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TSvictorboy
post Oct 8 2005, 08:30 PM, updated 18y ago

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Mates....

There are four famous hdd brand in the market, which hdd brand more reliable, performance, and long life span!

Also, the warrenty start from the date when you purchase or follow the manufacturer date? I checked at the WD website show my hdd left 1 year for warrenty, infact, the hdd i bought just exceeded a year only.

If posted or wrong post, please delete and show me the link.

Thank you!

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post Oct 9 2005, 01:45 AM

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plenty of performance benchmarks here :
http://www.storagereview.com/comparison.html
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post Oct 9 2005, 09:24 AM

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i like my wd800jb
very quiet and fast
used 2 yrs+ no prob
except the stupid annoying "hard to make it detected" prob
i heard seagate got NCQ?maybe it will deserve a future usability----if not wrong vista can use NCQ
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post Oct 9 2005, 11:32 AM

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currently using seagate sata , quiet n cool, 1+ years d... no problem at all thumbup.gif
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post Oct 9 2005, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(fendii @ Oct 9 2005, 01:45 AM)
plenty of performance benchmarks here :
http://www.storagereview.com/comparison.html
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hey mate!!! thanks for the link!!!

I was so affraid there is no one will entertain my thread!!
3 posted, not bad eh!!

thanks again!

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post Oct 9 2005, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(superpc @ Oct 9 2005, 09:24 AM)
i like my wd800jb
very quiet and fast
used 2 yrs+ no prob
except the stupid annoying "hard to make it detected" prob
i heard seagate got NCQ?maybe it will deserve a future usability----if not wrong vista can use NCQ
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QUOTE(Ramirez @ Oct 9 2005, 11:32 AM)
currently using seagate sata , quiet n cool, 1+ years d... no problem at all  thumbup.gif
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wow!!
you guys are so lucky!
the problem with my current hdd was....
i am using WD also, the first one i bought from the shop behind of the sri. it has S.M.A.R.T error just a year only from last year until now. i could managed to backup certain file, however some file has been corrupted.
the WD hdd counldn't last long, so i plan to buy Seagate as alternative choice then follow by Samsung.

good news is my Quantum hdd still function from five years back until now, no bad sector, S.M.A.R.T error and etc. wow, so impressive!!! used it for 5 years already, life span so long.

too bad, no more Quantum but there is Maxtor!!! shakehead.gif

I would like to know, where do i send for warrenty for my WD hdd??!!
also, is the warrenty start from the manufactred date or the date we purchase?
i check on the website it said i still have a year warrenty for the hdd which is next year, and this means the shop sell me old stock?

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post Oct 9 2005, 02:29 PM

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for warranty wise, i would support seagate.
with 5 yrs warranty n a new RMA centre, its a neat touch!
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post Oct 9 2005, 02:33 PM

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my friend's Maxtor HDD had very bad sector problem doh.gif
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post Oct 9 2005, 02:38 PM

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how to check bad sector? i am using seagate and it is nice. hope can switch to SATA
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post Oct 9 2005, 02:50 PM

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using maxtor for 2 years + now, still good
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post Oct 9 2005, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(yuckfou @ Oct 9 2005, 02:29 PM)
for warranty wise, i would support seagate.
with 5 yrs warranty n a new RMA centre, its a neat touch!
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yah!!!...
after since Quantum closed down....
i think alternative hdd will be Seagate!!!
gotto buy one and test it out, see how long is the life span for Seagate hdd.
where is the location for sending the hdd in to Seagate?
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post Oct 9 2005, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 9 2005, 02:33 PM)
my friend's Maxtor HDD had very bad sector problem doh.gif
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haha!!!
used for how many year/s already?

my ex-company newly upgrade the Maxtor hdd, just a year and bad sector pop up! OMG....i can hear the crack sound before the system shutting down and restart!

from that onward, i will never ever buy Maxtor..!! haha!
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post Oct 9 2005, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(6GDominator @ Oct 9 2005, 02:38 PM)
how to check bad sector? i am using seagate and it is nice. hope can switch to SATA
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thorough do scan disk, and can hear the crack sound, then whole system will restart!!
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post Oct 9 2005, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Oct 9 2005, 02:50 PM)
using maxtor for 2 years + now, still good
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wow!!!!!
you are so lucky!!!!
woohoo!!

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post Oct 9 2005, 03:19 PM

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Same here using my maxtor for 2 years and it's still ok, might have been lucky XD

Anyways, my recommended HDD, i know people are sick and tired of hearing this, but it's the WD RAPTOR LOL! Heard they migh be releasing a SATA2 followup or even a 15k RPM one. I stand here waiting laugh.gif
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 9 2005, 03:19 PM)
Same here using my maxtor for 2 years and it's still ok, might have been lucky XD

Anyways, my recommended HDD, i know people are sick and tired of hearing this, but it's the WD RAPTOR LOL! Heard they migh be releasing a SATA2 followup or even a 15k RPM one. I stand here waiting laugh.gif
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aloha empire23! notworthy.gif

heh heh heh!!!!
good news for that, most important things is inside the hdd!!! hope they will improve it. but at least the hdd able to last for 3 years and above.
i bought two WD hdd, and two have problem, thfirst one got S.M.A.R.T error, and another one feeling going to R.I.P or sending for warrenty. that why i bought some DVD+Rs for backking up all my preciours data! shocking.gif

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post Oct 9 2005, 03:27 PM

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I can't believe my Quantum hdd still running!!!!
it's already 5 years old!!!!!
Alamak!!!!
heh heh heh!!! laugh.gif

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laugh.gif i think i may be unlucky, cuz the first day i use my hdd also can't boot, install os adi then normally have basic setup right? b4 can go there then hang forever... shakehead.gif

now i'm using seagate sata, no problems until recently... i think re-format too many times adi so maybe spoil.. sometime for no reason auto-restart pc... blink.gif
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post Oct 9 2005, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Oct 9 2005, 04:39 PM)
laugh.gif i think i may be unlucky, cuz the first day i use my hdd also can't boot, install os adi then normally have basic setup right? b4 can go there then hang forever...  shakehead.gif

now i'm using seagate sata, no problems until recently... i think re-format too many times adi so maybe spoil.. sometime for no reason auto-restart pc...  blink.gif
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before auto restart got crack sound? if yes, maybe contain bad sector!!!!

oh yah!!!
those hdd wrapped with the anti-static plastic consider a OEM or what?
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nope... just suddenly *poof* auto restart shakehead.gif
no laa... hdd where got OEM wan? laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2005, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(-vip3rleon9- @ Oct 9 2005, 05:11 PM)
nope... just suddenly *poof* auto restart shakehead.gif
no laa... hdd where got OEM wan? laugh.gif
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alamak!
*poof* suddently....maybe hdd going to be....erm...!!

haha!!!!!! just wonder only!!!!!
if i am not mistaken, long time ago they provided with box right!!?? hmmm!!
heh heh!!! laugh.gif

but why this day of the hdd quality and unreliable?!
my Quantum hdd still working compare with the 1 year old WD....!!!

nevertheless, i have to buy larger hdd space for storing my data temp. before burned into DVD+R/s.

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Depends on the drives you buy, for high reliablity, i suggest using WD's RAID edition and Raptor series, for Maxtor, it seems their MAXLine is good choice and Seagate's normal drives are good too.

Try looking at the MTBF rating of a drive before buying it.
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well, as I'm a user here, lemme share my experience......dun ever, ever get maxtor......at all cost, juz avoid it....Western Digital, Seagate and Samsung are good HDD's....so do consider urself....WD Raptors are fast, Seagate Barracuda's are fast and a lot more
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*poof* suddently....maybe hdd going to be....erm...!!

haha!!!!!! just wonder only!!!!!
if i am not mistaken, long time ago they provided with box right!!?? hmmm!!
heh heh!!! 

but why this day of the hdd quality and unreliable?!
my Quantum hdd still working compare with the 1 year old WD....!!!

nevertheless, i have to buy larger hdd space for storing my data temp. before burned into DVD+R/s.


yeah i think so too, so i'm thinking if i should buy another hdd... unsure.gif
ah.. come with box a? dunno le... sweat.gif cuz i just got interested in this stuff like, starting of year 2005 only.. laugh.gif that's why i'm still a newb.. biggrin.gif

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well, as I'm a user here, lemme share my experience......dun ever, ever get maxtor......at all cost, juz avoid it....Western Digital, Seagate and Samsung are good HDD's....so do consider urself....WD Raptors are fast, Seagate Barracuda's are fast and a lot more


^ well... i back him up 100%... first day got adi then spoil... shakehead.gif
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im still using maxtor 7200rpm..
use since 2001 until now...
no bad sector..
no prob..

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Yeap... Almost 3 years edi and my Maxtor 40 GB is still serving me well... It's just that the maxtor hdd gets hot pretty quickly as for 40GB that time, it was quick a thin hdd...

Anyways, I think sometimes it depends on luck, I bought a WD1600 last year to use it as an ext hdd, I am not sure whether it's my hdd's problem or the ext casing power supply, the hdd now once in a while will emit some "tick tick" sound...

Got another WD2500 and using it as another ext hdd... It's working fine until today... though I must admit I just got this hdd for like,4 month... smile.gif
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using maxtor currently serve me well without any problems
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using 120gig WD external 7200rpm..nothing happen...but my laptop toshiba 30gig have bad sector...[asi post in my BSOD thread..sad.gif ]

Got a 320gig WD 3.5" [external] and a 60gig samsung 2.5" hdd....the seller said samsung is the best "boyz" for laptop n the WD is the best among others in desktop hdd...what u guys reckon??


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maxtor some good some bad... depends on your luck lor... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 9 2005, 07:28 PM)
Depends on the drives you buy, for high reliablity, i suggest using WD's RAID edition and Raptor series, for Maxtor, it seems their MAXLine is good choice and Seagate's normal drives are good too.

Try looking at the MTBF rating of a drive before buying it.
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MTBF = for mean time between failures.
I never think of this term before purchasing hdd, OMG! haha!!!

Thanks empire23!! notworthy.gif

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I just found this side using the google search!!
Quite interesting!!

Overall Reliability : MTBF & APR
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hdd in a box ? when i bought my maxtor hdd 3 years back it came in abox(its still working).. but dunno how come today all come in anti static bags only ... lol
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Oct 10 2005, 01:06 AM)
hdd in a box ? when i bought my maxtor hdd 3 years back it came in abox(its still working).. but dunno how come today all come in anti static bags only ... lol
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cost saving or maybe it would be an OEM version!!!!!
dunno haha!!!
yah, last time Maxtor did provided and store inside the box, and my Quantum hdd, store in hard transparent plastic with anti static bag, if i am not mistaken!

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OMG!!!!
so far i lost several CAD files, important, but no choice cannot copied and to be moved and 1 single chapter of anime....

i try to copy the error message see anyone can help me this or not, else, i have to regain the file again.

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Ok here is the message i got from my WD80 PATA harddisk!!!!


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Error copying file or folder

cannot copy (file name) : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).



anyone got any ideas of solving above error, else, i think i have to format that partition and delete the file as well.

erm..hehe...
a minor technical help from me in this thread!

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 10 2005, 01:30 AM)
cost saving or maybe it would be an OEM version!!!!!
dunno haha!!!
yah, last time Maxtor did provided and store inside the box, and my Quantum hdd, store in hard transparent plastic with anti static bag, if i am not mistaken!

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i couldn` care less oem or not as long it does not rosak and everything hilang is good enough already ... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Oct 10 2005, 02:05 AM)
i couldn` care less oem or not as long it does not  rosak and everything hilang  is good enough already ... tongue.gif
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That's the point haha!!!
my ex-WD , 80g, 1 year old, hdd has S.M.A.R.T error, and lost some of my important data!! But manage to back up 80% of the data, better than nothing. I say 80% because come file unable to copied, data lock, and some corrupted eventhough sucessfully backup.

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 10 2005, 01:50 AM)
Ok here is the message i got from my WD80 PATA harddisk!!!!
anyone got any ideas of solving above error, else, i think i have to format that partition and delete the file as well.

erm..hehe...
a minor technical help from me in this thread!

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Hmmm, suggest you boot up in DOS and try to copy it to another HDD. Either that or doing a low level format, although personally i'd junk the HDD and get one of those sweet high reliability disks.
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IMO, Maxtor are VERY unreliable....had one maxtor 40GB 5400rpm died on me erly dis year....warranty period was over....n another maxtor SATA died on my other computer within a year after pruchase...

apparently i am currently using a Maxtor 120GB according to my sig...hope it wont fail me anytime soon....my suggestion, u can get any other brand besides maxtor...WD proved to be pretty reliable...
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hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 10 2005, 10:55 AM)
hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler. cry.gif i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.


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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:36 PM)
i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.
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used it only 6mths or so before it conked. and i was using it very sparingly too, just used it to store the os and apps only. temp directory and swap file was set to another disk. i also avoid p2p on this disk and instead use my maxtor. yet it still conked.....

so dont worry, like i say, its mostly luck of the draw. just make sure you have some sort of backup plan in place.... smile.gif
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WD used to have a bad reputation, but seemed to have built itself up in a short amount of time
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 10 2005, 10:24 AM)
Hmmm, suggest you boot up in DOS and try to copy it to another HDD. Either that or doing a low level format, although personally i'd junk the HDD and get one of those sweet high reliability disks.
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hmmm.....
dunno why this happen!!!
can't copy in the normal mode....
but i have formatted the partition....
the status said the hdd healthy... sweat.gif
i think this happen during my another hdd S.M.A.R.T error....
when that happen, i quickly buy a new hdd and copy the file in that particular hdd to new one!!

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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Oct 10 2005, 10:44 AM)
IMO, Maxtor are VERY unreliable....had one maxtor 40GB 5400rpm died on me erly dis year....warranty period was over....n another maxtor SATA died on my other computer within a year after pruchase...

apparently i am currently using a Maxtor 120GB according to my sig...hope it wont fail me anytime soon....my suggestion, u can get any other brand besides maxtor...WD proved to be pretty reliable...
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hey you are right....
last time i use Maxtor, almost a year the bad sector say hello to me!! OMG!!

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haha!!!
true, there are three brand hdd in the market, WD, Seagate and Samsung...

oh yah, i got another 40g WD hdd with which i am using now, it's already used for 3 years already, and working fine...
only my newly bough from last year, 80g WD hdd, almost a years S.M.A.R.T error!...manage to backup some 85% of the files, and most of the file has been corrupted..
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Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 10 2005, 10:55 AM)
hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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how come!!!!!
which show you buy!!!
the one i bought has S.M.A.R.T error, i suspect they sell old stock haha!! sweat.gif

* about the RMA, should we follow the date stated in the hdd company website or base on the date we purchase?
also, WD offer how many years warrenty, Seagate offered 5 years, what about Samsung?


QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 01:03 PM)
wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler.  cry.gif  i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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hey you!!!...the DVD+R seller!!
hahaha!!!
you better spend some money to save all your data into DVD+R or other media for backup....can't depend on a single hdd, like me, once S.M.A.R.T error then i have to say bye bye data and hello new hdd!!! cry.gif
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well, Maxtor is not a good brand since last year. In January, when I 1st got my sata, was so happy, my 1st hdd bought by myself, after I install OS, crap, the whole thing crash, den go RMA, come back, still got same problem. Sent it again, when I got it back this time, was working well, but can hear some tic-tic sound during heavy loading
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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:36 PM)
i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.
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hey speaking about Quantum!!
that was really good!!!! very reliable and longer life span than other brands hdd...
hehe!..i am using one of it now, still running now, already usign it for 5 years, bought since year..hey no no..i bought it since year 1999 during my college time haha!!!! 6 years already!!!!....woohoo!! let's party!! however the capacity only got 20g....can store much data!
how come!!!! those good brand either been taken by other company or closed down!! like 3DFX, i owned voodoo 5500..hehe!!!


QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 05:39 PM)
ur wd which kong had been using how long? i takut mine kong nanti.
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 10 2005, 05:58 PM)
WD used to have a bad reputation, but seemed to have built itself up in a short amount of time
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hey again!!!
you better backup to your DVD+R media or additional hdd...
else...bye bye data and hello to buy a new hdd!! too bad, data gone...haha sweat.gif
my friend told me, WD exist very long time, but how come they can made a reliable hdd, at least can last for 3 or more years!!!! in long operation....!!!
how come...how come..! can expect we buy new hdd each year, if the hdd spoil!!

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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:47 PM)
used it only 6mths or so before it conked. and i was using it very sparingly too, just used it to store the os and apps only. temp directory and swap file was set to another disk. i also avoid p2p on this disk and instead use my maxtor. yet it still conked.....

so dont worry, like i say, its mostly luck of the draw. just make sure you have some sort of backup plan in place.... smile.gif
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must spend more money to back up thsoe data in hdd and also other media such as DVD+R...!!
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QUOTE(saizo @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif
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hey you!!!
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alamak!....
how long you are using the 200g WD hdd!!!??
data very precious....must backup!!
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 10 2005, 07:43 PM)
well, Maxtor is not a good brand since last year. In January, when I 1st got my sata, was so happy, my 1st hdd bought by myself, after I install OS, crap, the whole thing crash, den go RMA, come back, still got same problem. Sent it again, when I got it back this time, was working well, but can hear some  tic-tic sound during heavy loading
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hahaha!!!
dangerous...better backup to other media, like DVD+R or something!!
tick tick tick..!!! worried!!
Maxtor bought over the Quantum, and why can't they use Quantum technology to produce a ood hdd??!! hehe!! sweat.gif
nothing is long lasting, as i said, at least can last for several yeas not month/s or a year!!...

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Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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hey!! haha!!!
IBM eh!!....
wow, PSU will cause hdd bad sector?!...OMG!!!...i'm usig icute hope will cause any damage!!
why PSU will cause damage hdd??!! wonder why!!!
what about using external hdd case?

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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IBM? they sold their entire hard drive division to Hitachi in 2003--either because they find they cant earn too much** from HDD OR due to the infamous 75GXP.

**Conner brought over by Seagate, Micropolis close down in 1997, Quantum sold its hard drive division to Maxtor, Fujitsu exited the mass market in 2001 only make specialist notebook and SCSI drives, Toshiba make only 2.5-inch and 1.8-inch notebook drives.....this is not a easy market to survive.

as for which brand make good harddisk--i own over 10pc of IBM/Hitachi HDD, only one each for seagate, WD and Maxtor--you know what i'm gonna recommend.

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IBM and Hitachi also makes good HDD, a forumer uglyvamp uses Hitachi for his Raid setup, and its just sweet
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QUOTE(limcc @ Oct 11 2005, 09:24 PM)
IBM? they sold their entire hard drive division to Hitachi in 2003--either because they find they cant earn too much** from HDD OR due to the infamous 75GXP.

**Conner brought over by Seagate, Micropolis close down in 1997, Quantum sold its hard drive division to Maxtor, Fujitsu exited the mass market in 2001 only make specialist notebook and SCSI drives, Toshiba make only 2.5-inch and 1.8-inch notebook drives.....this is not a easy market to survive.

as for which brand make good harddisk--i own over 10pc of IBM/Hitachi HDD, only one each for seagate, WD and Maxtor--you know what i'm gonna recommend.
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 11 2005, 09:41 PM)
IBM and Hitachi also makes good HDD, a forumer uglyvamp uses Hitachi for his Raid setup, and its just sweet
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haha!!!!
really??!!
how was the performance and reliability??!! used for how long already?!!
i seldom see peopel hitachi hdd these day!!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 01:03 PM)
wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler.  cry.gif  i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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28k of bad sector. but the RMA took only about 1 week time. relief. and the good thing is that they RMAed a SATA 300mb/s replacing the SATA 150mb/s (transfer rate).

hrmm... the reason i opt for WD is because of its speed, according to some sellers in LYP. and comparing to seagate with NCQ, i still feel that WD is faster.

i know i should't totally believe in sellers intro, but i did, and i didn't regret.

the WD 120g and WD 200g is still running well. never experience any data loss before.

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
how come!!!!!
which show you buy!!!
the one i bought has S.M.A.R.T error, i suspect they sell old stock haha!!  sweat.gif

* about the RMA, should we follow the date stated in the hdd company website or base on the date we purchase?
also, WD offer how many years warrenty, Seagate offered 5 years, what about Samsung?
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hrmm... if i'm not mistaken, WD offers 3 years of warranty while seagate offers 5 years. that's the draw back. samsung i'm not quite sure.

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 11 2005, 10:23 PM)
hrmm... if i'm not mistaken, WD offers 3 years of warranty while seagate offers 5 years. that's the draw back. samsung i'm not quite sure.
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hey oh my goodness!!! haha!!!
alamak!!
what??! WD offered 3 years only??!!
i thought they offered 5 years as well??!!

below were WD official website, it said 5 years warrenty for the SATA, but not sure included other drives or not...

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=158
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those who use WD hdd...
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hmm i think i need to use this to diagnose my hdd sweat.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 11 2005, 10:40 PM)
hey oh my goodness!!! haha!!!
alamak!!
what??! WD offered 3 years only??!!
i thought they offered 5 years as well??!!

below were WD official website, it said 5 years warrenty for the SATA, but not sure included other drives or not...

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=158
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i bought WD sata2 hdd,hope it is 5 years warranty....

i want to buy seagate hdd at first but it is a bit expensive & my budget is limited,so go for WD,dosn't dare to use Maxtor because many people say it is a lousy hdd......
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using samsung and WD both oso nice but...for samsung only use it for 3 months.....then WD oledi 2 yrs la...so far...no problem and quiet~
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QUOTE(saizo @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif
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pls specified ur size, how long u had bought them? cry.gif

QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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hitachi if u want, i can order for u but 40gb cost u around RM4xx. doh.gif

victorboy
samsung hdd is 3yr warranty.

seemlike WD is also almost like maxtor got high failure rate too. shakehead.gif
dun trust seagate coz my frens all had spoilt 4 pcs seagate 80gb liao. mad.gif
i kena *** kao kao coz i recomend them seagate.
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QUOTE(rebelsoul76 @ Oct 13 2005, 04:37 PM)
so far I recommend Seagate to my frens and clients. no problem/complain at all
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the seagate usually occured after 1 yr or 11 months.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 13 2005, 04:13 PM)
pls specified ur size, how long u had bought them?  cry.gif
hitachi if u want, i can order for u but 40gb cost u around RM4xx.  doh.gif

victorboy
samsung hdd is 3yr warranty.

seemlike WD is also almost like maxtor got high failure rate too.  shakehead.gif
dun trust seagate coz my frens all had spoilt 4 pcs seagate 80gb liao.  mad.gif
i kena *** kao kao coz i recomend them seagate.
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wow!!!...
thanks for your info...
I don't why nowaday hdd so easy to get errors. why can't they improve it...hmmm..
should i try Seagate and Samsung?!.....
i hope the hdd should last for 3 years and above running in 24/7 sweat.gif
it is possible the product made in china? therefore the quality and reliability are just so so only. sweat.gif
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first i'd like to say that i have bad bad bad experiences with ALL the three big names of harddisks.... MAXTOR, WD AND SEAGATE. im starting to think that im the HD killer biggrin.gif

let me elaborate....

1. MAXTOR 200GB PATA
- bought it for my ext casing. formatted it, put my music (10GB) in it....after 5secs.. *poof* harddisk unrecognized. first time lucky...i copied my data.
- 2nd time reformat...CUT and PASTE all my music and data... about 60GB worth...after 2minutes... *poof* again! sob sob sob...
- tried all possible methods but my data was gone...FOREVER and EVER.
- hit LYP next week to change for a WD 200GB. that was the last of my Maxtor 200GB.

2. WD 200GB PATA (replacement for MAXTOR 200GB)
- unlucky me....harddisk casing failure...causing my WD to have a power failure and had them go through warranty.
- 150GB data kaboom in the destruction... SOB SOB SOB SOB...
- (though not a hd failure, still was a BAD experience)

3. Seagate 120GB SATA (internal)
- using for 2yrs++. still working
- no problems whatsoever until lately... HD spun 4times slower with occasional clicking sounds.
- thought was bad sectors... used Seagate Seatools to diagnose...no bad sectors.
- problem detected by Seatools --> FILE SYSTEM ERROR... WTF?? NTFS index system (or some sort) has some error...
- backed up all my data...albeit a 4x longer transfer time...(3hours for 40GB imagine that!)
- reformatted
- working fine now...

So you see...im kinda paranoid now.... esp about harddisks...

And fyi...my hd are kept far away from my sub or speakers so they're not in any sort of magnetic field or such. As for now... my WD 200GB and Seagate 120GB are holding up...

As for GOOD harddisks, i think the better ones of the 3 is Seagate and also Western Digital. i dont believe in THE BEST harddisk...cos to me...there isnt any biggrin.gif

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You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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does the PSU have an effect on the HD?
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM)
You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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i am also of the opinion that chapalang PSU would definitely shorten the life of any HDD's. power fluctuation/ inconsistent current..... is probably the culprit.

hmmm.... but i wuz wondering. my psu is a 370W enermax. izzit ok to connect 2 hdds to a single power connector?? i getting worried now...... unsure.gif





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erm... i'm noob.
i heard that eventhough seagate have 5 years warranty.. maxtor's performance is better than seagate wo...
correct me if i'm wrong.. (again, i'm noob >.<)
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the maxtor is an untrustly HDD brand lah. i & my customer kena too many since yr2000.

jinXxxx
wat brand is tat casing? we will coount on tat casing model then.


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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 13 2005, 08:25 PM)
first i'd like to say that i have bad bad bad experiences with ALL the three big names of harddisks.... MAXTOR, WD AND SEAGATE. im starting to think that im the HD killer biggrin.gif

let me elaborate....

1. MAXTOR 200GB PATA
- bought it for my ext casing. formatted it, put my music (10GB) in it....after 5secs.. *poof* harddisk unrecognized. first time lucky...i copied my data.
- 2nd time reformat...CUT and PASTE all my music and data... about 60GB worth...after 2minutes... *poof* again! sob sob sob...
- tried all possible methods but my data was gone...FOREVER and EVER.
- hit LYP next week to change for a WD 200GB. that was the last of my Maxtor 200GB.

2. WD 200GB PATA (replacement for MAXTOR 200GB)
- unlucky me....harddisk casing failure...causing my WD to have a power failure and had them go through warranty.
- 150GB data kaboom in the destruction... SOB SOB SOB SOB...
- (though not a hd failure, still was a BAD experience)

3. Seagate 120GB SATA (internal)
- using for 2yrs++. still working
- no problems whatsoever until lately... HD spun 4times slower with occasional clicking sounds.
- thought was bad sectors... used Seagate Seatools to diagnose...no bad sectors.
- problem detected by Seatools --> FILE SYSTEM ERROR... WTF?? NTFS index system (or some sort) has some error...
- backed up all my data...albeit a 4x longer transfer time...(3hours for 40GB imagine that!)
- reformatted
- working fine now...

So you see...im kinda paranoid now.... esp about harddisks...

And fyi...my hd are kept far away from my sub or speakers so they're not in any sort of magnetic field or such. As for now... my WD 200GB and Seagate 120GB are holding up...

As for GOOD harddisks, i think the better ones of the 3 is Seagate and also Western Digital. i dont believe in THE BEST harddisk...cos to me...there isnt any biggrin.gif
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wow!!!
Maxtor hdd always not reliable...how come....haha!!
i think the new version of Seagate hdd has improved, shouldn't be any problem like past time...maybe the new hdd i will go for Seagate and try it out...
data lost is a major problems, man, i lost tons of data due to my previous WD hdd failure. cry.gif
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM)
You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 13 2005, 11:05 PM)
ceo684...were you refering to me?

does the PSU have an effect on the HD?
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QUOTE(nuodi @ Oct 13 2005, 11:39 PM)
i am also of the opinion that chapalang PSU would definitely shorten the life of any HDD's.  power fluctuation/ inconsistent current..... is probably the culprit.

hmmm.... but i wuz wondering. my psu is a 370W enermax. izzit ok to connect 2 hdds to a single power connector??  i getting worried now......  unsure.gif
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chapalang hdd will cause hdd failure and shorten the life of th hdd??!!
how? is it because insufficient of power? or what....i wonder...

QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 14 2005, 03:07 AM)
erm... i'm noob.
i heard that eventhough seagate have 5 years warranty.. maxtor's performance is better than seagate wo...
correct me if i'm wrong.. (again, i'm noob >.<)
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why i never heard any people here talk about SAMSUNg ar ?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 14 2005, 10:41 AM)
i think Samsugn recently start selling their hdd is it?? haha!!
needs Samsung hdd user comment/s...hehe!!!
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samsung also dun think is reliable as my fren work in samsung rma center inform me.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 14 2005, 12:47 PM)
samsung also dun think is reliable as my fren work in samsung rma center inform me.
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Oct 14 2005, 12:56 PM)
o no...internal informer info always true le...cham la like this~i pay xtra rm20 to get the samsung sp1614...now the truth is i m not get the best one...bloody hell~
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but recently samsung seem like ok liao, but still need wait 8 month to confirm again.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 14 2005, 12:47 PM)
samsung also dun think is reliable as my fren work in samsung rma center inform me.
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Oct 14 2005, 12:56 PM)
o no...internal informer info always true le...cham la like this~i pay xtra rm20 to get the samsung sp1614...now the truth is i m not get the best one...bloody hell~
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 14 2005, 01:04 PM)
but recently samsung seem like ok liao, but still need wait 8 month to confirm again.
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hey thanks for your info again!!!hahaha!!!
No choice, there is two option, one is WD and another alternative hdd is Seagate....
oh ya, may i know where is the location sending my hdd in for RMA?! both WD and Seagate. But i got one Wd hdd wanna to send for RMA...just wanna to know the location.
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now china review show tat hitachi is recomend buy since it QC is stable & higher.

最超值的80GB S-ATA硬盘

在日立硬盘中,最受消费者欢迎的要属其7K250系列的硬盘了,该系列硬盘已高性能高稳定性赢得了人们欢迎。并且和其他品牌硬盘相比,7K250的电路板上多了一块控制芯片,这是因为日立将数据处理芯片和命令控制芯片独立分开,使之工作的效率更高,处理性能更好。

http://news.onlinedown.net/info/16170-1.htm
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my casing?

WD hd failure i am holding my external casing at fault. its a Sarotech Aluminium casing.

as for the internal HDD, its powered by iCute.

i dont think the PSU has got much to do with HDD failures. if the PSU gives out enough juice to support all the PC parts, it should not be a problem. thats my opinion biggrin.gif
hope someone can clarify.
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didn't u notice that I did mention about samsung spinpoint HDD's
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didn't u notice that I did mention about samsung spinpoint HDD's
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haha...sorry bro. i din notice it tongue.gif so far i only see ppl keep complaining Maxtor HDD whistling.gif btw im using WD HDD but will "dead" soon cos its operating noise getting louder and sometimes it will "break" (click sound). And i use Maxtor HDD for 3 years......lucky me got "good" Maxtor HDD tongue.gif
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WD RMA location somewhere in Pj...i forgot where alredi...but it's NOT the Western D you see from LDP. I think WD is the best and it's usually cheaper...
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 14 2005, 04:56 PM)
now china review show tat hitachi is recomend buy since it QC is stable & higher.

最超值的80GB S-ATA硬盘

    在日立硬盘中,最受消费者欢迎的要属其7K250系列的硬盘了,该系列硬盘已高性能高稳定性赢得了人们欢迎。并且和其他品牌硬盘相比,7K250的电路板上多了一块控制芯片,这是因为日立将数据处理芯片和命令控制芯片独立分开,使之工作的效率更高,处理性能更好。

http://news.onlinedown.net/info/16170-1.htm
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interesting....
hmmm the news reliable or not??!! heh heh! kidding...
but, hitachi brands also reliable, and my old hitachi radio cassette player still running without sending for RMA haha!!
I thinkt hey really, really put alots effort (QC) in their hdd and to distribute to the consumer with full satisfaction...

QUOTE(kar2on @ Oct 15 2005, 01:12 AM)
WD RMA location somewhere in Pj...i forgot where alredi...but it's NOT the Western D you see from LDP.  I think WD is the best and it's usually cheaper...
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PJ, i am not sure whether is that building or not. but i think i am going there to ask about RMA.

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some problem about harddisk deframenter ........

my harddisk brand is seagate , and the capacity is 80GB..

my harddisk was divided to three part...
i m face the problem of my pc FAT32 file system can't t transact deframent...
but other one on the NTFS file system no porblem for deframent...

what is the problem for my harddisk ???


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erm now i'm getting a new harddisc.. budget below 300 bucks.. i don't know much about harddisc.. so which do u guys recommend??
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i forgot to say.. 160gb should be enough.
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Seagate's 160GB SATA HDD is around RM300..
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 14 2005, 09:00 PM)
my casing?

WD hd failure i am holding my external casing at fault. its a Sarotech Aluminium casing.

as for the internal HDD, its powered by iCute.

i dont think the PSU has got much to do with HDD failures. if the PSU gives out enough juice to support all the PC parts, it should not be a problem. thats my opinion biggrin.gif
hope someone can clarify.
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Voltage fluctuation is also bad for the HDD. And obviously a icute psu isnt the best thing ever in the PSU market. For 12V, mana tau the PSU is actually giving a continuous wave of 10-14V? laugh.gif

Just like putting yourself on a vibrating chair vs a nice stable chair..
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QUOTE(bbng @ Oct 15 2005, 02:34 AM)
some problem about harddisk deframenter ........

my harddisk brand is seagate , and the capacity is 80GB..
 
my harddisk was divided to three part...
i m face the problem of my pc FAT32 file system can't t transact deframent...
but other one on the NTFS file system no porblem for deframent...
 
what is the problem for my harddisk ???
 

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Not enough free space isit?
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 16 2005, 12:11 AM)
Not enough free space isit?
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yup...

how can i do for FAT32 file system ??
can i directly change it to NTFS file system ???
thanks !!
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so got any conclusion? so far i see maxtor got many complaints.... WD not really much... Seagate kena praised and giving 5 years warranty(damn) and samsung not much ppl talk about it. My father going to KL 2molo so i might ask him to get me a 200gb hard disk. So Seagate or WD is better?
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I can conclude through my own experiences

DO NOT GET MAXTOR. MAXTOR, DATA KILLAS

get WD, Seagate, Hitachi and Samsung, these are some good brands
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 16 2005, 07:25 PM)
so got any conclusion? so far i see maxtor got many complaints.... WD not really much... Seagate kena praised and giving 5 years warranty(damn) and samsung not much ppl talk about it. My father going to KL 2molo so i might ask him to get me a 200gb hard disk. So Seagate or WD is better?
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try Seagate then later tell us the reliability and performance...
hehe!!

well, i'm also need to purchase additional hdd for my own use...
too many data to store, i think i will give it a try for Seagate!!

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Try any brand HDD just try to avoid from Maxtor.Seagate user here also,quite satisfied with my Seagate HDD.Already use for 4 years with excellent condition.
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QUOTE(Hornet012 @ Oct 15 2005, 12:57 AM)
haha...sorry bro. i din notice it tongue.gif so far i only see ppl keep complaining Maxtor HDD  whistling.gif  btw im using WD HDD but will "dead" soon cos its operating noise getting louder and sometimes it will "break" (click sound). And i use Maxtor HDD for 3 years......lucky me got "good" Maxtor HDD  tongue.gif
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WD memang make worry ler.

QUOTE(bbng @ Oct 15 2005, 02:34 AM)
some problem about harddisk deframenter ........

my harddisk brand is seagate , and the capacity is 80GB..
 
my harddisk was divided to three part...
i m face the problem of my pc FAT32 file system can't t transact deframent...
but other one on the NTFS file system no porblem for deframent...
 
what is the problem for my harddisk ???
 

    sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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do a full format after delete all 3 prt?

QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 15 2005, 05:36 PM)
erm now i'm getting a new harddisc.. budget below 300 bucks.. i don't know much about harddisc.. so which do u guys recommend??
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dun go for maxtor & seagte.also WD.

QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 15 2005, 05:38 PM)
i forgot to say.. 160gb should be enough.
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got you loud and clear ceo684.

one thing interesting for you guys to note, now my OS doesnt seem to let me format any of my HDD to FAT32 anymore. unless i reformat the PC and format the partition straight to FAT32, i cant convert any of them to FAT32.
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 17 2005, 01:15 PM)
got you loud and clear ceo684.

one thing interesting for you guys to note, now my OS doesnt seem to let me format any of my HDD to FAT32 anymore. unless i reformat the PC and format the partition straight to FAT32, i cant convert any of them to FAT32.
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hey...have u guys ever think about heat generate from HDD ? would it be the factor cause it to be failure ? or program like PnP software (BT, Kazaa etc...) if it really do then i think my WD problem probably because of BT. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Hornet012 @ Oct 18 2005, 04:21 PM)
hey...have u guys ever think about heat generate from HDD ? would it be the factor cause it to be failure ? or program like PnP software (BT, Kazaa etc...) if it really do then i think my WD problem probably because of BT.  sweat.gif
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sorry as that time my fren fail 4 biji seagate 80gb pun he hadnt got streamyx also. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 18 2005, 04:27 PM)
sorry as that time my fren fail 4 biji seagate 80gb pun he hadnt got streamyx also. sweat.gif
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well......i did "melt" my seagate HDD with norton before tongue.gif .....luckyly its under warranty period. BTW at that time is 486 era....should be 7-8 years ago. Thats y i didnt use Seagate until now sweat.gif
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Using a seagate currently, so far no problem after i installed a cooling fan for it.

Computer hang a few times before coz' of downloading with Streamyx. tongue.gif The hangs are caused by overheated HDD.

After install cooling fan for the HDD, problem solved liaow.. thumbup.gif
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my father bought 160gb pata seaget hard disk... hope it wont disappoint me..
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I'm sure it won't, Seagate HDD are very well favored among enthusiasts and it is a good HDD, have personal experience with it
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 18 2005, 08:25 PM)
my father bought 160gb pata seaget hard disk... hope it wont disappoint me..
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haha!!!
good luck!!!
if this thread didn't close...
please share your opinion and experience here!!

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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 18 2005, 08:56 PM)
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I'm sure it won't, Seagate HDD are very well favored among enthusiasts and it is a good HDD, have personal experience with it
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we know electronic part is wear and tear, but at least can last for several years.
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hrmm.... anyone knows what reliable cooling setup for HDD?
very curious on it cause heat is really an issue in every electronic stuff..
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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 19 2005, 12:50 AM)
hrmm.... anyone knows what reliable cooling setup for HDD?
very curious on it cause heat is really an issue in every electronic stuff..
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for me i just leave 1 slot space between 2 HDD. Should be alright.....BTW my casing installed 6 fans (4 in front and 2 back) and 1 is WD 5400rpm and Maxtor 7200rpm. Heat its not an issue for me thumbup.gif but BT might "kill" my WD HDD soon sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 16 2005, 10:52 PM)
I can conclude through my own experiences

DO NOT GET MAXTOR. MAXTOR, DATA KILLAS

get WD, Seagate, Hitachi and Samsung, these are some good brands
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My 40GB maxtor Diamond 5400RPM is still running although it's motor is abit noisier nowdays.Very rarely I see it kaput.
Western Digital's life is shorter than others.
Hitachi for notebooks is abit fragile but most of the time can be revived back using Hitachi's low level format...haven't seen Hitachi for desktop hard disk.But I am using a IBM Deskstar 7200RPM, it's noisy on seeking, but still running.
Seagate is good, quiet and fast.
Samsung..so far my friend using on his PIII,day 1 until today, no problem.

QUOTE(Hornet012 @ Oct 19 2005, 03:02 AM)
for me i just leave 1 slot space between 2 HDD. Should be alright.....BTW my casing installed 6 fans (4 in front and 2 back) and 1 is WD 5400rpm and Maxtor 7200rpm. Heat its not an issue for me  thumbup.gif but BT might "kill" my WD HDD soon  sweat.gif
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Coicendentally, I did that also. Then I place my floppy disk drive in the lowest empty CDROM bay and leave the hole (existing floppy drive) for the air to come in, and add a fan to draw in cool air to cool my babies.

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 11 2005, 10:18 PM)
28k of bad sector. but the RMA took only about 1 week time. relief. and the good thing is that they RMAed a SATA 300mb/s replacing the SATA 150mb/s (transfer rate).

hrmm... the reason i opt for WD is because of its speed, according to some sellers in LYP. and comparing to seagate with NCQ, i still feel that WD is faster.

i know i should't totally believe in sellers intro, but i did, and i didn't regret.

the WD 120g and WD 200g is still running well. never experience any data loss before.
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how u know u got bad sector? scan in dos mode?
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how u know u got bad sector? scan in dos mode?
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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Oct 19 2005, 08:22 AM)
Coicendentally, I did that also. Then I place my floppy disk drive in the lowest empty CDROM bay and leave the hole (existing floppy drive) for the air to come in, and add a fan to draw in cool air to cool my babies.
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hrmm.... i won't opt to leave a 'hole' there although we know air will go in but dust too. when too much of dust 'collected', then the pc will become hot and crashes will occur. besides, the air ventilation inside the pc is disturbed.

just my 2 cent
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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 19 2005, 01:49 PM)
nope... i scanned it using another pc. and the answer pop up. once i slot in the HDD, windows straight away scanned it.
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so wat windows ur fen using until can start scan it?
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last month i bought a seagate 160 sata wiv ncq at viewnet pc shop. everything work great until yesterday when i on my pc a SMART error message came out... i continue to boot into window..scandisk..no bad sector..everything normal... try to restart few times the message still came out... so i disable the SMART function..

is there anything wrong wiv my hdd??

could i take back the hdd to the shop & change to a new one cause in 1 year time can exchange 1 to 1 but my hdd work normal if i disable the SMART??

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QUOTE(kitloon @ Oct 19 2005, 05:03 PM)
last month i bought a seagate 160 sata wiv ncq at viewnet pc shop. everything work great until yesterday when i on my pc a SMART error message came out... i continue to boot into window..scandisk..no bad sector..everything normal... try to restart few times the message still came out... so i disable the SMART function..

is there anything wrong wiv my hdd??

could i take back the hdd to the shop & change to a new one cause in 1 year time can exchange 1 to 1 but my hdd work normal if i disable the SMART??
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so wat windows ur fen using until can start scan it?
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you go to cmd, and type chkdsk, it will scan for you for bad sector.

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i'm using seagate barracuda 80 Gb Sata h/d. Bought it 2 yrs ago n it is still working fine. thumbup.gif
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so wat windows ur fen using until can start scan it?
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normal windows xp sp2. once an additional hdd is install in to a pc, windows will scan the secondary hdd if it was not properly shut down before.

correct me if i'm wrong
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but my maxtor still work fine after 4 years
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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 21 2005, 07:22 PM)
normal windows xp sp2. once an additional hdd is install in to a pc, windows will scan the secondary hdd if it was not properly shut down before.

correct me if i'm wrong
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very weird then coz windows alwiz didnt inform of the bad sector it scan as so far only win98 & ME will tell after scan alwiz.
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Oct 21 2005, 08:10 PM)
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maybe coz only a recent model dat is the bad ones? rolleyes.gif

now i dont noe which hardisk to buy sad.gif lookin at wd hd, it's so cheap than others, making me worries.. maxtor is out of the question, seagate.. hmm, maybe i shud test the seagate ones..
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hey,wat is NCQ and molex connector ... ? sweat.gif
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hey,wat is NCQ and molex connector ... ? sweat.gif
wat HDD must i have .... 4 both of them ....
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molex is the power head which connect to the HDD.
u might want to give samsung HDD a try.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 22 2005, 11:01 AM)
NCQ is found in sata HDD,
molex is the power head which connect to the HDD.
u might want to give samsung HDD a try.
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only in certain sata HDD's you should add
also only in certain sata II hdd's too
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what are the advantages of NCQ?
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But NCQ is not utilized in Windows XP yet izzit..?


If let's say I bought a HDD that is using SATA II but my mobo only supports SATA I, will it be backward compatible..?

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Poor me...my 200GB Maxtor 6L200P0 ATA suddenly not working this morning....my pc suddenly hang & freeze...when restart, can't detect IDE since i used it as my master drive...dont have any back-up to my data... sad.gif

i only used it for three months....lucky for me, it's under warranty & this monday i will return it at c-zone lowyat to clain my warranty..but warranty will never give me data recovery... sad.gif i lost all my pictures,videos,movies,saved games, works & projects....but luckily again, nothing were extreamly ot urgently important....but still a lost datas... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

i never let my PC on for more than 24 hours..just a normal everyday use....i really dissapointed with maxtor quality control...

i hope government through their IT & multimedia department must made compulsory for all hard disk drive makers to have data recovery centre for customers which their hard disk fail & still under warranty to recover their datas for free...hard disk makers sould responsible for all data lost...if cant be recover, they must pay compensation for the customer...

but for sure my next buy is not MAXTOR a.k.a DATA KILLER....fairly, before this i have one 40GB maxtor working fine for 2 years before sold it ..that one was in very good condition when i sold it... I think Maxtor is not reliable for mass capacity storage such as more than 80GB....

So for those with maxtor > 80GB...back up your data now ~~!!....

I learned a lesson today... i'll get my back up drive to back up my datas...i have nothing now .... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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government?!? laugh.gif
dun think they gonna get invovled in this sort of matter.

i've had 4 seagate disks so far.
1 @ 4 years
1 @ 3 years
2 @ 6 months
thankfully...... all still ok.

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QUOTE(he-sham @ Oct 23 2005, 04:57 AM)
i hope government through their IT & multimedia department must made compulsory for all hard disk drive makers to have data recovery centre for customers which their hard disk fail & still under warranty to recover their datas for free...hard disk makers sould responsible for all data lost...if cant be recover, they must pay compensation for the customer...
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Read the warranty policy on any hard drive. It does not cover the data on the drive itself. When you purchase the drive, you are agreeing to these terms.

It would be ridiculous to make them responsible for the data on the drive since the value of the data is not something that you can easily measure. Also it will lead to so many false claims.
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just wondering is that all HDD you guys complaining are high capacity (60GB above) or low capacity 20 - 40 GB ???
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QUOTE(hardyboyz888 @ Oct 23 2005, 12:30 AM)
But NCQ is not utilized in Windows XP yet izzit..?
If let's say I bought a HDD that is using SATA II but my mobo only supports SATA I, will it be backward compatible..?
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NCQ not only has to be supported by WinXP (which it does, BTW), but also the hardware, e.g. mobo. nForce4 & Intel's older 875 and of course the newer 9xx series does support NCQ.

Yes to yr 2nd Q.

One must realize they've not even achieved the claimed burst rate of SATA1.
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QUOTE(Hornet012 @ Oct 23 2005, 08:15 PM)
just wondering is that all HDD you guys complaining are high capacity (60GB above) or low capacity 20 - 40 GB ???
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I presume the higher range of capacities.

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QUOTE(Razzd @ Oct 24 2005, 02:09 AM)
I presume the higher range of capacities.
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Actually it's all depends on your luck also...
Quality also a issue.....
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QUOTE(WhizzWork2005 @ Oct 25 2005, 09:54 AM)
Actually it's all depends on your luck also...
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I heard a lot of people report failure on Maxtor. So now Maxtor is faithless in LYN. Seagate and WD is less.

Now WD got a lot already (as super macgyver says) and then Seagates users report again.

Nothing is perfect. sweat.gif
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WD not tat bad lar..
i got 1 WD 20GB HDD use for more than 5 years aledi and still running without any problem..still running proudly...
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I think I might buy WD next time. But it also depends on my luck when buying the one with a FOREVER life span. laugh.gif
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I think I might buy WD next time. But it also depends on my luck when buying the one with a FOREVER life span. laugh.gif
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Theres no such things as "FOREVER life span" ler bro tongue.gif as products have its life span. things will "dead" after wear and tear....Just like human....... whistling.gif

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My WD is working great too.. I think the only brand that i will not buy is Maxtor...
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QUOTE(Hornet012 @ Oct 27 2005, 05:42 PM)
Theres no such things as "FOREVER life span"  ler bro tongue.gif as products have its life span. things will "dead" after wear and tear....Just like human....... whistling.gif
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My WD is working great too.. I think the only brand that i will not buy is Maxtor...
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yea go for WD dun go for maxtor....in penang most shop recommend u buy maxtor...they are juz *mata duitan* and wanna suck blood tongue.gif....Maxtor always cause problem eh...dun listen to those ppl..take WD...they can earn more money with Maxtor coz maxtor original HDD very cheap
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Oct 27 2005, 08:22 PM)
yea go for WD dun go for maxtor....in penang most shop recommend u buy maxtor...they are juz *mata duitan* and wanna suck blood tongue.gif....Maxtor always cause problem eh...dun listen to those ppl..take WD...they can earn more money with Maxtor coz maxtor original HDD very cheap
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You said "PENANG" kah ? shocking.gif duhh........ doh.gif If penang kia then get seagate lor.....got factory there right ? can repair over there whistling.gif
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seagate close d :'(

close for 2 year or one and half year d....and no shop selling seagate..very few...had to order
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QUOTE(stevanistelrooy @ Oct 26 2005, 01:19 PM)
WD not tat bad lar..
i got 1 WD 20GB HDD use for more than 5 years aledi and still running without any problem..still running proudly...
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we not really want to coment on those oldages HDD but latest status of the HDD which is available in the market now.
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anyone know how to do scandisk? where can i download software for scandisk,to track down bad sector tat type?
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RAID or Enterprise editions of normal hard disks are ofcourse costlier, but to me the extra warranty, reliability and speed is worth is. Currently using Western Digital Raptors as my boot drive, and Western Digital's RE2 drives for normal storage.
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hai ... me got a question....how to know your harddisk have bad sector..
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QUOTE(splitfire @ Nov 27 2005, 12:31 AM)
anyone know how to do scandisk? where can i download software for scandisk,to track down bad sector tat type?
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Nov 27 2005, 02:39 AM)
hai ... me got a question....how to know your harddisk have bad sector..
..or there r software to scan the hd...btwif someone know ..pls tell me..tq
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i'm asking the same question
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any recomendation for 200GB hdd??i'm planning to get WD 2000KS(sata2/16mb).but since now donno which shop selling this HDD
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i have two 40Gb hardisk. one is maxtor and the other is WD.. both no problem.
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anyone know how to do scandisk? where can i download software for scandisk,to track down bad sector tat type?
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Nov 27 2005, 02:39 AM)
hai ... me got a question....how to know your harddisk have bad sector..
..or there r software to scan the hd...btwif someone know ..pls tell me..tq
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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Nov 27 2005, 02:47 AM)
i'm asking the same question
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bump!!!
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My experience with HDDs.

WD 80GB went kuku due to that SMART shait after a year...RMA then now still running fine and coming to one yr anniversary...hope nothing goes wrong again.

Bought a WD 120 GB during RMA period and coming to one yr anniversary as well...really hope dun both kaput on me.

my old 20GB Quantum still good though but spins at 5400rpm so less prone to fault gua.
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i have been using a maxtor fireball 40GB for 2 years,no problem,accept that i'm running out of hdd space,just hope my hdd wont become a real fireball sweat.gif
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no pening kepala, coz want buy 2 unit 160gb to replace my both 80gb but seagate & WD both not stable ler.
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I have 20gb, 40gb, 80gb 120gb, and 320gb. I ned 2 buy 500gb hdd so tat i have enough space 2 put all my movie
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Nov 27 2005, 03:10 AM)
My experience with HDDs.

WD 80GB went kuku due to that SMART shait after a year...RMA then now still running fine and coming to one yr anniversary...hope nothing goes wrong again.

Bought a WD 120 GB during RMA period and coming to one yr anniversary as well...really hope dun both kaput on me.

my old 20GB Quantum still good though but spins at 5400rpm so less prone to fault gua.
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hey i had the same problem and same hdd with you...
i got WD80G, same as you, S.M.A.R.T error not more than a year. by the way where you send to warrenty? send to the factory or their office?

my Quantum 20G same spec as you, working fine, nothing happen, no bad sectors, used for 5 years already, very god hdd indeed, sad things was, no more Quantum, but hello to Maxtor doh.gif
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QUOTE(walawalahe @ Nov 30 2005, 02:14 PM)
I have 20gb, 40gb, 80gb 120gb, and 320gb. I ned 2 buy 500gb hdd so tat i have enough space 2 put all my movie
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wow.. how much have u invested on storage spaces?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Nov 30 2005, 10:12 AM)
no pening kepala, coz want buy 2 unit 160gb to replace my both 80gb but seagate & WD both not stable ler.
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huh???!
you mean your current WD & Seagate not stable??!! Seagate also the same??! sweat.gif
alamak, nowaday don't have a reliable hdd to get!!
i wish Quantum come back!! cry.gif
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QUOTE(walawalahe @ Nov 30 2005, 02:14 PM)
I have 20gb, 40gb, 80gb 120gb, and 320gb. I ned 2 buy 500gb hdd so tat i have enough space 2 put all my movie
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Dec 3 2005, 03:03 PM)
wow.. how much have u invested on storage spaces?
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files storing in hdd is much more easier to access, but worse thing is when the hdd going something wrong,
then we have to say bye bye to our data!!! and hello to new hdd!! doh.gif
for save, save the file in several media, like CDs, DVDs or some external hdd, just in case the hdd failure! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Dec 3 2005, 03:06 PM)
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files storing in hdd is much more easier to access, but worse thing is when the hdd going something wrong,
then we have to say bye bye to our data!!! and hello to new hdd!!  doh.gif
for save, save the file in several media, like CDs, DVDs or some external hdd, just in case the hdd failure!  sweat.gif
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yo... i m going to buy 250G Maxtor later in the pcfair... good ar? unsure.gif
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i just bought a Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA,funny thing is, my SpeedFan detects the seagate 'fitness' is at 50% while it detects my maxtor 40GB Fireball PATA 'fitness' is full,what the hell just happened? my old maxtor is healthier than my new seagate? blink.gif
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lol....my old comp...still using Quantum Fireball 20GB 5400rpm(5years+)...haha...it serve me well....somemore is for downloading use...XD..

hope quantum will come back.... cry.gif

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 3 2005, 06:21 PM)
i just bought a Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA,funny thing is, my SpeedFan detects the seagate 'fitness' is at 50% while it detects my maxtor 40GB Fireball PATA 'fitness' is full,what the hell just happened? my old maxtor is healthier than my new seagate? blink.gif
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SpeedFan tries to build two synthetic indicators, but this is based on heuristic and on some basic assumptions. Most manufacturers do not use values lower than 100 when any attribute needs no attention, but some other ones (most notably Seagate) chose to set values for some attributes to values lower than 100 even if the drive should be considered 100% healthy

- http://www.almico.com/sfarticle.php?id=2
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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Nov 27 2005, 03:00 AM)

QUOTE(splitfire @ Nov 27 2005, 12:31 AM)
anyone know how to do scandisk? where can i download software for scandisk,to track down bad sector tat type?

QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Nov 27 2005, 02:39 AM)
hai ... me got a question....how to know your harddisk have bad sector..
..or there r software to scan the hd...btwif someone know ..pls tell me..tq

QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Nov 27 2005, 02:47 AM)
i'm asking the same question

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mmm...let me do the simple answer, expertist and MOD (empire23) please explain further and enlighten them...

to check the bad sector/s...
you may use the built in scan disk, called disk check to see the status....
else you can feel the hdd internal got jammed/crack sound and restart after hit the hdd's bad sector/s. that's all for my experience!


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QUOTE(lucky8 @ Dec 3 2005, 05:37 PM)
yo... i m going to buy 250G Maxtor later in the pcfair... good ar?  unsure.gif
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hey, let us know the condition of your hdd after a year/s...if the thread is still alive!
not sure with the current quality of the workmanship. i pray it will last you for several years b4 "rosak/tak boleh guna"!! doh.gif
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i have 80gb wd sata .. 200gb samsung sataII and 200gb wd pata .. i prefer samsung the most coz of silence operation and quite stable .. plus price cheap too ..
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hmm... what hdd is good for notebooks.. particularly fujitsu.. my notebook only has 40gb space.. should i get an external one or change my built-in hdd?

p/s: im a noob.. im sorry if im asking stupid questions...
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QUOTE(fendii @ Dec 3 2005, 06:57 PM)
SpeedFan tries to build two synthetic indicators, but this is based on heuristic and on some basic assumptions. Most manufacturers do not use values lower than 100 when any attribute needs no attention, but some other ones (most notably Seagate) chose to set values for some attributes to values lower than 100 even if the drive should be considered 100% healthy

- http://www.almico.com/sfarticle.php?id=2
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wow nvr knew about this
i thought my seagate HDD is half as good as last time .... now 3 years it still read 50%! flex.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Dec 4 2005, 01:21 AM)
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hey, let us know the condition of your hdd after a year/s...if the thread is still alive!
not sure with the current quality of the workmanship. i pray it will last you for several years b4 "rosak/tak boleh guna"!!  doh.gif
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after checked with the seller, they said maxtor might replace us a refurbished unit instead of new... then i switched to WD liao... tongue.gif
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hey guys i am planing to buy a maxtor 80gb hdd luckly i see your guys post. Thanks for all of your advise i am going to buy wd since maxtor is a data killer.
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i just burn a wd2500ks
thanks for the very good service of cycom, they change a brand new one for me without asking a word

i don't know why, but i think it is really a hurt to keeping 250gb files in a disk and suddenly finding have lost all of them

and also i don't think i can afford always another 250gb disk for backup purpose only
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OMG!!!
recently many LYN member got SMART error on their WD hdd....
WD being in the market quite long, why they product such unreliable hdd...
can it be because of making in China? eveything cheap and fast to spoilt sweat.gif
below are the another thread happen on one of the LY member.
i think i should give it a try for Seagate, people were saying Seagate was very noisy, this doesn't matter on me, as long as the hdd can maintain healthy up to at least 5 years and above.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...st=0&p=5444480&
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yeah, noisy is not a matter lor.... reliable is more important..
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my new seagate will have the 'tak...tak....tak...' sound when using bt,or donwloading via limewire,other time,its as stealthy as a stingray(correct me if i use the wrong term),only thing is,since i bought it from pc fair,so no warranty card or whatsoever,scared cannot claim warranty,so.....no warranty card can claim warranty arr?

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 7 2005, 01:43 AM)
my new seagate will have the 'tak...tak....tak...' sound when using bt,or donwloading via limewire,other time,its as stealthy as a stingray(correct me if i use the wrong term),only thing is,since i bought it from pc fair,so no warranty card or whatsoever,scared cannot claim warranty,so.....no warranty card can claim warranty arr?
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you bought from the shop, the shop only offer a year warrenty by them, after that, you need to send it by yourself. show them your receipt they have to accept the hdd with F.O.C. else post their company name here and nextt ime will will not bong chan (buy from) them!!!! doh.gif

Seagate was easy, we know the location. only the WD i am not sure where to send. Cycom broucher did mentioned RMA location of Seagate, provided with the address.

Below is the Seagate RMA address....

Seagate SeaCare Centre C/O UPS

Suite 11.20, 11th Floor Menara Summit,
Persiaran Kewajipan USJ 1,
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Tel: 6-03-8023 1333
Fax: 6-03-8026 8375

Seagate gave 5 years warrenty...wow...this is good...!!! which means they were confident with their products and to serve the consumer. we know the electronic parts is wears and tears.If the hdd can last for at least min 5 years it will consider good. Else if the hdd able to last for more than that, that will be awesome. I would like to know the address & location for the WD RMA, no one mentioned in thsi thread! thanks!

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BTW, beside the highway(forgot the name of the highway) got 1 building with a big 'WD Western Digital' logo is a factory or WD RMA arr?
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I just killed my external WD 80G today. It is only 1.5 years...damn. It is still turning but it can't seem to be detected. Is there any chance i could recover my data?
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anyone can tell me about the issues of certain hdisk cannot be detected due to their large capacities? some people reporting that it only detect a portion of the hdisk, such as 170gig from a 200gb hdisk.

anyone care to expalin how did this happen? compatibility issue? bios problem?

does this problem affect those hdisk used in the portable enclosure? thanks in advance
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My WD SATA 250GB kicked the bucket last month after just under two years of usage. Picked up a Maxtor 300GB as a replacement just now, will let you guys know if anything happens to it laugh.gif

QUOTE(jaMneSs @ Dec 7 2005, 01:56 PM)
anyone can tell me about the issues of certain hdisk cannot be detected due to their large capacities? some people reporting that it only detect a portion of the hdisk, such as 170gig from a 200gb hdisk.

anyone care to expalin how did this happen? compatibility issue? bios problem?

does this problem affect those hdisk used in the portable enclosure? thanks in advance
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This kind of problems usually can be solved by updating the mobo BIOS if the mobo is an old model.

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hi i buy maxtor 80gb it is the most best hdd i ever had.luckly i know western digital have electric shortage problem.Maxtor is the best.
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not u said maxtor is a data killer ??
anyway many things depands on luck when buying stuffs such as hdd's.different brands hav different quality.

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errr..i juz bought a samsaung hdd SATA 2 160G..hoho..impressive...really quiet @@' wakakaka...BT also diam2 1..not like my other WD hdd..once start BT den ll start noisy liao tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 7 2005, 03:09 AM)
BTW, beside the highway(forgot the name of the highway) got 1 building with a big 'WD Western Digital' logo is a factory or WD RMA arr?
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so which brand is the best for 200GB??i can get WD, Maxtor and Samsung

prefer SATA 2 + 16MB
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anyway i think maxtor is the best but this is depends on your luck my friend bought maxtor is from china but i bought is from singapore.it is all depends on your luck.
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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Dec 11 2005, 03:33 AM)
anyway i think maxtor is the best but this is depends on your luck my friend bought maxtor is from china but i bought is from singapore.it is all depends on your luck.
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not really......Maxtor HDD famous as "Data Killer". There is a thread discussing about HDD and almost 90% user complaining Maxtor HDD. If you have friends who are PC hardware dealer ask them what HDD giving the most problem........MAXTOR shakehead.gif
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not really......Maxtor HDD famous as "Data Killer". There is a thread discussing about HDD and almost 90% user complaining Maxtor HDD. If you have friends who are PC hardware dealer ask them what HDD giving the most problem........MAXTOR  shakehead.gif
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the most scary thing about harddisk is they just died without any symptoms .... i used to have 1 maxtor and 2 western digital and 1 seagate .... they serve me well and still under warranty period ... but i guesss we cant just predict ... they died just overnight ... unrecoverable ... really sad ... all data gone! ... is there any harddisk that can promise will not died without any symptoms for 3 years time? tongue.gif ..... guess not ..... depends on luck ...
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QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Dec 14 2005, 08:30 AM)
the most scary thing about harddisk is they just died without any symptoms .... i used to have 1 maxtor and 2 western digital and 1 seagate .... they serve me well and still under warranty period ... but i guesss we cant just predict ... they died just overnight ... unrecoverable ... really sad ... all data gone! ... is there any harddisk that can promise will not died without any symptoms for 3 years time? tongue.gif ..... guess not ..... depends on luck ...
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Maybe there is but you did not realise it. Such as...it produce noise, "click" sound or sometimes cannot be detected but later on work fine. Those are the symptoms for mine. biggrin.gif get another HDD If using PnP/Bt etc cos those software will kill ur HDD softly tongue.gif correct me if im wrong
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my friend is working as a technition he also advise me maxtor because wd has electric shortage problem.but it is all depends on luck.
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i just burn a wd2500ks
thanks for the very good service of cycom, they change a brand new one for me without asking a word

i don't know why, but i think it is really a hurt to keeping 250gb files in a disk and suddenly finding have lost all of them

and also i don't think i can afford always another 250gb disk for backup purpose only
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ur is sata or pata?

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 7 2005, 01:43 AM)
my new seagate will have the 'tak...tak....tak...' sound when using bt,or donwloading via limewire,other time,its as stealthy as a stingray(correct me if i use the wrong term),only thing is,since i bought it from pc fair,so no warranty card or whatsoever,scared cannot claim warranty,so.....no warranty card can claim warranty arr?
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I just killed my external WD 80G today.  It is only 1.5 years...damn.  It is still turning but it can't seem to be detected.  Is there any chance i could recover my data?
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u using the enclosure or pure external?

QUOTE(Christopher_LKL @ Dec 14 2005, 08:30 AM)
the most scary thing about harddisk is they just died without any symptoms .... i used to have 1 maxtor and 2 western digital and 1 seagate .... they serve me well and still under warranty period ... but i guesss we cant just predict ... they died just overnight ... unrecoverable ... really sad ... all data gone! ... is there any harddisk that can promise will not died without any symptoms for 3 years time? tongue.gif ..... guess not ..... depends on luck ...
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all 4 of it just died in the same time?

QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Dec 14 2005, 01:33 PM)
my friend is working as a technition he also advise me maxtor because wd has electric shortage problem.but it is all depends on luck.
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WD electric shortage? how to know when tat happen? refer to all sata or pata?
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I see it from a forum on taiwan ,they have test it so i know.
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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Dec 14 2005, 10:34 PM)
I see it from a forum on taiwan ,they have test it so i know.
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You may want to check out Warranty Week on the Top 25 Warranty Providers, and you'll notice that Maxtor is in the list. As for Seagate, they are in the Top 50 Warranty Providers instead because of lower warranty claims. It should be noted Seagate ships more drive than Maxtor, however on warranty claims its the other way around though. These figures are mostly for the US/Canada region though.. Sorry, no figures on Western Digital this year YET, but you can checkout the older Warranty Headlines Archive and see.. wink.gif

The figures there are subjective of course. There could be many factors that affect them (such as older warranties due to 3-5 year warranty claims, etc). Just some points to ponder.. sweat.gif

On the subject on reliability.. I would say 80% on how you manage and "treat" them (ie. PSU, cooling, mounting, etc) and 20% luck! Nobody's perfect. tongue.gif

Always monitor the S.M.A.R.T status from time to time to avoid data loss.. Do periodic backups as well.. rolleyes.gif

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I like WD... very quiet and no probs at all after using it 2 years....
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QUOTE(lex @ Dec 16 2005, 12:40 PM)
You may want to check out Warranty Week on the Top 25 Warranty Providers, and you'll notice that Maxtor is in the list. As for Seagate, they are in the Top 50 Warranty Providers instead because of lower warranty claims. It should be noted Seagate ships more drive than Maxtor, however on warranty claims its the other way around though. These figures are mostly for the US/Canada region though.. Sorry, no figures on Western Digital this year YET, but you can checkout the older Warranty Headlines Archive and see..  wink.gif

The figures there are subjective of course. There could be many factors that affect them (such as older warranties due to 3-5 year warranty claims, etc). Just some points to ponder.. sweat.gif

On the subject on reliability.. I would say 80% on how you manage and "treat" them (ie. PSU, cooling, mounting, etc) and 20% luck! Nobody's perfect. tongue.gif

Always monitor the S.M.A.R.T status from time to time to avoid data loss.. Do periodic backups as well..  rolleyes.gif
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Wa........die lo........I just bought a MAXTOR 250GB HDD.....Yet here everyone is complaining MAxTOR.....But my WD 200GB is serving me well for one year.

The first day I bought MAXtor, I cant boot up my HDD as slave although I plug everything properly. I thought my windows got problem, so I reinstall, then after that I plugin again and it works. Wasting my time to reinstall my windows.

I hope my MAXTOR HDD dont have any problem..........keep my finger crossed!!!
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i also use maxtor HD 40GB (2 years) + 80GB plus 8MB (1 year) till now, but seen ok. actually jsut half confidence on them because the 40GB have ' tak tak' sounds before, after i changed to another pc system and reformat, it seen ok. just worry the 80GB HD harmed after using BT so much.
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Been using maxtor for 3 and the half year...no problem..just that it has already operating at the temperature of 61 degree celsius biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lex @ Dec 16 2005, 12:40 PM)
You may want to check out Warranty Week on the Top 25 Warranty Providers, and you'll notice that Maxtor is in the list. As for Seagate, they are in the Top 50 Warranty Providers instead because of lower warranty claims. It should be noted Seagate ships more drive than Maxtor, however on warranty claims its the other way around though. These figures are mostly for the US/Canada region though.. Sorry, no figures on Western Digital this year YET, but you can checkout the older Warranty Headlines Archive and see..  wink.gif

The figures there are subjective of course. There could be many factors that affect them (such as older warranties due to 3-5 year warranty claims, etc). Just some points to ponder.. sweat.gif

On the subject on reliability.. I would say 80% on how you manage and "treat" them (ie. PSU, cooling, mounting, etc) and 20% luck! Nobody's perfect. tongue.gif

Always monitor the S.M.A.R.T status from time to time to avoid data loss.. Do periodic backups as well..  rolleyes.gif
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LEX!!!
how come now only you came in!!!
this is a very good informations...
OMG!!! thumbup.gif

in facts, i think now the most reliable hdd was Seagate, why, because they gave 5 years warrenty for the hdd. they are confident with their products like his past compatitor; Quantum. I think i should buy Seagate and try for it....
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QUOTE(nodeffect @ Dec 16 2005, 12:43 PM)
I like WD... very quiet and no probs at all after using it 2 years....
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 9 2005, 03:19 PM)
Same here using my maxtor for 2 years and it's still ok, might have been lucky XD

Anyways, my recommended HDD, i know people are sick and tired of hearing this, but it's the WD RAPTOR LOL! Heard they migh be releasing a SATA2 followup or even a 15k RPM one. I stand here waiting laugh.gif
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i hope the next gen of the WD hdd will be improve, as what empire23 said in the past post. WD is going to launch the new tech of hdd...


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QUOTE(c_kimsin @ Dec 17 2005, 12:09 AM)
i also use maxtor HD 40GB (2 years) + 80GB plus 8MB (1 year) till now, but seen ok. actually jsut half confidence on them because the 40GB have ' tak tak' sounds before, after i changed to another pc system and reformat, it seen ok. just worry the 80GB HD harmed after using BT so much.
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Been using a Maxtor 80GB 2MB PATA for slightly less than a year. No problems for now, although I'm still cautious of the problems that may come. smile.gif At 1st, I was so damn skeptical and reluctant to buy it, but considering that I needed it badly, the price was just right and since it's very difficult to get Seagate here, I just had to do it. dry.gif The only thing that moved me was the fact (or is it?) that Maxtor bought over Quantum, and that reason alone was why I got a HDD with a potential timebomb attached. biggrin.gif I pray to the high heavens that nothing'll happen within another year...

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i have 2 pata WD both also no problem n still working
one WD "protage" i think, it quite noisy but no problem since i got it cheap serve me already 3 years
another one is WD cavier silent n works well already using for 2 years
i guess i will stick to WD next time
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I have tried WD, Seagate, Quantum, Maxtor. Never had a faulty drive before. I guess 90% of the time it depends on how u handle your disk to ensure they work nicely tongue.gif
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weii.. i been using my quantum fireball for almost 8 year already.. still serve me well... the minus part is the only 4 GB only..,.. currently still function with my old trusty PC....

my new pc using Samsung SP1213N 120GB....but last week. give up on me,.. dunno just suddenly cannot detect... now in RMA.... shissss....
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i've use maxtor 40gb b4.. in a year got a lot of bad sector already.. then change to 80gb maxtor also(coz the cheapest sweat.gif ).. right now im using it about 1 year.. 2 partition there 40/40.. everytime each partition got less than 1gb space, the partition started to lost.. windows only detected one partition after boot.. but luckily can format.. even loss the data sad.gif after formatting working normal again.. this thing happen twice to me.. shakehead.gif so i need to left more than 1gb space in each partition to avoid data loss.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Dec 17 2005, 11:14 PM)
i've use maxtor 40gb b4.. in a year got a lot of bad sector already.. then change to 80gb maxtor also(coz the cheapest sweat.gif ).. right now im using it about 1 year.. 2 partition there 40/40.. everytime each partition got less than 1gb space, the partition started to lost.. windows only detected one partition after boot.. but luckily can format.. even loss the data sad.gif after formatting working normal again.. this thing happen twice to me.. shakehead.gif  so i need to left more than 1gb space in each partition to avoid data loss.. sweat.gif
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i oso dunno y u all say maxtor is bad...but i dunno how bad for maxtor hdd biggrin.gif ...
so far for me...quite ok loh... mb my luck so good didt getting any bad sector from maxtor hdd... biggrin.gif





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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Dec 17 2005, 11:22 PM)
i oso dunno y u all say maxtor is bad...but i dunno how bad for maxtor hdd  biggrin.gif ...
so far for me...quite ok loh... mb my luck so good didt getting any bad sector from maxtor hdd...  biggrin.gif
yeah maybe u lucky one.. biggrin.gif neway i've many bad experience with maxtor from myself either my clients.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Morpheus81 @ Dec 17 2005, 11:10 PM)
weii.. i been using my quantum fireball for almost 8 year already.. still serve me well... the minus part is the only 4 GB only..,.. currently still function with my old trusty PC....

my new pc using Samsung SP1213N 120GB....but last week. give up on me,.. dunno just suddenly cannot detect... now in RMA.... shissss....
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OMG!..
sad to hear that, i thought Samsung might be good!!!
no choice, maybe the last and the only hdd you can purchase is Seagate...
any other hdd to recommend?
is hitachi still available in the market? seldom see IBM, hitachi selling around in Low Yat, plus dunno how is the reliability will be...
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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Dec 17 2005, 11:22 PM)
i oso dunno y u all say maxtor is bad...but i dunno how bad for maxtor hdd  biggrin.gif ...
so far for me...quite ok loh... mb my luck so good didt getting any bad sector from maxtor hdd...  biggrin.gif
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this is true....
many people facing this problem...
as for my previous office PC, when i started to work there, they change new hdd for me, not more than a year bad sector occur...!!!!!!!
my friends also having the same problem, another one is much more worse, not more than a month then something wrong with the hdd. do you think the rtail shop selling old stock and this happen because of this?
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When I got my Maxtor, the salesperson emphasised only one rule when buying HDDs:

Made In Singapore only. smile.gif I'm starting to think that he may be right. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(victorboy @ Dec 18 2005, 04:48 AM)
OMG!..

is hitachi still available in the market? seldom see IBM, hitachi selling around in Low Yat, plus dunno how is the reliability will be...
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Why only made in singapore?
As i know,not all brands have factories in Singapore.
how abt hitachi?
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some maxtor hdd made in china so look carefully before buy it.
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omg..!!!
i never look it properly...
i think my hdd was made in malaysia.

speaking about china made...
the goods are indeed ver cheap...
somehow the quality not good as last time.

i got my kingstone ram was made in USA, use untill not and no blue screen happen..!!
very amazing...
but at that time i bought very expansive, 128mb = RM500+ shocking.gif
stability and quality awesome...
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Hear ye! Hear ye! This just in (though I'm not surprised at all considering Maxtor current financial situation) ohmy.gif Once upon a time, Maxtor gobbled up Quantum, and now Seagate takes over Maxtor. I wonder if the SeaCare centers will now cater for Maxtor RMAs as well.. brows.gif
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SOS!! URGENT HELP NEEDED!! sweat.gif my company's harddisk just died ... IDE cant detect it at all and after plug it into a external harddisk casing (IDE to USB), it still wont work or the PC didnt detect it at all!! sad.gif

All this started when i backup my WD content into the Samsung so i can format the WD ... the backup content was about 20GB which i copied it into the Samsung's D drive, after formating the WD, the nxt thing was to transfer all the Samsung backup content back to WD .... with the Samsung acting as the master and WD as the slave.

Halfway during the transfer, the PC(Samsung = master) hang .... after waiting for so long and still no respond, i reset it and the nxt thing i know is that the Samsung wont boot up anymore nor the BIOS can detect it at all.

Is there anyway i can still retreive back the Samsung content even if it means sending back to the factory as its still under warranty i think? The content innit is so very important i belive it will cost me my job cry.gif HELP!!
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QUOTE(lex @ Dec 21 2005, 06:22 PM)
Hear ye! Hear ye! This just in (though I'm not surprised at all considering Maxtor current financial situation) ohmy.gif Once upon a time, Maxtor gobbled up Quantum, and now Seagate takes over Maxtor. I wonder if the SeaCare centers will now cater for Maxtor RMAs as well.. brows.gif
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wow!!!
lex, where do you get those info?
i wonder how they got so much of capital take over Quantum!!!!! shakehead.gif
Quantum, please revive!!!! thumbup.gif

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What's so good about Quantum? biggrin.gif

Anyway I just hope seagate doesnt cater Maxtor rma mad.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Dec 22 2005, 01:50 AM)
What's so good about Quantum?  biggrin.gif

Anyway I just hope seagate doesnt cater Maxtor rma  mad.gif
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i got a 20G Quantum hdd..using it untill now...
it has been using for 5 years+
no bad sectors and error...
quite stable...

unlike the WD hdd i bought last year, not more than a year has SMART error. shakehead.gif

that's why i said it was good! thumbup.gif blush.gif

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SOS!! URGENT HELP NEEDED!!  sweat.gif my company's harddisk just died ... IDE cant detect it at all and after plug it into a external harddisk casing (IDE to USB), it still wont work or the PC didnt detect it at all!! sad.gif

All this started when i backup my WD content into the Samsung so i can format the WD ... the backup content was about 20GB which i copied it into the Samsung's D drive, after formating the WD, the nxt thing was to transfer all the Samsung backup content back to WD .... with the Samsung acting as the master and WD as the slave.

Halfway during the transfer, the PC(Samsung = master) hang .... after waiting for so long and still no respond, i reset it and the nxt thing i know is that the Samsung wont boot up anymore nor the BIOS can detect it at all.

Is there anyway i can still retreive back the Samsung content even if it means sending back to the factory as its still under warranty i think? The content innit is so very important i belive it will cost me my job cry.gif HELP!!
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hey guys...im planning to get an external hard disk and dono which brand to choose since u guys post alot of stuffs online..after reading it memang blur gila...hehe....and btw im using apple ibook and im worried if theres possibiblity if i bought tat hdd and then its not compatible wit my os x or wat?....thanks alot guys... tongue.gif
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im planning to buy notebook hdd, which is quiet. my hdd ( toshiba)  in laptop makes a lot of noise. which hdd notebook is the best?
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i think maybe you can go for Seagate or WD, or Samsung..... sweat.gif
there is not other hdd manufacturer...
do not know is hitachi and other hdd exist or not... doh.gif

i never try Sumsung hdd before...
and i did tried WD only which has SMART error doh.gif

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im planning to buy notebook hdd, which is quiet. my hdd ( toshiba)  in laptop makes a lot of noise. which hdd notebook is the best?
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toshiba nb hdd is welel know of it nb hdd failure ler, better choose other like nb hdd like wd, seagate or samsung.
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The Hitachi 500GB SATA II 16mb cache is the best
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guys,what is NCQ?

planning to buy new hdd soon but dunno should take with NCQ or not...
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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Dec 27 2005, 12:31 PM)
for 7200 RPM HD

The Hitachi 500GB SATA II 16mb cache is the best
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the price also best sweat.gif

planing to get another HDD,
SATA2 300GB above, what brand should i take unsure.gif

i have 2 WD Raptor 37GB, can i use SATA and SATA 2 in same RIG?

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beware , there is a imitation hitachi at kelang now.
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ok, i am going for Seagate, will buy it later, and see how long the hdd will last....
not much selection can be choose.
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more like its rebranding.. or just relabel it..
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i dun think HDD can me imitated, just like ppl saying proc imitation

more like its rebranding.. or just relabel it..
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guys,need opinion here...

i got seagate 40gb.work time for this hdd already 11mth.40gb is too small for me now so i need to buy bigger hdd..so,i'm confusing which 1 should i choose because my budget is below rm300...

option 1:
buy seagate 160gb=rm290
total money spend=rm290

option 2:
buy seagate 200gb=rm325
sell my 40gb=market price ard rm80~rm100
total money spend:~rm250

my target is 200gb and my mobo only support pata...

hope u guys can give opinions abt this.thx...
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What is the SMART functions for the hard disk?
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jan 5 2006, 05:27 PM)
guys,need opinion here...

i got seagate 40gb.work time for this hdd already 11mth.40gb is too small for me now so i need to buy bigger hdd..so,i'm confusing which 1 should i choose because my budget is below rm300...

option 1:
buy seagate 160gb=rm290
total money spend=rm290

option 2:
buy seagate 200gb=rm325
sell my 40gb=market price ard rm80~rm100
total money spend:~rm250

my target is 200gb and my mobo only support pata...

hope u guys can give opinions abt this.thx...
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i think you should go for 200GB, since oyu need a large capacity hdd.
additional RM35 you will get 40GB...
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 6 2006, 05:55 PM)
i think you should go for 200GB, since oyu need a large capacity hdd.
additional RM35 you will get 40GB...
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both option is 200gb total.option 1=160gb+40gb,option 2=200gb x1 whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jan 6 2006, 06:59 PM)
both option is 200gb total.option 1=160gb+40gb,option 2=200gb x1  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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omg!!
then go for option 2!!! thumbup.gif
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What is the SMART functions for the hard disk?
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http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref...turesSMART.html

or maybe wait other expert Lowyatian provide the
best explaination and links! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 6 2006, 11:40 PM)
omg!!
then go for option 2!!!  thumbup.gif
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any reason why u choose 2?? huh.gif huh.gif

i also dunno what is smart.i disable this feature in bios anyway... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jan 7 2006, 12:04 AM)
any reason why u choose 2?? huh.gif  huh.gif

i also dunno what is smart.i disable this feature in bios anyway... laugh.gif
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mmm....
i prefer a 1 larger hdd for storing all the files into one!!
unless you plan to installed windows into the 40G,
then the 160G use as files storage.

if for me, i prefer to have a large capacity hdd to store my file.

if you are not plannign to sell your current hdd, then the option to yuo is no1.
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bad news...
my another WD 80G hdd is going to die!!!

problem is when i copy the file from
C to D (partitioned, D was part of C)
the blue screen appear...

it is not safe to continue using anymore,
i shall backup and replace a new one.

if i am not mistaken, the hdd only approximately 2 years old.

shakehead.gif

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im interested in buying the samsung SP0812N

http://www.samsung.com/my/products/harddis...ive/sp0812n.asp

is it good when compared to WD 80GB models? is there any draw back for ATA100 when im using intel motherboard when compared to ATA133?
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I have use Western Digital on my 1st assemble PC, Maxtor on my second and also Maxtor on my third...but the third Maxtor showing bad sector already so i guess it wont last long...thinking of changing to Western Digital Caviar series or Seagate...haven't make up my mind yet....really fancy the Raptor but feel it is too expensive for a hard disk...read some really good review about Samsung drive too but my friend work inside don't recommend...hmm...might end up with Seagate since i havent use them before...hahaha...performance wise...i don't really feel any different...i think it is your CPU and RAM which contribute more to the performance sector....hard disk is only for storage biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Survivor @ Jan 9 2006, 08:53 AM)
I have use Western Digital on my 1st assemble PC, Maxtor on my second and also Maxtor on my third...but the third Maxtor showing bad sector already so i guess it wont last long...thinking of changing to Western Digital Caviar series or Seagate...haven't make up my mind yet....really fancy the Raptor but feel it is too expensive for a hard disk...read some really good review about Samsung drive too but my friend work inside don't recommend...hmm...might end up with Seagate since i havent use them before...hahaha...performance wise...i don't really feel any different...i think it is your CPU and RAM which contribute more to the performance sector....hard disk is only for storage biggrin.gif
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i think better choose Seagate..
since they profive 5 years warrenty. sweat.gif
other than that, there is not other hdd is more reliable
except Quantum!! notworthy.gif
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i will ALWAYS choose Seagate unless i want a WD raptor.
the most reliable hard disks ever. according to surveys, maxtor is reported to have the highest failure rates. (and yes, my one and only maxtor owned died once and was RMA'ed.) 2nd is followed by WD. and lastly the lowest failure rate is Seagate. cant remember about the others. all the Seagates i've owned in the past 8 years that i can remember, none have failed. i'd rather have a hard disk that lasts longer than to save 50 bucks and have it die on me too soon and bring my data along to its death bed.

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 9 2006, 03:59 PM)
i think better choose Seagate..
since they profive 5 years warrenty.  sweat.gif
other than that, there is not other hdd is more reliable
except Quantum!!  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jan 9 2006, 04:06 PM)
i will ALWAYS choose Seagate unless i want a WD raptor.
the most reliable hard disks ever. according to surveys, maxtor is reported to have the highest failure rates. (and yes, my one and only maxtor owned died once and was RMA'ed.) 2nd is followed by WD. and lastly the lowest failure rate is Seagate. cant remember about the others. all the Seagates i've owned in the past 8 years that i can remember, none have failed. i'd rather have a hard disk that lasts longer than to save 50 bucks and have it die on me too soon and bring my data along to its death bed.
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Ohh...that has definately change my mind already...hehe....now going for Seagate! biggrin.gif But WD has many good hardware review than Seagate...and even head to head comparison also WD wins.. huh.gif

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jan 9 2006, 04:06 PM)
i will ALWAYS choose Seagate unless i want a WD raptor.
the most reliable hard disks ever. according to surveys, maxtor is reported to have the highest failure rates. (and yes, my one and only maxtor owned died once and was RMA'ed.) 2nd is followed by WD. and lastly the lowest failure rate is Seagate. cant remember about the others. all the Seagates i've owned in the past 8 years that i can remember, none have failed. i'd rather have a hard disk that lasts longer than to save 50 bucks and have it die on me too soon and bring my data along to its death bed.
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regard the new hdd; WD Raptor,
WD gives five warrenty for that!!! sweat.gif
but do not know how good is that hdd.
Metal Zone and empire23 said this version of hdd would be good.
i am doubt for the new of WD

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hey guys, between these 2 hard disk, which one shud i get?
i use it for torrents + a lil gaming + alot of internet surfing + some assignment works...

samsung
http://www.samsung.com/my/products/harddis...ive/sp0812n.asp

or

WD
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.as...=32&Language=en

i need a larger hard disk coz my 30gb hard disk is running low and i dun even have 4.7gb free for my dvd burner's cache files... ><
thanks in advance!
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I heard that torrents will damage your HDD easily because of the continuous read and write at the same time? how true is this?
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 7 2006, 05:11 PM)
bad news...
my another WD 80G hdd is going to die!!!

problem is when i copy the file from
C to D (partitioned, D was part of C)
the blue screen appear...

it is not safe to continue using anymore,
i shall backup and replace a new one.

if i am not mistaken, the hdd only approximately 2 years old.

shakehead.gif
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ur 1 is 2mn or 8mb cache? i also using wd 80gb almost 2 yr, i dun want end up like u, else i will cry.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 11 2006, 05:47 PM)
ur 1 is 2mn or 8mb cache? i also using wd 80gb almost 2 yr, i dun want end up like u, else i will  cry.gif
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lol

8mb one!!!
you are lucky...

my first 80G 8mb one not more than a year SMART error....dam* it.

second one, almost 1 1/2 plus, but the hdd seem like going to say bye bye already.
it show the bluescreen for me, quite soemtime already, but not often, approximately happen twice a week...
doh.gif

that's why you better reseve your bulk dvd+r for your data!! sweat.gif

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im using WD hdd 80GB p-ata..so far so gd..it's been wif me 3 yrs ++..no problem.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif stil performs excellent n low noise..
i hv another seagate 160gb s-ata.. less thn 1 yr..oso in excellent condition..
thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif only tat it produce more noise thn the WD..
anyway..i lik e WD & seagate hdd..maxtor...no no.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jan 11 2006, 06:16 PM)
im using WD hdd 80GB p-ata..so far so gd..it's been wif me 3 yrs ++..no problem.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  stil performs excellent n low noise..
i hv another seagate 160gb s-ata.. less thn 1 yr..oso in excellent condition..
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  only tat it produce more noise thn the WD..
anyway..i lik e WD & seagate hdd..maxtor...no no.. doh.gif
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now no more Maxtor...
there is onyl two hdd you can rely on...

Seagate and WD...not sure with samsung!!
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Oh really? On what basis are your statements made? Do you work in an environment where hard disks are handled in large quantities?

BTW, if you buy hard disks from Samsung, take note that there's no RMA procedures. I'm learning this the hard way, after two SP0411Ns of mine failed.

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Oh really? On what basis are your statements made? Do you work in an environment where hard disks are handled in large quantities?

BTW, if you buy hard disks from Samsung, take note that there's no RMA procedures. I'm learning this the hard way, after two SP0411Ns of mine failed.
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so do u still use samsung hdds? im interested in getting the P0812N, i've read many good user reviews on the P80 series here...
http://forums.storagereview.net/index.php?...opic=13426&st=0

there's a guy who bought 100 unit and none of them failed... =)
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QUOTE(Survivor @ Jan 9 2006, 08:53 AM)
I have use Western Digital on my 1st assemble PC, Maxtor on my second and also Maxtor on my third...but the third Maxtor showing bad sector already so i guess it wont last long...thinking of changing to Western Digital Caviar series or Seagate...haven't make up my mind yet....really fancy the Raptor but feel it is too expensive for a hard disk...read some really good review about Samsung drive too but my friend work inside don't recommend...hmm...might end up with Seagate since i havent use them before...hahaha...performance wise...i don't really feel any different...i think it is your CPU and RAM which contribute more to the performance sector....hard disk is only for storage biggrin.gif
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raptor also got rma high rates last yr.

QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 11 2006, 06:04 PM)
lol

8mb one!!!
you are lucky...

my first 80G 8mb one not more than a year SMART error....dam* it.

second one, almost 1 1/2 plus, but the hdd seem like going to say bye bye already.
it show the bluescreen for me, quite soemtime already, but not often, approximately happen twice a week...
doh.gif

that's why you better reseve your bulk dvd+r for your data!!  sweat.gif
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after smart erro, u can still backup?

QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 12 2006, 12:00 PM)
Oh really? On what basis are your statements made? Do you work in an environment where hard disks are handled in large quantities?

BTW, if you buy hard disks from Samsung, take note that there's no RMA procedures. I'm learning this the hard way, after two SP0411Ns of mine failed.
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samsung didnt repair but exchange a new 1 from korea for u after deliver the faulty EB to korea.

QUOTE(Redundant @ Jan 12 2006, 12:13 PM)
so do u still use samsung hdds? im interested in getting the P0812N, i've read many good user reviews on the P80 series here...
http://forums.storagereview.net/index.php?...opic=13426&st=0

there's a guy who bought 100 unit and none of them failed... =)
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who is tat guy? blink.gif
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@super macgyver
i've read it from the storage review's forum... a guy who's selling pc... he sold almost 100 unit with samsung hdds and so far no problems... =)

hey macgyver, u're linked with samsung right? so wut do u think of samsung hdds?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 12 2006, 12:44 PM)
after smart erro, u can still backup?
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when it show the smart error message to you,
you still use for 1 or 3 day...
after that it will totaly unable to use/detect!!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 12 2006, 01:09 PM)
when it show the smart error message to you,
you still use for 1 or 3 day...
after that it will totaly unable to use/detect!!!  doh.gif
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That's one of the reasons I have (lots of) external USB drives ready. To BACKUP QUICKLY whenever one of the HDDs having SMART failure, showing weird symptoms or having problems. I can always burn the data to DVDRs and/or CDRs later (for permanent backup). wink.gif

Reason? Burning hundred GBs of data to DVDRs and/or CDRs takes lots of time. Always have a good backup plan handy. thumbup.gif

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That's one of the reasons I have (lots of) external USB drives ready. To BACKUP QUICKLY whenever one of the HDDs having SMART failure, showing weird symptoms or having problems. I can always burn the data to DVDRs and/or CDRs later (for permanent backup).  wink.gif

Reason? Burning hundred GBs of data to DVDRs and/or CDRs takes lots of time. Always have a good backup plan handy.  thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 20 2006, 12:30 PM)
still backup to media is better. sweat.gif
Backup to media like CDR and/or DVDR takes long time, in particular if having hundreds of GBs would take from hours to days. When the drive is starting to exhibit problems, recommended to copy the data off that drive quickly because it may fail anytime soon. In this case, redundancy is essential to avoid sudden data loss. Once there is redundancy, you can take your own sweet time to completely backup and/or burn to CDR and/or DVDR. wink.gif

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 7 2006, 01:07 AM)
mmm....
i prefer a 1 larger hdd for storing all the files into one!!
unless you plan to installed windows into the 40G,
then the 160G use as files storage.

if for me, i prefer to have a large capacity hdd to store my file.

if you are not plannign to sell your current hdd, then the option to yuo is no1.
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hehe,just bought pata 160gb seagate 7200.9...the old 40gb become backup hdd n storing mp3s...

this hdd is single platter rite?

my Q is,should i enable smart in bios for this new hdd coz my old hdd i disable the option...and,whats the pros enabling it??

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yo guys, just wanted to ask how can we check the specification of a harddisk?
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i think on top of ur hdd (the sticker) got the spec on it!
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Just my 2cents ...

My first hard disk is a Seagate Medallist 500mb IDE HDD which was made in Singapore ...... it was used in my 80386 pc. However the amazing thing is that the hard disk still works after all these years ..... i still use it for transporting my documents and small files... and as you can see i do not treat it with any special care.... that says a lot about Seagate quality. (i know its size is smaller than a CD but somehow i'm in love with the sound it makes when data is being written on it .... the same sound all old hard disks make. lol.)

Currently i have two rigs ..... the main one in my campus PC1 (the one in my sig) and a backup pc at home PC2.

In PC1 as you can see i use 2 WD SATA HDD. The 120 GB is older and it has served me for 4 years with no problems whatsoever. I am pleased with its durability and that influenced me to get a WD 160 GB SATA HDD, 1 year later. My WD 160 has 4 partitions of that one is for my OS. The other three partitions are for other programs and data. I use the WD 120 for songs and data backup. My computer is on for about 12 hours per day ... and as of yet i have not detected any problems nor have i experienced any data loss. I also format my disks regularly about once in 2 months ... and defrag once in 2 weeks (this is because i have a lot of data traffic. Although i use a virus scanner.... i dont want to take any chances.) If it means anything, I use a ThermalTake 410watts PSU for this rig.

For PC2, i have two IDE Maxtor Fireballs a 40GB and a 20GB ........ basically i've had problems with the Maxtor 40GB whereby it had a faulty firmware and had to send it back for warranty .... it took me about 3-4 months to get it back from the shop. The 20GB so far has no problems but it is extremely noisy .... the motor i guess (i'm crossing my fingers as to when it will crash). The 20GB is about 5 years old and the 40GB is about 3++ years (due to warranty claims.) I'm using an ICute PSU for this rig.

I also have a Bigfoot Series 4GB Quantum HDD which is also old (i took it from my AMD K6-2 based rig) ........ in working condition but with some bad sectors. I dont use it but keep it for old time sake.

In conclusion i have no qualms using WD HDD as i have no probems with them. Maxtor HDD is a big no no. (hopefully Seagate will inject some sense into Maxtor). Seagate is good but i may be wrong cause i have not used their HDD in a long time.

Regarding Hitachi, Fujitsu and Samsung i really can't say as i have no experience using them.
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i have a friend who previously worked in western d told me that seagate and western d is actually from hitachi.... i dunno what parts are from hitachi but hitachi produces the "core" or base(watever) b4 they supply them to their respective factories....anyone can clarify that?
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Interesting if its true ..... cause i have heard a lot of good things about hitachi ......
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Jan 21 2006, 12:35 AM)
hehe,just bought pata 160gb seagate 7200.9...the old 40gb become backup hdd n storing mp3s...

this hdd is single platter rite?

my Q is,should i enable smart in bios for this new hdd coz my old hdd i disable the option...and,whats the pros enabling it??
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i think you should enable your SMART, many people recommend to enable it. anythings happen with the hdd ie. hdd failure, it will show you a warning b4 the hdd fail.... blush.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Jan 20 2006, 05:45 PM)
Backup to media like CDR and/or DVDR takes long time, in particular if having hundreds of GBs would take from hours to days. When the drive is starting to exhibit problems, recommended to copy the data off that drive quickly because it may fail anytime soon. In this case, redundancy is essential to avoid sudden data loss. Once there is redundancy, you can take your own sweet time to completely backup and/or burn to CDR and/or DVDR. wink.gif
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i mean doing daily backup ler, wat hapen if u think ur backup data is safe on the backup hdd while actually it already got bad sector on it? sweat.gif u wont know until u want to retrieve back after the source hdd is spoilt first. blush.gif

QUOTE(Akane Soma @ Jan 22 2006, 01:12 AM)
i have a friend who previously worked in western d told me that seagate and western d is actually from hitachi.... i dunno what parts are from hitachi but hitachi produces the "core" or base(watever) b4 they supply them to their respective factories....anyone can clarify that?
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tis the first time i heard tis. shocking.gif

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The worst hard disk in the world is Maxtor. I'll vote for Western Digital..
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 22 2006, 05:04 PM)
i think you should enable your SMART, many people recommend to enable it. anythings happen with the hdd ie. hdd failure, it will show you a warning b4 the hdd fail....  blush.gif
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wah,really???every mobo support it??i'm using msi k7n2(nf2) mobo anyway...

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im using maxtor at the moment.So far i have no prob with it.What probs have ppl encountered??
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i buy is IBM 20GB got problem clicking sound after 1 1/2 year send for RMA cost me RM30 wait 2 months ++ come back with Hitachi 40GB until now ok soo far soo good after RMA already aby 1/2 year ...

Maxtor always cant detect like my old Maxtor 15GB intermittent cant detect restart woking fine than dunno when sure come back but the data all is save !!!!!!!

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QUOTE(eksk86 @ Jan 27 2006, 01:24 AM)
im using maxtor at the moment.So far i have no prob with it.What probs have ppl encountered??
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Quantum is one of the best hdd manufacturers ever, I still have with me a quantum bigfoot and is still working perfectly with no bad sectors or any problems at all. I can't even recall its age already.

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Jan 12 2006, 01:09 PM)
when it show the smart error message to you,
you still use for 1 or 3 day...
after that it will totaly unable to use/detect!!!  doh.gif
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when is the smart error will appear when our hdd gonna down soon?in bios before booting windows?
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yes, in the bios screen but i think it will alert too in windows enviroment.

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hi, i wanna ask if it is OK to mix HDD brands in a PC. Say, i have a WD drive and now i want a Seagate as a secondary, will it be ok?

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ic, thanx man. My cousin was using WDs. His secondary WD fked up after only one year. Im telling him to get a Seagate replacement. Seagate rox!
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wd hdd in my company pc die after just 1 year, all data gone, lucky i have backup sweat.gif doh.gif
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Personal experience.. for reliability, go with Seagate.. for performance, go with WD.

I would never buy Maxtor again.. two Maxtors died on me.. had one repaired since it was under warranty.. but it died again a year later.
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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Feb 5 2006, 12:15 PM)
Personal experience.. for reliability, go with Seagate.. for performance, go with WD.

I would never buy Maxtor again.. two Maxtors died on me.. had one repaired since it was under warranty.. but it died again a year later.
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what is NCQ? how will it affect performance? i hear winxp cant use NCQ but VIsta can? my 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA got NCQ or not?
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now i got 3 hdd, 1 hitachi 40gb pata, 1 ibm 40gb pata, 1 wd 80gb sata, hitachi hdd is using more than 5 year still rock and fast thumbup.gif
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erm....failure rate for Maxtor quite high? erm my Maxtor still not yet fail me yet...have been using my 40GB Maxtor for quite a few years edi for gaming n apps..no prob so far
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QUOTE(tyssxp @ Feb 8 2006, 10:58 AM)
erm....failure rate for Maxtor quite high? erm my Maxtor still not yet fail me yet...have been using my 40GB Maxtor for quite a few years edi for gaming n apps..no prob so far
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http://www.storagereview.com/php/benchmark..._1=313&devCnt=2

Samsung SpinPoint P120 no NCQ (250 GB SATA)

or

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 with NCQ (250 GB SATA)

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currently using Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 (200 GB SATA bought April 2005) LYP guy said got NCQ already sweat.gif

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here more on the durability on hdd than speed.
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im getting a lot of these errors in event viewer.

The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

i have a feeling my wd is going to die soon. sleep.gif'
since seagate has a reputation for reliability, i'm thinking of getting one.
the 250gb sata2 seems the best bang for buck
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im getting a lot of these errors in event viewer.

The device, \Device\Harddisk1\D, has a bad block.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

i have a feeling my wd is going to die soon. sleep.gif'
since seagate has a reputation for reliability, i'm thinking of getting one.
the 250gb sata2 seems the best bang for buck
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seagate hdd also facing a high failure like wd did but unlike maxtor tat terible yet.
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i hate maxtor HDD.. it always fail me on my old pc.. when u are having power failure or something.. it will kill your data inside..
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QUOTE(Sim (2) @ Feb 15 2006, 06:14 PM)
i hate maxtor HDD.. it always fail me on my old pc.. when u are having power failure or something.. it will kill your data inside..
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Talk to a person in the IT business.
Looks like Maxtor gave the biggest profit margin that is why you find Maxtor being push by all salesman in the PC industry.

He mention for the best quality\reliability is Hitachi follow by Seagate
For best perfomance select WD but noisy and more heat and is good for gaming.

I only use Hitachi and Seagate.

In case you do not know, Hitachi bought over the IBM HDD busineess
some years ago so basically you are buying IBM HDD.

Years ago, mention IBM and you shake your head because you cannot afford anything that is IBM branded.

But now ,IBM HDD and PC is so affordable and I wonder why no one ask for them anymore.




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Talk to a person in the IT business.
Looks like Maxtor gave the biggest profit margin that is why you find Maxtor being push by all salesman in the PC industry.

He mention for the best quality\reliability is Hitachi follow by Seagate
For best perfomance select WD but noisy and more heat and is good for gaming.

I only use Hitachi and Seagate.

In case you do not know, Hitachi bought over the IBM HDD busineess
some years ago so basically you are buying IBM HDD.

Years ago, mention IBM and you shake your head because you cannot afford anything that is IBM branded.

But now ,IBM HDD and PC is so affordable and I wonder why no one ask for them anymore.
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i got my new Seagate 80G 2MB...
not sur ehow long it can survive.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Feb 20 2006, 09:11 PM)
i got my new Seagate 80G 2MB...
not sur ehow long it can survive....  sweat.gif
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don worry lah dude. i sure that the HDD is working fine but i wonder if you will throw it away as the speed of loading of info inside it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 17 2006, 04:56 PM)
u can find hitachi pc hdd in the market?  drool.gif
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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Feb 16 2006, 05:09 PM)
In case you do not know, Hitachi bought over the IBM HDD busineess
some years ago so basically you are buying IBM HDD.

Years ago, mention IBM and you shake your head because you cannot afford anything that is IBM branded.

But now ,IBM HDD and PC is so affordable and I wonder why no one ask for them anymore.
Hmm.. Do you know WHY IBM sold their HDD business (back) to Hitachi? Have you heard of the DeskStar 75GXP.. AKA the DeathStar? rolleyes.gif

Check out IBM Deskstar 75GXP Class Action Website. And FYI, Fujitsu also had a class action suit resulting in exit from the desktop market. See HDD Class Action Settlement Website. cool.gif

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alamak... just bought a used maxtor diamond plus 160gb from another member... rm200... pray nothing bad will happen...
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Dunno izzit gotta do with my rig or wat?! thumbup.gif
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is it normal for a maxtor 160gb ide hdd that really hot? or should i get those hdd cooler to cool down the extreme heat?
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Blackout. HD worst enemy. So get a good HD ... and a good UPS. dry.gif I had a lot of blackout these few months and my Maxtor 300GB started to give bad sectors. Just 4KB but it's there ... and everytime Windows startup, it always want to check the HD. I've started burning like mad and hopefully maybe i'll get another drive soon. Probably WD.
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Seriously, I'm starting to have doubts in toshiba notebook hdds.

My friend's hdd died few weeks ago, then it's another friend's hdd and mine died few days ago. All of us are using toshiba hdds sad.gif

Got myself a samsung 60 GB due to the limited choice, hopefully it'll work out fine. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Feb 23 2006, 08:39 AM)
Blackout. HD worst enemy. So get a good HD ... and a good UPS. dry.gif I had a lot of blackout these few months and my Maxtor 300GB started to give bad sectors. Just 4KB but it's there ... and everytime Windows startup, it always want to check the HD. I've started burning like mad and hopefully maybe i'll get another drive soon. Probably WD.
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mine also suffer 8kb, u better start low level format it asap.

QUOTE(Geminist @ Feb 23 2006, 08:45 AM)
Seriously, I'm starting to have doubts in toshiba notebook hdds.

My friend's hdd died few weeks ago, then it's another friend's hdd and mine died few days ago. All of us are using toshiba hdds sad.gif

Got myself a samsung 60 GB due to the limited choice, hopefully it'll work out fine. laugh.gif
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toshiba nb hdd since last yr cant count on, better off go for hitachi only.
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Anyway.. i donno is it posted already.. i lz to glance through 17 pages.. lolx
Maxtor is sold to Seagate already..
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Anyway.. i donno is it posted already.. i lz to glance through 17 pages.. lolx
Maxtor is sold to Seagate already..
Old news already. In fact a thread on "Seagate To Buy Maxtor" was posted here back in December 26, 2005... on the same day the news was announced. doh.gif

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 23 2006, 02:05 PM)
mine also suffer 8kb, u better start low level format it asap.
toshiba nb hdd since last yr cant count on, better off go for hitachi only.
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Haih. The hdd just died without any notice. It was working in the afternoon and when I turned on my lappy in the evening, there's some weird noise coming out from the hdd (something like the hdd can't run and some mechanical sound like something getting stuck).

Replaced it with an overpriced Samsung (damn the brits). sigh sweat.gif
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Toshiba's nothebook HDD is not reliable.

I have serviced 4 laptops in my office, all CLEVO notebooks from Taiwan but all using Toshiba HDDs.
All of them are between 3 - 5 years old.

1 HDD totally cannot detect.
1 HDD have plenty of bad sectors.
1 HDD have no bad sectors, but HDD controller failure while read/write causing slow loading and response, almost like HDD frozen.

The worst thing is Toshiba do not have any diagnostic utillity for their HDDs!
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QUOTE(Hattori @ Feb 25 2006, 09:34 AM)
Toshiba's nothebook HDD is not reliable.

I have serviced 4 laptops in my office, all CLEVO notebooks from Taiwan but all using Toshiba HDDs.
All of them are between 3 - 5 years old.

1 HDD totally cannot detect.
1 HDD have plenty of bad sectors.
1 HDD have no bad sectors, but HDD controller failure while read/write causing slow loading and response, almost like HDD frozen.

The worst thing is Toshiba do not have any diagnostic utillity for their HDDs!
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After seeing 3 hdd (including mine) died in almost the same time frame, I couldn't agree more.

Hopefully this samsung will last longer smile.gif
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After seeing 3 hdd (including mine) died in almost the same time frame, I couldn't agree more.

Hopefully this samsung will last longer smile.gif
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alamak..
you bought your Samsung hdd already....
why don't you give it a try for Seagate?!

but never mind, let see how good is the Samsung hdd can last....
later you can tell us how good it is....

for a hdd can last for 5 years, is it consider a good already?
or should be greater than that?

but mine 20G Quantum hdd, still dunning now without giving me any problem,
no bad sectors, no SMART error, none.. nothing...
it's already serving me well for about 6 years...
i predict, it's still can serve me another few more years, i think, let's see how...

i think, hdd can last for 5 years consider ok right? rather than a year problem occurs!! doh.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Feb 25 2006, 12:13 PM)
alamak..
you bought your Samsung hdd already....
why don't you give it a try for Seagate?!

but never mind, let see how good is the Samsung hdd can last....
later you can tell us how good it is....

for a hdd can last for 5 years, is it consider a good already?
or should be greater than that?

but mine 20G Quantum hdd, still dunning now without giving me any problem,
no bad sectors, no SMART error, none.. nothing...
it's already serving me well for about 6 years...
i predict, it's still can serve me another few more years, i think, let's see how...

i think, hdd can last for 5 years consider ok right? rather than a year problem occurs!!  doh.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 25 2006, 12:43 PM)
ur one is put inside ur laptop or serve as inside external enclosure?
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Actually I wanted to try out Seagate and such, it's just that, the PC World here is not selling any of those. All they are selling are Samsung sad.gif

However, I do find that the Samsung fluid bearing technology is rather interesting as my laptop is all quiet now.
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i have a 20GB seagate which served me for more than 4 years. partitioned, then merged, format, for countless times but until today no bad sector, never gives me any problem at all. i got another 40GB which i have had for about 2 years. last month bought another 200GB. all of them are quiet and problem free. i only trust seagate.
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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Feb 25 2006, 09:49 PM)
i have a 20GB seagate which served me for more than 4 years. partitioned, then merged, format, for countless times but until today no bad sector, never gives me any problem at all. i got another 40GB which i have had for about 2 years. last month bought another 200GB. all of them are quiet and problem free. i only trust seagate.
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Interestingly, i had the opposite effects,My 20gb(kicked the bucket),40gb(kicked the bucket also) and 60gb(knocking on heaven's door). However, there were no bad sectors huh.gif All were about 2-4 years old.

My WD 120GB(same year i bought the 60gb seagate) still runs rock solid thumbup.gif
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does anyone know where to send for warrenty service for WD?

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Feb 28 2006, 12:22 PM)
does anyone know where to send for warrenty service for WD?
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which shop u bought from? i can help u by below RM10 thumbup.gif
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I still like Quantum very much although it's already long gone. Still have a Quantum Fireball LM Plus 20GB. 6 years already and still kicking. smile.gif
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Sometimes I am really curious whether there is such necessity to cool the HDD? Coz I have not had no problems at all with hard drives since I had a PC. And my HDDs are always ready and never powered down when idle.

Are you guys in Malaysia getting high HDD temps?
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i'm using ati tool software and sometimes its reading is above 50 deg...any suggestion for software to monitor temp...including cpu temp
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The provided hardware monitoring tool by your motherboard? I'm using tat provided by DFI and it certianly help me out.
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QUOTE(albirri @ Mar 6 2006, 04:53 AM)
i'm using ati tool software and sometimes its reading is above 50 deg...any suggestion for software to monitor temp...including cpu temp
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But go download MBM5 or Smartfan.
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i'd been using maxtor for about 4 years..still got no prob..i think the main reason they are still in good working condition is that i kept them not 'overheat'..just put big fan aside them and kept air flowing through.. normal condition of them usually is around 30 degree celcius.. i think u all should try putting fan..very usefull smile.gif
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QUOTE(byter @ Mar 6 2006, 06:22 PM)
i'd been using maxtor for about 4 years..still got no prob..i think the main reason they are still in good working condition is that i kept them not 'overheat'..just put big fan aside them and kept air flowing through.. normal condition of them usually is around 30 degree celcius.. i think u all should try putting fan..very usefull smile.gif
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owh..it is? before this i think maxtor is more reliable than WD. thats why i always wondering why WD is more expensive than maxtor..thank God my hd still ok huhu
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I noticed something weird. The WD I bought Made in Malaysia, seems to get faulty pretty fast. Last time bought one, in a week got bad sectors. Then exchange. After a month, the new one totally gone. Then exchange for a Made in Thailand batch. Very good indeed. Now whenever I buy WD HDD, I know which one to buy. Just sharing some thing I experience here.
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QUOTE(kcnyc @ Mar 6 2006, 04:51 PM)
Sometimes I am really curious whether there is such necessity to cool the HDD?  Coz I have not had no problems at all with hard drives since I had a PC.  And my HDDs are always ready and never powered down when idle.

Are you guys in Malaysia getting high HDD temps?
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of course, malaysia hot like hell. sweat.gif

QUOTE(albirri @ Mar 6 2006, 04:53 PM)
i'm using ati tool software and sometimes its reading is above 50 deg...any suggestion for software to monitor temp...including cpu temp
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QUOTE(phoenix @ Mar 6 2006, 09:04 PM)
I noticed something weird. The WD I bought Made in Malaysia, seems to get faulty pretty fast. Last time bought one, in a week got bad sectors. Then exchange. After a month, the new one totally gone. Then exchange for a Made in Thailand batch. Very good indeed. Now whenever I buy WD HDD, I know which one to buy. Just sharing some thing I experience here.
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can share with us which shop carry thailand batch?
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i'm using 2 WD SATA HDD...
it already 1 year but still going great...=)
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Mar 7 2006, 01:55 PM)
of course, malaysia hot like hell.  sweat.gif
u can try cpu idle 7.0.
can share with us which shop carry thailand batch?
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Most of the shop carries Thailand batch. But maybe different size different country. Hmmm... Maybe can ask the sales person.
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My Seagate 10GB served me well from July 2000 till now. No bad sector at all.

Need you to clarify one question. My colleague says if we buy NOTEBOOK HDD and use it as external/ portable HDD, It doesn't need external casing. He said only the normal size 5.25" HDD need to buy external casing if used as external HDD. Is he right?
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hey, i hv a minor problem here, my seagate 80gb sata hdd is available at the 'safely remove hardware' there. is it possible to hide tit as i dun wan someone tangan gatal-gatal press it...
and can i use a ide hdd as slave?? and if hdd RIP(cant detect anymore),anyway to recover the file inside??is it possible??
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QUOTE(cactuscch @ Mar 8 2006, 12:41 AM)
My Seagate 10GB served me well from July 2000 till now. No bad sector at all.

Need you to clarify one question. My colleague says if we buy NOTEBOOK HDD and use it as external/ portable HDD, It doesn't need external casing. He said only the normal size 5.25" HDD need to buy external casing if used as external HDD. Is he right?
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QUOTE(cactuscch @ Mar 8 2006, 12:41 AM)
My Seagate 10GB served me well from July 2000 till now. No bad sector at all.

Need you to clarify one question. My colleague says if we buy NOTEBOOK HDD and use it as external/ portable HDD, It doesn't need external casing. He said only the normal size 5.25" HDD need to buy external casing if used as external HDD. Is he right?
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If buy notebook HDD, it will be better to buy one casing...
I saw some casing selling in bulk also... Less than RM40. for the casing.. something protect ur 300++ harddisk...

Also you will need the cable to connect hdd to your usbport...
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How bout portable harddisc?? i planing 2 get one 30-80gb i think... anyone can gimme some hint which brand and where got lower price one in KL ??

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Mar 14 2006, 11:58 AM)
How bout portable harddisc?? i planing 2 get one 30-80gb i think... anyone can gimme some hint which brand and where got lower price one in KL ??
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I got a 80GB Maxtor 2mb HDD....I suspect that its makin my war3 having fatal error. I also got a new gc 9550gt...Anyone know wat real problem of it?
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my very first was a Conners 210MB frm a Wearnes 486DX2-50 (AMD!!!)
then came the 270MB Quantum LPS
then the Quantum 6.4GB Fireball EX (crashed after 3yrs)
then the Seagate ATAIV 20GB (2001)
then the Seagate ATAIV 40GB (2002)

i had bad expereiences with the Quantums as back in uni time, all my housemates who owns a Quantum had their drives crashed just after the warranty period. and it HAD to happen during CRITICAL Assignment time... sigh. i bought WDs for my Aunt and Bro's setup, not too bad either. but i trust more on Seagate, somewhat... followed by WD and Samsung. no Maxtor, IBMs, Quantums for me..
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i once using seagate hd, and it spoilt when the warranty period is over.. then i buy wd.. b4 warranty period is over, it spoilt too (WTF?)... now im using maxtor 80gb, so far no problem smile.gif
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well to me, i think of all the manufacturers are now about the same quality, it still boils down to luck (maybe batch related - china/thailand/singapore).

first on brand selection, i believe is based on experience (reliability). each one of us have good trust on products that we own that did not fail, and bad experience shy us away from that brand that did fail... OR recomendation from friends from their experience. so with different comments from alot of forumers, u can tell that all

then comes the performance... WD has been reputed to be a performance oriented brand... but i guess there will be a suitable brand for each application (server, gaming, mobility, capacity, size, etc.). so review sites will give u numbers that would help u decide on ur next purchase

my 2 cents...
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Apr 4 2006, 02:07 AM)
i once using seagate hd, and it spoilt when the warranty period is over.. then i buy wd.. b4 warranty period is over, it spoilt too (WTF?)... now im using maxtor 80gb, so far no problem smile.gif
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IBM now bundle pc with western digital hdd too.. i have some time playing with my relative computer when she place the pc over my house for a month for me to fix it...

so far i have 1 maxtor, 40gb bought 4 years ago... still going strong with 24-7 BTing

Western DIgital 160gb... this drive seems idle.. only to store my songs/movie only..

quantum 1gb, throw away edi... still perfect condition after 13 years...regret doing so .....

samsung 20gb... so far so good.. so far yet to crash any hdd b4
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my personal computer at home has 2 hard disk drives currently...

one is the old 80gb...forgot the brand, if not mistaken is either maxtor or wd..

the new one is seagate's 200gb...been close to one month now..seems fine to me..no problem at all. but the main reason i chose seagate rather than the rest is because of the warranty status. with 5 years warranty. save the hassle for finding some retailers to fix it for me. i have three other spoilt hard disks, including one portable hard disk...all without warranty.. waste of money.
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QUOTE(kimberly32 @ Apr 6 2006, 12:09 PM)
my personal computer at home has 2 hard disk drives currently...

one is the old 80gb...forgot the brand, if not mistaken is either maxtor or wd..

the new one is seagate's 200gb...been close to one month now..seems fine to me..no problem at all. but the main reason i chose seagate rather than the rest is because of the warranty status. with 5 years warranty. save the hassle for finding some retailers to fix it for me. i have three other spoilt hard disks, including one portable hard disk...all without warranty.. waste of money.
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Seagate warranty is 1-to-1 swap?
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my hdd, 160 gig western digital buy half year ago...
now send back to the company claimed warranty sad.gif

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 10 2005, 02:13 AM)
That's the point haha!!!
my ex-WD , 80g, 1 year old, hdd has S.M.A.R.T error, and lost some of my important data!! But manage to back up 80% of the data, better than nothing. I say 80% because come file unable to copied, data lock, and some corrupted eventhough sucessfully backup.

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Does your file in chinese word ???

If yes rename it before copy it ...

coz I have face this problem my hard disk is Seagate Barracuda 120G...

what i get is cannot right click on all file with chinese name ...

after format everythings is ok now ....

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Where can buy the sumsung hard disk ???

Can get at lyp ???

The price for 120G and 160G Sata is how much ???

I can find from the price list....
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 5 2006, 08:52 PM)
IBM now bundle pc with western digital hdd too.. i have some time playing with my relative computer when she place the pc over my house for a month for me to fix it...

so far i have 1 maxtor, 40gb bought 4 years ago... still going strong with 24-7 BTing

Western DIgital 160gb... this drive seems idle.. only to store my songs/movie only..

quantum 1gb, throw away edi... still perfect condition after 13 years...regret doing so .....

samsung 20gb... so far so good.. so far yet to crash any hdd b4
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QUOTE(denver1347 @ Apr 13 2006, 05:18 PM)
Where can buy the sumsung hard disk ???

Can get at lyp ???

The price for 120G and 160G Sata is how much ???

I can find from the price list....
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Why would u be interested in samsung?

Better go for Seagate il say smile.gif
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QUOTE(denver1347 @ Apr 13 2006, 05:18 PM)
Where can buy the sumsung hard disk ???

Can get at lyp ???

The price for 120G and 160G Sata is how much ???

I can find from the price list....
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samsung is quite expensive go for seagate or wd
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QUOTE(chunhau @ Mar 15 2006, 11:56 PM)
I got a 80GB Maxtor 2mb HDD....I suspect that its makin my war3 having fatal error. I also got a new gc 9550gt...Anyone know wat real problem of it?
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possibly bad sector
same w/ mine...so frustrated bcos owes hit the spikes strip in NFSHP2, i kicked my pc damn hard doh.gif next time play same game, my car sliced into 2...WTH? rclxub.gif later my hdd started ticking loudly n poof!!!it became coco crunch rclxms.gif
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I had buy 60 GB Maxtor and already use 4 years...but doesn't have any problem yet...
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QUOTE(strikefreedom @ Apr 16 2006, 02:16 AM)
I had buy 60 GB Maxtor and already use 4 years...but doesn't have any problem yet...
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mine from SG...since 2k3...still kicking, jz temp is abit hi...around 50 when in heavy usage icon_question.gif
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Hi all,

Want to ask, is there any good software to scan the HDD for bad sector, physical scan or whatever scan to check if there's any prob with HDD?

Some files on my HDD suddenly become corrupted...want to make sure if the HDD is ok sweat.gif
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the software from the manufacturer's site?
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i got a western d cavaliar se 120gb 7200rpm and 8mb cache, but died in 8 months
my maxtor(4got wud model edi) 40gb, used 4 yrs, no problem at all.......
now, planning to warranty tat western d n buy another seagate barracuda.....
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yayaya.. seagate rocks... i got a 120gb seagate used for two years liao.. from fitness drop from 100% to 42% but performance maintained at 100% (source from speedfan)... due to whole year non stop excessive default hd for bt.. hehe..
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Apr 17 2006, 09:47 AM)
yayaya.. seagate rocks... i got a 120gb seagate used for two years liao.. from  fitness drop from 100% to 42% but performance maintained at 100% (source from speedfan)... due to whole year non stop excessive default hd for bt.. hehe..
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that's alot
my 3 yrs old fireball still in 95% region 4 both indicators
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heheh.. but mine weird.. one year ago at 42, now also 42% not changing anymore... probably not fully use of it as last year la.. and although it indicates 42% only.. i dont really feel the difference as it was in 100% lo.. hehe...
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Apr 17 2006, 09:57 AM)
heheh.. but mine weird.. one year ago at 42, now also 42% not changing anymore... probably not fully use of it as last year la.. and although it indicates 42% only.. i dont really feel the difference as it was in 100% lo.. hehe...
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seagate's SMART fitness readings are different from other HDD manufacturers
thats why you will see the fitness reading far lower compare to other brand of HDDs
i have two seagates, one maxtor, one samsung and another WD connected together
and i found out the seagates' fitnesse is the lowest among all
even on my friend's comp also the same thing
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well I don't see a point reading the SMART unless your hdd starts to give problem tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Apr 17 2006, 10:42 AM)
well I don't see a point reading the SMART unless your hdd starts to give problem tongue.gif
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just a safety precautious so that no need 2 commit suicide when hdd die... icon_rolleyes.gif
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is Raptor dropping price? how much is the raptor currently? where to get those? i saw the price, there is so much different between shops.

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QUOTE(mitodna @ Apr 17 2006, 11:00 AM)
is Raptor dropping price? how much is the raptor currently? where to get those? i saw the price, there is so much different between shops.

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Apr 16 2006, 06:53 PM)
the software from the manufacturer's site?
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Thanks for pointing that out.... i found one from Maxtor for my HDD notworthy.gif

QUOTE(youngkies @ Apr 17 2006, 09:47 AM)
yayaya.. seagate rocks... i got a 120gb seagate used for two years liao.. from  fitness drop from 100% to 42% but performance maintained at 100% (source from speedfan)... due to whole year non stop excessive default hd for bt.. hehe..
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About this speedfan software, well, i try try to dl it after seeing ur post there, lol.
BTW, under SMART, i run a in depth online analyst, and i get this

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NOTE : your hard disk Power Cycle Count attribute current value (245) is below the normal range (247 - 253) reported for your specific hard disk model. Basically your hard disk was power cycled more times than the maximum number the average hard disk was. Power cycles put some stress on the hard disk mechanic. Sometimes power cycles can be caused by a loose hard disk power connector. Make sure it is properly fastened.


The overall fitness for this drive is 90%.
The overall performance for this drive is 90%.


Indeed the power cycle is lower that the range.... anyway to fix this? or izzit important.... it says there it will put mechanic stress on the HDD sweat.gif
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I'm looking for a device which can lock up a harddrive so that no copying file is allowed. Anyone can recommend me what device to use? or probably software which can do the same thing.

Your help would be appreciated.
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how do we know the motherboard can support SATA or SATA II?
btw, what's a PATA? same as IDE?

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it should be stated on your board if it supports sata or not... most boards now support it while some are going on to sata 2
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 16 2006, 08:47 AM)
Hi all,

Want to ask, is there any good software to scan the HDD for bad sector, physical scan or whatever scan to check if there's any prob with HDD?

Some files on my HDD suddenly become corrupted...want to make sure if the HDD is ok sweat.gif
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just use ms scan disk is enough.
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btw,does using a Raptor makes a noticeable difference compared to normal hdds??what's the price currently for the 76Gb version?
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Apr 18 2006, 08:12 PM)
btw,does using a Raptor makes a noticeable difference compared to normal hdds??what's the price currently for the 76Gb version?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Apr 19 2006, 03:15 PM)
u sure 80gb is enough for u?
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ya la why not.even my current 80 gb hdd not even reached 60 gb yet sweat.gif
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hurm..
my fren use raptor n he tell only small differs..then he bought another 1 n going for raid..this time got big different..(76bbx2 raid 0)

nway iam using maxtor 120gb since 2003..glad speedfan show full bar...
this is the only one maxtor tht last dis long
my 40gig dead in 2 years time..
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jus bought a new WD1600JS Sata2
the fitness lvl is 94%, issit normal?i thought new hdd should be 100%?
and my WD800JB used 3 yrs edi, stil 100% performance, 88% fitness, lol tats y i trust WD, heavy BTed oso, damn ns
anyway wats the suitable temperature for a hdd, my hdd is 55C, issit normal?

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QUOTE(superpc @ Apr 24 2006, 06:03 PM)
jus bought a new WD1600JS Sata2
the fitness lvl is 94%, issit normal?i thought new hdd should be 100%?
and my WD800JB used 3 yrs edi, stil 100% performance, 88% fitness, lol tats y i trust WD, heavy BTed oso, damn ns
anyway wats the suitable temperature for a hdd, my hdd is 55C, issit normal?
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i heard some batch of wd hdd got firmware problem, maybe urs one of them, mine oso running 55c idle....
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Apr 25 2006, 02:41 PM)
i heard some batch of wd hdd got firmware problem, maybe urs one of them, mine oso running 55c idle....
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so is tat jus a firmware prob or hadware defect?if hardware defect gonna go RMA it
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Got a SATAII WD2000JS yesterday for RM315.
Gonna plug in this weekend.

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Hey guys, i wonder that whether a motherboard that supports both ATA and SATA hardisk could support the both types of harddisk when connected at the same time?
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QUOTE(shumaky @ Apr 27 2006, 09:55 AM)
Got a SATAII WD2000JS yesterday for RM315.
Gonna plug in this weekend.
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Make sure you buy a hdd coller for it. Got alot of complaints regarding WD200gb sataII about heat problem.
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QUOTE(mars @ Apr 27 2006, 05:47 PM)
Hey guys, i wonder that whether a motherboard that supports both ATA and SATA hardisk could support the both types of harddisk when connected at the same time?
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I tried to connect 1 ATA and 1 SATA hdd together one a computer, it works. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Gxen @ Apr 27 2006, 08:06 PM)
Make sure you buy a hdd coller for it. Got alot of complaints regarding WD200gb sataII about heat problem.
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but mine alwiz cooler than my 80GB sata 1
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QUOTE(ksking @ Apr 28 2006, 11:02 AM)
but mine alwiz cooler than my 80GB sata 1
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QUOTE(shumaky @ Apr 27 2006, 09:55 AM)
Got a SATAII WD2000JS yesterday for RM315.
Gonna plug in this weekend.
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also same 3yr warranty like other range?
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I checked all 3 HDD manufacturer, WD, Seagate and Samsung.

It seems that WD has a much lower power requirement. and seagate only draw power from +12V rail. While the WD and Samsung draw from both +5V and +12V rail My PSU has plently of +5V rail but I doubt +12V has enough, because I think my 6600 overclocked edition(510MHz/1.1GHz) might draw a lot power from +12V rail

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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 30 2006, 08:57 PM)
I checked all 3 HDD manufacturer, WD, Seagate and Samsung.

It seems that WD has a much lower power requirement. and seagate only draw power from +12V rail. While the WD and Samsung draw from both +5V and +12V rail My PSU has plently of +5V rail but I doubt +12V has enough, because I think my 6600 overclocked edition(510MHz/1.1GHz) might draw a lot power from +12V rail

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Hi all,

Just bought WD 160 PATA...

I found out... that... my hard disk top cover is silverish...
but my cousin's one is black...

Does this means... I got an old stock?


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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Apr 30 2006, 03:39 PM)
also same 3yr warranty like other range?
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Yup, 3 years.. I registered my HD online that day.. icon_idea.gif
But system havent test yet as Proc just arrive today and Case to arrive later today.
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im stil using IDE HDD till today. recently i would like to buy a 250GB HDD. which brand u guys recommend?
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QUOTE(adrianocy @ May 2 2006, 12:46 PM)
im stil using IDE HDD till today. recently i would like to buy a 250GB HDD. which brand u guys recommend?
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buy those made in singapore or philipines punya as told by others.
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i hear some forumer say the WD is the good brand for HD, but i have many frenz was having touble when using the WD IDE HDD.....some is only using for few weeks, then need to send back for RMA..... wink.gif
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QUOTE(joenjill @ May 3 2006, 04:30 PM)
i hear some forumer say the WD is the good brand for HD, but i have many frenz was having touble when using the WD IDE HDD.....some is only using for few weeks, then need to send back for RMA..... wink.gif
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they using the 2mb or 8mb? sweat.gif
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ohhhh crap... seeing u guys previous post make me worry... recently juz bought a 250GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10.... made in china... from a guy at lowyat.net.... hope it won't go KONG fast.... :S
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I have noticed quite a number of people bought "Maxtor QuickView" drives for use with their desktop PCs (and/or for external data storage). Please beware that these drives are NOT meant for proper data storage purposes! Please check the following statement in BOLD RED (source: Maxtor QuickView Hard Drives - Built for your DVR, PVR and Consumer Electronics Devices):
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QuickView drives have a few key differences from normal desktop drives that make them far superior to desktop drives for PVR usage:

    * Thermal Control: On board sensors monitor temperature and adjust characteristics as necessary to keep the temperature optimal.
    * Durability: These drives run at 7200 RPM - more than fast enough for every PVR (providing about three times the necessary peak throughput) but not fast enough to wear out sooner.
    * Acoustic Management: Maxtor QuickView drives are specially tuned to run as quietly as possible.
    * A/V Streaming: QuickView drives have been optimized and tuned to provide consistent data to the PVR processor. Standard desktop drives can hang while retrying drive reads - QuickView drives know to move ahead and provide more data to keep video smooth.
    * Error Recovery: Desktop drives retry on errors to make sure that your Excel spreadsheet is exactly right - it's imperative. But when watching video, if one block of data is bad, you may not even notice a dark spot on one frame for 1/30th of a second. So these drives are tuned to move past errors faster, putting the stream of data as top priority. Where desktop drives often cause stutters, these drives run smooth.
FYI: These "QuickView" drives are based on DiamonadMax 10 desktop drives. Regards. wink.gif
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QUOTE(lex @ May 5 2006, 02:35 PM)
NOTICE

I have noticed quite a number of people bought "Maxtor QuickView" drives for use with their desktop PCs (and/or for external data storage). Please beware that these drives are NOT meant for proper data storage purposes! Please check the following statement in BOLD RED (source: Maxtor QuickView Hard Drives - Built for your DVR, PVR and Consumer Electronics Devices): FYI: These "QuickView" drives are based on DiamonadMax 10 desktop drives. Regards. wink.gif
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can make the explaination more simple, as really dun understand actually. thx notworthy.gif
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Hmm... anyone know the price for a 250GB Caviar16SE?
I can't find it anywhere in Malaysia...
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 6 2006, 08:43 PM)
can make the explaination more simple, as really dun understand actually. thx notworthy.gif
Means that Maxtor QuickView drive will "skip" or drop data from slow sectors or from sectors that contains errors (will NOT retry re-reading the sector). Thus, there may be "gaps" in the data read back.. wink.gif

FYI: Normal desktop HDDs wil retry reading slow sectors and/or sectors with errors to ensure the data is available. If the sector could not be read (or found), then it will report an error (such as "cyclic redundancy error" or "bad block") instead of skipping it.. cool.gif

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 7 2006, 07:59 AM)
Hmm... anyone know the price for a 250GB Caviar16SE?
I can't find it anywhere in Malaysia...
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should be arund RM330, i saw it when i bought my 320G HDD.
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QUOTE(lex @ May 10 2006, 10:49 AM)
Means that Maxtor QuickView drive will "skip" or drop data from slow sectors or from sectors that contains errors (will NOT retry re-reading the sector). Thus, there may be "gaps" in the data read back..  wink.gif

FYI: Normal desktop HDDs wil retry reading slow sectors and/or sectors with errors to ensure the data is available. If the sector could not be read (or found), then it will report an error (such as "cyclic redundancy error" or "bad block") instead of skipping it..  cool.gif
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but after seagate merge it, maxtor still continue tis useless technology or not, hope no loh. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 12 2006, 09:37 AM)
but after seagate merge it, maxtor still continue tis useless technology or not, hope no loh.  sweat.gif
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Eventhough Seagate meage with Maxtor but somehow the HDD from Maxtor still the same.I think in short period Maxtor will continue with thier old technology.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 12 2006, 07:00 PM)
Eventhough Seagate meage with Maxtor but somehow the HDD from Maxtor still the same.I think in short period Maxtor will continue with thier old technology.
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i like WD coz WD have good performance
but..... my WD2500JS hot till sux


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recently a lot of report of failure of WD 80GB PATA, make me worry of mine now, will ask a fren of mine who said different country of HDD manufacturer can get different quality, will post out the rate here later after i ask him.
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my mobo (D865PERL) only supports SATA1... would it be beneficial to get a 16MB cache SATA2?

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QUOTE(daruma @ May 21 2006, 09:12 AM)
my mobo (D865PERL)  only supports SATA1... would it be beneficial to get a 16MB cache SATA2?
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wah....don kong me....i jsut want to buy wd 80gb ><"
but my 20gb maxtor using for 5 years > still in good condition
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ May 21 2006, 11:48 AM)
wah....don kong me....i jsut want to buy wd 80gb ><"
but my 20gb maxtor using for 5 years > still in good condition
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u try scan for bad record & c first.
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ya...lol..forgot to think of 'SCAN"
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I have two hard disk, both are Western Digital.
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ZzZzZZZZ....we know lar...u got 2 hdd but how is the condition ?
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ May 24 2006, 08:59 AM)
ZzZzZZZZ....we know lar...u got 2 hdd but how is the condition ?
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yup, is it both good choice?
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Just a bit of news. Seagate has fully taken over Maxtor.

Official: Seagate Technology - SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY COMPLETES ACQUISITION OF MAXTOR CORPORATION

Other news sites:

- The Register - Seagate swallows Maxtor
- RealTech News -Seagate Buys Maxtor
- Macworld Daily News - Seagate, Maxtor merge approved
ZDNet - Shareholders clear Seagate's Maxtor takeover
..etc..

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QUOTE(lex @ May 24 2006, 05:29 PM)
poor thing, end up, been take over by other... doh.gif

i am using my 80GB, 2mb buffer...
so far so good... let see how long does this hdd will survive!! sweat.gif

i am going to buy larger hdd, need to have more spaces to store files.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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they will still maintain the brand maxtor
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 24 2006, 07:29 PM)
they will still maintain the brand maxtor
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maxtor will soon disappear or maybe become "seator"? icon_rolleyes.gif
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haih..poor maxtor...but their hdd is good wut..
mine 20gb still holding more than 5 years...
but seagate ade more than 10 years 10gb smile.gif
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ May 26 2006, 07:42 PM)
haih..poor maxtor...but their hdd is good wut..
mine 20gb still holding more than 5 years...
but seagate ade more than 10 years 10gb smile.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 26 2006, 09:30 PM)
u hadnt do a disc scan for bad sector?
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how to do disc scan?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 26 2006, 07:38 PM)
maxtor will soon disappear or maybe become "seator"?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wont disappear... seagate want to retain the brand name
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how to do disc scan?
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errrmm...lazy to scan lar ><"
can use okay le
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 27 2006, 09:37 AM)
wat windows u using? use the MS disc scan by select througouh.
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QUOTE(gsdfan @ May 27 2006, 01:34 PM)
sorry noob here, I'm using winxp. care to tell?
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i think seagate take over the maxtor will make it better because i think the people working in maxtor can wake up and start do their work.
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hi ppl, i ned recommendation for an external HDD casing and external HDD for a notebook..i think i'll get a WD HDD but abt the casing,I'm not sure..wat's a good brand? I've noticed on the pricelist's that they group external HDD in 2 categories-Combo & USB, wat's the difference?

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hi ppl... my old seagate 20g harddisk just dead.. i found some weird sound when i start up the computer.. it was like the disk spinning inside was hitting something.

pc cannot detect harddisk some times. even if the bios detected, it will automatically restart when i try to enter the windows.

so here is my problems now. i will buy a new harddisk tomorrow. the TARGET i aimed is 80GBs with MAXTOR or WESTERN DIGITAL. i want to copy some important files from my previous harddisk.. (i think the files stll not corrupted) is it better for me to buy a SATA harddisk? will my motherboard supports 2 harddisk simultenously? (both IDE and SATA).

pls help me... and thx in advance!!
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QUOTE(icycokes @ Jun 4 2006, 08:18 PM)
hi ppl... my old seagate 20g harddisk just dead.. i found some weird sound when i start up the computer.. it was like the disk spinning inside was hitting something.

pc cannot detect harddisk some times. even if the bios detected, it will automatically restart when i try to enter the windows.

so here is my problems now. i will buy a new harddisk tomorrow. the TARGET i aimed is 80GBs with MAXTOR or WESTERN DIGITAL. i want to copy some important files from my previous harddisk.. (i think the files stll not corrupted) is it better for me to buy a SATA harddisk? will my motherboard supports 2 harddisk simultenously? (both IDE and SATA).

pls help me... and thx in advance!!
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I wonder whether your BIOS will be able to detect the new 80GB hdd that you are about to purchase.
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jun 4 2006, 08:21 PM)
I wonder whether your BIOS will be able to detect the new 80GB hdd that you are about to purchase.
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hi, thx for the reply.. i don't know le.. it was an old VIA motherboard.. u think can detect ma? if it can detect, then can use both hds at the same time?
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i bought my external HDD a months ago..60GB seagate momentus 5400..how ever, after i used it for i found that my total capacity including used and free disc spaces left only 55.87 GB..is this normal or there is something wrong with my HDD?
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QUOTE(nimloth32 @ Jun 4 2006, 08:25 PM)
i bought my external HDD a months ago..60GB seagate momentus 5400..how ever, after i used it for i found that my total capacity including used and free disc spaces left only 55.87 GB..is this normal or there is something wrong with my HDD?
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paise, paise..i am not pro in hardware..hehe..

btw, is there anyway to prevent the bad sector problem??..notworthy.gif
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paise, paise..i am not pro in hardware..hehe..

btw, is there anyway to prevent the bad sector problem??..notworthy.gif
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Quantum is really so good. my two Quantum Fireball Plus 20 GB still running without any bad sector. THey have operated for six years biggrin.gif

another Quantum 2 GB (old harddisk nowadays) also still okay, but it has too small cache, less than 1 MB cache.

I really missed the Quantum which had drew away from consumer harddisk. They now only focused on the enterprise solution such as SCSI harddisk.

anyone can tell me which harddisk can stand longer than 5 years? I hope that all my harddisk including new 80 GB WD PATA will not give any problem within several years

just want to share this link with u all smile.gif ---> http://hddguru.com/



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QUOTE(coolblade @ Jul 2 2006, 09:56 PM)
Quantum is really so good. my two Quantum Fireball Plus 20 GB still running without any bad sector. THey have operated for six years  biggrin.gif

another Quantum 2 GB (old harddisk nowadays) also still okay, but it has too small cache, less than 1 MB cache.

I really missed the Quantum which had drew away from consumer harddisk. They now only focused on the enterprise solution such as SCSI harddisk.

anyone can tell me which harddisk can stand longer than 5 years? I hope that all my harddisk including new 80 GB WD PATA will not give any problem within several years

just want to share this link with u all smile.gif ---> http://hddguru.com/
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maybe u should looking for scsi perhaps. sweat.gif
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what happen to Quantum ?
If they produce good hdd they should stay longer?
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they drew away from consumer harddisk, such as ur PATA type harddisk.
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can formating the hard disk often do damage on it?
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can formating the hard disk often do damage on it?
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still ok, just dun do often low level format.
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does frequent defrag helps pro long hdd life?
hw do i scan bad sectors? wink.gif

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 3 2006, 07:59 PM)
wat do u mean by low level format?
does frequent defrag helps pro long hdd life?
hw do i scan bad sectors?  wink.gif

my gf's maxtor hdd sata wanna die oledi..recent got cracking sound...n whn loading data or doin data transfer the sounds got louder n poof....whole pc freeze n hang thr..... doh.gif
jz used 1 yr++  rclxub.gif
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Quantum is not bought by Maxtor corp meh?
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Quantum is not bought by Maxtor corp meh?
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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 3 2006, 07:59 PM)
wat do u mean by low level format?
does frequent defrag helps pro long hdd life?
hw do i scan bad sectors?  wink.gif

my gf's maxtor hdd sata wanna die oledi..recent got cracking sound...n whn loading data or doin data transfer the sounds got louder n poof....whole pc freeze n hang thr..... doh.gif
jz used 1 yr++  rclxub.gif
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Just to let everyone know (in case they didn't read today's Intech):

Those with WD drives bought from March 2001 - 15 Feb 2006 can claim for free backup software from WD. Might be useful to some. smile.gif
I just applied for mine. They'll send a link via e-mail.

http://www.wdc.com/settlement.

Valid WD HDD serial number required.
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Jul 5 2006, 12:01 AM)
Just to let everyone know (in case they didn't read today's Intech):

Those with WD drives bought from March 2001 - 15 Feb 2006 can claim for free backup software from WD. Might be useful to some.  smile.gif
I just applied for mine. They'll send a link via e-mail.

http://www.wdc.com/settlement.

Valid WD HDD serial number required.
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Jul 5 2006, 12:01 AM)
Just to let everyone know (in case they didn't read today's Intech):

Those with WD drives bought from March 2001 - 15 Feb 2006 can claim for free backup software from WD. Might be useful to some.  smile.gif
I just applied for mine. They'll send a link via e-mail.

http://www.wdc.com/settlement.

Valid WD HDD serial number required.
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I would rather want them to give me a discount voucher so that the next time WD HDD i can the discount. Thats more practical. smile.gif
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Hey guys, just thought I'd share this with all of you.

Bought a new Seagate 250GB hard drive from Low Yat last week. Installed it the next day and it just wouldn't work. I think it was just my luck that I got the 1 faulty drive in the whole shipment. Anyway, went to their website, put in an RMA and sent my hard drive to the centre in Menara Summit. Received a receipt confirmation email 2 days later (sent it on a Friday) and still didn't get a replacement after another 2 days. I sent in a complaint to Seagate Malaysia and they forwarded it to the regional manager. That was yesterday. Today, the regional manager emailed me to say that the drive I bought was currently out of stock and it would take another 2 weeks to get new stock. So, he offered me a 400GB hard drive in exchange!! Now happily waiting for new 400 GB hard drive to arrive. biggrin.gif Not bad... pay for 250GB get 400Gb and their customer service is excellent, normally only takes 4-5 days and if longer or no stock, they give you a better one. I'm now a strong supporter of Seagate. Seagate for life!!

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I would rather want them to give me a discount voucher so that the next time WD HDD i can the discount. Thats more practical.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(Hellkite @ Jul 5 2006, 03:01 PM)
Hey guys, just thought I'd share this with all of you.

Bought a new Seagate 250GB hard drive from Low Yat last week. Installed it the next day and it just wouldn't work. I think it was just my luck that I got the 1 faulty drive in the whole shipment. Anyway, went to their website, put in an RMA and sent my hard drive to the centre in Menara Summit. Received a receipt confirmation email 2 days later (sent it on a Friday) and still didn't get a replacement after another 2 days. I sent in a complaint to Seagate Malaysia and they forwarded it to the regional manager. That was yesterday. Today, the regional manager emailed me to say that the drive I bought was currently out of stock and it would take another 2 weeks to get new stock. So, he offered me a 400GB hard drive in exchange!! Now happily waiting for new 400 GB hard drive to arrive.  biggrin.gif  Not bad... pay for 250GB get 400Gb and their customer service is excellent, normally only takes 4-5 days and if longer or no stock, they give you a better one. I'm now a strong supporter of Seagate. Seagate for life!!
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QUOTE(Hellkite @ Jul 5 2006, 03:01 PM)
Hey guys, just thought I'd share this with all of you.

Bought a new Seagate 250GB hard drive from Low Yat last week. Installed it the next day and it just wouldn't work. I think it was just my luck that I got the 1 faulty drive in the whole shipment. Anyway, went to their website, put in an RMA and sent my hard drive to the centre in Menara Summit. Received a receipt confirmation email 2 days later (sent it on a Friday) and still didn't get a replacement after another 2 days. I sent in a complaint to Seagate Malaysia and they forwarded it to the regional manager. That was yesterday. Today, the regional manager emailed me to say that the drive I bought was currently out of stock and it would take another 2 weeks to get new stock. So, he offered me a 400GB hard drive in exchange!! Now happily waiting for new 400 GB hard drive to arrive.  biggrin.gif  Not bad... pay for 250GB get 400Gb and their customer service is excellent, normally only takes 4-5 days and if longer or no stock, they give you a better one. I'm now a strong supporter of Seagate. Seagate for life!!
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400gb? shocking.gif wait i buy a 80gb & try to rma for it too.
how long ur hdd spoilt? after u open 24 hours? sweat.gif
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Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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wd re2 now selling how much for 160gb now?
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Hey just want to ask. i have a 250G HDD with me now and i am using the external casing for it. problem is, sometimes it detects sometimes it doesnt.

any idea? or is the any way program i can run to check its reliability?
thanks

btw. the casing should be in good condition
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Hurhur, I am in the verge of getting either a 160 gig IDE HD or a 200GB.
If its you guys, which do you prefer?

I know its extra 10-20 bucks but I'm just afraid that well you know the bigger the space capacity the more its prone to BAD SECTOR.

Right now I'm thinking of WD or Seagate..
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guys, my seagate 160gb sata is going to die soon(just use it for 6 months already got many bad sectors...cry.gif)
i need to buy a new one to replace it
budget rm250, any recommendation?
between, my mobo only support sata1.
samsung, WD or seagate again?
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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.
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How anyone seen this drive in LYP ? If so, how much are they selling for?
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 13 2006, 01:36 PM)
guys, my seagate 160gb sata is going to die soon(just use it for 6 months already got many bad sectors...cry.gif)
i need to buy a new one to replace it
budget rm250, any recommendation?
between, my mobo only support sata1.
samsung, WD or seagate again?
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try to format the whole drive and check again. maybe is virtual bad sector. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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RE2 cant even find in cycom, viewnet & czone ler. doh.gif

QUOTE(bengang13 @ Jul 12 2006, 01:22 PM)
Hey just want to ask. i have a 250G HDD with me now and i am using the external casing for it. problem is, sometimes it detects sometimes it doesnt.

any idea? or is the any way program i can run to check its  reliability?
thanks

btw. the casing should be in good condition
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ur casing only stable lower than 250gb?

QUOTE(kerry1136 @ Jul 13 2006, 12:38 PM)
Hurhur, I am in the verge of getting either a 160 gig IDE HD or a 200GB.
If its you guys, which do you prefer?

I know its extra 10-20 bucks but I'm just afraid that well you know the bigger the space capacity the more its prone to BAD SECTOR.

Right now I'm thinking of WD or Seagate..
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i also thinking of getting seagte sata but after read above post, i need to think again. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Jul 13 2006, 04:26 PM)
try to format the whole drive and check again. maybe is virtual bad sector. unsure.gif
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i tried
the condition is even worse now, the system will lag after a while quite frequently. doh.gif
lotsa damaged sectors found with HDtune.
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what psu you use? one of my friend who was using MEC psu last time got his every component of pc damage 1 by 1 while another guy who use Enlight never had single component fail for several years.
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Jul 13 2006, 08:15 PM)
what psu you use? one of my friend who was using MEC psu last time got his every component  of pc damage 1 by 1 while another guy who use Enlight never had single component fail for several years.
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this is a realiable psu after i did a research in some forums.
no choice now, i think the hdd is hopeless now.
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i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs? rclxm9.gif
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Maxtor always noisier than Seagate and WD in my own experinces.
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QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 02:57 AM)
i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs?  rclxm9.gif
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i think usually, OEM HD is of poor quality, regardless of brand...i think companies like DELL, HP etc, paid peanuts for rejected HDD from the hard disk manufacturers in order to maximize profits.

I've also 1 old 15GB Seagate OEM from a HP machine, noisy like hell, slow and can roast chicken if you touch it. (No joking! they should put a label like "DON'T TOUCH WHILE HDD IS IN OPERATION! HEAT WARNING!").

Anyway, IMO, I still think Seagate HDD is the best. I've a few of them, 5 years, 3 years, 2 years, 1 year, all excellent condition.

Also, sometimes it really depends on your other condition, etc, a good PSU is really the number 1 factor in extending the lifespan of your PC. El-cheapo PSU can cause all kinda damages in the long run. If you use el-cheapo PSU, you can check with some software and see that the power is not stable and always goes up and down. With a good PSU, the power is stable and your machine rarely ever hangs.

other factors like heat is another factor. if your casing is like a microwave oven stuff to the brim and you run 24/7, of course your HDD will die faster!

So perhaps, you guys should also tell how you run your HDD so that a clearer picture and more useful info can be analysed here.

Anyway, here's my take:

Item 1
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1) 120GB Seagate - 3yrs plus
2) 20GB Seagate - 5 yrs plus

PC -
430W ChiefTec PSU ( quite a good PSU, PC never hangs ever since i switched to it from my old-cheap PSU)
Casing - Tower ATX , with lots of room to spare and about 5 casing fans.
Usage - Avg 2 hours/day.


Item 2
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1) 40GB Seagate - 2 yrs

PC
Cheap PSU that comes with ATX casing
Casing - ATX Mini-Tower, avg room with no additional casing fan
Usage - very rare!! 1 hrs/week??


Item 3
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1) 80GB Seagate - 1 yrs+

XBOX
- use as HDD replacement for my XBOX
- cramp as hell, no room inside the XBOX casing and what fan?? LOL.
Usage - 3hrs/week


If there's 1 brand that i won't buy, it gotta be Maxtor...there's so many problems with Maxtor HDD from my client office...i think many people has bad experience with them.


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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 13 2006, 04:37 PM)
RE2 cant even find in cycom, viewnet & czone ler.  doh.gif
ur casing only stable lower than 250gb?
i also thinking of getting seagte sata but after read above post, i need to think again.  sweat.gif
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so i need to how much the case support is it?care to elaborate? coz i have 400g hdd that i have not try yet..thanks
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 13 2006, 08:06 PM)
i tried
the condition is even worse now, the system will lag after a while quite frequently. doh.gif
lotsa damaged sectors found with HDtune.
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HDtune? wat sw is tat? intro?

QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 02:57 AM)
i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs?  rclxm9.gif
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same goes to my compaq western 20gb hdd.

QUOTE(bengang13 @ Jul 14 2006, 04:23 PM)
so i need to how much the case support is it?care to elaborate? coz i have 400g hdd that i have not try yet..thanks
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ur is sata or pata? try sata coolermaster if u using the sata.
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so now i get it, companies like dell, hp use OEM products...and usually its quite noisy, but so far no problem, working fine only the noise can be irritatating sometimes..but it cant be called as rejected hardware right?? haha laugh.gif

anyway, dell uses philips dvd-rw, another oem product which cant be bought in the market... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 08:09 PM)
so now i get it, companies like dell, hp use OEM products...and usually its quite noisy, but so far no problem, working fine only the noise can be irritatating sometimes..but it cant be called as rejected hardware right?? haha  laugh.gif

anyway, dell uses philips dvd-rw, another oem product which cant be bought in the market...  whistling.gif
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philips weird firmware not compatible with benq fw, curious why ler until now.

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