Best weight/mas gainer for around rm200??

What's everyone's recommendation on pre-workout? Thinking of trying one out for myself

totally agree with you both. Only taking creatine right now. Occasionally some type of protein powder if i feel im running behind on macros, or too lazy to cook/eat.
Just had some extra cash lying around so thought i might treat myself
Coffee just doesnt have that kick that makes me want to lift something stupidly heavy :/

gaining mass can just be drinking weight gainer coupled with solid meals, thats why it called weight gainer.

the reason this forum dislikes weight/mass gainers is because the stuff in gainers are just plain bad.
if you've looked at the labels for gainers, its usually like 200g+carbs and only 50g+protein. thats a awful ratio.
not only that, the stuff in them aren't usually 'good' quality.
plus the price for the servings makes it stupidly expensive.

@ItsWL : if you're interested in weight gainers, buy standard whey protein and make your own.
simply oatmeal/peanutbutter/banana/milk/whey can make alot healthier and caloric dense gainer.
be sure you know what your body needs though. too much and youll just get fat quickly.

when you're getting payed to eat, sleep, and lift, then you can eat that much
plus he's most likely probably taking a whole lot more than weight gainers

we all knew what i meant


on topic: any recommendations on where to get wrist WRAPS?

EDIT: WRAPSSSSSSSS

This post has been edited by Kaffatsum: May 7 2013, 06:57 AM

What are you benching now .___.
got a picture? if its too expensive, ill prolly just make a makeshift one. any type of benching, curling, or supination of the wrists hurt :/

DID I WRITE STRAPS
I MEANT WRAPS

question still stands

No idea what everlast one youre talking about.
But the right picture in alien9's post.

Gloves bad.

I really dont see the purpose of gloves. thats why i dont use them. my grip is fine with or without them. maybe for sweat?
I dont really mind the calluses. The only real issue is when they rip off when i do heavy pulling :/ then theres blood all over my hand and thats when gripping becomes a problem


haha, i know what their used for
thanks. will check them out

I didnt take any supps for the ~first year of training seriously. This benefitted me in 2 ways. It taught me to train 'hard' without the aid of PWOs. It also taught me to eat if i wanted to grow. I cant recall the amount of times that the phrase "eat 'til you puke" has actually happened to me.

The first supps you should have is some type of protein powder and creatine. The powder makes gaining weight alot easier and creatine helps you lift heavier. Other supps like PWOs,fish oil,multivitamins,etc can be held off til later IMO.
Maybe someone else can chime in on needed supps? but you should do some basic research on your own as well.

I'd even go so far as to say creatine is better than any type of whey/protein.

edit: but you dont need it. if you can get your required p intake from food, then you dont need protein powder.

This post has been edited by Kaffatsum: Jul 28 2013, 11:32 AM

yup, i think creatine is no doubt better than protein powder. but id rather have someone starting off with supps to get protein powder instead of creatine. Creatine wont make you grow, protein powder will. After they know how much they need (to grow) and if they can get it from food, then they can ditch the protein.

Does anybody know of a vendor where you can buy supps in bulk (for a good price/shipping/etc.) ??

edit: doesnt have to be local. international vendors are fine as long as the shipping price isnt absurd..

This post has been edited by Kaffatsum: Mar 16 2014, 07:29 AM

Comparing different whey proteins, most are essentially the same thing. There are only some minor differences when comparing them, like how many grams of carbs or fat are in a serving. Protein content is roughly the same in all of them (20-25g/serving).
Taste is dependent on the person.
Mixability varies. Or you know.. you can shake the bottle harder.
There are few things to consider when buying. How many grams of protein in a serving, how many servings in a tub, total protein in a tub, total protein divided by the cost, cost per serving, etc. These stuff are important to consider when trying to get the most of your money.
Its advisable to buy products from large well-known reputable companies such as ON, Gaspari, Dymatize, etc.

The best fat burner is the treadmill + proper nutrition + time
sorry, never used fatburners before.

hahahaha.
thats really smart, albeit a weird way to verify if a product is faked or not.