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post Sep 11 2009, 02:25 PM, updated 16y ago

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Previous thread's:

â—™The New PROTON PERSONAâ—™
â—™The New PROTON PERSONAâ—™ V2
â—™The New PROTON PERSONAâ—™ V3
â—™The New PROTON PERSONAâ—™ V4
â—™The New PROTON PERSONAâ—™ V5

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post Sep 11 2009, 02:26 PM

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Wow soo fast!!!
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QUOTE(mensa @ Sep 11 2009, 11:50 AM)
so this figures consider normal for daily persona daily usage? IMHO if 50 kenot get 270- 300km consider high


You westerns can hv much better FC compared to here in Kuching. A lot of stop and go and city driving means very very high FC!!!


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gratzz on V6..

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post Sep 11 2009, 02:36 PM

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btw, i just realised last night from reading the user manual. Persona's AT is Invecs II???

Invecs is from Mitsubishi right? I thought Proton claimed since the Waja they are using their own stuffs?

The engine is purely malaysian designed and made or what? Got follow any Mitsu engines or not???


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post Sep 11 2009, 02:46 PM

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CONGRATS Persona V6 !!!


QUOTE(overfloe @ Sep 11 2009, 08:44 AM)
you almost got it spot on. it is near Shell and CIMB. opposite Maybank and same row as Watsons biggrin.gif  
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Wow...my wild guess was so chun ya...hahaha...
Thanks Overfloe, now I remember that shop already...
Thanks again.

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post Sep 11 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 11 2009, 02:36 PM)
btw, i just realised last night from reading the user manual. Persona's AT is Invecs II???

Invecs is from Mitsubishi right? I thought Proton claimed since the Waja they are using their own stuffs?

The engine is purely malaysian designed and made or what? Got follow any Mitsu engines or not???
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Gearbox is Mitsu.. if i'm remember correctly.

Campro is chapalang..the so-called reverse engineering.., and the result delivered is an "incomplete" product until CPS was released..u know what am i talking about, weird torque curve, lack of low end power...

Any proton engineer here care to clarify more ??
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post Sep 11 2009, 03:47 PM

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wow..V6 so fast..either Persona has a lot of fans or it has a lot problems..LOL

got my persona for about a month now..can add me..

mtlee-Metal Grey M Line (M)

as usual the problem stated here since V1 still exists..

CONS
1. 'kek kok' sound in front driver-side wheel when turning left.
2. alignment a bit to the left.
3. turn on air-cond for the first time there's a weird sound..but gradually will fade once on the road.
4. wiper spray not working.
5. some of the rubber fittings not up to mark.a bit loose here and there.
6. gear knob a bit stiff..especially when going down to 2nd gear..maybe it's because still in run-in phase.
7. the engine is very loud ( but not noticeable inside the car unless ur revving very high)
8. fuel cover looks and feel flimsy. doesn't feel long lasting. maybe it needs some WD40..
9. no place to put my shillings.LOL.

PROS
1. for this price, i guess there's not much to complain regarding the quality of the car. it looks more than it cost.
2. handling was better than i expected especially during corners. on bumpy roads it's even better than my other Altis.
3. the seats are more comfy IMHO than my previous WIRA although a bit smaller.
4. power wise for a 1.6 is quite impressive. although i think WAJA is better.
5. sound insulation is great (again for this range of cars..don't compare with Altis or BMW..lol)
6. boot space is HUGE...

FC is not bad, better than i expected (but since my last car was a fighter-jet-fuel-guzzling WIRA Auto 1.5 any improvement is big improvement).
i stay in ipoh, and for RM50 petrol i could get around 300k while driving at around 50-80kmph and not exceeding 3500rpm..

these are the obvious ones i noticed without REALLY checking yet..mileage around 750k so 1st service might take more of my time than expected..


Added on September 11, 2009, 3:50 pm
QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 11 2009, 03:25 PM)
Gearbox is Mitsu.. if i'm remember correctly.

Campro is chapalang..the so-called reverse engineering.., and the result delivered is an "incomplete" product until CPS was released..u know what am i talking about, weird torque curve, lack of low end power...

Any proton engineer here care to clarify more ??
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yeah..the 1st n 2nd gears lack a bit power..

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post Sep 11 2009, 04:21 PM

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Can someone enlighten us how is the sound system of Persona for M-Line and above? What brand is the headunit? Does it support Aux in, or the support is there just not connected? How are the speakers?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 11 2009, 04:21 PM)
Can someone enlighten us how is the sound system of Persona for M-Line and above? What brand is the headunit? Does it support Aux in, or the support is there just not connected? How are the speakers?
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my m-line has 4 speakers..2 back n 2 front..the head unit is a Blaupunkt (as with all protons) with mp3 support but no folder support (but still plays even if burned with folder,it play alphabetically).. support for Aux is there but there are no jacks at the head unit.. from the manual is says the connection is there at the back of the unit..sound is not bad..since i didn't install any tweeters,yet.. the bass sounds good for soft bass songs but sux in more hard bass songs.. treble is just average..volume can go up quite high until could hear from outside..but dare not try too loud scared burst the speakers.. lol..overall better than Myvi system..more in the range of Vios..unlike in toyota models when u mute the volume it paused the song..

and the radio reception is not as bad as some say.. but only m-line got 4 speakers and mp3..so that sux oso..
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Thanks for the info, so how much and which type do i need to have the Aux connected?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 11 2009, 05:14 PM)
Thanks for the info, so how much and which type do i need to have the Aux connected?
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i'm not sure how u connect it..seems like from the manual you need to DIY to connect the cable ( like connecting speaker cables ) from within the player..
maybe someone who has alredi done it can clarify this..
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QUOTE(necromencer @ Sep 11 2009, 11:28 AM)
It is your Belt Tensioner Bearing need to be replaced. Mine is the same.
Get it changed because it is still under warranty.
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QUOTE(mtlee @ Sep 11 2009, 05:01 PM)
my m-line has 4 speakers..2 back n 2 front..the head unit is a Blaupunkt (as with all protons) with mp3 support but no folder support (but still plays even if burned with folder,it play alphabetically)
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The HU play the MP3 alphabetically? Is there a shuffle function for playing MP3 on the stock HU?
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i guess wht he means thrs no folder support.. some other cars got folder support for their mp3, this one cant...
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Just saw the Persona commercial on Proton's website.

Persona's full tank really can go till 757 KM? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mzaidi @ Sep 11 2009, 08:45 PM)
Just saw the Persona commercial on Proton's website.

Persona's full tank really can go till 757 KM?  unsure.gif
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I drive a red SE since May. My all average mileage (urban+hiway) is 9.6lt/100km, 100 % accurate!. Assuming that my hiway mileage is 8.8lt/100 km, therefore a full tank worth of petrol at RM60.00 (33.33lts) would bring 378km only before the orange warning lamp lights up.

They say the Persona has a fuel tank capacity of 50 litres but I disagree as I cannot pump more than 65.00 (36.1lts) into my tank else it spills out.

OK so even assuming 50 litres of tank that would bring about 568km on the hiway, still a far cry from what Proton claimed.

The fuel consumption meter is not to be trusted.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89636


Added on September 11, 2009, 9:53 pmI have just went for my 3rd service @ 10000km.

I spent RM 14.75 for the oil filter and gasket drian plug. The oil I bought outside at 42.00 (Castrol Extra 20-50). I have specifically told the SC NOT to put in the engine and autotrans additives, accessories, car wash/engine wash etc etc etc.

Be prudent when you send in your car to Proton SC as they will slap you with a lot of hidden charges!






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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Sep 11 2009, 10:49 PM)
I drive a red SE since May.  My all average mileage (urban+hiway) is 9.6lt/100km, 100 % accurate!.  Assuming that my hiway mileage is 8.8lt/100 km, therefore a full tank worth of petrol at RM60.00 (33.33lts) would bring 378km only before the orange warning lamp lights up.

They say the Persona has a fuel tank capacity of 50 litres but I disagree as I cannot pump more than 65.00 (36.1lts) into my tank else it spills out.

OK so even assuming 50 litres of tank that would bring about 568km on the hiway, still a far cry from what Proton claimed.

The fuel consumption meter is not to be trusted.

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=89636


Added on September 11, 2009, 9:53 pmI have just went for my 3rd service @ 10000km.

I spent RM 14.75 for the oil filter and gasket drian plug.  The oil I bought outside at 42.00 (Castrol Extra 20-50).  I have specifically told the SC NOT to put in the engine and autotrans additives, accessories, car wash/engine wash etc etc etc.

Be prudent when you send in your car to Proton SC as they will slap you with a lot of hidden charges!
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dude...you said you've done ur 3rd service...so, we can use our OWN oil rather then using SC's synthium 800 rite?
i will be doing my 3rd service in 2 mths time....so i can asked the SC not to put their preferred black oil? cuz they charged about rm90++ for syntium damn!

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btw guys,

I am driving B-Line. Does the player support mp3? And where is the Aux?
Another thing, how come it does not have seat belt warning light?

Oh oh.... remember i said there was this "nyek nyek" sound at my right hand rear door??? I know what it was and it was solved by means of DIY. It was the sound of the door rubbers. What i did was i spray armor oil all over it and wiped it... So it leaves a little oily residue and makes it non squeaky.

And for the Persona fuel lid, i find that it swings too far that sometimes it touches the car body causing scratches. Mine got paint chipped a bit. So i did was hv it adjusted by P1. But still its way too close for comfort. So i DIY added a rubber stopper wedged in between the hinges so it sorta limits the travel. It works super nice now.

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 12 2009, 12:29 AM)
btw guys,

I am driving B-Line. Does the player support mp3? And where is the Aux?
Another thing, how come it does not have seat belt warning light?

Oh oh.... remember i said there was this "nyek nyek" sound at my right hand rear door??? I know what it was and it was solved by means of DIY. It was the sound of the door rubbers. What i did was i spray armor oil all over it and wiped it... So it leaves a little oily residue and makes it non squeaky.
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I am driving B-Line. Does the player support mp3? And where is the Aux?
A: B-line does not support MP3, ONLY M & H line.....there is no AUX.

Another thing, how come it does not have seat belt warning light?
A: Even for the H-line it does not blink when seat belts are buckle-up. its just for "show"
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 11 2009, 11:29 PM)
btw guys,

I am driving B-Line. Does the player support mp3? And where is the Aux?
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Only M-Line & H-Line comes with MP3 Head Unit. The Aux is at the back of the Head Unit.
Not sure if B-Line Head Unit comes with Aux Input or not.
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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 11 2009, 11:36 PM)
I am driving B-Line. Does the player support mp3? And where is the Aux?
A: B-line does not support MP3, ONLY M & H line.....there is no AUX.

Another thing, how come it does not have seat belt warning light?
A: Even for the H-line it does not blink when seat belts are buckle-up. its just for "show"
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Okay thanks dude for ur replies. And the seatbelt light thingy... wth man? Even H line do not have that light? I wonder what are those indicators for in the first place hahaha....

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 12 2009, 12:41 AM)
Okay thanks dude for ur replies. And the seatbelt light thingy... wth man? Even H line do not have that light? I wonder what are those indicators for in the first place hahaha....
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 11 2009, 11:41 PM)
Okay thanks dude for ur replies. And the seatbelt light thingy... wth man? Even H line do not have that light? I wonder what are those indicators for in the first place hahaha....
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at last V6... congrats! rclxms.gif

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a motorist hit n smashed out my right tail lamp..how much to change a new one..jaz the right one sad.gif
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So can you guys compile a list of what we shouldn't accept when we service our cars to avoid paying our money unecessarily? Or if we follow the service book all is ok?

Also what are the stuffs you guys recommend we buy ourselve and bring to service centre? Care to share what brand/model?



QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Sep 11 2009, 09:49 PM)
Be prudent when you send in your car to Proton SC as they will slap you with a lot of hidden charges!
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darn.. too late to made it on the first page cry.gif

looks like now my engine area is producing non-stop "ktak-ktak-ktak-ktak" sound ... headache rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 05:41 AM)
darn.. too late to made it on the first page  cry.gif

looks like now my engine area is producing non-stop "ktak-ktak-ktak-ktak" sound ... headache  rclxub.gif
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its IAFM manifold prob , send it to SC..they'll fix it for you for free, if u still got waranty.
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QUOTE(ryugan @ Sep 12 2009, 06:02 AM)
its IAFM manifold prob , send it to SC..they'll fix it for you for free, if u still got waranty.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 12 2009, 01:34 AM)
So can you guys compile a list of what we shouldn't accept when we service our cars to avoid paying our money unecessarily? Or if we follow the service book all is ok?

Also what are the stuffs you guys recommend we buy ourselve and bring to service centre? Care to share what brand/model?
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From my many years of experience in driving and owning a new car before....

- Engine oil
- Oil filter
- ATF oil (for auto obviously)
- Brake oil
- Radiator coolant
- Power steering oil (very rarely to change)
- Air filter
- Spark plugs

The above is all there is to it. Nothing more. Yes they will push you to buy oil treatment etc etc etc to suck ur moneyflies.gif . Just say no. flex.gif

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 12 2009, 07:53 AM)
From my many years of experience in driving and owning a new car before....

-  Engine oil
-  Oil filter
-  ATF oil (for auto obviously)
-  Brake oil
-  Radiator coolant

-  Power steering oil (very rarely to change)

The above is all there is to it. Nothing more. Yes they will push you to buy oil treatment etc etc etc to suck ur  moneyflies.gif . Just say no.  flex.gif
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yeap.....the red ones are is decent to protect and keep the car in tiptop condition....and airfilter,sparkplugs as well laugh.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 12 2009, 09:16 AM)
yeap.....the red ones are is decent to protect and keep the car in tiptop condition....and airfilter,sparkplugs as well laugh.gif
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oh yah. forgot those two. added it into the list already...


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Just got back form the sc repairing my iafm. it turned out they need to cut a bit part of the iafm, then the sound is no more. I asked the mechanic, he said by default the factory assembled the wrong size of one part in iafm. So basically, each persona owner should be screwed laugh.gif

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The iafm i think. forgot to take the part he modified

So far most of my problems are no more, except for the infamous metal-hitting on the right front tire.
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 10:07 AM)
Just got back form the sc repairing my iafm. it turned out they need to cut a bit part of the iafm, then the sound is no more. I asked the mechanic, he said by default the factory assembled the wrong size of one part in iafm. So basically, each persona owner should be screwed  laugh.gif

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The iafm i think. forgot to take the part he modified

So far most of my problems are no more, except for the infamous metal-hitting on the right front tire.
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Whoa. really? any more photos of which you took to see more clearly? Care to explain more in details dude?
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 10:07 AM)
Just got back form the sc repairing my iafm. it turned out they need to cut a bit part of the iafm, then the sound is no more. I asked the mechanic, he said by default the factory assembled the wrong size of one part in iafm. So basically, each persona owner should be screwed  laugh.gif

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The iafm i think. forgot to take the part he modified

So far most of my problems are no more, except for the infamous metal-hitting on the right front tire.
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which SC you visit dude?
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So do we have to use Proton's parts or can some of the below mentioned be purchased ourselves, as I believe like Engine Oil it would be cheaper, but what brand and type of oil? I hear 3rd party filter will void warranty, what about better spark plugs?

What about Manual Transmissions? Do I need fluids?


QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 12 2009, 07:53 AM)
From my many years of experience in driving and owning a new car before....

-  Engine oil
-  Oil filter
-  ATF oil (for auto obviously)
-  Brake oil
-  Radiator coolant
-  Power steering oil (very rarely to change)
-  Air filter
-  Spark plugs

The above is all there is to it. Nothing more. Yes they will push you to buy oil treatment etc etc etc to suck ur  moneyflies.gif . Just say no.  flex.gif
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 12 2009, 10:24 AM)
Whoa. really? any more photos of which you took to see more clearly? Care to explain more in details dude?
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thats what the mech told me blush.gif I'm sorry, that was the only pic i took. U can find this part on the engine side, near the brake fluid. It should got the Bosch brand on it. Details..... well, if your engine starts giving ktak sound loudly, it is time laugh.gif

QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Sep 12 2009, 10:56 AM)
which SC you visit dude?
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Speaking of which, i sprayed wd40 on my fuel cover since i saw a few weeks ago in serdang a black persona without its fuel cover attached leaving the fuel cap exposed doh.gif if i'm not mistaken, bro ralf also faced the same problem right?
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 12:09 PM)
thats what the mech told me  blush.gif  I'm sorry, that was the only pic i took. U can find this part on the engine side, near the brake fluid. It should got the Bosch brand on it. Details..... well, if your engine starts giving ktak sound loudly, it is time  laugh.gif
sc at taman perindustrian Bukit Serdang
Speaking of which, i sprayed wd40 on my fuel cover since i saw a few weeks ago in serdang a black persona  without its fuel cover attached leaving the fuel cap exposed  doh.gif  if i'm not mistaken, bro ralf also faced the same problem right?
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yeap, my fuel cover broken.

I have to drive other car to work, wink.gif car sitting in car porch for a week time..cannot drive out coz takut someone throw rubbish into petrol tank. wink.gif
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Anyone try the eneos semi 5w-30 on proton persona before? izzit suit for persona? If bring our own engine oil to sc to do the service will void the warranty? or they just record down what oils is using?

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QUOTE(jack111 @ Sep 12 2009, 02:35 PM)
Anyone try the eneos semi 5w-30 on proton persona before? izzit suit for persona? If bring our own engine oil to sc to do the service will void the warranty? or they just record down what oils is using?
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depends on the SC......try taking eneos semi 10w40....for that, i had used before..the oil consider thin compare to different oils........its not bad....lighter pedal...or u can just get Mobil Super 2000.......its much better......im had changed 2times, engine remain smooth as baby butt brows.gif
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30 too light for the engine? cuz i seriously would like to use lighter oils. the oil proton using is too thick. if not mistaken its 50 rite?

fully synthetic or not, no matter what, a lighter oil is always resulting in a nicer better drive.
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 10:07 AM)
Just got back form the sc repairing my iafm. it turned out they need to cut a bit part of the iafm, then the sound is no more. I asked the mechanic, he said by default the factory assembled the wrong size of one part in iafm. So basically, each persona owner should be screwed  laugh.gif

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different situtation with mine, sweat.gif
same problem but it took 1 month , they need to change my Iafm parts.
now no more sound like diesel engine laugh.gif
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So the eneos 5w-30 is still suit to use and wont be too thin for persona rite? coz i just bought it and think to use it for my persona(which recommend by the spare part shop)........anyway, how much for the mobil 2000 ?
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So can you guys compile a list of what we shouldn't accept when we service our cars to avoid paying our money unecessarily? Or if we follow the service book all is ok?

Also what are the stuffs you guys recommend we buy ourselve and bring to service centre? Care to share what brand/model?
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2. all oil additives like X1R etc etc

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Yes you can bring your own oil as long as 20W-50. You have to assert, repeat, ASSERT, your rights and do not have to accept the brand that is thrown to you.

They will use the flimsy excuse that the oil you bought from a particular hypermart might be fake and spoil the engine. You can counter by saying that the oil that they are pushing might also be fake or you can challenge them by writing a letter that all oils from that popular hypermart is fake.








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Hey jack111,

I think your SC might have problem with that lube because its too thin for Campro. Modern engines should be able to use thin lubes because they have much smaller manufacturing tolerance compared to the 90's, but honestly I would think its too thin for our engines. 30's have lower ability to withstand shearing at high temperature, and you know Campro is pretty hot after you run it for a while, plus our hot climate. However, if you still insist on using it and the SC says some crap about it, you can show your Persona manual pg. 123, "Selection of engine oil" and the only two requirements are API SJ and SAE 20w-50.

Every SC has the tendency to treat you like they know more than you, but I would recommend our fellow forummers to build good relationship with your SC, if you want to get things done. If you think you've got a point, give them a smile and tell them why you think some things should be done in different way smile.gif.

Proton has done good work in consolidating their vendors, and the next step moving forward would be to work on their after sales service, provide "customer service 101" to those sitting at the counters and provide incentives to keep the more experienced mechanics from running away from Proton SC.
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QUOTE(jack111 @ Sep 12 2009, 05:53 PM)
So the eneos 5w-30 is still suit to use and wont be too thin for persona rite? coz i just bought it and think to use it for my persona(which recommend by the spare part shop)........anyway, how much for the mobil 2000 ?
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RM98....yeah..still ok..but 10w40 or 5w40 is the best in terms of protection and lightness.....


btw....with full tank of petrol, and driving style rev till 4000rpm, 80km-130km, 70% city ( mostly straight road but jam,slow traffic,heavy braking and housing area or street) and 30% highway...i can get 310km++...
aircond on all the time and automatic.....

and i feel that the higher the mileage the better fuel consumption and going topspeed is much faster....btw the current mileage is 38325km laugh.gif

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damn...my front passenger dock lock cannot go down or up automatically, have to do it manually...
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 12 2009, 11:55 PM)
damn...my front passenger dock lock cannot go down or up automatically, have to do it manually...
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 12 2009, 11:55 PM)
damn...my front passenger dock lock cannot go down or up automatically, have to do it manually...
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anyone experienced the "kok" sound at driver front right side AFTER the left turning???
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
anyone experienced the "kok" sound at driver front right side AFTER the left turning???
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yea its a very famous problem.

I discovered the noise in less than 24 hours of ownership.
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 13 2009, 12:20 AM)
yea its a very famous problem.

I discovered the noise in less than 24 hours of ownership.
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izit very loud ar?
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QUOTE(KKW @ Sep 13 2009, 12:22 AM)
izit very loud ar?
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ermm.... how loud is it.... this really depends on individual hearing. For me, its obvious.
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 13 2009, 12:25 AM)
ermm.... how loud is it.... this really depends on individual hearing. For me, its obvious.
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 12 2009, 05:14 PM)
depends on the SC......try taking eneos semi 10w40....for that, i had used before..the oil consider thin compare to different oils........its not bad....lighter pedal...or u can just get Mobil Super 2000.......its much better......im had changed 2times, engine remain smooth as baby butt brows.gif
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dude..care to suggest more engine oil apart from eneos & mobil......if can recommend me best oil for persona.
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
anyone experienced the "kok" sound at driver front right side AFTER the left turning???
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every persona owner will experience it gradually laugh.gif I asked the mech about that problem. He said even hq also still haven't come up with the solution. After a few years of releasing the persona, still cannot solve? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 13 2009, 04:41 AM)
every persona owner will experience it gradually  laugh.gif  I asked the mech about that problem. He said even hq also still haven't come up with the solution. After a few years of releasing the persona, still cannot solve?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 13 2009, 03:04 AM)
dude..care to suggest more engine oil apart from eneos & mobil......if can recommend me best oil for persona.
thanks! smile.gif
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ok....based on my experience since i had used eneos 10w40 and mobil super 2000 10w40......well i would say both oils are good.....but due to the availability of the engine oils, mobil is easier to get and both are price around the same price Eneos RM97 & Mobil RM98(RM93 after using smiles card)....
acceleration wise both pretty much the same and i felt mobil super is much lighter and rev happy......if u want to get mobil, make sure purchase it ONLY @ petrol station.....
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hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM)
hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...
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i did 195 km/h already.bcoz one of myvi's pissed me off. tongue.gif . tail braking
blm can reach 180 to..but took a long time to reach 180kmh.
btw urs auto or manual?
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turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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QUOTE(nsty @ Sep 12 2009, 07:43 PM)
Hey jack111,

I think your SC might have problem with that lube because its too thin for Campro. Modern engines should be able to use thin lubes because they have much smaller manufacturing tolerance compared to the 90's, but honestly I would think its too thin for our engines. 30's have lower ability to withstand shearing at high temperature, and you know Campro is pretty hot after you run it for a while, plus our hot climate. However, if you still insist on using it and the SC says some crap about it, you can show your Persona manual pg. 123, "Selection of engine oil" and the only two requirements are API SJ and SAE 20w-50.

Every SC has the tendency to treat you like they know more than you, but I would recommend our fellow forummers to build good relationship with your SC, if you want to get things done. If you think you've got a point, give them a smile and tell them why you think some things should be done in different way smile.gif.

Proton has done good work in consolidating their vendors, and the next step moving forward would be to work on their after sales service, provide "customer service 101" to those sitting at the counters and provide incentives to keep the more experienced mechanics from running away from Proton SC.
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I just change the engine oil at proton sc by using the eneos 5w-30. The sc told me that they will record down that i bring my own oils so next time if any problem occur coz of the engine oil will void the warranty...... But since my car only 10month and just reach 15000Km, so do u think there is big problem to use the eneos oil?
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QUOTE(ryugan @ Sep 13 2009, 11:06 AM)
i did 195 km/h already.bcoz one of myvi's pissed me off. tongue.gif . tail braking
blm can reach 180 to..but took a long time to reach 180kmh.
btw urs auto or manual?
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oh really...didnt know that hahaha...i believe that BLM is on M/T...im driving A/T and got 3 of us in the car...the BLM 1 person only haha...

QUOTE(apahal @ Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get  to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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nice tips there...will off my a/c later ahaha...


Added on September 13, 2009, 11:14 amany of u guys changed filter to open pod style? any recommended brand to use for open pod / drop in?

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QUOTE(Asus @ Sep 13 2009, 11:01 AM)
hey guys whats the top speed for persona a/t ?? yesterday i tried till 180 but dont dare to go higher than that...tried to catch a saga BLM but the BLM is much faster than me lol...1.3 can tapau 1.6 anytime...even at 180 i cant potong that BLM...

any simple mod to make the persona pickup faster? can feel that the car a bit heavy...
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mine is non-iafm automatic also.......most of the time will touch 190km with no dropping gear and hard revving...just smoothly pressing the pedal.....when wanna go topspeed, just turn off aircond...it give less stress on the engine and thus, it will give u more power.....if u on aircond, it will reach 190km or (195km) (tested on klia with 3people in the car) but slower compare to OFF completely..... brows.gif brows.gif


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QUOTE(apahal @ Sep 13 2009, 11:10 AM)
turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get  to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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nod.gif nod.gif .....even at 180/190km+++...the steering still did not vibrate...but stability definately persona much better than blm but neo,gen2 is much better than persona..so persona is in between.... laugh.gif

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hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up? I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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QUOTE(cktang @ Sep 13 2009, 12:12 PM)
hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up?  I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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total 2 bulbs on the left and on the right....the most outside bulb is braking and normal light......go get it replaced.....mine after so long nearly 2years..the bulbs still ok...havent burn yet.. wink.gif
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Just now i overfill petrol, the pump noozle didn't click after full.. few hundreds Ml petrol spill out, my pants get dirty..very embarrass vmad.gif

total amount: rm66.01
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QUOTE(cktang @ Sep 13 2009, 12:12 PM)
hi all persona owners, i hav questions about the tail light of persona. If I turn on the lamp is it all the 4 bulb of the tail lamp will be lights up?  I always observing GEN2/persona on the road at night or braking, one of the 4 bulb will not lights up. I checked mine yesterday and found out my left rear light one of the bulb didn't lights up. Mine is a SE 9 months, is it the tail light bulb so fast and easily to be burn? How much does it cost to replace the bulb?
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mine, 3rd brake light..2 bulbs already blow.. doh.gif Thinking of replace all those light with WHITE led..and longer lifespan too brows.gif

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 13 2009, 09:50 AM)
ok....based on my experience since i had used eneos 10w40 and mobil super 2000 10w40......well i would say both oils are good.....but due to the availability of the engine oils, mobil is easier to get and both are price around the same price Eneos RM97 & Mobil RM98(RM93 after using smiles card)....
acceleration wise both pretty much the same and i felt mobil super is much lighter and rev happy......if u want to get mobil, make sure purchase it ONLY @ petrol station.....
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juz finish 1k serv yesterday.. no choice, have to take that syntium 800, since i didn bring my own motor oil.. felt so weird... well.. for next service, i shall consider mobil 2000..

anybody tried castrol? i saw at assembly plant of dmax.. they use castrol..
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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 13 2009, 02:03 PM)
Just now i overfill petrol, the pump noozle didn't click after full.. few hundreds Ml petrol spill out, my pants get dirty..very embarrass vmad.gif

total amount: rm66.01
total distance: 302km
FC meter: 10.9L/100km
average consumption: rm0.2185 cents  shakehead.gif


Added on September 13, 2009, 2:07 pm

mine, 3rd brake light..2 bulbs already blow.. doh.gif Thinking of replace all those light with WHITE led..and longer lifespan too brows.gif
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QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Sep 13 2009, 03:04 PM)
juz finish 1k serv yesterday.. no choice, have to take that syntium 800, since i didn bring my own motor oil..  felt so weird...  well.. for next service, i shall consider mobil 2000..

anybody tried castrol? i saw at assembly plant of dmax.. they use castrol..
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try to avoid castrol if can....cause there are too many imitations/fakes...which you cannot even differentiate it well....but the oil is good..la...but for me, i rather get some other brands that can purchase @ trusted shops like petrol station kiosk where the chances of getting fake is unlikely....
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jack111,

Yes they will keep a record of what oil did you bring, but I can tell you that as long as its a API SJ or higher and the oil comes from a reputable company, you'll be safe. Surely they'll use scare tactics like voiding your warranty so that you'll buy oil from them. However you should always keep an eye on your oil level and always check using the dipstick if the engine consumes the thin oil. Once in a while you should take the dipstick out, hold the stick straight and see if the oil drips down quickly like water, if this is the case your engine will have higher wear than usual. Another indicator would be when you start the engine in the morning, you hear "chit chit chit" sound in the beginning then it goes away, sign that your oil isn't doing its job well.

Most of the engine wear occurs during cold starting in the morning, because throughout the night the oil will drop down along with the pull of gravity. In the morning when you start the engine, essentially your cylinder walls are almost dry (if your lube is too thin), but if you use a good lube, it will stick on the walls throughout the day, providing a "boundary lubrication" as we call it which prevents wear caused by engine cold start. So, take good note of the starting of your engine in the morning - if you hear a chit chit sound initially and then it goes away, it means the oil isn't doing enough to protect your engine smile.gif

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The funny thing is bulb wasn't blown...the 4 bulbs and tail lamp from left to right, A B C D. When I turn on the lights only B, C, D lights on. When I press the brake pedal, all A, B, C, D lights up. Should be something wrong with the electronic's configurations.

For engine oil I used syntium 800 syntectic@rm98 at the SC. The grade should be 15w - 50. I think the grade like 5w - 30 is not suitable as it's for 3 cylinder car like kancil, kelisa...according to mechanic at the tyre shop. Lower number is to protects the engine when cold, it can be 0w no matter but the higher number should be 50 or at least 40 for persona to protect against high temperature running.

Just did the 10,000km service last month and the next service should be 20,000km told by the SC. But the oil changed sticker stated there 15,000km, last time at SC I saw a customer bringing the car for service at 15,000km and the SC told her it's unnessary. I think I'll do the oil change in tyre shop and do the alignment & balancing together.

Plan to shift to shell helix when reaching 15,000km as I always used shell petrol. Using shell RON 95 now, does feels abit sluggish when pick up or 'naik bukit'. FC meter showns 7.6l/100km but the last tank I pumped RM65@RM1.80/l aroung 36 litre runs until 375 km. So actual FC is around 9.6l/100km. Haven't tried to fill in petrol more then 40 litre, the petrol will spilled out from the tank. Highest I filled is rm68@rm1.75/l ron 95 38.85 liter after running another 60km after the fuel warning lights on and refuel again after 350km. The car never be able to fill in more the 40liter fuel although stated 50 liter fuel tank capacity. Never able to runs over 400km for a full tank, highest only reaching 380 km. blink.gif


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Am considering normal clutch lock club & installation type clutch lock, would like to know which one is better?

Do normal clutch/brake lock compatible on personas, I saw 1 selling at rm129? The installation type is double the price but don't need to remove just use the key to unlock.
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was driving with almost a zero visibility due to the low clouds. The foglights were helping really much. Still can do a rapid climb on 2nd gear despite now on ron95. But caltex gave me slighter good power and less engine noise compared to petronas.

but nevertheless, with this kind of visibility, can only climb with the first gear. If 2nd, later scared hit the barrier laugh.gif

Next climb, Balik Pulau, in the next 2 weeks icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(apahal @ Sep 13 2009, 12:10 PM)
turn off your a/c and you'll see that blm disappear from your sight .. plus, blm won't get  to do more than 180 i think... stability-wise, persona more stable at high speed.
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there's a blm which did ard 190 chase my back during d PD trip last yr shocking.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 13 2009, 10:50 AM)
ok....based on my experience since i had used eneos 10w40 and mobil super 2000 10w40......well i would say both oils are good.....but due to the availability of the engine oils, mobil is easier to get and both are price around the same price Eneos RM97 & Mobil RM98(RM93 after using smiles card)....
acceleration wise both pretty much the same and i felt mobil super is much lighter and rev happy......if u want to get mobil, make sure purchase it ONLY @ petrol station.....
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thanks for the reply dude...10w40 is semi / full -synthetic? is 10w40 considered as thin oil?.....few days back i just try caltex as u recommend...so far cant notice the different since there are few liters of petronas fuel too...i found out Havoline 10w40 is selling for rm97 at caltex station....thought of using caltex engine oil for my 3rd service....will the proton warranty void?

one more question:
is it true if my engine oil is Havoline(caltex) + my regular pump is caltex..then ONLY i will get the TRUE performance for my car. do you agree with this statement?
or it doesn't matter?


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QUOTE(nsty @ Sep 13 2009, 07:19 PM)
jack111,

Yes they will keep a record of what oil did you bring, but I can tell you that as long as its a API SJ or higher and the oil comes from a reputable company, you'll be safe. Surely they'll use scare tactics like voiding your warranty so that you'll buy oil from them. However you should always keep an eye on your oil level and always check using the dipstick if the engine consumes the thin oil. Once in a while you should take the dipstick out, hold the stick straight and see if the oil drips down quickly like water, if this is the case your engine will have higher wear than usual. Another indicator would be when you start the engine in the morning, you hear "chit chit chit" sound in the beginning then it goes away, sign that your oil isn't doing its job well.

Most of the engine wear occurs during cold starting in the morning, because throughout the night the oil will drop down along with the pull of gravity. In the morning when you start the engine, essentially your cylinder walls are almost dry (if your lube is too thin), but if you use a good lube, it will stick on the walls throughout the day, providing a "boundary lubrication" as we call it which prevents wear caused by engine cold start. So, take good note of the starting of your engine in the morning - if you hear a chit chit sound initially and then it goes away, it means the oil isn't doing enough to protect your engine smile.gif
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nsty,

good share of experience there dude..

i do have experience a sound after cold start as you mention.....now i get an idea due to wht the sound occurs...anyway my 3rd service are coming soon....i would appreciate if you recommend me a reliable engine oil...cuz i dont want to use that damn syntium 800 which the SC provided.


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was driving with almost a zero visibility due to the low clouds. The foglights were helping really much. Still can do a rapid climb on 2nd gear despite now on ron95. But caltex gave me slighter good power and less engine noise compared to petronas.

but nevertheless, with this kind of visibility, can only climb with the first gear. If 2nd, later scared hit the barrier  laugh.gif

Next climb, Balik Pulau, in the next 2 weeks  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so u r a regular caltex user?

wht engine oil did u used?

care to clarify dude.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 14 2009, 01:29 AM)
so u r a regular caltex user?

wht engine oil did u used?

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Nope, was a petronas user laugh.gif When they started the ron95, i was still using petronas. I can felt the lack of power and my engine was noisier. Plus, my engine and hood will normally resonate a bit loudly around 2800rpm on 1st gear. But when using caltex, the resonance sound reduced a bit and gained some power compared to primax95 (but if course can't beat ron97's power). I started to use caltex when saw the advertisement on paultan and also bro loong comment after using it smile.gif (despite the nearest caltex station located around 4 - 5km from my house sweat.gif )

i'm using shell helix hx7 10w-40, provided by sc

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there's a blm which did ard 190 chase my back during d PD trip last yr  shocking.gif
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BLM did 190kmh..with that kind of soft and gentle suspension, not so grippy tyre. I dare not gamble my life even with my PerSona..i only speed..but not that crazzey to push to the limit.
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Hi guys. Please assist me in telling me what rim size and tire series is this. I am looking for this look. Some said is 16 inch rims with 50 series tires.

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Hi guys. Please assist me in telling me what rim size and tire series is this. I am looking for this look. Some said is 16 inch rims with 50 series tires.

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It is either a 205/50/16 or 215/45/17...

From the picture, this car is slap with Yoko AD07 tire.. brows.gif
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Someone please reconfirm again please? Cuz i dun wan to regret later. How nice if i know the dude that owns that car. sigh...

Thanks dudes...
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I compiled a list for P1 SC to rectify.

I wonder if they will be rclxub.gif when they look at my compilation or not. blink.gif
Compared to my previous car (MyVi auto) this list of problems are not as serious. My MyVi had serious problems like disc brake warped, steering rack noise... I think i claimed like 10k worth of parts including a massive gearbox leak.... TWICE.

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QAR? kuching right? where you get ur persona? proton main branch? my b-line still less problem only the engine dead once due to IAFM failure... but fixed right away only with srcewdriver... what a pro mech..
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QAR? kuching right? where you get ur persona? proton main branch? my b-line still less problem only the engine dead once due to IAFM failure... but fixed right away only with srcewdriver... what a pro mech..
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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 14 2009, 01:29 AM)
thanks for the reply dude...10w40 is semi / full -synthetic? is 10w40 considered as thin oil?.....few days back i just try caltex as u recommend...so far cant notice the different since there are few liters of petronas fuel too...i found out Havoline 10w40 is selling for rm97 at caltex station....thought of using caltex engine oil for my 3rd service....will the proton warranty void?

one more question:
is it true if my engine oil is Havoline(caltex) + my regular pump is caltex..then ONLY i will get the TRUE performance for my car. do you agree with this statement?
or it doesn't matter?
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erm, at first pump...the effect can felt a bit different...but after 2nd or 3rd tank....i feel its much better than bhp ron95x2......havent compare with shell or petronas so im not sure.... the 10w40 is semi-synthetic......the oil is just nice for FC and also protection for campro engines.....

well using caltex engine oil with caltex fuel.....maybe better...BUT i dont think it effect so much...some may say yes some may not..up to the people view......


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was driving with almost a zero visibility due to the low clouds. The foglights were helping really much. Still can do a rapid climb on 2nd gear despite now on ron95. But caltex gave me slighter good power and less engine noise compared to petronas.

but nevertheless, with this kind of visibility, can only climb with the first gear. If 2nd, later scared hit the barrier  laugh.gif

Next climb, Balik Pulau, in the next 2 weeks  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow..congrats..urs manual right???.....got corner or not??... brows.gif

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wow..congrats..urs manual right???.....got corner or not??... brows.gif
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lulz.. yea manual. Well, to be honest, the downhill part was the scariest. My tyres locked a few times, lucky got a bit skills and the engine braking to save my arse sweat.gif Basically, i think persona way too much weight on front. Abs and Ebd suppose to be a-must for each persona (want to buy h-line, but no manual rclxub.gif )
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 14 2009, 05:40 PM)
lulz.. yea manual. Well, to be honest, the downhill part was the scariest. My tyres locked a few times, lucky got a bit skills and the engine braking to save my arse  sweat.gif  Basically, i think persona way too much weight on front. Abs and Ebd suppose to be a-must for each persona (want to buy h-line, but no manual  rclxub.gif )
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me ok je......coming down the highest part i drop to L and let the car roll by itself and with some braking (cornering or humps) and slowly switch to 2 when the rpm is high...and i dont experience lock tires....using stock brakes?? and what tires??? brows.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 14 2009, 07:26 PM)
me ok je......coming down the highest part i drop to L and let the car roll by itself and with some braking (cornering or humps) and slowly switch to 2 when the rpm is high...and i dont experience lock tires....using stock brakes?? and what tires??? brows.gif
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haha, u sifoo mah, sure no tyre lock tongue.gif i just maintain 2nd gear all the time (3rd gear when a bit long straight). persona brake not really makan like saga blm, if pressed too hard, lock pulak rclxub.gif

yup, stock brake pads and tyres laugh.gif goodyear nct5, so-so on the grip, quite good in wet. Oh yea, u are using pp2, no wonder tyres still can maintain >.> Haih, my tire 195/60 really lack of choice compared to 195/55 cry.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 14 2009, 07:52 PM)
haha, u sifoo mah, sure no tyre lock  tongue.gif i just maintain 2nd gear all the time (3rd gear when a bit long straight). persona brake not really makan like saga blm, if pressed too hard, lock pulak  rclxub.gif

yup, stock brake pads and tyres  laugh.gif  goodyear nct5, so-so on the grip, quite good in wet. Oh yea, u are using pp2, no wonder tyres still can maintain >.> Haih, my tire 195/60 really lack of choice compared to 195/55  cry.gif
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previously was conti cc1.....went up 2times with my friends......ok..la..i would say BUT...its also easier to lock if the road wet and want to corner... rclxub.gif but never experience it on genting trip..... now with PP2 havent test yet on going up...maybe when holiday... laugh.gif but PP2 on wet even brake harder it wont easily lock.... brows.gif ......aiya..persona stock tires 195/60.....change it to 195/55 like me....comfort wise still not bad and better handling also...less floaty feel when speeding........ laugh.gif
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can anyone confirm to me speaker size at d back? TQ wink.gif
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Hi guys. Please assist me in telling me what rim size and tire series is this. I am looking for this look. Some said is 16 inch rims with 50 series tires.

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This looks more like 15", the wheels don't look that big and the tyres aren't that low profile.

Actually if you use a ruler you can roughly scale the size of the wheels...

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I was away for near to 3 weeks. before i left the country, my car still had slightly more than half tank of Ron97 Primax3 left. Drove until low fuel indicator light lid up, only covered 387km.

Then i go pump Shell Ron95. First time trying Ron95. Pumped rm70 and now, i still got more than 1 quarter tank left and i already travelled 360km. Seems like Ron95 does give me more mileage. Can also feel that it has more power as compared to Ron97. Can feel the difference right after fill up with Ron95 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 14 2009, 04:38 AM)
Nope, was a petronas user  laugh.gif  When they started the ron95, i was still using petronas. I can felt the lack of power and my engine was noisier. Plus, my engine and hood will normally resonate a bit loudly around 2800rpm on 1st gear. But when using caltex, the resonance sound reduced a bit and gained some power compared to primax95 (but if course can't beat ron97's power). I started to use caltex when saw the advertisement on paultan and also bro loong comment after using it  smile.gif (despite the nearest caltex station located around 4 - 5km from my house  sweat.gif  )

i'm using shell helix hx7 10w-40, provided by sc
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 14 2009, 06:20 PM)
erm, at first pump...the effect can felt a bit different...but after 2nd or 3rd tank....i feel its much better than bhp ron95x2......havent compare with shell or petronas so im not sure.... the 10w40 is semi-synthetic......the oil is just nice for FC and also protection for campro engines.....

well using caltex engine oil with caltex fuel.....maybe better...BUT i dont think it effect so much...some may say yes some may not..up to the people view......


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wow..congrats..urs manual right???.....got corner or not??... brows.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 14 2009, 04:38 AM)
Nope, was a petronas user  laugh.gif  When they started the ron95, i was still using petronas. I can felt the lack of power and my engine was noisier. Plus, my engine and hood will normally resonate a bit loudly around 2800rpm on 1st gear. But when using caltex, the resonance sound reduced a bit and gained some power compared to primax95 (but if course can't beat ron97's power). I started to use caltex when saw the advertisement on paultan and also bro loong comment after using it  smile.gif (despite the nearest caltex station located around 4 - 5km from my house  sweat.gif  )

i'm using shell helix hx7 10w-40, provided by sc
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dude..since ur engine oil is helix hx7....hows the engine performed?....and did felt any differences when u pump shell fuel compare to petronas & caltex.. icon_question.gif

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guys, how is persona quality? rosak here and there or not? sigh... takut la if need to buyproton

and what is IAFM? tried googling to no avail
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Sep 15 2009, 07:48 AM)
guys, how is persona quality? rosak here and there or not? sigh... takut la if need to buyproton

and what is IAFM? tried googling to no avail
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the quality actually is not bad considering the price and it's 'proton'..lol.. the problem all stated here are actually manufacturing problems,most ntg to do wif the engine and can be fix by SC..

for IAFM, see here for more info..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine...pro_IAFM_engine

but most is technical info..but can be summarize as DOHC engine with more power..lol.. it tends to rev a bit longer so for ppl who change gear faster (manual) it provides more power (i think so..lol).. mine is a manual and it does give more power and speed pickup than normal DOHC engines..but for us usual drivers not much difference,maybe a bit more fuel efficient..
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Sep 15 2009, 07:48 AM)
guys, how is persona quality? rosak here and there or not? sigh... takut la if need to buyproton

and what is IAFM? tried googling to no avail
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erm... based on my experience with myvi (almost 4 years of ownership) i would say persona's built and ride is far far better.

coming from a anti-proton guy... sad to say that Perodua's QC has gone down a lot.... its like they switched places with Proton.


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loong2020: currently wht 10w40 brand oil are u using? care 2 share? smile.gif
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using Mobil Super 2000 10w40 semi-synthetic....@ RM93 after discounted frm smiles points..... well i think will just stick to this engine oil as it give lighter acceleration and trusting that Mobil lubes are good....if you want better protection, can go for Mobil 1 0W40 which costs RM245.... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 14 2009, 08:09 PM)
previously was conti cc1.....went up 2times with my friends......ok..la..i would say BUT...its also easier to lock if the road wet and want to corner... rclxub.gif  but never experience it on genting trip..... now with PP2 havent test yet on going up...maybe when holiday... laugh.gif but PP2 on wet even brake harder it wont easily lock.... brows.gif ......aiya..persona stock tires 195/60.....change it to 195/55 like me....comfort wise still not bad and better handling also...less floaty feel when speeding........ laugh.gif
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haha, maybe i went down a bit too fast, since that was my 2nd time in genting, still inexperienced about the corners there laugh.gif

but if convert to 195/55, the speedometer's accuracy sure affected right?

QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 15 2009, 02:53 AM)
thanks for da info bro! biggrin.gif


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dude..since ur engine oil is helix hx7....hows the engine performed?....and did felt any differences when u pump shell fuel compare to petronas & caltex.. icon_question.gif
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since i never changed to any other brand of engine oil (yet), so i can't comment on its performance and i never so far use shell petrol for my persona sweat.gif maybe later i'll try it, but a lot of comments on the new shell95 are bad sweat.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 15 2009, 01:02 PM)
haha, maybe i went down a bit too fast, since that was my 2nd time in genting, still inexperienced about the corners there  laugh.gif

but if convert to 195/55, the speedometer's accuracy sure affected right?
since i never changed to any other brand of engine oil (yet), so i can't comment on its performance and i never so far use shell petrol for my persona  sweat.gif maybe later i'll try it, but a lot of comments on the new shell95 are bad  sweat.gif
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erm....yeap..but not much around 1-2km.........but its ok..la.......... brows.gif but frm my gps, lets say meter is pointing 100km/h...the gps unit will show around 97.1km/h laugh.gif

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 15 2009, 01:05 PM)
erm....yeap..but not much around 1-2km.........but its ok..la.......... brows.gif but frm my gps, lets say meter is pointing 100km/h...the gps unit will show around 97.1km/h laugh.gif
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ooooo... fine, u managed to poison me mad.gif so need to save at least 2k to change new set tyres and rims all together starting now. ad07? re001? pp2? drool.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 15 2009, 01:24 PM)
using Mobil Super 2000 10w40 semi-synthetic....@ RM93 after discounted frm smiles points..... well i think will just stick to this engine oil as it give lighter acceleration and trusting that Mobil lubes are good....if you want better protection, can go for Mobil 1 0W40 which costs RM245.... whistling.gif
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ur persona ia MT or AT?

mines is AT....now im in dilemma...dont know which brand oil tht i should use for my 3rd service....

whats the actual price of mobil super 2000? is it convenient to get at every stores?

normally 10w-40 oils can last till how many km's?

thanks again icon_rolleyes.gif


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haha, maybe i went down a bit too fast, since that was my 2nd time in genting, still inexperienced about the corners there  laugh.gif

but if convert to 195/55, the speedometer's accuracy sure affected right?
since i never changed to any other brand of engine oil (yet), so i can't comment on its performance and i never so far use shell petrol for my persona  sweat.gif maybe later i'll try it, but a lot of comments on the new shell95 are bad  sweat.gif
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ic...me 2 heard lot of bad comments on ron95 shell.... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(along182_84 @ Sep 14 2009, 09:08 PM)
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front confirm is 5" only, rear i suppost is also same... 5"
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 15 2009, 02:22 PM)
ooooo... fine, u managed to poison me  mad.gif  so need to save at least 2k to change new set tyres and rims all together starting now. ad07? re001? pp2?  drool.gif
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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 15 2009, 04:51 PM)
ur persona ia MT or AT?

mines is AT....now im in dilemma...dont know which brand oil tht i should use for my 3rd service....

whats the actual price of mobil super 2000? is it convenient to get at every stores?

normally 10w-40 oils can last till how many km's?

thanks again icon_rolleyes.gif
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mine is auto also......RM98...yeah,available at all esso/mobil station......lasting i normally change 5500-6500km....

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btw does Proton SC sells the original rear boot lit sound proofing pad? Any idea how much it costs?

cuz i wanna buy it and install it into my B line model. but first i would dynamat the boot lid underside before installing the original sound proof pad....
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ic...me 2 heard lot of bad comments on ron95 shell.... shakehead.gif
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haha.. but still need to try to find out. Who knows it might bring miracle to our car? laugh.gif

Just tried mobil. The engine surprisingly quiet (less vibration), but the power is dull.

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doh.gif ......ask sifu cheean.... laugh.gif ..bro ralf if not wrong is brigdestone lover... brows.gif


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mine is auto also......RM98...yeah,available at all esso/mobil station......lasting i normally change 5500-6500km....
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I wonder those tyres like goodyear eagle F1 or toyo that got V shape thread really good? they look canggih sweat.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 16 2009, 10:55 AM)
haha.. but still need to try to find out. Who knows it might bring miracle to our car?  laugh.gif

Just tried mobil. The engine surprisingly quiet (less vibration), but the power is dull.
I wonder those tyres like goodyear eagle F1 or toyo that got V shape thread really good? they look canggih  sweat.gif
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GoodYear F1 GSD3..
V shape tread ribs enhance wet performance, but it is Noisy...somemore dry grip nothing to shout about smile.gif

I would go for Gdyear F1 Assy..smallest size is 17" and above.
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 15 2009, 09:33 PM)
doh.gif ......ask sifu cheean.... laugh.gif ..bro ralf if not wrong is brigdestone lover... brows.gif


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mine is auto also......RM98...yeah,available at all esso/mobil station......lasting i normally change 5500-6500km....
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thanks for the comment & u mentioned that every 1000km u will be servicing ur car right? it is ur time line or the oil's time line? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(krk24 @ Sep 17 2009, 07:34 AM)
thanks for the comment & u mentioned that every 1000km u will be servicing ur car right? it is ur time line or the oil's time line? rolleyes.gif
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doh.gif i mean i'll change every after 5000 or 6500..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 17 2009, 09:27 AM)
doh.gif i mean i'll change every after 5000 or 6500..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 16 2009, 11:56 AM)
GoodYear F1 GSD3..
V shape tread ribs enhance wet performance, but it is Noisy...somemore dry grip nothing to shout about  smile.gif

I would go for Gdyear F1 Assy..smallest size is 17" and above.
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Perform well on dry & wet condition.

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Persona use what kind of suspension? does persona iafm and non-iafm use same suspensioN?
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 18 2009, 02:14 PM)
Persona use what kind of suspension? does persona iafm and non-iafm use same suspensioN?
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 14 2009, 08:09 PM)
previously was conti cc1.....went up 2times with my friends......ok..la..i would say BUT...its also easier to lock if the road wet and want to corner... rclxub.gif  but never experience it on genting trip..... now with PP2 havent test yet on going up...maybe when holiday... laugh.gif but PP2 on wet even brake harder it wont easily lock.... brows.gif ......aiya..persona stock tires 195/60.....change it to 195/55 like me....comfort wise still not bad and better handling also...less floaty feel when speeding........ laugh.gif
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Woah.. someone talking about Genting Trip With Persona.. hehehe..
Go check youtube by search Persona Genting, Video uploaded by takashisupreme
i own persona also.. But Auto Trans. Get going to upgrade soon.. but donno about the engine tongue.gif
My friend suggest me to change the pulley ~.~.. donno what cost.. seem like extractor 4-2-1 can increase the acceleration. Which better tyre. Hankook ventus V8 or Yokohama Pagoda
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QUOTE(takashi87 @ Sep 19 2009, 01:06 AM)
Woah.. someone talking about Genting Trip With Persona.. hehehe..
Go check youtube by search Persona Genting, Video uploaded by takashisupreme
i own persona also.. But Auto Trans. Get going to upgrade soon.. but donno about the engine tongue.gif
My friend suggest me to change the pulley ~.~.. donno what cost.. seem like extractor 4-2-1 can increase the acceleration.  Which better tyre. Hankook ventus V8 or Yokohama Pagoda
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laugh.gif ..i watch a few videos of urs.....but why dont u take manual??..its better for acceleration and power..... so far hows ur automatic gearbox despite u revving non stop uphill and downhill every week right???....

tires, hankook nowadays not bad...why not try some other brand besides the two u mentioned??..if budget nt a problem get better sets....
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 19 2009, 12:48 PM)
laugh.gif ..i watch a few videos of urs.....but why dont u take manual??..its better for acceleration and power..... so far hows ur automatic gearbox despite u revving non stop uphill and downhill every week right???....

tires, hankook nowadays not bad...why not try some other brand besides the two u mentioned??..if budget nt a problem get better sets....
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Manual.. hehe.. i want some relaxing driving style rite now.. Suitable for KL traffic jammed. huhu.. So far the geabox still okay.. lol.. not non stop.. well.. about tyres.. my touge friend prefered Yoko. Parada because it suitable in wet condition. But Parada soo thin i guess.. What other brand u prefer for me. Last time ago Sliding & fall in drain at Batang kali made some noisy sound at my right suspension.. grrr.. kret.. krott krett krot.. hahaha
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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 18 2009, 11:34 PM)
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persona use multilink or torsion beam for its rear suspension?
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 19 2009, 05:48 PM)
persona use multilink or torsion beam for its rear suspension?
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multilink..la bro....only saga blm,savvy,exora uses torsion beam

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 19 2009, 05:48 PM)
persona use multilink or torsion beam for its rear suspension?
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hi there, im soon to be owner of persona, i choosed the ready stock one coz i need urgently coz no transport to go to work as my motorcyle been stolen, im not car enthusiast that even basic think such as engine oil ive no idea about, i want to ask fellow persona owner here, do ive made the right choice by choosing the ready stock one and what the do's and dont's for a new car, ive heard people saying i cant drive my new car exceeding 80km/h before my first service, is it true, im very noob about car, please help me
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Sep 19 2009, 09:49 PM)
hi there, im soon to be owner of persona, i choosed the ready stock one coz i need urgently coz no transport to go to work as my motorcyle been stolen, im not car enthusiast that even basic think such as engine oil ive no idea about, i want to ask fellow persona owner here, do ive made the right choice by choosing the ready stock one and what the do's and dont's for a new car, ive heard people saying i cant drive my new car exceeding 80km/h before my first service, is it true, im very noob about car, please help me
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as my mileage when i got is around 38km..so try to check the mileage if its too much lets say 150km/200km above then it could be some other unit (but i may be wrong).....
below 1st service which is 1000km, try to be gentle on the engine and accelerate below 3000rpm and speed below 110km/h as what normally people say...but for me,i had speed up to 150km before 1st service....i dont think is an issue....
as for the service at Service Center....reject those useless item like "engine treatment,oil cleanner,screen washer and etc"...normally for 1000km,5000km,10000km.....the item need to be change is only "engine oil and oil filter" other than that is not necessary... and after 15000km, items like sparkplug,air filter is only needed to be change for 15000km service..even u can change these at 10000km but its up to you...... brows.gif
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thank bro loong,err what u mean some other unit if the mileage is above 100km? ive read some post here saying we can bring our own engine oil at sc, is it true, can i bring my own engine oil at first service, and another thing is what do i hav to check strightly after i receive the car?
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Sep 19 2009, 10:14 PM)
thank bro loong,err what u mean some other unit if the mileage is above 100km? ive read some post here saying we can bring our own engine oil at sc, is it true, can i bring my own engine oil at first service, and another thing is what do i hav to check strightly after i receive the car?
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erm....maybe some unit is test drive as the mileage is high....but im not sure also..haha... yeah u can bring ur own oil, normally the SC will use petronas or shell oils....checking the car,erm basically check everything that is workable... laugh.gif ...eg: like power window,lights,engine oil,coolant,brake fluid, those switches,panel indicator, slam the door for few times see any problem with it, bonnet....and interior parts whether is fitted correctly...

and since u said want to use ur own engine oil, what brand u want to use???.....as normally semi-synthetic is sufficient enough for daily driving which cost around RM80-RM100....and the 1000km,5000km,10000km service cost will be around RM 100-130if u select "engine oil and oil filter only" just to advise u, if SC ask u do take service package, just tell them, you want to do oil change only..as i think the 1st 3 service is enough for oil change....
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i think i want to use the semi synthetic 10w40 base from the post in this thread dont know which brand to choose, em can i ask what is the best brand for the oil filter?? how much it cost?
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Sep 19 2009, 10:33 PM)
i think i want to use the semi synthetic 10w40 base from the post in this thread dont know which brand to choose, em can i ask what is the best brand for the oil filter?? how much it cost?
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im using mobil super 2000 (RM98) is far best despite i had tried various kinds of brands like eneos,badhral,shell...maybe u can try....there is no best brand for oil filter....oil filter means oil filter....... biggrin.gif
and please try to avoid buying branded engine oil at spare part shop...like shell,castrol,so on...as there has plenty of fake ones....as everyone is saying it.....best is to get from petrol station if u would like to get oils like shell,petronas,mobil.........good luck on selecting ur oil... brows.gif
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so u mean that the oil filter have no brand or whatever brand it doesn't matter as it is only oil filter, i think i wanna try to use mobil lube, so if i bring my own engine oil so i just need to buy oil filter at the sc right? do the sc man allow us to do that as they cant make profit if the customer keep bringing their own engine oil
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Sep 19 2009, 10:45 PM)
so u mean that the oil filter have no brand or whatever brand it doesn't matter as it is only oil filter, i think i wanna try to use mobil lube, so if i bring my own engine oil so i just need to buy oil filter at the sc right? do the sc man allow us to do that as they cant make profit if the customer keep bringing their own engine oil
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yeap...any brand also got..la...hahaha....erm..like i said its up to the SC...maybe u can check with them 1st.....as most they wont allow coz no profit mah... laugh.gif
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guys, i would like to ask that...

since i'm going to do the 20k service, and i'm planning to use the fully-syn engine oil, so that i can skip the 25k service (no need pay the labor fee for 25k) and straight to the 30k service next time.

can i do so?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Sep 20 2009, 06:47 AM)
guys, i would like to ask that...

since i'm going to do the 20k service, and i'm planning to use the fully-syn engine oil, so that i can skip the 25k service (no need pay the labor fee for 25k) and straight to the 30k service next time.

can i do so?
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better using semi-syn notworthy.gif
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better using semi-syn notworthy.gif
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any reason?
i guess full-syn should give a better protection to the engine, not?

anyway, i just wan to know possible to skip the 25k service and straight jump to the 30k service next time?
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Sep 20 2009, 06:47 AM)
guys, i would like to ask that...

since i'm going to do the 20k service, and i'm planning to use the fully-syn engine oil, so that i can skip the 25k service (no need pay the labor fee for 25k) and straight to the 30k service next time.

can i do so?
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Yes, full sync..service interval is 10k.
1k->5k->10k->20k->30k->40-> . . .
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Sep 20 2009, 01:19 PM)
any reason?
i guess full-syn should give a better protection to the engine, not?

anyway, i just wan to know possible to skip the 25k service and straight jump to the 30k service next time?
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i dont know it's true or not ma frnd said full sysn is more 'cair'.then easily to leak.maybe he bluffing me drool.gif
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HELLO Personaians....

already v8 dohs..huuu...

want to regester my self, just got my Persona SE (brialiant RED) 2 weeks before Hari Raya..
now clocking 1700 km.. no problem so far.. huuu.... rclxms.gif

hey.. i got across another forum back there..
they said lakatoo GPS can be installed with GARMIN...?
and it's true..just dun know how to do it though....
anybody would be give me a hand on this.....
pleaseeee......... notworthy.gif
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Anyone know the best service centre for Protons along Old Klang Road?

Good Service, Honest, Skilled & Decent price.
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hi Guys need input and suggestion

Any one have installed Voltage stabilizer (any model) + grounding cable? got few diff or not after install it?

persona at RPM 1.5k-2.5K realy low power even manual car. IAFM not enough function well at this RPM but after 3k..then you can feel the power.

any idea to improve it?
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hi personarians, is persona h-line still coming with gps navigator? is there any h-line buyer from east malaysia? i from east malaysia, and i check with some of the dealer and proton edar, they told me only se come with gps navigator. but i have read in v4 tht some buyer get it for h-line. just wanna confirm it before get one. thanks in advance...
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QUOTE(alt3ch @ Sep 24 2009, 12:54 AM)
hi personarians, is persona h-line still coming with gps navigator? is there any h-line buyer from east malaysia? i from east malaysia, and i check with some of the dealer and proton edar, they told me only se come with gps navigator. but i have read in v4 tht some buyer get it for h-line. just wanna confirm it before get one. thanks in advance...
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my h-line does come with GPS....but better u asked the dealer properly! brows.gif
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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Sep 21 2009, 11:36 AM)
HELLO Personaians....

already v8 dohs..huuu...

want to regester my self, just got my Persona SE (brialiant RED) 2 weeks before Hari Raya..
now clocking 1700 km.. no problem so far.. huuu.... rclxms.gif

hey.. i got across another forum back there..
they said lakatoo GPS can be installed with GARMIN...?
and it's true..just dun know how to do it though....
anybody would be give me a hand on this.....
pleaseeee......... notworthy.gif
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is the GPS running on WinCE platform? if yes, then u can install Garmin Mobile XT...
im guessing that it should be running on WinCE...
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tats why. anyone here know how to crack the hardware? i wana install garmin. the one installed not user friendly..
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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Sep 21 2009, 11:36 AM)
HELLO Personaians....

already v8 dohs..huuu...

want to regester my self, just got my Persona SE (brialiant RED) 2 weeks before Hari Raya..
now clocking 1700 km.. no problem so far.. huuu.... rclxms.gif

hey.. i got across another forum back there..
they said lakatoo GPS can be installed with GARMIN...?
and it's true..just dun know how to do it though....
anybody would be give me a hand on this.....
pleaseeee......... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 24 2009, 10:07 PM)
is the GPS running on WinCE platform? if yes, then u can install Garmin Mobile XT...
im guessing that it should be running on WinCE...
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tats why. anyone here know how to crack the hardware? i wana install garmin. the one installed not user friendly..
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I don't know which forum you read it from. I search hard also and all forums i read say cannot use garmin on our lokatoo device. Honestly, since i got my Persona SE 3 months ago, i have never used the GPS given coz i read bad reviews/feedback on it.
If can install Garmin, that will be best. Hope some1 here knows and willing to teach.

btw, which forum you read it from? maybe we can ask the people there.
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Sep 24 2009, 11:45 PM)
I don't know which forum you read it from. I search hard also and all forums i read say cannot use garmin on our lokatoo device. Honestly, since i got my Persona SE 3 months ago, i have never used the GPS given coz i read bad reviews/feedback on it.
If can install Garmin, that will be best. Hope some1 here knows and willing to teach.

btw, which forum you read it from? maybe we can ask the people there.
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it's there.. on EOCM forum (exora owners club malaysia).. exora has same GPS device with Persona SE (Lakatoo)
but no installation guidance can be found there.. there keep it exclusively for their club member's dowh..
no sharing.... cry.gif
so, i turn here to find a solution, any one..??
yes, it's running on Window CE. I tried some method found on the net but no good result though.
Please HELP....!!!

basically, it's kind of weird cz this thing not being discuss here.. it's lowyatt..
everything should be here.. hehe

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maybe 1 person borrow me their lakatoo and i try to install garmin on it...if its on WinCE, should not be much problem...
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Btw, forumers who said that P1 always pour the whole blardy 4L of oil into the engine and saying that because the engine takes in whole 4L and it became overfilled...

I kenak myself during my first service!! I was about to say don't overfill when i was on the phone....i saw the whole bottle 4L being poured in..

I asked... why whole bottle? He said all Campro engines takes in whole 4L. Ok fine. What ever. Reached home i checked the manual.....it didnt even state 4L engine oil requirement. Its like around 3.7 litres if not mistaken.

So in the morning before i started my engine i checked the oil level. It is ALMOST 1cm above the Max level mark!!!!!!!!!! Now that is overfill!!!

Mad, drove out to hunt for a workshop since its first day of raya. Drained out quite a bit..... Wasted oil man....

The next round i am soo gonna be on their ass to make sure no overfill....

Oh, i am using Shell HX7. Nice and light oil. I love light oils.... it drives much much better. Btw, can Persona engine except 30 weight oil???


BUGGERS.

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i found these links on using Garmin Mobile XT on WinCE 5.0 and tried very hard last night until 5am... but just couldn't get it to work sad.gif

http://www.flyingspaghettimonster.com/showthread.php?t=293772

http://www.flyingspaghettimonster.com/archive/index.php/t-293772.html

Maybe it's easier to just get the service of this person to load it in for us.
http://mysecondhandpc.blogspot.com/
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 25 2009, 10:42 AM)
Btw, forumers who said that P1 always pour the whole blardy 4L of oil into the engine and saying that because the engine takes in whole 4L and it became overfilled...

I kenak myself during my first service!! I was about to say don't overfill when i was on the phone....i saw the whole bottle 4L being poured in..

I asked... why whole bottle? He said all Campro engines takes in whole 4L. Ok fine. What ever. Reached home i checked the manual.....it didnt even state 4L engine oil requirement. Its like around 3.7 litres if not mistaken.

So in the morning before i started my engine i checked the oil level. It is ALMOST 1cm above the Max level mark!!!!!!!!!! Now that is overfill!!!

Mad, drove out to hunt for a workshop since its first day of raya. Drained out quite a bit..... Wasted oil man....

The next round i am soo gonna be on their ass to make sure no overfill....

Oh, i am using Shell HX7. Nice and light oil. I love light oils.... it drives much much better. Btw, can Persona engine except 30 weight oil???
BUGGERS.
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30 is very light imo...

mostly 30 is for small car..


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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Sep 25 2009, 11:13 AM)
i found these links on using Garmin Mobile XT on WinCE 5.0 and tried very hard last night until 5am... but just couldn't get it to work sad.gif

http://www.flyingspaghettimonster.com/show...ad.php?t=293772

http://www.flyingspaghettimonster.com/arch...p/t-293772.html

Maybe it's easier to just get the service of this person to load it in for us.
http://mysecondhandpc.blogspot.com/
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i can do that too...if u dont mind, u can borrow me to test...im in KL btw...
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problem is how to excecute the program.. cause i dunno if we can run any prgram on it.. there isnt a start run menu .. unless we reformat it or omtin. lol.. any good pointers?
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QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 25 2009, 11:36 AM)
i can do that too...if u dont mind, u can borrow me to test...im in KL btw...
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I think the key to get it work if to first need to understand how this lokatoo executes the application. There's a txt file in the SD card that puts the path of the first executable of the nagivation system when we click the Navigation button on it. After that, I believe the program will read its config file etc in the folder for operation.

Tried changing the path to point to the different executables for the Garmin Mobile XT, but the screen just pops up a while and gone and there will be few beep sound before it goes off.
sigh.. don't know much bout wince and gps stuffs.

perhaps can just give you try. best if you can make it work nod.gif
i'm in PJ. see when you free, we meet up and i pass to you for testing la if you want. you can PM me your contact.
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Sep 25 2009, 12:09 PM)
problem is how to excecute the program.. cause i dunno if we can run any prgram on it.. there isnt a start run menu .. unless we reformat it or omtin. lol.. any good pointers?
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need to hack first...after that can d...any1 willing to volunteer and let me test?
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any volunteer...??
haha.. i can give it to you.. but i wanna c how you do u hack it...
hehe..
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mine is persona SE. i don't think persona se should be lowered anymore. coz even now, i feel the front bumper with the bodykit is quite low and i can see many scratches beneath it. everytime now going down a slow or going through a bumper i need to be slow to avoid road contact with it...
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guys..izzit good to install ATF cooler for my persona..jaz want to make sure that my auto gearbox always in good condition. any drawback on this etc, power lost, fuel consumption bla...bla..tq
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anyone IAFM spoiled b4?
mine spoiled again for the 2nd time. the famous 'tak tak tak tak' sound like machine gun appear again.

which SC can replace the whole IAFM instead of push rod?
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QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Sep 26 2009, 06:11 PM)
anyone IAFM spoiled b4?
mine spoiled again for the 2nd time. the famous 'tak tak tak tak' sound like machine gun appear again.

which SC can replace the whole IAFM instead of push rod?
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IAFM spoilt 2nd time? wink.gif too bad, sorry to hear that..

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 25 2009, 10:42 AM)
Btw, forumers who said that P1 always pour the whole blardy 4L of oil into the engine and saying that because the engine takes in whole 4L and it became overfilled...

I kenak myself during my first service!! I was about to say don't overfill when i was on the phone....i saw the whole bottle 4L being poured in..

I asked... why whole bottle? He said all Campro engines takes in whole 4L. Ok fine. What ever. Reached home i checked the manual.....it didnt even state 4L engine oil requirement. Its like around 3.7 litres if not mistaken.

So in the morning before i started my engine i checked the oil level. It is ALMOST 1cm above the Max level mark!!!!!!!!!! Now that is overfill!!!

Mad, drove out to hunt for a workshop since its first day of raya. Drained out quite a bit..... Wasted oil man....

The next round i am soo gonna be on their ass to make sure no overfill....

Oh, i am using Shell HX7. Nice and light oil. I love light oils.... it drives much much better. Btw, can Persona engine except 30 weight oil???
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Ya... I myself kena twice from SC already, 1000km + 5000km. Ridiculous to our in whole bottle! I went to my regular Ah Beng, told him and he stared at me incredulously... "Yau mou kau chor ahh????" (You kidding me?)

End result, my filter seal area leaked like a sieve. Made a mess of my porch. 3rd time, I bought a new bottle, poured out about 300ml (about 1 1/2 cups worth) and gave the rest to the SC buggers. This time just ngam ngam only. If I don't do this, they'd pour the whoel %^#$@bottle in again!! Damn SC!!


Added on September 27, 2009, 12:05 am
QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Sep 26 2009, 06:11 PM)
anyone IAFM spoiled b4?
mine spoiled again for the 2nd time. the famous 'tak tak tak tak' sound like machine gun appear again.

which SC can replace the whole IAFM instead of push rod?
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11200kms and 3 months later, touch wood, not happened yet! Crossing my fingers though. But I do have a lot of other issues...



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my h-line does come with GPS....but better u asked the dealer properly! brows.gif
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seen like it not offered in east malaysia. have anyone add rear solid dics break and remote trunk release on their m-line? the reason i aiming for h-line is this 2 item, since no gps then should go fo lower spec. as dont think 3.8k price different will worth without gps. anyone added those 2 item willing to share?
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Sep 26 2009, 11:04 AM)
mine is persona SE. i don't think persona se should be lowered anymore. coz even now, i feel the front bumper with the bodykit is quite low and i can see many scratches beneath it. everytime now going down a slow or going through a bumper i need to be slow to avoid road contact with it...
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yours is blue haze or brilliant red ?thinking of buying a persona.not sure whether to opt for medium line or SE.i love black but too bad SE only offers in blue haze and brilliant red.Already compared the interior between SE and medium line,the one with leather is tempting and too bad the one with fabrics the pattern is like a zebra skin shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Sep 27 2009, 12:54 AM)
yours is blue haze or brilliant red ?thinking of buying a persona.not sure whether to opt for medium line or SE.i love black but too bad SE only offers in blue haze and brilliant red.Already compared the interior between SE and medium line,the one with leather is tempting and too bad the one with fabrics the pattern is like a zebra skin  shakehead.gif
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mine is haze blue. i seem to see more of this colour than brilliant red on the road now. The colour is a bit like a colour the new bmw 3 series has hahaha. quite like it.
i was also considering between a H-Line before i bought it. After that, seeing the leather interior of the SE, the bodykit, the dashboard lights, the cruise control, i was poisoned on buying the SE.
Finally decided to just get the SE because the 3 thousand plus extra seems to be worthwhile. Moreover, since I will be using this car for at least a few years or many more years, I might as well get the best in the range and I can afford the extra 3k plus too.

medium line is fine too, just that i like rear disc brakes. looks more sporty and appealing to me, especially when using sports rim haha.
of course u get the double airbag, remote trunk release etc too if you get a high line or SE.

thought of changing the rims to something more expensive and nice. but after more thoughts, i will just stick to it for a year or 2 until it get some scratches or not that nice anymore. sport rim trade in value, they dont really care much if it's new or used anyway.
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM)
Ya...  I myself kena twice from SC already, 1000km + 5000km.  Ridiculous to our in whole bottle!  I went to my regular Ah Beng, told him and he stared at me incredulously... "Yau mou kau chor ahh????" (You kidding me?)

End result, my filter seal area leaked like a sieve.  Made a mess of my porch.  3rd time, I bought a new bottle, poured out about 300ml (about 1 1/2 cups worth) and gave the rest to the SC buggers.  This time just ngam ngam only.  If I don't do this, they'd pour the whoel %^#$@bottle in again!!  Damn SC!!
laugh.gif ...i been running with 4liters engine oil for 15000km and for 5000km the SC pour 4liter of engine oil and 500ml of engine oil treatment which brings to 4.5L and acceleration is damn freaking slow and high FC...... rclxub.gif because that time i dont even know how much it requires ...until i went to a ahbeng shop and he said..."walau....lucky its still early otherwise habis d" rclxub.gif ....damn SC...new engine already overfill....duno what will happen next time as the first 15000km is overfilled..... yawn.gif ...
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM)
Ya...  I myself kena twice from SC already, 1000km + 5000km.  Ridiculous to our in whole bottle!  I went to my regular Ah Beng, told him and he stared at me incredulously... "Yau mou kau chor ahh????" (You kidding me?)

End result, my filter seal area leaked like a sieve.  Made a mess of my porch.  3rd time, I bought a new bottle, poured out about 300ml (about 1 1/2 cups worth) and gave the rest to the SC buggers.  This time just ngam ngam only.  If I don't do this, they'd pour the whoel %^#$@bottle in again!!  Damn SC!!


Added on September 27, 2009, 12:05 am
11200kms and 3 months later, touch wood, not happened yet!  Crossing my fingers though.  But I do have a lot of other issues...
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So the best volume engine oil is how many liter? Same for all campro car? Can share which Sc that did that to your ride? So we can avoid that Sc next time...smile.gif










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QUOTE(clicker186 @ Sep 27 2009, 11:23 AM)
So the best volume engine oil is how many liter? Same for all campro car? Can share which Sc that did that to your ride? So we can avoid that Sc next time...smile.gif
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3.7L......most SC did the same thing..... brows.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 12 2009, 10:07 AM)
Just got back form the sc repairing my iafm. it turned out they need to cut a bit part of the iafm, then the sound is no more. I asked the mechanic, he said by default the factory assembled the wrong size of one part in iafm. So basically, each persona owner should be screwed  laugh.gif

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The iafm i think. forgot to take the part he modified

So far most of my problems are no more, except for the infamous metal-hitting on the right front tire.
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Sep 11 2009, 02:25 PM)
Previous thread's:

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For those who already took car please pm me to update you name  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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My car, on the passenger side front door, if you are closing the door, can hear the window glass rattle a bit when it is fully up. went to eon, but they say dunno how to solve. i diy, by putting something inside the upper rubber that holds the window together when closed, and so far, the rattle has been reduced. but not a permanent solution. any of you experiencing the same problem? any permanent solution?
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Sep 27 2009, 09:48 PM)
My car, on the passenger side front door, if you are closing the door, can hear the window glass rattle a bit when it is fully up. went to eon, but they say dunno how to solve. i diy, by putting something inside the upper rubber that holds the window together when closed, and so far, the rattle has been reduced. but not a permanent solution. any of you experiencing the same problem? any permanent solution?
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could be the window not properly fitted on the power window frame.....better do it quickly afraid it might drop.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 27 2009, 11:28 AM)
3.7L......most SC did the same thing..... brows.gif
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opss sweat.gif guess there is still some 'recommended' SC which won't do that right? nod.gif
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Anyone have problem with petrol lid scratching the body when you accidentally open the lid too wide? Mine oledi have a chip...
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Dang.

Pumped in Esso RON95 today........the knocking sound is soo annoying everytime I do D-3 fast shifting.
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 27 2009, 09:55 PM)
could be the window not properly fitted on the power window frame.....better do it quickly afraid it might drop.... laugh.gif
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They've tighten the screws that day, but the problem still persists. I don't know if it's a good idea to ask them to take it all apart and put together again. Maybe that will solve the rattle.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 28 2009, 12:11 AM)
Anyone have problem with petrol lid scratching the body when you accidentally open the lid too wide? Mine oledi have a chip...
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i think raul or some similar nickname have the same problem with u...
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Sep 28 2009, 02:02 AM)
Dang.

Pumped in Esso RON95 today........the knocking sound is soo annoying everytime I do D-3 fast shifting.
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wow...that bad meh???..i use esso ron95 not bad wor.....hmmmmm
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Going to get my Persona (Auto) for 1K service at Jln 227 SC, just wonders anything i should aware b4 heading?? As i heard some would advice get our own Engine Oil, any recommended Engine oil for first 1K service?

Semi-syn as was told to get , but which brand better? 10W-40 or 15W-50 ??

Thanks in advance for your advice!
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I used Shell HX7 semi syn. light oil....nice. make sure they dun overfill.... they love doing overfill.......and NO ur engine does not need a full 4L. its overfilled with 4L of oil
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 28 2009, 12:15 PM)
I used Shell HX7 semi syn. light oil....nice. make sure they dun overfill.... they love doing overfill.......and NO ur engine does not need a full 4L. its overfilled with 4L of oil
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how much do you get it? does it improve the performance overall? U means should told them not to fill till 4Littre of oil?
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QUOTE(stanley984 @ Sep 28 2009, 12:28 PM)
how much do you get it? does it improve the performance overall? U means should told them not to fill till 4Littre of oil?
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Shell HX7 i got it for RM98.00

Lighter oils are always better resulting in better performance. During my first service i was shocked to see the mech poured the whole 4L into the engine. He told me that it requires whole 4L.

End of the day i checked the engine oil level after its parked for a long time, meaning all oils are down into the pan... i was shocked to find that the level was well above the MAX mark.

I drove to the nearest mechanic shop to have it drained.......SUCH A WASTE.

Perodua SC all also the same.
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Guys, i am sick of the spongy brake..heavy pedal plus soft feel...it reminds me of 80's Citroen continental.


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m-line manual RM 49800 ..coz i juz bought it..waiting for de car...auto 1 i think diff abt RM2000....
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Sep 27 2009, 09:48 PM)
My car, on the passenger side front door, if you are closing the door, can hear the window glass rattle a bit when it is fully up. went to eon, but they say dunno how to solve. i diy, by putting something inside the upper rubber that holds the window together when closed, and so far, the rattle has been reduced. but not a permanent solution. any of you experiencing the same problem? any permanent solution?
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Will be trying PESC tomorrow. Hopefully they can solve that prob for me. Stoopid EON. Any advice?
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yesterday I went to refill petrol at one of the shell station ..
I accidently pump V-power, I didn't notice it was V-power .. doh.gif
The car suddenly become very responsive, so powerful and better pick up,
Then I can feel the different of petrol 97 and v-power (for me 95 kinda underpower )
when I check again the receipt only then I reliaze it was V-power that I've refilled. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(stanley984 @ Sep 28 2009, 12:28 PM)
how much do you get it? does it improve the performance overall? U means should told them not to fill till 4Littre of oil?
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Telling them is pointless as they'd do it anyway.

Best is you'd pour out 300ml of the oil an give the rest to the SC.

Do trust the devil but don't trust SC.

And don't forget to reject the magnet thingy on your 1st service , that'll set you back RM68.00!

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QUOTE(KKW @ Sep 28 2009, 03:32 PM)
yesterday I went to refill petrol at one of the shell station ..
I accidently pump V-power, I didn't notice it was V-power  ..  doh.gif
The car suddenly become very responsive, so powerful and better pick up,
Then I can feel the different of petrol 97 and v-power (for me 95 kinda underpower )
when I check again  the receipt only then I reliaze it was V-power that I've refilled.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Sep 27 2009, 01:24 PM)
so meaning every batch even the latest one would get that problem?
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should be, according to the sc mechanic. Unless they solve it for the incoming 2010 model hmm.gif

QUOTE(JonSpark @ Sep 28 2009, 02:02 AM)
Dang.

Pumped in Esso RON95 today........the knocking sound is soo annoying everytime I do D-3 fast shifting.
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mine when i used esso/mobil ron95, the engine was quieter but no power wor

QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 28 2009, 02:53 PM)
Guys, i am sick of the spongy brake..heavy pedal plus soft feel...it reminds me of 80's Citroen continental.
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by default all persona's brake are made spongy right? Can adjust like hard as saga blm brake (instant grip even lightly pressing the pedal)?

in my opinion, i prefer the current brake setup. Persona is a heavy car. Weight distribution during braking pretty much messed up. If the brake system were designed like saga blm, for sure lots of persona would kiss other car butt whistling.gif especially for non-H-line owner (no abs). My own opinion that is blush.gif
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well....the braking is spongy..but after i change to formula imp 600'c...the brake became harder and i do adjust the rear brake drums to fewer click, and now, everytime i brake the car the whole car macam sangat makan until the car's front part nose go forward when i apply the brake hard laugh.gif and i also do tested where i drove 100km and last min brake lets say front got traffic light (but its clear) so i brake when approching around 1 and half pole light, the car can stops before the white line ..... ....i guess just adjust the drum brakes to lower and change better pads....
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*i think Persona parts also can be use in gen2, needs to rectify this*

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Package includes: Offer me with installation or not.

Price: Depends on several factors, just offer me.

Warranty: at least 3 days warranty to test it.

Dealing method: C.O.D. Cash.

Location of seller: Around KL / Bangi / Ampang.

Contact method/details: PM me.

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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Sep 28 2009, 05:51 PM)
should be, according to the sc mechanic. Unless they solve it for the incoming 2010 model  hmm.gif
mine when i used esso/mobil ron95, the engine was quieter but no power wor
by default all persona's brake are made spongy right? Can adjust like hard as saga blm brake (instant grip even lightly pressing the pedal)?

in my opinion, i prefer the current brake setup. Persona is a heavy car. Weight distribution during braking pretty much messed up. If the brake system were designed like saga blm, for sure lots of persona would kiss other car butt  whistling.gif  especially for non-H-line owner (no abs). My own opinion that is  blush.gif
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blm brake can press until the floor 1... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(smokey @ Sep 29 2009, 10:20 AM)
blm brake also spongy bos...my bro's atos damn makan...tekan 1mm of the brake pedal also can brake d...
blm brake can press until the floor 1... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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err... but my mum's blm brake very makan wor. Press a little and it is gripping the disc damn tight rclxub.gif
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guys, where can i get the sound proof padding for the rear boot lit? i want like original M-line and H-line Persona types.

and how much is it
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my fuel pedal vibrating on 80 -90 km/h, anyone experienced this? How to solve?
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 29 2009, 01:23 PM)
my fuel pedal vibrating on 80 -90 km/h, anyone experienced this? How to solve?
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same problem here..
what is the problem ar?
but around 110KM/h I cant feel the vibrating anymore
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The vibration problem is actually between 2K-3K rpm. My foot is used to it dy.
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forget about fixing the vibration on accelerator padel.
Complain since my 1st service and it's still remain unsolved..
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Sep 29 2009, 01:23 PM)
my fuel pedal vibrating on 80 -90 km/h, anyone experienced this? How to solve?
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QUOTE(KKW @ Sep 29 2009, 01:33 PM)
same problem here..
what is the problem ar?
but around 110KM/h I cant feel the vibrating anymore
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Sep 29 2009, 03:32 PM)
The vibration problem is actually between 2K-3K rpm. My foot is used to it dy.
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i complained the same thing to the SC. They checked and say nothing wrong. Then say it could be because around 2600rpm, that's where the power of the engine comes in.
anyhow, i went to do balancing for my tyres and now the vibration is minimal although still can be felt.

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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Sep 29 2009, 08:34 PM)
i complained the same thing to the SC. They checked and say nothing wrong. Then say it could be because around 2600rpm, that's where the power of the engine comes in.
anyhow, i went to do balancing for my tyres and now the vibration is minimal although still can be felt.
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nt reli normal i guess.....mine smooth from 1000rpm till 7000rpm(except for the 2900rpm vibration which its a persona trademark) laugh.gif ......btw is urs iafm or plain campro???.....and do u feel and hear knocking sound when accelerating the car?? 1st,2nd gear???

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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 28 2009, 02:53 PM)
Guys, i am sick of the spongy brake..heavy pedal plus soft feel...it reminds me of 80's Citroen continental.
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Good wut.

Its a family sedan, so drive it like a family sedan. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(roiss @ Sep 29 2009, 11:40 PM)
Hooray! I've successfully installed Garmin Mobile XT for my Lokatoo unit!  biggrin.gif
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you did yourself?
but garmin on the A900 is laggy because garmin recommends to have 256 memory
Papago is smoother
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btw guys...can list down ur engine oil brand and mileage of ur car??? brows.gif biggrin.gif
oh yea.. just service my car this evening..bought Mobil 1 0w40 full-sync @ rm245 sweat.gif ,...acceleration smooth alot, quieter, and felt pickup more powerful especially 2700rpm-3300rpm.... drool.gif anyway previously i was using Mobil Super 2000 10w40 semi-synthetic, its a good oil also....maybe u guys can try it...

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Any ideas how to remove hairline scratches? My naughty nephew tried to clean my car yesterday, by wiping it with tissue paper!!!! I feel like strangling her already. Now there are some scratches, but not so visible unless u look carefully. I've tried using Kit Max Wax, somehow they're less visible now. I've heard about Turtle Wax Swirl and Scratch Remover. Any good? My Persona is Tranquility Black. Feel a bit regret taking that colour now, although it does look damn good.
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Sep 30 2009, 12:17 AM)
you did yourself?
but garmin on the A900 is laggy because garmin recommends to have 256 memory
Papago is smoother
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How to do it!!? I had a A900 too!
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 29 2009, 08:54 PM)
nt reli normal i guess.....mine smooth from 1000rpm till 7000rpm(except for the 2900rpm vibration which its a persona trademark) laugh.gif ......btw is urs iafm or plain campro???.....and do u feel and hear knocking sound when accelerating the car?? 1st,2nd gear???
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Steps to install: laugh.gif

Before proceeding, make a backup of the original navigation software by copying a folder named 'Guider' under the SD card root.

1. Download GMXT from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IPEP11SI

2. Download CEDESKTOP from http://rapidshare.com/files/37224775/ceDesktop.exe

3. Extract the downloaded GMXT. Goto \...\Garmin\Apps\WM\. Look for QueBmp240.dll and rename it to QueBmp240_orig.dll. Then look for QueBmp320.dll and rename it to QueBmp240.all.

3. Copy the folder named 'Garmin' to SD card.

4. Rename the downloaded CEDESKTOP to dp_Guider and replace it with the original one under the 'Guider' folder.

5. Reset the device by switching the ON/OFF button.

6. After resetting, tap on the navigation icon. The Windows will be started and then hidden. Tap once again and you will see a Windows CE interface.

7. Now, execute 'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' and look for the Card ID. Use the ID to generate unlock code. Create a notepad file and name it SW.UNL. Copy this file to Garmin folder.

8. Copy your GMAPSUPP.img file to the Garmin folder. Done. rclxm9.gif


Happy Journey!


Some knowns bugs: icon_question.gif

1. Settings of Garmin will restore to default after resetting. (Right now I only leave it in Standby mode to prevent this)
2. Volume of the device will increase after configuring the backlight in Garmin. (Uncheck all the checkboxes regarding to backlight setting. Use the original setting of the unit.)
3. The taskbar of Windows CE cannot be shown properly.. hmm.gif

This post has been edited by roiss: Sep 30 2009, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 28 2009, 06:05 PM)
well....the braking is spongy..but after i change to formula imp 600'c...the brake became harder and i do adjust the rear brake drums to fewer click, and now, everytime i brake the car the whole car macam sangat makan until the car's front part nose go forward when i apply the brake hard laugh.gif and i also do tested where i drove 100km and last min brake lets say front got traffic light (but its clear) so i brake when approching around 1 and half pole light, the car can stops before the white line ..... ....i guess just adjust the drum brakes to lower and change better pads....
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How many sets of brake pad you've changed in the past..waalao. notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
thought you are on Bosch powerplus.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 30 2009, 07:48 AM)
Brader loong,

How many sets of brake pad you've changed in the past..waalao. notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
thought you are on Bosch powerplus.. smile.gif
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Sounds just like me. I also love changing my pads... to try.


Added on September 30, 2009, 8:49 am
QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Sep 30 2009, 12:25 AM)
Any ideas how to remove hairline scratches? My naughty nephew tried to clean my car yesterday, by wiping it with tissue paper!!!! I feel like strangling her already. Now there are some scratches, but not so visible unless u look carefully. I've tried using Kit Max Wax, somehow they're less visible now. I've heard about Turtle Wax Swirl and Scratch Remover. Any good? My Persona is Tranquility Black. Feel a bit regret taking that colour now, although it does look damn good.
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I know exactly how u feel. In my case, it was by my part time maid and it was on my black MyVi (my ex car). I came back from travelling and remembering it was dirty...and suddenly it was sparkling clean.

Check check.... upon close up, to my ABSOLUTE HORROR, swirl marks to my perfectly mirror finish all around the car. I feel like f***ing her already. I really wondered what she used to wash till like that....

Based on my experience, do not and i repeat again......DO NOT USE any SCRATCH REMOVERS stuffs. It will cause your perfectly fine mirror finish to become "hazy". Just apply WAX. If it is still visible, wax it several times.

This post has been edited by 2fast2furious: Sep 30 2009, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(roiss @ Sep 30 2009, 01:18 AM)
Steps to install:  laugh.gif

Before proceeding, make a backup of the original navigation software by copying a folder named 'Guider' under the SD card root.

1. Download GMXT from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IPEP11SI

2. Download CEDESKTOP from http://rapidshare.com/files/37224775/ceDesktop.exe

3. Extract the downloaded GMXT. Goto \...\Garmin\Apps\WM\. Look for QueBmp240.dll and rename it to QueBmp240_orig.dll. Then look for QueBmp320.dll and rename it to QueBmp240.all.

3. Copy the folder named 'Garmin' to SD card.

4. Rename the downloaded CEDESKTOP to dp_Guider and replace it with the original one under the 'Guider' folder.

5. Reset the device by switching the ON/OFF button.

6. After resetting, tap on the navigation icon. The Windows will be started and then hidden. Tap once again and you will see a Windows CE interface.

7. Now, execute  'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' and look for the Card ID. Use the ID to generate unlock code. Create a notepad file and name it SW.UNL. Copy this file to Garmin folder.

8. Copy your GMAPSUPP.img file to the Garmin folder.  Done.  rclxm9.gif
Happy Journey!
Some knowns bugs:  icon_question.gif

1. Settings of Garmin will restore to default after resetting. (Right now I only leave it in Standby mode to prevent this)
2. Volume of the device will increase after configuring the backlight in Garmin. (Uncheck all the checkboxes regarding to backlight setting. Use the original setting of the unit.)
3. The taskbar of Windows CE cannot be shown properly..  hmm.gif
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this is good man.....huuu.. TQ VM

emmm but i do agreed dARKaNGEl, garmin on A900 is slow, PAPAGO is better & smooth smile.gif
hehe.. any idea how to add RAM on LAKATOO (haha noob Q)

Thanks

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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Sep 30 2009, 09:20 AM)
this is good man.....huuu.. TQ VM

emmm but i do agreed dARKaNGEl, garmin on A900 is slow, PAPAGO is better & smooth smile.gif
hehe.. any idea how to add RAM on LAKATOO (haha noob Q)

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Will try to install PAPAGO later.. laugh.gif Have you tried it?
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Will try to install PAPAGO later..  laugh.gif  Have you tried it?
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Engine Oil:
1. Mobil 1 (0w40) fully-synthetic - loong2020
2. Shell Helix (10w40) fully-syn - half_lif3
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2. october 23th 2008 - now 24000km
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QUOTE(Xefron @ Sep 30 2009, 09:55 AM)
please do provide the guide later.i am not familiar with PAPAGO
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ahh...
i hv to paid to install those to software..
damn it.. mad.gif
u lah so lewat to tell.... hahaha...

however, already spread ur guidance already... huuuuu
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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 30 2009, 07:48 AM)
Brader loong,

How many sets of brake pad you've changed in the past..waalao. notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
thought you are on Bosch powerplus.. smile.gif
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yea...left around 40-50%...then gatal go try new brake pad... laugh.gif ...what about you???...still on ferodo??
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damn ,just spent 500 on 15 k service

179 for shit ass package

300 + for chaging bendix pad ,skimming disk bracke ,bleeding
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on sunday when i ask them to do minor service , they show me the bolt on the disc is loosen up ,maybe the guy before tight it too much so it loose n they change it for 25 buck for a bolt
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successfully running Garmin Mobile XT to MyNavi A800 aka Lookato A800

still got some bugs...now was trying to make it autorun garmin when click the navigation
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can anyone advice what size of the front speaker at the door for persona? ASAP...

Eyeing on a pair of Infinity Reference component set.... drool.gif

The one i saw only comes in 5 inch.

And if its too small, can it be fitted by using circular wood panelling?

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 30 2009, 01:08 PM)
yea...left around 40-50%...then gatal go try new brake pad... laugh.gif ...what about you???...still on ferodo??
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you poisoned me pulak...wail till 40k km service, i will replace the brake pad. rolleyes.gif

mine still on Bendix ct general titanium stripe, FeRoDo ZeRo throw away dee not even 10k km usage


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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 30 2009, 08:44 AM)
Sounds just like me. I also love changing my pads... to try.


Added on September 30, 2009, 8:49 am
I know exactly how u feel. In my case, it was by my part time maid and it was on my black MyVi (my ex car). I came back from travelling and remembering it was dirty...and suddenly it was sparkling clean.

Check check.... upon close up, to my ABSOLUTE HORROR, swirl marks to my perfectly mirror finish all around the car. I feel like f***ing her already. I really wondered what she used to wash till like that....

Based on my experience, do not and i repeat again......DO NOT USE any SCRATCH REMOVERS stuffs. It will cause your perfectly fine mirror finish to become "hazy". Just apply WAX. If it is still visible, wax it several times.
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hehe, me too..i like changing tyre and brake pad biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ralf @ Sep 30 2009, 02:20 PM)
you poisoned me pulak...wail till 40k km service, i will replace the brake pad. rolleyes.gif
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lol...mana ada... laugh.gif .....but formula 600'c cold noisy...but does it job very well... brows.gif ...
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i also paid to get the garmin and papago installed.
haiya, so late only post the steps to install it. nvm la, still think very worth it rather than buying a new gps device.
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Sep 30 2009, 01:38 PM)
successfully running Garmin Mobile XT to MyNavi A800 aka Lookato A800

still got some bugs...now was trying to make it autorun garmin when click the navigation
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good job u guys!!! i am waiting for yr results!!! haha finally some forumner is happy to share with us!!!
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QUOTE(roiss @ Sep 30 2009, 01:18 AM)
Steps to install:  laugh.gif

Before proceeding, make a backup of the original navigation software by copying a folder named 'Guider' under the SD card root.

1. Download GMXT from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IPEP11SI

2. Download CEDESKTOP from http://rapidshare.com/files/37224775/ceDesktop.exe

3. Extract the downloaded GMXT. Goto \...\Garmin\Apps\WM\. Look for QueBmp240.dll and rename it to QueBmp240_orig.dll. Then look for QueBmp320.dll and rename it to QueBmp240.all.

3. Copy the folder named 'Garmin' to SD card.

4. Rename the downloaded CEDESKTOP to dp_Guider and replace it with the original one under the 'Guider' folder.

5. Reset the device by switching the ON/OFF button.

6. After resetting, tap on the navigation icon. The Windows will be started and then hidden. Tap once again and you will see a Windows CE interface.

7. Now, execute  'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' and look for the Card ID. Use the ID to generate unlock code. Create a notepad file and name it SW.UNL. Copy this file to Garmin folder.

8. Copy your GMAPSUPP.img file to the Garmin folder.  Done.  rclxm9.gif
Happy Journey!
Some knowns bugs:  icon_question.gif

1. Settings of Garmin will restore to default after resetting. (Right now I only leave it in Standby mode to prevent this)
2. Volume of the device will increase after configuring the backlight in Garmin. (Uncheck all the checkboxes regarding to backlight setting. Use the original setting of the unit.)
3. The taskbar of Windows CE cannot be shown properly..  hmm.gif
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Hi, where to get the GMAPSUPP.img file, is it need to be download separately? is it a very big file?
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QUOTE(cktang @ Oct 1 2009, 01:09 AM)
Hi, where to get the GMAPSUPP.img file, is it need to be download separately? is it a very big file?
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You can get it from http://www.malfreemaps.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=893

It's free!


Added on October 1, 2009, 4:57 pmAny idea how to hard reset the unit huh? I modified the registry and now it cannot be turned off by pressing the button... tongue.gif

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wah, changing brake pads like changing underwear blink.gif
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well as for gps by looking at the video of other using a1000 and a900

they are using SD Unlock program[which usually for mio] where it make 2nd interface when pressing the navigation button..which inside mainly u can put any application as long as Windows CE 5 apps..that y they can provide papago x2 and garmin also with original gps


nyway instead of running 'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' try run Garmin.exe at \Storage Card\Garmin\RunGMXT\Garmin.exe

this will hide the taskbar nicely...
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hi pesonarians here, i just recieved my black manual m-line persona this week, so far dont notice much problem just the breathing sound from the aircond, i wanna ask here, is it the immobilizer alone enough for my car security or if i need a steering and pedal lock, what brand is reliable? i've read that the h line got Captor security system, can i install on mmy m line and how much it costs?
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Can someone please export the registry of Lokatoo A900 and post it here? Mine has corrupted. doh.gif Thank you!
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 1 2009, 08:10 PM)
Can someone please export the registry of Lokatoo A900 and post it here? Mine has corrupted.  doh.gif  Thank you!
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i have the a800 only...if u want
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Oct 1 2009, 06:02 PM)
well as for gps by looking at the video of other using a1000 and a900

they are using SD Unlock program[which usually for mio] where it make 2nd interface when pressing the navigation button..which inside mainly u can put any application as long as Windows CE 5 apps..that y they can provide papago x2 and garmin also with original gps
nyway instead of running  'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' try run Garmin.exe at \Storage Card\Garmin\RunGMXT\Garmin.exe

this will hide the taskbar nicely...
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My device cannot be turned off by pressing the button on top after unlocking.. Beware!

Can anyone please make a registry backup of your A900 and send it to me? Urgent! Thanks!

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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Oct 1 2009, 07:04 PM)
hi pesonarians here, i just recieved my black manual m-line persona this week, so far dont notice much problem just the breathing sound from the aircond, i wanna ask here, is it the immobilizer alone enough for my car security or if i need a steering and pedal lock, what brand is reliable? i've read that the h line got Captor security system, can i install on mmy m line and how much it costs?
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No. It is best (budget wise) to add motion sensor fitted onto the dashboard wired to the stock alarm system. And buy a portable brake lock. Do not buy those stupid steering lock locking the steering wheel and the brake pedal. Those are soo easily cut (at the steering wheel) and removed.

It is something like this

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multilink..la bro....only saga blm,savvy,exora uses torsion beam
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If i'm not mistaken, in the manual book, it state persona non-iafm use multilink..and with iafm it state torsion beam... I red it from persona se manual. hmm.gif shakehead.gif

I'm just curious. If you said persona use multilink, then it's multilink la icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Oct 2 2009, 05:31 PM)
If i'm not mistaken, in the manual book, it state persona non-iafm use multilink..and with iafm it state torsion beam... I red it from persona se manual. hmm.gif  shakehead.gif

I'm just curious. If you said persona use multilink, then it's multilink la icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow...is it???..but so far i see most persona on the road also multilink wor...hahaha..could be some error printing..
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its error printing la...

proton got no $$$ to create a new platform la...

unless proton slam a persona bodyshell over the exora platform
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how much it cost the motion sensor and the brake lock, does that exceed rm200 and where to install the motion sensor? im so noob about car
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 1 2009, 08:19 PM)
My device cannot be turned off by pressing the button on top after unlocking.. Beware!

Can anyone please make a registry backup of your A900 and send it to me? Urgent! Thanks!
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how bro? u managed to get yr back up? sry cant help u here. i hv a a800 only..
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QUOTE(eastwest @ Oct 2 2009, 05:31 PM)
If i'm not mistaken, in the manual book, it state persona non-iafm use multilink..and with iafm it state torsion beam... I red it from persona se manual. hmm.gif  shakehead.gif

I'm just curious. If you said persona use multilink, then it's multilink la icon_rolleyes.gif
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Luckily its multilink.... if torsion beam... the ride quality will be different already. but then in terms of maintenance, torsion beam cost less because of the less parts and bushings.


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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Oct 3 2009, 04:06 AM)
how bro? u managed to get yr back up? sry cant help u here. i hv a a800 only..
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No luck. Sigh.. shakehead.gif Right now it needs a program to turn it off.
Anyway, I managed to install PapaGO X3 on my device. It works like a charm! rclxms.gif What is the resolution of your A800? The version I'm using only supports 480 x 272.
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anyone remove their cat con? how is the performance compare to a 4-2-1?
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Anyone know where to get this 7 spoke rims ? This one is from Waja and Gen 2 MME. I reckon this would be 195/50 R16.
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Oct 1 2009, 07:04 PM)
hi pesonarians here, i just recieved my black manual m-line persona this week, so far dont notice much problem just the breathing sound from the aircond, i wanna ask here, is it the immobilizer alone enough for my car security or if i need a steering and pedal lock, what brand is reliable? i've read that the h line got Captor security system, can i install on mmy m line and how much it costs?
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yeah me too..got some vibrating sound from aircond...do u hav tik tik sound when activate d wiper?
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i think its smaller. i dont really know but i am following yr every instructions.

now i hv a buggy problem. i can shut down properly. but!!! my volume automatically increases whn i run the map nvigation. say i reduced the volume to 20%. whn i run "go to" select destination, thn it calculate the best route. thats whn the volume automatically increases.. to 100%!!! tats very annoying. trying to look for a remedy to it. so far i cant find any
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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Oct 3 2009, 05:40 PM)
i think its smaller. i dont really know but i am following yr every instructions.

now i hv a buggy problem. i can shut down properly. but!!! my volume automatically increases whn i run the map nvigation. say i reduced the volume to 20%. whn i run "go to" select destination, thn it calculate the best route. thats whn the volume automatically increases.. to 100%!!! tats very annoying. trying to look for a remedy to it. so far i cant find any
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To overcome this problem, first of all, set the backlight of your unit to 'Always ON'. Then in the setting of Garmin, goto 'Settings > Display > Backlight Override' and uncheck all the check boxes. This will prevent the program to trigger the bug. smile.gif Hope this helps!


Added on October 4, 2009, 12:32 am
QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 3 2009, 10:48 AM)
Luckily its multilink.... if torsion beam... the ride quality will be different already. but then in terms of maintenance, torsion beam cost less because of the less parts and bushings.
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I peeked under my car just now. It looks more like a torsion beam. Are you a non IAFM owner, if yes then can you take a photo of your suspension? I wanna compare with mine. biggrin.gif Thank you.


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yeah me too..got some vibrating sound from aircond...do u hav tik tik sound when activate d wiper?
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My air cond vent is vibrating too. doh.gif Regarding the 'tik tik' sound, it is the sound from relay if not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong. smile.gif

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No luck. Sigh..  shakehead.gif Right now it needs a program to turn it off.
Anyway, I managed to install PapaGO X3 on my device. It works like a charm!  rclxms.gif  What is the resolution of your A800? The version I'm using only supports 480 x 272.
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Hi fren, thanks for sharing out the garmin files & installation guide.
Currently myself is using Garmin on my Nokia xpress 5800. I found that the orignal GPS from my A800 is not user friendly. Therefore I just 'jail' it in my kampung tongue.gif
Now, with your kind sharing, I hope that my A800 can work with garmin and can be released from 'jail' rclxms.gif

Btw, roiss, can you share us the Papago's files and installation guide as well wub.gif
If A800 really cannot work with Garmin, at least I can go for 2nd choice. Thanks fren, good job thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Sep 28 2009, 12:15 PM)
I used Shell HX7 semi syn. light oil....nice. make sure they dun overfill.... they love doing overfill.......and NO ur engine does not need a full 4L. its overfilled with 4L of oil
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I sent my car to Sungai Besi Eon Service Centre. A guy told me that campro engine is full filled with 4L engine oil, he said only those old engine fill with less than 4L. Dunno he tipu me or not. vmad.gif

At 1st, still thinking to bring back the remaining engine oil, keep the stock and combine it become another 4L drool.gif

Btw, your SC allow you all to bring you own engine oil?? My SC said NO WAY.must use theirs.

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sweat.gif sweat.gif ....the engine does not need 4L..la...even let 3.6/3.7 is more than enough as it will show MAX mark or even lower a bit......overfill is not a good thing as it will weaken the seals in the long run thus leaking next time.....best is 1mm below MAX or put in between of MIN & MAX is also enough as it give better FC and lighter acceleration.....just go drain it...la....go normal workshop and tell them to drain it as its overfilled....or best is change oil filter and the oil will decrease a bit......
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 4 2009, 10:24 AM)
Hi fren, thanks for sharing out the garmin files & installation guide.
Currently myself is using Garmin on my Nokia xpress 5800. I found that the orignal GPS from my A800 is not user friendly. Therefore I just 'jail' it in my kampung tongue.gif
Now, with your kind sharing, I hope that my A800 can work with garmin and can be released from 'jail'  rclxms.gif

Btw, roiss, can you share us the Papago's files and installation guide as well  wub.gif
If A800 really cannot work with Garmin, at least I can go for 2nd choice. Thanks fren, good job  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
I will share it soon. biggrin.gif But I'm not sure whether it works on A800 since the resolution is different. blush.gif

And guys, I think all the Persona IAFM in M'sia are using multilink for the rear suspension. I've checked with a mechanic. thumbup.gif

But this site, Proton Turkey states that the rear is using Torsion Beam Axle with coil springs. hmm.gif
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wats the reso for the papago? can work on A900?
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 4 2009, 10:24 AM)
Hi fren, thanks for sharing out the garmin files & installation guide.
Currently myself is using Garmin on my Nokia xpress 5800. I found that the orignal GPS from my A800 is not user friendly. Therefore I just 'jail' it in my kampung tongue.gif
Now, with your kind sharing, I hope that my A800 can work with garmin and can be released from 'jail'  rclxms.gif

Btw, roiss, can you share us the Papago's files and installation guide as well  wub.gif
If A800 really cannot work with Garmin, at least I can go for 2nd choice. Thanks fren, good job  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif


Added on October 4, 2009, 10:36 am

I sent my car to Sungai Besi Eon Service Centre. A guy told me that campro engine is full filled with 4L engine oil, he said only those old engine fill with less than 4L. Dunno he tipu me or not.  vmad.gif

At 1st, still thinking to bring back the remaining engine oil, keep the stock and combine it become another 4L  drool.gif

Btw, your SC allow you all to bring you own engine oil?? My SC said NO WAY.must use theirs.
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any good news for us folks who wanna install papago? thanks mate!!

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 3 2009, 10:48 AM)
Luckily its multilink.... if torsion beam... the ride quality will be different already. but then in terms of maintenance, torsion beam cost less because of the less parts and bushings.
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From my experience riding on persona se, It's quite comfortable, I think it's slightly better than my waja... even the gearchange is much smoother(AT).

QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 4 2009, 12:26 AM)

I peeked under my car just now. It looks more like a torsion beam. Are you a non IAFM owner, if yes then can you take a photo of your suspension? I wanna compare with mine.  biggrin.gif  Thank you.
Eh??? I'll try to check my brother car when he get back unsure.gif .
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Hey guys, last few days my 1.x years old persona started giving out weird screeching sounds from the front wheel area...this is different from the knocking sound from the front wheel that is so famous in the persona when going over bumps. This sound is a screeching sound and it happens even when travelling on a perfectly smooth road. however, the sound seems to be quite random. When i'm driving, 50% of the time i can hear the sound and the other 50% the car is normal.

Anyone ever encountered the same problem? My car is in the SC now being troubleshooted..hope they find the problem lol. Thanks abunch for your input.

Update: The SC says that my brake pads are worn out..need to replace..the options are
ORI set : bosch - RM 350 (too exp)
Locus (not sure of name) : RM 140, never heard of it before, any input?
Mintye : RM 100 but not goin to go for this as it has bad reviews.

So i told him that i want to buy my own pads and let him install. He says service charge is RM 50. Is this reasonable?
Btw, i'm looking to buy a Rapid Stop pair. Do you know where i can get a pair of this quick? does ENEOS@ 1 utama carry this brand? And may i know the estimated price for RS pads? Thank you.

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screeching sound? can it be the brakes are not properly released and still touching the disc?

is your ride lowered? maybe the car tyre touching the chassis?
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screeching sound? can it be the brakes are not properly released and still touching the disc?

is your ride lowered? maybe the car tyre touching the chassis?
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It's 33,000 km since i got my ride. No problem so far. Unless all this while the brakes not properly released? My ride is unmodified, everything is stock standard. btw, i've updated my original post with the input from the SC. Any further advice?
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QUOTE(onlyforthecars @ Oct 5 2009, 10:29 AM)
Hey guys, last few days my 1.x years old persona started giving out weird screeching sounds from the front wheel area...this is different from the knocking sound from the front wheel that is so famous in the persona when going over bumps. This sound is a screeching sound and it happens even when travelling on a perfectly smooth road. however, the sound seems to be quite random. When i'm driving, 50% of the time i can hear the sound and the other 50% the car is normal.

Anyone ever encountered the same problem? My car is in the SC now being troubleshooted..hope they find the problem lol. Thanks abunch for your input.

Update: The SC says that my brake pads are worn out..need to replace..the options are
ORI set : bosch - RM 350 (too exp)
Locus (not sure of name) : RM 140, never heard of it before, any input?
Mintye : RM 100 but not goin to go for this as it has bad reviews.

So i told him that i want to buy my own pads and let him install. He says service charge is RM 50. Is this reasonable?
Btw, i'm looking to buy a Rapid Stop pair. Do you know where i can get a pair of this quick? does ENEOS@ 1 utama carry this brand? And may i know the estimated price for RS pads? Thank you.
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It is Lucas smile.gif DON, Lucas all also not bad..acceptable quality. If i had the money, i would go for EBC..

Screeching sound? Is it the brake pad wear indicator(metal) squeek..?
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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 5 2009, 01:10 PM)
It is Lucas  smile.gif DON, Lucas all also not bad..acceptable quality. If i had the money, i would go for EBC..

Screeching sound? Is it the brake pad wear indicator(metal) squeek..?
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Yeah i just went over to the SC during lunch time and confirmed it. It's Lucas. But what does DON mean? Is it the pad model? How much for a EBC pad? my budget is max RM 150 wor. Also, may i ask where to buy those brake pads? such as RS, Bendix, EBC? preferably within PJ area. Does ENEOS @ 1 Utama carry those brands? Thanks in advance...

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Here you go:

COM 7, baud rate 4800 Click Here

COM 7, baud rate 9600 Click Here

Both with Exit function. thumbup.gif


Added on October 5, 2009, 5:06 pm
QUOTE(eastwest @ Oct 5 2009, 09:56 AM)
From my experience riding on persona se, It's quite comfortable, I think it's slightly better than my waja... even the gearchange is much smoother(AT).
Eh??? I'll try to check my brother car when he get back unsure.gif .
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Sorry, my fault. I have checked with mechanic. It's Multilink! biggrin.gif

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u the man roiss!!!!


Added on October 5, 2009, 5:20 pmanyways.. anyone of u tried driving until tanky really really kosong?

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Steps to install PaPaGO X3:

1. Download software from HERE.

2. Download SETTING_EN from HERE.

3. Download patch from HERE.

4. Extract and copy the PaPaGO folder to SDMMC.

5. Replace the extracted SETTING_EN with the existing one in 'Organic > EN (English)'

6. Extract the patch, copy it to the PaPaGO folder and launch the program by using the patch.

For latest map updates, you may visit malfreemaps.
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Can somebody clarify if the driver side windows suppose to have auto for both going up & down?

Mine seems to only have auto going down, have to hold the button to wind it up. Am i missing something?
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Can somebody clarify if the driver side windows suppose to have auto for both going up & down?

Mine seems to only have auto going down, have to hold the button to wind it up. Am i missing something?
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auto down, up manually....all latest proton models are design this way....
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auto down, up manually....all latest proton models are design this way....
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yup.. agreed....
safety reason i think.....
xperience 1st hand in my mother avanza,
auto up causing my little cousin hand tersepit after byr tol.. no sensor to told the window to stop...

unlike livina, it has sensor (if i not mistaken) la... tongue.gif

to roiss:

u rock man..!!! tq for sharing, i'll try it later.
but could u brief a bit, ape beza papago x2 & x3 eh..?
hehe... tq.. smile.gif
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Any manual IAFM drivers think the accelerator pedal is abit too sensitive? I try to get abit of rpm but end up with 2k above. Idle is around 1k i have problems getting 1.5k rev. Anyway to make it better?
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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Oct 5 2009, 09:03 PM)
yup.. agreed....
safety reason i think.....
xperience 1st hand in my mother avanza,
auto up causing my little cousin hand tersepit after byr tol.. no sensor to told the window to stop...

unlike livina, it has sensor (if i not mistaken) la... tongue.gif

to roiss:

u rock man..!!! tq for sharing, i'll try it later.
but could u brief a bit, ape beza papago x2 & x3 eh..?
hehe... tq.. smile.gif
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tq VM..!!
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 5 2009, 08:40 PM)
auto down, up manually....all latest proton models are design this way....
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my old car..non proton is backward. Auto Up, Down Manually.. biggrin.gif


Added on October 5, 2009, 10:15 pm
QUOTE(onlyforthecars @ Oct 5 2009, 02:44 PM)
Yeah i just went over to the SC during lunch time and confirmed it. It's Lucas. But what does DON mean? Is it the pad model? How much for a EBC pad? my budget is max RM 150 wor. Also, may i ask where to buy those brake pads? such as RS, Bendix, EBC? preferably within PJ area. Does ENEOS @ 1 Utama carry those brands? Thanks in advance...
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Arr.i am from Pg..no idea for southern region market sad.gif You can go to spare parts shop to look for it...
DON is a brand. It is a reputable and good brand but i don't see it anymore?? i think they stop their own brand and oem for other makers?

BENDIX..either Metal King titanium or CT General titanium stripe..cost around rm120 for front.

RS - You can search at garage sales-automotive forum..

EBC Black stuff..around rm180..
EBC Green stuff...rm400 smile.gif this is good stuff.. smile.gif

FeRoDo ZeRo - around rm110. Abit noisy..

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u the man roiss!!!!


Added on October 5, 2009, 5:20 pmanyways.. anyone of u tried driving until tanky really really kosong?
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The least I go is when the meter shown about 30. Anyway, my fren told me that better pump petrol before yellow light.
if always under tank (< 50), will easily cause the fuel meter rosak.


Added on October 5, 2009, 11:39 pm
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@Ruztynail

Here you go:

COM 7, baud rate 4800 Click Here

COM 7, baud rate 9600 Click Here

Both with Exit function.  thumbup.gif
Opps... May I know wat are these 2 files? for Garmin?? hmm.gif
Sorry ya, maybe i miss out some reply here

Another Q.. do we need to run any keygen as per mobile phone installation to crack the Garmin or Papago??

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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:23 PM)
The least I go is when the meter shown about 30. Anyway, my fren told me that better pump petrol before yellow light.
if always under tank (< 50), will easily cause the fuel meter rosak.


Added on October 5, 2009, 11:39 pm

Opps... May I know wat are these 2 files? for Garmin??  hmm.gif
Sorry ya, maybe i miss out some reply here

Another Q.. do we need to run any keygen as per mobile phone installation to crack the Garmin or Papago??
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The two files are for PaPaGO X3, you may use either one (No key needed). And YES, for Garmin, you need different key for different SD cards or devices.
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my old car..non proton is backward. Up manually, Auto down.. biggrin.gif


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Arr.i am from Pg..no idea for southern region market  sad.gif You can go to spare parts shop to look for it...
DON is a brand. It is a reputable and good brand but i don't see it anymore?? i think they stop their own brand and oem for other makers?

BENDIX..either Metal King titanium or CT General titanium stripe..cost around rm120 for front.

RS - You can search at garage sales-automotive forum..

EBC Black stuff..around rm180..
EBC Green stuff...rm400  smile.gif this is good stuff.. smile.gif

FeRoDo ZeRo - around rm110. Abit noisy..
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Thank you for your input. I checked with an accesorries shop. Quoted me RM 110 for Bendix Metal King Titanium. So i placed an order with him. This model should be okay right? with adequate stopping power and long life. however, based on reviews i read, the Bendix MKT is harsh on the discs? how true is this may i know? Have you tried using MKT before?

Next up, installation. The proton SC quoted me RM 40 for installation. Is this a fair price? or can i do it elsewhere for much cheaper?

Thanks in advance for your kind assistance ralf bro.
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Helo guys,

Im new here, owned a 2007 M/T , m line persona.

Just like to know if any of you installed a K&N drop in filter?
Im hoping it will smoothen the rpm range of 2000-2300. My car have a rather harsh note on that rpm which coincides with the torque curve.

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Hi Persona owner,

Can anyone tell me how to take out the air-cond filter from Persona? Now my air-cond's air blow out really suck. Really need to take out and wash liao.

Pefer guide me in more details. Did i need to take out the passenger dashboard? Tried few times, but not even can take out the dashboard!


Thank you.


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Hi Persona owner,

Can anyone tell me how to take out the air-cond filter from Persona? Now my air-cond's air blow out really suck. Really need to take out and wash liao.

Pefer guide me in more details. Did i need to take out the passenger dashboard? Tried few times, but not even can take out the dashboard!
Thank you.
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I figure out how to take out the air-cond filter already!
After wash, it make big different. rclxms.gif

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Sigh, my internal center roof lamp just died. My car is not even 4 months old, already died. Really low quality. I only put it to the middle position where it will light up everytime open the doors.

Wonder is it the bulb or something else. Guess i need to ask them to check/replace during my 3rd service soon. Is this covered by warranty or is this considered normal wear and tear parts?


oh btw, i also just installed and tested the Papago X3 on my A900. Works ok.

Thanks to roiss for sharing the instructions!
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Oct 8 2009, 01:29 AM)
Sigh, my internal center roof lamp just died. My car is not even 4 months old, already died. Really low quality. I only put it to the middle position where it will light up everytime open the doors.

Wonder is it the bulb or something else. Guess i need to ask them to check/replace during my 3rd service soon. Is this covered by warranty or is this considered normal wear and tear parts?
oh btw, i also just installed and tested the Papago X3 on my A900. Works ok.

Thanks to roiss for sharing the instructions!
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bulb is considered as wear n tear item...try go a bulb to replace...the manual gt instructions on hw to replace the bulb...
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QUOTE(fredricewe @ Oct 6 2009, 04:23 PM)
Hi Persona owner,

Can anyone tell me how to take out the air-cond filter from Persona? Now my air-cond's air blow out really suck. Really need to take out and wash liao.

Pefer guide me in more details. Did i need to take out the passenger dashboard? Tried few times, but not even can take out the dashboard!
Thank you.


Added on October 7, 2009, 11:20 am
I figure out how to take out the air-cond filter already!
After wash, it make big different.  rclxms.gif
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i think there's a link on how to remove aircond filter..either form thepersonaclub.com or proton community.
btw..just want to share..my average currently is 6.7l/100km..i know this figure kennot be trusted at all..but nice to see the number keep decreasing..
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thanks roiss....
successfully installed X3 on A900..... huuuuuu......
nOw enjoying the GPS very much..huuuu..
even go to works also pakai....hahah
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Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects.. mad.gif

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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Oct 8 2009, 01:29 AM)
Sigh, my internal center roof lamp just died. My car is not even 4 months old, already died. Really low quality. I only put it to the middle position where it will light up everytime open the doors.

Wonder is it the bulb or something else. Guess i need to ask them to check/replace during my 3rd service soon. Is this covered by warranty or is this considered normal wear and tear parts?
oh btw, i also just installed and tested the Papago X3 on my A900. Works ok.

Thanks to roiss for sharing the instructions!
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QUOTE(nsty @ Oct 8 2009, 01:33 PM)
Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects..  mad.gif

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Anyone encountered some funny sound when engaging your gear from N to D in break and paddle free situation?
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that is normal...as the converter changes the position of the gears....


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Was really in a hurry just now, and when reversing, i reversed into an Atos at the back. sad.gif Aiyo, my heart broke when seeing the scratches on my bumper, but then I realised, only scratches, but the Atos got a deep dent at the bumper. nod.gif
Atleast that made me feel better, although some effort is needed to cover the scratches and remove the paint. Now I really really have no mood dy.. sad.gif
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Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects..  mad.gif

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Wow!! many many thanks didn't know that this filter is detachable and cleanable!



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clean it every month or two and the aircond will stay cool and good blowing all the time... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nsty @ Oct 8 2009, 01:33 PM)
Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects..  mad.gif

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wah~ very nice DIY airfilter cleaning.
want to check this evening.

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that is normal...as the converter changes the position of the gears....
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thanks for reply. Really is normal? I dont have this problem at the first half year i get my car. After tat the sounds keep irritating me until today. The sounds like something shaking and just appeared on the moment i change the gear from N to D and perform some slight acceleration on the padel.
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QUOTE(nsty @ Oct 8 2009, 01:33 PM)
Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects..  mad.gif

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THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH!!!! Been peeking for a while.. dono it's juz like the house air-con filter.. appreciate for sharing smile.gif
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1st: Did proton persona really under power during pick up? When i drive, the car is speed up slowly, but the engine sound is loud and annoying.... izzit coz of the clutch problem?

2nd : Anyone facing the engine knocking sound during climb hill?

3rd : Klok klok sound infront the suspension during go through the uneven road without cornering ( can feel from the clutch and accelerate pedal...feel like something loose)....but nt the metal knocking sound of the power steering hose
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QUOTE(Helloxuan @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)
thanks for reply. Really is normal? I dont have this problem at the first half year i get my car. After tat the sounds keep irritating me until today. The sounds like something shaking and just appeared on the moment i change the gear from N to D and perform some slight acceleration on the padel.
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try shifting (with brake pressed fully) from N> D after few sec shift back to N > R......for few times...u can hear some "machenical" sound when u shifting....if yes then i guess its normal
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QUOTE(jack111 @ Oct 8 2009, 08:52 PM)
1st: Did proton persona really under power during pick up? When i drive, the car is speed up slowly, but the engine sound is loud and annoying.... izzit coz of the clutch problem?

2nd : Anyone facing the engine knocking sound during climb hill?

3rd : Klok klok sound infront the suspension during go through the uneven road without cornering ( can feel from the clutch and accelerate pedal...feel like something loose)....but nt the metal knocking sound of the power steering hose
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1st: yes, becasue persona is so heavy 1200kg...
2nd: yes, my persona facing the same issue, when after turning left and go in straight direction a while, the KOK sound also come out, can feel on the fuel pedal also...anyone solved this problem?
3rd:i dont have this problem.


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QUOTE(Helloxuan @ Oct 8 2009, 08:23 PM)
thanks for reply. Really is normal? I dont have this problem at the first half year i get my car. After tat the sounds keep irritating me until today. The sounds like something shaking and just appeared on the moment i change the gear from N to D and perform some slight acceleration on the padel.
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yes, i had this problem also on my 3 months old persona, finally i found the cause, it is because of 1 hose (rubber pipe) on the top side of the engine (on top of the crank pulley) went the wrong path, the hose should be power steering hose or aircon hose, cant remember, it stuck beneath the metal frame/support, so when you pull the gear from N to D, the engine tilt forward, and stretch the hose and the irritating shaking sound will occur.

Just put the hose on top of the metal frame/support so it wont stretch by the engine then no more sound liao...

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QUOTE(nsty @ Oct 8 2009, 01:33 PM)
Cleaning the air-cond filter is a rather simple task. Gone down to my car just to snap these photos. The filter won't be as dirty as you'd think, mostly small insects..  mad.gif

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success..huh mmg banyak gile habuk!
bangkai lipas pun ada..hehe
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success..huh mmg banyak gile habuk!
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QUOTE(jack111 @ Oct 8 2009, 08:52 PM)
1st: Did proton persona really under power during pick up? When i drive, the car is speed up slowly, but the engine sound is loud and annoying.... izzit coz of the clutch problem?

2nd : Anyone facing the engine knocking sound during climb hill?

3rd : Klok klok sound infront the suspension during go through the uneven road without cornering ( can feel from the clutch and accelerate pedal...feel like something loose)....but nt the metal knocking sound of the power steering hose
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can be easily solve, change LCP is best investment...then follow by exhaust set up...if u fm Penang, can show u....
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are you driving an auto? which workshop did you go to modify your exhaust setup?
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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 9 2009, 11:20 AM)
u buka tingkap slalu ? smile.gif

mine very less dust only,  seldom wind down window..
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aircon filter tu baru tau bukak.
sekali bukak mmg tebal la habuk dia..

i seldom wind down the window.
becoz i drive fast always smile.gif
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can be easily solve, change LCP is best investment...then follow by exhaust set up...if u fm Penang, can show u....
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you mean can easily solve the KOK sound also?
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Is it normal or persona characteristic, when up to 5th gear, engine lost power,

Just now wen to PE test drive persona m-line, manual, very good pick up, but lost power when shift to 5th gear.
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just received my H-line persona 2 weeks ago.......found out that the sound for the reverse is barely audible from inside the car.....all personas have this problem or just mine? Can I increase the sound levels so that i can actually hear the beeps of the reverse sensor? Thanks
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yup, the reverse sensor is dmn slow..
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just received my H-line persona 2 weeks ago.......found out that the sound for the reverse is barely audible from inside the car.....all personas have this problem or just mine? Can I increase the sound levels so that i can actually hear the beeps of the reverse sensor? Thanks
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QUOTE(fahmisarkawi @ Oct 9 2009, 10:20 PM)
just received my H-line persona 2 weeks ago.......found out that the sound for the reverse is barely audible from inside the car.....all personas have this problem or just mine? Can I increase the sound levels so that i can actually hear the beeps of the reverse sensor? Thanks
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the reverse sensor is memang soft...i gotta turn off my radio everytime i reverse my car.
anyway can make it abit louder?
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ahah... the reverse sensors...

my experience; reverse my car quite fast for the 3-point-turn but only able to make only 1 turn becoz already knocked down my dad's motorcycle down. Paint job damaged too.. shop said that can be recovered by polished.. but, nevermind ah.. i let it as it is to remind me to be careful next time.

someone's nightmare experience; at KLIA airport, he make a reverse parking to get into the lot. But, knocked the pillar although i guess he moved the car adequately slow. Paint job damaged. body still OK..

So, my guess, don't trust the sensors. You still have to see thru the side/rear mirror and be sure before move your car to reverse.

want to make the sound louder.. i remember someone said can move the speaker from the rear boot to somewhere else (inside the cabin?) maybe?
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sent it to SC....they said its normal that the beep sound is barely audible...... WTF??....might as well dont put the reverse sensors in the car in the first place......mangkuk hayun punya proton........kena complain kat proton nie........
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normally i wind down the window to hear the sound when doing reverse tongue.gif
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my back door passenger side lock!! sometimes doesnt work whn i turn on the central lock.. geeezz. only one month old.. so i always hv to check if its lock or not bfr i leave the car.
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Haha hey regarding the soft reverse sensor beep, you can try to flat fold your rear seats and you'll hear very loud beeps! Other than seating passengers, the rear seats also absorb and insulate sound, so you'll hear very very soft beeps because the beeping speaker is placed in the boot area. Once you fold your rear seats, you'll experience lots of noise intrusion into the cabin also
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"Haha hey regarding the soft reverse sensor beep, you can try to flat fold your rear seats and you'll hear very loud beeps! Other than seating passengers, the rear seats also absorb and insulate sound, so you'll hear very very soft beeps because the beeping speaker is placed in the boot area. Once you fold your rear seats, you'll experience lots of noise intrusion into the cabin also"

- Really?...ok will try that.....they should have made the beeper speaker inside the car or integrated with the audio....thanks for the tip NSTY.....
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where exactly the reverse sensor beeper is located?

another thing, i noticed that the dashboard upper portion is also painted. Now since i have stuck my Pegasus tweeters there... next time i take it off it will peel off the paint???

Ps. damn....i hate painted dashboards.... i swore before never to buy a car with one.... now i owned one..... damn it.
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The upper portion of the dashboard is painted? you sure......i think mine is just textured plastic.....will check to confirm....
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hi guys

Can u guys tell me where proton SC that allow us to bring our own engine oil??

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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 10 2009, 04:58 PM)
where exactly the reverse sensor beeper is located?

another thing, i noticed that the dashboard upper portion is also painted. Now since i have stuck my Pegasus tweeters there... next time i take it off it will peel off the paint???

Ps. damn....i hate painted dashboards.... i swore before never to buy a car with one.... now i owned one..... damn it.
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erm izzit? coz my dashboard also got peeled bcoz of putting steering lock in the hot sun..

now got circle peeled at the top of my cockpit.. >.<
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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Oct 8 2009, 05:40 PM)
Was really in a hurry just now, and when reversing, i reversed into an Atos at the back.  sad.gif  Aiyo, my heart broke when seeing the scratches on my bumper, but then I realised, only scratches, but the Atos got a deep dent at the bumper.  nod.gif
Atleast that made me feel better, although some effort is needed to cover the scratches and remove the paint. Now I really really have no mood dy..  sad.gif
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I kenot tahan la seeing the scratches on the bumper. No other way except for repaint, as the paint has peeled, but not so obvious, since my car is black. Went to the spray shop today, quoted RM 100 to paint the scratched part. He is confident that it will look the same and no difference can be seen after repaint. But he also said that if I'm afraid, I can paint the whole bumper, for RM 150. What do you guys think? Can the repaint be noticeable?
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just out of curiosity..
had anyone ever find any die cast model of persona in the market...
kinda want one...heeee
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update on FC record

total distance: 309.2km
FC meter: 10.4L/100km
route: 100% penang town driving
amount: rm65
fuel: shell ron95
real world calculation: rm0.21
mileage till to date: 38k km

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just out of curiosity..
had anyone ever find any die cast model of persona in the market...
kinda want one...heeee
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I want 1/18 scale lol
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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 10 2009, 10:33 PM)
update on FC record

total distance: 309.2km
FC meter: 10.4L/100km
route: 100% penang town driving
amount: rm65
fuel: shell ron95
real world calculation: rm0.21
mileage till to date: 38k km

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wow going to 40k d..mine 40340km up to date...and i feel the FC is getting better compare to 10k-30k mileage.... laugh.gif
btw hw is shell's fuel on persona???.....i jz use esso/caltex/bhp so far....still prefer caltex coz acceleration more quieter and smoother... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Oct 9 2009, 05:16 PM)
Is it normal or persona characteristic, when up to 5th gear, engine lost power,

Just now wen to PE test drive persona m-line, manual, very good pick up, but lost power when shift to 5th gear.
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My sis want ot buy Persona SE...what is the cheaper interest can get for Proton car...Area Kulim or Penang...someone can help?? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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another thing,

is it possible to remote on the amplifier with the stock persona player? because i argued with the technician the other day. he said persona players cannot tap the wires to remote on the amplifier. therefore, my amplifier will be immediately switched on when the car key is turned regardless my player is on or not.

ps. i had my amplifier remote on with my stock myvi player. So i cannot understand how come this technician dunno how to do. I heard that most probably he lacks knowledge to manipulate the wires???


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QUOTE(Ryuluvlia @ Oct 10 2009, 05:55 PM)
hi guys

Can u guys tell me where proton SC that allow us to bring our own engine oil??
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Depends on where you are from. If you are in the Klang valley, Jln 227 PJ is OK with it. But please insist on your own lube. when making appointment. Proton SC will always try to push their Petronas by exploiting gullible car owners. Know your rights and they will back down. You can always check with the SC when making appointment before sending in you car. All service consumables & spares are always very much cheaper when purchased from reputable spare part stockists.
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 11 2009, 12:35 AM)
another thing,

is it possible to remote on the amplifier with the stock persona player? because i argued with the technician the other day. he said persona players cannot tap the wires to remote on the amplifier. therefore, my amplifier will be immediately switched on when the car key is turned regardless my player is on or not.

ps. i had my amplifier remote on with my stock myvi player. So i cannot understand how come this technician dunno how to do. I heard that most probably he lacks knowledge to manipulate the wires???
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you mean "amp"???......like add-on a subwoofer something??.....if yes...then its ok...coz i add a subwoofer+amplifier to the stock player..
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QUOTE(nsty @ Oct 10 2009, 09:44 AM)
Haha hey regarding the soft  reverse sensor beep, you can try to flat fold your rear seats and you'll hear very loud beeps! Other than seating passengers, the rear seats also absorb and insulate sound, so you'll hear very very soft beeps because the beeping speaker is placed in the boot area. Once you fold your rear seats, you'll experience lots of noise intrusion into the cabin also
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oh no...this is bad news for me.my persona is a b-line. so means the rear seat cant be fold down...argghhhhh
anyway to relocate the beeping speakers?
i tried to look back during reverse..but then the boot kinda high...hahaha

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QUOTE(strannger @ Oct 11 2009, 01:27 PM)
oh no...this is bad news for me.my persona is a b-line. so means the rear seat cant be fold down...argghhhhh
anyway to relocate the beeping speakers?
i tried to look back during reverse..but then the boot kinda high...hahaha
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Look at side mirror, not the back view mirror.

Judge the distance of the bumper to the car behind by looking at the car parked next to you.
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QUOTE(rckh @ Oct 11 2009, 08:49 AM)
Depends on where you are from. If you are in the Klang valley, Jln 227 PJ is OK with it. But please insist on your own lube. when making appointment. Proton SC will always try to push their Petronas by exploiting gullible car owners. Know your rights and they will back down. You can always check with the SC when making appointment before sending in you car. All service consumables & spares are always very much cheaper when purchased from reputable spare part stockists.
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thx for the reply

i'm in subang area
will try to insist using my own oil..

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Guys,
Any idea where to install the round ignition key light for Persona?
It's kinda strange as Wira had it, but Persona doesn't have it...especially Persona SE...
I went to few accessories shops but they said not able to install one...
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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 10 2009, 10:33 PM)
update on FC record

total distance: 309.2km
FC meter: 10.4L/100km
route: 100% penang town driving
amount: rm65
fuel: shell ron95
real world calculation: rm0.21
mileage till to date: 38k km

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well, probably becoz it's 100% town driving.
Now i using Caltex ron95. Pumped rm70, and my distance travelled so far is 450km. still haven't empty yet. reckon can go another 20km i guess. but i'm driving LDP highway most of the time.

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 10 2009, 11:27 PM)
wow going to 40k d..mine 40340km up to date...and i feel the FC is getting better compare to 10k-30k mileage.... laugh.gif
btw hw is shell's fuel on persona???.....i jz use esso/caltex/bhp so far....still prefer caltex coz acceleration more quieter and smoother... laugh.gif
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loong, after change to Mobil 1 Full Synthetic oil, is there noticeable difference in terms of FC for you?

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My sis want ot buy Persona SE...what is the cheaper interest can get for Proton car...Area Kulim or Penang...someone can help?? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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will be heading for my 3rd service....any advice guys??
this will be my LAST stop at proton SC, after this will be just going for 3rd party SC much cheaper though... brows.gif

i will bring my own oil this time; Caltex Havoline 10w-40 wink.gif
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Dear all Persona owner how to differential between M-line and H-line when I take my car?
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very easy only to differene m/line with h'line.... if u can get inside the car.. u can notice air bag in passenger . by outside u can notice there were disc brake at behind wheel.. m/line got 1 disc brake and h/line got 2 disc brake
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QUOTE(dbtel74 @ Oct 11 2009, 08:32 PM)
Guys,
Any idea where to install the round ignition key light for Persona?
It's kinda strange as Wira had it, but Persona doesn't have it...especially Persona SE...
I went to few accessories shops but they said not able to install one...
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i believe..i read a post about this matter in this forum.
there is a guy who open his persona dashboard and discover..there is already the ignition key light installed..comes with bulb also..but the wiring is not connected to main power.
me myself discover..there is a clear round thing that surround the key hole..and i believe to be the ignition key light hmm.gif

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Was it worth to take Persona with ABS + EBD (H-line)?
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QUOTE(zarreta @ Oct 12 2009, 11:27 AM)
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huh?? so means every persona is like tat?? but why is there a bulb whn thy dont install it to the main supply? defeats the purpose right?
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QUOTE(zarreta @ Oct 12 2009, 11:27 AM)
i believe..i read a post about this matter in this forum.
there is a guy who open his persona dashboard and discover..there is already the ignition key light installed..comes with bulb also..but the wiring is not connected to main power.
me myself discover..there is a clear round thing that surround the key hole..and i believe to be the ignition key light  hmm.gif
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Hi all, i just assembly the Guang Dao Super Gold VS ... not bad ... my persona become smooth .... huh .... still thinking of add-on Ground / Earth cable / Nano Fuel , for fuel saver and more powerful ... any advice ?
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 10 2009, 11:27 PM)
wow going to 40k d..mine 40340km up to date...and i feel the FC is getting better compare to 10k-30k mileage.... laugh.gif
btw hw is shell's fuel on persona???.....i jz use esso/caltex/bhp so far....still prefer caltex coz acceleration more quieter and smoother... laugh.gif
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barely any difference compare to ron97. FC recorded almost same as before.. yawn.gif


Added on October 12, 2009, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Oct 12 2009, 01:40 AM)
well, probably becoz it's 100% town driving.
Now i using Caltex ron95. Pumped rm70, and my distance travelled so far is 450km. still haven't empty yet. reckon can go another 20km i guess. but i'm driving LDP highway most of the time.

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Yeah, true true. Yesterday, driving 90 km in penang island , pusing here and there..more than one bar fuel gone already! How i drive? Revv less than 2.4k rpm, gear change at 2k rpm or lower..FC still 8.5L/100km ! cry.gif Bear in mind, this is Sunday pleasure drive with less traffic..
Tyre inflate to 33psi front, 32psi rear...

I just figure out CAMPRO, the moment you start the engine, just drive it...Idling and stuck in slow traffic, good luck then..

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Oct 12 2009, 12:14 PM)
huh?? so means every persona is like tat?? but why is there a bulb whn thy dont install it to the main supply? defeats the purpose right?
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check ur persona..whether your's one has the clear thing surround the key hole or not..i believe all persona has. i'm not sure about the bulb..never open the dashboard..just read a post about it in this forum.

QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 12 2009, 01:30 PM)
Can DIY or not?
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if u'r good in technical thing..why not DIY it...then..share it here biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ralf @ Oct 12 2009, 02:32 PM)
barely any difference compare to ron97. FC recorded almost same as before.. yawn.gif


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Yeah, true true. Yesterday, driving 90 km in penang island , pusing here and there..more than one bar fuel gone already! How i drive? Revv less than 2.4k rpm, gear change at 2k rpm or lower..FC still 8.5L/100km ! cry.gif Bear in mind, this is Sunday pleasure drive with less traffic..
Tyre inflate to 33psi front, 32psi rear...

I just figure out CAMPRO, the moment you start the engine, just drive it...Idling and stuck in slow traffic, good luck then..
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crap..la...no matter how i change gear be it 2k rpm/2.5rpm/3rpm....the result is around the same......campro=fuel sucker...... yawn.gif
pump 34psi front,32psi rear.......and the full tank to 1st bar decrease damn fast if you quite heavy footed.... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(zarreta @ Oct 12 2009, 03:01 PM)
check ur persona..whether your's one has the clear thing surround the key hole or not..i believe all persona has. i'm not sure about the bulb..never open the dashboard..just read a post about it in this forum.
if u'r good in technical thing..why not DIY it...then..share it here  biggrin.gif
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very well..must find some good accessories workshop to connect the wiring, if it's applicable...
If Wira could have it installed and wired, why not Persona?

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QUOTE(zarreta @ Oct 12 2009, 03:01 PM)
check ur persona..whether your's one has the clear thing surround the key hole or not..i believe all persona has. i'm not sure about the bulb..never open the dashboard..just read a post about it in this forum.
if u'r good in technical thing..why not DIY it...then..share it here  biggrin.gif
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i need some sifu here to teach me......kenot simply plug and play sweat.gif
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Steps to install:  laugh.gif

Before proceeding, make a backup of the original navigation software by copying a folder named 'Guider' under the SD card root.

1. Download GMXT from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IPEP11SI

2. Download CEDESKTOP from http://rapidshare.com/files/37224775/ceDesktop.exe

3. Extract the downloaded GMXT. Goto \...\Garmin\Apps\WM\. Look for QueBmp240.dll and rename it to QueBmp240_orig.dll. Then look for QueBmp320.dll and rename it to QueBmp240.all.

3. Copy the folder named 'Garmin' to SD card.

4. Rename the downloaded CEDESKTOP to dp_Guider and replace it with the original one under the 'Guider' folder.

5. Reset the device by switching the ON/OFF button.

6. After resetting, tap on the navigation icon. The Windows will be started and then hidden. Tap once again and you will see a Windows CE interface.

7. Now, execute  'SD card\Garmin\Apps\WM\Que.exe' and look for the Card ID. Use the ID to generate unlock code. Create a notepad file and name it SW.UNL. Copy this file to Garmin folder.

8. Copy your GMAPSUPP.img file to the Garmin folder.  Done.  rclxm9.gif
Happy Journey!
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1. Settings of Garmin will restore to default after resetting. (Right now I only leave it in Standby mode to prevent this)
2. Volume of the device will increase after configuring the backlight in Garmin. (Uncheck all the checkboxes regarding to backlight setting. Use the original setting of the unit.)
3. The taskbar of Windows CE cannot be shown properly..  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 8 2009, 09:00 PM)
try shifting (with brake pressed fully) from N> D after few sec shift back to N > R......for few times...u can hear some "machenical" sound when u shifting....if yes then i guess its normal
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Yup this is the mechanical sound i talking about. Every gear shifting this sound will appear.
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QUOTE(Helloxuan @ Oct 13 2009, 08:30 PM)
Yup this is the mechanical sound i talking about. Every gear shifting this sound will appear.
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then its normal..la...
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ Oct 8 2009, 09:03 PM)
1st: yes, becasue persona is so heavy 1200kg...
2nd: yes, my persona facing the same issue, when after turning left and go in straight direction a while, the KOK sound also come out, can feel on the fuel pedal also...anyone solved this problem?
3rd:i dont have this problem.


Added on October 8, 2009, 9:12 pm
yes,  i had this problem also on my 3 months old persona, finally i found the cause, it is because of 1 hose (rubber pipe) on the top side of the engine (on top of the crank pulley) went the wrong path, the hose should be power steering hose or aircon hose, cant remember, it stuck beneath the metal frame/support, so when you pull the gear from N to D, the engine tilt forward, and stretch the hose and the irritating shaking sound will occur.

Just put the hose on top of the metal frame/support so it wont stretch by the engine then no more sound liao...
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Wah that simple only? I sent my car to 5 different center non of it found the solution for me. U found this solution by urself ? And 1 stupid question where is the crank pulley?
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post Oct 13 2009, 08:43 PM

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any1 hav this problem before?

the driver side windows will drop down and canot come up again if u press it fully down

i went to service tat guy said is like tat one

imagine how big troubled it bring to me

last time it wasnt like tat, suddenly become like tat

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thts bs, mine 2 years oledi still works like charm..

go to other sc
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Same here

Why almost everyone's Persona giving them problem? sweat.gif

I drive like monster but the car aint complaining
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 13 2009, 09:44 PM)
Same here

Why almost everyone's Persona giving them problem? sweat.gif

I drive like monster but the car aint complaining
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hmmm....yeah..mine no problem reached 40k++ around 1year 11months which is going to 2years d..everything still works like charm.....just replace tear and wear items....
btw jonspark,ultima i guess your persona is 1st batch rite? without iafm rite???...maybe the 1st batch persona have better quality since i dont really have problem with the car despite my driving style quite rough once a while....
but FC is real problem laugh.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:55 PM)
hmmm....yeah..mine no problem reached 40k++ around 1year 11months which is going to 2years d..everything still works like charm.....just replace tear and wear items....
btw jonspark,ultima i guess your persona is 1st batch rite? without iafm rite???...maybe the 1st batch persona have better quality since i dont really have problem with the car despite my driving style quite rough once a while....
but FC is real problem laugh.gif
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yup, 1st batch.

No IAFM, VIM or CPS......wanna mod the car also no need to worry brows.gif

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does anyone install after market HU for ur persona? care to post out the pics? thanks.....

i'm might wanna mod the HU.... but i'm not sure hows the looks like when after install the new HU for persona...
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 13 2009, 10:13 PM)
yup, 1st batch.

No IAFM, VIM or CPS......wanna mod the car also no need to worry brows.gif
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wait till the turbocharged cps come out la, then swap it brows.gif

QUOTE(NSX_MY @ Oct 13 2009, 11:24 PM)
does anyone install after market HU for ur persona? care to post out the pics? thanks.....

i'm might wanna mod the HU.... but i'm not sure hows the looks like when after install the new HU for persona...
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The persona should be a 2-din hu. In the garage sales got people selling the custom hu cover for gen2/persona. That should make the dashboard a bit narutal when installing after market hu

For a b-line owner, shouldn't worry too much, but for m-line and above owner, have to sacrifice the buttons at the steering sweat.gif

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so btw, what type of auto tranny Persona is using? Invecs 2 from mitsubishi? cuz i saw the invecs 2 in the persona manual book....
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 14 2009, 12:02 AM)
so btw, what type of auto tranny Persona is using? Invecs 2 from mitsubishi? cuz i saw the invecs 2 in the persona manual book....
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yes invecs II=SPIII atf fluid......and hyundai elantra,naza accent all using invecsII....and some other korean cars
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i wonder if anyone have the solution to some of the common persona prob such as -

metal clunking sound when turning on uneven ground

rattling sound in the air con

ignition key hole light? is it there?
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my persona also have the problem that u mention . this morning just went to SC to replace the middle aircond windows (dont know what to call it - the inner Black color plastic that we can pull left or right 1). after replace it , no more cound come out . bout the metal clunking sound , since i got my car till now the SC still cannot find out the problem , SAD ! bout the key hole light , no idea... coz mine one also have no light there...
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btw, on B-Line model does it have the sealbelt indicator if the seatbelt is not buckled? because when i didnt use seatbelt there is no blinking seat belt indicator....
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QUOTE(d1stant @ Oct 14 2009, 02:37 PM)
i wonder if anyone have the solution to some of the common persona prob such as -

metal clunking sound when turning on uneven ground

rattling sound in the air con

ignition key hole light? is it there?
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1) Are your rear seat the split/foldable type? If they are, the sound is most likely caused by the locking mechanism (specifically the striker) of the foldable rear seat back. The seat lock striker is similar to the door lock striker found at the centre pillar & rear quarter panel of all 4 door saloon cars which hooks on the door lock when you close the doors. You just need to use a bit of electrical tape( those for insulating wires) to insulate the seat back striker & the sound will be eliminated. That's what I did on my Persona. First, I thought the sound was from the suspension but no it is cause by the locking mechanism of the rear seat back when the car moves & vibrate. Remember not to use too much tape or else you won't be ale to fold the rear seat back to its original position. If your rear seats are not the type stated above. My guess is as good as yours.

2) Does the sound from the air-con occur all the the time or only when you turn on the a/c & gone later. Is it some sort of a hissing sound. If it is, it is the normal sound emanating from the expansion valve. I suggest you increase the volumn of the radio & enjoy the coolness i.e if the a/c is still cold. My month old Persona can be excruciatingly cold even at the almost lowest temperature.


3)Have not explore the possibility of lighting up the ignition key hole light yet. Not really a priority.

Lastly, please don't expect too much from a 50K plus car. Even a 78K E-spec (lowest) VIOS has it fair share of problems. To me, IMO, as an average Joe, any car below 70K is a cheap car. And the Persona as a whole offers cheap solutions.
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:55 PM)
hmmm....yeah..mine no problem reached 40k++ around 1year 11months which is going to 2years d..everything still works like charm.....just replace tear and wear items....
btw jonspark,ultima i guess your persona is 1st batch rite? without iafm rite???...maybe the 1st batch persona have better quality since i dont really have problem with the car despite my driving style quite rough once a while....
but FC is real problem laugh.gif
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yup, mine first batch, non iafm cps vim whtsoever..

60k mileage already..

in terms of fc, hi way driving i can get around 430-450 km full tank, n i guess its good for auto tho... no mod whtsoever, juz install vs+gw only..

but in town, fuel sucker, 350km full tank also hard to reach...


Added on October 14, 2009, 5:18 pm
QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 14 2009, 02:19 PM)
yes invecs II=SPIII atf fluid......and hyundai elantra,naza accent all using invecsII....and some other korean cars
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yup, invecs II..

chg gb oil at 40k mileage long ago using delphi brand, dunno spIII atf fluid or not lol...

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QUOTE(Ultima @ Oct 14 2009, 05:16 PM)
yup, mine first batch, non iafm cps vim whtsoever..

60k mileage already..

in terms of fc, hi way driving i can get around 430-450 km full tank, n i guess its good for auto tho... no mod whtsoever, juz install vs+gw only..

but in town, fuel sucker, 350km full tank also hard to reach...


Added on October 14, 2009, 5:18 pm

yup, invecs II..

chg gb oil at 40k mileage long ago using delphi brand, dunno spIII atf fluid or not lol...
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haha...mine 40k....FC have to live with it..la...since i travel frm klang to subang everyday with jam all...full tank most also 300km++ laugh.gif using
caltex ron95 and mobil 1 fully-syn still dont have really improvement on FC. but lighter acceleration,quieter and smoother engine sound..but caltex ron97 feel so underpower and no pickup... sweat.gif
wow...delphi??..I just stick to proton atf fluid only and change every 20k km.....i dare not use other brand since grading will be different... laugh.gif

bro ultima...what petrol you use eh??...


Added on October 14, 2009, 6:37 pm
QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 14 2009, 03:53 PM)
btw, on B-Line model does it have the sealbelt indicator if the seatbelt is not buckled? because when i didnt use seatbelt there is no blinking seat belt indicator....
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persona from B-line till SE dosent have seatbelt indicator....only i think only for export versions....heck even the saga blm,viva,myvi do have seat belt warning.....why cant just proton install it one??......and most cars these days seatbelt warning can be found in every cars even some with warning tone... laugh.gif

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i prefer the non-seatbelt alarm version as it is smile.gif
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Problems and problems...but what the hack, for a complete car with RM60k and below...bear with it la...

1. The front metal clunking sound when turning on uneven ground, be it left or right - not solved.

2. The rattling sound at the air-cond blower - "glak...glak..." sound, not solved.

3. The ignition key hole light? YES, it is there - but no light.

4. The seatbelt warning indicator - not functioning, but hope it is, with a silent one.

5. FC? Fuiyoh...town-driving sucks, like water-drinking only...less than 320km full tank. But for Hi-way, fuiyoh again...about 450km full tank - SHELL supersavers la...

Other than that, I wub.gif my PERSONA SE...!!!

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 14 2009, 06:33 PM)
haha...mine 40k....FC have to live with it..la...since i travel frm klang  to subang everyday with jam all...full tank most also 300km++ laugh.gif using
caltex ron95 and mobil 1 fully-syn still dont have really improvement on FC. but lighter acceleration,quieter and smoother engine sound..but caltex ron97 feel so underpower and no pickup... sweat.gif
wow...delphi??..I just stick to proton atf fluid only and change every 20k km.....i dare not use other brand since grading will be different... laugh.gif

bro ultima...what petrol you use eh??...

petrol? now using caltex, sumtimes bhp ^^

its not tht i dun wan to use proton atf fluid, its juz wanna try other brand, thts all huhu..

maybe later chg to proton back huhu, till now my gb feels still ok, shud chg now tho, 60k mileage oledi lol...

btw, maybe i wanna try delo400 engine oil... hmmm...
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yup confirmed only export version has warning seat belt indicator...but trust me you guys arent missing much..........it just gives a 30 second beep warning (including the warning light) when starting the ignition..........thats about it.......
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Soo..... again, anyone here knows how the right hand front wheel "kok" sound will be solved?

Comment on facts and no pusing2 around the tree talks please....
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 15 2009, 12:57 PM)
Soo..... again, anyone here knows how the right hand front wheel "kok" sound will be solved?

Comment on facts and no pusing2 around the tree talks please....
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yeah... i am so desperately want to know this....
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my car still new...for fc if driving in town is abt 430km...
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could anyone list down the things i need to replace at 40k km service?
and if possible, also give me the best recommended item/brand..

my car going to service at 40k km soon

last time i service 4 20k km, need to pay rm600.
just change
fully synthetic oil
oil filter
spark plug
service charge is RM128

is that price reasonable or expensive?

by the way, i service at EON jalan kuala kangsar in ipoh.


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Where can i find the Card ID? Thanks.
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Tools > Settings > About smile.gif
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just place a deposit for H-line yesterday, cant wait to get it soon. BTW, seen like the GPS upgrade able to other version of software. Which one recommended? as i know the original software look suck...
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im going to do the first service tomorrow, can anybody give me advice about the first service, i don't want to be cheated by the sc personnel as i dont know very much about car maintenance, i've read many thread but got little idea
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As funny as it may seems regarding the metal clunking "kok" sound, I guess its a sign that our cars is in need for some hardcore exhaust penetration lol.
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QUOTE(luriazidnaffa @ Oct 15 2009, 02:26 PM)
could anyone list down the things i need to replace at 40k km service?
and if possible, also give me the best recommended item/brand..

my car going to service at 40k km soon

last time i service 4 20k km, need to pay rm600.
just change
fully synthetic oil
oil filter
spark plug
service charge is RM128

is that price reasonable or expensive?

by the way, i service at EON jalan kuala kangsar in ipoh.
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Congrats, consider yourself just been robbed.

My Ah Beng does all the above for only costs of material plus maybe RM20 labour. Whole thing take maybe 20 minutes.

Estimated Material cost:

FS Oil - 200
Oil filter - 10
plugs - 16
labour - 20

Estimated RM246 only.


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QUOTE(dbtel74 @ Oct 14 2009, 10:40 PM)
Problems and problems...but what the hack, for a complete car with RM60k and below...bear with it la...

1. The front metal clunking sound when turning on uneven ground, be it left or right - not solved.

2. The rattling sound at the air-cond blower - "glak...glak..." sound, not solved. 

3. The ignition key hole light? YES, it is there - but no light.

4. The seatbelt warning indicator - not functioning, but hope it is, with a silent one.

5. FC? Fuiyoh...town-driving sucks, like water-drinking only...less than 320km full tank. But for Hi-way, fuiyoh again...about 450km full tank - SHELL supersavers la...

Other than that, I wub.gif my PERSONA SE...!!!
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I have exactly the same problems.

I can confirm with my Ah Beng that it is not possible to install lights for the keyhole as there is no bracket for it. Perhaps other people may have better idea?


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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Oct 15 2009, 11:18 PM)
im going to do the first service tomorrow, can anybody give me advice about the first service, i don't want to be cheated by the sc personnel as i dont know very much about car maintenance, i've read many thread but got little idea
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Careful of the Magnecrap thingy or they'll cheat you of your RM68.00! Bloody useless crap!

Yes you can bring your own oil. Don't believe the SCammers when they say that you have to accept their Petronas oil.



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i need to know for new car, till when do i need to service at Proton SC to maintain the warranty?

my car just doing 35k milage only.
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i need to know for new car, till when do i need to service at Proton SC to maintain the warranty?

my car just doing 35k milage only.
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If warranty is critical to you, you have to go to Proton SCammer.

Bring your own oil
change oil, filter and plugs only. If not mistaken at 40000km only. Check your manual.

For the above, outside workshop will charge only 20 max for labour. If SCammer charge RM100+ for labour for the same thing, then the warranty is not worth the paper its printed on.

Don't do other things like alignment, car wash etc or the SCammer will charge you an arm and a leg.

Best is to ask for the labour charge 1st! Don't wait till you get the bill.



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Soo..... again, anyone here knows how the right hand front wheel "kok" sound will be solved?

Comment on facts and no pusing2 around the tree talks please....
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Sooooo................... anyone?
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latest update on fc:
tested out this morning when the fuel warning on....fill in RM15=8liters++ of petrol and measure how far can i drive for rm15 of petrol

total distance covered for RM15 fuel: 126km++
fuel brand: caltex ron 95
driving conditions: highway 60%, city 40% (heavy jam at kesas bridge going to subang and ss15 slow traffic),
speed : 80km/h-120km/h, gear change at 2000-3000rpm
engine oil: mobil 1 0w40
last service : 39511km (current 40821km)
transmission:automatic, non iafm
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it is just estimated calculation from the moment i fill in and record it when the fuel warning light on

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already done the 1st service, i bring my own oil, at first they urge me to use their oil but i insist on using my own oil, i use mobil super s 10w 40, can't find mobil 2000 as loong2020 recommend, the seller said mobil has rebranded the mobil 200o, dont know is it true or not, btw i bought it at mobil petrol station, at the sc they only change the engine oil, gear oil, oil filter and add some windscreen cleaner into the water tank, overall the charged me rm66, the oil that i bought is rm98
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My Persona FC :
B-Line Manual , AIfm
External Part : GuangDaoSuper Gold VS , D1 Spec Super Earth
millage : 16k ++
Fuel Brand : Shell RON97 (RM 2.05/L)
speed : 80km/h-120km/h
Driving conditions: highway 20%, city 80%
Filled : RM50 = 22L ++
Conclusion :
overall around 260km ;
11.8km / L ;
17cent / km

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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Oct 16 2009, 08:47 PM)
already done the 1st service, i bring my own oil, at first they urge me to use their oil but i insist on using my own oil, i use mobil super s 10w 40, can't find mobil 2000 as loong2020 recommend, the seller said mobil has rebranded the mobil 200o, dont know is it true or not, btw i bought it at mobil petrol station, at the sc they only change the engine oil, gear oil, oil filter and add some windscreen cleaner into the water tank, overall the charged me rm66, the oil that i bought is rm98
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owh..molotov cocktail, Mobil Super S is same as Mobil Super 2000....mobil has change the packaging to Mobil Super 2000 for a new look.....either one is the same....no worries....=).....so hws the mobil semi syn so far???....lighter?? laugh.gif

add on: its not necessary to change gear oil at 1st service....maybe they chop you cause bring own oil, so they insist you to change gear oil to recover their lose.. brows.gif just to tell you honestly....avoid taking pakages where everything is included...just tell them the parts you want to change...

like 1st (1000km), 2nd (5000km), 3rd (10000km)....you only need to change:
1)engine oil
2)oil filter
3)spark plugs (10000km or 15000/20000km also can) (i change the first spark plug at around 20000km)
4)gear oil/atf fluid (20000km/30000km) depends on driving style hard or smooth
5)air filter (10000km/15000km)
6)coolant (every 15000km-25000km or 2years) try to use good coolant like "caltex long life and toyota long life"
7)others (depend tear and wear) rclxms.gif

hope this helps...even you know d... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Oct 16 2009, 08:47 PM)
already done the 1st service, i bring my own oil, at first they urge me to use their oil but i insist on using my own oil, i use mobil super s 10w 40, can't find mobil 2000 as loong2020 recommend, the seller said mobil has rebranded the mobil 200o, dont know is it true or not, btw i bought it at mobil petrol station, at the sc they only change the engine oil, gear oil, oil filter and add some windscreen cleaner into the water tank, overall the charged me rm66, the oil that i bought is rm98
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Why do you need to change the gear oil in your 1st service? Did they just do it or did you ask them to do it?


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really? no need to change gear oil at first service, i think i've read it somewhere that for a manual car for the first service need to change engine oil, filter n gear oil, for the mobile super s i feel lighter acceleration but the pickup as slow as before changing the oil, fyi i use caltex petrol, plan to try bhp next, as i need the pickup to overtake, currently the pickup doesnt satisfy me, some people say go for mobil petrol for pickup, maybe i'll give a try later
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QUOTE(alt3ch @ Oct 15 2009, 08:14 PM)
just place a deposit for H-line yesterday, cant wait to get it soon. BTW, seen like the GPS upgrade able to other version of software. Which one recommended? as i know the original software look suck...
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Added on October 17, 2009, 2:10 pmGoing to claim my side signal housing, it's broken! vmad.gif About the IAFM, can I just request for shortening the rod instead of replacing a new unit? It is getting noisier ... cacat betul doh.gif

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Hi all ...
I jus saw 1 persona color...dark grey..but there are like some slight purple on the metallic..just wonder what is that color call.
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i think my Aifm maniflo (dont know how to spelling) have problem , this morning when i 1st start the engine , it sound " ta , ta , ta , ta.... " . tiomorrow have to send to SC to check it .....
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hey guys...would like to ask abt the meter tat measure remaining distance u can go..izit reliable?
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I jus saw 1 persona color...dark grey..but there are like some slight purple on the metallic..just wonder what is that color call.


should be blue haze.a SE.

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I see people recommend Mobil Super 2000, but I can only find 10W-40, the booklet says we need 20W-50 to keep the warranty, is 10W-40 better than 20W-50? I assume the higher/lower the upper/lower number the better so 10W is better than 20W, but 40 is lower than 50.

Can someone confirm if Manual Gear Oil is required to be changed in the 1st service?

Also I have coupons for services (1k, 5k, 10k etc), does it mean free labour during services?

Also Molotov did they overfill the engine oil as we require 3.7l, mobil comes in 4l, did they give you back the leftovers?

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I see people recommend Mobil Super 2000, but I can only find 10W-40, the booklet says we need 20W-50 to keep the warranty, is 10W-40 better than 20W-50? I assume the higher/lower the upper/lower number the better so 10W is better than 20W, but 40 is lower than 50.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 18 2009, 02:00 AM)
I see people recommend Mobil Super 2000, but I can only find 10W-40, the booklet says we need 20W-50 to keep the warranty, is 10W-40 better than 20W-50? I assume the higher/lower the upper/lower number the better so 10W is better than 20W, but 40 is lower than 50.

Can someone confirm if Manual Gear Oil is required to be changed in the 1st service?

Also I have coupons for services (1k, 5k, 10k etc), does it mean free labour during services?

Also Molotov did they overfill the engine oil as we require 3.7l, mobil comes in 4l, did they give you back the leftovers?
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Manual gear oil no need to change

Yes, free labour for 1k, 5k + 19k servies, provided you don't fall for their famous scams like X1R, magnecrap, car engine wash.

Yes, they always overfill the engine oil. Make sure you pour out a bit, say 0.5 lt then give the remainder for them to fill. Do not trust them not to overfill. Overfilling can damage your engine.


Added on October 18, 2009, 2:37 am
QUOTE(keeplwk @ Oct 17 2009, 09:22 PM)
hey guys...would like to ask abt the meter tat measure remaining distance u can go..izit reliable?
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100% NO!

Nothing is accurate in the Persona. They can;t even install the meter cluster properly at the centre. Mine is off center.

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im planning to install tint for my car...

my need is to reduce the "silau".. so my priority is my windcreen...

i saw last time price range from RM1++ to RM1+++.. and airkool it the easiest to get for branded product?

So, any recommendation?
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QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Oct 18 2009, 12:34 PM)
im planning to install tint for my car...

my need is to reduce the "silau".. so my priority is my windcreen...

i saw last time price range from RM1++  to RM1+++.. and airkool it the easiest to get for branded product?

So, any recommendation?
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if u have budget, u may go for V-cool ... Otherwise solar guard also not bad ... coz i'm using now... cheap cheap and not bad ... but don't tint the RM100 ~ RM200 range paper... that one like "tak rasa" 1 ...
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QUOTE(JynoRip @ Oct 18 2009, 04:35 PM)
if u have budget, u may go for V-cool ... Otherwise solar guard also not bad ... coz i'm using now... cheap cheap and not bad ... but don't tint the RM100 ~ RM200 range paper... that one like "tak rasa" 1 ...
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budget? rm500 or less i think... ok or not, i just tint for my driving purpose, i cant wear sunglass all the time.. "rimas...rimas" hehe tongue.gif


is it weird?, bcoz i heard ppl start put on tint with door glasses first, then baru la go for windscreen and backlite...

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QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Oct 18 2009, 06:03 PM)
budget? rm500 or less i think... ok or not, i just tint for my driving purpose, i cant wear sunglass all the time.. "rimas...rimas" hehe tongue.gif
is it weird?, bcoz i heard ppl start put on tint with door glasses first, then baru la go for windscreen and backlite...
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windscreen only i think already cost around RM500 ~ RM600 .. this is the price for V-cool. pricelist from terengganu, don't know kl can get how much . must be cheaper then this ...
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Just now i went to used car dealer to ask for trade, my 2years old Sona resale value is not up to my expectation .... cry.gif

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Oct 18 2009, 02:36 AM)
Manual gear oil no need to change

Yes, free labour for 1k, 5k + 19k servies, provided you don't fall for their famous scams like X1R, magnecrap, car engine wash.

Yes, they always overfill the engine oil.  Make sure you pour out a bit, say 0.5 lt then give the remainder for them to fill.  Do not trust them not to overfill.  Overfilling can damage your engine.


Added on October 18, 2009, 2:37 am
100% NO!

Nothing is accurate in the Persona.  They can;t even install the meter cluster properly at the centre.  Mine is off center.
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Yea same here... meter cluster is off centre. but i dun bother to have it readjusted... cuz worried later got sound.


Added on October 19, 2009, 9:09 amSo.... about the right hand front "kok" noise when turning... anybody have answers to this?

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Just now i went to used car dealer to ask for trade, my 2years old Sona resale value is not up to my expectation .... cry.gif
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How much they offered you, and how many years or months your Sona is? I also interest to know.
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I only hear the kok sound when i'm going over a hump with steering to the right (haven't tried left) while going down into underground carpark. If it's the same noise I would assume it gotta do with something near the suspension?

BTW since there are so many Proton users here, why not consolodate a list of service centres & their reviews?



QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 19 2009, 09:08 AM)

Added on October 19, 2009, 9:09 amSo.... about the right hand front "kok" noise when turning... anybody have answers to this?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 19 2009, 09:20 AM)
I only hear the kok sound when i'm going over a hump with steering to the right (haven't tried left) while going down into underground carpark. If it's the same noise I would assume it gotta do with something near the suspension?

BTW since there are so many Proton users here, why not consolodate a list of service centres & their reviews?
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same as me...i think this is common issue happen on persona...
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I'm selling my saga and getting a new M-line Genetic Silver.. Just wanted to ask anyone know where to find SE bodykit in Penang and how much will it costs? Is there any legal black tint.. any good recommendations??
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 19 2009, 09:08 AM)
Yea same here... meter cluster is off centre. but i dun bother to have it readjusted... cuz worried later got sound.


Added on October 19, 2009, 9:09 amSo.... about the right hand front "kok" noise when turning... anybody have answers to this?
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I think no one has any concrete answers. My klunking sound was "fixed" 2 months back but only resulted in a 50% reduction in volume and frequency of the noise.

The klunking sound is Proton's way of saying thanks for your continuing support and reminding you to keep buying Proton.



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Anybody modded their meter cluster light to BLUE COLOR like Satria Neo? Just need to change the bulb color right?
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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 19 2009, 09:09 AM)
How much they offered you, and how many years or months your Sona is? I also interest to know.
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Fyi.
2years old HL(A) worth rm40k, mline rm35.xk..bline(A) around rm33k.

My 2years Bline(a) has some goodies pack with it, slightly higher trade being offered..but decided not to let go liao...
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 5 2009, 05:40 PM)
Steps to install PaPaGO X3:

1. Download software from HERE.

2. Download SETTING_EN from HERE.

3. Download patch from HERE.

4. Extract and copy the PaPaGO folder to SDMMC.

5. Replace the extracted SETTING_EN with the existing one in 'Organic > EN (English)'

6. Extract the patch, copy it to the PaPaGO folder and launch the program by using the patch.

For latest map updates, you may visit malfreemaps.
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Hi Roiss, I was not able to download the item 2 & item 3. Are these 2files very big size? Can you email to me?
I hit this error when click on your links -->
This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.....

I've tried to install garmin to my A800, very sad to say that after the screen shown the garmin logo, then it just hanging there.
Then I format my SD card to try for 2nd & 3rd time. Now my original lakotoo software totally cannot on. It just shown me the Proton Logo, and again it hang there cry.gif Anyway to recover it?
I did backup all the files from the SD card, format, and copy back the files to SD card, now I cannot get back my orignal GPS. icon_question.gif cry.gif
So, my last chance is to try this Papago x3. Unfortunely, I'm not able to download the item 2 & 3, pls pls.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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Hi Roiss, I was not able to download the item 2 & item 3. Are these 2files very big size? Can you email to me?
I hit this error when click on your links -->
This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.....

I've tried to install garmin to my A800, very sad to say that after the screen shown the garmin logo, then it just hanging there.
Then I format my SD card to try for 2nd & 3rd time. Now my original lakotoo software totally cannot on. It just shown me the Proton Logo, and again it hang there  cry.gif  Anyway to recover it?
I did backup all the files from the SD card, format, and copy back the files to SD card, now I cannot get back my orignal GPS.  icon_question.gif  cry.gif
So, my last chance is to try this Papago x3. Unfortunely, I'm not able to download the item 2 & 3, pls pls....  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Sorry, the link is broken.. Reuploaded. BTW, mine is still working fine with the original map. hmm.gif

Setting_EN Click HERE

Navi74800.exe Click HERE

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Anyone know what is this that highlighted in red ?

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today remove the front strut bar...cause kinda annoying when each time need to remove the bar in order to change the airfilter... laugh.gif so just remove it...and after removal, i feel the car not so stable.... sweat.gif dunno physiological effect or real... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cakarsakti @ Oct 18 2009, 01:34 PM)
im planning to install tint for my car...

my need is to reduce the "silau".. so my priority is my windcreen...

i saw last time price range from RM1++  to RM1+++.. and airkool it the easiest to get for branded product?

So, any recommendation?
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my persona tinted by TINTMASTER which is about RM700++...the outcome was AWESOME! thumbup.gif

whats ur budget bro?.....sometimes u have to be balance between BUDGET & PREFERENCE...bcoz its a long-time journey...7-9yrs...

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charcoal canister, every campro has it..the function is like when engine is stop, waste petrol go into this.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 19 2009, 09:20 AM)
I only hear the kok sound when i'm going over a hump with steering to the right (haven't tried left) while going down into underground carpark. If it's the same noise I would assume it gotta do with something near the suspension?

BTW since there are so many Proton users here, why not consolodate a list of service centres & their reviews?
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I believe this issue faced by most of the Persona owner who bought the car before May 2009. My car also facing metal klonking sound when turn to the right hand side on an uneven road, you won't get the sound if you turn left, unless the hole is big or the road is very uneven.

I asked the Cheras SC on my first 2 services, their department head told me, it was caused by the metal power steering hose, can't be solved, he said no solution from Proton Headquarter. Then on my 3rd service, I took my car to Damansara 3S SC, it took them 2 days to check the issue, then result is they said it was caused by the air condition component and no solution from Proton Technical Headquarter, but they already knew the issue and looking to solve this.... 2 different SC told me different cause of problem, I wonder if I take to their technical headquarter at Bukit Kemuning, don't know what reason they will give this time...

My Persona SE bought in January 2009, and until now already 9 month, still no solution!!! I am now really regret to support Proton again....

I am looking to see if there is anyway that we can take legal action to sue Proton? This is a new car, not used car, if is used car, I understand, but this is a NEW car, but acting like old car....

Or else if there are people who fixed this problem... PLEASE PLEASE share your solution... We can't rely on Proton SC, now only can seek from other people help...

By the way, my friend bought Persona SE at October, so far he don't have this issue... I believe they solve for new car, but don't care about existing owner who has the problem...

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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 20 2009, 08:56 AM)
I believe this issue faced by most of the Persona owner who bought the car before May 2009. My car also facing metal klonking sound when turn to the right hand side on an uneven road, you won't get the sound if you turn left, unless the hole is big or the road is very uneven.

I asked the Cheras SC on my first 2 services, their department head told me, it was caused by the metal power steering hose, can't be solved, he said no solution from Proton Headquarter. Then on my 3rd service, I took my car to Damansara 3S SC, it took them 2 days to check the issue, then result is they said it was caused by the air condition component and no solution from Proton Technical Headquarter, but they already knew the issue and looking to solve this.... 2 different SC told me different cause of problem, I wonder if I take to their technical headquarter at Bukit Kemuning, don't know what reason they will give this time...

My Persona SE bought in January 2009, and until now already 9 month, still no solution!!! I am now really regret to support Proton again....

I am looking to see if there is anyway that we can take legal action to sue Proton? This is a new car, not used car, if is used car, I understand, but this is a NEW car, but acting like old car....

Or else if there are people who fixed this problem... PLEASE PLEASE share your solution... We can't rely on Proton SC, now only can seek from other people help...

By the way, my friend bought Persona SE at October, so far he don't have this issue... I believe they solve for new car, but don't care about existing owner who has the problem...
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QUOTE(KKW @ Sep 13 2009, 12:13 AM)
same with mine also..
need press few time only can work  sweat.gif
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Added on October 20, 2009, 10:15 am
QUOTE(loong2020 @ Sep 13 2009, 11:24 AM)
mine is non-iafm automatic also.......most of the time will touch 190km with no dropping gear and hard revving...just smoothly pressing the pedal.....when wanna go topspeed, just turn off aircond...it give less stress on the engine and thus, it will give u more power.....if u on aircond, it will reach 190km or (195km) (tested on klia with 3people in the car) but slower compare to OFF completely..... brows.gif  brows.gif


Added on September 13, 2009, 11:29 am
nod.gif  nod.gif .....even at 180/190km+++...the steering still did not vibrate...but stability definately persona much better than blm but neo,gen2 is much better than persona..so persona is in between.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 20 2009, 08:56 AM)
I believe this issue faced by most of the Persona owner who bought the car before May 2009. My car also facing metal klonking sound when turn to the right hand side on an uneven road, you won't get the sound if you turn left, unless the hole is big or the road is very uneven.

I asked the Cheras SC on my first 2 services, their department head told me, it was caused by the metal power steering hose, can't be solved, he said no solution from Proton Headquarter. Then on my 3rd service, I took my car to Damansara 3S SC, it took them 2 days to check the issue, then result is they said it was caused by the air condition component and no solution from Proton Technical Headquarter, but they already knew the issue and looking to solve this.... 2 different SC told me different cause of problem, I wonder if I take to their technical headquarter at Bukit Kemuning, don't know what reason they will give this time...

My Persona SE bought in January 2009, and until now already 9 month, still no solution!!! I am now really regret to support Proton again....

I am looking to see if there is anyway that we can take legal action to sue Proton? This is a new car, not used car, if is used car, I understand, but this is a NEW car, but acting like old car....

Or else if there are people who fixed this problem... PLEASE PLEASE share your solution... We can't rely on Proton SC, now only can seek from other people help...

By the way, my friend bought Persona SE at October, so far he don't have this issue... I believe they solve for new car, but don't care about existing owner who has the problem...
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my blm gt that klong klong sound too when turn right and move on uneven road...it sounds like absorber or steering rack loosen like that...
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 19 2009, 07:14 PM)
Sorry, the link is broken.. Reuploaded.  BTW, mine is still working fine with the original map.  hmm.gif

Setting_EN Click HERE

Navi74800.exe Click HERE
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Hi hi Roiss, now i able to load my garmin but I cant get the GPS signal.
What type of GPS i need to select?
? Use GPS intermediate driver? or Use serial GPS com0 ? com2? com3?
Pls advise ya smile.gif
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QUOTE(Josh_M @ Oct 20 2009, 10:10 AM)
had the same prob.. sent it to my SC at Bandar Baru Klang.. Problem Solved .. (connector loose) rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif


Added on October 20, 2009, 10:15 am
I have done 195 Km on the way to PD. I started with one BLM also .. it was hard to overtake the guy at first after a while a few emergancy brakes the BLM was no where near..  but i have to say persona is very stable but then the brakes sometimes feels a bit spongy..  flex.gif
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charcoal canister, every campro has it..the function is like when engine is stop, waste petrol go into this.
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It's an automotive filter in which activated carbon has been placed so that gas tank fuel vapors, which have accumulated when the vehicle is not running, are trapped in the filter.

•When the engine is running, hot air is forced into the filter and push out the vapors into the engine.
•In this way, pollution is reduced and conservation of the fuel is maintained.
•Also called activated charcoal trap or charcoal canister.
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wah,,,, like this also can???

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QUOTE(vpam5221 @ Oct 20 2009, 12:37 PM)
wah,,,, like this also can???

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waaaa....
i've c one using waja base...
but this is the 1st time seen the gen2 base... haha...
malaysian a full of creative people... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif flex.gif thumbup.gif

b.t.w..
where u seen it..?
kinda still in the bengkel rite...?
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QUOTE(vpam5221 @ Oct 20 2009, 12:37 PM)
wah,,,, like this also can???

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hahahaha !! Bravo @@@ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 20 2009, 11:39 AM)
Hi hi Roiss, now i able to load my garmin but I cant get the GPS signal.
What type of GPS i need to select?
? Use GPS intermediate driver? or Use serial GPS com0 ? com2? com3?
Pls advise ya smile.gif
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Serial GPS COM 7 icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Oct 20 2009, 08:56 AM)
I believe this issue faced by most of the Persona owner who bought the car before May 2009. My car also facing metal klonking sound when turn to the right hand side on an uneven road, you won't get the sound if you turn left, unless the hole is big or the road is very uneven.

I asked the Cheras SC on my first 2 services, their department head told me, it was caused by the metal power steering hose, can't be solved, he said no solution from Proton Headquarter. Then on my 3rd service, I took my car to Damansara 3S SC, it took them 2 days to check the issue, then result is they said it was caused by the air condition component and no solution from Proton Technical Headquarter, but they already knew the issue and looking to solve this.... 2 different SC told me different cause of problem, I wonder if I take to their technical headquarter at Bukit Kemuning, don't know what reason they will give this time...

My Persona SE bought in January 2009, and until now already 9 month, still no solution!!! I am now really regret to support Proton again....

I am looking to see if there is anyway that we can take legal action to sue Proton? This is a new car, not used car, if is used car, I understand, but this is a NEW car, but acting like old car....

Or else if there are people who fixed this problem... PLEASE PLEASE share your solution... We can't rely on Proton SC, now only can seek from other people help...

By the way, my friend bought Persona SE at October, so far he don't have this issue... I believe they solve for new car, but don't care about existing owner who has the problem...
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Based on replies... seems like nobody have any concrete answers.... i am also looking for the source of the sound myself during my free time. Again, i appeal to those who have solutions... please voice up.

Side note: Those driving IAFM models take note. The engine breather hose on the right side (you facing the engine). This hose apparently will rub badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder. Mine less than 3k mileage already got cut quite badly on its surface of the rubber hose. I have DIY padded it to avoid further damages.


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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 20 2009, 03:53 PM)
Serial GPS COM 7  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hah.. com 7?? I only have com0, com2 & com3, how to get com7 ??
Com 0 : Com: 0 port splitter
Com 2 : Serial Cable (2pin) on CO
Com 3 : RDS on com3
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 20 2009, 05:22 PM)
hah.. com 7?? I only have com0, com2 & com3, how to get com7 ??
Com 0 : Com: 0 port splitter
Com 2 : Serial Cable (2pin) on CO
Com 3 : RDS on com3
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Opps! Forgotten yours is A800. My fault. tongue.gif I'm not sure which port is A800 using. You try it one by one until you get the 'Scanning Attached' done. If the right COM port is selected. You will see a number of satellites in the bar graph and also the orbit else wrong COM port. Tell me if it works. smile.gif
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Maybe u can have someone stand outside and try to hear where the sound coming from when turn right on uneven surface.

Can post pic about the hose the will rub against throttle body wiring holder? How you DIY it? I'm going for 1st maintenance can get SC to DIY?

Can someone press their rear boot and see if the metal will sink in when you press it? Mine is solid on the left part but right part the metal sink in when i apply abit of pressure.

What is the range of our alarm sensor? Seems I need to be really close to unlock the doors.

Also is the pickup slower than kelisa? Seems I always slower than those Saga Taxi & Kelisa on 1st gear.


QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
Side note: Those driving IAFM models take note. The engine breather hose on the right side (you facing the engine). This hose apparently will rub badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder. Mine less than 3k mileage already got cut quite badly on its surface of the rubber hose. I have DIY padded it to avoid further damages.
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Anybody installed aftermarket alarms for their Persona? Like those with remote start and remote trunk release? Will our immobilizer work after that?
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QUOTE(vpam5221 @ Oct 20 2009, 12:37 PM)
wah,,,, like this also can???

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doh.gif why dun wait for the new waja... rumors has it that it was based on the latest lancer drool.gif
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 3 2009, 01:40 PM)
No luck. Sigh..  shakehead.gif Right now it needs a program to turn it off.
Anyway, I managed to install PapaGO X3 on my device. It works like a charm!  rclxms.gif  What is the resolution of your A800? The version I'm using only supports 480 x 272.
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Hi, do you know whether it works with A1000? Thanks.
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Hi, do you know whether it works with A1000? Thanks.
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Yupe, it works on A1000.

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Yupe, it works on A1000.
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Thanks.
1. When you said copy to SDMMC to you mean the root folder of SD Card or SDMMC folder of SD Card?
2. Do we need to change any of the file to point to this? Default is pointing to Guider folder.

Having tried GMXT & PaPaGO X3 which would you recommend base on bugs, performance, accuracy etc...

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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 20 2009, 05:53 PM)
Opps! Forgotten yours is A800. My fault.  tongue.gif  I'm not sure which port is A800 using. You try it one by one until you get the 'Scanning Attached' done. If the right COM port is selected. You will see a number of satellites in the bar graph and also the orbit else wrong COM port. Tell me if it works.  smile.gif
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I want to pengsan rclxub.gif
Last nite I able to use the garmin to navigate, but there was no voice. So I format the SD card and repeat the installation steps again.
Now again Garmin hang when it starts. Que.exe got problem. I really want to vomic & pengsan rclxub.gif
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oh ! PROTON PERSONA .....not bad shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
Based on replies... seems like nobody have any concrete answers.... i am also looking for the source of the sound myself during my free time. Again, i appeal to those who have solutions... please voice up.

Side note: Those driving IAFM models take note. The engine breather hose on the right side (you facing the engine). This hose apparently will rub badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder. Mine less than 3k mileage already got cut quite badly on its surface of the rubber hose. I have DIY padded it to avoid further damages.
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YES, Can someone PLEASE post a pic on the hose that rubs badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder?
I checked mine but didn't see any...
Thanks.
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 21 2009, 10:01 AM)
I want to pengsan  rclxub.gif 
Last nite I able to use the garmin to navigate, but there was no voice. So I format the SD card and repeat the installation steps again.
Now again Garmin hang when it starts. Que.exe got problem. I really want to vomic & pengsan  rclxub.gif
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Yeah Yeah... icon_idea.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Finally my garmin is working rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
Thanks to Roiss for your sharing.

To run Garmin on A800, I have to manually run the below items before run garmin.exe
1) Manually turn on port splitter.exe
2) Manually execute taskbarhide.exe
3) Run Garmin.exe
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YES, Can someone PLEASE post a pic on the hose that rubs badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder?
I checked mine but didn't see any...
Thanks.
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Ok...i'll get back to you on the photos later on. Need to take it during day time, easier to see. Please remind me if i didn't come back to you by latest end of this week. hehee...
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QUOTE(rckh @ Oct 20 2009, 12:28 PM)
It's an automotive filter in which activated carbon has been placed so that gas tank fuel vapors, which have accumulated when the vehicle is not running, are trapped in the filter.

•When the engine is running, hot air is forced into the filter and push out the vapors into the engine.
•In this way, pollution is reduced and conservation of the fuel is maintained.
•Also called activated charcoal trap or charcoal canister.
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very detail explanation, thanks.
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i cant install garmin on a900
got error : assert bmp blah blah blah..

sad.gif(

i just follow the instruction given, still got an error

am i missing something..
is there any noob step not included on the step given...sad.gif

me so noob using GPS..

kindly help me..
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QUOTE(ryujimitsui @ Oct 21 2009, 03:15 PM)
i cant install garmin on a900
got error : assert bmp blah blah blah..

sad.gif(

i just follow the instruction given, still got an error

am i missing something..
is there any noob step not included on the step given...sad.gif

me so noob using GPS..

kindly help me..
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Hi ryujimitsui, myself took about 3 days only gao tim the garmin installation.
The instruction from Roiss quite clear. Perhaps you need to override the APPS folder, voice folder, RunGMXT folder for few times.


Added on October 21, 2009, 3:50 pmOh ya.. Roiss, are you using Garmin or Papago now??
Did you copy POI into the garmin folder?
I did so. I have a copy from my mobile, I try it as well in A800, it works great. And the map I am using now is dated 12 Oct 2009 smile.gif
If you need one, I may upload to share it with you smile.gif

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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 21 2009, 03:47 PM)
Hi ryujimitsui, myself took about 3 days only gao tim the garmin installation.
The instruction from Roiss quite clear. Perhaps you need to override the APPS folder, voice folder, RunGMXT folder for few times.


Added on October 21, 2009, 3:50 pmOh ya.. Roiss, are you using Garmin or Papago now??
Did you copy POI into the garmin folder?
I did so. I have a copy from my mobile, I try it as well in A800, it works great. And the map I am using now is dated 12 Oct 2009 smile.gif
If you need one, I may upload to share it with you smile.gif
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For A900 user, i wouldn't recommended Garmin.. bcoz it so slow and keep on hang while u navigate..
...due to A900 lack of RAM..
i don't know about a800 cz i hv no xperience in it.. hmm.gif

on the other hand, PAPAGO is better... it work very smoothly
+ it have 3D building... rclxms.gif

look for roiss instruction in installing PAPAGO X3 in earlier page..it may help thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 5 2009, 05:40 PM)
Steps to install PaPaGO X3:

1. Download software from HERE.

2. Download SETTING_EN from HERE.

3. Download patch from HERE.

4. Extract and copy the PaPaGO folder to SDMMC.

5. Replace the extracted SETTING_EN with the existing one in 'Organic > EN (English)'

6. Extract the patch, copy it to the PaPaGO folder and launch the program by using the patch.

For latest map updates, you may visit malfreemaps.
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 21 2009, 03:47 PM)
Hi ryujimitsui, myself took about 3 days only gao tim the garmin installation.
The instruction from Roiss quite clear. Perhaps you need to override the APPS folder, voice folder, RunGMXT folder for few times.


Added on October 21, 2009, 3:50 pmOh ya.. Roiss, are you using Garmin or Papago now??
Did you copy POI into the garmin folder?
I did so. I have a copy from my mobile, I try it as well in A800, it works great. And the map I am using now is dated 12 Oct 2009 smile.gif
If you need one, I may upload to share it with you smile.gif
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Yeah, I've the POI copied into the Garmin folder.. Nice! biggrin.gif (Night markets, TnG, Speedcam... bla bla bla) thumbup.gif
Anyway, is your Garmin lagging on A800? Mine refresh very slowly.. I'm only using 2D view for navigation.. tongue.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 6:39 pm
QUOTE(csho @ Oct 21 2009, 08:08 AM)
Thanks.
1. When you said copy to SDMMC to you mean the root folder of SD Card or SDMMC folder of SD Card?
2. Do we need to change any of the file to point to this? Default is pointing to Guider folder.

Having tried GMXT & PaPaGO X3 which would you recommend base on bugs, performance, accuracy etc...
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1. Yes, root folder.
2. You just need to rename 'ceDesktop' to 'dp_Guider' and replace it.

Both are good in performance and accuracy, it's just the matter of insufficiency in memory for the Garmin to perform properly. So, I'll recommend you PaPaGO X3 as it runs smoothly, moreover it has 3D buildings + junction view. thumbup.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 6:40 pm
QUOTE(ryujimitsui @ Oct 21 2009, 03:15 PM)
i cant install garmin on a900
got error : assert bmp blah blah blah..
i just follow the instruction given, still got an error
am i missing something..
is there any noob step not included on the step given...sad.gif
me so noob using GPS..
kindly help me..
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What error did you encounter?

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just get my persona today, btw how to switch the display on the meter? how to change the clock display, KM/L & KM left before fuel indicator light up?should they any manual book come with? i cant find any manual which teach me those thing, thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(alt3ch @ Oct 22 2009, 12:40 AM)
just get my persona today, btw how to switch the display on the meter? how to change the clock display, KM/L & KM left before fuel indicator light up?should they any manual book come with? i cant find any manual which teach me those thing, thanks in advance.
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check ur manual my fren....patiently the answers will come out... brows.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 11:46 pmanyone know how much does PROTON SC's labour charge for 1k, 5k, 10k service....?
since now i left my 10k voucher that have to used for my 3rd service...so i just want to know the price of labour charge...otherwise better skip the 10k voucher & go service at 3rd party center??

care to comment anyone?? shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(krk24 @ Oct 22 2009, 12:44 AM)
check ur manual my fren....patiently the answers will come out... brows.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 11:46 pmanyone know how much does PROTON SC's labour charge for 1k, 5k, 10k service....?
since now i left my 10k voucher that have to used for my 3rd service...so i just want to know the price of labour charge...otherwise better skip the 10k voucher & go service at 3rd party center??

care to comment anyone?? shakehead.gif
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I think they didnt give me the manual book, i only have the radio manual, safe tinted, master guard & gps. Cant find any manual about that...
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QUOTE(alt3ch @ Oct 22 2009, 12:17 AM)
I think they didnt give me the manual book, i only have the radio manual, safe tinted, master guard & gps. Cant find any manual about that...
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the things you stated is indeed not the manual book. go back and ask for it.
the manual book is quite comprehensive and it has answers to all the questions you raised earlier.
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QUOTE(keeplwk @ Oct 20 2009, 10:02 AM)
i bought on sept 2009..my car hav this issue..tat mean ur fren are lucky...or the problem will coming soonnnn... brows.gif
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Ya, probably he is one of the lucky guy, or maybe he think that is normal one. Haha...


QUOTE(smokey @ Oct 20 2009, 10:39 AM)
my blm gt that klong klong sound too when turn right and move on uneven road...it sounds like absorber or steering rack loosen like that...
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Yes, this sound happened to most of the Persona and Saga as I heard from the technician.

QUOTE(2fast2furious @ Oct 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
Based on replies... seems like nobody have any concrete answers.... i am also looking for the source of the sound myself during my free time. Again, i appeal to those who have solutions... please voice up.

Side note: Those driving IAFM models take note. The engine breather hose on the right side (you facing the engine). This hose apparently will rub badly against the throttle body electrical wiring plastic holder. Mine less than 3k mileage already got cut quite badly on its surface of the rubber hose. I have DIY padded it to avoid further damages.
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How to say is IAFM model? My Persona SE was out on January, is that IAFM model? As I knew, shouldn't be.
There are actually a lot of people have different kind of solution, but never confirm it is work perfectly. Some said using heat insulation rubber to wrap up the power steering metal hose, then the sound will gone. But after listened to the technician at Damansara S3 SC, they said is because of the air cond component pulak... I also dunno who to trust...
I wish is there any Proton SC HQ technician here that can help??? Really hopeless now...
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QUOTE(roiss @ Oct 21 2009, 06:08 PM)
Yeah, I've the POI copied into the Garmin folder.. Nice!  biggrin.gif  (Night markets, TnG, Speedcam... bla bla bla)  thumbup.gif
Anyway, is your Garmin lagging on A800? Mine refresh very slowly.. I'm only using 2D view for navigation..  tongue.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 6:39 pm
1. Yes, root folder.
2. You just need to rename 'ceDesktop' to 'dp_Guider' and replace it.

Both are good in performance and accuracy, it's just the matter of insufficiency in memory for the Garmin to perform properly. So, I'll recommend you PaPaGO X3 as it runs smoothly, moreover it has 3D buildings + junction view. thumbup.gif


Added on October 21, 2009, 6:40 pm
What error did you encounter?
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sorry noob question here..is there any way to automatically run papago each tiime startup?
can we just remove the original one..and fully replace it with papago?

huhu
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i just accidently ram my gate with rear bumper impresively no scratch!!!! i guest the reverse sensor sound to soft... heavy rain too..

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QUOTE(ryujimitsui @ Oct 22 2009, 01:42 AM)
sorry noob question here..is there any way to automatically run papago each tiime startup?
can we just remove the original one..and fully replace it with papago?

huhu
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r u currently goin into cedesktop, browse to papago folder & launch navi74800? if so yes u can bypass cedesktop thumbup.gif but if u wan 2 go straight into ppg upon switching on, still researching... sweat.gif


Added on October 22, 2009, 10:38 am
QUOTE(roiss @ Sep 30 2009, 01:18 AM)
Some knowns bugs:   icon_question.gif
1. Settings of Garmin will restore to default after resetting. (Right now I only leave it in Standby mode to prevent this)
2. Volume of the device will increase after configuring the backlight in Garmin. (Uncheck all the checkboxes regarding to backlight setting. Use the original setting of the unit.)
3. The taskbar of Windows CE cannot be shown properly..  hmm.gif
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Hi,
Garmin
1. Did you manage to workaround the bugs above?
2. Anyway to change keyboard layout to QWERTY?
3. Manage once to launch Garmin directly when pressing the Navigation key but can't seems to now.
PaPaGO
1. How to get the comprehensive POIs like Garmin? Just download from MalFreeMaps?
2. Is there a way to only mute 'tab'/'touch' but not the voice?


Added on October 22, 2009, 10:47 am
QUOTE(bryanwong3 @ Oct 19 2009, 11:13 AM)
I'm selling my saga and getting a new M-line Genetic Silver.. Just wanted to ask anyone know where to find SE bodykit in Penang and how much will it costs? Is there any legal black tint.. any good recommendations??
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r u currently goin into cedesktop, browse to papago folder & launch navi74800? if so yes u can bypass cedesktop  thumbup.gif but if u wan 2 go straight into ppg upon switching on, still researching... sweat.gif


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1. Did you manage to workaround the bugs above?
2. Anyway to change keyboard layout to QWERTY?
3. Manage once to launch Garmin directly when pressing the Navigation key but can't seems to now.
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2. Is there a way to only mute 'tab'/'touch' but not the voice?


Added on October 22, 2009, 10:47 am
i got mine done (not persona but they do all sorts) @ brick kiln road. very good.
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yes im goin to cedesktop everytime startup? how to by pass cedesktop?

if we download malfreemaps..which file need to be replace in GPS console to make the map updated?
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done my 1st service this morning..totol RM106.70.. free oil filter n free 1 time car wash..


Added on October 22, 2009, 11:15 amdone my 1st service this morning..totol RM106.70.. free oil filter n free 1 time car wash..

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QUOTE(csho @ Oct 22 2009, 09:55 AM)
r u currently goin into cedesktop, browse to papago folder & launch navi74800? if so yes u can bypass cedesktop  thumbup.gif but if u wan 2 go straight into ppg upon switching on, still researching... sweat.gif


Added on October 22, 2009, 10:38 am
Hi,
Garmin
1. Did you manage to workaround the bugs above?
2. Anyway to change keyboard layout to QWERTY?
3. Manage once to launch Garmin directly when pressing the Navigation key but can't seems to now.
PaPaGO
1. How to get the comprehensive POIs like Garmin? Just download from MalFreeMaps?
2. Is there a way to only mute 'tab'/'touch' but not the voice?


Added on October 22, 2009, 10:47 am
i got mine done (not persona but they do all sorts) @ brick kiln road. very good.
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Jalan Gudwara?? Changed name d that road. What's the shop name? I got a friend recommended me to go there oso. What material they use? Fibre or PU? rivet or nuts? most importantly how much?
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yes im goin to cedesktop everytime startup? how to by pass cedesktop?

if we download malfreemaps..which file need to be replace in GPS console to make the map updated?
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give me some time. i'm trying to re-package the whole thing into 1 single downloadable file so it's much easier for installation. cool2.gif


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QUOTE(bryanwong3 @ Oct 22 2009, 11:20 AM)
Jalan Gudwara?? Changed name d that road. What's the shop name? I got a friend recommended me to go there oso. What material they use? Fibre or PU? rivet or nuts? most importantly how much?
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Persona SE only has fiber. What I understand is you need to leave the car for spray paint after installation. Approximately RM990. Mine PU was RM12xx. Jack 012-409 6052.

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give me some time. i'm trying to re-package the whole thing into 1 single downloadable file so it's much easier for installation.  cool2.gif


Added on October 22, 2009, 12:18 pm
Persona SE only has fiber. What I understand is you need to leave the car for spray paint after installation. Approximately RM990. Mine PU was RM12xx. Jack 012-409 6052.
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can get back on the same day or how?
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yes im goin to cedesktop everytime startup? how to by pass cedesktop?

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Garmin folder. Same roof as Apps, Eula, Voice & etc
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It's best you call the shop. I'm only a customer. To get good paint job better not hurry. Good Luck.
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QUOTE(nofear1979 @ Oct 22 2009, 11:16 PM)
Garmin folder. Same roof as Apps, Eula, Voice & etc
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It's for PPG, not Garmin. For PPG what I do is create a folder within PaPaGO\Maps\ called MFMyymmdd & copy all the 27 files in there.

I should be able to get the re-packaging ready this weekend with the latest MFM maps & tapping on navigation will launch PPG directly. Still no luck to launch PPG upon startup of GPS but this is much better than navigating through CEDesktop furthermore can use the other utilities. thumbup.gif

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It's best you call the shop. I'm only a customer. To get good paint job better not hurry. Good Luck.
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my car juz 3 weeks old...after installed the bodykit will the warranty void???
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my car juz 3 weeks old...after installed the bodykit will the warranty void???
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i got mine done when it was 2 days old. i presume minor cosmetic add-on should be ok (i hope).

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i got mine done when it was 2 days old. i presume minor cosmetic add-on should be ok (i hope).
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can u post some pic to c ??tks
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can u post some pic to c ??tks
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mine is exora, not persona. i'm afraid i'll get chased away if i were to post exora pics here unless u guys (& gals) agree. hop over 2 exora forum where i'll post the pics.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...t=999892&st=260

came here to research on gps & i dun mind sharing gps info as promised in my previous post. in fact i wanted 2 buy persona before ending up with exora.

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hah.. com 7?? I only have com0, com2 & com3, how to get com7 ??
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a question before that..what resolution u get for papago X3 ... anyway u can try 29600
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Sorry if this is a noob question but how do I connect my ipod thru aux to the standard HU? I need to buy an aux cable specifically for blaupunkt or any aux connector would suffice? Thanks!
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guys.....i am new here....i got a problem on my persona !! my letf side carpet there store water !!!! when rain only got !! argh !! izzit door rubber problem or what ??? take it to SC can 9 dim ?
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my persona tinted by TINTMASTER which is about RM700++...the outcome was AWESOME!  thumbup.gif

whats ur budget bro?.....sometimes u have to be balance between BUDGET & PREFERENCE...bcoz its a long-time journey...7-9yrs...
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Sorry if this is a noob question but how do I connect my ipod thru aux to the standard HU? I need to buy an aux cable specifically for blaupunkt or any aux connector would suffice? Thanks!
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thr's an aux connector for the blaupunkt.. someone selling it in garage sales not too long time ago...

QUOTE(momovirus @ Oct 25 2009, 04:37 AM)
guys.....i am new here....i got a problem on my persona !! my letf side carpet there store water !!!! when rain only got !! argh !! izzit door rubber problem or what ??? take it to SC can 9 dim ?
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if ur car in warranty, u can take it to sc to rectify the prob..
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hi i'm planning to get a persona se very soon.

may i know what's the common problem for persona and what should i check when i receive my new car to makesure it's problem free?

i heard the sales man said the persona se already pre-installed with tinted film. is it good enough or is it possible for me to get it tinted with other branded film?

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Installation guide for PaPaGO X3 on Lokatoo A1000 GPS

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yes im goin to cedesktop everytime startup? how to by pass cedesktop?

if we download malfreemaps..which file need to be replace in GPS console to make the map updated?
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a question before that..what resolution u get for papago X3 ... anyway u can try 29600
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Installation guide for PaPaGO X3 on Lokatoo A1000 GPS
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Oct 25 2009, 12:40 PM)
hi i'm planning to get a persona se very soon.

may i know what's the common problem for persona and what should i check when i receive my new car to makesure it's problem free?

i heard the sales man said the persona se already pre-installed with tinted film. is it good enough or is it possible for me to get it tinted with other branded film?
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I drive a Red SE. Common problems:

1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster

As for the tinted film - its a joke! That kind of tinted film you can do outside for only RM150 whole car! Useless under the sun! Got it stripped off and retinted for RM1100. Best money I ever spent.




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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:20 PM)
I drive a Red SE.  Common problems:

1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster

As for the tinted film - its a joke!  That kind of tinted film you can do outside for only RM150 whole car!  Useless under the sun!  Got it stripped off and retinted for RM1100.  Best money I ever spent.
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is it those problems exist on other persona se car as well or just a manufacturing defect on your car only ? the problem you mentioned sound scary to me
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:39 PM)
is it those problems exist on other persona se car as well or just a manufacturing defect on your car only ? the problem you mentioned sound scary to me
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It exists on the whole range of Persona models, not just the SE.

While the squeaky noise at the back is solvable with electrician's black tape, the famous persona klunking noise is still a great mystery to all of us and is considered unsolvable. It is a built-in design fault I believe.

Some other owners have more problems than me.

And don't forget the infamous Proton SCammers. Be very very careful of them!




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for the clunking sound when turning right/left....could it be the fog lamps holder as i check the holder is in metal and very close to the car chassis metal....so when we turning, the holder will shake and end up touching the chassis which will resulted as metal noise.... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:51 PM)
for the clunking sound when turning right/left....could it be the fog lamps holder as i check the holder is in metal and very close to the car chassis metal....so when we turning, the holder will shake and end up touching the chassis which will resulted as metal noise.... icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster


for the rattling aircon...does is appear even when the aircon is off??my car does hav the ratling sound too..doesn't matter when the aircon is on or off..
but sumtimes the rattling sound sound appear...anyone know wats wrong?

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:53 PM)
Hmmmm.... loongie....  you might have a point.  I'll go check out my SE.
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laugh.gif ...i wanted to diy myself but no time..maybe ipohmali can provide us some feedback once you get back frm SC... laugh.gif ...maybe..the holder should wrap with cloth (cut in to small pieces) and glue it on the top part or put double sided tape on it.. (the top part)....to see if its the culprit.... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Oct 25 2009, 04:20 PM)
I drive a Red SE.  Common problems:

1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster

As for the tinted film - its a joke!  That kind of tinted film you can do outside for only RM150 whole car!  Useless under the sun!  Got it stripped off and retinted for RM1100.  Best money I ever spent.
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Oh yes I forgot the 'kok" sound coming from the lower arm, whenever one drives over a bump.

Update:

1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster
5 "kok" sound from lower arm


Added on October 25, 2009, 5:20 pm
QUOTE(strannger @ Oct 25 2009, 05:01 PM)
1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster
for the rattling aircon...does is appear even when the aircon is off??my car does hav the ratling sound too..doesn't matter when the aircon is on or off..
but sumtimes the rattling sound sound appear...anyone know wats wrong?
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Yes but more like a buzzing sound. I am not sure if it comes from the aircon or not. It seems to come from the glove box (which is empty) but I could be wrong.


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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 25 2009, 05:05 PM)
laugh.gif ...i wanted to diy myself but no time..maybe ipohmali can provide us some feedback once you get back frm SC... laugh.gif ...maybe..the holder should wrap with cloth (cut in to small pieces) and glue it on the top part or put double sided tape on it.. (the top part)....to see if its the culprit.... cool2.gif
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It'll take me some time too as I need to drive my car up the service ramps that can be found on older gas stations.



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this is my 1st time purchase proton car, is it adviseable to buy the car now or is there big promotion from proton during end of the year ?
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this is my 1st time purchase proton car, is it adviseable to buy the car now or is there big promotion from proton during end of the year ?
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Oct 25 2009, 08:47 AM)
thr's an aux connector for the blaupunkt.. someone selling it in garage sales not too long time ago...
if ur car in warranty, u can take it to sc to rectify the prob..
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ok....well hope come out from SC everything is ok lor~~
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i own a A900 GPS, successfully upgrade to papago x3 base on those step by step guide by sifu here. Anyway, i have this problem. Whenever i switch off the GPS using the back side button, the time & date will be reset. But if sleep mode, the time & date will remain. I have this problem since the 1st day i get. Is this normal?
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i own a A900 GPS, successfully upgrade to papago x3 base on those step by step guide by sifu here. Anyway, i have this problem. Whenever i switch off the GPS using the back side button, the time & date will be reset. But if sleep mode, the time & date will remain. I have this problem since the 1st day i get. Is this normal?
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i think the reset date & time only temporarily, once u enter PAPAGO X3 and the satelite searching is complete, all the time and date will go to the current time & date. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

just hv to wait a while... mine A900 also like that.
dunno if it doesn't work for u.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(d1stant @ Oct 25 2009, 04:19 PM)
have any for A800?
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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Oct 25 2009, 10:00 PM)
i think the reset date & time only temporarily, once u enter PAPAGO X3 and the satelite searching is complete, all the time and date will go to the current time & date.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

just hv to wait a while... mine A900 also like that.
dunno if it doesn't work for u..  hmm.gif
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ya, i notice the date & time will come back after a while but can't recall after when? have been putting on standby only lately.

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QUOTE(strannger @ Oct 25 2009, 05:01 PM)
1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster
for the rattling aircon...does is appear even when the aircon is off??my car does hav the ratling sound too..doesn't matter when the aircon is on or off..
but sumtimes the rattling sound sound appear...anyone know wats wrong?
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i think the rattling sound is because of the aircon vent itself, the adjustor may be loose because mine is, adjust it a little and the rattling sound gone.
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QUOTE(eMeRiTuS @ Oct 25 2009, 11:00 PM)
i think the reset date & time only temporarily, once u enter PAPAGO X3 and the satelite searching is complete, all the time and date will go to the current time & date.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

just hv to wait a while... mine A900 also like that.
dunno if it doesn't work for u..  hmm.gif
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Hmm...may be what you say is true, as i did notice sometime the time go on normal. Will try it again just to double confirm. Anyway, just to ensure that this is not the device faulty else i still able to claim. Papago x3 really work great, even in sarawak. although hardly to use it in sarawak, i guess this device should work great if we bring alone during travelling.


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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Oct 25 2009, 05:20 PM)
I drive a Red SE.  Common problems:

1 Rattling aircon
2 Famous Persona clunking sound
3 Squeaks at the back
4 misaligned meter cluster

As for the tinted film - its a joke!  That kind of tinted film you can do outside for only RM150 whole car!  Useless under the sun!  Got it stripped off and retinted for RM1100.  Best money I ever spent.
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I have my H-line persona less then 1 weeks. At the moment, i have the problem as below:-

1. Ratlling aircond, once i off it then the sound will gone. not sure what cause it.
2. Clunking sound, coming from back side. not sure where the sound from.
3. Plastic sound coming out from both front side door panel if speaker too loud.
4. Back cover of my steering is loose.

Hope no more problem coming, after this.

Btw, do anyone of you tinted your ride without take off the door panel? As my friend advise me not to do so, as the rattling sound will come out after dismantle and install back. But a lot of tinted shop told me have to dismantle, else the tinted wont look nice. Any suggestion?

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i have already booked one.hope everything will be going fine  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Added on October 25, 2009, 11:33 pm
QUOTE(d1stant @ Oct 25 2009, 10:56 PM)
i think the rattling sound is because of the aircon vent itself, the adjustor may be loose because mine is, adjust it a little and the rattling sound gone.
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Nope, tried that.

Here's my hunch for the rattling sound.

There is a loose object inside the blower casing, perhaps a washer? nut? plastic thingy?

Whatever it is, when the blower fan turns the fan blades can and will rub agaist the loose object causing the rattling sound.

However sometimes either the moving air or one of the blades dislodge the loose object. The object makes a loud "CLACK" sound as it strikes the casing wall. There it lodges against another crevice. As you drive, the car movement sometimes also can dislodge the object and if the fan blades strike the object it causes the annoying rattling sound again.

The rattling and CLACK sound is totally random and caused by both the blades as well as car movements. The rattling was already there when I collected my car from the dealer. Didn;t think much of it at that time.

So far I have not opened the casing at Proton SCammer but one of these days I will get to the bottom of this.

Has anyone tried go there to get the blower casing open?





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i will go to book my se this tuesday morning and go jpj to purchase my desire car plate no in the afternoon. anyone buy car plate no recently from jpj ? do i need to bring over the booking form or just bring ic would do?
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i will go to book my se this tuesday morning and go jpj to purchase my desire car plate no in the afternoon. anyone buy car plate no recently from jpj ? do i need to bring over the booking form or just bring ic would do?
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i will go to book my se this tuesday morning and go jpj to purchase my desire car plate no in the afternoon. anyone buy car plate no recently from jpj ? do i need to bring over the booking form or just bring ic would do?
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As promised....

You need to put paddings to the engine breather hose... it is 100% rubbing against a electrical socket above the throttle body.... see arrows!!!

The puffy insulflex u see in this photo is added by me.

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keeplwk
post Oct 26 2009, 12:06 AM

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where to get the insulflex??any1 selling at lyn?

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