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post Jun 29 2011, 12:01 AM

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Been bulking for a while now, gained 2-3 kg but my waistline also increased, having a hard time fitting into my jeans already if i continue like this.
Been eating clean all the while

Do u guys think i should go lean for a while to reduce my waistline then only continje bulking?
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post Jun 29 2011, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jun 29 2011, 12:57 AM)
haha
if clean bulk macam mana waistline boleh increase bro?
look at the mirror and u'll find the answer to ur question
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Already had a tummy before i started bulking, its inevitable to gain fats while in the bulking phase isnt it,

Shoulders And arms are growing but looks like the additional fats are going to the waistline

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post Jun 29 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 29 2011, 05:36 PM)
hahaha, not as muscular as u guys think la... blush.gif
come buy supps cod, can see me  laugh.gif

i used to swim,run, play squash, sports a lot. b4 start gym was 59kg...bf 12%
then bulk2 till 80kg wit bf 18%, took a year i think.
last month or two cutting, down to 72kg.
now 75~77kg, every week my weight up n down by 2kg...havent measure my bf yet biggrin.gif

knowledge about meal, nutrition & supplements are crucial
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Next time sure get supps from u d. How do u count ur bf?

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post Jul 19 2011, 11:54 PM

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I'm confused.
The body will burn fats as fuel when its low on calories

The other thing is, the body will take muscle and turn it into fuel if there is no calories in the body.

So when will each scenario happen?
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post Jul 20 2011, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Jul 20 2011, 12:05 AM)
Both proteolysis and lipolysis happen hand in hand when you are calorie-deficient. Thats why you inevitably lose muscle bulk as you cut. Ofcos there are ways to go around this. Supplement is one of them. BCAA is especially beneficial during cutting, in maintaining the muscle mass. Macronutrient manipulation can be helpful too. By supplying sufficient/constant flow of protein you make sure the muscle is tipping towards the proteosynthesis of the balance of proteosynthesis/proteolysis. Net effect? You lose more fat than muscle as you cut.
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So basically just maintain the amount of protein either by meat or protein shake and low on calories will be sufficient to minimize muscle loss during cutting?
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 20 2011, 07:00 AM)
I eat like an insane b!tch post workout. That's how I counter the catabolic effects of cutting. =P
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so basically, during ur cutting phase, after ur workout u eat like mad to grow?

and early in the morning when gylcogen is depleted, u go for a work to burn off fats at the same time losing some muscle?

does it work?

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post Jul 26 2011, 02:17 AM

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I wonder, during cutting phase, is it alright to have a drastic drop in calories to make the body burn fats faster while maintaining the same amount of protein intake per day
With workout as well?
With 5-6 meals per day

I'm losing weight like 1.5 kg per week and my arms are getting smaller
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post Jul 26 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 26 2011, 09:43 AM)
you're in a cutting phase, of course you're getting smaller. losing 1.5 kg per week to me is quite okay i think, since you'll lose water weight as well. are you doing cardio? dont cut carbs off totally too, you still need carbs even though you're in a cutting phase
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Yes i started of bulking 3 mnths ago with som belly fats and my pants are starting to feel tight so i decided to lose some fats first before continiung.
So far its working but at the end of the 2nd week i noticed my arms are getting smaller.

Still having carbs for main meals mainly noodles oats cereals or rice and i do intense cardio for an hour 3 times a week
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post Jul 26 2011, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 26 2011, 10:38 AM)
you're still lifting weights too right?
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Yep 3 times a week split routine.

Heavy weight 8-10 reps each set


Added on July 26, 2011, 12:19 pm
QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jul 26 2011, 10:59 AM)
I only take carbs in the morning..my carb source only Oat... is that sufficient then?

get hungry really fast sigh...
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I get hungry too especially at night when low in calories.

Out of 6 meals, 2 meals will consist of only protein shake 26 g, apple and some wheat crackers for abit of calories so therefore should not have adrastic drop in calories consumption but i do intense cardio during offdays tho.

Protein intake should be around 150-160g per day as i weight at 83 kg, 179cm

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post Aug 2 2011, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Aug 2 2011, 06:06 PM)
to burn fat, we need to be in caloric deficit right.

but what if after the weight training, i have depleted my energy/glycogen stores, i hop on the treadmill for about 15-20 mins.
did i burn fat at THAT TIME on the treadmill ?

lil bit of confused here. help me out.
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Yes of course, as long as the glycogen is depleted, the body will tap into fats for energy
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post Aug 3 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 3 2011, 05:15 PM)
which part of it is a joke...? i dun gedit...
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post Aug 7 2011, 09:47 PM

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1.2kg pure breast meat for twelve bucks?

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