Mr. Kelvin Tan or any one here,

I posted here before, was asking whether a fresh graduate with 1 yr work exp will make much different compare to a fresh graduate (with no exp) in terms of pay. I didnt have enough reply yet, hence I want to ask again This time I will provide clearer statement here so Kelvin or anyone please suggest

I am basically on 12 month student work placement (internship) with Kellogg's Great Britain at the moment, work in Maintenance Department. Job scope is basically very close to the engineers in the department, which include leading projects, assist engineers in projects and planning maintenance strategy and stuff, planning preventative maintenance etc . .

What I would like to know is roughly in what range of pay will I be offered when I come back to my Home country

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Added on March 10, 2011, 5:23 amOf course that is a bullshit bro! Dont let that saying affect your confidence! In real world, employer hire people based on how suitable is the candidate to the job! If you can show your skills and share your exp to the employer which can reflect how fit you are in the position, you will definitely be considered and if they cant find any one better matching than you, then it's yours !



This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 10 2011, 05:23 AM

I would nt be asking here if I have an idea about the position and industry. Any way appreciated your comments

Indeed I am still pursuing my degree. I know there is no solid answers for my questions, was wondering if someone could share the point of views so that I can roughly have a better insight on fresher pay Malaysia.

So far, most thing I heard is still not very convincing . .

Is my current 12 months workplacement with Kellogg's Great Britain not considered as working experience?

Yes that is what you call internship in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 11 2011, 09:34 PM

I am so confused right now

The jobscope I have been doing within this 12 months (in fact it's a year out full time job) includes the engineers responsibility such as leading projects, assist engineers in planning preventative maintenance, designing maintenance strategy, lead some maintenance meeting and currently have been given 1 experienced mechanics and 1 experienced electrician to work for me etc. .Besides that, i am oftenly being sent to join courses that is compulsory for engineers in my company too. Are all this not considered as working experience?? Oh my goodness. . what kind of jobscope would be considered as proper working experience then ?? can anyone explain

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 12:20 AM

I still cant figure out why situation in Malaysia is so not encouraging

Even with the current placement I am doing,it sounded like the experience that I gain from work currently has no difference from a student who is carrying on the degree then

So the fact is work placement experience is a process of earning pocket money and will not be appreciated / recognised by anyone out there?

How about someone here could explain to me how is a so called '' proper working experience'' in an engineering field like?

This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 01:37 AM

No one could even give some opinions regarding to my confusions??

I see myself as a fresher and that's why I am here posting questions, thought I could see you guys sharing your experience and opinions. I just dont understand why you guys like to say things in a harsh way I didn not mean to challenge anyone or get into anyone's nerve in this thread at all.

All I can see now from here is the environment is not encouraging and this could make more youngsters facing pressure in moving towards the begining of career

I dont know about you people encouraging youngsters out there.

Myself would nt say things like this to youngsters. Everyone knows the fact working is not easy, but at least letting youngsters begin the career and learn all the way with confidence. Sharing experience to youngsters is fine, but depressing them at 1st before they even have the chance to experience it. . I think that is not quite a right way.

Anyway, that's just my thought,again I do not mean to challenge anyone in here.

No objection, indeed learning from now and be prepared is not a bad move.

So far I can only realised one thing which is when I come back to this country one day , learn and be prepared to face harsh people and harsh environment. Maybe this is the way how people react and speak in this country which I still cant see a point why it must be like this.

Anyway cheers for the suggestions and thoughts, appreciated.

lol

Whatever you wanna say, I have said all my saying was purely to understand the working environment in this country, and didnt mean to challenge or show inrespect to anyone. That is just my own disappointment.

I dont see this icon is offending anyone, if this icon really does, it should have been removed by mod. Just feel sorry to see this situation and what could be more upset is it all happen like it should be .. lol

Anyway, I am gonna make a stop here just to prevent more people misunderstand.

debbieyss

Whichever path that suits your interest would be excellent

Of course when I said interest does not mean to ask you to give up your current career. What I intended to encourage is to choose which job that you think is more enjoyable, less frustration to you etc..

I know many people out there does not even enjoy a single minute of their work but still they carry on due to 'comfort zone', unwilling to change or some other reasons. To me, it is very hard to perform well in a role if you do not even develop some interest at first.

SG is good i heard, many moves there for better pay If you can find a suitable role, why not

I would leave this question to the employer that how much they are offering for this role which sounds like a Saints