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Bodybuilding Thread V9, Discussion and disputes
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Didnt notice it's a new thread. Keep going strong
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Been bulking for a while now, gained 2-3 kg but my waistline also increased, having a hard time fitting into my jeans already if i continue like this.
Been eating clean all the while Do u guys think i should go lean for a while to reduce my waistline then only continje bulking? |
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jun 29 2011, 12:01 AM) Been bulking for a while now, gained 2-3 kg but my waistline also increased, having a hard time fitting into my jeans already if i continue like this. hahaBeen eating clean all the while Do u guys think i should go lean for a while to reduce my waistline then only continje bulking?  if clean bulk macam mana waistline boleh increase bro? look at the mirror and u'll find the answer to ur question |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 29 2011, 12:57 AM) haha Already had a tummy before i started bulking, its inevitable to gain fats while in the bulking phase isnt it,if clean bulk macam mana waistline boleh increase bro? look at the mirror and u'll find the answer to ur question Shoulders And arms are growing but looks like the additional fats are going to the waistline |
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ive gained 15kg...n my waist increase 1inch only
i can fit old pants, at waist no prob but stuck at quad n hams XD |
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jun 29 2011, 01:01 AM) Been bulking for a while now, gained 2-3 kg but my waistline also increased, having a hard time fitting into my jeans already if i continue like this. GO heavy bruthaBeen eating clean all the while Do u guys think i should go lean for a while to reduce my waistline then only continje bulking? |
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68kg to 73kg
can still fit into the slim fit pants when i was 68kg... |
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 29 2011, 02:38 AM) ive gained 15kg...n my waist increase 1inch only Holy Hell 15?i can fit old pants, at waist no prob but stuck at quad n hams XD |
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hey guys....
i got a pretty moderate body, by means medium sized. i do have tummy a bit. should i lose weight first then continue on work out or should i do both? im 69 kg, 172.5 cm height. and how to lose those fat? i only knew that it can be done through cardio and diet (i might be wrong).  |
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hrm lets see,
68kg to 78kg and still wearing the same jeans. reached 80kgs a while ago and it felt tight. now back to normal. |
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 29 2011, 02:38 AM) ive gained 15kg...n my waist increase 1inch only how long for that 15kg?i can fit old pants, at waist no prob but stuck at quad n hams XD |
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you use something extra or what for 15kg weight increase with only 1 inch increase in waist . . . . pix please ....
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 29 2011, 02:38 AM) ive gained 15kg...n my waist increase 1inch only picture of ur progress?i can fit old pants, at waist no prob but stuck at quad n hams XD |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 29 2011, 03:19 PM) you use something extra or what for 15kg weight increase with only 1 inch increase in waist . . . . pix please .... QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 29 2011, 03:32 PM) picture of ur progress? Ya mau tengok gambar |
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hahaha, not as muscular as u guys think la...
 come buy supps cod, can see me  i used to swim,run, play squash, sports a lot. b4 start gym was 59kg...bf 12% then bulk2 till 80kg wit bf 18%, took a year i think. last month or two cutting, down to 72kg. now 75~77kg, every week my weight up n down by 2kg...havent measure my bf yet  knowledge about meal, nutrition & supplements are crucial This post has been edited by speedoom: Jun 29 2011, 05:41 PM |
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 29 2011, 05:36 PM) hahaha, not as muscular as u guys think la... Next time sure get supps from u d. How do u count ur bf? come buy supps cod, can see me i used to swim,run, play squash, sports a lot. b4 start gym was 59kg...bf 12% then bulk2 till 80kg wit bf 18%, took a year i think. last month or two cutting, down to 72kg. now 75~77kg, every week my weight up n down by 2kg...havent measure my bf yet knowledge about meal, nutrition & supplements are crucial |
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jun 29 2011, 06:15 PM) Next time sure get supps from u d. How do u count ur bf? Go to most fitness shops, they can do it for you free-of-charge. But if you wanna do it yourself, can try getting one of those body fat calipers. |
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Jun 29 2011, 09:54 PM
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my gym got biospace inbody analysis machine, pretty accurate i guess..
next time i go check, ill post the result sheet. |
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in before do you even lift
squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro? |
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Jun 30 2011, 07:59 PM
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food poisoning ruined my day yesterday
so today, i packed on carbs for shoulder tonite carbs like rice, and rice and bread butter pudding HAHAHAHAHA |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM) in before do you even lift what tok u? i cant brain squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro?  |
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QUOTE(jekwalid @ Jun 30 2011, 08:16 PM) what tok u? i cant brain LOL!me neither |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM) in before do you even lift Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro? |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM) in before do you even lift i dunno what ur saying here, but u definitely dunnit a belt for a 60kg squat.squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro? |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM) in before do you even lift waffak language u speaking bro?squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro? |
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Jun 30 2011, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 30 2011, 09:43 PM) waffak language u speaking bro? misc language |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 30 2011, 12:16 PM) in before do you even lift Kopitiam is that way, bro. >>>squatting 60KG nao, my weight is 65KG around next week i'll go bodyweight squats Creatine and gym belt should i buy them? in before waffak 60kg no buy gym belt u mad bro? |
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Hey all big brother,talking abt gym belt...
Do we need it? Only when we squat really heavy,rite? But heavy is quite relative, so how do we judge it? And the belt people wear when they bench press also the same belt? Or it's not? Hmm... |
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 1 2011, 12:16 PM) Hey all big brother,talking abt gym belt... I'll only wear it when I'm trying to break PR.Do we need it? Only when we squat really heavy,rite? But heavy is quite relative, so how do we judge it? And the belt people wear when they bench press also the same belt? Or it's not? Hmm... |
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 1 2011, 12:16 PM) Hey all big brother,talking abt gym belt... sure if u need to do heavy liftings. its the same belt,to prevent from hurting the spine.Do we need it? Only when we squat really heavy,rite? But heavy is quite relative, so how do we judge it? And the belt people wear when they bench press also the same belt? Or it's not? Hmm... |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 30 2011, 09:43 PM) waffak language u speaking bro? like thisim squatting bodyweight, i have no belt, should i have one or just wait till u go 80KG something btw im 64KG Added on July 1, 2011, 2:21 pm QUOTE(Aztec @ Jun 30 2011, 10:36 PM) misc language IN BEFORE ZYZZ!This post has been edited by adix4: Jul 1 2011, 02:21 PM |
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up to u really, i'm squating slightly more than u, i'm slightly heavier than u but dun think i need belt just yet
mayb i should when i squat >100kg. |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 1 2011, 02:36 PM) up to u really, i'm squating slightly more than u, i'm slightly heavier than u but dun think i need belt just yet mayb i should when i squat >100kg. btw you use creatine brahh? |
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no. y?
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 1 2011, 02:20 PM) like this I only use it for squat that more than 170lbs, typically my last two sets of five.im squatting bodyweight, i have no belt, should i have one or just wait till u go 80KG something btw im 64KG Added on July 1, 2011, 2:21 pm IN BEFORE ZYZZ! |
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What are the forumers recommendations for beginners wanting to gain mass ?
Went from a former fatty at 85kg 30%BF (1.68m) and after trying for a year (with multiple fail in btw  ) , manage to drop down to 65kg 18%BF. Being a skinnyfat now i was thinking off adding massRead a lot of recommendation for Starting Strength but judging / asking a lot of the buff guys at gyms , most of em do a split. Thoughts on this ? |
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check the sticky threads.
there's 1 on routine and u can find from beginner to advanced level |
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QUOTE(potemkin @ Jul 1 2011, 03:29 PM) What are the forumers recommendations for beginners wanting to gain mass ? Stronglifts or Starting strength... and add Pull ups on day A and Dips on Day BWent from a former fatty at 85kg 30%BF (1.68m) and after trying for a year (with multiple fail in btw ) , manage to drop down to 65kg 18%BF. Being a skinnyfat now i was thinking off adding massRead a lot of recommendation for Starting Strength but judging / asking a lot of the buff guys at gyms , most of em do a split. Thoughts on this ? btw last time i 80KG now 64KG, 2 months only i cut? auschwitz diet i did lmao btw gonna go 58KG and then bulking hari raya aidilfitri, come at me bro This post has been edited by adix4: Jul 1 2011, 05:44 PM |
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2 months ?
Share your diet mebbe i cut some more |
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Hi guys, is it a must for your muscles to feel sore the next few days as an indication that you've worked them hard? I do feel the soreness in some parts, but some other parts wont feel sore. I'm just wondering if Im not hitting those parts hard enough.
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jul 2 2011, 06:47 PM) Hi guys, is it a must for your muscles to feel sore the next few days as an indication that you've worked them hard? I do feel the soreness in some parts, but some other parts wont feel sore. I'm just wondering if Im not hitting those parts hard enough. its normal, not tat u r not hitting the parts hard enough. its jus tat the lack of focus at the certain part u r training. |
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jul 2 2011, 06:47 PM) Hi guys, is it a must for your muscles to feel sore the next few days as an indication that you've worked them hard? I do feel the soreness in some parts, but some other parts wont feel sore. I'm just wondering if Im not hitting those parts hard enough. not a must . |
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Measure progress by what you see in the mirror, not by pain.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jul 2 2011, 07:25 PM) Measure progress by what you see in the mirror, not by pain. ...or sweat in the gym |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 2 2011, 07:55 PM) ...or sweat in the gym Any specification for using "sweat"? |
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since i have this craving tomorrow, i might have nasi lemak ayam goreng and telur for breakfast
but i have planned for meal tomorrow since sunday i don't workout Breakfast -Nasi Lemak Ayam Goreng + Telur -Teh ais? Lunch -Protein shake -One apple -sayur... sayur everywhere Dinrar -Sayur... sayur everywhere good idea? cheat meal, but still want to do calorie deficit btw my maintenance is around 1300 Added on July 2, 2011, 9:22 pm QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 2 2011, 07:55 PM) ...or sweat in the gym or how many pull ups you can do  This post has been edited by adix4: Jul 2 2011, 09:22 PM |
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hey guys...
just wondering. how long did u guys take in order to lose the tummy, i mean the fat at that area? |
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 2 2011, 09:54 PM) hey guys... depends on your body sizejust wondering. how long did u guys take in order to lose the tummy, i mean the fat at that area? if obese memang lama laa if overweight, took me around 2 months |
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my body is normal. haish. this part is damn stubborn.
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i dont have motivation....
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 2 2011, 10:19 PM) my body is normal. haish. this part is damn stubborn. calorie deficit |
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 2 2011, 10:19 PM) my body is normal. haish. this part is damn stubborn. Do you do cardio, and how's your diet like? |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 2 2011, 10:47 PM) calorie deficit this is quite noob. but how did you calculate the calorie intake and the calorie burned? |
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 2 2011, 09:19 PM) since i have this craving tomorrow, i might have nasi lemak ayam goreng and telur for breakfast ur not eating frequently enough, nor are you eating enough protein.but i have planned for meal tomorrow since sunday i don't workout Breakfast -Nasi Lemak Ayam Goreng + Telur -Teh ais? Lunch -Protein shake -One apple -sayur... sayur everywhere Dinrar -Sayur... sayur everywhere good idea? cheat meal, but still want to do calorie deficit btw my maintenance is around 1300 Added on July 2, 2011, 9:22 pm or how many pull ups you can do Your diet might probably work to lose weight ( fat , muscles, .....) but its not useful in bodybuilding where they care about maintaining as much muscle mass as possible and lose bodyfat when on a "cut" Im not really a calorie counting person, but 1300 maintenance is kinda low, and if your "cutting" , ull probably dip below 1000? that doesnt sound right.... but im not an expert in this division, maybe someone else can clarify this. i think someone who has maintenance of 1300 calories is already underweight? why would u need to cut even more? |
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to all Scivation fans, Mr Lobliner is no longer with you
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 3 2011, 06:28 PM) lol..zyzz is trying too hard these daysmirin' his body when he was at his peak though..dream body right there as im his height inb4zyzznuthugger |
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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 3 2011, 01:58 AM) to all Scivation fans, Mr Lobliner is no longer with you ohChow he used to answer all my questions real quick loved scivation! |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 3 2011, 11:50 PM) oh not sure why he left, hes the founder lolhe used to answer all my questions real quick loved scivation! Chow |
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QUOTE(bata @ Jul 4 2011, 12:40 AM) not sure why he left, hes the founder lol tu lahChow tapi biasa founders being ousted / kicked / disowned by own company biasa board dah tak suke die lah tu |
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jul 2 2011, 10:36 PM) i dont have motivation.... plastic surgeryi want nice body but damn lazy... |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 3 2011, 11:07 PM) lol..zyzz is trying too hard these days in beforemirin' his body when he was at his peak though..dream body right there as im his height inb4zyzznuthugger i'm about babolimp's height feels bad man |
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hi all sifus,i have something in mind..i just read up some of the material on the internet..there are several different technique such as some for maximum strength some for muscle mass ..isn't when u can lift heavy weight that means u r building muscle mass ?
here is the link ..help me with this all sifus http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/weigh...gprograms2.html http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/weigh...gprograms3.html |
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Hurt my knee doing squats for the first time. My right knee cant be bent, otherwise it hurts like hell.
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:46 PM) hi all sifus,i have something in mind..i just read up some of the material on the internet..there are several different technique such as some for maximum strength some for muscle mass ..isn't when u can lift heavy weight that means u r building muscle mass ? er..muscle mass increases when you go through hypertrophy. eg. you walk in the jungle and a tiger came out chasing you (for the lolz) and you actually out run it and you "tear" those small muscles when you were running and you go through hypertrophy where your body repair the muscle and build that lil extra more to help you out run that tiger again next time. years and years of running away from faster and faster tigers ends up in more muscle mass.here is the link ..help me with this all sifus http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/weigh...gprograms2.html http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/weigh...gprograms3.html strength is not just about how much slow oxidative muscle (red muscle) that you have, it's about how strong your joints, grips, tendons, ligaments etc etc are. that's why you can see many thin but strong guys generally the more strength > lift heavier weight > more efficient work out for hypertrophy > easier to build muscle mass. that's why you can see people who keep playing around with dumbbells don't gain much. your right hand won't gain much muscle from all those fapping you do.  |
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QUOTE(Hammond Tan @ Jul 6 2011, 01:35 AM) er..muscle mass increases when you go through hypertrophy. eg. you walk in the jungle and a tiger came out chasing you (for the lolz) and you actually out run it and you "tear" those small muscles when you were running and you go through hypertrophy where your body repair the muscle and build that lil extra more to help you out run that tiger again next time. years and years of running away from faster and faster tigers ends up in more muscle mass. thanks alot bro .really helped me understand better.strength is not just about how much slow oxidative muscle (red muscle) that you have, it's about how strong your joints, grips, tendons, ligaments etc etc are. that's why you can see many thin but strong guys generally the more strength > lift heavier weight > more efficient work out for hypertrophy > easier to build muscle mass. that's why you can see people who keep playing around with dumbbells don't gain much. your right hand won't gain much muscle from all those fapping you do. |
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Jul 6 2011, 04:08 PM
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generally, fat guys are stronger ...
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 6 2011, 04:08 PM) generally, fat guys are stronger ... How come im not strong T.T |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 6 2011, 04:36 PM) How come im not strong T.T You are not fat enough!Must be like me >95kgs! This post has been edited by pedro: Jul 6 2011, 04:39 PM |
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I was 105 kg >.< but now not that much anymore...
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63KG now! 3 more KG before desired weight, or maybe 5 if want to get shredded like FFUUUARRKKKKK
btw i'm training beastskills right now wanna train sikit sikit as when im going back to UIA this september, and no more gym till sem break! ( uni gym sucks, 30 ppl waiting for bench press ) btw TRX, worth it or not for bodyweight? |
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Jul 6 2011, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 6 2011, 07:04 PM) btw TRX, worth it or not for bodyweight? Worth it!You can do some amazingly hard workouts with that. |
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Jul 6 2011, 07:20 PM
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i found that i cannot grow much with bodyweight exercise ..... now I start to go back to gym ....
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Jul 6 2011, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 6 2011, 07:09 PM) Worth it! maybe on 58KG im just going to do maintenanceYou can do some amazingly hard workouts with that. btw define hard pedro? Added on July 6, 2011, 7:27 pm QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 6 2011, 07:20 PM) i found that i cannot grow much with bodyweight exercise ..... now I start to go back to gym .... meh, cuba buat weighted pull ups ke that's why i want to train beastskills, so i can do all those stuff without relying gym This post has been edited by adix4: Jul 6 2011, 07:27 PM |
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Jul 6 2011, 07:34 PM
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i tot just bodyweight. Not additional weight ...
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Jul 6 2011, 07:37 PM
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it should be muscle + fat. not fat. power lifting scene has seen many leaner athlete in recent years who can do big lifts just as their 'fat' counterpart. people need to eat a lot to grow fast and it's better to eat more than to eat less than you need so power lifters generally carries a certain amount of fat. imagine if you weight 150kg now with 25kg fat, if you shed 20kg away wouldn't your squat increase cause you don't have to lift those f***ing fat on the way up? ...
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Jul 7 2011, 03:30 PM
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guys,
anyone of you taking beef everyday? |
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Jul 7 2011, 04:07 PM
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i can't eat beef.
ask me if i'm eating chicken or eggs everyday :b |
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Jul 7 2011, 04:50 PM
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I've been taking chicken all day long + eggs + veges for sure...
Just wonder if some one take beef because kinda expensive.. usually, i'll take one whole chicken breast per day.. so 2 piece of chicken breast per day for lunch... Just try to save more.. |
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Jul 7 2011, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 7 2011, 03:30 PM) guys, If i can and if i can afford to eat it everyday i would. Beef itself is more calorie dense than chicken or fish, good for bulking and red meat is good for brain development.anyone of you taking beef everyday? |
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Jul 7 2011, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 7 2011, 04:50 PM) I've been taking chicken all day long + eggs + veges for sure... i tinggal with parents Just wonder if some one take beef because kinda expensive.. usually, i'll take one whole chicken breast per day.. so 2 piece of chicken breast per day for lunch... Just try to save more.. so unlimited stock of daging, ikan, ayam and veggiestoo bad Kuantan don't have Cottage Cheese, love them Added on July 7, 2011, 7:14 pmbtw Seniors this monday i'm going to go overseas, flight 1.30 pm but moving from kuantan early in the morning ( driving ) so what should i have for breakfast? i feel like having cheat meal in the plane This post has been edited by adix4: Jul 7 2011, 07:14 PM |
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Jul 7 2011, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 7 2011, 07:13 PM) i tinggal with parents Oatmeal + a shake would be decent if you're pressed for time. And prepare a sandwich (ie with a good helping of meat and veges) or something to bring with you to eat during the drive, since it'll be a long one. (I'm assuming you're coming down to KLIA) so unlimited stock of daging, ikan, ayam and veggiestoo bad Kuantan don't have Cottage Cheese, love them Added on July 7, 2011, 7:14 pmbtw Seniors this monday i'm going to go overseas, flight 1.30 pm but moving from kuantan early in the morning ( driving ) so what should i have for breakfast? i feel like having cheat meal in the plane |
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Jul 7 2011, 08:24 PM
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 Prepared by lovely GF |
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Jul 7 2011, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 7 2011, 08:24 PM) Prepared by lovely GF  |
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 7 2011, 08:24 PM) Prepared by lovely GF I just came back from gym on an empty stomach to an empty fridge...and you post this! |
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Jul 7 2011, 10:22 PM
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anyone using 'thin' comfortable straps here?
harbinger straps seem abit 'thick' to me |
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Jul 8 2011, 01:22 PM
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2 kg tenderloin rm 40 wet market.
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Jul 8 2011, 03:59 PM
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beef is very expensive. For my daily protein requirement, i usually eat chicken breast and supplement with whey protein ..... cannot stomach too much chicken breast .... so bored with chicken breast ....
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Jul 8 2011, 04:13 PM
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i like chicken breast
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Jul 8 2011, 04:16 PM
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Cant have a better source of creatine/test-booster from the red meat esp beef. The only concern from me is the risk of colon cancer from the daily beefing.
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Jul 8 2011, 08:03 PM
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anyone, thin straps to recommend?
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Jul 8 2011, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 8 2011, 08:03 PM) anyone, thin straps to recommend? Best straps I ever used were made from seat belts,its thin,flexible and very strong!Downside is you gotta make them yourself! If not then get those! |
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Jul 8 2011, 08:28 PM
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dont u think leather wont last as long as the material from seat belts?
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Jul 8 2011, 08:30 PM
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So far those from Maxx have served pretty well, never snapped.
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Jul 8 2011, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 8 2011, 08:28 PM) dont u think leather wont last as long as the material from seat belts? I do think the seat belt will last longer!QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 8 2011, 08:30 PM) So far those from Maxx have served pretty well, never snapped. It won't snap but its thick to use for people with smaller hands! |
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Jul 8 2011, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 8 2011, 08:31 PM) I do think the seat belt will last longer! yea tats y i'm looking for the thinner version...It won't snap but its thick to use for people with smaller hands! |
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Jul 8 2011, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 8 2011, 08:34 PM) yea tats y i'm looking for the thinner version... APT has a nylon one but people hate it as it cuts into your hand >400lbsDIY mate! Its simple! |
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Jul 8 2011, 08:43 PM
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eh btw, has anyone seen DY's old vid.
his straps r white. don't see any white version these days and it looks thin as well |
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Jul 10 2011, 03:10 AM
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hi sifus,
am new in BB pls comment on my journal whether am I on the right track I dont wanna be big jz wanna be ripped http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry43720113 |
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Jul 10 2011, 04:11 AM
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i don't understand why everyone must say "i don't wanna be big just wanna be ripped" "i don't wanna get bear body just wanna have male model look" "i don't wanna be huge i just want beach body"
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Jul 10 2011, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE(Hammond Tan @ Jul 10 2011, 04:11 AM) i don't understand why everyone must say "i don't wanna be big just wanna be ripped" "i don't wanna get bear body just wanna have male model look" "i don't wanna be huge i just want beach body" They don't wanna accidentally get bigger than Arnold. |
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Jul 10 2011, 08:15 AM
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if you want to get ripped. Easy do 1 hour cardio a day 6 times a week .. and eat lesser than your body need. Maybe 1600kcal for a guy and 1200kcal for a girl.
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Jul 10 2011, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(Hammond Tan @ Jul 10 2011, 04:11 AM) i don't understand why everyone must say "i don't wanna be big just wanna be ripped" "i don't wanna get bear body just wanna have male model look" "i don't wanna be huge i just want beach body" Well ones can never bee too sure. Shit happens. Like Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler, they just overtrained for a few times they turned into that size. Accident do occur. So smart people take precautions, they tell themselves everyday so they dont end up tragically like Coleman. |
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Jul 10 2011, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Hammond Tan @ Jul 10 2011, 04:11 AM) i don't understand why everyone must say "i don't wanna be big just wanna be ripped" "i don't wanna get bear body just wanna have male model look" "i don't wanna be huge i just want beach body" 1. train2. eat all the crap under the sun 3.???? 4. ifbb pro 5 months of hearing that while working at cf.... all from sticks who ended up not coming to the gym after a month... i guess they got the male model look and didnt want to overdo it.......  |
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Jul 10 2011, 01:09 PM
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actually i don't think i can get into jay cutler size easily....
to me i jz wanna maintain my current size especially my arm... currently it's 14.5inch at my height 168cm i think that if it goes any bigger it will look awkward.. Added on July 10, 2011, 1:11 pmbtw, i am jz asking for opinions.... not asking for sum bashing whn i say i dun wanna be big... thx This post has been edited by ChinHong86: Jul 10 2011, 01:11 PM |
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Jul 10 2011, 01:22 PM
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accidentally haha i loled so hard
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Jul 10 2011, 01:25 PM
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u got bashed bcoz ur sentence underestimated the effort needed to get big. u made it sound as though it's easy.
and u r not the first newbie to say so. imagine every now and then someone comes in and say: 'i want this model look/beach body/ripped body, but dun want too big' i feel u r lucky u get bashed here and not being bashed on the spot by asking the same question straight to a real bodybuilder face to face. |
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Jul 10 2011, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 10 2011, 01:25 PM) u got bashed bcoz ur sentence underestimated the effort needed to get big. u made it sound as though it's easy. i dont think all newbies are fully indulge/ aim to get big(powerlifter/ pro builder).and u r not the first newbie to say so. imagine every now and then someone comes in and say: 'i want this model look/beach body/ripped body, but dun want too big' i feel u r lucky u get bashed here and not being bashed on the spot by asking the same question straight to a real bodybuilder face to face. maybe they just express it the wrong way. they should say, "i wanna have a ripped/ toned body". then maybe you guys will not shoot them too much. |
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Jul 10 2011, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 10 2011, 01:25 PM) u got bashed bcoz ur sentence underestimated the effort needed to get big. u made it sound as though it's easy. he's right. in fact if you would have used the search function, you would realize every now and then this kind of statement has been posted and ppl start to get sarcastic/angry about it.and u r not the first newbie to say so. imagine every now and then someone comes in and say: 'i want this model look/beach body/ripped body, but dun want too big' i feel u r lucky u get bashed here and not being bashed on the spot by asking the same question straight to a real bodybuilder face to face. i have heard the same kind of post since 2008 quite often enough... |
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Jul 10 2011, 02:26 PM
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let me clarify myself
the purpose i am saying i don't wanna be big it's becoz got to do wif my diet my current diet is considered as eating lil for sum ppl here so i add the 'i dun wanna be big' to support my diet and i did say i wanna get ripped.... I never said that getting big like those ifbb pros will only take 5 months? i understand those ppl take years and years of training and pls understand I am not into this for only 5 months i am looking of a lifestyle change for long term my current BF% i think it's too high so i wanna reduce it 1st bulk up later my ideal weight wud b at arnd 68kg with <10%BF, cz my height is only at 168cm thx for the bashings, i shall becareful wif the word big nxt time |
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Jul 10 2011, 03:18 PM
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HVT or HIT?? I've tried to do somewhat high volume and got DOMS. HIT i didnt feel much after doing it
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Jul 10 2011, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Jul 10 2011, 02:26 PM) let me clarify myself Depends on your definition of ripped I guess!the purpose i am saying i don't wanna be big it's becoz got to do wif my diet my current diet is considered as eating lil for sum ppl here so i add the 'i dun wanna be big' to support my diet and i did say i wanna get ripped.... I never said that getting big like those ifbb pros will only take 5 months? i understand those ppl take years and years of training and pls understand I am not into this for only 5 months i am looking of a lifestyle change for long term my current BF% i think it's too high so i wanna reduce it 1st bulk up later my ideal weight wud b at arnd 68kg with <10%BF, cz my height is only at 168cm thx for the bashings, i shall becareful wif the word big nxt time Is it: This  OR This  |
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Jul 10 2011, 03:52 PM
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1st one boss...
but slightly smaller cz not as tall.. |
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Jul 10 2011, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Jul 10 2011, 03:52 PM) 1st one boss... That's why we are harsh bro,to get even a smaller body than that it requires a lot of food and hard work!but slightly smaller cz not as tall.. I know you get it now but people tend to think its easy to be as big as Randy,matter of fact is its not! |
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Jul 10 2011, 04:02 PM
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Guys, when we are working middle/lower back, how exactly should we feel? Should we be feeling soreness during the workout? The thing now is the feel I'm getting is different from other body part, it feels like doing it wrongly..
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Jul 10 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Jul 10 2011, 03:52 PM) 1st one boss... i wo 5 years and im not even there....cheers but slightly smaller cz not as tall.. Chow |
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Jul 10 2011, 05:49 PM
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Yeah.. I don't expect to get it within a year.. But I believe foundation is important right? So as I start I wanna seek advice from fellow forumers, whether am I on the right track a not
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Jul 10 2011, 06:46 PM
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Interested to see how pic 1 looks like but the link broken already...?
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Jul 10 2011, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(SticH @ Jul 10 2011, 04:02 PM) Guys, when we are working middle/lower back, how exactly should we feel? Should we be feeling soreness during the workout? The thing now is the feel I'm getting is different from other body part, it feels like doing it wrongly.. what exercise did you do for ur middle/lower back? Soreness during workout? No. Doms, Most definitely, I can barely wear my own shoes last week because my back was so tight. |
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Jul 10 2011, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Jul 10 2011, 06:46 PM) Interested to see how pic 1 looks like but the link broken already...? Still looks fine to me,maybe my cache thoWorking for others?? |
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Jul 10 2011, 07:17 PM
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ChinHong. I think you should cut till your ideal BMI and fat % .. then you start to bulk when you find that cutting is becoming hard. But bulk cleanly so it's easier to cut to shred.
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Jul 10 2011, 07:33 PM
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Similar to this!
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Jul 10 2011, 11:15 PM
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 this will be more appropriate to describe my target as the height is nearer Added on July 10, 2011, 11:20 pm QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 10 2011, 08:17 PM) ChinHong. I think you should cut till your ideal BMI and fat % .. then you start to bulk when you find that cutting is becoming hard. But bulk cleanly so it's easier to cut to shred. I think currently i am cutting dwn my BF%...Added on July 10, 2011, 7:17 pmi dont see the first pix ... gradually and slowly... 2 weeks ago was around 25% last week 24% been 1 week plus din measure d... This post has been edited by ChinHong86: Jul 11 2011, 12:22 AM |
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Jul 11 2011, 12:45 AM
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do you guys think caveman diet works in cutting? i mean we're not supposed to eat anything in the day and then eat 1 large serving at night. is it possible to absorb all those proteins?
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Jul 11 2011, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 11 2011, 12:45 AM) do you guys think caveman diet works in cutting? i mean we're not supposed to eat anything in the day and then eat 1 large serving at night. is it possible to absorb all those proteins? I know someone doing this,its working perfectly,but you gotta be mentally strong.Its not easy. |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:24 AM
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wow, starvation mode during the day...
hmm, unless u r not working, it's not quite practical i would say. |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 11 2011, 08:24 AM) wow, starvation mode during the day... The guy I know works morning till 5,hits the gym and then eats!hmm, unless u r not working, it's not quite practical i would say. He still benched 350Lbs last week. |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:34 AM
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eh this sounds like fasting for the muslims
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Jul 11 2011, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 11 2011, 08:34 AM) eh this sounds like fasting for the muslims Muslims eat in the morning also,he doesn't. |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:52 AM
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gosh, one meal a day?
serious sh*t? |
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Jul 11 2011, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 11 2011, 08:52 AM) gosh, one meal a day? Yeah and its a guy who used to eat 6-7 meals a day,I dunno how is he surviving.serious sh*t? His 1 meal is high in cals tho. If I go 3 hrs without food I'll be half dead already. |
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Jul 11 2011, 09:12 AM
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i'll b eating ppl around me if i dun get food after 12 hours
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Jul 11 2011, 02:08 PM
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im a college student so maybe i could try it, thanks guys
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Jul 11 2011, 05:19 PM
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proving bodybuilders are athletic too. of course the second video is way more recent. |
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Jul 11 2011, 07:46 PM
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way more bigger on recent one LOL
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Jul 12 2011, 07:50 AM
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For me this is simply amazing, to be so big at 240pound (pure muscle, haha), yet can do muscle up... . Makes my muscle up is non impressive at all... respect! |
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Jul 12 2011, 08:09 AM
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Just a general question , May I know if the most of you work towards a body type that you want or do you just work out because you wanna work out?
i've never been a fan of saying, I want this body or that body, I mean ,yes I do set a goal for myself saying I want to lose the midsection fat, build up more definition on my pecs, more shoulders development etc etc. Maybe it's just me , but even if I tell myself, I want a body like so and so, in the back of my head, I know that even if I'm ripped to shreds I wouldn't look like so and so, NOT because I don't work hard enough towards it, but rather, because everyone's built different. Different insertion points, muscle attachments , muscle bellies and so forth. But then again, like I said, maybe it's just me. How about you guys? |
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Jul 12 2011, 08:46 AM
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to me, i will work till i have the body tat will make me say 'tat should do it!' and then i will maintain.
still a long way to go... |
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Jul 12 2011, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 11 2011, 05:19 PM) proving bodybuilders are athletic too. of course the second video is way more recent. |
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Jul 12 2011, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 12 2011, 08:46 AM) to me, i will work till i have the body tat will make me say 'tat should do it!' and then i will maintain. After reaching the 'tat should do it! stage, I think we will start to have another 'tat should do it! goal still a long way to go...  |
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Jul 12 2011, 10:58 AM
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hm... my target is weight in range of 80-85 in ripped condition because body will look so small if goes below 80 kg... even once i also will be happy because i noe it is quite impossible to stay ripped all the while
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Jul 12 2011, 11:05 AM
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Lost like 3kg after a 1 month break.. Sigh!
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Jul 12 2011, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 12 2011, 10:33 AM) After reaching the 'tat should do it! stage, I think we will start to have another 'tat should do it! goal haha normal right. i guess it's normal to challenge and push ourselves to another levelwell let me reach my 1st level 1st lol |
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Jul 12 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 12 2011, 11:19 AM) haha normal right. i guess it's normal to challenge and push ourselves to another level Like Darklight always say - Bigeroxia lol. well let me reach my 1st level 1st lol Yeah, achieve those mini goal first . |
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Height: 170cm
Weight: 180-185 pounds Chest: 48" inches Waist: 35" inches Legs: 27" inches Arms: 18.5 inches been training for 14 years now, never once go compete, just train for fun nia... other people likes collecting stamp, i like lifting weight... as simple as that... |
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Jul 12 2011, 01:42 PM
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wow nice... have a picture of urself? would like to see.. no homo ya...
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Jul 12 2011, 01:43 PM
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Ya am interested too. PICT!!!!!
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Jul 12 2011, 02:17 PM
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currently my status shall be..
height 171 weight 83+- arm 17 chest 44 waist 32 leg duno.. really hope to achieve your size haha... |
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Jul 12 2011, 02:57 PM
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will post pics tonite..., but since im a shy guy so just a few pics will surfice
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Jul 12 2011, 03:28 PM
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i hv been liftin for abt 1yr +...
jus enjoy doing it i'm sure most of us here do too |
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Jul 12 2011, 05:19 PM
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dont know why, somehow, lifting, helps me focus and really de-stress. especially after a hard day or just really frustrated with what's going on. Focusing on delivering that set, that rep, keeping the form, helps a lot
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Jul 12 2011, 05:55 PM
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chicken nowadays is getting expensive
somebody take dory fish as protein sources? tesco selling 1kg for 6.99 damn cheap |
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Jul 12 2011, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 12 2011, 05:55 PM) chicken nowadays is getting expensive Tried dory before it tastes pretty nasty without sauce/seasoning.somebody take dory fish as protein sources? tesco selling 1kg for 6.99 damn cheap |
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Jul 12 2011, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 12 2011, 05:57 PM) Tried dory before it tastes pretty nasty without sauce/seasoning. what bout the nutrition content of 1kg fish? |
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Jul 12 2011, 06:10 PM
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Jul 12 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 12 2011, 06:10 PM) It means 130 gram for 1 kg..freeenuff do you know anywhere in penang can get cheaper source chicken breast? |
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Jul 12 2011, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 12 2011, 06:17 PM) It means 130 gram for 1 kg..freeenuff do you know anywhere in penang can get cheaper source chicken breast? I am a sucker when it comes to comparing prices bro... I usually go for convenience over price, for me chicken breast fillet from one of the hypermart. |
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Jul 12 2011, 07:02 PM
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Dory , not a fan of it. Goodness gracious, when packed for meals, that fish makes the whole room smell like...
anyway, try to buy from wet market la. I buy from uncle on weekly basis until he sends it directly to my house. Average Rm100 a week, 2 plastic bags of butterfly chicken breast(10 - 15). Tenderloin as I posted 2kg rm40, that's around 8 meals right there. The thing is I can't find turkey and even wet market depends on availability, I'm actually considering tilapia since I heard that it is the most tasteless fish of all(packed that is). |
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Jul 12 2011, 08:01 PM
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i just eat any kind of fish that i like, especially catfish.
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Jul 12 2011, 08:06 PM
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 srsly how DO you mine for fish. |
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Jul 12 2011, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 12 2011, 07:02 PM) Dory , not a fan of it. Goodness gracious, when packed for meals, that fish makes the whole room smell like... wet market is more expensive than hypermarket or grocerry store lol anyway, try to buy from wet market la. I buy from uncle on weekly basis until he sends it directly to my house. Average Rm100 a week, 2 plastic bags of butterfly chicken breast(10 - 15). Tenderloin as I posted 2kg rm40, that's around 8 meals right there. The thing is I can't find turkey and even wet market depends on availability, I'm actually considering tilapia since I heard that it is the most tasteless fish of all(packed that is). |
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Jul 13 2011, 08:50 AM
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not in my case though, that's why i get it from the wet market nearby. which area you stay at?
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Jul 13 2011, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 13 2011, 08:50 AM) not in my case though, that's why i get it from the wet market nearby. which area you stay at? jelutong area.. |
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Jul 13 2011, 01:53 PM
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Jul 13 2011, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 13 2011, 01:23 PM) jelutong area.. I'm in ipoh |
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Jul 13 2011, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 13 2011, 01:53 PM) |
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Jul 13 2011, 05:56 PM
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yep watched that just now and i'm looking forward to buying some supplements. been lifting for 2 years, gains have slowed down muscle mass not going up, deadlift stuck at 1.8x bodyweight ( 144kg)...i'm eating enough protein from whole foods though. i should go for what supplements? BCAA? no creatine please i got asthma.
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Jul 14 2011, 12:20 AM
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hope this is the correct place to ask
i've been BB benching 67.5kg the other day. right shoulder feels kinda funny. there was a slight pain but din bother bout it. was benching 70kg today and the pain starts to develop. i couldn't finish my 2nd set when the pain became more pronounced. when i do the bench press motion, there is a "clak" sound in my shoulder. so should i deload? or stop for a period till it recovers? |
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Jul 14 2011, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jul 14 2011, 12:20 AM) hope this is the correct place to ask i really think u should stop and wait for a while. cause i've been into that situation before and it really hurts if you continue doing that.i've been BB benching 67.5kg the other day. right shoulder feels kinda funny. there was a slight pain but din bother bout it. was benching 70kg today and the pain starts to develop. i couldn't finish my 2nd set when the pain became more pronounced. when i do the bench press motion, there is a "clak" sound in my shoulder. so should i deload? or stop for a period till it recovers? guys, may i know what is your routine for chest workout? i mean something that i can do at my room as my uni's gym is packed like sardine can. i only got pair of dumbells, barbell, and curve barbell to work on. This post has been edited by ZintanthraX: Jul 14 2011, 01:14 AM |
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Jul 14 2011, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jul 14 2011, 12:20 AM) hope this is the correct place to ask it happens to me...so i started to include some rotator cuff exercisei've been BB benching 67.5kg the other day. right shoulder feels kinda funny. there was a slight pain but din bother bout it. was benching 70kg today and the pain starts to develop. i couldn't finish my 2nd set when the pain became more pronounced. when i do the bench press motion, there is a "clak" sound in my shoulder. so should i deload? or stop for a period till it recovers? |
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Jul 14 2011, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 14 2011, 01:12 AM) i really think u should stop and wait for a while. cause i've been into that situation before and it really hurts if you continue doing that. U got quite a lot equipments for workout di. Benchpress, dumbell fly. These are all good chest workout. Maybe you are lack of bench? If you are able to find way to work your chest out at different angle.(As in inclines,declines,flat) These 2 exercises are very sufficient. Unless you meant you really want to isolate each and every muscle. Otherwise, presses and flies are enough. Read somewhere at bb.com about the angle and muscles targetted. Perhaps you can search for it. guys, may i know what is your routine for chest workout? i mean something that i can do at my room as my uni's gym is packed like sardine can. i only got pair of dumbells, barbell, and curve barbell to work on.  |
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Jul 14 2011, 03:17 PM
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i don't do decline bench press because i feel i dun hv much effect. So,i change to dip and can see my lower chest grows.
anyone experience this ? |
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Jul 14 2011, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 14 2011, 03:17 PM) i don't do decline bench press because i feel i dun hv much effect. So,i change to dip and can see my lower chest grows. Yupe. Dip with leaning forward is good for lower chest. But to be frank, I also feel that sore on triceps and shoulder. Can't go too much on the dip.So I will still include the decline press on the routine. But after all,I still focus more on the flat bench press for foundation.anyone experience this ? |
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Jul 14 2011, 08:55 PM
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Which protein powder is suggested for affordable and builds muscle ? And does age matter ? Cause im 16 .
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Jul 14 2011, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(IrNoob95 @ Jul 14 2011, 08:55 PM) Which protein powder is suggested for affordable and builds muscle ? And does age matter ? Cause im 16 . Protein is protein, get the one that has the best value for money. No, age doesn't matter, but form and technique matters A LOT. |
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Jul 14 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jul 14 2011, 10:47 PM) Protein is protein, get the one that has the best value for money. No, age doesn't matter, but form and technique matters A LOT. Is there difference between mass gaining , and muscle building ? |
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Jul 14 2011, 11:07 PM
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i have lower back pain and spine problem. think spine is pressing some nerve causes pain in the middle of buttocks. sharp pain.
im going to hospital, what kind of doctor should i look for? |
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Jul 14 2011, 11:27 PM
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arnold started at 15
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Jul 15 2011, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 14 2011, 01:55 AM) it happens to me...so i started to include some rotator cuff exercise do u stop all exercises related to shoulder? if i do any motion which moves my rotator cuff it hurts |
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Jul 15 2011, 07:27 AM
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exercise that target rotator cuff suppose to be done with very small weight, 0.5kg, 1kg is more than enough. If you do it with more weight, you overdo it... if you are doing it without weight... than I would suggest you to be patience... take it slowly. If you want to continue shoulder exercise, take off weight until you feel comfortable, lift light. If still hurt, stop shoulder exercise wait for 1,2 days, see if problem solved. If still hurt, just stop shoulder exercise and start doing rotator cuff exercise. You can also try to do other kind of shoulder exercise and see if it is OK. Sometimes, only a specific exercise giving problems...
~sosostupid, I would suggest you go to clinic and get a refer letter to go to hospital. The doctor would know better... At the mean time, you can try to do exercise as discuss in another thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1899526/+20 This post has been edited by hoxy: Jul 15 2011, 07:30 AM |
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Jul 15 2011, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Jul 15 2011, 07:27 AM) exercise that target rotator cuff suppose to be done with very small weight, 0.5kg, 1kg is more than enough. If you do it with more weight, you overdo it... if you are doing it without weight... than I would suggest you to be patience... take it slowly. If you want to continue shoulder exercise, take off weight until you feel comfortable, lift light. If still hurt, stop shoulder exercise wait for 1,2 days, see if problem solved. If still hurt, just stop shoulder exercise and start doing rotator cuff exercise. You can also try to do other kind of shoulder exercise and see if it is OK. Sometimes, only a specific exercise giving problems... alright, will do. thx for advise.~sosostupid, I would suggest you go to clinic and get a refer letter to go to hospital. The doctor would know better... At the mean time, you can try to do exercise as discuss in another thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1899526/+20 |
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Jul 15 2011, 04:44 PM
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hi bro, i need advice here. i started go to gym a week ago, three times per week. is it ok for beginner to take protein powder before and after workout?
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Jul 15 2011, 06:34 PM
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comments on my cutting diet plan? first cut =)
174cm 92kg 20%bf Not taking supplement, poor student. D 1 - Chest tris D 2 - Jog 30 mins D 3 - Back bis D 4 - Jog 30 mins D 5 - Shoulder abs D 6 - Jog 30 mins D 7 - Rest I don't exercise legs cause i played lotsa football when i was a kid, i squat twice a week, deadlift once a week. Breakfast - 3 whole eggs, 10 tablespoon oat Snack - 1 piece bread, peanut butter, an apple Lunch - 200g fish/chicken/beef, some random vegies Snack - 1 piece bread, peanut butter, an apple Dinner - 200g fish/chicken/beef, some random vegies Snack - 10 tablespoon oatmeal, small amount of cheese |
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Jul 15 2011, 07:46 PM
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My comment:
Usually I don't do chest n tris together bcoz tris are already used when u do chest. So u cannot tap the full potential of ur tris unless u fully isolated it. Maybe can switch with bis for back. I would remove peanut butter for cutting if I were u. |
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Jul 15 2011, 07:55 PM
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i do about 4-5 exercises for chest, 1-2 for tris. is that okay? take away peanut butter, anything else to add?
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Jul 15 2011, 08:18 PM
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y sacrifice tris just bcoz u do chest? y not fully isolate it and do 5 exercises for tris also. Anyway there's no right or wrong, if u do see results then good.
carbs at nite isn't tat good also. in the end, it's all about reducing the calories. |
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Jul 15 2011, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 15 2011, 06:34 PM) comments on my cutting diet plan? first cut =) I don't do any bulking/cutting thing. But I'll say that playing football/rugby/jogging ka whatsoever definitely is not a reason why you are not working out your legs. You may not want to "enlarge" (if you able to) legs with workouts, but for whatever reasons if you said cutting/bulking, leg day shouldn't be out. Because that's one of the large muscle group to work, and working quadriceps secrete 2-3 times more growth hormone than working the tris.So if you want cutting, you hope you burn more fat (by exercise a large muscle group,yes you burn fat) and pack up some mass (by the growth hormone,you do). So why you will sacrifice your leg day? In fact if you really want to CUT, instead of alternating day with cardio/weight training, why don't you do a 15-20 mins of cardio post workout everyday. And then made it a 5/6 training day with 1/0 cardio day a week?174cm 92kg 20%bf Not taking supplement, poor student. D 1 - Chest tris D 2 - Jog 30 mins D 3 - Back bis D 4 - Jog 30 mins D 5 - Shoulder abs D 6 - Jog 30 mins D 7 - Rest I don't exercise legs cause i played lotsa football when i was a kid, i squat twice a week, deadlift once a week. Breakfast - 3 whole eggs, 10 tablespoon oat Snack - 1 piece bread, peanut butter, an apple Lunch - 200g fish/chicken/beef, some random vegies Snack - 1 piece bread, peanut butter, an apple Dinner - 200g fish/chicken/beef, some random vegies Snack - 10 tablespoon oatmeal, small amount of cheese |
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Jul 16 2011, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 15 2011, 09:47 PM) I don't do any bulking/cutting thing. But I'll say that playing football/rugby/jogging ka whatsoever definitely is not a reason why you are not working out your legs. You may not want to "enlarge" (if you able to) legs with workouts, but for whatever reasons if you said cutting/bulking, leg day shouldn't be out. Because that's one of the large muscle group to work, and working quadriceps secrete 2-3 times more growth hormone than working the tris.So if you want cutting, you hope you burn more fat (by exercise a large muscle group,yes you burn fat) and pack up some mass (by the growth hormone,you do). So why you will sacrifice your leg day? In fact if you really want to CUT, instead of alternating day with cardio/weight training, why don't you do a 15-20 mins of cardio post workout everyday. And then made it a 5/6 training day with 1/0 cardio day a week? he DID say he squats twice a week. |
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Jul 16 2011, 07:38 AM
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i do triceps with chest...
a normal routine would be : chest dips, bench press, inclined bench press, dumbbells pullovers,flyes, push-ups, bench dips... all in 4 setsx 8-10 reps |
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Jul 16 2011, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Jul 16 2011, 07:38 AM) i do triceps with chest... i do tri's with chest as well, only reason is to spare bi's for back day. imo you're not doing enough for tri's ijnek. try throwing in some skullcrushers/rope pulldowns? a normal routine would be : chest dips, bench press, inclined bench press, dumbbells pullovers,flyes, push-ups, bench dips... all in 4 setsx 8-10 reps ftr, my chest day is db incline, bb flat, db or cable flyes, HS Chest press, skullcrushers, CGBP, rope pulldowns. also 4-5 sets per exercise. reps depends, usually 4 - 12 depending if its volume or heavy day. |
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Jul 16 2011, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 16 2011, 12:22 AM) he DID say he squats twice a week. Hmm, I can see that. But is squat means all leg exercises?  Anyway, how much effort he put in the "squat for twice a week" should be the answer for it. No offense. Maybe not everyone like to workout leg, squat is like the only thing people will do for their legs. After all, I just did my part to remind that a LEG day should be there because you have to work out quadriceps, hamstring and calves on your legs. Squat could be the god damn compound move that cover lots muscles, but it never covers all the muscles. How he squat and how much he squat for that 2 times a week matters a lot. Still stick to that principle, everyone know and believe in what they are doing, other comments and feed backs are just opinions, one can choose to  or just . As long as still and , everything fine. |
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Jul 16 2011, 02:10 PM
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im 92kg, i squat 1.5x bw 3x8, deadlift 1.8x bw (stuck..) 1x5
i've got dominant calves seriously 16 inch at 174cm makes me look damn short ..that's why i don't train them. quads are the same, very huge compare to the rest of body. i'm gonna look like 口 <-- this shape if i train my legs any further.. |
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Jul 16 2011, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 16 2011, 02:10 PM) im 92kg, i squat 1.5x bw 3x8, deadlift 1.8x bw (stuck..) 1x5 Good figures. I see. Mind to share some pic on the calves and quads. Interested to see.i've got dominant calves seriously 16 inch at 174cm makes me look damn short ..that's why i don't train them. quads are the same, very huge compare to the rest of body. i'm gonna look like 口 <-- this shape if i train my legs any further.. |
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Jul 16 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 16 2011, 02:53 PM) Good figures. I see. Mind to share some pic on the calves and quads. Interested to see. me too. thats some serious numbers you're posting up. your weight/height/bf% also shows some serious mass there. im only slightly taller than you, though i think im at lower bf%(refer avatar pic) but you're at least 15kilos heavier than me! |
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Jul 16 2011, 07:07 PM
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Hi guys i have a few questions to ask, hopefully i'll get some answers from here.
1. Does working on front/side/back deltoids help widening/broadening shoulder? 2. Which part of muscle does lateral pull down machine use? if i'm not mistaken the main part should be latissimus, but does it also use arm and shoulder muscle? 3. What do you guys usually do to particularly enlarge bicep muscle? besides dumbbell curl 4. Kindly suggest me some exercises/workouts which ultimately widen and broaden shoulder  Thanks! |
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Jul 16 2011, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jul 16 2011, 07:07 PM) Hi guys i have a few questions to ask, hopefully i'll get some answers from here. 1.Yes, working deltoids widen shoulder.1. Does working on front/side/back deltoids help widening/broadening shoulder? 2. Which part of muscle does lateral pull down machine use? if i'm not mistaken the main part should be latissimus, but does it also use arm and shoulder muscle? 3. What do you guys usually do to particularly enlarge bicep muscle? besides dumbbell curl 4. Kindly suggest me some exercises/workouts which ultimately widen and broaden shoulder Thanks! 2. Lateral pull down machine is like a compound movement, it's target your back (lat), but of course you use your arm to pull down.So arm muscles are involve too. 3.Hammer curl is good too. And Concentration curl for the "peak".Preachers curls also work for bicep. 4. Shoulder presses, upright row, lateral raises, shoulder front raises... These are the exercises that work your shoulder. But China's Great Wall isn't build in one day, normally a wide shoulder come with small waist. And for those shoulder workouts, you can always check BB.com. Otherwise, ask swimmers. Swimmers normally have wide shoulder and back. This post has been edited by van_takawa: Jul 16 2011, 11:23 PM |
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Jul 16 2011, 11:37 PM
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all sifus,do take a look at my diet and c if it is ok..
9am : noodles with an egg and 100g chicken breast and multivitamins. / 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white(with chicken breast) 12pm : starfruit juices with 100g chicken breast 3pm : 250ml HL choc milk with 5tablespoon oats and 1 bananas with 2 eggs white 3.45pm : 250ml water with glucose 2 tablespoon. 4pm : workout 7pm : 100g chicken breast with rice,some veges and plain soup. 10pm : HL with oats. now im having a hard time of cooking a healthy chicken breast except by steaming it with mushroom,half tbs of oyster sauce and some ginger..im looking on another way to cook more variety of healthy meal which consist of protein but didnt hit my calories that much. i dont have any oven... im 73kg with 177cm btw..on top is pretty much my diet and i need to change it b4 i get boring.. |
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Jul 16 2011, 11:44 PM
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i can't find mirror to take picture lol will snap one next time i go to gym.
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Jul 17 2011, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 16 2011, 11:21 PM) 1.Yes, working deltoids widen shoulder. Thanks man that helps a lot!2. Lateral pull down machine is like a compound movement, it's target your back (lat), but of course you use your arm to pull down.So arm muscles are involve too. 3.Hammer curl is good too. And Concentration curl for the "peak".Preachers curls also work for bicep. 4. Shoulder presses, upright row, lateral raises, shoulder front raises... These are the exercises that work your shoulder. But China's Great Wall isn't build in one day, normally a wide shoulder come with small waist. And for those shoulder workouts, you can always check BB.com. Otherwise, ask swimmers. Swimmers normally have wide shoulder and back. |
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Jul 17 2011, 01:10 PM
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3. going as heavy as you can on the basic curl does it for me. without sacrificing too much form of course
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Jul 18 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Jul 15 2011, 07:27 AM) exercise that target rotator cuff suppose to be done with very small weight, 0.5kg, 1kg is more than enough. If you do it with more weight, you overdo it... if you are doing it without weight... than I would suggest you to be patience... take it slowly. If you want to continue shoulder exercise, take off weight until you feel comfortable, lift light. If still hurt, stop shoulder exercise wait for 1,2 days, see if problem solved. If still hurt, just stop shoulder exercise and start doing rotator cuff exercise. You can also try to do other kind of shoulder exercise and see if it is OK. Sometimes, only a specific exercise giving problems... thx for the advice bro. im applying ice on my shoulder hopefully will get better. gonna stop benching/pressing for this coming week. i still feel the "clak" sound in my rotator cuff. still feeling some slight pain. should i start doin rotator exercise now? if i do wont it hurt my rotator cuff? |
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Jul 18 2011, 11:20 AM
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obviously you've been experiencing this issue for a prolong time. Just stop doing bench press and start doing rotator exercise. Take a day or 2 day rest before doing rotator exercise can be considered too.
do you feel the pain doing bench press with barbell at the bottom position? Reducing the range of motion (stopping half the rep, not going deep enough) might help. Same goes for barbell shoulder press (elbow should be pointing forward, not flared out to the side). Try to switch to dumbell version see if the irritation comes from doing barbell exercise... If it hurts, you can consider doing bodyweight exercise such as push up and handstand push up as a replacement altogether. |
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Jul 18 2011, 03:25 PM
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hey where can i buy strap for pulling exercise? red colour ones. like those in speedoom's avatar
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Jul 18 2011, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Jul 18 2011, 11:20 AM) obviously you've been experiencing this issue for a prolong time. Just stop doing bench press and start doing rotator exercise. Take a day or 2 day rest before doing rotator exercise can be considered too. i think so too. because whenever i bench heavy, i tend to lift my right shoulder off the bench. bad habit. the pain was very brief so i couldn't be bothered last time.do you feel the pain doing bench press with barbell at the bottom position? Reducing the range of motion (stopping half the rep, not going deep enough) might help. Same goes for barbell shoulder press (elbow should be pointing forward, not flared out to the side). Try to switch to dumbell version see if the irritation comes from doing barbell exercise... If it hurts, you can consider doing bodyweight exercise such as push up and handstand push up as a replacement altogether. no did not feel any pain when barbell is at bottom position. just that when pressing upward my right shoulder will hurt. gonna try it with light weight at w/o later and see how it goes |
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Jul 18 2011, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 17 2011, 01:10 PM) 3. going as heavy as you can on the basic curl does it for me. without sacrificing too much form of course Thanks!! i started doing concentration curl and concentrate on the 'peak', i can really feel the pressure on my biceps haha. By the way, i saw some video comments on youtube saying about 'strong' and 'endurance' style for the same exercise. when doing strong, more weight and lesser reps; when doing endurance, lesser weight but more reps. would anyone care to clarify and explain this? Thanks! |
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Jul 18 2011, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jul 18 2011, 05:44 PM) Thanks!! i started doing concentration curl and concentrate on the 'peak', i can really feel the pressure on my biceps haha. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...an_powerliftersBy the way, i saw some video comments on youtube saying about 'strong' and 'endurance' style for the same exercise. when doing strong, more weight and lesser reps; when doing endurance, lesser weight but more reps. would anyone care to clarify and explain this? Thanks! related article |
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Jul 18 2011, 10:26 PM
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anyone can correct me?im into my work place normal basic gym..b4 i hit the weights i'll run for 15mins and may target is to hit 2km on the treadmill wit speed average 7.0 to max 8.0..later wil do some ab workout
b4 go into the weights.. Day 1-chest and triceps Day 2-back and biceps Day 3-shoulder and legs and next day wil back to day 1 schedule and so on and sometimes wil include forearm if im stil have gas left in the tank and fyi im not into any protein supplement..just have my normal meals and rice only in the lunch..also into HL milk and some green peas wit egg..this is what im doing and normally if im tired i wil skip and replace it next day..currently im 75kg and 1.69m..ive been told my ideal weight 72kg..im not into bulking just hope to get some shape and stay fit..any comments about my workout,i really appreciate and do correct me if im missing something..really appreciate..Tq |
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Jul 18 2011, 10:38 PM
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just asking, will bodybuilding make footballer's performance worse? as i heard, if upper body gets big, the centre of gravity will increase and changing direction will be harder
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Jul 18 2011, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(Damien?(: @ Jul 18 2011, 10:38 PM) just asking, will bodybuilding make footballer's performance worse? as i heard, if upper body gets big, the centre of gravity will increase and changing direction will be harder Not at all. Bodybuilding improved my game. I got faster, stronger and I'm still pretty agile. |
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Jul 18 2011, 10:52 PM
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of course..imagine how can the striker move along if he's to weight!!
remember gabby agbanlahor,when GHoulier was incharge he ordered him to reduce his gym work as he lost his speed.. |
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Jul 18 2011, 10:53 PM
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To Mahdes 88, try hit your weight then do your cardio. Without a look on your workout routine and details of your "normal" meals, no one can give you detail opinions.
TO Damien?(: , someone who build upper body only is not a body builder. A bodybuilder build his whole body, both upper and lower. In fact, a lot people misunderstood abt BBer's athletic performance. A good body builder lift well, eat well, rest well, stretch well and treated his body well. A lot BBers are big yet they are with good flexibility and stamina. No doubt. Certain big size people will give u the misconception they are freaks that can't keep their balance off the ground.But IT'S A MISCONCEPTION. Anyway, it's really not that easy to train to have that huge upper body that going to cause you off balance. So think less. Just train! Added on July 18, 2011, 11:01 pm QUOTE(mahdes77 @ Jul 18 2011, 10:52 PM) of course..imagine how can the striker move along if he's to weight!! Is it? Are you sure? Did you see it in the locker room? You read it from the newspaper? Did you see that Brazil's Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho failed to stay on top of the Europe for not entering the gym?remember gabby agbanlahor,when GHoulier was incharge he ordered him to reduce his gym work as he lost his speed.. Think twice before you post. This post has been edited by van_takawa: Jul 18 2011, 11:01 PM |
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Jul 19 2011, 02:32 AM
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hi van..im not into footballers cant do gym or lift weight,if u ask me if a defender say like Terry,Ferdinand of course they have a good structure and with correct weight and nutrition they will be at their best..if u watch some EPL footballers especially defenders will have a solid tough body coz they need to defend...maybe basically footballers build their body accordingly i mean they wont build until they bulk or gain more upper weight but of course they have their own fitness coach who will conduct the training for the strength part...as for Gabby i mean most Villa fans knew his strength was pace but last year b4 the season begins he had done too much gym workout in order to stay on top when play against top defender like Terry or Ferdinand coz EPL is known to be the toughest and at times very robust
n physically challenge game..as a result of that Gabby bulk and lost some of his pace according to then manager O'Neill and later GHoulier! of course without thinking twice i wont post something but this was some info that i get when was reading..anyway my point is if u hit the gym if ur footballer then u must have a proper guidance.try to hv some info thru the web... |
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Jul 19 2011, 07:42 AM
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You should know that I dont do bench press and I only do push up. I find push up is really tough and I know how to make push up tough. I have progressed to 1 arm push up a long time ago, and it is a real fun and a real cool move especially if I decided to workout outdoor with so many people can just watch and cant do what I do. I never feel a pain from push up even with 1 arm 1 leg push up (arm to the side).
Now back to bench press, obviously now your problem is technique. Bench press is a very technical lift, you better get your technique right. Technique falls apart with heavy weight, your body pay the price. No matter the weight is light or heavy... just maintain good technique. It is natural that you feel pain during the concentric part (going up). You can try to cut the rep half and see whether the pain reduce a little. And... retract your shoulder. The moment you lift your shoulder you have lose the retract shoulder (if you doing it already) and your shoulder joint will take the full load, hence the pain. If you have never retract your shoulder, then my friend... you need to stop doing bench press and start researching more on bench press technique. push up anyone?http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/progressive6.htm This post has been edited by hoxy: Jul 19 2011, 07:43 AM |
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Jul 19 2011, 10:04 AM
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how can i train to make my pecs have more defination and also the side pecs?
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Jul 19 2011, 10:27 AM
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greetings guys,
i have been having massive back pains after doing deadlifts. is this normal ? |
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Jul 19 2011, 10:32 AM
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could you describe further more on your back pain? which part of back is pain? how does it make you feel pain? sharp pains or soreness kind?
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Jul 19 2011, 01:28 PM
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yo this september buat BB meet up jom!
let us all flex, lift and make lols at the gym |
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Jul 19 2011, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 19 2011, 01:28 PM) yo this september buat BB meet up jom! mana bro? im up for it..let us all flex, lift and make lols at the gym btw the thread at /k/ kena delete.. |
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Jul 19 2011, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 19 2011, 01:34 PM) mana bro? im up for it.. i masuk Uni balik on Septemberbtw the thread at /k/ kena delete.. anywhere in KL la come on guys! let us flex! |
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Jul 19 2011, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 19 2011, 01:37 PM) i masuk Uni balik on September this things all have to ask the others here cause they organise gathering b4anywhere in KL la come on guys! let us flex! btw im studying at taylors lakeside..gym is in sri hartamas |
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Jul 19 2011, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 19 2011, 01:45 PM) this things all have to ask the others here cause they organise gathering b4 im studying in UIA Gombakbtw im studying at taylors lakeside..gym is in sri hartamas where is all the senior members? |
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Jul 19 2011, 02:02 PM
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working time bro...
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Jul 19 2011, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jul 19 2011, 01:49 PM) im studying in UIA Gombak Jerking off to porn.where is all the senior members? |
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Jul 19 2011, 08:00 PM
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when there is no more muscle sore after workout, does it mean we need to add more weight? for example, bicep curl?
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Jul 19 2011, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 19 2011, 08:00 PM) when there is no more muscle sore after workout, does it mean we need to add more weight? for example, bicep curl? It means, change things up. Your body is getting used to it. Or it's simply too light. You failing at 8 - 12 reps? |
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Jul 19 2011, 08:14 PM
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yep. i normally do 10 reps, 3 sets for every workout that im doing.
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Jul 19 2011, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 19 2011, 08:14 PM) yep. i normally do 10 reps, 3 sets for every workout that im doing. 3 sets of 10 reps, that 3 sets, are u struggling to get all 10 reps or are u sailing through it? |
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Jul 19 2011, 08:19 PM
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normally i start to fail on the 3rd set, as it gets harder to lift. but after doing the 3rd set, there is no more pain/sore.
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Jul 19 2011, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 19 2011, 08:19 PM) normally i start to fail on the 3rd set, as it gets harder to lift. but after doing the 3rd set, there is no more pain/sore. its normal to be fatigued by the 3rd set. but i dont get what you mean by after doing the 3rd set, there is no more pain/sore. u mean for the last 2 sets of 10, u experience pain /sore every rep? D.O.M.S. usually comes AFTER your weight training. nevertheless, soreness should be too particular to be gauged on whether you've trained enough or not. Most of the time, it's just because your body has gotten used to the routine. |
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Jul 19 2011, 08:26 PM
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i mean after the training. normally a day after workout i will soreness to my muscles. but now no more.
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Jul 19 2011, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 19 2011, 08:26 PM) i mean after the training. normally a day after workout i will soreness to my muscles. but now no more. Try changing your routine then. |
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Jul 19 2011, 11:54 PM
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I'm confused.
The body will burn fats as fuel when its low on calories The other thing is, the body will take muscle and turn it into fuel if there is no calories in the body. So when will each scenario happen? |
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Jul 20 2011, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jul 19 2011, 11:54 PM) I'm confused. Both proteolysis and lipolysis happen hand in hand when you are calorie-deficient. Thats why you inevitably lose muscle bulk as you cut. Ofcos there are ways to go around this. Supplement is one of them. BCAA is especially beneficial during cutting, in maintaining the muscle mass. Macronutrient manipulation can be helpful too. By supplying sufficient/constant flow of protein you make sure the muscle is tipping towards the proteosynthesis of the balance of proteosynthesis/proteolysis. Net effect? You lose more fat than muscle as you cut.The body will burn fats as fuel when its low on calories The other thing is, the body will take muscle and turn it into fuel if there is no calories in the body. So when will each scenario happen? |
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Jul 20 2011, 12:12 AM
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Thanks alot for ur replies mahdes and van.takawa. =) i will seek more guidance from the fitness coach when i fly to cruzeiro next month=) if possible, i will share my experience soon
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Jul 20 2011, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 20 2011, 12:05 AM) Both proteolysis and lipolysis happen hand in hand when you are calorie-deficient. Thats why you inevitably lose muscle bulk as you cut. Ofcos there are ways to go around this. Supplement is one of them. BCAA is especially beneficial during cutting, in maintaining the muscle mass. Macronutrient manipulation can be helpful too. By supplying sufficient/constant flow of protein you make sure the muscle is tipping towards the proteosynthesis of the balance of proteosynthesis/proteolysis. Net effect? You lose more fat than muscle as you cut. So basically just maintain the amount of protein either by meat or protein shake and low on calories will be sufficient to minimize muscle loss during cutting? |
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Jul 20 2011, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jul 20 2011, 12:27 AM) So basically just maintain the amount of protein either by meat or protein shake and low on calories will be sufficient to minimize muscle loss during cutting? Provided you are weight-training ofcos, not just pure cardio. Nutrition timing too. |
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Jul 20 2011, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 20 2011, 12:05 AM) Both proteolysis and lipolysis happen hand in hand when you are calorie-deficient. Thats why you inevitably lose muscle bulk as you cut. Ofcos there are ways to go around this. Supplement is one of them. BCAA is especially beneficial during cutting, in maintaining the muscle mass. Macronutrient manipulation can be helpful too. By supplying sufficient/constant flow of protein you make sure the muscle is tipping towards the proteosynthesis of the balance of proteosynthesis/proteolysis. Net effect? You lose more fat than muscle as you cut. I eat like an insane b!tch post workout. That's how I counter the catabolic effects of cutting. =P |
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Jul 20 2011, 10:19 AM
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how long did you guys jog during cutting phase, in terms of time?
im doing 30 mins of jogging, 5-6 days a week. am i doing it right? |
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Jul 20 2011, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 20 2011, 10:19 AM) how long did you guys jog during cutting phase, in terms of time? How much cardio were you doing when you were not cutting?im doing 30 mins of jogging, 5-6 days a week. am i doing it right? |
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Jul 20 2011, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 20 2011, 07:00 AM) I eat like an insane b!tch post workout. That's how I counter the catabolic effects of cutting. =P what you eat usually?? |
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Jul 20 2011, 01:09 PM
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This is too funny NOT to post. Work out with an erection. LOL |
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Jul 20 2011, 03:29 PM
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Guys, if I wanna get big or bulk up, should I concentrate on weight lifting/strength training and reduce cardio activities?
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Jul 20 2011, 04:46 PM
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When you injured lower body,work your upperbody;When you injured upperbody, work lowerbody; When back is injured, work where?
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Jul 20 2011, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 20 2011, 03:29 PM) Guys, if I wanna get big or bulk up, should I concentrate on weight lifting/strength training and reduce cardio activities? Yes! |
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Jul 20 2011, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 20 2011, 11:22 AM) How much cardio were you doing when you were not cutting? around 20 mins of jogging, 3 days a week. (i don't have the stamina to jog for an hour). |
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Jul 20 2011, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 20 2011, 05:08 PM) around 20 mins of jogging, 3 days a week. since you wanna cut, try increasing the number of days per week you do your cardio first. gradually. only add in, if you hit a plateau. (i don't have the stamina to jog for an hour).When you plateau at 7 days, try doing 2 cardio sessions per day. that's gonna be a shock to your body for sure. |
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Jul 20 2011, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 20 2011, 04:56 PM) Yes! What if I wanna have six packs but still look big. Sth like Scott Herman. Cardio is a yay or nay? |
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Jul 20 2011, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 20 2011, 05:26 PM) What if I wanna have six packs but still look big. Sth like Scott Herman. Cardio is a yay or nay? 2 ways to do that!Bulk without cardio and cut later or Clean bulk with some cardio Both have pros and cons,up to you to decide which way to go! |
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Jul 20 2011, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 20 2011, 05:19 PM) since you wanna cut, try increasing the number of days per week you do your cardio first. gradually. only add in, if you hit a plateau. so i should add to my current routine from 30 mins x 6 days to 7 days? sometimes i can't jog as i got class till evening. When you plateau at 7 days, try doing 2 cardio sessions per day. that's gonna be a shock to your body for sure. |
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Jul 20 2011, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 20 2011, 05:51 PM) so i should add to my current routine from 30 mins x 6 days to 7 days? sometimes i can't jog as i got class till evening. I thought you said 20 b4 this? Stick to 20mins and 4 days(1 day increment from ur current cardio routine ) first. when there's no change in weight, then add another day. Control your environment. I had classes from 8am to 8 pm and I had to cycle my ass back and forth. But I made sure I did my cardio in morning and I did my cardio in my evening. It's about how bad you want it mate. When your cardio reached 7 days for 20 minutes/day. Add in sessions in the evening then. Then it'll be 14 cardio sessions a week. All in all, you WILL hit a plateau even at this stage, that's when you put in additional 5 minutes per session. Nevertheless mate, you have to keep tabs on your diet. How much you're gonna lose depends on how much you've got to lose. How much can you lose from your change in routine/diet, depends on how much change you have in your routine/diet. Say you're eating 2 cups of rice per meal,cut it down to 1 and half cup when you plateau, when that fails, cut it down to 1 cup. I try to stay clear of less than 3/4 of a cup. Note* - Check every week if you lose weight,look in the mirror, see if there's changes. If you add in the extra cardio for that week, dont cut your amount of food intake, if you cut down your food intake, dont add in your cardio. Make little adjustments here and there. It's all about trial and error and making minor adjustments. How long you plan to cut and how much you wanna cut anyway? Added on July 20, 2011, 6:36 pm QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 20 2011, 05:51 PM) 2 ways to do that! When we bulk, even with a CLEAN diet, we're bound to put on a little bit of fats, and when we cut, we're bound to lose a little bit of muscle as well. It's all about finding out what works for you.Bulk without cardio and cut later or Clean bulk with some cardio Both have pros and cons,up to you to decide which way to go! I do encourage some form of cardio, maybe twice or thrice a week just to get the blood flowing. Not super intense cardio, just a brisk walk of some sort. But that's just me. It's down to you to see what you wanna do Added on July 20, 2011, 6:38 pm QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 20 2011, 04:46 PM) When you injured lower body,work your upperbody;When you injured upperbody, work lowerbody; When back is injured, work where? if you really did f*cked up your back, I'd actually suggest you look for a doctor immediately and get it fixed before you try and work out. Your health comes first. Aint no good going around with a nice looking body but your health is jeopardize.This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 20 2011, 06:38 PM |
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Jul 20 2011, 06:45 PM
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bought TRX yesterday, arrived today and try
memang core destruction i sh*t u not serious awesome! |
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Jul 20 2011, 08:45 PM
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Male, Chinese, 23 years old, studying degree, lotsa free time.
HOHOHO so I've got an important question for you dudes. I'm applying to be Sales Associate (lame title....) for GNC Jusco and there's this form to fill in details. One of it is expected salary, how much should i fill in? This post has been edited by Sheldon88: Jul 20 2011, 09:44 PM |
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Jul 20 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 20 2011, 08:45 PM) Male, Chinese, 23 years old, studying degree, lotsa free time. 30 tubs nitrotech.HOHOHO so I've got an important question for you dudes. I'm applying to be Sales Associate (lame title....) for GNC Jusco and there's this form to fill in details. One of me is expected salary, how much should i fill in? |
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Jul 20 2011, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 20 2011, 09:37 PM) 30 tubs nitrotech. That's expecting way too much! 1 tub itself is luxurious! |
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Jul 20 2011, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 20 2011, 09:37 PM) 30 tubs nitrotech. 35 and 10 cell tech.This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 20 2011, 09:39 PM |
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Jul 20 2011, 09:44 PM
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dudes...
Added on July 20, 2011, 9:44 pmwtf is one of me? @.@ one of it* ... This post has been edited by Sheldon88: Jul 20 2011, 09:44 PM |
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Jul 20 2011, 09:51 PM
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It's Bodybuilding thread what do you expect? Or you can ask for 300lbs of Olympic plates.
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Jul 20 2011, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 20 2011, 05:51 PM) 2 ways to do that! I'm new to this. I lost 8 kgs doing cardio from the last 8 months and would like to get bulk yet ripped. I'm afraid I have no time to do proper bulking & cutting. Mind to elaborate more on clean bulk?Bulk without cardio and cut later or Clean bulk with some cardio Both have pros and cons,up to you to decide which way to go! |
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Jul 20 2011, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 20 2011, 06:29 PM) I thought you said 20 b4 this? 20 is my normal routine when not cutting as in before i ended up cutting to lose the tummy. i had been doing 30 mins x 5 days past two weeks till now.Stick to 20mins and 4 days(1 day increment from ur current cardio routine ) first. when there's no change in weight, then add another day. Control your environment. I had classes from 8am to 8 pm and I had to cycle my ass back and forth. But I made sure I did my cardio in morning and I did my cardio in my evening. It's about how bad you want it mate. When your cardio reached 7 days for 20 minutes/day. Add in sessions in the evening then. Then it'll be 14 cardio sessions a week. All in all, you WILL hit a plateau even at this stage, that's when you put in additional 5 minutes per session. Nevertheless mate, you have to keep tabs on your diet. How much you're gonna lose depends on how much you've got to lose. How much can you lose from your change in routine/diet, depends on how much change you have in your routine/diet. Say you're eating 2 cups of rice per meal,cut it down to 1 and half cup when you plateau, when that fails, cut it down to 1 cup. I try to stay clear of less than 3/4 of a cup. Note* - Check every week if you lose weight,look in the mirror, see if there's changes. If you add in the extra cardio for that week, dont cut your amount of food intake, if you cut down your food intake, dont add in your cardio. Make little adjustments here and there. It's all about trial and error and making minor adjustments. How long you plan to cut and how much you wanna cut anyway? about diet, i try to eat superbly less but still focusing on protein consumption as much as i could. how long? i dont really plan yet because i dont know when im going to get a firmer abs. i'll try my best. thanks for the advice mate btw, are u a student? |
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Jul 21 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 20 2011, 11:23 PM) 20 is my normal routine when not cutting as in before i ended up cutting to lose the tummy. i had been doing 30 mins x 5 days past two weeks till now. yes, i am a student. find out how much your daily macronutrients needs are and try slowly deducting fats and carbs from them.about diet, i try to eat superbly less but still focusing on protein consumption as much as i could. how long? i dont really plan yet because i dont know when im going to get a firmer abs. i'll try my best. thanks for the advice mate btw, are u a student? |
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Jul 21 2011, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 21 2011, 12:38 AM) yes, i am a student. find out how much your daily macronutrients needs are and try slowly deducting fats and carbs from them. i do think we are near (im in utp btw ). the hardest part on the diet is to have a good meal here in my uni. the food, are superbly oily. sigh. |
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Jul 21 2011, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 20 2011, 11:22 PM) I'm new to this. I lost 8 kgs doing cardio from the last 8 months and would like to get bulk yet ripped. I'm afraid I have no time to do proper bulking & cutting. Mind to elaborate more on clean bulk? clean bulking, all carbs are complex/fibrous, all protein are lean and minimal fats, all fats are natural occuring and unsaturated. No frying or any of that sort.You can sautee, grill,boil, steam your food. And cut your cheat meals down to once every 10 days or every fortnight or if you're strong willed enough, cut out your cheat meals completely until you're done with your fat loss diet. do note however that, it is not advisable to go on a fat loss diet indefinitely. Clean bulking is not about how much you can eat, it's about how much CLEAN food you can eat. Added on July 21, 2011, 12:50 am QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 21 2011, 12:38 AM) yes, i am a student. find out how much your daily macronutrients needs are and try slowly deducting fats and carbs from them. Hence, cook your own food. I cook on every Sunday, food that can last me all the way to Friday and keep them in tupperware containers. I eat nearly all of my meals from my tupperware containers. It can be a b!tch at times, but I gotta do what I gotta do. Again, it's all about how bad you want it mate. Most of the time when you're dieting, them foods that you cant take, will look so bloody tempting and delicious but when you're finally done with your diet and you get to that cheat meal, you realize it aint that tasty afterall. That's something you can think about the next time you'rethinking of cheating. This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 21 2011, 12:50 AM |
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Jul 21 2011, 01:26 AM
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unluckily i cant cook my own food cz i live in a hostel. no facilities for cooking or refrigerating. my main source of food is the cafe. i tried my best to consume superbly less rice (only 1 scoop) and add more on fish/chicken and vege.
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Jul 22 2011, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 20 2011, 07:00 AM) I eat like an insane b!tch post workout. That's how I counter the catabolic effects of cutting. =P so basically, during ur cutting phase, after ur workout u eat like mad to grow?and early in the morning when gylcogen is depleted, u go for a work to burn off fats at the same time losing some muscle? does it work? This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Jul 22 2011, 12:07 AM |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:18 AM
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I'm a total newbie in BB.
183cm. 70kg. I can do roughly around 2 reps of push up. each 10 times. got a bit of tummy. and i'm hitting the gym recently. but i know nothing about BB. So any big bros here can tell me what should I do? I'm not the kind of hardcore builder. I still eat what I like to eat. Just control on my carbs. I'm not planning to get a 5 packs. Would like to focus mainly on my biceps and triceps and chest. So what should I do everyday? Cardio to reduce my tummy? How long? Lifting weight how many times? Using free weights seems to have a faster result than using machines right? So if I want to build muscles, use free weight? Can someone guide me what should I aim for? Like sort of a week program for me to follow. And I can do the neccessary adjustment from there? Would appreciate it a lot. Thanks. |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jul 22 2011, 12:18 AM) I'm a total newbie in BB. Read the stickies.183cm. 70kg. I can do roughly around 2 reps of push up. each 10 times. got a bit of tummy. and i'm hitting the gym recently. but i know nothing about BB. So any big bros here can tell me what should I do? I'm not the kind of hardcore builder. I still eat what I like to eat. Just control on my carbs. I'm not planning to get a 5 packs. Would like to focus mainly on my biceps and triceps and chest. So what should I do everyday? Cardio to reduce my tummy? How long? Lifting weight how many times? Using free weights seems to have a faster result than using machines right? So if I want to build muscles, use free weight? Can someone guide me what should I aim for? Like sort of a week program for me to follow. And I can do the neccessary adjustment from there? Would appreciate it a lot. Thanks. Here's one to get your started. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/371250 |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:32 AM
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Sorry. But, what is all this bench press, deadlift, dips,standing military weight etc. where can I find how to do them?
3x5 Squat 3x5 Bench Press 1x5 Deadlift 2x5-8 dips (only add weight if you are doing >10 bodyweight dips) Workout B 3x5 Squat 3x5 Standing military press 3x5 Pendlay Rows (or power cleans for 5x3, 5 sets of 3 reps apiece) 2x5-8 chinups ***if you do the power cleans, do 3 sets of chinups*** |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jul 22 2011, 12:32 AM) Sorry. But, what is all this bench press, deadlift, dips,standing military weight etc. where can I find how to do them? Google.3x5 Squat 3x5 Bench Press 1x5 Deadlift 2x5-8 dips (only add weight if you are doing >10 bodyweight dips) Workout B 3x5 Squat 3x5 Standing military press 3x5 Pendlay Rows (or power cleans for 5x3, 5 sets of 3 reps apiece) 2x5-8 chinups ***if you do the power cleans, do 3 sets of chinups*** You can even find how to do them on Youtube. |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 22 2011, 12:35 AM) Google. Alright. Will take the time to look at it. But how do you know at what weight should I do them?You can even find how to do them on Youtube. Will this helps the biceps? This is what I have been doing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZawrdYA0WXU Around 2x15 |
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Jul 22 2011, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jul 22 2011, 12:38 AM) But how do you know at what weight should I do them? A weight that's not too light, or too heavy for you to finish the necessary reps per set. It depends on the individual. |
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Jul 22 2011, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 21 2011, 12:46 AM) clean bulking, all carbs are complex/fibrous, all protein are lean and minimal fats, all fats are natural occuring and unsaturated. No frying or any of that sort. hey bro i was thinking the same ,cook the whole weeks foodYou can sautee, grill,boil, steam your food. And cut your cheat meals down to once every 10 days or every fortnight or if you're strong willed enough, cut out your cheat meals completely until you're done with your fat loss diet. do note however that, it is not advisable to go on a fat loss diet indefinitely. Clean bulking is not about how much you can eat, it's about how much CLEAN food you can eat. Added on July 21, 2011, 12:50 am Hence, cook your own food. I cook on every Sunday, food that can last me all the way to Friday and keep them in tupperware containers. I eat nearly all of my meals from my tupperware containers. It can be a b!tch at times, but I gotta do what I gotta do. Again, it's all about how bad you want it mate. Most of the time when you're dieting, them foods that you cant take, will look so bloody tempting and delicious but when you're finally done with your diet and you get to that cheat meal, you realize it aint that tasty afterall. That's something you can think about the next time you'rethinking of cheating. btw how you keep them in refrigerator? mind to share your exp? because i thought double times cooking the chicken will ruin the nutrition This post has been edited by theCrab: Jul 22 2011, 04:04 AM |
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Jul 22 2011, 10:03 AM
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Food I bring to work, 3rd meal. Weeeeee
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Jul 22 2011, 10:18 AM
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Jamis is that white bread ? no vege ? looks tasty ....
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Jul 22 2011, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 22 2011, 10:18 AM) Jamis is that white bread ? no vege ? looks tasty .... Wholemeal bread slice from the loaf but i dunno y it look so fair. Didnt have any vege left, makan papaya saja XD |
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Jul 22 2011, 10:22 AM
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nice one... by the way, guys, ON whey + black infusion during cutting.. will it be good? i plan to get it next week...
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Jul 22 2011, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 22 2011, 10:20 AM) Wholemeal bread slice from the loaf but i dunno y it look so fair. Didnt have any vege left, makan papaya saja XD must be the ingredients  |
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Jul 22 2011, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 22 2011, 04:04 AM) hey bro i was thinking the same ,cook the whole weeks food I keep them in big ass containers and just store them there until when I need to bring them out as meals. When I do, I'll just either reheat them in the microwave or if I'm free, throw them on the non-stick pan and re heat them there and there.btw how you keep them in refrigerator? mind to share your exp? because i thought double times cooking the chicken will ruin the nutrition  Nothing but grilled chicken (plain, no oil, not even olive oil) and there's around 4/5 cups of rice(measured b4 cooked) with like 6 - 7 eggs in the mix, to mix a fried rice(plain, no oil) I'd suggest invest in a good non-stick pan. I got mine at around 300 bucks in Jusco on sale. It's a bit expensive, but it's worth it, considering I can truly remove the oil. P/s - this was last week's. This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 22 2011, 12:59 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 01:02 PM
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wah u all damn semangat, salute!
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Jul 22 2011, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 22 2011, 01:02 PM) wah u all damn semangat, salute! One can be fat only for so long before they got sick of getting picked on for being fat isnt it?This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 22 2011, 01:09 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 01:12 PM
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ok i havent been tat fat b4 but still am struggling to cut off the stubborn fat. hate cardio but need to do it T_________T
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Jul 22 2011, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 22 2011, 01:07 PM) One can be fat only for so long before they got sick of getting picked on for being fat isnt it? Yep, totally understand how that feels Btw, how long do u keep your food in the fridge/freezer for that portion cooked in the pic? |
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Jul 22 2011, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jul 22 2011, 01:15 PM) Yep, totally understand how that feels that depends on whether I was cutting or bulking. When I was cutting, that would have lasted me just past a week, maybe 8 days, I'm on a short bulking period(3 weeks) currently, probably around 4 -5 days. Btw, how long do u keep your food in the fridge/freezer for that portion cooked in the pic?Added on July 22, 2011, 1:23 pm QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 22 2011, 01:12 PM) ok i havent been tat fat b4 but still am struggling to cut off the stubborn fat. hate cardio but need to do it T_________T Calorie deficit is necessary to help cut, but that doesn't mean you have to be hungry all the time. Changing up your carbs will help a lot, vegetables are good source of carbs to fill the stomach with pretty much empty calories.So by all means,devour as much as you want. I posted before about slow gradual changes, assess your body based on the mirror or a scale. Heck, I'd suggest you take pictures every week to compare, it'll be a great motivator as well just to see the changes you're making every week. Men generally store body fats around the midsection and the lower back, and your limbs will be the first one to get lean before them midsection b!tches start loosening up. It's all about how bad you want it mate. Let me see if I can get a picture somewhere of my current state. I definitely have a picture of me 44lbs heavier around 13 weeks ago. It's fully clothed though, too shy to show the body.and my low calorie diet is killing me... 
PLEASE DONT MAKE MY PICTURE INTO A MEME. I dont have a full body picture on my current, but i'll post up what I have found or maybe I'll get my girl to take one full picture later. Hopefully you guys get the idea. It's all about how bad you want it actually. You want it bad enough, you control your environment, you do what you need to do and you will succeed. I was 110kg here. I'm currently 90kg. This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 22 2011, 01:29 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 22 2011, 01:17 PM) that depends on whether I was cutting or bulking. When I was cutting, that would have lasted me just past a week, maybe 8 days, I'm on a short bulking period(3 weeks) currently, probably around 4 -5 days. Keep up the good work buddy! I used to be 122kgs. Drop to 80kg in a year. Once you see results, you'll get very motivated and you'll progress with consistency.Added on July 22, 2011, 1:23 pm Calorie deficit is necessary to help cut, but that doesn't mean you have to be hungry all the time. Changing up your carbs will help a lot, vegetables are good source of carbs to fill the stomach with pretty much empty calories.So by all means,devour as much as you want. I posted before about slow gradual changes, assess your body based on the mirror or a scale. Heck, I'd suggest you take pictures every week to compare, it'll be a great motivator as well just to see the changes you're making every week. Men generally store body fats around the midsection and the lower back, and your limbs will be the first one to get lean before them midsection b!tches start loosening up. It's all about how bad you want it mate. Let me see if I can get a picture somewhere of my current state. I definitely have a picture of me 44lbs heavier around 13 weeks ago. It's fully clothed though, too shy to show the body.
PLEASE DONT MAKE MY PICTURE INTO A MEME. I dont have a full body picture on my current, but i'll post up what I have found or maybe I'll get my girl to take one full picture later. Hopefully you guys get the idea. It's all about how bad you want it actually. You want it bad enough, you control your environment, you do what you need to do and you will succeed. I was 110kg here. I'm currently 90kg. |
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Jul 22 2011, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jul 22 2011, 12:39 PM) must be the ingredients Oh yes. The whole loaf looks browish, aft cut, tada! its white.Added on July 22, 2011, 2:13 pm QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jul 22 2011, 01:41 PM) Keep up the good work buddy! I used to be 122kgs. Drop to 80kg in a year. Once you see results, you'll get very motivated and you'll progress with consistency. Cant believe that u r that heavy before O.OAdded on July 22, 2011, 2:15 pm QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 22 2011, 01:17 PM) that depends on whether I was cutting or bulking. When I was cutting, that would have lasted me just past a week, maybe 8 days, I'm on a short bulking period(3 weeks) currently, probably around 4 -5 days. The chicken smell will get funny if kept in the fridge over long period :SThis post has been edited by jamis: Jul 22 2011, 02:15 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 22 2011, 12:56 PM) I keep them in big ass containers and just store them there until when I need to bring them out as meals. When I do, I'll just either reheat them in the microwave or if I'm free, throw them on the non-stick pan and re heat them there and there. I jealouss....!!Nothing but grilled chicken (plain, no oil, not even olive oil) and there's around 4/5 cups of rice(measured b4 cooked) with like 6 - 7 eggs in the mix, to mix a fried rice(plain, no oil) I'd suggest invest in a good non-stick pan. I got mine at around 300 bucks in Jusco on sale. It's a bit expensive, but it's worth it, considering I can truly remove the oil. P/s - this was last week's. haha... bro, how long this will finish? Added on July 22, 2011, 2:26 pmOps... slow loading momnet ago... saw it.. keep it up.. going to invest for that non stick fry pan soon... This post has been edited by MelForC3: Jul 22 2011, 02:26 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 22 2011, 01:17 PM) Added on July 22, 2011, 1:23 pm Calorie deficit is necessary to help cut, but that doesn't mean you have to be hungry all the time. Changing up your carbs will help a lot, vegetables are good source of carbs to fill the stomach with pretty much empty calories.So by all means,devour as much as you want. I posted before about slow gradual changes, assess your body based on the mirror or a scale. Heck, I'd suggest you take pictures every week to compare, it'll be a great motivator as well just to see the changes you're making every week. Men generally store body fats around the midsection and the lower back, and your limbs will be the first one to get lean before them midsection b!tches start loosening up. It's all about how bad you want it mate. Let me see if I can get a picture somewhere of my current state. I definitely have a picture of me 44lbs heavier around 13 weeks ago. It's fully clothed though, too shy to show the body. currently have to avoid sweets, chocs, ice cream and any sweet drinks... i'm currently following this insane diet here which i picked up from bb.com forum, can't really find the link now but basically it's low sugar, low fat, low carb. so i'm avoiding all high GI food, fruits included and also dairy products, will see whether there is any changes after few weeks. |
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Jul 22 2011, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 22 2011, 02:13 PM) Cant believe that u r that heavy before O.O |
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Jul 22 2011, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(jamis @ Jul 22 2011, 02:13 PM) The chicken smell will get funny if kept in the fridge over long period :S Within a week should be fine, never had any problems with them. If you're still cautious, try freezing every meal in zip lock bags. SHOULD last much longerQUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 22 2011, 02:24 PM) I jealouss....!! If you can find them spray on cooking oil, you can save on the frying pan. Problem is there isn't any spraying cooking oil to be found in ipoh.haha... bro, how long this will finish? Added on July 22, 2011, 2:26 pmOps... slow loading momnet ago... saw it.. keep it up.. going to invest for that non stick fry pan soon... QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jul 22 2011, 02:40 PM) understand that, just that i am a sweet tooth person Man, I used to be at mcdonald's every other day. I ate soo much sugar and junk I had high blood sugar( so close to being diabetic). currently have to avoid sweets, chocs, ice cream and any sweet drinks... i'm currently following this insane diet here which i picked up from bb.com forum, can't really find the link now but basically it's low sugar, low fat, low carb. so i'm avoiding all high GI food, fruits included and also dairy products, will see whether there is any changes after few weeks. Hmm, about bb.com, try going over to Kris Gethin's 12 week hardcore program. That's how I shed 44lbs in 12 weeks. Damn DTP is some crazy ass program. 10 sets, 50 rep, 40 rep,30 rep,20 rep,10 reps,10 ,20,30,40,50. Pyramid weight up peaking at 10, the pyramid back down. . Added on July 22, 2011, 3:48 pmImma b**** for Cutler shirts man, anyone been getting them? This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 22 2011, 03:48 PM |
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Jul 22 2011, 04:10 PM
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ok might try the 12 week program thingy
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Jul 22 2011, 11:55 PM
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a very retard question from me
will re-heating the food lose any nutrition fact eg carbs and protein ? |
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Jul 23 2011, 01:23 AM
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@razorboy. I'm from ipoh too. Which gym do you usually workout in?
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Jul 23 2011, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 22 2011, 11:55 PM) a very retard question from me I remember reading somewhere if you put them over 80degrees or slightly lower it will break down the nutritional values, but I can't really remember. Reheating shouldnt be straight out maximum temperature right? I know my food is warm and that's enough. Not really enough to make them smoke come out like when we're just done cookingwill re-heating the food lose any nutrition fact eg carbs and protein ? This should explain a little bit more. QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 23 2011, 01:23 AM) @razorboy. I'm from ipoh too. Which gym do you usually workout in? VS gym, opposite Sam Poh Tong. I tried out Fitness Embassy once, tried PowerMan, new gym(not bad actually). But I still prefer VS.This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 23 2011, 10:31 AM |
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Jul 23 2011, 11:08 AM
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i used to workout in VS gym last year when i started my 1st bb-ing hehe..but now move to penang already...
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Jul 23 2011, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 23 2011, 11:08 AM) i used to workout in VS gym last year when i started my 1st bb-ing hehe..but now move to penang already... ahh man... U studying in Penang? Working? |
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Jul 23 2011, 11:54 AM
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What is the price for VS Gym?
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Jul 23 2011, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 23 2011, 11:54 AM) What is the price for VS Gym? U over 21? or under 21? registration is a 170 and 100 each month for non-student, 50 each month for student. Im 21 this year, but i joined 3 years back. It's a lifetime membership.Added on July 23, 2011, 1:12 pm QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 23 2011, 01:09 PM) U over 21? or under 21? registration is a 170 and 100 each month for non-student, 50 each month for student. Im 21 this year, but i joined 3 years back. It's a lifetime membership. I can get you a free per entry once if you're interested to join. Been a regular for almost a year nowThis post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 23 2011, 01:12 PM |
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I have a question here.
Instead of doing the bulking/cutting phase WhAt happens if Workout day - eat as normal with additional 500 calories to grow which of course comes with very low fat Resting day a 500 calories deficit for the body to tap into fats for energy thus losing fats Overall won't we grow muscles without fats in a slow pace? And not lok fat in the process heh |
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Jul 23 2011, 05:31 PM
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Food whoring again
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Jul 23 2011, 07:33 PM
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We should make a proper food thread. Lol
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Jul 23 2011, 08:12 PM
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Bananas! I miss them so much
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Jul 23 2011, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(swks26 @ Jul 23 2011, 08:12 PM) Bananas! I miss them so much haha. i got a 'tandan' of them in my house right now. picked up from my farm $14 per kg here in Australia... will be giving out to neighbors cause its too much for me to eat |
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Hi guys im trying to broaden my shoulder, the width of my shoulder i mean. im working hard on my deltoids with exercises like shoulder press, lateral raises, upright rows and etc.
is there any other part of muscles i should work on besides deltoids? |
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Jul 24 2011, 11:22 PM
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Having wide lats, well built shoulders and a small waist all work towards giving you a better V-taper.
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Jul 24 2011, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jul 24 2011, 11:15 PM) Hi guys im trying to broaden my shoulder, the width of my shoulder i mean. im working hard on my deltoids with exercises like shoulder press, lateral raises, upright rows and etc. heavy low rep flat barbell bench as wellis there any other part of muscles i should work on besides deltoids? |
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Jul 25 2011, 12:11 AM
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hi!
im new here, im 176" 105kg, my ideal BMI is 75kg(if not mistaken), need some suggestion on my dinner,what is the latest time should i take my dinner? coz many people said i should not eat at night if want to slim |
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Jul 25 2011, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 23 2011, 11:10 AM) ahh man... U studying in Penang? Working? working in penang bro... workout in gym nation |
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Jul 25 2011, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 25 2011, 09:04 AM) working in penang bro... workout in gym nation When u come back, let's have a workout session man. I'm sure I can pick up a lot from someor that's lifted much longer than me |
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Jul 25 2011, 05:59 PM
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heres a video for u bodybuilding brahs here.. mind=blown |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 25 2011, 01:20 PM) When u come back, let's have a workout session man. I'm sure I can pick up a lot from someor that's lifted much longer than me i jz started a year back, still trying to improve... when want to join ? haha... im hitting the gym in few more couple minutes...where do u workout?? |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 25 2011, 06:02 PM) i jz started a year back, still trying to improve... when want to join ? haha... im hitting the gym in few more couple minutes... when you're in ipoh la bro. where do u workout??  . |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 25 2011, 05:59 PM) heres a video for u bodybuilding brahs here.. Damn!mind=blown His/Her back was awesome Miracles of HRT. |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:17 PM
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and here we are busting our asses off, following diets and supplementation to get something like that, and he went and...
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Jul 25 2011, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 25 2011, 05:59 PM) heres a video for u bodybuilding brahs here.. mind=blown Respect, nonetheless, to him/her.He/she(I'm a bit confused here ) had some sick wheels and back! |
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Jul 25 2011, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jul 25 2011, 06:37 PM) Now, I was not expecting that. Respect, nonetheless, to him/her.He/she(I'm a bit confused here ) had some sick wheels and back! she's hot |
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Jul 25 2011, 08:25 PM
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omg, i dont dare to look at his chest after transformation .....
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Jul 25 2011, 08:26 PM
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any professional bodybuilder here go jogging? if yes, how frequent in a week do you jog?
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Jul 25 2011, 09:04 PM
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i think here dont have pro bodybuilder ...
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Jul 25 2011, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 25 2011, 09:04 PM) i think here dont have pro bodybuilder ... professional no..competitive yes..kmaru and john91 |
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Jul 25 2011, 10:52 PM
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 LOL! |
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Jul 25 2011, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jul 25 2011, 10:52 PM) LOL! HGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA |
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Jul 25 2011, 11:24 PM
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many bb.com trolls here HAHA
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Jul 26 2011, 02:13 AM
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Wonder if u guys use the same nick on bb
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I wonder, during cutting phase, is it alright to have a drastic drop in calories to make the body burn fats faster while maintaining the same amount of protein intake per day
With workout as well? With 5-6 meals per day I'm losing weight like 1.5 kg per week and my arms are getting smaller |
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Jul 26 2011, 02:23 AM
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why would you want to cut so fast in the first place. full of lol..
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Jul 26 2011, 02:45 AM
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QUOTE(Sheldon88 @ Jul 26 2011, 02:23 AM) why would you want to cut so fast in the first place. full of lol.. Doesnt it speak for itself? By making the body burn more fats with the drop in calories per day which will also lower the metabolism overtime.Do you know what ur talking or asking before u speak? Speaking in that manner just proves ur a 23 yr old air head This post has been edited by KKautocar: Jul 26 2011, 02:47 AM |
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Jul 26 2011, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(KKautocar @ Jul 26 2011, 02:45 AM) Doesnt it speak for itself? By making the body burn more fats with the drop in calories per day which will also lower the metabolism overtime. lol. look at his other post. he is trying to hard mang. pity that kid. Do you know what ur talking or asking before u speak? Speaking in that manner just proves ur a 23 yr old air head |
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Jul 26 2011, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jul 26 2011, 02:17 AM) I wonder, during cutting phase, is it alright to have a drastic drop in calories to make the body burn fats faster while maintaining the same amount of protein intake per day I'm not sure what you are trying to do , but to my knowledge, if you drop your carbs too low, your metabolism will slam shut to save energy.With workout as well? With 5-6 meals per day I'm losing weight like 1.5 kg per week and my arms are getting smaller |
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Jul 26 2011, 09:43 AM
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you're in a cutting phase, of course you're getting smaller. losing 1.5 kg per week to me is quite okay i think, since you'll lose water weight as well. are you doing cardio? dont cut carbs off totally too, you still need carbs even though you're in a cutting phase
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Jul 26 2011, 10:17 AM
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try to limit your weight lost to 1.5lbs per week (Layne Norton). Max is 2lbs (other bber) per week. So you dont lose too much of your muscle.
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Jul 26 2011, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 26 2011, 09:43 AM) you're in a cutting phase, of course you're getting smaller. losing 1.5 kg per week to me is quite okay i think, since you'll lose water weight as well. are you doing cardio? dont cut carbs off totally too, you still need carbs even though you're in a cutting phase Yes i started of bulking 3 mnths ago with som belly fats and my pants are starting to feel tight so i decided to lose some fats first before continiung. So far its working but at the end of the 2nd week i noticed my arms are getting smaller. Still having carbs for main meals mainly noodles oats cereals or rice and i do intense cardio for an hour 3 times a week |
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Jul 26 2011, 10:38 AM
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you're still lifting weights too right?
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Jul 26 2011, 10:59 AM
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I only take carbs in the morning..my carb source only Oat... is that sufficient then?
get hungry really fast sigh... |
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Jul 26 2011, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 26 2011, 10:38 AM) you're still lifting weights too right? Yep 3 times a week split routine.Heavy weight 8-10 reps each set Added on July 26, 2011, 12:19 pm QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 26 2011, 10:59 AM) I only take carbs in the morning..my carb source only Oat... is that sufficient then? I get hungry too especially at night when low in calories.get hungry really fast sigh... Out of 6 meals, 2 meals will consist of only protein shake 26 g, apple and some wheat crackers for abit of calories so therefore should not have adrastic drop in calories consumption but i do intense cardio during offdays tho. Protein intake should be around 150-160g per day as i weight at 83 kg, 179cm This post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Jul 26 2011, 12:19 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 12:27 PM
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night time usually only 6 egg white + a shake before sleep...
4 breast per day zzz.... hvg trouble to take it anymore because of the taste lol but still taking it after so long... |
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Jul 26 2011, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(KKautocar @ Jul 26 2011, 02:13 AM) Wonder if u guys use the same nick on bb u misc-er? bertstare.jpgQUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jul 26 2011, 02:17 AM) I wonder, during cutting phase, is it alright to have a drastic drop in calories to make the body burn fats faster while maintaining the same amount of protein intake per day yes ..i lost 8kg in a month when i was cutting for a competition recently..2meals of carbs for meal 1 and 2.then the rest just proteins and vege..With workout as well? With 5-6 meals per day I'm losing weight like 1.5 kg per week and my arms are getting smaller of course i did jog immediately when i woke up and work out as well.. arms getting smaller is normal..u willl gain back the weight..ive gained about 5kg since i stopped my cutting phase This post has been edited by Aztec: Jul 26 2011, 12:46 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 02:38 PM
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lol you're 83kg 179 cm, - 1.5kg per week, you're 77kg 179cm after 4 weeks rofl..who you think you are some big ass bodybuilders weighing 100+kg?
you sir is losing muscle rather than fat and that is stupid. people don't like to hear bad stuff bout themselves though so i guess i'll have to say good progress nice pecs and delts, keep us aware of your progress mang. thanks for the motivation. and to KKautocar screw you =) This post has been edited by Sheldon88: Jul 26 2011, 02:56 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 02:44 PM
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guys, what is the right order to eat lipo-6? how many pills a day?
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Jul 26 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(KKautocar @ Jul 26 2011, 02:45 AM) Doesnt it speak for itself? By making the body burn more fats with the drop in calories per day which will also lower the metabolism overtime. How about you cut the attitude and play nice?Do you know what ur talking or asking before u speak? Speaking in that manner just proves ur a 23 yr old air head |
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Jul 26 2011, 03:16 PM
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i dun know abt u, but lipo didn't work anything for me...
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Jul 26 2011, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Jul 26 2011, 03:16 PM) i dun know abt u, but lipo didn't work anything for me... really?? you demotivated me just now... |
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Jul 26 2011, 04:00 PM
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doesn't work 10/10 for me either, just more energy during workout. that's all.
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Jul 26 2011, 07:34 PM
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...olution_phase_5
a must read. the DL and squat videos are gems! will be trying box squats next leg day and gonna improve on technique for conventional DL tomorrow! |
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Jul 26 2011, 08:26 PM
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anyone know per entry small gym around seberang jaya area?????? !!!
i will be working there whole day not in Penang... !! felt uncomfort without workout !! |
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Jul 26 2011, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 26 2011, 07:34 PM) http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...olution_phase_5 Good thing! But it's more on powerlifting?a must read. the DL and squat videos are gems! will be trying box squats next leg day and gonna improve on technique for conventional DL tomorrow! Added on July 26, 2011, 8:39 pm QUOTE(theCrab @ Jul 26 2011, 08:26 PM) anyone know per entry small gym around seberang jaya area?????? !!! Not familiar with the area. But just single day? Do pushups, lunges, squats with no weights, types of body weight exercises. Or you hit hard weights the few days before.Run around and do some cardio that day. It's still a workout after all.i will be working there whole day not in Penang... !! felt uncomfort without workout !! This post has been edited by van_takawa: Jul 26 2011, 08:39 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM
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darkie I think I saw you in UMMC last Wednesday (waiting for the lift? - everyone waits for the bloody lift)
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Jul 26 2011, 11:48 PM
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one thing i hate about bb'ing is, imagine u've had the ideal number of carbs and protein ratio and fats for the day, suddenly u cant go gym due to work/illness/emergency
then there's the fear that all you've eaten will simply turn into fat and shrink you crap isnt it This post has been edited by gtoforce: Jul 26 2011, 11:49 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Jul 26 2011, 08:36 PM) Good thing! But it's more on powerlifting? for the bench yes its more powerlifting style, theres no BB style to squat and DLand ive tried benching powerlifting style, definitely could lift more lol This post has been edited by mikehuan: Jul 26 2011, 11:56 PM |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:39 AM
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hello everyone. have been loitering here for quite some time d. first time posting anything here. I just a few questions about BB
I always want to bulk up a bit and I did pack on 10kg in 2 years. But i still look skinny. Partly because I am inconsistent in training and i'm not having proper diet. Ya, i know all my vice however, i think my main problem is with my cardio. I'm a long-distance runner. i run up to 2 full marathons a year and when i prepare for my marathons, i seldom have time to lift weight (i have to run 4-5 times a week to hit like at least 50km++ a week). so, is there anyone here who runs regularly but still manages to bulk up? I know i have to choose either one of them but any sifu here can advice a bit on this? Thanks in advance. |
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Jul 27 2011, 11:59 AM
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yes, sheldon. here also see you lol
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Jul 27 2011, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(sihan89 @ Jul 27 2011, 10:39 AM) hello everyone. have been loitering here for quite some time d. first time posting anything here. I just a few questions about BB dean karnazes! ultra marathoner but not skinny like others ho2I always want to bulk up a bit and I did pack on 10kg in 2 years. But i still look skinny. Partly because I am inconsistent in training and i'm not having proper diet. Ya, i know all my vice however, i think my main problem is with my cardio. I'm a long-distance runner. i run up to 2 full marathons a year and when i prepare for my marathons, i seldom have time to lift weight (i have to run 4-5 times a week to hit like at least 50km++ a week). so, is there anyone here who runs regularly but still manages to bulk up? I know i have to choose either one of them but any sifu here can advice a bit on this? Thanks in advance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes i read sumwhere he eat piza while running, eat lotsa carb  i used to be a runner but now stop edy... |
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Jul 27 2011, 12:50 PM
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everyday lunch box for cutting he3...
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Jul 27 2011, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jul 27 2011, 12:38 PM) dean karnazes! ultra marathoner but not skinny like others ho2 haha. Dean Karnazes is my idol. he is an ultramarathoner. ya i do like his kind of toned body.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes i read sumwhere he eat piza while running, eat lotsa carb i used to be a runner but now stop edy... |
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Jul 27 2011, 03:47 PM
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every1s' body response differently.
lipo didn't work for me, but it might for u |
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Jul 27 2011, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 27 2011, 12:50 PM) everyday lunch box for cutting he3... I once have a cutting diet similar to what you have with only boil chicken breast without salt, vege and little nuts (just wanted to experiment with my body and not for any competition).And i get quite lean but not to the level of the competive bodybuilder. I donno how do they do it to get really ripped. For me it's the most suffering phase in bodybuilding ... |
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Jul 27 2011, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jul 27 2011, 04:05 PM) I once have a cutting diet similar to what you have with only boil chicken breast without salt, vege and little nuts (just wanted to experiment with my body and not for any competition). agree with you.. need to be patient and really have the passion during cutting...And i get quite lean but not to the level of the competive bodybuilder. I donno how do they do it to get really ripped. For me it's the most suffering phase in bodybuilding ... I never have six pack in my life before, i hope i can do it once so i just try out... to get into the level of bodybuilder, really need time, determination, discipline and sweat... I've been eating like this for 2 weeks and really crave for big meal but still manage to control... |
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Jul 27 2011, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 27 2011, 05:45 PM) agree with you.. need to be patient and really have the passion during cutting... how much do u spent on ur meal ( from breakfast to supper) a day..I never have six pack in my life before, i hope i can do it once so i just try out... to get into the level of bodybuilder, really need time, determination, discipline and sweat... I've been eating like this for 2 weeks and really crave for big meal but still manage to control... i cant afford to eat that much of chicken breast according to ur pic coz its like rm20 per kg.. |
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Jul 27 2011, 05:53 PM
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You guys ever add up how much you spend a day on nutrition and supplementation?
Mine is around Rm45.... |
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Jul 27 2011, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(mollymurder @ Jul 27 2011, 06:05 PM) how much do u spent on ur meal ( from breakfast to supper) a day.. u sure tat expensive?i cant afford to eat that much of chicken breast according to ur pic coz its like rm20 per kg.. buy frm ayamas then very cheap only around rm10 - 12 per kg |
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Jul 27 2011, 07:35 PM
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i duno man coz i dont go pasar..i jz ask my mum to buy it for me and thats wat she said..prolly its 1 bird i think i misheard..
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Jul 27 2011, 08:42 PM
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what do u guys think about stronglifts.com?
it says split training is CRAP (which I've always been doing) and i have difficulty understanding what it says about the form.. that's why i haven't start the program. HELP. oh i haven't really train with the barbel in my life. just dumbbells work. |
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Jul 27 2011, 08:55 PM
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split is crap for beginners but not for pro body builders.
the general concept of stronglift is eat a lot + lift heavy > gain it doesn't really build that much muscle though but your strength will go up very very fast, it's a strength program after all. if you're just starting off you probably want to start with that to build some strength first as a base and then you can jump to body building style of training when you get tired of it there aren't many pros here really, just a couple of people like darklight bata ken etc etc who really knows what they are doing..too much broscience here dude. do some search on bb.com/tnation and such but avoid being eaten raw by marketing scheme. haha This post has been edited by Sheldon88: Jul 27 2011, 08:56 PM |
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Jul 27 2011, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM) darkie I think I saw you in UMMC last Wednesday (waiting for the lift? - everyone waits for the bloody lift) Yeah could be. |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:26 PM
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Testing new cycle.
Protein blend. Creatine Mono. Pwo - Kinda fatigued after work, this helps. SPM. BCAAs and Citrulline Malate - Xtend (Burning a hole in my wallet at the rate I'm going through it) Diet caloric intake remains unchanged, though fat burn cardio incorporated after workouts to lean out. 3-4 lifting days, 2 cardio days and 1 rest day. I thought with the increased cardio I might see a drop in weight, but it's a 2 kg gain in 9 days. |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 27 2011, 10:26 PM) Testing new cycle. probably waterProtein blend. Creatine Mono. Pwo - Kinda fatigued after work, this helps. SPM. BCAAs and Citrulline Malate - Xtend (Burning a hole in my wallet at the rate I'm going through it) Diet caloric intake remains unchanged, though fat burn cardio incorporated after workouts to lean out. 3-4 lifting days, 2 cardio days and 1 rest day. I thought with the increased cardio I might see a drop in weight, but it's a 2 kg gain in 9 days. i gain from 61 to 65 because of water. went back to 61 the second i layed off water |
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Jul 27 2011, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(KJxSolar @ Jul 27 2011, 10:47 PM) probably water Guessing it's water as well, too quick to be anything else. It just jumped at the end of the first week.i gain from 61 to 65 because of water. went back to 61 the second i layed off water |
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Jul 28 2011, 09:23 AM
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how much do i spent.. well i don't really calculate much but i can giv a list for a week.
4 hl milk x RM 6.29 (new with plant sterol) 18 piece chicken breast + 2 chicken = RM 78 which i bought last saturday vege (tomato, cucumber, lettuce ++) = around RM 10 4 box of egg( 10 eggs each) x RM 4.20 2 wholemeal bread ( gardenia or high 5) x RM 3.20 cheese/nut/seed = didn't calculate because it can last quite long only lunch time, sometime the chicken too plain or too hungry, one economy rice just cost me Rm2.00 - 2.50 (rice and veggie) there goes for a week.. not including protein and other stuff... costly? |
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Jul 28 2011, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 09:23 AM) how much do i spent.. well i don't really calculate much but i can giv a list for a week. Why dont you buy the whole tray of 30eggs instead? that would be like Rm10 only.4 hl milk x RM 6.29 (new with plant sterol) 18 piece chicken breast + 2 chicken = RM 78 which i bought last saturday vege (tomato, cucumber, lettuce ++) = around RM 10 4 box of egg( 10 eggs each) x RM 4.20 2 wholemeal bread ( gardenia or high 5) x RM 3.20 cheese/nut/seed = didn't calculate because it can last quite long only lunch time, sometime the chicken too plain or too hungry, one economy rice just cost me Rm2.00 - 2.50 (rice and veggie) there goes for a week.. not including protein and other stuff... costly? |
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Jul 28 2011, 09:30 AM
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I take omega 3 egg.. i prefer that one hehe... my housemate bought the 30 eggs and i found it taste quite funny compare to the omega3..
Are you buying that? |
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Jul 28 2011, 09:31 AM
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can also buy kampung eggs which costs around rm12 per tray i think...
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Jul 28 2011, 09:41 AM
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prepare half boiled egg with kampung egg is good
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Jul 28 2011, 09:44 AM
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not sure about supermarket but usually can b found in pasar malam/pagi
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thanks for the info!!
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 10:23 AM) how much do i spent.. well i don't really calculate much but i can giv a list for a week. nais hehe..approx rm500-550 not including supp...4 hl milk x RM 6.29 (new with plant sterol) 18 piece chicken breast + 2 chicken = RM 78 which i bought last saturday vege (tomato, cucumber, lettuce ++) = around RM 10 4 box of egg( 10 eggs each) x RM 4.20 2 wholemeal bread ( gardenia or high 5) x RM 3.20 cheese/nut/seed = didn't calculate because it can last quite long only lunch time, sometime the chicken too plain or too hungry, one economy rice just cost me Rm2.00 - 2.50 (rice and veggie) there goes for a week.. not including protein and other stuff... costly? |
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Jul 28 2011, 10:48 AM
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i try to save but most of my money goes to food and supplement.. >.<"
i still happy because at least i see some result. I'll be very angry if my diet screw up because feel very wasteful... guess everyone is the same... |
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Jul 28 2011, 11:33 AM
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Tesco was on sale on Eggs last week. Per Tray of A grade eggs(30) was only 10.79. I bought 4 tray .Hee
Added on July 28, 2011, 11:38 am QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 09:53 AM) thanks for the info!! I'm not using animal pak, but it's about swallowing a shit load of pills day and night isn't it? But I suppose it's more than just a multivit. I'm using AST MultiPro32xBtw, anyone using animal pak? This post has been edited by razorboy: Jul 28 2011, 11:38 AM |
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QUOTE(MrTaxxi @ Jul 27 2011, 08:42 PM) what do u guys think about stronglifts.com? It's quite simple. Want to look like a bodybuilder train like one. Want to look like a powerlifter, train like one. Cause and effect. Some idiots will say train like a powerlifter eat like a bodybuilder. Meh... A powerlifter will still look like a powerlifter no matter how much he diets down. Sure some will use examples like Ronnie Coleman and Johnny Jackson as bodybuilders who came from powerlifting backgrounds but for every one of those, there is a successful bodybuilder who did a bodybuilding split from day 1 of training.it says split training is CRAP (which I've always been doing) and i have difficulty understanding what it says about the form.. that's why i haven't start the program. HELP. oh i haven't really train with the barbel in my life. just dumbbells work. |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 28 2011, 12:04 PM) It's quite simple. Want to look like a bodybuilder train like one. Want to look like a powerlifter, train like one. Cause and effect. Some idiots will say train like a powerlifter eat like a bodybuilder. Meh... A powerlifter will still look like a powerlifter no matter how much he diets down. Sure some will use examples like Ronnie Coleman and Johnny Jackson as bodybuilders who came from powerlifting backgrounds but for every one of those, there is a successful bodybuilder who did a bodybuilding split from day 1 of training. And even if they came from powerlifting, they still used splits when they switched to bodybuilding. However we can't really compare ourselves to pros. There just too many varriables to consider. Do what you think its best for YOU.I do agree starting strength is great for beginners. Ain't gonna do much if you're benching 20 kilos for months on end |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 09:23 AM) how much do i spent.. well i don't really calculate much but i can giv a list for a week. bro where do u buy your milk? kinda costly. btw any difference in the new HL milk?4 hl milk x RM 6.29 (new with plant sterol) 18 piece chicken breast + 2 chicken = RM 78 which i bought last saturday vege (tomato, cucumber, lettuce ++) = around RM 10 4 box of egg( 10 eggs each) x RM 4.20 2 wholemeal bread ( gardenia or high 5) x RM 3.20 cheese/nut/seed = didn't calculate because it can last quite long only lunch time, sometime the chicken too plain or too hungry, one economy rice just cost me Rm2.00 - 2.50 (rice and veggie) there goes for a week.. not including protein and other stuff... costly? |
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Jul 28 2011, 01:17 PM
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er... I just bought last week in the local store, tesco or the store shall have...
Just the taste a bit different.. HL milk can get around 4.99 when promotion normal price shud be 5.50+- this one is new product so i jz try out... I alwiz mix with my shake so the taste is the same... |
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Jul 28 2011, 01:43 PM
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hmmm im still drinking full cream full hehe.
btw u take any other carbs? your grocery list doesn't seems to have any other starchy carbs besides bread |
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Jul 28 2011, 01:47 PM
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I prefer low fat
yup... I only take 3 spoon of oat in the morning and if im too hungry or looking for more flavourish food, i'll go for economy rice... but 3-4 spoon... This diet only going to last for one month because i try to shred off some fat.. Weekend i'll eat like normal bt still low carb high protein.. |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 09:23 AM) only lunch time, sometime the chicken too plain or too hungry, one economy rice just cost me Rm2.00 - 2.50 (rice and veggie) |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 01:47 PM) I prefer low fat oh. im doing clean bulking so i have to spend more on rice, pasta, raisins, oat.yup... I only take 3 spoon of oat in the morning and if im too hungry or looking for more flavourish food, i'll go for economy rice... but 3-4 spoon... This diet only going to last for one month because i try to shred off some fat.. Weekend i'll eat like normal bt still low carb high protein.. btw u work and pay all these supplies' expenses yourself? man my mum whines non stop as she has to keep stocking up because im still a student |
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Jul 28 2011, 04:13 PM
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im working already... so, some grocery my mum still buy because weekend i'll be back to my hometown as week day im away from home..
supplement wise, some time i pay some time they still pay because she said, "dont use ur money, use mine" haha... my dad quite supportive because he went to gym as well... so he ask me buy supplement also.. I'm happy during bulking haha... i eat whatever i want but still watch for the fat and calorie... no fried food or too oily... sometime 2 chicken per day |
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Jul 28 2011, 10:42 PM
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Supplements in my current stack clocking in at RM 25 per day. On day 10 of this cycle, weight up another kilo for a 3kg gain so far.
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Jul 28 2011, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 04:13 PM) im working already... so, some grocery my mum still buy because weekend i'll be back to my hometown as week day im away from home.. so nice..i hope to have parents like urs supplement wise, some time i pay some time they still pay because she said, "dont use ur money, use mine" haha... my dad quite supportive because he went to gym as well... so he ask me buy supplement also.. I'm happy during bulking haha... i eat whatever i want but still watch for the fat and calorie... no fried food or too oily... sometime 2 chicken per day |
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Jul 28 2011, 11:23 PM
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When u wanna get bulk, do you do drop sets or pyramids during weight training?
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Jul 28 2011, 11:36 PM
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hi guys just wanna post up my progress here
just new kid on the block me 3 month ago @ 93kg  me now @ 78kg  still cutting now currently doing beachbody insanity cardio and add some weight lifting as well This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Jul 28 2011, 11:40 PM |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 28 2011, 04:13 PM) im working already... so, some grocery my mum still buy because weekend i'll be back to my hometown as week day im away from home.. ahh how cool and supportive your parents are supplement wise, some time i pay some time they still pay because she said, "dont use ur money, use mine" haha... my dad quite supportive because he went to gym as well... so he ask me buy supplement also.. I'm happy during bulking haha... i eat whatever i want but still watch for the fat and calorie... no fried food or too oily... sometime 2 chicken per day what supplement u have in your stack? Added on July 29, 2011, 12:53 am QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 28 2011, 11:36 PM) hi guys just wanna post up my progress here arms not bad. need more pecs. should post at the picture thread lah bro just new kid on the block me 3 month ago @ 93kg me now @ 78kg still cutting now currently doing beachbody insanity cardio and add some weight lifting as well btw ON 100% whey gold standard user? saw the tube under the desk This post has been edited by The Silent Killer: Jul 29 2011, 12:53 AM |
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Jul 29 2011, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 29 2011, 12:36 AM) hi guys just wanna post up my progress here this is crazy man.... just new kid on the block me 3 month ago @ 93kg me now @ 78kg still cutting now currently doing beachbody insanity cardio and add some weight lifting as well just 3 months so much transformation mind to share ur routine? lol |
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Jul 29 2011, 09:19 AM
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currently, myo n animal pak only.. finish my hemorage and m-stak...
others like fish oil, glucosamine , bcaa.. Yesterday i went to weight myself, i already lost 4kg since last week. Actually is a bad news because im losing size.. Maybe need to take up extra carb in my current diet.. |
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Jul 29 2011, 10:20 AM
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nice progress
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Jul 29 2011, 02:54 PM
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the arms are superb. looks extremely diff.
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Jul 29 2011, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Jul 29 2011, 06:54 AM) the arms are superb. looks extremely diff. thanks  actually this was me last year august, after that i got into office job and stop doing excercise. maggi supper almost everyday lol...until this year may when i say enough is enough Added on July 29, 2011, 4:26 pmbtw I need to ask on chest exercise. do i need to lift heavier or more reps? I did bench press at home but due to limited weight i can only do more reps instead of more reps, like up to 20 reps per set, and its not really showing progress.... This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Jul 29 2011, 04:26 PM |
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 29 2011, 04:10 PM) thanks bro, how tall are you?actually this was me last year august, after that i got into office job and stop doing excercise. maggi supper almost everyday lol...until this year may when i say enough is enough Added on July 29, 2011, 4:26 pmbtw I need to ask on chest exercise. do i need to lift heavier or more reps? I did bench press at home but due to limited weight i can only do more reps instead of more reps, like up to 20 reps per set, and its not really showing progress.... |
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Jul 29 2011, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jul 29 2011, 08:30 AM) bro, how tall are you? around 175cm |
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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jul 28 2011, 04:01 PM) oh. im doing clean bulking so i have to spend more on rice, pasta, raisins, oat. my parents too do keep nagging about the supplements that i get especially when the bill hit rm600plus last month.btw u work and pay all these supplies' expenses yourself? man my mum whines non stop as she has to keep stocking up because im still a student where are you studying bro ? Added on July 29, 2011, 7:03 pm QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 29 2011, 07:00 PM) my parents too do keep nagging about the supplements that i get especially when the bill hit rm600plus last month. greetings guys, what are good type of exercises to build my chest ?where are you studying bro ? This post has been edited by shankar_dass93: Jul 29 2011, 07:03 PM |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 29 2011, 11:00 AM) my parents too do keep nagging about the supplements that i get especially when the bill hit rm600plus last month. its all ok when they see their son got six packs and healthy where are you studying bro ? |
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Jul 29 2011, 07:56 PM
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Guys, which peanut butter brand is the best? Like lowest content of sugar
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 29 2011, 07:19 PM) its all ok when they see their son got six packs and healthy lol. btw, where do you train bro ? |
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 29 2011, 07:56 PM) Guys, which peanut butter brand is the best? Like lowest content of sugar find in hypermarket got no sugar peanut butter. Steffi's ... |
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Jul 29 2011, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 29 2011, 11:56 AM) lol. btw, where do you train bro ? I train at home |
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Jul 29 2011, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jul 29 2011, 08:56 PM) Guys, which peanut butter brand is the best? Like lowest content of sugar u can try CED brand with no sugar but there is oil..tesco and family store are selling it around rm8-9 |
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 29 2011, 04:10 PM) btw I need to ask on chest exercise. do i need to lift heavier or more reps? with limited weights, you could;I did bench press at home but due to limited weight i can only do more reps instead of more reps, like up to 20 reps per set, and its not really showing progress.... 1) Add in plyo pushups in between sets. 2) or warm up with kinetic stretches for chest before benching. It helps to activate the smaller muscle fibres. 3) or you could do 1 set of maybe 20-40 reps bench-dips/diamond pushups first before you start benching. Wear out your triceps so you could engage more chest. 4) play with tempo. vary it. try 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2, or just be creative! (eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted) just my two cents. |
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jul 30 2011, 11:16 PM) with limited weights, you could; may i know what is 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2 ?1) Add in plyo pushups in between sets. 2) or warm up with kinetic stretches for chest before benching. It helps to activate the smaller muscle fibres. 3) or you could do 1 set of maybe 20-40 reps bench-dips/diamond pushups first before you start benching. Wear out your triceps so you could engage more chest. 4) play with tempo. vary it. try 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2, or just be creative! (eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted) just my two cents. This post has been edited by alexooi17: Jul 30 2011, 11:39 PM |
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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 29 2011, 09:19 AM) currently, myo n animal pak only.. finish my hemorage and m-stak... yeah myo FTW. i only take this as im too poor for any other supplements others like fish oil, glucosamine , bcaa.. Yesterday i went to weight myself, i already lost 4kg since last week. Actually is a bad news because im losing size.. Maybe need to take up extra carb in my current diet.. 4kg in a week is too much. i believe it does affect your size quite significantly. you need to cut slowly man Added on July 31, 2011, 1:13 am QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 29 2011, 07:00 PM) my parents too do keep nagging about the supplements that i get especially when the bill hit rm600plus last month. currently doing civil engineering in UTAR. as for my supplement i only finish one tube of myofusion every 2 months so still consider ok for me. its the food that made my mum nag where are you studying bro ? Added on July 29, 2011, 7:03 pm greetings guys, what are good type of exercises to build my chest ? This post has been edited by The Silent Killer: Jul 31 2011, 01:13 AM |
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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jul 31 2011, 01:11 AM) yeah myo FTW. i only take this as im too poor for any other supplements some of you kids eat more supps than me. 4kg in a week is too much. i believe it does affect your size quite significantly. you need to cut slowly man Added on July 31, 2011, 1:13 am currently doing civil engineering in UTAR. as for my supplement i only finish one tube of myofusion every 2 months so still consider ok for me. its the food that made my mum nag |
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jul 30 2011, 03:16 PM) with limited weights, you could; man, I couldnt understand almost half of it 1) Add in plyo pushups in between sets. 2) or warm up with kinetic stretches for chest before benching. It helps to activate the smaller muscle fibres. 3) or you could do 1 set of maybe 20-40 reps bench-dips/diamond pushups first before you start benching. Wear out your triceps so you could engage more chest. 4) play with tempo. vary it. try 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2, or just be creative! (eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted) just my two cents. whats kinetic stretches? whats 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2? whats eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted? |
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 31 2011, 09:04 AM) man, I couldnt understand almost half of it How about you go read about it?whats kinetic stretches? whats 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2? whats eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted? |
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 31 2011, 09:04 AM) man, I couldnt understand almost half of it i think this is the one ??whats kinetic stretches? whats 8-1-2-1, or 5-0-5-2? whats eccentric-stretched-concentric-contracted? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tempo.htm |
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Jul 31 2011, 11:33 AM) LOL. This is the one. Congrats ! You FOUND it!But did you learn something from it? |
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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jul 31 2011, 01:11 AM) yeah myo FTW. i only take this as im too poor for any other supplements which utar campus are you from ? the one near subang ? i am form taylors lakeside campus. where do you train bro ? 4kg in a week is too much. i believe it does affect your size quite significantly. you need to cut slowly man Added on July 31, 2011, 1:13 am currently doing civil engineering in UTAR. as for my supplement i only finish one tube of myofusion every 2 months so still consider ok for me. its the food that made my mum nag |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2011, 09:24 PM) which utar campus are you from ? the one near subang ? i am form taylors lakeside campus. where do you train bro ? setapak campus. i train nearby my house. around cheras area |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jul 31 2011, 09:24 PM) which utar campus are you from ? the one near subang ? i am form taylors lakeside campus. where do you train bro ? taylors lakeside here too...shitty ass campus doesnt even have a gym |
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very informative article
Dr. Jim Stoppani's 8 Nutrition Rules For Building Maximum Muscle! http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dr-jim-sto...mum-muscle.html |
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Aug 1 2011, 10:12 AM
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nice article.. thanks for sharing
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jul 31 2011, 10:01 PM) taylors lakeside here too...shitty ass campus doesnt even have a gym cool. what course are you studying ? theres a gym above the commercial block area. they supposed to have opened it by this year. too bad its not open yet. theres no equipments tooo there lol. |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Aug 1 2011, 05:56 PM) cool. what course are you studying ? quantity surveying..u?theres a gym above the commercial block area. they supposed to have opened it by this year. too bad its not open yet. theres no equipments tooo there lol. yeah the place with the swimming pool..prolly thought it was not such a good idea to have a gym once they saw the bill..and still they can charge us rm3 for parking.. btw where u train? |
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QUOTE(jphlau @ Aug 1 2011, 09:44 AM) very informative article theres something weird in the article. how can one consume 1/3 of total fat from omega-3. Thats a lot of Omega-3 to takeDr. Jim Stoppani's 8 Nutrition Rules For Building Maximum Muscle! http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dr-jim-sto...mum-muscle.html |
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Aug 1 2011, 07:06 PM
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even my uni have a gym, i still dont have chance to be there. the people inside are like canned mackerel or something.
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for those who duno how to do pullups let a crab teach u
strong lats |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Aug 1 2011, 09:13 PM) for those who duno how to do pullups let a crab teach u Respect!strong lats |
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Guys, wanna ask sth about whey protein consumption. I have Myofusion now and let's say i wanna consume 3 scoops per day. Which one would be a better combination?
1) 1 scoop after wake up + 1 scoop post workout + 1 scoop before bed, OR 2) 1 scoop after wake up + 2 scoops post workout Will this make a difference since I am consuming the same amount of protein per day? This post has been edited by ChipZ: Aug 1 2011, 11:42 PM |
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Aug 1 2011, 11:41 PM) Guys, wanna ask sth about whey protein consumption. I have Myofusion now and let's say i wanna consume 3 scoops per day. Which one would be a better combination? or why dont u take 1 1/2 scoops as pre workout and 1 1/2 as post workout.1) 1 scoop after wake up + 1 scoop post workout + 1 scoop before bed, OR 2) 1 scoop after wake up + 2 scoops post workout Will this make a difference since I am consuming the same amount of protein per day? |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Aug 1 2011, 11:48 PM) or why dont u take 1 1/2 scoops as pre workout and 1 1/2 as post workout. I used to do this when i started consuming whey protein but I'm afraid it will be too 'concentrated' at one time. Thats why i need to ask if it makes any difference if I take whey at different time |
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Slim, fit and super defined.
http://youtu.be/-HTD8AUG3Vc This post has been edited by tineagle: Aug 2 2011, 03:13 AM |
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Aug 1 2011, 11:48 PM) or why dont u take 1 1/2 scoops as pre workout and 1 1/2 as post workout. I usually prefer to take food with carb rather than protein for pre wo. Protein shake kinda lasts quite long b4 I could take NO. |
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Aug 1 2011, 09:13 PM) for those who duno how to do pullups let a crab teach u Is that a one finger one arm pull up I'm seeing there at the end? Epic!strong lats |
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Aug 1 2011, 07:05 PM) theres something weird in the article. how can one consume 1/3 of total fat from omega-3. Thats a lot of Omega-3 to take it does not have to be from pills form. Can be from fish or other source of food.. |
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2nd meal of the day. rice underneath all that chicken,egg and bell pepper. This post has been edited by razorboy: Aug 2 2011, 08:50 AM |
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What a TEMPTATION CHALLENGE for others that are fasting...
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Aug 2 2011, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(van_takawa @ Aug 2 2011, 12:34 PM) What a TEMPTATION CHALLENGE for others that are fasting... hahaha.. "Like"BERDOSAnya... |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:04 PM
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1981561
not chastising him in any way..but really? really??? why does the general public think protein is like steroids eh.. friend sees me after about 4months him:"wow u got big! so u taking tht protein stuff?" me:"yeah" him:"no wonder laaaaaaaaaa..i also wanna get buff,which protein u recommend" me:  |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:08 PM
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i guess thats normal... a couple of day back, i met a friend who i last seen 6 months ago.. we met at gym back then.
So, that night he is like staring at me and said "whoa, how come so big size? cucuk ka?" i was like zzz..... almost the people i met, always said "cucuk ka".. even the place where i buy my chicken also asking... |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:19 PM
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i wanna ask 1 question..the empty bar that is use for bench press..how much is the weight tho..my friend told me it is 20kg ??is it that heavy..
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Aug 2 2011, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Aug 2 2011, 02:19 PM) i wanna ask 1 question..the empty bar that is use for bench press..how much is the weight tho..my friend told me it is 20kg ??is it that heavy.. Yes, to the standard ones are 45 lbs. |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Aug 2 2011, 02:22 PM) Yes, to the standard ones are 45 lbs. thanks |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:38 PM
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How about the empty bar of Smith machine?
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Aug 2 2011, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Aug 2 2011, 02:38 PM) How about the empty bar of Smith machine? i think there is a label somewhere at the machine.. 15lbs i guess |
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Aug 2 2011, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Aug 2 2011, 02:53 PM) i think there is a label somewhere at the machine.. 15lbs i guess Yep, the gym that I go to did write down 15 lbs.. but it varies differently for each machine, just search for the label, or perhaps ask one of the trainers |
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Aug 2 2011, 03:54 PM
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watup brah bb?
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Aug 2 2011, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Aug 2 2011, 02:04 PM) http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1981561 i guess thats normal dude.not chastising him in any way..but really? really??? why does the general public think protein is like steroids eh.. friend sees me after about 4months him:"wow u got big! so u taking tht protein stuff?" me:"yeah" him:"no wonder laaaaaaaaaa..i also wanna get buff,which protein u recommend" me: met my old friends after a long time last week. when they saw me they were like Wow your arms are huge man/ Then they said that they are sure that i have been training hard and was on STEROIDS. i was like duhhhhhhhhhh. |
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Aug 2 2011, 06:06 PM
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to burn fat, we need to be in caloric deficit right.
but what if after the weight training, i have depleted my energy/glycogen stores, i hop on the treadmill for about 15-20 mins. did i burn fat at THAT TIME on the treadmill ? lil bit of confused here. help me out. |
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Aug 2 2011, 06:41 PM
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First day trying out Superpump Max. I assumed when the label said to take it 15-45 minutes, that the focus/drive/energy would come in like 20-30 minutes. Instead I got a sudden surge of energy right at the end of my workout, which was about an hour later. And right now, I feel like the Duracell bunny on happy pills.
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Aug 2 2011, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 2 2011, 06:41 PM) First day trying out Superpump Max. I assumed when the label said to take it 15-45 minutes, that the focus/drive/energy would come in like 20-30 minutes. Instead I got a sudden surge of energy right at the end of my workout, which was about an hour later. And right now, I feel like the Duracell bunny on happy pills. LOL...it will subside as you use it longer, had similar effect when I first started... you bought the 40 servings tub? |
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Aug 2 2011, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Aug 2 2011, 06:06 PM) to burn fat, we need to be in caloric deficit right. Yes of course, as long as the glycogen is depleted, the body will tap into fats for energybut what if after the weight training, i have depleted my energy/glycogen stores, i hop on the treadmill for about 15-20 mins. did i burn fat at THAT TIME on the treadmill ? lil bit of confused here. help me out. |
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Aug 2 2011, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Aug 2 2011, 07:05 PM) Yes of course, as long as the glycogen is depleted, the body will tap into fats for energy thanx!currently bulking. got some excess fats. if do this but still maintain the bulking diet should be ok right.? i dont wanna cut yet. |
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Aug 2 2011, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Aug 2 2011, 02:04 PM) http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1981561 Leave them be. I don't know you well enough to comment but a lot of young punks seem to get this elitist I'm better than thou kind of mentality when they start weightlifting for a few years and are far, far, far from getting huge. Not targeting you, just sayin. Take a look at big guys like Kmaru, angrydog, free_enuf... and professionals like Wong Hong and Terry Gallyot. not chastising him in any way..but really? really??? why does the general public think protein is like steroids eh.. friend sees me after about 4months him:"wow u got big! so u taking tht protein stuff?" me:"yeah" him:"no wonder laaaaaaaaaa..i also wanna get buff,which protein u recommend" me: They rarely diss people or act condescending. They educate, not humiliate. Some people need a lesson in humility. Is this why there's never a big attendance in a H & F meetup? =) |
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Aug 2 2011, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 2 2011, 08:17 PM) Leave them be. I don't know you well enough to comment but a lot of young punks seem to get this elitist I'm better than thou kind of mentality when they start weightlifting for a few years and are far, far, far from getting huge. Not targeting you, just sayin. Take a look at big guys like Kmaru, angrydog, free_enuf... and professionals like Wong Hong and Terry Gallyot. Will definitely join a h&f meetup if I could make it!They rarely diss people or act condescending. They educate, not humiliate. Some people need a lesson in humility. Is this why there's never a big attendance in a H & F meetup? =) |
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Aug 2 2011, 09:09 PM
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What's a h&f meet up?
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Aug 2 2011, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(raynx @ Aug 2 2011, 09:09 PM) What's a h&f meet up? Health & Fitness meetup, for the regulars in this section of the boards. |
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Aug 2 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(Aztec @ Aug 2 2011, 02:04 PM) http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1981561 lepak la bro.not chastising him in any way..but really? really??? why does the general public think protein is like steroids eh.. friend sees me after about 4months him:"wow u got big! so u taking tht protein stuff?" me:"yeah" him:"no wonder laaaaaaaaaa..i also wanna get buff,which protein u recommend" me: some of my friends also same.i guess if Bodybuilding is not their interest or not their thing they may not understand that much. hence how they conclude if u get good gains,u must be on something. and that dude on the other thread first time taking kut. |
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Aug 2 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 2 2011, 10:04 PM) Health & Fitness meetup, for the regulars in this section of the boards. cool and when is this meet up ?can i join ? |
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Aug 2 2011, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Aug 2 2011, 07:05 PM) LOL...it will subside as you use it longer, had similar effect when I first started... you bought the 40 servings tub? Heh I'm actually praying it doesn't subside, cause it feels awesome. Though I'll have to take it quite some time before I start training to actually get the effects DURING my workout and not after. XD |
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Aug 3 2011, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 2 2011, 11:42 PM) Heh I'm actually praying it doesn't subside, cause it feels awesome. Though I'll have to take it quite some time before I start training to actually get the effects DURING my workout and not after. XD well.. to be honest.. i dont fell that kind of effects wit sp max. i like the sp250 better. or maybe i should stop taking pre workout for a while.. how long did u guys cycle on pre workout supp? a weeK ? a month? |
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Aug 3 2011, 11:20 AM
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is there a meet up somewhere?
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Aug 3 2011, 11:33 AM
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He only did close grip push up in the video, what about wide grip push up?? what i mean is, does the video say close grip push up better than wide grip?? as far as i know, they work different part of muscle as wide grip gives more tension on pecs. |
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Aug 3 2011, 05:07 PM
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hey dan,
u got a gf rite?...lol jus crackin a joke, no offence... |
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Aug 3 2011, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Aug 3 2011, 05:07 PM) hey dan, which part of it is a joke...? i dun gedit...u got a gf rite?...lol jus crackin a joke, no offence... |
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 3 2011, 05:15 PM) which part of it is a joke...? i dun gedit... Duracell humping bunnyThis post has been edited by ExCrIpT: Aug 3 2011, 06:00 PM |
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Aug 3 2011, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Aug 3 2011, 12:23 AM) well.. to be honest.. i dont fell that kind of effects wit sp max. i like the sp250 better. First time using pre-WO supps so that's probably why. or maybe i should stop taking pre workout for a while.. how long did u guys cycle on pre workout supp? a weeK ? a month? QUOTE(ijnek @ Aug 3 2011, 05:07 PM) hey dan, LOL! u got a gf rite?...lol jus crackin a joke, no offence... |
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Aug 3 2011, 07:27 PM
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ijnek wants to cop a feel of your junk.
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Aug 3 2011, 08:01 PM
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Have been working out on an almost daily basis but this Saturday I will be undergoing a chest surgery. I think I will be missing the gym for a couple of months
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Aug 3 2011, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Aug 3 2011, 08:01 PM) Have been working out on an almost daily basis but this Saturday I will be undergoing a chest surgery. I think I will be missing the gym for a couple of months Damn, what happened? Hope you make a speedy and full recovery. |
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Aug 4 2011, 12:31 AM
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I have this excessive sweating problem on my palms and feet. So I will be doing this surgery where they make 2 incisions near my chest to clip the glands. Damn, gonna say bye to my bench presses for some time. Wonder if the doc will use more force to cucuk since our chest muscles are stiffer
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Aug 4 2011, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Aug 4 2011, 01:31 AM) I have this excessive sweating problem on my palms and feet. So I will be doing this surgery where they make 2 incisions near my chest to clip the glands. Damn, gonna say bye to my bench presses for some time. Wonder if the doc will use more force to cucuk since our chest muscles are stiffer U ever tried medication?i think I saw a kind of medication for excessive plam sweating in my customer's clinic but forgotten wat is the drug anme d |
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Aug 4 2011, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Aug 2 2011, 11:42 PM) Heh I'm actually praying it doesn't subside, cause it feels awesome. Though I'll have to take it quite some time before I start training to actually get the effects DURING my workout and not after. XD i tried sp max (4 x 160g tubs) for a mnth. no effect at all. preferred jack3d. hahai take it 60 mins b4 workout just to lock the high n pump during workout. depending on my mood prior to workout i can be high even until 2am. hahahaha. if bad mood, pump is there with focus but no high lah. haha |
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Aug 4 2011, 02:25 AM
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Aug 4 2011, 11:06 AM
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time to pump up ur legs!!!
recover well |
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Aug 4 2011, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Aug 4 2011, 02:25 AM) Yes bro, ETS. Guess I can only do leg workouts and some light cardio after the surgery. I think this is the best time to consume more protein as they repair and build tissues! |
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Aug 4 2011, 03:59 PM
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excerpt from a t-nation article;
QUOTE I'm going to assume that most of the males reading this can do at least 7-8 bodyweight pull-ups, with whatever grip you prefer. If you can't, and have been training for more than a few years, take this as a wake-up call that you seriously need to reconsider your training, nutrition, or both. Read this article from T NATON contributor Tim Henriques and get to work. If you can already do 7-8 reps, keep reading. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl..._the_next_level i love reading their articles. i swear the site is the only thing stopping me from thinking whatever weight im lifting is heavy. |
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Aug 4 2011, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Aug 4 2011, 03:59 PM) excerpt from a t-nation article; This is something I don't understand. I notice quite a few bodybuilding oriented trainees like taking training advice from a powerlifting oriented site. Why?http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl..._the_next_level i love reading their articles. i swear the site is the only thing stopping me from thinking whatever weight im lifting is heavy. |
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Aug 4 2011, 05:28 PM
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I'm a firm believer that strength gains = great physique.
Yea its more powerlifting oriented for sure, but its still knowledge. I just generally browse through these sites for their articles and bodybuilding threads. To date other than trying to change my benching style I still have not tried any powerlifting techniques and routines there. The posters there are very informative, and are huge mofos. Can't hurt to see what they write |
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Aug 5 2011, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 4 2011, 05:05 PM) This is something I don't understand. I notice quite a few bodybuilding oriented trainees like taking training advice from a powerlifting oriented site. Why? Because my goal is to achieve mass akin to greg plitt's, I gotta say, I dont really care about philosophy behind strength training and powerlifting and kettlebellsNot to say they dont work, just depends on goals lah I believe If Im adding poundages in my current routine with good form and good reps = im getting stronger nuff said Hahahahaha |
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Aug 5 2011, 10:19 AM
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anybody train fasted here?
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Aug 5 2011, 10:41 AM
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u mean fasting?...
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Aug 5 2011, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 5 2011, 10:19 AM) anybody train fasted here? Yes! |
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anyone mind to comment ?
lets say i am doing weights from 6.30-8.00 and cardio from 8.00-9.00 when is the best time to consume my whey ? |
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Aug 5 2011, 12:23 PM
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consume whey immediately after u train....... u need 1.5hr for weights and 1 hr for cardio? way pass the prime window...i think it's recommended to keep ur trainin within 1 hr. if not, ur body starts to break down muscle for energy... keep ur weights day n cardio day apart... i do cosgrove complex as cardio on my rest day |
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Aug 4 2011, 03:59 PM) excerpt from a t-nation article; Oh yes I read that article the other day. the hold at the top of the bar and the 1.5 reps absolutely made me burn in my lats. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl..._the_next_level i love reading their articles. i swear the site is the only thing stopping me from thinking whatever weight im lifting is heavy. |
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Aug 5 2011, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ Aug 5 2011, 10:44 AM) Yes! how's your training brah? apparently doing Calisthenics right now since i farked my left ankle ( cannot squat )so this week there will be no fasted workout btw first day ramadan i tried lifting feels good man, doesn't feel tired at all |
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Aug 5 2011, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 5 2011, 04:13 PM) how's your training brah? apparently doing Calisthenics right now since i farked my left ankle ( cannot squat ) Am used to it so now I have more energy and can still go heavy 12hrs after my last meal.so this week there will be no fasted workout btw first day ramadan i tried lifting feels good man, doesn't feel tired at all |
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Aug 5 2011, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 5 2011, 04:13 PM) how's your training brah? apparently doing Calisthenics right now since i farked my left ankle ( cannot squat ) When do you lift? After prayers or just before iftar? I need to start lifting again, shouldn't stop in the first place so this week there will be no fasted workout btw first day ramadan i tried lifting feels good man, doesn't feel tired at all |
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Aug 5 2011, 07:11 PM
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how did u manage to lift in the day? i can only workout at night, and its totally exhausting.
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Aug 5 2011, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Majinity @ Aug 5 2011, 06:51 PM) When do you lift? After prayers or just before iftar? I need to start lifting again, shouldn't stop in the first place at 5 or 3.30 before iftar, usually when sehri i will have lots of foods and somehow it will trigger my mindset that i am full lol.QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Aug 5 2011, 07:11 PM) how did u manage to lift in the day? i can only workout at night, and its totally exhausting. eat a lot when sehri, i don't mean go wild i mean like eat like you are having lunchand then i just lift, i think most likely mindset, if your mindset cakap want to lift, memang terjadi la lol |
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Aug 5 2011, 11:26 PM
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Tried simple workout with dumbells at home half an hour before iftar just now. Felt like dying after 20mins. I have no idea what would happen if I were at the gym.
Anyway, myb its because I can't seems to eat like I normally do on sahur. Too sleepy or something, have to work this one out. Lots of carbs during sahur right? |
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Aug 6 2011, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(Majinity @ Aug 5 2011, 11:26 PM) Tried simple workout with dumbells at home half an hour before iftar just now. Felt like dying after 20mins. I have no idea what would happen if I were at the gym. i dunno if this happens to everyone but fasting seems to do something weird to me in the gymAnyway, myb its because I can't seems to eat like I normally do on sahur. Too sleepy or something, have to work this one out. Lots of carbs during sahur right? i suddenly got this super pump effect and focus and phenomenal stamina even with rest time of 20 seconds between sets of about 15 reps each (total 5 sets each part) as for your question, there's no right or wrong approach as to the number of macros u require for puase time depends on your goals but slow release complex carbs and protein blends help a lot (although i dont take blends masa sahur but take half chicken or 3 fish instead) haha |
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Aug 6 2011, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Aug 6 2011, 12:15 AM) i dunno if this happens to everyone but fasting seems to do something weird to me in the gym THIS i suddenly got this super pump effect and focus and phenomenal stamina even with rest time of 20 seconds between sets of about 15 reps each (total 5 sets each part) as for your question, there's no right or wrong approach as to the number of macros u require for puase time depends on your goals but slow release complex carbs and protein blends help a lot (although i dont take blends masa sahur but take half chicken or 3 fish instead) haha brb going to have dat feel again this monday |
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Aug 6 2011, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 6 2011, 01:18 AM) THIS tapi serious bro brb going to have dat feel again this monday maybe because of the jolt lepas bukak puasa 2 hours before i gym anyway guys, are there any 24hour gyms in KL? just asking cuz bulan puasa on weekends, i may have to resort to swimming in my own small pool (15m length) at nite since gym closes at 9pm in KL/Selangor (underground gyms are full bulan puasa post 9pm) |
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all sifu,i got a question .. in energy bar,there will be written kcal of energy..how can i know how much of the energy is alot,and how much is little ..is it depends on the body weight ?any calculation to know how much is alot,how much is little..
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Aug 6 2011, 10:23 PM) all sifu,i got a question .. in energy bar,there will be written kcal of energy..how can i know how much of the energy is alot,and how much is little ..is it depends on the body weight ?any calculation to know how much is alot,how much is little.. 1kcal is little.1,000,000 kcals is a lot. Like.... really a lot..... This post has been edited by darklight79: Aug 7 2011, 04:00 AM |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 7 2011, 03:45 AM) 1kcal is little. -,- ..dont like this la bro dark.. my friend suddenly ask me. i also dont know that y seeking for answer.. >.<1,000,000 kcals is a lot. Like.... really a lot..... |
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Aug 7 2011, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Aug 7 2011, 04:15 AM) -,- ..dont like this la bro dark.. my friend suddenly ask me. i also dont know that y seeking for answer.. >.< You actually answered your own question la. Zzz... you said bodyweight in there. Lol... |
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Aug 7 2011, 04:16 AM) You actually answered your own question la. Zzz... you said bodyweight in there. Lol... ok, thanks.. wonder what mood r u on bro This post has been edited by alexooi17: Aug 7 2011, 04:27 AM |
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Aug 7 2011, 08:00 AM
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1 servin of protein shake abt 100 calories
1 servin of HL milk(200ml) abt 100 calories if it's close to 300 and above, i consider it high...but that's me... also, must c the content...if most of the energy r from carbo n sugar, i would not take it take protein bar better |
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Aug 7 2011, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(alexooi17 @ Aug 7 2011, 04:26 AM) ok, thanks.. wonder what mood r u on bro Must be too much protein! |
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QUOTE(ijnek @ Aug 7 2011, 08:00 AM) 1 servin of protein shake abt 100 calories yes, carbohydrate were made by satans1 servin of HL milk(200ml) abt 100 calories if it's close to 300 and above, i consider it high...but that's me... also, must c the content...if most of the energy r from carbo n sugar, i would not take it take protein bar better my family once had six packs, i mean all of them and then when my big big big brother had carbohydrates he got aids, carbohydrates is very evil, i will avoid them #LOL This post has been edited by adix4: Aug 7 2011, 11:36 AM |
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Aug 7 2011, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 7 2011, 11:33 AM) yes, carbohydrate were made by satans da fXxk? my family once had six packs, i mean all of them and then when my big big big brother had carbohydrates he got aids, carbohydrates is very evil, i will avoid them #LOL |
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Aug 7 2011, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Aug 7 2011, 11:53 AM) da fXxk? dat guy takut carbsand also 300 cal lol |
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