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post Jun 24 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(abc_fortune @ Jun 23 2011, 08:45 PM)
Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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How about sell your house and may be you can get back some $$ to offset part of your credit card debts. Also your monthly repayment of the house will be gone. Rent a room temporary which may only cost you few hunderds. If you rent a room nearby to your job place, then, sell your car also. This will further save you the installment. Take public transport and although is not so convinience, but what to do. If your horse die, you have to resort to walk until u r able to get another hourse again.

If not, you will be dragging your problem and i believe your hole will become even bigger. Your will and determination to settle it will become thinner and thinner. Trust me, i have a friend facing same problem like you and he ding dong here and there. End up, missing liao, which is the worst thing to happen.

If you can get a help from your parents, you can use it to cover all your credit cards outstanding as the interest is killing. At least your parent may not chase you payment every month. Be frank to them and you want to solve your problem. Else, AKPK will be the next step, but i doubt your case they will accept as you only earn 4k per month and some more not stable. They will advise you to sell your house or car too in order to make you eligible. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(abc_fortune @ Jun 23 2011, 08:45 PM)
Hi, I really need some valuable advise here.

Well, I am so in debts. I have personal loans and credit cards outstanding amount of RM 70K. Monthly installment for all these is around RM 2.5 K.

This is really killing me as on top of that I need to pay RM 1.2 K for housing loan and RM 500 for car loan. Not to mention I need to pay back my brother RM 1.2K for borrowing me money too.

All these summed up to RM 5.4 K per month. I am only earning of average of RM 4 K per month (it depends on sales).

Well, all I need is to be able to sustain all these as I am really working hard to clear off my debts.

1. Do you think AKPK will accept my case ?
2. Do you think they are able to at least bring down my RM 2.5 K installment to RM 250 or lower ?
3. Any help with my car or house loans ?

Well, I work in a bank and hence I have a bank discount rate for my loans. I am afraid if I go to AKPK, bank will terminate my employment for my bad debts management. I can't afford to loose my job now ! Pls pls advice..
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How about sell your house and may be you can get back some $$ to offset part of your credit card debts. Also your monthly repayment of the house will be gone. Rent a room temporary which may only cost you few hunderds. If you rent a room nearby to your job place, then, sell your car also. This will further save you the installment. Take public transport and although is not so convinience, but what to do. If your horse die, you have to resort to walk until u r able to get another hourse again.

If not, you will be dragging your problem and i believe your hole will become even bigger. Your will and determination to settle it will become thinner and thinner. Trust me, i have a friend facing same problem like you and he ding dong here and there. End up, missing liao, which is the worst thing to happen.

If you can get a help from your parents, you can use it to cover all your credit cards outstanding as the interest is killing. At least your parent may not chase you payment every month. Be frank to them and you want to solve your problem. Else, AKPK will be the next step, but i doubt your case they will accept as you only earn 4k per month and some more not stable. They will advise you to sell your house or car too in order to make you eligible. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 10:57 PM)
before this my salary RM4500 per month after the company tiba2 close because my bos want to go back to his home town(Korea) and i stuck with my debt and i finally find new job who pay me RM2700 per month..and now i cant pay much for my debt monthly....

i have problem with cc:

hong leong =RM14K
ambank=RM4K
eon bank=RM5K
Aeon credit card=RM5K
RHB =RM6k

Personal Loan
Cimb-RM16K
Aeon=RM3k

car loan
still left 6m to pay
monthly pay=RM410

My salary
RM2700

every month i have to pay

RM2534

left only RM166.00

do you think i can still enter AKPK program?do you think they will accept my application?cause i really dont have jalan already...can somebody tell me what should i do?
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How you accumulate so much debts when you have RM4,500 job? Still not enough money to spend until you have to use future money until so much until taking personal loan???? notworthy.gif

With the way your spending, whether you get RM10,000 job, you also will get into problem. Gambling habit and play woman is it? drool.gif

Your case is very susah lar....if AKPK accepts you and you are paying RM1,000 per month, how are you going to survive??? doh.gif

So, first is to examine yourself how to cut down on your bad habits or spending. Then, get AKPK to help you to restructure your loan. Every month, live like a monk for at least the first few years until you get a better job that pay you much higher $$$. But, got to watch out your spending. AKPK no give second chance. icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 5 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Jul 5 2011, 12:56 PM)
i don't have any habit like gambling and play woman like u say... use my money to pay my mother medical bill,medicine and every month.cause my mother have high blood very serious.so please dont judge me if u do not know my problem...and now when my salary half.....luckily my sister help me to take care of my mother to pay all the medical bil for right now...
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Yup, i had generalize your situation. I sincerely apologize to you if i had made a wrong judgement on you.

I know many young fellas had get into financial trouble and some are in really deep trouble. Whatever reason that they came out, it is not primary important, the most important is how they can structure a way to get out of trouble.

The way AKPK system can only work not more than 25% of the people who had seek help and really want to solve their problem. The rest only look for a way to delay their problem and thus can prolong their debts.

Many people who after get AKPK help, half way fail out. Even one of my friend who work with AKPK staffs review that AKPK can only temporarily help out and they still sees majority will fail half way thru the program.

So, for your case, if you intend to bail yourself out, you must have the determination to do so. It will be a few years program and you really need to tide thru at least for the first 2 years. After restructuring, which means most of your salary is gone into AKPK program and leave very little for you to live on, you only can take care of yourself and you will have no means to help others such as your mother sickness and etc, unless u dig into more loans and debts. Of course, you will be slightly better off if you can get a better job offer so that this will increase your cash position.

The best way you can do is try to seek job overseas and earn as much $$$ as you can thru higher paid overseas job. For a start, you can go to SIngapore, Australia, UK or whichever country that can pay you good money and earning a higher income will help you solve your debts. But you may not have a life over there as all your $$$ earn is mean for clearing debts. Dont expect to live like an expat as the $$$ earn is not for you to spend it. icon_idea.gif

Hope this helps.
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QUOTE(dunhill88 @ Nov 3 2011, 09:28 PM)
Hi all ...i have a super big finance problem right now....

Credit Card

HSBC = -20K
UOB = -15K
SCB = -43K
MBB = -15K

Total = -93k
Personal Loan

HLB = -8K
UOB= -15K
Alliance = -40k
OCBC = -40k
HSBC = -10k
EON = -45k
RHB = -56k

Total =-215k

Before im the director of Handphone shop...
so my income around 16k per month....
but i go genting play casino lose all my money....and shop already close...now im just start work with my cousin as supervisor @ 1month Rm3200 basic...

Bank Loan i have to pay around 10k everymonth....

i have no cash to pay for loan and credit card for 1~2 month...
so may i know AKPK will help me ?

now i only need pay for
Car = RM 800
Insurance = RM600
Family = RM 500
House Loan = RM 500  ( share with my brother )
So balance i only have RM800 extra per month...

anyone can give me advise ?
i really feel i have no jalan d....because i got hutang ah long 10k somemore....
should i go AKPK ? or try talk to bank ?
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Akpk will not be able to help in your case stated above. Better ask your family members to pool money for you to pay off your debts especially the ah long one. Else, either you "run road" or "bankrupcy" is the option left provided you settle the ah long's loan.

if you visit akpk, they will ask you to sell your house and sell your car, but looking at your debts, that's not enough as you only have a 3,200 income.


Added on November 8, 2011, 2:22 pm
QUOTE(potenza10 @ Oct 28 2011, 06:58 PM)
salute to u bro..how come across your mind to work part time as caddie? How much u earn per day?
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Some female caddies can really earn "money" provided they know how to seduce the rich golfers....

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post Nov 10 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(venven81 @ Nov 9 2011, 11:04 PM)
tiger, ur case does look serious. what akpk does is to nego v da various FIs on ur outstanding balance n reduce it to smaller amount so tat u cud repay ur monthly instalment for a looooong period. u now owe more than $200k n i donno how akpk cud help to reduce da monthly repayment to say $50 per FI. well u can always try talking to them n i believe they will try their best to help.
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Haha....it is not me lar...the problem is with Dunhill lar...

But seriously speaking, akpk in this case will not be able to help and they will reject the case as the applicants income is not enough to do the minimal repayment to all the financial institution plus the more urgent one is to clear the ah long's debt. Else, forever he indebted to the ah long and may be need to borrow more to pay off this one....


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QUOTE(ConnedLilFella @ Feb 6 2012, 01:27 PM)
Dear all bros,

(under DMP programme)

1) What is the longest period can AKPK give us for minimal repayment? Normally, they will stretch to 8 years and above, many be up to 15 years. But, they will decide after meeting with all the banks and the best period to clear off your debts
2) Can we pay lumsum to AKPK once we have the sufficient money? Can they calculate the interest again, if we pay lumsum, can pay lower amount? You not paying the lumpsump to Akpk, but you are paying monthly installment to AKPK and AKPK in return, distribute your installment payment to respective banks. Once you have accumulate enough money to any one of the bank, you can approach the bank and tell them to give you the final out-standing, after paying off, get a discharge letter and present this to AKPK and you will pay less installment for the next month.
3) How long will the senior consultant attend if you go for the briefing? I heard it is 1~2 months? Set an appointment and meet you. Present to them all your troubles and document. They will review your case if you still can be helped or not. If can, they will accept your case. Then, the process will take 2-3 months to nego with the bank to reduce the interest and convert all debts into a term loan.
4) Anything you can share about AKPK. Anything you want to know about AKPK, you can go to their website or visit their office and speak to the consultants there.
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like they all dont really know but give you half-cooked answer. See red above.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 7 2012, 09:37 PM)
AKPK don't meet up with the bank. They will send the bank a letter of enquiry about the customer's balance broken down into principal, interest and fees as well as any legal actions taken.
Then after consolidating all the information fom all the banks the customer is with, then they will calculate the afordability to pay by looking into the pay, monthly fix expenses etc to see how far the tenor for each repayment needed to be streched.

AKPK will even go drastic by asking customer to offload their assets for instance vehicles after accessing the affordability of the customer. But then that's advise, not compulsory.

After AKPK worked out the repayment schedule, they will send it to the respective banks. Althought it's "presumed" tht bank has the right to reject the "proposal", but behold, banks are likely to accept because in a way, they can't refuse.

Thus like I say, banks don't prefer customer going to AKPK because like I mentioned in my previous posts. Unless they really also cannot help.

Again on 1 lump sum payment, again the bank will advise customer to go back to AKPK. Because once a customer is enrolled with AKPK, banks will deal with it carefully. Upon 2 non continuous payment to AKPK, AKPK will officially "terminate" the AKPK status and the banks will continue to pursue their normal collection and legal actions. If customer is willing to pay 1 lump sum payment, AKPK will issue a "discharge". There are also cases whereby because customer no longer want to be enrolled with AKPK because it reflectes in ccris, thus they will also ask AKPK to discharge them provided AKPK had done their verification. Hardly any such cases heard yet.
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There are some errors in your post. When you made one lump sump payment, you will go direct to bank and not AKPK. If you deposit extra money into AKPK account, it took forever to them to refund you the amount. So, if you dump the lump sump amount to AKPK, it will most probably stuck in the account. You probably need to speak with the accounts department to transfer your lump sump from AKPK to the bank, but it may take many processes. But if you go to bank direct, just pay off and get a discharge letter, which is faster and more efficient? However, if i am not wrong, AKPK will ask you to go direct to deal with the bank direct for one lump sump payment instead.

If one is unable to make payment, the next choice is going thru AKPK and the bank still can recover the money. Else, you sue them bankrupt also cannot recover the money.

About the offload of assets, it is compulsory in certain sense. first the evaluate your income and versus your expenditure. If your expenditure is more than the income, then, they will ask you to cut down on certain expenditure such as car or house installment. If you not doing so or have no alternative to get extra income to cover that expenditure, AKPK will say sorry to you that they cant help you. YOu continue with your own way of settling your own debts. So, it sounds like not compulsory but it is the only way to do so.

Hope you are clear and not give half-cooked info. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 8 2012, 11:48 AM)
You misinterpreted. The bank will always ask the customer to approach AKPK in making lump sum payment. Then AKPK will officially inform the bank and discharge the customer from AKPK after evaluating customer financial condition. Customer then remit the lump sum payment direct to the bank instead of the normal payment towards AKPK.
Again like I mentioned countless times, if the bank can restructure the loan themselves they will not prefer customers approaching AKPK. However if their internal policy does not allow them to do so like mentioned; then they will advise customers to go to AKPK. But first approach the bank will not advise customer going to AKPK because 1st it hampers their collection of in-terms of profit as well as tenure.
Bank's collection action will only stop upon the 1st inquiry from AKPK regarding the said customer's loan.
If a car is necessary for one to travel to work, they will not ask to offload. They will advise to sell and get a cheaper car. Hope you do not misunderstand my statement. Thus it's not compulsory. Certain cases, yes i.e. if the guys has 2 merc, AKPK will ask him to sell off one if necessary.
Do not misinterpret what I wrote.
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Have you gone through AKPK process or speak from hear say or friend's say?

The bank will not ask the customer to go see AKPK making lump sump payment. You can direct make lump sump payment when you have the money.

If the car is necessary to travel for work, thus you cannot offload, you have to find another alternative in order to reduce your monthly commitment for expenditures. Else, AKPK cannot help to restructure your debts as you have not enough money to pay even the minimum amount of monthly installment set out, thus, it will be a failure and AKPK will reject your application. Thus, you will back to squarre one.

As for the bank, when the AKPK made an equiry to them, i not sure whether they will stop the collection or not, but one thing for sure the original high interest will still be the same before you officially signed the offer letter for a reduced-restructured AKPK loan.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Feb 8 2012, 01:51 PM)
My feedback is from internal banks collection process as well as their experience with AKPK customers. Thus it's from the bank's perspective. Which bank it is am not going to disclose.
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Then, you are coming from a hear say....my comment come from a personal experience who had gone thru the whole process -being rejected once, then, appealed, then, enrolled in the program, then, make monthly payment, then, make few times lump sump payment, then at the end, discharge from AKPK....and now back to normal - owning credit cards, getting bank loans again.....

So, who is more accurate. hmm.gif

Tell you, some banks are really dumb....when you dealing with them as most of them are young executives and dont know much more and always ask you to wait, want to refer to the boss....i have fecked them few times for dont know this, dont know that and the boss reluctant to come out......and the banks have such problem is Citibank, HSBC and SCB. They have made some blunders that when i threaten them to report to Bank Negara, only they become more serious and once i report the incident to Bank NEgara, and the BN officer also feel doh.gif and after complaining, miracle happen....all things settle very very fast, the bank officer even called me and explain that things have been done and it is not their fault actually, it is system's fault and bla bla bla..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(catchme80 @ Mar 21 2012, 10:09 PM)
Hi guys.pls help to clear my doubt.i got bad debt from few bank which currently im seeking help from akpk.the issue here is, will ths affect my job? Im worry if my employer do background check n Find out abt ths n terminate me..pls share.
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if you have bad debts from few banks....issue them a legal letter and ask them to pay up...AKPK wont help the bank..... laugh.gif

if you already in trouble, still want to worry so much...
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post Apr 13 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(MugenK20A @ Apr 13 2012, 01:47 PM)
Banks WILL reject ur loans if ur name is on AKPK. Happen to my friend 2 weeks ago.
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your friend also bodoh one.....didnt he was briefed by AKPK that he not suppose to get any new loan and credit card while under AKPK. Still want to try his luck.... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(debt2000 @ Apr 24 2012, 10:07 PM)
YES THE HONG LEONG BANK IS REALLY LOAN SHARKS!!!!!!I TOLD THEM I ALREADY UNDER AKPK AND I THINK THEY KNOW CAUSE AKPK SEND THEM LETTER AND HONG LEONG BANK SEND ME LETTER TELL ME HOW MUCH I SHOULD PAY EVERY MONTH AND EVERY MONTH I SHOULD PAY RM100.00 TO AKPK.BUT WHAT IS REALLY MAKE ME ANGRY IS THEIR CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT EVERY MONTH RM75.00 EVEN I MAKE PAYMENT TO AKPK EVERY MONTH END..BUT THEY STILL CHANGE ME LATE PAYMENT RM75.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO I THINK I WILL NEVER SETTLE MY DEBT TO THE HONG LEONG BANK IN 10 YEARS CAUSE EVERY MONTH THEIR WILL CHANGE ME THE LATE PAYMENT FEE...HMMM SO MEANS I JUST PAY TO THE BANK RM25.00 CAUSE THE OTHER RM75.00 PAY FOR LATE PAYMENT FEE...NICE DEAL RIGHT FOR HONG LEONG BANK...DAMN HONG LEONG BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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to avoid this problem, u go hong leong to pay 2 months payment in advance, like 200. this, they will not charge u late payment even akpk delays as you already have prepayment in the account. but i guess the 75 is not late payment lar...it could be interest charges.......
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QUOTE(Bluepy @ May 14 2012, 12:34 PM)
Can i know if applied for AKPK, can we keep 1 credit card for emergency case ?
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answernya ialah tidak boleh.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ms.s @ Dec 31 2012, 01:05 PM)
hi, i just registered to this forum just to post this out.
I am 22 yrs old and currently working at bank negara. income 2200
the problem is currently I have these debts :

Car loan : RM390/ month

Personal Loans :
Bank Rakyat RM15k
Bank Islam RM24k
RHB 5k
Previous company koperasi RM16k

these are excluding interest.

I've missed to pay all loans for 5 months, except car loan.
I think i am in serious trouble and about to seek AKPK for helps.

These loans are due to my immature behavior, starting my first job at 21, spending a lot on shopping, entertainment and try to start a business which going nothing...Im still young and i am worried as i have a long journey to go.

Shud i go for akpk?
If i am in akpk programme, can i apply for gov housing loan (as im working in bank negara)

As i posted this out on 31st dec, which means i really want to start a new life, financial freedom.
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omg, not sure how you manage to apply 24k loan when your salary is just below 2200.
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Aug 23 2013, 11:09 AM)
from what i understand from my banker friend (upper level management) (UOB,OCBC),
all banks have such system to eradicate those "high risk" loaner or "convicted" felons (hahaha)....etc

Ex-AKPK will hard time getting whatever CC or loans approved.
But,It is still possible provided you have "strong cable" inside those banks.

Tell me, how many of us have a "strong connection" to insider of any banks?

Anyway, Cash is King.
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Please check the facts before you spoke.

R u an ex akpk? Or you speak with your real case story?

My brother had paid off all the debts n exited akpk few years back. And now he got 2 credit cards n 3 home loans n he got no cable or connection inside any bank.
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QUOTE(Wild Ghost @ Jan 23 2015, 05:12 PM)
hi,

I already with AKPK Program Since March 2008!

But I find that my debts wasn't reducing much!!!

Just checked with CitiBank, my total debts with them when i joined AKPK Program is around RM6.5k, and told me as of today, i still have RM 3740 outstanding balance with them! Something definately not right here!

As for HLB account, AKPK is paying them late; and they are charging me late payment interest monthly! I have highlighted this to AKPK Consultant who handle my case before, he just said they can waive it when you do settlement! Question is, most of the ppls under AKPK program is already having issues with their financial, to come out from it is not easy, how to save up so much $$$ to pay off?! And you cannot selectively do settlement to the once you affort to settle for now, if you want to do settlement, you have to settle all the ban you have registered under AKPK!

Appreciate those who knows better to advice me, or correct me if I am wrong! As I am lost... I have lost faith with my AKPK Consultant!
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You can go fully settle your hong leong account n then inform akpk to take out the hong leong from your monthly repayment.

Akpk has helped u n u lost faith with them? Without akpk, do u think u r better off today or already bankrupt?

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QUOTE(cx2531 @ Dec 23 2014, 02:26 PM)
if i wan to buy hse with a person with akpk, the person joining name to apply loan with me, so do a bank will consider him and count him in?
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That person who is already in trouble n in akpk program. U think bank still ll consider him for the loan?
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QUOTE(vampirism83 @ Jan 27 2015, 08:02 PM)
If I now under AKPK and i planning do full settlement for all banks and can i ask when i can get the release letter from the bank?
If i got release letter, what can i do for next? Should i go bank negara clear the blacklist record or any way to remove my blacklist record clean?
If i now apply loan RM130k from bank buy car, bank will use how long to approve my loan? 1 week or 2 weeks or more than that? Can i get loan approve within 1 month if i settle all the loan and finish pay all. Who can let me know after i fully settle the AKPK, need to wait how long to apply loan to buy car?
Your info i really appreciate and kindly give some advise for me as well. Thanks to all.
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You can go to each bank to full settle your out standing with them n ask for the discharge letter at the same day. Collect all your discharge letter n go show to akpk n ask them to close the program. You better wait at least 2 months for safety after akpk close your file so that your ccris ll be clean from the akpk remarks. Then u can go apply loan from those banks that u have not deal with before. U can try to apply loans fromprevious bank but rejection ll be very high as they have your black record.
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QUOTE(tchinyi @ Jan 29 2015, 02:06 PM)
I have a question actually.

Usually people owe few banks money, Bank A (Rm10k), Bank B (RM20k), Bank C (RM30k) & Bank D (RM40k)
When we approach AKPK, they will sum up and tell you that your debt is RM100k in total and your monthly installment could be RM1,500
so if Bank A debt was cleared, but Bank B to D still pending, will AKPK reduce your monthly installment ? maybe from RM1500 to RM1400 ?
Do you have to inform AKPK ?
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Yes. Example above. Your monthly installment of 1500 to the 4 banks ll be 150. 300. 450 n 600. So when bank A finish settled. You can take out 150 from the 1500 n your new installment amount ll be 1350 n u need to inform akpk that u had settle with bank A n akpk ll revise your new installment amount.

 

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