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Phoeni_142
post Jan 22 2009, 08:27 PM

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Am going to refinance my property. Loan amount slightly under 400K.

all Bankers - pls PM me with your contact details, if possible.

Am particularly interested in knowing about packages that pay for my early penalty fees. tx.
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post Feb 18 2009, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ddaniell @ Feb 16 2009, 09:41 PM)
is public bank have good package?

my property price = rm 234,682.40
90% loan = rm 211,214.16
got up to 40 years
BLR - 1.8 (blr = 5.95)
zero moving cost
lock in 5 years
flexi
reduce the principle if pay more <-----------need detail

the banker calculate my installment is rm 916 (including mrta up to 20 years)

is this ok? i hope everyone can give opinion about this.
and i heard public bank got many hidden charges.is it true?

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PBB is one of my bankers.

IMHO - that package above is no longer competitive.

1. If i'm not wrong, that product is a plain vanilla flexi homeloan. It's not a Mortgage One or Savelink variant from SCB or ABMB. In other words - it does not have a Savings / Current Account offset feature. So no biggie.

2. Nothing great about -1.8% if rates is what you're looking for. Some banks can go up to -2.2% ZEC and -2.4% non ZEC.

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post Feb 19 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ddaniell @ Feb 19 2009, 08:22 PM)
phoeni_142

which bank offer that rate?
maybe the bank still not reduce the BLR to 5.95...
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oh - i am quite sure they have. pls do your homework before being a skeptic, my friend.
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post Feb 20 2009, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(a6meister @ Feb 20 2009, 12:01 AM)
BLR - 2% is very common, as stated by another forumer, blr - 2.4 even exist.

which bank ?

based on my current situation, i have 2 housing loan, one from standard chartered and another from public bank, both are blr - 2%, which is 3.95%

These are house loan.

If commercial property, such as shoplot, the interest is different, which higher.
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1. Is your SCB homeloan a standard conventional or Mortgage One? Same question for your PB loan

2. When was your loan approved?


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post Mar 2 2009, 05:45 PM

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well it depends - u can get -2.1% for less than 100K as well, for a conventional loan in SCB.

but pls bear in mind - it's not a pure flexi loan. Only MortgageOne should be classified as a pure flexi. And unfortunately, they don't charge that cheap.
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post Mar 6 2009, 12:00 PM

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To all bankers out there. I am exploring other options again, other than my regular bankers.

I am an investor with more than 4 properties in my CCRIS. I need 90% margin of financing. I am not interested in anything less than 90% financing. My repayment record is clean, and my debt to income ratio is very healthy.

PM me to let me know what I need to do to give your credit processing units a level of comfort.

If u can tell me the ways of securing my 90% financing - i'd be most interested in doing business with you. Feel free to PM me.

thanks.
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post Mar 8 2009, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 7 2009, 06:03 PM)
For the withdrawal part, its usually called hidden charges. Some banks have it once you've done past 5 transactions in a month or something like tht. If you are interested you can give me a call @ 012-3871138 and i'll come up with all the legal cost and monthly installment for you.


Added on March 7, 2009, 6:06 pm

FD's or other source of income would help. Normally the bank would prefer you to open an FD with them.
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Yes, I know that, chief. Obviously, I need the specifics - e.g. FD amount to be 1/3 loan exposure? FD / UT / Stcoks that are 24 x of your installments? Each bank varies in terms of their deviation approvals. I'm suprised that most bankers (those that I've met anyway) - can't give me any specifics.....
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post Mar 10 2009, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(DriedIce @ Mar 10 2009, 12:24 AM)
For FD would be about half your loan size or less. Did a case before they requested half the loan size for as the person was still under probation and the 2nd applicant was too old.

So in your case 1/3 the loan size would be sufficient if you are employed.

Most bankers can't give you the specific as they prefer it if you can give more docs the better for them. No need to go through the hassle of appeal and all that..


Added on March 10, 2009, 12:27 am

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Well, I need the specifics to prepare the additional doc's, dont' I?

anyway - thanks for the interesting conversation.
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post Mar 10 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Mar 10 2009, 03:03 PM)
interesting? Which FI is this?  smile.gif
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Pai & MeeJawa - I think it's time we met up to discuss all loopholes.

I find the 50% FD rule which disregard CCRIS a bit hard to believe - but hey - the more "loopholes" the better.

The amount of "extra" documentation which I have in my house is now ridiculously high.

Different banks have different treatments of giving 90% margin to investors with more than 4 prop's. And it's perplexing that bankers (those I've met) are very vague.

I think Pai even discovered one which still gives 90% irregardless on how many number of prop's u own!

Pre-packaging can be easier - if we know all the "rules of thumbs" which bankers use. That way, I'll be able to standardize my documentation pack.....

So - what say u all? PM for timing and details?


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post Mar 26 2009, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 26 2009, 10:45 AM)
I got an offer for loan as following:-

Total loan : RM281K (loan + MRTA + FEC)
MOF        : abt 69%
tenure      : 30 yrs
loan type  : Flexi loan + current account. Cheque book and ATM card provided with no charge for withdrawal. RM200 for one time setup fee and monthly fee of RM10. Daily interest calculation.

for first 2 yrs it is BLR - 2.35 then follow by BLR-2.20 for whole tenure..
Do you guys think it is good deal?
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terms seem fair, except for one point.

the MOF. U r willing to foot up 31% (approx 120K) for this? I wouldn't.
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post Mar 26 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 26 2009, 01:15 PM)
Initially, i planned to pay more than RM120K using my own money as i don't wan borrow so much from bank...
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own stay or investment?


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post Mar 26 2009, 04:05 PM

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Well, chief.

The terms are good. But one of the main reasons they could offer u a lower rate is because your application less "risky", due to your hefty 120K downpayment.

I assume u have more than enough cash and have thought about your decision thoroughly to plonk down 30%. However, for poor people like me - I need that 120K for other potential investments.

So - if u r comfortable with your decision - be happy with it.

cheers bud
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post Apr 4 2009, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ Apr 3 2009, 08:24 PM)
Chin Ming,

Have a few questions, and properties to be refinanced.

I think I've seen some of your postings, but fro brevity here, can you confirm if the packages above are :

1. Full flexi
2. Extra pre payment which automatically reduce principle (and thus interest)
3. No notice period for prepayment
4. Lock in period and the penalty?
5. Can withdraw anytime with no penalty and notice
6. Monthly fees?
7. All-in-one account (checking/savings/loan/atm card)
8. internet banking? fees for GIRO and Bill payment?

Thanks!
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Chin Ming,

I'm also interested. I have PM you my e-mail. Please send a pdf doc of your home loan statement to me. I'm only interested in the flexi package similar to Mortgage One from SCB. I can get my answers from the statement. Thanks.
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post Apr 4 2009, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 4 2009, 01:22 PM)
I dun think OCBC have any Full Flexi package like Mortgage One from SCB.
OCBC always tell people they have Semi-Flexi that function like Full flexi which for me is just useless and no different from normal conventional term loan.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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That's would I've heard too. I have always been a big fan of Mortgage One, but need to explore elsewhere now.

The statement will tell a thousand words. Sometimes, even better than a sales person.
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post Apr 5 2009, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 4 2009, 07:10 PM)
But i wonder why there's no action from any flexi loan's bank or Bank Negara.
They telling everyone in anywhere including in their talks/presentation/seminar.
How can those banks let them say like that? or is that real of what they talking about flexi? (chance might be 0.001%) blink.gif
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there's absolutely no chance at all. Like what Boon mentioned, this particular "S" consultant mortgage company is just terrified stiff that there business proposition would be zilch, if everyone takes a flexi loan.

I suspect that some bankers would complain to BNM soon about these jokers.......Just like how some landbanking companies got caught with their pants down in the end.
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post May 11 2009, 03:19 PM

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I agree with Merce on this one.

A lot of people (including seasoned investors) get this point a bit mixed up.

In short - they confuse themselves. (me too, sometimes) Full Flexi / Semi flexi - has NOTHING to do with the offsetting of principle or interest or whatever. (Yes, it's important to understand that, but it's nothing to do with the term "flexi") Each bank has varrying treatments on how principal and interest is amortized over the loan tenure.

Let me give u a clear example of semi flexi. A bank is considered "semi-flexi" if u do not have the flexibility to withdraw funds with ease and convenience. For instance, I have to put in a request via writing - wait 5 days - and then the bank issues a cheque. For full flexi -u have the discretion to do so at your own ease because u already have full control at the onset.

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