seems low to me too ;( tried to ask the agent to nego a lil more for me, but she said the company wont go any higher...
ya the 3.5 bonus is in the offer letter.

im coming alone. but ive a lot of friends in Sg. even my bestfriends are there. ill rent. my current expense is about RM4K per month..

is it really not worth it? i was thinking i can save more with this new job but feels like im downgrading a lot where i may not have to..

No way... Ask for 1:1 or a 10% cut from ur current after a 1:1 ....

is this really applicable? i hear most people don't get this kind of offer anymore?

the $ is a straight no, if u have a lot commitment like mortgage etc..
ur self also hesitate when see the figure, but then in your mind must be thinking, maybe can jump or get substanstial increment if u perform well , sadly seen more people get dissapointed on this

unless u have a well plan strategy,
ur plan of come and have a look might end in dissapointment

If your bonus is contractual or target-based, and assuming 4 months bonus, then it's $60k p.a. ... which sucks ass.

Sos: Robert walters salary survey: http://www.robertwalters.com.sg/files/sala...survey-2012.pdf

Systems
Analyst
(5+
yrs’
exp) 2012: $80
-
100k

If you dont get the job, those who said you should get this, get that, at the end, they dont suffer a bit. It is only you who is affected. If the offer is better than your current job, it is for you yourself to consider it, take it or not. If you really feel it is no good, you can look for other better offer after you come here.

Your current expenses is 4k and how many ringgit left with your current pay after taking away the PCB and EPF? You just barely survive in Malaysia.

With a SGD 3,8k job, you highest expenses is room and transport. Room, you can rent and share with someone and it only cost you around 250 - 300 only. Transport is only max 300-400 per month and makan, no need so nice food lar since you are alone here....give you 600 per month. Do you know how much disposable income left for you to spend or save for this 3.8k job compare to your current job?

ive a house loan im paying at rm800 a month here in KL..

actually i've been looking for a job that fits me in Sg for almost 2 years now. and this is the best offer I've seen so far. before i get the offer, I have told myself 'if i'll be offered minimum 3.8K, i'll be satisfied...'
isnt the bonus good and makes up for the low salary?

when you talk to high class people, they will look down on your 3.8k. If you ask a Tan Sri, he can tell you even a 100k salary is also not worth it....it all boils down to what you want for yourself.

The minimum 3.5 bonus is SGD 13,300 = RM32k. Even you spend all your monthly 3.8k salary, at the end of the year, you will have RM32k savings, can you do that in Malaysia? still want to think.....you dont think Singapore's road is full of gold bars for you to come and pick up....

you dont take the job, there will always be someone willing to take it up.....and once the boat left, you will be left searching for may be another 2 years?

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Mar 15 2012, 09:57 AM

I got mine from Padang Jawa JPJ shah alam, they did not say anything about MY license cancellation. but I still have time until 2013 for next renewal

deadpool77, if you do not want the job, can intro me?
Seriously, I want that job.

whats your point actually? are u suggesting or not suggesting? your statements are kind of contradicting each other.
anyway thanks for the advice.

Padang Jawa should be Klang.....or i made a mistake all this while......

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Added on March 15, 2012, 10:01 am Read my points to you also not understand....what contradict?

This post has been edited by Tigerr: Mar 15 2012, 10:01 AM

3.8 is EP level, u be foreign talent to sg already
if u think the $ can sustain u and worst case "fail" and still can go home, nothing too lose. then..

can sense u wanted to come, haha just the $
bend a bit and life more simple and a clear strategy u might survive

got people here come look look, no breakthrough after awhile feel not worth the sacrifice
give up on detach house stay in small room with crazy landlord
give up driving, taking bus with china lady screaming on the phone
give up mamak, eating mee with vinegar inside

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Added on March 15, 2012, 10:17 amstill shah alam right,
i thought the 1 ringgit toll is the borderline between shah alam and klang

This post has been edited by ivanswk: Mar 15 2012, 10:17 AM

thank u for the constructive advice. lifestyle wise i think i won't have a problem. i've been there many times and i actually want to come so badly because my fiance is there and also the better opportunity.

give up on detach house stay in small room with crazy landlord
this one no problem coz ill stay with PR friend and rent whole house

give up driving, taking bus with china lady screaming on the phone
this one is ok too coz i lived in japan for few years and got used to public transporting

give up mamak, eating mee with vinegar inside
this one maybe will

i think ill miss driving most of all.

but again, thanks! helped me to decided a little



u in IT as well? maybe u can shed some more light? it seems the support jobs pay more there?

This post has been edited by deadpool77: Mar 15 2012, 10:23 AM

^ same like me lah when i was 20+ then,
wanted to come so much, with only spm grade 2 hahah..
my mind was decided even work as kuli at port, carrying guni bag also want to come
dang, come here see see
sg dun need kuli hahah..
lucky manage to join a mnc

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Added on March 15, 2012, 10:26 amdeodorant and kykhor, think both in IT
both in 5-6 plus category

This post has been edited by ivanswk: Mar 15 2012, 10:26 AM

ya...IT
but I came here with almost 5 years exp with about half your m'sian salary back then.
My offer was slightly higher basic than what you are offered now, so basically, mine was a no brainer whether to accept or not as mine was more than 1:1 (must be I am underpaid in M'sia).
Furthermore, your situation is almost the same as mine back then.
Gal (fiance) already here...guy still stuck in M'sia.
I do not like support..prefer development.
However, being with my wife is more important so I accepted the support offer and now waiting for chance to jump back.

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Added on March 15, 2012, 10:34 amBut I definitely do not have a 3.5 month guaranteed bonus.

This post has been edited by crazy25kid: Mar 15 2012, 10:34 AM

[quote=ivanswk,Mar 15 2012, 10:25 AM]
^ same like me lah when i was 20+ then,
wanted to come so much, with only spm grade 2 hahah..
my mind was decided even work as kuli at port, carrying guni bag also want to come
dang, come here see see
sg dun need kuli hahah..
lucky manage to join a mnc

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Added on March 15, 2012, 10:26 am

u in IT as well? maybe u can shed some more light? it seems the support jobs pay more there?

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deodorant and kykhor, think both in IT
both in 5-6 plus category

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5 6 ++.. that was my initial expected salary back when i first started looking for job there. after tonnes of let down and few headhunters telling me "Impossible" i had to lower it down by so much..

crazykid ill ask the employer if theres any more vacancy left

I thought I would miss driving when I moved to SG (after 6 years working in KL), but I actually don't. MRT is super convenient, and when I'm lazy to stand, or going out on the weekends, I'll just take cab. End up spending couple hundred on transport a month which (dollar for ringgit) is still significantly less than the cost of owning and running a car in KL.


AIYO, like this then changes things already. Strictly speaking looking at the numbers, $60k p.a. is peanuts pay for your role / experience, and I feel you would somewhat downgrade your standard of living as compared to your rm90k p.a. M'sia job. But to be together with your loved one especially since planning to get married - personally I would take the hit to avoid long distance relationship.

Do note that renting an entire apartment changes the numbers significantly, though. Don't know how much your fiancee is earning, but whole apartment, you'll need to cough up somethign like $2.5k/mth (including utilities) for anything decent.

thanks.




+1

I'm lowly paid mang. Proof is my e-filing screenshot, tax for last years $1xxx.xx only


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