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post Jun 1 2010, 02:58 PM, updated 16y ago

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ASTRO B.YOND V1.0

ASTRO B.YOND V2.0

ASTRO B.YOND V3.0

ASTRO B.YOND V4.0

Welcome......

Now we are in Version 5 and dedicated to bring info about B.yond PVR....please refer to back thread about other information about b.yond.


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Astro B.yond Personal Video Recorder (PVR)
Astro introduces the latest innovative recording function which enables you to RECORD, REWIND, PAUSE and PLAY your favourite programmes, including those on HD. You don’t have to miss a single programme and television moment again. Now, you can record all your favourite programmes and watch them at your own convenience. It’s TV your time. Anytime, any day. The PVR will also be able to support exciting new features such as video-on-demand offerings in the future.

The recording service is available via Astro B.yond Personal Video Recorder (PVR) box and Astro B.yond External Hard Disk Drive PVR.

Features:

Watch One Channel and Record Another Channel
With the dual-tuner feature in the Astro B.yond PVR, you can:
a) record up to two channels at one time, or
b) watch one live channel while recording another at the same time, or
c) watch one recorded program while recording another two at the same time

*Recording function with external hard disk drive as a Plug ‘N’ Play PVR can only record and watch one channel simultaneously or record one programme at any one time.

Recording Functions:
a) Record instantly – record the current programme you are watching by just clicking the Record button on your remote control
b) Record by programme – convenient recording via the new on-screen TV Guide and Info banner

Planner:
a) All your scheduled recordings will be displayed prominently on the Planner for easy reference, and
b) Astro B.yond PVR will also automatically check on the space availability in the built-in hard disk, and
c) Live Tuner Conflict (When recording more than two programmes simultaneously, a conflict message will appear to warn you of the conflict).

Rewind Live TV:
This feature gives you the ultimate control to rewind Live TV and enjoy unprecedented instant replays of missed action in normal speed, fast forward speed, or in slow-motion.
a) The Rewind buffer is set at 30 minutes as default and the maximum limit is up to 90 minutes. If you want to adjust the rewind buffer period, you can change its setting.
b) When you switch channel, the buffer will resets itself every time you switch the channel. You will lose the review buffer and the review buffer will auto reset to the current channel that you are watching.

Pause Live TV
This feature allows you to pause Live TV while attending to other matters, and play it again when you are ready to resume watching the show where you left it.

Fast Forward
The fast forward speed of 4x, 8x, 16x, 30x gives you the freedom of time control.
It is even capable of fast forwarding by 15 minutes interval.

Slow motion mode
This feature allows you to play scenes in slow motion at 1/10x, 1/4x and 1/2x mode.


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NEW CHANNEL IN HD....IT'S NOW 8 CHANNEL....
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Thanks lot to beatnickseed. Really helpful. Thanks to him.


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any diferent with normal one ?
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Congratulations rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
V5.0 already
welcome to the new "house" tongue.gif

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sifus, just got my Byond installed today...
my setup Byond decoder connect to AVR then AVR to Plasma...both are using HDMI cables...
when i select dolby digital 5.1,
why is the sound louder in HD channels but softer in normal channels? icon_question.gif
is there a way to fix this?
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 1 2010, 03:19 PM)
Yes, I know still need to pay RM20 for HD channel service.

What I mean is that I hope this new Chinese HD Zhi Zun channel is part of General package like the AEC channel which is free and not in Dynastry channel like Wat Lan Toi because if you do not subscribe to Dynasty package, then you also don't get the Zhi Zun HD if it is part of Dynasty package.


Added on June 1, 2010, 3:22 pmAstro mentioned that we have to purchase the external WD HDD ourselves if we use normal Byond box for PVR which they mentioned the cost is about RM299.

So, if everyone here DO NOT WANT to get the new Byond PVR box and opt for the external WD box, then all of us here get together and buy in BULK so that we can get CHEAPER PRICE.

Agree????
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as mentioned in V4, unfortunately, Chinese HD is bundled with Dynasty package, not family


QUOTE(abbychan87 @ Jun 1 2010, 03:02 PM)
any diferent with normal one ?
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PVR is for recording in HD

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sifus, just got my Byond installed today...
my setup Byond decoder connect to AVR then AVR to Plasma...both are using HDMI cables...
when i select dolby digital 5.1,
why is the sound louder in HD channels but softer in normal channels? icon_question.gif
is there a way to fix this?
thanks a lot smile.gif
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normal channels doesnt have dolbyy digital 5.1 output , just like the picture is not in HD:)
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QUOTE(cam40729 @ Jun 1 2010, 03:32 PM)
as mentioned in V4, unfortunately, Chinese HD is bundled with Dynasty package, not family
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vmad.gif shakehead.gif cry.gif ARRHHHH.............Chinese HD is in Dynasty package !!!!!

I don't have this.......well, easy come easy go !!!

OK....when is the Astro v2.0 firmware to be uploaded to our Byond decoder and also WHEN is this PVR start to function?


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i dont think they will tie in WD HDD recognition in their FW code. mind you that they only say current recommended HDD is WD HDD passport 320GB.. the key word is recommended.


which means they only done testing with the particular HDD (probably due to the power and speed)

dont see there's any show stopper for us to switch to other HDD if met their power and speed requirement. i would bet other 320GB +power saving feature will work just fine.. perhaps SSD too

no idea about 500GB since i would assume it will consume more memory buffer (not sure about this)
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post Jun 1 2010, 03:39 PM

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Lucky I still retained my AstroMax - one b.yond ripoff crap and one Max is adequate

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Yeah.......I have a WD 750G external hard disk bought about 2 years ago and if this can hook up to Byond and can do recording, then I will definitely go for it. No need to buy another WD HDD.
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QUOTE(abbychan87 @ Jun 1 2010, 03:02 PM)
any diferent with normal one ?
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what makes you ask this?


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post Jun 1 2010, 04:03 PM

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any new channel?
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QUOTE(opjust @ Jun 1 2010, 04:03 PM)
any new channel?
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From 16th June 2010 onwards....

AXN HD
Astro Zhi Zun HD
FX HD

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congrats... V5 already... cant wait for 16th June for the new HD Channels...
i wish they have star world hd soon...
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I'm sure....!!!

The keyword here is not recomended. It is COMPATIBLE! See the above advertisement and you can see the words. Please bear in mind that ASSStro is a money making company, and besides the piracy issue on recorded material, they must have some tie with WD on this. WD also produces many external HDD range. Notice that it mentioned "MY Passport AV" HDD. I have an inside info on this. And WD factory is just in PJ right?
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 1 2010, 04:04 PM)
From 16th June 2010 onwards....

AXN HD
Astro Zhi Zun HD
FX HD
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AXN HD is the best of the lot icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(doey @ Jun 1 2010, 04:13 PM)
I'm sure....!!!

The keyword here is not recomended. It is COMPATIBLE! See the above advertisement and you can see the words. Please bear in mind that ASSStro is a money making company, and besides the piracy issue on recorded material, they must have some tie with WD on this. WD also produces many external HDD range. Notice that it mentioned "MY Passport AV" HDD. I have an inside info on this. And WD factory is just in PJ right?
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right the word is compatible.. is not MUST. compatible means adhere to the spec determined by the astro box, not some tie-off on the HDD brand itself. it just mean that it guaranteed to work using the HDD in the compatible list and did not guarantee it can work on others.. it did not say for sure that it wont work with other HDD.. if it is the case, they should clarify it on the ads. sth like "not able to work with other HDD"
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will FX HD and FOX HD have the same programmes?
coz FX HD doesnt seem that good..
kind of tempted to get the variety package unless FOX is different to FX HD
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I think you have to look at bro TallJustin's posting in the other thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=34056577

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THe HDD must be a drive that meets our power consumtion white paper for the decoder and at the moment the only one that I'm aware of that does this is a WD HDD (I'm using a WD My Passport AV). Others suck up too much power and they will will not work.

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hmm where to find this WD My Passport AV? besides the shops listed in their page

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Their FAQ is quite interesting.

You can swap your astro max box for the new PVR for FREE, and you don't have to pay the MYR10 recording fee for the first 12 months.

If you don't want to lay a second cable to your new PVR, you can pay for some device which (I assume) amplifies the signal or something. However, it costs MYR300. sad.gif

I think I'll stick with my byond box and my max STB (I cannot lay another cable, don't want to pay 300MYR for an amplifier nor 10MYR a month for what I can already do for free). There's not that much on HD worth recording anyways. I do miss the pause feature though.
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sorry but i can t find any info as to where people said FOX SD will also be available..
what is the source?

if true then is FOX SD same as FX HD?

More interested in the new channels compared to PVR..
Astro will repeat the same programmes over the next 2 years anyway..

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cry.gif Those who gave up the Max for Beyond cannot get a waivwer must pay RM300. Astss cheated us, its very unfair !RM900 box taken back for RM80!! cry.gif
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Astro making money with this PVR. Last time we dont have to pay monthly fee when using MAX. Why right now they want charge us. Damm..
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Based astro facebook, It seem FXHD will be under preview channel.

So, Fox only in HD and no for SD. Astro 至尊HD / Astro Zhi Zun HD will be under dynasty package.



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Assstro maybe use the soft word like "compatible" to say that "other HDD might not work". My Intel told me that they tried with other WD 2.5" HDD model but the decoder does not recognise it, except that one particular model.
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 1 2010, 04:30 PM)
Their FAQ is quite interesting.

You can swap your astro max box for the new PVR for FREE, and you don't have to pay the MYR10 recording fee for the first 12 months.

If you don't want to lay a second cable to your new PVR, you can pay for some device which (I assume) amplifies the signal or something. However, it costs MYR300. sad.gif

I think I'll stick with my byond box and my max STB (I cannot lay another cable, don't want to pay 300MYR for an amplifier nor 10MYR a month for what I can already do for free). There's not that much on HD worth recording anyways. I do miss the pause feature though.
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I am with you here on this.
Most likely will get me a recordable media player and record the cr@p out of it and not pay a dime
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QUOTE(acexii @ Jun 1 2010, 04:42 PM)
Based astro facebook, It seem FXHD will be under preview channel.

So, free for everyone and HD for byond user. Astro 至尊HD / Astro Zhi Zun HD will be under dynasty package.
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r u sure?
most of the people here said that it will be under variety?


Added on June 1, 2010, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(natzakaria @ Jun 1 2010, 04:44 PM)
I am with you here on this.
Most likely will get me a recordable media player and record the cr@p out of it and not pay a dime
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but the sifus here said the PQ and format will not be the same as what u viewed during recording using media player recorder

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i think it's reasonable to roll under preview since Fox is a debut channel for astro subscriber.. normally that's what they do right when they introduce new channel? after that only will available for whatever package it sits into
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 1 2010, 04:30 PM)
Their FAQ is quite interesting.

You can swap your astro max box for the new PVR for FREE, and you don't have to pay the MYR10 recording fee for the first 12 months.

If you don't want to lay a second cable to your new PVR, you can pay for some device which (I assume) amplifies the signal or something. However, it costs MYR300. sad.gif

I think I'll stick with my byond box and my max STB (I cannot lay another cable, don't want to pay 300MYR for an amplifier nor 10MYR a month for what I can already do for free). There's not that much on HD worth recording anyways. I do miss the pause feature though.
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but there's no any way for the person like me who already "surrender" my max for Byond.... cry.gif sad.gif
If I know it will be like this, sure I will wait until June.... shocking.gif
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one more question......recorded film can play to other player...
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QUOTE(l_berd @ Jun 1 2010, 04:47 PM)
i think it's reasonable to roll under preview since Fox is a debut channel for astro subscriber.. normally that's what they do right when they introduce new channel? after that only will available for whatever package it sits into
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i agree..but is the FOX SD channel true?
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jun 1 2010, 04:48 PM)
one more question......recorded film can play to other player...
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Added on June 1, 2010, 4:52 pmfor existing beyond user who opt for RM5/per month - cant record n watch different channel rite?

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QUOTE(doey @ Jun 1 2010, 04:43 PM)
Assstro maybe use the soft word like "compatible" to say that "other HDD might not work". My Intel told me that they tried with other WD 2.5" HDD model but the decoder does not recognise it, except that one particular model.
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That means byond decoder have a problem. Actually what different between WD 2.5 with WD My
Passport AV 2.5
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 1 2010, 04:49 PM)
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Added on June 1, 2010, 4:52 pmfor existing beyond user who opt for RM5/per month -  cant record n watch different channel rite?
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even use the wd hard drive..... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 1 2010, 04:49 PM)
for existing beyond user who opt for RM5/per month -  cant record n watch different channel rite?
Yes. Cannot watch one live channel while recording another because it only have 1 tuner. sad.gif
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hai bro..
i have 1 question..i am a normal astro subcriber, not byond user...if i want to get this new pvr, can i still subcribre the normal package?( not byond hd package ) can i just pay additional $10 either than $30 ( byond + record funtion )? i just want to record just a normal channel on astro only.. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(fakhrul @ Jun 1 2010, 05:05 PM)
hai bro..
i have 1 question..i am a normal astro subcriber, not byond user...if i want to get this new pvr, can i still subcribre the normal package?( not byond hd package ) can i just pay additional $10 either than $30 ( byond + record funtion )? i just want to record just a normal channel on astro only.. cool2.gif
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dont think so..it comes as a package..any Byond Box will require u to sign up to HD package too..so yes extra RM20

*Just got confirmation from Astro's FB, FX HD and FOX SD programmes lineup will be different..
However no official confirmation as yet on whether FOX SD is coming..any source please?

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jun 1 2010, 04:55 PM)
even use the wd hard drive..... hmm.gif
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I think we can record live channel while watch our recording video.


Added on June 1, 2010, 5:20 pmI have one scenario here.
Let say I'm using Byond EHDD and record AXN HD, during a recording I switch to ESPN HD, what will happen to my recording? Is it fail or what?

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QUOTE(minimize @ Jun 1 2010, 05:09 PM)
I think we can record live channel while watch our recording video.


Added on June 1, 2010, 5:20 pmI have one scenario here.
Let say I'm using Byond EHDD and record AXN HD, during a recording I switch to ESPN HD, what will happen to my recording? Is it fail or what?
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 1 2010, 04:04 PM)
From 16th June 2010 onwards....

AXN HD
Astro Zhi Zun HD
FX HD
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wow wee rclxm9.gif is this for real...
cmon 16th june.. am waiting... drool.gif
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 1 2010, 03:41 PM)
Yeah.......I have a WD 750G external hard disk bought about 2 years ago and if this can hook up to Byond and can do recording, then I will definitely go for it. No need to buy another WD HDD.
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as far as i know, Byond box doesnt work with other external disks, even for the WD AV Hard Disk, you cant view in PC or other Byond boxes, only able to view it on your Byond box.

QUOTE(fakhrul @ Jun 1 2010, 05:05 PM)
hai bro..
i have 1 question..i am a normal astro subcriber, not byond user...if i want to get this new pvr, can i still subcribre the normal package?( not byond hd package ) can i just pay additional $10 either than $30 ( byond + record funtion )? i just want to record just a normal channel on astro only.. cool2.gif
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Yes, you can. Not necessary to choose HD channels for PVR
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Astro making money with this PVR. Last time we dont have to pay monthly fee when using MAX. Why right now they want charge us. Damm..
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RM5.00 per mth just to activate the recording capability of tht decoder which is already there!!?? ... man thts not fair
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 1 2010, 05:25 PM)
wanna know too
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ONly one tuner you see what that u record ! End of the day I tjhink the PVR for #00 seems to be the best solution. Cos 320 GB 100GB is RESERVED for VOD ! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cam40729 @ Jun 1 2010, 05:41 PM)
as far as i know, Byond box doesnt work with other external disks, even for the WD AV Hard Disk, you cant view in PC or other Byond boxes, only able to view it on your Byond box.
Yes, you can. Not necessary to choose HD channels for PVR
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if hv just called them... western digital AV passport and plug in to your b'yond box and call them... and pay them RM5.00/mth eternally.. thts all u need
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It's a shame for those who traded in their astro max boxes. Keeping it would have saved them MYR420.

Does anyone have any details on the device astro is selling so you don't need to lay 2 cables? I just did up my TV room and the sat cable is behind the fixed cabinet. I can't add another if I do choose to get the new box sad.gif
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QUOTE(minimize @ Jun 1 2010, 05:09 PM)
I have one scenario here.
Let say I'm using Byond EHDD and record AXN HD, during a recording I switch to ESPN HD, what will happen to my recording? Is it fail or what?
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I think these are possible scenario:
- Software prevent you from changing channel
- It will ask confirmation to really changing channel then it will stop/continue recording
- You can change channel but your recording will be affected too
- Maybe other possible scenario, just wait & see


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Does anyone have any details on the device astro is selling so you don't need to lay 2 cables? I just did up my TV room and the sat cable is behind the fixed cabinet. I can't add another if I do choose to get the new box sad.gif
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No you can't. HD channel using higher frequency, you can't share cable with other tuner using same LNB.

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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 1 2010, 06:00 PM)
It's a shame for those who traded in their astro max boxes. Keeping it would have saved them MYR420.

Does anyone have any details on the device astro is selling so you don't need to lay 2 cables? I just did up my TV room and the sat cable is behind the fixed cabinet. I can't add another if I do choose to get the new box sad.gif
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I am taking up this matter with them and the Consumers Tribunal,cos we were MISLED into swapping the max hmm.gif
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jun 1 2010, 05:45 PM)
if hv just called them... western digital AV passport and plug in to your b'yond box and call them... and pay them RM5.00/mth eternally.. thts all u need
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Did they mention only 320GB can be use?
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jun 1 2010, 07:43 PM)
RM5.00 per mth just to activate the recording capability of tht decoder which is already there!!?? ... man thts not fair
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Agree, this is daylight robbery. I wouldn't mind paying one off activation fees or whatsover.. but a monthly commitment ?*sigh*
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 1 2010, 06:00 PM)
It's a shame for those who traded in their astro max boxes. Keeping it would have saved them MYR420.

Does anyone have any details on the device astro is selling so you don't need to lay 2 cables? I just did up my TV room and the sat cable is behind the fixed cabinet. I can't add another if I do choose to get the new box sad.gif
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to use a single cable with dual-tuner PVR, you must use a device called Stacker-De-stacker (SDS), apparently it will cost your RM300 brows.gif
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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jun 1 2010, 06:13 PM)
Agree, this is daylight robbery. I wouldn't mind paying one off activation fees or whatsover.. but a monthly commitment ?
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There are several (if not most of them) Pay TV operator around the world also charging monthly fee for their recording function
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this image is taken from astro very own web-page showing the complete line-up of HD channels at this stage

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what is FX HD? and which package does it belongs in?
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Ok, going to subscribe to byond online now, what should I fill in

* Block/Building Name :
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?? cause I live in terrace house, got Jalan number and Taman only
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Did they mention only 320GB can be use?
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well... i didnt ask them tht question...

somehow i dont think they are well trained on this thing yet...

cos she kept asking me to hold on lol
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 1 2010, 06:31 PM)
Ok, going to subscribe to byond online now, what should I fill in

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?? cause I live in terrace house, got Jalan number and Taman only
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how about "none" brows.gif
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Anyone here maybe have order the new PVR decoder or Buy WD My passport AV HDD tongue.gif
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Anyone here maybe have order the new PVR decoder or Buy WD My passport AV HDD tongue.gif
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My kids want it just signed online for PVR ,on the other f.... them up for misleading me to surrender Max, see what happens. hmm.gif
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how about "none" brows.gif
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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 1 2010, 06:21 PM)
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this image is taken from astro very own web-page showing the complete line-up of HD channels at this stage
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Yay V5 oredi... woohoo...

well this is quite good... FX and AXN will be my new fav channel.. btw... they promised 10 channel by end on 2010 rite?? so got 2 more spot to fill.... I wonder what will it be... Disney HD hahahahaha biggrin.gif
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So the new channels are:
AXN HD
FX HD
Some chinese HD

Someone was talking about Fox, or Fox crime coming too. Has this been confirmed?
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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Jun 1 2010, 06:57 PM)
Yay V5 oredi... woohoo...

well this is quite good... FX and AXN will be my new fav channel.. btw... they promised 10 channel by end on 2010 rite?? so got 2 more spot to fill.... I wonder what will it be... Disney HD hahahahaha biggrin.gif
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btw... the worldcup channel not included in those 10 channel rite?
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i hope star world and star movies HD...  rclxms.gif
btw... the worldcup channel not included in those 10 channel rite?
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nod.gif Nope. Just like temp. ch124 for AF8.
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I am taking up this matter with them and the Consumers Tribunal,cos we were  MISLED into swapping the max hmm.gif
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FYI, I have called Astro and explain I'm keeping both Max and B.Yond and they didn't want to swap my decoders to PVR at F.O.C. as my Max was disactivated during my last upgrade to B.Yond. last year.

They advice me to reconnect my Max and disconnect my B.Yond by paying penalty for my remaining contract period.
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anyone have firmware 2.0 yet?
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wll guys, as a normal astro subscriber and considering my options to upgrade to b.yond pvr, is that means I need to pay RM20/month on top of my current subscription and additional RM10/month for recording purposes?

So my subscription which is Rm119.95 will be RM119.95 + RM20 + RM10 = RM150??

Correct me if im wrong but I feel paying monthly for recording is ridiculous.
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QUOTE(dannychen @ Jun 1 2010, 08:20 PM)
FYI, I have called Astro and explain I'm keeping both Max and B.Yond and they didn't want to swap my decoders to PVR at F.O.C. as my Max was disactivated during my last upgrade to B.Yond. last year.

They advice me to reconnect my Max and disconnect my B.Yond by paying penalty for my remaining contract period.
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WD Passport AV 320GB costs RM289 according to Compu-zone pricelist shakehead.gif

Freaking expensive for a 320GB!
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 1 2010, 07:38 PM)
WD Passport AV 320GB costs RM289 according to Compu-zone pricelist shakehead.gif

Freaking expensive for a 320GB!
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 1 2010, 07:40 PM)
Compare that to Astro HD-PVR, and? hmm.gif
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I;m still thinking about it now... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 1 2010, 08:38 PM)
WD Passport AV 320GB costs RM289 according to Compu-zone pricelist shakehead.gif

Freaking expensive for a 320GB!
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Astro charge RM299... biggrin.gif
and existing Byond user pay RM300 for the Byond PVR installation..

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My monthly bill too has exceeded RM150 so no choice after WC goodbye to Sports Pack,just too bad ! cry.gif
Anyone has the email of Henry Chia CEO of Astro or any big heads of astro ? Why email to Astro at wecare@ astro.com.my no more automated reply ?

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My monthly bill too has exceeded RM150 so no choice after WC goodbye to Sports Pack,just too bad ! cry.gif
Anyone has the email of Henry Chia CEO of Astro  or any  big heads of astro ? Why  email to Astro at wecare@ astro.com.my  no more automated reply ?
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Me too. But i've take sport package specially for WC 2010. So after that, i swap that with Dynasty.tongue.gif
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QUOTE(willkso @ Jun 1 2010, 07:50 PM)
Astro charge RM299... biggrin.gif
and existing Byond user pay RM300 for the Byond PVR installation..
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But PVR RM10 monthly, existing Byond pay RM5 monthly laugh.gif

Seriously charging money to enable something which is there in the first place is ridiculous doh.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 1 2010, 07:59 PM)
Me too. But i've take sport package specially for WC 2010. So after that, i swap that with Dynasty.tongue.gif
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Dynasty are more expensive than sports actually tongue.gif
It's SUPER PACKAGE you know.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 1 2010, 08:06 PM)
But PVR RM10 monthly, existing Byond pay RM5 monthly laugh.gif

Seriously charging money to enable something which is there in the first place is ridiculous doh.gif
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THey got away with so many ridiculous moments as long they remain the sole one u cannot touch them take it or leave it ! cry.gif
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looks like I'm gonna stay away fm B.yond pvr at this moment as it's ridiculous to paying recurring fees just for recording purposes.

all thanks to the monopolise business by astro...
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zzz..have to pay again for recording services
what a bunch of pirates
i aint paying for sh**
if i wanna rewatch sth i might as well download it from the net!
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jun 1 2010, 07:52 PM)
My monthly bill too has exceeded RM150 so no choice after WC goodbye to Sports Pack,just too bad ! cry.gif
Anyone has the email of Henry Chia CEO of Astro  or any  big heads of astro ? Why  email to Astro at wecare@ astro.com.my  no more automated reply ?
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Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for contacting Astro Contact Centre. We have received your recent email and our Correspondence Unit will be responding to you within the next business day.

For immediate clarification on our products and services, you may also refer to our website at http://www.astro.com.my or alternatively contact our Customer Service at 1 300 82 3838.

Please note our working hours are from Mondays to Fridays between 9am to 9pm and Saturday, Sunday 9am to 1pm.

Regards,
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 1 2010, 08:22 PM)
Dynasty are more expensive than sports actually  tongue.gif
It's SUPER PACKAGE you know....  biggrin.gif
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as what they said,
they have to pay high license fee to TVB,
that's why when we choose the package with Wah Lai Toi,
we have to pay a lot. sad.gif
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Published: Tuesday June 1, 2010 MYT 5:31:00 PM

Astro launches B.yond PVR
BY SHAUN HO


KUALA LUMPUR: Astro has launched its B.yond PVR (Personal Video Recorder), which allows subscribers to record, pause, rewind and play television programmes broadcast by Astro.

"This service is available immediately and we expected 100,000 out of our targeted 500,00 HD (high-definition) subscribers to upgrade their service," said Astro CEO Datuk Rohana Rozhan at the launch here Tuesday.

Current Astro customers will need to pay an installation fee of RM300 for the new unit and return their old sets. New customers will have to pay RM400.

Customers who choose to upgrade to the service have two options - buy an external hard-disk drive to plug into their standard B.yond HD decoder or upgrade to B.yond PVR.

They will need to pay RM5 for the first option, and RM10 for the second option, monthly, for the recording service.

The product will replace Astro’s previous foray into personal video recording, Astro Max, which was launched to limited customers in 2006.

"There are about 26,000 Astro Max subscribers, and we are offering to swap their units with the PVR for free.

"We will also give them a one-year subscription for free," Rohana added.

Astro chief operating officer Henry Tan said currently, only one model of external hard disk was compatible with the standard B.yond box, the Western Digital My Passport AV 320GB.

He said a list of retailers selling the item can be found on Astro’s website.

Astro also launched three new HD channels, which will be available from June 16, bringing the total number its HD channels to eight.

Video recording comes to Astro B.yond

By TAN KIT HOONG

Astro Malaysia launched the B.yond Personal Video Recorder (PVR), a set-top box with a built-in hard disk that allows you to record up to two channels at the same time.

Similar to the original Astro MAX set-top box, the B.yond PVR also allows the user to pause and rewind live TV, as it uses a buffer system which saves 30 minutes (and can be set up to a maximum of 90 minutes) of the currently watched programme by default.

Also, the B.yond PVR comes with a dual tuner, which allows users to record two channels simultaneously, or alternatively, to watch a previously recorded programme while recording two other channels.

However, if the user is currently watching a live TV channel, only one other channel can be recorded during this period.

The built-in hard disk on the B.yond PVR is 500GB in size, which allows for up to 290 hours of standard definition recording or up to 100 hours of high-definition content.

However, due to the dual-tuner function, there will be extra wiring work involved as the PVR requires a special outdoor unit and dual cables to be installed together with the set-top box.

A one-time installation fee of RM400 will be charged for new subscribers, while existing subscribers need only pay RM300 for installation and have to return their current decoder.

Henry Tan, chief operating officer for Strategy, Content & Marketing for Astro, and Datuk Rohana Rozhan, Astro chief executive officer, launching the B.yond PVR

The good news is that subscribers who bought the original Astro MAX recorder will be able to swap to the B.yond PVR for free.

Additionally, there will be an RM10 monthly charge for the recording service.

Not willing to pay the installation fee and the additional RM10 monthly fee for the PVR but still want the recording feature?

You're in luck as the current B.yond set-top box can also be turned into a video recorder by simply plugging a Western Digital My Passport AV external hard disk into the B.yond box's USB port.

Users will also need to call Astro to activate the service and there will be an additional RM5 charge per month.

According to Shahrul Imran, vice-president of Technology and New Media at Astro, only the Western Digital MY Passport AV hard disk drive is currently certified to work the with the B.yond box, although the company is working to certify other brands and models.

The Western Digital external hard disk is not provided by Astro, and can be bought from any third party vendor.

However, the main difference between the B.yond PVR and the external hard disk option is that the PVR has a dual tuner while the regular B.yond box only has one, which means you cannot watch one channel while recording another.

Also, Astro announced that three new HD channels will go live on June 16 - AXN HD, Astro Zhi Zun HD and FX HD.

For more information, call 1-300-82-3838 or visit astro.com.my/byond.

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I was asked on V.4 "why can"t I use my1 TB powered HDD"

The WD My passport AV HDD has been the only HDD that has passed the requirements of having a low power consumption and several other criteria. They tested lots of HDD and many have a built in reboot function when left on longer then 24 hours, this of course would interrupt a record. Most are just too heavy on sucking the juice during power up.

I think then rather then just opening it up for any old HDD which could cause poor recording or even damage the decoder they have made a white paper and at the moment only the WD My Passport AV 320GB passes it.


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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 1 2010, 06:21 PM)
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this image is taken from astro very own web-page showing the complete line-up of HD channels at this stage
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Wonder what is CH310 show ?? TVB drama in HD ??? anyone know ?
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The firmware up grade enabling this feature is tonight.


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Now I wonder how's the interface of Byond PVR?? hmm.gif
If i live in KL, sure already go to Midvalley to catch the PVR Roadshow. But unfortunately, my place are too far from KL... sad.gif
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Hi Justin, may I know what model is the PVR? Still Pace?
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:16 PM)
The firmware up grade enabling this feature is tonight.
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Other than recording functions, is the any other changelog to this new firmware... And does B.yond PVR has the same interface/GUI as normal B.yond decoder??
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QUOTE(kelvin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:15 PM)
Wonder what is CH310 show ?? TVB drama in HD ??? anyone know ?
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hi Kelvin, could you please translate to me what is the mean of Zhi Zhun in english? thx...
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hi Kelvin, could you please translate to me what is the mean of Zhi Zhun in english? thx...
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至尊HD kua..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:16 PM)
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Is it for all B.yond or B.yond with PVR enabled only? hmm.gif
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至尊 zhi zun:epitome?
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Should be: New Emperor package...
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According to Babelfish:

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just got my astro byond installed today... when the installer was here, everything was working fine.. signal strength 201..

but when i tried out the byond just now.. the decoder kept hanging.. reboot.. after 5 mins.. hang again..

how come lar?
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if anyone is interested, in order to use single cable, this is the frequency stacker/destacker device I found out from the net, astro may not use the exact device:
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 1 2010, 09:06 PM)
But PVR RM10 monthly, existing Byond pay RM5 monthly laugh.gif

Seriously charging money to enable something which is there in the first place is ridiculous doh.gif
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Advantage of the PVR is the dual tuner. Can watch 1 channel while record another or record 2 channel when not watching. Existing Byond can't do that. Indeed it's ridiculous to charge money to enable the recording function as previous Astro Max didn't charge anything..
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wat u guys prefer

as for me i wan a new PVR Byond as it only cost rm10 extra mthly and i dun nid to buy external HDD

how big capacity is the PVR Byond internal HDD?

thx
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 1 2010, 10:55 PM)
wat u guys prefer

as for me i wan a new PVR Byond as it only cost rm10 extra mthly and i dun nid to buy external HDD

how big capacity is the PVR Byond internal HDD?

thx
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500GB but 100GB will be reserved for VOD.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jun 1 2010, 09:18 PM)
Other than recording functions, is the any other changelog to this new firmware... And does B.yond PVR has the same interface/GUI as normal B.yond decoder??
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The GUI the same.

There is now the 3rd option for viewing a channel.

Pillar Box and Fit to screen (the current options) and the 3rd one specifically for 4:3 channels that letterbox their output (like Discovery). this option is called LB Expand (for LetteBox Expand). Basically it is the zoom feature that was on briefly before but tweaked a little bit so it's not so much zoom as before. Anyway as I said it is not for use as a default setting but to be used when a programme on a 4:3 channel letterboxes their programme. Like the other aspect ratio change you can control this directly from your remotes AR button.

The firmware upgrade is for all b.yond decoders.


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QUOTE(dannychen @ Jun 1 2010, 09:17 PM)
Hi Justin, may I know what model is the PVR? Still Pace?
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yeah Pace.

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if i apply for the astro b.yond PVR, when the technician will come and fix it? my astro max is spoil now.

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QUOTE(deShinyDevil @ Jun 1 2010, 10:06 PM)
if i apply for the astro b.yond PVR, when the technician will come and fix it? my astro max is spoil now.
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dun worry they wont knoe brows.gif

jux dun on your max when they come laugh.gif


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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 10:00 PM)
The GUI the same.

There is now the 3rd option for viewing a channel.

Pillar Box and Fit to screen (the current options) and the 3rd one specifically for 4:3 channels that letterbox their output (like Discovery). this option is called LB Expand (for LetteBox Expand). Basically it is the zoom feature that was on briefly before but tweaked a little bit so it's not so much zoom as before. Anyway as I said it is not for use as a default setting but to be used when a programme on a 4:3 channel letterboxes their programme. Like the other aspect ratio change you can control this directly from your remotes AR button.

The firmware upgrade is for all b.yond decoders.


Added on June 1, 2010, 10:06 pm
yeah Pace.
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we nid your advice, which option to take for current Byond users?

the rm5 or the rm10 / mth option?

wat time is the update start and how long will tat take?

thx

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 1 2010, 10:09 PM)
dun worry they wont knoe brows.gif

jux dun on your max when they come laugh.gif


Added on June 1, 2010, 10:11 pm
we nid your advice, which option to take for current Byond users?

the rm5 or the rm10 / mth option?

wat time is the update start and how long will tat take?

thx
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haha.

I can't tell you what to do.

Do you want a dual tuner with built in HDD then get the PVR. If you want the ability to record and understand that you can't watch another channel during the record then get the plug and play option.

I don't know what time the upgrade starts or how long it takes sorry, it's best just to put your decoder into standby when you go to bed and in the morning it will have done it. history says that it will be after midnight and probably before 1am. Remember this is not a dynamic update you must put your decoder into standby and it could take 5 minutes before it even detects that there is an update ready to install before it begins the upgrade process.


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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 1 2010, 10:09 PM)
dun worry they wont knoe brows.gif

jux dun on your max when they come laugh.gif

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i mean if i apply tomorrow, do i have to bring the decorder to the office? and how long does it take for them to come to my house and install the astro b.yond pvr after i apply?
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the RM300 for upgrading to byond PVR we have to pay to installer or they will include in the next bill?
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QUOTE(sufian89 @ Jun 1 2010, 10:37 PM)
the RM300 for upgrading to byond PVR we have to pay to installer or they will include in the next bill?
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pay to installer... just like Byond


Added on June 1, 2010, 10:41 pm
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if anyone is interested, in order to use single cable, this is the frequency stacker/destacker device I found out from the net, astro may not use the exact device:
user posted image
user posted image
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It looked really complicated to me... cry.gif
That's why they charge RM300 for that devices...
same price as other set of Byond PVR shocking.gif


Added on June 1, 2010, 10:41 pm
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EXTRME HD icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks... all for the translations rclxms.gif
So, the english for that channel will be Astro Extreme HD drool.gif


Added on June 1, 2010, 10:47 pmI think, I will opt for the new PVR instead. brows.gif really missed my moments with Max six moths ago... cry.gif

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Tall Justin,
Can I use any WD My Passport AV after byond PVR function enable?
I mean, if my 1st HDD is full, I just swap with new HDD & use it straight away?
Another thing is HDD need to format for initial use?
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i think it's unfair for max users who switched to beyond just 6 months ago and are denied the new pvr for free. I still have my max since i opted to pay for installation when i fixed beyond, but cs says nothing doing...still have to pay 300 bucks!! A huge load of bullshit if you ask me and typical kampung mentality of a so called international broadcaster!! I'm making a report at the consumer tribunal in the morning on this issue. At least astro should provide the pvr for free for those who still keep their max decoders. Astro = monopoly=unethical practices!!
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QUOTE(aceedburn @ Jun 1 2010, 10:55 PM)
i think it's unfair for max users who switched to beyond just 6 months ago and are denied the new pvr for free. I still have my max since i opted to pay for installation when i fixed beyond, but cs says nothing doing...still have to pay 300 bucks!! A huge load of bullshit if you ask me and typical kampung mentality of a so called international broadcaster!! I'm making a report at the consumer tribunal in the morning on this issue. At least astro should provide the pvr for free for those who still keep their max decoders. Astro = monopoly=unethical practices!!
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:14 PM)
I was asked on V.4 "why can"t I use my1 TB powered HDD"

The WD My passport AV HDD has been the only HDD that has passed the requirements of having a low power consumption and several other criteria. They tested lots of HDD and many have a built in reboot function when left on longer then 24 hours, this of course would interrupt a record. Most are just too heavy on sucking the juice during power up.

I think then rather then just opening it up for any old HDD which could cause poor recording or even damage the decoder they have made a white paper and at the moment only the WD My Passport AV 320GB passes it.
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You guys are crying over spill milk. What's the use complaining to the authorities? When Byond first came out and you saw the hardware and noticed the "recording" button, you should have asked what's that all about. If they had fail to give you an answer (of which they have no answer anyway), then adopt the wait and see attitude. You don't go complaining when for example you buy a car today with no airbag but lo and behold they install one on the next batch for about the same price? Same with you don't go complain to Intel when they come with a faster processor when you just bought yours. Ditto mobile phones or any other gadgets.

The thing is, there will always be an upgrade. It's whether you have the patience to wait for next one. But since you didn't..oh well.
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If power is a constraints, how about HDD using external power?
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if i apply for the astro b.yond PVR, when the technician will come and fix it? my astro max is spoil now.
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If power is a constraints, how about HDD using external power?
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Yeah, that's what I was repling about, use of an externally powered HDD. None meet the requirements yet.

This is a world first guys, no where in the world has this option. It will I'm sure make other HDD manufactures step up their game.

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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 1 2010, 11:08 PM)
gud point... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I honestly do not think this is due to power constraints, but rather firmware / drivers issues. I am sure when Astro develop the current decoder's software, they have that external hdd in mind. Depending on how much time / effort (man hour = cost) they want to spend to develop for any other external HDD. They will definitely offer more than just one, but don't expect a lot.

Who knows some other external hdd might also work... will know once more ppl pay for the additional RM5 fee rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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i signed up at Midvalley today for the pvr. think it is worth it especially i would now be able to watch on demand rather than linear stream. the time saved is money. so 10ringgit is well worth.
But notice the pvr is without ff, so we would have to watch axn will all the commercial.


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:00 am
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what is FX HD? and which package does it belongs in?
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should be together with AXN else it would be in the Starworld range of numbering
so at least Astro did not make us take the Starworld package to watch FX rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 1 2010, 11:54 PM)
i signed up at Midvalley today for the pvr. think it is worth it especially i would now be able to watch on demand rather than linear stream. the time saved is money. so 10ringgit is well worth.
But notice the pvr is without ff, so we would have to watch axn will all the commercial.


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:00 am
should be together with AXN else it would be in the Starworld range of numbering
so at least Astro did not make us take the Starworld package to watch FX rclxms.gif
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What! No fast-forward!!?? icon_question.gif
so, i only can rewind program? Like that? OMG!!

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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jun 1 2010, 07:08 PM)
i hope star world and star movies HD...  rclxms.gif
btw... the worldcup channel not included in those 10 channel rite?
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discovery hd could be one of the channel
perhaps starsports hd
or another could be pegging with starworld package so something like 731??


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What! No fast-forward!!??  icon_question.gif
so, i only can rewind program? Like that? OMG!!
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so that some channels subsidized by ad revenue will not complain eg AXN HD sad.gif

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There is a fast forward function. I use it all the time.
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There is a fast forward function. I use it all the time.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 2 2010, 12:06 AM)
There is a fast forward function. I use it all the time.
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Ohh... Thank God!  biggrin.gif
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their marketing material mentioned only 4 buttons to use
record
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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 2 2010, 12:09 AM)
their marketing material mentioned only 4 buttons to use
record
rew
play/pause
stop
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just saw Astro's facebook stated FX HD as 'Preview channel' shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif means a month or so later, it will be part of some other package whereby you need to pay extra? vmad.gif mad.gif

Why can't we have a proper freeview channel??? We should shut down RTM, took out that slot of others....
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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 2 2010, 12:09 AM)
their marketing material mentioned only 4 buttons to use
record
rew
play/pause
stop
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so, you have sign up for that PVR?
I'm still thinking about that... haha....
maybe tomorrow will make the conclusion whether I wanna subscribe or not... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 2 2010, 12:12 AM)
so, you have sign up for that PVR?
I'm still thinking about that... haha....
maybe tomorrow will make the conclusion whether I wanna subscribe or not...  biggrin.gif
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get it for WC so need not sleep late
but well would still need to watch thru since no ff mad.gif
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Obviously you can't fast forward a linear broadcast, we didn't invent a time machine.
You can fast forward after you pause or rewind or on playback
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QUOTE(cycloneopp @ Jun 2 2010, 12:12 AM)
just saw Astro's facebook stated FX HD as 'Preview channel'  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif  means a month or so later, it will be part of some other package whereby you need to pay extra?  vmad.gif  mad.gif

Why can't we have a proper freeview channel???  We should shut down RTM, took out that slot of others....
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but if we see their numbering format 701-708 are freeview like AXN to 8tv. and starworld starts from 710 onwards so if it is under starworld bouquet it would be numbered 73* and not 72*
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Time now is 12.23am.
My Byond is rebooting by itself and then now doing Software Update


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:24 am
QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 12:22 AM)
Time now is 12.23am.
My Byond is rebooting by itself and then now doing Software Update
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77% now.

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HAiyoo...complaint non stop la you guys... smile.gif

Consumer fight with money...don't subscribe if you don't think it's not worth it.

To me personally time is money. If I can watch any TV/programs ANYTIME I LIKE...then what is RM5 or RM10 a month?

And to those of you who bought the wrong HDD coz you guys never ever learn...then nasib laa...Complaint untill the goat comes home with the monkeys also no use. Go and buy WD HDD in LYN it's only RM265 the last time I checked.

For those who used to have Max then changed to B.yond already and interested to swap to PVR and still enjoy the privileges ...PM me your details...let me see if I can help you...no promises though. Don't complain to MCMC or SKMM...waste of your time only lah. Nothing the law can do for you guys.

Aside to Justin,
Metadata...get it done pls...can't wait for it to be up and running. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 12:22 AM)
Time now is 12.23am.
My Byond is rebooting by itself and then now doing Software Update


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:24 am

77% now.
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100% software update DONE !!!!

Rebooting now !!!
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 12:22 AM)
Time now is 12.23am.
My Byond is rebooting by itself and then now doing Software Update


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:24 am

77% now.
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Can't wait to see your response (as well as the general public) on the latest software upgrade.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 2 2010, 12:17 AM)
Obviously you can't fast forward a linear broadcast, we didn't invent a time machine.
You can fast forward after you pause or rewind or on playback
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are we on the same page
are you referring to your astromax?
i am referring to byond pvr
and of course on linear you could only back track (since it could store up to 90min of spooled video on the channel it is switched-on on), pause (buffer) and play
but it ought to have ff to catchup especially through the commercial break, but from their marketing materials it appears there isn't a ff button

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DONE !!!

My Byond has automatically updated !!!!
It is v2.0s !!!!


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:28 amNow there is a PLANNER in the Menu.



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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 2 2010, 12:26 AM)
are we on the same page
are you referring to your astromax?
i am referring to byond pvr
and of course on linear you could only back track (since it could store up to 90min of spooled video on the channel it is switched-on on), pause (buffer) and play
but it ought to have ff to catchup especially through the commercial break, but from their marketing materials it appears there isn't a ff button
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For recorded programs...you CAN fast forward...as in skip the commercial. There is a FF button. Look at the current B.yond Remote. all the buttons are there.
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Well........nothing can be done.........because no HDD......and PVR functionality not available to me. Hehe.
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Aside to Justin,
Metadata...get it done pls...can't wait for it to be up and running. biggrin.gif
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successfully updated my Byond to V2.0s
Not much change really
But the EPG is up and running straight away..
No more "No information available' again..
Got Press Record function now on EPG..
As well as the Planner in Menu

aahhh..Zoom mode is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKKKK..! tongue.gif
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Now when I press the PLAY/REC/REW etc button..........it says PVR not functional because I dun have PVR yet.

And as what TAllJustin said........there is a new strectch called LB expand. But when I choose this LB expand,it still stretch until the Astro logo or Channel logo GONE !!!! Much lke last time the Zoom stretch.


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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 2 2010, 12:26 AM)
are we on the same page
are you referring to your astromax?
i am referring to byond pvr
and of course on linear you could only back track (since it could store up to 90min of spooled video on the channel it is switched-on on), pause (buffer) and play
but it ought to have ff to catchup especially through the commercial break, but from their marketing materials it appears there isn't a ff button
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yes we are on the same page but you're mistaken as the function is there on both the PVR & the plug & play HDD.

Trust me, I've tested it.
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hey..
i just double checked and yes
FX HD is a preview channel when it is launched..
How long it remains that way is anybodys guess..
So the numbering and all..just forget about it..

However..i also checked again and Astro have confirmed FOX SD will be available on the same day as the other HD..

Anyone knows how FOX and FX lineup will be like?

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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 2 2010, 12:36 AM)
yes we are on the same page but you're mistaken as the function is there on both the PVR & the plug & play HDD.

Trust me, I've tested it.
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so you are astro insider
already have byond pvr

so there is ff for linear catch up and ff for recorded viewing?
yes great rclxms.gif
made the right decision

only now the problem is if the installer could use my tv antenna cable as the 2nd coax cable (fingers cross)
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QUOTE(fhdclub @ Jun 2 2010, 12:42 AM)
so you are astro insider
already have byond pvr

so there is ff for linear catch up and ff for recorded viewing?
yes great rclxms.gif
made the right decision

only now the problem is if the installer could use my tv antenna cable as the 2nd coax cable (fingers cross)
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U must be new here bro..
TallJustin is not an astro insider..
He works for them
He works on their technical side..
n FYI..he is part of the team that developed Byond and this new PVR..
Thats y he has tried everything..
Everything new to us is old news to him..
Hes the best in the business and help out a lot..
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Oh stop it!

I work closely with the guys that make it happen. They do the real work.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:16 PM)
The firmware up grade enabling this feature is tonight.
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At about 00:15am just now, my Byond auto-update and the PVR option appear rclxms.gif
Next step is to call CS rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jun 1 2010, 07:38 PM)
WD Passport AV 320GB costs RM289 according to Compu-zone pricelist shakehead.gif

Freaking expensive for a 320GB!
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Check out in Lelong or Mudah, below RM240. blush.gif
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 12:24 AM)
HAiyoo...complaint non stop la you guys... smile.gif

Consumer fight with money...don't subscribe if you don't think it's not worth it.

To me personally time is money. If I can watch any TV/programs ANYTIME I LIKE...then what is RM5 or RM10 a month?

And to those of you who bought the wrong HDD coz you guys never ever learn...then nasib laa...Complaint untill the goat comes home with the monkeys also no use. Go and buy WD HDD in LYN it's only  RM265 the last time I checked.

For those who used to have Max then changed to B.yond already and interested to swap to PVR and still enjoy the privileges ...PM me your details...let me see if I can help you...no promises though. Don't complain to MCMC or SKMM...waste of your time only lah. Nothing the law can do for you guys.

Aside to Justin,
Metadata...get it done pls...can't wait for it to be up and running. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dsubra @ Jun 2 2010, 12:51 AM)
Check out in Lelong or Mudah, below RM240.  blush.gif
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lelong or mudah has great price then as dealer cost is nearly 270
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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 12:49 AM)
At about 00:15am just now, my Byond auto-update and the PVR option appear  rclxms.gif
Next step is to call CS rclxm9.gif
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You got your External HDD already or NOT????

Call them first and then once activated, just plug in any HDD to test it.

Then, let us know the result !!!!

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Firmware update complete.. stoopid zoom mode is back but at least they retain stretch mode altho picture looks cropped a bit.


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:59 amFirmware update complete.. stoopid zoom mode is back but at least they retain stretch mode altho picture looks cropped a bit.

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 2 2010, 12:33 AM)
...aahhh..Zoom mode is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKKKK..! tongue.gif
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Now, no more FFSS liao, YESSSSSS rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 12:54 AM)
You got your External HDD already or NOT????

Call them first and then once activated, just plug in any HDD to test it.

Then, let us know the result !!!!

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I have couple of external HDD, will test gao-gao tongue.gif
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When I am in HD channel and I press the Fit-to-screen/PillarBox button, the selection is LetterBox/Fit-to-screen/CenterCut.....

What is this Center Cut option?

Anyone notice that?

Although there is no different in HD channel for this, but I wonder what is that...............


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QUOTE(nidunalza @ Jun 2 2010, 12:59 AM)
Firmware update complete.. stoopid zoom mode is back but at least they retain stretch mode altho picture looks cropped a bit.


Added on June 2, 2010, 12:59 amFirmware update complete.. stoopid zoom mode is back but at least they retain stretch mode altho picture looks cropped a bit.
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there's no cropping for fit to screen mode. Don't start pls. Spend some time first before concluding.

QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 01:00 AM)
Now, no more FFSS liao, YESSSSSS  rclxm9.gif
Can't wait to call CS 1st thing tmr morning  tongue.gif
I have couple of external HDD, will test gao-gao  tongue.gif
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don't waste your time. I can assure only WD my passport AV works. You end up damaging the HDD and/or the box later baru tahu. Been testing both pvr and byond with wd hdd since the last 2 months so trust me.


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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 01:06 AM)
When I am in HD channel and I press the Fit-to-screen/PillarBox button, the selection is LetterBox/Fit-to-screen/CenterCut.....

What is this Center Cut option?

Anyone notice that?

Although there is no different in HD channel for this, but I wonder what is that...............
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centre cut is the old Zoom mode that was introduced for a very short time previously. Created a lot of hoopla that time.

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IF we use external HDD, can we view the recording on our pc other than Byond?
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 01:06 AM)
there's no cropping for fit to screen mode. Don't start pls. Spend some time first before concluding.
don't waste your time. I can assure only WD my passport AV works. You end up damaging the HDD and/or the box later baru tahu. Been testing both pvr and byond with wd hdd since the last 2 months so trust me.


Added on June 2, 2010, 1:08 am

centre cut is the old Zoom mode that was introduced for a very short time previously. Created a lot of hoopla that time.
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I See.............But why it is only available in HD channel But in SD Channel, it is LB Expand..............i still wonder why............hehe.

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acc no and your HP  would be good enough. Need to ensure the right people can call u later.
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damn... tested with thumbdrives... doesnt work... it first checks the total disk space before continue doing anything else.... sigh... looks like im gonna get myself the WD hdd lol
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 01:06 AM)
don't waste your time. I can assure only WD my passport AV works. You end up damaging the HDD and/or the box later baru tahu. Been testing both pvr and byond with wd hdd since the last 2 months so trust me.
Er, you work for Astro like TallJustin? So you mean only that particular WD model runs well on Astro PVR?
Have you tested for other brands? blink.gif


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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 01:12 AM)
I See.............But why it is only available in HD channel But in SD Channel, it is LB Expand..............i still wonder why............hehe.
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blargh! My mistake, centre Cut is for hd only where the box cut the left and right part of the screen to show full screen on sdtv instead of letterboxes.

Ur using sdtv?


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Er, you work for Astro like TallJustin? So you mean only that particular WD model runs well on Astro PVR?
Have you tested for other brands? blink.gif
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other models wont work, even if it's the same brand. TallJustin? Umm sapa tu? smile.gif

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 2 2010, 12:41 AM)
hey..
i just double checked and yes
FX HD is a preview channel when it is launched..
How long it remains that way is anybodys guess..
So the numbering and all..just forget about it..

However..i also checked again and Astro have confirmed FOX SD will be available on the same day as the other HD..

Anyone knows how FOX and FX lineup will be like?
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how did u said Astro confirm these things... are u working with em??
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 01:19 AM)
blargh! My mistake, centre Cut is for hd only where the box cut the left and right part of the screen to show full screen on sdtv instead of letterboxes.

Ur using sdtv?
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No..........i am using a Panasonic Plasma HDTV.

Well, there is no different at all when I select these in HD channel.
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 01:22 AM)
No..........i am using a Panasonic Plasma HDTV.

Well, there is no different at all when I select these in HD channel.
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yup that is it. It is designed for hd programs in 16:9 to be croppwd to 4:3 in sdtv while still maintaining the aspect ratio and shown without the black bars.
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WOW...........Only 1 day..........or i think less than 24 hours.......this new thread v5 already reaching Page 9 !!!!

Congratulations !!!!!

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yo.. about the FOX HD thingy... is it coming from reliable source??

how did u said Astro confirm these things... are u working with em??
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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Jun 2 2010, 01:22 AM)
yo.. about the FOX HD thingy... is it coming from reliable source??

how did u said Astro confirm these things... are u working with em??
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Its not FOX HD..the confirmed one was FX HD..
The FOX one is SD..
Someone who attended the roadshow and announcement at Mid Valley today stated FOX SD will also be coming..
He said this at the end of the v4.0 thread..
I went on Astro Facebook and ask astro..
They have confirmed FOX SD will also be available from 16 June 2010 same days as HD channels launch..
They also said FX HD and FOX SD will ot be the same channel..
FX will ot be available on SD and FOX also wont be available on HD
Thats the latest info nod.gif

here's the post
http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=bf6d4...665245&comments

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TallJustin? Umm sapa tu? smile.gif
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TallJustin is not an astro insider..
He works for them
He works on their technical side..
n FYI..he is part of the team that developed Byond and this new PVR..
Thats y he has tried everything..
Everything new to us is old news to him..
Hes the best in the business and help out a lot..
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 01:19 AM)
.... don't waste your time. I can assure only WD my passport AV works. You end up damaging the HDD and/or the box later baru tahu. Been testing both pvr and byond with wd hdd since the last 2 months so trust me.
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other models wont work, even if it's the same brand.....
How did you manage to test it 2 months before it launch?
Could you explain further on why other HDD won't work?
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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 2 2010, 01:29 AM)
Its not FOX HD..the confirmed one was FX HD..
The FOX one is SD..
Someone who attended the roadshow and announcement at Mid Valley today stated FOX SD will also be coming..
He said this at the end of the v4.0 thread..
I went on Astro Facebook and ask astro..
They have confirmed FOX SD will also be available from 16 June 2010 same days as HD channels launch..
They also said FX HD and FOX SD will ot be the same channel..
FX will ot be available on SD and FOX also wont be available on HD
Thats the latest info nod.gif

here's the post
http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=bf6d4...665245&comments
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Wonder FOX SD is aired in 4:3 or 16:9 widescreen? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:14 PM)
I was asked on V.4 "why can"t I use my1 TB powered HDD"

The WD My passport AV HDD has been the only HDD that has passed the requirements of having a low power consumption and several other criteria. They tested lots of HDD and many have a built in reboot function when left on longer then 24 hours, this of course would interrupt a record. Most are just too heavy on sucking the juice during power up.

I think then rather then just opening it up for any old HDD which could cause poor recording or even damage the decoder they have made a white paper and at the moment only the WD My Passport AV 320GB passes it.
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Thanks for the reply, Justin. Appreciate it. I guess RM10 a month for B.yond PVR is for the ability to record using two tuners instead of one on B.yond.

The following paragraphs is my deduction and customer feedback, but I understand if you take it as a personal attack.

I personally think that the reason for the recommendation for the WD AV HDD is to discourage subscribers to buy the HDD and instead get B.yond PVR. The price is practically the same yet by paying for the B.yond PVR you get 200 GB more and the dual-tuner. The reason is to sell more B.yond PVR while the 320GB stock is still sitting in the warehouse. We all know that HDD size and price change a lot within six months but Astro can't possibly keep changing the B.yond PVR to newer drives each month.

Astro tech people I spoke to at Mid Valley said I can't change the internal HDD of B.yond PVR to a larger one either unless the B.yond firmware allows it to. But there's already a WD AV 2TB 3.5" HDD (drive only) out there, designed specifically for PVRs. Granted it costs more than B.yond PVR but I predict future owners would want the ability to upgrade easily.

Tivo allows for this and that's why they left the upgrade options open. They go so far as to include an e-SATA port at the back of their Tivo HD units; B.yond PVR does not have an e-SATA port at the back. And Tivo certainly did not specify that the HDD has to be from WD nor did they say that it must be an AV HDD. As a point of reference, Tivo US records in MPEG-2 bitstreams higher than 8Mbps that the B.yond HD channels on air. For Tivo to not demand that the HDD be of a specific model means they understand what their customers demanded. Even Sony doesn't dictate which SATA drive you can use with the PS3; as long as data can flow uninterrupted, it is a valid drive. Using PlayTV/Torne boxes (connected via USB), users can turn the PS3 as a PVR in Europe, Australia and Japan.

I believe that it is wiser for Astro to leave the choice of external/internal HDDs to the subscribers. They can have a recommended list to cover their asses, but leave the decision to the consumers. If the consumers are not satisfied with the quality of their recording, they can change to a recommended drive.

EDIT: I was told by the Astro tech person at MidValley that FX HD would be in the Family package, AXN HD in the Variety package and that Chinese HD channel in Dynasty. He didn't say when but I guess the 16th is as good as any launch date.


fuad

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How did you manage to test it 2 months before it launch?
Could you explain further on why other HDD won't work?
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other hdd wont work simply because the byond box software has be hardcoded to only accept specific model of the hdd. the wd my passport av has been tested and proven to be very stable in every possible condition. I.e. Tested to be fully compatible. Also the fact that the power requirement is very stable and is able to work with non stop recording for a very long time.
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 01:52 AM)
other hdd wont work simply because the byond box software has be hardcoded to only accept specific model of the hdd. the wd my passport av  has been tested and proven to be very stable in every possible condition. I.e. Tested to be fully compatible. Also the fact that the power requirement is very stable and is able to work with non stop recording for a very long time.
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This doesn't sound "compatible", it sound more like "you can only use this WD model...." shocking.gif

To me, this really doesn't make any sense....
Why Astro is limiting the customer for ext HDD choices? Some more only on a particular HDD size?
320GB?! How many we need to buy??
Even some laptop already equip with >320G already lo ...... cool2.gif

Hmmmm, I think I better hold-on first .....
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mate, I don't take any offence to that, well said and some very valid points.
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Thanks for the reply, Justin. Appreciate it. I guess RM10 a month for B.yond PVR is for the ability to record using two tuners instead of one on B.yond.

The following paragraphs is my deduction and customer feedback, but I understand if you take it as a personal attack.

I personally think that the reason for the recommendation for the WD AV HDD is to discourage subscribers to buy the HDD and instead get B.yond PVR. The price is practically the same yet by paying for the B.yond PVR you get 200 GB more and the dual-tuner. The reason is to sell more B.yond PVR while the 320GB stock is still sitting in the warehouse. We all know that HDD size and price change a lot within six months but Astro can't possibly keep changing the B.yond PVR to newer drives each month.

Astro tech people I spoke to at Mid Valley said I can't change the internal HDD of B.yond PVR to a larger one either unless the B.yond firmware allows it to. But there's already a WD AV 2TB 3.5" HDD (drive only) out there, designed specifically for PVRs. Granted it costs more than B.yond PVR but I predict future owners would want the ability to upgrade easily.

Tivo allows for this and that's why they left the upgrade options open. They go so far as to include an e-SATA port at the back of their Tivo HD units; B.yond PVR does not have an e-SATA port at the back. And Tivo certainly did not specify that the HDD has to be from WD nor did they say that it must be an AV HDD. As a point of reference, Tivo US records in MPEG-2 bitstreams higher than 8Mbps that the B.yond HD channels on air. For Tivo to not demand that the HDD be of a specific model means they understand what their customers demanded. Even Sony doesn't dictate which SATA drive you can use with the PS3; as long as data can flow uninterrupted, it is a valid drive. Using PlayTV/Torne boxes (connected via USB), users can turn the PS3 as a PVR in Europe, Australia and Japan.

I believe that it is wiser for Astro to leave the choice of external/internal HDDs to the subscribers. They can have a recommended list to cover their asses, but leave the decision to the consumers. If the consumers are not satisfied with the quality of their recording, they can change to a recommended drive.

EDIT: I was told by the Astro tech person at MidValley that FX HD would be in the Family package, AXN HD in the Variety package and that Chinese HD channel in Dynasty. He didn't say when but I guess the 16th is as good as any launch date.
fuad
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your deduction is not entirely correct. I can say that much. Ask yourselves this question. Out of 3 mil Astro customers, what's the percentage of customers who would require an upgradable pvr box? The answer? Personally i only see a small fraction. Those as techie as you and me will never really need it simply because we have our PS3, HD media player HTPC and etc to play our bluray, HD Movies and etc.

Ask yourself, what would an average joe use it for? To record indefinitely and fill the hdd within the first week N never delete anything?

Having 500gb is more than enough for today's customer. If one day Astro decided to fit a PVR with a 1 TB hdd it can be done just like the PS3 and xbox 360, those who bought first will get only 500gb and those who bought later will get 1TB. Astro just need to update the software.

Malaysian is not ready to have that options yet especially when it comes to astro. Then again, as astro said it during the launch event, they are going to add more hdd in the list to be compatible with byond in the future. Just let them do the testing and ensure that consumer and the company interest is protected. That is all.

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I should clarify by "valid points" I'm refering to your technical points. I don't agree with the assumption that we would release a new decoder to completely supercede one that is 6months old only. We would loss money by doing that as we wouldnt be able to clear out the stock of the first b.yond which is still in production and will continue to be manufactured



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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 02:02 AM)
This doesn't sound "compatible", it sound more like "you can only use this WD model...." shocking.gif
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which part of the below post don't you understand?

QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 1 2010, 09:14 PM)
... They tested lots of HDD and many have a built in reboot function when left on longer then 24 hours, this of course would interrupt a record. Most are just too heavy on sucking the juice during power up.

I think then rather then just opening it up for any old HDD which could cause poor recording or even damage the decoder they have made a white paper and at the moment only the WD My Passport AV 320GB passes it.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 2 2010, 01:36 AM)
EDIT: I was told by the Astro tech person at MidValley that FX HD would be in the Family package, AXN HD in the Variety package and that Chinese HD channel in Dynasty. He didn't say when but I guess the 16th is as good as any launch date.
fuad
Justin,

is this true for AXN HD? what's the sense AXN HD in Variety while AXN is in basic..
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Justin,

is this true for AXN HD? what's the sense AXN HD in Variety while AXN is in basic..
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QUOTE(l_berd @ Jun 2 2010, 02:31 AM)
Justin,

is this true for AXN HD? what's the sense AXN HD in Variety while AXN is in basic..
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its more or less guaranteed that AXN HD will be on family package..
Astros FB already confirms this..However, its FX HD that will more likely be put in the variety package as it is only stated as a Preview Channel for the time being..
Enjoy it while it lasts unless u already are a variety package subscriber
Yes all 3 HD channels will go on air on 16 June 2010..
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jun 2 2010, 02:13 AM)
damn... tested with thumbdrives... doesnt work... it first checks the total disk space before continue doing anything else.... sigh... looks like im gonna get myself the WD hdd lol
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I guess that's because it reserve 100GB for VOD function..
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Hmm.. one other question, with Byond PVR, can I extend the recording. Like this, if the program ends on 10.00pm based on EPG, but I wanna to extend that to 10.10pm.., can or not? Max can do like that.... so, I wonder if Byond PVR can do it or not. Sorry if I ask the noob question. Already read the PVR FAQ, but it didn't state any about that... notworthy.gif
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look again in the FAQ tongue.gif, there's a start & end recording extension function smile.gif

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 2 2010, 06:45 AM)
Hmm.. one other question, with Byond PVR, can I extend the recording. Like this, if the program ends on 10.00pm based on EPG, but I wanna to extend that to 10.10pm.., can or not? Max can do like that.... so, I wonder if Byond PVR can do it or not. Sorry if I ask the noob question. Already read the PVR FAQ, but it didn't state any about that... notworthy.gif
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which part of the below post don't you understand?
WHAT???!! where's the funding go?
shakehead.gif  ok, that's it... the lot of you better look for new jobs next week.

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you just KNOW some people are going to complain about this  vmad.gif
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astro pvr will be more useful, watch one channel and record the other. if using ext. hdd, which can only record the current channel u watching then no point in paying the rm5, just use the video out to record using PC via encorder. Just my 2 sen worth.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Jun 1 2010, 09:39 PM)
just got my astro byond installed today... when the installer was here, everything was working fine.. signal strength 201..

but when i tried out the byond just now.. the decoder kept hanging.. reboot.. after 5 mins.. hang again..

how come lar?
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anybody know what is the likely cause of my problem?

could it be concealed cabling?

the signal strength and signal quality is decent though... would concealed cabling cause the decoder to hang?
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QUOTE(g400g400 @ Jun 2 2010, 07:50 AM)
astro pvr will be more useful, watch one channel and record the other. if using ext. hdd, which can only record the current channel u watching then no point in paying the rm5, just use the video out to record using PC via encorder. Just my 2 sen worth.. smile.gif
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can't record HD quality that way, you'll get downscaled.
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I just ordered the new Astro PVR Boxed tongue.gif


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oh so fast, how many days for installation smile.gif?
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I just ordered the new Astro PVR Boxed tongue.gif


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wah....suddenly have 10 page oledi.......

i dun mind sharing people here but...must remember, please mind ur words coz this is open thread...everybody can read it.......they are supplier and we are customer....if dun accept their offer, dun take it...its just optional rite.....dun blaim here and there....its better think abt how to fully use if take the option...

this thread now, i think 'they' are also read in our forum...u all forget ar?in version 3, we have made a public poll about wish channel....and i think they have consider it...i think so la...even we here got technical people who work with 'they'.....so, please dun too much fire....fire a bit, normal la...

erm, please 'jaga' our thread coz this thread are among the fastest thread here in LYN(correct me if im wrong)....just a soft remind....
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 2 2010, 08:13 AM)
I just ordered the new Astro PVR Boxed tongue.gif
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Only 500GB - 100hrs of HD recording, not even enough to record all World Cup match. If you use byond with ext HDD, you can add another HDD brows.gif


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true, is there any recorder that can accept HDMI as input?? then can record in HD....??? rclxms.gif
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There is recorder with HDMI input, but you can't record from byond HDMI output, it's protected with HDCP

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your deduction is not entirely correct. I can say that much. Ask yourselves this question. Out of 3 mil Astro customers, what's the percentage of customers who would require an upgradable pvr box? The answer? Personally i only see a small fraction. Those as techie as you and me will never really need it simply because we have our PS3, HD media player HTPC and etc to play our bluray, HD Movies and etc.

Ask yourself, what would an average joe use it for? To record indefinitely and fill the hdd within the first week N never delete anything?

Your argument here cancels each other out. I wouldn't need an upgradeable because I have a ___ device yet I can't transfer any of the recordings from B.yond to my ____ device to free up the HDD space. Essentially, what I delete will be lost forever and I'm supposed to be happy with that.

Regardless of the percentage of customers that would require an upgradeable PVR, it is another feature that is user-friendly. Most people don't know or care that their DVD player can play DIVX content but at least it's there if/when they need it, just like most laptop owners don't burn lots of DVDs either even though their drives are perfectly capable.

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Having 500gb is more than enough for today's customer. If one day Astro decided to fit a PVR with a 1 TB hdd it can be done just like the PS3 and xbox 360, those who bought first will get only 500gb and those who bought later will get 1TB.  Astro just need to update the software.
I said that about my 20GB HDD. Then my 80GB HDD. Then my 1TB HDD. Those who have lots of CDs to rip or Tivo-ed content would always want a bigger drive.

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Malaysian is not ready to have that options yet especially when it comes to astro. Then again, as astro said it during the launch event, they are going to add more hdd in the list to be compatible with byond in the future. Just let them do the testing and ensure that consumer and the company interest is protected. That is all.
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I know they said that. They also said that 1) you can't open up the B.yond PVR and upgrade the HDD yourself and 2) you can buy your own WD AV HDD 320GB and activate the recording function. 1 discourages user participation while 2 encourages it, thereby sending conflicting signals. As I said, they should open it up so that users can add whichever HDD they want.

By the way, you can't remotely program your B.yond PVR or B.yond + HDD using the internet. That means if you forgot to do it at home, you better hope Astro repeats the broadcast. They should have put this feature in at launch.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 2 2010, 09:05 AM)
By the way, you can't remotely program your B.yond PVR or B.yond + HDD using the internet. That means if you forgot to do it at home, you better hope Astro repeats the broadcast. They should have put this feature in at launch.
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I like this feature, hopefully Astro will add it later.
They also can improve EPG to include 'also in this week/month'. That's mean, you will know when the show will repeat.
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astro pvr will be more useful, watch one channel and record the other. if using ext. hdd, which can only record the current channel u watching then no point in paying the rm5, just use the video out to record using PC via encorder. Just my 2 sen worth.. smile.gif
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Hi guys.. thumbup.gif rclxms.gif Some info about FX channel.. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

FX is a television channel in the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland, owned by Fox, launched in 12 January 2004. It was originally branded as FX289 in reference to its Sky Digital EPG number. It was rebranded to FX in May 2005 as the channel began to move places on the Sky EPG.

FX targets a demographic between 25 to 44 year olds. Unlike its sister channel in the US, FX promotes both FX produced and non-FX produced shows. Some of the most popular shows which air on the channel include Family Guy and American Dad. It has a similar format to its American sister channel FX Networks, with a schedule consisting largely of Fox-produced shows, including comedy such as Family Guy and King of the Hill, and dramas such as The Shield, The X Files, NCIS, NYPD Blue and Dexter. Non-Fox-produced shows rerun or receiving their UK premiere on the channel include Babylon 5, Carnivàle, Highlander, JAG, NCIS, Sleeper Cell, E-Ring and Huff, Generation Kill and True Blood

FX HD is a high definition television channel, which launched on Monday 28 April 2008 at 10pm in the UK and Ireland. It initially broadcast a completely separate schedule from the standard definition channel, with only HD contents and without ads.
FX HD was originally due to launch on 21 April, but as stated on the FX Forums, the reason why the date has been pushed back to 28 April 2008 was down to "technical difficulties at the transmission end".
The station broadcasts between 7pm and 2am every day.
On 24 April 2009 FX HD become a simulcast of FX, only broadcasting HD contents when possible.

[edit]Current programming

American Dad!
Babylon 5
Blind Justice (HD)
Breaking Bad (HD)
Brotherhood (HD)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Burn Notice (HD)
Carnivàle
Chappelle's Show
Charlie Jade
Cheers
COPS
Dexter (HD)
E-Ring (HD)
Eastbound & Down (HD)
Family Guy
Forensic Investigators
From the Earth to the Moon
Generation Kill (HD)
Highlander
Huff
JAG (HD)
Kenny vs. Spenny
King of the Hill
Life on Mars USA
MacGyver
Nash Bridges (HD)
NCIS (HD for certain episodes)
Nip/Tuck (HD)
Playmakers
Raven
Reno 911!
To Catch a Predator
The Showbiz Show with David Spade
Third Watch (HD)
True Blood (HD)
Sleeper Cell (HD)
Unhitched
Water Rats
The Wire
10 Items or Less
The X-Files
No Signal!
The Listener

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I have also applied for the PVR as I need the ability to record one channel whilst watching another. There is sometimes a squabble at home as to who watches what. To me RM10 is a small price to pay to resolve this problem although I would rather pay an upfront charge with no further monthly fees. I was told that someone from Astro would be contacting me within 48 hours for confirmation and it would then take 10 working days.

If we are paying the recording monthly charges of RM10, will the hard disk be replaced FOC by Astro should it become problematic after 1 year ( or longer ) hmm.gif . I cant recall having read this in the FAQ. Thanks. smile.gif
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Hi TallJustin & others sifu who already tested:

Some questions really need confirmation here:

1. Is it confirmed that, if we opt for the RM5 monthly ext HDD recording option, can only work with that particular 320G WD model?

2. On the power consumption issue, what about other ext HDD with individual power supply?

3. TJ mentioned some other ext HDD will reboot after long hours, can you share with us what models?

Sorry, this thread is really moving too fast and I really don't have time to read through every pages now. blush.gif

Really hope to confirm the above before making final decision, thanks in advance ! notworthy.gif
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My humble opinion,pls go for the PVR I think its better and less headache ! Why complicate the matter afterall xtra RM5 and we have less work to do icon_rolleyes.gif
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then now oni u consider 'they' keep repeating same film....so, u can record it..
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jun 2 2010, 09:56 AM)
My humble opinion,pls go for the PVR I think its better and less headache ! Why complicate the matter afterall xtra RM5 and we have less work to do icon_rolleyes.gif
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That's what I'm thinking now ......

Just called CS, can swap the current Byond box, RM300 & RM10/mthly, 500GB internal HDD same life-time warranty, even include HDD damages.
It sounds good to me, BUT now the biggest issue is, it will take about 2 weeks from now, some more need to lay another cable .....
I just patched up the hole and painted about 1 month+ ago, now another cabling work from roof and drill again?! blink.gif cry.gif

I really feel a bit of frustration now, thought I can record the WC while I'm away next week sad.gif
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jun 2 2010, 09:56 AM)
My humble opinion,pls go for the PVR I think its better and less headache ! Why complicate the matter afterall xtra RM5 and we have less work to do icon_rolleyes.gif
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The headache will come when HDD is full, you don't know which one to delete tongue.gif
& don't know about its reliability, hopefully not same like AstroMax.

btw what about the ownership of the new PVR. Is it belong to us or Astro (that's mean lifetime warranty). If it is the latter case, why do we need to pay RM300?
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Wonder FOX SD is aired in 4:3 or 16:9 widescreen? hmm.gif
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is anyone having 2 beyond decoder for 2 tv sets? any promotion for 2nd set?
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The headache will come when HDD is full, you don't know which one to delete  tongue.gif
& don't know about its reliability, hopefully not same like AstroMax.

btw what about the ownership of the new PVR. Is it belong to us or Astro (that's mean lifetime warranty). If it is the latter case, why do we need to pay RM300?
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Good point, if cannot backup or copy to another HDD, then 500GB where got enough?!

Yaloh, if life-time warranty, after paying additional RM10 monthly, why we still have to pay the RM300 ?? hmm.gif
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first time I heard harddish are designed to reboot it self, not very useful as a data storage

seagate last year actually manufactured flaws hard drives that can freeze for 30 second during operation and lost all the data, I bet it cost millions to retify

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ITS RM300 for the PVR + extra rm10 monthly
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rm5 extra and u buy the HDD yourself, also hav to fork out abt rm300

but the second option , we can use another HDD if the first is full

but do we hav the time to watch them all since there will be more HD channels coming out

our time will be spent watching the newer ones and where we got time to watch the recorded ones doh.gif
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 2 2010, 09:05 AM)
Your argument here cancels each other out. I wouldn't need an upgradeable because I have a ___ device yet I can't transfer any of the recordings from B.yond to my ____ device to free up the HDD space. Essentially, what I delete will be lost forever and I'm supposed to be happy with that.

Regardless of the percentage of customers that would require an upgradeable PVR, it is another feature that is user-friendly. Most people don't know or care that their DVD player can play DIVX content but at least it's there if/when they need it, just like most laptop owners don't burn lots of DVDs either even though their drives are perfectly capable.

I said that about my 20GB HDD. Then my 80GB HDD. Then my 1TB HDD. Those who have lots of CDs to rip or Tivo-ed content would always want a bigger drive.

I know they said that. They also said that 1) you can't open up the B.yond PVR and upgrade the HDD yourself and 2) you can buy your own WD AV HDD 320GB and activate the recording function. 1 discourages user participation while 2 encourages it, thereby sending conflicting signals. As I said, they should open it up so that users can add whichever HDD they want.

By the way, you can't remotely program your B.yond PVR or B.yond + HDD using the internet. That means if you forgot to do it at home, you better hope Astro repeats the broadcast. They should have put this feature in at launch.
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Hi Fuad,

My points is do we 'techie' really need to keep all these recordings, we value a movie enough that we will buy the bluray or like everyone nowadays, just download unrated bluray rip from the net to be played using our media player. The Astro PVR I see it only as a temporary recording so I can watch later. Things like sports events or news or just several episodes of a series that I miss.

It's not designed to be the media player to keep everything. It would be hell to nagivate thru it. because you can't sort, you can't search and you obviously can't have folders to separate movies according to genre, or series or etc for the time being. Who knows what can Astro do in the future.

As for the External HDD argument, I totally agree with you that they should open it you have valid points however let's give Astro some time to get their act together, no one have done this before. LEt's give them some time yeah..I'm sure in a few weeks/monts they will add more HDD to the "Astro Compatible" list.

To other whi came in late.

1. B.yond with External HDD only works with WD My Passport AV 320GB currently. No other HDD will work with the B.yond Box at this juncture. It's not only about teh power stability but other criteria as well. For the time being, the B.yond Box is configured to only accept My Pass Port AV 320GB. no other brands or models from teh same brand.

2. B.yond PVR on teh other hand will only work with the HDD that it comes with, It's hardcoded already. It does have a USB port however the USB port will not be able to be used to connect another HDD.

Whether the above will change in teh future depends Astro. but I don't think anything will change in the near future except adding more HDD to be compatible with the existing B.yond Box.
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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 2 2010, 10:19 AM)
first time I heard harddish are designed to reboot it self, not very useful as a data storage

seagate last year actually manufactured  flaws hard drives  that can freeze for 30 second during operation and lost all the data, I bet it cost millions to retify
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Me too, that's why I really want to know which brand & model.
I've been using ext HDD, both 3.5" & 2.5" on various brands all these while, but so far I never encounter such scenario.....

QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 2 2010, 10:25 AM)
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but do we hav the time to watch them all since there will be more HD channels coming out
our time will be spent watching the newer ones and where we got time to watch the recorded ones doh.gif
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Because of no time, that's why need to record many things to view later when free mah tongue.gif

I do keep my important recordings over the years, and I think I'll still been keeping & growing .... even those classic VCR or Hi8 video cam which I converted into DVD HDD those days ......
I like to watch & keep certain programs like NG, History, etc ....

You know, getting older, need to watch again just to refresh memory mah tongue.gif
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i think we should wait b4 jumping into the bandwagon
lets astro and some newbie test out the system first
or if u really wan the recording function,

go for the rm5 option cause u use your rm300 to buy the HDD and if the new feature is not good enough, then at least u can use the HDD for some other purpose and the rm5 is nothing , u can afford to burn it to astro tongue.gif


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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 10:37 AM)
Me too, that's why I really want to know which brand & model.
I've been using ext HDD, both 3.5" & 2.5" on various brands all these while, but so far I never encounter such scenario.....
Because of no time, that's why need to record many things to view later when free mah  tongue.gif

I do keep my important recordings over the years, and I think I'll still been keeping & growing .... even those classic VCR or Hi8 video cam which I converted into DVD HDD those days ......
I like to watch & keep certain programs like NG, History, etc ....

You know, getting older, need to watch again just to refresh memory mah  tongue.gif
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i tot we only keep those ........... brows.gif brows.gif

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I am qualified for free pvr and no monthly fee for one year, may get it in the near future brows.gif , but can I pay RM80 and keep the max?

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 2 2010, 10:14 AM)
The headache will come when HDD is full, you don't know which one to delete  tongue.gif
& don't know about its reliability, hopefully not same like AstroMax.

btw what about the ownership of the new PVR. Is it belong to us or Astro (that's mean lifetime warranty). If it is the latter case, why do we need to pay RM300?
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Yes Max was a blow !! RM900 and infact could not perform ! this one RM300 and life warranty life warranty here its like leased for RM300 later any problems u may get another one hmm.gif thats what I think
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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 10:18 AM)
Good point, if cannot backup or copy to another HDD, then 500GB where got enough?!

Yaloh, if life-time warranty, after paying additional RM10 monthly, why we still have to pay the RM300 ?? hmm.gif
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The RM300 is installation and ODU equipment fee. There will be 2 cables coming down from the ODU and the ODU will be replaced with the B.yond ODU and the LNB will be replaced with either Dual or Quad LNB depending on how many decoders you have in your house. That is where the RM300 goes to.

The PVR box belongs to Astro so RM300 is not us paying to own it.

500GB translates to 100 HD hours or 290 SD hours. No enough?
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Friends of mine in HK use TBs tray to keep those ...... HD somemore wink.gif
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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 2 2010, 10:45 AM)
I am qualified for free pvr and no monthly fee for one year, may get it in the near future brows.gif , but can I pay RM80 and keep the max?
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The offer is only if Max customer return the Max box. If you keep you need to pay RM400 installation Fee and not 1 year free.
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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 10:50 AM)
Friends of mine in HK use TBs tray to keep those ...... HD somemore wink.gif
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wat is TBs trays?

btw, rm300 is for new dual wiring and dual LNB and its for the rm10 mthy package rite?

for the rm5 extra mthly its juz a call to astro to activate the service rite and we buy our HDD to do the recording

then if wat i said is rite, the rm10 extra mthly is more worthly thumbup.gif
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500GB translates to 100 HD hours or 290 SD hours. No enough?
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Yes, not enough. brows.gif I want to record all WC match & other stuff as well. Not even reach semifinal match, it will be full laugh.gif
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If I upgrade from max, how can I transfer old recordings to PVR's harddish?

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heh... why la so many people here get so excited about recording the shows... (download je) biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 10:49 AM)
The RM300 is installation and ODU equipment fee. There will be 2 cables coming down from the ODU and the ODU will be replaced with the B.yond ODU and the LNB will be replaced with either Dual or Quad LNB depending on how many decoders you have in your house. That is where the RM300 goes to.

The PVR box belongs to Astro so RM300 is not us paying to own it.

500GB translates to 100 HD hours or 290 SD hours. No enough?
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yeah, but most of us already have the new byond dish....so the 300 bucks is just for changing a new lnb and and additional 20meters of cable?
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yeah, but most of us already have the new byond dish....so the 300 bucks is just for changing a new lnb and and additional 20meters of cable?
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I tried to plug in my Seagate Freeagent Go 320GB 2.5" HDD. The system will detect the drive and then come out with a warning:

Validation Failed: This USB device cannot be used.

same warning came out when i plugged my HDD into the front USB port, so i assume you dont have to use the back USB for the PVR. but of course, if you plug into the back, it looks a lot more neater.

So its confirmation. unless we use the exact drive ASTRO recommends, the system will not accept it. but the question is.. can we use the exact WD My passport AV model but 500GB, 640GB or even 1TB?

Hehehe... apart from sugar shortage, there will be a WD My passport AV 320GB in the market very very soon.

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If I upgrade from max, how can I transfer old recordings to PVR's harddish?
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QUOTE(edmundq @ Jun 2 2010, 11:23 AM)
I tried to plug in my Seagate Freeagent Go 320GB 2.5" HDD. The system will detect the drive and then come out with a warning:

Validation Failed: This USB device cannot be used.

So its confirmation. unless we use the exact drive ASTRO recommends, the system will not accept it. but the question is.. can we use the exact WD My passport AV model but 500GB, 640GB or even 1TB?

Hehehe... apart from sugar shortage, there will be a WD My passport AV 320GB in the market very very soon.
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Confirm kenot use other size of the same model like 500GB or 1TB since verificcation is based on teh model number and model number changes acccording to the size as well.
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heh... why la so many people here get so excited about recording the shows... (download je) biggrin.gif
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Ya, wonder why...Some more, the shows will repeat few times a day.
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wah....suddenly have 10 page oledi.......

i dun mind sharing people here but...must remember, please mind ur words coz this is open thread...everybody can read it.......they are supplier and we are customer....if dun accept their offer, dun take it...its just optional rite.....dun blaim here and there....its better think abt how to fully use if take the option...

this thread now, i think 'they' are also read in our forum...u all forget ar?in version 3, we have made a public poll about wish channel....and i think they have consider it...i think so la...even we here got technical people who work with 'they'.....so, please dun too much fire....fire a bit, normal la...

erm, please 'jaga' our thread coz this thread are among the fastest thread here in LYN(correct me if im wrong)....just a soft remind....
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of course they read our comments here in the forums and on facebook.

of course they pay others to read it and feedback to them.


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If I upgrade from max, how can I transfer old recordings to PVR's harddish?
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can we use the exact WD My passport AV model but 500GB, 640GB or even 1TB?

Hehehe... apart from sugar shortage, there will be a WD My passport AV 320GB in the market very very soon.
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where is the link to this 500GB my Passport AV please
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can we hack the higher capacity hard disk model number and force byond to recognise it

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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 10:49 AM)
.... 500GB translates to 100 HD hours or 290 SD hours. No enough?
Perhaps enough for 1 year la....
But for me, I don't think so .... since I like to record & KEEP, somemore mostly HD channels.....

QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 2 2010, 10:59 AM)
wat is TBs trays?..
It is something like this:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/ask_doctor/terabyte_backup
can put multiple terabytes HDD onto it ....some can even support 8 or 10 arrays .....
I also saw an external USB3 twin 3.5" hot-plug device, no need computer, can just slot-in one already recorded HDD in front, then slot-in another empty HDD at the back, press a button and it just copy, the speed is so much faster than using PC shocking.gif

That's how my friends share among themselves over there .....

Also, with broadband so cheap & HD channels so many over there,
http://www.netvigator.com/netvigator2003/f...anchorLocation=
no wonder there are so many BT sites in HongKong ...
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 2 2010, 11:29 AM)
No can do...kenot transfer...have to bear with it.....
This is really not positive news for those Max users who intend to upgrade .....


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can we hack the higher capacity hard disk model number and force byond to recognise it
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HACK ?! shocking.gif

Hmmmm, R&D like how they do it for Xbox360 20G-->120G ?! cool2.gif

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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 12:01 PM)
Perhaps enough for 1 year la....
But for me, I don't think so .... since I like to record & KEEP, somemore mostly HD channels.....
It is something like this:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/ask_doctor/terabyte_backup
can put multiple terabytes HDD onto it ....some can even support 8 or 10 arrays .....
I also saw an external USB3 twin 3.5" hot-plug device, no need computer, can just slot-in one already recorded HDD in front, then slot-in another empty HDD at the back, press a button and it just copy, the speed is so much faster than using PC  shocking.gif

That's how my friends share among themselves over there .....

Also, with broadband so cheap & HD channels so many over there,
http://www.netvigator.com/netvigator2003/f...anchorLocation=
no wonder there are so many BT sites in HongKong ...
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This is really not positive news for those Max users who intend to upgrade .....


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HACK ?!  shocking.gif

Hmmmm, R&D like how they do it for Xbox360 20G-->120G ?!  cool2.gif
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WD My Passport AV model number is WDBABS3200ABK-NESN brows.gif

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 2 2010, 04:12 AM)
Yes, not enough.  brows.gif I want to record all WC match & other stuff as well. Not even reach semifinal match, it will be full  laugh.gif
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there are two USB ports - can you hook up two hard drives at a time?

is there a USB port on the dual-tuner PVR unit, and (... you know what's coming next)
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there are two USB ports - can you hook up two hard drives at a time?

is there a USB port on the dual-tuner PVR unit, and (... you know what's coming next)
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No. You can purchase multiple Western Digital My Passport AV 320GB External Hard Disk Drive and
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Note that you cannot connect two Western Digital’s My Passport AV 320GB External Hard Disk Drive
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The correct USB connection for Western Digital’s My Passport AV 320GB External Hard Disk Drive is
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WD My Passport AV 320GB could be using this drive
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For those that already swapped their MAX to B.yond...

12. I have downgraded my PVR recording service and my PVR box has been since swapped to an Astro B.yond box. Can I upgrade back to a PVR?

Yes you can. However, you will have to pay for box swap installation and retrieval charges at prevailing rates at that time.

For those who doesn't want the B.yond PVR anymore...


10. Can I discontinue my Astro B.yond PVR recording function?

Yes, a one time switching fee of RM10 will apply and Astro will arrange for an installer to swap your Astro B.yond PVR box for an Astro B.yond box.

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Last time Astro shit said the next firmware upgrade can enable the recording through ext usb hardisk . Now they are selling the firmware for RM 300 . It's identical and looks exactly the same only the firmware inside it the enable the recording
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Fox TV asia would be launch on 16 june too?????? rclxm9.gif
woohoo......... I very excited, and I wait very very long from fox TV asia launched on January ago.
Good Job, ASTRO!!!!!!!!! rclxms.gif
But what channel no. is it???
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firmware update for byond box is free, but you will have to pay RM5/month for recording function, and buy WD external USB harddrive, specifically WD My Passport AV 320GB

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Jun 2 2010, 01:15 PM)
Last time Astro shit said the next firmware upgrade can enable the recording through ext usb hardisk . Now they are selling the firmware for RM 300 . It's identical and looks exactly the same only the firmware inside it the enable the recording
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MX your post does not make any sense. Astro is not selling the HDD. WD is and the firmware is made available for free. but teh PVR service is chargeble for RM5 each month.

Go and bug WD to lower the price lah...why Astro?
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is FOX HD available in normal package?


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is FOX HD available in normal package?
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Dont confuse NOT Fox but FX HD ( I myself confused ) notworthy.gif and its preview free for all I think! They are not the same pls note Fox is Fox Fx is Fx drool.gif

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jun 2 2010, 02:04 PM)
Dont confuse NOT Fox but FX HD ( I myself confused )  notworthy.gif and its preview free for all I think! They are not the same pls note Fox is Fox Fx is Fx  drool.gif
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... Fox is Fox Fx is Fx  drool.gif
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p.s neb, thanks biggrin.gif

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where is the link to this 500GB my Passport AV please
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hmm.. only have 320GB. if next time want to upgrade, hope astro will expand compatible HDD database

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cry.gif Those who gave up the Max for Beyond cannot get a waivwer must pay RM300. Astss cheated us, its very unfair !RM900 box taken back for RM80!! cry.gif
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R u sure bout this? Bcos im planning to swap my Max for the PVR
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R u sure bout this? Bcos im planning to swap my Max for the PVR
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Dont confuse NOT Fox but FX HD ( I myself confused )  notworthy.gif and its preview free for all I think! They are not the same pls note Fox is Fox Fx is Fx  drool.gif
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Yes, both will be available on 16th June, but
FX HD
Fox SD

Fox is better, but only in SD. Hopefully it will also available for free preview
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Yes, both will be available on 16th June, but
FX HD
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Fox is better, but only in SD. Hopefully it will also available for free preview
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Thanx now I see clearly !!!!!!!!!!!!!! notworthy.gif
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existing max user pay nichts to upgrade to PVR, free 1 year monthly fee of RM10 for recording function
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Meaning there is no additional fee rite? Bcos i read somewhere in this thread that mentioned something like this "to use a single cable with dual-tuner PVR, you must use a device called Stacker-De-stacker (SDS), apparently it will cost your RM300"

I'm not going to swap my Max if they r goin to charge me additional RM 300...
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QUOTE(zdnlee7 @ Jun 2 2010, 02:59 PM)
Meaning there is no additional fee rite? Bcos i read somewhere in this thread that mentioned something like this "to use a single cable with dual-tuner PVR, you must use a device called Stacker-De-stacker (SDS), apparently it will cost your RM300"

I'm not going to swap my Max if they r goin to charge me additional RM 300...
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dat SDS device is only use if u want to use single cable from the dish to the decoder... else need to use 2 cables from dish to decoder for byond pvr...
correct me if im wrong sifu... smile.gif
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dat SDS device is only use if u want to use single cable from the dish to the decoder... else need to use 2 cables from dish to decoder for byond pvr...
correct me if im wrong sifu... smile.gif
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y cannot complain?
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then u just diamdiam
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hi bro....

thanks for ur 'advice'.....is it wrong if i just remind forummers using the good word?think twice b4 u post bro...and if u are really want to complaint, go straight and call cs then complain....we have the wright path where to complain.....not just fire..fire...fire then balim..huh! we can complaint but in softer way la....like peoples always said, if u dun like their services, dun use them.....

Please dun make this thread as ur frustration path illegelally to tell assstro....we are here to discuss and give information to other people who are interested in byond......are u using byond?huh!!!i really dun like the way u warning people like this...
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jun 2 2010, 03:01 PM)
dat SDS device is only use if u want to use single cable from the dish to the decoder... else need to use 2 cables from dish to decoder for byond pvr...
correct me if im wrong sifu... smile.gif
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Exactamundo thumbup.gif , no needs to ask sifu, just read the PVR-Faq

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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jun 2 2010, 03:01 PM)
dat SDS device is only use if u want to use single cable from the dish to the decoder... else need to use 2 cables from dish to decoder for byond pvr...
correct me if im wrong sifu... smile.gif
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Don't think installer know about this. They must insist to install 2 cables because it was directed to do so by Astro. Furthermore, it's hard to find it here. Also you need power supply near the stacker.
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 2 2010, 02:48 PM)
Yes, both will be available on 16th June, but
FX HD
Fox SD

Fox is better, but only in SD. Hopefully it will also available for free preview
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FX HD will be a preview channel when it is launched meaning every Byond subscribers will get it at first
How long the preview channel status lasts is anybodys guess
It will probably end up in the Variety package

FOX SD will probably also be in the Variety package..

But..the only one people who have given info about FOX SD coming is the person who went to Mid Valley yesterday and posted the news at the end of the V4.0 thread..
However, I have it confirmed through Astro's Facebook that FOX SD will be lauched on the same date

We need more info on the programme lineups of both channels..
As far as I can see, there might be programmes on FOX that is already available on AXN and AXN HD..eg: NCIS..

Anyone can clarify this..
Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

*UPDATE: FOX TV ASIA SD WILL BE IN VARIETY PACKAGE*

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 2 2010, 03:51 PM)
FX HD will be a preview channel when it is launched meaning every Byond subscribers will get it at first
How long the preview channel status lasts is anybodys guess
It will probably end up in the Variety package

FOX SD will probably also be in the Variety package..

But..the only one people who have given info about FOX SD coming is the person who went to Mid Valley yesterday and posted the news at the end of the V4.0 thread..
However, I have it confirmed through Astro's Facebook that FOX SD will be lauched on the same date

We need more info on the programme lineups of both channels..
As far as I can see, there might be programmes on FOX that is already available on AXN and AXN HD..eg: NCIS..

Anyone can clarify this..
Thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

*UPDATE: FOX TV ASIA SD WILL BE IN VARIETY PACKAGE*
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maybe we can refer to this website... since we are in asia and the program is schedule for HKT/SGT time...

http://www.fxtvasia.com/
http://www.foxtvasia.com/
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Is fox SD going to be in widescreen?
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Is fox SD going to be in widescreen?
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The SD channels of FOX, FX, FOXCRIME & STAR WORLD are all in 4:3.
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WESTERN DIGITAL MY PASSPORT AV PORTABLE MEDIA DRIVE 320GB -Compatible with astro byond

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y cannot complain?
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Then why dont you add Boycott ASTRO becos of monopoly in your signature and not just Unifi?

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300 for the hard disk... rather change decoder =.= and pay 5 bux more
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Jun 2 2010, 04:12 PM)
maybe we can refer to this website... since we are in asia and the program is schedule for HKT/SGT time...

http://www.fxtvasia.com/
http://www.foxtvasia.com/
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the schedule given from the links for FOX TV ASIA is for the Philippines..
The list of programmes includes

BONES
FAMILY GUY
LIE TO ME
MODERN FAMILY
NCIS - NEW
SMALLVILLE
THE SIMPSON
WHITE COLLAR

not much..dont tell me only this are the programmes available..? rclxub.gif
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Tall Justin,
Can I use any WD My Passport AV after byond PVR function enable?
I mean, if my 1st HDD is full, I just swap with new HDD & use it straight away?
Another thing is HDD need to format for initial use?
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can, but be aware that every time you insert the AV HDD, you will get a prompt to reformat the HDD.

QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 2 2010, 09:47 AM)
Hi TallJustin & others sifu who already tested:

Some questions really need confirmation here:

1. Is it confirmed that, if we opt for the RM5 monthly ext HDD recording option, can only work with that particular 320G WD model?

2. On the power consumption issue, what about other ext HDD with individual power supply?

3. TJ mentioned some other ext HDD will reboot after long hours, can you share with us what models?

Sorry, this thread is really moving too fast and I really don't have time to read through every pages now. blush.gif

Really hope to confirm the above before making final decision, thanks in advance !  notworthy.gif
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1. At the moment, yes

QUOTE(neb @ Jun 2 2010, 10:45 AM)
I am qualified for free pvr and no monthly fee for one year, may get it in the near future brows.gif , but can I pay RM80 and keep the max?
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free PVR and recording for 1st year is for active MAX users only.


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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jun 1 2010, 07:35 PM)
wll guys, as a normal astro subscriber and considering my options to upgrade to b.yond pvr, is that means I need to pay RM20/month on top of my current subscription and additional RM10/month for recording purposes?

So my subscription which is Rm119.95 will be RM119.95 + RM20 + RM10 = RM150??

Correct me if im wrong but I feel paying monthly for recording is ridiculous.
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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 2 2010, 05:05 PM)
the schedule given from the links for FOX TV ASIA is for the Philippines..
The list of programmes includes

BONES
FAMILY GUY
LIE TO ME
MODERN FAMILY
NCIS - NEW
SMALLVILLE
THE SIMPSON
WHITE COLLAR

not much..dont tell me only this are the programmes available..? rclxub.gif
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Yup, if it is just those programs listed, then will have hell lots of repeats rclxub.gif
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The SD channels of FOX, FX, FOXCRIME & STAR WORLD are all in 4:3.
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hmm...apparently it's available in widescreen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STAR_World (right hand column)
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hmm...apparently it's available in widescreen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STAR_World (right hand column)
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The feed here in SIN for STAR WORLD is in 4:3....was in HK recently and the hotels had the same channel in 4:3 too. Could be a typo on Wiki. rclxub.gif
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none of astro SD channels are in wide screen format even they are available, don't know astro's reasoning, may be to appease old customers with ancient decoders
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The feed here in SIN for STAR WORLD is in 4:3....was in HK recently and the hotels had the same channel in 4:3 too.  Could be a typo on  Wiki.  rclxub.gif
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Could be. I find it strange because almost all the programmes shown must have been filmed in 16:9 anyways. Why not just broadcast them like that.
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For information, WD My Passport AV 320GB is the only drive that compatible with Sony Video Recoder. Maybe this HDD is special.
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For information, WD My Passport AV 320GB is the only drive that compatible with Sony Video Recoder. Maybe this HDD is special.
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I think the bare disk is this, got silk-stream technology, support up to 5 simultaneous HD stream thumbup.gif
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For information, WD My Passport AV 320GB is the only drive that compatible with Sony Video Recoder. Maybe this HDD is special.
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Maybe the power usage specifications comply with Astro requirements and whitepaper, huh

Maybe even the product ID has been hardcoded into the Byond decoder software...

Imagine that

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i tried my old WD passport 160gb, it said device not compatible below recommended size...something like that..
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Help help Help.... it would seem tht im the only one so far having this problem! After upgrading to Firmware 2.0s, my HD channels have sound going thru my AVR but when i switch to SD channels... NO SOUND! Previously, ie. yesterday, it was all fine!!! Arghhh!
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after upgrade to v2.0 software for byond decorder, now cannot check satellite signal level, when go to that page, it will show signal lock.....arggggg... software bug?? anyone got his problem?
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what brand and model AVR you are using, may be just the simple setting in AVR

or power cycle your byond box (ie. off - wait 10 seconds - on), could fix the problem

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Im curious as how they gonna show californication
that show has sex reference, nude scene etc every few minutes
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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 2 2010, 08:14 PM)
@sioe
what brand and model AVR you are using, may be just the simple setting in AVR

or power cycle your byond box (ie. off - wait 10 seconds - on), could fix the problem
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Using Marantz AVR... problem is, before the firmware upgrade, yesterday was fine n dandy! now only cannot. Power cycle din work! cry.gif
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My external hard drive is WD 3200BEV but it's not compatible with Byond *sigh*
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QUOTE(g400g400 @ Jun 2 2010, 08:14 PM)
after upgrade to v2.0 software for byond decorder, now cannot check satellite signal level, when go to that page, it will show signal lock.....arggggg... software bug?? anyone got his problem?
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did you select "1LNB" , "OK" , "18 MEASAT 3A(VH)" , "OK" ?

My box can show satellite signal, no problems
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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Jun 2 2010, 08:17 PM)
Im curious as how they gonna show californication
that show has sex reference, nude scene etc every few minutes
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Could be. I find it strange because almost all the programmes shown must have been filmed in 16:9 anyways. Why not just broadcast them like that.
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Im curious as how they gonna show californication
that show has sex reference, nude scene etc every few minutes
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Scrubs showing at star world also has sex reference. A lot of scene has been sensored.
I think astro will apply a same way sensorship with californication. sweat.gif


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Help help Help.... it would seem tht im the only one so far having this problem! After upgrading to Firmware 2.0s, my HD channels have sound going thru my AVR but when i switch to SD channels... NO SOUND! Previously, ie. yesterday, it was all fine!!! Arghhh!
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Try to restart ur decoder. Turn off a power.


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can, but be aware that every time you insert the AV HDD, you will get a prompt to reformat the HDD.
Is it true? Can we cancel to reformat and still can used it without affect existing data? hmm.gif

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the only channels in whole of Asia broadcasting in SD 16:9 are BBC World and DW-TV Asia.  Broadcasters fault.  wink.gif
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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Jun 2 2010, 08:17 PM)
Im curious as how they gonna show californication
that show has sex reference, nude scene etc every few minutes
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i live in JB so I get to watch sinngapore free to air terrestial channel 5
they showed yesterday at 12 midnight..
got la the kissing2 and reference ans sexy..
No nude though
N if there was any i think they already edited it
I guess ASTRO would do the same la..

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What I would give to watch BBC World News in widescreen...  lust.gif

Hope tall justin reads this biggrin.gif
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I'm reading,

how much would you give?
I'll tell our marketing people so they can set a price for it. brows.gif
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did you select "1LNB" , "OK" , "18 MEASAT 3A(VH)" , "OK" ?

My box can show satellite signal, no problems
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my set originally set at ' user defined 1 ' not the 18Measat 3A(VH) do i need to change? when i select 18 it warn me of losing signal.......can chnage or not, fyi, my set no problem at all can view all hd channel...
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I'm reading,

how much would you give?
I'll tell our marketing people so they can set a price for it. brows.gif
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Haha. My byond subscription should cover it, you cheeky bugger tongue.gif

Wonder if you could answer this. When you receive the BBC world news feed, is it in widescreen, or has it already been cropped? If you recieve it in 4:3 I can understand why you can't broadcast it in 16:9 but if you recieve it in its native format, why not just rebroadcast it as that?

Surely you could design STB firmware that will crop the image if it is connected to an SDTV, or output it in widescreen if connected to a widescreen TV. On all the decoders I've used in the past, there has always been an option to select in the menu for widescreen TVs (although it didn't seem to make any difference to any channels).

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Hey Guys, not sure whether you all realise or not. The FAQ of Astro B.Yond changed in the website. Version 1 with more details such as upgrade options and prices and in version 2 they have removed some of the details. Refer to attachments for more information.


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QUOTE(g400g400 @ Jun 2 2010, 10:16 PM)
my set originally set at ' user defined 1 ' not the 18Measat 3A(VH) do i need to change? when i select 18 it warn me of losing signal.......can chnage or not, fyi, my set no problem at all can view all hd channel...
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for user defined 1, you need to enter valid transponder frequency, such as 11682

for 18Measat 3A(VH), the right frequency is already pre-defined for you, so just select it and it will show HD channels transponder signal strength

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Hey Guys, not sure whether you all realise or not. The FAQ of Astro B.Yond changed in the website. Version 1 with more details such as upgrade options and prices and in version 2 they have removed some of the details. Refer to attachments for more information.
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wow.. it's from 18 pages of the version I download yesterday to only 8 pages on the new version?
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wow.. it's from 18 pages of the version I download yesterday to only 8 pages on the new version?
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I noticed that old faq beta version has quite a bit of duplication, such as same questions same answers appeared in different places in the document

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I noticed that old faq beta version has quite a bit of duplication, such as same questions same answers appeared in different places in the document
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The comparison table between the Byond PVR and Byond was missing..
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The comparison table between the Byond PVR and Byond was missing..
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i might have missed it, the new FAQ does not say that you need to subscribe to that package to watch previous recordings. the old FAQ states that if you are not subscribed to the package, you cannot watch old recordings.


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QUOTE(neb @ Jun 2 2010, 10:33 PM)
for user defined 1, you need to enter valid transponder frequency, such as 11682

for 18Measat 3A(VH), the right frequency is already pre-defined for you, so just select it and it will show HD channels transponder signal strength
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ok,i am using 18measat now, can see the signal, but why is it defasultd to User defined 1?? my other 2 byond also same User Defined 1..... strange, last time before the software upgrade, user defined 1 also can see the signal...strange..
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so, should I upgrade the new astro byond PVR or just use the 'normal' byond one?? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

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you have an existing byond PVR?
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can you all help me??? this astro byond have cinematic surround system right?? but, I don't know how to plug it into my pioneer home system... really mad me on this problem... mad.gif mad.gif plez help... thanks


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i just got a reply from Astro on their Facebook page

FOX TV ASIA WILL BE ON CHANNEL 710 and WILL GO STRAIGHT INTO THE VARIETY PACKAGE..
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Haha. My byond subscription should cover it, you cheeky bugger  tongue.gif

Wonder if you could answer this. When you receive the BBC world news feed, is it in widescreen, or has it already been cropped? If you recieve it in 4:3 I can understand why you can't broadcast it in 16:9 but if you recieve it in its native format, why not just rebroadcast it as that?

Surely you could design STB firmware that will crop the image if it is connected to an SDTV, or output it in widescreen if connected to a widescreen TV. On all the decoders I've used in the past, there has always been an option to select in the menu for widescreen TVs (although it didn't seem to make any difference to any channels).

Just a thought smile.gif
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 2 2010, 11:05 PM)
can you all help me??? this astro byond have cinematic surround system right?? but, I don't know how to plug it into my pioneer home system... really mad me on this problem...  mad.gif  mad.gif  plez help... thanks
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1- Just plug HDMI cable from decoder to your AVR
2- Change Audio settings at decoder to 5.1 Dolby Digital
3- Done.

Your will experince best 5.1 audio only on NGC HD. Good luck..
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Called Astro to subscribe to NORMAL Byond not Byond PVR, the Astro guy said need to pay RM300 to install.. betulkah?
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Called Astro to subscribe to NORMAL Byond not Byond PVR, the Astro guy said need to pay RM300 to install.. betulkah?
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RM300 is only for new Byond PVR decoder and not for Byond EHDD PVR. CS make a joke I think. sweat.gif
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My points is do we 'techie' really need to keep all these recordings, we value a movie enough that we will buy the bluray or like everyone nowadays, just download unrated bluray rip from the net to be played using our media player. The Astro PVR I see it only as a temporary recording so I can watch later. Things like sports events or news or just several episodes of a series that I miss.
The things that I'd be interested in recording are not the same as yours. If I like a movie, I'd buy the BD or DVD from Amazon or Speedy. I don't download movies.

What I can't download are the full recording of last year's Grammy Awards, Oscars or Tony Awards. I can't download the NGC HD/History HD specials. Most importantly once the local HD channel comes in, you can't re-download local HD content once you delete it.

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It's not designed to be the media player to keep everything. It would be hell to nagivate thru it. because you can't sort, you can't search and you obviously can't have folders to separate movies according to genre, or series or etc for the time being. Who knows what can Astro do in the future.
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I'm not asking that B.yond be a media player even though it really isn't hard considering the SOC solution in the box. But I would prefer that the HDD criteria be left open. Things like Wifi (which would enable B.yond programming via the internet using your laptop or PDA) should not be an afterthought. When Proton first launched Saga, they didn't say, "We know developed countries have make seat belts and car stereos standard but we'll put them in our cars three years from now."

I also would like for Astro to allow the off-loading of content to the PC via wifi or LAN. Tivo has done it for years and Hollywood still hadn't collapse.

QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 2 2010, 11:05 PM)
can you all help me??? this astro byond have cinematic surround system right?? but, I don't know how to plug it into my pioneer home system... really mad me on this problem...  mad.gif  mad.gif  plez help... thanks
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Please state your "pioneer home system" model number so that we can help you. Provide PDF links to the manual would be helpful.

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no, i mean, should i upgrade my byond decoder to byond pvr?
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That would be the best course of action, if you want recording capability. It would require wiring in two cables and installing a new LNB receiver.

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Your will experince best 5.1 audio only on NGC HD. Good luck..
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I disagree. The Pacific as well as other HD movies in DD 5.1 sounded good on HBO HD.

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Called Astro to subscribe to NORMAL Byond not Byond PVR, the Astro guy said need to pay RM300 to install.. betulkah?
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Things may have changed but last we heard, from regular Astro to B.yond it's free. If you're from B.yond to B.yond PVR, it's RM300. If you're from regular to B.yond PVR, it's RM400.


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RM300 is only for new Byond PVR decoder and not for Byond EHDD PVR. CS make a joke I think.  sweat.gif
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that CS say its da same PVR or normal, need to pay RM300 jugak. then the CS say the PVR need to add up RM10 rclxub.gif
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i tried my old WD passport 160gb, it said device not compatible below recommended size...something like that..
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Below recommended size, that's why cannot work?

Well, my WD HDD is 750Gb, so, should be working, right? tongue.gif

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Below recommended size, that's why cannot work?

Well, my WD HDD is 750Gb, so, should be working, right?  tongue.gif
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SD channel on B.yond also use MPEG4, right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 2 2010, 11:42 PM)
Below recommended size, that's why cannot work?

Well, my WD HDD is 750Gb, so, should be working, right?  tongue.gif
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WD My Passport AV 320GB is designed for Video use,
so i think the problem is not the storage,
but the supported 'format' or technology on the HDD,
same like normal pendrive cannot use U3 software too.

jz my 2 cents. smile.gif
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i just bought aqous lcd with 100/120 hz resolution. through hdmi connection, it indicates I'm getting my byond at 1080i with 50hz. does that mean im getting a lower resolution in term of hz. might as well for me to get a 50/60 hz TV only.
Anyone can enlighten.. thank you in advance
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just subscribe mine at Midvalley roadshow by Astro...switch from existing Beyond to PVR...hope can install before W Cup...
for me better go PVR 500GB coz much more advantage than existin beyond flex.gif ...n fakap another RM10 permonth.... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(luxasia @ Jun 3 2010, 12:27 AM)
i just bought aqous lcd with 100/120 hz resolution. through hdmi connection, it indicates I'm getting my byond at 1080i with 50hz. does that mean im getting a lower resolution in term of hz. might as well for me to get a 50/60 hz TV only.
Anyone can enlighten.. thank you in advance
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astro is transmitting at 1080i and in pal format(50hz). Even if you have a 1000hz tv, you will still receive astro HD in 50hz only because PAL is the broadcast standard here and NTSC(60hz) is used in North America.
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The new FAQ is a little different. Looks like Astro has taken out some of the more obscure or should I say the less than frequently asked questions. I think it is the right move since they certainly do not want to confuse the general public.

What I'n not happy though why did they delay the launch of the 3 new HD channels?? It was supposed to be together with the availability of the PVR...! I wan't my CSI in HD!


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CSI in HD.. Yeah can't wait that
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Astro new website looks cool..but so complicated..
Now I just want to mix and match my packages and so hard to do so..
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no I think he want it rite from 1st june... rite after the update....
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TVB Content On StarHub Gets Greater And Fresher‬‪

TVB’s TV content comes to Singapore faster

First in Singapore to offer TVB content in HD

Addition of new weekend primetime belt on VV Drama

Introducing TVB Video-On-Demand content on StarHub TV on Mobile

Singapore, 27 May 2010 – Local fans of TVB content will soon have cause for joy! From June 2010, StarHub will offer TVB content sooner so that its customers can enjoy fresh TVB content as early as one month after their Hong King debuts. An additional primetime belt will also be introduced during the weekend so that viewers can enjoy first-run TVB dramas every day of the week. In addition, StarHub will launch on-demand TVB content on TV on Mobile to cater to viewers on the move.‪

“As the leading pay TV operator in Singapore and the preferred partner of TVB, StarHub is delighted to deliver TVB’s premium content in larger quantities and a more timely fashion. There is a large following for TVB content in Singapore and StarHub wants to be the one-stop provider for these fans and give them the ultimate TVB entertainment experience,” enthused Mr Tan Tong Hai, StarHub’s COO.

“We are delighted to partner StarHub, who has contributed significantly to building a strong TVB presence in Singapore via its multi-platforms for more than 18 years. We grow, not only in market shares, but also the trust and confidence in each other. Moving into our 19th year of partnership, I believe that TVB and StarHub will keep strengthening our co-operation, expanding our business opportunities and striving for more remarkable accomplishments,” said Mr Sherman Lee, Controller of Telecast Licensing Division, TVBI Company Limited.‪

Shortened telecast window for TVB dramas and first to offer TVB content in HD
From 1 June, the telecast window for TVB dramas on StarHub TV’s Video-On-Demand (VOD) will be brought forward so that viewers can enjoy TVB dramas as early as one month from their debuts in Hong Kong and local video rental releases! TVB dramas on StarHub TV’s VOD are available in dual sound – both in its original Cantonese language and Mandarin, and TVB drama fans can choose from a wide range of as many as 10 dramas. StarHub TV is also the first in Singapore to offer selected TVB titles in HD (High Definition).

‪Following the shortened telecast window for StarHub TV’s VOD, StarHub will be adjusting its prices to $1.29 per episode (with GST) for standard definition content and $1.61 (with GST) for high definition TVB content. Those who purchase the entire series of a pre-cable drama will enjoy a discount of 10%. StarHub TV’s VOD is available only for customers with a Hubstation, Hubstation HD or HD interactive box.‪

In addition, the telecast window for TVB dramas on VV Drama (StarHub TV Channel 855) will be brought forward so that viewers can enjoy TVB dramas as early as six months from their debuts in Hong Kong and local video rental releases. This will be a substantial change from the current telecast window period of a year from video releases.‪‪

Addition of new weekend primetime belt on VV Drama‪
To provide more weekend entertainment choices for viewers who are fans of TVB dramas, a new TVB drama belt will be introduced on Saturdays and Sundays from 7pm to 8.45pm, where two back-to-back episodes will be shown on each day. Starting 19 June, this weekend primetime belt will feature first-run TVB dramas. With the introduction of the new belt, VV Drama viewers can enjoy first-run TVB dramas every day of the week.‪

Introducing TVB Video-On-Demand content on StarHub TV on Mobile
In order to deliver the ultimate TVB entertainment experience to our customers, StarHub will be boosting its offerings on StarHub TV on Mobile in July to include on-demand TVB content. Fans of TVB dramas and viewers who are constantly on the move will be able to catch as many as 10 pre-cable TVB dramas at their convenience. TVB dramas on StarHub TV on Mobile’s VOD will have the same shortened telecast window as StarHub TV’s VOD, i.e. as early as one month from their debuts in Hong Kong and local video rental releases. Currently, there are two linear TVB channels - TVBS News and TVBJ - available on StarHub TV on Mobile.‪ With this launch, on-demand TVB content will be available on all StarHub platforms - TV, Online and Mobile.

For more information on StarHub’s TV services, visit www.starhub.com/tv or call 1630.‪‪‪


We at singapore so lucky
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Astro new website looks cool..but so complicated..
Now I just want to mix and match my packages and so hard to do so..
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I actually love it and wait till the online B.player kicks in.


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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 3 2010, 07:53 AM)
it's a massive change isn't it? Yeah a bit confussing at first but it's so different and is designed so you can customise it. I've got my facebook, gmail, programme guide, google and news feeds all there on one home page.

I actually love it and wait till the online B.player kicks in.
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TallJustin,

What is the online B.player?

One question about the PVR, would it also be able to accommodate an external HDD?

I took a look at V2.0 last night briefly but did not see any major changes to the EPG. Is there more work being done on the EPG?
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QUOTE(Ahteh81 @ Jun 3 2010, 04:06 AM)
TVB Content On StarHub Gets Greater And Fresher‬‪


We at singapore so lucky
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Byond PVR has contract or not? I mean, like Byond, we need to stay for at least one year from the date of activation. Sorry guys, I didn't see any clause about contract on their FAQ and T&C. Just one I see is if you want to stop using the recording services, give at least one month notice before astro send out a person to collect the Byond PVR decoder and replace it with normal Byond... Hope someone can clarify this... hmm.gif
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TJ, I cannot see the upgrade package page on the new site. Or did I miss it? The link is there, but on the upgrade page, there's only the option for the sports pack upgrade.
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Do i need to return my old dish too if i upgrade to byond?
the web only says decoder..
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just got byond installed yesterday..

1) the pq is great but the volume of the sd channels are so low even in full volume..is there any way to rectify it?

2) can I get 5.1 sound if I connect the HDMI cable directly from the decoder to my av receiver and then the receiver to my tv?

3) is anyone selling coaxial cable to optical cable converter here?

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 3 2010, 08:26 AM)
Byond PVR has contract or not? I mean, like Byond, we need to stay for at least one year from the date of activation. Sorry guys, I didn't see any clause about contract on their FAQ and T&C. Just one I see is if you want to stop using the recording services, give at least one month notice before astro send out a person to collect the Byond PVR decoder and replace it with normal Byond... Hope someone can clarify this... hmm.gif
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About the contract, I checked with the Astro customer service, no contract for Byond PVR.
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Do i need to return my old dish too if i upgrade to byond?
the web only says decoder..
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Yes, they change it with new 65cm dish. Dish, decoder, remote & smart card all need to return. If you not return it, they will charge RM80 but smart card is a must.
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once downgrade u need to pay again for the new decoder...Astro will change normal decoder for u...
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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Jun 3 2010, 07:57 AM)
really... how you watching world cup?
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 2 2010, 06:09 PM)
Could be. I find it strange because almost all the programmes shown must have been filmed in 16:9 anyways. Why not just broadcast them like that.
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Most of movies are shot with aspect ratio of 21:9 not 16:9, because it was meant originally for cinema.

Therefore, even if you watch a movie, in so called 16:9 format, it is not the correct aspect ratio & cinematography effect intended by the movie director.


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About the contract, I checked with the Astro customer service, no contract for Byond PVR.
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Let me correct that, not contract if you upgrade from B.yond or from astro normal dmt. If you have no astro account and straight apply for PVR, you have to serve a 12 months contract.
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I'm actually malaysian working in singapore as a doctor for 2 years. I'm a loyal Astro fan since i was form 3. But when i went back to malaysia recently i found out that malaysian Astro HD is not up to standard compare to singapore HD. I felt bad for malaysian consumers of them paying so much for lower quality product and having high hope for this company. I think they should improve themself and should have more tv companies so they are more competitive. Just my 2 cents guys...No offence...whatever ppl waiting for PVR..we have it here with HD.


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just got byond installed yesterday..

1) the pq is great but the volume of the sd channels are so low even in full volume..is there any way to rectify it?

2) can I get 5.1 sound if I connect the HDMI cable directly from the decoder to my av receiver and then the receiver to my tv?

3) is anyone selling coaxial cable to optical cable converter here?

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QUOTE(Ahteh81 @ Jun 3 2010, 09:36 AM)
I'm actually malaysian working in singapore as a doctor for 2 years. I'm a loyal Astro fan since i was form 3. But when i went back to malaysia recently i found out that malaysian Astro HD is not up to standard compare to singapore HD. I felt bad for malaysian consumers of them paying so much for lower quality product and having high hope for this company. I think they should improve themself and should have more tv companies so they are more competitive. Just my 2 cents guys...No offence...whatever ppl waiting for PVR..we have it here with HD.
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Care to elaborate more about the standard thing and the lower quality product part? You mean less channel? Or quality of the HD channels? Or the design of the decoder?
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i've registered with astro careline to swap my MAX decoder to byond PVR, normally how long it will take to change it?

errmmm do i need to pay rm20 monthly or is it waived as well?
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i've registered with astro careline to swap my MAX decoder to byond PVR, normally how long it will take to change it?

errmmm do i need to pay rm20 monthly or is it waived as well?
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waived for 1 year..
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really... how you watching world cup?
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TallJustin,

What is the online B.player?

One question about the PVR, would it also be able to accommodate an external HDD?

I took a look at V2.0 last night briefly but did not see any major changes to the EPG. Is there more work being done on the EPG?
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b.player is online video it's also on the iPhone app store

no you can't connect an external HDD to the PVR at the moment, why would you want to?

EPG data will be improving soon, GUI is the same
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For WC, Astro has a better deal. Fullstop.
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I have B.yond as the 1st decoder and AstroMax as a second decoder (@RM 38 per month).
When I called Astro about upgrading the AstroMax to the B.yond PVR, they said:
1. no charge for the PVR (RM 300 waived)
2. no recording charge for 12 months (RM 10 per month waived)
BUT
3. need to pay additional RM 20 per month for the B.yond service on the 2nd decoder. WTF!

I am thinking of canceling my 2nd decoder (hardly watch) and sell off my AstroMax decoder?
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ANY QUESTION? hmm.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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TVB Content On StarHub Gets Greater And Fresher‬‪
Astro's On Demand [TVB Same Day Same Time Telecast] is so much better than what Starhub is offering. Starhub could not match it as TVB still needs to protect the local home video distributor's interest. sad.gif
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yes, how much... again?
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yes, how much... again?
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Stop comparing,
Malaysia is Malaysia
Singapore is Singapore.




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Stop comparing,
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Singapore is Singapore.
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JOR23N - stop comparing....Astro has FX HD n a Chinese HD channel ahead of S'pore.... sad.gif


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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 2 2010, 11:27 PM)
I'm pretty sure we are getting  it in 4:3 out of Singapore. the BBC does have a wide screen feed but I don't think we are taking it in.
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Hey TalllJustin, I've written to Starhub and BBC World to offer widescreen 16:9 for Starhub viewers....it was a long chain of e-mails and months of testing before Starhub finally offered it. I feel you should fight this for Astro Widescreen TV viewers since Widescreen TV is the norm nowadays. For broadcasters still broadcastings in SD 4:3 and who have no pans to go HD, they should at least upgrade to SD 16:9.....my 2 cents. Thanks. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(y2k @ Jun 3 2010, 10:08 AM)
I have B.yond as the 1st decoder and AstroMax as a second decoder (@RM 38 per month).
When I called Astro about upgrading the AstroMax to the B.yond PVR, they said:
1. no charge for the PVR (RM 300 waived)
2. no recording charge for 12 months (RM 10 per month waived)
BUT
3. need to pay additional RM 20 per month for the B.yond service on the 2nd decoder. WTF!
I am thinking of canceling my 2nd decoder (hardly watch) and sell off my AstroMax decoder?
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RM20 is for HD charge, off course you need to pay. If you want it waived for 12 months, buy Samsung TV, they have promo now whistling.gif

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No, you do not need to subscribe to HD. However, you will not be able to enjoy and record the Astro
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Note: RM10 monthly recording service fee is compulsory with the Astro B.yond PVR box.


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QUOTE(king_kenny @ Jun 3 2010, 09:23 AM)
Most of movies are shot with aspect ratio of 21:9 not 16:9, because it was meant originally for cinema.

Therefore, even if you watch a movie, in so called 16:9 format, it is not the correct aspect ratio & cinematography effect intended by the movie director.
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I'm talking about TV shows like CSI or the Simpsons, BBC News articles etc. I highly doubt any of these are produced in cinema aspect ratios.
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i dont like astro new website interface


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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Jun 3 2010, 10:26 AM)
I'm talking about TV shows like CSI or the Simpsons, BBC News articles etc. I highly doubt any of these are produced in cinema aspect ratios.
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21:9 ratio only for movie. Regular drama series and news are surely on 16:9. smile.gif
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My humble opinion there is nothing wrong in comparing for a good course. drool.gif We always hear our leaders say We are the best ! we are the cheapest in this region and so on at least now we get the truth to compare! hmm.gif

I think WC is $S100 on starhub

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Hey TalllJustin, I've written to Starhub and BBC World to offer widescreen 16:9 for Starhub viewers....it was a long chain of e-mails and months of testing before Starhub finally offered it. I feel you should fight this for Astro Widescreen TV viewers since Widescreen TV is the norm nowadays.  For broadcasters still broadcastings in SD 4:3 and who have no pans to go HD, they should at least upgrade to SD 16:9.....my 2 cents. Thanks.  biggrin.gif
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I agree rclxms.gif No one buys 4:3 TVs nowaday so it only makes sense that channels migrate to the new standard format.
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just got byond installed yesterday..

1) the pq is great but the volume of the sd channels are so low even in full volume..is there any way to rectify it?

2) can I get 5.1 sound if I connect the HDMI cable directly from the decoder to my av receiver and then the receiver to my tv?

3) is anyone selling coaxial cable to optical cable converter here?
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so, should I upgrade the new astro byond PVR or just use the 'normal' byond one??  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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Has anyone here already got byond pvr or wd passport av320, how is the recording? Pls give feedback if already has. hmm.gif
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just got byond installed yesterday..
1) the pq is great but the volume of the sd channels are so low even in full volume..is there any way to rectify it?
2) can I get 5.1 sound if I connect the HDMI cable directly from the decoder to my av receiver and then the receiver to my tv?
3) is anyone selling coaxial cable to optical cable converter here?
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How many times you need to repeat LOL
1)I know volume level is low, but I didn't notice any different between SD & HD channel. Is your firmware updated to ver 2.0?
2)yes, provided you receiver support 5.1 from HDMI. But only certain HD program will be available for 5.1, normally NGC HD & HBO HD.
3)I don't think so, you need to find it online. But you don't need it if you use HDMI to your avr
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 3 2010, 11:11 AM)
How many times you need to repeat LOL
1)I know volume level is low, but I didn't notice any different between SD & HD channel. Is your firmware updated to ver 2.0?
2)yes, provided you receiver support 5.1 from HDMI. But only certain HD program will be available for 5.1, normally NGC HD & HBO HD.
3)I don't think so, you need to find it online. But you don't need it if you use HDMI to your avr
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i repeated it coz no answers tongue.gif

1)How do I update the firmware? Is it automatically updated?

2)How about the sports channel,is it available in 5.1?

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QUOTE(y2k @ Jun 3 2010, 10:08 AM)
I have B.yond as the 1st decoder and AstroMax as a second decoder (@RM 38 per month).
When I called Astro about upgrading the AstroMax to the B.yond PVR, they said:
1. no charge for the PVR (RM 300 waived)
2. no recording charge for 12 months (RM 10 per month waived)
BUT
3. need to pay additional RM 20 per month for the B.yond service on the 2nd decoder. WTF!

I am thinking of canceling my 2nd decoder (hardly watch) and sell off my AstroMax decoder?
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Haiyo y2k...why WTF like that...I can assure you y2k, the PVR option only have PVR RM 10 charge as mandatory, the HD SEervice Fee of RM20 is not mandatory. I know that for a fact. I sudah buat leesech.

You change to PVR, better bargain, no additional fee for a year. Then only pay RM10. But by that time you salary increase by a few hundreds or thousand already! The Box is damn good you know. I'm using it now!! biggrin.gif
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I think it is a bit too much to pay the HD Service fee of RM 20 for each of the 2 decoders.
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i repeated it coz no answers  tongue.gif
1)How do I update the firmware? Is it automatically updated?
2)How about the sports channel,is it available in 5.1?
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1) Just leave your decoder in standby mode, in 5 minutes it will auto update. But if your firmware already have latest ver 2.0, no update will be perform.
2) not sure, i don't have 5.1 setup. you can test it. but i don't think so. you can get simulated 5.1 by setting your avr to Dolby ProLogic laugh.gif
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dolby pro logic cant beat the real deal 5.1 lol ><
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QUOTE(king_kenny @ Jun 3 2010, 09:23 AM)
Most of movies are shot with aspect ratio of 21:9 not 16:9, because it was meant originally for cinema.

Therefore, even if you watch a movie, in so called 16:9 format, it is not the correct aspect ratio & cinematography effect intended by the movie director.
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Incorrect. Most movies are shot in 1.85:1 (US) and 1.66:1 (some European countries). These includes dramas, comedies and some action movies. Most sci-fi and action movies are/were shot in 2.20:1 (Todd-AO process) and 2.40:1 (modern anamorphic and Super35 process). 2.35:1 is the Cinemascope aspect ratio, practically not used in modern filmmaking anymore. And 16:9 is 1.78:1.

Shooting using anamorphic lenses require more lights for the set, which means more money.

HBO HD does the 16:9 version of pan-and-scan in almost every HD film they show. Very few, such as the recently shown Caddilac Records, are shown in its original aspect ratio. HBO is afraid that people will complain about the black bars on their "expensive" HDTVs.

I do agree about the SD widescreen broadcast. Just as Astro is steering Malaysians into HD broadcast, they should steer the way to SD widescreen broadcast.

QUOTE(ameeyn @ Jun 3 2010, 11:20 AM)
2)How about the sports channel,is it available in 5.1?
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I can't tell if the sports channel are mixed in 5.1. But the Dolby Digital stream that is being fed into your receivers are DD 5.1, whether it has actual 5.1 tracks or not.


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aduhh...dah ada features record la plak...charge lagi....setakat 5 hengget kasik free je la kan baguss...astro dah untung banyak woooo doh.gif
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Hey guys, we are not comparing but i think the starhub is exccllent
The picture quality of starhub better is better and sounds better. im a doctor dunno technical stuff well but i know how to tell the difference. Sumore no interuption during rain. We are using cable point whereas astro using satellite disc.
My mum in malaysia subscribe to HD. She regreted because one of the astro pl told her got TV HD. Now she wants to cancel but have to pay charges.
Even the SD channel at starhub is nice...but overall i think our price is reasonable with so mny channels. OUR HBO no delay. The sound better. The surround better.
It's not about comparing but i pities you guys. You are consumers. i think by the time you have 10 HD channels, i think all of our channel is HD and we might not be payin for extras.
Sorry for my sarcasm.
P.S: If Astro is listening, it's not about making money but making the fans happy.
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Added on June 3, 2010, 12:18 pmsorry i meant astro ppl told my mum got TVB HD ad

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ok, let's stop this comparison... as in all things some plus, some minus

However, I like the fact that for Starhub, you only have one subscription and can rent as many decoders as you need, instead of having multiple subscriptions. This is really gouging the customers, Astro.




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yes once the govt stop your subsidies i think the astro rent and equipment will shoot up.

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QUOTE(Ahteh81 @ Jun 3 2010, 12:12 PM)
Hey guys, we are not comparing but i think the starhub is exccllent
The picture quality of starhub better is better and sounds better. im a doctor dunno technical stuff well but i know how to tell the difference. Sumore no interuption during rain. We are using cable point whereas astro using satellite disc.
My mum in malaysia subscribe to HD. She regreted because one of the astro pl told her got TV HD. Now she wants to cancel but have to pay charges.
Even the SD channel at starhub is nice...but overall i think our price is reasonable with so mny channels. OUR HBO no  delay. The sound better. The surround better.
It's not about comparing but i pities you guys. You are consumers. i think by the time you have 10 HD channels, i think all of our channel is HD and we might not be payin for extras.
Sorry for my sarcasm.
P.S: If Astro is listening, it's not about making money but making the fans happy.
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Added on June 3, 2010, 12:18 pmsorry i meant astro ppl told my mum got TVB HD ad
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You're a doctor? Now I feel pity for Singaporeans for having a doctor who can't even type and spell nicely, what if you spell the wrong prescription? But hell if you're a doctor, I'm a space scientist!
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How much time do you guys spend on Astro?

I still don't feel the need to upgrade. Will wait for more new channels.
Although I'm an avid HD-goer. & I'm not saying the crappy YouTube type but the Real Deal.


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You're a doctor? Now I feel pity for Singaporeans for having a doctor who can't even type and spell nicely, what if you spell the wrong prescription? But hell if you're a doctor, I'm a space scientist!
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You don't have to be so pumped up do you? wink.gif

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something xtra have to pay....its normal ma.....even u ask mamak to put extra lauk on ur nasi, u pay extra rite.....dun 4get, this is oni here but worldwide.....not defending 'they' but its a real world.....
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You're a doctor? Now I feel pity for Singaporeans for having a doctor who can't even type and spell nicely, what if you spell the wrong prescription? But hell if you're a doctor, I'm a space scientist!
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We seriously don't need personal attacks here.

So far the only Malaysian company that can/should compete with Astro is TM Net. Beyond Unifi, they can install FIOS; it's a substantial long-term investment but if they can do it, Astro would seem second rate. Once Astro's monopoly clause is over, TM can launch their own satellites to cover Sabah and Sarawak (limited FIOS access) and regional countries (satellite only). But this discussion is not this thread.


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is it me only or everyone cannot access to astro byond subscribe form.?
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i can't as well, might be website issue.
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You're a doctor? Now I feel pity for Singaporeans for having a doctor who can't even type and spell nicely, what if you spell the wrong prescription? But hell if you're a doctor, I'm a space scientist!
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starhub's advertisement is very effective shocking.gif subscriber is actually defending that cable company, even though they have to pay exorbitant amount to watch bola
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I have just requested for Beyond to be installed. Astro told me that the installation is free if I swapped the decoder, remote controller and the satellite dish. However if I intend to keep the decoder and remote I have to pay RM100 for the installation.

Is there any use if I keep the decoder? Can I bring to another room or another house to watch Astro if I keep the decoder? If there is no use for it then I might as well swap them for a free installation of Beyond.

Your advice is much appreciated.
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1- Just plug HDMI cable from decoder to your AVR
2- Change Audio settings at decoder to 5.1 Dolby Digital
3- Done.

Your will experince best 5.1 audio only on NGC HD. Good luck..
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I had do that... but, when I change the audio settings to DD.. it just quiet and nothing sound is produce, its just on HD ... My tv brands is Haier
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QUOTE(sharp56 @ Jun 3 2010, 02:00 PM)
I have just requested for Beyond to be installed. Astro told me that the installation is free if I swapped the decoder, remote controller and the satellite dish. However if I intend to keep the decoder and remote I have to pay RM100 for the installation.

Is there any use if I keep the decoder? Can I bring to another room or another house to watch Astro if I keep the decoder? If there is no use for it then I might as well swap them for a free installation of Beyond.

Your advice is much appreciated.
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Just let go of teh decoder lah. No point keeping it. The new B.yond Box is paired with the SMC. That means the card can't be used with any other box. If you keep as a spare also no use. If sell outside also people will only buy it for RM30-RM50. No reason to keep if you ask me.
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I had do that... but, when  I change the audio settings to DD.. it just quiet and nothing sound is produce, its just on HD ... My tv brands is Haier
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Your TV can't decode DD 5.1. What he meant is for AVR
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Your TV can't decode DD 5.1. What he meant is for AVR
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AVR?
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AVR?....Alien Vs Romans!
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AVR?
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AVR:
Wikipedia
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owh... thanks 4 da info !.. but, i want to know, how to plug in the DolbyDigital audio into my pioneer home teater.

hope you all can help me..
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 02:46 PM)
owh... thanks 4 da info !.. but, i want to know, how to plug in the DolbyDigital audio into my pioneer home teater.

hope you all can help me..
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what ur pioneer HT model?
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what ur pioneer HT model?
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it is XV-DV272
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We seriously don't need personal attacks here.

So far the only Malaysian company that can/should compete with Astro is TM Net. Beyond Unifi, they can install FIOS; it's a substantial long-term investment but if they can do it, Astro would seem second rate. Once Astro's monopoly clause is over, TM can launch their own satellites to cover Sabah and Sarawak (limited FIOS access) and regional countries (satellite only). But this discussion is not this thread.
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What monopoly clause are you talking about here? Here...

KUALA LUMPUR 24 Mac - Tujuh syarikat telah diberi lesen individu perkhidmatan aplikasi kandungan untuk tujuan menyediakan siaran sistem televisyen berbayar, selain Astro, sehingga Mac lepas, persidangan Dewan Rakyat diberitahu hari ini.

Timbalan Menteri Penerangan Komunikasi dan Kebudayaan, Datuk Joseph Salang berkata, namun begitu, sehingga kini belum banyak syarikat yang dapat menyediakan perkhidmatan tersebut menyebabkan rakyat Malaysia masih bergantung kepada perkhidmatan yang disediakan Astro.

Beliau berkata demikian ketika menjawab soalan Datuk Seri Azalina Othman Said (BN-Pengerang) sama ada kerajaan akan membuka peluang agar lebih banyak pengendali siaran televisyen berbayar beroperasi di negara ini.

Mengenai siaran Astro yang tiada penapisan, Joseph berkata, oleh kerana siaran Astro dipancarkan melalui satelit, agak rumit untuk siaran tersebut ditapis sebagaimana siaran televisyen yang lain.

Beliau bagaimanapun berkata, Astro mempunyai penapisan secara sendiri. - Bernama

The problem is since March 2009, even though 7 companies have the license and Astro no longer have the monopoly, no one comes forward to save us from Astro's Monopoly. As this rate, I think the one who is second rate is the other 7 companies.

Oh well this is not the place to discuss this anyway.
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 03:00 PM)
it is XV-DV272
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Seem like your HTiB doesn't have digital coax input, right?
If so, you can't. DD 5.1 can only connect using HDMI or digital coax output from byond decoder


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What monopoly clause are you talking about here?
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What he meant is Astro exclusive right to broadcast using satellite until 20??, I forgot.

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[quote=eMKs,Jun 3 2010, 03:18 PM]
Seem like your HTiB doesn't have digital coax input, right?
If so, you can't. DD 5.1 can only connect using HDMI or digital coax output from byond decoder

any other solution???

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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 03:00 PM)
it is XV-DV272
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This is old model and don't support HDMI input. Do ur pioneer have digital audio input?

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This is old model and don't support HDMI input. Do ur pioneer have digital audio input?
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it have HDMI support...

here the spec


Specifications


* HDMI 1080P Output
* USB Terminal
* Front Surround/Extra Power Mode
* Down-Firing Subwoofer
* Full Karaoke Functions
* Power Output RMS 60W x 6 (satellite x 5, subwoofer)
* 4 functions (DVD/Tuner/USB/Line)
* DVD/SVCD/VCD/CD Player
* MP3 Expander
* Voice Enhancer
* Progressive Scan (PAL/NTSC)
* Built-in DTS/Dolby Digital/Dolby Pro Logic II Decoders
* DivX/WMV/WMA/MPEG-4 AAC/MP3 Playback
* PhotoViewer (JPEG Playback)
* Sound Retriever Photo + Music Mix
* Playlist for easy song selection
* GigaByte Music (DVD Data Disc Playback)
* FM/AM 30 Preset Stations
* Tall Speaker units: 7.7cm + 2.6cm 2-way, Centre Speaker units: 7.7cm, Subwoofer unit: 16cm



hope can help
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off topic a bit.....

anybody knows how to open technician manual for sammy plasma????i want to try playing with the "showroom setting"...tq
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it have HDMI support...
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but HDMI only for output, no HDMI input right.

You need something like this
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but as a input in your HT
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 03:34 PM)
it have HDMI support...

here the spec

 
Specifications


    * HDMI 1080P Output
    * USB Terminal
    * Front Surround/Extra Power Mode
    * Down-Firing Subwoofer
    * Full Karaoke Functions
    * Power Output RMS 60W x 6 (satellite x 5, subwoofer)
    * 4 functions (DVD/Tuner/USB/Line)
    * DVD/SVCD/VCD/CD Player
    * MP3 Expander
    * Voice Enhancer
    * Progressive Scan (PAL/NTSC)
    * Built-in DTS/Dolby Digital/Dolby Pro Logic II Decoders
    * DivX/WMV/WMA/MPEG-4 AAC/MP3 Playback
    * PhotoViewer (JPEG Playback)
    * Sound Retriever Photo + Music Mix
    * Playlist for easy song selection
    * GigaByte Music (DVD Data Disc Playback)
    * FM/AM 30 Preset Stations
    * Tall Speaker units: 7.7cm + 2.6cm 2-way, Centre Speaker units: 7.7cm, Subwoofer unit: 16cm
hope can help
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This spec dont mention it capable input. Please check audio input at the back ur pioneer and list down here.
Or u can snap a clear picture for us to clarify.
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 3 2010, 10:25 AM)
RM20 is for HD charge, off course you need to pay. If you want it waived for 12 months, buy Samsung TV, they have promo now  whistling.gif

*Or you don't need to subscribe to HD package, so no additional RM20 monthly  icon_idea.gif
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I've bought the Samsung LCD tv and subscribe the byond promotion. Now I've been waiting for 2 weeks for Astro to call me up for the installation appointment. Then I call Astro callcentre and they informed me that no such order for my home installation. Yikes... then I call the shop and they mentioned need to send to their HQ first and then to Samsung bla bla bla. Then I call Samsung careline and they informed me that dealer cans end the byond order directly to Astro. D@mn it. For those wanna see World Cup in HD, better apply byond yourself and followup with Astro.... not much time my fren to ding-dong with the electrical retailer shops. Save the RM240 on other cheaper models or just ask the shop to lower the Samsung price without the byond promo... i believe they can lower it by RM100 to RM150.
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QUOTE(nocar @ Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM)
I've bought the Samsung LCD tv and subscribe the byond promotion. Now I've been waiting for 2 weeks for Astro to call me up for the installation appointment. Then I call Astro callcentre and they informed me that no such order for my home installation.  Yikes... then I call the shop and they mentioned need to send to their HQ first and then to Samsung bla bla bla. Then I call Samsung careline and they informed me that dealer cans end the byond order directly to Astro. D@mn it. For those wanna see World Cup in HD, better apply byond yourself and followup with Astro.... not much time my fren to ding-dong with the electrical retailer shops. Save the RM240 on other cheaper models or just ask the shop to lower the Samsung price without the byond promo... i believe they can lower it by RM100 to RM150.
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for me, it just take 3 working days from my form submission until installation...I sumbit my form last moday thru one of dealer's here, and today the astro guys come and install for me...damn fast...

noob question, from old decoder, we can set certain channel to be favourite channel and we can skip the non favourite channel when we activate the favourite menu (push 0 button)...however, how does this function works on b.yond...i already set several channel as favourite, but can't find the way to use that function...
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My personal view after reading the Byond FAQ and comments/inputs the past 2 days from those that tried to use HD other than specified WD 320GB.

If need recording function immediately, get the Byond PVR - RM300 (for those with exisiting Byond), comes with 500GB and Dual Tuner. Problem is need to lay another cable or use stacker-destacker(cost RM300)

Second option need to buy WD320AV HD at @300 but only 320GB and one tuner. Compared to above PVR option, not worth it. This option will be great if any HD can be connected so no need to spend another RM300 for a "special"HD.

I'll just wait, maybe in a months time they will update the Firmware to accept any HD above 160GB. Then we can use our spare HDs. rclxms.gif

Just my opinion....
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QUOTE(nocar @ Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM)
I've bought the Samsung LCD tv and subscribe the byond promotion. Now I've been waiting for 2 weeks for Astro to call me up for the installation appointment. Then I call Astro callcentre and they informed me that no such order for my home installation.  Yikes... then I call the shop and they mentioned need to send to their HQ first and then to Samsung bla bla bla. Then I call Samsung careline and they informed me that dealer cans end the byond order directly to Astro. D@mn it. For those wanna see World Cup in HD, better apply byond yourself and followup with Astro.... not much time my fren to ding-dong with the electrical retailer shops. Save the RM240 on other cheaper models or just ask the shop to lower the Samsung price without the byond promo... i believe they can lower it by RM100 to RM150.
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Which shop u buy that LCD? If ur willing to share la. smile.gif
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This spec dont mention it capable input. Please check audio input at the back ur pioneer and list down here.
Or u can snap a clear picture for us to clarify.
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ok.. thanks for da info... I had check my pioneer.... right.. it did not have digital audio in my HT.... so, i just use the red and white audio in only..
so, thanks all for help me... I will upgrade HT soon... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif (PROBLEM SOLVE) rclxm9.gif

Anyone who want to buy my Home Theater???? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 3 2010, 03:18 PM)
Seem like your HTiB doesn't have digital coax input, right?
If so, you can't. DD 5.1 can only connect using HDMI or digital coax output from byond decoder


Added on June 3, 2010, 3:21 pm
What he meant is Astro exclusive right to broadcast using satellite until 20??, I forgot.
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Not sure about that but based on teh Bernama article, apart from Astro, 7 others were given the license to provide pay tv services. However, non of them (except TM of course) have started operation.

Aside to Meon17,
You can buy Coax to optical converter (if your AVR have optical input). It'll cost you around 200-400)
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 04:24 PM)
ok.. thanks for da info... I had check my pioneer.... right.. it did not have digital audio in my HT.... so, i just use the red and white audio in only..
so, thanks all for help me... I will upgrade HT soon...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  (PROBLEM SOLVE)  rclxm9.gif

Anyone who want to buy my Home Theater????  whistling.gif
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got price and brand ar??? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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got price and brand ar??? whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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brand PIONEER... model HTZ-272DVD....

look for more detail:
http://www.pioneermalaysia.com.my/product_details.php?id=112

price...?? just PM me...
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Removed. Outdated.

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It's official : B.yond PVR is launched!!!

However, got to pay for installation (RM400), additional monthly fees for the PVR (RM10) and external HD (RM5)?? What is this?  vmad.gif Daylight robbery??

Astro B.yond Launches New Personal Video Recorder (PVR)
AXN HD Debuts in Malaysia
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Slowpoke. People has been discussing this since the last page of last version. Now only you know it is launched. doh.gif
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noob question, from old decoder, we can set certain channel to be favourite channel and we can skip the non favourite channel when we activate the favourite menu (push 0 button)...however, how does this function works on b.yond...i already set several channel as favourite, but can't find the way to use that function...
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- Press OK, banner will appear
- Press Green button, menu will appear on the left, select Favourite
- Scroll left/right, you'll see only favourite channel appear
- Press OK again to change channel
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Slowpoke. People has been discussing this since the last page of last version. Now only you know it is launched. doh.gif
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Oops, my bad.. have been in the cave for a while doh.gif
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 3 2010, 04:33 PM)
Not sure about that but based on teh Bernama article, apart from Astro, 7 others were given the license to provide pay tv services. However, non of them (except TM of course) have started operation.
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DETV & Fine TV already started their service through IP network lol.
But only Astro has a right to broadcast through satellite.
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QUOTE(Ahteh81 @ Jun 3 2010, 12:12 PM)
Hey guys, we are not comparing but i think the starhub is exccllent
The picture quality of starhub better is better and sounds better. im a doctor dunno technical stuff well but i know how to tell the difference. Sumore no interuption during rain. We are using cable point whereas astro using satellite disc.
My mum in malaysia subscribe to HD. She regreted because one of the astro pl told her got TV HD. Now she wants to cancel but have to pay charges.
Even the SD channel at starhub is nice...but overall i think our price is reasonable with so mny channels. OUR HBO no  delay. The sound better. The surround better.
It's not about comparing but i pities you guys. You are consumers. i think by the time you have 10 HD channels, i think all of our channel is HD and we might not be payin for extras.
Sorry for my sarcasm.
P.S: If Astro is listening, it's not about making money but making the fans happy.
Cheers

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Added on June 3, 2010, 12:18 pmsorry i meant astro ppl told my mum got TVB HD ad
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to be honest, their SD channel in starhub is not much better than astro's... its still blurrish and blocky... that really surprised me considering its cable tv... bandwidth isnt their main concern, but they are still stingy with it lol
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Jun 3 2010, 05:07 PM)
Removed. Outdated.
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you're just hurt me now.... cry.gif yes.. it is outdated... thats why i want to update my HT....
for those who want 2nd HT.. just PM me...


THINK BEFORE WRITE mad.gif

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I wonder when astro PVR can make recording direct to NAS via network.
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no you can't connect an external HDD to the PVR at the moment, why would you want to?
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500GB not enough laugh.gif
It will be great if PVR can support external HDD for additional storage, I will not hesitate to subscribe then.
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500GB not enough  laugh.gif
It will be great if PVR can support external HDD for additional storage, I will not hesitate to subscribe then.
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 05:24 PM)
you're just hurt me now....  cry.gif  yes.. it is outdated...  thats why i want to update my HT....
for those who want 2nd HT.. just PM me...
THINK BEFORE WRITE  mad.gif
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Aiya.. kena lagi.. I meant my message was outdated on the launch of B.yond PVR and hence I removed my own message. Not your gear lah.. did I refer to your HT in any way?

THINK BEFORE WRITE - I agree tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Jun 3 2010, 05:29 PM)
Aiya.. kena lagi.. I meant my message was outdated on the launch of B.yond PVR and hence I removed my own message. Not your gear lah.. did I refer to your HT in any way?

THINK BEFORE WRITE - I agree  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 3 2010, 04:33 PM)
Not sure about that but based on teh Bernama article, apart from Astro, 7 others were given the license to provide pay tv services. However, non of them (except TM of course) have started operation.

Aside to Meon17,
You can buy Coax to optical converter (if your AVR have optical input). It'll cost you around 200-400)
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it is really cost me... but, thanks 4 da info ! thumbup.gif

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Asstro really charge to much is not fair charge for record which is the feature is already have why not make complain to them ask them consider about charge for record.

I luck i own MAX which is not need to pay for record.
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QUOTE(jujubi @ Jun 3 2010, 05:39 PM)
Asstro really charge to much is not fair charge for record which is the feature is already have why not make complain to them ask them consider about charge for record.
I luck i own MAX which is not need to pay for record.
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After 1 year you will rant again sweat.gif
Astro just a follower, this is a trend for Pay TV operator now.
Take a look at this
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look ! now it is on facebook page ! it says : WE HATE BYOND PVR...

links:
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Added on June 3, 2010, 6:16 pmsee the DIRECTV HD channel... Over 160 HD channels...

link: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/c...ooternavtype=-1



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i think by the time you have 10 HD channels, i think all of our channel is HD and we might not be payin for extras.
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From the US HD channel list

'HBO Latino HD' shocking.gif I think they might be getting a bit desperate for new channels sad.gif

Looking through their channels, I have to say I thought more of them would have interested me.
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I do have interest of Astro having the Planet Green HD channel. Great channel to watch too. After all, it's part of Discovery too.biggrin.gif

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I do have interest of Astro having the Planet Green HD channel. Great channel to watch too. After all, it's part of Discovery too.biggrin.gif
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damn... i wonder if it is flexible, like lets say pay per use(charge one month)... for the hdd option.
i mean like june you use. then july you don't use.
can like that? pay for june only
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Those who gave in their Max for Beyond earlier and have to pay RM300  now,  hmm.gif  pls pm me rclxm9.gif
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haih... should i swap my MAX for this byond PVR??
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jun 3 2010, 07:21 PM)
damn... i wonder if it is flexible, like lets say pay per use(charge one month)... for the hdd option.
i mean like june you use. then july you don't use.
can like that? pay for june only
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yes, you can. But you must know, extra RM10 will be charged to you because "downgrade" of package.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jun 3 2010, 07:21 PM)
damn... i wonder if it is flexible, like lets say pay per use(charge one month)... for the hdd option.
i mean like june you use. then july you don't use.
can like that? pay for june only
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astro works like this, if you cancel something, you will get charge 10 bucks

for byond case, if you want to cancel recording function, you must pay RM10

for PVR case, besides paying RM10, your PVR box will be downgraded to byond box, then you must also pay extra box exchanging+processing fee
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I think monthly fee will be apply with this future function. Yeah their good sucking our money. sweat.gif
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haih... should i swap my MAX for this byond PVR??
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Just now astro byond advertisement mentioned about the 3 new channels! Confirmed liao on 16/6/10..yeahhhh
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jun 3 2010, 07:21 PM)
damn... i wonder if it is flexible, like lets say pay per use(charge one month)... for the hdd option.
i mean like june you use. then july you don't use.
can like that? pay for june only
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I wish. But that's not going to happen. Use it or lose it.

QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 3 2010, 08:03 PM)
Just now astro byond advertisement mentioned about the 3 new channels! Confirmed liao on 16/6/10..yeahhhh
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This is news only on June 1st.

I would upgrade to B.yond PVR if they allow any SATA HDD to replace the built-in one.


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wow... this facebook page is really hot now..

Now, they want

* FREE EXTERNAL HARD DISK FOR EXISTING BYOND CUSTOMER !

* NO MORE RM5/RM10 FOR RECORD !

link: http://www.facebook.com/pages/WE-HATE-BYON...81119008?flyingspaghettimonster=ts

Now, should we follow them or not??? answer?
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 08:21 PM)
wow... this facebook page is really hot now..

Now, they want

* FREE EXTERNAL HARD DISK FOR EXISTING BYOND CUSTOMER !

* NO MORE RM5/RM10 FOR RECORD !

link: http://www.facebook.com/pages/WE-HATE-BYON...hettimonster=ts

Now, should we follow them or not??? answer?
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lol...They want free external hard disk from astro
for existing byond customer biggrin.gif

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i'd say rm20 per year, external hdd ownself buy
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macam ni ke bro tanya for what ! doh.gif  If you want to pay for it pls go ahead
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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 06:14 PM)
look ! now it is on facebook page ! it says : WE HATE BYOND PVR...

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Added on June 3, 2010, 6:16 pmsee the DIRECTV HD channel... Over 160 HD channels...

link: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/c...ooternavtype=-1
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not trying to be a buzzkiller here, but some hd channels by directv are just an upscaled version of SD channels, its still blurry.. for example VH1 HD... was able to examine the original stream of that channel.... quite silly i would say... wasting bandwidth for nothing

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OFF TOPIC HERE !!! SORRY !!!

FINALLY, Rafa Benitez has LEFT LIVERPOOL !!!!

For all those Liverpool fans here, I don't know you will be HAPPY or SAD !!!!

For me, I don't care. Sorry, just some info only, again, sorry for OFF TOPIC.

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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 3 2010, 11:24 PM)
OFF TOPIC HERE !!! SORRY !!!

FINALLY, Rafa Benitez has LEFT LIVERPOOL !!!!

For all those Liverpool fans here, I don't know you will be HAPPY or SAD !!!!

For me, I don't care. Sorry, just some info only, again, sorry for OFF TOPIC.
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So we'll no longer see Mr Benitez on ESPNHD next season. But possibly on ASSP HD, as Inter is interested in him..
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I still cant change my package online. Should have it on phone then... doh.gif

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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 08:21 PM)
wow... this facebook page is really hot now..

Now, they want

* FREE EXTERNAL HARD DISK FOR EXISTING BYOND CUSTOMER !

* NO MORE RM5/RM10 FOR RECORD !

link: http://www.facebook.com/pages/WE-HATE-BYON...hettimonster=ts

Now, should we follow them or not??? answer?
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I dun't mind to buy new HDD but monthly fee is to much.
Astro still can make a big profit although they dont charge us month fee for PVR.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 3 2010, 07:53 AM)
it's a massive change isn't it? Yeah a bit confussing at first but it's so different and is designed so you can customise it. I've got my facebook, gmail, programme guide, google and news feeds all there on one home page.

I actually love it and wait till the online B.player kicks in.
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Hye TallJustin..
I said earlier that the astro new website is cool..very lively
However alot of links is still not usable..
Try the upgrade package link..there is only one option of upgrading to the sports package..
I cant upgrade to other package..
Then for mix and match packages, u have to sign in and all..before this u can just try2 first..
N finally the link for subscribing to Byond isnt working either..
Jusdt to let u know..other than that, its looks hot!!!

about the EPG, is it my eyes or has the size of the EPG on Byond look smaller after the update to V2.0?
I mean the it looks a lot better now..especially the astro log..
n if i may..i would like to suggest to u or whoever has the ability and authority..
To change the astro logo on the EPG, to the logo of the channel being viewed..
U know what i Mean..? The astro logo with the black backgound change to show the logo of ESPN if I was veiwing the channel..
I think it would look a lot nicer..
Just my 2 cents..
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I dun't mind to buy new HDD but monthly fee is to much.
Astro still can make a big profit although they dont charge us month fee for PVR.
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fb fan of astro ask to get free fee...erm, its their style......here...maybe we can suggest, give credits to us lyn forummers gifts...not ask much...a bit oso can...hehe icon_rolleyes.gif
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any of you watch French open yesterday? did you get flickering screen for 1~2 sec for the match Francesca Schiavone(ITA)[17] vs. Elena Dementieva(RUS)[5] , and happen few times during the match.

is it normal or what ?
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QUOTE(baowen @ Jun 4 2010, 08:49 AM)
any of you watch French open yesterday? did you get flickering screen for 1~2 sec for the match Francesca Schiavone(ITA)[17]  vs. Elena Dementieva(RUS)[5] , and happen few times during the match.

is it normal or what ?
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Well, other HD channel would get the same too, although the chance is 1/10. smile.gif
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Well, other HD channel would get the same too, although the chance is 1/10. smile.gif
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Okay, that mean it is normal?

just got beyond yesterday, didn't know that it is normal.
Thanks for explaining if not i will call astro cs biggrin.gif
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What is the model - byond pvr- is it similar to Pace TDS865? 'cos i saw TDS865 has 2 digital audio output options, coaxial & optical.
Great! rolleyes.gif But only 320GB, should have been upgraded to 500GB, i guess. hmm.gif
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dsubra, what you talking about - the byond PVR does have 500GB HDD


apexg2 - image location on astro website changed - so they're missing from this thread's front page

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QUOTE(dsubra @ Jun 4 2010, 09:12 AM)
What is the model - byond pvr- is it similar to Pace TDS865? 'cos i saw TDS865 has 2 digital audio output options, coaxial & optical.
Great!  rolleyes.gif But only 320GB, should have been upgraded to 500GB, i guess. hmm.gif
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Byond PVR only have one digital output. That is Digital Coaxial....

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dsubra, what you talking about - the byond PVR does have 500GB HDD


apexg2 - image location on astro website changed - so they're missing from this thread's front page

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 4 2010, 09:23 AM)
Byond PVR only have one digital output. That is Digital Coaxial....

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QUOTE(baowen @ Jun 4 2010, 09:11 AM)
Okay, that mean it is normal?

just got beyond yesterday, didn't know that it is normal.
Thanks for explaining if not i will call astro cs biggrin.gif
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Well... HD channel use MPEG4, so it was common thing. nod.gif
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Hmm, btw, anyone here have received confirmation call from Astro or Installer regarding Installation of the new PVR?? hmm.gif
I ordered my PVR 2 days ago from bro Cam..., but until now, still no confirmation call from Astro like my previous Byond.... I think, the queue list now sure getting longer... sad.gif Hopefully can get it before WC kick-off... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 4 2010, 10:05 AM)
Hmm, btw, anyone here have received confirmation call from Astro or Installer regarding Installation of the new PVR?? hmm.gif
I ordered my PVR 2 days ago from bro Cam..., but until now, still no confirmation call from Astro like my previous Byond.... I think, the queue list now sure getting longer...  sad.gif  Hopefully can get it before WC kick-off...  tongue.gif
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me too..subscribe to replace my existing beyond on wednesday at midvalley until now no confrmation receive from astro... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jun 4 2010, 10:38 AM)
me too..subscribe to replace my existing beyond on wednesday at midvalley until now no confrmation receive from astro... vmad.gif
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me too..subscribe to replace my existing beyond on wednesday at midvalley until now no confrmation receive from astro... vmad.gif
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you have tried to use the function of the new PVR? Hmm.. mind to explain about it? like how's the EPG, OSD, recording, rewind so on... Thx.... biggrin.gif

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anyone know if i m recorded astro SD or HD content into the WD My Pocket AV 320GB, can i watch the content thru my computer/bluray player (new bluray player got USB drive)/media player. if copy it out, i think surely cannotlah coz of copyright issue.
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 4 2010, 10:05 AM)
Hmm, btw, anyone here have received confirmation call from Astro or Installer regarding Installation of the new PVR?? hmm.gif
I ordered my PVR 2 days ago from bro Cam..., but until now, still no confirmation call from Astro like my previous Byond.... I think, the queue list now sure getting longer...  sad.gif  Hopefully can get it before WC kick-off...  tongue.gif
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Same here. I called Astro on 1st June to place the order for the PVR and they told me that someone would call for confirmation in 2 days. I called them again yesterday but got same answer. doh.gif Need it by 11June (WC) too. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(cyberkoh88 @ Jun 4 2010, 11:20 AM)
anyone know if i m recorded astro SD or HD content into the WD My Pocket AV 320GB, can i watch the content thru my computer/bluray player (new bluray player got USB drive)/media player. if copy it out, i think surely cannotlah coz of copyright issue.
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Can I transfer the recorded programme on my Astro B.yond PVR or Ext. HDD to an external device?
No. All television programmes are subject to copyright licensing restrictions.

My smartcard is not working. Will I still have access to my recordings if my smartcard is not replaced?
No, the smartcard is paired with the built-in hard disk in your Astro B.yond PVR or Ext. HDD. Without the smartcard, you will have no access to your recordings.

When my smartcard has been replaced with a new one, will my previous recordings be available?
Yes, your previous recordings were stored at the current hard-disk and now the new smartcard has been paired with your Astro B.yond box and hard disk.

How long are the programs stored in the hard-disk once it has been recorded?
Except for PPV or VOD channels, programmes are stored in a hard disk as long as it is not deleted.
However, a recorded programme tied to a package which you no longer subscribe to, will remain stored in your hard disk but you will not be able to watch it until you re-subscribe to that package.

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ok...some minor question here......

if we record some movies in portable WD that they offer...then we want to share the film with others....can this file sent or burnt and past to others and save back in others portable WD.then they play again in their own decorder...can or not?
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I have a question about recording from Byond to external DVR.

My Byond is currently connected to my AVR via HDMI. I am also using composite video and analog audio cables from Byond to my DVR. Problem is when I record HD channels, I only get video without audio. There is no problem with SD channels except that the audio is very soft.

Is there any setting I have missed out in the Byond box? I have tried replacing the cables but still no joy. sad.gif . Would appreciate any help I can get seeing that my PVR application will not come through before the WC starts next Fri. Thanks!
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QUOTE(vnair @ Jun 4 2010, 12:23 PM)
I have a question about recording from Byond to external DVR.

My Byond is currently connected to my AVR via HDMI. I am also using composite video and analog audio cables from Byond to my DVR. Problem is when I record HD channels, I only get video without audio. There is no problem with SD channels except that the audio is very soft.

Is there any setting I have missed out in the Byond box? I have tried replacing the cables but still no joy.  sad.gif . Would appreciate any help I can get seeing that my PVR application will not come through before the WC starts next Fri. Thanks!
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pls check yr audio settings in yr astro beyond home menu...change the digital to analog + digital....but changing this option will make yr AVR cannot decode Dolby Digital 5.1....fyi, ty external DVR only support analog audio...i m facing the same problem with u also...when want to record HD into my DVR, need to change setting...after that need to change back to digital so that can decode Dobly Digital 5.1 to my AVR.....except need to buy external DVR with HDMI in & out...this only for bluray recorder..i think cannot find in msia market yet and not many model for u to choose...price sure very expensive at the moment...not mistaken 3-4K per set..

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jun 4 2010, 12:02 PM)
ok...some minor question here......

if we record some movies in portable WD that they offer...then we want to share the film with others....can this file sent or burnt and past to others and save back in others portable WD.then they play again in their own decorder...can or not?
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Yeah.. i want to know too..

But someone here say EHDD will be auto reformat when u plug to decoder. But i'm not sure it is true or not. sweat.gif
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bro , if use mobile gear 111gb external HDD can it hook up wit astro plugnplay? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 4 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Jun 4 2010, 12:50 PM)
bro , if use mobile gear 111gb external HDD can it hook up wit astro plugnplay? rclxub.gif
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sorry... you can't use that kind of HDD blush.gif
For the time being, only 320GB WD My Passport AV are compatible with Byond...
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 4 2010, 12:59 PM)
sorry... you can't use that kind of HDD  blush.gif
For the time being, only 320GB WD My Passport AV are compatible with Byond...
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you already try eh?
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Jun 4 2010, 01:21 PM)
you already try eh?
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It's stated on their website...not a case of try or not try. doh.gif

p/s: I have B.yond with WD My Passport AV. IT's working perfectly. tried with my other HDD...non of them working. Failed verification error was shown.
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jun 4 2010, 01:27 PM)
It's stated on their website...not a case of try or not try.  doh.gif

p/s: I have B.yond with WD My Passport AV. IT's working perfectly. tried with my other HDD...non of them working. Failed verification error was shown.
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what is the feedback after you use it ?
worth it or no?

So i understand that it only able to record the channel you are watching ( for beyond decoder)
what if i didn't watch anything, can i schedule to record the program?

Scenario:
assume now is 8pm, and i am on Channel 311.
1. can i set it to record channel 311 start from 9pm~10.15pm ? ( and i switch off my TV after setting. )
2. this question a bit dumb but can it work after i program it, can i put my astro on standby mode ?





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Looks like now they are slow in responding, applied on 1/6 drool.gif until today no calls.Most likely I may get after WC . blush.gif
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QUOTE(cyberkoh88 @ Jun 4 2010, 12:28 PM)
pls check yr audio settings in yr astro beyond home menu...change the digital to analog + digital....but changing this option will make yr AVR cannot decode Dolby Digital 5.1....fyi, ty external DVR only support analog audio...i m facing the same problem with u also...when want to record HD into my DVR, need to change setting...after that need to change back to digital so that can decode Dobly Digital 5.1 to my AVR.....except need to buy external DVR with HDMI in & out...this only for bluray recorder..i think cannot find in msia market yet and not many model for u to choose...price sure very expensive at the moment...not mistaken 3-4K per set..
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Thanks for the reply. Will give this a try tonite. smile.gif
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can you record a program and watch another program in a different channell in the same time with astro plug "n" play?

This post has been edited by nikaizad: Jun 4 2010, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jun 4 2010, 12:02 PM)
ok...some minor question here......
if we record some movies in portable WD that they offer...then we want to share the film with others....can this file sent or burnt and past to others and save back in others portable WD.then they play again in their own decorder...can or not?
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Cannot lor, read the faq.
Your recorded program will only work with your smart card and your decoder only
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QUOTE(baowen @ Jun 4 2010, 02:49 PM)
what is the feedback after you use it ?
worth it or no?

So i understand that it only able to record the channel you are watching ( for beyond decoder)
what if i didn't watch anything, can i schedule to record the program?

Scenario:
assume now is 8pm, and i am on Channel 311.
1. can i set it to record channel 311 start from 9pm~10.15pm ? ( and i switch off my TV after setting. )
2. this question a bit dumb but can it work after i program it, can i put my astro on standby mode ?
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1. Yes
2. Am not sure but it suppose to be as it should switch on the decoder at specified time and start recording.
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Jun 4 2010, 02:44 PM)
can you record a program and watch another program in a different channell in the same time with astro plug "n" play?
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No. Because the decoder only have 1 tuner...
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Jun 4 2010, 03:44 PM)
can you record a program and watch another program in a different channell in the same time with astro plug "n" play?
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Nope. Only Byond PVR which come with dual tuner can do so..
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Is there any possibility Astro will upgrade their PVR to support external HDD as a additional storage. Waiting for that moment. wish.gif

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Jun 4 2010, 02:47 PM)
Is there any possibility Astro will upgrade their PVR to support external HDD as a additional storage. Waiting for that moment.  wish.gif
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Wait like one-two years...
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Jun 4 2010, 02:44 PM)
can you record a program and watch another program in a different channell in the same time with astro plug "n" play?
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Actually you watch existing recording video while recording live channel with EHDD PVR. nod.gif
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haha....somebody terer here can make own bug to enable all the settings?????hey....
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Astro should have made a goodwill gesture eh, something like free recording service to those who activated Byond for the first 2 months, the pioneers. Afterall, we helped them launch the thing.
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jun 4 2010, 11:11 AM)
Astro should have made a goodwill gesture eh, something like free recording service to those who activated Byond for the first 2 months, the pioneers. Afterall, we helped them launch the thing.
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jun 4 2010, 03:11 PM)
Astro should have made a goodwill gesture eh, something like free recording service to those who activated Byond for the first 2 months, the pioneers. Afterall, we helped them launch the thing.
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Yeah they should. But unfortunately their don't do it and it's not gonna happen. Sucking our money is their priority. sad.gif
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any 'insider' can ask for this?hahahahhaha
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If i have Astro HD-PVR, what would happen to reserved space of HDD if it's not for "Video on Demand"? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 4 2010, 06:30 PM)
If i have Astro HD-PVR, what would happen to reserved space of HDD if it's not for "Video on Demand"? hmm.gif
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Just a big waste I think. tongue.gif
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I think it's for buffer memory
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i juz saw and advertisement on astro..there will be AXN HD and FX HD...
FX HD means FOX HD is it???
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FX = Fox extended
I heard astro will only bring in Fox SD and FXHD
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hurmm..i wonder whether it would be put under Movies or Variety segment.. because if it is Movies' segment, then i x dapat la... sad.gif
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from astro facebook, it said FXHD will be in preview bouquet, after that most probably move into variety

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The edge of entertainment FXHD brings bolder, edgier content to savvy male and female viewers who are looking for sophisticated entertainment. The cutting-edge programming, bright humour and unexpected plots resonate with a discerning audience, pushing entertainment standards to a new level in High Definition.

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Which version is better for B.yond? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 4 2010, 11:14 PM)
Which version is better for B.yond? brows.gif
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Widescreen, then Overlapped, Fullscreen is last

edit - eeehhh, if you see the fullscreen version, you see the widescreen and overlap losses the upper detail

This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 4 2010, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(odengerrard @ Jun 4 2010, 09:11 PM)
i juz saw and advertisement on astro..there will be AXN HD and FX HD...
FX HD means FOX HD is it???
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No..FX HD and FOX HD is two different channels..
16 June 2010..It will be FX HD for all Byond viewers and FOX SD for customers with Variety package..
Most likely after free view period ends, FX HD will be moved to Variety package

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cant wait to watch those 2 HD channel......

so disappointing that astro beyond decorder cannot use pen drive or other external drive to record...

If there is an external way that we can tweak astro decorder, that would be damn nice...lolx.. But though is illegal....aiks

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