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post Feb 17 2022, 12:11 PM, updated 4y ago

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Hi peeps,

opening this thread for the discussion on Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI) so not to hijack SA (Stashaway) thread

Reminder: peep pls do not share your referral outright in the forum, you will get reported by anonymous (not me), it is unspoken rule in FBI session tongue.gif
I already saw several reports on forumer who asking for referral code or replying to such.


KDI Official Website:
https://digitalinvesting.com.my/
- Login
- Account Opening

KDI Web Account Login:
https://app.digitalinvesting.com.my/user-login

Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI) consists of two investment tools:
1. KDI Invest (Stashaway ETF portfolio alike) - click for more info
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Your withdrawal from KDI Invest will take approximately 5 working days to reflect in your bank account
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According to KDI CS, you can view the portfolio's underlying ETF placement after getting the monthly statement.

2. KDI Save (seems to be akin to Money Market Funds portfolio like Stashaway Simple/Versa) - click for more info
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According to KDI CS, it is a short-term deposit that works similar to FD, they are able to guarantee the return rate but they typically do not reveal further info on the placement itself. It is with Kenanga Treasury.

Your withdrawal from KDI Save will reflect in your bank account:
Latest 1 day after the withdrawal day (T+1), if withdrawal made before cut-off time of 11am; or
Latest 2 days after the withdrawal day (T+2), if withdrawal made after cut-off time of 11am.
T should be working day, If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day



Cut-off / Turn-around
(according to forummer's sharing here)

QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:33 PM)
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed(process by KDI) by 430pm same day
If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Mar 11 2022, 11:48 AM)
I have asked Kenangan this:
Cutoff Deposit
KDI Save - 11am
KDI Invest - 8am

Cutoff withdraw
1-2 working days

Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest
4-5 working days

My experience is
Deposit @21.02.2022, 3:14PM and account update @23.02.2022, 12:47AM.  (2days)
Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest @24.02.2022, 3:57AM, account updated @25.02.2022, 4:42PM (1day)

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FAQ Shortcut
https://digitalinvesting.com.my/faq/


KDI Referral Program
- not sharing my code to abide forum rule, do PM me or other investor smile.gif
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According to KDI CS, after your referee successfully deposited RM250 in their ETF account, KDI will reward RM 10 to both referrer and referee in 30 days.


Experience Sharing:
Pros
1. Quick account opening, got it open in one hour (Though there are forumer reported a day or more than that)
2. Quick investment deposit processing for KDI Save, deposit through FPX in the morning, got the units, and return in the afternoon
3. Promotional rate of KDI save 3%

Cons
1. BY FAR no details of underlying assets for KDI Invest, this info will only be available in your next month's statement
2. Login engine doesn't have 2FA
3. Mobile app doesn't have fingerprint/face ID login

Fee
https://digitalinvesting.com.my/invest/


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post Feb 17 2022, 12:15 PM

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Bravo... Thanks for taking the initiatives to start this new thread. 👏👏👍👍👍
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post Feb 17 2022, 12:16 PM

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Checking in n parking for added investment info
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post Feb 17 2022, 01:19 PM

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Thanks for starting a new thread! This seems like a rushed launched looking at the lack of information on the platform itself hahah
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post Feb 17 2022, 02:03 PM

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After you login, and you click KDI save, under their terms and condition, it's mentioned the 3% is until 30th June 2022. Not sure who's lying. KDI team or all the newspaper.

If is until 30th June 2022 why mentioned until end of the year.
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post Feb 17 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2022, 02:03 PM)
After you login, and you click KDI save, under their terms and condition, it's mentioned the 3% is until 30th June 2022. Not sure who's lying. KDI team or all the newspaper.

If is until 30th June 2022 why mentioned until end of the year.
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from the all the sources i read is until end of this year tho
Official: https://digitalinvesting.com.my/save/

News:
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/kena...esting-platform
https://soyacincau.com/2022/02/16/kenanga-a...tment-products/
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post Feb 17 2022, 02:18 PM

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Money market funds, relatively easier to move your funds around. just move when the promotional rate ends.

by the way, i am still waiting for my account to be approved.

how long does it take for your account to be approved?
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post Feb 17 2022, 02:21 PM

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Got mine approved and transfer the money...

Saw that using MBB can use CC to add cash...

Anyone knows will it be counted as cash advanced and charging additional interest? If no cash advanced, then not too sure will it be earning points or not...
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 17 2022, 02:18 PM)
Money market funds, relatively easier to move your funds around. just move when the promotional rate ends.

by the way, i am still waiting for my account to be approved.

how long does it take for your account to be approved?
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got mine approved in an hour

QUOTE(juudai1990 @ Feb 17 2022, 02:21 PM)
Got mine approved and transfer the money...

Saw that using MBB can use CC to add cash...

Anyone knows will it be counted as cash advanced and charging additional interest? If no cash advanced, then not too sure will it be earning points or not...
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you can try, i tried and the transaction will be failed eventually, was trying to give some trouble to them but no luck tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 17 2022, 02:23 PM)
got mine approved in an hour
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you can try, i tried and the transaction will be failed eventually, was trying to give some trouble to them but no luck tongue.gif
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Haha, thought of trying and but found the answer... that's quick from you
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post Feb 17 2022, 03:03 PM

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Anyone unable to receive OTP during account opening?

I tried on desktop and app also having the same problem.

Notified them and they requested my name, telco network and mobile number then no update from them.
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post Feb 17 2022, 03:37 PM

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Update: Account approved. Should have asked for one of your referral code, this way, both of us got 10 bucks in our etf portfolio later.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Feb 17 2022, 03:03 PM)
Anyone unable to receive OTP during account opening?

I tried on desktop and app also having the same problem.

Notified them and they requested my name, telco network and mobile number then no update from them.
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so far no such issue, they take a while to reach, but also in a matters of seconds. not too long though.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 17 2022, 04:38 PM)
so far no such issue, they take a while to reach, but also in a matters of seconds. not too long though.
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I got their reply but they need to rely on the vendor to solve this issue. sad.gif


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QUOTE(rocketm @ Feb 17 2022, 03:43 PM)
I got their reply but they need to rely on the vendor to solve this issue.  sad.gif
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this issue is with your telco?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 17 2022, 02:18 PM)
Money market funds, relatively easier to move your funds around. just move when the promotional rate ends.

by the way, i am still waiting for my account to be approved.

how long does it take for your account to be approved?
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i still waiting after 24 hours

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:47 PM)
i still waiting after 24 hours
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should be pretty fast already. it's coming!
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Feb 17 2022, 03:03 PM)
Anyone unable to receive OTP during account opening?

I tried on desktop and app also having the same problem.

Notified them and they requested my name, telco network and mobile number then no update from them.
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this OTP yes.. sometimes work sometimes delay so long
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post Feb 17 2022, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:47 PM)
i still waiting after 24 hours
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I registered yesterday and I can login this afternoon... Perhaps you can try to login now..

Just that, I am still waiting for the money to in Kenanga
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post Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM

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The 3% is per year, right? If I put say for 3 months, meaning the interest will be pro rated??
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM)
The 3% is per year, right? If I put say for 3 months, meaning the interest will be pro rated??
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 17 2022, 04:45 PM)
this issue is with your telco?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Feb 17 2022, 04:48 PM)
this OTP yes.. sometimes work sometimes delay so long
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Not sure what is the cause. They still waiting from vendor.

I have this problem during midnight and I tried again on this morning and afterday but not getting even late OTP.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM)
The 3% is per year, right? If I put say for 3 months, meaning the interest will be pro rated??
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just like FD
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6 hrs still not registered, no hurry actually
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the interest paid daily, gain another 1 sen today hahahaha
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QUOTE(hafizredha @ Feb 17 2022, 05:34 PM)
the interest paid daily, gain another 1 sen today hahahaha
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yeah got another 8 sens from my $1k investment
it seems their return is calculated and distributed daily.

btw i just invested min amount RM250 into their KDI invest (risk profile- Balanced) just trying it out biggrin.gif


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post Feb 17 2022, 05:52 PM

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Can someone just double check the mobile number under profile, is it correct? Mine still missing 2 digits even after correcting it.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 17 2022, 02:08 PM)
I emailed them already. Waiting for reply.

This is from deposit page after login.
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This is from https://digitalinvesting.com.my/save/
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 17 2022, 05:50 PM)
yeah got another 8 sens from my $1k investment
it seems their return is calculated and distributed daily.

btw i just invested min amount RM250 into their KDI invest (risk profile- Balanced) just trying it out  biggrin.gif
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please update later the performance, tempted to invest with my next month salary hahaha
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The interface is so problematic for me. Email mentioning I have my account application approved but when login still said pending zzz
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM)
The 3% is per year, right? If I put say for 3 months, meaning the interest will be pro rated??
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It is daily compounded so even Better than pro rated rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 17 2022, 03:51 PM)
The 3% is per year, right? If I put say for 3 months, meaning the interest will be pro rated??
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It is daily compounded so even Better than pro rated rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 17 2022, 04:00 PM)
just like FD
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Not even like FD as it is daily compounded doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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nice, can rotate stingy pbb efd 1.7% to this.
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Wah this is better than Versa, Stashaway and PMMF,
must join. hopefully that till end June meant promotional rate only if registered by then, not 3% rate ending. and the limit 200k is quite something for some meaningful return.

Just hope that it is not some unscrupulous setup after collecting all our money go close shop.....but when Ramjade is in, pretty sure it must have been thoroughly checked. so hantam lah.
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Deposit since yesterday 2pm, and still pending
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 18 2022, 09:18 AM)
Wah this is better than Versa, Stashaway and PMMF,
must join. hopefully that till end June meant promotional rate only if registered by then, not 3% rate ending. and the limit  200k is quite something for some meaningful return.

Just hope  that it is not some unscrupulous setup after collecting  all our money  go close shop.....but when Ramjade is in, pretty sure it must have been thoroughly checked. so hantam lah.
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So Ramjade is your diligence check lah?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 18 2022, 09:23 AM)
So Ramjade is your diligence check lah?
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you can see he is the first to detect why 3% rate tenure end June...and not 31.12.22 thumbsup.gif
i know he is the type will look into details anything he is going to invest unlike me mostly just hantam follow hearsay
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As in post 7801 of sspn thread

QUOTE(... @ Feb 17 2022, 10:48 PM)
FYI, tried online withdrawal on 16 Januaru 2022, received on 17 January 2022 around 10pm.
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What is the KDI Save, withdrawal to actual receiving of money duration?
Wondering should I go for KDI Save or Sspn?
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 18 2022, 09:27 AM)
you can see he is the first to detect why 3% rate tenure end June...and not 31.12.22 thumbsup.gif
i know he is the type will look into details anything he is going to invest unlike me  mostly just hantam follow hearsay
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hahaha i saw that 3% is until the end of this year too.

Meanwhile, i deposited some money into both KDI Save and KDI Invest last night. Let's see when would it be reflected, hopefully today.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 18 2022, 09:18 AM)
Wah this is better than Versa, Stashaway and PMMF,
must join. hopefully that till end June meant promotional rate only if registered by then, not 3% rate ending. and the limit  200k is quite something for some meaningful return.

Just hope  that it is not some unscrupulous setup after collecting  all our money  go close shop.....but when Ramjade is in, pretty sure it must have been thoroughly checked. so hantam lah.
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I hope it's until December 2022. At least more time to enjoy the 3%p.a returns.

It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.
Keep in mind I use it as bank account/parking place/versa replacement cause versa is like giving only 1.8%.

Once I collect rm10k+ I am withdrawing it and transfering to sg to be invested in us stocks.

Once they tell me what is the actual expiry date and by expiry date if something better comes along, I will leave it. If nothing better comes I will just hang with it.

QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 18 2022, 09:23 AM)
So Ramjade is your diligence check lah?
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It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.

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Any idea on the underlying assets? I'm keeping off until they release the full info. hmm.gif
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KDI doing investing forrest gump style ke? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2022, 01:47 PM)
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KDI doing investing forrest gump style ke?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get
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maybe lesson learnt from stashaway, or else people be like critizing ETF selection, transaction made time tongue.gif
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QUOTE(radioxie @ Feb 18 2022, 02:09 PM)
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I already saw several reports on forumer who asking for referral code or replying to such.


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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 18 2022, 01:35 PM)
Any idea on the underlying assets? I'm keeping off until they release the full info. hmm.gif
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Well, this was what they replied upon my e-mail inquiry on the same question today (for KDI Save):

"It is a short term deposit. Similar to fixed deposits, we are able to guarantee the return rate but we typically do not reveal further info on the placement itself. It is with Kenanga Treasury."

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 18 2022, 02:03 PM)
maybe lesson learnt from stashaway, or else people be like critizing ETF selection, transaction made time  tongue.gif
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actually non transparent will cause more problem in the long run. Let ppl then they choose to invest or not. Portfolio and sell-buy execution is clear then only can gain trust for large investment.
edit : what I understand from this thread is based ur risk preference they will generate portfolio for u at least they need to tell u etf the ai bought for u right? How unique the portfolio is if we can gather enough info should be able to figure out how they allocate
So TS got ald ur porfolio with the etf ald.
Edit 2; Ok noted inform from monthly statement aiyoyo

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QUOTE(Yjgpig @ Feb 18 2022, 04:00 PM)
Well, this was what they replied upon my e-mail inquiry on the same question today:

"It is a short term deposit. Similar to fixed deposits, we are able to guarantee the return rate but we typically do not reveal further info on the placement itself. It is with Kenanga Treasury."
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Kenanga Treasury is most likely done a deal with one of the banks as to why they able to offer that rate up to 200k

Still digging which bank as it is seems familiar with 2.25% rate but my guts suspect it is most likely with UOB

QUOTE(akhito @ Feb 18 2022, 04:11 PM)
actually non transparent will cause more problem in the long run. Let ppl then they choose to invest or not. Portfolio and sell-buy execution is clear then only can gain trust for large investment.
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Even MyTheo doesn’t disclose the allocation but they disclose the entire list of ETF under which portfolio

The problem is KDI couldn’t pinpoint and fixed a proper allocation unlike others which have fixed portfolio list to allocate around doh.gif
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QUOTE(akhito @ Feb 18 2022, 04:11 PM)
actually non transparent will cause more problem in the long run. Let ppl then they choose to invest or not. Portfolio and sell-buy execution is clear then only can gain trust for large investment.
edit : what I understand from this thread is based ur risk preference they will generate portfolio for u at least they need to tell u ehat the ai bought for u right? How unique the portfolio is if we can gather enough info should be able to figure out how they allocate
So TS got ald ur porfolio with the etf lit>
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No allocation for ETF unless successful depositbis made then only can tell from monthly statements only
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Alright successful and so fast earned the interest
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put in 1k last night. now reflected in the KDI Save and earned 8 sen already.

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My questions and reply from Kenanga :

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Glad they looking into biometric login enhancement. Don't like to keep enter password over and over again.

Also they can't reveal further as it is in regards to their investments or ETFs. Those who have invested in Kenanga Invest do share your results/holdings after one month via the statement!

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They don't have auto debit/recurring deposit/whatever you call it right? Have to manually put in money?
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They don't have auto debit/recurring deposit/whatever you call it right? Have to manually put in money?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 18 2022, 01:17 PM)
I hope it's until December 2022. At least more time to enjoy the 3%p.a returns.

It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.
Keep in mind I use it as bank account/parking place/versa replacement cause versa is like giving only 1.8%.

Once I collect rm10k+ I am withdrawing it and transfering to sg to be invested in us stocks.

Once they tell me what is the actual expiry date and by expiry date if something better comes along, I will leave it. If nothing better comes I will just hang with it.
It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.
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transfer to sg? IBKR? FSM sg?
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transfer to sg? IBKR? FSM sg?
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MY banks -> fintech -> SGD in sg banks-> local transfer to ibkr -> convert to USD inside ibkr -> US stocks

KDI is just temporary parking place.

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QUOTE(poooky @ Feb 18 2022, 08:11 PM)
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He is Malaysian as well. No other youtuber come close to him on this.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 18 2022, 11:45 PM)
Check Ziet Invest youtube videos for detailed guides. So far IBKR the best for US stocks and for irish domiciled ETFs
He is Malaysian as well. No other youtuber come close to him on this.
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I wonder is there any good alternatives to IBKR that is licensed locally? I don't mind taking some compromises. Rakuten's fee are not that expensive but the stocks and ETFs are currently limited.. MIDF the fee is expensive at 8USD for <1K USD. However, I am looking to hold for a very long time.. Looking for solutions with simple deposit and withdrawal cry.gif
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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 19 2022, 12:31 PM)
I wonder is there any good alternatives to IBKR that is licensed locally? I don't mind taking some compromises. Rakuten's fee are not that expensive but the stocks and ETFs are currently limited.. MIDF the fee is expensive at 8USD for <1K USD. However, I am looking to hold for a very long time.. Looking for solutions with simple deposit and withdrawal  cry.gif
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That's none in Malaysia. If you don't want to use ibkr, use moomoo.

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Does KDI processes deposit on weekend? If not I'll just wait for Monday
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cklimm deposit via jompay or something? if deposit now/sunday, at least processing will be prioritized on monday morning
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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 19 2022, 12:31 PM)
I wonder is there any good alternatives to IBKR that is licensed locally? I don't mind taking some compromises. Rakuten's fee are not that expensive but the stocks and ETFs are currently limited.. MIDF the fee is expensive at 8USD for <1K USD. However, I am looking to hold for a very long time.. Looking for solutions with simple deposit and withdrawal  cry.gif
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just learn to use IBKR.. Ziet Invest youtube already very detailed. Got issues can ask us also.

What is your concern? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 19 2022, 02:45 PM)
just learn to use IBKR.. Ziet Invest youtube already very detailed. Got issues can ask us also.

What is your concern?  smile.gif
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I am abit concerned on using fintech such as TransferWise to bridge towards the platform... From what I have calculated, the forex rate is roughly equal on MIDF/FSMOne/Rakuten when you do it both ways (RM > USD > RM), as there is fee incurred when using TransferWise. The brokerage fees on our SC regulated services are quite high and the execution is perhaps not good when compared to IBKR. Really hope someday we would see platform with low fees, easy cash deposit/withdrawal. Seems like there is always a drawback and not all is perfect sad.gif
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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 19 2022, 03:34 PM)
I am abit concerned on using fintech such as TransferWise to bridge towards the platform... From what I have calculated, the forex rate is roughly equal on MIDF/FSMOne/Rakuten when you do it both ways (RM > USD > RM), as there is fee incurred when using TransferWise. The brokerage fees on our SC regulated services are quite high and the execution is perhaps not good when compared to IBKR. Really hope someday we would see platform with low fees, easy cash deposit/withdrawal. Seems like there is always a drawback and not all is perfect sad.gif
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I am sure MIDF/FSMOne/Rakuten charge you a way, WAY higher forex fee/terrible spread than transferwise...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 18 2022, 01:17 PM)
I hope it's until December 2022. At least more time to enjoy the 3%p.a returns.

It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.
Keep in mind I use it as bank account/parking place/versa replacement cause versa is like giving only 1.8%.

Once I collect rm10k+ I am withdrawing it and transfering to sg to be invested in us stocks.

Once they tell me what is the actual expiry date and by expiry date if something better comes along, I will leave it. If nothing better comes I will just hang with it.
It got SC licence. Published in edge newspaper and run by Kenanga, no issue for me.
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thumbsup.gif but when i made deposit just now T&C there said 3% end June 2022 ........

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Alright successful and so fast earned the interest
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 18 2022, 05:11 PM)
put in 1k last night. now reflected in the KDI Save and earned 8 sen already.
really notbad.jpg!
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yeah much more efficient than Versa and Stashaway.

signed up Friday 1.30pm, acc approved Sat 5pm.

just opened another acc see how fast they can approve this

QUOTE(cklimm @ Feb 19 2022, 01:51 PM)
Does KDI processes deposit on weekend? If not I'll just wait for Monday
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deposited 5.30pm just now,see how fast this can be in to earn interest.

now can see only 1 bank account allowed, should follow Versa/SA allow more for convenience
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Here's the asset allocation for Aggressive Growth profile/risk. High allocations to real estate

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Seems like the highlighted region in the map and the geography invested doesn't tally. Could be a bug.

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Need to wait for next statement to see the actual ETF purchased
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 19 2022, 09:45 PM)
Here's the asset allocation for Aggressive Growth profile/risk. High allocations to real estate

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Seems like the highlighted region in the map and the geography invested doesn't tally. Could be a bug.

user posted image

Need to wait for next statement to see the actual ETF purchased
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i found their map display and highlight are so messed up hahaha tongue.gif
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Not forgetting the decimal point for geographical allocations... My god, how accurate KDI tries to be or no QC in their apps?

QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 19 2022, 09:58 PM)
i found their map display and highlight are so messed up hahaha  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 19 2022, 08:08 PM)
:thumbsup: but when i made deposit just now T&C there said 3% end June 2022 ........
yeah much more efficient than Versa and Stashaway.

signed up Friday 1.30pm, acc approved Sat 5pm.

just opened another acc see  how fast they can approve this
deposited 5.30pm just now,see how fast this can be in to earn interest.

now can see only 1 bank account allowed, should follow Versa/SA allow more for convenience
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They told me error on their part. It's supposed to by until Dec 2022. Said they updated the interface yesterday to reflect Dec 2022 but when I check, never change.
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I cant find the app in Apple App Store. And when I click the link from their official website, it says not available in this country.
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QUOTE(bernard90 @ Feb 19 2022, 02:59 PM)
hi all, why i Can't find the KDI app in app store?
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Feb 20 2022, 01:32 AM)
I cant find the app in Apple App Store. And when I click the link from their official website, it says not available in this country.
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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 19 2022, 12:31 PM)
I wonder is there any good alternatives to IBKR that is licensed locally? I don't mind taking some compromises. Rakuten's fee are not that expensive but the stocks and ETFs are currently limited.. MIDF the fee is expensive at 8USD for <1K USD. However, I am looking to hold for a very long time.. Looking for solutions with simple deposit and withdrawal  cry.gif
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You can try FSMone but beware of the charges

So far so good on them especially withdrawal

QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 19 2022, 09:45 PM)
Here's the asset allocation for Aggressive Growth profile/risk. High allocations to real estate

user posted image

Seems like the highlighted region in the map and the geography invested doesn't tally. Could be a bug.

user posted image

Need to wait for next statement to see the actual ETF purchased
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Most likely skewed towards IYR or VNQ or VNQI while commodities should have GLD as well
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 19 2022, 09:58 PM)
i found their map display and highlight are so messed up hahaha  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 19 2022, 10:00 PM)
Not forgetting the decimal point for geographical allocations... My god, how accurate KDI tries to be or no QC in their apps?
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actually computers calculate until that many decimals one. just that if UI is polished, will round up to 2 or 3 decimals. this looks like an app created in a 3 hour hackathon
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bagus, i want to live in north america one. today i know i'm actually here 🤣🤣
actually computers calculate until that many decimals one. just that if UI is polished, will round up to 2 or 3 decimals. this looks like an app created in a 3 hour hackathon
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For fractional it will be rounded up to the nearest 4 decimals

The UI design is fine it is just the data Fromm their database is not matching the site hence got to do with the linkage instead doh.gif
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QUOTE(melondance @ Feb 19 2022, 03:34 PM)
I am abit concerned on using fintech such as TransferWise to bridge towards the platform... From what I have calculated, the forex rate is roughly equal on MIDF/FSMOne/Rakuten when you do it both ways (RM > USD > RM), as there is fee incurred when using TransferWise. The brokerage fees on our SC regulated services are quite high and the execution is perhaps not good when compared to IBKR. Really hope someday we would see platform with low fees, easy cash deposit/withdrawal. Seems like there is always a drawback and not all is perfect sad.gif
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If gov become like Singapore then that could happen. Else slowly dream. Malaysia gov very conservative about their currency and what also wanna tax when come to foreign investments. Local bursa also a bad place to invest unless experienced and pour in a lot of time to monitor.

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Seems like the highlighted region in the map and the geography invested doesn't tally. Could be a bug.

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Need to wait for next statement to see the actual ETF purchased
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Map and description upside down 🤣
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2022, 02:03 PM)
After you login, and you click KDI save, under their terms and condition, it's mentioned the 3% is until 30th June 2022. Not sure who's lying. KDI team or all the newspaper.

If is until 30th June 2022 why mentioned until end of the year.
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Same thing they told me via email but no correction in the KDI account T&C despite them telling me they are correcting it.

Need to see if they will really change the date inside KDI T&C
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If gov become like Singapore then that could happen. Else slowly dream. Malaysia gov very conservative  about their currency and what also wanna tax when come to foreign investments. Local bursa also a bad place to invest unless experienced and pour in a lot of time to monitor.
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Which is why FSMone or Rakuten still have stamp duty being charged on US shares or ETFs as they see it as new source of revenue for them doh.gif
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Anybody have trouble login in KDI app today? It keep saying my login password / details is wrong. But using same details I can login the website.
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I noticed that the day you placed your deposits will also earn you interest in this KDI Save.

For others, typically then the money is in the account/on the platform, then only it will start accruing from there.

Kudos to KDI Save.

Wish they could also enable bio-metric login on the app for convenience as well.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 21 2022, 11:42 AM)
I noticed that the day you placed your deposits will also earn you interest in this KDI Save.

For others, typically then the money is in the account/on the platform, then only it will start accruing from there.

Kudos to KDI Save.

Wish they could also enable bio-metric login on the app for convenience as well.
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really dunno how is the cut off time works
or it works akin to saving account as long the money is in before 12:00 midnight, u entitle for return tongue.gif
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feels kind of insecure because app never disclose the detail of asset they invested
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 21 2022, 12:07 PM)
really dunno how is the cut off time works
or it works akin to saving account as long the money is in before 12:00 midnight, u entitle for return  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bcombat @ Feb 21 2022, 12:08 PM)
feels kind of insecure because app never disclose the detail of asset they invested
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We won't know until they share or someone gotten their statement and share.

Meanwhile, I have more confidence in them because they are a listed company, not some small start ups, they are regulated by the SC, your money goes to the trustee and not them directly.

However, do exercise your own diligence whether you would want to invest with them.

P/S: and my ex-com as well tongue.gif
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do you even have the same confidence with Public Mutual? associated with Public Bank kan 😂😂
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do you even have the same confidence with Public Mutual? associated with Public Bank kan 😂😂
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cannot comment though, no experience with them....
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 20 2022, 03:24 PM)
If gov become like Singapore then that could happen. Else slowly dream. Malaysia gov very conservative  about their currency and what also wanna tax when come to foreign investments. Local bursa also a bad place to invest unless experienced and pour in a lot of time to monitor.
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Its seriously very annoying. Apps like MIDF under PNB can charge lower trading fees like RM8 instead of USD8. They have an MYR + USD Cash Account and the withdrawal is pretty quick (getting the next day). Their SaxoBank trading platform is quite nice aswell... Lower the fees and people would literally flock to them... Not so hard right...
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 21 2022, 11:42 AM)
I noticed that the day you placed your deposits will also earn you interest in this KDI Save.

For others, typically then the money is in the account/on the platform, then only it will start accruing from there.

Kudos to KDI Save.

Wish they could also enable bio-metric login on the app for convenience as well.
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Deposited 18-02-2022, 08:25 PM, processed 21st 4:20pm, credited with 1 day worth of interest. So probably just 1 day at best (the day it's processed)?

Inb4 some dumbass shows up and talk about how he's been milking this doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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Deposited 18-02-2022, 08:25 PM, processed 21st 4:20pm, credited with 1 day worth of interest. So probably just 1 day at best (the day it's processed)?

Inb4 some dumbass shows up and talk about how he's been milking this  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Deposits
I deposited some on Friday evening. (batch a)

I also deposited some this morning. (batch b)

Both batches processed and are now in the account.


Interests
Batch a - interest accrued from last Friday and is shown in the account already. (3-day worth of interest)

Batch b - no interest, as it was only deposited today, tomorrow should see the interest earned being reflected.


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 19 2022, 11:35 PM)
They told me error on their part. It's supposed to by until Dec 2022. Said they updated the interface yesterday to reflect Dec 2022 but when I check, never change.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 20 2022, 06:28 PM)
Same thing they told me via email but no correction in the KDI account T&C despite them telling me they are correcting it.
Need to see if they will really change the date inside KDI T&C
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thumbsup.gif more time to get some pocket money

QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 21 2022, 11:42 AM)
I noticed that the day you placed your deposits will also earn you interest in this KDI Save.

For others, typically then the money is in the account/on the platform, then only it will start accruing from there.

Kudos to KDI Save.

Wish they could also enable bio-metric login on the app for convenience as well.
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I deposited on Sat and Sun, today can see 1 day interest paid .

My 2nd acc opened Saturday 5.30pm, only approved 12.30pm Mon
Deposited money straight away, still pending, if this also earn 1 day interest later on tonight,
that means no point deposit on Sat or Sun,
might as well wait till Monday only deposit.





QUOTE(bcombat @ Feb 21 2022, 12:08 PM)
feels kind of insecure because app never disclose the detail of asset they invested
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thumbsup.gif more time to get some pocket money
I deposited on Sat and Sun, today  can see 1 day interest paid .

My 2nd acc opened Saturday 5.30pm, only approved 12.30pm Mon
Deposited money straight away, still pending, if this also earn 1 day interest later on tonight,
that means  no point deposit on Sat or Sun,
might as well wait till Monday only deposit.
apa mahu takut masuk saja. any bad news WD la.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 21 2022, 12:28 PM)
no idea, hopefully they can clarify it through their updated FAQ next time.
We won't know until they share or someone gotten their statement and share.

Meanwhile, I have more confidence in them because they are a listed company, not some small start ups, they are regulated by the SC, your money goes to the trustee and not them directly.

However, do exercise your own diligence whether you would want to invest with them.

P/S: and my ex-com as well  tongue.gif
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transparency is needed regardless of the company background and past achievements. For example, StashAway invested significant amount in Kweb but price kept dropping, if investors disagree with it then they can pull their money out ASAP.

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Deposits
I deposited some on Friday evening. (batch a)

I also deposited some this morning. (batch b)

Both batches processed and are now in the account.
Interests
Batch a - interest accrued from last Friday and is shown in the account already. (3-day worth of interest)

Batch b - no interest, as it was only deposited today, tomorrow should see the interest earned being reflected.
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Can I know how you calculated Batch A interest? Because I deposited Friday evening I for sure only received one day's worth of interest (~2.9X% p.a.)
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2022, 06:07 PM)
thumbsup.gif more time to get some pocket money
I deposited on Sat and Sun, today  can see 1 day interest paid .

My 2nd acc opened Saturday 5.30pm, only approved 12.30pm Mon
Deposited money straight away, still pending, if this also earn 1 day interest later on tonight,
that means  no point deposit on Sat or Sun,
might as well wait till Monday only deposit.
apa mahu takut masuk saja. any bad news WD la.
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~2.957% p.a. , that's about the same as mine which was 1 day worth of interest (on Monday), weekend isn't counted or processed at all.
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QUOTE(bcombat @ Feb 21 2022, 06:14 PM)
transparency is needed regardless of the company background and past achievements. For example, StashAway invested significant amount in Kweb but price kept dropping, if investors disagree with it then they can pull their money out ASAP.
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you got a point there. thumbsup.gif

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Can I know how you calculated Batch A interest? Because I deposited Friday evening I for sure only received one day's worth of interest (~2.9X% p.a.)
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I basically just take that [n] amount multiply 3% / 365 x 3 days.

n x 3% / 365 x 3 days = very very close to the returns reflected in my account.
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KDSave guarantees the principal sum right?
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 21 2022, 06:26 PM)
~2.957% p.a. , that's about the same as mine which was 1 day worth of interest (on Monday), weekend isn't counted or processed at all.
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I am in the same predicament, only 1 day interest based on last Friday deposit. What a joke with the self proclaimed digital investing...fpx deposit should be automated, not validated by staff during office hours
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QUOTE(bm_kia @ Feb 21 2022, 11:25 PM)
I am in the same predicament, only 1 day interest based on last Friday deposit. What a joke with the self proclaimed digital investing...fpx deposit should be automated, not validated by staff during office hours
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[citation needed] The deposit itself is automated, but the consolidated MMF/underlying asset purchase order isn't - and since that isn't traded on weekends, it does kinda make sense. ah well.

Happy to have confirmation that you too only received 1 day of interest.

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risk similar to MMF
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Thanks. Principal not guaranteed then.
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you can say it is not guaranteed since it is not FD or saving account protected by PIDM.
all investment tools are not guaranteed by PIDM AFAIK, but it is very low risk.
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 22 2022, 01:07 AM)
Thanks. Principal not guaranteed then.
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if we start losing our principal.. nobody will dare invest in MMF funds already.
Interest rate not guaranteed then more likely.. could fluctuate between 1-3%.

PIDM protected means if the company go bust, you get to claim some amount based on their limit.
For these online MMF funds don't have such protection so there's a risk on that.
Most of them are tied to big banks anyway.. so easy to go bust? laugh.gif

still best to diversify your investments, don't put all in one basket.
anything happen to 1, you still have others that are ok.

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Feb 21 2022, 08:24 PM)
Opened account at about 10:40am today and received approval email at 6:09pm.

Considered fast. Don't you think so?
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Yes indeed they are quite fast. but i think it is also because they are only slowly starting out, so they have "less" to handle in the beginning.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 22 2022, 10:02 AM)
if we start losing our principal.. nobody will dare invest in MMF funds already.
Interest rate not guaranteed then more likely.. could fluctuate between 1-3%.

PIDM protected means if the company go bust, you get to claim some amount based on their limit.
For these online MMF funds don't have such protection so there's a risk on that.
Most of them are tied to big banks anyway.. so easy to go bust?  laugh.gif

still best to diversify your investments, don't put all in one basket.
anything happen to 1, you still have others that are ok.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 22 2022, 10:06 AM)
if it busts, then we are probably in one of the recessions already.
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yeah.. whole Malaysia affected that time.

as long they well managed then no issues.. so far I see local banks all doing ok.
if still concern then read through a bank's financial report. Any public listed company will have that at their website.

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 22 2022, 01:07 AM)
Thanks. Principal not guaranteed then.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 22 2022, 10:02 AM)
if we start losing our principal.. nobody will dare invest in MMF funds already.
Interest rate not guaranteed then more likely.. could fluctuate between 1-3%.

PIDM protected means if the company go bust, you get to claim some amount based on their limit.
For these online MMF funds don't have such protection so there's a risk on that.
Most of them are tied to big banks anyway.. so easy to go bust?  laugh.gif

still best to diversify your investments, don't put all in one basket.
anything happen to 1, you still have others that are ok.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 22 2022, 10:06 AM)
if it busts, then we are probably in one of the recessions already.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 22 2022, 10:35 AM)
yeah.. whole Malaysia affected that time.

as long they well managed then no issues.. so far I see local banks all doing ok.
if still concern then read through a bank's financial report. Any public listed company will have that at their website.
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Apparently so, as stated on their site. Somehow, I deposited RM 250 on the 18th Feb into Invest, but still "Pending".

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If use Maybank credit card to deposit can or will be rejected?
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Why doesn't KDI give info where funds are deposited before putting amount? I would like to see the performance of the funds mentined. Or I do not know where it is?

So far, the only thing I see is that, the rate is slightly lower at 0.70% and 0.30% compared to wahed 0.79% and 0.39% account maintainance. Aside from that, the diversity is not as big as Wahed.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 17 2022, 12:11 PM)
Hi peeps,

opening this thread for the discussion on Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI) so not to hijack SA (Stashaway) thread

Reminder: peep pls do not share your referral outright in the forum, you will get reported by anonymous (not me), it is unspoken rule in FBI session tongue.gif
I already saw several reports on forumer who asking for referral code or replying to such.


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Latest 1 day after the withdrawal day (T+1), if withdrawal made before cut-off time of 11am; or
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KDI Referral Program
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2. Login engine doesn't have 2FA
3. Mobile app doesn't have fingerprint/face ID login
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Just wondering, there's no info on KDI in Security Commission Malaysia / BNM?
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https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...manager-licence

It is under curren5 IB with digital ib license

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Kenanga Investment Bank has been awarded a digital investment management (DIM) licence from Malaysia’s Securities Commission (SC), according to local media reports.
https://fundselectorasia.com/malaysias-kena...stment-licence/
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:21 AM)
you can say it is not guaranteed since it is not FD or saving account protected by PIDM.
all investment tools are not guaranteed by PIDM AFAIK, but it is very low risk.
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Thanks. Just invested a small amount first to try out

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 22 2022, 10:02 AM)
if we start losing our principal.. nobody will dare invest in MMF funds already.
Interest rate not guaranteed then more likely.. could fluctuate between 1-3%.

PIDM protected means if the company go bust, you get to claim some amount based on their limit.
For these online MMF funds don't have such protection so there's a risk on that.
Most of them are tied to big banks anyway.. so easy to go bust?  laugh.gif

still best to diversify your investments, don't put all in one basket.
anything happen to 1, you still have others that are ok.
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Thanks. Just invested a small amount first to try out

QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 22 2022, 12:33 PM)
jfi, a forummer mentioned the "problem" of this CMF fund just last month....
sweat.gif historically it was "safe", maybe top instructions or circumstances changed overtime, etc...things can change. sweat.gif
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Will it be a good idea moving all the money from other CMF, eg. Versa/SA Simple into KDI Save since it is giving better returns? A bit worried to put everything into one basket.
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The referral is not needed if we just use KDI Save, right ?
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Will it be a good idea moving all the money from other CMF, eg. Versa/SA Simple into KDI Save since it is giving better returns? A bit worried to put everything into one basket.
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IMHO, bad idea. Better to spread it out for safety purpose
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Will it be a good idea moving all the money from other CMF, eg. Versa/SA Simple into KDI Save since it is giving better returns? A bit worried to put everything into one basket.
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May be can try to re-allocate deposit portion which suitable for you.
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The referral is not needed if we just use KDI Save, right ?
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Will it be a good idea moving all the money from other CMF, eg. Versa/SA Simple into KDI Save since it is giving better returns? A bit worried to put everything into one basket.
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diversify is safer.. i put all 3...
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Thanks. Just invested a small amount first to try out
Thanks. Just invested a small amount first to try out
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Will it be a good idea moving all the money from other CMF, eg. Versa/SA Simple into KDI Save since it is giving better returns? A bit worried to put everything into one basket.
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Don't be ridiculous. I have been using mmf for like almost 7 years and no issue.
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I have 2 deposit is successful from my site ,but kdi show rejected
And fund is deducted ,i been fill in ticket yesterday til now no response ,and they have no contacts number to call...
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I have 2 deposit is successful from my site ,but kdi show rejected
And fund is deducted ,i been fill in ticket yesterday til now no response ,and they have no contacts number to call...
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They will answer your ticket during office hour only. Wait for it.
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Ok ,they just reply my issue via email after 24hour pass from my first email.
They say will refund my rejected transaction fund ,but dint mentioned how long it will take.
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QUOTE(Leroi2x @ Feb 22 2022, 07:14 PM)
Ok ,they just reply my issue via email after 24hour pass from my first email.
They say will refund my rejected transaction fund ,but dint mentioned how long it will take.
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why is it rejected?
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Cant believe it, KDI deposit cut off time (for same day interest) is so early!
Deposit 8.19Am , get interest same day.
Deposit 12.37pm no interest, u only get it next day.

Deposit on Sat and Sun no benefit, no better than do it Monday early morning.

deposit Friday afternoon is be the worst ,
no interest for Fri,Sat Sun, only get interest come Monday.

ini one same day interest is abit of a farce...must dep very early..




QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 21 2022, 06:26 PM)
~2.957% p.a. , that's about the same as mine which was 1 day worth of interest (on Monday), weekend isn't counted or processed at all.
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how you got 2.97%?

i think is 3%-----------> N x3%/365 = 1 day interest
if you put 2.97% you can see amount not correct.

QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 21 2022, 07:42 PM)
KDSave guarantees the  principal sum right?
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if get 0% return is considered bad already, mana boleh capital pun hilang
so many things in life we do we dont ask for guarantee.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2022, 01:12 PM)
They fixed the bug inside terms and condition. Now it's showing 3%p.a until 31st Dec 2022
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:18 PM)
Cant believe it, KDI  deposit cut off time (for same day interest) is so early!
Deposit 8.19Am , get interest same day.
Deposit  12.37pm  no interest, u only get it next day.

Deposit on Sat and Sun no benefit, no better than do it Monday early morning.

deposit Friday afternoon is be the worst ,
no interest for Fri,Sat Sun, only get interest  come  Monday.

ini one same day interest is abit of a farce...must dep very early..

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:18 PM)
Cant believe it, KDI  deposit cut off time (for same day interest) is so early!
Deposit 8.19Am , get interest same day.
Deposit  12.37pm  no interest, u only get it next day.

Deposit on Sat and Sun no benefit, no better than do it Monday early morning.

deposit Friday afternoon is be the worst ,
no interest for Fri,Sat Sun, only get interest  come  Monday.

ini one same day interest is abit of a farce...must dep very early..
how you got 2.97%?

i think is 3%-----------> N x3%/365 = 1 day interest
if you put 2.97% you can see amount not correct.
if get 0% return is considered bad already, mana boleh capital pun hilang
so many things in life we do we dont ask for guarantee.
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PS:anybody experienced opening acc today and unable to  get OTP on mobile  phone? Change number still cant get OTP.
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Cut-off time is 11am AFAIK.

I calculated based on my 1 day interest 0.00819875776 * 360 days = 2.9515527936 (if using 360 day rule) or 0.00819875776*365 = 2.9925465824%.

The previous number was probably me randomly rounding my daily interest to get the rough approximation, either way its like a few cents difference, I couldn't be bothered to be accurate tongue.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:18 PM)
if get 0% return is considered bad already, mana boleh capital pun hilang
so many things in life we do we dont ask for guarantee.
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Would you put 7 figure sum in it? I know you will easily reach 6 figures soon. If capital is pretty much secure, I would dare to put much more but had not so good experience with Opus money market fund last time (can't remember exactly but something like what I withdrew was less than what I deposited for my last round) plus recently mum showed the AmanahSyariah Cash Mgt Fund which plunged because of Serba Dinamik.



QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 22 2022, 09:32 PM)
Cut-off time is 11am AFAIK.

I calculated based on my 1 day interest 0.00819875776 * 360 days = 2.9515527936 (if using 360 day rule) or 0.00819875776*365 = 2.9925465824%.

The previous number was probably me randomly rounding my daily interest to get the rough approximation, either way its like a few cents difference, I couldn't be bothered to be accurate  tongue.gif
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My transaction since yesterday still pending. Thanks for the 11am cut off time info

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 22 2022, 12:33 PM)
jfi, a forummer mentioned the "problem" of this CMF fund just last month....
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 23 2022, 02:00 PM)
Would you put 7 figure sum in it? I know you will easily reach 6 figures soon. If capital is pretty much secure, I would dare to put much more but had not so good experience with Opus money market fund last time (can't remember exactly but something like what I withdrew was less than what I deposited for my last round)  plus recently mum showed the AmanahSyariah Cash Mgt Fund which plunged because of Serba Dinamik.
My transaction since yesterday still pending. Thanks for the 11am cut off time info
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 22 2022, 09:32 PM)
Cut-off time is 11am AFAIK.

I calculated based on my 1 day interest 0.00819875776 * 360 days = 2.9515527936 (if using 360 day rule) or 0.00819875776*365 = 2.9925465824%.

The previous number was probably me randomly rounding my daily interest to get the rough approximation, either way its like a few cents difference, I couldn't be bothered to be accurate  tongue.gif
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Pretty sure they use 365 rule because mine correct based on 365 days.

Btw, i banked in last nigh 7pm+ some funds, till now still PENDING. A bit slow.

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yup, this was highlighted by MUM earlier too.
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i just did a test withdrawal from KDI Save this morning at around 10am. Now it's been completed. that's very speedy! thumbup.gif

As for the withdrawl from SAMY Simple, which I requested since Monday morning, is still sitting in the account now, waiting to be executed cry.gif
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i just did a test withdrawal from KDI Save this morning at around 10am. Now it's been completed. that's very speedy!  thumbup.gif

As for the withdrawl from SAMY Simple, which I requested since Monday morning, is still sitting in the account now, waiting to be executed  cry.gif
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That's fast. SAMY is always very slow and their rates suxks. That's why I stop using them all together.
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i thought kdi invest is 0% for less than 3k investment.
I deposit RM500. On app, only show RM 492
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i thought kdi invest is 0% for less than 3k investment.
I deposit RM500. On app, only show RM 492
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Around 2% FX spread which is why
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i just did a test withdrawal from KDI Save this morning at around 10am. Now it's been completed. that's very speedy!  thumbup.gif

As for the withdrawl from SAMY Simple, which I requested since Monday morning, is still sitting in the account now, waiting to be executed  cry.gif
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Wow. Fast withdrawal for KDI Save

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Around 2% FX spread which is why
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Anything less than 3000 still 0 fees but FX spread 2% every time you deposit you won’t get full rm amount

So you need to check your portfolio in USD to see the ETF being bought at your monthly statement
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 24 2022, 08:38 AM)
Anything less than 3000 still 0 fees but FX spread 2% every time you deposit you won’t get full rm amount

So you need to check your portfolio in USD to see the ETF being bought at your monthly statement
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The charges are zero management fees for anything that is RM3000 and below.
For KDI Invest, there is still charges for expense ratio and fees conversion costs involved. Kindly also note that returns for KDI invest may dip due to fund performances of your selected risk profile's ETF portfolio.
You will be able to see the breakdown of charges in your monthly report that would be emailed to your registered email address
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here is their response
The charges are zero management fees for anything that is RM3000 and below.
For KDI Invest, there is still charges for expense ratio and fees conversion costs involved. Kindly also note that returns for KDI invest may dip due to fund performances of your selected risk profile's ETF portfolio.
You will be able to see the breakdown of charges in your monthly report that would be emailed to your registered email address
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yep i think not only the FX rate, but also because marketing keep going down for these this week, so u bought, then it drops
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Withdrawal from KDI Save is probably the fastest on the market at the moment I feel? Very smooth in my experience of withdrawing twice.
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Withdrawal from KDI Save is probably the fastest on the market at the moment I feel? Very smooth in my experience of withdrawing twice.
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Yes very very fast. if you withdrawl from KDI Save before the cut off date, you will get your money on the same day.

On Simple, I am still waiting for my money despite having the instruction carried out on Monday morning before 11am.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 24 2022, 12:25 PM)
Yes very very fast. if you withdrawl from KDI Save before the cut off date, you will get your money on the same day.

On Simple, I am still waiting for my money despite having the instruction carried out on Monday morning before 11am.
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aik? not T+1 (withdraw before cutoff)?

if same day, roughly what time received fund in your bank?
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aik? not T+1 (withdraw before cutoff)?

if same day, roughly what time received fund in your bank?
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T+1 you will likely to have received it already.
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aik? not T+1 (withdraw before cutoff)?

if same day, roughly what time received fund in your bank?
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Anyone has any thoughts what may the ETFs be? I read somewhere it's all USA based
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You can read in the FAQ section (from the mobile app) under "General KDI Invest". It got state there that they invest in US ETFs.
Only way to know exactly what ETFs is once the statement is out.. should be once a month statement? This they didn't specify.
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luckily i jz put RM250 into KDI invest (balanced) test water, now russian attack ukraine everything gonna be down to drain
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 24 2022, 04:20 PM)
luckily i jz put RM250 into KDI invest (balanced) test water, now russian attack ukraine everything gonna be down to drain
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if long term invest they will come back up.. any losses are just paper loss until they are sold.

my IBKR now also much red, CSPX loss 180 USD, AAPL 40 USD, PFE 28 USD, SMH 45 USD, VWRA 42 USD. All are my losses for them. moneyflies.gif
Even BNKS - bank ETFs also loss at 24 USD.
Fall happened after Fed announced raising interest rates.

mostly bought end of last year.. this year added a few. That also I small investor.. imagine what some big whales here would have loss.
just continue DCA when you're comfortable and keep it long term. 5-10 years minimum sure will go back up. flex.gif

can wait for Russia war to over first before putting in money.. but as usual when things start showing positive, stocks also will be more expensive to buy. Better to buy when they are down.

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 24 2022, 01:21 PM)
Wed, Feb 23, 5:20 AM Requested via website.
Wed, Feb 23, 4:29 PM Received processing done email.
Wednesday late evening received money in bank account.
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Advantage of having internal treasury seems like before cut off will received on the same day so technically within 6 hours the fastest rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 24 2022, 04:34 PM)
if long term invest they will come back up.. any losses are just paper loss until they are sold.

my IBKR now also much red, CSPX loss 180 USD, AAPL 40 USD, PFE 28 USD, SMH 45 USD, VWRA 42 USD. All are my losses for them. moneyflies.gif
Even BNKS - bank ETFs also loss at 24 USD.
Fall happened after Fed announced raising interest rates.

mostly bought end of last year.. this year added a few. That also I small investor.. imagine what some big whales here would have loss.
just continue DCA when you're comfortable and keep it long term. 5-10 years minimum sure will go back up.  flex.gif

can wait for Russia war to over first before putting in money.. but as usual when things start showing positive, stocks also will be more expensive to buy. Better to buy when they are down.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 24 2022, 04:20 PM)
luckily i jz put RM250 into KDI invest (balanced) test water, now russian attack ukraine everything gonna be down to drain
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Still going to go down. Probably should wait until it goes down a bit more before enter.
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Strongly against investment in KDI Invest. My risk profile is “conservative” but it ended invested in “Agressive” porfolio for me. Send email to customer service but after two days still cannot find out what is the problem. in the mean time i have to bear the losses.
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Strongly against investment in KDI Invest. My risk profile is “conservative” but it ended invested in “Agressive” porfolio for me. Send email to customer service but after two days still cannot find out what is the problem. in the mean time i have to bear the losses.
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That is bad, especially in times like this.... All mkts down badly..

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QUOTE(ky33li @ Feb 24 2022, 07:17 PM)
Strongly against investment in KDI Invest. My risk profile is “conservative” but it ended invested in “Agressive” porfolio for me. Send email to customer service but after two days still cannot find out what is the problem. in the mean time i have to bear the losses.
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Get the statement and make noise on it doh.gif

Seems like another bigger Akru in the making doh.gif
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Seems like both the user and referred person need to invest 250 minimum into the KDI Invest before can earn referral bonus. Just did it.. Chose Balanced portfolio. Better than get nothing if just have KDI save:


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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 25 2022, 09:20 AM)
Seems like both the user and referred person need to invest 250 minimum into the KDI Invest before can earn referral bonus. Just did it.. Chose Balanced portfolio. Better than get nothing if just have KDI save:
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you can invest first and withdraw it later, i doubt you will see more losses than RM10 in the very near term if you are investing the min sum of RM250. Still a win-win solution.


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you can invest first and withdraw it later, i doubt you will see more losses than RM10 in the very near term if you are investing the min sum of RM250. Still a win-win solution.
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my balanced portfolio losing RM4.00+ from RM250 cost dah, fck warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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QUOTE(ky33li @ Feb 24 2022, 07:17 PM)
Strongly against investment in KDI Invest. My risk profile is “conservative” but it ended invested in “Agressive” porfolio for me. Send email to customer service but after two days still cannot find out what is the problem. in the mean time i have to bear the losses.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 25 2022, 10:11 AM)
my balanced portfolio losing RM4.00+ from RM250 cost dah, fck warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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ahahah, i just checked mine, down by approximately the same amount like yours too cry.gif
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 25 2022, 10:11 AM)
my balanced portfolio losing RM4.00+ from RM250 cost dah, fck warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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ok la now bear market also.. what Stock or ETF also more down than up. moneyflies.gif
once all this is over we will fly to the moooonn... thumbup.gif

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I have transferred RM1k from KDI Save to KDI Invest at 3:35AM. My risk profile is Aggressive Growth. The transfer status is still pending.

How can buy some in this bad market and exited to know the ETF type.

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Feb 25 2022, 01:52 PM)
I have transferred RM1k from KDI Save to KDI Invest at 3:35AM. My risk profile is Aggressive Growth. The transfer status is still pending.

How can buy some in this bad market and exited to know the ETF type.
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Need to wait statement to know what they are investing in. Likely after a month.
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Have they got back to you yet?
ahahah, i just checked mine, down by approximately the same amount like yours too  cry.gif
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mine i put 250 .. eh eh eh.. now i check 252.24 (as at 3.30pm)
aggresive growth

but i like how i get interest daily reflected.. vs with VERSA its a guessing game.
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The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc

3% - 2.25% = 0.75%

0.75% x RM 200,000 (max) = RM 1,500

RM 1,500 / 12 mths = RM 125/mth

Each new customer max cost of marketing is RM 125 x 10.5mths = RM 1,312.50
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The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc

3% - 2.25% = 0.75%

0.75% x RM 200,000 (max) = RM 1,500

RM 1,500 / 12 mths = RM 125/mth

Each new customer max cost of marketing is RM 125 x 10.5mths = RM 1,312.50
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Where did you get 0.75%
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The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc

3% - 2.25% = 0.75%

0.75% x RM 200,000 (max) = RM 1,500

RM 1,500 / 12 mths = RM 125/mth

Each new customer max cost of marketing is RM 125 x 10.5mths = RM 1,312.50
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Wah so much cash omg.. 😱

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 25 2022, 07:07 PM)
Where did you get 0.75%
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While waiting for his response,...
Looking at his calculation....
My guess for that 3 - 2.25 = 0.75%..
The 3% was referencing the 3% given by KDI while the 2.25% is the normal FD rate. Thus the 0.75 will be the variance
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2022, 08:30 PM)
While waiting for his response,...
Looking at his calculation....
My guess for that 3 - 2.25 = 0.75%..
The 3% was referencing the 3% given by KDI while the 2.25% is the normal FD rate. Thus the 0.75 will be the variance
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The nominal rate of KDI Save is 2.25%, which means if your placement is more than 200k, whatever amount above 200k will get 2.25%.

And if after promotion end (31st Dec 2022), provided OPR still maintain the same, KDI Save will still give 2.25%pa return.

So KDI Save can generate 2.25% for investor, and now they giving 3%, hence the difference of 0.75% pa

Hope my explanation is easy to understand.
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The nominal rate of KDI Save is 2.25%, which means if your placement is more than 200k, whatever amount above 200k will get 2.25%.

And if after promotion end (31st Dec 2022), provided OPR still maintain the same, KDI Save will still give 2.25%pa return.

So KDI Save can generate 2.25% for investor, and now they giving 3%, hence the difference of 0.75% pa

Hope my explanation is easy to understand.
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You posted earlier,... "The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc"
So after the promo period,... Those cost will come into their operation causing them not able to continue to gives the 0.75% more?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2022, 08:30 PM)
While waiting for his response,...
Looking at his calculation....
My guess for that 3 - 2.25 = 0.75%..
The 3% was referencing the 3% given by KDI while the 2.25% is the normal FD rate. Thus the 0.75 will be the variance
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Where can get normal FD rate at 2.25% ?? biggrin.gif I also want!

Confirm no where can get better than KDI Save, 3%pa compound daily, same working day withdrawal, safe MM instrument...If you got better, let me know ya, hahahaha drool.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:17 PM)
Where can get normal FD rate at 2.25% ??  biggrin.gif  I also want!
Check the FD thread... They hv promo rate
Confirm no where can get better than KDI Save, 3%pa compound daily, same working day withdrawal, safe MM instrument...If you got better, let me know ya, hahahaha  drool.gif
how safe is safe?. Money market fund have risk...just last month a local cash management fund dropped 19% in a few days . Want safe,.. Try sspn? .
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 25 2022, 10:15 PM)
You posted earlier,... "The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc"
So after the promo period,... Those cost will come into their operation causing them not able to continue to  gives the 0.75% more?
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It depends if the marketing dept still can get such budget for promotion, but to my opinion not likely continue the same campaign, will get backfire like TnG GO+.

They are starting from zero, this is the time they grow the customer base, gain AUM, market awareness, encourage referral through world of mouth and establish brand name, hopefully marketing dept will get lot's of budget and throw to us, just like how TnG started, Boost, Shopee, Lazada...

Most likely they will encourage customer transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest. Probably the next promo will be giving cashback by transfer to KDI Invest? Hopefully....
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You are right MUM, SSPN is safer than KDI, because it's backed by government

I do put in SSPN too, but no syok cos need to wait next year Feb only can see dividend, and need to put in before 5th to enjoy dividend for that particular month

Withdrawal SSPN fastest next working day only get

Sorry, I am new, can someone PM me how to delete this as it's redundant to the next notworthy.gif

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Put in FD my fund will lock up for at least 1 mth, no partial withdrawal

You are right MUM, SSPN is safer than KDI, because it's backed by government

I do put in SSPN too, but no syok cos need to wait next year Feb only can see dividend, and need to put in before 5th to enjoy dividend for that particular month

Withdrawal SSPN fastest next working day only get

Which cash management fund? Mind share? Or PM
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:24 PM)
It depends if the marketing dept still can get such budget for promotion, but to my opinion not likely continue the same campaign, will get backfire like TnG GO+.

They are starting from zero, this is the time they grow the customer base, gain AUM, market awareness, encourage referral through world of mouth and establish brand name, hopefully marketing dept will get lot's of budget and throw to us, just like how TnG started, Boost, Shopee, Lazada...

Most likely they will encourage customer transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest. Probably the next promo will be giving cashback by transfer to KDI Invest? Hopefully....
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So it was most probably actually this "It depends if the marketing dept still can get such budget for promotion, but to my opinion not likely continue the same campaign" and not "The 3% guarantee probably is their marketing cost as they saved the cost of intermediary, call center, fund manager etc"

Promotional Money used to spend to market the KDI instead of using the money saved from marketing cost to gives back to the depositors🤔🤔

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:31 PM)
Put in FD my fund will lock up for at least 1 mth, no partial withdrawal

You are right MUM, SSPN is safer than KDI, because it's backed by government

I do put in SSPN too, but no syok cos need to wait next year Feb only can see dividend, and need to put in before 5th to enjoy dividend for that particular month

Withdrawal SSPN fastest next working day only get

Which cash management fund? Mind share? Or PM
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:31 PM)
Put in FD my fund will lock up for at least 1 mth, no partial withdrawal

You are right MUM, SSPN is safer than KDI, because it's backed by government

I do put in SSPN too, but no syok cos need to wait next year Feb only can see dividend, and need to put in before 5th to enjoy dividend for that particular month

Withdrawal SSPN fastest next working day only get

Which cash management fund? Mind share? Or PM
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I disagree SSPN is much safer. SSPN savings pretty much lend to students for PTPTN loans. If you look at number on collections which very much fall short and against SSPN contribution. It is like musical chair. If all depositors pull out all funds at once I dont think PTPTN cannot pay you 100%. Bear in mind total PTPTN outstanding is around RM40billion. For 3% dividend really not worth the risk at all.

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If the collection for ptptn is well managed why is Government offering such high tax deduction for depositors in SSPN?
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If the collection for ptptn is well managed why is Government offering such high tax deduction for depositors in SSPN?
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most probably is to encourage the parents to save for their kids so as not to rely for $$ from the Govt when the time comes since they have known they had issues with past collections of "thought to be deserved free money from Govt"?

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I disagree SSPN is much safer. SSPN savings pretty much lend to students for PTPTN loans. If you look at number on collections which very much fall short and against SSPN contribution. It is like musical chair. If all depositors pull out all funds at once I dont think PTPTN cannot pay you 100%. Bear in mind total PTPTN outstanding is around RM40billion. For 3% dividend really not worth the risk at all.
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Don’t forget that SSPN are actually backed by govt because it is mostly goes to MGS bonds

It is only safe for principal value but however if there any changes on coupon rates there goes your troubles instead of worrying about the loans repayment doh.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:17 PM)
Where can get normal FD rate at 2.25% ??  biggrin.gif  I also want!

Confirm no where can get better than KDI Save, 3%pa compound daily, same working day withdrawal, safe MM instrument...If you got better, let me know ya, hahahaha  drool.gif
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got....HLB FD promo till 28 Feb .2.25% for 3 month
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Would you recommend to put in KDI invest or Stashaway? I currently have 5 digits in Stashaway but the 36% risk index is disappointing, mostly due to KWEB.

Im planning to stop putting into STASHAWAY and diversity into KDI.
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Would you recommend to put in KDI invest or Stashaway? I currently have 5 digits in Stashaway but the 36% risk index is disappointing, mostly due to KWEB.

Im planning to stop putting into STASHAWAY and diversity into KDI.
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dont think anyone can provide useful recommendation or advise because by far we dunno what is the underlying asset/ETF under each portfolio of KDI Invest
as well, KDI invest is new so there isn't any trailing performance for reference.
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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Feb 26 2022, 12:19 PM)
Would you recommend to put in KDI invest or Stashaway? I currently have 5 digits in Stashaway but the 36% risk index is disappointing, mostly due to KWEB.

Im planning to stop putting into STASHAWAY and diversity into KDI.
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I won't recommend KDI or stashaway. Why pay people for doing something that you yourself can do?

If it's me, I would just buy qqq + soxx every month. That's more than enough for me.
I don't think both stashaway and kdi can outperform the QQQ. It's cheaper and get better returns over long time to DIY Vs paying middle man to do something that you self yourself can do.

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Anyone know if money is already inside KDI Save , will we get interest over the weekends?

I know if money is pending transfer no interest. So I am curious about money already inside KDI save.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 02:41 PM)
Anyone know if money is already inside KDI Save , will we get interest over the weekends?

I know if money is pending transfer no interest. So I am curious about money already inside KDI save.
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Yes, you will interest over weekend and holiday

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Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 26 2022, 03:02 PM)
Yes, you will interest over weekend and holiday

extra info:
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2022, 06:07 PM)
I deposited on Sat and Sun, today  can see 1 day interest paid .

My 2nd acc opened Saturday 5.30pm, only approved 12.30pm Mon
Deposited money straight away, still pending, if this also earn 1 day interest later on tonight,
that means  no point deposit on Sat or Sun,
might as well wait till Monday only deposit.

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:18 PM)
Cant believe it, KDI  deposit cut off time (for same day interest) is so early!

Deposit 8.19Am , get interest same day.
Deposit  12.37pm  no interest, u only get it next day.

Deposit on Sat and Sun no benefit, no better than do it Monday early morning.

deposit Friday afternoon is be the worst ,
no interest for Fri,Sat Sun, only get interest  come  Monday.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 02:41 PM)
Anyone know if money is already inside KDI Save , will we get interest over the weekends?

I know if money is pending transfer no interest. So I am curious about money already inside KDI save.
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seems like dont have...
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Would you recommend to put in KDI invest or Stashaway? I currently have 5 digits in Stashaway but the 36% risk index is disappointing, mostly due to KWEB.

Im planning to stop putting into STASHAWAY and diversity into KDI.
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Stop putting into SA and only put max of 3000 to avoid and save fees

Anything extra DIY yourself buying whatever you feel c9mfortable to grow with plain and simple
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Stop putting into SA and only put max of 3000 to avoid and save fees

Anything extra DIY yourself buying whatever you feel c9mfortable to grow with plain and simple
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Put 3k in, profit 0.0001% instantly kena fee doh.gif
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Even you put in any other robo there’s is spread doh.gif

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Feb 26 2022, 04:34 PM)
seems like dont have...
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I meant if you already have money inside KDI save, will it have interest on Saturday and Sunday. Not deposit on Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Say you deposited money on Thursday a.m before 11am, so interest Thursday, Friday confirm got.
Saturday, Sunday?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 05:56 PM)
I meant if you already have money inside KDI save, will it have interest on Saturday and Sunday. Not deposit on Friday/Saturday/Sunday.

Say you deposited money on Thursday a.m before 11am, so interest Thursday, Friday confirm got.
Saturday, Sunday?
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perhaps i misread your question biggrin.gif

i havent reached my weekend aging. bare few days old laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Feb 26 2022, 06:14 PM)
perhaps i misread your question biggrin.gif

i havent reached my weekend aging. bare few days old  laugh.gif
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Alright. Cause I got money inside there. So this is first week. So not sure if they will give interest over weekend.
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 22 2022, 09:32 PM)
Cut-off time is 11am AFAIK.

I calculated based on my 1 day interest 0.00819875776 * 360 days = 2.9515527936 (if using 360 day rule) or 0.00819875776*365 = 2.9925465824%.

The previous number was probably me randomly rounding my daily interest to get the rough approximation, either way its like a few cents difference, I couldn't be bothered to be accurate  tongue.gif
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yeah right tested cut off is 11am.

why u used 360 days as 1 year?


QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 23 2022, 02:00 PM)
Would you put 7 figure sum in it? I know you will easily reach 6 figures soon. If capital is pretty much secure, I would dare to put much more but had not so good experience with Opus money market fund last time (can't remember exactly but something like what I withdrew was less than what I deposited for my last round)  plus recently mum showed the AmanahSyariah Cash Mgt Fund which plunged because of Serba Dinamik.
My transaction since yesterday still pending. Thanks for the 11am cut off time info
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No lah, limit 3% upto 200 only, but for parking more i still ok ,
highest in the money market, think Versa also dont pay 2.25%


QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 23 2022, 04:52 PM)
i just did a test withdrawal from KDI Save this morning at around 10am. Now it's been completed. that's very speedy!  thumbup.gif

As for the withdrawl from SAMY Simple, which I requested since Monday morning, is still sitting in the account now, waiting to be executed  cry.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Feb 25 2022, 10:17 PM)
Where can get normal FD rate at 2.25% ??  biggrin.gif  I also want!

Confirm no where can get better than KDI Save, 3%pa compound daily, same working day withdrawal, safe MM instrument...If you got better, let me know ya, hahahaha  drool.gif
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you would be surprised i have 4.85% FD

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 08:13 PM)
Alright. Cause I got money inside there. So this is first week. So not sure if they will give interest over weekend.
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Money invested already is expected to earn daily interest, so yes we should get interest daily now onwards including PH.

I just checked and saw interest updated, surprised Sat evening also updated...

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Can't even see the allocation percentage if we want to change risk profile..

I took aggressive growth, it has 53% in real estates.

I want to know much is allocation of that in other risk profiles.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 02:37 PM)
I won't recommend KDI or stashaway. Why pay people for doing something that you yourself can do?

If it's me, I would just buy qqq + soxx every month. That's more than enough for me.
I don't think both stashaway and kdi can outperform the QQQ. It's cheaper and get better returns over long time  to DIY Vs paying middle man to do something that you self yourself can do.
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why qqq and soxx instead of cspx or vwra? also they kena full 30% withhoding tax.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 26 2022, 08:51 PM)
you would be surprised i have 4.85% FD
Money invested already is expected to earn daily interest, so yes we should get interest daily now onwards including PH.

I just checked and saw interest updated, surprised Sat evening also updated...

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I assumed the 4 85%p.a interest is placed about 3-4 years ago.

Wow that's good.
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Guys what's the benefits of KDI save vs versa vs SA simple?

I saw that all of them have daily compound interest, only difference is the time it takes to reflect in account and the withdrawal time.

It's 3% p.a, but if I only put for 6 months, will it make any difference between KDI vs Versa vs simple?

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 26 2022, 10:29 PM)
Guys what's the benefits of KDI save vs versa vs SA simple?

I saw that all of them have daily compound interest, only difference is the time it takes to reflect in account and the withdrawal time.

It's 3% p.a, but if I only put for 6 months, will it make any difference between KDI vs Versa vs simple?
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IMHO the KDI guaranteed rate 3% vs Simple's non-guaranteed rate 2.4% is already convincing enough?

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 26 2022, 10:29 PM)
Guys what's the benefits of KDI save vs versa vs SA simple?

I saw that all of them have daily compound interest, only difference is the time it takes to reflect in account and the withdrawal time.

It's 3% p.a, but if I only put for 6 months, will it make any difference between KDI vs Versa vs simple?
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Simple slow as s*it. Not even recommended. Avoid
Versa rates are lower than KDI save.
KDI have faster deposit and withdrawal speed and higher interest Vs versa.

Correction. It's for 9 months. Promo rate valid until 31st December 2022

If your amount is small, it's insignificant. If amount say rm100k, big difference.

Up to you. People giving you free money, up to you want to take or not. For me I already transfer everything I have with Versa over to KDI save even though I have amount less than rm10k.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 26 2022, 11:05 PM)
IMHO the KDI guaranteed rate 3% vs Simple's non-guaranteed rate 2.4$ is already convincing enough?
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He don't want free money. Hehe...
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Feb 26 2022, 11:05 PM)
IMHO the KDI guaranteed rate 3% vs Simple's non-guaranteed rate 2.4$ is already convincing enough?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 11:10 PM)
Simple slow as s*it. Not even recommended. Avoid
Versa rates are lower than KDI save.
KDI have faster deposit and withdrawal speed and higher interest Vs versa.

Correction. It's for 9 months. Promo rate valid until 31st December 2022

If your amount is small, it's insignificant. If amount say rm100k, big difference.

Up to you. People giving you free money, up to you want to take or not. For me I already transfer everything I have with Versa over to KDI save even though I have amount less than rm10k.
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make sense, probably im just overthinking it
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make sense, probably im just overthinking it
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Just do all and compare

Then move all the highest one plain and simple rclxms.gif
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KDI Save: 10am deposit, 4pm show up in account.

Doesn't get any faster than this, happy user on KDI Save at least.
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Feb 26 2022, 11:25 PM)
make sense, probably im just overthinking it
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Kenanga is a public listed investment bank under KLSE with stock ticker KENANGA.

They cannot afford to mess things up, else will be bad for their image and investors' confidence.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 28 2022, 05:01 PM)
Kenanga is a public listed investment bank under KLSE with stock ticker KENANGA.

They cannot afford to mess things up, else will be bad for their image and investors' confidence.
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lol, dun see them so highly. that's all i can say.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 28 2022, 05:01 PM)
Kenanga is a public listed investment bank under KLSE with stock ticker KENANGA.

They cannot afford to mess things up, else will be bad for their image and investors' confidence.
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Serba Dinamik is also a public listed company. Just saying haha.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 28 2022, 05:24 PM)
lol, dun see them so highly. that's all i can say.
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at least we'll know if shit about to happen.. got auditors checking their books every year.

well even banks can fall.. if want safest then go for Fixed Deposit.. problem with that is funds are locked for a duration. Got PIDM protect up to certain amount.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 28 2022, 05:35 PM)
at least we'll know if shit about to happen.. got auditors checking their books every year.

well even banks can fall.. if want safest then go for Fixed Deposit.. problem with that is funds are locked for a duration. Got PIDM protect up to certain amount.
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they are not going to fail as a bank and in terms of their operation.

but their customer service is something that you might get disappointed later.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 28 2022, 05:01 PM)
Kenanga is a public listed investment bank
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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Feb 28 2022, 05:25 PM)
Serba Dinamik is also a public listed company. Just saying haha.
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I'm just more concern about the safety of using their app. Don't see any biometric or 2FA security. What if someone hack our logins and able to withdraw money into their own accounts? Does Kenanga take responsibility if that happens? Will they make sure only same account name can withdraw?

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 28 2022, 07:29 PM)
I'm just more concern about the safety of using their app. Don't see any biometric or 2FA security. What if someone hack our logins and able to withdraw money into their own accounts? Does Kenanga take responsibility if that happens? Will they make sure only same account name can withdraw?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 02:37 PM)
I won't recommend KDI or stashaway. Why pay people for doing something that you yourself can do?

If it's me, I would just buy qqq + soxx every month. That's more than enough for me.
I don't think both stashaway and kdi can outperform the QQQ. It's cheaper and get better returns over long time  to DIY Vs paying middle man to do something that you self yourself can do.
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haha honestly i end up also put in consistent to stashaway and kdi.. malas to monitor already

initially tot their robo can do a better job.


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just received email that statement is ready.. seems like on every 1st of the month. Anyone can share their KDI Invest ETF holdings? like how many % in which ETFs for your risk selection?
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This is the breakdown of BALANCED KID invest portfolio biggrin.gif


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This is the breakdown of BALANCED KID invest portfolio  biggrin.gif
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Still a lot of cash on hand rclxms.gif plus only China to AAXJ exposure
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wah all their selections good leh.. much better than Stashaway.

SPY, QQQ, VT, VWOB, VNQ all are good ETFs. Many diversified bond ETFs also.

only ASHR is pure China ETF but don't see any allocation to it, maybe in future when it improves.

so far looks good.. prefer this over Stashaway's portfolio any time thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(AppleChaz @ Mar 1 2022, 10:14 AM)
Aggressive Growth

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it seems even their most aggrestive portfolio is rather 'safe play' with their major allocation (~40%+) onto VT

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yea... KDI aggressive "can fight" with Stashaway ESG

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would there be any tangible difference(s) if I am to deposit $$ now (to KDI Save) or just wait till tomorrow morning (before 11am cutoff)?

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would there be any tangible difference(s) if I am to deposit $$ now (to KDI Save) or just wait till tomorrow morning (before 11am cutoff)?
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Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:33 PM)
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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yes i'm aware of this

that means depositing now (1pm++) vs tomorrow morning (before 11am), has no difference.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 1 2022, 01:36 PM)
yes i'm aware of this

that means depositing now (1pm++) vs tomorrow morning (before 11am), has no difference.
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If I were to be you, I will deposit now as tomorrow tend to forget and miss 11am again....hahahah
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:38 PM)
If I were to be you, I will deposit now as tomorrow tend to forget and miss 11am again....hahahah
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hahahah true also since 11am is kinda early

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:33 PM)
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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thanks sharing! pin-ed your finding in the first thread thumbup.gif
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what is this? SHV, BWX etc?
Need to google one by one to find out?


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QUOTE(bcombat @ Mar 1 2022, 03:35 PM)
what is this? SHV, BWX etc?
Need to google one by one to find out?
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the ETF name, yep
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 1 2022, 10:22 AM)
wah all their selections good leh.. much better than Stashaway.

SPY, QQQ, VT, VWOB, VNQ all are good ETFs. Many diversified bond ETFs also.

only ASHR is pure China ETF but don't see any allocation to it, maybe in future when it improves.

so far looks good.. prefer this over Stashaway's portfolio any time  thumbup.gif
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what is this? SHV, BWX etc?
Need to google one by one to find out?
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SHV is ishares short term us treasury bond

BWX is bloomberg us treasury bond most likely short to medium term

In fact the bond are solids so far
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bcombat yup... once u get used to it, less learning curve to DIY. watch yahoo finance live on youtube also senang

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search the code on google finance or yahoo finance, will be faster
I cannot imagine KDI using EWM (malaysia) etf to invest though. 1 big roundabout

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ETF names here

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Look like everyone portfolio is slightly different

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 1 2022, 03:54 PM)
bcombat yup... once u get used to it, less learning curve to DIY. watch yahoo finance live on youtube also senang

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some ppl die2 don't want to DIY coz of time and trouble (need to transfer money here and there), and also more likely to keep checking their investments since they managing it themselves. They rather just concentrate fully in their work/study.

Actually I'm also tempted to just use Robo advisor 100%.. sometimes feel pain keep use Wise to send money to IBKR. If invest in the more niche ETF will concern also - once a day will check at least. For Robo advisors they will help rebalance when an ETF is not doing too good, or change it to another. If DIY all these have to ownself handle.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 1 2022, 04:07 PM)
some ppl die2 don't want to DIY coz of time and trouble (need to transfer money here and there), and also more likely to keep checking their investments since they managing it themselves. They rather just concentrate fully in their work/study.

Actually I'm also tempted to just use Robo advisor 100%.. sometimes feel pain keep use Wise to send money to IBKR. If invest in the more niche ETF will concern also - once a day will check at least. For Robo advisors they will help rebalance when an ETF is not doing too good, or change it to another. If DIY all these have to ownself handle.
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ROBO adavantages is rebalancing, reoptimizing and fractional shares

DIY is for long term hold one way and only cash out as a last resort

If robo can sell and rebuy the same day via float system that’s would be next level investing rclxms.gif
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Register yesterday, approved today, money in morning to KDI save, afternoon confirmed in with interest...

Impressive...
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Given the supposed "fully AI-driven" method of managing portfolios, makes sense that each portfolio is slightly different

and probably also why they don't release a list of ETFs, as unlike other robos where fund manager assigns weightage and sticks to that until to next "reoptimising", looks like the computer is the one that makes decisions on what to buy and how much depending on market conditions.
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QUOTE(footie_ft @ Mar 1 2022, 04:23 PM)
Very efficient...
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Impressive...
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Did a test withdrawal of 10 bucks. Transaction section says success, but at my Maybank account couldn’t see it. Will wait tomorrow see if the amount reflected or not. Double checked my account number and saw it is correct.
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Did a test withdrawal of 10 bucks. Transaction section says success, but at my Maybank account couldn’t see it. Will wait tomorrow see if the amount reflected or not. Double checked my account number and saw it is correct.
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now that the ETFs for KDI has come out, any thoughts?

Seem like KDI focuses only on USA, quite scared if anything happens, while SA is more international that includes Canada and Australia
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Since last year,....there are investors moving out of SA into some other platforms that had heavy US equities portfolio...

and they had been telling that they are very pleased with the result....alot better than what SA had made for them.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 1 2022, 09:08 PM)
Since last year,....there are investors moving out of SA into some other platforms that had heavy US equities portfolio...

and they had been telling that they are very pleased with the result....alot better than what SA had made for them.
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Every time I had to key-in username/pw to login. Is there anyway to login by fingerprint or smth?
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KDI Save is a beast though, gonna stay with them for the entire campaign period for sure.
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Impressive...
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Wait till when you need to get your refund processed. Their CS also not replying to my email query
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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 1 2022, 09:08 PM)
and they had been telling that they are very pleased with the result....alot better than what SA had made for them.
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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 1 2022, 09:03 PM)
Seem like KDI focuses only on USA, quite scared if anything happens, while SA is more international that includes Canada and Australia
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their major allocation (~40%+) onto VT
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First RM3k managed for free by KDI invest. I will utilize this as part of my portfolio.. Investing in "conservative" risk since my IBKR DIY portfolio is already aggressive. Being 30+ good to have some reserves in bonds and KDI Invest one of the ways for me to do it.

Too many type of bond ETFs till I'm confused when looking at them. So gonna let a robo do it for me.

KDI save is gooding if don't wanna leave too much cash in savings yet still need it for emergency use. Quick withdrawal useful in this case. 3% till end of year is great.. hope next year's rate is at least as good as Versa's.

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Go to their website on a pc and use chat function if u want a faster reply. I just tried it today.
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Via fpx. Name must matched exactly between account and the one registered in KDI
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refund would take days
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now that the ETFs for KDI has come out, any thoughts?

Seem like KDI focuses only on USA, quite scared if anything happens, while SA is more international that includes Canada and Australia
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YOU need to check list as there international from Ewz to rsx which is currently trending crash doh.gif
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YOU need to check list as there international from Ewz to rsx which is currently trending crash  doh.gif
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don't see anyone's porfolio has these 2 allocated. It's just there in the statement.
KDI should remove them if they are currently not investing in these ETFs.
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i think it's there for the "AI" to choose. so if you are unlucky to have it chosen for you, make noise to kenaga to remove.
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 2 2022, 10:09 AM)
i think it's there for the "AI" to choose. so if you are unlucky to have it chosen for you, make noise to kenaga to remove.
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There's still a fund manager that set the AI on what to invest in. Similar to Stashaway having Freddy Lim to manage and set which ETFs to buy for every risk portfolio chosen (which explains why always see KWEB in their general investing portfolio). Majority of the process then they are managed by AI - such as buy/sell orders.

If this part (choosing which ETFs to buy) leave it to AI to decide then is dangerous liao.. current AI still not smart/safe enough to make such decisions.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:01 AM)
don't see anyone's porfolio has these 2 allocated. It's just there in the statement.
KDI should remove them if they are currently not investing in these ETFs.
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If it in the list it means they are allocated it for portfolio management doh.gif

Only thing is question on how they use the AI for the asset allocation

QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 2 2022, 10:09 AM)
i think it's there for the "AI" to choose. so if you are unlucky to have it chosen for you, make noise to kenaga to remove.
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Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/investment/...bo-advisor.html

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The artificial intelligence engine behind KDI Invest – dubbed the Factor Analytics Machine Learning Engine (F.A.M.E.) – will monitor global market conditions and rebalances customers’ portfolios automatically, thereby offering convenience and removing the influence of human emotions. Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.


As of now seems like they focusing on US market:

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KDI Invest invests in a fixed pool of ETFs, carefully screened and curated to offer a range of top-performing developed and emerging equities, fixed income, commodities, and currencies. According to its FAQ, KDI stated that KDI Invest is focused on the US stock exchange market because the US market “offers the most liquid, deepest, and widest range of ETFs covering asset classes across the world, compared to ETFs listed in other countries.”


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refer to the FAQ by KDI themselves?
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2022, 01:47 PM)
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KDI doing investing forrest gump style ke?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:27 AM)
Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:
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Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:

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Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.


better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:27 AM)
Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/investment/...bo-advisor.html
As of now seems like they focusing on US market:
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Not focusing on US market share but focusing on US exchange offering ETFs covering asset classes across the world doh.gif

Which is why EWZ and RSX are in the list or pool
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Not focusing on US market share but focusing on US exchange offering ETFs covering asset classes across the world  doh.gif

Which is why EWZ and RSX are in the list or pool
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If the AI is claimed to be that smart they will avoid these 2 for now.. maybe one day when they shooting to moon then only invest in them (unlikely). smile.gif

will monitor the statements closely.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:
better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB  whistling.gif
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SA also stress test doh.gif

Different style whereby SA it is fixed asset allocation whereby KDI dynamic asset allocation

While MyTheo is in between those 2
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:33 AM)
If the AI is claimed to be that smart they will avoid these 2 for now.. maybe one day when they shooting to moon then only invest in them (unlikely).  smile.gif

will monitor the statements closely.
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EWZ is Brazil ETF which is fine because is heavily dominated by commodities export

While RSX is currently a basket case thanks to Putin

Why KDI choose both in the pool it is because allocation to EM and commodities export driven while SA are oth are allocating via EWA and EWC

You should be worried instead if they allocating it to EWM doh.gif and by the time you monitor the statements it is too late as they have allocated the buy order already doh.gif

KDI it is more 100% on their FAME ML which you can questioned the manager who are doing the asset allocation without any disclosure upfront doh.gif

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so KDI uses FAME to determine what ETFs to pick. while DAAS is used to give you the ETF ratio based on your risk appetite

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
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Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.
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sorry but this is a potential alarm for me. luckily u quoted it again as i missed it the first time around.

backtesting will have the danger of curve fitting, and kenaga definitely won't tell us how well they eliminate it. tell us how robust it is, don't tell us how profitable it is if trading as though it was 2005

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:
better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB whistling.gif
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From SA....they too have it.

Just a note though, I think Data from the past years would definitely does not contains data on XI or Putin current actions....

Thus that is why some people want an active managed platform that is dynamic... But that would also can be changed just overnight like the case over Interpac funds... From highly aggressive to 100% cash



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so KDI uses FAME to determine what ETFs to pick. while DAAS is used to give you the ETF ratio based on your risk appetite

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sorry but this is a potential alarm for me. luckily u quoted it again as i missed it the first time around.

backtesting will have the danger of curve fitting, and kenaga definitely won't tell us how well they eliminate it. tell us how robust it is, don't tell us how profitable it is if trading as though it was 2005
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will test it out to see for myself. so far only 1k in Invest to see how the conservative portfolio will perform.

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If you're deposit after the cutoff time (11am), probably will reflect by today. You may check later around 5pm.  biggrin.gif
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Someone mentioned in an earlier post that it also took them about a day for approval as well.

Wonder if using a referral code would've sped up the process..
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Someone mentioned in an earlier post that it also took them about a day for approval as well.

Wonder if using a referral code would've sped up the process..
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After looking through KDI invest i think I'll pass, as some mentioned the lack of transparency on backtesting is a bit of a red flag for me.

That said, the 0 fees for under RM3k makes this nice for very small fry investor beginners.

KDI Save will be good for short term cash parking with current rates.
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After looking through KDI invest i think I'll pass, as some mentioned the lack of transparency on backtesting is a bit of a red flag for me.

That said, the 0 fees for under RM3k makes this nice for very small fry investor beginners.

KDI Save will be good for short term cash parking with current rates.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 2 2022, 05:22 PM)
After looking through KDI invest i think I'll pass, as some mentioned the lack of transparency on backtesting is a bit of a red flag for me.

That said, the 0 fees for under RM3k makes this nice for very small fry investor beginners.

KDI Save will be good for short term cash parking with current rates.
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For those of you already invested in KDI Invest, does it give you any breakdown on what ETFs portfolios is your money invested in? I made an account, but after answering robo questions, only give options to choose risk. No option to see where money is invested to.
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after get statement only will know the allocation. on 1st every month.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 2 2022, 05:22 PM)
After looking through KDI invest i think I'll pass, as some mentioned the lack of transparency on backtesting is a bit of a red flag for me.

That said, the 0 fees for under RM3k makes this nice for very small fry investor beginners.

KDI Save will be good for short term cash parking with current rates.
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Same here. I just contacted them. A lot of people have requested this, but they are still not providing it. There are few competitors in ETF's especially by banking sector. They too breakdown the details of where your money is deposited if you ask them details not provided in the brochure.

KDI save only pays 3% per annum prorate. Depending if you have like Amanah Saham (even not the Bumiputra), will still give higher rates. Hellogold can give goo returns too, if you are the patient type.
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Hi, for those who would like to refer. icon_rolleyes.gif

Started out with 'Conservative', then changed to 'Balanced' as I was playing around with the website.

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Mar 3 2022, 10:53 AM)
KDI save only pays 3% per annum prorate. Depending if you have like Amanah Saham (even not the Bumiputra), will still give higher rates. Hellogold can give goo returns too, if you are the patient type.
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🤔 It depends on goals, personally I don't see them as comparible products, as I would say that KDI save should not be used like Amanah Saham/Hellogold where it's more of a long term, low risk place to park wealth (important for super conservative investors or investors who have goals that cannot take volatility/price drops, like older investors with no time leeway to handle market volatility or investors who are saving for things like child education).

KDI Save/Versa/GO+ etc. are more geared towards short term cash keeping, like emergency funds parking where you'd want to access + store cash for very short term and require the liquidity, and you'd want to see the interest earned get credited within months/weeks/days vs ASM's yearly dividends and Hellogold's gradual price appreciation.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 3 2022, 12:11 PM)
🤔 It depends on goals, personally I don't see them as comparible products, as I would say that KDI save should not be used like Amanah Saham/Hellogold where it's more of a long term, low risk place to park wealth (important for super conservative investors or investors who have goals that cannot take volatility/price drops, like older investors with no time leeway to handle market volatility or investors who are saving for things like child education).

KDI Save/Versa/GO+ etc. are more geared towards short term cash keeping, like emergency funds parking where you'd want to access + store cash for very short term and require the liquidity, and you'd want to see the interest earned get credited within months/weeks/days vs ASM's yearly dividends and Hellogold's gradual price appreciation.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Mar 3 2022, 10:53 AM)
Same here. I just contacted them. A lot of people have requested this, but they are still not providing it. There are few competitors in ETF's especially by banking sector. They too breakdown the details of where your money is deposited if you ask them details not provided in the brochure.

KDI save only pays 3% per annum prorate. Depending if you have like Amanah Saham (even not the Bumiputra), will still give higher rates. Hellogold can give goo returns too, if you are the patient type.
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hellogold selling fee gap to huge.
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will kdi save return commit and add to your current value. I dont think the return is added into your existing investment
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will kdi save return commit and add to your current value. I dont think the return is added into your existing investment
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- Edit - I stand corrected, seems like it's based on initial investment.

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 3 2022, 02:58 PM)
hellogold selling fee gap to huge.
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I noticed that. I just put one time. Only using the app for the gold chart actually since easier to use compared to others. Not sure where/which market they use for their gold tracker.
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will kdi save return commit and add to your current value. I dont think the return is added into your existing investment
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Seem like only base on deposit amount & no compound interest as per verified.

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any referrals? pm thanks [got it, thanks!]

looking to enjoy that 3% since even my trusty SC PSA doesn't give that much interest anymore lol.

so far what are the thoughts on their offerings? i saw many here complained about transparency, but i'm still thinking of taking advantage of the first RM3k managed for free if the portfolios offered looks reasonable and such.

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QUOTE(x3Kai @ Mar 3 2022, 03:49 PM)
any referrals? pm thanks

looking to enjoy that 3% since even my trusty SC PSA doesn't give that much interest anymore lol.

so far what are the thoughts on their offerings? i saw many here complained about transparency, but i'm still thinking of taking advantage of the first RM3k managed for free if the portfolios offered looks reasonable and such.
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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 3 2022, 03:25 PM)
Seem like only base on deposit amount & no compound interest as per verified.

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might need to perform rotation then
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what do u mean rotation? dont tell me withdraw all and transfer back again.
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what do u mean rotation? dont tell me withdraw all and transfer back again.
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QUOTE(x3Kai @ Mar 3 2022, 03:49 PM)
any referrals? pm thanks [got it, thanks!]

looking to enjoy that 3% since even my trusty SC PSA doesn't give that much interest anymore lol.

so far what are the thoughts on their offerings? i saw many here complained about transparency, but i'm still thinking of taking advantage of the first RM3k managed for free if the portfolios offered looks reasonable and such.
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I'm trying it myself to see the outcome. So far happy with their ETF choices (those allocated - and not the blank ones).
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what do u mean rotation? dont tell me withdraw all and transfer back again.
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I think should be once accumulate a certain return amount which you prefer can be withdraw & re-deposit again otherwise can set it by monthly/quarterly in order to roll it bigger.
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tried digging back this thread but can't find my answer. "based on placement amt" is referring to the 3% promo rate right? for normal rates, the money will still be added back in

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QUOTE(shawnme @ Mar 3 2022, 11:11 AM)
Hi, for those who would like to refer. icon_rolleyes.gif

Started out with 'Conservative', then changed to 'Balanced' as I was playing around with the website.

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Sorry, just checking, how do you change? from conservative to balanced portfolio?
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Sorry, just checking, how do you change? from conservative to balanced portfolio?
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Sorry, just checking, how do you change? from conservative to balanced portfolio?
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I did it via website.

Go to :

My Accounts > My Profile > Edit Risk Profile

Accidentally stumbled onto it. I did it without selling anything, and despite after the deposit succeeded as I was just playing around without matter the consequences.
If i remember correctly, it took a few days before it actually changed.

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QUOTE(shawnme @ Mar 3 2022, 04:55 PM)
I did it via website.

Go to :

My Accounts > My Profile > Edit Risk Profile

Accidentally stumbled onto it. I did it without selling anything, and despite after the deposit succeeded as I was just playing around without matter the consequences.
If i remember correctly, it took a few days before it actually changed.

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*Disclaimer : I searched high and low, but couldn't find any correspondence to prove my claim. I just remember the steps, but what happens during/after change or cost incurred, I am not sure. I didn't notice any losses though. icon_rolleyes.gif
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yea should be this method.. the AI will help you rebalance it.
Just that when changing profile risk cannot put in new funds until it is complete. Usually take a few days.
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Guys, do you think KDI Invest is much better than SA? Need your opinion as SA returns have been disappointing..
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Guys, do you think KDI Invest is much better than SA? Need your opinion as SA returns have been disappointing..
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For me I don't even bother with either of them. You can DIY buy Qqq or Voo. Better returns than either one and cheaper over long term.
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I think SA ESG and KDI have similar performance. However, management fee in KDI is cheaper overall so is best to try out KDI for once. but i have to warn you, right now markets are dropping due to ukraine invasion so don't expect immediate positive returns
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yea... KDI aggressive "can fight" with Stashaway ESG
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if you refer my chart here... both SA and KDI will underperform S&P500 due to additions of bonds etc

for SA classic, unfortunately you need to decide if you can trust KWEB. i cannot answer that for you

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Guys, do you think KDI Invest is much better than SA? Need your opinion as SA returns have been disappointing..
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KDI Invest is better if you don’t know / don’t want to DIY invest via IBKR.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2022, 09:54 PM)
I assumed the 4 85%p.a interest is placed about 3-4 years ago.

Wow that's good.
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yeah and u only get that from unbranded bank no PIDM etc, but who cares......

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 3 2022, 02:59 PM)
will kdi save return commit and add to your current value. I dont think the return is added into your existing investment
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- Edit - I stand corrected, seems like it's based on initial investment.
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Seem like only base on deposit amount & no compound interest as per verified.

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seems like it i see daily RM16.44 wont increase
i think no need the so called rotation ?WD all put back.
Just WD the interest enough when reach hundreds or thousand, need test and see it works.
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Yes...withdraw for the returns will do...don't need to bother the original placement
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Would this make a difference? Other than >RM 200k
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Yes...withdraw for the returns will do...don't need to bother the original placement
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if we withdraw returna amount and deposit again, count as initial placement/new fund?
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if we withdraw returna amount and deposit again, count as initial placement/new fund?
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i supposed so....
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Yeah, Over 1 year +, SA sucks. I'd put some money to test there. Was planning to test for 3 years. Now i am not sure want to put that long.

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if we withdraw returna amount and deposit again, count as initial placement/new fund?
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Guys, latest update :

Returns for KDI Save is base compounded interest

We can ignore to withdraw the returns right now rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 4 2022, 09:50 AM)
Guys, latest update :

Returns for KDI Save is base compounded interest

We can ignore to withdraw the returns right now  rclxms.gif

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Great, it is so much better, save the hassle. and not to forget these are compounded on daily basis. drool.gif
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QUOTE(c64 @ Mar 4 2022, 09:42 AM)
Yeah, Over 1 year +, SA sucks. I'd put some money to test there. Was planning to test for 3 years. Now i am not sure want to put that long.
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likely due to KWEB.. especially for the higher risk in the General Investing Portfolio, since allocation for KWEB there will be even more.

KWEB been going down since Feb 2021, from 102 down to today 30+ USD a share:

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This is the main reason why I stay away from Stashaway. Their portfolio manager keep very gungho on this ETF.

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what goes down will go up, usually
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some just cannot swallow the volatility, or some may have deemed to got trapped at the higher floors.
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what goes down will go up, usually
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with emperor Xi as president.. hard to say. Just read what he did to deter investor's confidence.. especially in the tech sector in China.
KWEB ETF is all about tech.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 4 2022, 10:41 AM)
likely due to KWEB.. especially for the higher risk in the General Investing Portfolio, since allocation for KWEB there will be even more.

KWEB been going down since Feb 2021, from 102 down to today 30+ USD a share:

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This is the main reason why I stay away from Stashaway. Their portfolio manager keep very gungho on this ETF.
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Nice info. Thanks, will keep this in mind.
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Hand itchy and found something interesting....

Yesterday did a additional deposit of 20k into KDI Save, and I selected my cc as payment, the transaction rejected after keyin OTP

Just now found that there's extra 20k in my personal bank savings account registered with KDI, stated refund from PACIFIC TRUSTEES BERHAD
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 4 2022, 04:50 PM)
Hand itchy and found something interesting....

Yesterday did a additional deposit of 20k into KDI Save, and I selected my cc as payment, the transaction rejected after keyin OTP

Just now found that there's extra 20k in my personal bank savings account registered with KDI, stated refund from PACIFIC TRUSTEES BERHAD
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umm..? so your CC didt charged you? mayb need to wait few days for the settlement.
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umm..? so your CC didt charged you? mayb need to wait few days for the settlement.
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 4 2022, 04:50 PM)
Hand itchy and found something interesting....

Yesterday did a additional deposit of 20k into KDI Save, and I selected my cc as payment, the transaction rejected after keyin OTP

Just now found that there's extra 20k in my personal bank savings account registered with KDI, stated refund from PACIFIC TRUSTEES BERHAD
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Shouldn't they refund to your card...

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 4 2022, 04:50 PM)
Hand itchy and found something interesting....

Yesterday did a additional deposit of 20k into KDI Save, and I selected my cc as payment, the transaction rejected after keyin OTP

Just now found that there's extra 20k in my personal bank savings account registered with KDI, stated refund from PACIFIC TRUSTEES BERHAD
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yep, their FPX registration with PayNEt didnt disable "credit card", which is why it was shown. sweat.gif

they are "working" on it to disable it.

QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 4 2022, 05:20 PM)
Shouldn't they refund to your card...
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nope, they cant refund back to card. it seems easier to just refund to the registered savings account with KDI.

p/s: any cc that give rewards for FPX? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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p/s: any cc that give rewards for FPX?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 4 2022, 04:50 PM)
Hand itchy and found something interesting....

Yesterday did a additional deposit of 20k into KDI Save, and I selected my cc as payment, the transaction rejected after keyin OTP

Just now found that there's extra 20k in my personal bank savings account registered with KDI, stated refund from PACIFIC TRUSTEES BERHAD
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rich liao....beware of acc frozen like cimb case...lol
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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 4 2022, 09:50 AM)
Guys, latest update :

Returns for KDI Save is base compounded interest

We can ignore to withdraw the returns right now  rclxms.gif

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Wait, this means what? Is it daily compounded then?
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Wait, this means what? Is it daily compounded then?
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Assume you put in 100k in KDI Save

If it's compounded daily, interest earn 1st day will be RM 8.2191, 2nd day will be RM 8.2198.....

If it's not compounded daily, interest earn daily will be RM 8.2191

Guys! That's RM 0.0007 of difference daily provided you put in 100k, do we need to waste so much time discuss on this?

Can we move on?

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Yeah, Over 1 year +, SA sucks. I'd put some money to test there. Was planning to test for 3 years. Now i am not sure want to put that long.
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Forget about SA this coming year doh.gif

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 4 2022, 10:41 AM)
likely due to KWEB.. especially for the higher risk in the General Investing Portfolio, since allocation for KWEB there will be even more.

KWEB been going down since Feb 2021, from 102 down to today 30+ USD a share:

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This is the main reason why I stay away from Stashaway. Their portfolio manager keep very gungho on this ETF.
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Gonna drop soon below at all time low anytime this year doh.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 4 2022, 08:38 PM)
Assume you put in 100k in KDI Save

If it's compounded daily, interest earn 1st day will be RM 8.2191, 2nd day will be RM 8.2198.....

If it's not compounded daily, interest earn daily will be RM 8.2191

Guys! That's RM 0.0007 of difference daily provided you put in 100k, do we need to waste so much time discuss on this?

Can we move on?
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Agree. Most important is the main deposit that goes into KDI Save. Farhana already confirm it's compounded also. Make sense else where the money gonna sit in? For KDI invest Faq also they got mention all dividends are auto invested into the Invest portfolio for our convenience.

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Forget about SA this coming year  doh.gif
Gonna drop soon below at all time low anytime this year  doh.gif
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I think we have to look at this in a bigger perspective.

Imagine KDI launch last year, and SA just launch this month, I believe KDI will be condemn at this moment. Why? Very simple, the market last year is on high side.

All investment associate with risk, understand it before you jump in. Be ready to average down, KDI or SA are investing in ETF, which is a basket of good underlying.

Whatever go down will recover, whatever go up will have retracement, but crash to crash, market always recover and trending higher
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 5 2022, 08:48 AM)
I think we have to look at this in a bigger perspective.

Imagine KDI launch last year, and SA just launch this month, I believe KDI will be condemn at this moment. Why? Very simple, the market last year is on high side.

All investment associate with risk, understand it before you jump in. Be ready to average down, KDI or SA are investing in ETF, which is a basket of good underlying.

Whatever go down will recover, whatever go up will have retracement, but crash to crash, market always recover and trending higher
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Compare both KDI Invest vs Stashaway list of ETFs. That is how I come to conclusion KDI is better. Stashaway made a mistake of choosing kweb. Many people lost money coz of it. Few days ago broke new low reaching 30 usd. Earlier was 32 usd.

Not sure how much KWEB or China paid them to invest in it. Earlier they were doing well before introduction of KWEB etf.
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Of course CC charged me, exactly 20k, no more no less
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Shouldn't they refund to your card...
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what if i do this, and immediately call cc company to reverse trx and cancel card?
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the bank aint stupid, they will trace the money from the card - > KDI -> your saving acc.
you can cancel the card, but cant dispute the statement amount as it indeed goes into your acc.
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what if i do this, and immediately call cc company to reverse trx and cancel card?
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Please try it yourself and update us the outcome ya, good luck

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Compare both KDI Invest vs Stashaway list of ETFs. That is how I come to conclusion KDI is better. Stashaway made a mistake of choosing kweb. Many people lost money coz of it. Few days ago broke new low reaching 30 usd. Earlier was 32 usd.

Not sure how much KWEB or China paid them to invest in it. Earlier they were doing well before introduction of KWEB etf.
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Your conclusion is base on such short span of period comparison as KDI just launch not more than a month, do you think it's fair?
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Please try it yourself and update us the outcome ya, good luck
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 5 2022, 11:03 AM)
Your conclusion is base on such short span of period comparison as KDI just launch not more than a month, do you think it's fair?
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You can search the history of those ETFs KDI chose. Although past history does not guarantee future returns.. Their performance is better than Stashaway's KWEB.

QQQ, SPX are confirmed good selections. Anyhow don't wanna debate on this any longer. We'll see the results here in a few years time.
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 5 2022, 08:48 AM)
I think we have to look at this in a bigger perspective.

Imagine KDI launch last year, and SA just launch this month, I believe KDI will be condemn at this moment. Why? Very simple, the market last year is on high side.

All investment associate with risk, understand it before you jump in. Be ready to average down, KDI or SA are investing in ETF, which is a basket of good underlying.

Whatever go down will recover, whatever go up will have retracement, but crash to crash, market always recover and trending higher
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SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it

Even now 5years it is dismal for 36% SRI returns while taking a whole a lot of risk doh.gif

A lot has lost now since KWEB gonna return all time anything me this year doh.gif

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 5 2022, 09:16 AM)
Compare both KDI Invest vs Stashaway list of ETFs. That is how I come to conclusion KDI is better. Stashaway made a mistake of choosing kweb. Many people lost money coz of it. Few days ago broke new low reaching 30 usd. Earlier was 32 usd.

Not sure how much KWEB or China paid them to invest in it. Earlier they were doing well before introduction of KWEB etf.
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KDI pool ETFs are far superior than SA because only rotate on SPDR for US sectors

KDI if they improve and list out the pool of ETFs like MyTheo then they will be strong contender

Only thing now they must offer multi portfolio
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*SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it....

does he really know that SA started with KWEB in some of the port since inception of the port?
only for 30% SRI port had KWEB allocation doubled in July 2021
- - - - Edited after info from xander
does he really know that prior to FEB 2021,.....SA port with KWEB had been doing well?

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*SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it....

does he really know that SA started with KWEB in some of the port since inception of the port?
only for 30% SRI port had KWEB allocation doubled in July 2021
does he really know that prior to FEB 2021,.....SA port with KWEB had been doing well?
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SA started with XLK before moving to KWEB during Covid to take advantage of China economy boom of that year doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

- [XLK] Global Technology: Exited May 2020 exercise. No holdings since then. They claimed that the whole sector is massively overpriced at that point in time in their webinars. It was less than 100 in May 2020, and its above 150 now. That’s a whopping 60% of potential gains totally missed out.

- [KWEB] China Technology: Entered May 2020 exercise, no change for this round of re-optimization. Yes, Stashaway chose KWEB over XLK. No surprise why new Stashaway consumers are sitting on losses, especially those that started since the start of this year who tanked through the 40% losses or this. Looking at the new wave of crackdown launched by China recently with no end in sight, I’m extremely alarmed this is still part of the portfolio.
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that is too coherent a sentence coming from you. link back to the original source la https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/critical-rev...hi-cheng-ngooi/

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anyway won't comment much as this is a KDI thread

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 5 2022, 07:31 PM)
SA started with XLK before moving to KWEB during Covid to take advantage of China economy boom of that year  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

- [XLK] Global Technology: Exited May 2020 exercise. No holdings since then. They claimed that the whole sector is massively overpriced at that point in time in their webinars. It was less than 100 in May 2020, and its above 150 now. That’s a whopping 60% of potential gains totally missed out.

- [KWEB] China Technology: Entered May 2020 exercise, no change for this round of re-optimization. Yes, Stashaway chose KWEB over XLK. No surprise why new Stashaway consumers are sitting on losses, especially those that started since the start of this year who tanked through the 40% losses or this. Looking at the new wave of crackdown launched by China recently with no end in sight, I’m extremely alarmed this is still part of the portfolio.
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so it is still not "SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it"....for from May 2020 till Feb 2021....how did it performed? so your statement is NOT true.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

long gone...after Xi actions...not about SA selection of KWEB....

there is a different reasons for "long gone"....

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 5 2022, 07:52 PM)
so it is still not "SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it"....for from May 2020 till Feb 2021....how did it performed? so your statement is NOT true....  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

long gone...after Xi actions...not about SA selection of KWEB....

there is a different reasons for "long gone"....
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Try’s comparing instead if the reopt doesn’t even happen those who are pioneers would be still green during that period doh.gif because XLK would have Carrie day more gains than KWEB doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 5 2022, 08:04 PM)
Try’s comparing instead if the reopt doesn’t even happen those who are pioneers would be still green during that period  doh.gif because XLK would have Carrie day more gains than KWEB  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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So in the end it is still not "SA is long gone once they intro KWEB into it".... As posted earlier..
But would hv been better if reopt was not made in May 2020..

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 5 2022, 07:31 PM)
SA started with XLK before moving to KWEB during Covid to take advantage of China economy boom of that year  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

- [XLK] Global Technology: Exited May 2020 exercise. No holdings since then. They claimed that the whole sector is massively overpriced at that point in time in their webinars. It was less than 100 in May 2020, and its above 150 now. That’s a whopping 60% of potential gains totally missed out.

- [KWEB] China Technology: Entered May 2020 exercise, no change for this round of re-optimization. Yes, Stashaway chose KWEB over XLK. No surprise why new Stashaway consumers are sitting on losses, especially those that started since the start of this year who tanked through the 40% losses or this. Looking at the new wave of crackdown launched by China recently with no end in sight, I’m extremely alarmed this is still part of the portfolio.
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Agree. XLK is a much better option. KWEB not sure when can go up is like keep sea of red no matter how well general stock market is performing.

Really dumb for Stashaway to switch from XLK to KWEB. If they experiment see not working should quickly switch back to XLK or some better ETF la. Keep die die say China tech etf is good. All over the news we can see what’s happening.

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 5 2022, 10:39 PM)
Agree. XLK is a much better option. KWEB not sure when can go up is like keep sea of red no matter how well general stock market is performing.

Really dumb for Stashaway to switch from XLK to KWEB. If they experiment see not working should quickly switch back to XLK or some better ETF la. Keep die die say China tech etf is good. All over the news we can see what’s happening.
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You cant blame them. It happen before Beijing crackdown. How were to know crackdown haven't stop?
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No lah, limit 3% upto 200 only, but for parking more i still ok ,
highest in the money market, think Versa also dont pay 2.25%
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 5 2022, 10:39 PM)
Agree. XLK is a much better option. KWEB not sure when can go up is like keep sea of red no matter how well general stock market is performing.

Really dumb for Stashaway to switch from XLK to KWEB. If they experiment see not working should quickly switch back to XLK or some better ETF la. Keep die die say China tech etf is good. All over the news we can see what’s happening.
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If SA stick to their pioneer philosophy by rotating based on SPDR sectors and geographical it would have been green now still

If you seen the 5 years graph they displaying it is worrying that they might even cut loss at the next reopt with KWEB

I rather have SA buy into QQQ instead of XLK doh.gif

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Thanks for your answer
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KDI way better than Versa and Simple forget about those rates are proj3cted and not guaranteed doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 5 2022, 11:16 PM)
If SA stick to their pioneer philosophy by rotating based on SPDR sectors and geographical it would have been green now still

If you seen the 5 years graph they displaying it is worrying that they might even cut loss at the next reopt with KWEB

I rather have SA buy into QQQ instead of XLK  doh.gif
KDI way better than Versa and Simple forget about those rates are proj3cted and not guaranteed  doh.gif
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Hmm....maybe I will throw my SA testing fund into KDI Invest All-in...
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I open account yesterday afternoon but until now it's still not approve. Is it coz of weekends?
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I open account yesterday afternoon but until now it's still not approve. Is it coz of weekends?
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but i am getting 5th account...will be there still no worry
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 26 2022, 08:51 PM)
yeah right tested cut off is 11am.

why u used 360 days as 1 year?
No lah, limit 3% upto 200 only, but for parking more i still ok ,
highest in the money market, think Versa also dont pay 2.25%
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you would be surprised i have 4.85% FD
Money invested already is expected to earn daily interest, so yes we should get interest daily now onwards including PH.

I just checked and saw interest updated, surprised Sat evening also updated...

KDI  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif support, 1 a m opening more accounts.....
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Invested in Conservative portfolio for past 1 week for testing, already down 1.4%
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yep, their FPX registration with PayNEt didnt disable "credit card", which is why it was shown.  sweat.gif

they are "working" on it to disable it.
nope, they cant refund back to card. it seems easier to just refund to the registered savings account with KDI.

p/s: any cc that give rewards for FPX?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Fuhh...keep doing and paying back...wah lau. Profit!

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Why need to open so many KDI accounts, bro?
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Can open multiple accounts? Need to use different phone no and e-mails?
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Invested in Conservative portfolio for past 1 week for testing, already down 1.4%
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Fuhh...keep doing and paying back...wah lau. Profit!
Can open multiple accounts? Need to use different phone no and e-mails?
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Who profit?

Even you have multiple phone no and email, also cannot open multiple account.

Even if you borrow IC, still need their selfie.

Even you got other's selfie, still need to have access to their single name banking account.
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Hmm....maybe I will throw my SA testing fund into KDI Invest All-in...
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Check the pool of ETFs of KDI before you go ahead

For inflation hedging better off put in MyTheo

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I open account yesterday afternoon but until now it's still not approve. Is it coz of weekends?
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Yes opening approval only done on working day

QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 6 2022, 01:35 PM)
Though AI work all day long, but I believe they still need human to do the back end verification
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Back end verification is only done for deposit and withdrawal when AI does all the allocation, buy, sell and rebalancing

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Why need to open so many KDI accounts, bro?
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mother, father, mother in law, father in law, brother, sister, brother in law, sister in law, sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters. u can have multiple accounts. this is popular strategy in lowyat.

*forgot add on, 1st wife, 2nd wife, 3rd wife, 4th wife, unlimited mistress

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For inflation hedging better off put in MyTheo

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Fees alone scary for small fry investors:
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/mytheo-explain...vesting-section

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Fees alone scary for small fry investors:
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/mytheo-explain...vesting-section
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Sometimes you have to pay to gain doh.gif

Unlike SA a lot paying fees yet still negative doh.gif
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Fees alone scary for small fry investors:
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:39 AM)
Sometimes you have to pay to gain  doh.gif

Unlike SA a lot paying fees yet still negative  doh.gif
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So in event of market collapse, we still need to bear that 1% fee on top of losses?
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So in event of market collapse, we still need to bear that 1% fee on top of losses?
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That's the price of having a manager, market goes up, down, sideways, you will be paying them regardless.

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So in event of market collapse, we still need to bear that 1% fee on top of losses?
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WHether you in SA KDI or MyTheo irregardless markets up or down you still have to pay the fees doh.gif

If you scared then by all means put your money in gold FD or MMF then doh.gif
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nice to see a thread on KDI!
Personally I'll be using it mainly for their MMF - KDI Save, that sweet 3%.

Then maybe test the waters on KDI Invest, keeping my AUM there below RM3K for their zero fees.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 7 2022, 09:05 AM)
WHether you in SA KDI or MyTheo irregardless markets up or down you still have to pay the fees  doh.gif

If you scared then by all means put your money in gold FD or MMF then  doh.gif
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If small fees fair lah...you open shop, hire Bangala runs for you, regardless your shop makes money or not, still need to pay Bangala right?

But the fees have to be small lah, especially for small fry investors like me.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 7 2022, 09:05 AM)
WHether you in SA KDI or MyTheo irregardless markets up or down you still have to pay the fees  doh.gif

If you scared then by all means put your money in gold FD or MMF then  doh.gif
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ok will give mytheo a try also for their income and inflation hedge portfolio.
problem now is can't login. walaowe.. doh.gif

edit: ok can login but loading pages still funky. So far their app load performance is the worst. Should start doing some maintenance doh.gif

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 7 2022, 08:53 AM)
That's the price of having a manager, market goes up, down, sideways, you will be paying them regardless.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 7 2022, 09:05 AM)
WHether you in SA KDI or MyTheo irregardless markets up or down you still have to pay the fees  doh.gif

If you scared then by all means put your money in gold FD or MMF then  doh.gif
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Back then in 2020, I've bought Maybank, CIMB, PBB, HLFG, RHB stocks myself, and they are now all 20~40% profit,
seems like I am doing a better job than the managers.

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Mar 7 2022, 10:16 AM)
Back then in 2020, I've bought Maybank, CIMB, PBB, HLFG, RHB stocks myself, and they are now all 20~40% profit,
seems like I am doing a better job than the managers.

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no wrong buying Bursa stocks. I have some there too. But remember to diversify.

Also note that MYR has dropped many times in the past due to our political issues. Hence why many people prefer to invest overseas to protect the value of their MYR. Even Singaporeans like to buy ETFs like VWRA, SWRD, EIMI (even though their SGD so strong). Just go to r/singaporefi to read how they invest.

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QUOTE(c64 @ Mar 7 2022, 09:42 AM)
If small fees fair lah...you open shop, hire Bangala runs for you, regardless your shop makes money or not, still need to pay Bangala right?

But the fees have to be small lah, especially for small fry investors like me.
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THat’s why you pay more for better quality workers otherwise how can you make money doh.gif

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 7 2022, 10:09 AM)
ok will give mytheo a try also for their income and inflation hedge portfolio.
problem now is can't login. walaowe..  doh.gif
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Income portfolio you better off buying DIY as it would cheaper unless you are putting small amount because the returns are dismal compared to MMF rates

At the moment inflation hedge is running hot with DBB and DBO is ATH that’s why you need to be aware because YTD is at 5% gain so you need to slowly DCA on the dips

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just do a testing to withdrawal….

withdraw same sum from both KDI save and KDI invest on 2/3

Already received fund 3/3 in my bank acc next day for KDI save

But I only get refund on 7/3 for money parked under KDI invest and it is not exact amount I requested earlier …. slightly less than my I requested


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QUOTE(bcombat @ Mar 8 2022, 09:36 AM)
just do a testing to withdrawal….

withdraw same sum from both KDI save and KDI invest on 2/3

Already received fund 3/3 in my bank acc next day for KDI save

But I only get refund on 7/3 for money parked under KDI invest and it is not exact amount I requested earlier …. slightly less than my I requested
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Is the return not 8.21 with 3% (100,000x0.03/365)? How is it 30.39? Need sifu enlighten me icon_question.gif

Edit: unless it is not "daily return", but "total return"?

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Another problem with KDI Invest.
Gonna withdraw my funds. Unacceptable error with their app since I can’t change the risk once money is in.

Check both your portfolio and profile, they could end up being different:


user posted image


user posted image

When I first registered only put aggressive growth . Then after that I changed to conservative before funds entered. Still till today it chose this. So means my funds are in aggressive growth without my consent? Hence why I’m thinking why allocated 34.61% to equity? Doesn’t make sense. Only found out today.

Does this look like conservative portfolio? Not at all:

user posted image

Gonna wait they iron this out first. Tested out MYTHEO so far much better than their interface. Or can consider Stashaway also. Right now KDI invest still a mess.

Edit: already sent an email to digitalinvesting@kenanga.com.my with all the screenshots.

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so this step doesn't work?
QUOTE(shawnme @ Mar 3 2022, 04:55 PM)
Accidentally stumbled onto it. I did it without selling anything, and despite after the deposit succeeded as I was just playing around without matter the consequences.
If i remember correctly, it took a few days before it actually changed.
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doesn't seem to be aggressive growth though. check back the posts

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Mar 8 2022, 02:05 PM)
Is the return not 8.21 with 3% (100,000x0.03/365)? How is it 30.39? Need sifu enlighten me  icon_question.gif

Edit: unless it is not "daily return", but "total return"?
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Your are right, the daily return is RM 8.21

RM 30.39 is total return since day one of placement

And for your info, RM 100,000 build up over few days, not within the same day ya
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Thinking if i should switch from stashaway simple of KDI save.
What other benefits does KDI offer other than 3% vs 2.4%?
Next year onwards after promo period finishes, it will go to 2.25%?
Any fees on the savings account?
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 8 2022, 04:08 PM)
Thinking if i should switch from stashaway simple of KDI save.
What other benefits does KDI offer other than 3% vs 2.4%?
Next year onwards after promo period finishes, it will go to 2.25%?
Any fees on the savings account?
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KDI Save great to use.. 3% earned on daily basis. Fast deposit and withdrawal also.
Next year nobody knows what rate they will offer.. need to be Oracle only can know tongue.gif
No fees.. they profit by rolling your money around liao. More money u put in in some ways they can earn. Win- win for both sides.

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Tried KDI Save so far so good with daily return. Then decided to try out KDI Invest with balance portfolio few days back, currently down -2.98% unsure.gif
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QUOTE(BooYa @ Mar 8 2022, 04:22 PM)
Tried KDI Save so far so good with daily return. Then decided to try out KDI Invest with balance portfolio few days back, currently down -2.98%  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Mar 8 2022, 04:08 PM)
Thinking if i should switch from stashaway simple of KDI save.
What other benefits does KDI offer other than 3% vs 2.4%?
Next year onwards after promo period finishes, it will go to 2.25%?
Any fees on the savings account?
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KDI Save 3%pa guarantee return is for up to RM 200k deposit and till year end

SA Simple 2.4%pa is PROJECTED return

RM 100k deposit of SA Simple and KDI Save, interest difference will be RM 1.64/day

If you have more than 200k, then park 200k in KDI Save, the rest in SA Simple 2.4%
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 8 2022, 03:09 PM)
Another problem with KDI Invest.
Gonna withdraw my funds. Unacceptable error with their app since I can’t change the risk once money is in.

Check both your portfolio and profile, they could end up being different:
user posted image
user posted image

When I first registered only put aggressive growth . Then after that I changed to conservative before funds entered. Still till today it chose this. So means my funds are in aggressive growth without my consent? Hence why I’m thinking why allocated 34.61% to equity? Doesn’t make sense. Only found out today.

Does this look like conservative portfolio? Not at all:

user posted image

Gonna wait they iron this out first. Tested out MYTHEO so far much better than their interface. Or can consider Stashaway also. Right now KDI invest still a mess.

Edit: already sent an email to digitalinvesting@kenanga.com.my with all the screenshots.
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34% equities is not aggressive.

That's less than EPF.

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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 8 2022, 03:26 PM)
Your are right, the daily return is RM 8.21

RM 30.39 is total return since day one of placement

And for your info, RM 100,000 build up over few days, not within the same day ya
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 8 2022, 03:09 PM)
Another problem with KDI Invest.
Gonna withdraw my funds. Unacceptable error with their app since I can’t change the risk once money is in.

Check both your portfolio and profile, they could end up being different:
user posted image
user posted imageh

When I first registered only put aggressive growth . Then after that I changed to conservative before funds entered. Still till today it chose this. So means my funds are in aggressive growth without my consent? Hence why I’m thinking why allocated 34.61% to equity? Doesn’t make sense. Only found out today.

Does this look like conservative portfolio? Not at all:

user posted image

Gonna wait they iron this out first. Tested out MYTHEO so far much better than their interface. Or can consider Stashaway also. Right now KDI invest still a mess.

Edit: already sent an email to digitalinvesting@kenanga.com.my with all the screenshots.
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Downsides of kDI still no multi portfolios and switching

KDI invest still a gamble because everything stillness broken except their AI asset allocations doh.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 8 2022, 04:11 PM)
KDI Save great to use.. 3% earned on daily basis. Fast deposit and withdrawal also.
Next year nobody knows what rate they will offer.. need to be Oracle only can know  tongue.gif
No fees.. they profit by rolling your money around liao. More money u put in in some ways they can earn. Win- win for both sides.
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true. why worry next year.
sound silly. people earned 3% but people go and pit in 2.4%....lol
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i put in 500 for kdi invest. past few days can see profit and loss. now value 486. return zero. will wait few days, may be due to i change balance to growth and ai doing adjustment
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 8 2022, 03:14 PM)
so this step doesn't work?

doesn't seem to be aggressive growth though. check back the posts
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Well, it did work for me. I started off conservative, now its balanced. I saw this in the FAQ if you're interested. Again, just my experience.

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Can I switch my risk profile for KDI Invest and how to make the switch?

Yes, you are able to change your risk profile for your KDI Invest account.

If you do not have any existing investment or have no balance inside your KDI Invest account, then you will be able to immediately make the change. Please follow the steps below to make the change:
Login to KDI > Click on “My Account” > Click on “My Profile” > Click on “Edit Risk Profile” > Select your new risk profile > Click on “Confirm” button. Once you have clicked on the confirm button, your updated risk profile will be displayed on the “My Profile” page and a notification email would be sent to your registered email address. You will also be able to immediately see a pop-up message confirming the risk profile change.

However, if you have an existing investment amount in your KDI Invest account, you may follow the steps below:
Login to KDI > Click on “My Account” > Click on “My Profile” > Click on “Edit Risk Profile” > Select your new risk profile > Click on “Confirm” button.

Once you have clicked on the “Confirm” button, there will be a pop message to “Confirm” or “Cancel” the newly selected risk profile as well as a note to inform you that the existing amount will be fully withdrawn so that it can be invested into your new portfolio with the newly chosen risk profile. This process will take up to 7 working days to be completed.

Upon completion, the new risk profile will be reflected on the “My Profile” page and a notification email confirming the change will be sent to your registered email address. You will also be able to see a pop-up message confirming the risk profile change upon your next login after the completion is done.
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Mar 8 2022, 06:35 PM)
true. why worry next year.
sound silly. people earned 3% but people go and pit in 2.4%....lol
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It's good to have 3% compare to FD and others, will keep maintain until end of this year and let see what the rate for coming year brows.gif
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FAQ

Can I withdraw to a different bank account from the one I initially deposited?
Yes, you may withdraw from a different bank account as long as the bank account holder’s name is solely under your name.
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"from" is a typo right?

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Mar 9 2022, 08:47 AM)
"from" is a typo right?
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LOL...really not much focus on this...you may go correct them revise "TO" rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 9 2022, 08:39 AM)
It's good to have 3% compare to FD and others, will keep maintain until end of this year and let see what the rate for coming year  brows.gif
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3% is just a promo rate. Don't expect 3% again next year.
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 8 2022, 05:28 PM)
34% equities is not aggressive.

That's less than EPF.
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It is a lot. Compare to MyTheo or Stashaway they don't allocate so much for conservative portfolios. The most 5-10%.
Aggressive stocks/ETF I am managing it myself via IBKR. Don't need another similar thing at KDI Invest.


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KDI Invest - Risk profile Growth.
Put 4k test test lose rm200 to date.
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KDI Invest - Risk profile Growth.
Put 4k test test lose rm200 to date.
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i only put minimal 250 bucks, lately US bear market is scary
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KDI Invest - Risk profile Growth.
Put 4k test test lose rm200 to date.
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Why not just test for below 3k to waive for the fees as well hmm.gif
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i only put minimal 250 bucks, lately US bear market is scary
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Why not just test for below 3k to waive for the fees as well  hmm.gif
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After i put only know the 3k fee 🥲
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Bear market is good time to buy. Fortunes are made in bear market.
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DCA huh? rclxub.gif
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First time invest in MMF. Fund reflected on account takes so slow. Wanna test withdraw before dumping all remaining fund in, but afraid it gonna drag until next week? Should I just deposit first? bruce.gif
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DCA huh?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Mar 9 2022, 12:55 PM)
First time invest in MMF. Fund reflected on account takes so slow. Wanna test withdraw before dumping all remaining fund in, but afraid it gonna drag until next week? Should I just deposit first?  bruce.gif
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:33 PM)
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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it shud be reflected today if u put in before cut off, on the day after if u put in after cut off
withdrawal turn around is on the first page also, so ur 'experiment' max gonna takes 3 days i reckon


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How long does it take to process the funds?

I pumped in 50k yesterday, it says its processing until today.
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How long does it take to process the funds?

I pumped in 50k yesterday, it says its processing until today.
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 1 2022, 01:33 PM)
Deposit or withdrawal cut off is working day 11am, you will see update of same day interest or your withdrawal proceed by 430pm same day

If you make deposit or withdrawal on weekend or holiday, then it will follow upcoming working day
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what time u 'pumped' in yesterday?
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How long does it take to process the funds?

I pumped in 50k yesterday, it says its processing until today.
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I guess your 50k transaction done after 11am yesterday, which is after cut-off, so it will be still under process till 430pm today, you will get your interest for today, but not yesterday.
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 9 2022, 01:05 PM)
what time u 'pumped' in yesterday?
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 9 2022, 01:05 PM)
I guess your 50k transaction done after 11am yesterday, which is after cut-off, so it will be still under process till 430pm today, you will get your interest for today, but not yesterday.
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Ah ok.

I do during lunch time sweat.gif
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deposited yesterday night, reflected today around 4:36pm. Guess their works cover anything from 11am to the following day's 11am, and the system will reflect the change on account after 430pm?
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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Mar 9 2022, 04:41 PM)
deposited yesterday night, reflected today around 4:36pm. Guess their works cover anything from 11am to the following day's 11am, and the system will reflect the change on account after 430pm?
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processing cutoff is 11am ---- updates to us is usually between 4-5pm (deposit/profit/withdrawal)

for withdrawal, since they processed before 5pm transfer window (i assume using IBG), the expected fund receive is by 11pm, same day.... so far i've tested 1 time test withdrawal, fund received 1030pm+.

so, for withdrawal, dont expect to receive money early laugh.gif , especially when you need the fund fast/urgent... always plan +1 working day.
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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Mar 9 2022, 04:41 PM)
deposited yesterday night, reflected today around 4:36pm. Guess their works cover anything from 11am to the following day's 11am, and the system will reflect the change on account after 430pm?
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Yes, and that's applicable for working days ya

I have not tried deposit on Friday after 11am, probably Monday only process and miss out Sat and Sun interest
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Crap, I withdraw this morning slightly before 11am and received email said money has been withdrawn successfully but check bank account still not deposited yet.

Panic shit lah.... Until I read your posting here

QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 9 2022, 05:39 PM)
processing cutoff is 11am ---- updates to us is usually between 4-5pm (deposit/profit/withdrawal)

for withdrawal, since they processed before 5pm transfer window (i assume using IBG), the expected fund receive is by 11pm, same day.... so far i've tested 1 time test withdrawal, fund received 1030pm+.

so, for withdrawal, dont expect to receive money early  laugh.gif , especially when you need the fund fast/urgent... always plan +1 working day.
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hi pal, outright sharing out referrral in thread is restricted yo, please do pm seperately
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Sorry for slightly off topic, how do you delete a post? I highly doubt I am still in probation but I don't see a button for it.
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i didnt and can't delete it, somehow i felt this forum has a bot, it will auto flag out those posts with referral or referral code, i can see those 'report'
tend the posts will get deleted sometimes later

at first i thought it is human report but afterwards i reckon it is bot (if it is human then i think that gonna be one really persistent reporter whistling.gif )
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took 3 days to change risk profile for KDI invest. (Balance -> Growth)
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there's no option to select KDI SAVE during registration? it only prompted me to select KDI Invest portfolio

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there's no option to select KDI SAVE during registration? it only prompted me to select KDI Invest portfolio
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that's part of suitability assessment form (SAF) which they require to know ur risk acceptance so to recommended u suitable portfolio
no big deal after your account is opened you can just deposit into KDI save and ignore the KDI invest

just make sure u dont key in wrongly
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Mar 9 2022, 11:59 PM)
that's part of suitability assessment form (SAF) which they require to know ur risk acceptance so to recommended u suitable portfolio
no big deal after your account is opened you can just deposit into KDI save and ignore the KDI invest

just make sure u dont key in wrongly
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so, has anyone invested around RM 122,000 ? this would yield around RM 10 daily, and have you realised / withdrawn this amount daily ?

(Minimum withdrawal amount RM10.00)...
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took 3 days to change risk profile for KDI invest. (Balance -> Growth)
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Very slow compared slow to MyTheo and SA doh.gif

QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Mar 9 2022, 11:56 PM)
there's no option to select KDI SAVE during registration? it only prompted me to select KDI Invest portfolio
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Just answer the questionnaire once the account is approve don’t it will have both save and invest

When deposit make sure you select the right tab

Anyway so long you don’t touch invest and don’t deposit more than rm250 at one time won’t go wrong deposit into save rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gk1459 @ Mar 10 2022, 12:09 AM)
so, has anyone invested around RM 122,000 ? this would yield around RM 10 daily, and have you realised / withdrawn this amount daily ?

(Minimum withdrawal amount RM10.00)...
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Anyway so long you don’t touch invest and don’t deposit more than rm250 at one time won’t go wrong deposit into save  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gk1459 @ Mar 10 2022, 12:09 AM)
so, has anyone invested around RM 122,000 ? this would yield around RM 10 daily, and have you realised / withdrawn this amount daily ?

(Minimum withdrawal amount RM10.00)...
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yes you can do that but tedious.. hv to manually login and click withdraw as no auto setting.

or you can withdraw RM 300 every month...

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 10 2022, 03:17 PM)
yes you can do that but tedious.. hv to manually login and click withdraw as no auto setting.

or you can withdraw RM 300 every month...
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Yes, it quite messy to do it manually by daily basic.
Would prefer to keep inside since <200k still entitle for the promotion rate
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so, has anyone invested around RM 122,000 ? this would yield around RM 10 daily, and have you realised / withdrawn this amount daily ?

(Minimum withdrawal amount RM10.00)...
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so many money market fund apps...
bank FD too low... need park some into MMF.
may i know at this moment, MARCH...
with 50k, which platform has the highest fixed savings interest ?

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so many money market fund apps...
bank FD too low... need park some into MMF.
may i know at this moment, MARCH...
with 50k, which platform has the highest fixed savings interest ?
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I've temporary move all from Versa to KDI. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 10 2022, 04:42 PM)
Currently i think only KDI Save = 3% (With promotion rate until end of year 2022)
I've temporary move all from Versa to KDI.  rclxms.gif
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higher than PHILLIP MASTER MONEY MARKET FUND and STASHAWAY SIMPLE right ?
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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Mar 10 2022, 04:52 PM)
higher than PHILLIP MASTER MONEY MARKET FUND and STASHAWAY SIMPLE right ?
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Bro, KDI 3% pa

What's PHILLIP MASTER MONEY MARKET FUND and STASHAWAY SIMPLE?
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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 10 2022, 03:47 PM)
Yes, it quite messy to do it manually by daily basic.
Would prefer to keep inside since <200k still entitle for the promotion rate
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the question is .. have anybody tried withdraw 200k at one go? or is there a limit?
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 6 2022, 05:43 PM)
One account max 200k
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QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 6 2022, 08:54 PM)
Who profit?

Even you have multiple phone no and email, also cannot open multiple account.

Even if you borrow IC, still need their selfie.

Even you got other's selfie, still need to have access to their single name banking account.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 6 2022, 10:57 PM)
mother, father, mother in law, father in law, brother, sister, brother in law, sister in law, sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters. u can have multiple accounts. this is popular strategy in lowyat.

*forgot add on, 1st wife, 2nd wife, 3rd wife, 4th wife, unlimited mistress
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if you can control them and their bank accounts may be......

QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 10 2022, 04:42 PM)
Currently i think only KDI Save = 3% (With promotion rate until end of year 2022)
I've temporary move all from Versa to KDI.  rclxms.gif
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i believe KDI is now flush with money hopefully can handle well for us.

QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 10 2022, 10:04 PM)
the question is .. have anybody tried withdraw 200k at one go? or is there a limit?
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yeah very important question. i will test it out in early Apr.
Withdraw small amount problem would not show up.


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yeah  not simply can open..
if you can control them and their bank accounts may be......
i believe KDI is now flush with money hopefully can handle well for us.
yeah very important question. i will test it out in early Apr.
Withdraw small amount problem would not show up.
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test 100k?

to put in max is 50k per day via FPX... to take out?

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DEFinitely those are sub 2% doh.gif

QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 10 2022, 10:04 PM)
the question is .. have anybody tried withdraw 200k at one go? or is there a limit?
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No issue as long min rm100 in account otherwise full withdrawal then doh.gif
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test 100k?

to put in max is 50k per day via FPX... to take out?
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My account still pending approval. How soon is it normally approved?
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Within 48 hours

Earlier was faster as mine was approved within 2 hours
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Maybe problem is my IC pic. I snapped the pic from my monitor and not my physical IC cos my handbag was downstairs. Lazy to go take. 😁 😁 Oh well......
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If that the case will be delayed for KYC and you have to wait for KDI to contact you via email
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But, after provide new copy the process was quite fast for them to approve.
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My experience, opened account 4 days before, did everything proper, still pending. Then on the 4th day, sent them an email for the status. No reply, but received approval 1 hour later.
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My experience, opened account 4 days before, did everything proper, still pending. Then on the 4th day, sent them an email for the status. No reply, but received approval 1 hour later.
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You means all 4 accounts also having the same issue? Or just certain account? confused.gif
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You means all 4 accounts also having the same issue? Or just certain account?  confused.gif
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'4 days'

I meant that even after 4 days, it was still pending, hence I emailed them and it got approved within the hour.

Also meant that, in my experience, if one is still waiting 'after 48 hours', maybe you would want to email them and it might just hasten the process. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Mine considered fast, register in the morning before 11am and got the approval email ~9pm yesterday.
For initial deposit, is it compulsory to put in 250 to KDI invest?
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Mine considered fast, register in the morning before 11am and got the approval email ~9pm yesterday.
For initial deposit, is it compulsory to put in 250 to KDI invest?
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did it at night, next morning ~10am got approved,, smile.gif
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Yes, 1st deposit for invest is 250 and next subsequent is 100.

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My account still pending approval. How soon is it normally approved?
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 9 2022, 06:39 PM)
processing cutoff is 11am ---- updates to us is usually between 4-5pm (deposit/profit/withdrawal)

for withdrawal, since they processed before 5pm transfer window (i assume using IBG), the expected fund receive is by 11pm, same day.... so far i've tested 1 time test withdrawal, fund received 1030pm+.

so, for withdrawal, dont expect to receive money early  laugh.gif , especially when you need the fund fast/urgent... always plan +1 working day.
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I have asked Kenangan this:
Cutoff Deposit
KDI Save - 11am
KDI Invest - 8am

Cutoff withdraw
1-2 working days

Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest
4-5 working days

My experience is
Deposit @21.02.2022, 3:14PM and account update @23.02.2022, 12:47AM. (2days)
Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest @24.02.2022, 3:57AM, account updated @25.02.2022, 4:42PM (1day)

So, the cutoff days/time is their processing time and whether successful and update in our account is depends on their system?

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I have asked Kenangan this:
Cutoff Deposit
KDI Save - 11am
KDI Invest - 8am

Cutoff withdraw
1-2 working days

Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest
4-5 working days

My experience is
Deposit @21.02.2022, 3:14PM and account update @23.02.2022, 12:47AM.  (2days)
Transfer from KDI Save to KDI Invest @24.02.2022, 3:57AM, account updated @25.02.2022, 4:42PM (1day)

So, the cutoff days/time is their processing time and whether successful and update in our account is depends on their system?
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no idea about Invest, not using it

for Save, i made it simple timing to follow/remember laugh.gif

User-activity cutoff: 11am (deposit or withdrawal)
KDI system update: ~4-5pm++
IBG fund received: before 11pm (from my twice withdrawals, somewhere 10+pm) --- if backward calculate, their IBG transfer initiated betweem 2-5pm window

not really tracking when KDI processing, but above is just my observations thumbsup.gif
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u can check back page 12 or so. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5243436/+220
i've constructed a yahoo finance portfolio based on the aggressive growth percentages. it'll be red though, 2022's a bear market
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no idea about Invest, not using it

for Save, i made it simple timing to follow/remember  laugh.gif

User-activity cutoff: 11am (deposit or withdrawal)
KDI system update: ~4-5pm++
IBG fund received: before 11pm (from my twice withdrawals, somewhere 10+pm) --- if backward calculate, their IBG transfer initiated betweem 2-5pm window

not really tracking when KDI processing, but above is just my observations  thumbsup.gif
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Try Friday’s withdrawal as it seems to be more efficient as I received the money by 7pm as compared to Monday at 9pm

For sure need insiders in Pacific Trustee to spill some beans on the IBG tim8ng rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 10 2022, 10:48 PM)
test 100k?

to put in max is 50k per day via FPX... to take out?
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WD RM100k yes that amount should tell us, if can get it easily, we feel more confident.

So far has anyone withdrawn RM100k or more and go the money without delay?

meanwhile enjoy the interest first...

deposit daily is not 50kmax, can be much more depends on how many bank accounts you have.
withdaw is like no limit, but must try then only can confirm.




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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 12 2022, 10:35 PM)
WD RM100k yes that amount should tell us, if can get it easily, we feel more confident.

So far has anyone withdrawn RM100k or more and go the money without delay?

meanwhile enjoy the interest first...

deposit  daily is not 50kmax, can be much more depends on how many bank accounts you have.
withdaw is like no limit, but must try then only can confirm.
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You can do it yourself without asked ng others to doh.gif
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Why you so obsessed about it  doh.gif

You can do it yourself without asked ng others to  doh.gif
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you havent done it, no answer u stay aside. doh.gif doh.gif

wait for people who done to share

i will withdraw for sure,small amount dont bother.
big must stretch to the end

no info i WD 30.3.22 confident can get money by 5.4.22

got info maybe can stretch till 4.4.22 get extra 1k
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Interesting ..I noticed few days ago 70% of my portfolio in KDI invest is on real estate,

Then today 70% is on international equities.

I not sure how kenanga do it, they will sell all the real estate funds and buy int. equities? Is this the AI at work? .can someone shed lights?

This re-opt is so frequent, it happens every few days. Just hope they know what they are doing.




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I think they probably fix their bug backend and it's reflected on the mobile apps. Still the geographical allocation map is screwed up

QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 13 2022, 02:06 PM)
Interesting ..I noticed few days ago 70% of my portfolio in KDI invest is on real estate,

Then today 70% is on international equities.

I not sure how kenanga do it, they will sell all the real estate funds and buy int. equities? Is this the AI at work? .can someone shed lights?

This re-opt is so frequent, it happens every few days. Just hope they know what they are doing.
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you havent done it, no answer u stay aside. doh.gif  doh.gif

wait for people who done to share

i will withdraw for sure,small amount dont bother.
big must stretch to the end

no info i WD 30.3.22 confident can get money by 5.4.22

got info maybe can stretch till 4.4.22 get extra 1k
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I already done it before so i know the answer already doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Mar 13 2022, 02:06 PM)
Interesting ..I noticed few days ago 70% of my portfolio in KDI invest is on real estate,

Then today 70% is on international equities.

I not sure how kenanga do it, they will sell all the real estate funds and buy int. equities? Is this the AI at work? .can someone shed lights?

This re-opt is so frequent, it happens every few days. Just hope they know what they are doing.
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Iinm it is traded almost daily just like MyTheo to protect the riskier assets

The AI is active unlike SA is passive
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i made a transfer today from invest to save, then i got a message saying it take 6 days to process!? did someone came across?

I pressed away accidentally but managed to peek the message a second
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Interesting ..I noticed few days ago 70% of my portfolio in KDI invest is on real estate,

Then today 70% is on international equities.
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any transaction records? tbh, i believe it's more of a UI bug than actual reopt, as it's a rushed project

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i made a transfer today from invest to save, then i got a message saying it take 6 days to process!? did someone came across?

I pressed away accidentally but managed to peek the message a second
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Yes because it take so 2 days to transfer the money Trustee while another 3 days to buy allocated ETFs

You better off deposit directly to save the time

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