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 Astro B.yond V5.0, NEW WORLD OF ENTERTAINMENT

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post Jun 2 2010, 01:13 AM

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damn... tested with thumbdrives... doesnt work... it first checks the total disk space before continue doing anything else.... sigh... looks like im gonna get myself the WD hdd lol
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post Jun 3 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ahteh81 @ Jun 3 2010, 12:12 PM)
Hey guys, we are not comparing but i think the starhub is exccllent
The picture quality of starhub better is better and sounds better. im a doctor dunno technical stuff well but i know how to tell the difference. Sumore no interuption during rain. We are using cable point whereas astro using satellite disc.
My mum in malaysia subscribe to HD. She regreted because one of the astro pl told her got TV HD. Now she wants to cancel but have to pay charges.
Even the SD channel at starhub is nice...but overall i think our price is reasonable with so mny channels. OUR HBO no  delay. The sound better. The surround better.
It's not about comparing but i pities you guys. You are consumers. i think by the time you have 10 HD channels, i think all of our channel is HD and we might not be payin for extras.
Sorry for my sarcasm.
P.S: If Astro is listening, it's not about making money but making the fans happy.
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Added on June 3, 2010, 12:18 pmsorry i meant astro ppl told my mum got TVB HD ad
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to be honest, their SD channel in starhub is not much better than astro's... its still blurrish and blocky... that really surprised me considering its cable tv... bandwidth isnt their main concern, but they are still stingy with it lol
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post Jun 3 2010, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(meon17 @ Jun 3 2010, 06:14 PM)
look ! now it is on facebook page ! it says : WE HATE BYOND PVR...

links:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pa...Zg.933019026..1


Added on June 3, 2010, 6:16 pmsee the DIRECTV HD channel... Over 160 HD channels...

link: http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/c...ooternavtype=-1
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not trying to be a buzzkiller here, but some hd channels by directv are just an upscaled version of SD channels, its still blurry.. for example VH1 HD... was able to examine the original stream of that channel.... quite silly i would say... wasting bandwidth for nothing

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post Jun 6 2010, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Jun 5 2010, 11:42 PM)
it's the wd passport's low power requirement thats why byond can work with it
i'm not 100% sure about this
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it wont be a problem if the hdd is using external power, right?
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post Jun 6 2010, 12:29 PM

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anyone notice espn hd quality has slightly reduced? i notice more pixellation when they are showing soccer...
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post Jun 6 2010, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(victorwan @ Jun 6 2010, 11:05 PM)
Do you believe me if I tell you few years back..............when I was watching a movie on TV2 through Astro, suddenly in just 1 or 2 seconds, it showed a naked woman without wearing bra cheering something like that in a beach scene............and then disappeared and return to the movie.............Do you believe me?

Well..........that's what I experienced before.
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LOLLLLLL damn those engineers... they must be stunned at that and accidentally pressed some wrong button...


my experience was when astro WLT showing commercial...suddenly it became the TVB Jade HK feed, showing some tvb drama that i know is now showing in hk...so im assuming it was the direct feed.... for about 1 minute.... then poof back to commercials tongue.gif

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post Jun 6 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(agingamer @ Jun 6 2010, 07:56 PM)
i was told during the Midvalley roadshow that I must be subscribed in order to ACCESS my recorded programmes.

I was told that I won't be able to access all my own recorded programs when
     -   I am no longer subscribed to the channel (eg Sports)
or  -   I am no longer on the PVR monthly subscription.

Dunno true or not?
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yes its true

this is how the recording works... it records the raw encrypted stream... not the decrypted. So even if you are able to extract the file out to ure pc, its pointless, its encrypted and until you decrypt it, the file is not viewable.

When you play the video, it will decrypt it using some codes from the smart card. Hence when you unsubscribe a package (lets say sports), you can't view any sports recording anymore, because the smart card is updated with keys not including those channels you have unsubscribed (ok im not too sure how here works... but your smart card would not be able to decrypt sports recording anymore after you have unsubscribe sports). Hence, there won't be keys to decrypt the recorded sports clips.

The only time you can break this encryption is if you are able to break the NDS encryption directly. With this said, it is as good as breaking the encryption of the whole system astro is currently using. If you can break this encryption, you don't need PVR anymore. Get a DVB-S2 dual tuner, and you can do whatever crap with it, record endlessly and examine the feeds. Heck you can even record all channels put under the same frequency your tuner is tuning to. So lets say ESPN HD, HBO HD, HISTORY HD, NGC HD and ASSP HD all are under 12.345GHz freq, you are recording all of the content in that frequency. If you have 2 tuners, and each freq has 5 hd channels, at the end of the day, you can record 10 hd channels simultaneously lol.


Added on June 6, 2010, 11:51 pm
QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jun 6 2010, 11:44 PM)
Some people are saying that there's a crawler on Channel V saying that on the 15th of June, they will cease broadcast on Astro, to be replaced with Fox. I was happy with the addition of Fox, but not at the expense of Channel V!
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Noooooooooo, you can dispose off channel v if you are bringing in channel v hd !!!

Sigh, hope its not true... theres already not enough music video channels around!

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post Jun 7 2010, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Jun 7 2010, 12:49 AM)
Yea man, sigh. We're left with only MTV now. hitz.tv doesn't cut it for me.
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hitz.tv is full of shit probably due to heavy censoring...


Added on June 7, 2010, 1:15 am
QUOTE(azrin_kiko @ Jun 7 2010, 01:09 AM)
i wonder if our B.yond is 3D capable
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lol... within the same page, i saw u wondering many things already ahahaha

i dont think byond is 3d capable

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post Jun 8 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Jun 8 2010, 10:53 AM)
V channel is kinda sucks... the PQ is worst... so I dont mind losing it....
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the PQ is bad because astro blurs it and compressed it badly... if you have seen the original feed, its not bad, sharp... not this blurry
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post Jun 9 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(sibara @ Jun 9 2010, 12:54 AM)
People mentioned that when they change to gold plated hdmi cable then the PQ of SD channel is more lively.That is why some of the astro beyond customers swicth to buying that expensive cable and worth it.Is it true?
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I dont understand how this could happen. perhaps the gold plated hdmi cable only increase the conductivity between the interfaces.... it wont increase PQ since its digital signals. Placebo effects perhaps... pls enlighten us!
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post Jun 10 2010, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jun 10 2010, 03:33 AM)
yeah I work there

it's actually a really complex issue to sync the subtitle metadata stream with the Shifting delay of our censored output and the technology to do it has not been around long. This is why if we broadcast the show from our playout centre we do use closed captioning as there is no delay to deal with. Also sometime the foreign channels burn the subs into their feed rather then us doing it.
Lots of reasons for it. At least it's not like Cambodia where I saw 4 different languages simulateously all burnt into the feed. Literally over half the screen was covered in subtitles.
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well... perhaps you can censor it by blurring out the whole picture and silent the audio rather than cut off the whole scene lol.... will that eliminate the sync issue?

btw justin, any news on more HDDs support for byond recording? are you guys planning to stick with that WD 320 gb passport av only? sad.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 14 2010, 02:22 AM)
question - when i on TV, the HD channels are showing only black screen, audio no problem. if i off the decoder and on again, there is a chance that the visuals may appear BUT not on all HD channels.

non-HD channels are all fine. any ideas?
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hrm... ure problem seems similar to copyright protection failed.... did u get that msg?

what i did was, i off the tv screen and then on it again... worked well
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post Jun 16 2010, 09:40 AM

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hmm.. i saw FX HD on broadcast asia... it was widescreen and very sharp... perhaps only selected shows in hd lol....
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 20 2010, 06:24 PM)
try CH310, then u will reserve your judgement laugh.gif
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not really that great... the moment they play chinese mtv with some disco lights u see a lot of pixels... OUT!.. though their tvb dramas, lets say a lot of slow motion is alright.... =/


Added on June 20, 2010, 6:36 pm
QUOTE(asairp @ Jun 20 2010, 06:26 PM)
No improvement at all but GETTING WORSE.
I don't know why...
ESPN 812 pic quality are getting blur...sometimes i wonder did i forget to wear my glasses or what.
(Not becoz I'm watching too much HD...  brows.gif )

Guys are you all getting the same, tell me that i'm wrong. I wish that too......
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i get you ... even astro's own channel, like WLT... it got blurrer and more pixels... obviously they have reduced the resolution and bitrate.... sucks!

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post Jun 21 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 20 2010, 07:24 PM)
i know the answer to your question

i am using the same model LCD tv as my mother.................

mine is Byond PVR, my mom is normal astro
mine dun hav pixelation whereas my mom's hav lots
so its the TV's problem not astro

even same model tv gave different output doh.gif

i tried doing several settings to the LCD tv but to no avail sweat.gif
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Hrm.. im not using LCD but a plasma tv, i'm not sure how is it between old decoder and byond decoders, but i've been using byond decoder now (not pvr). For picture settings, I'm not using the dynamic colour presets, just some economic dimmer type, with lower contrast. Infact by setting this way you should see less pixels than high contrast and brightness settings. I have been plugging in to my laptop to play hd videos, i have some clips which is stagnant around 8 Mbps with similar disco scenes... but I dont see such obvious pixellation like the one occured in ch 310... meh. But it is good enough to watch tvb dramas, can see the faces so clearly lol although you would also notice some background would be a lil more fake ahahaha
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Jun 26 2010, 07:43 PM)
I noticed today that PQ for SD channels are more better than before....  icon_rolleyes.gif
I don't sure whether my eye got problem or they have increase the bit rate for SD channels
Channels like Ria, TV3, Discovery, Wah lai Toi and AFC have good PQ today....
maybe your theory was true..., they're getting more efficient now....
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WAT? WLT better? PQ quality for WLT has reduced tremendously ... I'm not sure if you guys noticed it... but its really really bad for WLT... Blurrer + more pixellation ....
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 26 2010, 09:07 PM)
Source (MPEG2) > B.yond decoder (MPEG4 upscale) = bad PQ sweat.gif

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Nope... before the additions of world cup channels, it was sharper and less pixellation... now, its like watching 384x576 at 1.8Mbps [previously WLT was 720 x576]
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 25 2010, 02:12 AM)
By the way, the "HD" logo in Astro Supersports HD World Cup channels is generated by the B.yond box. The "HD" is missing when I watched the HD channels in McDonalds; a white square box appears on the screen on the bottom right corner on these channels instead.
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hey there fuad, i'm not too convinced about that. i took a good look on the HD logo and i can see that pixellation would also occur on that logo with motion... since i'm quite confident that the HD logo is not generated by the box, unlike the press red button and text, it is not affected by pixellation during motion packed scenes.

As for the mcdonalds, perhaps you were watching the SD version? Or it was not a live match? The white square box appears on commercial sets installed for public viewing, if you visit pubs/gyms/mamaks and places that shows astro channels, they should be with the white box logo since they subscribe to commercial fees (if im not mistaken could be more exp compared to our residential fees), if they have those small codes running, then they are subscribing with residential fees lol.
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QUOTE(dxjb @ Jun 30 2010, 02:41 AM)
Bro..like this la..its not to say its cheating..but more of a mistake on ESPN HD part's (or Astro or whoever is responsible) for leaving the 'LIVE' logo on the screen..The mistake is that..yes the match is over n not LIVE..but ESPN HD is getting the feed from Star Sports and the 'programme' is LIVE if not the match..Star Sports are the broadcasters..they are the ones that are showing the tournament programming LIVE..ESPN HD just picks up the LIVE programming feed..yup..the match was not LIVE..the programme was though..I also terkena..
But better next time juz check Star Sports if they have the LIVE logo or not then switch back to ESPN HD..ESPN HD LIVE logo will be on the screen from 7pm-2am..so hard to judge..Cheating? er..more to to bad errors la..

Hope this clears somethings up.. rolleyes.gif
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not quite true... because this ESPN HD is playout by astro themselves... i still remember they played their own astro byond advertisement, with the ESPN HD logo in it.... so i'm quite sure that they are the ones controlling the channel/playout from astro's site... perhaps they have really forgotten to remove that LIVE word lol
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Jun 30 2010, 10:33 PM)
you're right....below is a screengrab of the ESPN HD SEA/Singapore channel - the channel bug is different.
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wooo, nice one, u subscribing to mio tv and its hd services or starhub? lol... they r migrating espn to mio soon, ahahah

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