Dear all

Please share your experiences and comments here.
Thank you

labour with material excluding tiles RM5 per square ft

if hack existing tiles or parquet flooring .. then additional labour cost

I get the quotation that the labour just lay tiles on floor/wall is RM3.20/ft2 excluded hacking and all material like cement, sand and tiles. Is it reasonable price? the quality also good because the contractor bring me to his project show to me. Please advise too. Thanks

rm 3.2 ok la...

the tiler charge rm 2.8 and he make 0.4 hehe

the price will be ok if the range between RM2 to RM3 per Ft excluding materials. it should be cheaper if more work to be done.

a good quality tiles like white horse should cost around 5.50 to 6 for the 1 x 2 tiles, and guocera much higher around 7. bear in mind make sure the tiles is fully coated, not half to have a longer life.

which area are you planning to lay tiles? whole house or just the parch?

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Added on February 21, 2011, 2:19 pmone small lorry (maybe 1 ton) of sand should cost around 3 to 400 and each cement should cost around 15 or 16...so, dont let the contractor cheat u...

This post has been edited by tyhuang: Feb 21 2011, 02:19 PM

beside tiles, cement, labour to lay, another major cost is tile adhesive cement & latex admixture (SUSU)..

some contractors ... those with better workmanship .. might charge for "Plastering" labour cost for wall tiles

Wow that alot of info I learnt today!
Plan to hack 1st and then not sure
use parquet floor or tiles or don't
know what they called if using small
stone(tiny until look like sand) to lay
on top of the floor.
have to check all sifu's comment first
lo..

Any recommendations on assorted tiles to find in Klang Valley, planning to buy on my own and leverage the contractors to lay the tiles.

labour + material (excluding tiles) cost RM3.5 per square feet.

oh..the tiny stones are called pebbles-wash. normally you see this in resorts...very balinese..
I like that also...and I will do some in my garden corridor. They have different sizes one..I am also doing research on it at the moment.

If done well, they are as good to maintain as cement floor but looks much nicer. And if some part crack or pecah...it can be easily mix apply with cement again..

small stone/ pebble stone actually more expensive

Yup I guess it is
Maybe search for DIY steps to lay also. hehe

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Added on February 22, 2011, 8:39 pm

This post has been edited by damario1928: Feb 22 2011, 08:39 PM

I want my car porch to be like this.. how much the the tiler will quote me?


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After reading this thread I felt the quotation I got is so expensive!

I have bathroom totalling 350sf floor+walls and the contractor wants to charge me RM2800 for labour + hacking.

That works out to be RM8 psf : (

Although he mentioned that water proofing will be done, still ...

Do you guys have any contractors contact that can do a more reasonable price??

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: Feb 28 2011, 06:53 AM

not necessarily the contractor overcharge ... 'koz if they're contractor of good workmanship, they would use enough material to make sure the job is done properly and the outcome meet or above client's expectation ..

I've been looking for a contractor for changing my kitchen wall tiles as well, but only a small portion. Anyone has any good contractor can recommend to me? My area is at seri kembangan.
Thanks!

0126636962, he's from SK area, did my house few days ago

cool thanks man! I'll give him a call

This post has been edited by 1ullaby: Feb 28 2011, 08:19 PM

BUT i believe it depend on tiles size as well.

Let say, if the floor area = 1000sqf.

A. If use 1'x1' tiles then 1000tiles x RM3.50 = RM3500
In this case price is 3.5/sqf

B. If use 2'x2' tiles then 250tiles x RM7.00 = RM1750
In this case price is 1.75/sqf. means less tiles less work????

yeah..sifus so how?..

wrong, to lay 2'x2' shall be rm14/ pcs if the price to lay is rm 3.5

but the cost of one piece of 2x2 tile could be xxx% (>12 ringgit at least for those cheapo?) more than one piece of 1x1 tile(could be just 2-3 ringgit each)... so we have to calculate the total cost if cost is a concerned and not just looking at labour+material cost to lay...

The person quote me if 1'x1' tiles = rm3.50pcs
if 2'x2' tiles = rm7.00pcs not 3.5x4=14/pcs

tat why i ask maybe 2'x2' tiles less work than 1'x1'...1000pcs compare to 250pcs?

7pc for 2x2 includes labour too i suppose? Labour to lay a 2x2 may require 2 person at each time..that's why it is higher.. Have u tried to lift up a 2x2 tile..is quite heavy..heh.

yeap..in term of cost sure 2'x2' is much more higher.
example, 250pcs x RM20 = 5K compare to 1000pcs x RM3 = 3K.

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Added on March 1, 2011, 3:43 pmBut the contractor quote much more cheaper to lay the 2'x2' tiles...labour included all meterial is RM7/pcs...in this case is RM7/4sqf = RM1.75

This is his quotation : labour include material.

A. 1'x1' tiles = RM3.50 = 3.50/psf
B. 1'x2' tiles = RM6.00 = 3.00/psf
C. 2'x2' tiles = RM7.00 = 1.75/psf





This post has been edited by wrb7878: Mar 1 2011, 03:43 PM

i dun think the contractor u're negotiating with right now is professional enough ..
usually contractors would calculate the labour cost by sqft .. not by the size of tiles..

and if u wanna save some cost, sometimes when there're tile promotion, large size tiles, for example 16' x 16' might be cheaper in total tile cost, compared with if u buy smaller sqft size of tiles.

**EDITED, WRONGLY POST**

pls check properly with ur contractor...usually labour cost for laying tiles goes by psf...not by per tiles..



This post has been edited by numbertwo: Mar 1 2011, 04:10 PM

I found this contractor from MUDAH : Website :http://zekpainter.blogspot.com

He quotation for tiling charges also based on sqft.....
1) RM 3.50 psf for labour + cement + sand
2) RM 1.00 psf for hacking
3) RM 4.00 psf for wall tiling
4) RM 250 for water proofing per bathroom
5) RM 3.50 pf run for skirting

Then this is he quote me for 600sqf excluded tiles:

Hacking floor tiles 600 x 1.00 = 600
Install tiling(2x2) 150 x 7.00 = 1050
Disposing rubbish 600x 2.00 = 1200 (condo price)
Install skirting 100 feet x 3.50 = 350

Total RM 600+1050+1200+350 = RM 3200 (to install tiles with material, skriting and disposing rubbish)

Install tiling(2x2) 150 x 7.00 = 1050
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OK, reasonable to me comparing with my quote...

This post has been edited by numbertwo: Mar 1 2011, 04:19 PM

have u tried getting a few more contractors' quotations ?

I got another 2 quotation from CARI and LOWYAT...chinese contractor.
They charge RM6/psf.

Here is another from MUDAH:

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Added on March 1, 2011, 4:44 pmso this PUNCAK MEGA is more cheaper, let put it back as 600sqft

1. hacking is 0.80 compare to 1.00
2. Install is 1.80 compare to 1.75sqft
(but not included material cost......which is LS RM400)..around 0.50/psf cost for material...
so total is 2.30psf...sound OK?
3. Skirting is 3.00 compare to 3.50

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Added on March 1, 2011, 4:48 pmI have compare few malay contractor ..price is almost same.
In term of contractor not professional enough...cant comment ....

i think they are more on renovation company....

PUNCAK MEGA GROUP of COMPANIES
-Puncak Mega Entity (M) Sdn Bhd
-Puncak Mega Trading & Services
-Puncak Mega Aircond & Electrical Appliance
-Puncak Mega ICT & Web Solution
-Puncak Mega Furniture & Interior Design

Headquarter:
138 Jln tenaga 21
Taman Tenaga
43000 Kajang
Selangor Darul Ehsan

Central Office:
282, Jalan Nusari 1/4
Nusari Bayu
71900 Bdr Seri Sendayan
N.S.D.K

Southern Office:
No 39 Jln Biru Satu
Tmn Laksamana
81900 Kota Tinggi
Johor Darul Takzim.

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Mar 1 2011, 04:51 PM


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have u tried getting quotation from chinese contractors ?

Yes..as i mention just now. I got 2 from CARI and LOWYAT.....price around RM6/psf.

the material ( cement, adhesive & latex ) may not enough and the proportion does not correct, normally tiler recommend 1bag cement(50kg) : 1 bag adhesive (20kg)

my recent renovation consume 45bag cement + 45 bag adhesive + 2x 20L latex, for total area of wall & floor about 1800 sq ft

I got quoted RM400 for cement & sand and RM600 for labour to tile my backyard which is 150sqft. My backyard currently is earth + grass. This is not including tiles. Total cost RM1000 =RM6.70 per sqft. Contractor told me that he would need to remove some of the earth as well to make it back to the current level. Is this reasonable?

Dear All,

Is the Ground floor Toilet no need water proofing? As my house toilet change tiles in progress, contractor just water proof upper floor toilet. Ground floor he say no need. Is that true?

that's true, at least in my house renovation. No waterproofing too in ground floor t.

Alright, thanks numbertwo

hmmm....no water proofing at gf toilet sounds logic because water leak also into the ground.....

but then....will it cause area surrounding the toilet swampy and later on cause some other problem??? like the floor sink a little or what....hmmm...just my thought.

Where do u guys buy your tiles??

I went to STADEC and saw 600mm x 600mm tiles are being sold at RM30-RM60 per piece and thought this is a standard price until my friend told me that standard price should be around RM12-RM15/piece.

Please share! Thanks!

Get my Tiles from ST Tile at USJ 19, one of the shop next to USJ 19 Digital Mall
600mmx600mm white horse Malaysia made RM11.5.
300mmx600mm car porch tiles also White Horse Malaysia RM6.5

Who did you ask to do the tiling job of your house eventually? I need someone to do mine too. The price quoted by Puncak Mega seems cheap. Thanks.

just would like to advice that for the 1 X 2 white horse first grade, you can get it in klang at 5.70 , if more than 20 boxed, it's delivery FOC. maybe you can survey the price first....

the shop name is call MASTILE KLANG

hi..wonder how much cost for peeble wash?is it in KG? per bag?anyone know....

in klang...normally they have size 5 and 10. in between is hard to find....i bought it at RM16 per packet....it's for floor type..if got wall type, which they mix wif glue, it will cost around RM170 i was told

Sorry to ask a super noob question,


2 x 2 tiles is = to 4 time 1 x 1 tiles or 2 time 1 x 1 tiles ?

if 1 x 1 tiles = 1sf, then 2 x 2 tiles is how many ? hhahaha sorry nooby who need to renovated his house

2'x2'= 2x(1'x2') = 4x(1'x1') =4 sqft

lol hahaha sorry was confuse le so now which 1 is correct ?

is there any ready made peeble wash tile?how cost is it?any place recommended??

Hi tiles-sifu,

May I know where I can get Guocera tiles 200*330 (Code-H249A) at Puchong or anywhere near to KV?

Please PM me if u can get above tiles at cheaper price?

Thank you.

Not a good idea as water will find its way to side wall. Your color of the wall will tell eventually. And also, if you install laminated flooring or parquet, they will come loose.

Haven get my key yet. Yea....puncak mega seems cheap...and Plaster ceiling also quote me rm1.80/sqft flat board.

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Added on April 3, 2011, 5:56 pmAny 1 have comment on Feruni tiles?
Went to Perfect Living....
2x2 tiles....at RM11.99 only....look not bad.

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Apr 3 2011, 05:56 PM

went to Niro this afternoon and quite impress with its tile!!!! nice....but price also nice....wonder if any1 here used NIRO tile? How much discount they can give from the quoted price?

In terms of quality, is NIRO the best out of guocera/mml?

Such a good quality tile, sure need a good sifu to do tiling, am i right? else rugi....the alignment all will determine the final look of the tile also. Can any1 here share whether any typical tiling person also can produce nice results if quality of tile is good?

anyone used Puncak Mega - please comment on quality..tks

i asked those ppl selling tiles, they said in fact Niro, Guocera, MML are about the same quality ..

And u're right. It takes good sifu to do these kind of tiling. u need to find those really experienced in laying porcelain tiles, 'koz those are large-size tiles and need more laying material and work. Not all contractors know how to lay porcelain tiles *properly*.

A good contractor, b4 laying these kind of tiles, they would lay a relatively think layer of cement on the hacked floor (if hacking jobs needed), wait for this base layer to fully dry in a few days, then only proceed to lay ur Niro/Guocera/MML tiles on the base layer.

On the other hand, a contractor who doesn't really have much experience in doing procelain tile laying jobs, chances are they would put a few big dots of cement in the 5 corners under the tiles and then lay on the floor... So in the years to come, the tiles, after going thru differences of high and low temperatures along with the weather, would start cracking ... Mayb in any day out of the blue u would suddenly heard a strong "pop" sound when it cracks.. This is some of the things i heard from a procelain tiles seller and also saw from some online video clips.

Thus finding a realiable contractor thru word-of-mouth is critical.

i got 25% off from niro under contractor's category. for large size porcelain tiles, DO NOT save on latex/ adhesive cement as IT wont COST much.......

I dont think so la. Niro tiles are much better made. I just did my house renovation, and the quality is definately better than Guocera and MML. My contractor also thinks so and I got 25-30% discount from their showroom at PJ.

Hi im doing selection for my tiles soon, can recommend any reliable and price considerably cheap?

wat is the range like? issit RM 2-5 is cheap ones? RM-6-10 is moderate? RM11-15 is premium?

And where is the best/cheap place to look for? in KV area.

Thanks

jln Ipoh.. a couple of tile shops . i think there're another round of sales on now.

I have to agree. Niro tiles are higher grade than Guocera for sure. MML had some high quality tiles like Niro as well and of course the price is also very nice. So far I found the cheapest Niro tiles in Puchong. Even cheaper than the showroom at PJ. You can check out 4 best tiles in Puchong. They carry full range of Niro tiles.

where in puchong?

Is located opposite of batu 14

Guys, based on my survey Super Ceramic outlet sells cheaper tiles compared to other retails.

Real Example:
Retail A - 1 tile at Rm2.30
SuperCeramic - 1 tile can get at RM1.85

For showroom, see here:
http://www.superceramic.com.my/showroom.html

Can anyone share where I can get cheap tiles from "Alpha tiles"?? I need to get those tiles that the developer uses Thanks.

Which part of Batu 14?

I checked the show room location the nearest is at Kinrara but not at Bt 14

SUPER CERAMIC TILES (PUCHONG) SDN. BHD.
No. 6 & 8, Jln TPK ¼,
Tmn Perindustrian Kinrara,
47100 Puchong, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Tel: +603-8076 5888 Fax: +603-8075 9876
(Open on Sunday & Public Holidays)

could it be lower grade tiles?

bteoh,

The tiles are same quality and same color code. My best bet would be they taken it in big amount, so can get cheaper.

Many different brands available there like Guocera, MML, White Horse, Citigres, Murano, Venus, Garuda, Prestige, Alpha, Kimgres, Niro and Johan.

You can pay a visit to believe it, SuperCeramic still give good price based on my survey. If you got other selling cheaper, mind to share because I haven't get the required number of tiles from my contractor yet.

Thanks.

+1
super ceramic's price are pretty competitive

i'm thinking of tiling part of my kitchen myself..the area is not that large...
hurm...do anyone here have done DIY Tling at thier house??what do i need to do first?as i know..if the cement is shiny..then need to make some grooves..for the tiles to stick...or use tile glue to make it stick..

I guess better ask other to do instead of DIY...Not everything could DIY lol


zie86,
I make a visit to SUPER CERAMIC TILES at Tmn Perindustrian Kinrara.

It not all tiles are cheap, this is base on the tiles that I try to get. Example: 2x2 Table top Black colour with Gold dot, they salling around 28 but I could get 24 from another shop (make in china)...


New finding for me...I didn't noticed we have India tiles till I visited this place

for a small porch..they want RM 2,800???
that's why i opted to do DIY as an option

anyone care to help..

spare the headache, get a contractor to quote the workmanship, for my case usually rm2-3/sq foot.

measure the kitchen area, buy the tiles yourself seller might ask if u need skirting, etc, they will add further.
(i bought at jln ipoh, much cheaper from the selayang white horse factory. U can go to selayang factory to get some ideas/design from the display, but take down the tile codes that u r interested, and buy elsewhere cheaper)

u also need to buy the "susu" to soak the tiles first, apart from tiles cement.

for kitchen area choose the less shiny to prevent slippage, shud water/liquid splashes onto tiles.

This post has been edited by nasni: May 6 2011, 04:49 PM

anyone got any experience with feruni ? the showroom is mightily impressive

where's this feruni?

Feruni is in Jalan Tandan area (near topmark)
http://www.feruni.com/

also thinking of buying the tiles myself and pay for workmanship

so have u find the contractor? wat is the price for workmanship?

guys, i would to know about broken marbles.. isit available anywhere at tiles store? how much the usual price? thx..

susu? what susu?

usually i see contractor.. soak the tiles in "Water" only.. what susu ?? curious...

another thing why do they soak it in water ?? to make it adhere to the cement better or what ?

only ceramic tiles need to soak with water before installation, homogeneous/ porcelain tiles no need.

susu = modify polymer admixture to mix with cement/ tile adhesive to gain better bond to tiles

my two earlier tiles contractor just soak the tiles in water. Later on some tiles peel off (came out) from their place.

My latest/recent contractor were better (from class A contrator, experienced, jobs in big buildings etc) they advised me to buy the "susu" milk for the tiles. Their job include in my reno package, was plain lucky that they were in the team.

i bought the "susu" (their term that i used) from tiles shops at jln ipoh.

This post has been edited by nasni: May 9 2011, 01:39 PM

yes, because now the cerement is suck...can hard but can't glue. they need addon "Susu" to do the glue work.

How much a pack of "Susu"? Is that RM100 above?

the susu was not that expensive, can't really recall, but it was way below rm100 for 20L.

1 pallete of broken marble rm330. ok or not? it cover 180psf..

Do people still do broken marble? If yes how much does it cost?

yes, still got.. but not all tiles shop and hardware sell it. they sell either one pallete or half pallete. this is what i've been quoted.. one pallete, rm330 can cover 180sf.

just curious whats the purpose of soaking it in water ??

another thing this "susu" does it have a proper name ??

link to SUSU

normally they only soak homogeneous tile or ceramic tile into water before tiling work. This help to prevent the cement dry instantly (absorb by tile) in order to prevent tile from peeling off.

how much a SUSU cost?

rm 180 for 25L @ old klang road hardware shop, buy at their sungai buloh warehouse will be cheaper but damp far away..