If you are not buying an IPS, you are buying the monitor for its design. So, take whatever you want after considering the service/warranty. TN panels are inferior compared to IPS. While this is not a good analogy, IPS is like DVD whereas TN is like CD. Sooner or later IPS will take over TN as a mainstream LCD panel technology.

If you have never seen a hardware-level calibrated IPS panel, take a look and you'd know how much you are missing

ST2220L is a 1080p screen with 0.248 DP
U2312HM is a 1080p screen with 0.265 DP

Ordinary people would tell you that U2312HM is better for the eyes

They are out.

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...s&sku=391-10021


23" Is the real deal, again. 23" comes with close to borderless design. The 24" has a thicker bezel. Already seen, and touched them in person. Available starting Monday

S Series
#1 - Glossy Screen
#2 - No DVI Connection, only HDMI and VGA
#3 - No Height Adjustment
#4 - Slimmer
#5 - Edge to Edge Screen (almost)
#6 - 1ms faster than U series

Other than that, not a whole lot difference. You'd find that the S series has a more fluid and vivid look due to the glossy panel

S series uses IPS panels.

Which monitor? The S Series is just launched today.

Must be direct influence from TFT Central's remarks. The U2312 has a default cd/m of over 200, that's scorching bright. Forgot what's the fL but generally you need to turn it almost all the way down to get it to 140cd/m which is already 20cd/m above usual setting. However, these are monitors with LED technologies, not plasma screens and are not meant to be used in a pitch black environment. Therefore, we shouldn't be too picky about its black level. If customers want a good monitor, the U2x11 series should be purchased instead but that's 2 x the price.

Glossy screen does a lot of funny trick to the brain, not only would it look more vivid, black level also would magically increase, no sarcasm here.

If you don't spit much while talking or gaming (from screaming), do not have a back light in your room, the new S series would look sexier and more vivid (mentally).

If you are a rather tall person and needs to adjust the screen height, and has a back light in your room, then the U series is the better option.

The Glossy S series will have almost all the cons of a plasma screen. You will see back light on the screen due to reflection. But it has a newer design. Think of it as a Macbook Pro (S Series) vs Lenovo Thinkpad (U Series). I user Lenovo Thinkpad and U3011, literally. There's a heck lot more people using Macbook Pro, though.

My FP2002 which is either an MVA or PVA looks nothing like my U3011 IPS regardless of how much calibration you do on them. TN is at the bottom of the chain, its for ppl who don't know much about panel technology or just want a cheap monitor. Its also for those with hyper sensitive eyes that can see ghosting above 7ms

What's the problem with connecting 2 monitors to a laptop? Our Lenovo Thinkpad can power up 3 monitors with the dock.

There'd be some difference with the monitor. You can have them calibrated to as close as possible.

Zero change in quality. It's digital signal. Makes no difference whether you use HDMI, display port, or dvi, or whatever adapter

U2312HM - like a Lenovo
S2340L - like a MacBook

Take your pick

We are comparing think pad and Macbook. Not those consumer ranged lenovo

Nope. Dell EPP sucks now anyway. You can take ARB units if you want

We didn't forget to calibrate yours, you didn't want it calibrated and wanted sealed packaging. However, it doesn't matter. Feel free to bring the monitor to our upcoming office and we will calibrate it for you on the spot. We use a professional colorimeter to take the readings and the calibration is done through hardware level which is independent from GPU and there's no need to load any ICC profile. One can also go into service menu to calibrate the monitor to a much higher accuracy. Dell probably don't check and won't void any warranty but it's an 82% color gamut screen so no need to go down this route

A lot of people don't understand how calibration is done. You can do it by the naked eye through windows and what not, that is obviously inaccurate. Next you can buy DVD/BDs like Disney WOW/DVE/AVIA and etc (heck we have everything), which are usually used for consumers to calibrate TVs and Projectors. They are OK, but don't expect utmost accuracy. Then there is consumer range colorimeter like Spyder and etc, which is also OK, they will calibrate quite accurately. Spyder 2 was a nightmare to use, avoid at all cost. Then there's professional grade meters that cost over RM 1k. And then there's even more professional meters that ISF calibrators use to calibrate TVs and Projectors which apparently looks like a strobe (never gotten to see it).

For consumers and photographers, hardware calibration is more than suffice.

This post has been edited by CyntrixTech: Oct 4 2012, 10:46 PM

The U2312HM does not have accurate color calibration out of the box. The RGB is rather OFF. We have seen some very good samples that need very little changes to get them accurate. Very hard to find them, it depends on the batch. (Of about 200 monitors we have sold and calibrated, we have seen about 6 pieces or so...didn't bother to collect these "golden samples" ) Recently the batch that we have are very accurate. Yours included since you bought yours within 2 weeks time. Even my personal U3011 isn't perfectly accurate out of the box, but it can be calibrated to a very accurate level, much more than U23 or any other 82% screen.

S2340L is a little harder to get accurate calibration. Could be diffraction error from the glossy panel.

That's right. At only 82% color gamut, colors already look much more vivid. On the U3011 and other professional grade IPS screen, many people would first find that the colors to be "inaccurate" because they are too vivid. When I first got my own Ultimate BenQ FP241W back in the days, an upgrade from the "Ultimate gaming screen" Samsung 172x or something, colors look so vivid but after some time you can quickly tell that the Samsung TN panel is garbage in comparison

This post has been edited by CyntrixTech: Oct 4 2012, 10:52 PM

BenQ "made" good monitors but plague with funny issues that were never resolved - FP241W. They've lost a lot of market share since then

Neither of them are really bezel free. The S2340L probably uses the same panel as they OEM many panels from LG

Yes. But more than just what is sharper, the distance between you and the monitor is very important. Not to mention the different experience of viewing two different does screen.

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Added on October 6, 2012, 6:33 pmS2440L but it is a VA panel so

This post has been edited by CyntrixTech: Oct 6 2012, 06:33 PM

The S2440L's bezel is rather thick, about as thick as U2312HM. In terms of panel quality, well it's not an IPS

Well that's like the cheapest 24" Dell monitor that you can get now. There is ST2420L but eh...TN panel

Awesome isn't it? You may drop by our office in the future and we will re-calibrate the monitor for you FOC.

Actually, was hoping that you will spend time listening to the 20 HiVi speakers and buy one of them, so the calibration is no issue

JK

Where's Kevin? Ask him to buy it

Thanks for the recommendation. A quick word on calibration:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=55098956

S23, U23, U24 are excellent monitors for the money. We'd stand by them anytime.

Dell P1911

Been using the s2340l for a few days. Very nice monitor. The good thing about this monitor is that although the bezel isn't invisibly thin, you will spend more time looking at the screen and games without being bothered too much by the frame.

U & S series aren't really better or worse, they are different. Not everybody cares for the features of the monitor. Heck, not many rotate their monitor into pivot mode.