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post Dec 26 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(SowYau @ Dec 26 2008, 11:11 AM)
hi everyone, i just paid booking fee for a condo unit, now scouting for housing loan, if u guys got any special loan package, please PM me, thanks.

purchase price: RM315,000
building status: completed (9 years ago)
location: Brickfields KL
type of use: Residential Condominium
land tenure: Freehold
preferred margin of finance: 90% (RM283,500)
preferred loan package: term loan (without overdraft facilities)
MRTA/MLTA: no
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Hi SowYau,


With you currently loan amount I could offer you BLR -1.9% for ZMC & BLR 2.0% for nZMC. If you are not looking for a overdraft facility, i believe semi-flexi conventional loan would suit you better.

Do let me know if you wish to know more about mortgage loans. You may reach me at my mobile or email.

Hope to hear from you soon. smile.gif


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post Jan 11 2009, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(onlinefever @ Jan 11 2009, 04:54 PM)
could anyone here please explain the difference between term loan+overdraft and flexi loan? what's the benefit of both package?
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Hi,

Well i'm not sure whether is your "term loan+overdraft" different from "flexi loan", cause it looks like the same to me... but i'll explain the different between term loan and flexi loan in general.

You may refer to this link for the my post.

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1) What is the difference between Term Loan and Flexi Loan in terms of interest calculation?
- There is not different in interest calculation between Term Loan and Flexi Loan actually, both runs under the same principal where interest is calculated base on your principal balance. Mortgage loan these days are mostly "daily rest" calculations. The different is more on the facilities of the package, which can be differ as below;

a) With a conventional term loan, you may be able to pay additional money to reduce your principal, unless it is stated other wise by your Letter Offer. However, standard conventional term loan doesn't allow you to withdraw that additional amount in case you need those in the future. Conventional term loan are pretty straight forward when it comes to interest calculations, cause what ever goes into the loan account stays there and figures are pretty easy to recognize. It's all in the statement.

b) Flexi Loan on the other hand has a current account attached to the loan account. (so there's actually 2 accounts) The deposit in that linked current account is consider an "off-set" to your principal. Example, if you have a RM 300k flexi loan, deposit RM 100k into your linked current account and the bank would calculate your interest based on the amount of RM 200k. That RM 100k would act as a principal reduction. And the best part is, you can use that deposit any time you want. (using it as any other current account). However, you might find a bit more difficult to identify the whole statement if you are not familiar with account (and numbers!)


Do give me a call if you wish to know more.


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post Feb 11 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Futura @ Feb 9 2009, 07:32 PM)
Hi People,

I'm goin to buy a used condo unit worth 142k. If I put 20% d/p, cimb bank offer me BLR (5.95)-1.95 for 30years tenure. That said, my monthly repayment is about RM560 inclusive of legal fees.

I was wondering normally how much is the legal fees? I mean, the cost to hire a lawyer to do the S&P agreement...Addition to this, what other 'hidden costs' that I need to pay during the purchasing process?

Thanks in advance!  notworthy.gif
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For loan amount less than RM 150k, best prepare around RM 3000 for SPA agreement.

and probably another RM 3000 for Loan agreement if you are taking non Zero Moving Cost.

There's a table for reference actually, as SPA and Loan agreement is charged based on percentage of the loan amount and transaction price. but i dont have the chart with me at the moment.

other hidden cost? depending on bank actually. some have some doesnt. Ask the bank officer who's attending you about any other charges on your loan package and write it down.

If its a condo then probably you'll have to take note about the Memorandum of Transfer, the charges of strata title if its yet to be issued. that will cost you a few thousand as well, but only when its has been issued. best check with the seller on this matter.

thats all i can think at the moment.

give me a call if you need any further details on the above.



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post Feb 28 2009, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(kucaixx @ Feb 27 2009, 02:58 PM)
Hi all, need advise on home loan for completed property as below. Tq

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Property value - rm215,000
Looking for min 90% loan
Tenure for 30yrs
ZEC or non-ZEC, depend on the rate
Allow prepayment
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Hi kucaixx,


Property Value - RM 215000
Loan amount - RM 193500 (90%)
Tenure - 30 years
Interest Rate - BLR -1.80% (ZMC) / BLR -2.00% (nZMC)
Loan account - Semi-flexi
Installment - RM 941.00 (based on BLR at 5.95 and interest rate of BLR-1.80%)

Semi-flexi allows you to do prepayment without notice, however for OCBC my advise to inform them what kind of prepayment you wish to proceed. Cause we have 2 types of approach, 1 withdrawable and the other not.

Give me a call if you need further details and i'll see what i can help you with.


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post Mar 10 2009, 10:44 PM

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There is one bank, which will DISREGARD CCRISS if you put 50% of money in FD smile.gif.


actually if u put 50% FD ur margin is at 40% or less already. majority of the bank wouldnt mind loosen their guideline a little more since the risk assessment for them has been lower by a huge margin.

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Oh, btw, there are many banks who will disregard your other commitment (ie your properties financed by other banks). This is one of the "loopholes" I took full advantage of earlier. Not sure if it's still the same now...


all Housing loan will appear in ur CCRIS... and i hate to break the bubbles, but the only housing loan that wont appear on CCRIS is the housing loan that isnt finance by any bank... go figure icon_idea.gif

and they have quite some high interest rates there...

So pratically, they have your record regardless where u go.


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I think Pai even discovered one which still gives 90% irregardless on how many number of prop's u own!


Psst~ Pai... pm me the details. xD

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post May 10 2009, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(meejawa @ May 10 2009, 08:18 AM)
One advice, if your goal is to have full flexi features, check if it's REALLY FULL FLEXI, not semiflexi, half flexi, or whatever mumbojumbo the banks will tell you. So far I have not come across ANY local banks offering full flexi, but that was last month (heard EON is doing it). Things are changing so fast nowadays, make sure you get what you want. Make sure there is no charge or notice for prepayment and withdrawal, and check on monthly maintenance fees, and check if it's all in one (loan, checking, ATM, etc.), and it's daily rest calculation, and "prepayment" does not mean ADVANCE payment. Remember, full flexi offsets PRINCIPLE, not INTEREST. Some banks can easily confuse the purchasers with these....
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actually there are quite a number of local banks offering full-flexi loan...

these are the few local banks who offer full-flexi mortgage loan, just to name a few;

1)Alliance Bank
2)CIMB Bank
3)Hong Leong Bank
4)Public Bank

and etc...

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Remember, full flexi offsets PRINCIPLE, not INTEREST


no offence, but i think you got the “terms” and “facilities” confused.

The term "Full-flexi"is a loan structure, it has nothing to do with principal reduction. It's one of the characteristic of a mortgage loan structures available on the market.

All 3 types of Loan structures (full-flexi, semi-flexi & conventional) have their own behavior of principal reduction, in which may also vary from the lenders or financiers themselves.

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...and "prepayment" does not mean ADVANCE payment.

A bank definition's of "prepayment" is usually referring to a larger amount money meant for capital payment/down-payment than the installment amount, or the additional amount of money after installment. Whether does it contribute to ADVANCE payment, depends on the Terms & Condition and the Restriction of the loan itself.

Now go smack the banker who told you "prepayment" means advance payment. rolleyes.gif

Still, I do agree with meejawa. It's always better to do your study on Mortgage Loan before you approach bank officers. Understanding the Terms itself can and WILL help you to avoid unnecessary hassle, and to protect yourself from confusion.


Hope the above helps. smile.gif


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post Jul 7 2009, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(jhbey @ Jul 1 2009, 10:02 PM)
my f**kup bank also refuse to revise my loan interest.
I walked in to the bank branch and talked to the mortgage personal. after 2 weeks, no reply. then i called the mortgage personal again, that fella say will help to check again. after 2 days, receive call from the bank saying their management refuse to revise my loan interest rate. reason is my loan outstanding is less than RM100k. must more than RM100k only they will lower the interest rate.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:07 pm

OCBC doesn't have ZERO moving cost. All evaluation fee, loan stamp duty, loan legal fee have to pay by ourselves.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:11 pmIf anyone know any bank offer renovation loan package, please share.
NOT personal loan.
I am thinking of getting a basic unit house. Then get renovation loan and renovate myself.
If not, then I have to find those unit that already renovated.
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jhbey, i would appreciate if you do some research before you make any claims.

OCBC do have Zero Moving Cost.

Please check your loan package, whether its ZMC, nZMC or LVS package before signing or commit to any bank.


best regards,


Added on July 7, 2009, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(yssee85 @ Jul 5 2009, 05:52 PM)
ERM, ocbc have zero moving, its call LVS package.
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OCBC has Zero Moving Cost, Non Zero Moving Cost & LVS Package (Finance Entry Cost)


Regards,

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post Jul 7 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 5 2009, 02:40 PM)
I'd like to raise a new issue in Housing Loan.

My banker has mistaken my application as a joint-borrowers application whereas I wanted a a sole-borrower one. The other borrower is my gf.

At first I thought of putting my name alone to be the borrower so that my gf's profile can be remained "clean".

After realizing the issue, the banker said that if I remove her name, the rate will not be this good. Furthermore, according to him, if the future 2nd property is under both names, it doesn't make any difference.

Questions:
1. Is one borrower alone better than joint?

2. If I am getting BLR-2.3% as joint-borrowers application but BLR-2.2% otherwise, which one is better?

PS: sorry for the layman terms sweat.gif
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hi,

1)the lesser the better. but again this is from my personal 2 cents. cool2.gif

2)to be honest, i never heard of such thing where 2 borrower can have a lower rates? what kind of risk assessment are we looking at? less possibility of NPL? perhaps you can double confirm on this with the banker, see whats his answer.


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post Jul 8 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(exhausted @ Jul 8 2009, 11:11 AM)
Also, not to forget that once you withdraw from EPF for home purchase, you will need to sell off the house before you can withdraw again. You might want to check out PBB for the home loan.


Added on July 8, 2009, 11:13 am

FYI, the ocbc banker told me that they have temporarily stopped the zero moving cost packages.
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that never happened. smile.gif

a missunderstanding perhaps? i just closed a ZMC loan less than 2 weeks ago.



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post Jul 11 2009, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(Mikken @ Jul 10 2009, 03:15 PM)
Always buy top floor when buying condo for investment

The pricing of condo by most developers is that as you go higher, the price will be higher. Some buyer choose higher floor because of better view and some investor will choose lower floor or not so high floor to take advantage of cheaper price. But are higher floors more expensive as far as investor is concerned, to me, it is not really so. The higher floor is costlier and not necessary more expensive. As the buyers are billed by developer according to stages of completion. The first 10% being upon signing of sale & purchase agreement, the second 10% being upon completion of foundation and the third 15% being upon completion of structure. If one is taking a 80% loan for the purchase of condo and if he is buying a top floor, then he may only need to pay 20% and loan release will only take place when the construction of structure reach top floor, thus saving on substantial amount of interest payment. If one is buying low floor, the billing for completion of structure and all subsequent billings will be much earlier and interest charges will incur. Therefore if an investor is buying lower floor, he will incur higher interest charges whereas if he buys higher floor, he has to pay a higher purchase price but buying higher floor offer an advantage in term of better cash flow for the investor as if the investor is taking only 80% loan, he may only need to service the loan when the overall structure is almost completed, i.e. when the overall project is probably 50% completed and the number of months where interest is charged till completion is also less considering that the remaining construction time needed is much shorter compared with if one is buying lower floor

How true is this statement? Anyone care to enlighten me?
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depends on how u look at it...

as far i'm concerned... season investors seldom invest on the highest floor.

probably the 2nd or the third highest, but never the highest.

1)highest floor means you are just on the roof bottom, also means u r the 1st level of exposure if there's a leak during a storm or rainy days.
2)Heat... no matter how good the heat insulation are constructed, u r still next to the roof top.
3)Radio & satellite dishes, harmful waves etc etc?

my 2 cents.
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post Aug 4 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Invinsible-Pp @ Aug 2 2009, 06:28 PM)
noooo.....remember full flexi loan's interest always lower if compare to term loan....So you must know which type is ur prefered.
Flexi loan not only can dump ur savings to reduce interest or tenures..there is still many more benefits. In another words, flexi loan is same as term loan, it juz than when u dump ur money inside , u can withdraw anytime (full-flexi).

For some rich invester, they said flexi loan is a kind of loan that applicant have right to decide how much interest will forgone to bank....thus, BLR-how much is not important for them/.....
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i'm a little confused here...

can u elaborate how does a full-flexi loan's interest is always lower?

thanks.
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Invinsible-Pp @ Aug 4 2009, 12:44 AM)
the lower i mean actually is BLR-''lower compare to term loan''.....

Eg; Assuming loan amount and package are same... flexi loan will have blr-2, while term/conventional loan will have blr-2.15

Sorry if i confused you...
no offence, perhaps you should check your facts before making that statement.

also a side note, whether if its a full-flexi, semi-flexi or a conventional housing loan, they ARE all Term Loan.




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post Sep 15 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(whojen @ Sep 15 2009, 03:13 PM)
Properties above 500k.
Good news for you people and Bad news for other bankers

(Good news)
Standard Chart is offering crazy rates.
-2.51 First 2 years
-2.3 Folllowing years

(Bad news)
To my fellow bankers.  ( Dammm crazy pricing)
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Zero or Non-Zero?
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post Sep 16 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(whojen @ Sep 16 2009, 12:25 AM)
Yeah. Very crazy rates indeed. Almost got a heart attack from there. Lost few potential client because of this.
I have sighted the Letter of Offer but was not given opportunity to study it closer
If i were to say Zero cost.
Would you faint and run to s.charted now?
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nope... i'll just study the whole package through out to know the product better.

rates are just number. smile.gif

TnC is more important from my point of view.
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post Nov 4 2009, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:55 AM)
EON targets RM200mil home loans in 3 months
New loan package will be pegged to fixed deposit rates

KUALA LUMPUR: EON Bank Bhd targets to approve home loans worth RM200mil in three months with the launch of its new Super Easi 123 Home Loan Fixed Deposit, according to group chief executive officer Michael Lor. “We are also expecting to rake in at least 1,000 new customers with this new home loan package,” he said at the launch of new home loan product yesterday. Lor said he was anticipating “overwhelming response” to this transparent and innovative product because of its attractive features.

“There is a lot of talk of interest rates going up but yet there is one bank that is offering a new home loan option that is pegged against the 12-month fixed deposit (FD) rate,” he said. Lor said a home loan pegged to the FD rate would be more transparent and enable EON Bank customers to plan their finances better. “Everyone understands FD rates because the rates are prominently displayed and disclosed in our banking halls and website,” he said.

The bank’s one-year FD rate is 2.5%, while its benchmark base lending rate (BLR) currently stands at 5.55%.

The new loan product is competitively offered at up to FD rate + 1.25% and is available to all customers who apply for a home loan with EON Bank, both for refinancing and purchases of completed properties with a minimum property value of RM200,000.

Lor also said the bank was confident of achieving more than 10% loan growth by end of 2009 with the campaigns and promotions launched this year.

“The bank had already achieved more than RM1.5bil in home loans as at end September,” he said. Lor said the home loan segment remained important to EON Bank as consumer lending represented 65% of the total value of its lending assets. “In the last two or three months, we saw some positive trends in the economy and it (the economy) will continue to improve following the pro-business Budget 2010 announced recently.
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yay~ another new mortgage index! tongue.gif

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post Feb 28 2010, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(leesa @ Feb 28 2010, 12:04 AM)
does it mean that it works something like this:

say on the 30th, i put in my salary of 4k. if i take a loan of 200k, thus the interest for the next month would be calculated based on 196k?

i dont really understand how it works, the part where the longer the money stays in the account, the better it is.

also, stan chart is offering me zero entry cost but due to the location of the bank and interbank transfer costs, i'm not so keen on stan chart. how much would this ZEC come to (my property is 299k)?

are there any other banks offering ZEC?
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For a daily rest loan, interest is calculated on daily basis where they will review the outstanding, as mentioned, everyday. If you credit the 4k on the 7th of the month, from there onwards the calculation will be taken from the new outstanding balance, ie outstanding - 4k. For the 6 days before that, interest is still calculated based on, in ur case, RM 200k.

For a monthly rest loan, it is only calculated on the a specific day of the month. In which u may not save the interest even if u credit an amount of money before that day.

see the difference?

hope the above helps
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the selling point for a full-flexi is the linked account with the housing loan, which makes the withdrawal of additional payment a lot easier if require in the future.

however, the structure itself favors more towards those who are fully utilizing the linked current account, ie one who deals with alot of cash flow.


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QUOTE(leesa @ Mar 3 2010, 08:53 PM)
yeah, they call it BFR (base finance rate, i think) that is the same as the BLR which is currently at 5.5%. guess the plus points of islamic is the ceiling rate.

any downsides or not? islamic cant be all good only right? biggrin.gif
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plus point isnt just ceiling rate, some bank's islamic package offers 0 year lock-in period.

Islamic HL has gone through quite some changes in their terms compare to the previous ones. It does look promising currently but i personally feel its too early to tell.

downside? bound to islamic regulations i guess... but any1 here studies shariah laws?
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QUOTE(imax80 @ Mar 3 2010, 10:25 PM)
hi merce,

i would like to ask some questions about OCBC home loan semi-flexi.

1. what is the difference between capital account and advance account  in term of functions and interest calculation?

2. if my installment is RM600, can i pay in stages i.e RM200 per week before the due date?

3. if i want to pay more to the principal do i need to inform the officer in the counter?

appreciate your reply.
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1)-Capital prepayment is a lump sum payment that goes to the the re-drawable account in your HL facility. You are still require to serve the installment for the month and also the following ones. This amount can be withdraw when you send a withdrawal request in the future.
-Advance installment is where the lump sum payment is structure as scheduled installments until the amount has been fully utilized. For example, if your installment is RM 1k per month, and you made an Advance Installment of RM 50k, your installment is covered for the next 50 months. However, it is non re-drawable. This is very similar to SI (Standing Instruction), except that SI is transaction from SA/CA to HL account, where else Adv Inst is direct from HL account to its own.

Both the above reduces the principal amount when it is credited into the HL account. So usually, we'll teach the customer how to split their money to capital and advance to minimized the interest, and save the hassle of making monthly payment manually.

2)Yes, u may pay in stages before the due date. Do make sure the total amount is sufficient to cover the installment amount.

3)Any additional amount you pay after the installment goes to the principal. If you wish to pay directly to the principal, just inform the teller (officer inside the counter) what type of prepayment you wish the bank to execute, ie Cap or Adv. If you are paying through cheque using the CDM (cheque deposit machine), just write a note at the back of the cheque to inform the bank the portion for installment/interest, capital or advance.

Take note that all excessive amount from your installment will be treated as Advance Installment if there is no instruction given.

Hope the above helps. smile.gif

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QUOTE(mouldybread @ Mar 18 2010, 09:30 AM)
hi sifus,

i was told that there is a new rule concerning the full-flex accounts that are offered by the banks-: if you put in 70% or above into the account, the bank will charge an extra 1% based on existing amount in account. this is because the banks find that the full-flex products are causing them to loose money as a lot of people put in all their cash in the flex account.

example of what i mean

1)
borrowed 100k using flex account
i put in 100k into account
since it is more than 70%, 1000rm extra will be charged per annum ie 83.33rm per month
so final charge will be 83.33+10 = 93.33rm for that month

2)
borrowed 100k using flex account
i put in 75k into account
since it is more than 70%, 750rm extra will be charged per annum ie 62.5rm per month
the usual charge for the 25k = 83.33rm per month (assume 4% interest)
so final charge will be 62.5+83.33+10 = 155.83rm for that month

3)
borrowed 100k using flex account
i put in 50k into account
since it is less than 70%, no 1 % extra charge
the usual charge for the 50k = 166.67rm per month (assume 4% interest)
so final charge will be 166.67+10 = 176.67rm for that month
in this case the calculation is like the old full-flex package
would appreciate if anybody can confirm if my information is correct.

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yes, some banks had already imposed the above TnC, but not all.



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