 MG of Cytadren 2 x d, 2 days on-2 days off.

22.(Drop water weight) 25-50 MG of Spironothiazid daily for 3 days.

23.25 ML of Glycerin in 8 OZ water in AM and before bed.

24.Trade carbohydrate calories for protein calories gram for gram.


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vit C can burn fat? really? rclxm9.gif

is the vit C tablets works?
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QUOTE(~ ViViaN ~ @ Oct 4 2007, 11:11 PM)
To determine the speed on the treadmill that you need to set for HIIT, choose the speeds which are pushing you hard but you can keep up for 10-15 mins.

I usually do LISS(Low intensity steady state) cardio for 30 minutes. Yesterday I decided to try HIIT on treadmill.

Warm up 3 minutes,
sprint 30 sec jog 1 min (6 sets)
cool down 3 min.
total=15 minutes

Is the routine ok?
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i think warm up 3 mins is not enuf...
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lots of sex is da best cardio? hmmm...
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QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 4 2007, 11:10 PM)
U noe there have been talking about HIIT or rather interval training fast for fat loss.
The fastest is 9km/h right? or was it 9mph? +I can't remember..
Jz nw I on threadmill the first time, 13mph seems so slow to me!!!! I guess I've been doing above 16mph normally when I jog, yes, I sprint like those 100m runner...
No wonder I get exhausted easily.. hahaha! and I guess 13mph is like my normal speed of jogging... sleep.gif"
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Different treadmill have different speed... so pace yourself and know your speed. smile.gif
Also, I know it look pretty weird doing it when everyone at the gym looking at you... but who cares right tongue.gif

QUOTE(dokidoki @ Oct 5 2007, 07:07 PM)
i think warm up 3 mins is not enuf...
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Try 10 minutes of jog at a slow pace for your warm up and do some stretching before proceed with your HIIT program.

@ TwistedInsanity
I don't think you're to be categorized as "Fat"... I have two links for you: Body Mass Index Scale Calculator or Height & Weight Chart. You are 5'1" and your weight is 102 lbs. Hmmm.. you are already super slim already smile.gif To tone up, I think you should carry some weight. By doing so, you'll have a nice toned body instead of flabby ones. Hope this help..

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BMI is flawed, it'll tell you bodybuilders are obese and fat people who have no muscle mass are at their perfect weight.
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QUOTE(kvys2000 @ Oct 4 2007, 10:10 PM)
U noe there have been talking about HIIT or rather interval training fast for fat loss.

The fastest is 9km/h right? or was it 9mph? +I can't remember..

Jz nw I on threadmill the first time, 13mph seems so slow to me!!!! I guess I've been doing above 16mph normally when I jog, yes, I sprint like those 100m runner...

No wonder I get exhausted easily.. hahaha! and I guess 13mph is like my normal speed of jogging... sleep.gif"
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The "fastest" speed is actually different for everyone because each person's fitness level is different. so you might still be in a fit condition so can go faster than whats been said here.

btw, 16mph is about 26.7km/h. thats fast dude!
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Running at 26.7km/h and knocking someone down, confirm die wei. lol.
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post Oct 6 2007, 08:18 PM

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haha... no la..

I did the 13mph for 15mins... actually still dn feel tired..

the 16mph thingy? Normally I jogged around that but can't go really beyond 4-5 mins... it's not that I feel tired but my legs cant stand it anymore... hehe..

I guess, that's sprint? 16mph is exhausting... but after I do it for intervals last time... as in after around then walk for a round and repeat... perhaps, that's why I lose weight very fast last time hehe
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Running at 26.7km/h and knocking someone down, confirm die wei. lol.
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who is running tat fast? siao!! using tis speed to do cardio?

well, i cant use threadmil cuz my knee is injured badly since last year... need operation to get it healed.... rm20k shocking.gif blink.gif sweat.gif
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Hi guys,

Urgently needing some advice. To start off, I will answer the 3 questions posted;
1) 22, 178 cm tall 122 kg sad.gif BMI=39.7 cry.gif
2) Diet. To make things short, previously what I've consumed is all the bad food you can find. And numerous of meals in a day.

I've seen doctor last week, and she diagnosed me metabolic syndrome x. Saying that I am facing pre-diabetes symptoms. So, eventually I've been controlling my diet these few days. Excluding carbohydrate stuff like rice, noodles and etc. I only take breast meat and veggie for now. Oh yeah, and some fiber bread too. Still, I'm torn between what to eat sometimes. One doc say I can't noodles the other said different thing. It has been headache for me.

Eventually, I've also signed up gym(Menara Axis-Fitness First) and been working out since. Mainly focuses on Cardio stuff. However, I am rather blur of what and how I should be doing it. In order to burn more fat-increasing my metabolic rate-that is. Kinda hoping to find someone from my gym to guide me, as in I don't really have money for trainer. Just a rough guidances would be good too.

So, if you have any comments on the dietary and workout i should do, I would appreciate it.


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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Feb 13 2008, 01:28 AM)
Hi guys,

Urgently needing some advice. To start off, I will answer the 3 questions posted;
1) 22, 178 cm tall 122 kg sad.gif  BMI=39.7  cry.gif
2) Diet. To make things short, previously what I've consumed is all the bad food you can find. And numerous of meals in a day.

I've seen doctor last week, and she diagnosed me metabolic syndrome x. Saying that I am facing pre-diabetes symptoms. So, eventually I've been controlling my diet these few days. Excluding carbohydrate stuff like rice, noodles and etc. I only take breast meat and veggie for now. Oh yeah, and some fiber bread too. Still, I'm torn between what to eat sometimes. One doc say I can't noodles the other said different thing. It has been headache for me.

Eventually, I've also signed up gym(Menara Axis-Fitness First) and been working out since. Mainly focuses on Cardio stuff. However, I am rather blur of what and how I should be doing it. In order to burn more fat-increasing my metabolic rate-that is. Kinda hoping to find someone from my gym to guide me, as in I don't really have money for trainer. Just a rough guidances would be good too.

So, if you have any comments on the dietary and workout i should do, I would appreciate it.
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for cardio try doing bicycle at the meantime for 20minit at least.. this will avoid huge pressure on your knee and ankle compare to running on treadmill.. then start walk a lot..

do weight training as well.. it will help burn more fat and calorie than cardio.. when i mean weight is u use the barbell, dumbell not the machine one..

and one more thing, go and read LYN members workout journal.. especially SydG's , Ryansxs's, canopies's, danillo's journal and so on who already achieved tremendous result from their workout..

here is the link to the member workout journal Click here
and good luck yaa..

This post has been edited by presario9: Feb 13 2008, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:28 AM)
I've seen doctor last week, and she diagnosed me metabolic syndrome x. Saying that I am facing pre-diabetes symptoms. So, eventually I've been controlling my diet these few days. Excluding carbohydrate stuff like rice, noodles and etc. I only take breast meat and veggie for now. Oh yeah, and some fiber bread too. Still, I'm torn between what to eat sometimes. One doc say I can't noodles the other said different thing. It has been headache for me.

Eventually, I've also signed up gym(Menara Axis-Fitness First) and been working out since. Mainly focuses on Cardio stuff. However, I am rather blur of what and how I should be doing it. In order to burn more fat-increasing my metabolic rate-that is. Kinda hoping to find someone from my gym to guide me, as in I don't really have money for trainer. Just a rough guidances would be good too.

So, if you have any comments on the dietary and workout i should do, I would appreciate it.
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You know what... everybody have problems.. that you've got to know. I know somebody whois skinny, weight 45kg for 160cm and she have bad cholesterol. The doctors say this and that but it didn't help her at all. Sometimes the best thing to do is to control your diet and do some workout. Dont force yourself if you can't do something you're not used to.

Excluding carbo in your diet?? Ask yourself, Can you really do that?? Yes you can eat carbo but in small portions. Don't over indulge, small portion of food few times in a day would help you. To burn fat, do cardio especially HIIT.. but to burn more stubborn fat, do include weight lifting in your training.

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QUOTE(presario9 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:09 AM)
for cardio try doing bicycle at the meantime for 20minit at least.. this will avoid huge pressure on your knee and ankle compare to running on treadmill.. then start walk a lot..

do weight training as well.. it will help burn more fat and calorie than cardio.. when i mean weight is u use the barbell, dumbell not the machine one..

and one more thing, go and read LYN members workout journal.. especially SydG's , Ryansxs's, canopies's, danillo's journal and so on who already achieved tremendous result from their workout..

here is the link to the member workout journal Click here
and good luck yaa..
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Barbell and dumbell? shocking.gif I never done any of those. Certainly don't really know how. Mind to guide me?


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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Feb 13 2008, 12:26 PM)
Barbell and dumbell? shocking.gif I never done any of those. Certainly don't really know how. Mind to guide me?
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Go bodybuilding.com... tons of exercise for beginners, immediate and advance bodybuilders... smile.gif
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QUOTE(6a6y6lue @ Feb 14 2008, 10:03 AM)
Go bodybuilding.com... tons of exercise for beginners, immediate and advance bodybuilders...  smile.gif
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Should i be starting weight training already? A lot of people been advicing me not to. I'm confused. blink.gif
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Hi, I'm kinda "new" to this thread ... i've read the first few pages here. So, here's some info regarding me.

age: 23
weight: 55kg (morning) and 56kg (nite)
height: 163cm
BMI: no idea
fat%: no idea

Diet: Morning (nothing or gardenia jagung roll) Lunch (mixed rice or plain rolled oats) Dinner (nothing or rolled oats)
Exercise: Almost everyday except if i'm busy but minimum 4 times per week. I do pilates for dummies from CD (basics and intermediate), cardio fat burner CD (by kathy smith), and body twister (sometimes if i'm not tired from pilates and cardio workout).

I used to be at 48kg 3 years ago and my weight hi-jacked to 63kg after i started paktuh laugh.gif. But after i broke up with him, I started doing exercises for the past couple of months or so and i managed to lose weight to 55kg now coz I sked kenot find bf if too fat laugh.gif. I used to be on size 31/32 previously when i was 63kg and i'm down to size 28/29 now.

Jz wanna ask if my diet is orite and oh yeah, i drink tonnes of plain water everyday. If i eat out, mostly i'll order either ice lemon tea (with no sugar) or jz plain iced chinese tea. And wanna ask, how can I make my stomach flat?? Why is it that my face is still so round and my tummy is still so round?? How to burn those fat at my underarms?? I have huge underarms. My thighs and butt are smaller now after i did the exercises above and now my lower legs have muscles laugh.gif .. i think it's due to the stretching from pilates .. keke.

By the way, after doing the cardio dance, usually i'll be totally worn out .. can i straight away drink lotsa plain water or do i haf to wait for a while before i start drinking plain water ?

Any of ur advices will be highly appreciated smile.gif.

This post has been edited by Syrian: Feb 15 2008, 06:08 PM
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something to ask, i read the thread from the first page,

do you all mention tuna in water?

is that same as "tuna in water in tin" where sale in supermarket?

but i found out that 2 whole grain bread with tuna can't fill my stomach....

so any suggestion?
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QUOTE(Syrian @ Feb 14 2008, 06:57 PM)
Hi, I'm kinda "new" to this thread ... i've read the first few pages here.  So, here's some info regarding me.

age: 23
weight: 55kg (morning) and 56kg (nite)
height: 163cm
BMI: no idea
fat%: no idea

Diet: Morning (nothing or gardenia jagung roll)  Lunch (mixed rice or plain rolled oats) Dinner (nothing or rolled oats)
Exercise: Almost everyday except if i'm busy but minimum 4 times per week.  I do pilates for dummies from CD (basics and intermediate), cardio fat burner CD (by kathy smith), and body twister (sometimes if i'm not tired from pilates and cardio workout). 

I used to be at 48kg 3 years ago and my weight hi-jacked to 63kg after i started paktuh laugh.gif.  But after i broke up with him, I started doing exercises for the past couple of months or so and i managed to lose weight to 55kg now coz I sked kenot find bf if too fat laugh.gif.  I used to be on size 31/32 previously when i was 63kg and i'm down to size 28/29 now.

Jz wanna ask if my diet is orite and oh yeah, i drink tonnes of plain water everyday.  If i eat out, mostly i'll order either ice lemon tea (with no sugar) or jz plain iced chinese tea.  And wanna ask, how can I make my stomach flat?? Why is it that my face is still so round and my tummy is still so round?? How to burn those fat at my underarms?? I have huge underarms.  My thighs and butt are smaller now after i did the exercises above and now my lower legs have muscles laugh.gif .. i think it's due to the stretching from pilates .. keke. 

By the way, after doing the cardio dance, usually i'll be totally worn out .. can i straight away drink lotsa plain water or do i haf to wait for a while before i start drinking plain water ?

Any of ur advices will be highly appreciated smile.gif.
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Dear Syrian,

It's not recommended to skip meals as a form of weight reduction. Kindly google on yoyo effect and understand the concept.

Instead of skipping meals, u should add the amount of meals to at least 5-6 a day. This is to reduce the amount u eat each day, prevent from feeling hungry and increase your metabolism to burn more fats. Make sure u eat breakfast within 30 mins after you wake up.

Stay away from carbs ,processed food and take more protein instead. Eat stuffs like oats, brocolli,lettuce apple, orange, low fat diary products and soya products. Green tea is good for burning fat as well.

Cheers ~!
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QUOTE(N0eL @ Feb 23 2008, 06:55 PM)
Dear Syrian,

It's not recommended to skip meals as a form of weight reduction. Kindly google on yoyo effect and understand the concept.

Instead of skipping meals, u should add the amount of meals to at least 5-6 a day. This is to reduce the amount u eat each day, prevent from feeling hungry and increase your metabolism to burn more fats. Make sure u eat breakfast within 30 mins after you wake up.

Stay away from carbs ,processed food and take more protein instead. Eat stuffs like oats, brocolli,lettuce  apple, orange, low fat diary products and soya products. Green tea is good for burning fat as well.

Cheers ~!
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Make sure u eat breakfast within 30 mins after you wake up.

but normally suggest that jogging in the morning with empty stomach, right?

if 30min per session, could it possible that take breakfast within 30 mins after we wake up?

another ques, do the whole grain bread consider high carbo?

This post has been edited by loonsave: Feb 23 2008, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(kiew @ Apr 22 2007, 04:53 PM)
ok, here it goes...some comment on it,
1. age=23, height=181cm, weight=80kg, bmi is 24.4
2. diet ah....just breakfast....sandwich and teh , lunch is just those mix rice, and cheong fun, dinner is home cook....but mostly is meat, egg and some vege, sometime will eat supper since cannot tahan, will buy some bread and add tuna.....
3. i only play some sport when i have time, few times a week....
any comment?
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here's mine
1.age 20, height 178cm , weight 80kg , bmi duno but sure overweight
2.current diet .. normally sleep until 12pm .. so no breakfast , 80% of the time no lunch { sumtime ate few fiber biscuit } , dinner around 6pm {1 plate of rice + meat + vege} , trying my best not to eat supper .. {90% of the time no supper } ...
3. exercise ? very seldom ... 1 week 2 or 3 time 100sit-ups and some push up ..

COMMENT PLS ...
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hello! I've learned alot from all ur posts this far.. biggrin.gif I have a question tho, If i'm looking purely at fat loss, my aim is simply to look slimmer. Would it be helpful to take whey protein powder shakes or is it more effective if i go on meal replacement shakes.. I'm just worried tht protein powder, BCAA etc contribute to muscle building as those are body building suplements and dats not sumthing I want.

Whats a recommendable healthy diet/supplements if i'm looking at weight loss only. Do educate me if i've got sum kinda misconception! thanks heaps!
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If you're serious about health in general and not just about weight loss, drink as much plain water as you can the first thing you wake up, and go for cardio jogging. this also helps with constipation.

caffeine intake is also great for weight loss but be careful of taking too much over an extended period of time because it drains calcium from your body.

main things you gotta remember is exercise, water and controlling food intake. Do exercise as much as you can, drink as much water as you can and eat less.
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One question though, I've just started weight training (to burn more fat) and find myself easily burn out at even low weight.

How should i move from there?
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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:29 AM)
One question though, I've just started weight training (to burn more fat) and find myself easily burn out at even low weight.

How should i move from there?
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why you want to move?
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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:29 AM)
One question though, I've just started weight training (to burn more fat) and find myself easily burn out at even low weight.

How should i move from there?
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just stick to the current weight until you're strong. there's not shortcuts. Just keep doing it although it's hard. Take rests in between if you really cant make it but try not to give yourself excuses.
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Hi I need help too. I'm 17 coming 18. Approx 180cm. Weigh 89kgs. Therefore BMI = 27.4. I play badminton at a quite high level. 4 times a week. I go to the gym too,but the thing is,i want to lose weight,and gain a bit of muscle. I heard that if we gain muscle we'll gain weight,and if we want to lose weight,we'll need to lose some muscle? Very confused :S

Im targeting to reach 80kgs. I dont really care about the BMI as my muscles weights quite a lot too.
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Joined Fitness 1st month ago recommended by my fren. Normally I will start my day in gym doing cardio for 30mins and another 30mins for weight lifting. I start with my weight 97.6Kg (179cm) and after a month managed to reduce to 93Kg. My fren really inspire me with him lose 15kg in 3 months. He started with 98kg and now 83kg. My target is to reach 80kg smile.gif
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I need to lose as much body fat before the body fat test end of this month.

I am so sick of my muscles playing hide and seek with me haha....

* Please note that I am not planning to lose weight, just body fat, weight = fat + lean body mass.
Losing lean body mass under any circumstances is a bad thing

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QUOTE(Neon_86 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:29 AM)
One question though, I've just started weight training (to burn more fat) and find myself easily burn out at even low weight.

How should i move from there?
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then start at even lower weight and then gradually progress from there.
form is much more important than weight
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As they say...

its not the quantity of the weight, but the QUALITY of the movement


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does soy drinks makes us fatter ? i read here they say it does but i'm not sure if he just being sarcastic

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...15204638AAacjec
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huhu...
i need to make my tummy smaller...
anyone can help me?
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QUOTE(macho_siot @ Sep 2 2008, 08:18 AM)
huhu...
i need to make my tummy smaller...
anyone can help me?
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I think you should consume less carbohydrate or oily food.More fruit and vegetables.Maybe you can exercise by using hula hoop biggrin.gif Just a suggestion only whistling.gif

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im also trying to slim down...my waist expanded to 35" from 32" in 6 months lol...i'll post progress in about 2 months time

 

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