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Job Title : Video Butcher
Job Desciption : Video Editing
Years spent in company : 3+
Company : Local post house
Industry : Media / Communications
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : not sure. exec i guess since i'm dept. head.
Experience before joining : freelance / internship with same co. (1 1/2 yrs)
salary : RM 3k+

Job Title : c# .net r&d programmer
Ae:31
Job Desciption : doing r&d,testing, development work
Years spent in company : 5+
Company : Local company
Location:KL
Industry : IT/ Business intelligence
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : senior exec
salary : RM 5k +
benefits: just normal, no allowance or insurance
increments :10%,1-2 months bonus depends on performance

is this consider under paid or over?

This post has been edited by CoMMie: Mar 7 2011, 10:57 AM

Job Title: SPS Analyst
Ae:28
Job Description : SharePoint administration and minor development works
Years spent in company : newly join
Company : international bank
Location: Selangor
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Exec
salary : >RM5k
benefits: bank benefits

Its o.k for industry average but you should think about your next step in your career already, perhaps in management/leading.

Time to update mine for 2011

Job Title: Sr software dev
Age: 27
Job Description : Design develop test deploy
Years spent in company : 2.5y
Company : SME
Location: SG
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Exec
monthly salary : SGD8.3k basic
benefits: standard medical

Job Title: IT Sales
Age: 32
Job Description : Inside Sales
Years spent in company : 3yrs
Company : MNC
Location: MY
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior Exec
monthly salary : ~MYR14K (last drawn annual 175k)
benefits: standard

Age: 25
Job Description : Mechanical Design Engineer
Years spent in company : 1 year 8 months
Company : Japanese
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Fresh grad
Education Level : Degree
Current Salary : RM 2.7k
Benefits: Medical & Dental , OT=RM7/hr+ meal allowance(RM10)
Working hours : Mon-Fri (8- 5.30pm)

I feel my current salary only allow me to save hundred bucks. Am i underpaid??

Any1 know?

i've got salary like yours..even lower...but i save more than 1k...
it depends on your lifestyle...

r u underpaid?
no in my opinion...fairly market rate

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Added on March 7, 2011, 8:40 pmPlus, u have OT to claim!!!
where to get man!

This post has been edited by jitshiong: Mar 7 2011, 08:40 PM

@masconan
U are really spending like a king then. I save at least RM900 - 1.3k a month when I was earning 10% less than u. I have OT claims as well though.

Maybe because I got Car Loan monthly that is about RM600 n petrol also. tht why cant save much.

@Masconan
I get roughly RM3.3k - RM4k after OT and allowances claims. I spend RM1.2k on my house installment.. and RM300 on average on petrol because I travel to clients place everyday.

Chances are you are spending too much.

mind tell me wer u graduate from??
malaysia university or singapore??

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Added on March 7, 2011, 11:27 pmmind tell me which univerity u graduated from??
local or singapore??

This post has been edited by teckyuan: Mar 7 2011, 11:27 PM

Then your OT rate must be very high or u OT like no day n night. Because my OT only able to cover back my EPF n Socco deduction.

Job Title : Sales Exec
Job Desciption : Sales (Electrical Field)
Years spent in company : 1/2
Company : Chinaman
Industry : Electrical
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Sales & Marketing in FMCG industry
Experience before joining : In a way fresh grad (Interviewers said never been in electrical field b4 despite being in sales)
Education Level : Degree
Current Salary : RM 1.8k
Benefits: Petrol (RM300/mth), Car Maintenance (RM300/mth)
Working hours : Mon-Fri (8-5.30pm)

I mean, honestly, is this underpaid? I feel like..... like crap. No commission even if i brought rm200k to company in 2months. =="

Anyhow, side-track abit, can i ask..... Isit correct/ethical if company do not want to accept Medical Certs? My company based in Klang Valley, i went to Johor, fall sick and take MC. Come back KL, they reject my MC. Unfair or acceptable? Regards to all.

if someone is not local, meaning to say that they have to rent a room out there and pay everything by himself, maybe he still can save but i dont think he can save much.

and if u r local and staying wit yr family then you might able to save more if compared to others.

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Added on March 8, 2011, 9:18 amunfair for me.

This post has been edited by ZestoR: Mar 8 2011, 09:18 AM

@masconan
Well, view it how you may wish. Your savings depends on yourself. 40 - 50% of my salary is usually gone when it comes in due to commitments and yet I can still save 900 - 1.3k per month. Its really how you spend it.

Local college in Subang... why u ask?

cs i heard other ppl say which university u graduated from will influence your pay..

and most sg company don't look at Malaysia univeristy cert.
This is y malaysian hard to get a job in singapore..



It this wat happen is the real world???

ob Title : supervisory
Age: 23
Job Desciption : supervise insurance company
Years spent in company : 8 months
Company : BNM
Location:KL
Industry : Insurance
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : senior exec
salary : RM 2.9k
benefits: just normal, got clubhouse lanai kijang, 75% off at selected 5 stars hotel at sabah sarawak
increments :2-4 months bonus depends on performance

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Added on March 8, 2011, 3:53 pmmy friend graduated from uitm, continue doin acca at uk... not even finish. came back and work at singapore.



This post has been edited by saigetsu: Mar 8 2011, 03:53 PM

Not true.
I've tons of friends working in SG with Malaysian Uni certificate.

Me too..few friends working there and enjoy 9-10months bonus...

Job Title : engineer
Age: 28
Job Desciption : project engineer
Years spent in company : 1 yr +
Exp before joining : 3.5 yrs
Company : MNC
Location:KL
Industry : Oil & Gas
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : hard to explain but i guess is low
salary : RM 6k+
working hrs : average 11 hrs per day (worst hrs ever for me)
benefits: medical, nothing special
increments : less than 5% (^$%*@#) the company said i have high salary to begin with and i said wtf (in my heart)...
standard bonus - 1 to 2 mths

I'm thinking about finding other job.. wondering whether i should clock in some more time..
anyone has any job offers can let me know ...

3.5 years for RM6k + isnt that bad what..
but bonus seems low..

3.5 years of exp with RM 6k++??? wow!!!!! mind telling me which company u r working rite now? :-) I'm alos in a same industry with a same exp.. work in MNC company (see my provious post in thread V3) but only got 4.2k...T_T so sad...

Job Title : Site Engineer,Quantity Surveyor,Site Acquisition
Age: 22
Job Desciption : Basically, I do everything including drawing.
Years spent in company : 2 months
Exp before joining : 1 year personal exp.
Company : T3 Irish company
Location: Selangor
Industry : Telco
Tenure : 1 year
Employment Level : Not sure
salary : RM 2.5k + 4.5k for each acquisition. So far 7 acquisition done in 2 months. Hopefully will get more.
working hrs : 10am-5.30pm.
benefits: nothing much other than phone bills claim, outstation allowance. No meal claim.
increments : 40% increment after 1st site tower erect.


Was hoping they pay me in Euro lol. but thats not gonna happen.

Job Title: Software developer (VB.net)
Age: 28
Job Description : Research, Design, Develop, Test, Deploy
Years spent in company : Just joined
Exp before joining : 2.5 years
Company : SME
Location: SA
Industry : IT
Basic salary : 3.2K

I graduated late

Every month savings near to - level

Nolah I'm close to 5 yrs exp now...
my company would be worst place to go amongst the operator...
try Shell.. definitely more than this...

Job Title: Network Engineer
Age: 27
Job Description : client support, operation, project, troubleshooting
Years spent in company : 2 years 9 months
Exp before joining : 6 months
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Tenure : permanent
Location: KL
Basic salary : 3.1K

Feel envy of those age below <25 but have already earning for more than 3K+ basic salary.

This post has been edited by ReginaJune: Mar 9 2011, 09:03 PM

@reginajune
Erm I do think you are seriously underpaid. You have 3 years experience. Fresh grads could potentially earn more than you at the moment.

basically wut is ur jobscope?quite good pay...at ur age u able to earn 5 figure is very good...somemore 40% increment..

Hi Kelvin,

But i do have RM200 extra per month for standby weeks/calls allowance and also any OT activities after office hour is claimable per hour for me, and of course millage claim for traveling to customer sites too.

Still, after almost 3 years, i agreed and also think that i should start a new one to move on forward.

Erm Regina.. its true you can get more than what you have listed out... but I have 1 year exp only.. and I can earn slightly more than double your basic salary during peak seasons (please, not boasting or anything, its just that I believe employers nowadays tend to underpay employees and I do hope for the best for you as well).

FYI i'm in IT field as well but in system implementations.

This post has been edited by kelvin_tan: Mar 9 2011, 11:28 PM

By the way, you have any IT certification such as CCNP/CCNA , etc?

Considering an offer now:

Job Title: Senior Manager, Finance
Age:33
Job Description : Finance & Tax
Working experince: 8 years
Company : local listed company
Location: Selangor
Salary : RM9.5k
Benefits: company car with petrol allowances, hand phone, medicals & etc

Is this okay?

@kelvin_tan

Ha, I agreed, just doing some searching/surveying the standard value of market pay for me here.

@wh0cares

Yes, i have some networking ccna & ccnp cert but i obtained it when i was already working for this company.

This post has been edited by ReginaJune: Mar 10 2011, 12:04 AM

@nemo2
Ur package is not bad since a company car is provided for you with petrol allowances. Getting your own car would be very costly and its a depreciating asset.

Mr. Kelvin Tan or any one here,

I posted here before, was asking whether a fresh graduate with 1 yr work exp will make much different compare to a fresh graduate (with no exp) in terms of pay. I didnt have enough reply yet, hence I want to ask again This time I will provide clearer statement here so Kelvin or anyone please suggest

I am basically on 12 month student work placement (internship) with Kellogg's Great Britain at the moment, work in Maintenance Department. Job scope is basically very close to the engineers in the department, which include leading projects, assist engineers in projects and planning maintenance strategy and stuff, planning preventative maintenance etc . .

What I would like to know is roughly in what range of pay will I be offered when I come back to my Home country

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Added on March 10, 2011, 5:23 amOf course that is a bullshit bro! Dont let that saying affect your confidence! In real world, employer hire people based on how suitable is the candidate to the job! If you can show your skills and share your exp to the employer which can reflect how fit you are in the position, you will definitely be considered and if they cant find any one better matching than you, then it's yours !



This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 10 2011, 05:23 AM

@sunofabeach
Nobody answered you because your question is so vague. 1 year working exprienc as a dumpster vs 1 year experience as an engineer. The pay difference is so huge here.

State the position and industry. Be specific.

Generally fresh grads executive positions in malaysia range from RM1.6k - RM4.5k.

Super OK for me

I'm thinking the same too... thanks!

@nemo
The pay is neither high nor low.. but coupled with the benefits you have a pretty package Wonder when will I get there. Its such a long journey and I'm just starting mine.

Salary can rise up to RM9K+ with just 8 years of experience, it's pretty good indeed.

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Mar 10 2011, 03:53 PM

Im doing the site survey and acquisition for telco tower which all sites located in sabah. total have around 50 sites or more for this year. so far i had done survey + acqu for 7 sites. 40% increment only after 1st tower erect from site which must be before end of april so working hard to make sure it is really happening or else no increment.

I would nt be asking here if I have an idea about the position and industry. Any way appreciated your comments

Your time will come.. be patient
I hope it will be another starting point to me as well... yet to decide ... headache

@sunofabeach
Am I right to assume you are still studying?

Anyway, if you are looking for answers, provide sufficient details in order for fellow forumers to help you.

Indeed I am still pursuing my degree. I know there is no solid answers for my questions, was wondering if someone could share the point of views so that I can roughly have a better insight on fresher pay Malaysia.

So far, most thing I heard is still not very convincing . .

How come there's no auditor/accountant sharing their salary here? Please someone share it as I'm deciding to study account soon >_< I'd like to know how long an accountant/auditor have to work and how much they are paid, thank you very much ><

@sunofabeach
then I'll cut you a break. Since you do not have working experience yet.

Fresh grads pay can start at 1.6 - 4.5k.

RM1.6k jobs are mostly found out of Selangor/ KL although there are still companies that pay that amount in selangor / kl. Generally degree jobs should pay between 2.2k - 2.8k assuming you are an average performer.

Jobs that pay above 2.8k usually are management trainee programs / jobs that require you to be offshore / or if you are the best and manage to management consultancy firms like McKinsey (USD3k starting pay in malaysia), Boston Consulting, etc.

IT role standard pay (Not designing job) RM2.2k - RM4k
Finance pay is pretty standard. RM2.3k - RM3.3k
Engineering (Not Oil and Gas) RM2.2k - 2.8k
Engineering (Oil and Gas) RM3k - RM7k

All the above is based on degree qualifications. Anybody, please feel free to correct me.

This post has been edited by kelvin_tan: Mar 11 2011, 03:47 PM

AFAIK, rough rough average.. if is to compare EM-WM

when WM
Certificate = RM1000 - 1200
Diploma = RM1400 - 2200
Degree = RM1800 - 2500

EM should be
Certificate = RM600 - 900
Diploma = RM1000 - 1200
Degree = RM1200 - 1500


true story

Hi! I'm considering a job,

Job Title: Customer Service Helpdesk *Japanese Speaker
Age:31
Working experince: 5.5 years(nothing related in IT but as R&D engineer in a manufacturing company located in Japan)
Company : MNC
Location: Selangor
Salary : RM5.5k
Working hours: Three shift 8-4, 4-11, 11-7 (night shift 30%). This is approximately.
Benefits: medicals, maternity,vision, shift allowance 300-500 per month. NO BONUS!

Is this okay?

This post has been edited by kittychan: Mar 11 2011, 03:20 PM

@kittychan

errr why do u wanna change into a Call Center environment from R&D engineer?

@kelvin chan

I can't find a job with a good salary in Malaysia as an R&D engineer. Besides that it seems that Malaysia doesn't offer a lot of R&D jobs.

Correction

Engineering (O&G) RM3k - RM7k

@Brc
Ahhh forgot to include offshore yes.. 3-7k then.

my friend who was working with one of slb segment got USD3k++ for basic (before layoff "beramai-ramai")...I dont know now...

@meonkutu11
As much as we are hearing that, I dont think there has been reliable information on it so far. Which is why I was dubious. But nevertheless, that can happen in the OnG industry

Is my current 12 months workplacement with Kellogg's Great Britain not considered as working experience?

Not sure what is that but the way you mentioned it, it seems like internship? But 12 months is pretty long.

Yes that is what you call internship in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 11 2011, 09:34 PM

@sunofabeach
then that doesnt count as working experience. It just counts as you have done something extra during ur uni time.

I am so confused right now

The jobscope I have been doing within this 12 months (in fact it's a year out full time job) includes the engineers responsibility such as leading projects, assist engineers in planning preventative maintenance, designing maintenance strategy, lead some maintenance meeting and currently have been given 1 experienced mechanics and 1 experienced electrician to work for me etc. .Besides that, i am oftenly being sent to join courses that is compulsory for engineers in my company too. Are all this not considered as working experience?? Oh my goodness. . what kind of jobscope would be considered as proper working experience then ?? can anyone explain

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 12:20 AM

Job Title: control instrument technician
Age:25
Working experince: fresh grad (4years work oredi)
Company : electric producer
Location: negeri sembilan
Salary : RM1.8k (basic)
Working hours: 8.30am-5.30pm
Benefits: medicals, maternity,stand by allowance 150/month, housing allowance 300/month Bonus - 2 month contractual, 4 month performance (this year), and 6 month loyalty bonus after 3 years serve....rm500 if no mc whole year, unlimited overtime(currently rm13/hour )


so far, im glad working here....very flexible and all the bosses were great....

@sunofabeach
If u call an internship a job, then everyone has had working experience. I had an internship prior to getting my job.

I still cant figure out why situation in Malaysia is so not encouraging

Even with the current placement I am doing,it sounded like the experience that I gain from work currently has no difference from a student who is carrying on the degree then

So the fact is work placement experience is a process of earning pocket money and will not be appreciated / recognised by anyone out there?

How about someone here could explain to me how is a so called '' proper working experience'' in an engineering field like?

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 01:37 AM

Job Title : IT Support Executive
Job Desciption : Provide a single-point-of-contact for its staff to deliver a full range of IT support services including problem diagnosis, resolution, installation, service request, maintenance, asset tracking and reporting.
Years spent in company : Just Start
Company : Malaysia
Industry : Water treatment
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining : Integrated Technology Specialist (7 yrs)
salary : RM 5.5k+


Am I under paid?

This post has been edited by jovialjean: Mar 12 2011, 02:02 AM

@jovialjean
I think yes you are underpaid. 7 Years experience shouldnt be paid that low.

No one could even give some opinions regarding to my confusions??

If you think the 12months that you've spent for this internship is a fruitful experience, just put it into you CV and present yourself during interviews.

You don't need ppl to keep telling you what you need to say or write in your CV.

One of the main qualities that great interviewers in big organization looked for is the confidence of interviewees in believing what they can/could achieve.

Such qualities are the type that's gonna leave a deep impression on the interviewers.

If you compare to a 2-3 years programmer in current market, I think its a little underpaid.

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Added on March 13, 2011, 2:10 pmI think you are good enough. 5 working days consider normal for this pay in your industry.

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Added on March 13, 2011, 2:13 pmKinda unfair in this way, sales should give commission. Depends company policy, they provide you so salary with petrol, they expect you should bring sales in in SALES term.

This post has been edited by JenLOI: Mar 13 2011, 02:13 PM

@sunofabeach
Lets put it this way alright? And this is going to be harsh but DO NOT THINK TOO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF.

Your internship experience helps enhance your chance of securing the job / interview but it is by no means considered real working experience. Do not expect a senior pay when you come out for your first job. Everyone starts from the bottom.

usually people will just put internship experience as other experience..

@SunofaBeach

i did my internship in company A and after finish i done with my 6 internship, i continue to work with Comp A. guess what, i am getting the same pay with other freshie.

p/s during my internship, i work like cow. carry out own research and analysis and present it in front of managers, work more then 12hours per day and work over the weekend are just normal.

Internship is internship
working experience is working experience.

No doubt internship experience will enhance your resume and gives u a better chance at securing an interview / job.

However, when you go out and look for a job, never look at urself as "an experienced worker".

"True knowledge exist in knowing that you know nothing"

I see myself as a fresher and that's why I am here posting questions, thought I could see you guys sharing your experience and opinions. I just dont understand why you guys like to say things in a harsh way I didn not mean to challenge anyone or get into anyone's nerve in this thread at all.

@sunofabeach
Pardon me on that. I just tell out my points without beating around the bush. It is a harsh reality when you come out to work sadly:(

If I did offend you, I apologize. I was just stating out my points in the most direct manner and hopefully you will view it constructively.

All I can see now from here is the environment is not encouraging and this could make more youngsters facing pressure in moving towards the begining of career

@sunofabeach
Would you rather me tell you that the workforce is full of rainbows and butterflies with fairies sparkling gold and silver dust everywhere?

This is to prepare people to face the working world which is harsh.

I dont know about you people encouraging youngsters out there.

Myself would nt say things like this to youngsters. Everyone knows the fact working is not easy, but at least letting youngsters begin the career and learn all the way with confidence. Sharing experience to youngsters is fine, but depressing them at 1st before they even have the chance to experience it. . I think that is not quite a right way.

Anyway, that's just my thought,again I do not mean to challenge anyone in here.

@sunofabeach
well, to each of his own. View it constructively or just view it as I'm scaring the younger generation away.

Another way of looking at it, learn it now or learn it later. I would choose to learn it now and be prepared for it.

No objection, indeed learning from now and be prepared is not a bad move.

So far I can only realised one thing which is when I come back to this country one day , learn and be prepared to face harsh people and harsh environment. Maybe this is the way how people react and speak in this country which I still cant see a point why it must be like this.

Anyway cheers for the suggestions and thoughts, appreciated.

@sunofabeach
Malaysia cannot be compared to wherever you are (I think UK ? mentioned in earlier post?). Working in Asian related countries, you are always expected to work hard (Our auditors in Malaysia sometimes work 70 - 80 hours a week or more).

Politics exist everywhere even in the country you are in right now (maybe not so extreme but it still exists). It depends on how smartly you play the game. Hence why some people say street smarts is more important than book smarts.

Not all industries are that scary though.

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This post has been edited by xiaomahe: May 23 2011, 11:27 AM

May i know what is your role as associate consultant?

i dunno bout everyone else ... but i think 2.8k for a fresh grad is very high ...

in fact most will get 2.2 - 2.4k and this applies to most field ...

and to get 3.5k ... thats seriously high ...

successful youngsters don't come here to get encouraged

they work their butts off to equip themselves with sufficient skills to bargain for a good offer in the market..

***Welcome to the REAL world***

P.S: and to use ->> repeatedly is just pure disrespect for those who think they wanna give some constructive advice to you. Good luck to you if you intend to keep that kind of attitude in the future.

lol

Job Title : IT Channel Account Manager
Age : 23
Job Desciption : Look out for new sales,new resellers , basically call salesman job !
Years spent in company : 1+
Company : Local Chinaman
Industry : ICT
Tenure : permanent
Experience before joining : 8 years experience in IT line + sales !
salary : RM 2k,after deduct epf became RM 1,780. Petrol , toll , parking , handphone can claim.

Whatever you wanna say, I have said all my saying was purely to understand the working environment in this country, and didnt mean to challenge or show inrespect to anyone. That is just my own disappointment.

I dont see this icon is offending anyone, if this icon really does, it should have been removed by mod. Just feel sorry to see this situation and what could be more upset is it all happen like it should be .. lol

Anyway, I am gonna make a stop here just to prevent more people misunderstand.

@sunofabeach
well, you are in a different country which has different cultures and values compared to this country. Thats just how the picture is in Malaysia.

Indeed.

I don't know why people like to share it in a harsh tone. Can't it be an active way to coach one another? Why does it must be a harsh tone? I know some people would take advantage of you if you are not firm in your view but this doesn't suit every one.

I admire those "60s" and "70s" people's professionalism, but for sure I will not take them as example to improve my interpersonal skill.

One who can't adapt different communications skills to different people isn't that great in my eyes at all.

Malaysia can't compare to european countries, doesn't mean Malaysia culture is RIGHT.

Don't you think giving someone guidance in an active way would show better impact on him? Active guidance is always look at the strengths and talents one has, there then the person will gain confidence and acknowledgement of themselves. Sad to say, what I have seen here are all about passive comment, which is maximizing the "mistakes" and "weaknesses" one has. You want others to point out your every mistake and not to look at what brilliant jobs you have done? Why always view a life from a passive angle?

@debbiesys
I never once mentioned that Malaysia culture is RIGHT. You are assuming. I was just explaining that this is how Malaysia is. There is no right and wrong in each countries culture. Its just who we are.

Like I said, for my points, view it constructively or take it as I'm scaring youngsters away. Each person views things differently. Some would like to face the worst case scenario and prepare for it and avoid it.