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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Liverpool 2 -1 Wolves : LS7 scored again

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post Aug 29 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 29 2011, 04:17 AM)
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nice write up. thank goodness lucas remain defiant to stay in lfc under RH (whom ignore & consistantly would drop LLeiva.

rafa didnt get his choise wrong with lucas, when LLeiva was being groomed into a midfielder he is now, we had a better DM then with mascherano.

it is good that we won at bolton, but i won't be carried away with results like this & have the media labelling us at title contenders. its too early. I'll say get back to europe (CL) first. league title, bonus if we can but honestly we dont have a squad with proper depth for a title challenge. it will show when its after mid season/christmas/new year. look at arsenal last season, chasing the title toward the late but imploded when the toil got around when the choise first team players grew heavy.

I rather let both the manchester clubs hog the limelight & their fans drooling in their pants. I'lll be more happy we are ahead of the red devils at the league standings at the end of this season. thats my wish.

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QUOTE(Luminous2 @ Aug 29 2011, 04:10 PM)
Kinda know how they feel right now. This happened to us last season. Lucky to get draws, players banned and injured, bad start. Hope AW can do something about it and its fans stay strong and have faith!  doh.gif If DC was there to spanar one of Arsenal player (Let's say it's Arshavin) <---- lagi a huge blow to them  ohmy.gif
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arshavin ? err no..thanks

not sure why DC is there. i'm sure he wasnt there for MU players but maybe to see first hand of the MU players (so much has been said by the press of the fergie's new youth legionaires) hmm.gif

I don't think after the 2 episode by arsenals 2 arch rivals (us & MU), they would be audacious to even think selling more. Their fans will kill them. they obviously need reinforcement after their (very important) 2 key players left.




offer them poulsen & joe cole? arsenal are in desperate/trying times BUT not stupid. shakehead.gif

hope they (gunners) recover quickly. I'm sure they'lll take heart we were also in trying times last season being so close to bottom clubs /relegation zone, only to pick up to a higher finish

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post Aug 29 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 29 2011, 04:43 PM)
If he ever puts on a liverpool shirt,i will shoot myself.

To say it in drogba's style, it's a disgrace,it's a fking disgrace biggrin.gif
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(rooney) he's a devil, (once a blue evertonian)

in his blood, a dislike of all things liverpool fc. yawn.gif





i think demamkuning meant it as a joke tongue.gif

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post Sep 1 2011, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Sep 1 2011, 12:24 AM)
4:24 - Bellamy going back to Anfield is a curious one - he didn't exactly set the world alight last time, in fact his stint there was more notable for whacking Riise with a golf club. No doubt he is still a good player though and maybe Kenny Dalglish reckons he can coax the best from him.
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I think bellamy is a good reliable back up striker, rafa knew that then (only blip was his 'strange' behaviour with some of LFc team mates), n I think KD knows too.



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post Sep 2 2011, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Sep 1 2011, 11:52 AM)
Kinda feel like us being a feeder club for Chelsea for the last 2 years with the sale of
1. Benanyoun
2. Torres
3. Mereiles

Who's next?
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we all gave slack when torres handed the transfer request, yet had little went to deride the other 2 !

Some even gave credit to RH for bringing Meireles (btw RH didn't even know why n where is meireles position!- go figure)

meireles only did really shine after RH left, in which meant he 'could' be 'less' versitile as we thought of him (just).

I do wish he (meireles) didn't hand it in but I guess he knows he ain't that 'young n having to play bit part in probably his best years, he is doing it for 'footballing' reasons. I wish him well.

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The thing about gerrard is that he's super versitile, n LFc/England coaches/manager knows that, in the tosh between lampard n gerrard, cappelo know lampard limitation n chooses to sacrifice gerrards versitility to accommodated him.

The thing about being "super versitile" is the vanurability to hone your best position, in which may cause gerrards game not going to a higher level.

As to the ex reds who now don Chelsea colours. I wish all of them well (they may struggle early season as I don't think they (rest of chelsea players) had enough time to gel to new managers vision, except maybe meireles, who did play VB before

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post Sep 5 2011, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 5 2011, 12:11 PM)
Never be afraid to stand by your opinion mate. People often remember what's most recent and honestly, how many have followed Hamann's Liverpool career from start to finish? Unless someone can justify why they disagree with you, it's an empty argument. In my opinion, yes, Hamann's reading of the game, ensuring he's in the right place at the right time to cut out attacks trumps Masherano's all action approach to defending. Don't get me wrong, I love them both. In fact I've never stopped being fan of Mascherano and have always only had good things to say about him even when he left for Barca when I defended his decision to the end. However, I preferred Didi's calm, calculated approach to the game over Masch's volatile temperament and over exuberance.


both have excellent reading of the games for behind. pace wasnt hamann's forte esp when we had succession of games. i remember in GH era, where against the likes of traditional english mid-lower clubs using long balls we were often caught out of position. in those games, their swift counter attacks almost made hamann non existent. I use to curse "oh no, not again" when under GH we have not been known to be a club which scores a handful of goals.

in this respect sissoko covered more ground defensively (except sissoko's ball control / reading of the game was not in hamann's class). Masherano was almost as good as hamann's reading but had better energy/pace in entire game.
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post Sep 5 2011, 01:37 PM

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i think in brazil its "what defense?" tongue.gif (putting it mildly) whistling.gif

the beautiful football game is always attack, attack!!

hense the AM in lucas role is to support their attacking forwards cool2.gif


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post Sep 6 2011, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Sep 6 2011, 07:03 PM)
I get what you mean about Bellamy, but Kuyt isn't a killer.
We don't have young, speedy finishers like Welbeck at the moment.
I believe Alonso was one of Liverpool's best passers of the past decade. I really miss his playing. I remember one guy won about 60,000 pounds or something after he bet that Alonso would score twice from behind the halfway mark in the season.
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if given an opportuntiy to start regularly, i trust even aqualani can home in one behind the line.
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post Sep 7 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(leaF @ Sep 7 2011, 04:38 PM)
and he was the only player who wave to the supporter when in bus where the others are too tired ..  biggrin.gif
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Energizer kuyt. full of it thumbup.gif


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post Sep 9 2011, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 9 2011, 02:51 PM)
Browsing through threads and I'm reminded once again why I was never ever going to be a manc. Not in my nature to gloat and adopt a "we are the greatest and the rest are shite" mentality. Humility and greatness are not mutually exclusive in my books.
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I don't want to go there on the (new) english barcelona label.... rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 11 2011, 12:11 PM

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Great disappointment, this is exactly what I feared about the limitations of Adam, Henderson and it's against stoke where in the past we are famous for dropping points of such teams. (looks like it may continue, given we too shared points against Sunderland).

We had plenty of chances but it's always very scappy, our play was very scappy, maybe it's has something to do with the longer grass surface (mentioned below)

Our game was desperate, and I somehow which we had a bit more 'discipline', introducing caroll wasn't much help, he was easily contained.

This may not be the only frustrating game we will encounter, the season only started, hope the team learns from this.
I don't think KD had wrong tactics, but on other occasions it would unstuck such teams. Bad luck? We had our slf to blame for not converting them. Adam is seen to do a lot, a busy workmanlike player, but that 1 magic touch, that 1 pass; he is not.




QUOTE(leftist @ Sep 11 2011, 12:04 AM)
countless times..but the point is he making mistakes lately..thats obvious to see..do KK need to replaced him in this game??..NO!!..do KK need to replaced him in the near future??YES!!..that's all im saying..hope coates can replace him sooner rather than later
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Carra was 'suckered' in to give that foul. He has 'limitation' being a central defender, he not a gifted central defender but 98/100 times will do the job well, liv'pool was punished for 1 mistake. No other mistake from then on. Maybe being a little taller, carra could have cope with that pennant's overhead pass.

We need to srugged this lost n learn from it


QUOTE(chaukeng @ Sep 11 2011, 12:13 AM)
Liverpool play so many crosses....the pitch must be terrible for the ball to be dragged.
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I think it was mentioned in the game, being a little too long, & given the lacked of 'ball players' in stoke, it could be done to 'slow' the opposing players who like to dribble/fast pacey wingers. "could have be 'intentionally' "

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post Sep 12 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Sep 12 2011, 09:54 PM)
have a look at Kenny's interview,

the media played it to its full end saying he ranted. he didn't rant or raged, he's demeanor as always is one of class, and it's more disappointment than what the media headlines are screaming and trying to make him a villain to the FA which is sad,

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26...7168590,00.html

select KD's interview at the bottom  blush.gif
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the english media usually will spice things up (usually negative) about Liv'pool. They all love the "mind games" talk that AF is famous for. With AW brushed aside, no JM, no rafa to irked the poster chap, mancini it seems is no match to AF in the "physiological" games. so why not shove KD into the arena too (english media puts a spin in too).

KD is no different in his player/manager days.
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post Sep 18 2011, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 18 2011, 07:06 PM)
From his twitter, I reckon Jason Lo is a Chelsea fan. It's hard for him to swallow two consecutive losses against us in last season methink. Hence, the article.
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Yes, Jason is a fan of Chelsea fc.

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post Sep 20 2011, 07:01 PM

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look, all this talk about rafa, while we all (esp me had enormous respect & liking him), he rafa, aint gonna come back as asst manager nor in any capacity should be compared to the current set up. He's gone, things didnt work out, perhaps just perhaps maybe next time in the far far future but we all should look, be patient, look at KD, fenway, comolli & what they are trying to do at liv'pool fc. some we agree, some we might not but at the moment; its done for the interest of liverpool fc's in the long term.

Granted we had 2 very terrible consecutive loss. One we felt had done by, the other simply we were overran. it looked really bad becuase the 0-4 hammering. maybe if the lads had a bit more discipline (i said tht in the aftermath of the lost to stoke), we simply were trying "too hard", we were all over the plays chasing shadows, & no one took it to lead the team. if we had all 11 players on, still we may not have won but i doubt it will be such a hammering. (contary to someone who said even under rafa, we never lost 0-4, but trust me, if we had only 9 or less players on, probably even under rafa, we could be hammered.

so we all feel KD got it all wrong tactically, maybe, we had to deal with bale & we were much incapable utilising skrtel.

The Liv'pool team i suspect had to rid itself of some "expensive" salaried foreign players, we all heard the massive payroll "savings" under comolli "exercise". (of which i believe esp aqualani, meireles were amongst those circled in red by comolli.

We have to forget the 'honeymoon' comeback period under KD to cloud us that we can challedge for the title, fact remains our goal is to return to CL. we got the house in order (financially), the players now need to play to their strength.

on the note, it will be said of the rumour that it might be probably gerrards last season, but as KD did say, Liv wont & hasnt forgotten their contibutions & its only unintelligent ppl to think otherwise.

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post Sep 23 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(melt @ Sep 23 2011, 01:07 PM)
Nope that was a long shot outside the box... a POWERFUL long shot but the scoreline is 3-1  hmm.gif
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i dont watch newcastle games back then & i suppose i dont know of carrol's game movements within newcastle. if he is more at home playing off another main stirker (in newcastle), then its no surprice to see him struggling at liverpool. (sigh)

i guess KD/comolli sees that he cant develope since he is 22. I do hope andy gets on & learn a lot. he isnt & no where near world class, yet i dont fancy him being a classy player but i hope he proves me wrong with the typical bullish english temperment. (that i think its doable, but it boils down to his own believes of his own talent)
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a simple win, chalk up confidence & team gameplay. Less talk of any high scoring (is inmeterial).
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post Oct 1 2011, 09:20 PM

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Carroooolll yes!!


And I was about to kick the sofa, LFc wasn't pressing much as I would like despite a man up

kuyt was unselfish! Still a little untidy in our game, everton even with a man down plays as if it's 11vs 11

we got to cut supply to everton strikers

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post Oct 1 2011, 09:41 PM

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Clean sheet pls
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Oct 1 2011, 10:44 PM)
3 point..rest 2 week.. next game vs Man Utd
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we need more understanding, good tht we have d break. as someone mentioned, KD's LFc is for the future, I guess he keeps playing the core team (despite the mental anguish to some of us), he believes in his players.

Time for the players to up the ante when we play MU

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