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post Dec 10 2009, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 9 2009, 10:16 AM)
I still have no idea about 720p vs 1080i.Yes, P stands for progressive while I is interlaced but what are they really?If not mistaken, progressive is always better than interlaced.So now should we get a 1080p tv or a 720p? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Get a full hd tv not the hd ready tv

QUOTE(FROGEYE @ Dec 9 2009, 11:22 AM)
I think content matters followed by transmission quality. Currently i dont find any excitement at all in their program. Apologies for my bluntness..
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Cannot find what to watch? Subscribe more package then

QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 02:17 PM)
How come use 1080i instead of 1080p ??
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i use less bandwidth than p. About half of it.

QUOTE(simon82 @ Dec 9 2009, 03:51 PM)
Mayb not here... but in US..
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:URN1q...lient=firefox-a

"1080p: The Ultimate HD Experience
As the leader in HD, DIRECTV now brings you the latest in HD technology: 1080p. The same HD format as Blu-ray Discs, 1080p delivers a picture that's even sharper and smoother than 1080i, especially for movies. The hottest titles are now available in 1080p on DIRECTV on DEMAND. Experience them like never before. "
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Yo bro, on demand lah. not real time. you connect ur record box to internet or leave it on standby for it to download the video. 1 1080p channel in real time will require about 24 to 28Mbps bandwidth. So 1 transponder can only have 1 or 2 channel and if 1 satellite have 10 transponder, u can only get 10 or 20 channel. 1 transponder is about 48Mbps rate.


QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 9 2009, 05:21 PM)
Is there such a thing as few hundred feet HDMI cables? Reason being my family's household has one decoder and right now we use few hundred feet of wiring in order to receive Astro upstairs in my room so in order to receive HD, I will need to change the cables to HDMI, is there such length of cable? Forgive me if it sounds silly tongue.gif
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Hundred feet? Ur room across jalan ke? There are long HDMI available.

QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 9 2009, 08:16 PM)
720p.

1080i is kinda like 540p
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So the so called expert said. Do ur homework bro.

QUOTE(JayC75 @ Dec 10 2009, 10:17 AM)
i was told the cable from dish to decoder might need to change also, how true is that?
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U might if it is not rg6 or old cable. If not ur signal will be very low and you will got the rain fade easily. Hujan sikit signal takde.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 10 2009, 04:59 PM)
HDMI extender use CAT5 ethernet cable to save money on HDMI cable cost.
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Sure. It might work. Does it work with HDCP? If it do let me know. Also can let us know where to get this?
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post Dec 11 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(attentional @ Dec 11 2009, 09:00 AM)
huhuhu, this proves that some people here don't know sh1t and just trying to act pro. Finger point to ecam. 720p is always better than 1080i. That's the fact.
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Bro, u got a crooked finger lah. Did I say anything about 720p vs 1080i? Failed...


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post Dec 11 2009, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 11 2009, 02:46 PM)
wah... thanks for the info... notworthy.gif
and when can the subscriber start to subscribe this new beyond...
i really interested with this beyond, but beyond can't do like what my current astro max can do...
beyond only have HD channel but beyond can't record astro programmes, rewind, pause live tv, doing slow motion....  sad.gif
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Is it? you'll be surprised in future. whistling.gif

I read in this thread it says:

2. What is Astro B.yond?
Astro B.yond is the future of entertainment. It is a brand new offering in television broadcast
which offers the first ever High-Definition broadcast in Malaysia. For a start, five exclusive high
definition channels will be introduced at the time of launch, with more to come in the future.
With Astro B.yond, employees will be able to enjoy true high definition details such as with
superior resolution, sound and clarity. Astro B.yond will have future interactive features like
Personal Video Recording (PVR), new Electronic Programming Guide (EPG) and internet
connectivity.


Source: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1017325/+620


As for the subscription, we'll look and see. Today is just media launch and 18th is the official launch.

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post Dec 11 2009, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(max211 @ Dec 11 2009, 03:03 PM)
Waahhh.. i'm so excited to finally be able to watch sports in HD.. hehe.. biggrin.gif  anyway, mr anfieldude, about the interlaced signal thingy, do u know how my system will perform, good/normal/poor? i'm using samsung series 5, 37" full hd set. thanks dude!  thumbup.gif

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Should be good


QUOTE(binary @ Dec 11 2009, 03:04 PM)
So, if we subscribe with Byond, do we still can watch our existing subscribed channels other than the HD channels???
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Can. Quality will be better than s-video, component, composite as you'll be using HDMI. No more analog.

QUOTE(leecwai @ Dec 11 2009, 03:27 PM)
I just called Astro to enquire about Astro B.yond. Looks like for other channel without HD will be in aspect ratio of 4:3, so other than the listed channel with HD, you will still see "fat" people. But the Astro facebook mentioned that all will be in 16:9.  rclxub.gif

According to the customer service, Astro B.yond doesn't have the recording function yet like astro max. And I also surprised to know that if you are Astro Max subscriber, you can't swap your decoder and dish for this Astro B.yond. [may be i understood wrongly]
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Haiya. You want to swap ur max out? You can pay rm 80 and keep it. You can keep old smartcard but u have to pay more/2nd account. If I'm not mistaken the new smartcard cannot use on old box.


QUOTE(barry @ Dec 11 2009, 03:37 PM)
Does anyone know if they will charge for the swapping of the dish? If they do, how much? Also, can anyone here confirm if it will be 720p or 1080i?
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No charge for dish swap. It would be in 1080i.

QUOTE(leecwai @ Dec 11 2009, 03:39 PM)
They will swap your decoder and dish with installation fee of RM80

But you will need to add RM20/month for the subscription
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No installation fee but yes add rm 20 to current sub. If u have movie and sport package in ur current sub, u can see hbo hd, supersport hd and espn hd.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:41 PM)
user posted image
looks like it's a puny little dish. expect signal dropouts during raining.
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lol. about the size of remote? it is 65cm. 5 cm more than current. Of course bigger is better. Typical maximum for Ku is 120cm

QUOTE(binary @ Dec 11 2009, 03:44 PM)
Need to see the real  thing than only can comments about the size and quality. Hope the new dish can reduce the signal loss during raining  sweat.gif
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Yep. But signal strength depends on your dish alignment, LNB unit sensitivity, dish reflection, cable quality and length. Insist that the technician use spectrum analyzer to align ur dish. I might write a guide on my blog regarding rain fade.

QUOTE(barry @ Dec 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
Okay, now i know. They will charge rm80 for the installation of the new dish, and every month you pay an additional rm20. They are broadcasting in 1080i, so the question remains just badly my old 50" pv80h will perform in deinterlacing the signals.
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Dun worry you can change the STB settings to 720p and it will deinterlace for you.

QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Dec 11 2009, 03:45 PM)
From FB page
This is looking to be a good deal. Can change to the new decoder but still don't want to subscribe to their HD channels?  tongue.gif
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Cannot. No point of getting new box if didn't subscribe to HD.

QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 11 2009, 03:46 PM)
does all their HD channel have dobly digital surround sound? only astro supersport mention it.
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Depend on the source program. If it has, it has.

QUOTE(Qash-M @ Dec 11 2009, 03:47 PM)
Does that mean 4:3 broadcast will have custom black bars for fitting 16:9 TV?
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You can use black custom bar or you can stretch it into a fat man. Your choice.

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 11 2009, 03:55 PM)
here's a little quote from astro

imagine hooking up the stb to the tv with hdmi (does it carry video&audio or video only?)...your mom was watching a hd show with DD5.1 (does astro support DD5.1 or just marketing gimmick about surround sound?).....then she complain:"why this channel no sound?" tongue.gif  doh.gif

do you think the stb support downmix of DD?
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No downmix. U need tv that support dolby or home theather system to hear dolby. Dolby is available on hdmi and spdif. If you didn't have the tv or home theather, you can get stereo through hdmi though or the red and white out.

QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 11 2009, 04:22 PM)
white + red + yellow----wut they call this, composite rite?

Component output

HDMI output

USB

if not mistake la...
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composite/rca.

Output? it got component, hdmi, spdif, composite. usb and ethernet is for input and other thing....



p/s: I got a unit with me. Wanna see the video and pic? BEG. Muahahahaha. brows.gif I'll post if I'm not lazy.

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post Dec 11 2009, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 11 2009, 05:39 PM)
i hope they lay their hands off these hd channels from censorship (referring to HBO)... else its a big waste... censored hd channels =__=
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In Malaysia? You can only dream. But I saw tit covered with stars on Neo Geo HD. Hohoho
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post Dec 11 2009, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 11 2009, 05:58 PM)
if my current setup , i have the astro going to my LCD monitor, then downstairs to my normal Flat screen crt TV, if subscribe to astro beyond, can i watch HD on my LCD monitor and still watch normal broadcast on my normal flat screen crt tv using the astro beyond 1 dish?
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Astro to LCD using HDMI and Astro to CRT TV using composite or component. Can of course can. The analog output will display the same HD video in SD.
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post Dec 11 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 11 2009, 06:16 PM)
ecam, show the pics video pls...lol i really wana see it...even though i've just called and subscribe to it lol
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I'll take the picture but please bear in mind that my camera is not HD.

QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Dec 11 2009, 06:20 PM)
can anyone post a picture of the back of the decoder? I wanna see what audio output Astro B.yond using
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It has this audio output:

HDMI

SPDIF Coaxial

Stereo Red and White Composite output
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Pls take notice that there is NO OPTICAL OUTPUT.
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post Dec 11 2009, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 11 2009, 06:26 PM)
I already submit the forms for subscribing astro beyond on their website...now waiting for their call...
but, when the installer will come to my home and install the new dish, decoder?? I bet it will take a very long time since the service only start at 18 December...
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They promise in 10 days from your registration. Good luck on it. Make sure the installer is official one and align your dish using proper spectrum analyzer. If he doesn't know about it, call back and insist.

If not you'll be having intermittent hd on cloudy day ( no rain yet ).


No installation cost if you swapped ur old box out. But if you want to keep ur old box, u need to pay rm 80. That's it. Dun kena conned that he took the box and ask u to pay rm80.

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post Dec 11 2009, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 06:31 PM)
can anyone gimme astro number?
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Astro Customer Service : 1-300-82-3838

For more info on Astro B.Yond or Astro HD, visit : http://www.astro.com.my/byond/index.asp

Forgot to say this, but if you live in condo or apartment and has centralized dish check with ur management if they oredi change it to new Astro one. If not, bug them out or ask them to allow installation of your own dish.

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post Dec 11 2009, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 06:38 PM)
by the way i got two questions hopefully someone can answer me:

1) is it compulsory to change to b.yond?
2) i read few page back that wiring is free but i am connecting one decoder to two tvs in two separate roooms, so they going to do it for free?
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Not compulsory. If you want subscribe to HD then u get the box.

They only do RF wiring from dish to your decoder. From decoder to TV is ur own.

Aiyoo I should be paid for providing customer advice.

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post Dec 11 2009, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Dec 11 2009, 07:01 PM)
Is the 'Smart'card slotted all the way in or does it juts out like that?
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Wat do u think?

QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Dec 11 2009, 07:04 PM)
Okay I called them.

They have 4 HDMI ports so no need splitter and you can connect up to 4 TV. According to them, HDMI wiring will be provided up to 20 feet. Extra 1 feet = RM 2.50.
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Oiyoo u sure u call them?

QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Dec 11 2009, 08:21 PM)
T.T i prefer optical output

btw, is coaxial cable be given?
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Nope

QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 11 2009, 08:30 PM)
dream on.
what is the manufacturer and model number please... need to check on Harmony support
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I don't think it got harmony support yet.
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post Dec 11 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(attentional @ Dec 11 2009, 08:41 PM)
If he knows he don't need to ask la, what a douchebag.  doh.gif
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Thank you, Captain Obvious
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post Dec 12 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(moomoos @ Dec 12 2009, 07:57 AM)
bro....better check out properly 1st....

if you subscribe to HD channel, your old card will be diasbled cause you only have one account to switch over

if you want to keep the old one you must have 2 accounts, means double the $$$
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Yep.

QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 12 2009, 08:08 AM)
Why would a 1080p TV would not be as good as a 720p TV when watching 720p channel? Both are having the same aspect ratio.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 12 2009, 10:23 AM)
I'm just concerned that some of the movies in HBO are not even in original HD resolution.But they will be upscaled?
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not even in original HD resolution? You mean 720p? or 576i? then it will be upscaled.

QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 12 2009, 10:35 AM)
IMHO, its not worth paying for HD channels except for ardent sports viewers. the other channel content are mostly repeats and are good enough as SD.

the other issue is whether the HD content is upscaled from SD?
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Nope. HD content will come from HD content. Upscale has its limit.

QUOTE(kelvin @ Dec 12 2009, 10:48 AM)
Wonder the RJ45 (network) port is for what purpose ?
Just call up ASTRO, extra decoder have to pay RM20 per month as well. Meaning, if you have 2nd decoder (which you pay half of the master unit subscription fee), you need to pay extra RM40/month.  rclxub.gif
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Think it like this. You're rent the box actually. It has lifetime warranty and u need to surrender it back when u stop subscribe just like screamyx. Read the fine print. Its there.

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 12 2009, 11:58 AM)
So far any other review?

Wonder able to share this decoder with 2 TV or not? hmm.gif
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Can share with 3 TV actually. 1 HDMI, 1 composite and 1 component or you can buy HDMI splitter which cause about rm300 cheapest to rm800 a good one which can split to 4 TV from 1 box and all using HDMI. The only issue is getting the long HDMI cable which would be costly. And you can watch World Cup HD all in its glory while answering nature call.

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post Dec 14 2009, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Dec 14 2009, 11:45 AM)
i currently connect my astro to
1) PC
2) TV downstairs

they using the RF connector port, once change to astro byond, how to share it? guess have to change new cable? and how about control the remote
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Buy slingbox.

QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 14 2009, 01:42 PM)
I got a problem here. My cables (from the satellite dish) to the decoder had been concealed in the wall.

Do we need to change the cable completely? If yes, then I may have to hack the wall to chg the cable type.. wife is not going to like it.
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Don't need to change the cablelah. I test with my old dish and cable and it still works. No problemo.

QUOTE(smileguy @ Dec 14 2009, 01:44 PM)
Guys, my HD ready TV uses Component cables port .Can i buy HDMI to Component cable and use for Astro ?Or is it better to connect direct using Component cable RBG ? Infact most earlier sets all use Component only the latest have HDMI ports.pls help cry.gif
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Component can support high res (up till 1080i if I'm not mistaken) but astro box will output 576i only so better use HDMI to component and you get the about the same as HD.

QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 14 2009, 02:01 PM)
ok...let it clearly here...i already enjoying the hd byond...and for your info,the quality is better than usual, even sd channel...like b4, if u use the component cable, the picture will be more clear, now using the hdmi cable, for sure the quality of sd will be more...but dun aspect so much from la, better than before..
about the channel for hd, i think if anybody want to subscribe to hd, i think better do it now coz, later so many want to subscribe then u have to wait for ur turn....the 4 channel will start at 18 dec but, u think ar, if u subscribe now, its oni 3 days more and i think oni some of us will get it b4 18 rite...now they are playing hd channel on channel 100....and the picture, dun compare it la, sure like u watch the tv at shop with the bd player...u wont regret(from my own opinion)
they will change the cable, remote, decoder box and oso the dish...me got picture but better if somebody else put theirs here...
erm, i think all the info can get from the astro website...
the interface is better than b4, no more the blue bar....
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Congrat. Now u know what I see. So anybody who still decide whether want to subscribe or not, subscribe fast or you'll be in a vely vely long waiting list.

QUOTE(<2012> @ Dec 14 2009, 03:11 PM)
Does anyone know how to connect astro to the router?
And which software do I use to watch on my PC from the router?
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Router? rclxub.gif Anybody can answer this? I don't know how.


Added on December 14, 2009, 7:41 pm
QUOTE(daryl.k @ Dec 14 2009, 07:22 PM)
i can confirm that oso....sent them an email last saturday, got a phone call from them 10mins ago....

altho the lady on the phone doesnt sound like she knows an awful lot...she confirmed some of my worse fears...

1) none of the condo/apartment using centralized dish is B.yond ready, meaning they will have to replace everything.

2) she say will need to replace the cabling also..this kinda baffled me cos all units is ready with concealed wiring & tv point.  they can easily run new wiring in their risers, but how on earth they gonna go into each individual units & say "maam, can i come in hack your wall to conceal the new astro cables in order for you to enjoy HD?"  who gonna pay for the repair + painting works??

the only other way is to run those cabling on the surface which will be ugly as hell...

either way, i still dun understand how the gonna replace the cables...

3) astro currently 'working' with all building managements to replace current dish...estimated duration, 18-24months..

whatever it is, unless my management allows me to install individual dish on the wall (also need to borrow their gondola to install it) there's no way to enjoy HD...i'll be very jealous of you guys....very very jealous....

i'm wondering if i can start a petition to get the management to speed up the upgrading works  hmm.gif dunno how many souls in my condo as anxious as me getting HD content from astro  tongue.gif
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Its not easy woo to change all the cable and splitter. U'll need a new switch to split all the signal. The higher the building and the more unit in it the longer it take for upgrade. You are lucky if they manage to install it in 18 month.

Start the petition, get all owner to sign and give it to management. Don't forget petition Astro too to upgrade ur building first.

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post Dec 14 2009, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 14 2009, 08:01 PM)
Bro, u mean no need to chg cable and dish, still can receive the HD content ah?? Then why they need to chg the dish???
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Because they giving it out for free and new is better than old, isn't it?

QUOTE(kuekss @ Dec 14 2009, 10:16 PM)
now who get the astro b.yond already???
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TS already got. Go to his house and see lah.

QUOTE(twL @ Dec 14 2009, 10:25 PM)
i don mind to change my dish since i have using it over 10 years.

may i know,
why all of u no wanna change the new dish?
i think it is good for us what?
or the new dish have any disadvantage?

i jz want to know... smile.gif
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New dish is more advantage and new is betterlah. And not all didn't want to change. Only the ppl who dun wan to korek their wall dun wan to change.
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QUOTE(l_berd @ Dec 15 2009, 12:07 AM)
want to ask. im not an astro customer but would like to have the HD. so i need to regiter with standard package(at least) first in order to upgrade to astro byond. currently promotion is rm199 for the decoder (must activate before 15 jan 2010) and free installation. worth?
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Is that full package?


apexg2 is using camera phone. C the detail is still sharp although using phone.
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post Dec 15 2009, 11:30 AM

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He is one of the first to register that's y he got oredi.

U guys lambat lambat by feb oso tak dapat. Hurry register.

Heard that the quantity is very limited. Lambat then need to wait next order.

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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 15 2009, 04:18 PM)
I did not get any calls from ASTRO yet. Should I call them up and ask or they just dont care about me
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For those who apply through email or website, it is better to call them directly as the mail system will be swamped. Ask to confirm right that time.

QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Dec 15 2009, 04:38 PM)
Apexg2...
Can you take picture for the SD channels (eg normal National Geographic, TV3, RTM) ?
I wanna see whether it has pillarbox or not..
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Got pillarbox but can be stretched
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QUOTE(agingamer @ Dec 15 2009, 07:45 PM)
about the free installation -> does it include pulling the cables from ceiling to the living room?
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If it is too long, installer may charge u.

QUOTE(Ares187 @ Dec 15 2009, 07:57 PM)
hehehehe , maybe . We got to wait till they introduce more channel and see if they plan to charge us more
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Ur current HD cost is in the package oredi. The rm20 is for the box.

QUOTE(skorpius @ Dec 15 2009, 10:33 PM)
what's the use of getting HD channels, if when it rains we can only see black screen?
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IPTV next. No more rain fade

QUOTE(skorpius @ Dec 15 2009, 10:57 PM)
If they can spend so much in upgrading the infrastructure etc to offer the HD channels, why can't they spend to improve on this BIG problem that all of us Malaysians have been facing for years?

They better do something. We consumers are not that dumb to pay extra just to watch HD but don't see their service gets improved.
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To improve they will have to broadcast in C-Band. And you will have to install 2m+ dish. Imagine that. Ku-band sit on high frequency that y easier to be absorbed. It is like AM and FM. AM signal is stronger because it has long wavelength.

QUOTE(peter32 @ Dec 16 2009, 09:22 AM)
read about the rain effect on the Astro channel.

I read somewhere, some bright sparks found that wrapping the Satellite Dish Centre Stalk (the thing that stick out in the centre of the dish) with plastic bag, can improve reception during rain.

Perhaps some of you can try that.
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Nah, Myth. Can't see what it will improve. Do otherwise as the plastic reflect it aside.
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:47 PM)
then if want to use iptv, we have to use the fon cable just like streamyx la...about the speed?
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U screamyx!!!

QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Dec 16 2009, 01:26 PM)
gee, really?

they should put this info in the FAQ.
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Siriusly Bro u need to read. Panas.

QUOTE(pirateguy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:32 PM)
They called me 3rd time!

Now tell me I don't need to tell them my smart card ID to process my information. Such thing only applies to those having more than 1 smart card.

I think the operators must be newly hired staff to get ready for the Astro Byond requests.
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Nah, they just want to annoy u. Give IC number oso can.

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