if u have that cable,just try it...rite now i use QED HDMI-P...it better than d cable supplied by astro...minimal fast object ghosting .

Does it mean that have to tune any SD channel before switching from the b.yond to old decoder? shall try it out tonight.

This post has been edited by Fly1968: Jan 5 2010, 06:46 AM

i think people are over excited with the only 4 HD channels by byond but ignoring 2 serious problems of byond that many have reported:

1) SD channels picture quality is poorer if watch via HDMI
2) byond component and composite output for many decorders (if not ALL) are having problem which mean you stuck with HDMI output and poorer SD channels via HDMI

dun forget, this new samrtcard cannot put in other decoder..

I have signed up on 17 Dec and only got their call for confirmation of T&C on 23 Dec after giving them a follow-up call.

Till now, yet to receive any call on installation arrangement.

With the unsatisfactory feedback from those who have the new decoder, I am reconsidering whether to proceed with the installation since most of the programmes that my family is watching are still in SD -- Wah Lai Toi and AOD.

finally i managed to change satellite entry point from #1 to #18. previously i said there is no "OK" or "Yes" button to save my new settings. but after recieved updating from astro (around 1am today) i managed to see the "OK" or "Yes" button. My software version rite now is 1.0.1.001 dec 23 2009.


for me sd channel via hdmi is acceptable, slightly improve the PQ. b4 this using composite. connect my second tc(crt) via wireless av transmitter(bought @ jalan pasar) without any problem. happy with pq & sq quality.

This post has been edited by tHeRiDdLeR: Jan 5 2010, 09:34 AM

The ultimate goal is to reach JB at the same time.
Since both of them can done that, WHY PAY MORE?

This post has been edited by JOR23N: Jan 5 2010, 09:39 AM

My software version rite now is 1.0.1.001 dec 23 2009.

woo, new software version, tonite go back must check it out

to be honest, the output from hdmi for SD channels are ok la, not much diff from component that its a little more vibrant and sharper.

the reason is simple

vibrant because the SD channels did not go through upscale by the decoder, hence most colour information is retained when not resized. once resize from 576i to 1080i... its such a big difference... colour appear to be less vibrant and a little more dull

sharper because it did not go through scaling again, resize to such a big resolution results in slight blurness that is quite negligible in this case.


Overall, here is the reason why I'd prefer broadcasted resolution instead of 1080i fixed.... because with broadcasted resolution, once tuned SD it will be 576i and the tv will know how to adjust properly... and i have to say the tv resize capabilities of mine is far better than the one inside the decoder box. Of course you might argue will have a blank moment for the tv to adjust the settings, but i'd say i wouldnt mind...better than tuning component for SD and hdmi for HD, even more troublesome since I need to manually change the AV channel on my tv.

So bro, u means let the tv to adjust itself, rite? but what setting u use in the decoder?

Yep... but the stupid decoder dont have such setting.... force u to either live with 576i, 576p, 720p or 1080i...... so yeah were doomed for now lol

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Added on January 5, 2010, 10:27 amdamn... mine still oct.... doesnt seem to auto update? did ures auto update?

This post has been edited by kaspersky-fan: Jan 5 2010, 10:27 AM

How to install & update this firmware version: 1.0.1.001 dec 23 2009.

Put the decoder of standby, mine updated after I put on standby on the first day..

i tried that, it didnt work.... i guess this dumb box is a real defect, cant auto update lol

Try upnplugging it from mains, wait few minutes, then plugging back. Once plug back, leave it on standby (let LED show time) for a few hours. Mine updated as soon as the installer connected the dish cable to the box and then unplug the decoder and plug back in.

Another thing Astro should offer on the decoder: a "check for updates now" option in the setup screen, Like PS3 and Wii. Make things easier. Also, they should put the "download channel list" option. I cannot find the option on the b.yond box.

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Jan 5 2010, 10:52 AM

you can ask the astro CS for the installer contact after 1 week of the T&C comformation. sometimes installer didn't manage to get the correct customer contact from Astro. for my case, I signed up on 22 Dec and confirmation of T&C on 23 Dec, installer told me he got my byond decode on 28 Dec but he can't reach me with the wrong phone contact provided by astro, on 30 Dec 2 pm I called astro CS to get the installer contact and installer came to my place immediately after i contacted him.

Both byond and old decode, Picture quality almost same lah for composite out. only the byond component out give problem.

just leave it on standby mode. my software updated early this morning(around 1am). managed to see the updating progress.


yup, u are right. there is no "download channel list" option. hope will have this option again. maybe in next software update.

This post has been edited by tHeRiDdLeR: Jan 5 2010, 11:10 AM

Tnx will check this evening...I switched off entirely since Y'day..

i yhink the decorder should always on standby la...no need to switch off..

Well said, Astro should do it ! Even that impotent oops important features have been compressed !! Oh yeah I forgot Astro kan wont listen to customers, they are so clever leh !!

This post has been edited by smileguy: Jan 5 2010, 11:41 AM