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post Dec 15 2009, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(agingamer @ Dec 15 2009, 07:45 PM)
about the free installation -> does it include pulling the cables from ceiling to the living room?
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Yes!
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post Dec 15 2009, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 15 2009, 08:01 PM)
Can we use existing cable with new decoder? I mean cable from Dish to Decoder?
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New dish, new cable and new decoder for HD reception. existing cable tak boleh pakai lagi.
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post Dec 15 2009, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 15 2009, 08:16 PM)
depends on the RF cable specs installed right? (I wonder the new one use what requirement)
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To avoid any problem for HD reception, astro requires all installer to replace a new cable. Otherwise it will be no deal. I believe the new cable would be a much better quality then the previous cable supplied by astro. It should be still the same RG6 cable but better quality for sure.

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QUOTE(minimize @ Dec 15 2009, 08:21 PM)
Hopefully my splitter can be use with new cable. Hehehe
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This time around, 1 dish ---> 1 decoder. No more splitting.

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post Dec 17 2009, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Dec 16 2009, 06:54 PM)
I just checked my cable and it says RG 6/U on the outside. Does that mean I have to replace it or is it OK for astroHD? It is about 10 years old by the way.
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Better replace new cable since astro provide free cable. I was told the installer must replace new cable for the customer. Ofcourse you can always talk to the installer to use the old cable. Problem is with HD reception if you have a bad cable, the noise will show up on your HDTV and it will be just like watching astro during raining time with lots of pixelisation. That is the reason why it is necessary to replace new cable.
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post Dec 18 2009, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 18 2009, 09:52 AM)
Anyone know Astro B.yond use which Measat ?? if use difference from what Astro SD use, then this will explain why we need to change the disc.
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Same old Mesat3.
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post Dec 18 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 18 2009, 10:24 AM)
eh i thought is measat 3A
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Possible too! but having 2 birds at same location beaming strong signal over our house should be interesting
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post Dec 19 2009, 04:50 PM

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Just been told the LNB and cable for Astro Byond is the same as SD version. So some installers did not replacing the cable to save the time and trouble.

But if your current cable is more then 3 yrs old, I would suggest you all request the installer to replace the new cable for you since it is free.
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 12:58 AM)
The upside of this is that if wired correctly the Astro B.yond media box can receive signals from even more satellites, in the same position, than just Measat 3 or Measat 3a.
Meaning can tune to other birds too brows.gif

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 01:59 AM)
You are right, one solution would be to put all the HD channels on the same satellite as the SD channels, but that would mean removing 4 SD channels for every 1 HD channel. So with the proposed 15 channels they would have to kill off 60 SD channels!

This is why they had to launch a new satellite!

To "fix" the problem you either need one dish for every decoder or a system made up of multiswitches.

I just did a quick google (just for you!) and came across http://communaltv.sky.com/communalTvOptions.aspx. In the UK they also have this problem and it looks like Sky have set up a separate company to solve the "problem".

I imagine Astro will adopt a similar approach, you need to get your building management to speak to Astro.

A bit more googling also shows the same problem in Australia, Foxtel have published their solution at http://www.citt.com.au/foxtel/info/Documen...Manual_v8.5.pdf and it is also on their blogs http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-repli...cfm/455029.html.

It appears that they call a block / condo a MDU (Multiple Dwelling Unit).
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On paper sat fiber optic system sounds good. So what is the story with fiber optic system trial carried out by astro?

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post Dec 20 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:31 AM)
Yes, but only in the same position (91.5E). Measat "own" that position in space so it is unlikely that anything other than Astro will ever appear there!
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What if my dish got blown by strong wind and the position is off a little bit?
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Dec 20 2009, 10:39 AM)
All that would happen is that you would loose Astro and get nothing. If your dish moved and by luck happened to be pointed at another satellite then you would need a box from that provider.

I think what Astro are trying to do is fix all the Astro B.yond installations so that in the future they could put more satellites in to space at the same position, giving us more channels from one dish (hopefully HD). Some satellite broadcasters have more than 5 satellites in the same position. Look at SatCoDX for Direct TV (USA) and BSkyB (UK).

The fixing of the communal systems is their only choice if we want more than the current number of channels. rclxub.gif
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Cheers m8!
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(tHeRiDdLeR @ Dec 20 2009, 11:02 AM)
adapter & epg taken from my hp.
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Can you post some photo of the setup menu please?
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post Dec 21 2009, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 20 2009, 11:09 PM)
One thing I don't get is why people say the disc cannot be shared between two decoders - one HD and one normal; doesn't the SD transmission come down the same dish and cable to the HD decoder?
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Now Astro channals are broadcasting on both verticle and horizontal polarization frequency. Basically some channels are on vertical frequency and some channels are on horizontal frequency. The decoder will send 13V to the LNB for verticle polarization, and 18V for horizontal polarization. Say decoder A is watching channel on verticle frequency, and decoder B is watching channel on horizontal frequency, both decoders will be sending different voltage to the LNB, hence LNB will failed to work. This will lead to blank screen on your tv as the LNB is not functioning.

Earlier thread also mentioned that you can still share a single dish with 2 decoders if you have a LNB with twin output, but the cost of the LNB is costing quite a fair bit.

Sorry me not good in putting words together in explaining things blush.gif I hope this helps you to understand better hmm.gif

Whereas before this B.yond was introduced, all the channels are only broadcast on verticle polarization frequency, therefore you can share 2 decoders with a single dish.

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