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post Dec 9 2009, 09:08 AM, updated 16y ago

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Lets talk about Astro B-yond here...

At last!!!Afetr a long waiting.Astro giving u HD-Content direct to your home...We can discuss this our newly Astro service..Astro B.yond oni please!!!

We can discuss about the package, quality, cost and oso hardware....everything info and guide to Astro B.yond..

Please refer to the link given

http://www.astro.com.my/byond/index.asp
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Thanks to all threaders for the information.. nod.gif

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post Dec 9 2009, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 9 2009, 09:08 AM)
Lets talk about Astro B-yond here...

Astro will give u HD-Content direct to your home...
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as opposed to what... going via your neighbours?

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post Dec 9 2009, 09:24 AM

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its mean that..u satelite channel la bro...
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:37 AM

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tell us more...i found nothing of Hi Def news from astro website
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:43 AM

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i think we need to wait till Fri for some kinda announcement from Astro
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:43 AM

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Read from yesterday's the Star In-Tech that it'll launch before end of the year
the HD content can support up to 1080i and even comes with surround sound
wonder how's the price like and the video bitrate that it delivers hmm.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:57 AM

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Need to change decoder AND SATELLITE DISH!

What about those apartments / gated communities that have central Astro dish? sad.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:58 AM

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Is it really called Astro B-yond, not Astro Beyond?
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post Dec 9 2009, 09:59 AM

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what about when it's cloudy?
no signal again?
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Dec 9 2009, 09:43 AM)
Read from yesterday's the Star In-Tech that it'll launch before end of the year
the HD content can support up to 1080i and even comes with surround sound
wonder how's the price like and the video bitrate that it delivers  hmm.gif
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I still have no idea about 720p vs 1080i.Yes, P stands for progressive while I is interlaced but what are they really?If not mistaken, progressive is always better than interlaced.So now should we get a 1080p tv or a 720p? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:20 AM

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A friend of mine who works in Astro will be getting her Astro HD decoder in 2 weeks time, and it's free for them. :-D

She also mentioned the actual date of Astro HD launching to the consumers is on 18th Dec.
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kaneshi @ Dec 9 2009, 10:20 AM)
A friend of mine who works in Astro will be getting her Astro HD decoder in 2 weeks time, and it's free for them. :-D

She also mentioned the actual date of Astro HD launching to the consumers is on 18th Dec.
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Okay, do we need to pay for the new decoder?What about the dish?
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:28 AM

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Byond. be prepared to pay more and more and more and more......LOL
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:33 AM

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It's very likely that we have to pay for the decoder and the satellite dish upgrade. The exceptional one could be those pioneer subscribers decade ago.

Anyway, previously I heard the Astro HD will be in 720p, but looking at this aritcle again, it is "corrected" to 1080i. :-D

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...&sec=technology

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post Dec 9 2009, 10:38 AM

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Hopefully we can 'trade-in' our existing decoder and dish. If not i start dish recyling business. LOL
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:22 AM

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I think content matters followed by transmission quality. Currently i dont find any excitement at all in their program. Apologies for my bluntness..
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:59 AM

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i bet my ass a World Cup 2010 Package on the horizon smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Dec 9 2009, 11:59 AM)
i bet my ass a World Cup 2010 Package on the horizon smile.gif
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How much do you think Astro will charge for World Cup 2010 package? RM100 or RM200? laugh.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 01:16 PM

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I hope to watch Astro on Demand TVB series in HD and widescreen, just like how it was shown in HK.


Added on December 9, 2009, 1:17 pm
QUOTE(azxel @ Dec 9 2009, 09:59 AM)
what about when it's cloudy?
no signal again?
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A high-definition-blank-screen will be shown during thunder storm / cloudy.

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post Dec 9 2009, 02:17 PM

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How come use 1080i instead of 1080p ??

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post Dec 9 2009, 02:23 PM

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half the bandwidth required.
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post Dec 9 2009, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Dec 9 2009, 11:59 AM)
i bet my ass a World Cup 2010 Package on the horizon smile.gif
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CONFIRM AH! what better way to reel in subscribers than World Cup season
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post Dec 9 2009, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:17 PM)
How come use 1080i instead of 1080p ??
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who / where is broadcasting HDTV at 1080p?
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post Dec 9 2009, 02:32 PM

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i think we should change decoder, dish and oso remote...as i heard la...and also extra rm20 for monthly rent....now we are using 60cm dish.....then they will change to 65cm dish...
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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 9 2009, 02:29 PM)
who / where is broadcasting HDTV at 1080p?
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Maybe he 'broadcast' via wifi-N at his house. laugh.gif
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relax bro....
info gather.....erm, i think it will be launch on 18 dec....i heard la..
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post Dec 9 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 9 2009, 02:29 PM)
who / where is broadcasting HDTV at 1080p?
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Mayb not here... but in US..
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:URN1q...lient=firefox-a

"1080p: The Ultimate HD Experience
As the leader in HD, DIRECTV now brings you the latest in HD technology: 1080p. The same HD format as Blu-ray Discs, 1080p delivers a picture that's even sharper and smoother than 1080i, especially for movies. The hottest titles are now available in 1080p on DIRECTV on DEMAND. Experience them like never before. "

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QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 03:51 PM)
Mayb not here... but in US..
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:URN1q...lient=firefox-a

"1080p: The Ultimate HD Experience
As the leader in HD, DIRECTV now brings you the latest in HD technology: 1080p. The same HD format as Blu-ray Discs, 1080p delivers a picture that's even sharper and smoother than 1080i, especially for movies. The hottest titles are now available in 1080p on DIRECTV on DEMAND. Experience them like never before. "
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how long has DirecTV been broadcasting HD? Could take just as long, most probably longer for Astro to get to 1080p
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post Dec 9 2009, 04:27 PM

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Anyone know where I can sign up to pre-order the dish/decoder?
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post Dec 9 2009, 04:36 PM

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wait la bro...just look at it first after launch then will look into it...relax bro..
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720P better or 1080i?
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post Dec 9 2009, 05:00 PM

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All now only speculation. Also what content will they be transmitting and REPEATED for n times?
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post Dec 9 2009, 05:21 PM

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Is there such a thing as few hundred feet HDMI cables? Reason being my family's household has one decoder and right now we use few hundred feet of wiring in order to receive Astro upstairs in my room so in order to receive HD, I will need to change the cables to HDMI, is there such length of cable? Forgive me if it sounds silly tongue.gif
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US & bolehland...how to compare darr....will be happy to accept anything Astro throws at us consumers...be grateful we will get HD content at least...at least those with HDTV will not complaint about the awful PQ...

so now the launch date is 18-Dec pulak?? i tot was 11-Dec?
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post Dec 9 2009, 08:04 PM

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the funny thing is the launch is just around the corner, and consumers still not updated, on the extra charges and how to change the set top boxes/dish

so who will be the 1st batch to view HD content

such a big multinational corporation..... but with screwed-up managemnet


Added on December 9, 2009, 8:09 pmactually before the HD launch, consumers must be notified about the charges maybe 6mths before,

so installation process will be done prior to those that agree,
and "BANG" on the 18th, consumers will withness 1080i broadcast

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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Dec 9 2009, 04:39 PM)
720P better or 1080i?
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720p.

1080i is kinda like 540p
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sorry to say somemore, after merdeka, and Tun Dr Mahathir, had stress, we will be citizens of malaysia in 2020, and now our "one malaysia"

sorry to elaborate ok

but, i see we chinese are being pinalised, our package is the most expensive as we really need Wah Lai Toi (Dynasti)

for other races, they just need the minimum package,

to be frank Astro is very unfair since Day 1.....
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 9 2009, 08:04 PM)
the funny thing is the launch is just around the corner, and consumers still not updated, on the extra charges and how to change the set top boxes/dish
Its not officially launched lah. How can explain the package price to the public? doh.gif


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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 9 2009, 09:23 PM)
Its not officially launched lah. How can explain the package price to the public?  doh.gif
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LOL laugh.gif
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Better if they can swap our existing decoder with the new one and pay extra small amount.. Is it with HDMI connection?
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Dec 9 2009, 05:54 PM)
US & bolehland...how to compare darr....will be happy to accept anything Astro throws at us consumers...be grateful we will get HD content at least...at least those with HDTV will not complaint about the awful PQ...

so now the launch date is 18-Dec pulak?? i tot was 11-Dec?
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Dec 11 is just the Media Press Conference.
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usa got their NatGeoHD in 720p, singapore in 1080i, so what resolution will we get in the coming astro HDTV launch?

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Actually all retailer oledi has their HD decoder in hand..For demo purpose after official launch..
Maybe u go to a nearby one and see they allow u to preview it or not..
Hehe..

New decoder will be around 50% size of the silver decoder..power supply is external one, like those laptop power adaptor..


Added on December 10, 2009, 12:09 amWebsite to visit after ASTRO byond officially launch:
http://www.astro.com.my/byond

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why copy axn beyond's name? AstroHD sounded better icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 9 2009, 10:16 AM)
I still have no idea about 720p vs 1080i.Yes, P stands for progressive while I is interlaced but what are they really?If not mistaken, progressive is always better than interlaced.So now should we get a 1080p tv or a 720p? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Dec 10 2009, 12:05 AM)
Actually all retailer oledi has their HD decoder in hand..For demo purpose after official launch..
Maybe u go to a nearby one and see they allow u to preview it or not..
Hehe..

New decoder will be around 50% size of the silver decoder..power supply is external one, like those laptop power adaptor..


Added on December 10, 2009, 12:09 amWebsite to visit after ASTRO byond officially launch:
http://www.astro.com.my/byond
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Thanks for the info. The url is ready but the website is NOT, 404 ERROR.
It is all poor management. There is just not pre-launch activities!


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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 9 2009, 08:20 PM)
sorry to say somemore, after merdeka, and Tun Dr Mahathir, had stress, we will be citizens of malaysia in 2020, and now our "one malaysia"

sorry to elaborate ok

but, i see we chinese are being pinalised, our package is the most expensive as we really need Wah Lai Toi (Dynasti)

for other races, they just need the minimum package,

to be frank Astro is very unfair since Day 1.....
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Bro , Indians too the same we pay more then then Bumi friends who have the privelage to more free channels.All they need is a sports package thats it not like us have to get xtra if not nothing to watch.

By the way hope Tommorrow HD is launched rclxm9.gif
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Hmm I hope the 2nd decoder 50% off will start for the same time.Then I will get another one with HDMI decoder.
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post Dec 10 2009, 07:52 AM

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Confirm astro B.yond will be launch tomorrow (11 Dec 2009)...please refer to this link...

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/...icle/index_html

at last.....the day is tomorrow... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(MrM @ Dec 10 2009, 06:56 AM)
Hmm I hope the 2nd decoder 50% off will start for the same time.Then I will get another one with HDMI decoder.
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50% off for 2nd decoder wont apply to new HD service..as different subscription fees, decoder used, etc


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Thanks for the info. The url is ready but the website is NOT, 404 ERROR.
It is all poor management. There is just not pre-launch activities!
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Astro just to keep all the info P&C b4 the launch..
Dunno y so secret.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Dec 10 2009, 09:03 AM)
50% off for 2nd decoder wont apply to new HD service..as different subscription fees, decoder used, etc


Added on December 10, 2009, 9:05 am

Astro just to keep all the info P&C b4 the launch..
Dunno y so secret..  sweat.gif
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Astro should have given out boxes first to customers and then launch it. It wld have been fun not launch and we get to see nothing but continue waiting again ! Very bad planning ! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 10 2009, 07:52 AM)
Confirm astro B.yond will be launch tomorrow (11 Dec 2009)...please refer to this link...

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/...icle/index_html

at last.....the day is tomorrow... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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finally ..... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
hope to hear the good news tomorrow...


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The questions will be answered tomorrow finally.
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post Dec 10 2009, 10:17 AM

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i was told the cable from dish to decoder might need to change also, how true is that?
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 10 2009, 09:26 AM)
The questions will be answered tomorrow finally.
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It is confirmed HD would be launched 2morrow rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 9 2009, 09:23 PM)
Its not officially launched lah. How can explain the package price to the public?  doh.gif
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i "very know" its not launch yet.... astro is a monopoly business concept, so are the decoders...

decoders are not expensive like vehicles,
for vehicles...you book at the launch date, and take delivery on the 1st phase of ready stocks, 1st come 1st delivered basis..


we do know Malaysian TV network, going HD broadcast rite?? in the NEAR future, Even its in the NEAR future, we can still buy HD receiver LCD's mind not, dvico ( which many of our forumers had already invested in one).
so what i basically mean, is we just get ourself ready, so if Malaysian TV goes HD on the 18th, those who have the equipment will be able to enjoy on that very day itself !!! correct

for astro, you want to get ready also kenot, you have to wait for them announce, then maybe subscribers will be notified in batches when their installation is available....

just like "premium BOX office" you pay ahead so on the broadcast date you get to watch... so shows are not even launched yet but you got the prices\, pay and just wait for broadcasting.... got it biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 10 2009, 09:11 AM)
Astro should have given out boxes first to customers and then launch it. It wld have been fun not launch and we get to see nothing but continue waiting again ! Very bad planning ! vmad.gif
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seconded

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post Dec 10 2009, 10:48 AM

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i guess 2moro is just to announce the details and start accept subscription, 18 will be the actual date we can start to enjoy, giving a week time for installation etc?
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QUOTE(accs_centre @ Dec 10 2009, 09:03 AM)
50% off for 2nd decoder wont apply to new HD service..as different subscription fees, decoder used, etc


Added on December 10, 2009, 9:05 am

Astro just to keep all the info P&C b4 the launch..
Dunno y so secret..  sweat.gif
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haha..haha... wats is there to br so secretive about..... its a monopolised business

either you take it or dont... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JayC75 @ Dec 10 2009, 10:48 AM)
i guess 2moro is just to announce the details and start accept subscription, 18 will be the actual date we can start to enjoy, giving a week time for installation etc?
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I doubt it. Some Astro installers I know are like Astro !! One week is just too short to get it done guys ! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 10 2009, 06:16 AM)
Bro , Indians too the same we pay more then then Bumi friends who have the privelage to more free channels.All they need is a sports package thats it not like us have to  get xtra if not nothing to watch.

By the way hope Tommorrow HD is launched  rclxm9.gif
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many subscribers still can stay tuned to the given basic channels, biggrin.gif

but seriously we tak bolih le.... out of 100 i believe 80 and thats 80% sure must take the Dynasti package,

actually the given AEC, and another one is not so in demand smile.gif
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i dont get it, they said have RM150 million in marketing for HD rollout, why not yet done any marketing to generate buzz around Astro HD??
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 10 2009, 11:21 AM)
i dont get it, they said have RM150 million in marketing for HD rollout, why not yet done any marketing to generate buzz around Astro HD??
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precisely, the 150m funds suppose to be the decoders/dish y not send to us 1st prior to launch date, so come 11th all will enjoy HD broadcast

hmm.gif now i am really wondering a plus for astro also ( this i must say rclxms.gif )

if malaysian TV goes HD, so those with astro HD, will not have to change their TV!!! ( fingers crossed biggrin.gif )

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so are we getting dvb-s2 decoder? hopefully we can use it to receive free-to-air HD channels brows.gif

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 10 2009, 10:38 AM)
i "very know" its not launch yet.... astro is a monopoly business concept, so are the decoders...
Why are you arguing about this? We all know about it lah.

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decoders are not expensive like vehicles,

for vehicles...you book at the launch date, and take delivery on the 1st phase of ready stocks, 1st come 1st delivered basis..
we do know Malaysian TV network, going HD broadcast rite?? in the NEAR future, Even its in the NEAR future, we can still buy HD receiver LCD's mind not, dvico ( which many of our forumers had already invested in one).
so what i basically mean, is we just get ourself ready, so if Malaysian TV goes HD on the 18th, those who have the equipment will be able to enjoy on that very day itself !!! correct
Why compare with vehicles? Unlike decoder, vehicles has a different kind of market.

Look at iPhone, they announce it during Mac expo, but no one can order it straight away. Intel also announce their CPU, but you cannot get it straight away at lowyat plaza. Same thing with Astro HD. 11th is the official announcement and people can start registering.

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so are we getting dvb-s2 decoder? hopefully we can use it to receive free-to-air HD channels brows.gif
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i dont get it, they said have RM150 million in marketing for HD rollout, why not yet done any marketing to generate buzz around Astro HD??
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Because its not the launch day lah. doh.gif Why is it so hard to understand these things?
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 10 2009, 11:05 AM)
many subscribers still can stay tuned to the given basic channels, biggrin.gif

but seriously we tak bolih le.... out of 100 i believe 80 and thats 80% sure must take the Dynasti package,

actually the given AEC, and another one is not so in demand smile.gif
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because i like to watch TVB Dramas on Wah la Toi... rclxms.gif but sometimes feel annoying with Malay subtitles that they provided... like biscuit.. kejap ada..kejap tiada.. cry.gif
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Because its not the launch day lah.  doh.gif  Why is it so hard to understand these things?
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That's really...really...really IMPOSIBBLE  whistling.gif
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clearly you have not seen the latest dvb-s2 decoder.... it can make coffee and toast bread, so if you use it as an alarm clock, when you wake up in the morning, your HD channel switches on, toast and coffee is ready




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That's really...really...really IMPOSIBBLE  whistling.gif
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reflash the rom, no? hmm.gif
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reflash the rom, no? hmm.gif
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Someone's getting cranky. laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif astro employee i guess biggrin.gif


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That's really...really...really IMPOSIBBLE  whistling.gif
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seriously .... i dont think its impossible..... unless its localy made decoder

if its imported, i think it shud house the Digital RF circuit too biggrin.gif

but anyway, will be made known, or maybe can drop by astro retailers to view the decoder biggrin.gif

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biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  astro employee i guess biggrin.gif
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Why are you arguing about this? We all know about it lah.
Why compare with vehicles? Unlike decoder, vehicles has a different kind of market.

Look at iPhone, they announce it during Mac expo, but no one can order it straight away. Intel also announce their CPU, but you cannot get it straight away at lowyat plaza. Same thing with Astro HD. 11th is the official announcement and people can start registering.
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for iphone and intel.... the situation is different, they face fierce competition from nokia, blackberry, sony ericcson, omnia, AMD etc

so they have to announce even their prouduct is still in protocol stage, so "world humans" will refrain from buying anything competitive 1st, unless in urgent need...
marketing strategy ma biggrin.gif


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If im an employee what for I keep asking about the decoder.  rolleyes.gif
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play play ma... hide around the bush.... no joke no fun ma, no angry ar ok smile.gif

i was one of the early astro dealers, that had a demo line for 4 years view full package even astrolink.....

Also one of the top 5 dealers offered a stay in Mandarin Oriental, during their convection, not to mention few times in Palace of golden horse by their sister company ... biggrin.gif

wah so boastfull le me... biggrin.gif pai seh


Added on December 10, 2009, 1:43 pmeven abang adik also want each other to die

if got the slightest news that Alza is on the verge of a touchdown,

i think normal ppl will stop getting exora, livina, avanza 1st, most probably wait a litter longer ...look c look c 1st then decide smile.gif

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Astro will hv to compete wit TM IPTV early next yr...which is good to us, as Astro already teamed up with Maxis to provide data services, which i assume it will intergrate in part of Astro offerring later on.
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so are we getting dvb-s2 decoder? hopefully we can use it to receive free-to-air HD channels brows.gif
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Bro ! when Astro was that canggih !? Remember Max the flop ? I am sure the decorder wld be the cheapest make ! mad.gif rclxm9.gif
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i have tried find the spyshot of this around the web but null.....they kept it secret so close la...
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The reason not to announce ealier is simple, when ppl dunno about it, they will still proceed to subscribe for current package with old decoder, so old decoder stock won't be piled up and imagine they announce the official release date 3/6 months earlier, who else will subscribe to old one?

I was about to subscribe to astro few days back and i'm so lucky that i did not... huhu
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2morrow, at least lots of info will known...just wait....
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why go to all these trouble to watch free to air channel?
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Astro will hv to compete wit TM IPTV early next yr...which is good to us, as Astro already teamed up with Maxis to provide data services, which i assume it will intergrate in part of Astro offerring later on.
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Bet TM wld lose or give in to Astro !! Astro is TOO STRONG for TM ! What can TM show on IPTV ? Most channels are under Astro's spell !!l icon_rolleyes.gif
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NHK world just went HD a few days ago on free-to-air satellite, if only I could get hold of cheap HD decoder cry.gif
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got decoder also illegal to use it watch other satellite, i am from sarawak, it is strange almost everyone install satellite dish to receive free to air channel there but here most people dont dare to do it. got case police arrest people for installing illegal dish? hmm.gif

and the NHK is using mpeg4, will astro be using mpeg2 or mpeg4?

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for educational purpose tongue.gif self-learning satellite technology, but prepare to eat free nasi curry if get caught sweat.gif

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got decoder also illegal to use it watch other satellite, i am from sarawak, it is strange almost everyone install satellite dish to receive free to air channel there but here most people dont dare to do it. got case police arrest people for installing illegal dish?  hmm.gif

and the NHK is using mpeg4, will astro be using mpeg2 or mpeg4?
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bro, you are lucky to be in that part of the world ( east Malaysia biggrin.gif )

many sat dishes had been installed long time EVEN before astro was officially launch

even the rulling party dare not touch on this issue..... rclxms.gif
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for educational purpose tongue.gif self-learning satellite technology, but prepare to eat free nasi curry if get caught  sweat.gif
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http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/dm-8000-hd-pvr

it have not one but two dvb-s2 tuner, and optinal dvb-t and dvb-c tuner car can be install also. and the best part is this is also a pvr and got internal hard disk and even dvd drive. and running linux which give you a few firmware to choose from.

the problem is the output is DVI to HDMI which mean audio need to use S/PDIF, and also it cost $1300+ USD

i may have broke the law just by taking about this kind of hardware. tongue.gif


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bro, you are lucky to be in that part of the world ( east Malaysia biggrin.gif )

many sat dishes had been installed long time EVEN before astro was officially launch

even the rulling party dare not touch on this issue..... rclxms.gif
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now i live in KL sad.gif

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Astro goes high definition

MEASAT Broadcast Network Systems Sdn Bhd (Astro) is now preparing to launch its new Astro high-definition (HD) broadcast which will replace the standard definition (SD) viewing, just like how colour television replaced black-and-white television 30 years ago.

The new decoder set-top-box, remote control and satellite dish will be unveiled tomorrow.

The HD broadcast allows for sharper pictures, more vibrant colours, cinematic surround sound with the 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround Sound, wider screen and details that are five times greater than that of regular SD programming.

Both HD-Ready and Full HD TV sets are capable of displaying SD and HD broadcast. However, TV programmes are still broadcast in SD 4:3 aspect ratios and when received on a HD 16:9 aspect ratio television set, the images are often stretched or distorted.

Now, with the new Astro HD broadcast, Astro subscribers can enjoy all the benefits of their HD television sets.

The new Astro HD decoder set-top-box HD-output will be via the high-definition multimedia interface (HDMI), which is a compact audio/video cable for transmitting uncompressed digital data.

This is usually found in audio systems, personal computers and video game consoles.

All HD TV sets come with the HDMI port, but it is recommended to get one with multiple HDMI ports to allow other devices to be connected to the TV at the same time.

Astro will first start broadcasting in HD for a few channels from three Astro packages – Movies, Learning and Sports. The channels will be announced tomorrow. – Chan Soo Wah

Updated: 11:11AM Thu, 10 Dec 2009


http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=41189

more updates to come on tomorrow.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
hey,how about the standard definition user? do they need to change their dish and decoder too? hmm.gif
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them you need this thumbup.gif
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http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/dm-8000-hd-pvr

it have not one but two dvb-s2 tuner, and optinal dvb-t and dvb-c tuner car can be install also. and the best part is this is a pvr also got hard disk and even dvd drive. and running linux which give you a few firmware to choose from.

i may have broke the law just by taking about this kind of hardware.  tongue.gif


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now i live in KL  sad.gif
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so sorry to hear that.... sad.gif
hmm.gif ...welcome to the club then.... biggrin.gif
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about the Dreambox HD pvr, there is a lot of clone made in china, even got people made it in malaysia, check out the funny product detail section.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/100127...e_Receiver.html
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beautiful machine, china here I come flying airAsia rclxm9.gif

here is more info about nhk world HD
http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/tv/h.../reception.html

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But still, with the new decoder, Astro will have to change my wiring and.....where to find few hundred feet of HDMI cable? I refuse to pay for a second decoder even if it is 50 percent off.
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 10 2009, 04:46 PM)
But still, with the new decoder, Astro will have to change my wiring and.....where to find few hundred feet of HDMI cable? I refuse to pay for a second decoder even if it is 50 percent off.
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why do you need several hundred feet of hdmi cable? your decoder so far away from tv??
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Two TVs..one in bedroom, one in hall.
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get a HDMI splitter just like how they do it in the big electrical store and long HDMI cable
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some fellow member is selling long HDMI cable right here in lyn

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Connection currently is:

Satelite dish -> living room decoder -> living room TV

* living room decoder -> upstair TV

QUOTE(neb @ Dec 10 2009, 04:50 PM)
get a HDMI splitter just like how they do it in the big electrical store
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???? how does that help in terms of length?

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HDMI extender use CAT5 ethernet cable to save money on HDMI cable cost.
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HDMI extender use CAT5 ethernet cable to save money on HDMI cable cost.
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so people in condos who share a single dish are screwed eh.

Oh well, looks like I'll need to get my HD fix from other sources.
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Just curious if the new decoder using the same cable to connect to the dish as the old one?
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HDMI splitter over cat5 cable rclxms.gif
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You still need HDMI splitter. Don't think the Astro decoder has 2 HDMI output.
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Just curious if the new decoder using the same cable to connect to the dish as the old one?
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it is a package deal, HD decoder + bigger dish + better quality rg6 coaxial cable

I think you can still use the old RG6 cable if the cable condition is still good
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You still need HDMI splitter. Don't think the Astro decoder has 2 HDMI output.
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Yeah seems to be the case. Either way, looks like more drilling and wiring casing. cry.gif

Just found out the price of a wireless HDMI extender and it's 800 USD shocking.gif i'd rather have the splitter using the cat5 cables.
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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 10 2009, 05:23 PM)
it is a package deal, HD decoder + bigger dish + better quality rg6 coaxial cable

I think you can still use the old RG6 cable if the cable condition is still good
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Thanks for the info. I guess I will continue using my old cable as I dont want to pay extra money to hack my wall to put the new cable in sweat.gif
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dang.....might as well go for second decoder. since the dish is so near my bedroom tongue.gif but but...i'll need to pay the 50% myself sad.gif
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 10 2009, 05:29 PM)
dang.....might as well go for second decoder. since the dish is so near my bedroom tongue.gif but but...i'll need to pay the 50% myself sad.gif
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I think currently don't have the second decoder promotion.
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HDMI splitter over cat5 cable  rclxms.gif
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My TV is HD ready but no HDMI but component cables, any help guys ? I heard Astro uses HDMI output not component ! My 2004 Toshiba TV is meant to connect HD box vide component cables. Pls advise sweat.gif icon_question.gif
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I googled and here you are:
http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdtocoad.html



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But still, with the new decoder, Astro will have to change my wiring and.....where to find few hundred feet of HDMI cable? I refuse to pay for a second decoder even if it is 50 percent off.
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dont think need to change cables ( astro using 75ohms same as coaxial ady), even RTM does their HD broadcast test using existing aerial, and RF cables
QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 10 2009, 05:18 PM)
You still need HDMI splitter. Don't think the Astro decoder has 2 HDMI output.
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i really think serve no purpose having 2HDMI outs,
If no HDMI receiver also cant do anything

think no one will hook one to TV and the other to AVR

if your receiver have HDMI input, means you can bypass your astro HDMI thru existing AVR enven if the AVR is "switched OFF" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 10 2009, 05:03 PM)
so people in condos who share a single dish are screwed eh.

Oh well, looks like I'll need to get my HD fix from other sources.
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u sure the entire condo block shares one dish? i remember last time when the Astro installer came & installed my 2nd decoder (current 2storey house) he told me one dish is good for up to 6 decoder nia..not sure if its different for condo/apartment application..

one question if anyone knows, the new HD dish, can still receive SD broadcast right? i mean even if change the dish, change to the new HD set up top box, i still can receive current SD channels...not necessary to subs to HD channels right?? or another scenario, change the dish, but maintained old decoder, can still receive current SD broadcast?

reason am i asking is if that's the case, at least i can propose to the management to replace the dish at my apartment & it wont cause any disruption to others not keen on migrating to HD....or if there's a few dish on the roof, they can identify which is mine and can change that particular one only (quite unlikely but one never knows)

yes, i'm really quite excited over this whole Astro HD thingy...been waiting for it so long and it sucks that i live in apartment and have no direct control over the Astro dish....hopefully some kinda solution will be announce by Astro tomorrow too for all condo/apartment subscribers..


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The Edge's view on astro going HD from financial angle, the bottom line is that astro is targeting RM80 revenue per subscriber sweat.gif :
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/features/15...ayout-talk.html

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first, maxis relisted on BSKL...they got billions of cash...

then, Astro plans to sells off 580m worth of shares in India...

i wonder if something wrong with AK? the news report emphasis on Astro 'accelerated' introduction of HD content..means they may not be ready for it?? or means they weren't suppose to launch it so soon??

another concern, the bloody decoder so expensive mehh?? needs subsidy of RM500 per unit?? means ori price is much much higher?? geeshhh....but looking at it long term, they will surely make their monies back from Astro subs...

is there like a contract period for signing up Astro package? if like maxis, 2years contract for iphone, they make few iphones worth of profit per customer in return in 2 years..
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 10 2009, 05:29 PM)
dang.....might as well go for second decoder. since the dish is so near my bedroom tongue.gif but but...i'll need to pay the 50% myself sad.gif
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bro the 50% promotion apply to HD as well?
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Dec 10 2009, 06:32 PM)
u sure the entire condo block shares one dish? i remember last time when the Astro installer came & installed my 2nd decoder (current 2storey house) he told me one dish is good for up to 6 decoder nia..not sure if its different for condo/apartment application..

one question if anyone knows, the new HD dish, can still receive SD broadcast right? i mean even if change the dish, change to the new HD set up top box, i still can receive current SD channels...not necessary to subs to HD channels right?? or another scenario, change the dish, but maintained old decoder, can still receive current SD broadcast?

reason am i asking is if that's the case, at least i can propose to the management to replace the dish at my apartment & it wont cause any disruption to others not keen on migrating to HD....or if there's a few dish on the roof, they can identify which is mine and can change that particular one only (quite unlikely but one never knows)

yes, i'm really quite excited over this whole Astro HD thingy...been waiting for it so long and it sucks that i live in apartment and have no direct control over the Astro dish....hopefully some kinda solution will be announce by Astro tomorrow too for all condo/apartment subscribers..
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according to the astro tech whom i met a few months ago, he said in highrise condos thesignal strength is so weak by the time it reaches your unit it always poses problems for viewers.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 9 2009, 10:16 AM)
I still have no idea about 720p vs 1080i.Yes, P stands for progressive while I is interlaced but what are they really?If not mistaken, progressive is always better than interlaced.So now should we get a 1080p tv or a 720p? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I think content matters followed by transmission quality. Currently i dont find any excitement at all in their program. Apologies for my bluntness..
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QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:17 PM)
How come use 1080i instead of 1080p ??
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i use less bandwidth than p. About half of it.

QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 03:51 PM)
Mayb not here... but in US..
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:URN1q...lient=firefox-a

"1080p: The Ultimate HD Experience
As the leader in HD, DIRECTV now brings you the latest in HD technology: 1080p. The same HD format as Blu-ray Discs, 1080p delivers a picture that's even sharper and smoother than 1080i, especially for movies. The hottest titles are now available in 1080p on DIRECTV on DEMAND. Experience them like never before. "
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Yo bro, on demand lah. not real time. you connect ur record box to internet or leave it on standby for it to download the video. 1 1080p channel in real time will require about 24 to 28Mbps bandwidth. So 1 transponder can only have 1 or 2 channel and if 1 satellite have 10 transponder, u can only get 10 or 20 channel. 1 transponder is about 48Mbps rate.


QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 9 2009, 05:21 PM)
Is there such a thing as few hundred feet HDMI cables? Reason being my family's household has one decoder and right now we use few hundred feet of wiring in order to receive Astro upstairs in my room so in order to receive HD, I will need to change the cables to HDMI, is there such length of cable? Forgive me if it sounds silly tongue.gif
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Hundred feet? Ur room across jalan ke? There are long HDMI available.

QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 9 2009, 08:16 PM)
720p.

1080i is kinda like 540p
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QUOTE(JayC75 @ Dec 10 2009, 10:17 AM)
i was told the cable from dish to decoder might need to change also, how true is that?
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U might if it is not rg6 or old cable. If not ur signal will be very low and you will got the rain fade easily. Hujan sikit signal takde.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 10 2009, 04:59 PM)
HDMI extender use CAT5 ethernet cable to save money on HDMI cable cost.
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Sure. It might work. Does it work with HDCP? If it do let me know. Also can let us know where to get this?
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 10 2009, 08:37 PM)
according to the astro tech whom i met a few months ago, he said in highrise condos thesignal strength is so weak by the time it reaches your unit it always poses problems for viewers.
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i think it very much depends on the type of cables used..whether its good quality cables or not...i cant find article on net re the weaken signal for sattelite dish on high rise condo...guess will only knw when i install astro

btw, from wikipedia, RG60 cables, 50ohms, were branded as de cable to use for carrying HD signals...currently if not mistaken de connection between dish & decoder is via RG6, 75ohms?

Have a bad feeling cables needs to be changed too...anyways guess we'll find out tomorrow or at least can start sending astro questions after tomorrow
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720p.

1080i is kinda like 540p
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at 0.25 time.. quite misleading when the image is shrunk to depict loss of resolution.. LOL... the loss of resolution comes from inter frames not from pixels being shrunk in resolution..
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50% off for 2nd decoder wont apply to new HD service..as different subscription fees, decoder used, etc

50% off monthly fees for 2nd decoder where can i get now? I also like to get the Thomson decoder with Digital audio out & Component (3 cables). I would like to get it soon too.
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after watching that video, finally i understand that actually 720p is more better than 1080i... because LCD/Plasma was designed for progressive scan videos...
and i also feel a bit shocked that 1080i was placed at the bottom of 720p... sweat.gif ... anyway, thanks for posting that video... before this, i always set my dvd-player to output 1080i..., not 720p... so now, will always set my dvd player to 720p biggrin.gif
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bro kianwee.....
nice video insert, rclxms.gif
actually i thought of hearing the background music from your guitar strumming too.. haha biggrin.gif

i've thought of it long ago, that 720p shud be better than 10801,( just no details ) cause its progressive scan,
but i still use 1080i haha haha somehow or rather just dont accept only biggrin.gif

will try out next time again, i tested wit the dvico last time, NOW maybe with BD-Player biggrin.gif

gracias for that lovely presentation.. hmm.gif just no background music thats all biggrin.gif

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after watching that video, finally i understand that actually 720p is  more better than 1080i... because LCD/Plasma was designed for progressive scan videos...
and i also feel a bit shocked that 1080i was placed at the bottom of 720p...  sweat.gif ... anyway, thanks for posting that video... before this, i always set my dvd-player to output 1080i..., not 720p... so now, will always set my dvd player to 720p  biggrin.gif
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huhuhu, this proves that some people here don't know sh1t and just trying to act pro. Finger point to ecam. 720p is always better than 1080i. That's the fact.
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Well today is the day. I even stayed up hoping the byond website goes up on Astro site. Till this morning nothing was updated.

Maybe Screamyx is throttling Astro websites too.
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Well today is the day. I even stayed up hoping the byond website goes up on Astro site. Till this morning nothing was updated.

Maybe Screamyx is throttling Astro websites too.
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huhuhu, this proves that some people here don't know sh1t and just trying to act pro. Finger point to ecam. 720p is always better than 1080i. That's the fact.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif but i think, i don't act like pro here... blush.gif

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One word to add to the 1080i vs 720p debate.

If u have a good deinterlacer 1080i can produce a stunning picture as well. Deinterlacing 1080i is not as easy as it seems. Given a good deinterlacing chip (ie, ABT2010, HQV Reon) you would be hard pressed to tell which is better. Where it is normally seen as better for 720p broadcasts would be for fast moving sports. For movies, if your display has a good deinterlacing chip, u shd be good to go. Or of course if u have a AVR or external scaler/deinterlacer (Lumagen, Crystalio, DVDO) it would yield very good results.

The main problem with all HD broadcasts are bit rate compression. That is what you guys/gal shd worry abt. Astro is notorious for that....
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One word to add to the 1080i vs 720p debate.

If u have a good deinterlacer 1080i can produce a stunning picture as well. Deinterlacing 1080i is not as easy as it seems. Given a good deinterlacing chip (ie, ABT2010, HQV Reon) you would be hard pressed to tell which is better. Where it is normally seen as better for 720p broadcasts would be for fast moving sports. For movies, if your display has a good deinterlacing chip, u shd be good to go. Or of course if u have a AVR or external scaler/deinterlacer (Lumagen, Crystalio, DVDO) it would yield very good results.

The main problem with all HD broadcasts are bit rate compression. That is what you guys/gal shd worry abt. Astro is notorious for that....
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Well said Astro is notorius in compression and a Asian Expert when comes to compressing Tecnology mad.gif
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The main problem with all HD broadcasts are bit rate compression. That is what you guys/gal shd worry abt. Astro is notorious for that....
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That is true. On Astro, the Asia Food Channel looks good but on the other hand Cinemax looks like shit as if you are playing movies off the VCD.

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That is true. On Astro, the Asia Food Channel looks good but on the other hand Cinemax looks like shit as if you are playing movies off the VCD.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Dec 11 2009, 09:30 AM)
One word to add to the 1080i vs 720p debate.

If u have a good deinterlacer 1080i can produce a stunning picture as well. Deinterlacing 1080i is not as easy as it seems. Given a good deinterlacing chip (ie, ABT2010, HQV Reon) you would be hard pressed to tell which is better. Where it is normally seen as better for 720p broadcasts would be for fast moving sports. For movies, if your display has a good deinterlacing chip, u shd be good to go. Or of course if u have a AVR or external scaler/deinterlacer (Lumagen, Crystalio, DVDO) it would yield very good results.

The main problem with all HD broadcasts are bit rate compression. That is what you guys/gal shd worry abt. Astro is notorious for that....
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that 720p vs 1080i didn't take into account 1 thing...

and was waiting for you to remind people about deinterlacing.. biggrin.gif

all DVDs are interlaced as NTSC or PAL

say for example 640x 480i DVD source deinterlaced to 480p with a good deinterlacer is way better than any super hi-bit rate 320x240p (half rez) video...


on stationary /static video, 1080i-50/60hz can replicate 1080p 24 if all the flags are inserted correctly..

on slowing moving video the edges of the moving object will be affected.. stationary background can equate to 1080p video...

on fast moving scenes, like sports, then it will have 20-30% loss in quality (and awful combing effect) and have to rely on motion adaptive deinterlacer to work it's magic

anyway more details here...

http://www.100fps.com/


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I thought all flat panel displays today have inbuilt deinterlacers, which will convert from your 1080i to 1080p internally. In theory, that should give us more details as opposed to 720p, assuming that your display is capable of 1080 resolution.
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I thought all flat panel displays today have inbuilt deinterlacers, which will convert from your 1080i to 1080p internally. In theory, that should give us more details as opposed to 720p, assuming that your display is capable of 1080 resolution.
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previously the quality of deinterlacers are not so good.. but I think now even standard chips used in TV sets have pretty good deinterlacers.. havent seen much combing effect on TVs playing interlaced video for a long time..

nowadays if want to see combing effect, need to use PC with media player software and turn off all the deinterlacing.. then only can see it.. usually on those 1080i .TS broadcast video files..
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QUOTE(barry @ Dec 11 2009, 10:45 AM)
I thought all flat panel displays today have inbuilt deinterlacers, which will convert from your 1080i to 1080p internally. In theory, that should give us more details as opposed to 720p, assuming that your display is capable of 1080 resolution.
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Very true. However, not all have good deinterlacers.

One good example would be the Panny X and S series. They do not handle interlaced signals well....And most people in Malaysia have these sets and will complain when they get the Astro HD saying that the image is not as sharp as the expected....

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 11 2009, 10:49 AM)
previously the quality of deinterlacers are not so good.. but I think now even standard chips used in TV sets have pretty good deinterlacers.. havent seen much combing effect on TVs playing interlaced video for a long time..

nowadays if want to see combing effect, need to use PC with media player software and turn off all the deinterlacing.. then only can see it.. usually on those 1080i  .TS broadcast video files..
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ar188,

Most is correct. However, some entry level displays do not have decent deinterlacers....eg the Panny that I mentioned...
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the beginning and the end of the sorrowfull....painless.... suspense..... wait for astro HD news

called up my frendly astro retailer.

word is not launch yet, just receive the demo set, havent installed also, and dont know how's the procedure like.... smile.gif

so nothing is officially confirmed yet
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hi anfieldude,
mine display is an older model panny 50" hd-ready (1366x768) 50pv80h so i guess it should have an inferior deinterlacer, although i have yet to test it out myself. now, if astro is going to broadcast in 1080i instead of 720p, then all the more reason for me to skip it although i still hate to see the aspect-ratio distortion (fat and short people like me).

for me, i have a media player set up such that i can only spend rm470 for a 1.5tb loaded with hd stuff which should have hundreds of titles - no need astro hd for me!
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hi anfieldude,
mine display is an older model panny 50" hd-ready (1366x768) 50pv80h so i guess it should have an inferior deinterlacer, although i have yet to test it out myself. now, if astro is going to broadcast in 1080i instead of 720p, then all the more reason for me to skip it although i still hate to see the aspect-ratio distortion (fat and short people like me).

for me, i have a media player set up such that i can only spend rm470 for a 1.5tb loaded with hd stuff which should have hundreds of titles - no need astro hd for me!
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I think the pv80 was better at deintelacing.

Also, I don't think people shd skip it. It is still a big step up from the less than 576i that we get from Astro now.

What I was trying to get across was that the difference between 720p and 1080i has more to it than the i and p and the 720 and 1080. It depends on your setup and more importantly how Astro is going to compress the bitrates. That will be more important that the i,p, 720 and 1080 debate....
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QUOTE(barry @ Dec 11 2009, 11:19 AM)

if astro is going to broadcast in 1080i instead of 720p, then all the more reason for me to skip it although i still hate to see the aspect-ratio distortion (fat and short people like me).
no distortion, all mentioned in same ratio 16:9 (the TV, the 720p and 1080i)
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what i mean to say, ar188, is that since i will still stick to the non-hd astro, i will still see the stinking distorted 4:3 playing on my 16:9 plasma tv.
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what i mean to say, ar188, is that since i will still stick to the non-hd astro, i will still see the stinking distorted 4:3 playing on my 16:9 plasma tv.
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I thougt the PV80 shd have a "Just" mode that does the stretching quite well to fit the screen. As long as you do not select the Full Mode u shd be fine.

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this 'just' mode helps a little but the peope remain short and fat, definitely not the correct aspect ratio. it's only when i set it to 4:3 that i get the correct a-r with the 2 empty blue/grey bars on the sides.
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what i mean to say, ar188, is that since i will still stick to the non-hd astro, i will still see the stinking distorted 4:3 playing on my 16:9 plasma tv.
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you can always keep it in 4:3 mode on your plasma (just ignore the black bars on the left/right side and if able to try not to worry about IR biggrin.gif ), it looks really good.. try it and see.. reminds me of watching astro on 34inch 4:3 CRT 100HZ TV...
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anfield,
this 'just' mode helps a little but the peope remain short and fat, definitely not the correct aspect ratio. it's only when i set it to 4:3 that i get the correct a-r with the 2 empty blue/grey bars on the sides.
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same here oso,
i dont mind watching the 4:3 in 16:9 in wide zoom, really get a full 16:9 50" feel, but my HM prefer 4:3 mad.gif
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huhuhu, this proves that some people here don't know sh1t and just trying to act pro. Finger point to ecam. 720p is always better than 1080i. That's the fact.
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Bro, u got a crooked finger lah. Did I say anything about 720p vs 1080i? Failed...


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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 11 2009, 11:18 AM)
the beginning and the end of the sorrowfull....painless.... suspense..... wait for astro HD news

called up my frendly astro retailer.

word is not launch yet, just receive the demo set, havent installed also, and dont know how's the procedure like.... smile.gif

so nothing is officially confirmed yet
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so, astro will not launch their HD decoder today? rclxub.gif

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Maybe just launch for registration only.
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Source: Astro FB page

The Astro B.yond HD media launch just ended! The High Defininition service will launch on 18 December with:

Astro SuperSport HD
National Geographic Channel HD
History HD
HBO HD

while ESPN HD will be on air January 2010.

We'll also be the only one to broadcast all World Cup 2010 matches next year!

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Maybe just launch for registration only.
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I thought today they wld reveal the price and channels ! vmad.gif


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Source: Astro FB page

The Astro B.yond HD media launch just ended! The High Defininition service will launch on 18 December with:

Astro SuperSport HD
National Geographic Channel HD
History HD
HBO HD

while ESPN HD will be on air January 2010.

We'll also be the only one to broadcast all World Cup 2010 matches next year!
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I wonder how we subscribe ! vmad.gif

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I thought today they wld reveal the price and channels ! vmad.gif


Added on December 11, 2009, 1:41 pm
I wonder how we subscribe ! vmad.gif
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even the astro retailers themselfs had the slightest idea, when launching, registration processes, etc rclxub.gif
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got this reply on the FB page

AstroHello Adrian, we'll give you a new HD capable dish, decoder, and smartcard called B.yond in exchange for your old box for an additional RM 20 HD service fee per month. On other words, we'll change your entire setup for you.
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But other than the mentioned 4 channel, the rest will be in 4:3 ratio ??
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their official website for beyond still not launch yet.... rclxub.gif

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i called astro this morning around 10.45am to ask if i can change my philip decoder to thompson with component output... then dat lady mentioned astro b-yond just launch... here the details i got from her...

theres 3 options if want to convert to astro b-yond...

1) astro take back all the old decoder components (decoder, dish, remote control, card) and replace with the new astro b-yond and its cabling for free.
2) we can keep the old decoder and register for the new astro b-yond with rm80 payment... this option will allow us to use astro b-yond and also the old decoder to view astro... meaning we have 2 cards...
3) we can keep the old decoder for sentimental value and get the new astro b-yond for rm80... but we need to give back the astro card...

* the new astro b-yond card cannot work with the old decoder...
* the old decoder cannot work with the new astro b-yond dish...
* theres one year contract if we accept the astro b-yond... need to subscribe to at least one of the HD channel...

Astro SuperSport HD
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History HD
HBO HD
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Dec 11 2009, 02:38 PM)
i called astro this morning around 10.45am to ask if i can change my philip decoder to thompson with component output... then dat lady mentioned astro b-yond just launch... here the details i got from her...

theres 3 options if want to convert to astro b-yond...

1) astro take back all the old decoder components (decoder, dish, remote control, card) and replace with the new astro b-yond and its cabling for free.
2) we can keep the old decoder and register for the new astro b-yond with rm80 payment... this option will allow us to use astro b-yond and also the old decoder to view astro... meaning we have 2 cards...
3) we can keep the old decoder for sentimental value and get the new astro b-yond for rm80... but we need to give back the astro card...

* the new astro b-yond card cannot work with the old decoder...
* the old decoder cannot work with the new astro b-yond dish...
* theres one year contract if we accept the astro b-yond... need to subscribe to at least one of the HD channel...

Astro SuperSport HD
National Geographic Channel HD
History HD
HBO HD
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wah... thanks for the info... notworthy.gif
and when can the subscriber start to subscribe this new beyond...
i really interested with this beyond, but beyond can't do like what my current astro max can do...
beyond only have HD channel but beyond can't record astro programmes, rewind, pause live tv, doing slow motion.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 11 2009, 02:46 PM)
wah... thanks for the info... notworthy.gif
and when can the subscriber start to subscribe this new beyond...
i really interested with this beyond, but beyond can't do like what my current astro max can do...
beyond only have HD channel but beyond can't record astro programmes, rewind, pause live tv, doing slow motion....  sad.gif
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I read in this thread it says:

2. What is Astro B.yond?
Astro B.yond is the future of entertainment. It is a brand new offering in television broadcast
which offers the first ever High-Definition broadcast in Malaysia. For a start, five exclusive high
definition channels will be introduced at the time of launch, with more to come in the future.
With Astro B.yond, employees will be able to enjoy true high definition details such as with
superior resolution, sound and clarity. Astro B.yond will have future interactive features like
Personal Video Recording (PVR), new Electronic Programming Guide (EPG) and internet
connectivity.


Source: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1017325/+620


As for the subscription, we'll look and see. Today is just media launch and 18th is the official launch.

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Very true. However, not all have good deinterlacers.

One good example would be the Panny X and S series. They do not handle interlaced signals well....And most people in Malaysia have these sets and will complain when they get the Astro HD saying that the image is not as sharp as the expected....
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So, if we subscribe with Byond, do we still can watch our existing subscribed channels other than the HD channels???

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I might give it a try since my interest is more on watching NAT GEO and Sports.
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You can call Astro now to subscribe. I have done that . I swapped my exsisting Decorder and Dish for new one , no further fees except RM20 xtra for HD channels. Fixing apmt by the next 24 hours ! So what to wait for, fix it and lets test our HD sets I think its a fair deal to take rclxm9.gif ,
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 11 2009, 03:14 PM)
You can call Astro now to subscribe. I have done that . I swapped my exsisting Decorder and Dish for new one , no further fees except RM20 xtra for HD channels. Fixing apmt by the next 24 hours ! So what to wait for, fix it and lets test our HD sets I think its a fair deal to take rclxm9.gif ,
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Do you ask them whether you still can enjoy to watch your existing channel using the new decoder and dish?
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 11 2009, 02:46 PM)
wah... thanks for the info... notworthy.gif
and when can the subscriber start to subscribe this new beyond...
i really interested with this beyond, but beyond can't do like what my current astro max can do...
beyond only have HD channel but beyond can't record astro programmes, rewind, pause live tv, doing slow motion....  sad.gif
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Is it? you'll be surprised in future.  whistling.gif

I read in this thread it says:

2. What is Astro B.yond?
Astro B.yond is the future of entertainment. It is a brand new offering in television broadcast
which offers the first ever High-Definition broadcast in Malaysia. For a start, five exclusive high
definition channels will be introduced at the time of launch, with more to come in the future.
With Astro B.yond, employees will be able to enjoy true high definition details such as with
superior resolution, sound and clarity. Astro B.yond will have future interactive features like
Personal Video Recording (PVR), new Electronic Programming Guide (EPG) and internet
connectivity.
Source: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1017325/+620
As for the subscription, we'll look and see. Today is just media launch and 18th is the official launch.
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you can call astro now... i called this morning and subscribe right away.... talk to the lady for 25 minutes to ask questions bout this byond package...


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So, if we subscribe with Byond, do we still can watch our existing subscribed channels other than the HD channels???
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i think still can watch... if not, why they want to take our old decoder away...

QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 11 2009, 03:14 PM)
You can call Astro now to subscribe. I have done that . I swapped my exsisting Decorder and Dish for new one , no further fees except RM20 xtra for HD channels. Fixing apmt by the next 24 hours ! So what to wait for, fix it and lets test our HD sets I think its a fair deal to take rclxm9.gif ,
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yeah u rite smileguy... wat time u subscribe? cant wait to test the new byond... will be disappointment or otherwise??? but they said they will install it within the next 10days after their marketing department confirm with us regarding this byond... now waiting for them to call back...

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I just called Astro to enquire about Astro B.yond. Looks like for other channel without HD will be in aspect ratio of 4:3, so other than the listed channel with HD, you will still see "fat" people. But the Astro facebook mentioned that all will be in 16:9. rclxub.gif

According to the customer service, Astro B.yond doesn't have the recording function yet like astro max. And I also surprised to know that if you are Astro Max subscriber, you can't swap your decoder and dish for this Astro B.yond. [may be i understood wrongly]

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The site is working now.

http://www.astro.com.my/byond/
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Does anyone know if they will charge for the swapping of the dish? If they do, how much? Also, can anyone here confirm if it will be 720p or 1080i?
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They will swap your decoder and dish with installation fee of RM80

But you will need to add RM20/month for the subscription

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Does anyone know if they will charge for the swapping of the dish? If they do, how much? Also, can anyone here confirm if it will be 720p or 1080i?
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looks like it's a puny little dish. expect signal dropouts during raining.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:41 PM)
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looks like it's a puny little dish. expect signal dropouts during raining.
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Okay, now i know. They will charge rm80 for the installation of the new dish, and every month you pay an additional rm20. They are broadcasting in 1080i, so the question remains just badly my old 50" pv80h will perform in deinterlacing the signals.
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QUOTE(binary @ Dec 11 2009, 03:19 PM)
Do you ask them whether you still can enjoy to watch your existing channel using the new decoder and dish?
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Hi Jonathan, yes, of course the current channels that you've subscribed to (which is not in HD) will be available in the new B.yond HD decoder which we will give you for free in exchange of your old decoder. Cheers!
This is looking to be a good deal. Can change to the new decoder but still don't want to subscribe to their HD channels? tongue.gif
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if you look at that picture, with the relative size of the LNB feed horn and the dish, it looks damn small. don't expect it to be a >1meter dish.

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does all their HD channel have dobly digital surround sound? only astro supersport mention it.

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:41 PM)
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looks like it's a puny little dish. expect signal dropouts during raining.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 11 2009, 03:46 PM)
does all their HD channel have dobly digital surround sound? only astro supersport mention it.
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QUOTE(leecwai @ Dec 11 2009, 03:27 PM)
I just called Astro to enquire about Astro B.yond. Looks like for other channel without HD will be in aspect ratio of 4:3, so other than the listed channel with HD, you will still see "fat" people. But the Astro facebook mentioned that all will be in 16:9.  rclxub.gif
Does that mean 4:3 broadcast will have custom black bars for fitting 16:9 TV?
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Dec 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
From FB page
This is looking to be a good deal. Can change to the new decoder but still don't want to subscribe to their HD channels?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:46 PM)
if you look at that picture, with the relative size of the LNB feed horn and the dish, it looks damn small. don't expect it to be a >1meter dish.
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They will stretch 4:3 broadcast to fit the 16:9 TV.
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This will be the hottest topic for the next few days.
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here's a little quote from astro
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Q: Does the High-Definition service support surround sound?
A: Only certain High-Definition channels and programmes will be available in surround sound and compatible to Dolby Digital. Customers may need to connect the digital audio output from the box directly to their home theatre system that has a Dolby digital box.

imagine hooking up the stb to the tv with hdmi (does it carry video&audio or video only?)...your mom was watching a hd show with DD5.1 (does astro support DD5.1 or just marketing gimmick about surround sound?).....then she complain:"why this channel no sound?" tongue.gif doh.gif

do you think the stb support downmix of DD?

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as long as i can tell, the picture was superb...like u r watching at the tv shop with bd sample..
got smaller decoder(good), black color...i think the size in the picture is similar to the remote size...like in the picture..

got new menu interface

better quality

u will never regret to have one....(oni rm20 extra wut)

better picture quality

better sound quality
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For me the RM20 is a good deal, but my parents are hard to be convinced paying 20 bucks more for 3 better looking channels (only 3 since I don't subscribe to sports package). Looks like I'll be waiting until they launched more channels, hopefully on Movies package.
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For me the RM20 is a good deal, but my parents are hard to be convinced paying 20 bucks more for 3 better looking channels (only 3 since I don't subscribe to sports package). Looks like I'll be waiting until they launched more channels, hopefully on Movies package.
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Me too, especially when I can't record the show, my kids will virtually kill me if I change now. blush.gif
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does anyone have the model number for the decoder box... wondering if it is natively supported by Harmony remotes
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Its not just RM20. you have to pay extra for the 3 HD channels also. or 5 HD channels if you subscribe to all
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change now. Just a feeling.
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I already have HBO FullHD and Discovery FullHD long time ago. Its call WDTV Live rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Dec 11 2009, 04:02 PM)
I already have HBO FullHD and Discovery FullHD long time ago.  Its call WDTV Live  rclxms.gif
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Dilemma...Dilemma...Dilemma....

Should I upgrade to Astro B.yond or better buy a media player box sweat.gif
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before anyone asks any more questions, please read the FAQ

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Its not just RM20. you have to pay extra for the 3 HD channels also. or 5 HD channels if you subscribe to all
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What extra? Its only RM20 on top of your current subscription to get HD channles. Which channel you will get depend on what you subscribe. If let say for me its movies and learning so I will only get HBO, NatGeog and History. No other extra charges other than the RM20 per month on top of current subscription.

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Dec 11 2009, 04:04 PM)
What extra? Its only RM20 on top of your current subscription to get HD channles. Which channel you will get depend on what you subscribe. If let say for me its movies and learning so I will only get HBO, NatGeog and History. No other extra charges other than the RM20 per month on top of current subscription.
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From FB page
This is looking to be a good deal. Can change to the new decoder but still don't want to subscribe to their HD channels?  tongue.gif
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No, you can't.
Read the FAQ.

http://www.astro.com.my/byond/faq.asp

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I think as Astro has more HD channel, they will charge more. Hopefully they won't do that.  hmm.gif
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Yeah thats what I've been thinking. Afraid that the RM20 is only an early bird promotion. After more channels introduced, Astro will go crazy with their prices.

QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 11 2009, 04:07 PM)
No, you can't.
Read the FAQ.

http://www.astro.com.my/byond/faq.asp
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Yeah thats what I've been thinking. Afraid that the RM20 is only an early bird promotion. After more channels introduced, Astro will go crazy with their prices.
Yeah I know. Currently going through it  blush.gif
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Astro will be doing so brows.gif at the back when most of the people sign up with them. tongue.gif
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I wonder what other video output the decoder has.
Now, I can change channel from my bedroom. I doubt I can do that on this decoder.
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 11 2009, 04:18 PM)
I wonder what other video output the decoder has.
Now, I can change channel from my bedroom. I doubt I can do that on this decoder.
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white + red + yellow----wut they call this, composite rite?

Component output

HDMI output

USB

if not mistake la...
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white + red + yellow----wut they call this, composite rite?

Component output

HDMI output

USB

if not mistake la...
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Confirm? If got composite, can still change channel using the wireless AV to change channel from second TV.

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i found this in faq which i think is incorrect.

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i found this in faq which i think is incorrect.

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Confirm? If got composite, can still change channel using the wireless AV.
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I don't understand - what relevance does the TV output have with respect to your ability to change channels?

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I don't understand - what relevance does the TV output have with respect to your ability to change channels?
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To link to second TV.
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I don't even have basic AStro yet!!! doh.gif

And my plasma tv only have 3 HDMI....PS3, XBOX360, WDTV Live, DVD, and now Astro Byond. Where to connect? shakehead.gif
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I don't even have basic AStro yet!!! doh.gif

And my plasma tv only have 3 HDMI....PS3, XBOX360, WDTV Live, DVD, and now Astro Byond.  Where to connect? shakehead.gif
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hmm really temptinglah but most of the content in HBO or Nat Geo or History we can find on the NET with 1080p somemore hehe....

dunno worth it or not coz i just want to watch ESPN specially EPL in HD glory...sigh...

might need to downgrade current package...i want MTV and cartoon in HD too !
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World Cup in HD should be good.

but then..world cup time usually will go out mamak and watch while yumcha-ing with a couple of friends rclxm9.gif
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Astro will be doing so  brows.gif  at the back when most of the people sign up with them.  tongue.gif
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i spent 2 years looking for an optical - coaxial converter. No such luck sad.gif
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Hmmm eagerly waiting feedback from those that order early abut the quality..... waiting for my salary increment next month hehehe then will order astro HD
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now finally can afford. my old HITB onli has one optical and one coaxial.
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This one ah dude?
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I saw the demo at Astro centre. The new decoder is really small! Even smaller than the current one. Picture quality was nice too. Already applied for one, let's see how long it takes to arrive here!
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i hope they lay their hands off these hd channels from censorship (referring to HBO)... else its a big waste... censored hd channels =__=
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astro just call me regarding my application for b.yond... they said they can only process next tuesday and will call back next tuesday...

any of u guys who apply for b.yond get the same message?
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QUOTE(max211 @ Dec 11 2009, 03:03 PM)
Waahhh.. i'm so excited to finally be able to watch sports in HD.. hehe.. biggrin.gif  anyway, mr anfieldude, about the interlaced signal thingy, do u know how my system will perform, good/normal/poor? i'm using samsung series 5, 37" full hd set. thanks dude!  thumbup.gif

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So, if we subscribe with Byond, do we still can watch our existing subscribed channels other than the HD channels???
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Can. Quality will be better than s-video, component, composite as you'll be using HDMI. No more analog.

QUOTE(leecwai @ Dec 11 2009, 03:27 PM)
I just called Astro to enquire about Astro B.yond. Looks like for other channel without HD will be in aspect ratio of 4:3, so other than the listed channel with HD, you will still see "fat" people. But the Astro facebook mentioned that all will be in 16:9.  rclxub.gif

According to the customer service, Astro B.yond doesn't have the recording function yet like astro max. And I also surprised to know that if you are Astro Max subscriber, you can't swap your decoder and dish for this Astro B.yond. [may be i understood wrongly]
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Haiya. You want to swap ur max out? You can pay rm 80 and keep it. You can keep old smartcard but u have to pay more/2nd account. If I'm not mistaken the new smartcard cannot use on old box.


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Does anyone know if they will charge for the swapping of the dish? If they do, how much? Also, can anyone here confirm if it will be 720p or 1080i?
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No charge for dish swap. It would be in 1080i.

QUOTE(leecwai @ Dec 11 2009, 03:39 PM)
They will swap your decoder and dish with installation fee of RM80

But you will need to add RM20/month for the subscription
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No installation fee but yes add rm 20 to current sub. If u have movie and sport package in ur current sub, u can see hbo hd, supersport hd and espn hd.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:41 PM)
user posted image
looks like it's a puny little dish. expect signal dropouts during raining.
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QUOTE(binary @ Dec 11 2009, 03:44 PM)
Need to see the real  thing than only can comments about the size and quality. Hope the new dish can reduce the signal loss during raining  sweat.gif
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Yep. But signal strength depends on your dish alignment, LNB unit sensitivity, dish reflection, cable quality and length. Insist that the technician use spectrum analyzer to align ur dish. I might write a guide on my blog regarding rain fade.

QUOTE(barry @ Dec 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
Okay, now i know. They will charge rm80 for the installation of the new dish, and every month you pay an additional rm20. They are broadcasting in 1080i, so the question remains just badly my old 50" pv80h will perform in deinterlacing the signals.
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Dun worry you can change the STB settings to 720p and it will deinterlace for you.

QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Dec 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
From FB page
This is looking to be a good deal. Can change to the new decoder but still don't want to subscribe to their HD channels?  tongue.gif
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Cannot. No point of getting new box if didn't subscribe to HD.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 11 2009, 03:46 PM)
does all their HD channel have dobly digital surround sound? only astro supersport mention it.
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Depend on the source program. If it has, it has.

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Dec 11 2009, 03:47 PM)
Does that mean 4:3 broadcast will have custom black bars for fitting 16:9 TV?
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You can use black custom bar or you can stretch it into a fat man. Your choice.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:55 PM)
here's a little quote from astro

imagine hooking up the stb to the tv with hdmi (does it carry video&audio or video only?)...your mom was watching a hd show with DD5.1 (does astro support DD5.1 or just marketing gimmick about surround sound?).....then she complain:"why this channel no sound?" tongue.gif  doh.gif

do you think the stb support downmix of DD?
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No downmix. U need tv that support dolby or home theather system to hear dolby. Dolby is available on hdmi and spdif. If you didn't have the tv or home theather, you can get stereo through hdmi though or the red and white out.

QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 11 2009, 04:22 PM)
white + red + yellow----wut they call this, composite rite?

Component output

HDMI output

USB

if not mistake la...
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composite/rca.

Output? it got component, hdmi, spdif, composite. usb and ethernet is for input and other thing....



p/s: I got a unit with me. Wanna see the video and pic? BEG. Muahahahaha. brows.gif I'll post if I'm not lazy.

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I saw the demo at Astro centre. The new decoder is really small! Even smaller than the current one. Picture quality was nice too. Already applied for one, let's see how long it takes to arrive here!
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congratz...

so bro.... hows the 1080i HD demo??
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i hope they lay their hands off these hd channels from censorship (referring to HBO)... else its a big waste... censored hd channels =__=
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if my current setup , i have the astro going to my LCD monitor, then downstairs to my normal Flat screen crt TV, if subscribe to astro beyond, can i watch HD on my LCD monitor and still watch normal broadcast on my normal flat screen crt tv using the astro beyond 1 dish?
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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 11 2009, 05:58 PM)
if my current setup , i have the astro going to my LCD monitor, then downstairs to my normal Flat screen crt TV, if subscribe to astro beyond, can i watch HD on my LCD monitor and still watch normal broadcast on my normal flat screen crt tv using the astro beyond 1 dish?
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Astro to LCD using HDMI and Astro to CRT TV using composite or component. Can of course can. The analog output will display the same HD video in SD.
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the new box still have composite or component input ah? TQ
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Astro to LCD using HDMI and Astro to CRT TV using composite or component. Can of course can. The analog output will display the same HD video in SD.
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QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 11 2009, 05:50 PM)

p/s: I got a unit with me. Wanna see the video and pic? BEG. Muahahahaha.  brows.gif I'll post if I'm not lazy.
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Yes...surely I wanna to see it drool.gif can post some screen capture for astro byond.. i will really2 appreciate it...
hmm.gif i'm still thinking whether i should change my astro max to astro byond...

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ecam, show the pics video pls...lol i really wana see it...even though i've just called and subscribe to it lol
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can anyone post a picture of the back of the decoder? I wanna see what audio output Astro B.yond using
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 11 2009, 05:51 PM)
congratz...

so bro.... hows the 1080i HD demo??
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I don't know if it was in 720p or 1080i. All I know is that it look much better.

Actually, when I went to the Astro centre around 3pm, they have not set up the decoder. I told them if they know about the launch and they said they do but no idea when they can start registering. They told me to give them my number in case any news about HD registration.

So I went hang out for a while at a nearby shopping complex and at about 4pm to call me to let me know they have the demo unit ready for preview. I quickly rush back and lo & behold, HBO HD!! Saw the preview for Incredible Hulk, Shrek, all very sharp.


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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 11 2009, 06:16 PM)
ecam, show the pics video pls...lol i really wana see it...even though i've just called and subscribe to it lol
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I'll take the picture but please bear in mind that my camera is not HD.

QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Dec 11 2009, 06:20 PM)
can anyone post a picture of the back of the decoder? I wanna see what audio output Astro B.yond using
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It has this audio output:

HDMI

SPDIF Coaxial

Stereo Red and White Composite output
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Pls take notice that there is NO OPTICAL OUTPUT.
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I already submit the forms for subscribing astro beyond on their website...now waiting for their call... rclxms.gif
but, when the installer will come to my home and install the new dish, decoder?? I bet it will take a very long time since the service only start at 18 December...
And one other question, installation cost will be RM80, isn't it?

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I already submit the forms for subscribing astro beyond on their website...now waiting for their call...
but, when the installer will come to my home and install the new dish, decoder?? I bet it will take a very long time since the service only start at 18 December...
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They promise in 10 days from your registration. Good luck on it. Make sure the installer is official one and align your dish using proper spectrum analyzer. If he doesn't know about it, call back and insist.

If not you'll be having intermittent hd on cloudy day ( no rain yet ).


No installation cost if you swapped ur old box out. But if you want to keep ur old box, u need to pay rm 80. That's it. Dun kena conned that he took the box and ask u to pay rm80.

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can anyone gimme astro number?
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 06:31 PM)
can anyone gimme astro number?
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Astro Customer Service : 1-300-82-3838

For more info on Astro B.Yond or Astro HD, visit : http://www.astro.com.my/byond/index.asp

Forgot to say this, but if you live in condo or apartment and has centralized dish check with ur management if they oredi change it to new Astro one. If not, bug them out or ask them to allow installation of your own dish.

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by the way i got two questions hopefully someone can answer me:

1) is it compulsory to change to b.yond?
2) i read few page back that installation is rm 80 and include HDMI wiring but i am connecting one decoder to two tvs in two separate roooms, so they going to do both wiring for free? and if not, can i choose the length because it's up to me if my decoder in one room, tv another.

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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 06:38 PM)
by the way i got two questions hopefully someone can answer me:

1) is it compulsory to change to b.yond?
2) i read few page back that wiring is free but i am connecting one decoder to two tvs in two separate roooms, so they going to do it for free?
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Not compulsory. If you want subscribe to HD then u get the box.

They only do RF wiring from dish to your decoder. From decoder to TV is ur own.

Aiyoo I should be paid for providing customer advice.

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I managed to get the pictures of new dish and decoder...
all pictures are credit to BUDIEY.COM (http://www.budiey.com/astro-byond-high-definition-tv-pertama-dilancarkan/)

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[URL=i managed to get the pictures of new dish and decoder... all pictures are credit to BUDIEY.COM (http://www.budiey.com/astro-byond-high-definition-tv-pertama-dilancarkan/)]SOURCE[/URL]


Added on December 11, 2009, 6:54 pmwow... the dish look very greynish....


Added on December 11, 2009, 6:56 pm
QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 11 2009, 06:29 PM)
They promise in 10 days from your registration. Good luck on it. Make sure the installer is official one and align your dish using proper spectrum analyzer. If he doesn't know about it, call back and insist.

If not you'll be having intermittent hd on cloudy day ( no rain yet ).
No installation cost if you swapped ur old box out. But if you want to keep ur old box, u need to pay rm 80. That's it. Dun kena conned that he took the box and ask u to pay rm80.
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Ok... Thanks for your explaination..... notworthy.gif
I really appreciate it.....


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Is the 'Smart'card slotted all the way in or does it juts out like that?
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Now waiting for their call to install new decoder....hehe...Can't wait to see the quality of the channel... biggrin.gif
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Okay I called them.

They have 4 HDMI ports so no need splitter and you can connect up to 4 TV. According to them, HDMI wiring will be provided up to 20 feet. Extra 1 feet = RM 2.50.


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someone post detail front n back of the new decoder pls
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 11 2009, 06:52 PM)
I managed to get the pictures of new dish and decoder...
all pictures are credit to BUDIEY.COM (http://www.budiey.com/astro-byond-high-definition-tv-pertama-dilancarkan/)

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Added on December 11, 2009, 6:54 pmwow... the dish look very greynish....


Added on December 11, 2009, 6:56 pm

Ok... Thanks for your explaination.....  notworthy.gif
I really appreciate it.....
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That is the exact same unit that I saw at Astro today!
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 04:36 PM)
there is such product. but it'll cost a bomb.
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thats why i'm always a fan of digital coaxial...using long runs rg6 also can...all my sources are now in coaxial...dont think there's difference in quality if we wanna compare it to optical


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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 07:04 PM)
Okay I called them.

They have 4 HDMI ports so no need splitter and you can connect up to 4 TV. According to them, HDMI wiring will be provided up to 20 feet. Extra 1 feet = RM 2.50.
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Hard to believe the decoder got 4 HDMI ports.
The 20 feet wiring is the coaxial cable, not HDMI.
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Now considering my option now as I dun subscribe to movie package (thus not able to enjoy HBO) and hardly watch National Geographic.

So extra RM20 a month for sport channel? ehm........
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 11 2009, 07:58 PM)
Hard to believe the decoder got 4 HDMI ports.
The 20 feet wiring is the coaxial cable, not HDMI.
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That's what I thought. Becuase HDMI cables are impossible to be that cheap. : /

BTW, Devil, you subscribing? Can help me ask your technician who help you install? The Astro hotline half-past-six lah.
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QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 11 2009, 06:22 PM)
I'll take the picture but please bear in mind that my camera is not HD.
It has this audio output:

HDMI

SPDIF Coaxial

Stereo Red and White Composite output
____________________________________________

Pls take notice that there is NO OPTICAL OUTPUT.
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T.T i prefer optical output

btw, is coaxial cable be given?
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 11 2009, 05:39 PM)
i hope they lay their hands off these hd channels from censorship (referring to HBO)... else its a big waste... censored hd channels =__=
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dream on.


QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 11 2009, 05:50 PM)
p/s: I got a unit with me. Wanna see the video and pic? BEG. Muahahahaha.  brows.gif I'll post if I'm not lazy.
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what is the manufacturer and model number please... need to check on Harmony support
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Dec 11 2009, 07:01 PM)
Is the 'Smart'card slotted all the way in or does it juts out like that?
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Wat do u think?

QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 07:04 PM)
Okay I called them.

They have 4 HDMI ports so no need splitter and you can connect up to 4 TV. According to them, HDMI wiring will be provided up to 20 feet. Extra 1 feet = RM 2.50.
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Oiyoo u sure u call them?

QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Dec 11 2009, 08:21 PM)
T.T i prefer optical output

btw, is coaxial cable be given?
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Nope

QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 11 2009, 08:30 PM)
dream on.
what is the manufacturer and model number please... need to check on Harmony support
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I don't think it got harmony support yet.
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QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 11 2009, 08:39 PM)
Wat do u think?
Oiyoo u sure u call them?
Nope
I don't think it got harmony support yet.
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If he knows he don't need to ask la, what a douchebag. doh.gif
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If he knows he don't need to ask la, what a douchebag.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 08:05 PM)
That's what I thought. Becuase HDMI cables are impossible to be that cheap. : /

BTW, Devil, you subscribing? Can help me ask your technician who help you install? The Astro hotline half-past-six lah.
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Not subscribing yet....in the process of moving house. smile.gif
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sorry if you find the code reduces your viewing experience, but we will still have to put it there as part of the security measure. Thanks for understanding!
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Dec 11 2009, 08:53 PM)
sorry if you find the code reduces your viewing experience, but we will still have to put it there as part of the security measure. Thanks for understanding!
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are u a person from astro? biggrin.gif
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Any1 know the pricing for new installation? And how much will the cheapest package cost? I bought a HDTV for a few months dy, surviving only on dloaded movies only, just waiting for Astro to launch thier HD service before I suscribe.
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Oh no, gonna move into new place. Just passed by and it seems like the condo using centralised dish. Hope it does support B.yond without extensive upgrade needed.
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If you are new to Astro and would like to get the new Astro B.yond Box and subsequently view the High-Definition channels, you will have to sign up for the current Astro standard definition packages while we process your application for Astro B.yond. In the meantime, you will receive a standard definition Astro decoder. Once the Astro B.yond Box is available, we will call you to arrange for an exchange.


So troublesome doh.gif Have to exchange even it's new.
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suddenly lost interest in this liao...my condo using centralised dish, quite sure its not byond cos it was ready more than 1 year ago...pretty sure management wont allow me to install my own dish

Reinstallation & recabling between next 18-24months...hrrmmmm...feeling so so blue...but will still give it a shot coming monday...will check with managements & see what can be done...

Blue blue blue.....
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I called Astro, they said it is compulssory to take back the old decoder and dish and replace with new one. They said can't keep your old dish and decoder.
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 11 2009, 10:36 PM)
I called Astro, they said it is compulssory to take back the old decoder and dish and replace with new one. They said can't keep your old dish and decoder.
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i think you can keep your old decoder and dish... but need to pay RM80 to the installer that come to ur house....
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You will receive the Astro B.yond Box, a new smartcard, a new outdoor dish unit (ODU), new remote control, and HDMI cables free of charge, on the condition that you return your current Astro box and commit to take up the high definition channels at RM20.00 per month, for a minimum of 12 months, which will allow you to enjoy the high definition channels of the standard definition channels available on your current subscription. If you want to keep your current Astro box, you are required to pay a RM80.00 standard installation fee.
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I don't mind giving away my dish and decoder. Both are old and perform poorly.
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 11 2009, 10:55 PM)
I don't mind giving away my dish and decoder. Both are old and perform poorly.
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yea...why to keep anyway.
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Wat do u think?
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I think for someone who seems to have answers to everything here, I expect a more conclusive response from you.
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I'll subscribe it just for the sports and hbo package. Need a new TV though.. haih.
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QUOTE(GothFebrio @ Dec 11 2009, 10:54 PM)
If you want to keep your current Astro box, you are required to pay a RM80.00 standard installation fee.
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If i keep the old decoder will I get to keep the smartcard too? And will it continue to work with b.yond new dish?

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QUOTE(nyem @ Dec 12 2009, 01:01 AM)
If i keep the old decoder will I get to keep the smartcard too? And will it continue to work with b.yond new dish?
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I think I read somewhere that they will give you a new smart card. The old one will probably be disabled.
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So guys, which would be better?1080p or 720p HDTV?
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So guys, which would be better?1080p or 720p HDTV?
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1080p of course. But Astro only does 720p and 1080i.

Only way you can get 1080p is via blu-ray or high def movie downloads.
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i think you can keep your old decoder and dish... but need to pay RM80 to the installer that come to ur house....
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No I specifically mentioned to pay RM80 and get new decoder and dish. The girl said no, and then went to consult someone else. She came back and said there is no such thing, she confirmed MUST take back all the old stuff.


Added on December 12, 2009, 1:41 am
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You will receive the Astro B.yond Box, a new smartcard, a new outdoor dish unit (ODU), new remote control, and HDMI cables free of charge, on the condition that you return your current Astro box and commit to take up the high definition channels at RM20.00 per month, for a minimum of 12 months, which will allow you to enjoy the high definition channels of the standard definition channels available on your current subscription. If you want to keep your current Astro box, you are required to pay a RM80.00 standard installation fee.
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QUOTE(GothFebrio @ Dec 11 2009, 10:57 PM)
yea...why to keep anyway.
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I was thinking so that I can install the new decoder for my upstairs LCD TV (for Sports only) and downstairs no change using old dish and decoder for old SD TV for those watching Chinese Drama series.

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1080p of course. But Astro only does 720p and 1080i.

Only way you can get 1080p is via blu-ray or high def movie downloads.
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But i'm sure u know that watching 720p on a 1080p tv wouldn't be as good as 720p on 720p.That's what i'm asking.
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sometime astro staff don't read their own FAQ, or may be they change their terms without notice rclxub.gif
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Yes I mentioned that I read in their website about paying RM80 and keeping old decoder, yet she said no such thing.

Maybe what they meant was they will take back the old satellite dish so that you can't use the old (for the old TV) and new (for another HD TV in another part of the house) together.

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i hope they lay their hands off these hd channels from censorship (referring to HBO)... else its a big waste... censored hd channels =__=
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the thing is everyting is free, but installation is RM80.

How much will it cost to sign up for Astro B.yond?
The Astro B.yond Box, the remote control, the Outside Dish Unit (ODU), and HDMI cable will be available for free. However, an RM80.00 installation fee will be charged on top of the RM20.00 monthly access fee for the High-Definition channels.
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As one of the 'loyal' and 'pioneer' subscribers, Astro should give a 'no extra fee' on HD as credit to their support and loyalty.

Please tell me if it is fair as following:

1) Existing Astro subscriber (One month ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

2) Existing Astro subscriber (Three years ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

3) Existing Astro subscriber (Five years ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

Please put some serious thought on the above.
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Dec 12 2009, 04:24 AM)
As one of the 'loyal' and 'pioneer' subscribers, Astro should give a 'no extra fee' on HD as credit to their support and loyalty.

Please tell me if it is fair as following:

1) Existing Astro subscriber (One month ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

2) Existing Astro subscriber (Three years ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

3) Existing Astro subscriber (Five years ago) - Free upgrade to Astro B.yond and RM 20 per months (12 months contract)

Please put some serious thought on the above.
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Bro AStro is always the winner ! As far HD is concerned all are new customers !! See from that point ! So all are tied as newbies, By the way when did Astro ever valued its customers ? Even phone companies have started giving discounts for Auto Debit and prompt monthly payments but I paid my bills promptly for 12 over years Astro doent care I am still a new customer on the waiting list ! vmad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Dec 12 2009, 02:08 AM)
Yes I mentioned that I read in their website about paying RM80 and keeping old decoder, yet she said no such thing.

Maybe what they meant was they will take back the old satellite dish so that you can't use the old (for the old TV)  and new (for another HD TV in another part of the house) together.
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bro....better check out properly 1st....

if you subscribe to HD channel, your old card will be diasbled cause you only have one account to switch over

if you want to keep the old one you must have 2 accounts, means double the $$$
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But i'm sure u know that watching 720p on a 1080p tv wouldn't be as good as 720p on 720p.That's what i'm asking.
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Why would a 1080p TV would not be as good as a 720p TV when watching 720p channel? Both are having the same aspect ratio.
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 12 2009, 06:00 AM)
Bro AStro is always the winner ! As far HD is concerned all are new customers  !! See from that point ! So all are tied as newbies, By the way when did Astro ever valued its customers ? Even  phone companies  have started giving discounts for  Auto Debit and prompt monthly payments but I paid my bills promptly for 12 over years Astro doent care I am still a new customer on the waiting list ! vmad.gif  mad.gif
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In that case I also 'Potong' laugh.gif
Bite the bullet and pay RM10 to downgrade, now only have basic asstro subscription. No need to watch censored HD with advertisement.
Already watching uncensored HD content without advertisement, and when I want it! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 12 2009, 06:00 AM)
Bro AStro is always the winner ! As far HD is concerned all are new customers  !! See from that point ! So all are tied as newbies, By the way when did Astro ever valued its customers ? Even  phone companies  have started giving discounts for  Auto Debit and prompt monthly payments but I paid my bills promptly for 12 over years Astro doent care I am still a new customer on the waiting list ! vmad.gif  mad.gif
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That is the thing that I don't understand about Astro. They should encourage auto debit and customer paid in advance. Instead, they took away the bonuslink points and now does not give any benefit if customer wants to pay quaterly or annually. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 12 2009, 08:10 AM)
In that case I also 'Potong' laugh.gif
Bite the bullet and pay RM10 to downgrade, now only have basic asstro subscription. No need to watch censored HD with advertisement.
Already watching uncensored HD content without advertisement, and when I want it! laugh.gif
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That is the thing that I don't understand about Astro. They should encourage auto debit and customer paid in advance. Instead, they took away the bonuslink points and now does not give any benefit if customer wants to pay quaterly or annually.  rclxub.gif
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haiya... what the fuss.... POTONG la...

pay RM30/mth to rent a DL server.... save the balance $$$

you can download as many HD content as you like... haha haha...

joke joke only ar.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 12 2009, 08:10 AM)
In that case I also 'Potong' laugh.gif
Bite the bullet and pay RM10 to downgrade, now only have basic asstro subscription. No need to watch censored HD with advertisement.
Already watching uncensored HD content without advertisement, and when I want it! laugh.gif
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but HD sport channels really tempted... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GothFebrio @ Dec 12 2009, 02:22 AM)
the thing is everyting is free, but installation is RM80.

How much will it cost to sign up for Astro B.yond?
The Astro B.yond Box, the remote control, the Outside Dish Unit (ODU), and HDMI cable will be available for free. However, an RM80.00 installation fee will be charged on top of the RM20.00 monthly access fee for the High-Definition channels.
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No installation is also free for now, but they will take back the old decoder and dish.
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Why would a 1080p TV would not be as good as a 720p TV when watching 720p channel? Both are having the same aspect ratio.
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LOL isn't it obvious?The PQ wouldn't be as sharp as 720p on 720p.Just the same concept as playing 640x480 video on a 1920x1080 resolution...the video gets more pixelated
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Pictures of Astro HD decoder here. Front and back.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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are u a person from astro?  biggrin.gif
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I'm just concerned that some of the movies in HBO are not even in original HD resolution.But they will be upscaled?
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IMHO, its not worth paying for HD channels except for ardent sports viewers. the other channel content are mostly repeats and are good enough as SD.

the other issue is whether the HD content is upscaled from SD?
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LOL isn't it obvious?The PQ wouldn't be as sharp as 720p on 720p.Just the same concept as playing 640x480 video on a 1920x1080 resolution...the video gets more pixelated
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1.Are u sure the 720p tv u have is a true 1280x720p? Where u have 1:1 pixel mapping?
2. 640x480 is 4-3 ratio. 1920x1080 tv is 16-9. Surely some horizontal stretching required.
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Pictures of Astro HD decoder here. Front and back.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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Wonder the RJ45 (network) port is for what purpose ?
Just call up ASTRO, extra decoder have to pay RM20 per month as well. Meaning, if you have 2nd decoder (which you pay half of the master unit subscription fee), you need to pay extra RM40/month. rclxub.gif
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Pictures of Astro HD decoder here. Front and back.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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Its got a network port and a USB port. Wonder what is that for. hmm.gif
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Its got a network port and a USB port.  Wonder what is that for. hmm.gif
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USB port = Digital video recording

Its a guess lah
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the usb means we can attach a USB HDD and records? coz i saw REC words on the decoder?
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1.Are u sure the 720p tv u have is a true 1280x720p? Where u have 1:1 pixel mapping?
2. 640x480 is 4-3 ratio. 1920x1080 tv is 16-9. Surely some horizontal stretching required.
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My bad..

Should have said "800x480 on a 1080p TV"
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the usb means we can attach a USB HDD and records? coz i saw REC words on the decoder?
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So far any other review?

Wonder able to share this decoder with 2 TV or not? hmm.gif
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Astro agent called me today. Says something about contacting me again on the 17th Dec. I ask how long does it take for them to process the registration to installing the dish, and they said 14 days.
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Astro agent called me today. Says something about contacting me again on the 17th Dec. I ask how long does it take for them to process the registration to installing the dish, and they said 14 days.
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yes... same with me..
they also called me and said that they only will process my application for beyond on 15 December (Tuesday)..
and anytime within 2 weeks from 15 December, the installer will call me and install it.... smile.gif .
so, i assume, i only will get astro beyond at the end of december or probably within the first week of January 2010... sweat.gif
i will miss my astro max... it has served me very well... cry.gif

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So far any other review?

Wonder able to share this decoder with 2 TV or not? hmm.gif
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Should be no problem but need something like this - HUM AV Transmitter AV-02X

http://www.moresales.com.my/catalog/entry/pyfnbkab.shtml
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oh it takes so long to get astro byond....? then good news for me... if it comes before 21st...i'm gonna be so dead...exam is up and i will not be able to concentrate tongue.gif
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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 12 2009, 07:57 AM)
bro....better check out properly 1st....

if you subscribe to HD channel, your old card will be diasbled cause you only have one account to switch over

if you want to keep the old one you must have 2 accounts, means double the $$$
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 12 2009, 08:08 AM)
Why would a 1080p TV would not be as good as a 720p TV when watching 720p channel? Both are having the same aspect ratio.
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I'm just concerned that some of the movies in HBO are not even in original HD resolution.But they will be upscaled?
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not even in original HD resolution? You mean 720p? or 576i? then it will be upscaled.

QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
IMHO, its not worth paying for HD channels except for ardent sports viewers. the other channel content are mostly repeats and are good enough as SD.

the other issue is whether the HD content is upscaled from SD?
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Nope. HD content will come from HD content. Upscale has its limit.

QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 12 2009, 10:48 AM)
Wonder the RJ45 (network) port is for what purpose ?
Just call up ASTRO, extra decoder have to pay RM20 per month as well. Meaning, if you have 2nd decoder (which you pay half of the master unit subscription fee), you need to pay extra RM40/month.  rclxub.gif
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Think it like this. You're rent the box actually. It has lifetime warranty and u need to surrender it back when u stop subscribe just like screamyx. Read the fine print. Its there.

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 12 2009, 11:58 AM)
So far any other review?

Wonder able to share this decoder with 2 TV or not? hmm.gif
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Can share with 3 TV actually. 1 HDMI, 1 composite and 1 component or you can buy HDMI splitter which cause about rm300 cheapest to rm800 a good one which can split to 4 TV from 1 box and all using HDMI. The only issue is getting the long HDMI cable which would be costly. And you can watch World Cup HD all in its glory while answering nature call.

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Yep.
not even in original HD resolution? You mean 720p? or 576i? then it will be upscaled.
Nope. HD content will come from HD content. Upscale has its limit.
Think it like this. You're rent the box actually. It has lifetime warranty and u need to surrender it back when u stop subscribe just like screamyx. Read the fine print. Its there.
Can share with 3 TV actually. 1 HDMI, 1 composite and 1 component or you can buy HDMI splitter which cause about rm300 cheapest to rm800 a good one which can split to 4 TV from 1 box and all using HDMI. The only issue is getting the long HDMI cable which would be costly. And you can watch World Cup HD all in its glory while answering nature call.
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I wonder will the other channel quality be upscale by the box or the signal be better even during heavy clouds cover aka heavy rain?
Can share with 3 TV actually &or with HDMI splitter , thanks but how about control?
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ds830 from pace does not seem to be PVR capable
http://www.pace.com/corporate/products/pro...dType=DSAT#DSAT

so will astro introduce another record-capable sat receiver, such as Pace TDS865?

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Anybody can recommend me a good panel below 2K? 3K would do too, but needs a lot of thinking and budgeting first. Below 2K would get me max 720p, but good enough I guess for Astro HD. I'm really tempted by BPL, World Cup and NatGeo in HD.
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Anybody can recommend me a good panel below 2K? 3K would do too, but needs a lot of thinking and budgeting first. Below 2K would get me max 720p, but good enough I guess for Astro HD. I'm really tempted by BPL, World Cup and NatGeo in HD.
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Can we leave out discussion about what HDTV to get ? There is plenty of such thread under Home Entertainment. This thread is about Astro HD.
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the introduction of astroB.yond definitely spur recovery of economy, people are lining up to purchase HDTV

for the potential HDTV buyer, just go out and view the HDTV demo yourself, then pick the one you like most, they are now priced very attractively

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ds830 from pace does not seem to be PVR capable
http://www.pace.com/corporate/products/pro...dType=DSAT#DSAT

so will astro introduce another record-capable sat receiver, such as Pace TDS865?
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why u mention pace? astro stb made from pace? or you know where to buy pace?
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why u mention pace? astro stb made from pace? or you know where to buy pace?
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Just got back from an astro center. According to the CS over there, actually they planned to launch the HD next year, but then they canceled it and launch this year due to another provider also wants to launch HD service. Dont know which provider actually. Do we have another provider??

When i asked which provider the CS refuse to tell me and told me to read in the news instead. I guess Astro just wanna be the 1st.. hehe...
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QUOTE(ahhazazi @ Dec 12 2009, 07:02 PM)
Just got back from an astro center. According to the CS over there, actually they planned to launch the HD next year, but then they canceled it and launch  this year due to another provider also wants to launch HD service. Dont know which provider actually. Do we have another provider??

When i asked which provider the CS refuse to tell me and told me to read in the news instead. I guess Astro just wanna be the 1st.. hehe...
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I am quite sure the provider is TM. With their HSBB + IPTV currently in Friendy User Testing phase and commercial launch in March/April 2010. smile.gif
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Called up Astro customer service to apply, supposed to get a call in 24hrs.

They did inform me the contents are limited for each HD channel. Which means there won't as much movies as in normal HBO.

I dun expect much anyways. Cant wait for the HD quality though happy.gif
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Got one question, just now tried the b.yond at astro center and realize the PQ was good for HD but when i change to SD channel it seems that the aspect ratio was wrong. Got two black bars left and right. Tried to change the aspect ratio using astro remote but its not working. Do we have to live with these 2 black bars??
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the aspect ratio is correct because SD channels are all broadcasted 4:3 for astro...of course there are some rare exception when the content is 16:9 they still broadcast it as 4:3...

btw, where is the astro center with byond? i want to go check out the demo too~!
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QUOTE(ahhazazi @ Dec 12 2009, 07:46 PM)
Got one question, just now tried the b.yond at astro center and realize the PQ was good for HD but when i change to SD channel it seems that the aspect ratio was wrong. Got two black bars left and right. Tried to change the aspect ratio using astro remote but its not working. Do we have to live with these 2 black bars??
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Well, if TV broadcast doesn't aired by proper 16:9 instead of letterbox 4:3, it'll be good enough.. unsure.gif

Refer to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillar_box_(film)

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 12 2009, 08:06 PM)
the aspect ratio is correct because SD channels are all broadcasted 4:3 for astro...of course there are some rare exception when the content is 16:9 they still broadcast it as 4:3...

btw, where is the astro center with byond? i want to go check out the demo too~!
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so if i were to view the SD channels, i have to view with the two black bars la?? Now thats just annoying!

hehe.. i'm in Kota bharu, the demo unit at KB astro center...
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i'll subscribe this monday...top up another rm20 /month is worth it...
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the usb means we can attach a USB HDD and records? coz i saw REC words on the decoder?
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Stupid thing is that if you only have the sports package, you will get 2 HD channels but still have to fork out RM20 monthly.

Astro.... Money grabbing cunts!
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so if i were to view the SD channels, i have to view with the two black bars la?? Now thats just annoying!

hehe.. i'm in Kota bharu, the demo unit at KB astro center...
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Of course lah. Even current Astro shows two black bars unless you set your tv to stretch. This has all to do with the 4:3 aspect ratio commonly used on most SD transmission. doh.gif
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It seems you have to manually change through the setting each time you view HD and SD channels. A quick button will be available in the future lol
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 12 2009, 09:09 PM)
Of course lah. Even current Astro shows two black bars unless you set your tv to stretch. This has all to do with the 4:3 aspect ratio commonly used on most SD transmission.  doh.gif
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means if we set the tv ar to 16:9 then it will be good then? rolleyes.gif
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ahh, the black bars mean that is is the CORRECT aspect ratio. Anyway there is a setting in the menu that changes this for the SD channels and stretches the picture to full frame.

Personally I can't stand a distorted picture and always have the black bars down the sides of SD broadcasts.

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I've checked (I've got a tester box) there is a setting called "conversion for 4:3 input video" this means that should you choose to have your SD channels stretched it will do it and not affect the HD channels

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according to the star newspaper today, astro says planning to introduce 5 HD channels next year. OMG 5 only? doh.gif shakehead.gif
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well, now got 4 already, if they introduce 5 next year.... its 9 lol... no?
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Will you guys hold on.....

If tmnut introduce HSBB and IPTV service,then it is better.

Can enjoy high speed broadband and at the same time high quality HD tv.
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you have to understand one thing, yes tmnut introduces IPTV... but what will be the contents/channels that they could offer? So many channels were taken by astro as exclusive broadcast rights in Malaysia. If they offer similar channel line up like MiTV....then its as good as bye bye...

HSBB wise... i wonder how fast and where is it available...if they are using HSBB to broadcast IPTV, their potential customers will be limited by the available service area, which is quite limited for now.
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QUOTE(jake23 @ Dec 12 2009, 11:08 PM)
Will you guys hold on.....

If tmnut introduce HSBB and IPTV service,then it is  better.

Can enjoy high speed broadband and at the same time high quality HD tv.
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The rate TM are going Astro will have IPTV before them and the new box is set for it. It will come down to who has the better content to watch. What channels will TM have?
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anybody test it?
how is the quality?
if i watch SD progamme by Astro B.yond,
is it i have to change the setting,
or it has a setting like "conversion for 4:3 input video" and i still can watch programme by 16:9 ratio?

and also,
if i watch the non HD programme,
the quality will be better than now or not?

i am using HD ready LCD tv with HDMI input,
sure i can get much better quality with Astro B.yond,
right?

my tv doesnt have s-video input,
and i am using component tv as well... sad.gif

sorry for so much question,
but i hope to know more before i take action.

ps: from their website, we have to pay RM80 for the installation fee, is it true?
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 12 2009, 11:22 PM)
you have to understand one thing, yes tmnut introduces IPTV... but what will be the contents/channels that they could offer? So many channels were taken by astro as exclusive broadcast rights in Malaysia. If they offer similar channel line up like MiTV....then its as good as bye bye...

HSBB wise... i wonder how fast and where is it available...if they are using HSBB to broadcast IPTV, their potential customers will be limited by the available service area, which is quite limited for now.
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if TM cannot get some popular sport live broadcast and quality movie and tv channel they can close shop in a few month. the sport broadcast are more tricky where as movie and tv programming can be done by the station themself even they cannot get HBO or AXN
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 12 2009, 11:22 PM)
you have to understand one thing, yes tmnut introduces IPTV... but what will be the contents/channels that they could offer? So many channels were taken by astro as exclusive broadcast rights in Malaysia. If they offer similar channel line up like MiTV....then its as good as bye bye...

HSBB wise... i wonder how fast and where is it available...if they are using HSBB to broadcast IPTV, their potential customers will be limited by the available service area, which is quite limited for now.
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Do you have the list of channels which Astro have EXCLUSIVE rights?
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I don't have it, but I do remember that these were the few (correct me if i'm wrong):
MTVasia
All STARTV channels available on astro--> this is good enough to kill the deal
HBO?
All TVB related channels/medias



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Astro's IPTV our copper lines got enough bandwidth for HD or only SD?

Astro will probably need to tap into HSBB to offer IPTV though.

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QUOTE(jake23 @ Dec 12 2009, 11:08 PM)
Will you guys hold on.....

If tmnut introduce HSBB and IPTV service,then it is  better.

Can enjoy high speed broadband and at the same time high quality HD tv.
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You got to be kidding! TMNut can't even support 1Mbps wants to do IPTV!
On paper it looks great only but in real life TMNut needs to throttle and shape traffic!
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when watch SD chanel will clearer than now?
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when watch SD chanel will clearer than now?
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I think PQ should be the same as before for SD contents. Unless the box has an excellent built-in scaler. But I doubt it would be any better than most good branded plasma/lcd TV.


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I don't have it, but I do remember that these were the few (correct me if i'm wrong):
MTVasia
All STARTV channels available on astro--> this is good enough to kill the deal
HBO?
All TVB related channels/medias
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I think all EPL games are exclusive to Astro also.

And... the have rights for ALL the world cup games next year.

Practically, Astro is pretty invincible now.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 13 2009, 06:45 AM)
You got to be kidding! TMNut can't even support 1Mbps wants to do IPTV!
On paper it looks great only but in real life TMNut needs to throttle and shape traffic!
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QUOTE(putih @ Dec 13 2009, 09:57 AM)
I think PQ should be the same as before for SD contents. Unless the box has an excellent built-in scaler. But I doubt it would be any better than most good branded plasma/lcd TV.


Added on December 13, 2009, 10:00 am

I think all EPL games are exclusive to Astro also.

And... the have rights for ALL the world cup games next year.

Practically, Astro is pretty invincible now.
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Well, TM can always lease from ESPN, etc right
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i dont think so... because ESPN gets EPL matches...unless they take ESPN phillipines....american football only lol....
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Well, ESPN gets EPL matches, so TM IP just have to lease from ESPN la, include ESPN channel.
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Well, TM can always lease from ESPN, etc right
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I don't think that's how it works nowadays - they each bid for exclusive rights to broadcast EPL and it's given to the highest bidder, as usual. So this is what Singtel did and now SG punters have to subscribe to two monopolies. Competition? what competition...

Same for World Cup and other big events

In the end, the highest bidder wins all the rights, and guess who will have to pay for it?


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it doesnt work that way, ESPN get EPL matches, but ESPN is part of STARTV too...


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I don't think that's how it works nowadays - they each bid for exclusive rights to broadcast EPL and it's given to the highest bidder, as usual. So this is what Singtel did and now SG punters have to subscribe to two monopolies. Competition? what competition...

Same for World Cup and other big events

In the end, the highest bidder wins all the rights, and guess who will have to pay for it?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 13 2009, 06:45 AM)
You got to be kidding! TMNut can't even support 1Mbps wants to do IPTV!
On paper it looks great only but in real life TMNut needs to throttle and shape traffic!
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i agree,
i don think we can get better quality of IPTV from TMNut,
nowadays we even cant get a satisfy speed from them for normal download..

by the way,
any review of Astro B.yond?
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You got to be kidding! TMNut can't even support 1Mbps wants to do IPTV!
On paper it looks great only but in real life TMNut needs to throttle and shape traffic!
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ya. even youtube lags. doh.gif
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i agree,
i don think we can get better quality of IPTV from TMNut,
nowadays we even cant get a satisfy speed from them for normal download..

by the way,
any review of Astro B.yond?
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They just called me this morning. I registered on 11-12-09. To them this is what they meant within 24hrs!! Now the story is " we will call again before 15-12-09 to confirm the order and installation will be 14 days from the said confirmation ! Thats Asstro !! Throw also cannot cos its an Ass!! rclxm9.gif
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Astro b.yond is limited channel only. So i will wait until more channel open up on that HD then is worth it.
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 13 2009, 12:34 PM)
They just called me this morning. I registered on 11-12-09. To them this is what they meant within 24hrs!! Now the story is " we will call again  before 15-12-09 to confirm the order and  installation will be 14 days from the said confirmation ! Thats Asstro !! Throw also cannot cos its an Ass!! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 13 2009, 12:34 PM)
They just called me this morning. I registered on 11-12-09. To them this is what they meant within 24hrs!! Now the story is " we will call again  before 15-12-09 to confirm the order and  installation will be 14 days from the said confirmation ! Thats Asstro !! Throw also cannot cos its an Ass!! rclxm9.gif
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have to wait so long?

by the way,
is it we can watch all programme on HBO HD,
or only for the selected HD movies,
the rest we have to turn back to HBO SD channel?

and i wonder,
RM20 is for all HD channels,
or the price will increase if Astro provide more HD channels in the future?

this is Astro style... sad.gif
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if your old astro subscription does not include movie, learning or sports package, then you will have zero HD channel available for you to watch even if you pay RM20 on top of old subscription fee rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 13 2009, 02:26 PM)
if your old astro subscription does not include movie, learning or sports package, then you will have zero HD channel available for you to watch even if you pay RM20 on top of old subscription fee rolleyes.gif
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i know this,
i have movie and documentary package....

waiting for the result on the quality of SD channel with astro hd decorder.. biggrin.gif
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i know this,
i have movie and documentary package....

waiting for the result on the quality of SD channel with astro hd decorder..  biggrin.gif
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I'm expecting when one buys a 1080p TV, the quality of the HD channels would be good but the other channels would be worst unless they are gonna be upscaled
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I'm expecting when one buys a 1080p TV, the quality of the HD channels would be good but the other channels would be worst unless they are gonna be upscaled
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this is what we cannot know:
is it the SD channel will be upscaled?
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this is what we cannot know:
is it the SD channel will be upscaled?
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if the HD box doesn't do upscale, your HDTV will upscale the digital signal
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QUOTE(ahhazazi @ Dec 12 2009, 07:46 PM)
Got one question, just now tried the b.yond at astro center and realize the PQ was good for HD but when i change to SD channel it seems that the aspect ratio was wrong. Got two black bars left and right. Tried to change the aspect ratio using astro remote but its not working. Do we have to live with these 2 black bars??
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You have the option to set to stretch (zoom) for full screen on your decoder for 4:3 content. You can find the setting under Home- > Setting - > Installation Setting - > TV Setting. In January 2010, we will have the short cut key available on the remote control with sign icon to toggle between pillar boxes and stretch option.
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have to wait so long?

by the way,
is it we can watch all programme on HBO HD,
or only for the selected HD movies,
the rest we have to turn back to HBO SD channel?

and i wonder,
RM20 is for all HD channels,
or the price will increase if Astro provide more HD channels in the future?

this is Astro style... sad.gif
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HBO HD is a channel by itself .You can check out hboasia HD website and get the Singapore schedule whcih wld be ours too later. you may go to starhub.sg and get all the HD channel schedules. icon_rolleyes.gif


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Astro b.yond is limited channel only. So i will wait until more channel open up on that HD then is worth it.
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Well friend HD content is limited. Astro loves asian versions so there arent much more choices. Most likely to come soon Discovery, Natgeo Wild and a few more like Babytv . See what happened to BBCE,Astro prefers only Asian versions. Starhub provides more HD sport content. We cant dream of having ASN sports and HBO sports can we ?! We wl be blessed with ASSP and ESPN for the rest of our lives,perhaps ! vmad.gif

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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 13 2009, 03:30 PM)
if the HD box doesn't do upscale, your HDTV will upscale the digital signal
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mean.... tv can upscale by itself?
i am using HD Ready TV only...


QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 13 2009, 03:53 PM)
HBO HD is a channel by itself .You can check out hboasia HD website and get the Singapore schedule whcih  wld be ours too later. you may go to starhub.sg and get all the HD channel schedules. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i see, mean the movies is not all same with HBO SD channel? thanks for your information..
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QUOTE(edmondyjh @ Dec 13 2009, 12:45 PM)
Astro b.yond is limited channel only. So i will wait until more channel open up on that HD then is worth it.
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I think what you and most people don't understand about the B-yond is that its an add-on to the current astro. You must have Astro service first and only topping up RM20 per month then you can watch some channels in which is available in HD. Its not like you can watch Discovery HD and not wanting to subscribe to Discovery. You must have Discovery package only then you can top up Rm20 to view it in HD.
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If I have 2 set top boxes, can I replace one of them with the HD box, or is it compulsory to replace both? I don't want to lose the recording capabilities of my astro max box until they bring out a HD pvr.
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will my current tv tuner card ( Hauppage PVR150MCE) able to cater to watch Astro in HD?
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i just took the plunge from subscribing online...
*fingers crossed*
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Dec 13 2009, 06:54 PM)
If I have 2 set top boxes, can I replace one of them with the HD box, or is it compulsory to replace both? I don't want to lose the recording capabilities of my astro max box until they bring out a HD pvr.
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I guess it should be treated as 2 individual accounts.
Unless it is the 50% second decoder. If change the principal decoder, I think need to change the supplement account as well since they share the same dish. hmm.gif
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how about got usb port for harddisk connection behind the decoder..
can it play mkv file.if can definitely i will take this decoder
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how about got usb port for harddisk connection behind the decoder..
can it play mkv file.if can definitely i will take this decoder
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but what for the port behind there..as long as we pay astro still manage to get income right
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QUOTE(kapultek @ Dec 13 2009, 10:09 PM)
but what for the port behind there..as long as we pay astro still manage to get income right
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it's for the future function... maybe PVR... that usb port will be use to connect external HDD to record astro programme...
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can some kind soul who has this installed please post a picture of the back of the decoder pls. thank you.
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can some kind soul who has this installed please post a picture of the back of the decoder pls. thank you.
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Just refer to this blog la. Got pictures of the unit.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 13 2009, 11:10 PM)
Just refer to this blog la. Got pictures of the unit.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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I can wait anymore lo he3 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 13 2009, 11:10 PM)
Just refer to this blog la. Got pictures of the unit.

http://cblog.cari.com.my/html/59/192959-216303.html
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By looking at the back of the unit, found 12V DC input instead of 240V input. Meaning external power adapter needed ??
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probably a power brick..laptop style..
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By looking at the back of the unit, found 12V DC input instead of 240V input. Meaning external power adapter needed ??
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Of course la. Cannot plug in 240v directly to a 12v device. Kaboom!!

I just hope the adapter is not as big as Xbox 360's power brick.
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please astro...mkv file..so i dont need to buy wdtv
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har? asking astro to provide MKV??? tongue.gif

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but in total there is 2 usb ports...front and back... so many lol
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is this worth it? 20/month extra for 5 channels?
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It it worth is u subscribe to all 5 channel, HBO, Discovery, History, and Sport package....and since non of us have a hand on astro hd, for the time being I will say yes, it worth it beside 1 year contract...
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erm, abt the hd channel, surely the picture superb as it is 1080i(surely not 1080p)..
2 hdmi port, 1 composite output, 1 component output, 1internet cable output and 1 smartcard slot.

about 4:3 and 16:9....there are setting to strecth the 4:3 output to fit the tv....

erm, wut else....for me, worth to pay extra rm20....for me la...
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kapultek: dream on, RM20 mkv HD player.... yeah right....

I have checked, for existing apartment/condo/high rise building that shares the dish (meaning you dont have individual dish sticking out yr balcony), there will be a wait of 18-24 months for them to change the dish/cable/infrastructure.

However, if you building has plenty of requests, they could escalate in installation process, but as for now, they are mainly catering to existing subscribers with their own dish units only.
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For those not sure whether to go HD or not, better wait till some of us already use the thing for a year. Later you cannot escape because of the 12-month contract.


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For those not sure whether to go HD or not, better wait till some of us already use the thing for a year. Later you cannot escape because of the 12-month contract.
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World Cup in middle of year... cannot wait for 12 months smile.gif
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I just subscribe Astro B.yond online through Astro website. Don't how long their will contact me and upgrade my system. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 14 2009, 11:24 AM)
I just subscribe Astro B.yond online through Astro website.  Don't how long their will contact me and upgrade my system.  hmm.gif
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I just subscribe Astro B.yond online through Astro website.  Don't how long their will contact me and upgrade my system.  hmm.gif
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i currently connect my astro to
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they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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i currently connect my astro to
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they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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You can use the AV to RF converter which normally you can find at electronic stores. Astro Byond decoder still got the good old AV output.
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I got a problem here. My cables (from the satellite dish) to the decoder had been concealed in the wall.

Do we need to change the cable completely? If yes, then I may have to hack the wall to chg the cable type.. wife is not going to like it.
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You can use the AV to RF converter which normally you can find at electronic stores. Astro Byond decoder still got the good old AV output.
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ok...let it clearly here...i already enjoying the hd byond...and for your info,the quality is better than usual, even sd channel...like b4, if u use the component cable, the picture will be more clear, now using the hdmi cable, for sure the quality of sd will be more...but dun aspect so much from la, better than before..
about the channel for hd, i think if anybody want to subscribe to hd, i think better do it now coz, later so many want to subscribe then u have to wait for ur turn....the 4 channel will start at 18 dec but, u think ar, if u subscribe now, its oni 3 days more and i think oni some of us will get it b4 18 rite...now they are playing hd channel on channel 100....and the picture, dun compare it la, sure like u watch the tv at shop with the bd player...u wont regret(from my own opinion)
they will change the cable, remote, decoder box and oso the dish...me got picture but better if somebody else put theirs here...
erm, i think all the info can get from the astro website...
the interface is better than b4, no more the blue bar....
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Yeah, i subscribed to astro byond few days ago online.still waiting for them to call and confirm. hopefully soon.
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 14 2009, 01:42 PM)
I got a problem here. My cables (from the satellite dish) to the decoder had been concealed in the wall.

Do we need to change the cable completely? If yes, then I may have to hack the wall to chg the cable type.. wife is not going to like it.
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i have the same problem with you... no idea why the contractor wants to conceal the darn cables... my best bet would be ignoring the concealed wire and drag the wire from dish and drill 1 hole near the window side to bring it in... hope this idea helps...
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quote@mansorlow

ysterday i called astro, she(customer rep) said......they wll install b.yond within 10 days and wll start charge rm20 in2 my accnt by April. i can keep my current decoder ( max) but have 2 pay rm80 ( installation charges).........sounds good!!..........any different story??

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Starting charges in april??? is this true??? so generous its shocking me....
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i think its wrong info la..
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i currently connect my astro to
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they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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Does anyone know how to connect astro to the router?
And which software do I use to watch on my PC from the router?
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Does anyone know how to connect astro to the router?
And which software do I use to watch on my PC from the router?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...=record+tv+show

currently i planning to record HD TV show brows.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...=record+tv+show

currently i planning to record HD TV show  brows.gif
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 14 2009, 03:27 PM)
recording hdtv with those? its as good as breaking it lol... if you want to record hdtv without DRM embedded, your current best bet is Hauppauge HD PVR.... though of course it isnt digitally saving the stream, but resampling the video...kinda wasted....  better work on how to extract out the DRM protected video files from recorded hdds
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better just go to torrent site to find the episode unless it is local content.
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 14 2009, 11:24 AM)
I just subscribe Astro B.yond online through Astro website.  Don't how long their will contact me and upgrade my system.  hmm.gif
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Astro called me just now and informed me that their will call me again tomorrow about Astro B.yond. laugh.gif That's fast.

I think their call me now just to verify that I am truely subscribe to Astro B.yond. hmm.gif
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better just go to torrent site to find the episode unless it is local content.
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QUOTE(anchovies93 @ Dec 14 2009, 02:05 PM)
quote@mansorlow

ysterday i called astro, she(customer rep) said......they wll install b.yond within 10 days and wll start charge rm20 in2 my accnt by April. i can keep my current decoder ( max) but have 2 pay rm80 ( installation charges).........sounds good!!..........any different story??

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Starting charges in april??? is this true??? so generous its shocking me....
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Just called Astro and was told to wait till next year for their recordable version to replace my AstroMAX. Not sure if it's going to be a new decoder box or just with new firmware to support recording to external harddisk. I was told that they have to transfer my account to Astro B.yond (new smartcard) if I upgrade now. This means that I will not be able to view with AstroMAX even if I get to keep the existing AstroMax setups, unless I subscribe for an additional standard account.

BTW, looks like the current decoder is a customized version of PACE satellite receiver with USB port which Astro claims is going to be the first in the world to support video recording to external harddisk..

PACE DS830

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actually are astro going to show WWII in HD on history channel HD? this series is awesome biggrin.gif
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i think its wrong info la..
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i m not sure 4 that info....she always put me on hold...........and ask her superviser.. then talk to me...really bad conversation! anyone here know when they will charge???
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actually are astro going to show WWII in HD on history channel HD? this series is awesome  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Jack28HT @ Dec 14 2009, 03:53 PM)
Just called Astro and was told to wait till next year for their recordable version to replace my AstroMAX. Not sure if it's going to be a new decoder box or just with new firmware to support recording to external harddisk. I was told that they have to transfer my account to Astro B.yond (new smartcard) if I upgrade now. This means that I will not be able to view with AstroMAX even if I get to keep the existing AstroMax setups, unless I subscribe for an additional standard account.

BTW, looks like the current decoder is a customized version of PACE satellite receiver with USB port which Astro claims is going to be the first in the world to support video recording to external harddisk..

PACE DS830
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the reason why i want 2 keep my current max...just 2 experiment . sloting new smart card [ in existing max slot] , otherwise give 2 my neighbour !
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Well it supports SD output , so hopefully I can get it to work with my MCE-150. I'll be needing it to record SD shows
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im sure you can checkout the schedule on the history channel website, if not go look at starhub's program guide.
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huh..  why? WWII where got HD recording? wink.gif
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yeah lol, most likely will be resampling to higher resolution lol... but its kinda wasting bandwidth if they really do so, black and white, lots of dots/noise/snow around the video.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ Dec 13 2009, 08:29 PM)
I guess it should be treated as 2 individual accounts.
Unless it is the 50% second decoder. If change the principal decoder, I think need to change the supplement account as well since they share the same dish.  hmm.gif
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Well I'm not sure if one is the 50% one (I think I got the second one before that promo) and I don't mind paying in full for the second account, but they both share the same dish. So do I need to replace both?
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If i were to subscribe new Astro account how much will it cost for B.Yond leh?
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If i were to subscribe new Astro account how much will it cost for B.Yond leh?
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registered last night, and just got confirmation call from them.

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 14 2009, 05:21 PM)
yeah lol, most likely will be resampling to higher resolution lol... but its kinda wasting bandwidth if they really do so, black and white, lots of dots/noise/snow around the video.... doh.gif
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there is a lot of noise but all the video are in colour and many never been show on tv before. this is the best quality that those video will be seen in.
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huh..  why? WWII where got HD recording? wink.gif
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watch first only comment la.. now is Epi 5 or more already.. .. WWII in HD (history channel).. biggrin.gif

the opening shot : this program contains rare films of world war II, originally shot in color, Found during a 2 year worldwide search..

ok, so the raw footage is very blur or dirty/grainy.. but HD mastering preserves the original quality, I dun need another low bitrate MPEG compression (if broadcast thro normal SD) to add a layer of blur-ness on to already blur/grainy stock footage.. biggrin.gif

also the other composites like photos/ pictures and CGI text are all HD sharp.. so is the razor sharp H channel logo..

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my house got internal cable..izzit the astro b-yong also need to change other cable for view??
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Dec 14 2009, 10:40 AM)
kapultek: dream on, RM20 mkv HD player.... yeah right....

I have checked, for existing apartment/condo/high rise building that shares the dish (meaning you dont have individual dish sticking out yr balcony), there will be a wait of 18-24 months for them to change the dish/cable/infrastructure.

However, if you building has plenty of requests, they could escalate in installation process, but as for now, they are mainly catering to existing subscribers with their own dish units only.
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i can confirm that oso....sent them an email last saturday, got a phone call from them 10mins ago....

altho the lady on the phone doesnt sound like she knows an awful lot...she confirmed some of my worse fears...

1) none of the condo/apartment using centralized dish is B.yond ready, meaning they will have to replace everything.

2) she say will need to replace the cabling also..this kinda baffled me cos all units is ready with concealed wiring & tv point. they can easily run new wiring in their risers, but how on earth they gonna go into each individual units & say "maam, can i come in hack your wall to conceal the new astro cables in order for you to enjoy HD?" who gonna pay for the repair + painting works??

the only other way is to run those cabling on the surface which will be ugly as hell...

either way, i still dun understand how the gonna replace the cables...

3) astro currently 'working' with all building managements to replace current dish...estimated duration, 18-24months..

whatever it is, unless my management allows me to install individual dish on the wall (also need to borrow their gondola to install it) there's no way to enjoy HD...i'll be very jealous of you guys....very very jealous....

i'm wondering if i can start a petition to get the management to speed up the upgrading works hmm.gif dunno how many souls in my condo as anxious as me getting HD content from astro tongue.gif

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 14 2009, 11:45 AM)
i currently connect my astro to
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2) TV downstairs

they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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Buy slingbox.

QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 14 2009, 01:42 PM)
I got a problem here. My cables (from the satellite dish) to the decoder had been concealed in the wall.

Do we need to change the cable completely? If yes, then I may have to hack the wall to chg the cable type.. wife is not going to like it.
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Don't need to change the cablelah. I test with my old dish and cable and it still works. No problemo.

QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 14 2009, 01:44 PM)
Guys, my HD ready TV uses Component cables port .Can i buy HDMI to Component cable and use for Astro ?Or is it better to connect direct using Component cable RBG ? Infact most earlier sets all use Component only the latest have HDMI ports.pls help cry.gif
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Component can support high res (up till 1080i if I'm not mistaken) but astro box will output 576i only so better use HDMI to component and you get the about the same as HD.

QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 14 2009, 02:01 PM)
ok...let it clearly here...i already enjoying the hd byond...and for your info,the quality is better than usual, even sd channel...like b4, if u use the component cable, the picture will be more clear, now using the hdmi cable, for sure the quality of sd will be more...but dun aspect so much from la, better than before..
about the channel for hd, i think if anybody want to subscribe to hd, i think better do it now coz, later so many want to subscribe then u have to wait for ur turn....the 4 channel will start at 18 dec but, u think ar, if u subscribe now, its oni 3 days more and i think oni some of us will get it b4 18 rite...now they are playing hd channel on channel 100....and the picture, dun compare it la, sure like u watch the tv at shop with the bd player...u wont regret(from my own opinion)
they will change the cable, remote, decoder box and oso the dish...me got picture but better if somebody else put theirs here...
erm, i think all the info can get from the astro website...
the interface is better than b4, no more the blue bar....
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Congrat. Now u know what I see. So anybody who still decide whether want to subscribe or not, subscribe fast or you'll be in a vely vely long waiting list.

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Does anyone know how to connect astro to the router?
And which software do I use to watch on my PC from the router?
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Router? rclxub.gif Anybody can answer this? I don't know how.


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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Dec 14 2009, 07:22 PM)
i can confirm that oso....sent them an email last saturday, got a phone call from them 10mins ago....

altho the lady on the phone doesnt sound like she knows an awful lot...she confirmed some of my worse fears...

1) none of the condo/apartment using centralized dish is B.yond ready, meaning they will have to replace everything.

2) she say will need to replace the cabling also..this kinda baffled me cos all units is ready with concealed wiring & tv point.  they can easily run new wiring in their risers, but how on earth they gonna go into each individual units & say "maam, can i come in hack your wall to conceal the new astro cables in order for you to enjoy HD?"  who gonna pay for the repair + painting works??

the only other way is to run those cabling on the surface which will be ugly as hell...

either way, i still dun understand how the gonna replace the cables...

3) astro currently 'working' with all building managements to replace current dish...estimated duration, 18-24months..

whatever it is, unless my management allows me to install individual dish on the wall (also need to borrow their gondola to install it) there's no way to enjoy HD...i'll be very jealous of you guys....very very jealous....

i'm wondering if i can start a petition to get the management to speed up the upgrading works  hmm.gif dunno how many souls in my condo as anxious as me getting HD content from astro  tongue.gif
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Its not easy woo to change all the cable and splitter. U'll need a new switch to split all the signal. The higher the building and the more unit in it the longer it take for upgrade. You are lucky if they manage to install it in 18 month.

Start the petition, get all owner to sign and give it to management. Don't forget petition Astro too to upgrade ur building first.

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If i need record HD using PC , if there possible ?
my house is normal flat tv , can record HD right ?

wat i need and how much for the recoded or hardware ?
can list out the price and the guild ? i still newbie ~

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QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 14 2009, 07:37 PM)
Don't need to change the cablelah. I test with my old dish and cable and it still works. No problemo.
Bro, u mean no need to chg cable and dish, still can receive the HD content ah?? Then why they need to chg the dish???
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I am goning to be pretty angry if I have to change the cable to the sat. I just build a feature wall and the cable is behind it sad.gif.
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QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 14 2009, 07:37 PM)
Buy slingbox.
Don't need to change the cablelah. I test with my old dish and cable and it still works. No problemo.
Component can support high res (up till 1080i if I'm not mistaken) but astro box will output 576i only so better use HDMI to component and you get the about the same as HD.

Thanx friend you made my day ! Now I can put to test my RM4000 Toshiba HDTV bought in 2004 before it KONGS !!  rclxms.gif
Congrat. Now u know what I see. So anybody who still decide whether want to subscribe or not, subscribe fast or you'll be in a vely vely long waiting list.
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Its not easy woo to change all the cable and splitter. U'll need a new switch to split all the signal. The higher the building and the more unit in it the longer it take for upgrade. You are lucky if they manage to install it in 18 month.

Start the petition, get all owner to sign and give it to management. Don't forget petition Astro too to upgrade ur building first.
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wells it was last night when i filled in the online form and no ones called me yet... sad.gif

am in Kuching region
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QUOTE(yonggoh @ Dec 14 2009, 09:38 PM)
wells it was last night when i filled in the online form and no ones called me yet... sad.gif

am in Kuching region
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I am also from Kuching and I fill in this morning. Their called me this afternoon. unsure.gif
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wells it was last night when i filled in the online form and no ones called me yet... sad.gif

am in Kuching region
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Just call them only la, fill form wasting time! tongue.gif
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Just call them only la, fill form wasting time!  tongue.gif
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now who get the astro b.yond already???
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So for the new HD no need change the satelite? Just the decoder change?
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QUOTE(leyley @ Dec 14 2009, 10:20 PM)
So for the new HD no need change the satelite? Just the decoder change?
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i don mind to change my dish since i have using it over 10 years.

may i know,
why all of u no wanna change the new dish?
i think it is good for us what?
or the new dish have any disadvantage?

i jz want to know... smile.gif
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 14 2009, 08:01 PM)
Bro, u mean no need to chg cable and dish, still can receive the HD content ah?? Then why they need to chg the dish???
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Because they giving it out for free and new is better than old, isn't it?

QUOTE(kuekss @ Dec 14 2009, 10:16 PM)
now who get the astro b.yond already???
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TS already got. Go to his house and see lah.

QUOTE(twL @ Dec 14 2009, 10:25 PM)
i don mind to change my dish since i have using it over 10 years.

may i know,
why all of u no wanna change the new dish?
i think it is good for us what?
or the new dish have any disadvantage?

i jz want to know... smile.gif
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New dish is more advantage and new is betterlah. And not all didn't want to change. Only the ppl who dun wan to korek their wall dun wan to change.
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"TS" they all go to ur house install need to change the cable or not???
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Because they giving it out for free and new is better than old, isn't it?
TS already got. Go to his house and see lah.
New dish is more advantage and new is betterlah. And not all didn't want to change. Only the ppl who dun wan to korek their wall dun wan to change.
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the website noticed that HD channel will launch on 18 dec, isn't it?

today astro called me and i decide to upgrade my astro decorder,
hope they will change for me as soon as possible.... smile.gif
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I called ASTRO on saturday morning and applied , They called me back in the evening and told they will confirm with me on tuesday about the term and condition .
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I called ASTRO on saturday morning and applied , They called me back in the evening and told they will confirm with me on tuesday about the term and condition .
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what is ur meaning of confirm t & c on tuesday?
is it something like 'sign' the contract with them?
i thought after applied,
the next call will be arrange time to install the new dish and decorder...
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I think, all application for astro b.yond only will be process starting on Tuesday (tomorrow)... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(twL @ Dec 14 2009, 11:18 PM)
what is ur meaning of confirm t & c on tuesday?
is it something like 'sign' the contract with them?
i thought after applied,
the next call will be arrange time to install the new dish and decorder...
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Thats the thing , i asked what they meant by that . the lady who spoke to me she said she is incharge of the project and one of her officer will call me on tuesday to explain about the package and to confirm about the installation .
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QUOTE(Ares187 @ Dec 14 2009, 11:29 PM)
Thats the thing , i asked what they meant by that . the lady who spoke to me she said she is incharge of the project and one of her officer will call me on tuesday to explain about the package and to confirm about the installation .
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i wonder is it they have any more t & c that we do not know yet and must follow if want to subscribe?
please share with us what they are going to tell u after u got the call.

i cant wait to watch Astro HD on my LCD,
even i am only using HD ready tv,
but without s-video input...
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I think, all application for astro b.yond only will be process starting on Tuesday (tomorrow)... cool2.gif
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I think so too , i hope to get it by the time they go live
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according to the agent on the phone -- everything needs to be changed, cabling, dish and the decoder... they told me last friday that they will re-confirm again tomorrow (Tuesday) abt the T&C too ... wonder that they may increase the price .....
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QUOTE(aztech @ Dec 14 2009, 11:55 PM)
according to the agent on the phone -- everything needs to be changed, cabling, dish and the decoder... they told me last friday that they will re-confirm again tomorrow (Tuesday) abt the T&C too ... wonder that they may increase the price .....
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yeah , they told me that too , All need to be changed . I hope they dont make any changes to the pricing .
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want to ask. im not an astro customer but would like to have the HD. so i need to regiter with standard package(at least) first in order to upgrade to astro byond. currently promotion is rm199 for the decoder (must activate before 15 jan 2010) and free installation. worth?
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QUOTE(Ares187 @ Dec 15 2009, 12:02 AM)
yeah , they told me that too , All need to be changed . I hope they dont make any changes to the pricing .
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i hope so too -- if they increase it, i may wait till next year (when im moving in to my new aprtment) to change to hd...
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QUOTE(aztech @ Dec 15 2009, 12:51 AM)
i hope so too -- if they increase it, i may wait till next year (when im moving in to my new aprtment) to change to hd...
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Luckily my apartment we use our own dish , not the centralized one .
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QUOTE(l_berd @ Dec 15 2009, 12:07 AM)
want to ask. im not an astro customer but would like to have the HD. so i need to regiter with standard package(at least) first in order to upgrade to astro byond. currently promotion is rm199 for the decoder (must activate before 15 jan 2010) and free installation. worth?
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basic package .. I don't think there are any HD channels.

you have to subscribe to movie package, then get HBO HD
add education package, get NatGeo and History channel HD
add sports package, get Supersports HD and in January ESPN HD

I may have the packages name wrong though
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wells it was last night when i filled in the online form and no ones called me yet... sad.gif

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filled online form on friday nite...astro called to confirm sat noon but just to confirm rcved application oni...install dunno when
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if anyone received call today, please update
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I just received call today, they will start charging the RM20 from April 2010 onwards.

Installation will be done within 10 days from today
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I just received call today, they will start charging the RM20 from April 2010 onwards.

Installation will be done within 10 days from today
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any new t&c?
so the 12 months contract starts on April 2010?

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Hallmark HD taken with my nokia 5800(non HD haha)

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Hallmark HD taken with my nokia 5800(non HD haha)

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QUOTE(l_berd @ Dec 15 2009, 12:07 AM)
want to ask. im not an astro customer but would like to have the HD. so i need to regiter with standard package(at least) first in order to upgrade to astro byond. currently promotion is rm199 for the decoder (must activate before 15 jan 2010) and free installation. worth?
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Is that full package?


apexg2 is using camera phone. C the detail is still sharp although using phone.
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sorry..i think its history channel..hehe

like ecam said...its true...nokia5800 oni have 3.2mpixel....want me to shoot with canon 40D ar..aiyo...

the picture just want to help threaders to see the picture..i got my byond oledi...
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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 15 2009, 07:19 AM)
basic package .. I don't think there are any HD channels.

you have to subscribe to movie package, then get HBO HD
add education package, get NatGeo and History channel HD
add sports package, get Supersports HD and in January ESPN HD

I may have the packages name wrong though
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yes i know. i plan to add sport package. just wanted to know if the rm199 is worth or not


QUOTE(ecam @ Dec 15 2009, 11:08 AM)
Is that full package?
apexg2 is using camera phone. C the detail is still sharp although using phone.
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nop. what i concern is the rm199 decoder + free installation - worth or not? then change to astro byond for free (they need to come two times shocking.gif )
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:45 AM)
I just received call today, they will start charging the RM20 from April 2010 onwards.

Installation will be done within 10 days from today
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So looks like many wont get HD by 18-12-09. cry.gif
Should not have rushed to book on Friday ! They called me on Sunday have to wait until 16th for 2nd call and upon agreeing to TC installation within 14 days ! Looks like not many get to watch the kick off ! cry.gif
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:16 AM)
sorry..i think its history channel..hehe

like ecam said...its true...nokia5800 oni have 3.2mpixel....want me to shoot with canon 40D ar..aiyo...

the picture just want to help threaders to see the picture..i got my byond oledi...
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wah.. how come u enjoy byond earlier? are u an astro dealer?
thanks for the screenshot....


Added on December 15, 2009, 11:25 am
QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:45 AM)
I just received call today, they will start charging the RM20 from April 2010 onwards.

Installation will be done within 10 days from today
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i still waiting for their call today....
but until now there's nobody from astro call me regarding this byond... shocking.gif
will wait until tomorrow...


Added on December 15, 2009, 11:27 ameh, may i know whether those who are using astro max cannot swap their decoder with byond? it's that true?

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He is one of the first to register that's y he got oredi.

U guys lambat lambat by feb oso tak dapat. Hurry register.

Heard that the quantity is very limited. Lambat then need to wait next order.

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:23 AM)
wah.. how come u enjoy byond earlier? are u an astro dealer?
thanks for the screenshot....


Added on December 15, 2009, 11:25 am

i still waiting for their call today....
but until now there's nobody from astro call me regarding this byond... shocking.gif
will wait until tomorrow...
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not dealer..hehe whistling.gif
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:16 AM)
sorry..i think its history channel..hehe

like ecam said...its true...nokia5800 oni have 3.2mpixel....want me to shoot with canon 40D ar..aiyo...

the picture just want to help threaders to see the picture..i got my byond oledi...
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How big is the improvement from SD to HD ? What is your impression?
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Just received a call form Astro.

1. The installation charges is free if I return my existing astro set (dish, decoder, remote control) and they only giving 20m free coaxial cable. The cost for the extra cable is subject to the installer pricing.

2. I can keep the existing set, but I will need to pay RM80 for the installation for the new astro byond.

3. It will be additional charges Rm20 into you bill which will start on April 2010 onwards. She did not mentioned anything about the contractual period though. She also did mentioned that there will be a RM10 stamp duty which I can't remember whether it is one off charges or recurring charges.

4. You still need to pay RM20 even though you only subscribe to Learning package which mean you can only enjoy watching NAT Geo in HD. You need to subscribe to movie, sports, metro and learning package if you want to enjoy to watch all 5 HD channels in Byond. There will be an hour delay for all HD channels except for sports HD channel.

5. The installer will come to your house in 10 days time from the day you received the call from Astro. She also reminded to check the installer identification to ensure that they are from Astro authorized agents.
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like i said b4...the picture like u r in tv shop using bd movie...its clearer than sd(surela)..then sound more crispy...
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QUOTE(binary @ Dec 15 2009, 11:33 AM)
Just received a call form Astro.

1. The installation charges is free if I return my existing astro set (dish, decoder, remote control) and they only giving 20m free coaxial cable. The cost for the extra cable is subject to the installer pricing.

2. I can keep the existing set, but I will need to pay RM80 for the installation for the new astro byond.

3. It will be additional charges Rm20 into you bill which will start on April 2010 onwards. She did not mentioned anything about the contractual period though. She also did mentioned that there will be a RM10 stamp duty which I can't remember whether it is one off charges or recurring charges.

4. You still need to pay RM20 even though you only subscribe to Learning package which mean you can only enjoy watching NAT Geo in HD. You need to subscribe to movie, sports, metro and learning package if you want to enjoy to watch all 5 HD channels in Byond. There will be an hour delay for all HD channels except for sports HD channel.

5. The installer will come to your house in 10 days time from the day you received the call from Astro. She also reminded to check the installer identification to ensure that they are from Astro authorized agents.
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I called Astro about this b.yond thing this morning... they did mention about extending a year from present contract. like if you have 2 years contract with Astro so a total 3 years (2+1 years) will be given. Tadaa...
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promotion now for new subscriber is rm30 for the decoder+installation+free 20m cable,.. already subcribe.. after activate the account only can subscribe HD
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waiting astro calling me...astro faster call me n confirm the date...
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on a related note, does anyone know where to buy 50ft and 100ft composite cable? (in Klang valley). Thanks
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QUOTE(crocs @ Dec 15 2009, 01:17 PM)
on a related note, does anyone know where to buy 50ft and 100ft composite cable? (in Klang valley). Thanks
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Try look around at Jalan Pasar.
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on a related note, does anyone know where to buy 50ft and 100ft composite cable? (in Klang valley). Thanks
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branded type or basic ones..
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I've also received call from astro just now, registered last friday. They promised to install by next Monday as i told them that im going outstation on Tuesday.

Hopefully they can keep their words..
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on a related note, does anyone know where to buy 50ft and 100ft composite cable? (in Klang valley). Thanks
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You mean composite, or component cable? If it's just for composite video (RG59?) or audio, can get Belden or Japanese/China cable in Pasar Road in 90 ft coils... For component, you could try using the same, but I'm not sure about the distance limit on component cabling...

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QUOTE(jeman @ Dec 15 2009, 03:46 PM)
I've also received call from astro just now, registered last friday. They promised to install by next Monday as i told them that im going outstation on Tuesday.

Hopefully they can keep their words..
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hmm... i also registered last friday on their website...
but until now, nobody from astro call me.... sad.gif

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i also received a call from astro,
yesterday i plan to subscribe and they called me to tell me the t & c,
and they promise will proceed within 10 working days.

same as others,
she also called me i only have to pay RM20 on april onwards,
but she called me second time for my IC number,
i wonder they are not have my IC number since she gave me the call?
she asked my IC number for 3 times...
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y i not yet get the call???
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I did not get any calls from ASTRO yet. Should I call them up and ask or they just dont care about me
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their business is booming, customers are queuing up to get served, economy definitely is recovering.

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Finally.. astro called me about this byond..
they asked for my IC no and asked me whether I confirm to take byond...
I gave my Ic no and said wanna take byond..hehe...
The RM20 will need to pay starting from April 2010.. so 4 months free and for the first month after installation..probably January bill, there will be RM10 extra for stamp duty charge (one time charge only).
They promised to install new byond set within 10 working days starting from today...
I also want to keep my astro max decoder, so he said that I need to pay RM80 to the installer on the day of installation.


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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 15 2009, 04:23 PM)
their business is booming, customers are queuing up to get served, economy definitely is recovering.
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The selling of the flat panel screen (Plasma/LCD) also maybe will be increasing since Malaysia already have HD channels. blush.gif

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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:01 AM)
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Can you take picture for the SD channels (eg normal National Geographic, TV3, RTM) ?
I wanna see whether it has pillarbox or not..
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hmm...they called me yesterday..n told gonna call me again today..but i'm still patiently waiting..
i'm still curious bout sd decoder..if keep it..u can still use it or need new registrations..?
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Dec 15 2009, 04:38 PM)
hmm...they called me yesterday..n told gonna call me again today..but i'm still patiently waiting..
i'm still curious bout sd decoder..if keep it..u can still use it or need new registrations..?
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I asked the customer service rep who called me about the Astro B.yond. If you keep the sd decoder, you cannot use it as your current account will be upgraded to Astro B.yond account and will be registered to the new Astro B.yond Smart Card, thus you cannot use your old decoder and Smart Card unless I guess you register for a new account.
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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Dec 15 2009, 04:38 PM)
hmm...they called me yesterday..n told gonna call me again today..but i'm still patiently waiting..
i'm still curious bout sd decoder..if keep it..u can still use it or need new registrations..?
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I also waiting them patiently. Anyway, I just sign up for Astro around 3 months and now upgrade to Astro B.yond. I am wondering, how long I will be lock in ... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Dec 15 2009, 05:05 PM)
I asked the customer service rep who called me about the Astro B.yond. If you keep the sd decoder, you cannot use it as your current account will be upgraded to Astro B.yond account and will be registered to the new Astro B.yond Smart Card, thus you cannot use your old decoder and Smart Card unless I guess you register for a new account.
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Thats right, no point keeping old decorders cos old card wld be disabled vmad.gif
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post Dec 15 2009, 06:43 PM

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great sentimental value, put old decoder in your personal museum icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 15 2009, 06:43 PM)
great sentimental value, put old decoder in your personal museum  icon_idea.gif
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For those with Astro Max decoders, I'm sure it would be worth more than rm80 in the 2nd hand market. Even the sd decoder is worth something, especially if it is the newer range...


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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 15 2009, 05:29 PM)
I also waiting them patiently.  Anyway, I just sign up for Astro around 3 months and now upgrade to Astro B.yond.  I am wondering, how long I will be lock in ...  hmm.gif
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And I am also waiting patiently, they said they would call today, looks like Astro also ffk.

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QUOTE(kkm @ Dec 15 2009, 06:49 PM)
And I am also waiting patiently, they said they would call today, looks like Astro also ffk.
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yesterday astro called me up to confirm whether i want to upgrade to HD decorder,
and i have got the call by today,
it is quite fast...

maybe have too many subscribers want to upgrade,
so have to wait?
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QUOTE(twL @ Dec 15 2009, 06:54 PM)
yesterday astro called me up to confirm whether i want to upgrade to HD decorder,
and i have got the call by today,
it is quite fast...

maybe have too many subscribers want to upgrade,
so have to wait?
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I checked with them today at 5pm cos I applied on Friday. Thay said i am on the list to be called today but until now NO call cry.gif
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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 15 2009, 04:18 PM)
I did not get any calls from ASTRO yet. Should I call them up and ask or they just dont care about me
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For those who apply through email or website, it is better to call them directly as the mail system will be swamped. Ask to confirm right that time.

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 15 2009, 04:38 PM)
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Can you take picture for the SD channels (eg normal National Geographic, TV3, RTM) ?
I wanna see whether it has pillarbox or not..
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Got pillarbox but can be stretched
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astro need to hire more people whistling.gif

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 15 2009, 04:32 PM)
Finally.. astro called me about this byond..
they asked for my IC no and asked me whether I confirm to take byond...
I gave my Ic no and said wanna take byond..hehe...
The RM20 will need to pay starting from April 2010.. so 4 months free and for the first month after installation..probably January bill, there will be RM10 extra for stamp duty charge (one time charge only).
They promised to install new byond set within 10 working days starting from today...
I also want to keep my astro max decoder, so he said that I need to pay RM80 to the installer on the day of installation.
If we give them old decoder, it is means I don't have pay RM80 to installer?
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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 15 2009, 07:30 PM)
If we give them old decoder, it is means I don't have pay RM80 to installer?
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yes.... smile.gif

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 15 2009, 07:31 PM)
yes....  smile.gif
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Sound good.. rclxm9.gif

Are you guyz know it is posibble that I can use new Sat Dish (came with HD decoder) with old decoder? I have 2 decoder in my home and using same Sat Dish.
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Then pay how much to install the decoder?
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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 15 2009, 07:35 PM)
Sound good..  rclxm9.gif

Are you guyz know it is posibble that I can use new Sat Dish (came with HD decoder) with old decoder? I have 2 decoder in my home and using same Sat Dish.
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your 2 decoder need a splitter to share one dish, but I guess you already have that
new dish may have improved version of lnb head, could improve on the received signal, gives you better resistance to rain-fade.
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about the free installation -> does it include pulling the cables from ceiling to the living room?
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Astro FFK on me , they were supposed to call me today till now none . sad.gif
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about the free installation -> does it include pulling the cables from ceiling to the living room?
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hi astro called me up today, and they said only need to pay rm20 in april? means free of charge untill april only pay rrm20 per month? correct me if i'm wrong"
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QUOTE(rickrick @ Dec 15 2009, 07:53 PM)
hi astro called me up today, and they said only need to pay rm20 in april? means free of charge untill april only pay rrm20 per month? correct me if i'm wrong"
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yeah , free till april .
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QUOTE(Ares187 @ Dec 15 2009, 07:54 PM)
yeah , free till april .
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well only 5 channel's, later need to pay more for more channel... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(rickrick @ Dec 15 2009, 07:55 PM)
well only 5 channel's, later need to pay more for more channel...  vmad.gif
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hehehehe , maybe . We got to wait till they introduce more channel and see if they plan to charge us more

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