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This thread is built for any questions that lingers through your thoughts and mind about any hardware.
Ask anything you want to ask, we'll help you in getting the answer for your question.

Quote from lucifah:

ill post first
sorry if the question is a little bit off topic..

besides of the size, what is/are the other differences between DVD+R (4485MB) and DVD-R (4489MB)?
ive been flooded with this question several times and i still dont know the right answer to give..

Whats the stable temperature for 8800 Ultra.& what is the danger level.

they are just 2 competing format, just like blu-ray and hd-dvd now
currently most dvd players or drives can read both without any problem at all, though older 1 might just support either 1
for technical difference between them, u can read more on wiki
it's something about how the data is written by the red laser

Guys, here noob a question:

Could I change my heatsink fan(so noisy!!) without changing to a new processor?

Yes offcourse.
You're on which platform right now?

of course u can change it..
but just an advice, if u changed it to 3rd party hsf, better keep the stock hsf, dun sell it or lost it..it will be used when u want to send the proc to rma..

P4 2.8E, Mobo:MSI PM8M-V

Which silent hsf is the best (value for money)?

may i know y now ppl(most shop) sell e6320 but not e6300?

e6300 has been phased out, as e6320 has higher fsb and is an upgrade of e6300

Pentium 4 2.4 2400 MHz 512 KiB 400 MT/s 24x

Pentium 4 2.4B 2400 MHz 512 KiB 533 MT/s 18x

both chips having the same frequency 2400mhz, same cache, but different FSB and multiplier, the question is, which works faster?
(doesn't understand what google can tell me , help!)

the 2nd one works faster.

dudes, one noob q

why is it sometimes, or most of the times, the cheaper cpu's can be faster than the expensive ones

like the Q6600 or its predecessor E6600, is the best performer compared to the QX6800 or the AMD X2 6000+ better than the more expensive intel counterpart?

or the E series or the Pentium Dual Core is better than AMD X2 or the FX series?

just need a basic answer

What's the point of comparing dual core with quad core ??
And I dont think that E6600 is the predecessor of Q6600.

By basic, QX6800 should perform better than Q6600.

which is better? x800pro or 6800 vanilla?

how to check ATI graphic card Temp?? coz i find from catalyst control center cant find also..

6800 can enable more effect than x800
due to directx 9c vs directx 9 vanilla

try using ATI Tray Tools

sorry my mistake, tat time i just came back from class and was blur blur

Want to ask...isn't brand Colorful is reliable? I'm want getting gc from brand Colorful but scared about the brand.

it is reliable, dont worry

And may i know what same level Nvidia with X1600XT? Anyway thanks for helping me.

x1600xt roughly same with 7600gt

Thanks for that answer. Just using and sastify with it.

colorful not bad la....full of color mah....
as for X1600XT,almost same performance than 7600GS,as for 7600GT is almost same as X1650XT....

Hi all, want to ask a noob question here, does notebook using pc100 sodimm ram can use pc133 sodimm ram or not? can't find any pc100 on the market oledi, so will consider if pc133 can be used.

i guess no problem seems it backward compatible..ur PC133 will be detected/rated as PC100

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jun 29 2007, 07:27 PM

Thanks for the info, looks like better be careful than sorry after....

noob question here... casing side panel air hole for installin casing fan should be intake or outtake? and also the top surface of casing fan hole? intake or outtake? i wan to build a nice air flow system casing..

usually the front will be the intake while the rear will be the exhaust..
just like air coming from the front and blew out at behind..

and about the top or side, it depends on u..
usually i will make the top as exhaust, while the side is for intake to cool down my graphic card..

that's what i do.

it doesn't make sense to have top as intake, as that would go against the law of physics of hot vs cold air movements

it doesn't make snese to have fans on the lower side of the casing as exhaust either, as that would mean that cold air are taken out. and again, it's not using the law of physics to help the system.

Okay bro, since you're the Sifu, let me ask you something, what about the sidepanel fan?

Yea, most casing put the sidepanel fan as intake, but as far as we all know, we know that Lian-Li casings put the sidepanel fan as exhaust.

What do you think bro?

IMO deciding which one as intake or exhaust depends on the placement of the fan (height).

if you notice casings generally use the front panel fan as intake and the fan at the back (near PSU) as exhaust.

perhaps LianLi made that design for a purpose of blowing out the hot air produced by graphic card..

but if we think logically, its quite 'bad' to suck out the fresh air that are supposed to be used to cool down the graphic card..

so, intake is better..at least we can cool our soundcard and mobo as well

This post has been edited by kalakatu: Jun 29 2007, 11:46 PM

well, in any case it better to have one direction air flows.. just intake from front and exhaust at back... no need top and left.

hmm...if the position of side panel fan is at the top left side leh? means at the position of Proc with a turbine.... the fan should be intake or outtake? how about the position of side panel fan hole is in the middle of side panel or bottom left(graphic card)?

2nd ques... the Proc fan is blowing the air to the heat sink or sukin air from heatsink?

it should be intake, so that ur processor will be cooled down by a fresh air from outside

for me it should be intake as well, same reason as above: for cooling down ur gc

its blowing the air to the heatsink..

think logically, when u wanna drink something hot, u blow or u suck the hot air?
or when u feel hot, u stand at the front of the fan or behind the fan?

EDIT:problem fixed le. thank u everyone

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jul 2 2007, 08:37 PM

huh?10 pin??????????????????
u sure?
it is 20 pin i think,well,u can always cut it to become 20 pin,not to worry.

mind explain what law of physic are u using?

aerodynamic perhaps

can two sticks of ram one cl3 other one is cl2.5 running dual channel?
their timing same of different?

Umm actually your explanation doesn't make sense. What you want is to keep air flow in your case circulating, expelling hot air and sucking in cold air. Since Hot air rises, what you need to do is make sure the exhausts are expelling the hot air as it rises to the top. Front fans are usually intake fans because they bring in cold air from the outside to the bottom of the case and thermodynamics will take it to the top of the case where it can be expelled. That's why good cable management makes such a big difference in the cooling of a case.. hot air doesn't get trapped behind obstructions and ill placed cards.

When you want to drink something the quickest way is usually to stir it with a metallic object (ie heatsink). Standing in front of a fan works because the airflow is designed to be channeled through the front. Imagine if you were sitting in a box with a wall to your back - all the hot air would just be blown towards you and get trapped in the back. You would still feel hot because you would just have hot air being recirculated around you. If you stand in a wind tunnel with no wall to your back, you'll be a lot cooler because there's no hot air to get trapped behind you. That's why having an exhaust where your graphics card/processor is probably a best idea esp since those pieces are producing the most heat.

thanks for the clarifications
actually im not very good in explaining this kind of terms..so i just explained in which part i did understand only, and using the simplest language i ever known..
and basically my explanations before was just a simple and basic example..

it's thermodynamic.

haha..dunno..im sux in physics
at least got same 'dynamic' at behind the word

have a noob question , what's FSB? I know it's labelled on a MOBO...but dont really know what's FSB.....

and there's two different figure which is internal graphic fsb and external graphic fsb ...

lastly , when people overclock mobo......they overclock the FSB huh ?

fsb is front side bus..yeah modify fsb to overclock.. fsb x multiplier = clock speed
but i never heard of internal/external graphic fsb.

i need help here..
can two sticks of ram one cl3 other one is cl2.5 running dual channel?
their timing same or different?

cl2.5 and cl3.0 sure different. Never heard different timing can run dual channel. Try this,
change the CAS# Latency to 3.0 for both (change can be made in BIOS configure - MOBO). Maybe it can run dual channel after that.

Never tried using 2 different stick with different CL before but tried using 2 different pair with different CL (one pair is CL3, another pair CL2). This will work in dual channel but timing will be configured automatically by itself. Sometimes causing the Mhz to go way below the 150Mhz mark..(thats for DDR400)..


Simple Question here..

Does computer peripherals especially wireless stuff need specific battery capacity?I am about to purchase a wireless mouse and wondering, do it need specific battery capacity like 1600mAH or 2700mAH etc?

i dont think so....as far as i know the mAH is NOT how strong the power is..but more towards how much power can be stored... so the higher the number..the longer the battery will last compared with a lower number (with the same usage of course).

thx buli2..
ok..my next question is
3-3-2-0 consider loose or tight timing? running at 500mhz..

any personal comment about this ram AENEON ce-5 pc3200..

considered normal, not that tight, not that loose.
Nice ram you got there

Hmm, PC3200? i think ur speed in Mhz is 250Mhz. 250x2=DDR500.

Normal timing for DDR is 3-3-3-8 with 200Mhz. Ur timing is 3-3-2-0, I say.. tight timing bro!!

AENEON CE-5? nice RAM there

This post has been edited by bulibulizaimon: Jul 4 2007, 06:35 PM

CAn u all tell me what is the difference between LCD-TV and LCD-Monitor?
Which one is better in terms of pic quality? From the price, why LCD-Monitor is more expensive? Ex. Dell 2707WFP.

i dunno much about the differences of it..but i have read about it somewhere, the picture from lcd monitor isnt very nice since it has a lower resolution..

sorry if my answer is wrong

i think you meant the "video output on LCD TV" instead of "picture from lcd monitor".

im very noob so excuse me k sifus...

can i oc using stock coolers? i tried OC'ing it from 2.01 to 2.10, and some ticking sound started to come from the cpu. is it normal? 1st time oc'ing here.

and if my proc is damaged (i don't care anyway, planning to upgrade), is my mobo gonna be damaged? i love my abit an8 ultra to pieces, cant bear to see it burn with the proc chip.

and between oc'ing ram, proc & gc, whic one is easier?

thanks.

This post has been edited by Bleed_X: Jul 4 2007, 09:28 PM

No prob OC using stock cooler. Is it 3200+ ? Normaly no weird sound appear if u OC it correctly. Check ur cpu temperature after OC.

Theres a posibility damaring cpu/mobo or both in OC. AN8 Ultra sure nice, dont burn it

I think OC GC more easier coz you just need to adjust the speed of core and mem, while CPU need to set voltage and multiplier, RAM need to set voltage and timing. But i think OC GC, RAM, CPU not difficult to learn

I need an opinion on hardware mainly Processor and mobo.

He is my situation.3 Monts ago I bought AMDX2 4600+ and Asus Crosshair mobo.And I am not realy happy with the performance so I want to upgrade.Since the barcelona is coming out soon I was thinking of just upgrading it.
But the price might be expensive so I was thinkin better I go for Intel e6600 and change my mobo to a p35 chipset cuz what I have read in near future amd will change its socket to AM2+ for phenom procs and I still cant upgrade anymore but Intel still supports 775 even with the new 45 nanometer proc with the p35.So I don't know if I should just upgrade to barcelona or change to intel setup.
Its so hard to keep up with the technology nowdays ..

I have an old socket 478 motherboard and I checked it's specs it's supports up to prescott processors.Currently I'm on willamette,but can I fit a socket 478 northwood processor into my motherboard?

should be no problem at all
since u said the specs mentioned supported processor of up to prescott
northwood is in between williamette and prescott
quoted from wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel...microprocessors

This post has been edited by alwizbthere: Jul 5 2007, 04:53 PM

yup,if ur mobo can suppoprt prescott then it has no problem support northwood,some of the mobo cant support Prescott cause of the the at least 1 mb cache.

guys...noob question...i'm buying TR SI120 ... so i wanna but 12mm fan for it .. the fan i looking for should have the connector same as original HSF aaa?? it's PMW fan aa?? not normal casing fan rite??

normal fan will do. the connector is not important.. anyway, its now PMW, but PWM fan

some fans when you buy they give you the smaller connector BUT they also add an additional wire for you to convert it to fit the molex.

what the diff between single sided and double sided in term of performance?

ehh. lesser CHIP on it. not lesser memory.

but nowadays 1gb ram mostly double sided one,am i right?

Hmm, single sided more cheap compare to double sided

for those who need a graphic card comparison...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html

and for CPU...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

then why high-performance ram like 1 gb kit is double sided?

erm..for notebook izit AMD turion cd X2 1.60Ghz and 1.80Ghz..izit 1.80 will faster alot?

High performance RAM is different, they were hand picked, and have some strict performance requirement to pass on each RAM chips (timings, speed etc). That's why normally they faster and more expensive

Mostly no, I would opted for more RAM than faster CPU speed

This post has been edited by Najmods: Jul 7 2007, 12:54 AM

note he said usually, not ALWAYS. performance rams have better chips.

where to connect the fan cable for coolermaster geminII? and if i dun have the fan cable can i use one of the psu connectors to power it??

up to u to power it up from the motherboard or direct from power suppy

ya but i cant seem to find a connector on the gemini..theres no "hole" to connect anything..how?

there is no power connector from the heatsink la bro
u place a fan there at GeminII, and then plug the cable from the fan to either ur motherboard or u power supply..

can a spec listed below handle 24" WS monitor at max resolution in vista?
amd athlon 64 x2 4400+
Abit KN9 SLI
2GB Ram
8800Gts 320MB (single)
coolermaster 450w real power

Why not? Even the lowly HD 2400 or 8500 can handle it if you just want to run Vista without playing games

haha..thx i figured that out

What software can check either graphic card faulty or not?

You don't need any. Just play games, if you see any graphics anomaly then it have problems. Or you can use ATiTool and use their 'Scan for artifact scanner' to check for graphics anomaly

Faulty in the sense off?

For artificats, i use 3DMark as a confirmation of whether its faulty or not..

what is the the letters V/S/L stand for when looking for mobo?

v= onboard graphic adaptor
s= onboard sound
l = built in ethernet/lan port

oh.. thx alot..

what is the new penryn processor? >.<" always confused with it..i used wikipedia to search and it says that its for laptop?

Can anyone please kindly teach me how to check the processor socket and also the FSB without using CPUZ?

you can find out processor by
1. booting time, the POST
2. Windows' SYSTEM information

with that processor info, it's up to your knowledge (or search the internet) for the FSB and socket information.

penryn is the code name for the new core 2 processor, which is based on the core micro architecture, but it has 6mb l2 cache rather than 4mb for conroe and it will use a newer 45nm process, and furthermore it's the 1st processor to use teh metal gate transistor rather than silicon, which according to intel could give more performance and it will be released next year i think...

Erm, noob question here, whats the average temperatur on Pentium 4.

I didn't care about it befre, but right after I changed my MOBO, I saw that its arround 60 - 70 'C, is that normal?

When I am runnning virus scanning or others heavy task, it will boost up to 80'c, normal again?

same thing happened with my previous P4 3.0GHz..
what did i do is, i took out the hsf, and applied the AS5, then the temperature became 40~50C (still higher compared with my Athlon64 939 )