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This post has been edited by kianwee: Aug 22 2012, 12:17 PM

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This post has been edited by kianwee: Aug 22 2012, 12:10 PM

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Want to get the Dell one. Should I pair it with the additional speaker which can hook underneath the monitor? Is it worth?

nope, dedicated speakers are way better for the same price range.

I see. There is a plug in for audio in the dell monitor. If u use hdmi, then I plug my speaker to the monitor audio plug in? Then got sound?

guys, which one is more worth it? Getting Dell ST2320L with RM 414 or Dell ST2420L with RM 524? Please advice.

Hello guys, I want to buy a new 23 inch monitor but I don know which one is the best?

In my mind is that dell U2312HM or samsung S23B350H which one is the best for gaming and movie.

So I would like to get some opinion or feedback from person who has use this both monitor before.

Thank!

Best lcd monitor for gamming +- rm600?

Gratz on new thread.

Dell U2312HM. Has a pretty good panel eh.

I thought between these two monitor only screen size difference.

i heard that ST2320L only 21.5inch. can anyone confirm this?

ST2320L is 23", the number 23 in the model number indicate that, the 21.5" model is ST2220L (22").

People do not simply listen to others. I hope your browser is not broken enough to do a search.
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdet...hs&sku=320-9333

Thanks a lot guys. Think it cost more to have 1inch bigger. not really worth it right? better get 23inch then?

I just bought the ST2320L RM414 just now.
If you want an extra inch and willing to pay for the extra price, then go for it.
Estimated delivery at next Tuesday.

nice.. really cheap and good monitor right? you didnt purchase the optional speaker?

Nope, not really worth it, I tried to chat with their salesperson to get it for free, but can't maybe because it is already at very low price.

The speaker don't really worth the price, you can get better speaker at that price.

how about the monitor? really value for the deal?

Can't tell yet, I just placed the order today lol.
I'll give it a review after I receive the monitor, but by then the price will be RM464 already.

but depend on the review given by other ppl, it is said that it is a very good monitor. just the panel not that good.

what is the best 23 inch monitor out there??

thanks

is ViewSonice monitor good?

Yep, because it is just using normal TN panel, which don't have good viewing angle.
If you don't need HDMI port like me, you can opt for the U2312HM which uses IPS panel.

im dell soundbar user (silver body blue lite) integrating well under screen
make sure ur monitor got 12V power output

it use multiple 1" driver which suprisingly satisfy for me.
can beat off SG morron usb 5v those entry speaker

beside got 2 headphone jack +back can connect subwoofer out (need seperate amp)

I need HDMI port because i want to use it to play PS3. So the graphic will be more nicer than my current one? I am currently using 21.5 inch LCD monitor and the setup is using HDMI convert to DVI port because my current LCD monitor don't have HDMI port.

If you already have the HDMI to DVI converter then you should go for the IPS screen.
Worth it if you like to play games while laying down or you are not facing the screen straight up.
I get the ST2320L because it is cheaper and I am lazy to get the converter.

I don stand or lying when playing games. I sit straight up and i don want to go IPS screen because it is very expensive compare to the normal one. I think ST2320L is a good deal because it is Full HD and got HDMI port and also LED.

anyone have experiences using AOC monitors?

i'd like to know some feedbacks

budget? try to have a look at this Dell UltraSharp U2312HM

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...2163&redirect=1

Just bought Dell ST2420L 24 inch LED monitor with Merdeka Promotion at RM524 online yesterday. Already received msg say that will delivery on tomorrow, so fast and efficiency.

i wan to try U2312HM

but i like to play games in the dark when late at night

heard not too much white spot will appear on the screen

is this true,any U2312HM user like to comment? especially play in the dark part

Im looking for a fast response time Moniter with great colour ,More towards fast response but good enough so you will not notice the difference when watching HD movies . =) No budget at the moment. Size preffered 23 inch to 24 inch

This post has been edited by Ryepoh: Aug 24 2012, 11:37 PM

I was checking on the Dell website and found DellTM UltraSharp U2713HM 27" Monitor with LED priced at 1799 as compared to the older at DellTM U2711 priced at 2099... the new 2713 is a budget model of 27" IPS or a new model to replace the old one?

I have the 2312, while the color is a major step up from my previous BenQ hd2400, the black level is a major step down. Dark areas, depending on the setting, is either too bright or too dark - hard to get optimal shadows in dark areas. Not so nice for atmospheric rpg games where lightning and shadows are important features. You can get by it but it depends on your tolerance for such things.

I have some bleeding on the bottom left but i've gotten used to it.

Other than that, it's quite a decent lcd for gaming but you may want to look at alternatives if things like black level is important to you.

ty for ur response bro

2312 such a good bargain compare to other brand with excellent after sales customer services

im using AOC..aoc e2243fw2k. not bad for a tn panel, high contrast ratio.. if u play fast paced game like crysis2, mw3, mw2, u will love the feel, vibrant colours due to 2ms & 50m contrast ratio

This post has been edited by Ulysses: Aug 25 2012, 05:34 PM

Thanks for the reply

But how about the build quality?

Well, this quite subjective...but for me, it stands above those viewsonic. no offence.. much better if u can try, watch urself at nearby pc shop.

I'm interested with U2312HM too. The price is so attractive.

yeah agree with ya
so attractive

Totally new model, and it won't supersede the U2711, it's of different league.
U2713HM probably has the same panel as the U2312HM and U2412M, it just got bigger display and it come with USB 3.0 Hub, added 1 HDMI which is a great plus, definitely a good addition for entry 27" IPS monitor.
But, will still need to wait for professional reviews regards few points, such as back light bleed, true pixel response time, input lag and viewing angles.

But it is 8ms compare to other normal TN LED monitor with 5ms, will 3ms makes a lot of difference?

finally 27" version using led backlight releasing to consumer.

i am waiting for 30" using led panel, then i will upgrade my current u2412m

anyway: if anyone want to read so-called professional review for this u2713hm: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/dell_u2713hm.htm

I have 1 question, now the Samsung 32" LED tv only costs only around rm900, why do u guys still opt for Led monitor ya? Any advantages of monitor over tv ?

If you compare the size, Dell 30" monitor has higher resolution than TV.

monitor pixel & tv pixel are different... tv pixel is not suitable for those browsing, text font (Word). U can try. while pc monitor is designed to do the job.

I'm currently using the U2412M, and was thinking to go for something bigger. But guess I'll wait for 30" for upgrade perhaps ;-). Hopefully there will be a cheaper IPS version of the Dell 30" soon.

hello guys..my beloved samsung 931BW (19inches) has past away yestarday. he served me well in the past 5 years..
so..now i would like to ask u guys which led or lcd should i take?

in my mind..there is IN2030M dell and ..ST220L dell..or any other suggestion? budget around 300-400..

if i choose full HD led monitor, is my gpu still support it when i play games?my gpu - xfx9600GT extreme edition ..dont have hdmi slot..

is it ok to choose 21.5" or 20" to play games? thanks..

What is the resolution of your 19" monitor? 1360x768?

1440 x 900..

those who obsessed with 16:9 format can grab u2713hm.
those who obsessed with 16:10 format should wait for led backlight version of u3011, probably u3013hm?

are tv pixels sharper and brighter ?

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Added on August 26, 2012, 8:38 pm1 more question, if I buy a good full Hd monitor and connect to old laptops, windows xp., will the monitor display full Hd quality ?

This post has been edited by cyberkid: Aug 26 2012, 08:38 PM

Your 9600GT will display resolution higher than 1920x1080 iinm because I have 9500GT and it can display those resolution with no problem. But, since you're running high resolution, it may affect your gaming experience.

Yes it will, IF your OLD laptop's graphic adapter supports full HD resolution.

Hey guys i've been loking for a nice 23" moniter for my desktop , i was wondering what should i get at a good budget of Rm 400- 600 , with a few spefications in mind

Able to see the screen at all angles without white screen.
Fast Response time

You're wrong. U2713 comes with AH-IPS panel which is not the same as e-IPS on U2312 and U2412. To call it an entry level isn't right.

decide to go for 24" fullHD Benq G2450 TP LED, think that IPS is overrated.

anyone want to sell LED monitor? need a 2nd hand monitor below RM300. is it possible?

search here

http://forum.lowyat.net/DisplayCards&Monitors

monitor much sharper as it contains more pixel than those tv...but about brighter, i guess tv much brighter

hey guys,

want to ask this. i have purchased this Dell ST2320L LED monitor and will be expecting to arrive today but i have one question here. I noticed that in this picture below, there are 2 plug in. They are audio plug in? So if i hook up my ps3 with HDMI, i can plug in my speaker into the plug in and my speaker got sound after that?

Actually what are the advantages of IPS other than better viewing angles? Sharper image?

LOL my bad, haven researched the panel, only compared the price tag
Anyway, looking at the review shows that it does has potential for graphical usage compared to U2312HM or U2412M, but the input lag might draw some gamers away.
Movies will be nice, since the response time is almost identical to its older sibling, just few ms slower shouldn't be really noticeable.


Viewing angles, yes, sharper image? Erm, what do you mean by sharper image? Or do you mean it has better colour?

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Aug 27 2012, 04:22 PM

IPS has better colour reproduction and viewing angles compared to TN/VA panels.

i have a question...

regarding dell's monitor..

i saw in the website...the price is rm469 for ST320L...and there is stated ..

" the price includes RM72 instant cash redemption"

what does it mean?

thx..


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edit : ok..after i want to check out..the price is RM414...omg..its cheap..now still confused...wanna buy 23 inches or 20 inches..



This post has been edited by donniebrasco: Aug 27 2012, 08:49 PM

Hi, I am planning to do a dual monitor set up...the secondary monitor is gonna be TN panel.
(IPS U2312HM as primary.)
Is there any way for me to just play fps game using secondary mon in fullscreen mode?

Easiest way is to set the monitor you want to play games on as active/primary monitor.
It can be set at the "Screen resolution" control panel once you have both monitor connect and identified.
But if you need something automatic, try the AMD CCC profile, not sure how to set it though.

Bought Dell ST2320L and arrived yesterday. Hooked it up with my ps3 via HDMI and boom!! Far better colour reproduction and better image quality compare to my old monitor with DVI port. lol

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/office/...0CSPLBC/ZA-spec



http://www.samsung.com/ie/consumer/pc-peri...0HBPLBC/EN-spec

Now I very confuse abt the LCD spec.i don't know what is the different abt http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/office/...0CSPLBC/ZA-spec and http://www.samsung.com/ie/consumer/pc-peri...0HBPLBC/EN-spec

PPZ, how's the sound quality output from PS3 ?? Is it ok?

I wonder if ST2320L is good enough for photo editing?? Anyone can update me on this matter?

ASUS launches PB278Q WQHD monitor for pros and gamers that appreciate accurate colors

wow...looks good ya.

Wonder how much does it costs

omg, this monitor so awesome!

i need opinion between the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23 - inch Monitor with LED vs Dell Professional P2312H 23-inch Monitor

which is better... saw that most people would go for the Ultrasharp series... main usage gaming and photo editing..

thanks

Malaysia's market got very limited and pricey IPS monitor..wish to have LG Crossover or Achieva Shimian S-IPS..

You've already know the answer..

bought 2 Dell UltraSharp U2312HM, one on December 2011 another on july 2012

Yea, it looks good. No idea about pricing tho, should be available on september.

Should place competitively against the Dell new model U2713HM, the 24" PA248Q is already RM200+ cheaper than Dell U2410 and has USB3 hub, but lacks of slightly less input (not really big deal).

RM1,5xx before shipping? If it's, it'll be hell of a price tag consider the IPS panel and all the features

Reviews needed...

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Aug 30 2012, 09:03 AM

how bad is 12ms on the Asus IPS on 'entertainment'? 4ms difference compare with the Ultrasharp.

coll will order it shortly... my 17" CRT monitor is acting all weird already.. its been serving me for the last 7~8 years!!

dual monitor setup?
can share the setup photo?


kuman

12ms isn't bad for normal gaming and watching movie, but if you're hardcore FPS gamer, then better choose 120Hz TN panel. Btw, which model are you referring to?

Appreciate the reply.

Nahh, I too same like some other forummers here, being involved in the multimedia industry and needed an essential monitor. Of course, some occasional gaming

The model I'm referring, this one.

oh wait, sorry got confused with the VS series and PA series. VA has 14ms while PA has 6ms.

This post has been edited by s7ran9er: Aug 30 2012, 12:22 PM

i'm not using for dual because i use it in my 2 pcs mostly for authoring videos or producing photo/pictures. Sometimes, do play abit of games. So, i am not really into games. Actually, both of them is good just that ultrasharp series are better abit. TN panel is for gamers, fast speed sacrifies accuracy colours where as IPS panel the other way round

my dell U2713hm just arrived before lunch hour.

balik rumah cepat2 unbox then setup siap2..

here's the drillzzzzz

back





cables



compare with my previous aoc 22"



final setup



This post has been edited by xauxix: Aug 30 2012, 03:33 PM

nice setup you have there.

This post has been edited by fariz: Sep 1 2012, 11:52 AM

Horizontal IPS

H-IPS

2007

Improves[quantify] contrast ratio by twisting electrode plane layout. Also introduces an optional Advanced True White polarizing film from NEC, to make white look more natural[quantify]. This is used in professional/photography LCDs.[citation needed]



Enhanced IPS

E-IPS

2009

Wider[quantify] aperture for light transmission, enabling the use of lower-power, cheaper backlights. Improves[quantify] diagonal viewing angle and further reduce response time to 5ms.[citation needed]



Professional IPS

P-IPS

2010

Offer 1.07 billion colours (30-bit colour depth).[citation needed] More possible orientations per sub-pixel (1024 as opposed to 256) and produces a better[quantify] true colour depth.



Advanced High Performance IPS

AH-IPS

2011

Improved colour accuracy, increased resolution and PPI, and greater light transmission for lower power consumption.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

thanks, its the legendary ikea jerker desk, got from garage sales.

guys have you seen lg ips277l its full hd ips going rm 880 at lelong its also i think the cheapest 27 inch ips led the rest are all 27 inch plain leds. any feedbacks?

Nice set up! Now I also itchy wanna upgrade my U2412M to the 27"... haha >_< mainly for the extra working space for PS and LR.

GUYS.. got a yellow line down across the LCD monitor... does that show my monitor dying?

What type of "weird" problem? Describe in detail. Nowadays CRT monitors have little value (not worth fixing), may as well get a LCD/LED monitor.

If that line stays in the same place all the time including during the BIOS POST screen then its likely a panel problem. How old is that monitor, and is it still under warranty?

hi all, sorry if I post in wrong thread.

windows 8 will be launch very soon, there is many new tablet, AIO desktop and ultrabook already introduce and target to launch together with windows 8. But I do not see any windows 8 certified LCD Monitor. Important criteria are capacitive multi touch screen & bezel-less or edge-2-edge display.

current existing model available locally are only optical touch with regular bezel design like acer, dell or hp. capacitive touch do have from brand like Planar, TRu/TRU-Vu but not popular available in our local dealer.

Anyone or any insider from famous brands like samsung, lg, dell, etc... please share if there is any leaked roadmap for next or next year touch screen LCD monitor if any. I looking for:
1. windows 8 certified
2. below 22"
3. full HD
4. USB hubs
mhl, wireless display or other additional features are optional, nice to have, budget RM2000.

panel more than 4 years... lol...

Brand, model and size? Try tapping on the top frame area of that line, and see if it changes color or more lines appear. You can also try pressing slightly (not too hard) the top area where the line starts from, and see if there are changes...

viewsonic model cant remember now... lol...

no changes...

This post has been edited by firstknight: Sep 2 2012, 06:05 PM

Size? You can check the model number on the label at the back of the monitor...

Does it appear all the time, or just appears after some time? Usually for panel problems, have to replace whole panel. Other than that, have to know how to check for cracks or connection problems at the TCP (tape carrier package) on the panel. Do you know how to do that?

// Edit: See example below...


This post has been edited by lex: Sep 2 2012, 07:20 PM

how long it will take for Dell to ship a monitor like U2312HM to Johor after payment made?

Does the warranty cover internationally? I going to take the monitor to Singapore.

Thanks!

vx2025wm....

it stays on....