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TSbadkid
post Feb 27 2014, 11:11 AM, updated 6y ago

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"CHINAMAN COMPANY"

Definition:
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Known for:

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Not every company has all characteristics as above, but, enough of the above to be identified as one.

Myths:
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Benefits:
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NOW here comes the naughty part: brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
LIST of known or speculated to be "Chinaman Companies"
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Help me List somemore, I will update, here. If you dare la ! That is. Pm and me or just comment tongue.gif I do believe there will be a lot. Since... it's Malaysia tongue.gif

Actually, "Chinaman Company" are not all together as bad as pictures painted them to be. You can learn and grow along with these companies. You come outmore experienced and more valued. And really, at the end of the day, it depends on where you ends up, and how you carry yourself. It's your own mentality and spirits that makes you successful in your own way.

The purpose of this thread is for jobseekers to know which and what kind of company are there interviewing for. And, have a mentality prepared for it. Anyway, if you're looking for jobs, 'Beggers can't be Choosers' right?

If you're the bosses who read this, sorry la.. hehe brows.gif You are boss anyway, shouldnt be bothered too much by these right? There is no such thing as bad publicity, only publicity

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Yeah man. I'm an @sshOle whistling.gif just a pussey keyboard nazi. brows.gif brows.gif

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post Feb 27 2014, 11:18 AM

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T E X C H E M (dont be fooled by its Japanese style marketing / management, those are "surface" stuff)

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post Feb 27 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Feb 27 2014, 11:18 AM)
add list:
T E X C H E M (dont be fooled by its Japanese style marketing / management, those are "surface" stuff)
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post Feb 27 2014, 11:23 AM

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MitsuC0pperF0il is a japanese top management is well
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post Feb 27 2014, 11:33 AM

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MitsuC0pperF0il is a japanese top management is well
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usually.. it's not about who is the boss. its about what kind of boss.
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QUOTE(badkid @ Feb 27 2014, 11:33 AM)
usually.. it's not about who is the boss. its about what kind of boss.
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post Feb 27 2014, 12:04 PM

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how about shin yang. heard alot about them.
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post Feb 27 2014, 12:21 PM

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how about shin yang. heard alot about them.
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It's a sibu company right? Its a family owned company. But I never met anyone who worked inside. I do know one of their family member during my primary school days. My classmate.
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post Feb 27 2014, 12:30 PM

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Do you consider those listed co like Berjaya Group and Hong Leong Group as Chinaman Companies?

In my own definition, yes.


Sometimes it can difficult to classify, it is all depends on individual interpretation I guess.

For example, Top Glove is Chinaman. Other glove making manufacturer like Kossan and Supermax also Chinaman companies.

But how about Hartalega? Their boss is a Chinese but staff benefit is much better than other gloves players. Then Hartalega is not chinaman?
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post Feb 27 2014, 01:40 PM

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Add in Reliance Pacific Bhd. Travelling company.

But. There is a new company Country Garden Sdn Bhd, own by china company. The benefit quick good.
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post Feb 27 2014, 01:50 PM

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Well. A good thread.

Sugarcane machine company;
squeeze sugarcane, take it out, and re-squeeze until super dry
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post Feb 27 2014, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Feb 27 2014, 01:40 PM)
Add in Reliance Pacific Bhd. Travelling company.

But. There is a new company Country Garden Sdn Bhd, own by china company. The benefit quick good.
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added. Reliance, i do know about it. It's actually a franchaise right?
So, the boss is the one who own that certain franchaise no?

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post Feb 27 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(badkid @ Feb 27 2014, 03:03 PM)
added. Reliance, i do know about it. It's actually a franchaise right?
So, the boss is the one who own that certain franchaise no?
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franchaise? boss own a company. hav a lot of branch not really is a franchise. er.. not understand.

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QUOTE(adwan @ Feb 27 2014, 12:30 PM)
Do you consider those listed co like Berjaya Group and Hong Leong Group as Chinaman Companies?

In my own definition, yes.
Sometimes it can difficult to classify, it is all depends on individual interpretation I guess.

For example, Top Glove is Chinaman. Other glove making manufacturer like Kossan and Supermax also Chinaman companies.

But how about Hartalega? Their boss is a Chinese but staff benefit is much better than other gloves players. Then Hartalega is not chinaman?
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somehow i feel that companies that are pioneered by post 80s or 90s malaysian young men are non-Chinaman company. Different method of management and staffs treatment bah.

Besides, even tho, berjaya is a big company (or even international) if the criteria mostly like above, then it should fit.

And for sake of argument, even P&G, Nielson, would have staffs clocked OT in the office after 8pm just to finish off works. No claim OT summore. And, that is MNC summore. Even more like perah sugarcane jus sampai kaw kaw.

That's why the clear definition will be the difference of culture, and the policy that the company brings.

A Chinaman company not necessarily boss must be chinese, china-man, or malaysian-chinese no.. no. It's the kind of culture. the feeling u get when u work in these companies (Especially family oriented ones)
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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Feb 27 2014, 03:13 PM)
franchaise? boss own a company. hav a lot of branch not really is a franchise. er.. not understand.
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from what i know. Reliance is a franchaise. Like KFC or McD, but it's in the travel & service industry. Although the format and everything standard is the same. But its the boss or tawkey who own that certain branch that earns the profit. Thats boss also the one who decides u gget how much bonuses right?
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QUOTE(badkid @ Feb 27 2014, 03:16 PM)
from what i know. Reliance is a franchaise. Like KFC or McD, but it's in the travel & service industry. Although the format and everything standard is the same. But its the boss or tawkey who own that certain branch that earns the profit. Thats boss also the one who decides u gget how much bonuses right?
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Their core business are not only travelling. Hotel and property including.
Ya, they decide how much are the bonuss. over 10 year never give an bonus (heard).
and i not really know about boss own a franchaise or not. laugh.gif
Anyway i already quit from that company. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 27 2014, 06:41 PM

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Their core business are not only travelling. Hotel and property including.
Ya, they decide how much are the bonuss. over 10 year never give an bonus (heard).
and i not really know about boss own a franchaise or not. laugh.gif
Anyway i already quit from that company.  biggrin.gif
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i see.. well, we're all looking for better prospects. so, it's quite fair to leave a comp when a better opportunity comes along.
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post Feb 27 2014, 10:25 PM

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post Feb 27 2014, 11:08 PM

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Not all Chinaman company are that bad especially the big ones.

BUT if it's a very small Chinaman company (<10), make sure you get away from it as far as possible!
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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Feb 27 2014, 10:25 PM)
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some of these name surprise me a lil.
still, big doesnt mean its not
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post Feb 28 2014, 12:25 AM

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what's the point of this thread???
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post Feb 28 2014, 12:41 AM

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Heard Unisem paid quite well many year back. Very big and advance factory in Ipoh producing semiconductor. Now I am no sure, but they are making losses.

If Unisem, YTL, Hong Leong group are also Chinaman companies, then there is a lots of chinaman companies in Malaysia.

Can go to Bursa website to look for the listing.
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what's the point of this thread???
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To ask ppl here don't join the chinaman companies?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 28 2014, 12:25 AM)
what's the point of this thread???
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Simple,
To let people know the background of a company before they join.
And Not to ask people not to join.
It's to let them have a prepared mentality of roughly what they would face in their coming job.
That is the purpose
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BDO Malaysia.

Now i know audit firms tend to squeeze their staff quite alot, but i never had issues with the hours, it was more about the mentality. Ive been in audit for quite some time and spent a couple of years there, all i have to say is aduiii!!. Regretted going in to work every morning.
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BDO Malaysia.

Now i know audit firms tend to squeeze their staff quite alot, but i never had issues with the hours, it was more about the mentality. Ive been in audit for quite some time and spent a couple of years there, all i have to say is aduiii!!. Regretted going in to work every morning.
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Yeah, audit firms are well known to do so.
Working in big 4 even more so. Like one of me fren wink.gif
But when it comes with high salary, expected workload higher lo.
if the office environment okay, and got conpensation as in OT claim or sumthing similar, then is not really Chinaman la.
But , like u mentioned, it's always about the mentality.

"With Great Powers, Comes Great Responsibility
With Great Salary, Comes High Workload"

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The term Chinaman company does sound a bit insulting though. Like you want to downgrade Chinese owned companies compared with western MNC, which means higher standard?

The problem here is not whether it is chinaman or not, actually it is SME or not SME.... In Malaysia, most SME's bosses are Chinese. Most of the SMEs in the world operate almost like "Chinaman" company here due to smaller scale capital and operation.
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Next time if we (Chinese) set up a company in Malaysia for doing business, then it will be termed as "chinaman" company by whoever worked under us. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(tr|n|ty @ Feb 28 2014, 03:29 PM)
The term Chinaman company does sound a bit insulting though. Like you want to downgrade Chinese owned companies compared with western MNC, which means higher standard?

The problem here is not whether it is chinaman or not, actually it is SME or not SME.... In Malaysia, most SME's bosses are Chinese. Most of the SMEs in the world operate almost like "Chinaman" company here due to smaller scale capital and operation.
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Feb 28 2014, 06:04 PM)
Next time if we (Chinese) set up a company in Malaysia for doing business, then it will be termed as "chinaman" company by whoever worked under us. biggrin.gif
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Actually you're both right.
The term Chinaman company is very demeaning and a tad insulting.
And always, often, we always compare with western MNC in term of these criteria of comparisons.

that's why, we have to set a clear definition of 'chinaman' as defined in my first post. and MYTH sections that bunks every other things.

'chinaman' here is clearly a certain mentality.
Even japanese management company also have these mentality.
You havnt worked for Indiaman company yet. also another kind of mentality.

That's why, 'chinaman company' now is no longer a term exclusive just for chinese.
BUT, it's a term that actually describing a certain type of management or mentality that plague people in general, impartially


Attached is an interesting long journal read about Malaysian kiasu-nessAttached File  The_Chinese_Malaysians_Selfish_Mentality_and_Behaviors_Rationalizing_From_the_Native_Perspectives.pdf ( 265.75k ) Number of downloads: 1132
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QUOTE(amidamaru @ Feb 27 2014, 12:04 PM)
how about shin yang. heard alot about them.
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A family run business with extensive tie with pek moh...in sarawak major government construction project is run by them..plantation don't say laa...
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This thread only about chinaman company...no melayu company? indian company? Kadazan company? Iban company?

or is it chinese ppl only know how to make business
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QUOTE(feekle @ Feb 28 2014, 06:41 PM)
This thread only about chinaman company...no melayu company? indian company? Kadazan company? Iban company?

or is it chinese ppl only know how to make business
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actually.... no... it's not just about chinaman company.
it's just that chinaman company is the most common around, that actually people feel the 'stingy' mentality.
Again, it's the mentlity/culture of management; not the race running the business.
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supermax glove manufacturing.
no bonus for less than 2 year service.
expect multitasking.
14 days annual leave.
alternate sat until 1.30pm.
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QUOTE(badkid @ Feb 28 2014, 06:30 PM)
Actually you're both right.
The term Chinaman company is very demeaning and a tad insulting.
And always, often, we always compare with western MNC in term of these criteria of comparisons.

that's why, we have to set a clear definition of 'chinaman' as defined in my first post. and MYTH sections that bunks every other things.

'chinaman' here is clearly a certain mentality.
Even japanese management company also have these mentality.
You havnt worked for Indiaman company yet. also another kind of mentality.

That's why, 'chinaman company' now is no longer a term exclusive just for chinese.
BUT, it's a term that actually describing a certain type of management or mentality that plague people in general, impartially
Attached is an interesting long journal read about Malaysian kiasu-nessAttached File  The_Chinese_Malaysians_Selfish_Mentality_and_Behaviors_Rationalizing_From_the_Native_Perspectives.pdf ( 265.75k ) Number of downloads: 1132

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I still think Chinaman company must be run by the Chinese. Otherwise, how can we called it "Chinaman"?

Indiaman company run by the Indian boss to certain extend same as chinaman company, but those are still India man company.

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QUOTE(rachel9966 @ Feb 28 2014, 09:46 PM)
supermax glove manufacturing.
no bonus for less than 2 year service.
expect multitasking.
14 days annual leave.
alternate sat until 1.30pm.
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i see.. added..
haha.. 14 days annual leave is standard..
mine, only 12 days annual..

QUOTE(KOHTT @ Feb 28 2014, 10:56 PM)
I still think Chinaman company must be run by the Chinese. Otherwise, how can we called it "Chinaman"?

Indiaman company run by the Indian boss to certain extend same as chinaman company, but those are still India man company.
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well, for my perspective this 'chinaman' doesnt necessarily must be chinese. well, as u said, indiaman also to a certain point also like chinaman.
it's becomes a cliche thing already.
like as in China people dont refer Malaysian Chinese as 马来西亚华人 (Malaysian Chinese) but refer Malaysian Chinese as 马来人 (Malays ) already. So, all ethnics no matter u what race, for outside people, we are just One race (One Nationality) iaitu = Malaysian (马来人) as how my Guangzhou said to his parents =.=

so, it is suitable, to be generally, to describe a mentality/culture impartially of race.
the term started is just because china-man are the one who behave this way first, like pioneer of the trend, thus started the label lo.
like u call people samseng.. doesnt matter chinaise, malay, or indian bad guys, all also call them as Samseng.

just for argument sake la.

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Anyone got anymore to add?
Haha.. currently, this is my 2nd job.
and i jumped from one Chinaman company to another.. lolz
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I would say all but some (not naming it specifically ) Berjaya Group of Companies.

Saii lohhh Saiii loohhh
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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 4 2014, 05:07 PM)
I would say all but  some (not naming it specifically ) Berjaya Group of Companies. 

Saii lohhh Saiii loohhh
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I had gone to Mazda's Head Office (One of the Berjaya Group Subsidiary) for interview way back to 3 years ago.

They give 3 bonuses depending whether they achieve the sales target or not....+ a Mazda car for higher level Managerial Staff. brows.gif
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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 4 2014, 05:07 PM)
I would say all but  some (not naming it specifically ) Berjaya Group of Companies. 

Saii lohhh Saiii loohhh
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BerjAya.. really arr.. i thought better woh..

Haha.. mayb it's founded by businessmen bornt before the 80s.. thats why it's like that punya style lo..

Old people old ways of doing things..
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Anyone got anymore to add?
Haha.. currently, this is my 2nd job.
and i jumped from one Chinaman company to another.. lolz
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so you are now working in a Chinaman company which is owned by a Chinese? haha brows.gif

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whoa !! this one surprised the frak out of me..

is it because of the super high workload??? u know, like client and all, a lot of workload, so hav tostay after officehour just to finish them??

u know, like almost like in audit companies like that..
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Hong Leong Bank, this is what I heard from a friend. The management meeting need to shout to get a chance to talk comment. lol
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Hong Leong Bank, this is what I heard from a friend. The management meeting need to shout to get a chance to talk comment. lol
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LOL.. it's either everyone's talking at same time.
or everyone is arguing.. haha
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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Feb 27 2014, 01:40 AM)
Add in Reliance Pacific Bhd. Travelling company.

But. There is a new company Country Garden Sdn Bhd, own by china company. The benefit quick good.
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I dont know who buys tours from reliance, unless MATTA,its super duper expensive! THeir shops are always empty in KL/Sunway/Penang etc.
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I dont know who buys tours from reliance, unless MATTA,its super duper expensive! THeir shops are always empty in KL/Sunway/Penang etc.
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actually, they do get corporate businesses. that one i know.. not necessarily they only rely on walk-in customers. i personally knows this
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p@blic b@nk lol
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p@blic b@nk lol
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yup. added. i know this will come out sooner or later
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another pattern is:

son of Founder after study firstwork is at company, straight away become Manager.
1 yrs later become Director...
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For local engineers, the pay is simply not up to market average. Terrible benefits for big company and so many projects to do.
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i always believe those who work in chinaman company are those with lower set of skills or certification with no where to go
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If you want to work for a Chinaman company don't work for those big ones like Public or Hong Leong Group. Work for those very very small ones where the pay is miserable, the hours are long and gruelling and you are expected to do everything from sales to accounting. Better still if you have a boss that generally just don't care. I tell you if you can put in 4-5 years in those kind of jobs, really work your @sses off and be very very good at your job and really get to know the business and the people (i.e. the suppliers, customers, etc) you can easily come out and set-up your own company and take all the clients away. Its your ticket to your own company with min risk.

But strange none of the younger generation people see this golden opportunity.
There is always opportunity behind hardship. But people see the hardship but they don't see the opportunity

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I had this experience before. Applied for engineering position in a chinaman company but ended appointed as technical assistant. Doing ridiculous work like clerk and very low pay. And the bos expect you to do work extra time.

i would say, whatever vendor that have authorized capital around 1 mil or less, they must be a chinaman company
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If you want to work for a Chinaman company don't work for those big ones like Public or Hong Leong Group. Work for those very very small ones where the pay is miserable, the hours are long and gruelling and you are expected to do everything from sales to accounting. Better still if you have a boss that generally just don't care. I tell you if you can put in 4-5 years in those kind of jobs, really work your @sses off and be very very good at your job and really get to know the business and the people (i.e. the suppliers, customers, etc) you can easily come out and set-up your own company and take all the clients away. Its your ticket to your own company with min risk.

But strange none of the younger generation people see this golden opportunity.
There is always opportunity behind hardship. But people see the hardship but they don't see the opportunity
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This !
Exactly this is the positiveattitude!
Thanks man!
The kind of push and motivation needed.
That's what i mean by "if can survive Chinaman, can survive anything"
it's lik super gungho one..
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Mar 23 2014, 01:55 PM)
If you want to work for a Chinaman company don't work for those big ones like Public or Hong Leong Group. Work for those very very small ones where the pay is miserable, the hours are long and gruelling and you are expected to do everything from sales to accounting. Better still if you have a boss that generally just don't care. I tell you if you can put in 4-5 years in those kind of jobs, really work your @sses off and be very very good at your job and really get to know the business and the people (i.e. the suppliers, customers, etc) you can easily come out and set-up your own company and take all the clients away. Its your ticket to your own company with min risk.

But strange none of the younger generation people see this golden opportunity.
There is always opportunity behind hardship. But people see the hardship but they don't see the opportunity
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The idea is very interesting. I did not see any graduate opt for this option unless that is their parent business.

Yes. It might be good if someone want to be entrepreneur and start up own business. Good to learn up how to set up the business.

But if no intention to start own business, then it is waste of time and our limited life span.

Small Chinaman company system should be quite simple and no proper process in place. The resume also does not look impressive to the future employer if that person intend to look for work elsewhere.
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Mar 25 2014, 11:11 AM)
The idea is very interesting. I did not see any graduate opt for this option unless that is their parent business.

Yes. It might be good if someone want to be entrepreneur and start up own business. Good to learn up how to set up the business.

But if no intention to start own business, then it is waste of time and our limited life span.

Small Chinaman company system should be quite simple and no proper process in place. The resume also does not look impressive to the future employer if that person intend to look for work elsewhere.
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Well ask youself do you really want to work for others for all your life? If your answer is yes, then you should join an mnc and more power to you.
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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Mar 23 2014, 01:55 PM)
If you want to work for a Chinaman company don't work for those big ones like Public or Hong Leong Group. Work for those very very small ones where the pay is miserable, the hours are long and gruelling and you are expected to do everything from sales to accounting. Better still if you have a boss that generally just don't care. I tell you if you can put in 4-5 years in those kind of jobs, really work your @sses off and be very very good at your job and really get to know the business and the people (i.e. the suppliers, customers, etc) you can easily come out and set-up your own company and take all the clients away. Its your ticket to your own company with min risk.

But strange none of the younger generation people see this golden opportunity.
There is always opportunity behind hardship. But people see the hardship but they don't see the opportunity
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Good, then the fella will create a same ol chinaman company, with more less similar chinaman benefit and ethic for their (future) employees.
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Good, then the fella will create a same ol chinaman company, with more less similar chinaman benefit and ethic for their (future) employees.
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Good, then the fella will create a same ol chinaman company, with more less similar chinaman benefit and ethic for their (future) employees.
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Well, they can. Then in 5 years time he will have another competitor, who will breed another competitor, who will breed another competitor. Then the buyers rejoice. The workers will rejoice too coz then they have 3 companies to work for and they will go to the highest bidder.
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Well, they can. Then in 5 years time he will have another competitor, who will breed another competitor, who will breed another competitor. Then the buyers rejoice. The workers will rejoice too coz then they have 3 companies to work for and they will go to the highest bidder.
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hahaha..
anyway, the question about looking job elsewhere, i still think it is a fair world out there.. anyone can work for anybody.

but the idea of being own boss is really out of the box.. haha
not a new concept tho, seen a lot of people doing it.
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lol, my friend is working there, but i'm not sure of her condition.
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Really?? :> not surprising..
anyone worked there got anything to sayyy??
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Really?? :> not surprising..
anyone worked there got anything to sayyy??
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Loll...don't be surprised. Just got off interview with SunW3Y.

Here's what I was told by interviewer. I was applying for Sr. Exec. in a core business unit.

"We are currently short on staff, so I expect you to take on other people's roles". Seriously?? rclxub.gif

"My staff all work from 9am - 9pm. Some come in during weekends. I never force them, they must like the company very much"....fcuk, yeah right. doh.gif doh.gif

Then, try to beat on my expected salary. Say too high, experience not relevant etc. I say ok, I will consider. I smiled, then shut up. Got ready to pick up my folder. Fcuking wasted my time going for the interview. Guys, don't even bother applying. Unless you even want no life.

To be fair, he did mention bonus is 3-4 months. More if you work harder. tongue.gif


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Ya la.. The company I work now also like that..
I fresh grad multi task everything, and they always give me last minute works.. 15min before meeting with client suddenly ask to read tender.. Why I need to read that in the first place when I am just a programmer :/
Work like a slave from 9 am to 1am next day, even on weekend. No epf, no socso no bonus, no bonus OT. They say cuz I am in probation so no need all those..
Even project milestone also I need to sedia, Project Manager was like blur blur about that and asked me, say works already 7 years.

TS, you got PM. I dun way say the company name here

ps: Simply changing job soon.. Dunno if I can apply for another. My resume already bad now (4 months exp only, who wants to hire?)
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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ Apr 14 2014, 04:23 PM)
Ya la.. The company I work now also like that..
I fresh grad multi task everything, and they always give me last minute works.. 15min before meeting with client suddenly ask to read tender.. Why I need to read that in the first place when I am just a programmer :/
Work like a slave from 9 am to 1am next day, even on weekend. No epf, no socso no bonus, no bonus OT. They say cuz I am in probation so no need all those..
Even project milestone also I need to sedia, Project Manager was like blur blur about that and asked me, say works already 7 years.

TS, you got PM. I dun way say the company name here

ps: Simply changing job soon.. Dunno if I can apply for another. My resume already bad now (4 months exp only, who wants to hire?)
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Like seriously. Like a slave you know. rclxub.gif
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S@puraKenc@na BEstwide Sdn Bhd.

For local engineers, the pay is simply not up to market average. Terrible benefits for big company and so many projects to do.
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My niece work at there as HR exec i guess.
She said the company quite good because she learn a lot compared to her previous company hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ Apr 14 2014, 04:23 PM)
Ya la.. The company I work now also like that..
I fresh grad multi task everything, and they always give me last minute works.. 15min before meeting with client suddenly ask to read tender.. Why I need to read that in the first place when I am just a programmer :/
Work like a slave from 9 am to 1am next day, even on weekend. No epf, no socso no bonus, no bonus OT. They say cuz I am in probation so no need all those..
Even project milestone also I need to sedia, Project Manager was like blur blur about that and asked me, say works already 7 years.

TS, you got PM. I dun way say the company name here

ps: Simply changing job soon.. Dunno if I can apply for another. My resume already bad now (4 months exp only, who wants to hire?)
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I went thru this before here a good advice on how to jump around like a pro

1.Make a skills based resume
2.Only write what you have experience in and dont write the company name or duration
3.Mention some reputable companies that you had been in
4.NEVER!! let your boss be your referee always be a colleague who is pro u

Source : I jump around like a boss every 1-3 months on every chinaman company I accidently landed in rclxms.gif only stayed year long on companies that treat me right.
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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Apr 14 2014, 09:44 PM)
I went thru this before here a good advice on how to jump around like a pro

1.Make a skills based resume
2.Only write what you have experience in and dont write the company name or duration
3.Mention some reputable companies that you had been in
4.NEVER!! let your boss be your referee always be a colleague who is pro u

Source : I jump around like a boss every 1-3 months on every chinaman company I accidently landed in  rclxms.gif only stayed year long on companies that treat me right.
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Bro,

Can share....If they asked you why you not happy with current company during interview, how to answer? sweat.gif
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Bro,

Can share....If they asked you why you not happy with current company during interview, how to answer?  sweat.gif
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Just write at your resume "Has been working since (what year you are 18)"
I'd answer boss dont want retire how to move up or hit max salary and etc learn to be a sweetmouth and bullshit a bit cool2.gif
they will think you've been there for a long time rclxms.gif
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What do badkid mean in the first post?
"High new employee turnover rate, and senior employee stayed in companies for a long long time"

Why senior employee would stay while the turnover rate is high? cannot brain.. If turnover rate is high means employees are not satisfies.. including senior right? enlighten me.

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What do badkid mean in the first post?
"High new employee turnover rate, and senior employee stayed in companies for a long long time"

Why senior employee would stay while the turnover rate is high? cannot brain.. If turnover rate is high means employees are not satisfies.. including senior right? enlighten me.
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what he meant is certain old employees that had stayed years in that particular company holding senior positions.

NOT everyone will move on even if they are not satisfied. There are certain ppl that complains up n down every single day but do not have the guts to move on/jump. Or maybe they have commitment that prevented them from jumping. Ppl with family especially.
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My niece work at there as HR exec i guess.
She said the company quite good because she learn a lot compared to her previous company hmm.gif
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well i guess that's one of the criteria of being a chinaman company :

A LOT of work + same salary / some increment


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well i guess that's one of the criteria of being a chinaman company :

A LOT of work + same salary / some increment
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yeah and some too much work and keep expecting people to OT without compensation. some chinaman company show high salary but the salary/working hours is less than becoming a 7 eleven worker.... mad.gif
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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ Apr 14 2014, 04:23 PM)
Ya la.. The company I work now also like that..
I fresh grad multi task everything, and they always give me last minute works.. 15min before meeting with client suddenly ask to read tender.. Why I need to read that in the first place when I am just a programmer :/
Work like a slave from 9 am to 1am next day, even on weekend. No epf, no socso no bonus, no bonus OT. They say cuz I am in probation so no need all those..
Even project milestone also I need to sedia, Project Manager was like blur blur about that and asked me, say works already 7 years.

TS, you got PM. I dun way say the company name here

ps: Simply changing job soon.. Dunno if I can apply for another. My resume already bad now (4 months exp only, who wants to hire?)
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kesian... no epf and all that memang terrible la..
Yah, saw yr PM.
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QUOTE(johnchew91 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:41 AM)
What do badkid mean in the first post?
"High new employee turnover rate, and senior employee stayed in companies for a long long time"

Why senior employee would stay while the turnover rate is high? cannot brain.. If turnover rate is high means employees are not satisfies.. including senior right? enlighten me.
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what i meant was high turnover rate of new employees... or fresh grad.. or new generation workers.. or Gen-Y workers.. haha
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what i meant was high turnover rate of new employees... or fresh grad.. or new generation workers.. or Gen-Y workers.. haha
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but sometimes you can't blame the employers, these gen Y employees may have some attitude problems too. these new ones always want easy life and good pay (mostly), but I'm not generalizing.
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but sometimes you can't blame the employers, these gen Y employees may have some attitude problems too. these new ones always want easy life and good pay (mostly), but I'm not generalizing.
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yes.. i agree.. thats why lo.. if everyone wans bigger this more this.. then who wans to work in a small company..

i hav a friend who is a business ma who started his business 3 yrs ago.. being boss really have to consider so much. employees.. profit... revenue.. because of one word: responsiblity to look after employees.. haha.. how to giv employees a lot if the company not making a lot..
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yes.. i agree.. thats why lo.. if everyone wans bigger this more this.. then who wans to work in a small company..

i hav a friend who is a business ma who started his business 3 yrs ago.. being boss really have to consider so much. employees.. profit... revenue.. because of one word: responsiblity to look after employees.. haha.. how to giv employees a lot if the company not making a lot..
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so it boils down to staff retention in short. no matter you're a local small company, chinacompany or mnc. if the management is no good. turnover will be higher, no?
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so it boils down to staff retention in short. no matter you're a local small company, chinacompany or mnc. if the management is no good. turnover will be higher, no?
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yes.. i agree.. thats why lo.. if everyone wans bigger this more this.. then who wans to work in a small company..

i hav a friend who is a business ma who started his business 3 yrs ago.. being boss really have to consider so much. employees.. profit... revenue.. because of one word: responsiblity to look after employees.. haha.. how to giv employees a lot if the company not making a lot..
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but some chinaman company are abusive they making alot but say they arent because the boss is driving a 6 year old merc and not a new one mad.gif

QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 17 2014, 09:41 AM)
so it boils down to staff retention in short. no matter you're a local small company, chinacompany or mnc. if the management is no good. turnover will be higher, no?
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Hello there..

I was with a chinaman company before. Yes Mr TS, whats in the first post is like 90% true.

One of my then director once told, if i really willing to learn, he will let me.
Until i got drowning water level nosehigh, then only he will pass a stick.
I took the challenge.

And somehow ithelps a lot i dont hv my boss w me all the time, i kinda handle multimillion projects all by myself whereby my boss visiting like twice or thrice per month. I still got to attend my laziness and being not a morning person.

Now on my next venture in my career, another chinaman company as well.
But i will try hard to instill a good discipline this time around.
But still having about the same mindset, 'whatever gets the job done' i will do whatever it takes to complete the project as long as no violation against ethics, religion, and law.

And we know very well, its already a fat challenge to abide all the rules in construction industry. May all this hardwork will be fruitful in yrs to come
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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Apr 17 2014, 01:08 PM)
but some chinaman company are abusive they making alot but say they arent because the boss is driving a 6 year old merc and not a new one  mad.gif
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Ok let make it this way .He makes said 10 million for this year how they going to justify the following years they are earning the same ?
Assets deprecation eg machines , hidden cost eg entertainment fees or travellingto get project ,all those time spent , have you take that into calculation ?
I feel you have a grudge over so call china man company .

Most people here never stand in the employer shoes to think , imagine when the market goes down, there's still overhead expenses to be covwr, employees demand increment yearly when company doing good , what if company making lost do you want to deduct a portion from it too ?

And boss that change car often sometimes it's about cash flow , they loan and sell to cover the debt you won't know .They own the company , of course they make the rules .If you are capable le enough you may register and startup your own business

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Ok let make it this way .He makes said 10 million for this year how they going to justify the following years they are earning the same ?
Assets deprecation eg machines , hidden cost eg entertainment fees or travellingto get project ,all those time spent , have you take that into calculation ?
I feel you have a grudge over so call china man company .

Most people here never stand in the employer shoes to think , imagine when the market goes down, there's still overhead expenses to be covwr, employees demand increment yearly when company doing good , what if company making lost do you want to deduct a portion from it too ?

And boss that change car often sometimes it's about cash flow , they  loan and sell to cover the debt you won't know .They own the company , of course they make the rules .If you are capable le enough you may register and startup your own business
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True. Let support ur idea w the real life example. Here goes

Situation A

Le boss told me 'why la they get u this car. So small one. Its okay when we receive the progress payment later we gonna buy you a new larger car lah. But must wait for payment first'

The cars bought later wasnt for me lol.even the project also making a huge loss.

Situation B

When my current project is about to finish, just waiting for handover inspection n such, demob back to office waiting to be deployed to new project.
Almost one month, few tenders submitted, site visits, yet no real LA, no assurance of getting new projects soon. I asked my other boss, how long we would last w/o new projects? He said 3 months at best.
Fr my admin, they told me sometimes we struggle to keep the account balance. Too many payment to be made, too little payment received. So there are few times we got our gaji late till my housemate also bising late on rental. Sometimes, one of the directors inject his personal fund just to ensure we got our gaji.



I was once remember listening on bfm a song sang by dato idris jala iirc.
'We will pay u, but when being asked when, we surely asnwer when we get paid.'
He keeps repeating the line 'when we get paid'. Implyinb thats like the sop of most business in malaysia. Ask for payment no need malu just tell them straight we havnt got paid yet. Blaming culture much. Lel.

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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ Apr 14 2014, 04:23 PM)
Ya la.. The company I work now also like that..
I fresh grad multi task everything, and they always give me last minute works.. 15min before meeting with client suddenly ask to read tender.. Why I need to read that in the first place when I am just a programmer :/
Work like a slave from 9 am to 1am next day, even on weekend. No epf, no socso no bonus, no bonus OT. They say cuz I am in probation so no need all those..
Even project milestone also I need to sedia, Project Manager was like blur blur about that and asked me, say works already 7 years.

TS, you got PM. I dun way say the company name here

ps: Simply changing job soon.. Dunno if I can apply for another. My resume already bad now (4 months exp only, who wants to hire?)
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what the????

i am still in probation period, got epf, got bonus, got ot

please consider to join a more 'humanity' company
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ahahah my company is chinese company, boss is chinese, but the style never chinese, i mean at least when comes to employee, our boss never treat is in a stingy way, quite generous though, everyone is just like friends
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Haha I can't believe there is a thread specially 4 the chinaman company. Kudos ts. rclxms.gif I also in chinaman company coming out from MNC which kicked me out after only 2 weeks probation. doh.gif Now I am staying strong after 2 years. laugh.gif
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Haha I can't believe there is a thread specially 4 the chinaman company. Kudos ts. rclxms.gif I also in chinaman company coming out from MNC which kicked me out after only 2 weeks probation. doh.gif Now I am staying strong after 2 years. laugh.gif
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Loll...don't be surprised.  Just got off interview with SunW3Y.

Here's what I was told by interviewer.  I was applying for Sr. Exec. in a core business unit.

"We are currently short on staff, so I expect you to take on other people's roles".  Seriously?? rclxub.gif

"My staff all work from 9am - 9pm.  Some come in during weekends.  I never force them, they must like the company very much"....fcuk, yeah right.  doh.gif  doh.gif

Then, try to beat on my expected salary.  Say too high, experience not relevant etc.  I say ok, I will consider.  I smiled,  then shut up.  Got ready to pick up my folder.  Fcuking wasted my time going for the interview.  Guys, don't even bother applying.  Unless you even want no life.

To be fair, he did mention bonus is 3-4 months.  More if you work harder. tongue.gif
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I work in a chinaman company now. those bosses change direction very fast 1 geh. everytime I pusing steering like racing rally sport. things all messy lor. no standard protocol. employee work like a they "hutang" the company.

chinaman company oso got pros 1 geh. u ajar boss go out for beer talk, they like u very much. unfortunate im not like tat.. haha...and working hours force bcome flexible hours. come in 10am, work until 7-9pm. subjective to boss mood tat day.
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suka suka tukar policy.. suka suka tambah policy.. especially policy about $$$$$$
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Just write at your resume "Has been working since (what year you are 18)"
I'd answer boss dont want retire how to move up or hit max salary and etc learn to be a sweetmouth and bullshit a bit  cool2.gif
they will think you've been there for a long time  rclxms.gif
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Recently my friend recommended me to IBM, but they sent me a test.. The questions were easy but the time was like.... holy... crap.. at the end I think I din make it. cry.gif I don't really mind working hard overnight, weekend and all if I got everything's right, really. If it was worth the efforts.
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Ok let make it this way .He makes said 10 million for this year how they going to justify the following years they are earning the same ?
Assets deprecation eg machines , hidden cost eg entertainment fees or travellingto get project ,all those time spent , have you take that into calculation ?
I feel you have a grudge over so call china man company .

Most people here never stand in the employer shoes to think , imagine when the market goes down, there's still overhead expenses to be covwr, employees demand increment yearly when company doing good , what if company making lost do you want to deduct a portion from it too ?

And boss that change car often sometimes it's about cash flow , they  loan and sell to cover the debt you won't know .They own the company , of course they make the rules .If you are capable le enough you may register and startup your own business
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Technically when company not doing good we do get a pay cut.... Its totally unfair when profitable chinaman no share bonus but when unprofitable cut our pay vmad.gif
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Technically when company not doing good we do get a pay cut.... Its totally unfair when profitable chinaman no share bonus but when unprofitable cut our pay vmad.gif
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hahahhaaa... just heard me fren complained about his company last night during yumcha session..

he said all this while his company got giv cash award for students (children of employees) who do well in studies. From primary school until university level.

Then this year around sudden change policy, deduct rm5 from every employees' payroll to channel into the education award fund ! What does that got to do with single employees ! hahaha..

To add salt summore, theylimit for children who go uni, only allow 1 child to claim uni award per degree. Meaning that after child 1 done degree, then only child 2 can claim degree @.@

it seems company not doing well, but employees suffer

Ini punya company pun adakah .. aiyorrrrr rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Then ini company you can middle finger and show F U 2 the boss and leave the F out of here. doh.gif doh.gif
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I wonder any Mat Salleh company (with Mat Salleh upper management) that run like chinaman company...can list?
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Chinaman company:
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2) Mudah.com.my
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P1 chinaman leh? dont they pay OT + very lenient come late policy for engineering department hmm.gif
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P1 chinaman leh? dont they pay OT + very lenient come late policy for engineering department hmm.gif
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Most company will not pay OT for exec level, can come late is good, why are you complaining??
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Most company will not pay OT for exec level, can come late is good, why are you complaining??
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let me correct you on that

All Chinaman company will not pay OT for exec level, can come late is good, why are you complaining??
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let me correct you on that

All Chinaman company will not pay OT for exec level, can come late is good, why are you complaining??
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Wrong, I know almost all MNC do not pay OT for engineers. They also seldom request you to work overtime.

Are you against or pro flexible working hours?? So far I know, most company expect you to be punctual.
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Wrong, I know almost all MNC do not pay OT for engineers. They also seldom request you to work overtime.

Are you against or pro flexible working hours?? So far I know, most company expect you to be punctual.
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Pro...
I'm guessing your not from technical line hmm.gif As far as I've experienced so far in technical line of work most companies dont mind if your late less than 1 hour, keep long hair, not shave, wear casual rather than formal and look like a piece of shit since you dont really handle customers thumbup.gif Only some chinaman company is bothered icon_rolleyes.gif
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when u think juicy, think liana
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P1 chinaman leh? dont they pay OT + very lenient come late policy for engineering department hmm.gif
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P1 main share holder is Puan Chan Cheong (CC Puan). some of the HODs in P1 is somehow or another related to him.

also, if u got close relationship, u can do what u want la... even a fast promotion if u know who to rub shoulders with.
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P1 main share holder is Puan Chan Cheong (CC Puan). some of the HODs in P1 is somehow or another related to him.

also, if u got close relationship, u can do what u want la... even a fast promotion if u know who to rub shoulders with.
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yup i know I went there thats why I questioned when someone says P1 is chinaman company hmm.gif
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My worst experience,

1. No OT, have some allowance, but if you are travelling with him, no allowance given.
2. The company only have four person including me.
3. First month, ask me go to site, but me bad luck, i dropped one of the equipment. Initially it was ok, cause it was still working. Then the next morning, he noticed that there's a crack on the side of the equipment. Got mad, throw his hp on the floor.
4. Won't tell or teach you directly, ask you do, does wrongly, he will scold you. His training is a spartan training type.
5. insurance also I need to buy myself, cause the job requires that. Not company sponsored.
6. help him to do some personal things, said that it's related to the job.

When I left, he still thinks he is right about how he treated me. He said that he do like that to make me a stronger person. And scolded me 'You think the world revolves around you?'

I must thank him in a way, I realised many things. My first job is a comfort zone for me, nice boss, nice colleagues and easy work. But this chinaman company, I couldn't last for a month. Anyhow, I think I am mentality stronger now thanks to him. But I still think that his way is not the correct way to treat an employee. He treats employee, as if like we are supposed to work and die for the company, since he paid us. If he treats me good nevermind, too bad, he is mean. hahaha..
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My worst experience,

1. No OT, have some allowance, but if you are travelling with him, no allowance given.
2. The company only have four person including me.
3. First month, ask me go to site, but me bad luck, i dropped one of the equipment. Initially it was ok, cause it was still working. Then the next morning, he noticed that there's a crack on the side of the equipment. Got mad, throw his hp on the floor.
4. Won't tell or teach you directly, ask you do, does wrongly, he will scold you. His training is a spartan training type.
5. insurance also I need to buy myself, cause the job requires that. Not company sponsored.
6. help him to do some personal things, said that it's related to the job.

When I left, he still thinks he is right about how he treated me. He said that he do like that to make me a stronger person. And scolded me 'You think the world revolves around you?'

I must thank him in a way, I realised many things. My first job is a comfort zone for me, nice boss, nice colleagues and easy work. But this chinaman company, I couldn't last for a month. Anyhow, I think I am mentality stronger now thanks to him. But I still think that his way is not the correct way to treat an employee. He treats employee, as if like we are supposed to work and die for the company, since he paid us. If he treats me good nevermind, too bad, he is mean. hahaha..
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You should publish the company name here, so he'll have tough time employing people so he can learn his lesson. What company?
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add list:
T E X C H E M (dont be fooled by its Japanese style marketing / management, those are "surface" stuff)
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It's japanese no doubt. what makes you think typical japanese is better than chinaman?
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Pro...
I'm guessing your not from technical line hmm.gif As far as I've experienced so far in technical line of work most companies dont mind if your late less than 1 hour, keep long hair, not shave, wear casual rather than formal and look like a piece of shit since you dont really handle customers thumbup.gif
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My worst experience,

1. No OT, have some allowance, but if you are travelling with him, no allowance given.
2. The company only have four person including me.
3. First month, ask me go to site, but me bad luck, i dropped one of the equipment. Initially it was ok, cause it was still working. Then the next morning, he noticed that there's a crack on the side of the equipment. Got mad, throw his hp on the floor.
4. Won't tell or teach you directly, ask you do, does wrongly, he will scold you. His training is a spartan training type.
5. insurance also I need to buy myself, cause the job requires that. Not company sponsored.
6. help him to do some personal things, said that it's related to the job.

When I left, he still thinks he is right about how he treated me. He said that he do like that to make me a stronger person. And scolded me 'You think the world revolves around you?'

I must thank him in a way, I realised many things. My first job is a comfort zone for me, nice boss, nice colleagues and easy work. But this chinaman company, I couldn't last for a month. Anyhow, I think I am mentality stronger now thanks to him. But I still think that his way is not the correct way to treat an employee. He treats employee, as if like we are supposed to work and die for the company, since he paid us. If he treats me good nevermind, too bad, he is mean. hahaha..
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Loll....good write up...wondering if scolding is common in Chinaman type company? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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Loll....good write up...wondering if scolding is common in Chinaman type company?  hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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it common especially in cantonese
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My worst experience,

1. No OT, have some allowance, but if you are travelling with him, no allowance given.
2. The company only have four person including me.
3. First month, ask me go to site, but me bad luck, i dropped one of the equipment. Initially it was ok, cause it was still working. Then the next morning, he noticed that there's a crack on the side of the equipment. Got mad, throw his hp on the floor.
4. Won't tell or teach you directly, ask you do, does wrongly, he will scold you. His training is a spartan training type.
5. insurance also I need to buy myself, cause the job requires that. Not company sponsored.
6. help him to do some personal things, said that it's related to the job.

When I left, he still thinks he is right about how he treated me. He said that he do like that to make me a stronger person. And scolded me 'You think the world revolves around you?'

I must thank him in a way, I realised many things. My first job is a comfort zone for me, nice boss, nice colleagues and easy work. But this chinaman company, I couldn't last for a month. Anyhow, I think I am mentality stronger now thanks to him. But I still think that his way is not the correct way to treat an employee. He treats employee, as if like we are supposed to work and die for the company, since he paid us. If he treats me good nevermind, too bad, he is mean. hahaha..
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Waaa... we have same situation lol
Except that I lasted 6 months, :'D
I feel more stupid now
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i tahan for d current chinaman company for 1 year d ..just nice.. phew,thank god im working on a new job soon. weeeeeeeeee.... smile.gif
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It's japanese no doubt. what makes you think typical japanese is better than chinaman?
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i tahan for d current chinaman company for 1 year d ..just nice.. phew,thank god im working on a new job soon. weeeeeeeeee.... smile.gif
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Even Acc3nture also categorize as one of it. is all about business and rat race. Publish their company name here, teach them a lesson..
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Chinaman companies are the the crabs (or craps,whatever) in our lives. It makes one feel the need to survive everyday.

On the other hand, corporations like the GLC is like a pot of simmering water and we, the frogs. Slowly boiling us to "sleep" while thinking the surrounding world is still rosy and nice.
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Even Acc3nture also categorize as one of it. is all about business and rat race. Publish their company name here, teach them a lesson..
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I don't have the guts to tell the company name. biggrin.gif oh well,you have not heard of it for sure,as long it's not the famous one like other companies do. I only know of this company is my friend introduced me in there,but she cabut earlier,unlike me. coz i believe if i cabut lesser than 1 year working experience,no other companies would hire me.Oh yea,the best part is must get bonus 1st only ciao,dont care whether the bonus is less or lots,but heard from other colleagues.the bonus is fixed. chinaman company-i dont expect they will give alot,as long got bonus better than never.i'm still ok with it. lol blush.gif blush.gif

just wanna share the bad experiences of mine.:

1.I take leave for traveling,they scolded me like mad,as if I was in a sin..(p.s:not only applies to me,and other colleagues as well)

2.people take leave only ma,also not your leave,how come scold people till like that one? =.=

3.written said it's given that specific job position right,but ended up you have to do mini other tasks from other departments,is like doing admin job lol.but luckily,i told the superior off during appraisal time,i cannot cope with X,i just wanna cope with Y.thats it!and lucky I'm able to focus on Y from that day onwards only.

4.credits they take,shits we get!
-so many times la. even if the work is also done by me ... as long don't expect they will praise u on d hardwork that u have paid off.
p.s:i guess many people are facing this. rclxub.gif :

and etc...definitely...those are d main ones so far..

and finally found a new job,looking forward,hopefully it's a better one.... rclxms.gif

anyway if wanna think of changing job next time,i will definitely see the pros n cons of the posted companies in lowyat forum here before i think twice to apply lol. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

d forum here definitely helping me lots. .. thank you! biggrin.gif

p.s:i always read this forum,just that i'm too lazy to type ... XD
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Updated. the list kept expanding :3

haha.. its like Gl@ssdoor Malaysia LoL
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here are a few more chinaman companies my friends compiled, I just help them post brows.gif

Y.S.P. Industries
Brilliance MSC Sdn Bhd
Tong Woh Enterprise
CSC Malaysia
Unique Systems And Automation (M) Sdn Bhd
H THREE A PRINT
DKSH Corporate Shared Services
TDH Technologies
ALPHA PRECISION TURNING ENGINEERING
Ipsos
Boss Solutions Sdn Bhd
Excard Corporation
Wellmedic Healthcare
Acacia Fabrics
MAA Takaful Berhad
Herbs 'N' Food
AL-ITQAN GLOBAL SDN BHD
Maxvec
Kraiburg TPE Technology
Unifiedcomms
BPO OUTFIT
Advance Pact Sdn Bhd
Ye Chiu Metal Smelting
Ganiart sdn bhd
Enovade sdn bhd
septarian sdn bhd
Codemasters Studios
Locus-T Online
adamant system
Kim Hin Ceramic
U C MAS Education Corporation Sdn Bhd
Streamline Solutions
Prudential Services Asia
Bike Bear Sdn Bhd
ASWIG SOLUTIONS
Shimano Components
Advansoft
Foto Charlie
Ebahn Technology
GuocoLand
FrameMotion Studio
Yell Research
Willowglen MSC Berhad
dagang halal

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another company i know...

S1lv3rL@k3
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QUOTE(buukarim @ Apr 9 2014, 12:25 PM)
F@K S1LV3RL@KE...was there before....
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Why that company? Saw them doing recruitment in my U
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I must clarify. Under Silverlake group there are many companies. Not all companies are like that because there are too big with 80+ companies under the group.

Thus some company does act like one because it depends on the leadership.

They do not provide benefits like any other foreign companies and they give it just right for you to work for them.
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here are a few more chinaman companies my friends compiled, I just help them post  brows.gif

Y.S.P. Industries
Brilliance MSC Sdn Bhd
Tong Woh Enterprise
CSC Malaysia
Unique Systems And Automation (M) Sdn Bhd
H THREE A PRINT
DKSH Corporate Shared Services
TDH Technologies
ALPHA PRECISION TURNING ENGINEERING
Ipsos
Boss Solutions Sdn Bhd
Excard Corporation
Wellmedic Healthcare
Acacia Fabrics
MAA Takaful Berhad
Herbs 'N' Food
AL-ITQAN GLOBAL SDN BHD
Maxvec
Kraiburg TPE Technology
Unifiedcomms
BPO OUTFIT
Advance Pact Sdn Bhd
Ye Chiu Metal Smelting
Ganiart sdn bhd
Enovade sdn bhd
septarian sdn bhd
Codemasters Studios
Locus-T Online
adamant system
Kim Hin Ceramic
U C MAS Education Corporation Sdn Bhd
Streamline Solutions
Prudential Services Asia
Bike Bear Sdn Bhd
ASWIG SOLUTIONS
Shimano Components
Advansoft
Foto Charlie
Ebahn Technology
GuocoLand
FrameMotion Studio
Yell Research
Willowglen MSC Berhad
dagang halal
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Loll....I applied to one. Thank God didn't get the job. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Loll....I applied to one.  Thank God didn't get the job.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(g_kw2 @ Apr 28 2014, 10:29 AM)
I must clarify. Under Silverlake group there are many companies. Not all companies are like that because there are too big with 80+ companies under the group.

Thus some company does act like one because it depends on the leadership.

They do not provide benefits like any other foreign companies and they give it just right for you to work for them.
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I agreed. This company too many private companies under them.
if too many campanies means too many of idiotic ppl working with them just to survive.~

on the other hand,
Just depending ur luck when u join~ their HR good staff oredi leave which stays those retired & idiotic ppl.
Even their chairman Kopi'O also an idiot saying craps in the slake conference about their launching of SCCIM.
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QUOTE(g_kw2 @ Apr 28 2014, 10:29 AM)
I must clarify. Under Silverlake group there are many companies. Not all companies are like that because there are too big with 80+ companies under the group.

Thus some company does act like one because it depends on the leadership.

They do not provide benefits like any other foreign companies and they give it just right for you to work for them.
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to be fair, some MNCs do exhibit these kinda patterns as well, do not just point finger to chinese/SMEs

it's still depends on your luck, eg. what kind of bosses or line managers do you end up with, and so forth
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Apr 28 2014, 02:32 PM)
to be fair, some MNCs do exhibit these kinda patterns as well, do not just point finger to chinese/SMEs

it's still depends on your luck, eg. what kind of bosses or line managers do you end up with, and so forth
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I agree kaw kaw !!
It's just that the top management of chinese/SME will breed more managers or directors with poor management mentality. aka chinaman bit of mentality.
Like what they say: feathers of the same bird flock together.
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QUOTE(badkid @ Apr 28 2014, 07:10 PM)
I agree kaw kaw !!
It's just that the top management of chinese/SME will breed more managers or directors with poor management mentality. aka chinaman bit of mentality.
Like what they say: feathers of the same bird flock together.
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yo bro add these to the list

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Codemasters and Frame Motion is in the list ? shocking.gif How did you come up with this list. Several of my friends work in these 2 studios and non have any complaint shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 29 2014, 09:30 AM)
Codemasters and Frame Motion is in the list ?  shocking.gif  How did you come up with this list. Several of my friends work in these 2 studios and non have any complaint  shakehead.gif
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well several of my friends told me pay is peanut, no ot, sometime make people work till 1 am, and when boss badmood from whatever outside reason always take it out on employees for no reason hmm.gif
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well several of my friends told me pay is peanut, no ot, sometime make people work till 1 am, and when boss badmood from whatever outside reason always take it out on employees for no reason hmm.gif
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CodeMasters which the gamers know ? Or Codemasters of some chinaman company which Im not aware of ?
As for FrameMotion, I believe there is quite a number of crunch time , but they seem to at least reward their team with small company trips and outings. Yea is small, but better then nothing.
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CodeMasters which the gamers know ? Or Codemasters of some chinaman company which Im not aware of ?
As for FrameMotion, I believe there is quite a number of crunch time , but they seem to at least reward their team with small company trips and outings. Yea is small, but better then nothing.
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no idea I'll ask them we I get in touch btw small trips is not worth getting scold and forced to work like dog till 1 am mad.gif small is considered nothing barely negligible vmad.gif
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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM)
no idea I'll ask them we I get in touch btw small trips is not worth getting scold and forced to work like dog till 1 am mad.gif small is considered nothing barely negligible  vmad.gif
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I dont think everybody works till 1am everyday wink.gif This is definitely an exaggeration from your friend. I know last year they were very bz, but it was just that period of weeks, after that is normal hours.
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Work culture wise, even if it is an MNC, all it takes for the company to turn into a Chinaman company is one top management person.

Except for really huge companies, most MNC's will succumb to local standards, cultures and pay grades because that may be the most sensible thing to do.

Imagine an MNC full of expats trying to do business in Malaysia. It is simply just not going to work at all.
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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Apr 29 2014, 10:55 AM)
no idea I'll ask them we I get in touch btw small trips is not worth getting scold and forced to work like dog till 1 am mad.gif small is considered nothing barely negligible  vmad.gif
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oii.. carefully with the list ha...

LOL.. because i also dunno.. so i thought: hey! name i never heard before. must be small n chinaman. just add la

LOL. im this kind of thread starter. unless im like Glassdoor, then i would do survey on their employees.. hehehe tongue.gif
Mayb i should start such Malaysian Company.
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oii.. carefully with the list ha...

LOL.. because i also dunno.. so i thought: hey! name i never heard before. must be small n chinaman. just add la

LOL. im this kind of thread starter. unless im like Glassdoor, then i would do survey on their employees.. hehehe tongue.gif
Mayb i should start such Malaysian Company.
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I can testify that the list is made from of their employees or former employees and I have friends who are/were there to testify brows.gif

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I can testify that the list is made from of their employees or former employees and I have friends who are/were there to testify brows.gif
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QUOTE(MrPoppyplants @ Apr 29 2014, 03:39 PM)
Work culture wise, even if it is an MNC, all it takes for the company to turn into a Chinaman company is one top management person.

Except for really huge companies, most MNC's will succumb to local standards, cultures and pay grades because that may be the most sensible thing to do.

Imagine an MNC full of expats trying to do business in Malaysia. It is simply just not going to work at all.
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This is kinda true. Even MNCs have to integrate some local standards to survive here. But still, better than working with them than some pure local chinapek company.
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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Apr 29 2014, 09:43 PM)
This is kinda true.  Even MNCs have to integrate some local standards to survive here.  But still, better than working with them than some pure local chinapek company.
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It's true that MNC has better system put in place. Unlike chinaman companies whereby the system is the boss himself. Means can change anytime according to his mood rclxub.gif
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It's true that MNC has better system put in place. Unlike chinaman companies whereby the system is the boss himself. Means can change anytime according to his mood rclxub.gif
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yes, true..
suka suka tukar policy..

firstmeeting say change this.. next meeting change what he changed the last meeting..
tiap tiap kali keluar memo@.@

memang suka suka ikut mood
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yes, true..
suka suka tukar policy..

firstmeeting say change this.. next meeting change what he changed the last meeting..
tiap tiap kali keluar memo@.@

memang suka suka ikut mood
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u know i normally describe this kind people as PMS..
'memang suka2 ikut mood'
hahahaa...

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u know i normally describe this kind people as PMS..
'memang suka2 ikut mood'
hahahaa...

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chinaman always PMS 24/7 despite being male brows.gif
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chinaman always PMS 24/7 despite being male  brows.gif
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hhahahaa.. yes despite being male

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I hope noone from these chinaM@n company work Yesterday labour's day. tongue.gif
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Not only they like to change the mood, but they no trust other people. That's why everything also must go through them and cannot put a good working system in place.

I think they should improve themselves by looking around the business world today. Lots of changes and nowadays people talk about engagement, not merely on management.
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I hope noone from these chinaM@n company work Yesterday labour's day. tongue.gif
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if triple pay, ok lar..
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QUOTE(Ardam @ May 2 2014, 09:42 AM)
Not only they like to change the mood, but they no trust other people. That's why everything also must go through them and cannot put a good working system in place.

I think they should improve themselves by looking around the business world today. Lots of changes and nowadays people talk about engagement, not merely on management.
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This is china manager i think. Every thing much go through them.
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here are a few more chinaman companies my friends compiled, I just help them post  brows.gif

Y.S.P. Industries
Brilliance MSC Sdn Bhd
Tong Woh Enterprise
CSC Malaysia
Unique Systems And Automation (M) Sdn Bhd
H THREE A PRINT
DKSH Corporate Shared Services
TDH Technologies
ALPHA PRECISION TURNING ENGINEERING
Ipsos
Boss Solutions Sdn Bhd
Excard Corporation
Wellmedic Healthcare
Acacia Fabrics
MAA Takaful Berhad
Herbs 'N' Food
AL-ITQAN GLOBAL SDN BHD
Maxvec
Kraiburg TPE Technology
Unifiedcomms
BPO OUTFIT
Advance Pact Sdn Bhd
Ye Chiu Metal Smelting
Ganiart sdn bhd
Enovade sdn bhd
septarian sdn bhd
Codemasters Studios
Locus-T Online
adamant system
Kim Hin Ceramic
U C MAS Education Corporation Sdn Bhd
Streamline Solutions
Prudential Services Asia
Bike Bear Sdn Bhd
ASWIG SOLUTIONS
Shimano Components
Advansoft
Foto Charlie
Ebahn Technology
GuocoLand
FrameMotion Studio
Yell Research
Willowglen MSC Berhad
dagang halal
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Wah!!! so many company with psycho bosses ar?? M'sia so pressure meh?? all boss become psycho??? Must be GST, boss all fear next year go bankrupt shocking.gif

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Wah!!! so many company with psycho bosses ar?? M'sia so pressure meh?? all boss become psycho??? Must be GST, boss all fear next year go bankrupt  shocking.gif
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these companies already psycho long before GST nod.gif plus many boss is smiling over GST 6% which replace sales tax 10% corporate sales will actually gets cheaper icon_idea.gif
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I hope noone from these chinaM@n company work Yesterday labour's day. tongue.gif
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I did.. boss says noone else working, not even himself, so have to go work.

Funny thing is I'm under "management" section, therefore do not get OT. not even allowances. Only replacement leave.
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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ May 1 2014, 06:51 PM)
chinaman always PMS 24/7 despite being male  brows.gif
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QUOTE(shinichi789 @ May 1 2014, 06:52 PM)
hhahahaa.. yes despite being male

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Haha very true laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Ardam @ May 2 2014, 09:42 AM)
think they should improve themselves by looking around the business world today. Lots of changes and nowadays people talk about engagement, not merely on management.
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Haha. I doubt that is possible. They only terrer in blaming others wrong but not admitting their own wrong. So this spiral diseases will continue over 2 our future generations. Haha. Dang. doh.gif rclxub.gif
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Add in H0T3L 3Qu@t0rI@l C0rP0r@te 0ffic3 or H0T3L 3Qu@T0rI@L M@N@G3M3NT S/b
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lol hotel equatorial bangi, that one is scammer chinaman hotel lol their restaurant no halal certificate then they keep bullshitting customer say its ok everything halal but got pig on the menu brows.gif
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lol hotel equatorial bangi, that one is scammer chinaman hotel lol their restaurant no halal certificate then they keep bullshitting customer say its ok everything halal but got pig on the menu brows.gif
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u know i normally describe this kind people as PMS..
'memang suka2 ikut mood'
hahahaa...

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Fuyoh! This is happening too overhere. Suka suka change this change that when its peak season...
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I've friend in a Malaysia home deco company called - MBS Group Home Decoration.

Their salary - below par.
Annual Leave - 8 Days before confirmation. 12 Days upon confirmation (which need 6 months).
Public holidays - Only those big holidays like CNY /Hari Raya. Those wesak day or sultan birthday still need to work.
Working ours - 830AM - 530PM (Monday - Saturday). Saturday is full day btw.

Is this able to top the list?
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QUOTE(inyourheart @ May 5 2014, 02:01 PM)
I've friend in a Malaysia home deco company called - MBS Group Home Decoration.

Their salary - below par.
Annual Leave - 8 Days before confirmation. 12 Days upon confirmation (which need 6 months).
Public holidays - Only those big holidays like CNY /Hari Raya. Those wesak day or sultan birthday still need to work.
Working ours - 830AM - 530PM (Monday - Saturday). Saturday is full day btw.

Is this able to top the list?
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Official working hours is 8 hours. But the reality is.....??? If on time, ok lar...

And how's the boss? And bonus?
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Official working hours is 8 hours.  But the reality is.....??? If on time, ok lar...

And how's the boss? And bonus?
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I know there's a law stated our maximum working hours are 48hrs a week, but there are many company tried to practice work-life balance. So clearly this company practising the most cina style by fully utilise the law. Sadly, my friend and staff always need to work extra hours (no OT) until 7PM. Boss will only say 1 thing "i didn't ask u to OT, but u just need to get it done before XXX time."

My friend got no X-mas holiday or wesak holiday or those "small" holiday. First year working only got 8Days AL is the minimum standard, and the company nailed it.

Boss wants to make the company's brand young and fun and trendy, but then everyone working like mad, all the fun also gone every time my friend think of the next day, LOL.

Bonus based on KPI, but he told me most of them only got 1 month bonus last year.

Edit: I'm a chinese myself but seriously, screw this cina mentality.

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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Apr 27 2014, 01:28 AM)
here are a few more chinaman companies my friends compiled, I just help them post  brows.gif

Y.S.P. Industries
Brilliance MSC Sdn Bhd
Tong Woh Enterprise
CSC Malaysia
Unique Systems And Automation (M) Sdn Bhd
H THREE A PRINT
DKSH Corporate Shared Services
TDH Technologies
ALPHA PRECISION TURNING ENGINEERING
Ipsos
Boss Solutions Sdn Bhd
Excard Corporation
Wellmedic Healthcare
Acacia Fabrics
MAA Takaful Berhad
Herbs 'N' Food
AL-ITQAN GLOBAL SDN BHD
Maxvec
Kraiburg TPE Technology
Unifiedcomms
BPO OUTFIT
Advance Pact Sdn Bhd
Ye Chiu Metal Smelting
Ganiart sdn bhd
Enovade sdn bhd
septarian sdn bhd
Codemasters Studios
Locus-T Online
adamant system
Kim Hin Ceramic
U C MAS Education Corporation Sdn Bhd
Streamline Solutions
Prudential Services Asia
Bike Bear Sdn Bhd
ASWIG SOLUTIONS
Shimano Components
Advansoft
Foto Charlie
Ebahn Technology
GuocoLand
FrameMotion Studio
Yell Research
Willowglen MSC Berhad
dagang halal
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Macam mana MAA TAKAFUL can be considered Chinaman company? Any particular division or company wide?

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only those who stuck in the office could understand nod.gif and their sales person who cant reach target get treated like dog shakehead.gif
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Official working hours is 8 hours.  But the reality is.....??? If on time, ok lar...

And how's the boss? And bonus?
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QUOTE(inyourheart @ May 5 2014, 03:07 PM)
I know there's a law stated our maximum working hours are 48hrs a week, but there are many company tried to practice work-life balance. So clearly this company practising the most cina style by fully utilise the law. Sadly, my friend and staff always need to work extra hours (no OT) until 7PM. Boss will only say 1 thing "i didn't ask u to OT, but u just need to get it done before XXX time."

My friend got no X-mas holiday or wesak holiday or those "small" holiday. First year working only got 8Days AL is the minimum standard, and the company nailed it.

Boss wants to make the company's brand young and fun and trendy, but then everyone working like mad, all the fun also gone every time my friend think of the next day, LOL.

Bonus based on KPI, but he told me most of them only got 1 month bonus last year.

Edit: I'm a chinese myself but seriously, screw this cina mentality.
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Haha. Malaysia ke arah foreign workers jalan soon. Dang. 90% of my school mates fled over Australia and other western countries. I tried not 2 think that's true but as time goes by, it's the reality. doh.gif I won't blame them 4 doing so. doh.gif
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Yup, working condition really terrible here. Labor law still based on 1955 enactment. And there's no interest from the government to amend. So everyone here suffer la. Or keep jumping until find a decent company.
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Yup, working condition really terrible here.  Labor law still based on 1955 enactment.  And there's no interest from the government to amend.  So everyone here suffer la.  Or keep jumping until find a decent company.
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Macam mana MAA TAKAFUL can be considered Chinaman company? Any particular division or company wide?
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1-No OT, always go back home late, weekend = RM10 per 4 hours
2-Boss can't make up his mind. First AS2, then AS3, then now HTML5 (have to revamp all work to HTML5 despite not done yet. There are hundreds and thousands of modules to be fixed). And suka-suka change template too. No time extension for those amendment/revamp/changes. Have to do unpaid OT to cover it
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4-Local = low salary, Foreigner = high salary, altho the foreigners are the one that always screw up
5-Look down on locals, badly, and worship em foreigners
6-Boss doesn't want to check the draft, want the product to be completed first, then he will decide to approve or revamp.
7-Lots and lots of amendment/revamps because boss can't make up his mind
8- 8:30 am - 6 pm, 9 1/2 hour including lunch. Yet staff always have to go back at 7-8pm
9-Insult current employee in front of the interviewee, and make fun of ex employee as well
10-Always pride themself as "MNC" company, but behave like chinaman
11-Very difficult to approve leave, even suka-suka stop people from taking leave
12-Fired people based on mood
13-The boss is a muslim boss (mamak), but everytime friday prayer he always skip and do meeting instead
14-For a company with a muslim boss, the surau never completed, yet his lvl 10 house (in the building) almost completed
15-Ask staff to wait for meeting AFTER working hour, staff wait until 9 pm, end up no meeting (always happen)
16-HR leader suka-suka scold staff, gila kuasa punya worang

Boss = gov kroni

The employees hate that place. Acting high and mighty, thinking they're a MNC-level company, when actually just another china-man mentality company. I've worked with a MNC company before, completely different level than these wanna-be

Please, if anyone see the job advertisement on L3@rn1ng P0rt, do not apply for it. Even the foreign employee hated the company. Do not believe the salary offered on the advertisement unless if you have blond hair and speaks hungarian-english. Do not torture yourself

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this is stupid .. my company blocked Jobstreet n Linked-in to avoid employees to search for jobs during worktime =.=
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LB Aluminium ?

Exhibits most of the symptoms !

Also, I realize that most chinaman companies (manufacturing at least) don't give two hoots about:

1.) Worker safety (Cost $$$$ ma !!!)
2.) Equipment maintenance and repairs (Cost $$$$ ma !!!)

Which is why Western MNCs gain an edge in terms of working environment and safety.
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this is stupid .. my company blocked Jobstreet n Linked-in to avoid employees to search for jobs during worktime =.=
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1-No OT, always go back home late, weekend = RM10 per 4 hours
2-Boss can't make up his mind. First AS2, then AS3, then now HTML5 (have to revamp all work to HTML5 despite not done yet. There are hundreds and thousands of modules to be fixed). And suka-suka change template too. No time extension for those amendment/revamp/changes. Have to do unpaid OT to cover it
3-Wrong work structure. Subject Matter Expert doing storyboard despite the fact that it is Instructional Designer's work. Storyboard mess up, Graphic Designer confused
4-Local = low salary, Foreigner = high salary, altho the foreigners are the one that always screw up
5-Look down on locals, badly, and worship em foreigners
6-Boss doesn't want to check the draft, want the product to be completed first, then he will decide to approve or revamp.
7-Lots and lots of amendment/revamps because boss can't make up his mind
8- 8:30 am - 6 pm, 9 1/2 hour including lunch. Yet staff always have to go back at 7-8pm
9-Insult current employee in front of the interviewee, and make fun of ex employee as well
10-Always pride themself as "MNC" company, but behave like chinaman
11-Very difficult to approve leave, even suka-suka stop people from taking leave
12-Fired people based on mood
13-The boss is a muslim boss (mamak), but everytime friday prayer he always skip and do meeting instead
14-For a company with a muslim boss, the surau never completed, yet his lvl 10 house (in the building) almost completed
15-Ask staff to wait for meeting AFTER working hour, staff wait until 9 pm, end up no meeting (always happen)
16-HR leader suka-suka scold staff, gila kuasa punya worang

Boss = gov kroni

The employees hate that place. Acting high and mighty, thinking they're a MNC-level company, when actually just another china-man mentality company. I've worked with a MNC company before, completely different level than these wanna-be

Please, if anyone see the job advertisement on L3@rn1ng P0rt, do not apply for it. Even the foreign employee hated the company. Do not believe the salary offered on the advertisement unless if you have blond hair and speaks hungarian-english. Do not torture yourself
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But it's a local company , how is it MNC?
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Yup, not a MNC company, but the management would like to think of the company as MNC lulz


Btw, new rules for the company for this month

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2. As soon as a module is approved modules, coordinate with *meow* for VO scripts

3. *Woof* to finish, <insert module number here> and <insert module number here> and <insert module number here> today.

4. All previous modules should be cleared by the SMEs before they start their new Outlines.

5. Working hours extended upto 8.00 P.M (For All old and New team members, team can claim subsistence for dinner, no excuses will be entertained)

6. Weekends are working days till the end of this month.

7. Bi-weekly status updates on the progress of your respective modules.

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these companies already psycho long before GST nod.gif plus many boss is smiling over GST 6% which replace sales tax 10% corporate sales will actually gets cheaper icon_idea.gif
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for ages these chinaman companies kept the country economy afloat despite gross gahmen incompetencies, rampant corruption and mismgmt,

today they are barely afloat, come GST inflation, things will turn for worst, they'll keep workers salary stagnant, those find hard to cope will F@#$@% workers until they quit.... icon_idea.gif

very soon, even gahmen sector also will join in like MAA TAKAFUL whistling.gif

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Yup, not a MNC company, but the management would like to think of the company as MNC lulz
Btw, new rules for the company for this month

1. All Modules pending approval (both Form 4 and Form 5) should be approved by 9thApril, Friday

2. As soon as a module is approved modules, coordinate with *meow* for VO scripts

3. *Woof* to finish, <insert module number here> and <insert module number here> and <insert module number here> today.

4. All previous modules should be cleared by the SMEs before they start their new Outlines.

5. Working hours extended upto 8.00 P.M (For All old and New team members, team can claim subsistence for dinner, no excuses will be entertained)

6. Weekends are working days till the end of this month.

7. Bi-weekly status updates on the progress of your respective modules.

8. Amendment GDs should try to complete production within the allocated time for their modules and clear ALL backlogs this week/weekend.

Thanks,
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Loll....just like my company 7:30 to 6. Except we got Sunday off but kena freezed all leaves. But Sunday working kambing d. Already on this for 5 months. Many people jumping every month....lel...

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this is stupid .. my company blocked Jobstreet n Linked-in to avoid employees to search for jobs during worktime =.=
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QUOTE(xgmi @ May 7 2014, 03:14 PM)
for ages these chinaman companies kept the country economy afloat despite gross gahmen incompetencies, rampant corruption and mismgmt,

today they are barely afloat, come GST inflation, things will turn for worst, they'll keep workers salary stagnant, those find hard to cope will F@#$@% workers until they quit....  icon_idea.gif

very soon, even gahmen sector also will join in like MAA TAKAFUL  whistling.gif
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really? I know a few companies who promised 2% increment when GST comes because current sales tax 10% - replaced by gst 6% = 4% lower cost so 2% company take 2% give employees nod.gif

all corporate sales kena 10% sales tax la many companies are happy gets replace with cheaper 6% gst brows.gif
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I need to add something on the company I mentioned. From what my friend told me,

1) Mileage claim as RM0.40 per KM.
2) Management strictly discourage 'love-like' relationship among staff. If found by the management then they will sack.
3) Boss suka suka then will ask for meeting. No such thing as schedule a meeting with boss.
4) Since boss is so busy, many things can only be approved when he is available, and it gives the staff a very short notice to prepare the project.
5) Bonus paid by cash.
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you are racist for creating such thread. and YES, i read all your blardy non-sense in first post. police report has been made. TQ
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i am a Chinese and where is the racist statement?
before both of you fix your english, don't come to forum please and accused ts being racist.

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really? I know a few companies who promised 2% increment when GST comes because current sales tax 10% - replaced by gst 6% = 4% lower cost so 2% company take 2% give employees nod.gif

all corporate sales kena 10% sales tax la many companies are happy gets replace with cheaper 6% gst brows.gif
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i hope my cina beng company will do this oh well 11 more months 2 wait and hope laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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you are racist for creating such thread. and YES, i read all your blardy non-sense in first post. police report has been made. TQ
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you are racist for creating such thread. and YES, i read all your blardy non-sense in first post. police report has been made. TQ
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what rasist? try implement an office snitch then you'll know how many times a day all the chinese employees curse chinaman boss's mum get struck by lightning
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what rasist? try implement an office snitch then you'll know how many times a day all the chinese employees curse chinaman boss's mum get struck by lightning
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really? I know a few companies who promised 2% increment when GST comes because current sales tax 10% - replaced by gst 6% = 4% lower cost so 2% company take 2% give employees nod.gif

all corporate sales kena 10% sales tax la many companies are happy gets replace with cheaper 6% gst brows.gif
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picture of your police report or gtfo.
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Hahaha, chinaman bosses so nice to pass the extras to employees  ohmy.gif
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nice my arse.... 2% all go to 1 person da boss while the other 2% shared by everybody else combined mad.gif
well there's 53 of us which means boss give himself 53x raise than he give everybody else vmad.gif
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nice my arse.... 2% all go to 1 person da boss while the other 2% shared by everybody else combined mad.gif
well there's 53 of us which means boss give himself 53x raise than he give everybody else vmad.gif
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FOOL!!! the boss will pass you 0% and still hike up the selling price of the service and product he's selling to the public.

You as the worker will get inflation and weaken ringgit while your salary is stagnant or worst get boss F@#@#% you intensely till you quit. brows.gif
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FOOL!!! the boss will pass you 0% and still hike up the selling price of the service and product he's selling to the public.

You as the worker will get inflation and weaken ringgit while your salary is stagnant or worst get boss F@#@#% you intensely till you quit.  brows.gif
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in your company maybe nod.gif
btw I already made it out from chinaman hellhole brows.gif
5.8k with 1 year exp ohh yeah job hopping is awesome triple salary in a year notworthy.gif

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in your company maybe nod.gif
btw I already made it out from chinaman hellhole brows.gif
5.8k with 1 year exp ohh yeah job hopping is awesome triple salary in a year notworthy.gif
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so u hop a job and u tripled yr salary?? that's awesome.. im lookin into doin so too
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I wish I can do the same but sadly all interviews I attended still cannot afford my expected salary dang doh.gif shakehead.gif
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so u hop a job and u tripled yr salary?? that's awesome.. im lookin into doin so too
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LOL. 6 hops is a lot!! haha.. got company still hire u really you must be an asset.. haha.. either that, or u know how to market yrself
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LOL. 6 hops is a lot!! haha.. got company still hire u really you must be an asset.. haha.. either that, or u know how to market yrself
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yup an underpaid asset nod.gif I jump in between industries not just companies as my degree is pretty universal and I'm niche specialize in something nobody else does brows.gif 10000 graduates and only 11 from my major notworthy.gif
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How bout we abbreviate? Let's call them CNM companies (like the opposite of MNC)...
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How bout we abbreviate? Let's call them CNM companies (like the opposite of MNC)...
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haha.. wont it be like CMC?
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The trick is to do something that you like. If you like computer, then work in computer sector. Don't go to medical field simply because it pays more. When you got squeeze by your boss to do extra hours, it'll be less strain for you if you do something that you like. In fact, it maybe more beneficial in the long run.
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The trick is to do something that you like. If you like computer, then work in computer sector. Don't go to medical field simply because it pays more. When you got squeeze by your boss to do extra hours, it'll be less strain for you if you do something that you like. In fact, it maybe more beneficial in the long run.
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sometime is not the matter whether it is passion or not

some employers are totally retarded which they treat employees as slaves.

Don't talk about bad management, they can't even handle/divide the job scope to their employees.

In the end each of them have to stay back late almost everyday.

To them like those China mindset, you need to produce until what they want, don't care if u die.

this is what i experienced from my ex-company.
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sometime is not the matter whether it is passion or not

some employers are totally retarded which they treat employees as slaves.

Don't talk about bad management, they can't even handle/divide the job scope to their employees.

In the end each of them have to stay back late almost everyday.

To them like those China mindset, you need to produce until what they want, don't care if u die.

this is what i experienced from my ex-company.
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+1

I have to agree. Same with my ex-company. Call me on Sundays afternoons Saturday nights asking questions about this that. If you no life that's your business but I do!
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L3@rn1ng P0rt Sdn Bhd
11 floor building
100++ employee
Education-based

1-No OT, always go back home late, weekend = RM10 per 4 hours
2-Boss can't make up his mind. First AS2, then AS3, then now HTML5 (have to revamp all work to HTML5 despite not done yet. There are hundreds and thousands of modules to be fixed). And suka-suka change template too. No time extension for those amendment/revamp/changes. Have to do unpaid OT to cover it
3-Wrong work structure. Subject Matter Expert doing storyboard despite the fact that it is Instructional Designer's work. Storyboard mess up, Graphic Designer confused
4-Local = low salary, Foreigner = high salary, altho the foreigners are the one that always screw up
5-Look down on locals, badly, and worship em foreigners
6-Boss doesn't want to check the draft, want the product to be completed first, then he will decide to approve or revamp.
7-Lots and lots of amendment/revamps because boss can't make up his mind
8- 8:30 am - 6 pm, 9 1/2 hour including lunch. Yet staff always have to go back at 7-8pm
9-Insult current employee in front of the interviewee, and make fun of ex employee as well
10-Always pride themself as "MNC" company, but behave like chinaman
11-Very difficult to approve leave, even suka-suka stop people from taking leave
12-Fired people based on mood
13-The boss is a muslim boss (mamak), but everytime friday prayer he always skip and do meeting instead
14-For a company with a muslim boss, the surau never completed, yet his lvl 10 house (in the building) almost completed
15-Ask staff to wait for meeting AFTER working hour, staff wait until 9 pm, end up no meeting (always happen)
16-HR leader suka-suka scold staff, gila kuasa punya worang

Boss = gov kroni

The employees hate that place. Acting high and mighty, thinking they're a MNC-level company, when actually just another china-man mentality company. I've worked with a MNC company before, completely different level than these wanna-be

Please, if anyone see the job advertisement on L3@rn1ng P0rt, do not apply for it. Even the foreign employee hated the company. Do not believe the salary offered on the advertisement unless if you have blond hair and speaks hungarian-english. Do not torture yourself
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That's 90% accurate to my company as well.. 1-9 is exactly right, also boss is gov krooni.. But I am having problem right now as they refused to pay my salary after I submitted my resign letter. Did I mention before they never pay me epf? swt ==" How ah? Now they accused me macam2, even my officemate also got dismissed cuz they said I poison him to resign. The way they treated me now is like If anything, ini semua becuz of me. Walao, I just want to quit peacefully also cannot. My company so suey la, haih..

it's already in the list btw. thanks mr poster.
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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ May 26 2014, 01:25 PM)
That's 90% accurate to my company as well.. 1-9 is exactly right, also boss is gov krooni.. But I am having problem right now as they refused to pay my salary after I submitted my resign letter. Did I mention before they never pay me epf? swt ==" How ah? Now they accused me macam2, even my officemate also got dismissed cuz they said I poison him to resign. The way they treated me now is like If anything, ini semua becuz of me. Walao, I just want to quit peacefully also cannot. My company so suey la, haih..

it's already in the list btw. thanks mr poster.
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I have to agree.  Same with my ex-company. Call me on Sundays afternoons Saturday nights asking questions about this that.  If you no life that's your business but I do!
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yeap.

they even call my team lead during her leave.

asking where is the invoice!?

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i am lucky i already out from the hell.

damn, the employers this day why getting worst?

except my current company which i m working now

so far so good.
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which company? no jokes man...
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Little bit before the middle of list.. name start with t

Today update, my officemate also told me he got same like me, not just being dismissed but also cannot get his salary.. now he dunno what to do with his last week claim.. if just rm20 don't care la, but 200 liddat if cannot claim sure panas.. probably worst chinaman company i've seen
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Little bit before the middle of list.. name start with t

Today update, my officemate also told me he got same like me, not just being dismissed but also cannot get his salary.. now he dunno what to do with his last week claim.. if just rm20 don't care la, but 200 liddat if cannot claim sure panas.. probably worst chinaman company i've seen
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How bout we abbreviate? Let's call them CNM companies (like the opposite of MNC)...
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QUOTE(badkid @ May 25 2014, 07:44 PM)
haha.. wont it be like CMC?
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadersh...ulture-problem/

10 Signs That A Campany Has A Serious Culture Problem.

angmoh pun ada masalah ni.. haha

guys, i'll update the list later when i hav more time yah
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I have
My friends all say I should just file a report
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Notbad la but the director kiamsiap level:-
- no pen cannot change new pen ( stationary). Blue change blue, red change red.. cannot change red pen with blue pen.
- toilet paper .. bring ur own if possible
- MC use panel( bring chip). no panel can claim RM10 nia ( u see panel witout chip also RM10 nia)
- MC kena potong allowance
- Air cond selalu rosak.. no buy new air cond but keep on repairing..
- lunch 45min
- Director bring her house maid to become cleaner at company
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QUOTE(Hao Ren @ Jun 5 2014, 12:15 PM)
I have
My friends all say I should just file a report
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mayb can pay a visit at malaysia labor department.
Bring ur employment letter, salary slip...
If i remember correctly, is at jalan duta
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ May 26 2014, 11:06 AM)
is singaporean bank can be catogories as Chinaman? i know one tht start to squeese My counterpart..badly...
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Simple,
To let people know the background of a company before they join.
And Not to ask people not to join.
It's to let them have a prepared mentality of roughly what they would face in their coming job.
That is the purpose
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wait, do u mean local cainis also including or ....?
hong leong is local cainis company what
chinaman already buy it ?
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wait,  do u mean local cainis also including or ....?
hong leong is local cainis company what
chinaman already buy it ?
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Hong Leong... I am their customer before also find them China-man.
I dont even want to work / go there.

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"CHINAMAN COMPANY"

Definition:
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Known for:

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Not every company has all characteristics as above, but, enough of the above to be identified as one.

Myths:
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Benefits:
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NOW here comes the naughty part:  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
LIST of known or speculated to be "Chinaman Companies"
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Help me List somemore, I will update, here. If you dare la ! That is. Pm and me or just comment tongue.gif I do believe there will be a lot. Since... it's Malaysia tongue.gif

Actually, "Chinaman Company" are not all together as bad as pictures painted them to be. You can learn and grow along with these companies. You come outmore experienced and more valued. And really, at the end of the day, it depends on where you ends up, and how you carry yourself. It's your own mentality and spirits that makes you successful in your own way.

The purpose of this thread is for jobseekers to know which and what kind of company are there interviewing for. And, have a mentality prepared for it. Anyway, if you're looking for jobs, 'Beggers can't be Choosers' right?

If you're the bosses who read this, sorry la.. hehe  brows.gif You are boss anyway, shouldnt be bothered too much by these right? There is no such thing as bad publicity, only publicity

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Yeah man. I'm an @sshOle  whistling.gif  just a pussey keyboard nazi.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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this company izit YTLPOWR listing in bursa
i earn some money b4 from this counter
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QUOTE(KoChun @ Jun 5 2014, 04:00 PM)
Hong Leong... I am their customer before also find them China-man.
I dont even want to work / go there.
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i heard so much complain about this company
my friend also work in this company
but in my town their survice now is better than Public Bank
PB now so slow

can u pls talk what u feel about hong leong
i hate their ATM machine alway put at outside the bank
complain for so long but they still do nothing
but im not their worker
anyway their ebroking is easy to use
i earn a lot money from it
their charging is better than public
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QUOTE(KoChun @ Jun 5 2014, 04:00 PM)
Hong Leong... I am their customer before also find them China-man.
I dont even want to work / go there.
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in my town mostly i just walk in 3 bank
BSN just only to take pencen, i wont save money in it, their counter are so slow, same like maybank
Public just use to pay my Great Eastern insurance
Hong Leong bcos i using their ebroking to invest in stock market, when i withdraw money must goto their ATM to take money
thats all
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QUOTE(modeler @ Jun 5 2014, 04:20 PM)
in my town mostly i just walk in 3 bank
BSN just only to take pencen,  i wont save money in it,  their counter are so slow,  same like maybank
Public just use to pay my Great Eastern insurance
Hong Leong bcos i using their ebroking to invest in stock market, when i withdraw money must goto their ATM to take money
thats all
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I still have BSN account. I used to work for China-man company open to get salary.

Sorry to hear your PB so slow. In KL. PB counter service is one of the fastest.
But PB can be very Chinaman - you go youtube see how they celebrate.

My HLB exp was not good. Get spam calls alot, I close a/c they deduct until few cents.
But if it works for you then good for you.

So got any good stock tips? smile.gif
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HL last time i hate them to the max.. withdraw money need to pay RM0.50, even deposit money also need pay RM0.50 if using book account.. last time before merging with EON their ATM are sucks and dont have deposit machine..

not to mention their branch ( smaller branch) dont even have chairs for customer to sit and wait. we need to line up ( yes no number, just lining up)

somehow after merging with EON, their service updgrade.. current most of my loan account are with HL ( basically is with EON, they take over so is with them lo)
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QUOTE(KoChun @ Jun 5 2014, 04:27 PM)
I still have BSN account. I used to work for China-man company open to get salary.

Sorry to hear your PB so slow. In KL. PB counter service is one of the fastest.
But PB can be very Chinaman - you go youtube see how they celebrate.

My HLB exp was not good. Get spam calls alot, I close a/c they deduct until few cents.
But if it works for you then good for you.

So got any good stock tips? smile.gif
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yup, PB last time at my area also was the best survice
just get the number, mostly around few minutes already my turn
but now..... sad.gif

something forget to tell
i invest some money in PB fund
so last time i walkin PB their worker alway give me good survice
such like family
now i already more focus in stock

if u also invest in stock
u can focus MAS
last month i earn 1000 when something bad news for MAS
that time i remember MAS from 0.21 drop to 0.155
i buy it so second day already up to 0.165
i sell it faster and earn 1000

sorry, here is not stock forum
izit got stock forum at lowyat
im still so new here
cannot find it
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QUOTE(yahiko @ Jun 5 2014, 04:38 PM)
HL last time i hate them to the max.. withdraw money need to pay RM0.50, even deposit money also need pay RM0.50 if using book account.. last time before merging with EON their ATM are sucks  and dont have deposit machine..

not to mention their branch ( smaller branch) dont even have chairs for customer to sit and wait. we need to line up ( yes no number, just lining up)

somehow after merging with EON, their service updgrade.. current most of my loan account are with HL ( basically is with EON, they take over so is with them lo)
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I understand how you feel.
Last time pass already.
I hope you will let go of the hate,

so that you will enjoy life more smile.gif
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I still have BSN account. I used to work for China-man company open to get salary.

Sorry to hear your PB so slow. In KL. PB counter service is one of the fastest.
But PB can be very Chinaman - you go youtube see how they celebrate.

My HLB exp was not good. Get spam calls alot, I close a/c they deduct until few cents.
But if it works for you then good for you.

So got any good stock tips? smile.gif
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BSN is no problem for me bcos i just goto their ATM to press money, that is my father pencen
i wonder why ur china-man company pay u at BSN
can u pls tell me what company ?
mostly a lot company like to choose maybank to pay worker salary
such like my last company


BSN..... remember pls dont goto their counter around 21 to 25 every month
bcos government pay their staff salary at 21
including pencen
bcos my father is government staff b4 so i know it
it must so bz around the date
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BSN is no problem for me bcos i just goto their ATM to press money,  that is my father pencen
i wonder why ur china-man company pay u at BSN
can u pls tell me what company ?
mostly a lot company like to choose maybank to pay worker salary
such like my last company
BSN.....  remember pls dont goto their counter around 21 to 25 every month
bcos government pay their staff salary at 21
including pencen
bcos my father is government staff b4 so i know it
it must so bz around the date
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Perfect Food Manufacturing Julie's biscuit.
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They don't give any benefits at all. However, I will leave office sharp and they block all the internet access. I am not able to extend my brain juice
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Perfect Food Manufacturing Julie's biscuit.
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what .... Julie biscuit also china-man buy it already ?
i love their chocolate orange waffle so long b4
that time i study in college
when i hungry i ate it
but so long not eat it already
izit still have this waffle
may be someday i wanna taste it again
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what .... Julie biscuit also china-man buy it already ?
i love their chocolate orange waffle so long b4
that time i study in college
when i hungry i ate it
but so long not eat it already
izit still have this waffle
may be someday i wanna taste it again
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Choc + orange = weird for me. biggrin.gif LOL
Actually Julie's best for Peanut Butter Sandwich biscuit.

Butter waffle now so sweet.
The love letter wafer rolls, still got but
you have to buy the big tin not box.
and now veli expesive. wait CNY.

If anything you PM me.
We lari topic already after mod mad.gif

Gud luk
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QUOTE(KoChun @ Jun 5 2014, 05:01 PM)
Choc + orange = weird for me. biggrin.gif LOL
Actually Julie's best for Peanut Butter Sandwich biscuit.

Butter waffle now so sweet.
The love letter wafer rolls, still got but
you have to buy the big tin not box.
and now veli expesive. wait CNY.

If anything you PM me.
We lari topic already after mod  mad.gif

Gud luk
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tell me when china buy julie ?
if no mistake at the year 90 still local cainis own izit

i love orange taste
just wanna taste it to bring me back memory smile.gif
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QUOTE(modeler @ Jun 5 2014, 05:18 PM)
tell me when china buy julie ?
if no mistake at the year 90 still local cainis own izit

i love orange taste
just wanna taste it to bring me back memory  smile.gif
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Its not PRC buy Julies

Chinaman company = a type of management style.
Simply explain, boss say = law.

No right, no wrong. Boss = God, Boss word = law
Then always kena politik and unfair treatment.
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Its not PRC buy Julies

Chinaman company = a type of management style.
Simply explain, boss say = law.

No right, no wrong. Boss = God, Boss word = law
Then always kena politik and unfair treatment.
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oic, whats wrong about it
every race company confirm use to their own culture
how come indian company cannot celebrate deepavali and want to push them follow whiteman style
if not happy can goto find job at own race company
such like malay can goto GLC
a lot job at GLC
want to pray 5 times also more easy
and free from pork DNA
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QUOTE(KoChun @ Jun 5 2014, 05:01 PM)
Choc + orange = weird for me. biggrin.gif LOL
Actually Julie's best for Peanut Butter Sandwich biscuit.

Butter waffle now so sweet.
The love letter wafer rolls, still got but
you have to buy the big tin not box.
and now veli expesive. wait CNY.

If anything you PM me.
We lari topic already after mod  mad.gif

Gud luk
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guy, i already found stock forum at lowyat
here
https://forum.lowyat.net/StockExchange
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So. Can I safely say that Mr jellyfish already kolos this thread after he had found his destiny locations already? laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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So. Can I safely say that Mr jellyfish already kolos this thread after he had found his destiny locations already? laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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what destiny location.... still many more chinaman companies to be reported and boycotted vmad.gif
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my previous company:-

3ngKah 3ntersuprise rolleyes.gif
location: penang

Notbad la but the director kiamsiap level:-
- no pen cannot change new pen ( stationary). Blue change blue, red change red.. cannot change red pen with blue pen.
- toilet paper .. bring ur own if possible
- MC use panel( bring chip). no panel can claim RM10 nia ( u see panel witout chip also RM10 nia)
- MC kena potong allowance
- Air cond selalu rosak.. no buy new air cond but keep on repairing..
- lunch 45min
- Director bring her house maid to become cleaner at company
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This is chapalang company. Stingy to the max rclxub.gif
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what destiny location.... still many more chinaman companies to be reported and boycotted vmad.gif
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Haha. Good luck in that.
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issue faced during my tenure with this company:

- AL application. Face black2 when apply for AL (be it long or short). Always ask employee clear 50% of AL by mid-year, but always reject AL application, & at year-end AL burnt

- Working hour 8.30am - 5.30pm. Punch card after 8.40am deduct RM5, after 9.40am RM10, after 10.40am deduct half day AL (I was late only once during my 1 year tenure due to car tyre punctured, reached office 8.41am. They did not accept my explanation and deducted RM5)

- Lack of sympathy. A colleague was robbed & suffered broken bones on 2 fingers. Hence, doctor gave 2 weeks MC. Reaction from management when she called in for MC "Only 2 of your finger is broken, other parts still functioning. Why MC for 2 weeks?" and even threaten to issue warning letter.

- Favoritism. Boss's niece was allowed to punch in/out as she desires, but other employee/non-relative will be scrutinized on punctuality.

- Policies change as and when desired. Personnel, positions & policies were amended/created over-night to adhere to bidding requirement.

- When employee resigns, try to deduct as much as possible (eg. medical check-up, training). Until employee have to argue and show offer letter that this was not stated, then only management take away the deduction.

These are few happened during my 1 year tenure. so, beware if you are invited for interview/hiring by this company. who knows, you migh b the management's favorite new-hire & won't face all these issues.
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List updated. Thanks for all contributions.
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what destiny location.... still many more chinaman companies to be reported and boycotted vmad.gif
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Hahaha !!! Sounds like vigilante la !!
haha.. jadi Batman macam..
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QUOTE(modeler @ Jun 5 2014, 03:44 PM)
wait,  do u mean local cainis also including or ....?
hong leong is local cainis company what
chinaman already buy it ?
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Haha.. modeler.. i dun mean they are taken, or own over buy china people..
what chinaman means is the lou sai, taukeyy, boss manage their employees like pharaohs managing slaves. thats why lou sai can be angmoh also, even japanese, but manage employees like slaves..
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Haha.. modeler.. i dun mean they are taken, or own over buy china people..
what chinaman means is the lou sai, taukeyy, boss manage their employees like pharaohs managing slaves. thats why lou sai can be angmoh also, even japanese, but manage employees like slaves..
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if feel suffer no need working la
goyang kaki at home or can follow our mat rempit


actually thats not a good idea whole life be employee
but if wanna do business pls off into direct sales
unless really got confidence
within 3 month already get good income just can say has the potential


nothing is easy
wanna be bos or to be worker
all got own difficulties
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QUOTE(showcase @ Jun 9 2014, 03:33 PM)
company name:
s0£idgr0 3n3rgy / g30premium / c0l0r 0c3an 3n3rgy ltd

issue faced during my tenure with this company:

- AL application. Face black2 when apply for AL (be it long or short). Always ask employee clear 50% of AL by mid-year, but always reject AL application, & at year-end AL burnt

- Working hour 8.30am - 5.30pm. Punch card after 8.40am deduct RM5, after 9.40am RM10, after 10.40am deduct half day AL (I was late only once during my 1 year tenure due to car tyre punctured, reached office 8.41am. They did not accept my explanation and deducted RM5)

- Lack of sympathy. A colleague was robbed & suffered broken bones on 2 fingers. Hence, doctor gave 2 weeks MC. Reaction from management when she called in for MC "Only 2 of your finger is broken, other parts still functioning. Why MC for 2 weeks?" and even threaten to issue warning letter.

- Favoritism. Boss's niece was allowed to punch in/out as she desires, but other employee/non-relative will be scrutinized on punctuality.

- Policies change as and when desired. Personnel, positions & policies were amended/created over-night to adhere to bidding requirement.

- When employee resigns, try to deduct as much as possible (eg. medical check-up, training). Until employee have to argue and show offer letter that this was not stated, then only management take away the deduction.

These are few happened during my 1 year tenure. so, beware if you are invited for interview/hiring by this company. who knows, you migh b the management's favorite new-hire & won't face all these issues.
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This is the worst Chinaman Co. Thanks for sharing.
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there are also from outside, name is a mnc status. but managed with chinaman style with senior management team made up of chinamen.
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exactly.. that what i said also. MNC also got chinaman one.. especially japanese MNC. watch out for those.
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Boss kedekut, awal awal pagi dah turunkan kelajuan kipa & shuh aircon.. huhuhu >.<
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Baker Hughes Wireline only

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QUOTE(badkid @ Jun 11 2014, 09:54 AM)
exactly.. that what i said also. MNC also got chinaman one.. especially japanese MNC. watch out for those.
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some japanese MNC are nicer than local chinaman
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Baker Hughes Wireline only
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Meaning? dont get u
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Meaning? dont get u
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Baker Hughes Inc. (Malaysia) Very good.
Baker Hughes Inc. (Malaysia) Wireline PSL, terrible, but I heard they are improving, last time sad.gif

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Baker Hughes Inc. (Malaysia) Very good.
Baker Hughes Inc. (Malaysia) Wireline PSL, terrible, but I heard they are improving, last time  sad.gif
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Haha.. mayb wireline accidentally ter-hired a local company punya boss as managing direcktor.. hahaha..
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A MNC with chinaman style: m3mc 3l3ctr0n1c mat3rial5

-no proper job description and training, throw you into the production line and expect you to learn from senior engineer. No clear career path.

-new employees have no annual leave in first year..i am not kidding...so use medical leave if have issues

-high turnove rrate,mhad 4 Managers , and three young engineer quit when i was there.

-measurement tools are old, example density meter use this beaker and a glass ball, proposed a new density meter and got whacked for showing intiiative. Management think they are the best if they cut cost and keepmusing old stuff.

-production line have no ventilations, just to save cost, many suffer respiratory problem,when audit time comes, they turn it on. Alotnof shameful cover up before audits, projects that are delayed were 'approved as completed'

- HR manager also finance manager is a super ungracious china lady, gave warning letter to an engineer who just gave birth and had to take emergency leave because her baby is sick.

-when new director comes in, he bring his cronies and his own proxy company an dtry to have the plant source spare parts through his crony company. The company tried to sell a tool to my area that is three times the cost of that from a nother supplier.

-GM is a biology graduate, a favourite of the director, naik pangkat from supervisor, has no idea what the plant is doing, he reads the charts prepared by the industrial engineer during meeting.attack other people to show he is smart...send unncessary emails to 'all users' just to show he work but alwayh go on a holiday or sick leave...like to delegate to the non HOD managers.

-promotion to senior engineer or senior psoitions is base on office politics....talk alot do nothing style.

-rampant facebook spying

-a place for makan gaji only, very few skills development other than surviving the office politics, but if economy down kene vss for young engineers to keep the old ones, so after 2 years left to continue studies.

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Baker Hughes Inc. (Malaysia) Wireline PSL, terrible, but I heard they are improving, last time  sad.gif
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A MNC with chinaman style: m3mc 3l3ctr0n1c mat3rial5

-no proper job description and training, throw you into the production line and expect you to learn from senior engineer. No clear career path.

-new employees have no annual leave in first year..i am not kidding...so use medical leave if have issues

-high turnove rrate,mhad 4 Managers , and three young engineer quit when i was there.

-measurement tools are old, example density meter use this beaker and a glass ball, proposed a new density meter and got whacked for showing intiiative. Management think they are the best if they cut cost and keepmusing old stuff.

-production line have no ventilations, just to save cost, many suffer respiratory problem,when audit time comes, they turn it on. Alotnof shameful cover up before audits, projects that are delayed were 'approved as completed'

- HR manager also finance manager is a super ungracious china  lady, gave warning letter to an engineer who just gave birth and had to take emergency leave because her baby is sick.

-when new director comes in, he bring his cronies and his own proxy company an dtry to have the plant source spare parts through his crony company. The company tried to sell a tool to my area that is three times the cost of that from a nother supplier.

-GM is a biology graduate, a favourite of the director, naik pangkat from supervisor,  has no idea what the plant is doing, he reads the charts prepared by the industrial engineer during meeting.attack other people to show he is smart...send unncessary emails to 'all users' just to show he work but alwayh go on a holiday or sick leave...like to delegate to the non HOD managers.

-promotion to senior engineer or senior psoitions is base on office politics....talk alot do nothing style.

-rampant facebook spying

-a place for makan gaji only, very few skills development other than surviving the office politics, but if economy down kene vss for young engineers to keep the old ones, so after 2 years left to continue studies.
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whoa... new employee no annual leave.. its so weird the company still arund.. noone go bring the company to labour law? haha.. mayb a lot people didnt realise their labour rights..
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didnt really go to the interview tho.
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D: How's ur car? Repaired
A: Not yet. Workshop said need 3 days to repair.
D: Why so long?
A: Overhaul everything need wait paint to kering. So i think I will take 3 days of my annual leave, they expiring soon.
D: What for take leaves? Just ask your colleage to send u to workshop and back. You set up ur appointments well. That time u dont hav car, ask ur colleague to bring u go to meet ur clients.

Guess which is the director, which is executive? This really happened. I overheard near the lift.
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whoa... new employee no annual leave.. its so weird the company still arund.. noone go bring the company to labour law? haha.. mayb a lot people didnt realise their labour rights..
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Or because the case will pending 2 long like the altantunya case. So they don't bother 2 file lawsuits as need 2 many procedures and save the hassle. laugh.gif rclxms.gif

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a taiwanese company which almost fit all requirements...

extra info:
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- didn't pay office rental and internet up to 3 mths
- even pay slip also can delayed up to 2-3 mths, ( cited no ink and paper ) wtf !!! shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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This is chapalang company. Stingy to the max rclxub.gif
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I personally worked with Chinaman company small or listed and even MNC before.

You can't compared Chinaman Benefits to a INternational MNC, simply because the Organisation value, profit margin and expectation of job performance .

I seen fresh graduate jumped from Chinaman to MNC for better wages & benefits but can't cope with the job expectation and pressure- go back to Chinaman comp for easier life.

MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
your job performance review every 3 months
Expect you to contribute more and a lot of processes
In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman - pay can be slightly lower. Benefits a lots lower
Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
Expectation - as long as you do your parts. Of course some requires multi tasking.
In short, less structure. Provide more room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
Promotion chances - easier if you are a talent.

Good luck. Don't blame the company, keep learning and network for better opportunity.
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QUOTE(GraduateDev @ Jun 29 2014, 01:02 PM)
I personally worked with Chinaman company small or listed and even MNC before.

You can't compared Chinaman Benefits to a INternational MNC, simply because the Organisation value, profit margin and expectation of job performance .

I seen fresh graduate jumped from Chinaman to MNC for better wages & benefits but can't cope with the job expectation and pressure- go back to Chinaman comp for easier life.

MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
              your job performance review every 3 months
              Expect you to contribute more and a lot of processes
              In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman -  pay can be slightly lower. Benefits a lots lower
                  Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
                  Expectation - as long as you do your parts. Of course some requires multi tasking.
                  In short, less structure.  Provide more room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
                  Promotion chances - easier if you are a talent.

Good luck. Don't blame the company, keep learning and network for better opportunity.
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there corrected


MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
your job performance review every 6 months
Expect you to contribute less and extra work is compensated
In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman - pay can be significantly lower. Benefits a lots lower
Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
Expectation - boss snap finger work done dont care you 3 days no sleep. Requires intense multi tasking.
In short, simple structure. No room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
Promotion chances - easier if you are a relative.
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Huawei was my first job and also my first chinaman company...really super high workload when got new projects

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A MNC with chinaman style: m3mc 3l3ctr0n1c mat3rial5

-no proper job description and training, throw you into the production line and expect you to learn from senior engineer. No clear career path.

-new employees have no annual leave in first year..i am not kidding...so use medical leave if have issues

-high turnove rrate,mhad 4 Managers , and three young engineer quit when i was there.

-measurement tools are old, example density meter use this beaker and a glass ball, proposed a new density meter and got whacked for showing intiiative. Management think they are the best if they cut cost and keepmusing old stuff.

-production line have no ventilations, just to save cost, many suffer respiratory problem,when audit time comes, they turn it on. Alotnof shameful cover up before audits, projects that are delayed were 'approved as completed'

- HR manager also finance manager is a super ungracious china  lady, gave warning letter to an engineer who just gave birth and had to take emergency leave because her baby is sick.

-when new director comes in, he bring his cronies and his own proxy company an dtry to have the plant source spare parts through his crony company. The company tried to sell a tool to my area that is three times the cost of that from a nother supplier.

-GM is a biology graduate, a favourite of the director, naik pangkat from supervisor,  has no idea what the plant is doing, he reads the charts prepared by the industrial engineer during meeting.attack other people to show he is smart...send unncessary emails to 'all users' just to show he work but alwayh go on a holiday or sick leave...like to delegate to the non HOD managers.

-promotion to senior engineer or senior psoitions is base on office politics....talk alot do nothing style.

-rampant facebook spying

-a place for makan gaji only, very few skills development other than surviving the office politics, but if economy down kene vss for young engineers to keep the old ones, so after 2 years left to continue studies.
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Ipoh or KL plant? visited the KL plant before lol. Now no more with this company tongue.gif

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there corrected
MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
              your job performance review every 6 months
              Expect you to contribute less and extra work is compensated
              In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman -  pay can be significantly lower. Benefits a lots lower
                  Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
                  Expectation - boss snap finger work done dont care you 3 days no sleep. Requires intense multi tasking.
                  In short, simple structure.  No room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
                  Promotion chances - easier if you are a relative.
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There are many types of MNC and many different type of chinaman companies.

I agree that some of the small chinaman companies, such as car workshop may fit into your description....

But not all chinaman companies function it that way especially the big listed chinaman company.
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Jun 30 2014, 11:09 PM)
There are many types of MNC and many different type of chinaman companies.

I agree that some of the small chinaman companies, such as car workshop may fit into your description....

But not all chinaman companies function it that way especially the big listed chinaman company.
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i got a friend who instantly start out as a manager in one of berjaya group subsidiary(better left unnamed) without any tertiary education just because the aunt is a senior manager there..... doh.gif
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to me chinaman company is when the big boss over rule the smaller boss bcos he want it to go his way and only his way.

I would say almost all chinese company is like this, the big boss adopt a more hands on approach instead of sitting back and letting his kuli do the work

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Haha. I like my cina apek company right until today. Suddenly company refuse 2 trust employee that is me running errands due 2 over paranoid that later employee that is myself will go snaking around shopping centre after finish work laugh.gif doh.gif 2 make matters worse I was forced 2 fill up that form every single day doh.gif shakehead.gif I will add company name after I put down resign letter and left 4 good hahahaha and I won't do so I am very honest professional

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Haha. I like my cina apek company right until today. Suddenly company refuse 2 trust employee that is me running errands due 2 over paranoid that later employee that is myself will go snaking around shopping centre after finish work laugh.gif doh.gif 2 make matters worse I was forced 2 fill up that form every single day doh.gif shakehead.gif I will add company name after I put down resign letter and left 4 good hahahaha and I won't do so I am very honest professional
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hahaha.. sounds exactly like my company.
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How about fusionex???i heard a lot bad rumors about them too @@
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terrible director.

suggest avoid in all cost to work there
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My boss racist. He said somthing aboout those Bangla & Indian foreign workers. If dun mix with them nevermind la, but bad mouth them.
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yay FINALLY i put resign letter already after 1 year 9 months of misery and suffering and sleepless agony rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif so the mystery company that i had been hiding out 4 dam long time is *dumdumdumdumdum*

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- massively underpaid staffs
- massively high turnover (5 staffs per month leaving)
- 6 months probation period
- small 1 month bonus every 2 years
- maximum of RM500 fixed allowance per month with no milelage claim at all
- need 2 go up KL from JB 3 times per month in odd hours using own car (12 am starting trip)...sometimes need 2 go up twice a week
- can only claim petrol and tol after outstation...wear and tear not covered
- any HR staff that need 2 work outside office will be targeted 2 get rung by cina apek HR manager every 30 minutes being so afraid and so insecure thinking they will shopping happily during work hours
- ridiculous additional workload from opening 2 much restaurant outlet with no pay increase (got some staff break down because of that already)
- small increment and can get only after 2 years of working
- no appreciation at all by bosses when staff found effective ways in solving problems
- food quality has dropped tremendously due 2 overdependent with foreign workers and cost cutting

I SNAPPED IN FURY AND THEN I RESIGNED 4 GOOD

all the pain has disappeared fast after the letter approved

that is my story on the worst chinaman company yet doh.gif shakehead.gif

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yay FINALLY i put resign letter already after 1 year 9 months of misery and suffering and sleepless agony rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif so the mystery company that i had been hiding out 4 dam long time is *dumdumdumdumdum*

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- massively underpaid staffs
- massively high turnover (5 staffs per month leaving)
- 6 months probation period
- small 1 month bonus every 2 years
- maximum of RM500 fixed allowance per month with no milelage claim at all
- need 2 go up KL from JB 3 times per month in odd hours using own car (12 am starting trip)...sometimes need 2 go up twice a week
- can only claim petrol and tol after outstation...wear and tear not covered
- any HR staff that need 2 work outside office will be targeted 2 get rung by cina apek HR manager every 30 minutes being so afraid and so insecure thinking they will shopping happily during work hours
- ridiculous additional workload from opening 2 much restaurant outlet with no pay increase (got some staff break down because of that already)
- small increment and can get only after 2 years of working
- no appreciation at all by bosses when staff found effective ways in solving problems
- food quality has dropped tremendously due 2 overdependent with foreign workers and cost cutting

I SNAPPED IN FURY AND THEN I RESIGNED 4 GOOD

all the pain has disappeared fast after the letter approved

that is my story on the worst chinaman company yet doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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Gratz! We all been there working for sipek terror cinapek. Great you stand up on your own and show them that a company is a relationship between employer and employee, not a slave driver who thinks paying people means owning them body and soul 24/7. Ask them go fly kite!
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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Aug 5 2014, 08:02 PM)
Gratz! We all been there working for sipek terror cinapek. Great you stand up on your own and show them that a company is a relationship between employer and employee, not a slave driver who thinks paying people means owning them body and soul 24/7. Ask them go fly kite!
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How about DeGem? Someone said that this is a chinaman family biz company.....Any ideas??
If yes, I better don't think coz from what I experienced chinaman family biz is the worst company to work...
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Chinaman companies in Industry Automation area:

H@m@ch Engineering Sdn Bhd
S@m@tion Sdn Bhd
SS-T@ch Engineering Sdn Bhd (currently under Ex@ct @ut@m@tion)

Those are the companies that who can survive will learn a lot of skills (to become one-man-show style).

Currently work in Singapore Chinaman company also with better pay. Fortunately not in project department where the employees treated with chinaman style.

For those who wish to learn/develop Industry Automation skills (plc programming, panel wiring, field instrumentation...), can join these companies.

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1) Open Rice
2) Mudah.com.my
3) P1 Wimax
4) Bio-Life
5) Country Farms
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Can't agree more with with top 1. Mgt is old fashioned,appreciate finger pointing,saving ass and open scolding culture.
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Haha. You remind me of my friend in this company where the boss keep fighting with the HR people when workers cannot arrived yet. When asked 2 go putrajaya himself, he refused straight away. Sore loser boss thinks the labour supply can fall from the sky easily. laugh.gif doh.gif
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Can't agree more with with top 1. Mgt is old fashioned,appreciate finger pointing,saving ass and open scolding culture.
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Treat employees like naughty kids. This is absurd. doh.gif shakehead.gif
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ahaha! @skylinelover is more acive than me !

I'll update the list pretty soon enough.
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ahaha! @skylinelover is more acive than me !

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Kolej 1slam Sains dan T3knologi, Kelantan.
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East coast based nursing college, with more than 20 subsidiaries to support main business.


salary : rm1500 for fresh grad lecturer to teach their students. Reputation not paying salary for almost 6 month (2013).

absurb contract. Each staff given 1 year contract, cannot be cancelled. If staff choose to resign, they have to pay 6 month salary for breaching the contract.

sympathy/empathy: my mum passed away last year, the boss not even comne visit me. sad.gif

Intern : sad.gif in order to save cost, the managemnt recruit practical student from local universities as many as possible as intern.

In department of 6, half of them are Intern. Intern enjoys no allowance nor benefits.

www.taufiking.com/2013/12/kolej-islam-sains-dan-teknologi-kist.html



please avoid this company at all cost.

-Intern 2012.

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yay FINALLY i put resign letter already after 1 year 9 months of misery and suffering and sleepless agony rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif so the mystery company that i had been hiding out 4 dam long time is *dumdumdumdumdum*

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


- massively underpaid staffs
- massively high turnover (5 staffs per month leaving)
- 6 months probation period
- small 1 month bonus every 2 years
- maximum of RM500 fixed allowance per month with no milelage claim at all
- need 2 go up KL from JB 3 times per month in odd hours using own car (12 am starting trip)...sometimes need 2 go up twice a week
- can only claim petrol and tol after outstation...wear and tear not covered
- any HR staff that need 2 work outside office will be targeted 2 get rung by cina apek HR manager every 30 minutes being so afraid and so insecure thinking they will shopping happily during work hours
- ridiculous additional workload from opening 2 much restaurant outlet with no pay increase (got some staff break down because of that already)
- small increment and can get only after 2 years of working
- no appreciation at all by bosses when staff found effective ways in solving problems
- food quality has dropped tremendously due 2 overdependent with foreign workers and cost cutting

I SNAPPED IN FURY AND THEN I RESIGNED 4 GOOD

all the pain has disappeared fast after the letter approved

that is my story on the worst chinaman company yet doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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So what have you gained from this job for 1 year 9 months besides being massively underpaid?
Are you able to articulate what you have gained from this job to your new employers?
If not, I'm afraid you will jump from one massively underpaid company to another not so massive but still substantially underpaid company
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My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.

6) When get MC from other than panel clinic, he won't approve it.

7) Send me to training, for 5 days, all of the hotel, mileage, food, etc. cannot be claim, all by my own. Before training, promise to cover all expenses.

8) No insurance, or any other benefit except the panel clinic. One of my colleague accident with 15% burn, He just get the socso. His hospital bill is by himself.

9) Racist - Get mad when people going out to perform Jumaat prayer. He said "Who pay your salary? your GOD ah?" (Please suggest to me, what I need to do with him)

No more CHINAMAN company in my life
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K1ST Group Holdings Bhd.
Kolej 1slam Sains dan T3knologi, Kelantan.
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East coast based nursing college, with more than 20 subsidiaries to support main business.
salary : rm1500 for fresh grad lecturer to teach their students. Reputation not paying salary for almost 6 month (2013).

absurb contract. Each staff given 1 year contract, cannot be cancelled. If staff choose to resign, they have to pay 6 month salary for breaching the contract.

sympathy/empathy: my mum passed away last year, the boss not even comne visit me.  sad.gif

Intern :  sad.gif in order to save cost, the managemnt recruit practical student from local universities as many as possible as intern.

In department of 6, half of them are Intern. Intern enjoys no allowance nor benefits.

www.taufiking.com/2013/12/kolej-islam-sains-dan-teknologi-kist.html
please avoid this company at all cost.

-Intern 2012.
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salary : rm1500 for fresh grad lecturer to teach their students. Reputation not paying salary for almost 6 month (2013).

Red light to the MAX. Will check for all the employment on this term...
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Source: worked there as a sales rep for a couple of months before cabuting for industrial training organised by my uni. A crappy place to work, Dunno how some people can tahan working there for decades or life. This company sells an accounting software to SMEs called 3A. During sales meeting, sure kena bombarded like hell as the MD would compare your sales revenue with others.

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My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.

6) When get MC from other than panel clinic, he won't approve it.

7) Send me to training, for 5 days, all of the hotel, mileage, food, etc. cannot be claim, all by my own. Before training, promise to cover all expenses.

8) No insurance, or any other benefit except the panel clinic. One of my colleague accident with 15% burn, He just get the socso. His hospital bill is by himself.

9) Racist - Get mad when people going out to perform Jumaat prayer. He said "Who pay your salary? your GOD ah?" (Please suggest to me, what I need to do with him)

No more CHINAMAN company in my life
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i'm working in a chinaman company. Gosh, i can't even chat with my colleagues that's sitting nearby me. Today my manager scolded me & asked me not to talk so much. She said that we chat from the morning until afternoon. It's like wth, am i kids?

You know the problem with my company is my manager stingy like hell. She is not even the boss in the first place. I simply don't understand why she helped our boss to save so much.
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my fren work in a french based o&g company..he said french people always look down on us malaysian..told him to do job but when he asked about the details got scolded..but the pay quite good just need to be mentally strong
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my fren work in a french based o&g company..he said french people always look down on us malaysian..told him to do job but when he asked about the details got scolded..but the pay quite good just need to be mentally strong
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At least, the pay is quite good. Chinaman company?

1. Pay like hell (peanut that burn in hell)
2. Job description/satisfaction like shit (give you a small knife then ask you to take down all the tree in the forest within an hour)
3. Always look down on you (curse you all the time)
4. Ask you to stay till night, no OT, replacement leave (expect to love the company more than your life and family)
5. And many more... (ur brain will jam if you stay longer in chinaman company and may result serious brain damage)

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i think some CHINAMAN company is bad.not all of them. sometimes it depend on the boss not the owner. the boss will berlagak lebih than owner..( correct me if im wrong)

im ex -division manager in chinaman company. the GM in that company bring a CHINAMAN attitude.
i worked almost 13 hrs per day.no OT.feel like no life. then i cabut lor.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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i worked almost 13 hrs per day.no OT.feel like no life. then i cabut lor.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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4 me 1 year i also cabut already laugh.gif doh.gif i dont know what 2 say but 2 salute you 4 continuously going through that suffering 4 more than 12 years cool2.gif cool.gif
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how about shin yang. heard alot about them.
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QUOTE(bjornrockefellar @ Aug 25 2014, 11:55 AM)
My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.

6) When get MC from other than panel clinic, he won't approve it.

7) Send me to training, for 5 days, all of the hotel, mileage, food, etc. cannot be claim, all by my own. Before training, promise to cover all expenses.

8) No insurance, or any other benefit except the panel clinic. One of my colleague accident with 15% burn, He just get the socso. His hospital bill is by himself.

9) Racist - Get mad when people going out to perform Jumaat prayer. He said "Who pay your salary? your GOD ah?" (Please suggest to me, what I need to do with him)

No more CHINAMAN company in my life
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QUOTE(bjornrockefellar @ Aug 25 2014, 11:55 AM)
My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.

6) When get MC from other than panel clinic, he won't approve it.

7) Send me to training, for 5 days, all of the hotel, mileage, food, etc. cannot be claim, all by my own. Before training, promise to cover all expenses.

8) No insurance, or any other benefit except the panel clinic. One of my colleague accident with 15% burn, He just get the socso. His hospital bill is by himself.

9) Racist - Get mad when people going out to perform Jumaat prayer. He said "Who pay your salary? your GOD ah?" (Please suggest to me, what I need to do with him)

No more CHINAMAN company in my life
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Ppl like to abuse the 9th thing. When i did a short stint in malaysia, i made sure by making all the supervisors accountable for their underlings by setting a strict time table. If they promise me that they will only take 2 hours to both have lunch and pray. Then they have abide by the promise which they made to me.
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This company I'm working in now is stalking my family, bf and my private life. It's making me paranoid...I confirmed that the company is hiring people to stalk me...What should I do? It's violating my privacy....Should I leave the company ?

Btw this is chinaman, family business company. Am working under the boss's daughter age 25/26, the age where the mind is still in the lala land. Always complain, lazy and gossips....

A very good example of working with a chinaman family business....
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BTW you guy or girl? If guy then maybe the your lady boss interested in you that is why stalking you. I have heard a cases like this before.
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QUOTE(nimoy @ Sep 3 2014, 11:32 AM)
BTW you guy or girl? If guy then maybe the your lady boss interested in you that is why stalking you. I have heard a cases like this before.
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she already mentioned 'BF'. LOL unless a gay
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as a purchasing for 1 month.
my education background, Bachelor of Science, degree holder, first class honour.
In 2008, media says fresh grads difficult get a job. So that time i fresh grad, just grab whenever job i had been offered.
"i give you RM1800, i cant offer you rm2000 because you have no experience" D*mn! What kind of exp you need to do in purchasing?

Take one day unpaid leave go for another company for interview, blame me stupid for trusting my colleague back then.
"please help me take care the orders make, i need to take UPl for my personal" I said. "You have any emergency?" my colleague said.
"no la.. just go for try my luck".

Then next day, i got discipline action, with verbal warning only. Call me discuss privately in a room.
Investigate me, question me, like I am betraying them for looking another job. D*mn.
Question my work slow, I had to push and call supplier to get those raw material. Is just like today received order, tomorrow must arrive. the most expanded time line is 3 days.

then after 3 weeks working, I confirm and get other offer, i tender letter. I have to serve 1 week notice.
the chinawoman said " haiya... you say early mar if not interested! you waste my time to train you all those things."

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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Jun 30 2014, 07:56 AM)
there corrected
MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
              your job performance review every 6 months
              Expect you to contribute less and extra work is compensated
              In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman -  pay can be significantly lower. Benefits a lots lower
                  Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
                  Expectation - boss snap finger work done dont care you 3 days no sleep. Requires intense multi tasking.
                  In short, simple structure.  No room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
                  Promotion chances - easier if you are a relative.
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she already mentioned 'BF'. LOL unless a gay
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Sorry didn't read it properly. Rephrased to "interested in your BF". BTW there is also the possibility that the lady boss is a les.
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Sorry didn't read it properly. Rephrased to "interested in your BF". BTW there is also the possibility that the lady boss is a les.
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Another company to be added in:

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Location: Bandar Sunway

- Working day and night as IT vendor. Attach to few project per person. But if thing coming in, boss say he want. So u need to adhoc your task.
- Last time, basic salary small, but give commission monthly. Now give basic a bit big. But still below market
- Travel here and there, RM0.26/KM for mileage inside KL. Outside, RM0.19/KM
- Day allowance if outstation: RM18. If USD, then convertlah yourself. Must still maintain RM18
- Medical: RM40. More than that, your own expenses
- Bill telephone: please highlight your bill for office number and staff only. No lumpsum bill or fix allowance. As IT support engineer, yeah.
- They just abolish saturday working (if you guys interested), before this, saturday half day working
- Of course no OT if you need to stayback for further system testing or project support.
- One time, I kena scold on the email because late for 10 minutes. He never see, my punch out was 9-10pm.
- CNY holiday, boss will open office according to his fengshui. For additional day after CNY holiday need to take "compulsory leave". Yeah, it'll minus your annual leave
- AL, 14 days per year. Need to take evenly throughout year. Cannot bundle suka suka take straight.

I forgot edi further thing. Will update if i remember thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Another company to be added in:

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Location: Bandar Sunway

- Working day and night as IT vendor. Attach to few project per person. But if thing coming in, boss say he want. So u need to adhoc your task.
- Last time, basic salary small, but give commission monthly. Now give basic a bit big. But still below market
- Travel here and there, RM0.26/KM for mileage inside KL. Outside, RM0.19/KM
- Day allowance if outstation: RM18. If USD, then convertlah yourself. Must still maintain RM18
- Medical: RM40. More than that, your own expenses
- Bill telephone: please highlight your bill for office number and staff only. No lumpsum bill or fix allowance. As IT support engineer, yeah.
- They just abolish saturday working (if you guys interested), before this, saturday half day working
- Of course no OT if you need to stayback for further system testing or project support.
- One time, I kena scold on the email because late for 10 minutes. He never see, my punch out was 9-10pm.
- CNY holiday, boss will open office according to his fengshui. For additional day after CNY holiday need to take "compulsory leave". Yeah, it'll minus your annual leave
- AL, 14 days per year. Need to take evenly throughout year. Cannot bundle suka suka take straight.

I forgot edi further thing. Will update if i remember  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(bjornrockefellar @ Aug 25 2014, 11:55 AM)
My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.

6) When get MC from other than panel clinic, he won't approve it.

7) Send me to training, for 5 days, all of the hotel, mileage, food, etc. cannot be claim, all by my own. Before training, promise to cover all expenses.

8) No insurance, or any other benefit except the panel clinic. One of my colleague accident with 15% burn, He just get the socso. His hospital bill is by himself.

9) Racist - Get mad when people going out to perform Jumaat prayer. He said "Who pay your salary? your GOD ah?" (Please suggest to me, what I need to do with him)

No more CHINAMAN company in my life
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Finally got the time to update the list..been busy.. sorry guys :3
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ESC4T3C. Don't be fooled by it's European footprint. This is a true local company (they are proud to brand themselves as Malaysian). The angmo boss started it in malaysia and later expanded back to his home country. The angmo learn his management skill locally and this is a true CMC (china man company) in every sense.
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my company kinda the same as well. the director or manager will ask u whether u hav gf or not.. or the managers themselvesstart spread rumors around office that u are going out with one colleague from the office..

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here it goes... 2007 punya cerita but still crystal clear to me

Q3S Gr0uP of Companies (Taipan USJ)
- china man in every way
- luckily my manager was good, we left together so covered a bit
- mileage claim RM 0.34/km
- hotel share with colleague (max RM120 per night)
- CNY come, no bonus, no increment (that's 2007)... director all change new car!!!
- give ang pow RM10
- flight: budget, no taxi. Bus only

N Gr0up (also 2007) (Megan Avenue 2)
- china man in every way
- late 1 min, cut gaji... OT no pay. mad.gif
- contract 9-5 but all stay till 7/8 but yeap 1 min late, kira
- go home on time, kena sound
- no smoke, no break... so smoke lo
- tele marketing firm, no 5 appointments in a day. Cant go out. Even if 4 (a lot of ppl cheat)
- moving around (no mileage claim, already included in Gaji)
- sales meeting at 8pm on Friday. Why? Cos 9-5 is "productive" time to make money so cannot meeting
- every friday go back no earlier than 10pm cos "sales Meeting" vmad.gif
- Saturday work half day (don't know for what, everyone seems to tapau breakfast and eat in office only)
- no one can speak proper english, at that time 50 staff only. Heard now its way more
- big boss Mr L1m told me, "I know we are chinaman comp. But no choice. We need to make money now. Then will move gradually to Corporate approach once get bigger"

Any updates? i'm glad to hear it

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This is shit.....
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WTPR N3TW0RK SDN BHD

Sometimes late salary, give cheque on 7th that means we only get the money on 10th. one time he give the cheque after 7th, said no money la, blah, blah, blah, but buy new iphone for himself. Promise the employees incentive but LATE payment for 2-3 months. vmad.gif

There is one time he pay us late, reason (excuse) is because i calculate the salary wrongly. So why is it the same amount when i receive the cheque? doh.gif

No OT on normal days, have to stay late once a month for packing stuff. Saturday half day but no need to come office if no event. OT on Sunday, Saturday half day OT only as Saturday is a "working day". so that's how he save on the OT money.

No EPF on 1st 3 months probation. (Don't get cheated, you're entitled to it. I got mine by suing him after resignation). This company has a really bad reputation of EPF contribution. A lot of ex employees sued him. He did not give me EPF for the last 3 months of working. Before decided to sue him, i give him face because i still have good terms with him after resignation. Asked him, he said he will pay, next time he said he paid. He thinks everyone is stupid, dunno how to check, thank goodness i have e akaun so i know he's lying. mad.gif Checked with EPF officer, no name on the EPF list for Oct-Dec contribution. Okay, sue!!!

Boss is super stingy. Outstation event on Saturday & Sunday, but boss only book hotel for saturday & sunday night. We have to drive at 4am from KL. Sometimes book only 1 night, straight go home after event. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

Like to do things by emotion. Suka suka can treat the employees (rare case), suka suka say no money, all expenses by yourself. Angpau given $100 by 2nd boss, not boss himself. (so lucky that he has a good bro/friend) i heard from his bro that it was supposed to be given by the boss himself, amount should be $300.

Become his bro even worse, sometimes he will give their salary late... how late, i dunno. As i was in charge of the payslips, he gave all the salary cheques so i know. The cheques are sometimes $500 less. He immediately told me that he gave the money to his bros on advance, which i do not believe. They are not big spenders like him.

Ask the staffs to wash toilet, said everyone use the toilet so should wash. I don't mind if everyone washes it but no... Most people doesn't wash it. Worst part, he like to specify girls should wash the toilet... WHAT???!!! because of this statement, i never wash the toilet.

Not trust his employees, like to think we like to create politics and stuff. Asked him about EPF contribution he became furious. blink.gif Then at my last month of working we supposed to go universal studio (own expense) as a team building thingy (sort of). But i refuse to go because i don't have money. Salary not paid yet, yes, it was late. Some also follow suit because of same reason. He accused me saying that i ruin the harmony of the team. Purposely asked others not to go Universal Studio. shocking.gif shakehead.gif Well, it's not my problem that no one wants to go. We need to pay the ticket by OURSELVES, remember? I said no, but lazy to clarify to him further as i'm already looking for new jobs.

Always pay his suppliers late. I have to create stories why we pay later. So fed up of receiving those calls. Buy a luxury car, Jaguar with company name but always pay late.

Didn't like when you leave on time because he reach office on 3pm. Things gotten worse after his girlfriend & new partner worked here. The partner dislikes us, always show his bossy attitude. Only 21 years old already so bossy, rich kid... haih... Girlfriend comes to office after lunch, so i need to handle her work when she's not in office. Lazy, didn't give us payslips unless we request. Why you need payslip ah? so we have to make up story, apply credit card or so to get the payslips. Sometimes have to deal with her emotional stuff...

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Sometimes late salary, give cheque on 7th that means we only get the money on 10th. one time he give the cheque after 7th, said no money la, blah, blah, blah, but buy new iphone for himself. Promise the employees incentive but LATE payment for 2-3 months.  vmad.gif

There is one time he pay us late, reason (excuse) is because i calculate the salary wrongly. So why is it the same amount when i receive the cheque?  doh.gif

No OT on normal days, have to stay late once a month for packing stuff. Saturday half day but no need to come office if no event. OT on Sunday, Saturday half day OT only as Saturday is a "working day". so that's how he save on the OT money.

No EPF on 1st 3 months probation. (Don't get cheated, you're entitled to it. I got mine by suing him after resignation). This company has a really bad reputation of EPF contribution. A lot of ex employees sued him. He did not give me EPF for the last 3 months of working. Before decided to sue him, i give him face because i still have good terms with him after resignation. Asked him, he said he will pay, next time he said he paid. He thinks everyone is stupid, dunno how to check, thank goodness i have e akaun so i know he's lying.  mad.gif Checked with EPF officer, no name on the EPF list for Oct-Dec contribution. Okay, sue!!!

Boss is super stingy. Outstation event on Saturday & Sunday, but boss only book hotel for saturday & sunday night. We have to drive at 4am from KL. Sometimes book only 1 night, straight go home after event. vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

Like to do things by emotion. Suka suka can treat the employees (rare case), suka suka say no money, all expenses by yourself. Angpau given $100 by 2nd boss, not boss himself. (so lucky that he has a good bro/friend) i heard from his bro that it was supposed to be given by the boss himself, amount should be $300.

Become his bro even worse, sometimes he will give their salary late... how late, i dunno. As i was in charge of the payslips, he gave all the salary cheques so i know. The cheques are sometimes $500 less. He immediately told me that he gave the money to his bros on advance, which i do not believe. They are not big spenders like him.

Ask the staffs to wash toilet, said everyone use the toilet so should wash. I don't mind if everyone washes it but no... Most people doesn't wash it. Worst part, he like to specify girls should wash the toilet... WHAT???!!! because of this statement, i never wash the toilet.

Not trust his employees, like to think we like to create politics and stuff. Asked him about EPF contribution he became furious.  blink.gif Then at my last month of working we supposed to go universal studio (own expense) as a team building thingy (sort of). But i refuse to go because i don't have money. Salary not paid yet, yes, it was late. Some also follow suit because of same reason. He accused me saying that i ruin the harmony of the team. Purposely asked others not to go Universal Studio. shocking.gif  shakehead.gif Well, it's not my problem that no one wants to go.  We need to pay the ticket by OURSELVES, remember? I said no, but lazy to clarify to him further as i'm already looking for new jobs.

Always pay his suppliers late. I have to create stories why we pay later. So fed up of receiving those calls. Buy a luxury car, Jaguar with company name but always pay late.

Didn't like when you leave on time because he reach office on 3pm. Things gotten worse after his girlfriend & new partner worked here. The partner dislikes us, always show his bossy attitude. Only 21 years old already so bossy, rich kid... haih... Girlfriend comes to office after lunch, so i need to handle her work when she's not in office. Lazy, didn't give us payslips unless we request. Why you need payslip ah? so we have to make up story, apply credit card or so to get the payslips. Sometimes have to deal with her emotional stuff...
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I'm gonna escape my current company real real soon wink.gif
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actually i quite enjoy the company at the 1st few months, before the partner & gf came in. but the biggest problem about the boss is not trusting the employees & i'm annoyed with his sexism comments too. At first i got his trust, but as time goes by, (i think also influenced by partner & gf, now wife) he dislikes me more and more. I have no idea what people like to talk behind my back on their smoking sessions. (i don't smoke) Although he lied to me about the EPF, I don't have personal hate towards him. But i did what i should do, which is get back what i should, so i decided to sue him. Then he unfriended me on facebook. oh well...

when there are employees questioned about not getting EPF, i was the one who told them it's fine, they will be paid later. When ex employees flame rumours, i was the one who persuaded them that those are just rumours only. So it was really hurt when he said i ruin the harmony of the team... Seriously?

i don't think he values the employees as much as he should. He doesn't trust people. Maybe because of his past experience of bad employees, which flame many rumours about the company. Very sad, because the newer ones are good nature and if he put some effort, he can train them into great people. Now, all the employees left, except 1. I don't know how he will handle the job as the others are bosses in the company. oh well...

anyway, i'm so over it now. smile.gif
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Wow all those batchelor no need work for ppl la. So many money to study with better edu better open own company or make your own money. Study so high and work for ppl for wat?? Kinda iritaing when ppl post high cert but still like just that i mean....duhhh....I have a fren very smart taken master in australia in chemical engineering but then in malaysia hard to find this position so he open supermarket and now become supermarket boss in a small town. Then he tanam sawit and become sawit boss...hahaha. This is true story. Why cant ppl have this mentality and I agree with forumer "robertchoo" get experience and after take all supplier/vendor contact and lasted the spanking and abuse of chinaman related company. Just open your own company be your own boss and feel what your current boss is feeling....hahaha
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QUOTE(stephen.alvin @ Sep 24 2014, 01:21 PM)
Wow all those batchelor no need work for ppl la. So many money to study with better edu better open own company or make your own money. Study so high and work for ppl for wat?? Kinda iritaing when ppl post high cert but still like just that i mean....duhhh....I have a fren very smart taken master in australia in chemical engineering but then in malaysia hard to find this position so he open supermarket and now become supermarket boss in a small town. Then he tanam sawit and become sawit boss...hahaha. This is true story. Why cant ppl have this mentality and I agree with forumer "robertchoo" get experience and after take all supplier/vendor  contact and lasted the spanking and abuse of chinaman related company. Just open your own company be your own boss and feel what your current boss is feeling....hahaha
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If you open a company just because you have money then you will crash and burn. We need to have experience in operating a business 1st. To gain that experience, we need to work for others 1st, unless your father is a businessman, different story. In order get a job, that degree cert does matter. Back to square one. laugh.gif
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Yes!! that is what my sarcasm is about. I do not spout it openly im just give some fruit on thought but u my man are very bold & fearless just as your name stated. Anyway even if your father is a business man it doesn't mean that u should waste your father money to open a business and then flop right?...hahaha. Survey & Survey look for ppl interest and look at your interest. Hopefully you've got what it takes to provide ppl with what they want & u are very deep in love on doing it.(Passion)
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true, but if your father is a businessman, he's able to give you some guide wink.gif
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With 6 working days per week, I'm pretty surprise that the famous resort at the hill-top is not listed...........

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With 6 working days per week, I'm pretty surprise that the famous resort at the hill-top is not listed...........
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Oooo... it's not in the list yet.... Sorry, I didn't check the list... laugh.gif 6 working days? i used to work for them (KL office) as my 1st job, mine is only 5 days. But salary wise & other stuff, yes, it's chinaman style. Back then i just finished my diploma, haven't got the physical cert yet, only have transcipt. The manager treat it as SPM holder, give me only RM1100. cry.gif less RM200 than others. (year 2008)

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Oooo... it's not in the list yet.... Sorry, I didn't check the list... laugh.gif  6 working days? i used to work for them (KL office) as my 1st job, mine is only 5 days. But salary wise & other stuff, yes, it's chinaman style. Back then i just finished my diploma, haven't got the physical cert yet, only have transcipt. The manager treat it as SPM holder, give me only RM1100. cry.gif less RM200 than others. (year 2008)
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5 days for employees at KL......
Employees at hill-top get to 'enjoy' 6 days (continuously working for 24 days then only can take 4 days off) ......
some more, it's shift work.........
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I'm in one "chinaman" company. lol. They suck every energy you have, make you work more than the average, pay you less than the average.

Syok! best part where am I, in Aus lol.
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Bumping by 2 fire up my head 2 more hate with apek companies laugh.gif doh.gif

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You just described my job and boss to a T. *crawls into a corner to cry*
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Anyone in 5outh3rn p1p3 1ndustry?? its a H0ng l30ng GR0up company. Is it a bad chinaman company?

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Yes it is a chinaman company. They are very good in speculating and accusing even you are not.  Chinaman style.
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5 days for employees at KL......
Employees at hill-top get to 'enjoy' 6 days (continuously working for 24 days then only can take 4 days off) ......
some more, it's shift work.........
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sorry its 7 days for hill top.. meaning u work everyday as if you have no life but for certain department like HR its 5 days.. nod.gif

there are office work too.. shift work are for operations ; croupiers, cashiers etc

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(A battery brand that starts with G) @sia. An IT outsourcing company that is based in Subang Jaya. My experience with this company? I was involved in providing onsite services for Dell Malaysia through another vendor that deals with ATM machines(the one that got hacked recently). At first, I enjoyed my work until they ask me to travel places which is located outside KL like Bestari Jaya, Sepang and Sekinchan .I can only claim RM 0.50/km btw. The bosses are not flexible when it comes to choose where to go even though I have to use my mother's old car to travel. If they ask you to go to outstation locations, you have no choice and you can't say no. I have been forced to travel to Sarawak because my other colleague who was supposed to go has a baby to take care. So, I went anyway just to gain some experience. Air ticket is provided but for accommodation I have to fork out my own money and claim later. I stayed in Sarawak for three days, hoping after that I can come back to KL, but I was wrong! They asked me to go to Sabah as well. I told them that I ran out of clothes to wear since I only brought three days worth of clothing. But the management said that I can ask the laundry services at the hotel to wash my clothes. Reluctantly, I went to Kota Kinabalu and once I landed at the airport, I took the first cab to reach the customer's site at a shopping center. After completing my first task, I went to my second location which is situated nearby. I searched in circles for the location based on the information given on my BlackBerry but I couldn't find it. Tried calling the customer but no one is picking up. Actually, Dell did not provide the name of the company, so it was very hard to find. cry.gif Then, I called my call center in Singapore to inform about the problem and we had a conference call with Dell over the phone. It was already 7pm and I haven't had my dinner. To my surprise, Dell told me that it was actually Public Bank and I was fuming because the bank is already closed at 5.30pm mad.gif If Dell had informed me earlier that it was Public Bank, I wouldn't have to run like a mad man searching for the location for 2 hours! vmad.gif vmad.gif

I had enough of that crap. At the same day, I lost my phone in a taxi cry.gif and I have to fork out RM 112 just to stay at Tune Hotel for one night. The next day, I told my boss that I need to come back because my mother wasn't feeling well. So, I came back and I was happy.The next day, I travelled to Sungai Buloh to replace a client's laptop screen and I got a call to go to Kuantan. WTF? I told them that I can't go by giving them some excuses. They said I can travel by bus but I said I want to travel by plane. They said it is not possible and I said I will not go unless you give me a flight to go there. They were angry and they ask me whether I wanted to work or quit. I said I quit and they told me to tender my resignation immediately. So, I went to the office in Subang Jaya and surrendered the company's Blackberry as well as my Dell tag. The sad part is since I was tied to a bond for 1 year with the company, all my claims and 3 months salary will be offsetted to cover the training costs. Even though I did not receive my salary, at least I am glad that I am out of this hell. rclxms.gif

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(A battery brand that starts with G) @sia. An IT outsourcing company that is based in Subang Jaya. My experience with this company? I was involved in providing onsite services for Dell Malaysia through another  vendor that deals with ATM machines(the one that got hacked recently). At first, I enjoyed my work until they ask me to travel places which is located outside KL like Bestari Jaya, Sepang and Sekinchan .I can only claim RM 0.50/km btw. The bosses are not flexible when it comes to choose where to go even though I have to use my mother's old car to travel. If they ask you to go to outstation locations, you have no choice and you can't say no. I have been forced to travel to  Sarawak because my other colleague  who was supposed to go has a baby to take care. So, I went anyway just to gain some experience. Air ticket is provided but for accommodation I have to fork out my own money and claim later. I stayed in Sarawak for three days, hoping after that I can come back to KL, but I was wrong! They asked me to go to Sabah as well. I told them that I ran out of clothes to wear since I only brought three days worth of clothing. But the management said that I can ask the laundry services at the hotel to wash my clothes. Reluctantly, I went to Kota Kinabalu and once I landed at the airport, I took the first cab to reach the customer's site at a shopping center. After completing my first task, I went to my second location which is situated nearby. I searched in circles for the location based on the information given on my BlackBerry but I couldn't find it. Tried calling the customer but no one is picking up. Actually, Dell did not provide the name of the company, so it was very hard to find.  cry.gif Then, I called my call center in Singapore to inform about the problem and we had a conference call with Dell over  the phone. It was already 7pm and I haven't had my  dinner. To my surprise, Dell told me that it was actually Public Bank and I was fuming because the bank is already closed at 5.30pm mad.gif If Dell had informed me earlier that it was Public Bank, I wouldn't have to run like a mad man searching for the location for 2 hours! vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I had enough of that crap. At the same day, I lost my phone in a taxi cry.gif  and I have to fork out RM 112 just to stay at Tune Hotel for one night. The next day, I told my boss that I need to come back because my mother wasn't feeling well. So, I came back and I was happy.The next day, I travelled to Sungai Buloh to replace a client's laptop screen and I got a call to go to Kuantan. WTF? I told them that I can't go by giving them some excuses. They said I can travel by bus but I said I want to travel by plane. They said it is not possible and I said I will not go unless you give me a flight to go there. They were angry and they ask me whether I wanted to work or quit. I said I quit and they told me to tender my resignation immediately. So, I went to the office in Subang Jaya and surrendered the company's Blackberry as well as my Dell tag. The sad part is since I was tied to a bond for 1 year with the company, all my claims and  3 months salary will be offsetted to cover the training costs. Even though I did not receive my salary, at least I am glad that I am out of this hell. rclxms.gif
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Sometimes, we need a place to vent. This is one of it. Haha
Good job to you, finally taking that big step out of that pithole.

I was in a chinaman company, when in job interview, they asked about your relationship of you with your girlfriend.
Good thing i left it last month and join better company.
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Oct 5 2014, 02:12 PM)
sorry its 7 days for hill top.. meaning u work everyday as if you have no life but for certain department like HR its 5 days.. nod.gif

there are office work too.. shift work are for operations ; croupiers, cashiers etc
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At least shift work just require one to work at odd hours......
But, if you are in IT or engineering there, you need to standby or on-call after office hours, that's without any pay.......
And, the percentage of you getting call after office hours is almost 100%.........meaning that you need to wake up then attend to incidents..........
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QUOTE(danny_rocker @ Oct 5 2014, 10:35 PM)
(A battery brand that starts with G) @sia. An IT outsourcing company that is based in Subang Jaya. My experience with this company? I was involved in providing onsite services for Dell Malaysia through another  vendor that deals with ATM machines(the one that got hacked recently). At first, I enjoyed my work until they ask me to travel places which is located outside KL like Bestari Jaya, Sepang and Sekinchan .I can only claim RM 0.50/km btw. The bosses are not flexible when it comes to choose where to go even though I have to use my mother's old car to travel. If they ask you to go to outstation locations, you have no choice and you can't say no. I have been forced to travel to  Sarawak because my other colleague  who was supposed to go has a baby to take care. So, I went anyway just to gain some experience. Air ticket is provided but for accommodation I have to fork out my own money and claim later. I stayed in Sarawak for three days, hoping after that I can come back to KL, but I was wrong! They asked me to go to Sabah as well. I told them that I ran out of clothes to wear since I only brought three days worth of clothing. But the management said that I can ask the laundry services at the hotel to wash my clothes. Reluctantly, I went to Kota Kinabalu and once I landed at the airport, I took the first cab to reach the customer's site at a shopping center. After completing my first task, I went to my second location which is situated nearby. I searched in circles for the location based on the information given on my BlackBerry but I couldn't find it. Tried calling the customer but no one is picking up. Actually, Dell did not provide the name of the company, so it was very hard to find.  cry.gif Then, I called my call center in Singapore to inform about the problem and we had a conference call with Dell over  the phone. It was already 7pm and I haven't had my  dinner. To my surprise, Dell told me that it was actually Public Bank and I was fuming because the bank is already closed at 5.30pm mad.gif If Dell had informed me earlier that it was Public Bank, I wouldn't have to run like a mad man searching for the location for 2 hours! vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I had enough of that crap. At the same day, I lost my phone in a taxi cry.gif  and I have to fork out RM 112 just to stay at Tune Hotel for one night. The next day, I told my boss that I need to come back because my mother wasn't feeling well. So, I came back and I was happy.The next day, I travelled to Sungai Buloh to replace a client's laptop screen and I got a call to go to Kuantan. WTF? I told them that I can't go by giving them some excuses. They said I can travel by bus but I said I want to travel by plane. They said it is not possible and I said I will not go unless you give me a flight to go there. They were angry and they ask me whether I wanted to work or quit. I said I quit and they told me to tender my resignation immediately. So, I went to the office in Subang Jaya and surrendered the company's Blackberry as well as my Dell tag. The sad part is since I was tied to a bond for 1 year with the company, all my claims and  3 months salary will be offsetted to cover the training costs. Even though I did not receive my salary, at least I am glad that I am out of this hell. rclxms.gif
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maybe should have asked them to fire u. means the bond null, and they have to pay u 3 months salary in lieu of notice.
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maybe should have asked them to fire u. means the bond null, and they have to pay u 3 months salary in lieu of notice.
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You may be right but it depends on the situation. In my situation, I did not want to accept outstation calls and they were not happy about it. I was issued a first warning letter because of this and I quit because they will keep assigning me more outstation clients.
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Please add: NEP Holdings Berhad (Diamond water filter)
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done.

and Bump.. i just updated a couple in the list..

Everymonth i get news that my o chinaman company hired people.. kinda feel sorry for those young fresh grads.. kesian x dapat warning.
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Ts, thanks for adding my cina pek company... tongue.gif i saw some freshies working there now, wish they read this forum.

I think you left out Uncle Lim's company brows.gif

i also want to add another, @don1s, i got the details through someone working there. 6 days work, low salary. During CNY they close doors for around 1 week but give unpaid leaves.

another 1 is a japan facial company, got japanese staff there... 1st 3 months NO pay slip, NO EPF, Socso.
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reading the posts here... i felt like my cina pek co is not the worst... but still...

part 2 of cina pek co. : WTPR N3TW0RK SDN BHD

believe it or not, sometimes i had to pick up shit... physical shit

we are allowed to bring pets to the company as long as they behave. (pet related co so it's allowed). anyway, there's a colleague of mine has a dog that does not behave well. Pee & poop as it likes. mad.gif If dunno how to behave don't bring here lah... but she said if leave at apartment it will bark until neighbours complain... She works as a salesperson so most of the time not at office. So guess who have to pick up the shits? Sometimes the owner will say sorry & paiseh, but still... sweat.gif haih...

Worst thing is boss also likes to call me to pick up shits cause i'm a dog person... (so therefore not afraid to pick up shit? what logic is this? vmad.gif ) I never bring this topic up, just patiently clean the mess.

not respecting other religion
most of the staffs are non muslims, but sometimes got 1-2 are muslims. Normally we will find halal food, but sometimes they (boss & partner) secretly complain of not able to eat non halal food. brows.gif One day, we went to a mall for lunch, where there are manay halal choices but the partner said want to eat wong kok shocking.gif doh.gif we said cannot, non halal, then he answered, what? got halal mah... got chicken, got fish... doh.gif at last we settle for nandos but we can clearly see his attitude.

went outstation for events, sometimes just settle for chinese food because cannot find mamak. When eat mamak, my boss purposely said: see, we eat mamak because of YOU. my muslim colleague was angry when the boss said that.

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reading the posts here... i felt like my cina pek co is not the worst... but still...

part 2 of cina pek co. : WTPR N3TW0RK SDN BHD

believe it or not, sometimes i had to pick up shit... physical shit

we are allowed to bring pets to the company as long as they behave. (pet related co so it's allowed). anyway, there's a colleague of mine has a dog that does not behave well. Pee & poop as it likes.  mad.gif If dunno how to behave don't bring here lah... but she said if leave at apartment it will bark until neighbours complain... She works as a salesperson so most of the time not at office. So guess who have to pick up the shits? Sometimes the owner will say sorry & paiseh, but still... sweat.gif haih...

Worst thing is boss also likes to call me to pick up shits cause i'm a dog person... (so therefore not afraid to pick up shit? what logic is this? vmad.gif ) I never bring this topic up, just patiently clean the mess.

not respecting other religion
most of the staffs are non muslims, but sometimes got 1-2 are muslims. Normally we will find halal food, but sometimes they (boss & partner) secretly complain of not able to eat non halal food. brows.gif One day, we went to a mall for lunch, where there are manay halal choices but the partner said want to eat wong kok shocking.gif  doh.gif we said cannot, non halal, then he answered, what? got halal mah... got chicken, got fish... doh.gif at last we settle for nandos but we can clearly see his attitude.

went outstation for events, sometimes just settle for chinese food because cannot find mamak. When eat mamak, my boss purposely said: see, we eat mamak because of YOU. my muslim colleague was angry when the boss said that.
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What a stupid boss. He should not hire muslim if he wanna eat pork all the time if u guys having dinner outside. I mean, if u wanna hire muslim or hindus, respect their religion la. Do not insult them. Other time also can eat pork ma. No need to say we eat mamak because of you. Why hire muslim at the first place if he wanna eat pork when having dinner with staff.
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How about Teledirect Telecommerce? Founder is a French guy but management style is chinaman to the max(most of the management team are Chinese especially the Team Leader, Project Manager and Project Director ). Salary wise sucks because you need to work for commissions. If you don't make any sales, they will scream at you like a pontianak. Must work on Saturdays even though it is stated in the offer letter that we need to come only on alternate Saturdays.I used to work there in 2008 but I don't know whether the management style is still the same?

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Ts, thanks for adding my cina pek company... tongue.gif i saw some freshies working there now, wish they read this forum.

I think you left out Uncle Lim's company  brows.gif

i also want to add another, @don1s, i got the details through someone working there. 6 days work, low salary. During CNY they close doors for around 1 week but give unpaid leaves.

another 1 is a japan facial company, got japanese staff there... 1st 3 months NO pay slip, NO EPF, Socso.
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My worst experience:

1) Management promise to give replacement leave when I need to cover people during CNY holiday since all the bosses apply for leave like shit, 10 - 15 days (AL just only 14 days), so after I calculate my replacement leave, I'm able to have replacement leave for 10 days. When need to apply, the boss said "Haiyaaa..with company also want to berkira ka? I give you 2 days leave only" (deduct from my AL)

2) My wife give birth to my child, ask for AL for it, what came out from his mouth "Your wife give birth, then why you need to apply for leave?" No humanity sense. F*ck him. Then I said to him, "You think my wife can drive to home by herself lah?? ". He replied " That's not my problem" F*ck him again.

3) Came to work, only play with his hand phone, sleep, just sit down in the office, 12 o'clock in the afternoon, came into plant, doing survey, watching us having our lunch break, then start to yell at us "Hoiiii !! what are u all doing? Makan ular ka?? " F*ck him again

4) Came to work, tak mandi, when he speak to me, owh that smell, u'r smell like hell dude. Even worst when he mabuk the night before it. The alcohol smell. And yeah, F*ck him again.

5) When top management came, acting like he doing all the job in the company.
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I m workin at one of cinaman co for 2months now. In puchong. Suck ur energy kaw2.. During iv, manager said ot is up to u. They not force u to ot.. After u work, they said must ot. Saturday also work. Half day. But supervisor like me should work till 5pm on saturday. Damn.. Monday - friday, ot till 8pm. So suck isnt it. Pay u small amount of salary and ot. All his son working with him. Family company. All family in the office. I got a senior supervisor. He is really suck. Push me here and there. Also, like to comment and condemn at the same time. As if he is super good. Kanasai. One shouldnt work at a family own company. Its kinda bored u know. At least find a bigger company. Or the family not working there. That one will be better.
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What a stupid boss. He should not hire muslim if he wanna eat pork all the time if u guys having dinner outside. I mean, if u wanna hire muslim or hindus, respect their religion la. Do not insult them. Other time also can eat pork ma. No need to say we eat mamak because of you. Why hire muslim at the first place if he wanna eat pork when having dinner with staff.
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what to do? not everyone wants to work in ah pek company. laugh.gif salary just 2k. i'm not sure the phrase "we eat mamak because of you" is just a joke or not, as i'm not there... just heard it from colleagues. But still, sensitive issues are not meant for jokes sweat.gif

the boss invited us to his brother's wedding lunch... we never met the bride & groom before, but we went there to give face to the boss. Boss said no need to give angpow. No problem. Problem comes from the partner & his friend, told us to go there early to help out. Err... the boss himself didn't ask us to help... Why so kepoh? Boss only invite us for lunch, no mention of helping out. The friend probably just wants to impress the boss. We ingore them and just went for lunch, the partner is unhappy.

another problem is, the muslim colleague didn't turn up. We (staffs) understand as the wedding is in a chinese restaurant. Non halal mah... but the boss said was unhappy that he didn't turn up. sweat.gif But the staff also not responsible lah... not coming must tell early mah... laugh.gif sweat.gif

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I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled, The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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Your job scope hinted neither anything mechanical nor engineering. If your Diploma result is not too bad, why not try to go for another job? It's painful to work a job where you wake up questioning yourself every morning. Your job scope doesn't add to your CV in the future as well. Better to leave early and work at someplace with relevance than to waste your time in this hell hole of yours.

If you can't find a redeeming point then why bother?
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Working at L3onf@st.sdn bhd

I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled,   The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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Working at L3onf@st.sdn bhd

I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled,   The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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No, you are not weak. It is just the manager who is the problem here. Leave ASAP and find another job. Or, you can start a small business just to earn some income until you get a new job.

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QUOTE(nasilemak2011 @ Oct 9 2014, 11:40 PM)
Please add FUJITSU (M) SDN BHD....(don't be fooled by its being owned by Japanese but it is managed locally by big bunch of chinamen who practised chinamen style management), pls refer to Fujitsu thread for more info.
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Damn! My former manager was from there and when he joined the company that I was working two years ago, he also used his Chinaman attitude to make a living hell out of me! vmad.gif
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Working at L3onf@st.sdn bhd

I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled,  The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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Must leave bro....never sacrifice health and family for your job. You loose your job your family still there for you. You loose your life or hand or leg, you think your boss care? He go find another one only...
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QUOTE(3dwin014 @ Oct 12 2014, 07:05 PM)
Working at L3onf@st.sdn bhd

I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled,  The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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No, it's not that you're weak. My goodness, they treat you like kuli... and there's nothing to learn for doing all these manual work. Please leave the co asap. There are better jobs out there.
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QUOTE(3dwin014 @ Oct 12 2014, 07:05 PM)
Working at L3onf@st.sdn bhd

I graduated with a diploma in mechanical engineering, not to boost myself, because nowadays diploma is also not very high qualification and I dropout during pursuing my degree. So my story begins in February which is after CNY I started working till now. The job scope I applied for is business coordinator in a warehouse. So after I got in I have been given a 3 months probation. So here is how it goes. I started with stock checking, then picking items. And I am not talking about small items, The items I deal with is big and heavy like toilet bowl and basin, but also got small items. The job description is about handling orders and dealing with customer. But it gets worst.

The manager ask me to lift heavy things, then sweep floor(the whole warehouse), then when I go back on time, the manager ask "why go back so early? got wife waiting ar?" Then like to change from A to B. Ask u do A then after done she will said I ask u do B la.. When in good mood c u time hehehe when bad mood, she will said what r u doing?? If can't finish u don't go bek today!!!. Or worst ask me change her pet tortoise water and then ask me to crush tin cans. Sometimes work so tired picking things walking here and there,up and down then at the end of the day only get a packet of Kopi ais. She think she can buy me with just a packet of kopi asi.
Then the office ppl also treat me as their handyman, when need to bring things to their car, they will call me like sometimes I just pass by them they will stop and ask "hey help me take this to my car or hey help me find some unused box" I mean cmon I am a diploma graduate. I didn't sign up for all of these. When confirm time which is June the Hr said I mayb can start doing some paper work but at the end just kuli till now.. Seems like I have been fooled,   The worker(warehhouse dept) there also half half la, some ok some show face and backstab.

I really can't tahan anymore, I work till spinal bone pain and leg muscle pain, Hand got a few scars since I got in there all because I doing the manual labor. Shud I just leave? every single day once I open my eyes I just thinking of leaving. Am I a weak person because work not even 1 year, just 8 months. Or is it the job got problem?
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ohhh, should complain at DOSH (Department of Occupational and Health) for ergonomic safety. then go clinic seek for OHD (Occupational Health Doctor) for further medical attention. then the doctor will do necessary reports, like report complain to SOCSO.

You shouldnt lift any heavy equipment(as far as practicable) as it is a violation on employee safety, health, welfare.

In your later life you will get easily injured. Slip disk is more common injury, once you slipped, you unable to do alot of work, included f**king

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Thanks guys for all the advice. I work till the end of this month. Gave a resignation letter to them already. Can't wait for freedom.
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I found this gem while looking for job, it's about Juru Rub Coils.

http://jururubcoil.blogspot.com/2011/01/te...rk-in-juru.html
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MD, GM and HR consist of father mother and son.
A perfect mix for disaster.
Dont be fooled by the company image and websites.
Shitty workload, peanuts salary, long hours, crappy treatment to coworkers, high turnover rate.
Nuff' said. rolleyes.gif

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Hey boys and girls///
MSN guide for "How To Survive A Toxic Workplace", help a bit..i guess
"http://www.msn.com/en-my/lifestyle/career/how-to-survive-a-toxic-workplace/ar-BB9ZckN"
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This thread seems to be the kinda thread i would like.

currently working in a chinaman company, the qualities etc of a chinaman company exactly like where im working.

Applied for a interior designer job in the end turns out i have to do sales , which i might say im not very good at so most of the time im doing all the drawings and stuff.

Recently found out i might have lymphoma ( CT scan shows i have a huge abdominal mass)
i took like 3 medical leave , because i had to be admitted and by right employees should have a 14days medical leave, but noooo , she go ask the senior/hr , why she didnt deduct my salary, my leave already finish, blahblahblah, already told my boss i might have a serious medical condition, not like i take MC go jalan jalan shopping, im like stuck in the hospital, doing test and scans and she want to deduct my salary.

Its family owned company, the hubby is the typical ah pek who dresses like a taxi driver and burps loudly infront of customers -.- , the wife is so calculative, like every single cent also will question and calculate.

already work here 9 months, patiently waiting for 1 year then ciao .

so moral of the story AVOID FAMILY OWN BUSINESS, brings nothing but headache. i have yet to find a family owned business that is worth working for.
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QUOTE(graceee @ Oct 23 2014, 02:20 AM)
This thread seems to be the kinda thread i would like.

currently working in a chinaman company, the qualities etc of a chinaman company exactly like where im working.

Applied for a interior designer job in the end turns out i have to do sales , which i might say im not very good at so most of the time im doing all the drawings and stuff.

Recently found out i might have lymphoma ( CT scan shows i have a huge abdominal mass)
i took like 3 medical leave , because i had to be admitted and by right employees should have a 14days medical leave, but noooo , she go ask the senior/hr , why she didnt deduct my salary, my leave already finish, blahblahblah, already told my boss i might have a serious medical condition, not like i take MC go jalan jalan shopping, im like stuck in the hospital, doing test and scans and she want to deduct my salary.

Its family owned company, the hubby is the typical ah pek who dresses like a taxi driver and burps loudly infront of customers -.- , the wife is so calculative, like every single cent also will question and calculate. 

already work here 9 months, patiently waiting for 1 year then ciao .

so moral of the story  AVOID FAMILY OWN BUSINESS, brings nothing but headache.  i have yet to find a family owned business that is worth working for.
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Unless you are a family member or a relative of the company's boss, it is not worth working for them.
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Unless you are a family member or a relative of the company's boss, it is not worth working for them.
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totally agree .
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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Oct 13 2014, 10:46 PM)
Hey guys,

Have you encountered with such company that stalk and violating your privacy. They will do anything behind your back without you knowing it. It's pretty scarry ... It's very hard to describe but I've found this article is similar to what my friend is facing now...

Please read guys to understand that such company do really exist . PM me if u want to know the name of the company....
http://stalkingnightmare.wordpress.com/about/

Please please becareful. Be sure to do some research before joining such company. Your life will be upside down and they are going to mess up your life.  I confirmed this is chinaman company.
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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Oct 13 2014, 10:46 PM)
Hey guys,

Have you encountered with such company that stalk and violating your privacy. They will do anything behind your back without you knowing it. It's pretty scarry ... It's very hard to describe but I've found this article is similar to what my friend is facing now...

Please read guys to understand that such company do really exist . PM me if u want to know the name of the company....
http://stalkingnightmare.wordpress.com/about/

Please please becareful. Be sure to do some research before joining such company. Your life will be upside down and they are going to mess up your life.  I confirmed this is chinaman company.
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Wow, this is even worse than a Chinaman company! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(danny_rocker @ Oct 25 2014, 03:29 PM)
Wow, this is even worse than a Chinaman company! ohmy.gif
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I feel it is a far fetched story. More like the girl in the story was paranoid. Who the heck move into your apartment block to harass u over some work related matters? And multiple people at that.
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Another Chinaman company:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


A China web design company based in KL Sentral and the manager is from mainland China who does not know how to speak English. I saw someone posted a thread about this company, so I thought why not add it here. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Oct 26 2014, 02:22 PM)
No one can tell. I don't know also. Everyone knows company can do anything they want if they have evil intentions. They might want to revenge/ jealousy/ ....etc and normally this is usually done by the corporation/company. Chinaman management needless to say, probably they feel their ego and reputation got sabotage in a way. In return, they will harass you and push you down the social ladder. What happening now is only 80% of what you have read in the article but it did happen.

My advice is please take care and research on the company first. Do not enter because you have been offered a position in the company especially Chinaman family business company and if you do, please do a thorough research else you will end up like my friend.
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Hold on.. they are paying you money so they can harrass you? they harass you by paying you money for doing nothing? where can I get a job like that lol smile.gif


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Is Nando's Malaysia a chinaman company?
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Is Nando's Malaysia a chinaman company?
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I am more interested in knowing starbuck.....is under Berjaya. chinaman too?
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I am more interested in knowing starbuck.....is under Berjaya. chinaman too?
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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Nov 3 2014, 11:55 PM)
You might think this is funny. In fact this is what's happening previously. I suspect it happened due to jealousy or revenge. I think management is either pyscho/revengeful type till stalk his employee until to this extent.

100% A NEGATIVE DYSFUNCTIONAL MANAGEMENT and OPERATION IN THIS COMPANY.
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I used to work in a place, where everyone screamed at everyone else, where you were verbally abused pretty much all the time, where the staff did seriously hazardous things, and there were zero safety standards. People were always breaking down from stress, breaking bones and stuff.. it was a war zone smile.gif and yet there was a certain sort of pride in it, that you could do it and see everyone breaking and falling apart and leaving, and you are still here, and still sane, and haven't broken anything yet smile.gif and the pay was Rm900 a month.

So yea, I wonder what his salary was, to be paid to do nothing.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 4 2014, 12:04 AM)
I used to work in a place, where everyone screamed at everyone else, where you were verbally abused pretty much all the time, where the staff did seriously hazardous things, and there were zero safety standards. People were always breaking down from stress, breaking bones and stuff.. it was a war zone smile.gif and yet there was a certain sort of pride in it, that you could do it and see everyone breaking and falling apart and leaving, and you are still here, and still sane, and haven't broken anything yet smile.gif and the pay was Rm900 a month.

So yea, I wonder what his salary was, to be paid to do nothing.
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sounds like what's happening in a stock exchange centre.
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Name of the japan facial company?
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pls add another one, james chui & associates
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Any1 know about K3N H0Ld1Ng Ber--D ?
Currently working at 1 of BerJ@y@ subsidiary
Chinaman company to the max
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CHINA = SCAMMER

ps, im chinese myself.

they are all tricky in businees..
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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Nov 10 2014, 11:18 PM)
I've learnt 1 thing that a company ended with BERHAD, not necessary a good company. In fact the "chinaman" BERHAD is the worst company to work with especially the kind small companies(sdn bhd) merging into Berhad or the family business (bro, sis)  running a Berhad company....

It looks good on outside but rotten inside the company.
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OMG rclxub.gif
i jz thought want to apply as they view my resume
the thing is they really look good at outside at they r property company
Thanks for the advice rclxms.gif
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anyone worked in korea?

or have friend working in korea?

let's compare the korea boss with chinaman
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QUOTE(kenn0202 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:57 PM)
Any1 know about K3N H0Ld1Ng Ber--D ?
Currently working at 1 of BerJ@y@ subsidiary
Chinaman company to the max
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Not K3n Tr@de?
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any comment about YT1? especially ytl power and spytl (construction)
and also mers!ng group?
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QUOTE(anonyzilla @ Oct 26 2014, 02:22 PM)
No one can tell. I don't know also. Everyone knows company can do anything they want if they have evil intentions. They might want to revenge/ jealousy/ ....etc and normally this is usually done by the corporation/company. Chinaman management needless to say, probably they feel their ego and reputation got sabotage in a way. In return, they will harass you and push you down the social ladder. What happening now is only 80% of what you have read in the article but it did happen.

My advice is please take care and research on the company first. Do not enter because you have been offered a position in the company especially Chinaman family business company and if you do, please do a thorough research else you will end up like my friend.
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I wished i realized about this chinaman company trend years ago. i already stuck about 5years in this chinaman company and they are quarreling for about 2 years already.
my head already starts spinning and i really want to get a new job cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(lene002 @ Nov 21 2014, 03:40 PM)
I wished i realized about this chinaman company trend years ago. i already stuck about 5years in this chinaman company and they are quarreling for about 2 years already.
my head already starts spinning and i really want to get a new job  cry.gif  cry.gif
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which one u went into?
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which one u went into?
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not listed in the TS first post...
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so moral of the story  AVOID FAMILY OWN BUSINESS, brings nothing but headache.  i have yet to find a family owned business that is worth working for.
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you are not alone laugh.gif doh.gif
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What about S33 H0Y Ch@N? Chinaman company too?
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the family business company has existed before malaysian independence, so i thought they can survive.but no...my chinese cliques many said when it comes to the 3rd generation,surely hancur
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the family business company has existed before malaysian independence, so i thought they can survive.but no...my chinese cliques many said when it comes to the 3rd generation,surely hancur
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U Sure? always thought the teo family is earning big bucks from property developments
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U Sure? always thought the teo family is earning big bucks from property developments
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So moral of the story is be smart , intelligent so that you have choices in choosing company and not end up in chinaman company .
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Hi badkid:
Pls add:
-M3 Technologies
-eProtea
-Atcen (dumbass ernie)

Typical chinaman companies, rest assured.
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QUOTE(sarkozy @ Dec 7 2014, 01:09 PM)
Hi badkid:
Pls add:
-M3 Technologies
-eProtea
-Atcen (dumbass ernie)

Typical chinaman companies, rest assured.
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Whats the damage for 3 of them? what make u got in to these 3 places? I believe we cant really blacklist for the sick of blacklisting smile.gif

Share your 3 stories
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guys,

want to ask if this fit the definition of chinaman company? The main HQ is at belgium but the local branch is headed by a swiss GM.

Nonetheless, i am attached to the accounting side and because of our team consist of 5 people, i need to do all filing, GL, AP, AR, BS, PL and only get paid 2670 (2370 nett).

Obviously, promotion is very slow since only got 5 people and when i say i want to take unpaid leave for my ICAEW paper, boss straight away muka asam .

New comer turn over is very high. Currently only got 4 people working for less than 3 years but the rest is all 10-20 years with the company.
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Dec 8 2014, 06:39 PM)
guys,

want to ask if this fit the definition of chinaman company? The main HQ is at belgium but the local branch is headed by a swiss GM.

Nonetheless, i am attached to the accounting side and because of our team consist of 5 people, i need to do all filing, GL, AP, AR, BS, PL and only get paid 2670 (2370 nett).

Obviously, promotion is very slow since only got 5 people and when i say i want to take unpaid leave for my ICAEW paper, boss straight away muka asam .

New comer turn over is very high. Currently only got 4 people working for less than 3 years but the rest is all 10-20 years with the company.
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The bolded part is a great indicator of chinaman company . A normal company would have many level of employees.
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^ How about a small cadre / "inner circle" of 10 people, that have been there forever, uncertain how they actually add value (beyond getting deals via either telling lies to clients or cronyism), and the "inner circle" is always telling people how competent they are, while not doing any of the work they're supposed to be competent at?

Also, over a 100 headcount, fire 5 people every month (rotating door)?

Is that a "Chinaman company"?
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On the other hand, observe how these "Chinaman Company" hire staff:
They are looking for people who:
1. have obligations e.g. student loans, married, mortgage or car loan
2. pay rent
3. live far away (so it's hard to justify going back at office hours = free work for the boss)
4. can't find another job easily (that's why these bosses seem to know each other: so that they can create a cartel and punish staff who want to leave)
5. if they pay rent, they live in a room with just a bed so there's little incentive to go home if all you do is sleep there.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 6 2014, 01:41 PM)
Haha. Malaysia ke arah foreign workers like indon/nepal soon. Dang. 90% of my school mates fled over Australia and other western countries. I tried not 2 think that's true but as time goes by, it's the reality. doh.gif I won't blame them 4 doing so anyway. doh.gif They are richer than all the average earners in malaysia already after 1 year work there. Yikes.
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LOL it's quite difficult to work in Australia NOW
unless you studied there
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get a company to sponsor you using the education you gained at University.

Many people from Malaysia are now in Australia,
being UNDER-employed.
As someone else has said,
if you earn RM5k/month or under in Malaysia, go to Australia (if they'll have you)
if you earn over RM10k/month in Malaysia, you will get a junior role in Australia (and maybe even be stuck there 4 life).

The harvest for Chinaman companies, is continuing in earnest.
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What about S33 H0Y Ch@N? Chinaman company too?
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Yes. Please list this company too, badkid. Also have different subsidiaries under them. They handling BU township mostly. Was talking to someone working in 1U. No off or extra pay working on Christmas even for Christians. blink.gif
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The harvest for Chinaman companies, is continuing in earnest.
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and more malays that did not get GOV job will be leeched in low post jobs and mid post jobs cool.gif not being racism but just cold hard facts cool2.gif while the chinese that can afford 2 leave will leave the country sooner than we blink laugh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(The Trader @ Dec 16 2014, 11:43 PM)
Yes. Please list this company too, badkid. Also have different subsidiaries under them. They handling BU township mostly. Was talking to someone working in 1U. No off or extra pay working on Christmas even for Christians.  blink.gif
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this one i sure absconded sooner than boss thinks doh.gif shakehead.gif
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TS, please add in Sh1n1ng C0nt1nuum Symmetry Sdn Bhd (0'8ri3ns S@ndw1ch C@f3).

In 1 year, accounts department changed more than 10 staff. Most Managers never stay for more than 1 year. Teruk.

When boss can't handle, ask you to handle also. Boss expect you to handle everything. No bonus, increment like peanuts unless you are the pet cat.

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W@h Ch@N is also a chinaman company...

We don't encourage our staff to take sick leave, later they abuse it. Medical claim limit is RM20 a month. RM20?! I go pharmacy buy medicine also not enough, don't even talk about seeing a doctor.

Every tiny thing also have to go through the MD approval. Who's the MD? The one man who oversees everything no matter what department you're in. And when I say oversee everything, I mean up till what shit picture you select to put on FB to how you display the jewellery in store.

No S&P at all for anything. Newbies? Good luck because there's no guidance. You go see see what we did last time and agak-agak do la. Or you see see competitor do what, then we do what lo. Go stalk and take H@b!B's brochures and all. See how they photograph their product, and how they name their product, then we copy.

YES, even product name! You know how they come up with product names? Come come, we gather the whole freaking department, each one come up with a few suggestions. Okay, then we compile the whole list. 50 suggested names? Okay okay, then we will hold a meeting at 6pm with MD to go through the list.

By 7.30pm, MD free to see you all liao, so the whole department go into MD office sit, open extra foldable table cause not enough place sit. We go through the list, one by one. No laptops, nothing, just the list of the names and your mobile phone (no wifi so please use your own data plan). Okay, then we google one by one, see what the name means, then we eliminate based on votes. By 10pm, we finally settled on a name! After 10 people wasted their entire night sitting around GOOGLING names and voting. Need 10 people meh to do this kind of things?

Okay, once we settled on the names, we need to select photo of models liao. Time to google stock images! On your phones! Individually. So what are we googling? CNY model, CNY cheongsam model, CNY gold ad, etc etc. Then we will show each other the images we found on the phone, then continue googling. WADAFAK. Liddis 12am also no need to go home.

Next day, please come in sharp at 8.30am, we rinse and repeat.
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Truth to be told, sometimes, or perhaps most of the time, the "Chinaman" Companies are giving much greater packages and bonuses to their employees, taking better care of their employees as compared to the MNCs with the western culture.
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QUOTE(Daily Kaizen @ Feb 25 2015, 06:08 PM)
Truth to be told, sometimes, or perhaps most of the time, the "Chinaman" Companies are giving much greater packages and bonuses to their employees, taking better care of their employees as compared to the MNCs with the western culture.
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somewhat true. it has to depend on which chinaman company. not all chinaman company is that worse. not all mnc is that great.
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QUOTE(Daily Kaizen @ Feb 25 2015, 06:08 PM)
Truth to be told, sometimes, or perhaps most of the time, the "Chinaman" Companies are giving much greater packages and bonuses to their employees, taking better care of their employees as compared to the MNCs with the western culture.
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I partially agree with your statement, but it also depends on which "Chinaman" company you work for. But they are quite generous in giving out bonuses during Chinese New Year.
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Haha. End of the day, if company good, stay. If not, bye bye. I dont know if this is malaysia thing only in highest turnover every single day. laugh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(demetry @ Feb 25 2015, 11:53 PM)
somewhat true. it has to depend on which chinaman company. not all chinaman company is that worse. not all mnc is that great.
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Indeed, and, the plus point of working in some (would say some) "Chinaman" company, if the boss and top management were to value you as an important asset, they can give any percentage of increment to you as they want. I do have a friend who is very highly valued by his boss, being given few hundred % (not hundred dollars) increment and also a continental car under his name, which is not quite possible in MNCs whereby the increment scheme is rigidly stipulated in the HR policy.
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I partially agree with your statement, but it also depends on which "Chinaman" company you work for. But they are quite generous in giving out bonuses during Chinese New Year.
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Indeed true, the CNY bonuses given by some "Chinaman" Company are good.
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my company,

owner single when 1st open this company, grows really well, then married with one of his staff. Next thing happen is his wife become director. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(demetry @ Feb 25 2015, 11:53 PM)
somewhat true. it has to depend on which chinaman company. not all chinaman company is that worse. not all mnc is that great.
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u guys need to read from beginning of thread again...

definition of chinaman company :- as long as that company is lousy coy with and shitty management cultural that forummer not happy with, regardless it is cannis, India, Malay or even mnc coy....that called "chinaman" company in this thread. smile.gif

so in your case, that's not chinaman company.
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I m workin at one of cinaman co for 2months now. In puchong. Suck ur energy kaw2.. During iv, manager said ot is up to u. They not force u to ot.. After u work, they said must ot. Saturday also work. Half day. But supervisor like me should work till 5pm on saturday. Damn.. Monday - friday, ot till 8pm. So suck isnt it. Pay u small amount of salary and ot. All his son working with him. Family company. All family in the office. I got a senior supervisor. He is really suck.  Push me here and there. Also, like to comment and condemn at the same time. As if he is super good. Kanasai. One shouldnt work at a family own company. Its kinda bored u know. At least find a bigger company. Or the family not working there. That one will be better.
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How do i know if the company is family business?
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re:sources malaysia <<<<<<those who work here before, should know how was it.

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You mean this company?

http://www.mrcb.com.my/main/career_opportunities.php
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Pls add this Thermo Hygro/Thermo Integra and you confirm tapao liao if join them
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You mean this company?

http://www.mrcb.com.my/main/career_opportunities.php
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That company don't even have Official Website rclxub.gif

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That company don't even have Official Website  rclxub.gif
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Its a shared service center
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Some after finished studies straight become the MD too.

QUOTE(badkid @ Mar 21 2014, 08:12 AM)
another pattern is:

son of Founder after study firstwork is at company, straight away become Manager.
1 yrs later become Director...
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Hi all. I have just updated the list as requested.
Please forgive inactivity past months
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I got apply this company few days ago in jobstreet. lol..

QUOTE(Curiouzz @ May 20 2015, 09:03 PM)
DeGem Bhd and subsidaries. THink twice before joining.
Worst company I've ever heard in my life ....Gangsta Paradise
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From their jobstreet ad, look like offer a lot fringe benefits.

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Chinaman family business company. GOod luck! If they don't like you they will use gangsta way to manipulate you (secretly from behind)
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Hi badkid:
Pls add this kompani as well:
FR3nclub Mobile. Typical Chinaman kompani, sucks!
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Hi badkid:
Pls add this kompani as well:
FR3nclub Mobile. Typical Chinaman kompani, sucks!
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I just checked their website. It is so lousy. doh.gif
It's like they hired college kid to design the website
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add this one,

Cyp@rk Re50urce5 8erH@D

Seriously, stay away... 10/10 would hang ur self if ignore this warning
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Jasmine Food Corporation Sdn Bhd
..no salary increment for sales staff (even work for 9 years)
..no chances for promotion to higher position
..8 days annual leave
..no annual bonus
..OT everyday til 7-8pm
..expect sales staff to work on weekend
..heavy politic
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Jasmine Food Corporation Sdn Bhd
..no salary increment for sales staff (even work for 9 years)
..no chances for promotion to higher position
..8 days annual leave
..no annual bonus
..OT everyday til 7-8pm
..expect sales staff to work on weekend
..heavy politic
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Depending on how long you have worked, 8 days could be a violation of the Labor Act:

60E. (1) An employee shall be entitled to paid annual leave of :

(a) eight days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of less than two years;
(b) twelve days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of two years or more but less than five years; and
(c ) sixteen days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of five years or more;
and if he has not completed twelve months of continuous service with the same employer during the year in which his contract of service terminates, his entitlement to paid annual leave shall be in direct proportion to the number of completed months of service:

You should report to the Labor Department if you are getting 8 days if you have been service for more than 2 years. brows.gif
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I got apply this company few days ago in jobstreet. lol..
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Depending on how long you have worked, 8 days could be a violation of the Labor Act:

60E. (1) An employee shall be entitled to paid annual leave of :

(a) eight days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of less than two years;
(b) twelve days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of two years or more but less than five years; and
(c ) sixteen days for every twelve months of continuous service with the same employer if he has been employed by that employer for a period of five years or more;
and if he has not completed twelve months of continuous service with the same employer during the year in which his contract of service terminates, his entitlement to paid annual leave shall be in direct proportion to the number of completed months of service:

You should report to the Labor Department if you are getting 8 days if you have been service for more than 2 years.  brows.gif
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work for 9 months and quit. really chinaman company. they follow exactly labor law by giving 8 days for those who work less than 2 years, 12 days for those who work more than 2 years yada yada so they won't get sue!

they even hold and deduct salesman commission and incentives for any reason they like....
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work for 9 months and quit. really chinaman company. they follow exactly labor law by giving 8 days for those who work less than 2 years, 12 days for those who work more than 2 years yada yada so they won't get sue!

they even hold and deduct salesman commission and incentives for any reason they like....
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Lol....typical chinaman...damn calculative.
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add this one,

Cyp@rk Re50urce5 8erH@D

Seriously, stay away... 10/10 would hang ur self if ignore this warning
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What's wrong with this company? Mind to tell us? hmm.gif
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What about S33 H0Y Ch@N? Chinaman company too?
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i heard they are very rich, very rich. now they are just maintaining their business.

nothing new, money all block, slow to pay out, just want to keep cash.


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What's wrong with this company? Mind to tell us? hmm.gif
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people come and leave every week...small berhad company,

they transfer u from site to site within 24 hour (dont care where u live or sleep)

late 15 minute cut 1 hour salary. go back on time, they think u dont have work and its a big crime.

the boss came around noon, so, drag the meeting from 10pm to 1am in the morning (this is serious issue, almost everdyay like this, 4/5 working days)

boss purposely sack you even it not your fault.

mini boss bully others and even spread rumor u take money from supplier or others related to company just to see u suffer.

cronism and favorism is too damn high.


all staff even low level clerk, 3 month notice, if u run, they will report to JTM (sue you for breach) for 3 month, even 1 month left.. maximise profit.


bro, i can write a lot, to be short, not even chinese or malays can handle this (98% malay and chinese)
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people come and leave every week...small berhad company,

they transfer u from site to site within 24 hour (dont care where u live or sleep)

late 15 minute cut 1 hour salary. go back on time, they think u dont have work and its a big crime.

the boss came around noon, so, drag the meeting from 10pm to 1am in the morning (this is serious issue, almost everdyay like this, 4/5 working days)

boss purposely sack you even it not your fault.

mini boss bully others and even spread rumor u take money from supplier or others related to company just to see u suffer.

cronism and favorism is too damn high.
all staff even low level clerk, 3 month notice, if u run, they will report to JTM (sue you for breach) for 3 month, even 1 month left.. maximise profit.
bro, i can write a lot, to be short, not even chinese or malays can handle this (98% malay and chinese)
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Ohh i see, i check the websites, all the people in management are Malay people.

This is worst than Chinaman company sweat.gif
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Ohh i see, i check the websites, all the people in management are Malay people.

This is worst than Chinaman company sweat.gif
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malay only proxy, ceo is accountant doing the construction industry...(no brainer making rocket?)

all head are chinese accept legal (only indian in the office)...
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my current company

Salary below market rate (even after increment still way below market rate)
Late 1 min onwards - issue memo (productivity starts sharp at 9)
No use of social media - Whatsapp, skype, viber, wechat
Mileage claim - 45 cents
Medical claim - rm 35 and no panel clinic - how to get such rates now?
CNY Angpao - RM 5/RM 10
Not allowed to use coffee maker in office, pantry only water, coffee powder, tea bags
Each time go out for meeting/see clients need to inform admin to write in a book
CNY Lunch only for sales/marketing
Good life if you're a relative/GM likes u, favouritism is a norm
Resigned before bonus pay out (in MAY) but still serving notice, not paid even a single cent although worked from Jan-Dec of previous year
Must notify by 9.15 if on MC otherwise considered as EL
If take EL (Maximum 6 days, if more will be considered unpaid leave although still have AL), must provide supporting documents (eg death certificate, accident report, police report etc.)
Cannot be absent from work area unless with permission from superior
Skipping lunch or staying beyond office working hours not accepted as an excuse for being late for work or early time-off from work
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QUOTE(minzyyy @ May 29 2015, 04:13 PM)
my current company

Salary below market rate (even after increment still way below market rate)
Late 1 min onwards - issue memo (productivity starts sharp at 9)
No use of social media - Whatsapp, skype, viber, wechat
Mileage claim - 45 cents
Medical claim - rm 35 and no panel clinic - how to get such rates now?
CNY Angpao - RM 5/RM 10
Not allowed to use coffee maker in office, pantry only water, coffee powder, tea bags
Each time go out for meeting/see clients need to inform admin to write in a book
CNY Lunch only for sales/marketing
Good life if you're a relative/GM likes u, favouritism is a norm
Resigned before bonus pay out (in MAY) but still serving notice, not paid even a single cent although worked from Jan-Dec of previous year
Must notify by 9.15 if on MC otherwise considered as EL
If take EL (Maximum 6 days, if more will be considered unpaid leave although still have AL), must provide supporting documents (eg death certificate, accident report, police report etc.)
Cannot be absent from work area unless with permission from superior
Skipping lunch or staying beyond office working hours not accepted as an excuse for being late for work or early time-off from work
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damn why still stay in this co?
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TS...please add Averis Sdn Bhd into the list..tks.
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How Averis is that Chinamen?
Care to enlighten?
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Ohh shit, after reading this thread i feel much luckier. Should stop bitching about my company. Way better than all horror stories posted here.
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Ohh shit, after reading this thread i feel much luckier. Should stop bitching about my company. Way better than all horror stories posted here.
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I'm happy to hear that. One of the initial reason I started this thread.
Target achieved smile.gif
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damn why still stay in this co?
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recently tendered and never regretted one bit! smile.gif never gonna go back to chinaman company
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here my experience:
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This post has been edited by HappyHampers: Oct 19 2015, 06:35 PM
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How is M3wah01eo considered? Anyone working inside?
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Ʈränşmeḍia

work there for only 8 months then i fast fast cabut liao. beh tahan this place.

1. all companies are own by same boss.

2. all benefits are as following the labour law. no more no less.

3. seriously underpay for all levels of position. can you imagine degree get 1.5k only?

4. practise favouritism until the max. blind people also can see who is the most beloved person in office. you rub my back i rub your back lor.

5. must beware of the boss, especially the lady boss. super duper 8-po and she has psychology problem because she is unmarried old lady!!!

6. they are stealers!!!! like to steal subtitles from online subbing community and claim as own. because i also volunteer in one of those online community, so i damn hate they do this. not professional!!! can sue them or not?
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Companies:
ƤṀƤ Ḕǹtẽṙtáiƞmeńṯ
Ἢὡἁ Ῡēẚ ℳụlṯiṃȇdiá
Sƙȳtȇċḫ
Ʈränşmeḍia

work there for only 8 months then i fast fast cabut liao. beh tahan this place.

1. all companies are own by same boss.

2. all benefits are as following the labour law. no more no less.

3. seriously underpay for all levels of position. can you imagine degree get 1.5k only?

4. practise favouritism until the max. blind people also can see who is the most beloved person in office. you rub my back i rub your back lor.

5. must beware of the boss, especially the lady boss. super duper 8-po and she has psychology problem because she is unmarried old lady!!!

6. they are stealers!!!! like to steal subtitles from online subbing community and claim as own. because i also volunteer in one of those online community, so i damn hate they do this. not professional!!! can sue them or not?
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1.5k only rclxub.gif .
KFC Assistant manager (Diploma level) nowadays they pay RM2000.

So cheapskate.
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Not all chinaman companies are like that.. Only for a certain company meh.. Especially for the smallest chinaman companies.. They are quite races, pilih kasih and always bully and forces their employees to work like a cow especially for employees who work as a 'kuli' position.. I had experiences working at small and big chinaman companies as a 'kuli'.. Hahaha.. The small company always bully meh 😢.. But the big company is quite OK laa..haha
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for heaven's sake just give the proper name.

please add this to the list: xylem water solutions

attempt to forfeit my annual leave earned while serving notice.

TRY to counter offer by offering some other regional position with higher salary but cannot CANNOT CONFIRM HOW MUCH.. but asks for offer letter from other company to "match" the salary. means they are not sincere in compensate properly in the first place.

this is because i didnt give a chance to counter in my current position.

its a good place to learn tho but not a place to stay on for good.
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QUOTE(badkid @ May 30 2015, 02:58 AM)
I'm happy to hear that. One of the initial reason I started this thread.
Target achieved smile.gif
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Hi badkid:
Plz add this company as well - One Two One Advisor Sdn. Bhd. (121advisor). Boss is mat salleh but management
is totally Chinaman mentality, work on public holidays, even stay at ofis till midnite to finish work...
...Real kiasu punya company...
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List updated as all has requested, in thread as well as in pm.
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Anyway, if salary is the only yardstick u use to determine if a company is chinaman company or not. Then it isn't a fair comparison between chinaman company (cmc) and other companies. My 2 cents
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QUOTE(minzyyy @ May 29 2015, 04:13 PM)
my current company

Salary below market rate (even after increment still way below market rate)
Late 1 min onwards - issue memo (productivity starts sharp at 9)
No use of social media - Whatsapp, skype, viber, wechat
Mileage claim - 45 cents
Medical claim - rm 35 and no panel clinic - how to get such rates now?
CNY Angpao - RM 5/RM 10
Not allowed to use coffee maker in office, pantry only water, coffee powder, tea bags
Each time go out for meeting/see clients need to inform admin to write in a book
CNY Lunch only for sales/marketing
Good life if you're a relative/GM likes u, favouritism is a norm
Resigned before bonus pay out (in MAY) but still serving notice, not paid even a single cent although worked from Jan-Dec of previous year
Must notify by 9.15 if on MC otherwise considered as EL
If take EL (Maximum 6 days, if more will be considered unpaid leave although still have AL), must provide supporting documents (eg death certificate, accident report, police report etc.)
Cannot be absent from work area unless with permission from superior
Skipping lunch or staying beyond office working hours not accepted as an excuse for being late for work or early time-off from work
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i don't see much wrong with most of the items above. most japanese mnc practice the same things.
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QUOTE(HappyHampers @ May 31 2015, 11:05 AM)
here my experience:

1. local chinaman bank - everyday OT without OT pay even pay is below RM900. seniors and officer bully u here n there. Benefit good.
2. local Malay conglemerate berhard - no need to work OT. But... 2 years no bonus no increment... Report to Female boss.. Average benefit.
3. Local chinaman software house - Only 5 people work in the office. Multi tasking role. No proper offer letter, which didnt indicate AL, benefits etc...
4. Local chinaman computer retail shop - Only 5 people work in office. No offer letter, no pay slip... not sure got EPF o not.
3. Singaporean chinaman bank - Worked directly to female boss and HOD is female also... Benefits good.
4. US MNC - Everyday OT without OT pay even pay is below 1.5k. Benefit good.
5. Local chinaman company - Big boss is female... Work OT can claim OT pay. very Standard benefits. Only superior is good.
6. Local conglemerate group - Benefits good. But... no career advancement, very low increment. big bonus though.
7. Singaporean Chinaman MNC - standard benefits... no need ot but chinaman management style.
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i'm just curious, what were you expecting when you apply for a job? go to work at 10am whatsapp and fb all day long while taking 2 hour lunch and going home on time? if you were the boss and all your life saving is poured into the company, part of which went to pay your staff salary, and your staff show some tidak apa attitude "i'm just an employee and i want my right" kind, are you happy?

For me, if possible, i will terminate them and ask them to pay me back all the salary they have taken from me. Its no different than robbing your employers.
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Stumbled upon this thread while looking for company background.

Got a call from W!llowgen MSC for Assistant Engineer position. He said need to sign 1-year contract for the job. A trap?

Anyone working with this company before? Can share experience?
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Apex Pharmacy Marketing....

1) job promotion is based on favoritism. if bosses no favour u, u will be outta the company very very soon.

2) management has full veto power and don't listen to staffs.

3) if you help out in that particular job, eventually the job will be yours and you will bear the full brunt if you don't achieve the target / objectives. if you achieve it, than you'll be loaded more of it.

4) never say "no" to the management or you will die sooner than u think.
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Wiley Global Services Sdn Bhd. Is a Australian company but the Malaysia's branch is rule by a chinese kiamsiap hokkien lang. Treat all the staffs like a Chinaman company.

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Chinaman Company normally without bonus & low increment.
Low allowance and claim rate.
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Latest update done. By the time we listed more, all of M'sian companies would be inside ady. And job seekers can start referring this thread to find jobs xD
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I-clty properties / sdn bhd or we call it i-shitty properties / sdn bhd

Work on public holiday, NO REPLACEMENT.
Boss shout here n there scolding.
Medical claim rm50
most office needs to work 5.5 days to 6days
No ot claim, everyday at least OT free 1-2 hours
Want smtg now, must get it done by now or today
1 people do more than 3 ppl's job but get 1ppl's pay
stupid politics between boss over stupid things and very openly doing it
boss can turn the truth right infront of you and say is your fault
and more. Seriouslly shit smile.gif
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Stste also which department
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Help my fren post here and beware of this company:

Kubang Media Sdn Bhd (Outdoor advertising)
- GM - Nicky Ng Li Li pathetic psycho drama queen shouting and scolding staff with bad words, demotivate staff and treat them like shit, throwing stuff out of her room when piss.

- Mileage claim RM0.25/km

- expect 1 marketing exec to do 3 ppls job

- job promotion is based on favoritism and to those know how to polish her shoe

- heavy politic even whole company is less than 10 staffs

- GM can put a heavy accuse and blame on staff (etc: causing company to lose 30k and issue warning letter to staff)

- Company owe millions ringgit to government and cannot afford to pay the fine
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Anyone working in pr3$$m3t@l ? Chinaman also?
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i don't see much wrong with most of the items above. most japanese mnc practice the same things.
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Really? Because i just post many resume 2 many jap mnc in the whole JB/senai/kulai area. laugh.gif doh.gif fingers crossed.
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QUOTE(HappyHampers @ May 31 2015, 11:05 AM)
here my experience:

1. local chinaman bank - everyday OT without OT pay even pay is below RM900. seniors and officer bully u here n there. Benefit good.
2. local Malay conglemerate berhard - no need to work OT. But... 2 years no bonus no increment... Report to Female boss.. Average benefit.
3. Local chinaman software house - Only 5 people work in the office. Multi tasking role. No proper offer letter, which didnt indicate AL, benefits etc...
4. Local chinaman computer retail shop - Only 5 people work in office. No offer letter, no pay slip... not sure got EPF o not.
3. Singaporean chinaman bank - Worked directly to female boss and HOD is female also... Benefits good.
4. US MNC - Everyday OT without OT pay even pay is below 1.5k. Benefit good.
5. Local chinaman company - Big boss is female... Work OT can claim OT pay. very Standard benefits. Only superior is good.
6. Local conglemerate group - Benefits good. But... no career advancement, very low increment. big bonus though.
7. Singaporean Chinaman MNC - standard benefits... no need ot but chinaman management style.
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You sure got lotsa crappy experiences. Sad to be you. Have you ever wondered whether the problem is actually yourself ?
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I want to add one :

Olympia College. Managed by family (Indian).

The salary at here is really underpaid.
Management staff, basic RM1400. Can u imagine that. It's located at Klang Valley. It's not at Perlis, it's not at Kelantan. Even Tukang Sapu sampah tepi jalan, their salary is higher. doh.gif

Staff turnover is really high. Lecturer, management staff, some of them work for 1-2 month then resign.

Workload is quite heavy. Expect us to do so many things but you gave us low salary.
Mileage claim only 0.45 cent.
Every time when we want to go out from this college, need to write your name in a book. LOL laugh.gif

There's one staff that work for long at this company. Around 10-14 years. They increase the staff salary for RM200 only sepanjang berkhidmat at this company

If you have friends, siblings that want to study or work at Olympia, please go other places, unless if you feel desperate for a job, then you can apply at this college.

This post has been edited by Luke Bryan: Oct 17 2015, 01:22 PM
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post Oct 17 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(luvjiajia @ May 27 2015, 02:56 PM)
Jasmine Food Corporation Sdn Bhd
..no salary increment for sales staff (even work for 9 years)
..no chances for promotion to higher position
..8 days annual leave
..no annual bonus
..OT everyday til 7-8pm
..expect sales staff to work on weekend
..heavy politic
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LOL. I just applied this company last week laugh.gif
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