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TSinspiron
post Dec 16 2008, 01:32 AM, updated 17y ago

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I'm planning to go to AKPK this few weeks time. I got a lot of question to ask them as I'm curious about how they can help those with a lot of debt on their cc.

Anyone got anything ask from AKPK can let me know and I'll asked the Q for you.

I've tried to search AKPK in LYN but no one have a lot of answer about it.

So far, I can think of these few Q to ask them

1) is it true they can help us to consolidate all our debt into a 0% affordable payment? drool.gif

2) will CTOS learn about this? as you know, once your name in CTOS, its hard to remove it shakehead.gif

3) would they hold our passport like those declared bankrupt? sweat.gif

4) what happen to all our credit card once we accepted AKPK offer? they cancelled it all or just put on hold? if put on hold, the yearly charges still need to pay?

5) can we ever apply cc again after AKPK

6) how many years can they make the installment payment?

7) how much we need to payback to them....is it still 5%?

If anyone here have gone to AKPK and know the answer, I would greatly appreciate it. no need for me to waste my leave just to ask them this Q










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post Dec 16 2008, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(inspiron @ Dec 16 2008, 01:32 AM)
I'm planning to go to AKPK this few weeks time. I got a lot of question to ask them as I'm curious about how they can help those with a lot of debt on their cc.

Anyone got anything ask from AKPK can let me know and I'll asked the Q for you.

I've tried to search AKPK in LYN but no one have a lot of answer about it.

So far, I can think of these few Q to ask them

1) is it true they can help us to consolidate all our debt into a 0% affordable payment?  drool.gif
Is not 0%. Is depends on the bank to charge. But obviously is lower than 10% p.a.

2) will CTOS learn about this? as you know, once your name in CTOS, its hard to remove it  shakehead.gif
If you seek AKPK before your name in CTOS, then you will have no problem on that.

3) would they hold our passport like those declared bankrupt?  sweat.gif
No, they wont hold your passport nor declared you bankrupt.

4) what happen to all our credit card once we accepted AKPK offer? they cancelled it all or just put on hold? if put on hold, the yearly charges still need to pay?
All your credit card will be cancelled off.

5) can we ever apply cc again after AKPK
Yes.

6) how many years can they make the installment payment?
Is depends on how much monthly installement you pay.

7) how much we need to payback to them....is it still 5%?
If you are talking about how much monthly installment. I can say is lower than 5% of all your outstanding credit card amount.

If anyone here have gone to AKPK and know the answer, I would greatly appreciate it. no need for me to waste my leave just to ask them this Q
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post Dec 16 2008, 09:26 AM

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In regards to:
5) can we ever apply cc again after AKPK?
Ans: If and if only you have settled all your AKPK debts. I.e. after they restructure all your credit facilities into monthly repayment loan; you'll have to clear off everything before you are allowed to apply for a credit card.

6) how many years can they make the installment payment?
Ans: AKPK would take into your account your monthly net salary, than help you calculate your monthly commitment i.e. rental, electricity, food etc...before coming out with a repayment plan for all your credit facility. So it depends.

7) how much we need to payback to them....is it still 5%?
Ans: How much you pay back would depends on AKPK assessment.


btw, AKPK restructured accounts are listed in CCRIS. Thus the other financial institute knows about it, so like I mentioned above; the other FI wouldn't grant you anything while one of your facility is still tagged as AKPK account.

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QUOTE(inspiron @ Dec 16 2008, 01:32 AM)
I'm planning to go to AKPK this few weeks time. I got a lot of question to ask them as I'm curious about how they can help those with a lot of debt on their cc.

Anyone got anything ask from AKPK can let me know and I'll asked the Q for you.

I've tried to search AKPK in LYN but no one have a lot of answer about it.

So far, I can think of these few Q to ask them

1) is it true they can help us to consolidate all our debt into a 0% affordable payment?  drool.gif

2) will CTOS learn about this? as you know, once your name in CTOS, its hard to remove it  shakehead.gif

3) would they hold our passport like those declared bankrupt?  sweat.gif

4) what happen to all our credit card once we accepted AKPK offer? they cancelled it all or just put on hold? if put on hold, the yearly charges still need to pay?

5) can we ever apply cc again after AKPK

6) how many years can they make the installment payment?

7) how much we need to payback to them....is it still 5%?

If anyone here have gone to AKPK and know the answer, I would greatly appreciate it. no need for me to waste my leave just to ask them this Q
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1) Spend within your means and cut off all your CC

2) CTOS takes your info from public domain (i.e. notices put on newspapers. Blame the papers actually) And since it is an archival database, like the newspaper, it should not be removed as you can't erase history. You can only change your future.

3) Either change job to a better pay, or cut down on all unnecessary spendings.
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post Dec 18 2008, 01:01 PM

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A friend of mine went.

Was told that they could restructure his monthly payment from RM3200(Minimum payment) to RM800
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QUOTE(otisdog @ Dec 18 2008, 01:01 PM)
A friend of mine went.

Was told that they could restructure his monthly payment from RM3200(Minimum payment) to RM800
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omg.. min payment RM3200 then his total ammount is very high
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post Dec 19 2008, 12:59 AM

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Canon_Ixus,Dec 16 2008, 09:27 AM
bla bla bla.....oh hi .....smart @$$

if you got no personal knowledge about the subject, just zip it. take your holier than thou attitude elsewhere
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2) CTOS takes your info from public domain (i.e. notices put on newspapers. Blame the papers actually) And since it is an archival database, like the newspaper, it should not be removed as you can't erase history. You can only change your future.

pls do not spread lies and rumours about CTOS if you know nothing. There is a way to remove your bad history from CTOS....it is just troublesome and its a long process. Have you read CTOS website before spurting out nonsense?

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1) Spend within your means and cut off all your CC

Is this what you do to get more post count? Why not copy and paste this to all thread in Health section: follow the pyramid food guidelines, exercise more, sleep well, avoid fast food, bla bla bla and all your health problem is solved...no need to open any health thread anymore.... doh.gif

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3) Either change job to a better pay, or cut down on all unnecessary spendings.

is your ambition when you're a spoilt brat is to become a Priest? Why dont you go stand at Bank Negara and tell all those enquiring about AKPK about your nonsense....and hope for even 1% of those with cc problem to thank you for the wise advice?

btw, thanks to adreina and b00n for sharing your expirience / knowledge about the matter.
I heard from my friend he know someone who have applied for it and got 0%. I guess not everybody can get it.

let you all know more after i've 'interogate' the AKPK for more info.

Got a case where a blacklisted guy who go to AKPK for help and was told off "We dont entertain blacklisted people" blink.gif

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post Dec 19 2008, 11:19 AM

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if i not mistaken after akpk..will affect the approval rate for ur credit card
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post Dec 19 2008, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jerry1988 @ Dec 19 2008, 11:19 AM)
if i not mistaken after akpk..will affect the approval rate for ur credit card
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If your credit facility is tagged under AKPK, no bank would approve any loans or cards until settlement to all your existing facility is being cleared off.

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post Dec 19 2008, 03:23 PM

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I have appointment with AKPK next month so i can't answer your question now cause i am not 100% sure but do give them a call. AKPK conduct public briefing twice a day (11am & 4pm) on weekdays, sorry i forgot what the time schedule on saturday. This briefing is compulsory to attend. After the briefing, feels free to ask them any questions smile.gif after that when you still think you need AKPK help, then set a date with the them for personal consultation. Please hurry though cause theres lot of people attending and the briefing space is limited & i have to wait a month for my personal consultant with AKPK. Its ok though cost they don't charge you anything.


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post Dec 19 2008, 04:31 PM

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Yes it is a compulsory to attend the briefing before signing up with them.
It's like a compulsory to attend the "hearing on a driving course" before taking the test.

AKPK website:
http://www.akpk.org.my/
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actully if one is really has no other solution, seeking AKPK's help is not too bad...provided u r not blacklisted yet lar...cos they don't entertain blacklisted ppl and bankruptcy case (i think)...the interest charged depending on the ngotiation between AKPK officer and the bank but it's definitely lower and so much much lower...the agreed repayment amount will not change even after 5 years if the bank interest increases or ur monthly income increases...if u are agreed to pay an amount of RM500 a month back to the bank, it will still the same after 5 years or more even interest rate increase...one thing good about AKPK is they let u calculate n minus off the necessary monthly expenses and savings, watever balance from ur salary will be used to pay off the debts....from tat day onwards no more using cc...which is not too bad actually, at least u will haf no chance accumulating more debts anymore....
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QUOTE(Xanny @ Jan 30 2009, 06:08 PM)
actully if one is really has no other solution, seeking AKPK's help is not too bad...provided u r not blacklisted yet lar...cos they don't entertain blacklisted ppl and bankruptcy case (i think)...the interest charged depending on the ngotiation between AKPK officer and the bank but it's definitely lower and so much much lower...the agreed repayment amount will not change even after 5 years if the bank interest increases or ur monthly income increases...if u are agreed to pay an amount of RM500 a month back to the bank, it will still the same after 5 years or more even interest rate increase...one thing good about AKPK is they let u calculate n minus off the necessary monthly expenses and savings, watever balance from ur salary will be used to pay off the debts....from tat day onwards no more using cc...which is not too bad actually, at least u will haf no chance accumulating more debts anymore....
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and if you fail to pay the monthly payments, they revoke the plan and you will be revert to normal payment terms with the bank. I read this from someone's experience somewhere... tongue.gif and even though they don't blacklist you, banks will know you are under AKPK 'care' and thus qualifies you as a not-so-good debt managed person and therefore they might not offer any more loans to you.

check this out when you see AKPK and let me know if it is true or not. thanx
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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 31 2009, 12:39 PM)
and if you fail to pay the monthly payments, they revoke the plan and you will be revert to normal payment terms with the bank. I read this from someone's experience somewhere...  tongue.gif  and even though they don't blacklist you, banks will know you are under AKPK 'care' and thus qualifies you as a not-so-good debt managed person and therefore they might not offer any more loans to you.

check this out when you see AKPK and let me know if it is true or not. thanx
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Yes it is true. I.e. the bank has no right to "bother" you while you're in the program. But if you defaulted the payment twice; than you're on your own. AKPK would cancel the program/plan and bank would start to hassle you again with calls and legal actions and yes...the original interest rate charged.

Btw, yes; whoever is still under AKPK plan/program wouldn't qualify for any loan.
Like I mentioned before, AKPK might not help everyone. They would access one's earning and see whether or not they really need help.

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AKPK also help for personal loan and housing loan?
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QUOTE(DDSFan8 @ Feb 1 2009, 11:22 PM)
AKPK also help for personal loan and housing loan?
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Any loan. As long as it's legal and one is really in deep debts.

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People who joined this program will have to follow strict guidelines and make sure payment been made accordingly to the agreement. One of friends now can pay his settlement with only 3% interest and will take lesser time to finish the debt. However, from what I heard, once banks knows you pernah masuk this program..its harder to get any financial facilities from bank again although you already settle your debt.


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how this akpk work?
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QUOTE(hpcompaq @ Feb 8 2009, 01:53 PM)
how this akpk work?
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inspiron,

one thing to consider. AKPK will only help you ONCE in your lifetime. If they help you now, they cannot do it again in future if you stuck in deep debts. This is what I heard from the briefing conducted at my office.

it is more like last line of defence before bankruptcy. a visit to AKPK would never hurt, as long you are well informed on the decision you are going to make.

well, i'm not making it scary to go to AKPK, but it is nice to see your monthly minimum RM3,200 (must have been multiple cards) to RM800/month.

regarding the difficulties of applying loan/cc after your settled your AKPK, you might want to double confirm with them. I believe it depends on the bank's risk rating on you, not because you was saved by AKPK before.
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I'm with AKPK prog now. AKPK only help to settle credit cards/personal loans but not car/home loan. I owe RM65k to 5 credit cards and AKPK help to merge all debt as one with 8% interest. Total upto RM94k...Paid RM520 for 2 years and cont RM880 from 3rd to 10th years. There's no choice, need to agree or else get bankrupt.
So regarding the blacklist, i'm not but AKPK will advise you not get any loans to reduce your debt burden.
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QUOTE(PenangKia2009 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:43 AM)
I'm with AKPK prog now. AKPK only help to settle credit cards/personal loans but not car/home loan. I owe RM65k to 5 credit cards and AKPK help to merge all debt as one with 8% interest. Total upto RM94k...Paid RM520 for 2 years and cont RM880 from 3rd to 10th years. There's no choice, need to agree or else get bankrupt.
So regarding the blacklist, i'm not but AKPK will advise you not get any loans to reduce your debt burden.
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In your 10 years period with AKPK, no banks would be lending you any money. Sad but that is the hard cruel fact.
So if you have the money power; I would suggest re-negotiate with AKPK to do a full settlement as soon as you're able to do it.

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tool ? perhap the tool is within yourself ... contact

http://www.akpk.org.my/

otherwise read some finance blogs smile.gif
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QUOTE(PenangKia2009 @ Feb 17 2009, 09:43 AM)
I'm with AKPK prog now. AKPK only help to settle credit cards/personal loans but not car/home loan. I owe RM65k to 5 credit cards and AKPK help to merge all debt as one with 8% interest. Total upto RM94k...Paid RM520 for 2 years and cont RM880 from 3rd to 10th years. There's no choice, need to agree or else get bankrupt.
So regarding the blacklist, i'm not but AKPK will advise you not get any loans to reduce your debt burden.
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that means you might get be able to apply for loans from banks even if you under apkp? or do they mean ah long?
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Feb 21 2009, 06:57 PM)
that means you might get be able to apply for loans from banks even if you under apkp? or do they mean ah long?
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So regarding the blacklist, i'm not but AKPK will advise you NOT GET any loans to reduce your debt burden.

I think you miss the word 'not'
You can get no more loan from any gov institution while under AKPK. Dont mess your life with ah long. Their interest is not in black and white, they simple raise their % and its not negotiable

I got another friend doing AKPK soon and the % they quote him is 8%pa. So high rclxub.gif
Anyone else doing AKPK, pls share with us your interest rate as I heard its not the same for everyone. Those who quote from their friend's friend, please ask them to show you their white and black as people can say a lot of things. I heard last time rumours that AKPK can give 0% interest. Now I dont believe liao

I will try to accumulate all trustworthy feedback from you guys and update the 1st page soon. Bare with me.
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AKPK help negotiate with the bank, for me to pay at least $100 a month. CC debts totaling to 6k++ after this i need to deal straight with the bank. Now awaiting the bank to send me the papers. Will update how much the interest they gonna charged me.
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Most probably is on 8% pa. This is the standard rate given by akpk.
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not all are really 8%. My friend started it last december and hers is only 7%.

I went for the briefing with her. there's pros and cons lar using akpk service. The pros is, u will be capped with a fixed interest rate and will not increase anymore even the bank CC interest increased or even ur salary increase.

The cons are u will not be able to use cc anymore and getting loan will not be approved as long as u r with akpk programme but u can do so after u haf done with the payment. But actually i see not using cc as a good practise. cc sometimes really put ppl in deep shit....

In fact, if u haf no other option, going to akpk for solution is not that bad...
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My brother being enrolled into AKPK Program since last year.... Total Credit card and PL loan debts accumulated around RM54k. All da while he been paying minimum payment and due to some problem of his job, he not managed to pay anymore and seek help from AKPK.

Is been paying for AKPK about 14 months of RM1k monthly. I felt the pain of this and decided to help him clearing off the settlement. My question is, if i wanted to fully settlement for those debts, is that possible to get some discount or reduction from the bank.

Let say rm54k, been paid rm14k.. should be more or less left RM40k. So if i discuss with the bank, do you think with 30k i can fully settle it?
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Nope. The debt cannot be reduce. If your loan is 40K, means you will need to pay 40K. AKPK can only prolong the payment period and reduce the interest. Even if you negotiate with bank, I not sure if there any bank in the world would like to reduce your debt with them.
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The bank can actually.I am working with Recovery Dept before.Let say your principal RM30K + interest RM10K.Total RM40k.Anything that above the principal amount is a good proposal.Bank are willing to waive the interest part but you must know how to bargain and propose.I manage to get my customer to get a waiver of more than 200K for his housing loan.The total loan amount is roughly RM1.3Million.Credit card is also the same.It up to the bank to give a waiver or not.
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QUOTE(aaronixx @ Mar 17 2009, 11:20 AM)
Nope. The debt cannot be reduce. If your loan is 40K, means you will need to pay 40K. AKPK can only prolong the payment period and reduce the interest. Even if you negotiate with bank, I not sure if there any bank in the world would like to reduce your debt with them.
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I read from the AKPK website abt the testimonial.... even got ppl able to reduce from 200k+ to 30k... almost 90% ler.... But i m not that greedy la!

QUOTE(atake @ Mar 17 2009, 12:15 PM)
The bank can actually.I am working with Recovery Dept before.Let say your principal RM30K + interest RM10K.Total RM40k.Anything that above the principal amount is a good proposal.Bank are willing to waive the interest part but you must know how to bargain and propose.I manage to get my customer to get a waiver of more than 200K for his housing loan.The total loan amount is roughly RM1.3Million.Credit card is also the same.It up to the bank to give a waiver or not.
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I don't know what is the principal and what is the interest is. Swap pay swap pay... then pay, pay, pay... but the interest keep increasing...

Eg. Swap 10k, minimum payment rm500. then interest rate 1.5% based on RM9500. Keep on pay minimum...so how it counts??? And for personal loan, let say rm10k, paid for 2 years, rm5000... so what discount can get?


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QUOTE(adreina @ Mar 27 2009, 03:24 AM)
I read from the AKPK website abt the testimonial.... even got ppl able to reduce from 200k+ to 30k... almost 90% ler.... But i m not that greedy la!
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In actual fact, the "reduce" is actually by shaving off the interest and fees, thus creating an illusion of "reduce".
The principal amount owed is still non negotiable.

QUOTE(adreina @ Mar 27 2009, 03:24 AM)
I don't know what is the principal and what is the interest is. Swap pay swap pay... then pay, pay, pay... but the interest keep increasing...

Eg. Swap 10k, minimum payment rm500. then interest rate 1.5% based on RM9500. Keep on pay minimum...so how it counts??? And for personal loan, let say rm10k, paid for 2 years, rm5000... so what discount can get?
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When one nego with the banks direct, they would also do the same as AKPK, i.e. converting revolving loans into term loans. So for cards; they would cancel and convert into term loan with a fix monthly repayment. Only down part; obviously the discounts and interest rate and tenure might not be as "attractive" as AKPK's offer.

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Greetings,
I would like to know will AKPK help out with small amount debts .. for example : RM2k and above ? .. Or do they have their own minimum value of requirements before assisting us. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Apr 4 2009, 02:28 PM)
Greetings,
I would like to know will AKPK help out with small amount debts .. for example : RM2k and above ? .. Or do they have their own minimum value of requirements before assisting us. unsure.gif
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They would require you to provide proofs of incomes and they would help analyse your debts to see whether or not you're eligible.
Not everyone is eligible.
Also, it's not entirely beneficial to enroll with AKPK if one is not really in deep hole. There's some consequences to it as discussed in this topic.

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Hello all, would like to ask some question if you don't mind, currently just got retrench from work, and now bills keep piling up, my personal loan and two credit card are overdue for 3 to 4 month already, if not mistaken they will have you blacklisted in CCRIS or CTOS is it? I heard from my friend that at the 6 month of not making payment, your name will be in CCRIS and CTOS, what action will they take on me the? Sue me, decllare me bankcrupt?
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QUOTE(mozakiboy @ Apr 13 2009, 11:49 AM)
Hello all, would like to ask some question if you don't mind, currently just got retrench from work, and now bills keep piling up, my personal loan and two credit card are overdue for 3 to 4 month already, if not mistaken they will have you blacklisted in CCRIS or CTOS is it? I heard from my friend that at the 6 month of not making payment, your name will be in CCRIS and CTOS, what action will they take on me the? Sue me, decllare me bankcrupt?
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If your loan is overdue for 3 month, you be blacklisted in CCRIS. Sorry to hear you kena retrench. I think it is better you do some part time for income while searching for new job. AKPK is only the last resort to turn to.
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I thanks, thanks for your advice but currently looking for new job, so god help me get a job soon. Thanks for your answer...
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I wouldn't use or I never prefer to use the "blacklist" word.
FYI, whenever you didn't pay your loan facility (credit cards included) CCRIS would capture it. i.e. if missed one payment, CCRIS would show miss one payment, 2 than it would reflect 2 etc.

Just that many banks has the policy/rules of rejecting those which missed 3 or more payments. So technically CCRIS doesn't blacklist you, it's the banks policy that rejected you.

Anyway, like mentioned by cuebiz, don't go to AKPK just yet.
Try to call in the banks and ask for rewrite, i.e. cutting your card and transfer your existing balance into term loan where you'll need to service monthly repayment. Banks usually don't like their customers to enroll with AKPK because there's limited "action" they can do on the customer.

Also, once you've enrolled with CTOS, basically it would also show in your CCRIS report. I.e. banks would still reject you until you're out from AKPK. i.e. settled all your loans. So before that, you still can't get any credit facilities. Thus AKPK is the last resort whereby you seriously have no way to turn to.
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I finally got a reliable source bout AKPK. It is certainly not meant for those who think they can get a lower interest rate from it. Far from it, the interest is slightly higher than those from cc company.

My friend pass me his copy of AKPK paper but it is not stated the interest charges. He called them up and they told him his interest is 9%. cc interest is only 8.48%

The only reason to consider AKPK is that they can consolidate your debt and you only have to pay a lower rate of monthly charges for the 1st 3 years.

I'll talk more about it once I've calculate his total interest
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I'm working with AKPK same company xD
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AKPK help negotiate with the bank, for me to pay at least $100 a month.  CC debts totaling to 6k++ after this i need to deal straight with the bank. Now awaiting the bank to send me the papers. Will update how much the interest they gonna charged me.
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i got the letter from bank today. They accept the monthly installments of $100 (proposed by akpk) for my 2 credit card plus (interest of 7% per annum)
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hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ May 12 2009, 08:48 PM)
hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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hi everybody, actually just came across AKPK recently. 1 big question, after joinning AKPK programme, will i be able to apply for personal/business current account? wanna try my luck working for myself.... after being cow for so many years...

thanks
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hi everybody, actually just came across AKPK recently. 1 big question, after joinning AKPK programme, will i be able to apply for personal/business current account? wanna try my luck working for myself.... after being cow for so many years...

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If you enrolled with AKPK; trying to borrow from the bank would be a problem, i.e. no bank is going to lend you.
But opening of an account with no OD facilities would be fine. So you can open an account but without OD line.

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Can i say that when you ask for AKPK help you will be semi bankrupt?

the only difference with real bankruptcy is that you get to keep using your bank account.

when you talk about CC restructuring is that they will cancel all the cc you have when akpk agree to help?

thanks.

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You guys are GREAT, sharing all these info! Salute to the unselfish sharing.

Anyway b4 going for AKPK, one of the other moves can consider is Balance Transfer (usually they offer low interest rate for short period), that means u take some new credit cards with no annual fee, do one small transaction (perhaps buy petrol), pay that one up, then apply to transfer your other balances at 1.5% per month to new card at say 0.5% per month for the first 6 months. Per RM1000 of balance, savings per month is 1% or RM10. If you owe RM10k, you save RM100 per month in interest!

Of course, please don't increase the new card balance by spending again. smile.gif Easier said than done sad.gif
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hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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Yes. I got a question. As previously i been post regarding would like to help my brother settle off his AKPK.

He started enrolled into AKPK program January 2008. Total of his debts is RM52k. And being proposed to pay Rm1k per month. From January 2008 till now, its been paid 16months. Current moment i got cash on hand around RM28k, do you think that i can settle off the outstanding with the RM28k??
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QUOTE(walnutch @ May 14 2009, 12:11 AM)
hi everybody, actually just came across AKPK recently. 1 big question, after joinning AKPK programme, will i be able to apply for personal/business current account? wanna try my luck working for myself.... after being cow for so many years...

thanks
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to apply loans, depends on the banks... but i can say that you will not be able to get the facilities due to joining AKPK... as for opening an account, shouldnt be a problem... smile.gif

QUOTE(b00n @ May 14 2009, 12:31 AM)
If you enrolled with AKPK; trying to borrow from the bank would be a problem, i.e. no bank is going to lend you.
But opening of an account with no OD facilities would be fine. So you can open an account but without OD line.
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not to say that no banks will lend, it depends on that particular bank whether they will give or not... but can say that the percentage will be higher la that the banks wont give you any loans facilities.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ May 15 2009, 05:34 PM)
Can i say that when you ask for AKPK help you will be semi bankrupt?

the only difference with real bankruptcy is that you get to keep using your bank account.

when you talk about CC restructuring is that they will cancel all the cc you have when akpk agree to help?

thanks.
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not semi bankrupt... or even bankrupt... you see, when joining AKPK, you want to settle your debts right? so, the T&C, makes you to discipline yourself not to make any borrowings again... so, when joining AKPK, make sure that you need to be in the right mindset by not owing with any banks anymore... biggrin.gif

yes, all your CC will be consolidated, where you cant use your CC anymore until you "graduate" from the program... tongue.gif

QUOTE(conxtion @ May 17 2009, 02:26 AM)
You guys are GREAT, sharing all these info!  Salute to the unselfish sharing.

Anyway b4 going for AKPK, one of the other moves can consider is Balance Transfer (usually they offer low interest rate for short period), that means u take some new credit cards with no annual fee, do one small transaction (perhaps buy petrol), pay that one up, then apply to transfer your other balances at 1.5% per month to new card at say 0.5% per month for the first 6 months.  Per RM1000 of balance, savings per month is 1% or RM10.  If you owe RM10k, you save RM100 per month in interest!

Of course, please don't increase the new card balance by spending again. smile.gif  Easier said than done sad.gif
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true... good suggestion... but need to make sure youre not spending anymore... laugh.gif

QUOTE(adreina @ May 19 2009, 12:10 AM)
Yes. I got a question. As previously i been post regarding would like to help my brother settle off his AKPK.

He started enrolled into AKPK program January 2008. Total of his debts is RM52k. And being proposed to pay Rm1k per month. From January 2008 till now, its been paid 16months. Current moment i got cash on hand around RM28k, do you think that i can settle off the outstanding with the RM28k??
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you PM me rite? i replied edi... nod.gif
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I wouldn't use or I never prefer to use the "blacklist" word.
FYI, whenever you didn't pay your loan facility (credit cards included) CCRIS would capture it. i.e. if missed one payment, CCRIS would show miss one payment, 2 than it would reflect 2 etc.

Just that many banks has the policy/rules of rejecting those which missed 3 or more payments. So technically CCRIS doesn't blacklist you, it's the banks policy that rejected you.

Anyway, like mentioned by cuebiz, don't go to AKPK just yet.
Try to call in the banks and ask for rewrite, i.e. cutting your card and transfer your existing balance into term loan where you'll need to service monthly repayment. Banks usually don't like their customers to enroll with AKPK because there's limited "action" they can do on the customer.

Also, once you've enrolled with CTOS, basically it would also show in your CCRIS report. I.e. banks would still reject you until you're out from AKPK. i.e. settled all your loans. So before that, you still can't get any credit facilities. Thus AKPK is the last resort whereby you seriously have no way to turn to.
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Yup, u can actually go to Bank Negara to print out your own CCRIS report, which shows you all your loan instruments and how disciplined you are in paying. Even a late payment of one day of even few cents still shows up as a late payment.

CCRIS technically is not blacklist, its just for banks to refer as to your cash flow management discipline. For blacklist, that would be CTOS (bankruptcy). Someone who kena CTOS b4 has very low chance of ever getting a loan from any bank again smile.gif
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QUOTE(conxtion @ May 17 2009, 02:26 AM)
....... apply to transfer your other balances at 1.5% per month to new card at say 0.5% per month for the first 6 months.  Per RM1000 of balance, savings per month is 1% or RM10.  If you owe RM10k, you save RM100 per month in interest!

Of course, please don't increase the new card balance by spending again. smile.gif  Easier said than done sad.gif
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yes, that's true. BUT...the trick is, if you can settle your 10k debt in 6months, AKPK would be the furthest thing in your mind right.

your plan does make sense but you need to know that to save RM100/m with your method, you need to fulfill the criteria of being able to pay RM1666.67/m. If you only pay the minimum(ie:RM83), the rest of it would be calculated as (1666.67-83) x 1.5% = back to square 1

I have done a lot of calculation of BT offered by many banks and I'm certainly not impress. There would only be a saving of interest IF you could pay within the time frame of the BT. Not to mention some bank impossed a service charge for the BT.

I wont be interested in any BT unless it is from PB 5% upfront for 2 years.

Some bank create another account for you for BT. The trick is, if you have been a good paymaster for 1 year, your interest would be 13.5% p/annum. If you take up BT but only pay the min, after the BT period ended, your balance would be charge at 18% p/annum. So you are actually paying more than before
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hi there !
do we pay the same amount(e.g- RM100.00) for the whole 10years or like paying 100 for the 1st 2-3 years and pay a little more on the rest of the years ?
thx.

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QUOTE(lil twist @ May 12 2009, 08:48 PM)
hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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Hi there, thanx in advance......
i got few questions....

1) my cc & PPL is about 100K+
2) i need to pay housing loan (500.00)& car loan (1700.00)
3) i 'm struggling paying the min every month (5000.00)

but i'm a self-employed personnel.....

so..if i taking up AKPK :

a) will it affected my status as director/owner in the company? ( 2 directors)
b) will they also include the housing loan & car loan as well?
c) if not, will they force us to "let go" the car or house?
d) because of self-employed, i'm actually drawing min salary only -4500.00 (to reduce in tax), so when they calculated the salary will they also count in my company profit of the period (but i'm not drawing fix allowances) or just the basic salary?
e) if i got to cancel all the CC, can I be the supplementary card holder under my wife (as in biz we need the conveniency of CC in traveling)
f) how they calculate the expenses? eg, water & electricity bills, telephone & multimedia bill, H/P bill, housing maintenance fee, kids nursery/tuition fees? oohhh...and also daily makan..? petrol?
g) so far besides AKPK, any bank will help to offer a loan to consolidate all CC debt under it then fix as term loan under certain rate(maybe 12% pa for 5 years) to allow u to ease the min payment.

100k @ 5% min = 5000.00
100k + 12%(5 years) = 160k ; divided by 60 months = 2666.66
actually bank still earning but at least our debt is under control...
why none of the bank willing to offer it? Standard Chartered actually got this plan but so far i heard no body with amount more than 50K got it.

So far i never have any overdue amount in CC nor any loan....just feel very tired /struggling....

so need to find solution before it getting worst...

please advise.

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QUOTE(KKWeng @ Jun 16 2009, 07:32 PM)
Hi there, thanx in advance......
i got few questions....

1) my cc & PPL is about 100K+
2) i need to pay housing loan (500.00)& car loan (1700.00)
3) i 'm struggling paying the min every month (5000.00)

but i'm a self-employed personnel.....

so..if i taking up AKPK :

a) will it affected my status as director/owner in the company? ( 2 directors)
b) will they also include the housing loan & car loan as well?
c) if not, will they force us to "let go" the car or house?
d) because of self-employed, i'm actually drawing min salary only -4500.00 (to reduce in tax), so when they calculated the salary will they also count in my company profit of the period (but i'm not drawing fix allowances) or just the basic salary?
e) if i got to cancel all the CC, can I be the supplementary card holder under my wife (as in biz we need the conveniency of CC in traveling)
f) how they calculate the expenses? eg, water & electricity bills, telephone & multimedia bill, H/P bill, housing maintenance fee, kids nursery/tuition fees? oohhh...and also daily makan..? petrol?
g) so far besides AKPK, any bank will help to offer a loan to consolidate all CC debt under it then fix as term loan under certain rate(maybe 12% pa for 5 years) to allow u to ease the min payment.

100k @ 5% min = 5000.00
100k + 12%(5 years) = 160k ; divided by 60 months = 2666.66
actually bank still earning but at least our debt is under control...
why none of the bank willing to offer it? Standard Chartered actually got this plan but so far i heard no body with amount more than 50K got it.

So far i never have any overdue amount in CC nor any loan....just feel very tired /struggling....

so need to find solution before it getting worst...

please advise.
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a) i dun think so.
b) housng loan- maybe yes but no car loan.
c) i dun think so.
d) only your monthly draw out salary.
e) yes!... you can be under your wife's supp.
f) your monthly salary - monthly expenditure = balance
g) so far only akpk.

once you enrol to akpk, you cant get any loans/cc from bank until you finish your final settlement(max 10 years).
no banks could like you to go to akpk cos they cant disturb you.
akpk only give you ONE chance.
if you default twice, then you're on your own.


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QUOTE(ken2tango @ Jun 16 2009, 08:12 PM)
a) i dun think so.
b) housng loan- maybe yes but no car loan.
c) i dun think so.
d) only your monthly draw out salary.
e) yes!... you can be under your wife's supp.
f) your monthly salary - monthly expenditure = balance
g) so far only akpk.

once you enrol to akpk, you cant get any loans/cc from bank until you finish your final settlement(max 10 years).
no banks could like you to go to akpk cos they cant disturb you.
akpk only give you ONE chance.
if you default twice, then you're on your own.
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QUOTE(KKWeng @ Jun 16 2009, 07:32 PM)
Hi there, thanx in advance......
i got few questions....

1) my cc & PPL is about 100K+
2) i need to pay housing loan (500.00)& car loan (1700.00)
3) i 'm struggling paying the min every month (5000.00)

but i'm a self-employed personnel.....

so..if i taking up AKPK :

a) will it affected my status as director/owner in the company? ( 2 directors)
b) will they also include the housing loan & car loan as well?
c) if not, will they force us to "let go" the car or house?
d) because of self-employed, i'm actually drawing min salary only -4500.00 (to reduce in tax), so when they calculated the salary will they also count in my company profit of the period (but i'm not drawing fix allowances) or just the basic salary?
e) if i got to cancel all the CC, can I be the supplementary card holder under my wife (as in biz we need the conveniency of CC in traveling)
f) how they calculate the expenses? eg, water & electricity bills, telephone & multimedia bill, H/P bill, housing maintenance fee, kids nursery/tuition fees? oohhh...and also daily makan..? petrol?
g) so far besides AKPK, any bank will help to offer a loan to consolidate all CC debt under it then fix as term loan under certain rate(maybe 12% pa for 5 years) to allow u to ease the min payment.

100k @ 5% min = 5000.00
100k + 12%(5 years) = 160k ; divided by 60 months = 2666.66
actually bank still earning but at least our debt is under control...
why none of the bank willing to offer it? Standard Chartered actually got this plan but so far i heard no body with amount more than 50K got it.

So far i never have any overdue amount in CC nor any loan....just feel very tired /struggling....

so need to find solution before it getting worst...

please advise.
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hi there... glad that u asked... ok, below are the answers for each questions:

a) it will not affect your position and the other director as it is P&C... only u (nd of course the counselors) knows your status...
b) housing loan 50-50, but car loan no... but, they will try to restructure the whole thing so you can accommodate your car loan...
c) no... its up to u... they give suggestions, and if u agree, or disagree you can discuss further... the options are for your own good... example, if you have expenditures that you can actually trim, they will open an option so you can cut it down to accommodate your debts installment...
d) only salary... but if you have other income, dont forget to add in coz they will see and try to fit it in...
e) no, coz in your CCRIS, a K tag will appear, means ure in AKPK... but, it also depends on the bank whether they want to give or not... usually, they dont...
f) yes, they will calculate every cent that you use... and i mean EVERYTHING... sweat.gif
g) yes, as you need to discuss with your respective banks... they have their rehabilitation dept. actually... but please go directly to the branch manager as the officers will either help you, or mock you... doh.gif

to be honest, with your total debts, you can cut your total installment up to 40% and can go more if you can talk with the counsellor lor... tongue.gif usually they will try to help anyone wherever possible as the number of people in debts are getting higher and higher these days... sad.gif

so, i would strongly suggest you to go to AKPK soonest before things get worse... nod.gif

hope this helps... smile.gif
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lil twist,

1) Why some application is thrown away from the original branch? like consulting in KL but settlement done by ipoh.
2) During the consultation, they say no interset will be charge. Example, Loan outstanding RM20,000, pay RM500 through AKPK, the balance is RM19,500. Bank is other wise, as your balance would be RM19,980 only. Confirm this..
3) Once got the offer letter from AKPK, they say subject to bank interest and bank charges that not stated how much. Not fair to blindly sign without knowing the details.
4) How to get the agreed rates and charges?
5) Can we negotiate further to reduce.
6) Can we reject the offer?

Afraid it will create back to square one (but without phone call) and more interest as they structure may less interest but longer term which still create no benefit to participants.

TQ. You may PM too.
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QUOTE(sly77 @ Jun 23 2009, 03:09 PM)
lil twist,

1) Why some application is thrown away from the original branch? like consulting in KL but settlement done by ipoh.
2) During the consultation, they say no interset will be charge. Example, Loan outstanding RM20,000, pay RM500 through AKPK, the balance is RM19,500. Bank is other wise, as your balance would be RM19,980 only. Confirm this..
3) Once got the offer letter from AKPK, they say subject to bank interest and bank charges that not stated how much. Not fair to blindly sign without knowing the details.
4) How to get the agreed rates and charges?
5) Can we negotiate further to reduce.
6) Can we reject the offer?

Afraid it will create back to square one (but without phone call) and more interest as they structure may less interest but longer term which still create no benefit to participants.

TQ. You may PM too.
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hi there... biggrin.gif below are the answers to your questions...:

1) its random and computer generated... i dont know why, but it is done by computer... sweat.gif
2) there r interest impose in the total debts you have... but how low, depending on the negotiation with the banks... example, ur debts is RM20k, after impose interest of X amount, it goes about RM25k (assumptions only) and ur installment is RM500... it will increase after 2-3 years (step up installment) and you can deduct accordingly...

500 x 36 = 18k
25k - 18k = 7k
maybe 550 for 1 more year and youre done... smile.gif

3) nope, you will know the interest rate... please ask the counselor for the rates... nod.gif you can ask a lot of questions to them as you need to know what are u in to...
4) several meetings... lets say initial rate they give u x amount... but u want y amount... they go back to banks, and if ur rate is too low, they will either stick with x amount, or propose z amount, where it is in between ur rate n their rate...
5) answer in no.4
6) yes, but do remember that if u reject the offer, it will be very hard for u to try again next time... sweat.gif

it actually depends on your case... they are humans too... tongue.gif but for AKPK, they will try their best to assist anyone who needs help... smile.gif

hope i answer all ur queries... biggrin.gif
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heard from a buddy that one of the officer at AKPK apply for credit card but rejected coz too risky. So funny that these ppl are supposely expert but also got financial diff
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heard from a buddy that one of the officer at AKPK apply for credit card but rejected coz too risky. So funny that these ppl are supposely expert but also got financial diff
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they are normal human beings too my friend... doesnt mean they drive mercedes they dont have debts... many people do... they just have their own ways of handling it or they go to wherever places that they can get help... smile.gif

dont judge a book by its cover... biggrin.gif
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hi all,

b4 you approach akpk, is better to talk to your bank 1st, chat nicely with them and possibility can get a ride-off if the amount not so big or under the manager approved amount.

this is for those having few cc which 1 or 2 cc with low debts under rm3k

so guys / gals, what you waiting for? chat with your cc bank 1st.

if lucky gets ride-off and sure your feeling likes striking lottery ~~ biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jun 29 2009, 09:47 PM)
they are normal human beings too my friend... doesnt mean they drive mercedes they dont have debts... many people do... they just have their own ways of handling it or they go to wherever places that they can get help... smile.gif

dont judge a book by its cover... biggrin.gif
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bro,

Pls check my PM..thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jun 29 2009, 09:47 PM)
they are normal human beings too my friend... doesnt mean they drive mercedes they dont have debts... many people do... they just have their own ways of handling it or they go to wherever places that they can get help... smile.gif

dont judge a book by its cover... biggrin.gif
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sorry, just want to ask, if now i under debt management program, can i go to open account for buy share?
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QUOTE(crocky @ Jul 11 2009, 03:01 AM)
bro,

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QUOTE(skylee83 @ Jul 13 2009, 01:36 PM)
sorry, just want to ask, if now i under debt management program, can i go to open account for buy share?
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yes you can... under DMP, you can't get credit facilities only... like loans, CC... others like open an account, shouldn't be a problem bro... biggrin.gif
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U should chat wif the bank first, some banks allow things like restructuring. They convert u cc outstanding into lower fixed repayment like loans but they still charge u normal cc charges i thing. But then ur cc will be put on hold as u cant use ur cc any more.

Thats juz my opinion.
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Hi....i will like to ask....once a person is in a AKPK program, can that person apply for a refinance home loan???



Thank You



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QUOTE(ekestima @ Jul 14 2009, 08:49 PM)
U should chat wif the bank first, some banks allow things like restructuring. They convert u cc outstanding into lower fixed repayment like loans but they still charge u normal cc charges i thing. But then ur cc will be put on hold as u cant use ur cc any more.

Thats juz my opinion.
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basically, what they do is give term loans if its necessary... unfortunately, they usually refuse to give this because of certain measures taken by the banks... so, better ask them first whether they be able to give it or not... wink.gif

QUOTE(Sharlie @ Jul 21 2009, 11:39 PM)
Hi....i will like to ask....once a person is in a AKPK program, can that person apply for a refinance home loan???
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nope, you can't apply any loans if you're in DMP... wink.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jul 26 2009, 12:53 AM)
basically, what they do is give term loans if its necessary... unfortunately, they usually refuse to give this because of certain measures taken by the banks... so, better ask them first whether they be able to give it or not... wink.gif
nope, you can't apply any loans if you're in DMP... wink.gif
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afaik, akpk do not tell the bank whether to approve your loan or not although its shown in your record tht ure under dmp. end of the day, its still depending on the bank whether to approve ur loan or not...

thts wht the akpk officer told me.
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QUOTE(kytan @ Jul 26 2009, 09:57 AM)
afaik, akpk do not tell the bank whether to approve your loan or not although its shown in your record tht ure under dmp. end of the day, its still depending on the bank whether to approve ur loan or not...

thts wht the akpk officer told me.
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that's true my friend... but as you should know by then, the banks will not help you out coz if they want to, they should help everyone from the very beginning... when people seek for refinancing or rescheduling their loans with the respective banks... wink.gif

end of the day, will definitely be a no no... doh.gif
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hi,

CC debt around 12K
personal loan around 10K

should i go for:
1. balance transfer
2. akpk
3. EPP
4. house loan refinance

?? kinda confuse now.. sigh..
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QUOTE(la_Feng @ Aug 11 2009, 04:09 PM)
hi,

CC debt around 12K
personal loan around 10K

should i go for:
1. balance transfer
2. akpk
3. EPP
4. house loan refinance

?? kinda confuse now.. sigh..
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hi there... smile.gif

basically, what you need to do is to see what can you reduce in amount...
obviously the CC's interest will kill you anytime... sweat.gif
so, below i break down some opinion:

Balance Transfer
- interest quite competitive...
- short term only (6, 9, 12, 18, 24 months)
- you still have buying power (add more CC)

AKPK
- competitive interest rate...
- no buying power (cannot apply for ANY credit facilities)
- up to 10 years
- teach you to control your desire

EPP (not sure on this)

Refinancing of housing loan
- get extra income from the refinancing
- longer period
- you're gonna pay more for interest, and lose quite a lot as well
- still able to apply for any loans if want la

at the end, its up to u which suits you the best... i can only suggest you, give opinions, but not answers...
hope the above helps you to decide...

feel free to PM me for further discussions should you need any... biggrin.gif
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I plan to enroll now since i got no choice.

Btw, i think my total CC and Personal Loan would reach 28k if combine all. Assuming i will apply for this and income as below:
Nett income: RM 2250
1. Pay hire purchase 420
2. Pay Family RM 1200 for my parents
3. Pay 350 for my rental
3. After deduct i left rm 250. I am really not sure how would the AKPK help since they r unable to combine my hp with my cc and pl.

Really confused now. Can i request for only Rm 100 payment per month for the first 2 year. If yes how big is my chance. I need to have some saving before its too late.

How long will i would know my application result. Will this take long time to confirm?

Thanks!!!!



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guys, i got a serious situation now. i got debts with 5 licenced money lender.
4 i loaned RM1.5k each, 1 more is RM5k. so because of trusted friends. i even lose my good job salary RM2.5k per month. now im jobless, how am i supposed to settle this problem. im really regret for my mistake!!!!
by the way, im still got car hired purchase debt with public bank around RM20k
is there any solution for me?! guys please help me out?!

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QUOTE(FrozenSoul81 @ Aug 22 2009, 01:12 PM)
I plan to enroll now since i got no choice.

Btw, i think my total CC and Personal Loan would reach 28k if combine all. Assuming i will apply for this and income as below:
Nett income: RM 2250
1. Pay hire purchase 420
2. Pay Family RM 1200 for my parents
3. Pay 350 for my rental
3. After deduct i left rm 250. I am really not sure how would the AKPK help since they r unable to combine my hp with my cc and pl.

Really confused now. Can i request for only Rm 100 payment per month for the first 2 year. If yes how big is my chance. I need to have some saving before its too late.

How long will i would know my application result. Will this take long time to confirm?

Thanks!!!!
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Good to hear that... take the step to ease your burden in the future mate! smile.gif

ok, based on your information, i can say you have high chance to be enrolled. but, to get RM100 for the 1st 2 years im not sure but you can always request. if you dont ask, you'll never know. so, i suggest you to go to AKPK and see the counsellor to get confirmation. basically, worst come to worst, you installment might be slightly higher, and they will give you options and suggestions to how you can manage it... smile.gif

QUOTE(the51angel @ Sep 2 2009, 02:13 AM)
guys, i got a serious situation now. i got debts with 5 licenced money lender.
4 i loaned RM1.5k each, 1 more is RM5k. so because of trusted friends. i even lose my good job salary RM2.5k per month. now im jobless, how am i supposed to settle this problem. im really regret for my mistake!!!!
by the way, im still got car hired purchase debt with public bank around RM20k
is there any solution for me?! guys please help me out?!
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the only solution for you is to get a job like right now. since you have loans with money lender, its an issue on life and death mate. in case you've been threatened, report to police and seek for help with the gov for temporary immunity while you get a job. I must say, its a risky life ahead of you. good luck. wink.gif
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QUOTE(FrozenSoul81 @ Aug 22 2009, 01:12 PM)
I plan to enroll now since i got no choice.

Btw, i think my total CC and Personal Loan would reach 28k if combine all. Assuming i will apply for this and income as below:
Nett income: RM 2250
1. Pay hire purchase 420
2. Pay Family RM 1200 for my parents
3. Pay 350 for my rental
3. After deduct i left rm 250. I am really not sure how would the AKPK help since they r unable to combine my hp with my cc and pl.

Really confused now. Can i request for only Rm 100 payment per month for the first 2 year. If yes how big is my chance. I need to have some saving before its too late.

How long will i would know my application result. Will this take long time to confirm?

Thanks!!!!
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Wow, u are good son. Does your parents rely on you for a living? Else I think you may want to negotiate with them on this amount. I think AKPK may ask u the same question too.
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Hi,

I went to AKPK last week for DMP briefing and counseling.

As i want to settle all my debts (CC and PL) total about RM40K, they suggest me to pay for RM400 for 2 years and RM500 after 2 years in DMP.

It will cost me to pay nearly rm1K/mth if i pay normal.

For those who have no idea to settle ur debts, I recommended u to go AKPK...

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QUOTE(nizam4122 @ Sep 14 2009, 11:45 AM)
Hi,

I went to AKPK last week for DMP briefing and counseling.

As i want to settle all my debts (CC and PL) total about RM40K, they suggest me to pay for RM400 for 2 years and RM500 after 2 years in DMP.

It will cost me to pay nearly rm1K/mth if i pay normal.

For those who have no idea to settle ur debts, I recommended u to go AKPK...
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Wow!! U can get like a huge discount!

RM400 * 24 = 9600
RM500 * 24 = 12000
Total : 21600

Which almost 20k discount....

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hi all sifu here,

if i'm out from akpk program

can i refinance home loan with other banks in malaysia in the future?


out from akpk already 1 years

thanks
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Guys, need advise. My debt is nt that huge amount bt i decided to stay away from debt. I decide to not to use cc anymore. My situation is.
- i have cc outstanding balance rm3k
- PL outstanding balance around rm2.5k (loan rm3k, 2 year, 24 pcnt interest per year, pay monthly rm250 ends jun 2010)
- Earn around rm2-2.2k.

How would AKPK calculate? I still blur2 about this. If i want to settle the debt within 6 months, i assume i needto pay monthly rm800? Bt hw about my PL interest? The total interest frm bnk is around 48 pcnt, cn they rduce the interest? If can i can save around 18pcnt of interest d, thats a lot.. Cn smone help me explaining?

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 24 2009, 02:41 AM)
Guys, need advise. My debt is nt that huge amount bt i decided to stay away from debt. I decide to not to use cc anymore. My situation is.
- i have cc outstanding balance rm3k
- PL outstanding balance around rm2.5k (loan rm3k, 2 year, 24 pcnt interest per year, pay monthly rm250 ends jun 2010)
- Earn around rm2-2.2k.

How would AKPK calculate? I still blur2 about this. If i want to settle the debt within 6 months, i assume i needto pay monthly rm800? Bt hw about my PL interest? The total interest frm bnk is around 48 pcnt, cn they rduce the interest? If can i can save around 18pcnt of interest d, thats a lot.. Cn smone help me explaining?
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To tell you the truth, your debt is small compared to a lot of others. I don't think AKPK would entertain also.
Your PL is RM250 per month which you can service.
Your card you can slowly pay down with your existing pay.
Not a big issue till you need to go to AKPK if you ask my opinion.

One reason being to be enlisted into AKPK is no laughing matter. Every bank would know that you are part of the program (shown in your CCRIS report) and no loan facility would be granted while you're attached to them.

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Thx boon, yeah im glad my debt is not that high compared to other. But i just dont like debt. Something tht i totaly forgot when i fill up the loan app form. Another reason i wana settle em in 6 month is bcoz i wana buy car. So if those 2 things are cleared bfore buying car, the lesser the burden.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(hikaripro @ Sep 24 2009, 05:39 PM)
Hi friends,

My real current situation:

CC
Maybank Visa $3,600
Direct Access MasterCard $16,000 
AmBank Visa $3,500.00
Standard Chartered MasterCard $1,900 
HSBC Visa $19,500
 
Personal Loans
HSBC Amanah Personal Loan-I $23,000
CIMB Overdraft Account / Current Account $10,000

Total: $77,500

Others:
Car Loan
EON Bank $873/mth
Current Salary: $9870/month

Please advise on whether I should join AKPK/DMP programme or try to restructure myself. My current (minimum) monthly payment usually reaches $5K.

Pls help me... Thanks in advance...

Update: 9870 has to minus EPF and tax... so I'll get around rm7800
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i think u should talk to akpk....they'll calculated for u how much u must pay per month. usually they will calculate below then your current min payment...u have net profit income...should be no problem.
b4 u go to akpk...make sure make an appointment 1st...call them

akpk step by step.

1) attend briefing
2) attend counselling session...make sure you prepare latest bank statements, latest 3 months slip, and credit report CCRIS (get it from bank negara)
3) make prepayment.
4) submit form. wait 4 a month (ape yg derang cakap)
5) peaceful mind. icon_rolleyes.gif

item no 1 and 2 better make it on the same day because it take less than 2 hours to settle. make sure u prepare all docs.. smile.gif



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Thank you mr nizam. I went to the briefing just now and my appt with counsellor is on Oct 10. Pls pray for my success!!! Will update here...
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go Akpk is good...
IF you can accept the consequences....
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QUOTE(hikaripro @ Sep 24 2009, 05:39 PM)
Hi friends,

My real current situation:

CC
Maybank Visa $3,600
Direct Access MasterCard $16,000 
AmBank Visa $3,500.00
Standard Chartered MasterCard $1,900 
HSBC Visa $19,500
 
Personal Loans
HSBC Amanah Personal Loan-I $23,000
CIMB Overdraft Account / Current Account $10,000

Total: $77,500

Others:
Car Loan
EON Bank $873/mth
Current Salary: $9870/month

Please advise on whether I should join AKPK/DMP programme or try to restructure myself. My current (minimum) monthly payment usually reaches $5K.

Pls help me... Thanks in advance...

Update: 9870 has to minus EPF and tax... so I'll get around rm7800
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Wow what you spend so much on? Buy properties? Shares? Unit trust?
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go Akpk is good...
IF you can accept the consequences....
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what kindna consequences are we looking at?
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Oct 12 2009, 02:45 PM)
what kindna consequences are we looking at?
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you will not be able to apply any new credit facilities while enrolling in the DMP.
your current credit facilities (credit card) will be cancelled.

but it is good though because by this way we can prevent ourselves from accumulating more debts.
try to settle slowly..once you are in the good financial situation in future, u still can apply for any new credit facilities after
you finish your programme with AKPK.

by the way, you are not required to enroll in the programme for a long time if you can have enough money to make full settlement while
you are in the programme.

let say you enroll in the programme for 10 years (which is the max tenure).
within 2 years you had sufficient money and plan to make full settlement.
what you need to do is go to the particular bank (your creditors) and make the full settlement.
get a release letter from the bank as a proof you make the full settlement and then forward the letter to AKPK.
your programme will be stop and then after your name cleared, you still able to apply a new credit facilities.
but make sure after graduate from the programme you manage your financial properly.
learn from your previous mistake.
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Hi would like to get some advice from you guys here, kinda bit in a mess now.

Credit cards:
Citibank RM7k
Ambank Rm4k

Personal loan
RM12K

Hire Purchase
RM1600

Recently been lay off from work, but happy thing is gonna start work in December but problem getting a car cause blacklisted. Anywhere, my problem here will AKPk help me?

Thank you for your time
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sigh... so a lot of young people stuck with cc debit.. me also.. PL + CC around 70k.. can't remember how i spend them....sigh.
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QUOTE(wnvoo @ Dec 4 2009, 10:29 AM)
sigh... so a lot of young people stuck with cc debit.. me also.. PL + CC around 70k.. can't remember how i spend them....sigh.
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how young are you?
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Basic question

What is AKPK ? What is it for ?
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Dec 7 2009, 11:58 PM)
Basic question

What is AKPK ? What is it for ?
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Refer the previous reply and you will find the web site. Access and read.


Added on December 13, 2009, 12:10 pmI wonder would someone who is knowledgeable in AKPK matters can compile a FAQ base on the questions asked here or that they faced frequently. This would be a big help to those in need.

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Thank you AKPK...my Loan + cc debt is under control...fuhh..lega...no more dept collector
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QUOTE(bekman @ Dec 13 2009, 11:56 AM)
Refer the previous reply and you will find the web site.  Access and read.


Added on December 13, 2009, 12:10 pmI wonder would someone who is knowledgeable in AKPK matters can compile a FAQ base on the questions asked here or that they faced frequently.  This would be a big help to those in need.
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hi... thank you for your suggestions... as for the FAQ, you can visit our website @ www.akpk.org.my to get more info on how we help those who are in need... smile.gif

on top of that, we are going to launch a social site so everyone can mingle around ,play with it and get support from AKPK to help you... smile.gif

I will update here for everyone... and i will also try my best to assist everyone with their enquiries... smile.gif

cheers!
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jan 10 2010, 02:42 PM)
hi... thank you for your suggestions... as for the FAQ, you can visit our website @ www.akpk.org.my to get more info on how we help those who are in need... smile.gif

on top of that, we are going to launch a social site so everyone can mingle around ,play with it and get support from AKPK to help you... smile.gif

I will update here for everyone... and i will also try my best to assist everyone with their enquiries... smile.gif

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Hi,

I have a few questions which I do not find them in the previous posts:

1. Say if I have Credit Cards with Bank A, B & C. I have outstanding balance with Bank A & B. Bank C is clean. If I join the AKPK program, can I surrender CC with Bank A & B, and keep the Bank C?

2. If I have Home Loan with Bank D and apply refinancing with Bank E. Bank E has approved my Home Loan but has not release the loan yet as paper works usually take a few months. So I am still paying installment for Bank D. If I join the AKPK program now, will Bank E cancel the Home Loan which they approved earlier?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(call4help @ Jan 12 2010, 08:25 AM)
Hi,

I have a few questions which I do not find them in the previous posts:

1. Say if I have Credit Cards with Bank A, B & C.  I have outstanding balance with Bank A & B. Bank C is clean.  If I join the AKPK program, can I surrender CC with Bank A & B, and keep the Bank C?
No, once you are under AKPK programme, all your credit card facility will be terminated.

2. If I have Home Loan with Bank D and apply refinancing with Bank E.  Bank E has approved my Home Loan but has not release the loan yet as paper works usually take a few months.  So I am still paying installment for Bank D.  If I join the AKPK program now, will Bank E cancel the Home Loan which they approved earlier?
It will be based on Bank D, Bank E will cancel the loan.

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QUOTE(call4help @ Jan 12 2010, 08:25 AM)
Hi,

I have a few questions which I do not find them in the previous posts:

1. Say if I have Credit Cards with Bank A, B & C.  I have outstanding balance with Bank A & B. Bank C is clean.  If I join the AKPK program, can I surrender CC with Bank A & B, and keep the Bank C?

2. If I have Home Loan with Bank D and apply refinancing with Bank E.  Bank E has approved my Home Loan but has not release the loan yet as paper works usually take a few months.  So I am still paying installment for Bank D.  If I join the AKPK program now, will Bank E cancel the Home Loan which they approved earlier?

Thanks.
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1. No, your card would be canceled.
2. Am not sure.

Anyway, AKPK wouldn't just simply "enroll" everyone. They would ask for your pay slips and all and even ask you to list down your expenses. Than they would help you to calculate your financial burden and help come up with a payment options see whether or not you can afford it.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Jan 12 2010, 10:51 AM)
1. No, your card would be canceled.
2. Am not sure.

Anyway, AKPK wouldn't just simply "enroll" everyone. They would ask for your pay slips and all and even ask you to list down your expenses. Than they would help you to calculate your financial burden and help come up with a payment options see whether or not you can afford it.
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Thanks for all that replied.

The reason I asked here is coz I see some signs that I will need AKPK help soon... I mean very soon.
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By the way,

If you all wanted to know how much total monthly payment for 10 years under APKP.

This is the formula.

total debt x 0.013 = monthly payment ( however will still subject to bank to accept or review )


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can see that now lotz of ppl are "stuck" with credit card... i think the best way is bank negara should take some action like each person should allow to apply one visa and one master card no matter form which bank... then only can reduce the "huge" debt amount....
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QUOTE(alexkwlee @ Jan 16 2010, 08:29 AM)
can see that now lotz of ppl are "stuck" with credit card... i think the best way is bank negara should take some action like each person should allow to apply one visa and one master card no matter form which bank... then only can reduce the "huge" debt amount....
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will that help when the banks can increase the credit limits (as they wish)?
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May be it is the responsibility of the cc users to pay off every month.

CC can be two blades of a sword, if you use it properly, it brings you convenience, security and for emergency.

If you do not use it properly, then it become a big debt, overspending and high interest.

Like what we can see in the threads, it is not related to personal income for those who are in debt. It is about their spending and paying habits.

Whether you have high or low salary, without proper financial management, you will fall into the trap.
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QUOTE(epalbee3 @ Jan 16 2010, 09:32 AM)
May be it is the responsibility of the cc users to pay off every month.

CC can be two blades of a sword, if you use it properly, it brings you convenience, security and for emergency.

If you do not use it properly, then it become a big debt, overspending and high interest.

Like what we can see in the threads, it is not related to personal income for those who are in debt. It is about their spending and paying habits.

Whether you have high or low salary, without proper financial management, you will fall into the trap.
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nod.gif yes, i agree...it is about proper management of your personal finances....not putting the blames on the plastic cards...if u have the discipline, you wun fall into debt trap (unless emergency)
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QUOTE(alexkwlee @ Jan 16 2010, 08:29 AM)
can see that now lotz of ppl are "stuck" with credit card... i think the best way is bank negara should take some action like each person should allow to apply one visa and one master card no matter form which bank... then only can reduce the "huge" debt amount....
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That is probably why the government introduce the "service tax" charges to deter consumer on holding too many cards. wink.gif

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I enrolled with AKPK since last year april. I can only say AKPK really can help if you really no more "jalan".

you can actually choose AKPK to temporary help you (choose the maximum tenure), and settle your debts when you are ready to do so.

any one with debts who can't pay or find difficulty servicing the minimum payment every month to your cc, you got no choice, go for AKPK.

after you enrolled. try to get more salary/income, or start some small business to make some money so that you can repay your debt faster.

you can still open up a business current account after you are enrolled to AKPK, only thing you cannot get loan/cc. think about it, that might be temporary only. if you do not settle it before bankruptcy, situation will become worst......

decide and do it immediately.
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may I know how AKPK can help in solve debt issue ?

is it possible to convert all my cc debt into one term loan account ? or can AKPK help to get loan for me ?

i dun wish to cancel my card as i have no issue pay for my normal spending. Problem rise is when i jobless for few months so use up my cc, and now min is too high. i tend to keep 2 of my cc for usage
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 14 2010, 12:07 PM)
may I know how AKPK can help in solve debt issue ?

is it possible to convert all my cc debt into one term loan account ? or can AKPK help to get loan for me ?

i dun wish to cancel my card as i have no issue pay for my normal spending. Problem rise is when i jobless for few months so use up my cc, and now min is too high. i tend to keep 2 of my cc for usage
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they would help draft up a repayment plan and present it to the banks.
So yes, your cards would be cut and changed into term loan. You would not be having any unsecured facilities during the time you are enrolled with AKPK.

If you really think you have no way out, go pay them a visit.

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yes.. AKPK do really can help ppl in restructuring their debts..... anyhow, AKPK do inform as long as you are paying them the amount stated, then you are out of problems.. but if you missed it, then all your debts with CC will back to normal and those legal letter will starts coming again... you can opt to pay faster, but not to them, you have to pay the "faster amount" directly to bank... which mean.. you have to pay AKPK and the additional directly to bank... by doing so, it will cut short your tenure with AKPK and clear off your name from CCRIS... smile.gif
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real life experience...
1. pay your akpk instalment monthly...
2. save money
3. when enuf call the bank directly and ask for full and final settlement, negotiate for discount

o/s final settlement
SCB 15K 7.5K
CIMB 11K 6.5K
EON 8.5K 7.5K
CITI 4k 3.5k

will save MORE!!
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 14 2010, 12:07 PM)
may I know how AKPK can help in solve debt issue ?

is it possible to convert all my cc debt into one term loan account ? or can AKPK help to get loan for me ?

i dun wish to cancel my card as i have no issue pay for my normal spending. Problem rise is when i jobless for few months so use up my cc, and now min is too high. i tend to keep 2 of my cc for usage
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Hi,

Besides cancel all the CC, is there any other things, like mobile phone, astro, internet, etc need to be cut also?
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Just out of curiosity, if a person has problems with his personal loan and he goes to AKPK does this mean his credit cards are all canceled as well?

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I enrolled with AKPK since last year april. I can only say AKPK really can help if you really no more "jalan".

you can actually choose AKPK to temporary help you (choose the maximum tenure), and settle your debts when you are ready to do so.

any one with debts who can't pay or find difficulty servicing the minimum payment every month to your cc, you got no choice, go for AKPK.

after you enrolled. try to get more salary/income, or start some small business to make some money so that you can repay your debt faster.

you can still open up a business current account after you are enrolled to AKPK, only thing you cannot get loan/cc. think about it, that might be temporary only. if you do not settle it before bankruptcy, situation will become worst......

decide and do it immediately.
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Means you can still open business current account as long as you are not under bankruptcy?
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But if I not mistaken, your name will be recorded in CTOS, or was it CCRIS.
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To lil twist,

I hope you are able to give some advise on my situation. After reading many posts here in this forum, it gave me some kind of idea what akpk's role are.

I guess I have the highest debts among the rest.

Currently I have debts totalling approx RM160k including interest of RM40k. I have not been paying since 1++ year ago, trying to avoid the debts and letters from banks, lawyers etc... I finally decided to sell my house and paying off all the debts at one short and begin a new life again... My house just sold and would be getting back around RM125k which is I guess is enough to pay all the debts depending how much akpk neg with my banks...

My questions are :
1) Do you think akpk could help me to reduce the principal amount if I pay in 1 lump sump? If this could never happen, do you suggest me to neg with banks alone rather than going thru akpk.

2) Do you think I should take the monthly repayment option or settling in full amount? I am hoping after settling the debts, I have some leftover to pay for house downpayment, since our house has solf off and I have a family to care off.

I hope you are able to assist me on this.





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AKPK is good solution to those facing darkness at the end of the tunnel

(1)for people who taught that they can do "tai chi" every minimum monthly repayment but finally meet it match.

(2)for people who have many cards and personal loan but also "tai chi" every month with those free interest balance transfer...etc

AKPK can help you by reducing your minimum monthly payment which you are paying now as much as 70% to 80% with it maximum 10 year debt program scheme.
Once you on this AKPK Wagon,please don't even think of missing it repayment schedule, as AKPK will only help you one time in your lifetime.




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Hi all,
Do AKPK handles company debt case?
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well, i think it won't help much, anyway, no harm trying what they could offer
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Hi,

Want to ask, what happen to the EPF a/cs if someone declare bankruptcy? Still able to withdraw upon retiring age?

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if i plan go for akpk...they will normally cancell all my personal cc...how about if i got 1 corporate card with my compnay...but it's under my name?pls advice

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Dear All,

I have joined AKPK since last year October 2009. Many people still blurr about AKPK. I have better picture about AKPK. Let me
tell all of you my story.

I have a credit card debt nearly RM19K as of September 2009....it was accumulated since year 2002 (int/late charges/ legal fees about RM4K ) My credit limit was RM5k. After joined AKPK , my counsellor (nice lady ...hehehe) , consult with bank and after nego , the bank
agreed to give disc about RM9k.

so RM19K - RM9K = RM10k (new oustanding amount) and at 8% int per annum instead of 17.5% earlier.

after 9 months , i have paid RM1,800 (RM200 X 9 month) . Final Settlement as of today ...just called the bank ..is RM8,200 cry.gif
RM10k - RM1,800k = RM8,200
> after i have given appeal letter....they gave me RM7K as full and final settlement.


So guys if you really "no jalan" then choose AKPK as your savior. BUt remember ..itu AKPK only help one time...in your life.
and no bad payment after you agreed....payment must prompt.

And....normally you need 6 months or more(after final settlement) if you wanna apply loan (depend on the bank) ...never ask same bank you sangkut...cannot ler..this is what my counsellor and bank officer told me.

So i'm going to apply car loan after 3 month (with another bank which i got acc)...see what happen... hmm.gif

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hi there,

~can i know akpk provide any short term like 3~4 years instead of 10 years ?

~ how about after summit the 4 years plan. Can able settle early ? does it hav any early charges or any hidden charges ?


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QUOTE(micncwng @ Jun 23 2010, 04:20 PM)
hi there,

~can i know akpk provide any short term like 3~4 years instead of 10 years ?

~ how about after summit the 4 years plan. Can able settle early ? does it hav any early charges or any hidden charges ?
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1. You can ask for short term like 3 ~ 4 years repayment. Depend on your financial ability

2. Yes. You can do early settlement or final settlement. You need to talk to bank directly. You can nego with bank for your final payment/settlement. Remember....AKPK nego for lower int rate only and also slash your late charges/finance charges..bla..bla.....and propose new starting balance or outstanding amount. Bank still charge interest but should be lower than normal interest charges.
e.g 18% to 9% or 8%

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Who got successfully case that enrolled in AKPK Program and settled. And then able to get either loan or credit card from the same bank?

@hanza : I called and asked, the officer said you can get from the same bank as long as you no longer in AKPK program and records has been erased from Bank Negara.
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jun 24 2010, 12:37 PM)
Who got successfully case that enrolled in AKPK Program and settled. And then able to get either loan or credit card from the same bank?

@hanza : I called and asked, the officer said you can get from the same bank as long as you no longer in AKPK program and records has been erased from Bank Negara.
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but i think that was not so easy to apply back on t same bank.

due to my experince, last time i cramp with a bank in CC. Then i ask for reduce interest & freeze my card until t payment is finish.
End up they cannot reduce my interest, but they can help me freeze my card & pay until finish.

after i finish off the payment, i ask for a fully settlement letter from t bank (due with a prove that i already finish t payment )

after some time, i think after 2~3 years. I reapply CC from t same bank & they reject me. Not that, i Apply for they current account & they also reject me.
I check with t bank negara. My name is clear from everything. Luckly my friend work in this bank. He help me check & found that this bank has internal black list me. Then my friend help me appeal to t bank & show them t letter & my recent record of other bank. End up only my name clear from this bank.

So this was a lesson from me. Maybe u can apply, but i think it's was not that easy. Like my case they did not reduce any interest, that mean i keep repay back to t bank until it's was finish. They also blacklist me in they bank.

So be careful when play with this loan or CC. Hope this mesg will help u !
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I just visit AKPK for their briefing yesterday. Will meet up an important next week and decide if i were to join

Im not sure how AKPK can help me, maybe u guys can advise
my debt as below

HSBC 10K
HLB 7K
CIMB 6K
UOB 6K
MBB 6K

Among these 5 cards, I only still pay HSBC & HLBB. I paid Rm500 monthly for each card , with interest about Rm150 each.

Among the other 3 card, 2 of the card already been converted to EPP , but after sometime, I still couldnt pay.
As of now, all the 3 cards pending for 6 months and ignore all calls from bank since beginning.

My concerns ,

- I heard akpk will cancel all cards. I wish to keep either one my hsbc/hlb card due to convenient as booking etc. Is it possible ?

- On top of all this, i still have 1 old car (I believe being tow away few days back). still owe around RM14k
Total everything owe about 50k ...so I not sure how akpk can help me since I cant pay much monthly ?

- I manage to pay Rm500X2 (2 card) as of now, but I still have balance about RM700 for me to use (petrol etc). if let say i enroll the prog, I cant pay RM1000 for sure, cos my expenses will be stuck

there is lot more complication in my prob. just need some advise for experience bro.

the best way is get loan frm bank rakyat but i tried a lot and rejected cos need 3 year work in same company. otherwise i wont be stuck till now
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Yes, they would cancel all your card.
Also, they would look at your car too. But in this case if you need the car for working purposes, they would help you to adjust also the monthly installment. Else if you have a second car or a motorbike license, they would strongly advise you to sell off the car.

How they work is they would look at your monthly income, then help you plan your outflow, i.e. your necessity first then see how much is left. After that, they would help draft a repayment plan to the bank. Obviously your card would be canceled as you "can't" even afford a card.
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[quote=J'Daniel,Jul 9 2010, 06:55 PM]
I just visit AKPK for their briefing yesterday. Will meet up an important next week and decide if i were to join

Hi J'Daniel,

In you case, i would suggest u try to borrow money from wife/relative/frens/mum/daddy..etc...and settle all the CC . (if can't get personel loan from banks)

If you join AKPK, you have to cancel all you CC.

I have settled all my debts..credit card and HP.....in June 2010. I borrowed money from my wife for about RM15K and
made full & final settlement in June 2010. After that, i quickly write a letter to AKPK and tell my counselor to
take out my name from AKPK program immediately. (joined them Oct 2009)

On July 9, 2010, i have submitted car loan to banks ......will see what is the result next week...
if kantoi..it means i have to wait at least 6 - 12 months ....or 2 years... cry.gif


Good News !!!

After made full & final settlement on 30-6-2010, Car loan apply on 12-7-2010,
on 14-7-2010 bank has approved my car loan....

It means... even i just quit AKPK about 2 weeks....bank still consider my application and succesfull

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Hanza : You write them an appeal letter for the propose discount amount or the bank give you the amount of RM7k that you need to settle?
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I did not have a stable job for the past few years. Only lately found a stable job and all situations come back to normal meaning there are less worry of financials.

I have stop paying 4 of my credit cards for the past 5 years and i think total of the cards past 5 years was around 50k (for all) I did not receive any bankcruptcy letter from the bank yet, however since I am much more stable now, thought of going to see AKPK to help.

But what will my minimum payment for my debts? As I am quite new on the job therefore does not allow me to take off and see AKPK. Please help what shall I do. I know for definetely I am on CTOS or CCRIS but bankcruptcy dunno.

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QUOTE(Narutoboyz2 @ Aug 4 2010, 09:22 PM)
I did not have a stable job for the past few years. Only lately found a stable job and all situations come back to normal meaning there are less worry of financials.

I have stop paying 4 of my credit cards for the past 5 years and i think total of the cards past 5 years was around 50k (for all) I did not receive any bankcruptcy letter from the bank yet, however since I am much more stable now, thought of going to see AKPK to help.

But what will my minimum payment for my debts? As I am quite new on the job therefore does not allow me to take off and see AKPK. Please help what shall I do. I know for definetely I am on CTOS or CCRIS but bankcruptcy dunno.

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You mean you owe RM50k for all your 4 credit cards and you have stopped paying them for the last 5yrs? How could that be? They must definitely somehow call you non stop the moment you delay your payments.
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QUOTE(Narutoboyz2 @ Aug 4 2010, 09:22 PM)
I did not have a stable job for the past few years. Only lately found a stable job and all situations come back to normal meaning there are less worry of financials.

I have stop paying 4 of my credit cards for the past 5 years and i think total of the cards past 5 years was around 50k (for all) I did not receive any bankcruptcy letter from the bank yet, however since I am much more stable now, thought of going to see AKPK to help.

But what will my minimum payment for my debts? As I am quite new on the job therefore does not allow me to take off and see AKPK. Please help what shall I do. I know for definetely I am on CTOS or CCRIS but bankcruptcy dunno.

Lost of direction already. Please help. icon_question.gif
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Anyway, I think AKPK would still accept your case. They would take into calculation your total pay vs your monthly essential spending before coming up with a payment plan for you towards the bank.

Also, spend some time to go through that topic to understand further on AKPK.
Btw, you'll need to owe someone RM30k before they can sue you bankrupt. Your RM50k are from 4 different banks thus you're not being sued for bankruptcy.
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if i joined akpk, can i apply for house loan. i joined akpk to pay my cc and to save some money.
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QUOTE(Narutoboyz2 @ Aug 4 2010, 09:22 PM)
I did not have a stable job for the past few years. Only lately found a stable job and all situations come back to normal meaning there are less worry of financials.

I have stop paying 4 of my credit cards for the past 5 years and i think total of the cards past 5 years was around 50k (for all) I did not receive any bankcruptcy letter from the bank yet, however since I am much more stable now, thought of going to see AKPK to help.

But what will my minimum payment for my debts? As I am quite new on the job therefore does not allow me to take off and see AKPK. Please help what shall I do. I know for definetely I am on CTOS or CCRIS but bankcruptcy dunno.

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hi narutoboyz2,

i strongly suggest you to check with all 4 banks on your outstanding amount first... by then you can determine how much actually you owe with those banks. nod.gif

as for the minimum, AKPK offers 9% to 12% depending on the negotiation with the banks... what i can confirm is that you will not need to pay as much as RM2500 (assume 5% of 50k) it will be lower than that, for sure... biggrin.gif

should you need further assistance, you can always call AKPK's toll-free number at 1-800-88-2575 icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Max_07s @ Sep 2 2010, 11:04 AM)
if i joined akpk, can i apply for house loan. i joined akpk to pay my cc and to save some money.
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Dear all, I'm back I went to AKPK to listen to their briefing and was being told to get the latest statement from my 3 outstanding banks...gosh...the owing amount is huge it is double of what I have use for my credit card.

But then I got questions, I was in 1 of the bank and the officer advise me to look into getting personal loan, and apparenty Bank Rakyat offer such loan. Will it better to get the personal loan and settle off the payment or still go through AKPK?

Confuse again....
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QUOTE(Narutoboyz2 @ Sep 17 2010, 07:58 PM)
Dear all, I'm back I went to AKPK to listen to their briefing and was being told to get the latest statement from my 3 outstanding banks...gosh...the owing amount is huge it is double of what I have use for my credit card.

But then I got questions, I was in 1 of the bank and the officer advise me to look into getting personal loan, and apparenty Bank Rakyat offer such loan. Will it better to get the personal loan and settle off the payment or still go through AKPK?

Confuse again....
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Go to AKPK, getting a personal loan to settle another loan is like digging one hole to fill another. And as you mentioned, the 'advice' comes from a bank officer who more or less just wants more business.

AKPK would be able to offer you another point of view before you decide on what you want to do.


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QUOTE(Narutoboyz2 @ Aug 4 2010, 09:22 PM)
I did not have a stable job for the past few years. Only lately found a stable job and all situations come back to normal meaning there are less worry of financials.

I have stop paying 4 of my credit cards for the past 5 years and i think total of the cards past 5 years was around 50k (for all) I did not receive any bankcruptcy letter from the bank yet, however since I am much more stable now, thought of going to see AKPK to help.

But what will my minimum payment for my debts? As I am quite new on the job therefore does not allow me to take off and see AKPK. Please help what shall I do. I know for definetely I am on CTOS or CCRIS but bankcruptcy dunno.

Lost of direction already. Please help. icon_question.gif
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If I am not wrong, the banks cannot combine the total credit you owe to issue you a bankruptcy letter. So unless you owe one single bank RM30k, they cannot consider you bankrupt, some can help clarify this.

However, surely you would have received tons of warning letter for payment? And please, do go see AKPK before it is any later than it is already.

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I called up respective bank for the outstanding balance as I wanted to make the full settlement.

Hong Leong Bank confirmed my outstanding balance last week for 3 times that the amount is RM3k ... I even called up for double confirmation as I want to make the payment today.

The officer confirmed that the amount is RM3k .... after 30minutes, the officer call me say sorry that the figure should be RM4k instead of 4k.

So what you guys think? I pay for 3k or 4k?
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QUOTE(hanza @ Jun 23 2010, 10:57 AM)
Dear All,

I have joined AKPK since last year October 2009. Many people still blurr about AKPK. I have better picture about AKPK. Let me
tell all of you my story.

I have a credit card debt nearly RM19K  as of September 2009....it was accumulated since year 2002 (int/late charges/ legal fees about RM4K )  My credit limit was RM5k. After joined AKPK , my counsellor (nice lady ...hehehe) , consult with bank and after nego , the bank
agreed to give disc about RM9k.

so RM19K - RM9K  = RM10k (new oustanding amount) and at 8% int per annum instead of 17.5% earlier.

after 9 months , i have paid RM1,800  (RM200 X 9 month) .  Final Settlement as of today ...just called the bank ..is  RM8,200 cry.gif
RM10k - RM1,800k = RM8,200
> after i have given appeal letter....they gave me RM7K as full and final settlement.
So guys if you really "no jalan" then choose AKPK as your savior. BUt remember ..itu AKPK only help one time...in your life.
and no bad payment after you agreed....payment must prompt.

And....normally you need 6 months or more(after final settlement)  if you wanna apply loan (depend on the bank) ...never ask same bank you sangkut...cannot ler..this is what my counsellor and bank officer told me.

So i'm going to apply car loan after 3 month (with another bank which i got acc)...see what happen... hmm.gif
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wah....thats good...9k discount from the bank... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

anyhow, im glad im still in good financing state..just hoping to do more savings for future plan.. smile.gif

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hi all,
this my first post..
wanna know if there is any solution for my problem..

i've 5 CC with total = RM 20k
then 1 personal loan = RM 15k
all above was apply at 2006.
after 1 year, 1 failed to maintain the payment..
refer to akpk at 2007 because there is no other option..
i've try to make loan to do settlement but failed..
only able to maintain @ akpk till 2008..
after that no payment made..
it is due to some misunderstanding in between me n akpk..
i decide to invest the money into some other stuff..
during that time i thought to invest the money such swiss cash & empay..
consequence is .. i loss all...
day 2 days come with no other side income..
what a shame..
alternatively..
is there anything i can do with any financial inst. to settle the problem?
fyi, i already out from akpk program..
i glad to received any comments.. no matter -ve or +ve

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QUOTE(tabib @ Oct 5 2010, 12:43 PM)
hi all,
this my first post..
wanna know if there is any solution for my problem..

i've 5 CC with total = RM 20k
then 1 personal loan = RM 15k
all above was apply at 2006.
after 1 year, 1 failed to maintain the payment..
refer to akpk at 2007 because there is no other option..
i've try to make loan to do settlement but failed..
only able to maintain @ akpk till 2008..
after that no payment made..
it is due to some misunderstanding in between me n akpk..
i decide to invest the money into some other stuff..
during that time i thought to invest the money such swiss cash & empay..
consequence is .. i loss all...
day 2 days come with no other side income..
what a shame..
alternatively..
is there anything i can do with any financial inst. to settle the problem?
fyi, i already out from akpk program..
i glad to received any comments.. no matter -ve or +ve
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Hi all,

My total debt with cc is around 13k:
Citibank RM5k
Direct Access RM8k

Im not sure whether AKPK will enroll my case. What do you think. Is is better to pay monthly to bank directly (after restructuring) or should i just refer AKPK

now im paying 700 per month just to clear the minimum payment.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Oct 12 2010, 12:46 PM)
Hi all,

My total debt with cc is around 13k:
Citibank RM5k
Direct Access RM8k

Im not sure whether AKPK will enroll my case. What do you think. Is is better to pay monthly to bank directly (after restructuring) or should i just refer AKPK

now im paying 700 per month just to clear the minimum payment.. sad.gif
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i was trapped more or less like u last time. Total rm11k frm 2 ccs. I finally applied for a personal loan and cancelled d 2 cards. Only resort 2 akpk when its ur absolutely final choice
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Need your opinion:

My Credit Card = RM4,000 (min RM200)
Personal Loan= RM9,000++ (Monthly installment RM230)
Hire Purchase = RM42,000 (montly installment RM600)

My nett salary = RM2,410

Other expanses: Room rental RM420
Phone bill: RM100 (me and my mom's)

I know RM1k balance seems okay to some people but for me my money went out without me saving anything. Not a single cent! N yes, I have PTPTN loan oso that I have never paid since I graduated 3 years ago rclxub.gif

Those who have experience with AKPK what kind of 'reduce' do you think they'll make as I read they only deal wih CC and PL. My dept is 43% of my salary so I have always live waiting for my next paycheque cry.gif



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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Oct 12 2010, 12:46 PM)
Hi all,

My total debt with cc is around 13k:
Citibank RM5k
Direct Access RM8k

Im not sure whether AKPK will enroll my case. What do you think. Is is better to pay monthly to bank directly (after restructuring) or should i just refer AKPK

now im paying 700 per month just to clear the minimum payment.. sad.gif
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No need AKPK.... cut yr card, jst pay RM700/month and within 2 years, u will be debt free rclxm9.gif .... and btw, if u r puffing, quite that biggrin.gif ... RM9 x 15 packs month x 24 months = Just enough to pay all your cc interest icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(nemoexcel @ Oct 18 2010, 12:33 AM)
No need AKPK.... cut yr card, jst pay RM700/month and within 2 years, u will be debt free  rclxm9.gif  .... and btw, if u r puffing, quite that  biggrin.gif  ... RM9 x 15 packs  month x 24 months = Just enough to pay all your cc interest  icon_idea.gif
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bad things is... i dont smoke ( this sentence doesnt sound right, right.. laugh.gif )

i call bank last week, ask them for credit card restructuring..

convert all my balance into term loan, 5years repayment.. altogether CIMB + CITI i need to pay rm300+ for the next 5 years, which i think i can cope with that.. smile.gif

AKPK indeed is our last resort, the banker told me once in AKPK, ur chance to get any loan in future migh laugh.gif reduce a bit, even u r cleared with AKPK. But of course i dont trust every single explanation form the banker.. they sure dont want me to bring this to AKPKm arnt they.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Oct 18 2010, 12:38 PM)
bad things is... i dont smoke ( this sentence doesnt sound right, right..  laugh.gif )

i call bank last week, ask them for credit card restructuring..

convert all my balance into term loan, 5years repayment.. altogether CIMB + CITI i need to pay rm300+ for the next 5 years, which i think i can cope with that.. smile.gif

AKPK indeed is our last resort, the banker told me once in AKPK, ur chance to get any loan in future migh laugh.gif  reduce a bit, even u r cleared with AKPK. But of course i dont trust every single explanation form the banker.. they sure dont want me to bring this to AKPKm arnt they.. biggrin.gif
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there u go... good, at least u DID something about it...give yourself a pat.. rather than some ppl jst sit on it, wait for legal suit to come knock on their door !! 5 years is comfortable, but u end up pay more interest... as long as u r comfortable, its a good solution too ..... but warning,,, dont incur NEW DEBTS in this 5 years .... lol.... if u r planning to get that new Civic 3 years later, u might as well pay RM700 now and be DEBT FREE 2 years later ..... lol
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Help....

I have PL debt around 25k from 3 diff banks ( pay RM740 for all p/month!!!!)..... CC debt in Term Loan UOB- 3k ( pay 110 p/month) MBB -7k (pay 250 p/month) and an active CC usage already 8k ( repay minimum RM500 p/month- then usually used again for bill payments)...


Total repay p/month RM1500 ( half of my salary!!!!)



I have outstanding payment on ALL 2-3 months..... I cant cope anymore.....

Should I refer to AKPK?????



Help me........ I have no house, no car....I pay rent 600 p/month.....I am all out broke!
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Yes you need AKPK. But bear in mind that once you enrolled with them; you would left with no active CC.
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KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 13, 2010): From 2005 until July this year, the Insolvency Department has handled 83,389 bankruptcy cases, Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Liew Vui Keong said.

Of this, 1,046 or 1.25% were those below 25 years old, he said in reply to Datuk Aaron Ago Dagang (BN-Kanowit) who asked for the number of youths declared bankrupt in the past five years and the contributing factor.

"Among the causes identified were failure to settle vehicle hire-purchase loan (487 cases), personal loan (354), business loan (77), housing loan (49), credit card loan (1), (standing as) corporate guarantor (18), (standing as) social guarantor (52), income tax (6) and scholarship or study loan (2)," he said.

Liew said the government has taken several initiatives to tackle this problem and managed to reduce the bankruptcy level among youths this year.

"For the first seven months this year, there were 139 cases involving those below 25 compared to 251 within the same period last year – a 44.6% reduction.


Source: http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=52872
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Hi guys.. i have a serious financial problem now..http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1627750
i just back from Australia and i notice my ex wife haven pay house loan that is under my name for 15 months..check with the bank last wednesday that i need to pay the 15 months delay payment before i can do anything with the house.. i dont have that kind of money with me. when i leave for Australia the loan amount is only RM 165k but after 15 months didnt pay the amount balloon to Rm 185k.. i didnt have any loan with bank before and you guys think is it a good idea for me to join AKPK? Advise is needed here.. i am blur now.. dont know what to do..

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QUOTE(muitao @ Nov 7 2010, 01:07 AM)
Hi guys.. i have a serious financial problem now..http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1627750
i just back from Australia and i notice my ex wife haven pay house loan that is under my name for 15 months..check with the bank last wednesday that i need to pay the 15 months delay payment before i can do anything with the house.. i dont have that kind of money with me. when i leave for Australia the loan amount is only RM 165k but after 15 months didnt pay the amount balloon to Rm 185k.. i didnt have any loan with bank before and you guys think is it a good idea for me to join AKPK? Advise is needed here.. i am blur now.. dont know what to do..
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akpk does not deal with housing loan, only personal loan n cc outstanding. Try to discus with ur bank, reschedule payment perhaps..
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Who says AKPK doesn't deal with Housing Loan?
AKPK would also take Housing Loan into account. So in the event housing loan monthly repayment is found to be a burden; they would also help in getting restructuring from the respective banks.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 11 2010, 12:55 PM)
Who says AKPK doesn't deal with Housing Loan?
AKPK would also take Housing Loan into account. So in the event housing loan monthly repayment is found to be a burden; they would also help in getting restructuring from the respective banks.
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taking housing loan into account is on case to case basis... usually we don't as it is a secured loan, so can't really do much... but, no harm trying... biggrin.gif

as some people think we do ah long loans, well, honestly, we do... BUT, not restructuring your ah long loans, we do your other loans to accommodate your ah long payments... nod.gif

feel free to PM me with regards to AKPK as i can assist you where i can... thumbup.gif
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guys, i need help, i have join AKPK program since 2007, i plan to buy an apartment but since that im under the program nothing much i can do. is it possible to me to apply any personal loan and pay off all the cc debt. my total debt is:

maybank 2500
OCBC 3000
public 3000
RHB 2500
ambank 2500

montly income 3500 and i pay AKPK for RM755 per month, the question is where i can go to apply the personal loan? i've calculate that if i can loan for RM17k+interest i can pay same amount as AKPK payment in only 2 years.

thanks
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QUOTE(senora @ Nov 24 2010, 09:52 AM)
guys, i need help, i have join AKPK program since 2007, i plan to buy an apartment but since that im under the program nothing much i can do. is it possible to me to apply any personal loan and pay off all the cc debt. my total debt is:

maybank 2500
OCBC 3000
public 3000
RHB 2500
ambank 2500

montly income 3500 and i pay AKPK for RM755 per month, the question is where i can go to apply the personal loan? i've calculate that if i can loan for RM17k+interest i can pay same amount as AKPK payment in only 2 years.

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my advice is clear off the cc debt before adding any more. do u really need an apartment so urgent? if it is for investment then it is risky. if for own staying then delay ur plan in buying apartment before clearing the cc debt.

just my 2 cents.
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Hi all,

I know it's a little noob question. but i heard that we cannot buy life insurance if we enroll in akpk, is it true?
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Hi all,

I know it's a little noob question. but i heard that we cannot buy life insurance if we enroll in akpk, is it true?
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You may only not be able to get another loan while you are under akpk programme
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QUOTE(lil twist @ May 12 2009, 09:48 PM)
hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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hi friends..

i m Alex hre. now i have financial problem to paid my minumum payment for my credit card and personal loan.
my total debt for personal loan and credit card = 250k

my net wages was RM5k, i use this to pay my wife old debt as she is not working and also my family expenses.

i going to seek AKPK this week for seminar talk. just wander AKPK will consider my expenses on my wife side or not since i use most of my income to pay off her debt???

please advise since you are working in AKPK b4 i proceed.

many thanks

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QUOTE(tclim168 @ Dec 8 2010, 03:40 PM)
hi friends..

i m Alex hre. now i have financial problem to paid my minumum payment for my credit card and personal loan.
my total debt for personal loan and credit card = 250k

my net wages was RM5k, i use this to pay my wife old debt as she is not working and also my family expenses.

i going to seek AKPK this week for seminar talk. just wander AKPK will consider my expenses on my wife side or not since i use most of my income to pay off her debt???

please advise since you are working in AKPK b4 i proceed.

many thanks
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hi Alex. smile.gif
sorry for the late reply. notworthy.gif

it's good to know that you want to seek AKPK's assistance as what i can see there, you really need to come as soon as possible.

we look the debts in totality and since you've mentioned that you are paying for your wife's debt, it means that you need a joint application.

so, total debt (yours and your wife's debt) will be put under 1 account and payment should be made either or both (looking into your situation, it will be you only).

hope this helps. smile.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Dec 10 2010, 01:15 PM)
hi Alex. smile.gif
sorry for the late reply.  notworthy.gif

it's good to know that you want to seek AKPK's assistance as what i can see there, you really need to come as soon as possible.

we look the debts in totality and since you've mentioned that you are paying for your wife's debt, it means that you need a joint application.

so, total debt (yours and your wife's debt) will be put under 1 account and payment should be made either or both (looking into your situation, it will be you only).

hope this helps. smile.gif
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hi..thanks for your reply
when you said joint accounts..do my wife need to to AKPK?
i thought i one to kept my wife name clean so that in future when v really need to do some borrowing , at least her name still clean and can borrow...?hi..any


hi..any reply for my question here?????????/

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QUOTE(tclim168 @ Dec 10 2010, 05:44 PM)
hi..thanks for your reply
when you said joint accounts..do my wife need to to AKPK?
i thought i one to kept my wife name clean so that in future when v really need to do some borrowing , at least her name still clean and can borrow...?hi..any
hi..any reply for my question here?????????/
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Well, when you do joint account, means both name will be tagged in CCRIS.. you cant do much to not include ur wife to join akpk program as its her debt, not urs.. wink.gif

As u know, every debt will be fully owned by the borrowers rite? So, it means that in order to clear ur wife's debt with discounts, u have to join both of your account.. nod.gif

But, i would say its on case to case basis in akpk, so it is advisable to talk to the counsellor for in depth details.. smile.gif

Again, sorry for the late reply as i rarely online on weekends.. notworthy.gif
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I sign up for AKPK program. But still no response from them.
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I went to akpk session before ... But decided not to enroll ....

My my advise, use akpk as very last option ...
And mist of us here that still young ie below 30... U can only use akpk once ...

With self discipline ... U can reduce ur hutang .... Like i did .... Now me hutang free!!!
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Unless you have no other option then go for AKPK.

Once you're on AKPK, you wont be able to get any loan, CC.

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QUOTE(tclim168 @ Dec 8 2010, 03:40 PM)
hi friends..

i m Alex hre. now i have financial problem to paid my minumum payment for my credit card and personal loan.
my total debt for personal loan and credit card = 250k

my net wages was RM5k, i use this to pay my wife old debt as she is not working and also my family expenses.

i going to seek AKPK this week for seminar talk. just wander AKPK will consider my expenses on my wife side or not since i use most of my income to pay off her debt???

please advise since you are working in AKPK b4 i proceed.

many thanks
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QUOTE(pleomax7 @ Dec 14 2010, 03:37 PM)
I sign up for AKPK program. But still no response from them.
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Added on December 21, 2010, 8:44 am
QUOTE(tabib @ Oct 5 2010, 12:43 PM)
hi all,
this my first post..
wanna know if there is any solution for my problem..

i've 5 CC with total = RM 20k
then 1 personal loan = RM 15k
all above was apply at 2006.
after 1 year, 1 failed to maintain the payment..
refer to akpk at 2007 because there is no other option..
i've try to make loan to do settlement but failed..
only able to maintain @ akpk till 2008..
after that no payment made..
it is due to some misunderstanding in between me n akpk..
i decide to invest the money into some other stuff..
during that time i thought to invest the money such swiss cash & empay..
consequence is .. i loss all...
day 2 days come with no other side income..
what a shame..
alternatively..
is there anything i can do with any financial inst. to settle the problem?
fyi, i already out from akpk program..
i glad to received any comments.. no matter -ve or +ve
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akpk one can help u 1 time oni bro... if fail 2nd time then they can't help u anymore.... any bad also pls dont go to "ah long"... wink.gif

This post has been edited by alexkwlee: Dec 21 2010, 08:44 AM
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hi all members:

Now i have financial problem to paid my minumum payment for my credit card and personal loan.
Total personal loan+ credit card around RM100k.
My salary RM3K.
My expense one month around RM2.3k.

If apply AKPK how to calculate to monthly install?



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QUOTE(kl9995 @ Dec 31 2010, 09:01 PM)
hi all members:

Now i have financial problem to paid my minumum payment for my credit card and personal loan.
Total personal loan+ credit card around RM100k.
My salary RM3K.
My expense one month around RM2.3k.

If apply AKPK how to calculate to monthly install?
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you need to see the counsellor first to discuss on the monthly installment... nod.gif

based on the figures shown above, you need to see AKPK fast! wink.gif
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jan 12 2011, 01:13 PM)
you need to see the counsellor first to discuss on the monthly installment... nod.gif

based on the figures shown above, you need to see AKPK fast!  wink.gif
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Hi... I hope someone can help me answer this few questions before I go enroll with AKPK.

I over used my CC sometime ago on medical hospitals bills. Now I've been paying so much just to clear on interest only. Now that I have a family of my own (with a newborn baby) I wish I could control my financial power again... I have a few questions..

1) My husband and I was thinking of getting a house together, but since I'm now in debts, we might reconsider it. Only concern is during my enrollment, will it effect my husband? (knowing that Bank Negara can check)

2) After I've settle all my debts with AKPK, is it possible to apply loan (such as housing loan?)

3) I owe a total of 23K (CC & PL), should I go to the bank to nego or go to AKPK?

4) Will my employee knows my status with AKPK? It wouldn't be so nice to have everyone knows of my current situation.

5) I'm now a contract staff, will AKPK consider my application?
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before joining AKPK... why dont u all try to use the service from AMBANK..

-we can SAVE your ANNUAL INTEREST from 17.5% reduce to 9% PER ANNUM..

-can AVOID all LATE PAYMENT CHARGES and PENALTIES..

-LOWER MONTHLY REPAYMENT from 5% reduce to 2.5% MONTHLY REPAYMENT..(TO THE SAME BANK AND SAME ACCOUNT)
EXP: if you have a 10k outstanding.. you need to pay the minimum 5% to the bank is around rm500 per month.. but once you restructure your outstanding.. you just need to pay around rm277.77 per month to the same bank and same account...

-GUARANTEE SETTLE WITH IN 1,2 or 3YEARS....

-THIS SERVICE IS FOR ALL 14BANKS IN MALAYSIA

-NO SERVICE CHARGE..NO SERVICE FEE.. NO FEES AT ALL..

-------- ---------------- ----------------- ---------------------- ----------------


if joining AKPK u all will be blacklisted.. can't apply any loan or credit card anymore...

but if u restructure and use this service.. u are free from CTOS/CRISS problem.. this is the service that i can provide to those people have a outstanding problem.. if anything just PM me or EMAIL me.. leave your phone number and i will call u A.S.A.P..

im here to help..
not selling anything..
i will try my best to help those needed this service..

peace no war..
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If I am on AKPK and now I want to open a business, can I still appy loan for business purpose?
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Hi All ,

I have been under AKPK Program for more than 2 years now. AKPK was my last chance to restructuring my finance after all other avenue fails. (Balance Transfer , PL , etc2).

What I can say that AKPK work fine for me and I have had a good night sleep for the last 2 years.

Now , I had one enquiry to those in the knowledge here.

Before AKPK we had a small car . Now with the additional family member coming , we need a bigger ones. Not new one , just the second hand MPV within 40 to 60K.

From what I understand , it is up to the Bank to approve or reject my car loan . The most I would lost is the processing fees. Before going into this direction , I would like to hear other opinions and experience on this.

If my wife apply the loan instead and use me as guarantor (since she is not working). Will the application also be denied?.

Thanks all for any advice on the above.


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When I reading thru quite some post in here. I found that some does not earning that much while they bear a very high debt especially on Personal Loan and CC.

My question is, could AKPK lias with Bank in order to prevent this happen?
What is the bank Credit approval to let someone to have such high borrowing with their income.

Just a suggestion, IMO.
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bro,

when we are under AKPK program, we knew that we cannot apply for CC any more due to our records already not so nice at bank negara.

Can i ask, is any bank offer service like i deposit RM20k to the bank, bank hold the money and give me a credit card with RM20k limit? without credit card is a problem when travelling over sea especially for hotel....

any one have any idea?


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use debit card then
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I would like to meet one of the AKPK counsellors.

I am working M-F and can't take days off since i just started working.
Please help. I would like to setup an appointment on Saturdays.

Is there is any kind consultant that can help me? How to go around this? Thanks.
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how much ur total bad debt?
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RM150K.

Please guide me on settling this. I got a stable income.
How long it takes to process my AKPK application?

What are the steps? Go to Bank Negara etc? Can you email me the checklist? Thanks.

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how much ur total bad debt?
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I would like to meet one of the AKPK counsellors.

I am working M-F and can't take days off since i just started working. 
Please help. I would like to setup an appointment on Saturdays. 

Is there is any kind consultant that can help me?  How to go around this? Thanks.
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I think there is morning session on saturday @ KL branch. May refer to their website.
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Hmm newbie here need some advise
I have a debt of near 15k all cc, wondering should i apply a personal loan to settle the 15k cc debt and slowly repay monthly for the personal loan?
Or should i perform partial balance transfer from cc a to cc b maybe?
Need some advise ty
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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Mar 4 2011, 09:51 PM)
Hmm newbie here need some advise
I have a debt of near 15k all cc, wondering should i apply a personal loan to settle the 15k cc debt and slowly repay monthly for the personal loan?
Or should i perform partial balance transfer from cc a to cc b maybe?
Need some advise ty
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personally i think 15k is still manageable if you have some income coming in, not yet for AKPK anyway. look into balance transfer options first, then other methods.
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QUOTE(sharilazri @ Mar 4 2011, 01:25 AM)
I think there is morning session on saturday @ KL branch. May refer to their website.
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Please refer to the linky... --> http://www.akpk.org.my/Portals/0/Articles/...oun_brief_c.pdf
Pls indicate which session has the Saturday morning, sir? Thanks.



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My dad debt RM150k.

monthly installment need pay RM1800/mth for 10years.

so your salary must be around RM3000 in order to process.

AKPK cannot reduce any interest charged into your account. AKPK can only reduce the installment amount and also prolong the duration with interest around 8-10%

Unless if orang cacat maybe can get 6-7%
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Not a good deal 60k interest!
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any i try this situatation before. Just i accompany my friend to AKPK. After he summited all t form. Then ask my friend to go back & wait for t 2nd appointment.

But they ask my friend to pay t restructure payment after 24 hours. Then my friend ask is it mean t restructure plan approved ? they say not yet, will meet again.

Q1) is it that mean t restructure payment approved already ? or after t 1st payment pay only consider approve ?

Q2) Wat if t restructure payment not approved, then t 1st payment how ah ?

Q3) my friend ask after pay t payment, do he need to pay to bank also, since they say not approved yet ?
Then u know wat they say...... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif They say it up to u ?? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


Ps if any 1 know or faces before mind to share ya.....coz now my friend really lost....
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QUOTE(micncwng @ Mar 24 2011, 03:11 PM)
any i try this situatation before. Just i accompany my friend to AKPK. After he summited all t form. Then ask my friend to go back & wait for t 2nd appointment.

But they ask my friend to pay t restructure payment after 24 hours. Then my friend ask is it mean t restructure plan approved ? they say not yet, will meet again.

Q1) is it that mean t restructure payment approved already ? or after t 1st payment pay only consider approve ?

Q2) Wat if t restructure payment not approved, then t 1st payment how ah ?

Q3) my friend ask after pay t payment, do he need to pay to bank also, since they say not approved yet ?
Then u know wat they say...... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif They say it up to u ?? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Ps if any 1 know or faces before mind to share ya.....coz now my friend really lost....
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Hi fellas,

Please let me know how long does it take to get a credit report from BankNegaraMalaysia?

Please give me a guide the step-by-step after attending the 1st compulsary talk (info session). Thanks.
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Hi fellas,

Please let me know how long does it take to get a credit report from BankNegaraMalaysia?

Please give me a guide the step-by-step after attending the 1st compulsary talk (info session).  Thanks.
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CCRIS report only took 5minutes to get printed out (if there is not much people larh..)
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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Mar 12 2011, 03:39 AM)
My dad debt RM150k.

monthly installment need pay RM1800/mth for 10years.

so your salary must be around RM3000 in order to process.

AKPK cannot reduce any interest charged into your account. AKPK can only reduce the installment amount and also prolong the duration with interest around 8-10%

Unless if orang cacat maybe can get 6-7%
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owe that much just declare bankrupt...
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Can I know what is the lowest interest i can get From AKPK? how AKPK will calculate my total debt for CC & PL? Only total amount that i swipe or plus all the late charges and interest?(for cc), and for PL is only the original loan amount i borrowed or the amount that already included the Interest? Coz now i am earning RM2500++ Per month, and total amount owe without including the interest is RM39K, so how much installment should i pay every month for duration of 10years? Is it possible for me to only pay RM400 Per month? i really feel so puzzle...
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It is the first time I was in this topic and I go through every post in these 10 pages. I am sorry but I must voice out my feeling reading all these posts.

It is indeed staggering to see some ppl with only income of 2k++ can have a debt amounting to 50k. I mean, can he/she think for herself, just keep to use cc and get personal loans. And they are youth some more.

Reading all these actually raise my awareness on proper financial management. A big sigh~~~~
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QUOTE(khinfai @ Apr 27 2011, 11:56 PM)
It is the first time I was in this topic and I go through every post in these 10 pages. I am sorry but I must voice out my feeling reading all these posts.

It is indeed staggering to see some ppl with only income of 2k++ can have a debt amounting to 50k. I mean, can he/she think for herself, just keep to use cc and get personal loans. And they are youth some more.

Reading all these actually raise my awareness on proper financial management. A big sigh~~~~
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I have an urgent inquiry to any one who can answer this, maybe someone familiar in the law and legislation field?

I took up a tuition loan and study loan in SG 5-6 years back. Owing to bad financial circumstances, I left SG without completing my studies, now owing the banks RM50,000. 2 banks to be exact. One is a local SG bank, the other OCBC. I have not made any repayments for 2 years now. I am wondering what action can they take against me. Can they take up action against me/sue me now that I am in Malaysia?
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Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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Hi Abc, Perhaps what you could try to do is convert all outstanding card payments to ez payments or something and basically extend the duration of the installment payments/debts.

I would also recommend looking for alternative sources of income that you could create during any left over spare time.
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QUOTE(abc_fortune @ Jun 23 2011, 08:45 PM)
Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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How about sell your house and may be you can get back some $$ to offset part of your credit card debts. Also your monthly repayment of the house will be gone. Rent a room temporary which may only cost you few hunderds. If you rent a room nearby to your job place, then, sell your car also. This will further save you the installment. Take public transport and although is not so convinience, but what to do. If your horse die, you have to resort to walk until u r able to get another hourse again.

If not, you will be dragging your problem and i believe your hole will become even bigger. Your will and determination to settle it will become thinner and thinner. Trust me, i have a friend facing same problem like you and he ding dong here and there. End up, missing liao, which is the worst thing to happen.

If you can get a help from your parents, you can use it to cover all your credit cards outstanding as the interest is killing. At least your parent may not chase you payment every month. Be frank to them and you want to solve your problem. Else, AKPK will be the next step, but i doubt your case they will accept as you only earn 4k per month and some more not stable. They will advise you to sell your house or car too in order to make you eligible. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(abc_fortune @ Jun 23 2011, 08:45 PM)
Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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How about sell your house and may be you can get back some $$ to offset part of your credit card debts. Also your monthly repayment of the house will be gone. Rent a room temporary which may only cost you few hunderds. If you rent a room nearby to your job place, then, sell your car also. This will further save you the installment. Take public transport and although is not so convinience, but what to do. If your horse die, you have to resort to walk until u r able to get another hourse again.

If not, you will be dragging your problem and i believe your hole will become even bigger. Your will and determination to settle it will become thinner and thinner. Trust me, i have a friend facing same problem like you and he ding dong here and there. End up, missing liao, which is the worst thing to happen.

If you can get a help from your parents, you can use it to cover all your credit cards outstanding as the interest is killing. At least your parent may not chase you payment every month. Be frank to them and you want to solve your problem. Else, AKPK will be the next step, but i doubt your case they will accept as you only earn 4k per month and some more not stable. They will advise you to sell your house or car too in order to make you eligible. rclxub.gif

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Hi all,

I went to AKPK yesterday to seek advice on long term financial planning. If you have debt issue, you will first have to attend their 1 hour short-course seminar on debt management before arranging appointment with personal counselling with the senior executive. The seminar will tell what and how the AKPK will help you manage your debt in general.

For my case (one who has no serious debt and seek financial planning), I had to attend 4 hours of POWER! seminar. This seminar is useful for young age (18-30) on how to do a good financial planning, how to avoid bad debt and other economic issues.

For debt management 1hour seminar, it is available everyday except wednesday and saturday while POWER! seminar is only on saturday. All of the staffs are from senior exec from BNM and banks. So, with their experience, they can assist you on how to settle your problem if not critical yet.

Oh ya, all are free.. hahaha..
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QUOTE(abc_fortune @ Jun 23 2011, 08:45 PM)
Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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Your future ruined big time because of this huge debts.

Sell house and car is your last chance provided its enough to repay back the bank and there are extra.

If not prepare to suffer BIG time for the next TEN years.

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before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

i have problem with cc:

hong leong =RM14K
ambank=RM4K
eon bank=RM5K
Aeon credit card=RM5K
RHB =RM6k

Personal Loan
Cimb-RM16K
Aeon=RM3k

car loan
still left 6m to pay
monthly pay=RM410

My salary
RM2700

every month i have to pay

RM2534

left only RM166.00

do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 02:57 PM)
before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

i have problem with cc:

hong leong =RM14K
ambank=RM4K
eon bank=RM5K
Aeon credit card=RM5K
RHB =RM6k

Personal Loan
Cimb-RM16K
Aeon=RM3k

car loan
still left 6m to pay
monthly pay=RM410

My salary
RM2700

every month i have to pay

RM2534

left only RM166.00

do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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what do you mean no jalan at all already? can you get some one to help you for atleast the 6 month? after you finish pay the car then you have extra RM550, try to get part time job to increase income to cover your daily expenses, or try to ask advance salary from your company which you will deduct after you clear off some debt...
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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 10:57 PM)
before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

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do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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Visit AKPK first. Like mentioned countless times they will do consulting first and help you organize your cash flow. If it's needed, they will enroll you and discuss with the banks on your behalf.

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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 10:57 PM)
before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

i have problem with cc:

hong leong =RM14K
ambank=RM4K
eon bank=RM5K
Aeon credit card=RM5K
RHB =RM6k

Personal Loan
Cimb-RM16K
Aeon=RM3k

car loan
still left 6m to pay
monthly pay=RM410

My salary
RM2700

every month i have to pay

RM2534

left only RM166.00

do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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How you accumulate so much debts when you have RM4,500 job? Still not enough money to spend until you have to use future money until so much until taking personal loan???? notworthy.gif

With the way your spending, whether you get RM10,000 job, you also will get into problem. Gambling habit and play woman is it? drool.gif

Your case is very susah lar....if AKPK accepts you and you are paying RM1,000 per month, how are you going to survive??? doh.gif

So, first is to examine yourself how to cut down on your bad habits or spending. Then, get AKPK to help you to restructure your loan. Every month, live like a monk for at least the first few years until you get a better job that pay you much higher $$$. But, got to watch out your spending. AKPK no give second chance. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 1 2011, 03:39 PM)
How you accumulate so much debts when you have RM4,500 job? Still not enough money to spend until you have to use future money until so much until taking personal loan????  notworthy.gif

With the way your spending, whether you get RM10,000 job, you also will get into problem. Gambling habit and play woman is it?  drool.gif

Your case is very susah lar....if AKPK accepts you and you are paying RM1,000 per month, how are you going to survive???   doh.gif

So, first is to examine yourself how to cut down on your bad habits or spending. Then, get AKPK to help you to restructure your loan. Every month, live like a monk for at least the first few years until you get a better job that pay you much higher $$$. But, got to watch out your spending. AKPK no give second chance.
i don't have any habit like gambling and play woman like u say... use my money to pay my mother medical bill,medicine and every month.cause my mother have high blood very serious.so please dont judge me if u do not know my problem...and now when my salary half.....luckily my sister help me to take care of my mother to pay all the medical bil for right now...

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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jul 5 2011, 12:56 PM)
i don't have any habit like gambling and play woman like u say... use my money to pay my mother medical bill,medicine and every month.cause my mother have high blood very serious.so please dont judge me if u do not know my problem...and now when my salary half.....luckily my sister help me to take care of my mother to pay all the medical bil for right now...
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Yup, i had generalize your situation. I sincerely apologize to you if i had made a wrong judgement on you.

I know many young fellas had get into financial trouble and some are in really deep trouble. Whatever reason that they came out, it is not primary important, the most important is how they can structure a way to get out of trouble.

The way AKPK system can only work not more than 25% of the people who had seek help and really want to solve their problem. The rest only look for a way to delay their problem and thus can prolong their debts.

Many people who after get AKPK help, half way fail out. Even one of my friend who work with AKPK staffs review that AKPK can only temporarily help out and they still sees majority will fail half way thru the program.

So, for your case, if you intend to bail yourself out, you must have the determination to do so. It will be a few years program and you really need to tide thru at least for the first 2 years. After restructuring, which means most of your salary is gone into AKPK program and leave very little for you to live on, you only can take care of yourself and you will have no means to help others such as your mother sickness and etc, unless u dig into more loans and debts. Of course, you will be slightly better off if you can get a better job offer so that this will increase your cash position.

The best way you can do is try to seek job overseas and earn as much $$$ as you can thru higher paid overseas job. For a start, you can go to SIngapore, Australia, UK or whichever country that can pay you good money and earning a higher income will help you solve your debts. But you may not have a life over there as all your $$$ earn is mean for clearing debts. Dont expect to live like an expat as the $$$ earn is not for you to spend it. icon_idea.gif

Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 10:57 PM)
before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

i have problem with cc:

hong leong =RM14K
ambank=RM4K
eon bank=RM5K
Aeon credit card=RM5K
RHB =RM6k

Personal Loan
Cimb-RM16K
Aeon=RM3k

Why not just sell your car. That way you lessen your burden. Secondly your car only left 6 months. You should get some money back from the sale. Then can use it to clear your cc first. Slowly work your way out fron there.
car loan
still left 6m to pay
monthly pay=RM410

My salary
RM2700

every month i have to pay

RM2534

left only RM166.00

do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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I don't know if this thread are the right place for me to know the answer. I have a problem with personal loan. Since i can't pay and now I receive the letter from court action. For information, i make a loan with RHB about rm 9000. So what should i do?if i don't attend the court, will i get arrested or what?i'm really scared..plzz help me
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I don't know if this thread are the right place for me to know the answer. I have a problem with personal loan. Since i can't pay and now I receive the letter from court action. For information, i make a loan with RHB about rm 9000. So what should i do?if i don't attend the court, will i get arrested or what?i'm really scared..plzz help me
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Go to see akpk asap.
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QUOTE(chuck_blusher @ Sep 26 2011, 01:12 PM)
I don't know if this thread are the right place for me to know the answer. I have a problem with personal loan. Since i can't pay and now I receive the letter from court action. For information, i make a loan with RHB about rm 9000. So what should i do?if i don't attend the court, will i get arrested or what?i'm really scared..plzz help me
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If you don't attend the court session you can get arrested. Do nego with the bank first. Worse case cannot pay have to declare bankrupt
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Usually those are letter of demand.
I.e. they issue summons and letter of demands to ask you to pay up. In the event you still don't pay, they have the rights to sue you bankrupt if your balance is RM30k and above. Those summons and letter of demands wuld then be presented to court as a prove that they have "tried" to collect and send notices multiple times and still you didn't response.
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if currently i undergoing with AKPK , can i still loan for a new car.coz currently my car giving me alots of problem after an accident.
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if currently i undergoing with AKPK , can i still loan for a new car.coz currently my car giving me alots of problem after an accident.
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Just wanted to get more info on AKPK.
1. I was inform by a friend once you have completed the DMP program, the banks will take 2 years to clear your name from CCRIS/CTOS. Is this true?
2. Does this mean during that 2 years if suddenly you get a salary increase (really positive cashflow) you will not be able to buy a house or a car?
3. How long does it take once you register the 45 mins briefing before the councillor will see you with your case? How long does it take before AKPK send letters to the banks to inform that you are under DMP program?

Hope to get some info from all. Thanks.
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Pay minimum alll the bill, so you didnt get penality for not pay the bill, do some small business outside they what ever you skill it is or do you extra work they are plenty work out there, beside keep apply for other job so you can earn better.
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Pay minimum alll the bill, so you didnt get penality for not pay the bill, do some small business outside they what ever you skill it is or do you extra work they are plenty work out there, beside keep apply for other job so you can earn better.
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I second your opinion. Actually if you had a deep trouble in debt. There are only one way which is find more money. Im newly married, for now I got 5 credit card and two personal loan (how much? i will not tell you because if you know you will be faint) . Im an Engineer in KL earn around RM3500. Of course can't cover that debt. So every week I will go to Golf Club to be a caddie. From that money you used to recover back all the credit card debt. Just do that within a half year then you will see the improvement. But I warning you about to be a caddie. You must assume that somebody already put a Tag (Lembu) at your forehead.
If you are work as a profesional you will really annoying to this job. But for your future better sacrifice your ego.

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Yeah man, its very hard to digest but that is the harsh reality. We can take it as a lesson learnt. The loopholes in Malaysia's financial system did contributed to this scenarios obviously
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A question, AKPK will only help loans taken from approved financial institutions. Does AEON credit falls under approved financial institution as well?
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QUOTE(fly3930 @ Oct 18 2011, 10:54 AM)
I second your opinion. Actually if you had a deep trouble in debt. There are only one way which is find more money. Im newly married, for now I got 5 credit card and two personal loan (how much? i will not tell you because if you know you will be faint) . Im an Engineer in KL earn around RM3500. Of course can't cover that debt. So every week I will go to Golf Club to be a caddie. From that money you used to recover back all the credit card debt. Just do that within a half year then you will see the improvement. But I warning you about to be a caddie. You must assume that somebody already put a Tag (Lembu) at your forehead.
If you are work as a profesional you will really annoying to this job. But for your future better sacrifice your ego.
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salute to u bro..how come across your mind to work part time as caddie? How much u earn per day?
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A question, AKPK will only help loans taken from approved financial institutions. Does AEON credit falls under approved financial institution as well?
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It is better to check with akpk directly
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Hi all ...i have a super big finance problem right now....

Credit Card

HSBC = -20K
UOB = -15K
SCB = -43K
MBB = -15K

Total = -93k


Personal Loan

HLB = -8K
UOB= -15K
Alliance = -40k
OCBC = -40k
HSBC = -10k
EON = -45k
RHB = -56k

Total =-215k

Before im the director of Handphone shop...
so my income around 16k per month....
but i go genting play casino lose all my money....and shop already close...now im just start work with my cousin as supervisor @ 1month Rm3200 basic...

Bank Loan i have to pay around 10k everymonth....

i have no cash to pay for loan and credit card for 1~2 month...
so may i know AKPK will help me ?

now i only need pay for
Car = RM 800
Insurance = RM600
Family = RM 500
House Loan = RM 500 ( share with my brother )
So balance i only have RM800 extra per month...

anyone can give me advise ?
i really feel i have no jalan d....because i got hutang ah long 10k somemore....
should i go AKPK ? or try talk to bank ?
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You should go to AKPK.
Banks usually wouldn't barge in negotiating to reduce the installment by a lot.
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QUOTE(dunhill88 @ Nov 3 2011, 09:28 PM)
Hi all ...i have a super big finance problem right now....

Credit Card

HSBC = -20K
UOB = -15K
SCB = -43K
MBB = -15K

Total = -93k
Personal Loan

HLB = -8K
UOB= -15K
Alliance = -40k
OCBC = -40k
HSBC = -10k
EON = -45k
RHB = -56k

Total =-215k

Before im the director of Handphone shop...
so my income around 16k per month....
but i go genting play casino lose all my money....and shop already close...now im just start work with my cousin as supervisor @ 1month Rm3200 basic...

Bank Loan i have to pay around 10k everymonth....

i have no cash to pay for loan and credit card for 1~2 month...
so may i know AKPK will help me ?

now i only need pay for
Car = RM 800
Insurance = RM600
Family = RM 500
House Loan = RM 500  ( share with my brother )
So balance i only have RM800 extra per month...

anyone can give me advise ?
i really feel i have no jalan d....because i got hutang ah long 10k somemore....
should i go AKPK ? or try talk to bank ?
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Akpk will not be able to help in your case stated above. Better ask your family members to pool money for you to pay off your debts especially the ah long one. Else, either you "run road" or "bankrupcy" is the option left provided you settle the ah long's loan.

if you visit akpk, they will ask you to sell your house and sell your car, but looking at your debts, that's not enough as you only have a 3,200 income.


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salute to u bro..how come across your mind to work part time as caddie? How much u earn per day?
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Some female caddies can really earn "money" provided they know how to seduce the rich golfers....

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Some of the very basic rule of living within means:


When you are desperate, don't do take desperate measure or digging a bigger hole to cover a smaller hole to begin with...

I like how some old saying,..." dont start another fire while you putting out one..."

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tiger, ur case does look serious. what akpk does is to nego v da various FIs on ur outstanding balance n reduce it to smaller amount so tat u cud repay ur monthly instalment for a looooong period. u now owe more than $200k n i donno how akpk cud help to reduce da monthly repayment to say $50 per FI. well u can always try talking to them n i believe they will try their best to help.
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Nov 9 2011, 11:04 PM)
tiger, ur case does look serious. what akpk does is to nego v da various FIs on ur outstanding balance n reduce it to smaller amount so tat u cud repay ur monthly instalment for a looooong period. u now owe more than $200k n i donno how akpk cud help to reduce da monthly repayment to say $50 per FI. well u can always try talking to them n i believe they will try their best to help.
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Haha....it is not me lar...the problem is with Dunhill lar...

But seriously speaking, akpk in this case will not be able to help and they will reject the case as the applicants income is not enough to do the minimal repayment to all the financial institution plus the more urgent one is to clear the ah long's debt. Else, forever he indebted to the ah long and may be need to borrow more to pay off this one....


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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 10 2011, 01:24 PM)
Haha....it is not me lar...the problem is with Dunhill lar...

But seriously speaking, akpk in this case will not be able to help and they will reject the case as the applicants income is not enough to do the minimal repayment to all the financial institution plus the more urgent one is to clear the ah long's debt. Else, forever he indebted to the ah long and may be need to borrow more to pay off this one....
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well yea looking at his situation it definitely doesn't look good but no harm trying as i don't see any other way he could get it resolved (apart from borrowing money from family or friends).
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Start selling asset will be first to start with, even before going to akpk
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QUOTE(dunhill88 @ Nov 3 2011, 09:28 PM)
Hi all ...i have a super big finance problem right now....

Credit Card

HSBC = -20K
UOB = -15K
SCB = -43K
MBB = -15K

Total = -93k
Personal Loan

HLB = -8K
UOB= -15K
Alliance = -40k
OCBC = -40k
HSBC = -10k
EON = -45k
RHB = -56k

Total =-215k

Before im the director of Handphone shop...
so my income around 16k per month....
but i go genting play casino lose all my money....and shop already close...now im just start work with my cousin as supervisor @ 1month Rm3200 basic...

Bank Loan i have to pay around 10k everymonth....

i have no cash to pay for loan and credit card for 1~2 month...
so may i know AKPK will help me ?

now i only need pay for
Car = RM 800
Insurance = RM600
Family = RM 500
House Loan = RM 500  ( share with my brother )
So balance i only have RM800 extra per month...

anyone can give me advise ?
i really feel i have no jalan d....because i got hutang ah long 10k somemore....
should i go AKPK ? or try talk to bank ?
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bankruptcy is the only option.
settle the ah long 10k first....
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i have income around 3K and my CC debt is 15K. Shud i proceed with Debt Management Program with AKPK? I am going to attend POWER seminar on December. I wonder if they provide free counseling on that day.

Expert. Any idea?
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hi guys,
i have income around 3K and my CC debt is 15K. Shud i proceed with Debt Management Program  with AKPK? I am going to attend POWER seminar on December. I wonder if they provide free counseling on that day.

Expert. Any idea?
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Why?
5% of RM15k is a monthly repayment of RM750 per month.
If you are discipline enough not to spend further on your card, and pay the monthly min pay of 5% or more, eg RM1k per month; why do you need to approach AKPK?

Unless you're saying there's other expenses that comes in besides that which makes your monthly expenditure more than what you earned.
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QUOTE(megat_johan @ Nov 18 2011, 10:42 AM)
hi guys,
i have income around 3K and my CC debt is 15K. Shud i proceed with Debt Management Program  with AKPK? I am going to attend POWER seminar on December. I wonder if they provide free counseling on that day.

Expert. Any idea?
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don't approach akpk until it's the last resort. once you're in the program there are many things that will be affected especially your credit rating and subsequently difficulty to apply for loan WHEN YOU REALLY NEED IT. can try to restructure your debt with the respective FI into term loan or something that is lower in interest. after that cancel/cut off all your CC and be discipline in repaying your debt.
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Is not advisable to get akpk help unless very necessary. Suggest you cut your cc now and make arrangement with bank to have monthly payment to clear it out.
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hey thanks guys for the advise. i already cut my CC (physically) 3 months agp. it just i think i can't control my debt. Am paying a lot every month around 700. But after i ask few forumers here, it is better for me to be more discipline on my money management rather than enroll in DMP.

Am not sure where i read this, but they said, u need to have confident with your money.

Maybe all i need now is confident and group support (if exist)

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trust us. it's good that you've already cut all your CC and repaying RM700 a month to settle your debt is manageable. i've been through the DMP myself few years back and if given a chance i would not do it. now that i've settled all my debt and is back to healthy level again! smile.gif
just be discipline, not much choice you have but to sacrifice all the good things for temporary until you're debt-free.

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Nov 21 2011, 05:31 PM)
trust us. it's good that you've already cut all your CC and repaying RM700 a month to settle your debt is manageable. i've been through the DMP myself few years back and if given a chance i would not do it. now that i've settled all my debt and is back to healthy level again! smile.gif
just be discipline, not much choice you have but to sacrifice all the good things for temporary until you're debt-free.
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congratz! i cant wait to be 'healthy' again. Wish me luck then. I'll try to keep update on the progress so perhaps, others can take a lesson from it.


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A question, AKPK will only help loans taken from approved financial institutions. Does AEON credit falls under approved financial institution as well?
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Yes, Aeon falls under it. Im currently in AKPK program. I've paid all my AEON credit debt a month ago. Now left with 2 cc debt. A bit of advise to all planning to enroll in AKPK, get all the things that you want first ie house loan, car loan, investment loan, (ASB etc), before enrolling or else its very hard for you in future. And after joining AKPK, make sure to pay the repayment at least a month in advance coz they are strict. One you miss the payment dateline than thats it.. No turning back. AKPK helped me a lot. Used to put aside rm1500 a month just to pay credit card/personal loan debt.. now just pay rm300.
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congratz! i cant wait to be 'healthy' again. Wish me luck then. I'll try to keep update on the progress so perhaps, others can take a lesson from it.
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sure you can do it as long as you don't further spend on some unnecessary things or gadget.. i have been gone thru that stage without any saving to just repay all the cc debt at around >RM25k in just a year.. now i'm free from cc debt and my saving is growing smile.gif
all you have to do is just that what other mentioned, forget all the luxury things or gadgets until you clear off all your cc debt 1st...
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QUOTE(edwinlcw @ Nov 24 2011, 10:49 AM)
sure you can do it as long as you don't further spend on some unnecessary things or gadget.. i have been gone thru that stage without any saving to just repay all the cc debt at around >RM25k in just a year.. now i'm free from cc debt and my saving is growing  smile.gif
all you have to do is just that what other mentioned, forget all the luxury things or gadgets until you clear off all your cc debt 1st...
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25k in a just a year!! whooo that's awesome. i'll keep that in mind.
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25k in a just a year!! whooo that's awesome. i'll keep that in mind.
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yes.. i just use all the money that i left from my salary after deduct other expenses to repay it.. thru out the year, i got 0 saving...
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is there a way that AKPK can allowed us used our EPF money to pay off all our debt? Anybody can clarify and answer this?
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No. This is not possible
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yes.. i just use all the money that i left from my salary after deduct other expenses to repay it.. thru out the year, i got 0 saving...
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i got about 10K cc debt. Been thinking to do the same things start this month salary. Already do planning in excel. Should be clear in April i hope so.
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is there a way that AKPK can allowed us used our EPF money to pay off all our debt? Anybody can clarify and answer this?
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hi guys, im looking for this reply too, anyone know the answer... ?

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hi guys, im looking for this reply too, anyone know the answer... ?
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i got about 10K cc debt. Been thinking to do the same things start this month salary. Already do planning in excel. Should be clear in April i hope so.
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As long as you don't spend on all those unnecessary stuffs... sure you can do.. just suffer for few months.. then you can start again with a new life... smile.gif
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hi guys, im looking for this reply too, anyone know the answer... ?
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Hi, i've forfeited on paying my credit card for almost a year now. Surely the bank will send letter ask me to go to court but I've never received it since the address I used was the house that I rented two years ago.

Am I still applicable to receive help from them? For all I know, I haven't been 'served' by the bank yet (where they have to deliver letter asking me to go to court)
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If u have a house, u can use EPF money to pay for the house monthly payments. The money saved from house payments can be channeled to other loans.
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jan 5 2012, 05:02 PM)
Hi, i've forfeited on paying my credit card for almost a year now. Surely the bank will send letter ask me to go to court but I've never received it since the address I used was the house that I rented two years ago.

Am I still applicable to receive help from them? For all I know, I haven't been 'served' by the bank yet (where they have to deliver letter asking me to go to court)
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When you go them, they will advice you to start everything that need to pay with proper restructuring. It all depend on your case as well. As long as you have income to cover your debt, for sure they will help
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it's because they say that they will not entertain those whose bankcrupt or have court case pending. that is what i'm wondering...

so what is the smartest way to do this? go straight to their office? or call the helpline first?
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Is always good to call first. Of course if there is already court case, then they cant help. For cc, this depend on the amount you owe. If is really a lot then mostly is legal case. It is a court case also if you did not receive the letter from the lawyer office
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jan 5 2012, 05:02 PM)
Hi, i've forfeited on paying my credit card for almost a year now. Surely the bank will send letter ask me to go to court but I've never received it since the address I used was the house that I rented two years ago.

Am I still applicable to receive help from them? For all I know, I haven't been 'served' by the bank yet (where they have to deliver letter asking me to go to court)
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Wah, just ignore ah? Wait until you receive the statement and see how much hutang have you pile up.
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just receive 1 release letter from ambank...my ambank cc full amount was 10k...but since want to pay lump sum...they reduce it and just need to pay 5k....no question ask i paid 5k....but now still have 4 cc + 1 personal loan to go....need to start back saving and close at least 1-2 cc this year....thanks akpk....now i can restructure my life...
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Dear all bros,

(under DMP programme)

1) What is the longest period can AKPK give us for minimal repayment?

2) Can we pay lumsum to AKPK once we have the sufficient money? Can they calculate the interest again, if we pay lumsum, can pay lower amount?

3) How long will the senior consultant attend if you go for the briefing? I heard it is 1~2 months?

4) Anything you can share about AKPK.

Thanks in advance.
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Seem like AKPK is extend arm of Bank to get new business.

Here how it works

1. You must be eligible for them to help
2. You must owe big sum
3. You will be a new customer (paying high interest) for another bank (or the same bank)

Well, the good thing is
1. At least you feel better
2. At least you have a plan for way out
3. At least they allow you to merge/consolidate and pay over next 10 years or so.
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QUOTE(AskChong @ Feb 7 2012, 02:07 PM)
Seem like AKPK is extend arm of Bank to get new business.

Here how it works

1. You must be eligible for them to help
2. You must owe big sum
3. You will be a new customer (paying high interest) for another bank (or the same bank)

Well, the good thing is
1. At least you feel better
2. At least you have a plan for way out
3. At least they allow you to merge/consolidate and pay over next 10 years or so.
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QUOTE(AskChong @ Feb 7 2012, 02:07 PM)
Seem like AKPK is extend arm of Bank to get new business.

Here how it works

1. You must be eligible for them to help
2. You must owe big sum
3. You will be a new customer (paying high interest) for another bank (or the same bank)

Well, the good thing is
1. At least you feel better
2. At least you have a plan for way out
3. At least they allow you to merge/consolidate and pay over next 10 years or so.
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Bro AskChong, thanks for the clarification. Seems like I fitted all into the criterias, but are you familiar with them?

I mean do you know the answers as my questions stated above?

Thanks in advance.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:11 pm
QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 7 2012, 02:10 PM)
You seriously have no idea what is AKPK but sprout nonsence here, are you?!
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Well...no comment on this, but bro b00n, any idea on my doubts? Glad if anyone can help.

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QUOTE(ConnedLilFella @ Feb 6 2012, 01:27 PM)
Dear all bros,

(under DMP programme)

1) What is the longest period can AKPK give us for minimal repayment?

2) Can we pay lumsum to AKPK once we have the sufficient money? Can they calculate the interest again, if we pay lumsum, can pay lower amount?

3) How long will the senior consultant attend if you go for the briefing? I heard it is 1~2 months?

4) Anything you can share about AKPK.

Thanks in advance.
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1) depends on your affordability.

2) you either pay lump sum to settle. Don't think they let you pay lump sum now and then and helpmyou negotiate with the banks another time now and then.

4) go read AKPK website.


Usually AKPK will negotiate to pardon off fees and interest substaintially. Thus a big chunk of profit the bank is supposed to earn is being cut off. Besides getting fees and interests waived, principal repayment will be dragged for quite a long term. So the bank doesnt really advise customer to go to AKPK if they can help resolve. If they do, that means you are really in deepshit where the bank's policy doesn't even allow them to "help" you.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 7 2012, 02:10 PM)
You seriously have no idea what is AKPK but sprout nonsence here, are you?!
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I know AKPK is under BNM aims to help those in financial problem.

I share my point of view (everything has two sides, right?).

Which one is factually not right? I am here to learn.

Thank you in advance for your clarification.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(ConnedLilFella @ Feb 7 2012, 02:10 PM)
Bro AskChong, thanks for the clarification. Seems like I fitted all into the criterias, but are you familiar with them?

I mean do you know the answers as my questions stated above?

Thanks in advance.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:11 pm

Well...no comment on this, but bro b00n, any idea on my doubts? Glad if anyone can help.
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I hope my comments didn't confuse you.

If you need help, AKPK can provides you a solution, good for you.

I didn't mean they are no good for you.

I have not seek help from them.

I have no direct or indirect communication with them before.

Hope I hv clarify my position.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:50 pm
QUOTE(dunhill88 @ Nov 3 2011, 09:28 PM)
Hi all ...i have a super big finance problem right now....

Credit Card

HSBC = -20K
UOB = -15K
SCB = -43K
MBB = -15K

Total = -93k
Personal Loan

HLB = -8K
UOB= -15K
Alliance = -40k
OCBC = -40k
HSBC = -10k
EON = -45k
RHB = -56k

Total =-215k

Before im the director of Handphone shop...
so my income around 16k per month....
but i go genting play casino lose all my money....and shop already close...now im just start work with my cousin as supervisor @ 1month Rm3200 basic...

Bank Loan i have to pay around 10k everymonth....

i have no cash to pay for loan and credit card for 1~2 month...
so may i know AKPK will help me ?

now i only need pay for
Car = RM 800
Insurance = RM600
Family = RM 500
House Loan = RM 500  ( share with my brother )
So balance i only have RM800 extra per month...

anyone can give me advise ?
i really feel i have no jalan d....because i got hutang ah long 10k somemore....
should i go AKPK ? or try talk to bank ?
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Look like you need to pay AKPK a visit.
Hope you meet AKPK criterias.



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QUOTE(ConnedLilFella @ Feb 6 2012, 01:27 PM)
Dear all bros,

(under DMP programme)

1) What is the longest period can AKPK give us for minimal repayment? Normally, they will stretch to 8 years and above, many be up to 15 years. But, they will decide after meeting with all the banks and the best period to clear off your debts
2) Can we pay lumsum to AKPK once we have the sufficient money? Can they calculate the interest again, if we pay lumsum, can pay lower amount? You not paying the lumpsump to Akpk, but you are paying monthly installment to AKPK and AKPK in return, distribute your installment payment to respective banks. Once you have accumulate enough money to any one of the bank, you can approach the bank and tell them to give you the final out-standing, after paying off, get a discharge letter and present this to AKPK and you will pay less installment for the next month.
3) How long will the senior consultant attend if you go for the briefing? I heard it is 1~2 months? Set an appointment and meet you. Present to them all your troubles and document. They will review your case if you still can be helped or not. If can, they will accept your case. Then, the process will take 2-3 months to nego with the bank to reduce the interest and convert all debts into a term loan.
4) Anything you can share about AKPK. Anything you want to know about AKPK, you can go to their website or visit their office and speak to the consultants there.
Thanks in advance.
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AKPK don't meet up with the bank. They will send the bank a letter of enquiry about the customer's balance broken down into principal, interest and fees as well as any legal actions taken.
Then after consolidating all the information fom all the banks the customer is with, then they will calculate the afordability to pay by looking into the pay, monthly fix expenses etc to see how far the tenor for each repayment needed to be streched.

AKPK will even go drastic by asking customer to offload their assets for instance vehicles after accessing the affordability of the customer. But then that's advise, not compulsory.

After AKPK worked out the repayment schedule, they will send it to the respective banks. Althought it's "presumed" tht bank has the right to reject the "proposal", but behold, banks are likely to accept because in a way, they can't refuse.

Thus like I say, banks don't prefer customer going to AKPK because like I mentioned in my previous posts. Unless they really also cannot help.

Again on 1 lump sum payment, again the bank will advise customer to go back to AKPK. Because once a customer is enrolled with AKPK, banks will deal with it carefully. Upon 2 non continuous payment to AKPK, AKPK will officially "terminate" the AKPK status and the banks will continue to pursue their normal collection and legal actions. If customer is willing to pay 1 lump sum payment, AKPK will issue a "discharge". There are also cases whereby because customer no longer want to be enrolled with AKPK because it reflectes in ccris, thus they will also ask AKPK to discharge them provided AKPK had done their verification. Hardly any such cases heard yet.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 7 2012, 09:37 PM)
AKPK don't meet up with the bank. They will send the bank a letter of enquiry about the customer's balance broken down into principal, interest and fees as well as any legal actions taken.
Then after consolidating all the information fom all the banks the customer is with, then they will calculate the afordability to pay by looking into the pay, monthly fix expenses etc to see how far the tenor for each repayment needed to be streched.

AKPK will even go drastic by asking customer to offload their assets for instance vehicles after accessing the affordability of the customer. But then that's advise, not compulsory.

After AKPK worked out the repayment schedule, they will send it to the respective banks. Althought it's "presumed" tht bank has the right to reject the "proposal", but behold, banks are likely to accept because in a way, they can't refuse.

Thus like I say, banks don't prefer customer going to AKPK because like I mentioned in my previous posts. Unless they really also cannot help.

Again on 1 lump sum payment, again the bank will advise customer to go back to AKPK. Because once a customer is enrolled with AKPK, banks will deal with it carefully. Upon 2 non continuous payment to AKPK, AKPK will officially "terminate" the AKPK status and the banks will continue to pursue their normal collection and legal actions. If customer is willing to pay 1 lump sum payment, AKPK will issue a "discharge". There are also cases whereby because customer no longer want to be enrolled with AKPK because it reflectes in ccris, thus they will also ask AKPK to discharge them provided AKPK had done their verification. Hardly any such cases heard yet.
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There are some errors in your post. When you made one lump sump payment, you will go direct to bank and not AKPK. If you deposit extra money into AKPK account, it took forever to them to refund you the amount. So, if you dump the lump sump amount to AKPK, it will most probably stuck in the account. You probably need to speak with the accounts department to transfer your lump sump from AKPK to the bank, but it may take many processes. But if you go to bank direct, just pay off and get a discharge letter, which is faster and more efficient? However, if i am not wrong, AKPK will ask you to go direct to deal with the bank direct for one lump sump payment instead.

If one is unable to make payment, the next choice is going thru AKPK and the bank still can recover the money. Else, you sue them bankrupt also cannot recover the money.

About the offload of assets, it is compulsory in certain sense. first the evaluate your income and versus your expenditure. If your expenditure is more than the income, then, they will ask you to cut down on certain expenditure such as car or house installment. If you not doing so or have no alternative to get extra income to cover that expenditure, AKPK will say sorry to you that they cant help you. YOu continue with your own way of settling your own debts. So, it sounds like not compulsory but it is the only way to do so.

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 09:31 AM)
There are some errors in your post. When you made one lump sump payment, you will go direct to bank and not AKPK. If you deposit extra money into AKPK account, it took forever to them to refund you the amount. So, if you dump the lump sump amount to AKPK, it will most probably stuck in the account. You probably need to speak with the accounts department to transfer your lump sump from AKPK to the bank, but it may take many processes. But if you go to bank direct, just pay off and get a discharge letter, which is faster and more efficient? However, if i am not wrong, AKPK will ask you to go direct to deal with the bank direct for one lump sump payment instead.
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You misinterpreted. The bank will always ask the customer to approach AKPK in making lump sum payment. Then AKPK will officially inform the bank and discharge the customer from AKPK after evaluating customer financial condition. Customer then remit the lump sum payment direct to the bank instead of the normal payment towards AKPK.
QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 09:31 AM)
If one is unable to make payment, the next choice is going thru AKPK and the bank still can recover the money. Else, you sue them bankrupt also cannot recover the money.
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Again like I mentioned countless times, if the bank can restructure the loan themselves they will not prefer customers approaching AKPK. However if their internal policy does not allow them to do so like mentioned; then they will advise customers to go to AKPK. But first approach the bank will not advise customer going to AKPK because 1st it hampers their collection of in-terms of profit as well as tenure.
Bank's collection action will only stop upon the 1st inquiry from AKPK regarding the said customer's loan.
QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 09:31 AM)
About the offload of assets, it is compulsory in certain sense. first the evaluate your income and versus your expenditure. If your expenditure is more than the income, then, they will ask you to cut down on certain expenditure such as car or house installment. If you not doing so or have no alternative to get extra income to cover that expenditure, AKPK will say sorry to you that they cant help you. YOu continue with your own way of settling your own debts. So, it sounds like not compulsory but it is the only way to do so.
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If a car is necessary for one to travel to work, they will not ask to offload. They will advise to sell and get a cheaper car. Hope you do not misunderstand my statement. Thus it's not compulsory. Certain cases, yes i.e. if the guys has 2 merc, AKPK will ask him to sell off one if necessary.
QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 09:31 AM)
Hope you are clear and not give half-cooked info.  icon_idea.gif
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Do not misinterpret what I wrote.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 8 2012, 11:48 AM)
You misinterpreted. The bank will always ask the customer to approach AKPK in making lump sum payment. Then AKPK will officially inform the bank and discharge the customer from AKPK after evaluating customer financial condition. Customer then remit the lump sum payment direct to the bank instead of the normal payment towards AKPK.
Again like I mentioned countless times, if the bank can restructure the loan themselves they will not prefer customers approaching AKPK. However if their internal policy does not allow them to do so like mentioned; then they will advise customers to go to AKPK. But first approach the bank will not advise customer going to AKPK because 1st it hampers their collection of in-terms of profit as well as tenure.
Bank's collection action will only stop upon the 1st inquiry from AKPK regarding the said customer's loan.
If a car is necessary for one to travel to work, they will not ask to offload. They will advise to sell and get a cheaper car. Hope you do not misunderstand my statement. Thus it's not compulsory. Certain cases, yes i.e. if the guys has 2 merc, AKPK will ask him to sell off one if necessary.
Do not misinterpret what I wrote.
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Have you gone through AKPK process or speak from hear say or friend's say?

The bank will not ask the customer to go see AKPK making lump sump payment. You can direct make lump sump payment when you have the money.

If the car is necessary to travel for work, thus you cannot offload, you have to find another alternative in order to reduce your monthly commitment for expenditures. Else, AKPK cannot help to restructure your debts as you have not enough money to pay even the minimum amount of monthly installment set out, thus, it will be a failure and AKPK will reject your application. Thus, you will back to squarre one.

As for the bank, when the AKPK made an equiry to them, i not sure whether they will stop the collection or not, but one thing for sure the original high interest will still be the same before you officially signed the offer letter for a reduced-restructured AKPK loan.
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I have experience make a lump sum payment...and I made the deal directly to the bank...not AKPK....

The best thing is when make lump sump payment, you can haggling with bank officer, my CC with interest is RM 10k...but i beg the credit officer since I only have RM5k cash in hand and I want to make full-payment. So the bank officer will bring my case to their management, within 1 week bank called me and confirm that I can make settlement only for RM 5k within 1 month.

So I made the payment, and call back the bank officer to confirm. Once they confirm they have received my payment, they sent me a release letter, another 1 week, I received a release letter from bank mentioning they will clear my name in Bank Negara within 3 weeks.

With this release letter, I faxed it to my AKPK Counselor for record and they will reduce my DMP payment.

Now I only have like 4 CC and 1 personal loan to go. Will continue to save and settle more this year..


p/s: this experience is with AMBANK.


Added on February 8, 2012, 1:15 pmAnswers are in red.


QUOTE(ConnedLilFella @ Feb 6 2012, 01:27 PM)
Dear all bros,

(under DMP programme)

1) What is the longest period can AKPK give us for minimal repayment?
10 Years

2) Can we pay lumsum to AKPK once we have the sufficient money? Can they calculate the interest again, if we pay lumsum, can pay lower amount?
Lump sum deal is directly with Bank. You can beg the Credit Officers to give discount. It works with me. But make sure you have cash to pay lump sum and dont suka suka make a deal without any payment.

3) How long will the senior consultant attend if you go for the briefing? I heard it is 1~2 months?
My last attending with consultant is like 2010, and I just wait for 1 week. Remember please make time for the appointment. If you use out of office time, then it will take 1-2 month. So plan it wise, like me, I just take Annual Leaves just to make the appointment.

4) Anything you can share about AKPK.
So far, I have no bad experience with AKPK, now im already in my 3rd year, frankly speaking, it improve my cash flow management and give a lot of relief. Slowly, you need to save money to make lump sum payment

At beginning i have 6 cc and 1 personal loan. Now, reduce it to 4 cc and 1 personal loan.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
Have you gone through AKPK process or speak from hear say or friend's say?

The bank will not ask the customer to go see AKPK making lump sump payment. You can direct make lump sump payment when you have the money.

If the car is necessary to travel for work, thus you cannot offload, you have to find another alternative in order to reduce your monthly commitment for expenditures. Else, AKPK cannot help to restructure your debts as you have not enough money to pay even the minimum amount of monthly installment set out, thus, it will be a failure and AKPK will reject your application. Thus, you will back to squarre one.

As for the bank, when the AKPK made an equiry to them, i not sure whether they will stop the collection or not, but one thing for sure the original high interest will still be the same before you officially signed the offer letter for a reduced-restructured AKPK loan.
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My feedback is from internal banks collection process as well as their experience with AKPK customers. Thus it's from the bank's perspective. Which bank it is am not going to disclose.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 8 2012, 01:51 PM)
My feedback is from internal banks collection process as well as their experience with AKPK customers. Thus it's from the bank's perspective. Which bank it is am not going to disclose.
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Then, you are coming from a hear say....my comment come from a personal experience who had gone thru the whole process -being rejected once, then, appealed, then, enrolled in the program, then, make monthly payment, then, make few times lump sump payment, then at the end, discharge from AKPK....and now back to normal - owning credit cards, getting bank loans again.....

So, who is more accurate. hmm.gif

Tell you, some banks are really dumb....when you dealing with them as most of them are young executives and dont know much more and always ask you to wait, want to refer to the boss....i have fecked them few times for dont know this, dont know that and the boss reluctant to come out......and the banks have such problem is Citibank, HSBC and SCB. They have made some blunders that when i threaten them to report to Bank Negara, only they become more serious and once i report the incident to Bank NEgara, and the BN officer also feel doh.gif and after complaining, miracle happen....all things settle very very fast, the bank officer even called me and explain that things have been done and it is not their fault actually, it is system's fault and bla bla bla..... rclxub.gif
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yes true....from my experience with HSBC you cannot get discount for lump sum at all....what number left on the screen is ultimate what you need to pay....
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Few years back my cousin owed few credit cards total of RM50k++ and I'd borrowed him RM20k and the rest of the amount he said he already applied for the AKPK. Recently a friend helped me to check my cousin name whether is in the AKPK list from bank system, but can't find any. So is there anyway that I can confirm my cousin name whether is in the AKPK or not.

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Guys,

I just went back from AKPK briefing, and yeah seems it will helps me. The officer also very friendly answering all those questions..

Now, I am checking my CCRIS report and ready to fill up the form... and here I need your advise, guys...


I have 2 CC, 2 Personal Loans, 1 Car Loan... I know I need to get latest financial statement from the banks for my CC and personal loan, but do I need to bring the statement for my car too?

It says in the form, point #3 :

Penyata Pinjaman Terkini semua jenis pinjaman
(Latest loan statements for all facilities)

so, do I need to bring all loan statements under CCRIS report, or just bring documents that needs help from AKPK? based from my understanding, AKPK do not restructure car loan, unless the car waiting to be lelong... I have good payment track for my car (if not later kena tarik how to go to work?)..

Please guys, need your advise, especially AKPK guys (if any, I read there are comments saying he is from AKPK) and those who already had experience...

thanks!!!


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QUOTE(bloodsucker @ Feb 23 2012, 11:04 AM)
Few years back my cousin owed few credit cards total of RM50k++ and I'd borrowed him RM20k and the rest of the amount he said he already applied for the AKPK. Recently a friend helped me to check my cousin name whether is in the AKPK list from bank system, but can't find any. So is there anyway that I can confirm my cousin name whether is in the AKPK or not.
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I'm curious how your friend manage to check the AKPK status from the bank.
Does your friend B work in a bank where your AKPK friend A has loan facility with?

QUOTE(zul_n @ Feb 23 2012, 08:49 PM)
Guys,

I just went back from AKPK briefing, and yeah seems it will helps me. The officer also very friendly answering all those questions..

Now, I am checking my CCRIS report and ready to fill up the form... and here I need your advise, guys...
I have 2 CC, 2 Personal Loans, 1 Car Loan... I know I need to get latest financial statement from the banks for my CC and personal loan, but do I need to bring the statement for my car too?

It says in the form, point #3 :

Penyata Pinjaman Terkini semua jenis pinjaman
(Latest loan statements for all facilities)

so, do I need to bring all loan statements under CCRIS report, or just bring documents that needs help from AKPK? based from my understanding, AKPK do not restructure car loan, unless the car waiting to be lelong... I have good payment track for my car (if not later kena tarik how to go to work?)..

Please guys, need your advise, especially AKPK guys (if any, I read there are comments saying he is from AKPK) and those who already had experience...

thanks!!!
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From my understanding, something with collateral usually they will not touch unless it's really necessary.
Anyway, I thought AKPK will get the details of the balances direct from the bank?... They request customer to go print out own statement?

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yes true....from my experience with HSBC you cannot get discount for lump sum at all....what number left on the screen is ultimate what you need to pay....
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How about Hong Leong Bank? Anybody know if they will give discount upon full settlement on credit card debts ?
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How about Hong Leong Bank? Anybody know if they will give discount upon full settlement on credit card debts ?
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Why not call the bank to ask about it
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How about Hong Leong Bank? Anybody know if they will give discount upon full settlement on credit card debts ?
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Hong leong? Ha ha ha ! Good luck lah, they are the worst loan sharks out there....
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Hi All,

i have several question to ask after DMP submission.

1)if enrol AKPK, cc will be cancelled however, are we still need to pay government tax or cc annual fee?
2)is corporate card will be cancelled as well, eg Amex?
3)can we get sup-card from spouse?

Hope to help answer.

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QUOTE(kwtan123 @ Mar 14 2012, 04:29 PM)
Hi All,

i have several question to ask after DMP submission.

1)if enrol AKPK, cc will be cancelled however, are we still need to pay government tax or cc annual fee?
2)is corporate card will be cancelled as well, eg Amex?
3)can we get sup-card from spouse?

Hope to help answer.
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1) Once your CC is canceled, then the bank has no right to go after "new" government tax and annual fee. However the previous charged government tax or annual fee before cancellation if there's any is already built into your balance thus you need to pay.

2) Define corporate card. If it's a card issued by your company towards you under your name and the bill if borne by the said company, I don't think it will be canceled.

3) Usually for supp card application, the banks only access the primary card's holder credit history because ultimately the primary card holder is the one liable. But I can't confirm all banks or which bank does not evaluate supp card application's credit history.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Mar 15 2012, 07:40 AM)
1) Once your CC is canceled, then the bank has no right to go after "new" government tax and annual fee. However the previous charged government tax or annual fee before cancellation if there's any is already built into your balance thus you need to pay.

2) Define corporate card. If it's a card issued by your company towards you under your name and the bill if borne by the said company, I don't think it will be canceled.

3) Usually for supp card application, the banks only access the primary card's holder credit history because ultimately the primary card holder is the one liable. But I can't confirm all banks or which bank does not evaluate supp card application's credit history.
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Thanks. Once I under AKPK, i will try to find out the above answer and update here again.
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Hi guys.pls help to clear my doubt.i got bad debt from few bank which currently im seeking help from akpk.the issue here is, will ths affect my job? Im worry if my employer do background check n Find out abt ths n terminate me..pls share.
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QUOTE(catchme80 @ Mar 21 2012, 10:09 PM)
Hi guys.pls help to clear my doubt.i got bad debt from few bank which currently im seeking help from akpk.the issue here is, will ths affect my job? Im worry if my employer do background check n Find out abt ths n terminate me..pls share.
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if you have bad debts from few banks....issue them a legal letter and ask them to pay up...AKPK wont help the bank..... laugh.gif

if you already in trouble, still want to worry so much...
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Can AKPK help us settle debts from credit service company? Or they just help those with credit card/personal loan from banks only?
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QUOTE(harryxaxa @ Apr 7 2012, 10:32 PM)
Can AKPK help us settle debts from credit service company? Or they just help those with credit card/personal loan from banks only?
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When you fill up the online DMP (Debt Management Program) application, credit service companies such as AEON credit are listed...so i guess..the answer is possibly yes


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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 8 2012, 02:27 PM)
Then, you are coming from a hear say....my comment come from a personal experience who had gone thru the whole process -being rejected once, then, appealed, then, enrolled in the program, then, make monthly payment, then, make few times lump sump payment, then at the end, discharge from AKPK....and now back to normal - owning credit cards, getting bank loans again.....

So, who is more accurate.  hmm.gif

Tell you, some banks are really dumb....when you dealing with them as most of them are young executives and dont know much more and always ask you to wait, want to refer to the boss....i have fecked them few times for dont know this, dont know that and the boss reluctant to come out......and the banks have such problem is Citibank, HSBC and SCB. They have made some blunders that when i threaten them to report to Bank Negara, only they become more serious and once i report the incident to Bank NEgara, and the BN officer also  feel doh.gif and after complaining, miracle happen....all things settle very very fast, the bank officer even called me and explain that things have been done and it is not their fault actually, it is system's fault and bla bla bla..... rclxub.gif
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Totally agree with Tigerr, banks are organisations whos sole purpose is to attract customers and make money,not to hold a grudge against someone who screwed up.

Just coz you joined AKPK doesnt mean you will be rejected for any loans after that.

Banks will not offer you loans after that is probably rumours spread by ah longs and debt collectors to scare people from seeking help.

Just my 2 cents.... smile.gif

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Banks WILL reject ur loans if ur name is on AKPK. Happen to my friend 2 weeks ago.
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QUOTE(MugenK20A @ Apr 13 2012, 01:47 PM)
Banks WILL reject ur loans if ur name is on AKPK. Happen to my friend 2 weeks ago.
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your friend also bodoh one.....didnt he was briefed by AKPK that he not suppose to get any new loan and credit card while under AKPK. Still want to try his luck.... shakehead.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif mayb he forgot that his name is on the list.
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QUOTE(MugenK20A @ Apr 13 2012, 04:17 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  mayb he forgot that his name is on the list.
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It is reflected in CCRIS report. The banks are required to report the specific facilities under AKPK and have a special tag for them in CCRIS.
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Hong leong? Ha ha ha ! Good luck lah, they are the worst loan sharks out there....
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YES THE HONG LEONG BANK IS REALLY LOAN SHARKS!!!!!!I TOLD THEM I ALREADY UNDER AKPK AND I THINK THEY KNOW CAUSE AKPK SEND THEM LETTER AND HONG LEONG BANK SEND ME LETTER TELL ME HOW MUCH I SHOULD PAY EVERY MONTH AND EVERY MONTH I SHOULD PAY RM100.00 TO AKPK.BUT WHAT IS REALLY MAKE ME ANGRY IS THEIR CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT EVERY MONTH RM75.00 EVEN I MAKE PAYMENT TO AKPK EVERY MONTH END..BUT THEY STILL CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT RM75.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO I THINK I WILL NEVER SETTLE MY DEBT TO THE HONG LEONG BANK IN 10 YEARS CAUSE EVERY MONTH THEIR WILL CHANGE ME THE LATE PAYMENT FEE...HMMM SO MEANS I JUST PAY TO THE BANK RM25.00 CAUSE THE OTHER RM75.00 PAY FOR LATE PAYMENT FEE...NICE DEAL RIGHT FOR HONG LEONG BANK...DAMN HONG LEONG BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:07 PM)
YES THE HONG LEONG BANK IS REALLY LOAN SHARKS!!!!!!I TOLD THEM I ALREADY UNDER AKPK AND I THINK THEY KNOW CAUSE AKPK SEND THEM LETTER AND HONG LEONG BANK SEND ME LETTER TELL ME HOW MUCH I SHOULD PAY EVERY MONTH AND EVERY MONTH I SHOULD PAY RM100.00 TO AKPK.BUT WHAT IS REALLY MAKE ME ANGRY IS THEIR CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT EVERY MONTH RM75.00 EVEN I MAKE PAYMENT TO AKPK EVERY MONTH END..BUT THEY STILL CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT RM75.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO I THINK I WILL NEVER SETTLE MY DEBT TO THE HONG LEONG BANK IN 10 YEARS CAUSE EVERY MONTH THEIR WILL CHANGE ME THE LATE PAYMENT FEE...HMMM SO MEANS I JUST PAY TO THE BANK RM25.00 CAUSE THE OTHER RM75.00 PAY FOR LATE PAYMENT FEE...NICE DEAL RIGHT FOR HONG LEONG BANK...DAMN HONG LEONG BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Have you spoken to your AKPK counsellor about this matter?
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As i know, at times, akpk will delay payment to bank, hence the late pymt incurred. Bank will reversed the charges ince they update..
But the finance charges still apply..

Been with akpk about 2 years and each bank outstanding still about the same smile.gif
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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:07 PM)
YES THE HONG LEONG BANK IS REALLY LOAN SHARKS!!!!!!I TOLD THEM I ALREADY UNDER AKPK AND I THINK THEY KNOW CAUSE AKPK SEND THEM LETTER AND HONG LEONG BANK SEND ME LETTER TELL ME HOW MUCH I SHOULD PAY EVERY MONTH AND EVERY MONTH I SHOULD PAY RM100.00 TO AKPK.BUT WHAT IS REALLY MAKE ME ANGRY IS THEIR CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT EVERY MONTH RM75.00 EVEN I MAKE PAYMENT TO AKPK EVERY MONTH END..BUT THEY STILL CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT RM75.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO I THINK I WILL NEVER SETTLE MY DEBT TO THE HONG LEONG BANK IN 10 YEARS CAUSE EVERY MONTH THEIR WILL CHANGE ME THE LATE PAYMENT FEE...HMMM SO MEANS I JUST PAY TO THE BANK RM25.00 CAUSE THE OTHER RM75.00 PAY FOR LATE PAYMENT FEE...NICE DEAL RIGHT FOR HONG LEONG BANK...DAMN HONG LEONG BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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to avoid this problem, u go hong leong to pay 2 months payment in advance, like 200. this, they will not charge u late payment even akpk delays as you already have prepayment in the account. but i guess the 75 is not late payment lar...it could be interest charges.......
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need advise.

i have bad credit card debts totalling to RM15k. now am looking to settle it by rescheduling the payment. i have called RHB and they said i need to pay 30% upfront then they will consider to reschedule monthly payment. the problem is i cant pay 30%. i am willing to pay RM1.5k only. they replied that nothing can be done if i cant pay 30%.

is this true that i have to pay 30%? any law or whatever that can support me if i only want to pay RM1.5k? or going to akpk is the best solution?

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QUOTE(vh_20 @ May 2 2012, 11:48 AM)
need advise.

i have bad credit card debts totalling to RM15k. now am looking to settle it by rescheduling the payment. i have called RHB and they said i need to pay 30% upfront then they will consider to reschedule monthly payment. the problem is i cant pay 30%. i am willing to pay RM1.5k only. they replied that nothing can be done if i cant pay 30%.

is this true that i have to pay 30%? any law or whatever that can support me if i only want to pay RM1.5k? or going to akpk is the best solution?

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Guess that this their internal bank policy. If both party cannot come to an agreement, I guess the next best thing is to approach AKPK see how they can help.
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QUOTE(vh_20 @ May 2 2012, 11:48 AM)
need advise.

i have bad credit card debts totalling to RM15k. now am looking to settle it by rescheduling the payment. i have called RHB and they said i need to pay 30% upfront then they will consider to reschedule monthly payment. the problem is i cant pay 30%. i am willing to pay RM1.5k only. they replied that nothing can be done if i cant pay 30%.

is this true that i have to pay 30%? any law or whatever that can support me if i only want to pay RM1.5k? or going to akpk is the best solution?

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There is no law that supports you and really, the law supports the bank because you legally and knowing took credit from them without the ability to repay as per the agreement date (ie. due date). But, the bank also have no hard and fast rule to demand the % as upfront payment, this is up to their own judgement.

Try to escalate it to another officer / higher ranking officer to see if they are willing to give you any leeway on this, otherwise you would do better to approach AKPK on this issue.
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thanks for the advise.

i discuss nicely with the officer and she allow me to split the upfront payment to 3 times. the interest will be stop after my 3rd upfront payment. i explained to her that i really want to settle the debt as im the one who called rhb + my financial for the past 2 years is not good. now im able to pay at least 900/m to settle this in a year.
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i under AKPK program & hv a balance of RM20k to be paid. Can I open a share acc to buy share?
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i got a total rm30k debt with citibank.they ord cancel my card.now i want get help from AKPK.so wat is the step to get help from them.
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You call up to them and ask what is the process
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currently i got house loan and car loan.should be no problem?

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What you mean no problem ?
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post May 9 2012, 10:55 PM

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my advise is to opt for akpk when you really have no choice, almost bankrupt


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Can i know if applied for AKPK, can we keep 1 credit card for emergency case ?
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Can i know if applied for AKPK, can we keep 1 credit card for emergency case ?
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This pretty much depend on AKPK. Of course also depend on how bad your credit / debt. High chances are cannot keep
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QUOTE(Bluepy @ May 14 2012, 12:34 PM)
Can i know if applied for AKPK, can we keep 1 credit card for emergency case ?
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answernya ialah tidak boleh.... laugh.gif
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now i got 3 cc.only citibank i cant afford to pay and need akpk help.so can i still keep the 2 others cc from different bank?how bout car and house loan?

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Once you enroll all cc will have to go
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for my case, one of my card excluded
i guess its because i was the issuer's bank staff, so cant include to akpk
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Those who are muslim, perhaps can try do biz at bazar ramadan this year, last year alone I managed to get clear profit of rm15k during bazar biz (24 days).

After raya, I went to the bank, renegotiated the amt of o/s for cdt card by saying that I want to pay lump sum & they gave rebate on interest which is quite amazing. by the profit I have, I cleared all my 3 cc o/s. Now I just concentrated to pay my personal loan which I paid using my salary (left another 6mth)

Yerp, I'm not self-employed, yet it's not excuse for me to not doing biz as well. Consider it as a bonus month biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(emmert83 @ May 26 2012, 03:30 PM)
Those who are muslim, perhaps can try do biz at bazar ramadan this year, last year alone I managed to get clear profit of rm15k during bazar biz (24 days).

After raya, I went to the bank, renegotiated the amt of o/s for cdt card by saying that I want to pay lump sum & they gave rebate on interest which is quite amazing. by the profit I have, I cleared all my 3 cc o/s. Now I just concentrated to pay my personal loan which I paid using my salary (left another 6mth)

Yerp, I'm not self-employed, yet it's not excuse for me to not doing biz as well. Consider it as a bonus month  biggrin.gif
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15k net profit for just 24 days??

may I know what biz are you doing and selling?
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guys, do you know anything about SMART M0VES Solutions S/B? they introduce them self as well known debt recovery agency. they can reduce about 50% from our total credit card debt. is this true?
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Hi all..i have cc debt with Maybank around rm5800.. since im jobless for 3 months my repayment for both cards is stuck..so now the interest has shot up. They ask me to pay 1800 and balance to pay rm590 monthly for 5 mths..Im earning 4k mthly and i have my expense as below:

House loan: RM780
Car Loan : RM387
Debt repay to friend: RM1500
PTPTN: RM150
Insurance: RM170
Other expense: RM1000

Am i able to apply to akpk with this situation?
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Dont apply unless very necessary
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QUOTE(girly88 @ Jun 5 2012, 03:59 PM)
Hi all..i have cc debt with Maybank around rm5800.. since im jobless for 3 months my repayment for both cards is stuck..so now the interest has shot up. They ask me to pay 1800 and balance to pay rm590 monthly for 5 mths..Im earning 4k mthly and i have my expense as below:

House loan: RM780
Car Loan  : RM387
Debt repay to friend: RM1500
PTPTN: RM150
Insurance: RM170
Other expense: RM1000

Am i able to apply to akpk with this situation?
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It is not advisable to go to them unless you really have no else to turn. Am I assuming that you were unemployed but now have found a new job earning 4k a month? It would be more advisable for you to focus your debt repayment for your CC first since their carry the highest interest rate.

Is it possible to suspend your debt repayment to your friend and cut down on your other expenses? That way you can clear the CC debt first and then resume repaying them.
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if my name is blacklisted, it is possible to sold off my property? or the buyer wont got the loan due to my name is being backlisted?
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You can still sell. Also depend on why you got blacklisted
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Thanks to you guys all. I found it from www.akpk.com.my, this one is .com.my wink.gif
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Hi guys. Have to question to ask..

1) i read somewhere that when entering DMP i need to include spouse's income/spending as well for payment calculation purpose. So should i prepare the needed document (payslip, bank statetement, epf, BE, etc) for her too. By including her is that making her name in the programme too. Can't afford both being 'blacklisted' anyway..

2) can i use CCRIS statement to replace latest loan statement from each bank? Some of them go to my previous mailing address, so no copy. Can i get from the bank instead? How long does it take?

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jun 25 2012, 06:44 PM)
Hi guys. Have to question to ask..

1) i read somewhere that when entering DMP i need to include spouse's income/spending as well for payment calculation purpose. So should i prepare the needed document (payslip, bank statetement, epf, BE, etc) for her too. By including her is that making her name in the programme too. Can't afford both being 'blacklisted' anyway..

2) can i use CCRIS statement to replace latest loan statement from each bank? Some of them go to my previous mailing address, so no copy. Can i get from the bank instead? How long does it take?

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1) not sure . Better bring all documents
2)u need get CCRIS report from bank negara. For latest loan statement, call the bank to get it. If u dun have latest amount, akpk will not accwpt ur form.
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QUOTE(monocat @ Jun 29 2012, 12:51 PM)
1) not sure . Better bring all documents
2)u need get CCRIS report from bank negara. For latest loan statement, call the bank to get it. If u dun have latest amount, akpk will not accwpt ur form.
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attend the 1st time akpk briefing no need to bring anything rite?
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attend the 1st time akpk briefing no need to bring anything rite?
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u can prepare ur questions and ask them during the briefing. if u want meet the consultant at the same day, u can prepare all doc before u go(this is what i see during the 1st breifing).
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u can prepare ur questions and ask them during the briefing. if u want meet the consultant at the same day, u can prepare all doc before u go(this is what i see during the 1st breifing).
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if i never bring those document so i need make a appointment rite?
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after attend the briefing, complete the form and goto counter and tell them u want meet the consultant. please make sure you bring all latest doc specially bank statement.
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For 100k debt, any advice for all bros here who have experience with AKPK, should pay monthly?

Can we lengthen the repayment up to 10 years....

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Do you guys ever heard of Smart Solution? Just receive a phone call offering financial advise which I think similar to AKPK.
Not sure whether it is a scam or for real so just would like to know if there are any experience on this.
Already made an appointment this Thursday and they request to bring all the bank statements.
My credit debt is roughly around 8k and actually I am considering to do either balance transfer or try my luck with this smart solution company.

Appreciate any thoughts.
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Hi guys,

Been going through the thread from pg 1 (well, i skip here and there a bit biggrin.gif)

Anyway, just want to share with you possible other alternative that you can consider to help you through financial difficult times

Warning : If you are already in deep hole or going into it, you must first tell yourself that you want to really want and be disciplined and committed to get out of this hole. If you are not and if you exhausted the options i recommended below, you are going to be in deeper hole than where you are now. Pls be warned

Some of what i suggested maybe have been recommended by other forumers. So sorry if these suggestions are duplicates

P.S. Don't flame me if i hurt anyone, ok? just trying to help a bit

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1) You can consider to balance transfer (BT). I am maintaining the BT thread below with spoilers on pg #1 that easily let you refer to those banks offering zero or good interest rates. This will help you to reduce your cost of borrowing but again, you must be discipline to clear your debts

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2275275&hl=

2) Consider to refinance your house (if you have). your house should have appreciated in value and if you refinance it, you can gain extra cash to sustain you for a while. Eg. my house when buy worth 300k. loan 270k, after repaying a few years roughly left 250k. my house value according to banks is 450k. so if i want, i can refinance and get 100k++ cash back. for those who have flexi home loan, you can let the extra cash sit on the housing loan acc to reduce interest and withdraw only when needed to pay your bills

Note : bear in mind, there are legal fees involved which can amount to a few k

3) Consider to withdraw your EPF to pay for your house monthly installment. i don't remember which acc is that but this can be done. at least EPF settled partly your debt commitment

4) Housing loan rate adjustment. You can ask ur bank to adjust the rate after certain years (like mine must at least 2 yrs only can do this). if the current housing rate offered is more competitive than what you have originally, you can consider this option. as i know, there are no legal fees involved (was told that but never tried, so can't confirm)

5) consider to sell in mudah / lowyat all those stuff sitting at your home that you seldom use. yeah i know won't generate much cash but better than nothing

6) if you have a home, consider to sublet your extra rooms. my mum last time very pandai. rent the whole apartment (i think got like 4 rooms). rent out 3 small rooms but take master room for ourselves. End up we stay for free + got extra money left to pay for utilities laugh.gif

7) car pool where you can. save your petrol

8) etc

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after u make appointment to meet the counsellor but last min u cant make so how?u still can make another appointment or they dont wan meet u again?my debt for pl and cc is around rm90k.i earning around rm5k per monrh.pay car loan rm300 and house loan rm400.my case akpk can help?

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You can sell your car and house to cover the debt. Dont need akpk help
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i wont sell my house and car.akpk look my income and commitment sure can help
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after u make appointment to meet the counsellor but last min u cant make so how?u still can make another appointment or they dont wan meet u again?my debt for pl and cc is around rm90k.i earning around rm5k per monrh.pay car loan rm300 and house loan rm400.my case akpk can help?
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ur case will be considered one of the easiest case of the day from akpk staff point of view provided u are not in legal action yet. Probably ur payment scheme will be 1k per month. Including car n home loan, ur commitment would be 1.7k per month. Still ok, positive cash flow. Try to get discount for first 2 years so monthly akpk commitment could reduce to let say 800/month..
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jul 15 2012, 08:21 AM)
ur case will be considered one of the easiest case of the day from akpk staff point of view provided u are not in legal action yet. Probably ur payment scheme will be 1k per month. Including car n home loan, ur commitment would be 1.7k per month. Still ok, positive cash flow. Try to get discount for first 2 years so monthly akpk commitment could reduce to let say 800/month..
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why u say not in legal action yet?i ord received letter of demand ord coz my citi cc not pay more than 5 month ord
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why u say not in legal action yet?i ord received letter of demand ord coz my citi cc not pay more than 5 month ord
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i think letter of demand still ok.. Can try ur luck..
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i think letter of demand still ok.. Can try ur luck..
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akpk say only cant help those bankrup only.legal case still can rite?
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Dear all,

For a monthly commitment of total around RM3.5k (RM120k debt), if AKPK possible to lower the repayment until RM1k/monthly and lengthen the repayment period without any interest addition from the pending banks?

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i ord apply the DMP online.at this moment i still need to pay my cc and pl while waiting for akpk status?


Added on July 19, 2012, 2:50 pmhow long time the bank need to declare someone bankrupcy?

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Jul 19 2012, 12:07 PM)
i ord apply the DMP online.at this moment i still need to pay my cc and pl while waiting for akpk status?


Added on July 19, 2012, 2:50 pmhow long time the bank need to declare someone bankrupcy?
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I want to know on this as well..... Do we still need to pay the minimum payment while waiting for AKPK status....
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I want to know on this as well..... Do we still need to pay the minimum payment while waiting for AKPK status....
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you how long never pay your cc or pl?ord make 1st payment to akpk?
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Be it with or without AKPK debt restructuring, one is supposed to pay the minimum due. Else I believe collection calls will still continue to come.
AKPK will help discuss with the banks to reduce interest and convert it into term loan with fixed pay where most of the time it is lower than the normal min due. That is provided the person is qualified for AKPK to help.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 20 2012, 10:58 AM)
Be it with or without AKPK debt restructuring, one is supposed to pay the minimum due. Else I believe collection calls will still continue to come.
AKPK will help discuss with the banks to reduce interest and convert it into term loan with fixed pay where most of the time it is lower than the normal min due. That is provided the person is qualified for AKPK to help.
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how someone know whether qualified for AKPK DMP programme or not


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QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 20 2012, 10:58 AM)
Be it with or without AKPK debt restructuring, one is supposed to pay the minimum due. Else I believe collection calls will still continue to come.
AKPK will help discuss with the banks to reduce interest and convert it into term loan with fixed pay where most of the time it is lower than the normal min due. That is provided the person is qualified for AKPK to help.
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if the bank call then we can say we ord apply for akpk dmp programme and ask them to hold on


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QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 20 2012, 10:58 AM)
Be it with or without AKPK debt restructuring, one is supposed to pay the minimum due. Else I believe collection calls will still continue to come.
AKPK will help discuss with the banks to reduce interest and convert it into term loan with fixed pay where most of the time it is lower than the normal min due. That is provided the person is qualified for AKPK to help.
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since we ord make 1st payment to akpk then where got extra money to pay those cc and pl?1 more question is someone that never pay their cc or pl for few years but they still can get the akpk dmp approved,it is true?

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Jul 20 2012, 01:41 PM)
how someone know whether qualified for AKPK DMP programme or not


Added on July 20, 2012, 1:43 pm
if the bank call then we can say we  ord apply for akpk dmp programme and ask them to hold on


Added on July 20, 2012, 2:08 pm
since we ord make 1st payment to akpk then where got extra money to pay those cc and pl?1 more question is someone that never pay their cc or pl for few years but they still can get the akpk dmp approved,it is true?
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I believe that if AKPK already ask you to make the 1st payment, that should mean that you already qualified. We shouldn't be paying the banks anymore as AKPK already make the deal with the bank(s). When I first enrolled with AKPK, the banks keep calling me forcing me to pay. I reported to AKPK. After that, all the calls stopped coming in. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 20 2012, 03:01 PM)
I believe that if AKPK already ask you to make the 1st payment, that should mean that you already qualified. We shouldn't be paying the banks anymore as AKPK already make the deal with the bank(s). When I first enrolled with AKPK, the banks keep calling me forcing me to pay. I reported to AKPK. After that, all the calls stopped coming in. smile.gif
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Are you one of the successful stories?

I'm not sure my question been answered or not...but like samsungXP bro asked, if we enrolled (waiting for confirmation), we still have to pay the minimum payment to all the pending banks? Usually how long AKPK will process our application? 1 month? 3 weeks? 2 weeks?

Thanks....
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QUOTE(anotherpityguy @ Jul 20 2012, 03:16 PM)
Are you one of the successful stories?

I'm not sure my question been answered or not...but like samsungXP bro asked, if we enrolled (waiting for confirmation), we still have to pay the minimum payment to all the pending banks? Usually how long AKPK will process our application? 1 month? 3 weeks? 2 weeks?

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I enrolled mine 3 years ago. Went to briefing, submitted all the necessary documents and 3 weeks later got a call from them saying that my application was successful.

Just a question here.. do you guys pay AKPK 1st before knowing your application is successfull or not? Is that the procedure AKPK currently practice? Thats wierd hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 20 2012, 03:32 PM)
I enrolled mine 3 years ago. Went to briefing, submitted all the necessary documents and 3 weeks later got a call from them saying that my application was successful.

Just a question here.. do you guys pay AKPK 1st before knowing your application is successfull or not? Is that the procedure AKPK currently practice? Thats wierd  hmm.gif
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I'm not sure...I'm planning to go only....that's why I'm curious whether we should pay the bank during the processing time...any idea guys...
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AKPK will only collect payment on behalf of the banks upon successful enrollment. Prior to that the customer is in actual fact still obligated to pay the banks. Thus my initial comment which stated "Be it with or without AKPK debt restructuring, one is supposed to pay the minimum due."

AKPK will send the names and arrangement to the banks on the payment rescheduling upon successful enrollment into the program. Even before that when they assess the customer, they would also have inquire the banks on the customer's outstanding for them to work out the repayments. Thus banks will know if one approached AKPK. However does collection calls stop in between, that I am not sure thus my comment: " Else I believe collection calls will still continue to come.".

You may want to consult AKPK when you visit them for initial meetup.
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QUOTE(anotherpityguy @ Jul 20 2012, 04:25 PM)
I'm not sure...I'm planning to go only....that's why I'm curious whether we should pay the bank during the processing time...any idea guys...
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I just visited akpk website here: http://www.akpk.org.my/services/debt-manag...ication-process

whoa.. now so many process before the confirmation of application.. 3 years ago I just walked into BNM and straight away got the one-on-one counselling session smile.gif But the one thing that I remembered is that the counselor re-assured that once we agreed with the DMP plan, sign the documents and made the 1st payment, it is officially confirm. Banks cant ask money from us anymore. Akpk is under BNM and BNM is the boss. Banks have to follow wht the boss says.

Just a reminder new enroller.. dont ever missed paying your DMP. No second chance beb. Peace.
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Thanks a lot of your replies...I really appreciate it.
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QUOTE(anotherpityguy @ Jul 20 2012, 03:16 PM)
Are you one of the successful stories?

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I dont know but I actually giggles when I saw this, successful and akpk doesnt seems to match, people usually enrol into akpk when everything else "fail"
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got some inquiry need to ask here for those apply for dmp nline b4.i got a cc and inside the cc got some dial for cash.so at the dmp online i need fill up all the dial for cash or juz the cc?coz the dial for cash also got acc number different from the cc


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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 20 2012, 03:01 PM)
I believe that if AKPK already ask you to make the 1st payment, that should mean that you already qualified. We shouldn't be paying the banks anymore as AKPK already make the deal with the bank(s). When I first enrolled with AKPK, the banks keep calling me forcing me to pay. I reported to AKPK. After that, all the calls stopped coming in. smile.gif
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after we make 1st payment to akpk while waiting for the application status but how if reject?

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after we make 1st payment to akpk while waiting for the application status but how if reject?
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If im not mistaken, you only pay after signing the DMP agreement. Did you sign the DMP agreement at BNM already? If yes then your application should be a successful one. Unless AKPK practicing a different procedure now.

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[quote=Art Hour,Jul 21 2012, 07:32 PM]

Added on July 21, 2012, 9:42 am
after we make 1st payment to akpk while waiting for the application status but how if reject?
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If im not mistaken, you only pay after signing the DMP agreement. Did you sign the DMP agreement at BNM already? If yes then your application should be a successful one. Unless AKPK practicing a different procedure now.
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they told me fill in the DMP online and make 1st payment within 10 days after fill in the DMP online


Added on July 22, 2012, 12:31 pm[quote=samsungXP,Jul 21 2012, 09:30 AM]
got some inquiry need to ask here for those apply for dmp nline b4.i got a cc and inside the cc got some dial for cash.so at the dmp online i need fill up all the dial for cash or juz the cc?coz the dial for cash also got acc number different from the cc


Added on July 21, 2012, 9:42 am
after we make 1st payment to akpk while waiting for the application status but how if reject?
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anyone can give answer that dial for cash need to fill in on dmp or juz the cc?

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Don't understand... Pay what payment? How much to pay? What payment is that?
U better call them up and update here later. No point asking herre without getting answers and you stalled yourself for days. doh.gif

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Don't understand... Pay what payment? How much to pay? What payment is that?
U better call them up and update here later. No point asking herre without getting answers and you stalled yourself for days. doh.gif
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they say after do 1st payment then only they help u summit the dmp application


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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 20 2012, 03:32 PM)
I enrolled mine 3 years ago. Went to briefing, submitted all the necessary documents and 3 weeks later got a call from them saying that my application was successful.

Just a question here.. do you guys pay AKPK 1st before knowing your application is successfull or not? Is that the procedure AKPK currently practice? Thats wierd  hmm.gif
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yes we need to pay akpk 1st b4 they process our application

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1st payment.. What 1st payment?
They haven't even assess how much you owe? So what is this 1st payment? Is it their processing/enrolment fees or something?
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1st payment.. What 1st payment?
They haven't even assess how much you owe? So what is this 1st payment? Is it their processing/enrolment fees or something?
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after briefing we make appointment meet the counsellor.then we bring all our bank document.the counsellor will count all the debt and tell u how much need to pay monthly.after that they ask u to fill all those debt with bank in dmp online.then after fill in within 10 days u need to make the 1st payment then only they will process your application.so u need to wait for the status.last time procedure not like that?

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after briefing we make appointment meet the counsellor.then we bring all our bank document.the counsellor will count all the debt and tell u how much need to pay monthly.after that they ask u to fill all those debt with bank in dmp online.then after fill in within 10 days u need to make the 1st payment then only they will process your application.so u need to wait for the status.last time procedure not like that?
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last time i went through different procedure..
1st - briefing
2nd - counseling appointment - agree on DMP plan, fill up forms & bank in 1st payment (using maybank CDM), return all forms with attached bankin slip, then sign agreement (this confirms the success of enrollment)
3rd - pay AKPK on monthly basis.

my opinion for the current DMP process, if you agreed on the DMP plan (i dont know if you signed any agreement during the counseling session or not..did you?), then only they will give you a user id and password to log in to the website right? (i dont think they will give any user id and pword to those who are not eligible for the DMP during the counseling session right? pls correct me if im wrong on this). This is just my opinion though, if you want to be sure, the best thing is to call AKPK directly.


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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 23 2012, 05:52 PM)
last time i went through different procedure..
1st - briefing
2nd - counseling appointment - agree on DMP plan, fill up forms & bank in 1st payment (using maybank CDM), return all forms with attached bankin slip, then sign agreement (this confirms the success of enrollment)
3rd - pay AKPK on monthly basis.

my opinion for the current DMP process, if you agreed on the DMP plan (i dont know if you signed any agreement during the counseling session or not..did you?), then only they will give you a user id and password to log in to the website right? (i dont think they will give any user id and pword to those who are not eligible for the DMP during the counseling session right? pls correct me if im wrong on this). This is just my opinion though, if you want to be sure, the best thing is to call AKPK directly.
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they got give me id and passwd to log into dmp.but i think never sign any agreement yet
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I advice, don't join AKPK... Later you will be more sad shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Frankylam @ Jul 23 2012, 07:00 PM)
I advice, don't join AKPK... Later you will be more sad shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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no choice then muz join or u wan bankrupt
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no choice then muz join or u wan bankrupt
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Yes, I know that.... If credit card problem then don't choose AKPK hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Yes, I know that.... If credit card problem then don't choose AKPK hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Jul 24 2012, 01:54 PM)
if dont go akpk who wan to help ? ah long?
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Just want ask you 1 question, you own how much sin?
If you own below 10k then not need go to AKPK if not later u need to pay 20k..
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QUOTE(Frankylam @ Jul 24 2012, 09:45 PM)
Just want ask you 1 question, you own how much sin?
If you own below 10k then not need go to AKPK if not later u need to pay 20k..
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i owe 90k includ pl.below 30k i wont go akpk

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I advice, don't join AKPK... Later you will be more sad shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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WHY?? blink.gif blink.gif
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Because AKPK help the bank to collect back money and extra interest. Dont be stupid....

Previous time, my father own bank 30k then we go there for help. I ask them how much need to pay per month.

They say pay RM 150 ok already, then I ask how long i need to pay 30 years..

Then u count how much they charge us..
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QUOTE(Frankylam @ Jul 25 2012, 11:44 PM)
Because AKPK help the bank to collect back money and extra interest. Dont be stupid....

Previous time, my father own bank 30k then we go there for help. I ask them how much need to pay per month.

They say pay RM 150 ok already, then I ask how long i need to pay 30 years..

Then u count how much they charge us..
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Seriously I dont think you understand what AKPK does.

AKPK is to educate you to save your money and solve your dept problem. You cannot run away with your dept. What you use is what you need to pay.

AKPK also help to suppress for any court action and dept hunters. AKPK also will avoid you to get bankrupt.

If you dont go to AKPK, bank will charge you 18% per year for CC interest. AKPK reduce it to 9% per year.

I have like 50k dept with 6 CC, now im on year 3 on AKPK and manage to close 3 CC already.

For example, AKPK instruct to pay them RM650 per month but I also did pay extra RM 200 - RM 300 directly to the bank that I focus for account closure.

So what else do you want. Educate yourself and pay the bank




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I totally agree with ptit.. AKPK is some sort like a second chance for you to start over,manage your debt better, have a peace of mind coz no more getting calls from banks..

If you have 30k loan and you enroll in AKPK for 30 years and pay 150/month, it does not mean that you have to service it for 30 years.. You can settle everything maybe less than 10 years. Service akpk's monthly payment, at the same time if got extra money, pay extra to the bank. Just like what ptit did. If you do this constantly every month, sure can settle everything within 10 years maybe less. If you dont have extra money then its ok.. just pay akpk monthly payment. Settle. Dont have to juggle here and there. No headache.

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QUOTE(Frankylam @ Jul 25 2012, 11:44 PM)
Because AKPK help the bank to collect back money and extra interest. Dont be stupid....

Previous time, my father own bank 30k then we go there for help. I ask them how much need to pay per month.

They say pay RM 150 ok already, then I ask how long i need to pay 30 years..

Then u count how much they charge us..
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i think u better goto AKPK and understand their process before you post any reply here....
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I became guarantor for a car loan under my mother's name. Then, my mother divorce my father and she is now missing in action. The bank auction the car and ask me to pay all the outstanding as i am the guarantor. I went to akpk, fill in the form in june but until now (almost August), there is no reply from AKPK...what does that mean
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QUOTE(ptit @ Jul 26 2012, 12:15 PM)
Seriously I dont think you understand what AKPK does.

AKPK is to educate you to save your money and solve your dept problem. You cannot run away with your dept. What you use is what you need to pay.

AKPK also help to suppress for any court action and dept hunters. AKPK also will avoid you to get bankrupt.

If you dont go to AKPK, bank will charge you 18% per year for CC interest. AKPK reduce it to 9% per year.

I have like 50k dept with 6 CC, now im on year 3 on AKPK and manage to close 3 CC already.

For example, AKPK instruct to pay them RM650 per month but I also did pay extra RM 200 - RM 300 directly to the bank that I focus for account closure.

So what else do you want. Educate yourself and pay the bank
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Just share my knowledge, Is true AKPK help us to reduce the rate from 18% to 9 %.

It actually help alot. But I wanted to ask one question did you try to nego with the bank before?

I have nego with the bank 5 time then the bank offer us no interest and we pay by 3 years or longer. Important you will pay monthly.

What you say this is true "You cannot run away with your dept. What you use is what you need to pay"
No one can run away from here.


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i think u better goto AKPK and understand their process before you post any reply here....
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Just ignore me. Thank



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jb akpk is very efficient. Less than a month after joining class already got the approval letter. Few years headache gone in just few weeks. Never thought government dept could be that good. Thanks akpk jb..


Added on July 26, 2012, 11:33 pmjb akpk is very efficient. Less than a month after joining class already got the approval letter. Few years headache gone in just few weeks. Never thought government dept could be that good. Thanks akpk jb..

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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 26 2012, 01:25 PM)
I totally agree with ptit.. AKPK is some sort like a second chance for you to start over,manage your debt better, have a peace of mind coz no more getting calls from banks..

If you have 30k loan and you enroll in AKPK for 30 years and pay 150/month, it does not mean that you have to service it for 30 years.. You can settle everything maybe less than 10 years. Service akpk's monthly payment, at the same time if got extra money, pay extra to the bank. Just like what ptit did. If you do this constantly every month, sure can settle everything within 10 years maybe less. If you dont have extra money then its ok.. just pay akpk monthly payment. Settle. Dont have to juggle here and there. No headache.
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akpk repayment only 10 years max rite?


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jb akpk is very efficient. Less than a month after joining class already got the approval letter. Few years headache gone in just few weeks. Never thought government dept could be that good. Thanks akpk jb..


Added on July 26, 2012, 11:33 pmjb akpk is very efficient. Less than a month after joining class already got the approval letter. Few years headache gone in just few weeks. Never thought government dept could be that good. Thanks akpk jb..
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after u meet the counsellor then they will count how much u need to pay monthly.then they will ask u fill in dmp only and within 10 days muz make the 1st payment.juz wan to know the 1st payment amount will be the same amount for the continue month when your application approved?did akpk call u to confirm your dmp online application?

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akpk repayment only 10 years max rite?


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after u meet the counsellor then they will count how much u need to pay monthly.then they will ask u fill in dmp only and within 10 days muz make the 1st payment.juz wan to know the 1st payment amount will be the same amount for the continue month when your application approved?did akpk call u to confirm your dmp online application?
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when meeting them, they gave me an estimated monthly commitment. I asked for discount for first 2 years. So they reduced the payment. Right after meeting, immediately i fill in online application form and bank in 1st payment the day after. After that never follow up until on the 20th day after making payment the approval letter reach my doorstep. Payment as per agreed which is the 1st year same as the 1st payment i made before, then gradual increment for 2nd year followed by thereafter. Sekian, mekaseyyy..
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but after i went to akpk, they just ask me to fill in some form. They never ask me go fill in online application or go to bank to bank in. it has been almost 2 months now. what can i do? any master here can share. I am just the guarantor for my mother in car loan. the amount less than 20k
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but after i went to akpk, they just ask me to fill in some form. They never ask me go fill in online application or go to bank to bank in. it has been almost 2 months now. what can i do? any master here can share. I am just the guarantor for my mother in car loan. the amount less than 20k
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the case is the car is sold by the bank already but the amount is still not enough to pay for the car loan. so the bank wants me to pay, as a guarantor, 60% of the outstanding loan. i think it is too much and also i can't afford. that's why i go to akpk, hoping that akpk will negotiate to the bank to reduce the amount i need to pay. but until now no news. i am worried
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Jul 27 2012, 12:02 AM)
akpk repayment only 10 years max rite?
if im not mistaken, 10 years is minimum. Correct me if im wrong.
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nego with bank first, if failed, then go to AKPK, and yes AKPK does help to reduce the interest charge,.

u can go to akpk website to read more of people exp such as below:

http://www.akpk.org.my/learning/success-stories

QUOTE(Frankylam @ Jul 25 2012, 11:44 PM)
Because AKPK help the bank to collect back money and extra interest. Dont be stupid....

Previous time, my father own bank 30k then we go there for help. I ask them how much need to pay per month.

They say pay RM 150 ok already, then I ask how long i need to pay 30 years..

Then u count how much they charge us..
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they (AKPK) nego to the bank to reduce the interestlah. AFAIK, they will no charge u anything. FOC

as sample below:

http://www.akpk.org.my/learning/success-st.../id/47/story-14


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QUOTE(Art Hour @ Jul 29 2012, 06:24 PM)
if im not mistaken, 10 years is minimum. Correct me if im wrong.
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after fill in the DMP online application and make 1st payment then we need to wait how long for the akpk status?can we check the status online?

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Hi,

I need advise to settle my debt issue. Currently I have debts as per below

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HSBC - RM18K
CIMB - RM13K

Personal Loan
OCBC - RM9K
Al-Rajhi - RM18K

Total = RM58k

Could anyone advise whether I can get any rebate or waiver if I able to make full settlement for credit card and personal loan? Please assist me as soonest possible.

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You need to nego with the bank.
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after fill in the DMP online application and make 1st payment then we need to wait how long for the akpk status?can we check the status online?
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QUOTE(vijaz7 @ Jul 30 2012, 11:32 PM)
Hi,

I need advise to settle my debt issue. Currently I have debts as per below

Credit card
HSBC - RM18K
CIMB - RM13K

Personal Loan
OCBC - RM9K
Al-Rajhi - RM18K

Total = RM58k

Could anyone advise whether I can get any rebate or waiver if I able to make full settlement for credit card and personal loan? Please assist me as soonest possible.

Thank you.
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try nego with the bank first if fail, go to akpk.
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Can anyone please clarify, I want to make full settlement for my credit card. Been under akpk for about 1year++.After making full settlement, do i need to cancel my card or it was canceled since joining akpk?
Been wondering as in online banking my card is still there..
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It doesn't make sense to me how AKPK "help" me restructure my debt. Forumer, I am a guarantor to my mother's car loan and she defaulted. So I asked Maybank and it is willing to give me 40%. I was thinking that AKPK can help me, then I go to AKPK. You guys won't believe what they say after 1 month I apply. Instead of getting more discount, AKPK ask me to pay for the FULL AMOUNT without discount. So I went to AKPK, instead of paying less, AKPK ask me to pay MORE!!!!! IS this how AKLP HELP us!!!!!!
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the success story in AKPK website sounds alot like soap drama...

http://www.akpk.org.my/learning/success-stories


Are they for real??
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look like a lot of ppl dont know what AKPK do

1. your are not bankrupt
2. max repayment is 10 years
3. your income is able to payoff you debts within 10 years
4. AKPK will nego with the bank for the interest rate. so diff ppl will get diff rate.
5. those house/car lelong and still got balance need to be paid also can apply
6. bring along the lawyer letter from bank (if any), AKPK will help you to stop the legal action
7. you still can apply loan when you are in AKPK program but not CC(depend on bank want to approve or not)
8. if you cancel the AKPK program you have to wait 1 year to apply.
9. if you fail to pay AKPK, the program will be cancel, and you are disqualified to apply again.(whole life)
10. once you join AKPK, all CC will be cancelled and you are not able to apply when you are in AKPK program

currently i only remember this. will add on when i remember.
AKPK got briefing every weekdays, you can go the briefing 1st to understand then only decide to join or not
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Can anyone please clarify, I want to make full settlement for my credit card. Been under akpk for about 1year++.After making full settlement, do i need to cancel my card or it was canceled since joining akpk?
Been wondering as in online banking my card is still there..
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my DMP ord approved 2 weeks ago but why my cc statement they still charge me late charge,annual card charge?
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my DMP ord approved 2 weeks ago but why my cc statement they still charge me late charge,annual card charge?
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for this you need to take initiative to contact the credit card issuer and let them know of the charges. inform them that you're under AKPK program and then they will waive it in your next statement. you have to do this every month!!! kinda screwed up system they have huh? doh.gif
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QUOTE(venven81 @ Aug 13 2012, 11:35 AM)
for this you need to take initiative to contact the credit card issuer and let them know of the charges. inform them that you're under AKPK program and then they will waive it in your next statement. you have to do this every month!!! kinda screwed up system they have huh?  doh.gif
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they should know we r under akpk.why we still need to inform them
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I received a call from a credit card debt restructuring company. They offering to restructure all my card debts into monthly installment of 3 years at an interest rate of 9%p.a

Just wondering what kind of service are this and are they legit? The company name is sbh consultancy management located in bukit jalil.

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they should know we r under akpk.why we still need to inform them
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Hi all sifus,

Need to ask this for my relative. She has credit card outstanding amount totalling RM160k with 5 banks. I am willing to help her out to settle her debts completely but I only have RM100k. Can she negotiate with the respective banks to get a discount for full settlement? If yes, is it better for her to default on all her credit card payments for, say, 5 to 6 months, and then negotiate with the banks. Otherwise, the banks might say her payment records are clean so far and might not offer discounts.(not knowing that she already in deep trouble juggling the holes with few covers). I really wish to settle her nightmare once and for all and hope she learns a lesson after this.

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i ord starting paying akpk monthly installment.the question is how i know wat is the lastest outstanding balance that i still owe the bank coz i know akpk wont sent any statement to us.now my monthly installment is rm1.2k monthly.can i reduce the amount of monthly installment on the 2nd year?


Added on August 27, 2012, 11:02 pmi ord in akpk dmp for 1 month but why i still received lawyer letter from bank ask for payment?

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hi there, i would like to ask if im not under any debt, and i dont own any credit cards, just that i have a very poor financial management in the sense that i totally dont know how to save my money...can i seek advice from akpk???
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I have about 30K owed on different credit cards. i wish get a loan to consolidate all the debts but since my payment record isnt perfect, the application was rejected.

Chong

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You dont need loan to pay off. Just be discipline to pay off 1 card at the time
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Not that i dont want to be discipline, the monthly repayment has exceeded the amount of money i can pay for each month.

AKPK is a good option but i prefer to get a loan, as i dont want any AKPK record on my CCRIS
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Not that i dont want to be discipline, the monthly repayment has exceeded the amount of money i can pay for each month.

AKPK is a good option but i prefer to get a loan, as i dont want any AKPK record on my CCRIS
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The effective interest expense u will incur from getting a personal loan gonna be higher than that u getting from credit cards.

My advice, forget about personal loan. Focus on making prompt repayment every month, and STOP using the cards altogether. What u need is financial discipline, personal loan is not gonna help. It might even snowball your debt problem.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2012, 10:12 PM)
The effective interest expense u will incur from getting a personal loan gonna be higher than that u getting from credit cards.

My advice, forget about personal loan. Focus on making prompt repayment every month, and STOP using the cards altogether. What u need is financial discipline, personal loan is not gonna help. It might even snowball your debt problem.
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balance transfer
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Get some family to help you out if you are really too too tight.. Then work on reducing those cards
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Be strong to survive... That's life.

I just got words to share... Buy things that u are going to use instantly... Not mean for keep stock... Then u feel enjoying spending money...
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TS - call up or even better go to the bank, them tell this, stop the interest first, tell them how much you can afford first, tell me you want to pay but at the moment you cant afford the min payment.

Some bank will take time to consider, but mostly will accept, they are bank - in the end they just want their $ back and your money (interest - that has been charge previously).


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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Aug 26 2012, 10:36 PM)
i ord starting paying akpk monthly installment.the question is how i know wat is the lastest outstanding balance that i still owe the bank coz i know akpk wont sent any statement to us.now my monthly installment is rm1.2k monthly.can i reduce the amount of monthly installment on the 2nd year?


Added on August 27, 2012, 11:02 pmi ord in akpk dmp for 1 month but why i still received lawyer letter from bank ask for payment?
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yes by settling the debt directly to the bank, and ask them to produce a release letter and forward a copy to akpk, they should reduce the monthly payment..

QUOTE(UyxoR @ Aug 5 2012, 12:01 AM)
the success story in AKPK website sounds alot like soap drama...

http://www.akpk.org.my/learning/success-stories
Are they for real??
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yes they are, my cozen, cc loan up to 20k-40k, instead of paying 1k per month akpk help to restructure the loan/cc debt and reduce to half, rm250-500.

QUOTE(barium @ Aug 29 2012, 11:08 PM)
hi there, i would like to ask if im not under any debt, and i dont own any credit cards, just that i have a very poor financial management in the sense that i totally dont know how to save my money...can i seek advice from akpk???
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Guys, which one is better for CC settlement. AKPK or personal loan with 6.88% interest?
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Hi all,

I have been with the AKPK DMP program for almost a year now. My company is now applying a corporate credit card from CITIBANK for me. May I know whether I am entitled for corporate or supplementary credit card?

Please advise.

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QUOTE(Hudd @ Sep 27 2012, 10:48 AM)
Guys, which one is better for CC settlement. AKPK or personal loan with 6.88% interest?
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Both also not good idea unless no choice
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i ord in akpk dmp a few month.monthly pay rm1200.but this month i got some family problem.so i only able to pay rm600 for this month.so wat can i do?
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You can check from http://www.akpk.com.my/p/services.html wink.gif

Or attend their seminar http://www.akpk.com.my/p/seminar-in-malaysia.html


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Both also not good idea unless no choice
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You can learn from Su Cheng's story: http://www.akpk.com.my/p/learning.html

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What is the amount? The best option is family or friend with 0% interest (mebbe a nice dinner). If the debt is far too much that it cannot be handled, call the bank straight to see any potential way to settle it. Some would rather turn the CC debt into a term loan then have it go bad.

If else fails, only go to AKPK for advice.
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Hi got an issue, n im seek for advice

Recently, i just got approval of my housing loan (which i sign the SnP and letter offer already), and 4 days after that I did a personal loan and get approval as well.

But i when i submit for personal loan i didnt disclose abt my housing loan.

The only thing that i disclosed is my car loan. The reason of non-disclosure is because housing loan will be paid by my parent and they juz borrowg my name to get the loan approval. Dat y i dont feel the need to disclose my housing loan, but later on after i get the approval i dont feel like it is the right thing to do.

(1) Is there any impact on my housing loan?

(2) Will the housing bank withdraw their approval? (since all the credit information will be gather at BNM)

(3) Do i need to inform the personal loan officer and disclose about the housing loan?

(4) Will i receive any lawsuit against the non disclosure item


Since im still in waiting period of 90days before bank release the disbursement to the owner. so im afraid the non-disclosure on personal loan will give impact to my housing loan. sad.gif

Im also afraid the personal loan officer will get the information of housing loan and question the reliability of information that i provided to them. sad.gif

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I have few debts accumulated to the amount around 40k I think. I fail to pay the debts after I failed in my business few years back, I stop all my payment as well. Any luck?

Bank A : 10k
Bank B : 15k
Bank C : 10K

Now my income is around 1k - 1.5k, can I go AKPK with these debts and income? What should I bring along? Which number should I call? Or should I just go direct the AKPK HQ?

Any advice?

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QUOTE(skydrake @ Nov 7 2012, 03:14 PM)
I have few debts accumulated to the amount around 40k I think. I fail to pay the debts after I failed in my business few years back, I stop all my payment as well. Any luck?

Bank A : 10k
Bank B : 15k
Bank C : 10K

Now my income is around 1k - 1.5k, can I go AKPK with these debts and income? What should I bring along? Which number should I call? Or should I just go direct the AKPK HQ?

Any advice?
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if your income after deduct all your expense and the balance left enuff to cover the monthly installment that set by akpk then there is no problem.if not akpk cant help u
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 11 2012, 10:47 PM)
if your income after deduct all your expense and the balance left enuff to cover the monthly installment that set by akpk then there is no problem.if not akpk cant help u
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Hi all master,

I have few question need to ask, i made the first payment for the DMP on 2.11.12 after done the Online DMP application.
Today just received the letter from AKPK. After go through the letter, few question need all master advise:

1. APKP inform me to make a monthly payment on every 30th of month & first payment need to be make before 30 Nov.
So what happen to my 1st payment on 2.11.12 ? Anyone facing this problem before?


2. the letter doesn't stage the repayment tenure & interest rate then how ?


Thanks
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Hello everyone,

Can anyone advise me if I will be eligible for the akpk program?



Debts:

CCs = 30k
PLS = 47k

Total: RM77k

Min payment :RM2.7k (average)

Income : Net salary RM2.7k (I lost my job a few months back. Used to be earning RM4k-6k, but my new employer pays me RM2.7k [after EPF]).


Expenditures:

Rent 500
Insurance 236
Groceries 600
Car loan 511
Mobile 80
Gas 150
Utility bills 100

Total : RM2177


That leaves me with RM523.

I have never missed any min payments before for the past few years but I can now no longer service the loans and CCs monthly repayments.

Enlighten me.

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Reduce your mobile bill. Stop the insurance temporary. Sell your car.
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wat happen when we miss 1 monthly repayment to akpk?akpk will cancel your dmp?


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Hi all master,

I have few question need to ask, i made the first payment for the DMP on 2.11.12 after done the Online DMP application.
Today just received the letter from AKPK. After go through the letter, few question need all master advise:

1. APKP inform me to make a monthly payment on every 30th of month & first payment need to be make before 30 Nov.
So what happen to my 1st payment on 2.11.12 ? Anyone facing this problem before?
2. the letter doesn't stage the repayment tenure & interest rate then how ?
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i think the 1st payment is to pay to the bank or just akpk keep it to standby if u 1 month miss or cant make payment.my letter also not stage the repayment tenure and interest.but soon every bank will send u a agreement.so u will know the repayment tenure and the interest.this all depend on the bank.for mine mostly 9% per annum.better than cc 18%

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 18 2012, 11:21 PM)
wat happen when we miss 1 monthly repayment to akpk?akpk will cancel your dmp?


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i think the 1st payment is to pay to the bank or just akpk keep it to standby if u 1 month miss or cant make payment.my letter also not stage the repayment tenure and interest.but soon every bank will send u a agreement.so u will know the repayment tenure and the interest.this all depend on the bank.for mine mostly 9% per annum.better than cc 18%
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I think you cannot miss any payment...
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I think you cannot miss any payment...
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if the monthly payment is rm1k but 1 month we pay less coz got some problem then how?like pay rm800
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if the monthly payment is rm1k but 1 month we pay less coz got some problem then how?like pay rm800
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Better pay as in the agreement if not they will terminate u
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Better pay as in the agreement if not they will terminate u
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i heard they will send u a reminder letter b4 terminate u if u still not make payment
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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Nov 18 2012, 11:21 PM)
wat happen when we miss 1 monthly repayment to akpk?akpk will cancel your dmp?


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i think the 1st payment is to pay to the bank or just akpk keep it to standby if u 1 month miss or cant make payment.my letter also not stage the repayment tenure and interest.but soon every bank will send u a agreement.so u will know the repayment tenure and the interest.this all depend on the bank.for mine mostly 9% per annum.better than cc 18%
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This is a very good thread. Cant believe i can finish up reading all the 22 pages.

Beware of the culprit cc and pl. Luckily oir government has this akpk to help. If not i think the bankruptcy rate will go even higher
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if i 1 month cant make payment to akpk due to some financial problem then how?
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if i 1 month cant make payment to akpk due to some financial problem then how?
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Hi. Anyone knows what will happen once we fully settled the debt in AKPK and released from the programme? ANyone knows if those who finish their AKPK can get credit card or loan? I just finished my settlement and need to know whether its possible or not


Added on December 15, 2012, 7:06 pm
QUOTE(RO Player @ Dec 5 2012, 11:45 AM)
got a friend

settle with bank..cheaper...>30k...to 12k only..in 4 payments..

2nd bank..ard 30k..also half..

his name clear from BNM in 1.5 months.  whistling.gif
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bro, did ur fren manage to apply new loans after AKPK?

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Hi guys,

I've been in AKPK for 2 years. My brother in law is willing to help me make full settlements so that I can purchase a house for my family.

The question is, can I really apply for a loan after I make full settlements and cancel AKPK? I really need to confirm this because if not, I don't want to do it, as I'm reluctant to borrow any money from my brother in law and put the burden on him.

If possible I want to quickly apply for personal loan to quickly pay him back. So if I could apply for loans, how long I have to wait after settling AKPK? Anybody got experience?

Thank you so much in advance.
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hi, i just registered to this forum just to post this out.
I am 22 yrs old and currently working at bank negara. income 2200
the problem is currently I have these debts :

Car loan : RM390/ month

Personal Loans :
Bank Rakyat RM15k
Bank Islam RM24k
RHB 5k
Previous company koperasi RM16k

these are excluding interest.

I've missed to pay all loans for 5 months, except car loan.
I think i am in serious trouble and about to seek AKPK for helps.

These loans are due to my immature behavior, starting my first job at 21, spending a lot on shopping, entertainment and try to start a business which going nothing...Im still young and i am worried as i have a long journey to go.

Shud i go for akpk?
If i am in akpk programme, can i apply for gov housing loan (as im working in bank negara)

As i posted this out on 31st dec, which means i really want to start a new life, financial freedom.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes you should.

Don't wait anymore, hurry call and make appointment.


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I'm beginning to collect information as I will be settling my AKPK soon, so I went to Bank Negara to check my CCRIS. I found a couple of banks didn't put AKPK remarks to my accounts but there are no arrears reported so that's fine. However, my personal loan with CIMB not only not under AKPK, but it is in arrears of 15 months! I know they received payments from AKPK as the balance is much lower than it was before I enrolled.

Anybody have this experience? Why do this happen? Once I settle my AKPK my new loan application later will be very difficult with this kind of record. Any advice?
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QUOTE(ms.s @ Dec 31 2012, 01:05 PM)
hi, i just registered to this forum just to post this out.
I am 22 yrs old and currently working at bank negara. income 2200
the problem is currently I have these debts :

Car loan : RM390/ month

Personal Loans :
Bank Rakyat RM15k
Bank Islam RM24k
RHB 5k
Previous company koperasi RM16k

these are excluding interest.

I've missed to pay all loans for 5 months, except car loan.
I think i am in serious trouble and about to seek AKPK for helps.

These loans are due to my immature behavior, starting my first job at 21, spending a lot on shopping, entertainment and try to start a business which going nothing...Im still young and i am worried as i have a long journey to go.

Shud i go for akpk?
If i am in akpk programme, can i apply for gov housing loan (as im working in bank negara)

As i posted this out on 31st dec, which means i really want to start a new life, financial freedom.
Thanks in advance.
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omg, not sure how you manage to apply 24k loan when your salary is just below 2200.
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do we need to bring any document for printing our CCRIS report?
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Hi. Anyone knows what will happen once we fully settled the debt in AKPK and released from the programme? ANyone knows if those who finish their AKPK can get credit card or loan? I just finished my settlement and need to know whether its possible or not
Can. I fully settle my AKPK 3 years earlier back in Nov 2010. I got my credit card and car loan approved Feb 2011. Got my housing loan approved April 2011.
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QUOTE(ms.s @ Dec 31 2012, 01:05 PM)
hi, i just registered to this forum just to post this out.
I am 22 yrs old and currently working at bank negara. income 2200
the problem is currently I have these debts :

Car loan : RM390/ month

Personal Loans :
Bank Rakyat RM15k
Bank Islam RM24k
RHB 5k
Previous company koperasi RM16k

these are excluding interest.

I've missed to pay all loans for 5 months, except car loan.
I think i am in serious trouble and about to seek AKPK for helps.

These loans are due to my immature behavior, starting my first job at 21, spending a lot on shopping, entertainment and try to start a business which going nothing...Im still young and i am worried as i have a long journey to go.

Shud i go for akpk?
If i am in akpk programme, can i apply for gov housing loan (as im working in bank negara)

As i posted this out on 31st dec, which means i really want to start a new life, financial freedom.
Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(ms.s @ Dec 31 2012, 01:05 PM)
hi, i just registered to this forum just to post this out.
I am 22 yrs old and currently working at bank negara. income 2200
the problem is currently I have these debts :

Car loan : RM390/ month

Personal Loans :
Bank Rakyat RM15k
Bank Islam RM24k
RHB 5k
Previous company koperasi RM16k

these are excluding interest.

I've missed to pay all loans for 5 months, except car loan.
I think i am in serious trouble and about to seek AKPK for helps.

These loans are due to my immature behavior, starting my first job at 21, spending a lot on shopping, entertainment and try to start a business which going nothing...Im still young and i am worried as i have a long journey to go.

Shud i go for akpk?
If i am in akpk programme, can i apply for gov housing loan (as im working in bank negara)

As i posted this out on 31st dec, which means i really want to start a new life, financial freedom.
Thanks in advance.
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bro seen help from family member first,i got help from my father to settle it,u really need fast go to AKPK plan,btw dot use anymore future money on credit card.
Good luck.

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if anyone got debt problem with cc and pl please hurry go make an appointment with AKPK
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Wat happen if we 1 month cant pay akpk?
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Dear all bros...Need your strong advise on this matter URGENTLY...

If I got a housing loan (property haven't complete), can I apply for AKPK?

This is because the house was sponsored from my dad...but he put under my name.

But now I'm in deep shit with personal loan and credit cards debts...

Can I tell AKPK that the house is bought from my dad (not me, he will help to pay installment also) and can I still apply for AKPK to help me on my personal debts ???

I plan to sell it once it is completed, with the profit I can settle all my outstanding loans now...most probably next year....

PLS ADVISE, ALL BROS!
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QUOTE(Little Fella @ Feb 7 2013, 03:12 PM)
Dear all bros...Need your strong advise on this matter URGENTLY...

If I got a housing loan (property haven't complete), can I apply for AKPK?

This is because the house was sponsored from my dad...but he put under my name.

But now I'm in deep shit with personal loan and credit cards debts...

Can I tell AKPK that the house is bought from my dad (not me, he will help to pay installment also) and can I still apply for AKPK to help me on my personal debts ???

I plan to sell it once it is completed, with the profit I can settle all my outstanding loans now...most probably next year....

PLS ADVISE, ALL BROS!
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Car loan and house loan akpk wont help.only u lelong your car or house then the balance u owe bank only akpk will help
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QUOTE(Little Fella @ Feb 7 2013, 03:12 PM)
Dear all bros...Need your strong advise on this matter URGENTLY...

If I got a housing loan (property haven't complete), can I apply for AKPK?

This is because the house was sponsored from my dad...but he put under my name.

But now I'm in deep shit with personal loan and credit cards debts...

Can I tell AKPK that the house is bought from my dad (not me, he will help to pay installment also) and can I still apply for AKPK to help me on my personal debts ???

I plan to sell it once it is completed, with the profit I can settle all my outstanding loans now...most probably next year....

PLS ADVISE, ALL BROS!
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Once you have shared all the loans you have, you are free to choose which loans you wish AKPK to help you with.

If AKPK can help you with personal loans, and the easing on your pocket allows you to continue paying for your house/car then that's fine.
Bottom line, if your debt is piling and you are facing $ collapse go ahead and approach AKPK. They can advise you and you are free to decline.

A warning though: They may not be as 'helpful' until you show sincere signs of wanting help yourself ... like making an effort to make sure all your documents are in check.
From my experience, once they see you are genuine, they become very happy to help.

I don't blame them for this attitude.
From what I have seen, some people just attend the required briefing, then come to the office empty handed just saying "I owe $$$ so what can you do to help me??!" like the world owes something to them for the silly predicament they are in.

It is really about helping yourself.

I have gone thru this personally and speaking from experience. My scenario was similar to you: some personal loans, while servicing a house loan of my own.
Almost done paying back all of it (about 1 year to go) ... and I learned A LOT about managing my $$$ in the process smile.gif

Its not a waste of time.

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Once you have shared all the loans you have, you are free to choose which loans you wish AKPK to help you with.

If AKPK can help you with personal loans, and the easing on your pocket allows you to continue paying for your house/car then that's fine.
Bottom line, if your debt is piling and you are facing $ collapse go ahead and approach AKPK. They can advise you and you are free to decline.

A warning though: They may not be as 'helpful' until you show sincere signs of wanting help yourself ... like making an effort to make sure all your documents are in check.
From my experience, once they see you are genuine, they become very happy to help.

I don't blame them for this attitude.
From what I have seen, some people just attend the required briefing, then come to the office empty handed just saying "I owe $$$ so what can you do to help me??!" like the world owes something to them for the silly predicament they are in.

It is really about helping yourself.

I have gone thru this personally and speaking from experience. My scenario was similar to you: some personal loans, while servicing a house loan of my own.
Almost done paying back all of it (about 1 year to go) ... and I learned A LOT about managing my $$$ in the process smile.gif

Its not a waste of time.

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Hi Guys,

i am going to take Housing loan and the bank need someone to be joint account partner, and my fiancé is under AKPK so is she able to become my housing loan joint account partner? Need some advice ><
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Went already today...talked to a Malay lady, Cik Liz.

She managed to give me a proposal with progressive payments for 10-years.

For an approximately RM140,000 debt, I have to pay RM1,200 for the first two years, then increases after that.

I think this is the last option for me and I'm happy for this finally...
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Can a retiree age 58 years old enrol in AKPK if he got single credit card owe RM25k? And still earn some additional income declared in AKPK form? Can he get the max tenure till 10 years repayment ? Or need to provide guarantor to pay for him? Will guarantor's name be listed in AKPK programe, thus reduce chance of guarantor to get loan facilities while this retiree still in AKPK programme?
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hi guys need your help here. I'm currently work in an oversea bank and thinking to take akpk, would it affect my confirmation or will the bank terminate me if they found out that i'm in akpk ? many thanks =)
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I'm in AKPK program 2 months ago.

I understand from AKPK that the banks will issue letter confirming the details of my installment.

However, I have yet to received any.

Could anyone post a sample of such letter so I could plan my budget for the next years ?
I'm really desperate here. Thank you
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QUOTE(Little Fella @ Mar 5 2013, 06:13 PM)
Went already today...talked to a Malay lady, Cik Liz.

She managed to give me a proposal with progressive payments for 10-years.

For an approximately RM140,000 debt, I have to pay RM1,200 for the first two years, then increases after that.

I think this is the last option for me and I'm happy for this finally...
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rclxms.gif good and hopefully you can manage to get through your financial crisis with AKPK help


QUOTE(shirokeen @ Mar 20 2013, 10:10 PM)
Can a retiree age 58 years old enrol in AKPK if he got single credit card owe RM25k? And still earn some additional income declared in AKPK form? Can he get the max tenure till 10 years repayment ? Or need to provide guarantor to pay for him? Will guarantor's name be listed in AKPK programe, thus reduce chance of guarantor to get loan facilities while this retiree still in AKPK programme?
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i don't think akpk got age limit so feel free to make appointment with akpk .
you will automatically get 10 years repayment once you accepted by the akpk
you don't have to provide any guarantor thumbup.gif

QUOTE(hardworkingboy @ Mar 21 2013, 02:19 AM)
hi guys need your help here. I'm currently work in an oversea bank and thinking to take akpk, would it affect my confirmation or will the bank terminate me if they found out that i'm in akpk ? many thanks  =)
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QUOTE(mysoo @ Mar 24 2013, 01:44 PM)
I'm in AKPK program 2 months ago.

I understand from AKPK that the banks will issue letter confirming the details of my installment.

However, I have yet to received any.

Could anyone post a sample of such letter so I could plan my budget for the next years ?
I'm really  desperate here. Thank you
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don't worry, you will receive the letter in time thumbup.gif

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Thank you bro. But would they confirm me as permanent staff if my performance is up to the par. Not trying to doubt you bro, just want to know how you get the info. T
Many thanks biggrin.gif
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Thank you bro. But would they confirm me as permanent staff if my performance is up to the par. Not trying to doubt you bro, just want to know how you get the info. T
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i worked in bank before that's y know nod.gif

just don't worry, akpk won't affect you unless you are in bankruptcy sweat.gif
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did akpk open on saturday?
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did akpk open on saturday?
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If u 1 month fail to pay repayment to akpk they will terminate your account or sent u a letter 1st?
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If u 1 month fail to pay repayment to akpk they will terminate your account or sent u a letter 1st?
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No, they won't but i think they will sent a letter or call to remind you.

But if 2 months fail to pay, they will automatically terminate your account sweat.gif
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No, they won't but i think they will sent a letter or call to remind you.

But if 2 months fail to pay, they will automatically terminate your account  sweat.gif
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How if we pay less than wat we should pay?juz for 2-3 month.but we still paying half of the amount
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How if we pay less than wat we should pay?juz for 2-3 month.but we still paying half of the amount
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No, you have to pay the exactly amount that been agreed. You can pay more but you can't pay less sweat.gif
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No, you have to pay the exactly amount that been agreed. You can pay more but you can't pay less  sweat.gif
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Coz this 2 month got some problem.need to told them?
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Coz this 2 month got some problem.need to told them?
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Hi all,

Need your advice.

My friends owed few banks amounted to 60k ranging from overdraft, CC and personal loan.

Each amount varies from as small as 1.5k till 20k.

My question is; can my friend negotiate with bank to pay off remaining balance provided he have a chunk of money in hand?

E.G:

Debt balance A: RM1.5K

Debt balance B: RM3K

Debt balance C: RM20K

To what extend the offset amount can be discounted off through negotiation with bank? If yes; what department in bank can he look for for these negotiation?

Btw; he is already on AKPK monthly repayment scheme but I suggested that even with AKPK; those bank interest rates are kind killing the initial sum repayment off.

Thanks for you help.

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QUOTE(sykz @ May 18 2013, 01:19 PM)
Hi all,

Need your advice.

My friends owed few banks amounted to 60k ranging from overdraft, CC and personal loan.

Each amount varies from as small as 1.5k till 20k.

My question is; can my friend negotiate with bank to pay off remaining balance provided he have a chunk of money in hand?

E.G:

Debt balance A: RM1.5K

Debt balance B: RM3K

Debt balance C: RM20K

To what extend the offset amount can be discounted off through negotiation with bank? If yes; what department in bank can he look for for these negotiation?

Btw; he is already on AKPK monthly repayment scheme but I suggested that even with AKPK; those bank interest rates are kind killing the initial sum repayment off.

Thanks for you help.
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Not sure since each bank got their own discounted rate.

Just call the customer service and explain you want clear your debt earlier.

For sure if your fren plan to settle it off earlier, the bank will give some discounted rate.


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hi guys im a student doing an assignment on debt management,
i was wondering if i were to enroll into akpk, how would they restructure my cashflow. can i know what will they do exactly?
if i were to have a 10k credit card debt and 18% interest rate p.a charged on a monthly basis. rm3300 salary and after deductions its rm2640, car hire is 525 and rental is 650, day to day living expense is 900.
if you are able to help me find out what can akpk do with these figures i will be very grateful thank you in advance! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(fuji3333 @ Jun 9 2013, 01:09 PM)
hi guys im a student doing an assignment on debt management,
i was wondering if i were to enroll into akpk, how would they restructure my cashflow. can i know what will they do exactly?
if i were to have a 10k credit card debt and 18% interest rate p.a charged on a monthly basis. rm3300 salary and after deductions its rm2640, car hire is 525 and rental is 650, day to day living expense is 900.
if you are able to help me find out what can akpk do with these figures i will be very grateful  thank you in advance! biggrin.gif
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They got their own calculation sweat.gif

No one will know how much they restructure your debt but normally the interest rate will be between 8-9%

Hope this info help you thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(fuji3333 @ Jun 9 2013, 01:09 PM)
hi guys im a student doing an assignment on debt management,
i was wondering if i were to enroll into akpk, how would they restructure my cashflow. can i know what will they do exactly?
if i were to have a 10k credit card debt and 18% interest rate p.a charged on a monthly basis. rm3300 salary and after deductions its rm2640, car hire is 525 and rental is 650, day to day living expense is 900.
if you are able to help me find out what can akpk do with these figures i will be very grateful  thank you in advance! biggrin.gif
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Pls contact the agency telling them your intention to know further. I believe they will gladly help. They do conduct roadshows every now and then.
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Hope someone here can help. If someone dies with debts (example: credit card and personal loan) and he/she has no asset, does the family member (spouse/children) need to bear the debts? Since unsecured loan like credit card and personal loan don have any guarantor or collateral..

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Hope someone here can help. If someone dies with debts (example: credit card and personal loan) and he/she has no asset, does the family member (spouse/children) need to bear the debts? Since unsecured loan like credit card and personal loan don have any guarantor or collateral..
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Hi guys, currently owing credit card with personal loans amount to 50k

Credit card 25k
Personal loan 22k

Monthly fixed income abt 4k, with total amount min payment I can't meet it..
I am currently thinking to repay it for credit card first, then follow by personal loan.. means stop paying personal loan in the mean time..

Will there by any issue from the as for the personal loan? or should just go for akpk instead?
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QUOTE(Leon|| @ Jul 2 2013, 05:56 PM)
Hi guys, currently owing credit card with personal loans amount to 50k

Credit card 25k
Personal loan 22k

Monthly fixed income abt 4k, with total amount min payment I can't meet it..
I am currently thinking to repay it for credit card first, then follow by personal loan.. means stop paying personal loan in the mean time..

Will there by any issue from the as for the personal loan? or should just go for akpk instead?
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QUOTE(kwaiharn @ Jun 16 2013, 12:32 AM)
Hope someone here can help. If someone dies with debts (example: credit card and personal loan) and he/she has no asset, does the family member (spouse/children) need to bear the debts? Since unsecured loan like credit card and personal loan don have any guarantor or collateral..
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if not mistaken, some credit cards force people to take insurance so that if anything happen to you.. the insurance will auto pay off all your debt.
so based on this understanding, yes the family members need to continue pay the debt.
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QUOTE(navink @ Jul 4 2013, 04:08 PM)
if not mistaken, some credit cards force people to take insurance so that if anything happen to you.. the insurance will auto pay off all your debt.
so based on this understanding, yes the family members need to continue pay the debt.
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I think it's offered under islamic banking if not mistaken (please correct me if i m wrong sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(yuen1985 @ Jul 4 2013, 10:56 PM)
I think it's offered under islamic banking if not mistaken (please correct me if i m wrong  sweat.gif )
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Mine under citibank..

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any1 settle early ? can share how ur experience ? im in progress to clear all. need to call up individual banks collection center in KL. None of banks i contacted , offer any discount. damn
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any1 settle early ? can share how ur experience ? im in progress to clear all. need to call up individual banks collection center in KL. None of banks i contacted , offer any discount. damn
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You can ask bank for discount for early settlement. I just settle all my account in June 2013.

All bank given me discounts, citibank, maybank, RHB, Ambank.........EXCEPT HSBC, you won't even get a cents of discount.

You just need to make a call to them to ask for it.

Good luck.
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Anyone here successful apply housing loan, credit card, personal after quit from AKPK program.
Please share..thanks
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QUOTE(kwaiharn @ Jun 16 2013, 12:32 AM)
Hope someone here can help. If someone dies with debts (example: credit card and personal loan) and he/she has no asset, does the family member (spouse/children) need to bear the debts? Since unsecured loan like credit card and personal loan don have any guarantor or collateral..
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I'm also having similar question regarding to these. my late father also has debts (personal loan) but he didn't tell us while he still alive. yesterday we receives a notice letter from bank, and it was a final notice. the 1st and 2nd letter was dumped away by my mum as she thought it was a chain letter (surat berantai) from those 'get rich quick schemes' syndicates. the bank even has called us several times that causing my mom feared to pick the phone. so does our family members have to pay my late father's debt in behalf?
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Im having an urgent issue here.
I just received a call this morning from Maybank, they want to issue a summon for if i couldnt clear it within later in the day.
My CC still have 4.8k outstanding, they already sent it to lawyer, if i couldnt paid i will receive a lawyer letter and i need to paid extra 3500 + 4800 = 8500.
I already contact person in charge with my case and they said no discussion at all, just paid the outstanding within today or receive lawyer letter.

Please sent me advise or any consultant can help me in my case.
Your help will be highly appreciated.
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Im having an urgent issue here.
I just received a call this morning from Maybank, they want to issue a summon for if i couldnt clear it within later in the day.
My CC still have 4.8k outstanding, they already sent it to lawyer, if i couldnt paid i will receive a lawyer letter and i need to paid extra 3500 + 4800 = 8500.
I already contact person in charge with my case and they said no discussion at all, just paid the outstanding within today or receive lawyer letter.

Please sent me advise or any consultant can help me in my case.
Your help will be highly appreciated.
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If you case already serious till legal action, better for you to go borrow money from your family and relatives to settle it. AKPK won't save you when come to this stage and it takes 2-3 months time to settle down with AKPK.

As for reference to others, go to AKPK unless you have really no choice. If small amount better don't go........
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hello there... ^^ would like to let all of you know that if there are questions about AKPK, you can ask me as I work with AKPK... any questions or inquires, I'll try to answer as much as possible... cheers! smile.gif
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Hi Lil Twist,

I see u r giving very good advice on AKPK.

I only have one question & 1 concern which is

Q:Upon enrolling with AKPK, our personal info will be exposed to the banks/banks debt collectors?For e.g our bank's saving/current account info,our current home/work address,etc.??
As I see on the forms I have to filled, it requires me to state which company I'm working for & my current address.

My concern at the moment is with all these info given to AKPK, it is all release to the banks/bank's debt collectors & quite honestly these ppl r exactly like Ah Longs with their style of collecting back cc repayments for the banks except for using red paints & threatening lives.I'd experiences whereby they kept harrassing me with calls & shouting at me on the phone & at my workplace & refused any negotiations on repayments except "PAY ALL! By tomorrow!" Even though I had been paying little by little.

Due to the horror I'd been through,I'd swore upon my life I'd nvr again have anything to do with banks,except for a saving account for salary payout purpose.I'll never buy a house or have a hire purchase loan for a car.Everthing had been strictly on cash for years now.I'm not running from settling the debts,I just want to settle my debts in peace. If they keep disturbing me at work & I loose my job,how am I supposed to repay them?? To me these banks are licensed Ah Longs...To all that is reading my post,avoid any loans,cc offers by the banks. I had been stopping my loved ones from taking any loans,cc offers as well as cancelling their ccs as well. When u default on ur payment, they come after u like Ah Longs.

So hope you are able to answer my question.

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QUOTE(lena redmoon @ Jul 19 2013, 04:31 PM)
I'm also having similar question regarding to these. my late father also has debts (personal loan) but he didn't tell us while he still alive. yesterday we receives a notice letter from bank, and it was a final notice. the 1st and 2nd letter was dumped away by my mum as she thought it was a chain letter (surat berantai) from those 'get rich quick schemes' syndicates. the bank even has called us several times that causing my mom feared to pick the phone. so does our family members have to pay my late father's debt in behalf?
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Tell them if they continue to "harass" then you will complain to BNM. They have no right to go after families or relatives, but they can go after your father's estate.

QUOTE(busted @ Jul 22 2013, 01:13 PM)
Im having an urgent issue here.
I just received a call this morning from Maybank, they want to issue a summon for if i couldnt clear it within later in the day.
My CC still have 4.8k outstanding, they already sent it to lawyer, if i couldnt paid i will receive a lawyer letter and i need to paid extra 3500 + 4800 = 8500.
I already contact person in charge with my case and they said no discussion at all, just paid the outstanding within today or receive lawyer letter.

Please sent me advise or any consultant can help me in my case.
Your help will be highly appreciated.
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Ask them to justify the additional RM3,500. If not, you can threaten to complain to BNM. But then you are still liable for the RM4.8k you owed. you must have missed at least 3-4 payments which resulted in the "summon" issued.


QUOTE(Onitsuka71 @ Jul 25 2013, 04:57 PM)
Hi Lil Twist,

I see u r giving very good advice on AKPK.

I only have one question & 1 concern which is

Q:Upon enrolling with AKPK, our personal info will be exposed to the banks/banks debt collectors?For e.g our bank's saving/current account info,our current home/work address,etc.??
As I see on the forms I have to filled, it requires me to state which company I'm working for  & my current address.

My concern at the moment is with all these info given to AKPK, it is all release to the banks/bank's debt collectors & quite honestly these ppl r exactly like Ah Longs with their style of collecting back repayments fot the banks...I'd experiences whereby they kept harrassing me with calls & shouting at me on the phone & at my workplace & refused any negotiations on repayments except "PAY ALL! By tomorrow!" Even though I had been paying little by little.

So hope you are able to answer my question.
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Your info will remain with AKPK but the other banks will know how much debts you have elsewhere because AKPK also needs to justify to the banks why such payment plans are made. And once you enroll with AKPK and a payment plans is established, the bank generally cannot call you for collections unless you did abide the agreed payment plan.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Jul 25 2013, 09:54 PM)
Tell them if they continue to "harass" then you will complain to BNM. They have no right to go after families or relatives, but they can go after your father's estate.

Ask them to justify the additional RM3,500. If not, you can threaten to complain to BNM. But then you are still liable for the RM4.8k you owed. you must have missed at least 3-4 payments which resulted in the "summon" issued.
Your info will remain with AKPK but the other banks will know how much debts you have elsewhere because AKPK also needs to justify to the banks why such payment plans are made. And once you enroll with AKPK and a payment plans is established, the bank generally cannot call you for collections unless you did abide the agreed payment plan.
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Thanks Boon for the info....I'm glad to hear that my personal info will be safe with AKPK.I really do not mind if the banks know my total debts. Besides Like wat I said...I swore I'll nvr again have anything to do with the banks except for the 1 saving account for my salary payout & I had kept it that way for yrs..learning frm the horror I've been through.I just do not want my personal info to be disclosed out to these "Licensed Ah Longs" to enable them to come harass me at home,at work calling every 2 hours just to say "Pay Now!".I just want to settle my debts in peace. But also through my learning experienced somehow from somewhere ppl will alwiz be the weakest link & will end up disclosing some info to these "Licensed Ah Longs"...I hope AKPK wld be better than that...

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QUOTE(firstglobal @ Jul 13 2013, 10:17 PM)
You can ask bank for discount for early settlement. I just settle all my account in June 2013.

All bank given me discounts, citibank, maybank, RHB, Ambank.........EXCEPT HSBC, you won't even get a cents of discount.

You just need to make a call to them to ask for it.

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may i know which department should i call for discount? thanks


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may i know which department should i call for discount? thanks
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Hi there, need some help here, i have enrolled with akpk for almost a year. I finally got a stable job now and im planning to settle my CC debt first as i heard it can give me sort of waiver if i can make full settlement. Ive been wondering how low can they give me on the waiver.

Let say my owing them 3k plus interest now becoming 11k, will they accept if i settle it at 5k..?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(lena redmoon @ Jul 19 2013, 04:31 PM)
I'm also having similar question regarding to these. my late father also has debts (personal loan) but he didn't tell us while he still alive. yesterday we receives a notice letter from bank, and it was a final notice. the 1st and 2nd letter was dumped away by my mum as she thought it was a chain letter (surat berantai) from those 'get rich quick schemes' syndicates. the bank even has called us several times that causing my mom feared to pick the phone. so does our family members have to pay my late father's debt in behalf?
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Hi there, im just trying to help..im a takaful consultant and we have a financial planning course for this call estate management, according to malaysian law, any unsettled debt from the deceased will remained unsettled unless the deceased have some assets that can liquid to paid off the debt..to clarify please google Probate Act or Akta probate. FYI, anyone who passed away...thier banks accounts will be freeze within a month or two for debt settlement. And this where estate planning coming in, i.e will, insurance or takaful...will eased the family burden in paying up the debt.

Same goes with business partnership..but that is another story. shakehead.gif

Anyway, you need to find out if your late father left any savings at the banks or check with Amanah Raya if this a very case because that where the monies goes too if unclaimed. Over there maybe they will advice you on what you should do next.

If im not mistaken, you need to get a lawyer as well should your family wanted to claimed the asset.

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QUOTE(firstglobal @ Jul 13 2013, 10:17 PM)
You can ask bank for discount for early settlement. I just settle all my account in June 2013.

All bank given me discounts, citibank, maybank, RHB, Ambank.........EXCEPT HSBC, you won't even get a cents of discount.

You just need to make a call to them to ask for it.

Good luck.
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Hi..may i know i u refering to wat loan??
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Dear all,

I settled all my AKPK debts in Jun 2013. I started to apply for credit cards to a few bank, some I never hold their credit cards, and it was still rejected my application? any one know why? I have check my CRISS record, it is clean, and only one home loan I am still serving.....

Some bank even directly decline my application online after click submission? Why is that so hard to apply credit card after AKPK life? Any AKPK officer here to advise?

Any good opinion how to get a credit card after AKPK full settled?

Please advise if any of you working at bank evaluating credit card application. What are the procedures and what can I do to make bank feel good with me? put in fixed deposit?

appreciate any good advices if you have.....

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Hi ALL,

1. Anyone here been under AKPK before and managed to get apply new Credit Card or Housing Loan?

2. Any banker here was successful help your client/customers who been under AKPK before to apply credit card/housing?

Please share.
Thanks all.
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QUOTE(firstglobal @ Aug 5 2013, 11:00 PM)
Dear all,

I settled all my AKPK debts in Jun 2013. I started to apply for credit cards to a few bank, some I never hold their credit cards, and it was still rejected my application? any one know why? I have check my CRISS record, it is clean, and only one home loan I am still serving.....

Some bank even directly decline my application online after click submission? Why is that so hard to apply credit card after AKPK life? Any AKPK officer here to advise?

Any good opinion how to get a credit card after AKPK full settled?

Please advise if any of you working at bank evaluating credit card application. What are the procedures and what can I do to make bank feel good with me? put in fixed deposit?

appreciate any good advices if you have.....
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All bank have joint "database" on who was once a VVIP AKPK.

You as good as signing your death warrant for further CC or loans even though you have settle the debt early.

Why the need for creditcard again or loans since you are flushed with cash at this moments?
Save it and Live Life without Credit headache.

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not that simple....
if Credit card also failed then mostly housing loan also will get rejected.
Property price is so high now..if without housing loan how can we buy the house with cash???
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 21 2013, 05:36 PM)
All bank have joint "database" on who was once a VVIP AKPK.

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Pls enlighten me on that?!.....i.e. the "joint database".

If the underwriting person suspect something amiss, the unspoken practice is they will try to check with their contacts in different banks - verbally (no written confirmation) since it is against BAFIA. Else, what other "joint database" you were talking about since there is no "joint database" besides BNM mandated credit repository, i.e. CCRIS?? rclxub.gif

Especially when we are talking about consumer business which is mass market. So would they have the time to check every single applications with their other contacts in other banks?!... If Fraud then there is a "shared" information among the banks anti fraud unit.

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QUOTE(b00n @ Aug 23 2013, 03:41 AM)
Pls enlighten me on that?!.....i.e. the "joint database".

If the underwriting person suspect something amiss, the unspoken practice is they will try to check with their contacts in different banks - verbally (no written confirmation) since it is against BAFIA. Else, what other "joint database" you were talking about since there is no "joint database" besides BNM mandated credit repository, i.e. CCRIS??  rclxub.gif

Especially when we are talking about consumer business which is mass market. So would they have the time to check every single applications with their other contacts in other banks?!... If Fraud then there is a "shared" information among the banks anti fraud unit.
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from what i understand from my banker friend (upper level management) (UOB,OCBC),
all banks have such system to eradicate those "high risk" loaner or "convicted" felons (hahaha)....etc

Ex-AKPK will hard time getting whatever CC or loans approved.
But,It is still possible provided you have "strong cable" inside those banks.

Tell me, how many of us have a "strong connection" to insider of any banks?

Anyway, Cash is King.



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QUOTE(JScomp @ Aug 21 2013, 07:49 PM)
not that simple....
if Credit card also failed then mostly housing loan also will get rejected.
Property price is so high now..if without housing loan how can we buy the house with cash???
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buy using your sons/daugthers/wives name lo.
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look for reasonable property price then.

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QUOTE(firstglobal @ Aug 5 2013, 11:00 PM)
Dear all,

I settled all my AKPK debts in Jun 2013. I started to apply for credit cards to a few bank, some I never hold their credit cards, and it was still rejected my application? any one know why? I have check my CRISS record, it is clean, and only one home loan I am still serving.....

Some bank even directly decline my application online after click submission? Why is that so hard to apply credit card after AKPK life? Any AKPK officer here to advise?

Any good opinion how to get a credit card after AKPK full settled?

Please advise if any of you working at bank evaluating credit card application. What are the procedures and what can I do to make bank feel good with me? put in fixed deposit?

appreciate any good advices if you have.....
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QUOTE(JScomp @ Aug 20 2013, 10:58 PM)
Hi ALL,

1. Anyone here been under AKPK before and managed to get apply new Credit Card or Housing Loan?

2. Any banker here was successful help your client/customers who been under AKPK before to apply credit card/housing?

Please share.
Thanks all.
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I was with AKPK ffor 3 years from 2008 to 2010. I settled all the outstanding and quit from DMP Oct 2010. I managed to get my car loan 35k on January 2011. On Feb I got my OCBC credit card approved. Subsequent I got my Maybank and CIMB credit card approved April 2011. Upgraded my CIMB card to Signature on June 2012.

Got my 2nd car loan 120k on June 2012 and 2 housing loans this year.

When I with DMP, my CCRIS is clean for those housing loans. All prompted payment with excess payments.

Hope this can clear those doubts.
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 23 2013, 11:09 AM)
from what i understand from my banker friend (upper level management) (UOB,OCBC),
all banks have such system to eradicate those "high risk" loaner or "convicted" felons (hahaha)....etc

Ex-AKPK will hard time getting whatever CC or loans approved.
But,It is still possible provided you have "strong cable" inside those banks.

Tell me, how many of us have a "strong connection" to insider of any banks?

Anyway, Cash is King.
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"system" your friend mentions =/= database as such database does not exist.
"system" in this sense is their underwriting criteria. Say for example, if you are a loan officer, and you are processing an applicant which have decent job of the age of 35. Then when you assess his CCRIS to assess his debts and repyment history on other credit facilities, suddenly you see he got nothing in CCRIS. Would that trigger you to probe further??

But then again if you are someone of a younger age, say 22 or 23; that criteria might not exist since you have just graduated.
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QUOTE(adreina @ Aug 23 2013, 04:39 PM)
I was with AKPK ffor 3 years from 2008 to 2010. I settled all the outstanding and quit from DMP Oct 2010. I managed to get my car loan 35k on January 2011. On Feb I got my OCBC credit card approved. Subsequent I got my Maybank and CIMB credit card approved April 2011. Upgraded my CIMB card to Signature on June 2012.

Got my 2nd car loan 120k on June 2012 and 2 housing loans this year.

When I with DMP, my CCRIS is clean for those housing loans. All prompted payment with excess payments.

Hope this can clear those doubts.
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Hi Adreina,
Thanks for your replied.
Mean without insider connection, to get new cc or housing loan is possible.
at least someone have gave their positive feedback here..thx
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 23 2013, 11:09 AM)
from what i understand from my banker friend (upper level management) (UOB,OCBC),
all banks have such system to eradicate those "high risk" loaner or "convicted" felons (hahaha)....etc

Ex-AKPK will hard time getting whatever CC or loans approved.
But,It is still possible provided you have "strong cable" inside those banks.

Tell me, how many of us have a "strong connection" to insider of any banks?

Anyway, Cash is King.
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Please check the facts before you spoke.

R u an ex akpk? Or you speak with your real case story?

My brother had paid off all the debts n exited akpk few years back. And now he got 2 credit cards n 3 home loans n he got no cable or connection inside any bank.
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 26 2013, 01:37 PM)
Please check the facts before you spoke.

R u an ex akpk? Or you speak with your real case story?

My brother had paid off all the debts n exited akpk few years back. And now he got 2 credit cards n 3 home loans n he got no cable or connection inside any bank.
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Excuse me, this is what i gather.
i just state as what i know.

There might be some who managed to get CC either thru other avenues...like Home Loan usually come with CC offer or like Public Mutual Gold also offer CC as well.
What i mean cable or connection is sometimes your bro friends or relative might know someone inside the bank or approval dept.




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