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post Jan 1 2010, 01:04 AM, updated 16y ago

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Congrates to all B.yonders...we are now in B.yond version 2.0

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woh new thread!!! =P
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post Jan 1 2010, 01:28 AM

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post Jan 1 2010, 01:30 AM

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not new thread la...version 2...
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post Jan 1 2010, 01:40 AM

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its up to u..erm, now we have 29 b.yonders till now...erm, today, hbo hd showing indiana jones(old story with hd)...the picture was perrfect for old film....
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On the 720p vs. 1080i topic, my take is this:

Watch in 720p if the programme material contains fast moving scenes, eg. sports coverage. You will get more vertical resolution for rapidly changing scenes with 720p.

Watch in 1080i if the programme material contains mostly stills or slowing moving scenes, eg. some documentaries. The final resolution of 1080i is full HD 1920x1080. And with the transmission at 1080i 50Hz, it means a frame rate of 25Hz, and most TVs can do a really good job of deinterlacing nowadays, no comb effect, and minimal blurring of images. Of course this is also helped by the motion compensation algorithm (known as 100Hz lah, 200Hz lah and whatever the manufacturers wanna call those).

For a quick test, just do this:

Press the Home button on the remote to bring out the menu. This will resize the video to a small screen near the top right corner. The video can be of any channel, SD or HD (can use SuperSports HD). Observe the video while in 1080i mode. Then do the same thing again but with 720p mode. In my case I found that even the small words on the video screen is still crisp and clear at 1080i, but not so sharp and slightly blured at 720p.

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its up to u..erm, now we have 29 b.yonders till now...erm, today, hbo hd showing indiana jones(old story with hd)...the picture was perrfect for old film....
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Many old movies are available on blurays these days as long as they were shot on real film (not video tapes). The resolution of films is always higher than full HD and thus the film can be converted to blurays and still able to show more details than on DVD previously, not to mention with better colour rendition too.

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post Jan 1 2010, 02:09 AM

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ya la..among the hottest topic in home entertaintment thread....but its a good sign tho..
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bro, tak dpt lagi ?? dlm minggu dpn kot. smile.gif .. selamat tahun baru rclxm9.gif

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bro, tak dpt lagi ?? dlm minggu dpn kot.  smile.gif  .. selamat tahun baru  rclxm9.gif
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aku da pasang kat umah...aku tgk channel HD mmg cun..tp bile tgk tv1 tv2 n tv3 n dll tv biasa2 tu cam jd lebih buruk dr sblm nie je? ke smua org dpt camtu?
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erm maybe bcoz b.yond using hdmi cable, then the picture will be clearer...and if the signal is bad...it will come worst..hehe....correct me if im wrong
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since when cheras is in selangor? lol...unless he is saying he got 2 places both cheras and selangor also pasang byond haha
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 1 2010, 10:53 AM)
since when cheras is in selangor? lol...unless he is saying he got 2 places both cheras and selangor also pasang byond haha
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there are cheras in kl, and cheras in selangoor.. gombak also same...

neway, my rented house also setup with b.yond (tmn setapak indah)
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I subcribe last year but until this year no call yet from installer.
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just call astro cs and goreng them with the word "MCMC or SKMM"....they will speed up ure process... after i did that, within 2 days i got the installer's detail via sms...and able to made appointment with them...go try it brows.gif

Added on January 1, 2010, 11:16 am
QUOTE(muhdhan @ Jan 1 2010, 11:12 AM)
there are cheras in kl, and cheras in selangoor.. gombak also same...

neway, my rented house also setup with b.yond (tmn setapak indah)
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oo never heard of that lol...somehow everyone keeps telling me cheras is in kl etc... now that clears up the air, thanks for explaining smile.gif

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 1 2010, 10:53 AM)
since when cheras is in selangor? lol...unless he is saying he got 2 places both cheras and selangor also pasang byond haha
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batu 11 cheras is under selangor .. post code start from 43000 ..
post code start from 5XXXX cheras of course under kuala lumpur .. u know that ..
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Added on January 1, 2010, 11:48 ami'm not at home rite now...is ESPN HD up and running?? it's Jan 1st alredi.........

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Happy New Year all!

Tho it would be happier if we had EPL on HD this weekend...
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Just configuring Harmony remote, seems the suggested remote is not working.. Only a few button.. If anyone got suggestion for other model please do post, very troublesome to learn all key..
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There are four codes for Pace satellite decoders on my Yamaha AV Receiver's remote, none of them worked, so I spent half an hour that day making my Yamaha remote learn the Astro Byond Pace DS-830NA remote code... it's like getting two rats to mate using infra red... phew... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 1 2010, 11:52 AM)
There are four codes for Pace satellite decoders on my Yamaha AV Receiver's remote, none of them worked, so I spent half an hour that day making my Yamaha remote learn the Astro Byond Pace DS-830NA remote code... it's like getting two rats to mate using infra red... phew...  sweat.gif
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Already resolved to leaning 1-by-1.. Luckily I can check all command wanna learn and the computer will prompt 1-by-1.. so just a few minutes.. Currently testing now..
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when will ESPN HD start broadcast?
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when will ESPN HD start broadcast?
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Yeah anyone have info on this??

Cos EPL will be shown here

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The remote control a bit sensitive. Sometimes like press once but like tekan twice.
And I still don't know how to surf Fav channels which I already set. Anyone can help?
Volume control doesn't work as well
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The remote control a bit sensitive. Sometimes like press once but like tekan twice.
And I still don't know how to surf Fav channels which I already set. Anyone can help?
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Refer to manual.

press OK + vol up... then will configurate itself..my wife teach me one lol

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 1 2010, 01:18 PM)
The remote control a bit sensitive. Sometimes like press once but like tekan twice.
Yep, same here, press once and many times the decoder will think that you have pressed twice... They need to improve on the "debouncing" circuitry on the decoder, I hope this can be software-programmed, else (most likely) if it's fixed by the hardware circuitry, we have to live with this design flaw...

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Volume control doesn't work as well
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It only works for the analogue audio RCA left and right outputs, that's if you are using that. But the volume control on the remote can be set to control the volume on your TV set. Read the instruction manual.
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QUOTE(beandybean @ Jan 1 2010, 01:38 PM)
Refer to manual.

press OK + vol up... then will configurate itself..my wife teach me one lol
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I did that. Read from the manual. It didn't work for me
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Congrats on V2!
err...so fast??? blink.gif
So now actually how many channels are HD?
EPL in HD?
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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 1 2010, 01:38 PM)
Yep, same here, press once and many times the decoder will think that you have pressed twice... They need to improve on the "debouncing" circuitry on the decoder, I hope this can be software-programmed, else (most likely) if it's fixed by the hardware circuitry, we have to live with this design flaw...
It only works for the analogue audio RCA left and right outputs, that's if you are using that. But the volume control on the remote can be set to control the volume on your TV set. Read the instruction manual.
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Using HDMI. Ok I guess I have to program it to control my tv
how about surfing Fav channels?
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 1 2010, 12:25 PM)
Already resolved to leaning 1-by-1.. Luckily I can check all command wanna learn and the computer will prompt 1-by-1.. so just a few minutes.. Currently testing now..
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Actually the learning part is not that difficult, deciding which key on my Yamaha remote to assign so that it's ergonomic to use is the problem, have to think a bit...
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 1 2010, 01:42 PM)
Using HDMI. Ok I guess I have to program it to control my tv
how about surfing Fav channels?
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I dont use fav, but I think can be easily done, someone explained back in the original thread, but it's best to read the manual.
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The 'toggle aspect ratio' button on the remote control is not working.
Any one any idea?
Bcos for not HD chanel we need to change back the layout/aspect ratio

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the astro people are installing in my house now

cant wait to see the picture quality
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QUOTE(beandybean @ Jan 1 2010, 01:59 PM)
The 'toggle aspect ratio' button on the remote control is not working.
Any one any idea?
Bcos for not HD chanel we need to change back the layout/aspect ratio
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I remember someone pointed in the V1 thread before.

Try go into installation setting, with the code "0000". Then u can choose to have fully stretch or pillar mode for SD channel display.

Else, u can dig out the V1 thread.
I would suggest if certain guides can be included into the first page of this thread smile.gif
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The 'toggle aspect ratio' button on the remote control is not working.
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Using HDMI. Ok I guess I have to program it to control my tv
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this is good news for me... then i dont need to configure the decoder remote to work with the tv.... my dad always uses the astro's volume remote while my grandma always uses the tv's volume remote.... and quite often i see the tv's volume is 99 (max volume level).... thansk to dad making it so damn soft in the astro's volume remote.....causing my grandma to keep maximizing the tv's volume level sweat.gif sweat.gif
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My Astro B.yond just installed 1 hour ago. I am in Kuching, Sarawak. Feel not bad and improve a lot. thumbup.gif

But when I set setting in Home>Settings>Installation Settings>HD Settings when I choose 720p or 1080i, the screen become very big and some manu become unreadable, why? Only default 576p is ok. hmm.gif

I am using Panasonic FullHD Plasma P42S10K.

Should I restart Astro B.yond decoder? hmm.gif

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The 'toggle aspect ratio' button on the remote control is not working.
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Here, manually go in to set it here on the screenshot below, a lot of things are still not working, Astro promises to make them work starting from this month... extracted below items from V1 of the thread...

You can go change from pillar box to stretch on this screen, somewhere in the Installation Settings menu...

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 1 2010, 03:58 PM)
My Astro B.yond just installed 1 hour ago.  I am in Kuching, Sarawak.  Feel not bad and improve a lot.  thumbup.gif

But when I set setting in Home>Settings>Installation Settings>HD Settings when I choose 720p or 1080i, the screen become very big and some manu become unreadable, why?  Only default 576p is ok.  hmm.gif

I am using Panasonic FullHD Plasma P42S10K.

Should I restart Astro B.yond decoder?  hmm.gif
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Try to play around with your TV aspect radio.
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Try to play around with your TV aspect radio.
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Don't work. Because my default setting for TV is 16:9.

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this is good news for me... then i dont need to configure the decoder remote to work with the tv.... my dad always uses the astro's volume remote while my grandma always uses the tv's volume remote.... and quite often i see the tv's volume is 99 (max volume level).... thansk to dad making it so damn soft in the astro's volume remote.....causing my grandma to keep maximizing the tv's volume level  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Haha... yes indeed, the proper way to adjust volume must always be right at the end of the chain, the TV in this case. Previously, the SD set has analogue output, so if it's set soft and the TV volume is turned up all the way high, you may get hissing sound if you put your ear near the TV speaker, a sign of poor signal to noise ratio. The situation won't be so bad with digital but if the volume control is implemented for digital (currently not), and it is not done correctly, you may lose resolution instead (from 16-bit to much less), making the sound dull at low volume. So, bottomline is to adjust the volume at the audio amplifier (TV, AV Receiver, pre amp, etc...) to ensure sustained sound quality even at low volumes.
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Don't work.  Because my default setting for TV is 16:9.
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I mean your aspect ratio setting at panny TV.. not the setting at Astro Byond
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Don't work.  Because my default setting for TV is 16:9.
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Set to Just Scan, or whatever Panasonic's equivalent words that carry the same meaning... smile.gif

This mode will ensure a pixel-perfect mapping, so if it's 1080i, every pixel on the signal will map exactly to the same physical pixel on the screen, with no overscan, etc.

Overscanning is a relic from the days of CRT TV where the actual edges of the picture is off the screen so that the screen can be fully filled.
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i tried to set 720p and compare with the setting of 1080i,
my answer is 1080i is still the best quality for me,
not same as what other forumers said,
720p is the best,
is it because of tv(i am using hd ready tv only) or because i am not watching 'always move' programme like sport channels?
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I have settled the problem after complete switch off Astro B.yond decoder and switch on again. Then, I set the settings again and this time everything fine and the screen will not become too big.

Maybe just now is due to the installer just install the decoder and Astro had not activate the service. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 1 2010, 04:32 PM)
Set to Just Scan, or whatever Panasonic's equivalent words that carry the same meaning...  smile.gif

This mode will ensure a pixel-perfect mapping, so if it's 1080i, every pixel on the signal will map exactly to the same physical pixel on the screen, with no overscan, etc.

Overscanning is a relic from the days of CRT TV where the actual edges of the picture is off the screen so that the screen can be fully filled.
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Actually, to have some overscan for OTA broadcasts is normally better. There is normally garbage at the last row of pixels that will show up in ur screen. If this is the case u might need the overscan.
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i tried to set 720p and compare with the setting of 1080i,
my answer is 1080i is still the best quality for me,
not same as what other forumers said,
720p is the best,
is it because of tv(i am using hd ready tv only) or because i am not watching 'always move' programme like sport channels?
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My TV (Panny TX-32LE8MK) also looks good when i set byond output to 1080i....
but when i set it to 720p, it became a bit blurry and picture not so sharp.... sad.gif
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My TV (Panny TX-32LE8MK) also looks good when i set byond output to 1080i....
but when i set it to 720p, it became a bit blurry and picture not so sharp....  sad.gif
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i agree,
the picture became a bit blur and not share.

i am using samsung 32 inches lcd tv..
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Just wanna ask, anyone here have tried connecting astro byond using Monster HDMI Cable? Any "different" in PQ and SQ maybe?? biggrin.gif

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from what you guys say...i have a feeling all hd channels are broadcasted 1080i.... because if u feel that the pic is a lil blur...it might be due to decoder resizing to 720p and deinterlace it.... then when it comes to tv...it tries to stretch it back to 1080p (if ure tv is full hd...) Even if ure tv isnt full hd, the more reason to believe its 1080i source due to the resizing to 720p and deinterlacing alone...

i have played some 720p (native) sources on my panny before and i dont notice such blurring effect.... infact its very real...like ure tv is the window to the concert lol (sharp and smooth motion)
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Just received my astro byond 2 days ago, took only 1 week from online registraton till installation. some HBO HD PQ is pretty decent.

Only thing is the decoder doesnt have optical output for sound, as it comes with coaxial output. Im planning to get a Panasonic SC PT875 home theater & that needs optical input if i want astro sound to be played thru the home theater.
Read earlier posts that it needs a coaxial to optical converter, any1 in Penang knows where to get one? thanks~ : )

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 1 2010, 03:58 PM)
My Astro B.yond just installed 1 hour ago.  I am in Kuching, Sarawak.  Feel not bad and improve a lot.  thumbup.gif

But when I set setting in Home>Settings>Installation Settings>HD Settings when I choose 720p or 1080i, the screen become very big and some manu become unreadable, why?  Only default 576p is ok.  hmm.gif

I am using Panasonic FullHD Plasma P42S10K.

Should I restart Astro B.yond decoder?  hmm.gif
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We are using the same setup. thumbup.gif

I choose 1080i and its working very nice.
TV resolution being set to 16:9, where I will use "JUST" for SD channel.

Only clear at 576p? That's weird.
Assuming u using HDMI cable.

How about re-do all the settings and see if it help ?
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my current astro is parellel setup which mean the decoder is at living hall and i can watch astro channel at my bedroom. Installer just called my up and i raise this concern to him and told by him that this cannot be done on astro beyond.

Called up astro cust service, confirm with them no solution at all.

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QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:07 PM)
to all sifu...
my current astro is parellel setup which mean the decoder is at living hall and i can watch astro channel at my bedroom. Installer just called my up and i raise this concern to him and told by him that this cannot be done on astro beyond.

Called up astro cust service, confirm with them no solution at all.
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So you are saying... if the decoder is tuned to one channel, upstairs will also be the same channel? if yes maybe u can buy the component cable or composite cable and plug to ure upstairs tv and use the hdmi downstairs
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if both tV also LCD and want HD quality. then gonna cost u quite abit..requires HDMI splitters/extenders

QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:07 PM)
to all sifu...
my current astro is parellel setup which mean the decoder is at living hall and i can watch astro channel at my bedroom. Installer just called my up and i raise this concern to him and told by him that this cannot be done on astro beyond.

Called up astro cust service, confirm with them no solution at all.
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So you are saying... if the decoder is tuned to one channel, upstairs will also be the same channel? if yes maybe u can buy the component cable or composite cable and plug to ure upstairs tv and use the hdmi downstairs
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Current astro decoder can be done but not the astro beyond setup box. According to astro cust service, the new setup box only 1 to 1.

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if both tV also LCD and want HD quality. then gonna cost u  quite abit..requires HDMI splitters/extenders
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bro.. r u saying that it can be done even though we subscribe to astro beyond? i don't mind my bedroom without HD quality at least i can watch. Any idea where to buy those splitter/extenders???

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ooh dam..
now normal channel not so clear because not using s video cable
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i'm using 'Belkin' HDMI cable, dont see any difference tongue.gif
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Just wanna ask, anyone here have tried connecting astro byond using Monster HDMI Cable? Any "different" in PQ and SQ maybe??  biggrin.gif
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Added on January 1, 2010, 6:39 pmif u dont need the hd quality for 1 of your TV, just get the AV to RF converter thingy, check V1 Astro thread, can get from pasar road
QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
Current astro decoder can be done but not the astro beyond setup box. According to astro cust service, the new setup box only 1 to 1.

Added on January 1, 2010, 6:22 pm

bro.. r u saying that it can be done even though we subscribe to astro beyond? i don't mind my bedroom without HD quality at least i can watch. Any idea where to buy those splitter/extenders???
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bro.. r u saying that it can be done even though we subscribe to astro beyond? i don't mind my bedroom without HD quality at least i can watch. Any idea where to buy those splitter/extenders???
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Maybe u can get it at jalan pasar. But it's very expensive.
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QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
Current astro decoder can be done but not the astro beyond setup box. According to astro cust service, the new setup box only 1 to 1.

Added on January 1, 2010, 6:22 pm

bro.. r u saying that it can be done even though we subscribe to astro beyond? i don't mind my bedroom without HD quality at least i can watch. Any idea where to buy those splitter/extenders???
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HD decoder has HDMI/component/composite video out, so you can actually connect 3 displays simultaneously
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QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:58 PM)
bro.. that's mean have to pull either component or composite cable to bedroom...  cry.gif  cry.gif
what is the limitation in term of length for component / composite cable? from living hall to bedroom... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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was wondering non of the forumer using parellel connection and now subscribed to byond... curious!

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was wondering non of the forumer using parellel connection and now subscribed to byond... curious!
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rf modulator would be a possible easy route, only need a single rg6 coaxial cable to carry both video and audio signal to remote TV, other method is wireless av sender, no wire involved

there is already a thread discussing this topic, go over there and have a look around
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/616678/+60

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Just notice the new Granada TV on Astro 735..am I slowpoke or this really a new channel hmm.gif Too bad it's not HD sad.gif

Added on January 1, 2010, 7:16 pmDiscussed extensively in V1 dy.. U can connect to another LCD using RCA cable; RCA- AV-RF conveter>RF or a wireless AV transmitter. smile.gif

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rf modulator would be a possible easy route, only need a single rg6 coaxial cable to carry both video and audio signal to remote TV, other method is wireless av sender, no wire involved

there is already a thread discussing this topic, go over there and have a look around
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/616678/+60
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bro... possible to use back the current coaxial cable (from the current decoder @ living hall)
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bro... possible to use back the current coaxial cable (from the current decoder @ living hall)
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do you mean you have unused coaxial RG-6 cable from old astro decoder? Not sure what you mean.

but what you need to do is like this :
astro RCA composite video out + audio out --> rf modulator --> rg-6 coaxial cable --> remote tv antenna in

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First time I noticed this Granada too.

As for the coax cable, I'm using my old one. Installer didn't give me the new roll
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Just notice the new Granada TV on Astro 735..am I slowpoke or this really a new channel  hmm.gif  Too bad it's not HD  sad.gif
Granada TV is actually replacing BBC Entertainment...
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i like the remote compared to my old one...can off my tv
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From Lyngsat.com, HD Channel from Astro currently not transmit using MEASAT 3A at all... It using Measat 3, just like normal SD Channel..and the polarization also still the same, not Horizontal, but Vertical again just like normal SD Channel...
What is the different for HD Channels is their compression method..normal SD using MPEG 2, and HD was using MPEG 4
Damn version 2. Can't reply to this post directly. But he's right (I assume the poster is a he). So far these are the channels on Measat 3a: All Sports Network, Astro Aruna, Astro RIA, Baby TV, Food Network HD, Ginx TV, Jim Jam, Life Inspired HD, Sundance Channel Asia HD, Unitel Classica Asia, Voom HD Networks and Women's Entertainment HD. Aruna and Ria on Measat 3a seem like duplicate channels to test the satellite's capabilities. The rest seems like they are merely being downlinked to the rest of the world. Info on Measat 3a. In case you are wondering, Measat-3a is named as such to avoid the dreaded 4.

The bulk of the channels are on Measat 3 including AXN Korea HD, National Geographic Channel HD Asia, History HD Asia, Nat Geo Wild Asia HD. If you want ALL of these HD channels, you need to obtaine a GlobeCast decoder.

So if using the old dish with B.yond means you can receive the HD channels, it has wide implications.
1) When Measat 3 is retired, those who are using the old dish with B.yond is screwed since the new wider dish can receive more signal. (Call Astro and get yours changed now!) The bigger dish reduces rain fade that affects the KU band. Migrating off Measat 3 means that C-band transmission will cease as Measat3a is KU band only.
2) HD on B.yond can easily expand to include the Measat 3a transponders as well as the current HD transponders on Measat 3.


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Overscanning is a relic from the days of CRT TV where the actual edges of the picture is off the screen so that the screen can be fully filled.
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Not true. The majority of HDTVs out there has overscan that CANNOT BE TURNED OFF. The exception that I know of so far is HDTVs by Panasonic.

You won't know this unless you have movies that are in 1.85 aspect ratio, either DVD or BD. Play them and if you see small black bars (not big black bars) on the top and bottom of the screen, then you know our HDTV does not have any overscan.

QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 1 2010, 04:42 PM)
Actually, to have some overscan for OTA broadcasts is normally better. There is normally garbage at the last row of pixels that will show up in ur screen. If this is the case u might need the overscan.
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Those garbage are data useless for everyone except broadcasters. However, the TV standards are such that you are not supposed to see the data on ANY TV. HOWEVER, most CRT manufactures go beyond that which meant that you're seeing even LESS of the actual signal.

QUOTE(R.ap7or @ Jan 1 2010, 05:25 PM)
Only thing is the decoder doesnt have optical output for sound, as it comes with coaxial output. Im planning to get a Panasonic SC PT875 home theater & that needs optical input if i want astro sound to be played thru the home theater.
Read earlier posts that it needs a coaxial to optical converter, any1 in Penang knows where to get one? thanks~ : )
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I always see a lot of complain about worst SD PQ from Byond but mine seem PQ from Byond is better than the previous one. Wonder what is the maximun strength level, i am getting 255 at any time i set the application.
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If you're in the market for a BD HTiB, see if you like the sound coming from the Philips HTS7540. It has coax and Toslink in; you can use Toslink with a PS3.
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Not true. The majority of HDTVs out there has overscan that CANNOT BE TURNED OFF. The exception that I know of so far is HDTVs by Panasonic.

You won't know this unless you have movies that are in 1.85 aspect ratio, either DVD or BD. Play them and if you see small black bars (not big black bars) on the top and bottom of the screen, then you know our HDTV does not have any overscan.
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Samsung LCD TVs have non-overscan mode also (and for some years already), just need to use the aspect ratio button to set to Just Scan, and this mode will only work at 720p, 1080i and 1080p resolutions. I have a HTPC outputting 1080p via HDMI, can see exactly 1920x1080 on my Samsung TV without any cropping of the Windows desktop edges, pixel perfect mapping.

Btw, are there movies in 1.85 AR? I think not many, most movies are in 2.35:1 AR, that will always result in two huge black horizontal bars. Popular shows (and some made for TV movies) recorded off HDTV broadcasts are all 1.77 (16:9) AR. But I believe I could have seen movies with thin black bars on top and bottom of the screen, just can't remember which one.
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On the 720p vs 1080i, in my case too, 1080i is definitely more detailed. I think this is because most TVs these days can do a good job of deinterlacing without losing resolution, also helped by whatever motion compensation feature that the TV has (100Hz, 200Hz, etc). The real test will be pictures with a lot of movements, like a football game where the ball is always moving around on the screen, if the ball is clearer with 720p, then only you might wanna consider switching down to 720p, else I'll say just set it to 1080i and enjoy!
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 1 2010, 05:50 PM)
We are using the same setup.  thumbup.gif

I choose 1080i and its working very nice.
TV resolution being set to 16:9, where I will use "JUST" for SD channel.

Only clear at 576p? That's weird.
Assuming u using HDMI cable.

How about re-do all the settings and see if it help ?
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I'm just wondering, why ASTRO's new decoder didnt have a setting to output default resolutions as it is broadcasted? For example if the channel is 576i, then just output that, etc... instead of forcing us to choose 720p or 1080i... I understand this option allows hd ready tv to be viewed, but if only they could include another option with "Broadcasted resolution".

Another fear I have in mind is... how does the decoder work? Lets say you set your output resolution choice of 720p. Does the decoder continues to resize again 720p broadcasted video to 720p and perform deinterlacing or it will intelligently know "ah this video stream is 720p, no need resize and deinterlace, just output the video stream straight away". I'm sure the decoder would do that to non 720p video stream, like if it seems 1080i stream, it will do the resize and deinterlacing. I just want to know if this decoder is smart.

Same goes to 1080i setting. If you set 1080i resolution, what will it do? Will it perform resize and frame interpolation to video streams broadcasted in 1080i? Or it is smart enough to know ok its the same resolution, just output it to the tv?

And I'm also afraid that does the decoder adds noise reduction to those standard definition channel? Im very sure if they need to resize SD channels to 1080i, noise reduction + smoothing effect would be needed to ensure the picture quality stays satisfying, hence they claimed that the SD channels are "enhanced".

Why do i fear all these?

I have a feeling one day recording via hdmi would be possible by bypassing hdcp protocols since it has know to have some serious flaws. And if that day comes, we would still not be recording pure digital video stream out of the hdmi since the decoder has adjusted something to the streams.
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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 1 2010, 11:42 PM)
Samsung LCD TVs have non-overscan mode also (and for some years already), just need to use the aspect ratio button to set to Just Scan, and this mode will only work at 720p, 1080i and 1080p resolutions. I have a HTPC outputting 1080p via HDMI, can see exactly 1920x1080 on my Samsung TV without any cropping of the Windows desktop edges, pixel perfect mapping.
Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. Usually the sales assistants don't take out the TV remote.

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A lot of movies are in 1.85. While it's true that most action/sci-fi movies are in 2.39, a lot more movies are in 1.85 since more dramas and comedy are shot this way; shooting 2.39 in anamorphic using film requires more lights which means a higher budget. Examples of action movies in 1.85 are the Jurassic Park trilogy, Bram Stoker's Dracula and Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes.


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I'm just wondering, why ASTRO's new decoder didnt have a setting to output default resolutions as it is broadcasted? For example if the channel is 576i, then just output that, etc... instead of forcing us to choose 720p or 1080i... I understand this option allows hd ready tv to be viewed, but if only they could include another option with "Broadcasted resolution".
The reason has to do with reducing the number of phone calls Astro CS will get.

Astro can actually do signal resolution via HDMI and output SD as SD and HD as 720p or 1080i. HOWEVER, that means for ONE SECOND, the HDTV will go blank as it applies the right setting to the signal (so that SD/720p is upconverted to fill up the entire screen). You can see this clearly when you play Blu-ray Discs when the disc cycles from 1080i to 1080p to 480p because of your selection.

So imagine somebody flipping the channels on Astro.

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Another fear I have in mind is... how does the decoder work? Lets say you set your output resolution choice of 720p. Does the decoder continues to resize again 720p broadcasted video to 720p and perform deinterlacing or it will intelligently know "ah this video stream is 720p, no need resize and deinterlace, just output the video stream straight away".
There are flags in the video stream that identifies it as such so that the decoder doesn't do a lot of work.

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I'm sure the decoder would do that to non 720p video stream, like if it seems 1080i stream, it will do the resize and deinterlacing. I just want to know if this decoder is smart.
The decoder is smart but it's also software driven. If Astro wants to screw it up majorly, they can upload a firmware that can do that. But they won't.

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Same goes to 1080i setting. If you set 1080i resolution, what will it do? Will it perform resize and frame interpolation to video streams broadcasted in 1080i? Or it is smart enough to know ok its the same resolution, just output it to the tv?
If you set your output as 720p, a 720p signal goes out as is while 1080i will be downconverted to 720p.

If you set your output as 1080i, a 720p signal goes out upconverted to 1080i while 1080i will be released as is.

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And I'm also afraid that does the decoder adds noise reduction to those standard definition channel? Im very sure if they need to resize SD channels to 1080i, noise reduction + smoothing effect would be needed to ensure the picture quality stays satisfying, hence they claimed that the SD channels are "enhanced".
Apart from upconverting SD video to 720p/1080i, we don't know if NR is applied or if so, how much.

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I have a feeling one day recording via hdmi would be possible by bypassing hdcp protocols since it has know to have some serious flaws. And if that day comes, we would still not be recording pure digital video stream out of the hdmi since the decoder has adjusted something to the streams.
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Which flaw does HDCP have? Sounds like you want to hack the HD signal before it gets to the HDCP chip. But that chip may already be integrated in the decoding chip.

Worry only that when B.yond enables recording, it will record the pure digital stream prior to decoding.


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Which flaw does HDCP have? Sounds like you want to hack the HD signal before it gets to the HDCP chip. But that chip may already be integrated in the decoding chip.
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I think the Pace DS-830 series decoder is marketed as a "single chip" satellite decoding solution, must be one of those system-on-a-chip IC that integrates as many things as possible. There will still be some peripheral chips, but until someone voids his/her warranty and opens up his/her Byond/Pace DS-830NA and posts pictures of the circuit board, then only we can be sure of the design.

Speaking of opening up the decoder, I noticed the screws are not the regular allen key screws, but some multi-angled "security" screws, I think it is still possible to get those 30-in-1 screw driver set that has this combination. Take a look at the close up photos of the rear and observe the type of screws used...

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Edit: One more photo to show the screws at the side...

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recording...how about piracy problem?
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I guess the only way to record the raw digital stream is to hack, but knowing Astro, it will make this difficult...

From what I understand, Astro will enable the user recording feature soon, via the USB ports. Apparently the encrypted recording can only be played back on the decoder that it was recorded on. Astro will also list out the specification of the devices that can be used on the USB ports, eg. HDD specs, etc., when they launch the feature.

Currently, poking a USB flash drive into the front USB port of the decoder does nothing, the set didn't even attempt to read the USB device. Looks like they can also enable/disable the USB ports from their control centre, just like the HDMI port as someone found out...
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I guess the only way to record the raw digital stream is to hack, but knowing Astro, it will make this difficult...

From what I understand, Astro will enable the user recording feature soon, via the USB ports. Apparently the encrypted recording can only be played back on the decoder that it was recorded on. Astro will also list out the specification of the devices that can be used on the USB ports, eg. HDD specs, etc., when they launch the feature.

Currently, poking a USB flash drive into the front USB port of the decoder does nothing, the set didn't even attempt to read the USB device. Looks like they can also enable/disable the USB ports from their control centre, just like the HDMI port as someone found out...
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what about plugging in the ethernet cable? lol... i would want to try it out once i get mine =P
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what about plugging in the ethernet cable? lol... i would want to try it out once i get mine =P
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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 2 2010, 02:15 AM)
I think the Pace DS-830 series decoder is marketed as a "single chip" satellite decoding solution, must be one of those system-on-a-chip IC that integrates as many things as possible. There will still be some peripheral chips, but until someone voids his/her warranty and opens up his/her Byond/Pace DS-830NA and posts pictures of the circuit board, then only we can be sure of the design.

Speaking of opening up the decoder, I noticed the screws are not the regular allen key screws, but some multi-angled "security" screws, I think it is still possible to get those 30-in-1 screw driver set that has this combination. Take a look at the close up photos of the rear and observe the type of screws used...


Edit: One more photo to show the screws at the side...
looks like torx screw. my old philips decoder uses that too
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looks like torx screw. my old philips decoder uses that too
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I have followed this thread and V1 thread closely.

After observations, finally called Astro CS this morning to subscribe the Astro Beyond, I was told ESPN HD will be made available very very soon in Jan. Hopefully within 24 hours, I would receive call from Astro to arrange for AB installer. and AB installation within 10 working days. Cheers.

I even asked Astro CS is any privilege for pioneer subscribers like myself (member since 1998 :haha ), she told me that Astro may have promotions for loyal subscribers. I wish they will keep to their promise, they should not aim for new subscriber but also to 'maintain' their existing subscriber though there are the sole satellite TV service provider currently.
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- called CS and subribed on 28th Dec 2009
- CS called to confirm the subcription on 29th Dec 2009 (met SLA)
- received call from installer to schedule for installation on 1st Jan 2010 (met SLA)
- 2nd Jan 2010 9pm sharp! installer reach door step! (again salute the time as promised by the installer)
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- to upgrade LCD / Plasma as found out during setup that 1 of the HDMI port (LCD) KOYAK!!!!! cry.gif mad.gif vmad.gif


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QUOTE(auronthas @ Jan 2 2010, 10:37 AM)
I have followed this thread and V1 thread closely.

After observations, finally called Astro CS this morning to subscribe the Astro Beyond, I was told ESPN HD will be made available very very soon in Jan. Hopefully within 24 hours, I would receive call from Astro to arrange for AB installer. and AB installation within 10 working days.  Cheers.

I even asked Astro CS is any privilege for pioneer subscribers like myself (member since 1998 :haha ), she told me that Astro may have promotions for loyal subscribers.  I wish they will keep to their promise, they should not aim for new subscriber but also to 'maintain' their existing subscriber though there are the sole satellite TV service provider currently.
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is it really have any promotion for loyal subscribers?
but my current subscription are starting on 2005,
before this is under my dad's name,
but we cancel the subscription and use the 'newer' decoder from my rental house..

hopefully astro will provide us the promotion,
i do not get any promotion except of free 1 month AOD subscription,
as my asked my colleague,
she said she does not get it.. smile.gif
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one sharing; just realized if press the "Back" button, this will change to the previous channel, if press the "Back" button again then it will move back to the current channel.
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i still dont know how to change #1 Measat 3 to #18 Measat 3A (which give better reception around 90% 250). Pls anybody can help (i remember someone mention in earlier thread V1)? sad.gif
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I'm just wondering, why ASTRO's new decoder didnt have a setting to output default resolutions as it is broadcasted? For example if the channel is 576i, then just output that, etc... instead of forcing us to choose 720p or 1080i... I understand this option allows hd ready tv to be viewed, but if only they could include another option with "Broadcasted resolution".
Broadcast resolution? I like this thing. biggrin.gif
But not so sure whether other tv broadcaster such as SKY TV also implement this setting.

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Granada TV is actually replacing BBC Entertainment...
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I'm not happy with the change, tho. I want back BBCE. I watch Red Dwarf on that channel -.-

(Stupid Metrovision last time cancel the show halfway, typical of Malaysian TV stations)

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Broadcast resolution? I like this thing.  biggrin.gif
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An option I'd like to see is i60 pull-up. For various reasons.

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An option I'd like to see is i60 pull-up. For various reasons.
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1080i60 consumes as much data as 1080p30.


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Hehe..most of us here are consider loyal subsribers bcos there are the only Satleite pay4view operator here biggrin.gif

QUOTE(auronthas @ Jan 2 2010, 10:37 AM)
I even asked Astro CS is any privilege for pioneer subscribers like myself (member since 1998 :haha ), she told me that Astro may have promotions for loyal subscribers.  I wish they will keep to their promise, they should not aim for new subscriber but also to 'maintain' their existing subscriber though there are the sole satellite TV service provider currently.
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1080i60 consumes as much data as 1080p30.
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yah, but I dun mean Astro transmit in 1080i60. I mean just include an option for the decoder to pull the signal up to 1080i60 from 1080i50 (or 720p60 from 720p50). Because currently only got two companies making HDMI video capture card for PC (Auzentech's not out yet). Only BlackMagic Design's card support 1080i50. AVerMedia's card only support 1080i60. But AVerMedia's card is very much cheaper and comes with a WinMCE plugin so can view 1080 res image on HD LCD display. Sure, they dun sell the AVerMedia here, but buying from Amazon and then sending to VPost still way cheaper than getting a BlackMagic locally. 1U MacAsia want RM1200 for the BlackMagic Intensity. My calculations tell me that the AVerMedia card comes up to only RM450 if buy from Amazon then ship to vPost. And I'm sure surely got older 1st gen HD-ready TV that cannot support 50Hz HD...

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Hehe..most of us here are consider loyal subsribers bcos there are the only Satleite pay4view operator here  biggrin.gif
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Dunno why nobody wants to support DeTV...

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yah, but I dun mean Astro transmit in 1080i60. I mean just include an option for the decoder to pull the signal up to 1080i60 from 1080i50 (or 720p60 from 720p50). Because currently only got two companies making HDMI video capture card for PC (Auzentech's not out yet). Only BlackMagic Design's card support 1080i50. AVerMedia's card only support 1080i60. But AVerMedia's card is very much cheaper and comes with a WinMCE plugin so can view 1080 res image on HD LCD display. Sure, they dun sell the AVerMedia here, but buying from Amazon and then sending to VPost still way cheaper than getting a BlackMagic locally. 1U MacAsia want RM1200 for the BlackMagic Intensity. My calculations tell me that the AVerMedia card comes up to only RM450 if buy from Amazon then ship to vPost. And I'm sure surely got older 1st gen HD-ready TV that cannot support 50Hz HD...
Dunno why nobody wants to support DeTV...

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Har? If astro does allow that option, I'd rather not select it.... because there goes all the progressive frames if you choose 1080i60 since it will definitely be interpolated... and the fact that we are in PAL region.... videos that are PAL native which could be progressive frames extractable be ruined by the interpolation....
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Har? If astro does allow that option, I'd rather not select it.... because there goes all the progressive frames if you choose 1080i60 since it will definitely be interpolated... and the fact that we are in PAL region.... videos that are PAL native which could be progressive frames extractable be ruined by the interpolation....
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Astro transmit 1080p? I thought they only transmit 1080i?

In any case tho, the idea is for support for cheaper HDMI video capture cards. RM1200 is a lot, and sumore no guaranteed support for usage in WinMCE. Otoh, Avermedia's card got support guaranteed, but won't receive 50Hz input (I had a long talk with their support staff). And there's no equivalent in Asian region. Only US have AVerMedia HDMI video capture cards.

Edit: turns out that the Auzentech's HDMI cannot be used for capture at all...

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The only thing I can say is - if we love watching advertisement sin HD... then we are going to love Astro Byond. It's a cable channel that we pay for - yet we seem to have just as much adverts... what's the point?
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Astro transmit 1080p? I thought they only transmit 1080i?

In any case tho, the idea is for support for cheaper HDMI video capture cards. RM1200 is a lot, and sumore no guaranteed support for usage in WinMCE. Otoh, Avermedia's card got support guaranteed, but won't receive 50Hz input (I had a long talk with their support staff). And there's no equivalent in Asian region. Only US have AVerMedia HDMI video capture cards.

Dunno if Auzentech's upcoming card can support 50Hz input...
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Yes astro transmits 1080i only... not P..but in those 1080i frames, there could be progressive too, especially HBO HD. Most films are shot in 24fps, but when it comes to PAL region, it will be faster 4% to 25fps (this goes the same to PAL dvd's...the movies are 4% faster in speed...thus the run length time is shorter).... and if you notice astro's SD channels, like hbo... they tend to be progressive frames even though it was broadcasted in 25i... you wont see interlacing lines on the movie itself, but maybe on those hbo's own animated logo like "you are now watching xxxx"

so I'm very sure most...not all of HBO HD movies broadcasted could be progressive frames too but in interlaced transmission lol... (actually i dont know how to explain it well all these term, all i know is when you put those video inside TMPGENC and select the correct field order and frame...walla all progressive frames, no deinterlacing required...thats what I did with my recorded medias =P and of course it really depends on the show. If you are talking about concerts...then the chances are very little, but if u are talking about EU/PAL region shot music video, US series, yeah they are mostly seen to be progressive in mtv/[v]/star world )

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Hehe..most of us here are consider loyal subsribers bcos there are the only Satleite pay4view operator here  biggrin.gif
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Hi fellow Byonder, my byond set was installed on the 26th of Dec, good pq and all but the installer left a bitter taste in my mouth. Rude and cunning, he took both of my decoders and RM80.00 as well. When I enquired with Astro a few days later, they said no such thing, so they contacted the installer to refund my RM80, yet on the 31st, he gave my mom only the old decoder but refused to refund RM80, instead offered only RM60 if we really want to take cash.

I refused to succumbed to the scum and made numerous reports to Astro( still under investigation) and i just came back from Astro Ipoh, which they told me Astro KL got it wrong in the their T&C as my second decoder was under the 50% promotion campaign so I need to keep the decoder and have to pay RM80. I felt that they are siding witht he installer. I would like to ask fellow lyners, if any of you changed both decoders and need to pay RM80 ? Thanks
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Astro transmit 1080p? I thought they only transmit 1080i?

In any case tho, the idea is for support for cheaper HDMI video capture cards. RM1200 is a lot, and sumore no guaranteed support for usage in WinMCE. Otoh, Avermedia's card got support guaranteed, but won't receive 50Hz input (I had a long talk with their support staff). And there's no equivalent in Asian region. Only US have AVerMedia HDMI video capture cards.

Edit: turns out that the Auzentech's HDMI cannot be used for capture at all...
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Most HDTV production is 1080p, it's just transmission that is 1080i as it uses less bandwidth.
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I didn't pay a single cent when I returned the decoder. So you got screwed.
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I wasn't charged the RM80 either. I think the T&C is that as long as the set is complete working condition there's no charge. I return my decoder, remote and dish, but kept the wiring.
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no charge at all as the installer came to setup this morning.
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- configure favorite channel but no respond even press on the Fav button.
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I kept my Astro Max decoder and gave the installer an old decoder instead. As long as the decoder is working, it's ok, and I didn't pay anything either.

So, yes, you got screwed!
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I wasn't charged the RM80 either. I think the T&C is that as long as the set is complete working condition there's no charge. I return my decoder, remote and dish, but kept the wiring.
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Greeting Guys
now me register for b.yond at the website
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after install the next month bill will start charge more Rm20 ?
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Just wanna ask, anyone here have tried connecting astro byond using Monster HDMI Cable? Any "different" in PQ and SQ maybe??  biggrin.gif
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I'm Not Using Monster HD Cable but when i use my 24k gold plated hdmi cable.....the sd channels become much more clearer......and the hd channels have also some slight improvement..........Dark Knight on HBO HD really got diff......Can see the jokers paint very detail.... biggrin.gif .....also if i use the astro hdmi cable....the picture will be slightly blurred when there are too much action....but with my other cable...picture is more smoother... biggrin.gif

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no charge at all as the installer came to setup this morning.
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- remote control
- hdmi cable
- power adapter
- guide & warranty card
- 1 rim of coaxial cable (not sure how long but quite big rim)

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- configure favorite channel but no respond even press on the Fav button.
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i nvr get coaxial cable oso...i had to buy from shop mad.gif

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The installer have taken your coaxial cable.

Astro B.yond Campaign Terms & Conditions

This Campaign comes with a standard installation which includes:
a.Labour;
b.bare surface run cable with clips (includes 20m cable and F-connectors);
c.Transportation;
d. Basic connectivity to TV;
e. Activation of the Astro B.yond Box;
f. Demonstration on operations of the Astro B.yond Box and its features; and
g. 6 months installation workmanship warranty.

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I'm Not Using Monster HD Cable but when i use my 24k gold plated hdmi cable.....the sd channels become much more clearer......and the hd channels have also some slight improvement..........Dark Knight on HBO HD really got diff......Can see the jokers paint very detail.... biggrin.gif .....also if i use the astro hdmi cable....the picture will be slightly blurred when there are too much action....but with my other cable...picture is more smoother... biggrin.gif

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i nvr get coaxial cable oso...i had to buy from shop  mad.gif
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Gold plated HDMI vs Astro HDMI cable will have no difference considering the signal of both source are digital.

If you notice any difference, its probably the placebo effect.
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The installer have taken your coaxial cable.

Astro B.yond Campaign Terms & Conditions

This Campaign comes with a standard installation which includes:
a.Labour;
b.bare surface run cable with clips (includes 20m cable and F-connectors);
c.Transportation;
d. Basic connectivity to TV;
e. Activation of the Astro B.yond Box;
f. Demonstration on operations of the Astro B.yond Box and its features; and
g. 6 months installation workmanship warranty.
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but they nvr include the coaxial cable in the package also....thats why i never ask....haizzzz that means i spent rm 40 for nothing......lolzz

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Gold plated HDMI vs Astro HDMI cable will have no difference considering the signal of both source are digital.

If you notice any difference, its probably the placebo effect.
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placebo effect?????


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The installer should have given you the 20 meter wire for future use if he did not install it for you. The wire was included in the package.
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Well, he gave me 5M because previous to this I got extend the cable myself using some cheap antenna cables. He took back the remaining 15M. Cheap antenna cable I keep.

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placebo effect?????
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_effect

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well...i'm not the only one saying there is diffrence my whole family says got diffrence...and i nvr told them that i switched my hdmi cable.... biggrin.gif
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No it will not make any difference. I challenge you to find an article that supports gold plated HDMI improves picture quality.
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Gold plated HDMI vs Astro HDMI cable will have no difference considering the signal of both source are digital.

If you notice any difference, its probably the placebo effect.
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i don't see any major noticable improvement over PQ on both SD & HD channels too when i switched from Astro provided HDMI cable and the gold-plated one given FOC for my Pana plasma purchase.

however i do notice that the Pana's HDMI cable is slightly bigger in terms of diamater as compared to Astro's.
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Gold plated HDMI vs Astro HDMI cable will have no difference considering the signal of both source are digital.

If you notice any difference, its probably the placebo effect.
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Exactly my thoughts when i first read that post.... its digital signal... no way in hell it will improve the PQ ..its either got picture or no picture... =__=... so those watever expensive monster cables for hdmi is just monster in price but still the same thing with a brandless hdmi cable for rm20....
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yeah, got screwed royally, luckily went to astro ipoh there enquired about the RM80, if not that fella sure profit a lot. Now lodged complaint against this installer, unethical pos!!!
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Most HDTV production is 1080p, it's just transmission that is 1080i as it uses less bandwidth.
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Right now, the majority of pro HD cameras on sale to be used for news coverage or concert are in 1080p only because the price difference is minimal (the bigger cost is in storage media). But back before BD, the majority of those cameras are in 1080i only since that was the standard in HD broadcasting. Look at some of the earlier concert recordings on BD and you'll see that they are only 1080i. These are the shot-on-video productions.

Back before the RED, TV shows are shot using film then telecined to 1080i with EFX also in 1080i. With the RED (and other pro digital cameras) they can shoot at 2Kwhile still maintaining the film look and ask for VFX work at 2K as well. The final cut for archive will be at 2K then they deliver a downconverted 1080i. Some shows are still using 35mm and some are using 16mm (BBC dramas).

Astro/RTM can start investing in 1080p cameras only if they want to archive or sell their RTM concerts and shows on BD. If it's just for news coverage, they can get a whole bunch of 1080i cameras since that's the broadcast standard.

With B.yond, Astro has pushed (not like other's didn't try before) the HD bandwagon further for Malaysia. I think that in the next couple of years, the pro HD camera and post pro businesses will boom because of the amount of shows that production companies need to deliver to Astro in HD. If RTM says they are going to HD soon, that will cause a bigger boom. The HD expansion will also cause make-up artists to be extra careful with their work, and the same thing is true for set designers and gaffers.

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well...i'm not the only one saying there is diffrence my whole family says got diffrence...and i nvr told them that i switched my hdmi cable.... biggrin.gif
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Here's a simple analogy: Think of the HDMI cable as an intranet e-mail system (intranet is internal network system as opposed to external ie internet). It's job is to ensure that each e-mail and its attachment are sent perfectly and timely.

Now say using the "Astro provided" intranet, e-mails received look exactly the same as they did when they were sent. But using the "Monster" intranet, the e-mails received seem to look brighter, with more crispness and cute backgrounds then they did before they were sent. The rational reasoning could only be two: 1) The Monster intranet is adding things to the signal that you didn't ask it to do; or 2) it's all in your head aka placebo effect.

The same argument is used when people talk about DTS HDMA and Dolby TrueHD on BD players. The sound should sound the same whether you let the player bitstream it to a HD receiver or if the player decodes it and sends the MPCM to the HD receiver. If it sounds better decoded by the HD receiver, then the receiver is sweetening the audio without you asking it to. For purists, that's a no-no.


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I gave a call to CS yesterday regarding to the beyond things. They told me that we are a subscriber since 1996, so they are giving us a much better deal. Everything will be free, decoder, satelite, remote control, installation. And it will be free until april 2010. Is this consider a better deal? How many of you are actually a member since 1996-1998 and get a better benefits than me?

Ok, one more thing, as i might be relocating to another house soon, they told me if i stay with my current package, they will charge me RM150 for relocating. But if i subscribed astro beyong, then they will waive all the fees, i don't know how true is that, or the installer will charge me a fee for installation?

I'm about taking all the packages, imagine that i'm now paying RM18x every month.
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ehh actually all of us getting the same offer-lah free everything till Apr 2010...mana ada only for pioneer subscribers..u kena con by them liao.
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I gave a call to CS yesterday regarding to the beyond things. They told me that we are a subscriber since 1996, so they are giving us a much better deal. Everything will be free, decoder, satelite, remote control, installation. And it will be free until april 2010. Is this consider a better deal? How many of you are actually a member since 1996-1998 and get a better benefits than me?

Ok, one more thing, as i might be relocating to another house soon, they told me if i stay with my current package, they will charge me RM150 for relocating. But if i subscribed astro beyong, then they will waive all the fees, i don't know how true is that, or the installer will charge me a fee for installation?

I'm about taking all the packages, imagine that i'm now paying RM18x every month.
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lol.....not only for old subscribers between 1996-1998...everyone gets this deal......
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On the 1080i60 pull up request, I don't think Astro will entertain that, especially if they somehow figured that the intention is to record off HDMI... tongue.gif

I believe that it is possible that up to 70% of the world population has PAL 50Hz transmission, so the 60Hz (59.94Hz to be exact) community is a minority but they like to think that they rule the world... tongue.gif Pulling up a 576i (50Hz) transmission to 1080i60 at the decoder is going to cause a noticeable blurriness effect every few frames, same with 1080i50 going to 1080i60.

When I was in the US for work years ago, I knew I was not impressed by British shows on cable there that has been converted from PAL 576i to NTSC 480i (fully SD back then). In fact, the picture looks much better the other way around: NTSC 480i shows converted to PAL 576i as being done by all our local TV stations, Astro included.

Anyway, so is it true that the 1080i50 broadcast is actually derived from 1080p25 feeds, if it is, it helped explain the lack of deinterlacing artifacts, and the resolution is a perfect full HD. This is the way to go...
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LOL. Yeah everyone get the same deal. You may have misread my statement. It's just my wish that Astro should consider their loyal subscribers.

Oh yeah, I just got a call from Astro marketing that Astro installer will call me for appointment within 10 working days from today, pretty fast from my first call this morning.
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On the 1080i60 pull up request, I don't think Astro will entertain that, especially if they somehow figured that the intention is to record off HDMI...  tongue.gif

I believe that it is possible that up to 70% of the world population has PAL 50Hz transmission, so the 60Hz (59.94Hz to be exact) community is a minority but they like to think that they rule the world... tongue.gif  Pulling up a 576i (50Hz) transmission to 1080i60 at the decoder is going to cause a noticeable blurriness effect every few frames, same with 1080i50 going to 1080i60.

When I was in the US for work years ago, I knew I was not impressed by British shows on cable there that has been converted from PAL 576i to NTSC 480i (fully SD back then). In fact, the picture looks much better the other way around: NTSC 480i shows converted to PAL 576i as being done by all our local TV stations, Astro included.

Anyway, so is it true that the 1080i50 broadcast is actually derived from 1080p25 feeds, if it is, it helped explain the lack of deinterlacing artifacts, and the resolution is a perfect full HD. This is the way to go...
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Hrm... I dont know about you, but I really dislike NTSC 480i shows being converted to 576i.

There are 2 kinds of conversion done.

One is the easy way which is from 29.97fps directly to 25fps... which causes terrible jerkiness in the motion of the video. This is the worst kind of scenario I usually face. Because if you deinterlace the video, no matter its odd field or even field... it will cause jerkiness to the motion. If you use field blending method, it causes ghosting effect, which makes it bad. This kind of conversion is often done to music videos channel. If that music video is really rare and I cant find it elsewhere, I had to stick with it, encoding it in interlaced mode as to keep those lines, let the tv bob deinterlace it... cause only this way the motion stays the best while not causing the ghosting effect.

The other way is kinda long winded, the 29.97fps shows were inverse telecined to 23.97fps and then only fasten by 4% to 25fps. This is commonly done in those US series and you can notice those shows are fully progressive when viewed using a tv card, rtm and other channels in PAL asia countries does the same thing. This method is really good for me, because the main point is keeping those video frame progressive, yeah the audio is off a little faster but i'm still cool with it. For example, Madonna's music video "Celebration" were done this way, so as Paramore's "Decode". Was really surprised to see such thing here because its a very rare case. Usually most music videos were done using the method above.


But have you ever play with a PAL 576i shows converted to NTSC 480i?

Of course this would be bad too but when you deinterlace the video, the motion stays smooth...thats the beauty of it. Choose odd or even field deinterlace, you don't get the jerky crap as of the above situation. Its really funny how this works, but yeah this is what I've noticed playing with it. Not that i support such scenario.

In fact, I'd rather prefer if they broadcast both NTSC and PAL together lol...though it will be annoying to see ure tv gone blank for a while changing to NTSC format when the NTSC video is being broadcasted etc haha.. Keep the original format as it is. Broadcast as it is, instead of convert this n that....really degrades the video quality by doing so. But since HD is the same resolution already, they should maybe get unified and stick with one fps to standardize the whole thing instead of converting here and there.

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1 question:

If i pay RM20, do i get all the 5 channels?

In the future, if astro add some more HD channels, do i have to pay more?
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If i pay RM20, do i get all the 5 channels?

In the future, if astro add some more HD channels, do i have to pay more?
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First question: It depends on your subscribed package, i.e. Sport - you get sport HD, Movie - you get movie HD, etc.

Second question: I asked the same question to CS, no one can tell at the moment.
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First question: It depends on your subscribed package, i.e. Sport - you get sport HD, Movie - you get movie HD, etc.

Second question: I asked the same question to CS, no one can tell at the moment.
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I've asked the 2nd q before, they told me depends on astro's future management. So... you got what that means right? There is a high possible chance they will increase the fee lol

Added on January 2, 2010, 5:42 pmwoohoooo the installer just called! My astro byond coming tomorrow =) ...feeling excited now ^^

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woohoooo the installer just called! My astro byond coming tomorrow =) ...feeling excited now ^^
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That's a good news, so nice. How long did you wait between the call from Astro marketing?
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That's a good news, so nice. How long did you wait between the call from Astro marketing?
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Call from Astro marketing was fast...within days.... but waiting for installer to come was long =__=... 15th dec till now... bleh!
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Hrm... I dont know about you, but I really dislike NTSC 480i shows being converted to 576i.

There are 2 kinds of conversion done.
Actually, compared to native 576i shows (studio news, local/HK/Singapore series, etc), those US shows converted from 480i still sucks big time, but there's not much we can do as an end user (except complaint of course). Yes, I have seen plenty of 480i music videos ripped in a 576i country, some have ghosting effect, others are just plain jerky, while the good ones must be the ones that have gone through the inverse telecine method. But, when converting from 23.97fps to 25fps, can they repeat a frame every 24th frame to avoid speeding up the video? There will be some jerkiness, but at least the audio note won't change. If I'm not wrong, speeding up the audio will entail reencoding/resampling the audio again as the sampling rate of 48kHz must be maintained, of course audio resampling is less processor intensive than video processing.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 05:09 PM)
But have you ever play with a PAL 576i shows converted to NTSC 480i?
The closest I have for a 576i converted to 480i is a F1 race telecast that I missed and had to grab it from somewhere, my HTPC was set to 1080p60, but the movement is still not smooth either, very annoying, must be my HTPC. I should have tried setting the output to 1080p50 but I forgot.

QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 05:09 PM)
In fact, I'd rather prefer if they broadcast both NTSC and PAL together lol...though it will be annoying to see ure tv gone blank for a while changing to NTSC format when the NTSC video is being broadcasted etc haha.. Keep the original format as it is. Broadcast as it is, instead of convert this n that....really degrades the video quality by doing so. But since HD is the same resolution already, they should maybe get unified and stick with one fps to standardize the whole thing instead of converting here and there.
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Well, the world is never ever unified... but we're getting there, very slowly... the frame rates are still not the same and will remain that way for quite some time.
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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 2 2010, 06:15 PM)
Actually, compared to native 576i shows (studio news, local/HK/Singapore series, etc), those US shows converted from 480i still sucks big time, but there's not much we can do as an end user (except complaint of course). Yes, I have seen plenty of 480i music videos ripped in a 576i country, some have ghosting effect, others are just plain jerky, while the good ones must be the ones that have gone through the inverse telecine method. But, when converting from 23.97fps to 25fps, can they repeat a frame every 24th frame to avoid speeding up the video? There will be some jerkiness, but at least the audio note won't change. If I'm not wrong, speeding up the audio will entail reencoding/resampling the audio again as the sampling rate of 48kHz must be maintained, of course audio resampling is less processor intensive than video processing.


The closest I have for a 576i converted to 480i is a F1 race telecast that I missed and had to grab it from somewhere, my HTPC was set to 1080p60, but the movement is still not smooth either, very annoying, must be my HTPC. I should have tried setting the output to 1080p50 but I forgot.


Well, the world is never ever unified... but we're getting there, very slowly... the frame rates are still not the same and will remain that way for quite some time.
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I would say repeating a frame on every 24th frame will cause massive jerkiness because its 25fps...every second you will see the video got "stuck" a bit lol. I remembered playing with the audio. There is a way to maintain the note of the vocals, but the tempo would be faster etc... cant really recall but cool edit pro can do such fix... just that the end product from cool edit pro isnt that nice... if they were using some more precise hardware based encoder it should be fine because i couldnt notice much difference between those 2 converted and non converted audio tone but the tempo yes, beats a lil faster when compared together, if you casually stumbled upon the video... i cant really tell the diff.

As for live telecast ... I cant comment much because I never really played with those video. But since it is recorded live, most of the time it will be interlaced without doubt for SD except for some rare occasions like one of the mtv ema awards...cant recall which year.... it was fully progressive shown in mtvasia over here.... that really shocked me too lol
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still no news from astro sabah yet, oh mai, are we being left out here?? damn jeles haha
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 06:00 PM)
Call from Astro marketing was fast...within days.... but waiting for installer to come was long =__=... 15th dec till now... bleh!
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Hahaha. rclxms.gif Ur location?
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Hahaha.  rclxms.gif  Ur location?
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my fren call astro monday morning..astro call him monday afternoon.
thursday installer call and tadaaa..can wath beyond

demm..how fast.take 4 day to complete.me almost 2 week tongue.gif
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QUOTE(honamd77 @ Jan 2 2010, 07:03 PM)
my fren call astro monday morning..astro call him monday afternoon.
thursday installer call and tadaaa..can wath beyond

demm..how fast.take 4 day to complete.me almost 2 week tongue.gif
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yesterday installer call 2.30pm and... happy new year wit astro HD rclxm9.gif
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I registered online. 24 hrs already but no T&C call. Should I call them instead? Or will they definitely call after we registered online?
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Mine call in for register.. no one call after 24.. At night register again online.. the next morning astro call for confirmation..

no harm to re-register through call-in.. At least one of then will works.

Got my astro within 3 days after they call me for confirmation..

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I registered online. 24 hrs already but no T&C call. Should I call them instead? Or will they definitely call after we registered online?
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 2 2010, 07:44 PM)
Mine call in for register.. no one call after 24.. At night register again online.. the next morning astro call for confirmation..

no harm to re-register through call-in.. At least one of then will works.

Got my astro within 3 days after they call me for confirmation..
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Called Astro CS just now to register again. Was informed that Byond's marketing team will only probably call me on Monday, since they are on holiday till Sunday. Haiyah! sweat.gif
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Broadcast resolution? I like this thing.  biggrin.gif
But not so sure whether other tv broadcaster such as SKY TV also implement this setting.
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Having used Sky, DirectTV, FoxTel and many other decoders, NONE of them switch the output to the TV. In ALL cases the decoder is set to one resolution and the chips in the box do the conversion.

One of the biggest criticisms of Digital TV in the early days was channel surf times, the delay between switching channels. If the TV switched modes then this would be worse! Hence the fixed mode output.


Typically, channel surf times become less of an issue as people start using the EPG to find programs, rather than channel surf. Now that Astro B.yond has a decent EPG we should stop being a nation of surfers and become searchers!
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I gave a call to CS yesterday regarding to the beyond things. They told me that we are a subscriber since 1996, so they are giving us a much better deal. Everything will be free, decoder, satelite, remote control, installation. And it will be free until april 2010. Is this consider a better deal? How many of you are actually a member since 1996-1998 and get a better benefits than me?

Ok, one more thing, as i might be relocating to another house soon, they told me if i stay with my current package, they will charge me RM150 for relocating. But if i subscribed astro beyong, then they will waive all the fees, i don't know how true is that, or the installer will charge me a fee for installation?

I'm about taking all the packages, imagine that i'm now paying RM18x every month.
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everyone here is getting the same deal...free until april
i'm also a subscriber from 1998 as well....
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM)
Har? If astro does allow that option, I'd rather not select it.... because there goes all the progressive frames if you choose 1080i60 since it will definitely be interpolated... and the fact that we are in PAL region.... videos that are PAL native which could be progressive frames extractable be ruined by the interpolation....
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The whole point of HDMI (1.1) is that it has HDCP (copy protection), hence the component output is SD only. If Astro were to "allow" copying via HDMI then most HD channels would have to be taken down as the content owners insist that HDCP is present.

Most movie channels also insist that Macrovision is used, even though we know it is useless. Should HDMI with HDCP become compromised the content owners will still insist it is there just to make it either difficult or expensive to copy their valuable HD content.
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Don't forget to update the list of users which is currently stood at 30..i think there are more..probably all eyeeing for good no liao.
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Add me in. Just got my astro byond today. thumbup.gif
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add me in pls. in kuching, sarawak. got byond install this morning. need to upgrade my LCD coz no HDMI. currently using component cables. tv shows 576i. however no happy coz they use and install dish same as old model. installer said new dish out of stock but can use old dish. is this correct?

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QUOTE(stryfox @ Jan 2 2010, 08:39 PM)
add me in pls. in kuching, sarawak. got byond install this morning. need to upgrade my LCD coz no HDMI. currently using component cables. tv shows 576i. however no happy coz they use and install dish same as old model. installer said new dish out of stock but can use old dish. is this correct?
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I think you can start to write complain letter to Astro to complain the Installer cause if you got decoder their there must be a dish accompany with it. The dish is slight difference from previous one.

There is impossible out of stock.

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QUOTE(stryfox @ Jan 2 2010, 08:39 PM)
add me in pls. in kuching, sarawak. got byond install this morning. need to upgrade my LCD coz no HDMI. currently using component cables. tv shows 576i. however no happy coz they use and install dish same as old model. installer said new dish out of stock but can use old dish. is this correct?
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I'm in the same boat as you do. Using old dish instead of new ones. Maybe I'll be more demanding once signal starts to degrade. For now I can still watch HD.
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is there any different using old dish and new dish? anyone can explain? installer installed brand new dish but old model not the one as shown in astro website. how to complaint? take picture as proof?
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jan 2 2010, 06:44 PM)
still no news from astro sabah yet, oh mai, are we being left out here?? damn jeles haha
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yup...i just go to astro this afternoon
they checked...still pending
i say u better install it within next week or i will complain to SKMM
but even the girl also cannot guareentee...lol
she say will send some e-mail for this matter...forgot to where already
i also waited from 15 dec....
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called astro cs just now..they say ESPN HD will show in end of january...sad...
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QUOTE(stryfox @ Jan 2 2010, 08:49 PM)
is there any different using old dish and new dish? anyone can explain? installer installed brand new dish but old model not the one as shown in astro website. how to complaint? take picture as proof?
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Talking of dish, I also didn't notice my dish is any different from previous one but I over heard from Installer that he said the head slight different from previous dish. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kuekss @ Jan 2 2010, 08:54 PM)
called astro cs just now..they say ESPN HD will show in end of january...sad...
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Hopefully not in end of february. Hahaha. Their promise is always sux.
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jan 2 2010, 06:44 PM)
still no news from astro sabah yet, oh mai, are we being left out here?? damn jeles haha
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Sure jeles... I cannot see any black dish in Beaufort except at the Astro Authorised Retailer.. lol... mad.gif

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Having used Sky, DirectTV, FoxTel and many other decoders, NONE of them switch the output to the TV. In ALL cases the decoder is set to one resolution and the chips in the box do the conversion.

One of the biggest criticisms of Digital TV in the early days was channel surf times, the delay between switching channels. If the TV switched modes then this would be worse! Hence the fixed mode output.
Typically, channel surf times become less of an issue as people start using the EPG to find programs, rather than channel surf. Now that Astro B.yond has a decent EPG we should stop being a nation of surfers and become searchers!
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It is means astro also can be infected with this delay problem if a lot of people surf the channel?
Until now I dont have any problem when surfing channel.
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Does LG 32LH20R supports HDCP???

I need to buy an LCD TV (if can) before the installer comes....

I cannot afford to regret if the tv cannot display encrypted HD content...
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I am using Toshiba Regza 32CV500E, it is not Full HD, worth it to get B.YOND?
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I'm Not Using Monster HD Cable but when i use my 24k gold plated hdmi cable.....the sd channels become much more clearer......and the hd channels have also some slight improvement..........Dark Knight on HBO HD really got diff......Can see the jokers paint very detail.... biggrin.gif .....also if i use the astro hdmi cable....the picture will be slightly blurred when there are too much action....but with my other cable...picture is more smoother... biggrin.gif

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i nvr get coaxial cable oso...i had to buy from shop  mad.gif
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I am using Toshiba Regza 32CV500E, it is not Full HD, worth it to get B.YOND?
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Same model with me. I thinks should not any problem when using with byond.
BTW byond not broadcast in Full HD either.
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Anyone can recommend digital coaxial cable from decoder to tv dvi in? I dun hav home theater (yet). I only saw one type of digital coaxial cable at senq but need to connect to digital audio in @Av receiver
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QUOTE(stryfox @ Jan 2 2010, 08:39 PM)
add me in pls. in kuching, sarawak. got byond install this morning. need to upgrade my LCD coz no HDMI. currently using component cables. tv shows 576i. however no happy coz they use and install dish same as old model. installer said new dish out of stock but can use old dish. is this correct?
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I'm in the same boat as you do. Using old dish instead of new ones. Maybe I'll be more demanding once signal starts to degrade. For now I can still watch HD.
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hi, I am curious, did they change the LNB on your old dish? thanks
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Same model with me. I thinks should not any problem when using with byond.
BTW byond not broadcast in Full HD either.
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called astro cs just now..they say ESPN HD will show in end of january...sad...
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Hopefully not in end of february. Hahaha. Their promise is always sux.
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 2 2010, 09:13 PM)
Does LG 32LH20R supports HDCP???

I need to buy an LCD TV (if can) before the installer comes....

I cannot afford to regret if the tv cannot display encrypted HD content...
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Unless you're rich, don't rush in to buy a HDTV. Otherwise you'd have buyer's regret.

B.yond will be in HD regardless if your TV is not. So look around for a HDTV that you can afford with a picture quality you like with a design you like, then see if has HDCP as well as 2/3 HDMI inputs.

QUOTE(l_berd @ Jan 2 2010, 09:32 PM)
Anyone can recommend digital coaxial cable from decoder to tv dvi in? I dun hav home theater (yet). I only saw one type of digital coaxial cable at senq but need to connect to digital audio in @Av receiver
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dec 27: no t&c call, applied via cs
dec 28: called cs complaint that no t&c call
dec 29: t&c called
dec 30: sms from cs with installer phone no.
dec 30: called installer but was told that went back home town, can only install on jan 4
jan 2: installer called for installation tomorrow at 11am, yipee !

but when told installer that I have two acc and requested for two connector at the new dish, he said he will install new dish and keep the old one for old decoder, told him that some lyn forumer able to use one dish for both new & old decoder, he said he never done it before, need to check with astro...
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hi, I am curious, did they change the LNB on your old dish? thanks
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Yes, I should mention I am using the new dish, but its basically the same dish as the old Astro decoder (60cm instead of 65cm).
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 2 2010, 10:03 PM)
Unless you're rich, don't rush in to buy a HDTV. Otherwise you'd have buyer's regret.

B.yond will be in HD regardless if your TV is not. So look around for a HDTV that you can afford with a picture quality you like with a design you like, then see if has HDCP as well as 2/3 HDMI inputs.

If you have the red/white stereo cables, use that. It should work.
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Unless you're rich, don't rush in to buy a HDTV. Otherwise you'd have buyer's regret.

B.yond will be in HD regardless if your TV is not. So look around for a HDTV that you can afford with a picture quality you like with a design you like, then see if has HDCP as well as 2/3 HDMI inputs.

If you have the red/white stereo cables, use that. It should work.
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On the 1080i60 pull up request, I don't think Astro will entertain that, especially if they somehow figured that the intention is to record off HDMI...  tongue.gif
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Thing is, I'm not interested in recording off HDMI. It's just that it's been part of the plan to relay HD satellite to the HTPC since I built it. That's why the HTPC has the biggest screen and 5.1 speakers. Besides, in the future, the decoder will have PVR function (maybe have to pay and bring your own external USB hard disk), and I can always use composite to record. Right now the composite of the decoder is connected to my ye-olde-VCR (what is that? it's a magical device from the 1980s!) which can receive the SD image from the decoder fine with no problems at all.

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1 question:

If i pay RM20, do i get all the 5 channels?

In the future, if astro add some more HD channels, do i have to pay more?
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I noticed that if I press the I..II button on the remote (the language and subtitle button), then press OK after that, the volume will suddenly increase by quite abit. The volume will stay like this till you change the channel. Anyone else experienced this?
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all astro hd all 1920*1080 resolution, but the problem r the astro stream traffic just 8Mbit/s enough for the full hd standard, i found that some time similar broke pixel for the >42inch full hd lcd,

china cctv hd using 18Mbit/s to stream the channel
japan nhk hd using 12Mbit/s to stream the channel with 60Hz,

above all using dvb s-1 system, 1920*1080 resolution

compare with Fashion tv full hd using dvb s2 system with 7Mbit/s,

i am not sure which will be more HD, any ppl know about that?

vietnam satellite tv will broadcast 30hd + 70 sd tv this Q1 2010 with price just around RM60/month, do astro fair to malaysian??? whistling.gif

any ppl know astro using dvb s1/2 turner for the new receiver

DVB-S2 is used for:

Broadcasting television programs (BS, Broadcast Services) in SDTV or HDTV. Optionally, this transmission may be backwards compatible with DVB-S (Backwards-Compatible BS), but does not benefit from the 30% extra bandwidth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-S2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-S


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I wonder what is the optimum bitrate to watch full HD in the sharpest...
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QUOTE(chooncc @ Jan 2 2010, 10:55 PM)
all astro hd all 1920*1080 resolution, but the problem r the astro stream traffic just 8Mbit/s enough for the full hd standard, i found that some time similar broke pixel for the >42inch full hd lcd,

china cctv hd using 18Mbit/s to stream the channel
japan nhk hd using 12Mbit/s to stream the channel with 60Hz,

above all using dvb s-1 system, 1920*1080 resolution

compare with Fashion tv full hd using dvb s2 system with 7Mbit/s,

i am not sure which will be more HD, any ppl know about that?

vietnam satellite tv will broadcast 30hd + 70 sd tv this Q1 2010 with price just around RM60/month, do astro fair to malaysian??? whistling.gif

any ppl know astro using dvb s1/2 turner for the new receiver

DVB-S2 is used for:

Broadcasting television programs (BS, Broadcast Services) in SDTV or HDTV. Optionally, this transmission may be backwards compatible with DVB-S (Backwards-Compatible BS), but does not benefit from the 30% extra bandwidth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-S2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-S
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i just installed astro b.yond service but somehow i can't get any picture for HD channels only...i have sound but no video at all, i can only see a "locked" message on the screen...also, anyone knows how to change the resolution from the two vertical bars on the left/right to full screen on my TV? thanks all!
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just saw another full hd programme from china cctv1 not same as normal and cctv hd, different type, this programme also stream at 18Mbit/s

wat astro do for the malaysian??? just 8Mbits/s around 1Mbytes/s rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


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the audio in @ tv is the kind of line-in hole so don't think I can plug that on tv
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Anyone can recommend digital coaxial cable from decoder to tv dvi in? I dun hav home theater (yet). I only saw one type of digital coaxial cable at senq but need to connect to digital audio in @Av receiver

So are you trying to connect this digital coax to your TV's audio input using DVI in? If this is the case, then you DO use the red/white cables and depending on the audio in, you either use RCA-to-RCA stereo or RCA-to-miniplug stereo. THESE CABLES DELIVER ANALOG AUDIO, NOT DIGITAL.

If you want digital coax, it's using a single RCA cable to the digital coax IN to a receiver.

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Then you can search for the online manual/specs to know for sure if the HDTV has HDCP.

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all astro hd all 1920*1080 resolution,
Not really. Some channels/programs are only in 720p. The decoder can UPCONVERT the 720p to 1080i.

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but the problem r the astro stream traffic just 8Mbit/s enough for the full hd standard, i found that some time similar broke pixel for the >42inch full hd lcd,
First off, you need to know that you're not going to get master tape quality with B.yond HD. The closest to that is BD.

Secondly, since the video is not 1080p, 8 Mbps can still do a lot. You have to remember that H.264 is not like VCD where the MPEG-1 is at a constant bitrate. This is variable encoding where the bitrate is allocated higher if the scene is filled with more info. If the scene is a static blue screen, for example, it needs less than 2Mbps.

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china cctv hd using 18Mbit/s to stream the channel
japan nhk hd using 12Mbit/s to stream the channel with 60Hz,

above all using dvb s-1 system, 1920*1080 resolution
Sound like you claim these broadcasts are in 1080p. How are they transmitted anyways? OTA or satellite?

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compare with Fashion tv full hd using dvb s2 system with 7Mbit/s,

i am not sure which will be more HD, any ppl know about that?
MORE HD? Explain please.

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vietnam satellite tv will broadcast 30hd + 70 sd tv this Q1 2010 with price just around RM60/month, do astro fair to malaysian??? whistling.gif
What I know from Googling: Vietnam has only Vinasat-1 for now. It has 12 KU and 8 C transponders. So far they have these channels in HD: VTC HD 1, VTC HD 2, VTC HD 3, ESPN Asia HD, National Geographic Channel HD Asia, CCTV HD and Luxe TV HD. So using 20 transponders, they'll provide 30 HD channels and 70 SD channels sometime this year.

Measat 3 has 24 KU and 24 C transponders. Measat 3a has 12 KU and 12 C transponders (original info claims that it's only KU band). So combined, 72 transponders. No doubt a lot of it will be leased to other providers.

But just do the numbers. 30 HD channels with 20 transponders vs so far 4 HD channels with 72 transponders.

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No idea. But probably DVB S2 since the tech is already there and it allows for future expansion; once everyone migrates to B.yond, DVB MPEG-2 transmission can cease which will enable better picture quality. DVB S2 transmission is already being done aboard Measat 3 but not on Astro's downlink.


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i think astro will put many other hd channel as they have their medium to do that...the question is, is the other hd channel content can be within our culture...?malaysian tv are always think of that...
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I wonder what is the optimum bitrate to watch full HD in the sharpest...
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The highest on BD is about 34Mbps. That's just video at 1080p. But that's not sustainable and only used for scenes with many movement.


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Hoho live la liga match on HD now. Lost commentary for first 5 min but the fun is able to compare with ch811 n see the difference clearly
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 3 2010, 12:03 AM)
Here's what you post originally:

Not really. Some channels/programs are only in 720p. The decoder can UPCONVERT the 720p to 1080i.



i just mean the 5 hd channel, not all astro channel? do u see my post?

other all sd 720*576 or lower, wat i saw at the data stream, astro just provider 8Mbits/s, compare other country r 12-18Mbits/s whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 3 2010, 12:03 AM)
Here's what you post originally:

Sound like you claim these broadcasts are in 1080p. How are they transmitted anyways? OTA or satellite?


over satellite


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i just mean the 5 hd channel, not all astro channel? do u see my post?

other all sd 720*576 or lower, wat i saw at the data stream, astro just provider 8Mbits/s, compare other country r 12-18Mbits/s whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Mayb astro juz ngam2 adjust the data stream to save bandwidth... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 3 2010, 12:03 AM)
What I know from Googling: Vietnam has only Vinasat-1 for now. It has 12 KU and 8 C transponders. So far they have these channels in HD: VTC HD 1, VTC HD 2, VTC HD 3, ESPN Asia HD, National Geographic Channel HD Asia, CCTV HD and Luxe TV HD. So using 20 transponders, they'll provide 30 HD channels and 70 SD channels sometime this year.

Measat 3 has 24 KU and 24 C transponders. Measat 3a has 12 KU and 12 C transponders (original info claims that it's only KU band). So combined, 72 transponders. No doubt a lot of it will be leased to other providers.

But just do the numbers. 30 HD channels with 20 transponders vs so far 4 HD channels with 72 transponders.

No idea. But probably DVB S2 since the tech is already there and it allows for future expansion; once everyone migrates to B.yond, DVB MPEG-2 transmission can cease which will enable better picture quality. DVB S2 transmission is already being done aboard Measat 3 but not on Astro's downlink.
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dont u saw my post, i mean Q1 2010, mean this few month, wait for the news rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 3 2010, 12:03 AM)
Here's what you post originally:


MORE HD? Explain please.
compare wat i saw for the fashion tv full hd using the s2 system,
i saw the colour and pixel using 7Mbits/s vs astro full hd 5 channel, using 8Mbits/s
astro full hd totally lost, maybe of the master copy or transmiting problem

do S2 system more advanced compare the S1??? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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Oh yes, huge difference there!
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anyone can see huge different on HD Ready TV? (not full hd)
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QUOTE(chooncc @ Jan 3 2010, 02:02 AM)
i just mean the 5 hd channel, not all astro channel? do u see my post?

other all sd 720*576 or lower,
Of course I read your post. It's 1920x1080i but that's from the Astro's uplink side. If the football match they receive is at 720p, Astro can upconvert it and flag it at 1080i before uplinking it.

Don't confuse the downlink data stream with source resolution. A broadcaster can take 480p/576p source, upconvert it, flag it as 1080i, uplink that show and it still won't look like a true 1080i source. But the data stream will tell you it's 1080i.

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wat i saw at the data stream, astro just provider 8Mbits/s, compare other country r 12-18Mbits/s whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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I hope you understand the concept of variable encoding. And if you do, you'd understand that upper bandwidth limit is not set in stone (to a certain hardware degree). Astro can increase the bandwidth for each of the HD channels to 12-18 if it chooses to. At the same time, those NHK and CCTV could also decrease the bandwidth in the future. By the way, I checked the Chinasat 6B details. On that satellite, there's 4 HD channels, one of which is CCTV. All of those HD channels are uplinked using MPEG-2 which is less efficient at video encoding than H.264, which is what Astro is using for its HD channels. I can't find info about NHK but I bet they have more than two satellites on the air than Measat; more satellites means more transponders.

You could ask Astro technical department why they decide on 8Mbps and if they could bump it up to 12-18Mbps. Let us know what they say.


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dont u saw my post, i mean Q1 2010, mean this few month, wait for the news rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

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compare wat i saw for the fashion tv full hd using the s2 system,
i saw the colour and pixel using 7Mbits/s vs astro full hd 5 channel, using 8Mbits/s
astro full hd totally lost, maybe of the master copy or transmiting problem

do S2 system more advanced compare the S1??? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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those who moved on with S2, they are most likely using H264 compression. Since you said fashiontv is 7+Mbps...perhaps is S2 system with h264...astro is using s2 with h264 too, hence with the 8Mbps rate. Those 17-18Mbps ones uve mentioned seems to be mpeg-2...still s1 system perhaps?.... but 17-18Mbps mpeg-2 is almost similar to 8-9Mbps h264..... now if u found a channel using h264 at 17-18Mbps...then thats high quality =P
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dont u saw my post, i mean Q1 2010, mean this few month, wait for the news rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
I saw your post but you didn't seem to understand what I wrote.

Vinasat has 12 KU and 8 C transponders. Currently they have 7 HD channels. You said that by Q1 of 2010, they'll have 30 HD channels. If they are transmitting at 12 Mbps now, do you think they can sustain the same bandwidth to all 23 other HD channels using the same number of transponders? Take into account that by that same time they are increasing their SD channels from 21 to 70.

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compare wat i saw for the fashion tv full hd using the s2 system,
i saw the colour and pixel using 7Mbits/s vs astro full hd 5 channel, using 8Mbits/s
astro full hd totally lost, maybe of the master copy or transmiting problem
To make a fair comparison, you'd have to compare the same channels. Astro doesn't have Fashion TV HD. But the Asiasat 5 satellite also doesn't have 4 HD channels that Astro has. In fact, besides FTV HD, the only other HD channel is Luxe HD. Asiasat can up the bandwidth easily.

Also, Astro has not migrated to full DVB-S2 transmission which will increase their bandwidth by 30%. To migrate completely means that every Astro box will have to be changed to DVB-S2 box.

Of course, it's obvious now that you have one of those 6' wide C-band satellite dish on top of B.yond. Otherwise you won't have access to FTV HD, CCTV HD, Luxe or NHK HD.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 3 2010, 02:15 AM)
anyone can see huge different on HD Ready TV? (not full hd)
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As compared to standard definition TV? Of course.

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those who moved on with S2, they are most likely using H264 compression. Since you said fashiontv is 7+Mbps...perhaps is S2 system with h264...astro is using s2 with h264 too, hence with the 8Mbps rate.
Astro hasn't migrated to DVB-S2 yet. It's still transmitting from Measat 3 using DVB. That's probably why it's constraining bandwidth. Once they've migrated fully, bandwidth can be increased.

FTV HD on Asiasat 5 is DVB-S2 H.264.
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Those 17-18Mbps ones uve mentioned seems to be mpeg-2...still s1 system perhaps?.... but 17-18Mbps mpeg-2 is almost similar to 8-9Mbps h264..... now if u found a channel using h264 at 17-18Mbps...then thats high quality =P
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CCTV is still using MPEG-2 hence the higher bit-rate.


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Oh, but the quality will be as clear as the one on Electronic shop or not?
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hi,sorry guys wanna ask something,i found out when i using 576p and 720p picture more clear compare to 1080 when watching sd channel,(using 40inc lcd fullhd)just my eyes or its true?u all people realy advance than astro customer service.s1 n s2 i really dono wat is it.cannot follow. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(taq_gt @ Jan 3 2010, 07:03 AM)
hi,sorry guys wanna ask something,i found out when i using 576p and 720p picture more clear compare to 1080 when watching sd channel,(using 40inc lcd fullhd)just my eyes or its true?u all people realy advance than astro customer service.s1 n s2 i really dono wat is it.cannot follow. rclxub.gif
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Added on January 3, 2010, 7:49 amAnyone here knew when will the HD channel carry the movie subtitle?

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how many buttons to press in order to change output modes 576 720 1080

btw i didnt realize or believe astro SD is in 576 resolution as DVD only 480
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QUOTE(aerobowl @ Jan 3 2010, 09:08 AM)
how many buttons to press in order to change output modes 576 720 1080

btw i didnt realize or believe astro SD is in 576 resolution as DVD only 480
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nah you can believe that because there are 2 types of dvd, PAL and NTSC region. NTSC region dvds are 480...PAL dvds are 576....since we are in PAL region, astro is using 576 indeed smile.gif
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I saw your post but you didn't seem to understand what I wrote.

Vinasat has 12 KU and 8 C transponders. Currently they have 7 HD channels. You said that by Q1 of 2010, they'll have 30 HD channels. If they are transmitting at 12 Mbps now, do you think they can sustain the same bandwidth to all 23 other HD channels using the same number of transponders? Take into account that by that same time they are increasing their SD channels from 21 to 70.

To make a fair comparison, you'd have to compare the same channels. Astro doesn't have Fashion TV HD. But the Asiasat 5 satellite also doesn't have 4 HD channels that Astro has. In fact, besides FTV HD, the only other HD channel is Luxe HD. Asiasat can up the bandwidth easily.

Also, Astro has not migrated to full DVB-S2 transmission which will increase their bandwidth by 30%. To migrate completely means that every Astro box will have to be changed to DVB-S2 box.

Of course, it's obvious now that you have one of those 6' wide C-band satellite dish on top of B.yond. Otherwise you won't have access to FTV HD, CCTV HD, Luxe or NHK HD.
Yes. It allows for more interactivity.

As compared to standard definition TV? Of course.

Added on January 3, 2010, 3:01 am Astro hasn't migrated to DVB-S2 yet. It's still transmitting from Measat 3 using DVB. That's probably why it's constraining bandwidth. Once they've migrated fully, bandwidth can be increased.

FTV HD on Asiasat 5 is DVB-S2 H.264.
CCTV is still using MPEG-2 hence the higher bit-rate.
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nhk hd at intelsat8 166degree east, using mpeg4 system, as them do, they will use the original source to public, as the quality just 720p, u will see some area will black colour, if full hd they will full screen, if 1280*1080, some area also black, cctv1 hd also do like that, but using mpeg2 system, depand on the video source.

not like astro convert the 720p to 1080i to increase the resolution even source not full hd,
astro current use 9 transporter to transmit the channel, all using 30000Kbit/s, so if the hd using 8000kbit/s to video, some for audio i think 150kbit/s,
so total will use 8150*5=40750, and total astro bandwidth just 9*30000=270000kbit/s reduce 40750 =229250kbits/s for all total other channel

17 radio or more, each not sure how many bit, i will check soon, and balance for the tv, so i think the tv r share 220000kbit/s
each video will get 220000/130 around 1500-2000kbit/s,
just similar video cd quality whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

i will check the stream data soon

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Astro hasn't migrated to DVB-S2 yet. It's still transmitting from Measat 3 using DVB. That's probably why it's constraining bandwidth. Once they've migrated fully, bandwidth can be increased.


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oops, right...almost forgot the hd channels were mixed in the same transponders as sd... but i beg to differ with the bandwidth thing, if no one complains im very sure they will maintain it for the time being and slowly decrease the bitrate as more channels are added in...just like what happened to those sd channels. lets just enjoy the good quality while it lasts... cool.gif
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i suggest to better understand the compression, try to convert an hd video to both h.264 and mpeg4 with the same bitrate and see the difference...
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hi,sorry guys wanna ask something,i found out when i using 576p and 720p picture more clear compare to 1080 when watching sd channel,(using 40inc lcd fullhd)just my eyes or its true?u all people realy advance than astro customer service.s1 n s2 i really dono wat is it.cannot follow. rclxub.gif
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Astro CS person dont do their homework just like we all did. They just know about basic thing other than answer the phone.
Maybe u can ask astro technical person directly instead of CS person.
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Installer will come in about 1 hour time to install B.yond for me.

Too much debate on whether the RM20 is worth it, but I think it's up to the individual to judge. Of course I would love to see more channels coming in this year, without extra charges smile.gif

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Astro CS person dont do their homework just like we all did. They just know about basic thing other than answer the phone.
Maybe u can ask astro technical person directly instead of CS person.
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Astro Technical people should give a proper explanation [At least] to all subscribers, esp. on technical matters, mode of transmission, type of format etc. And please be more specific and details. we're not 60's, we're in IT area.
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oops, right...almost forgot the hd channels were mixed in the same transponders as sd...  but i beg to differ with the bandwidth thing, if no one complains im very sure they will maintain it for the time being and slowly decrease the bitrate as more channels are added in...just like what happened to those sd channels. lets just enjoy the good quality while it lasts... cool.gif
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Hopefully when we all start paying they should give us optimum bandwidth for HD channel. Right now because they dont charge anything so it still acceptable.

Good quality 720p HD takes at least 10-12Mbps with MPEG-4, and I think 15Mbps is a more reasonable minimum even 28Mbps isn't enough to eliminate all artifacts (based on D-Theater tape bitrates and quality). At 8Mbps, it becomes noticably lower quality.

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The astro installer just installed byond this morning, I've just came home and my sister said everything was fine, until I went and take a look at the "brand" new dish on the roof, and to my surprise the dish looks like the old dish, going to have someone take a look at the back to confirm whether it's the 60 cm or 65cm dish.
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"Anyway, if you look at the sticker at the back of the dish, there will be a description on that says "Astro outdoor unit 65", which should mean that this is a 65cm dish versus 60cm old dish diameter."

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Hi,

Just got mine 2 days ago and found out that my 2.5years old Plasma 42" DVI-HDMI convertor no work sad.gif I am now on component video until I upgrade to a Full HD LCD or Plasma. Oh well even on component the quality is much better. Think I will wait a while for some good deal to come alone since there is only 5 channel now. Maybe world cup is a good time to upgrade to a 50 inch LCD.

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Is dolby digital working on the digital output.

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bro.. that is the coaxial satelite cable.. i also got a big rim.. confusing here by putting 1 rim of coaxial cable.. haha
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Same with me. I already call CS twice but got same result. Ur location?
BTW I at damansara damai PJ.
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nhk hd at intelsat8 166degree east, using mpeg4 system, as them do, they will use the original source to public, as the quality just 720p, u will see some area will black colour, if full hd they will full screen, if 1280*1080, some area also black, cctv1 hd also do like that, but using mpeg2 system, depand on the video source.

not like astro convert the 720p to 1080i to increase the resolution even source not full hd,
First off, I'm not affiliated with Astro or its subsidiaries or anything relating to their B.yond business. I do believe that you can complain about B.yond but you have to be fair about it.

So are you seriously comparing Astro to NHK? NHK is the father of HDTV and have developed it over 20 years. NHK is developing Ultra HD right now. Do you want to compare B.yond against that as well?

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astro current use 9 transporter to transmit the channel, all using 30000Kbit/s, so if the hd using 8000kbit/s to video, some for audio i think 150kbit/s,
so total will use 8150*5=40750, and total astro bandwidth just 9*30000=270000kbit/s reduce 40750 =229250kbits/s for all total other channel
Your math is off. You cannot lump HD, SD and radio channels onto the total amount of bandwidth 9 transponders have. That's because each transponder has a bandwidth limit.

10982 Vertical signal on Measat has HBO HD and NGC HD, with 10 SD channels. So if like you say, HD video is 8 Mbps, then the two HD channels + Dolby Digital 5.1 are 8348kbps x 2= 16696kbps. That leaves 13304kbps for the rest of the 10 channels for audio and video. The other transponders have between 10-13 channels, most of which are SD.

The good thing about DVB is that it employs multiplexing prior to uplink, which provides bit allocation to the channels that need it most. This smart variable encoding ensures that a decent video quality can be achieved. Can Astro reduces the number of channels per transponder to ensure a higher quality? Sure but I'm not privy to their business plan. 10-13 channels per transponder is what they are going for at the moment.

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17 radio or more, each not sure how many bit, i will check soon, and balance for the tv, so i think the tv r share 220000kbit/s
each video will get 220000/130 around 1500-2000kbit/s,
just similar video cd quality whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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The bit rate only tells you the numbers but not about video codec. MPEG-1 is the VCD codec. It's not efficient at all nor is it variable. MPEG-2 is the one currently employed by Astro's SD channels as well as on DVD. It's a variable bit-rate codec which means it can go higher or lower.

In the above example, 13304kbps means that on average 1.3Mbps will go to each of the 10 channels on that transponder. But don't forget that not all channels will need 1.3Mbps at any given moment. Some need a higher rate for 2-3 seconds and some lower. That's where the multiplexer on the ground will determine which channel will get what bitrate at which time to maximize video quality.

With H.264 at 13304kbps for 10 SD channels, the video quality will certainly increase.

Can Astro ease up on the channel loading per transponder? Sure. But how will that affect their business plan? Will that require higher subscription fees?

QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 3 2010, 11:13 AM)
i suggest to better understand the compression, try to convert an hd video to both h.264 and mpeg4 with the same bitrate and see the difference...
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MPEG-4 is H.264.

Added on January 3, 2010, 1:52 pm
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Good quality 720p HD takes at least 10-12Mbps with MPEG-4, and I think 15Mbps is a more reasonable minimum even 28Mbps isn't enough to eliminate all artifacts (based on D-Theater tape bitrates and quality). At 8Mbps, it becomes noticably lower quality.
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Actually, if you look at BD, the bitrates there for 1080p can drop to below 8 Mbps while still maintaining high quality; this is done using both H.264 and VC-1 codecs. But for "normal" scenes, 12-15 Mbps at 1080p is a better option.

You must remember that D-Theater used MPEG-2. At 28Mbps on H.264, it's very high quality.

QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 3 2010, 12:46 PM)
Just got mine 2 days ago and found out that my 2.5years old Plasma 42" DVI-HDMI convertor no work
Check if your HDTV is HDCP compliant. If it's not, that will explain why your DVI-HDMI converter doesn't work.

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Hi,

Just got mine 2 days ago and found out that my 2.5years old Plasma 42" DVI-HDMI convertor no work sad.gif I am now on component video until I upgrade to a Full HD LCD or Plasma. Oh well even on component the quality is much better. Think I will wait a while for some good deal to come alone since there is only 5 channel now. Maybe world cup is a good time to upgrade to a 50 inch LCD.
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Are u old plasma is HD ready?

From what I know, HD ready TV should meet this minimum requirement:
1- A native resolution of at least 720 lines in widescreen format
2- The ability to accept HD input in YPbPr and via DVI or HDMI
2- It must accept 720p50, 720p60, 1080i25 and 1080i30 input signals
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Astro decoder only output p50 i believe.. My brother TV from us cannot display anything either through hdmi or component. His TV only support p60..
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From what I know, HD ready TV should meet this minimum requirement:
1- A native resolution of at least 720 lines in widescreen format
2- The ability to accept HD input in YPbPr and via DVI or HDMI
True.

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Not necessarily true. See below.

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4- The DVI or HDMI input supports HDCP content protection
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HDCP is quite new, ratified by the FCC in 2004 and by the EU in 2005. HD broadcast and HDTVs have been around much longer than HDCP. So his TV may not have HDCP.

QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 3 2010, 02:24 PM)
Astro decoder only output p50 i believe.. My brother TV from us cannot display anything either through hdmi or component. His TV only support p60..
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This is another possible explanation. Many US HDTVs are i30/60 or p24 only so i25/50 sources gets a blank signal. However most HD projectors use all of the HD standards.


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post Jan 3 2010, 04:00 PM

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just got my installation today after 1 week application

my question is:
for all HD channel, they dont have subtitle for them?
i got HBO,NGEO and HIST

in normal channel, have malay subtitle
but when turn HD channel, dont have subtitle

other ppl also like this?
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yess... hd channel doesnt have any subtitle..
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QUOTE(crossmaniac @ Jan 3 2010, 04:03 PM)
yess... hd channel doesnt have any subtitle..
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that not good for me....
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If my TV is a CRT and want to change to astro b.yond, would the signal be better than previous decoder? I mean i might to wait on better price on LCD tv...
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signal is good for me...
old decoder got 78 from 100
new decoder 222 from 255

after put signal amp
i got full signal 255
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@azlanxp what signal amp?

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Probably this...

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i bought from astro installer 6 month ago...
that thing will boost your astro signal
for normal decoder (old decoder) boost up to 12...from 78==>90
beyond decoder from 222 ==> 255
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ah, ok thanks.

my signal is ok for now.

If any Astro staff is lurking on here, please send me a PM I need to speak to someone about a special case.


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Probably this...

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yes that thing will boost your signal
can watch even in hujan lebat
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installer just went back.. i'm on Byond... hehe..

registered on Sunday last week. T&C on Tuesday. Got msg from Astro on Thursday. Installer came on sunday...

btw, i just subscribed to Astro 2 weeks ago.. immediately subscribe for byond once they installed the normal DMT...

Location: Ampang.
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how come DiscoveryHD is not on the services list?
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how come DiscoveryHD is not on the services list?
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they not offer yet
only national geo & history in learning package
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My friend just got his B.yond just now about 12PM. He also got the old 60CM dish. The installer said now all came old white dish. Lucky for the very first batch B.yond owner.
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Where to get those signal amp if not from Astro installer?
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My friend just got his B.yond just now about 12PM. He also got the old 60CM dish. The installer said now all came old white dish. Lucky for the very first batch B.yond owner.
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mine came with the slightly darker grey one...just installed today
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yes that thing will boost your signal
can watch even in hujan lebat
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this thing really help if rain? if yes then is a nice thing to invest..
how much btw?
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Finally I figure how to use the Fav button. You have to press + or - on the channel selector then you will see a yellow info box comes out. Then press fav to surf only set channels. But it's kind of stupid as you need to be quick as once the yellow box goes off you can't use the fav button anymore. Stupid!
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QUOTE(azlanxp @ Jan 3 2010, 04:13 PM)
signal is good for me...
old decoder got 78 from 100
new decoder 222 from 255

after put signal amp
i got full signal 255
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Is the picture quality 'really' better with this stuff?
Sometimes there wont be much different :220 or 250. Placebo effect? blink.gif
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Can I put a splitter at the wall panel so that I can connect two decoder (i.e. one new & one old)? very leceh when want to switch between new & old smart card lah !

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this thing really help if rain? if yes then is a nice thing to invest..
how much btw?
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Price around RM100.
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Finally I figure how to use the Fav button. You have to press + or - on the channel selector then you will see a yellow info box comes out. Then press fav to surf only set channels. But it's kind of stupid as you need to be quick as once the yellow box goes off you can't use the fav button anymore. Stupid!
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well I apply online, still havent yet got a call. might call astro tmrrw. any suggestion?
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well I apply online, still havent yet got a call. might call astro tmrrw. any suggestion?
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I wait more than 2 days before CS call me back.
Call CS: 16 Dec
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Until now just waiting for installer call.

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2 weeks oredi and still waiting
i got 2 decoder but 1 account (just swap smart card)
just wondering can the new smart card be used in the old decoder?
otherwise one of the decoder cannot be used doh.gif

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I don't really know whos fault is this,but the Astro installer came to my house just bringing thedecoder set only,no satellite dish.When I ask him why didn't he bring the dish,he said the order only tell to come and install the decoder only,no dish.Is this Astros fault or the installer's fault?

For those that upgrade 2 decoders simultaneously,did the installer came with both decoder set and separate order forms or only 1 order forms?Cause i'm upgrading 2 decoders to B.yond.Help guys?
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2 weeks oredi and still waiting
i got 2 decoder but 1 account (just swap smart card)
just wondering can the new smart card be used in the old decoder?
otherwise one of the decoder cannot be used doh.gif
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I dont think u can swap the card to any decoder anymore... u need to bring ur decoder together... hehe

QUOTE(syafri88 @ Jan 3 2010, 08:38 PM)
I don't really know whos fault is this,but the Astro installer came to my house just bringing thedecoder set only,no satellite dish.When I ask him why didn't he bring the dish,he said the order only tell to come and install the decoder only,no dish.Is this Astros fault or the installer's fault?

For those that upgrade 2 decoders simultaneously,did the installer came with both decoder set and separate order forms or only 1 order forms?Cause i'm upgrading 2 decoders to B.yond.Help guys?
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my installer just came this afternoon n he swapped for a new dish..

my installer also gave me the T&C copy which stated in the Terms:
2. Under the campaign, Astro sahll provide you one (1) unit of Astro B.yond Box and its accessories which includes the Out-Door unit (ODU) (if applicable subject to items 7 below), smartcard, remote control unit and HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) cable ( Accessories) subject to.............

7.The ODU may be provided to you (if necessary) in order for you to receive Astro Service. In the event Astro installs a new ODU, your existing ODU will be collected by the Authorized Astro Installer....

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With H.264 at 13304kbps for 10 SD channels, the video quality will certainly increase.

MPEG-4 is H.264.

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but i think astro still running all other using mpeg2 not mpeg4 right? do astro upgrade all channel to mpeg4? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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Astro is still running MPEG2 for their SD channels.
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yes that thing will boost your signal
can watch even in hujan lebat
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Interesting. Where to buy? Pasar road?
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i dont know where to buy in market because i bought with astro installer when he come to my house repair my satellite dish before
i bought RM60-RM70...forgot fix price
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 3 2010, 02:24 PM)

Astro decoder only output p50 i believe.. My brother TV from us cannot display anything either through hdmi or component. His TV only support p60..
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This is another possible explanation. Many US HDTVs are i30/60 or p24 only so i25/50 sources gets a blank signal.
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Above can use as real-world case for the reason to include 1080i60 pull-up option on decoder. Not only US HDTVs. Many first-gen HDTVs (i.e. early 720p only plasmas and CRT) cannot handle 50Hz input. Cheaper DVI-enabled LCD monitors cannot handle that input as well even if it can handle HDCP.

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if they are to implement Subs, dont make it hardcoded. Make it optional.
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Yah, agreed. Hardwired sub aka Open Captioning is irritating. I personally don't like it, especially when it's chock full of errors i.e. RTM's. Apparently either some of their translator people cannot speak English or cannot speak Malay. I noticed a lot of English shows have laughably mistranslated Malay subtitles.

QUOTE(azlanxp @ Jan 3 2010, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Jan 3 2010, 05:02 PM)

how come DiscoveryHD is not on the services list?
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they not offer yet
only national geo & history in learning package
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Hope they bring in Discovery HD soon. I also want it.

QUOTE(azlanxp @ Jan 3 2010, 10:04 PM)
i dont know where to buy in market because i bought with astro installer when he come to my house repair my satellite dish before
i bought RM60-RM70...forgot fix price
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Ok.

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Imagine hard-subbing a HD programme...
Sure takes longer.
Except they have subtitle file for each programme.

Compare this...

History, Ci and Bio Asia is join venture between astro aan and a&e...

So, soft-subs is available to these 3 channels and no 2-5 minutes of delay not like other international channels like HBO, Discovery etc....
Juz like any other astro channels...

So we can hope for history HD to have subtitle... Others? Don't know yet...

Zee TV's subtitle is the worst in Astro... Malay subtitle wrong grammar all round... and the font is making my eyes sore...

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If my TV is a CRT and want to change to astro b.yond, would the signal be better than previous decoder? I mean i might to wait on better price on LCD tv...
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Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component. SD channel more vivid and sharper on component. It does make a difference. rclxms.gif
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just a simple question, is the picture quality will improve if we use another hdmi cable like monster brand, any have tried...need riview here,,
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just saw my house have astro beyond decoder liao, dam syiok watch National Geographic History in HD hehe
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Is anyone using #18 MEASAT 3A(VH) satelite signal instead of the original option #1 MEASAT 3(VL)?
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Is anyone using  #18 MEASAT 3A(VH) satelite signal instead of the original option #1 MEASAT 3(VL)?
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im using that...my installer set that for me
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Is anyone using  #18 MEASAT 3A(VH) satelite signal instead of the original option #1 MEASAT 3(VL)?
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just curious...how to select this #18...have open but cannot select...
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Is anyone using  #18 MEASAT 3A(VH) satelite signal instead of the original option #1 MEASAT 3(VL)?
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You will lose EPG. I think we are supposed to stick to #1. The signal doesn't matter as long as the quality is 100 (0 BER).

I tried each and every one of the transponders as entry point, #2 and #5 (both Measat 3) won't allow me (signal became unlocked), and #13-17 (Measat 3A) won't allow me either.

The rest allowed me to, #1 (default) and #3 gave me the lowest signal (198-209 depending on whether night or day), the rest gave me higher, from 214 till 244, varies for each entry point. #18 gave me 225-228.

Anyway, I think it doesn't matter so long as you can watch all the channels you subscribe to without any problems, the channels are all split over the many transponders.
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QUOTE(LCP @ Jan 3 2010, 11:57 PM)
You will lose EPG. I think we are supposed to stick to #1. The signal doesn't matter as long as the quality is 100 (0 BER).

I tried each and every one of the transponders as entry point, #2 and #5 (both Measat 3) won't allow me (signal became unlocked), and #13-17 (Measat 3A) won't allow me either.

The rest allowed me to, #1 (default) and #3 gave me the lowest signal (198-209 depending on whether night or day), the rest gave me higher, from 214 till 244, varies for each entry point. #18 gave me 225-228.

Anyway, I think it doesn't matter so long as you can watch all the channels you subscribe to without any problems, the channels are all split over the many transponders.
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hrm...never experience that.... still got epg using no 18
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what is EPG?

my installer set #18 to me

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i have no problem with EPG with set to #18
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How to check which satellite am i lock to? #1,#2,#3 or so on.
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go to installation setting at home menu then put 0000 as default pin then click next
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just a simple question, is the picture quality will improve if we use another hdmi cable like monster brand, any have tried...need riview here,,

Don't bother with monster cable. It's all digital, so either signal make it (clear picture), or signal don't at all. A possible third scenario is the signal only intermittently making it (theoretically, would be like picture resembling Astro during hujan lebat PLUS intermittent HDCP errors). The third scenario is unlikely to occur because HDMI mandates that the power strength sent by a HDMI device must be powerful enough to get through a 15 meter wire without loss at all. If got loss then either cable is faulty, cable does not meet spec (longer than 15m or poor quality due to high resistance) or Astro decoder/TV is faulty. No such thing as picture getting sharper with better cable.

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i have no problem with EPG with set to #18
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Did more testing. Apparently the EPG loss is temporary. All I needed to do was to just cycle through all the channels I subscribed to and press OK twice to make the EPG come back. I'm currently still using #18.

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QUOTE(snake1x @ Jan 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component.  SD channel more vivid and sharper on  component. It does make a difference.  rclxms.gif
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i really wanted to follow ure tip...but then when i do so...i found out that the component output was distorted...half of the video can see obvious interlaced field while the other half dont... i'm going to call the installer and see what they could do... probably need to change to new decoder doh.gif got a defected decoder pulak :|
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i'm really considering subscribing to B.yond. I have some issues though.. hmm.gif

1. Is it worth changing my comfortable viewing of SD programmes right now now to HD? I know it's 5 HD channels of which I can get 4 of them except HBO. I heard there are problems with the sound between SD and HD. Is this a big problem? And is SD channels on B.Yond better or worse compared to the old decoder?

2. Is it very complicated to watch HD? Im just a normal guy who just wants to watch his ASTRO without too many things to set up. If I do get B.Yond, is there any urgent and necessary things I have to set up on my own after the installer do the necessary stuff? If so, anyone care to tell me, what I should do to get the best possible viewing of HD?

3. Anyone knows how long it takes to get B.Yond installed in JB?

Thanks. By the way. If you EPL fans out there remember, ASTRO announced back in October that they have secured the rights to all 380 matches of EPL starting next season. I wrote to one of the newspapers suggesting Astro to show simultaneous matches via the Red button on the remote instead of setting up specific channels for clubs like Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool,o etc.

Do you think Astro now has the capabilities to show all 380 matches LIVE with B.Yond? Imagine 380 EPL matches in HD!!! drool.gif

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2. there was nothing to set up. After the installer hooked up everything and left I waited about 20 minutes for the card activation and voila! that's it.

You only need to set up a bit if you have a surround system and want digital audio thru the receiver - whether your receiver has HDMI or only coax, etc etc.

3. setting up specific channels is not Astro's job - they only buy those channels from the clubs themselves (i.e LFC TV, Barca TV, Arsenal TV, Chelsea TV and Manutd TV)

4. I think the red button for match selection was already available on SKY even without HD, so it's got nothing to do with ESPN HD or Astro Byond. Perhaps if Astro decided to they can introduce the same interactive platform...

now 1. if you are excited about EPL in HD, how can you think it's not worth it?
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go to installation setting at home menu then put 0000 as default pin then click next
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Pls can you tell how to lock it. After choosing #18 3a(VH), it goes back to #1, someone mentioned about 'edit' button.
How does it work? blink.gif
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58 oledi...erm, wuts ur fav channel, for me, its history channel....picture quality always satisfied me..
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yday my decoder hanged.......i think coz i changed it to standby (with time showing) but then the decoder changed it back to channel 812.......then i off the main switch ....when i on it back the decoder stuck on channel 812 but no pic come out....so HANGED..had to remove power source to get it working again......

basically the prob is when i try to switch it to standby the decoder goes to standby but within 1 or 2 sec changes back to ON mode....not sure wat causes this...maybe the remote??????
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just a simple question, is the picture quality will improve if we use another hdmi cable like monster brand, any have tried...need riview here,,
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No. Monster brand won't make any difference from any other HDMI cable with Astro Byond.
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No. Monster brand won't make any difference from any other HDMI cable with Astro Byond.
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so clear and strong la ur answer..sure ar?but...y they keep selling this item?i think somebody should try and give review here rite... flex.gif
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so clear and strong la ur answer..sure ar?but...y they keep selling this item?i think somebody should try and give review here rite... flex.gif
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QUOTE(snake1x @ Jan 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component.  SD channel more vivid and sharper on  component. It does make a difference.  rclxms.gif
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so is confirmed and tested that byond will output signals out from hdmi, component, and composite simultaneously?
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then, there is the chances to split up to 3 output in the same time la...erm,curious...
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so is confirmed and tested that byond will output signals out from hdmi, component, and composite simultaneously?
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Really? I though Byond only output signal to either one even if all three are connected. blink.gif
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hello biggrin.gif ... wanted to pay my astro bill through phone on 31.12.2009 morning... then they ask whether i want to upgrade to astro Byond.. i said ok... the same evening Astro called me to get some details... and on 2.1.2010 they came and installed Astro Byond in my house...
super fast respond and service thumbup.gif ... now in enjoyed the HD experience in my house.. hahaha... the picture is remarkable.. esp when watching football on Supersport HD..
Add me into your list bro...
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so is confirmed and tested that byond will output signals out from hdmi, component, and composite simultaneously?
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yup...it works... and if u watch SD channels using component, it is much sharper....the scaling chip from my panny is much better than the decoder's ....what a shame
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Is it true that the cable from the dish to the decoder must be HDMI ? I thought only from decoder to TV only..
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so clear and strong la ur answer..sure ar?but...y they keep selling this item?i think somebody should try and give review here rite... flex.gif
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because you are dealing with digital signal...

digital signals are either 0 or 1 [no or yes]

can you see the picture? [no or yes] .... no such thing as yea but a bit snowy, yea but a bit fuzzy etc

its either u see the video or its blank screen... no matter how good the cable is...if the cable cannot show any picture then thats bad...if the cable can show any video then its working...thats it... no such thing as using a rm200 hdmi cable will make ure picture sharper, more vibrant colours, less snow etc etc because the quality is already fixed by astro themselves... u get what they broadcast.

Only component and composite output might matter because its analog...but even then for me i can't see much diff with monster cables. Just get some midrange cables will do...no need to spend hundreds in such cables....(if headphone earphones then you should, depending on how u like the sound tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 4 2010, 09:10 AM)
so clear and strong la ur answer..sure ar?but...y they keep selling this item?i think somebody should try and give review here rite... flex.gif
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Please use google to look for your answer. I will help you a bit:

http://reviews.cnet.com/hdmi-cable/

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/field-notes/the...able-266616.php
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any1 here has successfully changed entry point in satellite settings ? already tried but can't save the new settings, always revert to my original settings.

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 4 2010, 09:49 AM)
yup...it works... and if u watch SD channels using component, it is much sharper....the scaling chip from my panny is much better than the decoder's ....what a shame
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You mean to say upscaling through component only, not through HDMI? I'm bit naive lah doh.gif

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QUOTE(tHeRiDdLeR @ Jan 4 2010, 10:02 AM)
any1 here has successfully changed entry point in satellite settings ? already tried but can't save the new settings, always revert to my original settings.
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Same here. Anyone can help? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 4 2010, 10:00 AM)
because you are dealing with digital signal...

digital signals are either 0 or 1 [no or yes]

can you see the picture? [no or yes]  .... no such thing as yea but a bit snowy, yea but a bit fuzzy etc

its either u see the video or its blank screen...
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Like I said earlier, there's a possibility of intermittent HDCP errors and/or picture/sound garbling, but that indicates a problem with the cable itself, or problem with decoder or TV. Point is, a working RM20 cable is no different from a working "Monster" cable when it comes to PQ/SQ in digital.

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any1 here has successfully changed entry point in satellite settings ? already tried but can't save the new settings, always revert to my original settings.
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Last time I change mine, it stuck. But my decoder has different problem: it keeps resetting channel to Australia Network and volume to 50% when I switch it off. You did answer "Yes" when asked to confirm, right?

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QUOTE(dsubra @ Jan 4 2010, 10:45 AM)
You mean to say upscaling through component only, not through HDMI? I'm bit naive lah doh.gif

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Same here. Anyone can help? sweat.gif
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No no.... the component output is SD, 576i....only 576i.... so when u feed this signal to ure tv, ure tv will know automatically what to do, which is resize it for u.... i feel that resizing done through tv looks sharper...
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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 4 2010, 10:49 AM)
Last time I change mine, it stuck. But my decoder has different problem: it keeps resetting channel to Australia Network and volume to 50% when I switch it off. You did answer "Yes" when asked to confirm, right?
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There is no "YES" or "OK" to confirm/save my new setting.

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No no.... the component output is SD, 576i....only 576i.... so when  u feed this signal to ure tv, ure tv will know automatically what to do, which is resize it for u.... i feel that resizing done through tv looks sharper...
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so clear and strong la ur answer..sure ar?but...y they keep selling this item?i think somebody should try and give review here rite... flex.gif
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Alright, I'll bite. YOU go spend RM300 (or what ever the price is) on a Monster HDMI cable and then compare it to the free HDMI cable Astro gives with B.yond.

As to why do they keep selling them? Fools rush in.


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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 4 2010, 09:49 AM)
yup...it works... and if u watch SD channels using component, it is much sharper....the scaling chip from my panny is much better than the decoder's ....what a shame
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QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 4 2010, 11:19 AM)
The compenent out signal distorted
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Do you remember to reset the resolution to 576 when you're watching via component?


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where the heck my ESPN HD??? Im sick of watching Ice Hockey and NFL tongue.gif
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Do you remember to reset the resolution to 576 when you're watching via component?
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component and composite resolution is always fixed to 576i... the changing resolution thing only applies to hdmi
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where the heck my ESPN HD??? Im sick of watching Ice Hockey and NFL tongue.gif
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There is no "YES" or "OK" to confirm/save my new setting.
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I have a viewsonic 24" full hd lcd monitor(with hdmi port),
so can i use it to watch astro hd?
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jan 4 2010, 11:27 AM)
bro...just wait la...im also tired watching the ice hockey..haha....i think astro are working with the espn hd i think la...last nite got live football match wut if not mistaken but its surely not epl..
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I have a viewsonic 24" full hd lcd monitor(with hdmi port),
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If your monitor support High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) then should not be a problem. BTW, is your monitor have speaker ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidt...tent_Protection
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La Liga is live on Supersports HD smile.gif but it was better watching Leeds beat Man U at OT  rclxms.gif
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Leeds knocks out MU from FA Cup, wins for Arsenal and Chelsea
LONDON: Manchester United suffered their most embarrassing FA Cup defeat for 26 years when Leeds United pulled off a stunning 1-0 third-round victory at Old Trafford yesterday.

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La Liga is live on Supersports HD smile.gif but it was better watching Leeds beat Man U at OT  rclxms.gif
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If your monitor support High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) then should not be a problem. BTW, is your monitor have speaker ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidt...tent_Protection
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component and composite resolution is always fixed to 576i... the changing resolution thing only applies to hdmi
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Sorry a bit naive in this area. If I connect both hdmi and component to my tv(toshiba lcd) do i hv to set it on the tv/decoder or it will auto adjust accord. to the correct resolution.
Thanks.
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I agree! Hee....hee rclxms.gif
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If your monitor support High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) then should not be a problem. BTW, is your monitor have speaker ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidt...tent_Protection
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if not support, then there is no picture appear rite?
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 4 2010, 11:26 AM)
component and composite resolution is always fixed to 576i... the changing resolution thing only applies to hdmi
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wah.. this will be not convenient rite, do the decoder HD setting to 576i for SD channel and then set 1080i/720p when watching HD channels. each HD setting, password entry is needed and at least 9 buttons (4 for password + 1 for ok/confirm) pressing involved to for making seeting changes.
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if not support, then there is no picture appear rite?
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Depend on monitor. Most should show something like "Resolution not supported" if no support.

QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 4 2010, 12:39 PM)
wah.. this will be not convenient rite, do the decoder HD setting to 576i for SD channel and then set 1080i/720p when watching HD channels. each HD setting, password entry is needed and at least 9 buttons (4 for password + 1 for ok/confirm) pressing involved to for making seeting changes.
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Actually, I think the SD channel is perpetually downscaled to 576i regardless of HD setting. For HDMI signal, picture will automatically upscale to selected resolution dispite native image res. Will let you know for sure once I get my HTPC setup up and running.
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hahaha... i even prefer listening LEEDS beat MU in my uncle's old radio than watching LA LIGA in HD.. hahaha go LEEDS... but please give way to SPURS ok? hehehe
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QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 4 2010, 12:39 PM)
wah.. this will be not convenient rite, do the decoder HD setting to 576i for SD channel and then set 1080i/720p when watching HD channels. each HD setting, password entry is needed and at least 9 buttons (4 for password + 1 for ok/confirm) pressing involved to for making seeting changes.
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Just need to set once... Then plug component input and hdmi input to tv.... when watch SD, switch AV to component, when watch HD switch AV to HDMI.... 2 buttons overall, byond page up down and tv's av button lol
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it could be better if astro can replay the MU game in HD..hahaha
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 4 2010, 12:54 PM)
Just need to set once... Then plug component input and hdmi input to tv.... when watch SD, switch AV to component, when watch HD switch AV to HDMI.... 2 buttons overall, byond page up down and tv's av button lol
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yes, This is what i did. Component out signal is distorted at top half screen and composite picture shaking. but HDMI is very good. I used the pana plasma pv80h model (HD ready)
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QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 4 2010, 01:34 PM)
yes, This is what i did.  Component out signal is distorted at top half screen and composite picture shaking. but HDMI is very good. I used the pana plasma pv80h model (HD ready)
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Holy shit...u got the same problem as mine.... top half screen of component got those distorted lines and composite shaking... i thought it was my cable prob....now since you have received the same problem as mine....i can conclude is that lemon decoder... anyway ive called astro...they are assigning a technician for me...
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Holy shit...u got the same problem as mine.... top half screen of component got those distorted lines and composite shaking... i thought it was my cable prob....now  since you have received the same problem as mine....i can conclude is that lemon decoder... anyway ive called astro...they are assigning a technician for me...
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could this due to simultaneous output effect?
can try just component only (and set 576i if necessary) to see any distortion?
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then, somebody should try this and make review here...full report..hahah
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QUOTE(aerobowl @ Jan 4 2010, 02:08 PM)
could this due to simultaneous output effect?
can try just component only (and set 576i if necessary) to see any distortion?
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nope tested it already.. time to wrap up this lemon decoder
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imagine if this is common faulty for all byond component output then astro may face big issue as having a problematic decorder
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Holy shit...u got the same problem as mine.... top half screen of component got those distorted lines and composite shaking... i thought it was my cable prob....now  since you have received the same problem as mine....i can conclude is that lemon decoder... anyway ive called astro...they are assigning a technician for me...
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I've have made report on thursday and the technician came to house on saturday with another new byond decoder, he can't solve that problem after swapping the decoder and cable, initially he claimed my component cable or TV input faulty, but after I shown him the DVD-Plasma connection via component cable and finally he admitted it's byond decoder problem. he called his manager so that his manager can give me a good explaination, well this rosak manager said the byond was design to make for HDMI work only and they have not tested the component out and he will report this to astro technical department. biggrin.gif
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i just went to CS and signed the beyond! The advisor told me i can keep my old decoder for RM80, should i keep it and pay RM80 or just ask him to take back?
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QUOTE(utellme @ Jan 4 2010, 03:47 PM)
I've have made report on thursday and the technician came to house on saturday with another new byond decoder, he can't solve that problem after swapping the decoder and cable, initially he claimed my component cable or TV input faulty, but after I shown him the DVD-Plasma connection via component cable and finally he admitted it's byond decoder problem.  he called his manager so that his manager can give me a good explaination, well this rosak manager said the byond was design to make for HDMI work only and they have not tested the component out and he will report this to astro technical department.    biggrin.gif
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lol IF every byond decorder is having same problem and every byond user is complained to astro then will be very fun

MASS RECALL weeeeeeeee but this probably wont happen in BOLEH land i guess..
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just give them la...no use la to keep n pay rm80
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QUOTE(aerobowl @ Jan 4 2010, 03:24 PM)
imagine if this is common faulty for all byond component output then astro may face big issue as having a problematic decorder
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well this decoder has already some bugs discovered and warned by our fellow byond users (i just used for a day and i've already stumbled upon most problem mentioned... =__=), among those i've came across :

1. when switching channels, suddenly would land on no pic but got sound prob..... but could be solved by switching to other channels and switch back to the desired channel.
2. when switching on decoder, have to press the on button quickly, not slowly... or else the decoder would turn off and on quickly and results in no picture/sound on every channel... the remote is too sensitive i would say
3. when u switch to any channel, and then press the subtitle/language button and press ok, the volume suddenly increases and becomes louder lol.
4. volume on astro remote only works when used in analog output.. else u would need to sync with the tv to adjust tv's volume from astro's remote if ure using hdmi
5. if u usually switch off the main power of the decoder(esp when ure going to bed at night), once turned on, need to wait quite a while before the decoder shows the time, then only can on

6. distorted component and composite output [this one really ticks me off]

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another problem is now i use b-yond box the astro on demand canot watch...stupid b-yond box..
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If that the case, is it posible DD5.1 problem is due to decoder, or broadcasting etc?
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QUOTE(kuekss @ Jan 4 2010, 03:59 PM)
another problem is now i use b-yond box the astro on demand canot watch...stupid b-yond box..
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call CS then ask them....then please update here what they talk about this...
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call cs dy..now waiting astro installer come...they say within 48 hour...
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QUOTE(kuekss @ Jan 4 2010, 03:59 PM)
another problem is now i use b-yond box the astro on demand canot watch...stupid b-yond box..
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why cannot watch? whats the error msg when u go to those AOD channels?
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Called CS on Sat. This morning Astro called for T&C, and promised installer will contact between 2-3 days. And Byond will be up and running within 10 days. Let's see if they can keep to their promise.....

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QUOTE(snake1x @ Jan 3 2010, 11:25 PM)
Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component.  SD channel more vivid and sharper on  component. It does make a difference.  rclxms.gif
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got mine done in 4 days,.. really puas hati lah... need to ask ... anyone know exactly when in january will we get espn hd?...

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jan 4 2010, 04:03 PM)
Called CS on Sat. This morning Astro called for T&C, and promised installer will contact between 2-3 days. And Byond will be up and running within 10 days. Let's see if they can keep to their promise.....
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Wah... They promised you only 2-3 days only... As for myself the promised within 10 days.... Now already passed my day number 5...
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mine already passed 7 days...still no call...wth
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just got mine installed. submit online form last thursday. just take 5 days, lucky me.

bandar baharu, kedah --- installer from b.mertajam.

they install a new dish but when i look closely it is the exact same dish model. i ask him and he say it is the same.
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got mine done in 4 days,.. really puas hati lah... need to ask ... anyone know exactly when in january will we get espn hd?...
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Hello there.

Astro Installer will install the beyond at my house 6.00pm today. Cant wait to go back home from the office at 5.30pm! I just want to ask that am i able to watch the HD channels as soon as the installation process complete? Or should i wait for 24 hours more before the service is available? Like 1st Astro installation last time. I hope i will be able to watch the HD channels as soon as tonite tho

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ok fixed it! thanks
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for my case, it took one hour...before that it keep saying smart card not activated yet.

the picture quality is superb but unfortunately i only have 2 hd channel - history and n.graphic.


QUOTE(shevagol @ Jan 4 2010, 04:57 PM)
Hello there.

Astro Installer will install the beyond at my house 6.00pm today. Cant wait to go back home from the office at 5.30pm! I just want to ask that am i able to watch the HD channels as soon as the installation process complete? Or should i wait for 24 hours more before the service is available? Like 1st Astro installation last time. I hope i will be able to watch the HD channels as soon as tonite tho
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for my case, it took one hour...before that it keep saying smart card not activated yet.

the picture quality is superb but unfortunately i only have 2 hd channel - history and n.graphic.
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Thank you for the info Wunan. Wah still have to wait meh? Hmm i hope the longest i have to wait os one hour tho. Really tak sabar dh!!

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QUOTE(shevagol @ Jan 4 2010, 04:57 PM)
Hello there.

Astro Installer will install the beyond at my house 6.00pm today. Cant wait to go back home from the office at 5.30pm! I just want to ask that am i able to watch the HD channels as soon as the installation process complete? Or should i wait for 24 hours more before the service is available? Like 1st Astro installation last time. I hope i will be able to watch the HD channels as soon as tonite tho
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my expirience...
change the parabola thing ... 30 minutes
decoder ... about 10 minutes
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Thank you for the info Wunan. Wah still have to wait meh? Hmm i hope the longest i have to wait os one hour tho. Really tak sabar dh!!

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Mine around 15 minutes.. The activation code is send through the satellite.. If no queue than it will be earlier.
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Just want to confirm... 10 days they promised included holiday and weekend or not. Forgot to ask them...
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was watching HBO HD & they were screening "Over the top" - some old movie starring Sylvester Stallone..can this one be regarded as HD movie..?
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just curios......the movie on hbo hd, do they have subtitle? english subtitle maybe???...
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just curios......the movie on hbo hd, do they have subtitle? english subtitle maybe???...
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no subtitle whatso ever atm..
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If like that my application was only 2 days (1 new year, 1 Saturday and Sunday).... Hope will get called from them within this week... So far haven't see any subscriber from Lukut/P. Dickson yet in this forum....
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Hi, to those who already have Beyond, does the decoder box have optical output or other options for audio besides the HDMI? Thx
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Can I put a splitter at the wall panel so that I can connect two decoder (i.e. one new & one old)? very leceh when want to switch between new & old smart card lah !
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Spent RM11 on this splitter but found that it doesn't work ! connected both old decoder > s.video > tv and new decoder > hdmi > tv, can watch all channel on byond but when switch to old decoder, it display "service currently not available", no satelite signal at all.
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Hi, to those who already have Beyond, does the decoder box have optical output or other options for audio besides the HDMI? Thx
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no optical output. only have coaxial
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no optical output (TOSLINK), just coaxial output (SPDIF)
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Hi, to those who already have Beyond, does the decoder box have optical output or other options for audio besides the HDMI? Thx
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The silly part is it comes with Coaxial output while every new home theater uses optical. Astro d was selfish all was done to protect its own interest. It never took into consideration the public interest, the sets we bought 5yrs which are HD ready but cannot be used bcos Astro was HDMI,Thats what Monopoly means !@ vmad.gif
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Question :

can new Byond HD decoder use with old dish and LNB?

reason.. my installer will come tomorrow.. and i instruct them to install at my new house which i will only be moving in another 2 weeks..

I'm not planning to give up my old decoder (so.. pay rm80)

so.., can just install the new dish at new house and bring back new decoder to connect to my old house and receive HD transmission?

I read in this thread some ppl didn't change the dish.. yet still can get HD transmission..

thanks..
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 4 2010, 05:39 PM)
The silly part is it comes with Coaxial output while  every new home theater uses optical. Astro d was selfish all was done to protect its own interest. It never took into consideration the public interest, the sets we bought 5yrs which are HD ready but cannot be used bcos Astro was HDMI,Thats what Monopoly means !@ vmad.gif
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That normal lah for big company like Astro... They always make thing that meet their need not use needs... Lucky for me both my LCD c/w 2 HDMI port and my AV receiver have one coxial input (dunno if it compatible or not). Look like my DVD player need to use back it optical cable just to meet Astro requirement.
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That's a little silly not to have optical option in my opinion doh.gif
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I guess there's 2 ways of looking at this...

1. We pay to be early adopters of technology

2. We pay to be guinea pigs of technology
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QUOTE(Fly1968 @ Jan 4 2010, 05:36 PM)
Spent RM11 on this splitter but found that it doesn't work ! connected both old decoder > s.video > tv and new decoder > hdmi > tv, can watch all channel on byond but when switch to old decoder, it display "service currently not available", no satelite signal at all.
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What splitter you mention ? can you post a photo ??
To share the dish with both new & old decoder, you need the LBN as what Azri posted in v1 thread. If you have 2 decoder in 1 account, Astro should give you this LNB.

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I guess there's 2 ways of looking at this...

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you mean if not either early adopters or guinea pigs, i.e. the slow adopter way, means we do not need to pay? hmm.gif
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you mean if not either early adopters or guinea pigs, i.e. the slow adopter way, means we do not need to pay?  hmm.gif
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not really.. early adopters/guinea pigs pay X amount for Y amount of channels and features while slow coaches/cheapskates pay X amount for Y+Z amount of channels and features. brows.gif

say, back to topic.. why no update on any new (if there's any) equipment (receiver or decoder) on 1st page?
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not really.. early adopters/guinea pigs pay X amount for Y amount of channels and features while slow coaches/cheapskates pay X amount for Y+Z amount of channels and features. brows.gif

say, back to topic.. why no update on any new (if there's any) equipment (receiver or decoder) on 1st page?
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so basically we still need to pay... biggrin.gif
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so basically we still need to pay...  biggrin.gif
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anyone can recommend where to get SPDIF to TOSLINK converter ar?
Haih, want to try out HD Channel DD5.1 effect
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That's a little silly not to have optical option in my opinion  doh.gif
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even astro Max had Optical ! mad.gif
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even astro Max had Optical ! mad.gif
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I think further they move a lot of thing they will leave behind (perhaps they think that what was not necessary anymore) ... I did saw some new branded DVD player now without optical out, only coxial out...
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redundant idea for astro max... all channel's audio is crappy heavily compressed mpeg layer 2 audio lol
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redundant idea for astro max... all channel's audio is crappy heavily compressed mpeg layer 2 audio lol
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One look at the Beyond Box itself raises a thousand questions and doubts, I think they deserve an award for this invention thay are so good in compression and self protection !!! rclxms.gif Look at the starhub box it looks majestic !

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After going through here,it seems that there is quite a number of people who have problem that is distorted video while using component or composite. I am also having this problem when I use composite to see SD channels. Any idea what is the problem?
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After going through here,it seems that there is quite a number of people who have problem that is distorted video while using component or composite. I am also having this problem when I use composite to see SD channels. Any idea what is the problem?
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Frankly speaking if u use LCD or HD, or HD ready TV pls use HDMI. The rest only for CRT if u use Component on a normal HD ready Tv its useless. THe picture is very bad, I had no choice then to take off my HD ready TV and put up an LCD , you get the best of HD only by using HDMI.SD still sucks no doubts thats the truth. vmad.gif Dont forget Astro;s advice in the FAQ , watch Astro from a distance not too close ! cos the truth may speak out !

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Guys, i just received their call. The subscription RM 20 is charge permanent but not 1 year, as long as u have HD channel (unless u cancel). vmad.gif vmad.gif
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Guys, i just received their call. The subscription RM 20 is charge permanent but not 1 year, as long as u have HD channel (unless u cancel).  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
Anyway, i still sign the new HD package  blush.gif

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aiyaaaaa ... i submitted my HD application online at their astro website since three weeks back ... not a call from them ...

sigh ...... wud i have expected a better service ??? the only high defination thingy that i am receiving currently from astro is their on-the-dot astro bill ... danggg
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jan 4 2010, 06:35 PM)
Frankly speaking if u use LCD or HD, or HD ready TV pls use HDMI. The rest only for CRT  if u use Component on a normal HD ready Tv its useless. THe picture is very bad, I had no choice then to take off my HD ready TV and put up  an LCD , you get the best of HD only by using HDMI.SD still sucks no doubts thats the truth. vmad.gif Dont forget Astro;s advice in the FAQ ,  watch  Astro from a distance not too close  ! cos the truth may speak out !
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Agree! doh.gif For now,i'm using a Panasonic 40" Plasma and i'm using HDMI to connect the Astro Byond to my TV. But it seems that, when i watch SD channels using HDMI,the PQ seems to be a bit lower compared to if i watch SD channels using composite. Can you explain why is that so? Or is it just me that feels the PQ is lower.
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Question :

can new Byond HD decoder use with old dish and LNB?

reason.. my installer will come tomorrow.. and i instruct them to install at my new house which i will only be moving in another 2 weeks..

I'm not planning to give up my old decoder (so.. pay rm80)

so.., can just install the new dish at new house and bring back new decoder to connect to my old house and receive HD transmission?

I read in this thread some ppl didn't change the dish.. yet still can get HD transmission..

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QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 4 2010, 06:55 PM)
What make u think it only for 1 year? of course la for as long as you subscribe for HD. The 1 year is a contract, meaning you need to subscribe at least for at least 1 year. If you terminate within 1 year need to pay for penalty.
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lol.. it's already V2 yet some ppl still don't get it right.. hmmm..
i'm still waiting for my byond. Registered online on 30/12 get TnC call on 31/12
till now.. still waiting for installer...
rite now using the composite for my astro coz there's no s-video for my sammy.
Hopefully by using the hdmi will be slighly better than composite for the non HD channel PQ...
thinking of component.. but need to rethink after read those feedback from forumers
regarding the byond box component/composite issue here... ... sad.gif

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QUOTE(morpheuzneo @ Jan 4 2010, 05:43 PM)
Question :

can new Byond HD decoder use with old dish and LNB?

reason.. my installer will come tomorrow.. and i instruct them to install at my new house which i will only be moving in another 2 weeks..

I'm not planning to give up my old decoder (so.. pay rm80)

so.., can just install the new dish at new house and bring back new decoder to connect to my old house and receive HD transmission?

I read in this thread some ppl didn't change the dish.. yet still can get HD transmission..

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Let me try to answer to your question.
1) You may request the installer to install the new decoder -B.yond, new ODU, +new remote control, + new smart card + HDMI cable at your new house.
2) You may pay RM 80 to retain your old decoder only. Not your old ODU. So in short you may not have any ODU at your old house to connect to B.Yond even you may bring it from your new house.
3) You may pay another RM 80 (charge to your bill later) for your old smart card if you do not return it to your installer (yet you can use it at any decoder as it will be deemed lost and it will be disabled by Astro after your activation of your new B.Yond smart card.

Hope the above helps.

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Agree!  doh.gif For now,i'm using a Panasonic 40" Plasma and i'm using HDMI to connect the Astro Byond to my TV. But it seems that, when i watch SD channels using HDMI,the PQ seems to be a bit lower compared to if i watch SD channels using composite. Can you explain why is that so? Or is it just me that feels the PQ is lower.
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it's already sucks enuf the astro PQ for SD channels using the composite for me now..
Now u telling that the PQ will a a bit lower compare to composite if using hdmi cable?? doh.gif
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it's already sucks enuf the astro PQ for SD channels using the composite for me now..
Now u telling that the PQ will a a bit lower compare to composite if using hdmi cable??  doh.gif
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lol.. it's already V2 yet some ppl still don't get it right.. hmmm..
i'm still waiting for my byond. Registered online on 30/12 get TnC call on 31/12
till now.. still waiting for installer...
rite now using the composite for my astro coz there's no s-video for my sammy.
Hopefully by using the hdmi will be slighly better than composite for the non HD channel PQ...
thinking of component.. but need to rethink after read those feedback from  forumers
regarding the byond box component/composite issue here... ... sad.gif
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Call again on 1/1/10.
Email then again on 3/1/10.
Till now, no one from astro call me. vmad.gif


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Agree!  doh.gif For now,i'm using a Panasonic 40" Plasma and i'm using HDMI to connect the Astro Byond to my TV. But it seems that, when i watch SD channels using HDMI,the PQ seems to be a bit lower compared to if i watch SD channels using composite. Can you explain why is that so? Or is it just me that feels the PQ is lower.
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The now I read this, I might reconsider the subscription. hmm.gif
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Did the installer check the old decoder is in working conditions before he take it from you guys? I have an older decoder but haven't been using for a long time.. Wanna keep the existing decoder for backup purpose.
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Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component.  SD channel more vivid and sharper on  component. It does make a difference.  rclxms.gif
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Did the installer check the old decoder is in working conditions before he take it from you guys?  I have an older decoder but haven't been using for a long time..  Wanna keep the existing decoder for backup purpose.
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Backup purpose? Once you have had BeYoung installed, no point keeping the old decoder.
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Did they check it before they take it from U?
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Yes, on the forms did state your old smartcard number as well as your old DMT number.
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another problem is now i use b-yond box the astro on demand canot watch...stupid b-yond box..
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Received sms from Astro notifying me the Astro Installer; and just received call from Astro Installer, they will come to fix tomorrow noon. I registered on 2nd January 2010, consider very lucky on their fast service.
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What splitter you mention ? can you post a photo ??
To share the dish with both new & old decoder, you need the LBN as what Azri posted in v1 thread. If you have 2 decoder in 1 account, Astro should give you this LNB.

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Photo attached is the splitter lah.

Yes, I do have LNB with two connector (which I insist on it by telling the installer that some lyn forumer had it installed), one to my existing concealed cable for downstair, one to my bed room.
But, my MIL need to watch her hua hee tai from her own smart card, hence, i'm having two decoder downstair to swap the connection, thought this splitter can save all the hassle, sigh......
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Received sms from Astro notifying me the Astro Installer; and just received call from Astro Installer, they will come to fix tomorrow noon.  I registered on 2nd January 2010, consider very lucky on their fast service.
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What package of astro you currently subscribe. I suspect they will based on the among to decide the installation.
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Well i juz called astro cs juz now..

this cs guy said that...

Q: I want to semak status of my application with acc number 08xxxxxx-x

A: Telemarketing call you at 28th Dec... So, you will get notifications about installer on the 10th day!! vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif 9th or 10th Jan... You have been enlisted in a WAITING LIST!!

Well, 10 days of waiting for installer actually, not within 10 days!! vmad.gif

Wonder y other ppl get their b.yond so fast not less than a week from register,,, rclxub.gif

In Astro B.yond, FIRST LUCK FIRST SERVE actually..

Maybe they have problems transporting the b.yond sets to Malaysian Borneo via a shipliner... I mean acroos the south china sea.. The delivery will be fast if they used MAScargo... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Fly1968 @ Jan 4 2010, 05:36 PM)
Spent RM11 on this splitter but found that it doesn't work ! connected both old decoder > s.video > tv and new decoder > hdmi > tv, can watch all channel on byond but when switch to old decoder, it display "service currently not available", no satelite signal at all.

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both your new and old decoders will be able to tune to SD channels simultaneously
however when your HD decoder is tuning to HD channel, it selected higher frequency range in LNB, old decoder also forced to receive higher frequency, but there is no SD channels in these higher frequency.
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 4 2010, 08:59 PM)
Well i juz called astro cs juz now..

this cs guy said that...

Q: I want to semak status of my application with acc number 08xxxxxx-x

A: Telemarketing call you at 28th Dec... So, you will get notifications about installer on the 10th day!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  9th or 10th Jan... You have been enlisted in a WAITING LIST!!

Well, 10 days of waiting for installer actually, not within 10 days!!  vmad.gif

Wonder y other ppl get their b.yond so fast not less than a week from register,,,  rclxub.gif

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Did they check it before they take it from U?
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Better check it yourself. Just plug out your new decoder and fix the older one. I did the same now, fix back my old black decoder which I get it 6 years ago and it still working fine.
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What package of astro you currently subscribe. I suspect they will based on the among to decide the installation.
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Based on the HD Channels currently available, you get 4 out of 5 channels

History HD
Nat Geo HD
ASSP HD
ESPN HD
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Thank you for the info Wunan. Wah still have to wait meh? Hmm i hope the longest i have to wait os one hour tho. Really tak sabar dh!!

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Based on the HD Channels currently available, you get 4 out of 5 channels

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 4 2010, 08:59 PM)
Well i juz called astro cs juz now..

this cs guy said that...

Q: I want to semak status of my application with acc number 08xxxxxx-x

A: Telemarketing call you at 28th Dec... So, you will get notifications about installer on the 10th day!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  9th or 10th Jan... You have been enlisted in a WAITING LIST!!

Well, 10 days of waiting for installer actually, not within 10 days!!  vmad.gif

Wonder y other ppl get their b.yond so fast not less than a week from register,,,  rclxub.gif

In Astro B.yond, FIRST LUCK FIRST SERVE actually..

Maybe they have problems transporting the b.yond sets to Malaysian Borneo via a shipliner... I mean acroos the south china sea.. The delivery will be fast if they used MAScargo...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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i did asked this question to the contractor installed the service as well.. What the reply is... "ALL LUCK".

ANyway, my astro byond taking 3 days from start apply to finish installation. Damm fast~
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Tip: If your TV have both HDMI and component connector available, connect both to your Byond decoder. Watch HD on HDMI and SD on component.  SD channel more vivid and sharper on  component. It does make a difference.  rclxms.gif
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hi bro, how about S-video cable? is it available in the new decoder? thx
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hi bro, how about S-video cable? is it available in the new decoder? thx
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Back of the new decoder. You can see yourself what input and output available
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hi bro, how about S-video cable? is it available in the new decoder? thx
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No S-video only HDMI, Component and composite...

Decoder picx link:
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Back of the new decoder. You can see yourself what input and output available
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What is the purpose of audio cable there? To the amp?

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Jan 4 2010, 07:04 PM)
Agree!  doh.gif For now,i'm using a Panasonic 40" Plasma and i'm using HDMI to connect the Astro Byond to my TV. But it seems that, when i watch SD channels using HDMI,the PQ seems to be a bit lower compared to if i watch SD channels using composite. Can you explain why is that so? Or is it just me that feels the PQ is lower.
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Hi all, i plan to convert to Astro Beyond soon. i really like watching movei in HD.

But after reading this, abit worried, pay for 4 good channel but have to sacrifice the picture quality for the rest of other channel. (Wah Lai Toi, MTV etc etc)

For my old non astro beyond decoder, i found out that S cable give the best PQ.

Would like to check again, since the new decoder use HDMI to give the best PQ for HD channel, will it affect the normal non HD channel PQ, at least on par with the S-cable quality?

thanks in advance for clarification.
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Hi, wanna know if install the new b.yong set will be required to pay additional RM20/month in order to watch HD?
BTW, if those old TV dont have hdmi port?
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 4 2010, 09:35 PM)
No S-video only HDMI, Component and composite...

Decoder picx link:
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What is the purpose of audio cable there? To the amp?
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thanks alot azrin and deani. perhaps TS can post this in first post so other forum reader can see this, i'm sure alot of ppl would like to know this.
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Hi all, i plan to convert to Astro Beyond soon. i really like watching movei in HD.

But after reading this, abit worried, pay for 4 good channel but have to sacrifice the picture quality for the rest of other channel. (Wah Lai Toi, MTV etc etc)

For my old non astro beyond decoder, i found out that S cable give the best PQ.

Would like to check again, since the new decoder use HDMI to give the best PQ for HD channel, will it affect the normal non HD channel PQ, at least on par with the S-cable quality?

thanks in advance for clarification.
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I did not use a very expensive S-video cable, so for me the PQ for other SD channels seems to be the same

BTW, sad news is, I only managed to watch my astro for 2 hours after the B.yond installation... After a heavy rain now totally cannot receive signal, and need to wait the technician to come and resolve this issue.

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My only discovery. So very basic package.

QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 4 2010, 08:59 PM)
Well i juz called astro cs juz now..

this cs guy said that...

Q: I want to semak status of my application with acc number 08xxxxxx-x

A: Telemarketing call you at 28th Dec... So, you will get notifications about installer on the 10th day!!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  9th or 10th Jan... You have been enlisted in a WAITING LIST!!

Well, 10 days of waiting for installer actually, not within 10 days!!  vmad.gif

Wonder y other ppl get their b.yond so fast not less than a week from register,,,  rclxub.gif

In Astro B.yond, FIRST LUCK FIRST SERVE actually..

Maybe they have problems transporting the b.yond sets to Malaysian Borneo via a shipliner... I mean acroos the south china sea.. The delivery will be fast if they used MAScargo...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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At least U get the call from astro. I called them so many time but still no astro people call. Say within 24 hour. But now more than how many 24 hour already. After get astro call, another 10 day waiting I think.
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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jan 4 2010, 09:35 PM)
No S-video only HDMI, Component and composite...

What is the purpose of audio cable there? To the amp?
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That was not my picture since I have not yet install b.yond. May be those cable goes to amp... tongue.gif

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My only discovery. So very basic package.
At least U get the call from astro. I called them so many time but still no astro people call. Say within 24 hour. But now more than how many 24 hour already. After get astro call, another 10 day waiting I think.
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I did not use a very expensive S-video cable, so for me the PQ for other SD channels seems to be the same

BTW, sad news is, I only managed to watch my astro for 2 hours after the B.yond installation... After a heavy rain now totally cannot receive signal, and need to wait the technician to come and resolve this issue.
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thanks bro. at least it will not be that bad. perhaps some bro with S video cable last time can comment on this.

haiz, astro and the heavy rain, i think forever not able to solve!
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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Jan 4 2010, 09:39 PM)
Hi all, i plan to convert to Astro Beyond soon. i really like watching movei in HD.

But after reading this, abit worried, pay for 4 good channel but have to sacrifice the picture quality for the rest of other channel. (Wah Lai Toi, MTV etc etc)

For my old non astro beyond decoder, i found out that S cable give the best PQ.

Would like to check again, since the new decoder use HDMI to give the best PQ for HD channel, will it affect the normal non HD channel PQ, at least on par with the S-cable quality?

thanks in advance for clarification.
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yes, this is the main concern.. as for me, i've no doubt on the HD channel eventhough it's 720p n upscaling
to 1080i. But what about the rest of SD channel? My wife sure will mad.gif after those free promo of astro byond been
briefed by me for last couple of weeks, end up the SD PQ worst than current composite cable set up biggrin.gif
And all those NatGeo, History n sports mostly watch by me only...
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yes, this is the main concern.. as for me, i've no doubt on the HD channel eventhough it's 720p n upscaling
to 1080i. But what about the rest of SD channel? My wife sure will  mad.gif after those free promo of astro byond been
briefed  by me for last couple of weeks, end up the SD PQ worst than current composite cable set up biggrin.gif 
And all those NatGeo, History n sports mostly watch by me only...
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haha, yo bro! exactly the same situation i'm in now smile.gif for sure will kena screw big time if normal SD channel have worse PQ.

let's hope some astro beyond owner here can help us smile.gif
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Hello,
Anyone from Johore Bahru? May i know long they take to install from the time you register or Astro call u. Thanks

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Are the contents of Supersport HD the same with the normal supersport?
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Are the contents of Supersport HD the same with the normal supersport?
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Hell no, it's been broadcasting NFL matches that we don't give a damn

BTW, my problem is fixed, the issue was loose cable on the decoder (i feel so stupid!)
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some of the Live programmes are...

the in betweens are different
with regular supersport having some SD programmes... and supersport HD having other HD programmes or repeats of previous live telecasts
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are u sure the SD PQ from old astro better than new astro?
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Anyone from Johore Bahru?  May i know long they take to install from the time you register or Astro call u.  Thanks
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Luck... Anywhere in Malaysia, all applications depending on luck... some 3 days some over 10 days
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mine....sure!! every connection i d try....
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learned to watch NFL.. to fully utilise HD while waiting ESPN HD to become available..

btw as someone just say, TS really need to post to FAQ @ first page for those newcomers smile.gif
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learned to watch NFL.. to fully utilise HD while waiting ESPN HD to become available..

btw as someone just say, TS really need to post to FAQ @ first page for those newcomers smile.gif
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astro's own faq not good enough?
http://www.astro.com.my/byond/faq.asp
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For my case, they called me after 3 days to confirm the t&c... they say need to take about 10 to 14 working days to install.
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are u sure the SD PQ from old astro better than new astro?
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More or less the same on SD channels. Hard to tell. But the stereo sound is definitely better.
Wait until they have better ways of utilizing the overscan video output (thru HDMI) and smarter ways to stretch the 4:3 source.
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Wah Lai Toi for drama seems nicer. Almost Dvd quality, anyone agree? Thanks.
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yes, this is the main concern.. as for me, i've no doubt on the HD channel eventhough it's 720p n upscaling
to 1080i. But what about the rest of SD channel? My wife sure will  mad.gif after those free promo of astro byond been
briefed  by me for last couple of weeks, end up the SD PQ worst than current composite cable set up biggrin.gif 
And all those NatGeo, History n sports mostly watch by me only...
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First, buy a rm50 s-video cable and second, change to plasma TV if you re not on one yet, and I'm sure she will be impressed smile.gif Composite video on an LCD TV will give the worst performance of SD astro.
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I wonder if b.yond has red button feature
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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Jan 4 2010, 09:42 PM)
thanks alot azrin and deani. perhaps TS can post this in first post so other forum reader can see this, i'm sure alot of ppl would like to know this.
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im not dare to put it in the first page due to the picture publication resposible..sorry..picture attach are in their own responsibility..sorry..thanks
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QUOTE(putih @ Jan 4 2010, 11:26 PM)
First, buy a rm50 s-video cable and second, change to plasma TV if you re not on one yet, and I'm sure she will be impressed smile.gif Composite video on an LCD TV will give the worst performance of SD astro.
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tq for those suggestion. I already into the LCD TV. My samsung series 5 do not have any s-video input. Anyway if she can bare with composite, hope
that with HDMI the PQ for SD channel will be no less than composite set up n great if it can be better.
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More or less the same on SD channels. Hard to tell. But the stereo sound is definitely better.
Wait until they have better ways of utilizing the overscan video output (thru HDMI) and smarter ways to stretch the 4:3 source.
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Same here. Hard to tell. May be s-video (old decoder)slightly better. But depends on channel. Indian channels (like zee etc) looks ok.
But they promise it'll be better with mpeg4!
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Tried to connect the component input simultaneously for SD channels - doesn't look that good. Via HDMI slightly better to my eyes. Furthermore I think there's a bit of flickering and there's a faint blue line appears in the middle of the screen.

Using Pana 42 - TH-42PS10K.

I can switch to and fro (flipping between TV input). Sound goes out via composite.

All function looks fine accept the PQ reported above.

I think I'll make do with the SD PQ via HDMI.

I've checked my pana, it has ability to turn off overscan - should I do this? Is it a good idea? why? - so that it's exact 1 to 1 mapping of pixel?

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Please clarify whether no "Astro on demand" when b-yond decoder was first installled or not possible to get this service now, after decoder already installed for a few days.
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after one week then the astro on demand some channel cant watch...like 901 until 908 can watch..921,922,923 cant watch then 924 till 930 can watch...wats the problem...
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After going through here,it seems that there is quite a number of people who have problem that is distorted video while using component or composite. I am also having this problem when I use composite to see SD channels. Any idea what is the problem?
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Hi, I managed to solved the composite - picture shaking problem, just goto the TV-picture menu setting (for pana plasma/LCD TV) , turn "off" the 3D-Com option and set P-NR to weak or middle. but my component 1/2 top section picture distorted problem still remain unsolve . cry.gif
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anyone using SAMSUNG SERIES 4 Plasma TV PS42B430?
can anyone tell me what i should do with the audio or picture settings when i get my b.yond?
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Anyone from kota kinabalu, sabah got the beyond? Wonder how long do the installer need to come n setup for me. Can't wait to get the beyond and give them a try, as i just got myself a brand new DENON AVR-4810 receiver, and would really like to try how's those stock HDMI cable compare with those audioquest and QED HDMI cables, i do believe there's differences between them. Just like you can reach JB from KL say 4 hrs driving your very own mercedes, driving kancil also 4 hrs. What's the difference? You know i know lo
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QUOTE(azri @ Jan 5 2010, 12:11 AM)
Tried to connect the component input simultaneously for SD channels - doesn't look that good. Via HDMI slightly better to my eyes. Furthermore I think there's a bit of flickering and there's a faint blue line appears in the middle of the screen.

Using Pana 42 - TH-42PS10K.

I can switch to and fro (flipping between TV input). Sound goes out via composite.

All function looks fine accept the PQ reported above.

I think I'll make do with the SD PQ via HDMI.

I've checked my pana, it has ability to turn off overscan - should I do this? Is it a good idea? why? - so that it's exact 1 to 1 mapping of pixel?
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thats because the component output is distorted.... like mine =___=... another decoder defect issue here, damn
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4 issues i want to know before getting B.Yond: hmm.gif

1. Is SD PQ on B.Yond better or worse compared with the old Astro decoder?

2. In V1.0 a lot of people complained about the volume difference between SD and HD channels. Is the problem still there or has it been fixed or do we need to fix it ourselves?

3. What should I set up once I get the B.Yond box? After the installer leaves, what should I do to get the best PQ and sound quality? I'm using SAMSUNG SERIES 4 Plasma TV PS42B430.

4. Can use old cable from dish to decoder or does the installer replace the old cable with a new one?

Please guys. Help me. Thank you icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(azri @ Jan 5 2010, 12:11 AM)
I've checked my pana, it has ability to turn off overscan - should I do this? Is it a good idea? why? - so that it's exact 1 to 1 mapping of pixel?
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What overscan does is zoom into the picture by about 3-5%. The internal video scaler will compensate by filling up the gaps. But just like zooming in a photo, it degrades it a bit.

For me, I would turn off overscan primarily because I have movies in 1.85:1 aspect ratio in my collection. I want to see the whole picture and not a zoomed in one.

QUOTE(sciguy @ Jan 5 2010, 01:07 AM)
would really like to try how's those stock HDMI cable compare with those audioquest and QED HDMI cables, i do believe there's differences between them. Just like you can reach JB from KL say 4 hrs driving your very own mercedes, driving kancil also 4 hrs. What's the difference? You know i know lo
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Bad analogy. Four people can be in that JB-KL trip and each of them will experience things differently; the smell, the sights, the jokes and the silence. Just ask each of them what do they get out of the trip and each will tell things differently.

Digital data is not like that. You can spend money on those expensive HDMI cables but at the end, they'll still deliver the same digital data than RM22 HDMI cable from Carrefour can give.


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finally i managed to change satellite entry point from #1 to #18. previously i said there is no "OK" or "Yes" button to save my new settings. but after recieved updating from astro (around 1am today) i managed to see the "OK" or "Yes" button. My software version rite now is 1.0.1.001 dec 23 2009.

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have a question here, does supersport hd broadcast wwe in hd? every tuesday for raw. thanks. smile.gif
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Anyone from kota kinabalu, sabah got the beyond? Wonder how long do the installer need to come n setup for me. Can't wait to get the beyond and give them a try, as i just got myself a brand new DENON AVR-4810 receiver, and would really like to try how's those stock HDMI cable compare with those audioquest and QED HDMI cables, i do believe there's differences between them. Just like you can reach JB from KL say 4 hrs driving your very own mercedes, driving kancil also 4 hrs. What's the difference? You know i know lo
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Well in earlier post... Even monster cable will give da same result as astro hdmi cable...

Here in beaufort not even one have b.yond although many has applied .. sabah is put back in da list
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