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post Dec 16 2005, 12:40 PM

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You may want to check out Warranty Week on the Top 25 Warranty Providers, and you'll notice that Maxtor is in the list. As for Seagate, they are in the Top 50 Warranty Providers instead because of lower warranty claims. It should be noted Seagate ships more drive than Maxtor, however on warranty claims its the other way around though. These figures are mostly for the US/Canada region though.. Sorry, no figures on Western Digital this year YET, but you can checkout the older Warranty Headlines Archive and see.. wink.gif

The figures there are subjective of course. There could be many factors that affect them (such as older warranties due to 3-5 year warranty claims, etc). Just some points to ponder.. sweat.gif

On the subject on reliability.. I would say 80% on how you manage and "treat" them (ie. PSU, cooling, mounting, etc) and 20% luck! Nobody's perfect. tongue.gif

Always monitor the S.M.A.R.T status from time to time to avoid data loss.. Do periodic backups as well.. rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 21 2005, 06:22 PM

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Hear ye! Hear ye! This just in (though I'm not surprised at all considering Maxtor current financial situation) ohmy.gif Once upon a time, Maxtor gobbled up Quantum, and now Seagate takes over Maxtor. I wonder if the SeaCare centers will now cater for Maxtor RMAs as well.. brows.gif
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post Jan 14 2006, 02:17 PM

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That's one of the reasons I have (lots of) external USB drives ready. To BACKUP QUICKLY whenever one of the HDDs having SMART failure, showing weird symptoms or having problems. I can always burn the data to DVDRs and/or CDRs later (for permanent backup). wink.gif

Reason? Burning hundred GBs of data to DVDRs and/or CDRs takes lots of time. Always have a good backup plan handy. thumbup.gif

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post Jan 20 2006, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 20 2006, 12:30 PM)
still backup to media is better. sweat.gif
Backup to media like CDR and/or DVDR takes long time, in particular if having hundreds of GBs would take from hours to days. When the drive is starting to exhibit problems, recommended to copy the data off that drive quickly because it may fail anytime soon. In this case, redundancy is essential to avoid sudden data loss. Once there is redundancy, you can take your own sweet time to completely backup and/or burn to CDR and/or DVDR. wink.gif

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post Feb 21 2006, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(rainmankl @ Feb 16 2006, 05:09 PM)
In case you do not know, Hitachi bought over the IBM HDD busineess
some years ago so basically you are buying IBM HDD.

Years ago, mention IBM and you shake your head because you cannot afford anything that is IBM branded.

But now ,IBM HDD and PC is so affordable and I wonder why no one ask for them anymore.
Hmm.. Do you know WHY IBM sold their HDD business (back) to Hitachi? Have you heard of the DeskStar 75GXP.. AKA the DeathStar? rolleyes.gif

Check out IBM Deskstar 75GXP Class Action Website. And FYI, Fujitsu also had a class action suit resulting in exit from the desktop market. See HDD Class Action Settlement Website. cool.gif

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post Feb 24 2006, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(audigydekwmak @ Feb 24 2006, 01:58 PM)
Anyway.. i donno is it posted already.. i lz to glance through 17 pages.. lolx
Maxtor is sold to Seagate already..
Old news already. In fact a thread on "Seagate To Buy Maxtor" was posted here back in December 26, 2005... on the same day the news was announced. doh.gif

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post May 5 2006, 02:35 PM

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NOTICE

I have noticed quite a number of people bought "Maxtor QuickView" drives for use with their desktop PCs (and/or for external data storage). Please beware that these drives are NOT meant for proper data storage purposes! Please check the following statement in BOLD RED (source: Maxtor QuickView Hard Drives - Built for your DVR, PVR and Consumer Electronics Devices):
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QuickView drives have a few key differences from normal desktop drives that make them far superior to desktop drives for PVR usage:

    * Thermal Control: On board sensors monitor temperature and adjust characteristics as necessary to keep the temperature optimal.
    * Durability: These drives run at 7200 RPM - more than fast enough for every PVR (providing about three times the necessary peak throughput) but not fast enough to wear out sooner.
    * Acoustic Management: Maxtor QuickView drives are specially tuned to run as quietly as possible.
    * A/V Streaming: QuickView drives have been optimized and tuned to provide consistent data to the PVR processor. Standard desktop drives can hang while retrying drive reads - QuickView drives know to move ahead and provide more data to keep video smooth.
    * Error Recovery: Desktop drives retry on errors to make sure that your Excel spreadsheet is exactly right - it's imperative. But when watching video, if one block of data is bad, you may not even notice a dark spot on one frame for 1/30th of a second. So these drives are tuned to move past errors faster, putting the stream of data as top priority. Where desktop drives often cause stutters, these drives run smooth.
FYI: These "QuickView" drives are based on DiamonadMax 10 desktop drives. Regards. wink.gif
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post May 10 2006, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ May 6 2006, 08:43 PM)
can make the explaination more simple, as really dun understand actually. thx notworthy.gif
Means that Maxtor QuickView drive will "skip" or drop data from slow sectors or from sectors that contains errors (will NOT retry re-reading the sector). Thus, there may be "gaps" in the data read back.. wink.gif

FYI: Normal desktop HDDs wil retry reading slow sectors and/or sectors with errors to ensure the data is available. If the sector could not be read (or found), then it will report an error (such as "cyclic redundancy error" or "bad block") instead of skipping it.. cool.gif

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post May 24 2006, 05:29 PM

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Just a bit of news. Seagate has fully taken over Maxtor.

Official: Seagate Technology - SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY COMPLETES ACQUISITION OF MAXTOR CORPORATION

Other news sites:

- The Register - Seagate swallows Maxtor
- RealTech News -Seagate Buys Maxtor
- Macworld Daily News - Seagate, Maxtor merge approved
ZDNet - Shareholders clear Seagate's Maxtor takeover
..etc..

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