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 Let's Talk "Chinaman Company", A List of Malaysian "Chinaman Company"

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KOHTT
post Feb 28 2014, 06:04 PM

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Next time if we (Chinese) set up a company in Malaysia for doing business, then it will be termed as "chinaman" company by whoever worked under us. biggrin.gif


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post Feb 28 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(badkid @ Feb 28 2014, 06:30 PM)
Actually you're both right.
The term Chinaman company is very demeaning and a tad insulting.
And always, often, we always compare with western MNC in term of these criteria of comparisons.

that's why, we have to set a clear definition of 'chinaman' as defined in my first post. and MYTH sections that bunks every other things.

'chinaman' here is clearly a certain mentality.
Even japanese management company also have these mentality.
You havnt worked for Indiaman company yet. also another kind of mentality.

That's why, 'chinaman company' now is no longer a term exclusive just for chinese.
BUT, it's a term that actually describing a certain type of management or mentality that plague people in general, impartially
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I still think Chinaman company must be run by the Chinese. Otherwise, how can we called it "Chinaman"?

Indiaman company run by the Indian boss to certain extend same as chinaman company, but those are still India man company.

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post Mar 4 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 4 2014, 05:07 PM)
I would say all but  some (not naming it specifically ) Berjaya Group of Companies. 

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I had gone to Mazda's Head Office (One of the Berjaya Group Subsidiary) for interview way back to 3 years ago.

They give 3 bonuses depending whether they achieve the sales target or not....+ a Mazda car for higher level Managerial Staff. brows.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(robertchoo @ Mar 23 2014, 01:55 PM)
If you want to work for a Chinaman company don't work for those big ones like Public or Hong Leong Group. Work for those very very small ones where the pay is miserable, the hours are long and gruelling and you are expected to do everything from sales to accounting. Better still if you have a boss that generally just don't care. I tell you if you can put in 4-5 years in those kind of jobs, really work your @sses off and be very very good at your job and really get to know the business and the people (i.e. the suppliers, customers, etc) you can easily come out and set-up your own company and take all the clients away. Its your ticket to your own company with min risk.

But strange none of the younger generation people see this golden opportunity.
There is always opportunity behind hardship. But people see the hardship but they don't see the opportunity
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The idea is very interesting. I did not see any graduate opt for this option unless that is their parent business.

Yes. It might be good if someone want to be entrepreneur and start up own business. Good to learn up how to set up the business.

But if no intention to start own business, then it is waste of time and our limited life span.

Small Chinaman company system should be quite simple and no proper process in place. The resume also does not look impressive to the future employer if that person intend to look for work elsewhere.
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post Apr 22 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Apr 22 2014, 10:35 AM)
Haha I can't believe there is a thread specially 4 the chinaman company. Kudos ts. rclxms.gif I also in chinaman company coming out from MNC which kicked me out after only 2 weeks probation. doh.gif Now I am staying strong after 2 years. laugh.gif
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If what we done is not suitable for that company, go to somewhere else that who will appreciate our contribution.

That will always be a right place for us. thumbup.gif

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post May 6 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Chigme @ May 5 2014, 04:39 PM)
Macam mana MAA TAKAFUL can be considered Chinaman company? Any particular division or company wide?
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Any companies that the ppl don't like will be listed here. laugh.gif
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post Jun 30 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(MR.Jellyfish @ Jun 30 2014, 07:56 AM)
there corrected
MNC job - pay more & benefit higher, flexible
              your job performance review every 6 months
              Expect you to contribute less and extra work is compensated
              In short, stretch your capability and comfort zone

Chinaman -  pay can be significantly lower. Benefits a lots lower
                  Job performance review 12 months or some 6 months
                  Expectation - boss snap finger work done dont care you 3 days no sleep. Requires intense multi tasking.
                  In short, simple structure.  No room for creativity and initiative for improvement.
                  Promotion chances - easier if you are a relative.
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There are many types of MNC and many different type of chinaman companies.

I agree that some of the small chinaman companies, such as car workshop may fit into your description....

But not all chinaman companies function it that way especially the big listed chinaman company.

 

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