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Let's continue this discussion here!

Best BCAA you tried?

My vote goes to GAT Muscle Martini.

But its too expensive for low number of servings.

First woots!

I've only tried aminoX

@Darklight but how about inititally when u start in bodybuilding?

Im in this BB for less than 2 years... Well, i can see u did use some supplement back then..

How long u've been in this bb-ing? I guess, it's been quite some time right..

I saw your pic in the previous thread. when you consume MHP Dark and Myo Pro? And that musclemed carniv.?

Nvm too many questions. Can tell me whats your daily supplement intake looks like?

make a mistake... MHP dark matter purchase wrongly.. I tot is a glutamine =="

well it's ok.

So currently, i had 4 shakes per day. I'll list the the time i take in my supplement

930am - Myo Pro + ON Glutamine + Anavite
330am - Myo Pro + ON Glutamine
530pm - Animal cut (only one pak per day)
900pm - Carni + ON Glutamine + Anavite (Gonna replace with Animal Pak)
113pm - Carni + ON Glutamine

Now MHP Matter comes in ==" So maybe 9pm gonna take MHP + Glutamine. This is just a plan. Im on cutting period. Duno is it a good idea to take in MHP now.

Anyone can guide?

I use Xtend + MP Assault.
First time use, my Strength elevated by 30%. I able to break my plateau.

30% is damn a lot leh bro, if u bench 100kg max you could bench 130kg with the supp lol.

Yes, no kidding.. I also surprise..
The protocol is:
30M Before -> Mp Assult
15M Before -> 1 sev Xtend
During -> Sipping 1 sev Xtend.

This post has been edited by arekey: Apr 12 2012, 10:03 AM

I was wondering about MP Assault, read so many good reviews about it. Is it really that good? how would u compare it to other pre w/o?
and that 30% part...come on man, are u serious? that sounds too much for a first time user

Im looking forward to have Xtend as well.

Did u take it like intra workout or jz a sip like u said??

I Just sip it.

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Added on April 12, 2012, 10:28 amI Just share my experience and you already read a good review about it rite.
I have use NO-explode, Jack3d, and this. By far this is the best stack for me.

This post has been edited by arekey: Apr 12 2012, 10:28 AM

I'm on Controlled Labs Purple Wraath as my intraworkout. But I guess it can't really compare to Xtend? The former is EAAs, the latter is BCAAs?

Im planing to try MP Assault too. What flavor is nice? Maybe if i have extra cash can try your combination.

What are you taking for post-wo?

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Added on April 12, 2012, 10:57 amAhhh icic no wonder. Thanks for the list. Looks interesting to try.

This post has been edited by Dagger69: Apr 12 2012, 10:57 AM

Dude, that's a huge increase...
Anyways, where do you get your supps? Especially MP stuff.

I'm just sticking to whey and creatine for now and maybe get deeper into the supps if I hit a wall.

This post has been edited by strinq: Apr 12 2012, 11:18 AM

musclemaniaclub.com

Anyone here hv try Myofusion Probiotic Series?
wat difference for normal myofusion and myofusion probiotic??
suggest some good bcaa and creatine supplement~thank you

congratz on new thread

Bro how do u feel about the Animal cut?
I was looking into FB to increase my workout.

The taste. And probiotics are supposed to be good for you. In what way, I have no idea cause I CBF to read up about them since the price is more or less the same.

And any regular creatine mono will do the trick. I use EGO's creatine mono since it's the cheapest.

Animal Cut sounds really good. I said 'sound'. Anyone here using that care to share? Really as effictive as they say it is ? I'm looking to get more ripped now, got some excess fat at my stomach and around it which I want to eliminate so i can see my abs. Currently going on low carbs but if this things works i'm willing to give it a try too.

This post has been edited by XlimShady: Apr 12 2012, 02:11 PM

I'm not sure it really excel when come to cutting but i guess not too bad.

Still, if u expect something extraordinary then i'm nt so sure.. Idea of getting down fat of course still diet..

I only hv very limited carbs everyday, high protein diet.. + try to take out as much salt as possible and sugar..

fat wise, i believe u guys noe it as well. avoid oily food? but sometimes too tempting, i still eat then sit at the corner feeling so regret. Thinking i'm wasting my time n money lol...

i alwiz find that first 2 weeks really difficult because alwiz hungry and the food taste awful. After u see some result, then u will stick to it..

I duno how to count calorie, carbs(g) and protein(g) i go by my feeling hehe..

I have a bottle of jack3d but it's finishing in another say 2-3 weeks. Should I continue getting pres or get an Xtend, if I'm not able to afford to stack both?

And ive always wanted to get Xtend, does it really help you recover while you're working out? Or is there any other purpose of it that I missed out? To put it short, how good is it?

This post has been edited by KingArthurVI: Apr 12 2012, 10:49 PM

I'm looking for a good casein protein for before bed,I was looking at ON 100% casein protein..The ON seems to have less fat,any feedback guys?

Thanks ur comment~erm...Universal Creatine good or nt?can effectively pump muscle mass?
i din try creatine n bcaa before so i dun understand about tos product~
the main point is i want for pump muscle bigger~currently im using mass gainer n protein only~

*sorry double-posted

This post has been edited by KingArthurVI: Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM

Dude, those are two different products.

If you do a lot of training in the morning or after work/school, I'd go with the jack3d, just to pick me up. But if you hate walking funny for half a week after leg day, get Xtend.

I know, that's why I asked which one is better value for my money since I can only afford one of them. Is the focus during gym more important, or is the recovery and BCAAs more important? Jack3d works great on me because I often feel lethargic before I go to gym after a whole day's class at college so it really gives me focus and I don't feel sleepy. Xtend is just something I've been thinking of trying but I don't know how good it is so I would like to get some feedback from Xtend users.

PERSONAL OPINION
I would go for xtend. Imo recovery is way more important. Growth does not happen in the gym. I have not tried any pre workouts yet other than amino energy which is sorta a combo between the two and my lifts has still been improving.

Maybe go for it if you're working out odd hours and/ or not getting enough sleep.

Ah I see, thanks and I saw Xtend's description said it also helps with your training intensity etc? So is it in any way like jack3d? Because jack3d increases training intensity.

Notice the * with every claim. I'm assuming that means it has not been proven or tested?

This post has been edited by darkseifer: Apr 13 2012, 10:02 AM

I didn't see any significant change to my training when on xtend.

Had a lot more endurance when using amino energy though. Was running like a friggin hamster on the treadmill after doing weights lol.

Yeah well it means * These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

So yeah i guess

Ah I see. Alright I will see how it goes thanks man!

I only takes whey for the past three years of my training. But I see some ppl take xtend and whey, their progress is real fast =_=

are you sure thats 'all' they are taking?

The bigger question is, how is your overall nutrition and training regime compare to them? These play a much bigger role than supplements ever will.

i loveeee xtend taste. some lemonade flavour. but... i don't feel any diff though.

Anyone who tried ON double rich choc before mind to comment on the taste? My 10 lbs bag tastes like very very plain milo like super diluted and chlorine-ish, it's really bad and worse than my NT. did I get a bad batch?

This post has been edited by KingArthurVI: Apr 14 2012, 03:03 PM

u havent taken ON whey b4? that's the taste i believe. pure whey doesnt taste as good as blend.

Hey guys, which is best fish oil for with reasonable price? I'm currently looking at ON fish oil. Price is quite ok but don't see anyone selling.

This post has been edited by XlimShady: Apr 14 2012, 05:05 PM

Nonsense, ON just has lousy flavorings.

So you guys' ON also tasted very flavorless? Should I be worried? Because it's not just bad taste it's like there's a slightly bitter aftertaste lingering at the back of the tongue, sort of like chlorine or something.

this is based on my experience since i have tasted quite alot of them.

ON whey tastes quite plain. about the bitter part, not quite sure i experienced tat...
if u have frens who have tasted it b4, worth giving some to them to test taste it...

Alright thanks but I didn't think it would be so bad. I had an extreme milk chocolate once and I actually liked it but the double rich chocolate is...

and some ppl recommend ego monohydrate...is thr really good?

Creatine is creatine.

Ego just happens to have the cheapest creatine you can buy locally.

Nope. It's like that. I mix it with only about 120ml per scoop. It tastes better.

eh bero try it with less water. it mixes well in a shaker. see if it still tastes chlorine-ish.

My dymatize elite whey rich chocolate also doesn't taste good.
I mix it with soy milk and it's acceptable.
Anyways, for most brands, the taste of chocolate always have one of the lower ratings.
High up there would be cafe mocha or chocolate mint.

which brand specifically?
i thought choc is always the safe bet, no?

Thanks bro it does taste a bit better

Thanks, I tried with milk and it's so much better because i love milk. anyway was just relieved because i was worried that i got a bad batch or someone tempered with the powder, glad to know that it's like that

I checked at bodybuilding .com and the taste rating for chocolate for most brands are at most in the middle.
Some of it a bit lower.

if u want to continue to make general comment, i have no comment.

For ON, dbl rich choc tasted rating is in the middle.
For Dymtize Elite, rich choc is below average.

and some others that you can search for if you really want to know.

Have you all tried cookie and cream for on whey?

OHMYGAWD myofusion probiotic banana tastes like heaven, seriously

And I'm gonna have to buy a new pre-workout supp to share with a friend, Jack3d worked great on me but was thinking of maybe trying out NeuroCore? anyone tried it out before?

This post has been edited by KingArthurVI: Apr 20 2012, 03:42 PM

I hate cookies and cream whey.. that's just me maybe others will like it

tried it a few years ago. got cookie bits inside if i remember correctly. tastes good. to me la at least.

i dont weather to take cookie and cream or chocolate. cause im kind of sick of vanila already, luckily going to finish soon. any other flavours ?

ON banana's taste overpowers everything. not that it's better, it just masks everything you don't like about protein shakes because of it's strong smell.

imo cookies n cream > chocolate.

Neurocore is the most foul-tasting supp I've ever tasted. You know cough syrup from clinics? Imagine that only 100 times worse. As for its efficacy, I can't say much as I only tried a few times from a friend.

To me, Jack3d's the best and works all the time for me.

since when MT makes anything tat tastes nice?

guys, im taking nitro tech whey protein currently, do u guys recommend changing to ON 100% whey gold standard?

Guys, need advice

on fasting month ( Ramadhan ) is it advicable to take Creatine?

Period of fasting : 6am - 7pm
Eating Period - 7pm - 6am

i will lift weights around 5pm. I know its quite early to ask this but just curious, need advice halp

ramadhan is generally a very tough time on the body going long periods without food. as such, most people who fast take this oppertunity to fall into a cutting cycle.

creatine therefore is not recommended as it would require you to drink lots of water *throughout* the day and have a steady supply of carbs to work well.

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Added on April 20, 2012, 11:00 pmTry it both and compare for yourself. Which ever you feel suites our personal preference in terms of taste, mixability,price and availability; pick that one. Generally speaking, the effects of both protein powders would be mostly similar.

This post has been edited by tineagle: Apr 20 2012, 11:00 PM

yeah,it's not good to take creatine when you can't drink water. It will make you dry as hell. Take casein instead

i was thinking of taking BCAA and Casein

Thinking of changing from ON whey to Dymatize iso 100. Anyone tried dymatize iso 100 before? No fats, no sugar.

This post has been edited by shueking: Apr 21 2012, 12:08 AM

IMO, if u r not asking abt taste, then u should be the one deciding what you eat. Supplement by mean it's an additional to your normal meals to ensure your nutrients are enough. If you have enough carbs and fats in your diet, all you need is just protein, then Iso 100 is what you need. But if the carbs and fats r not enough,then why not other protein?

If u wan ask abt in term of value and worth, On is giving u 24 g protein per scoop,1g protein 3g carbs (120 cal) while Iso 100 is giving u same 24g of protein 1g carb but no fat (hence 106 cal). I believe the price difference is around RM30 where Iso is much expensive and servings size both around 80.

I myself will think On is better in this scenario. Even though Iso may be really faster digest protein than On, but I dun think it's made much different if u take the protein at right time.

If i would spend 200 plus on a protein, I would prefer things like Cytosport Monster Milk that contain blend of both fast digesting whey and slow digesting milk protein.

After all,it's still up to your own preferences.

lean gains protocol la, bro. 16 hours fast/8 hours feast. tapi sahur pagi kena awal skit, nanti makan protein bebanyak badan panas plak tak dapat minum air.

Why is myofusion getting so much rave ? I checked another protein mixture nutrex muscle infusion. Seems to have a better profile .. i think. Btw after the musclemilk metal scare, anyone taking it regularly ? I used to have the most gains on mm but have avoided it since.

This post has been edited by mrPOTATO: Apr 22 2012, 11:26 PM

taste wise myofusion bro...

I love muscle infusion!

Taste wise Myofusion wins tho!

what flavor are you taking bro?

Previously im hvg cookies cream and chocolate monster. So this morning is the first vanilla.

It really spoil my day lol..

Thanks for highlighting this. I will probably try Muscle Infusion for my next order. As for Vanilla, I never liked that flavour regardless of brand.

Mine is Choco.

I don't buy any other flavor for protein!

Muscle infusion as in Nutrex? Man, you really have a huge tolerance on taste. Smelled a friend's, god damn that smelled like a rat. And judging from my friend's expression after taking a sip. Well, let's just say I'm never giving it a shot. Lol

Chocolate taste good..

Yeah!

lol I dunno what a rat smells like,but to me it was fine!

really?
shit i just order vanilla beast ..

LoL good luck.. maybe you will like it..

Personally, beside ice cream, i nvr taste any vanilla until protein. First is on whey, it makes me puke and now this...

maybe you will like it but not for me lol.. Gotta mix some milk powder perhaps

Probably to make it more tolerable for you, mix it with milk.

yaya.. I alwiz add milk to my protein...

Somehow, nowadays I use milk powder instead of liquid form milk due to cost

sorry to disturb on all your protein discussion, but i'm seeking for suggestion on how to split my supplements intake.. running out of idea when i start consuming animal cut..

i have Animal Cut, Scivation Xtend, Creatine and Syntha-6. my current intake:

wake up: animal cut, 30mins later syntha-6
morning: breakfast
before lunch: sipping Scivation Xtend
afternoon: lunch
after lunch: continue sipping the left over Scivation Xtend
late afternoon: animal cut
post workout - syntha-6 with creatine, 30mins later Scivation Xtend
night: dinner

inputs appreciated, thanks in advance

may i know your stat, height? weight?
y suddenly animal cut in the picture?
y xtend b4 and after lunch?
???

Put some berries in, be it frozen blueberries or fresh strawberries. It'll surely cover the taste!

There's one thing I've learnt about bad tasting protein powders, you can't do shit to cover it up. Not pin-pointing muscle infusion. But bad tasting shit in general.

thanks for your reply janson_kaniaz. i'm 173cm tall with 85kg now and currently trying to cut and hence with the animal cut, i'm utilizing xtend for recovery. actually i wrote wrongly in my previous post, the xtend is during my workout..

So what were u sipping before and after lunch? Creatine should be taken pre workout as well as post.

y take nothing b4 workout?

[quote=mikehuan,Apr 23 2012, 10:35 PM]
So what were u sipping before and after lunch? Creatine should be taken pre workout as well as post.

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hi mike, what i meant was on the bold and underline portion at below. still sipping xtend before and after lunch. i'll take note on the creatine on pre-workout, thanks!

wake up: animal cut, 30mins later syntha-6
morning: breakfast
before lunch: sipping Scivation Xtend
afternoon: lunch
after lunch: continue sipping the left over Scivation Xtend
late afternoon: animal cut
post workout - syntha-6 with creatine, 30mins later Scivation Xtend
night: dinner

[/quote=janson_kaniaz,Apr 23 2012, 10:47 PM]
y take nothing b4 workout?
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any suggestion on what else to take before workout?

Food. About 2-3 hours before workout out.

[quote=bigtree,Apr 23 2012, 10:52 PM]
hi mike, what i meant was on the bold and underline portion at below. still sipping xtend before and after lunch. i'll take note on the creatine on pre-workout, thanks!

wake up: animal cut, 30mins later syntha-6
morning: breakfast
before lunch: sipping Scivation Xtend
afternoon: lunch
after lunch: continue sipping the left over Scivation Xtend
late afternoon: animal cut
post workout - syntha-6 with creatine, 30mins later Scivation Xtend
night: dinner

[/quote=janson_kaniaz,Apr 23 2012, 10:47 PM]
y take nothing b4 workout?
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any suggestion on what else to take before workout?

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Lots of supplements. I'm envy of you. You started long? Do you really know why you are eating this and that?

what else? i dont see u take anything at all... u train fasted or wat?
i realise u try to take xtend throughout the day and i did that sometime ago but let me tell u it makes no difference. eat enough and rest enough, and u don't need so much xtend, really.
u can also ditch animal cut, if u fixed your diet.

Wake up: Syntha-6
30 mins later: breakfast
between meals if hungry: syntha-6 with peanut butter or something
afternoon snack: anything high protein and low fat e.g spinach, tuna and the sort
pre-workout: 1 scoop Xtend
intra-workout: 1-2 scoops Xtend
post-workout: Syntha w/ creatine
night: dinner
before sleep: casein/other protein (since you seem to have a lot of supps)

save your xtend for pre and intra workout, so much money to buy xtend