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post Aug 28 2011, 02:19 AM, updated 15y ago

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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
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Manager :
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Steven Gerrard

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League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
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Division Two Winners -----> 4
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Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
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2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
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2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
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Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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SQUAD NUMBER FOR 2011/2012 SEASON

* 1. Jones
* 2. Johnson
* 3. Enrique
* 4. Meireles
* 5. Agger
* 6. Aurelio
* 7. Suarez
* 8. Gerrard
* 9. Carroll
* 10. J Cole(LOAN)
* 11. Maxi
* 12. Pacheco(LOAN)
* 14. Henderson
* 16. Coates
* 18. Kuyt
* 19. Downing
* 20. Spearing
* 21. Lucas
* 22. D Wilson
* 23. Carragher
* 25. Reina
* 26. Adam
* 30. Suso
* 31. Sterling
* 32. Darby
* 33. Shelvey
* 34. Kelly
* 35. Coady
* 37. Skrtel
* 38. Flanagan
* 39. Bellamy
* 41. Hansen
* 42. Gulacsi
* 44. Mendy
* 46. Amoo
* 47. Wisdom
* 49. Robinson
* - Kohlert
* - Roberts
* - Sokolik

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2011-2012 Fixtures

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Premier League Scorer


Suarez - 3
Henderson - 1
Skrtel- 1
Adam - 1

Carling Cup Scorer


Suarez - 1
Carrol - 1
Maxi - 1
Bellamy- 1
Kuyt - 1

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post Aug 28 2011, 02:23 AM

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Summer Transfer


IN:

Jordan Henderson ---- £16m ---- Sunderland
Charlie Adam ---- £9m ---- Blackpool
Steward Downing ---- £20m ---- Aston Villa
Alexander Doni ---- FREE ---- Roma
Villyan Bijev-------Unknown------ Unknown
Jose Enrique -------- £5.5m ------- Newcastle
Craig Bellamy -------FREE------ Manchester City
Sebastián Coates ------Undisclosed------ Nacional

OUT:
Paul Konchesky---- £1.5m ---- Leicester City
Gerrardo Bruna ---- Undisclosed ---- Blackpool
Stephen Darby -------- loan ----------Rochdale
Chris Mavinga ---- £1m ---- Rennes
Peter Gulacsi -------- loan ----------Hull City
Tom Ince ------------- FREE ----------- Blackpool
Milan Jovanovic ------- FREE---------- Anderlecht
Daniel Ayala --------- £800,000--------- Norwich City
Nabil El Zhar ---------- RELEASED -----------------------
Villyan Bijev ------------ Loan ------------- Genk
Sotirios Kyrgiakos -------- undisclosed---------- Wolfsburg
Dani Pacheco --------------Loan----------------- A.Madrid
Alberto Aquilani ------------ Loan ---------------- AC Milan
Emiliano Insua-------------- Undisclosed --------- Sporting Lisbon
Joe Cole ------------ Loan ----------------Lille
Christian Poulsen ---------Undisclosed----------Evian
David N'Gog ---------------Undisclosed ---------- Bolton
Raul Meireles---------------£12m------------------Chelsea
Phillip Degen --------------- RELEASED---------------------------


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I wonder why carroll always play further back. He should always stay in penalty box. He should has score a goal when downing and enrique cross to him. Arghhh caragher!!!
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Impressed with our defensive work in midfield. I think almost all tackles are clean and on the ball. And we resisted late tackles or from behind.
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nice win cool2.gif

i think the referee from the last game is the worst ref ever in PL after Howard Webb
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clear backpass..penalty not given..haihhh
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QUOTE(farisq @ Aug 28 2011, 02:27 AM)
Impressed with our defensive work in midfield. I think almost all tackles are clean and on the ball. And we resisted late tackles or from behind.
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We all need a team of carraghers...NOT!
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 28 2011, 02:21 AM)
2011-2012 Fixtures

AUGUST:

13 - Sunderland (H) 1-1 Suarez
20 - Arsenal (A) 0-2 Own Goal, Suarez
24- Exeter(A) 0-3 Suarez, Maxi, Carrol
27 - Bolton Wanderers (H) 3-1 Henderson, Skrtel, Adam


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Premier League Scorer


Suarez - 2
Henderson - 1
Skrtel- 1
Adam - 1

Carling Cup Scorer


Suarez - 1
Carrol - 1
Maxi - 1
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UPDATED! biggrin.gif August, pretty good month for us, eh? biggrin.gif

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With that kind of performance for every match and we could win our 19th easily man, it was class!
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 28 2011, 02:20 AM)
  SQUAD NUMBER FOR 2011/2012 SEASON

  * 1. Jones
    * 2. Johnson
  * 3. Enrique
    * 4. Meireles
    * 5. Agger
    * 6. Aurelio
    * 7. Suarez
    * 8. Gerrard
    * 9. Carroll
    * 10. J Cole
    * 11. Maxi
  * 12. Pacheco
    * 14. Henderson
    * 18. Kuyt
    * 19. Downing
    * 20. Spearing
    * 21. Lucas
    * 22. D Wilson
    * 23. Carragher
    * 24. Ngog
    * 25. Reina
    * 26. Adam
    * 28. Poulsen
    * 30. Suso
    * 31. Sterling
    * 32. Darby
    * 33. Shelvey
    * 34. Kelly
    * 35. Coady
    * 37. Skrtel
    * 38. Flanagan
    * 39. Eccleston
    * 41. Hansen
    * 42. Gulacsi
    * 44. Mendy
    * 46. Amoo
    * 47. Wisdom
    * 49. Robinson
    * - Degen
    * - Kohlert
    * - Roberts
    * - Sokolik
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Hari Raya Gift.,....
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With that kind of performance for every match and we could win our 19th easily man, it was class!
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Yes it is if carroll not playing rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(EL Pistolero @ Aug 28 2011, 02:31 AM)
No more of him sir  sweat.gif
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Still ada, just loan out. Official site also listed him as #12 biggrin.gif
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Just got to love Reina notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Hope the international break doesn't break the momentum wink.gif
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and Downing should've scored to complete the new boys scoring accounts laugh.gif
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Downing voice reminds me of M Owen... Quite similar smile.gif
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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 28 2011, 02:35 AM)
Downing voice reminds me of M Owen... Quite similar smile.gif
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yeah mang but owen much more shorter laugh.gif
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yay! three points! hari raya gift. haha. and i saw Kwa-Tez there!
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Last season our 7th point was acquired only after the 9th game. tongue.gif
What a nightmare...
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QUOTE(blissandecstasy @ Aug 28 2011, 02:38 AM)
yay! three points! hari raya gift. haha. and i saw Kwa-Tez there!
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Coates? tongue.gif
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Come on guys, just enjoy the win and don't troll at others tread.
We liverpool fans are better than that.
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Linked again..no place for him at Barca...

http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/...a-winger-10334/
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This deepfish is seriously a pain in the ass. Constant complaining about the thread... then now troll in united thread? what's on his mind?
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This deepfish is seriously a pain in the ass. Constant complaining about the thread... then now troll in united thread? what's on his mind?
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Aug 28 2011, 02:43 AM)
Linked again..no place for him at Barca...

http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/...a-winger-10334/
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wow..i want i want! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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An incident while I watching match outside just now.

Got an uncle and auntie sit beside me when 2nd half started.

After Skrtel and Adam scored...

Uncle: I don't like Liverpool leh...
Auntie: I hate them also lah...
Uncle: Look. Suarez should play at better team. He surely can become top player.


Duh, uncle & auntie. You know I sit beside and wearing LFC jersey. Still want troll like that eh? How old both of you? doh.gif
No point to argue with them anyway.
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any highlight link guys?
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Aug 28 2011, 02:51 AM)
An incident while I watching match outside just now.

Got an uncle and auntie sit beside me when 2nd half started.

After Skrtel and Adam scored...

Uncle: I don't like Liverpool leh...
Auntie: I hate them also lah...
Uncle: Look. Suarez should play at better team. He surely can become top player.
Duh, uncle & auntie. You know I sit beside and wearing LFC jersey. Still want troll like that eh? How old both of you?  doh.gif
No point to argue with them anyway.
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typical sour-grape minded fans from the team you know who... biggrin.gif
thats what we want to see from liverpool... going all out for each and evry game and we shall see us stay at the top half of the table...
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post Aug 28 2011, 02:59 AM

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of the 3 games we played so far, this is the Best and there will be more to come thumbup.gif

suarez, downing, henderson , enrique and adam performed beautifully, so did skrtel and agger but not kuyt and carra
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Excellent game.This is pass and move groove babeh thumbup.gif

Sad news is kelly injured and no clean sheet.Anyway we are top of the table for one day biggrin.gif
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yeah. actually how to pronounce his name eh ? laugh.gif ko-ah-tez or coats ? but his father scottish!
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long time we din see this biggrin.gif

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i wonder gerrard could have a chance to play regularly when he comes back.. the team looks solid already
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QUOTE(blissandecstasy @ Aug 28 2011, 03:01 AM)
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yeah. actually how to pronounce his name eh ?  laugh.gif ko-ah-tez or coats ? but his father scottish!
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its pronounce as COATS


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yeah. actually how to pronounce his name eh ?  laugh.gif ko-ah-tez or coats ? but his father scottish!
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quite handsome but i think his body is free from tattoos.. another victim for skrtle and agger? laugh.gif
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yeah. actually how to pronounce his name eh ?  laugh.gif ko-ah-tez or coats ? but his father scottish!
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My fren pronounced it as "kote" =.= LOL
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Overall it was a pleasing performance, certainly not the best but better than the last match against Gunners. The back four has started to gel together , but in the end , i presume they were exhausted with the pace of the match and Bolton's consistent passing

It's good to see Henderson getting involved in the game in the 1st half, he was there driving the team in the middle of the park. Kuyt had a decent game, Suarez , as always, energetic, but decisions against him on many occasion has turned him off..he should have scored 2 goals at least and kill the game off.

Adam and Lucas did well on CDM role. Good to see Adam opens his account for the season. Salute to Skrtel, coming on for Kelly and scoring , what has to be the kill-off point.

Stoke next, and they are dangerous at Brittania. Hope KD names the in-form team once again.

Good win and happy weekend !
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Really happy with the performance of the game tonite. this is the best liverpool team in recent years. i really like the passing and move mentality. this is the method that liverpool so success in the 70's and 80's. i just love how king kenny celebrate.. laugh.gif


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We are drawn against brighton in the carling cup third round.They beat sunderland 1-0 in the previous round ohmy.gif
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We are drawn against brighton in the carling cup third round.They beat sunderland 1-0 in the previous round ohmy.gif
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since we have no european games... so just go all in and try to wi evrything available... flex.gif
suarez to start even it's carling cup!
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QUOTE(darth6 @ Aug 28 2011, 03:11 AM)
Start hoping that Arsenal & Spurs win tomorrow, so that this figure stays at least till the int break ends  thumbup.gif
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Fingers crossed, Spurs and Arsenal to do miracle later tonight.
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since we have no european games... so just go all in and try to wi evrything available...  flex.gif
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Agree.With gerrard,johnson and meireles returning plus coates signing i think we will win at least 1 trophy.of course the league is the hardest to win so i fancy the FA cup.
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Lets not start dreaming. One step at a time.. Take one game at one time... Win all then we start talking about adding numbers into our trophy cabinet
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 28 2011, 03:20 AM)
Lets not start dreaming. One step at a time.. Take one game at one time... Win all then we start talking about adding numbers into our trophy cabinet
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Aug 28 2011, 03:23 AM)
Don't fly too high. Just try the best to win every match and then later we count total point in the end of season. smile.gif
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It was a sizzling attacking display from us last night. It's the performance that concerns me , personally rather than count of points. Team is playing well and showing the winning characteristic and taking it into each game week in week out.

One notable thing in the game was the ref's decision. Someone correct me, was it a handball by Steinsson in the penalty box or outside the box?
A back pass wasn't cautioned and free kick was not awarded? On many occasion decision went against us..which shows immature decisions from Premship ref's. I guess the ref would want to award further punishment and trigger frustration of players?
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and one more notable is everytime when Caroll is in, the team could not execute the 'pass n move'' very well.....very worrying this one.... unsure.gif
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As long they keep playing like this (vs Bolton).

Win + Lose + Draw were not an issue.

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As long they keep playing like this (vs Bolton).

Win + Lose + Draw were not an issue.

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Another 3 points with better performance.
What a difference a year makes. Better start for this season.
Luis Suarez may not score but sure create problems for Bolton & chances for others to score. His vision, passing and ability to draw men away is awesome. Better than than 'ape nama striker yang baru pergi ke MU'? laugh.gif

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Looks like KD had tried few combination. But I still interested to know how we play w/o Surez. He need to plan out a combination w/o Surez, if not we might had some difficulity if he is off. I am looking forward with Gerrard coming back and Johson as well.
So far great performance. It is so so long time never see it happen and we did score goals as well.

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Aug 28 2011, 03:37 AM)
It was a sizzling attacking display from us last night. It's the performance that concerns me , personally rather than count of points. Team is playing well and showing the winning characteristic and taking it into each game week in week out.

One notable thing in the game was the ref's decision. Someone correct me, was it a handball by Steinsson in the penalty box or outside the box?
A back pass wasn't cautioned and free kick was not awarded? On many occasion decision went against us..which shows immature decisions from Premship ref's. I guess the ref would want to award further punishment and trigger frustration of players?
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the handball was outside the box..steinsson's hand was still outside the box eventho most of his body is already inside the box.. regarding the backpass maybe it was too fast for the officials to see it..we can see it clearly during slow mo video but not real time..

but those are the dramas in football i guess that make the game more entertaining smile.gif
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really really disapointed with our performance!...should be 6-1 not 3-1! cry.gif laugh.gif


MOTM is a tricky one...

1st half - Henderson was MOTM..score a goal & creates 2 glorious chances for Kuyt & Suarez who both missed it

2nd half - I tot Adam outshine Henderson..superb long range passing..score a good goal with his weaker foot..and an assist for Skrtel



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really really disapointed with our performance!...should be 6-1 not 3-1!  cry.gif laugh.gif
MOTM is a tricky one...

1st half - Henderson was MOTM..score a goal & creates 2 glorious chances for Kuyt & Suarez who both missed it

2nd half - I tot Adam outshine Henderson..superb long range passing..score a good goal with his weaker foot..and an assist for Skrtel
to those who quickly criticized Henderson & Adam whenever they played below expectation..just remember this name...LUCAS rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Aug 28 2011, 10:28 AM)
really really disapointed with our performance!...should be 6-1 not 3-1!  cry.gif laugh.gif
MOTM is a tricky one...

1st half - Henderson was MOTM..score a goal & creates 2 glorious chances for Kuyt & Suarez who both missed it

2nd half - I tot Adam outshine Henderson..superb long range passing..score a good goal with his weaker foot..and an assist for Skrtel
to those who quickly criticized Henderson & Adam whenever they played below expectation..just remember this name...LUCAS rolleyes.gif
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Lucas did well in defence, to intercept, to breakdown opponent attack fluency.

Ya, a bit disappointment with no getting clean sheet, and more goal.

Also a bit worry on Carroll, once Carroll into the frame, players start to play long ball again.
Carroll is more easy to be handled by opponent defence, movement too slow and not like Suarez can pop out anywhere which create problem for opponent defence.
Carroll always being tight marked.
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Positive: They're improving their work rate by every match.
Negative: Carroll in = Aggressive attack power suddenly gone. doh.gif

I not hating Carroll. I hope he can see and learn from yesterday match.
The different before he going in and after he going in. Would be glad there is another fast pace & hardworking striker come in.
Bellamy move already confirm eh?

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i think Henderson in 2nd half is better than Henderson 1st half,and Adam in 1st half is better than Adam in 2nd half  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4lZEOFBtyA
last night highlights.

btw. it weird and funny when Skrtel playing at RB replacing Kelly.. laugh.gif

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regarding the backpass, actually from the replay u can see dat suarez did touch the ball b4 keeper touch it.. so not consider backpass la, iirc


Added on August 28, 2011, 11:50 amkuyt suarez bellamy combo infront shud be deadly fast infront tongue.gif

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yeah , happy for Henderson , he played so well yesterday.

The next one to play well is Andy Carroll , hope he can improve his game.Support the team and keep the faith.
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As expected, I always feel this season might be the best season for Liverpool to get the crown. Many good bench player especially.

But anyway, I still think Liverpool too depend on Suarez. It's show clearly when Carroll sub in. The passing, movement and attacking fluidity seem lacking. Hopefully the manager could do something on this.
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WHAT A CROSS FROM SUAREZ TO DOWNING @@
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QUOTE(ayam001 @ Aug 28 2011, 11:48 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4lZEOFBtyA
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btw. it weird and funny when Skrtel playing at RB replacing Kelly.. laugh.gif
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Skrtel also was good in attacking in last night game smile.gif. if there is clean sheet surely Reina and Kenny More Happy smile.gif.. Good Game Overall. Pity Suarez. Ynwa
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The game has changed so much..like it or not, money does make a difference to a team's fortunes. I'm one of those who don't like it but I cannot argue that being able to buy players like Suarez, Downing, Adam, Henderson, Enrique and even Carroll has made a difference this season ... so far!

Nevertheless, having the money to spend is one thing, spending it is another and knowing how to spend (or invest) the money is critical.

Now KD has a large squad of above average to excellent players, with only 3 domestic tournaments to play in. It will be very interesting to see how he will use the squad.

Well, it doesn't look as if he is going to have 3 separate teams for each tournament, what with him starting Suarez even in the Carling cup. Indeed, it will be very interesting to see how he will juggle his team when Gerrard and Johnson are back, and if he acquires Coates and Bellamy as well ... wow!
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IF this team can compete until the final game of the season, it will trumped the team of 2007/08 under Rafa. The first half was superb pass & move football. The way Adam control the midfield was reminiscence of Alonso. Im glad our two new boys are on the scoresheet and im really more happy with how the team play, everyone seems to be smiling biggrin.gif
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Just want to say that Lucas was sensational. Yesterday's performance was the best I've seen from him. He's usually already giving top performance but yesterday he was particularly brilliant. The combination of him and Adam was reminiscent of the time when we had Masc and Alonso bossing the midfield. His positioning and movement was world class. He didn't need to slide in, he just kinda did it the Lucas way. He anticipated Bolton's movement like reading it off a book. In the first half, he was breaking down play like a patriot missile intercepting scuds. Zeroing in and clearing danger before it could even happen. At times, the bolton playres had 1 sec max to play the ball before Lucas came and took it way from them. Utter brilliant performance.
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a good performance as there was only one clear winner. the downside is of course the injury of kelly who seemed bright whenever he plays and the goal conceded, carra will be pissed of himself im sure. altho it was a good game, i still feel we should have killed off the game earlier with suarez guilty of missing the one-on-one and a num of decisions that look 50-50. some would've gone our way on another game. sad thing now is its international break !

p.s. i heard coates on spanish commentator as coa-tes. but english commentator as coats. so which ? lol
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at one time, im worry what happen when Lucas injured.. who will replace him? does our game will be the same?
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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 28 2011, 01:49 PM)
Just want to say that Lucas was sensational. Yesterday's performance was the best I've seen from him. He's usually already giving top performance but yesterday he was particularly brilliant. The combination of him and Adam was reminiscent of the time when we had Masc and Alonso bossing the midfield. His positioning and movement was world class. He didn't need to slide in, he just kinda did it the Lucas way. He anticipated Bolton's movement like reading it off a book. In the first half, he was breaking down play like a patriot missile intercepting scuds. Zeroing in and clearing danger before it could even happen. At times, the bolton playres had 1 sec max to play the ball before Lucas came and took it way from them. Utter brilliant performance.
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QUOTE(mkaz @ Aug 28 2011, 11:49 AM)
regarding the backpass, actually from the replay u can see dat suarez did touch the ball b4 keeper touch it.. so not consider backpass la, iirc


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bro look at the replay over n over again.. you'll notice that bolton's keeper caught the ball before suarez's feet touched it.. check it out again YNWA! flex.gif
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QUOTE(daryl23 @ Aug 28 2011, 02:11 PM)
a good performance as there was only one clear winner. the downside is of course the injury of kelly who seemed bright whenever he plays and the goal conceded, carra will be pissed of himself im sure. altho it was a good game, i still feel we should have killed off the game earlier with suarez guilty of missing the one-on-one and a num of decisions that look 50-50. some would've gone our way on another game. sad thing now is its international break !

p.s. i heard coates on spanish commentator as coa-tes. but english commentator as coats. so which ? lol
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Pretty sure Suarez is aiming for the golden boot this season, he was overly pissed off yesterday for not scoring, even when we were 3-0 leading. Too bad, he had the chance in that 1-1 and his chip was a bit over the crossbar. On the bright side, he will make sure his name will be in the scoring sheet next match! drool.gif
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Latest news has it that Bellamy prefer Spurs over us?
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Latest news has it that Bellamy prefer Spurs over us?

Dont think so, unless money talk...Bellamy is a liverpool fan! AS a back-up player, I am fine, but still wish Ngog will stay and given more chance to develop, always thot that Ngog is just a few improvement away from becoming a threat to defense

I tot charlie adam is superb, i rate him higher than alonso...notice alonso is so-so with short passing in the final third of the pitch, but this charlie here is more composed, and the fact that he can dribble into space for a shot on goal, makes him more threatening than alonso...still adam need to show consistency to be confirmed as world class

J. Henderson...altho not gerard when he broke into liverpool squad...but feel that he can develop into a complete midfielder in the mould of gerard, remember that he finished with his left foot for the goal..

Downing, must live with the huge price tag...but so far, a vry potent attacking threat...certainly this year we have 2-3 more penetrative attackers than last year!! During Roy H, we treat J Cole as savior, meirelles was unknown at the time and wasnt much of a threat, altho he weight in with goals later part of the season...but now we easily have Downing, Adam, Henderson, gerard soon to be back...and also wing backs look great with enrique and gln johnson marauding the flanks,,,attacking wise, i personally think we are well equipped this season

Must agree with the commentator, if we can get Andy Carrol to blend into the system, liverpool would be unplayable..i am guessing that becos we play with interchangeable system, you can see Kuyt, in left, right and centre..suarez upfront, on the flank and dropping deep to collect the ball, c.adam working the flank ...just feel that the giant Carrol will take a bit of time to work his way into the system..hope that KD can get carrol sorted soonest, becos he is one hell of a centreforward..still remember we play newcastle against him, we have 2-3 players marking him but still he scored!!


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QUOTE(daryl23 @ Aug 28 2011, 02:11 PM)
p.s. i heard coates on spanish commentator as coa-tes. but english commentator as coats. so which ? lol
They still haven't agreed on how to pronounce Kuyt.

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Lee Dixon? He was very critical of Steinsson's positioning which isn't a surprise as he is part of the legendary Arsenal back four and played in the very same position Steinsson does, rightback. First thing that came to mind was a young Michael Owen bursting past Dixon after a long pass from Paddy Berger to slot in our winning goal against Arsenal back in the FA Cup final of 2001.

Not much more to be said of this morning's game. It was clear that there was only ever going to be one winner but by how many goals? Watched the game in Movida with Flix and Jonno in a semi drunk state and lost count of the number of chances we had until I watched the repeat this afternoon. If you ask me, there was contact both times Suarez went down in the box. Also, it WAS a back pass and Jaaskelainen did get to the ball first.

Hmm what else?

- Charlie Adam has "Arjen Robben Syndrome". He looks 10 years older than he actually is.

- Weird to see Skrtel so far up the pitch. Thing is we played like a well oiled machine and I reckon we could have played Poulsen at rightback and still won.

- Suarez has amazing ability and movement. Not enough superlatives in the English language to describe him really.

- Both Henderson and Adam opened their accounts with their weaker foot.

- When Klasnic got their consolation goal, a grand total of 0 teammates congratulated him.

Here is something I found utterly annoying though. Did anyone watch Maxis Football Extra? There's a prick of a scum hosting it and he keeps making snide remarks like "Oooh Liverpool fans, it's still early days and come end of the season we'll win it again". "Oooppss I just blinked and missed it like Carragher". Eh WTF is your problem? You are hosting a TV programme and are paid to be a host and not a fan. Show some professionalism please. When we lose, we get stick, when we win, we also get stick. Here's another fact I digged up from the latest edition of FourFourTwo. Man Utd have 100 songs involving players, and out of that 25 are aimed at opposition players, the highest amongst all clubs. Seems to me that they believe making others look bad makes them look even better. Is it some coincidence that the scum host on Maxis Football Extra behaves in the same way?

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Aug 28 2011, 05:47 PM)
Latest news has it that Bellamy prefer Spurs over us?

Dont think so, unless money talk...Bellamy is a liverpool fan! AS a back-up player, I am fine, but still wish Ngog will stay and given more chance to develop, always thot that Ngog is just a few improvement away from becoming a threat to defense

I tot charlie adam is superb, i rate him higher than alonso...notice alonso is so-so with short passing in the final third of the pitch, but this charlie here is more composed, and the fact that he can dribble into space for a shot on goal, makes him more threatening than alonso...still adam need to show consistency to be confirmed as world class

J. Henderson...altho not gerard when he broke into liverpool squad...but feel that he can develop into a complete midfielder in the mould of gerard, remember that he finished with his left foot for the goal..

Downing, must live with the huge price tag...but so far, a vry potent attacking threat...certainly this year we have 2-3 more penetrative attackers than last year!! During Roy H, we treat J Cole as savior, meirelles was unknown at the time and wasnt much of a threat, altho he weight in with goals later part of the season...but now we easily have Downing, Adam, Henderson, gerard soon to be back...and also wing backs look great with enrique and gln johnson marauding the flanks,,,attacking wise, i personally think we are well equipped this season

Must agree with the commentator, if we can get Andy Carrol to blend into the system, liverpool would be unplayable..i am guessing that becos we play with interchangeable system, you can see Kuyt, in left, right and centre..suarez upfront, on the flank and dropping deep to collect the ball, c.adam working the flank ...just feel that the giant Carrol will take a bit of time to work his way into the system..hope that KD can get carrol sorted soonest, becos he is one hell of a centreforward..still remember we play newcastle against him, we have 2-3 players marking him but still he scored!!
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I tot charlie adam is superb, i rate him higher than alonso...
That is high praise indeed. Alonso arrived at Anfield at around the same age. Let's forget that Alonso is a regular with Real Madrid and Spain for awhile. I still rate Alonso at 24 higher than Adam.
I think his passes are more consistent over the course of a game and he's a better defensive player than most people make him out to be. One season, he led the league in tackles made. You won't see him running across the park like Mascherano to make challenges. He's more like Didi Hamann an uses his positional sense to make up for it. Look at what a difference his departure made, amidst other reasons of course. We went from almost winning the league to struggling for a European spot.

I do hope that over time, Adam does fill those rather huge shoes left behind by Alonso but after just 3 Premiere League games, only a bold man would come to the conclusion that he can.
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IF this team can compete until the final game of the season, it will trumped the team of 2007/08 under Rafa. The first half was superb pass & move football. The way Adam control the midfield was reminiscence of Alonso. Im glad our two new boys are on the scoresheet and im really more happy with how the team play, everyone seems to be smiling biggrin.gif
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Here is something I found utterly annoying though. Did anyone watch Maxis Football Extra? There's a prick of a scum hosting it and he keeps making snide remarks like  "Oooh Liverpool fans, it's still early days and come end of the season we'll win it again". "Oooppss I just blinked and missed it like Carragher". Eh WTF is your problem? You are hosting a TV programme and are paid to be a host and not a fan. Show some professionalism please. When we lose, we get stick, when we win, we also get stick. Here's another fact I digged up from the latest edition of FourFourTwo. Man Utd have 100 songs involving players, and out of that 25 are aimed at opposition players, the highest amongst all clubs. Seems to me that they believe making others look bad makes them look even better. Is it some coincidence that the scum host on Maxis Football Extra behaves in the same way?
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Mate, you expected professionalism from a brownie point hunting scum? I don't blame him, he was borned jealous of LFC but I rather blame his producers because if they allowed this kinda of a scum remark, then they are to be held fully accountable. But then again that show is crap ever since Jamie Yeo left. Now they included some scum juice on a crap show means you can now definitely flush it down the sewer, where both of it belongs blush.gif
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Mate, you expected professionalism from a brownie point hunting scum? I don't blame him, he was borned jealous of LFC but I rather blame his producers because if they allowed this kinda of a scum remark, then they are to be held fully accountable. But then again that show is crap ever since Jamie Yeo left. Now they included some scum juice on a crap show means you can now definitely flush it down the sewer, where both of it belongs  blush.gif
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Oath and Jamie Yeo was onz bra. She's nice as well hey. Met her in SOMO once during a Tiger event. She looks as good in person as she does on TV wub.gif


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 28 2011, 07:59 PM)
Oath and Jamie Yeo was onz bra. She's nice as well hey. Met her in SOMO once during a Tiger event. She looks as good in person as she does on TV  wub.gif
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QUOTE(ayam001 @ Aug 28 2011, 11:48 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4lZEOFBtyA
last night highlights.

btw. it weird and funny when Skrtel playing at RB replacing Kelly.. laugh.gif
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I was so impressed with skrtel playing right back whether defensively or attack wise that i voted him our MOTM on lfc site biggrin.gif

Kelly is very good defensively while johnson is good offensively but skrtel is boss at both.Skrtel for right back!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 28 2011, 07:59 PM)
Oath and Jamie Yeo was onz bra. She's nice as well hey. Met her in SOMO once during a Tiger event. She looks as good in person as she does on TV  wub.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 28 2011, 06:27 PM)
That is high praise indeed. Alonso arrived at Anfield at around the same age. Let's forget that Alonso is a regular with Real Madrid and Spain for awhile. I still rate Alonso at 24 higher than Adam.
I think his passes are more consistent over the course of a game and he's a better defensive player than most people make him out to be. One season, he led the league in tackles made. You won't see him running across the park like Mascherano to make challenges. He's more like Didi Hamann an uses his positional sense to make up for it. Look at what a difference his departure made, amidst other reasons of course. We went from almost winning the league to struggling for a European spot.

I do hope that over time, Adam does fill those rather huge shoes left behind by Alonso but after just 3 Premiere League games, only a bold man would come to the conclusion that he can.
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but alonso good when he attempt tackle but opponet will get the red card.. i loled..
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 28 2011, 08:10 PM)
I was so impressed with skrtel playing right back whether defensively or attack wise that i voted him our MOTM on lfc site biggrin.gif

Kelly is very good defensively while johnson is good offensively but skrtel is boss at both.Skrtel for right back!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 28 2011, 08:10 PM)
I was so impressed with skrtel playing right back whether defensively or attack wise that i voted him our MOTM on lfc site biggrin.gif

Kelly is very good defensively while johnson is good offensively but skrtel is boss at both.Skrtel for right back!!! rclxms.gif
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I rmb one moment where he gets into Bolton's penalty box and make them feel nervous biggrin.gif
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try comparing him playing RB under roy era biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Aug 28 2011, 08:11 PM)
Espn is all going downhill already eversince theres no andy on football crazy. I just can't believe with tv channel like that failing epicly on so many levels.
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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Aug 28 2011, 08:12 PM)
but alonso good when he attempt tackle but opponet will get the red card.. i loled..
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I remember that. He got 3 or so people sent off if memory serves me.
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Duke,i have to admit lucas was really impressive yesterday.He was boss at midfield yesterday.I think he has finally recovered well from copa america fatigue. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 28 2011, 09:03 PM)
Duke,i have to admit lucas was really impressive yesterday.He was boss at midfield yesterday.I think he has finally recovered well from copa america fatigue. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 28 2011, 09:03 PM)
Duke,i have to admit lucas was really impressive yesterday.He was boss at midfield yesterday.I think he has finally recovered well from copa america fatigue. notworthy.gif
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He has come in leaps and bounds. Took a really long time to settle into his current role having played a more attacking role while at Gremio. He isn't the biggest or toughest of lads but he is determined. There was a time he couldn't pass 5 yards. These days he goes about doing his job quietly while more illustrious teammates like Suarez and Gerrard take the plaudits. Cleaning up behind often goes unnoticed unfortunately. I'm sure glad I was wrong about him.
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watching how man city destroy tottenham and how their players interchange position with dzeko as targetman.Liverpool looks like a cheaper version of them.lol
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anyone watching Mancity - spurs match ? Dzeko is taller than Carroll by 2 cm but Carroll seems much slow than Dzeko..I think Andy is train more on strength than agile
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 28 2011, 09:54 PM)
watching how man city destroy tottenham and how their players interchange position with dzeko as targetman.Liverpool looks like a cheaper version of them.lol
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this is a liverpool forum.. so Man City is a less financially planned team when compared to Liverpool.. brows.gif
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I lurked around MU thread and they are saying that BPL is turning into La Liga with only two forces competing,both manchester teams and saying that they are a big force in europe..i lol'd hard,they forgot about CL final last season ey?


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dun lurk much there la...they even bash their own fans ...whole thread full of sarcasm ..dunno which one is true or false..jinx la ,cannot make prediction la ..but if u want to get some entertainment can read from there but dont quote anything to here =)
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 28 2011, 09:55 PM)
anyone watching Mancity - spurs match ? Dzeko is taller than Carroll by 2 cm but Carroll seems much slow than Dzeko..I think Andy is train more on strength than agile
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 28 2011, 10:15 PM)
dzeko was also poor last season...and he was alr an established star.while carroll still young.give andy time... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 28 2011, 09:55 PM)
anyone watching Mancity - spurs match ? Dzeko is taller than Carroll by 2 cm but Carroll seems much slow than Dzeko..I think Andy is train more on strength than agile
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Less than few minutes now before we are off the top of the table.But i m very happy that spurs are getting trashed big time.I hate them the most second after you know who. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 28 2011, 10:08 PM)
dun lurk much there la...they even bash their own fans ...whole thread full of sarcasm ..dunno which one is true or false..jinx la ,cannot make prediction la ..but if u want to get some entertainment can read from there but dont quote anything to here =)
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What's bugging me is that they can come up with such ridiculous statements and other fans agreeing to it,heck they even add more and more ridiculous statements.

big force in europe? really? after 3 matches? we've done it 5 times, more than both of their CL win added together and even we don't make such arrogant statements mad.gif



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QUOTE(darth6 @ Aug 28 2011, 10:22 PM)
What's bugging me is that they can come up with such ridiculous statements and other fans agreeing to it,heck they even add more and more ridiculous statements.

big force in europe? really? after 3 matches? we've done it 5 times, more than both of their CL win added together and even we don't make such arrogant statements  mad.gif


Added on August 28, 2011, 10:22 pm

What's bugging me is that they can come up with such ridiculous statements and other fans agreeing to it,heck they even add more and more ridiculous statements.

big force in europe? really? after 3 matches? we've done it 5 times, more than both of their CL win added together and even we don't make such arrogant statements  mad.gif
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Actually they are a big force in europe.Reaching the final 3times in 4years is no easy matter.They will reach the final again this season if they dont meet madrid and barca en route.The only good news for us is that barca and madrid are a league above them.So they are not gonna win it anytime soon wink.gif

anyway can we stop talking about the mancs,it will only prove that we are obssessed about them.i thought they were the ones obssessed about us.If we keep talking about them it will only prove what one of them said in their thread earlier.

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just go to their thread to look for info only, dont care what they say if not really offended. We here got a lot of things to discuss about Liverpool. From player to management to fans.
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Sorry lads :/
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what is he doing there ?The only quality player that I dont mind to bring in is RVP to our team and partner with Kuyt =P
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its not old owners or new owners...

it's a manager that is too stubborn in his own mindset.
he said he didn't need to buy. he thought he could guarantee player loyalty, that is the worst mistake a modern manager can make.

so yes i pity Arsenal but not in regards of their ownership sad.gif
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pity arsenal team , we could end up the same if we still stick with old owner =(
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ya, am following their thread too.

The Arsenal now seems like the shadow of last year's Liverpool.
Pity them. But this is the time to test that whether you are truly a faithful. Whether rain or shine, you'll stick to the team.
God bless on them. Bash those m*thaf*cker! vmad.gif
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Wow, i really pity arsenal but Man U's team is solid i have to say. Both the Manchester teams are to be reckoned this season.
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They're having a goal fest over at OT. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 12:32 AM)
ya, am following their thread too.

The Arsenal now seems like the shadow of last year's Liverpool.
Pity them. But this is the time to test that whether you are truly a faithful. Whether rain or shine, you'll stick to the team.
God bless on them. Bash those m*thaf*cker!  vmad.gif
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Aug 29 2011, 12:33 AM)
Wow, i really pity arsenal but Man U's team is solid i have to say. Both the Manchester teams are to be reckoned this season.
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Aug 28 2011, 07:56 PM)
Mate, you expected professionalism from a brownie point hunting scum? I don't blame him, he was borned jealous of LFC but I rather blame his producers because if they allowed this kinda of a scum remark, then they are to be held fully accountable. But then again that show is crap ever since Jamie Yeo left. Now they included some scum juice on a crap show means you can now definitely flush it down the sewer, where both of it belongs  blush.gif
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Chelsea? Don't forget they got new manager, new playing style.
I would rather see them against us. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 29 2011, 12:39 AM)
I dont want to expect so much from our team although the fact we beat them 4-1 at old trafford few seasons ago.We are not there yet IMO..we have the quality but we need more time to reach standard like Barca team, I mean their teamplay
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+1.
Yesterday's play was promising. Hope that the team can gel more.

But what I've noticed is that KK prefer to deploy either Suarez or Carrol.
If Suarez is on, then all will play low passes and run.
If Carrol is the focus, then all the crosses will come in from Enrique, Downing, Kelly, etc.

I'd like to see more of Suarez kinda play than Carrol kinda play.


Added on August 29, 2011, 12:47 amArsenal is in total disaster currently. :facepalm:

The back 4 really cannot use. rclxub.gif

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I feel pity for sorry Arsenal. They can't seem to up to pace with United. It's time up for AW.

Hope they will bounce back in the next few games. United looking dangerous with couple of new additions.

I'm just waiting for October 15th..
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Aug 29 2011, 12:48 AM)
I feel pity for sorry Arsenal. They can't seem to up to pace with United. It's time up for AW.

Hope they will bounce back in the next few games. United looking dangerous with couple of new additions.

I'm just waiting for October 15th..
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Me too feel sorry for them.
But it is definitely not time up for AW, he worked miracles and because of the departures of 2 main men, Arsenal still can't adapt and a bit sceptical with their future, which is similar to last season's Liverpool.

I really don't think MU is that good, biasness aside.
Just that now Arsenal is in chaos, and so happens that MU team has been playing together for so long and little changes been done on the team.
So fluidity vs skepticism, and this is what the result.

Looking forward to the meet up between Liverpool & MU.
Should be very very interesting to watch.
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No big teams should fall like that. Its sad to see the scoreline. Hope arsenal dont keep on falling and start to get back up after this game.
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United scored 8 past Arsenal. What a bizarre!
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not to butt in and cause chaos. but this situation in arsenal is called mentally destroyed. when you guys had so much problems with owners and all still didnt go down like this.

arsene left the rot to build up. he left impression to his players that he could not be bothered to win cups. so thats the difference wink.gif
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Even lower teams would not go to OT and lost until that kinda scoreline.

It's proven to be the mentality problem.


Added on August 29, 2011, 12:59 amoh, and yea, I'd expect the media to praise MU until sky high and less on Arsenal's chaos. smile.gif

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The other team i do deeply feel sorry would be Spurs. They were impressive in the first few games last season. Are they having an internal chaos as well?

I just feel that Harry were over confident with last year's performance..
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I can only emphatize with Arsenal's condition, since we at Liverpool F.C suffered worst. Last season was the the straw of revolution, and we're seeing a similar thing in Arsenal's thread where supporters are having infighting.

Remember, they were piped once to be winners of the BPL last season only to have them to lose it right under their noses.

But if Arsenal wins the BPL in any years to come, the very same people that condemmned them will bite their own tongues, because of their own words.

What happened with Arsenal was not just a circumstances of "i won't buy but rely on youth talents please" kind of a thing. Look into the big picture. The commercialization of Arsenal has done its biggest harm to the Arsenal core.

Its just the same thing when we have lalang supporters after Istanbul. (of course if you ask me i'll rather 'salvage' as many lalangs into staunch, educated, 'real' supporters but that's another story) so I guess its just their downturn.

its best we do not disturb them in their time of low. I would rather have a Liverpool team in top condition beat Arsenal in their top condition. Nothing less.
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the positive for Arsenal is they will know who are the true fans while mu will get more and more gloryhunters fans
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the positive for Arsenal is they will know who are the true fans while mu will get more and more gloryhunters fans
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lol ... what a rubbish ... go check in arsenal thread ... and don't say as if liverpool doesnt have glory hunters fans ...
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In the mean time, ppl here should refrain from going into Arsenal thread and post any kinda post be it comforting or condemning. We should let them settle down by themselves and should not create any topic for them to fight on.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 29 2011, 01:01 AM)
I can only emphatize with Arsenal's condition, since we at Liverpool F.C suffered worst. Last season was the the straw of revolution, and we're seeing a similar thing in Arsenal's thread where supporters are having infighting.

Remember, they were piped once to be winners of the BPL last season only to have them to lose it right under their noses.

But if Arsenal wins the BPL in any years to come, the very same people that condemmned them will bite their own tongues, because of their own words.

What happened with Arsenal was not just a circumstances of "i won't buy but rely on youth talents please" kind of a thing. Look into the big picture. The commercialization of Arsenal has done its biggest harm to the Arsenal core.

Its just the same thing when we have lalang supporters after Istanbul. (of course if you ask me i'll rather 'salvage' as many lalangs into staunch, educated, 'real' supporters but that's another story) so I guess its just their downturn.

its best we do not disturb them in their time of low. I would rather have a Liverpool team in top condition beat Arsenal in their top condition. Nothing less.
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QUOTE(Ken @ Aug 29 2011, 01:04 AM)
lol ... what a rubbish ... go check in arsenal thread ... and don't say as if liverpool doesnt have glory hunters fans ...
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I think you misunderstood what he was trying to say.
This is the time to test the Arsenal fans whether they are genuine ones to keep on supporting whether it rains or shines in the Emirates.

Also, not much of a glory to hunt in Liverpool these days don't you think? Even more after last year's disaster.
But I would know where holds the most glory hunter fans. laugh.gif
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the thing with us so far... hopefully in the coming future is to not go into other team's thread even when their down. offer support yes. but stomp on them no.

I can't talk much about the other teams fans but let it be that at least we here aren't that farked up.

the capitulation of Arsenal is another rough patch for them. they are a great team with great history. i am sure they will be back. My dad must be heartbroken today but then again a supporter of more than 45 years is not so easily shaken. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Aug 29 2011, 01:04 AM)
lol ... what a rubbish ... go check in arsenal thread ... and don't say as if liverpool doesnt have glory hunters fans ...
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haha , I didnt state that based from this forum..that is from my facebook , most of my frens that dont even know how to spell 'roney' are supporting mu...so what rubbish you want now? I am speaking the fact , and I am suprise we have glory hunters fans since the last trophy we won is FA cup back in 2006
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QUOTE(Ken @ Aug 29 2011, 01:04 AM)
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Aug 29 2011, 01:08 AM)
the thing with us so far... hopefully in the coming future is to not go into other team's thread even when their down. offer support yes. but stomp on them no.

I can't talk much about the other teams fans but let it be that at least we here aren't that farked up.

the capitulation of Arsenal is another rough patch for them. they are a great team with great history. i am sure they will be back. My dad must be heartbroken today but then again a supporter of more than 45 years is not so easily shaken. smile.gif
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support this , +++1 , please to all liverpool fans , dont go troll in their thread
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 29 2011, 01:13 AM)
haha , I didnt state that based from this forum..that is from my facebook , most of my frens that dont even know how to spell 'roney' are supporting mu...so what rubbish you want now? I am speaking the fact , and I am suprise we have glory hunters fans since the last trophy we won is FA cup back in 2006
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leaF, please stop posting in Arsenal thread anymore.
Don't create any possible topic for them to fight on, even if it is encouraging posts.
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:16 AM)
leaF, please stop posting in Arsenal thread anymore.
Don't create any possible topic for them to fight on, even if it is encouraging posts.
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alright cheez , I think we should leave them alone for a while
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alright cheez , I think we should leave them alone for a while
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hahaha you really nice but don't bother with it. Arsenal thread has become ridiculous for months. It is like one of kopitiam sub forum. I miss those long and thoughtful post by some of old timers there. Some of them hasn't posted much maybe because they feel annoyed by some group of fans.
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I wonder why there are so many brainless you-know-who fans who still posts and rubs salt into ppl' wound.

Does that make them any greater? shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Aug 29 2011, 01:21 AM)
hahaha you really nice but don't bother with it. Arsenal thread has become ridiculous for months. It is like one of kopitiam sub forum. I miss those long and thoughtful post by some of old timers there. Some of them hasn't posted much maybe because they feel annoyed by some group of fans.
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When there are glories to hunt, surely there will be trolls.
So in a way, it means that Arsenal has the charm to attract them. (No offense)

If Liverpool are to have glories offered, there will also be switched side fans.

There's nothing much we can control, so just live with it. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Aug 29 2011, 01:21 AM)
hahaha you really nice but don't bother with it. Arsenal thread has become ridiculous for months. It is like one of kopitiam sub forum. I miss those long and thoughtful post by some of old timers there. Some of them hasn't posted much maybe because they feel annoyed by some group of fans.
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yeah , you are right but I think the old timers should stay at the thread and teach the new fans more about the club.I learn alot from seniors here =)

QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:22 AM)
I wonder why there are so many brainless you-know-who fans who still posts and rubs salt into ppl' wound.

Does that make them any greater? shakehead.gif
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they got a great back up in behind , and this is their tradition to trolls at other pages . you try to troll at their pages and u get perma-ban
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leaF, please stop posting in Arsenal thread anymore.
Don't create any possible topic for them to fight on, even if it is encouraging posts.

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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 29 2011, 01:26 AM)
yeah , you are right but I think the old timers should stay at the thread and teach the new fans more about the club.I learn alot from seniors here =)
they got a great back up in behind , and this is their tradition to trolls at other pages . you try to troll at their pages and u get perma-ban
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Aug 29 2011, 01:28 AM)

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Aug 29 2011, 01:28 AM)

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Pity arsenal,But lets not interfere in their affairs.After all we might get a CL spot instead of them.

We should be grateful that we are in the top 3 and not be disrespectful towards other clubs including united.
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Pity arsenal,But lets not interfere in their affairs.After all we might get a CL spot instead of them.

We should be grateful that we are in the top 3 and not be disrespectful towards other clubs including united.
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guys, any news on the signing of Coates and Bellamy? The transfer window is going to close in 3 days! Let's make this deal done! And rummors stating that King Kenny is trying to sign Barca winger, Affelay! XD
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 29 2011, 01:32 AM)
Pity arsenal,But lets not interfere in their affairs.After all we might get a CL spot instead of them.

We should be grateful that we are in the top 3 and not be disrespectful towards other clubs including united.
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still early to judge. but anyway hope we can keep with our performance
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i miss solstice T.T

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anyways.. damn 6gd in 1 game for man u.. gonna be tough for us to beat

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:36 AM)
i miss solstice T.T

*oh crap didnt realise he posted ytd lololol..

anyways.. damn 6gd in 1 game for man u.. gonna be tough for us to beat
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:35 AM)
Respect to all the clubs around the world for their success to make it to who they are today. nod.gif and yes, including MU & MC. just that not to some of the fans of some of the clubs. tongue.gif

note: i do mean clubS. plural
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same here , respects only given to their clubs , not to some of their fans =)
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:35 AM)
guys, any news on the signing of Coates and Bellamy? The transfer window is going to close in 3 days! Let's make this deal done! And rummors stating that King Kenny is trying to sign Barca winger, Affelay! XD
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Coates was spotted on the stands yesterday during the game.
So expect an announcement in these two days. nod.gif

As for bellamy, i'm on the neutral side.
As for winger, they have enough midfielder already! Get some defenders will ya?
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:35 AM)
guys, any news on the signing of Coates and Bellamy? The transfer window is going to close in 3 days! Let's make this deal done! And rummors stating that King Kenny is trying to sign Barca winger, Affelay! XD
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who u want more, Coates or Bellamy?

I choose Bellamy tongue.gif
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what is our director DC doing at OT btw?
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:36 AM)
i miss solstice T.T

*oh crap didnt realise he posted ytd lololol..

anyways.. damn 6gd in 1 game for man u.. gonna be tough for us to beat
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now now, the game is very wide open and it is any1's to take before the game.
don't be too grey. wink.gif

have faith. nod.gif
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QUOTE(terriez @ Aug 29 2011, 12:58 AM)
dear arsene wenger,

Hi. you need DM? we have poulsen! you need attacking midfielder? we have joe cole! you want both we give you discount!

Sincerely,
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I will give them out free....
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:40 AM)
what is our director DC doing at OT btw?
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Maybe looking for players to buy?
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also predicting that either mu or mc are gonna win the league at this stage is naive.I remember chelsea winning a game 5-1 last season and everybody said they are gonna walk away with the league by january.We'll have a clearer picture in december then we can start placing our bets.
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who u want more, Coates or Bellamy?

I choose Bellamy  tongue.gif
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Coates purposely come from uruguay , then u choose bellamy tongue.gif

QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 29 2011, 01:42 AM)
also predicting that either mu or mc are gonna win the league at this stage is naive.I remember chelsea winning a game 5-1 last season and everybody said they are gonna walk away with the league by january.We'll have a clearer picture in december then we can start placing our bets.
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guys , the troll viruses are effecting us as well , please wear your ignore mask

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:40 AM)
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wow, alot of you guys are still wide awake at this hour of the day.

seems like every1's on holiday tmr. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:41 AM)
Maybe looking for players to buy?
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Buying who? Arshavin? Hahaha.

QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 29 2011, 01:44 AM)
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laugh.gif Scouting him so that we can bribe? tongue.gif
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at their own thread calling us with so many names...dunno who so hypocrites .
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:46 AM)
Buying who? Arshavin? Hahaha.

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But he might be going there to discuss about selling players? tongue.gif


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haha ,come here sup here sup there .

at their own thread calling us with so many names...dunno who so hypocrites .
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What sup here sup there?

What name? I can't get what you mean. icon_question.gif
Am i missing something here? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:49 AM)
Don't know, but surely if we buy any Arsenal players right now, the fans would hate Liverpool.  sweat.gif

But he might be going there to discuss about selling players? tongue.gif
Oh ya, sols, i see that your Fernando Torres siggy still on. Still keeping it?
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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 01:49 AM)
Don't know, but surely if we buy any Arsenal players right now, the fans would hate Liverpool.  sweat.gif

But he might be going there to discuss about selling players? tongue.gif
Oh ya, sols, i see that your Fernando Torres siggy still on. Still keeping it?
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Yea... They gonna hate us for raiding them..Just like

Sunderland (hendo)
Newcastle (Jose+Carrol)
Blackpool (adam)
Villa (Downing)

hate us....

Yeap, i m still keeping that siggy. He remains my favourite player albeit with a little damage to the impression on how he left us. Grateful for what he did for us though.... smile.gif


P.S: Anyone can come up with a LUIS SUAREZ/ LUCAS LEIVA siggy for me? biggrin.gif laugh.gif

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icon_rolleyes.gif to you. unlike some hypocrites.
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If you see my posts,although i hate your team i have complimented your team when it's due.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:52 AM)
Yea... They gonna hate us for raiding them..Just like

Sunderland (hendo)
Newcastle (Jose+Carrol)
Blackpool (adam)
Villa (Downing)

hate us....

Yeap, i m still keeping that siggy. He remains my favourite player albeit with a little damage to the impression on how he left us. Grateful for what he did for us though....  smile.gif
P.S: Anyone can come up with a LUIS SUAREZ/ LUCAS LEIVA siggy for me?  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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lol... maybe u can ask Duke to make 1 for u, since he is fond of lucas also. tongue.gif

As for suarez, i think alot of ppl will start making versions of their own pretty soon. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:52 AM)
Yea... They gonna hate us for raiding them..Just like

Sunderland (hendo)
Newcastle (Jose+Carrol)
Blackpool (adam)
Villa (Downing)

hate us....

Yeap, i m still keeping that siggy. He remains my favourite player albeit with a little damage to the impression on how he left us. Grateful for what he did for us though....  smile.gif
P.S: Anyone can come up with a LUIS SUAREZ/ LUCAS LEIVA siggy for me?  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 29 2011, 01:54 AM)
as long there is no name calling and insults then we are open for debate with anyone.

If you see my posts,although i hate your team i have complimented your team when it's due.
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Well i dont hate any team. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 29 2011, 01:51 AM)
arshavin once said he was amazed with the support from liverpool supporters in Anfield but I prefer we get back benayoun, I think he will much suitable to play our pass and move style now
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I think we need a proper traditional right winger. Arshavin and Benny are both players that cut inside from flanks. Not to say that they are ineffective but we need someone who can deliver crosses from the right.

Notice anything about our current team? Our team left flank has gone from the weakest area to the strongest area. The addition of Enrique and Downing has certainly make it one of the most potent weapon we have in our arsenal. Downing bombing forward with great positioning sense and appear on time to help out defense. Enrique, attacking but doing a great job at defense simultaneously. More importantly, both deliver delicious crosses from left. It has gone from weakest area to strongest area.I do think we can further improve our right flank especially when Hendo, Kuyt and even Maxi are not the traditional type of winger that deliver crosses.... We need someone on the right to deliver more crosses, someone with pace to beat the defenders....
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:57 AM)
I think we need a proper traditional right winger. Arshavin and Benny are both players that cut inside from flanks. Not to say that they are ineffective but we need someone who can deliver crosses from the right.

Notice anything about our current team? Our team left flank has gone from the weakest area to the strongest area. The addition of Enrique and Downing has certainly make it one of the most potent weapon we have in our arsenal. Downing bombing forward with great positioning sense and appear on time to help out defense. Enrique, attacking but doing a great job at defense simultaneously. More importantly, both deliver delicious crosses from left. It has gone from weakest area to strongest area.I do think we can further improve our right flank especially when Hendo, Kuyt and even Maxi are not the traditional type of winger that deliver crosses.... We need someone on the right to deliver more crosses, someone with pace to beat the defenders....
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+1.
the left side more enjoyable to watch recently.

As for right wing, i personally feel that our midfield is too crowded and any extra addition would be too much.
I'd prefer pass and move kinda play with occasional crosses which is currently being played when Suarez is the target man.

I might be wrong. Always open to comments. nod.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:57 AM)
I think we need a proper traditional right winger. Arshavin and Benny are both players that cut inside from flanks. Not to say that they are ineffective but we need someone who can deliver crosses from the right.

Notice anything about our current team? Our team left flank has gone from the weakest area to the strongest area. The addition of Enrique and Downing has certainly make it one of the most potent weapon we have in our arsenal. Downing bombing forward with great positioning sense and appear on time to help out defense. Enrique, attacking but doing a great job at defense simultaneously. More importantly, both deliver delicious crosses from left. It has gone from weakest area to strongest area.I do think we can further improve our right flank especially when Hendo, Kuyt and even Maxi are not the traditional type of winger that deliver crosses.... We need someone on the right to deliver more crosses, someone with pace to beat the defenders....
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i think suarez can do that and when johnson is back he will be very useful.What i m slightly worried is conceding cheap goals very late like yesterday and mu last season.Reina was very angry as it cost him clean sheet and possibly golden gloves.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:57 AM)
I think we need a proper traditional right winger. Arshavin and Benny are both players that cut inside from flanks. Not to say that they are ineffective but we need someone who can deliver crosses from the right.

Notice anything about our current team? Our team left flank has gone from the weakest area to the strongest area. The addition of Enrique and Downing has certainly make it one of the most potent weapon we have in our arsenal. Downing bombing forward with great positioning sense and appear on time to help out defense. Enrique, attacking but doing a great job at defense simultaneously. More importantly, both deliver delicious crosses from left. It has gone from weakest area to strongest area.I do think we can further improve our right flank especially when Hendo, Kuyt and even Maxi are not the traditional type of winger that deliver crosses.... We need someone on the right to deliver more crosses, someone with pace to beat the defenders....
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a right foot winger is not that hard to find compare to left foot winger. The thing is we are not really desperate on that position where I can see Maxi , Raul , Kuyt , Suarez , Hendo can fill in that roles at anytime . If you guys notice , Downing is not really good in getting pass the opponent player, playing tricks . Hope we can get someone with quality like Afellay which I think is very good in doing all those tricks skills.
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 29 2011, 02:06 AM)
a right foot winger is not that hard to find compare to left foot winger. The thing is we are not really desperate on that position where I can see Maxi , Raul , Kuyt , Suarez , Hendo can fill in that roles at anytime . If you guys notice , Downing is not really good in getting pass the opponent player, playing tricks . Hope we can get someone with quality like Afellay which I think is very good in doing all those tricks skills.
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Dude,he does this very well! What he lacks is the final product when most of his shot off target.
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Dude,he does this very well! What he lacks is the final product when most of his shot off target.
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im not sure whether all of u see this or not. but what SKY Journalist said yesterday caught my attention.

LFC need Suarez to score. Realistically, it is only a matter of time hard teams injures Suarez. Not being negative, but being cautious.

Andy proved to everybody in Newcastle's shirt, but yet to prove in Ours.

Ill take Bellamy for a clinical finisher for sure despite his dicipline and attitude as backup..

right winger? well, rilex, our captain is on his way back. Glenno is coming back too. gonna be a good width with em. Stevie can focus on the flank while adam/lucas/hendo/raul takes his place..

well, maybe we can stick Kelly at right back and changes glenno to as a winger.. but it wont be as natural as a true winger..

well, in kenny we trust.

YNWA lads.
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Just refrain from entering any other FC threads. Stay away. We may mean well but you cannot say for the same for them, as in how they perceive things.


In any case, I would bring up the case with the Adam+Lucas pairing and how things may work out.

Now, we all may be able to agree that Lucas is one of those players that bleeds Liverpool red, inside out and plays his heart, whether the team is playing exceptionally well or in its dire low (touchwood).

There are key points in making the pass-and-move groove to the liverpool football tune and that is that one role of Lucas as a DM as the 'conductor' to the orchestra.

Before I begin I was lead to reading a certain article by a certain GREMIO FC supporter in RAWK forums, which after further reading and assessment of the 'theory', here I produce my thoughts in Lucas's "conductor" role.

When our previous gaffer Rafa Benitez brought Lucas Leiva from Gremio, we all can possibly agree to an established fact that is that Lucas was one of Gremio's and Brazil's most promising talent in the AM category, and the one thing that makes Lucas very outstanding in Gremio was that he had the ideal positioning brain and the 'innate knowledge' of "WHO to pass" (not how to pass) and ability to make full use of his hold-the-ball skills. However, one thing that baffled a whole lot of fans and supporters is that how on earth he ended up being a DM instead of an AM and the 'disastrous' baptism-by-fire in which the earlier seasons he had with us, he had all the stick from fans and supporters. Still, Rafa being a master tactician (given if the players are playing exactly to his ever-tight-grip orchestra-on-the-field) had one idea in mind that perhaps I dare say King Kenny got it right, and something in line with the pass-and-move is the possessive play that was the main 'theme' in the 4-2-4 of the 1970s Brazil.

Irregardless of how things work before for Brazil in 1970s and how things are supposed to work for Liverpool, one thing that I was made to realize was the post that introduced the idea of a "control tower" DM that the current Brazilian team plays with Lucas at the core of the entire team, which tries to emulate the playing style of the 1970s. The main function of that 1 DM is that Lucas will have to play from deep down (as far down as from the defense line) and start 'assisting' with the push with the AMs and the CFs (or CF in our 4-5-1 style) where the DM acts as the 'pusher' and the AMs act as the 'nodes'.

Confusing? Lucas versus Totenham, or was it Bolton, (2010) so to speak, where he gains the ball, presses forward, pushes the ball into one of the AMs, and let them break the defense wall. In the case where AMs can't, they pass the ball back to the "control tower DM", the DM will then hold the ball and push it to another AM to break through, and the entire cycle repeats itself. DM pass to AM, AM breaks or pass back to DM and holds it up and passes it to another AM, and repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat until the wall is broken.

As far as what the Gremio fan states, I also have developed (to my own understanding) of the current Liverpool pass-and-move game that King Kenny wants to achieve is not of the triangulation when it comes to Lucas' role but he will serve as the 'control tower' for every build up to any form of attacking play. Right from the DM.

The only reason as to why and how I see King Kenny plays Lucas almost similarly in that role is definitely not because that Lucas was the only man available (we spent a hell lot for many players come this season, and we have not replaced Lucas despite what others want us to think so) with any other signings of DM (with exception of Spearing where he's locally homegrown from our Academy ranks) that would replace nor to emulate Lucas' role.

If there's a person who knows WHO to lead an attack, Lucas would know, but as much as everyone can probably agree he's not the best passer, but that's the idea of the 'control tower DM', that is to control the flow and tempo of the game by setting up WHO gets the ball to lead the attack and acting as a rear-guard once the ball's passed forward in any case of the ball being pushed back to the DM to initiate new attack moves.

Still, I don't see quite how people may want to 'compare' our Lucas with the likes of Xabi Alonso, Xavi of Barca or other types of 'midfield bosses'.


But one thing that Rafa got it wrong (not by his choice, technically speaking), Roy got it worse (really he did) and King Kenny almost got it right is the selection of the 'deputy' that acts as the 'front man' for our DM to make his move. And I believe that Adam+Lucas, as evidently shown in some of the pre-season friendlies as well as last week's win over Arsenal proves that Adam+Lucas is a pairing that is worth considering as a backbone for an offensive orchestra. (remember, King Kenny builds his team from the striker to the defense, whereas Rafa Benitez does the groove entirely the opposite way)

So what say you?


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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 29 2011, 03:17 AM)
Just refrain from entering any other FC threads. Stay away. We may mean well but you cannot say for the same for them, as in how they perceive things.
In any case, I would bring up the case with the Adam+Lucas pairing and how things may work out.

Now, we all may be able to agree that Lucas is one of those players that bleeds Liverpool red, inside out and plays his heart, whether the team is playing exceptionally well or in its dire low (touchwood).

There are key points in making the pass-and-move groove to the liverpool football tune and that is that one role of Lucas as a DM as the 'conductor' to the orchestra.

Before I begin I was lead to reading a certain article by a certain GREMIO FC supporter in RAWK forums, which after further reading and assessment of the 'theory', here I produce my thoughts in Lucas's "conductor" role.

When our previous gaffer Rafa Benitez brought Lucas Leiva from Gremio, we all can possibly agree to an established fact that is that Lucas was one of Gremio's and Brazil's most promising talent in the AM category, and the one thing that makes Lucas very outstanding in Gremio was that he had the ideal positioning brain and the 'innate knowledge' of "WHO to pass" (not how to pass) and ability to make full use of his hold-the-ball skills. However, one thing that baffled a whole lot of fans and supporters is that how on earth he ended up being a DM instead of an AM and the 'disastrous' baptism-by-fire in which the earlier seasons he had with us, he had all the stick from fans and supporters. Still, Rafa being a master tactician (given if the players are playing exactly to his ever-tight-grip orchestra-on-the-field) had one idea in mind that perhaps I dare say King Kenny got it right, and something in line with the pass-and-move is the possessive play that was the main 'theme' in the 4-2-4 of the 1970s Brazil.

Irregardless of how things work before for Brazil in 1970s and how things are supposed to work for Liverpool, one thing that I was made to realize was the post that introduced the idea of a "control tower" DM that the current Brazilian team plays with Lucas at the core of the entire team, which tries to emulate the playing style of the 1970s. The main function of that 1 DM is that Lucas will have to play from deep down (as far down as from the defense line) and start 'assisting' with the push with the AMs and the CFs (or CF in our 4-5-1 style) where the DM acts as the 'pusher' and the AMs act as the 'nodes'.

Confusing? Lucas versus Totenham, or was it Bolton, (2010) so to speak, where he gains the ball, presses forward, pushes the ball into one of the AMs, and let them break the defense wall. In the case where AMs can't, they pass the ball back to the "control tower DM", the DM will then hold the ball and push it to another AM to break through, and the entire cycle repeats itself. DM pass to AM, AM breaks or pass back to DM and holds it up and passes it to another AM, and repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat until the wall is broken.

As far as what the Gremio fan states, I also have developed (to my own understanding) of the current Liverpool pass-and-move game that King Kenny wants to achieve is not of the triangulation when it comes to Lucas' role but he will serve as the 'control tower' for every build up to any form of attacking play. Right from the DM.

The only reason as to why and how I see King Kenny plays Lucas almost similarly in that role is definitely not because that Lucas was the only man available (we spent a hell lot for many players come this season, and we have not replaced Lucas despite what others want us to think so) with any other signings of DM (with exception of Spearing where he's locally homegrown from our Academy ranks) that would replace nor to emulate Lucas' role.

If there's a person who knows WHO to lead an attack, Lucas would know, but as much as everyone can probably agree he's not the best passer, but that's the idea of the 'control tower DM', that is to control the flow and tempo of the game by setting up WHO gets the ball to lead the attack and acting as a rear-guard once the ball's passed forward in any case of the ball being pushed back to the DM to initiate new attack moves.

Still, I don't see quite how people may want to 'compare' our Lucas with the likes of Xabi Alonso, Xavi of Barca or other types of 'midfield bosses'.
But one thing that Rafa got it wrong (not by his choice, technically speaking), Roy got it worse (really he did) and King Kenny almost got it right is the selection of the 'deputy' that acts as the 'front man' for our DM to make his move. And I believe that Adam+Lucas, as evidently shown in some of the pre-season friendlies as well as last week's win over Arsenal proves that Adam+Lucas is a pairing that is worth considering as a backbone for an offensive orchestra. (remember, King Kenny builds his team from the striker to the defense, whereas Rafa Benitez does the groove entirely the opposite way)

So what say you?
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 29 2011, 03:17 AM)
Just refrain from entering any other FC threads. Stay away. We may mean well but you cannot say for the same for them, as in how they perceive things.
In any case, I would bring up the case with the Adam+Lucas pairing and how things may work out.

Now, we all may be able to agree that Lucas is one of those players that bleeds Liverpool red, inside out and plays his heart, whether the team is playing exceptionally well or in its dire low (touchwood).

There are key points in making the pass-and-move groove to the liverpool football tune and that is that one role of Lucas as a DM as the 'conductor' to the orchestra.

Before I begin I was lead to reading a certain article by a certain GREMIO FC supporter in RAWK forums, which after further reading and assessment of the 'theory', here I produce my thoughts in Lucas's "conductor" role.

When our previous gaffer Rafa Benitez brought Lucas Leiva from Gremio, we all can possibly agree to an established fact that is that Lucas was one of Gremio's and Brazil's most promising talent in the AM category, and the one thing that makes Lucas very outstanding in Gremio was that he had the ideal positioning brain and the 'innate knowledge' of "WHO to pass" (not how to pass) and ability to make full use of his hold-the-ball skills. However, one thing that baffled a whole lot of fans and supporters is that how on earth he ended up being a DM instead of an AM and the 'disastrous' baptism-by-fire in which the earlier seasons he had with us, he had all the stick from fans and supporters. Still, Rafa being a master tactician (given if the players are playing exactly to his ever-tight-grip orchestra-on-the-field) had one idea in mind that perhaps I dare say King Kenny got it right, and something in line with the pass-and-move is the possessive play that was the main 'theme' in the 4-2-4 of the 1970s Brazil.

Irregardless of how things work before for Brazil in 1970s and how things are supposed to work for Liverpool, one thing that I was made to realize was the post that introduced the idea of a "control tower" DM that the current Brazilian team plays with Lucas at the core of the entire team, which tries to emulate the playing style of the 1970s. The main function of that 1 DM is that Lucas will have to play from deep down (as far down as from the defense line) and start 'assisting' with the push with the AMs and the CFs (or CF in our 4-5-1 style) where the DM acts as the 'pusher' and the AMs act as the 'nodes'.

Confusing? Lucas versus Totenham, or was it Bolton, (2010) so to speak, where he gains the ball, presses forward, pushes the ball into one of the AMs, and let them break the defense wall. In the case where AMs can't, they pass the ball back to the "control tower DM", the DM will then hold the ball and push it to another AM to break through, and the entire cycle repeats itself. DM pass to AM, AM breaks or pass back to DM and holds it up and passes it to another AM, and repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat until the wall is broken.

As far as what the Gremio fan states, I also have developed (to my own understanding) of the current Liverpool pass-and-move game that King Kenny wants to achieve is not of the triangulation when it comes to Lucas' role but he will serve as the 'control tower' for every build up to any form of attacking play. Right from the DM.

The only reason as to why and how I see King Kenny plays Lucas almost similarly in that role is definitely not because that Lucas was the only man available (we spent a hell lot for many players come this season, and we have not replaced Lucas despite what others want us to think so) with any other signings of DM (with exception of Spearing where he's locally homegrown from our Academy ranks) that would replace nor to emulate Lucas' role.

If there's a person who knows WHO to lead an attack, Lucas would know, but as much as everyone can probably agree he's not the best passer, but that's the idea of the 'control tower DM', that is to control the flow and tempo of the game by setting up WHO gets the ball to lead the attack and acting as a rear-guard once the ball's passed forward in any case of the ball being pushed back to the DM to initiate new attack moves.

Still, I don't see quite how people may want to 'compare' our Lucas with the likes of Xabi Alonso, Xavi of Barca or other types of 'midfield bosses'.
But one thing that Rafa got it wrong (not by his choice, technically speaking), Roy got it worse (really he did) and King Kenny almost got it right is the selection of the 'deputy' that acts as the 'front man' for our DM to make his move. And I believe that Adam+Lucas, as evidently shown in some of the pre-season friendlies as well as last week's win over Arsenal proves that Adam+Lucas is a pairing that is worth considering as a backbone for an offensive orchestra. (remember, King Kenny builds his team from the striker to the defense, whereas Rafa Benitez does the groove entirely the opposite way)

So what say you?
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a good reading tho rclxms.gif
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i believe credit need to be given to rafa for lucas progress. he and lucas both get stick from the press, pundits and own fans. everybody was screaming how lucas is not good enough and why does rafa keep him on the starting line up. almost no one have the faith in lucas like he did. too bad rafa's time is up before lucas matured in his position.

kenny also saw his potential and thank god for that. he was influential last season and carry on his form to this season. a weaker player would crumble after all the sticks that being thrown. not him though. he carry on and keep focus on football.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:52 AM)
Yea... They gonna hate us for raiding them..Just like

Sunderland (hendo)
Newcastle (Jose+Carrol)
Blackpool (adam)
Villa (Downing)

hate us....

Yeap, i m still keeping that siggy. He remains my favourite player albeit with a little damage to the impression on how he left us. Grateful for what he did for us though....  smile.gif
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please no!!! they will leave the club like Torres and Insua!!!! hahahah
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Sorry for off-topic a bit but came accross this and I thought of sharin here, any fresh graduates lfc fans keen on workin for our shirt sponsors can check out this link:

http://www.jobstreet.com.my/jobs/2011/8/s/...14245.htm?fr=11

By the way, I'm not from SCB :-)

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Aug 29 2011, 01:08 AM)
the thing with us so far... hopefully in the coming future is to not go into other team's thread even when their down. offer support yes. but stomp on them no.

I can't talk much about the other teams fans but let it be that at least we here aren't that farked up.

the capitulation of Arsenal is another rough patch for them. they are a great team with great history. i am sure they will be back. My dad must be heartbroken today but then again a supporter of more than 45 years is not so easily shaken. smile.gif
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Too many overly dramatic fans these days I must say. A couple of bad results and it's a travesty. 3 seasons with no title and it's the dark age. Think fans these days need to gain a little more perspective. Assuming that what they claim is true i.e. to be a fan for life (a term I take loosely these days given the people I've seen jump ship), then are a few bad results really a disaster? Now Hillsborough, that was a disaster. Bad results are but a mere blip in the bigger scheme of things. We won the Champions League in dramatic fashion back in 2005, 7 years ago! Still fresh in our minds though isn't it?

I've never resented Arsenal although I think Arsene Wenger has underachieved despite the club being in a healthy state financially. I've always felt he needed to take more risks and spend a little to turn them from nearly boys into champions. Defensively, they were all over the place and it didn't help they came up against an in-form Man Utd team.
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so who's coming? Poulsen to Arsenal?

I cant get these kind of jokes lately rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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You know come to think of it...Poulsen maybe useful for Arsenal for his experience and Denmark captain (if I'm not mistaken) and all...probably loan him there or something? Loan Joe Cole to them also seems like a good option. tongue.gif

And oh yeah, Harry is also interested in bringing Joe Cole to Spurs after Modric leaving to Chelsea which seems imminent....so there you go, all players will be happy to get some playing time.
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I think after all the Suarez, Adams, Henderson, Lucas and the rest getting praised, a really sound point taken from one of the greatest things I've seen over the games with LFC is Steward Downing.

He seems to have really made the lives of Suarez, Adam and the rest easy up in front. It's not because of his pacy runs up the field but the way he positions the RB and CB of the opposition teams. He floats and moves with more then just coincidence. He seems to pull the defenders to him leaving the field on the left for us truly open for Suarez or Enrique to get in. In truth I had my doubts on Downing earlier prior to his purchase but now I see why we bought him. He and Lucas are possibly the most important player in the field for us.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 29 2011, 09:16 AM)
Too many overly dramatic fans these days I must say. A couple of bad results and it's a travesty. 3 seasons with no title and it's the dark age. Think fans these days need to gain a little more perspective. Assuming that what they claim is true i.e. to be a fan for life (a term I take loosely these days given the people I've seen jump ship), then are a few bad results really a disaster? Now Hillsborough, that was a disaster. Bad results are but a mere blip in the bigger scheme of things. We won the Champions League in dramatic fashion back in 2005, 7 years ago! Still fresh in our minds though isn't it?
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http://liverpool.theoffside.com/premier-le...s-v-bolton.html

a great article of lucas vs bolton. i cant get my mind off from lucas. brilliant play by him
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nice write up. thank goodness lucas remain defiant to stay in lfc under RH (whom ignore & consistantly would drop LLeiva.

rafa didnt get his choise wrong with lucas, when LLeiva was being groomed into a midfielder he is now, we had a better DM then with mascherano.

it is good that we won at bolton, but i won't be carried away with results like this & have the media labelling us at title contenders. its too early. I'll say get back to europe (CL) first. league title, bonus if we can but honestly we dont have a squad with proper depth for a title challenge. it will show when its after mid season/christmas/new year. look at arsenal last season, chasing the title toward the late but imploded when the toil got around when the choise first team players grew heavy.

I rather let both the manchester clubs hog the limelight & their fans drooling in their pants. I'lll be more happy we are ahead of the red devils at the league standings at the end of this season. thats my wish.

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Wow. A teams not been humiliated at Old Trafford like this since Man Utd. By Andrea Dossena

This statement made me smile a little but Dossena is still an arrogant prick.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 29 2011, 01:57 AM)
I think we need a proper traditional right winger. Arshavin and Benny are both players that cut inside from flanks. Not to say that they are ineffective but we need someone who can deliver crosses from the right.

Notice anything about our current team? Our team left flank has gone from the weakest area to the strongest area. The addition of Enrique and Downing has certainly make it one of the most potent weapon we have in our arsenal. Downing bombing forward with great positioning sense and appear on time to help out defense. Enrique, attacking but doing a great job at defense simultaneously. More importantly, both deliver delicious crosses from left. It has gone from weakest area to strongest area.I do think we can further improve our right flank especially when Hendo, Kuyt and even Maxi are not the traditional type of winger that deliver crosses.... We need someone on the right to deliver more crosses, someone with pace to beat the defenders....
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Dont worry, when Glen Johnson is back, you will see more crosses..
Thought about ring wingers, i could remember a few..
Joey Barton who can deliver good crosses from right.. But too bad, his attitude no good.
Ibrahim Affelay? Not playing much @ Barcelona, time to move kid, come to Liverpool yo.
Jesus Navas? Accelerator guy who plays on purely right wing.. This guy can shoot as well !
All in one, J.Henderson is not bad whattttt laugh.gif


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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Aug 29 2011, 01:44 PM)
Wow. A teams not been humiliated at Old Trafford like this since Man Utd. By Andrea Dossena

This statement made me smile a little but Dossena is still an arrogant prick.
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its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night  hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night  hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night  hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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QUOTE(Luminous2 @ Aug 29 2011, 02:45 PM)
its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night  hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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to tempt van persie and walcott away from the sinking ship biggrin.gif
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Too many overly dramatic fans these days I must say. A couple of bad results and it's a travesty. 3 seasons with no title and it's the dark age. Think fans these days need to gain a little more perspective. Assuming that what they claim is true i.e. to be a fan for life (a term I take loosely these days given the people I've seen jump ship), then are a few bad results really a disaster? Now Hillsborough, that was a disaster. Bad results are but a mere blip in the bigger scheme of things. We won the Champions League in dramatic fashion back in 2005, 7 years ago! Still fresh in our minds though isn't it?

I've never resented Arsenal although I think Arsene Wenger has underachieved despite the club being in a healthy state financially. I've always felt he needed to take more risks and spend a little to turn them from nearly boys into champions. Defensively, they were all over the place and it didn't help they came up against an in-form Man Utd team.
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Kinda know how they feel right now. This happened to us last season. Lucky to get draws, players banned and injured, bad start. Hope AW can do something about it and its fans stay strong and have faith! doh.gif If DC was there to spanar one of Arsenal player (Let's say it's Arshavin) <---- lagi a huge blow to them ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Aug 29 2011, 02:12 PM)
Dont worry, when Glen Johnson is back, you will see more crosses..
Thought about ring wingers, i could remember a few..
Joey Barton who can deliver good crosses from right.. But too bad, his attitude no good.
Ibrahim Affelay? Not playing much @ Barcelona, time to move kid, come to Liverpool yo.
Jesus Navas? Accelerator guy who plays on purely right wing.. This guy can shoot as well !
All in one, J.Henderson is not bad whattttt laugh.gif


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I think we are gonna get confirmation of coates signing by night.Most probably in the evening biggrin.gif
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its still puzzling me why DC is at the match last night  hmm.gif . besides arshavin who would u all think that he's targeting? or he just simply there to watch/study the match?
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QUOTE(Luminous2 @ Aug 29 2011, 04:10 PM)
Kinda know how they feel right now. This happened to us last season. Lucky to get draws, players banned and injured, bad start. Hope AW can do something about it and its fans stay strong and have faith!  doh.gif If DC was there to spanar one of Arsenal player (Let's say it's Arshavin) <---- lagi a huge blow to them  ohmy.gif
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not sure why DC is there. i'm sure he wasnt there for MU players but maybe to see first hand of the MU players (so much has been said by the press of the fergie's new youth legionaires) hmm.gif

I don't think after the 2 episode by arsenals 2 arch rivals (us & MU), they would be audacious to even think selling more. Their fans will kill them. they obviously need reinforcement after their (very important) 2 key players left.




offer them poulsen & joe cole? arsenal are in desperate/trying times BUT not stupid. shakehead.gif

hope they (gunners) recover quickly. I'm sure they'lll take heart we were also in trying times last season being so close to bottom clubs /relegation zone, only to pick up to a higher finish

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shock 45mil bid for Rooney  drool.gif  drool.gif
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If he ever puts on a liverpool shirt,i will shoot myself.

To say it in drogba's style, it's a disgrace,it's a fking disgrace biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Aug 29 2011, 03:45 PM)
(rooney) he's a devil, (once a blue evertonian)

in his blood, a dislike of all things liverpool fc.  yawn.gif
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...-poulsen-escape

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QUOTE(cheez @ Aug 29 2011, 05:02 PM)
should be easy for Espanyol. Poulsen's not that quick.
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send him to espanyol fast,send him by vip plane also i dun care
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Im watching too,after this got Manu beatin Arse
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...ound-out-vargas

another player???lol
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maybe damian comolli was at the arsenal match to...wait for it...(drum roll)...just watch the match? geez guys...just because he turns up somewhere doesn't mean he's scouting someone?
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i believe credit need to be given to rafa for lucas progress. he and lucas both get stick from the press, pundits and own fans. everybody was screaming how lucas is not good enough and why does rafa keep him on the starting line up. almost no one have the faith in lucas like he did. too bad rafa's time is up before lucas matured in his position.

kenny also saw his potential and thank god for that. he was influential last season and carry on his form to this season. a weaker player would crumble after all the sticks that being thrown. not him though. he carry on and keep focus on football.
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QUOTE(nando @ Aug 29 2011, 05:05 PM)
should be easy for Espanyol. Poulsen's not that quick.
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you can watch them in International game..
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Im watching too,after this got Manu beatin Arse
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The vargas news i believe is a fake one... We already strong enough on the left. We need one striker after Coates signing....
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Heard that traditional winger is a dying breed..even in the english game where these players will race for the byline to send in a razor sharp cross for the strikers to score with a header....in fact liverpool tried to groom some of these player but without much success...we have mark kennedy who impress initially but couldnt make the mark...then we sign jason mcateer...but turn out didnt have the pace..then mcmanaman, who operates more as an AM....logically a right winger should be easier to find, afterall its right leg.. but as it is nowadays, not much stand out wingers available..i guess u can find plenty with pace but crosses sucks...those who can cross but pace sucks....which is why kuyt is still relevant, as he has a bit of pace, good crosses and plus point is he can defend and track back....earlier rumour about liverpool targetting aaron lennon...well i think he is quick but poor in tracking back and also crosses not quality enough. Nuff said, am happy with our current arsenal on the flanks
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i think vargas fake la.Most likely coates is our last signing.If ngog leaves to bolton on wednesday,then we might get a striker.


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hopefully we will get coates and bellamy !
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For those who don't know why kenny left 20years ago,this is a good read http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/dalglish.shtm
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Benayoun leaving Chelsea?

Yossi Benayoun appears to be on the verge of leaving Chelsea after confirmed on Twitter that he is in negotiations with a few clubs.

Benayoun has seen just one minute of action for the Blues this season and looks to be surplus to requirements following the arrival of fellow midfielder Juan Mata from Valencia.


Source: Soccernet

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on Benayoun.They says lvp and lille are leading the chase.now sure though.always puzzle why benitez doesn play him more often...
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on Benayoun.They says lvp and lille are leading the chase.now sure though.always puzzle why benitez doesn play him more often...
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guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders


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i want to wish Eid Mubarrak for our fellow Liverpool muslim fans, and to others kopites, Happy Holiday...!


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i want to wish Eid Mubarrak for our fellow Liverpool muslim fans, and to others kopites, Happy Holiday...!
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eh, how you know my house at Bentong? (checking My Control)...
eh, my house everyday open house...just let me know when you want to come. (ajak ajak ayam)
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Where the hell is coates confirmation,i have been waiting all day unsure.gif
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guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders


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I couldn't hold my tears when i saw Dalglish , Gerrard and You'll Never Walk Alone at the end. It's a shame that it's not getting screened here.

Is there a way for us to get it in even if need to chip in cash?

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dont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?


Added on August 30, 2011, 12:06 amdont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?

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dont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?


Added on August 30, 2011, 12:06 amdont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Aug 30 2011, 12:05 AM)
dont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?


Added on August 30, 2011, 12:06 amdont think this movie will be aired in Malaysia rite ?
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It's getting released October 21 in the UK. I will not forgive all the cinemas here if they don't release it here!
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guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders
Will never walks alone!

Thanks mate, this is my must watch list for sure!

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guys,

is there any else movie related to Liverpool FC?
can share the title if u know? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Aug 29 2011, 10:22 PM)
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Liverpool vs Manchester United

Hi, I'm not here to troll

but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan

-peace-

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haih wonder why ppl dont read posts properly .. didnt i posted before & mention that Will movie will be released on october this year ? and from what i've heard on the radio, yes it will be screened in malaysia ..
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 02:53 AM)
Liverpool vs Manchester United

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but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan

-peace-

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definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand

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No way..Meireles better than Bennayoun..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l-Meireles.html
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Twitter

1-Joe Cole is having a medical tomorrow at an unknown club, believed to be QPR
2-Guardian - Benayoun is unlikely to be part of any deal.LFC dont want him back
3-BWFC will come back with an improved offer for David Ngog. #LFC still in the market for a forward
4-Italian media suggesting LFC have contacted Lazio today about Mauro Zarate in regard to a loan move


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"I've played with Drogba at Chelsea and Rooney for England,but Luis Suarez is the best striker I've ever seen" - Joe Cole #LFC

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QUOTE(xMika @ Aug 30 2011, 03:10 AM)
haih wonder why ppl dont read posts properly .. didnt i posted before & mention that Will movie will be released on october this year ? and from what i've heard on the radio, yes it will be screened in malaysia ..
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM)
definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand
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Suarez 2X > Berba, because Suarez dun sulk

and the real thing is

Coates > Ferdinand
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Heard that traditional winger is a dying breed..even in the english game where these players will race for the byline to send in a razor sharp cross for the strikers to score with a header....in fact liverpool tried to groom some of these player but without much success...we have mark kennedy who impress initially but couldnt make the mark...then we sign jason mcateer...but turn out didnt have the pace..then mcmanaman, who operates more as an AM....logically a right winger should be easier to find, afterall its right leg.. but as it is nowadays, not much stand out wingers available..i guess u can find plenty with pace but crosses sucks...those who can cross but pace sucks....which is why kuyt is still relevant, as he has a bit of pace, good crosses and plus point is he can defend and track back....earlier rumour about liverpool targetting aaron lennon...well i think he is quick but poor in tracking back and also crosses not quality enough. Nuff said, am happy with our current arsenal on the flanks
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It's probably because the game has evolved. Traditional wingers work well with traditional centre forwards. Big, strong and tall but these days, athleticism is the more sought after trait. Mark Kennedy struggled to hold down a regular spot but he did have big shoes to fill. Until today I don't think we've signed any winger as good as John Barnes. Says something that Kennedy couldn't even get a game ahead of Mark Walters.

Football formations have become more complex. Often the lineup you see on the telestrator is deceptive. Teams change shape and players switch positions very often in today's game. When attacking, teams can adopt a 4-3-3 but revert to a 4-5-1 while defending. There is actually very little point in having traditional wingers that hug the sidelines if you have a Suarez or Hernandez lead the line alone. They aren't going to win too many headers that's for sure. Downing started out playing wide but if you look at him now, he often drifts infield. Wingers also swap sides now so teams have an option to play narrow with wingers drifting infield to take shots on goal with their stronger foot. I'm actually fine with the idea of not having any traditional wide players, especially if you consider how adventurous fullbacks are these days. In recent years we've seen the likes of Glen Johnson, John Arne Riise, Vegaard Haggem, Jason McAteer (who sometimes played at rightback), Stig Inge Bjornebye and Steve Finnan marauding forward so provide crosses from wide positions so having wingers that stay wide isn't a necessity. This is in turn possible because of increasing importance of playing a defensive midfielder as an anchor to cover either fullback (or wingback) if we lose position and they are caught upfield.

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guys dont know if you already know about this but this should be on everyone of our calenders
Yes I believe it was about a month ago that this was posted. I've since watched the trailer about 10 times. Another movie Liverpool fans should watch if you haven't already is the 51st State starring Robert Carlyle and Samuel L. Jackson.

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Liverpool vs Manchester United

Hi, I'm not here to troll

but to ask for honest assessment bout this article by Liverpool fan

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you may choose not to reply if you don't feel like it. thank you
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To be honest I don't think there is much between our players on paper. I've always maintained that the reason you lot are so successful is because of the way you play as a team, not as individuals. There's a reason you don't see fringe players make the headlines after leaving the club e.g. Nicky Butt and Alan Smith. I'll be direct and say that I don't think you have the best players, but I think you have the best team.

With regards to the article, I definitely think that Reina is better than De Gea at the moment. I think the latter has had a shaky start to the season and I think the fact you scored 8 against Arsenal masked another mistake he made when he allowed Walcott's shot to go through his legs. He will improve in time but currently, Reina is the more assured keeper at the back and he is a rare breed indeed. The term sweeper-keeper comes to mind. Also, Reina excels in starting attacks from the back with the quick and accurate distribution.

Won't go into each player but I think the following players standout in their respective positions based on recent form of course.

Reina, Gerrard, Suarez, Agger, Lucas for Liverpool. Evans, Evra, Clevery, Welbeck and Rooney for Man Utd.

There are some players who play in similar positions but are different e.g. Agger and Vidic.

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imo, taking benny back will be stupid.
and i believe KD is not stupid.
benny obviously left cos he wasnt getting any playtime, now he wants to leave chelsea for the same reason...
but hes definitely not going to get any playtime in lfc either...so like they say...bugger off.


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM)
definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

and because im biased:

Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand
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Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 07:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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we not talking about the performance for the last 10 years.we talking about this season alone.the article written about the possible result when this 2 teams meet each other this season and i also didnt agree with the article also

the article also not brought by our fans. it is from your own.we just discussing the article and i dont see any childish statement here
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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Another mentally retarded m***n ! . Can't even read between "article" and "comment" !

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.


Well how else are we supposed to rate him then??? Maybe we should ask Nostradamus how good De Gea will turn out to be in the future? If we're comparing players, we can only rate them in the present.

QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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The ratings are based on opinions and we were asked for ours you twat. If you don't want to hear the answers don't fooking ask the question especially when you cannot be objective. Makes me wonder who the childish prat is. I challenge you to a mature discussion on football then. You talk about maturity and yet the bold statement is juvenile. Djimi Traore has a Champions League title, so he's better than Rafael? Duh! Physical manifestation of dumbness.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2011, 07:31 PM)
Well how else are we supposed to rate him then??? Maybe we should ask Nostradamus how good De Gea will turn out to be in the future? If we're comparing players, we can only rate them in the present.
The ratings are based on opinions and we were asked for ours you twat. If you don't want to hear the answers don't fooking ask the question especially when you cannot be objective. Makes me wonder who the childish prat is. I challenge you to a mature discussion on football then. You talk about maturity and yet the bold statement is juvenile. Djimi Traore has a Champions League title, so he's better than Rafael? Duh! Physical manifestation of dumbness.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Aug 30 2011, 06:44 PM)
Obviously Reina is better than De Gea atm. He got more playing hours, experience and older than De Gea. Don't compare with someone who just completed one full season with A.Madrid.

Whatever the player ratings are, too bias IMO. They should get a neutral pundit to do so. Honestly speaking, if you guys are comparing between the players, just ask yourself this, who won more trophies in the last 10 years.. or wait more English League titles?

No offense to anyone but sometimes the maturity level of your statements are just too childish. Peace out!
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It was your club fans that posted the link here , check on ur previous pages and he was asking our opinions . I am agree with Duke that we cannot compare player with player but a team with a team. Why you never bother to check on previous pages and me and few forummers here did think the comparisons are biased .
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 07:34 PM)
It was your club fans that posted the link here , check on ur previous pages and he was asking our opinions . I am agree with Duke that we cannot compare player with player but a team with a team. Why you never bother to check on previous pages and me and few forummers here did think the comparisons are biased .
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His brains are smaller than the signature he has.
The problem with most of the people is that, they don't previous posts or comments and jump into conclusion , so called showing off sensitivity when his "champions" been "compared". Read ...read..read.. doh.gif !
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Aug 30 2011, 07:37 PM)
His brains are smaller than the signature he has.
The problem with most of the people is that, they don't previous posts or comments and jump into conclusion , so called showing off sensitivity when his "champions" been "compared". Read ...read..read.. doh.gif !
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well, maybe they get used to one liner per post.You can see how amazingly their thread jumping few pages in an hour time.

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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 07:42 PM)
well, maybe they get used to one liner per post.You can see how amazingly their thread jumping few pages in an hour time.

anyway ,wish all my muslim friends here Selamat Hari Raya AidilFitri  biggrin.gif
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Exactly, i do see drastic jump over to new thread with some real pace. That doesn't make them a great article writer or could write constructive comments with facts and on top of all this "knows" football , what it is all about. Like Duke said, some of his friends who had a go at Liverpool fans when we won against them 2-0 and they netted 8 past Arsenal, what has it to do with us winning and they winning it "big". Win is a win , it doesn't matter what scoreline it takes. In my opinion , each team this season , takes an extra effort to strengthen the squad at various level and positions. It's just that , sometimes they could not turn the result favoring them. In football there must be a winner, a losing site , and possibly tough opponents could be tied up!

I'm with Duke Red to challenge that retarded moron to discuss about football with us and everyone, i'm sure in the end we will know whose being "Childish".

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neway, lets forgot about that childish scum.

any official news regarding transfer of coates? been waiting since the last match..
and we only have about 48 hours before the transfer window close..
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Firstly , it was a forummer there copy and paste the article from http://live4liverpool.com/.What makes me wonder is why he even bother to check on that website?

He choose to read from a pro-liverpool website and he felt butthurted.

Well , this is so in contrast with what duke said before.

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This is the single reason why so many members CBF to post or reply in this thread anymore. It used to be so constructive and contained highly valued readings 3-4 years ago. Now it's just abusive and disrespectful taunting. Everytime we win, lose or draw, we get flak. Even when they win, they'll still come here and boast. Seriously sickening stuff to read.

Why did I even bother to post? GG

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QUOTE(SquaLL_JB @ Aug 30 2011, 07:52 PM)
neway, lets forgot about that childish scum.

any official news regarding transfer of coates? been waiting since the last match..
and we only have about 48 hours before the transfer window close..
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Hope we seal the deal soon. Kick in the teeth for scums fans. Sneijder is staying at Inter! Some Twitter messages for your reference


#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool 'want Daniel Sturridge as part of Chelsea's Raul Meireles bid'
#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool are Right to Reject Chelsea's Interest in Raul Meireles
#LiverpoolDaily - Bolton agree deal for Liverpool striker [David Ngog]
#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool on verge of completing deal for Nacional defender Sebastian Coates
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Hope we seal the deal soon.  Kick in the teeth for scums fans. Sneijder is staying at Inter! Some Twitter messages for your reference
#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool 'want Daniel Sturridge as part of Chelsea's Raul Meireles bid'
#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool are Right to Reject Chelsea's Interest in Raul Meireles
#LiverpoolDaily - Bolton agree deal for Liverpool striker [David Ngog]
#LiverpoolDaily - Liverpool on verge of completing deal for Nacional defender Sebastian Coates
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I think Coates is almost a done deal , I heard a he rejected offer from Atletico Madrid in order to play with Suarez here =) .

tis picture taken from rawk and can see clearly he is signing an autograph for a Liverpool fan.

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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 07:54 PM)
Firstly , it was a forummer there copy and paste the article from http://live4liverpool.com/.What makes me wonder is why he even bother to check on that website?

He choose to read from a pro-liverpool website and he felt butthurted.

Well , this is so in contrast with what duke said before.
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so now I got the bullet as well?

I read that article's extract in MUST

and I googled for the full article

and came here to ask for the opinion

is that fine to you?
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 08:06 PM)
so now I got the bullet as well?

I read that article's extract in MUST

and I googled for the full article

and came here to ask for the opinion

is that fine to you?
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It's fine to ask opinion, look at what the other fan did .. branding our opinion "childish".

Honestly, you shouldn't had even thought about asking for opinion..

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 08:06 PM)
so now I got the bullet as well?

I read that article's extract in MUST

and I googled for the full article

and came here to ask for the opinion

is that fine to you?
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sorry my english is not good but the 'he' I am referring to is the one who blast us as childish.Asking opinion is not a problem for us .The problem is 'he' choose to click and read and feel butthurted and call us childish instead of having a proper discussion.

Dont so terasa my fren if you dont have intention to troll here. I didnt mean you.
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Aug 30 2011, 08:10 PM)
It's fine to ask opinion, look at what the other fan did .. branding our opinion "childish".

Honestly, you shouldn't had even thought about asking for opinion..
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 30 2011, 08:11 PM)
sorry my english is not good but the 'he' I am referring to is the one who blast us as childish.Asking opinion is not a problem for us .The problem is 'he' choose to click and read and feel butthurted and call us childish instead of having a proper discussion.

Dont so terasa my fren if you dont have intention to troll here. I didnt mean you.
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Firstly , it was a forummer there copy and paste the article from http://live4liverpool.com/.What makes me wonder is why he even bother to check on that website?



this statement...doesnt the he meant me? rclxub.gif

and the reason why I ask

isnt solely bout the comparison

oso about how highly rated for each liverpool player for you all compared 2 him

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 08:14 PM)
Firstly , it was a forummer there copy and paste the article from http://live4liverpool.com/.What makes me wonder is why he even bother to check on that website?
this statement...doesnt the he meant me?  rclxub.gif

and the reason why I ask

isnt soley bout the comparison

oso about how highly rated for each liverpool player for you all compared 2 him
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Sorry , I didnt mean you.

About the comparison , I dont think that article comparison is fair , personally I will prefer to read suarez and carroll strength compare to vidic and ferdinand strength.As Duke had said , we should judge how a team performs by their teamworks.Suarez wont playing well if we played hoofing the ball-tactic all the times.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 30 2011, 08:06 PM)
so now I got the bullet as well?

I read that article's extract in MUST

and I googled for the full article

and came here to ask for the opinion

is that fine to you?
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Don't be sensitive. I don't think anyone was directing animosity towards you. It was your less than enlightened brethren that's got temperatures soaring. He spouts all this nonsense about maturity and runs off crying like a little school girl when what we say isn't what he wants to hear. So should we all be pro Man Utd on our own thread as well out of respect for his feelings?

There article was based on the authors opinions and if Mr. Maturity had any sense he'd have countered each point with opinions of his own if he had any.



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Joe Cole to Lille.. season loan

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-n...rce=twitterfeed

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Downing expresses his surprise at how enormous our fanbase is.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...-than-i-thought?

I kinda like that some mancs constantly ask me how long it's been since we've won anything especially the league. Makes me proud that we still have a large loyal fanbase in spite of it.
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duhhh....stress betol la dengan budak bodoh ni...org bagi feedback dengan bernas, dia boleh ckp orang budak2 plak....aku pun tak tau nak pikir macam mana lagi...

btw, i like the topic about old type of winger like Ashley Young. Does Downing fall in the same categories? we have Steve Macmanaman and Kewell before, but why they fail? not suitable for tactics that employed by GH and Rafa..
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QUOTE(normeck @ Aug 30 2011, 09:01 PM)
duhhh....stress betol la dengan budak bodoh ni...org bagi feedback dengan bernas, dia boleh ckp orang budak2 plak....aku pun tak tau nak pikir macam mana lagi...

btw, i like the topic about old type of winger like Ashley Young. Does Downing fall in the same categories? we have Steve Macmanaman and Kewell before, but why they fail? not suitable for tactics that employed by GH and Rafa..
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I don't think you'll find too many managers that use traditional wide men these days.


Added on August 30, 2011, 9:27 pmMonths on and I'm still chuffed.



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yep duke, that is what actually happen for both players. Player that approach by 2 big club in spain like RM and Barca just not a decent player. They really got something that attract this 2 big club. Well maybe that time (in Macca case) this 2 club was big enough? (not really follow this league back then, Valencia also and Deportivo maybe).

Does King Kenny back then using old traditional winger? He signed John Barnes from Watford, and he is a winger...does he really fall into rare manager that play old winger type? does downing is the 'sign' ?


Added on August 30, 2011, 9:54 pmanother topic is, does we have a good right winger? name it beside Gerrard

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QUOTE(normeck @ Aug 30 2011, 09:52 PM)
yep duke, that is what actually happen for both players. Player that approach by  2 big club in spain like RM and Barca just not a decent player. They really got something that attract this 2 big club. Well maybe that time (in Macca case) this 2 club was big enough? (not really follow this league back then, Valencia also and Deportivo maybe).

Does King Kenny back then using old traditional winger? He signed John Barnes from Watford, and he is a winger...does he really fall into rare manager that play old winger type? does downing is the 'sign' ?


Added on August 30, 2011, 9:54 pmanother topic is, does we have a good right winger? name it beside Gerrard
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Under Dalglish we never really had big, tall centreforwards and we tended to keep the ball on the deck. Neither Rush, Beardsley nor Aldo were incredibly gifted in the air and scored most of their goals with their feet. Barnes was simply brilliant. He could stay out wide or he could come inside which he did a lot. On the other wing was Ray Houghton, not a traditional winger at all. I don't think we ever adopted a rigid formation or played route 1 football where we punted the ball into the opposition box, hence the term, "pass and move, the Liverpool groove". Ah wait I stand corrected. We did play route 1 football under Houllier where we often launched the ball forward in hope of finding Emile Heskey. Now that we have Carroll, it does help to have someone who can knock a few crosses in and Downing is an ideal candidate with that sweet left foot of his.

I think Kuyt does well on the right defensively, and when we do go forward, he operates like more like a right sided forward with Kelly or Johnson providing the width on that flank. I don't think we have a right winger but when your fullbacks push forward, you don't really need one.

It's always useful to have players who stay wide naturally to open room for your central players. Players like Riera and Nunez provided width when we needed them but never really cemented their places because it just isn't the way we play and like I said, with the emergence of wing backs, wingers who only stay wide are being phased out of the game.

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ahh Emily Heskey...the famous long ball from GH era...and you mention Caroll. This guy from Leicester City has a pace compare to Caroll. But still the game not really bad when GH as a manager. We still win FA and League Cup. But we have to go more from just winning a cup. We have to get back where we belong.
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How about Glen Johnson? Yes, yes, we do know that Glenny is definitely the 'stereotypical' attacking-wingback, not the role of a winger; but here's how I look at it.

Glen Johnson had already played BOTH flanks, even when he 'lost' his 'position' to a newcomer to the first team squad when it comes to selection on the right back. However, he has proven that he can definitely play as a flanker, and I should say that he does very well at that.

Maybe a certain game where our boss employed a 5-4-1 formation post January that yielded us a very optimistic result in regards to our wingbacks (I still remember we had very good praises for our young ones, including a certain 'Flanno' which have been getting flak in our recent game(s) in this new season of 2011-2012 BPL) and I believe that if there's a need for a conversion then Glen Johnson comes up to mind.

The reason I put it is that if my memory serves me right, under 3 managers thus far (although injuries do persist with him, almost like the other 'glass legs' player we have) Glen Johnson has managed to fulfil his tactical role (albeit the defending part is a suspect, that probably we can agree?) as one that can hold and bring the ball forward, and is not afraid of the touchline.

The only issue, based on how games have revealed is that if we play Glenny we'll need to have a winger or AM that can backtrack (although in most cases its always Carragher and Lucas getting into defensive position on zonal marking before either one smacks the opposition with a tackle) and our Glenny would just be trotting up to pick up the ball and pass it (in the event that he loses possession)

Still, I would think that he's probably one of those wingbacks that can be converted into wingers.
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Glen Johnson from his 1st club West Ham>Chelsea>Portsmouth was a right back. At Chelsea his a favor until Abraham like to play Geremi instead of Glen.

It also a good idea to let Glen play as a winger. He has ability in attacking, but a little bit lose when tracking ball ball (we have discuss this) This should get into consideration, since Kuyt or Gerrard do get back to win the ball. Well its not we cant put him on right wing, just his weakness should be an extra job for Lucas and Kelly.

How's glen crosses? is it good? forgot already cause long time no see him.

Why i brings up this traditional winger is, when i watch Man Utd game. Since Beckham they have a good winger. And after one gone, they still have a player that almost up to the par as Sir Alex want to be. And new one Ashley Young. What a great goal ....bola curve tuuu..
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Sebastian Coates sails through work permit, now officially a Liverpool player. Uruguayan defender has Scottish father

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QUOTE(normeck @ Aug 30 2011, 10:17 PM)
ahh Emily Heskey...the famous long ball from GH era...and you mention Caroll. This guy from Leicester City has a pace compare to Caroll. But still the game not really bad when GH as a manager. We still win FA and League Cup. But we have to go more from just winning a cup. We have to get back where we belong.
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Added on August 30, 2011, 11:01 pmMmm Ashley Young isn't a conventional winger though is he? I mean his stronger foot is his right one but he plays on the left, much like our Joe Cole.

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Sebastian Coates to #LFC DONE!

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hmm, i'm still pondering that we ought to have one more striker? how do you guys think? or are we good with 4, Kuyt, Ngog, Suarez and Caroll?
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 30 2011, 11:07 PM)
hmm, i'm still pondering that we ought to have one more striker? how do you guys think? or are we good with 4, Kuyt, Ngog, Suarez and Caroll?
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Ngog would be sealing Bolton's deal no?
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i think it is sufficient to have 4 strikers...in case of injury, we can opt to play with lone striker and 5 midfielders..
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that's highly speculative. You know our gaffer leaves no hints. But I'll say we're doing the 'sell only if we can buy' mode instead of 'buy only if we can sell' mode that we went through during Rafa's era.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Aug 30 2011, 09:41 AM)
definitely biased. no surprise.

but i agree

Reina > De Gea

Lucas > Carrick

others i think man u players have the edge.

Close call

Young > Downing

Suarez > Berba

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Carragher 1000000+ > Ferdinand
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Aug 30 2011, 10:58 PM)
neilashton_ Neil Ashton by Richard__Buxton

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he will be playing center rite . or switch with kelly hmm.gif
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sigh, my irritation knows no bounds when there is no game for us over this long week of holiday i am having.

I AM FRIGGIN PISSED!!! ...sigh :S


Added on August 31, 2011, 1:40 amoh and to the previous bunch of fella's (see i am being respectful) asking for a comparison between players? well, here is an honest reply:

1. Don't expect a fair comparison as there is nothing to compare in the first place - we don't know your players too well, neither do wee really look into it too much, so we don't know therefore hard to come out with a "fair comparison

2. Even if there are comparisons, please don't expect it to be non-bias, as we would definitely rate most of our players higher, just like you would too in your thread. so don't be stupid to expect anything less.

3. If you see a comparison leaning heavily to a club supported in this thread, please do not be butthurt (is this even a word, wateva) as you would be "stupid and naive" if you think otherwise. a bunch of hypocritical comments coming from your thread tells me you would do the same in a comparison. So in short feck off if you don't like what you are reading.

4. I love my club and the fans that are with our club and as much as we respect any club in the premier league, as rival fans you need to earn that respect and for a start "stop being hypocritical. so yeah, go fap if you have so much time in your hands smile.gif

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where is Coates? i'm getting nervous
where is Coates? i keep refreshing the liverpool home page
where is Coates? i keep asking where is Coates?
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Coates in rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
see this post on suarez fb..

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Luis-Suarez/167866666571743
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QUOTE(hercules3110 @ Aug 31 2011, 03:11 AM)
Coates in  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
see this post on suarez fb..

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Luis-Suarez/167866666571743
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wow! shocking.gif is that seriously suarez? like his original, official page? haha..
but still waiting for news on lfc.tv though..
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He announced it first ahead of the club. lol.

https://twitter.com/#!/luis16suarez

https://twitter.com/#!/luis16suarez/sta...617103053033472
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QUOTE(ahmar @ Aug 31 2011, 03:18 AM)
wow! shocking.gif is that seriously suarez? like his original, official page? haha..
but still waiting for news on lfc.tv though..
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poulsen going to Evian Thonon Gaillard .. french league ..
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rclxms.gif suarez is a joker la rclxms.gif
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another good news.. rclxm9.gif
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...oulsen-transfer
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wonder why I liked Poulsen .. is he really that lousy ?
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wonder why I liked Poulsen .. is he really that lousy ?
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yes he is.
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i just googled Evian Thonon Gaillard.
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wonder why I liked Poulsen .. is he really that lousy ?
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i would say he is over the hill.. don't get me wrong.. he was an excellent player back then.. the keyword here is back then..

right now he is more of a deadwood and an expensive player to have playing for the reserves.. with him leaving, and hopefully cole and degen to follow, we could free up the wage bill and get players who will help us improve the squad.. brows.gif
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Liverpool FC have tonight confirmed that they have reached agreement with Evian Thonon Gaillard for the transfer of Christian Poulsen.

The French side have now been given permission to talk to the Denmark international.

finally
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...joins-liverpool
20 yo...
p.jones=20m
coates=7.5m

Have never really seen him play much thou... hopefully a bargain!!
Uruguayan never disappointed us, rite? YNWA!
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yeay! made my day! welcome Coates!

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aahh..finally coates is official. great start for hopefully a great day.
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do we need another backup striker? zarate, is he good? hmm
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Liverpool Sign Sebastian Coates


Liverpool have completed the signing of Sebastian Coates after the player was granted a full work permit today. The Uruguayan joins from Club Nacional for around £6m.
There had been a delay in confirmation of the Coates deal but it is now understood to have been finalised upon receipt of a work permit, for which he qualified as an international player with outstanding potential.
The 20-year-old shares the same birthday as ex-red Sami Hyypia, and is also the same height. If he turns out to be half the player that Sami was then the Anfield faithful will take to him very well indeed.
The official club statement read:
Liverpool have confirmed the signing of Uruguay international Sebastian Coates on a long-term contract.
The 20-year-old completed his transfer from Nacional after passing a medical and securing a work permit earlier today.
Coates will now link up with his international teammates ahead of their friendly in Kiev on Friday night.

SOS
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 30 2011, 11:07 PM)
hmm, i'm still pondering that we ought to have one more striker? how do you guys think? or are we good with 4, Kuyt, Ngog, Suarez and Caroll?
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I don't think we're in dire need of one especially if you consider we're only fighting on 3 fronts this season. Also, we have the likes of Adam Morgan and Michael Ngoo waiting in the wings. Would be nice for them to have some exposure. Ngoo looks to be a more athletic version of Andy Carroll.

QUOTE(xMika @ Aug 31 2011, 03:52 AM)
wonder why I liked Poulsen .. is he really that lousy ?
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Added on August 31, 2011, 8:38 amI love that King Kenny is back at the helm since crying out for his return almost 2 seasons ago but I really am concerned over the issue of one Raul Meireles. Seems we're doing all we can to flog him off.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8738...ul-meireles-bid?

Fine maybe our wage bill does have to be trimmed but Meireles was key to us last season especially when Stevie was out. I think Meireles has an abundance of talent and it's no wonder Chelsea are willing to part with 8$ million plus Benayoun for him. He did after all score our winner last season at the bridge. I know Jonno is with me on this, we spoke about Meireles last season and both of us thought he was a top class player even when Hodgson decided he was better suited as a right winger. It'll be sad to see Mr. "Cool as f**k" go sigh...

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Here's an insane video.


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Wonder if the players could really wear that war stripe a.k.a. belang tarung

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I think Poulsen is just not a right player to our club. to say him totally useless was not right..
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Liverpool have confirmed the signing of Uruguay international Sebastian Coates on a long-term contract.

The 20-year-old completed his transfer from Nacional after passing a medical and securing a work permit earlier today.

Coates will now link up with his international teammates ahead of their friendly in Kiev on Friday night.
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QUOTE(skyz @ Aug 31 2011, 07:54 AM)
http://www.footballpress.net/?action=read&idsel=91316
do we need another backup striker? zarate, is he good? hmm
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considering poulsen is the captain of the danish national team, and agger has to be under him...means hes not that bad...just not suited for the english game tongue.gif
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ngog is confirm going right? then we need one more striker. zarate is good if we can get him. same player like suarez.. imagine both of them can cut in together and pass short passes.. drool.gif
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I am excited to have player of the tournament and young player of the tournament in our team =)

welcome Sebastian Coates !! YNWA
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 30 2011, 10:58 PM)
We did have good times under GH. When was the last time we won 5 cups in a single season? Problem was we became very one dimensional and predictable.


Added on August 30, 2011, 11:01 pmMmm Ashley Young isn't a conventional winger though is he? I mean his stronger foot is his right one but he plays on the left, much like our Joe Cole.
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thats probably cos he was forced out to the left at Villa due to downing playing on the right side more often tongue.gif
guess after time hes gotten used to that left side...tho both of them were inter-changeable at Villa...

but i'm liking KD's new attack minded side again...after woy broke LFC with his defensive tactics...
since we got coates now, guess we're not getting gary cahill who thinks hes a forward tongue.gif
now lets see how many goals coates can score for us...i just hope tho that he can adapt to the pace fast enough and not give away too many defensive fouls.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 31 2011, 11:46 AM)
thats probably cos he was forced out to the left at Villa due to downing playing on the right side more often tongue.gif
guess after time hes gotten used to that left side...tho both of them were inter-changeable at Villa...

but i'm liking KD's new attack minded side again...after woy broke LFC with his defensive tactics...
since we got coates now, guess we're not getting gary cahill who thinks hes a forward tongue.gif
now lets see how many goals coates can score for us...i just hope tho that he can adapt to the pace fast enough and not give away too many defensive fouls.
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I am not that worry considering he trained with Suarez and Forlan in national team and now we can see battle against him and andy in training ground =) hopefully he can be our new sami !
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I am not that worry considering he trained with Suarez and Forlan in national team and now we can see battle against him and andy in training ground =) hopefully he can be our new sami !
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 31 2011, 12:02 PM)
and we all know how well forlan did in the premier league...
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well, veron anyone? tongue.gif
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Forlan and Veron was good with their respective Country and fail when with BPL

Lets hope Coates will bring the shine back to our defence and Skrtel can play Right Back now
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Coates using no 16
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very very looking forward for next match!
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guys, do you think Kenny Dalgisg will sign up one more player before the transfer window closed today ? i think he will sign one more player XD haha
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Aug 31 2011, 02:59 PM)
guys, do you think Kenny Dalgisg will sign up one more player before the transfer window closed today ? i think he will sign one more player XD haha
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any idea who? tongue.gif

i'll be surprised if he sign any after Coates, the squad looks kinda complete. More like we are gonna be a major sellers this time around smile.gif

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very very looking forward for next match!
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err...when is that & any telecast by asstro?
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10 Sept, 15:00(UK) - Stoke City v Liverpool
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Aug 31 2011, 03:38 PM)
any idea who? tongue.gif

i'll be surprised if he sign any after Coates, the squad looks kinda complete. More like we are gonna be a major sellers this time around smile.gif
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QUOTE(LukeMjstc @ Aug 31 2011, 04:03 PM)
We're still chasing for A Johnson... The last piece of the jigsaw... A good team needs 2 natural wingers...
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Rumours stated that Ngog might be heading to Bolton and we need another striker.
Bellamy is nowhere be seen right now .
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 03:46 PM)
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do we?i mean even ngog doesn't really get much action nowadays with Suarez/Carroll on bench
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instead of benny, we should ask for essien in trade for merieles.
doesnt matter if hes still injured, just take first tongue.gif
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Sebastián Coates es de Liverpool biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 31 2011, 04:25 PM)
instead of benny, we should ask for essien in trade for merieles.
doesnt matter if hes still injured, just take first tongue.gif
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IF we could get Adam Johnson. Then our squad is definitely good enough to knock scums out of their perch this season.
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Is Adam Johnson is unwanted at Man City?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 31 2011, 05:52 PM)
Is Adam Johnson is unwanted at Man City?
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He's not a regular starter..
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Aug 31 2011, 06:10 PM)
He's not a regular starter..
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Here's to a discussion about the idea of Benayoun (aka King Benny) and to a lesser extent; Maxi Rodriquez and Joe Cole, which we'll continue with the idea of wingers.

We all knew that Benny left for a 'greener pasture' where not only he was paid more but he could actually play. Unfortunately for him, after his move he never played past 1 minute bar that "exhibition match" where the entire Chelsea team was trying so hard to make or in a way, help Torres score in that match.

The one thing that buggered me was that how Maxi would be used. It was without doubt that Maxi was brought in as a replacement, albeit that I had the hunch that Benny and Maxi would have been playing down both flanks to cover our ex-targetman Torres. However, having a team built around one individual can have negative consequences, unless you have another striker that can notch up and take advantage of "the unknown probability" where opponents still have no idea how to mark the formation and players and how that striker would fit in for the particular game.

So back to our discussion, I don't see Benny coming back, but how about Maxi? Would he go out? How about Joe Cole then?

One thing that I am quite sure of, (if I am wrong my apologies) is that Joe Cole is one hell of a trick-pony but isn't the type of winger-forward that at the moment fits in to our line up that is heavily favoured around Carroll (though it beats me how Caroll isn't fit into the system yet, when our boss in theory got it right how to play our forward man [I still remember his articles for The Guardian's Kenny's chalkboards session] where he figured out how Andy Caroll could be played against opposition and apparently somebody listened, resulting in Newcastle having 3 a goal fest against us]). But despite that I'll say Maxi under-achieved of what he potentially he could. But I will offer him credits for his determination and that 'one-final-push' mentality, and besides he's turning into an impact sub which I think he also sees it that way, and doesn't sulk. (Though you can see his frustrations when he can't get his effort past the goal post)

And for that reason alone I believe our gaffer would keep him over Joe Cole. I believe that all these 3 players are in the same mould, and they won't fit if we insit on building a team around Caroll.
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Latest from Soccernet:

James Dall:
12.30 - Indeed, the French club have confirmed the signing of the Liverpool midfielder (Joe Cole) on a season-long loan.
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Do we still have to pay for his salary?

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Confirm: Joe Cole to Lille.. hopefully part of Hazard deal..huhuhu

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...lille-loan-deal


Added on August 31, 2011, 7:38 pmNope..Lille will pay if not mistaken

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Guys the deadline is coming soon. Do u think we are going to pull off a surprise singing?
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Liverpool announced today it had finalised a deal with Lille OSC for the loan transfer of Joe Cole.
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SkyGraemeBailey Graeme Bailey
Lille confirm the signing of Joe Cole from Liverpool on loan for the season. They will be paying a third of his wages. #lfc

erm... bad business by liverpoolfc? why are we still paying 2/3 when the player isnt with us...
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SkyGraemeBailey Graeme Bailey
Lille confirm the signing of Joe Cole from Liverpool on loan for the season. They will be paying a third of his wages. #lfc

erm... bad business by liverpoolfc? why are we still paying 2/3 when the player isnt with us...
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I think that means 1/3 if not mistaken. Pliz correct me if wrong...
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Yes this is what it means.
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James Dall: It's Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina's birthday today. Yep, that's how slow things have got. Fear not, though, as we are working hard to bring you something juicy.

lol...happy bday pepe...we love u notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Not sure true or nope.. goal.com + twitter

LFC Transfer Speculations
BREAKING NEWS: Craig Bellamy heads to Liverpool for medical ahead of sensational deadline day move...GOAL SO LETS WAIT FOR A BETTER SOURCE.

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1 awesome23      daryl khoo        94  225
2 CHAMPIONS19    Suzy Miss_A       100 216
3 Underdog Team  MohdZekry Zakaria 97  215

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http://www.footybunker.com/liverpool-make-...ty-winger/10918

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Liverpool are preparing a last ditch £15m offer for Manchester City winger Adam Johnson in a deal that is likely to be accepted by Roberto Mancini.

Whilst Mancini would very much like to keep hold of Johnson he is aware that the England international is after first team football and with the likes of Silva and now Samir Nasri able to play his preferred positions the 24 year old is keen on a move.

Although Liverpool have already invested heavily this summer they believe one more winger could prove fruitful especially with Johnson able to play both right and left. Although Kuyt is primarily used on the right the Anfield club are prepared to push the Dutchman further forward to make room for Johnson.


he is so good...20million for him is more than worth...
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any link to see the transfers update here? preferable with some journalist online and having Q&A sessions =)
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 31 2011, 09:37 PM)
any link to see the transfers update here? preferable with some journalist online and having Q&A sessions =)
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only got this..

http://www.goal.com/en/live-update/375/goa...adline-day-live
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QUOTE(leaF @ Aug 31 2011, 09:37 PM)
any link to see the transfers update here? preferable with some journalist online and having Q&A sessions =)
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/live/_/id/950...d-moves?cc=4716
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thanks mate , really hope we get someone to fill the no 10 jersey.We have Voronin and Joe Cole vacated the number , I am hoping we will get someone as good as A.Johnson


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Comment From Solari
Reports in Israel are saying that Yossi Benayoun is Liverpool-bound.

from http://soccernet.espn.go.com/live/_/id/950...d-moves?cc=4716

duno true or not
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Done Deal: French club Evian have confirmed the signing of Denmark midfielder Christian Poulsen from Liverpool

http://www.skysports.com/football/transfer...0,14896,00.html
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QUOTE(cyclonez @ Aug 31 2011, 10:32 PM)
Comment From Solari 
Reports in Israel are saying that Yossi Benayoun is Liverpool-bound.

from http://soccernet.espn.go.com/live/_/id/950...d-moves?cc=4716

duno true or not
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Didn't Benny slated Rafa and Liverpool after he went to Chelsea? Not sure if he has a grudge against Liverpool or just Rafa because we all know Rafa's man management skill is poor.

Benny's style of football will def suit the pass n' move philosophy in the current Liverpool team and as i recalled, he did quite well as a squad player during his tenure in Liverpool. I will welcome him with open arms.

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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...als-french-move
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Bye joe cole and poulsen...
next meireles? i dun mind cash+sturridge deal...
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Was hoping for Joe Cole + Cash in exchange for Eden Hazard for the final piece of puzzle. Guess I was hoping too much tongue.gif
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we lost zarate since he agreed loan to atletico madrid..
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RUMOUR:
Edinson #Cavani is the first (big) player to leave #Napoli this summer, to pay for their 10 #signings. His destination...

Liverpool FC Gossip
2/2 #LFC, have reportedly bid £24m for the Uruguayan, who wouldn't need a work permit due to his Italian roots... #LiverpoolFC #YNWA

Mouth-watering uruguayan strikers partnership if this goes through... thou it is very unlikely... *dream*

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Cavani???? I Like...
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Robin Hackett: BREAKING NEWS Craig Bellamy has apparently been given clearance by the Welsh FA to discuss a move to Liverpool.

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4:24 - Bellamy going back to Anfield is a curious one - he didn't exactly set the world alight last time, in fact his stint there was more notable for whacking Riise with a golf club. No doubt he is still a good player though and maybe Kenny Dalglish reckons he can coax the best from him.
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bye cole and poulsen
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Look Like Bellamy coming
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There has to be some more Liverpool Gossip? Need another wide man, Another Striker (please no to Bellamy), plus lastly some more depth down back.

4:38
Chris Murphy: Haven't you spent enough in this window already?!

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bellamy is coming. zarate and cavani no?
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How about Ngog? No official news yet?
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QUOTE(PPZ @ Aug 31 2011, 11:43 PM)
bellamy is coming. zarate and cavani no?
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rumours said zarate will be going on loan to inter milan
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QUOTE(cyclonez @ Aug 31 2011, 11:46 PM)
rumours said zarate will be going on loan to inter milan
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arghh.. too bad.. i like that guy.. same style like suarez.. anyway, it seems Daniel Sturridge is very hot in the transfer news.. we only get him if we swap with meireles right?
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NOOOOOOO! They sold my favourite player Poulsen!!
No no no!!! I feel lost cry.gif

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Rumours of Sturridge from Chelsea now....Be shocked if we got him & Bellamy...but odds have been slashed on Daniel Sturridge to Liverpool...
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...capture-starlet
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11669_7140710,00.html

Seem like Bellamy rumor are true
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why cant we be linked with a better back-up striker
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why cant we be linked with a better back-up striker
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Rumours bout ngog

5:11
Chris Murphy: Looks as if David Ngog will be off on loan after all with Bolton a likely destination.

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i would take sturridge anytime, he's english player... definitely value for money in future... bellamy is good candidate as well... his sprint would be tough to handle... i will be glad to have either one... to lose meireles.. not sure to be happy or not... sigh
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i like the idea of having adam johnson in our team tongue.gif
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Villyan Bijev deal is done
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QUOTE(cyclonez @ Sep 1 2011, 12:13 AM)
Rumours bout ngog

5:11
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more likely a permanent deal for 4m... hmm.gif
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DONE DEAL: Perhaps not one to set the pulses racing but Liverpool have signed USA under-18 striker Villyan Bijev.

We sign another youngster
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Dan Roan

David Ngog is currently having a medical at Bolton as Liverpool continue to off-load fringe players - deal imminent
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Deadline day news.

Arsenal gets Peter Metsersacker (did I spell it correctly?)

Looks like they got their players right. Tough team to crack.
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James Pearce Liverpool Echo
Craig Bellamy having medical and set to seal LFC return. Ngog switch to Bolton will be confirmed shortly.
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no more interesting news?
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nothing much at the moment bro....
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Interestingly, Raheem Sterling will be playing in the Reserves against Swansea. The thing to note is that Swansea reserves will feature many senior players so its a good thing to gauge Raheem's abilities as a striker and a team player.
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6:02
John Brewin: Ian Dennis of the BBC: "I'm told Yossi Bennayoun is heading for Arsenal."


6:04
Chris Murphy: The Manchester Evening News say Bellamy to Liverpool is moving ever closer. Here's Stu Brennan: "Hearing Bellamy has agreed financial terms for City severance and having medical at Liverpool ahead of free transfer."
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James Pearce Liverpool Echo just stated that Raul Meireles is staying at Liverpool ! wohoo ! XD XD XD
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 1 2011, 12:37 AM)
Deadline day news.

Arsenal gets Peter Metsersacker (did I spell it correctly?)

Looks like they got their players right. Tough team to crack.
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dont worry , according to wiki , coates is taller than him by 1 cm tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Sep 1 2011, 01:08 AM)
James Pearce Liverpool Echo just stated that Raul Meireles is staying at Liverpool ! wohoo ! XD XD XD
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maybe there is surprise in the last minute transfer time? KD please surprise us!!
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Arsenal want Yossi Benayoun
www.dailymail.co.uk

seems like arsenal going after benny
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Sep 1 2011, 12:24 AM)
4:24 - Bellamy going back to Anfield is a curious one - he didn't exactly set the world alight last time, in fact his stint there was more notable for whacking Riise with a golf club. No doubt he is still a good player though and maybe Kenny Dalglish reckons he can coax the best from him.
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I think bellamy is a good reliable back up striker, rafa knew that then (only blip was his 'strange' behaviour with some of LFc team mates), n I think KD knows too.



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Chris Murphy:
Here's an off the wall one. Lee Ryder from the Newcastle Evening Chronicle claims Russian club Anzhi - the new home of Samuel Eto'o - have made a bid of £41m for Andy Carroll. Wow.
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Sep 1 2011, 02:52 AM)
7:50

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Here's an off the wall one. Lee Ryder from the Newcastle Evening Chronicle claims Russian club Anzhi - the new home of Samuel Eto'o - have made a bid of £41m for Andy Carroll. Wow.
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just read bout that too..
if 41m i ok jer,
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even 35m i might just let him go... lol
so meireles stays, bellamy in ngog out... a good transfer window for us...
clear the deadwoods, bellamy definitely > than ngog... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Zarate has signed for Inter till 2015 on loan. We could have landed him if we had strong bid..
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Liverpool have tonight confirmed that David Ngog has completed his transfer to Bolton Wanderers.

The French striker joined the Reds from Paris St Germain in July 2008 and went on to make 94 appearances, scoring 19 goals.

Everyone at Liverpool FC would like to wish David all the best with his future career.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/au...e-craig-bellamy

Joe Cole's loan move to Lille will cost Liverpool more than £3m, after the Premier League club agreed to pay 60% of his wages. They hope the arrangement will give them an advantage should the Belgium midfielder Eden Hazard be made available by Lille next summer.

lille pay 2m while liverpool pay 3m...
champions league football next season and eden hazard will most probably be ours... =) happy days ahead


Added on September 1, 2011, 5:29 amGOSH! Meireles submits transfer request - Liverpool FC

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looks like raul wants to leave. sad. but if he doesnt want to be here, might as well get a good deal. min at least the 11 or was it 13 mil that we paid for him ?
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Another Torres wannabe
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http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...ransfer-request
damn sad wei... the gestures from his last few game said it all.. he is not satisfied to be a sub on the bench.... sigh
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well, more like he wants more money. all the talk about him taking a pay cut to join us, and then after his first season, he wants a raise. if he's unhappy sitting on the bench and occasionally starting, might as well get rid of him. we all know kenny favours henderson anyways n gerrard will be back soon. we still have jonjo. that boy needs playing time as well. he can go sit on the bench next to torres! whistling.gif

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Another Torres wannabe
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cant blame him thou... he's on low wage last season... and was supposed to get improved contract after fantastic debut season...
torres opts to leave "sinking ship" to HIGH level club...
meireles wants to start evry game... more like alonso transfer saga, unfair to compare him with traitorres... hmm.gif


Added on September 1, 2011, 5:48 amnumber 39 craig bellamy!
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...y-signs-for-lfc
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Added on September 1, 2011, 6:11 amDegen has had his contract terminated by mutual consent... lfctv
well done~ we mange to reduce the wage bill even further...

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Why suddenly Raul Meireles want out? I think Liverpool and Chelsea already negotiated about the move earlier than the announcement was made.
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sigh... yea i think so... if the deal didt go through liverpool wont release statement regarding the transfer request... now the question is how much we got for meireles? hmm... meireles is surplus in our squad with adam henderson lucas on the starting line up not forgetting gerrard is on his way back...
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I'm soooo dissappointed.. Do we get Sturridge? sad.gif cry.gif


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Chris Murphy: That mine of information Duncan Castles, says Meireles is costing £10m that could rise to £12m.

from Soccernet Chat.. £10m?? If he goes, we should get that plus Sturridge, or £15m at least.. sad.gif sad.gif

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15m euro... around 13 pound...
btw..i have a thought... let say poulsen scored against them last season, he might now be a chelsea player...lols...
i think we have a big enough squad for now with no european football... meireles might not fetch that much money in future... let see what kenny can do with current squad. most importantly we slashed the wage bill for milan jovanovic, joe cole, poulsen, degen, aquilani, soto, insua etc =)
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Time for Johnjo Shelvey to shine...as Miereles replacement...
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yea..more time for youngster to play... at least during carling cup matches we dun need to please someone like meireles and put him on starting lineup ended up got injury... shelvey is promising and need lot of playing time... i hope he can develop like lucas to be indisposable player... =)

so the doubt cloud is clearer now, the middle finger was meant to our gaffer who didnt start him for the game against sunderland? hmm.gif


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As far as I can tell, #LFC have cut £30m off their wage bill and earned about £25m in transfer fees this summer. Net spend.

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we are doing real business... we are not splashing oil money like tap water... this is the way business should be done notworthy.gif

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Good transfer window, I must say. Most of the ones who left aren't even currently on the bench - so we've definitely not weakened. And the two brought in, Coates and Bellamy can only be good for the team. A bit bummed with losing Meireles though!
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I woke up just now and the news Meireles is now a Chelsea player!!WTH?!!!what happen?!i didnt know he got any issue with us?i thought hes happy at Anfield?we got plenty of midfield now but he still one of our favorite player,we rated him high here,im very very shocked,i'd never see this coming,oh Meireles...thanks for everything,all the best,gonna miss him wearing red,sob..sob sad.gif

on the other hand,welcome back Bellamy!i always like watching him attack,hes our Rooney in my book,cant wait to see him play alongside Suarez happy.gif

oh Meireles~
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reina/doni
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where should meireles be placed? get over it, he is just a surplus... flex.gif
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No player is bigger than the club, we will keep this momentum going and by may next year, lfc will be in the top 4 and by next season we will definately be signing bigger names as we prepare for a return to the champions league. Call me a romantic but I genuinely believe King Kenny and this squad will deliver the goods :-)
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QUOTE(skyz @ Sep 1 2011, 07:55 AM)
reina/doni
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henderson/gerrard lucas/spearing adam/shelvey downing/maxi
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where should meireles be placed? get over it, he is just a surplus...  flex.gif
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Let's be honest. If I'm the opposing team, I won't worry about this midfield at all.

Adam + Lucas pairing is our best bet now but what if one of them gets injured or suspended?

Henderson, Spearing and Shelvey cant be consider established stars yet. Not after a couple of good games?

Age is catching up with Gerrard, and fact of the matter is, we sometimes play better without him.

Downing is performing excellently so far.

but seriously, a bit gutted to lose Meireles to Chelsea...Don't the rent boyz know that they can only have 11 players o the pitch?

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Agree with carloz there,Meireles add somewhat "strong midfield" feels to our team,even if hes on the bench i always thought like "its ok we still hv Meireles to come in",just saying..

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 1 2011, 08:07 AM)
Let's be honest. If I'm the opposing team, I won't worry about this midfield at all.

Adam + Lucas pairing is our best bet now but what if one of them gets injured or suspended?

Henderson, Spearing and Shelvey cant be consider established stars yet. Not after a couple of good games?

Age is catching up with Gerrard, and fact of the matter is, we sometimes play better without him.

Downing is performing excellently so far.

but seriously, a bit gutted to lose Meireles to Chelsea...Don't the rent boyz know that they can only have 11 players o the pitch?
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spearing is gerrard v2.0 material... we cant afford to have established stars sitting on the bench waiting for (touchwood) lucas and adam get injured or suspended...
i think local lad like spearing and youngster like shelvey arent that far off from meireles...
i agree with you our cm look thin after aquilani and meireles being offloaded...
we will definitely buy new players next season when we have more games to play...
by the time aging gerrard will get even fewer games... for now i think should be alright...

king kenny can always try different formations with the players he got...
bellamy and suarez lead the attack would be mouthwatering...
three strikers with carroll as targetman, both bellamy and suarez running freely around him on the pitch... drool.gif
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Last time i woke up, they took Torres. This time i woke up they took Meireles. So next time they wanna take who? N i thought liverpool said they wont sell meireles to rival team 1.
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meireles hand transfer request..
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The Meireles news is shocking.

But a transfer request is a transfer request. And we sold him. We probably could get Sturridge but as usual a transfer request changes the game. Torres got sold. Benny got sold. Now, Meireles?

Chelsea's got 3 ex-Redsmen. Blimey, eff me but them rent boys do really can splash the cash to buy out opposition.
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meireles transfer, yes it's difficult to say on this matter.. but just imagine you are meireles, you are going to be a bench player for liverpool and a bench player for chelsea who will be playing in champions league, obviously you will choose the latter...

it's bad to say this, but i hope meireles will endure a frustating season just like torres and benayoun (now an arsenal player) and realize that money and europe is not everything


Added on September 1, 2011, 8:48 amoh, reunite with andre villas boas? maybe that's also a factor

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 1 2011, 08:38 AM)
The Meireles news is shocking.

But a transfer request is a transfer request. And we sold him. We probably could get Sturridge but as usual a transfer request changes the game. Torres got sold. Benny got sold. Now, Meireles?

Chelsea's got 3 ex-Redsmen. Blimey, eff me but them rent boys do really can splash the cash to buy out opposition.
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I share your absolute outrage and disgust over this whole Meireles transfer saga. How come our big names kept on being poached by rival clubs?

I mean I can understand if we poach star players from mid table clubs such as Sunderland and Everton but NOW we were made to look like mid table clubs by the likes of Chelsea and Real Madrid and Barcelona by the exodus of our star players.

On the contrary, i cant help but to throw up in gallons whenever i hear comments from players like Owen Hargreaves who claimed he will play of the scums for FREE...See how big the difference between us, Chelsea and Manure is when it comes to pulling power.?

Is Liverpool no longer consider one of the European footballing force and the dream club they once were?

Does Chelski's account book ever show a net profit?

Does oil ever run out in Russia? God damn it.
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Just wait laa those clubs,we'll be back in CL next season and we'll see if star players want to play for Liverpool or not,pls i dont want to hate Meireles,i wish him all the best but not when Chelski facing us mind u
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I share your absolute outrage and disgust over this whole Meireles transfer saga. How come our big names kept on being poached by rival clubs?

I mean I can understand if we poach star players from mid table clubs such as Sunderland and Everton but NOW we were made to look like mid table clubs by the likes of Chelsea and Real Madrid and Barcelona by the exodus of our star players.

On the contrary, i cant help but to throw up in gallons whenever i hear comments from players like Owen Hargreaves who claimed he will play of the scums for FREE...See how big the difference between us, Chelsea and Manure is when it comes to pulling power.?

Is Liverpool no longer consider one of the European footballing force and the dream club they once were?

Does Chelski's account book ever show a net profit?

Does oil ever run out in Russia? God damn it.
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get used to it guys...there is very little loyalty left in football...money, pride, ambition...these things are more valuable than loyalty...

wont blame Raul though.....at least until we know the real story....that goal during torres' `big' Chelsea debut will always be priceless...Thanks Raul...perhaps the only good outcome from Roy's tenure

but back to loyalty...get used to it....they'll kiss the badge today and be gone tomorrow...Owen, Mascherano, Alonso, Bellamy (u turn even), Yossi...

As much as i am excited about Suarez...give it another 1-2 years if he continue to sparkle like this....i am not surprised he will engineer a move elsewhere...I hope not, but that's football...so enjoy every players we have now..and give proper credit to the likes of Gerrard, Carragher..who stayed on..
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I was shocked when to hear the news... Suarez+meireles was awesome... Kinda sad to hear this.. Thanks meireles....
Lets us win some trophy and kept suarez...

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I don't like the idea of losing both Mereiles and Aquilani. Like many of you guys said, Shelvey and Spearing have both got a long way to go to establish themselves as a regular. Before the start of the season, almost everyone compliment the depth that we have in the midfield area. But now, it doesn't that deep anymore.. Let's hope Stevie G comes back before either one of Lucas or Adam got injured.

The other option is Henderson, who can also move to a more central position with Kuyt playing on the right.

Anyway, I wish Mereiles the best of luck at Chelsea. Thanks for your service!
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Macca has posted this

We will stay at Anfield and increase the capacity to about 60,000..

We will keep the upper centenary and the kop as they are..

The work will start in about about 18 months and take about 2 years to finish.

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main task this season is to finish top 4 and above chelsea smile.gif
show those who left us (torres & meireles) that we are not mid table team
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Thank you Meireles for everything,

1. You proved that you're a good signing despite almost the entire Kop went ballistic with Roy's choice of 'replacements'.
2. The goal scoring runs and the game changing moments you gave us.
3. Cecil "the FM manager wannabe" Purslow eff-ed you over. You just have to eff-him with your transfer request. But you waited till the end of the season. That way you do have my gratitude.

I wish you all the best of luck, despite the sour aftertaste. Just the best of luck, none at the expense of Liverpool F.C

Oh, by the way, watch out. Agger's elbow might be on the way. Yeah I'll like to see you getting one of it, just to make sure.
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Thank you Meireles for everything,

1. You proved that you're a good signing despite almost the entire Kop went ballistic with Roy's choice of 'replacements'.
2. The goal scoring runs and the game changing moments you gave us.
3. Cecil "the FM manager wannabe" Purslow eff-ed you over. You just have to eff-him with your transfer request. But you waited till the end of the season. That way you do have my gratitude.

I wish you all the best of luck, despite the sour aftertaste. Just the best of luck, none at the expense of Liverpool F.C

Oh, by the way, watch out. Agger's elbow might be on the way. Yeah I'll like to see you getting one of it, just to make sure.
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Mind you, the exodus of star players is a disease. It's viral.

It shows that the club doesn't not have the steely desire or the financial horsepower to hold on to its best players.

Yes, you may say part of the reason is that the player doesn't want to play for the club anymore, but this may have caused by the inability of the club to bring in more star players. Exodus and influx of players has a symbiotic relationship. It's not like every club is cash rish like City or Chelski?..

Just look at Arsenal for case study. Who's next to go? Suarez? we gotta put an end to this disease...
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ngog, joe, poulsen, kyrisg, konchesky, jovanovic, meireless. wages slashed down! 1 star gone sad.gif
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Really hate to say this but I guess Harry Redknapp is the only manager who can hold on to his valuable player. Its amazing how much power a player have nowadays. Arsenal already lost 2 of their best players.
And you wonder how Harry managed to keep hold of Modric and Bale even without champions league football.. You gotta to admire the way the Totteham manager are handling this kind of situations. The fans will still be happy to see their favourite players still playing for them.. For the other teams supporters, just don't print any players name on your newly bought jersey yet..
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we lost meireles for 12m... a piece gud business made by chelsea...

our depth r not gud rite now... no suarez i can feel tat we r only above midtable team
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For 12m, I must admit that we handed Meireles over to Chelsea on a silver platter.

Why can't KD just reject the bid and wait for a couple of months. Just because he handed a transfer request, we have to get rid of him? Bad move bad move!
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 1 2011, 10:17 AM)
For 12m, I must admit that we handed Meireles over to Chelsea on a silver platter.

Why can't KD just reject the bid and wait for a couple of months. Just because he handed a transfer request, we have to get rid of him? Bad move bad move!
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owh..Meireles went to Chelsea...a little bit disappointment, but ive used to be....just wanna wish him good luck and take care....
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WTH, Meireles was sold to Chelsea. Really disappointed that we just sold for 12M. I think he worth more than 16M after what he done last season.

Now our midfield look thin, with only Gerard, Adam and Lucas the only proven player.
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Sep 1 2011, 10:34 AM)
WTH, Meireles was sold to Chelsea. Really disappointed that we just sold for 12M. I think he worth more than 16M after what he done last season.

Now our midfield look thin, with only Gerard, Adam and Lucas the only proven player.
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under dalglish, if i am not mistaken, meireles never played as CM ....
he mostly played in the hole and as wide midfielder
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Keep the faith.. should no problem..
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Sep 1 2011, 08:54 AM)
Guys read this.one of the most brilliant article i've read in many years.well the statistics could be deceiving.But at least we can all take it comfort liverpool is not a spending club afterall. rclxms.gif

and plus the sales of meireles our net transfer is definitely +ve now isn't it?

bac on the meireles deal.i woke up around 5.30 in the morning which was exactly alost the time meireles was said to hand in his trasfer request.

then tak dapat tidur lagi.=.=

can't blame him though.we din treasure him enuf.in terms of no new contract when he is seeing other players signing new deals.No playing times when he himself might feel he is better than hendo and the feeling of not being appreciated is the worse you could get in your job.

'okay!i've done so much for the team last season yet this is how you treated me.FINE!let's see how you cope without me then!top 4??dream on???'this is exaggerating of coz.lol

anyway we got what we paid for for him so juz take it as a loan from chelsea.

i juz thought we could get a replacement for him.really hope we will though in January.Just dun sign Lee Cattermole for 18M then...=.=
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For f*** sake liverpool sold meireles?! Just becoz they wanna build a team to make the best of carroll?? o0o!!!!!
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WTHELL I WOKE UP WITH THAT NEWS I WAS PISSED
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Kinda feel like us being a feeder club for Chelsea for the last 2 years with the sale of
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Who's next?


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why meireles why....? sad.gif

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