URL for:
V1
V2
V3
V3a
V5
V6
V7
V8
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non job realted post, please do it at this THREAD... I WILL REPORT EVERY SINGLE 1 THAT IS NOT OBEYING THIS RULE.

Next Gathering is Coming Soon!
Where? TBA
When? TBA
For more info visit the gaythering thread here.

FAQs

Employments:
Job opportunities are still good. Those with higher education level/experience stand a better chance and command a higher starting pay. Good command of English in resume writing or interview is a huge benefit. The following are the list of available online job sites:
1. Jobstreet
2. Contact Singapore
3. Jobs Central
4. JobsDB
5. eFinancialCareers.sg

The most effective but expensive method is to do it the old fashion way. Come over to Singapore, and then extend your visa to long term. During your stay in SG, flip through the recruitment newspaper and apply for your job through the company itself. This way, you're almost guaranteed to be in front of the queue from those who applied through Jobstreet. You can also attend their interviews without any delays while you're here in SG.

Various employment passes are available to enable you to work in Singapore depending on your skills and pay. Employers will help you in the application of passes. Your job is however pending on the approval of the pass. Information of types of passes are available through MOM's website. Do not worry of what passes you get. Eventually all will allow you to work in SG. Some do fuss about it due to "status" and extra benefits (i.e: credit card and contract phone applications). Just be hardworking and move up the passes or apply directly for PR few years down the road.

All you need to know about PR application and requirements are available here: http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150

Please take note that ex Singaporean PRs who renounced their status without serving the National Service will have their job and employment pass applications greatly degraded.

For an idea of current payscales (finance), here's Morgan McKinley's Singapore Salary Guide 2011.
Robert Walters Salary Survey 2011

CPF and Taxes:
Malaysians working under employment/work passes are exempted from paying CPF. Singapore PRs have to contribute to CPF according to the rates found here: http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/C...es/ContriRa.htm

As for the complicated tax returns, i'll just provide the website so everyone can search under their own categories. http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page01.aspx?id=88

Accomodations:
HDBs everywhere! Prime and new areas should cost around SGD600 and above per room (with or without utilities). You can still find small & cramped sub-SGD400 per room in remote or rundown areas. If you can afford the luxury, apartments and condos are the way to go. SGD1000 onwards per room is the current market price. Normally comes with swimming pool and gym facilities.

Below are some useful sites:
http://www.flatsdb.com/
http://www.hdbflat.blogspot.com/
http://singapore.roomsdb.net/
http://easyroommate.com.sg/ (looks more like a dating site )
http://www.sg-house.com/
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/

Transportation:
No need to describe any further. Been compared and discussed too many times between SG and MY. In SG, you can be anywhere in the island just by using public transport. The all too convenient EZ link card can be used in both MRT and bus (even McD yeah!). For places out of reach, taxi is the answer. Don't worry, you won't get touted with expensive fares. They are a bunch of professionals with accurate meters. First entry onto cab is SGD2.80 or SGD3.00. The rest runs on meter plus any surcharges from tolls, airport surcharge or stopping period. If you are travelling in group of 4, taxi is the cheaper option on certain routes compared to others.

Coach: http://www.journeymalaysia.com/ptasingapore.htm
SBS bus maps: http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/iris3/nextbus.aspx
MRT maps: http://www.smrt.com.sg/trains/images/tn_networkmap_big.jpg
Directions: http://gothere.sg/maps or http://maps.google.com.sg/

Malaysians can drive in cars/bikes to work in SG. For SG PRs, you have to drive singapore registered vehicles. More info here: http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/ind...oring_guide.htm

Expenses:
This is very subjective depending on the spending power of different individuals. But here are the basic breakdowns on rough estimates:
1. Accoms SGD600 (varies)
2. Food SGD500 (varies)
3. Transport SGD60
4. Entertainment SGD300 (strip it off if wanna save)
5. Shopping $$$

TO CHECK FOR YOUR PR APPLICATION STATUS, KINDLY VISIT THIS LINK
https://ienquiry.ica.gov.sg/index.do


TO CHECK EP APPLICATION STATUS, VISIT THIS LINK

https://eponline.mom.gov.sg/epol/PEPOLENQM0...isplayAction.do

This post has been edited by Lester1987: Feb 10 2012, 11:17 AM

woot V10 liao!!

sometime i suspect those moderator have a dupe account,
they appear out of nowhere and close thread
they must have a dupe account participating in the forum

Checking in. V10 for 10 million! Huat ar!!!

Dont dream lar....

sure more than 10 people kena....so, 1 mil each (and i guess i am one of them)....

my friend left sg for good, got RM8k/month. In sg, he is P1 qualified with S$8k/month. He said 8k in sg is nothing, room rent already 2.5k, 2k for others. left 3.5k but cannot live like a KING.

And rm8k a month can live like a KING?

what kind of room your friend renting wor?SGD2.5k for a ROOM?

Tipu la. Those salary guide cannot be trusted one. Applicable for angmoh only.
Huat ah!!

his room is more expensive than the whole unit i rent + utilities.
must be some room a king lives in.

yeah....check out the amount of income tax he'll have to pay at the end of the year!!
lets say a flat RM8 monthly salary....per annum its RM96k
The rates are
on the first 70,000 7,125
on the next 30,000 24% 7,200
RM7,125+(26,000*24/100)=RM7,125+RM6,240==RM13,365

8k in kl also nothing, your gf will tell u the same
then again my bro 10year SIA pilot went back to fly firefly, total loss there,
maybe sometime is not about $

1st time checking-in in V10.

Any Microsoft Navision Specialist here?

water bed + extra service

He never mentioned his friend from Malaysia or return to Malaysia...you all people assume aje...May be his friend is one of "Sheik" from Qatar and now returns to work and get back USD 8k and never need to pay tax.....

He did mentioned....RM8k/month

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Added on February 3, 2012, 4:19 pmrefer to post number 6


This post has been edited by tailtwist: Feb 3 2012, 04:19 PM

yup...miss that one

may be when he get RM8k in Malaysia, he stays in his father house, so, no rental....eat also mother's food

Why are you still here? You should leave SG since all you have are complaints, dissatisfaction and friends who did so much better after leaving SG.

What kind of room rental costing S$2.5k? That could be as much as rental for whole unit of HDB 4 rooms flat. If he can't live well with S$8k in Spore, he will hardly survive with RM8k in KL. Have you lived in both locations to make a comparison on the different in cost and standard of living?

This post has been edited by wi1s0n: Feb 3 2012, 05:33 PM

Not sure I shd discuss this here or in Investment thread.

For those of you earning in SGD, can share what is your investment portfolio likes to grow your savings "safely"?
Any advise on "safe" investment, like FDs, bonds, unit trust, blue chips equity, etc etc?

Lets not talk about transfering to Msia for investment, as I beliv we've discuss that before, and it boils down to how certain you are on the excahnge rate movement and where u gonna use ur money eventually. I'm discussing about invest / building the money in SGD for future SGD use.

What I know is, blue chip stocks are pretty okay, provided you choose the safe ones and go in at the reasonable price. i guess 4% dividend yield is pretty decent in SG. But lets not put all eggs in one basket, cos it would look more coloful with diff types basket? no?

Im not sure about FD rates, but i heard it's less than 1%, probably 0.5%? Anyone knows?

Hows the unit trust market here or the bond market?

Lets not discuss about property as well, as that's a big item, unless ur talking about REITs. Any recomendation?

If you guys feel this discussion is too wide to be put here, I can creat a new thread for Working in SIngapore: Investments Options, under the Investment thread.

@Aloong > That sort of detailed discussion probably belongs in Finance/Biz/Investment House section not really in J&C

If you're residing in Singaporea but not rich enough to have your wealth managed by a professional, your NUMBER 1 investment is property by a country mile. Anything else is not worth mentioning. Might as well simply buy SGX ETFs and accumulate. Whatever else available to you to invest in (ie. retail stuff) won't stray far from that in terms of risk and return.

This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 3 2012, 08:23 PM

So far they are charging me $2 per mth cuz my account left $10 inside. If your savings below 500, they will charge $2 per month. Who told you they charge $2 per day?

Hi, quick question i'm dropping in here on my gfs behalf. She's working right now in HR in KL getting around RM2.4k/month as a HR exec for around 1.5 years. Recently she went for an interview with a company in SG for a similar position & they are offering SG$1.9k salary. Is this the average range of salary for her position in SG? Would you guys think its a worthwhile move for her?

No venture, no gain. Life is a journey.

Here is a good ref site for you to do a bit of homework on the past performance of unit trust funds available in Spore - http://www.dollardex.com/sg/index.cfm?curr...estUTgraph/home

At today economic climate, you can easily burnt your pocket regardless what you are going to investing in. If you follow on financial news closely, you should know better what and when to invest, rather than getting opinions from a general forum.

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Added on February 3, 2012, 9:48 pmWhat's her qualification and if her qualification is recognised in S'pore? 1.5 years can be considered still fresh. Perhaps you should compare the actual net earning after deducted all her cost and expense. Beside monetary consideration, there are many other more important consideration like lifestyle change, family, BF relationship, etc.. that could be affected as well.

This post has been edited by wi1s0n: Feb 3 2012, 09:48 PM

He has family of 2 children la..he rented executive condo..
In here he has big landed house already..can suka suka have maids..

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Added on February 4, 2012, 1:16 am8k in malaysia, has a wife not working, left 7k. in sg, 8k left 3.5k, not much different. And school fees u have to decide too

This post has been edited by Materazzi: Feb 4 2012, 01:16 AM

Spend only 1K in Malaysia but lives like a KING? Suka suka maids already 1K, no?

Even assuming the expenses are correct, he actually has more than 3.5K left in SG because he has this big landed house in MY which he can rent out and offset against his rental in SG.

Also, if include taxation - the impact in MY will be much greater than SG.

This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 4 2012, 01:26 AM

Based on UBS' Prices & Earnings report, on average, you get paid 1.978 times more in Singapore than in Malaysia, so factoring in FX rates, anything above a 0.82 sgd : 1.00 myr ratio is considered "above average."

Guys, i got one question to ask.

There are 2 type of form when applying PR right?

One is through working permit.

The other one is through wife sponsor (my wife is PR).

Bout the second choice, i heard that if ur wife sponsor u as a PR, u need to go for national service? If tat is the case, why not i go for option 1?

either maths fail and got kicked out...or there is some other attachment not mentioned back home.


yes...if sponsored by wife who is PR...u will become a 2nd gen PR which is liable for NS.
some reasons....some company bonds u when u ask them to fill up the form (even though u are not asking them to sponsor u)
maybe easier to get if ppl sponsor.

Indon maid is only RM300 ma??don't know why he thought like that. it's no brainer I will choose singapore if like that..
Sometimes, I looked here also no brainer, someone here prefer RM6k than S$5k..

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Added on February 4, 2012, 2:38 pmIndon maid is only RM300 ma??don't know why he thought like that. it's no brainer I will choose singapore if like that..
Sometimes, I looked here also no brainer, someone here prefer RM6k than S$5k..

This post has been edited by Materazzi: Feb 4 2012, 02:38 PM

Salary alone is more than that. Plus all the agents fees, govt fees, insurance, checkup, install surveillance camera, buy safe to keep valuables etc... much more. Then the maid also need to makan, minum, mandi, main, tidur, tidur+main... all who pay?

Getting a maid just cost my brother RM130,000++. Had to buy a MPV because the sedan cannot fit 5 family members + 1 maid.

This post has been edited by seantang: Feb 4 2012, 02:51 PM

haha..maid no need to eat la..she will come at 8 then go home at 11..also can drive children to school with bicycle. His wife is housewife..no need surveillance. Now Indon maids are clever, they rather to have 4 jobs a day so they can earn 1.2k/month.

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Added on February 4, 2012, 2:59 pmyour brother should buy this http://www.daihatsu.com.my/html/panelvan_pricelist.html
it's very cheap and can fit about 11 people.

you can get cheaper price of alphard in terms of the bigness

This post has been edited by Materazzi: Feb 4 2012, 03:02 PM

sometimes i'm not sure if you're constantly trolling us or if you're just plain <insert word here>.

Amazing how ideas like those can come out of someone who reckons he's a potential CFO, innit? The scary thing is... I think he's really believes those are good ideas.

^

btw, I just ask opinion. from myself it's no brainer la, i will choose sg over my.

Btw, have a gf studying medicine in unrecognize university by the Singapore Medical Council, do you think she be able to work in Sg? In 2 yrs she will finish her medicine degree. I hope I can settle with her in Sg and she can work at sg too. No point to continue the r/s if we each other at our ego and kill our careers.

source: http://www.doctor-jobs-in-singapore.info/

Holds at least a relevant Bachelor degree awarded by a university recognised by the Singapore Medical Council (please refer to the List of Registrable Basic Medical Qualifications and the List of Registrable Postgraduate Medical Qualifications {this is in the process of being updated}, which are recognised by the Medical Council currently)

http://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/cont...lifications.pdf

Not to forget to get prepared for the maid to cabut with your belongings after few months. The rate is easily more than 80% according to a friend who own a maid agency.

you can it lucky if she cabut with your belonging....you will regret like hell if she cabut with your baby or kids.... or with your husbands

now we just need to know which company and avoid it.

wallawei.. add another SGD 1k can rent 2+1R 2B (with utilities) high end condo.. share with another 1P max pay SGD 2k/month per person..

no one reply?

Today SG radio news said causeway toll will increase by 5 times, I also read a line from ahjib kor that remind us drink water must think of its source, must replay the kindness of BN gov that dig the well (right into rakyat pocket).

So, let's remember to meet at GE13 to repay his kindness even at the 5x the current causeway toll charge.

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Added on February 5, 2012, 11:26 pmWhat else you want since you already said it is no brainer?

Need some one to confirm the brain part? Or another doc friend of mine who leave SG for better pay in other country kind of story?

This post has been edited by r1v3r: Feb 5 2012, 11:26 PM

Because of EDL? Most brilliant crony songlap-ism ever. Build a billion ringgit highway so that KL people going to Singapore can skip JB town ... but charge the toll at the Causeway so that even people who don't use the new highway need to pay for it.

Random Marina Bay shot. Was in a rush, didn't have time to set up properly


Marina Bay 2012 by shuigao25, on Flickr

Same deodorant at Clubsnap pentax section?

Nola, just need to avoid the finance section


Nah, I don't go to clubsnap

Have to leh. If he's CFO, he's basically second in command. You don't want to be in a company where the 2nd man thinks $4 meals for life is a good retirement and transporting your family around in a cargo truck is a good deal, do you? Think of all the tremendous payroll and benefits policies that he'll put in place, man.

I just ask rent a room in bedok reservoir and the agreement is start on 1 march 2012. SGD 700 exclude PUB

while my new job also start on 1 march 2012 near kaki bukit industrial.
I will be arrive in SG on 28 feb.
that means i need find a hotel nearby my company stay 2 nite.

Anyone can recommend budget hotel nearby or nearby MRT green line?

how come u rent a room exclude PUB?...u renting master room ah?700 bucks?
have you tried asking to move in a day or 2 earlier? Some of them wouldn't mind...then you can save up some $$ and the hassle

This post has been edited by tailtwist: Feb 6 2012, 02:57 AM

Who is this nincompoop who advocates 4 dollar chap fan type meals for life as good enough for a retirement lifestyle?

MY lousy contractor keep thinking I owed him big time for diging my back yard at my expense, should I send him back by MAS?.... fly kite him.

If there are other affortable alternatives such as MRT, ferry and pedestrian link along current causeway then I don't mind a hike in private car toll fee to increase public transport usage, I get faster clearance time for a fee but definately not in this robbery manner.

Can ask the JB police to rest for good, what's the point to catch small thieve in dark alley while allowing big robber operating 24/7 in front of Johor Istana... Oh.. the crime rate does not include bluntant corruption/robbery... ah I'm sooo forgetful near GE.

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Added on February 6, 2012, 11:36 ammaybe one of the sapu Malaysia restaurant owner? One meal RM4, 1st class... too cheap?

maybe the 1st class brand CFO?


This post has been edited by r1v3r: Feb 6 2012, 11:41 AM

Yes, quite confirmed that they will increase the toll to RM15++. Not only that we have to pay the toll when we do not use EDL, the money goes to somone's pocket instead of to the nations. Counted if it's 22 working days, it will cost about RM350 extra monthly.

So can anyone summaries the cost of driving to and fro from JB to SG everyday for work? Thanks.

Well, driving into SG
Malaysia Side:
Current Toll: RM2.90 X 22
New Toll: RM16 X 22
Patrol: Varies

SG Side
Toll: SGD1.20 X 22
If Malaysian Car: SGD20 X 22
ERP: Varies
Parking: Varies

So it actually depend on a few factors. For me, I need to pay about SGD850 when the new toll rate kicks in.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/06/13...-car-rape-girl/
saw this and just kill my interest to move to jb

johor has one of the highest criminal rates in Malaysia, no?
is it really that feasible to stay in jb and work in sg? saves that much? despite the trouble?

Well, depending on how you look at it. I think one will still need to take extra precaution to it. During my days back in KL, there were car jack cases happened as well.

IMO, JB is scarier than KL.

Anyway, it depends on luck lar.. so far so good.

OMG, toll going up?? kns...

Lucky I didn't stay in JB. I guess those stayed in JB must be enjoying the bakuteh there. I envy you bros... lol.

that was 2007. i believe 2011 is much lesser right?

for SG car

Custom Only: (RM16 + (S$1.2 x 2.4) ) x 22 = RM415.36 or S$173.07

estimated 70,000 cars/day so it is RM1,120,000 each day for the work of maintaining 8km highway. More than enough to buy a N35 GTR each day.

One for me, one for my makcik, one for my wife and one for my kid. No make that two for me.

Also, there seems to have a crack: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...8212&sec=nation

For those who miss KL, we can have another MRR2 episode in JB?

This post has been edited by L7Awesome: Feb 6 2012, 04:08 PM

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1738094&hl=

guys... why when we go to massage places or geylang gotta register ID?

what type of work permit you are holding, only WORK PERMIT POSB account no need initial deposit.

EP, DBS eSavings Plus, didn't need deposit when I opened an account. $2 fall-below fee was waived until end of the first month (I opened an account in the middle of a month).

good move if it could ease the congestion. really bad news for those who in/out everyday

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Added on February 6, 2012, 6:31 pmregister with who ? you ?

This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Feb 6 2012, 06:31 PM

EP noneed. Just created POST account with EP last month. Noneed initial deposit

This post has been edited by elvenchou1987: Feb 6 2012, 07:05 PM

Not sure about that. Did lta ever award the rights to collect and increase toll charges for 34 years to contractor who build the road or gantry?

Tax collection for a gov now become free gift to private company, how can that be good?

Reduce traffics? Don't think so, factor in the petrol cost and time using 2nd link ia about the same with new causeway charges, if there are people willing to go by 2nd link then it's just time that the rest will pay the cost to use causeway.

Corruption in broad daylight, LKY must be laughing you pay peanuts you get monkey. I say even we pay coconut we will still get monkey. Who will resist one R35 everyday for the next 34 years.

Warren Buffett eats simple meal

Sets simple will.

It will definitely reduce congestion within JB Town... at the expense of causeway travellers.

The whole thing of asking causeway users to bear the costs just doesn't make sense. I think they just wayang wayang only. Spread the news first, then you humble rakyat will complain like hell. I bet just right before the next GE, the BN government will come out with some almighty-we-humble-rakyat-should-be-thankful subsidy plan. And yes, subsidize their crony using our money.

This post has been edited by icycokes: Feb 6 2012, 09:35 PM

It makes perfect sense to the people profiting off of this new bridge!

Malaysia boleh.

Also, happy chap goh mei everyone Taken just now one.


Chap Goh Mei Moon by shuigao25, on Flickr

Nice picture you got there! The moon tonight is so clear and bright without clouds.

with the mama at the counter
yeaps... nearly changed into wolf when i went jogging just now..

chap goh meh is not celebrated by throwing orange into the river in sg?

most of the time, if Msia increase the toll, SG will increase it to the same value as well. like the current rate.

causeway $1.20 = RM2.90
2nd link, $3.20= RM7.50

so if msia increase the rate to $6.20, i scare SG will charge the equivalent sum as well.

Stanley Ho eats $300,000 white truffles.

Your point being?

I think Sg will match whatever Malaysia is charging for the toll, which there are doing currently.



This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Feb 6 2012, 11:58 PM

Many times, when i passing by JB town, was relunctant to go down to have a meal or visit some spas there...worry, after finish, come out, car gone liao ...

You might want to consider V Hotel Lavendar. The rate is $138 on weekday and near to Lavendar MRT.

have you try to seach www.asiarooms.com ?

you can view the special offer and pic before you decide to book.

For information, there are also motels that only renting out bed space for Sgd25 a day. But you got to stay with 7 other occupants inside the same room. Bathrooms is sharing basis outside. Soemtimes, if you are lucky, you can see ang moh lady change inside the room itself for you to "cuci mata".....

since when you start working at massage parlor ? got discount card ?

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Added on February 7, 2012, 12:38 pmnormally i'll park within my sight if i want to eat in a restaurant. so many years already, so far so good.
But i've a fren being stab multiple times in JB, survived to tell the story , but thats another story.

This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Feb 7 2012, 12:38 PM

the min i see this, i google http://www.bulletproofme.com/Stab-Inserts.shtml

haha. not really flexible coz he was stabbed outside a pub after pub-bing.

Your fren "kacau" the char-bor at the pub there?

Or your fren stared at them?

Or your fren too drunk that had accidentally pushed them

Or your fren brought a sui char boh and they were

what's the case leh???

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Added on February 7, 2012, 1:54 pmAiyook...got such thing in the market ah??

The best way is dont go to JB lor...as LGE has said mah....JB has the highest crime in Meleshia....come Sinkapor work, stay in Sinkapor and eat and spend in Sinkapor lor...you wont go pokai one....

Should i need to apologize to Johor Sultan???

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Feb 7 2012, 01:55 PM

guys, need some opinion here.. i am working in singapore since april 2011 until now...i resigned from the previous company on the november 2011 and now working in another company..however, the previous company failed to provide me payslip for month november 2011.. for PR application, can i still proceed now even though ICA sg stated there must be last 6 months payslip to be submitted?

This post has been edited by bLuE^dEv|L: Feb 7 2012, 06:11 PM

ex-company would have hold your salary last year to pay of the tax,
log in Iras and print the statement and submit together

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Added on February 7, 2012, 6:27 pmbetter apply now, some rumours brewing in expat forum might be new policy coming in June

This post has been edited by ivanswk: Feb 7 2012, 06:27 PM

Can anyone tell me why 7 out of 10 ppl in Singapore are using iPhone?
Now I can see selling iPhone accessories is serious business in Singapore.
Come on, Android is still the best mobile OS right now.

android might be the best
but all my frens are using iphone ..
so if he uses android then he will be left out of the pack...


by the way, i didnt get the senioir police officer job ....second interview already kena kick out.
sienz

Are you Singaporean?

FT senior police officer?? IMO a bit difficult.