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post Apr 17 2022, 05:00 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Previous versions:
Let's talk salary
Let's Talk Salary v2
Let's Talk Salary v3
Let's talk salary v4
Let's talk salary v5
Let's talk salary v6
Let's talk salary v7
Let's talk salary v8


V9 continuation from previous thread. What a crazy past few years it has been. With COVID transforming the job market, alongside with Great Resignation in the US influencing work culture everywhere else, some changes to format has been made. If the previous thread's revision is to provide a more comprehensive view on total remuneration (as single salary numbers are often deceiving), this round's changes in format is to capture latest trends of Work-From-Home, more annual leaves and future growth prospects.


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Job Title :
Job Desciption :
Age :
Years spent in company :
Company :
Industry :
Tenure :
Employment Level :
Experience before joining (years) :
Highest paper qualification/ education background :
Location :
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM
Contractual Bonus (months): mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: X days in a month
Annual Leaves: X days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes / No / Partial?

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits :
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Overpaid / Average / Underpaid / Don't know
Growth prospects : Good room for growth? At the end of growth spectrum for this role? Not much room for growth? Sky is the limit? No idea?
Where I will go from here : Describe the next role that you think you will be able to realistically get in your next jump.
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post Apr 19 2022, 12:25 PM

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post Apr 19 2022, 02:10 PM

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Job Title : Software Engineer (Java Backend)
Job Desciption : Java backend
Age :28
Years spent in company : almost 3 years
Industry : Fintech
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 6000

should I jump for better offer or just stay in comfort zone?

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post Apr 19 2022, 05:19 PM

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post Apr 19 2022, 05:31 PM

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Job Title : Staff Engineer
Job Desciption : Responsible for product transfer from Design to NPI to Mass Pro
Age : 41
Years spent in company : 6
Company : -
Industry : data security products
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 12
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Double Masters UTM
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours on paper....unlimited hours if required.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD7650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mths

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid (foreigner rate is lower....but the work is even more...)
Growth prospects : Good room for growth...but.....stress to the max to meet deadline.
Where I will go from here : Go n retire in msia

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post Apr 19 2022, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Apr 19 2022, 02:10 PM)
Job Title : Software Engineer (Java Backend)
Job Desciption : Java backend
Age :28
Years spent in company : almost 3 years
Industry : Fintech
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 6000

should I jump for better offer or just stay in comfort zone?
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enuff meh RM6000....with the cost of living now...better venture out....try singapore.....fintech good demand here


This post has been edited by Bossku_Johor: Apr 19 2022, 05:38 PM
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM

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Job Title : HR Executive
Job Desciption : kuli generalist
Age :27
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : mixed, local small company
Employment Level : executive
Experience before joining (years) : 2.5 years
Location : Johor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 54 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 4000

Lost in life, not sure if this field is what I want.
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 19 2022, 05:31 PM)
Job Title : Staff Engineer
Job Desciption : Responsible for product transfer from Design to NPI to Mass Pro
Age : 41
Years spent in company : 6
Company : -
Industry : data security products
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 12
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Double Masters UTM
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours on paper....unlimited hours if required.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD7650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mths

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid (foreigner rate is lower....but the work is even more...)
Growth prospects : Good room for growth...but.....stress to the max to meet deadline.
Where I will go from here : Go n retire in msia
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hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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post Apr 20 2022, 09:22 AM

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post Apr 20 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM)
hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master's program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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Life-changing? not exactly. I took it to get better job prospects, but the salary in MYR...cannot la........I decided to move to Spore when SGD converted is better....may look like a lot...
but frankly ....it's just nice...

The double masters program was a credit transfer program from UTM. M,Sc and MBA

It's good to have a masters in the long run when you want to go up the corporate ladder...and move into management...
a masters will be a stepping stone for you.

If you have the time and resources , then go for it....


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post Apr 20 2022, 05:37 PM

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Job Title : Sr Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : BAU task, in-house project engineer
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 1 and 3 months
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 10 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : diploma with pro certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM19k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4~ mths (for 2021 performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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post Apr 21 2022, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(hiroshi87 @ Apr 19 2022, 05:19 PM)
Job Title : Sr Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : BAU task, in-house project engineer
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 1 and 3 months
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 10 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : diploma with pro certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM19k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4~ mths (for 2021 performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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is this TnG?
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post Apr 21 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 20 2022, 09:18 AM)
hey hey, wanna ask if you can give advice

is getting master a life changing experience? i was at the junction that either take master program at UTM or not, seeing that you took 2, would like to ask
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If you're in IT, which seems like it, better take related certs imo.
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post Apr 21 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 10:36 AM)
If you're in IT, which seems like it, better take related certs imo.
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I'm coming from finance, which is not IT background so to say.. any advice on this as well?
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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 21 2022, 10:38 AM)
I'm coming from finance, which is not IT background so to say.. any advice on this as well?
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Your job title sounds like you would be doing data engineering/science so that was my guess. If you like looking at data maybe can delve deeper into AI/ML.

My lecturer once said along the lines that if you take masters without aim is like learning to make pineapple pizza when you actually like chicken pizza.
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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 10:48 AM)
Your job title sounds like you would be doing data engineering/science so that was my guess. If you like looking at data maybe can delve deeper into AI/ML.

My lecturer once said along the lines that if you take masters without aim is like learning to make pineapple pizza when you actually like chicken pizza.
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Yes I'm actually wanna go into ML but I do not have anyone to ask at the moment... If you don't mind, can you let me know what kind of certs I could take in order to be "professional certified" in data/AI/ML role?

I did some research but I was still generally confuse, like Azure certification is mostly on teach you how to use azure without showing you the meaning of statistics behind, alteryx is like teach u how to use alteryx and that's it, same goes to IBM one

And yes I'm currently thinking of taking masters just for the sake of career progression, but even my manager was unsure what should I take and what path will it leads me (like what ur lecturer says la)

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 21 2022, 10:54 AM)
Yes I'm actually wanna go into ML but I do not have anyone to ask at the moment... If you don't mind, can you let me know what kind of certs I could take in order to be "professional certified" in data/AI/ML role?

I did some research but I was still generally confuse, like Azure certification is mostly on teach you how to use azure without showing you the meaning of statistics behind, alteryx is like teach u how to use alteryx and that's it, same goes to IBM one

And yes I'm currently thinking of taking masters just for the sake of career progression, but even my manager was unsure what should I take and what path will it leads me (like what ur lecturer says la)
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I think is good choice to take up ML as a lot of analyst job posting mentions this. I might not be the best to ask for this as I'm not too different from you in experience and ML is way too big of a field but I feel we should only be looking at "pro certs" by MS/Google/IBM when you have a workflow depending on it, or you know you can leverage the technology. At the core they are offering APIs that speed up the general ML workflow.

I've did a lot ML courses and they're all very similar (teaching the workflow), which leads me to believe we just have to practice as there's too many algorithms or techniques to be taught in courses. Maybe you can start with those general courses then work your way up to Azure/Google ...etc because I think these would make you "professionally certified" as you can leverage large scale AI in the cloud. Then maybe masters, because ML papers are mostly about implementing algo X on problem Y which is so specific.

There's some courses offered by big names like Standford or Google, you can look, but I think you can see from this list. They're more or less about the same things.

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QUOTE(AssToast @ Apr 21 2022, 11:15 AM)
I think is good choice to take up ML as a lot of analyst job posting mentions this. I might not be the best to ask for this as I'm not too different from you in experience and ML is way too big of a field but I feel we should only be looking at "pro certs"  by MS/Google/IBM when you have a workflow depending on it, or you know you can leverage the technology. At the core they are offering APIs that speed up the general ML workflow.

I've did a lot ML courses and they're all very similar (teaching the workflow), which leads me to believe we just have to practice as there's too many algorithms or techniques to be taught in courses. Maybe you can start with those general courses then work your way up to Azure/Google ...etc because I think these would make you "professionally certified" as you can leverage large scale AI in the cloud. Then maybe masters, because ML papers are mostly about implementing algo X on problem Y which is so specific.

There's some courses offered by big names like Standford or Google, you can look, but I think you can see from this list. They're more or less about the same things.
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Yep, I got the same idea from those ML courses too! Azure for example, they provide a mindmap for you, and teach you how to plug and play the model, that's it.

Same thing when i go for other python courses, they just teach you about which code you should write under which circumstances, and that's it.

there is no such courses as "professional certification" like comptia or anything in ML, its like a mixed bag of items and you do what you pleased.
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QUOTE(brianw87 @ Apr 20 2022, 05:37 PM)
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lol .. i am 1 of the lowest pay guy among my gang. it's all about hardwork bro ..
if u think i am getting good pay around my age, try to look at those doing cloud, blockchain web3 etc and their pay at their age .

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Apr 21 2022, 09:33 AM)
is this TnG?
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nope.. half-gov comp smile.gif
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nope.. half-gov comp smile.gif
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semi government

i assume that would be Paynet
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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ Apr 21 2022, 12:27 PM)
Yep, I got the same idea from those ML courses too! Azure for example, they provide a mindmap for you, and teach you how to plug and play the model, that's it.

Same thing when i go for other python courses, they just teach you about which code you should write under which circumstances, and that's it.

there is no such courses as "professional certification" like comptia or anything in ML, its like a mixed bag of items  and you do what you pleased.
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I think you can take a look at this course if you need somewhere to start, https://www.elementsofai.com/. I think it serves as a good starting point to understand what is the field of AI and their respective subfields.

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Job Desciption :

- Set up and implement Community Strategy and Operation as well as team management and mentorship towards corporate objectives and growth
- Guide and develop community content calendar and planning with the team
- Expansion and liaison of partnerships and cooperative initiatives.
- Regular reporting to the wider organization on current community trends, sentiment, and channel
performance; use data to inform recommendations for ongoing community outreach initiatives, messaging, promotions, and operations.

Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6 months & 2 month & 1 month
Company : Global
Industry : 2 Fintech - Blockchain , 1 Consulting Firm
Tenure : Contract basis / Contractor
Employment Level : Head / Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : STPM / Pre-U
Location : Remote
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 72+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :
1st Company:
USD80k/annum

2nd Company:
USD60k/annum

3rd Company:
Taking equity, no fixed salary

Total: USD140k/annum

Contractual Bonus (months):
1st company: 20% token release: worth $50k for now. Subsequently monthly unlock for 60 months: worth $200k for now

2nd company: $5k stable coin, $5k token if hit the milestone
mths

3rd company: no bonuses, once a project goes live will take the equity.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: remote
Annual Leaves: unlimited PTO
Flexi Working Hours : yes, just get the work done and hit the metric

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Not available
Transport Benefits : not available
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : not available
Other Benefits : not available

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Consider high paid
Growth prospects : Yes, community are one of most important for any company or project in blockchain industry, thus the sky is the limit

Where I will go from here : founder or co-founder for Fintech project
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normally in MNC company, how much % increment will be given when they use my payslip to get the offer?

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normally in MNC company, how much % increment will be given when they use my payslip to get the offer?
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Never show hand at the stage of interview or even negotiations

1. Do research of the role online, make comparison

After that, You can ask them, what is their budget for this role.

Inform them, you love to join their company, and believe the company would offer a competitive and fair compensation based on your experience and skills, what you can bring to the company

If they still adamant to get your payslip, politely tell them you will share your payslip after you signed any offer / contract

Leverage your experience/skill. Don’t let them lowball the offer based on your payslip


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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 19 2022, 05:37 PM)
enuff meh RM6000....with the cost of living now...better venture out....try singapore.....fintech good demand here
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he is just 28 years old. 6k not enough? I think this price is top 1 % of whole Malaysia in his age.
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QUOTE(kmykoh @ Apr 24 2022, 07:09 PM)
he is just 28 years old. 6k not enough? I think this price is top 1 % of whole Malaysia in his age.
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28 years old
6k
top 1%

The third statement doesn't sound realistic at all

Top 15 or 20% sounds more like it

At least from most of the people I know around me
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QUOTE(budang @ Apr 25 2022, 12:33 AM)
28 years old
6k
top 1%

The third statement doesn't sound realistic at all

Top 15 or 20% sounds more like it

At least from most of the people I know around me
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Yeah I agree. My mistake. Probably 10-15% nevertheless still a good price, not as bad as the other guy said.
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post Apr 30 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(kmykoh @ Apr 24 2022, 07:09 PM)
he is just 28 years old. 6k not enough? I think this price is top 1 % of whole Malaysia in his age.
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yeah most 28 still earning 4k
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yeah most 28 still earning 4k
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depends on your field/education background too right? but still i would say its alittle bit not enough....
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Job Title : Sr Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : BAU task, in-house project engineer
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 1 and 3 months
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 10 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : diploma with pro certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM19k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4~ mths (for 2021 performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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Paynet. LOL
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 23 2022, 09:45 AM)
Job Title : Head of Community
Job Desciption :

- Set up and implement Community Strategy and Operation as well as team management and mentorship towards corporate objectives and growth
- Guide and develop community content calendar and planning with the team
- Expansion and liaison of partnerships and cooperative initiatives.
- Regular reporting to the wider organization on current community trends, sentiment, and channel
performance; use data to inform recommendations for ongoing community outreach initiatives, messaging, promotions, and operations.

Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6 months & 2 month & 1 month
Company : Global
Industry : 2 Fintech - Blockchain , 1 Consulting Firm
Tenure : Contract basis / Contractor
Employment Level : Head / Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : STPM / Pre-U
Location : Remote
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 72+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :
1st Company:
USD80k/annum

2nd Company:
USD60k/annum

3rd Company:
Taking equity, no fixed salary

Total: USD140k/annum

Contractual Bonus (months):
1st company: 20% token release: worth $50k for now. Subsequently monthly unlock for 60 months: worth $200k for now

2nd company: $5k stable coin, $5k token if hit the milestone 
mths

3rd company: no bonuses, once a project goes live will take the equity.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: remote
Annual Leaves: unlimited PTO
Flexi Working Hours : yes, just get the work done and hit the metric

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Not available
Transport Benefits : not available
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : not available
Other Benefits : not available

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Consider high paid
Growth prospects : Yes, community are one of most important for any company or project in blockchain industry, thus the sky is the limit

Where I will go from here : founder or co-founder for Fintech project
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Wow this is very interesting... did you come in from a non-technical background?

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Wow this is very interesting... did you come in from a non-technical background?
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Yeap, non technical
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post May 5 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ May 1 2022, 12:12 PM)
depends on your field/education background too right? but still i would say its alittle bit not enough....
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most are degree holders still at 4kxx
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Yeap, non technical
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Wow that's amazing. Mind telling us how you first broke into the field?
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Wow that's amazing. Mind telling us how you first broke into the field?
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Take the risk and jump in with a faith
That’s what I did 5 years ago, when most people skeptical about crypto and shit talk about crypto

I guess it bore result and fruit for me ,if by income as indicator for success compare most Malaysian .. usd140k/annum as fixed salary excluding bonus

With bonus will get usd200k/annum

I have 3 team that report to me now

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Take the risk and jump in with a faith
That’s what I did 5 years ago, when most people skeptical about crypto and shit talk about crypto

I guess it bore result and fruit for me ,if by income as indicator for success compare most Malaysian .. usd140k/annum as fixed salary excluding bonus

With bonus will get usd200k/annum

I have 3 team that report to me now
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are u based at Malaysia or US/oversea?
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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 6 2022, 11:43 PM)
are u based at Malaysia or US/oversea?
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Malaysia

I got paid in crypto 😎

I paid my taxes myself as I billed the project as consultant
freechuan
post May 7 2022, 04:14 PM

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Job Title : QS (Contract Executive)
Job Desciption : Post Contract
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 1 years 3 months
Company : Local Main Contractor Company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Contract Basis
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in QS
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 6 days full day (8am-5pm)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4,750 + Allowance RM300
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Where I will go from here : I would like to change my job field but I still lack of idea what can I work other than QS job.
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post May 7 2022, 09:14 PM

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Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Description : Product design in mfg
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 3
Company : Local-like MNC
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7400
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Partial
Work From Home Availability: On exceptional case
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : Free birthday cake & voucher
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, optical (self & dependent) totaling RM2000
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : TBA
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know
Growth prospects : Unknown, hope to have more involvement in product development locally
Where I will go from here : TBA

This post has been edited by hlyh1230: May 14 2022, 05:23 PM
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post May 9 2022, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ May 7 2022, 03:21 AM)
Malaysia

I got paid in crypto 😎

I paid my taxes myself as I billed the project as consultant
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Hey Teddy, can I ask you some questions?

How to get a job like yours? Not your current position, the first position you got when you broke into the crypto industry.

And I'm assuming that your current team is international? In a role like this, how important is your English proficiency?
Like do you have to talk to the team frequently and if having an accent would prevent someone from getting promoted?

And great job by the way. You're doing really well.
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post May 10 2022, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(iammyself @ May 9 2022, 10:14 PM)
Hey Teddy, can I ask you some questions?

How to get a job like yours? Not your current position, the first position you got when you broke into the crypto industry.

And I'm assuming that your current team is international? In a role like this, how important is your English proficiency?
Like do you have to talk to the team frequently and if having an accent would prevent someone from getting promoted?

And great job by the way. You're doing really well.
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For current blockchain, web3 and NFT, you can easily broke into this industry by simply active on Twitter, Reddit, and Discord

Join many project, learn about and active in their community, by helping and share knowledge. You will get notice of the team member and may get invite to be part of team

If you have technical knowledge, build your own project or task on github, share with project that you want to be part of them , either to learn or get paid doing something for them

Communication is the key. Unless you are a technical person, and focus on tech, then accent doesn’t matter.

But for front facing or management, you need to be good at communication I.e clear in delivering the key point and message, guide and mentor the team

Accent doesn’t matter tbh, just need to be clear in communication

My English has weird accent but I can communicate well haha

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post May 10 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 23 2022, 09:45 AM)
Job Title : Head of Community
Job Desciption :

- Set up and implement Community Strategy and Operation as well as team management and mentorship towards corporate objectives and growth
- Guide and develop community content calendar and planning with the team
- Expansion and liaison of partnerships and cooperative initiatives.
- Regular reporting to the wider organization on current community trends, sentiment, and channel
performance; use data to inform recommendations for ongoing community outreach initiatives, messaging, promotions, and operations.

Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6 months & 2 month & 1 month
Company : Global
Industry : 2 Fintech - Blockchain , 1 Consulting Firm
Tenure : Contract basis / Contractor
Employment Level : Head / Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : STPM / Pre-U
Location : Remote
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 72+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :
1st Company:
USD80k/annum

2nd Company:
USD60k/annum

3rd Company:
Taking equity, no fixed salary

Total: USD140k/annum

Contractual Bonus (months):
1st company: 20% token release: worth $50k for now. Subsequently monthly unlock for 60 months: worth $200k for now

2nd company: $5k stable coin, $5k token if hit the milestone 
mths

3rd company: no bonuses, once a project goes live will take the equity.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: remote
Annual Leaves: unlimited PTO
Flexi Working Hours : yes, just get the work done and hit the metric

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Not available
Transport Benefits : not available
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : not available
Other Benefits : not available

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Consider high paid
Growth prospects : Yes, community are one of most important for any company or project in blockchain industry, thus the sky is the limit

Where I will go from here : founder or co-founder for Fintech project
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Wow, this really inspiring! thumbup.gif

I'm from a non-tech background as well and have considered entering the industry, thing is I have no idea where to start.

Keep it up!



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post May 10 2022, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(hlyh1230 @ May 7 2022, 09:14 PM)
Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Description : Product design in mfg
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 3
Company : Local-like MNC
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7400
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Partial
Work From Home Availability: On exceptional case
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : Free birthday cake & voucher
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, optical (self & dependent)  totaling RM2000
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : TBA
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know
Growth prospects : Unknown, hope to have more involvement in product development locally
Where I will go from here : TBA
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u have 11 yrs of working experience (3+8), and now u are 31 yrs old, mean u finished ur degree at age of 20? jz curious.

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post May 11 2022, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ May 10 2022, 01:23 PM)
For current blockchain, web3 and NFT, you can easily broke into this industry by simply active on Twitter, Reddit, and Discord

Join many project, learn about and active in their community, by helping and share knowledge. You will get notice of the team member and may get invite to be part of team

If you have technical knowledge, build your own project or task on github, share with project that you want to be part of them , either to learn or get paid doing something for them

Communication is the key. Unless you are a technical person, and focus on tech, then accent doesn’t matter.

But for front facing or management, you need to be good at communication I.e clear in delivering the key point and message, guide and mentor the team

Accent doesn’t matter tbh, just need to be clear in communication

My English has weird accent but I can communicate well haha
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Ted, huge thanks for your reply. I really appreciate your generosity in sharing helpful information like this.
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post May 12 2022, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Oct 8 2020, 04:52 PM)
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 3 years 3 months
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Junior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM4300
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup
=============== PROMOTION IN APRIL 2021 ===========================

Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 4 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy



====================== ADJUSTMENT IN THE END OF 2021 =======================


Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 4 years ++
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy


===================== UPDATE MAY 2022 : FIRST COMPANY JUMP ==================================


Job Title : Firmware Engineer
Job Description : FPGA firmware development and debug
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : MNC
Industry: FPGA
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior? I am not sure
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years 8 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7,650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Annual bonus + Quarter bonus

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim USD50 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM800 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy, stock options, many more I am not clear yet, still new here.


I have been targeting to have RM10k before age of 30, but seems like not possible for me now.
Time to set new target of RM15k before age of 35.

How do you guys think of my career path? Should I consider myself to go KL for higher salary? ( No Singapore jobs please I don't like SG )
HellRyder92
post May 12 2022, 09:19 PM

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Joined: Feb 2022
Job Title : Senior Software Developer
Job Desciption : .NET Developer
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 years 8 months
Company : Local
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 6 years 6 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : WFH/KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 9212
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 - 6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Full WFH since start, unless have specific orders to go office
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Group insurance, dental, optical, self, dependents
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Yes, RM 1000 per annum
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average?
Growth prospects : Good room for growth, need to be active and deliver your work.
Where I will go from here : Still want to maintain as a developer.


About to jump ship, as I have been interviewing for other companies.
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post May 12 2022, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 12 2022, 09:01 PM)
=============== PROMOTION IN APRIL 2021 ===========================

Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 4 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
====================== ADJUSTMENT IN THE END OF 2021 =======================
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 4 years ++
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
===================== UPDATE MAY 2022 : FIRST COMPANY JUMP ==================================
Job Title : Firmware Engineer
Job Description : FPGA firmware development and debug
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : MNC
Industry: FPGA
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior? I am not sure
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years 8 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7,650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Annual bonus + Quarter bonus

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim USD50 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM800 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy, stock options, many more I am not clear yet, still new here.
I have been targeting to have RM10k before age of 30, but seems like not possible for me now.
Time to set new target of RM15k before age of 35.

How do you guys think of my career path? Should I consider myself to go KL for higher salary? ( No Singapore jobs please I don't like SG )
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Career wise, I think its good profile. Since you stayed at least for 4 years++ in the first company before you jumped, and even got several increments. No need to go KL, there are companies that have Full WFH policy. You just need to find it.

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post May 12 2022, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 12 2022, 09:01 PM)
=============== PROMOTION IN APRIL 2021 ===========================

Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 4 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
====================== ADJUSTMENT IN THE END OF 2021 =======================
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 4 years ++
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
===================== UPDATE MAY 2022 : FIRST COMPANY JUMP ==================================
Job Title : Firmware Engineer
Job Description : FPGA firmware development and debug
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : MNC
Industry: FPGA
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior? I am not sure
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years 8 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7,650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Annual bonus + Quarter bonus

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim USD50 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM800 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy, stock options, many more I am not clear yet, still new here.
I have been targeting to have RM10k before age of 30, but seems like not possible for me now.
Time to set new target of RM15k before age of 35.

How do you guys think of my career path? Should I consider myself to go KL for higher salary? ( No Singapore jobs please I don't like SG )
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I had the same goal to hit 10k by 30 and did not achieve it =/ then I set the same goal as you (15k by 35), now I'm 34 and I'm happy to say that I have achieved my personal goal biggrin.gif . My path was Software Engineer > Software Development Team Leader > Software Architect. FYI I stayed and promoted from junior > senior > team leader > sw architect in the same company that I worked with for 7 years then made a jump with big increment. In total I have 9 years of working experience, entering my 10th in later half of 2022 =). So I think your goal is definitely achievable, all the best and good luck!
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post May 12 2022, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(ScorpiusBtz @ May 12 2022, 10:51 PM)
I had the same goal to hit 10k by 30 and did not achieve it =/ then I set the same goal as you (15k by 35), now I'm 34 and I'm happy to say that I have achieved my personal goal  biggrin.gif . My path was Software Engineer > Software Development Team Leader > Software Architect. FYI I stayed and promoted from junior > senior > team leader > sw architect in the same company that I worked with for 7 years then made a jump with big increment. In total I have 9 years of working experience, entering my 10th in later half of 2022 =). So I think your goal is definitely achievable, all the best and good luck!
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Kinda sad that the one true way to meet salary goals is to jump ship. It comes with a risk and who knows if the company you jump to will be a good fit. Seldom there are cases where loyal and high performing employees achieve their salary goals.
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post May 13 2022, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ May 12 2022, 11:54 PM)
Kinda sad that the one true way to meet salary goals is to jump ship. It comes with a risk and who knows if the company you jump to will be a good fit. Seldom there are cases where loyal and high performing employees achieve their salary goals.
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I agree! I'm sure there are company that can pay loyal employee very very well along side with their growth, but it would be really rare. I made a jump after knowing that new comers with lesser experience and responsibilities are getting higher salary closing to what I was earning. Then I felt that it is time to seek for a better opportunity elsewhere =/
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post May 13 2022, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ May 12 2022, 11:54 PM)
Kinda sad that the one true way to meet salary goals is to jump ship. It comes with a risk and who knows if the company you jump to will be a good fit. Seldom there are cases where loyal and high performing employees achieve their salary goals.
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Not sad at all. You open yourself up to more perspective whenever you jump ship. There's too much bullshit that surrounds corporate management, it'd be stupid of one to not jump at least once in their life. smile.gif
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post May 13 2022, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 12 2022, 09:01 PM)
=============== PROMOTION IN APRIL 2021 ===========================

Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 4 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
====================== ADJUSTMENT IN THE END OF 2021 =======================
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 4 years ++
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
===================== UPDATE MAY 2022 : FIRST COMPANY JUMP ==================================
Job Title : Firmware Engineer
Job Description : FPGA firmware development and debug
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : MNC
Industry: FPGA
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior? I am not sure
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years 8 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7,650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Annual bonus + Quarter bonus

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim USD50 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM800 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy, stock options, many more I am not clear yet, still new here.
I have been targeting to have RM10k before age of 30, but seems like not possible for me now.
Time to set new target of RM15k before age of 35.

How do you guys think of my career path? Should I consider myself to go KL for higher salary? ( No Singapore jobs please I don't like SG )
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Payout look nice already...
i have same target like you...
next year 30yo, almost reach 10k yet not 10k
lets together target Rm15k before reach 35yo

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post May 14 2022, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 10 2022, 05:45 PM)
u have 11 yrs of working experience (3+8), and now u are 31 yrs old, mean u finished ur degree at age of 20? jz curious.
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oops it's typo, total years is 5 years, forgot to exclude my current co working years
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post May 17 2022, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bossku_Johor @ Apr 20 2022, 11:14 AM)
Life-changing? not exactly. I took it to get better job prospects, but the salary in MYR...cannot la........I decided to move to Spore when SGD converted is better....may look like a lot...
but frankly ....it's just nice...

The double masters program was a credit transfer program from UTM. M,Sc and MBA

It's good to have a masters in the long run when you want to go up the corporate ladder...and move into management...
a masters will be a stepping stone for you.

If you have the time and resources , then go for it....
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Just curious. Double Master with only $7k, is the considered underpaid in Singapore?
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post May 17 2022, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ May 17 2022, 08:21 AM)
Just curious. Double Master with only $7k, is the considered underpaid in Singapore?
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Well, in Spore yes, my industry, this is the standard plus-minus... Plus when you are a foreigner here, you cannot expect to be paid at the same level as locals.
But since after conversion to MYR it looks good so I dont mind.
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 23 2022, 09:45 AM)
Job Title : Head of Community
Job Desciption :

- Set up and implement Community Strategy and Operation as well as team management and mentorship towards corporate objectives and growth
- Guide and develop community content calendar and planning with the team
- Expansion and liaison of partnerships and cooperative initiatives.
- Regular reporting to the wider organization on current community trends, sentiment, and channel
performance; use data to inform recommendations for ongoing community outreach initiatives, messaging, promotions, and operations.

Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6 months & 2 month & 1 month
Company : Global
Industry : 2 Fintech - Blockchain , 1 Consulting Firm
Tenure : Contract basis / Contractor
Employment Level : Head / Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : STPM / Pre-U
Location : Remote
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 72+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :
1st Company:
USD80k/annum

2nd Company:
USD60k/annum

3rd Company:
Taking equity, no fixed salary

Total: USD140k/annum

Contractual Bonus (months):
1st company: 20% token release: worth $50k for now. Subsequently monthly unlock for 60 months: worth $200k for now

2nd company: $5k stable coin, $5k token if hit the milestone 
mths

3rd company: no bonuses, once a project goes live will take the equity.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: remote
Annual Leaves: unlimited PTO
Flexi Working Hours : yes, just get the work done and hit the metric

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Not available
Transport Benefits : not available
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : not available
Other Benefits : not available

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Consider high paid
Growth prospects : Yes, community are one of most important for any company or project in blockchain industry, thus the sky is the limit

Where I will go from here : founder or co-founder for Fintech project
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Super awesome man. I am currently learning blockchain development, specifically ethereum. I aim to be a solidity developer but open to the other area as well (any EVM compatible blockchain). But I wonder how can you work with 3 companies at the same time? Is this a permanent position?
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post May 26 2022, 03:47 PM

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Job Title : IT Project Manager
Job Description : Responsible to lead a team to build mobile app for client (agency)
Age :33
Years spent in company : almost 2 years
Industry : Tech
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 5800
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QUOTE(Megatronika @ May 26 2022, 04:13 PM)
Super awesome man. I am currently learning blockchain development, specifically ethereum. I aim to be a solidity developer but open to the other area as well (any EVM compatible blockchain). But I wonder how can you work with 3 companies at the same time? Is this a permanent position?
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Contractual basis, not permanent


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post May 30 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(mazai5100 @ May 16 2022, 10:50 PM)
Post format

Job Title : Sr. Cloud Developer/Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop, automated and maintain cloud infra. I am a certified developer and solutions architect professional (Biggest public cloud)
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 0 (Joining this month)
Company : Major entertainment company (Sdn Bhd)
Industry : Entertainment
Tenure : 0
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 5 🙂
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Klang Valley
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM12k
Contractual Bonus (months): n/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : n/a

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Flexi
Annual Leaves: 20
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Family and dependents
Transport Benefits : n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Yes
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) - My company ticks a lot of my personal checkboxes esp in terms of family related benefits
Current salary against peers in industry - Dont know, probably at this level underpaid, but for my age is a good pay
Growth prospects - Plan to take up individual contributor role or technical program related roles within the next 5 years
Where I will go from here - Not planning to jump soon since its really difficult to find company with good family benefits
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post Jun 1 2022, 05:51 PM

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Job Title : Team Lead
Job Description : Lead work, 70% coding & 20% manage dev team & 10% manage client
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 2
Company : SME
Industry : Internet
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Lead
What I know: front-end, backend, system design & algorithms
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : WFH
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM15,500
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 months ++
Annual Leaves: 15
Working Hours : Standard

Benefits (where relevant): WFH

Usually I just surf lowyat garage sales as anonymous, decided to open an account here to share my career experience till I read this, hope will help someone with medium-low (diploma to high school) qualification, since nowadays master, degree or diploma+ is normal. Also please don't expect my reply because I not really an online socialise person and do have family to busy with.

Most of my life friends know my salary range, they always question and say you are genius, is so rare that someone can earn this range at your age especially you just diploma holder.
But the truth is, I don't think I'm that good, I've met very few people who do better than me, about twice or more than my salary range or have a successful startup.

Small advice & facts:
1. IT industry is lucky, average salary have soared in recent years due to market need.
2. Cert is just an entry ticket, of course I would like to continue further study (to get better privilege entry ticket) if able to afford a that time, important is to keep learning no matter in what situation, invest time in good book.
3. Seek for better opportunity is good, but don't just measure it in money. My ratio (money:time 70:30), there an offer around 20k++ years ago, but decide not to go since the extra few thousand after tax doesn't really can change much on current life style & cant WFH.
4. Stay hungry stay foolish, in case you get lay off you won't be so worried for next job
5. Labour is cheap, please study hard



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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ May 12 2022, 09:01 PM)
=============== PROMOTION IN APRIL 2021 ===========================

Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 4 years +
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
====================== ADJUSTMENT IN THE END OF 2021 =======================
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Develop embedded system of frequency radio, working mainly on Bluetooth implementation and applications now. Dealing with every stake holder in the project.
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 4 years ++
Company : MNC
Industry : Frequency Radio
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Senior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : First Company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM5,900
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths + -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim RM90 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM600 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy
===================== UPDATE MAY 2022 : FIRST COMPANY JUMP ==================================
Job Title : Firmware Engineer
Job Description : FPGA firmware development and debug
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : MNC
Industry: FPGA
Tenure: Permanent
Employment Level : Senior? I am not sure
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years 8 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7,650
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Annual bonus + Quarter bonus

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Internet claim USD50 per month
Flexi Working Hours : yes
Other Benefits : RM800 for glasses, dentistry and medical checkup, car loan interest subsidy, stock options, many more I am not clear yet, still new here.
I have been targeting to have RM10k before age of 30, but seems like not possible for me now.
Time to set new target of RM15k before age of 35.

How do you guys think of my career path? Should I consider myself to go KL for higher salary? ( No Singapore jobs please I don't like SG )
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post Jun 2 2022, 02:22 PM

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My previous job from Q4 2016 to Q1 2019

QUOTE
Job Title : Event & Marketing
Job Desciption : Mostly office-bound work. Design, seek approval, deal with multiple departments like legal, finance, etc.
Years spent in company : 1 Year+
Age : 30
Industry : Retail
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 3 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree in Psychology / Mass Comm
salary : Close to RM4000 with 1 month bonus
Location: Selangor


Q1 2019 - Q1 2021
QUOTE
Job Title : Event and Meetings
Job Desciption : Mostly office bound work. If there are events then might need to go out of office. Local or overseas
Years spent in company : Just started
Age : 32
Industry : MLM Company
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree in Psychology / Mass Comm
salary : Close to RM5000 in 2019, RM5400 in 2020, RM5700+ in 2021
Location: Selangor
Now
QUOTE
Job Title : Training and Meeting
Job Desciption : Mostly office bound work. If there are events then might need to go out of office. Local or overseas
Years spent in company : 3 years
Age : 35
Industry : MLM Company
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining : 7 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree in Psychology / Mass Comm
Salary : RM6000 above
Location: Selangor
Worked in same company for 3 years. During MCO got bonus and increment but there's no promotion. I guess that's the downside of working in MNC company where they have sets of guidelines to follow in order to promote staff. I guess is time to move on? Trying to get 10k by 40 YO? tongue.gif
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post Jun 2 2022, 05:48 PM

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1 year on, had an excellent year in the semiconductor industry and ended up making just under 150k in CY21 according to e-BE filing

My existing company low balled me at around 6K SGD OTE with no CPF reimbursement when I requested to be moved over to SG head office, so I applied elsewhere and was relocated at a better than expected package while pivoting into the enterprise SaaS industry.

I did not reveal my existing salary package in MYR and used the advertised range in MyCareersFuture to negotiate my expected compensation. I was fortunate that my bosses are all based in the Anglosphere and wanted me to have a pay commensurate with US/EMEA team members, hence no lowballing which is typical from SG employers towards MY employees.

Job Title : Senior Technical Sales Engineer
Job Desciption : Selling enterprise software within APAC
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0 years 2 months
Company : MNC
Industry : Software
Tenure : Permanent, no probation
Employment Level : Individual Contributor (Senior)
Experience before joining (years) : 5 in HW test, R&D, sales
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MEng in EE, UK Russell Group grad
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Commission + Fixed Allowance : SGD 11020 (OTE) = 8176 + 2044 + 800
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 months AWS


Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Wfh, occasional visits to customer.
Work From Home Availability: Fully wfh
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Life insurance, medical coverage
Transport Benefits : Car allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Company phone + line
Other Benefits : One off relocation bonus of 4000 SGD

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Sole sales engineer in SG with counterparts within APAC. Excellent room for growth with regular meetings with VPs, director levels at major customers
Where I will go from here :To apply for SG PR, and reconsider options after 2-3 years.
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post Jun 3 2022, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(lifeisfantastic @ Jun 1 2022, 05:51 PM)
Job Title : Team Lead
Job Description : Lead work, 70% coding & 20% manage dev team & 10% manage client
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 2
Company : SME
Industry : Internet
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Lead
What I know: front-end, backend, system design & algorithms
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : WFH
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM15,500
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 months ++
Annual Leaves: 15
Working Hours : Standard

Benefits (where relevant): WFH

Usually I just surf lowyat garage sales as anonymous, decided to open an account here to share my career experience till I read this, hope will help someone with medium-low (diploma to high school) qualification, since nowadays master, degree or diploma+ is normal. Also please don't expect my reply because I not really an online socialise person and do have family to busy with.

Most of my life friends know my salary range, they always question and say you are genius, is so rare that someone can earn this range at your age especially you just diploma holder.
But the truth is, I don't think I'm that good, I've met very few people who do better than me, about twice or more than my salary range or have a successful startup.

Small advice & facts:
1. IT industry is lucky, average salary have soared in recent years due to market need.
2. Cert is just an entry ticket, of course I would like to continue further study (to get better privilege entry ticket) if able to afford a that time, important is to keep learning no matter in what situation, invest time in good book.
3. Seek for better opportunity is good, but don't just measure it in money. My ratio (money:time 70:30), there an offer around 20k++ years ago, but decide not to go since the extra few thousand after tax doesn't really can change much on current life style & cant WFH.
4. Stay hungry stay foolish, in case you get lay off you won't be so worried for next job
5. Labour is cheap, please study hard
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have to agree on cert is just an entry ticket. I'm one of the lucky one as i don't do quite well in uni time but my parents are proud of me now biggrin.gif
All the best bro ! thumbup.gif
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post Jun 6 2022, 11:35 PM

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Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Product design, 3D design, Parts Approval, Product & Parts Testing (IEC ISO Standard) and Project Management.
Age : 24 ( 25 soon)
Years spent in company :11 months
Company : SME
Industry : Manucturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering with Honours
Location : Shah Alam
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 51.25

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 3400
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : n/a

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Cant wfh
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 10 days (2022 only got 4 days leave becuz i joined july)
Flexi Working Hours : Yes / No / Partial? No

Benefits (where relevant) : no
Health Benefits : Sick Leave MC 14 days
Transport Benefits : No
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :No
Other Benefits :n/a

I have no idea if i am consider average or slightly lucky as this is just my first job. Can advise me if i am currently doing good? xD

This post has been edited by dtkiller97: Jun 7 2022, 08:18 PM
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post Jun 7 2022, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(dtkiller97 @ Jun 6 2022, 11:35 PM)
Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Product design, 3D design, Parts Approval, Product & Parts Testing (IEC ISO Standard) and Project Management
Age : 24 ( 25 soon)
Years spent in company :11 months
Company : SME
Industry : Manucturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering with Honours
Location : Shah Alam
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 51.25

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 3400
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : n/a

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: N/a
Annual Leaves: 7 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes / No / Partial? No

Benefits (where relevant) : n/a
Health Benefits : mc 14 days
Transport Benefits :n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :n/a
Other Benefits :n/a

I have no idea if i am consider average or slightly lucky as this is just my first job. Can advise me if i am currently doing good? xD
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How come AL only 7 days? I thought standard government law is 12 days?
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post Jun 7 2022, 10:28 AM

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Job Title : System Engineer
Job Description : Hardware installation and Software configuration
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 7
Company : GLC
Industry : IT-O&G
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 + troubleshooting time

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5000
Contractual Bonus (months): mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : depend on performance. maybe at least 3 mths

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Employee and dependent
Transport Benefits : None
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 120
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Other Benefits : Dental + optical (included in benefit), (travel allowance and offshore allowance)- when applicable

*now already move to other company with increment 80%

This post has been edited by ahms89: Jun 7 2022, 03:51 PM
aakash22
post Jun 7 2022, 10:39 AM

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ob Title : Project / Bid Manager
Job Desciption : Supporting sales and bid team, Managing small service projects
Age : 38
Years spent in company :11 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Railway
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA, Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering with Honours
Location : PJ
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45-50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM9596
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 months
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 month minimum

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Refer below
Work From Home Availability: Yes, to be applied prior
Annual Leaves: 30 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : Group insurance including dependents
Health Benefits : MC 14 days
Transport Benefits :n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :RM1200 per year
Other Benefits :RM4300 yearly flexi benefits subject to tax

Not sure if i'm underpaid as currently we are in a niche industry.
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post Jun 7 2022, 05:31 PM

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Job Title : Interactive designer
Job Description : Digital design, UI/UX design, design prototyping
Age : 25
Years spent in company :5 months
Company : Digital design agency, Web and app dev
Industry : Tech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background :Arts BA Hons Digital Design
Location : Damansara City
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50


Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 2800
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : subject to performance

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: hybrid
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : health insurance
Health Benefits : mc 14 days
Transport Benefits :n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Company Macbook Pro
Other Benefits :n/a
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post Jun 7 2022, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 7 2022, 05:31 PM)
Job Title : Interactive designer
Job Description : Digital design, UI/UX design, design prototyping
Age : 25
Years spent in company :5 months
Company : Digital design agency, Web and app dev
Industry : Tech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background :Arts BA Hons Digital Design
Location : Damansara City
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 2800
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : subject to performance

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: hybrid
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : health insurance
Health Benefits : mc 14 days
Transport Benefits :n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Company Macbook Pro
Other Benefits :n/a
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post Jun 7 2022, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jun 7 2022, 09:44 AM)
How come AL only 7 days? I thought standard government law is 12 days?
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Just checked back my offer letter, only 10 days (less than 2 years). Will increase after 2 years.
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post Jun 8 2022, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(ahms89 @ Jun 7 2022, 10:28 AM)
Job Title : System Engineer
Job Description : Hardware installation and Software configuration
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 7
Company : GLC
Industry : IT-O&G
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 + troubleshooting time

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5000
Contractual Bonus (months): mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : depend on performance. maybe at least 3 mths

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Employee and dependent
Transport Benefits : None
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 120
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Other Benefits : Dental + optical (included in benefit), (travel allowance and offshore allowance)- when applicable

*now already move to other company with increment 80%
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80% increment??? Did you edit your payslips when applying for new job?
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post Jun 8 2022, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(aakash22 @ Jun 7 2022, 10:39 AM)
ob Title : Project / Bid Manager
Job Desciption : Supporting sales and bid team, Managing small service projects
Age : 38
Years spent in company :11 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Railway
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA, Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering with Honours
Location : PJ
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45-50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM9596
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 months
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 month minimum

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Refer below
Work From Home Availability: Yes, to be applied prior
Annual Leaves: 30 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : Group insurance including dependents
Health Benefits : MC 14 days
Transport Benefits :n/a
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :RM1200 per year
Other Benefits :RM4300 yearly flexi benefits subject to tax

Not sure if i'm underpaid as currently we are in a niche industry.
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Pay seems low but 30 days AL?

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post Jun 8 2022, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(ahjummma @ Jun 8 2022, 08:32 AM)
Pay seems low but 30 days AL?
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yup total 30days AL. Any idea how much does a bid manager takes home?
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post Jun 8 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(canjeth @ Jun 8 2022, 12:35 AM)
80% increment??? Did you edit your payslips when applying for new job?
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When you were being underpaid for ages and the new company is at least half decent in giving appropriate compensations, this is typical outcome. Don't have to do stupid thing like editing payslip which later can come up to bite your own ass

My case almost the same although the need to relocate made it much easier to jump that much in term of basic salary
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Pay seems low but 30 days AL?
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I think our role is similar but different industry and I only have degree. My basic is 76% higher. I don't have contractual bonus or allowances. Just performance bonus which is usually 3 months minimum. AL is only 21 days. Been with my current company for 6 years.
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thanks bro...seems like i'm way underpaid, time to nego!
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Annual increment is average 3-5% for most employees.
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Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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I know a dotnet software developer who has been working in the field for > 10 years and he get around rm6-7k as a project leader. And he is nearly 40 yo. Your salary is very high considering you are below 30yo only.


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I know a dotnet software developer who has been working in the field for > 10 years and he get around rm6-7k as a project leader. And he is nearly 40 yo. Your salary is very high considering you are below 30yo only.
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I don't like to say this but why is age related to pay? That's the most common way of HR lowballing talents.
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I don't like to say this but why is age related to pay? That's the most common way of HR lowballing talents.
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Well, i guess, when your age is older, basically meant you have more experiences, when you have more experienced higher chance meaning you know more things, thus you might get higher salary. Many HR might take this as a factor to gauge what they should pay the candidate besides those certificates, past works, etc. I think that makes sense.

My case here was talking about coders, i think a coder who just worked for 1-2 years or totally no work experiences can get very high salary too, just show the company / HR the works they have done while in school / free time, show the company / HR how much knowledges they have and why they are qualified for high paid. Last time i played a game called "Runescape", the creator of the game, before he graduated already had many companies offering him super high paid hoping he could join their companies.

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Hi tech consultant seniors,

May I know what’s the most suitable pay range for Test Manager in consulting firm (MNC)? Their client is global bank. I want to make sure I’m not getting lowballed anymore.

I have 6 years of experience in software QA testing including testing management and my qualification is Degree in IT and MBA.

Really appreciate your advice 🙏🏻
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HR aren't your best friend. They are just some bloodsucker lowballing.
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QUOTE(scarlet94 @ Jun 22 2022, 08:28 AM)
Hi tech consultant seniors,

May I know what’s the most suitable pay range for Test Manager in consulting firm (MNC)? Their client is global bank. I want to make sure I’m not getting lowballed anymore.

I have 6 years of experience in software QA testing including testing management and my qualification is Degree in IT and MBA.

Really appreciate your advice 🙏🏻
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I would recommend that you comb through the data which @MalaysianPayGap shared

Here is the data dashboard
https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting...ge/p_y00cuqsxsc
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Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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Good for you my friend! I also 2021 graduated from Taruc Setapak as Mechanical Engineering Degree student. Now work in Subang Bestari as kuli. Maybe i can take your path as reference. xD
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Good for you my friend! I also 2021 graduated from Taruc Setapak as Mechanical Engineering Degree student. Now work in Subang Bestari as kuli. Maybe i can take your path as reference. xD
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Don't be too upset if you can't reach his path & salary. Coming from the software path, I'm confident to say 90% software graduates won't reach that by 30.
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Good for you my friend! I also 2021 graduated from Taruc Setapak as Mechanical Engineering Degree student. Now work in Subang Bestari as kuli. Maybe i can take your path as reference. xD
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Hello there! Congrats on your graduation, I suppose Dr Seow may have added you and your coursemates to our FB Group for RME/RMT/RMH/REE/RTE graduates. I still see active job postings in that FB group, but the pay vs workload for most engineers really demotivating for many juniors, unless they are in Oil&Gas or semicon industry.

Everyone has different path, you will eventually find and pave the best one for yourself.
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Hello there! Congrats on your graduation, I suppose Dr Seow may have added you and your coursemates to our FB Group for RME/RMT/RMH/REE/RTE graduates. I still see active job postings in that FB group, but the pay vs workload for most engineers really demotivating for many juniors, unless they are in Oil&Gas or semicon industry.

Everyone has different path, you will eventually find and pave the best one for yourself.
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Hi. Thank you for the cheer up senior xD. Ya Dr. Seow did constantly post new jobs in the fb group and like what you mentioned the pay vs workload really seems to be imbalance. So, I Plan to move to new field in next year. Still thinking if i should stay in R&D related to mechanical parts or should change to IT field. I think it is harder to find SME that help in engineering growth path. But since my result was someway around CGPA 2.96++. I don have that confident to apply in MNC company. :/ I got consider moving to Penang and start in semicon industry specially like Vitrox.
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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Jun 18 2022, 02:59 PM)
Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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3.8k to 6k for a promotion. that's incredibly rare, the usual rate is usually 20-30%.

and what does it feel like to jump ship every year? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Jun 18 2022, 02:59 PM)
Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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How do you answer interview questions on switching jobs frequency? I get them a lot even though I don't switch as often as you. Can't imagine what kind of creative answers I would have to dig out if in your position.
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Job Description : Technical Manager/Software Engineering Consultant
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 7
Company : MNC
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : 7
Employment Level : Associate Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Engineering related diploma.
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours but really depends on the project, it could be less, it could be more.

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM10,625
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : WFH / Hybrid. Usually only need to go to the office for in-person client meetings etc.
Work From Home Availability: 20 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical + Life Insurance
Transport Benefits : None unless claimable via project budget. (Depends on project)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : RM2400 annual mobile allowance, RM5000 Gadget/Holiday allowance
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : I can see myself getting promoted another 1 or 2 more levels before I feel the growth becomes stagnant.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Good room for growth
Where I will go from here : Project/Technical Delivery Manager or similar role..
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QUOTE(scarlet94 @ Jun 22 2022, 08:28 AM)
Hi tech consultant seniors,

May I know what’s the most suitable pay range for Test Manager in consulting firm (MNC)? Their client is global bank. I want to make sure I’m not getting lowballed anymore.

I have 6 years of experience in software QA testing including testing management and my qualification is Degree in IT and MBA.

Really appreciate your advice 🙏🏻
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Big 4 consulting firm Manager pay bracket is RM8k-RM10k. (Generally quite low compared to other big-name consulting firms.) (I'm not talking about audit roles btw)

It doesn't really matter that their client is a global bank as consulting firms are project-based. Some projects can span 1 month all the way up to >1 year. You'll likely be in more than 1 project if you stay for more than a year.

Unless you're being hired as a staff augmentation/managed service kinda role. Meaning, you are hired by the consulting firm, but you are outsourced to the client until you resign or until the client doesn't need you anymore.

Hope it helps.
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3.8k to 6k for a promotion. that's incredibly rare, the usual rate is usually 20-30%.

and what does it feel like to jump ship every year?  biggrin.gif
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In my humble opinion, we sometimes shall look at the absolute value too rather than just the %, because % doesn't give big number when the principal value is low..
In my case, I see it as a RM 2.2K gained for the promotion, instead of the % I gained. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(canjeth @ Jun 26 2022, 09:24 PM)
How do you answer interview questions on switching jobs frequency? I get them a lot even though I don't switch as often as you. Can't imagine what kind of creative answers I would have to dig out if in your position.
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Frankly speaking, I really do have very solid reasons for every switch after my first company.
I told the hiring manager & HR the honest answer and it's not really about the dollar (I usually don't mention $ in the interview), and they accepted my reason for making the switch I guess, no creative or fancy answers at all.. icon_rolleyes.gif

The thing is, the tech industry has a really high demand for great talents (tech kuli bye.gif ) and the market is somehow flooded with mediocre Software Developer/Engineer wanna-be, I apologise if I offended anyone with this statement, but it is a fact throughout my half a decade work experience in different teams and companies. Hence, some companies do understand that it is a very competitive market.
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In my humble opinion, we sometimes shall look at the absolute value too rather than just the %, because % doesn't give big number when the principal value is low..
In my case, I see it as a RM 2.2K gained for the promotion, instead of the % I gained.  biggrin.gif
Yeah it's good to think that way. I'd an experience where I was changing a role and got about 65% bump simply because that's the market range for the new role and rank.
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Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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mind to tell which employee rank are you in for the rm 16k position?

from my impression, usually >15k are either team lead or at least a senior in tech field, where one is expected to lead some projects

come to my surprise that dotnet still highly sought after now
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mind to tell which employee rank are you in for the rm 16k position?

from my impression, usually >15k are either team lead or at least a senior in tech field, where one is expected to lead some projects

come to my surprise that dotnet still highly sought after now
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Hi there, yes, you are right, it’s a senior role but not a team lead yet.

IMHO, dotnet and Java are still considered highly sought (the amount of job ads on LinkedIn and JobStreet, search by keyword) especially in enterprise-grade app development. These two are usually easier to get higher pay bracket (median) compared to others (Python & JavaScript are in great demand too).

After all, they are just different tools for different purposes. It shouldn’t take much time for a developer to work on and get comfortable with other modern languages as most of their programming knowledge are probably still applicable, except some may take more time to be proficient like Rust, F#, ProLog etc. depending on his/her background. But yea, I think you get my point. Haha.
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Hi there, yes, you are right, it’s a senior role but not a team lead yet.

IMHO, dotnet and Java are still considered highly sought (the amount of job ads on LinkedIn and JobStreet, search by keyword) especially in enterprise-grade app development. These two are usually easier to get higher pay bracket (median) compared to others (Python & JavaScript are in great demand too).

After all, they are just different tools for different purposes. It shouldn’t take much time for a developer to work on and get comfortable with other modern languages as most of their programming knowledge are probably still applicable, except some may take more time to be proficient like Rust, F#, ProLog etc. depending on his/her background. But yea, I think you get my point. Haha.
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wow, a 60% increase in basic salary after 1 year in the previous job? too good to be true especially for a developer.
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wow, a 60% increase in basic salary after 1 year in the previous job? too good to be true especially for a developer.
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It’s actually less than a year in my previous job.
After all, it’s about the right opportunity and the right talent at the right timing.

I do understand some may find it difficult to believe if they haven’t seen one before. My peers (mostly in E&E and mechanical engineering in semi-con) were quite surprise when they found out I change job again and with a decent package. They are having exactly same years of working experience like me (roughly 5.5 years), and making RM50-80K annually on average.

For me, I mostly look at the career opportunities (progress/advancement) in long run at the company when I make my decision, not the monetary part.
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80% increment??? Did you edit your payslips when applying for new job?
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Nope.. basically, i would say we were underpaid. even when i had interview with new company, they were shocked as i was paid that much. Then, they give me increment for 81% to be exact..haha
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anyone knows what is the ballpark figure for Manager M4 rank in HLB?

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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Jul 3 2022, 05:01 PM)
It’s actually less than a year in my previous job.
After all, it’s about the right opportunity and the right talent at the right timing.

I do understand some may find it difficult to believe if they haven’t seen one before. My peers (mostly in E&E and mechanical engineering in semi-con) were quite surprise when they found out I change job again and with a decent package. They are having exactly same years of working experience like me (roughly 5.5 years), and making RM50-80K annually on average.

For me, I mostly look at the career opportunities (progress/advancement) in long run at the company when I make my decision, not the monetary part.
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wise choice, e&e pay is just crap as its heavily depend on export. with export, the salary is tie to the product price. garbage in garbage out, e@e and manufacturing is a sign of failure when our cost of living increase. they can move the factory to cheaper country

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wise choice, e&e pay is just crap as its heavily depend on export. with export, the salary is tie to the product price. garbage in garbage out, e@e and manufacturing is a sign of failure when our cost of living increase. they can move the factory to cheaper country
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You sound exactly like one of my friends in the industry..
And another common struggle they face is, other than some soft skills and electronic knowledge, most of their skillsets are deeply tied to their production line, like the machines etc. It's not something really transferable if they were to change company, hence looking out could be challenging.

One (5Y working experience) of my friends took a pay cut early this year to be a web developer, from a PCB engineer (in a well known Japanese brand). Original pay is still lesser than RM4K per month, the web developer role is RM3.2K or RM3.3K monthly (sorry can't remember). I guess he rather be considered as a fresh grad in developer role than continue his current career.

And yea, you are right, it is really sad. In Malaysia, probably because of many companies are not giving our engineers R&D work..? From what I read in the JD (my graduates FB group), seems to be mostly maintenance & sales work.
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You sound exactly like one of my friends in the industry..
And another common struggle they face is, other than some soft skills and electronic knowledge, most of their skillsets are deeply tied to their production line, like the machines etc. It's not something really transferable if they were to change company, hence looking out could be challenging.

One (5Y working experience) of my friends took a pay cut early this year to be a web developer, from a PCB engineer (in a well known Japanese brand). Original pay is still lesser than RM4K per month, the web developer role is RM3.2K or RM3.3K monthly (sorry can't remember). I guess he rather be considered as a fresh grad in developer role than continue his current career.

And yea, you are right, it is really sad. In Malaysia, probably because of many companies are not giving our engineers R&D work..? From what I read in the JD (my graduates FB group), seems to be mostly maintenance & sales work.
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bcoz our government policy dont favour RnD or technology companies which really want to invest over here(mostly due to direct tie between crony company, and those policy will protect them from competition). a lot choose sg over msia due to those policy and this hence create even worse bad karma effect which prevent us from moving to higher income nation, for example the repair policy for undersea fiber optics.

to make another point is, high tech require good networks. The closer the data center to the main branch of the giga fiber optics, the shorter the network latency. Thank to that policy, now Singapore get the giga network

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Malaysia

I got paid in crypto 😎

I paid my taxes myself as I billed the project as consultant
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Since the crypto market is down, did the companies adjust your salary accordingly? For example, if the company has agreed to pay you 1eth per month. At that time, 1eth=3k USD, but now 1eth=1k USD. So, will the companies pay you 3eth now to compensate for the eth price drop, or are you still getting 1eth?
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Since the crypto market is down, did the companies adjust your salary accordingly? For example, if the company has agreed to pay you 1eth per month. At that time, 1eth=3k USD, but now 1eth=1k USD. So, will the companies pay you 3eth now to compensate for the eth price drop, or are you still getting 1eth?
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I got paid in usdt and usdc

So no worries about market dump


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I got paid in usdt and usdc

So no worries about market dump
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Stablecoins? Scary stuffs
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Yeap, while many skeptical about, I’m happy to embrace it 🫡
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as someone not from IT background, I certainly feel salty about the pays from this industry...
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as someone not from IT background, I certainly feel salty about the pays from this industry...
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so far how frequent you sell it and how many % you will keep for the stable coin
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so far how frequent you sell it and how many % you will keep for the stable coin
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I hold 90% of stablecoin (since usd at 4.12)

10% in cash/fiat

Every month will sell usdt/usdc to fiat for expenses.

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long working hours. if you love 12 hrs of work including weekend. you are most wc to IT.
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Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance. thumbup.gif
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Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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Congratulations! Which audit firm did you join back in 2021?
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Due to P&C Terms, i cant disclose the firms name sweat.gif sweat.gif

I am Currently work with a local home growth firm that involve in Public listed Audit.
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notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
Due to P&C Terms, i cant disclose the firms name sweat.gif  sweat.gif

I am Currently work with a local home growth firm that involve in Public listed Audit.
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It's ok. Did you apply for the license? How was the experience like?
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long working hours. if you love 12 hrs of work including weekend. you are most wc to IT.
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Is this your personal experience?
Feel sorry for you if that's the case. Majority of IT employees have flexibility in regards of their working hours + hybrid working policy. Im barely 8hours per day and only 1day per week in office.

You're at the wrong company if you have to work 12hours and weekend too.time to jump ship bro like seriously 😂
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Is this your personal experience?
Feel sorry for you if that's the case. Majority of IT employees have flexibility in regards of their working hours + hybrid working policy. Im barely 8hours per day and only 1day per week in office.

You're at the wrong company if you have to work 12hours and weekend too.time to jump ship bro like seriously 😂
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once you wfh, the working hour would be super long as bosses will think you are accessable anytime from any timezone. if you were in management position, the workload would be even higher.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 18 2022, 04:06 PM)
Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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Wow I can only imagine how you felt from 2016-2021. Your pay didnt move and instead drop at times but yet you persevered and became a partner... Congrats on the hard work and never giving up attitude mentality.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 18 2022, 04:06 PM)
Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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I see you really love auditing. How is the work life balance ?

I am no auditor myself but my friend is totally stressed out working in audit firm ( especially big4 ). Everyday crying OTW to work, everyday ( including weekend ) work until 2am.

It is really sad that auditor despite being a professional but can be having worst work-life balance job out there, compared to engineer, doctors and lawyers.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 18 2022, 04:06 PM)
Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 18 2022, 04:06 PM)
Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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That's quite a jump from 2021 to 2022. You joined as manager in 2021?

QUOTE(L7E @ Jul 18 2022, 08:07 PM)
Is this your personal experience?
Feel sorry for you if that's the case. Majority of IT employees have flexibility in regards of their working hours + hybrid working policy. Im barely 8hours per day and only 1day per week in office.

You're at the wrong company if you have to work 12hours and weekend too.time to jump ship bro like seriously 😂
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What line are u in? Software developer?


QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Jul 20 2022, 01:24 PM)
I see you really love auditing. How is the work life balance ?

I am no auditor myself but my friend is totally stressed out working in audit firm ( especially big4 ). Everyday crying OTW to work, everyday ( including weekend ) work until 2am.

It is really sad that auditor despite being a professional but can be having worst work-life balance job out there, compared to engineer, doctors and lawyers.
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Your friend girl or guy? Just asking. But seriously, if feel that way everyday, think its better to really consider whether want to keep working in audit or not. Or is it ur friend wants to get the practical experience first?

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Your friend girl or guy? Just asking. But seriously, if feel that way everyday, think its better to really consider whether want to keep working in audit or not. Or is it ur friend wants to get the practical experience first?
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A girl. So it is true that if choosing audit , then there will be no work life balance? Family and enjoyment in life will be ignored for sure? She loves auditing but it just gives her too much of stress and no time to do things she likes. She is thinking to move on to accounting to have a normal life since she already has around 4 years of experience in audit. But it is still a struggle for her since she really loves auditing

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Jul 22 2022, 11:31 PM)
A girl. So it is true that if choosing audit , then there will be no work life balance? Family and enjoyment in life will be ignored for sure? She loves auditing but it just gives her too much of stress and no time to do things she likes. She is thinking to move on to accounting to have a normal life since she already has around 4 years of experience in audit. But it is still a struggle for her since she really loves auditing
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Depends on which firm and which team/department also..got many stories wan, you can search previous LYN threads, there's even a Big 4 thread in this subforum. Why she loves auditing if the culture is like that? She likes the work itself? Or the pay is high?
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Hey guys, would like some advice here please smile.gif

I am job hunting for better job scope and salary. Currently working as a DBA with a very bad startup company. I entered the company experienced but paid fresh grad salary, no WFH or hybrid at all, probation until 6 months and during probation cannot apply AL, if want to AL then pay cut. Work OT every weekend and when chasing deadlines, until late at night + weekends but no OT payment. Boss also like to micromanage, when I ignored his messages and calls during weekends because I was exhausted from working, the next Monday I go to office he will talk to me without looking at my face as if he's mad because I ignored him confused.gif

Honestly I'm trying to change career path to a Data Engineer or something related to ETL, as somehow I really like the process of extracting data from DB or websites and all that stuff but it's REALLY difficult to get a junior/entry level DE job now as every job posts saying they require 5-7 YOE. I accepted my current job offer during Covid because I was scared of being unemployed, before that I was a Data Analyst for an O&G company (contract).

So a few weeks ago a recruiter approached me on LinkedIn for a job opportunity with the same O&G company I worked with before, as a DBA. But it will be a renewable contract job, if there are projects that still need me to work for them, they'll renew my contract. And my payroll, benefits, bonus, etc will be managed by the recruiter's company. So it's an indirect hire. Here's the catch. The salary that they offered me is more than double my current salary, 108% salary increment, hybrid work and better work culture (I've worked there before so I'm familiar with the work culture). I also attended one interview with local bank for Junior DE position but they are VEERYY slow with the hiring process that I have given up already.

So here I am torn between going with the O&G contract job with great salary but staying on the same career path OR continue job hunting for the new career path that I desire.
What is the best course of action here guys? Would really appreciate your 2 cents, I'll try to consider all opinions biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minana1004 @ Jul 25 2022, 11:06 AM)
Hey guys, would like some advice here please  smile.gif

I am job hunting for better job scope and salary. Currently working as a DBA with a very bad startup company. I entered the company experienced but paid fresh grad salary, no WFH or hybrid at all, probation until 6 months and during probation cannot apply AL, if want to AL then pay cut. Work OT every weekend and when chasing deadlines, until late at night + weekends but no OT payment. Boss also like to micromanage, when I ignored his messages and calls during weekends because I was exhausted from working, the next Monday I go to office he will talk to me without looking at my face as if he's mad because I ignored him  confused.gif

Honestly I'm trying to change career path to a Data Engineer or something related to ETL, as somehow I really like the process of extracting data from DB or websites and all that stuff but it's REALLY difficult to get a junior/entry level DE job now as every job posts saying they require 5-7 YOE. I accepted my current job offer during Covid because I was scared of being unemployed, before that I was a Data Analyst for an O&G company (contract).

So a few weeks ago a recruiter approached me on LinkedIn for a job opportunity with the same O&G company I worked with before, as a DBA. But it will be a renewable contract job, if there are projects that still need me to work for them, they'll renew my contract. And my payroll, benefits, bonus, etc will be managed by the recruiter's company. So it's an indirect hire. Here's the catch. The salary that they offered me is more than double my current salary, 108% salary increment, hybrid work and better work culture (I've worked there before so I'm familiar with the work culture). I also attended one interview with local bank for Junior DE position but they are VEERYY slow with the hiring process that I have given up already.

So here I am torn between going with the O&G contract job with great salary but staying on the same career path OR continue job hunting for the new career path that I desire.
What is the best course of action here guys? Would really appreciate your 2 cents, I'll try to consider all opinions  biggrin.gif
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Why not just take up the new offer and continue jobhunting?

At least you don't need to endure long hours, bad culture and getting x2 money at the same time

Unless, you are very sure your next offer is coming very soon

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QUOTE(Minana1004 @ Jul 25 2022, 11:06 AM)
Hey guys, would like some advice here please  smile.gif

I am job hunting for better job scope and salary. Currently working as a DBA with a very bad startup company. I entered the company experienced but paid fresh grad salary, no WFH or hybrid at all, probation until 6 months and during probation cannot apply AL, if want to AL then pay cut. Work OT every weekend and when chasing deadlines, until late at night + weekends but no OT payment. Boss also like to micromanage, when I ignored his messages and calls during weekends because I was exhausted from working, the next Monday I go to office he will talk to me without looking at my face as if he's mad because I ignored him  confused.gif

Honestly I'm trying to change career path to a Data Engineer or something related to ETL, as somehow I really like the process of extracting data from DB or websites and all that stuff but it's REALLY difficult to get a junior/entry level DE job now as every job posts saying they require 5-7 YOE. I accepted my current job offer during Covid because I was scared of being unemployed, before that I was a Data Analyst for an O&G company (contract).

So a few weeks ago a recruiter approached me on LinkedIn for a job opportunity with the same O&G company I worked with before, as a DBA. But it will be a renewable contract job, if there are projects that still need me to work for them, they'll renew my contract. And my payroll, benefits, bonus, etc will be managed by the recruiter's company. So it's an indirect hire. Here's the catch. The salary that they offered me is more than double my current salary, 108% salary increment, hybrid work and better work culture (I've worked there before so I'm familiar with the work culture). I also attended one interview with local bank for Junior DE position but they are VEERYY slow with the hiring process that I have given up already.

So here I am torn between going with the O&G contract job with great salary but staying on the same career path OR continue job hunting for the new career path that I desire.
What is the best course of action here guys? Would really appreciate your 2 cents, I'll try to consider all opinions  biggrin.gif
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I have similar experience like you, that time my ex-employer (an IT vendor company) offer me 50% increase, then I straight away hopped back to my ex-company tongue.gif

But I knew that job scope is not what I really enjoy, so I continue looking for other opportunities slowly (secretly) rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Minana1004 @ Jul 25 2022, 11:06 AM)
Hey guys, would like some advice here please  smile.gif

I am job hunting for better job scope and salary. Currently working as a DBA with a very bad startup company. I entered the company experienced but paid fresh grad salary, no WFH or hybrid at all, probation until 6 months and during probation cannot apply AL, if want to AL then pay cut. Work OT every weekend and when chasing deadlines, until late at night + weekends but no OT payment. Boss also like to micromanage, when I ignored his messages and calls during weekends because I was exhausted from working, the next Monday I go to office he will talk to me without looking at my face as if he's mad because I ignored him  confused.gif

Honestly I'm trying to change career path to a Data Engineer or something related to ETL, as somehow I really like the process of extracting data from DB or websites and all that stuff but it's REALLY difficult to get a junior/entry level DE job now as every job posts saying they require 5-7 YOE. I accepted my current job offer during Covid because I was scared of being unemployed, before that I was a Data Analyst for an O&G company (contract).

So a few weeks ago a recruiter approached me on LinkedIn for a job opportunity with the same O&G company I worked with before, as a DBA. But it will be a renewable contract job, if there are projects that still need me to work for them, they'll renew my contract. And my payroll, benefits, bonus, etc will be managed by the recruiter's company. So it's an indirect hire. Here's the catch. The salary that they offered me is more than double my current salary, 108% salary increment, hybrid work and better work culture (I've worked there before so I'm familiar with the work culture). I also attended one interview with local bank for Junior DE position but they are VEERYY slow with the hiring process that I have given up already.

So here I am torn between going with the O&G contract job with great salary but staying on the same career path OR continue job hunting for the new career path that I desire.
What is the best course of action here guys? Would really appreciate your 2 cents, I'll try to consider all opinions  biggrin.gif
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sh*t boss, how fast next interview come << out of your control

DBA, Data engineer just a tittle, do some training your if you really interested with certain topic << this is under your control

even if the bank offer/better permanent offer come after you join back contract job, nothing stop you from moving again, it is valid reason to move from temp job to permanent one. Some more is IT, no one bother if you hop really because everyone is doing it, it is just the way market and the industry works.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 18 2022, 04:06 PM)
Hi, i just share about my Career Progression as an External Auditor.

I graduate from a Private University in Malaysia (4 Years Course).

Got My ACCA during my 1st Job. Details shown in below:

2016 (Started in Feb) Small Audit Firm: RM 2.5k
2017 (Promoted) : RM 3.2k (Finished my ACCA)
2017 (Move to a Mid-tier) : RM 3k (For Greater Exposure)
2018 (Promoted) : RM 3.8k
2018 (Move to a Small Firm) : RM 3.5k (Due to Family Matters, need to move back to Hometown)
2019 (Promoted) : RM 4.5k (Get my MIA and ACCA Member)
2019 (Move to one of the Big 4): RM 5.2k
2021 (Go to Commercial for Contractual work) : RM7.5k
2021 (Move back to Audit) : RM 6.5k
2022 (After getting my Audit Partner License) : RM 10k

My Career is keep on shifting from job to job due to incident happen around me.
I am lucky enough to some good Manager or Partner during the time which i climbing up to the Audit Partner post even though i am unsure about what would be my next promotion or even increment.

My Firm eventually could provide a high Bonus/Performance incentive around 3-4months.

Time is changing and so the industry. Don't wait for opportunity but snatch it when you have a chance.  thumbup.gif
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Maybe it is applicable to you as auditor but not all industry can apply. To be honest if I were see someone resume like you (non-accounting) I will seriously forgone the candidate for good because it is zero loyalty. How one can gain more experience if jumping here and there as job hopper. To acquire skill in fact 6 months or 1 year can be competence to do the task but experience and network need time to build. Changing job frequently doesn't mean of getting good experience but rather it is for seeking good pay purpose.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 26 2022, 09:23 AM)
Maybe it is applicable to you as auditor but not all industry can apply. To be honest if I were see someone resume like you (non-accounting) I will seriously forgone the candidate for good because it is zero loyalty. How one can gain more experience if jumping here and there as job hopper. To acquire skill in fact 6 months or 1 year can be competence to do the task but experience and network need time to build. Changing job frequently doesn't mean of getting good experience but rather it is for seeking good pay purpose.
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How about changing jobs every 2 years+? Acceptable?
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primary objective of work is $

sh*t boss, how fast next interview come << out of your control

DBA, Data engineer just a tittle, do some training your if you really interested with certain topic << this is under your control

even if the bank offer/better permanent offer come after you join back contract job, nothing stop you from moving again, it is valid reason to move from temp job to permanent one. Some more is IT, no one bother if you hop really because everyone is doing it, it is just the way market and the industry works.
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yep that's what i'm still doing now.. self-learning and personal projects. I'm just worried about the fact that I'm gonna be stuck with that job for one year once I signed all the documents, so gonna have to wait for a while to pursue my dreams.

But job hopping every year, I'm afraid of what it will look like on my resume sweat.gif don't have much experience job hopping but I guess if people with a lot of experience and skills can get away with it easily
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QUOTE(canjeth @ Jul 26 2022, 09:28 AM)
How about changing jobs every 2 years+? Acceptable?
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My own opinion. Before 30 years old can change job every 2 or 3 years but when once hit 30 we must focus on 1 job role or 1 industry for further development. After 30 job change frequency should limit at 4-5 years a job at least.

I have several real cases. My friend A who grad in accounting and got a job in small accounting firm. After 1 year he join 1 MNC corporate as account payable but he switch to another local company just merely 9 months due to higher offer but this time as debt collector. Even after 30 years old he still keeping change job every 2-3 years. But thing change after 35 years old when he start finding himself difficult to get new job. Recruiters questioning him why he change job so often and most of the job he change the title remain same as senior executive. He sharing now age about 40 he is in senior executive and salary stagnant. Worse thing is during MCO time he being retrenched and jobless for nearly 1 and half year. Although he got a job now as senior executive but salary is around 4k which is similar as the time he was 30. Whereas some friends who grad same time is now become asistant manager or manager earning beyond 5k or some surpass 10k. He is regret that he did not spent time to build his network and gather enough experience in 1 company.

There are many cases employee said current company do not appreciate loyalty. However there are number of companies outside are appreciate loyalty staffs and they hope to hire. I believe majority of company do not wish to hire a staff who only work for 1-2 years then quit.
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QUOTE(Minana1004 @ Jul 26 2022, 10:04 AM)
yep that's what i'm still doing now.. self-learning and personal projects. I'm just worried about the fact that I'm gonna be stuck with that job for one year once I signed all the documents, so gonna have to wait for a while to pursue my dreams.

But job hopping every year, I'm afraid of what it will look like on my resume sweat.gif  don't have much experience job hopping but I guess if people with a lot of experience and skills can get away with it easily
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You mean your contract cannot resign with like 2 months notice? Similar contract jobs in my previous company allow people to resign rather than need to complete the whole tenure

And probably that is also the reason why the offer is higher as it is a contract job, which certain benefits for permanent staff do not apply to you eg. 13-mth bonus

QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 26 2022, 12:08 PM)
My own opinion. Before 30 years old can change job every 2 or 3 years but when once hit 30 we must focus on 1 job role or 1 industry for further development. After 30 job change frequency should limit at 4-5 years a job at least.

I have several real cases. My friend A who grad in accounting and got a job in small accounting firm. After 1 year he join 1 MNC corporate as account payable but he switch to another local company just merely 9 months due to higher offer but this time as debt collector. Even after 30 years old he still keeping change job every 2-3 years. But thing change after 35 years old when he start finding himself difficult to get new job. Recruiters questioning him why he change job so often and most of the job he change the title remain same as senior executive. He sharing now age about 40 he is in senior executive and salary stagnant. Worse thing is during MCO time he being retrenched and jobless for nearly 1 and half year. Although he got a job now as senior executive but salary is around 4k which is similar as the time he was 30. Whereas some friends who grad same time is now become asistant manager or manager earning beyond 5k or some surpass 10k. He is regret that he did not spent time to build his network and gather enough experience in 1 company.

There are many cases employee said current company do not appreciate loyalty. However there are number of companies outside are appreciate loyalty staffs and they hope to hire. I believe majority of company do not wish to hire a staff who only work for 1-2 years then quit.
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RM4k for an experienced sounded like your friend kena lowballed or maybe he is desperate for reentering job force as even some freshies now are paid that amount
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As a junior designer that focuses on UI/UX web design works (no coding involved)

With RM2800 salary is this around the average for joiners?

I recently heard that UX designers actually earn more than this 3-4k but thing is maybe because I'm junior so it's reasonable?
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Job Title : QA Automation Engineer
Job Description : Develop and maintain automation code (python) for mobile app.
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 1 year ++
Company : Cryptocurrency Company
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: 11 yrs (Including Malaysia)
Experience in Singapore: 8 yrs (Since 2014)
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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 9350
Monthly Allowance: NA
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Ex-boss ask me to help him build test automation for his new company product and pay me USD3000 per month as part time job (50 hours per month).

So total monthly income is SGD9350 + SGD4000 (USD3000) = SGD13350

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It's ok. Did you apply for the license? How was the experience like?
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Yes, if you wish to Audit Partner eventually you need to get the license before moving on.

Well, it do take quite a lot of study before you go for the license interview.

I could said that I am lucky enough to pass the interview for the audit license.
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QUOTE(Harry929292 @ Jul 19 2022, 10:00 AM)
Wow I can only imagine how you felt from 2016-2021. Your pay didnt move and instead drop at times but yet you persevered and became a partner... Congrats on the hard work and never giving up attitude mentality.
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In the early time of my career, i do questioning myself whether Audit Partner will be achievable but thanks god my hard work do paid off.

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Jul 20 2022, 01:24 PM)
I see you really love auditing. How is the work life balance ?

I am no auditor myself but my friend is totally stressed out working in audit firm ( especially big4 ). Everyday crying OTW to work, everyday ( including weekend ) work until 2am.

It is really sad that auditor despite being a professional but can be having worst work-life balance job out there, compared to engineer, doctors and lawyers.
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You don't really have work-life balance in most of time whereby it's always work life integration which my boss always mentioning.

Yes, we do work on almost every weekend even you becoming an Audit Partner if your staff is not competent enough to ensure that the Financial statement which Partner signing is true and fair.

Not sure about other industry but it will also depend on the firm culture whether overtime working is required.


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That's quite a jump from 2021 to 2022. You joined as manager in 2021?
What line are u in? Software developer?
Your friend girl or guy? Just asking. But seriously, if feel that way everyday, think its better to really consider whether want to keep working in audit or not. Or is it ur friend wants to get the practical experience first?
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Yes, as Manager.
The increment is because of the Audit License obtained but also need to noted that any audit report signed will be held accountable to each individual partner who sign on it as such I would say that due to the risk that partner taking up, the paid increased.
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You mean your contract cannot resign with like 2 months notice? Similar contract jobs in my previous company allow people to resign rather than need to complete the whole tenure

And probably that is also the reason why the offer is higher as it is a contract job, which certain benefits for permanent staff do not apply to you eg. 13-mth bonus
RM4k for an experienced sounded like your friend kena lowballed or maybe he is desperate for reentering job force as even some freshies now are paid that amount
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It is hard for him to ask for 5k in a senior position at age of 40. Not many company willing to hire a senior executive at age of 40 in 5k where they can provide 4k to hire and younger staff who are more willing to learn and willing to work OT. As a male in age of 40 we should at least in position like teamleader, assistant manager or above.

For admin work freshies paid is still below 4k bar, probably in between of 2.5 - 3.5k. We can jump company to get pay rise but after age of 30 we should stay in one field and develop our professionalism. By age of 35 and above we should be in assistant manager or above level.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 26 2022, 09:23 AM)
Maybe it is applicable to you as auditor but not all industry can apply. To be honest if I were see someone resume like you (non-accounting) I will seriously forgone the candidate for good because it is zero loyalty. How one can gain more experience if jumping here and there as job hopper. To acquire skill in fact 6 months or 1 year can be competence to do the task but experience and network need time to build. Changing job frequently doesn't mean of getting good experience but rather it is for seeking good pay purpose.
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Yes, you are right, it do take years for acquire skills and experience.
But it's seems to be a trend where people not satisfying with the current paid and then job hop to another company (seems a lot when auditing the payroll)

Nowadays, younger professional (my staff) also changing job quite frequently due to paid, work-life or perhaps job exposure.

There are a lot of talent out there but most of them work for large organisation, talent is hard for smaller organization.


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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 27 2022, 08:58 AM)
You don't really have work-life balance in most of time whereby it's always work life integration which my boss always mentioning.

Yes, we do work on almost every weekend even you becoming an Audit Partner if your staff is not competent enough to ensure that the Financial statement which Partner signing is true and fair.

Not sure about other industry but it will also depend on the firm culture whether overtime working is required.
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What is work life integration really? I t just sounds like working non stop and being underappreciated kan? Especially working for Chinese bosses in Big 4
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In the early time of my career, i do questioning myself whether Audit Partner will be achievable but thanks god my hard work do paid off.
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Can share some examples for the adik adik on what kind of hard work you put in?
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QUOTE(Harry929292 @ Jul 27 2022, 05:29 PM)
What is work life integration really? I t just sounds like working non stop and being underappreciated kan? Especially working for Chinese bosses in Big 4
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Means life is integrated in your day-to-day life. Go to the zoo with the family and kids, oh, have to answer customer call. Overseas having family holiday, have to find wifi spot to take a zoom call. At home during the weekend, gardening and also on a zoom call at the same time.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 27 2022, 09:09 AM)
It is hard for him to ask for 5k in a senior position at age of 40. Not many company willing to hire a senior executive at age of 40 in 5k where they can provide 4k to hire and younger staff who are more willing to learn and willing to work OT. As a male in age of 40 we should at least in position like teamleader, assistant manager or above.

For admin work freshies paid is still below 4k bar, probably in between of 2.5 - 3.5k. We can jump company to get pay rise but after age of 30 we should stay in one field and develop our professionalism. By age of 35 and above we should be in assistant manager or above level.
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If it is a clerical or admin work, then there is a ceiling

So he was jumping from one admin job to another admin job

If want salary to go further up, skillset is important

With that, even I am not a teamleader, asst mgr etc. I still can be an IC with specialist / techinical route
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 26 2022, 12:08 PM)
My own opinion. Before 30 years old can change job every 2 or 3 years but when once hit 30 we must focus on 1 job role or 1 industry for further development. After 30 job change frequency should limit at 4-5 years a job at least.

I have several real cases. My friend A who grad in accounting and got a job in small accounting firm. After 1 year he join 1 MNC corporate as account payable but he switch to another local company just merely 9 months due to higher offer but this time as debt collector. Even after 30 years old he still keeping change job every 2-3 years. But thing change after 35 years old when he start finding himself difficult to get new job. Recruiters questioning him why he change job so often and most of the job he change the title remain same as senior executive. He sharing now age about 40 he is in senior executive and salary stagnant. Worse thing is during MCO time he being retrenched and jobless for nearly 1 and half year. Although he got a job now as senior executive but salary is around 4k which is similar as the time he was 30. Whereas some friends who grad same time is now become asistant manager or manager earning beyond 5k or some surpass 10k. He is regret that he did not spent time to build his network and gather enough experience in 1 company.

There are many cases employee said current company do not appreciate loyalty. However there are number of companies outside are appreciate loyalty staffs and they hope to hire. I believe majority of company do not wish to hire a staff who only work for 1-2 years then quit.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 27 2022, 09:09 AM)
It is hard for him to ask for 5k in a senior position at age of 40. Not many company willing to hire a senior executive at age of 40 in 5k where they can provide 4k to hire and younger staff who are more willing to learn and willing to work OT. As a male in age of 40 we should at least in position like teamleader, assistant manager or above.

For admin work freshies paid is still below 4k bar, probably in between of 2.5 - 3.5k. We can jump company to get pay rise but after age of 30 we should stay in one field and develop our professionalism. By age of 35 and above we should be in assistant manager or above level.
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even as an account assistant, your friend's pay is severely underpaid, these days even junior role can go up to 5k, accounting manager maybe from 8k onwards, with ACCA is five figures above easily

it seems for each time ur friend jump, he only look for minor increment and not the role/responsibilities that comes with it, in accounting field there's not much choices other than to climb the ladder, unlike other engineering fields whereby just being a senior engineer can get high pay while remaining an IC


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jul 27 2022, 10:40 PM)
even as an account assistant, your friend's pay is severely underpaid, these days even junior role can go up to 5k, accounting manager maybe from 8k onwards, with ACCA is five figures above easily

it seems for each time ur friend jump, he only look for minor increment and not the role/responsibilities that comes with it, in accounting field there's not much choices other than to climb the ladder, unlike other engineering fields whereby just being a senior engineer can get high pay while remaining an IC
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Accounts Asst. in Klang Valley, yes

in other than KV like Melaka, N9... RM2,500 maybe

because of cost concern, even MNC offers this level, and they take max until Matriculation, Diploma or CAT leavers

SME... SPM max then and offer you RM1,500 (Even RM1,200 also ada on Jobstreet last time) and jobscope = FULL SET of account

For Accounting wanna become IC then have to steer a bit out of Financial Reporting, go FP&A or Project Accountant then can get RM8k and above in MNC as IC

If regional role then 5 figure possible but have to jaga a few countries lah


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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jul 27 2022, 06:05 PM)
Means life is integrated in your day-to-day life. Go to the zoo with the family and kids, oh, have to answer customer call. Overseas having family holiday, have to find wifi spot to take a zoom call. At home during the weekend, gardening and also on a zoom call at the same time.
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OMG that sounds like a typical asian farked up mindset to keep working. The China 996 culture.

It should work both ways then, half way I work, my wife call then I will just get up and leave OR will it be just one direction where bosses can disturbyou but you cannot disturb them if your family needs you.
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Can share some examples for the adik adik on what kind of hard work you put in?
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My First Job, Life is quite easy, 9-6 job but work on Saturday for 4 hour. not much Overtime working and etc but i also realized that the Audit is not what being learned from the Text book or ACCA Paper.
Therefore i join into a Mid-tier firm to seeks for the exposure of the job.

2nd Job. During that time at mid-tiers, my life was wake up 7-9am at the morning and reach office or Client Place by 8-10am in the morning.
But no matters when am i, i will be Office during the night time and rushing the job until 2-4am or even not sleeping and showering for 33 hours (1 or 2 times during that period with the Mid-tier). This kind of life style remained for around 1 year and 2 months before i quit due to Family Matters which i need to go back to my hometown and take care of my parent. At least 14 hour per day during weekend and weekday. I work around 420 hours per months (some day i might be sick, car accident or what then i rest more, but average hour per month is 420).

3rd Job. So the Next job, i was held greater responsibilities to take care of the Branch after i join the firm 3 months later, all those Admin job like light bulk rosak or anything happen, i will also need to take care. In the same time, i need to review Junior files, check the collection, look for new business opportunity to expand the Branch and etc. So that time is not as tough as the Mid-tier where all is related to work but i still work at least 12-14 hour per day but can rest during some of the weekend. Around 320 hour per months which should be trackable as i maintained my own timetable and submitted to my boss for Replacement leave which later on burn off due to resignation.

4th Job. Big 4, nothing much to say with that cause everyone know what is the working environment. Long hour working which is similar to to the 2nd job, but i do arrange my time for some entertainment this time, so is around 380 hour per month.

5th Job is contractual job at Commercial (Contract - 6months), most relax job ever but i felt stuck so later on switch back to the Current firms.

Currently, work around 250-280 hour per month. Hell a lot of Meeting with Client and Internal staff or Management.
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What is work life integration really? I t just sounds like working non stop and being underappreciated kan? Especially working for Chinese bosses in Big 4
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My understanding is Work when you needed, so meaning to say that if you have a well time management for each of engagement, your could also enjoy the life outside of the work.

E.g. All Meeting being Scheduled and Task being assigned, closely following the due date. Manage your Boss, staff and Client closely. Instead of saying that "I will provide you as soon as possible", gave an Actual date (a Promised) and don't FFK on your Promise.

So, sometime i might work very late at Nigh due to i have promised something to my boss, client or even staff.
Some time, i might reply you in Lowyat during this office hour as most of my work is properly arranged, so when i go vacation or shopping for grocery, no 1 really call me.

But still, Business is Business, if your boss know you are FREE, they will give you more Jobs. At my level, i will argue related to the risk assessment. Less Time, High Risk, you ok to take then remember that you will sign on the report and i cant give you assurance (A lot of things do need time, People who know will know what i am talking about). Anything you signed that without properly supported, you will end up be the next Serba or 1MDB , so they will Reconsider.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 28 2022, 01:20 PM)
My understanding is Work when you needed, so meaning to say that if you have a well time management for each of engagement, your could also enjoy the life outside of the work.

E.g. All Meeting being Scheduled and Task being assigned, closely following the due date. Manage your Boss, staff and Client closely. Instead of saying that "I will provide you as soon as possible", gave an Actual date (a Promised) and don't FFK on your Promise.

So, sometime i might work very late at Nigh due to i have promised something to my boss, client or even staff.
Some time, i might reply you in Lowyat during this office hour as most of my work is properly arranged, so when i go vacation or shopping for grocery, no 1 really call me.

But still, Business is Business, if your boss know you are FREE, they will give you more Jobs. At my level, i will argue related to the risk assessment. Less Time, High Risk, you ok to take then remember that you will sign on the report and i cant give you assurance (A lot of things do need time, People who know will know what i am talking about). Anything you signed that without properly supported, you will end up be the next Serba or 1MDB , so they will Reconsider.
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I agree that if the boss see you free, they will just pile more on you and those that cant perform normally not much given to them zzz....

And ya I largely agree with what you mentioned about work life integration...
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Jul 28 2022, 01:09 PM)
My First Job, Life is quite easy, 9-6 job but work on Saturday for 4 hour. not much Overtime working and etc but i also realized that the Audit is not what being learned from the Text book or ACCA Paper.
Therefore i join into a Mid-tier firm to seeks for the exposure of the job.

2nd Job. During that time at mid-tiers, my life was wake up 7-9am at the morning and reach office or Client Place by 8-10am in the morning.
But no matters when am i, i will be Office during the night time and rushing the job until 2-4am or even not sleeping and showering for 33 hours (1 or 2 times during that period with the Mid-tier). This kind of life style remained for around 1 year and 2 months before i quit due to Family Matters which i need to go back to my hometown and take care of my parent. At least 14 hour per day during weekend and weekday. I work around 420 hours per months (some day i might be sick, car accident or what then i rest more, but average hour per month is 420).

3rd Job. So the Next job, i was held greater responsibilities to take care of the Branch after i join the firm 3 months later, all those Admin job like light bulk rosak or anything happen, i will also need to take care. In the same time, i need to review Junior files, check the collection, look for new business opportunity to expand the Branch and etc. So that time is not as tough as the Mid-tier where all is related to work but i still work at least 12-14 hour per day but can rest during some of the weekend. Around 320 hour per months which should be trackable as i maintained my own timetable and submitted to my boss for Replacement leave which later on burn off due to resignation.

4th Job. Big 4, nothing much to say with that cause everyone know what is the working environment. Long hour working which is similar to to the 2nd job, but i do arrange my time for some entertainment this time, so is around 380 hour per month.

5th Job is contractual job at Commercial (Contract - 6months), most relax job ever but i felt stuck so later on switch back to the Current firms.

Currently, work around 250-280 hour per month. Hell a lot of Meeting with Client and Internal staff or Management.
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How do you stay so motivated through this amount of crazy hours worked for so long?? What do you tell yourself? Wouldnt it have been nice to stay at a life that is easy like your first job?
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How about changing jobs every 2 years+? Acceptable?
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Don't let the years be the benchmark for a change. Focus more on the skill and value you can bring to the table, which then translates to better job roles outside and better pay instead. Remember, it isn't about what you do but what are the results/impact you bring.
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How do you stay so motivated through this amount of crazy hours worked for so long?? What do you tell yourself? Wouldnt it have been nice to stay at a life that is easy like your first job?
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This question could be asked to Most of the Auditors, why work for so long hour?
For me, is the Exposure and Knowledge learned through out the task, there is always new Issue or Challenge you might faced during the Audit Work.
I learned quite a lot things through out the time when i am auditing my client, like Business perspective (Risk Management, how they overcome Covid-19 period and etc), Internal Control (Understand the Actual SOP of the Company, how the Company could improve by not increasing the cost and etc) and some interpersonal skills.

From my Personal views, it's always "How long you need to take to get your desirable salary range and get more work exposure through out the period" that really driven me.

My Believe is that "Your Worth based on the Competency and Capability", so as long as i am improving and my salary would reflect that. (Being the 10% Talent out of the staff pools which my boss always mentioned).
So 1st priority, is that learn those would be the value-added in your job and worry about the salary next.
But there are situation that, you think you worth more than that, then it's the time to let you superior know (Communication between both parties' expectation is important).

Everyone would wish to have easy life but easy life might come with slower career progression, low paid, repeatable daily task and etc.
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QUOTE(Jay.C1992 @ Aug 1 2022, 11:44 AM)
This question could be asked to Most of the Auditors, why work for so long hour?
For me, is the Exposure and Knowledge learned through out the task, there is always new Issue or Challenge you might faced during the Audit Work.
I learned quite a lot things through out the time when i am auditing my client, like Business perspective (Risk Management, how they overcome Covid-19 period and etc), Internal Control (Understand the Actual SOP of the Company, how the Company could improve by not increasing the cost and etc) and some interpersonal skills.

From my Personal views, it's always "How long you need to take to get your desirable salary range and get more work exposure through out the period" that really driven me.

My Believe is that "Your Worth based on the Competency and Capability", so as long as i am improving and my salary would reflect that. (Being the 10% Talent out of the staff pools which my boss always mentioned).
So 1st priority, is that learn those would be the value-added in your job and worry about the salary next.
But there are situation that, you think you worth more than that, then it's the time to let you superior know (Communication between both parties' expectation is important).

Everyone would wish to have easy life but easy life might come with slower career progression, low paid, repeatable daily task and etc.
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I can see you are quite driven... Pls keep in touch to share your life stories on how to push forward
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Job Desciption : IT solution provider, requirement gathering, Business Analysis, Project management and problem solving
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0.6years
Company : Malaysia
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 9

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM10000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 3-6mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Base on request
Annual Leaves: 22 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Basic Medical
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : There's still room to grow, the longer i stay in the same field for domain will be gaining value for my own. Could be better on quick and better solution, management of stakeholders
Where I will go from here : Will still prefer to stick on my role, but willing to learn more in order to be promoted as Lead. My goal are to lead multiple product
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Job Title : Hardware Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Design of electronic hardware at pcb level and manage project from design ->NPI ->Preproduction
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1.5
Company : MNC in penang
Industry : electronic
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : senior
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40h

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM6400
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1.5mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : no
Work From Home Availability: 0 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 15.5 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Benefits (where relevant) : discounted stocks purchase/further study allowance
Health Benefits : yes
Transport Benefits : no
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : no
Other Benefits : no

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : many mnc in penang to jump ship if things dont work out
Current salary against peers in industry : Dont know, would love to hear from you.
Growth prospects : Good room for growth
Where I will go from here : 10k by 35 if promoted to management roles

If anyone has similar background, please share how much u r earning smile.gif
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I also work in similar role in Penang. For direct comparison with yours, when i was at around 6.5 year of experience, my annual pay was around 100k-105k (base salary + fixed bonus/allowance + variable profit bonus). So i would say yours is pretty comparable.

Fast forward 4 years later, my current annual pay is between 150k-170k (the 20k is on profit-related bonuses). I did move to a new job 2 years ago in 2020 though, that helped a lot in bumping up my pay.

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Job Desciption : Machine Automation using PC based
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Years spent in company : 3 years 1 month
Company : Local Like MNC
Industry : Machine Manufacturer
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years as an Industrial Engineer, 1 Year as Mobile Apps Development,1 Year as Equipment Engineer

Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4000
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 0.5 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi Hours
Annual Leaves: 15 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : Samsung Program
Health Benefits : Medical and Optical (RM1000)
Transport Benefits :-
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :-
Other Benefits :-

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :Not that good
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid
Growth prospects : Yes, but it will take too long at my age. If put in effort, it can go far, but business is not that good.
Where I will go from here : I might find something which will be diffrent from this, but it will still be software.

Remark: I might need to seek guidance from the people around and thoughts on it.

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Wow... Did you go through the maneger path?
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No, i’m still in technical role. My title is staff engineer, which is typically used for a level above senior. It’s pretty common for design engineers to reach the ‘staff’ level after 8-10 years of experience. But different companies have different pay range for junior/senior/staff for sure.
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Experience before joining: -
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc science
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 8, but during peak season can go up to 12 hours per day

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Monthly Allowance: 300
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Transport Benefits : Parking pass paid by company
Flexi Working Hours : Hybrid working
Leave: 38 days

Remarks: My second year in this role. Before this i was in call center at the same company for 5 years, moved to the other department (promoted). Coming from call center, the new role is much better as i dont have to deal with customer. Mostly doing processing job. Since we're supporting the UK office, work start at 4pm everyday, no traffic jam so that's a good thing. kinda underpaid for someone at my age sad.gif
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Job Title : Senior exec
Job Description : Boring processing job
Age :  30
Years spent in company : 6 years++
Industry : Banking (GSC)
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: -
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BSc science
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 8, but during peak season can go up to 12 hours per day

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4565 + ot (if any)
Monthly Allowance: 300
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : yearly bonus 1 month

Benefits (where relevant)
Health Benefits :  standard medical, vision, dental
Transport Benefits : Parking pass paid by company
Flexi Working Hours : Hybrid working
Leave: 38 days

Remarks: My second year in this role. Before this i was in call center at the same company for 5 years, moved to the other department (promoted). Coming from call center, the new role is much better as i dont have to deal with customer. Mostly doing processing job. Since we're supporting the UK office, work start at 4pm everyday, no traffic jam so that's a good thing. kinda underpaid for someone at my age  sad.gif
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Maybe it is applicable to you as auditor but not all industry can apply. To be honest if I were see someone resume like you (non-accounting) I will seriously forgone the candidate for good because it is zero loyalty. How one can gain more experience if jumping here and there as job hopper. To acquire skill in fact 6 months or 1 year can be competence to do the task but experience and network need time to build. Changing job frequently doesn't mean of getting good experience but rather it is for seeking good pay purpose.
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This view is outdated today. The consensus among many HR practitioners today is on whether a candidate is “desirable” and “ambitious” to meet the minimum performance criteria set by the hiring departments or companies.

Those with more job transitions suggest that the candidate is desirable in the market, is keeping abreast with current developments and demonstrates ambition. The ability to learn fast despite the short timeframe is also highly desirable. All of the qualities above are typically found among high performers.

Furthermore, networking can also be done outside of your workplace and can include industry-linked events, roadshows, award ceremonies, webinars and any thought leadership events. These can be done in parallel with your current role and could lead to more realistic opportunities. Companies, in general, prefer external hires and would usually seek out referrals first from their staff.

There are 2 types of hiring that happen in Malaysia. One is a manpower plug, where a candidate is hired to perform a role with not much of any prospect. These hirings tend to prefer loyal candidates but with lesser emphasis on growth. On the flip side is the performance-based hires. These typically hire from a pool of talented individuals that are highly sought after in the industry for the skills that they possess or the experience unmatched by other candidates. Candidates for the latter also tend to job hop more often when you compared to the candidate pool from the previous category. As they are more desirable, they received far more job offers and have the option to pivot whenever an opportunity aligns to their career objectives

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QUOTE(maidenless @ Aug 13 2022, 08:59 AM)
This view is outdated today. The consensus among many HR practitioners today is on whether a candidate is “desirable” and “ambitious” to meet the minimum performance criteria set by the hiring departments or companies.

Those with more job transitions suggest that the candidate is desirable in the market, is keeping abreast with current developments and demonstrates ambition. The ability to learn fast despite the short timeframe is also highly desirable. All of the qualities above are typically found among high performers.

Furthermore, networking can also be done outside of your workplace and can include industry-linked events, roadshows, award ceremonies, webinars and any thought leadership events. These can be done in parallel with your current role and could lead to more realistic opportunities. Companies, in general, prefer external hires and would usually seek out referrals first from their staff.

There are 2 types of hiring that happen in Malaysia. One is a manpower plug, where a candidate is hired to perform a role with not much of any prospect. These hirings tend to prefer loyal candidates but with lesser emphasis on growth. On the flip side is the performance-based hires. These typically hire from a pool of talented individuals that are highly sought after in the industry for the skills that they possess or the experience unmatched by other candidates. Candidates for the latter also tend to job hop more often when you compared to the candidate pool from the previous category. As they are more desirable, they received far more job offers and have the option to pivot whenever an opportunity aligns to their career objectives
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So true. And more importantly - as a candidate, you just need to ensure there is significant "progression" (w.r.t. scope and responsibilities) and be consistent (same function or industry) and you're good. If I see a CV, every 1-2 years hop, and the subsequent job is always better than the last one, I will see that person as a strong performer, that he/she is wanted in the job market and he/she knows how to secure good opportunities. But I'm sure there are people who hop and remain 'analyst' level after 10 years - then that's 100% red flag for sure.

To the previous poster that says "job hopping = no loyalty", I really loathe this kind of mindset. This isn't a freaking romantic monogamous relationship, for pete's sake. Why do employees have to bear the burden of being seen as having 'no loyalty towards the company' and be punished, whereas it is totally acceptable for corporates to make positions redundant the second you're seen as irrelevant? It's really time for employees and employers to be on equal grounds and employers need to retire archaic hiring practices and start valuing the employees so they don't need to "hop" just to get what they deserve on the market.
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What's the SGD salary range of a software engineer with 3 years of experience?
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Job Title : Regional IT Infra Manager
Job Description : Cloud Modernization
Age : 38
Years spent in company : 1 months
Company : Insurance
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 14 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree in IT
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40hrs

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Basic Salary : RM25k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~2 , more once confirmed

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

My previous job as Cloud Manager pays me 18k, since the new role has more responsibilities I asked for at least 30% bump in salary
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QUOTE(loki88 @ Aug 15 2022, 03:03 PM)
Job Title : Regional IT Infra Manager
Job Description : Cloud Modernization
Age : 38
Years spent in company : 1 months
Company : Insurance
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 14 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree in IT
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM25k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~2 , more once confirmed

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

My previous job as Cloud Manager pays me 18k, since the new role has more responsibilities  I asked for at least 30% bump in salary
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5 and looking to expand..
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Industry : Financial
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Team Lead
Experience before joining (years) : 4.5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Software Engineering with few professional certificate
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-50hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM12500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-3 months depending on company & individual performance. Average 2

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: Flexible
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Benefits (where relevant) : Insurance subsidy, Loan subsidy, gym membership subsidy, parking subsidy, typical optical & dental benefit
Health Benefits : Medical coverage extended to family
Transport Benefits : no
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : no
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Project management role
Current salary against peers in industry : Probably average to tiny bit above average
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Where I will go from here : Moving towards project management role, target PMP cert and hopefully an hit 20k before 40
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Job Title : Company Secretary
Age :  35
Years spent in company : 5
Industry : Financial Institution (FI)
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: 13 years in public listed companies and FIs
Qualifications: Diploma only but have PC and Co Sec license issued by SSM
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So you didn't joined any other Company Secretary firm (External), all the while work as Internal Company Secretary?

By the way, thanks for the sharing. smile.gif
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So you didn't joined any other Company Secretary firm (External), all the while work as Internal Company Secretary?

By the way, thanks for the sharing. smile.gif
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Yes. All the while working for in-house secretarial department.

You actually learn a lot more than working in secretarial firms as PLC experience is really important.
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Job Desciption : basic audit stuff
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Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Associate level/entry level
Experience before joining (years) : 0 (6 months internship at MNC)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelors Degree
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Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 (maybe slightly different once engagements start rolling in).

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Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi working hours + can WFH depending on team
Work From Home Availability: Depends on manager and rest of team
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial - if client wants you to be on at specific time then have to. otherwise can flex

I'll be honest, I took this job because it was the highest paying and most convenient for me initially, but right now I'm thinking it might have been a mistake. I don't have the audit mindset, and maybe I should have opted for lower pay but more job satisfaction. We'll see how it goes though. I feel like I should try at least one busy season and if I can't handle it I'll leave.
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5 and looking to expand..
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can i have detail? I have around 5 years in infra and cloud (operation & design)
looking to move
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Job Title : Assurance Associate
Job Desciption : basic audit stuff
Age : 23
Years spent in company : just started (0)
Company : Audit company
Industry : Audit/Acc
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Associate level/entry level
Experience before joining (years) : 0 (6 months internship at MNC)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelors Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 (maybe slightly different once engagements start rolling in).

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM3,400 +130 allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi working hours + can WFH depending on team
Work From Home Availability: Depends on manager and rest of team
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial - if client wants you to be on at specific time then have to. otherwise can flex

I'll be honest, I took this job because it was the highest paying and most convenient for me initially, but right now I'm thinking it might have been a mistake. I don't have the audit mindset, and maybe I should have opted for lower pay but more job satisfaction. We'll see how it goes though. I feel like I should try at least one busy season and if I can't handle it I'll leave.
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Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50+ hours

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Contractual Bonus (months): 1
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Around 1-3 months

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Annual Leaves: 15 days
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Experience before joining (years) : 3&1/2 Year
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Location : KL (Hybrid) WFH
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Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 20k (2 months)

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Work From Home Availability: Hybrid
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Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : partner
Experience before joining (years) : 10 years
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Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 0 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : yes
Work From Home Availability: any day
Annual Leaves: any day
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) : 0
Health Benefits : 0
Transport Benefits : 0
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 0
Other Benefits : 0

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : satisfied at the moment, might up my working hours or concentrate on marketing in the future
Current salary against peers in industry : for the hours put in, pretty good
Growth prospects : Sky is the limit
Where I will go from here : find a wife to get more motivation to work.
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Looks like PwC judging from the peanut allowances of RM130 - mobile phone MR60 + travel RM70
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Yep. Was disappointed but then thought maybe that's standard allowance. Guess it's not huh
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Yep. Was disappointed but then thought maybe that's standard allowance. Guess it's not huh
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RM 3.4k for Fresh Graduate is slightly higher than Previous years, Perhaps they do have some restructuring going on (If PWC).

Well, the allowance part is kind of low in compare with the other big 4 but still you are getting almost the highest paid in Audit industry (For Fresh Graduate).

Some audit firm outside (Small and Medium), offer from RM 2,500 to RM 3,000.

Anyhow, you just join into Audit industry, perhaps after a few months of working, you could understand the purpose of audit and how you could gain exposure from that. thumbup.gif
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i notice mostly earning >10k per month is doing either team lead or manager position...
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Yeah, the fact is that, the Demand for Managerial Position is always in the Critical Occupations list.

https://www.talentcorp.com.my/clients/Talen...eport_FINAL.pdf

Therefore people are much more willing to pay for those position.

By acquiring years of experience, knowledge and exposure, there is always a chance for candidate to promote into managerial post. (Cross Finger, might depend on the Company that the person work with as well, larger size of Corporate do have more opportunity to promote as compare with SME).
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Job Title : Regional IT Infra Manager
Job Description : Cloud Modernization
Age : 38
Years spent in company : 1 months
Company : Insurance
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 14 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree in IT
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM25k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~2 , more once confirmed

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: wfh since day 1
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

My previous job as Cloud Manager pays me 18k, since the new role has more responsibilities  I asked for at least 30% bump in salary
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waah seem like so many 5 figure earner here not even reach 40 yo... really respect flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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waah seem like so many 5 figure earner here not even reach 40 yo... really respect  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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In a digitalized world we live in today, I think it's getting more common and no longer a thing to shout about.

Tons of people around me are making >10k, and born after 1990..
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i notice that IT tech field salary has gone up significantly after Covid pandemic

before pandemic eg 2020 I had an interview with TnGD, I only put up an expected of 8k for a DevOps engineer

in that same year through other interviews of similar cloud roles, even for Snr role I expect just 10k also couldn't get it, until last year (2021) i got the senior engineer role for 10k

not really sure the market suddenly adjusted on its own only since the beginning of this year?

but cukurr now I am getting 11k for just a middle level engineer (non senior non lead)

Covid really helped transform this field to be more valuable than O&G laugh.gif


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 2 2022, 01:53 AM)
i notice that IT tech field salary has gone up significantly after Covid pandemic

before pandemic eg 2020 I had an interview with TnGD, I only put up an expected of 8k for a DevOps engineer

in that same year through other interviews of similar cloud roles, even for Snr role I expect just 10k also couldn't get it, until last year (2021) i got the senior engineer role for 10k

not really sure the market suddenly adjusted on its own only since the beginning of this year?

but cukurr now I am getting 11k for just a middle level engineer (non senior non lead)

Covid really helped transform this field to be more valuable than O&G laugh.gif
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do you might share how many yrs experience u get senior position with 10k?
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do you might share how many yrs experience u get senior position with 10k?
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10 years?

what i wanted to highlight is

the job market undergoes quite some changes circa 2021/22, when most countries in the world transitions to endemic stage and 99% of the economy activities starts to resume, it was when the great resignation happened (still happens now) and employers are struggling to find replacements even till this day

which is why those got their offer prior to 2021 were lower than after 2021



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# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev

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Any tips? Like what website to use and did you apply through company website, etc. Thanks!
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1st JobJ
Job Title : Technical Manager
Job Desciption :
Age : 34
Years spent in company : 8 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Manufacturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Excutive
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : Cyberjaya
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9150
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 3-4 months

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical & dental
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
Other Benefits : Car and housing subsidy. And superior been very nice & supportive.

2nd Job
Job Title : Product Specialist
Job Description :
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 0.2 years
Company :
Industry : Entertainment
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 16000
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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1st Job
Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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QUOTE(alpha team @ Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM)
only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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I guess I'm very fortunate for this one. I ask for RM6.1k, which is 30% increase from my first salary in hope that it will be reduced to 15%-20% increase salary (common advise that I heard) but got offered RM7.5k instead (which is very surprising to me).

Yes, I don't have a degree but I self-taught myself and have AWS Certified Solutions Architect Associate and Kubernetes Certified Administrator. I think I'm doing very well during interview and able to answer all technical questions confidently and they don't mind at all that I didn't finish a degree yet (degree not a requirement for this job, which is become more common right now for tech jobs as long as you can prove that you able to do the job).



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only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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That's how crazy the digital industry is right now

I was involved in hiring for my team and the salary bump for most role as compared to few years ago is quite significant

A number of my friends also landed a new role in other company with significant salary bump
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QUOTE(ezra_azuri @ Sep 11 2022, 10:50 AM)
1st Job
Job Title : Site Reliability Engineer
Job Desciption :
Age : 21
Years spent in company : 1 years
Company : Private (Have office in Singapore, Indonesia and India)
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Bangsar South, KL (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours (9AM-6PM, sometime oncall 3AM-5AM)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4700
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A (quit before bonus)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, dental, life insurance
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Mobile & Laptop (RM 200)
Flexi Working Hours : No
Other Benefits : RM 150 monthly e-wallet

2nd Job
Job Title : Release Automation Engineer (DevOps Engineer)
Job Description :
Age : 22
Years spent in company : 0 years (will start this 20th Sep)
Company : MNC
Industry : Marketing Technologies
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-level
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Matriculation (some uni before dropping out)
Location : Cyberjaya, Selangor (hybrid; can work at home or office at will)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5 hours (Expected)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7500
Contractual Bonus (months): N/a
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical
Transport Benefits : Transport allowance (RM 500)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Flexi Working Hours : Yes
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This is quite impressive. Keep up!
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QUOTE(YoshiroTee @ Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM)
# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
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RM30k per month wow
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from manufacturing to entertainment?? what???
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QUOTE(YoshiroTee @ Sep 3 2022, 02:54 AM)
# Job 1
Job Title : Fullstack dev
Job Desciption : Develop many apps and microsite
Years spent in company : 4 years
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth + RM 5~6k

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# Job 2
Job Title : Web dev
Job Desciption : Social webapp
Years spent in company : 1 month
Industry : Adult Entertainment
Tenure : 2Y Contract
Location : PH (Remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : 4500 USDT
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 12~15mths

Age : 29
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree

Health Benefits : Yes for #1 Job

Growth prospects : Learn how to start own IT business, probably tech solution firm

2 jobs, how?
#1 Work from 9AM to 5PM
#2 Work from 6PM to 2AM

No life I know smile.gif just doing this for short term.
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you maintain a boner while coding? laugh.gif

jk jk
i notice a lot of good paying jobs from PH.
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I think it would be great to specify what field of study in the "Highest paper qualification" section:-

e.g . "Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree (in chemical engineering)"

I think it would open up even more interesting discussions, like lets say you studied chemical but you're working in software engineering, for example.

Just a suggestion ofc.
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QUOTE(alpha team @ Sep 14 2022, 11:01 AM)
only 1 yr exp and not even degree holder can get RM7500???
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That company who hired him is kinda sus...

Normally... fresh site reliability engineer requires at least a BSc computer science degree.... CKA doesn't give you a passport directly to a high paying site reliability engineer job especially you have 0 experience.... otherwise every tom dick and harry would just jump into the CKA bandwagon.... it takes only 3 months to get CKA certified and it is not that hard...

Anyhow.. not saying the story doesn't checks out.... in this day and age... a lot of weird things that make no sense does happens....


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QUOTE(happy_berry @ Sep 18 2022, 05:33 PM)
from manufacturing to entertainment?? what???
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Sorry if it is misleading. It's the industry I'm working. Day to day it's more on software development.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 20 2022, 12:02 AM)
That company who hired him is kinda sus...

Normally... fresh site reliability engineer requires at least a BSc computer science degree.... CKA doesn't give you a passport directly to a high paying site reliability engineer job especially you have 0 experience.... otherwise every tom dick and harry would just jump into the CKA bandwagon.... it takes only 3 months to get CKA certified and it is not that hard...

Anyhow.. not saying the story doesn't checks out.... in this day and age... a lot of weird things that make no sense does happens....
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I see a lot of DevOps/SRE/Software Development job right now which don't require CS undergraduate. My current employer also don't mind at all that I didn't finish my degree. In my situation I do a lot of self-learning regarding CI/CD, IaC, Cloud Computing, monitoring systems to name a few (which are not covered in most of the CS undergraduate in Malaysia) with basic like programming, networking, security and OS already learned during undergraduate before dropping out. It's also common to meet other people coming from unrelated undergraduate major and working in the tech job with self-learning. As long as you prove that you have the skills required and self-driven, I think that should be fine. It could also be because my current company is based in USA where self-taught and bootcamp are much more acceptable than in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(ezra_azuri @ Sep 21 2022, 03:01 PM)
I see a lot of DevOps/SRE/Software Development job right now which don't require CS undergraduate. My current employer also don't mind at all that I didn't finish my degree. In my situation I do a lot of self-learning regarding CI/CD, IaC, Cloud Computing, monitoring systems to name a few (which are not covered in most of the CS undergraduate in Malaysia) with basic like programming, networking, security and OS already learned during undergraduate before dropping out. It's also common to meet other people coming from unrelated undergraduate major and working in the tech job with self-learning. As long as you prove that you have the skills required and self-driven, I think that should be fine. It could also be because my current company is based in USA where self-taught and bootcamp are much more acceptable than in Malaysia.
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My boss never look at the cert. When he thinks a candidate is ok, he will hire the candidate for testing, and in that 1-2 months probations, if he notices the candidate is unable to do what he/she claims, he will straight away say byebye to the candidate.
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Job Title : Project Engineer
Job Desciption : Manage projects development and execution
Age : 37
Years spent in company : 0
Company : Oil major
Industry : O&G
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 14
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Meng Mech
Location : SG
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 12,350 monthly
Contractual Bonus (months): na
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : avg 2 months depending on company & individual performance.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : requestable
Work From Home Availability: requestable
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : na
Benefits (where relevant) : na
Health Benefits : typical insurance coverage; co-payment for outpatient visits, include family member
Transport Benefits : na
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : laptop
Other Benefits : SGD 150 monthly allowance

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : tbc
Current salary against peers in industry : average
Growth prospects : normal
Where I will go from here : supervisory or specialist

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Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Support Financial System
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 8
Company : Bank XX
Industry : Finance
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):
50-60
Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7100
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-6mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : mostly self managed
Work From Home Availability: 4-8 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 24days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 150 phone allowance
Other Benefits : better loan rates and time to time handouts

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I feel Underpaid
Growth prospects : Ladder too short to climb much. But build up character
Where I will go from here : Discuss with the HOD on my salary and request for a revision to meet the market standards.

I recently got promoted and they increased my salary by 10%. After 6 months of probation they will increase my salary to 8.8k which i feel is still way below market range that others are getting although my JD is 1 of a kind to have an accurate comparison.
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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Sep 29 2022, 12:19 AM)
Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Support Financial System
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 8
Company : Bank XX
Industry : Finance
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):
50-60
Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM7100
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-6mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : mostly self managed
Work From Home Availability: 4-8 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 24days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited
Transport Benefits : none
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 150 phone allowance
Other Benefits : better loan rates and time to time handouts

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I feel Underpaid
Growth prospects : Ladder too short to climb much. But build up character
Where I will go from here : Discuss with the HOD on my salary and request for a revision to meet the market standards.

I recently got promoted and they increased my salary by 10%. After 6 months of probation they will increase my salary to 8.8k which i feel is still way below market range that others are getting although my JD is 1 of a kind to have an accurate comparison.
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Employment Level :Senior
Experience before joining (years) :3 years non related, 5 years related to field
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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7.5k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths


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Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know
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The problem is I have no idea my position in the market in term of salary. No peers or friend working in same field confused.gif
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Job Title : Senior Manager, Finance / Tech
Job Description : Do the tech so finance people can do presentations
Age : 35
Years spent in company : Just started
Experience before joining (years) : 12
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Finance
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50+ hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM21k
Contractual Bonus (months): 1
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Around 1-3 months

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Annual Leaves: 15 days
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Bachelor in finance but doing tech work? What type of IT is this?
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I used to do SAP, now doing data and dashboards. Learnt some IT / programming via youtube etc.
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Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 4
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Location : KL
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Employment Level : Senior Manager
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Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid - based on my understanding should be RM 20k and above.
Growth prospects : Maybe aiming to be Finance Director or equivalent in few years time.
Where I will go from here : Heading to Singapore for new gig. (Wish me luck!)
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Anyone familiar with the pay scale for finance field in SG? How does it compare with someone from MY?

Eg if someone who is a CFO/Fin Director level in MY who then goes over to SG, how much will the salary be?

MY salary RM100k become Sg salary Sgd100k (1:1)?
Rm100k to sgd50k (2:1)?
Rm100k to sgd33k (3:1)?

Anyone with any idea?

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QUOTE(126126 @ Oct 20 2022, 05:11 PM)
Anyone familiar with the pay scale for finance field in SG? How does it compare with someone from MY?

Eg if someone who is a CFO/Fin Director level in MY who then goes over to SG, how much will the salary be?

MY salary RM100k become Sg salary Sgd100k (1:1)?
Rm100k to sgd50k (2:1)?
Rm100k to sgd33k (3:1)?

Anyone with any idea?
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Not sure about Finance

But generally, if you're getting 10k in Malaysia,

1. Cheapskate company will lowball you 5-6k
2. Average company will give you 7-8k
3. Good company would match 10k
4. Exceptional company may even hike >10k

But a lot of factors go into play, eg: market demand, skillset / experience relevance, economic condition, company size, negotiation etc....
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QUOTE(126126 @ Oct 20 2022, 05:11 PM)
Anyone familiar with the pay scale for finance field in SG? How does it compare with someone from MY?

Eg if someone who is a CFO/Fin Director level in MY who then goes over to SG, how much will the salary be?

MY salary RM100k become Sg salary Sgd100k (1:1)?
Rm100k to sgd50k (2:1)?
Rm100k to sgd33k (3:1)?

Anyone with any idea?
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Based on what I know it will be more likely to be (1.5 : 1) for salary package, but the main factor that you should be considering is the growth of that career, bigger platform etcs.

But still most of the company will try to press for some savings, paying you 10-15% lower than market salary… so it’s up to you whether do you find any other factors that attracting you to work in SG.. as there are a lot of people taking this as their stepping stone until they get Permanent Resident status then look for another new job with decent pay.
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Seeking some advice from sifu here, I am looking for the salary range of my latest role which is Lead for SEA regional sales engineer with an MNC company focus on cyber security. I will be based in Malaysia hence taking my pay in RM. Any link or reference point I can refer to?
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Job Title : Mechanical Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Product design, 3D design, Parts Approval, Product & Parts Testing (IEC ISO Standard) and Project Management.
Age : 24 ( 25 soon)
Years spent in company :11 months
Company : SME
Industry : Manucturing
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining (years) :0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering with Honours
Location : Shah Alam
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 51.25

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 3400
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : n/a

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Cant wfh
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 10 days (2022 only got 4 days leave becuz i joined july)
Flexi Working Hours : Yes / No / Partial? No

Benefits (where relevant) : no
Health Benefits : Sick Leave MC 14 days
Transport Benefits : No
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :No
Other Benefits :n/a

I have no idea if i am consider average or slightly lucky as this is just my first job. Can advise me if i am currently doing good? xD
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Updated on 23 octorber 2022

Hi guys, would like to ask for everyone opinions. As from previous update, i got a 10% salary increment in july 2022 and going to get another rm1000 increase from current company in coming jaunary 2023 (sort of like promotion). Recently i have gotten a head hunter job offer as a Business Development Engineer (range of rm3000 to 5000 stated in the post but could get higher than that maybe?). My company usually give 1.5~2 month bonus depend on how much company earn. My question is should i move to a new job (Cuz i feel like still can learn more things from current company) while the new company required to handle project, provide solution to build some lab environment for Asia country. Since i never touch out about this position, can any sifu suggest me what should i do? I am confused right now as i not sure if i shall try the new oppornity or remain in current company. (New company supply lab-level installation for industry factory). Is there a difference between Mechanical Design Engineer (contact customer, do design, follow up supplier)and Business Development Engineer (developp customer potential business, work closely with design team, required outstation often)?

This post has been edited by dtkiller97: Oct 23 2022, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(126126 @ Oct 20 2022, 05:11 PM)
Anyone familiar with the pay scale for finance field in SG? How does it compare with someone from MY?

Eg if someone who is a CFO/Fin Director level in MY who then goes over to SG, how much will the salary be?

MY salary RM100k become Sg salary Sgd100k (1:1)?
Rm100k to sgd50k (2:1)?
Rm100k to sgd33k (3:1)?

Anyone with any idea?
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At this level, it would be a direct negotiation usually. Can't use the usual formulas. Factors that will depend on your salary would be your requirements, demands as well as the type of company that will be hiring you.
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Updated on 23 octorber 2022

Hi guys, would like to ask for everyone opinions. As from previous update, i got a 10% salary increment in july 2022 and going to get another rm1000 increase from current company in coming jaunary 2023 (sort of like promotion). Recently i have gotten a head hunter job offer as a Business Development Engineer (range of rm3000 to 5000 stated in the post but could get higher than that maybe?). My company usually give 1.5~2 month bonus depend on how much company earn. My question is should i move to a new job (Cuz i feel like still can learn more things from current company) while the new company required to handle project, provide solution to build some lab environment for Asia country. Since i never touch out about this position, can any sifu suggest me what should i do? I am confused right now as i not sure if i shall try the new oppornity or remain in current company. (New company supply lab-level installation for industry factory). Is there a difference between Mechanical Design Engineer (contact customer, do design, follow up supplier)and Business Development Engineer (developp customer potential business, work closely with design team, required outstation often)?
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Have you actually gotten the new job, as in, offer letter in hand ready to be signed?
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Updated on 23 octorber 2022

Hi guys, would like to ask for everyone opinions. As from previous update, i got a 10% salary increment in july 2022 and going to get another rm1000 increase from current company in coming jaunary 2023 (sort of like promotion). Recently i have gotten a head hunter job offer as a Business Development Engineer (range of rm3000 to 5000 stated in the post but could get higher than that maybe?). My company usually give 1.5~2 month bonus depend on how much company earn. My question is should i move to a new job (Cuz i feel like still can learn more things from current company) while the new company required to handle project, provide solution to build some lab environment for Asia country. Since i never touch out about this position, can any sifu suggest me what should i do? I am confused right now as i not sure if i shall try the new oppornity or remain in current company. (New company supply lab-level installation for industry factory). Is there a difference between Mechanical Design Engineer (contact customer, do design, follow up supplier)and Business Development Engineer (developp customer potential business, work closely with design team, required outstation often)?
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Looks like you have not gotten the offer and just at the initial stage of the application. You are considering too seriously like as though you will surely get the offer.

One step at a time - get the offer first then only seriously consider. And even if you get the offer then, you have all the rights to reject it. Being headhunted doesn't guarantee that it will end up in an offer.

This post has been edited by canjeth: Oct 23 2022, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Medulla Oblongata @ Oct 7 2022, 09:16 AM)
Job Title :Assistant Manager, Procurement
Job Desciption :Sourcing, Contract Management, Savings etc
Age :29 going 30
Years spent in company :1 month
Company :Manufacturing
Tenure :Permenant
Employment Level :Senior
Experience before joining (years) :3 years non related, 5 years related to field
Highest paper qualification/ education background :Higher Diploma
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours):45-50 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 7.5k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths
Future Prospects (personal outlook) :My first journey in manufacturing industry. Always wanted to work in a factory setting
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know
Growth prospects : No idea

The problem is I have no idea my position in the market in term of salary. No peers or friend working in same field  confused.gif
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Hi everyone,

I got an offer with MNC shared service company. The total package is around 12% increase from current salary. Any advice whether should I consider the move? A bit worried since this is shared service
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Hi everyone,

I got an offer with MNC shared service company. The total package is around 12% increase from current salary. Any advice whether should I consider the move? A bit worried since this is shared service
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What are the other pros and cons of the new offer? Quite honestly I would not consider 12% unless there is something really attractive to sweeten the deal.
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What are the other pros and cons of the new offer? Quite honestly I would not consider 12% unless there is something really attractive to sweeten the deal.
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Other benefit is more or less the same. Tbh, global inflation is catching up with me atm and an increment is very desirable. However I will be 30 soon and at this stage career growth is important to me, moving up from current role will take another 1-2 years.
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anyone knows what is a big 4 manager in SG getting paid currently?

understand that recently SG big 4 have upped their starting pay. wondering if they also do the same for the execs level?
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anyone knows what is a big 4 manager in SG getting paid currently?

understand that recently SG big 4 have upped their starting pay. wondering if they also do the same for the execs level?
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Average Singapore salary for a manager at PwC is SGD$82k per annum (base pay).
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Job Title : Senior Manager
Job Desciption : lead projects, teams, manage senior clients
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 7.5
Company : Big4
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : 2
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Masters in Engineering
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): used to be 50-80 hours pre-pandemic. Nowadays 30-50 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM23k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-4 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: Yes
Annual Leaves: 20+ days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Yes, standard package
Transport Benefits : Yes on project basis. Assigned parking
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : No
Other Benefits : Gym, optical dental and other standard stuff

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average within big4, underpaid in consulting industruy.
Growth prospects : Good room for growth
Where I will go from here : Tax is high, considering SG with lower tax. Still prefer to stay in consulting for another 2-3 years before going over to industry

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QUOTE(thericebug @ Nov 1 2022, 08:19 PM)
Job Title : Senior Manager
Job Desciption : lead projects, teams, manage senior clients
Age : 35
Years spent in company : 7.5
Company : Big4
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : 2
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Masters in Engineering
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): used to be 10-15 hours pre-pandemic. Nowadays 6-10 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM23k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-4 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: Yes
Annual Leaves: 20+ days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Yes, standard package
Transport Benefits : Yes on project basis. Assigned parking
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : No
Other Benefits : Gym, optical dental and other standard stuff

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average within big4, underpaid in consulting industruy.
Growth prospects : Good room for growth
Where I will go from here : Tax is high, considering SG with lower tax. Still prefer to stay in consulting for another 2-3 years before going over to industry
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6 - 10 hours per week?
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6 - 10 hours per week?
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Stumbled upon this thread and since I got asked this a lot so might as well do this anonymously.

Job Title : Chief Actuary
Job Desciption : Whatever deemed actuarial
Age : 38
Years spent in company : 10
Company : -
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Actuarial fellowship
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40+

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM48k
Performance: 3-5 mths
Flexi Working Hours: Partial

Now let’s be clear, to succeed in this field you will need a lot of hard work and perseverance (9-12 professional exams, average pass rate of 30-40%, recommended 150-200 study hours per exam), technical and soft skills that set you apart from your peers at each level unless you have connections (at entry level every year hundreds if not thousands of graduates fighting for just a few openings), and a LOT of lucks which means your hard work may not always pay off. I consider myself one of the lucky ones. But then if you don’t confine yourself to Malaysia, there are a lot of international opportunities especially if you are qualified.

So consider yourself warned.

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Job Title : Consultant
Job Desciption : MES Consultant, specialize in Camstar Opcenter
Age : 26
Years spent in company : 3.5 yrs
Company : private MNC
Industry : MES Integration
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior-Mid
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bach Degree
Location : Penang Island
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4744
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 5 days per month
Annual Leaves: 17 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : 3.5k medical claim and insurance
Transport Benefits : 200 bridge toll claim, pro rated against the amt of days you come to office
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Other Benefits : 12 hrs time off annually, bimonthly team activities like eat BKT, watch movie, played bowling and boardgame cafes fully paid by company,

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average / Don't know
Growth prospects : Seem pretty slow, I am not good enough for fast promotions like some peers, just got promoted this yr after 2 yrs 8 months of working
Where I will go from here : aiming for mid level consultancy job, looking for opportunities this yr
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Age : 29
Years spent in company : 3 years
Company : private clinic
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Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : just renew to Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Shanghai
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-50 hours

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Annual Leaves: 18 days more if needed (company flexible)
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

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Health Benefits : full medical coverage
Transport Benefits : no
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : no
Other Benefits : tax rebate, maternity benefit for my wife (recently nego)

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : above average
Growth prospects : good growth prospect in company as I am still young,
Where I will go from here : aiming to climb the ladder in this company, company hoping to go public, studying as well for medical field.

I would say I am blessed, I joined this company when it was just founded into the 2nd year, took a gamble and turned out good.
Struggled because as a young Malaysian but managed to push through
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Hi Everyone. I'm attending an interview with a Singaporean company for the same kind of position that I'm currently working in.

I currently earn MYR 16,050 in Malaysia. What should I ask for when I speak to the HR of the new company?
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I would suggest to aim for at least double the converted value of your annual pay (inclusive of AWS, bonuses, EPF employer contribution).

E.g. assuming a prorated monthly pay of 20,000 MYR, you should be aiming for at least 12,150 SGD at a 3.30 exchange rate.

You can also lookup the listing in MyCareersFuture to determine the lower, upper bands for the exact position.
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QUOTE(Eriugam @ Nov 30 2022, 05:55 PM)
I would suggest to aim for at least double the converted value of your annual pay (inclusive of AWS, bonuses, EPF employer contribution).

E.g. assuming a prorated monthly pay of 20,000 MYR, you should be aiming for at least 12,150 SGD at a 3.30 exchange rate.

You can also lookup the listing in MyCareersFuture to determine the lower, upper bands for the exact position.
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Thanks for answering. By your explanation, I understand that I should be asking for double the converted value of my annual pay which is as follows:

(Salary + Employer contributions) x (12 months + 2 months bonus)
= (16,000 + 2,000) x (12+2)
= MYR252,000

Exchange Rate: 3.3
= SGD76,364/year

Asking Salary
= SGD76,364 x 2
= SGD152,727/year
= SGD12,727/month

So I should be asking for about SGD12k - 12.5k per month to be comfortable.

Is that right?
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Job Desciption :
Age : 24
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor's
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5500 + 200
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) :

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 12 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 20 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I'm not entirely sure, upped by 42% in salary from fresh grad job.
Growth prospects : I'm basically doing a 2 (sometimes 3) in 1 job. I do QA, automate the tests and a tiny amount of DevOps. Feels like I've only begun to see the tip of the iceberg.
Where I will go from here : still picking up a few pieces here and there so, probably the same but a more senior role.
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Job Title : Resident Engineer
Job Desciption : assist monthly system progress, maintenance and support in software dev in C#, identify system problem, mainly work with alot of SQL server and visual studio.
Age : 22(soon)
Years spent in company : 13 months
Company : small house it solution
Industry : IT
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : fresh
Experience before joining (years) : 0 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma in Science Comp
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 1500
Phone : RM 50
Transport : RM 150
Total : RM 1700

Doing same things again and again every month, I am thinking of moving to a development scope asap as rn i have not done much of that,
Should I move away from my comfort zone guys or what i have been getting and doing is enough for my experience and age?
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Hi, it has been a while.
I would like to share my current career progress.

Programmer - 2017 - 1 year - (RM1700)
Analyst Programmer - 2018 - 6 month - (RM 2300)
Software Engineer- 208 - 8 month - (RM 2500)
Programmer - 2019 - Current (3 years and 6 month) (RM 3000 -> RM 3500 -> RM 5770)

Starting next year I will be joining a new company.

Job Title : Software Developer
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 0
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 5+
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 6200 + RM 150
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : monthly profit sharing

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: -
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : optical and dental claim
Transport Benefits : Fixed transport allowance given as mentioned above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : none
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Honestly, I am targeting around 90k per year or around 30% increment from my last salary for this transition but I believe this is the best for now as I also want to have an immediate changes.
I believe I start at very low and I will revised back and look what I can do and achieve from here in 2 years.


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Hi, it has been a while.
I would like to share my current career progress.

Programmer - 2017 - 1 year - (RM1700)
Analyst Programmer - 2018 - 6 month - (RM 2300)
Software Engineer- 208 - 8 month - (RM 2500)
Programmer - 2019 - Current  (3 years and 6 month) (RM 3000 -> RM 3500 -> RM 5770)

Starting next year I will be joining a new company.

Job Title : Software Developer
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 0
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 5+
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 6200 + RM 150
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : monthly profit sharing

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: -
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : optical and dental claim
Transport Benefits : Fixed transport allowance given as mentioned above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : none
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Honestly, I am targeting around 90k per year or around 30% increment from my last salary for this transition but I believe this is the best for now as I also want to have an immediate changes.
I believe I start at very low and I will revised back and look what I can do and achieve from here in 2 years.
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Impressive growth, congrats

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Jeez, although my pay is considered high at my age, seeing some of you earning like nearly double than mine... and some even younger... made me rethink my entire life decisions.
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Jeez, although my pay is considered high at my age, seeing some of you earning like nearly double than mine... and some even younger... made me rethink my entire life decisions.
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How high? Just out of curiosity 🤔
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QUOTE(recca89 @ Dec 13 2022, 09:04 PM)
How high? Just out of curiosity 🤔
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Well you can spend some time to scroll back and look at some of the previous posts. But take it with a pinch of salt la its the internet anyway.
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Well you can spend some time to scroll back and look at some of the previous posts. But take it with a pinch of salt la its the internet anyway.
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Yeah. I'm just curious about Leo's income since he mentioned his one is relatively high. 😝
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Job Desciption : Code, Build product, Bug fixes, Web3, little bit Backend Deployment & Linux configurations on aws and many more.
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Years spent in company : 9 months and counting
Company : Software as a services
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 6 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor's with Honours
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Average Working Hours Per Week: 48+- (Sometimes I commit on weekend to solve bugs)

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4500+0
Contractual Bonus (months): None, But can have company token shares
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) :

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Total work from home.
Work From Home Availability: Full
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Flexible but must achieve 8 hours

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : rm6-7k
Growth prospects: Close to as chief tech should do, understanding the flow of agile management, deployment and Web3 blockchain services.
Where I will go from here : Before I hop into a company, I am confidence with my knowledge in most of the prospects, I do not ask help from seniors, but I keep our communication in line so we all know what we needed to do. I am aiming to have leadership role.
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Job Description : Power plant maintenance planning
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Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 8 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Eng
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Average Working Hours : 12 hours/day

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary: 5.5k USD (No tax)
Contractual Bonus (months) : N/A

Benefits (where relevant) : Family medical, dental, medical screening, flight once a year, paid holiday, children education, 3k USD housing Allowance
Transport Benefits : 3k car allowance

Landed this job and visa just settle off. Jumped from o&g operator (small one) doing few different field of planning.

I’m glad listen to people’s advise to stay and target jump to middle east operator. So I stayed here although received different offers from MNC Contractor, namely S and T. Only moved from one operator to other.

Wish can join earlier so that can watch world cup but need to serve 2 month notice period.
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2013 - Associate - construction: 2K
2014 - Executive - facility management: 3.4K
2019 - Executive - manufacturing: 5K
2021 - Sr Executive - facility management: 7K
2022 - Executive - logistic: 9.5K (current)

Job Title : EHS Executive
Job Desciption : Environmental, Health and Safety
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 6 months
Industry : Logistic
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Sr Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master's
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM9,500 + 0
Contractual Bonus (months): none
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 mths average

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Nil
Annual Leaves:20 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Outpatient RM5k p.a
Transport Benefits : Nil
Mobile / Internet / Gadget / Sports Benefits : RM4k p.a (claim basis)
Other Benefits : RM500 e-wallet per month

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Not too sure.
Where I will go from here : Jump after 1-2 years. Managerial position. Kumpul duit, pencen.
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Not bad. Almost 5 figure
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Hi, I'm just sharing the offer that I got in one of Oil and gas company somewhere in middle east country. Unfortunately, I decline the offer due to personal and family reason - need to relocated to the country. Just share it here on what I got.

******* DISCLAIMER: *Value is converted into MYR* ********

Job Title : System Engineer
Job Description : Supporting plant information system within the company (maybe focusing on upstream) - because I've seen there is other position which support their manufacturing (downstream business)
Age : 33
Years spent in company : NA
Company : Oil and Gas
Industry : Oil and gas
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior level
Experience before joining (years) : 7
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor degree in IT
Location : Middle East
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): standard hours (42 per week)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : MYR 22,300 (Base salary) + MYR 2350 (Transport) + MYR14100 (Housing)
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : depend on performance

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: Not sure
Annual Leaves: 38 days
Flexi Working Hours : Maybe

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : A lot, will not go on by one but it is really great
Transport Benefits : MYR 2350
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits : House - MYR 14,100 (monthly)
School for kids (per head, per year) - MYR 52700 (primary) and MYR43500 (pre school) - additional allowance for book, and school transport
Free flight ticket for the whole family once per year to home country - (you could also use it to travel anywhere as they just give a cash and not monitoring where u spend it)
Other benefit - small2 one. But it is great
If salary plus allowance, can get up to MYR40K per month. But of course cost of living there is also high

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I think it is average for expatriate package
Growth prospects : Not sure as I decline it tongue.gif
Where I will go from here : Technical principle, control system, ICS Cyber security - or any role related to level 3- operational technology
* The package above is for married. There are also different package for married but went there alone and single package

This post has been edited by ahms89: Dec 31 2022, 03:45 PM
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Middle East later is syndicate smuggle you to Cambodia or Myanmar.
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Middle East later is syndicate smuggle you to Cambodia or Myanmar.
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Nope.. the one that i got is legit.. i apply though company website.. and went through 2 stage interview. Did not apply through any agent..
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QUOTE(ahms89 @ Dec 24 2022, 11:35 AM)
Hi, I'm just sharing the offer that I got in one of Oil and gas company somewhere in middle east country. Unfortunately, I decline the offer due to personal and family reason - need to relocated to the country. Just share it here on what I got.

******* DISCLAIMER: *Value is converted into MYR* ********

Job Title : System Engineer
Job Description : Supporting plant information system within the company (maybe focusing on upstream) - because I've seen there is other position which support their manufacturing (downstream business)
Age : 33
Years spent in company : NA
Company : Oil and Gas
Industry : Oil and gas
Tenure :
Employment Level : Senior level
Experience before joining (years) : 7
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor degree in IT
Location : Middle East
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): standard hours (42 per week)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : MYR 22,300
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : depend on performance

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: Not sure
Annual Leaves: 38 days
Flexi Working Hours : Maybe

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits :  A lot, will not go on by one but it is really great
Transport Benefits : MYR 2350
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits : House - MYR 14,100 (monthly)
                        School for kids (per head, per year) - MYR 52700 (primary) and MYR43500 (pre school) - additional allowance for book, and school transport
                        Free flight ticket for the whole family once per year to home country - (you could also use it to travel anywhere as they just give a cash and not monitoring where u spend it)
                        Other benefit - small2 one. But it is great
                        If salary plus allowance, can get up to MYR40K per month. But of course cost of living there is also high

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : I think it is average for expatriate package
Growth prospects : Not sure as I decline it tongue.gif
Where I will go from here : Technical principle, control system, ICS Cyber security - or any role related to level 3- operational technology
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Bro mind share ur current salary here in Msia, wonder how much you make that can decline such offer
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Nope.. the one that i got is legit.. i apply though company website.. and went through 2 stage interview. Did not apply through any agent..
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Interesting. Mind sharing the personal reasons you turn down the offer ? Safety ? High risks ? Thanks. I'm always curious with overseas job offers.


















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Interesting. Mind sharing the personal reasons you turn down the offer ? Safety ? High risks ? Thanks. I'm always curious with overseas job offers.
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It is purely family reason. was casually looking and went to the interview.. will definitely apply again in future. smile.gif
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Bro mind share ur current salary here in Msia, wonder how much you make that can decline such offer
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Alhamdulillah.. still manage to get 5 figure salary in Malaysia even though it is not as high as what they offered.. But surely will apply again in future once the family is stable and proper migration plan (my wife also working and some other family matter which prohibit me to migrate at the moment smile.gif .. btw, it is oil and gas company in Qatar

This post has been edited by ahms89: Dec 31 2022, 03:42 PM
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It is purely family reason. was casually looking and went to the interview.. will definitely apply again in future. smile.gif
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I understand. Yes family is important too. Some jobs abit risky & complicated

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Malaysia would be negara maju already if all these were true. Everyone easily 10k above even before 30y.o.

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Malaysia would be negara maju already if all these were true. Everyone easily 10k above even before 30y.o.
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Yes. It's possible. But maybe with chicken rice at rm20 per plate. Char koay teow rm20 per plate. Just like overseas HK for example high salary but high costs of living as well.
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Malaysia would be negara maju already if all these were true. Everyone easily 10k above even before 30y.o.
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Usually only the ones making a comfortable buck are the ones comfortable sharing their earning here....
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Usually only the ones making a comfortable buck are the ones comfortable sharing their earning here....
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I can give you example. Government servants. I have a frenemy currently Gred UF52 something like that ketua penolong Pengarah kanan bla bla bla etc. So I was stalking his FB. Omg he knows it's me. He has all the free time in the world to private all his public posts from many many years ago so I can't view them. So much free time he got. Sometimes I wonder if the tax money I paid is being used to pay his salary, perks, allowance, bonus etc etc. Omg.










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Okay guys, try not to divert from the topic too much. Thank you.
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2011 - 2013 programmer 2200
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2017 - 2018 Project manager 9600 - 12000
2019 - 2020 Head 15000 - 18000
2021 - current C level 47600

Never give up and don't burn the bridge wink.gif work from home since day 1 Malaysia MCO till now. No plan back to office yet.
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One thing I see consistently in malaysians earning high salary here is either they work in IT or Oil and gas.

If you're in boomer industries like mechanical engineering, working in kilang somewhere then jangan haraplah.
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Sharing my IT career path since 21y/o, degree holder

2011 - 2013 programmer 2200
2014 - 2016 IT consultant 4000 - 8000
2017 - 2018 Project manager 9600 - 12000
2019 - 2020 Head 15000 - 18000
2021 - current C level 47600

Never give up and don't burn the bridge wink.gif work from home since day 1 Malaysia MCO till now. No plan back to office yet.
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33 y/o this year?
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33 y/o this year?
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Job Title : Process Engineer
Job Desciption : Remote support refineries in process side of things, troubleshooting issues, optimization projects
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : MNC
Industry : O&G
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry Level
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelors in Chemical Engineering
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 39 Hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM10.5K
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Yes, standard package
Transport Benefits : Transport Allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : No
Other Benefits : Gym, dental. Standard Stuff

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Not sure how do i compare with ppl with similar experience and in other O&G companies. Would like to get ppl's opinion here smile.gif
Growth prospects : Good room for growth
Where I will go from here : Looking out for better opportunities. Benefit wise is just mediocre especially given that it is a O&G MNC.
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Hi all, sincerely hope for your advice here.
I'm 30 years old now with non-programming background and weak communication skill.
Hoping to shift into IT and coding industry as i think i have high interest on the industry but no dare to start switching carrer.

Any guide/advice to share me how should i start?
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 5 2023, 09:56 PM)
Sharing my IT career path since 21y/o, degree holder

2011 - 2013 programmer 2200
2014 - 2016 IT consultant 4000 - 8000
2017 - 2018 Project manager 9600 - 12000
2019 - 2020 Head 15000 - 18000
2021 - current C level 47600

Never give up and don't burn the bridge wink.gif work from home since day 1 Malaysia MCO till now. No plan back to office yet.
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No idea what makes people feel this is troll..... Maybe they aren't up to the level yet
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 9 2023, 07:25 PM)
No idea what makes people feel this is troll..... Maybe they aren't up to the level yet
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Let me tell you a story.

1. When people getting RM3k salary, they don't believe other people can get RM5k.
2. For those people who get RM5k, they doubt people who told them get RM8k.
3. Rm8k people will doubt those who get RM15k, and the story
4. Continue....

Most people think their salaries are good enough or very hard to go up anymore, so when they hear someone give them a number they think they can't achieve, they will have doubts.

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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 9 2023, 07:25 PM)
No idea what makes people feel this is troll..... Maybe they aren't up to the level yet
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teach me master .. care for a coffee and tok ?
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No idea what makes people feel this is troll..... Maybe they aren't up to the level yet
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The salary is in MYR?
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Jan 9 2023, 09:12 PM)
Let me tell you a story.

1. When people getting RM3k salary, they don't believe other people can get RM5k.
2. For those people who get RM5k, they doubt people who told them get RM8k.
3.  Rm8k people will doubt those who get RM15k, and the story
4. Continue....

Most people think their salaries are good enough or very hard to go up anymore, so when they hear someone give them a number they think they can't achieve, they will have doubts.
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Ya, that's why we need more exposure to the another level....

QUOTE(odin88 @ Jan 10 2023, 07:19 AM)
teach me master .. care for a coffee and tok ?
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I don't feel 47k a month = master..... There's many more better package professional

Basically I'm not specialized in one area... I'm more like a "rojak" IT... I involved in web, app, front, backend, server..... And slowly move to management level, lead a team/squad, position myself as a scrum master in early stage, proactively involved in challenging projects and deliverables... Digitalisation, compliance, legal etc... Basically I'm proud on what I did and I believe you have my baby in your phone too...

I'm in bank/insurance line

QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Jan 10 2023, 08:41 AM)
The salary is in MYR?
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No idea what makes people feel this is troll..... Maybe they aren't up to the level yet
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Yes, they normally think that it isn't believable at that amount and here I see mid senior level managers in some MNCs and my industry also earning that amount. Most of the time, they are usually complaining about how much monthly PCB deduction is haha!
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Yes, they normally think that it isn't believable at that amount and here I see mid senior level managers in some MNCs and my industry also earning that amount. Most of the time, they are usually complaining about how much monthly PCB deduction is haha!
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If comparing with those Top C level (MD, GMD level), they earn 6k or more hourly

Meaning they shitting time in toilet earn more than common monthly salary people hahaha.... But people not aware of that


For the PCB part... Close to 12k PCB a month and didn't feel support from gov sad.gif anyway just bersyukur la....
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Sharing my IT career path since 21y/o, degree holder

2011 - 2013 programmer 2200
2014 - 2016 IT consultant 4000 - 8000
2017 - 2018 Project manager 9600 - 12000
2019 - 2020 Head 15000 - 18000
2021 - current C level 47600

Never give up and don't burn the bridge wink.gif work from home since day 1 Malaysia MCO till now. No plan back to office yet.
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All in the same company? Industry?
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heard that better(UM, UTP) unis get higher salary compared to other unis(UiTM). can someone verify if its true. thanks
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heard that better(UM, UTP) unis get higher salary compared to other unis(UiTM). can someone verify if its true. thanks
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2011-2012: Supply Chain – O&G: From RM5.3K~ RM6.3K/month
2013–2014: Assignment abroad– O&G: RM ~40K/month (Salary + Expat Allowance)
2014–2021: Supply Chain (Back in Msia) – O&G: From RM8.5K~RM19.5K/month
2022–Today: Assignment abroad – O&G: RM ~80K/month (Salary + Expat Allowance)

*all are before tax (except the assignment base)
*Same O&G company from 2011 until today

Hope to maintain and continue working on assignment for as long as I can, to save up for retirement. 17 years to go until retirement age (yes, old guy oledi compared to most of you here).
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Job Description : Development design, DevOps, Manage ppl, Almost everything...
Age : 42
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 15 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM18k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 to 1.5 month
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: flexible 3 days per week wfo
Annual Leaves: 14 days
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Job Title : Solution Architect
Job Description : Development design, DevOps, Manage ppl, Almost everything...
Age : 42
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : payment gateway
Industry : financial services
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : mid senior
Experience before joining (years) : 15 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-42 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary  : RM18k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 to 1.5 month
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: flexible 3 days per week wfo
Annual Leaves: 14 days
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mind if I ask? What degree are u majoring?
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 5 2023, 09:56 PM)
Sharing my IT career path since 21y/o, degree holder

2011 - 2013 programmer 2200
2014 - 2016 IT consultant 4000 - 8000
2017 - 2018 Project manager 9600 - 12000
2019 - 2020 Head 15000 - 18000
2021 - current C level 47600

Never give up and don't burn the bridge wink.gif work from home since day 1 Malaysia MCO till now. No plan back to office yet.
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 10 2023, 09:36 PM)
Ya, that's why we need more exposure to the another level....
I don't feel 47k a month = master..... There's many more better package professional

Basically I'm not specialized in one area... I'm more like a "rojak" IT... I involved in web, app, front, backend, server..... And slowly move to management level, lead a team/squad, position myself as a scrum master in early stage, proactively involved in challenging projects and deliverables... Digitalisation, compliance, legal etc... Basically I'm proud on what I did and I believe you have my baby in your phone too...

I'm in bank/insurance line
Yes, Malaysia office (although I work from home) and yes I earn MYR.... Pay PCB like everyone did
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 11 2023, 06:38 PM)
If comparing with those Top C level (MD, GMD level), they earn 6k or more hourly

Meaning they shitting time in toilet earn more than common monthly salary people hahaha.... But people not aware of that
For the PCB part... Close to 12k PCB a month and didn't feel support from gov sad.gif anyway just bersyukur la....
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Congratulations on your achievements! While many are feeling sus I think it's not too far off. I'm in a similar trajectory with you as well but a year younger and probably around your 2020's pay.

Been chilling alot lately but are also wondering if it's about time to push further and penetrate beyond function head into C-levels of technology. I myself is also "rojak IT" as you were.

Any tips sifu? notworthy.gif
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Age : 26
Years spent in company : ~2
Company : MNC
Industry : Construction Consultancy
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3.5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : SG
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 60-70...

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : SG 8380
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2 mths

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Job Title : Strategic Business Analyst
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Age : 26
Years spent in company : ~2
Company : MNC
Industry : Construction Consultancy
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3.5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : SG
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 60-70...

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : SG 8380
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2 mths

Benefits (where relevant) : Transport Allowance : 200/month
Health Benefits :
Other Benefits : 20 Days AL
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QUOTE(kimiaomiao @ Jan 27 2023, 06:13 PM)
Congratulations on your achievements! While many are feeling sus I think it's not too far off. I'm in a similar trajectory with you as well but a year younger and probably around your 2020's pay.

Been chilling alot lately but are also wondering if it's about time to push further and penetrate beyond function head into C-levels of technology. I myself is also "rojak IT" as you were.

Any tips sifu?  notworthy.gif
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Job Title : Head of Community
Job Desciption :

- Set up and implement Community Strategy and Operation as well as team management and mentorship towards corporate objectives and growth
- Guide and develop community content calendar and planning with the team
- Expansion and liaison of partnerships and cooperative initiatives.
- Regular reporting to the wider organization on current community trends, sentiment, and channel
performance; use data to inform recommendations for ongoing community outreach initiatives, messaging, promotions, and operations.

Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6 months & 2 month & 1 month
Company : Global
Industry : 2 Fintech - Blockchain , 1 Consulting Firm
Tenure : Contract basis / Contractor
Employment Level : Head / Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : STPM / Pre-U
Location : Remote
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 72+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :
1st Company:
USD80k/annum

2nd Company:
USD60k/annum

3rd Company:
Taking equity, no fixed salary

Total: USD140k/annum

Contractual Bonus (months):
1st company: 20% token release: worth $50k for now. Subsequently monthly unlock for 60 months: worth $200k for now

2nd company: $5k stable coin, $5k token if hit the milestone 
mths

3rd company: no bonuses, once a project goes live will take the equity.

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: remote
Annual Leaves: unlimited PTO
Flexi Working Hours : yes, just get the work done and hit the metric

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Not available
Transport Benefits : not available
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : not available
Other Benefits : not available

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Consider high paid
Growth prospects : Yes, community are one of most important for any company or project in blockchain industry, thus the sky is the limit

Where I will go from here : founder or co-founder for Fintech project
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Congrats cuddlybubblyteddy, those are fantastic prospects you have there! I hear about more people jumping into this space even despite the down market smile.gif

I myself would like to consider opportunities in this space, but I'm concerned since crypto/blockchain is considered a risky industry here from what I've read. I have a couple of questions on this, if you don't mind helping to answer them I would be most grateful:

1. Since you are paid in crypto, I presume at some point you have to convert it to fiat to spend it. How do you do this, do you convert crypto > USD > MYR?
2. Since BNM / SC have marked crypto industry as risky and your annual income is high, your bank would have noticed when you transferred money in. Did they call you up to ask where the funds came from and if so, what sort of docs should one have from their foreign employer for this?
3. Is there chance of bank freezing your MYR account since its from crypto?
4. If you work with crypto/blockchain companies, but they pay you in USD/EUR/GBP instead of crypto, would you still be flagged by the banks for working in the industry?
5. Can you recommend banks in Malaysia that are crypto friendly?
6. Can you use the earnings from crypto to build / improve your credit rating with the banks so you can get higher CC limit, car loan, housing loan etc?
7. How would one start to join the crypto community in Malaysia? Any telegram groups, forums, meetups in KL that you can recommend?
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Job Title : QS (Contract Executive)
Job Desciption : Post Contract
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 1 years 3 months
Company : Local Main Contractor Company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Contract Basis
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in QS
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 6 days full day (8am-5pm)

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4,750 + Allowance RM300
Contractual Bonus (months): 1.5mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Where I will go from here : I would like to change my job field but I still lack of idea what can I work other than QS job.
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Hi, may I know have you successfully change to a new job or change your career path? Do you think you are underpaid since with your current years of experience, you should be at least an Assistant Manager with salary more than 6k. Im not sure whether you are underpaid or the company you are staying is paying you lower than market price.

I am in the same field with you with 2+ years experience and my company is already paying the similar amount as yours so Im trying to research on the pay before considering a job change since Im mainly doing tendering only
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Jan 14 2023, 11:35 PM)
Yup, bank/ins
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thank you
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well deserved pay ya.. so jealous
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i think all new positions that are posted here should include location as well...
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QUOTE(hlyh1230 @ Feb 17 2023, 04:05 PM)
i think all new positions that are posted here should include location as well...
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Jan 9 2023, 10:12 PM)
Let me tell you a story.

1. When people getting RM3k salary, they don't believe other people can get RM5k.
2. For those people who get RM5k, they doubt people who told them get RM8k.
3.  Rm8k people will doubt those who get RM15k, and the story
4. Continue....

Most people think their salaries are good enough or very hard to go up anymore, so when they hear someone give them a number they think they can't achieve, they will have doubts.
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yeah this is unbelievable actually
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Need to ask, i'm going to get an offer from a GLC. I heard GLCs (state owned company) follow a pay scale so salary, perks etc cant be negotiated?
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QUOTE(anndroid @ Mar 8 2023, 05:01 PM)
Need to ask, i'm going to get an offer from a GLC. I heard GLCs (state owned company) follow a pay scale so salary, perks etc cant be negotiated?
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No such thing can't negotiate salary, but yes usually there is a scale they won't deviate from much.
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Industry : consultant
Tenure : Perm
Employment Level : junior
Experience before joining (years) : 3 + 9 (intern) months
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How did you get from 18k to a big jump to 47k ya? Any tips and tricks? I think in IT especially in banks and insurance line, getting 18k is not that unbelievable, in fact I am getting around there as well. But I am not sure what is the next big jump that I can go to..perhaps becoming Architect or going to full senior management role?
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QUOTE(nazztradamus @ Jan 26 2023, 09:13 AM)
Sharing my career progress:

2004-2009: Project Engineer - Automotive: From RM1.8k~RM2.8K/month
2009–2010: Sabbatical, quit job and did MSc abroad in UK: RM 0K (used up all my life savings and work 3 odd-jobs daily after class to survive, i.e. academic fees + room rental + food)
2011-2012: Supply Chain – O&G: From RM5.3K~ RM6.3K/month
2013–2014: Assignment abroad– O&G: RM ~40K/month (Salary + Expat Allowance)
2014–2021: Supply Chain (Back in Msia) – O&G: From RM8.5K~RM19.5K/month
2022–Today: Assignment abroad – O&G: RM ~80K/month (Salary + Expat Allowance)

*all are before tax (except the assignment base)
*Same O&G company from 2011 until today

Hope to maintain and continue working on assignment for as long as I can, to save up for retirement. 17 years to go until retirement age (yes, old guy oledi compared to most of you here).
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do you mind sharing what MSc you did and how you apply into O&G, i.e. via their online website using overseas address etc.
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How did you get from 18k to a big jump to 47k ya? Any tips and tricks? I think in IT especially in banks and insurance line, getting 18k is not that unbelievable, in fact I am getting around there as well. But I am not sure what is the next big jump that I can go to..perhaps becoming Architect or going to full senior management role?
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Both, jump into the system architecture in your company, understand every integration and purposes (best if you could understand the purposes of every fields), this is important especially when you step into management board meetings, you will be the one that has a SAY besides director.

You need to understand that you are currently in a very good position, have the chance to meet and speak with management people which others don't, please make use of this chance and impression is very important. You doesn't need to be fluent in specific language but you must be committed to what you have agreed and presented.

For me, I started from investment banking, after get used to the investment platform, I extend my knowledge to core banking which I would have exposure on CASA, FD, Cards etc products (including insurance), and there's where I started to take bigger responsibility and important role wink.gif Maintain good relationship with my GMD, MD, C levels and ground level staff, I have been so many taichi experience with these fella. Find your way to overcome this. Project management isn't rocket science, main issue is people biggrin.gif

With above effort and opportunity, I managed to get such hike in terms of salary, position, and exposure.

Hope it helps
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Anyone know to whom do we report if an employer hasn't paid your salary after resigning? Jabatan Buruh? IRD? as im at a loss now.

Also the dept we report to must be local to where the company is located or can be reported to any other district/state ones?
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May I ask what will be the future for a ITDS Service Analyst?
Recently just passed ITIL foundation, will be taking MS courses..

Got offer to join business development team, but would like to hear opinions from the crowd.
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Job Title : Assistant Store Manager
Job Desciption : maximise customer service, maximise profit and staff development
Age : 28
Years spent in company :1 year
Company : MNC
Industry : retail fast fashion
Tenure : full time
Employment Level : manager level
Experience before joining (years) : 3 months in sales
Highest paper qualification/ education background :degree
Location : Malaysia, will keep on transfer from branch to branch
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 48 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM6600
Contractual Bonus (months): mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1.5mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : no
Work From Home Availability: 0 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 16 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) : fast career growth but very pressure since they push you for promotion
Health Benefits : medical insurance
Transport Benefits : less than rm400 allowance
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : none
Other Benefits : house allowance, staff purchase.

High salary as fresh grad but salary still not enough since living in city and has to spend so much monwy on transportation. Hopefully can find anything that is at least got work from home and 7k salary. Work is quite stressful since working hours sometime very long up to 60 hours per week but depends on how busy it is. Working hours is by shift. Working 5 days a week. A lot of micromanagement since it is retail work. No flexibility at all i would say. Retail life is quite bad. I ask a lot of my friends who work in retail they say thee same thing
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QUOTE(MoneySolve @ Mar 28 2023, 09:51 AM)
Both, jump into the system architecture in your company, understand every integration and purposes (best if you could understand the purposes of every fields), this is important especially when you step into management board meetings, you will be the one that has a SAY besides director.

You need to understand that you are currently in a very good position, have the chance to meet and speak with management people which others don't, please make use of this chance and impression is very important. You doesn't need to be fluent in specific language but you must be committed to what you have agreed and presented.

For me, I started from investment banking, after get used to the investment platform, I extend my knowledge to core banking which I would have exposure on CASA, FD, Cards etc products (including insurance), and there's where I started to take bigger responsibility and important role wink.gif Maintain good relationship with my GMD, MD, C levels and ground level staff, I have been so many taichi experience with these fella. Find your way to overcome this. Project management isn't rocket science, main issue is people biggrin.gif

With above effort and opportunity, I managed to get such hike in terms of salary, position, and exposure.

Hope it helps
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Thanks for sharing. Although it might be a contradiction but I actually don't like to deal with people and that is why I mostly go for technical path albeit I know at most point of the time, there is no way to avoid interacting with others..whether developers, stakeholders and managements. I just can't blow water as fluent as those managers that I know.

At the moment, I can see my next growth is to become an enterprise or data architect but I don't know what's beyond that.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:47 PM)
Thanks for sharing. Although it might be a contradiction but I actually don't like to deal with people and that is why I mostly go for technical path albeit I know at most point of the time, there is no way to avoid interacting with others..whether developers, stakeholders and managements. I just can't blow water as fluent as those managers that I know.

At the moment, I can see my next growth is to become an enterprise or data architect but I don't know what's beyond that.
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No worries, everyone has their own preference, character and way of working. Just do what you capable of and focus wink.gif
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Hi all, I would like to hear some opinion/advice here especially from the high achievers in IT industry.

I'm currently taking around 20k as a senior architect in a MNC. The job and company is good but I feel like there's not much progress for the past few years. I used to be very motivated to climb the corporate ladder but lately I feel like I'm burning out. I also tried to start some businesses but not really doing well, I failed a few attempts and my current one is only getting 1-2k profits per month.

Should I continue to climb higher in the corporate or focus on building up my business? What is the salary ceiling for a solution architect in Malaysia?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Xenopher @ Apr 12 2023, 06:12 PM)
Hi all, I would like to hear some opinion/advice here especially from the high achievers in IT industry.

I'm currently taking around 20k as a senior architect in a MNC. The job and company is good but I feel like there's not much progress for the past few years. I used to be very motivated to climb the corporate ladder but lately I feel like I'm burning out. I also tried to start some businesses but not really doing well, I failed a few attempts and my current one is only getting 1-2k profits per month.

Should I continue to climb higher in the corporate or focus on building up my business? What is the salary ceiling for a solution architect in Malaysia?

Thanks in advance.
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Being a solution architect myself and looking at resumes for architect I would say the ceiling is around 25k. Anything beyond that will require you to lead a team or being the HoD for architect department. Again, that is roughly the price based on what I observed over the past 6 years. There are a few different scenarios too:

- commission if you are able to sell a solution
- if you are an expat
- super high achievers

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Job Title : Doctor
Job Description :
Age : Early 30s
Years spent in company :
Company :
Industry : Medical
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) :
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : 25000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Coms ranging from 2k-10k depending on market

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Work as private GP or what bro?
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Experience (Total) : ~3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree dropout
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45~50

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Basic Salary : 16k myr
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QUOTE(Ohfv9 @ Apr 15 2023, 10:14 PM)
Job Title : Technical Analyst
Job Description :
Age : 27
Years spent in company : ~3
Company : MNC
Industry :
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree dropout
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45~50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : 16k myr
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Depends

Benefits (where relevant) : Flexible
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I assume you don’t do software development? Are you more of a solution architect?
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I assume you don’t do software development? Are you more of a solution architect?
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Yes, more to project management.
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QUOTE(Ohfv9 @ Apr 15 2023, 10:14 PM)
Job Title : Technical Analyst
Job Description :
Age : 27
Years spent in company : ~3
Company : MNC
Industry :
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree dropout
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45~50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : 16k myr
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Depends

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Malaysia where?

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post Apr 22 2023, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Ohfv9 @ Apr 15 2023, 10:14 PM)
Job Title : Technical Analyst
Job Description :
Age : 27
Years spent in company : ~3
Company : MNC
Industry :
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree dropout
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45~50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : 16k myr
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Depends

Benefits (where relevant) : Flexible
Health Benefits : In & outpatient
Other Benefits : Standard
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QUOTE(Ohfv9 @ Apr 17 2022, 03:49 PM)
I’m 26 this year with 6.5k gross. Currently drive a Axia and bought a condo 2 years before for own stay.

Thinking to opt new car (Civic) but heart as me get another condo for investment.

Any thoughts?

Why the f Kopitiam deleted my post? New joiner don’t deserved to open topic?
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Very impressive for 1 year gap


Unfortunately... at the same time I also smell bs yawn.gif

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Very impressive for 1 year gap
Unfortunately... at the same time I also smell bs  yawn.gif
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Hi all, sharing my progression here as a dotnet software developer.
My background is not IT but I started my career in IT as a software developer.
I am a Mechanical Engineering degree graduate from TARUC (Setapak).

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)

Sorry for the soooo abstracted information, just in case my colleague will see my post here.
A bit more context, all these are in Malaysia, I'm not doing remote job and converting currency (some people like to convert, for example from SGD to MYR as their earning).

Sharing this for the benefits of other software developers, there are a few companies I know that they could afford RM 10K monthly for people who have less than 5 years of working experience.

The annual bonus I got from these companies is average 1.5 months.
I am grateful with what I have now at my current age (below 30 years old).
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Hello all, would like to update again this year as I’ve gotten a new opportunity last month.

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)
2023: 18K -> 24K (new job)

Recently join an MNC at KLCC area, they are one of the top 10 players in their industry. The role is mostly in management with little to no technical implementation. Not sure I’ll like it but no harm trying.

Let’s see how. Will update again if any changes in the near future.


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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Apr 27 2023, 12:26 AM)
Hello all, would like to update again this year as I’ve gotten a new opportunity last month.

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)
2023: 18K -> 24K (new job)

Recently join an MNC at KLCC area, they are one of the top 10 players in their industry. The role is mostly in management with little to no technical implementation. Not sure I’ll like it but no harm trying.

Let’s see how. Will update again if any changes in the near future.
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Is your role still the same in this most recent move? I would assume you will have to take up some leadership aka management role with that pay.
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Is your role still the same in this most recent move? I would assume you will have to take up some leadership aka management role with that pay.
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Hi, my role is different now, the previous role is more technical.
My current role is in different industry and at end-user side now. Mostly dealing with business users and clients.
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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Apr 27 2023, 10:45 AM)
Hi, my role is different now, the previous role is more technical.
My current role is in different industry and at end-user side now. Mostly dealing with business users and clients.
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How many reporting to you?
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Hi, at this point of time, 2 IT teams and an IT manager.
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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Apr 27 2023, 12:26 AM)
Hello all, would like to update again this year as I’ve gotten a new opportunity last month.

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)
2023: 18K -> 24K (new job)

Recently join an MNC at KLCC area, they are one of the top 10 players in their industry. The role is mostly in management with little to no technical implementation. Not sure I’ll like it but no harm trying.

Let’s see how. Will update again if any changes in the near future.
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Hi could you pm me those are the companies willing to pay more than 10k?
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Hi could you pm me those are the companies willing to pay more than 10k?
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Every MNC is capable of paying more than 10k. Even local companies too. The difference is on your role/skillsets/what value you can bring to the company.
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Hi, at this point of time, 2 IT teams and an IT manager.
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do you mind to share what are the skillset in high demand? i can see there are certain skills pays well.
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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Apr 27 2023, 12:26 AM)
Hello all, would like to update again this year as I’ve gotten a new opportunity last month.

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)
2023: 18K -> 24K (new job)

Recently join an MNC at KLCC area, they are one of the top 10 players in their industry. The role is mostly in management with little to no technical implementation. Not sure I’ll like it but no harm trying.

Let’s see how. Will update again if any changes in the near future.
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Congrat rclxms.gif May I know the position title and some job scope for this new job? notworthy.gif
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Job Title : Planning & Development Executive
Job Desciption : Project management, Design & Planning, Submission
Age : 29
Company : Developer company
Industry : Construction & Property
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Architecture
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 46

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5500
Contractual Bonus (months): not sure, just joined
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : not sure, just joined

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : no

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
I have been struggling in career for this two years as I realize the property industry is so underpaid and not much career prospect as compared to other industries like Manufacturing or IT. Not to mention no flexibility at all for working from home, or time arrangement.

I myself do not have too much interest in property and I was actually thinking of switching industry last year after I resigned and move from JB to Png. However I had too many choices and my first trial to join education field failed drastically and out of anxiety I jumped back to property field to cut me from my misery. My strength is in management and research, which is why all field seems same to me, but to start up in a new field usually wont provide management role, and the starting salary would be low.

Currently just work at this new joined company and continue to explore other career and field after working hours, hopefully can find a clearer path as I go.
Any suggestions or comments to me, am welcome to hear out.

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Job Title : Data Engineer
Job Desciption : Data pipeline maintenance/improvement and business development
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 0
Company : US based
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : slightly above junior level, from what i've heard
Experience before joining (years) : Less than 2 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : currently doing Msc Data Science
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 hours (HR mentioned it is flexible, hopefully it is lesser than 45 not more than 45  devil.gif)

Monetary Payout
-Probation 5k-6k, review after confirmed

Benefits (where relevant) : you can opt to work from home or go office wherever you feel comfortable
Health Benefits : AIA Employee packages that include dental claim/clinical claim/standard employee life insurance
Transport Benefits : Included in monetary payout, employee parking
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Annual RM1,500 claimable
Other Benefits : performance based bonus (I heard it's monthly basis, but i think should be annual review), unlimited paid time off, minimum suggest (force) you to take 20 AL
Some update over here, recently resigned due to various negative impacts. Resigned without offer while having some interviews going on.

Went through some interviews and tests, got offered for all the interviews and picked fintech startup.

Hopefully it won't behave like banking industry, quite disappointed with the management decisions since I really like my current job and it is my first formal job after graduating innocent.gif
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some update after staying alive for 2 years as Data Engineer

recently got increment that pushed me to 8k-ish

Economy wasn't good hence bonus also negligible but then bonus is bonus so no hard feeling (rant a bit lor) blush.gif

anyway, recently applied a lot of web3 and defi related foreign company that offers fully remote job and already in interview process wub.gif
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QUOTE(AnAngel65 @ May 18 2023, 02:37 PM)
Job Title : Planning & Development Executive
Job Desciption : Project management, Design & Planning, Submission
Age : 29
Company : Developer company
Industry : Construction & Property
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Architecture
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 46

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5500
Contractual Bonus (months): not sure, just joined
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : not sure, just joined

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : no

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
I have been struggling in career for this two years as I realize the property industry is so underpaid and not much career prospect as compared to other industries like Manufacturing or IT. Not to mention no flexibility at all for working from home, or time arrangement.

I myself do not have too much interest in property and I was actually thinking of switching industry last year after I resigned and move from JB to Png. However I had too many choices and my first trial to join education field failed drastically and out of anxiety I jumped back to property field to cut me from my misery. My strength is in management and research, which is why all field seems same to me, but to start up in a new field usually wont provide management role, and the starting salary would be low.

Currently just work at this new joined company and continue to explore other career and field after working hours, hopefully can find a clearer path as I go.
Any suggestions or comments to me, am welcome to hear out.
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ever consider of product manager whereby you manage product and research on how to make it better?

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ever consider of product manager whereby you manage product and research on how to make it better?
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Interesting suggestion, I did come across this career but it is not in my exploration list, how's the career prospect of a product manager in Malaysia? In the sense of working remotely?
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Job Title : Doctor
Job Description :
Age : Early 30s
Years spent in company :
Company :
Industry : Medical
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) :
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : 25000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Coms ranging from 2k-10k depending on market

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : -
Other Benefits : 14 Days AL
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Consultant?
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QUOTE(AnAngel65 @ May 19 2023, 08:57 AM)
Interesting suggestion, I did come across this career but it is not in my exploration list, how's the career prospect of a product manager in Malaysia? In the sense of working remotely?
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depends on which industry and what level of risk you are willing to take, i would say fintech and web3 are the most rewarding in asia region now for (based on my personal experience) and they are okay-ish with fully remote if this is what you are looking at

i got a bit bored on staying at the environment recently hence planning to look for a remote job that pays in ahem 3x ahem currency that would allow me to travel and work around the world for maybe a year or two

edit

talking about product manager, it can be very challenging if your product has direct customer impact; there are also internal product that mostly created to syiok-sendiri

from what I've see in my current company, customer facing PM can be very stressful but i think those who are workaholic will like it a lot lut. Basically what PM does is translate technical features from engineers to the higher ups and clients. So far i have seen some became either non-technical solution architects or director of products that manage multiple products/product managers.

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depends on which industry and what level of risk you are willing to take, i would say fintech and web3 are the most rewarding in asia region now for (based on my personal experience) and they are okay-ish with fully remote if this is what you are looking at

i got a bit bored on staying at the environment recently hence planning to look for a remote job that pays in ahem 3x ahem currency that would allow me to travel and work around the world for maybe a year or two

edit

talking about product manager, it can be very challenging if your product has direct customer impact; there are also internal product that mostly created to syiok-sendiri

from what I've see in my current company, customer facing PM can be very stressful but i think those who are workaholic will like it a lot lut. Basically what PM does is translate technical features from engineers to the higher ups and clients. So far i have seen some became either non-technical solution architects or director of products that manage multiple products/product managers.
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Yup I can see the prospect in these field you mentioned, and yes especially on the remote and the currency side hahaha. Switching from Architecture/Construction to IT is somewhat a fresh start, a totally non related field. I would have to brace myself for at least 2 years of learning and lower income and a lot of learning on new knowledge.

Product manager though has some transferrable skills from my current field and career, but still is quite a broad title since one can land at any product/company/field.


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QUOTE(ratiuG @ Apr 27 2023, 12:26 AM)
Hello all, would like to update again this year as I’ve gotten a new opportunity last month.

My monthly gross salary in RM (not including allowances, only base) progression:
2016 (started in Dec): 3K
2017: 3.3K (confirmation) -> 3.6K
2018: 3.8K -> 6K (promotion)
2019: 6.5K
2020: 6.7K -> 8.1K (new job)
2021: 10K (new job)
2022: 16K (new job)
2023: 18K -> 24K (new job)

Recently join an MNC at KLCC area, they are one of the top 10 players in their industry. The role is mostly in management with little to no technical implementation. Not sure I’ll like it but no harm trying.

Let’s see how. Will update again if any changes in the near future.
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hi sir, any tips on job hopping? currently have 2 years exp in SAP, 1 year SAP support, 1 year ABAP. will join 3rd company next month. Thanks!

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Congrats cuddlybubblyteddy, those are fantastic prospects you have there! I hear about more people jumping into this space even despite the down market smile.gif

I myself would like to consider opportunities in this space, but I'm concerned since crypto/blockchain is considered a risky industry here from what I've read. I have a couple of questions on this, if you don't mind helping to answer them I would be most grateful:

1. Since you are paid in crypto, I presume at some point you have to convert it to fiat to spend it. How do you do this, do you convert crypto > USD > MYR?
-P2P platform. Bybit, Binance, OkX, Huobi.
- through friends sometimes

2. Since BNM / SC have marked crypto industry as risky and your annual income is high, your bank would have noticed when you transferred money in. Did they call you up to ask where the funds came from and if so, what sort of docs should one have from their foreign employer for this?
Never got this problem.. I did like rm50k on certain day. transfer in/out .. didn’t get any call.
3. Is there chance of bank freezing your MYR account since its from crypto?
No, just make sure all your trf doesn’t state crypto or exchanges name
4. If you work with crypto/blockchain companies, but they pay you in USD/EUR/GBP instead of crypto, would you still be flagged by the banks for working in the industry?
No, I receive in SGD at Singapore account for some payment.
5. Can you recommend banks in Malaysia that are crypto friendly?
No bank in Malaysia is crypto friendly lol

6. Can you use the earnings from crypto to build / improve your credit rating with the banks so you can get higher CC limit, car loan, housing loan etc?
There is a way to route this. Negotiate with the company to hire a HR BPO, example Papaya Global. Papaya Global will arrange all the EPF, Taxes, and salary in MYR for you under their company. One of project did that for me, after taxes monthly rm33k (Malaysia tax is sad)
Only this way you can get higher CC and get loan

7. How would one start to join the crypto community in Malaysia? Any telegram groups, forums, meetups in KL that you can recommend?
They are cryptocurrency thread on forum.lowyat.net
You can start from there.

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Life has been busy, some changes to my career as well.

I resigned from all 3 project that paid total usd140k, joined an Australia company for USD144k/annum with USD30k/year equity’s

However I had some health condition, decided to quit as well and since then has been a staying home dad for past 6 months. Recently another company in Singapore reach out and still In discussions (basic package: sgd18k-sgd20k/month)

For your questions, let me response.

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QUOTE(AnAngel65 @ May 22 2023, 08:49 AM)
Yup I can see the prospect in these field you mentioned, and yes especially on the remote and the currency side hahaha. Switching from Architecture/Construction to IT is somewhat a fresh start, a totally non related field. I would have to brace myself for at least 2 years of learning and lower income and a lot of learning on new knowledge.

Product manager though has some transferrable skills from my current field and career, but still is quite a broad title since one can land at any product/company/field.
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Hi, I am in similar industry and totally feel what you are going through...
Perhaps you can send your resume to Randstad and see what kind of job vacancy they are having....
Very sorry to tell you that frequent job hopping and getting Ar chartered are the ways to get better salary package....
Kindly refer to the post below as well....
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1788927/+3400


Lastly, all the best in your future endeavour....

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Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : ~3 years in direct competitor telco infra (total working experience: 4 yrs)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Undergrad
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-43 hrs per week

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 8200 + RM800 Fixed allowances for parking, mobile and broadband
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Avg 1-3 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : work from home is allowed
Annual Leaves: 16 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Life and medical insurance
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Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : fixed allowance for mobile
Other Benefits : N/A

salary progression for those curious
24 yo: RM3.6k
25 yo: RM4.0k (new company)
26 yo: RM4.3k (increment)
27 yo: RM4.9k (increment + promotion)
28 yo: RM5.5k (increment) > RM5.9k (internal job alignment) > RM9.0k (switch to current company)
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Job Desciption : Core banking system support manager
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 9
Company :
Industry : Banking
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11000
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4-6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours available but not really applicable as you work around the clock if required
Work From Home Availability: 3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited in patient and dental, life insurance, bi annual medical checkup, limited traditional medicine coverage.
Transport Benefits : free parking at office?
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : nope
Other Benefits : Company resort around the country, trainings and certification covered, from time to time give out good freebies, annual book allowance.

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Not much prospect here, as the promotional gap is low.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Not much room for growth
Where I will go from here : Planning to go to a less critical role and maybe look at risk and compliance roles
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Job Desciption : Semicon designer
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 2
Company :
Industry : Semicon
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 19000
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-3 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Flexible
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Typical dental/optical/medical
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Im just an average Joe that is jumping around. Recently the semicon industry is quite hot, those that excel should be making a lot more than me.

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QUOTE(principaleng @ Jun 30 2023, 03:45 PM)
Job Title : Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Semicon designer
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 2
Company :
Industry : Semicon
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 19000
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-3 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Flexible
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Typical dental/optical/medical
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Im just an average Joe that is jumping around. Recently the semicon industry is quite hot, those that excel should be making a lot more than me.
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Wow, really very good pay!
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QUOTE(principaleng @ Jun 30 2023, 03:45 PM)
Job Title : Design Engineer
Job Desciption : Semicon designer
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 2
Company :
Industry : Semicon
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 19000
Contractual Bonus (months): 0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-3 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Flexible
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Typical dental/optical/medical
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Im just an average Joe that is jumping around. Recently the semicon industry is quite hot, those that excel should be making a lot more than me.
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Are you considered a senior there? The pay is very good. Congrats.
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Are you considered a senior there? The pay is very good. Congrats.
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Yup, already quite a senior level before jumping to this company.

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Hi, I would like to know what kind of job can make annual income above RM800 ~ RM1.2mil annually? CEO?Specialist?
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Hi, I would like to know what kind of job can make annual income above RM800 ~ RM1.2mil annually? CEO?Specialist?
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Yes, some CEO's as well as C-Levels make that amount, but it also depends on the size of the company and their renumeration package. Most of them get a mix between cash and shares.

Other roles also include managing partners, managing directors, partners at professional firms (law, accounting, etc..etc..).

Those in Oil & Gas as well get high pay especially roles which do have a bit of risk involved with it (e.g. offshore work), management also get paid quite well and within those ranges you mentioned as well and you don't need to be in the C-level to make that much.

Specialist doctors as well make that much and more.

Insurance agency owners as well can make that amount or depending on your number of downlines you have and how you get them to be productive.

Country sales manager for various industries as well also make that amount, depends of course on the sales total amount and revenues for the country.

The ones that I see the most common who make that amount are usually business owners, not through a salary that their own company pay them (because of the high tax) but through dividends from the company instead. And no, I am not talking about the large corporate companies, I am talking about people who run a few mechanic shops or tyre shops, logistics shops, restaurants/cafe/F&B, and many more from manufacturing and services (manpower, consultancy, etc..etc..).

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What do you guys think should be the way to negotiate salary with your new company?

I am jumping to a company that has a reduction of 10 days AL compared to before, lower epf employer contribution, lower medical.

Should I ask for 30% of my basic and fix allowance or take into consideration the AL and epf contribution as well?

I am thinking of asking for 40% but due to the company being a little cost efficient I am worried of losing the job opportunity.
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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Jul 9 2023, 02:54 PM)
What do you guys think should be the way to negotiate salary with your new company?

I am jumping to a company that has a reduction of 10 days AL compared to before, lower epf employer contribution, lower medical.

Should I ask for 30% of my basic and fix allowance or take into consideration the AL and epf contribution as well?

I am thinking of asking for 40% but due to the company being a little cost efficient I am worried of losing the job opportunity.
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I think it's no harm to ask for more. For me, I always ask for the increment that I think I am comfortable with, as you will be the one making the move, moving to a new environment, and bearing the risk that things may not work out the way you expect it to be.

If they cannot pay what you are asking, they will lower down your ask. It's part of the entire negotiation process.
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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Jul 9 2023, 02:54 PM)
What do you guys think should be the way to negotiate salary with your new company?

I am jumping to a company that has a reduction of 10 days AL compared to before, lower epf employer contribution, lower medical.

Should I ask for 30% of my basic and fix allowance or take into consideration the AL and epf contribution as well?

I am thinking of asking for 40% but due to the company being a little cost efficient I am worried of losing the job opportunity.
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For 10 days AL
Assume 20 days working per month on average including PH, AL, Medical

You should ask for 10/(240/annum) more.
Which is roughly 4% increment for that aspects.
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Hi, I would like to know what kind of job can make annual income above RM800 ~ RM1.2mil annually? CEO?Specialist?
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this question hahahahahaha

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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Jun 30 2023, 11:27 AM)
Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Core banking system support manager
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 9
Company :
Industry : Banking
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11000
Contractual Bonus (months):  0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4-6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours available but not really applicable as you work around the clock if required
Work From Home Availability: 3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited in patient and dental, life insurance, bi annual medical checkup, limited traditional medicine coverage.
Transport Benefits : free parking at office?
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : nope
Other Benefits : Company resort around the country, trainings and certification covered, from time to time give out good freebies, annual book allowance.

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Not much prospect here, as the promotional gap is low.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Not much room for growth
Where I will go from here : Planning to go to a less critical role and maybe look at risk and compliance roles
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May I know what is your current job grade? Manager, AVP, VP? And since how many years you've been in the current job grade/rank?
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QUOTE(viruz @ Jul 3 2023, 12:11 PM)
Hi, I would like to know what kind of job can make annual income above RM800 ~ RM1.2mil annually? CEO?Specialist?
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Yes, but it also depends on:

1. Seniority
2. Field of specialty (an anaesthetist or an emergency physician will never achieve the same level of pay as an interventional cardiologist or an oncologist)
3. Private vs public sector (private >>> public, obviously)
4. Where you practice medicine (I can only speak for myself, but in my experience, Singapore > Australia > Malaysia)
5. Whether you get foreign patients or not
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Any good semiconductor company to jump to after working one year at one of the big semiconductor industry? What is the expected salary?
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front end or back end?
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post Jul 16 2023, 04:13 PM

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Has anyone here not fully recovered from COVID 19 pay cuts yet?

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May I know what is your current job grade? Manager, AVP, VP? And since how many years you've been in the current job grade/rank?
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My company is a little different. There is no AVP n VP level.
I am at manager level. Been in the position for a year.
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My company is a little different. There is no AVP n VP level.
I am at manager level. Been in the position for a year.
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then what is the next position after manager? general manager, assistant GM, senior manager or what?
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then what is the next position after manager? general manager, assistant GM, senior manager or what?
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Director level after manager. Not a lot of jumps for my company.
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Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Works on projects in C# and Angular
Age : 27
Years spent in company : almost 5 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Fintech (working for banking facilities)
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0 (since after graduate and internship)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4.7k
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 2-3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, health screening(RM250), dental & optical (total RM500)
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Under Average? (only know during 5 years from 3K to 4.7K and yet to get a promotion)
Growth prospects : growth has limited in this industry, maybe have to try another industry.
Where I will go from here : Not sure need to jump or stay for the promotion (senior software engineer) next year.
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QUOTE(lzx24 @ Jul 25 2023, 02:37 PM)
Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Works on projects in C# and Angular
Age : 27
Years spent in company : almost 5 years
Company : MNC
Industry : Fintech (working for banking facilities)
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 0 (since after graduate and internship)
Highest paper qualification/ education background :  Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 4.7k
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 2-3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, health screening(RM250), dental & optical (total RM500)
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Under Average? (only know during 5 years from 3K to 4.7K and yet to get a promotion)
Growth prospects : growth has limited in this industry, maybe have to try another industry.
Where I will go from here : Not sure need to jump or stay for the promotion (senior software engineer) next year.
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Switch jobs after you get your promotion
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Wow...See so many youngsters get so high salary makes me a bit depressed. but I am somewhat satisfied with my current arrangement

Job Title : Sales Exec
Job Desciption :
Age : 30
Years spent in company : few months
Company : Small cap company listed on Bursa
Industry : Chemicals
Tenure :
Employment Level :
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Engineering degree
Location : KL/ PJ mostly but may travel all over malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 35

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5400 + 800 transport allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : dunno how much because just joined
Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Meet client a lot so hours are considered flexible
Work From Home Availability: X days in a month
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : quite flexible. Just need do some paper work in office once in a while

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : insurance and medical. 400 per year for optical and dental
Transport Benefits : claim toll, parking and petrol aside from allowance stated above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : company phone and data plan
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry :For sales exec I think this pay is decent for the amount of work that needs to be done and WLB
Growth prospects : Development of new products is harder than I thought. Requires a lot of communication skills and patience. Those who say AI can replace sales and business development easily really dreaming. Your client can reject the AI more easily than a human. I believe there is always a strong demand for sales, marketing and business development
Where I will go from here : Depends on my performance in current place for this few years. Hope to go to leadership or management position in 5 more years.

Some background:
I started working in 2016 where I was some kuli in manufacturing.
2016 pay was RM2900. When I quit in 2019 it was 3500.

Then I joined a sales and service company (MNC)
The pay was only RM3800. But I took it because I was sick of the previous company and new company also offered me company car.
When I quit in 2022 because of crazy middle management my pay was RM4400. I would say I missed out on big pay jump in this second job. But I saved quite a bit as I did not have much commitment at that time. Work load was also less due to MCO shortly after I joined.

Then from that RM4400 jump to my current RM6200. I don't really hope to jump again for the next big increment; since I think my current place is quite good.

This post has been edited by kens88`: Aug 2 2023, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(kens88` @ Aug 2 2023, 02:01 PM)
Wow...See so many youngsters get so high salary makes me a bit depressed. but I am somewhat satisfied with my current arrangement

Job Title : Sales Exec
Job Desciption :
Age : 30
Years spent in company : few months
Company : Small cap company listed on Bursa
Industry : Chemicals
Tenure :
Employment Level :
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Engineering degree
Location : KL/ PJ mostly but may travel all over malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 35

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5400 + 800 transport allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : dunno how much because just joined
Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Meet client  a lot so hours are considered flexible
Work From Home Availability: X days in a month
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : quite flexible. Just need do some paper work in office once in a while

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : insurance and medical. 400 per year for optical and dental
Transport Benefits : claim toll, parking and petrol aside from allowance stated above
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : company phone and data plan
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry :For sales exec I think this pay is decent for the amount of work that needs to be done and WLB
Growth prospects : Development of new products is harder than I thought. Requires a lot of communication skills and patience. Those who say AI can replace sales and business development easily really dreaming. Your client can reject the AI more easily than a human. I believe there is always a strong demand for sales, marketing and business development
Where I will go from here : Depends on my performance in current place for this few years. Hope to go to leadership or management position in 5 more years.

Some background:
I started working in 2016 where I was some kuli in manufacturing.
2016 pay was RM2900. When I quit in 2019 it was 3500.

Then I joined a sales and service company (MNC)
The pay was only RM3800. But I took it because I was sick of the previous company and new company also offered me company car.
When I quit in 2022 because of crazy middle management my pay was RM4400. I would say I missed out on big pay jump in this second job. But I saved quite a bit as I did not have much commitment at that time. Work load was also less due to MCO shortly after I joined.

Then from that RM4400 jump to my current RM6200. I don't really hope to jump again for the next big increment; since I think my current place is quite good.
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very good bonus you have there!

QUOTE(NAVEE @ Jun 30 2023, 11:27 AM)
Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Core banking system support manager
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 9
Company :
Industry : Banking
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11000
Contractual Bonus (months):  0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4-6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours available but not really applicable as you work around the clock if required
Work From Home Availability: 3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited in patient and dental, life insurance, bi annual medical checkup, limited traditional medicine coverage.
Transport Benefits : free parking at office?
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : nope
Other Benefits : Company resort around the country, trainings and certification covered, from time to time give out good freebies, annual book allowance.

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Not much prospect here, as the promotional gap is low.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Not much room for growth
Where I will go from here : Planning to go to a less critical role and maybe look at risk and compliance roles
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QUOTE(NAVEE @ Jun 30 2023, 11:27 AM)
Job Title : Application Support Manager
Job Desciption : Core banking system support manager
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 9
Company :
Industry : Banking
Employment Level : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 11000
Contractual Bonus (months):  0 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4-6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours available but not really applicable as you work around the clock if required
Work From Home Availability: 3 days in a week
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : unlimited in patient and dental, life insurance, bi annual medical checkup, limited traditional medicine coverage.
Transport Benefits : free parking at office?
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : nope
Other Benefits : Company resort around the country, trainings and certification covered, from time to time give out good freebies, annual book allowance.

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Not much prospect here, as the promotional gap is low.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Growth prospects : Not much room for growth
Where I will go from here : Planning to go to a less critical role and maybe look at risk and compliance roles
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Can share What tech stack of the core system?

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Job Title : Software engineer
Job Desciption :C#full stack developer
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 years 4 months
Company : MNC
Industry : media advertisement
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Level 4
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 8500 + 200 taxable allowance
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : At least 1 month

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 3 days home, 2 days office
Annual Leaves: 18 Days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical and hospital claim
Other Benefits : EPF contribution from employer(i'm expat), Have yearly claims for medical, dental, free lunch and dinner, company events.

Current salary against peers in industry: Feels like very underpaid when comparing against the HR job posting and close friends.
Growth prospects : Hard to jump to senior if stay at current company as competing with hundreds of candidates within the same level.
Where I will go from here : I hope I can get at >10k salary on the next jump. 1 factor limiting me from jumping is scare no one is willing to hire an old guy like me and pay as much and scare wont get the same benefits outside this company.

Please advise sifu.


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Job Title : Service Delivery Manager
Job Desciption : Ensure that contractual commitments to customers are delivered and met (service levels and compliance)
Age : 30 later this year
Years spent in company : < 1 year in this role (9months)
Company : European startup
Industry : IT / Software / B2B SaaS / Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid-Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 6 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelors Degree
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM8000 + RM450 = RM8450
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 5% of Annual Base salary subject to performance

Benefits (where relevant) : N/A
Health Benefits : Company Insurance Policy for Employee, Spouse and Dependents. Optical and Dental benefits for employee and Spouse.
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Laptop, Headphones, Mouse, Screen
Flexi Working Hours : Flexi and WFH. As long as you complete your work
Other Benefits : N/A
Is this considered okay for my age and my role type / industry?
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Hi guys it's me again. After a crazy ride during Covid years, being constructively dismissed and laid off for the first time in my life, I'm now back with the following package:

Job Title : Regional Digital Projects Specialist / Project Manager (ASEAN incl AU/NZ)
Job Desciption : Subject Matter Expert supporting strategic direction and execution for B2B digitization projects
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 5 months so far coming to 6
Company : MNC
Industry : CPG
Tenure : 6 months contract
Employment Level : Mid-Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 9 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Kuala Lumpur / Remote (Hybrid)
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): Varies. As long as the work gets done. No punch in punch out.

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 20,000
Contractual Bonus (months): 0.5 months
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : N/A

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Yes
Work From Home Availability: As many days as you want
Annual Leaves: 10.5 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Group Hospitalization no co-pay fees
Transport Benefits : Mileage claim RM0.80/km
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : laptop, headphones, mobile package (highest maxis business postpaid plan RM188 per month)
Other Benefits : free company products (consume as much as you want), regular team building activities (fully paid by company),

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know, can anyone give some feedback? Thanks.
Growth prospects : Contract, so no idea. They prefer to give open permanent positions to existing employees. But 6 months is a short time to secure a permanent placement so it depends on whether opportunities open up which is seldom in this company
Where I will go from here : Already looking out for opportunities similar to the current where it is an individual contributor role (Project Management, Specialist, Business Analyst etc.) and in a similar industry (CPG)

Additionally, if anyone is looking for a highly accomplished Project Manager with expertise in B2B SaaS platforms, Fintech, and blockchain technology DM me. Would love to see how we can work together.
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post Aug 14 2023, 09:33 AM

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Job Title : Software engineer
Job Desciption :C#full stack developer
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 1 years 4 months
Company : MNC
Industry : media advertisement
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Level 4
Experience before joining (years) : 6
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 8500 + 200 taxable allowance
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : At least 1 month

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 3 days home, 2 days office
Annual Leaves: 18 Days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical and hospital claim
Other Benefits : EPF contribution from employer(i'm expat), Have yearly claims for medical, dental, free lunch and dinner, company events.

Current salary against peers in industry: Feels like very underpaid when comparing against the HR job posting and close friends.
Growth prospects : Hard to jump to senior if stay at current company as competing with hundreds of candidates within the same level.
Where I will go from here : I hope I can get at >10k salary on the next jump. 1 factor limiting me from jumping is scare no one is willing to hire an old guy like me and pay as much and scare wont get the same benefits outside this company.

Please advise sifu.
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post Aug 16 2023, 12:04 PM

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post Aug 19 2023, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(hwchew86 @ Nov 13 2022, 01:19 PM)
Stumbled upon this thread and since I got asked this a lot so might as well do this anonymously.

Job Title : Chief Actuary
Job Desciption : Whatever deemed actuarial
Age : 38
Years spent in company : 10
Company : -
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Actuarial fellowship
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40+

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM48k
Performance: 3-5 mths
Flexi Working Hours: Partial

Now let’s be clear, to succeed in this field you will need a lot of hard work and perseverance (9-12 professional exams, average pass rate of 30-40%, recommended 150-200 study hours per exam), technical and soft skills that set you apart from your peers at each level unless you have connections (at entry level every year hundreds if not thousands of graduates fighting for just a few openings), and a LOT of lucks which means your hard work may not always pay off. I consider myself one of the lucky ones. But then if you don’t confine yourself to Malaysia, there are a lot of international opportunities especially if you are qualified.

So consider yourself warned.
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Let's be real here.... actuaries are lucky because of BNM and also the industry in general demanding certain position requires said qualification....

Actuarial exams aren't as tough as CFA or even many other professional exams out there....

If the difficulty of qualification = high pay.... then whoever achieved top in the world in any chartered qualification... should automatically be CEO then??? Even if the qualification itself is easier.... we are literally talking about near impossible difficulty because you cannot even redo/have a second shot in getting top in the world...

Passing actuarial papers is just an eventual means as long as that person doesn't give up... I'm not from the insurance industry but I know even in your industry ... there are also only a small number of people holding chartered insurer title despite the exam is much easier than actuarial for most people.... however... those who held the title don't get the same luxury as qualified actuaries because BNM never gave a mandate that only chartered insurers can hold the Head of Claim/Underwriting/Marketing position...

Besides... difficulty of exams are also often subjective because I personally know a few qualified fellow actuary cannot get through chartered insurance exams and gave up.... one person might find stats/numbers easier but theories/research difficult....vice versa

This post has been edited by holypredator: Aug 19 2023, 05:22 PM
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post Aug 20 2023, 08:26 AM

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Job Title: Quality Safety Auditor
Job Description: Maintaining site safety and quality.
Age: 29
Years spent in company: 5 yrs. (3yrs in Japan)
Company: MNC (General contractors in Japan)
Industry: Construction
Tenure: Permanent
Experience before joining (years): -
Highest paper qualification/ education background: bachelor's degree (from university in Japan)
Location: Guam (US territories) but will fly to SEA, several times annually, one week per trip occasionally for site audit.
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-48 hrs.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance: RM17000 (530000JPY after tax and insurance payout (70000JPY or MYR2200))
Bonus: 5.5 months/yrs.

Work Flexibility (where relevant): Partial as I need to roam all the sites.
Work From Home Availability: No unless you have valid reason (Online meeting that goes over 5pm)
Annual Leaves: 20 days (previous year's unused pay leaves will add up, so I have 30-40 unused days) + 3 times 10-day leave annually to return to home country (airfare fee waived and will be reimburse afterward).
Flexi Working Hours: No. Expected to turn up at 8-5.

Benefits (where relevant):
Health Benefits: Covered by oversea insurance. (Deducted RM300 from monthly salary)
Transport Benefits: Vehicle provided; all fuel expense waived.
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits: laptop, phone provided.
Other Benefits: Accommodation provided, with water/electricity/utility/house internet fee waived. The only thing not waived is food.

*My company deployed me outside of Japan to work so they provided this kind of benefit. They will not provide this kind of benefit if I worked inside Japan.
*My company have Malaysia subsidiary and if I am to be deployed there, same benefit still applies because they still consider me "employee based in HQ Japan."

This post has been edited by sonicstream: Aug 20 2023, 05:03 PM
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Job Desciption : Manage deliverables
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1y
Company : Small-Medium Sdn Bhd Comp
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level :
Experience before joining (years) : 6y+
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL(remote)
Average Working Hours Per Week : 40~ hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9.6k~
Contractual Bonus (months): N/A
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 mth(at least)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: most of the time
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Employee Medical Insurance, claimable outpatient
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : N/A

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average ? with the experience and role
Growth prospects :
Where I will go from here :
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post Aug 30 2023, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 19 2023, 05:00 PM)
Let's be real here.... actuaries are lucky because of BNM and also the industry in general demanding certain position requires said qualification....

Actuarial exams aren't as tough as CFA or even many other professional exams out there....

If the difficulty of qualification = high pay.... then whoever achieved top in the world in any chartered qualification... should automatically be CEO then??? Even if the qualification itself is easier.... we are literally talking about near impossible difficulty because you cannot even redo/have a second shot in getting top in the world...

Passing actuarial papers is just an eventual means as long as that person doesn't give up... I'm not from the insurance industry but I know even in your industry ... there are also only a small number of people holding chartered insurer title despite the exam is much easier than actuarial for most people.... however... those who held the title don't get the same luxury as qualified actuaries because BNM never gave a mandate that only chartered insurers can hold the Head of Claim/Underwriting/Marketing position...

Besides... difficulty of exams are also often subjective because I personally know a few qualified fellow actuary cannot get through chartered insurance exams and gave up.... one person might find stats/numbers easier but theories/research difficult....vice versa
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Get out of here with that logic dude. Do not diminish the difficulty of passing actuarial papers.

Though I agree with the rest.

This post has been edited by contestchris: Aug 30 2023, 02:00 PM
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post Aug 31 2023, 01:14 PM

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Get out of here with that logic dude. Do not diminish the difficulty of passing actuarial papers.

Though I agree with the rest.
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CFA is known to be the hardest exam based on google... not my own words whistling.gif whistling.gif

Again... every exam has its own difficulty because some do well with numbers but can't do well in other studies... vice versa...

Similarly... some people can pass medical exams easily but having a though time getting through accounting exams doesn't mean medical exams are easier than accounting...

Like I said... I actually know quite a few people who have fellow actuary but couldn't get through chartered insurance exams... but that doesn't mean actuarial exam difficulty is diminished...

I can't stress this enough but if actuarial want to boast about "I got high pay because I achieve something very little people achieve" then whoever achieved top in the world in chartered exams should automatically become the CEO in their industry since it is literally the hardest thing anyone could ever dream of achieving... especially if you are talking about people achieving it coming from third world countries... literally almost ZERO
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post Sep 6 2023, 01:48 PM

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Job Title : sales director
Job Desciption : in house sales and project management
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 6
Company : self employed
Industry : software development, family business and startup
Tenure : permanent post
Employment Level : director
Experience before joining (years) : 10 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : mba, business admin
Location : kl and sg
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): normal

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 20k
Contractual Bonus (months): 2 to 8mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : depend

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : office and home
Work From Home Availability: depend
Annual Leaves: 30 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : yes
Transport Benefits : yes
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : yes
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know
Growth prospects : invest in other business
Where I will go from here : retire early
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post Sep 8 2023, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(sonicstream @ Aug 20 2023, 08:26 AM)
Job Title: Quality Safety Auditor
Job Description: Maintaining site safety and quality.
Age: 29
Years spent in company: 5 yrs. (3yrs in Japan)
Company: MNC (General contractors in Japan)
Industry: Construction
Tenure: Permanent
Experience before joining (years): -
Highest paper qualification/ education background: bachelor's degree (from university in Japan)
Location: Guam (US territories) but will fly to SEA, several times annually, one week per trip occasionally for site audit.
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40-48 hrs.

Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance: RM17000 (530000JPY after tax and insurance payout (70000JPY or MYR2200))
Bonus: 5.5 months/yrs.

Work Flexibility (where relevant): Partial as I need to roam all the sites.
Work From Home Availability: No unless you have valid reason (Online meeting that goes over 5pm)
Annual Leaves: 20 days (previous year's unused pay leaves will add up, so I have 30-40 unused days) + 3 times 10-day leave annually to return to home country (airfare fee waived and will be reimburse afterward).
Flexi Working Hours: No. Expected to turn up at 8-5.

Benefits (where relevant):
Health Benefits: Covered by oversea insurance. (Deducted RM300 from monthly salary)
Transport Benefits: Vehicle provided; all fuel expense waived.
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits: laptop, phone provided.
Other Benefits: Accommodation provided, with water/electricity/utility/house internet fee waived. The only thing not waived is food.

*My company deployed me outside of Japan to work so they provided this kind of benefit. They will not provide this kind of benefit if I worked inside Japan.
*My company have Malaysia subsidiary and if I am to be deployed there, same benefit still applies because they still consider me "employee based in HQ Japan."
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This is a good job.
Health and safety. Good pay for pretty straight forward responsibility.
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post Sep 14 2023, 02:54 PM

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2009-2017
Job Title : Plant Manager , progressed from being an Engineer
Job Description : Manage the whole plant and all departments
Years spent in company : 8+
Edu Qualification: BE Hons Mechanical
Company : SME MNC
Industry : Local O & G
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : permanent
Experience before joining : nil, started fresh here
salary : RM 10K, company car provided and housing with utilities paid for.


Job Title :Regional Ops Manager
Job Description :Head of Ops
Age :32
Years spent in company : 2
Company : Cash Solutions Provider
Industry : Financial Services
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) :8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA , BE Hons
Location :Johor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 24/7 due to nature of the business

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM14000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :Nil
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : No
Health Benefits : Individual covered
Transport Benefits : Petrol
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Laptop and mobile

Took nearly a 3 year break during covid , focusing on being a father and upskilling.

Job Title :Head of Operations
Job Desciption :Head of Ops
Age :37
Years spent in company : 4 months
Company : Material Science Company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Pemanent
Employment Level : Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) :10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA , BE Hons
Location :Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 11500
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : AWS
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :Nil
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : No
Health Benefits : Individual covered
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Laptop

This post has been edited by danscsa: Sep 14 2023, 02:56 PM
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post Sep 19 2023, 09:10 PM

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Job Title : Senior Software Developer
Job Desciption : .NET Developer
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 years 8 months
Company : Local
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 6 years 6 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : WFH/KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 9212
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 - 6 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Full WFH since start, unless have specific orders to go office
Annual Leaves: 21 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Group insurance, dental, optical, self, dependents
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Yes, RM 1000 per annum
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Average?
Growth prospects : Good room for growth, need to be active and deliver your work.
Where I will go from here : Still want to maintain as a developer.
About to jump ship, as I have been interviewing for other companies.
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Providing update to my current career journey. I jumped to a new company on Jun 2022.


Job Title : Senior Software Developer
Job Desciption : .NET Developer
Age : 31
Years spent in company : 1 year
Company : MNC
Industry : Consultancy
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 8 years 3 months
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : WFH/KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 12500
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 month
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: Full WFH since
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Group insurance, dental, optical, self
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Not sure
Growth prospects : Got room for growth and maybe internal promotion but need to stay for longer period
Where I will go from here : Attended 3-4 interviews and got an offer
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So after 1 year of staying, I decided to interview at several open positions and I got an offer. This new offer from the company is only an increment of 5.6%. But the benefits are better. I want to ask you guys opinions, what should I do? Should I accept?

Notes:
New company is MNC as well. Bonus is around 1.5 - 3 months. Medical cover myself and dependents (current company only self).
The new company also requires employee to work at the office maybe around 8-10 days in a months (but it depends on your team, my team require to go office 1 once per week).
Job scope I would say pretty same.
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post Sep 19 2023, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(danscsa @ Sep 14 2023, 02:54 PM)
Been more then a decade since my last update.
2009-2017
Job Title : Plant Manager , progressed from being an Engineer
Job Description : Manage the whole plant and all departments
Years spent in company : 8+
Edu Qualification: BE Hons Mechanical
Company : SME MNC
Industry : Local O & G
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : permanent
Experience before joining : nil, started fresh here
salary : RM 10K, company car provided and housing with utilities paid for.
Job Title :Regional Ops Manager
Job Description :Head of Ops
Age :32
Years spent in company : 2
Company : Cash Solutions Provider
Industry : Financial Services
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) :8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA , BE Hons
Location :Johor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 24/7 due to nature of the business

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM14000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1mths
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :Nil
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours :  No
Health Benefits : Individual covered
Transport Benefits : Petrol
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Laptop and mobile

Took nearly a 3 year break during covid , focusing on being a father and upskilling.

Job Title :Head of Operations
Job Desciption :Head of Ops
Age :37
Years spent in company : 4 months 
Company : Material Science Company
Industry : Construction
Tenure : Pemanent
Employment Level : Senior Manager
Experience before joining (years) :10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA , BE Hons
Location :Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hours 

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 11500
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : AWS
Work Flexibility (where relevant) :Nil
Annual Leaves: 14 days
Flexi Working Hours :  No
Health Benefits : Individual covered
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits :Laptop
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Well done! That's a huge salary jump! Congratulations

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Well done! That's a huge salary jump! Congratulations
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Thanks if to compare in hindsight should be earning same amount of SGD14K as per MYR however just thankful to have a job after a 3 year hiatus!
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post Sep 20 2023, 02:25 PM

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Thanks if to compare in hindsight should be earning same amount of SGD14K as per MYR however just thankful to have a job after a 3 year hiatus!
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It’s a good start and you can only go higher!

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Usually these Core system are using very old stacks, not worth to learn. I believed the pay itself was largely contributed by the functional experience, project management, and domain expertise, little about technical skills, but more on project mgmt.
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Job Title : Sr. Ops Manager
Job Description : Overseeing part of company operation
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : Logistics
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Senior
Experience (Total) : 13 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40+

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 16k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1 to 2 months (estimates)

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : - Individual covered
Other Benefits : 12 Days AL

This post has been edited by mick87: Nov 9 2023, 05:10 PM
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post Nov 18 2023, 12:39 AM

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Job Title : Network engineer
Job Desciption : In general responsible for infra network connectivity services
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1year
Company : Bank
Industry : Banking
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : AM
Experience before joining (years) : 6 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 48 hours excluding OT

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 6590
Contractual Bonus (months): None
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~1.5mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: None(Working shift)
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Unlimited (Myself, wife and kid)
Transport Benefits : RM150
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Other Benefits : Shift allowance RM300

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know. Feel like underpaid because starting too low and too long stay in first company. Really regret that.
Growth prospects : Limited in term of technical since working as end user. Previously as vendor. However if want to stay within banking industry might be a good add on value.
Where I will go from here : Will re evaluates either want to stay or jump once reach 3 years services. Want to run away from working in shift. Mainly will jump for money but need to take up a higher role to justify for the increments. Not sure if want to stay in IT networking or start to take on a cloud journey. Is the pay good?

This post has been edited by jadjad: Nov 18 2023, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(jadjad @ Nov 18 2023, 12:39 AM)
Job Title : Network engineer
Job Desciption : In general responsible for infra network connectivity services
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1year
Company : Bank
Industry : Banking
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : AM
Experience before joining (years) : 6 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 48 hours excluding OT

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 6590
Contractual Bonus (months): None
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~1.5mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: None(Working shift)
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Unlimited (Myself, wife and kid)
Transport Benefits : RM150
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Other Benefits : Shift allowance RM300

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Don't know. Feel like underpaid because starting too low and too long stay in first company. Really regret that.
Growth prospects : Limited in term of technical since working as end user. Previously as vendor. However if want to stay within banking industry might be a good add on value.
Where I will go from here : Will re evaluates either want to stay or jump once reach 3 years services. Want to run away from working in shift. Mainly will jump for money but need to take up a higher role to justify for the increments. Not sure if want to stay in IT networking or start to take on a cloud journey. Is the pay good?
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There are always perks that come with various skillset. However if monetary is something you are looking for, my recommendation is to hone your skill in one field first.
Example:

Candidate A
CCNA + SAA

Candidate B
CCNP + SAA

Candidate C
CCIE

Which one do you think will have highest salary? Probably C in most cases. Candidate B might have higher chance of getting a job in the market but if you are looking for money, my recommendation is go into one very specific skillset.

This is the same for bachelor degree. Do you think a double degree will be paid higher or a PhD holder will be paid higher? (Exclude working experience)


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Company : MNC
Industry : construction
Tenure :
Employment Level : Mid management
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree + PE
Location : Mainland China
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45-50 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM27k + RM15k housing allowance
Contractual Bonus (months): 2-6 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : flexible
Work From Home Availability: 8 days in a month
Annual Leaves: 22 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Standard up to RM10,000 claim annually
Transport Benefits :RM5000
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : RM8000
Other Benefits :

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : Currently on local contract. Expats get 2-3x more for assignments. May consider jumping to other countries.
Current salary against peers in industry : Average
Overpaid / Average / Underpaid: Avg
Growth prospects : Focus on specializing in either technical or business streams in SIT.
Where I will go from here : See where the economy goes, though currently property market is shit in China. Firms offering voluntary packages worth around 12-18 months salary. Might consider taking it up and go else where.

This post has been edited by mingosaur: Nov 20 2023, 10:09 PM
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Job Title : Cloud Engineer
Job Description : Deploying Cloud (AWS/Azure) infrastructure
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience (Total) : 7 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree ICT (Uni Teknologi Petronas)
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 16k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 13 month bonus

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : Covered for all family members
Other Benefits : 15 Days AL

Previous Experience:
2017 - 2019 | Start up Company | System Engineer| RM2500 (when join) to RM3500 (when resign)
2019 - 2022 | O&G MNC | Cloud Operation Engineer | RM7+++ (when join) to RM10+++ (when resign)
2022 - 2023 | Banking | Senior Cloud Dev | RM13,+++
2023 - now | MNC Insurance | Cloud Engineer | RM16,+++


I have professional certificate AWS, Azure, Redhat, ITIL, CCNA

Maybe its time for me to take lead/manager role
seems like i reach limit salary for engineer role

This post has been edited by myroy: Nov 22 2023, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(myroy @ Nov 22 2023, 09:54 PM)
Job Title : Cloud Engineer
Job Description : Deploying Cloud (AWS/Azure) infrastructure
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience (Total) : 7 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree ICT (Uni Teknologi Petronas)
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 16k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 13 month bonus

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : Covered for all family members
Other Benefits : 15 Days AL

Previous Experience:
2017 - 2019 | Start up Company | System Engineer| RM2500 (when join) to  RM3500 (when resign)
2019 - 2022 | O&G MNC | Cloud Operation Engineer | RM7+++ (when join) to  RM10+++ (when resign)
2022 - 2023 | Banking | Senior Cloud Dev | RM13,+++
2023 - now | MNC Insurance | Cloud Engineer | RM16,+++
I have professional certificate AWS, Azure, Redhat, ITIL, CCNA

Maybe its time for me to take lead/manager role
seems like i reach limit salary for engineer role
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6 years to 16k.. very impressive 👏
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post Nov 23 2023, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Nov 22 2023, 09:54 PM)
Job Title : Cloud Engineer
Job Description : Deploying Cloud (AWS/Azure) infrastructure
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience (Total) : 7 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree ICT (Uni Teknologi Petronas)
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 16k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 13 month bonus

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : Covered for all family members
Other Benefits : 15 Days AL

Previous Experience:
2017 - 2019 | Start up Company | System Engineer| RM2500 (when join) to  RM3500 (when resign)
2019 - 2022 | O&G MNC | Cloud Operation Engineer | RM7+++ (when join) to  RM10+++ (when resign)
2022 - 2023 | Banking | Senior Cloud Dev | RM13,+++
2023 - now | MNC Insurance | Cloud Engineer | RM16,+++
I have professional certificate AWS, Azure, Redhat, ITIL, CCNA

Maybe its time for me to take lead/manager role
seems like i reach limit salary for engineer role
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Does all the professional certifications that you have play a part in your career progression? Just wondering if I should be investing in those certifications as they aren’t cheap.

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Experience (Total) : 12 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor Degree and 3 license plus auctioneer
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout: Range from half a million to one mil per year

This post has been edited by boyboycute: Nov 23 2023, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Nov 23 2023, 12:49 PM)
Does all the professional certifications that you have play a part in your career progression? Just wondering if I should be investing in those certifications as they aren’t cheap.
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If i be honest certificate does not necessary... skill matter the most
but.... to get selected into 1st preliminary interview, for sure they will see certification first compare to hundreds of application



Then when 2nd interview/technical interview this is where you will get drill into real hands on...
practice... practice.. practice...
i even have my own lab at my house, setup my own networking, security, and playing around with kubernetes into my raspberry pie



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Job Title : Senior Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : in house engineering team (network)
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 3
Company : local company
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : permanent post
Employment Level : eq to sr.manager range
Experience before joining (years) : 8 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : adv diploma
Location : kl
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): normal

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 21k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~ 3 - 5 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : hybrid
Work From Home Availability: hybrid
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : yes
Transport Benefits : yes
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : yes
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : been working in computer network for more than 10 years .. recently expanding to cloud and devops tools ..
Current salary against peers in industry : probably avg based on my experience and certs
Growth prospects : -
Where I will go from here : expanding into cloud and devops area

before you judge me ..i'am double ccie with vmware and system certs.


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post Dec 4 2023, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Nov 22 2023, 09:54 PM)
Job Title : Cloud Engineer
Job Description : Deploying Cloud (AWS/Azure) infrastructure
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : MNC
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience (Total) : 7 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree ICT (Uni Teknologi Petronas)
Location : Malaysia
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary : RM 16k
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 13 month bonus

Benefits (where relevant) : -
Health Benefits : Covered for all family members
Other Benefits : 15 Days AL

Previous Experience:
2017 - 2019 | Start up Company | System Engineer| RM2500 (when join) to  RM3500 (when resign)
2019 - 2022 | O&G MNC | Cloud Operation Engineer | RM7+++ (when join) to  RM10+++ (when resign)
2022 - 2023 | Banking | Senior Cloud Dev | RM13,+++
2023 - now | MNC Insurance | Cloud Engineer | RM16,+++
I have professional certificate AWS, Azure, Redhat, ITIL, CCNA

Maybe its time for me to take lead/manager role
seems like i reach limit salary for engineer role
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Did you post the same to MsiaPayGap? haha

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post Dec 28 2023, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(hiroshi87 @ Dec 1 2023, 11:11 AM)
Job Title : Senior Principle Engineer
Job Desciption : in house engineering team (network)
Age : 36
Years spent in company : 3
Company : local company
Industry : FinTech
Tenure : permanent post
Employment Level : eq to sr.manager range
Experience before joining (years) : 8 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : adv diploma
Location : kl
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): normal

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 21k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ~ 3 - 5 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : hybrid
Work From Home Availability: hybrid
Annual Leaves: 24 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : yes
Transport Benefits : yes
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : yes
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) : been working in computer network for more than 10 years .. recently expanding to cloud and devops tools ..
Current salary against peers in industry : probably avg based on my experience and certs
Growth prospects : -
Where I will go from here : expanding into cloud and devops area

before you judge me ..i'am double ccie with vmware and system certs.
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you are not avg but top tier, look at that 5 months bonus with this pay, you're giving a lot of young engineers hope thumbsup.gif sweat.gif
how is your work life balance?
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QUOTE(stinger @ Dec 28 2023, 08:55 AM)
you are not avg but top tier, look at that 5 months bonus with this pay, you're giving a lot of young engineers hope  thumbsup.gif sweat.gif
how is your work life balance?
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work life balance is great with occasional OT required. continuous learning is the key in getting high pay IT job. never stop learning since day 1.

i put it as avg because the pay for cloud based position / devops engineers with much less experiences than me getting 10k ~ 20k is normal.
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Age :30
Industry : Banking (IT)
Employment Level : AVP
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 9800 (15% increment only)
Allowance: RM 200

Should I take this offer? Is AVP average salary usually this low?

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QUOTE(bboyjacky @ Jan 5 2024, 09:30 AM)
Job Title : Product Manager
Age :30
Industry : Banking (IT)
Employment Level : AVP
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 9800 (15% increment only)
Allowance: RM 200

Should I take this offer? Is AVP average salary usually this low?
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Your expected salary is more than this and they counter you with 15% increment? I think you should negotiate for a higher increment. Depending on which bank you are applying to, AVP position might be in abundance. But I think it can be slightly higher than this.
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QUOTE(bboyjacky @ Jan 5 2024, 09:30 AM)
Job Title : Product Manager
Age :30
Industry : Banking (IT)
Employment Level : AVP
Experience before joining (years) : 4 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50 hrs
Basic Salary: RM 9800 (15% increment only)
Allowance: RM 200

Should I take this offer? Is AVP average salary usually this low?
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Usually the band for an AVP starts from RM9k-RM12k for most banks in IT. Assuming that AVP is also the AM (assistant manager) to other similar roles. For banks, don't focus on the title but also it looks at the internal leveling. Some banks use bands, some uses number levels, etc..etc..
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Experience before joining (years) : 3 years
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 9-5pm
Salary Including fixed allowance(ayam contract 1 year): RM 7600

Thinking to jump company again this year
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Industry : Education
Tenure :
Employment Level : Part Timer
Experience before joining (years) : -
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BScA
Location : Kedah
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): not fix /week

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 25/hour

*Currently will pursue DPLI to apply SPP, become teacher.

*dont know to depressed or happy after unemployed for 1 yrs before get a job. Depressed because i dont have job, but also happy bcuz i able to completed stock market and fcpo technique(maybe one day will be useful to me). Hoping to rest another year while pursue DPLI to completed scalping technique for bursa(actually 50% complete). Blessing or curse?

*For those who read, dont be depress with when reading their salary(10k+++). Mathematically, only few able to achieve that, that why ranging 10k+ called T20 and in few field (actuary, engineer and software). Most i met, range from 6-8k for 30+(i take engin. cert, so this is what they told me). If that many able to get 10k++, they would not stay in apartment(i work at Bagan previously as delivery rider), instead of lavish kondo or landed house.

*Also if i had a permanent job, i want to set up business ecommerce.

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QUOTE(Petajensen99 @ Jan 8 2024, 02:35 AM)
Job Title : Part Time English Tutor
Job Desciption : Teach SPM student
Age : 25
Years spent in company : <1
Company : Religious School
Industry : Education
Tenure :
Employment Level : Part Timer
Experience before joining (years) : -
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BScA
Location : Kedah
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): not fix /week

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 25/hour

*Currently will pursue DPLI to apply SPP, become teacher.

*dont know to depressed or happy after unemployed for 1 yrs before get a job. Depressed because i dont have job, but also happy bcuz i able to completed stock market and fcpo technique(maybe one day will be useful to me). Hoping to rest another year while pursue DPLI to completed scalping technique for bursa(actually 50% complete). Blessing or curse?

*For those who read, dont be depress with when reading their salary(10k+++). Mathematically, only few able to achieve that, that why ranging 10k+ called T20 and in few field (actuary, engineer and software). Most i met, range from 6-8k for 30+(i take engin. cert, so this is what they told me). If that many able to get 10k++, they would not stay in apartment(i work at Bagan previously as delivery rider), instead of lavish kondo or landed house. 

*Also if i had a permanent job, i want to set up business ecommerce.
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Sorry but you're wrong. Salary all depends which industry you're from, the more niche it is the higher demand =higher salary. In my industry (sorry can't disclose cause it's a niche industry), I'm paying my Senior Manager 13k, Technical Manager 16k, BD Manager 12k but more junior Executive between 3.2 - 4.2k. My level as BD Director with 13 years experience, I'm >30k basic excluding bonus 6 figures if we hit our target.
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QUOTE(danscsa @ Sep 20 2023, 01:29 PM)
Thanks if to compare in hindsight should be earning same amount of SGD14K as per MYR however just thankful to have a job after a 3 year hiatus!
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How do you jump to Singapore?
Can teach me?
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QUOTE(vvv @ Jan 23 2024, 02:23 PM)
How do you jump to Singapore?
Can teach me?
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Actively applying on linked in, applications just on linked in alone is about 15 per week, 60 per month and 720 per year for 3 years on average

mycareers future is highly dependent as most jobs posted have already been filled and less than 50% are actual jobs but need to have wp/ep/s pass/pr.

Having a PR helps if you have a spouse already working then can convert together however highly depending on children, education, race and etc.

Persistent during interviews and must always research company background and how you have global mindset hence need to be working with other countries and also how you can contribute and adapt to working in SG.

The list goes on and on, however above are just the bare basics you can do now or at least start planning.
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QUOTE(kkkw80 @ Jan 18 2024, 04:34 PM)
Sorry but you're wrong. Salary all depends which industry you're from, the more niche it is the higher demand =higher salary. In my industry (sorry can't disclose cause it's a niche industry), I'm paying my Senior Manager 13k, Technical Manager 16k, BD Manager 12k but more junior Executive between 3.2 - 4.2k. My level as BD Director with 13 years experience, I'm >30k basic excluding bonus 6 figures if we hit our target.
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Whoa you reached BD Director within 13 years? That's very fast bro, congrats.
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Whoa you reached BD Director within 13 years? That's very fast bro, congrats.
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13 years in this similar industry but 23 years working experience
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13 years in this similar industry but 23 years working experience
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Oh ok ok, still very impressive. So you pivoted industries and it worked well!
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Job Description : Manage team of software developers and accountable for technical delivery.
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 8+
Company : Consulting
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining (years) : 1
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 14000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2mths

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Job Desciption : Works on Siemens Camstar/Opcenter Integration
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Industry : Fintech (working for banking facilities)
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Mid Level
Experience before joining (years) : 1 year
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Penang
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 hrs

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 5.3k
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 month (13 month salary)
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 months performance bonus

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: 3 weeks per month
Annual Leaves: 19 days
Flexi Working Hours : Semi (upon foreign project requirement request)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical, health screening, dental & optical for immediate family (total RM4k)
Transport Benefits : 200 toll (pro rata based on number of working days in office)
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : mental health consultation, bi weekly team activities/games, paternity & compassionate leave

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Job Desciption : Working in lab doing research & development
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 5
Company : -
Industry : Paints & Coatings Industry
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor's Degree
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM3650
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1.5 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : None
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Other Benefits : None

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid
Growth prospects : Not much room to grow if staying, current head of department spent 15 years in the company before getting promoted
Where I will go from here : Looking for managerial position, got offered once but they only pay rm6000 all in, what do you guys think?
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QUOTE(viRtuos0 @ Feb 14 2024, 03:25 PM)
Job Title : Chemist
Job Desciption : Working in lab doing research & development
Age : 33
Years spent in company : 5
Company : -
Industry : Paints & Coatings Industry
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Executive
Experience before joining (years) : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor's Degree
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 50

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM3650
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1.5 mths

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Card
Transport Benefits : None
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : None
Other Benefits : None

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid
Growth prospects : Not much room to grow if staying, current head of department spent 15 years in the company before getting promoted
Where I will go from here : Looking for managerial position, got offered once but they only pay rm6000 all in, what do you guys think?
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RM3.6k and bonus only 1.5mths after 5 years in the company?? you're having a laugh mate!!

Should just take the RM6k offer...


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How do you jump to Singapore?
Can teach me?
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any other protips on this? Especially for those with just few years working experience

This post has been edited by ming24: Mar 13 2024, 08:16 AM
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Job Title : Scrum Master / Delivery Manager
Job Desciption : Usual SM R&R, at the same time a PM role for a different team
Age : Turning 32 soon
Years spent in company : 1
Company : MNC
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Managerial
Experience before joining (years) : 9 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree + Prof Certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): ranging from 50 to mind bending 80 which includes weekend full day

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 20.2k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 - 3 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours but frequent late nights
Work From Home Availability: Hybrid
Annual Leaves: 18 days
Flexi Working Hours : Yes

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical for family
Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry :For SM / PM role, I think it's around market rate
Growth prospects : Plenty I believe, consultancy / project / scrum of scrum
Where I will go from here : Project delivery area, eg: Project director / Head of delivery


If I'm getting offered S$13K to relocate to Singapore for a similar role & responsibilities, which country offers a better life quality in your opinion? I'm married with a young kid, KL Local, pretty comfortable. SG income tax is lower but close to impossible owning a car there with S$13k, even though I know the transport system there is brilliant. Thoughts?

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Edited to include future prospects

Job Title : Scrum Master / Delivery Manager
Job Desciption : Usual SM R&R, at the same time a PM role for a different team
Age : Turning 32 soon
Years spent in company : 1
Company : MNC
Industry : Telco
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Managerial
Experience before joining (years) : 9 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree + Prof Certs
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): ranging from 50 to mind bending 80 which includes weekend full day

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 20.2k
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2 - 3 months

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : Flexi hours but frequent late nights
Work From Home Availability: Hybrid
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Flexi Working Hours : Yes

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Transport Benefits : N/A
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : N/A
Other Benefits : -

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry :For SM / PM role, I think it's around market rate
Growth prospects : Plenty I believe, consultancy / project / scrum of scrum
Where I will go from here : Project delivery area, eg: Project director / Head of delivery
If I'm getting offered S$13K to relocate to Singapore for a similar role & responsibilities, which country offers a better life quality in your opinion? I'm married with a young kid, KL Local, pretty comfortable. SG income tax is lower but close to impossible owning a car there with S$13k, even though I know the transport system there is brilliant. Thoughts?
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Imo quality of life in myr with your salary trumps sg 13k.

1) rental is expensive in sg. Additionally the downpayment for a new place is crazy assuming you going for private projects with a 30% downpayment iinm. Meaning, you are nowhere close to owning a home for the next few years on top of paying rental.

2) if you are childless, yes public transportation is ok. But imaging having a baby/toddler and going to buy groceries? Not easy.

3) you didn take into account your wife who if working will most likely need to find a role there as well. If your wife has income here, you will have even better disposable income.

With your salary here you can easily buy your own place instead of renting along with 2 cars at 2k installment a month.

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Imo quality of life in myr with your salary trumps sg 13k.

1) rental is expensive in sg. Additionally the downpayment for a new place is crazy assuming you going for private projects with a 30% downpayment iinm. Meaning, you are nowhere close to owning a home for the next few years on top of paying rental.

2) if you are childless, yes public transportation is ok. But imaging having a baby/toddler and going to buy groceries? Not easy.

3) you didn take into account your wife who if working will most likely need to find a role there as well. If your wife has income here, you will have even better disposable income.

With your salary here you can easily buy your own place instead of renting along with 2 cars at 2k installment a month.
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And not sure how old is your kid. Education is expensive for non citizen/pr.
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QUOTE(budang @ Mar 14 2024, 11:53 PM)
If I'm getting offered S$13K to relocate to Singapore for a similar role & responsibilities, which country offers a better life quality in your opinion? I'm married with a young kid, KL Local, pretty comfortable. SG income tax is lower but close to impossible owning a car there with S$13k, even though I know the transport system there is brilliant. Thoughts?
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You'll be better off staying in KL with your RM salary and everything already set up.
Only consider the move if you have other less tangible priorities (you think there's more opportunities in future, prefer the lifestyle, value the education system, etc) and are willing to "downgrade" for a few years".

Rental and schooling costs will more than offset any gains from the lower income tax.
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Imo quality of life in myr with your salary trumps sg 13k.

1) rental is expensive in sg. Additionally the downpayment for a new place is crazy assuming you going for private projects with a 30% downpayment iinm. Meaning, you are nowhere close to owning a home for the next few years on top of paying rental.

2) if you are childless, yes public transportation is ok. But imaging having a baby/toddler and going to buy groceries? Not easy.

3) you didn take into account your wife who if working will most likely need to find a role there as well. If your wife has income here, you will have even better disposable income.

With your salary here you can easily buy your own place instead of renting along with 2 cars at 2k installment a month.
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 15 2024, 09:36 PM)
And not sure how old is your kid. Education is expensive for non citizen/pr.
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Mar 18 2024, 10:05 AM)
You'll be better off staying in KL with your RM salary and everything already set up.
Only consider the move if you have other less tangible priorities (you think there's more opportunities in future, prefer the lifestyle, value the education system, etc) and are willing to "downgrade" for a few years".

Rental and schooling costs will more than offset any gains from the lower income tax.
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Thanks for the valuable input!

I heard from my SG counterpart that non Citizen has to pay like S$500 per month for schooling in government school.

Intangible priorities mentioned are also part of my consideration, eg: political stability and child's education.

However, undeniably housing & car ownership can seem like a major downgrade in SG considering the costs involved.
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Thanks for the valuable input!

I heard from my SG counterpart that non Citizen has to pay like S$500 per month for schooling in government school.

Intangible priorities mentioned are also part of my consideration, eg: political stability and child's education.

However, undeniably housing & car ownership can seem like a major downgrade in SG considering the costs involved.
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It depends on your priorities and everything is a double edge sword point and case:

1) Car , dream on not easy unless earning more than SGD 15K per month however public transport super reliable and you need to have your children school/day care nearby or a bus away. Also , routine is key , meaning children sleep and wake schedules and all.

2) Education much better in SG compared to MY, yes you pay 3.5 times more but quality you get is 10X more plus kids will learn earlier on how to cope.

3) Long term future for kids, SG better but cost of living is only going to go up in SG hence you need to be ambitious to ensure salary grows in tandem.

Hence , you need to look at your set of priorities and will be your prerogative on whether to move or stay put.
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QUOTE(budang @ Mar 18 2024, 12:21 PM)
Thanks for the valuable input!

I heard from my SG counterpart that non Citizen has to pay like S$500 per month for schooling in government school.

Intangible priorities mentioned are also part of my consideration, eg: political stability and child's education.

However, undeniably housing & car ownership can seem like a major downgrade in SG considering the costs involved.
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Yeah $500-600 for primary school. But the bigger issue is getting a spot in a convenient school. Each school has limited spots for non-citizens, if you don't get in you'll have to try something further away (or not get in at all). Which is why many "expats" just go for international schools.

If you're still considering, the strategy is usually to sacrifice a bit for a few years, apply to become a PR then things will be much better.
Provided you don't mind your son going to NS biggrin.gif

Lack of car is fine if you stay at a convenient place, which isn't that hard to find in SG. I have 2 very young kids and live fine without a car.

Btw with SGD 13k you'll likely still live a comfortable life, just without the ability to save much.

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Company : Taiwanese MNC
Industry : IC design / semicon front-end
Tenure : Permanent
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Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ranging from 4-12 mths or more

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : flexi hours, occasional OT depends on project phase
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 10 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial. Fixed working day with flexi starting time.

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical insurance, annual health checkup, mental counseling
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Other Benefits : around RM1.5k welfare fund per annum (for education/sports/insurance), legal consultation

Others:
- no epf since working overseas
- pay less tax compared to Malaysia for this salary range (but may pay more when salary grows)

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Above Average
Growth prospects : From what I heard, pay raise above average but promotion is pretty difficult.
Where I will go from here : Either continue working overseas in Taiwan/other countries and jump to other MNC or relocate back to MY/SG.
How's the pay/benefits of similar role in Malaysia (Intel/Oppstar/Infinecs?) ? What about similar opportunity in Singapore?
My parents would prefer me to work closer to home but at this career stage, I would priorities career building. What's your thoughts?
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For those who want to work in Singapore please check this link it will give the insight what will be the salary range for company and job title.

https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/search?s...elevancy&page=0
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https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/search?s...elevancy&page=0
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Woa the salary is quite high compared to malaysia
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Yeah $500-600 for primary school. But the bigger issue is getting a spot in a convenient school. Each school has limited spots for non-citizens, if you don't get in you'll have to try something further away (or not get in at all). Which is why many "expats" just go for international schools.

If you're still considering, the strategy is usually to sacrifice a bit for a few years, apply to become a PR then things will be much better.
Provided you don't mind your son going to NS  biggrin.gif

Lack of car is fine if you stay at a convenient place, which isn't that hard to find in SG. I have 2 very young kids and live fine without a car.

Btw with SGD 13k you'll likely still live a comfortable life, just without the ability to save much.
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I came to SG way before covid, rental was much cheaper and managed to get my PR and bought a flat before prices skyrocketted due to covid. My job doesnt require me to go to office and there are cheap food places near my house. I dont own a car and public transport is very convenient. It's much cheaper to just grab/rent a duration based electric car. Monthly mortage is fully covered by my CPF (EPF equivalent in Malaysia). My income is pretty high (non property agent nor insurance jobs but high base sales job with a good commission payout working in an MNC) and I save 70% of my income (after expenses, insurance and misc stuff). Get to splurge on travel and good stuff occassionally.

The situation is no doubt different post covid- high rental/property prices/much slower PR approval time- I have some Malaysian friends who have opted to rent in JB while waiting for their PR/chance to get a flat/accumulate enough savings. Long term wise IMHO benefits of moving here definitely outweighs working in Malaysia. I agree that you live very comfortably owning a car and a landed big house with an income of 10-15k RM, but that's pretty much it. If your income doesnt grow in tandem with rising inflation and weakening RM, you will feel the pinch sooner or later and travelling overseas is just going to be more expensive over time. While in SG, after living here for a number of years- I have the option to move back to Malaysia or elsewhere without much restrictions.
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I came to SG way before covid, rental was much cheaper and managed to get my PR and bought a flat before prices skyrocketted due to covid. My job doesnt require me to go to office and there are cheap food places near my house. I dont own a car and public transport is very convenient. It's much cheaper to just grab/rent a duration based electric car. Monthly mortage is fully covered by my CPF (EPF equivalent in Malaysia). My income is pretty high (non property agent nor insurance jobs but high base sales job with a good commission payout working in an MNC) and I save 70% of my income (after expenses, insurance and misc stuff). Get to splurge on travel and good stuff occassionally.

The situation is no doubt different post covid- high rental/property prices/much slower PR approval time- I have some Malaysian friends who have opted to rent in JB while waiting for their PR/chance to get a flat/accumulate enough savings. Long term wise IMHO benefits of moving here definitely outweighs working in Malaysia. I agree that you live very comfortably owning a car and a landed big house with an income of 10-15k RM, but that's pretty much it. If your income doesnt grow in tandem with rising inflation and weakening RM, you will feel the pinch sooner or later and travelling overseas is just going to be more expensive over time. While in SG, after living here for a number of years- I have the option to move back to Malaysia or elsewhere without much restrictions.
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Agree with you there. I came to SG as a single man too, so I understand what you mean.

But you have to understand that he has a family with kids. Sacrificing current quality of life for the potential (not guarantee) of a better future may or may not be the right move.
A lot more things to consider when you have dependents.
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Mar 27 2024, 09:25 AM)
Agree with you there. I came to SG as a single man too, so I understand what you mean.

But you have to understand that he has a family with kids. Sacrificing current quality of life for the potential (not guarantee) of a better future may or may not be the right move.
A lot more things to consider when you have dependents.
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Forgot to mention- I have 2 kids as well =).
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Forgot to mention- I have 2 kids as well =).
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Ah I see, how did you find schooling for them when you first got here? Before your PR.
That's one of the tough things from what I heard.
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Yeah $500-600 for primary school. But the bigger issue is getting a spot in a convenient school. Each school has limited spots for non-citizens, if you don't get in you'll have to try something further away (or not get in at all). Which is why many "expats" just go for international schools.

If you're still considering, the strategy is usually to sacrifice a bit for a few years, apply to become a PR then things will be much better.
Provided you don't mind your son going to NS  biggrin.gif

Lack of car is fine if you stay at a convenient place, which isn't that hard to find in SG. I have 2 very young kids and live fine without a car.

Btw with SGD 13k you'll likely still live a comfortable life, just without the ability to save much.
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Do take note this is with reference to 'Government and Government-Aided schools'. For independent schools, where my girls are, the fees are already at the range of $300~$600/mth since they are SCs. Independent schools are the big name schools such as Nanyang Girls High, Hwa Chong, Raffles Girls, MGS etc. If you are PR, range is $600~$1,400/mth while Foreign (ASEAN) is $1,000 ~ $3,200/mth. You can get details from here: https://www.moe.gov.sg/schoolfinder

Unfortunately, I have come across situations where kids who did well and got into such schools, have to change to others cause the fees are simply unbearable. Such is life.

As for SG international schools, you may have to pay $2K/mth but sorry to say, unlike M'sia, their education syllabus sux at primary-level but less sux at secondary level. In short, even the lowest-ranked government aided school in SG, will perform better than any international schools.

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Job Title : Digital Design Verification Engineer (DV)
Job Desciption : R&D; Networking IC; RTL/Formal Verification.
Age : 27
Years spent in company : 1
Company : Taiwanese MNC
Industry : IC design / semicon front-end
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior Engineer
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master
Location : Taiwan
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): around 50 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : around RM12k (depends on exchange rate)
Contractual Bonus (months): 1 mths
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : ranging from 4-12 mths or more

Work Flexibility (where relevant) : flexi hours, occasional OT depends on project phase
Work From Home Availability: No
Annual Leaves: 10 days
Flexi Working Hours : Partial. Fixed working day with flexi starting time.

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : medical insurance, annual health checkup, mental counseling
Transport Benefits : -
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Other Benefits : around RM1.5k welfare fund per annum (for education/sports/insurance), legal consultation

Others:
- no epf since working overseas
- pay less tax compared to Malaysia for this salary range (but may pay more when salary grows)

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Above Average
Growth prospects : From what I heard, pay raise above average but promotion is pretty difficult.
Where I will go from here : Either continue working overseas in Taiwan/other countries and jump to other MNC or relocate back to MY/SG.
How's the pay/benefits of similar role in Malaysia (Intel/Oppstar/Infinecs?) ? What about similar opportunity in Singapore?
My parents would prefer me to work closer to home but at this career stage, I would priorities career building. What's your thoughts?
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You are stationed in Taiwan and they pay you in Ringgit?

Performance bonus looks very good... 4-12months!!!

Annual Leaves so little....

When you say no EPF... does taiwan not have any form of retirement fund???

RM12k equal in Taiwan should be quite nice I think since their cost of living is almost similar to Malaysia...
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You are stationed in Taiwan and they pay you in Ringgit?

Performance bonus looks very good... 4-12months!!!

Annual Leaves so little....

When you say no EPF... does taiwan not have any form of retirement fund???

RM12k equal in Taiwan should be quite nice I think since their cost of living is almost similar to Malaysia...
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Paid in Taiwan dollar.

Retirement Fund only available for permanent residents.
Employer contribute 6% and employee can choose to contribute another 6% max.
I'm still 3.5 years away from qualifying for PR application.

Cost of living overall maybe like > 10-15% EXCEPT housing prices biggrin.gif
Rental is okayish about 2k for studio.
But a studio unit can cost > million ringgit in certain locations.
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Paid in Taiwan dollar.

Retirement Fund only available for permanent residents.
Employer contribute 6% and employee can choose to contribute another 6% max.
I'm still 3.5 years away from qualifying for PR application.

Cost of living overall maybe like > 10-15% EXCEPT housing prices  biggrin.gif
Rental is okayish about 2k for studio.
But a studio unit can cost > million ringgit in certain locations.
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So... no PR means zero contribution by both employee and employer??

How many years in total require to qualify for PR??

You living in Taipei city center??

After 3.5 years.... it's like Annual increment + another 6% brows.gif brows.gif

What's the annual increment % for you??
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So... no PR means zero contribution by both employee and employer??

How many years in total require to qualify for PR??

You living in Taipei city center??

After 3.5 years.... it's like Annual increment + another 6%  brows.gif  brows.gif

What's the annual increment % for you??
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Correct. If I had known earlier I would try to ask for higher pay for compensation tongue.gif .

5 years of legal stay. (with > 183 days each)
If you got your Master/Doctoral degree in Taiwan then it can be reduced by 1/2 years.
I studied Master here so 4 years for me.

There are some other (not that easy) conditions that can reduce the requirement further.

I work at Hsinchu. All the big players in semicon are based in Hsinchu Science Park.

I heard the increment is about 3%-6% normally, so nothing crazy.
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Woa the salary is quite high compared to malaysia
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I came to SG way before covid, rental was much cheaper and managed to get my PR and bought a flat before prices skyrocketted due to covid. My job doesnt require me to go to office and there are cheap food places near my house. I dont own a car and public transport is very convenient. It's much cheaper to just grab/rent a duration based electric car. Monthly mortage is fully covered by my CPF (EPF equivalent in Malaysia). My income is pretty high (non property agent nor insurance jobs but high base sales job with a good commission payout working in an MNC) and I save 70% of my income (after expenses, insurance and misc stuff). Get to splurge on travel and good stuff occassionally.

The situation is no doubt different post covid- high rental/property prices/much slower PR approval time- I have some Malaysian friends who have opted to rent in JB while waiting for their PR/chance to get a flat/accumulate enough savings. Long term wise IMHO benefits of moving here definitely outweighs working in Malaysia. I agree that you live very comfortably owning a car and a landed big house with an income of 10-15k RM, but that's pretty much it. If your income doesnt grow in tandem with rising inflation and weakening RM, you will feel the pinch sooner or later and travelling overseas is just going to be more expensive over time. While in SG, after living here for a number of years- I have the option to move back to Malaysia or elsewhere without much restrictions.
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Thanks for sharing, and for your honest opinion!
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I came to SG way before covid, rental was much cheaper and managed to get my PR and bought a flat before prices skyrocketted due to covid. My job doesnt require me to go to office and there are cheap food places near my house. I dont own a car and public transport is very convenient. It's much cheaper to just grab/rent a duration based electric car. Monthly mortage is fully covered by my CPF (EPF equivalent in Malaysia). My income is pretty high (non property agent nor insurance jobs but high base sales job with a good commission payout working in an MNC) and I save 70% of my income (after expenses, insurance and misc stuff). Get to splurge on travel and good stuff occassionally.

The situation is no doubt different post covid- high rental/property prices/much slower PR approval time- I have some Malaysian friends who have opted to rent in JB while waiting for their PR/chance to get a flat/accumulate enough savings. Long term wise IMHO benefits of moving here definitely outweighs working in Malaysia. I agree that you live very comfortably owning a car and a landed big house with an income of 10-15k RM, but that's pretty much it. If your income doesnt grow in tandem with rising inflation and weakening RM, you will feel the pinch sooner or later and travelling overseas is just going to be more expensive over time. While in SG, after living here for a number of years- I have the option to move back to Malaysia or elsewhere without much restrictions.
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Would be interesting to see how long you are able to retain your ‘option’ and at what cost…
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Job Title : Private Equity Associate
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Tenure : 6
Employment Level : Junior
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Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (carried interest): RM1,200,000 - 1,600,000 (based on last 2 years' bonus, this is uncapped and based on the fund's performance)

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Other Benefits : All meals covered during weekdays

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Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid for a large cap fund... I have peers getting paid 2x vs. mine in the same region...
Growth prospects : Very good corporate prospects, with unlimited cap for salaries within the industry...
Where I will go from here : I don't think I will stay in the corporate world for long...

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I hope to shine light on a fairly secretive industry... and hope to inspire more M'sians to explore... I am also happy to answer any questions...
Caveat:
- Where I live, income tax etc. is close to 50%, and cost of living is insane too, so I actually do not feel rich...

Job Title : Private Equity Associate
Job Desciption : Investment
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 2
Company : XXX
Industry : Private Equity
Tenure : 6
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining (years) : 4
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Undergrad
Location : US / UK
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 80

Monetary Payout (total yearly converted to RM)
Basic Salary: RM1,200,000 (before tax)
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (carried interest): RM1,200,000 - 1,600,000 (based on last 2 years' bonus, this is uncapped and based on the fund's performance)

Work Flexibility (where relevant) :
Work From Home Availability: No one really cares as long as you get the job done...
Annual Leaves: 25 days
Flexi Working Hours : No

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Yes
Transport Benefits : Taxi home
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Yes
Other Benefits : All meals covered during weekdays

Future Prospects (personal outlook) :
Current salary against peers in industry : Underpaid for a large cap fund... I have peers getting paid 2x vs. mine in the same region...
Growth prospects : Very good corporate prospects, with unlimited cap for salaries within the industry...
Where I will go from here : I don't think I will stay in the corporate world for long...
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Congratulations and very well done at your age! Number may look crazyyyyy if converted to MYR but yeah, after reverse conversion back to USD / GBP it really is not much considering the taxation and cost of living (especially rental) on that part of the world.

Do you intend to naturalise there over the long term, or eventually return to Malaysia after grinding enough moolah?
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Congratulations and very well done at your age! Number may look crazyyyyy if converted to MYR but yeah, after reverse conversion back to USD / GBP it really is not much considering the taxation and cost of living (especially rental) on that part of the world.

Do you intend to naturalise there over the long term, or eventually return to Malaysia after grinding enough moolah?
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I asked the same question of him, when he posted his profile under the "what's your net worth" thread, and he (like many others in his shoes, myself included) indicated that it would be hard for him to return to Malaysia unless it's for retirement, given that the role he plays isn't readily available in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 29 2024, 08:30 AM)
I asked the same question of him, when he posted his profile under the "what's your net worth" thread, and he (like many others in his shoes, myself included) indicated that it would be hard for him to return to Malaysia unless it's for retirement, given that the role he plays isn't readily available in Malaysia.
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I see. Makes sense actually, Malaysia have plenty of talents but the country itself isn't economically/politically/matured enough to absorb the talents hence the brain drain. But for retirement, definitely one of the better options here given the low cost of living but pretty high living standards compared to advanced economies.
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 28 2024, 12:46 PM)
Congratulations and very well done at your age! Number may look crazyyyyy if converted to MYR but yeah, after reverse conversion back to USD / GBP it really is not much considering the taxation and cost of living (especially rental) on that part of the world.

Do you intend to naturalise there over the long term, or eventually return to Malaysia after grinding enough moolah?
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I am not too sure really.
As mentioned by @hksgmy above, most probably not anytime soon, as there are many other things besides $$$ to consider.
I do understand the flexibility that comes with having money, but I truly think that as long as you work hard / smart, your financials should be ok in a place like M’sia anyway.
Me and my spouse are focusing on finding something to do / somewhere to go that’ll make us (and our future kids) happy. And unfortunately, I don’t think Malaysia will be the place (yet).

Tbh, if I want to make money quick, I’d go back to M’sia…
I get to save peanuts here (but I’m paying for my mortgage so I guess it’s some form of asset / wealth…).
I used to work in one of the MBBs and I can transfer/apply to the KL office fairly easily. They pay super well in M’sia.
Also, I’ve gotten some pretty good offers (some with total comp >RM600k pa) to work in Malaysia. With that kinda money, my spouse won’t need to work and we can actually feel super rich and save up a lot… imaging staying in a RM10-15k pm rental unit in KL, have a domestic helper and a chauffeur, easily affordable.
vs. Earning RM100k per month in US/UK and can barely afford any decent apartments...
Moreover, starting businesses is a lot easier (lower barriers, less competitive, and more growth) in SEAsia.

But being rich is not our main goal.
For now, I want to be financially stable asap; and be happy, and make my parents happy while I can.
In the future, I want my kids to be happy, and perhaps spend some time to make M’sia and the world a better place however much or little I can. (Maybe going into teaching).

Of course, staying in the U.K./US has its ups and, mainly, downs too… And I don’t think I like my job.
So going in circles… I’m a bit of a limbo right now…

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I am not too sure really.
As mentioned by @hksgmy above, most probably not anytime soon, as there are many other things besides $$$ to consider.
I do understand the flexibility that comes with having money, but I truly think that as long as you work hard / smart, your financials should be ok in a place like M’sia anyway.
Me and my spouse are focusing on finding something to do / somewhere to go that’ll make us (and our future kids) happy. And unfortunately, I don’t think Malaysia will be the place (yet).

Tbh, if I want to make money quick, I’d go back to M’sia…
I get to save peanuts here (but I’m paying for my mortgage so I guess it’s some form of asset / wealth…).
I used to work in one of the MBBs and I can transfer/apply to the KL office fairly easily. They pay super well in M’sia.
Also, I’ve gotten some pretty good offers (some with total comp >RM600k pa) to work in Malaysia. With that kinda money, my spouse won’t need to work and we can actually feel super rich and save up a lot… imaging staying in a RM10-15k pm rental unit in KL, have a domestic helper and a chauffeur, easily affordable.
vs. Earning RM100k per month in US/UK and can barely afford any decent apartments...
Moreover, starting businesses is a lot easier (lower barriers, less competitive, and more growth) in SEAsia.

But being rich is not our main goal.
For now, I want to be financially stable asap; and be happy, and make my parents happy while I can.
In the future, I want my kids to be happy, and perhaps spend some time to make M’sia and the world a better place however much or little I can. (Maybe going into teaching).

Of course, staying in the U.K./US has its ups and, mainly, downs too… And I don’t think I like my job.
So going in circles… I’m a bit of a limbo right now…
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I wouldn’t consider having a job in a high stress, super competitive industry that fires ppl at high rates financial stability.
If I get fired, I will literally go bankrupt in a year with my mortgage to pay…

Also, I meant being financially stable for the rest of my life! biggrin.gif
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I wouldn’t consider having a job in a high stress, super competitive industry that fires ppl at high rates financial stability.
If I get fired, I will literally go bankrupt in a year with my mortgage to pay…

Also, I meant being financially stable for the rest of my life! biggrin.gif
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Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : Nil..started as a Graduate Trainee..
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Job Title : Senior Finance Advisor
Job Description : Leading the annual budget and company financial planning.
Age : 34
Years spent in company : 10
Company : MNC
Industry : Oil & Gas
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Management
Experience before joining (years) : Nil..started as a Graduate Trainee..
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Masters and Prof Paper
Location : Sarawak
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 22000
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 4-5mths
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Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Technical staff
Experience before joining (years) : 1.5 year
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9200
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2mths

May I know roughly what is the celery ceiling for IT related positions in Malaysia? e.g. Team Lead / Manager positions

Last time I heard my ex-colleague macam hard in getting increment from jumping, I don't know the amount, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 15k range?
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QUOTE(SamTheBoi @ May 12 2024, 12:02 AM)
Job Title : Senior DevOps Engineer
Job Description : Be the magic glue that holds software products / IT infrastructure together
Age : 24
Years spent in company : less than one year
Company : MNC
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Technical staff
Experience before joining (years) : 1.5 year
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : KL
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9200
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2mths

May I know roughly what is the celery ceiling for IT related positions in Malaysia? e.g. Team Lead / Manager positions

Last time I heard my ex-colleague macam hard in getting increment from jumping, I don't know the amount, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 15k range?
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You can download annual reports from Jobstreet, Monster, Ambition, etc. to get an idea. However real life scenario I have managed Tech Lead (Senior Developer) at 18k and SDM at 25k in MNC in KL but these are really experienced post >10 years, at 80-90 percentile, so the numbers can get higher.

For DevOps, it's not hard, just need to right opportunity and timing when there is a good offer comes up.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ May 12 2024, 02:11 PM)
You can download annual reports from Jobstreet, Monster, Ambition, etc. to get an idea. However real life scenario I have managed Tech Lead (Senior Developer) at 18k and SDM at 25k in MNC in KL but these are really experienced post >10 years, at 80-90 percentile, so the numbers can get higher.

For DevOps, it's not hard, just need to right opportunity and timing when there is a good offer comes up.
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Recently got sembang a bit with manager (an open minded person), heard him say quite hard for them to get headcount, due to company lower than average salary offering (but amazing WLB).

Guess I still have quite a lot to look forward to! laugh.gif
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I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friendds I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friendds I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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Guess it’s considered as a taboo in Asian families. I don’t discuss about this with my family too.
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I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friendds I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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because everyone can see from experiences (hopefully from others') that money can actually break family ties.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(byt112000 @ May 23 2024, 06:54 PM)
i feel like a loser now after scrolling through this thread
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nah, don't be.. I'd be feeling the same thing like 15 years ago..
if anything, see the posts here as goals.. nod.gif
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I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friendds I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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Bosses happy, when people don't know what their work/value worth is easier to low ball people on salary.
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I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friendds I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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QUOTE(ProSuperSchool @ May 23 2024, 04:32 PM)
I want to ask..why do people keep their salary a secret, I know from non family, from friends I can see, but this even from siblings still wanna keeep it a secret? why aa, haha
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what so hard to understand. Most people tied their salary to their self worth.

low income people afraid others will laugh at their salary or even look down
high income people scare others will ask them for money

Guess what kind of people will post their salary here?
Btw is so easy to lie on internet, that I lie everyday unconsciously
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what so hard to understand. Most people tied their salary to their self worth.

low income people afraid others will laugh at their salary or even look down
high income people scare others will ask them for money

Guess what kind of people will post their salary here?
Btw is so easy to lie on internet, that I lie everyday unconsciously
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Agree with you. Easy to lie, much harder to keep a consistent narrative to keep up the lie.

Easier just to tell the truth.
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Agree with you. Easy to lie, much harder to keep a consistent narrative to keep up the lie.

Easier just to tell the truth.
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It's like self-reinforcement.

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Pathological liar will make the lie "truth" to himself/herself.
It's like self-reinforcement.
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Sometimes, this is all they have to break up the humdrum of their real life. Just let them be and don’t take even this away from them haha
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Age : 26
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Company : MNC
Industry : Construction Consultancy
Tenure : Full time
Employment Level : Professional
Experience (Total) : ~3.5 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : SG
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 60-70...

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This would be my last sharing on my career progress as I do not see myself transitioning back to Malaysia.

I hope my progress will inspire everyone to be brave in asking for what you deserve ✨️. Do not limit yourself to your last drawn salary and Corporate have more budget than what you imagine.

Role: New, head-hunted
Experience: 5years
Basic: 135k/annum
Bonus: 2-3months + RSU

I open up my direct message if you would like help with CV reviews or any salary negotiation tips.

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This would be my last sharing on my career progress as I do not see  myself transitioning back to Malaysia.

I hope my progress will inspire everyone to be brave in asking for what you deserve ✨️. Do not limit yourself to your last drawn salary and Corporate have more budget than what you imagine.

Role: New, head-hunted
Experience: 5years
Basic: 135k
Bonus: 2-3months + RSU

I open up my direct message if you would like help with CV reviews or any salary negotiation tips.
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$135k/month… who would ever want to give that up to go back to Malaysia?!

Congrats bro!
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QUOTE(Snoozeaway @ Jun 11 2024, 07:44 PM)
This would be my last sharing on my career progress as I do not see  myself transitioning back to Malaysia.

I hope my progress will inspire everyone to be brave in asking for what you deserve ✨️. Do not limit yourself to your last drawn salary and Corporate have more budget than what you imagine.

Role: New, head-hunted
Experience: 5years
Basic: 135k/annum
Bonus: 2-3months + RSU

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What currency is the 135k?
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What currency is the 135k?
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If Im reading it correctly, he’s in Singapore.
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This would be my last sharing on my career progress as I do not see  myself transitioning back to Malaysia.

I hope my progress will inspire everyone to be brave in asking for what you deserve ✨️. Do not limit yourself to your last drawn salary and Corporate have more budget than what you imagine.

Role: New, head-hunted
Experience: 5years
Basic: 135k/annum
Bonus: 2-3months + RSU

I open up my direct message if you would like help with CV reviews or any salary negotiation tips.
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Sorry, sorry… I didn’t see your edit there.

Even then, it’s still a very respectable sum of money! Well done!
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Job Title : Senior DevOps Engineer
Job Description : Be the magic glue that holds software products / IT infrastructure together
Age : 24
Years spent in company : less than one year
Company : MNC
Industry : Consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Technical staff
Experience before joining (years) : 1.5 year
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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 9200
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 1-2mths

May I know roughly what is the celery ceiling for IT related positions in Malaysia? e.g. Team Lead / Manager positions

Last time I heard my ex-colleague macam hard in getting increment from jumping, I don't know the amount, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 15k range?
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With only 1.5 years experience you are fetching 9.2k. What was your 1st salary out of college?
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after many years later, same role, and same company.

Salary: 25K+


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after many years later, same role, and same company.

Salary: 25K+
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Job Description : Manage acquisition projects
Age : 37
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Company : Risk Consultancy
Industry : Financial
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining (years) : 13
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Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 30-50 hours

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Not sure where should i go from here, just feel that i reach to peak of my career at current point.
Think of looking for overseas' opportunities after another 2 years hmm.gif
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Just sharing since my last update long time ago.

Job Title : Senior Project Manager
Job Description : Manage acquisition projects
Age : 37
Years spent in company : -
Company : Risk Consultancy
Industry : Financial
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining (years) : 13
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 30-50 hours

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM20,000
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : unknown

Not sure where should i go from here, just feel that i reach to peak of my career at current point.
Think of looking for overseas' opportunities after another 2 years  hmm.gif
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Peak as in ceiling pay for a project manager? You can always move on to become project director or programme manager that is overseeing multiple projects? As a project manager I am assuming you are managing one or at most two projects at a time.
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Peak as in ceiling pay for a project manager? You can always move on to become project director or programme manager that is overseeing multiple projects? As a project manager I am assuming you are managing one or at most two projects at a time.
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1 - 2?

i am managing 20 entities acquisition now biggrin.gif where each of it can be treated as independent project

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Just sharing since my last update long time ago.

Job Title : Senior Project Manager
Job Description : Manage acquisition projects
Age : 37
Years spent in company : -
Company : Risk Consultancy
Industry : Financial
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : -
Experience before joining (years) : 13
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 30-50 hours

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Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM20,000
Contractual Bonus (months): NA
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : unknown

Not sure where should i go from here, just feel that i reach to peak of my career at current point.
Think of looking for overseas' opportunities after another 2 years  hmm.gif
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Oh congrats Gundam nice progression!

I think you can aim for Head of Project Management or something, pay can go over 30k if I am not mistaken.
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Oh congrats Gundam nice progression!

I think you can aim for Head of Project Management or something, pay can go over 30k if I am not mistaken.
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thanks for your advice smile.gif

but think to be head of PM would be a daunting feat and a long way from my current experience smile.gif maybe will aim for that in a few years time

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SUSsomewhataut
post Jul 11 2024, 05:31 PM

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Job Title : modeller
Job Desciption : easy information modelling
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 1.5
Company : construction material
Industry : Logam
Tenure : perm
Employment Level : not sure
Experience before joining (years) : was job hopping, no real experience
Highest paper qualification/ education background : master of science
Location : Singapore
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Should I move into tech? Data analyst or something.
imtiyaz248
post Aug 13 2024, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Batman @ Jun 26 2024, 03:06 PM)
after many years later, same role, and same company.

Salary: 25K+
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This role like pre-sales engineer? May know your detail job description?
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post Aug 20 2024, 12:02 AM

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i feel like a loser now after scrolling through this thread
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take it with a pinch of salt..
Malaysia already a negara maju if everyone earning 20k 30k
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post Aug 28 2024, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(byt112000 @ May 23 2024, 06:54 PM)
i feel like a loser now after scrolling through this thread
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Honestly, don't. Use this as inspiration to find out more, learn more from others and don't be shy dropping them a PM to ask them how did they reach where they are.
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Freshie here, anyone know the payout for a Nutritionist? planning to do master changing field into Dietitian, I'm a little lost either to continue study or work (don't offer part time in MY), 27 this year
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post Sep 2 2024, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(samjet @ Aug 20 2024, 12:02 AM)
take it with a pinch of salt..
Malaysia already a negara maju if everyone earning 20k 30k
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Looking at this it doesn't seem too farfetched



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hushymushy
post Sep 4 2024, 12:09 AM

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i think being employed in Malaysia to exceed 20k is not easy
for sure there are some highly paid jobs, like those off shore O&G etc

IT - there is the low and also the super high - quite a spectrum

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