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post Jan 1 2010, 11:10 AM

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I subcribe last year but until this year no call yet from installer.
Haiyaa. So long waiting.
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post Jan 1 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(mlthum @ Jan 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
bro.. r u saying that it can be done even though we subscribe to astro beyond? i don't mind my bedroom without HD quality at least i can watch. Any idea where to buy those splitter/extenders???
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Maybe u can get it at jalan pasar. But it's very expensive.
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post Jan 2 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 12:31 AM)
I'm just wondering, why ASTRO's new decoder didnt have a setting to output default resolutions as it is broadcasted? For example if the channel is 576i, then just output that, etc... instead of forcing us to choose 720p or 1080i... I understand this option allows hd ready tv to be viewed, but if only they could include another option with "Broadcasted resolution".
Broadcast resolution? I like this thing. biggrin.gif
But not so sure whether other tv broadcaster such as SKY TV also implement this setting.

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post Jan 2 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 2 2010, 12:43 PM)
Astro transmit 1080p? I thought they only transmit 1080i?

In any case tho, the idea is for support for cheaper HDMI video capture cards. RM1200 is a lot, and sumore no guaranteed support for usage in WinMCE. Otoh, Avermedia's card got support guaranteed, but won't receive 50Hz input (I had a long talk with their support staff). And there's no equivalent in Asian region. Only US have AVerMedia HDMI video capture cards.

Edit: turns out that the Auzentech's HDMI cannot be used for capture at all...
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Most HDTV production is 1080p, it's just transmission that is 1080i as it uses less bandwidth.
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post Jan 2 2010, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 2 2010, 06:00 PM)
Call from Astro marketing was fast...within days.... but waiting for installer to come was long =__=... 15th dec till now... bleh!
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Hahaha. rclxms.gif Ur location?
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post Jan 2 2010, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(kuekss @ Jan 2 2010, 08:54 PM)
called astro cs just now..they say ESPN HD will show in end of january...sad...
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Hopefully not in end of february. Hahaha. Their promise is always sux.
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post Jan 2 2010, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Jan 2 2010, 08:13 PM)
Having used Sky, DirectTV, FoxTel and many other decoders, NONE of them switch the output to the TV. In ALL cases the decoder is set to one resolution and the chips in the box do the conversion.

One of the biggest criticisms of Digital TV in the early days was channel surf times, the delay between switching channels. If the TV switched modes then this would be worse! Hence the fixed mode output.
Typically, channel surf times become less of an issue as people start using the EPG to find programs, rather than channel surf. Now that Astro B.yond has a decent EPG we should stop being a nation of surfers and become searchers!
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It is means astro also can be infected with this delay problem if a lot of people surf the channel?
Until now I dont have any problem when surfing channel.
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post Jan 2 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 2 2010, 09:14 PM)
I am using Toshiba Regza 32CV500E, it is not Full HD, worth it to get B.YOND?
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Same model with me. I thinks should not any problem when using with byond.
BTW byond not broadcast in Full HD either.
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post Jan 3 2010, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 2 2010, 09:55 PM)
Oh, but the quality will be as clear as the one on Electronic shop or not?
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Mostly electric shop using Bluray as their media source. So the quality is more clear than byond.
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QUOTE(taq_gt @ Jan 3 2010, 07:03 AM)
hi,sorry guys wanna ask something,i found out when i using 576p and 720p picture more clear compare to 1080 when watching sd channel,(using 40inc lcd fullhd)just my eyes or its true?u all people realy advance than astro customer service.s1 n s2 i really dono wat is it.cannot follow. rclxub.gif
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Astro CS person dont do their homework just like we all did. They just know about basic thing other than answer the phone.
Maybe u can ask astro technical person directly instead of CS person.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jan 3 2010, 10:24 AM)
oops, right...almost forgot the hd channels were mixed in the same transponders as sd...  but i beg to differ with the bandwidth thing, if no one complains im very sure they will maintain it for the time being and slowly decrease the bitrate as more channels are added in...just like what happened to those sd channels. lets just enjoy the good quality while it lasts... cool.gif
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Hopefully when we all start paying they should give us optimum bandwidth for HD channel. Right now because they dont charge anything so it still acceptable.

Good quality 720p HD takes at least 10-12Mbps with MPEG-4, and I think 15Mbps is a more reasonable minimum even 28Mbps isn't enough to eliminate all artifacts (based on D-Theater tape bitrates and quality). At 8Mbps, it becomes noticably lower quality.

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QUOTE(silbii @ Jan 3 2010, 12:31 PM)
it's been more than 2 weeks after calling and no news yet! hmm  sad.gif
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Same with me. I already call CS twice but got same result. Ur location?
BTW I at damansara damai PJ.
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post Jan 3 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jan 3 2010, 12:46 PM)
Hi,

Just got mine 2 days ago and found out that my 2.5years old Plasma 42" DVI-HDMI convertor no work sad.gif I am now on component video until I upgrade to a Full HD LCD or Plasma. Oh well even on component the quality is much better. Think I will wait a while for some good deal to come alone since there is only 5 channel now. Maybe world cup is a good time to upgrade to a 50 inch LCD.
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Are u old plasma is HD ready?

From what I know, HD ready TV should meet this minimum requirement:
1- A native resolution of at least 720 lines in widescreen format
2- The ability to accept HD input in YPbPr and via DVI or HDMI
2- It must accept 720p50, 720p60, 1080i25 and 1080i30 input signals
4- The DVI or HDMI input supports HDCP content protection
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QUOTE(aerobowl @ Jan 3 2010, 05:24 PM)
this thing really help if rain? if yes then is a nice thing to invest..
how much btw?
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Actually not worth to buy. Cannot really help during heavy rain.
Price around RM100.
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QUOTE(kazasho @ Jan 3 2010, 07:48 PM)
well I apply online, still havent yet got a call. might call astro tmrrw. any suggestion?
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I wait more than 2 days before CS call me back.
Call CS: 16 Dec
T&C: 18 Dec
Until now just waiting for installer call.


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post Jan 5 2010, 11:31 PM

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Damm astro. Still now no call from installer. Register on 16 Dec.
Waiting almost a month already.
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post Jan 6 2010, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 6 2010, 03:21 PM)
finally...i got my astro b.yond installed
Registered on 15th dec
T&C on 15th dec
after many complain
installed on 5th january

it's still activating and software update
they didn't change the cable or the satellite dish...but they leave it to us..it's all here
signal is 220-222

but the weird thing is they didn't take back anything.....they say their boss told them not to take back anything
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At last u got byond already rclxms.gif . My T&C on 18 dec and still waiting until now. sad.gif
How many person here wait more than 20 days to get byond?


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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Jan 6 2010, 07:17 PM)
mad.gif  ... jelus!  tongue.gif

i am not subscribed to Movies but that was one of the first thing I checked as well when installation is complete  laugh.gif

but sad to say no easter eggs for me  sad.gif
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From what i know from previous post, HBO HD only available for free just for 5 days after byond subcription activation.

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QUOTE(shahiryusoff @ Jan 6 2010, 08:51 PM)
Really? shocking.gif  But i'm not getting it. It has been 3days since my byond was intalled and activated. Weird.  rclxub.gif
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I'm also not so sure about this. But from what I understand, smartcard activation and account activation is different part.
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One more problem is astro broadcast both SD and HD channel on same transponder.

Astro currently put 2 HD + 10 SD channel on one transponder and I absofcukinglutely they broadcast very low quality HD.

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Jan 6 2010, 10:27 PM)
I have pointed my PC based analyser at Astros HD broadcast they are on an entirely different satellite to the SD. All the SD broadcasts are on Measat 3 and the HD broadcasts are on Measat 3a.

If Astro were indeed broadcasting HD on the same transponder as SD then they would not have any problem with shared feed systems, this would be the easy option for them, but they have not taken it (surprisingly).

Astros HD picture quality is far better than many HD broadcasts I have seen around the world (especially the USA), it looks like they are using new HD encoders and not just cheap upgrades of their existing system.

The BBC in the UK are broadcasting their HD at the same bitrate as Astro having recently moved to new HD encoders. For results of their independent tests see http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/news...re-quality.html.

Do you really think that Astro is low quality HD, have you actually seen it? Your statement would make it seem as if you have not!
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I get the info from lyngsat.com. If their info is not correct than it my mistake. biggrin.gif
Because from what I know, astro have to stick 5 HD channel per transponder for optimum HD quality.
From the image below HBO HD, NAT GEO HD and rest 10 SD channel broadcast on same transponder.

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