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TSgkl83
post May 22 2008, 08:54 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi guys, i decided to create a new topic for bank mortgage to post their current/best packages now...
quite number of mortgagers around anywhere of lowyat forums and quite difficult to ask 1 by 1 ...
any bank mortgager are welcomed to post here and allowed us best to get the correct housing loan packages... or anyone have housing loan information are welcomed to post here as well...
List down any info if possible by following the standard below:

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Information:

Bank: Money Bank
Mortgager's Contact: 0123-1234567 or ABC@ABC.com
Mortgager's Location: My House

Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Flexi or XXX

Under Construction
1st year: X.XX%
Thereafter: BLR -X.XX%
Maximum year of tenure: XX years

Completed
1st year: X.XX%
Thereafter: BLR -X.XX%
Maximum year of tenure: XX years

ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Flexi or XXX

Under Construction
1st year: X.XX%
Thereafter: BLR -X.XX%
Maximum year of tenure: XX years

Completed
1st year: X.XX%
Thereafter: BLR -X.XX%
Maximum year of tenure: XX years

MRTA:
List down if possible, too many packages as i know... sweat.gif

Others:
Example:
1. Refinancing ZEC, EPA
2. The ways to shorten the tenure year such as pay house installment 2 week once, etc...


Note: Edit any info if possible, i will update my standard at my 1st post. Thanks


NOTE FROM THE MOD (b00n): Pls post the loan package information besides the norm of "PM me for details"/"call me for details" etc..
If the post is without the requested information as per thread starter and pure advertising; than it would be deleted!
Thread pinned. But if it's spammed, than it would be taken down!


Since no one reads this 1st post anymore; pls proceed to this topic at property section https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1702463 (if you do read this 1st post) *sigh*

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post May 22 2008, 09:13 AM

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Good thread.
i thinks there will be people giving u all the information you want.

im also want to find out now, for my futures.

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post May 22 2008, 12:08 PM

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There's already a place where you can compare the packages: http://www.fiscal-wise.com.my/FiscalWiseWe...anByWizard.aspx

Quite updated I think
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post May 22 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 22 2008, 12:08 PM)
There's already a place where you can compare the packages: http://www.fiscal-wise.com.my/FiscalWiseWe...anByWizard.aspx

Quite updated I think
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erm...
difficult to sort out any recommended bank... sweat.gif

what this thread required to get the exact informations from mortgager, because housing loan may vary month by month... and the most of the bank's website was no up to date too... shakehead.gif

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post May 22 2008, 06:24 PM

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got offer from hsbc pbb and uob. all seem the same

BLR-2 ZMC flexi.
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post May 22 2008, 07:07 PM

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huh... can get BLR-2? I asked they told me the best offer is BLR-1.85 for CIMB, ZMC flexi
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post May 22 2008, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(noproblem @ May 22 2008, 07:07 PM)
huh... can get BLR-2? I asked they told me the best offer is BLR-1.85 for CIMB, ZMC flexi
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yup... i can get BLR-2 @ 2nd year onward from PBB, same for both NON-ZEC and ZEC
but only difference was the 1st year with/without 3.88%...
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post May 22 2008, 07:31 PM

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waa.. which branch? how did you get 3.88%?

sounds cool man.. completed or non completed property? landed or non landed?
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QUOTE(wheimeng @ May 22 2008, 07:31 PM)
waa.. which branch? how did you get 3.88%?

sounds cool man.. completed or non completed property? landed or non landed?
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Information:

Bank: Public Bank
Mortgager's Contact: -
Mortgager's Location: -

Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Unknown

Under Construction
1st year: No need to pay anything
2nd year onwards: BLR -2.00
Maximum year of tenure: 30-35 years

ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Unknown

Under Construction
1st year: 3.88%
2nd year onwards: BLR -2.00%
Maximum year of tenure: 30-35 years

MRTA:
MRTA can register 1 person name only although house owner have 2 person...
the loan amount 100% bear on 1 person that registered...

Others:
Nope


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post May 22 2008, 09:16 PM

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Alliance Bank offering

1st and 2nd year fixed rates 3.50% - 3.75%

PM me for more info

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post May 22 2008, 09:29 PM

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Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Flexi Loan (MortgageOne)

Under Construction
BLR-2.00% throughout
Maximum year of tenure: Max 30 yrs up to 65 years old, self-employed up to 70 years old

Completed
BLR-2.00 thorughout
Maximum year of tenure: Max 30 yrs up to 65 years old, self-employed up to 70 years old

ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Flexi Loan (MortgageOne)
Under Construction
1st to 5th year: BLR-1.6%
Thereafter: BLR -2.00%
Maximum year of tenure: Max 30 yrs up to 65 years old, self-employed up to 70 years old

Completed
1st to 5th year: BLR-1.65%
Thereafter: BLR -2.00%
Maximum year of tenure: Max 30 yrs up to 65 years old, self-employed up to 70 years old

all the above rate is still can nagotiable depends on the loan amount.

P/S: for ZEC min loan is 100k. For NZEC min loan is 40k

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post May 22 2008, 09:54 PM

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Hiro-san and Errie,

Will your bank approve my home loan application if I buy a property (from the subsale market) that has been completed but has NOT yet receive CF. According to the seller, the developer will only get the temporary CF in 1-2 months.



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post May 22 2008, 11:51 PM

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mortgage officer welcome to offer me thru PM

1. apartment refinance 170K loan, waiting for strata tittle in 2months time. ZEC.

2. completed condo , 200K loan, ZEC.
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post May 23 2008, 12:47 AM

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Information:

Bank: United Overseas Bank ( U O B )
Mortgager's Contact: 6012- 517 1210 ( Wayne )
Mortgager's Location: EVERYWHERE......

Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Intelligent Home Loan ( i H L )

1
Under Construction < 40%
1st year: 0%
2nd year onwards: BLR -1.60
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65


2
Under Construction
1st - 3rd year: BLR -2.00
4rd year onwards: BLR -1.60
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65




ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Intelligent Home Loan ( i H L )
Under Construction or Completed
Whole Tenure: BLR -1.75
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65




MRTA:
MRTA can register 1 person name only although house owner have 2 person...
the loan amount 100% bear on 1 person that registered...

Others:
This all only Board Rate, and also T&C apply.. For more information can call for appointment..


Added on May 23, 2008, 12:50 amInformation:

This post has been edited by waynejw: May 23 2008, 12:53 AM
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We can base on completed property to process your loan, we r accept temporary CF.. if without CF then must be treat is as 'under construction' property even it has been completed.
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post May 23 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(waynejw @ May 23 2008, 12:47 AM)
Information:

Bank: United Overseas Bank ( U O B )
Mortgager's Contact: 6012- 517 1210 ( Wayne )
Mortgager's Location: EVERYWHERE......

Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Intelligent Home Loan ( i H L )

1
Under Construction < 40%
1st year: 0%
2nd year onwards: BLR -1.60
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65


2
Under Construction
1st - 3rd year: BLR -2.00
4rd year onwards: BLR -1.60
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65

ZEC:
Type of loan packages: Intelligent Home Loan ( i H L )
Under Construction or Completed
Whole Tenure: BLR -1.75
Maximum year of tenure: 30 years or age of 65

MRTA:
MRTA can register 1 person name only although house owner have 2 person...
the loan amount 100% bear on 1 person that registered...

Others:
This all only Board Rate, and also T&C apply.. For more information can call for appointment..


Added on May 23, 2008, 12:50 amInformation:
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Wayne,

UOB got special interest rate for UOB card holder, right?
I get BLR-2.0% whole tenure.
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270k++ loan amount, under construction, 30 years, ZMC, Flexi... PM me the offer... thanks
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Home Loan Amt Require = 240k++
Status = Completed,
Loan Tenure = 30 years
Feature = ZMC, Flexi

PM me the offer... Thanks

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post May 25 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(SynHeng @ May 23 2008, 08:07 PM)
Wayne,

UOB got special interest rate for UOB card holder, right?
I get BLR-2.0% whole tenure.
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Hi, is that ur loan amount more than 300k...?
that not a special for card holder.... this is u r good payer and potential customer lol....
hihihiiiiiiii
thanks for support...


Added on May 25, 2008, 11:24 pmactually we cant offer you the rate here because not us to set the rate for you.. even now i say can offer you -2.00 but mayb after proccess it might -1.85 or lesser lol.....
so normally just can let you know the board rate and how much installment to you lol...
thanks ya....

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ May 25 2008, 01:26 PM)
Home Loan Amt Require = 240k++
Status = Completed,
Loan Tenure = 30 years
Feature = ZMC, Flexi

PM me the offer... Thanks
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hi ,

I'm thinking to refinance my current property , the current bank ( UOB ) only offer me BLR- 1% and with conversion of 1k .

Please email me at guanleng@gmail.com if got offer .

My property is at Puchong near IOI mall .

Thanks !


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www.fiscal-wise.com.my/ is quite outdated. It's better that you ask a banker for the rate as fiscal only shows old board rate while we on the other hand can offer better rate.
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Try this site's housing loan comparative tables.

http://www.bankinginfo.com.my/04_help_and_...tPrefLangID=1&#


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I planning to refinance my property..
I look for cimb, alliances, public bank morgage sales person contact.
Please PM me


Added on August 5, 2008, 11:07 amDear mortgage loan consultant,

I currently survey n planning for refinancing..

House details:
House Price = 164000k
Home Loan Amt Require = 140k++
Status = Completed,
Loan Tenure = 30 years
Feature = ZMC, Flexi
lock in period=5 yr


Enquiry Details:
Bank:?
Rate:?
Penalty:?
contactNo:?

I wish to get PM about the offer ... Thanks

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Hmm, I just got a BLR-2.05% for 30yrs offer from CIMB, dunno if that helps any of you reading this thread.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 29 2008, 11:12 AM)
Hmm, I just got a BLR-2.05% for 30yrs offer from CIMB, dunno if that helps any of you reading this thread.
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Is it Zero Entry or Non Zero?
What is your loan amount?
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Dear All,

I am new here. I learn a lot browsing thru the forum.
I have a case and need some creative ideas. I am getting married and
trying to buy over my future wife's condo which the loan service by the
father.

He bought it at 280k and selling for 300k. Outstanding loan (served 3 years) with bank to date is around 200k+ .I myself have 100k. What would be the method so I could spend the least in order to settle this purchase? (as I would love to save some cash for later investment)

Looking forward to your reply. Thank you.


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QUOTE(hoeynala @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 AM)
Dear All,

I am new here. I learn a lot browsing thru the forum.
I have a case and need some creative ideas. I am getting married and
trying to buy over my future wife's condo which the loan service by the
father.

He bought it at 280k and selling for 300k. Outstanding loan (served 3 years) with bank to date is around 200k+ .I myself have 100k. What would be the method so I could spend the least in order to settle this purchase? (as I would love to save some cash for later investment)

Looking forward to your reply. Thank you.
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what do you mean loan service by the father? is he a mortgage banker?

Anyway,in your case here,i think the best package suit for you would be a flexi loan.
As you have RM100k in hand now,you may use it to help yourself to save Rm100k of interest.
With flexi loan,you can use the Rm100k anytime when it's nessesary or when you have a good chance for investment.
You can apply for a RM300k flexi loan,then put your RM100k to the same bank.
So the bank will only count interest base on Rm200k,but your installment will base on Rm300k.
And your Rm100k will be available for you anytime to use it. smile.gif

Or

You may also use the RM100k as down payment, so that you just need to get RM200k loan,
Then your loan interest will be count with Rm200k also,but your installment will lower as it count on Rm200k.
But if you do so,you will lost your RM100k cash liquidity.


If you need more detail calculation,feel free to pm or contact me.
If you need help to apply the loan, i can provide service from all major bank in Malaysia too,
I will be glad to help thumbup.gif

017-6100337
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QUOTE(hoeynala @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 AM)
Dear All,

I am new here. I learn a lot browsing thru the forum.
I have a case and need some creative ideas. I am getting married and
trying to buy over my future wife's condo which the loan service by the
father.

He bought it at 280k and selling for 300k. Outstanding loan (served 3 years) with bank to date is around 200k+ .I myself have 100k. What would be the method so I could spend the least in order to settle this purchase? (as I would love to save some cash for later investment)

Looking forward to your reply. Thank you.
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Since u have alot of cash on hand, by choosing Flexi loan will be able to help u save on the interest. You have the option to choose between Zero Entry Cost (bank absorb legal fees) and non zero packages with the latter have a better rates.

If this is your first house, you might want to take out your money from EPF Account 2 as well.
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how about http://www.money3.com.my/ for house loan info?
hope this helps biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Sep 30 2008, 10:36 AM)
what do you mean loan service by the father? is he a mortgage banker?

Anyway,in your case here,i think the best package suit for you would be a flexi loan.
As you have RM100k in hand now,you may use it to help yourself to save Rm100k of interest.
With flexi loan,you can use the Rm100k anytime when it's nessesary or when you have a good chance for investment.
You can apply for a RM300k flexi loan,then put your RM100k to the same bank.
So the bank will only count interest base on Rm200k,but your installment will base on Rm300k.
And your Rm100k will be available for you anytime to use it.  smile.gif

Or

You may also use the RM100k as down payment, so that you just need to get RM200k loan,
Then your loan interest will be count with Rm200k also,but your installment will lower as it count on Rm200k.
But if you do so,you will lost your RM100k cash liquidity.
If you need more detail calculation,feel free to pm or contact me.
If you need help to apply the loan, i can provide service from all major bank in Malaysia too,
I will be glad to help  thumbup.gif

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could you elaborate more on installment base on 200k and 300k?
for personal stay, is it better to finance 90% or less?


Added on October 1, 2008, 10:27 am
QUOTE(VpowerZone @ Sep 30 2008, 10:48 AM)
Since u have alot of cash on hand, by choosing Flexi loan will be able to help u save on the interest. You have the option to choose between Zero Entry Cost (bank absorb legal fees) and non zero packages with the latter have a better rates.

If this is your first house, you might want to take out your money from EPF Account 2 as well.
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It seems like Maybank has the lowest rate loan right now.
How to apply for EPF account 2?

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QUOTE(jascheng @ Nov 3 2008, 11:56 PM)
hi all, im jas from price solutions, the subsidiary of standard chartered group. if you guys interested in housing loan, feel free to reach me at 0125879488 or email me at jascheng31@hotmail.com

our bank have the best rate in town. and now it's the right time to refinance your house. so why wait?
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It would be much helpful if you publish the rate here instead of asking one to contact you.
At least it the first point for them to compare.
That's also the purpose for this thread.

Dear all: Next advertising post would be deleted.

btw, if only this thread gets more informative than I'll consider pinning it up.
So guys, pls post constructively.

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Help available at your fingertips here... For you to compare and get loan packages information offered by all the banks in Malaysia. smile.gif

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Currently the best offer i think is from Alliance
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Nov 5 2008, 04:03 PM)
Currently the best offer i think is from Alliance
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There are always 2 side for a coin biggrin.gif
Lowest rate does not means the best package.
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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Nov 5 2008, 05:06 PM)
There are always 2 side for a coin biggrin.gif
Lowest rate does not means the best package.
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i don understand refinance?can i get loan from refinance??

let say
house price 200k ++ already 2 years.. , can refinance borrow me 100k+ so the total loan would be 300k++ ? is it like htis?
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i don understand refinance?can i get loan from refinance??

let say
house price 200k ++ already 2 years.. , can refinance borrow me 100k+ so the total loan would be 300k++ ? is it like htis?
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No.

Scenario A:
No loan. So refinance here meant that the house is placed as a collateral to the bank for a loan up to a certain value of the property.

Scenario B:
Outstanding loan is RM200k.
Property value is RM220k.
So refinance here meant that you borrow from another bank at the property value of RM220k. So if the bank lends you RM220k (which a lot of time wouldn't be the case), RM200k would go to settle your previous loan and you'll have excess RM20k.

Ppl usually refinance because of interest rate savings and also in case they need extra cash.

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Nov 5 2008, 08:28 PM)
Best package in term of?  hmm.gif
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It is like you are buying a car. Do you only look at it's horsepower? and nothing else?
Housing loan is not only about the rates.
What kind of package (daily rest? monthly rest? conventional? Islamic? Flexi? Full flexi? Wannabe flexi?), what are the monthly charges/hidden charges, setup fee/processing fee, how much processing fee for withdrawal of excess payment, how are extra payment towards principal made (do i just dump all money into the cash machine and it will automatically do the maths for me?), what are the terms and condition, exactly how convenient is it for me to pay the monthly installment, how easy is it for me to get hold the customer service when i need help, how fast the bank disburse the money to developer or vendor so that i wont get charged interests, blablabla ....
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What eDogawa said is absolutely right.
I'll give some example here...

Mr. X wanna buy a house worth RM500k.
He have RM250k cash.
He want to take a loan of 90% margin.
Preferable flexibility.

Package A from Bank A
BLR -2.3% WHOLE TENURE ZEC
T&C:
1. allow pre-payment not exceed 50% of loan amount or else will be
charge 1.5% on the amount exceeded.
2. 3 days notice to make withdrawal. RMxxx will be charge per transaction.

Package A from Bank B
BLR -2.0% WHOLE TENURE ZEC
T&C:
1. Flexibility to dump-in money. Zerorise housing loan within bonding period without any penalty fee AS LONG AS the subject property are not refinance / discharge from the bank.
2. cheque book and ATM card provided to ease withdrawal. only RMxx will be charge annually to maintain current account.

Between the above 2 package of housing loan offer by 2 different banks, which package do you think Mr. X will take up??

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First Year 3.80% for taking MRTA


All below was Free Legal document Package:

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Normal Term Loan Package

Loan Amount :150k - 350k
Interest: BLR-2.0 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :350k - 500k
Interest: BLR-2.1

Loan Amount :>500k
Interest: BLR-2.2


Full Flexi Package

Loan Amount :200k - 400k
Interest: BLR-2.0 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :400k - 500k
Interest: BLR-2.1

Loan Amount >500k
Interest: BLR-2.2


Public Bank Commercial Plan

Loan Amount :200k - 300k
Interest: BLR-1.5 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :300k - 400k
Interest: BLR-1.6 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount : > 400k
Interest: BLR-1.7 Whole Tenure


Feel Free take a look on our latest package. Thank

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any bank absorb the penalty fees by previous loan terminated early to refianance?


Added on November 16, 2008, 12:26 amany bank absorb the penalty fees by previous loan terminated early to refianance?

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Eon bank package 3 absorbs penalty up to 3% of loan plus pay for all legal fees for new loan agreement. Rate is BLR-1.6% for first 8 years, then BLR-2.4% TA. Lock in is long though....8 years with penalty of 5%.
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QUOTE(abyss8 @ Nov 8 2008, 01:58 AM)
What eDogawa said is absolutely right.
I'll give some example here...

Mr. X wanna buy a house worth RM500k.
He have RM250k cash.
He want to take a loan of 90% margin.
Preferable flexibility.

Package A from Bank A
BLR -2.3% WHOLE TENURE ZEC
T&C:
1. allow pre-payment not exceed 50% of loan amount or else will be 
charge 1.5% on the amount exceeded.
2. 3 days notice to make withdrawal. RMxxx will be charge per transaction.

Package A from Bank B
BLR -2.0% WHOLE TENURE ZEC
T&C:
1. Flexibility to dump-in money. Zerorise housing loan within bonding period without any penalty fee AS LONG AS the subject property are not refinance / discharge from the bank.
2. cheque book and ATM card provided to ease withdrawal. only RMxx will be charge annually to maintain current account.

Between the above 2 package of housing loan offer by 2 different banks, which package do you think Mr. X will take up??
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if i was mr X
i'd take bank A
any dumping, i'd dump into ASB or anything that provides me better rate than BLR - 2.3
but that's just me.
i have the luxury of ASB.
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New AIA rate!!

------------------------Loan To Value----------- Loan To Value
----------------(more than 80% to 90%) -----(80% & Below)

Zero Moving ----------5.85% p.a. ---------------5.75% p.a.
Cost (ZMC)

Non Zero --------------5.70% p.a.--------------- 5.60% p.a.
Moving Cost (NZMC)

* Term & condition apply


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what's the minimum amount?
what is the maximum duration?
what is the rate with or without MRTA?
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which one r u referring to? If it's my via my co. ie. NYLife :-

1) No min amount, if lower than RM100k client must cover his/her own legal fee
2) Max duration is 45yrs depending on age
3) Rate is BLR - 2.5% (4.0% based on BLR of 6.5%)

Additional info :-
1) We are an financial broker for most local/foreign banks. Easy 1 stop submission for your loans ie. 1 loan application will be submitted to 10+ (& growing) panel banks.
Within 3 days a pre-approved offer will be given. Saves you time + money ie. you do not need to travel and submit 10+ applications on your own.
2) Better rates via NYLife than personal application ie. if you apply for a RM500k loan, your rates is as per RM500k, however NyLife applies for RM50-100million loans per week, your rates will be better going through us with higher negotiation power.
3) Loan application services are f.o.c.

* Besides housing loans, we are a 1-stop solution for all your financial and property needs ie. buying/selling properties, loans, insurance, legal advise, estate planning & investment.

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AMBANK

Properties value - 340k
BLR - 2.25% (approved rate, promo rate is -2.3%)
Whole tenure 30yrs
RM5/month maintenance
RM100 setup fees. RM10 Standing Order stamping.
Full flexi, anytime withdrawal/deposit
daily interest calculation


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Anyone know about UOB BLR now?
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6.5%
effective 1st dec - maybank, cimb, uob, eon, hong leong, alliance, public bank
effective 3rd dec - ocbc

6.55%
effective 1st dec - citibank

correct me if im wrong
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...42&sec=business

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We'll see mostly BLR either to be at 6.5% or 6.55%.

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Information:

Bank: hong leong
Mortgager's Contact: -
Mortgager's Location: -

Non-ZEC:
Type of loan packages:

Under Construction
1st year: 2.38%net
2nd year onwards: BLR 2.88%net
thereafter:-1.30%(with MDTA)
Maximum year of tenure: 30-65 whichever is earlier

ZEC:
Type of loan packages:

Under Construction
1st year: 2.88%net
2nd year onwards: 3.88%net
thereafter:-1.30(with MDTA)
Maximum year of tenure: 30-65 whichever is earlier

If you wan more information u can massage here and email me johnchew2002@hotmail.com...i will reply u as soon as possible...thank biggrin.gif
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AFAIK, only alrajhi + PBB + CIMB give sub 100k loans, yes?
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looking for loan refinance tht give ZMC , 160K, pm me ur rate, preferable no lock in period n fixed rate.
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i got approved by UOB mortgage loan for 216k BLR - 1.8%...base on today BLR 6.50 - 1.80=4.70% i paying..is consider good rate?
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affin blr - 1.9 FMC
cimb blr - 2.x
i think you can get better.

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loans are highly subjective to customer's credit profile also as well as a host of other factors ie. length of loan, loan amount etc, for good profile clients we got 6.5 - 2.5 = 4.0%. So far still unbeatable. Besides clients other bankers are also welcomed to join our panel to ensure you have the best rates for your clients. Kindly pm for more details.

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6.5% - 2.5%..i' not that high profile yet...
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What if i'm working for my own company and i want to get home loan up to 300k. Heard that now banks are very stringent, what would be the requirement?
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Hi people. I know there is already a sticky of this topic but I was thinking of gathering all the info and compiling it all into 1 so that it is easier to check the rates.

So Lets get started.

CHOOSING THE IDEAL LOAN

There are hundreds of different loan packages out there that offers different rates and different features. Therefore, when choosing a home loan package the 1st question that pops up in your head should not be:

"Which bank offers the lowest interest rate?"

Interest rate should not influence you so much to the extend that you do not consider other factors. The 1st question that you should ask is:

"Which bank can offer me a good loan package under these circumstances?"

Reason why I would advise such is:

1. Service is just as important.
You can choose the best rate in town but if the person serving you is lazy or rude or with an attitude, your loan will most probably get delayed as the staff might have pushed your loan application aside/ When there is something wrong with the loan eg: the loan package that you got is not the one you requested, you can't find or call the person that served you... Actually there's thousand and 1 things that can happen so even if the rates is BLR0.05% better than another bank, I'd rather pay abit for the good service.

2. Are you a risk taker
There are 2 different types of rate that I can think of:

a) Fixed rate
Fixed rate have higher BLR. This is more for those that are risk adverse. Reason is that BLR can fluctuate. Within your 30 years tenure, BLR can shoot up to as high as 12.77% (the highest it went back in 1997).

:: Pros

When interest rates rise, your repayments won’t

:: Cons

If interest rates fall, your repayments won’t
Restrictions on prepayments
No redrawing permitted

b) Variable rate
Variable rate has a lower BLR and this are more for people who are willing to take a bit of risk as nobody can predict what the BLR would be in the coming years. Great example would be the latest decrease in BLR. What was predicted before BLR went down was that it would go up to 7% but instead.. it went down.

:: Pros

When interest rates fall, repayments fall
You enjoy very low interest rates during the initial years
May allow prepayments (subject to conditions)
May have redrawing features (subject to conditions)

:: Cons

When interest rates rise, so do your repayments

3. Xtra charges
Certain banks have hidden cost or extra charge. So remember to ask again and again what charges they have. Eg: Some banks will charge you for every transaction you make. So be xtra careful on that.

Another one would be the "ZERO COST" packages. Do ask the sales staff if all legal fees, stamp duty and valuation fee will be fully absorbed by the bank. Eg: Certain banks will state that it is zero cost however you have to pay 0.5% of the legal fee blink.gif or it could be free legal documentation but you have to pay for valuation fee.

4. Term Loan or Flexi Loan

a) Term loan
May offer you the best rate but keep in mind that if you want to pay xtra to clear off your principal, you have to inform the bank in advance. Any xtra payment that you make, you cannot request to withdraw it.

b) Flexi Loan
With the current account, you can deposit money in as a payment for our principal which will help you reduce the interest AND you have the option to withdraw the money at anytime. There are certain banks that has add on features that can link your loan to your savings and offers you additional bonus credit to offset your loan.
Note: Usually there is a set up fee of RM200 and maintenance fee of RM10-RM15 depending on the bank. That's another thing that you should check.

These are a few that I can think about at the moment. Any xtra help would be much appreciated.


Added on December 12, 2008, 11:55 amDOCUMENTATION

General documents to be prepared.

1) Photocopy of IC
2) Land Title/ S&P
3) Latest 3 months salary slip
4) Latest Bank statment that your salary is credited into
5) BE form & tax receipt
6) Any fixed deposit/ addtional savings you have frm other banks
7) Loan statement (for refinancing cases)
8) Borang A & D (for sole proprietor & partneship- self employed)
9) Borang 24 & 49 (for companies- self employed)
10) 6 months current account (for self employed)

These are the documents that are normally required depending on different circumstances. So you can be prepared. Any bankers around that wants to add on?

There is no harm applying with a few banks as the rates shown are Board Rates which can be negotiated. It is all subjected to management approval brows.gif


Added on December 12, 2008, 12:00 pmPUBLIC BANK
Public Home Plan

ZERO COST PACKAGE (ZC)

Normal Term Loan Package

Loan Amount :150k - 350k
Interest: BLR-2.0 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :350k - 500k
Interest: BLR-2.1

Loan Amount :>500k
Interest: BLR-2.2


Full Flexi Package*

Loan Amount :200k - 400k
Interest: BLR-2.0 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :400k - 500k
Interest: BLR-2.1

Loan Amount >500k
Interest: BLR-2.2

* Take note of this. I have checked with public bank but this is not the rate. For their flexi loan Package, the rate is higher. Any PB banker here please clarify on this. Or is this NON ZERO COST (NZC)?


Public Bank Commercial Plan

Loan Amount :200k - 300k
Interest: BLR-1.5 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount :300k - 400k
Interest: BLR-1.6 Whole Tenure

Loan Amount : > 400k
Interest: BLR-1.7 Whole Tenure

Person to contact: HK Law
H/P number: 0166199989


Added on December 12, 2008, 12:14 pmCIMB BANK

ZERO COST PACKAGE (ZC)

Flexi Home Loan Package

Loan Amount : < RM300k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-1.65% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-1.75% Whole Tenure

Loan Amount : >RM300k, <RM500k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-1.75% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-1.85% Whole Tenure

Loan Amount >500k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-1.85% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-1.95% Whole Tenure

Additional BLR-0.1% for MRTA

NON ZERO COST PACKAGE (ZC)

Flexi Home Loan Package

Loan Amount : < RM300k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-1.85% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-1.95% Whole Tenure

Loan Amount : >RM300k, <RM500k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-1.95% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-2.05% Whole Tenure

Loan Amount >500k
Interest:
Under Construction - BLR-2.05% Whole Tenure
Completed - BLR-2.15% Whole Tenure

Additional BLR-0.1% for MRTA

Person to contact: Can contact me and I'll look for a CIMB banker for you
H/P number: 0123871138


Added on December 12, 2008, 12:25 pmEON BANK

ZERO COST PACKAGE (ZC)

Loan Amount : > RM200k
Interest:
Completed - BLR-2.2%- 2.3% Whole Tenure

Note:
1. This is not a completely zero cost package. Customer will have to bear 0.5% of the legal fees.
2. I need someone to confirm if it is a flexi package or term loan as I'm getting 2 diff answers frm 2 diff staff.

For those who wants their penalty fees up to 3% absorbed as well:

Interest: 1st 8 years - BLR-1.6%
Thereafter - BLR-2.4%

Lock-in-period = 8 years


Added on December 12, 2008, 12:40 pmPRICE SOLUTION (subgroup of Std Chartered Bank)

Mortgage One (flexi)

ZERO COST PACKAGE

Under Construction
1st to 5th year: BLR-1.6%
Thereafter: BLR -2.00%

Completed
1st to 5th year: BLR-1.65%
Thereafter: BLR -2.00%

NON ZERO COST PACKAGE (NZC)

Under Construction
BLR-2.00% Whole Tenure

Completed
BLR-2.00% Whole Tenure

Rates are negotiable

Person to contact: Can contact me and I'll look for a PS banker for you
H/P number: 0123871138


Added on December 12, 2008, 12:47 pmUNITED OVERSEAS BANK

INTELLIGENT HOME LOAN ( i H L )

NON ZERO COST

Under Construction < 40%
1st year: 0%
2nd year onwards: BLR -1.60

Under Construction
1st - 3rd year: BLR -2.00
4rd year onwards: BLR -1.60

ZERO COST

Under Construction or Completed
Whole Tenure: BLR -1.75

MRTA:
MRTA can register 1 person name only although house owner have 2 person...
the loan amount 100% bear on 1 person that registered...

Person to contact: Wayne
H/P number: 012- 517 1210


Added on December 12, 2008, 1:04 pmHONG LEONG BANK

If I'm not mistaken this is term loan

NON ZERO COST

Under Construction
1st year: 2.38%net
2nd year onwards: BLR 2.88%net
thereafter:-1.30%(with MDTA)

ZERO COST

Under Construction
1st year: 2.88%net
2nd year onwards: 3.88%net
thereafter:-1.30(with MDTA)

Person to contact: JohnChew2002@hotmail.com/ Me!!
H/P number: 012-2498060/ 012-3871138

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Standard Chartered Mortgage One

ZEC:
Loan Amount 100 - 200k
BLR- 1.75% (1-5 yrs)
BLR- 2% (Thereafter)

NZEC:
Loan Amount 200-400k
BLR- 2.3% whole tenure

5 yrs Lock In Period

*Better rates for higher loan amount


Thanks,

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While I was talking to my client today, an idea just hit me so I'm going to bounce this idea around and see what you guys think.

Assumption:
Loan tenure = 21yrs
Outstanding loan balance = RM120k
Market value for home = RM200k

Monthly loan repayment for a housing loan of RM120k = RM737
Do a refinancing with top up to RM160k (after a few years) = RM983
Investment in Gold @ 2.5%pm for the additional RM40k = RM1,000

Seems like a win win situation. If the investment doesn't go well, customer can put back the additional 40k which will reduce his interest payment and further shorten his loan tenure as the customer will be paying more of his principal. hmmm...
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what bout Maybank? DOes anyone knows about Maybank Maxi Home?
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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Dec 13 2008, 01:01 AM)

Investment in Gold @ 2.5%pm for the additional RM40k = RM1,000

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bro, you are making a very big assumption here... 2.5%pm compounding for 12 months [ (1.025)^12-1 ] is 34.49% pa of return! That is better than any equity investment at this moment which all delivers negative return. Please consider the volatility...

LOOK:-
mortgage BLR-2%, about 4%+++
credit card 18%+
personal loan.... dunno let say 20%+

Any borrowing cost is cheaper than your assumption of expected return. FYI, risk free rate we normally use Fixed Deposit ( 3% ++ ) or KLIBOR ( 2% ++ ) only.... therefore anything above that is consider risky investment.
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QUOTE(novabankinghall @ Dec 15 2008, 12:04 AM)
bro, you are making a very big assumption here... 2.5%pm compounding for 12 months [ (1.025)^12-1 ] is 34.49% pa of return! That is better than any equity investment at this moment which all delivers negative return. Please consider the volatility...

LOOK:-
mortgage BLR-2%, about 4%+++
credit card 18%+
personal loan.... dunno let say 20%+

Any borrowing cost is cheaper than your assumption of expected return. FYI, risk free rate we normally use Fixed Deposit ( 3% ++ ) or KLIBOR ( 2% ++ ) only.... therefore anything above that is consider risky investment.
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1stly, I ain't bro. You can call me sis.
2ndly, the risk is:
- 1. Company closes down you lose 20%-25% of your gold value. Once you sell the gold, you can put the money back into the current account IF you took up the flexi home loan package. With that, the money you put back will offset the principal.
- 2. You lose the gold
3rdly, the gold trade has been mentioned in another thread. As I was saying there, it is not subject to market volatility.
4thly, it does not work on personal loan. I've already calculated it. If you borrow RM10k @ say 12% pa, monthly installment is RM250. Rebate from the gold trading for RM10k is also RM250. So theres no point in doing it. rclxms.gif This applies to cc as well.
Lastly, this only applies for refinancing.

This is my opinion after doing some calculations. And considering that the economy is going to be worse, it would help ppl pay off their monthly installments. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(guanleng @ Jul 3 2008, 04:05 PM)
hi ,

I'm thinking to refinance my current property , the current bank ( UOB ) only offer me BLR- 1% and with conversion of 1k .

Please email me at guanleng@gmail.com if got offer .

My property is at Puchong near IOI mall .

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What is the conversion of 1k for? is it for something like admin fees?
Are you still tied to UOB?
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Nov 27 2008, 07:23 PM)
which one r u referring to? If it's my via my co. ie. NYLife :-

1) No min amount, if lower than RM100k client must cover his/her own legal fee
2) Max duration is 45yrs depending on age
3) Rate is BLR - 2.5% (4.0% based on BLR of 6.5%)

Additional info :-
1) We are an financial broker for most local/foreign banks. Easy 1 stop submission for your loans ie. 1 loan application will be submitted to 10+ (& growing) panel banks.
Within 3 days a pre-approved offer will be given. Saves you time + money ie. you do not need to travel and submit 10+ applications on your own.
2) Better rates via NYLife than personal application ie. if you apply for a RM500k loan, your rates is as per RM500k, however NyLife applies for RM50-100million loans per week, your rates will be better going through us with higher negotiation power.
3) Loan application services are f.o.c.

* Besides housing loans, we are a 1-stop solution for all your financial and property needs ie. buying/selling properties, loans, insurance, legal advise, estate planning & investment.
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Hi Danny,
I am interested to refinance my housing loan, could you please provide me more information about the housing loan package and info about your company. TQ


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Hi, I am from PS, Standard Chartered Bank..I'm here again to sharing with u all, currently my bank is having a new interest rate on Normal Term Loan for completed property.. that is

ZEC (min loan size 100k)
1st-3rd year: 4.88% fixed
Thereafter: BLR-2.2%

Non ZEC (min loan size 40k)
1st-3rd year: 4.18% fixed
Thereafter: BLR-2.2%



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hi everyone, i just paid booking fee for a condo unit, now scouting for housing loan, if u guys got any special loan package, please PM me, thanks.

purchase price: RM315,000
building status: completed (9 years ago)
location: Brickfields KL
type of use: Residential Condominium
land tenure: Freehold
preferred margin of finance: 90% (RM283,500)
preferred loan package: term loan (without overdraft facilities)
MRTA/MLTA: no
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QUOTE(SowYau @ Dec 26 2008, 11:11 AM)
hi everyone, i just paid booking fee for a condo unit, now scouting for housing loan, if u guys got any special loan package, please PM me, thanks.

purchase price: RM315,000
building status: completed (9 years ago)
location: Brickfields KL
type of use: Residential Condominium
land tenure: Freehold
preferred margin of finance: 90% (RM283,500)
preferred loan package: term loan (without overdraft facilities)
MRTA/MLTA: no
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With you currently loan amount I could offer you BLR -1.9% for ZMC & BLR 2.0% for nZMC. If you are not looking for a overdraft facility, i believe semi-flexi conventional loan would suit you better.

Do let me know if you wish to know more about mortgage loans. You may reach me at my mobile or email.

Hope to hear from you soon. smile.gif


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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Dec 15 2008, 10:12 AM)
1stly, I ain't bro. You can call me sis.
2ndly, the risk is:
- 1. Company closes down you lose 20%-25% of your gold value. Once you sell the gold, you can put the money back into the current account IF you took up the flexi home loan package. With that, the money you put back will offset the principal.
- 2. You lose the gold
3rdly, the gold trade has been mentioned in another thread. As I was saying there, it is not subject to market volatility.
4thly, it does not work on personal loan. I've already calculated it. If you borrow RM10k @ say 12% pa, monthly installment is RM250. Rebate from the gold trading for RM10k is also RM250. So theres no point in doing it.  rclxms.gif This applies to cc as well.
Lastly, this only applies for refinancing.

This is my opinion after doing some calculations. And considering that the economy is going to be worse, it would help ppl pay off their monthly installments.  thumbup.gif
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Actually this is something I won't recommend because you can't be sure of the return. Secondly there may even be losses. For important expenses like housing loan, it is not worthwhile to play with risk. If anything goes wrong with this risky investment, the first person the client look for is you. I will only introduce high risk high return investments if the customer has extra cash and doesn't know what to do with it, but for a client who still has to pay for his loans, 1st priority is to reduce cost and expenses.

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Hi guyz...i'm looking forward to buy semi d house at at bandar bukit mahkota bangi..price is 240k....my salary after deduction is 2500...therefore i need some advice...what is the best loan package...i need lower monthly installment and is it possible to have 100% loan or at least 95% loan? please advice...pm me if possible...or here also can..i've noticed we have bank staff here...i'm looking for 30 years installment..let me know monthly installment

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Hi guyz...i'm looking forward to buy semi d house at at bandar bukit mahkota bangi..price is 240k....my salary after deduction is 2500...therefore i need some advice...what is the best loan package...i need lower monthly installment and is it possible to have 100% loan or at least 95% loan? please advice...pm me if possible...or here also can..i've noticed we have bank staff here...i'm looking for 30 years installment..let me know monthly installment
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Just estimate yr salary be4 deduction is RM 2.8k
and this house loan around RM 216k (90% margin) monthly installmet around RM RM 1200-1300

qualify for apply loan is 1/3 of your salary or 40% of your salary (some bank can up to 60%), but your situation should be ok for apply... depend on your other commitments eg: car and house.

Loan can get up to 90% only based on BNM rules of financing. If the market value higher than the purchase price u can markup the value eg 265k
(mean u can use the 265k for 90% loan) pls remember the SPA hav to follow the new price.

try to get for local bank loan, foreign bank approver a bit tight.
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I wanted to buy a second hand house. The owner is selling the house below market price. Its value is at 240k-250k, as mentioned due to few failed applicant who didnt manage to get the loan for that particular house. The owner was selling at 240k.
(i) Issit possible to mark up the loan?
(ii) What are the docs required to buy a second hand house
(iii) How do we apply to numerous number of bank at one time? Is the application process free of charge?
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i) it is not possible to mark up as the banks will do a valuation on the property, however if you purchase below the valuation rate then you can technically get close to 100% loan.
ii & iii) you can apply through us (NyLife) as we are mortgage brokers ie. all local & foreign banks are in our panel. There is no application fee. 1 application goes to all banks at once. Do let me know your email so that I can send you the loan details & checklist. Cheers.
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I got quite good package from Standchart.

1-5 years : blr-2%
onwards until completion for 30 years loan : blr-2.15%

TQ.
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I got quite good package from Standchart.

1-5 years : blr-2%
onwards until completion for 30 years loan : blr-2.15%

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What is the conversion of 1k for? is it for something like admin fees?
Are you still tied to UOB?
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I would like to know what is the "conversion of 1k" too... is it compulsory?
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Dec 30 2008, 09:05 PM)
i) it is not possible to mark up as the banks will do a valuation on the property, however if you purchase below the valuation rate then you can technically get close to 100% loan.
ii & iii) you can apply through us (NyLife) as we are mortgage brokers ie. all local & foreign banks are in our panel. There is no application fee. 1 application goes to all banks at once. Do let me know your email so that I can send you the loan details & checklist. Cheers.
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Danny,

I am just wondering how is your business like....are you paid by the banks or the applicant(if successful) or both?


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Added on January 7, 2009, 8:42 pmI am looking to re-finance a sizable home loan out from UOB bank. So for those mortgage agents that are monitoring this thread, I welcome you to pm me your packages.

minolta

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I'm looking for good interest rate for flexi house loan.
I'm from malaka and already pay the deposit to buy a Semi-D at rembia.
Properties Price:400k
Planning to Loan:200k - 250k
This is my first house so no exp. on house loan.
Currently StandardCharted offer -2.05BLR, can i apply to get higher rate?

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QUOTE(limlim78 @ Jan 10 2009, 12:30 PM)
I'm looking for good interest rate for flexi house loan.
I'm from malaka and already pay the deposit to buy a Semi-D at rembia.
Properties Price:400k
Planning to Loan:200k - 250k
This is my first house so no exp. on house loan.
Currently StandardCharted offer -2.05BLR, can i apply to get higher rate?
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You may check out http://www.money3.com.my
Its a portal with the latest homeloan packages from all banks.
If you are looking for flexi loan, try Alliace, currently offering BLR-2.2%
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QUOTE(Peace7 @ Jan 10 2009, 09:07 PM)
You may check out http://www.money3.com.my
Its a portal with the latest homeloan packages from all banks.
If you are looking for flexi loan, try Alliace, currently offering BLR-2.2%
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could anyone here please explain the difference between term loan+overdraft and flexi loan? what's the benefit of both package?
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could anyone here please explain the difference between term loan+overdraft and flexi loan? what's the benefit of both package?
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Well i'm not sure whether is your "term loan+overdraft" different from "flexi loan", cause it looks like the same to me... but i'll explain the different between term loan and flexi loan in general.

You may refer to this link for the my post.

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1) What is the difference between Term Loan and Flexi Loan in terms of interest calculation?
- There is not different in interest calculation between Term Loan and Flexi Loan actually, both runs under the same principal where interest is calculated base on your principal balance. Mortgage loan these days are mostly "daily rest" calculations. The different is more on the facilities of the package, which can be differ as below;

a) With a conventional term loan, you may be able to pay additional money to reduce your principal, unless it is stated other wise by your Letter Offer. However, standard conventional term loan doesn't allow you to withdraw that additional amount in case you need those in the future. Conventional term loan are pretty straight forward when it comes to interest calculations, cause what ever goes into the loan account stays there and figures are pretty easy to recognize. It's all in the statement.

b) Flexi Loan on the other hand has a current account attached to the loan account. (so there's actually 2 accounts) The deposit in that linked current account is consider an "off-set" to your principal. Example, if you have a RM 300k flexi loan, deposit RM 100k into your linked current account and the bank would calculate your interest based on the amount of RM 200k. That RM 100k would act as a principal reduction. And the best part is, you can use that deposit any time you want. (using it as any other current account). However, you might find a bit more difficult to identify the whole statement if you are not familiar with account (and numbers!)


Do give me a call if you wish to know more.


Regards,

Merce Chua
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019 - 913 1127
ChuaCChie@OCBC.com

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could anyone here please explain the difference between term loan+overdraft and flexi loan? what's the benefit of both package?
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Here's couple existing topic:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=555063&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=703776&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=725102&hl=
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/559259

And if we're talking about realestate.net.my, below is a couple of links.
QUOTE(b00n @ Nov 17 2007, 03:48 PM)
If you guys really wants to know more, I had previously engaged in a huge debate with some in realestate.com.my

There's one forumer there which I deem quite good in his analytic skills:
marxdean. Quite informational from him if you can understand his points:

http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.p...6651&highlight=
http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6445
http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.p...7555&highlight=
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Gosh I do miss this marxdean guy. Long time didn't see him there; thus I retired also.... A good devil's advocate.

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Danny,

      I am just wondering how is your business like....are you paid by the banks or the applicant(if successful) or both?
minolta


Added on January 7, 2009, 8:42 pmI am looking to re-finance a sizable home loan out from UOB bank. So for those mortgage agents that are monitoring this thread, I welcome you to pm me your packages.

minolta
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Hi,

We are paid by the banks only. There are no charges to applicants.

The advantage for being an intermediary is that we do not promote any particular bank as there are now more than 15 banks in our panel. The ultimate choice still belongs to the applicant. Within 3 working days (provided there are no missing documents or complications), you will be getting a pre-approved offer from the panel banks and you are free to choose the best rates in the market.

Other than this most of our staff are certified financial advisors. Besides Property financing we also have Business loans, grants, insurance advisory, investment, risk management, estate planning among others. You can also be assigned to a personal advisor should you need any help on other areas of financial advisory.

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danny,

you told me 3 days, but it has been more than a month since i passed all my financial documents to u and yet i still get no follow up from you or your company or your panel bank.



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Yes that is the normal case if there are no complications. Actually you did mention that the first bank that called regarding your refinancing is CIMB within 3 days with an offer of BLR - 1.85? As for the rest it may be due to complications with the balance 2.5% that your developer is not willing to release. I've checked with the office submission staff that they will try to chase for a solution to this issue by sometime this week or early next week.

I've also asked why there is so long delay in your case. According to our feedback the banks now are pushing to finish cases before the long holidays and the upcoming CNY. Those 100% problem free cases will be very fast, whereas if they come across any complications it will be addressed only after the 100% cases have been completed. Hope u can understand on this but rest assured the submission staff is still trying daily to expedite your matter.

There are also some feedbacks from other applicants who have successfully gotten their loan. From the pre-approved loan to the final process, how long it takes is also dependant upon a few issues :-

1) What type of property - landed will be faster than condos with strata title. Condos with strata title will be faster than condos without. Properties without title documentation will be subjected to land office submissions which is run by our beloved govt. This is where most of the delays come about as the land office are quite slow.

2) Actual average time from pre-approved to final stage (ie final approval & cash advance) = 1+ months (for cases with full documentation & no complications) to even 6 months (for cases without titles). So please take note on this as it applies across the board to all banks.

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which bank offers the best rate now for zero package?
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which bank offers the best rate now for zero package?
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Every bank and their agents would tell you they offer the best rate.
However, it is your responsibility to do research and compare for yourself.
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it is also based on case by case basis :-

1) amount of loan
2) type of property
3) credit profile of applicant

Another point to consider is the service.
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anyone know the latest rate for hsbc zero entry package?
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it is not fixed. Depending on loan rates <250k,500k+,1 mil+, which one are you looking at? HSBC is one our panels also. They are supposed to have good service.
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loan about > 200k < 250k, any idea what's the rate?
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Is it a new purchase or a refinance?
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how much salary need if i want take a loan 200k
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any bank agent here for housing loan?
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hi sifus/mortgage experts
i would like to ask if i could have a bank pre-approve a loan up to a certain amount for the purpose of buying an auction property? it would be nice as that would mean no need to fork out the remaining 90% by cash or worst case forfeit the 10% if i failed to secure a loan.

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Am going to refinance my property. Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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which bank that easy to approve mortgage loan?
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 22 2009, 08:27 PM)
Am going to refinance my property.  Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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Early penalty fees? Should try Harimau Bank.


Added on January 26, 2009, 5:13 pm
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hi sifus/mortgage experts
i would like to ask if i could have a bank pre-approve a loan up to a certain amount for the purpose of buying an auction property? it would be nice as that would mean no need to fork out the remaining 90% by cash or worst case forfeit the 10% if i failed to secure a loan.
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Word of advise, go to the Bank's branch and get to know the credit officer who will process your application.

Tell him you are interested in acquiring an auction property and need to check if you can apply for loan.

This way, if he/she say it is ok.. if any prob, go back to that person.

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i am looking to refinance my housing loan.

property is at opal damansara, 1140 square feet.

looking at either refinancing 260k, which is the outstanding amount + penalty, or the highest amount possible.

any bankers out there can tell me their margin of finance and best rates?

thanks!

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how much salary need if i want take a loan 200k
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hi sifus/mortgage experts
i would like to ask if i could have a bank pre-approve a loan up to a certain amount for the purpose of buying an auction property? it would be nice as that would mean no need to fork out the remaining 90% by cash or worst case forfeit the 10% if i failed to secure a loan.
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you need to provide the details of the property and your income. Thereafter you may get a verbal indication of how much loan you can get but it is also subject to final approval as banks do not approve loans when there is nothing concrete. The bank also will need to do a valuation on the property to ascertain the loan amount. For easy calculation here's some guide for 30 yr loan based on 4.35%:-

100k - RM497.81per month
150k - RM745.72 per month
200k - RM995.62 per month
250k - RM1244.53 per month

Just multiply the replayments per month x 3 and if your income is sufficient and there are no other major liabilities then that should be equivalent to your verbal approval amount.




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It is true that contract staff hard to get housing loan? If so, what need to be done to increase probability the loan getting aprroved.
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It is true that contract staff hard to get housing loan? If so, what need to be done to increase probability the loan getting aprroved.
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in a way true also lor!!! but if they dun want to give u....they can give 1001 excuses also....i believe like :-

1)u r contract stuff or ur company is sdn bhd lah, then ask 3 months then not enough want 6 then 12months payslip!!!
2)u should get married to get combine salary
3)can only give X-10% of ur wanted loan lah
4)prove ur FD,investment and blah blah!!! the investment must be like bond and low risk, high risk will be rejected!!
5)if u have car or personal loan or CC then they will say u use to much credit and blah blah

end story they want to give u loan but X-(5 to 10%)!!!X is amount of loan u want

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Hi all bank mortgage executives,
OPR has been slashed by 75 basis point about 2 weeks ago. Some bank had announced to cut BLR to 5.95%. What is the latest BLR by your bank? Thanks.
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also looking for loan now..
hv a query on full flexi loan, in case we withdraw back the extra payment we've made from our acc will it increase our principal.. not sure how current acc work..
anyonce care to advise..

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QUOTE(kucaixx @ Feb 2 2009, 01:15 AM)
also looking for loan now..
hv a query on full flexi loan, in case we withdraw back the extra payment we've made from our acc will it increase our principal.. not sure how current acc work..
anyonce care to advise..
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Refer back the links I posted back in: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=22903244
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Hi All Bank Mortage Executives,

I'm looking for flexi loan packages for a property I'm planning to purchase.
Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90%
Tenure : 30 Years

Please PM me with the packages you have. Thanks in advance.
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can anyone or banker, pls let me know what is the best interest rate for commercial property now ?

I have a shoplot, currently still under loan with Public bank, and the rate was BLR MINUS 0.95, loan amount 160k

Thanks very much.

P/S. IT IS A SHOPLOT (COMERCIAL PROPERTY)
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AFFIN BANK IS CURRENTLY OFFERING THE LOWEST BLR RATE WHICH IS 5,9 ONLY. ANOTHRE ADDED ADVANTAGE WOULD BE AFFIN BANK HAS THE LONGEST TENURE IN THE MARKET WHICH IS 45 YEARS OR UP TO THE AGE OF 75. THIS HELP TO LOWER DOEN THE MONTHLY INSTALLMENT AND YET REPAYMENT MADE FLEXIBLE.


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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 22 2009, 08:27 PM)
Am going to refinance my property.  Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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1)If you refinance your property, it is wise to do so after you have completed your lock in period which is usually 5 years. Otherwise a penalty will be charged as follows:
a) 5% of the loan taken if within 1st to 3rd year.
b) 5% of the loan taken if within 4th to 5th year.

2) In the event you are free from your lock in period, kindly advise the following details so I can advise your banefits & savings.

Current loan
- current outstanding amount with the current bank
- years paid
- current monthly repayment
- do you have MRTA
- current interest rate for the loan package

Features for the future loan
- with or without zero moving cost?
- tenure wanted?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


Added on February 5, 2009, 9:55 pm
QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 22 2009, 08:27 PM)
Am going to refinance my property.  Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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1)If you refinance your property, it is wise to do so after you have completed your lock in period which is usually 5 years. Otherwise a penalty will be charged as follows:
a) 5% of the loan taken if within 1st to 3rd year.
b) 5% of the loan taken if within 4th to 5th year.

2) In the event you are free from your lock in period, kindly advise the following details so I can advise your banefits & savings.

Current loan
- current outstanding amount with the current bank
- years paid
- current monthly repayment
- do you have MRTA
- current interest rate for the loan package

Features for the future loan
- with or without zero moving cost?
- tenure wanted?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


Added on February 5, 2009, 9:57 pm
QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 22 2009, 08:27 PM)
Am going to refinance my property.  Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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1)If you refinance your property, it is wise to do so after you have completed your lock in period which is usually 5 years. Otherwise a penalty will be charged as follows:
a) 5% of the loan taken if within 1st to 3rd year.
b) 5% of the loan taken if within 4th to 5th year.

2) In the event you are free from your lock in period, kindly advise the following details so I can advise your banefits & savings.

Current loan
- current outstanding amount with the current bank
- years paid
- current monthly repayment
- do you have MRTA
- current interest rate for the loan package

Features for the future loan
- with or without zero moving cost?
- tenure wanted?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


Added on February 5, 2009, 10:04 pm
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Hi All Bank Mortage Executives,

I'm looking for flexi loan packages for a property I'm planning to purchase.
Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90%
Tenure : 30 Years

Please PM me with the packages you have. Thanks in advance.
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In order for me to furnish you with most accurate information, kindly advise me the following details so I can present to you what I can offer and the benefits and value you get in return

- what is the max and min margin of finance you are looking for ?
- what is the max and min tenure you are looking for ?
- current age?
- do you want to take MRTA?
- with or without zero moving cost?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


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QUOTE(johnsonm @ Jan 28 2009, 04:19 PM)
i am looking to refinance my housing loan.

property is at opal damansara, 1140 square feet.

looking at either refinancing 260k, which is the outstanding amount + penalty, or the highest amount possible.

any bankers out there can tell me their margin of finance and best rates?

thanks!
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At Affin bank we are offereing the lowest BLR in the market which is 5.9. In addition we also offer the longest tenure in the market.

1)If you refinance your property, it is wise to do so after you have completed your lock in period which is usually 5 years. Otherwise a penalty will be charged as follows:
a) 5% of the loan taken if within 1st to 3rd year.
b) 5% of the loan taken if within 4th to 5th year.

2) In the event you are free from your lock in period or willing to consume the penalty, kindly advise the following details so I can advise your benefits & savings.

Current loan
- current outstanding amount with the current bank
- years paid
- current monthly repayment
- do you have MRTA
- current interest rate for the loan package

Features for the future loan
- with or without zero moving cost?
- tenure wanted?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


Added on February 5, 2009, 10:09 pm
QUOTE(a6meister @ Feb 5 2009, 02:06 PM)
can anyone or banker, pls let me know what is the best interest rate for commercial property now ?

I have a shoplot, currently still under loan with Public bank, and the rate was BLR MINUS 0.95, loan amount 160k

Thanks very much.

P/S. IT IS A SHOPLOT (COMERCIAL PROPERTY)
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1)If you refinance your property, it is wise to do so after you have completed your lock in period which is usually 5 years. Otherwise a penalty will be charged as follows:
a) 5% of the loan taken if within 1st to 3rd year.
b) 5% of the loan taken if within 4th to 5th year.

2) In the event you are free from your lock in period, kindly advise the following details so I can advise your banefits & savings.

Current loan
- current outstanding amount with the current bank
- years paid
- current monthly repayment
- do you have MRTA
- current interest rate for the loan package

Features for the future loan
- with or without zero moving cost?
- tenure wanted?
- monthly repayment amount approximately?
- any other benefits you are looking at?


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public bank BLR now 5.95% smile.gif

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Yes you are right I got a call from public bank also they are the first bank to reply our clients after CNY. At this point of time most of our panel banks are very competive. The next criteria will be on the bank's service when you can't distinguish one from the other.

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AFFIN BANK'S OFFER
If your 35 years old at this point:
Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90% = RM 684,000.00
Tenure : 30 Years
Free Moving Cost : Yes
MRTA : No
Package with FMC : BLR (5.9) - 1.9

Note: If letter of offer is signed and returned to the banl within 3 working days, you can enjoy BLR-2 for the 1st 3 years.
Monthly repayment : RM 3266

If your 35 years old at this point: At we offer the longest tenure max 45 years or up to age 75
Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90% = RM 684,000.00
Max Tenure : 40 Years
Free Moving Cost : Yes
MRTA : No
Package with FMC : BLR (5.9) - 1.9
Note: If letter of offer is signed and returned to the banl within 3 working days, you can enjoy BLR-2 for the 1st 3 years.
Monthly repayment : RM 2859

If your 35 years old at this point:
Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90% = RM 684,000.00
Tenure : 30 Years
[B]Free Moving Cost : No[/B]
MRTA : No
Package with FMC : BLR (5.9) - 2.1
Note: If letter of offer is signed and returned to the banl within 3 working days, you can enjoy BLR-2.2 for the 1st 3 years.
Monthly repayment : RM 3188

Properties Price: 760k
Planning to Loan: 90% = RM 684,000.00
Tenure : 40 Years
[B]Free Moving Cost : No[/B]
MRTA : No
Package with FMC : BLR (5.9) - 2.1
Note: If letter of offer is signed and returned to the banl within 3 working days, you can enjoy BLR-2.2 for the 1st 3 years.
Monthly repayment : RM 2775


Added on February 6, 2009, 6:58 pm
QUOTE(johnsonm @ Jan 28 2009, 04:19 PM)
i am looking to refinance my housing loan.

property is at opal damansara, 1140 square feet.

looking at either refinancing 260k, which is the outstanding amount + penalty, or the highest amount possible.

any bankers out there can tell me their margin of finance and best rates?

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We at AFFIN Bank offers good and attractive benefits for our customers. Currently we are offering the lowest BLR (5.9) in the market. We also offer the longest tenure in the market 40 years or up to the age of 75.

Penalty charges for early full settlement or refinance are as follows: Most banks lock in period is 5 years.

1st to the 3rd year : 5% of the loan amount taken

4th to the 5th year : 3% of the loan amount taken

Current package : BLR (5.9) - 1.9
If letter of offer is signed & sent back to the bank with 3 working days, then you can enjoy BLR-2 ( for first 3 yrs)

Assuming your age is 35 this year
With FMC, No MRTA
Refinance amount 260,000
Monthly repayment: 1242 for 30 yrs
Monthly repayment: 1087 for 40 yrs





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Hi People,

I'm goin to buy a used condo unit worth 142k. If I put 20% d/p, cimb bank offer me BLR (5.95)-1.95 for 30years tenure. That said, my monthly repayment is about RM560 inclusive of legal fees.

I was wondering normally how much is the legal fees? I mean, the cost to hire a lawyer to do the S&P agreement...Addition to this, what other 'hidden costs' that I need to pay during the purchasing process?

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Hi People,

I'm goin to buy a used condo unit worth 142k. If I put 20% d/p, cimb bank offer me BLR (5.95)-1.95 for 30years tenure. That said, my monthly repayment is about RM560 inclusive of legal fees.

I was wondering normally how much is the legal fees? I mean, the cost to hire a lawyer to do the S&P agreement...Addition to this, what other 'hidden costs' that I need to pay during the purchasing process?

Thanks in advance!  notworthy.gif
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For loan amount less than RM 150k, best prepare around RM 3000 for SPA agreement.

and probably another RM 3000 for Loan agreement if you are taking non Zero Moving Cost.

There's a table for reference actually, as SPA and Loan agreement is charged based on percentage of the loan amount and transaction price. but i dont have the chart with me at the moment.

other hidden cost? depending on bank actually. some have some doesnt. Ask the bank officer who's attending you about any other charges on your loan package and write it down.

If its a condo then probably you'll have to take note about the Memorandum of Transfer, the charges of strata title if its yet to be issued. that will cost you a few thousand as well, but only when its has been issued. best check with the seller on this matter.

thats all i can think at the moment.

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hi all,

will 0.1 or 0.2% diff in interest rate make much diff on u'r payment for a loan of around rm250k.
let say, this is for own stay and no extra payment been made for 30 yrs tenure.
any advise?
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That's around RM20+- for each month. In long term, they are RM20x12x30 = RM7000+- For my advice, need to depends on the bank's term & conditions provided before you choosing a service.
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is public bank have good package?

my property price = rm 234,682.40
90% loan = rm 211,214.16
got up to 40 years
BLR - 1.8 (blr = 5.95)
zero moving cost
lock in 5 years
flexi
reduce the principle if pay more <-----------need detail

the banker calculate my installment is rm 916 (including mrta up to 20 years)

is this ok? i hope everyone can give opinion about this.
and i heard public bank got many hidden charges.is it true?

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Affin installment based on your information : RM 844 = (Assuming max tenure 45 years)
You can save up to RM 72 a month, RM 864 a year & RM 38880 for 45 years.

Affin installment based on your information : RM 883 = (Assuming max tenure 40 years)
You can save up to RM 33 a month, RM 396 a year & RM 15840 for 45 years.

In addition we also have the flexi repayment benefir as well.

For more details contact me at visa1288@yahoo.c.uk



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how about the facilities to reduce the principle?
is it ZMC or Non-ZMC
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Amazing new knockout rates from AIA at 4.99% Fixed entire tenure!

Check out the link below for more info.

http://realestate.net.my/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10154
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anyone can give opinion about graduate home loan from OCBC?
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I have most of the popular banks in malaysia under my portfolio so I can help you choose the bank that best suits your needs. If anyone is interested or have any enquiries on housing loan or shop loan you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 (Theresa). Cheers!
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QUOTE(Ddaniell @ Feb 16 2009, 09:41 PM)
is public bank have good package?

my property price = rm 234,682.40
90% loan = rm 211,214.16
got up to 40 years
BLR - 1.8 (blr = 5.95)
zero moving cost
lock in 5 years
flexi
reduce the principle if pay more <-----------need detail

the banker calculate my installment is rm 916 (including mrta up to 20 years)

is this ok? i hope everyone can give opinion about this.
and i heard public bank got many hidden charges.is it true?

thanks
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PBB is one of my bankers.

IMHO - that package above is no longer competitive.

1. If i'm not wrong, that product is a plain vanilla flexi homeloan. It's not a Mortgage One or Savelink variant from SCB or ABMB. In other words - it does not have a Savings / Current Account offset feature. So no biggie.

2. Nothing great about -1.8% if rates is what you're looking for. Some banks can go up to -2.2% ZEC and -2.4% non ZEC.

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which bank offer that rate?
maybe the bank still not reduce the BLR to 5.95...
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I intend to refinance my apartment which i bought at RM149,000. Now having 30year loan with ambank and paying RM861 monthly. The loan agreement was in August 2004. Do i have to pay panelty which was 3.5% or RM8000 whichever higher. Is it worth moving. What is the benefit i get in term of shorter loan period if i move to other bank as the current interest ambank charge is BLR +1.5%. Please advise. Thanks.
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phoeni_142

which bank offer that rate?
maybe the bank still not reduce the BLR to 5.95...
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which bank offer that rate?
maybe the bank still not reduce the BLR to 5.95...
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BLR - 2% is very common, as stated by another forumer, blr - 2.4 even exist.

which bank ?

based on my current situation, i have 2 housing loan, one from standard chartered and another from public bank, both are blr - 2%, which is 3.95%

These are house loan.

If commercial property, such as shoplot, the interest is different, which higher.
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QUOTE(a6meister @ Feb 20 2009, 12:01 AM)
BLR - 2% is very common, as stated by another forumer, blr - 2.4 even exist.

which bank ?

based on my current situation, i have 2 housing loan, one from standard chartered and another from public bank, both are blr - 2%, which is 3.95%

These are house loan.

If commercial property, such as shoplot, the interest is different, which higher.
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1. Is your SCB homeloan a standard conventional or Mortgage One? Same question for your PB loan

2. When was your loan approved?


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QUOTE(a6meister @ Feb 20 2009, 12:01 AM)
BLR - 2% is very common, as stated by another forumer, blr - 2.4 even exist.

which bank ?

based on my current situation, i have 2 housing loan, one from standard chartered and another from public bank, both are blr - 2%, which is 3.95%

These are house loan.

If commercial property, such as shoplot, the interest is different, which higher.
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Bank Harimau offer BLR -2.2% to -2.4%. BUT only applicable to 'Prime Area' - property worth RM250k and above.
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I have some advice for those who want to re-finance their properties: -



Step 1: Get the full details of your current loan(most don't keep track of the current status of their loans)...ie...loan still left, initial amount, date lock in period finishes, penalty clause, current effective interest rate, date first drawdown, your re-payment history, etc.

Step 2: Check the current offerings from the banks...both local and foreign banks. Don't need to check all banks as rates changes so fast with new packages etc. Just a general feel will do.

Step 3: Write to your current bank DEMANDING a revision of interest rate. Be very business like in your letter. Straight to the point. Say something about your payment history(if its good) and about current economic slowdown and about the competitive rates offered by Competitor...you can put down some examples from competitor banks. Then you demand a revision of a rate that is "reflective" of current interest rates in the industry.

Step 4: Wait for your letter of reply from the bank. You will almost always get a favourable reply if the banks still want your business.....that means you should have been a good customer with good repayment history.

Step 5: With the new offer in hand from your existing bank, you do your evaluation. You see, whatever they offer has pros and cons. They WILL NEVER offer you a BLR -2.2% for example if you're still in lock in period. Maybe BLR -1.6% or something(which is not bad as you do not have to pay any penalty or redo loan agreement). This is because they know its not cheap for you to refinance out as you have to pay penalty and redo loan agreement(need lawyer). Meaning you have to pay money out now to enjoy an interest saving in the long run.....you really have to evaluate.

Step 6: Bring that letter of offer to other banks and ask them to give you an offer....you should go for a bank with offer of ZEC + payment of penalty(right now, I know of only Maybank and EON bank that do it). They will definitely try to give you a better offer than the one your current bank offers....if possible. You need to be fast as the offer letter has a time limit to it! But most banks can give you an offer within 48h

Step 7: Your call. Proceed with the bank that you're happiest with or with the most attractive package.


cheers,
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MortgageOne Flexi Home Loan (ZEC)
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P/S: For Flexi loan, the above rate is still can be negotiable depend on the loan amount and loan tenure. Please contact me if have any enquiries.
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Can i get loan for buying low cost apartment at Ipoh for Rm25k only?
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Looking for loan 20k with 10 years.

What document i need to support?

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If anybody is interested in conventional loan, I have a bank in hand that can offer Yr1-5 less than BLR-1.9, TA less than BLR-2.1.

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Hi all, need advise on home loan for completed property as below. Tq

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Property value - rm215,000
Looking for min 90% loan
Tenure for 30yrs
ZEC or non-ZEC, depend on the rate
Allow prepayment
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Hi all, need advise on home loan for completed property as below. Tq

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Property value - rm215,000
Looking for min 90% loan
Tenure for 30yrs
ZEC or non-ZEC, depend on the rate
Allow prepayment
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Hi kucaixx,


Property Value - RM 215000
Loan amount - RM 193500 (90%)
Tenure - 30 years
Interest Rate - BLR -1.80% (ZMC) / BLR -2.00% (nZMC)
Loan account - Semi-flexi
Installment - RM 941.00 (based on BLR at 5.95 and interest rate of BLR-1.80%)

Semi-flexi allows you to do prepayment without notice, however for OCBC my advise to inform them what kind of prepayment you wish to proceed. Cause we have 2 types of approach, 1 withdrawable and the other not.

Give me a call if you need further details and i'll see what i can help you with.


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hi, izzit posibble to get full flexi loan for loan below 100k, let say 75k loan?
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hi, izzit posibble to get full flexi loan for loan below 100k, let say 75k loan?
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Yes. But it will be at NZC.


Added on March 2, 2009, 12:30 am
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Hi all, need advise on home loan for completed property as below. Tq

Details
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Property value - rm215,000
Looking for min 90% loan
Tenure for 30yrs
ZEC or non-ZEC, depend on the rate
Allow prepayment
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It depends on how long it will take for you to clear off your loan. If by using prepayment it takes you >20yrs(rough estimate) to clear off, Std Chart would be better with the rate @ Yr1-Yr5 BLR-1.65%, TA BLR-2%. If <20 years @ 1.85% it would be CIMB for flexi.

Think Ambank came up with some good rates. However i need to check on that. Think they have allot of hidden cost too. shocking.gif

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Hi driedice, which bank will provide for full flexi loan below 100k, nonzec is fine as long as the interest rate is competitive. normally is blr -what? tyty
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Hi driedice, which bank will provide for full flexi loan below 100k, nonzec is fine as long as the interest rate is competitive. normally is blr -what? tyty
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So far I've seen Std Chart seems to be the best. Min loan 45k, flexi loan, BLR-2%

The other bank's best rate is @ BLR-1.45%


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well it depends - u can get -2.1% for less than 100K as well, for a conventional loan in SCB.

but pls bear in mind - it's not a pure flexi loan. Only MortgageOne should be classified as a pure flexi. And unfortunately, they don't charge that cheap.
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well it depends - u can get -2.1% for less than 100K as well, for a conventional loan in SCB.

but pls bear in mind - it's not a pure flexi loan.  Only MortgageOne should be classified as a pure flexi.  And unfortunately, they don't charge that cheap.
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Well like i said in my previous post. For full lexi which is MortgageOne, minimum loan amount is 45k @ BLR-2% Non-Zero Cost.
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 2 2009, 05:45 PM)
well it depends - u can get -2.1% for less than 100K as well, for a conventional loan in SCB.

but pls bear in mind - it's not a pure flexi loan.  Only MortgageOne should be classified as a pure flexi.  And unfortunately, they don't charge that cheap.
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is that mean hsbc homesmart not fully flexi?
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Anyone knows what's the best rate for full flexi loan and which bank offers it?
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is that mean hsbc homesmart not fully flexi?
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Anyone knows what's the best rate for full flexi loan and which bank offers it?
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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 3 2009, 11:00 AM)
No. I think he was giving an example on full flexi loan. If I am not mistaken, HSBC is also a flexi loan. But then again, some banks do offer only semi- flexi loans.


Added on March 3, 2009, 11:02 am

My dear, your question is too general. What amount are you looking at? Different amount will have different rate.
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I'm talking about a bank that offers the "best rate" so which one has the lowest amount of lending rate and has full flexi features. The value of my property is 400K.
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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 2 2009, 05:28 PM)
So far I've seen Std Chart seems to be the best. Min loan 45k, flexi loan, BLR-2%

The other bank's best rate is @ BLR-1.45%
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Hi, scb -2% other then the interest any other fees i need to be aware of? like monthly rm10 maintainence fees or sort of?
how is the ksbc 1 works? tyty

My intended loan is about 75k only.
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Hi, when refinancing, if it's free moving cost, is it really free? What sort of hidden fees could there be?

I'm looking at refinancing my condo at RM136,000 loan. Currently with SCBMB MortgageOne at 6.75% interest, will prefer conventional loans becos don't understand how they calculate the flexi loans. I've been with this loan for few years and only manage to knock off like 5K from my principal (taking into account BLR went up during these few years).
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Mar 4 2009, 12:38 AM)
Hi, when refinancing, if it's free moving cost, is it really free?  What sort of hidden fees could there be? 
Normally it's really FREE smile.gif There might be some exceptions though but most of them, you don't have to pay anything.
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Mar 4 2009, 12:38 AM)
Hi, when refinancing, if it's free moving cost, is it really free?  What sort of hidden fees could there be? 

I'm looking at refinancing my condo at RM136,000 loan.  Currently with SCBMB MortgageOne at 6.75% interest, will prefer conventional loans becos don't understand how they calculate the flexi loans.  I've been with this loan for few years and only manage to knock off like 5K from my principal (taking into account BLR went up during these few years).
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Hi Danny,

As per your 1st question, free moving cost is totally free. The only hidden fee is the bank service itself. It could be charges on every transaction or after a number of transaction or something like that.

As for MortgageOne or Flexi Loans, it actually helps you save in interest.

You won't see any difference if you keep paying the the exact amount of monthly installment. You won't even see any difference if you pay additional RM10 on top of your monthly installment (but it does affect it, just not that significant).

The only obvious savings you can see is if your loan is 136k and you pay a huge sum of money like RM50k or more to actually see clearly that you ARE saving. The most obvious experiment is if you have 136k, you dump 136k you will see that no interest is charged. blink.gif

As for your BLR @ 6.75%, the bank will revise it to the latest. Currently SCB is still at BLR5.95% but they will be announcing the latest BLR soon.

If you are still interested in refinancing, you can give me a call @ 0123871138 and perhaps we can look into a few banks for the best interest rate.

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 4 2009, 01:43 AM)
Hi Danny,

As per your 1st question, free moving cost is totally free. The only hidden fee is the bank service itself. It could be charges on every transaction or after a number of transaction or something like that.

As for MortgageOne or Flexi Loans, it actually helps you save in interest.

You won't see any difference if you keep paying the the exact amount of monthly installment. You won't even see any difference if you pay additional RM10 on top of your monthly installment (but it does affect it, just not that significant).

The only obvious savings you can see is if your loan is 136k and you pay a huge sum of money like RM50k or more to actually see clearly that you ARE saving. The most obvious experiment is if you have 136k, you dump 136k you will see that no interest is charged.  blink.gif

As for your BLR @ 6.75%, the bank will revise it to the latest. Currently SCB is still at BLR5.95% but they will be announcing the latest BLR soon.

If you are still interested in refinancing, you can give me a call @ 0123871138 and perhaps we can look into a few banks for the best interest rate.
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Hi,

FYI currently BLR in SCB=5.55% effective on 3rd March 2009
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is the scb full flexi loan 5.55% as well, then it will be 5.55-2% = 3.55 for full flexi loan?
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is the scb full flexi loan 5.55% as well, then it will be 5.55-2% = 3.55 for full flexi loan?
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Yes.. But not every loan size can get B-2%. If Non ZEC for sure can get B-2% min 40k loan for full flexi package
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i am doing nzec. for 75k
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how long it takes to receive the loan instruction letter from bank? so that lawyer can prepare the loan agreement. been waiting for ages..
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Yes.. But not every loan size can get B-2%. If Non ZEC for sure can get B-2% min 40k loan for full flexi package
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ok.. pass me your document then i proceed the loan application for you... but u have to sign the application form for me.


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how long it takes to receive the loan instruction letter from bank? so that lawyer can prepare the loan agreement. been waiting for ages..
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which is depends ur taking which bank offered.. for SCB will be take some times if ur property is completed property because we issue LI must tally with CV(certificate of valuation),Stamped SPA and RM200 set up fee being transfered(mortgageone package). To get CV from valuer normally take about 1 week... Stamped SPA is very hard to estimate the time because purchaser and vendor both have to sign only the lawyer can stamp it.

Are u taking SCB housing loan? Mayb i can help u something to check on wat is the current situation?

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Hi, scb -2% other then the interest any other fees i need to be aware of? like monthly rm10 maintainence fees or sort of?
how is the ksbc 1 works? tyty

My intended loan is about 75k only.
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For your info:

All flexi loans have a set up fee of RM200 and maintainance fee of RM10. Banks can call it whatever fees but you have to pay the RM200 and monthly RM10. So this applies to SCB's flexi loan too.
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oh ok, so monthly only rm10 extra on top of the interest, any charge for witdrawal?
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which bank offer the best rate for refinance above 100k, with ZEC & not compulsary MRTA
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For your info:

All flexi loans have a set up fee of RM200 and maintainance fee of RM10. Banks can call it whatever fees but you have to pay the RM200 and monthly RM10. So this applies to SCB's flexi loan too.
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i don't think hsbc has the setup fee. any advise?

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oh ok, so monthly only rm10 extra on top of the interest, any charge for witdrawal?
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RM200 one-time set up fees (pay upon signing LO)

No withdrawal fee... Mortgageone is fully flexi...


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which bank offer the best rate for refinance above 100k, with ZEC & not compulsary MRTA
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Flexi or conventional? Most banks now don't make MRTA compulsory.


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oh ok, so monthly only rm10 extra on top of the interest, any charge for witdrawal?
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Withdrawal as in? When do you withdraw. After signing letter of offer? After disbursement?


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i don't think hsbc has the setup fee. any advise?
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Are you sure? No RM200 charge to open the current acc?

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Are you sure? No RM200 charge to open the current acc?
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the last time i checked CIMB islamic has a flexi package that doesn't require RM200 start up fee nor RM10 maintenance. and the penalty is 3% from the remaining outstanding loan, not from total loan amount.


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Are you sure? No RM200 charge to open the current acc?
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the last time i checked CIMB islamic has a flexi package that doesn't require RM200 start up fee nor RM10 maintenance. and the penalty is 3% from the remaining outstanding loan, not from total loan amount.
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Yup. That is only for Islamic. Their flexi package gives you profits as well..
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To all bankers out there. I am exploring other options again, other than my regular bankers.

I am an investor with more than 4 properties in my CCRIS. I need 90% margin of financing. I am not interested in anything less than 90% financing. My repayment record is clean, and my debt to income ratio is very healthy.

PM me to let me know what I need to do to give your credit processing units a level of comfort.

If u can tell me the ways of securing my 90% financing - i'd be most interested in doing business with you. Feel free to PM me.

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Hi dried ice, like 1 time withdraw need to be charge any amoutn of fees? it would be nice if some one can draft how much i would be charge est.
Loan amount and NZec. any fees need to be aware of.
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Hi dried ice, like 1 time withdraw need to be charge any amoutn of fees? it would be nice if some one can draft how much i would be charge est.
Loan amount and NZec. any fees need to be aware of.
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For the withdrawal part, its usually called hidden charges. Some banks have it once you've done past 5 transactions in a month or something like tht. If you are interested you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 and i'll come up with all the legal cost and monthly installment for you.


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To all bankers out there.  I am exploring other options again, other than my regular bankers.

I am an investor with more than 4 properties in my CCRIS.  I need 90% margin of financing.  I am not interested in anything less than 90% financing.  My repayment record is clean, and my debt to income ratio is very healthy.

PM me to let me know what I need to do to give your credit processing units a level of comfort. 

If u can tell me the ways of securing my 90% financing - i'd be most interested in doing business with you.  Feel free to PM me.

thanks.
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FD's or other source of income would help. Normally the bank would prefer you to open an FD with them.

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 7 2009, 06:03 PM)
For the withdrawal part, its usually called hidden charges. Some banks have it once you've done past 5 transactions in a month or something like tht. If you are interested you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 and i'll come up with all the legal cost and monthly installment for you.


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FD's or other source of income would help. Normally the bank would prefer you to open an FD with them.
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Yes, I know that, chief. Obviously, I need the specifics - e.g. FD amount to be 1/3 loan exposure? FD / UT / Stcoks that are 24 x of your installments? Each bank varies in terms of their deviation approvals. I'm suprised that most bankers (those that I've met anyway) - can't give me any specifics.....
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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 7 2009, 06:03 PM)
For the withdrawal part, its usually called hidden charges. Some banks have it once you've done past 5 transactions in a month or something like tht. If you are interested you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 and i'll come up with all the legal cost and monthly installment for you.


Added on March 7, 2009, 6:06 pm

FD's or other source of income would help. Normally the bank would prefer you to open an FD with them.
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DriedIce, you are banker? yes will give you acall, later and how to address you?
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 8 2009, 01:10 AM)
Yes, I know that, chief.  Obviously, I need the specifics - e.g. FD amount to be 1/3 loan exposure? FD / UT / Stcoks that are 24 x of your installments? Each bank varies in terms of their deviation approvals.  I'm suprised that most bankers (those that I've met anyway) - can't give me any specifics.....
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For FD would be about half your loan size or less. Did a case before they requested half the loan size for as the person was still under probation and the 2nd applicant was too old.

So in your case 1/3 the loan size would be sufficient if you are employed.

Most bankers can't give you the specific as they prefer it if you can give more docs the better for them. No need to go through the hassle of appeal and all that..


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DriedIce, you are banker? yes will give you acall, later and how to address you?
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No. Used to be a banker. Now I'm a mortgage broker. I help ppl look for the best loan rate in town instead of them going through the hassle of bank shopping. And you can address me as Theresa.

Thx.

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 10 2009, 12:24 AM)
For FD would be about half your loan size or less. Did a case before they requested half the loan size for as the person was still under probation and the 2nd applicant was too old.

So in your case 1/3 the loan size would be sufficient if you are employed.

Most bankers can't give you the specific as they prefer it if you can give more docs the better for them. No need to go through the hassle of appeal and all that..


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Well, I need the specifics to prepare the additional doc's, dont' I?

anyway - thanks for the interesting conversation.
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 10 2009, 08:47 AM)
Well, I need the specifics to prepare the additional doc's, dont' I?

anyway - thanks for the interesting conversation.
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hahahha, I share your frustrations mate!! I tell you, if I get a penny for one "tactics" they use...

which is why I now have "pre-packaged" documents ready to be given to banks, but hassle la to keep updating them everytime I change jobs, increase/decrease FD etc. All evidence to show my numbers are good. Still with all these if they see your commitment is too high (even though you income is superb!), they still ask for 50% of FD la, RM100k of purchase of other services etc. There is one bank, which will DISREGARD CCRISS if you put 50% of money in FD smile.gif.

Oh, btw, there are many banks who will disregard your other commitment (ie your properties financed by other banks). This is one of the "loopholes" I took full advantage of earlier. Not sure if it's still the same now...
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Oh, btw, there are many banks who will disregard your other commitment (ie your properties financed by other banks). This is one of the "loopholes" I took full advantage of earlier. Not sure if it's still the same now...
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interesting? Which FI is this? smile.gif
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interesting? Which FI is this?  smile.gif
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Pai & MeeJawa - I think it's time we met up to discuss all loopholes.

I find the 50% FD rule which disregard CCRIS a bit hard to believe - but hey - the more "loopholes" the better.

The amount of "extra" documentation which I have in my house is now ridiculously high.

Different banks have different treatments of giving 90% margin to investors with more than 4 prop's. And it's perplexing that bankers (those I've met) are very vague.

I think Pai even discovered one which still gives 90% irregardless on how many number of prop's u own!

Pre-packaging can be easier - if we know all the "rules of thumbs" which bankers use. That way, I'll be able to standardize my documentation pack.....

So - what say u all? PM for timing and details?


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There is one bank, which will DISREGARD CCRISS if you put 50% of money in FD smile.gif.


actually if u put 50% FD ur margin is at 40% or less already. majority of the bank wouldnt mind loosen their guideline a little more since the risk assessment for them has been lower by a huge margin.

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Oh, btw, there are many banks who will disregard your other commitment (ie your properties financed by other banks). This is one of the "loopholes" I took full advantage of earlier. Not sure if it's still the same now...


all Housing loan will appear in ur CCRIS... and i hate to break the bubbles, but the only housing loan that wont appear on CCRIS is the housing loan that isnt finance by any bank... go figure icon_idea.gif

and they have quite some high interest rates there...

So pratically, they have your record regardless where u go.


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I think Pai even discovered one which still gives 90% irregardless on how many number of prop's u own!


Psst~ Pai... pm me the details. xD

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 10 2009, 12:24 AM)
For FD would be about half your loan size or less. Did a case before they requested half the loan size for as the person was still under probation and the 2nd applicant was too old.

So in your case 1/3 the loan size would be sufficient if you are employed.

Most bankers can't give you the specific as they prefer it if you can give more docs the better for them. No need to go through the hassle of appeal and all that..


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No. Used to be a banker. Now I'm a mortgage broker. I help ppl look for the best loan rate in town instead of them going through the hassle of bank shopping. And you can address me as Theresa.

Thx.
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i have loan from RHB RM120,000 since 1999..
the last statement i received, i still have balance RM123,XXX..
every months i pay is RM1030 (previously was RM967, one year ago)..
i still have 200 months to go..
why my balance more than the time i loan..

i heard if refinance can help me to save some money, is it true..
since i don't have time to go to bank..
so trying to get some information from here..
may be i can get some helpful information from some professional here..
thanks in advance..
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i have loan from RHB RM120,000 since 1999..
the last statement i received, i still have balance RM123,XXX..
every months i pay is RM1030 (previously was RM967, one year ago)..
i still have 200 months to go..
why my balance more than the time i loan..

i heard if refinance can help me to save some money, is it true..
since i don't have time to go to bank..
so trying to get some information from here..
may be i can get some helpful information from some professional here..
thanks in advance..
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Your account balance should reduced accordingly, if it is now RM123K... something is amiss.

Check with your Banker in RHB first before deciding to REFINANCE.

Maybe you are being overcharged or something.. need to check it out.

Once you REFINANCE, doubt they will check it out for you.
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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Mar 18 2009, 10:27 PM)
Your account balance should reduced accordingly, if it is now RM123K... something is amiss.

Check with your Banker in RHB first before deciding to REFINANCE.

Maybe you are being overcharged or something.. need to check it out.

Once you REFINANCE, doubt they will check it out for you.
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thanks..today go to bank and check it out..


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thanks..today go to bank and check it out..
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come back from the home branch..ask the officer,but he didn't give any answer, just ask me to write a letter for revise the interest rate..the rest what ever i ask, the answer is "not confirm, just wait the approval from bank" what is the new rate i may have, "cannot confirm, just wait until the approval come out"


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thanks..today go to bank and check it out..


Added on March 19, 2009, 9:09 pm
come back from the home branch..ask the officer,but he didn't give any answer, just ask me to write a letter for revise the interest rate..the rest what ever i ask, the answer is "not confirm, just wait the approval from bank" what is the new rate i may have, "cannot confirm, just wait until the approval come out"
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Lol. It's either that comment or they shoot a rate at you then say "subjected to management approval" Bankers line biggrin.gif I suggest you start shopping with other banks as well.
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hi guys, what are the latest offer from those insurance companies for Fixed rate home loan? AIA still offering 4.99%? i heard ING is offering lower fixed rate. anyone can advise? tqtq
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hi guys, what are the latest offer from those insurance companies for Fixed rate home loan? AIA still offering 4.99%? i heard ING is offering lower fixed rate. anyone can advise? tqtq
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4.99% frm AIA is NZMC, for ZC its 5.29% if i'm not mistaken.
ING NZMC= 4.85%, ZC= 5.25%
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Dear forumers,

I am in need of financial advices now. Recently, my dad has been having financial difficulties and now is thinking of mortgaging the house as a collateral.

My question is, what are the requirements for securing a 100k loan from bank? How long would be the loan period and interest rate?
I am not sure about this though.

The house that would be mortgaged is not under any previous loan, mortgages or anything. It's owned by my dad and it's a double storey terrace.

If the house could be mortgaged, what are the requirements and which bank would be suitable for my dad to apply?

Thanks.

If there's any questions or inquiries, please ask me more as I am new to this thing.

Edit: Is there any other way to secure a 100k loans without mortgage? I am not sure. If there is, please provide more information about it.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(Hikaru Kenshin @ Mar 25 2009, 07:21 PM)
Dear forumers,

I am in need of financial advices now. Recently, my dad has been having financial difficulties and now is thinking of mortgaging the house as a collateral.

My question is, what are the requirements for securing a 100k loan from bank? How long would be the loan period and interest rate?
I am not sure about this though.

The house that would be mortgaged is not under any previous loan, mortgages or anything. It's owned by my dad and it's a double storey terrace.

If the house could be mortgaged, what are the requirements and which bank would be suitable for my dad to apply?

Thanks.

If there's any questions or inquiries, please ask me more as I am new to this thing.

Edit: Is there any other way to secure a 100k loans without mortgage? I am not sure. If there is, please provide more information about it.

Thanks.
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Refering mainly to just mortgage, the requirements depends on your father's age, whether he is still working or is he a sole proprietor...
The loan period will be either 65 years or 30 years which ever comes 1st.
Interest rates vary from bank to bank. But it should be around BLR-1.75%

If your dad is interested in mortgage he will have to decide what package to choose. Whether to go for Flexi loan of Term Loan or FMC or NFMC.

Whichever bank that is chosen will have to depend on your dad. If mortgage is the way you want to go I can be able to assist but I think it's best to speak to your dad so that I know what he wants.
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I got an offer for loan as following:-

Total loan : RM281K (loan + MRTA + FEC)
MOF : abt 69%
tenure : 30 yrs
loan type : Flexi loan + current account. Cheque book and ATM card provided with no charge for withdrawal. RM200 for one time setup fee and monthly fee of RM10. Daily interest calculation.

for first 2 yrs it is BLR - 2.35 then follow by BLR-2.20 for whole tenure..


Do you guys think it is good deal?
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 26 2009, 10:45 AM)
I got an offer for loan as following:-

Total loan : RM281K (loan + MRTA + FEC)
MOF        : abt 69%
tenure      : 30 yrs
loan type  : Flexi loan + current account. Cheque book and ATM card provided with no charge for withdrawal. RM200 for one time setup fee and monthly fee of RM10. Daily interest calculation.

for first 2 yrs it is BLR - 2.35 then follow by BLR-2.20 for whole tenure..
Do you guys think it is good deal?
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terms seem fair, except for one point.

the MOF. U r willing to foot up 31% (approx 120K) for this? I wouldn't.
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terms seem fair, except for one point.

the MOF.  U r willing to foot up 31% (approx 120K) for this?  I wouldn't.
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Initially, i planned to pay more than RM120K using my own money as i don't wan borrow so much from bank...
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 26 2009, 01:15 PM)
Initially, i planned to pay more than RM120K using my own money as i don't wan borrow so much from bank...
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own stay or investment?


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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 26 2009, 10:45 AM)
I got an offer for loan as following:-

Total loan : RM281K (loan + MRTA + FEC)
MOF        : abt 69%
tenure      : 30 yrs
loan type  : Flexi loan + current account. Cheque book and ATM card provided with no charge for withdrawal. RM200 for one time setup fee and monthly fee of RM10. Daily interest calculation.

for first 2 yrs it is BLR - 2.35 then follow by BLR-2.20 for whole tenure..
Do you guys think it is good deal?
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if its a flexi, why not increase the MOF and dump the saved cash into the current account? works the same isnt it?
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QUOTE(mouldybread @ Mar 26 2009, 03:00 PM)
if its a flexi, why not increase the MOF and dump the saved cash into the current account? works the same isnt it?
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emmm...never think of that...


btw, agent just called.....his manager decided to give me BLR-2.25 for whole tenure...which i think it is really good deal now...


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own stay or investment?
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Well, chief.

The terms are good. But one of the main reasons they could offer u a lower rate is because your application less "risky", due to your hefty 120K downpayment.

I assume u have more than enough cash and have thought about your decision thoroughly to plonk down 30%. However, for poor people like me - I need that 120K for other potential investments.

So - if u r comfortable with your decision - be happy with it.

cheers bud
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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 26 2009, 12:21 AM)
Refering mainly to just mortgage, the requirements depends on your father's age, whether he is still working or is he a sole proprietor...
The loan period will be either 65 years or 30 years which ever comes 1st.
Interest rates vary from bank to bank. But it should be around BLR-1.75%

If your dad is interested in mortgage he will have to decide what package to choose. Whether to go for Flexi loan of Term Loan or FMC or NFMC.

Whichever bank that is chosen will have to depend on your dad. If mortgage is the way you want to go I can be able to assist but I think it's best to speak to your dad so that I know what he wants.
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hi may i know how to to get the bank offer letter???i apply for cimb islamic loan since last fri duno when can i get the letter of offer.please help..
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Check with the loan officer you submitted you case to. Prob havnt been approved yet unless you've already gotten a call.
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hi may i know how to to get the bank offer letter???i apply for cimb islamic loan since last fri duno when can i get the letter of offer.please help..
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at least 1-2 week depend how fast they wanna process it.....

anyway if u interested to apply from public bank smile.gif

do pm me....

no harm to try more bank rite?

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QUOTE(e_trade_pj @ Mar 16 2009, 06:24 PM)
i have loan from RHB RM120,000 since 1999..
the last statement i received, i still have balance RM123,XXX..
every months i pay is RM1030 (previously was RM967, one year ago)..
i still have 200 months to go..
why my balance more than the time i loan..

i heard if refinance can help me to save some money, is it true..
since i don't have time to go to bank..
so trying to get some information from here..
may be i can get some helpful information from some professional here..
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Is your loan an Islamic Loan?

If it is Islamic loan, then it's normal, because your statement will show out the total 'interest' for remaining years + balance principle.
Others Non-Islamic loan will only show the outstanding principle in your statement.
This is due to Islamic law that bank cannot make profit by earning interest. So they have to change the way to show the 'interest'.
That's why you will see your statement after 10years of repayment, your outstanding still over the original loan amount.

I have a client also get shocked when he saw this lastest Islamic-loan statement after 5 month of installment showing his balance RM240k+ where the original loan amount only RM160k.
But everythings is clear when i when to check in the bank. Bank will show you total real outstanding principle you still own the bank. It Rm150k+ in my client case. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Mar 26 2009, 01:00 PM)
terms seem fair, except for one point.

the MOF.  U r willing to foot up 31% (approx 120K) for this?  I wouldn't.
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I just also got an offer for refinancing of housing loan. The details as below:

Market value of property: 295K
Loan tenor: 15 years
MOF: 84%
Loan term: BLR - 2.2% whole tenor (ZEC, flexi account, no MRTA)
Cost: One time fee of RM200, Current account maintenance RM10 monthly.
No minimum or maximum cap on BLR. Prepayment can be done without 1 month notice period

Have not signed the offer letter yet. Do you think this is a fair deal. Any better offers out there?
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OCBC NON ZERO MOVING COST PROMOTION!! rclxms.gif


[U]Under Construction & Completed Properties[/U

Loan size RM150,000 to < RM200,000
(Whole tenure BLR-2.2%)

Loan size RM200,000 to < RM300,000
(Whole tenure BLR-2.3%)

Loan size RM300,000 and above
(Whole tenure BLR-2.4%)


LVS financing (Legal fees, valuation, stamp duty) may apply to loan amount above RM200,000.

This offer is available for limited period only. Anyone interested to apply please don't hesitate to ask detail from me. nod.gif
Feel free meet up with me in Klang Valley area.

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QUOTE(mingzhai @ Apr 3 2009, 10:34 AM)
OCBC NON ZERO MOVING COST PROMOTION!! rclxms.gif
[U]Under Construction & Completed Properties[/U

Loan size RM150,000 to < RM200,000
(Whole tenure BLR-2.2%)

Loan size RM200,000 to < RM300,000
(Whole tenure BLR-2.3%)

Loan size RM300,000 and above
(Whole tenure BLR-2.4%)
LVS financing (Legal fees, valuation, stamp duty) may apply to loan amount above RM200,000.

This offer is available for limited period only. Anyone interested to apply please don't hesitate to ask detail from me. nod.gif
Feel free meet up with me in Klang Valley area.

TOH CHIN MING
Mortgage consultant
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Chin Ming,

Have a few questions, and properties to be refinanced.

I think I've seen some of your postings, but fro brevity here, can you confirm if the packages above are :

1. Full flexi
2. Extra pre payment which automatically reduce principle (and thus interest)
3. No notice period for prepayment
4. Lock in period and the penalty?
5. Can withdraw anytime with no penalty and notice
6. Monthly fees?
7. All-in-one account (checking/savings/loan/atm card)
8. internet banking? fees for GIRO and Bill payment?

Thanks!
meejawa


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deleted, i found the answer edi..paiseh notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 3 2009, 08:24 PM)
Chin Ming,

Have a few questions, and properties to be refinanced.

I think I've seen some of your postings, but fro brevity here, can you confirm if the packages above are :

1. Full flexi
2. Extra pre payment which automatically reduce principle (and thus interest)
3. No notice period for prepayment
4. Lock in period and the penalty?
5. Can withdraw anytime with no penalty and notice
6. Monthly fees?
7. All-in-one account (checking/savings/loan/atm card)
8. internet banking? fees for GIRO and Bill payment?

Thanks!
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Chin Ming,

I'm also interested. I have PM you my e-mail. Please send a pdf doc of your home loan statement to me. I'm only interested in the flexi package similar to Mortgage One from SCB. I can get my answers from the statement. Thanks.
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I dun think OCBC have any Full Flexi package like Mortgage One from SCB.
OCBC always tell people they have Semi-Flexi that function like Full flexi which for me is just useless and no different from normal conventional term loan.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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I dun think OCBC have any Full Flexi package like Mortgage One from SCB.
OCBC always tell people they have Semi-Flexi that function like Full flexi which for me is just useless and no different from normal conventional term loan.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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That's would I've heard too. I have always been a big fan of Mortgage One, but need to explore elsewhere now.

The statement will tell a thousand words. Sometimes, even better than a sales person.
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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Apr 4 2009, 02:54 PM)
That's would I've heard too.  I have always been a big fan of Mortgage One, but need to explore elsewhere now.

The statement will tell a thousand words.  Sometimes, even better than a sales person.
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Ya, the statement will let you know everythings. But do you believe that people from a very famous Mortgage loan Consultant (the name start with 'S') tell me and every one that bank statement is fake and there will be always a hidden statement that bank never let us know. How radiculas is that. They keep on say that Flexi loan is useless in saving interest.
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 4 2009, 05:30 PM)
Ya, the statement will let you know everythings. But do you believe that people from a very famous Mortgage loan Consultant (the name start with 'S') tell me and every one that bank statement is fake and there will be always a hidden statement that bank never let us know. How radiculas is that. They keep on say that Flexi loan is useless in saving interest.
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They are saying that because if everyone takes up Flexi, their business future is jeopardised. wink.gif

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They are saying that because if everyone takes up Flexi, their business future is jeopardised.  wink.gif
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But i wonder why there's no action from any flexi loan's bank or Bank Negara.
They telling everyone in anywhere including in their talks/presentation/seminar.
How can those banks let them say like that? or is that real of what they talking about flexi? (chance might be 0.001%) blink.gif
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my salary is 4k..want to buy a house 500k with depo 100k...will bank accept my loan?
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my salary is 4k..want to buy a house 500k with depo 100k...will bank accept my loan?
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i think it's abit hard to get 400k loan with salary just 4K.
As you monthly installment base on 400k loan for 30years already about RM1800 already.
But you still can try for it. I can try my best to get the loan approve for you if you wanna try.
If can try to get another name in the loan.
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Why my friend got BLR -2.2% for his loan above RM300k only?

And also non-zero package in which he needs to pay the lawyer fee for the loan about 5k plus.
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Why my friend got BLR -2.2% for his loan above RM300k only?

And also non-zero package in which he needs to pay the lawyer fee for the loan about 5k plus.
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BLR-2.2 i think is ok already. but still can improve abit like 0.1-0.2 like that.
Is your fren take Flexi loan? May let us know which bank?
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BLR-2.2 i think is ok already. but still can improve abit like 0.1-0.2 like that.
Is your fren take Flexi loan? May let us know which bank?
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Yes, it is flexi as told. OCBC lor
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But i wonder why there's no action from any flexi loan's bank or Bank Negara.
They telling everyone in anywhere including in their talks/presentation/seminar.
How can those banks let them say like that? or is that real of what they talking about flexi? (chance might be 0.001%) blink.gif
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there's absolutely no chance at all. Like what Boon mentioned, this particular "S" consultant mortgage company is just terrified stiff that there business proposition would be zilch, if everyone takes a flexi loan.

I suspect that some bankers would complain to BNM soon about these jokers.......Just like how some landbanking companies got caught with their pants down in the end.
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Yes, it is flexi as told. OCBC lor
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I dont think OCBC have any full flexi loan, please ask your friend check carefully.
What OCBC have is only semi-flexi as they calling it.
That's totally big different from Full-flexi loan.
(Correct me if my info is wrong, any OCBC bankers here?)

Try to get CIMB or Alliance if you looking for Full Flexi, Their rate currently is quite nice, BLR-2.2 to -2.3 should be no problem for Full-flexi loan smile.gif
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there's absolutely no chance at all.  Like what Boon mentioned, this particular "S" consultant mortgage company is just terrified stiff that there business proposition would be zilch, if everyone takes a flexi loan.

I suspect that some bankers would complain to BNM soon about these jokers.......Just like how some landbanking companies got caught with their pants down in the end.
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Waiting Bank Negara or any financial parties stand out and ask 'S' to stop the joke. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 6 2009, 01:44 AM)
I dont think OCBC have any full flexi loan, please ask your friend check carefully.
What OCBC have is only semi-flexi as they calling it.
That's totally big different from Full-flexi loan.
(Correct me if my info is wrong, any OCBC bankers here?)

Try to get CIMB or Alliance if you looking for Full Flexi, Their rate currently is quite nice, BLR-2.2 to -2.3 should be no problem for Full-flexi loan smile.gif
I can intro some good service banker if you need it smile.gif
What is semi/full flexi?
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What is semi/full flexi?
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You may refer to my reply in another thread about Full-flexi, semi-flexi, and normal term loan

Here's the links , refer second post smile.gif
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You may refer to my reply in another thread about Full-flexi, semi-flexi, and normal term loan

Here's the links , refer second post smile.gif
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yes, his one is semi
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RHB 208K loan, ZEC , BLR -2.0 is ok or not?
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loan 30 years. under construction property

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i think you can get a better deal.
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@daruma
i think you can get a better deal.
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they are preparing the offer letter edi. how to nego sweat.gif

ambank give me BLR -1.90 only doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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be evil
get the offer letter
show to another bank
i htink hsbc or cimb can give better
check it out at money3.com.my


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be evil
get the offer letter
show to another bank
i htink hsbc or cimb can give better
check it out at money3.com.my
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this site result all around BLR -1.6, -1.7 sweat.gif
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this site result all around BLR -1.6, -1.7  sweat.gif
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just browsed through, i don't think that's the best offer showed in the website unless you have specific requirements for your loan package and bank selection.

by the way, i believe the developer of this undercon property would have a panel of banks, don't they offer any decent loan packages compared to the ones you mentioned? i sincerely believe there are much better options.
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 6 2009, 01:44 AM)
Waiting Bank Negara or any financial parties stand out and ask 'S' to stop the joke. biggrin.gif
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a bit hard for BNM to act unless SUPEX dare to make all these claims in writing.

So far they only talk kua........ how to charge a small ciku fella without concrete proof. sweat.gif

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just browsed through, i don't think that's the best offer showed in the website unless you have specific requirements for your loan package and bank selection.

by the way, i believe the developer of this undercon property would have a panel of banks, don't they offer any decent loan packages compared to the ones you mentioned? i sincerely believe there are much better options.
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ambank blr -1.90, rhb -2.0 is their panel banks.

still waiting public & eon bank rate.
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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 7 2009, 04:56 PM)
a bit hard for BNM to act unless SUPEX dare to make all these claims in writing.

So far they only talk kua........ how to charge a small ciku fella without concrete proof.  sweat.gif
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But it's been long time they in business already. More and more innocent victim cheated with their hard earn money. RM1500 + 1.5% loan amount as their consultant fee... how radiculas is that =.="

My consultant fee is zero only lol. Anyone need consultant for their mortgage loan? i charge you one teh tarik enough smile.gif


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ambank blr -1.90, rhb -2.0 is their panel banks.

still waiting public & eon bank rate.
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Try CIMB and Alliance too, their rate is not bad too especially CIMB smile.gif

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But it's been long time they in business already. More and more innocent victim cheated with their hard earn money. RM1500 + 1.5% loan amount as their consultant fee... how radiculas is that =.="
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Wouldnt say cheated coz if they practised what SUPEX told them they could save thousands. The victims were being stupid, thats about it.

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Try CIMB and Alliance too, their rate is not bad too especially CIMB smile.gif
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Wouldnt say cheated coz if they practised what SUPEX told them they could save thousands. The victims were being stupid, thats about it.

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supex is cheater ar? Penang now start with Supex. RM50 to listen to their promotional bullshit.
RM7000 to join as member.

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QUOTE(Pai @ Apr 7 2009, 11:41 PM)
Wouldnt say cheated coz if they practised what SUPEX told them they could save thousands. The victims were being stupid, thats about it.

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But they keep mention Flexi loan is useless and cannot save interest at all. I saw their presentation and doc before.
And even they tell us that bank will always have another hidden account at the back for our loan.

I asked someone from SUPEX,
If my flexi loan outstanding is RM30k, and i dump in RM30k, interest become zero, so i can settle the loan after finish deduct the RM30k right?
Supex answer me NO, you will not settle the loan after that, bank will show you another account and ask you pay more than that.
I just feel that Supex is cheating by keep telling bullshit to frighten people. They keep on telling me they are here to save me. They keep brain wash people we must follow their way to save interest. sweat.gif

I say Supex is cheating because that's my personal feeling after meeting them accidently when i walking around in a Property Fair.


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:44 PM)
i got maybank one. damn good rate....


Added on April 7, 2009, 11:45 pm
supex is cheater ar? Penang now start with Supex. RM50 to listen to their promotional bullshit.
RM7000 to join as member.
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What's your Maybank rate? mind to share? smile.gif

Supex again?
Join me better, a cup of teh tarik to listen, a roti canai to join as my member smile.gif

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What's your Maybank rate? mind to share? smile.gif

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I got offer for BLR-2.2% and BLR-2.3% but non-zero cost. What do you think?
Is it ok?
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I got offer for BLR-2.2% and BLR-2.3% but non-zero cost. What do you think?
Is it ok?
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Full Flexi or normal term loan?
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Full Flexi or normal term loan?
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What is the different?
I take out, I need to pay RM25. Daily rest. Can put in money anytime.
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What is the different?
I take out, I need to pay RM25. Daily rest. Can put in money anytime.
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It's semi flexi loan if need to pay to withdraw
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It's semi flexi loan if need to pay to withdraw
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Is that the only different? I scared later I kena conned by Maybank. Hahaha
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Is that the only different? I scared later I kena conned by Maybank. Hahaha
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As i know for maybank, you r compulsary to take their insurance so that you can get that rate.
Like that you might have no choice to take better insurance coverage for your loan.
Correct me if i'm wrong. smile.gif
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As i know for maybank, you r compulsary to take their insurance so that you can get that rate.
Like that you might have no choice to take better insurance coverage for your loan.
Correct me if i'm wrong. smile.gif
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Is that the only different? I scared later I kena conned by Maybank. Hahaha
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adui...told u wan recommend me ur agent...now u say that pulak...scare me la.... sweat.gif
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actually insurance not much different, the less features the less you pay, the more you pay the more features you get ... the only part that hurts is when you want MRTL but they force you to take Link and then market collapse and you have to keep paying more to keep the loan alive ... but if survive the down turn then the return is handsome again ... as if you get free insurance ... something like that ..
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actually insurance not much different, the less features the less you pay, the more you pay the more features you get ... the only part that hurts is when you want MRTL but they force you to take Link and then market collapse and you have to keep paying more to keep the loan alive ... but if survive the down turn then the return is handsome again ... as if you get free insurance ... something like that ..
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actually insurance not much different, the less features the less you pay, the more you pay the more features you get ... the only part that hurts is when you want MRTL but they force you to take Link and then market collapse and you have to keep paying more to keep the loan alive ... but if survive the down turn then the return is handsome again ... as if you get free insurance ... something like that ..
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There is some guaranteed return policy that you can choose for MLTA insurance. Summore the Guaranteed return is more then you paid in total 30years. Not like those 1 to 1 guarantee back MLTA at the end of settlement.

For example a RM200K sum assure for 30years old man,
You can take this MLTA for RM2170 per year.
Then at the end of 30years, you can have guaranteed return of RM86,678
(You only pay RM65,100 in the 30years and get return of RM86,678 guaranteed)
This MLTA pay some interest for you,Free RM200k insurance in 30years and everythings is guaranteed smile.gif

And also there is Low Cost MLTA also,
For a same age 30years old and sum assure RM200K for 7years level coverage
1 year only need pay RM384 only.Total pay for 7 years only RM2688.
Just that this MLTA has no return at the end of 7 years. But have some return in the middle years in case you plan to refinance again smile.gif
Very good to replace MRTA because MRTA need to pay lump sum or finance into loan.

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I am looking for a FULL Flexi Housing Loan, details as below,

Under construction Condo, freehold, 70% Completed
Price: RM 240.000
Planned to take Loan: RM 200,000
Planned to go for Non zero cost Entry, depends the rates difference offered between zero entry and non-zero entry
Tenure: still considering wither 20 years or 25 years ( need expert advice on this) how much i can save if go for 20 years and worth or not? I can afford both 20 years or 25 years.

Kindly PM me for ur best offer rates. If any T&C applied, please state it clearly. Eg. compulsory MRTA etc. Appreciate no hidden T&C.

This is my first housing loan and i appreciate your advice.

Looking for at least BLR-2% and above please.

Good payment master for HP loan, and zero balance for credit card every month. Working in MNC company with housing loan subsidy provided. Will register the loan under my name together with my husband. Total income around RM14k.

I think i "should" entitled for a very good package right?

Looking for ur kind feedback, please provide your contact number too. Thanks. smile.gif



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Hi there,

I am looking for a FULL Flexi Housing Loan, details as below,

Under construction Condo, freehold, 70% Completed
Price: RM 240.000
Planned to take Loan: RM 200,000
Planned to go for Non zero cost Entry, depends the rates difference offered between zero entry and non-zero entry
Tenure: still considering wither 20 years or 25 years ( need expert advice on this) how much i can save if go for 20 years and worth or not? I can afford both 20 years or 25 years.

Kindly PM me for ur best offer rates. If any T&C applied, please state it clearly. Eg. compulsory MRTA etc. Appreciate no hidden T&C.

This is my first housing loan and i appreciate your advice.

Looking for at least BLR-2% and above please.

Good payment master for HP loan, and zero balance for credit card every month. Working in MNC company with housing loan subsidy provided. Will register the loan under my name together with my husband. Total income around RM14k.

I think i "should" entitled for a very good package right?

Looking for ur kind feedback, please provide your contact number too. Thanks. smile.gif
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Pmed you. smile.gif
For your case, i think BLR-2.2 to -2.3 should be no problem smile.gif

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It's semi flexi loan if need to pay to withdraw
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Hmm... is that so ar? My understanding is: Flexi mean you can deposit money anytime without explicit write-in and processing charges. Withdrawal is of overdraft (OD) feature. They are of 2 different thing.
So, flexi -> money in. OD -> money out. smile.gif
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Tenure: still considering wither 20 years or 25 years ( need expert advice on this) how much i can save if go for 20 years and worth or not? I can afford both 20 years or 25 years.
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This is easy la. Just take 40 years if can. If not, take the maximum you can take.
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Hmm... is that so ar? My understanding is: Flexi mean you can deposit money anytime without explicit write-in and processing charges. Withdrawal is of overdraft (OD) feature. They are of 2 different thing.
So, flexi -> money in. OD -> money out.  smile.gif
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You'r just half right, Flexi let you deposit and withdraw any EXTRA money you put into bank to offset the balance to reduce the interest without explicit write-in and processing charges, but will have RM10 monthly charges.

OD is used when you apply from extra margin of your house for you to use anytime.

But flexi loan also can be use as OD also as you apply for extra margin, the extra money that you loan out will not charge any interest also if you put back in the bank current account. And you can use it anytime you want just same like OD. But using this way you will need to pay installment calculate by the total loan amount no matter you got use the extra money or not.

Normal term + OD will calculate installment using the normal term loan only. Then if you used the money from OD, your installment will be
(Normall term installment + amount that you used in OD) = your monthly installment.

Please note that OD interest is different and normally higher then your term loan interest.
If using Flexi to be 'OD' the 'OD' will using the same interest rate to count.
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Wanna do my business bo?

I have housing loan with PBB BLR - 2.0% and there is 5 years to go.

Thinking to use HLB since it is linked to bank account and reduces the interest.
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onnying88, I added you in MSN but you ignore me.. hahaa

Wanna do my business bo?

I have housing loan with PBB BLR - 2.0% and there is 5 years to go.

Thinking to use HLB since it is linked to bank account and reduces the interest.
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Maybe you can just say a hi to my when you see me online.
As there's alot ppl added me in msn regarding to the job i offer in here.
I might dunno who and which is you.
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[quote=DriedIce,Mar 7 2009, 06:03 PM]
For the withdrawal part, its usually called hidden charges. Some banks have it once you've done past 5 transactions in a month or something like tht. If you are interested you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 and i'll come up with all the legal cost and monthly installment for you.

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I've heard that UOB is reducing loan of apartment from 90 to 80%.
What about other banks?
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I've heard that UOB is reducing loan of apartment from 90 to 80%.
What about other banks?
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Hmm I'm looking for the best rate in town for home refinancing .. any recommendation ? Need to reduce my monthly instalment .. ouch
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Are you looking for Flexi or Term Loan? Zero Cost or Non-Zero Cost?

Each have different rates.  biggrin.gif
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Looking for zero-cost refinancing ... flexi or term still follow BLR right ? hmm.gif

Both Flexi or Term can be considered.

Most important thing is to lower the monthly instalment as much as possible.

Is it possible for client to negotiate better rate if lets say client has 4-5 houses to refinance ? brows.gif

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Looking for zero-cost refinancing ... flexi or term still follow BLR right ?  hmm.gif

Both Flexi or Term can be considered.

Most important thing is to lower the monthly instalment as much as possible.

Is it possible for client to negotiate better rate if lets say client has 4-5 houses to refinance ?  brows.gif
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Yup, there's a bargain power in your case. If your loan amount is high enough smile.gif

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4-5 houses refinance benefit more to agents, for borrower what matter is income power vs total amount borrowed. if you already have the money you want to borrow, that is the best negotiation power. all others are so so only.

the fact that you want lowest monthly payment mean you have cash flow problem, a smart banker would NOT lend to you no matter how many houses you have, but they will ask you to sell some houses to cover the others
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[quote=DriedIce,Mar 6 2009, 11:22 AM]
the last time i checked CIMB islamic has a flexi package that doesn't require RM200 start up fee nor RM10 maintenance. and the penalty is 3% from the remaining outstanding loan, not from total loan amount.
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Yup. That is only for Islamic. Their flexi package gives you profits as well..
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Hi All,

I am new to housing loan and this is my first house..Need advice here..

Going to buy a completed house next month worth RM420k..Get 90% loan RM378k from CIMB with 3.7% ZEC for 30 yrs..Around RM1670/month..Is it a good deal?

Any better installment for me? My target is low installment for 1-3 yrs because of economy uncertainty and job security..what type of loan package will suit me?

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(bokpa @ Apr 18 2009, 02:13 AM)
Hi All,

I am new to housing loan and this is my first house..Need advice here..

Going to buy a completed house next month worth RM420k..Get 90% loan RM378k from CIMB with 3.7% ZEC for 30 yrs..Around RM1670/month..Is it a good deal?

Any better installment for me? My target is low installment for 1-3 yrs because of economy uncertainty and job security..what type of loan package will suit me?

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RM378K @ 3.70% which translates into BLR - 1.85%. You can get better than that.

I mean at least BLR - 2% or more for that kind of financing amount.
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Hi All,

I am new to housing loan and this is my first house..Need advice here..

Going to buy a completed house next month worth RM420k..Get 90% loan RM378k from CIMB with 3.7% ZEC for 30 yrs..Around RM1670/month..Is it a good deal?

Any better installment for me? My target is low installment for 1-3 yrs because of economy uncertainty and job security..what type of loan package will suit me?

Thanks in advance.
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The 3.7% you mean izzit come from BLR-1.85 = 3.75% ?
For 3.7% 30years loan, you installment should be RM 1740/mth

If CIMB offer you BLR-1.85, i'm sure there's others bank offer better then this.

For example Hong Leong Bank can offer ZEC Flexi Loan BLR-2.15 = 3.4%
And installment for 30years will be RM1677/mth


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Nowadays banks are saying that the BLR is dropping, so they cannot give more than BLR-2 for ZEC flexi loan.
Not sure how true is it.
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Affin bank BLR - 2.2%, try it.

constantly check http://www.malpf.com
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then click on the text to the right of the rate to see a long list of all other institutes' rates



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Nowadays banks are saying that the BLR is dropping, so they cannot give more than BLR-2 for ZEC flexi loan.
Not sure how true is it.
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ZEC for Flexi Loan ? Any purpose ? I think Flexi Loan is only good for business people or those with high cash-flow.

Anyway it is your preference.
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ZEC for Flexi Loan ?  Any purpose ?  I think Flexi Loan is only good for business people or those with high cash-flow.

Anyway it is your preference.
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Hong Leong ZEC Flexi loan can offer up to
BLR-2.2% with MRTA (RM250k to RM500k)
BLR-2.15% without MRTA (RM250k to RM500k)



Do you know that if you out RM1 everyday into flexi loam, you can shorten your tenure to 1.5- 2 years time?
Do you think RM1 is consider high cash flow?
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Thanks for your feedback guys..

Actually only CIMB valuer can mark up the house to RM420k while other banks valuate it around RM330-350k..currently the owner want to sell it at RM380k..I want bank loan of RM380k and save my cash in case of emergency..no worries much about the installment cause already got tenant (nursery)..I only need to add RM300-400/month and can increase the rent in the future..

CIMB said NZEC is 3.5% and ZEC is 3.7%..Need to confirm back from them how much BLR-x.x% they give me..if I can nego to 2% or more, that would be a bonus for me..

Any advice (positive,negative) from u guys is much appreciated..
Thanks!!


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Thanks for your feedback guys..

Actually only CIMB valuer can mark up the house to RM420k while other banks valuate it around RM330-350k..currently the owner want to sell it at RM380k..I want bank loan of RM380k and save my cash in case of emergency..no worries much about the installment cause already got tenant (nursery)..I only need to add RM300-400/month and can increase the rent in the future..

CIMB said NZEC is 3.5% and ZEC is 3.7%..Need to confirm back from them how much BLR-x.x% they give me..if I can nego to 2% or more, that would be a bonus for me..

Any advice (positive,negative) from u guys is much appreciated..
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Did you try for Hong Leong Bank? What's the value they give you if have?
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At this moment I only ask Bank Islam, Ar-Rajhi, Alliance Bank and CIMB..I think those banks give lower value due to that house is Malay reserved..So I conclude other banks will valuate about the same range as them..

My friend's lawyer said banks like Bank Islam, RHB and bank Muamalat not good, slow to settle transaction..

Will ask other banks this Monday starts with Hong Leong Bank and Maybank smile.gif...Could you propose me any other good banks? I look for the best rate and the best customer service..
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Hai..i'm banker oso.. New at this forum.. bokpa are u sure cimb just offer u -1.85?

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At this moment I only ask Bank Islam, Ar-Rajhi, Alliance Bank and CIMB..I think those banks give lower value due to that house is Malay reserved..So I conclude other banks will valuate about the same range as them..

My friend's lawyer said banks like Bank Islam, RHB and bank Muamalat not good, slow to settle transaction..

Will ask other banks this Monday starts with Hong Leong Bank and Maybank smile.gif...Could you propose me any other good banks? I look for the best rate and the best customer service..
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In term of the rate for Zero cost Flexi Loan, Currently Hong Leong Bank and Eon bank offer the best for RM200k-250k above i can say.

Hong Leong flexi, BLR-2.15 without MRTA (above RM250k, lock in 5 years)

Eon Bank flexi,BLR-2.1 1st 6yrs, TA BLR-2.2 without MRTA
(above 200k, lock in 6yrs,but Eon only cover 1.5% of the loan amount as legal fee, you'll need to top up the rest)

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QUOTE(bokpa @ Apr 18 2009, 10:02 PM)
Thanks for your feedback guys..

Actually only CIMB valuer can mark up the house to RM420k while other banks valuate it around RM330-350k..currently the owner want to sell it at RM380k..I want bank loan of RM380k and save my cash in case of emergency..no worries much about the installment cause already got tenant (nursery)..I only need to add RM300-400/month and can increase the rent in the future..

CIMB said NZEC is 3.5% and ZEC is 3.7%..Need to confirm back from them how much BLR-x.x% they give me..if I can nego to 2% or more, that would be a bonus for me..

Any advice (positive,negative) from u guys is much appreciated..
Thanks!!
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If your S&P for the house is RM380K, how to get loan for RM380K?
Usually banks will give loan up to 80% or 90% of the house price stated in the S&P.
Do you mean the seller also agree to list the selling price of the house at RM420K in the S&P?
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If your S&P for the house is RM380K, how to get loan for RM380K?
Usually banks will give loan up to 80% or 90% of the house price stated in the S&P.
Do you mean the seller also agree to list the selling price of the house at RM420K in the S&P?
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yes, if s&p write 420k and bank's valuer agrees at 420k, then bank will use 420k

contract says buyer already pay seller 40k in cash so net is 380k but actually seller didn't get any money.

this may sound unethical in residential properties but quite common in commercial estate where different people will value the estate differently, it isn't really a matter of right and wrong ...

that would be one of the key reasons why estate investment is one of the most interesting finance vehicles - but its an Active income and not every has the knowledge and skill to do it.


Added on April 20, 2009, 10:21 amside effects are you pay more stamp duty, lawyer fee etc. its usually not a good thing for residential property unless you already have the money to buy the whole house in cash but just want to keep it for other use.

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Hi,

I am currently negotiating to buy a house. I am taking a RM430k loan. I don't come back to malaysia much so not sure of what's the best mortgage plan around.

With the current BLR, would it be best to have a fixed rate throughout the entire loan tenure take a loan based on current BLR?

EDIT: ZEC means everything is being placed into the loan? This would be my preference.

thanks

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Hi,

I am currently negotiating to buy a house. I am taking a RM430k loan. I don't come back to malaysia much so not sure of what's the best mortgage plan around.

With the current BLR, would it be best to have a fixed rate throughout the entire loan tenure take a loan based on current BLR?

EDIT: ZEC means everything is being placed into the loan? This would be my preference.

thanks
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Hi, depent on which type of bank loan you prefer, will have different rate for it.
Flexi loan, Semi Flexi loan,normal conventional loan.
Then rate will be rate around BLR-2.2 to BLR-2.4 for your case loan above RM300k

For current BLR, it's totally not worth to get Fixed rate as the rate will be about 4.XX%
For loan base on current BLR let say BLR-2% also just 3.55% only.
So do you think BLR will be increase in short few years with current local and global ecomonics?

ZEC mean zero entry cost which is package that bank will bare all the cost for a loan. (Interest rate will higher for ZEC)
Another type is FEC which is bank will Finance all the cost into your loan. (interest rate will lower for FEC)
Both also no need you to pay cash at first.
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 20 2009, 01:15 PM)
Hi, depent on which type of bank loan you prefer, will have different rate for it.
Flexi loan, Semi Flexi loan,normal conventional loan.
Then rate will be rate around BLR-2.2 to BLR-2.4 for your case loan above RM300k

For current BLR, it's totally not worth to get Fixed rate as the rate will be about 4.XX%
For loan base on current BLR let say BLR-2% also just 3.55% only.
So do you think BLR will be increase in short few years with current local and global ecomonics?

ZEC mean zero entry cost which is package that bank will bare all the cost for a loan. (Interest rate will higher for ZEC)
Another type is FEC which is bank will Finance all the cost into your loan. (interest rate will lower for FEC)
Both also no need you to pay cash at first.
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Thanks for the info. For non-ZEC...what are the other cost that i would need to pay....and roughly how much? Compared to FEC and ZEC...big significance?

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Thanks for the info. For non-ZEC...what are the other cost that i would need to pay....and roughly how much? Compared to FEC and ZEC...big significance?
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For non Zero cost, you will need to pay for the legal fee, Stamp duty, valuation fee and some account set up maybe.
Do you mind pm me the loan amount and property value? The rate can be diferent with loan size. Then i compare the different for you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(WildChai @ Apr 20 2009, 12:42 PM)
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I am currently negotiating to buy a house. I am taking a RM430k loan. I don't come back to malaysia much so not sure of what's the best mortgage plan around.

With the current BLR, would it be best to have a fixed rate throughout the entire loan tenure take a loan based on current BLR?

EDIT: ZEC means everything is being placed into the loan? This would be my preference.

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Not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask this question, but what percentage of income is the maximum monthly payment that is allowed by banks when arranging a loan?

Furthermore, is it possible to have multiple loans while under this limit? For example, let's say if you're allowed a maximum of 33% of your monthly income as installment, so if my monthly income is RM3k, then my maximum allowed installment should be RM1k, right? If so, am I allowed to have two separate loans for installments of RM500 each?
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 25 2009, 11:29 AM)
Not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask this question, but what percentage of income is the maximum monthly payment that is allowed by banks when arranging a loan?

Furthermore, is it possible to have multiple loans while under this limit? For example, let's say if you're allowed a maximum of 33% of your monthly income as installment, so if my monthly income is RM3k, then my maximum allowed installment should be RM1k, right? If so, am I allowed to have two separate loans for installments of RM500 each?
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Some bank is 33.33%, some is 40%.
But some time if your margin of finance is low, it can be nego. smile.gif

Yes, you can have 2 RM500 installment in this case.

A very simple question i always tell my client.
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If your salary RM5k, will you approve a loan with installment RM3k/mth?
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i looking for mortgage loan for apartment 150k...anyone can offer best rate?


Prefer non flexi...

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i looking for mortgage loan for apartment 150k...anyone can offer best rate?
Prefer non flexi...
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BLR-2.2 first 2 years, Thereafter BLR-2%
If you wan i can try summit to few bank and compare all the rate to you. smile.gif
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ZEC?
how many years lock in?
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ZEC?
how many years lock in?
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Buying a sub-sale property at RM480k. Loan required RM430k. Looking only into PBB loan. Don't ask why as its a discrete arrangement with seller. Looking at ZEC option. Kindly PM me if you have good deal. Cheers n tx
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currently got a housing loan with maybank.looking to refinance with more lower monthly payments and some extra money to do renovation.is this possible?
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 28 2009, 01:54 PM)
This is FEC, 5 years lock in. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zombie24 @ Apr 29 2009, 03:38 AM)
currently got a housing loan with maybank.looking to refinance with more lower monthly payments and some extra money to do renovation.is this possible?
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Depends on how much is your outstanding balance and the value of your property. From there we can see the additional amount of money that can be used for your renovation.
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which bank?
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This is from Allicance bank,
CIMB also can BLR-2.15%, should be no problem also
Others bank need to see your profile to get better rate then the board rate.
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Thinking of refinance , Loan for 280K, what will be the best rate ? kindly please PM me , thank you !

Besides, is HSBC package good ?
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Hey Guys,

Thinking of refinance , Loan for 280K, what will be the best rate ? kindly please PM me , thank you !

Besides, is HSBC package good ?
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HSBC package consider so so only for current market, for sure there will be better then HSBC now.
If you need compare, i can help you to get offer from few bank and compare it for you smile.gif

For loan RM250k-500k, Hong Leong FLEXI LOAN ZERO COST. Best flexi loan you can get now.
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HSBC package consider so so only for current market, for sure there will be better then HSBC now.
If you need compare, i can help you to get offer from few bank and compare it for you smile.gif

For loan RM250k-500k, Hong Leong FLEXI LOAN ZERO COST. Best flexi loan you can get now.
BLR-2.2 with MRTA
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Hong Leong bank dam tight on approval. =/
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i going to try UOD,S&C,HLB,CIMB...any other can offer me?
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You can try PBB also if not goin to take flexi, not bad for their term loan rate. smile.gif
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Fingers crossed, but I "think" I've found a bank which mortgage is BETTER than MOA. Will update once I see the offer letter...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I would like to ask a question.
I have a housing loan previously with the bank, still paying installement. Since the current interest rate is much lower compare the time I applied i.e. 2 years ago. Is it possible I can appeal to the bank to revise my the interest rate? If can't, would the refinancing process another option for me?
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I would like to ask a question.
I have a housing loan previously with the bank, still paying installement. Since the current interest rate is much lower compare the time I applied i.e. 2 years ago. Is it possible I can appeal to the bank to revise my the interest rate? If can't, would the refinancing process another option for me?
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But normally the rate wouldn't get as good as you refinance.
The Pros is you can reduce the interest rate without paying for the legal fee,penalty, and much simple prosedure compare with refinance.
The Cons is the rate normally wouldn't be as good as you refinance, and your lock in period will refresh to another 5 years again.

If you not sure it is worth to refinance or not, better to do is you ask the bank to revise the rate, and show us the new rate here,
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Hi all,

Just would like to check if anyone here getting loan under public bank homesave loan package?

I know it's claimed as flexi loan with current account, but I also heard that these are 2 separate accounts and the interest will not be reduced with surplus in the current account unless writing in. Anyone using this package mind to share how it works?

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After doing some thinking and crunching some numbers...really hard to decide between a fixed rate or a floating rate home loan. It is very tempting to get a floating rate now since the BLR is so low. But in the near future...it might sky rocket back up.

Currently, which bank or institution is giving the lowest fixed rate?
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Hi there,

Just need some advice. I'm buying a condo worth 350k, applying loan at 90%. I'm going for full flexi with daily rest interest rate. So far I'm applying with 3 banks: PB, Alliance and RHB. So far RHB has approved full flexi with the BLR - 2.1, with BLR 5.55. Public Bank also approved with BLR - 2.0. So far RHB looks like the best, still awaiting for Alliance for their approval. My loan tenure is 30 years, with MRTA. It's a ZEC package.

I'm not so good at all these so just wanted some advice on whether the rates offered to me are good or not? Can I still push higher?
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QUOTE(amenor @ May 3 2009, 01:46 PM)
Hi there,

Just need some advice. I'm buying a condo worth 350k, applying loan at 90%. I'm going for full flexi with daily rest interest rate. So far I'm applying with 3 banks: PB, Alliance and RHB. So far RHB has approved full flexi with the BLR - 2.1, with BLR 5.55. Public Bank also approved with BLR - 2.0. So far RHB looks like the best, still awaiting for Alliance for their approval. My loan tenure is 30 years, with MRTA. It's a ZEC package.

I'm not so good at all these so just wanted some advice on whether the rates offered to me are good or not? Can I still push higher?
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Hi Guys,

Need some advice as well. I'm getting a property worth 530k, MOF 90%. Loan tenure: 30 years, Under construction (progress ~50%). So far the packages i found :

Non ZEC, Flexi
CIMB : 0% - 1st 15 months , BLR - 2.2% - 2nd year , BLR - 2.1% TA
Maybank : 0% - 1st year , BlR - 2.2% TA
OCBC : BLR - 2.4% full tenure , semi-flexi
Alliance : BLR - 2.3% - 1st year , BLR - 1.9% - 3rd-5th yr, BLR - 2.05% TA

I think the best rates offered would be Maybank ?? Kindly advice pls icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 3 2009, 06:19 PM)
You may try HLB flexi loan also. BLR-2.2%or 2.3% should be no problem for you.
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Thanks! I'm still pushing PB and Alliance to counter RHB's rate hehe..
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If you not interested to get flexi, you may ask Alliance to get a term loan for you for better rate.
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hi, i buying a house around 190K~230K, 10% deposit, means borrow around 170~210... repayment maybe 25~30 years, which bank to take?

anyone have the complete table, which stated how much to pay each month, like those they give on properties fair? thanks!
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hi, i buying a house around 190K~230K, 10% deposit, means borrow around 170~210... repayment maybe 25~30 years, which bank to take?

anyone have the complete table, which stated how much to pay each month, like those they give on properties fair? thanks!
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Firstly for new purchase property, better to get loan from the end financial for the developer, as the process will faster.
Can let us know which back is their end financial bank? If the bank offer not not so good or not your fav bank, get more offer from others.
CIMB,HongLeong,Alliance offer good in flexi loan,
PB,OCBE offer good in term loan
But it's also apply to their T&C.
If you need help i can help you to get offer from few bank and compare for you. free of charge smile.gif

Actually you can easily download those mortgage calculater on internet to get the installment illustration.
Or you can pm my you email i can send one for you too smile.gif
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 6 2009, 07:28 PM)
Firstly for new purchase property, better to get loan from the end financial for the developer, as the process will faster.
Can let us know which back is their end financial bank? If the bank offer not not so good or not your fav bank, get more offer from others.
CIMB,HongLeong,Alliance offer good in flexi loan,
PB,OCBE offer good in term loan
But it's also apply to their T&C.
If you need help i can help you to get offer from few bank and compare for you. free of charge smile.gif

Actually you can easily download those mortgage calculater on internet to get the installment illustration.
Or you can pm my you email i can send one for you too smile.gif
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thanks for the reply..

their end financial is public bank, i heard is not so good

and i plan to get a flexi loan.. as suggested by my friend..
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Looking for housing loan for complete property about RM130,000. Which loan is the best? Prefer ZEC.

Thanks in advance.
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hi all, i plan to get a landed properties (on-going project) around 200K, will put in 10% deposit..repayment maybe 30 or 35 years..

been looking around for loan, the thing is they have this so called term loan and flexi loan .. i got little understanding over these..

can anyone explain to me, the pro and cons of both and for my case, which is the best choice? thanks!
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may i noe wat does the flexi and semi-flexi mean? i only heard bridging and fixed loan b4, but neva heard of flexi or semi-flexi... any1 care to xplain?
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QUOTE(imranayid @ May 7 2009, 12:23 PM)
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Looking for housing loan for complete property about RM130,000. Which loan is the best? Prefer ZEC.

Thanks in advance.
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If you need help i can try get few offer from some bank then let you know the different. smile.gif


Added on May 8, 2009, 3:10 pmSinner and yiivei, you may refer to my earlier post about flexi and semi flexi loan here

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1. get a refinance offer letter first
2. show current lender and ask them to match
3. then decide to move over or not.
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asked CIMB to do refinance & officer said everything will be settle within 3-4 mths .... but if the house is under PKNS, can be until 6 mths ...

how about the other bank? is it will be the same duration ...
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QUOTE(bob @ May 9 2009, 01:48 PM)
asked CIMB to do refinance & officer said everything will be settle within 3-4 mths .... but if the house is under PKNS, can be until 6 mths ...

how about the other bank? is it will be the same duration ...
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should be the same, as it's standard prosedure and since it's involve PKNS, more things will need to be done by the lawyer. Thus duration also longer.
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QUOTE(kimojin @ May 3 2009, 06:52 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need some advice as well. I'm getting a property worth 530k, MOF 90%. Loan tenure: 30 years, Under construction (progress ~50%). So far the packages i found :

Non ZEC, Flexi
CIMB : 0% - 1st 15 months , BLR - 2.2% - 2nd year , BLR - 2.1% TA
Maybank : 0% - 1st year , BlR - 2.2% TA
OCBC : BLR - 2.4% full tenure , semi-flexi
Alliance : BLR - 2.3% - 1st year , BLR - 1.9% - 3rd-5th yr, BLR - 2.05% TA

I think the best rates offered would be Maybank ?? Kindly advice pls  icon_question.gif

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One advice, if your goal is to have full flexi features, check if it's REALLY FULL FLEXI, not semiflexi, half flexi, or whatever mumbojumbo the banks will tell you. So far I have not come across ANY local banks offering full flexi, but that was last month (heard EON is doing it). Things are changing so fast nowadays, make sure you get what you want. Make sure there is no charge or notice for prepayment and withdrawal, and check on monthly maintenance fees, and check if it's all in one (loan, checking, ATM, etc.), and it's daily rest calculation, and "prepayment" does not mean ADVANCE payment. Remember, full flexi offsets PRINCIPLE, not INTEREST. Some banks can easily confuse the purchasers with these....
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QUOTE(meejawa @ May 10 2009, 08:18 AM)
One advice, if your goal is to have full flexi features, check if it's REALLY FULL FLEXI, not semiflexi, half flexi, or whatever mumbojumbo the banks will tell you. So far I have not come across ANY local banks offering full flexi, but that was last month (heard EON is doing it). Things are changing so fast nowadays, make sure you get what you want. Make sure there is no charge or notice for prepayment and withdrawal, and check on monthly maintenance fees, and check if it's all in one (loan, checking, ATM, etc.), and it's daily rest calculation, and "prepayment" does not mean ADVANCE payment. Remember, full flexi offsets PRINCIPLE, not INTEREST. Some banks can easily confuse the purchasers with these....
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actually there are quite a number of local banks offering full-flexi loan...

these are the few local banks who offer full-flexi mortgage loan, just to name a few;

1)Alliance Bank
2)CIMB Bank
3)Hong Leong Bank
4)Public Bank

and etc...

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Remember, full flexi offsets PRINCIPLE, not INTEREST


no offence, but i think you got the “terms” and “facilities” confused.

The term "Full-flexi"is a loan structure, it has nothing to do with principal reduction. It's one of the characteristic of a mortgage loan structures available on the market.

All 3 types of Loan structures (full-flexi, semi-flexi & conventional) have their own behavior of principal reduction, in which may also vary from the lenders or financiers themselves.

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...and "prepayment" does not mean ADVANCE payment.

A bank definition's of "prepayment" is usually referring to a larger amount money meant for capital payment/down-payment than the installment amount, or the additional amount of money after installment. Whether does it contribute to ADVANCE payment, depends on the Terms & Condition and the Restriction of the loan itself.

Now go smack the banker who told you "prepayment" means advance payment. rolleyes.gif

Still, I do agree with meejawa. It's always better to do your study on Mortgage Loan before you approach bank officers. Understanding the Terms itself can and WILL help you to avoid unnecessary hassle, and to protect yourself from confusion.


Hope the above helps. smile.gif


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meejawa was trying to explain that "Full-Flexi" advance payment/prepayment/extra payment (which the term doesn't matter if it's a flexi loan, it would matter than for conventional though) should directly offset the principal instead of interest.

Thus he's asking those wanting flexi facility should really check out and understand the loan structure and how it works.
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I agree with Merce on this one.

A lot of people (including seasoned investors) get this point a bit mixed up.

In short - they confuse themselves. (me too, sometimes) Full Flexi / Semi flexi - has NOTHING to do with the offsetting of principle or interest or whatever. (Yes, it's important to understand that, but it's nothing to do with the term "flexi") Each bank has varrying treatments on how principal and interest is amortized over the loan tenure.

Let me give u a clear example of semi flexi. A bank is considered "semi-flexi" if u do not have the flexibility to withdraw funds with ease and convenience. For instance, I have to put in a request via writing - wait 5 days - and then the bank issues a cheque. For full flexi -u have the discretion to do so at your own ease because u already have full control at the onset.
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Let me give u a clear example of semi flexi.  A bank is considered "semi-flexi" if u do not have the flexibility to withdraw funds with ease and convenience.  For instance, I have to put in a request via writing - wait 5 days - and then the bank issues a cheque.  For full flexi -u have the discretion to do so at your own ease because u already have full control at the onset.
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Added on May 11, 2009, 7:16 pm
QUOTE(merce @ May 10 2009, 03:48 PM)
actually there are quite a number of local banks offering full-flexi loan...

these are the few local banks who offer full-flexi mortgage loan, just to name a few;

1)Alliance Bank
2)CIMB Bank
3)Hong Leong Bank
4)Public Bank

and etc...
no offence, but i think you got the “terms” and “facilities” confused.

The term "Full-flexi"is a loan structure, it has nothing to do with principal reduction. It's one of the characteristic of a mortgage loan structures available on the market.

All 3 types of Loan structures (full-flexi, semi-flexi & conventional) have their own behavior of principal reduction, in which may also vary from the lenders or financiers themselves.
A bank definition's of "prepayment" is usually referring to a larger amount money meant for capital payment/down-payment than the installment amount, or the additional amount of money after installment. Whether does it contribute to ADVANCE payment, depends on the Terms & Condition and the Restriction of the loan itself.

Now go smack the banker who told you "prepayment" means advance payment.  rolleyes.gif

Still, I do agree with meejawa. It's always better to do your study on Mortgage Loan before you approach bank officers. Understanding the Terms itself can and WILL help you to avoid unnecessary hassle, and to protect yourself from confusion.
Hope the above helps.  smile.gif
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So many local banks d..good to know, thanks for the updates. Anyway, my point on prepayment is that if a loan has full flexi features, the need to decide whether it is for PR or AP does not arise. Good explanation there. To me I too always get confused on the terms, but as long as it serves my purpose (ie auto PR, one account, no notice etc.), I'm good. The banks can call it super conventional loan for all I care.

I propose, if it's not already here, that a thread is created to compare the features, not just rates on the housing loan. Each package cater to different profiles, be it investor, own occupation, those with extra cash, those who need assurance on rates etc.

merce should be able to provide the bulk of information I believe? smile.gif

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Actually have an existing joint housing loan with my sister (RM750/mth for 25 years) + RM10K personal loan (9 years).

Current salary: RM3.3K
Sister's: SGD3.3K

What's the max loan which I would be able to go? sweat.gif

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Hi all,

my brother wanted to refinance his property.. but outstanding with HSBC is less than 100k... which bank offer the best rate for loan less than RM100k??

thank you
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QUOTE(Cky's gf @ May 13 2009, 03:51 PM)
Hi all,

my brother wanted to refinance his property.. but outstanding with HSBC is less than 100k... which bank offer the best rate for loan less than RM100k??

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CIMB can be one of the best.
BLR-2+% no problem for under 100k but only have NZEC or FEC package.
You may contact me for more info if you need smile.gif

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Bank: Alliance Bank
Mortgager's Contact: Jason 017-6012062
Mortgager's Location: KL/Selangor

Non-ZEC / FEC:
Type of loan packages:
Conventional
Year 1 & 2 BLR - 2.40%p.a.
Thereafter BLR - 2.10% p.a.
Flexi
Year 1 & 2 BLR - 2.30% p.a
Thereafter BLR - 2.05% p.a.

ZEC:
Type of loan packages:
Conventional
Year 1-5 BLR - 2.00% p.a.
Thereafter BLR - 2.15% p.a.
Flexi Year 1-5 BLR - 1.90% p.a.
Thereafter BLR - 2.00% p.a.

MRTA:
Optional for MRTA, rate will not affected
Further enquiries
Please email to enghaou22@hotmail.com




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Hi. I'm new here Just want to ask.. What is the things that I should know when Buying a House? The Loan sort things.. Hope you guys sifu can help.. ^^
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is ZEC and Non-ZEC same as flexi or semi flexi? wat does MRTA stands for? purpose is?

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is ZEC and Non-ZEC same as flexi or semi flexi? wat does MRTA stands for? purpose is?

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ZEC mean ZERO ENTRY COST (You no need to pay anythings for the loan, bank will pay for you,interest rate higher abit compare to NON-ZEC)
NON-ZEC mean NON ZERO ENTRY COST (You need to pay all the legal fee, stamp duty and everythings,interest rate will lower then ZEC)

Those term is not related to flexi or semi flexi at all. If you want to know more about flexi and semi flexi, you may refer HERE

MRTA stand for Mortgage Reducing Term Assurance. It's use as a protection for the loan if somethings happened to you, insurance will pay the remaining balance for you. Or more easy to say, bank wan you to buy insurance, and ask you pay for it. Some banks even compulsary the borrower to take their MRTA along with the loan, or you loan will not approve.

Anymore question about mortgage loan, feel free to ask. smile.gif


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QUOTE(darma @ May 16 2009, 06:24 PM)
Hi. I'm new here Just want to ask.. What is the things that I should know when Buying a House? The Loan sort things.. Hope you guys sifu can help.. ^^
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Type of package you want,
1) flexi loan, semi-flexi loan, or normal term loan?
2) ZEC or non-ZEC or FEC?
3) MRTA or MLTA or without any of it.

Let's choose from these first before i can give you more advise. smile.gif

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 17 2009, 04:24 AM)
ZEC mean ZERO ENTRY COST (You no need to pay anythings for the loan, bank will pay for you,interest rate higher abit compare to NON-ZEC)
NON-ZEC mean NON ZERO ENTRY COST (You need to pay all the legal fee, stamp duty and everythings,interest rate will lower then ZEC)

Those term is not related to flexi or semi flexi at all. If you want to know more about flexi and semi flexi, you may refer HERE

MRTA stand for Mortgage Reducing Term Assurance. It's use as a protection for the loan if somethings happened to you, insurance will pay the remaining balance for you. Or more easy to say, bank wan you to buy insurance, and ask you pay for it. Some banks even compulsary the borrower to take their MRTA along with the loan, or you loan will not approve.

Anymore question about mortgage loan, feel free to ask. smile.gif


Added on May 17, 2009, 4:29 am

Type of package you want,
1) flexi loan, semi-flexi loan, or normal term loan?
2) ZEC or non-ZEC or FEC?
3) MRTA or MLTA or without any of it.

Let's choose from these first before i can give you more advise. smile.gif
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Thanks for your reply.

Can you explain what is MLTA for? and FEC?

If i were to buy a condo of RM300k, can i opt for flexi + ZEC? Is this possible?
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I checked with Public Bank and according to the staff I checked with they don't have full flexi. You have to give notice of intention to redraw - is that correct? Has anyone else checked with Public Bank?


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For Hong Leong Bank I got the offer letter already but I am not happy with it. I got the rate I wanted but there's two clauses I'm not comfortable with in the offer letter. Firstly, there's now an Annual Review clause. This is normally only inserted for OD Facilities. With this annual review, the bank can alter, change, withdraw, etc the facility upon doing the annual review. If that's the case, how certain can I be that the rate will not be changed in the future?

Furthermore, there's another clause in the offer letter that states that the bank has the right to unilaterally vary, change, etc any terms in the loan at its absolute discretion. From my experience, Hong Leong Bank is one of the most psychotic banks which likes to take away umbrellas on rainy days. The only reason I applied to this bank is because of the low rate they offered for full flexi ZEC loan. However, not that I've seen the offer letter, I am totally not comfortable with this loan and I urge others to be aware of this as well.

Can someone from Hong Leong Bank please comment? As with all transactions, we have to study not only the price offered by the bank, but all the terms as well. The rate offered may be low but when we sign the offer letter, we will be locked in for 5 years and during that time, there's a 3% penalty if we switch. However, HLBB has the right to change the terms at any time.

And don't tell me that these terms are put in 'just-in-case' or 'it will never happen' because this bank has done just such a thing to my company before for our corporate facilities!!!

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ZEC is the acronym for Zero Entry Cost, meaning to say one doesn't need to pay legal fees for signed agreements/papers.

MRTA & MLTA is different insurance type.
Read more here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=mrta+vs+mlta
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hi friends,

I just put deposit on my new apartment. Planing to loan 100k for my new apartment. I prefer flexi home loan. what is the best offer in the market?

Thank you in advance and help appreciated.
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All,

Could someone please tell me what kind of housing loan that we have in Malaysia?? Is it a recourse loan or a non-recourse loan??

A non-recourse loan means that if you do not pay your housing loan, the BANK can ONLY take away your house. The BANK cannot go after any other of your asset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonrecourse_debt

Thanks in advance.

Dreamer
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All,

Could someone please tell me what kind of housing loan that we have in Malaysia?? Is it a recourse loan or a non-recourse loan??

A non-recourse loan means that if you do not pay your housing loan, the BANK can ONLY take away your house.  The BANK cannot go after any other of your asset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonrecourse_debt

Thanks in advance.

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Whao, i neva thought of this before.

This concept is slightly similar to the limited or unlimited liability..

any1 can clarify on the matter raise by dreamer101?
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every house loan is a contract, all the fine print by default do not favor you. however, before you sign to agree to any contract, you can request any kind of clause change in it.

unfortunately, all my request to change in my personal asset loan did not ever noticed, the agent will just ignore me because they are more willing to work on the default contracts - work less but receive same commission.


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Do you think that if the loan agreement has been signed and can cancel while lawyer is still preparing the S&P agreement?

My friend applied with OCBC and approved with BLR - 2.2% but is non-zero cost package. He has to pay for RM5k plus for the loan agreement fee.

If zero cost package, it is -2%.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 18 2009, 10:53 AM)
All,

Could someone please tell me what kind of housing loan that we have in Malaysia?? Is it a recourse loan or a non-recourse loan??

A non-recourse loan means that if you do not pay your housing loan, the BANK can ONLY take away your house.  The BANK cannot go after any other of your asset.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonrecourse_debt

Thanks in advance.

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It's a non-recourse until the day they sue you for bankruptcy. wink.gif

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It's a non-recourse until the day they sue you for bankruptcy. wink.gif
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b00n,

You cannot sue a person for bankruptcy if it is a non-recourse loan.

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@Dreamer
Not that good with law terminology. But going by that, every loan is a recourse loan than as everyone has the opportunity to sue a person for bankrupt in the event that the debt is at the minimum of RM30k. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ProComplex @ May 17 2009, 09:16 AM)
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I checked with Public Bank and according to the staff I checked with they don't have full flexi. You have to give notice of intention to redraw - is that correct? Has anyone else checked with Public Bank?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


For Hong Leong Bank I got the offer letter already but I am not happy with it. I got the rate I wanted but there's two clauses I'm not comfortable with in the offer letter. Firstly, there's now an Annual Review clause. This is normally only inserted for OD Facilities. With this annual review, the bank can alter, change, withdraw, etc the facility upon doing the annual review. If that's the case, how certain can I be that the rate will not be changed in the future?

Furthermore, there's another clause in the offer letter that states that the bank has the right to unilaterally vary, change, etc any terms in the loan at its absolute discretion. From my experience, Hong Leong Bank is one of the most psychotic banks which likes to take away umbrellas on rainy days. The only reason I applied to this bank is because of the low rate they offered for full flexi ZEC loan. However, not that I've seen the offer letter, I am totally not comfortable with this loan and I urge others to be aware of this as well.

Can someone from Hong Leong Bank please comment?  As with all transactions, we have to study not only the price offered by the bank, but all the terms as well. The rate offered may be low but when we sign the offer letter, we will be locked in for 5 years and during that time, there's a 3% penalty if we switch. However, HLBB has the right to change the terms at any time.

And don't tell me that these terms are put in 'just-in-case' or 'it will never happen' because this bank has done just such a thing to my company before for our corporate facilities!!!
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PBB is offering REDRAW Facility as well as those HLBB Mortgage Plus like package.

With PBB it is called HomeSave Package :-

HomeSave Package

The package links your housing loan to your current account whereby the credit balance in your current account will be used to reduce the housing loan balance outstanding for interest calculation, thus resulting in interest savings.

Link : http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...oans/5home.html

Rates is depend on your Financing Amount & Tenure.

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Ya,Public actually do have Fulll Flexi loan which called HomeSave.

But not much people know about it.Public bank also don't like to push or promote their flexi loan, Their banker always like/misseading to tell people flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Normal people wouldn't get benefit from flexi loan, only those cash rich businessman suitable for it.

One of my clients that interested to apply flexi loan, and try with public bank, The banker told my client with this,
"Those agent or banker that have 'leong sum' wouldn't ask people to take flexi loan as flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Only those cash rich businessman suitable for it."

And i personally also meet with one PB's banker, also told me the same, 'Flexi loan not suitable for everyone people,except cash rich businessman'

I think this is why ProComplex can't get the info about PB flexi loan, as PB's banker seldom or don't like to push their flexi loan.
Simply because their semi-flexi or normal term loan rates is alot better then their flexi,thus can get more sales by pushing their semi-flexi or normal term loan.

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Not that good with law terminology. But going by that, every loan is a recourse loan than as everyone has the opportunity to sue a person for bankrupt in the event that the debt is at the minimum of RM30k. wink.gif
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b00n,

1) In USA, many of the housing loan is a non-recourse loan. This is WHY when the house value dropped, people just walk away from their house and you cannot sue them for bankruptcy.

2) Under USA bankruptcy law (unlike any other country), a person still get to keep his house and car.

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 19 2009, 03:36 AM)
Ya,Public actually do have Fulll Flexi loan which called HomeSave.

But not much people know about it.Public bank also don't like to push or promote their flexi loan, Their banker always like/misseading to tell people flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Normal people wouldn't get benefit from flexi loan, only those cash rich businessman suitable for it.

One of my clients that interested to apply flexi loan, and try with public bank, The banker told my client with this,
"Those agent or banker that have 'leong sum' wouldn't ask people to take flexi loan as flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Only those cash rich businessman suitable for it."

And i personally also meet with one PB's banker, also told me the same, 'Flexi loan not suitable for everyone people,except cash rich businessman'

I think this is why ProComplex can't get the info about PB flexi loan, as PB's banker seldom or don't like to push their flexi loan.
Simply because their semi-flexi or normal term loan rates is alot better then their flexi,thus can get more sales by pushing their semi-flexi or normal term loan.
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" Every inventions can be used for good or bad just like credit card. "

Flexi Loan requires control and if used correctly would assist the consumer in reducing interests. Most people just jumped into the bandwagon without realising how to maximise the package as you need actually $$$ in current account to reduce the interests. Just check out with the PB Bankers on HomeSave package. It is in the website, surely they know how to sell that product.

And talking about people, there are people out there seeking refinance with difference of 0.1% ~ 0.2% against the existing loan just because it is cheaper, you figures. Maybe the sales people giving out impression you could save. I dunno.


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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 19 2009, 03:36 AM)
Ya,Public actually do have Fulll Flexi loan which called HomeSave.

But not much people know about it.Public bank also don't like to push or promote their flexi loan, Their banker always like/misseading to tell people flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Normal people wouldn't get benefit from flexi loan, only those cash rich businessman suitable for it.

One of my clients that interested to apply flexi loan, and try with public bank, The banker told my client with this,
"Those agent or banker that have 'leong sum' wouldn't ask people to take flexi loan as flexi loan is not suitable for everyone. Only those cash rich businessman suitable for it."

And i personally also meet with one PB's banker, also told me the same, 'Flexi loan not suitable for everyone people,except cash rich businessman'

I think this is why ProComplex can't get the info about PB flexi loan, as PB's banker seldom or don't like to push their flexi loan.
Simply because their semi-flexi or normal term loan rates is alot better then their flexi,thus can get more sales by pushing their semi-flexi or normal term loan.
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Hi Onnying88

Are you from HLB? If so, is it normal for your latest housing loan offer letters to have the annual review clause and also the 'variation clause'?

Do all banks have this or only Hong Leong Bank?


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i was offered loan with PBB and SCB.

when i read PBB's clause, they really "kiasi" put in a lot of clause to protect themself, and i feel very uncomfortable although i was offered BLR - 2.3% for entire tenure. my PBB banker told me, if you think that your bank has "unfairly" raised the interest, and you feel that you are "cheated" you can bring this case to Bank Negara who will "fight" on your behalf. anyway, I signed up with them tongue.gif

for SCB it's totally different, i felt very comfortable with the clause, cause don't have all these "variation clause" but i didn't choose their Flexi loan becoz of i don't need the Flexibility to withdraw. for normal people like me who don't do business, flexi is very "harmful". for me if i put in money to settle the loan, i prefer the money to sit in there rather than take in an out, coz i still have to settle the loan no matter what. not to mention i have to pay RM200 setup fees and RM10 monthly maintenance fee, which i could put back in the loan to lower my interest
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i want to refinancing my home for around RM100k for renovate, my salary around 3k monthly, can i know which bank has the best deal for house refinancing loan?
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QUOTE(lawcl99 @ May 19 2009, 10:30 PM)
i want to refinancing my home for around RM100k for renovate, my salary around 3k monthly, can i know which bank has the best deal for house refinancing loan?
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For ZEC, you can normally get BLR - 1.80% p.a.


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QUOTE(kayx @ May 19 2009, 05:07 PM)
i was offered loan with PBB and SCB.

when i read PBB's clause, they really "kiasi" put in a lot of clause to protect themself, and i feel very uncomfortable although i was offered BLR - 2.3% for entire tenure. my PBB banker told me, if you think that your bank has "unfairly" raised the interest, and you feel that you are "cheated" you can bring this case to Bank Negara who will "fight" on your behalf. anyway, I signed up with them tongue.gif

for SCB it's totally different, i felt very comfortable with the clause, cause don't have all these "variation clause" but i didn't choose their Flexi loan becoz of i don't need the Flexibility to withdraw. for normal people like me who don't do business, flexi is very "harmful". for me if i put in money to settle the loan, i prefer the money to sit in there rather than take in an out, coz i still have to settle the loan no matter what. not to mention i have to pay RM200 setup fees and RM10 monthly maintenance fee, which i could put back in the loan to lower my interest
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I thought for Flexi Loans, when you dump in the money, you can reduce the tenor of the loan by many years. It could be 5 years shorter to finish the loan repayment.
If your monthly repayment is RM1000, for 5 years you pay less RM60,000.
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QUOTE(kayx @ May 19 2009, 05:07 PM)
i was offered loan with PBB and SCB.

when i read PBB's clause, they really "kiasi" put in a lot of clause to protect themself, and i feel very uncomfortable although i was offered BLR - 2.3% for entire tenure. my PBB banker told me, if you think that your bank has "unfairly" raised the interest, and you feel that you are "cheated" you can bring this case to Bank Negara who will "fight" on your behalf. anyway, I signed up with them tongue.gif

for SCB it's totally different, i felt very comfortable with the clause, cause don't have all these "variation clause" but i didn't choose their Flexi loan becoz of i don't need the Flexibility to withdraw. for normal people like me who don't do business, flexi is very "harmful". for me if i put in money to settle the loan, i prefer the money to sit in there rather than take in an out, coz i still have to settle the loan no matter what. not to mention i have to pay RM200 setup fees and RM10 monthly maintenance fee, which i could put back in the loan to lower my interest
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Mind to share what was your loan amount, package (homesave?), and whether its a non-ZEC? I'm currently looking at taking PBB's package as well. Their starting offer is BLR-1.9 although they say can nego.
How about SCB, what rates are they offering?
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Went to maybank, they gave some offer:

> RM250K loan
without Z.E.C. 2.38% (1st year), BLR-2.20% (thereafter)
with Z.E.C. 3.38% (1st year), BLR-2.00% (thereafter)

< RM250K loan
without Z.E.C. 2.38% (1st year), BLR-1.90% (thereafter)
with Z.E.C. 3.38% (1st year), BLR-1.70% (thereafter)

where Z.E.C. = Zero Entry Cost Promotion where bank will handle
-Processing Fee
-Legal Fees
-Disbursement Fee (up to 20K)

I'm planning to get something around RM280K, but I could pay RM100K up front, which
means I could just get a loan for 180K. Is this wise?

Should I get the Z.E.C or better to just get the non Z.E.C and hire some other party to deal with that. By they way what's Disbursement Fee?
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QUOTE(kayx @ May 19 2009, 05:07 PM)
i was offered loan with PBB and SCB.

when i read PBB's clause, they really "kiasi" put in a lot of clause to protect themself, and i feel very uncomfortable although i was offered BLR - 2.3% for entire tenure. my PBB banker told me, if you think that your bank has "unfairly" raised the interest, and you feel that you are "cheated" you can bring this case to Bank Negara who will "fight" on your behalf. anyway, I signed up with them tongue.gif

for SCB it's totally different, i felt very comfortable with the clause, cause don't have all these "variation clause" but i didn't choose their Flexi loan becoz of i don't need the Flexibility to withdraw. for normal people like me who don't do business, flexi is very "harmful". for me if i put in money to settle the loan, i prefer the money to sit in there rather than take in an out, coz i still have to settle the loan no matter what. not to mention i have to pay RM200 setup fees and RM10 monthly maintenance fee, which i could put back in the loan to lower my interest
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When I was comparing the loan packages, RM200 or RM 10 monthly is the least important factor. RM 10 per month is nothing nowadays.
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you think you can save 0.2% by going with non-ZEC, but get ZEC is better, in the end is cheaper or no difference smile.gif coz all the legal fees will cost you about 3% of the total loan cost. without non-ZEC you have to fork out 3% upfront, for me i cannot find the money to pay upfront.

beware of some banks who will finance your legal fees, which means, they will add in the legal fees into your loan, but that means they get to earn more money.. i.e. loan RM200k, legal fee = RM6k, so they loan you RM206k, and you have to pay the interest for this amount. if this is the case, why not you go for ZEC, where your loan is only RM200k still, but the difference in interest is 0.2%.

you can actually shop around and go direct to banks instead of getting some agent to do it for you.. this way you know you can evaluate and get the best deal, although it is more troublesome.. but i think if u eliminate a middleman, things are much more easier to follow up by going direct.


@yunalesca yeah RM10/month means nothing to you and me, but it means a lot to some ppl, why not use it for charity than benefit the bank!

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QUOTE(lawcl99 @ May 19 2009, 10:30 PM)
i want to refinancing my home for around RM100k for renovate, my salary around 3k monthly, can i know which bank has the best deal for house refinancing loan?
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Hard to tell which bank is the best. It's all depend on your needs and pacakge.
Will be help if can let us know what type of loan and pakcage you looking at.


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I thought for Flexi Loans, when you dump in the money, you can reduce the tenor of the loan by many years.  It could be 5 years shorter to finish the loan repayment.
If your monthly repayment is RM1000, for 5 years you pay less RM60,000.
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Yes,You are right, but not everyone will do so and understand the function of flexi loan clearly.


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QUOTE(cic.lemur @ May 20 2009, 10:21 AM)
Went to maybank, they gave some offer:

> RM250K loan
without Z.E.C. 2.38% (1st year), BLR-2.20% (thereafter)
with Z.E.C. 3.38% (1st year), BLR-2.00% (thereafter)

< RM250K loan
without Z.E.C. 2.38% (1st year), BLR-1.90% (thereafter)
with Z.E.C. 3.38% (1st year), BLR-1.70% (thereafter)

where Z.E.C. = Zero Entry Cost Promotion where bank will handle
-Processing Fee
-Legal Fees
-Disbursement Fee (up to 20K)

I'm planning to get something around RM280K, but I could pay RM100K up front, which
means I could just get a loan for 180K. Is this wise?

Should I get the Z.E.C or better to just get the non Z.E.C and hire some other party to deal with that. By they way what's Disbursement Fee?
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If you have the RM100k, you can get the flexi loan and just dump in the RM100k in. By doing so, you can have the RM100k cash flow to use for emergency and you can enjoy the better rate and pay interest for RM180k only. But the cost will be abit extra in legal free and stamp duty.


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QUOTE(yunalesca @ May 20 2009, 03:28 PM)
When I was comparing the loan packages, RM200 or RM 10 monthly is the least important factor. RM 10 per month is nothing nowadays.
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Apple with orange how to compare? Both are different pacakge.



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you think you can save 0.2% by going with non-ZEC, but get ZEC is better, in the end is cheaper or no difference smile.gif coz all the legal fees will cost you about 3% of the total loan cost. without non-ZEC you have to fork out 3% upfront, for me i cannot find the money to pay upfront.

beware of some banks who will finance your legal fees, which means, they will add in the legal fees into your loan, but that means they get to earn more money.. i.e. loan RM200k, legal fee = RM6k, so they loan you RM206k, and you have to pay the interest for this amount. if this is the case, why not you go for ZEC, where your loan is only RM200k still, but the difference in interest is 0.2%.

you can actually shop around and go direct to banks instead of getting some agent to do it for you.. this way you know you can evaluate and get the best deal, although it is more troublesome.. but i think if u eliminate a middleman, things are much more easier to follow up by going direct.
@yunalesca yeah RM10/month means nothing to you and me, but it means a lot to some ppl, why not use it for charity than benefit the bank!
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you think you can save 0.2% by going with non-ZEC, but get ZEC is better, in the end is cheaper or no difference smile.gif coz all the legal fees will cost you about 3% of the total loan cost. without non-ZEC you have to fork out 3% upfront, for me i cannot find the money to pay upfront.

beware of some banks who will finance your legal fees, which means, they will add in the legal fees into your loan, but that means they get to earn more money.. i.e. loan RM200k, legal fee = RM6k, so they loan you RM206k, and you have to pay the interest for this amount. if this is the case, why not you go for ZEC, where your loan is only RM200k still, but the difference in interest is 0.2%.

you can actually shop around and go direct to banks instead of getting some agent to do it for you.. this way you know you can evaluate and get the best deal, although it is more troublesome.. but i think if u eliminate a middleman, things are much more easier to follow up by going direct.
@yunalesca yeah RM10/month means nothing to you and me, but it means a lot to some ppl, why not use it for charity than benefit the bank!
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Actually not all the agent also bad and not standing behalf of clients.
As i'm also agents in helping clients to save interest and get the best loan package from any bank. My job is to get the best offer from few banks and let my clients to choose for it. My clients no need to go throught every banks and wasting their time there. And most important my service is totally free of charge and there's no different or extra cost if you walk in to banks yourself.

Yes,RM10 is nothing nowadays, but if you can use RM10 and saved <RM10, then you did a smart choice. smile.gif

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haha.. i used RM0 to save >RM10

anyway, flexi loan or term loan.. if loan amount is RM100k, still have to service RM100k of loan.. nowadays got banks with term loan that does something like flexi loan.. (reduce interest if you put in more money, just a little more hassle to take out the money). for flexi, if i keep on put in and take money out frequently.. also don't really help to shorten the tenure much. for me, i think if i borrow money.. better to make constant payment and extra payment to shorten the tenure.. coz a loan is still a loan.

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i am not happy that they charges RM 10 every month for flexi loan package.
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i am not happy that they charges RM 10 every month for flexi loan package.
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actually its not the loan that charge you RM10/month, but because your Flexi loan is tied to a current account, so you are "forced" to pay to maintain that account.
banks actually get to earn a lot through promoting flexi loan because they can "cross sell" their other products.

banks tell you the advantage of flexi loan, they don't lie and it's true what they say, but in actual... will you require to constantly take out money and put it in again? and although u get the flexibility to withdraw your money, if you do it often enough, the savings becomes minimal and the interest you pay still more of less the same. other than that, they also hope you will also take advantage of their overdraft, and they get to earn more again. so flexi-loan is really suitable for businessman, instead of poor man like me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kayx @ May 21 2009, 11:58 AM)
haha.. i used RM0 to save >RM10

anyway, flexi loan or term loan.. if loan amount is RM100k, still have to service RM100k of loan.. nowadays got banks with term loan that does something like flexi loan.. (reduce interest if you put in more money, just a little more hassle to take out the money). for flexi, if i keep on put in and take money out frequently.. also don't really help to shorten the tenure much. for me, i think if i borrow money.. better to make constant payment and extra payment to shorten the tenure.. coz  a loan is still a loan.
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That's called semi-flexi loan. It have no monthly fee of RM10 but will charge RM20-RM50 per transaction to withdraw the extra payment.

Well, different people have different way to manage their cash flow. If you not goin to using your cash flow to save interest, of cause flexi loan is not suitable for you. No point for you to take flexi loan at all.

Let's take an example,
If you put in your salary of RM5k every month and take out all RM5k at the end of each month.
Assume interest rate is BLR-2% whole tenure.
With your flexi loan you may shorten your RM350k 30years loan to 29.6years. Do everyone know it? Some may know some may not.
By doing this,
You saved RM1581 x 4mth = RM6324 (monthly saved by installment)
You paid RM10 x 354mth = RM 3540 (monthy RM10 you paid)
And your total interest saved =RM7599
Total saved = RM6324 - RM3540 + RM7599 = RM10383 total saved at the end when you do settlement
You paid RM3540 to save RM10383, is that little?

Maybe for someone is little, but why not everyone also save it and give the money that we saved to charity?
The RM10383 you give to charity wil help more people instead of RM3540.

A loan is a loan, no matter what pacakge either flexi, semi-flexi or normal term loan,we still own the bank money if we borrow from them. There is no package in this world that let you borrow RM100k today and tomoro straight away become RM90k outstanding without doin anything.
(If anyone know such package, please let me know too, biggrin.gif )
It just depend on ourself to use our money in the smart way for interest saving and utilies whatever facility (in this case flexi loan) the bank offer to us.
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QUOTE(kayx @ May 21 2009, 02:35 PM)
actually its not the loan that charge you RM10/month, but because your Flexi loan is tied to a current account, so you are "forced" to pay to maintain that account.
banks actually get to earn a lot through promoting flexi loan because they can "cross sell" their other products.

banks tell you the advantage of flexi loan, they don't lie and it's true what they say, but in actual... will you require to constantly take out money and put it in again? and although u get the flexibility to withdraw your money, if you do it often enough, the savings becomes minimal and the interest you pay still more of less the same. other than that, they also hope you will also take advantage of their overdraft, and they get to earn more again. so flexi-loan is really suitable for businessman, instead of poor man like me tongue.gif
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actually I know what and why, but I disagree with the kind of setup. Business wise, it is BEST to have one account for one purpose, with clear purpose at the very beginning. Combining your business risk into your suppose-to-be a safe habour is basically exposing your personal asset into business risk. which is why quite a few 'successful' business men get into problem eventually. real story here

the fact that bank gives a better loan rate to flexi loan and not traditional loan tells that they love to see you gets into trouble eventually.
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actually I know what and why, but I disagree with the kind of setup.  Business wise, it is BEST to have one account for one purpose, with clear purpose at the very beginning.  Combining your business risk into your suppose-to-be a safe habour is basically exposing your personal asset into business risk.  which is why quite a few 'successful' business men get into problem eventually.  real story here

the fact that bank gives a better loan rate to flexi loan and not traditional loan tells that they love to see you gets into trouble eventually.
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Which bank give better loan rate to flexi loan then traditional loan? I wonder.
From what i know is flexi loan normally 0.2% higher then traditional loan in the market.

The story in the article, is nothing to do with flexi loan. They commited suicide because they losing their fortune from investment. They not die for using flexi loan.
Business risk is mainly come from our judgement when running the business and business model itself. Does any one will take the bank as their main business risk? I believe there's no any company or shop that are not using bank to keep their money nowaday. Simply because the bank is still the best and safe place to put in our cash money. Even it's in our pocket, i feel not safe too. Any company owner or shop owner like to keep all their money in company or shop or pocket?

Using flexi loan is not investment. It just a service that bank offer to us. We wouldn't earn anythings from it. We only save somethings from it.
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Which bank give better loan rate to flexi loan then traditional loan? I wonder.
From what i know is flexi loan normally 0.2% higher then traditional loan in the market.

The story in the article, is nothing to do with flexi loan. They commited suicide because they losing their fortune from investment. They not die for using flexi loan.
Business risk is mainly come from our judgement when running the business and business model itself. Does any one will take the bank as their main business risk? I believe there's no any company or shop that are not using bank to keep their money nowaday. Simply because the bank is still the best and safe place to put in our cash money. Even it's in our pocket, i feel not safe too. Any company owner or shop owner like to keep all their money in company or shop or pocket?

Using flexi loan is not investment. It just a service that bank offer to us. We wouldn't earn anythings from it. We only save somethings from it.
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I hope you are right that traditional loan rate is lower, coz std chart, hsbc so far want to quote me higher on term loan forcing me to take their flexi loan.
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QUOTE(mtsen @ May 21 2009, 03:57 PM)
actually I know what and why, but I disagree with the kind of setup.  Business wise, it is BEST to have one account for one purpose, with clear purpose at the very beginning.   Combining your business risk into your suppose-to-be a safe habour is basically exposing your personal asset into business risk.  which is why quite a few 'successful' business men get into problem eventually.  real story here

the fact that bank gives a better loan rate to flexi loan and not traditional loan tells that they love to see you gets into trouble eventually.
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some of us have the right approach and thinking when it comes to business.. i.e. safe harbor between personal asset and business risk, diversify your investment.. etc.. but then we still keep reading news of people falling into scams, owe ah long money cannot pay then kena harass.. people should know better, but then sometimes either people forget, or forced out of desperation.. and like the articles show.. act out of mindless irrational greed..

i don't condemn banks or the type of packages they sell.. but then.. everyone should never bite of more than they can chew.. somethings are like a knife.. used properly it will help you.. used wrongly.. it can hurt or killl you..

@onnying88 - correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that semi-term loan and flexi loan do daily rest calculation of your interest, so your interest is dependent on the amount owed to the bank at the time of calculation am i right? which means if i borrow RM200k from bank.. lets say monthly installment is RM1200/month.. but assume i pay RM1500/month and never take out any money at all.. my loan period will shorten right.. so the loan shorten loan period is still the reduced by the same amount no matter if i take term/semi-term/flexi loan right?


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I hope you are right that traditional loan rate is lower, coz std chart, hsbc so far want to quote me higher on term loan forcing me to take their flexi loan.
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i never managed to compare flexi and term from a single bank... don't ever recall any banks i contacted offer both.. fyi, i shopped around with SCB, HLB, PBB, Alliance, and OCBC

but what i was offered - SCB flexi higher (BLR-2.1) than PBB semi-term (BLR-2.2) for ZEC package.



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that was my point, with flexi, you are tempted to chew bigger than you can, chances to fail is higher.

comparing loan rate btw diff bank has no implication on flexi vs term loan.

actually term loan can have the SAME effect as the flex, the only extra thing to do is that you should contact the bank prior to bank in the extra money - which is one extra step. The con is troublesome, the Pro however, is you can specify any instruction when making such official request - be it reduce principal or clear up the interest.

but the flexi is already built in and you cann't request any different calculation method.
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I hope you are right that traditional loan rate is lower, coz std chart, hsbc so far want to quote me higher on term loan forcing me to take their flexi loan.
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This is why seldom people go to full flexi's bank to take term loan. Both SC and HSBC straight away give you flexi loan once you apply loan from them. They are few banks that encourage people to use flexi loan. So if you asking for term loan, they might not interested to deal with you also.

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This is why seldom people go to full flexi's bank to take term loan. Both SC and HSBC straight away give you flexi loan once you apply loan from them. They are few banks that encourage people to use flexi loan. So if you asking for term loan, they might not interested to deal with you also.
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I think ya I have just learned about that too, but all is not lost. Both banks are still reviewing my appeal, I still hope they can come back to me with term loan and lower rate biggrin.gif
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some of us have the right approach and thinking when it comes to business.. i.e. safe harbor between personal asset and business risk, diversify your investment.. etc.. but then we still keep reading news of people falling into scams, owe ah long money cannot pay then kena harass.. people should know better, but then sometimes either people forget, or forced out of desperation.. and like the articles show.. act out of mindless irrational greed..

i don't condemn banks or the type of packages they sell.. but then.. everyone should never bite of more than they can chew.. somethings are like a knife.. used properly it will help you.. used wrongly.. it can hurt or killl you..

@onnying88 - correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that semi-term loan and flexi loan do daily rest calculation of your interest, so your interest is dependent on the amount owed to the bank at the time of calculation am i right? which means if i borrow RM200k from bank.. lets say monthly installment is RM1200/month.. but assume i pay RM1500/month and never take out any money at all.. my loan period will shorten right.. so the loan shorten loan period is still the reduced by the same amount no matter if i take term/semi-term/flexi loan right?
I still not understand what's the relationship between business and flexi loan you tring to say here.
The example i show above is never link to any business account or whatever. It just assume that you put your monthly income which is RM5k and use up RM5k the end of every month. You put NO EXTRA MONEY inside the account or bank at the end of the month. I don't see anythings wrong or harmful or different to personal or our business. You just earn money and spend money as usual.

Yes, both semi flexi or flexi are usually using daily rest to calculate interest nowaday,unless stated in your Loan Agreement. In your example, YES, both package also shorten your tenure in the same time as long the interest rate is same. Because you paying the SAME EXTRA MONEY also. But what's i'm trying to show in my previous example, by using flexi loan, you can shorten your tenure even more by paying NO EXTRA MONEY to the loan.


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that was my point, with flexi, you are tempted to chew bigger than you can, chances to fail is higher.

comparing loan rate btw diff bank has no implication on flexi vs term loan.

actually term loan can have the SAME effect as the flex, the only extra thing to do is that you should contact the bank prior to bank in the extra money - which is one extra step.  The con is troublesome, the Pro however, is you can specify any instruction when making such official request - be it reduce principal or clear up the interest.

but the flexi is already built in and you cann't request any different calculation method.
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How can we fail by using flexi loan? we are not investing our money in flexi to earn money, we just put our money that we usually put in bank, This time will be the same bank that we apply the loan, to save money in term of interest.

Yes, i agree that all the loan is the same, we borrow money and pay interest for it. That's what a loan is.

The con is not only troublesome. Did you count in the money you spend to make 2 trip to the bank to make the extra payment? One for summit the letter to inform the bank and second trip after approved to dump money, you need to go to bank and transfer the money. Parking? fuel? time?
I recall in the earlier post, some one get an offer from RHB bank term loan that even require us to pay 2% for the extra payment you make.

Reduce principal or clear up the interest, i dunno what's the different there, what's the different calculation we need in flexi loan? hmm.gif

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I've just merged some of the related flexi threads together.
So you guys might want to continue there if we're going to debate about the loan structures and all wink.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/555063
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helo..

I'm planning to buy a condo. Unit price at 196k. Plan to take 90% loan with 30 yrs.

I have seen some loan packages in www.money3.com.my, currently i would prefer Maybank package which offering:
Year 1: 2.38% fixed
Year 2- End: BLR -2.2%
As stated, the minimum amount > 100k. Anyone has taken the similar pakcage from Maybank?

Else any other suggestions? Appreciate ur inputs.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 21 2009, 06:35 PM)
I still not understand what's the relationship between business and flexi loan you tring to say here.
The example i show above is never link to any business account or whatever. It just assume that you put your monthly income which is RM5k and use up RM5k the end of every month. You put NO EXTRA MONEY inside the account or bank at the end of the month. I don't see anythings wrong or harmful or different to personal or our business. You just earn money and spend money as usual.

Yes, both semi flexi or flexi are usually using daily rest to calculate interest nowaday,unless stated in your Loan Agreement. In your example, YES, both package also shorten your tenure in the same time as long the interest rate is same. Because you paying the SAME EXTRA MONEY also. But what's i'm trying to show in my previous example, by using flexi loan, you can shorten your tenure even more by paying NO EXTRA MONEY to the loan.


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How can we fail by using flexi loan? we are not investing our money in flexi to earn money, we just put our money that we usually put in bank, This time will be the same bank that we apply the loan, to save money in term of interest.

Yes, i agree that all the loan is the same, we borrow money and pay interest for it. That's what a loan is.

The con is not only troublesome. Did you count in the money you spend to make 2 trip to the bank to make the extra payment? One for summit the letter to inform the bank and second trip after approved to dump money, you need to go to bank and transfer the money. Parking? fuel? time?
I recall in the earlier post, some one get an offer from RHB bank term loan that even require us to pay 2% for the extra payment you make.

Reduce principal or clear up the interest, i dunno what's the different there, what's the different calculation we need in flexi loan?  hmm.gif
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ok, my apology and let me restart. flexi loan does have more 'flexible' features than normal house loan. But to 'actually' enjoy those benefits, one really need to (1) really understand personal finance and (2) have good self discipline.

But as far as what I can observed for the past 6-7 years, human nature are just born to fail above 2 requirements. Most ended up withdrawing more and depositing so less frequent.

some did enjoy great benefits from the RM 10 monthly fee, but most done ... its just my statistical observation.
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ok, my apology and let me restart.  flexi loan does have more 'flexible' features than normal house loan.  But to 'actually' enjoy those benefits, one really need to (1) really understand personal finance and (2) have good self discipline.

But as far as what I can observed for the past 6-7 years, human nature are just born to fail above 2 requirements.  Most ended up withdrawing more and depositing so less frequent.

some did enjoy great benefits from the RM 10 monthly fee, but most done ... its just my statistical observation.
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First of all, no need to apology la, we just sharing our opinion here only tongue.gif

Yup, i totally agree with you. We need to have (1) and (2) in order to fully utilies Flexi loan and it's function.
It's same apply to credit card, it may be very usefull and save money if we have (1) and (2),

Statistic show that most of the majority doesn't have (1) and (2), and human nature are just born to fail above 2 requirements, But will this continue in future? Human will always learn from failure and improve from it. I believe this is why human is dominating the earth now. That's what i believe, with proper educate and by time, people will have better (1) and (2).

That's what's my job doing now for all my client. I wouldn't simply let my client to take flexi loan if they does not know how it works and what is it. I will always educate my client with banking info and how does mortgage loan working first. From there i can understand my clients needs and propose the best loan package to them. You and i know that flexi loan need to have (1) and (2) to enjoy the benefit,so do my clients. By consulting and educate my clients about (1) and (2),Mostly of my client will take flexi loan in the end, Simply because we know flexi loan does really save interest for us. smile.gif
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First of all, no need to apology la, we just sharing our opinion here only  tongue.gif

Yup, i totally agree with you. We need to have (1) and (2) in order to fully utilies Flexi loan and it's function.
It's same apply to credit card, it may be very usefull and save money if we have (1) and (2),

Statistic show that most of the majority doesn't have (1) and (2), and human nature are just born to fail above 2 requirements, But will this continue in future? Human will always learn from failure and improve from it. I believe this is why human is dominating the earth now. That's what i believe, with proper educate and by time, people will have better (1) and (2).

That's what's my job doing now for all my client. I wouldn't simply let my client to take flexi loan if they does not know how it works and what is it. I will always educate my client with banking info and how does mortgage loan working first. From there i can understand my clients needs and propose the best loan package to them. You and i know that flexi loan need to have (1) and (2) to enjoy the benefit,so do my clients. By consulting and educate my clients about (1) and (2),Mostly of my client will take flexi loan in the end, Simply because we know flexi loan does really save interest for us. smile.gif
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good, u do it the positive way, i do it the 'negative' ways, perhaps we can cover all ground that way biggrin.gif
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good, u do it the positive way, i do it the 'negative' ways, perhaps we can cover all ground that way biggrin.gif
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That's what i hope too. If the bank give us chance to save money, just use it. Don't let the bank suck our hard earn money. smile.gif
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helo..

I'm planning to buy a condo. Unit price at 196k. Plan to take 90% loan with 30 yrs.

I have seen some loan packages in www.money3.com.my, currently i would prefer Maybank package which offering:
Year 1: 2.38% fixed
Year 2- End: BLR -2.2%
As stated, the minimum amount > 100k. Anyone has taken the similar pakcage from Maybank?

Else any other suggestions? Appreciate ur inputs.

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helo..

I'm planning to buy a condo. Unit price at 196k. Plan to take 90% loan with 30 yrs.

I have seen some loan packages in www.money3.com.my, currently i would prefer Maybank package which offering:
Year 1: 2.38% fixed
Year 2- End: BLR -2.2%
As stated, the minimum amount > 100k. Anyone has taken the similar pakcage from Maybank?

Else any other suggestions? Appreciate ur inputs.

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I believe with this rate, It's normal conventional loan with Non-ZEC package and compulsary to take their MRTA. Maybe you have no choice to choose others insurance like MLTA for your loan.
Well, in term of rate, it's not a bad offer too. smile.gif
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I believe with this rate, It's normal conventional loan with Non-ZEC package and compulsary to take their MRTA. Maybe you have no choice to choose others insurance like MLTA for your loan.
Well, in term of rate, it's not a bad offer too. smile.gif
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Thanks.. My main objective is to have lesser monthly installment for at least the 1st year. And i see this package suit me well. Yes, there is concern on the MLTA/MRTA. Personally i prefer MLTA.
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i want to refinance my home loan ...... which one is better,
do refinance with the same bank or with other bank.???

currently my loan is with cimb & plan to switch to mayban .... is it ok?? both give me same interest rate but mayban give 'no penalty fee'...
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i want to refinance my home loan ...... which one is better,
do refinance with the same bank or with other bank.???

currently my loan is with cimb & plan to switch to mayban .... is it ok?? both give me same interest rate but mayban give 'no penalty fee'...
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get from maybank, then show maybank's offer to cimb and ask them to match. if cimb match, good. else switch.

according to http://www.malpf.com/ best deal is now Affin Bank BLR - 2.3% but there are many other considerations also in house loan.

good luck !
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QUOTE(mtsen @ May 25 2009, 11:09 AM)
get from maybank, then show maybank's offer to cimb and ask them to match.  if cimb match, good.  else switch.

according to http://www.malpf.com/ best deal is now Affin Bank BLR - 2.3% but there are many other considerations also in house loan.

good luck !
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for refinancing, do you have to pay penalty to CIMB if u switch?
when u switch to Maybank, is it zero entry cost, meaning the legal fees and valuation fee all covered by maybank?
these are some of the thing you should consider.

as for lower interest, especially for new house loan, the rate of disbursement also matter, no use if give a slightly lower rate but the disbursement slow end up paying penalty fee. then should also consider the customer service also (rarely we will encounter/require this unless got problem with the loan), who will pass you around the internal department until you also pengsan.. affin, eon bank gives very low rate but my friend in banking tells me their customer service not very good.
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QUOTE(kayx @ May 25 2009, 01:06 PM)
for refinancing, do you have to pay penalty to CIMB if u switch?
when u switch to Maybank, is it zero entry cost, meaning the legal fees and valuation fee all covered by maybank?
these are some of the thing you should consider.

as for lower interest, especially for new house loan, the rate of disbursement also matter, no use if give a slightly lower rate but the disbursement slow end up paying penalty fee. then should also consider the customer service also (rarely we will encounter/require this unless got problem with the loan), who will pass you around the internal department until you also pengsan.. affin, eon bank gives very low rate but my friend in banking tells me their customer service not very good.
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mayban - ZEC & will absorb the penalty fee too & interest rate @ blr -1.7%

cimb - ZEC but to pay penalty fee (3% from loan amount) & interest rate @ blr -1.95%


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u said earlier ur loan from cimb.. why u change from cimb to cimb? then some more have to pay penalty fee? cannot ask cimb (ur current loan provider) to reduce the BLR for you? you can do that you know.. less hassle.

maybank absorb ur penalty? so good? but are they really absorbing your penalty or they add into your total loan amount?
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u said earlier ur loan from cimb.. why u change from cimb to cimb? then some more have to pay penalty fee? cannot ask cimb (ur current loan provider) to reduce the BLR for you? you can do that you know.. less hassle.

maybank absorb ur penalty? so good? but are they really absorbing your penalty or they add into your total loan amount?
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if i choose cimb, the process is much easier & quicker than other bank.

& i can ask to reduce BLR but will never get the same BLR like a new application or refinance.

but within 3.6% (cimb) & 3.85%(mayban) ..... different payment about rm14/mth but mrta compulsary for mayban

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what i did was i did a calculation for both scenario.
get a good mortage calculator from the net, normally in excel format. i got one from here http://www.vertex42.com/ExcelTemplates/arm-calculator.html
to compute different scenarios, 3.6% or 3.85% in your case.. to find out the total payment i paid in 30 years. add in some MRTA or penalty fee and see which is more worth it..
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Would like to confirm what is the best housing loan rate i can get ..

Loan amount = RM 350K
MRTA = NOT include

Currently my offer is BLR - 2.2% ....possible any other bank can offer better rate ?
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Hi All,

Would like to confirm what is the best housing loan rate i can get ..

Loan amount = RM 350K
MRTA          = NOT include

Currently my offer is BLR - 2.2% ....possible any other bank can offer better rate ?
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BLR-2.2% is ZEC ?
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Hi Onnying,

the bank will absorb the legal fees and stamp ....but we still need to pay the penalty
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Hi Onnying,

the bank will absorb the legal fees and stamp ....but we still need to pay the penalty
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Well, BLR-2.2% is not bad for ZEC. But nothing is impossible too, just get the letter offer of that BLR-2.2% and show to others bank. See what the others bank offer you. No harm to try right smile.gif

May i know this offer from which bank? flexi loan or normal conventional loan?

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offering BLR-2.30% ZEC (flexi / conventional loan)
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offering BLR-2.20% ZEC (flexi / conventional loan)
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QUOTE(hiro-san @ May 29 2009, 01:46 AM)
offering BLR-2.30% ZEC (flexi / conventional loan)
loan rm500k and above

offering BLR-2.20% ZEC (flexi / conventional loan)
loan rm250k and above

T&C apply..

interested pls contact me at 012-2073139
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i am taking a loan from PBB... 160k.. at -2% for 30 years..
is this good or can i get a better loan..
tried with OUB and Alliance... only get same as -2% and -1.8% resepctively...
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i am taking a loan from PBB... 160k.. at -2% for 30 years..
is this good or can i get a better loan..
tried with OUB and Alliance... only get same as -2% and -1.8% resepctively...
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It's ZEC or NZEC?
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hey guys, usually how much is the legal fees for non zero moving cost loan package, let say 180k for refinance?

Thanks! smile.gif

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i am buying 2nd hand landed house at RM 200k. Which bank is offer the best BLR? NZEC or ZEC will do...
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i am taking a loan from PBB... 160k.. at -2% for 30 years..
is this good or can i get a better loan..
tried with OUB and Alliance... only get same as -2% and -1.8% resepctively...
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Hi, is this a flexi loan from PBB? And is it a Zero Entry cost loan? Thanks
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Hi, is this a flexi loan from PBB? And is it a Zero Entry cost loan? Thanks
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i think it should be semi-flexi or conventional loan from PBB. As PBB seldom get -2% for flexi.
Correct me if i'm wrong. smile.gif
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Guys, i have a dumb question. blush.gif
I am 26years old, 30k savings, EPF can take out 10k for house purchase, salary 2.6k... cry.gif
Is it a good idea to buy a 300k unit? or should i wait for a couple more years..?
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QUOTE(RedSox2004 @ Jun 7 2009, 07:53 PM)
Guys, i have a dumb question.  blush.gif
I am 26years old, 30k savings, EPF can take out 10k for house purchase, salary 2.6k... cry.gif
Is it a good idea to buy a 300k unit? or should i wait for a couple more years..?
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I don't think you can get a loan with salary 2.6k.
As your information, 300k loan for 30years, BLR-2.2%, already RM1323 per month.
It's more then 50% amount of your salary. It will be very hard to get the loan approve.

With 30k saving and 10k from EFP, it's surely not enough to get a RM300k house ready to stay.
10% Down payment, Renovation, Furniture and etc etc.

Hope you think twice before commit in.



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I don't think you can get a loan with salary 2.6k.
As your information, 300k loan for 30years, BLR-2.2%, already RM1323 per month.
It's more then 50% amount of your salary. It will be very hard to get the loan approve.

With 30k saving and 10k from EFP, it's surely not enough to get a RM300k house ready to stay.
10% Down payment, Renovation, Furniture and etc etc.

Hope you think twice before commit in.
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Hey guys,

I got offer from Alliance bank on -2.15% on Islamic flexi loan , besides, i also got PBB terms loan offer on -2.25%

Not sure which one should go .... Alliance bank offer will not need to paid RM10 as maintenance and setup fees ...


Added on June 8, 2009, 2:26 pmi think this is the best offer i got so far .....

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I am in the midst of purchasing my first home

Developer: Securiservices
Project: 1Petaling@Sg. Besi
Encumbrance: No
Property Price: RM249,888


I am currently secured a loan package which is:
0% - 1st Year
BLR-2% - Thereafter
First 3 years progressive interest will be on developer. Pay nothing until VP.

Any one here has better loan package information to shared?
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QUOTE(junwen80 @ Jun 9 2009, 05:14 PM)
I am in the midst of purchasing my first home

Developer: Securiservices
Project: 1Petaling@Sg. Besi
Encumbrance: No
Property Price: RM249,888
I am currently secured a loan package which is:
0% - 1st Year
BLR-2% - Thereafter
First 3 years progressive interest will be on developer. Pay nothing until VP.

Any one here has better loan package information to shared?
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I've visited the 1petaling's show unit, looks very nice smile.gif
I think it's the best you can get as it's offer from the panel bank. All 3 panel banks also offer the same rate.
Unless you looking for somethings extra.

My personal advise,start pay your installment right after you get the loan, to enjoy the 0% interest instead of paying nothing and start paying interest with -2% at full loan amount. All the money you paying when 0% interest,100% will go to principle. smile.gif
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I've visited the 1petaling's show unit, looks very nice smile.gif
I think it's the best you can get as it's offer from the panel bank. All 3 panel banks also offer the same rate.
Unless you looking for somethings extra.

My personal advise,start pay your installment right after you get the loan, to enjoy the 0% interest instead of paying nothing and start paying interest with -2% at full loan amount. All the money you paying when 0% interest,100% will go to principle. smile.gif
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Hoho, I wish I can do so. FYI, I have talked to the banker, they said if I start the installment before the last disbursement, I may not be able to get the free interest during construction period, means I have to pay the progressive interest.

Anyway, my personal view, is not to start paying now. I will saved up (or even invest) $1000/month for 3years = $36000, then at my 1st installment after I have obtained VP, make a lumpsum prepayment. It should save more interest by this way, somehow equal to 2nd chance for downpayment.

Correct me if I am wrong or I am to naive to believe bank will allows me to do so.
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QUOTE(junwen80 @ Jun 10 2009, 06:14 PM)
Hoho, I wish I can do so. FYI, I have talked to the banker, they said if I start the installment before the last disbursement, I may not be able to get the free interest during construction period, means I have to pay the progressive interest.

Anyway, my personal view, is not to start paying now. I will saved up (or even invest) $1000/month for 3years = $36000, then at my 1st installment after I have obtained VP, make a lumpsum prepayment. It should save more interest by this way, somehow equal to 2nd chance for downpayment.

Correct me if I am wrong or I am to naive to believe bank will allows me to do so.
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Ya,that's the way to do that if the bank not allow to start pay when the loan start.
Just start keeping the monthly installment from the loan starting and once the loan fully disburse, take the money that saved and make a prepayment. smile.gif
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Thanks for your confirmation.

Actually I contacted Hong Leong too, but they seems not very interest in getting the project into their system. Somehow, I am still not able get a deal better than BLR-2% with Developer Interest Bearing Schema (and it is NZMC!).

Get another back with same package but ZMC is my dream now.. wink.gif
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Thanks for your confirmation.

Actually I contacted Hong Leong too, but they seems not very interest in getting the project into their system. Somehow, I am still not able get a deal better than BLR-2% with Developer Interest Bearing Schema (and it is NZMC!).

Get another back with same package but ZMC is my dream now.. wink.gif
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Normally only the panel bank of the new project will be offer ZEC with special rate like 0% first few years.
Others then the panel bank, they wouldn't take so much risk to offer better because they dunno what's the company profile and what will be the value for the property when finish build.
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Just for your info, 1Petaling panel banks do not offer ZMC.
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QUOTE(junwen80 @ Jun 9 2009, 05:14 PM)
I am in the midst of purchasing my first home

Developer: Securiservices
Project: 1Petaling@Sg. Besi
Encumbrance: No
Property Price: RM249,888
I am currently secured a loan package which is:
0% - 1st Year
BLR-2% - Thereafter
First 3 years progressive interest will be on developer. Pay nothing until VP.

Any one here has better loan package information to shared?
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First 3 years interest by developer:
Jun 09 -> Jun 10 : No need pay bank
Jun 10 -> Jun 11 : No need pay bank
Jun 11 -> Jun 12 : No need pay bank
Jun 12 -> Jun 13 : 0% First year = No need pay bank
Jun 13 onwards : BLR - 2. Start pay bank loan.

Is this correct? Sounds good.


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QUOTE(yunalesca @ Jun 12 2009, 04:06 PM)
First 3 years interest by developer:
Jun 09 -> Jun 10 : No need pay bank
Jun 10 -> Jun 11 : No need pay bank
Jun 11 -> Jun 12 : No need pay bank
Jun 12 -> Jun 13 : 0% First year = No need pay bank
Jun 13 onwards  : BLR - 2. Start pay bank loan.

Is this correct? Sounds good.
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If like that, that mean we can save up to 4 years instalment and use it as our 2nd deposit. Hence, lower interest charges..
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i am interested in getting a loan and mortgage as well.

do contact me via PM.

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QUOTE(yunalesca @ Jun 12 2009, 04:06 PM)
First 3 years interest by developer:
Jun 09 -> Jun 10 : No need pay bank
Jun 10 -> Jun 11 : No need pay bank
Jun 11 -> Jun 12 : No need pay bank
Jun 12 -> Jun 13 : 0% First year = No need pay bank
Jun 13 onwards  : BLR - 2. Start pay bank loan.

Is this correct? Sounds good.
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No No. Too good to be true.

Actual scene:

First 3 years interest by developer:
Jun 09 -> Jun 10 : 0% First year, no one need to pay.
Jun 10 -> Jun 11 : BLR - 2, Pay by developer
Jun 11 -> Jun 12 : BLR - 2, Pay by developer
Jun 12 onwards : BLR - 2 Start installment

The plus point is, can save up 3 years installment for a lumpsum prepayment (like top up downpayment)..... Although who knows after 3 years what is the rate of BLR...

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Hi,

With reference to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/974761, I have a couple of questions in regards to paying instalments during construction period.

Please refer to the last post of the thread.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(yunalesca @ Jun 12 2009, 04:06 PM)
First 3 years interest by developer:
Jun 09 -> Jun 10 : No need pay bank
Jun 10 -> Jun 11 : No need pay bank
Jun 11 -> Jun 12 : No need pay bank
Jun 12 -> Jun 13 : 0% First year = No need pay bank
Jun 13 onwards  : BLR - 2. Start pay bank loan.

Is this correct? Sounds good.
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Usually this offers is for under-con development.
I.e. during the under-con period; developer would pay the interest charged.
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which package should i go for? If i do the calculation in the full 20 years term, I will save more with package B but lets say I refinance again in 6 years time, then will package A be better? Opinions please - thank you

A
1. principle - 439k
2. term - 20 years
3. free moving cost
4. BLR-2.2%
5. Lock in period - 5 years
6. penalty for early settlement - 5%


or


B
1. principle - 439k + 6.9k= 445,900
2. term - 20 years
3. moving cost ownself pay by adding RM6900 to principle
4. BLR-2.4%
5. Lockin period - 5 years
6. Penalty - 3%

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 17 2009, 09:04 PM)
which package should i go for? If i do the calculation in the full 20 years term, I will save more with package B but lets say I refinance again in 6 years time, then will package A be better? Opinions please - thank you

A
1. principle - 439k
2. term - 20 years
3. free moving cost
4. BLR-2.2%
5. Lock in period - 5 years
6. penalty for early settlement - 5%
or
B
1. principle - 439k + 6.9k= 445,900
2. term - 20 years
3. moving cost ownself pay by adding RM6900 to principle
4. BLR-2.4%
5. Lockin period - 3 years
6. Penalty - 3%
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For me, I'll go with package B anytime. drool.gif
First of all, you don't know what's going to happen in the future, Lets say you want to refinance or settle after 3 years, then you won't be hit by the penalty if you're taking package B. And the penalty is 3% for B vs. 5% for A, not to mention the lock in period.
Just my 2 sens.

By the way, which bank is this? Is it OCBC?
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I am in the midst of studying the terms involved in purchasing house, therefore i would like to know what is the meaning of below terms.

1. Lock in period ?

2. Choice of term loan or combination of term loan and overdraft
what is that term loan? overdraft?

3. Redraw facility available?

If someone could enlighten really appreciated :0

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which package should i go for? If i do the calculation in the full 20 years term, I will save more with package B but lets say I refinance again in 6 years time, then will package A be better? Opinions please - thank you

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2. term - 20 years
3. free moving cost
4. BLR-2.2%
5. Lock in period - 5 years
6. penalty for early settlement - 5%
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2. term - 20 years
3. moving cost ownself pay by adding RM6900 to principle
4. BLR-2.4%
5. Lockin period - 3 years
6. Penalty - 3%
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sorry i made a big mistake - the locked in period is 5 years for both plans.

now my other deciding factor is - full flexi (EON) or no flexi (OUB or OCBC)
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Let see here..

my steady income is around 4.5K/ month, can fork out up to 20k for downpayment. My age is around 24...

Should be able to get a 300k loan for a house ?

A simple answer would be great... Thank you
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Let see here..

my steady income is around 4.5K/ month, can fork out up to 20k for downpayment. My age is around 24...

Should be able to get a 300k loan for a house ?

A simple answer would be great... Thank you
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No problem provided you have no others debt. smile.gif

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QUOTE(bezet @ Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM)
Let see here..

my steady income is around 4.5K/ month, can fork out up to 20k for downpayment. My age is around 24...

Should be able to get a 300k loan for a house ?

A simple answer would be great... Thank you
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Generally a 300k loan would require that you put up a 30k downpayment ( 10% of loan amount )
And also bank normally require that your salary be at least 3x the amount of instalment you have to pay each month, which if you take a 30 years tenure, at current BLR rates you have to pay around Rm 1400 a month. Of course when the BLR rises, the bank may revise your instalment, so its better to consider properly before commiting to a 300k loan smile.gif

If u can come up with the 30k for downpayment, and your credit history is good, no harm trying, see wat offer you can get smile.gif


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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Jun 20 2009, 02:57 PM)
Generally a 300k loan would require that you put up a 30k downpayment ( 10% of loan amount )
And also bank normally require that your salary be at least 3x the amount of instalment you have to pay each month, which if you take a 30 years tenure, at current BLR rates you have to pay around Rm 1400 a month. Of course when the BLR rises, the bank may revise your instalment, so its better to consider properly before commiting to a 300k loan smile.gif

If u can come up with the 30k for downpayment, and your credit history is good, no harm trying, see wat offer you can get smile.gif
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If a downpayment of 30 k needed. no trouble forking out to that amount... my only concern is whether can get the loan or not..
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QUOTE(bezet @ Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM)
Let see here..

my steady income is around 4.5K/ month, can fork out up to 20k for downpayment. My age is around 24...

Should be able to get a 300k loan for a house ?

A simple answer would be great... Thank you
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300k would probably comes with rm2200 monthly repayment for 30 years, 2200 is almost 50% of your 4.5k, so I would say you WON'T get it.

Just apply multiple loans from multiple banks, then if more than one bank approves you, you select one. NO NEED to ask in forum like this ...
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QUOTE(mtsen @ Jun 21 2009, 01:31 AM)
300k would probably comes with rm2200 monthly repayment for 30 years, 2200 is almost 50% of your 4.5k, so I would say you WON'T get it. 

Just apply multiple loans from multiple banks, then if more than one bank approves you, you select one.  NO NEED to ask in forum like this ...
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I think your calculation on installment amount is wrong le.

RM300k, BLR-2%,
30years tenure,monthly installment is only RM1356. biggrin.gif
15years tenure, monthly installement then only RM2153.
It's under 30% of the salary RM4.5k.

That's why earlier i will said no problem for TS to get the loan approve if there is no others debt in hand. smile.gif
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Hi guys,

UOB is proposing me a package with "weekly" installments instead of "monthly" installments.

The rate is 0.1% lesser than other package (eg BLR-2.1% when others are offering BLR-2.2%).

As claimed, the advantage of this package is the tenure years of 30 will be reduced to 26.

Here's my analysis (as I posted in The Zest thread):
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My conclusion on this package is will reduce the tenure year by 1 year 10 months BY INCREASING THE FREQUENCY of installment payments (via weekly installments)

As I have not decided on which package to take, I need to decide on one matter:

If I have more saving (per week or per month), which is more beneficial:
1) Increasing the frequency of installment (for example weekly)
2) Decreasing my principle (for flexi, semi-flexi monthly installment plan)

Kindly advise notworthy.gif

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ya i also tempted by the UOB weekly thing. how is this compare to full flexi at EON?
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Hi guys,

UOB is proposing me a package with "weekly" installments instead of "monthly" installments.

The rate is 0.1% lesser than other package (eg BLR-2.1% when others are offering BLR-2.2%).

As claimed, the advantage of this package is the tenure years of 30 will be reduced to 26.

Here's my analysis (as I posted in The Zest thread):
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

My conclusion on this package is will reduce the tenure year by 1 year 10 months BY INCREASING THE FREQUENCY of installment payments (via weekly installments)

As I have not decided on which package to take, I need to decide on one matter:

If I have more saving (per week or per month), which is more beneficial:
1) Increasing the frequency of installment (for example weekly)
2) Decreasing my principle (for flexi, semi-flexi monthly installment plan)

Kindly advise notworthy.gif
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You can actually do weekly payment with flexi loan too. The result will be the same.

This is because your interest is keep on reduce weekly when you paying weekly to UOB.

Thus,
It will be the same result if you pay weekly to flexi loan. As the flexi loan will reduce interest in the same way when you pay weekly.

Beside of weekly,do you know that, if you manage to pay daily to flexi loan, your tenure will reduce even more. smile.gif

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ok after being pointed out the 52 payments thing, i recalculated and found that I would only save another 15k and not really 3 years worth of payments as I initially thought. In terms of monthly payments saved - only 6 months worth as compare to monthly payments.

Is there an online calculator where I can forecast for full flexi plan?

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QUOTE(SonyBravia @ Jun 21 2009, 10:45 PM)
You can actually do weekly payment with flexi loan too. The result will be the same.

This is because your interest is keep on reduce weekly when you paying weekly to UOB.

Thus,
It will be the same result if you pay weekly to flexi loan. As the flexi loan will reduce interest in the same way when you pay weekly.

Beside of weekly,do you know that, if you manage to pay daily to flexi loan, your tenure will reduce even more. smile.gif
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Good feedback but I do not think the bank will offer daily payment due to overheads tongue.gif

As pointed out in my post, comparison is on (semi-) flexi both. The main concern is whether
1) Weekly installment (Pro: Highly frequency payment per year = favorable interest calculation/reduction - Cons: additional 2K++ payment a year)
2) Monthly installment (Pro: 2K++ lesser (eq. 1 month installment) Cons: normal interest calculation?)

QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 22 2009, 09:59 AM)
ok after being pointed out the 52 payments thing, i recalculated and found that I would only save another 15k and not really 3 years worth of payments as I initially thought. In terms of monthly payments saved - only 6 months worth as compare to monthly payments.

Is there an online calculator where I can forecast for full flexi plan?
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From my calculation, your "actual" tenure year will be reduced by 4 years

HOWEVER, you will only save up 1 year 10 months of installments - not 4 years due to additional "one-month installment" paid annually.


I don't know if what I've calculated is correct. Looking forward to get feedback from experts here notworthy.gif


Here's one feedback I got from The Zest thread where I initially posted this issue (FYI, he has taken up this package but on fortnightly instead of weekly):

QUOTE(gamenoob @ Jun 22 2009, 10:01 AM)
The reason why I advocate the fortnight payment is to take advantage of the daily rest interest from the bank loan calculation. Years ago, local bank not willing to do daily rest interest and only foreign bank ie Citi/HSBC/SC etc.

So by doing fornight payment (splitting the monthly into 2) will increase the loan principal reduction calculation and expedite the loan repayment as you have seen.

Other may say why the hassle of fortnightly when you still paying 1 extra month per year and why not take that 1 extra month and divide by 12 and hence bump up the monthly amount while still paying it on monthly basis. This approach also similar and also reduce the payment period. The debate can be academic and hope someone else have the full financial loan sheet to demo this on the actual saving of these 2 approach.

Either way, you are paying that 1 month extra per year and it still save substantially at Rm24.7k. The diff of this vs your own self dumping money is, your set it up as a force pattern and forget instead of constantly making conscious effort to top up variable amount.

There are no extra effort, just setup a saving acct on the same bank and have it deduct automatically every fortnight.

Obviously you can do it weekly but moving from fortnight to weekly, the saving is not that much. and if your bank willing... hey every cents count.

If you have extra cash to clear off our principal, go and knock it off.... but why do that if the BLR is all time low and with the minus 2% from bank.. your effective loan interest is just than 3.55%.... surely you can keep the cash and invest somewhere for better returns...
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hi

actually i got the calculation from the UOB. It says "loan tenure to shortened to 17 years and 11.1 months - ok 18 years which if my term is 20, i would save 2 years but after calculating it again taking into account the weekly payment thing - I figure I only save 6 months of actual monthly payments and not 2 whole years.

and this is not even taking into account that i would deposit the full monthly payment at the beginning of the month - but when they transfer just the weekly part of it, the other parts really aint doing anything in the account. eg. not earning any interest nor lowering any principle amount
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hi

actually i got the calculation from the UOB. It says "loan tenure to shortened to 17 years and 11.1 months - ok 18 years which if my term is 20, i would save 2 years but after calculating it again taking into account the weekly payment thing - I figure I only save 6 months of actual monthly payments and not 2 whole years.

and this is not even taking into account that i would deposit the full monthly payment at the beginning of the month - but when they transfer just the weekly part of it, the other parts really aint doing anything in the account. eg. not earning any interest nor lowering any principle amount
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You are not depositing money into the loan... When you taking a fortnight or weekly payment with UOB, you just paying them more frequently with your monthly rate divided by 2 or 4. You do ended up with 1 more month per year.

You setup a saving acct with them and that saving acct will remit the payment to the loan on fortnight or weekly. Whether you getting interest or not on that Saving acct, its irrelevant as Saving acct have crapped out interest anyway! And yes, should be dumping big amount into that saving acct either.

You should ask how many percent you saved and not the nos of month. If you take 30yrs loan, you get a lot more saving!

If you take same amount of loan for 20 yrs vs 30 yrs, when you go on fortnight, the months of payment save will be smaller on 20 yrs but % of interest save will be similar.


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pretty good saving there actually, where do you get the idea to have 2 years saving ? other than those marketing talk !?


Added on June 22, 2009, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jun 21 2009, 11:04 AM)
I think your calculation on installment amount is wrong le.

RM300k, BLR-2%,
30years tenure,monthly installment is only RM1356.  biggrin.gif
15years tenure, monthly installement then only RM2153.
It's under 30% of the salary RM4.5k.

That's why earlier i will said no problem for TS to get the loan approve if there is no others debt in hand. smile.gif
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sorry, u r rite, I usually use 6-8% for long term housing calculation regardless of what the market rate is, it gives me extra room ...

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Btw for loan refinancing purposes, is there a way to calculate the valuation fee by those bank valuers? I know its based on your property market value, any idea is there a formula how they calculate it?

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my package from OCBC

322k for 40 yrs
monthly replayment 1200
rate: blr-2.4
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I was thinking of OCBC until they tell me need valuation fees which for me around 1250. some banks no need pay for house less than 700k
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QUOTE(bezet @ Jun 20 2009, 12:22 AM)
Let see here..

my steady income is around 4.5K/ month, can fork out up to 20k for downpayment. My age is around 24...

Should be able to get a 300k loan for a house ?

A simple answer would be great... Thank you
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Hi guys...

I'm back.. Thank you for the reply previously. Just visited the show house. Corner lot is priced at RM343 888. I'm going for that one...

FYI, I dont have any other loan to pay, other than my Credit card which I use to buy stuff online which I pay every billing statement....

What is the current rate for most bank now?

So now... should I think twice....?

BTW, I'm in Kuching.. any banker around PM me.. thumbup.gif
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Hello all,

Anyone knows of a good home loan agent from either StanChart, Citibank or CIMB ?

I'm looking to refinance two homeloans from my existing f**k up bank who doesn't want to contact me to reduce my interest rates.

Can PM me with their contacts or if you're a homeloan agent lurking here please PM me?

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who is your f**kup bank? must be same as mine.... smile.gif
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I heard Alliance bank is giving 3% for the first year, and -2.2% BLR for the next years (not sure how long). The catch is the loan must be <80% of the property cost.

Anyone knows a better rate?
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who is your f**kup bank? must be same as mine.... smile.gif
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well i dunno what's wrong with them i emailed them 2 weeks ago asking to whether or not they can reduce my homeloans interest rate and the only answer i got was like "We have forwarded your request to the relevant personnel"


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can we take up loan from bank B after signing offer letter from Bank A?
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what is Bank A and which is Bank B? smile.gif
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what is Bank A and which is Bank B? smile.gif
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sure can but must pay the penalty lo...
what offer caught your eye? share share ma... wink.gif



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well i dunno what's wrong with them i emailed them 2 weeks ago asking to whether or not they can reduce my homeloans interest rate  and the only answer i got was like "We have forwarded your request to the relevant personnel"
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 1 2009, 05:09 PM)
sure can but must pay the penalty lo...
what offer caught your eye? share share ma... wink.gif
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i've signed the offer letter from OCB* but hasn't sign any loan agreement from lawyer yet. Like this also got penalty?? hmm.gif
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hmmm... Im no expert, I guessing only. Hopefully someone here can give you a better answer.

OCBC - their problem for me is valuation fee I have to pay. Other banks no need.
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my f**kup bank also refuse to revise my loan interest.
I walked in to the bank branch and talked to the mortgage personal. after 2 weeks, no reply. then i called the mortgage personal again, that fella say will help to check again. after 2 days, receive call from the bank saying their management refuse to revise my loan interest rate. reason is my loan outstanding is less than RM100k. must more than RM100k only they will lower the interest rate.


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 1 2009, 08:26 PM)
hmmm... Im no expert, I guessing only. Hopefully someone here can give you a better answer.

OCBC - their problem for me is valuation fee I have to pay. Other banks no need.
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Added on July 1, 2009, 10:11 pmIf anyone know any bank offer renovation loan package, please share.
NOT personal loan.
I am thinking of getting a basic unit house. Then get renovation loan and renovate myself.
If not, then I have to find those unit that already renovated.


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you can always take a new loan somewhere else. if your balance is 100k, doesnt mean you can only borrow 100k. maybe your house value has gone up and also you have paid off a good portion already - you can borrow again up to 90% of the house value.

yes that means you include your renovation cost into it. i am sure a housing loan rate is cheaper than a renovation loan which i fear is the same rate as a personal loan.

some non-zero moving cost packages also dont have to pay for valuation fee. Some banks are chin chai, they dun need so accurate valuation is property value is below a certain amount


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 1 2009, 05:11 PM)

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i waited almost 3 months for mine. - in the end also disappointment  cry.gif
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I gave them until this weekend to reduce it if not I'll refinance it.

There's gotta be a threshold for everything.


Thanks for all the agents who contacted me. So far it's good that all agents are from different banks! lol...
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i've signed the offer letter from OCB* but hasn't sign any loan agreement from lawyer yet. Like this also got penalty??  hmm.gif
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I'd like to raise a new issue in Housing Loan.

My banker has mistaken my application as a joint-borrowers application whereas I wanted a a sole-borrower one. The other borrower is my gf.

At first I thought of putting my name alone to be the borrower so that my gf's profile can be remained "clean".

After realizing the issue, the banker said that if I remove her name, the rate will not be this good. Furthermore, according to him, if the future 2nd property is under both names, it doesn't make any difference.

Questions:
1. Is one borrower alone better than joint?

2. If I am getting BLR-2.3% as joint-borrowers application but BLR-2.2% otherwise, which one is better?

PS: sorry for the layman terms sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 5 2009, 02:40 PM)
Questions:
1. Is one borrower alone better than joint?

2. If I am getting BLR-2.3% as joint-borrowers application but BLR-2.2% otherwise, which one is better?

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1. This is subjective, as both has its own advantages. However personally I think its better to be a single borrower especially when your co-borrower is your GF only. No point getting her involved as things could get messy if things didnt happen as what u both has planned in the future.

2. Honestly, 0.1% diff is really just a few dollars a month. No point losing some sleep over this.


btw, think your banker here is being plain lazy and refuse to resubmit your case again. USUALLY, rates are normally determined by loan size AND the competing offers, not the credit worthiness of borrower(s).

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QUOTE(jhbey @ Jul 1 2009, 11:02 PM)
my f**kup bank also refuse to revise my loan interest.
I walked in to the bank branch and talked to the mortgage personal. after 2 weeks, no reply. then i called the mortgage personal again, that fella say will help to check again. after 2 days, receive call from the bank saying their management refuse to revise my loan interest rate. reason is my loan outstanding is less than RM100k. must more than RM100k only they will lower the interest rate.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:07 pm

OCBC doesn't have ZERO moving cost. All evaluation fee, loan stamp duty, loan legal fee have to pay by ourselves.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:11 pmIf anyone know any bank offer renovation loan package, please share.
NOT personal loan.
I am thinking of getting a basic unit house. Then get renovation loan and renovate myself.
If not, then I have to find those unit that already renovated.
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ERM, ocbc have zero moving, its call LVS package.
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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 5 2009, 03:46 PM)
1. This is subjective, as both has its own advantages. However personally I think its better to be a single borrower especially when your co-borrower is your GF only. No point getting her involved as things could get messy if things didnt happen as what u both has planned in the future.

2. Honestly, 0.1% diff is really just a few dollars a month. No point losing some sleep over this.
btw, think your banker here is being plain lazy and refuse to resubmit your case again. USUALLY, rates are normally determined by loan size, not the credit worthiness of borrower(s).
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Thanks for your input.

I'll talk over the matter with my banker, insisting for a change.
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I'm going to buy an apartment. I will borrow 215K.
Any banker here, please pm me your best loan package thumbup.gif .


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Alliance have 1 product that works differently
Product name is "I wish home Flexi & I wish home Financing I"

Loan amount RM 300k-RM 800k

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Thereafter BLR -2.25%
Margin <80%

1st year BLR 2.75%
Thereafter BLR -2.15%
margin 80%~ <90%

Benefits
Flexi loan
For any extra amount you dump in, the bank will pay you interest of 0.05%. (sumthing like dividend)
5 years lock in, penalty 3%
loan tenure can go up to 35 years or age 75.

For more detail, you guys call their customer service.
I'm not selling it, i'm just sharing it.

i think this this is the only bank that pay dividend...
but if i got extra money, i rather buy bond or stock...
0.05% not much of a different...
oh by the way, this is Islamic loan, don't buy for non halal purpose... or else won't approve.


Added on July 7, 2009, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(mtsen @ May 25 2009, 12:09 PM)
get from maybank, then show maybank's offer to cimb and ask them to match.  if cimb match, good.  else switch.

according to http://www.malpf.com/ best deal is now Affin Bank BLR - 2.3% but there are many other considerations also in house loan.

good luck !
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Due to business ethic, above method is not recommended.
Any banker that leave LO to a customer is commiting a BAFIA ACT already.
So, as a consumer, you have the right to get the best rate,
but don't hurt a person career due to your own purpose.
LO issue to a customer is belong to the bank of issuer only,
and it is not for negotiating rate with other bank.
The LO purpose is for customer to agree on the Cuztomize package terms and interest rate.
If a customer does not agree, then the LO will be wipe off.

No offense mtsen.


Added on July 7, 2009, 3:09 pm
QUOTE(RedSox2004 @ Jun 7 2009, 08:53 PM)
Guys, i have a dumb question.  blush.gif
I am 26years old, 30k savings, EPF can take out 10k for house purchase, salary 2.6k... cry.gif
Is it a good idea to buy a 300k unit? or should i wait for a couple more years..?
Thanks.  icon_question.gif
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Since you put it that way, i do some calculation for you.
The ratio of interest is at BLR -2.2%
so i simply use this as example.

Lets assume your House Open market Value is RM 300k
90% loan is RM 270k
BNM BLR 5.55%
Bank ABC offer -2.2%
your monthly installmet is around RM 1190
If the BNM BLR did not raise, your installment will be the same.
(which is impossible)

Your S&P will be around RM 11.5k+- wont exceed RM 13k
Your loan agreement, either zero cost, non zero or Finance cost.
Your Loan agreement will be around RM 5.5k+- wont exceed RM 6.5k
By using same lawyer usually you guys get discount.

Your insurance coverage MRTA will be RM 7.5k for 30 years amount RM 270k with gap ~0.
Usually MRTA cover less than principal balance, so by increasing some calculation method, i close down the gap approximately 0.

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I'd like to raise a new issue in Housing Loan.

My banker has mistaken my application as a joint-borrowers application whereas I wanted a a sole-borrower one. The other borrower is my gf.

At first I thought of putting my name alone to be the borrower so that my gf's profile can be remained "clean".

After realizing the issue, the banker said that if I remove her name, the rate will not be this good. Furthermore, according to him, if the future 2nd property is under both names, it doesn't make any difference.

Questions:
1. Is one borrower alone better than joint?

2. If I am getting BLR-2.3% as joint-borrowers application but BLR-2.2% otherwise, which one is better?

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my f**kup bank also refuse to revise my loan interest.
I walked in to the bank branch and talked to the mortgage personal. after 2 weeks, no reply. then i called the mortgage personal again, that fella say will help to check again. after 2 days, receive call from the bank saying their management refuse to revise my loan interest rate. reason is my loan outstanding is less than RM100k. must more than RM100k only they will lower the interest rate.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:07 pm

OCBC doesn't have ZERO moving cost. All evaluation fee, loan stamp duty, loan legal fee have to pay by ourselves.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:11 pmIf anyone know any bank offer renovation loan package, please share.
NOT personal loan.
I am thinking of getting a basic unit house. Then get renovation loan and renovate myself.
If not, then I have to find those unit that already renovated.
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jhbey, i would appreciate if you do some research before you make any claims.

OCBC do have Zero Moving Cost.

Please check your loan package, whether its ZMC, nZMC or LVS package before signing or commit to any bank.


best regards,


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QUOTE(yssee85 @ Jul 5 2009, 05:52 PM)
ERM, ocbc have zero moving, its call LVS package.
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OCBC has Zero Moving Cost, Non Zero Moving Cost & LVS Package (Finance Entry Cost)


Regards,

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jhbey, i would appreciate if you do some research before you make any claims.

OCBC do have Zero Moving Cost.

Please check your loan package, whether its ZMC, nZMC or LVS package before signing or commit to any bank.
best regards,


Added on July 7, 2009, 10:25 pm
OCBC has Zero Moving Cost, Non Zero Moving Cost & LVS Package (Finance Entry Cost)
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Added on July 7, 2009, 10:37 pmocbc zero moving rate is =.=lll. but their Finance entry and non zero is attractive.

Stand chart, BLR -2.5% (forget what package)
loan amount RM 500k>

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 5 2009, 02:40 PM)
I'd like to raise a new issue in Housing Loan.

My banker has mistaken my application as a joint-borrowers application whereas I wanted a a sole-borrower one. The other borrower is my gf.

At first I thought of putting my name alone to be the borrower so that my gf's profile can be remained "clean".

After realizing the issue, the banker said that if I remove her name, the rate will not be this good. Furthermore, according to him, if the future 2nd property is under both names, it doesn't make any difference.

Questions:
1. Is one borrower alone better than joint?

2. If I am getting BLR-2.3% as joint-borrowers application but BLR-2.2% otherwise, which one is better?

PS: sorry for the layman terms sweat.gif
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hi,

1)the lesser the better. but again this is from my personal 2 cents. cool2.gif

2)to be honest, i never heard of such thing where 2 borrower can have a lower rates? what kind of risk assessment are we looking at? less possibility of NPL? perhaps you can double confirm on this with the banker, see whats his answer.


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Guys,
Need some opinion on whether it's ok if I purchase a house based on following condition:

House Price : 300k
Saving : 20k
EPF 2nd Acc : 20k
Monthly Income (after tax and epf) : 7k
Monthly Installsment based on (30year, 290k, 3.5%) : RM 1.3k
Other debts : none
Age : 26

I plan to buy the house for own stay, replacing my current rented room (RM 530/month), also prepare for my future family. Currently I plan to fork out 10k from Saving, and if needed, also the 20k from EPF for the downpayment. The monthly installment shouldn't be an issue.

I know that my current saving level is not healthy, as I only start savings few months back, so I am a bit concern whether now is right time for me to go on to purchase the house?  Or should I save more before I commited?

Also I also concern if I bought this house, with my profile, would I able to buy another house in 2-3 years?

Oh ya, I forgot to ask the main question as I post this in this topic : Any recommendation for bank loan?
Currently I am considering Maybank, 1-3 years : 2.38%, 4year and above : BLR - 2.0%.
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1. Bankers generally told me that the allowable debt-to-income ratio is about 30% (or more), so u can estimate using loan calculator how much you can borrow assuming you are utilizing 30% of your income to pay loan instalments.
2. Usually I will "open fire" to 4-5 banks for loan application before I decide on one. Don't just consider rates, compare other criteria such as lock in period, early settlement penalty, MRTA requirement etc.
3. You can only withdraw EPF twice for home purchase - so think twice before you do so.

Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(Backkom @ Jul 8 2009, 08:41 AM)
1. Bankers generally told me that the allowable debt-to-income ratio is about 30% (or more), so u can estimate using loan calculator how much you can borrow assuming you are utilizing 30% of your income to pay loan instalments.
2. Usually I will "open fire" to 4-5 banks for loan application before I decide on one. Don't just consider rates, compare other criteria such as lock in period, early settlement penalty, MRTA requirement etc.
3. You can only withdraw EPF twice for home purchase - so think twice before you do so.

Just my 2 cents.
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Added on July 8, 2009, 11:13 am
QUOTE(yssee85 @ Jul 7 2009, 10:33 PM)
thks for the correction bro.


Added on July 7, 2009, 10:37 pmocbc zero moving rate is =.=lll. but their Finance entry and non zero is attractive.

Stand chart, BLR -2.5% (forget what package)
loan amount RM 500k>
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FYI, the ocbc banker told me that they have temporarily stopped the zero moving cost packages.

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Also, not to forget that once you withdraw from EPF for home purchase, you will need to sell off the house before you can withdraw again. You might want to check out PBB for the home loan.


Added on July 8, 2009, 11:13 am

FYI, the ocbc banker told me that they have temporarily stopped the zero moving cost packages.
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that never happened. smile.gif

a missunderstanding perhaps? i just closed a ZMC loan less than 2 weeks ago.



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that never happened.  smile.gif

a missunderstanding perhaps? i just closed a ZMC loan less than 2 weeks ago.
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I just got offer letter from UOB.

This is for a non-zero moving cost housing loan, so I included my loan agreement fees/stamping, penalty I have to pay to existing bank, plus some money meant for the developer upon getting title. So I total it up and borrow this amount - lets say 450k. My actual balance is lets say only 400k. But UOB offer letter separate my current loan balance and the rest and name them as Housing Loan=400k and Fixed Loan=50k. Dont know why they do like that. Rate is the same but why two different accounts instead of one account. I asked them they say its for their own internal accounting purposes which I suspect something else is up their sleeve. I havent really gone thru the letter yet and its not easy to read all the mumjo jumbo.

Anyone with this experience with UOB? Im getting highly suspicious of them unsure.gif
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Jul 8 2009, 08:10 AM)
Guys,
Need some opinion on whether it's ok if I purchase a house based on following condition:

House Price : 300k
Saving : 20k
EPF 2nd Acc : 20k
Monthly Income (after tax and epf) : 7k
Monthly Installsment based on (30year, 290k, 3.5%) : RM 1.3k
Other debts : none
Age : 26

I plan to buy the house for own stay, replacing my current rented room (RM 530/month), also prepare for my future family. Currently I plan to fork out 10k from Saving, and if needed, also the 20k from EPF for the downpayment. The monthly installment shouldn't be an issue.

I know that my current saving level is not healthy, as I only start savings few months back, so I am a bit concern whether now is right time for me to go on to purchase the house?  Or should I save more before I commited?

Also I also concern if I bought this house, with my profile, would I able to buy another house in 2-3 years?

Oh ya, I forgot to ask the main question as I post this in this topic : Any recommendation for bank loan?
Currently I am considering Maybank, 1-3 years : 2.38%, 4year and above : BLR - 2.0%.
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toto,

how much can you save every month now? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 8 2009, 06:19 PM)
toto,

how much can you save every month now?  smile.gif
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Around 2k.
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Jul 8 2009, 07:42 PM)
Around 2k.
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Then think you better save some $$$ 1st. If 2k savings p/m is your best effort, make sure you have around 40k savings before you make the plunge.

Btw chief, 5k monthly expense for a single 26 yr old chap is rather high. Maybe you can figure out a way to reduce expenses and at least save 3.5k p/m. IMO, if you can save 3.5k p/m now, then you can comfortably afford the house now.

Good luck wink.gif

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QUOTE(exhausted @ Jul 8 2009, 12:11 PM)
Also, not to forget that once you withdraw from EPF for home purchase, you will need to sell off the house before you can withdraw again. You might want to check out PBB for the home loan.


Added on July 8, 2009, 11:13 am

FYI, the ocbc banker told me that they have temporarily stopped the zero moving cost packages.
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Zero moving cost no stopped at all, just the rate are not good.
Dunno which banker told you, i didnt receive such info.

Call OCBC customer service.
1300 88 1668


Added on July 8, 2009, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 8 2009, 05:10 PM)
I just got offer letter from UOB.

This is for a non-zero moving cost housing loan, so I included my loan agreement fees/stamping, penalty I have to pay to existing bank, plus some money meant for the developer upon getting title. So I total it up and borrow this amount - lets say 450k. My actual balance is lets say only 400k. But UOB offer letter separate my current loan balance and the rest and name them as Housing Loan=400k and Fixed Loan=50k. Dont know why they do like that. Rate is the same but why two different accounts instead of one account. I asked them they say its for their own internal accounting purposes which I suspect something else is up their sleeve. I havent really gone thru the letter yet and its not easy to read all the mumjo jumbo.

Anyone with this experience with UOB? Im getting highly suspicious of them  unsure.gif
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Lately UOB is being competitive, don't worry about the separate account, its just for their monthly target/calculation and quota purpose.

Even ocbc has its own quota, works differently.

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 8 2009, 04:10 PM)
I just got offer letter from UOB.

This is for a non-zero moving cost housing loan, so I included my loan agreement fees/stamping, penalty I have to pay to existing bank, plus some money meant for the developer upon getting title. So I total it up and borrow this amount - lets say 450k. My actual balance is lets say only 400k. But UOB offer letter separate my current loan balance and the rest and name them as Housing Loan=400k and Fixed Loan=50k. Dont know why they do like that. Rate is the same but why two different accounts instead of one account. I asked them they say its for their own internal accounting purposes which I suspect something else is up their sleeve. I havent really gone thru the letter yet and its not easy to read all the mumjo jumbo.

Anyone with this experience with UOB? Im getting highly suspicious of them  unsure.gif
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i don't have specify experience with UOB, but this seems like separating equity and typical loan account, if it is true, its kind of cool in Malaysia. can you PM me your loan agent ?

bank actually earns more from flexi loan, so i cann't think of any worse scenario than giving you all at flexi loan. At worst, this seems like a case where the agent has some target to meet and this is one of the way he can upgrade the 400k loan to 450k .....

do keep us update what happened next ...


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Then think you better save some $$$ 1st. If 2k savings p/m is your best effort, make sure you have around 40k savings before you make the plunge.

Btw chief, 5k monthly expense for a single 26 yr old chap is rather high. Maybe you can figure out a way to reduce expenses and at least save 3.5k p/m. IMO, if you can save 3.5k p/m now, then you can comfortably afford the house now.

Good luck    wink.gif
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if you decide not to take up an offer after applying for a certain bank, do you take back the supporting documents like photocopy IC, income statements, S&P, etc?
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if you decide not to take up an offer after applying for a certain bank, do you take back the supporting documents like photocopy IC, income statements, S&P, etc?
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You can request for it, if you want, they'll just throw it, or do filing, after 1 years, they'll throw it also.
By the way hong leong new rate are

500k>
Zero moving
90%
-2.15% with MDTA
80%
-2.25% with MDTA
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hi, i am looking for any RHB mortgage officer because i would like to re-negotiate my loan agreement (my previous RHB agent resigned) . I took about RM140k in year 2004, interest 1st 5 years is 5.5%, lock in period 7 years. Looking at the current low BLR, I wish to have lower monthly installment.

Anyone?

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 8 2009, 08:02 PM)
Then think you better save some $$$ 1st. If 2k savings p/m is your best effort, make sure you have around 40k savings before you make the plunge.

Btw chief, 5k monthly expense for a single 26 yr old chap is rather high. Maybe you can figure out a way to reduce expenses and at least save 3.5k p/m. IMO, if you can save 3.5k p/m now, then you can comfortably afford the house now.

Good luck    wink.gif
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Thanks for advice. Ya, 5k is a bit too much, probably too much travelling. Will have to cut my travelling and see how it go. 3.5k should be an achievable target. Alrite, think i better be more discipline in saving. smile.gif
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Jul 9 2009, 12:56 PM)
Thanks for advice. Ya, 5k is a bit too much, probably too much travelling. Will have to cut my travelling and see how it go. 3.5k should be an achievable target. Alrite, think i better be more discipline in saving.  smile.gif
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Good smile.gif

Btw, do u understand the logic of why you need to save 3.5k p/m for you to be able to afford the house now?? wink.gif
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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 9 2009, 01:07 PM)
Good smile.gif

Btw, do u understand the logic of why you need to save 3.5k p/m for you to be able to afford the house now??  wink.gif
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Haha, not really. Please advise on this.

I just think that if I can save 3.5k p/m, then after the loan repayment, I still can save 2k. Then it should be ok to continue grow my saving. Is this the logic?
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QUOTE(toto4d @ Jul 9 2009, 01:11 PM)
I just think that if I can save 3.5k p/m, then after the loan repayment, I still can save 2k. Then it should be ok to continue grow my saving. Is this the logic?
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Thats right. No point splurging and buying a house now when you cant even safe money later. U dont want to put yourslef in a really vulnarable situation. Beiing able to save 2k a month after all commitments will put you in a rather comfortable situation.

Btw, u should also consider fully utilising your EPF account 2 balance for your purchase. That way you dont touch your emergency savings.


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Need to ask some simple question. I'm not really knowledgable in this field.

Right now, p/month I'm paying around RM450 for my apartment.
If I refinance my apartment. My monthly repayment will be above the current or below.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jul 9 2009, 01:40 PM)
Need to ask some simple question. I'm not really knowledgable in this field.

Right now, p/month I'm paying around RM450 for my apartment.
If I refinance my apartment. My monthly repayment will be above the current or below.
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Can't answer until you tell us your current and planned (after refinance) loan amount, tenure, interest rate.
Just use this calculator:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/financing/calc...gagepayment.asp
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 8 2009, 04:10 PM)
I just got offer letter from UOB.

This is for a non-zero moving cost housing loan, so I included my loan agreement fees/stamping, penalty I have to pay to existing bank, plus some money meant for the developer upon getting title. So I total it up and borrow this amount - lets say 450k. My actual balance is lets say only 400k. But UOB offer letter separate my current loan balance and the rest and name them as Housing Loan=400k and Fixed Loan=50k. Dont know why they do like that. Rate is the same but why two different accounts instead of one account. I asked them they say its for their own internal accounting purposes which I suspect something else is up their sleeve. I havent really gone thru the letter yet and its not easy to read all the mumjo jumbo.

Anyone with this experience with UOB? Im getting highly suspicious of them  unsure.gif
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I do not have your kind of experience. I have another actually.

For those who still remember, I have been offered a package of weekly installment. Yesterday, I received the document. I could not see a word call "weekly". I only saw something like "late monthly installment penalty".

So, I ask the banker about this and he told me: "The weekly installment plan is not stated black & white (*suspicious*). It works this way, when you bank in your installment for the first time, put a standing order that this is for weekly installment. The bank will help you to convert it."

Then, I asked him about the late installment penalty, whether it is referring to late-weekly or late-monthly penalty, he said it's on monthly blink.gif I kept asking for more details and finally he said he would come back to me on this next time doh.gif


This is just for sharing only. I'm still thinking about the offer now tongue.gif
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the weekly thing is actually for ppl who is worry that they spend all the paycheck so they bank it in and the bank takes it weekly. if you want to save on interest, better you bank straight in the loan account the entire one month ahead. so instead of weekly, bit by bit, you get one a whole month principle reduction immediately

btw my letter also did not indicate the weekly thing.

However I think I wont go with UOB now as the offer has a few things in it which I am not too happy about. Things like a rm120 annual maintenance fee when my loan is not flexi type. And increase in interest rate if I delay in making payments.

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 9 2009, 03:09 PM)
the weekly thing is actually for ppl who is worry that they spend all the paycheck so they bank it in and the bank takes it weekly. if you want to save on interest, better you bank straight in the loan account the entire one month ahead. so instead of weekly, bit by bit, you get one a whole month principle reduction immediately

btw my letter also did not indicate the weekly thing
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Weekly installment plan is to enable your loan payment and interest to be calculated weekly. Therefore, you will shorten the tenure year. This was what I was told on my first meeting with the banker.

Personally, I am skeptical about it. This system sounds like help us to be disciplined enough to pay our installment more frequent and on time, rather than looking for loan calculation gain

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 9 2009, 03:09 PM)
the weekly thing is actually for ppl who is worry that they spend all the paycheck so they bank it in and the bank takes it weekly. if you want to save on interest, better you bank straight in the loan account the entire one month ahead. so instead of weekly, bit by bit, you get one a whole month principle reduction immediately

btw my letter also did not indicate the weekly thing.

However I think I wont go with UOB now as the offer has a few things in it which I am not too happy about. Things like a rm120 annual maintenance fee when my loan is not flexi type. And increase in interest rate if I delay in making payments.
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I think this clause can be found in all loan agreements - most common ones are upon default (late payments), your current BLR - x.xx rate will become BLR + 1.0.
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interest is actually calculated on a daily rests so the weekly thing is moot.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 9 2009, 03:21 PM)
interest is actually calculated on a daily rests so the weekly thing is moot.
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It does help -

Let say I owe bank RM 100, to be settled in one month.
If I pay at the end of the month - my interest = RM 100 x 5% = RM 5
If I pay 25% every week, my interest = (RM 100 + RM 75 + RM 50 + RM 25) x 5% / 4 = RM 3.125
fookeesan
post Jul 9 2009, 03:28 PM

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Hi ,

I would like to enquire a few questions on Refinancing.

I bought a house 322k in Setia Alam in February 2008. I borrowed 90% from AIA on a Fixed 5.75% 30 yrs loan.

I'm currently paying 1692 per month. Now, my house has just completed and will be getting CF this month. Hence, I would like to refinance my loan to a Flexi deal to allow me to have lower monthly payment and have more savings.

May I enquire the rates for ZMC?? Moreover, may I ask if any banks absorbed the penalties as well?? I do not wish to take out any cash as my house is ready and I will use most of the cash on my house.

Tq.

Would appreciate if any agents or bankers woule PM me on offers. smile.gif
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post Jul 9 2009, 06:37 PM

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how long to wait for the loan to get approval?
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post Jul 10 2009, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Jul 9 2009, 04:28 PM)
Hi ,

I would like to enquire a few questions on Refinancing.

I bought a house 322k in Setia Alam in February 2008. I borrowed 90% from AIA on a Fixed 5.75% 30 yrs loan.

I'm currently paying 1692 per month. Now, my house has just completed and will be getting CF this month. Hence, I would like to refinance my loan to a Flexi deal to allow me to have lower monthly payment and have more savings.

May I enquire the rates for ZMC?? Moreover, may I ask if any banks absorbed the penalties as well?? I do not wish to take out any cash as my house is ready and I will use most of the cash on my house.

Tq.

Would appreciate if any agents or bankers woule PM me on offers.  smile.gif
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Correct me if i'm wrong, you'll get RM100k+ from AIA after you finish your payment rite?


Added on July 10, 2009, 1:14 am
QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Jul 9 2009, 07:37 PM)
how long to wait for the loan to get approval?
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Which bank?
Usually 1 week.

This post has been edited by yssee85: Jul 10 2009, 01:14 AM
jelen
post Jul 10 2009, 02:54 AM

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There are many types of interest calculation, I think daily rest, monthly compounded is the best...

i don't understand why we need weekly payment...

Maybe i do a calculation and see how, (pls correct me if wrong)

Example of Loan 300k for 30 years, interest 3.45%. Monthly installment RM1339.
Let say interest start frm 01/01/09, installment commences on 01/02/09.
Balance 300,000.00
Interest for Jan: 01/01/09 to 31/01/09 =28.36 x 31 = 879.16

Interest for Feb:
Interest for 01/02/09 =28.44.
O/S = 299,540.16 after installment paid on 01/02/09 (principal deducted = 1339-879.16)
Interest from 02/02/09 to 28/02/09 = 28.31 x 27 = 764.37
total interest = 28.44 + 764.37 = 792.81

Interest for march:
Interest for 01/03/09 = 28.39
O/S = 298,993.97 after installment paid on 01/02/09 (principal deducted = 1339-792.81)
Interest from 02/03/09 to 31/03/09 = 28.26 x 30 = 847.80
total interest = 28.39 + 847.80 = 876.19


Let say weekly payment, amount would be 1339/4 = 334.75 (say pay on 1st, 7th, 14th & 21st)
Interest for Jan = same

Interest for Feb:
Interest for 01/02/09 =28.44
O/S now = 300,544.41
Interest from 02/02/09 to 07/02/09 = 28.41 x 6 = 170.46
O/S now = 300,209.66
Interest from 08/02/09 to 14/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
O/S now = 299,874.91
Interest from 15/02/09 to 21/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
O/S now = 299,540.16
Interest from 22/02/09 to 28/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
total interest = 28.44 + 170.46 + 198.87 + 198.87 + 198.87 = 795.51

O/S = 301,339.92
interest for march;
Interest for 01/03/09 =28.48
O/S now = 301,005.17
Interest from 02/03/09 to 07/03/09 = 28.45 x 6 = 170.70
O/S now = 300,209.66
Interest from 08/03/09 to 14/03/09 = 28.45 x 7 = 199.15
O/S now= 299,874.91
Interest from 15/03/09 to 21/03/09 = 28.45 x 7 = 199.15
O/S now= 299,540.16
Interest from 22/03/09 to 31/03/09 = 28.45 x 10 = 284.50
total interest = 28.48 + 170.70 + 199.15+ 199.15 + 284.50 = 881.98



so pay monthly installment RM1339 is different from 4 x 334.75,,,,
which one better? i think you can compare...

i think same thing also when you want to pay lump sum payment
example RM10000 one time is better than RM1000 x 10 times on different days.
correct arr??


also
there are banks that calculate interest based on Daily rest monthly compounded ...
if it's daily rest, it's actually a simple maths,

Unfortunately some banks are "daily rest" but they must be having very "special" formula and they cannot tell you...



yssee85
post Jul 10 2009, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(jelen @ Jul 10 2009, 03:54 AM)
There are many types of interest calculation, I think daily rest, monthly compounded is the best...

i don't understand why we need weekly payment...

Maybe i do a calculation and see how, (pls correct me if wrong)

Example of Loan 300k for 30 years, interest 3.45%. Monthly installment RM1339.
Let say interest start frm 01/01/09, installment commences on 01/02/09.
Balance 300,000.00
Interest for Jan: 01/01/09 to 31/01/09 =28.36 x 31 = 879.16

Interest for Feb:
Interest for 01/02/09 =28.44.
O/S = 299,540.16 after installment paid on 01/02/09 (principal deducted = 1339-879.16)
Interest from 02/02/09 to 28/02/09 = 28.31 x 27 = 764.37
total interest = 28.44 + 764.37 = 792.81

Interest for march:
Interest for 01/03/09 = 28.39
O/S = 298,993.97 after installment paid on 01/02/09 (principal deducted = 1339-792.81)
Interest from 02/03/09 to 31/03/09 = 28.26 x 30 = 847.80
total interest = 28.39 + 847.80 = 876.19
Let say weekly payment, amount would be 1339/4 = 334.75 (say pay on 1st, 7th, 14th & 21st)
Interest for Jan = same

Interest for Feb:
Interest for 01/02/09 =28.44
O/S now = 300,544.41
Interest from 02/02/09 to 07/02/09 = 28.41 x 6 = 170.46
O/S now = 300,209.66
Interest from 08/02/09 to 14/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
O/S now = 299,874.91
Interest from 15/02/09 to 21/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
O/S now = 299,540.16
Interest from 22/02/09 to 28/02/09 = 28.41 x 7 = 198.87
total interest = 28.44 + 170.46 + 198.87 + 198.87 + 198.87 = 795.51

O/S = 301,339.92
interest for march;
Interest for 01/03/09 =28.48
O/S now = 301,005.17
Interest from 02/03/09 to 07/03/09 = 28.45 x 6 = 170.70
O/S now = 300,209.66
Interest from 08/03/09 to 14/03/09 = 28.45 x 7 = 199.15
O/S  now= 299,874.91
Interest from 15/03/09 to 21/03/09 = 28.45 x 7 = 199.15
O/S  now= 299,540.16
Interest from 22/03/09 to 31/03/09 = 28.45 x 10 = 284.50
total interest = 28.48 + 170.70 + 199.15+ 199.15 + 284.50  = 881.98
so pay monthly installment RM1339 is different from 4 x 334.75,,,,
which one better? i think you can compare...

i think same thing also when you want to pay lump sum payment
example RM10000 one time is better than RM1000 x 10 times on different days.
correct arr??
also
there are banks that calculate interest based on Daily rest monthly compounded ...
if it's daily rest, it's actually a simple maths,

Unfortunately some banks are "daily rest" but they must be having very "special" formula and they cannot tell you...
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You forget to calculate the petrol needed for 4 trip.


Added on July 10, 2009, 7:46 amsaving extra few bucks, with a lot of harassment. =.= unless you are really free.

This post has been edited by yssee85: Jul 10 2009, 07:46 AM

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